What an asshole.

If he does it against the family's wishes, and STILL can't remember the name...what a loser.

Why did they ask him to stop?

Well, the mother hasn't said anything, and she was the one who gave it to Obama.

He didn't hear it. His ears are too small.

/maybe his nose will grow.

what a punk.

From Wizbang

re: #3 jimboster

Did you read the article? Maybe you ought to start with that, jimbob...

One more reason to loathe Barry.

They better be careful, his Truth Squads might litigate.

I couldn't BELIEVE it when he actually STUMBLED over the name. What an incredible JERK. And now that he can't remember the name? I think this deserves an AD from some independent group with the family explaining why the asked him not to wear the bracelet. Sink this sucker.

I'm sure not remembering his son's name won't help matters.

re: #4 Cap'n DOC

He didn't hear it. His ears are too small.

/maybe his nose will grow.

Now THAT was funny! Upding for clever comment!

re: #3 jimboster

Well, the mother hasn't said anything, and she was the one who gave it to Obama.

Read the story. His mother doesn't want him to wear it.

Did they ask him to stop before or after the debate? It sounds like before? In which case, the sin is compounded, in my eyes.

Shockingly?

I'm not shocked. BHO is a lying opportunist. The only people that will be shocked are those who voted for him, if he is elected.

A man who would do this cannot believe in the Judgment. What an insufficient specimen of humanity is this 0bama thing.

re: #3 jimboster
With all due respect, and while I don't like using them as a reference " Newsbusters has learned that the parents of fallen soldier Sergeant Ryan David Jopek didn't want Barack Obama to wear their son's bracelet any longer because he was making their son's death a campaign issue. He's ignoring their request." makes it appear that the mother doesn't want Obama wearing it either.
[Link: wizbangblog.com...]

I am so unobjective. I believe that Barry is a despicable individual & will exploit anyone. Get the kids a puppy , you jerk!

#15

No, they won't be shocked if he gets in no matter how horrible he is. Psychologically they will defend their choice till the very end. It's hard to say "I made a mistake", most people can't do it.

Now, now, now - ya'll know this is just an angry ex-husband trying to get back at his wife. Or so the media will say if they mention the bracelet at all.

Obambi doesn't listen to any of the 'little' people. His wisdom is legendary and knows what is best for ordinary Americans. He looks out for his friends and if elected Tony won't spend another night on a prison mattress.

/s

I just thought of something - Perhaps MSM feels they have to do the left-leaning thing just to make this election cycle 'fair'. This guy should be finding himself a shovel and a small plot where he can quietly dig a hole for himself.

They asked him to stop wearing it and 0bama still can't even remember the soldiers name? Pathetic and disgusting.

The left has no scruple when it comes to using our service men and women as props. This sort of shameless exploitation is nothing new.

re: #20 galloping granny

Now, now, now - ya'll know this is just an angry ex-husband trying to get back at his wife. Or so the media will say if they mention the bracelet at all.

I don't see it being pushed anywhere on the MSM. What a shocker?

re: #7 Cap'n DOC
Hey Cap'n DOC - I wouldn't worry yourself over jimbob:

Registered since: Mar 9, 2005 at 1:43 pm

No. of comments posted: 35
No. of links posted: 0

Yet another sleeper! Geez, we seem to be getting a lot of bizzare comments from folks who've been registered for years and haven't hardly posted at all.

My Democratic father in law, who lives in Missouri, has not even heard about the crap going down in St. Louis - way to go MSM you fricken losers. I just printed everything out and mailed it to him.

This has got to be devastating to the family. Be sure to read entire article as it states the mother didn't want to make a fuss about it because she was afraid it would hurt his campaign.

Obama apparently doesn't care how he is hurting the family.

re: #7 Cap'n DOC

Did you read the article? Maybe you ought to start with that, jimbob...

Yeah, right. Dipshits like jimbo don't read shit. They love the 0bama.

Another blow to Barry:

ACORN outrage removes affordable housing provision

The ACORN issue is off the table.

After several days of rage from conservative activists regarding a provision in the bailout bill that would send some of the profits from the sale of distressed assets the goverment buys into an affordable housing trust fund, congressional negotiators have removed section 105(d) of the bailout proposal, according to aides on both side.

ACORN, a Democratic ally, was not specifically directed any funds in the previous proposal, but money that went to state and local governments could then have been divvied out to the organization, which the GOP said was a deal breaker. Fevered opposition to the provision had become a viral sensation.

It appears that, with the removal of the affordable housing trust fund, all of the proceeds from the sale of assets will now go to retire the debt.

If I were such a parent--I'd be very, very angry about this. If the parents are also McCain supporters, hopefully, they will be making enough noise to make it impossible for anyone to ignore them.

This finacial crisuis is a gift for Obama. It changed the conversation & must look to he & Michelle as their opening to reshape society & punish the middle class.

re: #30 loppyd

Hahahaha. The commies don't get squat.

re: #25 Nevergiveup

Won't happen. Not with the Wise One. Blech.

I just watch Meet the Press - Bill Clinton would not say that Obama was a great man as he has said about McCain.

I don't actually remember Obama wearing the bracelet before the debate, though. It seemed like an awfully convenient "fashion accessory" for him to have.

Makes me wonder if he dug it up off some pile especially for that night, and returned it there soon after (considering he couldn't even remember the soldier's name....)

re: #20 galloping granny

I suggest some LizardEyes be watchin' very, very closely from here on out. If the bracelet remains on, the gloves come off. If it comes off, he's reminded of the fact why he's no longer wearing it.

Obama is sociopathic, vain, and power mad. Any disinformation is OK in the name of furthering the great cause!

Let's see if he gets his free speech killing thug squad out to silence the family before it's too late!

re: #23 Sharmuta
"Pathetic and disgusting."

barely describes

how I feel about this issue - and on top of it all the s.o.b. (Obama) had to read the bracelet to remember the fallen troopers name!
I could use much stronger language than did you, but am trying to cut back on using it! LOL!

re: #26 realwest

There's a reason for it, Real. I checked his stats before I commented...

re: #30 loppyd

Another blow to Barry:

ACORN outrage removes affordable housing provision

The ACORN issue is off the table.

Sanity prevails? I'm shocked!

/no sarc

0bama can't even honor this simple request from the mother to stop wearing the bracelet? What a classless opportunist.

re: #26 realwest

Maybe too busy posting ...uh...elsewhere?

re: #39 realwest

No, realwest- I'm trying to control myself. Believe me.

he is so stupid and arrogant,
it never occurred to him that he should NOT fumble the name.
that is how out of touch he is. it was not a priority for obama to show respect to a guy who was just a soldier.
by remembering his name.
unforgivable.

re: #3 jimboster

Well, the mother hasn't said anything, and she was the one who gave it to Obama.

What do you have to say now? Cat got your tongue?

re: #27 West Coast Freedom Good for you! I'm hoping that the TV Stations and the US Attornies office notified by Typicalwhitey do something about it.

But that's not a change he can believe in.

re: #30 loppyd

Another blow to Barry:

ACORN outrage removes affordable housing provision

The ACORN issue is off the table.

I will believe it when I see the final draft of the bill on the Congressional website.

Wow thats pretty f'd up. Way to use a deceased soldier's memory as a political tool, one he isn't even capable of remembering entirely. Yet another new low for Barry.

re: #41 Spiny Norman

Sanity prevails? I'm shocked!

