0bama quotes! We need more 0bama quotes!

Just ask Joe Biden.

I quoted a liberal, and he threw poo at me.

And biden quotes! Like this for example:

Somali pirates hijack Iranian freighter.

And die from mysterious illnesses. Symptoms include skin burns and loss of hair.

/Arggh

Good evening Lizards! How much longer do I have to listen to Dems say that all of these money problems are due to deregulation instead of loaning money to the unqualified. It is getting old, and it is insulting to my intelligence.

re: #1 Sharmuta

0bama quotes! We need more 0bama quotes!

Uh, mmm, ah, ah, mmm, uh...uh... hamina, hamina, hamina...

Nite all. ....And Biden seems to be something of a simpleton. I wonder if it is genetic? Actually I have wondered that for years. Not kidding. Every time he speaks I end up analyzing him, in silence, like he is a museum piece. The awe of a mental deficient rising to national prominence. An idiot that has no sense of embarrassment.

re: #5 RTLM

Yikes.

/wonder what it could be

Hey Sharm - you registered at any of the PUMA sites? They would be a great source (as you said in the previous thread) of soldiers in the web wars.

Don't ask why I was looking it up...but I just found out they are suppose to be releasing a film adaption of the book of "The Kool Aid Acid Test" in 2009.

From the sidebar:

Unknown score written by Mozart found in France
Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:36pm EDT

NANTES, France (Reuters) - A French municipal library has discovered a musical score handwritten by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart in its archives, the Nantes town hall said on Thursday.

The one-page work, donated to the town by a private collector at the end of the 19th century, was until recently thought to be a copy rather than an original.

The unpublished score, measuring 16 cm by 29 cm (6.5 by 11.5 inches), is thought to have been written around 1787, according to an expert musicologist from the Mozarteum university in the composer's native city of Salzburg in Austria.

The score is undergoing a second round of expert investigations, Nantes authorities said.

I'm looking forward to hearing it played in the future. :)

re: #1 Sharmuta

0bama quotes! We need more 0bama quotes!

How about some George Will quotes instead?

Will must have been seriously pissed off by McCain-Feingold. He never missed an opportunity to mention it and to stick it to McCain in doing so.

re: #12 gop_patriot

From the sidebar:

I'm looking forward to hearing it played in the future. :)

Yes, I've not heard any more information about the piece. I'm quite curious.

re: #13 JustMyView

No- we want 0bama quotes. Like this one.

re: #10 Intrepid

Hey Sharm - you registered at any of the PUMA sites? They would be a great source (as you said in the previous thread) of soldiers in the web wars.

I was thinking of registering at one. You in?

The most common Obama quote.........................
Uhhhhh.

Fucking moron.

Doesn't Biden look like a villain in a Batman movie in this photo?
He's the dreaded Index Finger Man!

re: #18 pat

Fucking moron.

You called?

The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.

re: #19 HelloDare

Doesn't Biden look like a villain in a Batman movie in this photo?
He's the dreaded Index Finger Man!

That Biden pic is WAY pre-massiverepeatedbotoxdoses.

re: #21 Sharmuta

The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.

The ravings of a loon.

re: #21 Sharmuta

Yes. And did you notice this guy had to read his lines? Like to remember where he stood? Puppet.
Ayers Puppet.

re: #16 Sharmuta

I was thinking of registering at one. You in?

I'll go in - been thinking to do so. At least at the Hillary Clinton Forum, and maybe at PumaPac.

May not be under the same nic, but I'll show up there.

re: #8 pat

Nite all. ....And Biden seems to be something of a simpleton. I wonder if it is genetic? Actually I have wondered that for years. Not kidding. Every time he speaks I end up analyzing him, in silence, like he is a museum piece. The awe of a mental deficient rising to national prominence. An idiot that has no sense of embarrassment.

Not genetic. Probably result of brain surgeries for aneurysms. Don't know why McCain's camp doesn't make an issue of it. Yes I do. McCain has class. Article at link about surgery in the 80s.

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

re: #13 JustMyView

How about some George Will quotes instead?

Will must have been seriously pissed off by McCain-Feingold. He never missed an opportunity to mention it and to stick it to McCain in doing so.

Good point. I liked Romney in the spring, but we got McCain. So let's go vote for a hateful, moronic communist that wants to surrender our armies to the UN and surrender our free market to federal policymakers, to make sure that we show McCain who's boss.

re: #21 Sharmuta

I was just going to say that it's not Obama's gaffes that are scary, it's when he speaks clearly and we can really understand him. And then you posted that link.

re: #21 Sharmuta

The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.

Dammit, youtube just hangs, no matter what I do. I'll save off the link and watch it later.

re: #25 Intrepid

I was thinking the Hillary Clinton Forum too. I noticed a poster their by the nic "Conservative Chick"- not sure, but it might be the LGF "Conservative Chick".

I think it's a great idea, and frankly- I think John McCain would want us working with friendly rivals to achieve a common purpose- defeating 0bama!

re: #26 merrytexas

Not genetic. Probably result of brain surgeries for aneurysms. Don't know why McCain's camp doesn't make an issue of it. Yes I do. McCain has class. Article at link about surgery in the 80s.

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

I think he may have wet brain from years of hard drinking.

re: #29 cliffster

Didn't you have a question for me?

re: #21 Sharmuta

The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.

You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.

re: #27 cliffster

Good point. I liked Romney in the spring, but we got McCain. So let's go vote for a hateful, moronic communist that wants to surrender our armies to the UN and surrender our free market to federal policymakers, to make sure that we show McCain who's boss.

LMAO!

re: #5 RTLM

Wonder what crap they were going to field test? From locked containers they get what sounds like radiation burns.

re: #29 cliffster

Dammit, youtube just hangs, no matter what I do. I'll save off the link and watch it later.

I run in to a similar problem. It seems to clear up when I close out Firefox and clear private data.

re: #12 gop_patriot

If you are a Mozart fan, then you should have read this book by now.

re: #33 JustMyView

I have an idea for you- how about you turn some of that scrutiny on 0bama?

Like all his waffles, do you?

re: #38 Sharmuta

I have an idea for you- how about you turn some of that scrutiny on 0bama?

Why should I when you are doing such a good job? Somebody has to worry about the other side.

re: #21 Sharmuta

It does. There goes US military defense.

re: #1 Sharmuta

" ... my Muslim faith."
Uh, uhh, uh, umm, uh, as I've said, uh, uh, uh ... (etc, etc.)

Slo-Joe Biden ... you heard if from me before and I attribute the moniker to Hugh Hewitt. America you've been warned. If you liked James Earl Carter and double digit inflation to go along with double digit unemployment, your gonna love ObamUH and Slo-Joe.

Is America really stupid enough to make this a contest? Between NPR and Jay Leno I think I've heard mention of McCain's age 14 times today alone! Give it a rest people. I know a few shooting competitors in their 70's who'll kick your ass on the firing line. Hope I can break 2650 when I'm in my 70's.

re: #27 cliffster

Good point. I liked Romney in the spring, but we got McCain. So let's go vote for a hateful, moronic communist that wants to surrender our armies to the UN and surrender our free market to federal policymakers, to make sure that we show McCain who's boss.

Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama. As for surrendering armies, see Obama's web site, where he says that he wants to increase the size of the Army and the Marines.

re: #30 Sharmuta

I was thinking the Hillary Clinton Forum too. I noticed a poster their by the nic "Conservative Chick"- not sure, but it might be the LGF "Conservative Chick".

I think it's a great idea, and frankly- I think John McCain would want us working with friendly rivals to achieve a common purpose- defeating 0bama!

Just tried to find a way in on the Hillary Clinton Forum - registration is disabled.

