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McCain Suspends Campaign to Work on Financial Crisis

Politics | Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:59:22 pm PDT

Obama inclinded [sic] to move ahead with debate.

NEW YORK - Barack Obama’s campaign says he is inclined to go ahead with Friday’s presidential debate, even though rival John McCain is calling for a delay.

McCain said Wednesday that he wants to stop all campaigning tomorrow and postpone the debate so they can work together on the financial crisis. But Obama campaign officials say the senator is inclined to move ahead.

McCain said the Bush administration’s plan seemed headed for defeat and a bipartisan solution was urgently needed.

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1 freedomplow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:00:52pm

Country First

2 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:01:00pm

Charles, is inclined intentionally spelled wrong?

3 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:01:05pm
4 trailortrash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:01:10pm

Go McC!

5 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:01:23pm

OBAMA is going to debate himself ... That will be fun!

6 mama winger  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:01:31pm

Charles , you have a slight spelling error in your first link :)

7 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:01:38pm

Go ahead with the debate and tear 0bama a new one for not working on an economic solution to this crisis.

8 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:01:54pm

Looks like John wants to get down to the job of running the country, and the Obamessiah wants to get down to the job of running his mouth.

JAFLW

9 Oriculum  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:00pm

This just goes to show what sort of men these two are.

10 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:06pm

The real reason.

Hat tip: AP at Hotair.

11 joncelli  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:21pm

So what if McCain doesn't show, and Obama shows up to the debate and makes it into a one-man show on national television? The MSM will spin this as Obambi calling McCain's bluff. Wheels within wheels.

12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:30pm

Obama campaign calls out "dirty tricks" for expectations of Senator's doing their jobs

13 Eagle  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:30pm

McCain (& Palin) have a real opportunity here to propose a real fiscal conservative change, as opposed to status quo.

Lets hope he does so.

14 joncelli  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:46pm

re: #2 ciaospirit

No, it's right.

15 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:57pm

Obama refused 10 town hall debates. Screw him. McCain should stand his ground and keep country first.

16 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:02:58pm

Michael Medved just suggested that Obama debate Biden on Friday since they disagree on so many things.

17 PAgirlinNC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:03:10pm

Just heard that the House (i think) just passed a bill that includes $25 billion for the auto industry and money for those affected by hurricanes and floods. I hope they did not include the auto industry....

18 joncelli  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:03:53pm

re: #14 joncelli

Oh, sheesh. I thought you meant misspelled in the story. [Slinks away]

19 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:03:55pm

re: #8 Just Another Four-letter Word

Looks like John wants to get down to the job of running the country, and the Obamessiah wants to get down to the job of running his mouth.

JAFLW

Very apt!

20 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:04:00pm

Just arrived from McCain/Palin via email:
John McCain:
America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.

Last Friday, I laid out my proposal and I have since discussed my priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward. Senator Obama has expressed his priorities and concerns. This morning, I met with a group of economic advisers to talk about the proposal on the table and the steps that we should take going forward. I have also spoken with members of Congress to hear their perspective.

It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration's proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.

Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.

I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.

We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night's debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.

I am confident that before the markets open on Monday we can achieve consensus on legislation that will stabilize our financial markets, protect taxpayers and homeowners, and earn the confidence of the American people. All we must do to achieve this is temporarily set politics aside, and I am committed to doing so.

Following September 11th, our national leaders came together at a time of crisis. We must show that kind of patriotism now. Americans across our country lament the fact that partisan divisions in Washington have prevented us from addressing our national challenges. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country.

21 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:04:04pm
Barack Obama’s campaign says he is inclined to go ahead with Friday’s presidential debate

He's going to solo-debate, right there on national television?

Eww!

22 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:04:12pm

John McCain is putting the country first!

Go McCain!

23 Summersong  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:04:22pm

Oh! So I can expect a new Obama ad berating McCain for this position in 3, 2, 1...

24 Happy4LA  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:04:27pm

Let's prosecute these CEOs of financial companies that allowed fraud to continue unabated while they cashed in millions of dollars of bonuses. I'm a free market person, but these crooks looked out for themselves and ruined 100+ year old institutions to make themselves rich at their shareholders' expense. Now we're all paying the price.

25 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:04:58pm

McCain is showing what kind of President he will be. Brilliant move.

26 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:05:00pm

re: #14 joncelli

No, it's right.

I've never seen it spelled -ded.

27 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:05:16pm

Leiberman on Fox calling McCain a leader.

28 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:05:23pm
29 Pickle  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:05:26pm

re: #13 Eagle

McCain (& Palin) have a real opportunity here to propose a real fiscal conservative change, as opposed to status quo.

Lets hope he does so.

If he does, it will be the first time in his political career.

No, what's coming is just a bailout, only accompanied by a severe regulatory regime to satisfy the Democrats.

That's what he means by "bipartisan".

Socialist swine, all of them.

30 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:05:41pm

re: #16 HelloDare

Michael Medved just suggested that Obama debate Biden on Friday since they disagree on so many things.

Good find. Upding

31 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:05:51pm

re: #27 snowcrash

Leiberman on Fox calling McCain a leader.

But he's one of the Zionists who are manipulating this crisis! Ahmadinejad said so!

32 Jimash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:05:55pm

The last thing those dips in the senate want os for McCain to come back and kick some ass.

33 rightside  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:06:03pm

All I can say is, Karl, you magnificent bastard!

34 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:06:26pm

re: #17 PAgirlinNC

Just heard that the House (i think) just passed a bill that includes $25 billion for the auto industry and money for those affected by hurricanes and floods. I hope they did not include the auto industry....

huh?

35 Summersong  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:06:32pm

re: #17 PAgirlinNC

Just heard that the House (i think) just passed a bill that includes $25 billion for the auto industry and money for those affected by hurricanes and floods. I hope they did not include the auto industry....

My neighbor owes me a cup of sugar. I wonder if the Dems will include it in their legislation?

36 joncelli  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:06:35pm

re: #26 ciaospirit

I looked in the wrong place. I'm scourging my sinful flesh as I write this (tough to type one-handed.).

37 arethusa  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:06:41pm

Just when I think this campaign can't get any more interesting, it does.

But I gave up pizza for New Year's, until the first Presidential debate, when I was going to sit and munch and watch. Do you all have any idea how much I've been looking forward to that pizza?

38 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:06:54pm

re: #5 Celtic Templar

OBAMA is going to debate himself ... That will be fun!

heh. Every time he's had to make a policy statement or a comment on a national event since he began running, Obama's had a nice little debate with himself with back-and-forth in statements about the issue before he's made up his mind on his final answer, so why should we be surprised this time?

39 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:07:01pm

If McCain is going to suspend his entire Campaign rather than just postpone the debates then this is a grave error. Obama is against the ropes and can't get his guard up. Now McCain is proposing to give him a chance to regroup. I hope he is just saying this and doesn't really mean it.

40 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:07:39pm
41 subsailor68  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:07:43pm

Sorry, this may be a little OT (haven't had time to read all comments)...but, in trying to understand the impact of the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 (strengthened by the Clinton Administration in 1995), I ran across this article:

The Trillion-Dollar Bank Shakedown That Bodes Ill for Cities
Howard Husock

The frightening thing is that it was written in 2000!

It's a relatively long article, but worth a read - and to pay particular attention to the impact of "community groups" such as ACORN and NACA on the situation.

You know, community organizers like...well, you know.

(I also posted this on the last thread, but this seems more appropriate anyway.)

42 sparrowlake  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:07:48pm

There's a song that they sing when they take to the highway,
A song that they sing when they take to the sea,
A song that they sing of their home in the sky,
Maybe you can believe it if it helps you to sleep,
But singing works just fine for me.

- Sweet Baby James

43 WestchesterJeff  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:08:00pm

McCain can suspend the campaign, go to Washington and do his job, and still show up for the debate on Friday. Unlike Obama, McCain doesn't need to cram. Furthermore, it's not like missing votes in the Senate is anything new for Obama anyway.

44 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:08:03pm

re: #20 newsjunkie_ky

Just received the same email. I like it. McCain is acting presidential, while Obama likes to play president with his pseudo seal and European Rainbow Tour.

45 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:08:07pm

An Obama booked was in the Spinoff Links upstairs. Here's the publisher's description of the book:

Barack Obama
Son of Promise, Child of Hope

Ever since Barack Obama was young, Hope has lived inside him. From the beaches of Hawaii to the streets of Chicago, from the jungles of Indonesia to the plains of Kenya, he has held on to Hope. Even as a boy, Barack knew he wasn't quite like anybody else, but through his journeys he found the ability to listen to Hope and become what he was meant to be: a bridge to bring people together.

This is the moving story of an exceptional man, as told by Nikki Grimes and illustrated by Bryan Collier, both winners of the Coretta Scott King Award. Barack Obama has motivated Americans to believe with him, to believe that every one of us has the power to change ourselves and change our world.

46 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:08:18pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

"Good evening. John McCain is working for you tonight, so he couldn't be here. I ducked out of my job so that I could tell you how wonderful I am without interruption."

Oh, that'll fly.

See my #8...

JAFLW

47 thefallingman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:08:19pm

What CAPT(R) McCain should do is suspend his campaign, go back to the Senate to work, excuse himself for one day for the debate, and then go back to the Senate. Don't postpone the debate because it will just take that much longer for the nation to see just how empty The One really is.

48 greenbacker  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:08:49pm

The only way to fix a "free" market is to make it free (without quotes).

49 maddogg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:08:50pm

Country first. Fine. Great. So what if the damned communist and the dufus win the election? McCain needs to kick Obama's lightweight ass in the debates, win the election and save his country from Communism/Socialism and a possible civil war. Country first, indeed!

50 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:09:35pm

To Expect Obama to take a leadership non partisan stance this late in the game when he's never actually done anything like this before borders on delusion. He hasn't needed real acheivement thus far so I see no advantage for him to start. The MSM will still carry his wine and bread.

51 Dead Man Voting  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:09:37pm

No problem for "my" Senator .

He simply votes "present" and moves on. More than enough free time to bloviate on the grand stage.

52 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:10:31pm

re: #16 HelloDare

Michael Medved just suggested that Obama debate Biden on Friday since they disagree on so many things.

hahahahahahahahahaha

53 WrathofG-d  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:10:46pm

I heard this morning on The Dennis Prager Radio Show (Hello Dennis, who reads LGF) that Bush and The Republicans actually tried to pass a bill to attempt to avoid the problem we are experiencing today in 2003 but it was stopped by the Democrat Congress.

They like to blame Bush & the Republicans for this problem, but they control Congress! (both Houses)

54 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:10:54pm

re: #16 HelloDare

Michael Medved just suggested that Obama debate Biden on Friday since they disagree on so many things.

Good zinger, Medved!

55 arizona9  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:11:00pm

Of course Obama doesn't want the debate postponed..he will forget everything he had crammed into his brain during his 3 day 'debate camp'.
This will be very very amusing watching Obama's camp twist in the wind with this proposal by McCain. Their initial instinct will be to rip McCain to shreds but, given the proposal is so needed, they will have to go along with it or risk looking craven and unpresidential. You know they are furious that they didn't think of it first! Oh boy, I just heard that Obama's camp is, in fact, trying to take credit for the idea. Unbelievable.

56 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:11:20pm

Does this look like Barry O was going to suspend his campaign like his camp is claiming they proposed at 8:30 this morning?

57 Dave the.....  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:11:25pm
Just heard that the House (i think) just passed a bill that includes $25 billion for the auto industry and money for those affected by hurricanes and floods. I hope they did not include the auto industry....

I'm financally responsible. I work for a profitable company that makes good business decisions.

Where is my free money?

58 yma o hyd  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:11:37pm

re: #39 Egfrow

If McCain is going to suspend his entire Campaign rather than just postpone the debates then this is a grave error. Obama is against the ropes and can't get his guard up. Now McCain is proposing to give him a chance to regroup. I hope he is just saying this and doesn't really mean it.


He isn't suspending his entire campaign, he's iirc, suspending it until Monday, and cancelling that first debate.

Brilliant move.
Mind - I had to calm down a lot after the initial panic to graps this.

McCain puts Country before politics - as he's always said he'd do.
He's taken the initiative - B0 doesn't look lile a leader, whatever he now decides to do.

B0 is truly 'Not Rady To Lead'.

59 bulwrk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:11:57pm

Knowing the Democrats they will seize on this and attempt to bog McCain down in Washington and try to make him look ineffectual while Obama is out blaming Republicans for holding up the process country be damned.

60 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:12:02pm

re: #44 doppelganglander
And his newly minted presidential coin.
What a complete a$$wipe.

61 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:12:13pm

re: #53 WrathofG-d

Rush stated the other day that the Bush administration has made 12 different attempts at this. Dems voted no each time.

62 PAgirlinNC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:12:14pm

re: #34 midwestgak

It was breaking news on the news segment of Sean Hannity's program...

63 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:12:27pm

re: #39 Egfrow

If McCain is going to suspend his entire Campaign rather than just postpone the debates then this is a grave error. Obama is against the ropes and can't get his guard up. Now McCain is proposing to give him a chance to regroup. I hope he is just saying this and doesn't really mean it.

It's almost like granting Obama a hudna.

64 eon  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:12:30pm

This is in fact the perfect scenario for the Obamessiah to debate.

He can appear on stage on one podium, and "debate" another (empty) podium, telling the audience what his opponent would say if he (the opponent) were present.

Of course, the 'opponent' would always be wrong, and the One would always be right.

But even then, I suspect he would end up either;

A. Tangled up in his own rhetoric;

B. Contradicting his own previous statement, his running mate, or both; and/or

C. Unable to parse a sentence even reading from a teleprompter.

Of course, if the McCain campaign wanted to be really sadistic, they could have Governor Palin debate the One and Joe the Mouth together.

/I call it the Barracuda by two KOs

cheers

eon

65 RoughRider  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:12:38pm

re: #5 Celtic Templar

OBAMA is going to debate himself ... That will be fun!

"Senator Obama, your campaign appears to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?"

66 formercorpsman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:13:15pm

How long before the LLL start complaining about the conspiracy of the economy to look bad, in order to make McCain look Presidential?

67 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:13:27pm

Anybody know if they get the questions ahead of time? Obama knows he'll look like an ass if he doesn't get them and memorize his answers.

68 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:13:39pm
69 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:14:17pm

re: #25 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

McCain is showing what kind of President he will be. Brilliant move.

I back his strategy as far as the upcomming debates are concerned. I'm against suspending his entire campaign. Never give your opponent a chance to catch his breath. This is a street fight and Obama shares no concern about hitting below the belt.

70 Dahveed  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:14:20pm

McCain doesn't want to vote "Present" on this. He wants to have the facts and the information.

I think it's a good move overall.

71 Ps2  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:14:25pm

re: #60 newsjunkie_ky

Article on why founders did not mint coins of living persons

[Link: grizzlygroundswell.com...]

72 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:15:13pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry, we're out of free money. You can have a Free Mumia, if you'd like--we've got lots of those.

"Free Mumia - with a purchase of a Mumia of equal or greater value! This week only!"

JAFLW

73 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:15:13pm

McCain is demonstrating leadership and bipartisanship, and if the Dems work with him they will inadvertantly reinforce this. If they don't work with him, then they will look partisan and political.

Brilliant!

74 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:15:27pm

re: #10 Noam Sayin'
Why was it not work safe?
Tag it!
please

75 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:15:32pm

Oh, from last thread, just because I had been asked a question:

re: #508 debutaunt

Friday's the last one. I'm on the final taper-off.

But I'm jittery, itchy, nervous, labile, and ravenously hungry.

You may guess how much I'm enjoying myself.

76 CapeCoddah  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:15:36pm

hey all,
I know it is early to go ot, but, I have kind of an emergency. Does anyone know if I can recover cell text messages online, kind of a record of activity for my cell phone?

77 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:15:36pm

re: #37 arethusa

Just when I think this campaign can't get any more interesting, it does.

But I gave up pizza for New Year's, until the first Presidential debate, when I was going to sit and munch and watch. Do you all have any idea how much I've been looking forward to that pizza?


Why ruin a perfectly good pizza with a debate?

78 yma o hyd  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:15:51pm

re: #58 yma o hyd

PIMF - that empty suit isn't Ready to lead ... aww, I need new glasses ...

79 looking closely  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:16:09pm

re: #39 Egfrow

If McCain is going to suspend his entire Campaign rather than just postpone the debates then this is a grave error. Obama is against the ropes and can't get his guard up. Now McCain is proposing to give him a chance to regroup. I hope he is just saying this and doesn't really mean it.


Its posturing.

McCain may not make any more appearances or speeches for a few days.

That doesn't mean his campaign gets the week off or Sarah Palin goes on vacation now.

80 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:16:16pm
81 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:16:18pm

I think it's a good move. My parents thought it looked decisive, not a stunt (I noticed that Cavuto slightly implied that).

Have you seen Drudge's Headline about this?

Can you imagine what he would've done if he had been around in 1945 for VE-Day?

82 Son Of The Godfather  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:16:50pm

The comments by the lefties there are amazing...

They ACTUALLY BELIEVE that Obama would trounce McCain in a debate?!?

I don't think they use teleprompters during debates, do they?

Jeeeebus, we're fighting pure stupidity.

83 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:16:57pm

The real question is whether the American Majority wants a Leader or a Messiah. I wish I knew that answer.

84 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:16:59pm

re: #79 looking closely

Its posturing.

McCain may not make any more appearances or speeches for a few days.

That doesn't mean his campaign gets the week off or Sarah Palin goes on vacation now.

No, but no TV adds.

85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:02pm

My prediction;

Barry and his cronies have a screaming hissy over McCain trying to duck out of the debate and generally come across like the cry babies they are. Then they vent and hype themselves up saying "whew, we dodged that bullet" and relax. Then McCain says, "well, if you really want a debate, I'll be there after work."

IZ IN UR BRAINZ, MESSIN WIT UR PLANZ!

86 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:07pm

re: #76 CapeCoddah

I think you'd better ask your provider.

87 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:15pm

I'm thinking the old fox may have gotten back inside Bammy's OODA loop. We'll see.

88 snuffyword  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:19pm

Well, maybe GOV. Palin can substitute debate Obie-The One-cannot-be for Mac. I, mean, here's a chance to get some experience of stepping in when the "POTUS-to-be" is busy with other important issues.

89 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:33pm

I would like to see how fast the msm changes it tone on how bad the economy is. When McCain said the fundamentals of the economy are strong, the media said they were spiraling down. Now McCain goes to Washington to solve problems, I predict the media will downplay any problems that haven't been solved already.

90 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:38pm

No word from Obama about this specifically, but his camp said The Debate Is Still On.

This is very jarring. McCain conceded to Obama's request that the first debate should be about foreign policy.

But the ONLY focus of the first debate should be the economy. It's a weird decision. It's like Obama is trying to hang on to whatever decision-making that is left to him in the short-run.

91 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:45pm

Banner on FNC homepage:

Breaking News > Obama Rejects Call to Postpone Debate

92 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:49pm

re: #58 yma o hyd

This maneuver does indeed take the initiative and air out of the Obama juggernaut just like his selection of Palin did. It was tactically brilliant if he leaves it just within the scope of the upcoming debates. If his suspension goes on more than a week than it's danger time.

93 winston06  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:17:53pm

Hussein O doesnt care about America

94 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:18:38pm

re: #81 vbspurs

I think it's a good move. My parents thought it looked decisive, not a stunt (I noticed that Cavuto slightly implied that).

Have you seen Drudge's Headline about this?

I like the photo Drudge used to illustrate the story too - Mac looks serious, focused, and decisive... hope Matt doesn't change it!

95 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:18:50pm

Has McCain called Andrew Cuomo for advice yet?

/only half joking

96 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:18:56pm

Go John!

And please work on reversing the speculative run-up of housing prices that have made it harder for regular families to afford a home & still do a good job raising kids, i.e. one parent can stay home.

Like Mr. Palin ...

97 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:18:59pm

re: #75 Dianna

Oh, from last thread, just because I had been asked a question:

re: #508 debutaunt

Friday's the last one. I'm on the final taper-off.

But I'm jittery, itchy, nervous, labile, and ravenously hungry.

You may guess how much I'm enjoying myself.

Awful! MSG has a similar affect on me at night, in particular.

98 maddogg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:00pm

re: #80 buzzsawmonkey

Those will be fun to own when the Obama candidacy crashes and burns in November.

You know, I sure hope your right. I keep hearing the talking heads talk about all the bullshit thats gonna happen if Obama loses the election, but that stuff is small potatoes compared to the crap that will happen if the SOB wins.

99 RaiderDan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:01pm

Here's a thought to consider. If Obama did this first, announcing he was suspending his campaign and put off the debate to return to Washington to broker a solution to the "crisis," he'd be hailed as a statesman and a leader by the Mainstream Media.

McCain just got in the Obama campaign's head again just as the Obama campaign was pulling away, much to the media's delight. Of course the Dems will spin and chuckle and scream coward, but its an act of leadership.

The Maverick did it again.

"I'm bringing him in closer"

"You're gonna do WHAT?"

"I'll hit the brakes he'll fly right by"

Country First anybody?

100 shanester  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:08pm

But... but... but... Obama has been studying so hard for this debate! He's almost done with "Foreign Policy for Dummies" for Heaven's sake!

He might forget everything if they reschedule the test... er, debate.

101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:08pm

re: #93 winston06

Hussein O doesnt care about America

Nothing new about that. He is a citizen of the world after all.

102 arethusa  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:12pm

If the economy remains the issue foremost in voters' minds, though, that favors Obama. (Why do you think some Democrats have been dragging their feet on the bailout or any constructive solution?) Getting the crisis at hand solved may help McCain, if voters perceive that it has been solved, and he helped to do it.

103 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:13pm

re: #71 Ps2

Article on why founders did not mint coins of living persons

[Link: grizzlygroundswell.com...]


Thanks for posting that. 0bama has no moral or ethical center.

105 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:31pm

re: #76 CapeCoddah

hey all,
I know it is early to go ot, but, I have kind of an emergency. Does anyone know if I can recover cell text messages online, kind of a record of activity for my cell phone?

Check with your cell service provider, they *may* have a record they can dump to you... Depends on the provider, of course.

JAFLW

106 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:36pm

re: #91 Ward Cleaver

Not good for Obama.

107 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:39pm

re: #91 Ward Cleaver

Banner on FNC homepage:

Fine, let the Obama show up alone. He oughta have a dandy time in Mississippi.

108 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:19:47pm

Liddy Dole on Fox - "This infuriates me, because I introduced legislation in 2003 as a freshman senator to help rein in FM/FM, but the democrats voted it down. And again, in 2005, and in 2007 - the democrats blocked it."

Woot! Tell it, girl!

109 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:20:02pm

I don't know if it is a good idea. The MSM will spin it really bad, and too many people still get their information from them. And 0bama will use this in their ads as well.

McCain should make it down to the debate, and then return after wiping the floor with 0bama.

There have been a couple of things recently that make me think McCain is trying to lose again. This is one. Another is that he did not mention pre-emptive strikes against Iran, just retaliation. It is too late then.

111 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:20:25pm

re: #80 buzzsawmonkey

YES!

112 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:20:34pm

re: #21 Occasional Reader

He's going to solo-debate, right there on national television?

Eww!

Hide the children.
.....heck, hide from the reporters. I don't want to see Helen Thomas' O face. Ewwwww.

113 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:20:37pm

re: #92 Egfrow

I don't think it will last past the weekend. This business cannot wait, and it's a simple pass/fail.

114 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:20:43pm

Anyway plant your winter vegetables

115 Eagle  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:20:59pm

re: #29 Pickle

Just as picking Palin (and her great speech) energized the Republican base, I can see a bailout plan de-energizing the base.

116 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:21:02pm

Every time I hear Obama's ad (just now in Ohio), I wish I could debate him. He says, "Now is the time to keep the promise for equal pay for an equal day's work. I want my daughters to have the same exact opportunities as your sons." Do you now?

I WANT MY SON TO HAVE THE SAME EXACT OPPORTUNITIES AS YOUR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION DAUGHTERS! HELL, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME EXACT OPPORTUNITIES AS YOUR DAUGHTERS. But I'm a white woman so forget it.

117 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:21:06pm

I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.

118 rexatosis  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:21:12pm

McCain has once again painted Obama in a corner. If Obama returns to Washington for a high profile bi-partisan legistative pow-wow session he will show just how ineffective a legislator he is (there is a big difference between "authoring" legislation which he has not done and "sponsoring" legislation written by others). If Obama does not return to Washington he looks less like a leader and more like the empty suit he is.

119 jsk1121  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:21:22pm

Obama has to follow the leader...

120 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:21:48pm
121 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:21:49pm

re: #16 HelloDare

Michael Medved just suggested that Obama debate Biden on Friday since they disagree on so many things.

ROFL

122 Izzy Dunne  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:21:49pm

re: #20 newsjunkie_ky

the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama


Pretty doggone magnanimous of McCain, putting O'bama in the "leadership" column.

123 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:22:05pm

re: #117 Who Watches the Watchmen?


I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.


DING DING DING

124 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:22:14pm
125 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:22:21pm

re: #94 runrabbitrun

I like the photo Drudge used to illustrate the story too - Mac looks serious, focused, and decisive... hope Matt doesn't change it!

