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Open | Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:48:12 pm PDT

I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.

Mark Twain

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1 Bobibutu  Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:50:31pm

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sat. the 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

Heated swimming pool. Bring you suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

2 Mel Lono  Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:54:03pm
3 Bobibutu  Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:55:40pm

re: #1 Bobibutu

Gak! 25th Oct. Correction.

4 Irish Rose  Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:56:49pm

I wanna go!

I'll have to wait for the Midwest meet n' greet, I guess.

5 zombie  Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:57:13pm

The Palin Song

(with apologies to Judy Garland)
(Sung to the tune of The Trolley Song)
(From the musical Meet Me in D.C.)

Sarah:
With my drop-dead figure
and my drop-dead looks
and my hair piled high upon my head

I'll get the Presidency,
White House residency
when John McCain drops dead!

Vote vote vote go the rednecks
Plop plop plop goes McCain
Me me me in the White House!
Then you liberals will start to feel pain

You'll worship God
We'll pray in schools
I'll teach that Darwin and Copernicus were fools
Your one-night stands
will have a price
You'll catch motherhood along with the crab lice

Democrats:
With his left-wing mantra
and his light brown skin
He's the One we've dreamt of all our lives

We're not about to let some
MILF like you upset him
So darling out come the knives!

Lie lie lie go the bloggers
Smear smear smear goes the press
Down down down goes your polling

As election day nears we will play on the fears of the left!
We will leave you bereft!

Sarah:
Don't you count on it
I stole your meme, I'm a dream, I'm the cream of the crop!
All the way to the top!

6 Syrah  Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:59:36pm
7 Mel Lono  Sun, Sep 28, 2008 11:59:45pm

Funny how it works out. That was meant for the other thread.... Seems to fit though.

8 Bobibutu  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:02:25am

re: #4 Irish Rose

I wanna go!

I'll have to wait for the Midwest meet n' greet, I guess.

I don't have an answer for you other than you are most welcome and expect a miracle ... ya never know.

9 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:05:06am
10 Clubsec  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:08:37am

Speaking of Mark Twain quotes ...
'Man is the only animal who blushes, or has reason to do so.'
(or words to that effect)

One of his best: 'Neither life nor property is safe when Congress is in session.' (or was that Will Rogers?)

Folks grab the vasoline and get a grip on your ankles. I fear, Pelosi, Dodd, Schumer, and Frank are going to have at us hard and heavy. After all is said and done, the MSM will make it crucial that the Republicans are held to blame.

May you live in interesting times. -Votaire

TTFN

11 zombie  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:10:35am

re: #9 buzzsawmonkey

Good one, zombie!

I felt guilty putting the onus on you (I suggested you take it on), so I decided I should just do it myself.

Actually, the whole thing came to me as I was trying to fall asleep, staring at the ceiling, so I jumped up and wrote it down.

The scanning of each syllable is so perfect, I amazed even myself!

12 winston06  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:12:33am

good night every one from Banff, Alberta, Canada ;-)

13 Crux Australis  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:14:18am

Good morning/afternoon/night from Sydney, Australia.

14 Syrah  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:15:20am

Signing off from the Puget Sound region.

Goodnight people.

As for the economic crisis that will rage in and out of control Monday and beyond, . . .

Don't Panic.

But don't lose sight of the exits either.

15 Crux Australis  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:15:59am

What's up with polls now?

16 Bobibutu  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:20:19am

Sheese 1220 - nite all.

18 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:27:16am

That youtube video about him professing his reasoning is pretty funny.

I just watched the Burning Down The House video. Wow. I posted THAT on my page.

19 Ackomanyuki  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:29:49am

I am trying to post a link and it is directing me to pick a catergory from the menu when I hit submit. Can someone clue me in to where this menu is?

20 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:31:59am

re: #18 TheMatrix31

Burning Down the House id downright damning and must go viral.

And here's a good reason why that video needs to go viral:

While Out Campaigning Obama Bashes McCain (Back in DC Working) For Acting "Katrina-Like" on the Financial Crisis

What a prick.

