Favorite line...McCain

There are advantages to having experience and knowledge.

oh fucking no. biden

Biden is on NBC right now.

McCain WINS!

Great Debate. Glad I watched it.

I do like the Fox roundtable much better than most.

Holy crap....Obama is a lightweight!

He's a frikken joke!

re: #3 HelloDare

Biden is on NBC right now.

Back away from the TV....

Well that was enlightening. Longest I have listened to BHO talk. If that's what you can call it. Does this mean the hamsters will get a break now?

/I think I was two threads behind at one point.

I want to see how the MSM spins that, yet I just can't bring myself to turn the TV on.

I'd like to congratulate the m'fer who kept me from getting in until now. Well played. You SOB.

Juan Williams and I watched different debates.

Obama did well. McCain did well.

I call it a tie.

Big surprise!

The African American lady on Fox plays the veiled racism card immediately.

Because McCain was smarter, thus he is a racist.

re: #4 flynmudd

McCain WINS!

I certainly wouldn't call it a knockout. I think McCain started out so-so on the economic side, then warmed up. He needs work though; for one thing, needs to look at Obama when going after him.

Biden is making less sense than Obama.

Oh, Jeez! It was awful!

re: #7 DesertSage

Holy crap....Obama is a lightweight!

He's a frikken joke!

We're being punk'd...by the Clintons.

nobody believed that biden. you idiot

My fater in Kenya

/yeah, let's look into that, rumor has it he was a full bore communist

re: #16 HelloDare

Biden is making less sense than Obama.

I sense some more YouTube fodder coming...

Some guy in a blue turbin is in the background at Fox News right n--- oh, they've cut away to another place. Dern.

McCain- experience we can trust.

0bama- not ready for prime time.

re: #14 Sifty

Big surprise!

The African American lady on Fox plays the veiled racism card immediately.

Because McCain was smarter, thus he is a racist.

Huh? Who are you talking about?

A garden variety CEO would've done far better than both of them.

gah

Poll up on Drudge Report right now. McCain up 3 to 1...

i thought McCain looked presidential, and he came across as loaded with experience whereas Obama has learned everything from talking points.

I just wish McCain would have cut Obama off a few times when Obama kept interrupting.

Obama acted childish, frankly I thought McCain won the debate handily in the eye of the public. i'm sure the MSM will gloat over how Obama held his own.

LOL, one of my facebook contacts status message is "Watching Obama out debate McCain". :)

/he's an NDP supporter, and probably a closet communist.

major Garrett, trapped in past? a plus for Obama. i didn't know what to say about georgia Obama?

Now, President Clinton needs to make a little comment that cleverly pities Barry's performance and makes Barry look totally lost and clueless.

re: #1 jorline

Favorite line...McCain

There are advantages to having experience and knowledge.

I dont have a presidential seal................

re: #22 NomadOfNorad

Some guy in a blue turbin is in the background at Fox News right n--- oh, they've cut away to another place. Dern.

We need to harness turbin power for energy independence.

I think McCain womped him. I believe I just watched a perfect example of why they call him a "straight talker", and I liked what I heard.

re: #20 Killian Bundy

/yeah, let's look into that, rumor has it he was a full bore communist

Communists...domestic terrorists...slum lords. They're all cool, man. It's about diversity....

Too make it worse... Watched it at a friends house, who's MOONBAT son was there. Defining rich. HUGE ARGUMENT!

I basically toasted him and his moonbat girl-friend (he's gay, so I don't know how to type that)...

FUCKING HATE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN INCOME REDISTRIBUTION!

McCain finished strong but came off as "crotchity" in the beginning. IMO

re: #13 Racer X

Obama did well. McCain did well.

I call it a tie.

You're kidding, right?

Biden = stream of non sequitur

re: #28 alien_mind

i thought McCain looked presidential, and he came across as loaded with experience whereas Obama has learned everything from talking points.

I just wish McCain would have cut Obama off a few times when Obama kept interrupting.

Obama acted childish, frankly I thought McCain won the debate handily in the eye of the public. i'm sure the MSM will gloat over how Obama held his own.

he did seem boyish.

re: #33 Occasional Reader

We need to harness turbin power for energy independence.

ROFL! Good one!

o , the spin will kill me. , well maybe not, i'll just have a nice glass of wine

According to Major Garrett of Fox, the Obama camp believes that McCain hearkened back to t he past with his references to his experience, while Obie is the candidate for the future.

re: #36 fat bastard vegetarian

Too make it worse... Watched it at a friends house, who's MOONBAT son was there. Defining rich. HUGE ARGUMENT!

I basically toasted him and his moonbat girl-friend (he's gay, so I don't know how to type that)...

FUCKING HATE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN INCOME REDISTRIBUTION!

Maybe he's bi.

I think the funniest thing that was said was when McCain said "I don't have a presidential seal yet..." Not that anyone that watches the MSM media would get that dig but... funny to those of us who know.

Listening to Obama points

-McCain trapped in the past...eg...referring to Kissinger, except that it was Obama who first mentioned Kissinger.

It was Obama who dwelled on his initial resistance to the Iraq War.

Obama doesn't have enough leadership skills to lead a kindergarten class to lunch!

McCain's refrain was "I have a long record"

re: #39 HelloDare

Biden = stream of non sequitur

that's what happens when your brain has to send signals to your mouth via the colon

Well, I now know I'll have to watch any future debates by myself.

