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Open | Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:48:12 pm PDT
I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.
— Mark Twain
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Bobibutu Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:50:31pm |
Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.
Sat. the 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm
Walnut Creek, CA 94595
Locals and Nomads welcome.
BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.
Bring what ever food you wish to cook.
World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.
Heated swimming pool. Bring you suits. Changing rooms etc. available.
We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.
If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.
My Halloween treat - so no cost to you.
Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.
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Irish Rose Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:56:49pm |
I wanna go!
I'll have to wait for the Midwest meet n' greet, I guess.
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zombie Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:57:13pm |
The Palin Song
(with apologies to Judy Garland)
(Sung to the tune of The Trolley Song)
(From the musical Meet Me in D.C.)
Sarah:
With my drop-dead figure
and my drop-dead looks
and my hair piled high upon my head
I'll get the Presidency,
White House residency
when John McCain drops dead!
Vote vote vote go the rednecks
Plop plop plop goes McCain
Me me me in the White House!
Then you liberals will start to feel pain
You'll worship God
We'll pray in schools
I'll teach that Darwin and Copernicus were fools
Your one-night stands
will have a price
You'll catch motherhood along with the crab lice
Democrats:
With his left-wing mantra
and his light brown skin
He's the One we've dreamt of all our lives
We're not about to let some
MILF like you upset him
So darling out come the knives!
Lie lie lie go the bloggers
Smear smear smear goes the press
Down down down goes your polling
As election day nears we will play on the fears of the left!
We will leave you bereft!
Sarah:
Don't you count on it
I stole your meme, I'm a dream, I'm the cream of the crop!
All the way to the top!
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Mel Lono Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:59:45pm |
Funny how it works out. That was meant for the other thread.... Seems to fit though.
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Bobibutu Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:02:25am |
re: #4 Irish Rose
I wanna go!
I'll have to wait for the Midwest meet n' greet, I guess.
I don't have an answer for you other than you are most welcome and expect a miracle ... ya never know.
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Clubsec Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:08:37am |
Speaking of Mark Twain quotes ...
'Man is the only animal who blushes, or has reason to do so.'
(or words to that effect)
One of his best: 'Neither life nor property is safe when Congress is in session.' (or was that Will Rogers?)
Folks grab the vasoline and get a grip on your ankles. I fear, Pelosi, Dodd, Schumer, and Frank are going to have at us hard and heavy. After all is said and done, the MSM will make it crucial that the Republicans are held to blame.
May you live in interesting times. -Votaire
TTFN
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zombie Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:10:35am |
re: #9 buzzsawmonkey
Good one, zombie!
I felt guilty putting the onus on you (I suggested you take it on), so I decided I should just do it myself.
Actually, the whole thing came to me as I was trying to fall asleep, staring at the ceiling, so I jumped up and wrote it down.
The scanning of each syllable is so perfect, I amazed even myself!
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Crux Australis Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:14:18am |
Good morning/afternoon/night from Sydney, Australia.
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Syrah Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:15:20am |
Signing off from the Puget Sound region.
Goodnight people.
As for the economic crisis that will rage in and out of control Monday and beyond, . . .
Don't Panic.
But don't lose sight of the exits either.
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Ackomanyuki Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:20:52am |
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:27:16am |
That youtube video about him professing his reasoning is pretty funny.
I just watched the Burning Down The House video. Wow. I posted THAT on my page.
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Ackomanyuki Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:29:49am |
I am trying to post a link and it is directing me to pick a catergory from the menu when I hit submit. Can someone clue me in to where this menu is?
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:31:59am |
re: #18 TheMatrix31
Burning Down the House id downright damning and must go viral.
And here's a good reason why that video needs to go viral:
What a prick.
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LeePro Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:32:24am |
re: #19 Ackomanyuki
I am trying to post a link and it is directing me to pick a catergory from the menu when I hit submit. Can someone clue me in to where this menu is?
Just above the "Link Address"
It's a drop-down box.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:32:37am |
re: #19 Ackomanyuki
The drop down menu is next to the "submit" button.
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LeePro Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:34:33am |
¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n
I'm thinking now's a good time to sneak off before LoL shows up and makes me want to stay!
G'nite, {Lizards}!
[klunk]
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:45:13am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:51:44am |
re: #26 TheMatrix31
Come on- the cover is so much better.
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zombie Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:59:36am |
re: #17 Ackomanyuki
A youtube video from a conservative five percenter explaining his support for Mccain/Palin.
That is GREAT! That needs to be seen by every black Obama supporter. He is laying down the TRUTH!
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:00:10am |
re: #27 Sharmuta
Ahahaha! I'd forgotten how much I love that video. Saved it. :)
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:02:24am |
I propose that the bailout package limit executive severance packages to a new pair of work boots and cab fare to the Brooklyn Bridge.
That way, they will have two options for doing the right thing.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:03:12am |
re: #17 Ackomanyuki
A youtube video from a conservative five percenter explaining his support for Mccain/Palin.
That's the guy who smacked down Diddy!
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MagnaniomousCoward Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:04:44am |
re: #27 Sharmuta
Come on- the cover is so much better.
"This video is not available in your country". Is it Alien Ant Farm's cover?
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Ackomanyuki Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:06:55am |
re: #28 zombie
That is GREAT! That needs to be seen by every black Obama supporter. He is laying down the TRUTH!
I posted a link. Ding it up!
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zombie Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:10:17am |
re: #34 Ackomanyuki
I posted a link. Ding it up!
Where is the link? I don't see it in the spinoffs for this thread.
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RTLM Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:10:22am |
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zombie Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:12:47am |
Are: #34 Ackomanyuki
I posted a link. Ding it up!
Ah, OK, I found it in the "link viewer" and dinged it up there. But I can't figure out how it's there and not here! Doesn't matter, I guess.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:13:44am |
I would tend to prefer the AAF version as well, but figured you guys would like the original better.
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Ackomanyuki Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:16:33am |
re: #37 zombie
A
Ah, OK, I found it in the "link viewer" and dinged it up there. But I can't figure out how it's there and not here! Doesn't matter, I guess.
Great, I was just posting directions. It looks like the third item down at present.
The link title for anyone else interested is: Video: BTW I'm Voting McCain Palin
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RTLM Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:26:25am |
Officials: 5 killed in northern Lebanon explosion
The security officials said the car packed with explosives was parked on the side of a road and detonated by remote control as the bus drove in the Bahsas neighborhood on the southern entrance to the northern port city of Tripoli.
They said the explosives used were mixed with metal balls to maximize casualties.
The blast, which tossed the car about a dozen yards, occurred during the morning rush hour, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.
I think this bombing and the one in Damascus was by Hezbollah.
(not a diversion)
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devnulled Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:31:40am |
In the spirit of Open Thread...
There better damn well be an October Surprise with all these unaddressed issues that Obama is mired in.
If Dukakis could lose for grinning like the tank-scooting moron he was then what the hell is wrong with the muckrakers for the GOP nowadays?
/short rant off
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EIDE_Interface Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:39:39am |
So what's good progressive rock these days...
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:40:14am |
re: #31 Sharmuta
That's the guy who smacked down Diddy!
If you haven't seen it: another one by him
A fight breaks out between Darth Barack and one of the common folk, when Obama demands his vote, and is told no!
political satirical kung fu light saber fun!
I love it! In one part, "Barack" gets out of breath while fighting, and the guy says "oh I'm sorry, are you out of breath? Do you need a breathalyzer? Or an inhalator?" ROFLOL!
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:51:36am |
Whoa! How long has this open thread been here?
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:52:35am |
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EIDE_Interface Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:57:03am |
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:59:39am |
Well I just posted a comment on the official McCain page at YouTube for the latest ad. I fully expect to be cursed and called names, and get lots of thumbs down votes, because it seems that more leftists post comments there than Republicans. Oh well, I hope I can handle the rejection...
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:59:41am |
A few of my favorites from them;
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littleoldlady Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:00:03am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:00:06am |
re: #1 Bobibutu
Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates... My Halloween treat - so no cost to you.
Wow... ok. I prefer flying Frontier unless of course you get a better deal with some other airline.
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EIDE_Interface Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:00:24am |
re: #50 TheMatrix31
A few of my favorites from them;
All great of course. I love Citizen Erased - it's their prog epic. It reminds me a bit of Pink Floyd.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:01:52am |
Kind of a crap-tastic day in the NFL- my team didn't even play and I'm pretty sure I took a beating in the football pool (what would be the odds everyone else did worse than me?)
Between the rabbit ears, Sattelite TV and XM radio, I was flipping between all kinds of baseball games today. So the AL Central might not be decided 'til Tuesday night? So be it- I've kinda dug the one-game playoff (granted Bucky Dent was a wee bit before mytime) and last year's between the Rockies and Padres was classic.
Kinda funny how the Yankees/Red Sox went to extra innings at Fenway before Van Every won it w/ a walk-off 2-out base hit and hardly anyone seemed to give a damn after what happened with the Brewers, Mets, White Sox and Twins today. I mean, I'm sure it looked great about this time last year when they were scheduling Yanks/BoSox to finish off the regular season.....
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:01:59am |
re: #51 littleoldlady
Hi, good to see you! Are you busy getting ready for the holiday?
/Rosh Hashana begins Tuesday, right?
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:03:56am |
re: #54 Fenway_Nation
Kind of a crap-tastic day in the NFL- my team didn't even play and I'm pretty sure I took a beating in the football pool (what would be the odds everyone else did worse than me?)
Between the rabbit ears, Sattelite TV and XM radio, I was flipping between all kinds of baseball games today. So the AL Central might not be decided 'til Tuesday night? So be it- I've kinda dug the one-game playoff (granted Bucky Dent was a wee bit before mytime) and last year's between the Rockies and Padres was classic.
Kinda funny how the Yankees/Red Sox went to extra innings at Fenway before Van Every won it w/ a walk-off 2-out base hit and hardly anyone seemed to give a damn after what happened with the Brewers, Mets, White Sox and Twins today. I mean, I'm sure it looked great about this time last year when they were scheduling Yanks/BoSox to finish off the regular season.....
Too bad for me, the Braves have been out of contention for two months now.
Last year's Rockies/Padres was unbelievable. I don't expect the same from White Sox/Twins. Just too hard to have such another awesome game.
But October is just, classic. Thank God it's almost here.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:03:56am |
re: #56 gop_patriot
LOL
That you. I just woke up to pee. Saw that there were some Lizards still awake... hi.
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nightwatch Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:04:29am |
So, the day went sumthin like dis....
Shoplifting dude reached to da waist-band and a rent-o-cop with da three-50-seven loaded wit da wad-cutters drew down and ....shot da dude in the....arm. Fact is, that a wad-cutter from a 3-50-7 makes small hole on entry but carries an acre or so of flesh out the exit! so the arm has a sort of Panoramic view through it if ya know what I say.. Now this poor illegal dude is brought unto my saving grace, and it is noted that the back side of said arm is missing MAJOR physical properties.. the uniformed officer says, "If ya want the rest of it, we'll have to scrape it off at least 3 cars in the parking lot of the 99 cent store.
"Q" "Why was he shop-lifting?
"Q" Why is there a rent-o-cop packing a 3-50-7 with wad-cutters in the parking lot of a 99 cent store ?
"Q" Why is OBAMA a candidate for CIC?
THE WORLD WANTS TO KNOW........
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:02am |
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:03am |
I can't sleep so I made some signs to put in my car tomorrow, if I can fit them in the back window:
1. Democrats caused the economic crisis by forcing banks to issue bad loans and ignoring corruption and bad management at
2. Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. Barack Obama took more money from FM & FM in 4 years than other senators took in 10!
3. Two crooked former administrators at FM & FM are or have been Obama campaign advisors! Bush tried to fix problems in 2003 and McCain
4. tried to fix them in 2005 but Democrats did not cooperate! Democrats, Obama, and Socialism are not the solution!
5. Real reform, sensible regulation, and letting free markets & capitalism work is! McCain/Palin '08!
Can anyone suggest any additions or corrections (within reason)?
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:03am |
re: #58 Walter L. Newton
Hi Walter.
I didn't think of the whole "treat" thing. Guess I'll be flying out too. ;)
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:56am |
re: #57 TheMatrix31
Last year's Rockies/Padres was unbelievable. I don't expect the same from White Sox/Twins. Just too hard to have such another awesome game.But October is just, classic. Thank God it's almost here.
Expect the unexpected.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:06:01am |
re: #58 Walter L. Newton
Well, not too many, I thought I'd killed the thread there for a minute. I'm good at that.
Btw, how are you recovering from your surgery?
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:06:19am |
re: #61 Tigger2005
Wow- you going to fit all that in your car window?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:08am |
re: #62 Sharmuta
Hi Walter.
I didn't think of the whole "treat" thing. Guess I'll be flying out too. ;)
Kewl, old Bobi is going to take a big hit on this one.
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:14am |
re: #36 RTLM
Syria says Islamist bomber behind deadly blast
(Zoinks!)
shocka! who would have guessed that?
/
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littleoldlady Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:20am |
re: #55 gop_patriot
gop! :-)
Tonight, actually. As usual I'm way behind schedule, plus my computer decided that today was the day to begin an arm wrestling competition.
/I don't think I'm winning... :-(
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:22am |
re: #65 Sharmuta
Wow- you going to fit all that in your car window?
Yeah, I may not be able to see out the back very well, but how else am I going to get the whole message across?
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EIDE_Interface Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:43am |
Buffalo Bills are 4-0. I think they're going back to the Super Bowl. Maybe they'll meet the Cowboys again - but this time they'll win.
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littleoldlady Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:09:06am |
re: #69 Tigger2005
Yeah, I may not be able to see out the back very well, but how else am I going to get the whole message across?
Billboard?
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:09:47am |
re: #70 EIDE_Interface
Buffalo BillsThe only NFL Team with a New York State Mailing Address are 4-0. I think they're going back to the Super Bowl. Maybe they'll meet the Cowboys again - but this time they'll win.
Thought I'd clean that up a little.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:10:12am |
re: #71 littleoldlady
Billboard?
LOL I don't have the cash to rent billboard space and by tomorrow I doubt I'll be able to get one on credit ...
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:11:13am |
re: #64 gop_patriot
Well, not too many, I thought I'd killed the thread there for a minute. I'm good at that. Btw, how are you recovering from your surgery?
Ok. Althought, two days after the operation, I was all swollen up, and black and blue down to the scrotum, so I went into the acute car clinic and the nurse tells me "That's pretty normal... you'll be ok."
I told her I have a a lot of surgery in the past, including hernia surgery, and I have never bruised up like this betore.
A few days later I had my first "official" follow up visit. The nuse looked at me and said "That's not normal, but you'll be ok."
Yea, idiots. A lot of the bruising is vanishing (although my balls are still black, is that TMI) and I still have a lot of swelling.
I probably got some intern practicing. Managed care, gotta love it.
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:11:46am |
just got back from Insane Diego.....
Fear & Agent Orange were great, as was GFI.
Dr. Know, OTOH, sucked pretty much. high point was some kick droping off the balcony into the mosh pit......... what a fool
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:12:00am |
re: #69 Tigger2005
Yeah, I may not be able to see out the back very well, but how else am I going to get the whole message across?
Armed insurection?
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:12:41am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:13:16am |
Maybe it would help my typing if I turned on the lights? Nah... then I would have to wake up.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:13:24am |
re: #61 Tigger2005
Have you thought about getting one of those magnetic signs custom-made? Then again, you'd still have to boil it down to a few key sentences to make it have any immediate impact.
/Must be nice being a liberal...one's oh-so-nuanced-and-complex worldview seems to fit quite nicely on a simplistic platitude-laden bumper sticker.
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:13:43am |
re: #74 Walter L. Newton
Ok. Althought, two days after the operation, I was all swollen up, and black and blue down to the scrotum, so I went into the acute car clinic and the nurse tells me "That's pretty normal... you'll be ok."
I told her I have a a lot of surgery in the past, including hernia surgery, and I have never bruised up like this betore.
A few days later I had my first "official" follow up visit. The nuse looked at me and said "That's not normal, but you'll be ok."
Yea, idiots. A lot of the bruising is vanishing (although my balls are still black, is that TMI) and I still have a lot of swelling.
I probably got some intern practicing. Managed care, gotta love it.
better you than me.......
(and no, i *don't* want to feel your pain %-)
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:14:51am |
re: #81 Fenway_Nation
Have you thought about getting one of those magnetic signs custom-made? Then again, you'd still have to boil it down to a few key sentences to make it have any immediate impact.
/Must be nice being a liberal...one's oh-so-nuanced-and-complex worldview seems to fit quite nicely on a simplistic platitude-laden bumper sticker.
mine w*rks pretty well: "BITE ME!"
%-)
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:16:48am |
re: #82 redc1c4
better you than me....... (and no, i *don't* want to feel your pain %-)
Actually, that has been the high side of all this, I haven't had much pain at all. I have a high pain tolerance anyway.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:18:08am |
re: #68 littleoldlady
Tonight, actually. As usual I'm way behind schedule, plus my computer decided that today was the day to begin an arm wrestling competition.
/I don't think I'm winning... :-(
Ack, sorry to hear about your computer! I sure hope it starts running smoothly again.
And sorry you're behind schedule. Story of my life.
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littleoldlady Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:20:11am |
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:20:50am |
re: #51 littleoldlady
sorry late for fruit. What!, no pineapple? Morning, maam.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:21:49am |
re: #74 Walter L. Newton
Ok. Althought, two days after the operation, I was all swollen up, and black and blue down to the scrotum, so I went into the acute car clinic and the nurse tells me "That's pretty normal... you'll be ok."
I told her I have a a lot of surgery in the past, including hernia surgery, and I have never bruised up like this betore.
A few days later I had my first "official" follow up visit. The nuse looked at me and said "That's not normal, but you'll be ok."
Yea, idiots. A lot of the bruising is vanishing (although my balls are still black, is that TMI) and I still have a lot of swelling.
I probably got some intern practicing. Managed care, gotta love it.
What were you operated on for?
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:22:55am |
re: #54 Fenway_Nation
I feel for you. But my Chargers took the Raiders down in the hood. Not saying it was pretty though.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:23:00am |
re: #74 Walter L. Newton
Yikes.
I guess if it's going away, it's not too serious. And I can't imagine that you'd let them brush you off if you thought it was serious. ;) Hope it heals up completely, and soon.
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littleoldlady Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:27:57am |
I have to scoot in a minute. No time to read the previous thread. Can anyone give me a quick summary? Was there Lizard consensus?
/and how screwed are we?
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:30:20am |
You all please go take a look at this -
There are a dozen or more on the same theme by the same "theme" by the same guy. Outright lies that Sarah Palin is against Jews, etc. All linked in as "related" to the neat video pasted up top.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:31:16am |
re: #20 Sharmuta
Well, if the 0ne's gonna use Katrina anaolgies, I guess there's nothing left to do but stand back and admire 0bama's William Jefferson-like handling of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:32:03am |
re: #99 littleoldlady
I have to scoot in a minute. No time to read the previous thread. Can anyone give me a quick summary? Was there Lizard consensus?
/and how screwed are we?
Little, we are screwed enough that it really makes little difference "how much."
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RTLM Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:32:03am |
re: #99 littleoldlady
I have to scoot in a minute. No time to read the previous thread. Can anyone give me a quick summary? Was there Lizard consensus?
/and how screwed are we?
Oh, not as bad as people think.
:)
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:32:14am |
re: #54 Fenway_Nation
and last year's between the Rockies and Padres was classic.
OH. and just so we remember.... Holland still hasn't touched the plate.
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:37:26am |
re: #100 galloping granny
This guy has uploaded 50 videos, and they all have almost the same title. I think there are only about 3 original videos there, he just keeps uploading them over and over. What a freak.
Oh, and I've noticed that on the official McCain ad videos, most of the 'related videos' are ANTI McCain. At least the ones I've watched. I don't know how they set it up, maybe they change or rotate, and I got a bad rotation. Haven't checked Obama's official channel/ads to see if the 'related videos' are anti-Obama yet.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:10am |
re: #79 Sharmuta
Promote this link?
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
OK, I tried reducing it to 3 signs:
1. Democratic social engineering policies caused our economic crisis. Bush & McCain tried to prevent it in 2003, 2005, & 2007.
2. The same party that caused the problem is now taking credit for the emergency fix that may not even work!
3. The TRUTH about our economic crisis that Democrats & the media are not telling you: (youtube link)
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:24am |
re: #97 Mel Lono
The NFL awards style points now?
I made it a point to take in as much baseball on the XM radio as I could. Given the nature of the sports broadcast biz and what happened to Skip Caray last month, for all I know, this could be the last time I had a chance to listen to a Harry Kalas, Milo Hamilton or Dave Niehaus call the play-by-play live.
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littleoldlady Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:27am |
granny! :-)
RTLM! :-)
Okay. No consensus. ;-)
Shanah Tovah, y'all!
May You Be Written and Sealed for a Good Year, Full of Good Health, Happiness and Prosperity!
Good day, ALL!™
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:38am |
re: #75 redc1c4
So did you hide in the back, away from the scary people, or were you right up in it? :)
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:39:19am |
re: #104 Mel Lono
OH. and just so we remember.... Holland still hasn't touched the plate.