21 LeePro  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:32:24am

re: #19 Ackomanyuki

I am trying to post a link and it is directing me to pick a catergory from the menu when I hit submit. Can someone clue me in to where this menu is?

Just above the "Link Address"
It's a drop-down box.

22 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:32:37am

re: #19 Ackomanyuki

The drop down menu is next to the "submit" button.

23 LeePro  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:34:33am

  ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

I'm thinking now's a good time to sneak off before LoL shows up and makes me want to stay!

G'nite, {Lizards}!

[klunk]
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

24 Ackomanyuki  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:36:29am

re: #22 Sharmuta


Thanks, I just sorted it out.

25 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:38:44am

re: #23 LeePro

Just wanted to say goodnight.

27 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:51:44am

re: #26 TheMatrix31

Come on- the cover is so much better.

28 zombie  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 12:59:36am

re: #17 Ackomanyuki

A youtube video from a conservative five percenter explaining his support for Mccain/Palin.

That is GREAT! That needs to be seen by every black Obama supporter. He is laying down the TRUTH!

29 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:00:10am

re: #27 Sharmuta

Ahahaha! I'd forgotten how much I love that video. Saved it. :)

30 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:02:24am

I propose that the bailout package limit executive severance packages to a new pair of work boots and cab fare to the Brooklyn Bridge.

That way, they will have two options for doing the right thing.

31 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:03:12am
32 MagnaniomousCoward  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:04:44am

re: #27 Sharmuta

Come on- the cover is so much better.

"This video is not available in your country". Is it Alien Ant Farm's cover?

33 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:05:57am

re: #32 MagnaniomousCoward

Yes.

34 Ackomanyuki  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:06:55am

re: #28 zombie

That is GREAT! That needs to be seen by every black Obama supporter. He is laying down the TRUTH!

I posted a link. Ding it up!

35 zombie  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:10:17am

re: #34 Ackomanyuki

I posted a link. Ding it up!

Where is the link? I don't see it in the spinoffs for this thread.

36 RTLM  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:10:22am
37 zombie  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:12:47am

Are: #34 Ackomanyuki

I posted a link. Ding it up!

Ah, OK, I found it in the "link viewer" and dinged it up there. But I can't figure out how it's there and not here! Doesn't matter, I guess.

38 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:13:44am

I would tend to prefer the AAF version as well, but figured you guys would like the original better.

39 Ackomanyuki  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:16:33am

re: #37 zombie

A


Ah, OK, I found it in the "link viewer" and dinged it up there. But I can't figure out how it's there and not here! Doesn't matter, I guess.

Great, I was just posting directions. It looks like the third item down at present.

The link title for anyone else interested is: Video: BTW I'm Voting McCain Palin

40 RTLM  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:26:25am

Officials: 5 killed in northern Lebanon explosion

The security officials said the car packed with explosives was parked on the side of a road and detonated by remote control as the bus drove in the Bahsas neighborhood on the southern entrance to the northern port city of Tripoli.

They said the explosives used were mixed with metal balls to maximize casualties.

The blast, which tossed the car about a dozen yards, occurred during the morning rush hour, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

I think this bombing and the one in Damascus was by Hezbollah.

(not a diversion)

41 RTLM  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:29:40am

re: #40 RTLM

pimf - [Link: www.breitbart.com...]

42 devnulled  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:31:40am

In the spirit of Open Thread...

There better damn well be an October Surprise with all these unaddressed issues that Obama is mired in.

If Dukakis could lose for grinning like the tank-scooting moron he was then what the hell is wrong with the muckrakers for the GOP nowadays?

/short rant off

43 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:39:39am

So what's good progressive rock these days...

44 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:40:14am

re: #31 Sharmuta

That's the guy who smacked down Diddy!

If you haven't seen it: another one by him

A fight breaks out between Darth Barack and one of the common folk, when Obama demands his vote, and is told no!
political satirical kung fu light saber fun!

