That reminds me..... time to take a shower. Curse the internet!

Things have reached a pretty pass when a simple observation amounts to wisdom.

How silly have we become?

Refusing to dive into a sewer doesn’t mean you’re cleaner than everyone else.

True- but it greatly increases your chances of not stinking.

re: #2 Dianna

Things have reached a pretty pass when a simple observation amounts to wisdom.

How silly have we become?

Are you feeling better without the meds today?

Refusing to dive into a sewer doesn’t mean you’re cleaner than everyone else.

Cleaner than those who dove in, though.

Part of survival is avoiding danger.

My talent remains intact, I post a long winded comment on a thread and as soon I hit post discover that a new thread is up.

re: #2 Dianna

Things have reached a pretty pass when a simple observation amounts to wisdom.

How silly have we become?

Hey Dianna.

Man Stopped In Airport With 200 Birds In His Bag.

I don't think that's a euphemism.

My McCain/Palin yardsign and stickers finally arrived today! They must be slammed with orders because it took almost three weeks to get them.

re: #4 debutaunt

Are you feeling better without the meds today?

Beginning to, anyway!

Tacos Tacos Tacos Tacos

The once was a man named Lao Stinky
Who banned trolls with the click of his pinky

re: #10 blues fan

My McCain/Palin yardsign and stickers finally arrived today! They must be slammed with orders because it took almost three weeks to get them.

Seems like a thriving economy to me. I don't get all this doomer talk.

re: #8 EIDE_Interface

Hi!

How's things, this afternoon? More cheerful?

Refusing to dive into a sewer"just 'cause" is stupid.
Refusing to dive into a sewer to save a drowning person is evil.

re: #14 EIDE_Interface

Seems like a thriving economy to me. I don't get all this doomer talk.

Democrat talking points. You see em every 4 years.

re: #15 Dianna

Hi!

How's things, this afternoon? More cheerful?

Sure! My mood swings aren't as pronounced lately.

re: #13 Shug

The once was a man named Lao Stinky
Who banned trolls with the click of his pinky

"flick" will work better there, I think.

re: #17 kansas

Democrat talking points. You see em every 4 years.

Oh you want doomerism aka doomer porn? Clicky here:

Peak Oil

everyone's an editor

re: #9 Wyatt Earp

Man Stopped In Airport With 200 Birds In His Bag.

I don't think that's a euphemism.

Sad thing is when bird smugglers are caught the birds have to be destroyed by Fish and Ag.

re: #6 EIDE_Interface

Part of survival is avoiding danger.

tell that to the 1st responders at the WTC

re: #18 EIDE_Interface

Good.

Since I'm off steroids, I figure I'll get some sleep tonight.

I rode a bike with the new electronic DuraAce shifting yesterday. Only on a trainer, though. Yes, it was nice stuff. Is it worth $4,000 for the component group? That depends....

Here's your new stem, Charles. I forget whether it retailed for $250 or $350.

Not to choose is to choose.

Not to help is to choose not to help.

Not to take sides is to take sides.

Refusing to dive into a sewer to dredge up a pearl makes you poorer.

re: #23 least

tell that to the 1st responders at the WTC

I don't think I'd do what they did. My survival instinct is too great.

re: #22 lifeofthemind

Sad thing is when bird smugglers are caught the birds have to be destroyed by Fish and Ag.

Agreed. A lot of the ones in the bag were already dead.

re: #26 Globular Cluster

Not to choose is to choose.

Not to help is to choose not to help.

Not to take sides is to take sides.

Refusing to dive into a sewer to dredge up a pearl makes you poorer.

Tell that to those who espouse "cruel neutrality". Yeah I'm talking about you Ann Althouse!

My point was, there's much more to life than just survival.

re: #25 wrenchwench

I rode a bike with the new electronic DuraAce shifting yesterday. Only on a trainer, though. Yes, it was nice stuff. Is it worth $4,000 for the component group? That depends....

Here's your new stem, Charles. I forget whether it retailed for $250 or $350.

I'd think that electronic shifting wouldn't make sense for casual riders like me. Even if the $4,000 didn't give me pause!

re: #30 least

My point was, there's much more to life than just survival.

J. L. Seagull circa 1977

re: #30 least

My point was, there's much more to life than just survival.

I still can't stop thinking about the WTC jumpers and how angry I get at the left for covering it up.

re: #11 Dianna

Beginning to, anyway!

Good - you'll be close to normal by Monday!

re: #32 kansas

J. L. Seagull circa 1977

Careful, or I'll see if I can't find the Neil Diamond videos!

@*#&(*&$!

Someone destroyed my other McCain sign this morning. Just had the police over - again. I hate living in a battleground state. I just finished greasing up the signs with vaseline.

re: #35 Dianna

Careful, or I'll see if I can't find the Neil Diamond videos!

I'll be careful, promise.

re: #34 debutaunt

Good - you'll be close to normal by Monday!

Or, as my Male points out under his breath, as close as I ever come.

re: #25 wrenchwench

I rode a bike with the new electronic DuraAce shifting yesterday. Only on a trainer, though. Yes, it was nice stuff. Is it worth $4,000 for the component group? That depends....

Here's your new stem, Charles. I forget whether it retailed for $250 or $350.

Yeesh, $4K for the gruppo! That's nuts.

re: #7 lifeofthemind

I'll hit it for ya. :o)

re: #31 Dianna

I'd think that electronic shifting wouldn't make sense for casual riders like me. Even if the $4,000 didn't give me pause!

Exactly. One of the things that it depends on is whether riding a bike is your passion. Another is the size (and stability) of your bank account.

re: #26 Globular Cluster

Not to choose is to choose.

Not to help is to choose not to help.

Not to take sides is to take sides.

Refusing to dive into a sewer to dredge up a pearl makes you poorer.

And if the pearl is really just a plastic bead, then you've jumped in the sewer after garbage.

re: #36 zenren

@*#&(*&$!

Someone destroyed my other McCain sign this morning. Just had the police over - again. I hate living in a battleground state. I just finished greasing up the signs with vaseline.

Well they can do something with their sticky fingers now.

for 4,000 I hope it comes with somebody to peddle for you

re: #41 wrenchwench

I like to ride. I also like to do martial arts. I like to read, and to write, and I like to hang out on LGF.

It's a matter of balance and perspective.

But it does sound neat, and like something that would make a really long ride a bit easier.

re: #36 zenren

@*#&(*&$!

Someone destroyed my other McCain sign this morning. Just had the police over - again. I hate living in a battleground state. I just finished greasing up the signs with vaseline.

Two words: Mouse Traps

re: #36 zenren

@*#&(*&$!

Someone destroyed my other McCain sign this morning. Just had the police over - again. I hate living in a battleground state. I just finished greasing up the signs with vaseline.

I'd give up on the sign thing....... too much stress and the cops won't do anything.

re: #39 Charles

Yeesh, $4K for the gruppo! That's nuts.

Yes. And even if you already have DuraAce, you can't use any of the old parts, not even the brakes. The new levers pull a different amount of cable.

Somebody will buy it, though.

re: #36 zenren

hang the destroyed ones up with a sign that says this is what the democrats do!

re: #44 Shug

for 4,000 I hope it comes with somebody to peddle for you

Yes indeed it should. And somebody to pedal it for you too!

re: #47 Mr Pancakes

I'd give up on the sign thing....... too much stress and the cops won't do anything.