The fam is annoyed by my (uncharacteristic) outbursts. Anyone else find themselves yelling at their TV every few minutes?

re: #15 Occasional Reader

McCain hammered him on $900m in earmarks and $800b in new spending. Obambi couldn't name a single thing to cut, just the obligatory vague promise to cut failed programs. When's the last time he ever voted against pork or offered up a program to cut?

re: #37 Racer X

McCain finished strong but came off as "crotchity" in the beginning. IMO

I was worried in the first few minutes, after that...

Any way to watch this debate online post facto? Cannot get american TV here, and I missed it when the live stream was up.

for those of you scoring at home, congratulations, it's early...

I much prefer McCain's performance, needless to say, but I have no idea how the debate is coming across to the millions of undecided voters.

CHARLES HAS BEEN FU**ED BY THE INTERNET GNOMES TONIGHT.

thus

I HAVE BEEN F*CKED BY THE INTERNET GNOMES TONIGHT.

re: #40 spidly

he did seem boyish.

Racist!

/

8 times Obama said, well i agree with McCain , but. hmm. so i have to steal McCains thoughts and use them for me, me , me

re: #39 HelloDare

Biden = stream of non sequitur

I noticed that. I guess he felt that he had to get those talking point in any way that he could.

re: #25 DeliLama

A garden variety CEO would've done far better than both of them.

There weren't any garden variety CEOs running for President, though, were there? :P :D

I loved how McCain was quite detailed when discussing the Caucuses, and all barry could do was agree with McCain.

Vote in the Drudge poll.

Oh man, that was brutally gorgeous...shit was INTENSE son! McCain had a few moments where he fell back on lame talking points, and Obama got some good jabs in at the beginning, but McCain just rolled over the 2nd half like he was in an M1A2.

Obama's inexperience really showed through when the subject fell on Russia.

I went through a whole bag of popcorn and a quarter pound of peanut butter M&Ms watching the live-stream.

It's a shame that trying to talk to anyone else my age about the debate, all I got back was "politics is boring".

re: #50 SummerSong

Well, I now know I'll have to watch any future debates by myself.

The fam is annoyed by my (uncharacteristic) outbursts. Anyone else find themselves yelling at their TV every few minutes?

Yeah, at that sniveling snot weasel.

re: #53 000G

Any way to watch this debate online post facto? Cannot get american TV here, and I missed it when the live stream was up.

CSPAN usally keeps an archive/

sooooo?

re: #38 Sharmuta

You're kidding, right?

No.

I was a little disappointed in how McCain came across in the beginning. A little arrogant. He needs to lighten up and relax. Also I thought he needed to speak TO Obama more - not to Jim Lehrer.

re: #25 DeliLama

A garden variety CEO would've done far better than both of them.

You know, I've been noticing that for quite some time. I have heard far better speakers in the business world.

I had to turn off CSPAN when the Obama spinmeister came on. Watching last night's Survivor now.

"Senator Obama just doesn't understand that [pick any topic]."
-McCain

re: #56 fat bastard vegetarian

CHARLES HAS BEEN FU**ED BY THE INTERNET GNOMES TONIGHT.

thus

I HAVE BEEN F*CKED BY THE INTERNET GNOMES TONIGHT.

Oh, was that what it was?

Daaaannnnnngggg!

re: #49 spidly

that's what happens when your brain has to send signals to your mouth via the colon

His plugs are short-circuiting.

re: #32 doriangrey

I dont have a presidential seal................

That was my second...great remark, but the one that hit home and scored points was the advantages.

"i Have a bracelet too,," THAT was a sneer at McCain's genuine, heartfelt concern for American soldiers,,I hate zerobama even more than ever,,

I score it

Obama Round 1
McCain Round 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Although both did OK, no screw ups, no sound bites to nail them later. McCain alittle slow at first but fluid and facile as he moved along.

re: #51 MJBrutus

McCain hammered him on $900m in earmarks and $800b in new spending. Obambi couldn't name a single thing to cut, just the obligatory vague promise to cut failed programs. When's the last time he ever voted against pork or offered up a program to cut?

You're talking about substance, I'm talking about how I think it will be seen... who "won" the debate point in terms of political advantage. I think McCain "won" slightly overall, but lost (on points, not KO) in the first round. He sounded too scattered at first.

The proper way to watch Sen. Biden on TV:

/not really

Barry smirked and scowled a lot - he did some rude interrupting and got a "one person at a time comment" from Mr. Lehrer.

I don't know if anyone will remember that, but they may have a "he's rude and snarky" thing in the back of their minds.

McCain always looks like a straight talker and in-charge guy.

Barry looks like a naive whippersnapper with a 'tude.

miscellaneous verbiage...

McCain wiped his ass

Who won? Drudge online poll...[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

re: #61 Sharmuta
yeah His, "i agree" with Most of everything McCain says, but i think I really said it first in my dream last night, so i was right first"

re: #50 SummerSong

Well, I now know I'll have to watch any future debates by myself.

The fam is annoyed by my (uncharacteristic) outbursts. Anyone else find themselves yelling at their TV every few minutes?

yes i yelled many times.

re: #48 Dar ul Harb

Which is a good one. His record shows that he is not a clone of Bush as O-ba-ba-ba-ma keeps trying to say. It also shows that he has been against earmarks and for reduced government. It backs up what he's saying, unlike Hussein, who's rhetoric is all BS.

wow, over the last couple years I have been just getting into politics at 21 years of age now, so this is really the first presidential debate that Ive gotten into.

McCain kicked royal butt; and it was great. Just keeeep talking McCain.

