Sad, sad day for a Dallas Cowboy fans.

Huckabee's rocking.

/dripping sarcasm

Things are bad. Charles deleted himself.

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sad, sad day for a Dallas Cowboy fans.

On the previous thread, Pullus Iulius said (#138):

Sorry to go OT so early: A moonbattish friend apologized to me yesterday, saying that she and her family would have to pull against the Redskins today, and for the Cowboys. Apparently, whenever the Redskins have beaten the Cowboys in Dallas in a presidential election year, the Republicans have won the White House. Final score: Washington 26, Dallas 24 in an upset. Also, I was gratified to see no commercials for the 0bama thing during either the NASCAR or the NFL broadcasts. Discuss.

I hope this cheers you up!

I'm testing changes, so don't worry if you see some deleted comments. Don't fret.

Worse than I thought. I'm #1.

Oh please let the GOP truly name names. The Dems cannot be allowed to get away with palming themselves off as the heroes here.

I'm still unclear why there has to be a deal. GW Bush is on board, the democrats who have majorities in both houses of congress are on board, so just take the thing in and have a vote.

Especially in the house, there's no filibuster. If it's such a crisis, and it's such a great plan, vote it through on the party line and get POTUS to sign it.

Ninja loans, talk more about. Charles, stop pissing on people who support western civilization and Israel. I don't like Huckabee, why do I feel like I need to say that? I don't believe you will support Israel when things get tough.

You piss on those with no power or influence. Golly.

if there’s still no deal when the Asian markets open, things could get ... interesting

Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008

/it been a done deal for a few hours now

re: #11 funky chicken
Hey, you know you're not supposed to make sense about this misnomered bailout thing!
Now stop that!
LOL!

I'd probably have to self-delete if I watched Mike Huckabee too. No worries Charles :-).

re: #11 funky chicken

I'm still unclear why there has to be a deal. GW Bush is on board, the democrats who have majorities in both houses of congress are on board, so just take the thing in and have a vote.

Especially in the house, there's no filibuster. If it's such a crisis, and it's such a great plan, vote it through on the party line and get POTUS to sign it.

The dems want to be able to spread the blame around.

Is #12 a test?

re: #6 goddessoftheclassroom

I hope this cheers you up!

Yeah, I saw it. Silver lining and all.

re: #12 Krik_t_semaj

Ninja loans, talk more about. Charles, stop pissing on people who support western civilization and Israel. I don't like Huckabee, why do I feel like I need to say that? I don't believe you will support Israel when things get tough.

You piss on those with no power or influence. Golly.

I have a better idea - you can stop posting here.

I'm sure the dems protected their donations in this bill and did not outlaw political contributions to say, Barney and Barry

re: #12 Krik_t_semaj

GFY.

re: #13 Killian Bundy
Hey Killian - your link is to a PDF file that says Discussion Draft on it - how is it a done deal?
Sorry for my ignorance!

What is this B.S.?

Pirates have captured a ship carrying tanks and are being shadowed by the USN?
I hope there are orders being issued to the effect of, "board that ship with cutlasses."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #18 stuck in california

Zackly,

I will commit to memory before it gets tossed under the bus.

re: #18 stuck in california

Is #12 a test?

Apparently, he/she failed.

I wouldn't mind the bailout so much, if I thought that whatever laws/regulations that were on the books that caused the problem in the first place had been "turned off".

re: #12 Krik_t_semaj
Hey, ya know what, Fuck You.

re: #22 Sharmuta

GFY.

I take it that GFY doesn't mean "good for you"? LOL and that, infact it is pretty darn profane?

re: #20 Charles

I have a better idea - you can stop posting here.

But is that the same lizard who posts under the nic spelling rightwise and not backwards?

/greatly confused

re: #22 Sharmuta

GFY.

That's disrespectful. You could have at least taken the time to type it out in full

re: #12 Krik_t_semaj

Ninja loans, talk more about. Charles, stop pissing on people who support western civilization and Israel. I don't like Huckabee, why do I feel like I need to say that? I don't believe you will support Israel when things get tough.

You piss on those with no power or influence. Golly.

Backwards Kirk? Bye.

re: #7 Charles

I'm testing changes, so don't worry if you see some deleted comments. Don't fret.

Hmmm shall we also not mention comment #4? cough cough...

James_T_Kirk is as confused with his thinking as he is with his ability to spell.

Speaking Barry...

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

re: #30 SpartanWoman

I take it that GFY doesn't mean "good for you"? LOL and that, infact it is pretty darn profane?

Yeah, well. I thought I'd try to keep it clean.

The comments are misnumbered.

re: #32 cliffster

That's disrespectful. You could have at least taken the time to type it out in full

It was amazingly easy to figure out.

re: #10 SpartanWoman

Oh please let the GOP truly name names. The Dems cannot be allowed to get away with palming themselves off as the heroes here.

It's been bizarre since Thursday, when Barry apparently threw his tantrum in the big, important meeting, then flew away early Friday to play around in the debate hall. McCain flew right back to DC after the debate, Barry hit the campaign trail early Saturday, but was telling everybody he got the deal all wrapped up, and got all the pork thrown out.

And not a single republican argued or mocked his saying it.

And Paulson is still playing nice with his beloved Pelosi and Reid, like he has for at least a week.

Charles, I beg you don't delete the moonbat's post.

I like to see bat-shattery right out there where everyone can see it.

re: #33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Indeed, backwards and the backdoor beckons.

re: #27 centerofu
Yeah, you know if they'd eliminate the damned Community Reinvestment (or Redevelopment) Act and do the Mark to Market thing, I'd be out there cheering for it.
As it is, I hope we get something cause the Market WILL melt down if we don't get a "bailout bill" tonight.
Wonder if Obama would even show up to vote?!

re: #2 Charles

Huckabee's rocking.

/dripping sarcasm

His show is an hour? I needed some Fox action to comfort me as I mourned the Cowboys, and this is what I get?

re: #31 vxbush

I am sure it is not.

re: #14 taxfreekiller

Go, TFK!

re: #43 WhiteRasta

Charles, I beg you don't delete the moonbat's post.

I like to see bat-shattery right out there where everyone can see it.

Yes, lets have some fun, like how Orcas play with seals...

re: #38 Sharmuta
Ooops. Sorry Sharm!

re: #17 Spirit93

The dems want to be able to spread the blame around.

Yeah, but they have GW Bush, head of the GOP, POTUS who is gonna sign this thing. Really, who cares what Boehner and Blunt say, if this is so all-fired important? You know Pelosi has never given a damn about those two before.

Something still doesn't add up.

re: #32 cliffster

That's disrespectful. You could have at least taken the time to type it out in full

An asshole like that isn't worth any respect.

re: #49 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe I'm missing something, but that post doesn't seem to make sense.

