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Open | Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:23:23 pm PDT

I do benefits for all religions - I’d hate to blow the hereafter on a technicality.

Bob Hope

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1 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:24:51pm

I really hope that McCain gets a bill done TODAY

2 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:27:50pm

An open thread, yet the suject of the previous thread weighs quite heavily on my mind.

3 tommygum  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:27:54pm

McCain to the rescue.

4 pat  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:28:33pm

The present bill is a fucking disaster. Welfare for deadbeats and big companies. Let the collapse begin. And let Bill Clinton, the most economically challenged President since Carter, explain his legislation.

5 tommygum  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:28:47pm

re: #2 Fenway_Nation

That code pink stuff was nasty.

6 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:29:36pm

I honestly think that a bill is in the works without all the pork such a Reid added.
I think there will be a bill done today and McCain will be triumphant at the debate.

7 tommygum  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:29:45pm

re: #4 pat

I did not have relations with that economy.

8 freetoken  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:31:45pm

Some other quotes attributed to Bob Hope:


I have to much money invested in sweaters.


... and particularly relevant to today's news:


A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove that you don't need it.


I love to go to Washington - if only to be near my money.
9 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:32:12pm

re: #4 pat


I heard audio of him trying to disown the current clusterfuck earlier this morning....and throwing BHO under the bus in the process. Truth be told, it was a hoot- although I'm not sure which part was more hootier.

10 pat  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:34:06pm

re: #9 Fenway_Nation

Doesn't take much for Bill Clinton to lie. Air and water mostly.

11 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:36:05pm

Thanks for the Bob Hope line, Charles, makes me feel better already.

We have always worked hard and done everything right and here we are with our damn AIG IRA and our WAMU checking and savings feeling like wicked stepchildren and getting the bailout. We've never gone for the refi's or anything, fixed rate, anything we have done. I feel like a welfare recipient.

12 JeremiahRight  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:37:08pm

Some men worship rank, some worship heroes, some worship power, some worship God, & over these ideals they dispute & cannot unite--but they all worship money. - Mark Twain

13 saltmarsh  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:37:12pm

Anybody ask Pelosi how that whole democrat congress thingy is working?

/but it's for the children.

14 pat  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:38:25pm

Who is dumber? Pelosi or Reid? I can not even find a commie who thinks these idiots have normal intelligence.

15 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:40:46pm

re: #14 pat

LOL

16 lifeofthemind  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:41:07pm

If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. - Sir Winston L.S. Churchill, June 1941

17 JeremiahRight  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:43:06pm

or if you prefer:

"It isn't the sum you get, it's how much you can buy with it, that's the important thing; and it's that that tells whether your wages are high in fact or only high in name." - Mark Twain

18 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:44:08pm

re: #14 pat

Who is dumber? Pelosi or Reid?

Boxer or Klobuchar.

/still not sure who'd win that contest

19 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:44:27pm

Ya know what this bill needs? Escorts!

20 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:46:08pm

I know of lot of money people who are now for Obama. If the house falls, let it fall on him they say. And these are normally rational people I am talking about, men in high places. This is some scary shit.

21 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:46:21pm
22 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:46:44pm

re: #20 rawmuse

I know of lot of money people who are now for Obama. If the house falls, let it fall on him they say. And these are normally rational people I am talking about, men in high places. This is some scary shit.

Don't pay attention to chicken littles.

23 Oldasdirt  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:46:54pm

Was digging around in my closet looking for my shotgun shells,and found and OLD pair of penny loafers.One still had a penny in it.Tomorrow i may be richer than some stock holders.

24 SummerSong  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:47:30pm

Uneasy night...

25 Karridine  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:47:39pm

Possible Catalyst/Solution to MANY PROBLEMS:

McCain calls a press conference, to "...announce the 73-Word Report."

Works on, aiming to get a financial relief bill for America; MSM broadcast cryptic "73-Word Report"...

Press conference time comes up, and McCain addresses the 'journalists' and videotapers and reporters:

"This Report has 73 Words total, including this introduction. We cannot pass this bill to rescue legitimate American financial institutions in trouble BECAUSE Mr Obama, Mr Raines and Mr Frank were instrumental in helping Democrats set up this problem, and are obstructing efforts now to deal with this problem. For full details, Mr and Mrs America, go to [Link: [Link: www.DoubleDealingDems.com...]...] and download your PDF. Any words missing and you know the news media have twisted this Report."

End of Press Conference
The PDF is downloaded by millions, and the MSM gets its damned grip on truth BROKEN.

26 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:47:43pm

re: #23 Oldasdirt

Was digging around in my closet looking for my shotgun shells,and found and OLD pair of penny loafers.One still had a penny in it.Tomorrow i may be richer than some stock holders.

I'll give you $20 for those shoes!

27 JeremiahRight  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:47:45pm

re: #19 Wyatt Earp

Ya know what this bill needs? Escorts!

go figure, Singapore canes people for dropping gum on the street, but they allow hookers at the racetrack?! Lowest crime rate on Earth so i guess you cant argue with that...

28 NY Grampa  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:48:06pm

Hi all:
NY Nana is having a problem with this damn Dell/Hell computer. She loves to listen to a number of radio stations on the computer. Lately most of them will not play. When we right clicked on the player that opened but did not play, and clicked properties, they all say Windows Media Player. I therefore called Dell non-support as Media Player was installed by them. Dell support had me allow the technician to see our computer. After a bunch of fiddling for about 15 minutes he said that he knew what the problem was but as the computer was out of warrantee I would have to pay immediately to have him do the repair: $269 for 1 years service (4 calls), $69 for the one call, or $15 per month. I politely told him to shove it.

Does anyone have any idea how to correct this problem? I am not sure if this started when Windows Media Player 11 was installed. Do you think that we should un-install Media Player and then re-install?

29 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:48:06pm

It seems to me that we have had more concern and debate on the issue from congress on Global Warming than we have with this Bailout which is about zero.

30 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:49:29pm

re: #27 JeremiahRight

go figure, Singapore canes people for dropping gum on the street, but they allow hookers at the racetrack?! Lowest crime rate on Earth so i guess you cant argue with that...

One of the most bizarre stories I have read in a long time. I wonder if some of the escorts come with restrictor plates?

31 pat  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:50:07pm

re: #28 NY Grampa

You make sure that she knows Pat says she should be in bed sleeping. lol

32 Oldasdirt  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:51:28pm

Im sure most have seen this,but just in case,,best movie line ever.

33 NY Grampa  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:52:26pm

re: #31 pat

NY Nana is waving at you from the couch! She says 'good-night'.

Now if we can just get her to get of the couch and go to bed!

34 JeremiahRight  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:53:09pm

re: #30 Wyatt Earp

One of the most bizarre stories I have read in a long time. I wonder if some of the escorts come with restrictor plates?

do you think they run on Kumho tires?

35 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:54:33pm

re: #28 NY Grampa

Hi! Tell Nana good night from me too. And I don't see how it could hurt to uninstall and reinstall, though I'm no geek.

36 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:54:34pm

re: #28 NY Grampa
"I politely told him to shove it."
LOL I don't blame you. You know, does AOL ever help? I get a lot of help from my Earthlink. They even put the Firefox on for me.

37 Oldasdirt  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:54:53pm

re: #26 Wyatt Earp

You really dont want them.I promise.

38 NY Grampa  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:56:12pm

re: #35 Sharmuta


NY Nana just waved good-night to you on her way to get ready for bed.

39 redc1c4  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:56:54pm

my mom asked me what i was giving up for Lent one year when i was a kid.....

i said "Being Catholic"

nothing wrong with being Catholic, it just wasn't for me.

40 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:57:06pm

re: #38 NY Grampa

Good night, you two. Sweet dreams.

41 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:57:17pm

re: #34 JeremiahRight

do you think they run on Kumho tires?

Bwahahahahaha! Well played!

42 NY Grampa  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:57:24pm

re: #36 Pvt Bin Jammin


I actually have gotten help from AOL, but since the have gone all offshore, closing their Canadian help center, they are getting very bad.

43 Moe Katz  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:57:47pm

Do Sikh kids get to wear the kirpan (ceremonial dagger) in any American school boards as they do in Canada?

44 JeremiahRight  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:59:18pm

re: #41 Wyatt Earp

thank you sir, and with that I bid you all a fond farewell, until Black Friday when we can do this all over again!

45 Moe Katz  Thu, Sep 25, 2008 11:59:24pm

re: #42 NY Grampa

I actually have gotten help from AOL, but since the have gone all offshore, closing their Canadian help center, they are getting very bad.

I get good help from Bell Sympatico in Quebec by using the French line. If you select English you get India. The French help is here, and it's decent.

46 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:00:21am

re: #42 NY Grampa

I know what you mean. I got one guy from the Sacramento area on Earthlink, all the rest were out of country. One time it took about five hours to get me up and running. LOL I was a basket case.

47 zombie  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:00:59am

This woman is 44 years old and has had five kids? She has the body of a 25-year-old. A "healthy" 25-year-old.

I'm either jealous or lustful, depending on my gender.

48 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:01:45am

re: #47 zombie

This woman is 44 years old and has had five kids? She has the body of a 25-year-old. A "healthy" 25-year-old.

I'm either jealous or lustful, depending on my gender.

You could also be lesbian...

49 TheMatrix31  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:02:01am

Any inclinations for the debate being on or off tomorrow?

50 zombie  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:03:27am

re: #43 Moe Katz

Do Sikh kids get to wear the kirpan (ceremonial dagger) in any American school boards as they do in Canada?

First off, I doubt there are any Sikhs on school boards in America.

Second of all: if there were, why wouldn't they be able to wear the ceremonial dagger? A school board meeting doesn't have a cockpit that can be highjacked.

Hell, in certain states, I wouldn't be surprised if people wore their guns to school board meetings.

51 Cygnus  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:03:27am

re: #47 zombie

This woman is 44 years old and has had five kids? She has the body of a 25-year-old. A "healthy" 25-year-old.

I'm either jealous or lustful, depending on my gender.

You could be bi and be both jealous and lustful.

52 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:03:49am

re: #47 zombie

And she is about to be a GILF!

53 Oldasdirt  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:03:58am

re: #47 zombie

This woman is 44 years old and has had five kids? She has the body of a 25-year-old. A "healthy" 25-year-old.

I'm either jealous or lustful, depending on my gender.


She makes Nancy Pelosi look like she's had plastic surgery.

54 zombie  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:05:08am

re: #48 Moe Katz

You could also be lesbian...

re: #51 Cygnus

You could be bi and be both jealous and lustful.

Or, I could be a bi lesbian who'd a post-op transsexual! Like Bob Hope in the quote that started this thread, might as well keep all bases covered.

55 zombie  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:06:43am

re: #53 Oldasdirt

She makes Nancy Pelosi look like she's had plastic surgery.

Nancy Pelosi is entirely held together by plastic surgery. She's had at least two operations, and probably plenty more.

56 Max Darkside  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:07:04am

re: #54 zombie

Or, I could be a bi lesbian who'd a post-op transsexual! Like Bob Hope in the quote that started this thread, might as well keep all bases covered.

Hi Zombie!

Would a bi lesbian who'd a post-op transsexual be a full 360 back to a fine lady again?

57 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:08:32am

Hunter - Obama TV ad

Obama's response? Suppress it

The NRA's response?

New NRA Ad - Defend Freedom, Defeat Obama

/not going well for Obama and his legal letter writing team lawyers

58 Oldasdirt  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:09:36am

re: #55 zombie

Nancy Pelosi is entirely held together by plastic surgery. She's had at least two operations, and probably plenty more.


I know.Thats why she allways looks like she just turned around and saw Reagan's ghost.

59 zombie  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:09:50am

re: #56 Max Darkside

Hi Zombie!

Would a bi lesbian who'd a post-op transsexual be a full 360 back to a fine lady again?

Humans who are bi will date "anything that walks"; but as a bi zombie, I date "anything that staggers."

60 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:12:10am

Is Romero's recent remake of "Living Dead" worth bothering with?

61 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:15:11am

My bad, it's not a remake that Romero did last year.

62 zombie  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:15:28am

re: #57 Killian Bundy

Hunter - Obama TV ad

Obama's response? Suppress it

The NRA's response?

New NRA Ad - Defend Freedom, Defeat Obama

/not going well for Obama and his legal letter writing team lawyers

Ooooh, I like that new ad. Very effective.

Gotta be honest, I never gave much thought to the NRA in my life, aside from the vague impression, back in my moonbat days, that they were "gun nuts." But in this election cycle, they're an ally I'll gladly have (especially in Ohio and Pennsylviania).

63 Oldasdirt  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:15:35am

Damn,I just woke up from this terrible nightmare that our banking system was about to collapse,and the demon-crates were trying to fix it.Man,am i glad I'm awake now.

64 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:16:43am

re: #62 zombie

You're welcome!

65 zombie  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:17:05am

re: #60 Moe Katz

Is Romero's recent remake of "Living Dead" worth bothering with?

Truthfully, I have little to no interest in "movie zombies." My name is a reference to actual Haitian voodoo reanimated corpses.

Folklore, not screen gore.

