I thought some donks ran the Willie Horton ad first?! Like in the primaries maybe?

So does Willie Horton.

Dukakis is black? Since when?

Huh? Dukakis was hard to figure out 20yrs ago. Still the same.

Since Dukakis is complaining.....
now I guess I will vote for Obama.

re: #3 HelloDare

Dukakis is black? Since when?

Dukakis is a douche bag....

Where's that picture of a baby crying.....?

Remember Lovitz playing Dukakis on SNL? Other than Reagan whooping his ass, that was my fondest memory of the 88 campaign. Comedy gold.

Michael Dukakis is still alive?

Typical democrat- he's still not showing the military the respect it's due.

Mikey- give the tank photo-op some props, man.

The entertainment to politik quotient rises again.

re: #1 pingjockey

I thought some donks ran the Willie Horton ad first?! Like in the primaries maybe?

It was Al Gore who brought up the spectre of Willie Horton.

The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate at the Felt Forum sponsored by the New York Daily News, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even mention Horton's name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.

re: #8 sbvft contributor

....sorry - Bush

re: #7 BigPapa

Right here.

Oh yes, I forgot. Factual ads = racism. My mistake.

Hey Mike! Go climb back in that tank. That picture was a dumb as Kerry in the bunny suit climbing out of the shuttle!

Michael who?

Who?
Oh, right... Michael Dukakis...
Isn't that a name on a Trivial Pursuit card?

re: #12 vbspurs
Thanks. I knew someone else had alluded to it before GHWB.

re: #8 sbvft contributor
Thank you for reminding me about this. The Dems just keep serving up the losers, don't they?

re: #14 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Thanks Wolf! Love it.

IIRC, Algore was the one who first introduced the topic of Willie Horton, before the National Security PAC put out the tv ad. For you young whippersnappers, you can see it here.

re: #16 pingjockey

Hey Mike! Go climb back in under that tank. That picture was a dumb as Kerry in the bunny suit climbing out of the shuttle!

Heh heh heh.......

Yeah, we all know GWB was a big Greek-O-phobe.

And I got news for the ex-Governor.

If there is anyone playing the race card here, its Obama. . .again and again accusing his adversaries of racism via his subordinates.

One would be led to believe that Obama's deck has about 15 race cards in it.

Race-based.. wha? hunh?

Maybe their internal polls are not looking good if there's this concerted effort to push the race card. Gotta have their proverbial ducks in a row if they go down to defeat in six weeks.

Funny, but I thought this had something to do with it.

Bernard Shaw: "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis [his wife] were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?"

Dukakis: replied coolly, "No, I don't, and I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life..."

Dukakis? Is that the guy who played in Hogan's Heroes? I have a vague recollection of him with a helmet on.

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

Who hears a Horton?

Dr Suess reference: two points.

And, in other news today, Dan Quayle snickers, raises a shot glass full of whiskey in a toast to Sarah Palin, downs it, and chases it home with a beer. I know that's what *I* would be doing if I was Mr. Quayle. Ah what the hell...I think I just talked myself into it....cheers!

*out*

re: #8 sbvft contributor

Remember Lovitz playing Dukakis on SNL? Other than Reagan whooping his ass, that was my fondest memory of the 88 campaign. Comedy gold.

Um, it was the elder Bush who threw a beating on Dukakis.

re: #9 JammieWearingFool

Michael Dukakis is still alive?

yes, and hollering for a week end pass for willie horton.

First, Dukakis said, the McCain ad is based on a lie. Raines isn't one of Obama's closest economic advisors, he said. Other members from Fannie Mae have advised Obama but the McCain camp chose to focus the ad specifically on Raines, an African American.

"Why did they pick that person from Fannie Mae?" he asked rhetorically.

Well, Tanky D- it's because the msm reported that Raines was advising 0bama.

But there are other from Fannie advising 0bama? You realize that's not much better, don't you?

re: #19 PoorMan

Who?
Oh, right... Michael Dukakis...
Isn't that a name on a Trivial Pursuit card?

You know - Lloyd Bentsen's running mate. Decidedly the lesser half of that ticket.

re: #32 JammieWearingFool

yeah - i corrected myself (see comment 13). as soon as i hit post - i knew it. DOH!

This probably had something to do with him losing as well....

re: #25 looking closely

Yeah, we all know GWB was a big Greek-O-phobe.

And I got news for the ex-Governor.

If there is anyone playing the race card here, its Obama. . .again and again accusing his adversaries of racism via his subordinates.

One would be led to believe that Obama's deck has about 15 race cards in it.

That cheap-shot polital hack Obama thinks the same kind of mafia-style, get-your-dirty-work-done-by-others style will work the same in the national spotlight as it did in Chicago, where people areway too worried about getting shot to research the politicians. And he's wrong.

Michael Dukakis. Who knows, if he were elected he may have eclipsed Jimmy Carter.

The ad don't have McCain's seal of approval, therefore nobody can hang the race card on him.

And he wouldn't have approved it in the first place.

Sorry, I'm only hearing the words black and race in my LEFT EAR! Maybe I'm missing something.

re: #37 loppyd

This probably had something to do with him losing as well....

That was devastating!

re: #37 loppyd

This probably had something to do with him losing as well....

And Obama is so much scarier than Dukakis.

re: #42 little boomer

That was devastating!

SNOOPY!

re: #35 Pullus Iulius

Which is strikingly similar to the current contest and Democrats' ticket - where Biden has more time in office than Obama (though I'd be careful to call it experience, or to equate experience with knowledge).

Ok Everyone -

The Black Man who ultimately brought down Gov. Dukakis was NOT willie Horton - His name is BERNARD SHAW.

-S-

re: #27 neocon hippie

Maybe their internal polls are not looking good if there's this concerted effort to push the race card. Gotta have their proverbial ducks in a row if they go down to defeat in six weeks.

