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Politics | Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:44:50 pm PDT

Race cards! Get yer race cards here!

(CNN) – Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

“If Sarah Palin isn’t enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention,” Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida said at a panel about the shared agenda of Jewish and African-American Democrats Wednesday. Hastings, who is African-American, was explaining what he intended to tell his Jewish constituents about the presidential race. “Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through,” Hastings added as the room erupted in laughter and applause.

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1 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:45:58pm

If any white politician had said that, they would've been toast. Disgraceful.

2 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:46:17pm

Alcee you in Spades.

3 GoJeepGo  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:46:30pm

That card loses value every time it's played

4 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:46:43pm

really

5 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:03pm

I hope I said that right. I'd hate to be called something ugly.

6 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:16pm
7 vbspurs  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:25pm

Alcee needs to stop ripping off talking points from P. Diddy: "Yo man, are there even BLACK people in Alaska?".

8 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:28pm

Race baiting asshole.

9 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:42pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Ooooh. Better.

10 arethusa  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:47:42pm

Alcee Hastings is a paragon of virtue, the like we have never seen before.

Remember how his impeachment was constantly cited when Clinton was impeached? Remember how Pelosi actually wanted the man impeached for bribery in charge of House Foreign Relations?

11 researchok  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:48:02pm

Unfreakin' believable.

One great political/judicial lowlifes is opining the character of others.

What a pig!

12 kynna  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:48:29pm

Disgusting.

13 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:48:32pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

You, are the pun master. Ko map sumnida, sa bum nim.

14 Kenneth  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:48:47pm

Thanks Alcee! That's another dozen busloads of pissed of Jewish voters driving over to McCain.

Bring it on!

15 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:49:39pm
16 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:50:00pm
“Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through,” Hastings added as the room erupted in laughter and applause.

What a bullshit statement and what an ignorant response.

Un-effin-believable.

17 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:50:15pm

Sarah Palin would do more for blacks than any other "black" leader has. What have they done for the black community? Enslaved them to the goverment teet......destroyed their with families with feel good but ultimately flawed social programs? Alcee Hastings sounds like just another race hustler. What happens if Obama wins? Who will Alcee blame for all the troubles in the black community then? Alcee will not be able to pull out his race card on whitey anymore.

18 ArmyWife  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:51:17pm

"toting guns?" Wow - so what does that make me if I am a Jew who also totes guns? Do I need to go get counseling now?

19 Jimmah  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:51:26pm

As a Brit, I'm obviously missing the connection between having guns and stripping moose, and persecution of racial/ethnic minorities.

20 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:51:59pm

In the history of the United States only 7 federal judges have been impeached and removed.

Alcee Hastings is one of those.

The Democrat Party allows him to sit in Congress.

21 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:00pm

re: #17 Desert Dog

Sarah Palin would do more for blacks than any other "black" leader has. What have they done for the black community? Enslaved them to the goverment teet......destroyed their with families with feel good but ultimately flawed social programs? Alcee Hastings sounds like just another race hustler. What happens if Obama wins? Who will Alcee blame for all the troubles in the black community then? Alcee will not be able to pull out his race card on whitey anymore.

Oooooooo (shudders) lets not go down that road.......

22 ArmyWife  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:14pm

re: #19 Jimmah

I don't think is because you are a Brit. Its because you aren't nuanced and probably don't have an Ivy League education to boot.

23 little blessing  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:36pm

So if you are Jewish and happen to "tot a gun and strip moose" does that mean you don't care too much about other "Jews and blacks"?

24 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:41pm

When this impeached thief was elected the House should have exercised its Constitutional power to judge its own elections and refused to seat him.

25 Russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:52:56pm

So.....how did the Democratic Jews" respond?

26 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:53:06pm
27 RubyTuesday  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:53:09pm

Must.not.succumb.to.race.baiting.
/teeth marks on lower lip

28 AZDave  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:53:10pm

Isn't it great. The Dems are just shittin' all over themselves.

29 Kefirah  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:53:31pm

re: #14 Kenneth

unfortunately, i have to respectfully disagree. i know members of my tribe who agree whole-heartedly with what was said.

not to say that i do, of course.

get me kosher moose [complete with shechita, etc.] and icanhazmoozburger.

the more depressing point, for me at least, is that this statement underscores the overall tactics of the democratic party. "lump all culture groups together and have them fight 'the man!'"

what that approach fails to distinguish is that not all culture groups are alike NOR should they be. in promoting "multiculturalism" the democratic party is pushing its own homogeneous agenda. groupthink at its finest.

i won't stand for it.

30 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:54:00pm

re: #20 jcm

In the history of the United States only 7 federal judges have been impeached and removed.

Alcee Hastings is one of those.

The Democrat Party allows him to sit in Congress.