But PUMAPac may still be open. They've had some great discussions lately on "race" and this election.

I'm learning that there are scads - dozens! - of PUMA sites out there, full of women and men who will not vote for Barack Obama, no matter what!

I go to some of their sites when I need a bit of an emotional "pick-me-up". They're always working to defeat Obama, in one way or another.

re: #44 Intrepid

Can you access the Lizard Lounge?

re: #1 Sharmuta

Nice name dude, LOL.

Kus-emek.
(joking!)

re: #21 Sharmuta

The 0bama quote that should scare the sh*t out of any thinking American.

The comments for that video will scare the sh*t out of any thinking human. Good Lord.

/The internet has always had loud dumb people, but I've never seen anything quite as bad as the people who comment on YouTube videos

re: #46 Aussie Stinger

I'm not a dude. Kool hara.

/I'm joking too.

re: #35 Rancher

Wonder what crap they were going to field test? From locked containers they get what sounds like radiation burns.

If all this is true to Roggio's information, the boat was headed for the Suez Canal - into the Mediterranean. For what?

The MV Iran Deyanat set sail from Nanjing, China, at the end of July and, according to its manifest, planned to travel to Rotterdam, where it would unload 42,500 tons of iron ore and "industrial products" purchased by a German client. Its arrival in the Gulf of Aden, Somali officials tell The Long War Journal, was suspiciously early. According to a publicly available status report on the IRISL Web site, the ship reached the Gulf on August 20 and was scheduled to reach the Suez Canal on August 27 - a seven day journey. "Depending on the speed of the ship," Puntland Minister of Ports Ahmed Siad Nur said in a phone interview on Saturday, "it should take between 4 and 5 days to reach Suez."

Seems any uranium on an Iranian ship would be heading toward Iran.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him.

— Robert Benchley

Monkey man!

re: #32 Sharmuta

Didn't you have a question for me?

True - Slow overnight thread right? Background (trying to make a long story short) - I have observed, in my family and friends' families around me, little girls who are very outwardly gifted when they are very young, go on to struggle as they got into high school and college. Specifically, being pretty clearly analytical and good at math, then later not being good at/showing interest in math and sciences later on.

It seems to me something programmed into our cultural milieu, or rather that of the human race as a whole, that wants to tell girls they need to go do something else, leave this engineering/science/other-analytical-study thing to the boys.

Now I've got a little girl, she's 2 1/2, and she's unbelievably sharp. I just wonder how to keep that spirit alive, how to make sure she tells the messages sent by society to go to hell. Because there's so much that's out of my hands, and so much that's entrenched in the way we live as a whole that wants to keep her from being all she can be.

Or I should say be all she wants to be, because I want her to do whatever she wants. I just want to make sure that "whatever she wants" remains as open to her as it should.

Historically Black colleges
Affirmative action hiring and scholarships
Minority set asides for government contracts
NAACP
Black Caucus
La Raza
What a Racist Country! No wonder Obama is going to lose.

re: #51 cliffster

Anyways, forgive me if I assume to much ;)

re: #33 JustMyView

You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.

Wow -- requiring the Defense Department to operate with cost-efficiency -- downright anti-American.

The difference is that I trust that McCain will ensure that the Defense Department will be capable of fulfilling its various missions to defend the United States, whereas I believe Obama doesn't actually care about that. An Obama presidency would be Bill Clinton's abject failure in Somalia writ large -- and it wouldn't be just a score of Army Rangers that would pay the price.

re: #33 JustMyView

You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.

What McCain did was not to slow or gut the program as Obama is proposing. CBS is repeating the Angry Left's talking points.

re: #37 rawmuse

I haven't, but I am sure I'd enjoy it. Think I'll check our local library before buying, to see if they have it.

Thanks! :)

re: #49 RTLM

Seems any uranium on an Iranian ship would be heading toward Iran.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Ummmm...

... what would happen if the Suez Canal were the site of an unfortunate radiation leakage event (as in a dirty bomb)?

re: #39 JustMyView

Why should I when you are doing such a good job? Somebody has to worry about the other side.

Yikes! Your guy flip flops all over the place - from his stance on issues in the Primary to his stance now, which is notably to the middle - and you don't even question it?

Dang, you must really love Barack Obama. Even though he's changed his positions about any number of things. Including:

* The Surge in Iraq - "NO, NO!", but in an interview with Bill O'Reilly, "It was a resounding success".

* Rescinding Bush Tax Cuts - "Maybe we'll have to wait".

* Tax cuts for 95% of population - "Maybe we'll have to wait".

* Undivided Jerusalem - "May have to negotiate with Palistinians".

* Negotiating - no pre-conditions - with Iran - No, we may have to have some.

Your guy is a loser and can't grab his ass with both hands! He takes a position that sounds good to him, but when the "real world" pops up, he has to change his views.

Good morning nightshift!

Monday is my TV night, and tonight was the first good one in a while.
Watching the newest exciting episode of the Sarah Connor Chronicals, I started to wonder. Has anyone else noticed the parallels between Sic-’em Sarah Connor and our own Sic-’em Sarah Palin?

Courageous, principled Sarah,
Both good looking, hard loving moms.
Both value ALL human life, even those with different agendas.
Both proficient in many types of weaponry.
Both are standing up to an evil that thinks of human life as a blight/parasite on the planet
Both must battle deceptive and elaborate plots to defeat her.
Both have been attacked by established powers as being dangerous and even insane .
Both realize to prevent evil from spreading, you have to fight hard for good,
Never blinking.

I like that.

re: #43 JustMyView

Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama.

Agreed, but I'm interested in hearing what you mean exactly by that.

As for surrendering armies, see Obama's web site, where he says that he wants to increase the size of the Army and the Marines.

He also wants to give everyone extra money to pay for high gas prices, give more grants to small business, give everyone money to go to whatever college they want, give everyone the absolute best health care available... get the point?

#43 JustMyView

Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama...

How about if your libs take responsibility for their greed and their mismanagement of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac during the Clinton years? The libs were in charge all the way up until now, not the conservatives. And the chickens have come home to roost. True to form, however, they are blaming and pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. But that's to be expected.

'night all...

re: #45 Sharmuta

Can you access the Lizard Lounge?

Yes ma'am. I'll jump in.....

(dives into the lounge)

re: #43 JustMyView

As for surrendering armies, see Obama's web site, where he says that he wants to increase the size of the Army and the Marines.

He'll need to, if he's going to mount his planned invasion of Pakistan.

re: #58 Intrepid

Dang, you must really love Barack Obama. Even though he's changed his positions about any number of things. Including:

* The Surge in Iraq - "NO, NO!", but in an interview with Bill O'Reilly, "It was a resounding success".

* Rescinding Bush Tax Cuts - "Maybe we'll have to wait".

* Tax cuts for 95% of population - "Maybe we'll have to wait".

* Undivided Jerusalem - "May have to negotiate with Palistinians".

* Negotiating - no pre-conditions - with Iran - No, we may have to have some.

Your guy is a loser and can't grab his ass with both hands! He takes a position that sounds good to him, but when the "real world" pops up, he has to change his views.

You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?

* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"

That's a start.

re: #47 gop_patriot

The comments for that video will scare the sh*t out of any thinking human. Good Lord.

/The internet has always had loud dumb people, but I've never seen anything quite as bad as the people who comment on YouTube videos

If you impale a Youtube commenter with a javelin and throw them in a pool, they'll point to Magnetic Stupid. True fact!***

*** not really true or verifiable, but worth doing anyway.

re: #56 gop_patriot

It is the collected letters of anyone having anything to do with Mozart. His parents, himself. It begins with his parents marveling at their amazing offspring and ends with his mother begging the King of Prussia for enough money to bury him, which she did not get. An amazing collection.

re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor

LOL! Sometimes I entertain myself by dinging down YouTube comments. Doesn't accomplish much, but it makes me feel better. X)

re: #51 cliffster

Yes- girls are discouraged to follow through on math and science. Were I to have a daughter, I would get her engineering toys as a starting point. There are many varieties these days. I would get her involved in tools and fixing stuff. I would get her lots of science books. Puzzles, analytical toys and games- things like that.