Palin is now icing on the cake for me.

re: #50 SummerSong

I find myself wanting to debate Obama. Oh the fun I would have because I don't need to keep political friends at the end of it! Plus it would be cool to say "My A&M degree just kicked your Ivy League Arse!"

re: #57 Joe Six Pack

Racist!

/

sorry, youre right....good argument...hope....change ...pull lever for messiah

Obama's best line....." I have a bracelet too"

Yes, LGF has been extremely slow for me tonight. It's normally fast.

LOL first mccain ad already out:

McCain already has an ad out from the debate. It's all Obama saying "I agree with McCain..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3aC8ZJZTc

Nah, this is a McCain win, for sure. My reasons:

1) He spoke with authority on the economy, which was supposed to be his "weak suit"

2) He spoke with experience in warfare, which Obama is woefully ignorant of.

3) He put out his record for all to see of his disagreements with Bush

4) He kept his calm every time Obama interrupted him, numerous times

5) Obama looked aggressive the whole debate, and did not keep his facial language cool. McCain did.

6) McCain finished strong, Obama did not.

And consider: this was after Obama had spent a few days down in Florida preparing for this debate, while McCain had no time to do so.

So the next debate that comes up - a townhall event down here in Nashville - McCain will clean Obama's clock.

I had a lot of trouble logging in tonight - we you hacked, Charles?

re: #67 Racer X

No.

I was a little disappointed in how McCain came across in the beginning. A little arrogant.

Of course, one tends not to notice while McCain is standing next to the supernova of arrogance.

The numbers on the Drudge poll haven't changed in quite a while.

re: #58 willowone

8 times Obama said, well i agree with McCain , but. hmm. so i have to steal McCains thoughts and use them for me, me , me

That's what I noticed too. Obama said at least five or six times "I agree with John" and "like John said.."

re: #63 GM_Yitzhak

It's a shame that trying to talk to anyone else my age about the debate, all I got back was "politics is boring".

If too many people think like that, we're screwed.

McCain missed the correct answer to the question of "due to economic conditions, what would you have to give up or change?"

In McCain's case, the correct answer is NOTHING.
McCain is proposing no new spending, and his tax plan allows "big oil" and/or "big business" to actually begin building new job-creating projects, creating a lot of jobs as a result.
His "cut earmarks and spending" plan is necessary for either an improving or a declining economy.

Barry, uh, er, well, uh, ah, that is, a few programs, er, well, ...

Three days of debate preparation for that?

/debate over, candidates exchange greetings, Obama politely asks for his ass back, McCain hands it to him

Lindsey Graham is practically crying tears of pride for his friend.
I thought McCain actually won.

I'm watching FOXNews right now. I think Lindsey Graham is gay for McCain. SRSLY.

I'm back from the overstaffed Republican booth at the county fair, proudly wearing my new pink McCain Palin t-shirt! I also scored a yard sign -- you wouldn't believe the crowd of people snapping them up. So, how did it go?

wow. how fucking cool is this

way OT but just too cool

re: #75 Right Brain

Although both did OK, no screw ups, no sound bites to nail them later.

Although I think the closest to a KO blow was scored by McCain, with his incredulous "so let me get this straight, we sit down with Ahmadinejad and he says wipe Israel out and we say, no, don't" zinger.

re: #87 Zim

Obama's best line....." I have a bracelet too"

ME TOO! ME TOO!

Tom Friedman in the tank for Obama on ABC. I've spent some time with him, and if the truth doesn't fit in his agenda or view of history, he will just sluff it off.

Well, Intrade has McCain up 3.8% and I tend to believe those who put their $$$ on the line.

Have not had any problems with LGF lately.

Until...

Tonight!

re: #88 Ward Cleaver

Yes, LGF has been extremely slow for me tonight. It's normally fast.

yes ward, gotta donate for more squirrle food

re: #87 Zim

Yeah, but I have to look down so I can read the name, because you know, I don't care enough to have committed that little detail to memory.

re: #101 doppelganglander

I'm back from the overstaffed Republican booth at the county fair, proudly wearing my new pink McCain Palin t-shirt! I also scored a yard sign -- you wouldn't believe the crowd of people snapping them up. So, how did it go?

Good.
LGF choked up, though.

re: #80 kevinmumaw
Done. And it currently say McCain 73% to Obama 25%
---

How many times did I hear Obama say "I agree with John(and Tom)"?

re: #89 h0mi

LOL first mccain ad already out:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I am picturing McCain backstage at the debate putting that together on a laptop computer.

LOL!

I can't believe McCain didn't pounce on Obama's last comments about how no one in the world sees America like they used to. Another "America is a mean nation" insinuation.

Then why are they still emigrating here? Why are they sneaking into our country? Why does every nation copy our every cultural trend?

Obama won the day in the first part of the debate on economics. He spoke clearly.

McCain wiped the floor with Obama on foreign policy.

It was not a tie, McCain wins in a 15 round TKO.

No polls will change. McCain needs to win the debate about economics.
Obama left himself open a couple of times, and McCain could have eviserated him. Missed.

re: #101 doppelganglander

I'm back from the overstaffed Republican booth at the county fair, proudly wearing my new pink McCain Palin t-shirt! I also scored a yard sign -- you wouldn't believe the crowd of people snapping them up. So, how did it go?

what state?

Obama came off as a teen ager against a professor.

It will be interesting to fact check all the lies Obamatanic spouted.

Remember, he is a street agitator.

Wanna bet all the "professional debate experts" who are quoted in the NYT and other MSM outlets in the coming days claim that Obama "won" this debate "on points?"

I got five on it. ;-)

re: #50 SummerSong

I'm surprised my neighbors didn't call the police and complain from all the yelling.