Ah, well, there that is all I need to know. Clearly, this is a man of impecible character and should be listened to.


/

31 DeliLama  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:54:28pm

What a flippin' goddamn racist!

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:54:31pm

re: #25 Russkilitlover

So.....how did the Democratic Jews" respond?

Better question (in my mind)...

So....why are there Democratic Jews?

33 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:54:32pm

Well, it won't matter, once McCain is elected, he will reinstate slavery, just ask Whoopi, she's on board with that.

34 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:54:35pm

Stay Klassy, Alcee!

35 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:54:44pm

Of course there will be massive outrage and demands for him to immediately step down and resign from congress just like they did to Trent Lott right? Right? Oh wait that's right he is a Dem. Never mind. These aren't the politicians you are looking for. Move along. Go watch your videos of FDR before he was president talking to America about the great depression.
On another note the jury is already seated in the Stevens corruption charges in AK. Have we heard any such thing in regards to William "90K in Cool Cash" Jefferson?
Thought so.

36 eon  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:55:09pm

I'm still trying to figure out an impeached and removed former judge can legally hold elected office.

Here in Fairfield Co., OH, in '06 we had a judge who had been removed from the bench for various illegal antics, including insurance fraud. The local Dem party committee was told by the state committee to put him on the ballot for his old job. In fact, they were ordered to.

The local committee had to explain to the nimnuls in Columbus that Judgie couldn't run because he was still serving eight-to-ten in Marion Correctional for six counts of arson for houses he'd bought as "rental properties" and burned to collect insurance on.

Is there anyone with an actual working brain left in the Democratic party at the national level?

/or did I just answer my own question?

cheers

eon

37 Russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:55:13pm

re: #20 jcm

In the history of the United States only 7 federal judges have been impeached and removed.

Alcee Hastings is one of those.

The Democrat Party allows him to sit in Congress.

And the media quotes him as someone worth quoting in news. I didn't think many more disgusting things could be said, until this. He should be run out of town on rails, with an angry mob chasing his ass all the way.

38 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:55:40pm

re: #18 ArmyWife

"toting guns?" Wow - so what does that make me if I am a Jew who also totes guns? Do I need to go get counseling now?

Or, start drinking heavily if BHO wins. I have a feeling we'll hear more from Hastings if he does.

39 mama winger  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:56:42pm

What is scary to me is that the audience apparently laughed and applauded.

40 JeremiahRight  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:57:03pm

Just think, if BHO wins, we could get guys like this appointed to the Supreme Court! Yay!

41 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:57:12pm

re: #29 Kefirah

the more depressing point, for me at least, is that this statement underscores the overall tactics of the democratic party. "lump all culture groups together and have them fight 'the man!'"

"The man"? That's sexist!
/

42 Russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:57:18pm

re: #39 mama winger

What is scary to me is that the audience apparently laughed and applauded.

Oh, dear.

43 yochanan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:57:18pm

this jew ♥ GOV'R PALIN hastins not at all.

and frankly i would feel a lot safer walking in wasla ak than on any street named MLK

44 mama winger  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:57:35pm

And I think Sarah Palin does not hide the fact that she is a huge supporter of Israel and the Jewish people, as are many evangelicals.

45 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:58:00pm

re: #20 jcm

In the history of the United States only 7 federal judges have been impeached and removed.

Alcee Hastings is one of those.

The Democrat Party allows him to sit in Congress.

They've also got the only former klansman, "ladykiller" Kennedy, and so forth. Alcee's in good company.

46 least  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:58:02pm

Alcee was definitely playing to the Democrat base.
Let him (and them) keep playing that card, people will get real tired of it.
*spit*
=======
#7 vbspurs: GMTA! You got there first.

47 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:58:33pm

....well you know, some of my best friends are moose-ish.......

48 Jimmah  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:58:44pm

re: #22 ArmyWife

Trying to tune into the 'nuance' here - I'm thinking that the implication is that having a gun and being into hunting = racist redneck? But...that would be stereotyping an Entire Group Of People, and you can't do that, can you? Oh - wait a minute - unless it's 'evil right-wing people' of course - that's called fighting the good fight.

49 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:58:59pm

This stuff seems to be preaching to the choir. My hope is that those who have not made a decision yet run like hell to McCain after seeing these pathetic displays.

50 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:59:06pm

re: #39 mama winger

What is scary to me is that the audience apparently laughed and applauded.

But then you gotta, dont ya. When in Rome and all that.

Can you imagine a lone dissenter at a dhimmicrat yell fest like this standing up yelling "racist!"?

They would be lynched

51 AZDave  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:59:19pm

re: #18 ArmyWife

"toting guns?" Wow - so what does that make me if I am a Jew who also totes guns? Do I need to go get counseling now?