Do I sense a verse on its way?

re: #24 WhiteRasta
The first time the US Navy was able to say 'Away boarders" since 1812 is when our guys from the sub hunter task group boarded U-505.

did acorn get shut out?

re: #38 Sharmuta

Yeah, well. I thought I'd try to keep it clean.

Sometimes it's worth dirtying it up a little ;) IMHO, of course

re: #55 chicagodudewhotrades

The first time the US Navy was able to say 'Away boarders" since 1812 is when our guys from the sub hunter task group boarded U-505.

Hey dude...

re: #53 Sharmuta

An asshole like that isn't worth any respect.

Yeah, he should go fuck himself!

re: #41 taxfreekiller
My friend if these REMF's DON'T put up NOW then I'm afraid we'll be chucking rocks at the enemy.
Seriously, why isn't this a done damn deal? Why do they have to keep putting add-on's to it?
What am I saying, it's the Dems here, it's sorta like asking why is the sky blue!

did acorn get shut out?

God, I hope so!

#56 nyc redneck 9/28/08 5:16:43 pm reply quote 0

did acorn get shut out?

Yep, that was the first thing a searched in the document was "Acorn"

Boo Hoo

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sad, sad day for a Dallas Cowboy fans.

Assuming you are not a Cowboys fan.. BITE ME!

If 3.14 illegal shipmates die on that Iranian ship per day, can we call that a pi rated vessel?

ok, Pelosi, Frank and Dodd attacked, lied and spun the story of the bailout 180 degrees in their Hill statement and said that they never wanted the original bill as it was, so it was the DEMS who had to ride to the rescue to protect the taxpayers from government excess.

I wonder how then the Dems originally added all kinds of costly bells and whistles to the proposal, tried to rush the bill through the House blindly, and then took stock of voters outrage before adding much needed cuts and oversight? oh, so it was John McCain who spoilt the party and blew up the happy congressional family who so blithely tried to get the legislation done to shove the bill down our throats!

So help me, if in the Republican presser the speakers say only that is is a good bi-partisan agreement in which both sides worked very hard to get a good outcome, and thx to our Democrat friends blahblahblah... I'm really, really going to crack...

(do you hear me out there, my weak-knee'd Republican, ahem, leaders - even the rabbit's gonna fold... please, please, somebody on our side please grow a pair...)

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

I do not understand why ACORN and similar protection rackets are supposed to get money under any bailout proposal. They have made no mortgages; they are not financial powers.

They're gonna get money to make sure that we can have the same problem in a few years.

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

I do not understand why ACORN and similar protection rackets are supposed to get money under any bailout proposal. They have made no mortgages; they are not financial powers.

They're a different kind of powers.

Hi folks - I need some input from all of you. My Dad lives down in Florida. He's old, kind of deaf without his hearing aids, had the house burn down a few weeks back and then last week he tripped trying to get to the phone in an unfamiliar house, ended up falling and fracturing his pelvis so now he is in a rehab center for the next two months. And he cannot hear on their phones at all.

So, we want to get him a cell phone so he can stay in contact with people. It need to have big buttons and not be too terribly complicated. Just looked at the Jitterbug - that's $147 and I'm not sure that we want to spend that much. Various family members can cover him with ATT, Verizon or Cingular plans. Do any of you have any ideas about a phone that is loud with big buttons? (The pictures on line just are not much help at all in judging size.)

re: #59 doriangrey

hi dorian

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Tell me you're kidding. I was in Cincy lo these past 48 hours and out of the bailout lupe.

re: #72 chicagodudewhotrades

hi dorian

Listen to my music yet?

re: #68 runrabbitrun

Newt has a pair, but Crikey.

re: #45 realwest

Well if CRA isn't turned off, then what's the point? It's like coming home to a flooded house and instead of going upstairs and turning off the water FIRST, you're buying new furniture!

I don't get it. I'll have to do more research - maybe the takeovers of Fannie and Freddie have basically strangled CRA?

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey
They turn out the votes for the Dems where the Dems need to count on getting those votes - from the graveyard.
Seriously I can't think of any group that has been investigated/indicted more for voter fraud and voter registration fraud than ACORN.
BTW, I'm reiterating my apology to you, even if you don't think its necessary, I do.

re: #64 MAV

#56 nyc redneck 9/28/08 5:16:43 pm reply quote 0

did acorn get shut out?

Yep, that was the first thing a searched in the document was "Acorn"

Boo Hoo

wonderful.
(now my bp is back to normal.)

The Eight Hundred Pound Gorilla in the room no one is mentioning is the Chinese. Wall Street sold a large pile of the toxic mortgages to them, and profited handsomely from the sales. (Do any lizards know how much exactly?) I'm hearing that they've basically told Wall Street "no more lending until you make good on the crap you sold us." That's why "foreign" (Chinese) banks are eligible to receive some of the government bailout money.

Without the Chinese lending to Wall Street, we have a huge problem. No one wants the American people to know how deeply Wall Street literally is in their debt.

re: #23 realwest

Hey Killian - your link is to a PDF file that says Discussion Draft on it - how is it a done deal?
Sorry for my ignorance!

Besides the fact that everyone's announced that it's a done deal?

/that's what's going to the House floor tomorrow, it's posted at multiple sources

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Do you have a link that shows ACORN's getting money. I thought the House Republicans stripped them of that.

re: #45 realwest

Yeah, you know if they'd eliminate the damned Community Reinvestment (or Redevelopment) Act and do the Mark to Market thing, I'd be out there cheering for it.
As it is, I hope we get something cause the Market WILL melt down if we don't get a "bailout bill" tonight.
Wonder if Obama would even show up to vote?!

Ah, you see Obama said he wasn't going back to vote "unless they needed him." And Pelosi said that those with a conflict of interest shouldn't vote. I figure that one of two things can happen here -

1. Obama stays away or does not cast a vote other than "present" - thereby confirming that he does indeed have a conflict of interest

2. He absolutely must go on record for or against and face the music - as in take the blame - if he wins and this doesn't work.

Looks like a win/win to me :)

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

The original bailout proposal had some 170 million, I think, earmarked for ACORN, La Raza and similar entities.

Mind-boggling, is it not?

Because the country is having a bad time so why should they suffer?
Tradition.

re: #76 buzzsawmonkey

Yet more evidence that our political class is more cynical than we believe ourselves to be, or want to be.

Do they want this to come to a fistfight?

re: #56 nyc redneck

I'm listening to a local atty on the radio (Kris Kobach who worked for Ashcroft) saying that the Acorn funding provision was slipped back in, only its in "brackets", whatever the hell that means. He's pissed. He says check provision 106. I'll research it and get back to ya.

re: #65 cliffster

Assuming you are not a Cowboys fan.. BITE ME!

Wearing my #12 Roger Staubach jersey. Wife has on a #24 Marion Barber jersey. Dog is wearing a #00 little doggy jersey. Son is probably wearing his Witten jersey.