By the way, last night I broke down and succumbed to the nagging update icon by installing XP SP3.

/no problems so far

re: #104 Ward Cleaver

ME TOO! ME TOO!

I'm surprised Obama didn't pull his pants down to reveal a tattoo on his rear-end in tribute to our troops...

re: #67 Racer X

No.

I was a little disappointed in how McCain came across in the beginning. A little arrogant. He needs to lighten up and relax. Also I thought he needed to speak TO Obama more - not to Jim Lehrer.

After everything the dems have done in the last 24 hours to smear him about the issue concerning the bailout- I don't blame him for being a bit pissy.

re: #89 h0mi

LOL first mccain ad already out:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

How did they do that so fast ........I like it. Go John. I just wish at the end he would have asked Obama if he was running for president of the world.

McCain came across as presidential. Obama did not. Forget about adding up individual points in a partisan context, the man who is already fit for the job is right here, and he was the elder statesman tonight.

re: #106 rednaxela

Well, Intrade has McCain up 3.8% and I tend to believe those who put their $$$ on the line.

VERY interesting.

re: #108 turn

that's sf you dunb ass.

wow what a wipe out

The best moment was two actually.
The seal dig was one.
But even better when McCain said so you are going to meet with Iran and when they say we are going to blow up Israel, you just say ...no you're not..oh please

LOL

re: #108 turn

yes ward, gotta donate for more squirrle food

If you think this was slow, you should have seen Powerline...impossible.

re: #100 RJ77

I'm watching FOXNews right now. I think Lindsey Graham is gay for McCain. SRSLY.

I think Lindsay Graham is just gay. NTTAWWT.

re: #90 bnichols10

McCain already has an ad out from the debate. It's all Obama saying "I agree with McCain..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3aC8ZJZ Tc

omg... Brilliant.

Geez, Lindsey Graham. I voted against that mofo in the primary. He makes me wish Strom Thurmond was still alive so that Graham would be doing real estate closings or whatever.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Hit cnn's poll too. The moonbats are.

Sorry;

I don't think this debate moved anything. For those stupid enough to truly still be "independent," even though he is full of shit, I do believe Obama "held his own" to the (below) average observer.

McCain already has a new ad, and I saw this one coming.

Obama kept saying McCain was right. Thanks, Barry.

And not once did McCain even pay him the same compliment, because he doesn't deserve it. Obama came off whiny and amateurish.

Of course, by tomorrow 99% of the media will all agree Obama won by knockout..

Logging off. Good night, everyone.

Just got the text from McCain - he is going back to Washington.

I wonder what the Frank Luntz focus group will have to say? (Assuming he has one set up for this...)

Krauthammer, saying Obama held his own and so "won in a sense".

re: #85 ArmyWife

I find myself wanting to debate Obama. Oh the fun I would have because I don't need to keep political friends at the end of it! Plus it would be cool to say "My A&M degree just kicked your Ivy League Arse!"

LOL It would be very cool. I have actually dreamed of debating Obama. Since it was my dream, I kicked his ass but good. :)

re: #124 Occasional Reader

What I want to know is if Fannie & Freddie put any money on the line. You know, that Fannie & Freddie.

I wish Sen. McCain would say Jimmy Carter every time he was compared to Bush.

re: #94 rw in san diego

The numbers on the Drudge poll haven't changed in quite a while.

Not scientific. How many average moonbats visit drudge?

re: #112 Racer X

Oh wow. That McCain, he's so old he doesn't know how to use the internet/ LOL.
Nobody is saying "old" tonite

re: #115 PAgirlinNC

Cobb County, Georgia. It's a very red county; the Democrats' booth was pretty lonely and even the Libertarians were doing better. Had a great time and got an invite to see the Palin-Biden debate on a 52 inch flat screen TV.

re: #121 Sharmuta

After everything the dems have done in the last 24 hours to smear him about the issue concerning the bailout- I don't blame him for being a bit pissy.

I was actually yelling at the TV for McCain to name names in the bailout fiasco. He should have mentioned all of the pork spending the democrats attached to the bill yesterday.

Missed opportunity.

re: #132 astronmr20

Sorry;

I don't think this debate moved anything. For those stupid enough to truly still be "independent," even though he is full of shit, I do believe Obama "held his own" to the (below) average observer.

I don't. I think McCain scored big by repeatedly saying he'd control spending- it's a winner. He backed it up by saying look at the records- that was huge. People who agree spending must be reigned in and who take the time to look at the records will move to McCain.

re: #131 Sharmuta

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Hit cnn's poll too. The moonbats are.

where's the poll?

ack damn it Krauthammer! quit that

re: #131 Sharmuta

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Hit cnn's poll too. The moonbats are.

Don't expect that poll to go up for McCain Obama texted all his people to watch the debate on CNN.

McCain wiped the floor with Obama on foreign relations. I missed the part on economics. But I certainly would never agree with Obama on anything to do with economics anyway, so I didn't really miss anything.

CNN has Joe Biden on.. prepare to reset the gaffe count

Charles Krauthammer keeps calling Obama "elegant" ... WTF?

re: #119 Killian Bundy

By the way, last night I broke down and succumbed to the nagging update icon by installing XP SP3.

/no problems so far

I actually updated to XP SP3 weeks ago. Haven't had problems y@#$%^&*(~`!)@(#*$%^
NO CARRIER

re: #144 Racer X

I was actually yelling at the TV for McCain to name names in the bailout fiasco. He should have mentioned all of the pork spending the democrats attached to the bill yesterday.

Missed opportunity.