/no sarc

For now.

As with everything this guy does, it was a cynical effort to advance his own cause by appearing to do something without really doing it. It goes along with most of whatever this guy does. Heaven help us if he is elected. I am trying as much as possible to get "off the grid". Not because I am some sort of rampant green. I am not. I think the whole CO2 stuff is a farce, we are entering a period of global cooling rather than global warming, but I want minimum exposure to exterior forces going forward.

re: #36 bigpinkfluffybunny

I don't actually remember Obama wearing the bracelet before the debate, though. It seemed like an awfully convenient "fashion accessory" for him to have.

Makes me wonder if he dug it up off some pile especially for that night, and returned it there soon after (considering he couldn't even remember the soldier's name....)

The first time I noticed it was in a picture taken a week or ten days ago. Let me go look and see what I can dig up.

re: #35 loppyd

I just watch Meet the Press - Bill Clinton would not say that Obama was a great man as he has said about McCain.

I'm beginning to warm towards Clinton (God, forgive me), but he continues to say things--like giving McCain credit for trying to introduce legislation to regulate Fannie and Freddie--and being defeated by the dems. He also defended McCain's decision to return to Washington last week. I know this is cynical of me, and I know it has something to do with Hillary next election cycle, but it must be very galling to the Dems to hear Clinton saying these things.

re: #46 MandyManners

What do you have to say now? Cat got your tongue?

That was his one comment (his self-imposed limit) for the month. No matter how bad he wants to answer you back he can't do it.

re: #35 loppyd

I just watch Meet the Press - Bill Clinton would not say that Obama was a great man as he has said about McCain.

How COULD anyone say that about Obama? What has he done that is "great"? Doesn't greatness require accomplishments of some kind?

Obama lover I used to work with called him a "beautiful" man. I wanted to hurl.

re: #30 loppyd

Hey there {loppyd} how are ya today? I'm sure glad the ACORN language was taken out. Would love to read the entire bill before it's voted on however, as I just don't trust the Democrats Leftists in congress at all.

BBIAW

But Obama is so elegant, according to Krauthammer.
How could he? /

GOP must make a big deal about removing donk pork from bill.

As for Obama refusal to honor a Gold Star mother's request, did anyone expect better of this narcissist?

re: #55 rightwinger3

That was his one comment (his self-imposed limit) for the month. No matter how bad he wants to answer you back he can't do it.

What good does it do him to drop a turd here?

re: #46 MandyManners

Mandy, I love your CANDOR!

re: #46 MandyManners

Hit & Run. He'll be back with more of the same. They never learn.

re: #40 Cap'n DOC
OK - what do you think the reason is?

re: #59 kansas

But Obama is so elegant, according to Krauthammer.
How could he? /

Obama is a magician. He was a less than mediocre high school student.
Yet he got an academic scholarship to college.

Clinton also said the first coversation he ever had with Barry was the one in Harlem a few weeks ago.....in his response to whether he thought Barry was a great man.

Here's how the final bailout package will look compared to the origional Paulson/Frank/Dodd bill.
DCExaminer
( I wanted to put this in the Spinoffs but the "Categories" section wouldn't load. Charles: Vista SP1 & IE7. No problem with spinoffs up to now.)

In memory of Sgt. Ryan P Baumann

God bless Ryan, his family, and all the men and women who have put themselves in harms way to protect our country.

re: #61 MandyManners

What good does it do him to drop a turd here?

I guess to see people like me and you call him a dipshit.

#65
Affirmative action.

This all makes Obama look pretty calculating and blood chillingly callous, doesn't it?

Among a few other things, yes. Yes it does.

If you go to the Newsbusters source...he's been doing this since MARCH. Six months!

re: #53 galloping granny

the bracelet goes with the flag pin, ya know. It'll come off after the election, whoever wins.

obama doesn't give a shit abt. that soldier or his mother.
it was a "hey, look at me" moment for obama.
very childish, very inappropriate.
he is NOT a grown up.
he is NOT fit to lead.

re: #68 Terp Mole
Thank you for that, Terp Mole. Thank you.

re: #65 opnion

Obama is a magician. He was a less than mediocre high school student.
Yet he got an academic scholarship to college.

Didn't he graduate Summa Cum Dipshit from Harvard? Wow. He'll be our first affirmative action Prezzydent.

#73
And how about the American Flag, will that be retired, too, if Barry should get in?

re: #58 goddessoftheclassroom

BBIAW

((Goddess)) smooch smooch.....

re: #74 nyc redneck

obama doesn't give a shit abt. that soldier or his mother.
it was a "hey, look at me" moment for obama.
very childish, very inappropriate.
he is NOT a grown up.
he is NOT fit to lead.

I just can't believe the mother gave it to him in the first place.

re: #6 goddessoftheclassroom

From Wizbang

goddess -

I'll give Sen. Obama the benefit of the doubt as to wearing the bracelet. As to not remembering the name on it - NOT SO MUCH.

-S-

re: #58 goddessoftheclassroom

BBIAW

I give up. What does this mean?

re: #74 nyc redneck
Good morning to you {nyc redneck}

he is NOT a grown up.
he is NOT fit to lead.

AMEN. And I still can't figure out how the Dems stuck us with Obama in the first damn place!

re: #77 jemima

#73
And how about the American Flag, will that be retired, too, if Barry should get in?

Did you see the Luntz focus group? I think they were all on crack. Old white guys saying McCain seemed cranky. President gotta be Dr. Phil now?

Since the mother is an Obama supporter, I expect right about now Obama is contacting her and instructing her to say he had permission to mention her son's name in the debate. It's a total lie, but, as always, he'll get away with it...

re: #81 katemaclaren

Be
Back
In
A
While?

re: #64 realwest

It's the 'season', Real. I'll bet the guy last commented on the stolen election thingie, only I ain't gonna waste my time looking through the archives.

Any person willing to use a fallen soldier and not honor the request of the parents to stop is a person who should never be allowed to be the CinC of those troops.

He's not fit to even wipe their boots.

re: #81 katemaclaren

I give up. What does this mean?

Be Back In A While....

re: #81 katemaclaren
BBIAW = Be Back In A While.

Okay, he is not wearing the bracelet on any of the pics on the first 8 or so pages of pics that come up on google images. He is not wearing the bracelet on February 10, 2008 in USATODAY. [Link: www.usatoday.com...]

And he is not wearing it at his convention - very clearly. Picture 5 out of 49, he is hugging Joe Biden and his left hand is clearly visible.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

He does have a bracelet on in picture number 8 of that length - taken August 20. And the rest of the pictures in that series which show his hand seem to have the bracelet.

re: #76 kansas

Didn't he graduate Summa Cum Dipshit from Harvard? Wow. He'll be our first affirmative action Prezzydent.

Exactly right. President of Harvard Law Review, but sumitted nothing?

I'm sure Krauthammer is using elegant as code for "elitist"

re: #81 katemaclaren

I give up. What does this mean?

Be back in a while. That's my guess.

that is just plain creepy

re: #9 mbruce

They better be careful, his Truth Squads might litigate.

i think we show challenge the truth squads.
i want to drive to st. louis and go down town, stand on an apple crate and just shout HUSSEIN over and over again.

re: #84 gregg

Since the mother is an Obama supporter, I expect right about now Obama is contacting her and instructing her to say he had permission to mention her son's name in the debate. It's a total lie, but, as always, he'll get away with it...