Actually, I caught the guy who stole my last sign and he is being cited. If he comes on my property again, he goes to jail.

Hey Charles, how about a Paul Newman thread today. I know he was a lib, but he was a great actor, as well as a kick-ass race car driver (I saw him in 1979 working as a crew member on a Formula Atlantic car, at the SCCA Regionals at the old Great Southwest Airport in Fort Worth) and winning Can-Am and IndyCar team owner along with Carl Haas.

Paul Newman article from today's AutoBlog

Paul Newman takes last laps at Lime Rock on August 13th

I read this on another blog, and decide I couldn't pass it up - poster's name is Anonymous...

If you can't elect a guy with
-no negative record
-a deeply unpopular President
-a mainstream media 200% in the tank for him and unwilling to report on anything remotely negative about him.
-99% of the african american vote
-a current deep financial crisis that he and Congress can blame on Bush
-no active security issue on the table
-Hillary Clinton essentially out of the picture
- a Democratic majority in Congress
-Oprah

then he absolutely, 100% sucks. The situation could not possibly more in his favor unless pictures of McCain fondling prepubescent boys were found.

I guess my only question is what is the percentage of the vote is African American? What is the percentage of those who will never vote for an African American? What is the percentage of those who would vote for an African American under any circumstances?

re: #46 Wyatt Earp

Two words: Mouse Traps

Old gentleman I used to know, put fishhooks in his toolbox.

re: #50 wrenchwench

Yes indeed it should. And somebody to pedal it for you too!

oops!

re: #32 kansas

J. L. Seagull circa 1977

Oh, how I despise that books POV

/resisting the urge to make a comment about "Dust in The Wind"
/urge overcome by this

re: #51 zenren

Actually, I caught the guy who stole my last sign and he is being cited. If he comes on my property again, he goes to jail.

Good.

How people justify petty vandalism to themselves I've never known.

re: #46 Wyatt Earp

Two words: Mouse Traps

Cover it with the poison from Oophaga Pumilio Frog

re: #51 zenren

Actually, I caught the guy who stole my last sign and he is being cited. If he comes on my property again, he goes to jail.

Cool........ good job.

re: #49 phoenixgirl

hang the destroyed ones up with a sign that says this is what the democrats do!

I like it!

re: #46 Wyatt Earp

Two words: Mouse Traps

In my fantasies, I would do this. However, in our society, I'm sure that I would be the one to get sued and go to jail.

re: #52 Ward Cleaver

His Newman's Own juices are wonderful.

From earlier, went surfing:

The amazing story of Pvt. Henry Tandy and Adolph Hitler.

re: #36 zenren

@*#&(*&$!

Someone destroyed my other McCain sign this morning. Just had the police over - again. I hate living in a battleground state. I just finished greasing up the signs with vaseline.

Go get some of that "hot foot" pigeon stuff that burns the fingers. Smear with Cayenne pepper juice. You know, booby trap the damn things.

Just don't booby trap them lethally (as much as you'd like to).

re: #60 zenren

In my fantasies, I would do this. However, in our society, I'm sure that I would be the one to get sued and go to jail.

Take it from a long time gardener specializing in peppers. Spray your signs with a solution of vinegar and habanero reduction - stays there forever.....they'll wipe their eyes or noses and pay the penalty.

All natural of course...

re: #51 zenren

Actually, I caught the guy who stole my last sign and he is being cited. If he comes on my property again, he goes to jail.

There a (short) story to go with that?

re: #64 JustAGal

What she said!

This may be old news, but just in case.

Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement

[Link: governor.mo.gov...]

I love it. (the statement)

Does anyone else see a white piece of paper on The One's lectern in this video. It is around the 18 or 19 sec point. When he raises his hands. Is this the piece of paper he has the soldiers name written on? I didn't think that they were allowed notes.

Okay, am I mis-remembering, or just a few short weeks ago wasn't McCain in the lead? Are things trending in the wrong direction?

I mean, are people this fickle? Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, Father Fleuger, etc. aren't important any more?

re: #64 JustAGal

Take it from a long time gardener specializing in peppers. Spray your signs with a solution of vinegar and habanero reduction - stays there forever.....they'll wipe their eyes or noses and pay the penalty.

All natural of course...

Yeah but the lawsuits...

I love opens. I'm looking to shot one under par.

Well, with a handicap.

re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There a (short) story to go with that?

Yes, I posted about it probably a week or two ago. I caught the guy red-handed yanking the signs out. Of course, I pursued him for about 5 to ten minutes berating him at the top of my lungs. He was pretty embarrassed that he got caught. Then I called the police.

re: #68 newsjunkie_ky

Does anyone else see a white piece of paper on The One's lectern in this video. It is around the 18 or 19 sec point. When he raises his hands. Is this the piece of paper he has the soldiers name written on? I didn't think that they were allowed notes.

Watch the video
He had to actually look at the damn bracelet so he would know the name

re: #56 least

Oh, how I despise that books POV

/resisting the urge to make a comment about "Dust in The Wind"
/urge overcome by this

Dust In The Wind? You don't like that song?

But, hey, Carry On Our Wayward Son is Kansas' best song. I'd always thought Steve Walsh had one of the strongest voices out there.

re: #64 JustAGal

Take it from a long time gardener specializing in peppers. Spray your signs with a solution of vinegar and habanero reduction - stays there forever.....they'll wipe their eyes or noses and pay the penalty.

All natural of course...

Or you could always borrow a pitbull and chain him to the sign. Just make sure the sign is WELL secured.

re: #69 Archimedes

Your rememberer is working just fine. Yep. People are that fickle.

I still think you should have to pass a test to be allowed to vote. If you decided who to vote for within three days of election day...

The Vote Nazi says, "NO VOTE FOR YOU!"

re: #67 yah

This may be old news, but just in case.

Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement

[Link: governor.mo.gov...]

I love it. (the statement)

Blunt and to the point. I like it.
Thanks, I emailed it to my list.

re: #70 EIDE_Interface

Yeah but the lawsuits...

I just stapled another sign to the bottom stating that it is illegal to steal or vandalize and the I will call the police. Touch at your own risk! Perhaps they will think I have lost my mind and I am a complete sign psycho.

re: #72 zenren

Yes, I posted about it probably a week or two ago. I caught the guy red-handed yanking the signs out. Of course, I pursued him for about 5 to ten minutes berating him at the top of my lungs. He was pretty embarrassed that he got caught. Then I called the police.

Can't you tackle him and rough him up a little if he's on your property?

re: #68 newsjunkie_ky

Does anyone else see a white piece of paper on The One's lectern in this video. It is around the 18 or 19 sec point. When he raises his hands. Is this the piece of paper he has the soldiers name written on? I didn't think that they were allowed notes.

He's a Dem, all rules and laws are waived for lefties.

re: #79 cliffster

Can't you tackle him and rough him up a little if he's on your property?

I wish but I don't think so.

Wondering what the anti-McCain Republicans (and I don't mean that in a snide or negative way) think of him after last night v. they guy they had supported during the primaries.

re: #56 least

Oh, how I despise that books POV

/resisting the urge to make a comment about "Dust in The Wind"
/urge overcome by this

Doesn't the guy with the tambourine look like the perfect cave man prototype? It cracks me up.

re: #74 Archimedes

Dust In The Wind? You don't like that song?