Apologize. NOW!

/

We're a Cowboy household.

Anyone know who the cute redhead who introduced John Boehner in the news conference today is?

Just curious. :D

Rep. Cantor is gorgeous, btw. Imagine him as President, with Gov. Palin as veep. Wow.

I can't help noticing these things.

re: #80 quickjustice

The Eight Hundred Pound Gorilla in the room no one is mentioning is the Chinese. Wall Street sold a large pile of the toxic mortgages to them, and profited handsomely from the sales. (Do any lizards know how much exactly?) I'm hearing that they've basically told Wall Street "no more lending until you make good on the crap you sold us." That's why "foreign" (Chinese) banks are eligible to receive some of the government bailout money.

Without the Chinese lending to Wall Street, we have a huge problem. No one wants the American people to know how deeply Wall Street literally is in their debt.

There would have to oil money in there as well, am I right? The sworn enemy holding some aces?

[Link: financialservices.house.gov...]

Here are multiple links to the bill.

The text of the deal (PDF):

[Link: www2.nationalreview.com...]

re: #82 Sharmuta

Do you have a link that shows ACORN's getting money. I thought the House Republicans stripped them of that.

The House Republicans stripped out all of the pork, but don't be surprised when the Democrats sneak in all back in before Wednesday's vote... Simple diversionary tactic by the dems to allow the pork to be temporarily removed.

re: #85 Cattt

Ooh, he's cute. Adorable.

re: #71 galloping granny

Hi folks - I need some input from all of you. My Dad lives down in Florida. He's old, kind of deaf without his hearing aids, had the house burn down a few weeks back and then last week he tripped trying to get to the phone in an unfamiliar house, ended up falling and fracturing his pelvis so now he is in a rehab center for the next two months. And he cannot hear on their phones at all.

So, we want to get him a cell phone so he can stay in contact with people. It need to have big buttons and not be too terribly complicated. Just looked at the Jitterbug - that's $147 and I'm not sure that we want to spend that much. Various family members can cover him with ATT, Verizon or Cingular plans. Do any of you have any ideas about a phone that is loud with big buttons? (The pictures on line just are not much help at all in judging size.)

Wow. I wish I could make a suggestion, granny, but I'm rather clueless. I'm using a pay-as-you-use-it plan for right now to manage an ongoing issue, but I generally don't like cell phones--although the iPhone makes me drool, big time.

what a contrast, the house GOP group who fought to strip this bill of the nonsense, with the house DEM leadership who in my view should mostly be in jail.

re: #71 galloping granny
Hey {galloping granny} I'm so sorry to hear your news, but I'm afraid I don't know of any phones other than Jitterbug that are just damn telephones and have buttons big enough for someone to read!
But doesn't the hospital have those phones with the round turning wheels in the receiver so you can increase or decrease the volume? Hospitals here have 'em.
If not, maybe some (local to him) charity for the Deaf can give you a lead.

re: #76 buzzsawmonkey

The original bailout proposal had some 170 million, I think, earmarked for ACORN, La Raza and similar entities.

Mind-boggling, is it not?

Bear in mind that what has been published is specifically NOT the final draft on which they will vote. This is just a working draft open for comment. The ACORN provision could very well go right straight back into the final draft version. The game is not over until the vote is cast and the chickens are counted.

re: #7 Charles

I'm testing changes, so don't worry if you see some deleted comments. Don't fret.

Well i would like to say..[deleted] but then again I'm not so [deleted]
and if I had my way [deleted]..
dang it Charles.. I wanted to say that [deleted]
what the heck?
[deleted]
:)

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Besides the fact that everyone's announced that it's a done deal?

/that's what's going to the House floor tomorrow, it's posted at multiple sources

No, that is not the final draft version - there must be a final draft for a vote to be taken. This is NOT it.

re: #73 godfrey

Tell me you're kidding. I was in Cincy lo these past 48 hours and out of the bailout lupe.

That's why earmarks are evil, evil, bad, evil things. ACORN handjob was the first thing to go though - I reckon the dems thought it was worth a try.

the Euro has been taking a hit against the $ most of the afternoon, over there on that side of the pond, the big Belgium bank Fortis is in deep shit

Reid, Pelosi, and Schumer looked pleased with themselves.

/this can't be good.

The Dems didn't have ANY CUTE GUYS (or ladies) during THEIR news conference. So there.

Now we're not to mention comment #99?

re: #93 doriangrey

The House Republicans stripped out all of the pork, but don't be surprised when the Democrats sneak in all back in before Wednesday's vote... Simple diversionary tactic by the dems to allow the pork to be temporarily removed.

"We had a deal, until McCain came in here and screwed it all up..."

re: #68 runrabbitrun

like I said, I'm completely befuddled by the whole story line from the last week. First we have that bastard Reid screeching that McCain better come to town to sign on to the bailout. Then McCain shows up and brings the house GOP conservatives and their ideas with him, and suddenly Reid is screaming that McCain better get out of town.

Then we have Obama going out on Saturday morning and presenting the house GOP plan as if it was his own.

And Paulson happily giggling along with Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Schumer, Frank, et al...

And again, if the White House and the party in control of congress want this deal done, they can do it today.

re: #96 alien_mind

what a contrast, the house GOP group who fought to strip this bill of the nonsense, with the house DEM leadership who in my view should mostly be in jail.

Amen to that.

re: #92 Charles

The text of the deal (PDF):

[Link: www2.nationalreview.com...]

Hey! Can someone read this and let me know what it says. I got lost in the index.

re: #104 chicagodudewhotrades

the Euro has been taking a hit against the $ most of the afternoon, over there on that side of the pond, the big Belgium bank Fortis is in deep shit

Please forgive my ignorance, but does that mean the dollar is stronger or weaker?

When I spent my junior year of college at the University of London, the pound was $1.03. i was so rich...

re: #102 Charles

Another test...

re: #105 jetprop

Reid, Pelosi, and Schumer looked pleased with themselves.

/this can't be good.

They're getting away with aiding corruption and dropping the bill on the taxpayers' laps! What's not to love?

Why don't the House Republicans do what they do best, tell the Dems (and Bush) to go pound sand?

Well sorry y'all I'd love to stay and chat but it's time for dinner - I hope you all have a good evening and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #107 doriangrey

Now we're not to mention comment #99?

#99 was bullshit, it pissed me off. I'm glad it's gone.

Projectile vomit alert...Paris Hilton is searching for a new BFF...

re: #104 chicagodudewhotrades

the Euro has been taking a hit against the $ most of the afternoon, over there on that side of the pond, the big Belgium bank Fortis is in deep shit

Is it time to go in to full tin-hat conspiracy mode yet? a la Soros?