I bet she'll not be a supporter for long.

obamalama is a disgusting human being. I rank him right there beside cindy sheehag.

Good morning PG, realwest, sharmuta.....

re: #94 phoenixgirl

that is just plain creepy

He might as well just pee on his grave.

re: #96 MandyManners

I bet she'll not be a supporter for long.

Oh and good morning to you to Mandy... ;)

re: #97 newsjunkie_ky

obamalama is a disgusting human being. I rank him right there beside cindy sheehag.

But according to the KC Star, he is professorial, and well reasoned.

re: #65 opnion

Obama is a magician. He was a less than mediocre high school student.
Yet he got an academic scholarship to college.

Think of his age. He is a product of Affirmative Action. As is his wife, who has clearly stated as much.

#83 Kansas

No, I don't watch the Luntz groups. There is a limit to how much stupidity I can take.
P.S. I lived in Clearwater KS for 11 months.

{dorian}

re: #91 opnion

Exactly right. President of Harvard Law Review, but sumitted nothing?

If he had submitted anything, anything at all, it would give us a glimpse into the way his highness thinks. He must remain the riddle, wrapped in an enigma, shrouded in fog, so at to remain distant from his subjects.

Video tribute to Sgt. Ryan P Baumann
(tearful ending from his Fiance)

I never thought that this is where I'd settle down,
I thought I'd die an old man back in my hometown,
They gave me this plot of land, me and some other men,
for a job well done.

There's a big white house sits on a hill just up the road,
The man inside he cried the day they brought me home,
They folded up a flag, and told my mom and dad, 'We're proud of your son'.

And I'm proud to be on this peaceful piece of property,
I'm on sacred ground and I'm in the best of company,
I'm thankful for those thankful for the things I've done,
I can rest in peace, I'm one of the chosen ones,
I made it to Arlington.

I remember daddy brought me here when I was eight,
We searched all day to find out where my granddad lay,
And when we finally found that cross,
He said, 'Son this is what it cost, to keep us free'.
Now here I am a thousand stones away from him,
He recognized me on the first day I came in,
And it gave me a chill, when he clicked his heels, and saluted me.

And I'm proud to be on this peaceful piece of property,
I'm on sacred ground and I'm in the best of company,
And I'm thankful for those thankful for the things I've done,
I can rest in peace, I'm one of the chosen ones,
I made it to Arlington.

And every time I hear, twenty-one guns,
I know they brought another hero home, to us.

We're thankful for those thankful for the things we've done,
We can rest in peace, 'cause we were the chosen ones,
We made it to Arlington, yea, dust to dust
Don't cry for us, we made it to Arlington.

re: #98 doriangrey
Morning dorian - how are ya today?

re: #74 nyc redneck

obama doesn't give a shit abt. that soldier or his mother.
it was a "hey, look at me" moment for obama.
very childish, very inappropriate.
he is NOT a grown up.
he is NOT fit to lead.

But Barry now says that he considerd enlisting in the military.
What stopped him though is that we were not at war. Riiiight.

re: #90 galloping granny

Did the mother say when she gave him the bracelet?

Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.

Big surprise, there.

re: #93 x-wing

Thanks! Whew. That's a relief. I'm text-message challenged.

re: #3 jimboster

Well, the mother hasn't said anything, and she was the one who gave it to Obama.

Fuck you, shit bag.

Hi, I just got here. Did Mandy already take care of this?

I'm surprised. I'm sure crazy Cindi would have given him permission to wear her son's bracelet. Why didn't he do that instead?

re: #107 realwest

Morning dorian - how are ya today?

Doing pretty good real, just now starting to feel anxious about Tuesday's appointment with the Oral surgeon... I hope you are feeling well today...

re: #103 jemima

#83 Kansas

No, I don't watch the Luntz groups. There is a limit to how much stupidity I can take.
P.S. I lived in Clearwater KS for 11 months.

Bet that was long 11 months.

He wouldn't drop in on the troops at LRMC, either, because there was nothing in it for him. How can he rationally hope to be CIC?

re: #79 x-wing

I just can't believe the mother gave it to him in the first place.

who knows what motivates people in their grief.
but now, w/ clarity, she regrets it.
maybe she sees what an opportunistic, bottom feeder obama really is.

re: #110 Dianna
Hey {Dianna} how are you this morning?

re: #102 galloping granny

Think of his age. He is a product of Affirmative Action. As is his wife, who has clearly stated as much.

Michelle has always benefited from Affirmative Action Largese.
She whines that she wrote a poor SAT, but off to the Ivy League anyway & still she is bitter.

re: #112 Walter L. Newton

Fuck you, shit bag.

Hi, I just got here. Did Mandy already take care of this?

I think Mandy was reluctant to get feces all over her clue-by-four.... lol...lol...707...

re: #105 Perplexed

If he had submitted anything, anything at all, it would give us a glimpse into the way his highness thinks. He must remain the riddle, wrapped in an enigma, shrouded in fog, so at to remain distant from his subjects.

If you are looking for the way he thinks there are copies of his finals online. Summarizing he thinks in terms of discrimination and...............discrimination.

This is just unreal.

I have no words.

RNC, where the hell are you?

re: #76 kansas

Didn't he graduate Summa Cum Dipshit from Harvard? Wow. He'll be our first affirmative action Prezzydent.

There was a huge flap at Harvard a few years back over across the board As. The faculty seemed to figure that if you were smart enough to get into Harvard you deserved an A in everything. It was pretty hard to graduate anything other than Summa for quite some while. Eventually someone made an issue of grades not actually meaning anything at Harvard.

re: #116 Knitwit

He wouldn't drop in on the troops at LRMC, either, because there was nothing in it for him. How can he rationally hope to be CIC?

No press to take pictures.

"should" challenge the truth squads.

re: #114 doriangrey
I'm doing ok - really damn tired though. And don't worry about your appointment - this time, two weeks from now it'll be just another memory for you to forget! LOL!

re: #97 newsjunkie_ky

obamalama is a disgusting human being. I rank him right there beside cindy sheehag.

No, Cindy's at least clinically insane.

She's enjoying being clinically insane, but that's beside the point.

Obama, cares about one thing and one thing only, Obama.

Megalomania is probably a damn good term for it.

re: #126 realwest

I'm doing ok - really damn tired though. And don't worry about your appointment - this time, two weeks from now it'll be just another memory for you to forget! LOL!

Oh, well that makes me feel soooo much better.... lol...lol...

re: #3 jimboster

Well, the mother hasn't said anything, and she was the one who gave it to Obama.

Yes, I know, I know.

We appreciate your support.

re: #114 doriangrey

Doing pretty good real, just now starting to feel anxious about Tuesday's appointment with the Oral surgeon... I hope you are feeling well today...

Don't worry about it. And you can look forward to the happy pills. Hell, we all deserve an occasional chemical vacation, even the good guys.

re: #127 Dianna

No, Cindy's at least clinically insane.

She's enjoying being clinically insane, but that's beside the point.

ROTFLMAO...................... Good morning Dianna..... ;)

We just said goodbye to a fine actor and here we have someone who wants to play on the global stage who can't even deliver his lines! Obama isn't even fit to be a prop on the world stage.

Unfortunately, I lack the vocabulary to adequately describe, in polite society, my feelings toward Obama.