My thoughts exactly.

Like many Conservatives, I think Drudge likes Obama, though. I think Instapundit said that Drudge used to be an ahead-the-curve journalist once, but no longer.

126 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:22:49pm

re: #72 Just Another Four-letter Word

"Free Mumia - with a purchase of a Mumia of equal or greater value! This week only!"


JAFLW

Can I get fries with that?

127 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:23:17pm

The MSM will continue to carry Obama's wine and bread to the masses. Expect the talking heads to start calling foul on McCain's gesture.

128 snuffyword  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:23:21pm

re: #117 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.

re: #88 snuffyword

That's what I was saying!

Well, maybe GOV. Palin can substitute debate Obie-The One-cannot-be for Mac. I, mean, here's a chance to get some experience of stepping in when the "POTUS-to-be" is busy with other important issues.

129 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:23:33pm

re: #120 taxfreekiller

Elegant, tfk.

130 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:23:50pm

Like clockwork, a liberal idiot on another message board starts a thread with this title:
"McCain panics! suspends campaign, seeks debate delay. Blames financial crisis"

131 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:23:52pm

re: #56 Just_A_Grunt

Does this look like Barry O was going to suspend his campaign like his camp is claiming they proposed at 8:30 this morning?

Damn, skippy, that's a long speech. The man is human Ambien.

BTW, when did you get your own radio show? That is just awesome. Nice blog, too. I appreciate the Georgia angle.

132 yma o hyd  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:23:59pm

re: #102 arethusa

If the economy remains the issue foremost in voters' minds, though, that favors Obama. (Why do you think some Democrats have been dragging their feet on the bailout or any constructive solution?) Getting the crisis at hand solved may help McCain, if voters perceive that it has been solved, and he helped to do it.

And if the dems keep dragging their feet in Cognress, he can show that this is the future waiting for the American People if that empty suit gets into the White House.

Dems always think the people are stupid and don't understand anything: they do understand only too well.
Its a Win-Win situation for the old fox.

133 capitalist piglet  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:24:06pm

McCain wants to do his job in the Senate.

Obama wants to finish his waffle.

(Credit to a HotAir commenter CP is in order.)

134 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:24:18pm
135 Joe Six Pack  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:24:25pm

Nobama is going to issue a statement at 4:45 pm edt according to Hannity. He's probably firing up the Teleprompter so as not to sound like a buffoon.

136 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:24:27pm

re: #117 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.

To paraphrase 'The Last Starfighter', "It'll be a slaughter." "That's the spirit!"

137 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:24:28pm

According to Ace:


McCain Suspends Campaigning to Deal With Financial Crisis; Update: Obama Claims Idea to Suspend Was His First, But Also Says He's Not Suspending.. What?

You just can't make this stuff up.. another McCain commercial in 3..2..1..

138 Arbalest  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:24:57pm

This is the point where John McCain reads his efforts (Q: how many years ago? A: when it would have worked) on S190 to the Senate, right?

Can we arrange to get his speech on the follr of the Senate TELEVISED?

Also, how about panning the Snete, to broadcasr who's there and who's not?

139 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:25:06pm

re: #122 Izzy Dunne
As it should be. Both presidential candidates should make their positions known and on record.

140 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:25:12pm

President Saakishvili on Fox News' Cavuto show.

141 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:25:20pm

re: #135 Joe Six Pack

Why not a text message at 3 am?

142 Dream  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:25:37pm

re: #123 Ojoe

DING DING DING

Oh sweet Lizard on high let it be so!

143 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:25:48pm

re: #91 Ward Cleaver

Well, if he doesn't flip-flop (again), one of two things will happen. Either Obama will be sitting there talking to himself, or he'll be facing an exhausted, jet-lagged, 72-year-old Sen. McCain who will nevertheless whoop his ass.

144 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:26:01pm

Couric's interview with Palin

Not related, but why is Couric always holding her neck in promo pix?

145 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:26:18pm
146 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:26:48pm

re: #134 ciaospirit

How dare he compare this with Pearl Harbor. Jackass.

He called an "Ecomomic" Pear Harbor, not an Economic 9-11. The point being that Foreign markets are causing a collapse and we were a sleep at the wheel. AIG holdings are more than 80% European. Foreign investors will bail out these companies and own the dept to all that property.

147 Dream  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:26:55pm

re: #117 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.

Meant to quote this =/

148 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:27:02pm

re: #109 Kosh's Shadow

The MSM will never spin anything in favor of McCain no matter what he does, so they're basically irrelevant right now.

What is apparent is that John McCain is halting the stump speeches for a few days in order to go to Washington and do his job as senator and try to get some sort of resolution for this bill.

No matter what Harry Reid says ("They need to stay away [meaning McCain/Obama], because it will become a photo-op") it is the job of the US senate to do the work to get this thing done, in some fashion or another.

And even if McCain spends the next two days working non-stop in Washington, he can fly down to Mississippi at the last minute and still kick Obama's ass on foreign policy.

149 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:27:15pm

re: #140 vbspurs

President Saakishvili on Fox News' Cavuto show.

Yeah, but I think he picked the wrong day!

150 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:27:20pm

re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

Noooooooooo !

EXTRA BAD

Mandy needs to whack

151 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:27:20pm

re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

She has a Couric in it.

ba dump bump ... Check please.

152 P. Aaron  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:27:24pm

It's either wreckless or an ingenious; "in your face" and I am just not seeing it.

153 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:27:37pm

re: #144 Celtic Templar

Couric's interview with Palin

Not related, but why is Couric always holding her neck in promo pix?

She covers her Property of Hell's Angels tattoo.

154 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:27:47pm

Over an hour since McCain's public announcement and NO BARACK OBAMA statement so far.

He's voting Present again.

155 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:07pm

OT-
I guess there was a major McCain hit piece by the NYTimes - filled with complete lies and distortions .

Anyone see it? Rush said McCain camp is pissed. clearly the NY Times is a propaganda arm for Obama.

156 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:10pm

re: #144 Celtic Templar

Couric's interview with Palin

Not related, but why is Couric always holding her neck in promo pix?

That is a sexual comeon.

157 maddogg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:15pm

re: #144 Celtic Templar

Couric's interview with Palin

Not related, but why is Couric always holding her neck in promo pix?

To keep her empty head from floating away.

158 mgscheue  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:31pm

I don't think this was in Obama's script. You've gotta love the way McCain keeps messing with Obama's head.

159 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:34pm

re: #154 vbspurs

Over an hour since McCain's public announcement and NO BARACK OBAMA statement so far.

He's voting Present again.

He's polling.

160 RaiderDan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:43pm

"Who's up there?"

"Cougar and Merlin..."

"...and Maverick and (Moose)"

"Great, Maverick and (Moose...)"

161 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:44pm

Just a prediction; The Truthers and Kossacks are going to start claiming that the Election will be postponed and allow GWB to retain Emergency powers and stay president.

162 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:48pm

re: #119 jsk1121

Obama has to follow the leader...

Again. Remember the Georgia matter? :)

163 Joe Six Pack  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:28:50pm

re: #141 Ojoe

Why not a text message at 3 am?

If he texts like he speaks off the cuff we wouldn't understand it.

164 RedPepper  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:01pm

McCain said the Bush administration’s plan seemed headed for defeat and a bipartisan solution was urgently needed.

IMHO, this plan needs to be defeated. This is "Let's throw money at the problem - that'll solve it!" on steroids!

And good luck achieving a "bipartisan solution" under these circumstances!

/oh yeah, that'll happen ...

165 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:05pm

re: #154 vbspurs

Over an hour since McCain's public announcement and NO BARACK OBAMA statement so far.

He's voting Present again.

Has he even come up with a divinely inspired way out of this shit? I thought he was the Messiah...can't he just waive his hands about and make it go away?

Come to think of it, if he is the Messiah, why don't I have a house yet?

166 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:12pm
167 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:31pm

re: #154 vbspurs

Over an hour since McCain's public announcement and NO BARACK OBAMA statement so far.

He's voting Present again.

....and after Mac's surprise announcement, Barry probably took a time out to change his (Elmo) underpants....

168 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:31pm

re: #152 P. Aaron

It's either wreckless or an ingenious; "in your face" and I am just not seeing it.

MSM will spin this as a stunt. Watch. It depends on how the American people see it. My parents are not on blogs. They're highly educated, but not tech-savvy.

They think it's genius. We'll see.

169 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:32pm

re: #154 vbspurs

By the way, after all the brave talk, did either he or his minions do anything useful during the hurricanes?

170 yma o hyd  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:33pm

re: #127 Egfrow

The MSM will continue to carry Obama's wine and bread to the masses. Expect the talking heads to start calling foul on McCain's gesture.

Heh.
What else is new ...

But they can't distort what the thousands of people hear with their own ears in the speeches Sarah Palin and McCain are telling them, up and down the country.
And these are pretty sizeable crowds ...

171 Joe Six Pack  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:37pm

re: #155 FrogMarch

OT-
I guess there was a major McCain hit piece by the NYTimes - filled with complete lies and distortions .

Anyone see it? Rush said McCain camp is pissed. clearly the NY Times is a propaganda arm for Obama.

"Obama received $109,000 from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in just 2-1/2 years. McCain authored and cosponsored legislation for stricter regulation oversight of both going back to '05 and to '06. The NY Times leaves these details out of their campaign ad disguised as a news story." (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen Here)
» McCain Strikes Back at the NY Times: A Partisan Paper of Record

172 P. Aaron  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:52pm

re: #155 FrogMarch

OT-
I guess there was a major McCain hit piece by the NYTimes - filled with complete lies and distortions .

Anyone see it? Rush said McCain camp is pissed. clearly the NY Times is a propaganda arm for Obama.


Yeah the McCain camp already blasted the Times for it. Calling the article a campaign message for Obama.

173 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:29:56pm

re: #154 vbspurs

Over an hour since McCain's public announcement and NO BARACK OBAMA statement so far.

He's voting Present again.

As soon as his teleprompter comes back on-line, he'll release a statement.

174 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:13pm

re: #16 HelloDare

I was just thinking that, but you bet me.

175 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:24pm
176 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:38pm

The Democrats used Fannie and Freddie as their personal piggy banks.
McCain and the spineless Republicans must hammer this home or this stupid childish nation will vote for Obama. and we can all say hello to The Bill Ayres revolution.

177 jsk1121  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:39pm

re: #162 midwestgak

Again. Remember the Georgia matter? :)

Of course, but that was a foreign policy issue which is not one of Obama's strong suits. I guess we can add the economy to that list as well.

178 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:43pm

re: #170 yma o hyd

Heh.
What else is new ...

But they can't distort what the thousands of people hear with their own ears in the speeches Sarah Palin and McCain are telling them, up and down the country.
And these are pretty sizeable crowds ...

I say this again and I can never say this enough. I'm grateful for the man made invention of the internet!

179 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:48pm

re: #144 Celtic Templar

Couric's interview with Palin

Not related, but why is Couric always holding her neck in promo pix?

To hide the turkey neck wrinkles.

180 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:49pm

McCain is setting an excellent example of leadership.

Barry...go play with yourself for one hour during the debate.

181 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:30:58pm

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

In other news, the seas have announced that they have decided not to recede, after all.


And the world is still experienceing climate change.

182 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:31:21pm

The market "collapses" but all the roofs still stay on the real houses in the real world.

The artificiality of it all.

183 tfc3rid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:31:28pm

re: #53 WrathofG-d

I heard this morning on The Dennis Prager Radio Show (Hello Dennis, who reads LGF) that Bush and The Republicans actually tried to pass a bill to attempt to avoid the problem we are experiencing today in 2003 but it was stopped by the Democrat Congress.

They like to blame Bush & the Republicans for this problem, but they control Congress! (both Houses)

Republicans controlled Congress in 2003...

184 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:31:31pm

re: #166 buzzsawmonkey

He's looking the situation over with his advisers, and realizing that McCain has left him no good options. And he is trying to choose the least damaging of them.

In the meantime, a "Not Present" vote.

He's already said that this suspension was his idea. And then McCain stabbed him in the back by announcing it at 3 PM, after a call at 2:30 PM.

185 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:31:35pm

The One to speak at 4:45... as the Obamatons am get their handkerchiefs and smelling salts ready

186 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:31:41pm

...

187 RaiderDan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:31:52pm

#148

And even if McCain spends the next two days working non-stop in Washington, he can fly down to Mississippi at the last minute and still kick Obama's ass on foreign policy.

Kinda like President George W. Bush flying in on the Abraham Lincoln, but this time there won't be any "Mission Accomplished." debate after Maverick wipes out the Empty Suit.

188 Son Of The Godfather  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:31:52pm

re: #136 runrabbitrun

To paraphrase 'The Last Starfighter', "It'll be a slaughter." "That's the spirit!"


Better quote from The Last Starfighter regarding how un-leaderlike this whole thing is making Obambi look:
"What do we do?!?"
"...We die."

189 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:11pm

re: #178 Egfrow

I say this again and I can never say this enough. I'm grateful for the man made AlGore invention of the internet!

Fixed. Get it right next time, willya?

JAFLW

190 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:12pm

Actually, Obama's flip-flopped so much, he could debate himself.

191 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:19pm

re: #185 Junior

The One to speak at 4:45... as the Obamatons am get their handkerchiefs and smelling salts ready

Any prediction on what he will say. Winner get's a case of Beer!

192 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:49pm

re: #179 doppelganglander

To hide the turkey neck wrinkles.

That was my first thought, being a woman of a certain age...

(and what the heck happened to my first attempt?!?)

193 Mike McDaniel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:52pm

McCain is cunning almost beyond belief.

For the last week, the economic news has dominated...and not to McCain's advantage. The Propaganda Press has covered the fact that the Dems are responsible for this mess, and tried to smear McCain and Bush with the blame.

As to postponing the debate, it was supposed to be about national security...but you could bet that it would be turned to economics within five minutes. Limited chances to score big points under those conditions.

Now, McCain has made himself the Great Problem-Solver who puts Country First.

If Obama comes to Washington, he is The Follower of McCain's Self-Sacrificing Initiative. If Obama does not, he is The Deserter.

And as several posters have pointed out, Sarah Palin is a Governor...and therefore in a position to not stop campaigning.

194 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:53pm

re: #146 Egfrow

He called an "Ecomomic" Pear Harbor, not an Economic 9-11. The point being that Foreign markets are causing a collapse and we were a sleep at the wheel. AIG holdings are more than 80% European. Foreign investors will bail out these companies and own the dept to all that property.

I know what he meant. Inappropriate. No comparison. He's still a jackass.

195 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:57pm

OT: from Ace, discussing Andrew Sullivan's latest insanity:

Their job [the McCain campaign] has nothing to do with reassuring paranoid schizophrenics.

I like it.

196 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:32:57pm

I thought this was a disasterous, cowardly move, but now I think it might just be brilliant. Looking deeper into the polls, it seems that McCain's recent slide is due to the economy and voters blaming Republicans for it. By looking like he's actively solving the problem, it no longer paints him as part of the problem. The only tricky part is making sure the MSM doesn't spin it all a different way.

197 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:33:00pm

I bet you anything Obama says he's going ahead, and campaigning for the Future Of America. That America needs a change of leadership NOW, and anyway, it was his idea in the first place.

You watch. You watch.

198 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:33:18pm

re: #191 Egfrow

Any prediction on what he will say. Winner get's a case of Beer!

I'm betting Mr. Obama is going to Washington ... not sure if he knows how to get there or what to do once he's there, but he can follow in McCain's footsteps ;)

199 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:33:26pm

re: #144 Celtic Templar

Couric's interview with Palin

Not related, but why is Couric always holding her neck in promo pix?

To hide her loosening skin.

200 joncelli  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:33:32pm

re: #191 Egfrow

"John McCain is a poopyhead!" (Well, maybe not in so many words.)

201 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:33:38pm
202 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:33:55pm

re: #117 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.

Her opening remarks should include "Now I understand the role of a Vice President."

(FYI I dinged ya)

203 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:05pm

re: #194 ciaospirit

I know what he meant. Inappropriate. No comparison. He's still a jackass.

Yeah. I agree that he's a Jackass but people listen to what he says. Like E.F. Hutton used to do. (That joke is not for people under 30).

204 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:10pm

re: #174 mattm

I was just thinking that, but you bet me.

What was the bet?

205 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:11pm

I have a bad feeling about this.

206 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:11pm

re: #183 tfc3rid
But not by much. dems could still defeat anything.

207 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:19pm

re: #196 Lizard by the Bay

I thought this was a disasterous, cowardly move, but now I think it might just be brilliant. Looking deeper into the polls, it seems that McCain's recent slide is due to the economy and voters blaming Republicans for it. By looking like he's actively solving the problem, it no longer paints him as part of the problem. The only tricky part is making sure the MSM doesn't spin it all a different way.

And by President Bush going ahead with his proposed 9 PM speech, and pushing the 700 billion bailout plan, it separates McCain from Bush even further.

So far, I see this decision as win-win.

208 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:30pm

re: #191 Egfrow

Any prediction on what he will say. Winner get's a case of Beer!

Probably something like "You know, I have a cell phone and a pager and I'm always in contact with my staff in Washington.... John McCain doesn't even own a cell phone or a pager. He has to go back to Washington in his horse carriage. Now who's out of touch, huh?"

209 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:33pm

re: #199 Dianna

Eventually

Metaphorically

someone will

skin her loosening hide.

210 Joe Six Pack  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:38pm

A Partisan Paper of Record

Today the New York Times launched its latest attack on this campaign in its capacity as an Obama advocacy organization. Let us be clear about what this story alleges: The New York Times charges that McCain-Palin 2008 campaign manager Rick Davis was paid by Freddie Mac until last month, contrary to previous reporting, as well as statements by this campaign and by Mr. Davis himself.

In fact, the allegation is demonstrably false. As has been previously reported, Mr. Davis separated from his consulting firm, Davis Manafort, in 2006. As has been previously reported, Mr. Davis has seen no income from Davis Manafort since 2006. Zero. Mr. Davis has received no salary or compensation since 2006. Mr. Davis has received no profit or partner distributions from that firm on any basis -- weekly, bi-weekly, monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly, semi-annual or annual -- since 2006. Again, zero. Neither has Mr. Davis received any equity in the firm based on profits derived since his financial separation from Davis Manafort in 2006.

Further, and missing from the Times' reporting, Mr. Davis has never -- never -- been a lobbyist for either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Mr. Davis has not served as a registered lobbyist since 2005.

Though these facts are a matter of public record, the New York Times, in what can only be explained as a willful disregard of the truth, failed to research this story or present any semblance of a fairminded treatment of the facts closely at hand. The paper did manage to report one interesting but irrelevant fact: Mr. Davis did participate in a roundtable discussion on the political scene with...Paul Begala.

Again, let us be clear: The New York Times -- in the absence of any supporting evidence -- has insinuated some kind of impropriety on the part of Senator McCain and Rick Davis. But entirely missing from the story is any significant mention of Senator McCain's long advocacy for, and co-sponsorship of legislation to enact, stricter oversight and regulation of both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- dating back to 2006. Please see the attached floor statement on this issue by Senator McCain from 2006.

To the central point our campaign has made in the last 48 hours: The New York Times has never published a single investigative piece, factually correct or otherwise, examining the relationship between Obama campaign chief strategist David Axelrod, his consulting and lobbying clients, and Senator Obama. Likewise, the New York Times never published an investigative report, factually correct or otherwise, examining the relationship between Former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson and Senator Obama, who appointed Johnson head of his VP search committee, until the writing was on the wall and Johnson was under fire following reports from actual news organizations that he had received preferential loans from predatory mortgage lender Countrywide.

Therefore this "report" from the New York Times must be evaluated in the context of its intent and purpose. It is a partisan attack falsely labeled as objective news. And its most serious allegations are based entirely on the claims of anonymous sources, a familiar yet regretful tactic for the paper.

We all understand that partisan attacks are part of the political process in this country. The debate that stems from these grand and sometimes unruly conversations is what makes this country so exceptional. Indeed, our nation has a long and proud tradition of news organizations that are ideological and partisan in nature, the Huffington Post and the New York Times being two such publications. We celebrate their contribution to the political fabric of America. But while the Huffington Post is utterly transparent, the New York Times obscures its true intentions -- to undermine the candidacy of John McCain and boost the candidacy of Barack Obama -- under the cloak of objective journalism.

211 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:38pm

re: #126 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Can I get fries with that?

No, but Mumia can get fried.

212 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:41pm

re: #183 tfc3rid

Republicans controlled Congress in 2003...

"Controlled" is a relative word where Congress is concerned. Remember the 60-vote veto-proof majority needed to pass things. With the linguini-spined Republicans and the vote-in-lockstep Democrats it's a miracle they got ANYthing accomplished of merit in 2003. Oh, wait...

JAFLW

213 Iron Fist  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:55pm

re: #93 winston06


That is exactly how this needs to be framed. Barry O is too busy running for office to do due diligence to his duties as a Senator.

214 formercorpsman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:34:55pm

re: #193 Mike McDaniel


Actually, this comes from his time when he was "tied up"

215 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:09pm

re: #205 FrogMarch

I have a bad feeling about this.

No, don't.

I have a bad feeling about the Couric Palin interview, but not this.

216 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:10pm

Send Palin in to debate the Messiah.

217 Mr. Sandman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:27pm

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

218 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:30pm

re: #208 Junior

Probably something like "You know, I have a cell phone and a pager and I'm always in contact with my staff in Washington.... John McCain doesn't even own a cell phone or a pager. He has to go back to Washington in his horse carriage. Now who's out of touch, huh?"

LOL!

219 Mike McDaniel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:38pm

I'll also point out that doing this puts McCain at the very heart of the debate about this crisis...a position from which he can bash the Dems responsible.

Notably Barack Hussein Obama and his advisors.

220 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:39pm

Don't know but McCain has made this one hell of an interesting campaign season. He makes Obama look boring and old ...

221 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:53pm
222 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:56pm

re: #174 mattm

I was just thinking that, but you bet me.

Cut out the wagering - sheesh.

223 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:35:57pm

re: #182 Ojoe

The market "collapses" but all the roofs still stay on the real houses in the real world.

The artificiality of it all.

Spoken like an architect!

224 formercorpsman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:36:18pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

Shit, you figured it out that quick.

225 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:36:20pm

re: #188 Son Of The Godfather

Better quote from The Last Starfighter regarding how un-leaderlike this whole thing is making Obambi look:
"What do we do?!?"
"...We die."

We could also go on at length from The Hitchhiker's Guide here (We're all gonna die!), but one might as well just read the book...

(Obama, candidate with a brain the size of the planet, and nobody to appreciate it)

226 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:36:39pm

re: #193 Mike McDaniel

McCain is cunning almost beyond belief.

For the last week, the
economic news has dominated...and not to McCain's advantage. The
Propaganda Press has covered the fact that the Dems are responsible for
this mess, and tried to smear McCain and Bush with the blame.

As to postponing the debate, it was supposed
to be about national security...but you could bet that it would be
turned to economics within five minutes. Limited chances to score big
points under those conditions.

Now, McCain has made himself the Great Problem-Solver who puts Country First.

If Obama comes to Washington, he is The Follower of McCain's Self-Sacrificing Initiative. If Obama does not, he is The Deserter.

And as several posters have pointed out, Sarah Palin is a Governor...and therefore in a position to not stop campaigning.


Would the foreign policty debate now be the last debate, which would mean McCain can finish the debates on a high note?

227 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:36:39pm

re: #184 vbspurs

He's already said that this suspension was his idea. And then McCain stabbed him in the back by announcing it at 3 PM, after a call at 2:30 PM.

In other words, he's lying again.

228 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:36:41pm

re: #191 Egfrow

Any prediction on what he will say. Winner get's a case of Beer!

He will say that a candidate running for the highest office in the land should be able to both campaign and participate in the bail out debate. He will say he can handle both and insinuate that obviously McCain can't. Just my guess?

229 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:36:43pm

re: #196 Lizard by the Bay

I thought this was a disasterous, cowardly move, but now I think it might just be brilliant. Looking deeper into the polls, it seems that McCain's recent slide is due to the economy and voters blaming Republicans for it. By looking like he's actively solving the problem, it no longer paints him as part of the problem. The only tricky part is making sure the MSM doesn't spin it all a different way.

The MSM will try to spin it any way they can.

But, will it stick?

JAFLW

230 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:05pm

re: #216 FrogMarch

They could move the VP debate up. McCain should suggest that.

231 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:05pm

This is why it's not a bad idea, to those who have bad feelings about McCain's startling news today.

If the rest of the campaign is about the economy, McCain/Palin will lose. Full stop. No contest. Obama's President.

And it looked very like that would be the case, because this isn't going to go away any time soon.

232 engrpat  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:14pm

I think what happened when McCain announced the suspension of his campaign the Obama people were forced to make a decision. What would hurt him most: the debates where the MSM can spin it even or maybe a win for him or having to place a actual vote on this and be held accountable it. There is no way he wants to vote on this and have to defend it. By not suspending his campaign this is his way of voting "present."

233 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:14pm

re: #148 Intrepid

The MSM will never spin anything in favor of McCain no matter what he does, so they're basically irrelevant right now.