I would also allow her her femininity. Sewing, cooking- these too require math skills. Let her be a girl, but teach her she can be anything and the boys can't hold her back and not to let the girls hold her back either. The lessons of this election should show us that women's sexism can and does impact other women just as much as the sexism of men.

re: #43 JustMyView

Actually, President Bush and the Secretary of the Treasury are doing a pretty good job of inserting the government into the free market w/o any help at all from Obama.

What do you expect from a man who did this:

"On the legal front, the Washington Post reported just last week (May 2006) that Goldman Sachs participated in transactions with scandal-ridden Fannie Mae that "that improperly pushed $107 million of Fannie Mae earnings into future years. The aim, [said federal regulators], was always the same: To shape the company's books, not in response to accepted accounting rules but in a way that made it appear that the company had reached earnings targets, thus triggering the maximum possible payout for executives..." Goldman Sachs CEO? Paulson.

[Link: www.mydd.com...]

re: #58 Intrepid

I think Obama is totally unprepared for campaigning in the YouTube era. Before YouTube, it was perfectly feasible to deliver one message to one audience and then deliver the opposite message to another audience, and expect that the two audiences would never compare notes.

But today, if you tell Muslim-American groups one thing and Jewish-American groups another, the two messages can appear side-by-side on blogs of both groups. You can't get away with going to the Knesset and talk about an undivided Jerusalem and then go to Muslim and Arab and pro-Palestinian leftist groups and tell them you weren't serious. You can't say you never supported infanticide and expect that people won't hear the justification you gave when you cast four votes against born-alive infant protections. You can't talk about your wonderful Christian pastor and not expect that his racist, anti-Semitic and anti-American rants won't become universally known.

re: #64 JustMyView

You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?

* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"

That's a start.

You equate gradual shifts in position (McCain) - to holding different and opposing views simultaneously (Obama).

What view Obama holds is only dictated by what group he's presently pandering to.

He is a whore.

re: #48 Sharmuta

I'm not a dude. Kool hara.

/I'm joking too.

Right, right, the icon pic.

Sorry!

re: #64 JustMyView

* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them

He admits he was wrong

* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win

Doesn't even merit response

* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it

Supply and demand - supply curve moved enough to the right that we need to change the approach.

* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"

Said he listened to his constituents and they said he was wrong. How's that for a politician.

Now, have a listen at BO's response when asked to please, pretty please, just admit you were wrong about the surge.

re: #64 JustMyView

You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?

* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"

That's a start.

Except that in each case, he ended up on the right side of the issue.

And his pick of Palin represents a marvelous investment in the future of America -- her position as VP will launch her toward a presidential run at the end of his Presidency.

re: #19 HelloDare

Doesn't Biden look like a villain in a Batman movie in this photo?
He's the dreaded Index Finger Man!

the Up-Pointer

Answering the question ,"What's up"? without the chance of a misstatement

re: #61 ladycatnip

#43 JustMyView

How about if your libs take responsibility for their greed and their mismanagement of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac during the Clinton years? The libs were in charge all the way up until now, not the conservatives. And the chickens have come home to roost. True to form, however, they are blaming and pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. But that's to be expected.

'night all...

GWB has been president for eight years; Republicans controlled Congress for six of those eight years. The heads of the regulatory agencies were appointed by Republicans. Like Obama, McCain has taken lots of money from the financial sector.

The Dems may not have entirely clean hands, but they are hardly alone in that respect.

re: #68 Sharmuta

She's got tons of counting toys, puzzles, etc. And she's also all girl - she screams when we won't let her wear a dress. Thanks much for your advice, and here's hoping for the best!

re: #67 gop_patriot

LOL! Sometimes I entertain myself by dinging down YouTube comments. Doesn't accomplish much, but it makes me feel better. X)

I would feel better with a "Mark for Termination" instead of just a "ding down". I suppose I just have sick fantasies about being Skynet, instead of the Resistance...

/sends out the T-800s

John McCain writes an op-ed piece in The Australian newspaper today.

(online version here):
[Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]

Addressing foreign policy, he speaks in regards to the US - Australia alliance, also touches on cooperation with US allies in Asia.

Honestly, .... what does Obama know on any of this stuff.

re: #66 rawmuse

I am definitely interested. :) My parents bought me a book of Tolkien's letters one Christmas, and I have enjoyed it immensely.

good night people

re: #51 cliffster

Or I should say be all she wants to be, because I want her to do whatever she wants. I just want to make sure that "whatever she wants" remains as open to her as it should.

There are lots of books on this topic. Might want to take a look at some of these. Also lots of fascinating research on the web. Just google "girls math and science".

re: #64 JustMyView

You know, don't you, that one could make a similar list about McCain in only a few seconds, right?

* Against the Bush tax cuts before he was against them
* Opposed to evangelical "agents of intolerance" before he had to suck up to them to win
* Opposed to offshore drilling before he was for it
* In favor of comprehensive immigration reform until he became "enforcement first"

That's a start.

First two - he's stuck to his guns regarding tax cuts, no matter the consequences. Second, he got an endorsement that he subsequently rejected. Yet he did not spent almost 20 years in the man's church.

When will we see Barack Obama come out and unequivocally reject "Black Liberation Theology"? He sat in that church for almost two decades, was married in that church, had his children baptised there and had them sit through most of their lives listening to that indoctrination.

He changed his mind about offshore drilling - GOOD FOR HIM! Not a minus at all.

His immigration stance is what most conservatives fault him for. He's for a form of amnesty that most conservatives don't want, yet he's still for it.

You show me one instance in which Barack Obama has stood against the democrats during his Senate career. One instance. He's been a party man all along. Or he hasn't voted. Much easier to skip out, I guess.

It's a contest between a "Party Man" and a "Maverick". Guess who most of America wants?

re: #82 JustMyView

There are lots of books on this topic. Might want to take a look at some of these. Also lots of fascinating research on the web. Just google "girls math and science".

Thanks for your references in spite of differences on, well, lots of other topics :)

re: #42 Clubsec

Is America really stupid enough to make this a contest?

Oh yes. I plan to take on alot of debt. Only way to stay ahead of ranaway inflation.

re: #77 cliffster

My cousin's little girl is the same way. Wants to wear a dress every day. My cousin has also turned to books that reinforce her view of breaking down gender stereotypes. I'm not sure what they are, but she told me about one where the princess joins a tournament in secret and wins. Kind of like a Mulan thing. I'd look into that as well- books that reinforce that she can be whatever she puts her little mind to!

re: #81 winston06

Good night, Winston.

re: #79 Aussie Stinger

John McCain writes an op-ed piece in The Australian newspaper today.

(online version here):
[Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]

Addressing foreign policy, he speaks in regards to the US - Australia alliance, also touches on cooperation with US allies in Asia.

Honestly, .... what does Obama know on any of this stuff.

I suspect he is as able to find a staffer to write an article on this topic as McCain was. You don't think McCain wrote this, do you? If so, you might want to check out this witty little piece about how articles by candidates get written.