But, hey, Carry On Our Wayward Son is Kansas' best song. I'd always thought Steve Walsh had one of the strongest voices out there.

Debatable if that is their best song....... but Steve had a great voice.

re: #67 yah

This may be old news, but just in case.

Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement

[Link: governor.mo.gov...]

I love it. (the statement)

Wow..pretty strong words from Gov. Blunt!

From the article you linked to"“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”

re: #69 Archimedes

Okay, am I mis-remembering, or just a few short weeks ago wasn't McCain in the lead? Are things trending in the wrong direction?

I mean, are people this fickle? Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, Father Fleuger, etc. aren't important any more?

Palin fever has faded.

I'm not sure how much McCain fever there ever was.

I'm still counting on Obama to chase voters away from himself, I hope I'm not asking too much of him.

re: #69 Archimedes

Okay, am I mis-remembering, or just a few short weeks ago wasn't McCain in the lead? Are things trending in the wrong direction?

I mean, are people this fickle? Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, Father Fleuger, etc. aren't important any more?

Pollsters trying to push The One on the uninformed.
Remember both algore and jon carry were ahead in the polls at this time.

re: #78 zenren

Have neighbors (big libs) had a billboard sized sign a few years back. Republican punks painted penises all over it (think it was a Kerry sign, might have been Gore). They put video cameras on the sign.

Damn sign must have cost them 1,000.00.

Arrest punks from either side. Jail them until the day after the election.

I am a little fearful of putting up signs or bumper stickers. The Obots seem particularly hostile (Like yellow jackets this time of year) and I'd rather not deal with vandalism now or in the future when people silently vote McCain.

re: #68 newsjunkie_ky

Both McCain and the zero had paper on their lecterns...to take notes on, which i saw McCain doing repeatedly thru the debate...I dont think I ever saw the zero writing tho..And he did have to look at the bracelet to remember the boy';s name

Delhi again under Jihadi attack .... 2 killed, 25 injured

A 13-year-old boy had his head blown off when a bomb dropped by two young men from a motorcycle exploded in a crowded market in the Mehrauli area. Seventeen people were injured, many seriously in the congested Mahrauli Sarai electronic market in the city's southern outskirts. The bomb exploded during the afternoon rush.

The bombers, believed to be in their mid-20s, wearing jeans with their heads covered by helmets, sped away on a black Pulsar motorcycle according to eyewitnesses. A similar motorcycle was found abandoned elsewhere in the city.

Police said the dead boy, Santosh Kumar, picked up the bomb concealed in a lunch box and wrapped in a black polythene bag and tried handing it back to the motorcycle riders, thinking they had dropped the packet by mistake. As the bomb began emitting smoke, the frightened child dropped it and tried to run away. But within seconds, it exploded, killing him and felling many men and women in the vicinity.

re: #82 SFGoth

Wondering what the anti-McCain Republicans (and I don't mean that in a snide or negative way) think of him after last night v. they guy they had supported during the primaries.

I supported Romney. No friend of McCain. But that was a personal thing - McCain has shaken hands with the devil I mean the democrats too many times. But he's the right guy, he'll make the country better.

re: #89 SpartanWoman

I am a little fearful of putting up signs or bumper stickers. The Obots seem particularly hostile (Like yellow jackets this time of year) and I'd rather not deal with vandalism now or in the future when people silently vote McCain.

That's what Glocks were invented for.

re: #44 Shug

for 4,000 I hope it comes with somebody to peddle for you

Everyone can use a salesman.

re: #82 SFGoth

Wondering what the anti-McCain Republicans (and I don't mean that in a snide or negative way) think of him after last night v. they guy they had supported during the primaries.

I don't think McCain did what he could have to Obama. He could have torn him to shreds on many, many things. He didn't call him out enough. I was a Romney supporter during the primaries and I would think that he would have torn Obama to shreds on the economic questions. That was obviously McCain's weaker (at least in public perception, unfortunately we have to think like most of the oblivious out there) showing out of the two topics.

re: #91 loveguru

Delhi again under Jihadi attack .... 2 killed, 25 injured

Pure evil.

re: #69 Archimedes

Okay, am I mis-remembering, or just a few short weeks ago wasn't McCain in the lead? Are things trending in the wrong direction?

I mean, are people this fickle? Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, Father Fleuger, etc. aren't important any more?

Psssst....They're lies.

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have neighbors (big libs) had a billboard sized sign a few years back. Republican punks painted penises all over it (think it was a Kerry sign, might have been Gore). They put video cameras on the sign.

Damn sign must have cost them 1,000.00.

Arrest punks from either side. Jail them until the day after the election.

I agree. Nobody should steal or deface anybody's signs. It is just childish.

re: #84 Mr Pancakes

Debatable if that is their best song....... but Steve had a great voice.

Is he still singing?

I thought from the stand point of music, it was their best. Wrt lyrics, I liked Icarus.

re: #68 newsjunkie_ky

I saw McCain getting out a pen to make notes - I think that is legal.
More likely BHO had a blackberry with notes/advice being emailed to him.

re: #93 EIDE_Interface

That's what Glocks were invented for.

Yes and we have two, but I don't think I'd be on very firm ground threatening vandalising yutes with one

re: #98 zenren

I agree. Nobody should steal or deface anybody's signs. It is just childish.

But the left sure wants to push our limits, no?

re: #101 SpartanWoman

Yes and we have two, but I don't think I'd be on very firm ground threatening vandalising yutes with one

In the wild west, you'd not get prosecuted...

Hmmm ..... McCain 63 Obama 37

re: #97 Shay4l

Psssst....They're lies.

Nobody can really believe that, though. I mean, the evidence is overwhelming.

re: #90 Wishing

Both McCain and the zero had paper on their lecterns...to take notes on, which i saw McCain doing repeatedly thru the debate...I dont think I ever saw the zero writing tho..And he did have to look at the bracelet to remember the boy';s name

Thanks. I didn't watch last night. I listened and read LGF.

re: #104 E.T.

Hmmm ..... McCain 63 Obama 37

Sweet!

re: #89 SpartanWoman

I am a little fearful of putting up signs or bumper stickers. The Obots seem particularly hostile (Like yellow jackets this time of year) and I'd rather not deal with vandalism now or in the future when people silently vote McCain.

No bumper stickers, no pins, no signs, no brainer. I like to fly under the radar. If I want to cause a stink I have the internet.

re: #86 itellu3times

Palin fever has faded.

I'm not sure how much McCain fever there ever was.

I'm still counting on Obama to chase voters away from himself, I hope I'm not asking too much of him.

Oh yeah, I hope Palin finds her game again. I want to see her dazzle.

re: #104 E.T.

Hmmm ..... McCain 63 Obama 37

Ah the AOL poll. It has been remarkably consistent for McCain. I can't see him winning all 50 states, Obots will surely take Massachusetts and DC, but a poll where no one knows your telephone number, name or address might be more accurate (this year) than any other kind.

