Of course his supporters are commies- they know their own when they see it.

Those aren't the despots, tyrants, and dictators I knew

Barry's Marxist through an through.
From Mama to Wright it's all Marxist.

The fellow travelers get it and are flocking to the red diaper doper baby.

Unrepentant commies strike again. Uncomfortably close to power they are.

And you shall know him by the company he keeps...

re: #1 Sharmuta

GMTA!

Comrades! Time to get under the Glorious People's Long March Bus of the 4th of November!

I think Charles is posting all that stuff to make him look bad, then "discovering it".

Indeed. And we know that Obama himself thinks that the Chinese government should be our example, but what kind of example are they setting when they purposefully bury stories like this because it might upset their Potemkin vision for the Olympic games.

And they're prepared to offer up news before it happens, like reporting on China's space mission that hadn't even left the pad.

It's no wonder that Obama's supporters are flocking to Communists, Marxists, Stalinists, and socialists galore, when Obama himself touts the very regimes that are responsible for so much misery around the world.

re: #8 Peacekeeper

I think Charles is posting all that stuff to make him look bad, then "discovering it".

Charles didn't find the stuff.

I am listening to a news conference with WH spoke person Perino and it seems like the White House and McCain are not entirely on the same page? McCain is saying the bail out is dying and the WH says they are inching closer?

What do Obama and Osama have in common?

They both have friends who bombed the pentagon

I pray that the Democratic Party is shown the door to a decades long howling political wilderness this November, Amen.

What? Nothing about Felix Dzerzhinsky? I would have thought that the commies supporting him would have extensive quotes from Felix.

I see msnbc is running a poll on the debate this friday. Im all for a postponement until this bail out plan is finished.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

I think the reason why this isn't considered news is (a) the MSM don't see these people as evil but as newsmakers, hence good, and (b) the young'uns in the US haven't been taught that these people committed or taught unspeakable evil.

so it's up to us to do it. Thank for the venue, Charles.

re: #11 Nevergiveup

I am listening to a news conference with WH spoke person Perino and it seems like the White House and McCain are not entirely on the same page? McCain is saying the bail out is dying and the WH says they are inching closer?

I have a hard time imagining McCain saying something like that.

re: #12 Shug

Hey Shug, You from Sac?

Good job, Mr. Gomez in publishing this information. On of the keys to beating Obama is to let people know who Obama is and who he associates with. This report helps to show the true face of his base.

re: #13 Ojoe

I pray that the Democratic Party is shown the door to a decades long howling political wilderness this November, Amen.

When two or more are gathered ...

I hope you all have a light traveling bag packed and comfortable shoes by the door. When The One is inaugurated and Civilian Security Force is dressed in the spiffy new starched Brown Shirts. We are all invited to Joy Camp to get our minds right and have only goodthink.

re: #18 turn

New Fallujah

No surprises here. At least not to people of my generation who still recognize Marxism when we hear it.

Charles, how about a thread on that lovely picture of Obama gleefully signing copies of the Rolling Stone yesterday down in Florida while our economy is in meltdown? (see the end of the previous thread if no one has yet sent the link.)

I was going to ask about Che, but I see that he's covered as well.

Not that Husseinovich's camp thinks it cricket to smear a candidate by mentioning his associations. (Unless said candidate is Gov. Palin, in which case any smear, fabricated or not, is good.)

re: #14 Perplexed

What? Nothing about Felix Dzerzhinsky? I would have thought that the commies supporting him would have extensive quotes from Felix.

Dzerzhinsky may be the least known evil person of the 20th century. Although the Spy Museum in D.C. (highly recommended) has a massive statue of him in the entryway.

Crappers that may be the wrong link.

The case can be made that Barry is both well read (Marx, Alinsky, et al) and well, red.

re: #11 Nevergiveup

I am listening to a news conference with WH spoke person Perino and it seems like the White House and McCain are not entirely on the same page? McCain is saying the bail out is dying and the WH says they are inching closer?

No, that was the way the reporter was trying to push the story. The reporter was the one trying to get her to say McCain and Bush are not on the same page. Things are very fluid and they are trying to paint McCain in their way. The reporter got the talking points from Axelrod this morning.

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to...oh...you're Karl Marx? Never mind..."

re: #22 Shug

New Fallujah

Auburn Hills?

re: #15 Scorch

I see msnbc is running a poll on the debate this friday. Im all for a postponement until this bail out plan is finished.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

So I voted "yes" and discovered I am outnumbered 2:1
Vapid platitudes to the masses ("debates") are far preferable to msnbc fans.

OT

Congratulations Charles your blog is sited on page 6 of the Sept. 29th issue of Bill Kristol's National Review magazine.

The Fidel Castro-quoter gushes:

Most foreign heads of state are men of colour, how refreshing would it be to send a man of colour as our representative to represent us?

I love this line. I've heard a variation of it, "Obama will be able to negotiate effectively with Middle Eastern heads of state, because he looks more like them." If and when you hear this from some earnest liberal, ask whether it doesn't mean that a hypothetical President Obama wouldn't have MORE trouble negotiating with European heads of state, since he'll look "less like them".

When Lefty stammers, why no, of course not, you go on to ask; so you're saying that white heads of state are open-minded, but "of color" heads of state are bigots? Watch the libs tie themselves in knots. 'S fun!

The difference between Communism and Obama's plan for America is that, under Communism, all people live in poverty, not just a few. Whereas under Obama's America...

....oh wait, there is no difference, nevermind.

The good news is they are'nt teaching Creationism to little kids..........

re: #22 Shug

Anywhere near Rancho Cambodia?

re: #8 Peacekeeper

I think Charles is posting all that stuff to make him look bad, then "discovering it".

I know Peacekeeper is horsing around, but I downdinged him anyway. Ha!

re: #29 The Other Les

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to...oh...you're Karl Marx? Never mind..."

Have you ever read Paul Johnson's book "Intellectuals?" The chapter on Marx is priceless. Fun fact: the Marx family maid worked for them for decades and was never paid. Not one cent. Also, Marx knocked her up and refused to acknowledge paternity.

re: #14 Perplexed

What? Nothing about Felix Dzerzhinsky? I would have thought that the commies supporting him would have extensive quotes from Felix.

Too hard to pronounce. Otherwise he'd be there too.

re: #27 JSK1121

The case can be made that Barry is both well read (Marx, Alinsky, et al) and well, red.

I wouldn't be surprised. His father was red, his friends are red. Ergo...

This is not surprising. In fact, I blogged about Obama's hidden Marxist roots last night: [Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...] More interesting details via the latest edition of Commentary Magazine.

re: #12 Shug

What do Obama and Osama have in common?

They both have friends who bombed the pentagon

Both Obama and McCain hang around Marxists.
Obama on the living room sofa.
McCain from the ceiling.

re: #8 Peacekeeper

I think Charles is posting all that stuff to make him look bad, then "discovering it".

Rove, is that you? You forgot yer meds.

re: #9 lawhawk

Which makes sense that he thinks the Chinese government should be his example. After all, it doesn't operate all that differently than Cook County and Chicago government. Cloak and dagger politics, no transparency, rigged elections, cronyism, nepotism, corruption.

There is no choice there, just he who somebody sent. And Obama was sent by somebody 'cause, we don't want nobody that nobody sent.

How about Lavrenty Beria as a role model for US internal security issues?

Exactly. I was taught in college that Communism and its heroes were good and wholesome, while America was evil and Imperialistic. America was the villain in the Cold War; we made the Soviets do what they did.

re: #16 vxbush

I think the reason why this isn't considered news is (a) the MSM don't see these people as evil but as newsmakers, hence good, and (b) the young'uns in the US haven't been taught that these people committed or taught unspeakable evil.

so it's up to us to do it. Thank for the venue, Charles.