I don't know about the counseling, but a lot of target practice wouldn't hurt. But wait a second here...silhouettes are usually black... is THAT racist or what?

52 Gorgon Zola  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:59:39pm

Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

I didn't know Alcee's race but how telling that I correctly guessed Afro-American after reading just the first sentence above,,,how telling,,

53 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:59:40pm

re: #33 Desert Dog

Well, it won't matter, once McCain is elected, he will reinstate slavery, just ask Whoopi, she's on board with that.

Whatever happened to Bush legalizing rape?

Cameron Diaz promised!

54 jcm  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 4:59:47pm

re: #37 Russkilitlover

And the media quotes him as someone worth quoting in news. I didn't think many more disgusting things could be said, until this. He should be run out of town on rails, with an angry mob chasing his ass all the way.

Not so fast there. I got my tar bucket all warmed up and a bag of feathers handy. First things First!

55 Viking6  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:00:06pm

re: #19 Jimmah

No you get to join us bitter, gun-toting bible clutchers.

56 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:00:10pm

We DO know that there are no racists in the dem party. That's why so many people of color vote for them. And Jews, too!

57 lawrior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:00:23pm

WOW. Are they just trying to give this to us?

/On second thought, I'm not really that surprised.

58 ArmyWife  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:00:29pm

re: #38 MandyManners

Start?

/just kidding. Really, I am kidding.

59 realwest  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:00:39pm

re: #39 mama winger
Hey {mama} - yeah that's what bothered me too.
That the audience didn't sit there thinking "WTH is he talking about") is, I think, fairly telling.

60 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:00:46pm

It's a dated stereotype, that's all. Rural America is so much more multiracial and multicultural today.

61 Lynn B.  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:01:01pm

re: #39 mama winger

What is scary to me is that the audience apparently laughed and applauded.

Yeah, the really sick part is that this sort of trash plays well with the audiences it's being aimed at.

/spit!

62 realwest  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:01:30pm

Well gotta go get some supper y'all - hope I get the chance to see you all down the road!

63 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:02:09pm

re: #3 GoJeepGo

That card loses value every time it's played

It was the wrong card anyway.

I picked the three of clubs.

64 WrathofG-d  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:02:32pm

ot:

When Jews are involved....war crimes go one way only.

Bombs into Gaza = War Crime
Bombs out of Gaza = ?.

65 troonbop  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:02:58pm

"don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

She probably doesn't - she probably treats them like everybody else without obsessing about their ethnic identity. What a weird concept.

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:03:13pm

Wow, talk about down dings...

Minus: 107

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67 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:03:16pm

I don't think this stuff is the way to woo us gun and Bible clutching folk here in PA. Just a thought.

68 Russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:03:23pm

re: #54 jcm

Not so fast there. I got my tar bucket all warmed up and a bag of feathers handy. First things First!

LOL! You're right! Forgive me for being so reactionary!

69 Wide Right  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:03:52pm

How pathetic and embarrassing. An absolute disgrace. Only serves to remind me of why I jumped off that Democratic ship years ago.

70 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:04:00pm

Somebody needs to remind Jewish Democrats that step one of the Holocaust was disarming German citizens. After that, the rest was a cake-walk.

71 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:04:14pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

To what is this referring? I'm confused.

72 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:04:25pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow, talk about down dings...

Minus: 107

Mind telling us what you're talking about?

73 ArmyWife  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:04:40pm

re: #51 AZDave

Great Dave. Now I am a self-loathing racist redneck Jew.

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:05:42pm

re: #71 livefreeor die

217 few threads downstairs. Super idiocy. About McCain suspending campaign "is a stunt". Blah Blah Blah.

75 lawrior  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:05:46pm

re: #53 JamesTKirk

Whatever happened to Bush legalizing rape?

Cameron Diaz promised!

I'm still waiting for Alec Baldwin to leave the country.

76 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:05:54pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow, talk about down dings...

Minus: 107

Anne-France can sleep easy in Montreal, her record looks like it's gonna stand.

77 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:06:39pm

Jive turkeys like Alcee Hastings are mostly racist. They deserve no respect.

78 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:07:35pm

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

217 few threads downstairs. Super idiocy. About McCain suspending campaign "is a stunt". Blah Blah Blah.

You always got to worry about a new down ding record being set after a big LGF registration.

79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:07:36pm

re: #77 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Did you really just say "Jive turkeys"? Who the hell are you, Fred Sanford?

80 Kefirah  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:08:01pm

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i was going to say royal tenenbaum, but sanford works too...

81 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:08:08pm

re: #77 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Jive turkeys like Alcee Hastings are mostly racist. They deserve no respect.

Sheeeeit.

/"Golly!"

82 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:08:14pm

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you really just say "Jive turkeys"? Who the hell are you, Fred Sanford?