I love it! In one part, "Barack" gets out of breath while fighting, and the guy says "oh I'm sorry, are you out of breath? Do you need a breathalyzer? Or an inhalator?" ROFLOL!

45 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:51:36am

Whoa! How long has this open thread been here?

46 jonathan1984  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:52:01am

re: #45 Fenway_Nation

About two hours or so.

47 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:52:35am

re: #43 EIDE_Interface

So what's good progressive rock these days...

I would go with Muse.

48 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:57:03am

re: #47 TheMatrix31

I would go with Muse.

I was thinking the same thing... Great minds think alike!

49 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:59:39am

Well I just posted a comment on the official McCain page at YouTube for the latest ad. I fully expect to be cursed and called names, and get lots of thumbs down votes, because it seems that more leftists post comments there than Republicans. Oh well, I hope I can handle the rejection...

Everyone needs to go give it 5 stars, anyway. :)

50 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 1:59:41am
51 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

52 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:00:06am

re: #1 Bobibutu

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates... My Halloween treat - so no cost to you.

Wow... ok. I prefer flying Frontier unless of course you get a better deal with some other airline.

53 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:00:24am

re: #50 TheMatrix31

A few of my favorites from them;

City of Delusion

Map of the Problematique

Muscle Museum

Dark Shines

All great of course. I love Citizen Erased - it's their prog epic. It reminds me a bit of Pink Floyd.

54 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:01:52am

Kind of a crap-tastic day in the NFL- my team didn't even play and I'm pretty sure I took a beating in the football pool (what would be the odds everyone else did worse than me?)

Between the rabbit ears, Sattelite TV and XM radio, I was flipping between all kinds of baseball games today. So the AL Central might not be decided 'til Tuesday night? So be it- I've kinda dug the one-game playoff (granted Bucky Dent was a wee bit before mytime) and last year's between the Rockies and Padres was classic.

Kinda funny how the Yankees/Red Sox went to extra innings at Fenway before Van Every won it w/ a walk-off 2-out base hit and hardly anyone seemed to give a damn after what happened with the Brewers, Mets, White Sox and Twins today. I mean, I'm sure it looked great about this time last year when they were scheduling Yanks/BoSox to finish off the regular season.....

55 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:01:59am

re: #51 littleoldlady

Hi, good to see you! Are you busy getting ready for the holiday?

/Rosh Hashana begins Tuesday, right?

56 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:02:26am

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

LOL

57 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:03:56am

re: #54 Fenway_Nation

Kind of a crap-tastic day in the NFL- my team didn't even play and I'm pretty sure I took a beating in the football pool (what would be the odds everyone else did worse than me?)

Between the rabbit ears, Sattelite TV and XM radio, I was flipping between all kinds of baseball games today. So the AL Central might not be decided 'til Tuesday night? So be it- I've kinda dug the one-game playoff (granted Bucky Dent was a wee bit before mytime) and last year's between the Rockies and Padres was classic.

Kinda funny how the Yankees/Red Sox went to extra innings at Fenway before Van Every won it w/ a walk-off 2-out base hit and hardly anyone seemed to give a damn after what happened with the Brewers, Mets, White Sox and Twins today. I mean, I'm sure it looked great about this time last year when they were scheduling Yanks/BoSox to finish off the regular season.....

Too bad for me, the Braves have been out of contention for two months now.

Last year's Rockies/Padres was unbelievable. I don't expect the same from White Sox/Twins. Just too hard to have such another awesome game.

But October is just, classic. Thank God it's almost here.

58 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:03:56am

re: #56 gop_patriot

LOL

That you. I just woke up to pee. Saw that there were some Lizards still awake... hi.

59 nightwatch  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:04:29am

So, the day went sumthin like dis....


Shoplifting dude reached to da waist-band and a rent-o-cop with da three-50-seven loaded wit da wad-cutters drew down and ....shot da dude in the....arm. Fact is, that a wad-cutter from a 3-50-7 makes small hole on entry but carries an acre or so of flesh out the exit! so the arm has a sort of Panoramic view through it if ya know what I say.. Now this poor illegal dude is brought unto my saving grace, and it is noted that the back side of said arm is missing MAJOR physical properties.. the uniformed officer says, "If ya want the rest of it, we'll have to scrape it off at least 3 cars in the parking lot of the 99 cent store.