The line is already set and has been for months.

If Obama loses in November, its because of racism on behalf of the American electorate.

re: #28 loppyd

Funny, but I thought this had something to do with it.

Bernard Shaw: "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis [his wife] were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?"

Dukakis: replied coolly, "No, I don't, and I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life..."

That was what put him down politically. Would that Obama has such a moment at the debates.

re: #37 loppyd

This probably had something to do with him losing as well....

He had to be the goofiest candidate ever...ridiculous

So does this mean Biden is going to say to Palin something like, "You, madam, are no Michael Dukakis."

re: #42 little boomer

That was devastating!

RIP Lee Atwater.

This election is too important for niceties. Break their kneecaps.

Whatever it takes. Obama/Biden must be defeated. Oh, and by the way, the other side feels the same way. Now we know.

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

That was what put him down politically. Would that Obama has such a moment at the debates.

Maybe he'll call McCain a typical white person?

re: #36 sbvft contributor

yeah - i corrected myself (see comment 13). as soon as i hit post - i knew it. DOH!

No problem. Maybe we need a 30 second window where we can self delete. Lord knows I've had enough comments I wanted to fix as soon as I hit post.

re: #47 looking closely

The line is already set and has been for months.

If Obama loses in November, its because of racism on behalf of the American electorate.

I guess that will REALLY tick Michelle off eh?

dudakis should shut his gob.
why does he want to draw attention to the murdering rapist willie horton who he coddled and so stupidly allowed out of prison.
another reminder of the dangerous dems.

So now showing two black men and a white woman in a commercial is racist? Someone better alert all the ad agencies.

re: #49 Wishing

He had to be the goofiest candidate ever...ridiculous

How soon we forget...

The Dems should start a museum. They can call it the Carter Instititue of Pathetic Sobbing Crybaby Losers.

Dukakis? Somebody dug up Dukakis for a quote?

LMMFAO

-WFH

The left are just like... "how dare McCain run ads that make the Messiah look bad. McCain was supposed to roll over and die for the messiah. It's exhausting yelling "lies lies lies". At some point we might have to answer something. "

re: #58 vbspurs

How soon we forget...

I sit corrected.....Thank you.

Gosh, the article said it was a third party ad. But it was a McCain campaign ad, no doubt.

The real problem is there is no racial anything in that ad. The acts of someone who did a bad job in government are blind to color.

What a two-faced lie! Is this how the rest of the election is going to be, nothing but lie after lie? How many dems will actually WATCH that ad?

The Willie Horton ad wasn't racist, btw.

UK firm strikes Obama presidential coin.

re: #57 Sharmuta

So now showing two black men and a white woman in a commercial is racist? Someone better alert all the ad agencies.

And saying, "typical white woman" is not racist at all. Dem's the rules..

Dukakis couldn't name one accomplishment of Obama on Hannity & The Dolt
So he has to revert to the race card.

re: #37 loppyd

This probably had something to do with him losing as well....

Before he got into that tank, he should have learned a lesson from Calvin Coolidge.

re: #1 pingjockey

I thought some donks ran the Willie Horton ad first?! Like in the primaries maybe?

That's my recollection.

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

That was what put him down politically. Would that Obama has such a moment at the debates.

The question would never be asked. Instead, "President Obama, sorry I mean Senator Obama, how is it that you are such an attractive candidate with all the qualities of hope and change we've been looking for?"

-- quick the barf bag!

re: #53 loppyd

Maybe he'll call McCain a typical white person?

He's not that stupid. Even he knows that McCain is not typical. Heroism of the kind he has shown is so noticeable because it is rare.

re: #69 MandyManners

That's my recollection.

Al Gore, I believe.

Dukakis compares everything to Willie Horton. There wouldn't be Willie Horton ads if he hadn't let a convicted murder out of prison on a weekend pass. Which reminds me...the Democrats have nominated some real winners for president, haven't they?

The McCain camp said they're gonna bring up The Good Reverend pretty soon..... I..... CAN...... NOT...... WAIT. There's at least 10 commercials worth of material. G*D D*MN AMERICA.

re: #28 loppyd

Funny, but I thought this had something to do with it.

Bernard Shaw: "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis [his wife] were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?"

Dukakis: replied coolly, "No, I don't, and I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life..."

Bernie Shaw! - now there's a blast from the past. Edward R. Murrow he weren't.

re: #62 Wishing

I sit corrected.....Thank you.

Hehe.

What makes you laugh more? The effeminate little wave, the effete bike shorts, the girlie multi-coloured helmet and matching shirt, or the quite ridiculous local pandering to the Milwaukee Panthers?

God, what a disaster.

re: #45 lawhawk

Though one difference is that I know people who voted for Dukakis because they liked and respected Bentsen. Except maybe for immediate family, I don't think that applies with Biden.

re: #66 cliffster

And saying, "typical white woman" is not racist at all. Dem's the rules..

Yeah- because only typical white people are racists.

BBIAM

I have faith obambi will melt during the debates. No teleprompter, no grasp of specifics of any idea/policy he has vaugely addressed/ no stage presence, he's gonna look like a school kid on stage.

re: #65 HelloDare

UK firm strikes Obama presidential coin.

Brummies are well known in Britain for not being the sharpest knives in the drawer. Please forgive them.

Dukakis bumped his head a couple times too many while getting into the tank. He did let Willie Horton out for a bit of a walk-about before Willie found himself back in jail. Dukakis failed as an administrator by not accepting responsibility for his actions. All Dukakis would have had to have done was to have said " Yes, I did it. Willie Horton did what he did as well and now finds himself back in jail."