Or channeling the two big guys in the jail in "Trading Places".

83 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:08:48pm

re: #82 livefreeor die

Or channeling the two big guys in the jail in "Trading Places".

One of them only said "Yeah!"

84 Querent  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:08:59pm

re: #14 Kenneth

Thanks Alcee! That's another dozen busloads of pissed of Jewish voters driving over to McCain.

Bring it on!

Jews aren't the only ones on that bus...

(too young to have been a Reagan Dem, but, how do you say, deja vu?)

85 AZDave  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:09:17pm

re: #64 WrathofG-d

ot:

When Jews are involved....war crimes go one way only.

Bombs into Gaza = War Crime
Bombs out of Gaza = ?.

More than likely another missed opportunity to kill a Jew.

86 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:10:25pm

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you really just say "Jive turkeys"? Who the hell are you, Fred Sanford?

"The fires of hell are going to reach up, Alcee Hastings, a pull you down."

-Aunt Esther

87 dgax65  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:10:41pm

Unbelievable. I have a gun so I'm a racist or antisemitic? Is that the theory? Wow - I never knew.

And what did Trent Lott say that was so intolerably racist?

Double standards abound
Amazing what you can get away with when the media is on your side.

88 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:10:43pm

re: #75 lawrior

I'm still waiting for Alec Baldwin to leave the country.

HELL! Where's my free STUFF?

89 Hellfire  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:11:15pm

This dude is a real piece of shit.

90 TS  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:12:07pm

Crazy. Seriously. Mentally ill.

91 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:12:15pm

re: #87 dgax65

Unbelievable. I have a gun so I'm a racist or antisemitic? Is that the theory? Wow - I never knew.

And what did Trent Lott say that was so intolerably racist?

Double standards abound
Amazing what you can get away with when the media is on your side.

That was a reasonable generalization at one time. The KKK came out of particular areas of the US (and rural Canada). But I doubt you'd find great regional differences today.

92 AZDave  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:12:50pm

re: #73 ArmyWife

Great Dave. Now I am a self-loathing racist redneck Jew.

Well, join the club. Do you know where I can find a good deal on .357 hollow-points (or .44 Magnums for that matter)?

93 Paul  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:14:28pm

The sad thing is that Hastings' moronic crap was greeted with laughter and applause. Only an audience of Democrats could that.

94 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:16:05pm

re: #92 AZDave

Well, join the club. Do you know where I can find a good deal on .357 hollow-points (or .44 Magnums for that matter)?

I know I dont. Ammo prices are ridiculous.

95 jopa416  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:18:24pm

I wish some republican would say "If Obama wants to give the right vote back to felons, then he ain't gonna care too much about they do to your family & property"

96 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:18:48pm

re: #87 dgax65

Unbelievable. I have a gun so I'm a racist or antisemitic? Is that the theory? Wow - I never knew.

And what did Trent Lott say that was so intolerably racist?

Double standards abound
Amazing what you can get away with when the media is on your side.


Is it just owning a gun or is "stripping a moose" also necessary?

97 ArmyWife  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:19:06pm

re: #92 AZDave

Do we get a club discount?

In answer to your question, I actually have a friend who is a dealer here (ex-police officer) who keeps his eye out for exactly what I want. Ok, truth is, he looks for exactly what ArmyHusband wants, who collects these things. I have a derringer (because its cute) and a revolver because the grip is small. I have a tiny hand. More than you wanted to know, right?

98 opinionated  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:21:47pm
“anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews......”

Maybe he has something there, I'll ask all the Moose who show up for Kol Nidre.

99 uptight  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:22:13pm

If if wants to liken his own people to animals, that's his responsibility, but he shouldn't expect to get away with lumping Jews into his sick equation without us calling him on his racism.

100 ryukyu  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:22:28pm

I'm sure he is scared of her since most criminals don't like women to have guns. I wonder what the statistics are of white women attacking jews and impeached judges?

101 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:27:33pm

he is a crude lowlife bum.
how embarrassing when vulgar idiots like this are actually elected to office.

102 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:29:34pm

re: #14 Kenneth

Thanks Alcee! That's another dozen busloads of pissed of Jewish voters driving over to McCain.

Bring it on!

Well, it didn't seem to piss off the Jewish voters in his audience.

103 godfrey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:29:51pm

Who are these people?

104 grahamski  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:30:54pm

Alcee, you ignorant slut...

105 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:31:19pm

Tell it Alcee! I'd say the gun-toting gangsters in South Central don't care too much what happens to their fellow black folks.

106 hazzyday  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:34:53pm

Oregon Obama Outrage I call hoax.

107 dave in NC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:36:05pm

re: #91 Moe Katz

That was a reasonable generalization at one time. The KKK came out of particular areas of the US (and rural Canada). But I doubt you'd find great regional differences today.

there was a large klan presence in pennsylvania in the 1970's. maybe not a good generalization.