"Q" "Why was he shop-lifting?

"Q" Why is there a rent-o-cop packing a 3-50-7 with wad-cutters in the parking lot of a 99 cent store ?

"Q" Why is OBAMA a candidate for CIC?

THE WORLD WANTS TO KNOW........

60 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:02am

re: #56 gop_patriot

LOL

"That you" s/b "Thank you" Maybe I should go back to bed before I wake up?

61 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:03am

I can't sleep so I made some signs to put in my car tomorrow, if I can fit them in the back window:

1. Democrats caused the economic crisis by forcing banks to issue bad loans and ignoring corruption and bad management at

2. Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. Barack Obama took more money from FM & FM in 4 years than other senators took in 10!

3. Two crooked former administrators at FM & FM are or have been Obama campaign advisors! Bush tried to fix problems in 2003 and McCain

4. tried to fix them in 2005 but Democrats did not cooperate! Democrats, Obama, and Socialism are not the solution!

5. Real reform, sensible regulation, and letting free markets & capitalism work is! McCain/Palin '08!

Can anyone suggest any additions or corrections (within reason)?

62 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:03am

re: #58 Walter L. Newton

Hi Walter.

I didn't think of the whole "treat" thing. Guess I'll be flying out too. ;)

63 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:05:56am

re: #57 TheMatrix31


Last year's Rockies/Padres was unbelievable. I don't expect the same from White Sox/Twins. Just too hard to have such another awesome game.

But October is just, classic. Thank God it's almost here.

Expect the unexpected.

64 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:06:01am

re: #58 Walter L. Newton

Well, not too many, I thought I'd killed the thread there for a minute. I'm good at that.

Btw, how are you recovering from your surgery?

65 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:06:19am

re: #61 Tigger2005

Wow- you going to fit all that in your car window?

66 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:08am

re: #62 Sharmuta

Hi Walter.

I didn't think of the whole "treat" thing. Guess I'll be flying out too. ;)

Kewl, old Bobi is going to take a big hit on this one.

67 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:14am

re: #36 RTLM

Syria says Islamist bomber behind deadly blast

(Zoinks!)

shocka! who would have guessed that?

/

68 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:20am

re: #55 gop_patriot

gop! :-)

Tonight, actually. As usual I'm way behind schedule, plus my computer decided that today was the day to begin an arm wrestling competition.

/I don't think I'm winning... :-(

69 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:22am

re: #65 Sharmuta

Wow- you going to fit all that in your car window?

Yeah, I may not be able to see out the back very well, but how else am I going to get the whole message across?

70 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:07:43am

Buffalo Bills are 4-0. I think they're going back to the Super Bowl. Maybe they'll meet the Cowboys again - but this time they'll win.

71 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:09:06am

re: #69 Tigger2005

Yeah, I may not be able to see out the back very well, but how else am I going to get the whole message across?

Billboard?

72 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:09:47am

re: #70 EIDE_Interface

Buffalo Bills The only NFL Team with a New York State Mailing Address are 4-0. I think they're going back to the Super Bowl. Maybe they'll meet the Cowboys again - but this time they'll win.


Thought I'd clean that up a little.

73 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:10:12am

re: #71 littleoldlady

Billboard?

LOL I don't have the cash to rent billboard space and by tomorrow I doubt I'll be able to get one on credit ...

74 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:11:13am

re: #64 gop_patriot

Well, not too many, I thought I'd killed the thread there for a minute. I'm good at that. Btw, how are you recovering from your surgery?

Ok. Althought, two days after the operation, I was all swollen up, and black and blue down to the scrotum, so I went into the acute car clinic and the nurse tells me "That's pretty normal... you'll be ok."

I told her I have a a lot of surgery in the past, including hernia surgery, and I have never bruised up like this betore.