What is apparent is that John McCain is halting the stump speeches for a few days in order to go to Washington and do his job as senator and try to get some sort of resolution for this bill.

No matter what Harry Reid says ("They need to stay away [meaning McCain/Obama], because it will become a photo-op") it is the job of the US senate to do the work to get this thing done, in some fashion or another.

And even if McCain spends the next two days working non-stop in Washington, he can fly down to Mississippi at the last minute and still kick Obama's ass on foreign policy.

I think he should stop the speeches, but still do the debate. It's not like he needs to prepare, unlike the 0 in his Kaplan Presidential Debate Prep course.

234 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:19pm
235 jsk1121  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:25pm

re: #191 Egfrow

Any prediction on what he will say. Winner get's a case of Beer!

Uhhhhhhhhh....etc.

236 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:31pm

re: #192 scottishbuzzsaw

Ha, I think I'm about that certain age too. I lost some weight and managed to look worse.

237 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:32pm

re: #183 tfc3rid

Republicans controlled Congress in 2003...

The margins were too small to take a bill ouf of committee iwth more than 60% consensus. It wasn't the Republicans blocking this needed reform.

238 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:42pm

re: #224 formercorpsman

Shit, you figured it out that quick.

His brilliance is staggering...

239 Florida Lady  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:43pm

According to the McCain campaign, Obama tried to call McCain this morning, but didn't reach him. McCain was meeting with his advisors.

So Obama is purposely distorting the truth!

Anyone surprised?

240 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:50pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

This must be your shameful political stunt. Trying to get attention?

241 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:37:56pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

GAZE

242 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:12pm

re: #227 Dianna

In other words, he's lying again.

We'll see. If he can prove this, then it'll look bad for McCain. If he is lying, game over.

243 Rancher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:13pm

McCain is also suspending ads.

244 tfc3rid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:17pm

re: #161 Egfrow

Just a prediction; The Truthers and Kossacks are going to start claiming that the Election will be postponed and allow GWB to retain Emergency powers and stay president.

No question about it...

245 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:32pm

re: #225 runrabbitrun

We could also go on at length from The Hitchhiker's Guide here (We're all gonna die!), but one might as well just read the book...

(Obama, candidate with a brain ego the size of the planet, and nobody to appreciate it)

Fixed it

246 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:40pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

We need buzzsawmonkey to come up with a "Mr. Sandman" song parody, stat!

247 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:50pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

Where you from Sandman. The West Coast? :)

248 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:51pm

re: #223 Dianna

Well yeah.

Houses are real things after all.

If you maintain them they will shelter people for generations.

Anyway if you look outside your door, you will see that this problem doesn't influence the real things in a physical way.

Which is very hopeful, it will be easier to fix than the damage of a big earthquake for instance.

249 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:38:52pm

re: #210 Joe Six Pack

Thanks.

Pinchy's little penis is firmly planted up Obama's ass.

250 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:39:03pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

Cool, house troll is awake ... Top of the afternoon to you ... Got any good talking points for us?

251 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:39:11pm

T. Boone Pickens does not play well with others.

252 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:39:29pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

HaHa! We'll see. "Left Upper cut to the glass jaw' Obama goes down on a knee!"

253 vagabond trader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:39:31pm

Chances are fairly good that if the Obama lips are moving, he's lying.

254 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:39:44pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

Come on. Your candidate is one HUGE gimmick. Get real.

255 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:39:48pm

re: #250 Celtic Templar

Cool, house troll is awake ... Top of the afternoon to you ... Got any good talking points for us?

Charles left the registration open yesterday, and over 200 people signed up right?

Obama is on!

256 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:39:54pm

re: #241 doppelganglander

GAZE

Double GAZE GAZE

257 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:18pm

He looks shell-shocked.

258 kcladderman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:29pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

GAZE

259 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:32pm

re: #253 vagabond trader

Chances are fairly good that if the Obama lips are moving, he's lying.

*gasp* Referring to a black man's lips! RACIST!

/

260 dhg4  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:43pm

From Sen. McCain's attack on the NYT yesterday:

Statement by Senator John McCain, May 25, 2006:

Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.

The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.

The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator's examination of the company's accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.

For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.

I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

So the Senator foresaw the problem and Sen. Obama didn't support his efforts. Now the failure to act has resulted in a crisis, and Sen. Obama won't now engage in bi-partisan efforts to solve the problem.

I hope that when he sees that he's unilaterally disarming, that McCain will go back on the campaign trail. But at least he can claim to be serious about governing and not just about campaigning.

261 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:44pm

What is the pin on his lapel?

262 Master Shake  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:44pm

I love the Obamuhhh-trons spinning this a McCain being afraid to debate Obamuhhh. On foreign policy.....

"Uhhhhh ... errrrrrrrr ... ummmmmmmmmmmmmm ... RACIST! ... uhhhhhhh ... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ... uhhhhhhhhhhh ... QUAGMIRE! ... ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... errrrrrrrrr ... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh ... HOPE! ... errrrrrrrrrrrrrr ... uhhhhhhhhhh ... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ... CHANGE!"

And just imagine what he would sound like WITHOUT a teleprompter....

263 Rednek  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:45pm

re: #176 FrogMarch

The Democrats used Fannie and Freddie as their personal piggy banks.
McCain and the spineless Republicans must hammer this home or this stupid childish nation will vote for Obama. and we can all say hello to The Bill Ayres revolution.

Maybe Bill Ayers face will be on new dollar bills.....or food ration cards or something.

264 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:46pm

re: #234 buzzsawmonkey

Right. Doing the job he is currently paid to do is a "shameful political gimmick," and Obama trying to duck out of doing the job he is currently paid to do is some sort of noble action.

How is it over there in Bizarro World?

Agree buzz, Obama's been running for Potus since he came to Washington. He couldn't find his way to the Capital.

My hat's off to McCain.

265 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:52pm

Here's Obama.... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

266 joncelli  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:53pm

re: #257 vbspurs

He looks shell-shocked.

Who?

267 RickZ  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:55pm

#230 HelloDare

They could move the VP debate up. McCain should suggest that.

Last I heard, Biden is supposed to be a Senator, too.

268 zenren  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:40:58pm

re: #191 Egfrow

Any prediction on what he will say. Winner get's a case of Beer!

Ah....er...um...well...uh...uh...

269 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:05pm

"We have to act SWIFTLY, but we have to get it RIGHT"

He sputtered out Right like a slap to McCain's face.

270 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:09pm

re: #255 vbspurs

Charles left the registration open yesterday, and over 200 people signed up right?

Obama is on!

I

271 Spiny Norman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:29pm

re: #234 buzzsawmonkey

Right. Doing the job he is currently paid to do is a "shameful political gimmick," and Obama trying to duck out of doing the job he is currently paid to do is some sort of noble action.

How is it over there in Bizarro World?

Obambi is paid to vote "present". That is enough to make him Messiah, or so it seems.

272 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:31pm

Here we go.

Obama: It was all my idea, and McCain cheated off of me.

273 Outrider  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:38pm

re: #53 WrathofG-d

I heard this morning on The Dennis Prager Radio Show (Hello Dennis, who reads LGF) that Bush and The Republicans actually tried to pass a bill to attempt to avoid the problem we are experiencing today in 2003 but it was stopped by the Democrat Congress.

They like to blame Bush & the Republicans for this problem, but they control Congress! (both Houses)

This one?

In 2005, the Senate Banking Committee, then under Republican control, adopted a strong reform bill, introduced by Republican Sens. Elizabeth Dole, John Sununu and Chuck Hagel, and supported by then chairman Richard Shelby. The bill prohibited the GSEs from holding portfolios, and gave their regulator prudential authority (such as setting capital requirements) roughly equivalent to a bank regulator. In light of the current financial crisis, this bill was probably the most important piece of financial regulation before Congress in 2005 and 2006. All the Republicans on the Committee supported the bill, and all the Democrats voted against it. Mr. McCain endorsed the legislation in a speech on the Senate floor. Mr. Obama, like all other Democrats, remained silent.


WSJ

274 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:49pm

plagiarizing McCain's written comments.
'me, me, me, me,' The One.

275 PAgirlinNC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:50pm

Obama is speaking now. Does anybody else hate the way he speaks? (not just the words...) He does a little extended hissing sound on words that end in "s."

276 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:56pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

That the best you can do?

Pathetic.

Why are you so in the tank for a red diaper doper baby Marxist to take up residence in the White House?

277 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:41:57pm

re: #266 joncelli

Who?

Obama is talking.

278 vagabond trader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:42:09pm

re: #259 Lizard by the Bay

Since I'm not voting for him, that's a foregone conclusion according to most librals.

279 maddogg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:42:19pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

Jeeze, the quality of trolls has gone down. At least try to do someting a little more original. As trolls go, you are definately middle of the bell curve. Not even interesting enough for me to get nasty with, and I get nasty easily. Go back to Lake Woebegone.

280 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:42:27pm

re: #159 HelloDare

He's polling.

he's crapping his pants.

281 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:42:31pm

Oh, here we go.... it was all my idea!

Selfless promoter

282 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:42:43pm

Obama's statement so far: Blah blah blah blah greed, blah blah special interests, blah blah I called McCain first.

Bullshit. There is no way on earth he made that phone call.

283 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:42:45pm

lre: #272 vbspurs

Here we go.

Obama: It was all my idea, and McCain cheated off of me.

Haha ... Obama, the president who thought of it first, but left it for better men to do ;) Yay for Obama.

284 Catttt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:07pm
A senior McCain adviser, Mark Salter, said the campaign would suspend all advertising and campaign events until a workable deal is reached on the bailout proposal — but only if the Obama campaign agrees to do the same.

So if Barry DOES go, he will be saying that Senator McCain is right.

If Barry DOES NOT go, he will look like a spoiled brat who puts himself before his country, and the debate will go on.

I like it.

285 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:12pm

re: #157 maddogg

To keep her empty head from floating away.

I hear it weighs 60 courics.

286 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:13pm

"Innocent homeowners" are the reason we are in this mess in the first place, Obama...

287 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:16pm

re: #247 midwestgak

Where you from Sandman. The WestLeft Coast? :)

fixed myself

288 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:19pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

Um...no.

Integrity is based on duty; McCain's duty is to be in the Senate this week.

289 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:20pm

Obama is now trying to weasel his way into saying that his leadership has been ignored by McCain, and I can see where it's going to lead from here.

He's leaking words on FNC right now.

290 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:21pm

re: #275 PAgirlinNC

Obama is speaking now. Does anybody else hate the way he speaks? (not just the words...) He does a little extended hissing sound on words that end in "s."

Um, uhh, uh, I initiated this call, aaand, uh, I think this should proceed as i had structured after a rally and give, umm, uhh, a joint statement about some broad principles, err, uhh....

291 republic  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:26pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

What about the confirmed, factual accounts of Obama's political career getting started in William Ayers home, and that he and Obama have had a very close, very personal relationship for many years.

Remember Mr. Sandman, that William Ayers is an unrepentant murderer and terrorist!

292 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:29pm
293 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:41pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.


Well i guess i agree ..how shameful to put the economy of our country on center stage than his campaign or his pursuit of the Presidency..
How dare him try to do something like..be a leader in the Senate..How does he sleep at night?
goodnight mr. sandman

294 Alouette  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:47pm

re: #144 Celtic Templar

Couric's interview with Palin

Not related, but why is Couric always holding her neck in promo pix?

Cover up her sagging neck skin.

295 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:43:54pm

0bama wants a bi-partisan commission to study this economic bailout thing-y....until the nation is in Depression and only he can save it.
That's why he's debating an empty chair Friday.

296 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:01pm

re: #289 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Obama is now trying to weasel his way into saying that his leadership has been ignored by McCain, and I can see where it's going to lead from here.

He's leaking words on FNC right now.

Isn't quite "leadership" if those around you are ignoring you ... Obama needs a new dictionary.

297 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:09pm

re: #242 vbspurs

They'd have to release a tape of the conversation. This will not happen.

298 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:09pm

re: #292 taxfreekiller

ramadamadingdown

299 MichaelAsher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:15pm

Obama would stop everything to meet with his Hollywood friends --

Obama Goes Hollywood with "Bill & Barry Comedy Hour"

300 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:19pm

re: #252 Egfrow

HaHa! We'll see. "Left Upper cut to the glass jaw' Obama goes down on a knee!"

DOWN GOES BARRY! DOWN GOES BARRY! DOWN GOES BARRY!

301 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:20pm

Obama...

innocent home owners vs. wall street greed

*paraphrase*

302 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:21pm

He's taking questions.

303 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:24pm

Wallstreet CEO' money?

Hey Obama... what about Jim Johnson and your other friends?

304 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:36pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

Are you the Blood Red Sandman Lordi sung about?

/Because that statement seems as decayed as the Lordi band members look in their costumes.

305 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:40pm

reporters buying every word that POS is saying.

306 vagabond trader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:42pm

re: #281 Junior

Betcha he and Michelle stomp around crying "No fair no fair!"

307 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:43pm

Well, McCain and Obama now have one thing in common. They are both blaming Wall Street for this crisis. Socialism is winning.

308 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:44:58pm

Obama complaining, whining, and dissembling.

309 RedPepper  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:03pm

Obama is speaking right now.

And he's doing what he does best - saying nothing at all ! with the maximum amount of verbiage possible !

/o lord when will it be over?

310 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:05pm

re: #231 vbspurs

This is why it's not a bad idea, to those who have bad feelings about McCain's startling news today.

If the rest of the campaign is about the economy, McCain/Palin will lose. Full stop. No contest. Obama's President.

And it looked very like that would be the case, because this isn't going to go away any time soon.

I respectfully disagree. I think this is a bad move. It makes McCain look like he's running away from Obama.
Unless Obama receives secret help from the media and/or a teleprompter - Obama generally sucks in these debates. I think we need 3 good debates so that McCain can make Obama look like the piker he is. (Of course McCain could receive horribly unfair treatment by the DNC media, and then all bets are off)

311 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:06pm

I guess Mr. Sandman fell asleep.

312 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:07pm

O wants to make a statement about his"Raw" principles.

Don't reward Wallstreet CEO's...who work for me.

313 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:09pm

re: #246 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

We need buzzsawmonkey to come up with a "Mr. Sandman" song parody, stat!

I want somebody to caption http://adams22.homeip.net/cache/ion/IMG_2248.jpg and put it up on
icanhascheezburger with the appropriate LGF caption in honor of Mister Sandman.

The little green ribbons remind me of what I think Sandman is.

314 talon_262  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:12pm

re: #21 Occasional Reader

He's going to solo-debate, right there on national television?

Eww!

You know, Obama does fancy himself a Master Debater...

;-P

315 PAgirlinNC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:14pm

He's actually taking questions!?! This should be good...

316 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:27pm

re: #305 newsjunkie_ky

reporters buying every word that POS is saying.

They ain't buying it man, they're selling it ... to everyone of us ...

317 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:29pm

Ha! He smoked you.

318 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:32pm

re: #297 Dianna

They'd have to release a tape of the conversation. This will not happen.

Quite right.

319 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:45:56pm

High drama, I hope that it is Youtube worthy when McCain strides into the Senate chamber and says something like, "Ladies and Gentlemen, let's get to work."

320 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:08pm

Obama's claiming this was his idea?

Sorry, Barry, I guess we all missed the announcement. It's scandalous how little attention you get from the press.

/

321 Last Mohican  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:12pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

Yeah, the troll is right. Screw the economy. It's not a big deal. $700 billion bailout? Whatever! There are 116 other senators (two from each of the 59 states) who can deal with it. The most important issue facing this country right now is political campaigning.

/S

322 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:15pm

re: #310 FrogMarch

I respectfully disagree. I think this is a bad move. It makes McCain look like he's running away from Obama.
Unless Obama receives secret help from the media and/or a teleprompter - Obama generally sucks in these debates. I think we need 3 good debates so that McCain can make Obama look like the piker he is. (Of course McCain could receive horribly unfair treatment by the DNC media, and then all bets are off)

Running away from a foreign policy debate with Obama? Are you kidding?

323 Rancher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:24pm

Obama says he called McCain and McCain said... what ever. McCain says he didn't answer the call.

324 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:28pm

re: #250 Celtic Templar

Cool, house troll is awake ... Top of the afternoon to you ... Got any good talking points for us?

Something or other about a cheap win.

325 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:31pm

Obama. What a loser. "Our staffs are working on a joint statements"

You know, cause statements work so well. Ask the UN.

What a joke this guy is.

326 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:33pm

Obama speaking now;

"Telepromoter.exe fails to load, error code 1002 Abort, retry, fail. uh....."

327 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:35pm

I called my Sen. today to oppose this bailout. Somehow I don't think calling Chris Dodd did any good.

328 Outrider  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:37pm

re: #288 Dianna

Um...no.

Integrity is based on duty; McCain's duty is to be in the Senate this week.

He is after all still a sitting Senator. Oh wait.. So is the other guy.

329 Spiny Norman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:46:53pm

re: #272 vbspurs

Here we go.

Obama: It was all my idea, and McCain cheated off of me.

What is this, a schoolyard now?

Nice little whine there, Barry, would you like some fresh Brie with that?

330 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:01pm

So far my # 228 is looking good:

re: #191 Egfrow

Any prediction on what he will say. Winner get's a case of Beer!

He will say that a candidate running for the highest office in the land should be able to both campaign and participate in the bail out debate. He will say he can handle both and insinuate that obviously McCain can't. Just my guess?

331 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:08pm

re: #286 vbspurs

Ahem - not all of us!

332 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:09pm

re: #323 Rancher

Obama says he called McCain and McCain said... what ever. McCain says he didn't answer the call.

I wouldn't answer either - I'd figure he was asking for money or help on foreign policy

333 HippieforLife  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:18pm

Obama seems to forget that he is a member of Congress. He is on the radio now berating them.

How a debate on foreign policy at this point would help anything is beyond me. McCain is doing the right thing by going back to Washington to do the job he is getting paid for!

334 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:28pm

Gee, 0, if the person responsible to solve this problem in 40 days will be in office (and IF it is YOU) will you THEN buckle down and do some governing?
Or is perpetual campaigning more your style?

335 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:33pm

re: #326 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obama speaking now;

"Telepromoter.exe fails to load, error code 1002 Abort, retry, fail. uh....."

That actually did make me Laugh Out Loud.

336 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:35pm

Obama

...people need form the person who in 40 days will be responsible for this mess.

Arrogant, you're not elected yet.
Dumb, the pres elected dosen't take office till Jan 20.

337 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:37pm
338 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:38pm

I suspect that we are reaching the point where when Obama enters the Senate members of his own party might give him something to hold while the adults are busy.

339 kansas  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:47:58pm

This won't work.

340 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:01pm

re: #321 Last Mohican

Yeah,
the troll is right. Screw the economy. It's not a big deal. $700
billion bailout? Whatever! There are 116 other senators (two from each
of the 59 states) who can deal with it. The most important issue facing
this country right now is political campaigning.

/S

It's 57 states, not 59!

341 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:03pm

re: #315 PAgirlinNC

He's actually taking questions!?! This should be good...

for a few question's.
then he'll be looking around for his waffle.

342 vagabond trader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:12pm

re: #327 mattm

Heh, you are correct. His office answers emails four months later. A real people person our senior senator.

343 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:18pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

Sandman,
Please check your email. Markos Moulitsas Zúniga wants his brain back.

344 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:28pm

re: #314 talon_262

I always wanted to own a Bait and Tackle shop, just so I could call it "Master Baiters".

345 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:30pm

re: #339 kansas

This won't work.

What won't work. (Context?)

346 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:31pm

re: #331 Dianna

Ahem - not all of us!

What I meant are the homeowners who knew they couldn't afford housing, but were given their American Dream, instead of earning it the old-fashioned way.

347 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:32pm

re: #286 vbspurs

"Innocent homeowners" are the reason we are in this mess in the first place, Obama...

More like gullible homeowners who didn't read the fine print, and shady mortgage lenders that loaned money to people who couldn't afford it.

348 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:42pm

re: #334 mean Gene

Gee, 0, if the person responsible to solve this problem in 40 days will be in office

Er, 40 days?

349 Kincsem  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:48:48pm

This is not a problem!

This is an OPPORTUNITY!

Send in the Saracuda. She'll take care of Obama.

350 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:03pm

Obama: "I guess he was more certain in his mind, I thought he was mulling it over"

I can see it now. Iran calls him, says they are going to bomb our interests. Obama does nothing. Iran bombs. Obama comes on and says "well damn, I thought they were just mulling it over... but I guess they were more certain in their minds."

351 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:16pm

He is backing away, and will not suspend his own campaign, I think.

352 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:17pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit.

The difference is that the 'clear momentum' was given Obama because of hasty conclusions made by economically uninformed emotional-reactive voters, and McCain will gain the initiative back because of those voters who see the excellent judgment in a senator/presidential candidate's desire to slow down a runaway train and examine its dynamics before it might become the scene of a national accident.

353 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:20pm

re: #267 RickZ

#230 HelloDare

Last I heard, Biden is supposed to be a Senator, too.

Yeah, but he is not the leader of his party and will not be president in a few months.

354 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:33pm

So Bambi says Sen. Tom Coburn suggested he contact McCain and put out a joint statement on the economy. I'd like to hear Sen. Coburn's take on that.

355 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:34pm

re: #344 Lizard by the Bay

I always wanted to own a Bait and Tackle shop, just so I could call it "Master Baiters".

Well, now you own an insurance company. Is that any consolation?

356 tfc3rid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:41pm

re: #339 kansas

This won't work.

What won't work?

357 GOP Goalie  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:44pm

someone seriously needs to count the 'uhhs' and 'umms'

like guessing the number of jelly beans in a jar.

I'm guessing 3 digits for this little press conference alone.

(five minutes later)

wow, he just said the most important thing they (Obambi and McCain) should do is issue a joint statement saying how important it is to do something. Isn't that kind of like having a meeting to decide to have a meeting?

loser. absolute loser.

358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:46pm

re: #322 Celtic Templar

Running away from a foreign policy debate with Obama? Are you kidding?

If this foreign policy debate gets rescheduled to be the last debate, then McCain will finish the debates on a high note!

359 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:54pm

I just listened to Obama talk and I have no Idea what his point was.

360 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:49:58pm

"If I can be helpful I am prepared to be anywhere any time."

Oh good, he's talking to Pelosi and Reid. I feel better.

361 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:08pm

re: #359 Egfrow

I just listened to Obama talk and I have no Idea what his point was.

That was his point.

362 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:10pm

re: #304 mitthrawnurdo

Blood Red Sandman...

/geez, can I do anything right? I can't even embed a link properly.

363 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:16pm

re: #295 mean Gene

0bama wants a bi-partisan commission to study this economic bailout thing-y....until the nation is in Depression and only he can save it.
That's why he's debating an empty chair Friday.

That's the very thing he chided McCain for suggesting last week! He's just come out and spoke for the very thing he spoke against.

He was agin' it, 'fore he wuz fer it!

364 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:17pm

Wow, a pertinent question from the press corps:

Whatever happens, don't you think it is important for you and Senator McCain be in Washington now?

365 kcladderman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:27pm

re: #353 HelloDare

Yeah, but he is not the leader of his party and will not be president in a few months.

All the more reason to get back to work in congress.

366 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:29pm

re: #311 ciaospirit

I guess Mr. Sandman fell asleep.

passed out..

367 Malatrope  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:37pm

McCain is a Senator. Obama is a Senator. Why don't they just propose to have the debate on the floor of the, um, you know... senate.

This would probably fluster Harry Reid right into a nice shade of bright red.

368 Outrider  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:40pm

Wait! Isn't Sen Obama supposed to there already? lol

Video: Obama says Banking “my committee”, not on it

369 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:42pm

re: #359 Egfrow

I just listened to Obama talk and I have no Idea what his point was.

If it makes you feel better, neither did he.

370 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:42pm

re: #358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If this foreign policy debate gets rescheduled to be the last debate, then McCain will finish the debates on a high note!

And that would be outstanding ... ding for you - nice thought ..

371 republic  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:45pm

re: #337 taxfreekiller

Sandblow

you ever fly off a carrier deck
you ever fly over Hanoi
you ever get shot at and hit by a Sam missile
you ever get your ass kicked 5 1/2 years and live to tell the tale

or do you look at a mirror and see sand blowing around in a mindless way


"It's" a leftist kook tfk, you can bear facts to them, or their heads explode.

372 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:50pm

re: #359 Egfrow

I just listened to Obama talk and I have no Idea what his point was.

Nothing new, there.

373 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:54pm

re: #295 mean Gene

0bama wants a bi-partisan commission to study this economic bailout thing-y....until the nation is in Depression and only he can save it.
That's why he's debating an empty chair Friday.

Yeah, right.

This is do or die, any decision is better than none time. It may be that the bailout is - in retrospect - a bad idea. Or it may be the best idea ever (I seriously doubt that, because I'm not a socialist or an idiot about numbers). But no action is a disaster. This is a game of perceptions, and if the perception is of wavering stupidity and panic, a panic there will be, and it will not be pretty.

Forget the studies, Barry. Act.

374 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:50:54pm

re: #347 doppelganglander

More like gullible homeowners who didn't read the fine print, and shady mortgage lenders that loaned money to people who couldn't afford it.