108 dave in NC  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:36:50pm

re: #92 AZDave
wal-mart. dick's sporting goods.

109 maddogg  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:39:36pm

How do you tell if someone is a moron? Ask who their pick for Potus is. I wonder if there are that many Jews that are going to listen to this level of stupidity and think to themselves "Gee, this Hastings guy is a deep thinker, I should pay close attention to his mindless rantings".

110 Defector01  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:40:03pm

Obviously he believes no blacks or Jews hunt
that's racism right there

111 Pygmalienation  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:40:17pm

Oh right, Big Game Hunting and Racial Oppression just naturally go hand in hand.
/
What an idiot.

112 hazzyday  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:40:53pm

From jdeeripper:

"If Obama was a White man named Brian O'Bama he would be a tall skinny Dennis Kucinich."

Now if McCain were black who would he be? Clarence Thomas? Flavor Flav?

113 dolfan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:42:39pm

re: #8 Noam Sayin'

Race baiting impeached asshole.

more accurate.

114 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:43:38pm

Bear with me, I'm coming up with this on the fly here.

Momma has a Baby. A baby just like any other baby, except that the Baby is sick, real sick. Momma tells the papers, the newspeople. The call goes out, it goes nationwide. The Baby is afflicted by a terrible Virus, which will, so it goes, eventually end that Baby's precious life. Well, Momma needs money, she says, for all the expensive treatments and medications. We all gotta pull together, so we can help this Baby. Momma needs money, send your donations, however large or small. And the whole nation pitches in.

The treatments don't work, we're told, and the Baby gets sicker still. A foundation is set up to receive donations for treatments and medicine and further research and toos to fight this horrible, killing Virus. Years pass. 5, 10, 20, 40 years pass. The Baby is still sick, but is cognizent. Momma, all these years, has offered her unending love and care and support for this Baby, has offered endless, repeated encouragement. Rallying the Baby, as any survivor of any disease knows, the patient has to want to fight this too, this cancer, this spinal disorder, or - in this case - this Virus. The Baby (40 now) fights this Virus, tooth and nail, determined to be rid of its deadly influence, and at the same time helps Momma beg for money, since she's so poor. So Momma and Baby have been tirelessly fighting this virus, with help from the millions of people who have also gave their all, even though they do not even know the Baby.

Momma has been poisoning the Baby these 40 or so years. At first just a little, then with more advanced and expensive poisons with more subtle debilitating effects, mainly effects that made the Baby "feel" sick. She then pocketed the remaining cash and used it to feed her various habits, addictions, indulgences, and to lavish gifts on people as rewards for their help, (some of these people even KNOWING that Momma was poisoning the Baby.) No Virus is killing the Baby. Momma got rich, real rich, and as long as the Baby never finds out, it will still help with the begging, and with the battle against this "Virus".

This Virus is named Republican

This Momma is named Democrat.

This Baby is named Inner-City, and has gotten big.

If the Baby ever finds out what Momma is doing, and if the nation ever finds out what Momma has done, what will happen to Momma?

I wish I were a better writer. The syndrome I describe is real, has been known to happen, and is pure evil. Couples pretend their kid has cancer and get rich. Sometimes they don't even have a kid at all. Most have undoubtedly heard stories of moms doing just what I describe, poisoning the kid mildly for years and getting sympathy and support for a fraudulent act of evil.

This is what Democrats did and do. Its the same on the Economy. Barak Obama doesn't want the economy to get better, he wants it to get worse, and he and all the Democrats have been ACTIVELY making it worse. Its the same on Energy, they create the problem, they convince millions that it was Companies, CEOs, and Republicans that are the problem, not their obstruction. The same with everything the damn Commie rats have done since the nineteen-teens.

If the problems get better, as Booker T. Washington noted, "they lose their grievance, they lose their income, they lose their only means of livelihood." (it seems the internet has been scoured of this quote...now his quotes are being Used in the "fight" by those he would have opposed, these Communists who call themselves Democrat.)

/Taq's bi-annual rant off

115 Palandine  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:44:57pm

Wow. Just wow. Was there no sane person there to ask what he even MEANT by that? It's completely insane.

I "tote" a gun. No moose stripping here in the Show-Me State, but I look forward to learning to hunt as a result of Governor Palin's example. I believe all races are equal and that Jews are my older brothers in the faith and Israel must be defended from those who would destroy her.

Oh, and Mr. Hastings? I and people like me who revere the 2nd Amendment are the not so thin line that keeps those who would commit unjust practices like racism or anti-Semitism at bay. You're welcome.

Now kindly STFU and STFD.

116 dolfan  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:45:17pm

re: #36 eon


the impeachment was overturned eventually by the courts.

