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Open | Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59:00 pm PDT
The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him.
— Robert Benchley
1152 comments
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RTLM Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:06:45pm |
Somali pirates hijack Iranian freighter.
And die from mysterious illnesses. Symptoms include skin burns and loss of hair.
/Arggh
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rawmuse Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:07:17pm |
Good evening Lizards! How much longer do I have to listen to Dems say that all of these money problems are due to deregulation instead of loaning money to the unqualified. It is getting old, and it is insulting to my intelligence.
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HelloDare Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:08:49pm |
re: #1 Sharmuta
0bama quotes! We need more 0bama quotes!
Uh, mmm, ah, ah, mmm, uh...uh... hamina, hamina, hamina...
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pat Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:09:08pm |
Nite all. ....And Biden seems to be something of a simpleton. I wonder if it is genetic? Actually I have wondered that for years. Not kidding. Every time he speaks I end up analyzing him, in silence, like he is a museum piece. The awe of a mental deficient rising to national prominence. An idiot that has no sense of embarrassment.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:10:01pm |
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Intrepid Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:10:28pm |
Hey Sharm - you registered at any of the PUMA sites? They would be a great source (as you said in the previous thread) of soldiers in the web wars.
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Inquisitive Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:11:28pm |
Don't ask why I was looking it up...but I just found out they are suppose to be releasing a film adaption of the book of "The Kool Aid Acid Test" in 2009.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:12:35pm |
From the sidebar:
Unknown score written by Mozart found in France
Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:36pm EDTNANTES, France (Reuters) - A French municipal library has discovered a musical score handwritten by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart in its archives, the Nantes town hall said on Thursday.
The one-page work, donated to the town by a private collector at the end of the 19th century, was until recently thought to be a copy rather than an original.
The unpublished score, measuring 16 cm by 29 cm (6.5 by 11.5 inches), is thought to have been written around 1787, according to an expert musicologist from the Mozarteum university in the composer's native city of Salzburg in Austria.
The score is undergoing a second round of expert investigations, Nantes authorities said.
I'm looking forward to hearing it played in the future. :)
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JustMyView Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:12:59pm |
re: #1 Sharmuta
0bama quotes! We need more 0bama quotes!
How about some George Will quotes instead?
Will must have been seriously pissed off by McCain-Feingold. He never missed an opportunity to mention it and to stick it to McCain in doing so.
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Moe Katz Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:14:31pm |
re: #12 gop_patriot
From the sidebar:
I'm looking forward to hearing it played in the future. :)
Yes, I've not heard any more information about the piece. I'm quite curious.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:14:33pm |
re: #13 JustMyView
No- we want 0bama quotes. Like this one.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:14:56pm |
re: #10 Intrepid
Hey Sharm - you registered at any of the PUMA sites? They would be a great source (as you said in the previous thread) of soldiers in the web wars.
I was thinking of registering at one. You in?
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pat Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:15:24pm |
The most common Obama quote.........................
Uhhhhh.
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HelloDare Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:15:48pm |
Doesn't Biden look like a villain in a Batman movie in this photo?
He's the dreaded Index Finger Man!
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RTLM Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:17:52pm |
re: #19 HelloDare
Doesn't Biden look like a villain in a Batman movie in this photo?
He's the dreaded Index Finger Man!
That Biden pic is WAY pre-massiverepeatedbotoxdoses.
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Syrah Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:19:37pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.
The ravings of a loon.
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pat Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:20:23pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
Yes. And did you notice this guy had to read his lines? Like to remember where he stood? Puppet.
Ayers Puppet.
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Intrepid Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:20:24pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
I was thinking of registering at one. You in?
I'll go in - been thinking to do so. At least at the Hillary Clinton Forum, and maybe at PumaPac.
May not be under the same nic, but I'll show up there.
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merrytexas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:20:36pm |
re: #8 pat
Nite all. ....And Biden seems to be something of a simpleton. I wonder if it is genetic? Actually I have wondered that for years. Not kidding. Every time he speaks I end up analyzing him, in silence, like he is a museum piece. The awe of a mental deficient rising to national prominence. An idiot that has no sense of embarrassment.
Not genetic. Probably result of brain surgeries for aneurysms. Don't know why McCain's camp doesn't make an issue of it. Yes I do. McCain has class. Article at link about surgery in the 80s.
[Link: query.nytimes.com...]
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cliffster Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:22:10pm |
re: #13 JustMyView
How about some George Will quotes instead?
Will must have been seriously pissed off by McCain-Feingold. He never missed an opportunity to mention it and to stick it to McCain in doing so.
Good point. I liked Romney in the spring, but we got McCain. So let's go vote for a hateful, moronic communist that wants to surrender our armies to the UN and surrender our free market to federal policymakers, to make sure that we show McCain who's boss.
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HelloDare Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:22:18pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
I was just going to say that it's not Obama's gaffes that are scary, it's when he speaks clearly and we can really understand him. And then you posted that link.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:23:45pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.
Dammit, youtube just hangs, no matter what I do. I'll save off the link and watch it later.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:23:59pm |
re: #25 Intrepid
I was thinking the Hillary Clinton Forum too. I noticed a poster their by the nic "Conservative Chick"- not sure, but it might be the LGF "Conservative Chick".
I think it's a great idea, and frankly- I think John McCain would want us working with friendly rivals to achieve a common purpose- defeating 0bama!
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:24:02pm |
re: #26 merrytexas
Not genetic. Probably result of brain surgeries for aneurysms. Don't know why McCain's camp doesn't make an issue of it. Yes I do. McCain has class. Article at link about surgery in the 80s.
[Link: query.nytimes.com...]
I think he may have wet brain from years of hard drinking.
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JustMyView Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:24:50pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.
You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:25:01pm |
re: #27 cliffster
Good point. I liked Romney in the spring, but we got McCain. So let's go vote for a hateful, moronic communist that wants to surrender our armies to the UN and surrender our free market to federal policymakers, to make sure that we show McCain who's boss.
LMAO!
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Rancher Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:25:09pm |
re: #5 RTLM
Wonder what crap they were going to field test? From locked containers they get what sounds like radiation burns.
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Syrah Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:26:43pm |
re: #29 cliffster
Dammit, youtube just hangs, no matter what I do. I'll save off the link and watch it later.
I run in to a similar problem. It seems to clear up when I close out Firefox and clear private data.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:27:16pm |
re: #33 JustMyView
I have an idea for you- how about you turn some of that scrutiny on 0bama?
Like all his waffles, do you?
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JustMyView Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:28:56pm |
re: #38 Sharmuta
I have an idea for you- how about you turn some of that scrutiny on 0bama?
Why should I when you are doing such a good job? Somebody has to worry about the other side.
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merrytexas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:29:34pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
It does. There goes US military defense.
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Clubsec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:54pm |
" ... my Muslim faith."
Uh, uhh, uh, umm, uh, as I've said, uh, uh, uh ... (etc, etc.)
Slo-Joe Biden ... you heard if from me before and I attribute the moniker to Hugh Hewitt. America you've been warned. If you liked James Earl Carter and double digit inflation to go along with double digit unemployment, your gonna love ObamUH and Slo-Joe.
Is America really stupid enough to make this a contest? Between NPR and Jay Leno I think I've heard mention of McCain's age 14 times today alone! Give it a rest people. I know a few shooting competitors in their 70's who'll kick your ass on the firing line. Hope I can break 2650 when I'm in my 70's.
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JustMyView Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:31:13pm |
re: #27 cliffster
Good point. I liked Romney in the spring, but we got McCain. So let's go vote for a hateful, moronic communist that wants to surrender our armies to the UN and surrender our free market to federal policymakers, to make sure that we show McCain who's boss.
Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama. As for surrendering armies, see Obama's web site, where he says that he wants to increase the size of the Army and the Marines.
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Intrepid Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:32:29pm |
re: #30 Sharmuta
I was thinking the Hillary Clinton Forum too. I noticed a poster their by the nic "Conservative Chick"- not sure, but it might be the LGF "Conservative Chick".
I think it's a great idea, and frankly- I think John McCain would want us working with friendly rivals to achieve a common purpose- defeating 0bama!
Just tried to find a way in on the Hillary Clinton Forum - registration is disabled.
But PUMAPac may still be open. They've had some great discussions lately on "race" and this election.
I'm learning that there are scads - dozens! - of PUMA sites out there, full of women and men who will not vote for Barack Obama, no matter what!
I go to some of their sites when I need a bit of an emotional "pick-me-up". They're always working to defeat Obama, in one way or another.
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Aussie Stinger Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:33:59pm |
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:47pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.
The comments for that video will scare the sh*t out of any thinking human. Good Lord.
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RTLM Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:35:10pm |
re: #35 Rancher
Wonder what crap they were going to field test? From locked containers they get what sounds like radiation burns.
If all this is true to Roggio's information, the boat was headed for the Suez Canal - into the Mediterranean. For what?
The MV Iran Deyanat set sail from Nanjing, China, at the end of July and, according to its manifest, planned to travel to Rotterdam, where it would unload 42,500 tons of iron ore and "industrial products" purchased by a German client. Its arrival in the Gulf of Aden, Somali officials tell The Long War Journal, was suspiciously early. According to a publicly available status report on the IRISL Web site, the ship reached the Gulf on August 20 and was scheduled to reach the Suez Canal on August 27 - a seven day journey. "Depending on the speed of the ship," Puntland Minister of Ports Ahmed Siad Nur said in a phone interview on Saturday, "it should take between 4 and 5 days to reach Suez."
Seems any uranium on an Iranian ship would be heading toward Iran.
We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:35:52pm |
The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him.— Robert Benchley
Monkey man!
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cliffster Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:36:41pm |
re: #32 Sharmuta
Didn't you have a question for me?
True - Slow overnight thread right? Background (trying to make a long story short) - I have observed, in my family and friends' families around me, little girls who are very outwardly gifted when they are very young, go on to struggle as they got into high school and college. Specifically, being pretty clearly analytical and good at math, then later not being good at/showing interest in math and sciences later on.
It seems to me something programmed into our cultural milieu, or rather that of the human race as a whole, that wants to tell girls they need to go do something else, leave this engineering/science/other-analytical-study thing to the boys.
Now I've got a little girl, she's 2 1/2, and she's unbelievably sharp. I just wonder how to keep that spirit alive, how to make sure she tells the messages sent by society to go to hell. Because there's so much that's out of my hands, and so much that's entrenched in the way we live as a whole that wants to keep her from being all she can be.
Or I should say be all she wants to be, because I want her to do whatever she wants. I just want to make sure that "whatever she wants" remains as open to her as it should.
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OtisMyMan Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:37:52pm |
Historically Black colleges
Affirmative action hiring and scholarships
Minority set asides for government contracts
NAACP
Black Caucus
La Raza
What a Racist Country! No wonder Obama is going to lose.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:38:10pm |
re: #51 cliffster
Anyways, forgive me if I assume to much ;)
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:38:28pm |
re: #33 JustMyView
You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.
Wow -- requiring the Defense Department to operate with cost-efficiency -- downright anti-American.
The difference is that I trust that McCain will ensure that the Defense Department will be capable of fulfilling its various missions to defend the United States, whereas I believe Obama doesn't actually care about that. An Obama presidency would be Bill Clinton's abject failure in Somalia writ large -- and it wouldn't be just a score of Army Rangers that would pay the price.
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merrytexas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:38:58pm |
re: #33 JustMyView
You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.
What McCain did was not to slow or gut the program as Obama is proposing. CBS is repeating the Angry Left's talking points.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:39:03pm |
re: #37 rawmuse
I haven't, but I am sure I'd enjoy it. Think I'll check our local library before buying, to see if they have it.
Thanks! :)
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:39:57pm |
re: #49 RTLM
Seems any uranium on an Iranian ship would be heading toward Iran.
We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Ummmm...
... what would happen if the Suez Canal were the site of an unfortunate radiation leakage event (as in a dirty bomb)?
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Intrepid Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:40:26pm |
re: #39 JustMyView
Why should I when you are doing such a good job? Somebody has to worry about the other side.
Yikes! Your guy flip flops all over the place - from his stance on issues in the Primary to his stance now, which is notably to the middle - and you don't even question it?