Also, some level of shady homeowners, who took on loans they knew they couldn't afford, but figured they could default, flip the house for a higher price, and still make money.

375 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:12pm

Medved just reported:

McCain canceled the Letterman show. He was replaced by Keith Olbermann. Sounds like a joke. Medved said it isn't.

376 RedPepper  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:17pm

re: #310 FrogMarch

(Of course McCain could receive horribly unfair treatment by the DNC media, and then all bets are off)

McCain will receive horribly unfair treatment from the DNC media.

Whenever they get the opportunity.

Count on it.

377 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:17pm

re: #275 PAgirlinNC

Obama is speaking now. Does anybody else hate the way he speaks? (not just the words...) He does a little extended hissing sound on words that end in "s."

I can't take the cadence - that's what makes me hit the change button on the remote.

378 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:17pm

re: #366 HoosierHoops

passed out..

Bomb throwing troll. Standing back to admire his handywork.

379 RickZ  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:17pm

re: #334 mean Gene

Gee, 0, if the person responsible to solve this problem in 40 days will be in office (and IF it is YOU) will you THEN buckle down and do some governing?
Or is perpetual campaigning more your style?

If Obama, God forbid, wins, he'll start running for re-election in 2012 on January 20th, 2009. All he's ever done in politics is run for something, instead of doing something.

380 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:31pm

Drinking game, every tie The Messiah says "uh" take a drink. Keep a Ambulance handy for the Alcohol Posinong that will occur whit in a few minutes.

381 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:34pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

We have a new entry in the AnneFrance neg-me competition. A compelling entry at that.

382 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:34pm

He is reaffirming the need for the debate to go on -- Friday.

How absurd. Iraq, Afghanistan, NOW? That's like the British Empire talking about India in 1950.

383 vagabond trader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:36pm

Yeah, the Obama should scurry back to DC so he can vote PRESENT!

384 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:46pm

re: #337 taxfreekiller

Sandblow

you ever fly off a carrier deck
you ever fly over Hanoi
you ever get shot at and hit by a Sam missile
you ever get your ass kicked 5 1/2 years and live to tell the tale

or do you look at a mirror and see sand blowing around in a mindless way


Sandblow couldn't have made it through Navy bootcamp.
As a "passenger", I've done #1 (and 1a) three times. I cannot imagine 2, 3, and 4. I just saluted, and hoped for the best.

385 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:46pm

Obama just said in his statement..."if you need me, call me".

WTF?

386 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:48pm

Obama: "If you need me, call me" - to Congress.

What a dope.

387 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:50pm
re: #311 ciaospirit

I guess Mr. Sandman fell asleep

.re: #366 HoosierHoops

passed out..

Glass Jaws are the newest rage. Sweep up on Isle 217!

388 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:51:52pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman


So Obama has put the country first? Please explain when.
Hanging with a known bomber is good for the country.

389 republic  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:01pm

re: #353 HelloDare

Yeah, but he is not the leader of his party and will not be president in a few months.

Joe Biden

"Oh, FDR will go on tv and get this all worled out."

"Stand up Chuck"

390 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:08pm

re: #369 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If it makes you feel better, neither did he.

Echo.

391 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:10pm

Obama to McCain....

If you need me call me.....


Leadership!

392 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:28pm

re: #302 vbspurs

He's taking questions.

Oh, this will be good!

393 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:30pm

re: #386 Junior

Obama: "If you need me, call me" - to Congress.

Obama = Blondie.

394 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:46pm

re: #375 HelloDare

Medved just reported:

McCain canceled the Letterman show. He was replaced by Keith Olbermann. Sounds like a joke. Medved said it isn't.

More free Obama pimping for Obama.

395 HippieforLife  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:49pm

I am laughing along with Sean and Sen. Lieberman talking about how Obama just said "if you need me, just call me".

Ah, there's a leader we can count on. NOT!

396 CanuckInTN  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:57pm

re: #5 Celtic Templar

OBAMA is going to debate himself ... That will be fun!

Sorry to bring a foreign reference into this...but I'm from Alberta Canada, and we used to have a great Premier (Governor) there by the name of Ralph Klein...look him up sometime.

One election campaign, the leader of the Liberal Party kept challenging him to a series of debates, and one time when a reporter asked him about it, he answered deadpan "Mr. Decor appears to be a master debater, perhaps he should debate himself."

397 WrathofG-d  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:52:57pm

re: #183 tfc3rid

seems it was 2205

398 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:05pm

That laugh of his was chilling. It's like he's making fun of America.

399 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:16pm

re: #382 vbspurs

He is reaffirming the need for the debate to go on -- Friday.

How absurd. Iraq, Afghanistan, NOW? That's like the British Empire talking about India in 1950.

But thats what he's been cramming all week. You expect him to be able to change just like that? RACIST!

400 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:36pm

Maybe Friday evening McCain shoulds just stride into the room as Obama and Lehrer are starting to play with each other. "Hope I'm not interrupting you two, I was delayed by work."

401 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:36pm

re: #376 RedPepper

McCain will receive horribly unfair treatment from the DNC media.

Whenever they get the opportunity.

Count on it.

As opposed to now? If he does, it will likely be the Palin effect for McCain ... I can spin it for everyone around me, the man is doing his job first as a Senator. Obama only knows campaigning, no surprise that he doesn't realize how important the economy is.

402 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:39pm

re: #378 Hard Right

Bomb throwing troll. Standing back to admire his handywork.

Why does he use a firecracker?

403 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:40pm

re: #337 taxfreekiller

Sandblow

you ever fly off a carrier deck
you ever fly over Hanoi
you ever get shot at and hit by a Sam missile
you ever get your ass kicked 5 1/2 years and live to tell the tale

or do you look at a mirror and see sand blowing around in a mindless way

I updinged you and got the coolest error..all sorts of crazy code..
Maybe I clicked too hard.

404 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:44pm

re: #385 jorline

Obama just said in his statement..."if you need me, call me".

WTF?

Priceless.

PLEASE, Obama, keep talking!

405 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:53pm

If you need me call me....

Just not at 3:00am or when I'm eating waffles.

/BHO

406 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:53:59pm

re: #359 Egfrow

I just listened to Obama talk and I have no Idea what his point was.

You're not supposed to. You're just supposed to bask in his warm, glowing, warming glow.

407 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:11pm

re: #381 karmic_inquisitor

We have a new entry in the AnneFrance neg-me competition. A compelling entry at that.

LMAO...I was thinking the same thing...AnneFrance will be hard to beat though. Wasn't it -429 dings?

408 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:11pm

re: #400 lifeofthemind

Maybe Friday evening McCain shoulds just stride into the room as Obama and Lehrer are starting to play with each other. "Hope I'm not interrupting you two, I was delayed by work."

Good one!

409 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:20pm

re: #385 jorline

Great, now "The One" thinks he's freaking Batman...

410 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:26pm

re: #386 Junior

What a dope.

Duh.

411 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:28pm

re: #399 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But thats what he's been cramming all week. You expect him to be able to change just like that? RACIST!

My feelings exactly. If I were McCain, I would say, very well, let's hold the debate, but let it be on the ECONOMY entirely.

Obama would freak. He hasn't been briefed on that yet.

412 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:43pm

re: #386 Junior

Obama: "If you need me, call me" - to Congress.

What a dope.

And when they don't, can McCain put an ad out, "We didn't need Obama then, we don't need him now."

413 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:46pm

re: #398 vbspurs

That laugh of his was chilling. It's like he's making fun of America.

He is mildly amused by us Americans. Many "citizens of the world" find us so.

414 Let's Roll  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:47pm

Headline is now "Obama likely to keep debate as McCain seeks delay"

What liberal media?

415 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:54:58pm

re: #395 HippieforLife

I am laughing along with Sean and Sen. Lieberman talking about how Obama just said "if you need me, just call me".

Ah, there's a leader we can count on. NOT!

So Burt Bacharach is Barry's speechwriter?

416 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:16pm

Obama laughs while the country is in crisis!

And the reporters are asking real questions; Obama is clearly tooting his own horn.

He's honestly putting the election before his country. Astounding.

417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:16pm

re: #385 jorline

Obama just said in his statement..."if you need me, call me".

WTF?

Loop it, from now till November.

418 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:20pm

re: #398 vbspurs

That laugh of his was chilling. It's like he's making fun of America.

America's chickens are coming home to roost. You bet he's laughing.

419 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:20pm

Obama is clearly lost in the forest right now. He's making a very scary appearance for someone who wants to be the next president.

420 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:21pm

re: #411 vbspurs

My feelings exactly. If I were McCain, I would say, very well, let's hold the debate, but let it be on the ECONOMY entirely.

Obama would freak. He hasn't been briefed on that yet.

His 300 advisers have not yet reached a consensus.

421 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:22pm

re: #357 GOP Goalie

wow, he just said the most important thing they (Obambi and McCain) should do is issue a joint statement saying how important it is to do something. Isn't that kind of like having a meeting to decide to have a meeting?

loser. absolute loser.

No kidding!

Obambi wants to submit a written teleprompter statement instead of taking action.

The statement would have to include these words:

[Look to the left teleprompter screen.]

[Now look to the right teleprompter screen.]

[Repeat as needed.]

422 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:26pm

I just noticed The Messiah has two lit flags in front of a black/dark background.

423 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:27pm

re: #405 jcm

Geee what happened to Sand man? LOL

424 zenren  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:32pm

re: #385 jorline

Obama just said in his statement..."if you need me, call me".

WTF?

Wouldn't it be nice if Obama actually took the initiative to solve a problem instead of waiting around - yet again - for someone else to tell him what to do.

425 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:36pm

re: #406 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You're not supposed to. You're just supposed to bask in his warm, glowing, warming glow.

As Hitchens pointed out the other day: Can anyone remember a single line from his "soaring, historic" acceptance speech?

426 capitalist piglet  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:40pm

re: #386 Junior


I wonder if there's a single person in D.C. who's thinking, "You know who we need right now? Barack Obama!"

Call me crazy, but I have my doubts.

427 jsk1121  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:40pm

Even if they do debate on Friday, McCain will stomp Obama, right?

428 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:55:58pm

Like I said earlier, Mr Sandstrawman's drive-by posts are the equivalent of a '76 Gremlin with no muffler and all the windows stuck shut rolling up and firing a single shot from a kid's Old West capgun before grinding the gears and stalling- then having the engine turn over but not start- before having to get out and push to Kosland or DU and brag about the vicious beatdown he put on those nasty RethugliKKKans 'cause he's such a badass with mAD inTRANET SkillZOR!111oneoneeleven

429 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:08pm

re: #344 Lizard by the Bay

I always wanted to own a Bait and Tackle shop, just so I could call it "Master Baiters".

There is in fact a Master Bait and Tackle Shop in Bonita Springs, Florida. My husband and son took pictures and giggled.

430 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:17pm

Now health care and jobs.

431 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:17pm

re: #384 jwb7605

Sandblow couldn't have made it through Navy bootcamp.
As a "passenger", I've done #1 (and 1a) three times. I cannot imagine 2, 3, and 4. I just saluted, and hoped for the best.

Worse, I don't think he'd have made it through Air Force bootcamp...

JAFLW

432 stanleymberg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:22pm

This is a bold and courageous move on McCain's part - and it's also the right move for our country, not for a campaign. This is the man who deserves to be president. John McCain.

433 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:32pm

re: #364 vbspurs

Wow, a pertinent question from the press corps:

Whatever happens, don't you think it is important for you and Senator McCain be in Washington now?

And the answer was?

"ah...um...er...welll....."

434 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:32pm

re: #409 mitthrawnurdo

Great, now "The One" thinks he's freaking Batman...

We're in a crisis, Speaker Pelosi! Switch on the BambiSignal!

435 tfc3rid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:37pm

re: #417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Loop it, from now till November.

Dukakis in the tank moment?

436 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:48pm

Barack "can't I just eat my waffle" Obama's reason for not canceling the debate is that presidents have to handle a bunch of crisis all at once.

437 West Coast Freedom  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:48pm

Why do I see Paulson looking like Dr. Evil saying "One Million Billion no wait One Trillion Dollars"

muhahaha

438 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:49pm

re: #404 Occasional Reader

Priceless.

PLEASE, Obama, keep talking!

We'll get more mileage if Biden chimes in...LOL

439 Max Darkside  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:50pm

re: #412 Celtic Templar

And when they don't, can McCain put an ad out, "We didn't need Obama then, we don't need him now."

Show O saying that then cut over to a picture of a phone, just sitting there, silent for about 15 seconds, then have the screen go black...

440 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:56:51pm

Did Obama really say"If you need me call?"
He is the political equivalent of a 16 year old staring at a telephone.

441 vagabond trader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:03pm

He's a show horse. Waits for everyone else to do the heavy lifting, then jumps in to take credit for any success.

442 Florida Lady  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:06pm

re: #412 Celtic Templar

And when they don't, can McCain put an ad out, "We didn't need Obama then, we don't need him now."


DING, DING, DING . . . We have a winner!

443 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:10pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

And if Obama had chosen to announce a delay and McCaiin had suggested, as Obama now is, that the debates go on, you would be saying that McCain was clearly not putting the country first because he's focused on politics rather than a real crisis.

444 capitalist piglet  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:18pm

re: #398 vbspurs


He laughed? What was the context?

445 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:20pm

re: #407 jorline

LMAO...I was thinking the same thing...AnneFrance will be hard to beat though. Wasn't it -429 dings?

I thank that entry could top 500. It is that good. Insults McCain and all of us in one fell swoop with all the smugness that Anne could deliver.

The only disadvantage that "sleepy" has is there is no "France" in the nic. But any PUMAs out there can take joy in "man" being at the end as they neg the sh*t out of that pos(t).

446 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:20pm

re: #425 Occasional Reader

As Hitchens pointed out the other day: Can anyone remember a single line from his "soaring, historic" acceptance speech?

Nope.

447 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:24pm

re: #403 HoosierHoops

I updinged you and got the coolest error..all sorts of crazy code..
Maybe I clicked too hard.

Only one upding (mine). Try it again. #337 needs more updings.

448 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:36pm

re: #427 jsk1121

Even if they do debate on Friday, McCain will stomp Obama, right?

That would be my play ... McCain just did a serious interruption in Obama's practice for the debate. Apparently the Obama is down in FL for 3 days to get his act together ...

449 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:38pm

re: #431 Just Another Four-letter Word


OOOOOOOOOO man. I'm staying out of this one! 0-:

450 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:44pm

re: #438 jorline

We'll get more mileage if Biden chimes in...LOL

I want to see Obama debate Biden.

451 Catttt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:49pm

Barry = Whiny.

452 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:57:51pm

re: #417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Loop it, from now till November.

Sound bite GOLD. Nay, PLATINUM.

453 maddogg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:00pm

re: #378 Hard Right

Bomb throwing troll. Standing back to admire his handywork.

Do not confuse a bomb with the simple breaking of wind...

/CornFusis

454 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:01pm

re: #409 mitthrawnurdo

Great, now "The One" thinks he's freaking Batman...

Batman - successful businessman, a genius & genuine asskicker? Sorry Barry, try Aqualad instead as a superhero rolemodel.

455 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:03pm

re: #409 mitthrawnurdo

Great, now "The One" thinks he's freaking Batman...

Same Bat Time...same Bat Channel.

456 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:03pm

re: #412 Celtic Templar

And when they don't, can McCain put an ad out, "We didn't need Obama then, we don't need him now."

Oh... perfect ad. Play Obama's line "Call me if you need me" followed by a voice-over... "well, they didn't even need him, so they didn't call. But John McCain was there. Barrack Obama, not needed. Barrack Obama, Not ready to lead"

457 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:03pm

McCain needs to go on the television networks and do the rounds.

458 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:04pm

re: #374 Occasional Reader

Also, some level of shady homeowners, who took on loans they knew they couldn't afford, but figured they could default, flip the house for a higher price, and still make money.

Indeed. I was addicted to those "Flip This House" shows.

459 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:07pm

re: #437 West Coast Freedom

Why do I see Paulson looking like Dr. Evil saying "One Million Billion no wait One Trillion Dollars"

muhahaha

No one is asking where the money is going or where it will actually come from. In fact, I have not heard an actual reason to need the money.

460 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:08pm

re: #385 jorline

Obama just said in his statement..."if you need me, call me".

WTF?

Is Karl Rove writing this stuff?

461 9Iron  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:14pm

If you need me call me? You are joking, right? He didn't really say that.

462 Elcid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:21pm

Ummm….John, if I may call you that. You call me that, in thank you letters for contributions. I don’t know about this “bold gambit”. You know it is going to be used in a not so nice way, by Team Obama.

On the other hand…It does make the annoited one…wince…for NOT thinking country. As to Hairy Reed…”We don’t need a photo op”…This is true “Hairy” what you need to do, is end the bullshit, you Democrats did, (ask Chrissy Dodd or Rahm Emanuel you know, the Democrat FROM Illinois (isn’t that where Chicago is?) who was then part of this mess as an officer that nixed every proposal the Bush Administration, put forth) to have this crisis occur.

463 Rancher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:29pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls

Skewed polls and this ain't his first rodeo so I'm pretty sure that had zero effect on his decision. If nothing else I believe McCain is sincere, if misguided at times.

Hang around and back up your posts pussy.

464 Dalibama  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:53pm

Obama is giving Ted Kennedy a run as the Wizard of Uhs. He is long-winded, wishy-washy, and can't get to the point.

465 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:58:55pm

re: #444 capitalist piglet

He laughed? What was the context?

Ack, I updinged instead of pressing "quote". :P

He laughed in response to a reporter's question about the crisis.

466 capitalist piglet  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:04pm

re: #417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


Excellent idea.

I've heard one local radio show use his booming "Enough!" in strategic spots. Makes me laugh every time.

467 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:05pm

re: #417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Loop it, from now till November.

here...here

468 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:14pm
469 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:23pm

Usually when a big melt down like this occurs, the (D)s in congress are screaming for investigations, hearings, putting the CEO, COO, CFO down to the janitor on the stand.

The

Silence


is

Deafening.

Could it be that an investigation would lead right back to them? That government fiddling in the markets since the CRA are the root cause of the problem?

Nah couldn't be that.
/

470 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:35pm

re: #424 zenren

Wouldn't it be nice if Obama actually took the initiative to solve a problem instead of waiting around - yet again - for someone else to tell him what to do.

He's a special need senator.

471 Rancher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:40pm

re: #357 GOP Goalie

someone seriously needs to count the 'uhhs' and 'umms'

like guessing the number of jelly beans in a jar.

I'm guessing 3 digits for this little press conference alone.

Drinking game!

472 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:48pm

re: #434 Occasional Reader

Instead of the Bat-Signal, you see an "O" pierce the night sky.

473 Racer X  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:56pm

"If you need me, call me".
- Obama

You freaking arrogant prick. Can you not see this financial crisis could be devastating to America?

Hey dumbass - America needs you to get off your campaigning ass and actually work for at least a few days this year. It's what you are getting paid for.

Asshole.

474 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 1:59:58pm

wow. this really shows McCain for the man he is.
he's prepared to sacrifice his campaign for the sake of the country.
what an honourable guy.

475 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:00pm

Well I guess Mccain has to go to Washington and be right in the middle of this whole mess. If it passes, McCain takes the credit. If it fails, I guess we can blame Obama and the Democrats. But if this is how it is going to shake out, then this is going to be the big one, and the whole election is now riding on how it turns out. At least that is how it is starting to appear to me.

476 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:01pm

Gotta go. Have a good evening or morning - depending

477 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:05pm

re: #389 republic

Joe Biden

"Oh, FDR will go on tv and get this all worled out."

"Stand up Chuck"

You must have the Instant Rimshot at the ready for any Biden quotes.

478 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:05pm

Obama should've chosen Governor Janet Napolitano as running mate.

I totally want to look at that mush for 4 years.

479 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:06pm

re: #386 Junior

Obama: "If you need me, call me" - to Congress.

What a dope.


Should they use a pager or do they have to bring out the 'O Signal'?

480 Junior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:07pm

re: #461 9Iron

If you need me call me? You are joking, right? He didn't really say that.

Oh he said it alright.

481 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:14pm

This is when some old Senator channeling Fred Thompson playing Sam Ervin should walk over to Barry, put a hand on his shoulder, use a very politically incorect word for a black man, and tell him it is time to go home.

482 CanuckInTN  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:20pm

re: #461 9Iron

If you need me call me? You are joking, right? He didn't really say that.

What would they need him for...the US Senate doesn't have a rule allowing for votes of "Present", only "Aye" or "Nay".

483 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:23pm

McCain must state unequivocally that he will not debate until the Congress has taken appropriate action on the current crisis. America first.

Let Obama waffle around to his hearts content. Just as he is at this moment. Obama wants to talk about college tuition, etc. Fine, go talk to yourself Senator Barack Idontwantotdealwithitiamthemessiahone.

484 gatorbait  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:23pm

What does one call the memorable event that will occur when Obama debates his own image in a pool of water?

Obamacissus?

485 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:26pm

re: #449 Dustoff-507

OOOOOOOOOO man. I'm staying out of this one! 0-:

Awww come on ... don't hold back! ;-)

486 Outrider  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:28pm

re: #374 Occasional Reader

Also, some level of shady homeowners, who took on loans they knew they couldn't afford, but figured they could default, flip the house for a higher price, and still make money.

Many of them have been on the HGTV for a few years now bragging about "flippen" houses. I remember one old boy in California on HGTV stating how he was able to purchase five houses because of the mortgage terms. His stated intent was to hold them for five years and sell them. I heard the same thing from more than a few of the HGTV guests stating words to that effect.
I'm sure those of you who watch HGTV heard the same thing over the last few years. There is another channel where I watched some kind of house flippen show where I heard the same sentiment discussed, but I'll be daggoned if I can remember the channel now.

487 JustMyView  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:29pm

re: #56 Just_A_Grunt

Does this look like Barry O was going to suspend his campaign like his camp is claiming they proposed at 8:30 this morning?

I don't believe he said he was going to suspend it. What I read is that he called to discuss issuing a joint statement about the crisis.


The Obama campaign said that it had called McCain this morning about releasing a joint statement on principles to govern the financial sector bailout, but that it had no plans to suspend campaigning.

"At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement. "At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."

488 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:30pm

re: #446 unreconstructed rebel

Nope.

I will remember "If you need me, call me" however.

489 Catttt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:44pm

This certainly is the most interesting Presidential race ever, during my lifetime anyway. Maybe ever EVER.

Governor Napolitano says they can't delay the debate because it would inconvenience the press. Okey dokey, gov.

Barry says uh.

490 opnion  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:48pm

Well really , why should Obama rush back to Washington for this crsis?
How many day's did this guy spend on the job befor he began running for President.
He probably doesn't even know where the executive sandbox is,.

491 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:52pm

re: #238 scottishbuzzsaw

His brilliance is staggering...

........and I hope he staggers right back to the bowels of Chicago, whence he came...

hey, you! time for a quick hug 'just because' I miss you, running in and out of the commonroom as we do...

((scottishbuzzsaw))

I hope we get together one morning here for Italian roast and fruitcup again - maybe not till next week as I'm hectic Thursday & Friday a.m., but dasoonah dabettah, hon!

492 iceman1960  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:57pm

Barraks response on economic crisis "If you need me just call"

493 Dasher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:00:58pm

re: #87 unreconstructed rebel

I'm thinking the old fox may have gotten back inside Bammy's OODA loop. We'll see.

You got that right. Obamie won't know how to respond until he consults with his 300 advisers.

494 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:11pm

re: #469 jcm


BINGO!

495 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:14pm

re: #449 Dustoff-507

OOOOOOOOOO man. I'm staying out of this one! 0-:

"I'm ex-AF and I approved this putdown."

JAFLW

496 ashan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:20pm

OMG - I'm sitting here watching BHO reply to McCain's initiative. States that he originated the idea. (Probably a lie.) I notice that while speaking, he turns his head to the right, looks down, then turns his head to left, looks down, right, left and down, back and forth. He has not even once faced front! Never opens his eyes. Even when answering press questions, he faced forward with open eyes just once but bobbed his around. A sure sign of the liar.

Of course, McCain faced forward much of the time. Yep!

497 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:23pm

#217 Mr. Sandman 9/24/08 1:35:27 pm reply quote -41

498 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:24pm

Ok, someone needs to remake this video for Obama. Waiting for that phone call from McCain.

499 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:30pm

I really do hope Obama shows up in Oxford Friday night. It will only emphasize what an empty suit he is, wasting his time on a meaningless circus show, when he already knows that McCain is in Washington trying to get legislation done in Congress.

500 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:31pm

re: #407 jorline

LMAO...I was thinking the same thing...AnneFrance will be hard to beat though. Wasn't it -429 dings?

yea.. I think it will be awhile before mr.sandman gets out of 'A' ball.
annefrance was on another level...
BTW..I wonder if troll venom effects other trolls or are they immune.

501 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:36pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

Come on folks - we are sitting at -39. Go upthread and "dial in" your response to this moron.

502 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:38pm

re: #488 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Did he actually say that in his acceptance speech? Wow.

503 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:40pm

re: #469 jcm

Usually when a big melt down like this occurs, the (D)s in congress are screaming for investigations, hearings, putting the CEO, COO, CFO down to the janitor on the stand.