A few days later I had my first "official" follow up visit. The nuse looked at me and said "That's not normal, but you'll be ok."

Yea, idiots. A lot of the bruising is vanishing (although my balls are still black, is that TMI) and I still have a lot of swelling.

I probably got some intern practicing. Managed care, gotta love it.

75 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:11:46am

just got back from Insane Diego.....
Fear & Agent Orange were great, as was GFI.

Dr. Know, OTOH, sucked pretty much. high point was some kick droping off the balcony into the mosh pit......... what a fool

76 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:12:00am

re: #69 Tigger2005

Yeah, I may not be able to see out the back very well, but how else am I going to get the whole message across?

Armed insurection?

77 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:12:16am

Thanks for the Fruitcup, {lol}.

78 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:12:41am

re: #76 Walter L. Newton

Armed insurection?

If you got my back, let's go for it.

79 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:13:11am

re: #69 Tigger2005

Promote this link?

80 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:13:16am

Maybe it would help my typing if I turned on the lights? Nah... then I would have to wake up.

81 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:13:24am

re: #61 Tigger2005


Have you thought about getting one of those magnetic signs custom-made? Then again, you'd still have to boil it down to a few key sentences to make it have any immediate impact.

/Must be nice being a liberal...one's oh-so-nuanced-and-complex worldview seems to fit quite nicely on a simplistic platitude-laden bumper sticker.

82 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:13:43am

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

Ok. Althought, two days after the operation, I was all swollen up, and black and blue down to the scrotum, so I went into the acute car clinic and the nurse tells me "That's pretty normal... you'll be ok."

I told her I have a a lot of surgery in the past, including hernia surgery, and I have never bruised up like this betore.

A few days later I had my first "official" follow up visit. The nuse looked at me and said "That's not normal, but you'll be ok."

Yea, idiots. A lot of the bruising is vanishing (although my balls are still black, is that TMI) and I still have a lot of swelling.

I probably got some intern practicing. Managed care, gotta love it.

better you than me.......

(and no, i *don't* want to feel your pain %-)

83 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:14:51am

re: #81 Fenway_Nation

Have you thought about getting one of those magnetic signs custom-made? Then again, you'd still have to boil it down to a few key sentences to make it have any immediate impact.

/Must be nice being a liberal...one's oh-so-nuanced-and-complex worldview seems to fit quite nicely on a simplistic platitude-laden bumper sticker.

mine w*rks pretty well: "BITE ME!"

%-)

84 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:16:34am

Sharmuta! :-)

85 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:16:48am

re: #82 redc1c4

better you than me....... (and no, i *don't* want to feel your pain %-)

Actually, that has been the high side of all this, I haven't had much pain at all. I have a high pain tolerance anyway.

86 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:18:08am

re: #68 littleoldlady

Tonight, actually. As usual I'm way behind schedule, plus my computer decided that today was the day to begin an arm wrestling competition.

/I don't think I'm winning... :-(

Ack, sorry to hear about your computer! I sure hope it starts running smoothly again.
And sorry you're behind schedule. Story of my life.

88 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:19:34am

Did I miss the fruit cup?

89 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:20:11am

re: #86 gop_patriot

Thanks and thanks.

/I may have to start praying a little early... ;-)

90 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:20:47am

re: #87 redc1c4

Interesting..... but i never saw this on the news.

Truth Squad this.

Ace cracks me up.

91 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:20:50am

re: #51 littleoldlady

sorry late for fruit. What!, no pineapple? Morning, maam.

92 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:21:01am

ok, back to bed.

93 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:21:46am

re: #92 Walter L. Newton

G'night, Walter. See you in Cali!

94 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:21:49am

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

Ok. Althought, two days after the operation, I was all swollen up, and black and blue down to the scrotum, so I went into the acute car clinic and the nurse tells me "That's pretty normal... you'll be ok."

I told her I have a a lot of surgery in the past, including hernia surgery, and I have never bruised up like this betore.