117 Palandine  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:49:01pm

re: #43 yochanan

this jew ♥ GOV'R PALIN hastins not at all.

and frankly i would feel a lot safer walking in wasla ak than on any street named MLK

Chris Rock once had a tragically humorous bit about the irony that MLK was a man of peace, but if you live on a street named after MLK, odds are it's in a violent neighborhood.

118 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:49:12pm
“Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.

Get your political kool-aid!

Step right up folks!

What flavor do you want?

119 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:49:38pm

re: #114 Taqiyyotomist

Bear with me, I'm coming up with this on the fly here.

[SNIP]


Can you bear my up-ding?
Loooong rant, but worth the read.

120 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:49:43pm

Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

Sometimes I shudder just to think these are the persons running our country.

Hmmm, bet he doesn't know that a moose can provide meat for a family of four for a year!

121 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:49:55pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where! What? Who?

122 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:52:01pm

Yep, that is just the kind of person I'd like to have representing me in congress. NOT! Do any Jewish liberals have a functioning brain? Or any liberals for that matter?

123 Nancy  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:56:14pm

“Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t doesn't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.

I think if Congress wants to impress us how smart they are, they can start with learning the English language.

124 lobo91  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 5:56:42pm

re: #116 dolfan

the impeachment was overturned eventually by the courts.

No, it wasn't.

Hastings appealed and the judge remanded his case back to the Senate for retrial, but a later Supreme Court decision (Nixon v. United States, ironically) held that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment cases, so that was the end of that.

125 Paul  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:00:14pm
...anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much what they do with Jews and blacks.

I've read that gibberish several times and I can't make any sense of it. Is the impeached federal judge saying that Americans with guns are just as likely to be shooting Jews and blacks as deer and moose? Or is he saying that hunters don't care about the welfare of Jewish and black Americans? Or maybe Sarah Palin, if elected, will shoot Jews and blacks from a helicopter?

Or is the impeached federal judge just a race-baiting moron?

126 stevieray  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:01:08pm

re: #114 Taqiyyotomist

Good stuff. Sums it up nicely.

The syndrome is Munchhausen by Proxy, fwiw.

127 Pyroskank  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:03:35pm

The saddest line is the last:

Hastings added as the room erupted in laughter and applause.

They think this garbage is actually insightful. That it's a really cogent and intelligent point to make. No wonder the intellectual life left of center is near-dead. These stories sadden me. Not because the political left disagrees with me, but because they have so few intelligent points to make. This country deserves better than this from roughly half of its population.

128 Arkay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:12:41pm

Hastings the Impeached is spewing pure bullwinkle.

But you knew that, of course.

I just want a pic of the look on his face when President Palin is inaugurated for her second term.

129 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:17:09pm

re: #120 Nancy

Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

Sometimes I shudder just to think these are the persons running our country.

Hmmm, bet he doesn't know that a moose can provide meat for a family of four for a year!

SIGH- Fellow Jews. . .WAKE the HELL up!

130 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:19:19pm

re: #117 Palandine

Chris Rock once had a tragically humorous bit about the irony that MLK was a man of peace, but if you live on a street named after MLK, odds are it's in a violent neighborhood.

I saw that. . .

131 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:19:50pm

re: #128 Arkay

Hastings the Impeached is spewing pure bullwinkle.

But you knew that, of course.

I just want a pic of the look on his face when President Palin is inaugurated for her second term.


Such sweet dreams. . .:)

132 richard mcenroe  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:26:58pm

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133 Pacificlady  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:31:22pm

She is an idiot.

From a gun-toting Jew in the NW whose husband is also a gun-toting Jew.

134 Arkay  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:35:36pm

Alcee is clearly a member of the National Non-Sequitur Society.

"We may not make sense, but we sure love pizza."

135 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:57:03pm

re: #19 Jimmah

As a Brit, I'm obviously missing the connection between having guns and stripping moose, and persecution of racial/ethnic minorities.

It's a black Democrat thing. You wouldn't understand.

/

136 Wilderstad  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 7:04:21pm

Despicable.

137 Macker  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 7:14:17pm

re: #0 Charles

Race cards! Get yer race cards here!

Here you go Charles!

138 looking closely  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 7:28:44pm

re: #19 Jimmah

As a Brit, I'm obviously missing the connection between having guns and stripping moose, and persecution of racial/ethnic minorities.

Its not your Britishness that is the source of your confusion.

/join the club.

139 looking closely  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 7:30:01pm

re: #64 WrathofG-d

ot:

When Jews are involved....war crimes go one way only.

Bombs into Gaza = War Crime
Bombs out of Gaza = ?.

Jews are the only ones wearing uniforms.
/Therefore everyone else is a civilian.