66 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:17:10am

re: #62 zombie

Ooooh, I likeI never gave much thought to the NRA in my life, aside from the vague impression, back in my moonbat days, that they were "gun nuts." But in this election cycle, they're an ally I'll gladly have (especially in Ohio and Pennsylviania).

Especially if they're not shooting at you.

67 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:17:56am

re: #65 zombie

Truthfully, I have little to no interest in "movie zombies." My name is a reference to actual Haitian voodoo reanimated corpses.

Folklore, not screen gore.

That sounds scarier than the movies.

68 NY Grampa  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:19:54am

Well, good-night all. Thanks for the comments.

69 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:23:00am

re: #68 NY Grampa

Good night and good luck with the media player.

70 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:34:29am

My guilty conscience grows...

71 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:38:23am

re: #70 EIDE_Interface

If you have a guilty concience for four hours or more, call your doctor. Do not take if you've had a history of heart problems or high blood pressure...

72 Cygnus  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:38:24am

No goodnight for me. I'm stuck on third shift this week. Happily, this is my Friday. Yay!

73 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:39:11am

Has anyone watched the video of Palin being protected from witchcraft over at Hot Air? How bad is it?

74 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:40:48am

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Has anyone watched the video of Palin being protected from witchcraft over at Hot Air? How bad is it?

/don't you want to be protected from witchcraft?

75 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:42:00am

re: #74 Killian Bundy

Not really.

76 Karridine  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:42:43am

re: #74 Killian Bundy

I want to be protected from Palin

77 Karridine  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:42:57am

-hating moonbats everywhere!

78 Cygnus  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:42:58am

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Has anyone watched the video of Palin being protected from witchcraft over at Hot Air? How bad is it?

Linky, please.

79 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:43:46am

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Not really.

/you sure?

80 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:45:03am

re: #76 Karridine

I want to be protected from Palin

Too late.

/and you don't even live in this country

81 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:45:54am

re: #74 Killian Bundy

I think my Metlife policy covers witchcraft.

82 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:46:48am

re: #78 Cygnus

Video: Visiting pastor prays over Palin for protection from witchcraft

I'm still on dial up so I can't watch.

83 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:47:45am

re: #78 Cygnus

Linky, please.

/Sarah Palin Witch Hunting Pastor Returns to Wasilla, at least he doesn't eat 'em

84 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:47:51am

Peggy Noonan criticizes Palin again

Frankly I'm sick and tired of these GOP has-beens trashing Palin.

85 porkchop  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:48:56am

Bob Hope....i miss the man. Even before he died. He just went off into his own world. He was so loveable and witty. I doubt there will ever be anyone like him.

86 Karridine  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:51:29am

re: #85 porkchop

There won't... he had a heart of gold, sparkling wit, gentle good humor and broad intelligence, all for the entertainment of fellow humans and support to the troops who put their lives in harm's way to protect America!

87 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:52:02am

re: #81 Fenway_Nation

I think my Metlife policy covers witchcraft.

/you'd think Couric or Gibson would have asked her about it

88 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:53:18am
89 porkchop  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:54:24am

Oh yeah! Thanks for the memories !

90 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 12:57:43am

re: #82 Killgore Trout

Video: Visiting pastor prays over Palin for protection from witchcraft

I'm still on dial up so I can't watch.

/lots of invocation of Jesus, it's all evangelical Christian, no dinosaurs

91 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:00:18am

re: #90 Killian Bundy

/lots of invocation of Jesus, it's all evangelical Christian, no dinosaurs

He didn't say "god damn America", so no smoking gun there.

92 Sylvester_T_Cat  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:00:58am

re: #50 zombie


Second of all: if there were, why wouldn't they be able to wear the ceremonial dagger? A school board meeting doesn't have a cockpit that can be highjacked.


I think Moe Katz in his #43 was asking about American "school boards" in the same sense that we in the US would say "school districts". (Not sure but it makes sense that way ;-).)

Apparently Canadian schools are forced by a court ruling to allow male Sikh students to carry ceremonial daggers to school with them, with the predictable problems now happening. Multiculturism is the gift that keeps on giving.

Moe, I doubt very much that any US school districts anywhere are real thrilled to have kids running around school with 13" kirwans. Some districts are so far into the "zero tolerance for weapons" bit that they've been known to suspend kindergartners for having water pistols, nailfiles, empty cartridge cases.... We're at the other end of the spectrum I guess.

93 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:02:17am

re: #92 Sylvester_T_Cat

I think Moe Katz in his #43 was asking about American "school boards" in the same sense that we in the US would say "school districts". (Not sure but it makes sense that way ;-).)

Apparently Canadian schools are forced by a court ruling to allow male Sikh students to carry ceremonial daggers to school with them, with the predictable problems now happening. Multiculturism is the gift that keeps on giving.

Moe, I doubt very much that any US school districts anywhere are real thrilled to have kids running around school with 13" kirwans. Some districts are so far into the "zero tolerance for weapons" bit that they've been known to suspend kindergartners for having water pistols, nailfiles, empty cartridge cases.... We're at the other end of the spectrum I guess.

Paper clips can be awesome weapons...

94 Doctor Bulldog  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:04:07am

Some frickin' Orwellian Sh*t going on here in Missouri!

Working with local law enforcement, Team Obama has sent in a "Truth Squad" to "target" and prosecute ANYONE broadcasting anything Obama deems to be "untrue."

It's won't stop with Radio or T.V., oh no! Us bloggers are next on the chopping block!

Here's a link to my post on this:

DoctorBulldog.wordpress.com

95 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:04:16am

re: #92 Sylvester_T_Cat

I think Moe Katz in his #43 was asking about American "school boards" in the same sense that we in the US would say "school districts". (Not sure but it makes sense that way ;-).)

Apparently Canadian schools are forced by a court ruling to allow male Sikh students to carry ceremonial daggers to school with them, with the predictable problems now happening. Multiculturism is the gift that keeps on giving.

Moe, I doubt very much that any US school districts anywhere are real thrilled to have kids running around school with 13" kirwans. Some districts are so far into the "zero tolerance for weapons" bit that they've been known to suspend kindergartners for having water pistols, nailfiles, empty cartridge cases.... We're at the other end of the spectrum I guess.

Syl, I phrased that badly. It may be 'districts' in Canada, too. I was basically wondering, yes, if the zero tolerance policies so common in the US would preclude the sort of thing we've seen in Canada. Thanks.

96 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:06:12am

In certain urban areas in Canada we now have, ummm, minority kids packing heat. I guess we'll end up with metal detectors, armed guards, and the whole catastrophe eventually.

97 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:07:11am

re: #96 Moe Katz

In certain urban areas in Canada we now have, ummm, minority kids packing heat. I guess we'll end up with metal detectors, armed guards, and the whole catastrophe eventually.

The solution is to live as far away from them as possible.

98 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:08:38am

re: #97 EIDE_Interface

The solution is to live as far away from them as possible.

Yes, the exodus from Toronto to the farther suburbs is well under way.

99 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:08:52am

Well, not one green arrow to be found worldwide in the middle of our night. Dow futures down 190, expect that to at least double before the closing bell rings.

Who are these political assclowns that are costing you money day in and day out?

/weekends coming up, hope you can put gas in your car

100 CapitalistTool  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:09:28am

re: #55 zombie

Nancy Pelosi is entirely held together by plastic surgery. She's had at least two operations, and probably plenty more.

She should sue for malpractice.

101 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:11:24am

re: #99 Killian Bundy

/weekends coming up, hope you can put gas in your car

/and get some cash in your pocket.

102 HD Woman  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:15:17am

Good morning nightshift!

Mark Levin tore Bill O'Reilly a new one![Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
Can't we all just get along? LOL

103 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:15:59am

re: #102 HD Woman

Good morning nightshift!

Mark Levin tore Bill O'Reilly a new one![Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
Can't we all just get along? LOL

I already mentioned it in #88.....

104 HD Woman  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:17:38am

re: #88 EIDE_Interface
You're way ahead of me as usual. :)

105 nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:19:25am

No panic here, just a very clean, very pure desire to calmly get my arms COMPLETELY around what has happened to our Country's Financial markets over the last 13 days. I know that most of you think that this is an impossible goal given the complexity of the STREET, but right before us at this very moment emitting flat screen light and an ability to communicate with nano-second key strokes is this marvel of the 21st century! We can collect information to guide our decisions and our opinions... and most important (at least for the time being) we can share this information with each other.

For instance,

"QUESTION" (In the future, to save time I will just say Q?)

Q? What seems to be the most obvious vector for the current state of this Country's financial system. Was it a specific event within the stock-market , if so, what was the trigger to this event? Was it a series of triggers and if so what movement by individual firms or statements by individuals within each firm triggered a specific series of events?

See, with these lap-tops and PC's WE have the ability to de-construct a goodly amount of time-line to where we find ourselves at this moment. And we NEED to before this next election. I have some hunches as to what this all means, but in all honesty, it sounds like a couple of chapters from a Clancy novel. This is serious shit, I refuse to launch into the stratosphere on something so life changing to the nation as a whole. I have truly enjoyed this site Mr. Johnson and the fine lizards that people it. Thanks for allowing me to post here even after the 3rd glass. But folks, we have work to do and damn little time to do it in.

I sense a great danger close to America, but I am not afraid.

I am respectfully,

The Night watch

106 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:20:40am

Goin to sleep lizards.

107 HD Woman  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:26:11am

re: #25 Karridine
That link doesn't work for me. Is it still active?

108 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:29:22am

re: #101 littleoldlady

/and get some cash in your pocket.

Did you mean Brass in Pocket?

/or Hand in my Pocket?

109 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:32:15am

re: #94 Doctor Bulldog

Some frickin' Orwellian Sh*t going on here in Missouri!

Working with local law enforcement, Team Obama has sent in a "Truth Squad" to "target" and prosecute ANYONE broadcasting anything Obama deems to be "untrue."

It's won't stop with Radio or T.V., oh no! Us bloggers are next on the chopping block!

Here's a link to my post on this:

DoctorBulldog.wordpress.com

That is downright frightening! Whatever happened to Freedom of the Press? Does that not apply in Missouri?

110 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:34:57am

Good morning/afternoon/evening/night, Lizard Nation!

Before I dive into the threads below, I got to tell you that the reporting of yesterday's derailment of the bail-out plan was reported in such a way by the BBC that I sent them a complaint.
Here it is:

"In BBC Breakfast this morning, and again in a photo on your World News page about the U.S.A. bail-out plans, you report and show in striking preference photos of the candidate of the Democratic Party, Barack Obama.
The candidate of the Republican Party, John McCain, only gets a brief mention and is not shown.

This is blatantly one-sided reporting, especially since it was the Democratic Party which has for years hindered President Bush from dealing with this issue.
Even more unfair is that there is no mention that John McCain's proposed legislation two years ago was derailed by the Democrat Congress.

I am not an American citizen and live here in the UK - but if I can find out these things, then your journalists in the USA should be able to.
After all - this was reported on FOX News in the USA yesterday, not to mention in various blogs. I do assume that your reporters are familiar with using the internet!

Blatant one-sided reporting is not what one usually associates with the BBC - I am stunned that this is going on to such an extent that a candidate for the election of President of the USA, namely John McCain, might as well not exis as far as the BBC is concerned..
Shame on your reporters, editors and producers!"

Fuming in Wales...
(No, I didn't sign off with that, but it describes my condition!)

111 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:38:31am

re: #110 yma o hyd

What's the difference between Mick Jagger and a Scottish crofter?

112 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:40:15am

yma o hyd! :-)

113 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:41:11am

Jagger goes, "Hey, you, get offa my cloud" and the Scottish crofter goes, "Hey, McLeod, get offa my ewe."

114 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:46:15am

re: #110 yma o hyd

Good morning :) As far as the BBC goes, they and all too many "news organizations" - properly read propaganda organs - are firmly convinced that no election is necessary and that Barrak Hussein Obama is already POTUS. And they are even rigging the polls.

115 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:46:41am

re: #113 Moe Katz

I'm positive you killed that thread with that one, Moe.

116 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:48:05am

re: #114 galloping granny

Complete with the 'Stupid Americans' lamentation should the 0ne lose on Nov. 4th.

117 Ledger1  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:49:00am

re: #25 Karridine

It appears that McCain was temporarily out maneuvered by the dems.

[The Belmont Club quotes Politico]

It was McCain who had urged Bush to call the White House meeting but Democrats made sure Obama had a prominent part. And much as they complained later of being blindsided, the whole event turned out to be something of an ambush on their part—aimed at McCain and House Republicans. “Speaking professionally,” said one Republican aide, “They did a very good job.” When Bush yielded early to Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D- Nev.) to speak, they yielded to Obama to speak for the assembled Democrats. And it was Obama who raised the subject of the conservative alternative and pressed Paulson on what he thought of the idea. House Republicans felt trapped—squeezed by Treasury, House Democrats and a bipartisan coalition in the Senate. And while McCain spoke surprisingly little after asking for the meeting, he conceded that it appeared there were not the votes for the core Paulson plan without major changes.