Dang, you must really love Barack Obama. Even though he's changed his positions about any number of things. Including:
* The Surge in Iraq - "NO, NO!", but in an interview with Bill O'Reilly, "It was a resounding success".
* Rescinding Bush Tax Cuts - "Maybe we'll have to wait".
* Tax cuts for 95% of population - "Maybe we'll have to wait".
* Undivided Jerusalem - "May have to negotiate with Palistinians".
* Negotiating - no pre-conditions - with Iran - No, we may have to have some.
Your guy is a loser and can't grab his ass with both hands! He takes a position that sounds good to him, but when the "real world" pops up, he has to change his views.
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HD Woman Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:40:27pm |
Good morning nightshift!
Monday is my TV night, and tonight was the first good one in a while.
Watching the newest exciting episode of the Sarah Connor Chronicals, I started to wonder. Has anyone else noticed the parallels between Sic-’em Sarah Connor and our own Sic-’em Sarah Palin?
Courageous, principled Sarah,
Both good looking, hard loving moms.
Both value ALL human life, even those with different agendas.
Both proficient in many types of weaponry.
Both are standing up to an evil that thinks of human life as a blight/parasite on the planet
Both must battle deceptive and elaborate plots to defeat her.
Both have been attacked by established powers as being dangerous and even insane .
Both realize to prevent evil from spreading, you have to fight hard for good,
Never blinking.
I like that.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:40:53pm |
re: #43 JustMyView
Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama.
Agreed, but I'm interested in hearing what you mean exactly by that.
As for surrendering armies, see Obama's web site, where he says that he wants to increase the size of the Army and the Marines.
He also wants to give everyone extra money to pay for high gas prices, give more grants to small business, give everyone money to go to whatever college they want, give everyone the absolute best health care available... get the point?
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ladycatnip Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:41:31pm |
#43 JustMyView
Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama...
How about if your libs take responsibility for their greed and their mismanagement of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac during the Clinton years? The libs were in charge all the way up until now, not the conservatives. And the chickens have come home to roost. True to form, however, they are blaming and pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. But that's to be expected.
'night all...
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Intrepid Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:41:55pm |
re: #45 Sharmuta
Can you access the Lizard Lounge?
Yes ma'am. I'll jump in.....
(dives into the lounge)
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:42:25pm |
re: #43 JustMyView
As for surrendering armies, see Obama's web site, where he says that he wants to increase the size of the Army and the Marines.
He'll need to, if he's going to mount his planned invasion of Pakistan.
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JustMyView Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:17pm |
re: #58 Intrepid
Dang, you must really love Barack Obama. Even though he's changed his positions about any number of things. Including:* The Surge in Iraq - "NO, NO!", but in an interview with Bill O'Reilly, "It was a resounding success".
* Rescinding Bush Tax Cuts - "Maybe we'll have to wait".
* Tax cuts for 95% of population - "Maybe we'll have to wait".
* Undivided Jerusalem - "May have to negotiate with Palistinians".
* Negotiating - no pre-conditions - with Iran - No, we may have to have some.
Your guy is a loser and can't grab his ass with both hands! He takes a position that sounds good to him, but when the "real world" pops up, he has to change his views.
You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?
* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"
That's a start.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:32pm |
re: #47 gop_patriot
The comments for that video will scare the sh*t out of any thinking human. Good Lord.
If you impale a Youtube commenter with a javelin and throw them in a pool, they'll point to Magnetic Stupid. True fact!***
*** not really true or verifiable, but worth doing anyway.
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rawmuse Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:47:19pm |
re: #56 gop_patriot
It is the collected letters of anyone having anything to do with Mozart. His parents, himself. It begins with his parents marveling at their amazing offspring and ends with his mother begging the King of Prussia for enough money to bury him, which she did not get. An amazing collection.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:48:02pm |
re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor
LOL! Sometimes I entertain myself by dinging down YouTube comments. Doesn't accomplish much, but it makes me feel better. X)
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:48:51pm |
re: #51 cliffster
Yes- girls are discouraged to follow through on math and science. Were I to have a daughter, I would get her engineering toys as a starting point. There are many varieties these days. I would get her involved in tools and fixing stuff. I would get her lots of science books. Puzzles, analytical toys and games- things like that.
I would also allow her her femininity. Sewing, cooking- these too require math skills. Let her be a girl, but teach her she can be anything and the boys can't hold her back and not to let the girls hold her back either. The lessons of this election should show us that women's sexism can and does impact other women just as much as the sexism of men.
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merrytexas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:49:02pm |
re: #43 JustMyView
Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama.
What do you expect from a man who did this:
"On the legal front, the Washington Post reported just last week (May 2006) that Goldman Sachs participated in transactions with scandal-ridden Fannie Mae that "that improperly pushed $107 million of Fannie Mae earnings into future years. The aim, [said federal regulators], was always the same: To shape the company's books, not in response to accepted accounting rules but in a way that made it appear that the company had reached earnings targets, thus triggering the maximum possible payout for executives..." Goldman Sachs CEO? Paulson.
[Link: www.mydd.com...]
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:49:21pm |
re: #58 Intrepid
I think Obama is totally unprepared for campaigning in the YouTube era. Before YouTube, it was perfectly feasible to deliver one message to one audience and then deliver the opposite message to another audience, and expect that the two audiences would never compare notes.
But today, if you tell Muslim-American groups one thing and Jewish-American groups another, the two messages can appear side-by-side on blogs of both groups. You can't get away with going to the Knesset and talk about an undivided Jerusalem and then go to Muslim and Arab and pro-Palestinian leftist groups and tell them you weren't serious. You can't say you never supported infanticide and expect that people won't hear the justification you gave when you cast four votes against born-alive infant protections. You can't talk about your wonderful Christian pastor and not expect that his racist, anti-Semitic and anti-American rants won't become universally known.
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RTLM Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:49:42pm |
re: #64 JustMyView
You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?
* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"That's a start.
You equate gradual shifts in position (McCain) - to holding different and opposing views simultaneously (Obama).
What view Obama holds is only dictated by what group he's presently pandering to.
He is a whore.
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Aussie Stinger Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:51:00pm |
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cliffster Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:51:15pm |
re: #64 JustMyView
* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
He admits he was wrong
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
Doesn't even merit response
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
Supply and demand - supply curve moved enough to the right that we need to change the approach.
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"
Said he listened to his constituents and they said he was wrong. How's that for a politician.
Now, have a listen at BO's response when asked to please, pretty please, just admit you were wrong about the surge.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:52:19pm |
re: #64 JustMyView
You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?
* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"That's a start.
Except that in each case, he ended up on the right side of the issue.
And his pick of Palin represents a marvelous investment in the future of America -- her position as VP will launch her toward a presidential run at the end of his Presidency.
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Mr Spiffy Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:53:00pm |
re: #19 HelloDare
Doesn't Biden look like a villain in a Batman movie in this photo?
He's the dreaded Index Finger Man!
the Up-Pointer
Answering the question ,"What's up"? without the chance of a misstatement
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JustMyView Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:53:30pm |
re: #61 ladycatnip
#43 JustMyView
How about if your libs take responsibility for their greed and their mismanagement of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac during the Clinton years? The libs were in charge all the way up until now, not the conservatives. And the chickens have come home to roost. True to form, however, they are blaming and pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. But that's to be expected.
'night all...
GWB has been president for eight years; Republicans controlled Congress for six of those eight years. The heads of the regulatory agencies were appointed by Republicans. Like Obama, McCain has taken lots of money from the financial sector.
The Dems may not have entirely clean hands, but they are hardly alone in that respect.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:55:04pm |
re: #68 Sharmuta
She's got tons of counting toys, puzzles, etc. And she's also all girl - she screams when we won't let her wear a dress. Thanks much for your advice, and here's hoping for the best!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:55:27pm |
re: #67 gop_patriot
LOL! Sometimes I entertain myself by dinging down YouTube comments. Doesn't accomplish much, but it makes me feel better. X)
I would feel better with a "Mark for Termination" instead of just a "ding down". I suppose I just have sick fantasies about being Skynet, instead of the Resistance...
/sends out the T-800s
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Aussie Stinger Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:55:57pm |
John McCain writes an op-ed piece in The Australian newspaper today.
(online version here):
[Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]
Addressing foreign policy, he speaks in regards to the US - Australia alliance, also touches on cooperation with US allies in Asia.
Honestly, .... what does Obama know on any of this stuff.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:56:51pm |
re: #66 rawmuse
I am definitely interested. :) My parents bought me a book of Tolkien's letters one Christmas, and I have enjoyed it immensely.
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JustMyView Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:58:51pm |
re: #51 cliffster
Or I should say be all she wants to be, because I want her to do whatever she wants. I just want to make sure that "whatever she wants" remains as open to her as it should.
There are lots of books on this topic. Might want to take a look at some of these. Also lots of fascinating research on the web. Just google "girls math and science".
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Intrepid Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:59:43pm |
re: #64 JustMyView
You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?
* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"That's a start.
First two - he's stuck to his guns regarding tax cuts, no matter the consequences. Second, he got an endorsement that he subsequently rejected. Yet he did not spent almost 20 years in the man's church.
When will we see Barack Obama come out and unequivocally reject "Black Liberation Theology"? He sat in that church for almost two decades, was married in that church, had his children baptised there and had them sit through most of their lives listening to that indoctrination.
He changed his mind about offshore drilling - GOOD FOR HIM! Not a minus at all.
His immigration stance is what most conservatives fault him for. He's for a form of amnesty that most conservatives don't want, yet he's still for it.
You show me one instance in which Barack Obama has stood against the democrats during his Senate career. One instance. He's been a party man all along. Or he hasn't voted. Much easier to skip out, I guess.
It's a contest between a "Party Man" and a "Maverick". Guess who most of America wants?
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cliffster Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:01:15am |
re: #82 JustMyView
There are lots of books on this topic. Might want to take a look at some of these. Also lots of fascinating research on the web. Just google "girls math and science".
Thanks for your references in spite of differences on, well, lots of other topics :)
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Rancher Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:02:03am |
re: #42 Clubsec
Is America really stupid enough to make this a contest?
Oh yes. I plan to take on alot of debt. Only way to stay ahead of ranaway inflation.
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:02:31am |
re: #77 cliffster
My cousin's little girl is the same way. Wants to wear a dress every day. My cousin has also turned to books that reinforce her view of breaking down gender stereotypes. I'm not sure what they are, but she told me about one where the princess joins a tournament in secret and wins. Kind of like a Mulan thing. I'd look into that as well- books that reinforce that she can be whatever she puts her little mind to!
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JustMyView Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:05:47am |
re: #79 Aussie Stinger
John McCain writes an op-ed piece in The Australian newspaper today.
(online version here):
[Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]Addressing foreign policy, he speaks in regards to the US - Australia alliance, also touches on cooperation with US allies in Asia.
Honestly, .... what does Obama know on any of this stuff.
I suspect he is as able to find a staffer to write an article on this topic as McCain was. You don't think McCain wrote this, do you? If so, you might want to check out this witty little piece about how articles by candidates get written.
I'm not saying McCain doesn't know a lot about the world. I think he does. But this article is not proof of it. He is campaigning full-time and preparing for a nationally televised debate at the end of the week. I doubt he has a lot of time to craft detailed op-eds. As the paper says, Obama has been invited to submit something, and, I suspect such an article will, indeed, appear shortly, also making reference to the topics you mention.
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JustMyView Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:09:33am |
re: #84 cliffster
Thanks for your references in spite of differences on, well, lots of other topics :)
You're very welcome! Best wishes to you and your daughter. Really, I think the key to growing great kids is watching to see what they are good at and helping that along. Aren't we all happiest when we are doing what we do best?
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victor_yugo Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:12:45am |
re: #86 Sharmuta
My cousin's little girl is the same way. Wants to wear a dress every day. My cousin has also turned to books that reinforce her view of breaking down gender stereotypes. I'm not sure what they are, but she told me about one where the princess joins a tournament in secret and wins. Kind of like a Mulan thing. I'd look into that as well- books that reinforce that she can be whatever she puts her little mind to!
Sounds a lot like Free to Be You and Me. I keep that one around for the occasional "remember they're human too" smack.