You know, #12 makes me believe that some folks sign up for LGF with the total idea of breaking the down-ding record.

#111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian 9/28/08 5:27:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #92 Charles

The text of the deal (PDF):

[Link: [Link: www2.nationalreview.com...]...]

Hey! Can someone read this and let me know what it says. I got lost in the index.

"Weep not for me, but weep for yourselves and your children"

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey! Can someone read this and let me know what it says. I got lost in the index.

Seriously - it's 8,000,000 pages long, and they are supposed to have it signed monday? They couldn't even sanity check it by then. They couldn't even INsanity check it by then.

By the way, I still hate you. Cowboys were caught off guard. We'll dismantle the skins later this year, in full view of the DC audience.

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Down dings! I forgot!

Hey! Wha' Happened?

re: #117 doriangrey

Projectile vomit alert...Paris Hilton is searching for a new BFF...

Paris: Vettes are hot!
there ya go Dorian...

re: #112 cliffster

#99 was bullshit, it pissed me off. I'm glad it's gone.

I can see it loud and clear. Maybe I should reload (the page.)

re: #90 A Kiwi Infidel

Citibank already has sold a big chunk of itself to at least one Arab sovereignty fund. Arabs definitely are recapitalizing American banks that hold bad paper with their oil money, but I don't know how much of the bad paper the Arabs hold themselves.

[Link: business.theage.com.au...]

The U.S. needs a billion dollars a day to stay afloat. It is in nobody's best interests to dump their U.S. dollars. However, with international institutions dropping like flies, it's getting hairy. e.g. Fortis, Royal Bank of Scotland, etc. There is a cascading effect because of the international character of billions of dollars of financial derivatives.

re: #80 quickjustice

The Eight Hundred Pound Gorilla in the room no one is mentioning is the Chinese. Wall Street sold a large pile of the toxic mortgages to them, and profited handsomely from the sales. (Do any lizards know how much exactly?) I'm hearing that they've basically told Wall Street "no more lending until you make good on the crap you sold us." That's why "foreign" (Chinese) banks are eligible to receive some of the government bailout money.

Without the Chinese lending to Wall Street, we have a huge problem. No one wants the American people to know how deeply Wall Street literally is in their debt.

that could explain a few things...Paulson and Josh Bolten from Goldman Sachs, Bush friendly with the PRC, lord knows the libdems have no problem with selling us out to the PRC, nor does Obama

hmmm

OK- pulling up the search function on the PDF of the text of the bill and it's 110 pages, the term "ACORN" did not come up.

re: #106 Cattt

The Dems didn't have ANY CUTE GUYS (or ladies) during THEIR news conference. So there.

You are correct. Ugly for the Dems goes to the core.

re: #117 doriangrey

Projectile vomit alert...Paris Hilton is searching for a new BFF...

I volunteer, as long as she'll let me educate her on values of conservatism.

re: #116 cliffster

#99 was bullshit, it pissed me off. I'm glad it's gone.

Cough cough... ROTFLMAO...

I am at a loss and outraged at these democratic lunatics.
First Obamo walking around saying I did, this and i did that re this bailout, what an idiot, he wouldnt not he difference between a derivative and a laxitive
Second, did i not see a press conference Friday night announcing that there had been an agreement and the democrats patting each other on the back. At the time a three page document. Oh and then the republicans in congress say, wait a minute, we are not on board yet.
Two days latter a 180? page documents, with lots of protection for taxpayers, and golden parachute protection, and a whole bunch of other stuff, presumable good?

HOW ON EARTH CAN THE DEMOCRATS SIT AT PRESS CONFERENCES AND SAY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE THEY BUILT IN ALL THIS PROTECTION. THEY WERE FINE WITH A THREE PAGE 700,000,000,000 BAILOUT. I AM NOT HAPPY WITH IT EITHER, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT IS NECESSARY. BUT DO THE DEMOCRATS THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS. I'M WAITING FOR AL GORE TO PIPE IN THAT HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN CLOSING THE DEAL.

WHAT A BUNK OF IDIOTS. CHARLES THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS IS NOW MY NOMINEE FOR THOSE WONDERFUL YEAR END AWARDS OF YOURS. FRICKEN HYPOCRITES

HELP ME WITH THIS ONE SOMEBODY AM I THE ONLY ONE THROWING THINGS AT MY TELEVISION SCREEN! (sorry for the capital, but I was yelling)

re: #12 Krik_t_semaj

James T Kirk spelled backwards?

re: #112 goddessoftheclassroom

Against the euro, the dollar is doing better today

Obama's Monopoly Economic Bailout Plan

1. Everyone gets the same amount of money when you start.
2. All properties and utilities are split evenly.
3. If some jerk gains more money than others he must pay twice the going rate as a penalty...capitalist pig!
4. If you don't have enough money at any point during life you can make the rich guy pay your tax and bills.
5. The bank NEVER runs out of money...with Obama's Monopoly Bailout Plan every bank gets their very own Federal Reserve printing press.
6. There are no winners in life. If things get out of hand at any point the government has the right to collect everyone's assets...go back to number 1 and start life over.

Obama's hoping his Economic Plan will go into effect in January 2009.

re: #125 HoosierHoops

Paris: Vettes are hot!
there ya go Dorian...

Gakkk... Goddess please save me from the very though of this abomination...

Good evening Lizards.

re: #135 stevieray

James T Kirk spelled backwards?

Yes. I wondered for a minute if it was the bad Kirk, from the parallel universe.

re: #133 doriangrey

Cough cough... ROTFLMAO...

LOL thanks for the edukashun

Huck doesn't like the word "crisis." He likes "solution." This guy ran for Pres.

Well, the Republicans made a few short statements and walked.

The Dems yakked and yakked and gave each other tons of praise.

The Republicans said McCain made a few phone calls.

The Dems tossed all sorts of credit to THE ONE for this bill.

/what to make of all this?

re: #122 cliffster

Cliff. Listen to me very carefully now. I want you to go up and read my comment number #88. Then come back and tell me you are sorry.

re: #139 jorline

Good evening Lizards.

Good beerning Jorline... ;)

re: #140 vxbush

Yes. I wondered for a minute if it was the bad Kirk, from the parallel universe.

Quick! Check for a goatee!

/a sure sign!

re: #141 cliffster

Yer speldd it rong, ya eejit. It's ejuMAcashun!

re: #135 stevieray

James T Kirk spelled backwards?

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie, its post 135 and you just figured that out?
(sigh)

I sent this to Charles, not realizing there was an open thread...

Watching the impending economical "catastrophe," I was struck with the memory of a more natural "catastrophe." A while back, Yellowstone National Park lost a huge portion of it's land and trees to fire...a crisis, if you will. I remember everyone claiming that the park would never be the same. The smart people (actual scientist...very similar to actual economist) knew that out of the destruction new life would arise and not only restore the park to it's former majesty, but provide the environment for even more growth and beauty. I can't help but think we could all learn a lesson from Mother Nature.

re: #130 Sharmuta

OK- pulling up the search function on the PDF of the text of the bill and it's 110 pages, the term "ACORN" did not come up.