A few days later I had my first "official" follow up visit. The nuse looked at me and said "That's not normal, but you'll be ok."

Yea, idiots. A lot of the bruising is vanishing (although my balls are still black, is that TMI) and I still have a lot of swelling.

I probably got some intern practicing. Managed care, gotta love it.

What were you operated on for?

95 Spirit93  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:22:08am

re: #92 Walter L. Newton

Weet dream, Walter.

96 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:22:44am

Mel! :-)

97 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:22:55am

re: #54 Fenway_Nation

I feel for you. But my Chargers took the Raiders down in the hood. Not saying it was pretty though.

98 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:23:00am

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

Yikes.

I guess if it's going away, it's not too serious. And I can't imagine that you'd let them brush you off if you thought it was serious. ;) Hope it heals up completely, and soon.

99 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:27:57am

I have to scoot in a minute. No time to read the previous thread. Can anyone give me a quick summary? Was there Lizard consensus?

/and how screwed are we?

100 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:30:20am

You all please go take a look at this -

There are a dozen or more on the same theme by the same "theme" by the same guy. Outright lies that Sarah Palin is against Jews, etc. All linked in as "related" to the neat video pasted up top.

101 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:31:16am

re: #20 Sharmuta

Well, if the 0ne's gonna use Katrina anaolgies, I guess there's nothing left to do but stand back and admire 0bama's William Jefferson-like handling of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

102 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:32:03am

re: #99 littleoldlady

I have to scoot in a minute. No time to read the previous thread. Can anyone give me a quick summary? Was there Lizard consensus?

/and how screwed are we?

Little, we are screwed enough that it really makes little difference "how much."

103 RTLM  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:32:03am

re: #99 littleoldlady

I have to scoot in a minute. No time to read the previous thread. Can anyone give me a quick summary? Was there Lizard consensus?

/and how screwed are we?

Oh, not as bad as people think.

:)

104 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:32:14am

re: #54 Fenway_Nation

and last year's between the Rockies and Padres was classic.

OH. and just so we remember.... Holland still hasn't touched the plate.

105 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:37:26am

re: #100 galloping granny

This guy has uploaded 50 videos, and they all have almost the same title. I think there are only about 3 original videos there, he just keeps uploading them over and over. What a freak.

Oh, and I've noticed that on the official McCain ad videos, most of the 'related videos' are ANTI McCain. At least the ones I've watched. I don't know how they set it up, maybe they change or rotate, and I got a bad rotation. Haven't checked Obama's official channel/ads to see if the 'related videos' are anti-Obama yet.

106 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:10am

re: #79 Sharmuta

Promote this link?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

OK, I tried reducing it to 3 signs:

1. Democratic social engineering policies caused our economic crisis. Bush & McCain tried to prevent it in 2003, 2005, & 2007.

2. The same party that caused the problem is now taking credit for the emergency fix that may not even work!

3. The TRUTH about our economic crisis that Democrats & the media are not telling you: (youtube link)

107 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:24am

re: #97 Mel Lono

The NFL awards style points now?

I made it a point to take in as much baseball on the XM radio as I could. Given the nature of the sports broadcast biz and what happened to Skip Caray last month, for all I know, this could be the last time I had a chance to listen to a Harry Kalas, Milo Hamilton or Dave Niehaus call the play-by-play live.

108 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:27am

granny! :-)

RTLM! :-)

Okay. No consensus. ;-)

Shanah Tovah, y'all!
May You Be Written and Sealed for a Good Year, Full of Good Health, Happiness and Prosperity!

Good day, ALL!™

109 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:38:38am

re: #75 redc1c4

So did you hide in the back, away from the scary people, or were you right up in it? :)

110 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:39:19am

re: #104 Mel Lono

OH. and just so we remember.... Holland still hasn't touched the plate.

Holliday?

That's OK. Barrett never had the ball anyways.

111 yochanan  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:41:25am

re: #12 winston06

very nice place, great to look at but a bit pricey went through there by train a few times the train stops there for 2 hours.