I'm not saying McCain doesn't know a lot about the world. I think he does. But this article is not proof of it. He is campaigning full-time and preparing for a nationally televised debate at the end of the week. I doubt he has a lot of time to craft detailed op-eds. As the paper says, Obama has been invited to submit something, and, I suspect such an article will, indeed, appear shortly, also making reference to the topics you mention.

re: #84 cliffster

Thanks for your references in spite of differences on, well, lots of other topics :)

You're very welcome! Best wishes to you and your daughter. Really, I think the key to growing great kids is watching to see what they are good at and helping that along. Aren't we all happiest when we are doing what we do best?

re: #86 Sharmuta

My cousin's little girl is the same way. Wants to wear a dress every day. My cousin has also turned to books that reinforce her view of breaking down gender stereotypes. I'm not sure what they are, but she told me about one where the princess joins a tournament in secret and wins. Kind of like a Mulan thing. I'd look into that as well- books that reinforce that she can be whatever she puts her little mind to!

Sounds a lot like Free to Be You and Me. I keep that one around for the occasional "remember they're human too" smack.

I also suggest Affirmation.

/blog pimp

re: #86 Sharmuta

One of my daughter's favorite books is The Paper Bag Princess.

:)

re: #88 JustMyView

Yet you attribute every slightly good word coming out of the Obama campaign as being from THE ONE.

You're such a hypocrit, JMV. You haven't answered my post above questioning Obama's changed positions, and you probably won't. Because the only answer is that he has flip flopped in order to move to the center.

He's a fraud, and a sham.

Just a quick post about this fun story:

Young John McCain, when a Middie during a Port of Call in Rio de Janeiro, had a fling with a sexy blonde Brazilian model, seen here 50 years later.

He was Tom Brady, before Tom Brady was cool.

For those who woot, it's a woot-off!

[Link: www.woot.com...]

re: #86 Sharmuta

re: #89 JustMyView

Kids are fantastic and scary. You want to teach them but you don't want to make them newer versions of yourself. You want to encourage them but you don't want to push them too hard. You want to make them feel good about themselves but you don't want to be the reason they lack discipline.

And all this goes for your own kids, and to a little lesser degree other kids that you're around a lot.

re: #92 Intrepid

And by this I mean: tell me when Obama has gone against the democrat party in any piece of legislation. Any.

Show me where he has proven himself as one who bucks against his party.

And by "Party", I mean Democrat, the one that has gotten us into this crisis with Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Because honestly, John McCain and the republicans have been trying for years to offer some regulations to stem the tide, yet the democrats have blocked it every time.

re: #93 vbspurs

Just a quick post about this fun story:

Young John McCain, when a Middie during a Port of Call in Rio de Janeiro, had a fling with a sexy blonde Brazilian model, seen here 50 years later.

He was Tom Brady, before Tom Brady was cool.

Charming story! How did you happen across this article?

re: #88 JustMyView

I suspect he is as able to find a staffer to write an article on this topic as McCain was. You don't think McCain wrote this, do you? If so, you might want to check out this witty little piece about how articles by candidates get written.

I'm not saying McCain doesn't know a lot about the world. I think he does. But this article is not proof of it. He is campaigning full-time and preparing for a nationally televised debate at the end of the week. I doubt he has a lot of time to craft detailed op-eds. As the paper says, Obama has been invited to submit something, and, I suspect such an article will, indeed, appear shortly, also making reference to the topics you mention.

__________________________________________________ _______

I hear what u're saying, and it sounds pretty plausible.
(Unless McCain wrote the piece a while ago and had it embargoed till now)

McCain has a long link back to Australia, going back to his dad for starters.

Not to mention policy parallels.

[Link: www.lowyinterpreter.org...]

He surely would have at least given the piece a once over or perusal?
(since he is giving his name to it)

It'd suck to learn that some staffer or floosy writes his stuff for him on a whim like this. People here in Australia wake up in the morning, open this particular national newspaper, and I assume would expect it to be at least a little honest!

Okay, my system just got an upgrade to some leading-edge (but not bleeding-edge) programs, and I must say the first impression of Firefox 3 is pretty good. Too soon to be "excellent", but definitely something noteworthy.

re: #93 vbspurs

Wow- she was quite the stunning lady in her day.

re: #93 vbspurs

He was a good looking young man, and she was a classic beauty.

re: #97 JustMyView

Charming story! How did you happen across this article?

By merest coincidence, I had just described a Carnival party at the Rio Yacht Club which I attended as a teen. I was searching for info, and up this story popped in Google News!

Did you read the bit where the model had to buy a book of kissing, because he was such a good kisser? That is so TMI, but great!

re: #6 rawmuse

Good evening Lizards! How much longer do I have to listen to Dems say that all of these money problems are due to deregulation instead of loaning money to the unqualified. It is getting old, and it is insulting to my intelligence.

untill you have no intelligence left to insult?

/just a swag....... %-)

That's what are then.
A barrel full of monkeys!.. Loved that game..

re: #88 JustMyView

Isn't it a bit more plausible that McCain dictated the rough outline and a staffer wrote it based on Senator MCCain's instructions?

re: #100 Sharmuta

Wow- she was quite the stunning lady in her day.

Very much. In the photos today, you can still see traces of the wowser she must've been.

She kinda reminds me on the girl Tom Jobim and Vinicius de Morais wrote, in Girl from Ipanema (Heloisa Paes Pinto, seen next to her daughter).

re: #101 HD Woman

He was a good looking young man, and she was a classic beauty.

He was very good-looking. Better than either of his sons today, IMHO. Jack looks uncannily like Tom Cruise in Top Gun though (not sure that's good or bad).

re: #1 Sharmuta

AHA! I knew I'd seen this recently.
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

re: #102 vbspurs

By merest coincidence, I had just described a Carnival party at the Rio Yacht Club which I attended as a teen. I was searching for info, and up this story popped in Google News!

Did you read the bit where the model had to buy a book of kissing, because he was such a good kisser? That is so TMI, but great!

That's what we need around here - a president that knows how to kiss.

re: #109 cliffster

That's what we need around here - a president that knows how to kiss.

LOL! ...how come one never hears of Obama's girlfriends? He wasn't terribly randy, was he? Too much the bookworm.

re: #107 vbspurs

Yep, he was "Ronald Reagan in his Lifeguard uniform" handsome!

re: #102 vbspurs

Did you read the bit where the model had to buy a book of kissing, because he was such a good kisser? That is so TMI, but great!

Yes, I did see that. Very funny.

re: #29 cliffster

Dammit, youtube just hangs, no matter what I do. I'll save off the link and watch it later.

doenload the removal tool from adobe and clear your player, then reload with the adobe flash player 10 beta. end of problem, most likely

re: #110 vbspurs

LOL! ...how come one never hears of Obama's girlfriends? He wasn't terribly randy, was he? Too much the bookworm.

And before that, smoked too much dope

re: #111 HD Woman

Yep, he was "Ronald Reagan in his Lifeguard uniform" handsome!

SWOON.

His hair hadn't darkened yet, after puberty. He was still bleached blond by the sun. Anyway..........

re: #110 vbspurs

I did hear something about an old boyfriend.... but he wasn't bragging about O's kissing.

re: #116 HD Woman

I did hear something about an old boyfriend.... but he wasn't bragging about O's kissing.

Now, now...back to Reagan. HAWT.

O likes to do it in a car evidently, surprising for one so tall.

re: #98 Aussie Stinger

I'd wager that if you sat McCain and Obama down and gave each a test on the articles they'd supposedly written, McCain would score rather higher on what was published in his name than Obama would on what was published in his. And McCain's writers have more material to work with in terms of McCain's past policy statements and proposals.

re: #105 HD Woman

Isn't it a bit more plausible that McCain dictated the rough outline and a staffer wrote it based on Senator MCCain's instructions?