[The Belmont Club quotes ABC]

Paulson walked into the room where Democrats were caucusing after today’s meeting at the White House and pleaded with them, “Please don’t blow this up.” Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chair of the House Financial Services Committee was livid saying, “Don’t say that to us after all we’ve been through!” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “We’re not the ones trying to blow this up

[Wretchard notes the bottom line is extortion by the dems]

Who you gonna call? Who you gonna believe? Bailout anyone? A crisis creates an incredible opportunity to play partisan politics. ‘Want me out of the way? Buy me off.’


The shape of things to come

I suspect we are seeing a well planned financial ambush by the dems. They want to scorch the country financially to win the election.

118 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:53:17am

Well since we're all going to die anyway, I'm installing XPSP3, because Window update gas been bugging me for over a month now.

What do I care?

/can't be worse than Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi managing my investments

119 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:56:37am

Windows is creating a "system restore point".

/nothing good can come of that

120 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:59:11am

re: #116 Fenway_Nation

Complete with the 'Stupid Americans' lamentation should the 0ne lose on Nov. 4th.

You know, I am damned sick of that "stupid Americans" meme. We are smart enough to feed half the world. Smart enough to land man on the moon. Smart enough that every major cure for every disease and virtually all modern drugs have come from our shores. Smart enough to put a telephone in every hand and a TV in every living room as well as a car in every garage. Smart enough to put a computer on every desk top and in the hands of every school child. Smart enough to invent modern production methods. Smart enough to build the Panama Canal. Smart enough to cure polio on dimes collected by housewives and pennies collected by children. Smart enough to fund the rebuilding of the entire economy of Europe after World War II.

When Europe manages to accomplish anything other than periodic universal destruction by way of internecine warfare then they might have something to talk to us "Stupid Americans" about. In the meantime, they should shut the hell up and start footing the bill for their own defense.

121 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 1:59:48am

Is fruitcup an investment that can appreciate in value? What if we have a fruitcup-heavy portfolio?

122 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

123 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:00:15am

It's taking minutes, installing lots of files.

/hopefully, I'll be back after it's done

124 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:00:30am

re: #118 Killian Bundy

Well since we're all going to die anyway, I'm installing XPSP3, because Window update gas been bugging me for over a month now.

What do I care?

/can't be worse than Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi managing my investments

You are a brave man. I have heard bad things about SP3.

125 Mel Lono  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:00:33am

Just dropped in for fruitcake cup. Can't sleep with the fate of the modern financial world on the brink of collapse.

126 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:00:53am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Did you make coffee too, or do I have to bring my own?

127 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:01:01am

re: #121 Fenway_Nation

Is fruitcup an investment that can appreciate in value? What if we have a fruitcup-heavy portfolio?

Fenway! :-)

APPLESAUCE FUTURES!

/can't be any worse than what we've got now...

128 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:01:36am

re: #125 Mel Lono

Just dropped in for fruitcake cup. Can't sleep with the fate of the modern financial world on the brink of collapse.

Unless you have zillions riding on it you might as well sleep now. After all, it is us "Stupid Americans" who have to foot the bill.

129 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:04:18am

re: #120 galloping granny

Thanks granny,

Your the Best.

130 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:04:27am

re: #127 littleoldlady


/can't be any worse than what we've got now...

Worse than hard-earned taxpayer money going to ACORN?

131 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:04:36am

re: #124 galloping granny

You are a brave man. I have heard bad things about SP3.

It's "finishing installation".

/taking way too long

132 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:05:30am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Opps- I misdinged I was so excited for fruitcup!

133 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:05:46am

granny! :-)

Okay, okay. I'll share my coffee.

/the "every man for himself" philosophy didn't work out too well...

134 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:06:35am

re: #131 Killian Bundy

It's "finishing installation".

/taking way too long

This is Microsoft you are talking about.

135 Temujin  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:07:00am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Thank you, LoL. Delicious, as always.

136 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:07:21am

Okay, it's done.

/hopefully see you after a reboot

137 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:07:50am

re: #133 littleoldlady

granny! :-)

Okay, okay. I'll share my coffee.

/the "every man for himself" philosophy didn't work out too well...

Thanks much little. I am cranky this morning. Got informed last night that I have to drive 200 miles or so this morning and sit around and wait for about 4 hours. I am not enthused to say the very least.

138 Mel Lono  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:07:58am

re: #128 galloping granny
Sorry, sarc/ button was off. Who called me a "stupid American" by the way?

139 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:08:21am

Sharmuta! :-)

Isn't it nice that Charles invented correctable dings? ;-)

Mel! :-)

Killian! :-)

Nightwatch! :-)

LGF! :-)

140 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:08:36am

O.K,

I love fruit-cup, but why never no Ambrosia? (even with the spell-check, it still don't look right) maybe thats why...

141 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:09:02am

re: #139 littleoldlady

No- I didn't ding the wrong way- I dinged the wrong post.

142 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:09:08am

re: #137 galloping granny

At least you don't live in Atlanta

/where you wouldn't be able to get the gas to get home...

143 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:10:32am

re: #136 Killian Bundy

If not, nice knowing you....

144 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:10:44am

re: #138 Mel Lono

Sorry, sarc/ button was off. Who called me a "stupid American" by the way?

See #116 and #120

145 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:11:03am

re: #142 littleoldlady


Serious, Ike put that hard a hit on supplies?

146 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:12:56am

re: #142 littleoldlady

At least you don't live in Atlanta

/where you wouldn't be able to get the gas to get home...

This is very true. I hear Tennessee is no better. Plenty of gas here in New Enland and the price has been steadily dropping for a month or so now. Not even a blip for the hurricanes. Though I think that may have something to do with President Bush's order wiping out all of the individual state designer gas requirements. (About time that happened. Too bad it is temporary.)

147 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:13:15am

re: #145 Nightwatch

There was (still is?) an inexplicable lack of gas in certain Southern states, as well as a seemingly random spike in prices in some areas.

Ike? Maybe. I dunno.

148 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:13:21am

RoP continues its peaceful inner struggle....
German police seize terror suspects on KLM flight

-- German police commandos grabbed two terrorist suspects from an Amsterdam-bound flight early Friday before the plane took off from Cologne, police said.


A 23-year-old Somali man and a 24-year-old German born in Somalia were arrested before the KLM flight left the airport, North Rhine-Westphalia state police said.

....
Germany's top-selling Bild newspaper, citing police sources, said the two had been under observation for months and a suicide note was found in their apartment saying that they wanted to die for the "jihad" or "holy war."

149 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:13:40am

re: #145 Nightwatch

Serious, Ike put that hard a hit on supplies?

No - rumours and a run on the tank put that hard a hit on supplies.

150 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:13:43am

re: #115 littleoldlady

I'm positive you killed that thread with that one, Moe.

I was hoping to revive it, actually, with a McCain-like stroke of the unexpected.

151 akak  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:14:17am

What is worse SP3 or Ad Aware?

152 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:14:43am

re: #151 akak

What is worse SP3 or Ad Aware?

What does one have to do with the other?

153 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:16:04am

re: #136 Killian Bundy

Okay, it's done.

/hopefully see you after a reboot

Back.

/seems pretty hairless

154 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:16:32am

re: #147 littleoldlady

Gotta wonder, here on the left coast we have two MAJOR refineries north and south of my home, yet we still pay some of the highest $$ pr gal.

155 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:17:08am

re: #151 akak

What is worse SP3 or Ad Aware?

It's all good.

/what's your problem?

156 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:17:10am

[Link: www.electiontaxes.com...]

Now we can all see what the bottom line of an 0bama Presidency would be.

157 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:18:13am

re: #154 Nightwatch

Gotta wonder, here on the left coast we have two MAJOR refineries north and south of my home, yet we still pay some of the highest $$ pr gal.

That is because over there on the left coast, ordinary gasoline like most people use just won't do. You have designer gasoline with special requirements.

158 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:18:48am

re: #150 Moe Katz

I was hoping to revive it, actually, with a McCain-like stroke of the unexpected.

Note to the drama queens in Washington:

I'm getting way too old for all of these "unexpecteds".

/Cardiologist Conspiracy!

159 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:19:34am

re: #156 Sharmuta

[Link: www.electiontaxes.com...]

Now we can all see what the bottom line of an 0bama Presidency would be.

Does it take into account the huge jump in mandatory deductions that are not labeled "taxes" that some of Obama's plans like universal health care would entail? Or will those just be slipped in under the radar like that mandatory Medicare tax was some years back?

160 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:19:45am

re: #149 galloping granny

did you mean run on the BANK?:}

161 akak  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:20:44am

the frustration

installation problems with SP3, and Ad Aware has the nasty problem of freezing 2/3 of the way thru a scan.

Plus I have to do both on 4 computers.

162 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:21:03am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Note to the drama queens in Washington:

I'm getting way too old for all of these "unexpecteds".

/Cardiologist Conspiracy!

Stocks in drug companies making anxiolytics and antidepressants are probably not following the general market trend at the moment.

163 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:21:19am

re: #156 Sharmuta

[Link: www.electiontaxes.com...]

Now we can all see what the bottom line of an 0bama Presidency would be.

/post something we don't already know or couldn't readily guess, if we weren't all on anti-psychotic drugs

164 axegrinder  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:22:15am

re: #146 galloping granny

Plenty of gas here in Houston. Of course, that might be because our economy was basically on hold for two weeks waiting to get power back. Don't use much gas if you don't have a job with power to go to.

165 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:22:21am

re: #160 Nightwatch

did you mean run on the BANK?:}

No, I meant run on the tank. A scenario that some of us remember very well from the 70's. Rumours get started about running out of gas because of this or that, so people drag every car they own down and fill it up to the brim, resulting in huge lines and a complete emptying of the storage tanks at the gas station. Leaving no gas to sell until supplies are renewed - and each of those underground tanks can hold an entire gas tanker's worth of gas.

166 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:24:14am

re: #157 galloping granny


I very much hope that GW puts a ball point pen through the heart of that one(I hear the distant swearing of BABS from the cliffs of her Malibu XANDU) sarc/very on

167 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:24:57am

re: #161 akak

the frustration

installation problems with SP3, and Ad Aware has the nasty problem of freezing 2/3 of the way thru a scan.

Plus I have to do both on 4 computers.

I am not going to install SP3. If you are having problems with AdAware then I would consider the possibility of a worm/trojan/virus that does not want to leave. I got the first infection I have had in a couple of decades a couple of weeks back - Virtumundo, came in on an IWin game that is supposed to be "safe" - and the thing took me 6+ programs and three days to clean out.

168 axegrinder  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:26:13am

re: #165 galloping granny

We had that on the Wednesday and Thursday before Ike hit. I'm guilty. I was in line for 35 minutes with the truck and almost an hour with the car. Had to put premium in the car because that was all they had left. Lots of folks getting gas for their generators as well.

169 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:26:30am

re: #166 Nightwatch

I very much hope that GW puts a ball point pen through the heart of that one(I hear the distant swearing of BABS from the cliffs of her Malibu XANDU) sarc/very on

He did right before the hurricanes struck. Unfortunately, the ban is only temporary. Yeah, California costs the rest of us quite some little bit of money because ya'll are so doggoned "special" out there with your "special" cars and "special" gas. BABS should jump off the cliff.

170 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:27:55am

re: #156 Sharmuta

[Link: www.electiontaxes.com...]

Now we can all see what the bottom line of an 0bama Presidency would be.

Is this the link you posted?

/because that's wahtc ame up under IE7/XPSP3

171 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:28:23am

re: #168 axegrinder

We had that on the Wednesday and Thursday before Ike hit. I'm guilty. I was in line for 35 minutes with the truck and almost an hour with the car. Had to put premium in the car because that was all they had left. Lots of folks getting gas for their generators as well.

Makes a very good argument for "Be Prepared." Gas, flashlights, batteries and food can be darned hard to find in an emergency.

172 akak  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:29:08am

re: #167 galloping granny

I am not going to install SP3. If you are having problems with AdAware then I would consider the possibility of a worm/trojan/virus that does not want to leave. I got the first infection I have had in a couple of decades a couple of weeks back - Virtumundo, came in on an IWin game that is supposed to be "safe" - and the thing took me 6+ programs and three days to clean out.

I have Norton, McAfee & AVG running on 4 computers (not each) 2 networks and no viruses are showing up.

I think it's a common problem after looking at their support forum?

173 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:29:48am

re: #165 galloping granny

Let me tell ya about getting up at OH-DARK-30 to gas up my Dad's and my MOM's car on the EVEN days during the peanut farmer's pathetic reign.

Then being in the military and watching DAY 233+++ of the Iranian hostage crisis(many TV sets in the BEQ were destroyed by flying beer cans!) Being in the military during his stint as CIC.............sucked!

174 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:35:30am

re: #172 akak

I have Norton, McAfee & AVG running on 4 computers (not each) 2 networks and no viruses are showing up.

I think it's a common problem after looking at their support forum?

Antiviruses only pick up viruses for starters. Worms/trojans are not viruses and most antivirus program will not detect them. I had an antivirus running on this machine when I got infected. Comodo. Replaced that.

Norton and McAfee are not worth the discs that you buy them on. AVG is now bloatware that takes a huge amount of RAM to run and slows down the internet greatly by prescanning every page you look at. Antiviruses are generally only as good as their definitions are up to date, so in many cases your update from an hour or two ago might very well miss some new iteration of something. I prefer an antivirus that has an heuristic function - operates on the principle that if it looks like a duck and acts like a duck, it is a duck until proven otherwise.