I CAN say,however, that I wore the uniform with PRIDE, and it'd be an honor beyond measure to wear it again with these young men and women.

re: #113 quickjustice

I'm surprised. I'm sure crazy Cindi would have given him permission to wear her son's bracelet. Why didn't he do that instead?

Because Cindy thinks Republicans and Democrats are essentially the same. Hadn't you heard?

re: #41 Spiny Norman

Sanity prevails? I'm shocked!

/no sarc

You can thank John McCain and the House Republicans.

John is responsible for getting the House Republicans to the table.
Acorn removal is the House Republicans idea

re: #122 formercorpsman
Good morning my friend! That's one HELL of a good question. I'd like to know where the hell the RNC is about Obama's Goon Truth Squads too - District attornies and Sheriffs' in certain Missouri counties saying they'll "go after" anyone who lies about Obama - and they said they were doing this at the behest of the the Obama campaign and they said it all on VideoTape for a local TV station in the Kansas City/St. Louis area!

re: #133 hermit

We just said goodbye to a fine actor and here we have someone who wants to play on the global stage who can't even deliver his lines! Obama isn't even fit to be a prop on the world stage.

I wouldn't cast him in any of my shows.

Mind Crime.
It's a lie! It's a lie!.

/the official Obama campaign response to every allegation.

re: #130 formercorpsman

?

Jimbo lied. His mother did NOT want him to wear it in public.

re: #97 newsjunkie_ky

obamalama is a disgusting human being. I rank him right there beside cindy sheehag.

Interesting you would name mama moonbat. I was thinking 0bama should wear Casey's bracelet- his mother wouldn't mind. Lord knows she's pissed on his memory enough.

re: #118 realwest

Much better, this morning, thank you!

I see you're up, so I gather you're doing well?

re: #65 opnion

Obama is a magician shyster. He was a less than mediocre high school student.
Yet he got an academic scholarship to college.

/fixed

re: #117 nyc redneck

who knows what motivates people in their grief.
but now, w/ clarity, she regrets it.
maybe she sees what an opportunistic, bottom feeder obama really is.

I'm thinking back to the debate where Obama was talking about the mother,and it just didn't sound right,what point he was trying to get across. I think I see now.
The mother didn't give that to him to bash this war, at least that's how it sounds to me.

#115

Spending 11 months in Clearwater--luckily I was working on a project so I didn't have to partake of it very much. The summer is interesting. 100 during the day and cools off to 96 at night. Came home from a shopping trip to Wichita one day and the news on TV was showing the front of the Murrah Bldg had been blown off. I thought it was footage of something that happened in Israel. (Not funny at all that that was my first thought.)

re: #122 formercorpsman

well, don't judge the rnc too harshly.....it was on wisconsin public radio. they have to becareful on this one anyway. the parents don't want their son to be a campaign issue. this has to be dealt with kid gloves. mccain can have nothing to do with the reply. it's really up to masses to get this information out.

re: #109 x-wing

Did the mother say when she gave him the bracelet?

This says he got the bracelet in February 2008. The radio show Wizbang references is from March 2008.

re: #65 opnion

Obama is a magician. He was a less than mediocre high school student.
Yet he got an academic scholarship to college.

This kind of thing pisses me off. They throw around the "Harvard" label like it says something about their academic capabilities. The guy is the "emperor's new candidate", a goddamn fantasy.

Good of Charles to post this, but I already saw it on the broadcast and cable networks, and the New York Times.

OH WAIT A MINUTE.

re: #134 irongrampa

Unfortunately, I lack the vocabulary to adequately describe, in polite society, my feelings toward Obama.

I CAN say,however, that I wore the uniform with PRIDE, and it'd be an honor beyond measure to wear it again with these young men and women.

God Bless you gramps....... You are an honor to all our fine service personal and a genuine patriot.

Ed Morrissey says that the mother is an Obama supporter, and that the report is from her divorced husband. The mother supposedly asked Obama to stop wearing it for fear it would hurt him politically.

Link here: [Link: hotair.com...]

I don't think McCain or the RNC should touch this. This family does not want their son exploited in the politics. RNC should respect that and leave it alone.

re: #7 Cap'n DOC

Did you read the article? Maybe you ought to start with that, jimbob...

Gee, I must have missed the mother's quote. Please point it out to me. The only thing I can find is where the ex-husband claims his wife told him in an email she asked Obama to stop wearing it. I mean, the father doesn't say he asked Obama to stop.He doesn't claim he heard his wife ask Obama to stop. In fact, he doesn't even claim his wife told him she asked Obama to stop. Yep, that's pretty solid evidence alright.

re: #116 Knitwit
He doesn't have to rationally hope - he's a Democrat and it's always an uphill fight for Republicans against Democrats anyway.
What I don't understand is how it is that the Democratic Party gave us Obama as THEIR choice for President!

re: #82 realwest

Good morning to you {nyc redneck}

AMEN. And I still can't figure out how the Dems stuck us with Obama in the first damn place!

hey {real}
the worst leftist commie candidate ever.

re: #132 doriangrey

Morning!

re: #152 ciaospirit

I don't think McCain or the RNC should touch this. This family does not want their son exploited in the politics. RNC should respect that and leave it alone.

Yeah, but we should spread the word. Those of us who don't live in Missouri.

re: #81 katemaclaren

Be back in awhile

re: #3 jimboster

Well, the mother hasn't said anything, and she was the one who gave it to Obama.

The mother HAS said something. The link is from NewsBusters, 7 hours ago.

re: #148 legalpad

This kind of thing pisses me off. They throw around the "Harvard" label like it says something about their academic capabilities.

Just like George Armstrong Custer went to West Point.

And graduated last in his class.

Q: What do you call the one who graduates last in his class in med school?

A: "Doctor".

OT (although it's about the military)

I will probably post this a number of times over the next few days so all the Lizards here can see this.

The star of our current show "Summertree," Jeff Haas, is both staring in an anti-war play, and 3 days after the show closes, ships off to boot camp with the army.

Here is a link to an article in todays Denver Post about Jeff. Life imitates art.

[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

re: #153 jimboster

You're now claiming the father of a dead servicemember is a LIAR?

Fuck you.

re: #137 realwest

Don't forget Gov. Blunt's reply, though: Not OK, Obama

re: #137 realwest

Good morning my friend! That's one HELL of a good question. I'd like to know where the hell the RNC is about Obama's Goon Truth Squads too - District attornies and Sheriffs' in certain Missouri counties saying they'll "go after" anyone who lies about Obama - and they said they were doing this at the behest of the the Obama campaign and they said it all on VideoTape for a local TV station in the Kansas City/St. Louis area!

And apparently doing the same in PA too Realwest.

re: #153 jimboster

Gee, I must have missed the mother's quote. Please point it out to me. The only thing I can find is where the ex-husband claims his wife told him in an email she asked Obama to stop wearing it. I mean, the father doesn't say he asked Obama to stop.He doesn't claim he heard his wife ask Obama to stop. In fact, he doesn't even claim his wife told him she asked Obama to stop. Yep, that's pretty solid evidence alright.

Um, do the father's wishes about the bracelet count at all? It's his son, too. Or is it like abortion, where fathers have few rights?

#3 = troll for Charles to splatter...