Speaking of race hustling, Rev. Al was on Hannity and Colmes a few minutes ago, looking very thin. Is he sick or did he just call Jenny?

re: #37 loppyd

This probably had something to do with him losing as well....

Obama already made a better commercial.

Watching PBS trying to explain Reagan, as they would explain a Martian.

Olivia sprung the Willie Horton ad.

Didn't that goober say he would not kill to defend his wife, Kitty, from a rapist?

re: #84 doppelganglander

Speaking of race hustling, Rev. Al was on Hannity and Colmes a few minutes ago, looking very thin. Is he sick or did he just call Jenny?

He's lost his audience. It's got to be very depressing to the hustler.

re: #70 CommonCents

The question would never be asked. Instead, "President Obama, sorry I mean Senator Obama, how is it that you are such an attractive candidate with all the qualities of hope and change we've been looking for?"

-- quick the barf bag!

That what they'd like to ask. It's up to us to make sure they need to ask something else. The Jawa story was a good start but more is needed. The press must be forced to ask Obama questions that cannot be answered with a platitude.

re: #72 Archimedes

Al Gore, I believe.

Didn't anyone call Dukie on his claim?

re: #87 jorline

Olivia sprung the Willie Horton ad.

Olympia? ;)

re: #57 Sharmuta

So now showing two black men and a white woman in a commercial is racist? Someone better alert all the ad agencies.

i'm still trying to figure that one out.

re: #76 vbspurs

Hehe.

What makes you laugh more? The effeminate little wave, the effete bike shorts, the girlie multi-coloured helmet and matching shirt, or the quite ridiculous local pandering to the Milwaukee Panthers?

God, what a disaster.

the goofy grin and little girly wave...case closed

re: #74 sbvft contributor

The McCain camp said they're gonna bring up The Good Reverend pretty soon..... I..... CAN...... NOT...... WAIT. There's at least 10 commercials worth of material. G*D D*MN AMERICA.

I'm still waiting for the Rezko exposee. That should be played from today until the election. The reverend bit has already been beaten to death when it first broke. Rezko hasn't been touched (outside of prison).

re: #85 HelloDare

Obama already made a better commercial.

You racist!

re: #82 vbspurs

Love your avatar. Quite fetching.

re: #83 Perplexed

Dukakis bumped his head a couple times too many while getting into the tank. He did let Willie Horton out for a bit of a walk-about before Willie found himself back in jail. Dukakis failed as an administrator by not accepting responsibility for his actions. All Dukakis would have had to have done was to have said " Yes, I did it. Willie Horton did what he did as well and now finds himself back in jail."

Willie Horton was an evil POS, who went on a murderous rampage after he was let out of jail. Dukakis should be feeling guilty for aid an abetting in the crime. That's the real issue.

re: #95 Wishing

the goofy grin and little girly wave...case closed

I swear Al-Qaeda would've weed themselves laughing if he had become President. Same with Obama, another metrosexual wussy.

re: #93 vbspurs

Olympia? ;)

LMAO...see the whole family made an impression on me.

vbspur...from San Antonio? Love the new avatar also.

re: #97 Sharmuta

You racist!

That was his mother's side of the family speaking.

re: #85 HelloDare

Obama already made a better commercial.

We cannot let that man become Commander in Chief.

Hey, where I come from, Willie Horton's a hero.

re: #96 CommonCents

I'm still waiting for the Rezko exposee. That should be played from today until the election. The reverend bit has already been beaten to death when it first broke. Rezko hasn't been touched (outside of prison).

I got your Rezko right here

re: #98 HelloDare

Love your avatar. Quite fetching.

Wow, I'm very humbled at the amount of compliments on the avatar. Shame I'll have to find a new one on Nov. 5th. ;)

Well, I wish you all good night! Bye, HelloDare, guys!

Personally, i think it would be a mistake to bring Wright up again..the anti-American stuff is already burned in our brains...MCCain has plenty of material, no need to backtrack...

re: #91 buzzsawmonkey

There was supposed to be a "Gnaw gnaw gnaw" in there.

GNAW GNAW GNAW - LOL.

.......ITZ IN THA BYE-BULL.

re: #99 Archimedes

Willie Horton was an evil POS, who went on a murderous rampage after he was let out of jail. Dukakis should be feeling guilty for aid an abetting in the crime. That's the real issue.

aid an abetting = aiding and abetting

typing not so good.

re: #101 jorline

LMAO...see the whole family made an impression on me.

vbspur...from San Antonio? Love the new avatar also.

Alas, no. I don't know anything about b-ball. I'm British and Spurs are my childhood soccer club. :)

re: #106 vbspurs

You should keep the avatar, like a trophy on the wall.

re: #88 MandyManners

Didn't that goober say he would not kill to defend his wife, Kitty, from a rapist?

she should have d-i-v-o-r-c-e-d him.

re: #107 Wishing

Personally, i think it would be a mistake to bring Wright up again..the anti-American stuff is already burned in our brains...MCCain has plenty of material, no need to backtrack...

It's a long campaign, there will be a rinse and repeat cycle.

re: #100 vbspurs

Awesome avatar!

re: #65 HelloDare

UK firm strikes Obama presidential coin.

"H-D" -

If the "Boys in Birmingham" are really smart - they would get a John + Sarah coin pattern ready to go.

-s-

re: #89 Archimedes

He's lost his audience. It's got to be very depressing to the hustler.

He did seem kind of subdued, like his heart wasn't really in it. Maybe he needs a good arson/riot to cheer him up.

er.... hero.

re: #104 Arkay

Hey, where I come from, Willie Horton's a hero.

That's what cost Dukakis the election. The baseball vote.

re: #112 nyc redneck

she should have d-i-v-o-r-c-e-d him.

I would've.

re: #114 MandyManners

Awesome avatar!

Scary.

Biden steps in it. Again.