I replaced AVG with Comodo when AVG went to 8.0 and I could barely load a page. When I got Virtumundo, I went looking for a more reliable antivirus, one that did not take a gig of space and an entire 512 MB of RAM just to operate. I ended up with ESET - tiny footprint, has everything you need then some. Still on the 30 day trial but I will likely buy this one.

175 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:36:59am

Dow futures down 150.

need to nap for three hours

176 Mel Lono  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:37:02am

re: #173 Nightwatch

OH-DARK-30

must be Navy. Thanks sailor. Coast Guard here.

177 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:38:19am

re: #173 Nightwatch

Let me tell ya about getting up at OH-DARK-30 to gas up my Dad's and my MOM's car on the EVEN days during the peanut farmer's pathetic reign.

Then being in the military and watching DAY 233+++ of the Iranian hostage crisis(many TV sets in the BEQ were destroyed by flying beer cans!) Being in the military during his stint as CIC.............sucked!

I remember the days all too well. The unemployment lines that went round the block, the $2 limit on gas purchases that were barely enough for some folks to move the car from one line to the next (luckily we had one of the first 250 Pintos sold in this country and $2 would fill the tank, which was then good for about 450 miles). Not pretty.

178 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:38:53am

re: #174 galloping granny

I have been led to understand that a simple router(?) is all the protection we really need and so much cheaper(OOPPS!) wrong word around Mr. Bill's clan....%)

179 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:41:34am

re: #178 Nightwatch

I have been led to understand that a simple router(?) is all the protection we really need and so much cheaper(OOPPS!) wrong word around Mr. Bill's clan....%)

NO, no no no no! I have a router. Two actually. One to interface with the internet and another to provide a wireless LAN. That does nothing for your email or stuff embedded in pages you visit or things you download. You NEED an antivirus. And a software firewall.

180 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:42:26am

Pretty happy with Kaspersky anti-virus. I make the bootable cd-rom from it and use it to scan the hard drive if I'm in any doubt---the trojans can't load if you're booting from another drive. Kaspersky doesn't load the system down too badly and it learns from experience so as to consume fewer resources when checking something repeatedly.

181 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:46:04am

By the way, this system is SP3 and runs just fine. SP3 is basically just a roll-up of a lot of individual security fixes, AFAIK. It's still basically SP2.

182 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:48:47am

re: #180 Moe Katz

Pretty happy with Kaspersky anti-virus. I make the bootable cd-rom from it and use it to scan the hard drive if I'm in any doubt---the trojans can't load if you're booting from another drive. Kaspersky doesn't load the system down too badly and it learns from experience so as to consume fewer resources when checking something repeatedly.

Virtumundo copies itself onto the other drives. (So it will also be in that special segregated compartment where your XP backup files are.) And writes itself into the registry. It loads - period. And it is hell in a handcart to get rid of. Of course it is a trojan, not a virus.

183 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:49:21am

re: #177 galloping granny


Gotta tell you, just 3 doors down with spider webs anchoring the frame to the driveway and a root-beer brown paint job just so GONE from the left coast sunlight,(did I mention 4 flat tires, yet an IMMACULATE body) is none-other than a frozen in time FORD PINTO! Kinda alittle freaky that the son of the owner who died what...6 years ago just leaves it there yet has gardeners keeping up the look of the place yet he doesn't live there.
Just comes by about once a month to check the mail-box and never a hello or nothing.

184 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:54:39am

Wow. If you folks haven't read this, do - well worth a read.
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

185 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:54:56am

re: #179 galloping granny

Not to worry, Knights along the ramparts armed with heavy pull crosbows and claymores for the real nasties.

Gotta tell ya though, Mainframe Tech talk on an open thread is kinda like "Loose Lips...


watch yer six.."}

186 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:58:20am

re: #112 littleoldlady

yma o hyd! :-)

Top of the morning to you, littleoldlady!

At least the sun is shining ...

187 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 2:59:15am

re: #183 Nightwatch

Gotta tell you, just 3 doors down with spider webs anchoring the frame to the driveway and a root-beer brown paint job just so GONE from the left coast sunlight,(did I mention 4 flat tires, yet an IMMACULATE body) is none-other than a frozen in time FORD PINTO! Kinda alittle freaky that the son of the owner who died what...6 years ago just leaves it there yet has gardeners keeping up the look of the place yet he doesn't live there.
Just comes by about once a month to check the mail-box and never a hello or nothing.

How strange. Our particular Pinto was made in Germany and had a Porsche engine. I don't remember what German Ford was calling the model, but we had rented one for a summer tour with my parents while we were there. Dad worked for Ford at the time and when US Ford decided to give Pinto a whirl over here we got one of the first few they brought over as a trial balloon. Boy that was one heck of a car.

All the guys in their big honkers would pull up to my little roller skate at the light and rev up that great big V8 engine - and I would leave them in the dust. The looks I would get were priceless.

/Yes, yes, Granny has a lead foot. Someday I will be old and rich and drive a little red Vette. :)

188 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:00:50am

re: #185 Nightwatch

Not to worry, Knights along the ramparts armed with heavy pull crosbows and claymores for the real nasties.

Gotta tell ya though, Mainframe Tech talk on an open thread is kinda like "Loose Lips...


watch yer six.."}

Ye gods - I haven't heard anyone mention a mainframe in lo these many years. I did quite like the VAX. And the internet was so much more fun when you printed out Yahoo on green & white striped paper and had to wade through reams of the stuff to find the link you wanted. :)

189 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:01:17am

re: #113 Moe Katz

Huh - didn't know the Scots were also targets of sheep-shagging jokes ...
Its usually the Welsh who are subjects of such jokes - and we do not take kindly to that!

Leeks at dawn, matey!

190 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:03:53am

re: #182 galloping granny

Virtumundo copies itself onto the other drives. (So it will also be in that special segregated compartment where your XP backup files are.) And writes itself into the registry. It loads - period. And it is hell in a handcart to get rid of. Of course it is a trojan, not a virus.

Give Kaspersky a try, they have a one-month free trial, and it's a top-rated program. Very light on system resources.... Trojan Horses are a subclass of viruses, and extremely hard to get rid of, I agree.

191 Moe Katz  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:05:08am

re: #189 yma o hyd

Huh - didn't know the Scots were also targets of sheep-shagging jokes ...
Its usually the Welsh who are subjects of such jokes - and we do not take kindly to that!

Leeks at dawn, matey!

That joke has a sort of provenance: Rod Stewart is said to have found it extremely funny and to have gone telling it to everyone he knew.

192 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:06:51am

Good morning, Lizards.

193 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:08:33am

re: #190 Moe Katz

Give Kaspersky a try, they have a one-month free trial, and it's a top-rated program. Very light on system resources.... Trojan Horses are a subclass of viruses, and extremely hard to get rid of, I agree.

I'll take a look at it at any rate.

194 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:08:47am

re: #192 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning Goddess - how's things?

195 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:11:36am

{galloping granny }

Things are good! I'm having a great year at school. I can't remember--has your granddaughter read Avi's Nothing But the Truth? We're doing the play version in November.

196 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:13:43am

re: #189 yma o hyd

Huh - didn't know the Scots were also targets of sheep-shagging jokes ...
Its usually the Welsh who are subjects of such jokes - and we do not take kindly to that!

Leeks at dawn, matey!

Scots don't take kindly either...especially before they've finished their first cups of coffee...

197 Mel Lono  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:14:19am

re: #184 galloping granny

Interesting read. Thought about forwarding it to my Jewish Dem friends, but I think they'd still miss the point.

198 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:15:17am

re: #195 goddessoftheclassroom

{galloping granny }

Things are good! I'm having a great year at school. I can't remember--has your granddaughter read Avi's Nothing But the Truth? We're doing the play version in November.

No, she hasn't. I've had one or two from Avi for free reading for her, but they weren't quite her cup of tea. This year we are doing science fiction. Currently Jurassic Park, looking at the science behind "bringing back the dinosaurs."

She is very enthusiastic this year too.

199 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:15:33am

re: #191 Moe Katz

That joke has a sort of provenance: Rod Stewart is said to have found it extremely funny and to have gone telling it to everyone he knew.

Thing is, while jokes told amongst a tribe can be screamingly funny, they can become quite hurtful when told by 'outsiders' who, moreover, belong to a tibe which is eprceived as supressors.

Thus, these sheep jokes are severely frowned upon in Wales because they're usually told by the English and used as a means to denigrate and belittle Walians, especially as there are more sheep in Wales than humans ...

What the Scots do amongst themselves - huh, the poor things carry a heavy burden, what with long hours of darkness and Nessie ... we forgive our Celtic Brethren!

200 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:17:28am

re: #197 Mel Lono

Interesting read. Thought about forwarding it to my Jewish Dem friends, but I think they'd still miss the point.

It is exceedingly strange to me how soon so many in the Jewish community have forgotten. I used to be completely unable to comprehend how virtually the entire Jewish community of Europe could fail to see Hitler's grand plans and how that would apply to them, how they could keep passing things off for so long. More recently just how that inability happened has become quite clear.

201 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:18:11am

re: #199 yma o hyd

What the Scots do amongst themselves - huh, the poor things carry a heavy burden, what with long hours of darkness and Nessie ... we forgive our Celtic Brethren!

Et tu, Brute?

202 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:18:16am

re: #196 scottishbuzzsaw

Scots don't take kindly either...especially before they've finished their first cups of coffee...

See - its the non-Celts who are the culprits!

How are you today? Sun shining already?
Its a glorious Autumn morning here again.
Miss Dog found a wonderful, brand new tennis ball in the park today. It is black and yellow, like yin and yang! She loves it!

203 Salamantis  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:18:31am

German Police Seize Suspects on Plane

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Excerpt:

BERLIN — German police boarded a Dutch airliner Friday at Cologne-Bonn airport and seized two suspected terrorists who had been under surveillance for several months, police told German news organizations.

A special unit of German officers arrested the two men at 6:55 a.m. local time and, in a related operation, found apparent suicide notes at their apartment, a police spokesman was quoted as saying. The men were not identified by name but were said to be a 23-year-old Somali and a 24-year-old German of Somali descent.

Michaela Heyer, a police spokeswoman, said that, contrary to initial reports, the airplane was not stormed by police. “The arrest was entirely unspectacular,” she said. There was “no indication” that either man was carrying explosives or weapons.

The police boarded the plane shortly before it was to take off and took the two men into custody. They were “suspected of wishing to participate in jihad and possible attacks,” she said. She declined to give further details because the investigation was continuing.

204 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:18:50am

re: #192 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Good morning, Goddess!

205 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:19:00am

re: #187 galloping granny

In high school, one of my casual friends who also happened to be a long-haired, madman about hot-rods FREAK! He used his daddy's welding torch to implant a COBRA 427 into a cobalt blue Pinto with some Frankenstein esk M-22 rear-end and a special order B&M shifter.
When he dumped the clutch in front of school this beast would spin 360s like a pit-bull on crack! Totaled it in the parking lot of the Foster's Freeze less than a month after bringing that monster to life.(He walked away from it ) Took out 5 or 6 parked cars and his dad got stuck with the bill.

That was the last hybrid he ever got to build.:)

206 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:20:25am

re: #192 goddessoftheclassroom


Morning M' LADY

(Bows @ waist)

207 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:20:31am

re: #198 galloping granny

No, she hasn't. I've had one or two from Avi for free reading for her, but they weren't quite her cup of tea. This year we are doing science fiction. Currently Jurassic Park, looking at the science behind "bringing back the dinosaurs."

She is very enthusiastic this year too.

This one is a "documentary novel"--the story is told via memos, letters, radio reports, and newspaper articles. It's a great way for kids to see how bias and spin can affect what people see as truth.

208 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:20:56am

re: #205 Nightwatch

In high school, one of my casual friends who also happened to be a long-haired, madman about hot-rods FREAK! He used his daddy's welding torch to implant a COBRA 427 into a cobalt blue Pinto with some Frankenstein esk M-22 rear-end and a special order B&M shifter.
When he dumped the clutch in front of school this beast would spin 360s like a pit-bull on crack! Totaled it in the parking lot of the Foster's Freeze less than a month after bringing that monster to life.(He walked away from it ) Took out 5 or 6 parked cars and his dad got stuck with the bill.

That was the last hybrid he ever got to build.:)

ROFLMAO! I was a little better to mine. Though I did know a guy that needed roller skates on the rear bumper of his.

209 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:21:37am

re: #202 yma o hyd

See - its the non-Celts who are the culprits!

How are you today? Sun shining already?
Its a glorious Autumn morning here again.
Miss Dog found a wonderful, brand new tennis ball in the park today. It is black and yellow, like yin and yang! She loves it!

Sun hasn't risen yet...still o'dark thirty...not sure I'm speaking to you...but I'm very glad Miss Dog is happy with her new ball...;>)

210 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:21:51am

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

This one is a "documentary novel"--the story is told via memos, letters, radio reports, and newspaper articles. It's a great way for kids to see how bias and spin can affect what people see as truth.