I think either could be true. Presumably, he has "area experts" (i.e., experts in various regions) who would know what to say. And, to Aussie Stinger, I wouldn't presume to say what the details of the internal process are, except that a task like this would go to a staffer/advisor in some way. Whether and in what form it would come back to McCain for approval I couldn't say.

But i want to be clear that, by saying McCain likely did very little of the writing of this piece, I'm not disparaging McCain in this area. I do think he knows a lot about history, the rest of the world, defense alliances and such.

re: #51 cliffster

True -

Now I've got a little girl, she's 2 1/2, and she's unbelievably sharp. I just wonder how to keep that spirit alive, how to make sure she tells the messages sent by society to go to hell. Because there's so much that's out of my hands, and so much that's entrenched in the way we live as a whole that wants to keep her from being all she can be.

.

Encourage her interests, protect her from poison minds. My daughter was, fortunately, encouraged to take advanced math and science classes in high school. She continued on to a degree in Applied Science. Girls / women are capable of doing whatever they choose to take on. If the choice involves heavy lifting, they find a way to accomplish it. Same with any other "challenge."

re: #117 vbspurs

LRFH Yeah, much better mental picture! :)

re: #118 HD Woman

O likes to do it in a car evidently, surprising for one so tall.

Hmm, given this conversational turn, I think it's time for some z's :^)

Catch yall later..

re: #123 cliffster

Hmm, given this conversational turn, I think it's time for some z's :^)

Catch yall later..

Me too...ciao. :)

My apologies

It's a sick and twisted world, and I'm easily amused.
Again my apologies for any offense, I'm not a homophobe, it was just the only thing that fit that catagory of things past.

Denis Leary on Craig Ferguson tonight.

...don't think Mandy's still up.

He's hillarious

re: #126 HD Woman

I was wondering what you were apologizing for. :) I'm sure everyone knew you were just joking and meant no offense. I did, anyway. Of course, I have an 18 year old son... LOL

re: #100 Sharmuta

Wow- she was quite the stunning lady in her day.

He had his Brazilian cutie, I had my Russian hottie.

re: #129 gop_patriot
I don't think it's my imagination that at least 2 people logged off because of my comments. See 123 & 124

We have 2 @ 19 yrs and one 22 yrs. They definitely affect your sense of humor.

re: #131 HD Woman

I don't think it's my imagination that at least 2 people logged off because of my comments. See 123 & 124

Nah, it's not because of your comments. Sometimes it happens. If your comments were truly "bad", you'd have gotten some flack for them.

After all, you didn't post anything about a goat or any other animal!

All's well, HD. No fret.

re: #131 HD Woman

Oh, hmmm... I didn't read them that way, I thought they were just leaving anyway and just used it as an exit. But who knows. :)

/you didn't offend me, at any rate. not after some of the things the guys have said around here. LOLOL

re: #130 victor_yugo

He had his Brazilian cutie, I had my Russian hottie.

I'm proud to be an American Babe.

re: #5 RTLM

Somali pirates hijack Iranian freighter.

And die from mysterious illnesses. Symptoms include skin burns and loss of hair.

/Arggh

Symptoms of radiation poisoning, eh wot?

I'm off to bed - Weet dreams!

re: #134 gop_patriot
Super Cool! Usually I just say what I think and damn the consequenses, but I'm fairly new to posting here, soooo ya know

re: #137 Intrepid

Me too, it's almost 3am! Yikes.

Goodnight y'all.

re: #131 HD Woman

I don't think it's my imagination that at least 2 people logged off because of my comments. See 123 & 124

never apologize: it's a sign of weakness, especially here on the LNDT.

re: #136 Alberta Oil Peon

Symptoms of radiation poisoning, eh wot?

The more I think about it the less sense I think it makes to bomb Iran's nuke facilities. The only long-term solution is regime change. Go all the way or don't go at all.

re: #138 HD Woman

I'm way more cautious here than I am in real life.

The idea of getting down-dinged really disturbs me. X)

re: #135 Sharmuta

I'm proud to be an American Babe.

got pictures?

/white smoke

re: #135 Sharmuta
I'm proud to be an American Woman, but I can still remember my Babe days! LOL

re: #141 moe katz

The more I think about it the less sense I think it makes to bomb Iran's nuke facilities. The only long-term solution is regime change. Go all the way or don't go at all.

late night Stealth strikes to hit all major transport choke points, cutting the nation into discreet, non-connected chunks, followed up by taking out all telecommunication assets, including all replacement transmitters via HARM. cut the government off from the people, and leave only satellite TV as an info source. ... then flood the airwaves.

re: #142 gop_patriot

That's the way a lot of people are, I went to a VBMO party in KS once and it was amazing seeing the aggressive/passive flip in person, and it went both ways.

re: #136 Alberta Oil Peon

Symptoms of radiation poisoning, eh wot?

sounds like it..... or maybe blister agent leakage.

re: #143 redc1c4

got pictures?

/white smoke

Of course.

/Doesn't mean I'm sharing them. ;p

re: #145 redc1c4

late night Stealth strikes to hit all major transport choke points, cutting the nation into discreet, non-connected chunks, followed up by taking out all telecommunication assets, including all replacement transmitters via HARM. cut the government off from the people, and leave only satellite TV as an info source. ... then flood the airwaves.

Sounds good to me, though I'm not a military expert.... I think they have contingency plans to target the Republican Guards (no relation to the GOP so far as I know)

re: #148 Sharmuta

Of course.

/Doesn't mean I'm sharing them. ;p

Awwww

So, laid down at 6PM (EST). Just needed a quick catnap. 4AM, now awake for the day. Guess 10 hours of sleep was enough.

re: #140 redc1c4

Hey red.. Bartenders meeting in the morning. Whole new martini menu from the "beverage consultant". I gave him your list, but not sure if even one will be on it. Still holding out for the HD flat screen, but not holding my breath. Might have to hold my tongue though.

re: #144 HD Woman

I bet you still got it.

re: #140 redc1c4

I don't accept that. It take much more strength of character to apologize for an offense, even if only perceived, I will try to acknowledge their feelings. I still think it was funny, even if a disgusting visual.

LOL actually from what I've read here, my real surprise was that someone didn't beat me to typing it.

re: #149 moe katz

Sounds good to me, though I'm not a military expert.... I think they have contingency plans to target the Republican Guards (no relation to the GOP so far as I know)

why strike military targets when you can cut the autocratic government ofdf from it';s already unhappy and restive populace, and the bosses off from their masters in Tehran...... you're thinking 20th Century war, i'm going 21st.

why go force on force when you can judo them?

Are the Hannity/Palin interviews up online yet?

re: #152 Mel Lono

Hey red.. Bartenders meeting in the morning. Whole new martini menu from the "beverage consultant". I gave him your list, but not sure if even one will be on it. Still holding out for the HD flat screen, but not holding my breath. Might have to hold my tongue though.

the bastard will likely get a promotion and a bonus off of what was private between you and me.... is it too late for him to fall into King harbor? %-)

re: #155 redc1c4

why strike military targets when you can cut the autocratic government ofdf from it';s already unhappy and restive populace, and the bosses off from their masters in Tehran...... you're thinking 20th Century war, i'm going 21st.

why go force on force when you can judo them?

I don't normally comment on military matters in order not to make a fool of myself. But what you suggest sounds like a good beginning, what you'd do before putting boots on the ground. I don't think you could change the regime without troops there.

re: #154 HD Woman

I don't accept that. It take much more strength of character to apologize for an offense, even if only perceived, I will try to acknowledge their feelings. I still think it was funny, even if a disgusting visual.

LOL actually from what I've read here, my real surprise was that someone didn't beat me to typing it.

then you are arguing with John Wayne..... are you sure you want to go there?