The Obots intimidate

re: #101 SpartanWoman

Yes and we have two, but I don't think I'd be on very firm ground threatening vandalising yutes with one

I think if I saw some yo-yo messing with a sign in my yard, and I just happened to have a hatchet in my hand, and I just happened to walk outside, and they happened to see me walking outside, across my yard, with a hatchet in my hand, and they were there in the yard, well I'll bet they would at least not come to my yard again..

re: #102 EIDE_Interface

But the left sure wants to push our limits, no?

Yes, and they are playing a dangerous game. I have good self-control but others don't. It's just stupid to put yourself at both personal and legal risk by ripping up a sign.

re: #96 EIDE_Interface

Religion of peace !

re: #108 Mr Pancakes

No bumper stickers, no pins, no signs, no brainer. I like to fly under the radar. If I want to cause a stink I have the internet.

Agree to some extent, but I hate that these people have made me somewhat afraid to express myself with signage. My fear is that the MSM has perpetrated this racism lie so often that some of the obots will feel entirely justified in resorting to violence.

re: #104 E.T.

Hmmm ..... McCain 63 Obama 37

Another stupid intertubes poll.

re: #108 Mr Pancakes

No bumper stickers, no pins, no signs, no brainer. I like to fly under the radar. If I want to cause a stink I have the internet.

I catch enough grief with my "If you eat meat, you are a murderer" bumper sticker.

JUST KIDDING, I DON'T HAVE ONE. REALLY! I DON'T.

Have a very mild little Vegetarian Bumper sticker. Catch hell from customers with that.

I just want to find a bumper sticker that says, "BUY SOMETHING FROM ME DANG IT!" Have to leave the political bumperstickers for the coexisting prius owners.

Alas the reality is what RCP has to say on the matter. +4.0 in the national poll and +65 with the EC for Bambi.

re: #82 SFGoth

I think I'm voting for McCain, and I'm really grateful to Obama for bringing out all the McCain virtues I'd overlooked in the primaries.

Democrats are corrupt fascists.

re: #99 Archimedes

Is he still singing?

I thought from the stand point of music, it was their best. Wrt lyrics, I liked Icarus.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I think he is.... and he did some stuff after Kansas..... he's an old guy now, hard to keep that vocal quality over time.

I say debatable because the next song on the LP .... "The Wall" I think showcased his vocals much better.... Leftoverture is such a great LP.

re: #120 Mr Pancakes

I think he is.... and he did some stuff after Kansas..... he's an old guy now, hard to keep that vocal quality over time.

I say debatable because the next song on the LP .... "The Wall" I think showcased his vocals much better.... Leftoverture is such a great LP.

Prog rock rules!

I truly believe people are lying to the pollsters, as my elderly mother in law did. She told the pollster that she had "of course" voted for Dinkins, but had voted for Guiliani in NYC. I asked her why she lied she said "do you think I'm stupid? These people mean business"

Ha ha.

The Wolverines suck

re: #117 EIDE_Interface

Alas the reality is what RCP has to say on the matter. +4.0 in the national poll and +65 with the EC for Bambi.

You sent this earlier today, right?

That's really all that matters. Popular vote is fun to watch, but electoral map is where it's at. And popular vote almost always follows.

And on this map, Obama looks real good, until you realize that his numbers rely on leaners. Take away "leaners", and it's almost dead even.

re: #114 SpartanWoman

Agree to some extent, but I hate that these people have made me somewhat afraid to express myself with signage. My fear is that the MSM has perpetrated this racism lie so often that some of the obots will feel entirely justified in resorting to violence.

I know SpartanWoman...... at this stage of the game (in my life) I don't need the grief.

re: #114 SpartanWoman

Agree to some extent, but I hate that these people have made me somewhat afraid to express myself with signage. My fear is that the MSM has perpetrated this racism lie so often that some of the obots will feel entirely justified in resorting to violence.

And this is what has me so angry. Is this the death of political expression in the USA? Are people going to become more afraid to express dissent? The liberals are using a variety of ways to silence any opposing viewpoints. From hacking email and websites, to shouting rascism and biased news coverage to ripping up signs.

This is why I will keep replacing the signs. I cannot reward bullying by giving in.

Can you tell I'm worked up today?

re: #124 Shug

Ha ha.

The Wolverines suck

Score?

6-0 Wisconsin

Badgers about to score.

Michigan looks awful, just how I like them

re: #125 cliffster

You sent this earlier today, right?

That's really all that matters. Popular vote is fun to watch, but electoral map is where it's at. And popular vote almost always follows.

And on this map, Obama looks real good, until you realize that his numbers rely on leaners. Take away "leaners", and it's almost dead even.

But if you give all the leaners to each, Obama has 286 EV.

re: #128 zenren

I understand but I am refraining from signs his year. I have seen a few McCain stickered cars with serious keying damage

re: #128 zenren

And this is what has me so angry. Is this the death of political expression in the USA? Are people going to become more afraid to express dissent? The liberals are using a variety of ways to silence any opposing viewpoints. From hacking email and websites, to shouting rascism and biased news coverage to ripping up signs.

This is why I will keep replacing the signs. I cannot reward bullying by giving in.

Can you tell I'm worked up today?

Don't worry - there will be a backlash coming. It will be huge.

re: #82 SFGoth

Wondering what the anti-McCain Republicans (and I don't mean that in a snide or negative way) think of him after last night v. they guy they had supported during the primaries.

I'm going to hold my nose and vote for McCain because I despise Obama. I don't think McCain did nearly as well as Rudy would have last night and I don't think McCain can win, but he did better than I expected last night.

re: #128 zenren

And this is what has me so angry. Is this the death of political expression in the USA? Are people going to become more afraid to express dissent? The liberals are using a variety of ways to silence any opposing viewpoints. From hacking email and websites, to shouting rascism and biased news coverage to ripping up signs.

This is why I will keep replacing the signs. I cannot reward bullying by giving in.

Can you tell I'm worked up today?

You are so right! The extent to which the left attempts to silence all dissent is chilling to anyone with any grasp of history.

re: #10 blues fan

My McCain/Palin yardsign and stickers finally arrived today! They must be slammed with orders because it took almost three weeks to get them.

So far I have only counted 10 McCain/Palin yard signs in my nieghborhood.
I've only counted 1 Obama/Biden sign.

re: #132 SpartanWoman

I understand but I am refraining from signs his year. I have seen a few McCain stickered cars with serious keying damage

Trust me, I get where you are coming from.

re: #131 EIDE_Interface

But if you give all the leaners to each, Obama has 286 EV.

So we need to get us some leaners!

re: #133 EIDE_Interface

Don't worry - there will be a backlash coming. It will be huge.

Sorry, but I doubt it. If there is a backlash it will come on softly in whispered tones. I know plenty of people who are literally afraid to say where they stand politically.

re: #138 cliffster

So we need to get us some leaners!

Just 2 weeks ago McCain had 270. Obviously the economic bomb has caused him major damage - what I don't get is why it led to a flood towards Obama. How does he inspire hope to fix the mess with so-called swing voters.

re: #139 SpartanWoman

Sorry, but I doubt it. If there is a backlash it will come on softly in whispered tones. I know plenty of people who are literally afraid to say where they stand politically.

It will come after the next round of race riots.

re: #126 ploome hineni

you were unecided?

Never!

But I was asked, back in November of last year, if I'd consider voting for McCain, and I said, "No!" With great certainty and conviction.