I'll take a peek at it then. We're doing introductory logic/reasoning this year.

211 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:23:07am

re: #200 galloping granny

It is exceedingly strange to me how soon so many in the Jewish community have forgotten. I used to be completely unable to comprehend how virtually the entire Jewish community of Europe could fail to see Hitler's grand plans and how that would apply to them, how they could keep passing things off for so long. More recently just how that inability happened has become quite clear.

Yes - and the even more troubling aspect of this is that some of them did see it, did warn, but were totally disregarded.
He was one of them ...

I think its to do with an unwillingness to read or listen to those who do not share the same perceived political outlook - left-leaning in Germany, conservative in the USA.

212 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:25:14am

re: #201 scottishbuzzsaw

Et tu, Brute?

Its just a bit of fun between Celts (Irish included) - having a laugh amongst ourselves!
Non-Celts don't understand and need to be told off when they try to butt in!

213 loflyer  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:26:39am

Arrrr, morning mates! Bob Hope was a classy guy, unlike Jane Fonda, Hope always supported the troops. God bless him!

214 Nightwatch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:26:41am

Thank you all for the exchanges, it's been fun.

I must head to sleep, the eyes dodroop])

215 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:26:41am

Gotta go folks. Have to be out the door in 5 minutes and I am still in PJ's. Have a great day.

216 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:27:55am

re: #209 scottishbuzzsaw

Sun hasn't risen yet...still o'dark thirty...not sure I'm speaking to you...but I'm very glad Miss Dog is happy with her new ball...;>)

Yep - at least she's now showing more interest in playing!
That heart medication seems to have made her put on weight, horrors, and thus she's slowed down a lot.
Vet told me to chivvy her on - so I've put her on a diet and am kicking butt, figuratively speaking: seems to work ...

217 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:31:01am

BBL - quick trip to the shops for some neccessities, and then another lovely romp in the park with Miss Dog.
Wish I could send you our beautiful autumn weather - not a cloud in the sky!
We're all making the most of it, storms predicted for next week ...

218 loflyer  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:31:16am

Yaaar, here is some music to wake up the lizards, Coldplay

219 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:31:39am

re: #217 yma o hyd

BBL - quick trip to the shops for some neccessities, and then another lovely romp in the park with Miss Dog.
Wish I could send you our beautiful autumn weather - not a cloud in the sky!
We're all making the most of it, storms predicted for next week ...

Enjoy!

220 uptight  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:35:18am

What would be the worst thing you could wish on that bastard Omar Bakri Mohammed, leader of Al Muhajiroun?

Drowning beer?
Choking on pork rinds?
Son converting to Judaism?
Daughter becoming a stripper?

It's all fun and schadenfreude until someone cops an honour killing.

221 loflyer  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:41:18am

re: #220 uptight

What would be the worst thing you could wish on that bastard Omar Bakri Mohammed, leader of Al Muhajiroun?

Drowning beer?
Choking on pork rinds?
Son converting to Judaism?
Daughter becoming a stripper?

It's all fun and schadenfreude until someone cops an honour killing.

Arrr, the buxom lass is living life on the edge! Hope she doesn't end up in the obits any time soon!

222 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:48:09am

Have a great day, Lizards!

In addition to the Prayer List, I'm praying that our leaders will be guided by wisdom, not selfishness.

223 uptight  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 3:54:10am

re: #220 uptight

What would be the worst thing you could wish on that bastard Omar Bakri Mohammed, leader of Al Muhajiroun?

Drowning beer?
Choking on pork rinds?
Son converting to Judaism?
Daughter becoming a stripper?

It's all fun and schadenfreude until someone cops an honour killing.

Actually - considering Paul McCartney just defied the DEATH THREAT made against him by Omar Bakri Mohammed, it hasn't exactly been a good day for the Islamofascist!

224 loflyer  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:01:25am

re: #223 uptight

Actually - considering Paul McCartney just defied the DEATH THREAT made against him by Omar Bakri Mohammed, it hasn't exactly been a good day for the Islamofascist!

Yaaar, good for Paul! Band on the run!

225 RTLM  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:01:25am

Dutch Government: Fitna cause for Netherlands as "Preferred Target" of Islamic terrorists.

Cologne, Germany - German police commandos boarded a plane at Cologne airport just before it took off for Amsterdam and arrested two terrorist suspects Friday morning, police said.

A 23-year-old Somali man and a 24-year-old German man born in Somalia were arrested before the KLM flight left the airport, a spokeswoman for North Rhine-Westphalia state police said.

Police spokeswoman Katharina Breuer told The Associated Press that officers boarded the plane at 6:55 a.m. (0455 GMT) and arrested the men without incident. She said authorities do not suspect the men planned to abduct the flight.

Germany's top-selling Bild newspaper, citing police sources, said the two had been under observation for months and a suicide note was found in their apartment saying that they wanted to die for the "jihad" or "holy war."

Earlier this month, the Dutch government's anti-terror chief warned that the country remains one of the top targets for Islamic terrorist groups because of publicity surrounding a lawmaker's anti-Islam film.

The National Coordinator for Combating Terrorism said in a report the film "Fitna" by lawmaker Geert Wilders has made the country a "preferred target."

What a stupid statement.

Call it what it is: An averted suicide plane hijacking.

226 loflyer  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:03:32am

Haar, BBL mates, time for breakfast but I have the day off, so I will return after I finished breakfast and a staff meeting. Yo Ho!

227 ArmyWife  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:05:46am

re: #47 zombie

It simply isn't fair, is it? I looked like a tank after I had both my girls. I lost it fairly quickly with the first one (but not as quickly as Sarah!) - I still have a bit of pregnancy weight to lose from the second one. She is now 10.

228 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:05:47am

re: #226 loflyer

Haar, BBL mates, time for breakfast but I have the day off, so I will return after I finished breakfast and a staff meeting. Yo Ho!

Is it still "Talk like a Pirate Day?!"

229 ArmyWife  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:07:14am

Off to work to see how this is affecting our Business Leaders. I predict a stressful day of creating "what if" scenarios....

230 joncelli  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:07:52am

Wet, dark day in the Philly suburbs to go along with today's bad news. I think McCain's gamble got ambushed by the Democrats and now he's got to debate Obambi from a position of weakness. This is only going to make things worse in the polls, too. 39 days until election day, one debate tonight and 4 more to go. I'm not feeling good about this.

231 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:08:02am

re: #228 scottishbuzzsaw

Is it still "Talk like a Pirate Day?!"


Nope, lo just got caught in a Yaaar loop. It will self repeat until his brain reboots.

232 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:09:38am

re: #231 Panhandler

Nope, lo just got caught in a Yaaar loop. It will self repeat until his brain reboots.

Mornin' Panhandler...how are you today?

233 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:11:09am

re: #232 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Panhandler...how are you today?

Just fine maam. The BSA ran like a clock yesterday and I still have money in the bank. Yourself?

234 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:11:28am

Good Morning, Lizard nation.
"Deal or no deal?" Our intrepid leaders are still at it.
Barney Frank & Dodd trying to fix the problem? Like bank robbers installing the new security system.
Schumer said that he thinks that "Over the years, Freddie & Fannie have done a fantastic job!" Honest, he said that.

235 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:13:02am

re: #200 galloping granny

It is exceedingly strange to me how soon so many in the Jewish community have forgotten. I used to be completely unable to comprehend how virtually the entire Jewish community of Europe could fail to see Hitler's grand plans and how that would apply to them, how they could keep passing things off for so long. More recently just how that inability happened has become quite clear.

Before we get too smug here, can anyone remember a couple of salient details that prevented the Jews from getting out of harms way, i.e. most of them didn't have the money to leave, and even if they did, where exactly would they have gone, since most countries - including the United States - would not let them in.

Not to worry, though. You would be surprised how many people in the survivor community have a bag packed, cash (or gold) on hand, passports ready, and dual citizenship - just in case.

236 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:14:22am

re: #233 Panhandler

Just fine maam. The BSA ran like a clock yesterday and I still have money in the bank. Yourself?

Glad you enjoyed your ride...I'm doing well, thank you, but still absorbing the news from yesterday...this roller coaster of an election cycle has me a bit disoriented...otherwise, it's Friday, and that's always a good thing.

237 uptight  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:15:53am
238 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:20:19am

re: #236 scottishbuzzsaw

There is a good chance that things will be hammered out today. The longer the wait, the worse the heartburn. The thinking threads I've been on all night generally reach the conclusion that the Paulson/Dem bailout will not go forth. They say look more for a McCain loan setup with the profits from same going back into the Treasury, and no ACORN gimmie like Reid/Pelosi tried to stick in. Also say goodbye to the student loan/carloan boondoggle and Reid's Oil shale ban.

239 mama winger  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:27:56am

Good morning LGF friends.

I have to get ready for work this morning, but I wanted to drop in for a minute and tell you to watch for an alternative deal on this bail-out thingy.

Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin) is a fantastic fiscal conservative who is working with others like him for an alternative that makes sense. He is ranking minority member on the Finance and Banking Committee. (that may not be the actual official name - I can't recall) He is against this original bailout plan.

Some people ask - who can I trust in Washington ? I trust Paul Ryan. He is a good man, a good representative, a strong conservative family man and a Christian. He even has called me at home when I have had questions or concerns. He was wonderful to me when Little Winger was deployed the first time.

I trust him and if he comes out with a plan I would take a good look at it.

Take a deep breath and have a good day.

240 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:28:25am

FNC has a panel of pundits on right now.
Mark Green of "Air America" said that McCain has no busines coming back to DC because he has missed so many votes during the campaign.
Ed Cox, a McCain state chair, said that the senator is putting country first.
Kirsten Powers, rolled her eyes & said, "Oh please"
Where to begin?

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:30:19am

Not worried. Does anybody have an extra fingernail I can chew?

242 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:32:10am

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not worried. Does anybody have an extra fingernail I can chew?

My dog's nails are in need of a trim...will that do?

243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:32:46am

re: #242 scottishbuzzsaw

Let me think on that. G'morning!

244 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:32:49am

re: #19 Wyatt Earp

This stuff writes itself, don't it?

The owner’s name is Prince Wong? Hmm, I figured it would be King Wang.

LOL. Here I thought it was gonna be about the Presidential race.

245 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:33:49am

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let me think on that. G'morning!

Mornin'...:>)

246 quickjustice  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:34:54am

Cross-posted from an earlier thread:

ACORN is an organized criminal enterprise designed to steal elections through organized fraud. Obama, who is an alumnus of the organization, wants to grow it into a communist "advocacy" group for poor people, supported by taxpayer dollars. In fact, he likely will use ACORN as the foundation for his "community service" mandates for our young people.

Can everyone spell "communist indoctrination" through youth organizations? That's how appalling this proposal is, and the GOP already has set a horrible precedent by agreeing to earlier government payments to ACORN.

247 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:38:07am

re: #240 opnion

FNC has a panel of pundits on right now.
Mark Green of "Air America" said that McCain has no busines coming back to DC because he has missed so many votes during the campaign.
Ed Cox, a McCain state chair, said that the senator is putting country first.
Kirsten Powers, rolled her eyes & said, "Oh please"
Where to begin?

Let me see if I got this right, McCain and Obama campaign and miss votes. FM &FM go belly up, causing a freeze in any kind of credit availability and McCain says he's heading back to get an oar in. Reid says we don't want you here. Obama says that he doesn't see where he can be of any help so he's gong to continue to get ready for the debate but "If you need me, call me." 4 hours later Bush tells Obama "Get your ass back here, you're the titular head of the Democratic Party" They all meet with Bush. McCain defers to Graham since he's been doing all the spadework. Pelosi/Reid pass to Obama who proceeds to turn the meeting into a shouting match. There is some sort of nuance I seem to be missing.

248 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:40:22am

Good interview on FNC with Bill Sammon.
He is saying that the Dems ran to the mics sceaming "We have a deal"
prematurely, only to set up McCain to take the fall.
McCain arrives & volla! No deal.
There never was one ,but now the Dems are saying that the deal that never existed fell apart becuse of McCain.

249 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:41:44am

re: #247 Panhandler

SOMEBODY forgot to ask the conservative Republicans in the House what they thought.

/think Sleeping Beauty and an uninvited witch.
//there's your nuance...

They could have ignored them, taken a vote and won. HOWEVER, if the whole thing was a bust then Republicans could blame Democrats. They need some kind of consensus.

250 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:42:16am

re: #247 Panhandler

Let me see if I got this right, McCain and Obama campaign and miss votes. FM &FM go belly up, causing a freeze in any kind of credit availability and McCain says he's heading back to get an oar in. Reid says we don't want you here. Obama says that he doesn't see where he can be of any help so he's gong to continue to get ready for the debate but "If you need me, call me." 4 hours later Bush tells Obama "Get your ass back here, you're the titular head of the Democratic Party" They all meet with Bush. McCain defers to Graham since he's been doing all the spadework. Pelosi/Reid pass to Obama who proceeds to turn the meeting into a shouting match. There is some sort of nuance I seem to be missing.

I think that you summed it up quite nicely.

251 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:42:55am

re: #248 opnion

Thanks for bringing that up opnion, I knew I'd left something out of my time line in my screed in #247.