There are major segments of that society that support the regime and they're the best armed. The army elite belongs to the Ayatollahs.

re: #153 Sharmuta

Thank you lady, still got it, still know what to do with it. ;)

c4 - I sure like the way you think

re: #156 rorschach

Are the Hannity/Palin interviews up online yet?

youtube, I believe.

re: #156 rorschach

I think the video was posted over at Hot Air yesterday.

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Hi, KT! How's your trip going?

re: #158 Moe Katz

I don't normally comment on military matters in order not to make a fool of myself. But what you suggest sounds like a good beginning, what you'd do before putting boots on the ground. I don't think you could change the regime without troops there.

if the country was stable, you'd likely be right, but it's not: it's an autocratic collection of thugs trying to keep the lid on an unhappy populace. cut it up into sections (the geography helps), destroy the governments C3I and ability to influence the population, and encourage dissent that already exists via satellite TV, and by taking out any reserve transmitters the govt pops up with, along with the occasional night time stealth raid on targets of opportunity in support of uprisings.

don't mention anything, don't claim anything, just do it and sit back and watch what happens....... "We're as surprised as anyone at the breadth and power of the opposition in Iran..."

re: #159 redc1c4

Yep, just call me Mattie Ross

re: #165 redc1c4

Red, I think you underestimate the support the regime has, and how that would grow if the country was invaded.

Off to bed, anyway. Goodnight all.

re: #160 Moe Katz

There are major segments of that society that support the regime and they're the best armed. The army elite belongs to the Ayatollahs.

true, but if they are cut off from orders, and can't move around the country, what good are they? how long will said allegiance last? will they kill their own citizens without orders?

re: #167 Moe Katz

Red, I think you underestimate the support the regime has, and how that would grow if the country was invaded.

Off to bed, anyway. Goodnight all.

that's why i'm not advocating invasion...... where did i ever mention troops?

re: #168 redc1c4

true, but if they are cut off from orders, and can't move around the country, what good are they? how long will said allegiance last? will they kill their own citizens without orders?

I think they'd manage, despite disrupted communications. Goodnight again.

re: #166 HD Woman

Yep, just call me Mattie Ross

well, at least you have true grit.

(get a helmet with a face shield. %-)

re: #157 redc1c4

the bastard will likely get a promotion and a bonus off of what was private between you and me.... is it too late for him to fall into King harbor? %-)

My apologies for sharing state secrets. Was only trying to get some recognition for new thinking etc.
thinking about someway to blackmail the bastard though.

re: #170 Moe Katz

I think they'd manage, despite disrupted communications. Goodnight again.

cite or reasons for said belief?

re: #164 Sharmuta

Very nice. We've had a bit of rain here lately but it doesn't bother me much. I'm perfectly happy to stay inside and read. My rental house came with a rent-a-cat who I've named Maury. The house is right on a little bay where the local fishermen bring in their catch every afternoon. I can just go out when a boat shows up and buy some fish. Maury likes to eat the heads, skull and all. It's pretty impressive.

re: #168 redc1c4

true, but if they are cut off from orders, and can't move around the country, what good are they? how long will said allegiance last? will they kill their own citizens without orders?

Yes. You are talking about a regime that has police on the streets making sure young people don't hold hands. Religious totalitarians would rather kill than lose control.

re: #165 redc1c4

"We're as surprised as anyone at the breadth and power of the opposition in Iran..."

"We're as surprised as anyone at the breadth and scope of plane crashes in Iran"

/seriously....that shit happens alot- even without our intervention.

re: #172 Mel Lono

My apologies for sharing state secrets. Was only trying to get some recognition for new thinking etc.
thinking about someway to blackmail the bastard though.

credit to a little person? like *that* would ever happen........

no worries on the data, i got it off the intrewebs and it's still out there, likely in various different versions. for our revenge, we can scan his recipes, and on the off chance he has a new one, take it viral ala the Palin ads.....

What ever happened to the tornado of comparisons between Iraq and Vietnam by Media and Democrats? Shhh! The silence is deafening!

re: #177 redc1c4

Already seen the proofs. Not impressed/

re: #178 Egfrow

What ever happened to the tornado of comparisons between Iraq Iran and Vietnam by Media and Democrats? Shhh! The silence is deafening!

Did I get that right?

re: #171 redc1c4

No helmet ever! You'll find I'm pretty hard headed, and I don't mind a few bugs in my teeth.

re: #175 HD Woman

Yes. You are talking about a regime that has police on the streets making sure young people don't hold hands. Religious totalitarians would rather kill than lose control.

the problem with power like that is once the people realize the weakness of it, they can and do rise up against it. Without the ability to call for back up or directions, the thugs are doomed. take out the C3I and the interior LOC's and the government runs out of options real quick, especially after the first few revolts hit the satellites and the other areas see what's going on. remember the fall of Albania and the rest of the Warsaw Pact?

re: #181 HD Woman

No helmet ever! You'll find I'm pretty hard headed, and I don't mind a few bugs in my teeth.

got your donor card filled out?

/practical

re: #182 redc1c4

the problem with power like that is once the people realize the weakness of it, they can and do rise up against it. Without the ability to call for back up or directions, the thugs are doomed. take out the C3I and the interior LOC's and the government runs out of options real quick, especially after the first few revolts hit the satellites and the other areas see what's going on. remember the fall of Albania and the rest of the Warsaw Pact?

The thugs are only doomed if they have less bullets than people in that particular area. I do believe there would be serious revolt in areas around colleges, in other areas, I'm more dubious

And if you've knocked out infastructure, they might not be able to get that information. Does sound nice though. I remember the Iranian revolution, and so do lots of Iranians. No one came to help them, in time or otherwise.

re: #184 HD Woman

The thugs are only doomed if they have less bullets than people in that particular area. I do believe there would be serious revolt in areas around colleges, in other areas, I'm more dubious

history indicates otherwise, but it's late and i've got a meeting at my city councilman's office in the am. they are talking about creating a park in my area, and the local reps are two real estate agents and a contractor, plus the local liberal politician groupie who told me "i don't care what they do, as long as they do something."..... needless to say, i don't agree, so i'm showing up and doing my 500# gorilla imitation.

L8r! hasta, y'all................

re: #183 redc1c4

got your donor card filled out?

/practical

LRH! Nope! That much I CAN take with me.

re: #186 redc1c4

Good luck. Give em hell.

re: #185 HD Woman

And if you've knocked out infastructure, they might not be able to get that information. Does sound nice though. I remember the Iranian revolution, and so do lots of Iranians. No one came to help them, in time or otherwise.

did you miss the satellite TV part? quite prevalent all over, from what i've read, and a thorn in the mullahs side, since they can't control it, but they can't get rid of it either without more stress than they're up for. the edge is closer than they wish to admit. i say we push them over it.

re: #174 Killgore Trout

I'm glad you're having a nice time, although you're missed here.

re: #186 redc1c4

Good luck with that. Wish I coulda done the 500# thang last week at our city meeting! I don't have much wieght to throw around.
/Sweet dreams

re: #187 HD Woman

LRH! Nope! That much I CAN take with me.

too bad: helmet laws are one reason for the decrease in available donations. being a free market sort of person, i'd make helmet laws optional, with the understanding codified into the law that if you didn't wear one, and you were dead but salvageable, no further consent was needed.

that way everyone gives something and everyone gets something.

last post srsly....... lemme just stop off and visit the fruitcup.

( and not the dummies either. %-)

/white smoke

The close and documented links of Obama, the liar, and Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist, are becoming clearer and clearer. Stanley Kurtz publishes his first article on their relationship and their shared radical educational goals:

Obama and Ayers
Pushed Radicalism
On Schools

Excerpts:

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the "Collaborative," which shaped education policy. ...