Holliday?
That's OK. Barrett never had the ball anyways.
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yochanan Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:41:25am |
re: #12 winston06
very nice place, great to look at but a bit pricey went through there by train a few times the train stops there for 2 hours.
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:41:59am |
re: #110 Fenway_Nation
Holliday?
That's OK. Barrett never had the ball anyways.
The story gets better as we age.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:42:02am |
re: #105 gop_patriot
This guy has uploaded 50 videos, and they all have almost the same title. I think there are only about 3 original videos there, he just keeps uploading them over and over. What a freak.
Oh, and I've noticed that on the official McCain ad videos, most of the 'related videos' are ANTI McCain. At least the ones I've watched. I don't know how they set it up, maybe they change or rotate, and I got a bad rotation. Haven't checked Obama's official channel/ads to see if the 'related videos' are anti-Obama yet.
What is this - some kind of effort to appear "fair and balanced" you think?
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yochanan Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:42:50am |
re: #108 littleoldlady
granny! :-)
RTLM! :-)
Okay. No consensus. ;-)
Shanah Tovah, y'all!
May You Be Written and Sealed for a Good Year, Full of Good Health, Happiness and Prosperity!Good day, ALL!™
AND YOU AND YOURS L.O.L.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:42:59am |
re: #106 Tigger2005
OK, I tried reducing it to 3 signs:
1. Democratic social engineering policies caused our economic crisis. Bush & McCain tried to prevent it in 2003, 2005, & 2007.
2. The same party that caused the problem is now taking credit for the emergency fix that may not even work!
3. The TRUTH about our economic crisis that Democrats & the media are not telling you: (youtube link)
Awesome! And this way you might be able to still use your window.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:43:57am |
re: #108 littleoldlady
granny! :-)
RTLM! :-)
Okay. No consensus. ;-)
Shanah Tovah, y'all!
May You Be Written and Sealed for a Good Year, Full of Good Health, Happiness and Prosperity!Good day, ALL!™
And to you too Little. Have a wonderful day.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:46:48am |
re: #106 Tigger2005
Where's Fox Mulder when we need him? The Truth is out there.........
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:51:29am |
re: #118 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning, Lizards!
Morning Goddess. Getting ready for school? What's on the plate today for the kiddies?
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:51:59am |
re: #118 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning- I hope you had a nice weekend.
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:53:52am |
{galloping granny}
{Sharmuta}
Today I'm reviewing/introducing grammar concepts to 9th graders--one of my FAVORITE things to teach!
My weekend was meh, but it got better.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:55:05am |
I just found this from a big ad linked on the front page (top left no less!) at Ynetnews - maybe some of you folks can use something here -
[Link: www.rjchq.org...]
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:55:06am |
re: #110 Fenway_Nation
So, since the NL West sucks this year (never a dodger fan), I'm a Cubs fan now. What say you?
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:02am |
re: #121 goddessoftheclassroom
{galloping granny}
{Sharmuta}Today I'm reviewing/introducing grammar concepts to 9th graders--one of my FAVORITE things to teach!
My weekend was meh, but it got better.
Grammar - do you use a prepared curriculum or do your own?
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:25am |
re: #102 galloping granny
Little, we are screwed enough that it really makes little difference "how much."
I refuse to accept that we HAVE to accept being screwed. Americans need to make up their minds that they are not going to take it anymore. We've found it too easy, while times were good or at least not too bad, to let our elected officials get away with murder. If we don't get fully involved in the political process en masse and hold these people accountable, this is what we're going to get. There is a disturbing willingness to give in to despair and hopelessness on this blog, as if people have just given up on democracy and representative government. The bad things about this bill can be changed, fixed, or even removed, even AFTER it has been signed into law, but it will take strong and sustained effort from ALL of us to accomplish this.
As I said on a previous thread, our fathers, grandfathers, great and great-great grandfathers left their farms, businesses, homes, and families to fight and DIE for this country. Yet many of us seem to think it's just too HARD to fight the liberals, the spread of socialism & entitlements, and the culture of corruption and inertia in Washington, when the enemy is not even shooting at us (yet).
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:29am |
re: #112 Mel Lono
The story gets better as we age.
Especially when the setting moves to the 2007 World Series. Red Sox made it so that it never came down to a solitary play at the plate.
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akak Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:38am |
Morning Lizards!
Shana Tova to Jewish scaly ones!
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:57:18am |
re: #117 Sharmuta
Where's Fox Mulder when we need him? The Truth is out there.........
Fox Mulder would blame it on the aliens and the Cigarette Smoking Man ...
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:57:59am |
re: #123 Mel Lono
So, since the NL West sucks this year (never a dodger fan), I'm a Cubs fan now. What say you?
Oddly enough, I thought the large crimson 'B' that served as my avatar and my screen-name might be a giveaway to where my loyalties lie.
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:00:05am |
re: #124 galloping granny
Grammar - do you use a prepared curriculum or do your own?
The core concepts for 9th grade are complex sentences with noun, adjective, and adverb clauses: defining, identifying, and creating them. However, since there's been NO continuity in our District's grammar instruction, I start with a comprehensive review to "spackle the cracks," so to speak. I wrote the review myself based on what the 11th graders in the SAT Prep class didn't know,
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:00:31am |
re: #113 galloping granny
What is this - some kind of effort to appear "fair and balanced" you think?
I wonder! I'm heading to bed now (good Lord it's 5 in the morning), but I might check around YouTube tomorrow, to see what they consider "related videos".
Goodnight, y'all, hope everyone has a great day tomorrow. :)
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:00:34am |
re: #128 Tigger2005
Fox Mulder would blame it on the aliens and the Cigarette Smoking Man ...
0bama smokes...... coincidence? I think not!
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:02:23am |
re: #125 Tigger2005
I refuse to accept that we HAVE to accept being screwed. Americans need to make up their minds that they are not going to take it anymore. We've found it too easy, while times were good or at least not too bad, to let our elected officials get away with murder. If we don't get fully involved in the political process en masse and hold these people accountable, this is what we're going to get. There is a disturbing willingness to give in to despair and hopelessness on this blog, as if people have just given up on democracy and representative government. The bad things about this bill can be changed, fixed, or even removed, even AFTER it has been signed into law, but it will take strong and sustained effort from ALL of us to accomplish this.
As I said on a previous thread, our fathers, grandfathers, great and great-great grandfathers left their farms, businesses, homes, and families to fight and DIE for this country. Yet many of us seem to think it's just too HARD to fight the liberals, the spread of socialism & entitlements, and the culture of corruption and inertia in Washington, when the enemy is not even shooting at us (yet).
Now there I could not agree with you more. I just don't think there is any point in trying to quantify how much or little our "representatives" are screwing us over these days. Things have become nasty enough down in DC (and lots of other places too) that quantifying is something like being a little bit pregnant.
One lizard posted last night that he just isn't going to take it anymore. When he goes into the voting booth he is not going to be voting for many incumbents - maybe none at all.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:03:19am |
re: #131 gop_patriot
I wonder! I'm heading to bed now (good Lord it's 5 in the morning), but I might check around YouTube tomorrow, to see what they consider "related videos".
Goodnight, y'all, hope everyone has a great day tomorrow. :)
G'night patriot. That would be good if you could.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:03:42am |
re: #132 Sharmuta
0bama smokes...... coincidence? I think not!
LOL! Good Monday morning, Shar, and thanks for the spew...how are you today?
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gop_patriot Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:04:46am |
OK one more thing before I go. Check your Cadbury chocolates!
Cadbury Recalls Chinese-Made Chocolates, Safety in 'Doubt'
HONG KONG — British chocolate maker Cadbury said Monday tests have "cast doubt" on the safety of its Chinese-made products and ordered a recall, the latest foreign company affected by China's tainted milk scandal.
Tests "cast doubt on the integrity of a range of our products manufactured in China," Cadbury said without elaboration in a statement issued from its office in Singapore.
Yikes.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:05:07am |
re: #130 goddessoftheclassroom
The core concepts for 9th grade are complex sentences with noun, adjective, and adverb clauses: defining, identifying, and creating them. However, since there's been NO continuity in our District's grammar instruction, I start with a comprehensive review to "spackle the cracks," so to speak. I wrote the review myself based on what the 11th graders in the SAT Prep class didn't know,
Good for you! (At least your district still has grammar instruction!)
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:05:35am |
re: #129 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, you're the wild card again. Good Karma. I'm a NL guy so I had to pick a team.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:06:05am |
re: #136 gop_patriot
OK one more thing before I go. Check your Cadbury chocolates!
Cadbury Recalls Chinese-Made Chocolates, Safety in 'Doubt'
Yikes.
Cadbury is made in China now? Sheesh - who knew?! Of course Hershey's is moving to Mexico so maybe I shouldn't be too surprised.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:06:52am |
re: #135 scottishbuzzsaw
Morning, Scotti- I'm good. How are you?
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:13:32am |
re: #138 Mel Lono
NL....well, I have a C.C. Sabathia autographed baseball and I got Gabe Kapler's autograph earlier this year- almost got J.J. Hardy's autograph, too, but he bolted to stand on the infield with his teammates as soon as the PA announcer asked everyone to stand for the anthem.
Plus....as someone who had been waiting awhile for good things to happen, you gotta admit that 26 years between playoff appearences is a long time.
It's no 1908, but still.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:14:25am |
re: #139 galloping granny
Might be for the Cadbury that's distributed in Hong Kong.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:16:54am |
re: #140 Sharmuta
Morning, Scotti- I'm good. How are you?
I'm doing well, sweetie...catching up on the Bailout detail thread...and wondering who has cursed us with "May you live in interesting times." Very interesting indeed...
Did you have a good weekend?
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:17:00am |
re: #142 Fenway_Nation
Might be for the Cadbury that's distributed in Hong Kong.
Oh, that's true. It never even crossed my mind that Cadbury would be selling chocolates in Hong Kong. :( Coffee must be in order - apparently I am pretty obtuse this morning.
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:20:25am |
re: #109 gop_patriot
So did you hide in the back, away from the scary people, or were you right up in it? :)
backstage...... (i *am* a scary person.%-)
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:24:50am |
re: #143 scottishbuzzsaw
My weekend wasn't too bad. Thanks for asking.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:26:24am |
Good morning all. And yes, coffee may be a cure for obtuseness. At least I hope to hell it is.
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:01am |
re: #141 Fenway_Nation
Always laugh at the Dodgers fans when they bring out the last series pennant. What have they done lately? Even a Padres fan can get a rise out of that, just don't call me in the morning. We're golfing.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:06am |
Good Morning Lizard Nation.
Well, we have our bail out. According to 60 Minutes last night, Pelosi is the heroine, who protected the public from evil Republicans..
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:09am |
{Lucius Septimius}!
Good morning! How are you?
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:27am |
re: #146 Sharmuta
My weekend wasn't too bad. Thanks for asking.
You linked to 'Highway to Hell' in that thread?! LOL!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:33am |
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:28:43am |
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:29:12am |
re: #152 MandyManners
That explains why Hershey bars have tasted so nasty of late. I noticed last spring when we started keeping them in the house for S'mores that Hershey barely tasted like chocolate anymore.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:30:27am |
re: #150 goddessoftheclassroom
I"m doing ok. Starting Thucydides today in one class; they also have drafts due, so I have a lot of reading to do for the next few days.
How are things up your way?
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:31:38am |
re: #153 MandyManners
If it's not made with cocoa butter, it's not called "chocolate".
Nope. Sure isn't.
Peter Paul hasn't used it in decades IIRC.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:33:32am |
MLB playoff tems are all set except the AL Central.
The White Sox & Twins are like the Undead, they just refuse to die.
Sox down a half game, play Detroit in a make up. If they win ,a one game play in with the Twins in Chicago.
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:34:47am |
re: #155 Lucius Septimius
I"m doing ok. Starting Thucydides today in one class; they also have drafts due, so I have a lot of reading to do for the next few days.
How are things up your way?
School is going well.
The thing I used to hate most about drafts is that many students didn't make a real effort because they expected me to correct all their mistakes.
Now I give them a rubric checklist of what I'm grading, I check drafts for a thesis statement, supporting topic sentences, and a conclusion and then leave them to it.
College, of course, is very different, The most excruciating thing I remember is my theatre professor READING my paper aloud to me during a conference. Nonetheless, that was a very effective approach, and one of the many advantages of attending a very small college!
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:37:28am |
re: #158 goddessoftheclassroom
I use a rubric check-list as well -- it has definitely streamlined the process.
I had a professor in college who made us make appointments to pick up our midterms. We sat down and he went through each question I got wrong and asked "why did you write that?"
It was excruciating.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:37:53am |
re: #147 Lucius Septimius
Good morning all. And yes, coffee may be a cure for obtuseness. At least I hope to hell it is.
You and me both. It has served me well over the years. One of my daughters is working 60 hours a week and going to college full time to boot - as a physics major no less. When she bemoaned her lack of sleep yesterday I told her that there was a reason that I drank coffee by the gallon from an IV drip when I was doing that: 45 minutes sleep between 2:25 and 3:00 am. LOL
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ibmkeyboard Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:38:30am |
British chocolate maker Cadbury said Monday that tests have "cast doubt" on the safety of its Chinese-made products and ordered a recall, the latest foreign company affected by China's tainted milk scandal.
Meanwhile, two U.S. food makers were investigating Indonesian claims that high traces of melamine were found in Chinese-made Oreos, M&Ms and Snickers.
Thank God they didn't put lead in those products.
My high school figure is already hurting.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:39:42am |
We will soon be living in a pretty bad neighborhood. Russia is going to build a nuclear reactor for Venezuela.
We don't have to be concerned though, Chavez says it is just for peaceful use. So, all is well. Uh huh, all that oil & Hugo needs nuclear power.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:41:54am |
re: #158 goddessoftheclassroom
School is going well.
The thing I used to hate most about drafts is that many students didn't make a real effort because they expected me to correct all their mistakes.
Now I give them a rubric checklist of what I'm grading, I check drafts for a thesis statement, supporting topic sentences, and a conclusion and then leave them to it.
College, of course, is very different, The most excruciating thing I remember is my theatre professor READING my paper aloud to me during a conference. Nonetheless, that was a very effective approach, and one of the many advantages of attending a very small college!
I don't suppose you would like to pass over that rubric? I'll trade you for the best little guide to logical argument I've come across :)
/A Rulebook for Arguments. Cheap and short. I liked it so well and all of my kids (who are either in college themselves or write for a living) borrowed it so much I went back and ordered a half dozen more copies.
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unclassifiable Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:42:53am |
re: #162 opnion
You can already hear it.
If the U.S. would have talked nicely to Mr. "I smell sulfur" Chavez, this would have not happened.
The Democratic foreign policy brief is simple:
Preemptive surrender will bring peace.
/grabs fruit cup and coffee, grumbles
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:43:22am |
re: #162 opnion
We will soon be living in a pretty bad neighborhood. Russia is going to build a nuclear reactor for Venezuela.
We don't have to be concerned though, Chavez says it is just for peaceful use. So, all is well. Uh huh, all that oil & Hugo needs nuclear power.
Like I said last night, not to worry. Money crisis will be off the news cycle by Wednesday and Russia was steaming nuclear vessels into our ocean. That is John McCain's bailiwick.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:43:28am |
re: #148 Mel Lono
You're a Padres fan- you might appreciate this. I went to all three games of that Red Sox/Padres series at PetCo last year. I had an armload of stuff that I brought with me on the off chance that I might get some of it autographed. As I parked the car, I was listening to the Padres pre-game show and heard that Tony Gwynn was filling in for the regular hosts. I didn't give it much thought until I walked by one of the hotels by the Convention Center. There was the radio station's banner and sure enough, they were doing the pre-game show live from the hotel's bar. While waiting for a commerical break, I dug around a little and pulled out a Rawlins baseball that Tony autographed for me when he wasn't on the air.
Turns out it was the only autograph I was able to get that weekend- Padres or Red Sox.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:44:08am |
Study shows that" the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in pseudoscience than evangelical Christians."
This was interesting:
Surprisingly, while increased church attendance and membership in a conservative denomination has a powerful negative effect on paranormal beliefs, higher education doesn't. Two years ago two professors published another study in Skeptical Inquirer showing that, while less than one-quarter of college freshmen surveyed expressed a general belief in such superstitions as ghosts, psychic healing, haunted houses, demonic possession, clairvoyance and witches, the figure jumped to 31% of college seniors and 34% of graduate students.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:44:43am |
re: #164 unclassifiable
You can already hear it.
If the U.S. would have talked nicely to Mr. "I smell sulfur" Chavez, this would have not happened.
The Democratic foreign policy brief is simple:
Preemptive surrender will bring peace.
/grabs fruit cup and coffee, grumbles
Probably. Obama blamed the Russian invasion of Georgia, on the US setting a "Bad Example" in Iraq.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:45:03am |
re: #161 ibmkeyboard
Thank God they didn't put lead in those products.
My high school figure is already hurting.
Oh boy! I guess all the kiddies will be getting little cans of playdoh or cute pencils at our house this Halloween.
/So glad the daughter is allergic to chocolate!
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:45:12am |
re: #163 galloping granny
Here are my grading standards.
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ibmkeyboard Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:45:38am |
re: #162 opnion
We will soon be living in a pretty bad neighborhood. Russia is going to build a nuclear reactor for Venezuela.
We don't have to be concerned though, Chavez says it is just for peaceful use. So, all is well. Uh huh, all that oil & Hugo needs nuclear power.
Just hope they don't let the Three Stooges operate it like in Chernobyl.
When do the centrifuges start spinning?
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:46:15am |
re: #165 galloping granny
Like I said last night, not to worry. Money crisis will be off the news cycle by Wednesday and Russia was steaming nuclear vessels into our ocean. That is John McCain's bailiwick.
Barry will need another bracelet. This time he should memorize the name.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:47:02am |
re: #170 Lucius Septimius
Here are my grading standards.
Super! Thanks Lucius. Do you mind if I print out a copy for the kiddo?
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:47:25am |
The story begins back in May, when a judge in Modica (in Sicily) found local historian and author Carlo Ruta guilty of the crime of "stampa clandestina" – or publishing a "clandestine" newspaper – in respect of his blog. The judge ruled that since the blog had a headline, that made it an online newspaper, and brought it within the law’s remit.
The penalties for this crime are not onerous: A fine of 250 Euros or a prison sentence of up to two years. Carlo Ruta was fined and ordered to take down his site, which has now been replaced by a blank page, headed "Site under construction", and a link directing surfers to his new site. Hardly serious stuff – except that he now has a criminal record, and his original site has disappeared.
The offence has its origins in 1948, when in apparent contradiction of Article 21 of the Italian Constitution guaranteeing the right to free expression, a law was passed requiring publishers to register officially before setting up a new publication. The intention, in the immediate aftermath of Fascism, may have been to regulate partisan and extremist publications. The effect was to introduce into Italian society a highly centrist and bureaucratic approach to freedom of the Press.
A further twist to this tale took place in 2001, with the realisation that existing laws were inadequate to deal with the internet. Instead of liberalising, the Italian Government sought to bring the internet into the same framework as traditional print media. Law 62, passed in March 2001, introduces the concept of "stampa clandestina" to the internet.
SNIP
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ibmkeyboard Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:48:10am |
re: #169 galloping granny
Oh boy! I guess all the kiddies will be getting little cans of playdoh or cute pencils at our house this Halloween.
/So glad the daughter is allergic to chocolate!
I wish mine were.
We just checked a Dollar General candy bar,
Made In China.
sheeesh!
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:49:12am |
re: #173 galloping granny
No problemo.
Most of the info in there comes from many years of reading papers, as well as my own student experience. Nearly all of the comments in the "composition" section are based on comments I received on papers.
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Moe Katz Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:49:42am |
re: #160 galloping granny
45 minutes sleep between 2:25 and 3:00 am. LOL
You mean you're so accelerated by the coffee that you get 45 minutes sleep in a 35 minute interval?
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:49:43am |
re: #174 MandyManners
SNIP
Reason 24, 973 to be so very grateful that I was born and live in the United States of America!
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:50:18am |
re: #169 galloping granny
Oh boy! I guess all the kiddies will be getting little cans of playdoh or cute pencils at our house this Halloween.
/So glad the daughter is allergic to chocolate!
Kids just love a scoop of ice cream in their trick or treat bags!
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:50:27am |
re: #178 galloping granny
Reason 24, 973 to be so very grateful that I was born and live in the United States of America!
As soon as Barry Hussein is elected, that benefit will cease to exist. Count on it.
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Moe Katz Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:50:53am |
re: #168 opnion
Probably. Obama blamed the Russian invasion of Georgia, on the US setting a "Bad Example" in Iraq.
Eeeeek. This guy is truly scary.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:51:41am |
re: #177 Moe Katz
You mean you're so accelerated by the coffee that you get 45 minutes sleep in a 35 minute interval?
That too - though inability to function as yet is a product of lack of caffeine. I'm not motivated enough to get out of the chair.
/That heavens it was you who caught my lousy addition and not the kiddo! I guess I had better get a move on before I start teaching math. Usually works best if you actually know something about what you're teaching.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:52:42am |
re: #181 Moe Katz
Eeeeek. This guy is truly scary.