We should have some of our own Marx quotes as well.
I'll start
"One day, I shot an elephant in my pajamas.
What he was doing in my pajamas, I'll never know."

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside a dog, it is too dark to read"

re: #22 Shug

New Fallujah

Del-Ray?

re: #41 Bogotana

This is not surprising. In fact, I blogged about Obama's hidden Marxist roots last night: [Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...] More interesting details via the latest edition of Commentary Magazine.

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http://neoconlatina.blogspot.com/ works fine.

re: #45 FloridaAnole

Pretty bloodthirsty if I remember correctly.

re: #45 FloridaAnole

How about Lavrenty Beria as a role model for US internal security issues?

I think the 0 has that one planned out. All of us who donated to the McCain campaign, head for the hills when the 0 is elected.
/

re: #38 doppelganglander

Have you ever read Paul Johnson's book "Intellectuals?" The chapter on Marx is priceless. Fun fact: the Marx family maid worked for them for decades and was never paid. Not one cent. Also, Marx knocked her up and refused to acknowledge paternity.

Yes.

I thought the bit about Bertholt Brecht was priceless. Austrian passport, West German publisher, East German theater company, and a Swiss bank account. And apparently he invented the Grunge look long before anyone from Seattle ever heard of it.

re: #49 jwb7605

http://neoconlatina.blogspot.com/ works fine.

make that neoconlatina.blogspot.com/

re: #46 Pyrocles

Exactly. I was taught in college that Communism and its heroes were good and wholesome, while America was evil and Imperialistic. America was the villain in the Cold War; we made the Soviets do what they did.

I heard that in school here in the States. But I already knew. I'd met people who'd been in the Gulags and escaped the Soviet Union.

re: #30 JSK1121

Auburn Hills?

Close.

The R.O.

re: #46 Pyrocles

Exactly. I was taught in college that Communism and its heroes were good and wholesome, while America was evil and Imperialistic. America was the villain in the Cold War; we made the Soviets do what they did.

Our institutions of lower learning at work.

We should fire all the Marxists professors and replace them with professors from Poland, Ukraine, and Georgia.

I honestly wonder if that web site will be a subject of study by historians ... say, 50 years from now.

Having a BA in history from before the field became Revisionist and politicized, I suspect it will be pertinant.

The people screaming "Police State" now are the same people who will be forcing people into "re-education camps" if they get into power.

Its for their own good though.

Third World Dictators for Barack Obama !

The ideas that seduced millions of people over the past century into supporting Communism are still as alive as ever, the only thing that has changed is the word "communism" has been replaced with the term "social justice".

re: #38 doppelganglander

Have you ever read Paul Johnson's book "Intellectuals?" The chapter on Marx is priceless. Fun fact: the Marx family maid worked for them for decades and was never paid. Not one cent. Also, Marx knocked her up and refused to acknowledge paternity.

An eye-opening book that was...

re: #55 Shug

Close.

The R.O.

R.O.?

re: #38 doppelganglander

Also, Marx knocked her [the maid] up

I guess he took that "... to each according to his needs" stuff quite literally.

re: #55 Shug

Close.

The R.O.

Ah, Royal Oak.

Yupre: #50 Perplexed

Pretty bloodthirsty if I remember correctly.

Yup - you do indeed. He's the one that made the Lubyanka Moscow's #1 Involuntary Tourist Attraction.

Cool Apache Video from Afghanistan.

R_ _ _ L O_K

/Hangman

re: #64 Honorary Yooper

Ah, Royal Oak.

As an Ohioan, I hope you don't mind when I say Muck Fichigan.

re: #15 Scorch

I see msnbc is running a poll on the debate this friday. Im all for a postponement until this bail out plan is finished.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Fascinating! 36% think it should be postponed on website that is 99% left of left.

re: #42 jcm

Both Obama and McCain hang around Marxists.
Obama on the living room sofa.
McCain from the ceiling.

Indeed. They've both been around Commies for long periods of time. The reason to vote for McCain is that he drew the right lessons and conclusions from those experiences.

That quite a scary-looking bunch of people. The supporters, I mean.

Including the one that looks like a plant.

re: #4 ORD neighbor

Unrepentant commies strike again. Uncomfortably close to power they are.

They only have to win once.

re: #65 FloridaAnole

Wonder if Charles has a DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON button on his servers?

//tin foil hat off.

I feel sorry for the University of Mississippi. I mean Alabama has roll tide roll, with out the debate what does Mississippi have? And I am already ducking and covering.

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

The people screaming "Police State" now are the same people who will be forcing people into "re-education camps" if they get into power.

Its for their own good though.

Fascists are usually the ones who first scream about how oppressive the current regime is, never mind all their accusations are baseless. It's just a way to get into power. And then when they get into power, they do far more than what they accused the previous regime of doing.

We need a bigger bus...some of these Commies are not small and portable like Kim Jong-il. Why, he could be in Dinnerjacket's suitcase right now, surviving on toothpaste and Wheatabix crumbs...

re: #21 jcm

I hope you all have a light traveling bag packed and comfortable shoes by the door. When The One is inaugurated and Civilian Security Force is dressed in the spiffy new starched Brown Shirts. We are all invited to Joy Camp to get our minds right and have only goodthink.

What's up with that, anyway? I mean, I know what Husseinovich said (if it weren't for Biden, he'd be the primary windbag in this campaign), and I know what it sounds like, but brown-shirts are the kind of thing you'd get from someone who thinks big. Husseinovich's history is, incompetent community organizer, who by definition makes small plans, and his nature is, incompetent idiot, who isn't capable of holding big plans in his head.

Was he thinking of something like a Peace Corps to send to the gun-clingers? Seriously, the man doesn't seem big enough for beer-hall politics.

re: #74 Nevergiveup

I feel sorry for the University of Mississippi. I mean Alabama has roll tide roll, with out the debate what does Mississippi have? And I am already ducking and covering.

Excuse me? ? ?
Plus they're out around 6 million dollars.

re: #52 The Other Les

Yes.

I thought the bit about Bertholt Brecht was priceless. Austrian passport, West German publisher, East German theater company, and a Swiss bank account. And apparently he invented the Grunge look long before anyone from Seattle ever heard of it.

I also enjoyed (if that's the right word for it) the chapter on Rousseau. I have long felt that his lousy philosophy has done massive damage to the Western world, nearly as much as Communism. I recently gave my niece a copy -- she's a teacher and therefore usually votes Democrat, but she's also a classical scholar and appreciates the great works of Western civilization. In fact, I should order that book by the case and just give it out to everyone I know.

Alan Marlow's Marx quote: Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people." -- Karl Marx

Clinging to their religion?

re: #68 JSK1121

As an Ohioan, I hope you don't mind when I say Muck Fichigan.

As long as it's directed solely at the UofM in AA*. Otherwise, as an ex-pat Michigander, the only good thing in Ohio is Cedar Point.

/*AA stands for Arrogant Assholes.
//Go Green, Go White!

What? No black people quoted?

Effen elitist racists.

re: #77 amphibian

Seriously, the man doesn't seem big enough for beer-hall politics.

Yeah, he's a putz without a putsch.

From the Leon Trotsky link above

I'm sick of old people.
By Bryce Hamilton - Feb 8th, 2008 at 8:15 pm EST

Why does it seem that every single person I know over the age of 30 believes I'm a "naieve teenager that doesn't really know what politics is all about?"

Over 30 is old?

re: #78 redstateredneck

Excuse me? ? ?
Plus they're out around 6 million dollars.