The

Silence


is

Deafening.

Could it be that an investigation would lead right back to them? That government fiddling in the markets since the CRA are the root cause of the problem?

Nah couldn't be that.
/

Bingo!

504 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:49pm

re: #489 Catttt

This certainly is the most interesting Presidential race ever, during my lifetime anyway. Maybe ever EVER.

Ever. As I said in my book review of Governor Palin's biography, only the 1912 race comes close.

(I'm a historian by degree and a writer by profession)

505 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:50pm

re: #431 Just Another Four-letter Word

Worse, I don't think he'd have made it through Air Force bootcamp...

JAFLW

I made it through AF boot camp. I gained 15 pounds and got out of shape. I work for the Forest Service the year before, I was getting in shape for the PJ entrance test. Took awhile to get back into shape.

506 Dasher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:01:56pm

re: #489 Catttt

This certainly is the most interesting Presidential race ever, during my lifetime anyway. Maybe ever EVER.

Governor Napolitano says they can't delay the debate because it would inconvenience the press. Okey dokey, gov.

Barry says uh.

That is funny

507 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:03pm

re: #445 karmic_inquisitor

I thank that entry could top 500. It is that good. Insults McCain and all of us in one fell swoop with all the smugness that Anne could deliver.

The only disadvantage that "sleepy" has is there is no "France" in the nic. But any PUMAs out there can take joy in "man" being at the end as they neg the sh*t out of that pos(t).

LMAO...what about FrenchSandPerson.

508 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:09pm

What.........What .........? Geez, I cannot understand one thing he is saying. He is talking in circles. Did he just say call me? G-d help this country if he is elected.

509 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:14pm

re: #414 Let's Roll

Headline is now "Obama likely to keep debate as McCain seeks delay"

What liberal media?

Bingo. This is why it's bad. McCain might be putting the nation first (bravo) but the media are already spinning this for their candidate.


I think we need to make every democrat who took millions from Fannie and Freddie (Democrat Jamie Gorelick and Franklin Reines to start) and force them to pay it back.
As for wallstreet - all the bonuses , the golden parachutes, the bloated paychecks, the cooked books - force them to give it back. We tax payers should not have to pay for greedy democrat assholes.

If McCain wants to get in front of this - he must ditch his "bi-partisan" mr, Nice guy BS and start telling the America people that the Democrats and corrupt wall street elites are primarily responsible and THEY must pay this money back.

510 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:24pm

re: #454 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Batman - successful businessman, a genius & genuine asskicker? Sorry Barry, try Aqualad instead as a superhero rolemodel.

I think of him more as "The Sphinx". Uttering deep-sounding one-liners, that really don't mean much of anything.

"To learn my teachings, I must first teach you how to learn. "

"He who questions training only trains himself at asking questions."

Tell me those don't sound like lines from Obama speeches.

511 iceman1960  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:26pm

So is the ONE waiting on that 3am call?

512 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:45pm

re: #468 buzzsawmonkey

Mr. Sandman
--with apologies to the Chordettes

(scat “bung, bung, bung, bung..........)

[SNIP]

ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding ....

513 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:47pm

So Obama says "...we'll have to do two things at one time". Well Barry - John chose to go to work on what is best for America, and you chose to stay and work on your own campaign.

Now who is the one with the guts and strength we need these next four years?

Evidently Obama doesn't feel as if he's an important player in solving the economic crisis. And I'll give him that - he's right.

514 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:50pm

Hello.

I've been alone with you inside my mind
And in my dreams I've kissed your lips a thousand times
I sometimes see you pass outside my door
Hello, is it me you're looking for?

I can see it in your eyes
I can see it in your smile
You're all I've ever wanted, (and) my arms are open wide
'Cause you know just what to say
And you know just what to do
And I want to tell you so much, I love you ...

I long to see the sunlight in your hair
And tell you time and time again how much I care
Sometimes I feel my heart will overflow
Hello, I've just got to let you know

'Cause I wonder where you are
And I wonder what you do
Are you somewhere feeling lonely, or is someone loving you?
Tell me how to win your heart
For I haven't got a clue
But let me start by saying, I love you ...

Hello, is it me you're looking for?
'Cause I wonder where you are
And I wonder what you do
Are you somewhere feeling lonely or is someone loving you?
Tell me how to win your heart
For I haven't got a clue
But let me start by saying ... I love you

515 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:02:57pm

re: #450 mattm

I want to see Obama debate Biden.

That would be funny...Punch & Judy

516 Catttt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:03:07pm

I sense an OODA loop move, yes?

517 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:03:09pm

re: #485 jwb7605

I was an Army puke.

Hey we could pick on the Coast Guard...

Wait bad idea. 0-:

518 Perplexed  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:03:34pm

Hmmm, one candidate does what he feels best for Americans. The other candidate does what he feels is best for him. Obambi, may have just committed political suicide by rushing headlong into his bid for historical relevance.

519 Joe Six Pack  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:05pm

re: #327 mattm

I called my Sen. today to oppose this bailout. Somehow I don't think calling Chris Dodd did any good.

Depends WHAT you called him- Asshole, piece of shit, brain-dead moron...Need I go on? : )

520 mattm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:08pm

re: #486 Outrider

Many of them have been on the HGTV for a few years now bragging about "flippen" houses. I remember one old boy in California on HGTV stating how he was able to purchase five houses because of the mortgage terms. His stated intent was to hold them for five years and sell them. I heard the same thing from more than a few of the HGTV guests stating words to that effect.
I'm sure those of you who watch HGTV heard the same thing over the last few years. There is another channel where I watched some kind of house flippen show where I heard the same sentiment discussed, but I'll be daggoned if I can remember the channel now.

TLC.

521 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:15pm

McCain has asked him to come to Washington, the economy is in flames, and the Senator from Illinois thinks he has to be "called" and specially invited to do his fucking job! Sorry for the language but that kind of arrogance gets my blood boiling. "Call me"? Are you shitting us, Obama? DO YOUR GODDAMED JOB! If you have to be asked just to be a legislator, what kind of leader do you plan to be?

522 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:20pm

re: #451 Catttt

Barry = Whiny.

Where's Mandy? WAB also Whiny Ass Barry

523 Acesover8ts  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:24pm

Remember when the manufacturing industry as well as other nonfinancial industries were failing and the Ivy-league said to let then fail since the job could be done cheaper in other countries. We will just re-educate the auto and other workers to do work in the new economy. Sure is disgusting when it happens to them then they want help.

Once the government takes over the mortgages, Wall street boys will come back with new investment schemes and pay pennies on the dollar to take over the mortgages. See how nice they are of taking over the debt of government.

524 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:28pm

re: #517 Dustoff-507

Dustoff, I think I nailed it earlier.....
Obama just departed controlled flight.

525 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:29pm

re: #478 vbspurs

Obama should've chosen Governor Janet Napolitano as running mate.

I totally want to look at that mush for 4 years.


The chick from Concrete Blonde?

526 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:33pm

re: #518 Perplexed

Hmmm, one candidate does what he feels best for Americans. The other candidate does what he feels is best for him. Obambi, may have just committed political suicide by rushing headlong into his bid for historical relevance.

Upding, succinct and no matter what the MSM try to do, this is the message.

527 Outrider  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:36pm

re: #391 jcm

Obama to McCain....

If you need me call me.....


Leadership!

I'll be there

528 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:47pm

How many times did the"O" reiterate "as I said I initiated the cal"

Three? Four times?
That's the most used I I've ever heard!
Arrogant prick!

529 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:48pm

re: #489 Catttt

Governor Napolitano says they can't delay the debate because it would inconvenience the press. Okey dokey, gov.

Allow me to be amongst the first to go on record with: FUCK THE PRESS.

530 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:04:53pm

re: #505 jcm

I
made it through AF boot camp. I gained 15 pounds and got out of shape.
I work for the Forest Service the year before, I was getting in shape
for the PJ entrance test. Took awhile to get back into shape.

Waking up at noon each day must have been rough!
/

531 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:05:00pm

re: #511 iceman1960

So is the ONE waiting on that 3am call?

He just effectively declared that that call would go straight to voicemail.

532 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:05:09pm

re: #515 jorline

That would be funny...Punch & Judy

Biden vs. Palin = Punch and Cutie.

533 Florida Lady  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:05:40pm

If you need me, call me . . .

Just not at 3:00 am. I'll be more clueless than usual.

534 iceman1960  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:05:41pm

I can see a great play on the 3am call with Obama's statement.
He's sitting by the phone but nobody's calling.

535 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:05:45pm

re: #518 Perplexed

Dude is on his third memoir.

536 kansas  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:05:58pm

re: #345 Egfrow

What won't work. (Context?)


Sorry. McCain suspending his campaign to actually try to do the right thing. Harry Reid (Dipshit-Nevada) has already stared lying about him. I'm sorry but it will be all MSM lies, Democrat lies, and Obama lies all the time with not even the slightest counter. I am so pissed. And it was just a few hours ago that I donated again to the campaign.

537 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:05:59pm

re: #409 mitthrawnurdo

Great, now "The One" thinks he's freaking Batman...

I just pictured the Vero Possumus seal projected into the sky over D.C.

538 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:06:04pm

re: #496 ashan

OMG - I'm sitting here watching BHO reply to McCain's initiative. States that he originated the idea. (Probably a lie.) I notice that while speaking, he turns his head to the right, looks down, then turns his head to left, looks down, right, left and down, back and forth. He has not even once faced front! Never opens his eyes. Even when answering press questions, he faced forward with open eyes just once but bobbed his around. A sure sign of the liar.

Of course, McCain faced forward much of the time. Yep!


That's where the telepromters are silly!
LOL

539 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:06:09pm

re: #510 Occasional Reader

I think of him more as "The Sphinx". Uttering deep-sounding one-liners, that really don't mean much of anything.

"To learn my teachings, I must first teach you how to learn. "

"He who questions training only trains himself at asking questions."

Tell me those don't sound like lines from Obama speeches.

"He who hopes for change will only end up changing his hopes."

540 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:06:39pm

re: #470 midwestgak

He's a special need senator.

{mwg} welcome back.

Now go read #217.

541 Racer X  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:06:43pm

re: #516 Catttt

I sense an OODA loop move, yes?

One could only hope. I have no idea what Mac is up to lately. Obama is doing much better at manipulating the media. That spells disaster for Mac.

542 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:06:50pm

re: #524 jcm


STALL-stall-stall. Level your wings..... 0-:

543 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:06:54pm

re: #517 Dustoff-507

I was an Army puke.

Hey we could pick on the Coast Guard...

Wait bad idea. 0-:

As ex-Navy, I'll assure you that getting into a drinking contest with them is touch and go, best case!
Coast Guard guys are cool.

544 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:07pm

re: #491 runrabbitrun

((scottishbuzzsaw))

I hope we get together one morning here for Italian roast and fruitcup again - maybe not till next week as I'm hectic Thursday & Friday a.m., but dasoonah dabettah, hon!

Next week is good for me, sweetie! {runrabbitrun}

545 capitalist piglet  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:16pm

"If you need me, call me."

That's a lyric straight out of "Ain't No Mountain High Enough". I'm surprised he didn't sing it, since that seems to be a habit of his lately.

It would have demonstrated how seriously he seems to be taking everything.

546 zenren  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:16pm

re: #489 Catttt

This certainly is the most interesting Presidential race ever, during my lifetime anyway. Maybe ever EVER.

Governor Napolitano says they can't delay the debate because it would inconvenience the press. Okey dokey, gov.

Barry says uh.

Are they kidding about inconveniencing the press?! That's going to go over real well. Yeah, we're facing financial collapse but they're right, I wouldn't want Olbermann and Couric to have to reschedule their pedicures.

547 opnion  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:20pm

re: #465 vbspurs

Ack, I updinged instead of pressing "quote". :P

He laughed in response to a reporter's question about the crisis.

He laughed? He & his bitter half are not proud of America as it is.
Bet he sees this as the beginning of a societal collapse & his opportunity to reshape things to an America worthy of him.

548 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:28pm

Did He say that he was going to return the $105,000 he received from Freddie Mac in three short years to help save somebody's, anybody's house?

549 Mr. Sandman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:47pm

re: #234 buzzsawmonkey

Come on, the Senate discussions on the Wall Street crisis legislation is not going to be helped by Obama and Mccain in attendance, just slowed down. Neither one is even on the Banking Committee. Unless as Mccain suggests they rush through before Monday the legislation basically as it currently stands, i.e., a horrible package that basically gives Wall Street free reign of $700 billion and no protections for the burdened taxpayer, no provisions for payback by profits from such an extraordinary package, etc. etc. This is all about image, not helping the country, and Mccain knows this, and I suspect you know it too, if you would just admit it to yourself.

550 tfc3rid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:49pm

Obama says you have to handle multiple crises as President... the problem Barry O, is that you are a Senator, 1 of 100, and that is your job...

Not President... That's right now is Geore W. Bush's job...

Do your job Barry O...

551 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:07:52pm

re: #475 Nevergiveup

no - i dont think mccain is that cynical , or playing politics.

this is the real deal.
and its f**king scarey.

552 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:08:09pm

re: #496 ashan

OMG - I'm sitting here watching BHO reply to McCain's initiative. States that he originated the idea. (Probably a lie.) I notice that while speaking, he turns his head to the right, looks down, then turns his head to left, looks down, right, left and down, back and forth. He has not even once faced front! Never opens his eyes. Even when answering press questions, he faced forward with open eyes just once but bobbed his around. A sure sign of the liar.

Of course, McCain faced forward much of the time. Yep!

Obambi always does this when he's at a podium.

He looks to the left, then looks to the right, then looks to the left again, etc.

McCain and Palin look people squarely in the eye (and in the camera.)

Obama can't act Presidential without a script in front of him!

He doesn't know what to say unless it's all planned out.

553 Rancher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:08:12pm

IF you're feeling sad and lonely there's a service I can render.
Tell the one who loves you only, I can be so warm and tender.
Call me, don't be afraid you can call me, maybe it's late but just, call me.
tell me and I'll be around.
When its seems your friends desert you, there's somebody thinking of you.
I'm the one who'll never hurt you, maybe that's because I love you.
Call me, don't be afraid you can call me, maybe it's late but just, call me.
tell me and I'll be around.
Now don't forget me, because if you let me, I will always stay by you.
You gotta to trust me, that's how it must be, there's so much I can do.
If you call, I'll be right with you. You and I should be together.
Take this love I long to give you. I'll be at your side forever -
call me, don't be afraid, maybe it's late but just call me tell me and I'll be around
call me, don't be afraid, maybe it's late but just call me tell me and I'll be around
(fade out)

554 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:08:15pm

re: #430 mattm

Now health care and jobs.

In other words, he just delivered a stump speech at the worst possible moment to do so.

555 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:08:28pm

re: #535 unreconstructed rebel

Dude is on his third memoir.

Given that he has never held a 9 to 5 job and is 47 years old and only recently recovered his credit rating from a point where he couldn't rent a car at the DNC convention in 2000, I'd say a 3rd memoir is completely fitting.

/

556 Adrenalyn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:08:28pm

the real question here is:

what would Bill Clinton do in this situation ?

1) lob some missles at an aspirin factory in a 3rd world country
2) BLOWJOB !
(with apologies to Animal House)

557 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:08:30pm
558 runrabbitrun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:08:56pm

re: #491 runrabbitrun

........and I hope he staggers right back to the bowels of Chicago, whence he came...

oooppsy I thought the scottishbuzzsaw post that I was quoting was referring to the Obamuppet (?) - begging forgiveness for the error if not....

559 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:04pm

re: #543 jwb7605


LOL. I think their all great. But Marines, now that's another story. (-:

560 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:10pm

re: #547 opnion

Bet he sees this as the beginning of a societal collapse & his opportunity to reshape things to an America worthy of him.

And that is the really frightening thing about him.

561 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:14pm

Ari Fleischer saying this was the right reaction by McCain. If the economy is as bad as they say it is, putting his campaign first and not stepping back with McCain was absolutely the wrong move.

562 tfc3rid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:25pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Come on, the Senate discussions on the Wall Street crisis legislation is not going to be helped by Obama and Mccain in attendance, just slowed down. Neither one is even on the Banking Committee. Unless as Mccain suggests they rush through before Monday the legislation basically as it currently stands, i.e., a horrible package that basically gives Wall Street free reign of $700 billion and no protections for the burdened taxpayer, no provisions for payback by profits from such an extraordinary package, etc. etc. This is all about image, not helping the country, and Mccain knows this, and I suspect you know it too, if you would just admit it to yourself.

You hate this country, so what do you care... You probably made more off these shady deals than the next guy...

McCain gives a damn... To be as callous and condescending as Barry O is just not Presidential...

563 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:29pm

re: #536 kansas

Sorry. McCain suspending his campaign to actually try to do the right thing. Harry Reid (Dipshit-Nevada) has already stared lying about him. I'm sorry but it will be all MSM lies, Democrat lies, and Obama lies all the time with not even the slightest counter. I am so pissed. And it was just a few hours ago that I donated again to the campaign.

They weren't going to lie before this? No worries mate ... this feels like an ingenious strategy.

1. Obama is iced on foreign policy debate that he's been practicing for. Who knows, maybe even fed the questions already.

2. McCain has ammo for the economy debate - he's actively doing something

3. Obama needs to be called before leaping to action, he doesn't have the initiative

4. Does the foreign policy debate get scheduled after the other 3 now? McCain gets fp at the end?

5. Obama says he thought of it first, but STILL is continuing to campaign? Or maybe finish his 3rd memoir with the free time

6. The MSM were out to destroy McCain/Palin anyway, might as well tweak them a bit.

564 jaunte  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:29pm

If you've economic troubles
There's a service I can render
Tell the Axelrod to wake me
I can be so warm and tender
Call me
Don't be afraid, you can call me
Maybe it's late, but just call me
Tell me, and I might be around

When it seems the gubmint's robbed you
There's somebody thinking of you
I'm the One who'll never hurt you
Maybe that's because I love you
Call me
Don't be afraid, you can call me
Maybe it's late, but just call me
Tell me, and I might be around

565 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:38pm

McCain is now pulling down all his ads and cancels Letterman appearance.

566 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:52pm

re: #545 capitalist piglet

"If you need me, call me."

That's a lyric straight out of
"Ain't No Mountain High Enough". I'm surprised he didn't sing it, since
that seems to be a habit of his lately.

It would have demonstrated how seriously he seems to be taking everything.

I was thinking more of "Call Me" by Burt Bacharach.

Buzzsawmonkey, can you follow up your fantastic Mr. Sandman song with a Barry "Call Me" song parody?

567 Perplexed  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:55pm

re: #543 jwb7605

As ex-Navy, I'll assure you that getting into a drinking contest with them is touch and go, best case!
Coast Guard guys are cool.

When the Coast Guard guys landed at Johnston Island, their first comment was usually, "damn this is a small island." Little did they know that they were going to go to a remote radar site called bird sh*t island because of the nesting birds. They eventually grew to love the trips to the mainland.

568 Catttt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:09:56pm

Barry's response reminds me of when Debbie, who lived next door when I was seven years old, went to the store without inviting me to go along, then missed the goose getting beheaded (it ran around in a circle for about 10 seconds), and then insisted that she didn't want to watch the goose get beheaded (she did) and wasn't sorry that she didn't get to watch the plucking.

569 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:01pm

re: #556 Adrenalyn

the real question here is:

what would Bill Clinton do in this situation ?

1) lob some missles at an aspirin factory in a 3rd world country
2) BLOWJOB !
(with apologies to Animal House)

Well, I do vote we keep blowjobs somewhere in the agenda.

570 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:02pm

re: #551 buzzdroid

no - i dont think mccain is that cynical , or playing politics.

this is the real deal.
and its f**king scarey.

Damn straight. Makes me stand-up-straighter proud to support him.
Pray he catches the #3 wire.

571 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:02pm
“At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama’s call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details,” spokesman Bill Burton said.
572 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:04pm

This is really Bush's first step in taking full control of the country. Next McCain will suggest to postpone the election and before you know it, martial law and Bush is president for life.

/scarcasm

573 Nevergiveup  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:06pm

re: #551 buzzdroid

no - i dont think mccain is that cynical , or playing politics.

this is the real deal.
and its f**king scarey.

I didn't say he was being cynical or playing politics, just how all this might play out. He does seem to be staking the whole enchilada on this. That is all!

574 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:12pm

The audacity of, well, audacity.

NEW YORK - Republican John McCain said Wednesday that he wants to postpone Friday's debate to deal with the nation's financial problems, but Democrat Barack Obama said "it's more important than ever" that the country hear from its next president.

575 RickZ  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:13pm

re: #546 zenren

Are they kidding about inconveniencing the press?! That's going to go over real well. Yeah, we're facing financial collapse but they're right, I wouldn't want Olbermann and Couric to have to reschedule their pedicures.

Or their bikini waxes.

576 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:17pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

Did you forget the *snark*?
Or,are you an *idiot*?
I think I know the answer,never mind!

577 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:18pm

re: #452 Occasional Reader

Sound bite GOLD. Nay, PLATINUM.

Unobtanium!

578 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:18pm

re: #528 reloadingisnotahobby

Nobody tops John Kerry for inserting "I" or some variation thereof into every sentence.

579 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:41pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Neither one is even on the Banking Committee


But... but... but... Obama said he was! Surely you don't mean he lied, do you?

580 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:42pm

re: #556 Adrenalyn

the real question here is:

what would Bill Clinton do in this situation ?

Bill Clinton said he was suspending campaigning in Florida for Obama, in deference to Jewish high holidays.

LOL.

581 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:46pm

re: #500 HoosierHoops

yea.. I think it will be awhile before mr.sandman gets out of 'A' ball.
annefrance was on another level...
BTW..I wonder if troll venom effects other trolls or are they immune.

It's that vampire, once bitten syndrome.

582 eon  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:10:56pm

re: #454 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Batman - successful businessman, a genius & genuine asskicker? Sorry Barry, try Aqualad instead as a superhero rolemodel.

More like Ambush Bug.

Howard the Duck would kick his a$$.

cheers

eon

583 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:11:21pm

Okay guys, I'll catch you all later!

584 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:11:26pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

what if the $700 billion is the better alternative?

thats what scarey about this whole thing. (and yes - i'm one of the dont-bail-them-out crowd.. )

something has seriously spooked Paulson - didnt he tell a Congressional committee about this behind closed doors.. and it spooked the hell out of them as well?

(because if what Paulson knows is published, then there really would be a run on the banks and market collapse...)

585 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:11:30pm

re: #552 Adina in Judea

Obambi always does this when he's at a podium.

He looks to the left, then looks to the right, then looks to the left again, etc.

McCain and Palin look people squarely in the eye (and in the camera.)

Obama can't act Presidential without a script in front of him!

He doesn't know what to say unless it's all planned out.


Teleprompter.

586 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:11:31pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Obama is afraid to step up the plate to do something that isn't teleprompted.

He wants the role of President, but he isn't even a good Senator.

If he's afraid to get involved in this crisis, then he has no business running for President.

587 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:11:43pm

re: #559 Dustoff-507

LOL. I think their all great. But Marines, now that's another story. (-:

Their favorite beverage is Bud Light.
And they don't get the joke.
(I raised one, so I can say that)

588 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:11:48pm

Sarah Palin said she will fill in to Debate Obama while McCain helps rescue the nation. She said she will debate both Biden and Obama together./;-)

589 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:11:58pm
590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:12:05pm

I heart John McCain!

591 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:12:12pm

Random word generator.

angusscope
(angus-scope)
instrument for viewing or measuring angus

cryptoexesation
(crypto-exes-ation)
process, state or action of hidden or secret exes

592 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:12:15pm

Well, I see how the press is spinning it. I've already heard two radio reports refer to this as a "political stunt". That's the phrase the powers-that-be have agreed upon. Expect to see lots of "political stunt" on tonight's evening news.

593 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:12:16pm

Obama is a ding a ling waiting for a ring ring

594 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:12:18pm

re: #572 Walter L. Newton

This is really Bush's first step in taking full control of the country. Next McCain will suggest to postpone the election and before you know it, martial law and Bush is president for life.

/scarcasm

Oh noes, and a wiretap for all ... The horror, the horror.

595 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:12:21pm

re: #530 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Waking up at noon each day must have been rough!
/

It seem that way. In the Forest Service we were getting up at like 2:00am to get in the Forest at first light, and be done by noon before temperatures hit 110°. In the chow hall in basic they dumped a ton of high fat high carb food on you plate and got pissed if you didn't eat it. The PT wasn't anywhere near as hard as I'd been working.

596 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:12:32pm

re: #541 Racer X

One could only hope. I have no idea what Mac is up to lately. Obama is doing much better at manipulating the media. That spells disaster for Mac.

You must not have seen his press conference minutes ago. He looked like a total fool.

597 Catttt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:13:03pm

re: #569 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, I do vote we keep blowjobs somewhere in the agenda.

Oh, no. They should be sub rosa. /

598 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:13:27pm

well, let obama stay out there hustling votes like a self-serving scavenger.
best that he stays out of the way while mccain gets down to business.

599 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:13:31pm

re: #575 RickZ

Or their bikini waxes.

That mental image means I had to ding you down.