He thinks that we need to be punished & Michelle agrees.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:53:00am |
Time to get ready to go to work. Long day ahead of me.
Later, all.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:53:13am |
re: #180 Lucius Septimius
As soon as Barry Hussein is elected, that benefit will cease to exist. Count on it.
I'm hoping that the signs of rebellion I keep seeing and hearing are going to result in an awful lot of incumbents out on their ears and a big surprise for Barry concerning his moving plans.
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Moe Katz Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:54:17am |
re: #182 galloping granny
That too - though inability to function as yet is a product of lack of caffeine. I'm not motivated enough to get out of the chair.
/That heavens it was you who caught my lousy addition and not the kiddo! I guess I had better get a move on before I start teaching math. Usually works best if you actually know something about what you're teaching.
I've actually been admiring your intellect on these early morning posts, this glitch notwithstanding. Pity we're on different cycles.
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Moe Katz Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:56:03am |
re: #183 opnion
He thinks that we need to be punished & Michelle agrees.
There was some sort of collective guilt thing with Carter too. The result may be similar national acts of self-abasement.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:57:43am |
re: #174 MandyManners
I'm sure that hag Sgrena's Il Manifesto rag would be exempt if it had a blog.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:58:22am |
re: #186 Moe Katz
I've actually been admiring your intellect on these early morning posts, this glitch notwithstanding. Pity we're on different cycles.
Why thank you! My cycle tends to change some with the season so maybe we'll run into each other more often.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:58:46am |
re: #187 Moe Katz
There was some sort of collective guilt thing with Carter too. The result may be similar national acts of self-abasement.
Yeah, Carter somehow thought that we needed some sort of weird cleansing. Instead of solving problems, he liked to lecture.
The Obamas seem to be another degreee. There are racial & class warfare components.
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Moe Katz Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:00:05am |
re: #189 galloping granny
Why thank you! My cycle tends to change some with the season so maybe we'll run into each other more often.
Let's hope so. I just woke up because my nose got too stuffed up from this sinus cold. I'll be heading back to bed for now.
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ibmkeyboard Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:00:09am |
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Sunday his Republican rival John McCain deserves no credit for helping to forge a tentative agreement on the $700 billion bailout of Wall Street.
With about 90 percent of voters against this bailout,
I guess McCain should appreciate comments like that.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:01:17am |
re: #183 opnion
He thinks that we need to be punished & Michelle agrees.
My husband and I, over the weekend, were trying to remember the last time the liberal/left acted in America's best interest...we went back a few decades and came up empty handed.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:02:19am |
re: #193 scottishbuzzsaw
My husband and I, over the weekend, were trying to remember the last time the liberal/left acted in America's best interest...we went back a few decades and came up empty handed.
Maybe all of the way back to FDR?
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Crux Australis Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:02:35am |
My take on Obama -
He's like a used car salesman who is trying to sell you a car that isn't quite right and he lies through his teeth in the process.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:02:46am |
re: #192 ibmkeyboard
With about 90 percent of voters against this bailout,
I guess McCain should appreciate comments like that.
That is a good way to look at it.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:04:17am |
If you do not feel good about the bailout, buck up,
Nancy Pelosi calls it a 'Buy in." See, thats better.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:05:49am |
I hope Gov. Palin jacks up Biden on economics and the DNC's role in this crisis.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:06:22am |
re: #188 Fenway_Nation
I'm sure that hag Sgrena's Il Manifesto rag would be exempt if it had a blog.
I have no idea what that's about.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:06:32am |
Jesus Christ ... I know this guy is selling something, but this is such scary shit I nearly crapped my pants.
Since first warning my subscribers to follow the smart money fleeing the dollar more than three years ago, the greenback has lost 40% of its value against gold. Now I am issuing a Four-Point Storm Warning Alert: Make Preparations Now, or Face Becoming A Pauper Overnight!
National bankruptcy and financial chaos are here. The politicians are preparing a draconian emergency response which will loot your assets and seriously undermine your freedom...
You need a plan. NOW!
We face a financial implosion of the American Dream on a scale that truly dwarfs the gas shock and out-of-control inflation of the '70s...
...the Savings and Loan failures of the '80s and '90s...
...or any other financial crisis our nation has faced since the Great Depression itself!
You know big trouble is brewing when top federal Comptroller General (David Walker) recently quit in frustration because as our government's top accountant had warned in vain – the nation's finances are going over a cliff and no one is acting to stop it...
...or a recent finding by the Congressional Budget Office that the federal insolvency crisis is so deep every U.S. household would have to cough up half-a-million dollars each just to save the federal government from bankruptcy! (And, as I show you shortly, the financial debt leverage of U.S. consumers themselves is even more scary.)
Now the word "Depression" is a strong term. But the "D-word" is exactly what's being bandied about by a surprising number of experts. Read on, because I name names!
Look Who Also Sees a
"Perfect Economic Storm" Building
A significant number of former high-level U.S. officials share my alarm that a "perfect storm" of financial woes are finally starting to catch up with the U.S. economy.
Unfortunately, because so many of these former insiders are no longer in a position of authority, the mainstream financial media rarely quote their blunt statements about dark storm clouds building over our economy.
For example, Former Treasury official (and now columnist) Paul Craig Roberts, recently said "Financially the U.S. is not an independent country... the U.S. is bankrupt."
Very recently, former Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Paul Volcker stunned conferees of the prestigious New York Economic Club with this comment about the emerging dollar and bankruptcy crisis, "You don't have to predict it. We're in it."
High-profile international capital giants such as Barclays Capital are now advising their elite clientele to "batten down the hatches for a worldwide financial storm." Departing from its typically diplomatic tone, Barclays Capital added that the U.S. Federal Reserve has allowed the inflation genie out of its bottle and let its credibility fall "below zero."
My name is Lee Bellinger, publisher of the monthly financial, health, and taxation intelligence advisory Independent Living. In my two decades of publishing discreet information about government threats to your liberty, health, and prosperity, never have we produced as important a document as my best-selling new mega-manual, The National Bankruptcy Survival Guide: Everything You Need to Invest Wisely, Live Comfortably, and Retire Worry-Free During the Coming Inflationary Depression.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:07:21am |
re: #195 Crux Australis
My take on Obama -
He's like a used car salesman who is trying to sell you a car that isn't quite right and he lies through his teeth in the process.
Funny, that's the first thing that came to my mind when he stepped onto the national stage...
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Crux Australis Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:08:31am |
re: #193 scottishbuzzsaw
When has the liberal/left ever done anything in their own countries interest?
It seems to be a global epidemic unfortunately.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:12:30am |
re: #203 Crux Australis
When has the liberal/left ever done anything in their own countries interest?
It seems to be a global epidemic unfortunately.
Yes, it does. Very similar to how the progressive/fascist movement in the early 20th century was a world-wide event...this is not comforting.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:14:05am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:14:13am |
re: #201 Tigger2005
Hey Tigger. Where is this available?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:25am |
re: #205 scottishbuzzsaw
Good morning, FBV...how are you today?
Still a little "groggy". Dog didn't seem to have any problem going right back to sleep. Me? Sitting on the couch with you, so I must be fine.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:27am |
From a link up top that is at best disturbing -
The administration tells us that the government is going to make money for the taxpayers on this deal. Really? I think, by most measures, that is called socialism. It has failed every time it has been tried. Capitalism fails when it evolves toward socialism. I would defy anyone to show me a financial deal in which the federal government bought property cheaper from a ready willing and able seller or sold property for more than a ready, willing and able seller could have than a private entity.
[Link: www.humanevents.com...]
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Crux Australis Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:43am |
Would you believe that 2 networks in Australia are televising the VP debate. They aren't televising the Presidential debates.
I wonder why not?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:59am |
Killgore's Vacation update (for those who give a shit).....
Still in Mauririus having a nice time. I stopped my another mosque today in Grand Bai. Very large, very new, very loud call to prayer. There was a little kiosk out front so I stopped to look. They had a pile of DVD sermons from Khalid Yasin for abot $3 each. I picked out a few ("Issues deviding the Ummah" and "Islam and the Media"). When I went to give the guy his money he said, "not for you" and took the DVDs from me.
Other than that the Mauritians are mostly Hindu, very shy and practical buisiness like people. Friendly, helpful but not overly polite ass kissers. The fish are freshand women are slim, beatiful and modest.
I have the Nipple Song stuck in my head.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:16:29am |
re: #210 MandyManners
Hey Mandy! Whodathunk Tigger was a big shot publisher?
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:16:37am |
re: #209 Crux Australis
Would you believe that 2 networks in Australia are televising the VP debate. They aren't televising the Presidential debates.
I wonder why not?
Gov. Palin.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:18:02am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Why did he take them from you? Because you don't "look" Muslim?
Have a great and safe time!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:18:34am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Keep safe Kilgore. Come back to us.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:19:13am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Wow! Not for infidels! What a wonderful religion of tolerance!
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:19:37am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
And of course some of us give a shit.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:20:22am |
re: #216 Sharmuta
Wow! Not for infidels! What a wonderful religion of tolerance!
Perhaps he thought KT looked a bit, uh, shall we say, "un-terrorist".
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:20:41am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Killgore's Vacation update (for those who give a shit).....
Still in Mauririus having a nice time. I stopped my another mosque today in Grand Bai. Very large, very new, very loud call to prayer. There was a little kiosk out front so I stopped to look. They had a pile of DVD sermons from Khalid Yasin for abot $3 each. I picked out a few ("Issues deviding the Ummah" and "Islam and the Media"). When I went to give the guy his money he said, "not for you" and took the DVDs from me.Other than that the Mauritians are mostly Hindu, very shy and practical buisiness like people. Friendly, helpful but not overly polite ass kissers. The fish are freshand women are slim, beatiful and modest.
I have the Nipple Song stuck in my head.
How very strange. Too bad there isn't someone you can send down to buy those DVDs for you.
/I wonder what is on them the guy is trying to hide?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:22:37am |
Uh, thanks KT. Now I have the "Nipple Song" stuck in my head too. That is hysterical!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:22:39am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
There has been no evidence that has surfaced, no bona fide irrevocable, irrefutable evidence that had been surfaced that showed that there is a group called al-Qa'ida that did the September 11 bombings. I'm of the opinion there was a rogue operation that took place. Now, to go beyond that would say I would have to have some evidence, which I don't... An operation that took place with the complicity of some very sophisticated entities other than some middle aged, Middle Eastern guys on an airplane, or being orchestrated by someone in a cave in Iraq with a walkie-talkie.[11]
Regarding the collapse of the World Trade Center following the impacts from the Aircraft, Yasin stated that "We now know that the way that the World Trade Center fell the way that those buildings fell — they seem like they fell from internal explosive charges, the same way it's done in a construction site."[11]
Maybe I've missed him but, I had not idea who this American was.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:23:55am |
re: #206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey Tigger. Where is this available?
It was from GOPUSA Business E-mail List.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:24:40am |
re: #219 galloping granny
How very strange. Too bad there isn't someone you can send down to buy those DVDs for you.
/I wonder what is on them the guy is trying to hide?
I wonder if there's a bell-boy wanting to make a tidy tip.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:24:57am |
re: #214 MandyManners
I'm pretty sure he knew what I was looking for in those DVD's. I didn't recognize the name at the time (I had to google when I got back to the house). Now I'm really sorry he wouldn't sell them to me. I strongly suspect the Mosques here are Wahabi funded.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:25:20am |
re: #224 MandyManners
I wonder if there's a bell-boy wanting to make a tidy tip.
I did find the "Islam and the Media" DVD on Youtube.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:26:08am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:26:09am |
re: #221 MandyManners
I think we've had threads on him before and I think he was featured in the first "Undercover Mosque" episode.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:05am |
re: #223 Tigger2005
It was from GOPUSA Business E-mail List.
Wait a minute. Tigger? You not Lee Bellinger?
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:12am |
re: #225 Killgore Trout
Send someone to buy them for you!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:18am |
re: #226 galloping granny
I did find the "Islam and the Media" DVD on Youtube.
Let me guess: The Jooos control the media?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:57am |
re: #230 MandyManners
I'm not sure it's worth it. The videos are probably available online for free.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:28:54am |
re: #231 Killgore Trout
Let me guess: The Jooos control the media?
It is pretty long - cut up in parts - so I haven't listened to it.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:29:12am |
re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You're welcome.
;)
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:29:15am |
re: #232 Killgore Trout
I'm not sure it's worth it. The videos are probably available online for free.
Well, I'm stubborn enough to resort to Lucy-levels to get something when I'm refused.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:29:19am |
So, I just sent my sister who thinks she wants to vote for Obama this link - [Link: www.barackobamatest.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:30:07am |
re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait a minute. Tigger? You not Lee Bellinger?
Seriously, I thought you have made that post of of desperation. Thought you had gone "Jim Cramer" on us.
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jim in virginia Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:31:00am |
Morning all. Looks like a lovely day here in the DC 'burbs. Weekend rains are gone, sun is rising.
Lucius! Long time no see. How are the kiddos?
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Tamron Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:31:52am |
QUESTION: Why does the recently passed housing bill have a hidden provision requiring that ALL credit card transactions in the US, be reported to the IRS?
Hidden deep in Senator Christopher Dodd's 630-page Senate housing legislation [HR 3221] is a sweeping provision that affects the privacy and operation of nearly all of America's small businesses.
As FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey commented: "This is a provision with astonishing reach, and it was slipped into the bill just this week. Not only does it affect nearly every credit card transaction in America, such as Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express, but the bill specifically targets payment systems like eBay's PayPal, Amazon, and Google Checkout that are used by many small online businesses. The privacy implications for America's small businesses are breathtaking."
From the Senate Bill Summary:
Payment Card and Third Party Network Information Reporting. The proposal requires information reporting on payment card and third party network transactions. Payment settlement entities, including merchant acquiring banks and third party settlement organizations, or third party payment facilitators acting on their behalf, will be required to report the annual gross amount of reportable transactions to the IRS and to the participating payee.
Reportable transactions include any payment card transaction and any third party network transaction. Participating payees include persons who accept a payment card as payment and third party networks who accept payment from a third party settlement organization in settlement of transactions.
A payment card means any card issued pursuant to an agreement or arrangement which provides for standards and mechanisms for settling the transactions. Use of an account number or other indicia associated with a payment card will be treated in the same manner as a payment card. A de minimis exception for transactions of $10,000 or less and 200 transactions or less applies to payments by third party settlement organizations.
The proposal applies to returns for calendar years beginning after December 31, 2010. Back-up withholding provisions apply to amounts paid after December 31, 2011. This proposal is estimated to raise $9.802 billion over ten years.
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jim in virginia Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:33:32am |
re: #190 opnion
Yeah, Carter somehow thought that we needed some sort of weird cleansing.
"Cleansing" reminds me of colonoscopy prep, and the fact that some people pay for spa treatments that include that
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:35:42am |
re: #239 Tamron
the bill specifically targets payment systems like eBay's PayPal, Amazon, and Google Checkout that are used by many small online businesses. The privacy implications for America's small businesses are breathtaking.Wow! Why is this the government's business? How much tax money will be used to keep track of this? How many trees will die for the paper-work?
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quickjustice Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:36:45am |
re: #201 Tigger2005
Uh, respectfully, we're already over the cliff and in mid-air. The only question right now is, how hard a landing will it be?
That fear-monger is WAY too late. The only thing that could have avoided this was a degree of self-denial, self-discipline, and fiscal integrity not encouraged in consumer societies.
Time to pay the piper after a long collective binge. The good news: we can and will do it!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:37:56am |
I looks like Pres. Bush got some sleep this weekend. He looked like shit last week.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:39:42am |
re: #242 quickjustice
Uh, respectfully, we're already over the cliff and in mid-air.
I'm reminded of Calvin and Hobbes in their red wagaon.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:40:01am |
To the tune of
"Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home."
Be it ever so crumbly;
There's no place like Rome.
Nero He was the ruler;
And the palace was his home.
But, he liked to play with matches;
And for a fire he yearned.
So he burned Rome to ashes;
And fiddled while it burned.
Bugs Bunny was a freakin' Nostradamus. And we've got a freakin' pile of Neros.
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quickjustice Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:42:02am |
re: #243 MandyManners
It's tough to keep all the balls in the air. He finally got Iraq right, only to have the economy tank. He's not personally to blame, but we all were distracted from the economy by the furious fight over the Iraq insurgency and the rosy reports coming out of the financial press.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:44:47am |
Right-wing parties make big gains in Austria
If we have to re-invade these pricks again I'm really gonna be pissed.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:46:59am |
Well the early markets are dumping out anyway.
Looks like a hard fall is going to happen, folks.
Best advice I can give is take the long run view, keep working if you can, don't go into anymore debt, and hang on.
I still think some of the downfall could be softened if the eliminated the "mark to market" requirement.
Also, if the FDIC would raise the insurance limit on deposits to $1 that should stop some of the cash run going on against the banks.
But at this point, with all the bad news and all the screwing around by Congress and finger pointing, you have a stampede going on.
Good luck and hang in there.
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:47:42am |
This whole mess is playing into Obama's playbook. He comes across as" I told you the GOP isn't capable of handling the economy". In the meantime, we have McCain unable (for what reason I can't image) to attach the democrats for their hand in this. He needs to yell loud and clear. Start naming names, McCain or you are toast!
what is he waiting for? If he makes a big enough stink, the MSM will have to show it and maybe, just maybe, the truth can trickle out.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:48:04am |
I mean to raise the FDIC insurance to $1 million
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:48:33am |
ACORN on Fox. James Perry calls it corrupt and that it will benefit from the crisis that it helped create.
When will Fox mention BHO and his representation of ACORN?
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:48:57am |
re: #246 quickjustice
It's tough to keep all the balls in the air. He finally got Iraq right, only to have the economy tank. He's not personally to blame, but we all were distracted from the economy by the furious fight over the Iraq insurgency and the rosy reports coming out of the financial press.
It must be the toughest job in the world.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:51:23am |
re: #248 3 wood
Well the early markets are dumping out anyway.
Looks like a hard fall is going to happen, folks.
Best advice I can give is take the long run view, keep working if you can, don't go into anymore debt, and hang on.
I still think some of the downfall could be softened if the eliminated the "mark to market" requirement.
Also, if the FDIC would raise the insurance limit on deposits to $1 that should stop some of the cash run going on against the banks.
But at this point, with all the bad news and all the screwing around by Congress and finger pointing, you have a stampede going on.
Good luck and hang in there.
If this is going to happen anyway maybe they should just skip the bailout. . . . yeah, right.
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Tamron Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:51:25am |
THE UNKNOWN 20 TRILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
by Flemming Funch
2003-10-30
There is a busy little private company you probably never have heard about, but which you should. Its name is the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation. See their website. Looks pretty boring. Some kind of financial service thing, with a positive slogan and out there to make a little business. You can even get a job there. Now, go and take a look at their annual report. Starts with a nice litte Flash presentation and has a nice message from the CEO. And take a look at the numbers. It turns out that this company holds 23 trillion dollars in assets, and had 917 trillion dollars worth of transactions in 2002. That's trillions, as in thousands of thousands of millions. 23,000,000,000,000 dollars in assets.
As it so turns out, it is not because DTCC has a nice website and says good things about saving their customers money that they are trusted with that kind of resources. Rather it is because they seem to have a monopoly on what they do. In brief, they process the vast majority of all stock transactions in the United States as well as for many other countries. And - and that's the real interesting part - 99% of all stocks in the U.S. appear to be legally owned by them.
In the old days, when you owned stocks you would have the stock certificates lying in your safe. And if you needed to trade them, you needed to get them shipped off to a broker. Nowadays that would be considered very cumbersome, and it would be impractical to invest via computer or over the phone. So the shortcut was invented that the broker would hold your stocks instead of you. And in order for him to legally be able to trade them for you, the stocks were placed under their "street name". I.e. they're in the name of the brokerage, but they're just holding them in trust and trading them for you. And you're in reality the beneficiary rather than the owner. Which is all fine and dandy if everything goes right. Now, it appears the rules were then changed so the brokers are not allowed any longer to put the stocks in their own name. Instead, what they typically do is to put the stocks into the name of "Cede and Company" or "Cede & Co" or some such variation. And the broker might tell you that it is just a fictitious name, and will explain why it is really more practical to do that than to put it in your name.
The problem with that is that it appears that Cede isn't just some dummy name, but an actual corporation that DTCC controls. And, well, if you ask anybody about this, who actually knows about it, they will naturally tell you that it is all a formality. To serve you better, of course. And, well, maybe it is. DTCC seems like a nice and friendly company. It is a private company, owned by the same people (major U.S. banks) who own the Federal Reserve Bank. And if they all stick to their job, and just keep the money and your stocks flowing smoothly, I'm sure that is all well and good. But if somebody at some point should decide otherwise, and there's a national U.S. emergency and/or the U.S. government becomes unable to pay its debts, well, they might just not give you your stocks back. Because legally they own them. Something to think about.
(Reminder: This article was written in 2003)
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:55:11am |
Fox is the only one on the TV that is talking about ACORN, and just like the web...we are preaching to the choir. It will take something "newsworthy", like a press statement from McCain or someone that can pull the critical media's attention.