Do you have any idea how many aluminum cans that is?

re: #78 redstateredneck

Excuse me? ? ?
Plus they're out around 6 million dollars.

So?

re: #76 OldLineTexan

We need a bigger bus...some of these Commies are not small and portable like Kim Jong-il. Why, he could be in Dinnerjacket's suitcase right now, surviving on toothpaste and Wheatabix crumbs...

With this many Commies a bus won't do; let's throw them under an M1A2, preferably under the tracks.

re: #82 Ben Hur

What? No black people quoted?

Effen elitist racists.

So what do you want? A quote from Mugabe? Perhaps a quote from an unrepentant cannibal Idi Amin?

I say whoever it was who suggested that Obama debate Biden this Friday was a genius. I mean, they do seem to have a few policy differences. It would also be the most entertaining debate so far in our political history, no?

re: #76 OldLineTexan

We need a bigger bus...some of these Commies are not small and portable like Kim Jong-il. Why, he could be in Dinnerjacket's suitcase right now, surviving on toothpaste and Wheatabix crumbs...

Don't forget arugula.

Raines, Obama and the Media

Mr. Johnson and Mr. Raines aren't the only figures in the subprime mortgage scandal to be connected to the Obama campaign. Jamie Gorelick, rumored to be an attorney general candidate in an Obama administration, was vice chairman of Fannie Mae from 1997 to 2003. Penny Pritzker, Mr. Obama's national finance chairman, has been described as "the Michael Milken of the subprime mortage crisis" for her pioneering of the packaging of bad loans with good ones at her now defunct Superior bank in suburban Chicago.

"The financial engineering that created the financial meltdown was developed by the Pritzkers and Ernst and Young, working with Merrill Lynch to sell bonds securitized by sub-prime mortgages," said Timothy Anderson, a retired bank consultant.

These connections -- and Mr. Raines' own words -- contradict the notion he was the peripheral figure to the Obama campaign Mr. Dobbs, Mr. Kurtz and Ms. Tumulty would like you to believe.

Obama is up to his ears in this mess.

re: #85 redstateredneck

Do you have any idea how many aluminum cans that is?

60 million, but just make sure you only return them at $25 per store per visit.

Pakistani President Tells Sarah Palin "You're Gorgeous"

I guess he didn't have anything better to say to the lady who could be forced to bomb the hell out of him in the future.

Why is this not a surprise. The old "takes one to know one" schoolyard taunt is applicable here. I wonder what's going to happen to these people when the Obamessiah loses in November...

"You have the brain of a four-year old, and I bet he was glad to get rid of it."
- Marx

re: #81 Honorary Yooper

As long as it's directed solely at the UofM in AA*. Otherwise, as an ex-pat Michigander, the only good thing in Ohio is Cedar Point.

/*AA stands for Arrogant Assholes.
//Go Green, Go White!

My statement refers to the Urine and Blue only, no beef with the Spartans. Cedar Point isn't the only good thing in Ohio, but it is the best thing.

re: #77 amphibian

Was he thinking of something like a Peace Corps to send to the gun-clingers?

My interpretation: He really didn't know what the hell he was saying. He get all warmed up on the "volunteerism" thing (in which, curiously, he included the Foreign Service, who, um, aren't "volunteers" but rather career professionals); got a little off-script; and made hopey-changey noises about "a civilian security force", with no clear idea what he meant by it.

I don't think he has some plan for Obama Brown Shirts, and it would flop instantly if he tried it. But the line does offer some insight into his political reflexes... which are disturbing.

re: #86 MandyManners

So?

So it's six million dollars!

OT: Sandman needs more love.

-118.

re: #33 Occasional Reader

Because Arabs love Blacks so much.

re: #91 Kenneth

Raines, Obama and the Media

Obama is up to his ears in this mess.

uh uh...don't talk about the ears

Woops -- the link I tried to post -- "Obama's Hidden Marxist Roots -- in 41 is not working. Anyway, here it is:
[Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...]

Hope it works this time. My post draws upon new details from a recent piece published in Commentary Magazine -- highly recommended.

re: #84 Shug

From the Leon Trotsky link above

I'm sick of old people.
By Bryce Hamilton - Feb 8th, 2008 at 8:15 pm EST

Over 30 is old?

Sounds like some uppity shit head needs to get rousted from Mom's basement

re: #97 Occasional Reader

He get all warmed up

Gah.

The MSM will be all over this tonight!.../
I feel dirty just tiping that!

A Democratic PAC is putting out an attack ad on McCain's cancer. Classy.

Isn't Obama the one hesitant to release his medical records?

re: #96 JSK1121

My statement refers to the Urine and Blue only, no beef with the Spartans. Cedar Point isn't the only good thing in Ohio, but it is the best thing.

Heh. Yep, the Unamazing Blue.

So, who was it that beat the Urine and Blue last year? Oh yeah, Appalachian State. :-)

/Then I take back my comment about Ohio, and yes, Cedar Point is one of the best things in the state.

re: #88 Perplexed

So what do you want? A quote from Mugabe? Perhaps a quote from an unrepentant cannibal Idi Amin?

None are quoting Barack.

(see Hitchens)

re: #101 Ben Hur

Because Arabs love Blacks so much.

And Obama can so easily pass for Persian.

/huh?

re: #53 jwb7605

Thanks for catching that!

re: #91 Kenneth

I stopped reading at "Jamie Gorelick, attorney general candidate." I literally felt a huge wave of nausea when I read that. Dear God, that man needs to be stopped.

re: #42 jcm

Both Obama and McCain hang around Marxists.
Obama on the living room sofa.
McCain from the ceiling.

Harsh, but to the point.

The pity is that many people equate communism with the former Soviet Union and the Cold War.
Now thats gone, the conditions of living under communist rule are conveniently forgotten - as is the literature about the GULAG.

Any communists these people meet in real life are well hidden under sheeps clothings - they simply have no idea what communism means.
China - well, its a case of subliminal racism, I think: China is far a way, the people don't look 'like us', so its either some quaint cultural thingie, or something which 'natives' do ... can't happen here ...

Lousy with communists? Really?

/

re: #88 Perplexed

So what do you want? A quote from Mugabe? Perhaps a quote from an unrepentant cannibal Idi Amin?

As long as it's not a recipe.

re: #109 Ben Hur

None are quoting Barack.

(see Hitchens)

They quote him all the time. Have you ever talked to these people? Every other word is "uh".

re: #93 Rednek

Pakistani President Tells Sarah Palin "You're Gorgeous"

I guess he didn't have anything better to say to the lady who could be forced to bomb the hell out of him in the future.

Hey ... no reason not to use this. If showing a little leg will turn the Pakistani President against the Taliban, maybe John McCain should do it, too.

re: #61 scottishbuzzsaw

I am adding that to my list.

Here is a my.Obamaton who claims to be "gathering evidence" to give to a federal prosecutor he knows so that we can all be carted off to jail.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep my own file and periodically share here. And in the midst of the revenge served cold, I'm going to heat the dish all of a sudden with a "holy shit" dump to a federal prosecutor I know.

So, Mister Republican, keep up with the character assassinations. Do your best. Hit us below the belt.

And we'll jail your ass, liars. Yes, jail -- that's what Nixon deserved, and that is where you're going if you put that crap into the public domain like you already have and will tomorrow.

Obamatons keeping revenge files on political enemies and then deriding Nixon! What a hoot!

Change!

re: #107 arethusa

A Democratic PAC is putting out an attack ad on McCain's cancer. Classy.

Isn't Obama the one hesitant to release his medical records?