Biden on Obama’s e-mail ad: “I thought that was terrible”

Video included. Via Hot Air.

re: #110 vbspurs

Alas, no. I don't know anything about b-ball. I'm British and Spurs are my childhood soccer club. :)

Is there any such thing as "spurs" in England?

re: #96 CommonCents

I'm still waiting for the Rezko exposee. That should be played from today until the election. The reverend bit has already been beaten to death when it first broke. Rezko hasn't been touched (outside of prison).

And Ayers! Just some guy in the neighborhood my left toe!

HLF Prosecutor: Think Like a Terrorist Organization

Jurors looked alert and attentive as prosecutors started reading. But by the time they got to Count 32 - a lengthy list of financial transactions - several members of the jury appeared to be restless and fidgety.

/Yawning jury could portend hung jury?

re: #105 Thanos

I got your Rezko right here

Many thanks. That's a start but like you say, "there's much more that could be said".

OT

I recently heard that in four key media markets, political ads are being run an average of over 190 times per day.

Including my own. It's practically all we are getting her right now.

re: #119 MandyManners

I would've.

you and me both.

People still care about what Dukakis has to say?!

re: #128 wiffersnapper

People still care about what Dukakis has to say?!

"still"?

re: #127 nyc redneck

If I were his wife, I'd have divorced him, after doing the Lorena Bobbit thing.

Then sued his bitch ass.

Here's another great ad for McCain that Obama did. Please ding it up so other's will see it. It's in the spinoff links.

re: #123 Dianna

And Ayers! Just some guy in the neighborhood my left toe!

O'Reilly was doing a bit on Ayers on The Factor tonight. I missed it but at least someone is talking about it.

that stupid lib let a killer out of jail who killed and raped a woman.
that fool facilitated murder. that's a lib for you.

re: #125 CommonCents

Many thanks. That's a start but like you say, "there's much more that could be said".

Yep, there's lots of material there, including mr "Oil for Food" Auchi.

Isn't Dukakis what babies do in their diapers? Or when you are potty-training a toddler?

c'mon, Bawakie, dukakis! Your li'l tum-tum will feel aw-better when you dukakis in your poo-poo-pot! That's it, unnghh. Good boy, you are so good at dukakis! We will put on your brand new, clean red pants with Uncle Che on them as soon as we wipe all the dukakis off your widdle bottom! No, your Fidel pants are in the wash because you had a widdle accident in them yesterday at your playdate with William & Tony over at Jerry's church."

re: #127 nyc redneck

you and me both.

After I'd spoken to him very firmly, in a calm voice, telling him why this is unacceptable.

Wow. Michael Dukakis. Now that guy had some ears.

Oops! Was that racist?
/

re: #130 WhiteRasta

If I were his wife, I'd have divorced him, after doing the Lorena Bobbit thing.

Then sued his bitch ass.

AAaahhhAahadddggkkd.. Lorena Bobbit. That's not cool!

McCain could run a very simple ad.

Entitled character.

You know people by the company they keep.

Then run through the rogues gallery of thugs, terrorists, and racists Obama has chosen to associate with.

Tony Rezko.
Jeremiah Wright.
Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

Do you really want someone who associates with terrorists, racists, and criminals to be President?

re: #107 Wishing

Personally, i think it would be a mistake to bring Wright up again..the anti-American stuff is already burned in our brains...MCCain has plenty of material, no need to backtrack...

you do realize that something like 25 percent of the electorate has probably never heard of Rev Wright. its burned into the minds of junkies like us who live on this stuff day and night, but many many people don't even pay attention until debate time. for those people there needs to be some Wright reminders during crunch time.

also Rezko and Ayers.

re: #137 kynna

Wow. Michael Dukakis. Now that guy had some ears.

Oops! Was that racist?
/

Nope, you're good. He's white. Fair game.

re: #133 nyc redneck

The criminal is the victim and the victim is the criminal.

Liberal/socialist idiot-think.

re: #65 HelloDare

UK firm strikes Obama presidential coin.

File that one beside the "19-0 Perfect Season" trademark.

re: #121 loppyd

Biden steps in it. Again.

Biden on Obama’s e-mail ad: “I thought that was terrible”

Video included. Via Hot Air.

skip to 4:18 to avoid the fluff

re: #132 CommonCents

O'Reilly was doing a bit on Ayers on The Factor tonight. I missed it but at least someone is talking about it.

It'll all start coming back up again in late October, just you wait and see.

re: #131 HelloDare

Here's another great ad for McCain that Obama did. Please ding it up so other's will see it. It's in the spinoff links.

Where in the spinoffs?

Former Gov. Michael Dukakis said Monday that John McCain’s presidential campaign is using the same race-based tactics that were used against him in his 1988 presidential run. ...

/excuse me, wasn't he the white guy in the tank?

re: #106 vbspurs

Wow, I'm very humbled at the amount of compliments on the avatar. Shame I'll have to find a new one on Nov. 5th. ;)

You need to put lipstick on it.

re: #140 alien_mind

um, is there a 12 step program?

re: #133 nyc redneck

that stupid lib let a killer out of jail who killed and raped a woman.
that fool facilitated murder. that's a lib for you.

And then try to deflect from that real crime by claiming it's racist to point this out. Never, ever cave into leftists. If you stick to your guns, and you're in the right, you will prevail. Sadly, most republicans don't do that.

re: #146 Sharmuta

Where in the spinoffs?

So is Obama lying then or now?

Yup, you want to have America thinking of Dukakis and Obama as a unit if you're McCain.
Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/ Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Du kakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Ob ama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Duka kis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obama/Dukakis/Obam a/

If we show black people in ads, that's racists, but if we don't show black people in ads, then we're not being sensitive to diversity.

You can't win with these people.