252 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:43:57am

re: #240 opnion

The alphabets, the op eds and the front pages all seem to have received the same talking points - I'm guessing from Soros, since he's got the bandwidth - and are in categorical agreement that McCain is the monkeywrench in the deal, that McCain is being a drama queen, that McCain is afraid to debate, and that 0 the Golden Child is showing real presidential leadership with his venal lust for and single minded obsession with power. Haven't we learned from cop dramas that when all the suspects have the identical story, something's up?

253 yesandno  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:45:20am

A=Actual
C=Communist
O=Organization
R=Right
N=Now

254 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:46:38am
255 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:50:33am

re: #252 Pullus Iulius

Put them in seperate sealed rooms for a couple of days and then start asking questions. Use the old trick of "So and So down the hall said you pulled the trigger, this is your only chance to get your side of the story out and save yourself" The "It wasn't me, they set me up!" stories will make for great ad fodder regardless of what the Dems/MSM try to cook up.

256 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:50:49am
257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:52:59am
258 Thoughtcrime  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:53:20am

Here is another winner for you....

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

259 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:55:32am

ACORN is on Fox again. The fraud.

260 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:56:52am

"Obviously ACORN is working on behalf of Barack Obama."

They just said BHO was their chief attorney.

261 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:57:28am

re: #258 Thoughtcrime

Big time winner there. The general populace will look at this and think " What the heck are they trying to cover up?" The concensus will be that while there might an untruth in the mix, what about the truths?

262 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:58:23am

I think in the next month this is gonna be the dirtiest and most despicable election campaign in history. I just hope our side is up to it and has the people and principals ( or lack there of ) to get down and dirty.

263 stevieray  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:58:47am

Gotta run to work, but one quick thought before I go...

The earmark for ACORN is actually great news. The more people know about them, the less people like them. By all means, put them in the news!

I hope Barack is asked about them, and he decides to get clever and claim "attorney-client" privilege... that would be the best thing EVAH!

264 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 4:59:29am

Good morning Lizards........

265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:01:01am

re: #262 Nevergiveup

Well, in all fairness...the country (literally) was under the bus already when the Democrats started this "win at any cost" campaign, (I mean a bus is on the ground). It's just 330 million people they're tossing under it now that bothers me.

266 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:02:18am

Jeiwsh "Rabbi?" meets with the new Hitler:

Our world views are rather different. But unless we... dialogue face to face, how will we create any kind of understanding?" Gottlieb said, adding that she chose to attend because "peace is better than war."

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

"peace is better than war."---Hum, wonder what the souls of Bergen Belsen think of that? What did peace exactly do for them?

267 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:03:03am

re: #265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, in all fairness...the country (literally) was under the bus already when the Democrats started this "win at any cost" campaign, (I mean a bus is on the ground). It's just 330 million people they're tossing under it now that bothers me.

Well that's what I mean. Time to take off the gloves.

268 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:04:29am

IAEA chief: Syrian nuke probe figure killed

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Talk about burying the evidence?

269 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:05:58am

I guess this is what happens when you start seeing patients at 6:00 AM and then take a break. All alone this AM it seems. Well more donuts for me.

270 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:08:02am

re: #251 Panhandler

Thanks for bringing that up opnion, I knew I'd left something out of my time line in my screed in #247.


Your welcome my friend.

271 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:08:12am

re: #269 Nevergiveup

I guess this is what happens when you start seeing patients at 6:00 AM and then take a break. All alone this AM it seems. Well more donuts for me.

Put the box of donuts on the table and back slowly away from them....... ;p

272 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:08:39am

re: #264 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards........

Mornin' dorian...

273 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:09:03am

re: #272 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' dorian...

good morning cuttie pie....

274 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:10:55am

re: #252 Pullus Iulius

The alphabets, the op eds and the front pages all seem to have received the same talking points - I'm guessing from Soros, since he's got the bandwidth - and are in categorical agreement that McCain is the monkeywrench in the deal, that McCain is being a drama queen, that McCain is afraid to debate, and that 0 the Golden Child is showing real presidential leadership with his venal lust for and single minded obsession with power. Haven't we learned from cop dramas that when all the suspects have the identical story, something's up?

I think that you nailed it. The MSM is doing everything to supply the predicate to elect the 'One"
Oh & how about theirony of Dodd acting indignated?

275 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:10:58am

re: #273 doriangrey

good morning cuttie pie....

Well, that'll get you a mug of coffee...;>)

276 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:12:08am

re: #269 Nevergiveup

I guess this is what happens when you start seeing patients at 6:00 AM and then take a break. All alone this AM it seems. Well more donuts for me.


All part of the price you pay to ensure urine samples aren't polluted by coffe/orange juice/ biscuits and garvy and DONUTS. You deserve a cruller, you earned it, now enjoy it, you patients are enjoying theirs.

277 Crux Australis  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:12:26am

Can someone in the United States tell me when Daylight Savings comes to an end there?

What do you call an Aussie Lizard?

278 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:14:07am

re: #276 Panhandler

Garvy? As in Steve? Now I need a doughnut.

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:14:12am

re: #277 Crux Australis

1. I have no idea until I see a reminder somewhere.

2. A friend.

280 yesandno  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:14:46am
281 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:15:05am

re: #277 Crux Australis

Lizard - Mate

282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:15:45am

re: #277 Crux Australis

Can someone in the United States tell me when Daylight Savings comes to an end there?

What do you call an Aussie Lizard?

November 2nd friend.

283 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:17:06am

re: #274 opnion

To be indignant, one must first have dignity. Thus, Dodd is excluded.

284 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:17:18am

re: #277 Crux Australis

Can someone in the United States tell me when Daylight Savings comes to an end there?

What do you call an Aussie Lizard?

A Lizard, All be it an upside down Lizard, but a Lizard none the less... ;)

285 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:19:00am

About time for the AM shift to clock in, if they didn't miss their wake up call.

286 Crux Australis  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:19:08am

If I was to ask Americans which country in the world was most like the US. Would it be Australia? Canada? someone else?

287 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:19:50am

re: #286 Crux Australis

If I was to ask Americans which country in the world was most like the US. Would it be Australia? Canada? someone else?

New Jersey?

288 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:20:16am

Did someone mention donuts?

(opens box of Krispy Kremes) Help yourself.

Dorian, want some coffee?

289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:21:41am
290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:23:38am

re: #288 scottishbuzzsaw

I love donuts. Boston Cremes (Krispy Kremes), Cruellers (Dunkin' Donuts).

291 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:23:52am

re: #288 scottishbuzzsaw

Did someone mention donuts?

(opens box of Krispy Kremes) Help yourself.

Dorian, want some coffee?

Me? coffee? But of course..... /kisses scottishbuzzsaw hand.....

292 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:25:09am

morning lizards, this is becomming a "good" habit and I do have a Krispy Kreeme next to my coffe. Little Baileys in the coffe to lighten the darkness. yummmmm

293 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:25:28am

lost an "e" there huh?

294 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:26:12am

re: #292 ratso

morning lizards, this is becomming a "good" habit and I do have a Krispy Kreeme next to my coffe. Little Baileys in the coffe to lighten the darkness. yummmmm

Thou shalt share thy Baileys or be smitten with a plague of angry Lizards......... ;p

295 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:26:27am

re: #287 Nevergiveup

Haveing visited extensively in both, I'd glady say Australia, except for the gun laws and that doofus driving on the left rule.

296 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:27:19am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I love donuts. Boston Cremes (Krispy Kremes), Cruellers (Dunkin' Donuts).

I'm a native of NH...my SIL is in MA...transplanted to MO during the Patriots/Rams battle...made a bet with SIL that the Rams would win...the prize, a dozen DDs from her, or a dozen KKs from me...I lost and had to overnight the donuts...cost about 10 times more than the donuts themselves...last bet I ever made.

297 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:27:41am

re: #294 doriangrey

Thou shalt share thy Baileys or be smitten with a plague of angry Lizards......... ;p

You tell em dorian - That way my Drambue is safe.

298 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:28:00am

re: #295 Panhandler

Haveing visited extensively in both, I'd glady say Australia, except for the gun laws and that doofus driving on the left rule.

What? Australia has a rule requiring doofus to drive on the left? Well at least you can spot the doofus coming that way.... ;P

299 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:28:19am

...

300 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:28:54am

I would vote Australia here.

301 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:29:53am

Dang, I am up early. O-dark thirty...

302 3 wood  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:30:01am

Good Morning folks.

Prepare for the market to implode today.

I can't believe I am watching this happen before my eyes.

Yesterday we had a bail out deal that seemed to be all but done and the market was rebounding nicely on the basis of that.

Then comes the afternoon meeting at the White House and a train wreck.

This idea by the House Republicans of offering insurance for the mortgages will not work. It is way too late for that. It's like giving a band aid to someone having a heart attack. These banks need these loans off their books now, today. Not insurance, not incentives. There is no time for that to work.

The credit markets are frozen right now, today, and businesses can not get short term financing for their business needs like financing their accounts receivable and inventories. We are damaging our economy billions of dollars a day with this frozen credit.

I look for the DOW to drop below 10,000

I anticipate more banks, and I mean a lot more to go belly up cause of this screwing around in Congress.

If you have a 401K, you just lost another 20% of your savings at least.

I can not find the words to communicate how stunned I am to see this happen.

303 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:30:46am

re: #297 Panhandler

You tell em dorian - That way my Drambue is safe.

People who panhandle can afford Drambue? I guess that government 700 billion dollar bailout must have passed while we were all asleep.... ;P

304 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:31:30am

re: #294 doriangrey

Thou shalt share thy Baileys or be smitten with a plague of angry Lizards......... ;p

Would you pass it along when you're done, darlin'?

305 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:31:32am

re: #301 rawmuse

Dang, I am up early. O-dark thirty...

Hey............No Obama jokes this early in the morning..... ;P Moring rawmuse.... ;)

306 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:31:54am

re: #304 scottishbuzzsaw

Would you pass it along when you're done, darlin'?

Here you go.....

307 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:33:09am

re: #302 3 wood

Yeah, I saw a couple of bankers checking in to a high rise hotel. The clerk asked them "sleeping or jumping?".

308 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:33:21am

Hi 3, looks bad huh? I moved a bunch of stuff from C to GVT yesterday, think it was a good idea.

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:33:36am

re: #301 rawmuse

Raw! From where is your nic quote? Freaking love it!

310 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:33:48am

re: #298 doriangrey

When I'm doing a motordycle tour of any of the British Empire enverons, I put a piece of yellow tape on my right glove. As long as the glove and the yellow line coincide I feel fairly safe. Big panic is traffic pulling out from the right, they're no longer the problem, now it's the left.

311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:34:16am

Mornin' Wood. Got an extra fingernail? I'm going to have to move to my toes. But they are really hard to get into my mouth!

312 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:34:33am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I stole it from Mark Steyn. How are you this morning? Getting some badly needed rain on the East Coast, I hear.

313 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:35:09am

re: #302 3 wood
My thought in this is that the house gop guys are just pushing against the democratic side to make them push the bailout throught, against 55% of the american population. They have the votes to do it but when they do they will get blackeyes.

314 NC State of Mind  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:35:23am

re: #302 3 wood

re: #248 opnion

I share your concern. I just noticed it's about one hour until the bell. #248 above had an interesting perspective from Bill Sammon


Good interview on FNC with Bill Sammon.
He is saying that the Dems ran to the mics sceaming "We have a deal"
prematurely, only to set up McCain to take the fall.
McCain arrives & volla! No deal.
There never was one ,but now the Dems are saying that the deal that never existed fell apart becuse of McCain.

It's no wonder we can't ever have good decisions made in Washington when >50% of brainpower is spent trying to develop a plan that is politically expedient with no regard to solving actual problems.

315 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:35:43am

re: #302 3 wood

Good Morning folks.

Prepare for the market to implode today.

I can't believe I am watching this happen before my eyes.

Yesterday we had a bail out deal that seemed to be all but done and the market was rebounding nicely on the basis of that.

Then comes the afternoon meeting at the White House and a train wreck.

This idea by the House Republicans of offering insurance for the mortgages will not work. It is way too late for that. It's like giving a band aid to someone having a heart attack. These banks need these loans off their books now, today. Not insurance, not incentives. There is no time for that to work.

The credit markets are frozen right now, today, and businesses can not get short term financing for their business needs like financing their accounts receivable and inventories. We are damaging our economy billions of dollars a day with this frozen credit.

I look for the DOW to drop below 10,000

I anticipate more banks, and I mean a lot more to go belly up cause of this screwing around in Congress.

If you have a 401K, you just lost another 20% of your savings at least.

I can not find the words to communicate how stunned I am to see this happen.

It occurred to me yesterday why this is happening. The democrats/traitors have found a way to prevent any future military action by either Bush or McCain as well as finally guarantee a loss in Iraq. They bankrupt the United States which results in a 50 to 70 percent defunding of the US military and blame it all on the Republicans.

316 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:36:03am

re: #302 3 wood

I think I have a firm grip on foreign policy, but I do plead ignorance on money matters. Your perspective on this stuff has always been sound in the past so I tend to listen to your analysis. It was a big disappointment to me also, and I am unsure also how McCain fits into all this. After I am done with work today, I think I will go home to drink-alot!