Look, the deal's not done yet. Nobody can go around calling out the Democrats right yet. Patience, grasshopper.

I thought McCain started slow, but finished very strong. I wanted to see McCain hit Obama with his donations from Fanny Mae, Freddy Mac and Lehman Brothers.

I wanted McCain to clearly show that Obama is part of the problem, not part of the solution for the future of America.

re: #146 spidly

Scroll down the page a bit- it's on the right.

re: #120 politicalinsomniac

I'm surprised Obama didn't pull his pants down to reveal a tattoo on his rear-end in tribute to our troops...

what no respect for the troops ... fu 0 invested in failure

ugh, i think i'll go take a calgon moment

"John is Right" video Youtube ad already up at the John McCain site! My word, that was super fast. Nice going Schmidty!

[Link: futuremd.blogspot.com...]

re: #106 rednaxela

Well, Intrade has McCain up 3.8% and I tend to believe those who put their $$$ on the line.

That because any time the public can see McCain without the having to go through the lens of the MSM first he come across well.

McCain erased any notion that he might be an enfeebled old codger,,he demonstrated nimbleness and acuity,,this man could be a 2 termer!

re: #151 RJ77

Charles Krauthammer keeps calling Obama "elegant" ... WTF?

"Uh" and "and, and uh" are elegant? Who knew?

Charles. Their nerds are very good.

I give up. G'night John-Boy!

I keep trying to post but nothing is showing up.

re: #103 Occasional Reader

OK, that was probably one.

Did you guys see Obama walking off right after the questions? Obama looked slightly depressed, and highly annoyed. And almost looks like he was trying to hide it.

Mama Winger, I see you

//echoes of romper room

I never dreamed that I would feel sorry for Obama.

re: #155 Sharmuta

Scroll down the page a bit- it's on the right.

found it.
1500 votes. think we might be able to get more than that kind of volume here on lgf. guess nobody watches cnn

Let's give a big shout out to the audience in Oxford tonight. The venue was almost entirely silent for nearly the entire debate. It's the best-mannered debate audience I've ever seen in watching untold numbers of these things.

Well done, Oxford!

re: #152 NomadOfNorad

I actually updated to XP SP3 weeks ago. Haven't had problems y@#$%^&*(~`!)@(#*$%^
NO CARRIER

SP3 is mainly a rollup of hotfixes; not a lot of new features.

re: #145 Sharmuta

I don't. I think McCain scored big by repeatedly saying he'd control spending- it's a winner. He backed it up by saying look at the records- that was huge. People who agree spending must be reigned in and who take the time to look at the records will move to McCain.

What's more, he proposed evaluating all the departments, to see what needs to be eliminated. Not just an idle threat, I'd think.

I think only diehard political junkies will watch a lot of the post debate discussion. Most Americans I think are sick of talking heads and will do something else now with the remainder of their evening.

re: #166 devil in baggy pants

Mama Winger, I see you

//echoes of romper room

Are you here?

Where am I ?

Who's on first?

Third base.

Drudge keeps coming in 3-1 for McCain. Too good to be true?

re: #165 hypothetical truth

Did you guys see Obama walking off right after the questions? Obama looked slightly depressed, and highly annoyed. And almost looks like he was trying to hide it.

he needed a cigarette real bad.

re: #7 DesertSage

Holy crap....Obama is a lightweight!

He's a frikken joke!

I'm glad the world got to see what we've been saying for years/months...he's an empty suit.

As Dennis Miller said about empty suits and Obama, that's an insult to coat hangers.

re: #143 doppelganglander

Cobb County, Georgia. It's a very red county; the Democrats' booth was pretty lonely and even the Libertarians were doing better. Had a great time and got an invite to see the Palin-Biden debate on a 52 inch flat screen TV.

Yeah, but isn't Bob Barr from Cobb County?

Get ready for tomorrow's MSM's love fest/spin for the messiah. I bet chris matthews can't even walk from the tingle in his legs. (lower case letters for mr. tingle's name here...it's a lack of respect thing.)

re: #169 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Let's give a big shout out to the audience in Oxford tonight. The venue was almost entirely silent for nearly the entire debate. It's the best-mannered debate audience I've ever seen in watching untold numbers of these things.

Well done, Oxford!

Yes, props! Go Rebs!

/it's shep smith's alma mater, too

Well, maybe Palin will be the bulldog we so badly need against Obama/ Biden. It should be so easy to pin this economic crisis on them.

re: #78 Catttt

McCain always looks like a straight talker and in-charge guy.

Barry looks like a naive whippersnapper with a 'tude.

Street agitator vs. fighter pilot/soldier.

Never bring a stick to a jet dogfight.

My impression was that for about 75% of the debate, Obama was on defense.

re: #165 hypothetical truth

Did you guys see Obama walking off right after the questions? Obama looked slightly depressed, and highly annoyed. And almost looks like he was trying to hide it.

He needed a smoke.

Obama just showed broad foreign policy inexperience. He basically just boxes himself in with his statements about Pakistan and Russia.

There are ways to express your dissatisfaction to other countries without telling them your entire plan for dealing with continued defiance. Basically both of those countries know exactly what they will get from Barry.

Nothing but dumb.

I fully expect Obama to be still trying to get elected by the time I run for President in 2024.

re: #181 erisldysnomia

Street agitator vs. fighter pilot/soldier.

Never bring a stick to a jet dogfight.

I should change that:

Never bring a Saturday Night Special to a jet dogfight.

re: #169 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Let's give a big shout out to the audience in Oxford tonight. The venue was almost entirely silent for nearly the entire debate. It's the best-mannered debate audience I've ever seen in watching untold numbers of these things.