140 looking closely  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 7:33:38pm

re: #94 OldLineTexan

I know I dont. Ammo prices are ridiculous.


In general a good place to find inexpensive (or shall I say "less expensive") ammo is Wal-Mart.

But with two big military fronts, raw metals prices constantly shooting up, and ammo being heavy (and therefore subject to ever increasing transportation costs), the price of ammo continues to skyrocket.

Its been going up 15% per year for the last 3 years or so, making ammo purchases actually a fairly good (and inflation-resistant) investment.

141 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 7:50:46pm
142 erisldysnomia  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 8:04:41pm
Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

As a gun toting Jew, allow me to say this:

"Mr. Hastings, fuck you, you asshole."

143 erisldysnomia  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 8:07:46pm

re: #19 Jimmah

As a Brit, I'm obviously missing the connection between having guns and stripping moose, and persecution of racial/ethnic minorities.

It's simple and quite logical.

Clearly, white female conservatives who carry guns and strip moose also shoot minorities and skin them alive.

I mean, if you allow your barber to cut your hair, aren't you afraid he'll lop off your limbs?

144 anubis_soundwave  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 8:35:10pm

Ken Hamblin, I think, had this clown's number:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Really, seriously--to all dissatified Afrimericans: if you don't like it here, move to another country. Me, I live here; I'm gonna make the most of it.

/ $0.02

145 AZDave  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 8:39:14pm

re: #51 AZDave

I don't know about the counseling, but a lot of target practice wouldn't hurt. But wait a second here...silhouettes are usually black... is THAT racist or what?

Sorry, folks. The question was really one of my (many and usually) poor attempts at humor. But thanks for the suggestions. And yes, I do have the weapons mentioned (my favorite being the Super Blackhawk 10" .44 Magnum).

146 Scion9  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 8:43:21pm

Well perhaps Sarah Palin doesn't care about what 'they' specifically they do with Jews? Perhaps though she does care about all Americans of all stripes, as well as America's friends and allies? Perahps she does care about people in general above and beyond even their nationality and race, being a good Christian?

What I would be more concerned with personally is Obama and his potentially caring what 'they' specifically do with the Jews. Afterall, a world in need is run by the Jews greed, as his Reverend, mentor and spiritual advisor of twenty years famously pointed out to his congregation. The Church that is clearly close to the center of Sen. Obama's moral compass did afterall publish and endorsed the Hamas Charter.

I can promise you that Hamas absolutely does care what happens to the Jews. Apparently so too does Obama's mentor and spiritual advisor.

147 lostlakehiker  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 8:58:07pm

With friends like Alcee, Obama doesn't need enemies. Mr. "I rule for the mob what paid me" Judge Hastings! Good grief. Ayers the convicted terrorist. Hastings the convicted-by-the-Senate bribe taker. Jeremiah the deliverer of Jeremiads against America. You couldn't make this stuff up. You don't have to. There it is.

But the New York Times makes stuff up. Dan Rather's CBS makes stuff up. They have to. It isn't there.

148 lostlakehiker  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 9:10:08pm

re: #125 Paul

...anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much what they do with Jews and blacks.

I've read that gibberish several times and I can't make any sense of it. Is the impeached federal judge saying that Americans with guns are just as likely to be shooting Jews and blacks as deer and moose? Or is he saying that hunters don't care about the welfare of Jewish and black Americans? Or maybe Sarah Palin, if elected, will shoot Jews and blacks from a helicopter?

Or is the impeached federal judge just a race-baiting moron?


I'll try to read his sorry mind.

Any Republican who would commit the very, very serious offense of carrying a gun and shooting and skinning a moose would surely not flinch at what Republicans/whites [is there a difference] deem lesser crimes such as persecuting minorities.

And the audience laughs, because they just know that Republicans are fully aware of the awful grotesque evil of hunting, and do it anyway, for the guilty pleasure of sinning. How could Republicans not know this? After all, everyone everywhere explains every day how awful and evil guns and hunting are. The only, only thing that stands between civilization and collapse, of course, is that precious slim reed: the unavailability of guns.

Maybe in Mr. Hastings' district, that's how it looks to him. He ought to know his district better than I. But watch and see. As guns become available for self defense in DC, (demographically similar) the place will simmer down, not blow up. Arm the citizenry, and there will be peace. Arm only the criminals, and, well, guess what?

149 jaxgtr  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 9:42:29pm

Consider the idiots that keep electing him and this is no surprise.

150 littleben  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 10:11:09pm

Alcee; Listen up here; Its not the ones with the guns who strip moose we big city Jews are afraid of; its the ones with guns that go for the two legged creatures and they strip.... cars,houses,stores etc

151 kyleb  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 11:22:35pm

I'm so sick of the term "bigotry" being applied only to race issues and not to hateful rants like this.