They must be stupid to try that. It makes them look like assholes while reaffirming to most people the courage and determination of McCain.

re: #115 MandyManners

He was into eating his victims fresh with no seasoning.

re: #74 Nevergiveup

I feel sorry for the University of Mississippi. I mean Alabama has roll tide roll, with out the debate what does Mississippi have? And I am already ducking and covering.

Obviously, you've never been to The Grove on game day.

re: #115 MandyManners

As long as it's not a recipe.

Thats not a constitution, ITS A COOKBOOK!

re: #107 arethusa

A Democratic PAC is putting out an attack ad on McCain's cancer. Classy.

Isn't Obama the one hesitant to release his medical records?

I wouldn't call it "hesitant." I would call it a flat out refusal to produce his medical records. Somehow, a one page doctor's note of the sort one might turn it to excuse a school absence really just isn't the same to my mind. Not for someone who wants to be president at any rate.

I wonder just what it is he is hiding?

re: #100 karmic_inquisitor

OT: Sandman needs more love.

-118.

I already down-dinged yesterday. Sorry.

What was the final score for AnneFrance (or whatever her name was?)

re: #97 Occasional Reader

My interpretation: He really didn't know what the hell he was saying. He get all warmed up on the "volunteerism" thing (in which, curiously, he included the Foreign Service, who, um, aren't "volunteers" but rather career professionals); got a little off-script; and made hopey-changey noises about "a civilian security force", with no clear idea what he meant by it.

I don't think he has some plan for Obama Brown Shirts, and it would flop instantly if he tried it. But the line does offer some insight into his political reflexes... which are disturbing.

I think he knew exactly what he wanted but had some trouble in the delivery

Reposting this (modified) from an earlier DT:

Does anyone know what Obama was (or would have been) talking about here:

Now, in the last few days, my opponent has decided to start talking tough about CEO pay. Hes suddenly a hard-charging populist. And thats all well and good. But I sure wish he was talking the same way over a year ago, when I introduced a bill that wouldve helped stop the multi-million-dollar bonus packages that CEOs grab on their way out the door. Because he opposed that idea.

Really? He's obviously referring to S.1181 - Shareholder Vote on Executive Compensation Act, which, according to the CRS, would have done the following:

Amends the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 to require a proxy, consent, or authorization for a shareholder meeting occurring on or after January 1, 2009, to permit a separate shareholder vote to approve executive compensation.

States that such shareholder vote shall not be binding on the board of directors, nor construed: (1) as overruling a board decision; (2) to create or imply additional fiduciary duty by such board; and (3) to restrict or limit shareholder ability to make proposals for inclusion in proxy materials related to executive compensation.

Requires proxy solicitation material for a shareholder meeting occurring on or after January 1, 2009, concerning disposition of substantially all of an issuer's assets, to disclose compensation agreements or understandings with the principal executive officers of either the issuer or acquiring issuer regarding any type of (golden parachute) compensation which: (1) relates to such disposition; and (2) has not been subject to a shareholder vote.

Provides that proxy solicitation material containing such executive compensation disclosures shall require a separate shareholder vote to approve such agreements or understandings.

States that such shareholder vote shall not be binding on the board of directors, nor construed: (1) as overruling a board decision; (2) to create or imply additional fiduciary duty by such board; and (3) to constrain shareholder ability to make proposals for inclusion in proxy materials related to executive compensation.

So his bill would have required a NON-BINDING shareholder vote on golden parachute compensation agreements related to disposition of substantially all of a company's assets (but not in other cases and only after 1/1/09). Gee, yeah, that would have gone a long way toward stopping those multi-million dollar bonus packages. Not.

BTW, I find no reference (but please correct me if I'm wrong) that McCain "opposed the idea." He didn't sponsor the bill, true. Neither did 91 other senators.

Regarding people quoting some of the hated figures of the 20th century; just because you quote someone doesn't mean you identify with everything they said and did. For example, quoting Karl Marx.....he personally was somewhat of a befuddled philosopher who was perpetually broke. However if you actually read some of his direct work, it is inspired. His theories were tested and corrupted by some others on the same list shown. For example

Anyone who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without feminine upheaval. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex, the ugly ones included.

- Karl Marx

re: #107 arethusa

A Democratic PAC is putting out an attack ad on McCain's cancer. Classy.

Isn't Obama the one hesitant to release his medical records?

Frigging last straw.

re: #99 redstateredneck

So it's six million dollars!

Considering what's at stake for the economy,...

A mother's sorrow:

Marx's unwillingness to pursue a career seems to have been the main reason why his family was unsympathetic to his pleas for handouts. His mother not only refused to pay his debts, believing he would then simply contract more, but eventually cut him off completely. Thereafter their relations were minimal. She is credited with the bitter wish that 'Karl would accumulate capital instead of just writing about it.'

from Intellectuals by Paul Johnson ~ Karl Marx: 'Howling Gigantic Curses'

re: #84 Shug

I resemble that remark!

re: #125 Dianna

Somewhere in the 400s according to a post someone put up yesterday.

Can we get Sandman there? Yes! We! Can!

We are the downdingers we have been waiting for!

re: #84 Shug

By Bryce Hamilton - Feb 8th, 2008 at 8:15 pm EST

Why does it seem that every single person I know over the age of 30 believes I'm a "naieve teenager that doesn't really know what politics is all about?"
By Bryce Hamilton - Feb 8th, 2008 at 8:15 pm EST

I don't know who Bryce Hamilton is, but my guess is that he's naieve teenager that doesn't really know what politics is all about.

re: #119 karmic_inquisitor

Here is a my.Obamaton who claims to be "gathering evidence" to give to a federal prosecutor he knows so that we can all be carted off to jail.

Obamatons keeping revenge files on political enemies and then deriding Nixon! What a hoot!

Change!

Yup, like Nixon, minus the principles and accomplishments.

re: #113 yma o hyd

Harsh, but to the point.

The pity is that many people equate communism with the former Soviet Union and the Cold War.
Now thats gone, the conditions of living under communist rule are conveniently forgotten - as is the literature about the GULAG.

Any
communists these people meet in real life are well hidden under sheeps
clothings - they simply have no idea what communism means.
China -
well, its a case of subliminal racism, I think: China is far a way, the
people don't look 'like us', so its either some quaint cultural
thingie, or something which 'natives' do ... can't happen here ...

I've also had people tell me that Communism is more "Eastern" & therefor "natural" for China - never mind the fact that it was a Westerner Marx who created Communism & was exported to China by the Russians.

re: #125 Dianna

What was the final score for AnneFrance (or whatever her name was?)

I think mathematicians are struggling to invent a new negative number to accurately express her current standing.

re: #128 big steve

Regarding people quoting some of the hated figures of the 20th century; just because you quote someone doesn't mean you identify with everything they said and did. For example, quoting Karl Marx.....he personally was somewhat of a befuddled philosopher who was perpetually broke. However if you actually read some of his direct work, it is inspired. His theories were tested and corrupted by some others on the same list shown. For example

- Karl Marx

Certainly true, but look at the quotes invoked. Calling for the revolution?

Is that benign?

re: #118 Bogotana

I am adding that to my list.

Well worth your time...

re: #109 Ben Hur

None are quoting Barack.

(see Hitchens)

Barack has nothing worth quoting.
He is unquotable.
His speeches are quoteless.
They have gone to meet their maker.
They are devoid of quotes and life.
His speeches have the vapidity of a phantom.
They are wispy as cotton candy with half the substance.
Barack's comments go in one ear and out the other.
Nothing from them sticks to anything. It's worse than teflon.

/Apologies to Monty Python.

re: #129 JacksonTn

Frigging last straw.