600 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:13:34pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Right...forgot that the 0bama campaign was all about substance.

601 x-ray  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:13:37pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

If speed is the only requirement than what we need is an Emperor.

To have an effect on any legislation as a senator one actually needs to attend the negotiations.

602 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:13:41pm

Now is the time for a 527 ad that will show the truth about Obama:

"When a real and dangerous financial crisis hit America, John McCain put his country first by suspending his campaign and going to work as the Sr Senator from Arizona.

Barack Obama's response? 'If you need me, call me'.

John McCain: Leader who answers his country's call
Barack Obama: Still sitting by the phone"

603 sidtara  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:13:42pm

If McCain is still working on this bill on Friday, he can always ask Palin to debate Obama instead. Isn't that what VPs are for?

Obama's head wouldn't really explode, would it?

604 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:10pm

re: #587 jwb7605


Sweet

605 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:21pm

re: #572 Walter L. Newton

It's a plot! A plot I tells ya!

Hey Walter! How you doin'!?

606 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:21pm
607 Adrenalyn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:28pm

re: #584 buzzdroid

what if the $700 billion is the better alternative?

thats what scarey about this whole thing. (and yes - i'm one of the dont-bail-them-out crowd.. )

something has seriously spooked Paulson - didnt he tell a Congressional committee about this behind closed doors.. and it spooked the hell out of them as well?

(because if what Paulson knows is published, then there really would be a run on the banks and market collapse...)

Sadly, it is the better alternative as things will be grim without some intervention. No one wants an extra 3500 a person in debt but it has to be done. And it has to be done before the Middle East heats up again, which is very to extremely imminent.

608 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:43pm

Not only is it Five O'clock Somewhere, it's Five O'Clock here. See ya.

609 eon  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:47pm

re: #484 gatorbait

What does one call the memorable event that will occur when Obama debates his own image in a pool of water?

Obamacissus?

Obamabation.

Because unlike Narcissus, he won't disappear.

/unless, of course, he loses on Nov. 3, at which point he'll be excised from the Democrats' collective memory faster than McGovern.

cheers

eon

610 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:50pm

re: #596 really grumpy big dog Johnson

You must not have seen his press conference minutes ago. He looked like a total fool.

And Obama isn't manipulating nothing but himself. The MSM is circle jerking itself to get a D into office, plain and simple. Obama could give a rev. wright speech topped with an Ayers pronouncement while bombing the Pentagon and the MSM will spin it as Obama taking action and standing by his principles ...

611 JacksonTn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:55pm

re: #580 vbspurs

Bill Clinton said he was suspending campaigning in Florida for Obama, in deference to Jewish high holidays.

LOL.

I must say I love your avatar.

612 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:14:56pm

If McCain does nothing to elucidate a position about the economy he will strike out looking. Game over. This is risky but he needs to act.

613 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:15:03pm

says a lot about mccain's character.

rather than running away from the issue , he goes head first, wading into D.C. to get the problem sorted out... at the expense of his own campaign.

a heck of a lot of politicians would never EVER do that.

614 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:15:18pm

re: #574 ciaospirit

NEW YORK - Republican John McCain said Wednesday that he wants to postpone Friday's debate to deal with the nation's financial problems, but Democrat Barack Obama said "it's more important than ever" that the country hear from its next president.

The audacity of, well, audacity.

And takes responsibility in 40 days....

*sorry Barry, not 'till Jan. 20*

615 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:15:34pm

re: #585 Ben Hur

Obambi always does this when he's at a podium.

He looks to the left, then looks to the right, then looks to the left again, etc.

McCain and Palin look people squarely in the eye (and in the camera.)

Obama can't act Presidential without a script in front of him!

He doesn't know what to say unless it's all planned out.

Teleprompter.

What I meant is that it seems he does this even when a teleprompter isn't there.

His other act is to walk around with a microphone, but when he has a podium in front of him, he seems to look left and right anyway (even without a teleprompter.)

Force of habit, probably.

He doesn't seem to be focused on what he's doing.

616 Russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:15:41pm

I heard part of BHO's press conference on the radio (Hannity's show, I think), and he said that he's been in daily contact with Pelosi, Reid, Paulson, etc., and he has told them.....if you need me, call me. WTF?!?!?!?!

You are a Senator, sir! Get your ass back to Washington now and do more than be "present." Time to step up and make a public vote.

Sheesh! What a abso-fu@#%-lute moron.

617 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:15:45pm

re: #496 ashan

I notice that while speaking, he turns his head to the right, looks down, then turns his head to left, looks down, right, left and down, back and forth. He has not even once faced front! Never opens his eyes. Even when answering press questions, he faced forward with open eyes just once but bobbed his around. A sure sign of the liar.

Yep. Imagine such a person on a witness stand - would you buy the story if you were in the jury box?

618 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:15:46pm

re: #596 really grumpy big dog Johnson

You must not have seen his press conference minutes ago. He looked like a total fool.

However, 60 Minutes made him look good Sunday. If you didn't know your stuff, it could fool you. Not all the time, of course. He answered dumbly a few times for everyone's benefit.

619 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:15:55pm

re: #603 sidtara

If McCain is still working on this bill on Friday, he can always ask Palin to debate Obama instead. Isn't that what VPs are for?

Obama's head wouldn't really explode, would it?

"I'm sorry, the debate rules I agreed to explicitly state that I will only debate overprivileged white males." -O

620 Adrenalyn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:16:01pm

re: #603 sidtara

If McCain is still working on this bill on Friday, he can always ask Palin to debate Obama instead. Isn't that what VPs are for?

Obama's head wouldn't really explode, would it?

upding for you dear poster !

621 zato  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:16:04pm

Maybe Obama should go back to taking fake victory laps in Europe and let the real leaders fix the financial crises.
And it seems like Steve Schmidt is running circles around Axelrod.

622 Racer X  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:16:25pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Come on, the Senate discussions on the Wall Street crisis legislation is not going to be helped by Obama and Mccain in attendance, just slowed down. Neither one is even on the Banking Committee. Unless as Mccain suggests they rush through before Monday the legislation basically as it currently stands, i.e., a horrible package that basically gives Wall Street free reign of $700 billion and no protections for the burdened taxpayer, no provisions for payback by profits from such an extraordinary package, etc. etc. This is all about image, not helping the country, and Mccain knows this, and I suspect you know it too, if you would just admit it to yourself.

I disagree - this is the perfect opportunity for Obama or McCain to demonstrate clear leadership and bring both parties together for a solution to this CRISIS.

623 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:16:25pm

re: #564 jaunte

If you've economic troubles
There's a service I can render
Tell the Axelrod to wake me
I can be so warm and tender
Call me
Don't be afraid, you can call me
Maybe it's late, but just call me
Tell me, and I might be around

When it seems the gubmint's robbed you
There's somebody thinking of you
I'm the One who'll never hurt you
Maybe that's because I love you
Call me
Don't be afraid, you can call me
Maybe it's late, but just call me
Tell me, and I might be around

Oh oh...Buzzsaw's got some competition!
LOL Well done!

624 RickZ  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:16:32pm

re: #599 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That mental image means I had to ding you down.

C'mon, we're supposed to be made of sterner stuff around here.

625 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:16:43pm

re: #533 Florida Lady

If you need me, call me . . .

Just not at 3:00 am. I'll be more clueless than usual.

Yeah, I'd love to see Obambi deal with the prowler at the window.

626 USCMSNE  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:09pm

re: #117 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.

I thought of this earlier today, too. It's a win-win for McCain if he "offers" to let Obama debate her. One, she'd win. Two, it would make Obama look like a fool. He's be rehearsing for McCain, it would throw him off to have to "attack" her. Three, it would make him look weak when she reminds everyone why she is there and not McCain. Fourth, it would make him look weak if he tried to back out of the debate since he's been so adamant about having it.

627 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:11pm

re: #582 eon

More like Ambush Bug.

Howard the Duck would kick his a$$.

cheers

eon

Ambush Bug at least knows he's a joke.

628 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:11pm

re: #595 jcm


When I got my forest fire fighting ticket ( In Calif) I looked around and kept saying one of these days, this whole area is going to go up.

Took a few years... BUT o-boy was I right. )-:

629 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:12pm

BHO sure just stepped into a "big fresh one" with his call me response. Not that the moonbats would ever take notice but his response showed his true lack of character.

630 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:15pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

-50

631 Last Mohican  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:17pm

re: #340 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's 57 states, not 59!

Now that I review what Obama said, I think I have misquoted him (which of course automatically makes me a racist). Here's exactly what he said:

I've now been in fifty-seven states, I think. One left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go to, even though I really wanted to visit...

I suppose the exact number of states is open to some interpretation. if the "one left to go" is neither Alaska nor Hawaii, which he does not plan to visit, then there are actually 60 states. Alternatively, maybe he initially wasn't allowed to go to Alaska and Hawaii, but now he plans to go to one of them (the "one left to go"), in which case there are 59 states. It's also possible that "Alaska and Hawaii" is one state, sort of like how Trinidad and Tobago is only one country. In that case, maybe that's the one state that he has yet to visit, and he DOES plan to go there eventually, so there are a total of 58 states.

It must be tough having all that responsibility. Every time he changes his travel plans, the number of states changes.

632 yma o hyd  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:22pm

re: #492 iceman1960

Barraks response on economic crisis "If you need me just call"

I'll hazard the guess that this will not please one of the richest men in the world, a certain Warren Buffett ...
And following that thought - if he switches his support to McCain - hmmmm ...

633 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:26pm

I need to run an errand.
Please refrain from posting anything funny or important for about an hour.
BBL

634 JacksonTn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:27pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

Mr. Sandman, I am sure if you reach up and tap Obama on the shoulder he will kindly bend over a little further so you can see all the way up his ass but make it quick as I believe Mr. Dinnerjacket has a spare seat for you on his plane. Ass.

635 opnion  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:33pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Come on, the Senate discussions on the Wall Street crisis legislation is not going to be helped by Obama and Mccain in attendance, just slowed down. Neither one is even on the Banking Committee. Unless as Mccain suggests they rush through before Monday the legislation basically as it currently stands, i.e., a horrible package that basically gives Wall Street free reign of $700 billion and no protections for the burdened taxpayer, no provisions for payback by profits from such an extraordinary package, etc. etc. This is all about image, not helping the country, and Mccain knows this, and I suspect you know it too, if you would just admit it to yourself.

636 godfrey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:17:47pm

It's alright. Obama can vote "present" as usual, McCain can send Palin to debate him, and Biden can go get a scalp massage.

637 SFGoth  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:07pm

Risky move - could be seen as a stunt given how much of a supernumerary McCain has essentially admitted to being on economic issues.

638 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:10pm

re: #607 Adrenalyn

Sadly, it is the better alternative as things will be grim without some intervention. No one wants an extra 3500 a person in debt but it has to be done. And it has to be done before the Middle East heats up again, which is very to extremely imminent.

damn right. the Iranians are watching this , very VERY closely...

if the U.S. goes down the tubes, you can say hello to global war - as Iran, Russia, and China go like crazy in grabbing resources.

like it or not, the U.S. military ARE the world's policemen. Not the UN.

639 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:19pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Ok. Mr Socialist, I was not aware of any package actually created at this point. Wall Street is not the problem. People like you who force banks to hand out bad loans to those who should not be buying half million dollar homes is the problem. The root cause is again bypassed by Socialist propaganda. Power to the People's Revolution comrade!

640 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:31pm

mccain isn't even thinking of obama right now.
but obama is cursing mccain.

641 Racer X  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:33pm

re: #596 really grumpy big dog Johnson

You must not have seen his press conference minutes ago. He looked like a total fool.

I did not see it - I heard it on the radio. Yes - I thought he sounded foolish. Clearly the press did not, and it is already being spun as negative on McCain.

642 armaros  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:39pm

Fascinating article by black intellectual and academic, Shelby Steele about what made Obama and why he would not serve race relations well
[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]
[Link: network.nationalpost.com...]

643 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:52pm

re: #578 doppelganglander

What? There's no award for second!
Someone should tell the "O"!
Or your not counting the stutter!
I,I,I,I,I, uh, I, uh,.............

644 Catttt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:18:55pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Every time you post, you project your feelings on others.

645 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:19:36pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

The assumption that this is something that will be handled by committee is laughable. You complain that McCain is dishonest and that this is a $700 B blank check and then you want Chris Dodd to handle the problem?

Moby, thy name is Sandman. Or is it ChenZen?

646 Lively  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:20:18pm

re: #637 SFGoth

Risky move - could be seen as a stunt given how much of a supernumerary McCain has essentially admitted to being on economic issues.

I think it's risky, too.

647 bulwrk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:20:33pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Neither one is even on the Banking Committee.


You mean the committee that did nothing for the last two years to avert this crisis and chaired by a crook who is waist deep in this mess

648 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:20:39pm

re: #637 SFGoth

Risky move - could be seen as a stunt given how much of a supernumerary McCain has essentially admitted to being on economic issues.

Almost all Senators are economically challenged, but they still get to vote. I'd rather have McCain there getting briefed and gathering as much info and asking as many questions as possible before he votes.

649 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:20:51pm

re: #584 buzzdroid

Which is why, little as I like it, this damned bailout needs to pass before the weekend.

650 opnion  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:06pm

re: #635 opnion

Ya know I wrote something & it did not post.
What I wanted to say to Sandman is that Greek Columns are about imagery. Senators going to the Senate during a crisis is doing their jobs.

651 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:07pm

re: #603 sidtara

Obama: Sure, I'll debate the sweetie.

Wait, I just figured out the "sweetie" thing. If you were married to a woman as bitter as Michelle, you might call other women sweetie, too.

652 sparrowlake  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:10pm

re: #593 lifeofthemind

Obama is a ding a ling waiting for a ring ring


Obama's New Campaign Song

653 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:15pm

re: #641 Racer X

I did not see it - I heard it on the radio. Yes - I thought he sounded foolish. Clearly the press did not, and it is already being spun as negative on McCain.

Everything that McCain does, or declines to do, will be spun as negative by the MSM. You've got to just take that as a given. So saying "this particular action is bad for McCain, because the press will spin it as negative" is, as the rhetoricians say, insufficient as an argument.

654 capitalist piglet  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:16pm
"You know, they think that because of who I am and where my politic[al] base has traditionally been, they may want me to go sort of hustle up what Lawton Chiles used to call the 'cracker vote' there."

Bill Clinton, to Larry King, on campaigning for Obama.

655 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:32pm

I thought the phrase "be helpful" sounded very young. Instead of leadership Obama can provide assistance.

656 freetoken  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:49pm

Sadly, McCain is stumbling here... he is just adding to the pile-on of economic fear. Rather, he should be doing what Bush is doing (speaking calmly).

Yes, there is a financial mess... and nothing was more responsible for it than the housing finance crisis brought on by bad loans (to people who couldn't repay.) This has been discussed extensively.

McCain's failure is the inability to frame the debate ... and as such his opponent (and his allies) will do that for him.

657 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:21:58pm
658 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:22:09pm

#217 Mr. Sandman 9/24/08 1:35:27 pm reply quote -50

659 Adrenalyn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:22:12pm

re: #638 buzzdroid

damn right. the Iranians are watching this , very VERY closely...

the US military is watching this closely too
it's 9/12 again right now, not 9/10
edgy !

660 Last Mohican  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:22:28pm

re: #651 HelloDare

Obama: Sure, I'll debate the sweetie.

Wait, I just figured out the "sweetie" thing. If you were married to a woman as bitter as Michelle, you might call other women sweetie, too.

You might also flirt with cute German journalists and put your arm around them the first time you meet them.

Does anyone still have that link?

661 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:22:32pm

re: #628 Dustoff-507

When I got my forest fire fighting ticket ( In Calif) I looked around and kept saying one of these days, this whole area is going to go up.

Took a few years... BUT o-boy was I right. )-:

That the funny thing. What I was doing on the forest service was thinning out a forest. The goal was to get the forest to a natural distribution of sizes and species of trees and plants. Natural forests are much thinner than the re-growth we see. Then we'd control burn to get rid of built up undergrowth, windfall and dead wood. After that natural fires would be allowed to burn to maintain the natural balance. Every 70 years or so a light selective harvest could be done with out major disruption.

That was the plan.

Forest Service got sued to stop it.

by the ENVRONMENTALISTS!

662 JustMyView  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:22:50pm

re: #565 Egfrow

McCain is now pulling down all his ads and cancels Letterman appearance.

Funny that he would cancel the Letterman appearance. He is, as I understand it, going to be in NY tomorrow AM to speak at the Clinton Global Initiative tomorrow morning.

663 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:22:58pm

re: #646 Lively

I think it's risky, too.

It is extremely risky. Look at the reactions on the prior thread (especially mine). McCain has taken a huge personal risk to solve a problem that is a huge national risk. Which says a lot about the man.

664 eon  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:23:11pm

re: #615 Adina in Judea

What I meant is that it seems he does this even when a teleprompter isn't there.

His other act is to walk around with a microphone, but when he has a podium in front of him, he seems to look left and right anyway (even without a teleprompter.)

Force of habit, probably.

He doesn't seem to be focused on what he's doing.

Actually, I suspect he's looking for the teleprompter.

And suffers visceral panic when he realizes that there isn't one.


"I'm on, right? Aren't I?
"So where's my statement?
"What am I supposed to say?"

There was an episode of The Wild, Wild West about a politician who appeared to be potentially Presidential, but turned out to be a nearly brainless twit who was only able to look like a leader due to being coached and manipulated by a Svengali-like fixer, played by Anthony Zerbe. I can't remember the name of the episode, but I think of it every time I find myself listening to anything Obambi says.

cheers

eon

665 zenren  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:23:23pm

re: #656 freetoken

Sadly, McCain is stumbling here... he is just adding to the pile-on of economic fear. Rather, he should be doing what Bush is doing (speaking calmly).

Yes, there is a financial mess... and nothing was more responsible for it than the housing finance crisis brought on by bad loans (to people who couldn't repay.) This has been discussed extensively.

McCain's failure is the inability to frame the debate ... and as such his opponent (and his allies) will do that for him.

What? No halo on the avatar?

666 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:23:38pm

re: #653 Occasional Reader

Everything that McCain does, or declines to do, will be spun as negative by the MSM. You've got to just take that as a given. So saying "this particular action is bad for McCain, because the press will spin it as negative" is, as the rhetoricians say, insufficient as an argument.

Thank you for saying that so well...

667 Dustoff-507  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:23:57pm

re: #661 jcm


Know that one all to well buddy.

Have to go, have a great evening

668 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:24:01pm

re: #643 reloadingisnotahobby

Maybe they could face off and we would know for sure. Suggested topic: Why I was right all along, you just didn't realize it.

669 charles_martel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:24:15pm

THE OBAMA SOLO DEBATE:

Mr. Obama: Jerusalem should be Isreal's eternal, undivided capitol!

Mr. Obama (rebuttal): No, that's a bad idea.

I predict he will have no trouble debating himself.

670 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:24:47pm

re: #661 jcm

Then we'd control burn to get rid of built up undergrowth, windfall and dead wood.

Right now, a bunch of Ents are looking to kick your ass.

671 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:24:57pm
672 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:10pm

re: #656 freetoken

McCain's failure is the inability to frame the debate ... and as such his opponent (and his allies) will do that for him.

George Lakoff, is that you?

673 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:11pm

re: #549 Mr. Sandman

Come on, the Senate discussions on the Wall Street crisis legislation is not going to be helped by Obama and Mccain in attendance, just slowed down. Neither one is even on the Banking Committee.


Chris Dodd is and that has been such a BIG help, hasn't it?

674 LizardoidCaptain  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:12pm

re: #588 Egfrow

Sarah Palin said she will fill in to Debate Obama while McCain helps rescue the nation. She said she will debate both Biden and Obama together./;-)

I would give up a weeks pay to have her get on a press conference and say she'd "Fill in for McCain" to debate Obama. I really would!

675 Racer X  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:15pm

"If you need me, call me".

Ring, Ring.

"Present!"
- Barack Obama

Contrast to:

"I am suspending my campaign in order to focus on the serious financial crisis".
- John McCain

Yep, the man puts country FIRST!

676 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:25pm

re: #641 Racer X

Moon stream media will always paint everything as a negative for JSM. Doesn't matter! This is another brilliant chess move by Mac. It'll will be shown for what it is (Country First) by anyone with half a lobe. For those with less, good luck with them anyway.

677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:27pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

As far as you're concerned, any McCain victory will be a "cheap win". Right?

678 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:45pm

re: #386 Junior

Obama: "If you need me, call me" - to Congress.

What a dope.

TK said that to Mary Joe and we see where that got her.

679 Dead Man Voting  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:25:55pm

Haven't scanned all the posts to see if something similar was posted but wasn't Obama hailed for choosing not to appear on SNL on September 13 as Texas dealt with Hurricane Ike?

What exactly was Obama doing while he wasn't appearing on SNL? Something Senatorial?

In this case, Senator McCain is actually dropping his campaign responsibilities to do what he is...ummm...paid to do.

Sure, it's as much of a political statement as Obama's decision to forego SNL. Nonetheless, it's the right thing to do...

680 Last Mohican  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:26:25pm

re: #663 karmic_inquisitor

Agreed. Postponing the debate for a week won't help McCain. He's going to get his clock cleaned, whenever the debate happens. Not because of anything he believes or says, but because he's a short old man, and Obama is a hunky dreamboat with a glowing halo over his head. If you put them on TV together, America will prefer whoever looks more like the spokesmodel they were just watching before they changed the channel. The closer the debates are to the election, the more they hurt McCain.

681 Mr. Sandman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:26:31pm

re: #562 tfc3rid

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

682 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:26:34pm

re: #670 Occasional Reader

Right now, a bunch of Ents are looking to kick your ass.

I can explain, I CAN EXP*snap*.......................................

683 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:27:05pm

re: #648 ciaospirit

Almost all Senators are economically challenged, but they still get to vote. I'd rather have McCain there getting briefed and gathering as much info and asking as many questions as possible before he votes.

McCain will be there to break the balls of the Republican and Democrat senators who are against it. Period. Thats why he's going back to D.C.
(and i wouldnt like to be on the receiving end!)


As presidential candidate he would have been very well briefed by now. "eyes only" top secret documents can be viewed by presidential candidates in case of a national emergency during a campaign.

which is what this is.

684 WrathofG-d  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:27:13pm

Obama sort of reminds me of my mayor...always there for the fundraiser, and the photo op....which leaves him too busy to actually do any work.

685 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:27:14pm

re: #521 Lizard by the Bay

McCain has asked him to come to Washington, the economy is in flames, and the Senator from Illinois thinks he has to be "called" and specially invited to do his fucking job! Sorry for the language but that kind of arrogance gets my blood boiling. "Call me"? Are you shitting us, Obama? DO YOUR GODDAMED JOB! If you have to be asked just to be a legislator, what kind of leader do you plan to be?

Obama is a joke.

686 Rancher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:27:25pm

re: #615 Adina in Judea

Bill Clinton closes one eye when he's lying. Which he has been doing alot of lately. Closing one eye I mean, although that also means he's lying. Especially when talking about Obama and how much he want's him to win.

687 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:27:38pm

re: #637 SFGoth

Risky move - could be seen as a stunt given how much of a supernumerary McCain has essentially admitted to being on economic issues.

Not on this one point, Fannie and Freddie.

He's nearly obliged to be there, as he's one of the few legislators who's spoken sense on the subject in the last decade.

688 Russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:27:48pm

re: #638 buzzdroid

damn right. the Iranians are watching this , very VERY closely...

if the U.S. goes down the tubes, you can say hello to global war - as Iran, Russia, and China go like crazy in grabbing resources.

like it or not, the U.S. military ARE the world's policemen. Not the UN.

And Russia is sending a nuclear carrier and sub on a cruise to Venezuela. What? me worry?

689 West Coast Freedom  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:28:09pm

re: #247 midwestgak

Where you from Sandman. The West Coast? :)

Hey, not all of us West Coast guys are crazy :)

McCain/Palin '08
Rossi '08

690 gmsc  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:28:16pm

Riehl World View has the best response:

Let the Left laugh, with Obama saying he wants to continue campaigning and debating, I'd do two things were I McCain.

1) Say you can understand Obama's point of view as he has never been engaged in anything this serious on Capitol Hill, or anywhere else.

and 2) Volunteer to let his VP nominee sit in for him against Obama on Friday.

Yes, I realize the media is still all about Palin - who cares. I'd make the offer.

691 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:28:26pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

To quote Mandy.....

Go piss up a rope.

692 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:28:59pm
693 C2W?  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:29:05pm

Send in the Pitbull . . .

694 LizardoidCaptain  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:29:16pm

re: #688 Russkilitlover

And Russia is sending a nuclear carrier and sub on a cruise to Venezuela. What? me worry?

They are all having a "Great Satan" and "Capitalist Pig" roast as we speak.

695 LizardoidCaptain  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:29:39pm

re: #693 C2W?

Send in the Pitbull . . .


with lipstick!

696 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:29:44pm

re: #671 buzzsawmonkey
My special power seems to be back for that comment! At a great time too.

697 sparrowlake  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:30:16pm

Don't worry America, I'll be there.

698 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:30:54pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

Ah-ha. The crux of the matter. Honest assessment of what you really think about people who have a different opinion - they are willfully ignorant and easily fooled.