I don't think the Rev. Wrong, er, Wright issue has been brought to the attention of most Americans. We Lizardoids are very much aware of it, but the average voter has nothing like the knowledge we have thanks to Charles and all of you. I think the McCain campaign would make a grave mistake not to make a wide audience aware of Rev. Wright and his hatred of America, and to connect the dots to Obama's 20 years listening to this evil man's spewing of racist garbage.

re: #136 Dianna

After I'd spoken to him very firmly, in a calm voice, telling him why this is unacceptable.

He would've come home to find his clothes scattered on the front lawn. But, first, I would've sliced his ties into itsy-bitsy pieces.

Reines happens to be black.

The dems are setting race relations back 50 years with this crap.

re: #151 HelloDare

It's not at the top of this thread.

re: #105 Thanos

Jonah G. was on Glenn Beck tonight, and Jonah made an excellent point -- which was that Obama (through his associations -- whether it's with Rev Wright, Acorn, Ayers, Rezko, etc, etc., which illustrates Obama's total lack of judgment) Obama cannot say, "No." Obama cannot say, "No," whenever it comes to favoring cronies, "friends", relatives -- Obama caves; or Obama cannot say, "No," Obama doesn't have the necessary discipline -- and he can't say "No" to them or to corruption. McCain, on the other hand, is visibly dismayed by corruption...

re: #153 Sharmuta

If we show black people in ads, that's racists, but if we don't show black people in ads, then we're not being sensitive to diversity.

You can't win with these people.

THESE PEOPLE?!?!?!?!?

re: #153 Sharmuta

If we show black people in ads, that's racists, but if we don't show black people in ads, then we're not being sensitive to diversity.

You can't win with these people.

"these people"? Who are you, Ross Perot? ;)

re: #156 FrogMarch

Reines happens to be black.

The dems are setting race relations back 50 years with this crap.

And gender relations back 75 years with the Palin tactics.

re: #58 vbspurs

How soon we forget...

I just wet my pants a little.

re: #157 Sharmuta

It's not at the top of this thread.

It is if you set it for 25 links. About 17 down.

re: #159 TheMatrix31

THESE PEOPLE?!?!?!?!?

I'm a smurf, so I can say that.

re: #153 Sharmuta

If we show black people in ads, that's racists, but if we don't show black people in ads, then we're not being sensitive to diversity.

You can't win with these people.

That's the point. They set the standard, but never tell you what the standard is. When you ask for clear guidelines to avoid offending them, they scornfully say that you're rigid and un-nuanced. There level of sophistication has become as bad as certain esoteric styles of mysticism.

re: #136 Dianna

After I'd spoken to him very firmly, in a calm voice, telling him why this is unacceptable.

i can see why you would want to do that for yourself but i doubt that such a misguided lib would get the gist of your valid complaint.
what kind of sob would not protect his wife and family from a RABID PREDATOR?
a coward hiding behind a phony sense of moral righteousness.

re: #163 HelloDare

OH! You put it in the link viewer. I never look in there.

re: #149 Wishing

um, is there a 12 step program?

i don't know, i think i'm still in denial that there is even a problem.

re: #155 MandyManners

He would've come home to find his clothes scattered on the front lawn. But, first, I would've sliced his ties into itsy-bitsy pieces.

I am a believer in verbal flensing. No man I've taken apart has ever done more than crawl away, and pray I never have cause to speak to him again.

re: #147 Killian Bundy

/excuse me, wasn't he the white guy in the tank?

Or was he the white guy in the bunny suit?

Or are we talking about Al Franken?

/I'm confused now

re: #164 Sharmuta

I'm a smurf, so I can say that.

You're small and blue, and wear a funny hat? Pic, plz

re: #169 alien_mind

i don't know, i think i'm still in denial that there is even a problem.

Yeh, we will have to sit in the back of the room and pray they dont call on us lol

re: #140 alien_mind

you do realize that something like 25 percent of the electorate has probably never heard of Rev Wright. its burned into the minds of junkies like us who live on this stuff day and night, but many many people don't even pay attention until debate time. for those people there needs to be some Wright reminders during crunch time.

also Rezko and Ayers.

Very good point. Of course we've seen it all a million times, but the average American maybe saw it once or twice. When it finally hit the MSM, it was like a 3-day story and then the MSM buried it. Americans have a short memory - which is a good - and bad - thing. If the ad is done right and run enough, it could be devastating - worth maybe 4-5 points. The election could hinge on Wright. They better not drop the ball on this.

re: #168 Sharmuta

OH! You put it in the link viewer. I never look in there.

I never use the link viewer. It's in the regular Top Rated Links. I didn't post it.

re: #77 Pullus Iulius

Though one difference is that I know people who voted for Dukakis because they liked and respected Bentsen. Except maybe for immediate family, I don't think that applies with Biden.

Yeah, until he was attached to Obama the nutroots were after Biden's blood too, just like they were Lieberman's. He is part of the NWO afterall.

Another link to Lyndon Larouche? Wtf.

OT

Obsession - Radical Islam's War Against the West was put in our local newspaper (Grand Rapids MI) last Sunday. The local news just did a piece interviewing any muslim they could find in the local area to get their personal feelings and pushed a bunch of those discrediting lines. i.e. "It's not clear where the Clarion Group gets their funds." and "We're not sure who all is involved in the group". Like it is some sort of shadowy organization.

I'll be back in a bit after I draft my response to Channel 17 WXMI Grand Rapids and the Grand Rapids Press.

re: #165 Dianna

That's the point. They set the standard, but never tell you what the standard is. When you ask for clear guidelines to avoid offending them, they scornfully say that you're rigid and un-nuanced. There level of sophistication has become as bad as certain esoteric styles of mysticism.

they don't have to define it anymore. they simply say they know it when they see it. the racism that is.

re: #172 cliffster

You're small and blue, and wear a funny hat? Pic, plz

Click my avatar.

re: #161 Sharmuta

And gender relations back 75 years with the Palin tactics.

no kidding.

re: #177 Thanos

Thanos, I do apologize. I had no idea.

re: #180 Sharmuta

Click my avatar.