I also suggest Affirmation.
/blog pimp
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Intrepid Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:13:33am |
re: #88 JustMyView
Yet you attribute every slightly good word coming out of the Obama campaign as being from THE ONE.
You're such a hypocrit, JMV. You haven't answered my post above questioning Obama's changed positions, and you probably won't. Because the only answer is that he has flip flopped in order to move to the center.
He's a fraud, and a sham.
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vbspurs Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:14:20am |
Just a quick post about this fun story:
Young John McCain, when a Middie during a Port of Call in Rio de Janeiro, had a fling with a sexy blonde Brazilian model, seen here 50 years later.
He was Tom Brady, before Tom Brady was cool.
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merrytexas Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:16:05am |
For those who woot, it's a woot-off!
[Link: www.woot.com...]
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cliffster Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:16:48am |
re: #86 Sharmuta
re: #89 JustMyView
Kids are fantastic and scary. You want to teach them but you don't want to make them newer versions of yourself. You want to encourage them but you don't want to push them too hard. You want to make them feel good about themselves but you don't want to be the reason they lack discipline.
And all this goes for your own kids, and to a little lesser degree other kids that you're around a lot.
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Intrepid Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:17:22am |
re: #92 Intrepid
And by this I mean: tell me when Obama has gone against the democrat party in any piece of legislation. Any.
Show me where he has proven himself as one who bucks against his party.
And by "Party", I mean Democrat, the one that has gotten us into this crisis with Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Because honestly, John McCain and the republicans have been trying for years to offer some regulations to stem the tide, yet the democrats have blocked it every time.
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JustMyView Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:18:19am |
re: #93 vbspurs
Just a quick post about this fun story:
Young John McCain, when a Middie during a Port of Call in Rio de Janeiro, had a fling with a sexy blonde Brazilian model, seen here 50 years later.
He was Tom Brady, before Tom Brady was cool.
Charming story! How did you happen across this article?
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Aussie Stinger Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:18:22am |
re: #88 JustMyView
I suspect he is as able to find a staffer to write an article on this topic as McCain was. You don't think McCain wrote this, do you? If so, you might want to check out this witty little piece about how articles by candidates get written.
I'm not saying McCain doesn't know a lot about the world. I think he does. But this article is not proof of it. He is campaigning full-time and preparing for a nationally televised debate at the end of the week. I doubt he has a lot of time to craft detailed op-eds. As the paper says, Obama has been invited to submit something, and, I suspect such an article will, indeed, appear shortly, also making reference to the topics you mention.
__________________________________________________ _______
I hear what u're saying, and it sounds pretty plausible.
(Unless McCain wrote the piece a while ago and had it embargoed till now)
McCain has a long link back to Australia, going back to his dad for starters.
Not to mention policy parallels.
[Link: www.lowyinterpreter.org...]
He surely would have at least given the piece a once over or perusal?
(since he is giving his name to it)
It'd suck to learn that some staffer or floosy writes his stuff for him on a whim like this. People here in Australia wake up in the morning, open this particular national newspaper, and I assume would expect it to be at least a little honest!
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victor_yugo Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:18:26am |
Okay, my system just got an upgrade to some leading-edge (but not bleeding-edge) programs, and I must say the first impression of Firefox 3 is pretty good. Too soon to be "excellent", but definitely something noteworthy.
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:18:26am |
re: #93 vbspurs
Wow- she was quite the stunning lady in her day.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:20:02am |
re: #93 vbspurs
He was a good looking young man, and she was a classic beauty.
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vbspurs Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:20:30am |
re: #97 JustMyView
Charming story! How did you happen across this article?
By merest coincidence, I had just described a Carnival party at the Rio Yacht Club which I attended as a teen. I was searching for info, and up this story popped in Google News!
Did you read the bit where the model had to buy a book of kissing, because he was such a good kisser? That is so TMI, but great!
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:21:51am |
re: #6 rawmuse
Good evening Lizards! How much longer do I have to listen to Dems say that all of these money problems are due to deregulation instead of loaning money to the unqualified. It is getting old, and it is insulting to my intelligence.
untill you have no intelligence left to insult?
/just a swag....... %-)
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Mel Lono Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:22:24am |
That's what are then.
A barrel full of monkeys!.. Loved that game..
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:24:11am |
re: #88 JustMyView
Isn't it a bit more plausible that McCain dictated the rough outline and a staffer wrote it based on Senator MCCain's instructions?
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vbspurs Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:24:26am |
re: #100 Sharmuta
Wow- she was quite the stunning lady in her day.
Very much. In the photos today, you can still see traces of the wowser she must've been.
She kinda reminds me on the girl Tom Jobim and Vinicius de Morais wrote, in Girl from Ipanema (Heloisa Paes Pinto, seen next to her daughter).
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vbspurs Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:25:27am |
re: #101 HD Woman
He was a good looking young man, and she was a classic beauty.
He was very good-looking. Better than either of his sons today, IMHO. Jack looks uncannily like Tom Cruise in Top Gun though (not sure that's good or bad).
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:27:07am |
re: #1 Sharmuta
AHA! I knew I'd seen this recently.
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
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cliffster Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:27:29am |
re: #102 vbspurs
By merest coincidence, I had just described a Carnival party at the Rio Yacht Club which I attended as a teen. I was searching for info, and up this story popped in Google News!
Did you read the bit where the model had to buy a book of kissing, because he was such a good kisser? That is so TMI, but great!
That's what we need around here - a president that knows how to kiss.
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vbspurs Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:29:03am |
re: #109 cliffster
That's what we need around here - a president that knows how to kiss.
LOL! ...how come one never hears of Obama's girlfriends? He wasn't terribly randy, was he? Too much the bookworm.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:29:09am |
re: #107 vbspurs
Yep, he was "Ronald Reagan in his Lifeguard uniform" handsome!
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JustMyView Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:29:37am |
re: #102 vbspurs
Did you read the bit where the model had to buy a book of kissing, because he was such a good kisser? That is so TMI, but great!
Yes, I did see that. Very funny.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:30:00am |
re: #29 cliffster
Dammit, youtube just hangs, no matter what I do. I'll save off the link and watch it later.
doenload the removal tool from adobe and clear your player, then reload with the adobe flash player 10 beta. end of problem, most likely
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cliffster Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:30:15am |
re: #110 vbspurs
LOL! ...how come one never hears of Obama's girlfriends? He wasn't terribly randy, was he? Too much the bookworm.
And before that, smoked too much dope
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:31:05am |
re: #110 vbspurs
I did hear something about an old boyfriend.... but he wasn't bragging about O's kissing.
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vbspurs Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:32:25am |
re: #116 HD Woman
I did hear something about an old boyfriend.... but he wasn't bragging about O's kissing.
Now, now...back to Reagan. HAWT.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:32:40am |
O likes to do it in a car evidently, surprising for one so tall.
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stuiec Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:33:05am |
re: #98 Aussie Stinger
I'd wager that if you sat McCain and Obama down and gave each a test on the articles they'd supposedly written, McCain would score rather higher on what was published in his name than Obama would on what was published in his. And McCain's writers have more material to work with in terms of McCain's past policy statements and proposals.
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JustMyView Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:33:44am |
re: #105 HD Woman
Isn't it a bit more plausible that McCain dictated the rough outline and a staffer wrote it based on Senator MCCain's instructions?
I think either could be true. Presumably, he has "area experts" (i.e., experts in various regions) who would know what to say. And, to Aussie Stinger, I wouldn't presume to say what the details of the internal process are, except that a task like this would go to a staffer/advisor in some way. Whether and in what form it would come back to McCain for approval I couldn't say.
But i want to be clear that, by saying McCain likely did very little of the writing of this piece, I'm not disparaging McCain in this area. I do think he knows a lot about history, the rest of the world, defense alliances and such.
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Price_of_Peace Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:33:59am |
re: #51 cliffster
True -
Now I've got a little girl, she's 2 1/2, and she's unbelievably sharp. I just wonder how to keep that spirit alive, how to make sure she tells the messages sent by society to go to hell. Because there's so much that's out of my hands, and so much that's entrenched in the way we live as a whole that wants to keep her from being all she can be.
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Encourage her interests, protect her from poison minds. My daughter was, fortunately, encouraged to take advanced math and science classes in high school. She continued on to a degree in Applied Science. Girls / women are capable of doing whatever they choose to take on. If the choice involves heavy lifting, they find a way to accomplish it. Same with any other "challenge."
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:34:07am |
re: #117 vbspurs
LRFH Yeah, much better mental picture! :)
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cliffster Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:34:37am |
re: #118 HD Woman
O likes to do it in a car evidently, surprising for one so tall.
Hmm, given this conversational turn, I think it's time for some z's :^)
Catch yall later..
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vbspurs Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:36:08am |
re: #123 cliffster
Hmm, given this conversational turn, I think it's time for some z's :^)
Catch yall later..
Me too...ciao. :)
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:39:55am |
It's a sick and twisted world, and I'm easily amused.
Again my apologies for any offense, I'm not a homophobe, it was just the only thing that fit that catagory of things past.
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Mel Lono Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:40:19am |
Denis Leary on Craig Ferguson tonight.
...don't think Mandy's still up.
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gop_patriot Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:42:04am |
re: #126 HD Woman
I was wondering what you were apologizing for. :) I'm sure everyone knew you were just joking and meant no offense. I did, anyway. Of course, I have an 18 year old son... LOL
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victor_yugo Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:45:32am |
re: #100 Sharmuta
Wow- she was quite the stunning lady in her day.
He had his Brazilian cutie, I had my Russian hottie.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:45:46am |
re: #129 gop_patriot
I don't think it's my imagination that at least 2 people logged off because of my comments. See 123 & 124
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:48:45am |
We have 2 @ 19 yrs and one 22 yrs. They definitely affect your sense of humor.
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Intrepid Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:49:19am |
re: #131 HD Woman
I don't think it's my imagination that at least 2 people logged off because of my comments. See 123 & 124
Nah, it's not because of your comments. Sometimes it happens. If your comments were truly "bad", you'd have gotten some flack for them.
After all, you didn't post anything about a goat or any other animal!
All's well, HD. No fret.
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gop_patriot Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:49:24am |
re: #131 HD Woman
Oh, hmmm... I didn't read them that way, I thought they were just leaving anyway and just used it as an exit. But who knows. :)
/you didn't offend me, at any rate. not after some of the things the guys have said around here. LOLOL
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:52:03am |
re: #130 victor_yugo
He had his Brazilian cutie, I had my Russian hottie.
I'm proud to be an American Babe.
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Alberta Oil Peon Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:52:07am |
re: #5 RTLM
Somali pirates hijack Iranian freighter.
And die from mysterious illnesses. Symptoms include skin burns and loss of hair.
/Arggh
Symptoms of radiation poisoning, eh wot?
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:53:54am |
re: #134 gop_patriot
Super Cool! Usually I just say what I think and damn the consequenses, but I'm fairly new to posting here, soooo ya know
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gop_patriot Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:54:35am |
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:54:39am |
re: #131 HD Woman
I don't think it's my imagination that at least 2 people logged off because of my comments. See 123 & 124
never apologize: it's a sign of weakness, especially here on the LNDT.
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moe katz Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:55:43am |
re: #136 Alberta Oil Peon
Symptoms of radiation poisoning, eh wot?
The more I think about it the less sense I think it makes to bomb Iran's nuke facilities. The only long-term solution is regime change. Go all the way or don't go at all.
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gop_patriot Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:55:43am |
re: #138 HD Woman
I'm way more cautious here than I am in real life.
The idea of getting down-dinged really disturbs me. X)
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 12:56:39am |
re: #135 Sharmuta
I'm proud to be an American Woman, but I can still remember my Babe days! LOL
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:00:19am |
re: #141 moe katz
The more I think about it the less sense I think it makes to bomb Iran's nuke facilities. The only long-term solution is regime change. Go all the way or don't go at all.
late night Stealth strikes to hit all major transport choke points, cutting the nation into discreet, non-connected chunks, followed up by taking out all telecommunication assets, including all replacement transmitters via HARM. cut the government off from the people, and leave only satellite TV as an info source. ... then flood the airwaves.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:01:12am |
re: #142 gop_patriot
That's the way a lot of people are, I went to a VBMO party in KS once and it was amazing seeing the aggressive/passive flip in person, and it went both ways.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:01:16am |
re: #136 Alberta Oil Peon
Symptoms of radiation poisoning, eh wot?
sounds like it..... or maybe blister agent leakage.