699 HillJack  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:30:54pm

The Obamites have already begun spinning this in a negative way, but I don't care. This is a true leader doing the job he was elected to do.

700 zenren  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:31:00pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

Well, BO is clearly not qualified to be POTUS, so what is your point? Please list BO's qualifications for us, including any major (okay any) pieces of legislation that he has authored.

701 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:31:12pm

re: #680 Last Mohican

Agreed. Postponing the debate for a week won't help McCain. He's going to get his clock cleaned, whenever the debate happens. Not because of anything he believes or says, but because he's a short old man, and Obama is a hunky dreamboat with a glowing halo over his head. If you put them on TV together, America will prefer whoever looks more like the spokesmodel they were just watching before they changed the channel. The closer the debates are to the election, the more they hurt McCain.

Obambi doesn't look all that "hunky" when he "umms" and "awws" and says things like "MY MUSLIM FAITH" when he doesn't have a script in front of him, though.

He even stumbles sometimes when he DOES have a teleprompter script:

Obama Stumbles on Fanny

He looks like a man who is totally lost in that clip.

He's worse when he has nothing in front of him to read.

702 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:31:15pm

Does anyone else notice that if neither Obama or Biden goes back to Washington then it clearly shows that there is no serious intent by the party controlling Congress to reach some sort of resolution of this crisis? If those two votes are not even needed, then how can the dems every say that they tried get something done?

This whole thing is nothing but a charade. They want institutions to fall, and yet I don't think they truly understand the consequences of their deliberate stonewalling on this issue. They would rather burn down our economic house and win an election, than risk not winning and leaving a patched and bleeding, but still salvageable situation behind.

They are an embarrassment to their country.

703 JacksonTn  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:31:22pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

Mr. Sandman are you posting from Gaza? Geez. I heard Obama had some guys over there trolling for him before.

704 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:31:34pm

re: #656 freetoken

Nope, don't see it that way. JSM was there in 2005 trying to push reform & was shut-out. He's going back again, to do what he can. What do you expect from our elected officials. IMO, would be stupid to be debating International policy while this "crap"is up in the air. Reschedule the debate for whatever day Barry can make it next week. Which is a more important in the scope of things nationally at this moment? It will eventually be seen as a brilliant move.

705 Last Mohican  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:31:41pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Well, you picked a candidate who is "not prepared to become president on a moment's notice." Does that mean that you don't care about national security?

Me, when I'm choosing the candidate who's more dedicated to national security, I'm going with the one whose buddy didn't once blow up the Pentagon. But that's just me.

706 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:32:01pm

drudge has it nailed

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

707 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:32:09pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

You know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.

708 LizardoidCaptain  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:33:03pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. ..

Douche, All that P.O.W. stuff was just a rouse right? Jackass!

709 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:33:03pm

re: #680 Last Mohican

Are you really that contemptuous of your fellow citizens?!

710 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:33:26pm
711 freetoken  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:33:33pm

re: #671 buzzsawmonkey

By taking the action he has, McCain is framing the debate.

Perhaps it is an attempt to do that... but I don't believe it is working. Even the headlines on Drudge have a sort of squishy feel to them... "McCain suspends campaign...".

Only GWB, given his podium, is able to get everybody to listen to him... unfortunately there are legitimate criticisms (IMO) of the Bernanke plan, and if McCain can't deal with those.... or come up with his own ideas... McCain will not be seen as leading on this issue, even if he announces he is "suspending" his campaign - whatever that is supposed to mean.

712 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:33:55pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

That is an astonishing mis-statement of all possible facts in evidence.

713 Racer X  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:33:59pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

I am appalled at the democrats picking such an inexperienced junior senator from Illinois as their pick for president. It is irresponsible, and dangerous. It is clearly a political stunt in order to win the white house.

Two can play this game.

714 Last Mohican  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:34:09pm

re: #709 Dianna

Are you really that contemptuous of your fellow citizens?!

Yes.

715 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:34:34pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

Why are you here? Why don't you slink back to DKos where you belong? You couldn't announce that you hate McCain and love Obama in big bold letters, could you?

716 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:34:47pm

Moving along ----->

717 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:35:02pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman
I'm sorry I can't hang around for the flogging,
but Mr. Sandman, It has been nice to meet ya ./
I'll be too busy this weekend to watch the incredible talent and wisdom on this blog truly hand you your ass!
Let the games begin!

718 zenren  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:35:16pm

Mr. Sandman,

This knuckledragger is still waiting for the list of Obama's qualifications to be POTUS. Oh sorry, do you have to consult your 300 advisors?

719 stuiec  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:35:23pm

re: #652 sparrowlake

Obama's New Campaign Song

Or maybe this?

720 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:35:58pm

Sen. Barack Obama:

My opponent has suspended his campaign to take care of the business of the American people, and I am here to debate myself. In this case, I will be correct about all issues because it is, after all, all about me.
721 Russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:36:14pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

You sure do have your dogma wrapped up tight, dontcha! You are a fool and you might want to borrow from Twain - you can keep your hands off the keyboard and everyone will think you are a fool, or you can post away and remove all doubt.

(Twain was really ahead of his time...)

722 freetoken  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:36:22pm

re: #702 really grumpy big dog Johnson


They are an embarrassment to their country.


This does have an air of the "circuses" part of the "bread and circuses" method of governing....

It is as if everyone has watched one too many TV melodramas.... and think this is another episode of 90210....

723 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:36:28pm

re: #680 Last Mohican
I don't remember that being so for the Saddleback Church Forum.

724 jaunte  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:36:41pm

"When he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president"
is a condemnation of the entire Democratic party.

725 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:36:49pm

warren buffett has begun his own , private bailout

$5 billion in Goldman Sachs shares

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

And Mr Buffett is certainly not a guy to do risky investments.
its not in his nature. (nor in his investment track record)

therefore - all i can assume, is that this is Buffetts own way of propping up the stock market - and the U.S. financial system...

a signal for other billionaires and hedge funds to start jumping in and buying?

726 Jhang  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:38:04pm

This is like the Palin pick all over again. McCain is throwing the Democrat offensive in a loop by doing exactly what Obama has been talking about:

Breaking the political mold.

Instead of talking about the best thing to do, McCain is showing that he actually wants to do something. He is acting like a leader. Whether or not it actually helps us is still an unknown, and could very easily blow up in his face. But hey, watching the Democrats fall and trip over themselves as John McCain once again completely changes the battlefield is going to be enjoyable... and possibly advantageous.

727 zenren  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:38:09pm

Mr Sandman,

Still thumbing through your talking points?

728 Code Red 21  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:38:10pm

re: #117 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I guess Sen. Obama will have to debate Gov. Palin.

No way Sarah would mop the floor with that empty suit. Go Sarah!

729 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:38:38pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

You may just be our next annefrance. Bit more snide condescension, and you're a dead ringer.

730 sparrowlake  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:39:41pm

re: #680 Last Mohican

Obama is a hunky dreamboat with a glowing halo over his head.

Ugh...Chingachgook needum remove tomahawk from butt.

731 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:39:52pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

Haha! Oh boy! Where's my boots? The bullshit is getting thick here! So, what has Obama actually accomplished? Talk about Gimmicks. You know, Obama does not look like those guys on he dollar bill. You are not even a good Propaganist, Your statements have no structure, no ability to create doubt in the mind of the reader. Pick up the pieces of your glass jaw and left over Obama Bread & Wine and move on.

732 Dianna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:40:05pm

Repair to the open thread, and hope that the world appears a better place thereby.

733 Allah al Fubar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:40:29pm

Swimming in a sea of comments, I say:

Great move by McCain. He's more than ready and didn't need over three days to prepare for a debate on foreign policy. The "One" will not waste three days of sweat and prep only to be overshadowed by some 'old wrinkly man' that 'can't even type'. (courtesy of Barack and Paris Hilton).

Now, the "One" will state, " I can multi-task... Look at me!" He'll bomb on the debate despite days of preparation.

McCain will end up getting out on the Senate floor, doing what's right, then show up all sweaty and not dressed for the debate; and kick the ever loving shit out of this unvetted, inexperienced, conceited nose-in-the-air elite candidate. McCain will deliver the final knock out punch. Somebody's gotta jump in front of this bullet that we're facing and I believe it is McCain that will save this Nation in peril. Not this fable called "obama".

Apologize to anyone who has already posted something similar and is totally reading my mind.

734 ThooLou  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:40:30pm

OT, but good lord...

Florida congressman points to Palin to rally Jews to Obama

(CNN) – Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

Dems are absolute scum...

CNN

735 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:40:42pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

Well, that beats picking a candidate for PRESIDENT who is clearly not suited to become president (Obama)

736 Egfrow  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:41:49pm

re: #735 eschew_obfuscation

Well, that beats picking a candidate for PRESIDENT who is clearly not suited to become president (Obama)

Not even suited to validate my parking at the UN.

737 Rancher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:42:25pm

re: #725 buzzdroid

warren buffett has begun his own , private bailout

$5 billion in Goldman Sachs shares

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

And Mr Buffett is certainly not a guy to do risky investments.
its not in his nature. (nor in his investment track record)

therefore - all i can assume, is that this is Buffetts own way of propping up the stock market - and the U.S. financial system...

a signal for other billionaires and hedge funds to start jumping in and buying?

He's getting a sweetheart deal but good for him! Buffets made me a good bit of money, I just read what he's doing and follow.

738 GeeWiz  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:43:24pm

re: #88 snuffyword

Well, maybe GOV. Palin can substitute debate Obie-The One-cannot-be for Mac. I, mean, here's a chance to get some experience of stepping in when the "POTUS-to-be" is busy with other important issues.

Most excellent post! A hundred up-dings! You posted what I was thinking and did it better than I would have. Kudos.

739 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:43:45pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Go watch McCain's convention speech, sir, where he says 'My country saved me. I did not belong to myself anymore. I belonged to my country.'

740 jetprop  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:44:49pm

I heard 0bama's little speech earlier, basically, he said uhh..'if you need me call me'..Buwahahahahaaa...

McCain goes to work and 0bama trots off to wash the arugula.

741 JustMyView  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:45:12pm

re: #679 Dead Man Voting

Haven't scanned all the posts to see if something similar was posted but wasn't Obama hailed for choosing not to appear on SNL on September 13 as Texas dealt with Hurricane Ike?

What exactly was Obama doing while he wasn't appearing on SNL? Something Senatorial?

In this case, Senator McCain is actually dropping his campaign responsibilities to do what he is...ummm...paid to do.

Sure, it's as much of a political statement as Obama's decision to forego SNL. Nonetheless, it's the right thing to do...

True, but a long-scheduled presidential debate is not the same as a cameo appearance on a comedy show.

742 LizardoidCaptain  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:45:39pm

The Talking Heads start up their agenda. Letterman Mocks McCain for Cancelation.

743 Billy Hank  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:45:49pm

Haven't had time to read all this but this move gives Rs a great chance to hold the Congressional majorities closer.

McCain can point to Ds failing to cooperate on issue of grave national import, highlighting all the obfuscation, denial, and self-dealing. Finally, shame Congress into some sort of semi-responsible solution. Then hit them the rest of the way Truman did in 1948.

744 JustAGal  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:46:14pm

re: #742 LizardoidCaptain

puke

745 jaunte  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:47:00pm

re: #741 JustMyView

Obama continues to be just as helpful in an economic crisis as he was in a hurricane.

746 JustAGal  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:47:01pm

re: #744 JustAGal

I meant puke on Letterman

747 jetprop  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:47:45pm

re: #742 LizardoidCaptain

Not surprising. Letterman would mock McCain regardless of his actions.

748 arethusa  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:48:24pm

I don't think this is a "ploy" in the traditional sense. "Ploy" is something like making a Grand Tour of Europe and addressing hundreds of thousands of adoring Germans (not a nation known for their good judgment of leaders).

Sure, this may make McCain look Presidential, so, yeah, it's a ploy in that sense. BUT it helps the country. So long as the US benefits from someone being brave enough to sacrifice the Presidency for his fellow Americans, I'm all for it.

Maybe McCain can change that quote about the surge, "I would rather lose an election than see my country lose a war; my opponent would rather lose a war than an election," to "I would rather lose an election than see my country suffer bankruptcy and deprivation; my opponent would rather that deprivation continue so he can win the Presidency." Reminds me of Henry Clay: "I would rather be right than be President." Hopefully, McCain will fare better than Clay.

749 Talking Stick  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:48:58pm

#133 capitalist piglet

"McCain wants to do his job in the Senate.
Obama wants to finish his waffle."

I wonder what Tookie Williams would have done

750 Talkinkamel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:50:31pm

re: #606 buzzsawmonkey

Mr. Sandman makes a very typical Lefty mistake:

He really thinks he can insult, and bully, his opposition into agreeing with him, and that if he just calls us stupid enough times, we'll give in.

Doesn't work that way.

751 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:51:17pm

re: #748 arethusa

Doing the right thing sometimes can seem like a ploy to those who spend their whole life calculating, but they can't see simplicity anymore.

752 Dekar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:53:56pm

"It's my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess"

Uhhh doesn't Bush step down in January?

753 arethusa  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:56:52pm

re: #752 Dekar

"It's my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess"

Uhhh doesn't Bush step down in January?

Obama's transition team has been ready to go since July. You think he's going to wait till Jan. 20 if he wins? The Bushes will get an eviction notice Nov. 5th.

754 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:57:01pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

Go fuck yourself.

755 legalpad  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:58:35pm

McCain rises to the challenge of crisis, Obama engages in sophomoric accusations. And I continue to view the claim that Obama has "more experience" than Sarah Palin comical.

756 JustMyView  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:58:38pm

re: #747 jetprop

Not surprising. Letterman would mock McCain regardless of his actions.

But this is so transparent. He has time to be interviewed by Katie Couric and to speak at the Clinton Global Initiative, but not to appear on Letterman or debate Obama. If you were God and could assign priorities to those four activities, what would the order be?

757 Dasher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:58:42pm

re: #87 unreconstructed rebel

I'm thinking the old fox may have gotten back inside Bammy's OODA loop. We'll see.

I saw this on another site:

It's that OODA loop thing again.

McCain can be much more agile, because unlike Obama, he doesn't have to clear his words with Axlerod first.

Biden on the other hand is very agile. Course he doesn't even clear his word with Joe first.

HEH

758 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:58:51pm
759 stuiec  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 2:59:52pm

re: #748 arethusa

It's a good strategy: force Obama to justify why he thinks cramming for the debate is more important than doing his job as a Senator. And if Obama caves and comes to Washington for the Senate debate, he can't keep prepping for his debate with McCain.

760 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:00:38pm
761 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:02:50pm

re: #681 Mr. Sandman

Wow, what a venomous accusation. No, Mccain's the one who doesn't "give a damn" about this country, doesn't give a damn about ordinary middle class Americans. Just like he showed he didn't give a damn about national security when he picked a candidate clearly not suited to become president on a moment's notice. He clearly only cares about creating drama to boost his political chances to become president; that's all he cares about at this point, he doesn't care about helping Americans. People like you are willfully ignorant and fooled by these kinds of right wing gimmicks.

And Obama pocesses the skill sets to lead us for the next four years?

What makes "O" qualified?

He's young, speaks well and can read a teleprompter...BFD!

762 jorline  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:04:27pm

re: #761 jorline

And Obama possesses the skill sets to lead us for the next four years?

What makes "O" qualified?

He's young, speaks well and can read a teleprompter...BFD!

PIMF

763 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:04:47pm

re: #756 JustMyView

Any comments on the Obama / Ayers connection now?

Ayers was the cofounder of the CAC, and Obama was chairman of the board; Kurtz makes it clear that Obama worked more closely with Ayers than previously suggested. But mostly Kurtz concentrates on what the CAC actually did. There are two serious issues here: Mainstream media have shown an almost complete lack of interest in both of them.

[snip]

But it's interesting that Obama, in his two autobiographies and in his campaign, has said almost nothing about the one executive position he has held and his one major effort on education. If you don't have anything positive to say, it's a good idea to say nothing and hope that nobody else will say anything either.

Michael Barone US News and World Report

764 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:05:47pm

re: #761 jorline

And Obama pocesses the skill sets to lead us for the next four years?

What makes "O" qualified?

He's young, speaks well and can read a teleprompter...BFD!

And don't forget Obama was personally chosen and groomed by the chicago political machine, at least imo.

Sandman thinks if he tells us we are ignorant fools, we will suddenly see the light.

765 NotaLib  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:07:24pm

McCain is putting the country first

766 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:08:22pm

re: #737 Rancher

He's getting a sweetheart deal but good for him! Buffets made me a good bit of money, I just read what he's doing and follow.

i know - but its also a STRONG signal to other American investors - time to stop dissing the american economy, and bring the dollar home.

its time to invest in the homeland.

he does NOT do risky investments - this smacks of the political.

767 MJBrutus  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:08:27pm

re: #24 Happy4LA

Absolutely correct. But incomplete. Millions of our fellow citizens committed fraud and other forms of irresponsibility at OUR expense. Back in the '90s, the Congressional Black Caucus sold new lending rules as a civil rights issue. As a result, millions of people who had no standing to qualify for a loan under traditional lending practices were extended loans with no money down, interest only payments and a bunch of other hokey terms. When houses stopped their exponential rise in value (gee it didn't go on forever, who'd a thunk it?) many of them just walked away from the home the had no stake in.

I say FUCK THEM ALL. FUCK the bankers who bought junk without due diligence. FUCK the borrowers who lied and cheated about their income and assets on their loan docs.

768 CoolShades  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:09:00pm

Can someone remind Obama he's still collecting a paycheck for pretending being a U.S. Senator.

769 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:09:14pm

re: #680 Last Mohican

Agreed. Postponing the debate for a week won't help McCain. He's going to get his clock cleaned, whenever the debate happens. Not because of anything he believes or says, but because he's a short old man, and Obama is a hunky dreamboat with a glowing halo over his head. If you put them on TV together, America will prefer whoever looks more like the spokesmodel they were just watching before they changed the channel. The closer the debates are to the election, the more they hurt McCain.

No way. Obama looks as if a gentle breeze would topple him.

770 buzzdroid  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:11:45pm

Obama reminds me of Gordon Brown - anytime there is a big problem, he runs away.

same as the British Prime Minister. he has a long track record in it, especially when he was finance minister.

anytime some major economic crisis happened, he sent his underlings to the TV studios instead of being confronted himself by reporters.

there's a nickname for Gordon Brown over here in the UK - "MacCavity the Cat"... Obama will just be the same.

771 talon_262  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:11:59pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

You're so full of bovine excrement and you know it...your man Obama still insists on campaigning as usual and preparing for Friday's debate, while McCain is at least doing something by going back on the job in DC to help craft a legislative solution to this market mess.

While this may be smart political gamemanship on McCain's part to suspend his campaign and ask to postpone Friday's debate, it's also the right thing to do because we need those Senators (McCain, Obama, and Biden) back in Washington doing their job on this matter, not stumping for office.

772 NotaLib  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:12:40pm

re: #763 jcm


There all have the same aim, some are just more open about itObama's America

773 SFGoth  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:13:14pm

re: #687 Dianna

Not on this one point, Fannie and Freddie.

He's nearly obliged to be there, as he's one of the few legislators who's spoken sense on the subject in the last decade.

He's making like he needs to be there to weigh in on how to fix the mess. Warning of it and fixing it are different. He can be briefed on the campaign trail and fly in for a vote. His wife has enough $ for him to fly first class.

774 GeeWiz  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:13:21pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

If it wasn't for you and Cognito, I would have no use for the "down-ding" button. I'm sure you wear that as a badge of "honor".

775 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:18:37pm

re: #773 SFGoth

Fly in for a vote? Sounds fairly antiseptic. I'm sure this is all there is to do on the subject. Many thanks sent.

776 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:21:34pm

re: #23 Summersong

Oh! So I can expect a new Obama ad berating McCain for this position in 3, 2, 1...

The left is calling this a "stunt".


Imagine, if you will, the type of thinking that would characterize a Senator putting his job before his ambitions a "stunt".

Boggles the mind.

777 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:22:01pm

Obambi told Pelosi and Reid to call him if they needed him...

Obviously, they didn't call.

They don't need him for the real work of being a Senator.

This crisis needs senior legislators and leaders, not Obambi.

He is NOT ready to lead.

Nothing in the world could be more apparent than this right now.

778 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:23:22pm

re: #756 JustMyView

But this is so transparent. He has time to be interviewed by Katie Couric and to speak at the Clinton Global Initiative, but not to appear on Letterman or debate Obama. If you were God and could assign priorities to those four activities, what would the order be?

"If you were God (read: Obama) and could assign priorities to those four activities, what would the order be?"

779 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:24:24pm

re: #742 LizardoidCaptain

The Talking Heads start up their agenda. Letterman Mocks McCain for Cancelation.

Perhaps one of Letterman's associates would be so kind as to point out that John McCain is a Senator. That is his job.... not running for President.

780 Dr. Stu  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:24:53pm

I am going to mark down today as the day that McCain lost the election.

I am still voting for him, but I am getting a very bad feeling about this move of his. However, it's funny how surprised the media is at how Mavericky he is being in this move.

781 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:25:06pm

I see Mr. Sandman is preaching the typical talking points and usual themes.

Obama's slight increase in the polls the last few days is not that significant.

782 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:25:53pm

re: #756 JustMyView

But this is so transparent. He has time to be interviewed by Katie Couric and to speak at the Clinton Global Initiative, but not to appear on Letterman or debate Obama. If you were God and could assign priorities to those four activities, what would the order be?

If you're a lefltist, of course appearing on Letterman is more important than going back to Washington.

783 I Need A Bigger Gun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:26:44pm

re: #570 jwb7605

Damn straight. Makes me stand-up-straighter proud to support him.
Pray he catches the #3 wire.

As an ex-carrier guy, I can appreciate that sentiment. And I was on the same carrier that Mac flew off of (U.S.S. Forrestal).

784 LC HOGHEAD  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:28:58pm

Let's thank democrats like Chris "Countrywide" Dodd and Barack "Fannie Mae" Obama for selling out Americans and causing this financial crisis. What do you think happens when you give out loans to poor people who can't afford them? Let's hold the corrupt democrats accountable.

785 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:29:26pm

So...Obambi is saying that the debate is ON?

Does he really plan on standing there all by himself?

I really hope that McCain sends Sarah Palin in his place.

Obambi would be turned upside down while trying to remember NOT to call Sarah Palin by the name "Sweetie."

She would wipe up the floor with Obama.

786 Wm T Sherman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:29:40pm

re: #217 Mr. Sandman

What a shameful political gimmick/stunt. He saw Obama with a clear edge and momentum in recent polls, and concludes that since the endgame is approaching he must try this gambit. I have no idea how this will play, whether it will boost him to a cheap win or backfire (just like I didn't have any clue how the Sarah Palin pick, another political stunt, would play). But this is clearly putting Mccain, not country first, and any of you folks with integrity will admit this.

To disagree can only be attributed to lack integrity? Not just to a different take?

Leftist reasoning -- your opponents don't merely disagree with you, but are pure evil, etc.

I understand.

787 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:30:05pm

re: #784 LC HOGHEAD

Let's thank democrats like Chris "Countrywide" Dodd and Barack "Fannie Mae" Obama for selling out Americans and causing this financial crisis. What do you think happens when you give out loans to poor people who can't afford them? Let's hold the corrupt democrats accountable.

Never happen, it couldn't not in the beltway that is.....

It makes sense.

788 talon_262  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:30:06pm

re: #337 taxfreekiller

Sandblow

you ever fly off a carrier deck
you ever fly over Hanoi
you ever get shot at and hit by a Sam missile
you ever get your ass kicked 5 1/2 years and live to tell the tale

or do you look at a mirror and see sand blowing around in a mindless way

You know, tfk, sometimes I have a hard time deciphering your posts, but that one is loud and clear...definitely a homerun!

789 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:30:25pm

re: #764 reine.de.tout

Yeah........I am an ignorant fool and proud of it!
We just all can't be "cool" and as hip as the "smart" people. After all they have to have someone to look down on and fault and blame for all their woes.
/sarcasm/

790 ladycatnip  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:30:39pm

For all those who love Obama, does this quote not bother you?

‘I will stand with the (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’ Quote by Obama: From Audacity of Hope.

This guy would stand with muslims - after what they did to the U.S., and are continuing to do around the world in horrific terrorist acts. Unbelievable. If there is a new mental disease beyond insanity, the left embodies it.

791 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:31:46pm

re: #785 Adina in Judea

It will be Obama and his teleprompter at the debate!

792 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:32:06pm

re: #773 SFGoth

He's making like he needs to be there to weigh in on how to fix the mess. Warning of it and fixing it are different. He can be briefed on the campaign trail and fly in for a vote. His wife has enough $ for him to fly first class.

So instead of taking a position of leadership, you want Senator McCain to "phone in" his vote after everyone else hashes through the details?

What's his job? Is he a US Senator or is he a Presidential candidate?

Here's a hint: One is an actual job. The other is not. Which do you think is more important?