Here is link for the Dem Pac making the cancer ad:

[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Unbeknownst to most, the world is completely controlled by a single pipe smoking rabbit.

[Link: www.eatliver.com...]

re: #11 Nevergiveup

I am listening to a news conference with WH spoke person Perino and it seems like the White House and McCain are not entirely on the same page? McCain is saying the bail out is dying and the WH says they are inching closer?

Great time for McCain to prove he's not Bush.

re: #124 galloping granny

I wonder just what it is he is hiding?

Let's see:

STD contracted since he's been married?
Damage due to former/(possibly current) recreational drug use?
Animal removal?

Pretty much everything else is pretty tame and unworthy of being released.

re: #133 karmic_inquisitor

Somewhere in the 400s according to a post someone put up yesterday.

Can we get Sandman there? Yes! We! Can!

We are the downdingers we have been waiting for!

Specifically, -476.

re: #124 galloping granny

I wouldn't call it "hesitant." I would call it a flat out refusal to produce his medical records. Somehow, a one page doctor's note of the sort one might turn it to excuse a school absence really just isn't the same to my mind. Not for someone who wants to be president at any rate.

I wonder just what it is he is hiding?

It just gets harder and harder to step away from the tinfoil hat, because there really is so much secrecy and crazy stuff surrounding The One. The only thing that's apparent to me from his appearance is that he's extremely thin, and he simply doesn't seem to have a lot of stamina. Not being Dr. House, I have no diagnosis, but it's a striking contrast to McCain, who goes like the freakin' Energizer Bunny.

re: #130 MandyManners

Considering what's at stake for the economy,...

I was just pointing out how unfortunate it is for the university to have spent such a large sum in preparation.

re: #134 CommonCents

I don't know who Bryce Hamilton is, but my guess is that he's naieve teenager that doesn't really know what politics is all about.

He sure doesn't know how to spell, either.

re: #119 karmic_inquisitor

Obamatons keeping revenge files on political enemies and then deriding Nixon! What a hoot!

Change!

They are more Nixonian than Richard M. ever was.

re: #108 Honorary Yooper

Heh. Yep, the Unamazing Blue.

So, who was it that beat the Urine and Blue last year? Oh yeah, Appalachian State. :-)

/Then I take back my comment about Ohio, and yes, Cedar Point is one of the best things in the state.

Cedar Point, Cleveland Museum of Art, Ohio State, The Rock Hall and LeBron James round out my Ohio Fave Five (copyright T-Mobile) in no particular order.

NPR had a story on 527 groups over the weekend which mentioned this Progressive group and their upcoming ads. The head of the group mentioned that McCain is hiding major health problems, and refuses to release all his medical records...

re: #107 arethusa

A Democratic PAC is putting out an attack ad on McCain's cancer. Classy.

Isn't Obama the one hesitant to release his medical records?

re: #115 MandyManners

Soylent Green!

re: #134 CommonCents

I don't know who Bryce Hamilton is, but my guess is that he's naieve teenager that doesn't really know what politicsspelling is all about.

fixed you up

re: #145 Fat Jolly Penguin

Specifically, -476.

Thanks.

re: #131 scottishbuzzsaw

She is credited with the bitter wish that 'Karl would accumulate capital instead of just writing about it.'

That is "Jewish Mother Quotables" GOLD!

Jamie Gorelick, Mistress of Disaster

It's not often that one person plays key roles in two -- count 'em, two -- trillion-dollar disasters. Welcome, my friends, to the world of well-connected Democrat Jamie Gorelick.

re: #81 Honorary Yooper

As long as it's directed solely at the UofM in AA*. Otherwise, as an ex-pat Michigander, the only good thing in Ohio is Cedar Point.

/*AA stands for Arrogant Assholes.
//Go Green, Go White!

Brief story from my past:

My first job out of college was in Clear Lake, Texas with a NASA contractor. After a couple of years, we had a big hire-in which included a large lot of Michiganders because the dept. head liked to recruit at his old schools. One day, a particularly callow yout was complaining about everything to do with Houston and Texas. I opined that their must be a flight a day out to Ann Arbor. He said, "No, there's six!".

I just looked at the dumbass and shook my head.

re: #100 karmic_inquisitor

OT: Sandman needs more love.

-118.

Wasn't here for that.

Thanks for giving me the chance to embrace his soaring intellect and cogent analysis.

re: #117 Tigger2005

Hey ... no reason not to use this. If showing a little leg will turn the Pakistani President against the Taliban, maybe John Cindy McCain should do it, too.

Better.

re: #144 Perplexed

Let's see:

STD contracted since he's been married?
Damage due to former/(possibly current) recreational drug use?
Animal removal?

Pretty much everything else is pretty tame and unworthy of being released.

My personal vote is for psychiatric treatment.

re: #121 Perplexed

He was into eating his victims fresh with no seasoning.

Philistine!

re: #68 JSK1121

As an Ohioan, I hope you don't mind when I say Muck Fichigan.

As a Michigander (native Muscovite, but that was a long time ago), I say keep your mucking Ohio. Every time I've been through there (on the way to some place interesting, naturally) it's been nothing but bad weather and speed traps.

And yes, Dearbornistan is a lucking fugly piece of work, no question about it.

re: #123 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Thats not a constitution, ITS A COOKBOOK!

LOL!

re: #123 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Thats not a constitution, ITS A COOKBOOK!

Is there a section on fava beans?

Uh-oh. Dingy Harry's at it again.

re: #131 scottishbuzzsaw

he should have written Das Slacker instead of Das Kapital.

re: #21 jcm

We are all invited to Joy Camp to get our minds right and have only goodthink.

Invited? I fully expect to be hauled off to a reeducation camp on the morning of Jan 21.

Of course, if Bahama gets his way, it could be the morning of Nov 5.

re: #166 Fat Jolly Penguin

Uh-oh. Dingy Harry's at it again.

Why are Democrats so opposed to energy independence?

JFK is hitting 10,000 rpm right now, (no, I don't mean Lurch). His party is running a commie for his office.

re: #77 amphibian

What's up with that, anyway? I mean, I know what Husseinovich said (if it weren't for Biden, he'd be the primary windbag in this campaign), and I know what it sounds like, but brown-shirts are the kind of thing you'd get from someone who thinks big. Husseinovich's history is, incompetent community organizer, who by definition makes small plans, and his nature is, incompetent idiot, who isn't capable of holding big plans in his head.

Was he thinking of something like a Peace Corps to send to the gun-clingers? Seriously, the man doesn't seem big enough for beer-hall politics.

It was an off the cuff remark, not in the prepared speech. It's something not Constitutionally possible, but a glimpse into his mind.

re: #167 taxfreekiller

Watch Them every move now.

Damn right. See my #166.

re: #162 MandyManners

Philistine!

Actually, his first victim was an Italian. Guy was named Al Dente.

re: #168 karmic_inquisitor

he should have written Das Slacker instead of Das Kapital.

ROTFL! I had images of Marx living life out of his mother's basement until she finally said ENOUGH!

re: #169 unreconstructed rebel

Invited? I fully expect to be hauled off to a reeducation camp on the morning of Jan 21.

Of course, if Bahama gets his way, it could be the morning of Nov 5.

I am sorry I am not going to any camp of Joy Behar.

re: #76 OldLineTexan

We need a bigger bus...some of these Commies are not small and portable like Kim Jong-il. Why, he could be in Dinnerjacket's suitcase right now, surviving on toothpaste and Wheatabix crumbs...

I think he's with Fidel, surviving on braaaains.

re: #166 Fat Jolly Penguin

Uh-oh. Dingy Harry's at it again.