Then came Obama....

Now, somehow, I have become positively enthusiastic about voting for McCain!

re: #132 SpartanWoman

I understand but I am refraining from signs his year. I have seen a few McCain stickered cars with serious keying damage

Next there will be a night when windows are broken on homes of Republicans, and cars of Republicans with McCain stickers.

They will all be wearing Green shirts.

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I catch enough grief with my "If you eat meat, you are a murderer" bumper sticker.

JUST KIDDING, I DON'T HAVE ONE. REALLY! I DON'T.

Have a very mild little Vegetarian Bumper sticker. Catch hell from customers with that.

I just want to find a bumper sticker that says, "BUY SOMETHING FROM ME DANG IT!" Have to leave the political bumperstickers for the coexisting prius owners.

Good one FBV...... A conservative vegetarian..... who knew?

I like the "Buy Something From Me Dang It" bumper sticker....... I'm a salesman....... I might have to get some of those printed up.

N.P. Smith's "Meat Is Murder" as I drive to In-N-Out Burger.

re: #10 blues fan

Yeah that is what they told me too. Still waiting.

re: #139 SpartanWoman

Sorry, but I doubt it. If there is a backlash it will come on softly in whispered tones. I know plenty of people who are literally afraid to say where they stand politically.

Crazy. Liberals are such a bunch of loud-mouths. I know I keep referring back to 2000 and 2004, but after each of those elections, people were aghast, saying "where did all these people come from? I don't know more than 2 or 3 people who were voting for Bush". No, it's just that conservatives don't feel like they have to get in people's faces and wear out people's ears.

re: #120 Mr Pancakes

Steve Walsh's "no more" note from Carry on my Wayward Son is one of the best notes ever hit and held.

Mickey Davis hits one of those really great high notes too in "Jane". (you're playin' a game)
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And Steve Perry.

re: #139 SpartanWoman

I know plenty of people who are literally afraid to say where they stand politically.

And that should intensely bother Americans on both sides of the fence.

re: #142 Dianna

Never!

But I was asked, back in November of last year, if I'd consider voting for McCain, and I said, "No!" With great certainty and conviction.

Then came Obama....

Now, somehow, I have become positively enthusiastic about voting for McCain!

Same here. And for me it has to do with Obama, but I've also seen McCain for the great president he'll be.

re: #141 EIDE_Interface

We are not going to have race riots, unless people in general are a whole lot stupider than I have any cause to think they are.

re: #148 zenren

And that should intensely bother Americans on both sides of the fence.

Are you kidding? The left loves it that they have the right on the run. The love it that at work they can spout off any leftist crap and I have to keep my mouth shut to keep my job. They love it, the little fascists they are.

I ordered a McCain Palin hat the day after he named Gov Palin and I just got it a week ago.

I love it, but Shug Jr looks really good in it

re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Steve Walsh's "no more" note from Carry on my Wayward Son is one of the best notes ever hit and held.

Mickey Davis hits one of those really great high notes too in "Jane". (you're playin' a game)
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And Steve Perry.

Well you had me agreeing until you said Steve Perry

re: #143 Shay4l

Next there will be a night when windows are broken on homes of Republicans, and cars of Republicans with McCain stickers.

They will all be wearing Green shirts.

Between the "in your face" behavior of obots and the Obama/Pritzker support for the mullahcrat ic dictator of Iran, I am certain there is going to be some ugly incidents in our future.

I think you are being sarcastic to some degree, but I am quite in ernest here

re: #149 cliffster

Same here. And for me it has to do with Obama, but I've also seen McCain for the great president he'll be.

I don't know that I'll go that far. But at least McCain - who may be absolutely wrong about a great many things - loves this country, and can see when he's gone off track.

Now, I must finish up things around here so dinner will be nice.

Take care, lizards!

re: #153 Mr Pancakes

Well you had me agreeing until you said Steve Perry

heh...

re: #148 zenren

And that should intensely bother Americans on both sides of the fence.

It doesn't bother the left.

re: #151 EIDE_Interface

Are you kidding? The left loves it that they have the right on the run. The love it that at work they can spout off any leftist crap and I have to keep my mouth shut to keep my job. They love it, the little fascists they are.

stop working at DNC headquarters, then

BTW, wrt to the bailout. I'm going to do whatever Rush tells me to. I normally have my own mind on all the issues, but in this case I'm a RushBot.

re: #158 sattv4u2

stop working at DNC headquarters, then

I work at a hi-tech company.

re: #154 SpartanWoman

Between the "in your face" behavior of obots and the Obama/Pritzker support for the mullahcrat ic dictator of Iran, I am certain there is going to be some ugly incidents in our future.

I think you are being sarcastic to some degree, but I am quite in ernest here

Well, I am being overly dramatic, but not sarcastic. Radical lefties have already proven they will be violent at G8 meetings and firebombing truck distributorships and animal testing labs.

re: #150 Dianna

We are not going to have race riots, unless people in general are a whole lot stupider than I have any cause to think they are.

You have too high opinion of people, the MSM has set this up as a vote for McCain is a vote for slavery and racism.

re: #140 EIDE_Interface

Just 2 weeks ago McCain had 270. Obviously the economic bomb has caused him major damage - what I don't get is why it led to a flood towards Obama. How does he inspire hope to fix the mess with so-called swing voters.

Let things unfold, let the shock of the news set in. Let the truth of what actually caused all this get out. And let McCain get his bounce for his performance in the debates.

Then let McCain and Republican affiliated groups unleash the fire of Obama's past on him in the last 2 weeks.

In the end, it'll come down to turnout. Even if a state is a leaner towards Obama, are people who are, "eh, Obama I guess" really inspired to make the trip down to the polls?

The left are disturbed.

Several thousand people showed up to protest Iran last week. Most were actually there to support Governor Palin. Not many democrats I'm sure.

Several hundred leftists plan to protest an appearance by Governor Palin on Oct 3rd.

Ignore the next Hitler, a man who has killed millions and wants to kill millions more, and vehemently protest an American Governor running for VP.

The left are truly disgusting.

re: #160 EIDE_Interface

I work at a hi-tech company.

stop working at a "hi tech company" that won't let you express your views without recrimination and allows the other side

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh...

Still friends?

re: #160 EIDE_Interface

I work at a hi-tech company.

I'll bet the same door that lets you into the place, lets you out of it! Are they forcing you to stay?

re: #155 Dianna

I don't know that I'll go that far. But at least McCain - who may be absolutely wrong about a great many things - loves this country, and can see when he's gone off track.

Now, I must finish up things around here so dinner will be nice.

Take care, lizards!

Hmm, let me amend that. I think McCain will veto bills that have ridiculous spending, I think he will take a stand against growing the federal government. This will make him a great president.

re: #164 Racer X

The left are disturbed.

Several thousand people showed up to protest Iran last week. Most were actually there to support Governor Palin. Not many democrats I'm sure.

Several hundred leftists plan to protest an appearance by Governor Palin on Oct 3rd.

Ignore the next Hitler, a man who has killed millions and wants to kill millions more, and vehemently protest an American Governor running for VP.

The left are truly disgusting.

The protest in NYC this year was a shadow of the one last year, about 1/10 the size. Pritzker had a party for him and the media is silently complicit and they will remain that way.