One unsettled question is how Mr. Obama, a former community organizer fresh out of law school, could vault to the top of a new foundation? In response to my questions, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying that Mr. Ayers had nothing to do with Obama's "recruitment" to the board. The statement says Deborah Leff and Patricia Albjerg Graham (presidents of other foundations) recruited him. Yet the archives show that, along with Ms. Leff and Ms. Graham, Mr. Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board in 1994. Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval. ...

CAC translated Mr. Ayers's radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with "external partners," which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).

Mr. Obama once conducted "leadership training" seminars with Acorn, and Acorn members also served as volunteers in Mr. Obama's early campaigns. External partners like the South Shore African Village Collaborative and the Dual Language Exchange focused more on political consciousness, Afrocentricity and bilingualism than traditional education. CAC's in-house evaluators comprehensively studied the effects of its grants on the test scores of Chicago public-school students. They found no evidence of educational improvement. ...

Mr. Ayers is the founder of the "small schools" movement (heavily funded by CAC), in which individual schools built around specific political themes push students to "confront issues of inequity, war, and violence." He believes teacher education programs should serve as "sites of resistance" to an oppressive system. (His teacher-training programs were also CAC funded.) The point, says Mr. Ayers in his "Teaching Toward Freedom," is to "teach against oppression," against America's history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.

The Obama campaign has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.

re: #1 Sharmuta

0bama quotes! We need more 0bama quotes!

0bama quotes? You want 0bama quotes? Here's a bunch of them- including how Hillary was on his short list of potential Veeps and how McCain will continue to follow Cheney's foreign policy. You read that right- Cheney's.

re: #192 redc1c4

My mom got Hepatitus when I was young, she bout died.. we all got shots, but unfortunately, after over 15 years of donating blood, I got a letter from red cross saying don't donate anymore. I was beside myself with grief. I wouldn't want contaminated organs in the till, would you?

My husband was mortified when we were on the subject once and I told him he didn't even have to pick up my body from the morgue, I was done with it.

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

re: #192 redc1c4

that way everyone gives something and everyone gets something.

HUH? what would the dead rider get? The freedom to do what they already can do? That may be the most D thing of yours that I've ever read.

re: #196 HD Woman

My mom got Hepatitus when I was young, she bout died.. we all got shots, but unfortunately, after over 15 years of donating blood, I got a letter from red cross saying don't donate anymore. I was beside myself with grief. I wouldn't want contaminated organs in the till, would you?

My husband was mortified when we were on the subject once and I told him he didn't even have to pick up my body from the morgue, I was done with it.

point taken..... though i'd say in general it's still a good idea.

re: #190 Sharmuta

Thanks.

Ding ding went the fruitcup....

re: #196 HD Woman

I'm giving my body to science anyway, take whatever you want. I always have the insane notion that I hope someone uses my body to play a tremendously funny joke on a new intern or something.

re: #194 SouthAmericanWay

Yeah! I've been waiting & looking for that!
Ni'tol

Please, please, please can Rupert Murdoch, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and any other wealthy conservative working in the media please join forces and buy out MSNBC, the New York Times and any other high profile media outlet in trouble.

The only advantage the left have is their newspapers & TV stations. Take away that advantage and they'll never win a thing.

It's not difficult to understand.

re: #204 uptight

You will only be able to find a printed media newspaper in a museum in a hundred years. Just let them die.

MSNBC is already on mothballs, they just can't smell them yet.

re: #198 HD Woman

that way everyone gives something and everyone gets something.

HUH? what would the dead rider get? The freedom to do what they already can do? That may be the most D thing of yours that I've ever read.

society in general has decided, right or wrong, that the cost of helmetless riders is more than they wish to bear. since riding a motorcycle is no more a right than is driving, the states have a right to regulate in anyway they wish, hence helmet laws. rather than force this issue, with the resultant downside to society (reduced organ donations from accident victims) why not do a trade off?

granted, your state may not have a mandatory law, since i don't know where you live, but there's one here in CA, and, as i understand it, in most other states of the US. YMMV.

Fenway! :-)

re: #197 littleoldlady

tastes funny.......

/white smoke

re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm giving my body to science anyway, take whatever you want. I always have the insane notion that I hope someone uses my body to play a tremendously funny joke on a new intern or something.

LOL I have had those notions myself.

re: #208 redc1c4

Maybe because you took one of your own by mistake.

Gary Bussey does not believe in helmet laws. Worked out pretty well for him. Just sayin...

red! :-)

see, re: #210 Sharmuta

Maybe because you took one of your own by mistake.

Sharmuta! :-)

Hey LOL! I haven't seen you lately! How you doin!

re: #212 littleoldlady

Hi, lol!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian! :-)

I'm okay, thanks for asking! Tired. We went to the local McCain/Palin rally yesterday the logistics of getting there and back made it many more hours than we expected.

How's by you?

re: #33 JustMyView

You heard McCain mention the Defense Department as one of the first places he would look for economies on 60 Minutes last night, right? He's also been critical of the cost of Future Combat Systems, one of the programs mentioned in the video you linked to.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBAMA AND JOHN MCCAIN ON THE MILITARY IS OBAMA AND HIS LEFTIST FRIENDS HATE THE IMPERALIST MILITARY AND JOHN MCCAIN JUST WANTS THEM TO DO A BETTER JOB HE SPENT 22 YEARS IN THE SERVICE AND IS WELL AWARE OF IT.

re: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You will only be able to find a printed media newspaper in a museum in a hundred years. Just let them die.

MSNBC is already on mothballs, they just can't smell them yet.

The Net is certainly trouncing newspapers, but newspapers are still the quoted source for much of the information that ends up online.

TV News is the main way people get information and the libs control it. The media has got to be worth at least 20% of Democrat votes. Take away their voice and who would seek out liberal opinion (in the way they have to seek out conservative opinion)

re: #211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Big Ben (won't try to spell his last name) Pittsburgh Steelers? Staunch believer in Helmet Laws now.

Lone Star also believes in Big Helmet.

re: #207 littleoldlady

Phils are in first place overall.....looks like the Mets are in the middle of pulling a repeat of last year's regular season finale (helping themselvs out of a playoff spot).

Believe it or not, I'm a little sad to see Yankee stadium go. I mean it was, after all, where the greatest comeback in all of baseball was finalized.

re: #215 littleoldlady

Glad you asked. Father in law asked me Sunday if I could help him out a bit on Monday (my day off). Went over to Church to help him move some couches. Met him at 8....got home at 3:30 yesterday afternoon.

Was planning on being home by 10. The logistics of getting there and back made it many more hours than I expected!

You win. I didn't get to see McCain/Palin!

re: #219 Fenway_Nation

Shhhh! Don't jinx us! ;-)

As long as the post-Mets season isn't the same as last year...

re: #206 redc1c4

society in general has decided, right or wrong, that the cost of helmetless riders is more than they wish to bear.

Insurance companies have decided that the cost of helmetless riders is more than they wish to bear.

since riding a motorcycle is no more a right than is driving, the states have a right to regulate in anyway they wish, hence helmet laws.

The state is the goverment of the people, if the people are smart and active enough, the people wishes rule in place of the insurance companies that try to pay off government officials.

rather than force this issue, with the resultant downside to society (reduced organ donations from accident victims) why not do a trade off?

I'd rather not "trade off" my freedoms.
Remember when sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous? How does your logic stand up to the AIDS/HIV ISSUE? can we do the same deal with condoms?

granted, your state may not have a mandatory law, since i don't know where you live, but there's one here in CA, and, as i understand it, in most other states of the US. YMMV.

Oklahoma proud! Most other states are rider choice for persons over 21.

re: #211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gary Bussey does not believe in helmet laws. Worked out pretty well for him. Just sayin...