We need to all start calling our Congress critters and demanding that whatever bailout they pass is a straight up bill with not one provision that is not directly and solely related to that bailout and not a single earmark for anything for anybody anywhere.

re: #158 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Wasn't here for that.

Thanks for giving me the chance to embrace his soaring intellect and cogent analysis.

You are welcome. Quite the contribution, isn't it?

re: #34 Crusty

You over look Hollywood & George Soros

Mornin' lizards.

re: #169 unreconstructed rebel

Invited? I fully expect to be hauled off to a reeducation camp on the morning of Jan 21.

Of course, if Bahama gets his way, it could be the morning of Nov 5.

And 10 years after.....

re: #141 JacksonTn

Here is link for the Dem Pac making the cancer ad:

[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

And wouldn't you know it, "Loud Howard" Dean's brother is running on of those PACs. Nice family, the Deans, really full of class.

Good morning, Lizards! You all are jumping to conclusions.

Just because a man was born unto Marxists, went to school with Marxists, hung out at university with the Marxists and wrote books about Marxists, doesn't mean that he is a Marxist.

At least, that is what the Obama supporters tell me.

re: #124 galloping granny

There's so much Obama seems to be hiding...his early school years in Indonesia; his medical records; his associations with radicals; his connections with Islamists; his funding for Harvard; his doctoral dissertation; there should be a website somewhere which lists all the items the public does NOT know about Obama...

re: #174 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Actually, his first victim was an Italian. Guy was named Al Dente.

His second one, too: Noted Italian weightlifter "Beef" Carpaccio.

My wife just told me this morning that Obama is no communist, after I called him one. Vehemently. Mother in law says McCain is afraid to debate. Most folk are right at the periphery of these debates, not really caring or wanting to delve deep enough into "politics". MSM, celebrities, and e-mails from friends shape their views. Feelings, that emotion so vital to leftist, cloud reason. Hope triumphs over practicality. Witness Obama's Global Poverty Act , (hatip littleoldlady). Sometimes it can be something so petty as how the candidate's wife looks. Mother in law says Cindy McCain is sooo fake, looks like a mannequin.

re: #170 karmic_inquisitor

Why are Democrats so opposed to energy independence?

Because Nancy Pelosi invested a wad in T. Boone Picken's wind farm scam and AlGore's carbon credit ponzi is at stake.

re: #166 Fat Jolly Penguin

Uh-oh. Dingy Harry's at it again.

Iffenwhen the 'bailout bill' is resolved, I hope Bush, or better yet McCain actually names names and makes people famous.

re: #79 doppelganglander

I also enjoyed (if that's the right word for it) the chapter on Rousseau. I have long felt that his lousy philosophy has done massive damage to the Western world, nearly as much as Communism. I recently gave my niece a copy -- she's a teacher and therefore usually votes Democrat, but she's also a classical scholar and appreciates the great works of Western civilization. In fact, I should order that book by the case and just give it out to everyone I know.

The Benjamin Spock of the 18th Century. Yeh, I'd say the froggie bastard did some damage.

re: #163 amphibian

As a Michigander (native Muscovite, but that was a long time ago), I say keep your mucking Ohio. Every time I've been through there (on the way to some place interesting, naturally) it's been nothing but bad weather and speed traps.

And yes, Dearbornistan is a lucking fugly piece of work, no question about it.

Oh great Ohio and Michigan going at it again. Did you know that these two states once did fight a war.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The losing side got the Toledo area and the other losing side got the Upper Penisula.

re: #123 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Thats not a constitution, ITS A COOKBOOK!

Now, Idi only wanted to serve his subjects.

re: #161 galloping granny

My personal vote is for psychiatric treatment.

That is very intriguing. The man obviously has issues. Maybe a Prozac prescription? Personally, I'm all in favor of better living through chemistry (as I am presently on 4 different meds, including an antidepressant), but I think a lot of people still have a very negative view of psychiatric treatment, drugs, etc. The presidency demands a very stable personality (which is one thing you can say about Bush, he's very emotionally stable).

One quick post.

I wish like hell, I could be more optimistic as it relates to our future in this country.

Once upon a time, folks who espoused anti-American views were underground, built a facade, and kept close company.

Hello fellow traveler?

Just this week, the very birth place of our Democracy, another fallen civil servant is added to the list of those departed, sworn to uphold our Constitution.

The opium of the mass left, power in a vacuum, optimism, thy name is Obama. Their canard, bringing home the troops, a falsehood, in contrast to their heroes at home.

Free Mumia! Another father, husband, son, another cold headstone. Another land, another street named in honor.

It is right under our nose. Men, repacked for consumption, whisper in the ear of promising caricatures, trying to hold themselves in place, close to the brass ring.

The righteous dead are the stepping stones of those thirsting for maniacal power.

I fear for my kids.

re: #147 redstateredneck

I was just pointing out how unfortunate it is for the university to have spent such a large sum in preparation.

Yes, it is unfortunate. However, surely the two campaigns can figure out something.

Include some of the lost money in the bail-out package?

re: #156 Kenneth

And if Obama gets elected, Gorelick will probably be his Attorney General, unless he decides he wants Michelle to do the job since she's such a trusted advisor.

re: #184 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! You all are jumping to conclusions.

Just because a man was born unto Marxists, went to school with Marxists, hung out at university with the Marxists and wrote books about Marxists, doesn't mean that he is a Marxist.

At least, that is what the Obama supporters tell me.

Well, what does that make him, French?

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

And wouldn't you know it, "Loud Howard" Dean's brother is running on of those PACs. Nice family, the Deans, really full of class.

Dean was Governor. So was Pontius Pilate.

re: #152 leboaz

Soylent Green!

A cannibal's power bar.

Dirty F**kin' Communists....

re: #193 doppelganglander

That is very intriguing. The man obviously has issues. Maybe a Prozac prescription? Personally, I'm all in favor of better living through chemistry (as I am presently on 4 different meds, including an antidepressant), but I think a lot of people still have a very negative view of psychiatric treatment, drugs, etc. The presidency demands a very stable personality (which is one thing you can say about Bush, he's very emotionally stable).

And it is very clear that Obama is not particularly stable emotionally and that he harbors significant personality issues.

re: #148 FloridaAnole

He sure doesn't know how to spell, either.

I should have spell checked my plagarism.

re: #187 Rancher

Mother in law says McCain is afraid to debate.

Just quote Bill Clinton to your MIL. This morning he said McCain isn't afraid to debate. He said McCain wanted MORE debates and Obama didn't. Bill is working soooooo hard for Obama, isn't he?

Good afternoon good people.
Not sure if i heard this right,this morning on Good morning America Slick Willie just put the blame on the Demon-crats for this financial meltdown.
Anyone else hear that?
Me thinks the Clinton war machine on Obama is gearing up.

re: #174 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Actually, his first victim was an Italian. Guy was named Al Dente.

Ew.

Just as Penn and Teller's "World Peace" so explicitly revealed, behind all the smoke and mirrors, these moonbats all share a hatred of individual rights, the very same freedoms that make this country great.

re: #81 Honorary Yooper

As long as it's directed solely at the UofM in AA*. Otherwise, as an ex-pat Michigander, the only good thing in Ohio is Cedar Point.

/*AA stands for Arrogant Assholes.
//Go Green, Go White!

Sorry, Honorary Yooper, but I'm a-gonna have to down-ding you on that. Engin school at U of M isn't so bad, as long as you don't step in the artsy types on campus (U of M keeps its engineering and art/music schools on North Campus, and everything else on Central). I suppose State's OK as well, once you've chased the cows out of the computer labs.

re: #190 amphibian

The Benjamin Spock of the 18th Century. Yeh, I'd say the froggie bastard did some damage.