Lol --- what a pretty blue girl.

Wow, am I really at LGF? ., or did I land in Oz? A person doesn't get to stop by and visit for a few days and someone moves things around and even changes the color of things. Is it freshly painted or can I click and not smear anything? Wouldn't want to mess up Charles's new look. What is this......... new colors for fall?
By the way ....Charles....love the new colors.

re: #171 Killian Bundy

Or are we talking about Al Franken

ha!

re: #173 Wishing

Yeh, we will have to sit in the back of the room and pray they dont call on us lol

or hope they don't spring one of those interventions on us either!

re: #171 Killian Bundy

Or was he the white guy in the bunny suit?

With ears.

Hey Obama . . . let's see your medical records.

/down to a pack a day yet?

re: #170 Dianna

I am a believer in verbal flensing. No man I've taken apart has ever done more than crawl away, and pray I never have cause to speak to him again.

There are times when words fail me.

re: #180 Sharmuta

Click my avatar.

Ahh, duh. Sorry, Smurfette!

So you are Gwen Stefani?

re: #186 alien_mind

or hope they don't spring one of those interventions on us either!

I'll just say that it is all your fault. And then whine. VOE (Victims of Everything)

re: #179 alien_mind

they don't have to define it anymore. they simply say they know it when they see it. the racism that is.

The problem is that - since they will not define it - there is no standard. So you end up with that astonishing, disgusting poster some leftist did of Michelle Obama as an "uppity woman" being whipped. He thought it was criticizing Republicans; I was just flabbergasted that he'd have portrayed Michelle Obama as the eroticized victim of white men. That was just disgusting, and he couldn't see it, because his intentions were otherwise.

re: #187 Kreuzueber Halbmond

With ears.

He needs a cotton tail.

re: #112 nyc redneck

she should have d-i-v-o-r-c-e-d him.

Too busy drinking the Lysol from the spray can.

re: #187 Kreuzueber Halbmond

With ears.

He doesn't look like the other presidents on our money. So that's why he wasn't elected!

OT: Democrat Senate is Responsible for Financial Meltdown

Greenspan's Warning

The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn't be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie ``continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'' he said. ``We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.''

What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

But the bill didn't become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn't even get the Senate to vote on the matter.

But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.

Audacious, no?

re: #190 cliffster

Ahh, duh. Sorry, Smurfette!

So you are Gwen Stefani?

Actually- Gwen really pissed me off with her stunt in Indonesia, but due to all the politics of misogyny running rampant, I found this song fitting so I'm cutting her just a little slack. I, however, would never name my kid Zuma.

re: #180 Sharmuta

Click my avatar.

Your witty style, plus the outlook you seem to have from your posts, plus your profile, make me want to ask you a philosophical question, but I'll save it for some later-night open thread time.

re: #195 Archimedes

He doesn't look like the other presidents on our money. So that's why he wasn't elected!

You're right! Lurch on money -- never... gonna... happen.

Hey! making fun of white doods is fun and easy - and free of racist incriminations. weeeee.

re: #107 Wishing

Personally, i think it would be a mistake to bring Wright up again..the anti-American stuff is already burned in our brains...MCCain has plenty of material, no need to backtrack...

The anti-American stuff is burned into our brains, but the fact that Obama lied and spun and backtracked over Wright before finally disassociating himself from his Church of over 20 years hasn't.

That can be pointed out in a short ad, clearly dating the statements made by Obama about Wright, and the statements made by Wright, as well as how it was affecting him in the polls. Wright was able to spew his racist, antisemitic, anti-American garbage for 20 years and well into the Presidential race up until it started hurting Obama politically.

Throwing in Wright's quote about knowing that Obama would have to 'distance' himself from him for political reasons couldn't hurt either. Just because Hannity, and Rush and O'Reilly harped on it, as well as Conservative blogs doesn't mean the truth reached undecided and Centrist Dems, because MSNBC, CNN et al spun the whole fiasco as a Obama being an examplar of post-racial politics with his overtly racist speech and affiliations over the course of his entire adult life.

The fact that Wright made anti-American statements is burned into everyone's minds, but the truth of his relationship to Barack Obama, and just who Barack Obama is, has not.

bedtime for Bonzo.

'night Lizard Nation....

re: #196 kevinmumaw

The McCain camp NEEDS to hammer this message home -- NOW...and stress the urgency

Charles:

Please delete my link above. I had no idea I was shilling for a Nazi.

No offense intended towards anyone.

Here's another look down memory lane: NBC reports on Biden's departure from the '88 race. Those were the days when NBC believed in good journalism.

Bummer posted this on a previous thread:

LOL!
[Link: i261.photobucket.com...]

the libs are up to no good w/ this these racial implications.
hollering like stuck pigs to divert attention from the fact that we don't like these candidates simply because they are bad choices.
race is immaterial. look at dudkakis. the guy is a white lib who facilitated murder.
obama is the most liberal left wing commie candidate to ever run for potus.
a bad choice, no matter his color.
we must ignore the race card that they are desperately trying to play.
i don't care abt. race. most americans don't.
see how devious the dems are. unstable, out of touch losers.
we must focus on the issues.
because they can not.

re: #203 WhiteRasta

Charles:

Please delete my link above. I had no idea I was shilling for a Nazi.

No offense intended towards anyone.

It's OK; mistakes happen.

re: #201 loppyd

bedtime for Bonzo.

'night Lizard Nation....

Sweet dreams!

re: #196 kevinmumaw

Democrats will be democrats.