317 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:36:23am

ok Baileys for everyone, all my favorite people

318 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:37:14am

re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood. Got an extra fingernail? I'm going to have to move to my toes. But they are really hard to get into my mouth!

Funny, I could have sworn I saw both of them there just yesterday.... ;P

319 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:37:48am

re: #310 Panhandler

yes, in London I almost wiped out making a right turn after stop, yikes

320 Crux Australis  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:38:13am

Australia gets it's driving on the left from Britain. Australia's gun laws go back to colonial times when most of the population were convicts. Also since there were a few massacres in Australia involving guns in the '80s and '90s people have been 'gun-shy'.

321 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:39:27am

re: #317 ratso

ok Baileys for everyone, all my favorite people

Yeah, right

322 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:39:35am

Has Wall St. opened yet?

323 Lively  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:39:35am

I think we should be cautious about reaching a "deal" in one or two days. When you're spending $700 billion dollars, it's important to think things all the way through. We should be sending signals to the world/Americans that we will do something to clean this mess up, but we still need to think the whole thing through.

324 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:39:46am

re: #302 3 wood

A hard rain's gonna fall.

325 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:39:58am

re: #322 rawmuse

Has Wall St. opened yet?

no in 45 minutes

326 Lively  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:40:14am

re: #322 rawmuse

Has Wall St. opened yet?

9:00 eastern.

327 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:40:21am

So, we're going to get a sell off? Say it issn't so!

They should have just accepted the clean Paulson plan, at least he knows what he's doing.

/WHERE IS THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN PLAN, WHAT THE [EXPLETIVE DELETED] IS IT?

328 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:40:37am

re: #320 Crux Australis

Australia gets it's driving on the left from Britain. Australia's gun laws go back to colonial times when most of the population were convicts. Also since there were a few massacres in Australia involving guns in the '80s and '90s people have been 'gun-shy'.

Cough cough.... Ya know, I'm a big Rock star in Australia

329 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:40:44am

re: #321 Panhandler
HEY! ya think Rizzo doesn't share his booze?

330 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:40:48am

Good morning, all!

For Dorian and any other lizard needing it:

Coffee and the morning paper.

331 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:41:09am

re: #320 Crux Australis

Australia gets it's driving on the left from Britain. Australia's gun laws go back to colonial times when most of the population were convicts. Also since there were a few massacres in Australia involving guns in the '80s and '90s people have been 'gun-shy'.

My Scottish ancestors were outlawed to Australia in the 1800s when they refused to end a feud with another clan. Finally welcomed back home a few decades ago. On their behalf, thanks for the Aussie welcome!

332 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:41:09am

re: #322 rawmuse

Has Wall St. opened yet?

/50 minutes and it's going to be bad

333 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:41:54am

re: #332 Killian Bundy

/50 minutes and it's going to be bad

You mean my WAMU shares might tank?
/

334 Lively  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:41:58am

BBL

335 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:42:07am

re: #321 Panhandler

Yeah, right

Yup, he's trying to get us all drunk so he can take advantage of the Lady Lizards.... ;O

336 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:42:29am

According to NRO, This was the last press release before Washington Mutual collapsed.

Company ranks in top ten of Hispanic Business’ Diversity Elite and earns perfect score on the Human Rights Campaign’s Corporate Equality Index
SEATTLE, WA (September 24, 2008) – Washington Mutual, Inc. (NYSE:WM), one of the nation’s leading banks for consumers and small businesses, has once again been recognized as a top employer by Hispanic Business magazine and the Human Rights Campaign.

Hispanic Business magazine recently ranked WaMu sixth in its annual Diversity Elite list, which names the top 60 companies for Hispanics. The company was honored specifically for its efforts to recruit Hispanic employees, reach out to Hispanic consumers and support Hispanic communities and organizations.

The Human Rights Campaign, the largest national gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT) civil rights organization, also awarded WaMu its second consecutive 100 percent score in the organization’s 2009 Corporate Equality Index (CEI), which measures progress in attaining equal rights for GLBT employees and consumers. WaMu joins the ranks of 259 other major U.S. businesses that also received top marks in the annual survey. The CEI rated a total of 583 businesses on GLBT-related policies and practices, including non-discrimination policies and domestic partner benefits.

In both surveys, WaMu earned points for competitive diversity policies and programs, including the recently established Latino, African American and GLBT employee network groups, all of which have a corporate executive sponsor and champion.

“Diversity is an integral part of cultivating a welcoming, innovative and dynamic workplace here at WaMu. We are proud to be recognized for the opportunities and benefits we offer to all of our employees, including the specific efforts we have made to engage Hispanics and the GLBT community,” said Steve Rotella, WaMu president and COO. “We are committed to diversity at WaMu and pledge to listen to our customers and work closely with our employees to continue to make progress.”

These two recent honors build upon diversity recognitions WaMu received earlier in 2008. WaMu was named one of 25 Noteworthy Companies by Diversity Inc magazine and one of the Top 50 Corporations for Supplier Diversity by Hispanic Enterprise magazine.

337 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:42:32am

re: #331 scottishbuzzsaw

My Scottish ancestors were outlawed to Australia in the 1800s when they refused to end a feud with another clan. Finally welcomed back home a few decades ago. On their behalf, thanks for the Aussie welcome!

We are probably cousins, mine is the Lawerence clan

338 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:43:16am

re: #330 reine.de.tout

Good morning, all!

For Dorian and any other lizard needing it:

Coffee and the morning paper.

How dare you threaten me with a morning paper.... Thx for the coffee though.... ;)

339 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:43:23am

Gird your loins, this is how the world ends.

340 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:43:44am

re: #336 Peacekeeper

All this at the peril of the fundamentals, perhaps.

341 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:44:09am

re: #302 3 wood

I look for the DOW to drop below 10,000

That's a gimme.

/and that's just for today

342 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:44:29am

Mother, son going to war together
Morrisville outfit faces tour in Iraq

[Link: www.newsobserver.com...]

Poor kid. I guess he is gonna have to be on his best behavior?

343 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:44:49am

re: #337 ratso

We are probably cousins, mine is the Lawerence clan

Well, as long as your not a Murray (spit) we'll get along just fine, cuz!

344 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:44:55am

re: #328 doriangrey

Cough cough.... Ya know, I'm a big Rock star in Australia

What I've never figured out dorian is why you keep tooting your own horn when you play a guitar.

345 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:46:34am

re: #342 Nevergiveup

Mother, son going to war together
Morrisville outfit faces tour in Iraq

[Link: www.newsobserver.com...]

Poor kid. I guess he is gonna have to be on his best behavior?

When Bill went on safari, he always took his gun....
In case of accident he always took his Mum...
And all the children sang...
Hey Buffalo Bill, what did ya kill, Buffalo Bill....
Hey Buffalo Bill, what did ya kill, Buffalo Bill....

346 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:46:39am

re: #344 Panhandler

What I've never figured out dorian is why you keep tooting your own horn when you play a guitar.

OOPS! Forgot the /////!

347 Crux Australis  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:47:44am

I hope against hope that all this doesn't result in an Obama Presidency.

Do American's actually believe that the false messiah will do a better job than McCain?

348 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:47:53am

re: #343 scottishbuzzsaw

ok cuz, I'll put em on my black list

349 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:48:01am

re: #344 Panhandler

What I've never figured out dorian is why you keep tooting your own horn when you play a guitar.

:) California traffic laws.... Man with a fastest Car and the loudest Horn has the right of way..... :)

350 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:48:02am
Washington Mutual, Inc. (NYSE:WM), one of the nation’s leading banks for consumers and small businesses, has once again been recognized as a top employer by Hispanic Business magazine and the Human Rights Campaign.

No hablemos dinero !

351 Crux Australis  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:49:03am

apostrophe ?

352 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:49:09am

re: #347 Crux Australis

I hope against hope that all this doesn't result in an Obama Presidency.

Do American's actually believe that the false messiah will do a better job than McCain?

There is no law in the United States that dictates conscious thought is a requirement to vote. Unfortunately?

353 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:49:10am

re: #333 Nevergiveup

You mean my WAMU shares might tank?
/

Do you own other banks?

/hang on for the ride, it's too late to bail

354 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:49:48am

re: #350 Peacekeeper

no wonder huh?

355 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:49:59am

re: #353 Killian Bundy

Do you own other banks?

/hang on for the ride, it's too late to bail

Actually the Banks own me!

356 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:50:02am

Good morning (I hope)... now here's an interesting rumor...

According to Gingrich and Dick Morris on Hannity and Colmes, McCain has killed the Paulsen bailout and will present his own version, which will require the government to lend, not give the money, and regulations will be reformed and taxes will be loosened to help them pay us back.

Both Gingrich and Morris were giddy. They both said McCain has shown that he will stand up to anyone--including the president--to fight for the country, and he's changed the argument: Now, the Dems support giving a trillion dollars to the Wall Street "fat cats," as they called them over and over, but McCain has refused, in the name of the taxpayer.

Both Gingrich and Morris said that McCain had utterly and totally pwned the Dems, who will be forced to support McCain's plan.

McCain will then go to the public and explain that Obama supported the bailout, but McCain crafted an alternative, despite immense pressure from the president and the Department of the Treasury.

As a bonus, McCain stood up for the conservative wing of the party, not the moderates, as everyone expected him to do. Both Gingrich and Morris said McCain has totally won the argument.

Let's hope it all pans out this way.

Morris said that he's never seen anything like this: McCain, the man of principle, united with the most effective campaigners in the history of American politics.

He was as excited and happy as I've ever seen him.

Is this real or is somebody blowing smoke?

357 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:50:17am

re: #353 Killian Bundy

Do you own other banks?

/hang on for the ride, it's too late to bail

Never dismount your ride in mid Apocalypse...... :P

358 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:50:48am
WaMu joins the ranks of 259 other major U.S. businesses that also received top marks in the annual survey. The CEI rated a total of 583 businesses on GLBT-related policies and practices, including non-discrimination policies and domestic partner benefits.

And my names is Bobby Brown, watch me now I'm goin' down...

359 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:50:48am

re: #314 NC State of Mind

re: #248 opnion

I share your concern. I just noticed it's about one hour until the bell. #248 above had an interesting perspective from Bill Sammon

It's no wonder we can't ever have good decisions made in Washington when >50% of brainpower is spent trying to develop a plan that is politically expedient with no regard to solving actual problems.

To me, it seems like the Dem Party looks at any crisis as a political opening. They engage in wholesale Sophistry, blaming the other guys for their foul ups

360 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:51:00am

Reminder:
Anyone wanting to donate a recipe to the collection of LGF reader recipes that I'm putting together, read about it here!

It would be nice if we were able to get this done by the end of October, in time for Christmas stocking-stuffer time. If you're interested, please consider sending in a couple or three recipes. THANKS.

Oh - a reader told me she is interested in "salmon on a board". If anyone has something describing this process, please submit it!
Again, many thanks.

361 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:51:06am

When Black Friday comes
I'll stand down by the door
And catch the grey men when they
Dive from the fourteenth floor
When Black Friday comes
I'll collect everything I'm owed
And before my friends find out
I'll be on the road
When Black Friday falls you know it's got to be
Don't let it fall on me
When Black Friday comes
I'll fly down to Muswellbrook
Gonna strike all the big red words
From my little black book
Gonna do just what I please
Gonna wear no socks and shoes
With nothing to do but feed
All the kangaroos
When Black Friday comes I'll be on that hill
You know I will

When Black Friday comes
I'm gonna dig myself a hole
Gonna lay down in it 'til
I satisfy my soul
Gonna let the world pass by me
The Archbishop's gonna sanctify me
And if he don't come across
I'm gonna let it roll
When Black Friday comes
I'm gonna stake my claim
I'll guess I'll change my name

362 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:51:11am

re: #349 doriangrey

:) California traffic laws.... Man with a fastest Car and the loudest Horn has the right of way..... :)

Man, trade that Vette in on a Ferrari, get an ascot and you be testifyin

363 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:51:39am

re: #356 Kenneth

Good morning (I hope)... now here's an interesting rumor...


Is this real or is somebody blowing smoke?

Please let it be real...

364 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:52:24am

re: #347 Crux Australis

I hope against hope that all this doesn't result in an Obama Presidency.

Do American's actually believe that the false messiah will do a better job than McCain?

A large amout of Americans think that they have a better chance to seperate you from your money with Obama.

365 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:52:45am

re: #357 doriangrey

Never dismount your ride in mid Apocalypse...... :P

Always good advice...;>)

366 rightymouse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:52:50am

Is there a reason why I can't get to LGF using Internet Explorer? It bombs out. Can only use Firefox.

367 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:53:04am

re: #341 Killian Bundy

Dow will drop below 10,000

/and that's just for today

AIG friend of mine has already lost 450,000 dollars,
40 years of putting her secretary pay into savings.

I worked for AIG for 28 years.

We don't really give a shit where the market goes.

368 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:53:32am

re: #362 Panhandler

Man, trade that Vette in on a Ferrari, get an ascot and you be testifyin

Funny you should say that, there's a Ferrari dealership across the street from our main facility...... ;)

369 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:53:48am

re: #366 rightymouse

Is there a reason why I can't get to LGF using Internet Explorer? It bombs out. Can only use Firefox.