If anyone from the McCain camp is reading this thread...
Advertisement idea:

Video of the mother asking Obama to stop using the bracelet as a political statement coupled with Obamassieh stumbling over the name at the debate...
follow up with "he can't even remember the name of the fallen hero whom he exploits, has no respect for the dead etc to get their vote - a traditional chicago tactic" etc

Doubt they'll go for it - tried pitching a MLK/Obamassieh comparison that would end with "Obama is no MLK" after seeing the Black Republicans had put up signs all over Denver reminding Dems that MLK was a Republican etc...

sigh...
sigh...

re: #108 opnion

But Barry now says that he considerd enlisting in the military.
What stopped him though is that we were not at war. Riiiight.

what a fcking lie.
my grandmother at 75 yrs. old was more likely to enlist that obummer

re: #152 ciaospirit

I don't think McCain or the RNC should touch this. This family does not want their son exploited in the politics. RNC should respect that and leave it alone.

Agreed this should not be brought up by GOP

The democrats are simply conscientious objectors to being Americans.

re: #130 formercorpsman
"We appreciate your support."
HEY! Speak for yourself* - Cap'n DOC and I were all over this guy at the jump!

*I know you were kidding my friend!

re: #153 jimboster

Gee, I must have missed the mother's quote. Please point it out to me. The only thing I can find is where the ex-husband claims his wife told him in an email she asked Obama to stop wearing it. I mean, the father doesn't say he asked Obama to stop.He doesn't claim he heard his wife ask Obama to stop. In fact, he doesn't even claim his wife told him she asked Obama to stop. Yep, that's pretty solid evidence alright.

You're right, dude. You got us. The ex is lying his ass off.

re: #147 arethusa

Thanks.

Obama is like the Clintons on Evil Steroids...

re: #162 MandyManners

You're now claiming the father of a dead servicemember is a LIAR?

Fuck you.

Gawd.... You are Sharmuta are SOOOOO sexy when you are righteously indignant............

I was just reading about this on another site. He's such a jerk. I can't believe anyone would vote for him or stay home and not vote for McCain in order to keep this self-aggrandizing sleezeball out of the Oval Office.

They soldier's mom is supporting Obama, but doesn't want her son's sacrifice used in the campaign. It seems she made a mistake in giving the guy the bracelet. She won't ask for it back because she doesn't want it to become a campaign issue and now she's got to sit there and watch her candidate make it a campaign issue against her stated wishes. Because her candidate is a self-centered ass.

She should support McCain. He's a populist (which is probably what she's inclined to want if she's a dem) but he at least loves this country and honors her son's sacrifice. Obama doesn't give a crap unless he can use it to his advantage.

B-HO is a calculating, sinister fucktard. B-HO is all about B-HO, no one else matters. He disgusts me in every possible way a politician can.

He does not deserve to be POTUS. He does not even deserve to be an Illinois Senator. He's spent his entire time in DC running for POTUS.

B-HO is in it only for B-HO. Oh, and his lowlife bastard associates, too, since they own the guy.

I pray every day for a McCain victory.

Good morning to you.
Good morning to you.
Good morning dear Lizards.
Good morning to you.

re: #174 Mister Ghost

Obama is like the Clintons on Evil Steroids...

...without the talent.

re: #136 Typicalwhitey
Hey good morning {Typicalwhitey}! How are you this morning? Hope you got lots of sleep or at least rest last night!

re: #144 x-wing

I'm thinking back to the debate where Obama was talking about the mother,and it just didn't sound right,what point he was trying to get across. I think I see now.
The mother didn't give that to him to bash this war, at least that's how it sounds to me.

i agree.
maybe she was trying to get him to understand the concept of patriotism w/ her gesture.

re: #76 kansas

He'll be our first affirmative action Prezzydent.

I agree. The world has changed.

John McCain has always been willing to stand for principal (some of which I disagree with) as a politician and has a personal story as noble as Nelson Mandela. Comparing his record to BHO, the campaign should not even be close.

re: #152 ciaospirit

A fine sentiment, and I agree.

The problem being that it's too late, now.

re: #54 katemaclaren

I'm beginning to warm towards Clinton (God, forgive me), but he continues to say things--like giving McCain credit for trying to introduce legislation to regulate Fannie and Freddie--and being defeated by the dems. He also defended McCain's decision to return to Washington last week. I know this is cynical of me, and I know it has something to do with Hillary next election cycle, but it must be very galling to the Dems to hear Clinton saying these things.

Maybe all that time playing golf and hanging with George HW (they are apparently friends since Bill's retirement) might have started to sink in.

re: #153 jimboster

Gee, I must have missed the mother's quote. Please point it out to me. The only thing I can find is where the ex-husband claims his wife told him in an email she asked Obama to stop wearing it. I mean, the father doesn't say he asked Obama to stop.He doesn't claim he heard his wife ask Obama to stop. In fact, he doesn't even claim his wife told him she asked Obama to stop. Yep, that's pretty solid evidence alright.

Please do remember that the EX husband is not an EX father and that he has as many legal and moral rights to his son's memory as his wife does. That the FATHER asked that the bracelet not be worn should be more than sufficient, even if the mother gave Obama the bracelet. There are plenty of dead soldiers. Surely Obama can find just one whose parents agree.

re: #66 loppyd

Clinton also said the first coversation he ever had with Barry was the one in Harlem a few weeks ago.....in his response to whether he thought Barry was a great man.

Blydi 'eck - now thats very revealing!
Shows the arrogance of B0 and his handlers in the DNC - I hope the Clinton-Dems are taking the hints Bill C. has been dropping recently ...

A politician using a dead soldier for political gain. A new low for democrats.

re: #153 jimboster

Has it occurred to you that an ex-husband and ex-wife can get along and have similar feelings concerning their children? Is it possible that this man doesn't want the mother of his child to go through any more pain because of this stunt being pulled by 0bama?

Or are you just going to continue insulting the man by calling him a liar?

re: #180 realwest

Hey good morning {Typicalwhitey}! How are you this morning? Hope you got lots of sleep or at least rest last night!

Hey Real.
My fax to the RNC wouldn't go out last night so I am sending it today!
They probably don't know about what is going on here yet.....but they will LOL

re: #142 Dianna
Well both "up" and "doing well" are sorta subjective!
I am up, though still really tired and I'm not feeling poorly this morning, so I guess I'm doing well! LOL!
I'm very glad that you're doing much better today.

re: #157 arethusa

Yeah, but we should spread the word. Those of us who don't live in Missouri.

But the only word we have is the ex husband.

re: #159 jwb7605

The mother HAS said something. The link is from NewsBusters, 7 hours ago.

The mother is not quoted in that article.

Hi all ,this doesn't surprise me one bit. Obama cares about one thing only, and that is to win. We've seen it in every thing he has run for. Destroy your opponent at any cost. Just look at all his other "victories."As an aside, Gallup just came out with their poll regarding the debate.....Surprise, surprise Obama "won" hands down. Now I will say McCain could have been a little tougher on Obama, but to believe Obama won?

re: #186 yma o hyd

Blydi 'eck - now thats very revealing!
Shows the arrogance of B0 and his handlers in the DNC - I hope the Clinton-Dems are taking the hints Bill C. has been dropping recently ...

Hints? Bill could only be more obvious by coming right out and endorsing John McCain.

re: #182 Deafdog

I agree. The world has changed.