ACORN was not referred to by its name in the original bill either.

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cliff. Listen to me very carefully now. I want you to go up and read my comment number #88. Then come back and tell me you are sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I think once this bailout gets signed and passed then the McCain campaign will get in high gear.

re: #86 MrPaulRevere

I looked at provision 106, no Acorn funding in there, but as a previous commenter noted, this is not a done deal, it could be slipped back in.

re: #118 rawmuse

No, it's time to start jumping up and down because of the real fragility of the financial system. Do you suppose Congress works on weekends for no reason. This is a crisis.
There will be plenty of time to assign blame. In the meantime, the bill needs to be passed so that the world markets don't freeze up and cease trading. Yes, it is that serious.

re: #150 rawmuse

Then what name should I be looking for?

re: #143 Florida Lady

Well, the Republicans made a few short statements and walked.

The Dems yakked and yakked and gave each other tons of praise.

The Republicans said McCain made a few phone calls.

The Dems tossed all sorts of credit to THE ONE for this bill.

/what to make of all this?

A full day tomorrow of fact checking all the Dem BS thats been pushed out today.

If Dems are talking, they're are lying.

re: #11 funky chicken

I'm still unclear why there has to be a deal. GW Bush is on board, the democrats who have majorities in both houses of congress are on board, so just take the thing in and have a vote.

Especially in the house, there's no filibuster. If it's such a crisis, and it's such a great plan, vote it through on the party line and get POTUS to sign it.

Does this need 2/3 vote?

re: #139 Florida Lady

Well, the Republicans made a few short statements and walked.

The Dems yakked and yakked and gave each other tons of praise.

The Republicans said McCain made a few phone calls.

The Dems tossed all sorts of credit to THE ONE for this bill.

/what to make of all this?

They're better panderers.

re: #97 realwest

Hey {galloping granny} I'm so sorry to hear your news, but I'm afraid I don't know of any phones other than Jitterbug that are just damn telephones and have buttons big enough for someone to read!
But doesn't the hospital have those phones with the round turning wheels in the receiver so you can increase or decrease the volume? Hospitals here have 'em.
If not, maybe some (local to him) charity for the Deaf can give you a lead.

Nope, apparently they don't. My sis took it into her head about midnight last night to fly down there and see things for herself (she is a nurse). Truthfully realwest, we are all kind of looking on the two months in the rehab hospital as a blessing in disguise.

That fire was kind of funny in an odd sort of way. About a week before Dad noticed that the fire extinguisher had suddenly lost all its charge. The wife pitched a fit and refused to let him go buy a new one. At about the same time she refused to pay the homeowner's insurance. He snuck behind her back and paid it anyway. The stove suddenly went up in flames big enough to destroy the house when he turned on a pan to fry some fish. In the time he was breading fish for two. And when he went to use the kitchen phone it did not work. Luckily he was smart enough to immediately leave the house and go to the neighbors to call. Meanwhile the new wife (I've never met her) called the fire department from the bedroom phone, then reached through flames trying to turn off the stove and reach the baking powder to put out the fire. She has second degree burns all over her arms, face and neck. That was less than a month ago.

Now maybe that is all just strange coincidence. But as you know, as a scientist I don't put too much faith in "coincidence." And meanwhile, he at least has a TV - they've been staying at her daughter's spare house, where she has refused to let him cook and refused to hook up the TV. He has been very depressed.

re: #134 fortescue

HELP ME WITH THIS ONE SOMEBODY AM I THE ONLY ONE THROWING THINGS AT MY TELEVISION SCREEN! (sorry for the capital, but I was yelling)

I'm right there with you. Seeing the dems lie and try to turn this into a republican problem is irritating as hell.

The bottom line is after all the pols had their time at the microphone:
is there a deal or not?

it is amazing how these guys (both sides) talk for minutes but not really say anything concrete

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wearing my #12 Roger Staubach jersey. Wife has on a #24 Marion Barber jersey. Dog is wearing a #00 little doggy jersey. Son is probably wearing his Witten jersey.

Apologize. NOW!

/

We're a Cowboy household.

My condolences to your household... ;p lol...lol...lol... (Die hard Charger fan here)

re: #151 cliffster

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Accepted. Cowboy good news? Eagles are being BRUTALIZED by the Bears right now.

re: #139 jorline

Good evening Lizards.

Good evening, jorline!

How are you this evening?

re: #104 chicagodudewhotrades

the Euro has been taking a hit against the $ most of the afternoon, over there on that side of the pond, the big Belgium bank Fortis is in deep shit

Hey dude - what do you think of this bailout mess?

re: #145 doriangrey

Good beerning Jorline... ;)

I need a beer or two after watching the Cowboy's...or a strong Irish Coffee.

How are you tonight, dorin?

re: #148 A Kiwi Infidel

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie, its post 135 and you just figured that out?
(sigh)

Heh. I'm slooowww...

Actually, I wandered off to watch ESPN for a minute, and y'all rudely kept posting without me!

Cantor seemed happy. They broke into Huckahu Akbar's program. LOL! Anyway, Blunt, Bohner, and Cantor spoke and seemed upbeat. President Bush is suppose to address US at 7:30 E.S.T. a.m. Monday should be eventful. The bill is posted all over the place, but Banderas just said it is somewhere on Fox's website.

Could someone who understand political bill speak look at this and translate it into English?

FYI, Bohner said McCain was extremely helpful and that the Dems would have "rolled right over me" had he not become involved in the process. So much for McCain not being needed! LOL!

re: #134 fortescue

NO. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE SCREAMING AT THE TV!

The redhead is Rep. Adam Putnam of Florida. Inquiring minds want to know.

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Accepted. Cowboy good news? Eagles are being BRUTALIZED by the Bears right now.

Stop, wait til the end of the game, then talk... Sheesh Cowboy fans really suck ;)

re: #156 Sharmuta

Then what name should I be looking for?

Looking for it now. It was on Hotair on Friday.

re: #166 Dianna

Good evening, jorline!

How are you this evening?

Good evening, Dianna. Did you get off the meds this weekend?

re: #143 Florida Lady

Well, the Republicans made a few short statements and walked.

The Dems yakked and yakked and gave each other tons of praise.

The Republicans said McCain made a few phone calls.

The Dems tossed all sorts of credit to THE ONE for this bill.

/what to make of all this?

McCain and the Republicans did the work.

re: #112 goddessoftheclassroom

Please forgive my ignorance, but does that mean the dollar is stronger or weaker?

When I spent my junior year of college at the University of London, the pound was $1.03. i was so rich...