Hummm...maybe someone like Sarah? Let her loose, John!
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:55:20am |
re: #249 Beach Lover
This whole mess is playing into Obama's playbook. He comes across as" I told you the GOP isn't capable of handling the economy". In the meantime, we have McCain unable (for what reason I can't image) to attach the democrats for their hand in this. He needs to yell loud and clear. Start naming names, McCain or you are toast!
what is he waiting for? If he makes a big enough stink, the MSM will have to show it and maybe, just maybe, the truth can trickle out.
Maybe he is waiting to get people on records with their vote. Especially Barry, who announced he was leaving DC and didn't intend to vote unless they needed him. That was early yesterday or the night before.
Late yesterday Nancy Pelosi stated that those who had conflicts of interest with this legislation should not vote.
Leaving us with only two choices -
1.) Barry didn't bother to cast a vote, therefor he admits that he has conflicts of interest in the matter (now there is some ammunition!)
2.) Barry has to vote up or down and take the responsibility for his vote. No coming back later shoving the responsibility off to someone else.
Win/win by the way I see it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:55:34am |
re: #252 MandyManners
It must be the toughest job in the world.
As hard as it appears to be, from the way people are killing themselves trying to get the job, (whispering) "I don't think they know." Shhhh.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:00:05am |
re: #257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
As hard as it appears to be, from the way people are killing themselves trying to get the job, (whispering) "I don't think they know." Shhhh.
BHO might think that it'll be easy for him 'cause he has 300 advisers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:01:30am |
re: #258 MandyManners
300 is only as a candidate. Imagine how many if he wins (shudder).
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:01:45am |
re: #256 galloping granny
maybe...bet Obama will not vote until he sees how McCain votes. Oh I would love for McCain to vote against this bill. In fact, all the pubbies should vote against it. The bill would have passed long ago if the dems had really wanted it to, they have enough votes without the pubbies. I think Boehner opened the door for it when he said for his fellow Republican's the vote their conscience.
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Tamron Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:02:36am |
re: #258 MandyManners
BHO might think that it'll be easy for him 'cause he has 300 advisers.
--And 30 teleprompter operators.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:02:41am |
re: #260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
300 is only as a candidate. Imagine how many if he wins (shudder).
I wonder if Soros will get the Lincoln bedroom.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:04:34am |
re: #264 MandyManners
I wonder if Soros will get the Lincoln bedroom.
I believe Soros already has plans to redecorate it...;>) Hmmm...what would be his style?
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Jim in Virginia Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:04:41am |
re: #258 MandyManners
And he doesn't need foreign policy expertise becasue he has Joe Biden.
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:05:53am |
re: #264 MandyManners
I wonder if Soros will get the Lincoln bedroom.
nah, nah, nah! It will be renamed the Reverend Wright Bedroom.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:09:22am |
re: #261 Beach Lover
maybe...bet Obama will not vote until he sees how McCain votes. Oh I would love for McCain to vote against this bill. In fact, all the pubbies should vote against it. The bill would have passed long ago if the dems had really wanted it to, they have enough votes without the pubbies. I think Boehner opened the door for it when he said for his fellow Republican's the vote their conscience.
If only 25% of Americans support this bill, it might well be that Dems do not have enough votes without the Republicans. Ultimately, those congress-critters work for the citizens of their home states - not the Democrat party. I suspect it has been made more than clear to some of them that they had best not vote for the thing if they want to stay in Congress.
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legalpad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:12:10am |
re: #247 Killgore Trout
You know, I've always wondered exactly why the Nazi's were considered "right-wing". Is it because they hated communists? Can't dictators hate each other? After all right wing here means no abortions, keep your guns, go to church, work hard, save your money. As far as I am concerned if somebody doesn't want you to have guns, whatever else they think, they are not right-wing.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:14:17am |
OH MY GOD! Here is the October Surprise folks - right on time. From Obama's own "Fight the Smears" website -
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
The Obama site cites FactCheck.Org -
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Which means he cannot be POTUS - not natural born!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:18:03am |
Gotta' roust The Kid and get his day going. bbl
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vxbush Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:18:06am |
re: #271 galloping granny
OH MY GOD! Here is the October Surprise folks - right on time. From Obama's own "Fight the Smears" website -
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
The Obama site cites FactCheck.Org -
Which means he cannot be POTUS - not natural born!
Except he was born in Hawaii, which was, I believe, a part of the US at that time. Born on American soil, therefore an American.
Sorry, granny. Oh, and morning, everyone.
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Moe Katz Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:21:31am |
re: #270 legalpad
As far as I am concerned if somebody doesn't want you to have guns, whatever else they think, they are not right-wing.
There are different kinds of conservatism. It's not all on a single continuum.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:22:18am |
re: #273 vxbush
Except he was born in Hawaii, which was, I believe, a part of the US at that time. Born on American soil, therefore an American.
Sorry, granny. Oh, and morning, everyone.
Nope. A child of one US Citizen and One Kenyan citizen - no matter where he was born - was in 1961 a DUAL citizen. (As they would be today.) You cannot be a DUAL citizen and be natural born for the purposes of being POTUS.
Further, under the rules in place at the time Obama was born, when he turned 18 he had to choose his nation of citizenship and renounce citizenship in the other nation. Making him a naturalized citizen. If he did not renounce his Kenyan citizenship then he might very well not affirmed his US citizenship (which he also had to do.) Which might mean that he is not actually a citizen of anywhere, both citizenships having expired when he turned 21.
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Edgar Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:23:24am |
re: #270 legalpad
You know, I've always wondered exactly why the Nazi's were considered "right-wing".
European right-wing is a lot different than American right-wing.
Just shows how vague these terms are...
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:23:39am |
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Edgar Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:24:36am |
re: #278 galloping granny
Which might mean that he is not actually a citizen of anywhere, both citizenships having expired when he turned 21.
Maybe he's from Vatican City.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:25:16am |
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:25:22am |
re: #278 galloping granny
Nope. A child of one US Citizen and One Kenyan citizen - no matter where he was born - was in 1961 a DUAL citizen. (As they would be today.) You cannot be a DUAL citizen and be natural born for the purposes of being POTUS.
Further, under the rules in place at the time Obama was born, when he turned 18 he had to choose his nation of citizenship and renounce citizenship in the other nation. Making him a naturalized citizen. If he did not renounce his Kenyan citizenship then he might very well not affirmed his US citizenship (which he also had to do.) Which might mean that he is not actually a citizen of anywhere, both citizenships having expired when he turned 21.
Seems to good to be true, but I am going with you. That would be hilarious &Bgreat foer the Republic.
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:25:43am |
re: #283 scottishbuzzsaw
Mornin' cuz...how are you today?
just marvolus darlink, how I love these fall mornings nice to be alive.
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Miss Trixie Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:26:01am |
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
A cloudy drizzly day in the valley with no hope of sinshine for the rest of the week. So it goes.
Awfully busy at work today so this is a quick drive-by and hope I can pop back in later.
{realwest} Morning, cupcake! *smoochie* *huggles* Hope you're feeling fine today and you're in my thoughts as always.
See yez.
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Edgar Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:05am |
re: #286 opnion
Seems to good to be true, but I am going with you. That would be hilarious &Bgreat foer the Republic.
It's pretty unlikely we would be the first to notice such a discrepancy. Must be an explanation for how it worked out.
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:16am |
re: #286 opnion
I love it but whats the odds of it going anywhere?
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:19am |
re: #288 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
A cloudy drizzly day in the valley with no hope of sinshine for the rest of the week. So it goes.
Awfully busy at work today so this is a quick drive-by and hope I can pop back in later.
{realwest} Morning, cupcake! *smoochie* *huggles* Hope you're feeling fine today and you're in my thoughts as always.
See yez.
Oh my... It was a run by fruiting.....
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:54am |
re: #284 Edgar
Maybe he's from Vatican City.
Well, if he was born in a manger in Bethlehem, that complicates the citizenship.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:28:18am |
re: #285 doriangrey
Good morning scottishmarshmallow..... ;)
I suppose that means you want some coffee? Here...;>)
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:28:43am |
re: #290 ratso
I love it but whats the odds of it going anywhere?
Somewhere between zero and absolutely no fucking way you racists pig.....
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:28:54am |
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:29:14am |
re: #293 scottishbuzzsaw
I suppose that means you want some coffee? Here...;>)
Why thank you cuttie pie.... ;)
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:29:44am |
re: #294 doriangrey
dorian? what was that marked out thingy there?
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:30:03am |
re: #287 ratso
just marvolus darlink, how I love these fall mornings nice to be alive.
Glad to hear you're doing well...autumn is my favorite time of year...any Bailey's this morning or are we suppose to behave?
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:30:18am |
re: #297 ratso
dorian? what was that marked out thingy there?
Channeling the Obama supporters.... ;P
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:00am |
re: #298 scottishbuzzsaw
Glad to hear you're doing well...autumn is my favorite time of year...any Bailey's this morning or are we suppose to behave?
ya know, I have a wee bit in my coffee here at this moment :) Missed ya saturday by the way.
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:33am |
re: #278 galloping granny
I've seen this around for a long time, and as much as I hope it is true, if it were that simple, why hasn't it been proven before now? To keep from getting Hillary?
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:44am |
re: #286 opnion
Seems to good to be true, but I am going with you. That would be hilarious &Bgreat foer the Republic.
I have been saying this right along because I am intimately familiar with the rules that were in place when Barry was born - which still apply to him this very day. The difference is that the Obama Fight the Smears website is admitting that Barry is a dual - or maybe a not at all - citizen of the US and citing FactCheck as their authority.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:49am |
re: #253 galloping granny
If this is going to happen anyway maybe they should just skip the bailout. . . . yeah, right.
Maybe, but I honestly think it would have been much worse without it.
As it is, I think we will have a 1 to 2 year world wide recession. Without the plan it would have been a depression.
But hang on, it's going to get rocky regardless. I think a lot more banks are going to fall. If they had done this a few weeks ago, the damage would have been less.
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legalpad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:55am |
re: #276 Moe Katz
There are different kinds of conservatism. It's not all on a single continuum.
There is this whole picture of a continuum, sort of a sliding scale going left or right. The idea is that "extreme" right is just too much of regular right. I just don't agree with that thought structure. If there is a scale, then Hitler and Stalin are on the same side of that scale, not at opposite ends, regardless of formal economic policies, possibly their main difference.
I think the issue is centralization of power with fewer individual rights or check and balance of power with more individual rights.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:32:06am |
re: #300 ratso
ya know, I have a wee bit in my coffee here at this moment :) Missed ya saturday by the way.
Phooey. I was here bright and early Sat...did you sleep in?
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:32:12am |
re: #298 scottishbuzzsaw
Glad to hear you're doing well...autumn is my favorite time of year...any Bailey's this morning or are we suppose to behave?
Hrump.... Former nearly practically almost famous Rock Star here.... Me behave? /scratch's head trying to figure out what the word "behave" means.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:32:42am |
Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)
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opnion Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:03am |
re: #301 Beach Lover
I've seen this around for a long time, and as much as I hope it is true, if it were that simple, why hasn't it been proven before now? To keep from getting Hillary?
Yeah Hillary would have used it. She did start a rumor that Barry fathered two Black babies & nothing.
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Edgar Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:12am |
re: #303 galloping granny
The difference is that the Obama Fight the Smears website is admitting that Barry is a dual - or maybe a not at all - citizen of the US and citing FactCheck as their authority.
It's a confusing thing. Maybe they got it wrong. "Admitting" is a bit of a loaded term.
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:41am |
re: #309 HoosierHoops
Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)
hoops, already did ya missed it
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:54am |
re: #307 doriangrey
Hrump.... Former nearly practically almost famous Rock Star here.... Me behave? /scratch's head trying to figure out what the word "behave" means.
I would never mistake you for someone who behaved, luv...
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:33am |
re: #306 scottishbuzzsaw
Phooey. I was here bright and early Sat...did you sleep in?
naaaa, my grandson was on my puter all saturday morning
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:34am |
re: #309 HoosierHoops
Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)
Why THANK YOU HH! How are you today?
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:37am |
re: #309 HoosierHoops
Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)
Oh goodies, she can build me that deck I have been wanting for awhile now... ;)
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:50am |
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Edgar Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:35:11am |
re: #305 legalpad
There is this whole picture of a continuum, sort of a sliding scale going left or right. The idea is that "extreme" right is just too much of regular right. I just don't agree with that thought structure. If there is a scale, then Hitler and Stalin are on the same side of that scale, not at opposite ends, regardless of formal economic policies, possibly their main difference.
I think the issue is centralization of power with fewer individual rights or check and balance of power with more individual rights.
In theory both "extreme right" and "extreme left" would be utopias. The problem is hero worship in those cases, and hunger for power (which is present on both sides of the spectrum).
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:36:09am |
re: #315 scottishbuzzsaw
I would never mistake you for someone who behaved, luv...
Whoose... I was worried there for a second... Wouldn't want my reputation to be tarnished or anything.... ;P
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:36:35am |
re: #317 scottishbuzzsaw
Why THANK YOU HH! How are you today?
Hey Scottish..Doing wonderful today..It's going to get up to 79 today..Not bad at all for the end of sept.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:37:20am |
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:37:37am |
re: #323 HoosierHoops
Hey Scottish..Doing wonderful today..It's going to get up to 79 today..Not bad at all for the end of sept.
I wish it would only get up to 79 here... More like 90...
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:37:56am |
re: #270 legalpad
You know, I've always wondered exactly why the Nazi's were considered "right-wing". Is it because they hated communists? Can't dictators hate each other? After all right wing here means no abortions, keep your guns, go to church, work hard, save your money. As far as I am concerned if somebody doesn't want you to have guns, whatever else they think, they are not right-wing.
Yes, the German National Socialist Deutsches Arbeitspartei (National Socialist German Worker's Party, to give those murderous bastards their full and correct name) was so "anti-communist" that they initially had a secret agreement with the USSR to train their military in Russia to evade the restrictions of the Versailles Treaty. Followed by the Molotov- von Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pact they signed a few weeks before Stukas began screaming down on Polish border posts in September of '39. After which the two joined in dividing up Poland, with the Soviets taking the opportunity to dispose of a few hundred "awkward" Polish officers at Katyn Forest- officers turned over to them by the Germans, for the most part.
Early on, the Nazis were a straight, doctrinaire, left-wing socialist party which took its cues from Moscow. The pro-Russian elements in its leadership were mainly from northern Germany. The more nationalistic, less "international" contingent was from the southern part of the country, notably around Nuremberg and Munich. It was this lot that the German army's intelligence section sent an agent to infiltrate in 1921. Unfortunately for the entire world, that agent was a former infantry corporal named Adolf Hitler, who saw an opportunity to bring his fantasies to life, and took it. The "northerners" were soon consigned to the back benches- and later, mostly to the death camps.
Even Benito Mussolini, the man who coined the term "fascism", was originally a member of the Italian Communist Party, who broke away because he didn't want Italy taking orders from the Russians, whom he personally despised almost as much as he did the Catholic Church.
I might also point out that much of the "doctrine" of the modern-day "progressive" crowd (primitivism, nature worship, hatred/suspicion of Jews and Christianity, anti-intellectualism) is taken almost word for word from the so-called naturphilosophie ("Natural Philosophy") movement in Germany in the early 1800s, which longed for a return to a pre-Christian "pure" state of being. The writers who advocated this, such as Friedrich Nietzsche and Ernst Hegel, were also strong influences on the NSDAP's "philosophy".
Not to mention Karl Marx, and Friedrich Engels.
The roots of our modern-day madnesses, on the left and right, run very deep indeed.
(Excuse me, but I cannot really say "cheers" here, for obvious reasons, and no one here deserves my other salutation, "clear ether")
eon
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:38:21am |
Can't. Stop. Watching. Kilgore's. Nipple. Song.
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:38:30am |
re: #313 Edgar
It's a confusing thing. Maybe they got it wrong. "Admitting" is a bit of a loaded term.
It is not the least bit confusing. The "natural born" provision is intended to elminate those who might owe allegiance to some other nation from the Presidency. Under the rules in place at the time that Obama was born neither dual citizens - which he now admits to being - and naturalized citizens (as many people born abroad to two American parents are - like my daughter) are both not considered "natural born." My daughter was naturalized at birth, thus she can never be present. From the facts that Obama's own website is citing and FactCheck is confirming, Obama was a dual (actually he was a triple - see that Indonesian school record) and was thus required to choose at age 18 - when he would have become a naturalized citizen, just as ineligible as my daughter is.
However he apparently did not choose at all. His Kenyan citizenship expired and without positive actions on his part to confirm his intent to exercise his US citizenship, that might very well have simultaneously expired. Leaving him perhaps a citizen of Indonesia.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:39:14am |
re: #327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can't. Stop. Watching. Kilgore's. Nipple. Song.
Kilgore has a song about showing his nipple? Ewww gross...
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:39:46am |
re: #325 doriangrey
I wish it would only get up to 79 here... More like 90...
Are you telling me that not everything is perfect in Paradise?
I find that hard to believe!
Have you finished the mind control ray yet? I was going to borrow it and go to DC for the day..
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:39:53am |
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:40:46am |
re: #328 galloping granny
It is not the least bit confusing. The "natural born" provision is intended to elminate those who might owe allegiance to some other nation from the Presidency. Under the rules in place at the time that Obama was born neither dual citizens - which he now admits to being - and naturalized citizens (as many people born abroad to two American parents are - like my daughter) are both not considered "natural born." My daughter was naturalized at birth, thus she can never be
presentpresident. From the facts that Obama's own website is citing and FactCheck is confirming, Obama was a dual (actually he was a triple - see that Indonesian school record) and was thus required to choose at age 18 - when he would have become a naturalized citizen, just as ineligible as my daughter is.However he apparently did not choose at all. His Kenyan citizenship expired and without positive actions on his part to confirm his intent to exercise his US citizenship, that might very well have simultaneously expired. Leaving him perhaps a citizen of Indonesia.
PIMF
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:41:04am |
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:41:18am |
re: #326 eon
Well said...but I miss your 'cheers' anyway...
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legalpad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:42:17am |
re: #320 Edgar
In theory
That's the key, I guess. Real humans need that check and balance, need to be ready to counterbalance error, instead of letting the error become unstoppable.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:43:25am |
re: #330 HoosierHoops
Are you telling me that not everything is perfect in Paradise?
I find that hard to believe!
Have you finished the mind control ray yet? I was going to borrow it and go to DC for the day..
We wouldn't call it The peoples Republic of California Paradise if everything wasn't perfect here... My part of it should be finished this afternoon... It will should heading for the Wrong East Coast for testing somewhere around the end of Oct or beginning of Nov.
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:44:21am |
re: #333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good morning, FBV.
Great video. But that song........
Oh, that's just wrong. On so many levels.
More coffee, with a side order of brain bleach.
cheers
eon
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:45:28am |
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:46:05am |
re: #339 doriangrey
Morning wood.... (Hmmm did that come out right?)
Have you been watching the Nipple Song? ;>)
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:46:07am |
re: #336 doriangrey
We wouldn't call it The peoples Republic of
CaliforniaParadise if everything wasn't perfect here... My part of it should be finished this afternoon... It will should heading for theWrongEast Coast for testing somewhere around the end of Oct or beginning of Nov.
hey dorian, is that the homeland security hardware i've read of lately?
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:46:53am |
Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:01am |
We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.
Have a good morning all.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:21am |
re: #337 eon
For the record. That is totally Kilgore Trout's fault.
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beblebrox Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:33am |
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:58am |
re: #343 3 wood
We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.
Have a good morning all.
is that in the chicagoland area where 3 is?
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:48:26am |
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legalpad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:48:34am |
re: #326 eon
Fascinating history. It explains some. But it is still not clear how the "extreme" right in the U.S. is just too much regular right as sometimes seems implied.
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beblebrox Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:49:22am |
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:49:57am |
re: #343 3 wood
We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.
Have a good morning all.
Obama is coming to town?
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vxbush Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:50:05am |
re: #332 galloping granny
PIMF
Ah. That makes more sense, at least with respect to your daughter. :D
However, I think you and I know that the Dems would pull out every trick in the book--and create a few as well--to make sure that he's on the ballot in November if anyone should challenge this. And wouldn't this have to be challenged in each state where he is listed on the ballot? I wish the rule of law still applied to Democrats, but that has been proven to be false over the last two years (and possibly decades). Very sad.
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:50:08am |
re: #334 scottishbuzzsaw
Well said...but I miss your 'cheers' anyway...
Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"
My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"
No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.
The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.
Thank God I'm a Lizard.
cheers
eon
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vxbush Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:50:30am |
re: #343 3 wood
We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.
Have a good morning all.
And it's almost here, but I'll see if i can stay on a bit longer.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:51:30am |
re: #341 ratso
hey dorian, is that the homeland security hardware i've read of lately?
Na, it's DOD stealth testing technology.
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:51:59am |
re: #355 eon
Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"
My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"
No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.
The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.
Thank God I'm a Lizard.
cheers
eon
eon, you make me proud to be a part of the lizard kingdom
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galloping granny Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:54:49am |
re: #355 eon
Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"
My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"
No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.