I had to laugh that you used another fat bastard vegetarian for an example. Actually he started believing in helmets real quick after he knocked his noggin onthe curb.

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You win. I didn't get to see McCain/Palin!

Let me rephrase that...when one is about the height of a typical 5th grader, and one is standing in a huge crowd of adult-sized adults, one does not get to "see" very much.

/meannastyteenager got some great pix though. ;-)
//and it was a great rally.

re: #223 HD Woman

I had to laugh that you used another fat bastard vegetarian for an example. Actually he started believing in helmets real quick after he knocked his noggin onthe curb.

He started out nuts, but since the accident is now (want to be politically correct) uh...BATSHIT!

re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Even being politically incorrect words fail me on that guy, some primal feelings of ICK fer sure.

re: #224 littleoldlady
I'm a bit jealous and very glad that you got to go to one of their rallies. The closest they came to me was Pueblo and I couldn't swing it. Did you get a Chris Matthews like tingle? I'm pretty sure I would have.

Well you know LOL, she's such a typical 5th grader....

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL is probably a 5'10" Swedish Bikini Model.

re: #227 HD Woman

HD Woman! :-)

That's the benefit of living in a battleground state.

/the downside is the avalanche of phone calls from here to November...

re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL is probably a 5'10" Swedish Bikini Model.

Yeah. That's the ticket! ;-)

re: #230 littleoldlady

/the downside is the avalanche of phone calls from here to November...

At 3 AM?

Bells ringing....I AGREE WITH BILL CLINTON! I AGREE WITH BILL CLINTON!

Speaking to reporters before his Clinton Global Initiative meeting, the former president described Palin's appeal by adding, "People look at her, and they say, 'All those kids. Something that happens in everybody's family. I'm glad she loves her daughter and she's not ashamed of her. Glad that girl's going around with her boyfriend. Glad they're going to get married.'"

Clinton said voters would think, "I like that little Down syndrome kid. One of them lives down the street. They're wonderful children. They're wonderful people. And I like the idea that this guy does those long-distance races. Stayed in the race for 500 miles with a broken arm. My kind of guy."

Palin, the governor of Alaska, became an overnight star when Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her for his running mate. Her family, including her Down syndrome baby, Trig, her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, and her husband, Todd, four-time winner of the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, have garnered intense media interest.

"I get this," Clinton said. "My view is ... why say, ever, anything bad about a person? Why don't we like them and celebrate them and be happy for her elevation to the ticket? And just say that she was a good choice for him and we disagree with them?"

re: #231 Fenway_Nation

Only if they really don't want me to vote for them.

/above my pay grade.
//on the other hand, I'm usually awake at 3 am...

re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My cousin's wife is 4'3" and swedish bikini models wish they were that cute. Like a true living doll.

Morning Lizards!

The only pol. commericals we are getting are for some congressional races in the subs

he supports bush's war (fill in gop cong. name) hate bush blah blah blah blah (fill in liberal dem name) blah blah blah there all the same

re: #234 HD Woman

My goodness, that's tiny!

/I would TOWER over her!
//what a refreshing thought! ;-)

rightside! :-)

yochanan! :-)

{lol}!

re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bill Clinton is a whore. Once that had been established, the only thing left was negotiating the price. Comments like that prove that Obama gave HRC some money, and it proves that he didn't pay the original asking price. Comments like that also make me cackle with glee like HRC!

Wish I knew how much of her loan to herself that Obama paid back, it would make a great "priceless" spoof.

re: #237 littleoldlady
My Mom is 5'2" and she just loves being around her!

re: #240 HD Woman

That proves that Obama paid Clinton money? Huh? Clinton gets paid money and tears them a new one....that quote did not tear anything.

re: #236 yochanan
Here in OK, Rice(D) is trying to win Inhoffe's (r)seat. He started off with ads that instantly reminded us of Obama - I've been listening to people's concerns blah blah - Inhoffe jumped on it & it's been pretty funny seeing the ads that compare him to the skinny o. They end with the big circle slash over the faces of Rice & Obama/ NOT RIGHT FOR OKLAHOMA

re: #237 littleoldlady

I knew it, Hightower is your sockpuppet!

re: #244 akak

Nope. My sockpuppet is "I AM standing up!"

;-)

re: #245 littleoldlady

Heh...reminds me of one time Clinton was looking at a miniature White House model. Turned to Robert Reich (sp?) and said, "Hey, you could live in here!" before (I think Bentson) gave him a "psst...that's not politically correct" shush!

re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That proves that Obama paid Clinton money? Huh? Clinton gets paid money and tears them a new one....that quote did not tear anything.

I believe the fact that they are out there stumping for him at all proves he helped her with the campaign debt. This is the guy that equivocated on the definition of IS. He schooled the world on his careful wording, so yep I'm more than just a little jaded when it comes to this guy.
If I believe the worst of this guy, it's his bad.
If I believed anything that comes out of his pie hole, that would be my bad.

re: #247 HD Woman

Won't discuss. Sorry I brought it up.

Posted by RTLM at No. 5. This is strange

The MV Iran Deyanat set sail from Nanjing, China, at the end of July and, according to its manifest, planned to travel to Rotterdam, where it would unload 42,500 tons of iron ore and "industrial products" purchased by a German client.

SNIP

Suspicion has also been cast on the ship's crew, half of which is almost entirely staffed by Iranians - a large percentage of Iranian nationals for a standard merchant vessel. Somali officials say that the ship has a crew of 29 men, including a Pakistani captain, an Iranian engineer, 13 other Iranians, 3 Indians, 2 Filipinos, and 10 Eastern Europeans, possibly Croatian.

The MV Iran Deyanat was brought to Eyl, a sleepy fishing village in northeastern Somalia, and was secured by a larger gang of pirates - 50 onboard and 50 onshore. Within days, pirates who had boarded the ship developed strange health complications, skin burns and loss of hair. Independent sources tell The Long War Journal that a number of pirates have also died. "Yes, some of them have died. I do not know exactly how many but the information that I am getting is that some of them have died," Andrew Mwangura, Director of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program, said Friday when reached by phone in Mombasa.

News about the illness and the toxic cargo quickly reached Garowe, seat of the government for the autonomous region of Puntland. Angered over the wave of piracy and suspicious about the Iranian ship, authorities dispatched a delegation led by Minister of Minerals and Oil Hassan Allore Osman to investigate the situation on September 4. Osman also confirmed to The Long War Journal that during the six days he negotiated with the pirates members of the syndicate had become sick and died. "That ship is unusual," he said. "It is not carrying a normal shipment."

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re: #249 MandyManners

Did you see this?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
LOL That's the way most people feel when the subject turns to slick willy around me. I'll admit to disliking both the Clintons in a very rabid like fashion.

re: #250 Sharmuta
Wow, If they'd do that to her just for being born a woman, I don't want to think about what they would do to her for trying to stand up for herself and her daughter. I hope she gets to stay.

re: #249 MandyManners

1. Always glad when Somali pirates catch a little radiation poisoning. Can't happen to nicer guys.
2. When it comes to Iranians, always love little "workplace mishaps"!

Daylight soon. Things to do.
Best wishes to you all.

xoxo BFV

re: #250 Sharmuta

Did you see this?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I didn't need to read that this early in the morning.

Good to see that some are paying attention. I just wanna' know what in the hell that BoIA was thinkng. She's already been mutilated so let's force her back?!

re: #254 HD Woman

Nothing including a casket, I hope!

(ducks and runs)!

re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

1. Always glad when Somali pirates catch a little radiation poisoning. Can't happen to nicer guys.
2. When it comes to Iranians, always love little "workplace mishaps"!

What is the cargo?! What was really gonna' be unloaded in the Netherlands?