Worse. Dr. Spock didn't leave his five illegitimate children in an orphanage to die.

re: #140 Honorary Yooper

Barack has nothing worth quoting.
He is unquotable.
His speeches are quoteless.
They have gone to meet their maker.
They are devoid of quotes and life.
His speeches have the vapidity of a phantom.
They are wispy as cotton candy with half the substance.
Barack's comments go in one ear and out the other.
Nothing from them sticks to anything. It's worse than teflon.

/Apologies to Monty Python.

Ummmm, how about
That wasn't the preacher I knew.
Ummmmm, let me think,

re: #204 Oldasdirt

The PUMAs are rubbing their hands in glee! They love it every time Bill compliments McCain.

re: #204 Oldasdirt

Good afternoon good people.
Not sure if i heard this right,this morning on Good morning America Slick Willie just put the blame on the Demon-crats for this financial meltdown.
Anyone else hear that?
Me thinks the Clinton war machine on Obama is gearing up.

That would be frightening seeing a party torn with internecine violence this close to the elections.

On the short-list for a key position in an Obama administration;

Andrew Cuomo, Attorney General

With John Edwards out of the running for the Attorney General job that Democrats in Washington, D.C. were so certain he would get, a new crop of top lawyers has emerged to fill what might be Barack Obama’s Justice Department.

The first is Andrew Cuomo, the son of former New York Governor Mario Cuomo and the current Attorney General of New York. Cuomo is familiar to the presidential cabinet, having served as the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. His handling of the Justice Department in the Empire State has been nothing short of exemplary, and he remains highly popular in party circles.

How exemplary?

Andrew Cuomo and Fannie and Freddie
How the youngest Housing and Urban Development secretary in history gave birth to the mortgage crisis

There are as many starting points for the mortgage meltdown as there are fears about how far it has yet to go, but one decisive point of departure is the final years of the Clinton administration, when a kid from Queens without any real banking or real-estate experience was the only man in Washington with the power to regulate the giants of home finance, the Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA) and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (FHLMC), better known as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Andrew Cuomo, the youngest Housing and Urban Development secretary in history, made a series of decisions between 1997 and 2001 that gave birth to the country's current crisis. He took actions that—in combination with many other factors—helped plunge Fannie and Freddie into the subprime markets without putting in place the means to monitor their increasingly risky investments. He turned the Federal Housing Administration mortgage program into a sweetheart lender with sky-high loan ceilings and no money down, and he legalized what a federal judge has branded "kickbacks" to brokers that have fueled the sale of overpriced and unsupportable loans. Three to four million families are now facing foreclosure, and Cuomo is one of the reasons why.

That exemplary!

re: #204 Oldasdirt

Good afternoon good people.
Not sure if i heard this right,this morning on Good morning America Slick Willie just put the blame on the Demon-crats for this financial meltdown.
Anyone else hear that?
Me thinks the Clinton war machine on Obama is gearing up.

Clinton? Really ? Well, as they say these days, the enemy of my enemy, etc.

re: #142 Ben Hur

Unbeknownst to most, the world is completely controlled by a single pipe smoking rabbit.

[Link: www.eatliver.com...]

No, no silly.....it's controlled by Charles.

Babalu rules. If anybody knows how badly Marxism and Communism suck, it's Cubans.

re: #146 doppelganglander

It just gets harder and harder to step away from the tinfoil hat, because there really is so much secrecy and crazy stuff surrounding The One. The only thing that's apparent to me from his appearance is that he's extremely thin, and he simply doesn't seem to have a lot of stamina. Not being Dr. House, I have no diagnosis, but it's a striking contrast to McCain, who goes like the freakin' Energizer Bunny.

His medical records would show he is really Nyarlathotep.
The signatures of Drs. Azathoth and Yog-sogoth would look suspicious.
/do I need to?

re: #124 galloping granny

I wouldn't call it "hesitant." I would call it a flat out refusal to produce his medical records. Somehow, a one page doctor's note of the sort one might turn it to excuse a school absence really just isn't the same to my mind. Not for someone who wants to be president at any rate.

I wonder just what it is he is hiding?

For some reason your question makes me think of that Carville quote, "If [HRC] gave him one of her cojones, they'd each have two." Maybe he knew whereof he spoke...

He seems perfectly healthy, but about 10-15 lbs. underweight by medical standards. He's anorexic?

re: #212 Kenneth

Kenneth, it's not Halloween yet. You've got to stop scaring me like that.

Can we question their patriotism now? Click my avatar to read a REAL inspirational quote.

re: #136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've also had people tell me that Communism is more "Eastern" & therefor "natural" for China - never mind the fact that it was a Westerner Marx who created Communism & was exported to China by the Russians.

Exactly - and that same attitude obtained when Stalin ruled the then SU: a barbaric system, suitable only for a barbaric people ...
Odd how all the manifestly Western European states (former Warsaw Pact states) also lived under communist rule for such a long time, never mind all the oh so unbarbaric intellectuals like Sartre, Gramsci, etc ...

re: #196 merrytexas

Both Gorlcik & Andrew Cuomo are rumored to be on the short list. Both of them helped create the mortgage meltdown mess.

re: #191 big steve

The losing side got the Toledo area and the other losing side got the Upper Penisula.

As a former Michigander, I say Michigan came out ahead in getting the U.P. No offense to Toledo.

This is funny on the latest Michigan polls.

communism hasn't worked anywhere.
unless mass murder is what you are looking for.

Re: the Joseph Stalin link:

"It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."

Did Stalin actually say that?

Seriously, though, I think they must have cleaned it up.

re: #211 Perplexed

That would be frightening seeing a party torn with internecine violence this close to the elections.

That actually would not be half bad. The dems have been needing a good house cleaning for quite some while now. The far re: #217 arethusa

For some reason your question makes me think of that Carville quote, "If [HRC] gave him one of her cojones, they'd each have two." Maybe he knew whereof he spoke...

He seems perfectly healthy, but about 10-15 lbs. underweight by medical standards. He's anorexic?

Anorexia in a 45 year old "straight" male would be so significantly abnormal that it would be almost unheard of. He does seem to make far too many trips to the gym though. Remember the day not long ago the newsies were reporting six in a single day. VERY odd.

re: #211 Perplexed

That would be frightening seeing a party torn with internecine violence this close to the elections.

Frightening? For who?

re: #204 Oldasdirt

Good afternoon good people.
Not sure if i heard this right,this morning on Good morning America Slick Willie just put the blame on the Demon-crats for this financial meltdown.
Anyone else hear that?
Me thinks the Clinton war machine on Obama is gearing up.

i heard it. he said it clearly w/out saying it at all. lol
clinton is a formidable opponent.

re: #193 doppelganglander

That is very intriguing. The man obviously has issues. Maybe a Prozac prescription?

Maybe that explains the cool demeanor...my friends on Prozac all say it suppresses their emotions.

re: #223 nyc redneck

communism hasn't worked anywhere.
unless mass murder is what you are looking for.

...or a tenured position on a college faculty.

re: #224 ErnieG

Re: the Joseph Stalin link:

Did Stalin actually say that?

Seriously, though, I think they must have cleaned it up.

That's the Blues Brothers!

Hi guys and gals,Im new here,and not computor savy,Im also old,,LOL
can someone please tell me how to get an avitar picture working?

re: #194 formercorpsman

The righteous dead are the stepping stones of those thirsting for maniacal power.

I fear for my kids.

Don't get down.

Americans are still Americans.

The country is made up of good, honest people.