The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.
Thank God I'm a Lizard.
cheers
eon
This is one of the things that makes me scream when it comes to those who use this same faulty reasoning to insist that "intelligent design" or Biblical beliefs can never, ever be mentioned in a classroom.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:55:22am |
re: #360 ratso
ahhhhh, are with both with the dod?
Nope, I work for a Carbon Composites fabrication Company, we do sub-contracting for DOD contractors.
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:55:39am |
re: #342 Spenser (with an S)
Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.
I'm with you. This is the first time I've been scared that Obama MIGHT win. Right now is a perfect example....Fox is on bringing up the bracelet thing, like that is going to sway anyone watching Fox. When are they going to talk half as long about the things he has DONE, like ACORN, and where are all those low income housing projects/ residents he helped? Show them! Tell us WHAT he has accomplished and who benefited from it. I know it is more complicated, but they don't even try!
now is the time to bring it up....next week may be too late. If Obama get some traction and the momemtum, McCain's over.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:57:05am |
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:57:11am |
re: #362 doriangrey
Nope, I work for a Carbon Composites fabrication Company, we do sub-contracting for DOD contractors.
carbon composites is a good read with a spectacular future.
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Spider Mensch Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:57:40am |
re: #342 Spenser (with an S)
Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.
you got to look close at those polls though. the cnn one admitted that the poll was fixed even...when the poll taken is + 40% democrats and 25% republican with 35% so called indy voters (haha of that 35% on cnn at least 75% leans left)...you'll find that the results will not be balanced. in fact when they so favor one party, the dems, in their polling obama should have even a higher gap than his 5 to 8 %.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:58:25am |
Good Morning, Lizard Nation!
Hope everyone had a good weekend.
I put myself on a self-imposed media blackout last night because seeing Barney Frank and Chris Dodd celebrating their 'bailout' was making me not only physically ill, but also so full of rage that I was throwing things.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:59:24am |
re: #355 eon
Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"
My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"
No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.
The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.
Thank God I'm a Lizard.
cheers
eon
It is at that...
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:59:36am |
re: #368 loppyd
hello loppy i wit you i can't stand dodd and frank, i normally call them by different names.
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:59:54am |
Our Money, who art invested
be there no limits to our shame ?
The meltdown come
The Congress of the dumb
knows exactly whom not to blame.
Give us this day our daily soundbite.
And deliver us from truth,
for it would frighten us.
LA LA LA LA!
Verily, we art not listening.
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:00:51am |
re: #350 legalpad
Fascinating history. It explains some. But it is still not clear how the "extreme" right in the U.S. is just too much regular right as sometimes seems implied.
Not to beat a dead horse (Down , Dobbin!, for cryin' out loud), but it's classic (and cynical) political agitprop strategy to vilify the "enemy" by convincing everyone else that they are all as dangerous as the most out-of-control, radical and violent elements who they can even remotely be compared to. Even if the comparison is in fact 100% bogus. (As the old saying goes, "If you tell a lie often enough, and loud enough, it becomes true for all practical purposes." That, BTW, is a quote from Henry Gladstone, who is rarely correctly credited for it.)
President Reagan was also compared to Hitler in his time, by the very same elements who use the "BusHitler" meme today. By comparison, when you point out to them that Che' Guevara, whom they wear on their T-shirts and post on their walls, was a bloody-handed butcher who was sold out by his own boss (Fidel) who decided to make him a martyr in Bolivia rather than risk letting him come home and pull a coup in Havana, you'd best be halfway out the door when you do so. Better yet, on the phone.
As the old Toureg proverb goes,
Tell the truth- but keep one foot in the stirrup.
cheers
eon
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:12am |
re: #368 loppyd
Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's, and watch out for what he renders onto you.
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:23am |
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:23am |
it appears no ones dingy thingy is working this morning
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:34am |
re: #371 ratso
hello loppy i wit you i can't stand dodd and frank, i normally call them by different names.
You don't want to know the names the BF was hurling at the TV last all weekend. He's a mortgage broker and has an especially sour view of Barney.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:02:39am |
re: #366 ratso
carbon composites is a good read with a spectacular future.
It's a wicked voodoo industry. Making things out of carbon composites is amazingly difficult and nobody is willing to give up their secrets on exactly how they assemble their parts.
For the most part someone entering the industry spends two to three years sweeping the floor or cutting patterns before they are ever allowed to do their first lay-up. And when they are finally allowed to do their first lay-up someone else does all the actual tricky parts. It's pretty brutal.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:02:58am |
As far as polls go - this is the one that matters:
GW/Battleground Tracking 09/22 - 09/28 1000 LV 46 48 McCain +2
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:03:24am |
re: #368 loppyd
You know, it is really amazing the number of people that are so furious over this thing..and falling over into the election. But, one thing is for sure, we need to hide small objects for safe keeping until December!
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:03:30am |
re: #367 Spider Mensch
re: #342 Spenser (with an S)
Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.
you got to look close at those polls though. the cnn one admitted that the poll was fixed even...when the poll taken is + 40% democrats and 25% republican with 35% so called indy voters (haha of that 35% on cnn at least 75% leans left)...you'll find that the results will not be balanced. in fact when they so favor one party, the dems, in their polling obama should have even a higher gap than his 5 to 8 %.
Thanks, Spider. That's what I needed. Where's Honorary Yooper? Isn't Blagoivich (sp?) being indicted today? That might help.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:03:52am |
re: #374 Peacekeeper
Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's, and watch out for what he renders onto you.
{PK}
You just made me crave a Caesar salad for lunch. LOL
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:24am |
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:51am |
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:54am |
re: #368 loppyd
Good Morning, Lizard Nation!
Hope everyone had a good weekend.
I put myself on a self-imposed media blackout last night because seeing Barney Frank and Chris Dodd celebrating their 'bailout' was making me not only physically ill, but also so full of rage that I was throwing things.
Good Morning loopyd!
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:58am |
re: #376 ratso
Mine is. I just dingied you up. You want I should dingie you down?
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Noam Chumpski Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:26am |
Waichovia has just been bought by CitiBank for $1 share.
(Apologies if this has already been announced)
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:26am |
{Lopps}
Splurge! put some grilled chicken on it.
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:49am |
re: #376 ratso
Oh, you said dingy thingy, not thingy dingy!
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:52am |
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:06:21am |
re: #380 Beach Lover
Congressman Steven Lynch (D) of MA said this morning that his office is getting bombarded with calls from ticked off constituents.
People are furious and they have every right to be.
My favorite line of the whole weekend was John Boener calling the bill a "crap sandwich" - LOL
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:07:17am |
They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:07:39am |
re: #389 Peacekeeper
{Lopps}
Splurge! put some grilled chicken on it.
Actually, I think you may have solved my "what to make for dinner" conundrum!
Thanks, pal. :)
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:08:06am |
re: #387 ratso
and very, very expensive
ROTFLMAO.... That it is.... Well off to the old salt.. er Carbon mines as it were... Now that the treasonous Democrats/socialist bastards have figured out how to increase out debt by a trillion dollars somebody has to go to work to pay it off, and you damned well know it wont be any democrat/socialist bastard...
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:08:25am |
re: #385 HoosierHoops
Hood Morning Hooooooooooosier!
What's the good word? There has to be something.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:08:51am |
re: #394 Beach Lover
They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good
cspan?
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Noam Chumpski Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:09:12am |
re: #394 Beach Lover
They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good
I was hoping that they would let the Dems all vote for it and then step up and vote No. It wold be a PR coup. And hilarious, to boot.
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:09:13am |
Hi Lizards:
Here's a linky for ya:
CBC Offers Rare Apology for Palin Smear Piece
And OY...I have so much to do today-just working half a day with major Rosh Hashana prep work to do...
To all the Jooooooooish lizards: Shana Tova U'Metukah-a happy, sweet healthy New Year to you and your families and to Kol Am Yisrael, Amen.
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:09:20am |
re: #394 Beach Lover
They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good
we will post the vote later, curious of the ones who caved to the b#@%$h pelosi.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:10:15am |
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:10:17am |
re: #400 WriterMom
Hi Lizards:
Here's a linky for ya:
CBC Offers Rare Apology for Palin Smear Piece
And OY...I have so much to do today-just working half a day with major Rosh Hashana prep work to do...
To all the Jooooooooish lizards: Shana Tova U'Metukah-a happy, sweet healthy New Year to you and your families and to Kol Am Yisrael, Amen.
hey what about us nonjewish supporters of the joooooooooooo?
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:12:21am |
re: #404 ratso
Well...you can wish me a Happy New Year, and I can wish you an Lizardish Friend-of- the-Jooooos-Vicarious Happy New Year...does that work?
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Noam Chumpski Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:18am |
Correction: It's CitiGroup buying Waichovia. Not CitiBank. Though I'm now confused if they are actually one in the same. My radio news source said Citibank, but that's just not true.
[Link: biz.yahoo.com...]
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:25am |
If only they would say.."look, we have no choice now to try to fix this mess that the liberals have made. After years of liberal ideology this is where we have gotten." But, they won't.
Great, now my bank is gone.
There goes the Wachovia golf tournament.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:27am |
re: #397 loppyd
Hood Morning Hooooooooooosier!
What's the good word? There has to be something.
{Loopyd}
Well let's see..It's going to be a beautiful day..But it still is monday...
Sucking down coffee with great gusto!
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Spider Mensch Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:59am |
re: #381 Spenser (with an S)
Thanks, Spider. That's what I needed. Where's Honorary Yooper? Isn't Blagoivich (sp?) being indicted today? That might help.
in fact, depending on the thought basis, being behind in these polls, even though they are cherry picked, can be an advantage, especially with the type of supporters obama has. "the elitist mind set of "our guy has it wrapped up, it doesn't matter if I vote or not" that can be especially true in the case of the young obama supporters, the under 25 crowd. lets face it alot of them are registered but don't even know where they are suppose to go to vote. And after obama tough talk in the debate, I'm wondering if he may be alienating his far left base? or do they see the lies in his words for what they are? lies. but lies that they would tell also? the say anything to get elected, but once in office back to business as usual? is the left that smart? maybe some of them, but not all. any group who can blame everything in the world on one person, Bush, and actually believe it, can't be too smart, imo.
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:14:11am |
How come I only see colour dingie thingies up to #394...everything above that is grey?
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:01am |
re: #409 Noam Chumpski
Good morning, link to the news story re: Citigroup and Wachovia is here: [Link: enews.earthlink.net...]
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Noam Chumpski Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:02am |
re: #414 WriterMom
How come I only see colour dingie thingies up to #394...everything above that is grey?
I thought you wrote, "...everything above that is gay?" and I laughed.
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:20am |
re: #408 WriterMom
Well...you can wish me a Happy New Year, and I can wish you an Lizardish Friend-of- the-Jooooos-Vicarious Happy New Year...does that work?
Yeah, have one of those, from me! Ciao bella!
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:29am |
re: #412 HoosierHoops
{Loopyd}
Well let's see..It's going to be a beautiful day..But it still is monday...
Sucking down coffee with great gusto!
I always start the day by giving thanks. It 'aint always easy, but it helps.
Send some sunshine this way, would ya? It's been raining forevah!
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Noam Chumpski Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:30am |
re: #415 realwest
Good morning, link to the news story re: Citigroup and Wachovia is here: [Link: enews.earthlink.net...]
Morning to you! Thanks!
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panda Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:37am |
I'm depressed....
Looks like Obama is going to win.
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:16:15am |
Blessed "Days of Awe" to my Jewish friends here. We read the Shema in church yesterday and last night my 3 boys asked their sister to sing it to them before bed. Very sweet.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:16:48am |
Well good morning all y'all - from a coolish (63 degrees going up to a very nice 82 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone in the approximately 7 hours I've been off LGF?!
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:16:50am |
re: #409 Noam Chumpski
When I get my new car loan book, I'll let you know for sure.
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:17:16am |
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:17:24am |
re: #414 WriterMom
A rolling grey out? Since I don't see the red and green spectrum, I'm at a loss, although I don't see the change you're looking at.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:17:39am |
and I'd like to wish all of our Jewish friends a Happy, Healthy and prosperous New Year!
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:17:48am |
re: #425 realwest
Good morning real.
Sent you a brief email a few minutes ago.
It's raining here, the seasons are changing.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:18:03am |
re: #425 realwest
Well good morning all y'all - from a coolish (63 degrees going up to a very nice 82 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone in the approximately 7 hours I've been off LGF?!
Good morning, real...sitting in a thunderstorm right now...thanks for the link...there goes our bank...oh well.
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Spider Mensch Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:18:16am |
re: #422 panda
I'm depressed....
Looks like Obama is going to win.
go see my 367 and 413.
just be ready to vote for McCain on Nov 4th.
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:18:25am |
re: #422 panda
Take some drugs ans sleep through it. You've plenty of time.
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:18:32am |
How about a chorus of Obamalamdingdong?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:18:40am |
re: #422 panda
It's a possibility. Don't let it bum you out too much.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:18:50am |
re: #425 realwest
Well good morning all y'all - from a coolish (63 degrees going up to a very nice 82 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone in the approximately 7 hours I've been off LGF?!
Good Morning RW!
I was wondering when you were going to get you're lazy butt up and start blogging..
/ LOL
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:18:56am |
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:19:05am |
re: #422 panda
I'm depressed....
Looks like Obama is going to win.
STOP! Take a deep breath.
Look at the battleground states. McCain is up by 2 points. With the media undeniably doing everything it can and still Obama is unable to pull ahead in those states.
If Obama does not have a clear 10 point advantage going into election day he can't and won't win.
The same doom and gloom scenarios were being played out in 04 and we all know what happened then.
I still believe that many people are lying to pollsters and I think independents, when alone in that voting booth, are going to have a very hard time voting for Obama.
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:19:39am |
re: #422 panda
'm depressed....
Looks like Obama is going to win.
See my #342 above. The lizard army is talking me off the cliff, however. The MSM can't crown him, we still get to vote!
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:19:59am |
Wait, maybe I was seeing a different vote! Was watching from another room on Fox and they were showing the voting, but now I looked at CSPAN and it is a vote on adjouring the house...so now not sure what I was looking at...anyone else watching?
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:20:07am |
re: #432 3 wood
your back 3 what happend to the weather alert of earlier?
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Spirit93 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:20:48am |
re: #425 realwest
Well, we've got a depressed panda on aisle #422.
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Pullus Iulius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:20:56am |
re: #425 realwest
Good morning, Realwest! A beautiful morning here. First real sun I've seen in days. A far nicer morning than the congressrats down the street deserve, if you ask me.
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:20:59am |
The annoying thing with the bail out is, that no matter HOW BAD the economy gets, Bush and Congress can claim it would have been TEN TIMES worse without their leadership.
We'll never know if they were bluffing.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:21:50am |
re: #432 3 wood
Good morning my friend - I received and responded to your e-mail already!
Ya know for an Older Guy I can still motor some! LOL!
How are ya today my good friend?
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:22:15am |
re: #448 Spirit93
Well, we've got a depressed panda on aisle #422.
Of all the bamboo places in all the world..
Panda had to walk in here..
Go ahead..play it again Sam...
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:22:31am |
re: #434 scottishbuzzsaw
Good morning to you too - whacha mean "our bank"?!
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:23:09am |
re: #422 panda
It's way too early to throw in the towel. And even if Obama (G-d forbid) does win, you survived Carter-America is so resilient, and you might have to suffer through four years of bumbling leftist garbage...but the only good thing is that he is SO stupid and SO ignorant and empty, the American people-even the ones who voted for him, will soon start to see that he was the worst choice for a leader.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:23:13am |
re: #444 Spenser (with an S)
See my #342 above. The lizard army is talking me off the cliff, however. The MSM can't crown him, we still get to vote!
Remember how stunned they were the morning after the election in 04?
They couldn't believe that after everything they did - after all of their hard work and bashing of Bush - that he not only one, but won the popular vote by 3,480,122 votes.
They were stunned. I still believe they will get the shock of their lives this year.
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:23:19am |
re: #422 panda
I'm depressed....
Looks like Obama is going to win.
Try not to see everything in black and white....
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:23:30am |
Good morning real! How are you doing today? I had a nice relaxing, if rainy, weekend.
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:23:41am |
re: #361 galloping granny
This is one of the things that makes me scream when it comes to those who use this same faulty reasoning to insist that "intelligent design" or Biblical beliefs can never, ever be mentioned in a classroom.
I took a class called "The Bible as Literature" in high school. It consisted of comparing the Holy Scriptures (especially the OT) to other historical sources to learn which, if any, were actually accurate.
We now know that a great deal of the OT is probably at least as accurate as a source of historical data on events in the MidEast prior to the birth of Christ as any other sources, going back to the ancient Sumerians.
/Certainly at least as accurate as Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, never mind Schliemann - I'm tending toward the Iman Wilkins hypothesis myself, these days
As for "intelligent design", it was pretty well refuted in the early 19th Century (pre-Darwin) when it was first raised by a Cambridge philosophy professor named William Buckland, who was trying to reconcile the existence of fossils with the book of Genesis. It was discarded soon after by even the Church of England due to the work of such scientists as James Hutton, George Scrope (both geologists) and Charles Lyall ( a botanist). The debate was pretty much over by 1830- a year before Darwin set sail on HMS Beagle.
I agree, it should be discussed- for exactly the same reason that to learn the Three Laws of Thermodynamics, it helps to explain the now-discredited phlogiston theory, and to understand Einstein's General and Special Theories of Relativity, it helps to understand the previously-standard "ether" theory, and how it was disproven by the Michelson-Morley optical interferometer experiment in 1887.
To learn how we got where we are, it helps to know where we've been- and how we concluded that we didn't know the whole story.
cheers
eon
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:24:23am |
re: #439 Killgore Trout
Hey Killgore - how are you doing - still on that Island off the coast of Africa?
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:24:44am |
re: #454 realwest
Good morning to you too - whacha mean "our bank"?!
'Our' as in where my family's money is kept...Wachovia. Better a private take over, though, than a government solution...
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:24:48am |
sorry..the vote was on minor crap. they are still fighting about the small stuff, as usual.
fly poop in pepper
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:24:51am |
Just exactly who is the old fogey?
Paradoxically, Obama is in some ways more a victim of age than McCain, although of a different sort. Obama is an advocate of ideas that have aged to the point of dementia. He’s an old-fashioned radical, and the leftist ideas that inspire him are no longer relevant to our world. As Hegel used to say, the world changes, and the ideas that once described reality, and could be used to effectively change it when necessary, no longer apply to the changed world. Obama’s political ideas have aged, which is why they have no policy saliency. They’re just words, fossilized remnants of a civilization that no longer exists.
Ledeen nails it.
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:25:35am |
re: #456 WriterMom
AND Loppy
2004 featured a concerted effort to psyche out voters that almost succeeded in suppressing the Bush vote. Some early cooked exit polls in Ohioh IIRC. Since it worked we shuld expect that they would refine it this time around.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:25:54am |
re: #440 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops - hey, I don't recall you're being out here all that late last night/early this morning!
You young pups gotta learn to run with the older dogs to try to keep up! LOL!
How are you doing?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:26:08am |
Oh and to all the Mets fans - I am so sorry.
I can't imagine what sports radio is like down there this morning.
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Oldasdirt Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:26:40am |
Still curious to see how the (truth squad) brown shirts,is going to work out.Any news covering this little fiasco.
I still have 2 and 1/2 hours till Rush comes on.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:26:52am |
re: #461 realwest
Yup, I have a little less than a week of vacation left.
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:27:14am |
New Historic Low for Kos?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:27:27am |
re: #465 Peacekeeper
AND Loppy
2004 featured a concerted effort to psyche out voters that almost succeeded in suppressing the Bush vote. Some early cooked exit polls in Ohioh IIRC. Since it worked we shuld expect that they would refine it this time around.
Yep. When I got to HQ in NH I was expecting doom and gloom. They were all upbeat after getting their internal numbers for Lord Rove.
We knew NH was probably lost, but the battleground states were trending Bush.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:27:42am |
re: #466 realwest
Hi ya Hoops - hey, I don't recall you're being out here all that late last night/early this morning!
You young pups gotta learn to run with the older dogs to try to keep up! LOL!
How are you doing?
I'm doing great Real..It's going to be a beautiful day...I'm looking forward to it..
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:27:44am |
re: #443 {loppyd}
Hey goodlooking! I was SO pleased to hear your father-in-law was out of IU the other day - how's he doing now?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:28:02am |
re: #468 Oldasdirt
Still curious to see how the (truth squad) brown shirts,is going to work out.Any news covering this little fiasco.
I still have 2 and 1/2 hours till Rush comes on.
He is like valium for me in times like this. :~)
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:28:22am |
it helps to explain the now-discredited phlogiston theory,
Not the Phlogiston Theory! You want to start a flame war?
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:28:23am |
re: #451 realwest
How are ya today my good friend?
Doing pretty good. Getting ready for the interview later this morning, then going to teach a class.
Also, interested in seeing how far the market dumps out today. I think it will drop a couple hundred, just wondering if it keeps going or if it rallies back at all.