But Republicans caved time and time again, on every issue that's important, on the coattails of a clear electoral mandate. They are complete wusses and I hate them.

re: #165 Dianna

That's the point. They set the standard, but never tell you what the standard is. When you ask for clear guidelines to avoid offending them, they scornfully say that you're rigid and un-nuanced. There level of sophistication has become as bad as certain esoteric styles of mysticism.

If it weren't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.

re: #196 kevinmumaw

Audacious, no?

audacious, yes.

And the dems in congress have the audacity to say they want "oversight" oover the bail-out. That's socialist code for - they want to skim more off the top.

re: #202 J.S.

The McCain camp NEEDS to hammer this message home -- NOW...and stress the urgency

Agreed. This has Democrat fingerprints all over it. the fact that they are not running for cover is an indication of how 1) clueless; 2) arrogant; 3) truly clueless; or 4) all of the above; they truly are.

re: #47 looking closely

Arianna Huffenpuff was on Larry King while I was riding the exercise bike. She's selling that line like it's going out of style: If Obambi loses, it's because Americans are racists, dahlink.

RE:#151 HelloDare
So is Obama lying then or now?

[Link: obamawtf.blogspot.com...]
And the hits just keep on comin...

To be fair, Michael Dukakis didn't say he wouldn't kill to protect his wife.

Here's a rundown of that moment from the second debate with HW Bush:

CNN's Bernard Shaw opened the debate with this question to Gov. Dukakis: "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?" Dukakis responded, "No, I don't, Bernard. And I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life. I don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent, and I think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. We've done so in my own state." Dukakis went on to talk about the drop in Massachusetts' crime rate and segued into the need for international cooperation in the war against drugs.
The question was meant to give Dukakis an opportunity to show -- and the voters an opportunity to see -- the emotional side of a candidate dubbed by many as the "Ice Man." Shaw had said that the voters had a difficult time getting a "feeling fix" on Dukakis, and felt that only a very personal question could elicit an emotional response. (In fact, he feared that he might be criticized for asking a too-easy question.) But Dukakis' response did just the opposite. Dukakis' passionless response was the news out of the debate.

It is from CNN, but the quote is verbatim. It's actually a pretty good response on his part. That the law he favors is the law he's prepared to live by. But he was so completely without charisma and so arrogant it just came out like he didn't like his wife.

I wasn't going to vote for him either way. But I didn't fault him for this answer, even though I disagree with him on the premise.

re: #188 Killian Bundy

Hey Obama . . . let's see your medical records.

/down to a pack a day yet?

Poor bastard. If I was to start a run for the presidency I would only increase my intake. Probably start sniffing glue as well.

just sayin'

beetle baily!

Dukakis tanked.

Because he was weak and a deceiver.

Obama is more cautious with appearances.

Because he is even weaker and more deceptive.

The debates will expose him.

re: #207 Dianna

CRAP! I can't believe I did that.

D'oh! The name did not even ring a bell with me.

re: #202 J.S.

BTW, McCain voted FOR that bill. He should have been all over this last week.

re: #187 Kreuzueber Halbmond

With ears.

Was this moron ever funny? He very well might be the next senator from MN. I just threw up in my mouth a little.

re: #88 MandyManners

Didn't that goober say he would not kill to defend his wife, Kitty, from a rapist?

Goooooooober
ROTFL

re: #193 FrogMarch

re: #195 Archimedes

All Democrat candidates need a funny suit.

re: #200 Scion9

It's important to bring it up again, people are paying more attention now and if nobody brings it up Obama supporters will believe they have successfully "debunked" the story.

re: #216 Truck Monkey

Poor bastard. If I was to start a run for the presidency I would only increase my intake. Probably start sniffing glue as well.

just sayin'

Vote Obama!

/he knows which end of the crack pipe to suck on

re: #220 kevinmumaw

BTW, McCain voted FOR that bill. He should have been all over this last week.

I suspect he's holding that for the upcoming debate.

re:214

[Link: obamawtf.blogspot.com...]

re: #203 WhiteRasta

Charles:

Please delete my link above. I had no idea I was shilling for a Nazi.

No offense intended towards anyone.

I thought La Rouche was more of a commie. He's a strange bird.

Former Gov. Michael Dukakis

Say what else you will, he was wonderful in Moonstruck.

/what?

re: #200 Scion9

Well said...

re: #215 kynna

To be fair, Michael Dukakis didn't say he wouldn't kill to protect his wife.

Here's a rundown of that moment from the second debate with HW Bush:

It is from CNN, but the quote is verbatim. It's actually a pretty good response on his part. That the law he favors is the law he's prepared to live by. But he was so completely without charisma and so arrogant it just came out like he didn't like his wife.

I wasn't going to vote for him either way. But I didn't fault him for this answer, even though I disagree with him on the premise.

Thank you for the clarification!

Miserable Pal in a BMW attempted to murder a group of Israeli soldiers by driving into them...1st bulldozers, now this

re: #223 Kreuzueber Halbmond

re: #195 Archimedes

All Democrat candidates need a funny suit.

Oh yes, that was the time he was "taken care of" in Frankenstein's laboratory. Abbey something's brain was put in him by mistake.

re: #211 FrogMarch

Audacious, no?

audacious, yes.

And the dems in congress have the audacity to say they want "oversight" oover the bail-out. That's socialist code for - they want to skim more off the top.

Exactly right. Harry Reid has already stated that '700 billion is just the beginning'.

They are already eagerly pork-barreling as much as they possibly can into this bail out to destroy our economic system.

re: #233 Archimedes

Oh yes, that was the time he was "taken care of" in Frankenstein's laboratory. Abbey something's brain was put in him by mistake.

Abbey Normal!