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moe katz Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:02:27am |
re: #145 redc1c4
late night Stealth strikes to hit all major transport choke points, cutting the nation into discreet, non-connected chunks, followed up by taking out all telecommunication assets, including all replacement transmitters via HARM. cut the government off from the people, and leave only satellite TV as an info source. ... then flood the airwaves.
Sounds good to me, though I'm not a military expert.... I think they have contingency plans to target the Republican Guards (no relation to the GOP so far as I know)
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moe katz Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:03:07am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:05:42am |
So, laid down at 6PM (EST). Just needed a quick catnap. 4AM, now awake for the day. Guess 10 hours of sleep was enough.
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Mel Lono Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:06:04am |
re: #140 redc1c4
Hey red.. Bartenders meeting in the morning. Whole new martini menu from the "beverage consultant". I gave him your list, but not sure if even one will be on it. Still holding out for the HD flat screen, but not holding my breath. Might have to hold my tongue though.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:10:58am |
re: #140 redc1c4
I don't accept that. It take much more strength of character to apologize for an offense, even if only perceived, I will try to acknowledge their feelings. I still think it was funny, even if a disgusting visual.
LOL actually from what I've read here, my real surprise was that someone didn't beat me to typing it.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:12:24am |
re: #149 moe katz
Sounds good to me, though I'm not a military expert.... I think they have contingency plans to target the Republican Guards (no relation to the GOP so far as I know)
why strike military targets when you can cut the autocratic government ofdf from it';s already unhappy and restive populace, and the bosses off from their masters in Tehran...... you're thinking 20th Century war, i'm going 21st.
why go force on force when you can judo them?
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rorschach Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:13:50am |
Are the Hannity/Palin interviews up online yet?
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:14:26am |
re: #152 Mel Lono
Hey red.. Bartenders meeting in the morning. Whole new martini menu from the "beverage consultant". I gave him your list, but not sure if even one will be on it. Still holding out for the HD flat screen, but not holding my breath. Might have to hold my tongue though.
the bastard will likely get a promotion and a bonus off of what was private between you and me.... is it too late for him to fall into King harbor? %-)
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Moe Katz Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:14:49am |
re: #155 redc1c4
why strike military targets when you can cut the autocratic government ofdf from it';s already unhappy and restive populace, and the bosses off from their masters in Tehran...... you're thinking 20th Century war, i'm going 21st.
why go force on force when you can judo them?
I don't normally comment on military matters in order not to make a fool of myself. But what you suggest sounds like a good beginning, what you'd do before putting boots on the ground. I don't think you could change the regime without troops there.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:15:09am |
re: #154 HD Woman
I don't accept that. It take much more strength of character to apologize for an offense, even if only perceived, I will try to acknowledge their feelings. I still think it was funny, even if a disgusting visual.
LOL actually from what I've read here, my real surprise was that someone didn't beat me to typing it.
then you are arguing with John Wayne..... are you sure you want to go there?
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Moe Katz Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:16:12am |
There are major segments of that society that support the regime and they're the best armed. The army elite belongs to the Ayatollahs.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:18:06am |
re: #153 Sharmuta
Thank you lady, still got it, still know what to do with it. ;)
c4 - I sure like the way you think
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:19:19am |
re: #156 rorschach
I think the video was posted over at Hot Air yesterday.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:20:02am |
re: #158 Moe Katz
I don't normally comment on military matters in order not to make a fool of myself. But what you suggest sounds like a good beginning, what you'd do before putting boots on the ground. I don't think you could change the regime without troops there.
if the country was stable, you'd likely be right, but it's not: it's an autocratic collection of thugs trying to keep the lid on an unhappy populace. cut it up into sections (the geography helps), destroy the governments C3I and ability to influence the population, and encourage dissent that already exists via satellite TV, and by taking out any reserve transmitters the govt pops up with, along with the occasional night time stealth raid on targets of opportunity in support of uprisings.
don't mention anything, don't claim anything, just do it and sit back and watch what happens....... "We're as surprised as anyone at the breadth and power of the opposition in Iran..."
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Moe Katz Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:22:09am |
re: #165 redc1c4
Red, I think you underestimate the support the regime has, and how that would grow if the country was invaded.
Off to bed, anyway. Goodnight all.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:22:26am |
re: #160 Moe Katz
There are major segments of that society that support the regime and they're the best armed. The army elite belongs to the Ayatollahs.
true, but if they are cut off from orders, and can't move around the country, what good are they? how long will said allegiance last? will they kill their own citizens without orders?
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:23:07am |
re: #167 Moe Katz
Red, I think you underestimate the support the regime has, and how that would grow if the country was invaded.
Off to bed, anyway. Goodnight all.
that's why i'm not advocating invasion...... where did i ever mention troops?
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Moe Katz Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:23:45am |
re: #168 redc1c4
true, but if they are cut off from orders, and can't move around the country, what good are they? how long will said allegiance last? will they kill their own citizens without orders?
I think they'd manage, despite disrupted communications. Goodnight again.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:24:25am |
re: #166 HD Woman
Yep, just call me Mattie Ross
well, at least you have true grit.
(get a helmet with a face shield. %-)
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Mel Lono Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:24:48am |
re: #157 redc1c4
the bastard will likely get a promotion and a bonus off of what was private between you and me.... is it too late for him to fall into King harbor? %-)
My apologies for sharing state secrets. Was only trying to get some recognition for new thinking etc.
thinking about someway to blackmail the bastard though.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:25:13am |
re: #170 Moe Katz
I think they'd manage, despite disrupted communications. Goodnight again.
cite or reasons for said belief?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:26:05am |
re: #164 Sharmuta
Very nice. We've had a bit of rain here lately but it doesn't bother me much. I'm perfectly happy to stay inside and read. My rental house came with a rent-a-cat who I've named Maury. The house is right on a little bay where the local fishermen bring in their catch every afternoon. I can just go out when a boat shows up and buy some fish. Maury likes to eat the heads, skull and all. It's pretty impressive.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:27:04am |
re: #168 redc1c4
true, but if they are cut off from orders, and can't move around the country, what good are they? how long will said allegiance last? will they kill their own citizens without orders?
Yes. You are talking about a regime that has police on the streets making sure young people don't hold hands. Religious totalitarians would rather kill than lose control.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:27:33am |
re: #165 redc1c4
"We're as surprised as anyone at the breadth and power of the opposition in Iran..."
"We're as surprised as anyone at the breadth and scope of plane crashes in Iran"
/seriously....that shit happens alot- even without our intervention.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:27:47am |
re: #172 Mel Lono
My apologies for sharing state secrets. Was only trying to get some recognition for new thinking etc.
thinking about someway to blackmail the bastard though.
credit to a little person? like *that* would ever happen........
no worries on the data, i got it off the intrewebs and it's still out there, likely in various different versions. for our revenge, we can scan his recipes, and on the off chance he has a new one, take it viral ala the Palin ads.....
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Egfrow Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:28:27am |
What ever happened to the tornado of comparisons between Iraq and Vietnam by Media and Democrats? Shhh! The silence is deafening!
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Mel Lono Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:29:42am |
re: #178 Egfrow
What ever happened to the tornado of comparisons between
IraqIran and Vietnam by Media and Democrats? Shhh! The silence is deafening!
Did I get that right?
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:30:05am |
re: #171 redc1c4
No helmet ever! You'll find I'm pretty hard headed, and I don't mind a few bugs in my teeth.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:32:08am |
re: #175 HD Woman
Yes. You are talking about a regime that has police on the streets making sure young people don't hold hands. Religious totalitarians would rather kill than lose control.
the problem with power like that is once the people realize the weakness of it, they can and do rise up against it. Without the ability to call for back up or directions, the thugs are doomed. take out the C3I and the interior LOC's and the government runs out of options real quick, especially after the first few revolts hit the satellites and the other areas see what's going on. remember the fall of Albania and the rest of the Warsaw Pact?
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:33:07am |
re: #181 HD Woman
No helmet ever! You'll find I'm pretty hard headed, and I don't mind a few bugs in my teeth.
got your donor card filled out?
/practical
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:36:50am |
re: #182 redc1c4
the problem with power like that is once the people realize the weakness of it, they can and do rise up against it. Without the ability to call for back up or directions, the thugs are doomed. take out the C3I and the interior LOC's and the government runs out of options real quick, especially after the first few revolts hit the satellites and the other areas see what's going on. remember the fall of Albania and the rest of the Warsaw Pact?
The thugs are only doomed if they have less bullets than people in that particular area. I do believe there would be serious revolt in areas around colleges, in other areas, I'm more dubious
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:42:39am |
And if you've knocked out infastructure, they might not be able to get that information. Does sound nice though. I remember the Iranian revolution, and so do lots of Iranians. No one came to help them, in time or otherwise.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:43:24am |
re: #184 HD Woman
The thugs are only doomed if they have less bullets than people in that particular area. I do believe there would be serious revolt in areas around colleges, in other areas, I'm more dubious
history indicates otherwise, but it's late and i've got a meeting at my city councilman's office in the am. they are talking about creating a park in my area, and the local reps are two real estate agents and a contractor, plus the local liberal politician groupie who told me "i don't care what they do, as long as they do something."..... needless to say, i don't agree, so i'm showing up and doing my 500# gorilla imitation.
L8r! hasta, y'all................
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:45:14am |
re: #183 redc1c4
got your donor card filled out?
/practical
LRH! Nope! That much I CAN take with me.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:46:01am |
re: #185 HD Woman
And if you've knocked out infastructure, they might not be able to get that information. Does sound nice though. I remember the Iranian revolution, and so do lots of Iranians. No one came to help them, in time or otherwise.
did you miss the satellite TV part? quite prevalent all over, from what i've read, and a thorn in the mullahs side, since they can't control it, but they can't get rid of it either without more stress than they're up for. the edge is closer than they wish to admit. i say we push them over it.
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:46:52am |
re: #174 Killgore Trout
I'm glad you're having a nice time, although you're missed here.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:48:15am |
re: #186 redc1c4
Good luck with that. Wish I coulda done the 500# thang last week at our city meeting! I don't have much wieght to throw around.
/Sweet dreams
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:49:32am |
re: #187 HD Woman
LRH! Nope! That much I CAN take with me.
too bad: helmet laws are one reason for the decrease in available donations. being a free market sort of person, i'd make helmet laws optional, with the understanding codified into the law that if you didn't wear one, and you were dead but salvageable, no further consent was needed.
that way everyone gives something and everyone gets something.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:51:16am |
last post srsly....... lemme just stop off and visit the fruitcup.
( and not the dummies either. %-)
/white smoke
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SouthAmericanWay Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:51:38am |
The close and documented links of Obama, the liar, and Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist, are becoming clearer and clearer. Stanley Kurtz publishes his first article on their relationship and their shared radical educational goals:
Obama and Ayers
Pushed Radicalism
On Schools
Excerpts:
The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the "Collaborative," which shaped education policy. ...
One unsettled question is how Mr. Obama, a former community organizer fresh out of law school, could vault to the top of a new foundation? In response to my questions, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying that Mr. Ayers had nothing to do with Obama's "recruitment" to the board. The statement says Deborah Leff and Patricia Albjerg Graham (presidents of other foundations) recruited him. Yet the archives show that, along with Ms. Leff and Ms. Graham, Mr. Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board in 1994. Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval. ...
CAC translated Mr. Ayers's radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with "external partners," which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).
Mr. Obama once conducted "leadership training" seminars with Acorn, and Acorn members also served as volunteers in Mr. Obama's early campaigns. External partners like the South Shore African Village Collaborative and the Dual Language Exchange focused more on political consciousness, Afrocentricity and bilingualism than traditional education. CAC's in-house evaluators comprehensively studied the effects of its grants on the test scores of Chicago public-school students. They found no evidence of educational improvement. ...