John McCain has always been willing to stand for principal (some of which I disagree with) as a politician and has a personal story as noble as more noble than Nelson Mandela. Comparing his record to BHO, the campaign should not even be close.

Had to fix that for you, because McCain's story is a hell of a lot more noble than that Dirty F**kin' Communist Mandela's ever will be!

galloping granny (#90),

Okay, he is not wearing the bracelet on any of the pics on the first 8 or so pages of pics that come up on google images. He is not wearing the bracelet on February 10, 2008 in USATODAY. [Link: www.usatoday.com...]

And he is not wearing it at his convention - very clearly. Picture 5 out of 49, he is hugging Joe Biden and his left hand is clearly visible.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

He does have a bracelet on in picture number 8 of that length - taken August 20. And the rest of the pictures in that series which show his hand seem to have the bracelet.

No surprise. Like most things The Big O does and says they're opportunistic window-dressing whose only intent is on curring approval.

re: #54 katemaclaren

re: #35 loppyd

I just watch Meet the Press - Bill Clinton would not say that Obama was a great man as he has said about McCain.

I'm beginning to warm towards Clinton (God, forgive me), but he continues to say things--like giving McCain credit for trying to introduce legislation to regulate Fannie and Freddie--and being defeated by the dems. He also defended McCain's decision to return to Washington last week. I know this is cynical of me, and I know it has something to do with Hillary next election cycle, but it must be very galling to the Dems to hear Clinton saying these things.

G-d forgive me, too, but I'm also seeing something positive in Bill Clinton for going against the Democrats' Slanderous/Libelous party line by praising John McCain and Sarah Palin while also saying as little as possible about Obama.

Bill Clinton had the liberal hosts on "The View" scrunched up and silent in their seats. It's good to see them like that. I think he has surprised all of them (even the ones who knew he was doing this on other liberal programs before he got to theirs.) They just couldn't believe he'd do it again and again. I think they each kept thinking he'd do a turn around on their programs.

re: #188 Sharmuta

Has it occurred to you that an ex-husband and ex-wife can get along and have similar feelings concerning their children? Is it possible that this man doesn't want the mother of his child to go through any more pain because of this stunt being pulled by 0bama?

Or are you just going to continue insulting the man by calling him a liar?

The latter I think.

re: #153 jimboster

Gee, I must have missed the mother's quote. Please point it out to me. The only thing I can find is where the ex-husband claims his wife told him in an email she asked Obama to stop wearing it. I mean, the father doesn't say he asked Obama to stop.He doesn't claim he heard his wife ask Obama to stop. In fact, he doesn't even claim his wife told him she asked Obama to stop. Yep, that's pretty solid evidence alright.

Oh please. It is clear to everyone here that should video surface of the mother actually meeting with and asking Obama to NOT wear the bracelet, you and other leftists will continue to defend Obama.

Blind admiration.

Obama's just like all the other moonbats. They say they "support the troops" with fingers crossed behind their backs. At the earliest opportunity, though, they disown them.

re: #181 nyc redneck

i agree.
maybe she was trying to get him to understand the concept of patriotism w/ her gesture.

That's along the line of what I was thinking. He stumbled over the words, trying to make it sound anti-war but just couldn't bring himself to do it.

The Jopek Family will now go under the bus.

Nothing will stop the Alinsky Machine in its drive for power. The masses exist to be appropriated, and if they object, they will be expropriated. It says so right here in the little red book which I found in the dumpster.

/with apologies to Iowahawk

re: #137 realwest

I have many things that get under my skin. As I get older, I know how to let things slide.

I also volunteer a decent amount of my time, because having 3 kids, and responsibilities, funds can get tight.

One of the people I volunteer for, lost a son in Anbar in 2006. I provide music each year for a gathering in his memory. Everyday folk, in the prototypical small town every bit the fashion of Pennsylvania come together, honoring his memory, and the family out of RESPECT.

When reading this, what I thought of, is this warrior's parents.

It would be one thing for for Obama to bring his memory up out of happenstance. If it was requested he discontinue referencing at the behest of the parents?

I have no words. I am too mad right now.

Where are the 527's when you need them? Litigated into silence?

re: #140 MandyManners

Read it again.

It will speak for itself.

My statement, that is.

re: #191 ciaospirit

The mother is not quoted in that article.

And the father's wishes don't matter?

re: #163 Dianna
Oh I haven't forgotten Dianna - please go to #14 on the prior thread - I still don't know why Typicalwhitey's letters and all haven't at least brought about the suspension of those DA's and Sheriff's though.

I think the most damaging part of this is just his quote and the way he said it, "I have a bracelet, too." I've been walking around the house saying it with inflection like an 8th grade girl, "I have a bracelet, tooooo."
I think that showed him to be petulant and juvenile. This from the wannabe leader of the free world?

re: #146 phoenixgirl

Yes, you are right.

I don't think anyone is trying to call the ex a liar. At least I'm not. But we can't say that the mother "said" anything. We can't support that. I wouldn't want my ex to speak for me no matter if we're friends or not.

re: #199 gman

Obama's just like all the other moonbats. They say they "support the troops" with fingers crossed behind their backs. At the earliest opportunity, though, they disown them.

It would almost be funny to see the local police or fire department support the liberal loonies they way the liberal loonies support our troops. It just might cause them to reconsider the meaning of the term "support"....

re: #164 galloping granny
Yup, but we really need a PA LGFer to step forward and do all the work Typicalwhitey has done in Missouri to get some push on that one.

I noticed some other websites covering this story are "timing out". It appears the Obama campaign has picked up on it.

LGF is spot on!

As a Gold Star Mother I would be hurt beyond words if I had given the bracelet to Obama to wear in memory of my son and Obama forgot his name.

PS- It's Gold Star Mother's Day

For Immediate Release September 24, 2008

GOLD STAR MOTHER'S DAY, 2008

- - - - - - -

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

Throughout our history, the men and women of the Armed Forces have put our Nation's security before their own, doing their duty in the face of grave danger. On Gold Star Mother's Day, we pay solemn tribute to the mothers of the patriots lost serving this great Nation.

Gold Star Mothers inspire our Nation with their deep devotion to family and country. These extraordinary women serve their communities, dedicate their time to helping members of our Armed Forces and veterans, and bring comfort and hope to families whose loved ones laid down their lives in the defense of our liberty. Nothing can compensate for their sacrifice and loss, yet Gold Star Mothers demonstrate tremendous courage and resolve while working to preserve the memory and legacy of all our fallen heroes.

On this day, we honor our country's Gold Star Mothers and remember their sons' and daughters' noble service and great sacrifice. We offer them our deepest gratitude and our most profound respect, and we ask for God's blessings to be upon them and their families.

The Congress, by Senate Joint Resolution 115 of June 23, 1936 (49 Stat. 1895 as amended), has designated the last Sunday in September as "Gold Star Mother's Day" and has authorized and requested the President to issue a proclamation in its observance.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim Sunday, September 28, 2008, as Gold Star Mother's Day. I call upon all Government officials to display the flag of the United States over Government buildings on this special day. I also encourage the American people to display the flag and hold appropriate ceremonies as a public expression of our Nation's sympathy and respect for our Gold Star Mothers.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-fourth day of September, in the year of our Lord two thousand eight, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-third.