152 YMedad  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 12:05:40am

Gee, I'm sure moose is kosher but non-Jews don't have to eat it that way, so why is stripping moose wrong? Worse is voting for a wrong candidate.

153 MJBrutus  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 1:53:51am

Give this man a louder microphone, please!

Obama's supporters and associates are our best friends. However hard McCain to lose this race, people like Alcee, Jeremiah and the other zoo critters who support Hussein are not going to let him.

154 boocat  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 6:46:34am

What an ass.

155 Land Shark  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 6:50:32am

This is an offensive statement by the idiot Hastings. He's basically calling hunters racists who are just as likely to kill Jews and Blacks as they would a moose. Well, while I'm not a hunter I happen to know a few, and they sure as hell aren't racists, and one of them is a Jew! What an ignorant A-hole!

Of course the mainstream media will give this racist piece of crap a pass like they always do with leftys.

156 J'accuzzi  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 6:54:28am

Wiki! Wow! You Google this guy and it just goes on and on! I really like Bill's pardon on his last day as Pres for the closed mouth buddy of AH who went to prison rather than rat on "the judge".

157 Land Shark  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 7:04:06am

re: #19 Jimmah

It's simple, really. In Libtard Whackedoutland gun owners and members of the NRA like me are Klansmen who spend their nights hunting down Jews and lynching Blacks. Many of those people really seem to believe that claptrap.

My wife is a social worker and thus has many liberal friends. At a party we went to a few months ago one of them I'd known for a while was going on and on about how only ignorant racist whites wanted to own guns and join the NRA. Well, I then just walked over to her and showed her my NRA member card, and said "Well, do you think I'm a racist now? Who's the ignorant one now?" Her face went blank and she stuttered and quite didn't know what to say as I walked away with a very smug smile. I haven't seen her since.

158 Yashmak  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 7:21:04am

Yes. Soccer moms are a threat to Jews & blacks. Hah.

Hastings is the perfect example of the racial hatred that lays just under the skein of words like 'tolerance' and 'multi-culturalism' the left likes to bandy about.

159 captainzot  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 7:57:05am

Thank you Alcee, and a secondary thank you to the ghetto culture in the US that churns out cretins like this. I love it when they let fools like him speak in public. It reminds everyone who isn't currently consumed with some sort of political dementia how ridiculous is the current democrat party.

I have such a hard time understanding how a group of people can listen to someone say something like this, half joke or not, and not get red in the face from embarrassment. The left has no shame.

160 leboaz  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 8:41:35am

His comments are ridiculous. Period. But take a little time to read the replies. Who are these morons?
When Israel's gone, it'll be too late to say 'I told you so.' And they'll blame it on Bush.

161 landline  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 9:18:42am

"...Sarah Palin, if elected, will shoot Jews and blacks from a helicopter...re: #125 Paul

What! Well, I certainly can't support a candidate who would do that.

Those Non-denominational white Christians from Alaska are the real terrorists!

162 Thunderbottom  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 9:36:14am

re: #70 unreconstructed rebel

Somebody needs to remind Jewish Democrats that step one of the Holocaust was disarming German citizens. After that, the rest was a cake-walk.

...Aaaannnd members of the Sturmabteilung (the Brown Shirts) were issued arms and "deputized" to serve as "auxiliary police forces". Will we see the same thing with this "national civilian defense corps" that B-HO has advocated?

163 wltzacrsstxs  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 9:39:24am

Imagine that. CNN closed comments with only one comment that is not pro-obama showing. Making it impossible to set the facts straight with the idiots who lap up the pablum.

164 Just sayin...  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 9:44:07am

If Alcee Hastings is the best that the Congressional Black Caucus can do, it's time for them to close up shop and go home. What an embarrassment to blacks everywhere. The real question in all of this is:

"Where are the thoughtful black leaders in condemning this blatant racism?"

We asked the same from Muslims when many of their own turned evil and turned their energies towards destroying civilization. Now it's time for us to ask the same question of American Blacks. Will you condemn this evil?

165 RobCon  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 12:38:16pm

In 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering.
Hat Tip: Winki

'Nuff said

166 RobCon  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 12:40:22pm

He is only the sixth federal judge to be impeached and removed from office in American history. Therefore, let's make him a congressman.
Classic lib Democrat. Of course, none of this is revealed in the media.

167 TimO  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 5:04:05pm

I have to grudgingly admit that I live in Alcee's district here in Florida.

But through some very devious gerrymandering, his district winds through this primarily Republican county in such a way that the majority of the voters in it are in the minority areas of Fort Pierce and Belle Glade, some of the worst areas for drugs and murder. And every election they sweep him right back into office.

Here's a map: [Link: nationalatlas.gov...]

Just like Marion Barry in D.C., we can't get rid of him....


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