Mr. Ayers is the founder of the "small schools" movement (heavily funded by CAC), in which individual schools built around specific political themes push students to "confront issues of inequity, war, and violence." He believes teacher education programs should serve as "sites of resistance" to an oppressive system. (His teacher-training programs were also CAC funded.) The point, says Mr. Ayers in his "Teaching Toward Freedom," is to "teach against oppression," against America's history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.
The Obama campaign has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:51:39am |
re: #1 Sharmuta
0bama quotes! We need more 0bama quotes!
0bama quotes? You want 0bama quotes? Here's a bunch of them- including how Hillary was on his short list of potential Veeps and how McCain will continue to follow Cheney's foreign policy. You read that right- Cheney's.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:57:06am |
re: #192 redc1c4
My mom got Hepatitus when I was young, she bout died.. we all got shots, but unfortunately, after over 15 years of donating blood, I got a letter from red cross saying don't donate anymore. I was beside myself with grief. I wouldn't want contaminated organs in the till, would you?
My husband was mortified when we were on the subject once and I told him he didn't even have to pick up my body from the morgue, I was done with it.
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:00:03am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:00:58am |
re: #192 redc1c4
that way everyone gives something and everyone gets something.
HUH? what would the dead rider get? The freedom to do what they already can do? That may be the most D thing of yours that I've ever read.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:01:09am |
re: #196 HD Woman
My mom got Hepatitus when I was young, she bout died.. we all got shots, but unfortunately, after over 15 years of donating blood, I got a letter from red cross saying don't donate anymore. I was beside myself with grief. I wouldn't want contaminated organs in the till, would you?
My husband was mortified when we were on the subject once and I told him he didn't even have to pick up my body from the morgue, I was done with it.
point taken..... though i'd say in general it's still a good idea.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:02:50am |
re: #196 HD Woman
I'm giving my body to science anyway, take whatever you want. I always have the insane notion that I hope someone uses my body to play a tremendously funny joke on a new intern or something.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:03:15am |
re: #194 SouthAmericanWay
Yeah! I've been waiting & looking for that!
Ni'tol
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uptight Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:04:19am |
Please, please, please can Rupert Murdoch, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and any other wealthy conservative working in the media please join forces and buy out MSNBC, the New York Times and any other high profile media outlet in trouble.
The only advantage the left have is their newspapers & TV stations. Take away that advantage and they'll never win a thing.
It's not difficult to understand.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:05:58am |
re: #204 uptight
You will only be able to find a printed media newspaper in a museum in a hundred years. Just let them die.
MSNBC is already on mothballs, they just can't smell them yet.
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redc1c4 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:06:02am |
re: #198 HD Woman
that way everyone gives something and everyone gets something.
HUH? what would the dead rider get? The freedom to do what they already can do? That may be the most D thing of yours that I've ever read.
society in general has decided, right or wrong, that the cost of helmetless riders is more than they wish to bear. since riding a motorcycle is no more a right than is driving, the states have a right to regulate in anyway they wish, hence helmet laws. rather than force this issue, with the resultant downside to society (reduced organ donations from accident victims) why not do a trade off?
granted, your state may not have a mandatory law, since i don't know where you live, but there's one here in CA, and, as i understand it, in most other states of the US. YMMV.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:07:46am |
re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm giving my body to science anyway, take whatever you want. I always have the insane notion that I hope someone uses my body to play a tremendously funny joke on a new intern or something.
LOL I have had those notions myself.
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:08:26am |
re: #208 redc1c4
Maybe because you took one of your own by mistake.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:09:02am |
Gary Bussey does not believe in helmet laws. Worked out pretty well for him. Just sayin...
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:09:13am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:10:24am |
Hey LOL! I haven't seen you lately! How you doin!
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:13:29am |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian! :-)
I'm okay, thanks for asking! Tired. We went to the local McCain/Palin rally yesterday the logistics of getting there and back made it many more hours than we expected.
How's by you?
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yochanan Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:13:37am |
re: #33 JustMyView
You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBAMA AND JOHN MCCAIN ON THE MILITARY IS OBAMA AND HIS LEFTIST FRIENDS HATE THE IMPERALIST MILITARY AND JOHN MCCAIN JUST WANTS THEM TO DO A BETTER JOB HE SPENT 22 YEARS IN THE SERVICE AND IS WELL AWARE OF IT.
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uptight Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:13:49am |
re: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You will only be able to find a printed media newspaper in a museum in a hundred years. Just let them die.
MSNBC is already on mothballs, they just can't smell them yet.
The Net is certainly trouncing newspapers, but newspapers are still the quoted source for much of the information that ends up online.
TV News is the main way people get information and the libs control it. The media has got to be worth at least 20% of Democrat votes. Take away their voice and who would seek out liberal opinion (in the way they have to seek out conservative opinion)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:13:50am |
re: #211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Big Ben (won't try to spell his last name) Pittsburgh Steelers? Staunch believer in Helmet Laws now.
Lone Star also believes in Big Helmet.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:14:28am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Phils are in first place overall.....looks like the Mets are in the middle of pulling a repeat of last year's regular season finale (helping themselvs out of a playoff spot).
Believe it or not, I'm a little sad to see Yankee stadium go. I mean it was, after all, where the greatest comeback in all of baseball was finalized.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:17:12am |
re: #215 littleoldlady
Glad you asked. Father in law asked me Sunday if I could help him out a bit on Monday (my day off). Went over to Church to help him move some couches. Met him at 8....got home at 3:30 yesterday afternoon.
Was planning on being home by 10. The logistics of getting there and back made it many more hours than I expected!
You win. I didn't get to see McCain/Palin!
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:17:45am |
re: #219 Fenway_Nation
Shhhh! Don't jinx us! ;-)
As long as the post-Mets season isn't the same as last year...
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:19:16am |
re: #206 redc1c4
society in general has decided, right or wrong, that the cost of helmetless riders is more than they wish to bear.
Insurance companies have decided that the cost of helmetless riders is more than they wish to bear.
since riding a motorcycle is no more a right than is driving, the states have a right to regulate in anyway they wish, hence helmet laws.
The state is the goverment of the people, if the people are smart and active enough, the people wishes rule in place of the insurance companies that try to pay off government officials.
rather than force this issue, with the resultant downside to society (reduced organ donations from accident victims) why not do a trade off?
I'd rather not "trade off" my freedoms.
Remember when sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous? How does your logic stand up to the AIDS/HIV ISSUE? can we do the same deal with condoms?granted, your state may not have a mandatory law, since i don't know where you live, but there's one here in CA, and, as i understand it, in most other states of the US. YMMV.
Oklahoma proud! Most other states are rider choice for persons over 21.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:22:15am |
re: #211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gary Bussey does not believe in helmet laws. Worked out pretty well for him. Just sayin...
I had to laugh that you used another fat bastard vegetarian for an example. Actually he started believing in helmets real quick after he knocked his noggin onthe curb.
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:24:12am |
re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You win. I didn't get to see McCain/Palin!
Let me rephrase that...when one is about the height of a typical 5th grader, and one is standing in a huge crowd of adult-sized adults, one does not get to "see" very much.
/meannastyteenager got some great pix though. ;-)
//and it was a great rally.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:27:15am |
re: #223 HD Woman
I had to laugh that you used another fat bastard vegetarian for an example. Actually he started believing in helmets real quick after he knocked his noggin onthe curb.
He started out nuts, but since the accident is now (want to be politically correct) uh...BATSHIT!
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:31:12am |
re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Even being politically incorrect words fail me on that guy, some primal feelings of ICK fer sure.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:35:14am |
re: #224 littleoldlady
I'm a bit jealous and very glad that you got to go to one of their rallies. The closest they came to me was Pueblo and I couldn't swing it. Did you get a Chris Matthews like tingle? I'm pretty sure I would have.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:36:33am |
Well you know LOL, she's such a typical 5th grader....
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:37:18am |
re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
LOL is probably a 5'10" Swedish Bikini Model.
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:38:56am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:41:17am |
re: #230 littleoldlady
/the downside is the avalanche of phone calls from here to November...
At 3 AM?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:42:46am |
Bells ringing....I AGREE WITH BILL CLINTON! I AGREE WITH BILL CLINTON!
Speaking to reporters before his Clinton Global Initiative meeting, the former president described Palin's appeal by adding, "People look at her, and they say, 'All those kids. Something that happens in everybody's family. I'm glad she loves her daughter and she's not ashamed of her. Glad that girl's going around with her boyfriend. Glad they're going to get married.'"
Clinton said voters would think, "I like that little Down syndrome kid. One of them lives down the street. They're wonderful children. They're wonderful people. And I like the idea that this guy does those long-distance races. Stayed in the race for 500 miles with a broken arm. My kind of guy."
Palin, the governor of Alaska, became an overnight star when Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her for his running mate. Her family, including her Down syndrome baby, Trig, her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, and her husband, Todd, four-time winner of the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, have garnered intense media interest.
"I get this," Clinton said. "My view is ... why say, ever, anything bad about a person? Why don't we like them and celebrate them and be happy for her elevation to the ticket? And just say that she was a good choice for him and we disagree with them?"
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:43:23am |
re: #231 Fenway_Nation
Only if they really don't want me to vote for them.
/above my pay grade.
//on the other hand, I'm usually awake at 3 am...
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:46:04am |
re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My cousin's wife is 4'3" and swedish bikini models wish they were that cute. Like a true living doll.
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yochanan Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:47:32am |
The only pol. commericals we are getting are for some congressional races in the subs
he supports bush's war (fill in gop cong. name) hate bush blah blah blah blah (fill in liberal dem name) blah blah blah there all the same
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:49:35am |
re: #234 HD Woman
My goodness, that's tiny!
/I would TOWER over her!
//what a refreshing thought! ;-)
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:54:31am |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bill Clinton is a whore. Once that had been established, the only thing left was negotiating the price. Comments like that prove that Obama gave HRC some money, and it proves that he didn't pay the original asking price. Comments like that also make me cackle with glee like HRC!
Wish I knew how much of her loan to herself that Obama paid back, it would make a great "priceless" spoof.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:55:42am |
re: #237 littleoldlady
My Mom is 5'2" and she just loves being around her!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:59:39am |
re: #240 HD Woman
That proves that Obama paid Clinton money? Huh? Clinton gets paid money and tears them a new one....that quote did not tear anything.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:03:18am |
re: #236 yochanan
Here in OK, Rice(D) is trying to win Inhoffe's (r)seat. He started off with ads that instantly reminded us of Obama - I've been listening to people's concerns blah blah - Inhoffe jumped on it & it's been pretty funny seeing the ads that compare him to the skinny o. They end with the big circle slash over the faces of Rice & Obama/ NOT RIGHT FOR OKLAHOMA
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akak Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:03:19am |
re: #237 littleoldlady
I knew it, Hightower is your sockpuppet!
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littleoldlady Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:07:51am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:10:06am |
re: #245 littleoldlady
Heh...reminds me of one time Clinton was looking at a miniature White House model. Turned to Robert Reich (sp?) and said, "Hey, you could live in here!" before (I think Bentson) gave him a "psst...that's not politically correct" shush!
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:12:53am |
re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That proves that Obama paid Clinton money? Huh? Clinton gets paid money and tears them a new one....that quote did not tear anything.
I believe the fact that they are out there stumping for him at all proves he helped her with the campaign debt. This is the guy that equivocated on the definition of IS. He schooled the world on his careful wording, so yep I'm more than just a little jaded when it comes to this guy.
If I believe the worst of this guy, it's his bad.
If I believed anything that comes out of his pie hole, that would be my bad.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:14:32am |
re: #247 HD Woman
Won't discuss. Sorry I brought it up.
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:18:48am |
Posted by RTLM at No. 5. This is strange
SNIP
Suspicion has also been cast on the ship's crew, half of which is almost entirely staffed by Iranians - a large percentage of Iranian nationals for a standard merchant vessel. Somali officials say that the ship has a crew of 29 men, including a Pakistani captain, an Iranian engineer, 13 other Iranians, 3 Indians, 2 Filipinos, and 10 Eastern Europeans, possibly Croatian.