Go Badgers! Down with the Islamistmilitantextremistfootwashing Wolverines

re: #160 EIDE_Interface

I work at a hi-tech company.

lol, "EIDE_Interface" - I never would have pegged that as a hi-tech nick!

EIDE_Interface says:

Alas the reality is what RCP has to say on the matter. +4.0 in the national poll and +65 with the EC for Bambi.

Thanks for the laugh.

re: #169 SpartanWoman

The protest in NYC this year was a shadow of the one last year, about 1/10 the size. Pritzker had a party for him and the media is silently complicit and they will remain that way.

Where were all the New Yorkers? Asleep? How quickly they have forgotten.

re: #162 SpartanWoman

You have too high opinion of people, the MSM has set this up as a vote for McCain is a vote for slavery and racism.

The irony is it's more the reverse. Socialism leads to more regulations and taxes, and postmodernists are very much into race.

re: #153 Mr Pancakes

Well you had me agreeing until you said Steve Perry

People love him or hate him. I think Steve Perry was a great lead vocalist.

If anyone needs another bit of proof that "fundamentalist" Islam is terrorism, read "Nationalism, Secularism, Apostasy, and Usury in Islam," by "Prof. Dr. Ala'Eddin Kharofa," published by A.S. Noordeen, ISBN: 967-9963-92-6. Kharofa makes the usual defenses of Jihad as "fighting the disbelievers," including offensive attacks and killing apostates after giving some, not all, a chance at "tauba" (repentance). But if the apostate does not repent, or if the apostasy involves "insulting" Muhammad, then he is to be killed.

By the way, Kharofa is an Iraqi and originally published this book in 1994. Imagine that: Jihadist theology and politics in Iraq before 2003. Don't be surprised if the man has Al-Qaeda contacts....

re: #171 cliffster

lol, "EIDE_Interface" - I never would have pegged that as a hi-tech nick!

Behind the times. SATA interface is in.

re: #47 Mr Pancakes

Hire a private detective to watch the signs with a videotape machine. Then catch them and put on the news, tv,radio,internet,newspapers. Get them fired,destroy their lives. Sound like an insane waste of time and resources? Yeah. And the liberal press wouldn't care anyway.

Maybe Michigan should quit the Big Ten and just play little schools like Appalachian state so they can win some games.

/ oh wait.....

snicker

re: #167 sattv4u2

I'll bet the same door that lets you into the place, lets you out of it! Are they forcing you to stay?

Well, one does need a job. I work at a hi-tech company too, and while I don't think my job would in jeopardy if I was as outspoken about my views as my liberal colleagues, I certainly think I'd be viewed as a troublemaker. I think that's true of most places, maybe I'm wrong.

re: #172 Geepers

EIDE_Interface says:

Thanks for the laugh.

RCP is as close to reality as we get until Nov. 4th.

People have like a 2 second attention span these days. There are many who haven't forgotten - take heart!

re: #166 Mr Pancakes

Still friends?

Yeah. But, I could probably still be a vegan if it wasn't for pancakes and all other forms of cake (not including crab cakes).

re: #150 Dianna

We are not going to have race riots, unless people in general are a whole lot stupider than I have any cause to think they are.

If McCain wins you will have some race riots, mark my words.
I can never understand though, why they are so stupid that they wreck their OWN neighborhoods.

'course in my neck of the woods, any kind of riot would be hazardous to ones health ; )

re: #173 Racer X

Where were all the New Yorkers? Asleep? How quickly they have forgotten.

Some stayed home due to the lack of politicians at this year's event. The political celebs really do draw the crowds at these things. Some dem partisans do not want to undermine their candidate's "let's negotiate" position by hating on Iran, some conservatives were very insulted that their support was deemed unwelcome.

If Hillary hadn't had such a cow (been such a cow) about Palin and the dems could control their hatred of her for a couple hours the event would have been huge and would have been high profile.

Never mess with a man who will dive in 100lbs of crap just to splash two drops on you.

---HDrepub

re: #180 cliffster

Well, one does need a job. I work at a hi-tech company too, and while I don't think my job would in jeopardy if I was as outspoken about my views as my liberal colleagues, I certainly think I'd be viewed as a troublemaker. I think that's true of most places, maybe I'm wrong.

Point being, there are choices. 1st rule of thumb, don't discuss politics/ religion/ personal life at work.
Someone tells me it's his anniversary, fine ,, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY ,,, leave early, I'll cover for you. They tell me their kid got an "A" in a math test.. GOOD FOR HIM ,,, Give him a high five for me. They want to tell me about a new restaurant they liked ,, GREAT,,,, lets go there for lunch

Beyond that, keep that 1st rule of thumb in mind

OR ,,, if you choose not too, don't complain about the backlash, or man-up enough to take it and give it back two fold

It's sad that it appears to be true that the African-American vote can be bought for a couple hundred a month and false public vilifying of the other party as racist.

My favorite Violin Piece, the Third Movement of Beethoven's Violin Concerto:

re: #189 Archimedes

I like Charlie Daniels "Fire on the mountain run boys run" suite.

Ducks and runs...

re: #69 Archimedes

The media is spiking the polls- putting more demonrats in it, ect. It's all a fake.

re: #187 sattv4u2

Point being, there are choices. 1st rule of thumb, don't discuss politics/ religion/ personal life at work.
Someone tells me it's his anniversary, fine ,, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY ,,, leave early, I'll cover for you. They tell me their kid got an "A" in a math test.. GOOD FOR HIM ,,, Give him a high five for me. They want to tell me about a new restaurant they liked ,, GREAT,,,, lets go there for lunch

Beyond that, keep that 1st rule of thumb in mind

OR ,,, if you choose not too, don't complain about the backlash, or man-up enough to take it and give it back two fold

Agreed. Hard to do, though. Twice I've gotten a new job and sworn I was going to stay away from forming any close personal relationships, but you spend all day with these people. But, now I'm in my thirties, with a family, so it'd probably be easier next time.

re: #187 sattv4u2

But why do liberals feel so FREE to spout at work? With no regard to anyone else.

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People love him or hate him. I think Steve Perry was a great lead vocalist.

You got that right....... I don't think it was so much that I disliked Steve's voice..... I think it was more that I didn't connect with Journey's songs.

You can hammer on me now..... I like Geddy Lee of Rush and Jon Anderson of Yes.

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like Charlie Daniels "Fire on the mountain run boys run" suite.

Ducks and runs...

I know Charlie Daniels via the Internet.

re: #188 Shay4l

It's sad that it appears to be true that the African-American vote can be bought for a couple hundred a month and false public vilifying of the other party as racist.

what's worse is that several of my partners @ work just happen to be african American. very bright, educated nice people. Far more conservative in their family values than I am.

Yet they are very pro Obama because as they told me, they can't vote for McCain and set back " womens and minority rights" back 50 years.

I just don't get it

When will the McCain people start talking about his family? Or has Mac said no to this idea?

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like Charlie Daniels "Fire on the mountain run boys run" suite.

Ducks and runs...