IE is working fine for me...

370 3 wood  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:53:52am

re: #314 NC State of Mind

They had a deal. They just needed a little bit of leadership from people like McCain ans some House Republicans to get it through.

No deal will be perfect, but saving a large part of the financial system beats destroying it.

McCain is going to own this.

This is going to be ugly, and I mean very ugly.

371 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:54:01am

re: #367 ibmkeyboard

AIG friend of mine has already lost 450,000 dollars,
40 years of putting her secretary pay into savings.

I worked for AIG for 28 years.

We don't really give a shit where the market goes.

The old misery likes company argument. Works for me.

372 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:54:03am

re: #356 Kenneth

Real, he laid it out on H&C last night and then Gingrich schooled Colmes on the make up of the US Congress. All in all, a most enjoyable hour.

373 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:54:54am

re: #25 Karridine

Linkie no workie.

374 rightymouse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:55:16am

re: #369 scottishbuzzsaw

IE is working fine for me...

IE says it can't open the website and gives an operation aborted message.

375 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:55:33am

I think McCain's ploy is also political trickery. The left can pass what ever they want and they want the republicans to be on board so that they are all hated by the populace.

376 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:55:53am

re: #370 3 wood

This is going to be ugly, and I mean very ugly.

No, it is not going to be that pretty..... Today is going to be Black Friday in spades.....

377 Crux Australis  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:56:04am

It seems that the Aussie Media are just as biased as the MSM in the US.

I'm glad I've got LGF and HotAir and others to keep me informed.

378 3 wood  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:56:21am

re: #315 doriangrey

T

he democrats/traitors have found a way to prevent any future military action by either Bush or McCain as well as finally guarantee a loss in Iraq. They bankrupt the United States which results in a 50 to 70 percent defunding of the US military and blame it all on the Republicans.

I respectfully don't think so.

I think we have bonfire of the vanities going on in Washington, and the country's economy is caught in the middle.

379 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:56:28am

USA Today has a real fair front page article by two staffers.
Writing about yesterday, "But the good feelings seemed to evaporate about the time a new player entered the fray: Arizona Senator John McCain......"

380 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:56:32am

re: #367 ibmkeyboard
I am sorry, and angry to hear that. I don't have an answer- a lot of people saved their money and in the end the fucking crooks found a way to steal all the same.

381 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:57:15am

In northern CA it was not uncommon for a lender to give a home buyer a 100 percent loan, then the borrower would occupy the home, a year later they take out a 2nd mortgage, in cash, in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. At that point the homeowner took off with the money.

To Mexico.

382 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:57:28am

re: #370 3 wood

Own as in McCain screwed the pooch "owned", or own as in McCain/Graham spanked the Dems "owned"?

383 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:57:44am

re: #379 opnion

USA Today has a real fair front page article by two staffers.
Writing about yesterday, "But the good feelings seemed to evaporate about the time a new player entered the fray: Arizona Senator John McCain......"

Good, there should never have been any good feelings about what they were trying to do.

384 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:58:26am

re: #371 Nevergiveup

The old misery likes company argument. Works for me.

Anybody want to buy a keyboard?

385 3 wood  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:06am

re: #316 Nevergiveup

It was a big disappointment to me also, and I am unsure also how McCain fits into all this. After I am done with work today, I think I will go home to drink-alot!

McCain came in to look like the maverick and come up with a "different solution at the last second, and screwed this up.

I'm not a politician, I'm an economist.

This is no time for politics, we are on the edge of economic melt down here with the credit markets. That does not just impact fat cats on Wall Street, it effects everyone on Main Street.

386 doriangrey  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:10am

Well time to run off to work, somebody has to pay for the democrat/socialists/communist criminal spending....

387 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:20am

I don't even have the energy to fire up my trading software and start short selling.

/it would be unpatriotic and unsavory, I'll make money later, it's always there

388 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:21am

re: #330 reine.de.tout

Good morning, all!

Good morning, reine! How are you today?

389 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:25am

Wall Street opening in 3 minutes. I have no doubt this is Black Friday.

If the word was there was no deal yet but they were working on it and progress was being made, I wouldn't be too concerned. But the confused news that is coming out is going to create a panic. Both sides are blaming the other. It's scary as hell.

390 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:40am

re: #380 Peacekeeper

I am sorry, and angry to hear that. I don't have an answer- a lot of people saved their money and in the end the fucking crooks found a way to steal all the same.

If I could get my hands around Barney Franks neck,

Ahhhh- the pleasure.

391 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:41am

re: #378 3 woodI think that the Giant McCain ego road in and in perfect McCain fashion it will be done his way or not at all.

392 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:44am

re: #386 doriangrey
seeya dorian

393 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 5:59:47am

re: #386 doriangrey

Well time to run off to work, somebody has to pay for the democrat/socialists/communist criminal spending....

Have a good one, dorian...

394 3 wood  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:00:33am

re: #382 Panhandler

Own as in McCain screwed the pooch "owned", or own as in McCain/Graham spanked the Dems "owned"?

"Owned as in screwed the pooch,"owned" as in stepped on his crank with track shoes, "owned" as in caused a train wreck.

395 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:00:59am

re: #383 doriangrey

Good, there should never have been any good feelings about what they were trying to do.


Right, but the logic can give you a head ache. On the one hand McCain gets crticised for saying very little. On the other hand he gets blamed for trashing the deal.

396 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:02:15am

re: #376 doriangrey

No, it is not going to be that pretty..... Today is going to be Black Friday in spades.....

Why does this shit always happen on Friday?

397 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:02:37am

re: #396 ibmkeyboard

Why does this shit always happen on Friday?

So it can ruin my weekend.

398 kawfytawk  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:02:41am

re: #360 reine.de.tout

reine....will you put me on the list for the LGF cookbook?

399 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:03:17am

re: #396 ibmkeyboard

Why does this shit always happen on Friday?

Otherwise it's a slow news day.

400 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:03:49am

Well, history will be made today. Hang on for the ride.

401 lori lane  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:04:51am

re: #347 Crux Australis

I hope against hope that all this doesn't result in an Obama Presidency. Do American's actually believe that the false messiah will do a better job than McCain?

All the stupid ones do.

402 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:04:53am

re: #397 Nevergiveup

So it can ruin my weekend.

a little humor. ha.

some people will get arrested for public drunkenness.

stay off of tall buildings.

403 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:05:06am

the problem I see, or lack of thought process, in the obama supporters (my brother for instance) is the following "he's got to be better that what we have" now this financial crisis plays right into the hand of this thought. "republican president? all his fault! republican= all thats bad" they conviently forget the dem controlled congress and other influences.when you ask the ones with this thought process, but maybe it could be worse under obam? answer..."how can it get worse!" well it can, and obama will show the way. now taking my brother, makes a 6 digit salary,and he thinks obama is going to treat him better?..lol..I'm working on him though, he is a vietnam era Marine, so at least I got him to admit that he has great respect for McCain. My current mind meld on him now is I tell him under obama his beloved Marine Corps will be a shell of its former self. trying to flank him on that angle..lol

404 Irish Rose  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:05:25am

Good morning, lizards.

An interesting day on tap, I think.

405 UFO TOFU  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:05:32am

Crap, 3 wood, it's Friday. Tell us something good.

/ I'm not even checking into the WaMu thread downstairs.

406 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:06:32am

re: #388 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, reine! How are you today?

Good morning! I hope this day finds you well.
We have some cooler, drier weather here, it's been marvelous!

I'm doing fine, trying to drum up interest and recipe donations for the reader's cookbook

Marketing not my strength.

407 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:06:33am

re: #372 Panhandler

Let's pray it passes. Then we cana all laugh as Obama jumps up and down and squeals "Me too, me too... it was my idea, McCain stole my idea!"

408 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:06:50am

re: #394 3 wood

"Owned as in screwed the pooch,"owned" as in stepped on his crank with track shoes, "owned" as in caused a train wreck.

It may be he sees himself as swooping in at the last moment to turn things around, like Superman.

409 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:07:26am

re: #394 3 wood

"Owned as in screwed the pooch,"owned" as in stepped on his crank with track shoes, "owned" as in caused a train wreck.

I am not a huge McCain fan, but I can't see how he srewed up the deal.
Rank & File Republicans were not going to accept the deal that the leadership struck, in a seperate room, with or without McCain.
Just one example, the Republicans were not going to stand for a lot of cash going to ACORN.

410 FamHistoryGuy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:07:28am

re: #366 rightymouse

Could not get on at all earlier. Kept timing out. So spent an hour visiting other sites.

All this DC *rap has put me back in my 1973 attitude towards congress.

411 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:08:26am

re: #402 ibmkeyboard

a little humor. ha.

some people will get arrested for public drunkenness.

stay off of tall buildings.

stay out from underneath tall buildings :(

412 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:08:37am

re: #379 opnion

"McCain spoiled it" is the DNC party line this morning. Which is why it's showing up word-for-word in all the MSM op-ed pieces this morning.

413 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:09:26am

re: #404 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.

An interesting day on tap, I think.


You got that right.

414 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:09:41am

I don't know what to believe anymore, and that's what's terrifying. On one hand I hear McCain did very little, on the other I hear that he's offering alternative plans and playing politics. On one hand I hear the Democrats are to blame, on the other I hear that Republicans are. On one hand I hear there was a deal all ready to go, on the other hand I hear there never was any deal. The rumors are flying fast and furious and this very fact in itself is going to shatter investor confidence.

Black Friday.

415 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:10:20am

re: #406 reine.de.tout

Good morning! I hope this day finds you well.
We have some cooler, drier weather here, it's been marvelous!

I'm doing fine, trying to drum up interest and recipe donations for the reader's cookbook

Marketing not my strength.

It's been cooler and drier here too...delightful!

And you're doing just fine with the marketing! I think many are just a wee tad distracted with the financial news...I'm hanging on to Kenneth's #356 myself...

416 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:10:41am

Short the Dow ETF.

/if you want to add to the problem

417 realwest  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:10:51am

Well good morning all y'all - from a chilly (62 degrees which is our projected high for today) and very rainy
Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

418 opnion  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:11:00am

re: #412 Kenneth

"McCain spoiled it" is the DNC party line this morning. Which is why it's showing up word-for-word in all the MSM op-ed pieces this morning.

Thats it. "Why did he come if he didn't want to say anything?"
Then, "McCain screwed the deal"
His silence must have been crazy passive aggresive & they all got scared?

419 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:11:10am

re: #405 UFO TOFU

The Port Authority is promising to have the 9/11 memorial open by the 10th anniversary of the terrorist attacks.

420 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:11:31am

re: #370 3 wood

They had a deal. They just needed a little bit of leadership from people like McCain ans some House Republicans to get it through.

No deal will be perfect, but saving a large part of the financial system beats destroying it.

McCain is going to own this.

This is going to be ugly, and I mean very ugly.

Unless, the rumour turns out to be true that McCain has put together an alternative deal that puts the cost of the bailout on Wall Street, not on the taxpayer. If that works, McCain is the hero. Not that the media will mention it.

421 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:11:50am

re: #408 Peacekeeper

It may be he sees himself as swooping in at the last moment to turn things around, like Superman.

/where are the superpowers?

422 rightymouse  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:11:55am

re: #410 FamHistoryGuy

Could not get on at all earlier. Kept timing out. So spent an hour visiting other sites.

All this DC *rap has put me back in my 1973 attitude towards congress.

I was having net problems anyway and thought that was it - but I pretty much solved those issues and it's flying this morning. No problems with other sites using IE. Had to use Firefox to get here. Am still at home right now and not sure if my office will let me use Firefox if IE still has issues.

The DC stuff is very scary and it's like putting the foxes in charge of the hen house.

423 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:12:08am

You're about to see what happens when you put your faith in the Princes of the Earth...

424 kawfytawk  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:12:13am

re: #409 opnion

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but what/who are the sources that say big bucks were going to ACORN?

425 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:12:27am

re: #417 realwest

Well good morning all y'all - from a chilly (62 degrees which is our projected high for today) and very rainy
Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Mornin' Studmuffin...doing pretty well here...how's about yourself?

426 kawfytawk  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:13:00am

re: #415 scottishbuzzsaw

mornin, scottish :O)

427 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:13:06am

re: #421 Killian Bundy

/where are the superpowers?

Jump off the roof first, organize a vote on the way down. More dramatic that way....

428 ratso  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:13:20am

re: #417 realwest
Hiya RW, good to seeya

429 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:13:29am

re: #82 Killgore Trout

Video: Visiting pastor prays over Palin for protection from witchcraft

I'm still on dial up so I can't watch.

Naomh Pádraig, aka Saint Patrick, Bishop of Armagh and Enlightener of Ireland (the green beer guy) prayed for protection from witches.

430 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 26, 2008 6:13:29am

re: #420 Kenneth

Unless, the rumour turns out to be true that McCain has put together an alternative deal that puts the cost of the bailout on Wall Street, not on the taxpayer. If that works, McCain is the hero. Not that the media will mention it.

/WHERE THE [EXPLETIVE DELETED] IS IT?