When I first got to Germany one American dollar was worth 4 marks. We actually had enough money to live on!

re: #163 chicagodudewhotrades

it is amazing how these guys (both sides) talk for minutes but not really say anything concrete

The art of politics. Speaking at length without saying a thing.

re: #173 Celtic Templar

Heh.

re: #86 MrPaulRevere

I'm listening to a local atty on the radio (Kris Kobach who worked for Ashcroft) saying that the Acorn funding provision was slipped back in, only its in "brackets", whatever the hell that means. He's pissed. He says check provision 106. I'll research it and get back to ya.

please do

re: #143 Florida Lady

Well, the Republicans made a few short statements and walked.

The Dems yakked and yakked and gave each other tons of praise.

The Republicans said McCain made a few phone calls.

The Dems tossed all sorts of credit to THE ONE for this bill.

/what to make of all this?

What can you say? McCain has given the GOP the finger time and time again. He is The Maverick, after all. Childish of them not to rally behind him, and sucks for, well, the 300 million Americans who would suffer under Obama. But then, that's politics for ya

re: #168 jorline

I need a beer or two after watching the Cowboy's...or a strong Irish Coffee.

How are you tonight, dorin?

Watched the Chargers win this afternoon (ya I know, who would have thunk it?) drinking beer most of the (OK all afternoon) afternoon. Doing pretty damned good I would say... ;)

I will never understand women who control their husbands to such a degree that the husband has to ask permission to do simple things like watch TV. It's none of my business, galloping granny, but that sounds like a very strange relationship.

re: #160 galloping granny

I am so sorry, I remember you telling us about it when it happened, but I'd forgotten to ask how he was doing. He'll be in my prayers. (((granny)))

Hello, Jorline!

Thanks for the yummy recipes!

Anybody else?

We need some kosher recipes.

Only have 3 that I found on the internet at Ploome's instigation.

Also need to know what people have hearted as faves - funnies and wisdom.

re: #179 Mich-again

The words you'll never hear from the politicians:

"We really need this money to bail out the Chinese so they'll lend to us again."

re: #174 taxfreekiller

There is another one, the real Democratic snake deal its on a CD of Nancy and Harry's ledg. assistant atty's , they have it with them, they down load it 5 min before any vote, to know what the real deal is, you have to
have a Pentium 4,000 mhz speed reader to keep up with them.

One thing is sure, no one trust them at all, not even their mothers and fathers who bore them. No one. No one should.

Up dinged for truth...

re: #167 galloping granny

some deal needs to be done, but it sucks. Not doing anything is not a option. It will be expensive, but not doing stuff will be x times more expensive in the end

re: #135 stevieray

James T Kirk spelled backwards?

No, just another way of saying, "I'm a fool, please ban me."

re: #156 Sharmuta

Then what name should I be looking for?

I don't see it now, but it was not a single word, it was a phrase with about 5 words.

It is being reported at Hotair that the clause is not in the new bill.

re: #149 kiwidoc

I sent this to Charles, not realizing there was an open thread...

Watching the impending economical "catastrophe," I was struck with the memory of a more natural "catastrophe." A while back, Yellowstone National Park lost a huge portion of it's land and trees to fire...a crisis, if you will. I remember everyone claiming that the park would never be the same. The smart people (actual scientist...very similar to actual economist) knew that out of the destruction new life would arise and not only restore the park to it's former majesty, but provide the environment for even more growth and beauty. I can't help but think we could all learn a lesson from Mother Nature.

Yup - all those environuts that scream and yell about cutting so much as a twig in any of the national forests have no cause to then yell about forest fires.

re: #181 funky chicken

I just looked at provision 106, I don't see what he was referring to. He must be looking at an older version.

re: #160 galloping granny

Granny?

He needs to call the county's ombudsman for senior affairs and get out of there.

re: #194 Dianna

Granny?

He needs to call the county's ombudsman for senior affairs and get out of there.

You may be right. How very sad, if true.

re: #191 rawmuse

I don't see it now, but it was not a single word, it was a phrase with about 5 words.

It is being reported at Hotair that the clause is not in the new bill.

Still is...

re: #134 fortescue

HELP ME WITH THIS ONE SOMEBODY AM I THE ONLY ONE THROWING THINGS AT MY TELEVISION SCREEN! (sorry for the capital, but I was yelling)

*crash*
*crack*
*tinkle*

hey fortesque, looks like you bought your tv at the same place we did

=/

ya think the Repubs are allowing the left to get away with this cr@p just to energize and fire up the base? judging by the comments at rightwing blogs online and the rage in the voices talking to Rush and Sean, they sure know how to get things perking - and by the way, how could we complain? One of the GOP spokespeople DID sneak in the briefest of 'thankews' to John McCain for helping to get the bill turned around... so what if that's bubkes compared to the Dems 10 minute barrage of attacks on Republicans earlier this afternoon, before they even got around to mentioning the status of the bill?

re: #155 yenta-fada

No, it's time to start jumping up and down because of the real fragility of the financial system. Do you suppose Congress works on weekends for no reason. This is a crisis.
There will be plenty of time to assign blame. In the meantime, the bill needs to be passed so that the world markets don't freeze up and cease trading. Yes, it is that serious.

Forgive me if I give the jaundiced eye treatment when, suddenly, somebody burst on the scene and says we need 700 bil pronto, and no time for debate. I was born at night, but it was not last night.

re: #186 reine.de.tout

Hello, Jorline!

Thanks for the yummy recipes!

Anybody else?

We need some kosher recipes.

Only have 3 that I found on the internet at Ploome's instigation.

Also need to know what people have hearted as faves - funnies and wisdom.

Hey Reine
I sent a receipe to you yesterday, did you get it?
It was for a truly awesome meat marinade

re: #174 taxfreekiller

There is another one, the real Democratic snake deal its on a CD of Nancy and Harry's ledg. assistant atty's , they have it with them, they down load it 5 min before any vote, to know what the real deal is, you have to
have a Pentium 4,000 mhz speed reader to keep up with them.

One thing is sure, no one trust them at all, not even their mothers and fathers who bore them. No one. No one should.

I intend to call all of my Congress critters come morning and make it very clear that no pork of any kind and no provisions that would give a single dime of any "profit" to be made to ACORN had better sneak back into the bill unless they want hell to pay.

re: #176 jorline

Good evening, Dianna. Did you get off the meds this weekend?

I did; I took the last of both the antibiotic and the steroid on Friday morning.

Starting to feel a little less need to constantly move, though I still feel that I am possessed by the spirit of the Dominatrix of Domesticity.

re: #158 Celtic Templar

no

re: #183 doriangrey

Watched the Chargers win this afternoon (ya I know, who would have thunk it?) drinking beer most of the (OK all afternoon) afternoon. Doing pretty damned good I would say... ;)

LMAO...back to Hoopster's coffee in the morning.

re: #92 Charles

The text of the deal (PDF):

[Link: www2.nationalreview.com...]