The MV Iran Deyanat was brought to Eyl, a sleepy fishing village in northeastern Somalia, and was secured by a larger gang of pirates - 50 onboard and 50 onshore. Within days, pirates who had boarded the ship developed strange health complications, skin burns and loss of hair. Independent sources tell The Long War Journal that a number of pirates have also died. "Yes, some of them have died. I do not know exactly how many but the information that I am getting is that some of them have died," Andrew Mwangura, Director of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program, said Friday when reached by phone in Mombasa.
News about the illness and the toxic cargo quickly reached Garowe, seat of the government for the autonomous region of Puntland. Angered over the wave of piracy and suspicious about the Iranian ship, authorities dispatched a delegation led by Minister of Minerals and Oil Hassan Allore Osman to investigate the situation on September 4. Osman also confirmed to The Long War Journal that during the six days he negotiated with the pirates members of the syndicate had become sick and died. "That ship is unusual," he said. "It is not carrying a normal shipment."
SNIP
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:21:00am |
re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
LOL That's the way most people feel when the subject turns to slick willy around me. I'll admit to disliking both the Clintons in a very rabid like fashion.
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:26:38am |
re: #250 Sharmuta
Wow, If they'd do that to her just for being born a woman, I don't want to think about what they would do to her for trying to stand up for herself and her daughter. I hope she gets to stay.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:29:35am |
re: #249 MandyManners
1. Always glad when Somali pirates catch a little radiation poisoning. Can't happen to nicer guys.
2. When it comes to Iranians, always love little "workplace mishaps"!
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HD Woman Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:29:48am |
Daylight soon. Things to do.
Best wishes to you all.
xoxo BFV
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:30:39am |
re: #250 Sharmuta
Did you see this?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
I didn't need to read that this early in the morning.
Good to see that some are paying attention. I just wanna' know what in the hell that BoIA was thinkng. She's already been mutilated so let's force her back?!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:30:43am |
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:31:39am |
re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
1. Always glad when Somali pirates catch a little radiation poisoning. Can't happen to nicer guys.
2. When it comes to Iranians, always love little "workplace mishaps"!
What is the cargo?! What was really gonna' be unloaded in the Netherlands?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:33:38am |
re: #257 MandyManners
That was #3. Hit "post this comment" by accident.
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SouthAmericanWay Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:34:58am |
If anyone had any doubts about the ONLY motive Democrats are delaying the "bailout" - which they will approve in the end, anyway:
Democrats in the Senate and House believe that if they can string out negotiations on the federal financial markets bailout through Tuesday, "we can get everything we want and more, including solidifying the Obama campaign," says a Senate Banking Committee staffer working for the majority.
"Let's see what the White House has to say when the market is cratering again."
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yesandno Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:35:16am |
The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him.— Robert Benchley
And the surest way to make a man of a monkey is for him to become a liberal...
/and you recognize him as the one flinging poo at everyone he dislikes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:36:42am |
re: #260 yesandno
And the surest way to make a man of a monkey is for him to become a liberal...
/and you recognize him as the one flinging poo at everyone he dislikes.
"Marx on the Wall" by Hoo Flung Poo?
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sparrowlake Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:37:28am |
re: #257 MandyManners
What is the cargo?! What was really gonna' be unloaded in the Netherlands?
Ahmadinejad should be "invited" to spend a couple of days on the ship to help get to the bottom of this.
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:40:35am |
re: #255 MandyManners
Sorry- I thought you'd want to know about it.
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rightside Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:44:43am |
re: #250 Sharmuta
Good read. I say sink it where it berths... :^)
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:45:40am |
It is an incredibly bad piece of writing. The mysterious illness and deaths should've been in the lede.
A companion article has an interesting assertion.
What about North Koreans?
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galloping granny Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:45:51am |
re: #249 MandyManners
Posted by RTLM at No. 5. This is strange
SNIP
SNIP
Yes, that is a bit strange, isn't it? I'm surprised that the author didn't do a double take when he wrote about the symptoms the pirates who boarded the ship suffered. That is radiation poisoning.
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:46:14am |
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:48:25am |
re: #266 galloping granny
Yes, that is a bit strange, isn't it? I'm surprised that the author didn't do a double take when he wrote about the symptoms the pirates who boarded the ship suffered. That is radiation poisoning.
I don't know who Nick Grace or Abdiweli Ali is but, neither one seems to be able to write his way out of a wet paper sack.
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:49:18am |
re: #249 MandyManners
Posted by RTLM at No. 5. This is strange
SNIP
SNIP
Bad link.
Good link.
[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:51:07am |
re: #267 MandyManners
I did. It's just disgusting.
Yeah, well....let's make sure we send the women back!
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:55:56am |
re: #269 MandyManners
I don't know who Nick Grace or Abdiweli Ali is but, neither one seems to be able to write his way out of a wet paper sack.
Nick Grace works for Threats Watch. I don't know what is his background but, he needs a course or two expository writing, maybe journalism 101 for writing.
Ali works for Threats Watch, too, but his primary job is a professor of economics at Niagra University. He, too, might benefit from some writing instruction.
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:56:39am |
re: #271 Sharmuta
Yeah, well....let's make sure we send the women back!
And, to hell with any little girl she might have in the future!
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:59:40am |
DoT press release on the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines.
"Not only does IRISL facilitate the transport of cargo for U.N. designated proliferators, it also falsifies documents and uses deceptive schemes to shroud its involvement in illicit commerce," said Stuart Levey, Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. "IRISL's actions are part of a broader pattern of deception and fabrication that Iran uses to advance its nuclear and missile programs. That conduct should give pause to any financial institution or business still choosing to deal with Iran."
SNIP
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sparrowlake Tue, Sep 23, 2008 3:59:48am |
re: #261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Marx on the Wall" by Hoo Flung Poo?
Ah yes, the China Mystery Series.
My favourites were "Yellow River" by I.P. Standing and "The Green Line" by Ah Chiu.
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rightside Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:05:47am |
re: #275 sparrowlake
What about those other classics, "Fifty yards to the outhouse" by Willie Makeit, and Betty Don't... or, "Rusty bedsprings" by I.P. Knightley
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:09:00am |
re: #274 MandyManners
DoT press release on the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines.
SNIP
Our government designated IRISL 20 days after it was seized. Before 9/4/08, the pirates were was getting sick and dying.
News about the illness and the toxic cargo quickly reached Garowe, seat of the government for the autonomous region of Puntland. Angered over the wave of piracy and suspicious about the Iranian ship, authorities dispatched a delegation led by Minister of Minerals and Oil Hassan Allore Osman to investigate the situation on September 4. Osman also confirmed to The Long War Journal that during the six days he negotiated with the pirates members of the syndicate had become sick and died. "That ship is unusual," he said. "It is not carrying a normal shipment."
Once in direct contact, the pirates told Osman that they had attempted to inspect the ship's seven cargo containers after they developed health complications but the containers were locked. The crew claimed that they did not have the "access codes" and could not open them. The delegation secured contact with the captain and the engineer by cell phone and demanded to know the nature of the cargo, however, Osman says that "they were saying different things to different people." Initially they said that the cargo contained "crude oil" but then claimed it contained "minerals."
"The secrecy is not clear to us," Mwangura said about the cargo. "Our sources say it contains chemicals, dangerous chemicals." IRISL has flatly denied the ship is carrying a "dangerous consignment" and has threatened legal action against Mwangura.
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Tamron Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:09:07am |
re: #257 MandyManners
What is the cargo?! What was really gonna' be unloaded in the Netherlands?
The Israelis most likely have a lot of attention on this ship.
Hypothetical question: Once through the Suez Canal, if a ship with deadly radioactive cargo made a right turn and headed towards Tel Aviv, staying in international waters, how close could it get before directly butting heads with the Israelis?
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:09:58am |
re: #273 MandyManners
And, to hell with any little girl she might have in the future!
Ship her back to a forced marriage and rape. And if she doesn't want that- heck, maybe we'd be shipping her back to her death.
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sparrowlake Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:11:49am |
re: #273 MandyManners
And, to hell with any little girl she might have in the future!
As I understand it these women had their clitorises cut off by other women and with the consent of their parents when they were girls. This is a barbaric and uncivilized practice and the parents and mutilators deserve to be punished - but should that be enough to automatically qualify an applicant for refugee status?
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:13:09am |
re: #278 Tamron
The Israelis most likely have a lot of attention on this ship.
Hypothetical question: Once through the Suez Canal, if a ship with deadly radioactive cargo made a right turn and headed towards Tel Aviv, staying in international waters, how close could it get before directly butting heads with the Israelis?
I have no idea. Isn't the 6th Fleet in the Mediterranean Sea?
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:13:51am |
re: #279 Sharmuta
Ship her back to a forced marriage and rape. And if she doesn't want that- heck, maybe we'd be shipping her back to her death.
I guarantee it would be death in the first place 'cause she's fought her return.
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:14:14am |
re: #280 sparrowlake
As I understand it these women had their clitorises cut off by other women and with the consent of their parents when they were girls. This is a barbaric and uncivilized practice and the parents and mutilators deserve to be punished - but should that be enough to automatically qualify an applicant for refugee status?
Yes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:20:24am |
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galloping granny Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:21:16am |
re: #280 sparrowlake
As I understand it these women had their clitorises cut off by other women and with the consent of their parents when they were girls. This is a barbaric and uncivilized practice and the parents and mutilators deserve to be punished - but should that be enough to automatically qualify an applicant for refugee status?
If it is, then I would hope that someone would go through the list of things that DO qualify someone for refugee status here with a very fine toothed comb. And maybe send a few bureaucrats packing while they are at it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:21:54am |
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Pullus Iulius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:22:49am |
re: #268 rightside
These should probably be more accurately termed 3-country naval maneuvers, since I am sure there are some Los Angeles class attack sub skippers right now who could tell you how many times the Russian sailors have gone to the can, and which Venezuelan diesel scows need a tune-up. There are two kind of vessels currently in the Carribbean: submarines and targets.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:24:12am |
re: #284 MandyManners
I love Ralph Peters.
He doesn't know who I am either. Guess that makes us even.
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:24:22am |
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sparrowlake Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:25:38am |
re: #283 MandyManners
Yes.
I tend to agree with you on a human level, but what if the number of genitally mutilated applicants becomes very large and the Islamofascists cynically use this as an immigration Jihad strategy?
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:26:27am |
re: #291 sparrowlake
I tend to agree with you on a human level, but what if the number of genitally mutilated applicants becomes very large and the Islamofascists cynically use this as an immigration Jihad strategy?
That's what investigations are for.
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:28:21am |
good afternoon room...
does anyone has some info about [Link: www.isim.nl...] ? what type of organization is it ?
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sparrowlake Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:29:55am |
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:34:19am |
re: #293 loveguru
good afternoon room...
does anyone has some info about [Link: www.isim.nl...] ? what type of organization is it ?
This might give more insight.
[Link: www.isim.nl...]
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Dar ul Harbarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:35:44am |
In today's WSJ (hope the link works)
A very informative read. Pass it on.
Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools
By STANLEY KURTZ
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Tamron Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:37:24am |
re: #195 Sharmuta
0bama quotes? You want 0bama quotes? Here's a bunch of them- including how Hillary was on his short list of potential Veeps and how McCain will continue to follow Cheney's foreign policy. You read that right- Cheney's.
During that interview Obama openly said that both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were highly qualified for the office of PRESIDENT. That's not the first time he's made that error, either.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:37:25am |
re: #296 Dar ul Harbarian
In today's WSJ (hope the link works)
A very informative read. Pass it on.
Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools
By STANLEY KURTZ
Gosh Darn it! I just don't trust Obama now...
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:39:16am |
re: #293 loveguru
good afternoon room...
does anyone has some info about [Link: www.isim.nl...] ? what type of organization is it ?
The Overreaction against Islami Charities.
SNIP
But is it necessary to dignify the publication of such analysis, fortified by extracts from heavily biased intelligence websites, with the authority
of major university presses?1 Such books disrespect the normal requirement that serious social researchers should check their information from different sources, make allowances for their own prejudices and those of informants, and situate their findings in a broad political context. Two recently published books of this kind on Islamic charities allow no voice whatever to the charity workers themselves or their beneficiaries. Smearing of a bona fide charity’s reputation can seriously wrong its trustees and staff, and destroy their ability to help the people for whom it was set up.