First, Dukakis said, the McCain ad is based on a lie. Raines isn't one of Obama's closest economic advisors, he said. Other members from Fannie Mae have advised Obama but the McCain camp chose to focus the ad specifically on Raines, an African American

Could it possibly be the focus is on Raines because he bilked the most money? About $110 million.

re: #217 spidly

beetle baily!

Caption: I don't mind if my wife is raped.

re: #209 cliffster

My wife, quite the looker, is a Democrat, God bless her . She's not voting, because she does not like Obama. However, she believes Obama is a Muslim (I remind you, she is a LIBERAL democrat), and we had an argument tonight about the official language of Denmark. She is convinced it is English, because she saw a Danish Tourism website and it was in English. I insisted it was Danish. She also insisted Montana was much closer to North Carolina than Nevada. We have houses in both states, and her mom just moved from Oregon to Montana. We are trying desperately to remain as far from her as possible. Mom-in-law is a certified moonbat.

Dukakis said it is very difficult to accuse a rival campaign of being racist

I see he's up to the task.

re: #226 Thanos

I suspect he's holding that for the upcoming debate.

In the debate, will there be tele-prompters?

re: #215 kynna

Except for one problem - if a person rapes and murders a woman, he should be put to death. So he might be been bravely sticking to his ideology, but his ideology is stupid.

re: #234 Scion9

Exactly right. Harry Reid has already stated that '700 billion is just the beginning'.

They are already eagerly pork-barreling as much as they possibly can into this bail out to destroy our economic system.

Sorry, but in my opinion, the bill itself is going to destroy our economic system, at least the capitalistic one we know. They couldn't pour on enought pork to do anywhere as much damage as the base bill is going to do itself.

re: #215 kynna

I thought he shoulda said, after making eye contact with Kitty, "Death Penalty?"The only question about the death penalty is whether I would get it for killing him."
But his eyes didn't even move in her direction.

the infamous ‘Willie Horton’ ad

/whatever happened to Willie anyway?

re: #238 kevinmumaw

I'm not exactly the world's whiz at United States geography, but I think I'd do better than that!

re: #154 Ruthless

I don't think the Rev. Wrong, er, Wright issue has been brought to the attention of most Americans. We Lizardoids are very much aware of it, but the average voter has nothing like the knowledge we have thanks to Charles and all of you. I think the McCain campaign would make a grave mistake not to make a wide audience aware of Rev. Wright and his hatred of America, and to connect the dots to Obama's 20 years listening to this evil man's spewing of racist garbage.

That's what the 2nd & 3rd weeks in October are for.
:)

re: #223 Kreuzueber Halbmond

re: #195 Archimedes

All Democrat candidates need a funny suit.

Is it me, or does The Obamessiah look jaundiced. Dude looks the color of the nicotine stains on my fingers.

re: #228 Archimedes

I thought La Rouche was more of a commie. He's a strange bird.

Larouche is a chameleon, right or left don't matter to him, populism and conspiracy theories do. He's expert at pushing fringe group buttons through agitprop at both ends of the spectrum.

re: #236 ciaospirit

Could it possibly be the focus is on Raines because he bilked the most money? About $110 million.

No- clearly it racist. Facts be damned!

re: #228 Archimedes

He is a POS.

I'm sorry I dirtied up Charles' blog linking to this character.

A genuine error made in good faith.

re: #240 Wishing

In the debate, will there be tele-prompters?

Dunno about that, but you can't script too much in a debate forum.

re: #238 kevinmumaw

My wife, quite the looker, is a Democrat, God bless her . She's not voting, because she does not like Obama. However, she believes Obama is a Muslim (I remind you, she is a LIBERAL democrat), and we had an argument tonight about the official language of Denmark. She is convinced it is English, because she saw a Danish Tourism website and it was in English. I insisted it was Danish. She also insisted Montana was much closer to North Carolina than Nevada. We have houses in both states, and her mom just moved from Oregon to Montana. We are trying desperately to remain as far from her as possible. Mom-in-law is a certified moonbat.

She blonde? ;)

Now Obama is promising to cut federal spending! this is the guy who had been promising hundreds of billion in new spending!

Hey Obama, you can't be on every side of every issue!

Video, Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and the Dems the "Family" and "Conscience" of Fannie Mae. Be sure to check out Michelle O clapping proudly for BHO being praised by CEO of Fannie Mae and the CEO kissing up to the Black Caucus. John Gibson at the end is good.

re: #222 sparrowlake

Goooooooober
ROTFL

I'd rather vote for Ernest T. than BHO.

re: #249 Sharmuta

No- clearly it racist. Facts be damned!

This constant racist crap is getting to be very annoying. You play the race card too often, Obama, and people will be immune to your whining

re: #251 Thanos

Well, uh, then good, uh, well...it, uh, could be, how do u say, uh, over early.

re: #88 MandyManners

Didn't that goober say he would not kill to defend his wife, Kitty, from a rapist?

I think you're right. That certainly told America an awful lot about the man. huh?

re: #250 WhiteRasta

He is a POS.

I'm sorry I dirtied up Charles' blog linking to this character.

A genuine error made in good faith.

Like I said above don't feel bad, he suckered me once back in the '80's with his pro nuclear energy stance. That lasted about two weeks until I visited the university library and read more on someone's advice.

re: #253 stevieray
He will cut federal spending the same way billy jeff did...gut the military.

re: #226 Thanos

I suspect he's holding that for the upcoming debate.

It might be too late. BHO and his minions are going whole-hog on blaming the GOP for this mess.

re: #253 stevieray

Now Obama is promising to cut federal spending! this is the guy who had been promising hundreds of billion in new spending!

Hey Obama, you can't be on every side of every issue!

why not?

re: #253 stevieray

I'm not so sure. I think he's up to 11-dimensional pandering, now.