Well done, Oxford!

On another site, a commenter graciously said that Jim Lehrer saved the reputation of American journalism tonight. Well, I wouldn't put it that high, especially since I thought he tried to surreptiously help out Obama a few times.

Nevertheless, very professional all around.

From Thread #3:

re: #712 Blackacre

Did Barry just say "Russian PEACEKEEPERS"?

Yes, he did. Check out 8:23PM. Unbelievable stuff folks. Unbelievable.

re: #144 Racer X

I was actually yelling at the TV for McCain to name names in the bailout fiasco. He should have mentioned all of the pork spending the democrats attached to the bill yesterday.

Missed opportunity.

That would have been great. Would have opened up that ugly can of worms that's just underneath the surface all week. Let it rip, John! Name names!

re: #111 Yankee Division Son

Done. And it currently say McCain 73% to Obama 25%
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How many times did I hear Obama say "I agree with John(and Tom)"?

13. No, I'm not sure, but How many times has he said "Let me be clear..."? At least a half-dozen times tonight, and a thousand times this year. Some simple analysis would indicate, perhaps, Obama is not a straight talk kind of guy, as Nora Easton alluded to on the Brit Hume roundtable immediately following the debate. He is far too touchy-feely. A true leader is much more direct and clear. That being said, my personality (not politics) is more in line with Obama. However, I am not now, nor do I ever plan to run for President of the United States. I'd be a terrible president, for some of the same reasons Obama would be a terrible leader.

re: #147 willowone

ack damn it Krauthammer! quit that

No kidding! I normally agree with Charles Krauthammer, but man oh man! Lately he's been showing himself as a DC insider.

re: #175 ibmkeyboard

That's heater to you.

Proof McCain shredded BHO:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

The Fox News audience seem to think McCain stuttered?

re: #171 Dar ul Harb

What's more, he proposed evaluating all the departments, to see what needs to be eliminated. Not just an idle threat, I'd think.

I've never been a big McCain fan, but if he wins and brings some sanity to government spending, I will be his biggest fan.

Luntz' focus group...bunch of maroons.

re: #169 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Let's give a big shout out to the audience in Oxford tonight. The venue was almost entirely silent for nearly the entire debate. It's the best-mannered debate audience I've ever seen in watching untold numbers of these things.

Well done, Oxford!

I was too busy watching Obama spew, and McCain trample... now that you mention it, yeah, they were very quiet, nobody said anything, except for the bit of humor that was thrown in. good stuff. Though for one question, McCain was talking and the prompter was trying to move on, but the prompter let Obama get the last word in. disgusting.

Ted Kennedy released from the hospital.

re: #151 RJ77

Charles Krauthammer keeps calling Obama "elegant" ... WTF?

Maybe he liked his suit?

Silly assed panel of supposedly undecided voters. Bullsh*t. Just listening to their remarks showed obvious bias.

frank lutz(sp) and his 'independents' which is pure bullshit. those people are obamanites pure and simple and planted there as independents.

Poop. G'night.

re: #169 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Let's give a big shout out to the audience in Oxford tonight. The venue was almost entirely silent for nearly the entire debate. It's the best-mannered debate audience I've ever seen in watching untold numbers of these things.

Well done, Oxford!

M-I-CROOKED LETER-CROOKED LETTER-I-HUMPBACK-HUMBACK-I- CROOKED LETTER-CROOKED LETTER-I.

re: #180 astronmr20

Well, maybe Palin will be the bulldog we so badly need against Obama/ Biden. It should be so easy to pin this economic crisis on them.

Pass this video along on the economic crisis, from a link on Powerline.

Hey, you can vote as to who's the winner of this debate on Drudge.

Instapundit has a M'Cain ad up. From the debate! pretty good one...Is Bho readyto lead: NO!

Everyone says their favored candidate did the better job. I much prefer McCain's performance but have no idea how the debate came across to the millions of undecided voters.

re: #165 hypothetical truth

Obama did not deliver the knock out. He knows it.

re: #147 willowone

ack damn it Krauthammer! quit that

Yeah, he insists it's a draw.

re: #127 politicalinsomniac

If you think this was slow, you should have seen Powerline...impossible.

re: #154 jorline

I thought McCain started slow, but finished very strong. I wanted to see McCain hit Obama with his donations from Fanny Mae, Freddy Mac and Lehman Brothers.

I wanted McCain to clearly show that Obama is part of the problem, not part of the solution for the future of America.

The blank stare (with ears) spoke volumes

re: #172 Sharmuta

I think only diehard political junkies will watch a lot of the post debate discussion. Most Americans I think are sick of talking heads and will do something else now with the remainder of their evening.

OK Sharm...I'm still watching, I confess I'm a junkie.

re: #177 Intrepid

Yeah, but isn't Bob Barr from Cobb County?

Yep. He used to be my Congressman and I've met him a couple of times. He's not doing well even here. I've seen one yard sign and that might have been his own house.

re: #174 Biff

Drudge keeps coming in 3-1 for McCain. Too good to be true?

most drudge visitors are conservative. Online polls are worthless.

re: #200 Outrider

Silly assed panel of supposedly undecided voters. Bullsh*t. Just listening to their remarks showed obvious bias.

I thought so too.

I think I saw Barry, early in the Economy part, raise his hand to Jim Lehrer for permission to interrupt Johnny.

"Teacher, may I?"