The overseas markets dumped about 2 to 3%.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:28:29am |
re: #473 realwest
GAH - Step-Father, not father in law! My apologies
{loppyd}!
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:28:34am |
good lord, Barney Frank speaks and it is just saddening. Picture Thomas Jefferson and Lincoln...how far we have "evolved"
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:29:08am |
re: #473 realwest
Hey goodlooking! I was SO pleased to hear your father-in-law was out of IU the other day - how's he doing now?
{realwest}
Good Morning Handsome!
Thank you so much. He is doing much better. They are hoping to get him home by Wed or Thu.
My mom said his spirits are way up now that he doesn't have to have surgery.
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right_on_target Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:30:05am |
Has anyone seen the crap that is on the msnbc.com site that explains "Timeline: How we got in this mess"? See the Mess
The flash graphics is a pretty time line; but it begins in March, 2007! The blame is put on the Federal Reserve and Alan Greenspan as the evil "Perfect Storm" brewers.
The MSM is pure propaganda!
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Pullus Iulius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:30:31am |
re: #475 Peacekeeper
I sold all my AIG shares and bought phlogiston futures. Are you trying to tell me something here?
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:31:18am |
re: #479 loppyd
OY, loppy I didn't know...{loppy's step-father}, glad to hear he's on the mend.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:31:28am |
re: #448 Spirit93
Well hell, let the Panda join the club!
Sheesh - I am beginning to believe Obama will win because of this bailout - AND I KNOW IT'S NOT THE REPUBLICAN'S FAULT - though they do bear part of the burden of blame, but someone(s) was asleep at the switch during Dubya's last four years and the MSM is too STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THE CAUSES OF THIS FINANCIAL MESS - or don't want to report them!
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:31:41am |
Markets are open and here we go....
By the way, I am stunned that the Bears beat the Eagles last night. By the end of the game the Bears conerbacks were all hurt and they were playing safties and receivers at corner.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:32:41am |
re: #480 right_on_target
Has anyone seen the crap that is on the msnbc.com site that explains "Timeline: How we got in this mess"? See the Mess
The flash graphics is a pretty time line; but it begins in March, 2007! The blame is put on the Federal Reserve and Alan Greenspan as the evil "Perfect Storm" brewers.
The MSM is pure propaganda!
I'm surprised they laid any blame at the feet of Andrea Mitchell's husband.
Just because it's Monday and just because I can't stand her.....
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:32:44am |
re: #482 Pullus Iulius
I sold all my AIG shares and bought phlogiston futures. Are you trying to tell me something here?
"Phlogisticated" substances are those that contain phlogiston and are "dephlogisticated" when burned; "in general, substances that burned in air were said to be rich in phlogiston; the fact that combustion soon ceased in an enclosed space was taken as clear-cut evidence that air had the capacity to absorb only a definite amount of phlogiston. When air had become completely phlogisticated it would no longer serve to support combustion of any material, nor would a metal heated in it yield a calx; nor could phlogisticated air support life, for the role of air in respiration was to remove the phlogiston from the body."[
I think the market is overly phlogiscated, don't you?
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:33:48am |
re: #480 right_on_target
WEll, of course! They can't go back to when it really started or it will show who is really responsible! How can you watch that crap and still have TV to watch, let alone your health?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:34:12am |
re: #483 WriterMom
OY, loppy I didn't know...{loppy's step-father}, glad to hear he's on the mend.
Thanks {WriterMom}....
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:34:27am |
Phlogiston-flame war? It was a great pun! You people ...
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:34:32am |
DOW now 132 down. I figure it goes down at least 300 points today.
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soccerdad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:34:50am |
Just in case anyone was unsure whether there was a 'problem' in the UK with 6th century barbaric practices...this article should dispel any 'rumours' (Brit pun intended). The bloodthirsty prophet's example is being followed to a "T"
The disclosure comes as official figures show that nearly 60 children aged 15 or under have been rescued by the Government's Forced Marriage Unit in the past four years.
The cases are feared to be the tip of the iceberg. They will fuel concerns, first raised earlier this year, that large numbers of children are disappearing from British schools to be forced into wedlock overseas.
9 year old rescued from forced marriage
Hmmm....who else do we know was nine years old when she was forced to marry?
And is it not chilling that the UK even HAS an entity called 'the forced marriage unit?"
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:35:03am |
re: #459 Kenneth
Hello my friend - I'm doing ok, I guess - suffering from spending too much time grinding my teeth yesterday and last night, but otherwise just fine!
Glad to hear you had a nice, relaxing weekend!
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:35:11am |
re: #480 right_on_target
How we got into this mess? Well that's obvious...once upon a time, Mr. George Bush met Mrs. Bush decided to have babies...and then the EVIL GEORGE W. BUSH was BORN-SPAWN OF SATAN...When George was born, three oracles bearing gifts came...One, the Prophet Karl Rove brought him the gift of Evil Mind Control Powers. Then Abraham the Patriarch came bearing the Contract of Indebtedness to the Evil Jews, and the last visitor came bearing the Secret Hurricaine and Weather Control wand, making sure that little George would be able to manipulate the clouds and the winds and kill many poor people in the process.
And then he grew up, STOLE THE ELECTION and made the economy melt down.
But not before coming up with a plan for the controlled demolition of the WTC-making sure the Jews got out first-and keeping the plan from the American people!
That's why we are in this mess!
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:36:01am |
what about that goal line stand? re: #485 3 wood
Markets are open and here we go....
By the way, I am stunned that the Bears beat the Eagles last night. By the end of the game the Bears conerbacks were all hurt and they were playing safties and receivers at corner.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:36:08am |
So I gave my mom a little history lesson on ACORN yesterday. I waited until she was thoroughly horrified and disgusted to go in for the kill and tell her about Obama's connection.
She is wavering....I can feel it.
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Spirit93 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:36:30am |
re: #484 realwest
Well hell, let the Panda join the club!
Sheesh - I am beginning to believe Obama will win because of this bailout - AND I KNOW IT'S NOT THE REPUBLICAN'S FAULT - though they do bear part of the burden of blame, but someone(s) was asleep at the switch during Dubya's last four years and the MSM is too STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THE CAUSES OF THIS FINANCIAL MESS - or don't want to report them!
Not me, man.
I put my faith in the wisdom of the American People.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:36:34am |
re: #462 scottishbuzzsaw
Ah, rats! I thought you meant our as in you live somewhere in the Charlotte NC region! (Headquarters for Wachovia). Doesn't the FDIC protect that money?
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kcladderman Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:37:04am |
re: #496 WriterMom
How we got into this mess? Well that's obvious...once upon a time, Mr. George Bush met Mrs. Bush decided to have babies...and then the EVIL GEORGE W. BUSH was BORN-SPAWN OF SATAN...When George was born, three oracles bearing gifts came...One, the Prophet Karl Rove brought him the gift of Evil Mind Control Powers. Then Abraham the Patriarch came bearing the Contract of Indebtedness to the Evil Jews, and the last visitor came bearing the Secret Hurricaine and Weather Control wand, making sure that little George would be able to manipulate the clouds and the winds and kill many poor people in the process.
And then he grew up, STOLE THE ELECTION and made the economy melt down.
But not before coming up with a plan for the controlled demolition of the WTC-making sure the Jews got out first-and keeping the plan from the American people!
That's why we are in this mess!
If only Shehag was able to go back in time and kill baby Bush just think how better the world would be today.
/
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:37:10am |
re: #493 3 wood
DOW now 132 down. I figure it goes down at least 300 points today.
But.....but.....I thought this bailout "crap sandwich" was supposed to calm the markets.
What gives, 3 wood? Talk to me.
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:37:31am |
re: #475 Peacekeeper
it helps to explain the now-discredited phlogiston theory,
Not the Phlogiston Theory! You want to start a flame war?
Hey, if I wanted to do that, I've have invoked the My Little Pony Theory of how rainbows are formed.
/besides, I've already flaunted Godwin's Law several times this morning, so I'm feeling a bit like Harry Palmer right now
cheers
eon
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:38:25am |
re: #496 WriterMom
Did you write script for the new Oliver Stone movie?
;-)
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:38:25am |
re: #467 loppyd
Sports radio down here today is all full of joy at the Cowboys loss - helps out the World Champion New York Giants!
/ducks and runs for more coffee!
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CapeCoddah Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:39:02am |
Good morning everyone, Don't know if this has been posted yet, but, Obama's campaign is now threatening media who run NRA ads showing Obama's record on gun control. They are sending letters to stations who run the ads threatening FCC licenses.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:40:05am |
re: #505 realwest
Sports radio down here today is all full of joy at the Cowboys loss - helps out the World Champion New York Giants!
/ducks and runs for more coffee!
No need to duck.
I have faith the Eli will never be able to pull off anything like that SB win again.
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:40:14am |
re: #493 3 wood
DOW now 132 down. I figure it goes down at least 300 points today.
There is no magic bullet.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:40:28am |
re: #500 realwest
Ah, rats! I thought you meant our as in you live somewhere in the Charlotte NC region! (Headquarters for Wachovia). Doesn't the FDIC protect that money?
Oh, sorry...living in MO right now, between the mighty Mississippi and Missouri rivers...damp livin'...and yes, the FDIC protects...at least, I think it still does! ;>)
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Typicalwhitey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:40:51am |
re: #489 realwest
Hey Real!
The Missouri story is front paged on the Drudge Report!
One of them:
Snip:
"Whether it is directly attributable to the campaign or one of the soft money operations," McCulloch told me, "if they're not going to tell the truth, then somebody's got to step up and say 'wait a minute, that's not true, this is the truth.'"
For reasons that are still not fully clear, prosecutors promising to tell the public the truth have sparked outrage among supporters of John McCain. Said John Mills.
Oh they are clear all right, much as Mills wants to pretend they aren't!
It's the POWER those people hold that makes this abusive not what they say.
snip:
More than 90,000 people from across the country watched my report on KMOV.com. Click here to watch the reportWhen I returned to the office on Saturday, I spoke with callers from New York to Florida who had heard about Obama's truth squad and were outraged about it.
One caller said he was angry, because people were going to be "prosecuted" and "indicted" for stating their political views.
Another caller said Obama was planning to send police to the homes of elderly women because of their political statements.
A third caller said he wanted information about Obama's "storm troopers."
It's all here
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:41:01am |
re: #485 3 wood
Markets are open and here we go....
By the way, I am stunned that the Bears beat the Eagles last night.
By the end of the game the Bears conerbacks were all hurt and they were
playing safties and receivers at corner.
You are forgetting that the Bears were up against Andy Reid's patented last minute play-calling skills.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:41:05am |
Funny (but not) as hell.
Watching "America's Newsroom on Fox.
This segment was sponsored by "Wachovia". Then ran a Wachovia commercial. Huh. Who's gonna pay for that? Or, is it pre-paid.
Don't know how this works.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:42:53am |
re: #476 3 wood
Arggh! I forgot it was today (the interview!) - I thought it was Tuesday, no?! In any event the best of luck to you!
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Pullus Iulius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:42:58am |
re: #487 Peacekeeper
I think the market is overly phlogiscated, don't you?
I agree. I'm pulling everything out. There's this Lysenko guy who says he can grow oranges in Siberia. That's where my money's going.
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:43:13am |
re: #498 loppyd
thanks, loppyd, for doing a small part of what needs to be done everywhere. My daughter is starting to get informed as well, and is now sending me articles about Obama. She is sending them to her friends (30 somethings that are not politically informed but would probably vote for Obama cause it's "cool")
Warms the cackles of my heart :-)
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:43:31am |
re: #446 ratso
your back 3 what happend to the weather alert of earlier?
It's raining but the lightening passed.
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Peacekeeper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:44:01am |
You thought the Bears were tough on the Eagles last night? Wait till you see what they do to the Bulls today...
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:44:44am |
re: #510 Typicalwhitey
Hey Real!
The Missouri story is front paged on the Drudge Report!
One of them:
Snip:
A third caller said he wanted information about Obama's "storm troopers."
It's all here
Thank you for all you've done on this issue...great job.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:44:44am |
re: #506 CapeCoddah
Good morning everyone, Don't know if this has been posted yet, but, Obama's campaign is now threatening media who run NRA ads showing Obama's record on gun control. They are sending letters to stations who run the ads threatening FCC licenses.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
Heh. Every blue moon or so, the NRA wakes up and takes a bite.
Sounds like they connected.
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:44:57am |
re: #506 CapeCoddah
Good morning everyone, Don't know if this has been posted yet, but, Obama's campaign is now threatening media who run NRA ads showing Obama's record on gun control. They are sending letters to stations who run the ads threatening FCC licenses.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
Once more, police-state tactics from the Obamessiah and his minions, who are adamant that no one find out what he really has in mind until after he's taken the Oath of Office- probably with his fingers crossed behind his back, like Bill Clinton.
If he's willing to pull stunts like this now, just imagine what he'll be like when he's in the Oval Office and has his "big as the military/as well-funded as the miltary" National Volunteer Corps Sturmabteilung to play with?
cheers
eon
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:45:00am |
My bank has always appeared (to me) to be really conservative. Walking into the lobby is like going back in time.
Got my mortgage through them, still pay my mortgage to them. Hope my trust is well placed.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:46:23am |
Charlie Gibson would call this hubris:
US elections: Barack Obama's team believes he can win by a landslide
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:46:23am |
re: #492 Peacekeeper
Well it probably woulda gone over better if it wasn't so hard to "pronounce" - we people my ass!
LOL!
How are you PK?!
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eon Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:47:04am |
Well, I just got a call from the people I'm helping move for carpeting. Packing-up help needed. Gotta run.
Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
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CapeCoddah Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:47:10am |
re: #520 ploome hineni
LOL, I'm thinking the moonbats will be sobbing into their morning granola on the day after the election. Those who's heads fail to explode, that is
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:47:44am |
re: #502 loppyd
But.....but.....I thought this bailout "crap sandwich" was supposed to calm the markets.
What gives, 3 wood? Talk to me.
There's been so much damage done with all the delay and dithering and screwing around, there is a general panic going on now.
Plus they still have the mark to market problem, te uptick rule still has not been reinstated, and they need to raise the FDIC insurance to at least $1 million.
The LIBOR spread is still increasing, so banks are still not lending to one another. I think you are going to see small banks folding now.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:47:59am |
re: #498 loppyd
"She is wavering....I can feel it." YEA {loppyd} push, push and then push the truth some more!
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:48:00am |
re: #529 eon
Well, I just got a call from the people I'm helping move for carpeting. Packing-up help needed. Gotta run.
Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
Have a good one, eon...
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:48:57am |
re: #505 realwest
Sports radio down here today is all full of joy at the Cowboys loss - helps out the World Champion New York Giants!
/ducks and runs for more coffee!
How 'bout them Yankees!
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:49:22am |
Democrats on Hill Worried About Biden at Debate
But as the two vice presidential nominees prepare for their one debate this Thursday, there are a number of Democrats who, off the record, say they're worried that despite his far greater breadth of knowledge, Biden could whiff it.He can be verbose and has a propensity for gaffes, they say. The son-of-Scranton candor they usually find charming can sometimes seem reckless or insensitive.
That Biden will be debating the first Republican woman vice presidential nominee makes his challenge all the greater.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:49:54am |
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:50:07am |
re: #511 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You are forgetting that the Bears were up against Andy Reid's patented last minute play-calling skills.
Plus McNabb, while being very talented, is one of the worst QB's I have ever seen at reading a defense.
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:50:11am |
re: #527 loppyd
Charlie GibsonThe MSMwouldcall thishubrispredestined:
US elections: Barack Obama's team believes he can win by a landslide
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OldLineTexan Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:50:25am |
re: #536 loppyd
Are they worried he will be stripped like a moose?
- Alcee Hastings, big game expert
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Beach Lover Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:50:46am |
whoever this guy is on CSPAN ,Adam Putnam from FL, just misstated that "the largest bank in the US, last week failed" WAMU was not the largest bank in the US, but the largest bank to fail. there is a difference!
/gack...I have to shut of CSPAN now
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NC State of Mind Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:50:55am |
re: #527 loppyd
Charlie Gibson would call this hubris:
US elections: Barack Obama's team believes he can win by a landslide
You can definitely see this belief slipping through in his statements. He is getting more and more confident by the day. Like in the debate when he proclaimed that as president, he could meet with whomever he wanted whenever he wanted, wherever he wanted. All that arrogance is going to make Nov 4th that much worse if current trends hold.
Remember all those MSM's screaming about Bush not having a mandate in '00 and some in '04? If Obama wins by any margin they'll proclaim he was given enough mandate to rewrite the constitution.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:51:03am |
re: #507 loppyd
Ya know, loppyd, I never figured you for being such a sore looser. Biggest game of his career (following three ROAD play-off games of his career) and all he does is lead the Giants to a victory over what was clearly a superior team and STILL you diss ole Eli?!
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:51:20am |
re: #531 3 wood
There's been so much damage done with all the delay and dithering and screwing around, there is a general panic going on now.
Plus they still have the mark to market problem, te uptick rule still has not been reinstated, and they need to raise the FDIC insurance to at least $1 million.
The LIBOR spread is still increasing, so banks are still not lending to one another. I think you are going to see small banks folding now.
Thanks, 3 wood.
LIBOR is a dirty word in my house these days.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:51:28am |
re: #536 loppyd
Have the Chicago Mob pre-plant his feet in a #3 tub of cement.
That way he can't get 'em in his mouth.
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Spider Mensch Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:51:41am |
re: #520 ploome hineni
heh..I see the hubris is not only in obama. it runs in the whole campaign, heck it practically gallops! their hubris will be their downfall.
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:53:11am |
re: #443 loppyd
I'm gonna chime in here. I picked the following up on another blog, from a poster that wanted to remain anonymous, so he/she shall:
But if your guy can't win the election with
-no negative record
-a deeply unpopular President
-a mainstream media 200% in the tank for him and unwilling to report on anything remotely negative about him.
-99% of the African American vote
-a current deep financial crisis that he and Congress can blame on Bush
-no active security issue on the table
-Hillary Clinton essentially out of the picture
- a Democratic majority in Congress
-Oprahthen he absolutely, 100% sucks. The situation could not possibly be more in his favor unless pictures of McCain fondling prepubescent boys were found.
The obamessiah is going down, but in order for that to happen we have to vote.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:53:21am |
re: #543 realwest
Ya know, loppyd, I never figured you for being such a sore looser. Biggest game of his career (following three ROAD play-off games of his career) and all he does is lead the Giants to a victory over what was clearly a superior team and STILL you diss ole Eli?!
I don't take anything away from him - he turned in an epic performance. I still say it was a fluke. Not that the Patriots lost - not at all. But that he performed in the way of fairy tales. I would bet my next car payment that his brother will get another ring before him.
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:53:30am |
Good morning LGF.
Welcome to the mild, calm beginning of the shallow, brief recession./
BTW, does anyone know how to email a recipe without disclosing one's own email addy? (No offence, but it's private.)
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:53:49am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:53:57am |
re: #538 3 wood
Plus McNabb, while being very talented, is one of the worst QB's I have ever seen at reading a defense.
Racist!
/
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:54:11am |
re: #547 ploome hineni
I just hope Gov Palin doesn;t use the same phrases she has been using in almost every interview and speech she give
she is hugely capable, but very artless
They need to let her be the woman that America fell in love with earlier this month.
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Pullus Iulius Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:54:49am |
re: #527 loppyd
Losers always think they're winners. Right before they lose. This is far from over.
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JacksonTn Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:55:34am |
Obama's team filed a Motion to Dismiss in the Phillip Berg lawsuit which cites the issues Galloping Granny is discussing. I am not sure what the status of that motion is right now. Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, a few of the issues in the lawsuit:
In the filing Berg says:
There have been numerous questions raised about Obama’s background with no satisfactory answers. The questions that I have addressed include, but are not limited to:
1. Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada; or ?
2. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?
3. What was the early childhood of Obama in Hawaii; in Kenya; in Indonesia when he was adopted; and later, back to Hawaii?
4. An explanation as to the various names utilized by Obama that include: Barack Hussein Obama; Barry Soetoro; Barry Obama; Barack Dunham; and Barry Dunham.
5. Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.
If Obama can prove U.S. citizenship, we still have the issue of muti-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegance to other countries.
Berg goes on to make very direct accusations against Obama, stating that he "lied and cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process."
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:55:54am |
re: #520 ploome hineni
Barack Obama's senior aides believe he is on course for a landslide election victory over John McCain and will comfortably exceed most current predictions in the race for the White House.
Well, pride comes before the fall. But when 0bama loses, with these kind of statements, we'll have riots; the arguments that Bush "stole" the election will look like polite disagreements compared.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:56:05am |
re: #549 loppyd
I don't take anything away from him - he turned in an epic performance. I still say it was a fluke. Not that the Patriots lost - not at all. But that he performed in the way of fairy tales. I would bet my next car payment that his brother will get another ring before him.
Hopefully you drive a new BMW..I'd take that action..Who gets the Vig? Realwest?
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:56:07am |
re: #550 sparrowlake
Good morning LGF.