GEORGE W. BUSH

re: #166 anotherindyfilmguy

I don't think McCain would approve this ad. The mother's wishes were for her son's sacrifice not to become a campaign issue. McCain will honor the mother's wishes - unlike 0bama.

re: #191 ciaospirit

The mother is not quoted in that article.

Fine.
That's the same argument as "not actually having been on Kerry's boat" (As I recall, the next boat was several yards away).
I did assume that because the father is being the spokeperson for the family, the two do continue to sleep in the same bed.

re: #172 rightwinger3
Hey - We don't know that - we haven't seen any evidence that the EX -MRS. want's Obama to wear the bracelet, either!

Pointing out bracelets of fallen soldiers you are wearing is a cheap political gimmick, and exploitation of tragedy, whether John Mccain or Barrack Obama does it. Now, we don't know the full story here, since the mother, who is the one who gave Obama the bracelet, is not giving interviews. We only know what her ex-husband has claimed she said. Her ex-husband is in favor of Mccain's positions on the Iraq war, and is likely personally against Obama wearing the bracelet for that reason. His account of what the mother, the one who gave Obama the bracelet, has said or not said is likely colored by all of this.

re: #206 arethusa

And the father's wishes don't matter?

Didn't say his wishes don't matter. All I'm saying is don't state that the mother said something when we don't have direct quotes from her (facts) to support it.

re: #165 arethusa

Just like the family did not want their son's memory to get lost in hyperbole, please avoid the outside issues with this.

I am pro-life. I just don't think this is a good idea.

re: #195 Geepers
When clicking on the link for the convention pix of obambi I see McCain's convention.

re: #215 daledog

I can see that, but I can see something like "paid for by Vetsfortruth.org" or something similar. Or not hvingthe request just his stumbling over the name with the ending "the family asked him not to exploit their son's sacrifice for political gain and he can't even remember the man's name..." or something...

re: #211 doriangrey

It would almost be funny to see the local police or fire department support the liberal loonies they way the liberal loonies support our troops. It just might cause them to reconsider the meaning of the term "support"....

The only thing these moonbats rabidly support is ration cards and oversized posters and statues of their heroes.

re: #154 realwest
You're right.

I have noticed from listening to the radio that the pro-Obama people lack an ability to reason that's truly appalling (thank you, government schools).
They depend entirely on non sequiturs.

Gold Star Mothers......my thoughts and prayers are channeling your way.

re: #214 mom2esf

As a Gold Star Mother I would be hurt beyond words if I had given the bracelet to Obama to wear in memory of my son and Obama forgot his name.

PS- It's Gold Star Mother's Day

For Immediate Release September 24, 2008

GOLD STAR MOTHER'S DAY, 2008

- - - - - - -

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

Throughout our history, the men and women of the Armed Forces have put our Nation's security before their own, doing their duty in the face of grave danger. On Gold Star Mother's Day, we pay solemn tribute to the mothers of the patriots lost serving this great Nation.

Gold Star Mothers inspire our Nation with their deep devotion to family and country. These extraordinary women serve their communities, dedicate their time to helping members of our Armed Forces and veterans, and bring comfort and hope to families whose loved ones laid down their lives in the defense of our liberty. Nothing can compensate for their sacrifice and loss, yet Gold Star Mothers demonstrate tremendous courage and resolve while working to preserve the memory and legacy of all our fallen heroes.

On this day, we honor our country's Gold Star Mothers and remember their sons' and daughters' noble service and great sacrifice. We offer them our deepest gratitude and our most profound respect, and we ask for God's blessings to be upon them and their families.

The Congress, by Senate Joint Resolution 115 of June 23, 1936 (49 Stat. 1895 as amended), has designated the last Sunday in September as "Gold Star Mother's Day" and has authorized and requested the President to issue a proclamation in its observance.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim Sunday, September 28, 2008, as Gold Star Mother's Day. I call upon all Government officials to display the flag of the United States over Government buildings on this special day. I also encourage the American people to display the flag and hold appropriate ceremonies as a public expression of our Nation's sympathy and respect for our Gold Star Mothers.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-fourth day of September, in the year of our Lord two thousand eight, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-third.

GEORGE W. BUSH

Good morning, lizards.
68 degrees and cloudy along the Lake Michigan shoreline, with a quiet day on tap... *finally*

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

DSM-IV-TR specifies nine diagnostic criteria for NPD. For the clinician to make the diagnosis, an individual must fit five or more of the following descriptions:

He or she has a grandiose sense of self-importance (exaggerates accomplishments and demands to be considered superior without real evidence of achievement).

He or she lives in a dream world of exceptional success, power, beauty, genius, or "perfect" love.

He or she thinks of him- or herself as "special" or privileged, and that he or she can only be understood by other special or high-status people.

He or she demands excessive amounts of praise or admiration from others.

He or she feels entitled to automatic deference, compliance, or favorable treatment from others.

He or she is exploitative towards others and takes advantage of them.

He or she lacks empathy and does not recognize or identify with others' feelings.

He or she is frequently envious of others or thinks that they are envious of him or her.

He or she "has an attitude" or frequently acts in haughty or arrogant ways.

Arrogant Narcissist Grandiosity is usually the most outstanding and discriminating feature of individuals with NPD.

So, who does this description remind you of?
Discuss.

re: #221 ploome hineni

look at his body language

He's got his arms crossed over his chest and his legs are crossed.

Closed body language, eh?

Interesting.

re: #220 formercorpsman

Just like the family did not want their son's memory to get lost in hyperbole, please avoid the outside issues with this.

I am pro-life. I just don't think this is a good idea.

Yes, you're right. My apologies.

re: #228 Adina in Judea

He's got his arms crossed over his chest and his legs are crossed.

Closed body language, eh?

Interesting.

Some body-language analyst - can't find it now - said that a freeze frame of Clinton's speech at the Democratic convention showed a twisted expression of distaste every time he said "Obama."

re: #230 arethusa

Some body-language analyst - can't find it now - said that a freeze frame of Clinton's speech at the Democratic convention showed a twisted expression of distaste every time he said "Obama."

I am convinced Clinton and Hillary! will be voting McCain this year.
Absolutely convinced.
They are doing the minimum necessary for the Dems.
And I think both of them really, really do not like Obama.

re: #230 arethusa

Some body-language analyst - can't find it now - said that a freeze frame of Clinton's speech at the Democratic convention showed a twisted expression of distaste every time he said "Obama."

This may be why Clinton says this name as little as possible now (as noticed by Chris Rock on the Letterman Show.) His distaste for Obama is too difficult to hide.

Typical MSM/moonbat thinking here:

Moberg: Maybe there's a difference between wearing it and making a point to bring it up in your speeches?

I don't know...I would think that if you are wearing it, you are making a point

re: #162 MandyManners

You're now claiming the father of a dead servicemember is a LIAR?

Fuck you.

Gee, you must have missed a few debating team practices. Using your reasoning, everything Cindy Sheehan says is the gospel.

re: #234 jimboster

Gee, you must have missed a few debating team practices. Using your reasoning, everything Cindy Sheehan says is the gospel.

No she didnt, but Mandy did major in the roasting of Gamey troll buttocks....

re: #235 doriangrey

No she didnt, but Mandy did major in the roasting of Gamey troll buttocks....

I have no interest in her dinner menu.

NPD often is accompanied by social autism. Biden shows this to an advanced degree as does the magic negro. Barry could very easily be provoked into a raging fit during a debate. One can hope Mr. McCain will push his buttons. By the way did anyone focus on McCain's reactions when he strongly berated the country for torturing prisoners? His emotions almost overcame him on the word torture. He of all people, should know.