That one's my speed.

re: #72 zenren

You are supposed to read him the riot act OR call the police. But in this case, COOL!

this strong arm tactic w/ obama henchmen in missouri is a serious red flag of what he thinks he could do if elected potus.
it's outrageous that this person, as a candidate, has such audacity to get gov/t workers on board to intimidate citizens and try to deprive them of their 1st amendment rights.
this is how fast he would take all our rights away, if he could.
i'm really shocked by this. it is a stalin tactic, plain and simple.
something hitler would do.
this is how fascists gain power. they just take it.
this really needs to be front and center on everyone's mind.
obama needs to be exposed for the thug that he is.
he is acting like a fcking communist.

re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. But, I could probably still be a vegan if it wasn't for pancakes and all other forms of cake (not including crab cakes).

Vegan is no good man....... butter, milk, and eggs are your friends.

re: #196 Shug

what's worse is that several of my partners @ work just happen to be african American. very bright, educated nice people. Far more conservative in their family values than I am.

Yet they are very pro Obama because as they told me, they can't vote for McCain and set back " womens and minority rights" back 50 years.

I just don't get it

Do like Kos and say "Screw em".

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like Charlie Daniels "Fire on the mountain run boys run" suite.

Ducks and runs...

But you have to love Beethoven. That violin piece is astounding. Make sure you have a good sound system. No dinky lap top speakers!

re: #196 Shug

what's worse is that several of my partners @ work just happen to be african American. very bright, educated nice people. Far more conservative in their family values than I am.

Yet they are very pro Obama because as they told me, they can't vote for McCain and set back " womens and minority rights" back 50 years.

I just don't get it

Sounds like they don't either.

re: #192 cliffster

Agreed. Hard to do, though. Twice I've gotten a new job and sworn I was going to stay away from forming any close personal relationships, but you spend all day with these people. But, now I'm in my thirties, with a family, so it'd probably be easier next time.

I'm not saying don't develope freindships, but that comes over time. just like when you were in school, you hung around with people that liked whaht you liked, had the same interests as you did. If you were on the chess club and were totally non-athletic you didn't hang with the Offensive Linemen (streotype, I know, but I'm making a point)

re: #194 Mr Pancakes

Nope. We are in agreeance.

BTW, agreeance is my word! I made it up!

re: #200 nyc redneck

this strong arm tactic w/ obama henchmen in missouri is a serious red flag of what he thinks he could do if elected potus.
it's outrageous that this person, as a candidate, has such audacity to get gov/t workers on board to intimidate citizens and try to deprive them of their 1st amendment rights.
this is how fast he would take all our rights away, if he could.
i'm really shocked by this. it is a stalin tactic, plain and simple.
something hitler would do.
this is how fascists gain power. they just take it.
this really needs to be front and center on everyone's mind.
obama needs to be exposed for the thug that he is.
he is acting like a fcking communist.

We're in for a psuedo-dictatorship under Bambi for sure. WIth the MSM acting like Pravda, he can basically do whatever the hell he wants.

re: #200 nyc redneck

this strong arm tactic w/ obama henchmen in missouri is a serious red flag of what he thinks he could do if elected potus.
it's outrageous that this person, as a candidate, has such audacity to get gov/t workers on board to intimidate citizens and try to deprive them of their 1st amendment rights.
this is how fast he would take all our rights away, if he could.
i'm really shocked by this. it is a stalin tactic, plain and simple.
something hitler would do.
this is how fascists gain power. they just take it.
this really needs to be front and center on everyone's mind.
obama needs to be exposed for the thug that he is.
he is acting like a fcking communist.

I don't get why they keep writing stuff down when I tell them to get lost, they wrote down my license plate today also

re: #200 nyc redneck

this strong arm tactic w/ obama henchmen in missouri is a serious red flag of what he thinks he could do if elected potus.
it's outrageous that this person, as a candidate, has such audacity to get gov/t workers on board to intimidate citizens and try to deprive them of their 1st amendment rights.
this is how fast he would take all our rights away, if he could.
i'm really shocked by this. it is a stalin tactic, plain and simple.
something hitler would do.
this is how fascists gain power. they just take it.
this really needs to be front and center on everyone's mind.
obama needs to be exposed for the thug that he is.
he is acting like a fcking communist.

I sent a letter out about this to the Vice Chairman of the FEC, the McCain campaign, the ACLU, two local tv stations, the KC Star and The St. Louis Post dispatch.
I also emailed everyone on my email list and emailed Sean Hannity.

re: #207 EIDE_Interface

We're in for a psuedo-dictatorship under Bambi for sure. WIth the MSM acting like Pravda, he can basically do whatever the hell he wants.

Basically that's what Hill and Bill did for eight years wasn't it?

OK, how about the little Palin fan in the avatar?

EIDE_Interface (#181),

RCP is as close to reality as we get until Nov. 4th.

If you say so.

But I must say that as the son of a doctoral statistician "scientific" "opinion" polls do make me laugh.

re: #208 BBev

I don't get why they keep writing stuff down when I tell them to get lost, they wrote down my license plate today also

What are you talking about?

re: #205 sattv4u2

I'm not saying don't develope freindships, but that comes over time. just like when you were in school, you hung around with people that liked whaht you liked, had the same interests as you did. If you were on the chess club and were totally non-athletic you didn't hang with the Offensive Linemen (streotype, I know, but I'm making a point)

I like the book, "How to Be CEO", has a few pages on personal relationships. Not just for aspiring CEO's...

re: #200 nyc redneck

He is one. The first time he ran for office I believe he ran as one. Be prepared for show trials and expropriations

re: #210 HDrepub

Basically that's what Hill and Bill did for eight years wasn't it?

Bill Clinton was nothing compared to what we're gonna get under Bambi. At least with Clinton you knew that he was more of a "get along" type. Bambi has real designs to remake America under his own image.

re: #211 Shug

awwww!

re: #193 EIDE_Interface

But why do liberals feel so FREE to spout at work? With no regard to anyone else.

perhaps where you work, but where i work it's 70% conservative, 30% liberal.
I have worked places where it's the reverse, and as I stated in my #187 ,....."1st rule of thumb, don't discuss politics/ religion/ personal life at work."

re: #196 Shug

what's worse is that several of my partners @ work just happen to be african American. very bright, educated nice people. Far more conservative in their family values than I am.

Yet they are very pro Obama because as they told me, they can't vote for McCain and set back " womens and minority rights" back 50 years.

I just don't get it

That's the Frankenstein's Monster of the MSM's brainwashing of 40 years. "Four legs good, two legs baaaad". Guess who's the two legs party.

re: #212 Geepers

EIDE_Interface (#181),

If you say so.

But I must say that as the son of a doctoral statistician "scientific" "opinion" polls do make me laugh.

Well Rasmussen and Gallup are considered very good.

re: #211 Shug

OK, how about the little Palin fan in the avatar?

Cool, and a pretty baby too.

re: #213 Typicalwhitey

What are you talking about?

Obama people that keep coming to my door every Saturday and Sunday

re: #203 Archimedes

But you have to love Beethoven. That violin piece is astounding. Make sure you have a good sound system. No dinky lap top speakers!

Was kidding. Love Ludwig B. My favorite piece of music of all is Moonlight Sonata.

re: #208 BBev

I don't get why they keep writing stuff down when I tell them to get lost, they wrote down my license plate today also

mind games

re: #211 Shug

OK, how about the little Palin fan in the avatar?