SNIP
Sounds rather moonbattish to me.
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:40:08am |
re: #294 sparrowlake
What a can of worms that would be.
basically investigation are more a political game.. in which one party blame other.... what we are talking here is about humanity, which is universal...
the problem is not allowing them in our countries, but the problem is that we think that after allowing them in our countries we are done with all of our responsibility. A better approach will be to attack that mentality, that enforce other human under subhuman treatment (which also include genitally mutilated womens)...
we need to ask those genitally mutilated applicants to stand against genitally mutilation .. rather then enjoying their life... its a far bigger duty on them, then on us .... to fight the evil from which they ran.
we had given them support and shelter to fight the evil, not to live on our mercy !
in short, people need to be made self-aware ..... rather then make them accept submission !
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:40:09am |
re: #294 sparrowlake
What a can of worms that would be.
I just don't see a statistically significant number of women claimng this need for refuge.
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:42:40am |
re: #299 MandyManners
one of the contributor of ismi is currently defending jihadis in india; so i was just thinking what is it... i m upto a 10 series article, dedicated to UN bigots.. and islamic banking... thats really a nice tip .... thanks :)
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:43:39am |
re: #302 loveguru
one of the contributor of ismi is currently defending jihadis in india; so i was just thinking what is it... i m upto a 10 series article, dedicated to UN bigots.. and islamic banking... thats really a nice tip .... thanks :)
I think they're Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate.
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Cap'n DOC Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:45:45am |
re: #299 MandyManners
I been harpin' on Billy & Bernardines' rings (from Sen. McCain's wings), when all along I shouldabeen harpin' on the (CAC) Board of the Rings. Thanks for posting that, Mandy.
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:46:03am |
re: #303 MandyManners
I think they're Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate.
LOL ........ true, but i want to see... will they enjoy the taste of the medicine they want to enforce on others.... !
basically i am against REligion and politics being merged ... but if they want, then let me defend my religion this time ;)
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Sharmuta Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:47:44am |
re: #297 Tamron
During that interview Obama openly said that both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were highly qualified for the office of PRESIDENT. That's not the first time he's made that error, either.
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I loved how he said Hill was on his short list. What a liar.
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flynmudd Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:52:14am |
Wall Street Journal On The Editorial Page
Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools--good read!
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:52:37am |
re: #303 MandyManners
I think they're Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate.
The UN has been the coalition of petty dictators since it was founded. It is structured to give them clout. Initially it worked ok for us since in 1945 the only place with piles of dictators was Latin America, and those guys had been (with the exception of Argentina) our allies in the war. Then decolonialization came and tin-pot dictators favorable to the Soviets sprang up everywhere. Khrushchev strategy was to use "wars of national liberation" to embarrass the west and to create a world-wide web of alliances while breaking the ring around the Communist bloc that Truman and Eisenhower were trying to construct.
It worked; the modern day Caliphate is the product of thirty years of Soviet planning. Meanwhile, the arab nationalists have been planning their grand new caliphate since the 1920s. Hannah Arendt explained the plan in an essay written in 1943: use oil to drive a wedge between Europe and the US; take advantage of Britain's wartime and post-war weakness to break up (with the full support of the Nazis) the British Empire; to establish their own "Commonwealth" to replace the British Commonwealth.
The only problem with their initial plan was that the Nazis weren't as successful as they hoped (despite Anwar Sadat's attempts to organize a military coup to aid Rommel in the conquest of Egypt) and that cooperation between Arab and non-Muslim Arab states proved to be lacking.
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:55:17am |
re: #310 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
FBV -- how's it going?
Are you in on the Manuel's Tavern do October 12?
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HoosierHoops Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:55:57am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:56:16am |
re: #311 Lucius Septimius
Guess not. Virginia here.
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 4:59:48am |
From an article in today's WSJ:
Throughout the hard-fought Democratic primaries, Mr. Obama maintained his cool even in the face of some tough Bill and Hill tag-teaming. The way he shrugged off attacks was a huge part of his appeal.But now Mr. Obama seems to be exchanging his JFK face for a Bob Dole mask. His campaign sends out email after email complaining of McCain "lies." He makes an ill-advised joke about lipstick on a pig that his audience clearly applauds as a snarky put-down of Mrs. Palin, and he does not have the grace (or good sense) simply to apologize and move on. Just last week, he told supporters to "argue and get in their face" when they talk to those who do not share their political affiliation.
This is not the Barack Obama who inspired millions. This is not the Barack Obama who is likely to persuade all those white working-class Hillary voters that he respects their values and will look out for their interests. In short, Mr. Obama needs to relearn the lesson that propelled him to a historic nomination: cheerful and optimistic generally trumps cranky.
Unfortunately for the dems, "cranky" is probably the real Obama insofar as it is a corollary to his narcissism. If people don't respond to his aura the way he thinks they ought to, he seems incapable of any response but to get testy.
The more we see the man behind the curtain, the less attractive he becomes.
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:00:13am |
re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thought you were also down in Georgia -- oh well.
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:03:55am |
re: #304 Cap'n DOC
I been harpin' on Billy & Bernardines' rings (from Sen. McCain's wings), when all along I shouldabeen harpin' on the (CAC) Board of the Rings. Thanks for posting that, Mandy.
Are there rings really from his plane's wings?! That's a sublimated form of aggressive cannibalism. (Thanks, Eli Sagan! I read your book.)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:04:08am |
re: #316 Lucius Septimius
Thought you were also down in Georgia -- oh well.
Only 500 miles from my house to Miguels'! Happy birthday perfesser!
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:04:36am |
re: #318 spidly
hope.....change.....
Hope [I remembered to ] change [the cat litter]
Cuz somethin' sure stinks 'round here.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:04:40am |
re: #318 spidly
There is no hope. Change is inevitable.
/Been reading too much Zen
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:04:43am |
re: #305 loveguru
LOL ........ true, but i want to see... will they enjoy the taste of the medicine they want to enforce on others.... !
basically i am against REligion and politics being merged ... but if they want, then let me defend my religion this time ;)
Are you in Europe?
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MandyManners Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:06:15am |
re: #308 Lucius Septimius
Whose chickens are they coming home to roost?
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legalpad Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:07:13am |
Obama is going to lose. I don't care what the polls say. I thought that before Palin. The stealth vote against a black candidate is a factor. I know a hard-core pro-Hillary, George Bush hater who is praising McCain/Palin. The main thing the Republicans need to watch is the ACORN factor, the voting fraud, etc.
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:07:38am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:07:48am |
Wow! Comments count is 5,912,258 (plus this one!) Somebody get the pool started! I'm an idea guy.
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:09:32am |
re: #325 MandyManners
Thanks -- though I'm feeling a bit cranky myself today in the joints department
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:09:56am |
re: #327 legalpad
Voter fraud? Shirley you jest!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:11:26am |
re: #330 Lucius Septimius
Buddy Ebsen was allergic to the paint. Too bad
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:12:27am |
re: #333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Buddy Ebsen was allergic to the paint. Too bad
That would have been a very different movie with him in there.
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:13:12am |
Good morning Lizards.... morning Lucius....
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Tamron Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:15:03am |
Huh! "Post this comment" didn't work with my above post, somehow.
I was just speculating on how much quantity of 'normal' shipping traffic there is in the international waters just off the coast of Israel. IF a freighter with a questionable radioactive cargo (from Iran, in this case) went chugging up the coast of Israel, I'm curious as to just how close they could get before raising suspicion. Sounds like the plot of a book that I once read.
I forget: Are international waters 12 miles offshore?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:15:09am |
Did we totally miss "Talk Like a Pirate" Day? 9/19/08? Zombie will be really happy if we did.
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:17:28am |
re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think there were some halting efforts, but they were not well received by the hoi polloi.
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:18:00am |
re: #323 MandyManners
Are you in Europe?
yes :( Antiislamic platform here is 80% hijacked by NeoNazis :(
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:18:26am |
re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did we totally miss "Talk Like a Pirate" Day? 9/19/08? Zombie will be really happy if we did.
You might have missed it but loppyd made sure pretty much everyone else knew about it.... yaaar.........
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opnion Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:19:26am |
re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did we totally miss "Talk Like a Pirate" Day? 9/19/08? Zombie will be really happy if we did.
Yaaar, Morning Matie! Ye should have been there. Yaaaar!
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HoosierHoops Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:19:26am |
re: #335 doriangrey
Good morning Lizards.... morning Lucius....
Morning Dorian..coffee is on..Just the house blend today..
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:19:52am |
re: #341 loveguru
yes :( Antiislamic platform here is 80% hijacked by NeoNazis :(
Ugh. So, it's "Haters versus Haters"? So, if you stand against Muslim takeover; you're a Nazi. Great. Betcha just love that.
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:20:02am |
re: #344 HoosierHoops
Morning Dorian..coffee is on..Just the house blend today..
House blend is always good... thx..... ;)
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:20:44am |
The horrors of internet dependency:
[Link: www.geeksaresexy.net...]
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legalpad Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:20:48am |
re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I remember a comment from David Horowitz in his book, "How to Beat The Democrats": He said 10% of the votes for Democrats are fraud. Every time there is some issue like that in the news it is always Democrats. Of course here, we all know these things.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:21:04am |
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:23:48am |
re: #347 scottishbuzzsaw
The horrors of internet dependency:
[Link: www.geeksaresexy.net...]
Good morning Marshmallow.... :)
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:23:55am |
Eight-O'Clock coffee here.
Cafe Bustello at the office.
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Tamron Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:24:42am |
re: #315 Lucius Septimius
From an article in today's WSJ:
Unfortunately for the dems, "cranky" is probably the real Obama insofar as it is a corollary to his narcissism. If people don't respond to his aura the way he thinks they ought to, he seems incapable of any response but to get testy.
The more we see the man behind the curtain, the less attractive he becomes.
But, he still has Michelle to go home to....
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legalpad Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:24:49am |
re: #330 Lucius Septimius
My step-daughter looked exactly like Judy Garland at that age. It was uncanny.
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opnion Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:25:06am |
re: #327 legalpad
Obama is going to lose. I don't care what the polls say. I thought that before Palin. The stealth vote against a black candidate is a factor. I know a hard-core pro-Hillary, George Bush hater who is praising McCain/Palin. The main thing the Republicans need to watch is the ACORN factor, the voting fraud, etc.
There is going to be lots of fraud & voter intimidation by the Obama faithful. It is important for every single pro McCain or just anti Obama voter to show up.
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:25:07am |
re: #351 Lucius Septimius
Eight-O'Clock coffee here.
Cafe Bustello at the office.
You are soooooooo spoiled............
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:25:52am |
re: #350 doriangrey
Good morning Marshmallow.... :)
*sigh* Good morning, dorian...I've lost my curmudgeonly reputation forever, haven't I?
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:26:14am |
re: #352 Tamron
But, he still has Michelle to go home to....
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I guess that would make anyone cranky.... ;O
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:26:32am |
re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ugh. So, it's "Haters versus Haters"? So, if you stand against Muslim takeover; you're a Nazi. Great. Betcha just love that.
whats the difference between Nazis and Islamist ? Nothing ....
anyways neither i am a Blode-Aryan .. nor a Muslim .... in-fact i have shiny-jet-black eyes, hairs ........ that can drive blond women crazy ;)
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:26:43am |
re: #356 scottishbuzzsaw
*sigh* Good morning, dorian...I've lost my curmudgeonly reputation forever, haven't I?
More or less.... ;)
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:27:33am |
re: #358 loveguru
whats the difference between Nazis and Islamist ? Nothing ....
anyways neither i am a Blode-Aryan .. nor a Muslim .... in-fact i have shiny-jet-black eyes, hairs ........ that can drive blond women crazy ;)
Blond women are crazy, so whats your point?
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:28:05am |
re: #355 doriangrey
You are soooooooo spoiled............
I make the coffee -- gotten to the point that I can't drink anyone elses.
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:28:53am |
re: #361 Lucius Septimius
I make the coffee -- gotten to the point that I can't drink anyone elses.