I had started the election cycle with a none of the above, mentality. I can no longer defend this position. Four years under Obama will pack the supreme court to the point the leftists can finish their dirty work in less than a generation.

HKC

His father needs to get in front of a Camera and take Comrade Hussein down a notch.

Barry could very easily be provoked into a raging fit during a debate. One can hope Mr. McCain will push his buttons.

From your lips, to Gods' ear!

When is the last debate scheduled? It may be that Johnny Mac is waiting for that to drop the hammer on the magic negro, getting the most bounce closest to the election.

re: #214 mom2esf

Would everyone please go up and give this post a plus ?

Let it be known.

And may God bless you and your whole family, mom2esf.

re: #236 jimboster

I have no interest in her dinner menu.

Since you are obviously a TROLL you should be....

re: #217 realwest

Hey - We don't know that - we haven't seen any evidence that the EX -MRS. want's Obama to wear the bracelet, either!

Sarc Tag missing realwest!

re: #234 jimboster

Gee, you must have missed a few debating team practices. Using your reasoning, everything Cindy Sheehan says is the gospel.

Your earlier exposition of nit-picking indicates you didn't get past the junior high debate team.

You're way out of your depth here.

re: #234 jimboster

She is not the only one who responded to you.

Man up.

re: #236 jimboster

I have no interest in her dinner menu.

Fools never are.

Does anybody ever believe liberals and "anti-war" freaks (often pro-terrorists) when they say "I support the troops!"?

Obama is a dirtbag for not respecting the wishes of the soldier's family. The dork couldn't even remember the soldier's name! Obama might as well visit the soldier's grave and piss on it. Obama, the conniving community worker is more worried about terrorist rights than dead American soldiers.

I can actually believe that Obama did honor the request of the mother of Sargent Jopek. What I believe is that someone gave him another bracelet to wear and he didn't even bother to learn the name because it was only for affect.

The name of Jopek popped into his mind and that was the one he blurted out.

Either way, he is disingenuous and ignorant.

Some gave all.

{Mom2esf}

Typical. His whole campaign has been only about himself. I did this or I did that is just about all you hear anymore. He's even taking credit for the bailout and saying McCain deserves none. Man, this guy is a serious tool!

re: #241 mama winger

Would everyone please go up and give this post a plus ?

Let it be known.

And may God bless you and your whole family, mom2esf.

Done mama.....

When you are the most intelligent, the best looking, the best speaker and above everyone else in this world you can do anything you like. Just ask the supreme one (his thinking) Obama.
What a complete a** hole

re: #54 katemaclaren

I'm beginning to warm towards Clinton (God, forgive me), but he continues to say things--like giving McCain credit for trying to introduce legislation to regulate Fannie and Freddie--and being defeated by the dems. He also defended McCain's decision to return to Washington last week. I know this is cynical of me, and I know it has something to do with Hillary next election cycle, but it must be very galling to the Dems to hear Clinton saying these things.

To a lot of Dems I know, Clinton was a backstabber well before any of this went down. He campaigned as an ultra-lib, and he presided over a relatively moderate, center-left administration despite his soaring rhetoric and campaign promises. In some Dem circles he's demonized for it.

Politically, I disagree with Bill Clinton on just about everything, and Hillary even more so. However I think Bill Clinton, in crunch time was smart, and pragmatic in a lot of situations where his ideology could have triumphed over said pragmatism. He knew that his plans, after being fisked by his advisers, were going to be bad for the country, and so were scrapped.

His calls to help the middle class, the poor and dowtrodden were genuine, and so he backed off of the Socialism-lite that he campaigned on because he was told the damage it would cause to the very people he wanted to help.

I think there is a stark difference between people like Clinton and ones like Pelosi, and for that matter Obama despite their surface similarities. The latter will (and have) let their Marxist ideology triumph in decisions regardless of the damage it will cause, and in some cases because of the damage it would cause.

I think that his jabs at Obama are more than just simple revenge, or political maneuvering for Hillary. If you recall Clinton himself started having a lot of trouble with his own party in Congress towards the end of his presidency, among them Nancy Pelosi who won a lot of points off of Bill Clinton, which probably contributed to her being elected Minority Whip, and then Speaker. I think Clinton recognizes Pelosi, Obama et al for the political and economic saboteurs that they are.

I guess

absolute moral authority

does not apply here as elderly ingenue Maureen Dowd would suggest with left-wing hag Mother Sheenan.

re: #227 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
68 degrees and cloudy along the Lake Michigan shoreline, with a quiet day on tap... *finally*

So, who does this description remind you of?
Discuss.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

DSM-IV-TR specifies nine diagnostic criteria for NPD. For the clinician to make the diagnosis, an individual must fit five or more of the following descriptions:

He or she has a grandiose sense of self-importance (exaggerates accomplishments and demands to be considered superior without real evidence of achievement).

He or she lives in a dream world of exceptional success, power, beauty, genius, or "perfect" love.

He or she thinks of him- or herself as "special" or privileged, and that he or she can only be understood by other special or high-status people.

He or she demands excessive amounts of praise or admiration from others.

He or she feels entitled to automatic deference, compliance, or favorable treatment from others.

He or she is exploitative towards others and takes advantage of them.

He or she lacks empathy and does not recognize or identify with others' feelings.

He or she is frequently envious of others or thinks that they are envious of him or her.

He or she "has an attitude" or frequently acts in haughty or arrogant ways.

Arrogant Narcissist Grandiosity is usually the most outstanding and discriminating feature of individuals with NPD.

Remind? All you need is a photo of OBAMA the subject; you can post it to Wikipedia at that point.

/ Repeated for truth. I'm lovin' this election season.

As for Clinton (Bill): "The enemy of my enemy is my friend...."

re: #37 Cap'n DOC

I'm watching on Fox at 12:43pm (mountain time) and he IS wearing the bracelet, or at least A bracelet.

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Well,
Somebody has finally tried to get to the bottom of the story. We'll see how it plays out. Hopefully, both the father and mother will come forward and Obama will be exposed.

re: #257 jimboster

Yeah, but notice at the bottom who he didn't include on the list of people to contact.

The father. As if his opinion on the matter doesn't matter here?

Also, I feel real sorry for the sgt's parents now because you know Team Barry is gonna be breathing down their necks now to pressure them into giving their 'approval.' Insubordination like this simply cannot stand if BO is to become el Presidente por Todos los Dias...

You had to know this was coming.

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

Soldier's mother ``ecstatic'' about Obama's bracelet

By DINESH RAMDE | Associated Press Writer
4:28 PM CDT, September 28, 2008

MILWAUKEE - The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.

Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.

She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.

She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.

re: #35 loppyd

I just watch Meet the Press - Bill Clinton would not say that Obama was a great man as he has said about McCain.

I saw Clinton on a morning program last week, and he was being questioned about McCain possibly not going to the debate last Friday if the financial things were not ironed out. When asked what he thought, Clinton stated that he would not read too much into it, as it has been McCain all along who has been pushing for the debates.

I may be wrong, but Clinton seems to really strain to say much good about Obama. I have yet to hear any real praise from him. My parents have said they noticed the same thing, although we could have missed something.

I just have a feeling that he would rather be backing McCain.