Larry Kudlow makes the deal sound pretty good ... if certain conditions are met "to bring the House GOP along".

re: #196 doriangrey

Still is...

Are you sure? The Update II indicates that it is not, along with the bulleted items.

/just making sure

How furious are all of us that the &*&%$@ White House hung the Congressional GOP out to dry in all of this?

My God, can you imagine what complete control of Congress and White House by the Dems is going to mean? We're getting the first course now...

re: #191 rawmuse

Here's a decent side by side summary of the original bill and the changes:

[Link: www.dcexaminer.com...]

The "affordable housing slush fund" is a paraphrase of the ACORN provision.

Hat Tip: Instapundit

re: #186 reine.de.tout

Hello, Jorline!

Thanks for the yummy recipes!

Anybody else?

We need some kosher recipes.

Only have 3 that I found on the internet at Ploome's instigation.

Also need to know what people have hearted as faves - funnies and wisdom.

HEy Reine! How many recipes do you want/need. I have a catalog on my computer of approx 50 to 60 recipes of "famous" menu items Like Baby back ribs, KFC chicken w/ spices, Famous Amos Choc Chip cookies, and the like. Make your nic blue and I'll send it to ya if ya want.

re: #198 rawmuse

Forgive me if I give the jaundiced eye treatment when, suddenly, somebody burst on the scene and says we need 700 bil pronto, and no time for debate. I was born at night, but it was not last night.

My thoughts exactly...

re: #188 galloping granny

Well, maybe, but didn't little animals have to die before the big forest grew back?
So the Economy crisis could be dangerous.

If there is a bunch of pork that has been removed from this bill, I can think of whom we'd like to thank.

Wonder how toxic this bill is?

Maybe it's just me, but there didn't seem to be a great deal of enthusiasm for it from the GOP leadership. Paying lip service to the Dems?

Boehner said he's released House Republicans to vote the way they want.

A rope-a-dope strategy, perhaps?

/wishful thinking

Well $25 Billion dollars of our money is going to the US Automakers bailout now. It was already approved in congress without the public even knowing it was up for a vote.

re: #194 Dianna

Granny?

He needs to call the county's ombudsman for senior affairs and get out of there.

He can't call anybody - can't hear. He is safe for right now, my sister the nurse is down there investigating and keeping and eye on things and we have already made noises about bringing him home to recuperate so as to give her a break. (A very long one, but we can't say that since as his wife she has medical control.)

re: #101 galloping granny

No, that is not the final draft version - there must be a final draft for a vote to be taken. This is NOT it.

Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008

/straight from the House Financial Services Committee web page, happy now?

re: #190 least

No, just another way of saying, "I'm a fool, please ban me."

Wonder what kind of fool he would've developed into?

Moonbat?

Eurofascist?

Islamist?

re: #117 doriangrey

Projectile vomit alert...Paris Hilton is searching for a new BFF...

OK the top is up - let 'er rip!

re: #186 reine.de.tout

Hello, Jorline!

Thanks for the yummy recipes!

Anybody else?

We need some kosher recipes.

Only have 3 that I found on the internet at Ploome's instigation.

Also need to know what people have hearted as faves - funnies and wisdom.

{reine}

Good to see you and thanks for all the work you're putting into this cookbook.
I hope a few of mine might be kosher.

re: #198 rawmuse

Forgive me if I give the jaundiced eye treatment when, suddenly, somebody burst on the scene and says we need 700 bil pronto, and no time for debate. I was born at night, but it was not last night.

And disconcerting that our guy McCain was right there, saying "get this thing through, get this thing through" I pray that he really was working in the background, trying to strip out all the crap.

NIKKEI 225 09/29 - 9:40
12,018.10 +124.94

Nikkei 225 9/29 - 9:42
12,036.26 + 143.10

Nikkei 225 9/29 - 9:43
12,047.71 + 154.55

Going up.

re: #203 jorline

LMAO...back to Hoopster's coffee in the morning.

You are not kidding..good night lizards..
Coffee is on early

re: #216 stevieray

Wonder what kind of fool he would've developed into?

Moonbat?

Eurofascist?

Islamist?

One has to wonder... don't you have anything better to do?

re: #138 doriangrey

Gakkk... Goddess please save me from the very though of this abomination...

You have your hands full as it is...

Yeah, I have to join the chorus leaving the stage. Time for me to get the son to bed and myself.

Good night, everyone.

re: #199 rain of lead

Hey Reine
I sent a receipe to you yesterday, did you get it?
It was for a truly awesome meat marinade

Yes, I got it, it's in there, it did indeed look awsome, and thanks!

#12 needs more dings.

We could give it a telethon feel.

Mr. McFeeley of "Mr. Rogers" fame was in town today.

re: #215 Killian Bundy

Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008

/straight from the House Financial Services Committee web page, happy now?

Wonder what the Senate version will be, and what will be inserted in the committee that massages the two together [I'm blanking on its name...].

re: #201 Dianna

I did; I took the last of both the antibiotic and the steroid on Friday morning.

Starting to feel a little less need to constantly move, though I still feel that I am possessed by the spirit of the Dominatrix of Domesticity.

LOL I'm glad you're off them and hopefully you've been sleeping better as well. I may have to ask you to have five espressos and stay up with me tonight.

re: #219 cliffster

And disconcerting that our guy McCain was right there, saying "get this thing through, get this thing through" I pray that he really was working in the background, trying to strip out all the crap.

As I have said before, I will vote for McCain and work like hell for him, knowing perfectly well that should he and I succeed, he will promptly piss me off, starting on about Jan. 2009. I have no doubts of this.

re: #223 goddessoftheclassroom

You have your hands full as it is...

?

re: #214 galloping granny

He can't call anybody - can't hear. He is safe for right now, my sister the nurse is down there investigating and keeping and eye on things and we have already made noises about bringing him home to recuperate so as to give her a break. (A very long one, but we can't say that since as his wife she has medical control.)

Um.

Have your sister contact the ombudsperson and request an audit. Anyone can do it, and a relative can make all the difference.

The wife's medical control only extends so far. Particularly if she stands to benefit substantially from certain kinds of actions.

re: #186 reine.de.tout

Hello, Jorline!

Thanks for the yummy recipes!

Anybody else?

We need some kosher recipes.

Only have 3 that I found on the internet at Ploome's instigation.

Also need to know what people have hearted as faves - funnies and wisdom.

I have a ton of kosher recipes. Click on the "Contact us" link at the bottom of the Zionist Mall.

re: #229 rawmuse

As I have said before, I will vote for McCain and work like hell for him, knowing perfectly well that should he and I succeed, he will promptly piss me off, starting on about Jan. 2009. I have no doubts of this.