Precious! :)

re: #208 BBev

I don't get why they keep writing stuff down when I tell them to get lost, they wrote down my license plate today also

Seriously? They wrote down your license plate number?

re: #196 Shug

what's worse is that several of my partners @ work just happen to be african American. very bright, educated nice people. Far more conservative in their family values than I am.

Yet they are very pro Obama because as they told me, they can't vote for McCain and set back " womens and minority rights" back 50 years.

I just don't get it

I would hesitate to bring up the African-American issue with them, but I would certainly marshall all of the facts concerning the two men's records when it comes to women and women's rights. Starting with the guy the women in the Tailhook incident turned to for justice - John McCain. Who has more women on his staff than Obama does and pays them more than Obama does his female staff. (That is all public information in the Congressional record.)

re: #203 Archimedes

But you have to love Beethoven. That violin piece is astounding. Make sure you have a good sound system. No dinky lap top speakers!

Beautiful for sure, but this finger snapping syncopation is pretty dang cool Twisted

re: #223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was kidding. Love Ludwig B. My favorite piece of music of all is Moonlight Sonata.

Too bad old Beets only wrote one violin concerto. He just couldn't be bothered to write any more.

re: #219 Shay4l

That's the Frankenstein's Monster of the MSM's brainwashing of 40 years. "Four legs good, two legs baaaad". Guess who's the two legs party.

I think even more influential is the public education system, and then on top of that universities and colleges which are very left wing as a rule. In fact, these are the entities that make the msm what they are.

re: #222 BBev

Obama people that keep coming to my door every Saturday and Sunday

They wrote down your LICENSE PLATE NUMBER?
I would contact the police after I ripped them a new one!

re: #224 cliffster

mind games

My wife is very ill and they keep waking her up it's really pissing me off

re: #206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nope. We are in agreeance.

BTW, agreeance is my word! I made it up!

I made up a word once...... "tintle". It's the sound mesquite charcoal makes (must be mesquite) when it gets hot....... it kinda makes a "pinging" sound.

re: #222 BBev

Obama people that keep coming to my door every Saturday and Sunday

A little intimidation therapy for you?

re: #226 SpartanWoman

Seriously? They wrote down your license plate number?

I've seen that as a union tactic.

re: #231 Typicalwhitey

They wrote down your LICENSE PLATE NUMBER?
I would contact the police after I ripped them a new one!

I work with the local Police

re: #233 Mr Pancakes

That's a good one. Exactly the sound.

re: #234 SpartanWoman

A little intimidation therapy for you?

Ya I don't think that will work on me.

Greetings & salutations & what is up, what is up?
Does anyone know , did McCain go back to Washington?

re: #208 BBev

I don't get why they keep writing stuff down when I tell them to get lost, they wrote down my license plate today also

Get a small digital camera and take their pictures. If you can lay hold of the kind that will do a short video, tape them while you are at it. Make sure that you get their names - and badge numbers if they are wearing a badge. Ask for identification before you exchange any words or information with them and make a show of your own of prominently recording that information.

Two can play the intimidation game.

re: #223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was kidding. Love Ludwig B. My favorite piece of music of all is Moonlight Sonata.

Awesome... Moonlight Sontata, third movement again (like 'em fast), is among my favorite piano pieces. In my view, the sounds that come from that are almost un-piano like at points.

re: #232 BBev

Just tell them if they show up again you are calling the police.
If that doesn't work, contact the local campaign office.
If THAT doesn't work, then contact a local newspaper/tv station, tell them you need some help on this issue and ask if THEY will contact the campaign on your behalf.

This will stop them!

re: #236 BBev

I work with the local Police

So you know you have to wait for the crime to get any action

re: #228 JustAGal

Beautiful for sure, but this finger snapping syncopation is pretty dang cool Twisted

I love it - no driver on the top!

re: #227 galloping granny

I would hesitate to bring up the African-American issue with them, but I would certainly marshall all of the facts concerning the two men's records when it comes to women and women's rights. Starting with the guy the women in the Tailhook incident turned to for justice - John McCain. Who has more women on his staff than Obama does and pays them more than Obama does his female staff. (That is all public information in the Congressional record.)

I didn't bring it up. I mentioned to them that Obama would cost us several thousand dollars a year in taxes if he's elected.
They said that it was worth it.

So I asked if they would mind paying for my tax increase too since I would be voting for McCain.

I know when the battle is already lost and I don't waste my time. If highly educated, smart people can be so dumb about something like this, I really don't think I can change their minds so I don't bother.

re: #230 Archimedes

I think even more influential is the public education system, and then on top of that universities and colleges which are very left wing as a rule. In fact, these are the entities that make the msm what they are.

That is also a huge contributor to the herd-like mentality of the left. I was just commenting on the African-Americans that they worked with.

re: #241 Archimedes

Awesome... Moonlight Sontata, third movement again (like 'em fast), is among my favorite piano pieces. In my view, the sounds that come from that are almost un-piano like at points.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Ever tried his late string quartets? Truly mind-blowing stuff with lots of abstract thought.

re: #216 EIDE_Interface

Bill Clinton was nothing compared to what we're gonna get under Bambi. At least with Clinton you knew that he was more of a "get along" type. Bambi has real designs to remake America under his own image.

I fear that you are right. The Donks feel it's their right to rule America and they will hang on to power anyway possible, even if it means the destruction of America.

re: #245 Shug

I didn't bring it up. I mentioned to them that Obama would cost us several thousand dollars a year in taxes if he's elected.
They said that it was worth it.

So I asked if they would mind paying for my tax increase too since I would be voting for McCain.

I know when the battle is already lost and I don't waste my time. If highly educated, smart people can be so dumb about something like this, I really don't think I can change their minds so I don't bother.

You should tell them that voting for someone just on the basis of their skin color is racist.

re: #240 galloping granny

Get a small digital camera and take their pictures. If you can lay hold of the kind that will do a short video, tape them while you are at it. Make sure that you get their names - and badge numbers if they are wearing a badge. Ask for identification before you exchange any words or information with them and make a show of your own of prominently recording that information.

Two can play the intimidation game.

Or next time I will show them my Police ID or my State Police ID. I'm on a few boards that give me a little power if I want to use it.

re: #208 BBev

I don't get why they keep writing stuff down when I tell them to get lost, they wrote down my license plate today also

re: #226 SpartanWoman

re: #235 debutaunt

BBEV ,, turn the tables. As they're walking down your driveway away from your house, follow them, take a photo of them with and take THEIR plate number

re: #243 SpartanWoman

So you know you have to wait for the crime to get any action

yup

re: #222 BBev

Obama people that keep coming to my door every Saturday and Sunday

You do NOT have to put up with that. Even if you rent, no one is allowed to disturb your "quiet enjoyment" without your permission. Call the police. Serve them with a No Trespass order. In many states all you have to do is post a No Soliciting sign on your property and you can have them arrested. Be sure that you do exactly that.

re: #245 Shug

I didn't bring it up. I mentioned to them that Obama would cost us several thousand dollars a year in taxes if he's elected.
They said that it was worth it.

So I asked if they would mind paying for my tax increase too since I would be voting for McCain.

I know when the battle is already lost and I don't waste my time. If highly educated, smart people can be so dumb about something like this, I really don't think I can change their minds so I don't bother.

I like the response though. Mind if I steal it?