Welcome to the mild, calm beginning of the shallow, brief recession./
BTW, does anyone know how to email a recipe without disclosing one's own email addy? (No offence, but it's private.)
yes, have someone else mail it? :)
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:56:10am |
re: #554 Pullus Iulius
Losers always think they're winners. Right before they lose. This is far from over.
I agree and I will stick to my 10 point theory.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:56:22am |
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joan Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:56:41am |
[Link: www.thecuttingedgenews.com...]
Interfaith Rally Protests Religious Reception Honoring Ahmadinejad
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:56:50am |
re: #557 HoosierHoops
Hopefully you drive a new BMW..I'd take that action..Who gets the Vig? Realwest?
LOL - 2001 Subaru Outback.
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soccerdad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:58:07am |
re: #538 3 wood
Plus McNabb, while being very talented, is one of the worst QB's I have ever seen at reading a defense.
Give the guy a break. It was NOT McNabb's fault. Friggin Andy Reid calls four plays into the line from inside the 5? how about a little naked boot with one of the best running QBs in the game?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:58:34am |
re: #542 NC State of Mind
You can definitely see this belief slipping through in his statements. He is getting more and more confident by the day. Like in the debate when he proclaimed that as president, he could meet with whomever he wanted whenever he wanted, wherever he wanted. All that arrogance is going to make Nov 4th that much worse if current trends hold.
Remember all those MSM's screaming about Bush not having a mandate in '00 and some in '04? If Obama wins by any margin they'll proclaim he was given enough mandate to rewrite the constitution.
Rewrite the constitution? He'll just ignore it. He'll appoint judges who say international law and the precedents of other countries are more important.
And don't we have a justice who thinks that already?
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:58:49am |
DOW is 235 down and still plummeting.
Folks, you are seeing a genuine market melt down happening before your eyes.
This is going to take a long time to recover from.
I just found out that one of my neighbors handed in the keys to their house and walked away a couple weeks ago, could not afford the mortgage. I thought they were on vacation.
I see coming:
1. Deflation
2. Unemployemnt of at least 10% (unemployment benefits need to be extended now to ease the blow). Companies will also be slashing costs/salaries via any means they can.
3. Dropping demand for oil world wide. We may not need to build new refineries after all.
4. Many smaller banks closing.
5. It will be almost impossible to get a loan for quite a while.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:59:25am |
So I have to call a state office in Wisconsin today. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that they are more friendly and helpful than the MA hacks I am used to dealing with.
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:59:48am |
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Alouette Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:00:14am |
Good morning Lizards! Happy Erev Rosh Hashanah! (New Year's Eve).
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:00:59am |
re: #569 Alouette
Thanks for the reminder. Happy New Year my Jewish Lizard Friends!
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:01:07am |
re: #510 Typicalwhitey
Hey Typicalwhitey - you go girl! Mr. Mills probably hadda change his underwear three times yesterday!
But the Drudge report shows the problems we face; we don't have access to any TV stations or networks.
Woud love to sit down with Mr. Mills and tell him that - right out of the gate - it's UNETHICAL for any public official to "politic" on government time and one of these two idiots who said it ON TV VIDEO is already wrong - Under a President Obama anyone making more than $45,000 is going to pay higher taxes because Obama has stated that he's gonna let the Bush Tax Cuts expire! Some "truth squad".
But I am indeed VERY PROUD OF YOU for your valiant efforts on this and - this being a Monday I can only hope that today people will be in their offices see your wonderful letters and get cracking on this!
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:02:01am |
re: #564 soccerdad
Give the guy a break. It was NOT McNabb's fault. Friggin Andy Reid calls four plays into the line from inside the 5? how about a little naked boot with one of the best running QBs in the game?
That's just it, McNabb can audible. The Bears clearly were stacking the line (by the way Reid does tip off pas vs. run on how he has the RB line up, it is so obvious my labrador retriever was reading pass vs. run last night). The fact that McNabb did not audible tells me a lot.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:02:05am |
re: #545 OldLineTexan
Have the Chicago Mob pre-plant his feet in a #3 tub of cement.
That way he can't get 'em in his mouth.
He's got a really big mouth. #3 tub big enough?
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:02:38am |
re: #570 loppyd
I love you, but I hope you're wrong....
I have never so much wanted to be wrong in my life.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:02:56am |
re: #568 sparrowlake
oh well...never mind.
Good Morning Sparrow.. The next time reine is on-line just post it here at LGF and she can copy and paste it..
What kind of Recipe? I don't think anybody has submitted a recipe for moonshine yet... or homemade beer..
:)
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:04:00am |
re: #569 Alouette
Blessed "Days of Awe" to you, Alouette!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:05:18am |
re: #577 ploome hineni
I'm wearing vertical stripes today. It's an optical illusion. Makes me look taller too.
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legalpad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:05:42am |
re: #496 WriterMom
That's probably verbatim from MSNBC, who I have the sense never to read/watch.
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ratso Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:05:42am |
well g'day lizards, i am smarter and wiser from this morings session, thank you.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:06:08am |
re: #535 3 wood
GRRRRR! Well hell, ya can't win 'em all 3 wood. Still have more world championships than any other professional sports franchise history WAAAY more!
I think the Massachusetts Celtics are in second place, all time!
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:06:13am |
re: #580 ploome hineni
go to search, upper right of this page, enter reine's name
her posts will be listed
her nic is blue.....send her the recipe..
easier for her
:D
I agree Ploome..But sparrow doesn't want to reveal her email address.
{ploome} Good Morning!
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:06:24am |
re: #583 ratso
well g'day lizards, i am smarter and wiser from this morings session, thank you.
See you later, cuz...take care.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:07:14am |
Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:07:43am |
re: #585 HoosierHoops
I agree Ploome..But sparrow doesn't want to reveal her email address.
{ploome} Good Morning!
Just go to yahoo. open a new screen name. email the dang thang. then don't use the screen name again. Problem solved.
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Noam Chumpski Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:07:46am |
re: #566 3 wood
DOW is 235 down and still plummeting.
Folks, you are seeing a genuine market melt down happening before your eyes.
This is going to take a long time to recover from.
I just found out that one of my neighbors handed in the keys to their house and walked away a couple weeks ago, could not afford the mortgage. I thought they were on vacation.
I see coming:
1. Deflation
2. Unemployemnt of at least 10% (unemployment benefits need to be extended now to ease the blow). Companies will also be slashing costs/salaries via any means they can.
3. Dropping demand for oil world wide. We may not need to build new refineries after all.
4. Many smaller banks closing.
5. It will be almost impossible to get a loan for quite a while.
What are you talking about? Obama's going to talk this out and tax the greedy corporations. We're going to juuust fine.
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FrogMarch Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:07:48am |
The Democrats would be toast if the media were not covering their collective corrupt asses.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:08:02am |
re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me...
Happy Birthday...and many more...;>)
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:08:31am |
re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me...
Happy Birthday! I'd offer you a drink but i heard you weren't 21 yet..
/
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:08:48am |
Obama once again dazzling the crowd with his vision poor grammar.
"I know some of you got a little damp," Obama told the audience gathered in the school quad. "I’d like to cover everybody’s dry cleaning bill here tonight, but I can’t because I got to use it on the campaign, so consider it one more modest contribution to our efforts to change the country."
Nobody will ever dare to criticize his grammar or speech. But he drops his "G" s constantly is also fond of saying "I got to" and "we got to."
But keep on making fun of Sarah Palin, because it's cool.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:08:59am |
re: #541 Beach Lover
Hey {Beach Lover} - what in the hell are you doing listening to CSPAN anyway?! Give up coffee to wake you up?! LOL!
Hey, how's the gasoline situation by where you live?
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:09:07am |
Expect gold to jump and yields on bonds to drop as money flees the stock market and runs to safety.
Oil has dropped a bit this morning too.
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NC State of Mind Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:10:10am |
re: #591 FrogMarch
The Democrats would be toast if the media were not covering their collective corrupt asses.
Hell, Bill Clinton has been more objective in his recent comments than most "journalists."
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Typicalwhitey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:10:12am |
re: #572 realwest
Thanks!
I will let you know if I get any replies today.
Did you get my email yesterday?
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Onamesa Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:10:16am |
Good morning all,
Have you seen this PAC video about Sen. Obama?
I noticed he was campaigning yesterday and he seems to have dusted off his phony southern accent. For some reason that really annoys me.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:10:32am |
DOW down 293 and still going. We will hit my prediction before the market has been open for 2 hours.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:10:50am |
re: #594 HoosierHoops
Happy Birthday! I'd offer you a drink but i heard you weren't 21 yet..
/
Thank you. You can just send some money to my Paypal account by clicking on my nic & I'll get my own beer (I have a fake ID).
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:11:31am |
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:12:51am |
re: #549 loppyd
Uh, how much is your car payment? LOL! Well hell, I guess you're right - on a team noted for it's D (just ask my second favorite head coach, Bill Bellichek) where that D lost one all pro and has a second team all pro both injured, one out for the year, ole Eli has somehow stumbled the Giants to a 4-0 record so far.
What's Peyton's team doing this year so far?!
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:12:53am |
re: #596 ploome hineni
see?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
What I think I meant ( in Obama speak) was that sparrowlake didn't want to reveal her own personal email..
I think that's what I um um err..sortof umm ahhh meant..
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:13:00am |
And the Dems are using this to the max for political gains. You want an Oct. Surprise, well, you got it early, in Sept.
If this was such a good idea then why is the stock market tanking this morning? Why are we not hearing barely anything from the Republicans and McCain? How come the auto makers bailout is a no news item? Did we tell the car makers that they can't use the money to open plants in Mexico? Of course not.
Screwed
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:13:21am |
Bingo, we are a t 308 and still dropping.
Only question now is how far will it drop.
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:13:56am |
re: #585 HoosierHoops
I agree Ploome..But sparrow doesn't want to reveal
herhis email address.
FIXED. And thanks.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:14:37am |
re: #538 3 wood
What on earth are you talking about? Gee whiz, so McNabb reads defenses using braille - I mean, uh, oh, I see whatcha mean! LOL!
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:15:05am |
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:15:48am |
re: #381 Spenser (with an S)
Thanks, Spider. That's what I needed. Where's Honorary Yooper? Isn't Blagoivich (sp?) being indicted today? That might help.
No idea if Blagojevich will be indicted soon or not. Unfortuantely, all we know is that Rezko seems to be singing like a canary to the Feds.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:17:03am |
re: #614 realwest
What on earth are you talking about? Gee whiz, so McNabb reads defenses using braille - I mean, uh, oh, I see whatcha mean! LOL!
*snicker*
Being a Bears fan I have seen real bad QB's for 30 years. McNabb beats any of them for being incapable of reading a defense. He survives in the NFL just because of his physical gifts.
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Ayatollah Ghilmeini Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:19:23am |
Shana Tova
My best wishes to everyone for a healthy and happy New Year.
We are taught that on Rosh Hashana the Book of Life is Written and on Yom Kippur the book is Sealed. This means that even if we have transgressed, we have one last chance in the 10 days ahead to do deed that might merit a better year ahead.
I have always found this to be a powerful thought, that no matter ones piety or station, you still have ten days to do better, to change the final outcome, even move things from bad to slightly better. But the central idea of behaving like you face Final Judgment itself is the key because all you are asked to do is open your heart a bit and do at least one thing more to make a difference.
If ever there was a time for great faith, with worldwide crisis and presidential elections hanging in the balance, it is now.
One of efforts this year is this prayer: Let this year be a better year for all mankind. Let this be a year of human freedom and the true triumph over the baser hearts in this world. Let this year see the peoples of this world return to fundamental decency and respect for the other and let this coming year see the utter destruction of the designs of the wicked. Let the all that is good and all who are good move from strength to strength.
The greatest human tools against crisis are courage and trust. Let us each and every one of us find the courage to stand with each other. This nation was founded on the principle of standing together and holding back strong tides by locking arms together and holding together no matter what odds.
As always on the New Year, I pray for real peace in Israel. I pray that Israel has the strength to defend herself and her leaders have the courage to do whatever takes, whatever the cost to confront the greatest threat to our existence in 69 years and succeed, that they see what they have to do clearly and go down the road together without fear and to complete Victory (with a Capital V).
To the enemies of of this nation and Israel, my prayer for you is to find curse of Balaam, who, when called upon to curse Israel, blessed it instead. There is another road for you and, even in this late hour, you too can still change and find a certain redemption but this prayer has a second verse: if you don't change you shall join the ash heap of history- the parade of others who tried and march forever in a line around hell itself.
Remember, we live in an age when unbelievable events happen every day. We should each of us work hard to merit blessings and a good inscritption in the Book of Life.
Best wishes to all of you, my friends, to you and your families.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:19:30am |
I just wrote to my congresscritter. She's a liberal in a liberal district, but she's the only one I have. Writing to my senators will be even more futile. One of them is named Dodd.
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:19:48am |
re: #573 3 wood
That's just it, McNabb can audible. The Bears clearly were stacking the line (by the way Reid does tip off pas vs. run on how he has the RB line up, it is so obvious my labrador retriever was reading pass vs. run last night). The fact that McNabb did not audible tells me a lot.
Hindsight is 20/20, but I have to agree that the play calling sucked. Jeeze-louise, at least spread the formation!
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:20:08am |
re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkeyHey Happy Birthday to you! And many, many more!
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loppyd Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:20:50am |
Happy Birthday BDVM!
I will be back later to dole out your spankings. :)
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:20:56am |
Not sure I will be on until Wednesday night, so I wanted to wish all the Jewish LGF posters
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Ben Hur Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:21:00am |
Online Poll Votes.....who really won
As you can see 94% of online readers who go to Drudge Report come from the United States where most are eligible to vote and have a say in this. American Drudge Report readers are more likely to have participated in Drudge's online poll vote since it's visible on the top main page.
But if you look at MSNBC's traffic details approximately 21% of online readers went directly to MSNBC's online poll came from the United States with 79% coming from foreign countries.
Amazing.
And Boker effen Tov and Shana effen Tova.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:22:12am |
re: #598 3 wood
Uh, I get the gold part, but not the bonds part - can you explain in say 50 words or less (and please use small words!)?
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:22:50am |
re: #618 ploome hineni
who wants to email her?
I want to send in a recipe but I don't want to send by ordinary email because I don't want to disclose my email addy. I went where you suggested but I didn't get to safe mail.
Thanks anyways for the suggestion.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:23:03am |
re: #625 Dead Man Voting
Jus' wonderin' when I can expect a piece of the miracle express....
When you stop paying your bills.
/no justice, no peace
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Ojoe Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:24:15am |
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:24:20am |
re: #622 Who Watches the Watchmen?
I just wrote to my congresscritter. She's a liberal in a liberal district, but she's the only one I have. Writing to my senators will be even more futile. One of them is named Dodd.
My sympathies.
Dodd is the biggest crook in the joint.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:24:21am |
re: #602 Typicalwhitey
Which one Typicalwhitey? I replied to all the ones you sent to me over the weekend, I'm pretty sure!
Can ya resend the one from yesterday that you don't think I responded to?
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phoenixgirl Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:24:56am |
so let me get this straight, we give the gov't 700 billion dollars and they promise to give some of it back to us later if they make anything from the buy out? do the ones who pay more get more back? are they giving those that pay nothing something too? do they feed themselves first and throw us a bone?
why do i feel like i'm being scammed?/
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:25:09am |
re: #616 taxfreekiller
I'm just focusing on the billions of dollars of capital that is vanishing before our eyes during this melt down. You then multiply that by a factor of about 10 for the "Multiplier Effect" and you have massive macroeconomic damage.
I have no qualms about the concerns over the Democratic power grab. I agree with a lot of those concerns myself.
But I've been peering over the edge of the abyss at this melt down for the last few weeks and trying to figure out some way for us to avoid it.
One of my specific areas of study in Grad School was the causes of the Great Depression, and then how did we get out of it. I studied it with fascination. My Grandparents and parents talked about it all the time.
I never thought I would actually live through a repeat of it myself.
Now I'm pretty sure I am.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:25:20am |
re: #628 Ben Hur
Happy New Year Ben!
Not Jewish here, how high does Rosh Hashanah rate on as far as the Jewish holiday's go.
Not being flip. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being holiest day....?
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aussiemagpie Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:28:07am |
re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me...
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
And Happy Birthday BDVM!
Another clever, intelligent, gorgeous Libran :-)
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:28:20am |
re: #621 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
Thank you and the same to you and yours, and to all Lizards.
May you all be inscribed and sealed in the Book of Life for the coming year.
L'Shana Tova Tikateyvu v'Tikateymu.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:28:53am |
re: #621 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
My best wishes for you and your family...
I've always said the best thing about being a German Catholic married to a jewish girl is that we get double the Holidays..
Often.. i can get chased around the room by saying it's not the 'days of awe' But the days of shock and awe..
/Luckily she is very ticklish when she catches up to me.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:29:14am |
re: #621 Ayatollah Ghilmeini A Happy and Blessed New Year to you and yours my friend.
And I'll certainly join you in that prayer.
Thank you.
Again.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:30:12am |
re: #630 realwest
Uh, I get the gold part, but not the bonds part - can you explain in say 50 words or less (and please use small words!)?
The yield on bonds goes in the opposite direction of market price. As people rush to put their money into bonds as a safe haven, they bid the price up so the yield (not the coupon rate) drops as a result.
Then when they dump out of the bonds and the market price drops, yield goes up.
I made millions for a former employer for many years doing just that with a part of their portfolio.
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:30:17am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:30:50am |
re: #619 3 wood
Being a Bears fan I have seen real bad QB's for 30 years. McNabb beats any of them for being incapable of reading a defense.
Two words:
/Tavaris Jackson
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:31:18am |
Some people are buying up some bargains, the DOW has crawled back to 256 down for the moment
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:32:11am |
{Lori} good morning..you just reminded me to go check out your website and catch up on the new pictures.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:32:21am |
re: #651 Killian Bundy
Two words:
/Tavaris Jackson
I see your Tavaris Jackson and see you with a Rex Grossman.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:33:00am |
re: #635 DeafDog
"Dodd is the biggest crook in the joint." Now hold on there. He's got some VERY STRONG competition from Frank, Reid, Pelosi and Rangel - you know Dodds been working at it, but I tell ya Barney Franks has him sweating to get that title.
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kansas Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:33:49am |
re: #654 3 wood
I see your Tavaris Jackson and see you with a Rex Grossman.
I go all in with Brody Croyle and Tyler Thigpen.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:33:53am |
re: #652 3 wood
I guess you are telling the truth as you see it. Next registration you should come up with a sock, "VOICE OF DOOM!"
Seriously, I appreciate your play by play and analysis of this stuff. I'd be lost without you (and a few others) on this.
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:34:21am |
re: #638 3 wood
Don't be a twit. You are predicting a great depression and yet you only think there will be a 500 drop in the DOW Industrial averages? Back in 1987, there was a 20+% drop in one day! That would be a 3000 point drop in today's terms.
Try to keep perspective.
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kansas Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:34:57am |
re: #655 realwest
"Dodd is the biggest crook in the joint." Now hold on there. He's got some VERY STRONG competition from Frank, Reid, Pelosi and Rangel - you know Dodds been working at it, but I tell ya Barney Franks has him sweating to get that title.
Hey RW, ironic that the thieves who did all this are gonna walk away with the Presidency, House, and Senate.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:36:23am |
re: #658 DeafDog
Don't name call. Where has your analysis been during this? I may have just missed it, but, haven't seen it.
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rawmuse Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:36:52am |
re: #52 Walter L. Newton
Wow... ok. I prefer flying Frontier unless of course you get a better deal with some other airline.
If Walter needs a ride from the airport I got him covered.
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:37:00am |
re: #658 DeafDog
Reasonable points, but don't call 3 wood names! Not cool.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:37:45am |
re: #658 DeafDog
The problems now are vastly different than they were in 1987.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:38:01am |
re: #649 3 wood
D'uh oh - I KNEW THAT. NO really I did, I think. I mean I'm pretty sure I knew that. Or something like that!
LOL!
BTW - I do disagree that we are on the brink of a depression worse than the Great Depression (wonder how the hell it got THAT name?) where 1 out of every 3 Americans were unable to find work for 5 years or more. I strongly expect a significant recession but not a depression.
Unless Obama wins, then all bets are off.
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:38:08am |
re: #655 realwest
"Dodd is the biggest crook in the joint." Now hold on there. He's got some VERY STRONG competition from Frank, Reid, Pelosi and Rangel - you know Dodds been working at it, but I tell ya Barney Franks has him sweating to get that title.
Isn't that like trying to decide which one is the dirtiest pig in the pigsty?
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:38:24am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:38:58am |
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kansas Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:38:59am |
re: #658 DeafDog
Don't be a twit. You are predicting a great depression and yet you only think there will be a 500 drop in the DOW Industrial averages? Back in 1987, there was a 20+% drop in one day! That would be a 3000 point drop in today's terms.
Try to keep perspective.
Deaf has fallen for the Democrat line. This is the worst_______________since the Great Depression.
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jorline Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:39:07am |
re: #662 ploome hineni
hi
how are you doing this morning?
I'm well...thank you ploome. How are you this morning?
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:39:38am |
re: #656 kansas
"Tyler Thigpen" ? You just made that up, didn't you?!