Not ready to lead.

re: #198 Racer X

He's got to go swim.

re: #193 ted

Proof McCain shredded BHO:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Ahhh. I see why Obama is way ahead. It appears someone is closing the page and reopening it to vote multiple times. Cheaters.

Why is everybody, including Krauthammer, buying into this line that the economy is Obama's strength?

Obama is a lawyer, not an economist! He's implicated in the Fannie/Freddie mess! He's a socialist!

Is it really that hard to get McCain up to speed on the economy? Why doesn't the campaign let him take on Obama's economic ideology directly? Why won't McCain stand up for capitalism?

I just got an email from the McCain campaign announcing his return to Washington. It came about 33 minutes after the debate ended. And, of course, the commercial was posted on YouTube about fifteen minutes before that. I gotta say, this guy has a pretty well organized campaign. -- Ruthless

Okely dokely,

I think McCain could have been much more aggressive on economic matters. I have no idea why he didn't attack Obama more. Why not mention that he introduced legislation in 2005 to trim Fannie and it was tabled by democrats in committee. Why didn't he mention Howard Raines or Jim Johnson?

On foreign policy McCain did better, but on the whole McCain needed to attack on economic matters and he didn't do it.

Anyone going to the MSNBC poll and voting for McCain?

re: #165 hypothetical truth

Did you guys see Obama walking off right after the questions? Obama looked slightly depressed, and highly annoyed. And almost looks like he was trying to hide it.

He is so much above this whole "debate" thing and thinks it would be much better if we just canceled the election and declared him President right now.

Shit...Biden on FOX...he'll kill and hour.

I heard a little online at the start, some more on the radio driving home, and the last few minutes live on the teewee.

Tedious on both sides, at best.

The ABC talking heads were surprisingly even in most of their early statements, though their drift towards Obama was always evident.

ps

hamsters berry berry slow 2nite, but I should be glad my IE6 is now again safe at any speed.

re: #208 unclassifiable

Obama did not deliver the knock out. He knows it.

yeah, but he tried to let him, heh, Obama could not even do it when he had a chance... "uhh...."

McCain did well, but he did not make Obama look scary enough. We all know that Obama is a vacant, far left radical in a suit. We know that he'd be America's first outright Socialist president. McCain didn't get that across.

In fact the one time he said that Obama had the most Liberal voting record, Obama got visibly rattled.

Maybe next time.

re: #182 mama winger

My impression was that for about 75% of the debate, Obama was on defense.

And frankly, his defense consisted mainly of rapid-fire "uhh" ing and contradicting himself, as on the nuclear power head-fake.

Not only didn't he look presidential, I'd consider that a snortworthy performance on the Senate floor.

At least Hillary and Joe the Mouth manage to look like they remember what they said five minutes ago. I'm not sure that The One remembers what he said thirty seconds ago.

cheers

eon

mccain cleaned his clock
obama looked like a poser.

There were quite a few shots of barry looking at McCain during the debate and I thought he looks quite angry.

Almost as if he'd wish he hadn't been playing around but really took that shot.

He has a thin veneer- he's an angry, angry person at heart.

The cnn.com poll has 0bama as the winner 75% to 25%. But I checked—you can vote as often as you want by simply refreshing the page.

I can't believe I watched the same debate as all these spinners on television. And Luntz's focus group thought Obama won, 'cause he "cares" about "all Americans".

Good grief.

It was interesting.

McCain was informed, but not always eloquent. Obama was eloquent, but not informed, and frequently resorted to generalities.

In particular, Obama's reference to his Kenyan father in the outro was a bad mistake. Didn't Obama's father leave his mother and go on to father a bunch of illegitimate (illiterate, indigent) children in Africa? What a role model!

If I were Obama I would deprecate the father and praise the mother who actually supported and raised him!

Some at the debate party thought that Obama was the loser in the poise category. I'd rate the participants as about equal.

Nevertheless, the clear winner is McCain.

Charlie

re: #103 Occasional Reader

That Iran comment was priceless! I wish they had had the camera on Obama's face when McCain laid that one on him.

I'm watching Keef Olbermann and Rachel Maddow and they are delusional.

Ah the delusion of moonbats. My acquaintance(can't really call him a friend) just posted this comment on my comment about the debate in regards to Obama.

"eah, at least Obama got his facts straight, and appeared calmer and more dignified than McCain."

re: #207 neocon hippie

Everyone says their favored candidate did the better job. I much prefer McCain's performance but have no idea how the debate came across to the millions of undecided voters.

I was pleasantly surprised and relieved that McCain did as well as he did. I certainly did not expect himn to do this well. Maybe there is hope yet...or maybe we got a glimpse of the train wreck that is coming to this country for the next four years.

re: #213 astronmr20

most drudge visitors are conservative. Online polls are worthless.

no. not too good to be true .... fact

re: #45 PAgirlinNC

I think the funniest thing that was said was when McCain said "I don't have a presidential seal yet..." Not that anyone that watches the MSM media would get that dig but... funny to those of us who know.

Probably seen as a defecit -
"Oh ? I didn't know that, I wonder why not ? Obama must have one... hmmmm..."

/clueless MSM bobblehead

Biden talking through his a*s again. Wow. Biden and Obama won the war in Iraq. Who knew?

Jeannie Needs a Shooter

Obama needs a heater

/it's amazing to me that even FOX is spinning this debate for Obama

Kissinger backs up McCain !
Obama mischaractertized Kissingers stance !

Whoops! see everybody's already voting on drudge.

Powerline considering it a draw, "at best."

re: #194 vbspurs

The Fox News audience seem to think McCain stuttered?

I couldn't believe that segment. I really could not.