Many moonbats are actually honest people : mis-informed, indoctrinated and they tend to lie to themselves, but many are good people trying to perform what they see as good acts.

This is a good place, made up of the sons and daughters of just about every village on the planet. We do a damned good job of not only getting along day to day but working toward a better future. There are plenty of stats to demonstrate that.

Here and now things may seem grim, but I don't see anything among us as lethal to our country.

I spent a lot of energy not wanting to like Ronald Reagan when he was in office, finding a criticism to make or a flaw to point out. But he hooked me with his sentiment that he had a faith in and love for the American people.

I share that love and faith and know others do to.

re: #230 Florida Lady

I know. I was being deliberately obtuse for comic effect.

re: #228 arethusa

I would bet, whether he needs it or not, Obama would refuse any medication.

This is what he's on.

re: #231 Oldasdirt

Hi guys and gals,Im new here,and not computor savy,Im also old,,LOL
can someone please tell me how to get an avitar picture working?

Go to My Account, and it's pretty straightforward from there.

re: #226 maddogg

Frightening? For who?

For the country. We need a leader who inspires confidence in the American people, not someone whose own party turned on him in a moment of vengeance.

re: #236 arethusa

Go to My Account, and it's pretty straightforward from there.

Thanks so much

re: #219 rightwinger3

Can we question their patriotism now? Click my avatar to read a REAL inspirational quote.

I'm inspired. That's Blackjack Pershing talk there.

re: #124 galloping granny

I wouldn't call it "hesitant." I would call it a flat out refusal to produce his medical records. Somehow, a one page doctor's note of the sort one might turn it to excuse a school absence really just isn't the same to my mind. Not for someone who wants to be president at any rate.

I wonder just what it is he is hiding?

Acute rectal-cranial inversion.

re: #228 arethusa

Maybe that explains the cool demeanor...my friends on Prozac all say it suppresses their emotions.

It does, but I tend to think that's just his nature. To me, his fundamental problem is he doesn't know who he is. And the Oval Office is not the place to work out your psychosocial issues.

re: #207 amphibian

Sorry, Honorary Yooper, but I'm a-gonna have to down-ding you on that. Engin school at U of M isn't so bad, as long as you don't step in the artsy types on campus (U of M keeps its engineering and art/music schools on North Campus, and everything else on Central). I suppose State's OK as well, once you've chased the cows out of the computer labs.

Well, the UofM may have an engin school, but they merely run locomotives out of those. The real engineering school in the state is in the UP.

So, I'll have to ding down your #207.

Go Tech! :-)

re: #233 ErnieG

I know. I was being deliberately obtuse for comic effect.

Sorry, I'm being way too serious about this . . . should have been considering the people posting on the Obama blog!

re: #237 Perplexed

For the country. We need a leader who inspires confidence in the American people, not someone whose own party turned on him in a moment of vengeance.

The only people Obama will inspire confidence in are the brain dead idiots. And they are idiots, anyway. So you want a group of confident inspired idiots? I will take scared,unorganized, and broken hearted idiots every time.

re: #235 Kenneth

From the link:

There is nothing more dangerous than the cult of personality. When you fall for someone to this extent that Obama’s followers have fallen for him, you surrender your reason and individuality to him willingly. When millions of people surrender their hearts and their minds to one person the result can be catastrophic. This is what happened in Germany with Hitler, in China with Mao, in the Soviet Union with Stalin, in Cuba with Castro, in Iran with Khomeini, and so and on so forth. Today, we think these men were monsters, but that was not what millions of their worshiper thought. Those people loved them. Dictators can’t dictate, unless peole are willing to be dictated.

re: #243 Honorary Yooper

Well, the UofM may have an engin school, but they merely run locomotives out of those. The real engineering school in the state is in the UP.

So, I'll have to ding down your #207.

Go Tech! :-)

Ah, inter-Michigan trash-talkathon and just as it's getting interesting, I must go! Pity.

Anyway, from your avatar it seems that we at least agree about the Red Wings.

re: #246 Who Watches the Watchmen?

If it wasn't bad enough that Obama has little experience and a socialist ideology, he's also a classic narcissist. Google "Obama +narcissism" and see what you get...

Comrade Obama's Commie Hall of Fame... Bringing people together. And robbing them of capitalism.

In other news, water is wet, but thanks for the post anyway...

If we're judging parties by the worst of their followers, I'll take a relative handful of ignorant Bible-thumping hicks over millions of vicious, condescending, obnoxious, hateful, "Educated Stupid" soft Marxist leftie Dem coastal types any day of the week.

(And I was born and raised in the Northeast, so I've seen both sides first-hand.)

The youth is hypnotized by Che Guevara. They do not know the bloody murderer for what he really was. In a way, I almost feel sorry for these lost souls, but then I wake up and smack my head, and I go back to working harder at trying to cure moonbat fever, which is a lost cause... There is no antidote, it's hopeless.

Time to buy more ammo

re: #136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've also had people tell me that Communism is more "Eastern" & therefor "natural" for China - never mind the fact that it was a Westerner Marx who created Communism & was exported to China by the Russians.

I had a moonbat I worked with tell me (in reference to Iraq) something like "You can't change another country's culture. Vietnam proved that."

I responded that Japan, Korea, and Taiwan had all incorporated democracy and capitalism into their cultures, so why not Vietnam? And I added, "The Communist takeover of Vietnam was itself the imposition of a foreign economic system on another country."

re: #223 nyc redneck

communism hasn't worked anywhere.
unless mass murder is what you are looking for.

Ironic that the people in this country who most admire Communism would be the first up against the wall were it to be implemented... Revolution Eats Itself, as we know, and history repeatedly shows us that the first people purged by collectivists are always the so-called "intellectuals".

Those lovely institutions of higher learning would find themselves without teachers by Week 2 of a real Communist government.

re: #144 Perplexed

Let's see:

STD contracted since he's been married?
Damage due to former/(possibly current) recreational drug use?
Animal removal?

Pretty much everything else is pretty tame and unworthy of being released.

Plausible reasons not to release medical records:

STD (before or after marriage).
History of homosexual behavior (NTTAWWT).
More serious history of substance abuse than publically acknowledged (ie he didn't stop in his early 20s, or whatever he claimed in his porous autobiographies), clinical depression, history of suicidal ideation, or other psychological illness.

And there could be other potentially embarassing things that aren't really politically relevant, but you might not want to get out: hemorrhoids, ongoing tobacco use (which in Obama's case is highly likely), history of cosmetic surgery, impotence, monorchism (eg one nut), etc.

Or maybe some other significant, but not necessarily major disease that hasn't been publically acknowledged (eg inflammatory bowel disease), history of minor malignancy, asthma, etc.

re: #253 Pawn of the Oppressor

Ironic that the people in this country who most admire Communism would be the first up against the wall were it to be implemented... Revolution Eats Itself, as we know, and history repeatedly shows us that the first people purged by collectivists are always the so-called "intellectuals".

Those lovely institutions of higher learning would find themselves without teachers by Week 2 of a real Communist government.

Oh, they would have teachers all right. Teachers wearing berets, who delight in "one on one" education sessions in dingy rooms with bare 35-watt bulbs and a couple of chairs.

re: #124 galloping granny

I wouldn't call it "hesitant." I would call it a flat out refusal to produce his medical records. Somehow, a one page doctor's note of the sort one might turn it to excuse a school absence really just isn't the same to my mind. Not for someone who wants to be president at any rate.

I wonder just what it is he is hiding?

"gg" -

Was the note signed "Beaver's Mother?" Seriously though, thanks to Charles for picking up what has been a daily series at Babalublog. Soy Dr. Shalit alla tambien.

-S-