793 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:35:55pm

re: #784 LC HOGHEAD

Let's thank democrats like Chris "Countrywide" Dodd and Barack "Fannie Mae" Obama for selling out Americans and causing this financial crisis. What do you think happens when you give out loans to poor people who can't afford them? Let's hold the corrupt democrats accountable.

Absolutely!

It doesn't make sense to give out mortgages to people who can't pay them as some sort of attempt to give everyone the "gift" of home ownership.

794 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:36:49pm

re: #791 Nancy

re: #785 Adina in Judea

It will be Obama and his teleprompter at the debate!

A match made in heaven! :)

795 I Need A Bigger Gun  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:39:03pm

re: #603 sidtara

If McCain is still working on this bill on Friday, he can always ask Palin to debate Obama instead. Isn't that what VPs are for?

Obama's head wouldn't really explode, would it?

I see a remake of "Scanners"...

796 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:39:30pm

re: #792 Wendya

Not only is it their job but one or the other --McCain or Obama is going to be the next president and the action taken now is going to commit them to it.

I cannot imagine why Obama would not want to be there and have input into what action is taken. It's the next president that is going to be bound by it.

797 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:39:41pm

re: #780 Dr. Stu

Perseverance, Dr. Stu. It is not the one who tells you that he taking his gloves off, that one needs to be of worry. It is the one who drops them & goes about his business without the need to tell all first. Let's imagine that this is now Friday evening. What has Barry been up to? Lunch at the Ladies Aux. followed by a Union shop meeting, then the solo debate? Compare that to the actions of JSM. Who helping whom & our nation the most?

798 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:41:57pm

re: #792 Wendya

re: #773 SFGoth

He's making like he needs to be there to weigh in on how to fix the mess. Warning of it and fixing it are different. He can be briefed on the campaign trail and fly in for a vote. His wife has enough $ for him to fly first class.

So instead of taking a position of leadership, you want Senator McCain to "phone in" his vote after everyone else hashes through the details?

What's his job? Is he a US Senator or is he a Presidential candidate?

Here's a hint: One is an actual job. The other is not. Which do you think is more important?

Excellent points!

The left wants McCain to become as divorced from the reality of being a U.S. Senator as Obama is.

Obama is just a guy in the Senate who can be "called" if he's needed (which he never is.) McCain has been an actual U.S. Senator all these years. The difference between McCain and Obama is measured in light years when it comes to being responsible in this job.

The Presidency of the United States is not a place to learn leadership and responsibility after being elected. Obama and his training wheels aren't ready.

Thanks!

799 Kenneth  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:42:15pm

One of 2 things will happen:

1. The Senate will hammer out a rescue package & the economy will be salvaged - McCain will look like he did the right thing, while Obama will look like he did nothing.

2. The Senate will fail to pass the bill & the economy will collapse. - McCain will look like he tried, while Obama will look like he did nothing.

Meanwhile let's hope Obama goes to Mississippi and has a little tantrum when McCain stays in Washington.

800 Kenneth  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:46:14pm

re: #790 ladycatnip

‘I will stand with the (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’ Quote by Obama: From Audacity of Hope.

Repeat as necessary.

By the way, Obama's idea of standing by the Muslims is to abandon Iraq to the Iranian terrorists. He said an impending Iraqi genocide was "not sufficient reason" to justify the surge strategy.

801 spidly  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:48:28pm

Obama.... what a punk

802 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:49:11pm

re: #780 Dr. Stu

I don't think he has lost the election by any means.
Better this gets brought out now since it was very likely the markets may have collapsed closer to the election.

This brings it out onto the table. No "October" surprise which clearly would have been an advantage to the Democrats.

803 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:50:40pm

Some freaks at HuffPo suggested that McCain is "afraid" to debate. Now, if you heard his story of captivity in Vietnam, does that sound like a man afraid to debate? Or lose an election?

804 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:53:42pm

re: #803 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Some freaks at HuffPo suggested that McCain is "afraid" to debate. Now, if you heard his story of captivity in Vietnam, does that sound like a man afraid to debate? Or lose an election?

The debate this week was supposed to be on foreign policy, which is McCain's strongest issue.

McCain asked for a number of debates with The One that were refused, meanwhile.

The moonbats are just doing their usual wailing and whining.

805 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:54:03pm

re: #803 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Some freaks at HuffPo suggested that McCain is "afraid" to debate. Now, if you heard his story of captivity in Vietnam, does that sound like a man afraid to debate? Or lose an election?

Let's see, McCain suggested Saddleback with both on stage at the same time.
BHO declined.
McCain suggested 10 un-moderated Townhall debates.
BHO declined.

Who's skeered?

806 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:56:14pm

Dan Riehl suggests to McCain:

1) Say you can understand Obama's point of view as he has never been engaged in anything this serious on Capitol Hill, or anywhere else.

2) Volunteer to let his VP nominee sit in for him against Obama on Friday.

807 Adina in Judea  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:58:19pm

re: #802 Nancy

re: #780 Dr. Stu

I don't think he has lost the election by any means.
Better this gets brought out now since it was very likely the markets may have collapsed closer to the election.

This brings it out onto the table. No "October" surprise which clearly would have been an advantage to the Democrats.

Yes, this definitely puts the spotlight on what happens right now.

The Dems would rather mess around with all this until things are far worse so that they can wail (dishonestly) that it's all Bush's fault and that Lord Barry needs to be elected to fix the entire galaxy on the day he takes office.

Something needs to be done now and McCain is applying the proper pressure.

He's doing the right thing.

808 Dahveed  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 3:59:05pm

I think this is advantage to McCain. He is working on a major issue and doing the thing he was elected to do. He is representing his constituency by voting in the Senate. 0bama looks like he is doing what he does best which is not take a stand on anything. He apparently does not want to vote on this. He doesn't want to speak in the Senate and discuss his views. So he will leave it up to others to make the decision that he is unable to apparently make himself.

The 0bama campaign is complaining that president's should be able to do more than one thing at once. 0bama is showing all he know how to do is run for president. He certainly hasn't done anything else while in the Senate.

809 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:01:02pm

re: #796 Nancy

I cannot imagine why Obama would not want to be there and have input into what action is taken. It's the next president that is going to be bound by it.

Exactly.

First Obama said he had an economic plan that would "fix" our current problems but he didn't want to release it. Now he's cobbling together bits and pieces based on the limited polling we've had so far. All McCain has to do is say..... Senator Obama told us he had a plan. Isn't it incumbent upon him to go to Washington and present it to the Senate?


Rock, meet hard place.

810 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:03:07pm

BHO should call Barbara Striesand & see if she would be available for a Friday night prime time fund raiser to benefit his campaign.

811 minkyboodle  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:03:28pm

I've just spent an hour reading all my normal blogs, and there is no consensus on whether this move will hurt McCain or help. But there is a common note in many that say this will help. They all say McCain is faltering in the polls and he needed a bold move like this to boost his numbers.
Codswallop!
Stupid polls mean nothing. They are cooked the same way the newspaper editorials are cooked. Obama is the candidate without a leg to stand on. He is recognized coast to coast as a huge party blunder. (Notice the Clinton's aren't doing squat to help him.) He looks good only on newspaper and not the ballot, and national polls are like TV "news". They are hiding more truth than they tell.

(cool, spellcheck!)

812 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:06:00pm

re: #807 Adina in Judea

This was "waiting to happen" and I think that Bush decided, get it out NOW because things get any worse and then it would be too late.

It's not good and an economic crisis never favors Republicans but I don't think there was any choice.

A clear case can be made AFTER that for years the Democrats have blocked every warning and every bill that sought to limit Fanny/Freddie from the risks they were taking. The evidence is all there going all the way back to Bush's first budget in April, 2001 --he warned Congress that Freddie/Fanny were in serious trouble.

813 Mark1957  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:07:31pm

THIS JUST IN!

"Today, Obama's teleprompter, tired of its constant mistreatment by the presidential candidate, assaulted him as he was attempting to give a speech in a rodeo ring. Secret Service agents immediately wrestled the teleprompter to the ground, hog-tied it, and placed the machine into protective custody. Mr. Obama was not injured in the incident, but remains in shock and still unable to talk. Joe Biden, Obama's running mate, was unavailable for comment due to the fact that a large piece of duct tape had been super-glued over his mouth."

Developing.....

814 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:09:45pm

Reid to McCain: Don't Come Back to Capitol

A Democrat tells ABC News that, in a phone call late this afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that it would NOT be helpful for him to come back to Washington, D.C., to work on the Wall Street bailout bill.

Update @ the bottom of the page:

UPDATE: McCain senior adviser Mark Salter emails: "Yesterday, Harry Reid said that consensus couldn't be achieved without John McCain's leadership. John stepped up and is providing that leadership. Now Senator Reid seems to have changed his mind for reasons we'll let him explain. But what he should understand is that this isn't about Harry Reid or John McCain or Barack Obama. It's about the American people and, in the words of Warren Buffet, the financial Pearl Harbor they're facing. John's committed to doing his part to help avert that calamity. We hope Senator Reid is too."

Political Punch

815 Mark1957  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:13:49pm

Reid to McCain: Don't Come Back to Capitol

McCain to Reid: F*** You Four-Eyes. Just Try and Stop Me!

816 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:14:02pm

re: #811 minkyboodle

McCain isn't faltering in the polls. Obama gained but a few "percent" points in a couple states right after he had been there and gave his stump speech.

It certainly wouldn't suggest McCain is "faltering" only that Obama gained some small support where he had just appeared. I don't think that would be unusual.

817 DU Jimbo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:15:40pm

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

818 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:16:37pm

re: #814 sngnsgt

I hope McCain ignores him and goes now that he announced he was going to do it.

819 Dasher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:16:58pm

re: #813 Mark1957

THIS JUST IN!

"Today, Obama's teleprompter, tired of its constant mistreatment by the presidential candidate, assaulted him as he was attempting to give a speech in a rodeo ring. Secret Service agents immediately wrestled the teleprompter to the ground, hog-tied it, and placed the machine into protective custody. Mr. Obama was not injured in the incident, but remains in shock and still unable to talk. Joe Biden, Obama's running mate, was unavailable for comment due to the fact that a large piece of duct tape had been super-glued over his mouth."

Developing.....

ROTFLMAO

820 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:17:44pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

Nobody who drove downtown 22 times is yellow.

FOAD!

821 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:18:26pm

re: #814 sngnsgt

Reid to McCain: Don't Come Back to Capitol


Political Punch

Wait.... is this the same Harry Reid who said "We don't know what to do" earlier this month? Well, move aside Harry. Someone who is ready to act is coming back into town and you're just dead weight.

822 Mr. Sandman  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:18:30pm

So more facts are coming in. Early in the day Obama was proposing to Mccain to hold a joint press conference to put out a joint-statement on the principles for the legislation that they both agree on (e.g., limits to CEO compensation, oversight of funds disbursement, etc). Now, this would have been a legitimately bi-partisan cooperative event, with neither campaign politically benefiting more than the other, and it would have likely facilitated cooperation in the Senate and House on a package with these essential provisions. Then Mccain pulls his flat-out political stunt, without holding doing the joint-statement that Obama thought they were going to do. Be honest with yourselves. Clearly Obama's idea, if Mccain hadn't torpedoed it without telling him, would have been a true attempt for the Congress negotiations on the bill to work more fluently and efficiently. And neither candidate would have politically benefited more than the other. If this weren't a political stunt on Mccain's part, he would have at least held the joint conference before "declaring" a suspension of the campaign and debate. No, he cares more about manufacturing drama in a desperate attempt to gain momentum for the presidency than he does in really, truly trying to get good, solid legislation passed as soon as possible. His stunt will no doubt delay the work of the Senate.

Furthermore, where is Mccain now? Is he in Washington? No, he hasn't gone back, and he won't tomorrow either. So if it's so urgent that he be there, that Friday's debate must be canceled, then why didn't he return IMMEDIATELY?. I am now significantly more confident than I was initially that the public will see right through this gimmick.

823 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:19:14pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

Aren't you the clever little boy.

Does Mommy know you're on the computer?

824 ninjadan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:21:01pm

re: #822 Mr. Sandman

Yup, joint statements are awesome. I love it when people make statements instead of actually, you know, doing things. But it's cool, I guess forming a unified front on a statement as opposed to actually doing things is good too.

825 xnar  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:21:06pm

So Obama is on the phone to Harry and Nancy and says:

If you need me, call me.

Heh.

826 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:22:37pm

re: #822 Mr. Sandman

So more facts

I'm sorry to interrupt you. I'm sure you meant talking points, not facts.

Why aren't you asking why the messiah hasn't ridden into Washington on his pink Unicorn to deliver the "solution" he claims he has to all our economic woes?

Gee.... doesn't that bother you even a little bit? He claimed he would fix our problems and make our lives better yet he's cowering in the corner urinating on himself.

827 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:24:14pm
828 Cosmo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:25:10pm

"...in 40 days will be responsible for this mess."

Um, Barack? In the U.S. we don't inaugurate until Jan. 20. I realize that American Political Tradition isn't offered at Columbia or Harvard, but had you attended a grade school instead of a madrassa, you may have learned it in the sixth grade. That's where I learned it.

The president-elect wouldn't be "responsible" for this mess until then. Of course, numbers don't seem to be your strong suit, 52 of the 57 states agree with me on that.

As for culpability, this sits right on the Dems' shoulders. Greenspan warned of this in 2005, the GOP pushed for additional regulations, your party blocked all these efforts.

It's time to shout loud and proud that the jackasses looked the other way while the elephant in the room was trying to mitigate or even avoid the current financial mess.

829 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:26:16pm
830 stuiec  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:27:41pm

re: #815 Mark1957

Reid to McCain: Don't Come Back to Capitol

McCain to Reid: F*** You Four-Eyes. Just Try and Stop Me!

So Reid is telling a sitting U.S. Senator not to participate in the business of the Senate? Wait -- he's telling TWO sitting U.S. Senators not to participate in the business of the Senate?

Well, gee -- why doesn't he just tell all of the Republican Senators to stay home every day, so that the Senate can do its business free from political considerations?

I am liking this move by McCain more and more. Pins Obama and Reid right to the wall like bugs on corkboard.

831 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:28:20pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.


I know ,, the coward. Imagine having every tooth in your head busted. your arms tied in back of you until your shoulders popped. Fractured arms and legs and when asked if he wanted to go home, said "no ,, him 1st". Seeing the light of day 15 minutes out of every 24 hours, if at all. And after he got home, NEVER saying anything about it !

What a wuss !

832 Mark1957  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:28:27pm

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

DU Jimbo,

Ooooooooh, with a potty mouth like that, somebody isn't going to get their fruit cup tonight.

833 stuiec  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:30:41pm

re: #826 Wendya

Obama is caught in a double bind. If he goes to Washington, he has to stop prepping for his big foreign policy debate. If he stays in Florida doing debate prep, he can't claim any kind of leadership in dealing with the financial crisis.

Leadership, after all, does involve actually showing up and participating. Obama seems to think that leadership consists of obeying orders from Pelosi and Reid.

834 oh_dude  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:31:37pm

I was just listening to Larry Elder. He thinks Mac's decision is commendable but politically, he thinks it's a huge mistake.

835 stuiec  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:31:37pm

re: #831 sattv4u2

Be fair. It was only a few teeth.

On the other hand, you forgot to mention the hog-tying.

836 iceman1960  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:32:52pm

Call me crazy. But what if we are about to see a major rope-a-dope moment?
Can't McCain have a stand-in in the debate?
If I'm not mistaken it happened when Carter was president.
What if, and I'm just throwing it out there.
What if McCain is busy in DC addressing the financial crisis and he actually would have Palin Pinch hit? Is that possible?
And how would Obama be able to reject going up against the #2 position?
If he said no he'd look like the one running scared and if he said yes he would put himself in the position of debating the #2 spot on the ticket.
One of the biggest issues in this campaign has been Palin's experience compared to Obama's and on foreign affairs.
Just saying it would be one hell of a political maneuver.

837 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:33:09pm

re: #835 stuiec

Be fair. It was only a few teeth.

On the other hand, you forgot to mention the hog-tying.

my fingers were getting tired (and my eyes misty) writing about the torture I did mention!

838 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:33:29pm

re: #820 jcm

Nobody who drove downtown 22 times is yellow.

FOAD!

My utmost kudos, JCM.

839 arethusa  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:35:45pm

re: #836 iceman1960

Call me crazy. But what if we are about to see a major rope-a-dope moment?
Can't McCain have a stand-in in the debate?
If I'm not mistaken it happened when Carter was president.
What if, and I'm just throwing it out there.
What if McCain is busy in DC addressing the financial crisis and he actually would have Palin Pinch hit? Is that possible?
And how would Obama be able to reject going up against the #2 position?
If he said no he'd look like the one running scared and if he said yes he would put himself in the position of debating the #2 spot on the ticket.
One of the biggest issues in this campaign has been Palin's experience compared to Obama's and on foreign affairs.
Just saying it would be one hell of a political maneuver.

I don't think anyone would be that stupid. (Has anyone quoted their young daughter in a debate since Carter?) They're not going to allow Obama the stage for 90 minutes by himself while he discourses on foreign policy.

My fantasy is McCain goes to Washington, there's a solution, and he flies into Oxford just in time for the debate, and announces it to the world.

840 Perplexed  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:35:50pm

Looks like some sleepers have awoken and now obey their masters.

841 wrl1984  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:36:49pm

Bottom line is McCain understands this is a catastrophe .NObama will let our economy get flushed down the toilet.

842 dwigg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:37:54pm

re: #836 iceman1960

Lil' Barry will just have to contain himself till Tue, Wed, or Thur of next week. What's the big deal, can't he remember his prep till then?

843 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:38:07pm

re: #822 Mr. Sandman


In 2005 Fed chairman Alan Greenspan warned congress about Freddie and Fannie. The Senate Banking Committee attempted to add new regulations to help stop the corruption. ALL OF THE DEMOCRATS VOTED AGAINST THOSE REGULATIONS. (all of the Republicans voted FOR the regulations).
Those regulations would have stopped the trillions of dollars spent by Fannie and Freddie bundling bad loans (all while Jamie Gorelick and Franklin Raines skimmed millions off the top - both democrats)

Why would you support such corruption and financial ineptitude? Do you like screwing over fellow Americans? I suppose since the corruption was perpetrated by democrats - that you think it's all okay?

844 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:38:27pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

Only 9 downdings, including mine.
Didn't he just issue a challenge?

845 Viking6  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:38:44pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

Well its my observation that the individuals that can make this type of observation have actually never had to really deal with a consequence of action would deprive them of life or liberty. In the words of others more eloquent than I, FOAD

846 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:39:22pm

re: #822 Mr. Sandman

Chris Dodd already WROTE a compromise bill adding all those provisions which OBAMA stated he wanted and would be far beyond the scope of the Treasury Department. In other words, it gave the treasury department MORE power than the Paulson plan did. With almost no safeguards.

The Republicans in Congress do NOT support the bailout in PRINCIPLE. They were not going to vote for it no matter how many "provisions" Dodd added.

It is your Democrat Nancy Pelosi who said she would NOT call it to the floor for a vote unless she had a majority of GOP votes. She wanted to make sure that the bailout would be blamed on Bush and the Republicans.

847 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:40:17pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

Look what the cat spat up in an ugly hairball.

848 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:41:09pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

Well, you got a ways to go, but you are definitely on a run there. Would you care to elaborate, or are you just runnin' your fat piehole to see yourself for the dribbling fool you are?

Just curious, of course.

849 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:42:45pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

Stupid motherfucker.

850 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:43:42pm

re: #844 jwb7605

Only 9 downdings, including mine.
Didn't he just issue a challenge?

I'm torn on giving 'em too much attention.

851 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:44:47pm

re: #850 jcm

At least the NIC is easy to remember.

852 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:17pm

re: #851 Cap'n DOC

At least the NIC is easy to remember.

And easy to see where it came from.....

853 Spider Mensch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:49pm

well all us older lizards know anytime there's a open registration, we're bound to pick up a few libs and leftards, the flotsam and jetsam of moonbat sea, but if these two, sandpaper and du jimmybocarter are the representation of the left...well I gotta tell ya...I'm feeling pretty good that obama isn't winning anything come november. as the saying goes "with friends like these two..." lol.you can fill in the rest.

854 jopa416  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:48:28pm

Sorry guys, but I think this is going to backfire in McCain's face. The media will make it look like he is too chicken to debate & the Dem's in congress will act like he is in the way of progress. McCain & most republicans would be much better served pointing out exactly how the democrats stopped every piece of legislation over the past 8 years that was aimed at averting this crisis. Say it over & over again.

Since the republicans are not, in fact, defending themselves as Barney Frank, Harry Reid & Nancy Pelosi pin the blame for this all over their asses, I can only assume that the republicans either consider themselves guilty or are happy with what is about to happen.

This is how republicans lose their base.

855 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:50:05pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

lol,
you're quite the intellectual ain'tcha, dumb0?

856 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:18pm

re: #854 jopa416

I agree. McCain needs to turn on the ads and do the debate.

857 FloridaAnole  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:32pm

re: #817 DU Jimbo

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

How'd he get in here, with a name beginning DU? Obviously an employee of Astroturfers R Us.

858 Dasher  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:49pm

re: #832 Mark1957

McLame's yellow as well as senile. Fuck'm.

DU Jimbo,

Ooooooooh, with a potty mouth like that, somebody isn't going to get their fruit cup tonight.

May also be a short lived Lizard.

859 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:54:28pm

re: #853 Spider Mensch

What I can't understand is why anyone who believes they are presenting solid facts and logical arguments would waste their time with persons they believe are too ignorant or fools.

So why do they come here if they believe we are too dumb to "get it."

860 talon_262  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:57:18pm

re: #337 taxfreekiller

Sandblow

you ever fly off a carrier deck
you ever fly over Hanoi
you ever get shot at and hit by a Sam missile
you ever get your ass kicked 5 1/2 years and live to tell the tale

or do you look at a mirror and see sand blowing around in a mindless way

You know, tfk, sometimes I have a hard time deciphering your posts, but that one is loud and clear...definitely a homerun!re: #468 buzzsawmonkey

Mr. Sandman
--with apologies to the Chordettes

(scat “bung, bung, bung, bung..........)

Mr. Sandman posts on the board (bung, bung, bung, bung)
But by most others he's usually ignored (bung, bung, bung, bung)
Sometimes they'll let themselves make merry (bung, bung, bung, bung)
'Cause everything he posts is quite contrary.
Sandman's posts are bereft
Of anything not from the doctrined Left
Please fire up your magic bong
Mr. Sandman, explain why we're wrong.

(scat “bung, bung, bung, bung.….)

Mr. Sandman always can see
Things that are hidden from everybody
He sees the dismal as happy and gay
To him what's black is bright as Monday wash day.
Sandman, I'm so confused
Thank goodness you're here to explain the news
Please fire up your magic bong
Mr. Sandman, explain why we're wrong

(scat “bung, bung, bung, bung)

Mr. Sandman (male voice: “Yesss?) we're glad you share
The muddled thoughts that roil beneath your hair
It's good to see what drives the opposition
The better to defeat all its positions.
Mr Sandman, your stands perverse
Are now memorialized in deathless verse
So please fire up your magic bong
Mr Sandman, tell us, please, please, please
Mr Sandman, explain why we're wrong.

(scat “bung, bung, bung, bung….)

We're not worthy....we're not worthy...we're not worthy!

/Wayne & Garth ;-P

861 nigella  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:58:10pm

My take on this is that McCain truly thinks this is an emergency. The debates should favor him so he's not dodging them. He looks Presidential to me unlike Obama who says"Call me if you need me." Is he going to do that if Iran decides to attack Israel while he is taking his vacation? Real big of him to compare a debate as being asimportant as the biggest financial crisis I have seen in my lifetime!

862 Dan G.  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:58:38pm

I'm curious why this is being considered a nation-wide economic problem; these banks made bad investments, why should we, the taxpayers, buy them knowing full well that the face value is over-inflated?

863 talon_262  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:00:56pm

re: #860 talon_262

Damnit, PIMF..had a recovered reply to tfk (that I already posted) in the comment box when replied to buzzsaw.

864 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:01:40pm

re: #853 Spider Mensch

I would suggest they line up a hotline before the November election. If they couldn't get over that Kerry lost, it is going to be even worse when "the ONE" isn't elected.

865 SFGoth  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:04:23pm

re: #792 Wendya

So instead of taking a position of leadership, you want Senator McCain to "phone in" his vote after everyone else hashes through the details?

What's his job? Is he a US Senator or is he a Presidential candidate?

Here's a hint: One is an actual job. The other is not. Which do you think is more important?

Oh please, John "I'm not too good at economomics" McCain is not going to take a position of leadership on this issue. My god, first LGF's readership goes from attempting to ex-communicate him from the GOP to stroking him as TR & RR combined all because he selected Sarah Palin. He can hash through the details on the trail. Ever heard of telecommuting? As I said, dangerous stunt.

866 Dan G.  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:06:28pm

re: #865 SFGoth

I agree.

867 Wendya  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:06:31pm

re: #862 Dan G.

I'm curious why this is being considered a nation-wide economic problem; these banks made bad investments, why should we, the taxpayers, buy them knowing full well that the face value is over-inflated?

Do you think the fallout is limited strictly to the owners of banks?

868 jopa416  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:07:28pm

re: #829 FrogMarch