ROTFLMAO................ Like I said...............Soooooooooooooo spoiled....... lol...lol...
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:32:01am |
O/T looks like Dr Rusty of the Jawa Report's expose on Ethan Winner is going completely viral....
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:35:41am |
re: #363 doriangrey
O/T looks like Dr Rusty of the Jawa Report's expose on Ethan Winner is going completely viral....
Groovy!
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BaseballMom57 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:37:01am |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I know - isn't that something? The Clintons are really campaigning hard for Obama, aren't they? First, Clinton gives the "hypothetical" two guys running for president story ("one will do what he says he will do:, etc.) a month or so back, and now this.
I can't remember who said it, but some media dude said he would pay big money to be a fly on the wall of the voting booth when the Clintons cast their ballot, because he suspects they will be secret McCain voters.
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Spenser (with an S) Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:37:55am |
re: #358 loveguru
re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ugh. So, it's "Haters versus Haters"? So, if you stand against Muslim takeover; you're a Nazi. Great. Betcha just love that.
whats the difference between Nazis and Islamist ? Nothing ....
anyways neither i am a Blode-Aryan .. nor a Muslim .... in-fact i have shiny-jet-black eyes, hairs ........ that can drive blond women crazy ;)
Black and white hairs according to your picture :) Seriously, many of us blond Aryans are on your side. Stay cool against both groups of haters, they're loud but we're right!
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:41:59am |
In case you were wondering, this is Why We Drink:
[Link: www.neatorama.com...]
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BaseballMom57 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:42:59am |
re: #351 Lucius Septimius
Dark Roast Yuban or Peets at home....some icky "delivery coffee" at work -I don't drink it. Most times I just stop by a locally owned Italian espresso shop on my way to the office and fill my carafe. My coworkers call me "The Coffee Snob". LOL
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Spenser (with an S) Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:46:10am |
re: #368 BaseballMom57
Dark Roast Yuban or Peets at home....some icky "delivery coffee" at work -I don't drink it. Most times I just stop by a locally owned Italian espresso shop on my way to the office and fill my carafe. My coworkers call me "The Coffee Snob". LOL
We've got some pretty good delivery coffee that's roasted locally but it isn't the same if I don't make it. I like it strong and I use filtered water. Hhmmm... sounds like it's ready, BBIAM.
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opnion Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:47:05am |
Saw on FNC last night an interview with a reporter from the Politico about the Palin email hacking. Greta Van Sustren asked the young reporter who looked not to be too long out of college, if this could just be a prank.
The reporter said, "I never saw anything like that in college." I take that as a no.
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Miss Trixie Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:49:37am |
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday dear Lucius ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you! ♬ ♪
And many moooooooooooooooooore!
:D
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:50:58am |
re: #370 opnion
Saw on FNC last night an interview with a reporter from the Politico about the Palin email hacking. Greta Van Sustren asked the young reporter who looked not to be too long out of college, if this could just be a prank.
The reporter said, "I never saw anything like that in college." I take that as a no.
Yup, it was a prank alright, which is why the imbecile who did it said... "If the fed's ever find out what I've done I will be totally fucked"... Yup, just sound like a prank to me... Nothing to see here.... Move along.....
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:51:49am |
re: #360 doriangrey
Blond women are crazy, so whats your point?
might be that I guessed it wrong, but i think majority of blond womens like black hair men... and majority of black hair women like blond mens....
no idea, i am not a women... what you have to say ?
re: #366 Spenser (with an S)
Black and white hairs according to your picture :) Seriously, many of us blond Aryans are on your side. Stay cool against both groups of haters, they're loud but we're right!
LÖL .............. well basically for me it hardly matter's if my partner has black hair, or blond hair.... anyways you hardly see hairs in darkness of night :p
I think, what matters is the heart , the identity, the personality..... everything can change, everything can lie.... but the heart, the identity, the personality, if one learn those characteristic of partner... then that not only helps for a stable relationship, but also turns a weak bond of attraction into a life-long bond of partnership :) comments?
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:52:14am |
re: #371 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday dear Lucius ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you! ♬ ♪And many moooooooooooooooooore!
:D
Awww so ole Lucius is another day older and deeper in debt eh..... Happy Birthday Lucius....
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Cap'n DOC Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:52:20am |
re: #319 MandyManners
This one has flown somewhat under the radar so to speak.
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opnion Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:52:37am |
re: #372 doriangrey
Yup, it was a prank alright, which is why the imbecile who did it said... "If the fed's ever find out what I've done I will be totally fucked"... Yup, just sound like a prank to me... Nothing to see here.... Move along.....
Dude, he is so right. Like he is soooo totally fucked. I hope
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:52:40am |
Good morning all y'all - from a cool (59 degrees, going up to 78 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:52:52am |
re: #371 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday dear Lucius ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you! ♬ ♪And many moooooooooooooooooore!
:D
where is pie :) pass the cake
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:53:31am |
re: #373 loveguru
LÖL .............. well basically for me it hardly matter's if my partner has black hair, or blond hair.... anyways you hardly see hairs in darkness of night :p
I think, what matters is the heart , the identity, the personality..... everything can change, everything can lie.... but the heart, the identity, the personality, if one learn those characteristic of partner... then that not only helps for a stable relationship, but also turns a weak bond of attraction into a life-long bond of partnership :) comments?
I'm not a woman either, but I think you are projecting......
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:54:14am |
re: #377 realwest
Good morning all y'all - from a cool (59 degrees, going up to 78 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Mornin' studmuffin...;>)...all's well in this here neck of the woods...how about you?
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loveguru Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:54:33am |
re: #379 doriangrey
I'm not a woman either, but I think you are projecting......
well the mum is looking :) where is Red Tulip ?
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:54:54am |
re: #377 realwest
Good morning all y'all - from a cool (59 degrees, going up to 78 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Good morning counselor..... Just another perfect day out here in Paradise... How about yourself....
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opnion Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:55:03am |
re: #375 Cap'n DOC
This one has flown somewhat under the radar so to speak.
Yeah but see, Obama & his people point out the 'Guilt Through Association" thing. I mean you know, don't we all have friends like that?
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:56:14am |
Thanks all. Although I'm not deeper in debt, which these days is no bad thing.
Off to faze the day.
Later, all.
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HoosierHoops Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:56:24am |
re: #377 realwest
Good morning all y'all - from a cool (59 degrees, going up to 78 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Good Morning Realwest..How is it going today?
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:56:30am |
re: #371 {Miss Trixie} Hey, good morning gorgeous! *smooooch* ! You're in fine voice this morning, who are ya singing happy birthday to?
AND, how are you doing?
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:57:11am |
re: #385 Lucius Septimius
Thanks all. Although I'm not deeper in debt, which these days is no bad thing.
Off to faze the day.
Later, all.
Carpi Denim............ (heh heh heh )
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:57:59am |
re: #380 scottishbuzzsaw
LOL studmuffin *snort* I'm doing ok, thank you kindly!
How are you doing today? Y'all got rain or sun?
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:58:05am |
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Lucius Septimius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:58:56am |
re: #388 doriangrey
Carpi Denim............ (heh heh heh )
I do that all the time, but get slapped for doing it.
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:59:28am |
re: #392 Lucius Septimius
I do that all the time, but get slapped for doing it.
ROTFLMAO..... Then ya must be doing it wrong..... ;P
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:59:42am |
re: #383 doriangrey
Hey dorian - sounds like your weather is almost as good as ours! Man it's a truly beautiful day out our way today!
Hope ya got that vette all washed and waxed and looking as good as the day is!
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Miss Trixie Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:59:54am |
re: #387 realwest
Hey, good morning gorgeous! *smooooch* ! You're in fine voice this morning, who are ya singing happy birthday to?
AND, how are you doing?
Morning, Luv *smoochie* It's Lucius' birthday today. :D
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:00:10am |
re: #389 realwest
LOL studmuffin *snort* I'm doing ok, thank you kindly!
How are you doing today? Y'all got rain or sun?
Doing pretty well...gaining strength, though I think I overdid yesterday. Otherwise, life is good...heading up to 83 degrees today with bright sunny skies...yuk.
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:00:24am |
re: #390 Lucius Septimius
Hey Lucius! Happy Birthday to you my friend! And many, many more!
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HoosierHoops Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:00:54am |
re: #393 ploome hineni
and
the house blend or dark roast at Starbucks is usually more authentic than their lattes or whatever else
I like the house blend at Seattles best..
But coffee is like wine..we can all disagree and all still be right.
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:01:23am |
re: #395 realwest
Hey dorian - sounds like your weather is almost as good as ours! Man it's a truly beautiful day out our way today!
Hope ya got that vette all washed and waxed and looking as good as the day is!
Grumble grumble, nope, it's over at the brothers house collecting dust. Cant afford to drive it until after I pay my oral surgeon, got an appointment on the 30th....
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BaseballMom57 Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:02:18am |
re: #381 ploome hineni
ploome - can you buy this stuff online? Sounds really good!
I still maintain most local roasters/coffeehouses are far better than SB. My best friend owns a large amount of SB stock, and it's a friendly argument-starter when I mention drinking anything but.
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Pullus Iulius Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:02:19am |
re: #377 realwest
Good morning to you, Realwest. A beautiful morning here and people are talking about coffee. Life is good.
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:03:07am |
re: #400 doriangrey
Grumble grumble, nope, it's over at the brothers house collecting dust. Cant afford to drive it until after I pay my oral surgeon, got an appointment on the 30th....
Now I know where the 'curmudgeonliness' went...
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:03:41am |
re: #395 realwest
Hey dorian - sounds like your weather is almost as good as ours! Man it's a truly beautiful day out our way today!
Hope ya got that vette all washed and waxed and looking as good as the day is!
Oh and almost as good as your weather.... snort... I live in the Peoples Republic of California Paradise..... We invented perfect weather.... Remember.........
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:04:36am |
re: #386 HoosierHoops
Hey good morning to ya Hoops! Hope you're doing well today! Hey, didja see Peyton Manning on Fox this morning? He was doing a pitch for DirectTV and
the Fox news today or whatever the hell they are called did a "huh" kinda interview with him.
Fox and Friends - knew it'd come to me! Can anyone tell me the names of the three "anchor persons" on that show?
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:04:48am |
re: #403 scottishbuzzsaw
Now I know where the 'curmudgeonliness' went...
Meh.... you'd be grumbling to if you had a beautiful corvette and couldn't afford to put gas in it..... ;P
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:05:11am |
" The surest way to make a Monkey of a man is to quote him"
Excellent timing!
Dinnerjacket will be addressing the U.N.!
Should give us plenty of ammo!
Speaking of AMMO.........
Sorry , my mind wondered off there a moment!
Loader,
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Aussie Stinger Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:06:02am |
This year's UN General Assembly to begin today.
President Bush gives his final speech.
Live here:
[Link: www.un.org...]
Ahmadinejad to address all nations sometime. Here we go again ....
(but I can't find the speakers program!)
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:06:23am |
re: #396 Miss Trixie
Ah yeah, he told me himself and if I'd been awake enough to actually READ what you wrote I'd a known anyway! Anyway, ya didn't answer my other question which is how are you doing today?
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Macker Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:06:40am |
Get to goto the dr. today. Broken big toe on left foot. OWIE.
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:06:45am |
re: #406 realwest
Hey good morning to ya Hoops! Hope you're doing well today! Hey, didja see Peyton Manning on Fox this morning? He was doing a pitch for DirectTV and
the Fox news today or whatever the hell they are called did a "huh" kinda interview with him.Fox and Friends - knew it'd come to me! Can anyone tell me the names of the three "anchor persons" on that show?
Cough cough... did ya see my Chargers beat the living crap out of Farb and his Jet's last night... 48 to 29.... Philip Rivers and company owned the Jets like they were prize toy Poodles....
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realwest Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:08:04am |
re: #397 scottishbuzzsaw
Overdid what? and "heading up to 83 degrees today with bright sunny skies...yuk.", why yuk? Sounds like pretty good weather to me!
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doriangrey Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:08:08am |
Ok Lizards... Off to work with this one.... Must finish my new Government mind control ray device..... ;)