I know this is off topic but Palin was in an Irish pub in Philly and was given the typical leftist welcome. I saw one of the tolerant protest signs that said "Welcome to Philly, Now Leave".

re: #223 jorline

Ain't that about as long as the plugs last?

Where did Luntz get this panel? All wanted the government to help THEM? Ugh

re: #198 Racer X

Ted Kennedy released from the hospital.

Oh nooooo! Quick, hide your wives and children! Wait, No, hide the booze!

"We hold these truths to be self-evident..."

"One small step for man..."

"Ask not what your country can do for you..."

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

"I have a dream..."

"Hey, uh, wait, uh... I have a bracelet too!" - Barack Hussein Obama

re: #215 NelsFree

I think I saw Barry, early in the Economy part, raise his hand to Jim Lehrer for permission to interrupt Johnny.

"Teacher, may I?"

Not ready to lead.

may i go for 1 or 2

re: #219 Ruthless

I just got an email from the McCain campaign announcing his return to Washington. It came about 33 minutes after the debate ended. And, of course, the commercial was posted on YouTube about fifteen minutes before that. I gotta say, this guy has a pretty well organized campaign. -- Ruthless

I just got it as well.

I was disappointed McCain didn't make Obama eat the 8 years exclusively focused on Iraq.
I may not have gone to Harvard, but ...

Spring of 2003 to fall of 2008 comes up at 5 and a half years by the math I was taught (if you accept the dubious premise that nothing else was of concern after we went into Iraq).

Must have been that special Math taught by the Annenburg Challenge teachers.

re: #61 Sharmuta

I loved how McCain was quite detailed when discussing the Caucuses, and all barry could do was agree with McCain.

I concur Sharmuta. McCain came across as presidential and refined and in CONTROL of himself. On the other hand obambi came across as churlish, childish and rude. His smirk would be something I bet Johnnie would love to knock off his puss. I have to agree and my son who NEVER agrees with me said the same - McCain kicked his ass and all obambi could do was tread water.

I am looking forward to Thursday night when Sarah does to Biden what McCain did to Obama today.

re: #212 doppelganglander

Yep. He used to be my Congressman and I've met him a couple of times. He's not doing well even here. I've seen one yard sign and that might have been his own house.

Heh - I spent about 8 months down in Powder Springs in 1996 preparing for a Christian youth congress out at Sun Valley.

usu more fun that watching...
what is wrong with by hair. Hused to be shown as a short afro. but now he looks like Cassius in a production of Julius Caesar...

re: #245 poovey1171

I know this is off topic but Palin was in an Irish pub in Philly and was given the typical leftist welcome. I saw one of the tolerant protest signs that said "Welcome to Philly, Now Leave".

Eagles fans.

re: #233 GM_Yitzhak

That Iran comment was priceless! I wish they had had the camera on Obama's face when McCain laid that one on him.

Yeah, Obama doesn't give proper weight these issues, because he's all about polemics.

WOW...Biden gave a 30 second answer. He hopes Palin sticks with McCains talking points.

Biden's very cocky right now and thinks he smells blood in the water.

re: #232 GT Charlie

If I were Obama I would deprecate the father and praise the mother who actually supported and raised him!

But she was a "typical white person."

Obama did better than I thought he would. But it is unmistakable that he is not ready to lead.

Obama held his own. I didn't agree with anything he said, but he came off well. McCain made alot more sense, but sounded a little nervous to me. But he pounded Obama with facts and details that Obama just doesn't have stored in his memory, since it's only about a week long on some of this stuff.

Frankly, hearing Obama talk about military matters is like listening to a frog sing opera...just sounds absurd.

re: #218 Peter Verkooijen

I agree. As far as experience neither man is exactly an economics wizard.

After the last few days I am beginning to believe that no one really is.

re: #251 kevinmumaw

Ditto...Just now.

re: #249 lennysquiggy

"We hold these truths to be self-evident..."

"One small step for man..."

"Ask not what your country can do for you..."

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

"I have a dream..."

"Hey, uh, wait, uh... I have a bracelet too!" - Barack Hussein Obama

lol.... thats rich

Response = 2 threads ago:

"Where Eagles Dare" is on TBS and is still playing.
I tried several times to respond and came up with a white screen - but theres plenty left to go ! Channel 58 in my neck 'o the woods.

Drudge has had this link up all day: VIDEO: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?...

It's a ten-pound clue bat.

I have emailed it out.

I rate it as pretty much a draw. McCain oversimplifies and BO blathers. An annoying 90 minutes.

re: #213 astronmr20

most drudge visitors are conservative. Online polls are worthless.

Yeah, Charles' poll would have included Ron Paul.

I hope that McCain gets a chance to hit Obama over Rezko, Ayers, Wright, etc., during the debates.

Wow. Still tough to comments.

draw goes to the underdog (Johnny Mac), experience gets my vote, for PoTUS. I wish they would roll Dr. Strangelove (Krauthammer) out and let him question these two. Let's hope Darth Cheney and Rove jr and Gingrich and our Lord and Savior is bringing Gov. Palin (R) up to speed and help her release the dominance she can exude...

we may need the October surprise(s)

re: #151 RJ77

I'm a big fan of Charles K, and am always cautious to disagree with him, but I think he's off base tonight. Ever since the Palin selection, it seems that Charles has soured on McCain's campaign.

Now I agree with him that she is not qualified to hold office, but she is more so than Obama. But her selection still does weaken that very good argument against Hussein as the price for the advantages she brings. Anyway, enough on Palin, I think that McCain did much better than Charles is willing to acknowledge.