ROTFLMAO... Yea, but that probably true of any politician...

re: #184 vxbush

I will never understand women who control their husbands to such a degree that the husband has to ask permission to do simple things like watch TV. It's none of my business, galloping granny, but that sounds like a very strange relationship.

That is what I've been thinking. He has always loved technology - his eyes light right up when he comes home and lays eyes on the laptops. All of the girls have offered to get together and give him one - he can't write well anymore but he can type like a speed demon. She flatly refuses to have one in the house.

The last time I talked to him before the house burned down she was suddenly screaming at him like a banshee - I've not heard the like in some time. I don't remember what it was about, but it was disturbing.

And since the fire she has kept him pretty isolated - the not even so much as a TV for a man that is still intellectually very vibrant really disturbs me.

We did mention right after the fire that maybe he should come home for "a while" - first thing he asked was if he could have a dog.

re: #229 rawmuse

As I have said before, I will vote for McCain and work like hell for him, knowing perfectly well that should he and I succeed, he will promptly piss me off, starting on about Jan. 2009. I have no doubts of this.

That's bravery - straight from the book of Atticus Finch

re: #221 HoosierHoops

You are not kidding..good night lizards..
Coffee is on early

Good night, HH...see you in the morning.

re: #193 MrPaulRevere

I just looked at provision 106, I don't see what he was referring to. He must be looking at an older version.

Yeah- I saw nothing in section 106.

re: #222 cliffster

One has to wonder... don't you have anything better to do?

Nah... not at this moment.

Any tally on how many foreclosed houses the US Government owns now?

re: #215 Killian Bundy

Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008

/straight from the House Financial Services Committee web page, happy now?

Still a discussion draft Killian.

re: #227 stevieray

Wonder what the Senate version will be, and what will be inserted in the committee that massages the two together [I'm blanking on its name...].

Probably exactly the same.

/seeing as how it was already negotiated between the House and the Senate and they want to get it completely passed by Wednesday

re: #230 doriangrey

Here try this link. :)

/fixed

re: #220 Cattt

NIKKEI 225 09/29 - 9:40
12,018.10 +124.94

Nikkei 225 9/29 - 9:42
12,036.26 + 143.10

Nikkei 225 9/29 - 9:43
12,047.71 + 154.55

Going up.

NIKKEI, don't lose that number!

re: #219 cliffster

And disconcerting that our guy McCain was right there, saying "get this thing through, get this thing through" I pray that he really was working in the background, trying to strip out all the crap.

According to Bahner he was.
The House Republicans are the ones that got ACORN out and the taxpayer safeguards in.
Bahner said that McCain was instrumental in getting him listened to.

re: #228 jorline

I probably shouldn't, but if you're really bouncing, I'll try to hang.

I'm just wondering...has anyone said "Punt Bama Punt" on LGF yet?

If not, I lay claim!

re: #243 Occasional Reader

Groan! :D

I am thinking there is yet something badly amiss with this bailout plan, if Republicans are told to vote for it *if their conscience allows*
arrgghhh

re: #225 reine.de.tout

Yes, I got it, it's in there, it did indeed look awsome, and thanks!

Did you collect the latke recipe earlier?

re: #235 cliffster

That's bravery - straight from the book of Atticus Finch

The way I see it, I am fighting for the right to disagree with our President, which, as we have seen by recent events, is a right we will not have under Obama.

re: #237 Sharmuta

Yeah- I saw nothing in section 106.

That's good to know! I don't want ACORN in any section of this thing.

re: #240 galloping granny

Still a discussion draft Killian.

/they're voting on that in the House at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow morning

re: #245 Dianna

I probably shouldn't, but if you're really bouncing, I'll try to hang.

Get a good nights rest...I'm popping an Ambian in about an hour.

re: #251 rawmuse

The way I see it, I am fighting for the right to disagree with our President, which, as we have seen by recent events, is a right we will not have under Obama.

Excellent point.

What gets me is that the GOP hasn't called the Chicago Jesus out re: his claiming their plan is his. Why is my party controlled by such weenies, such wusses? I suppose they're afraid pointing out this act of piracy might endanger negotiations and the dems will sneak Acorns and other organic shit back into the bill. Forget being gentlemen, guys and gals, go for their throats, Fight team, fight!

From the yahoo story:

But Democrats surrendered other cherished goals: letting judges rewrite bankrupt homeowners' mortgages and steering any profits gained toward an affordable housing fund.

I'm guessing that was the ACORN provision?

re: #206 Rollcast

How furious are all of us that the &*&%$@ White House hung the Congressional GOP out to dry in all of this?

My God, can you imagine what complete control of Congress and White House by the Dems is going to mean? We're getting the first course now...

Absolutely furious. 100% furious. surely Bush isn't just letting his personal anger at McCain motivate him to hand the WH to Obama, and the congress to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in even stronger majorities?

Paulson's behavior has been shameful, as has GW Bush's...for at least a week. And I'm despairing of coming up with a good reason for it.

RW, are you still here?

re: #231 Dianna

Um.

Have your sister contact the ombudsperson and request an audit. Anyone can do it, and a relative can make all the difference.

The wife's medical control only extends so far. Particularly if she stands to benefit substantially from certain kinds of actions.

We don't want to upset him by making any waves that we don't have to make. Right now he is safe, he is lucid so he is in charge of what they do to him medically and my sister is there. If at all possible we would like to just get him on a plane the day they let him out of rehab for a "few months" at home while the house is rebuilt. If we can get him on the plane with no fuss then he won't be going back.

re: #225 reine.de.tout

speaking of cookbooks (and I will get a copy of the LGF cookbook when it is out) my family was helping my b-i-l clean out the family homestead
(both parents passed away) and I found m-i-l's collection of OLD cookbooks
walked away with some jewels,the best one ...THE JOY of COOKING
circa 1951 SWEEET...

re: #252 taxfreekiller

See my #249

re: #252 taxfreekiller

Americans,

Any time there is this much dust in the air in Washington D.C. it means the two party evil money cult is up to no good. This time it looks like the Republicans are in the dark also. The Democrats are covering up something big, the prior crimes, or unknown crimes about to happen, or they know we are about to get on their snake trail.

All you have to do is look at them, its like a line up at New York worst
police precinct, you know down where the real dirt gets done, and the shifty "lying eyes" would make an Eagles song cover.

Tinfoil hat on now, they're prepping the socialization of the financial sector ahead of the coronation of their media blessed stooge (the Obama).

re: #234 galloping granny

Every single thing you've written is disturbing.

I'm not a lawyer, I've had minimal contact with social services, and I've only read the funding requests of ombudsmen and senior services monitors, but some of this sounds (to me) like something that you need to get some official witnesses involved in.

FYI

Email for the LGF recipes:

reinedetout@yahoo.com