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lawhawk Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:39:41am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. For those who follow Mets baseball, yesterday was a sad day - the end of Shea Stadium and the end of the Mets season as their bullpen once again blew it and couldn't buy a hit after Beltran hit a 2-run homer to tie the game.
I was at the game and have the photos to prove it. I'll be posting them later, but suffice it to say, it was like a wake/funeral as the outs ticked down and the Mets fans realized their season was shot. Again.
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midwestgak Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:40:07am |
re: #660 jorline
Mornin Jorline - Hope you're doing well today.
iI you sent me an email explaining how to link an attachment, I did not receive it.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:40:22am |
re: #658 DeafDog
We have already lost 20% off the DOW this year.
We are on the verge of making that 30% to 40%. That is a massive loss of capital to the system.
The credit markets are still locked up. LIBOR is at about a 112 basis point premium which means that banks are holding onto their cash and not loaning it out. Billions of dollars are being drained out of the banking system as large investors are taking their cash and converting it into t-bills.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:40:23am |
The pirates are near "Jabooty". What a name! Now I gotta find out how it really is spelled.
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kansas Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:40:52am |
re: #675 realwest
"Tyler Thigpen" ? You just made that up, didn't you?!
No he started for the Kansas City Chiefs last week.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:42:10am |
re: #660 jorline
Good morning, Lizards.
Good morning Jorline!
grabbing another cup of java..back in a sec.
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Spenser (with an S) Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:42:13am |
Djibouti. We have a base there that my neighbor's Marine detachment was guarding in the horn of Africa.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:42:35am |
re: #676 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. For those who follow Mets baseball, yesterday was a sad day - the end of Shea Stadium and the end of the Mets season as their bullpen once again blew it and couldn't buy a hit after Beltran hit a 2-run homer to tie the game.
I was at the game and have the photos to prove it. I'll be posting them later, but suffice it to say, it was like a wake/funeral as the outs ticked down and the Mets fans realized their season was shot. Again.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:42:37am |
re: #656 kansas
I go all in with Brody Croyle and Tyler Thigpen.
I raise you a Rusty Lisch and a Rick Mirer (both from Notre Dame by the way)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:43:34am |
re: #679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The pirates are near "Jabooty". What a name! Now I gotta find out how it really is spelled.
Djibouti. So cool. Pronounced Ja-Booty!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:43:40am |
re: #679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The pirates are near "Jabooty". What a name! Now I gotta find out how it really is spelled.
No pirates near me booty! Arrr!
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Dirk Diggler Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:44:03am |
3wood,
We have already lost 20% off the DOW this year.
We are on the verge of making that 30% to 40%. That is a massive loss of capital to the system.
The credit markets are still locked up. LIBOR is at about a 112 basis point premium which means that banks are holding onto their cash and not loaning it out. Billions of dollars are being drained out of the banking system as large investors are taking their cash and converting it into t-bills.
Will the $700 billion dollar bailout do anything to stop this collapse?
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:44:30am |
Russian Crew Member Dies on Ukrainian Ship
...The captain, a Ukrainian, then told the BBC that a Russian crew member had died from hypertension.
I suggest Russia would probably take military action against Somalian pirates. ... for Russia the deployment of a ship has a purpose, and it isn't to be a coalition partner. There will be an incident somewhere and plenty of photography to prove it, Putin will have his headline. No doubt this new headline, the death of a Russian citizen in the hands of pirates, shapes the necessity for a new, positive headline for the Russian leadership in the future.
...According to this report out of China, even after the ship is released it still may be seized, as there are questions whether the ship is violating a UN weapons embargo to the Sudan.
Andrew Mwangura of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program said on Sunday the Somali pirates claim to be in possession of confidential documents showing that the arms were actually destined for southern Sudan and not Kenya.
Mwangura said that the hijacked ship-MV Faina was ferrying the fourth such consignment from Ukrainian to southern Sudan.
"One of the cargo arrived at the port of Mombasa in October last year, two in February this year. The seized load of 33 Russian-built T-72 tanks and some ammunition was the fourth cargo with military equipment for southern Sudan," Mwangura told Xinhua by telephone on Sunday.
If this is true, the Russians have extra cause to be concerned.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:44:40am |
re: #660 jorline
Hey good morning jorline, how are you today?
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lori lane Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:44:41am |
re: #653 HoosierHoops
{Lori} good morning..you just reminded me to go check out your website and catch up on the new pictures.
Hey, {HH}. We got thumped again this weekend, but at least we were actually IN the game this time. Had some difficulty taking my photos this time... discovered through about 4 ushers/ticket scanners that a camera with an "extended lens" is now not allowed in the stands without a press pass. CRAZY. The girl usher said she would "report me" if I didn't stop using it. Grrrrr. I've posted my experiences on the sports message board, and others had the same problem. Guess they think of us as competition with their new university photo store. Hope to get the rule changed. :-(
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:45:10am |
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:45:20am |
re: #655 realwest
"Dodd is the biggest crook in the joint." Now hold on there. He's got some VERY STRONG competition from Frank, Reid, Pelosi and Rangel - you know Dodds been working at it, but I tell ya Barney Franks has him sweating to get that title.
Point taken. Especially on Reid, IMO. Reid's real estate deals in Vegas stink to heaven. The Media gave him a pass because they couldn't tie it to Bush
Dodd's been playing the Fannie Mae 'donation' game, even though he's had no serious threats to keeping his seat...his campaign funds are a nice little slush fund for him. He's also a "Friend of Angelo" and got the sweet-heart loan deal....again, no scrutiny. The lack of scrutiny on the Dems pisses me off.
You folks in Connecticut need to throw that bum out.
Franks is an idiot, but other than his boyfirend running the gay sex prostitution ring out of his house, I have not heard any stories of corruption with him.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:45:36am |
re: #679 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The pirates are near "Jabooty". What a name! Now I gotta find out how it really is spelled.
Djibouti.
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:46:09am |
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3 wood Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:46:17am |
Sorry if I bummed people out with my thoughts on the market. Just saying what I see, and I've been a professional investment manager as well and taught economics for many years.
I hope I'm wrong.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:02am |
re: #696 MandyManners
Djibouti.
An iguana eating a pinapple in Djibouti was the answer I gave to an email brain-teaser that's been making the rounds. Very LGF-esque.
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:19am |
On the morning of Rosh Hashana as the congregation was filing into the sanctuary, Rabbi Feldman noticed little Max standing in the foyer of the synagogue staring up at a large plaque. It was covered with names with small American flags mounted on either side of it. The six-year old had been staring at the plaque for some time, so the rabbi walked up, stood beside the little boy, and said quietly, 'Boker tov, Max. ''Boker tov, Rabbi Feldman,' he replied, still focused on the plaque. ' Rabbi Feldman, what is this?' he said, pointing to the plaque.
The good Rabbi tenderly put his arm around Max's shoulder and said, ' Well son, it's a memorial to all the young men and women who died in the service. '
Which service, Rosh Hashana or Yom Kippur?'
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:23am |
re: #658 DeafDog
Respectfully, calling 3 wood a twit is akin to saying that to Charles about programming and code writing.
He does it for a living - has for many years and I'd venture to say he knows oh, about 1000% more of things economic than you could ever possibly hope to.
What is it you do for a living, again?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:26am |
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jorline Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:28am |
re: #677 midwestgak
Mornin Jorline - Hope you're doing well today.
iI you sent me an email explaining how to link an attachment, I did not receive it.
Good morning. mwg. I didn't send it, but I will this morning...sorry.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:29am |
Oh jeez, I just turned on C-SPAN and there's Rep. Rangel. What's worse, I'm agreeing with some of what he's saying.
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WriterMom Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:34am |
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:47:35am |
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rawmuse Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:48:06am |
TRIVIA QUESTION(s)
American President Andrew Jackson was also embroiled in a major Bank crisis.
Some one tried to assassinate him as a result.
Q) How many guns did the assassin use in the attempt? and
How did President Jackson respond?
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:48:09am |
re: #669 Kenneth
Isn't that like trying to decide which one is the dirtiest pig in the pigsty?
Since Dodd is on my farm, I say he's the dirtiest pig.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:48:14am |
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jorline Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:48:28am |
re: #681 HoosierHoops
Good morning Jorline!
grabbing another cup of java..back in a sec.
Hey, HH...did you give dorin several cups this morning?
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:48:29am |
re: #702 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
An iguana eating a pinapple in Djibouti was the answer I gave to an email brain-teaser that's been making the rounds. Very LGF-esque.
What was the teaser?
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kansas Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:48:35am |
re: #698 3 wood
Sorry if I bummed people out with my thoughts on the market. Just saying what I see, and I've been a professional investment manager as well and taught economics for many years.
I hope I'm wrong.
Don't the market movers have to drive the market down so they can buy up the deals and steals?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:49:03am |
re: #711 rawmuse
TRIVIA QUESTION(s)
American President Andrew Jackson was also embroiled in a major Bank crisis.
Some one tried to assassinate him as a result.Q) How many guns did the assassin use in the attempt? and
How did President Jackson respond?
Two guns? And Jackson whupped him up with his cane.
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rawmuse Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:49:36am |
re: #717 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
The WINNAH! for the day!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:49:36am |
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Wishing Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:49:39am |
Ok...i just saw this vid on Burgess from yesterday's CSPAN , saying we are under martial law, as stated by Pelosi. HUH?
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:50:38am |
re: #661 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
re: #664 Spenser (with an S)
I apologize about name calling.
I disagree that we are on the edge of anything like a great depression. We are having a tough time in the stock/bond markets, and if you are in the stock/bond markets, then you are feeling the pain. Now is the time to keep your cool and not sell if you own quality assets.
Emotional arguments to sell are counterproductive and I saw nothing but emotional arguments by 3-wood.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:50:42am |
re: #711 rawmuse
The first attempt to do bodily harm to a President was against Jackson. Jackson ordered the dismissal of Robert B. Randolph from the Navy for embezzlement. On May 6, 1833, Jackson sailed on USS Cygnet to Fredericksburg, Virginia, where he was to lay the cornerstone on a monument near the grave of Mary Ball Washington, George Washington's mother. During a stopover near Alexandria, Virginia, Randolph appeared and struck the President. He then fled the scene with several members of Jackson's party chasing him, including the well known writer Washington Irving. Jackson decided not to press charges.[7]
From Wiki...
On January 30, 1835, a more serious attack occurred in the Capitol. Jackson was crossing the Capitol Rotunda after the funeral of South Carolina Representative Warren R. Davis when Richard Lawrence approached Jackson. Lawrence aimed two pistols at Jackson, which both misfired. Jackson then attacked Lawrence with his cane, prompting his aides to restrain him. Others present, including David Crockett, restrained and disarmed Lawrence, who was clearly deranged.
Richard Lawrence gave the doctors several reasons for the shooting. He had recently lost his job painting houses and somehow blamed Jackson. He claimed that with the President dead, "money would be more plenty"—a reference to Jackson’s struggle with the Bank of the United States—and that he "could not rise until the President fell." Finally, he informed his interrogators that he was actually a deposed English King—Richard III, specifically, dead since 1485—and that Jackson was merely his clerk. He was deemed insane, institutionalized, and never punished for his assassination attempt.
Jackson's statue in the Rotunda is placed in front of the doorway in which the attempt occurred.
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jorline Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:50:49am |
re: #690 realwest
Hey good morning jorline, how are you today?
I'm well RW...hope everything is going well for you this morning.
Do you think the bill is going to pass?
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Typicalwhitey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:50:51am |
re: #636 realwest
Which one Typicalwhitey? I replied to all the ones you sent to me over the weekend, I'm pretty sure!
Can ya resend the one from yesterday that you don't think I responded to?
I didn't need a response.
Just wanted you to read the article I linked to
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:50:52am |
ONE key pioneer of ACORN's subprime-loan shakedown racket was Madeline Talbott - an activist with extensive ties to Barack Obama. She was also in on the ground floor of the disastrous turn in Fannie Mae's mortgage policies.
Long the director of Chicago ACORN, Talbott is a specialist in "direct action" - organizers' term for their militant tactics of intimidation and disruption. Perhaps her most famous stunt was leading a group of ACORN protesters breaking into a meeting of the Chicago City Council to push for a "living wage" law, shouting in defiance as she was arrested for mob action and disorderly conduct. But her real legacy may be her drive to push banks into making risky mortgage loans.
IT would be tough to find an "on the ground" community organizer more closely tied to the subprime-mortgage fiasco than Madeline Talbott. And no one has been more supportive of Madeline Talbott than Barack Obama.
When Obama was just a budding community organizer in Chicago, Talbott was so impressed that she asked him to train her personal staff.
He returned to Chicago in the early '90s, just as Talbott was starting her pressure campaign on local banks. Chicago ACORN sought out Obama's legal services for a "motor voter" case and partnered with him on his 1992 "Project VOTE" registration drive.
A smoking gun tying Obama to the credit meltdown.
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jorline Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:51:34am |
re: #694 ploome hineni
:D grrrrrrrreat
/but I will have what Mandy's having
I missed Mandy's comment, is she ok?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:51:37am |
re: #719 MandyManners
I'm sure you did. Hell, I may have heard of it in passing.
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kansas Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:52:20am |
re: #726 Kenneth
A smoking gun tying Obama to the credit meltdown.
I live close to Missouri, and you sir are under arrest for spreading information about Obama.///sarc
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:52:21am |
re: #711 rawmuse
TRIVIA QUESTION(s)
American President Andrew Jackson was also embroiled in a major Bank crisis.
Some one tried to assassinate him as a result.Q) How many guns did the assassin use in the attempt? and
How did President Jackson respond?
I believe it was a pistol (one), and Jackson caned the guy as the result.
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Kenneth Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:53:03am |
More:
In those years, he also conducted leadership-training seminars for ACORN's up-and-coming organizers. That is, Obama was training the army of ACORN organizers who participated in Madeline Talbott's drive against Chicago's banks.More than that, Obama was funding them. As he rose to a leadership role at Chicago's Woods Fund, he became the most powerful voice on the foundation's board for supporting ACORN and other community organizers. In 1995, the Woods Fund substantially expanded its funding of community organizers - and Obama chaired the committee that urged and managed the shift.
RTWFT!
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aussiemagpie Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:53:55am |
re: #698 3 wood
Sorry if I bummed people out with my thoughts on the market. Just saying what I see, and I've been a professional investment manager as well and taught economics for many years.
I hope I'm wrong.
Thanks for your insight as always
Your words are easy to understand and so helpful to those like me who are economics- challenged
And as a furriner I appreciate this as what your $ does greatly affects us down here
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:53:57am |
re: #715 MandyManners
What was the teaser?
This is strange...can you figure it out?
Are you the 2% or 98% of the population?
Follow the instructions! NO PEEKING AHEAD!
*** Do the following exercise. It's guaranteed to raise an eyebrow.***
* There's no trick or surprise.
* Just follow these instructions, and answer the questions one
at a time and as quickly as you can!
* Again, as quickly as you can but don't advance until you've
done each of them.
* Now, scroll down (but not too fast, you might miss something).
Think of a number from 1 to 10
Multiply that number by 9
If the number is a 2-digit number, add the digits together
Now subtract 5
Determine which letter in the alphabet corresponds to the number you ..... ended up with (example: 1=a, 2=b, 3=c, 4=d, etc)
Think of a country that starts with that letter
Remember the last letter of the name of that country
Think of the name of an animal that starts with that letter
Remember the last letter in the name of that animal
Think of the name of a fruit that starts with that letter
Are you thinking of a Kangaroo in Denmark eating an Orange?
If not, you're among the 2% of the population whose minds are
different enough to think of something else.
98% of people will answer with kangaroos in Denmark when
given this exercise.
This e-mail is actually worth sending on to others.
Forward it to people you know so they can find out if they are
usual or unusual.
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rawmuse Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:54:02am |
re: #732 Honorary Yooper
I believe it was a pistol (one), and Jackson caned the guy as the result.
It was 2 pistols, which both failed to fire. Jackson caned the guy.
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soccerdad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:54:22am |
re: #566 3 wood
DOW is 235 down and still plummeting.
Folks, you are seeing a genuine market melt down happening before your eyes.
This is going to take a long time to recover from.
I just found out that one of my neighbors handed in the keys to their house and walked away a couple weeks ago, could not afford the mortgage. I thought they were on vacation.
I see coming:
1. Deflation
2. Unemployemnt of at least 10% (unemployment benefits need to be extended now to ease the blow). Companies will also be slashing costs/salaries via any means they can.
3. Dropping demand for oil world wide. We may not need to build new refineries after all.
4. Many smaller banks closing.
5. It will be almost impossible to get a loan for quite a while.
So where does one put one's money that is in the market? a friend told me to move into a short term treasury fund. I can make an exchange into that pretty easily within my fund family. Does that make sense?
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:54:50am |
re: #691 lori lane
Well that's not right..IU shouldn't be pissing off the fans..
esp. over pictures!
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:55:23am |
re: #678 3 wood
We have already lost 20% off the DOW this year.
We are on the verge of making that 30% to 40%. That is a massive loss of capital to the system.
The credit markets are still locked up. LIBOR is at about a 112 basis point premium which means that banks are holding onto their cash and not loaning it out. Billions of dollars are being drained out of the banking system as large investors are taking their cash and converting it into t-bills.
All true. But there are some well capitalized banks that are buying assets very cheaply. JP Morgan and Bank of America, for example, just bought some stuff very cheaply. If one does their homework and has patience, then this can be a great buying opportunity.
(Of course, there is no way of knowing how long the 'buying opportunity' will last.)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:56:06am |
re: #740 DeafDog
What do you think about Citi/Wachovia?
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CommonSense Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:56:50am |
NObama's workers
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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soccerdad Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:58:39am |
re: #683 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
awww...now that is just not nice.
(the logo needs to have a noose incorporated.)
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CapeCoddah Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:58:39am |
re: #711 rawmuse
Richard Lawrence, two guns, Jackson beat the snot out of him with his cane.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:58:59am |
Time toget down to some work. See you later.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:59:01am |
re: #705 realwest
Respectfully, calling 3 wood a twit is akin to saying that to Charles about programming and code writing.
He does it for a living - has for many years and I'd venture to say he knows oh, about 1000% more of things economic than you could ever possibly hope to.
What is it you do for a living, again?
Yuo know Real..I've tried watching those money shows on TV.. And it is so confusing and complicated to get my mind around..
Plus nobody ever agrees with anyone on the show..It's like somebody has got to be wrong here..
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 7:59:26am |
re: #716 kansas
Don't the market movers have to drive the market down so they can buy up the deals and steals?
YES!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:00:27am |
Hey! A fatwa on Sarah Palin! Shook hands with the Pakistan President.
Yay!
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lori lane Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:01:07am |
re: #739 HoosierHoops
Well that's not right..IU shouldn't be pissing off the fans..
esp. over pictures!
Bingo. They should just be thankful we're in the stands. Sheesh.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:04:31am |
re: #714 jorline
Hey, HH...did you give dorin several cups this morning?
Hey! I don't know how the heck Dorian gets up so early for work..
There really needs to be a law..
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Killian Bundy Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:06:16am |
So, if the House passes the EESA today, will the markets rally or take another leg down?
/and what if it doesn't pass?
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DeafDog Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:06:34am |
re: #741 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What do you think about Citi/Wachovia?
My two cents is that Charles Prince made a mess out of Citi. The new guy (Pandit?) is improving things there, but it has a lot of bad investments and a historic scattershot strategy that they are dealing with. As far as I can tell, the Citi/Wachovia merger is two sick companies getting together. It should help them in spreading their risk, but it's not as appealing as the recent JP Morgan and BAC deals.
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realwest Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:08:59am |
re: #747 HoosierHoops
Yeah, but part of the apparent lack of consensus is that the types who LIKED to have the market nosedive so they could buy "on the cheap" have, for the most part, lost their ability to buy anything except a quart of milk (remember: the theory is you buy with borrowed money, never your own money and banks haven't even been loaning to other banks!).
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:24:36am |
re: #749 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey! A fatwa on Sarah Palin! Shook hands with the Pakistan President.
Yay!
I believe the fatwa was on the Pakistan President, not Sarah Palin.
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 29, 2008 8:26:38am |
re: #698 3 wood
Sorry if I bummed people out with my thoughts on the market. Just saying what I see, and I've been a professional investment manager as well and taught economics for many years.
I hope I'm wrong.
re: #705 realwest
Respectfully, calling 3 wood a twit is akin to saying that to Charles about programming and code writing.
He does it for a living - has for many years and I'd venture to say he knows oh, about 1000% more of things economic than you could ever possibly hope to.
What is it you do for a living, again?
I appreciate 3 wood's honest analysis and I have heard the same gloomy forecasts from many others lately. So he may be correct...or he may be dead wrong.
Most market analysts are wrong more often than they are correct. That is why the market indices have outperformed most investment funds over the past number of years.
BTW, based on my own limited experience, calling someone a "twit" on LGF is pretty mild around here isn't it? It is not a polite thing to say but things are said here all the time in the heat of the moment that are insensitive. So let's not crucify someone for an off the cuff remark.
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Wyatt Earp Mon, Sep 29, 2008 10:15:10am |
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