112 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:41:59am

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Holliday?

That's OK. Barrett never had the ball anyways.

The story gets better as we age.

113 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:42:02am

re: #105 gop_patriot

This guy has uploaded 50 videos, and they all have almost the same title. I think there are only about 3 original videos there, he just keeps uploading them over and over. What a freak.

Oh, and I've noticed that on the official McCain ad videos, most of the 'related videos' are ANTI McCain. At least the ones I've watched. I don't know how they set it up, maybe they change or rotate, and I got a bad rotation. Haven't checked Obama's official channel/ads to see if the 'related videos' are anti-Obama yet.

What is this - some kind of effort to appear "fair and balanced" you think?

114 yochanan  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:42:50am

re: #108 littleoldlady

granny! :-)

RTLM! :-)

Okay. No consensus. ;-)

Shanah Tovah, y'all!
May You Be Written and Sealed for a Good Year, Full of Good Health, Happiness and Prosperity!

Good day, ALL!™

AND YOU AND YOURS L.O.L.

115 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:42:59am

re: #106 Tigger2005

OK, I tried reducing it to 3 signs:

1. Democratic social engineering policies caused our economic crisis. Bush & McCain tried to prevent it in 2003, 2005, & 2007.

2. The same party that caused the problem is now taking credit for the emergency fix that may not even work!

3. The TRUTH about our economic crisis that Democrats & the media are not telling you: (youtube link)

Awesome! And this way you might be able to still use your window.

116 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:43:57am

re: #108 littleoldlady

granny! :-)

RTLM! :-)

Okay. No consensus. ;-)

Shanah Tovah, y'all!
May You Be Written and Sealed for a Good Year, Full of Good Health, Happiness and Prosperity!

Good day, ALL!™

And to you too Little. Have a wonderful day.

117 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:46:48am

re: #106 Tigger2005

Where's Fox Mulder when we need him? The Truth is out there.........

118 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:47:54am

Good morning, Lizards!

119 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:51:29am

re: #118 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

Morning Goddess. Getting ready for school? What's on the plate today for the kiddies?

120 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:51:59am

re: #118 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning- I hope you had a nice weekend.

121 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:53:52am

{galloping granny}
{Sharmuta}

Today I'm reviewing/introducing grammar concepts to 9th graders--one of my FAVORITE things to teach!

My weekend was meh, but it got better.

122 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:55:05am

I just found this from a big ad linked on the front page (top left no less!) at Ynetnews - maybe some of you folks can use something here -
[Link: www.rjchq.org...]

123 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:55:06am

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

So, since the NL West sucks this year (never a dodger fan), I'm a Cubs fan now. What say you?

124 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:02am

re: #121 goddessoftheclassroom

{galloping granny}
{Sharmuta}

Today I'm reviewing/introducing grammar concepts to 9th graders--one of my FAVORITE things to teach!

My weekend was meh, but it got better.

Grammar - do you use a prepared curriculum or do your own?

125 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:25am

re: #102 galloping granny

Little, we are screwed enough that it really makes little difference "how much."

I refuse to accept that we HAVE to accept being screwed. Americans need to make up their minds that they are not going to take it anymore. We've found it too easy, while times were good or at least not too bad, to let our elected officials get away with murder. If we don't get fully involved in the political process en masse and hold these people accountable, this is what we're going to get. There is a disturbing willingness to give in to despair and hopelessness on this blog, as if people have just given up on democracy and representative government. The bad things about this bill can be changed, fixed, or even removed, even AFTER it has been signed into law, but it will take strong and sustained effort from ALL of us to accomplish this.

As I said on a previous thread, our fathers, grandfathers, great and great-great grandfathers left their farms, businesses, homes, and families to fight and DIE for this country. Yet many of us seem to think it's just too HARD to fight the liberals, the spread of socialism & entitlements, and the culture of corruption and inertia in Washington, when the enemy is not even shooting at us (yet).

126 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:29am

re: #112 Mel Lono

The story gets better as we age.


Especially when the setting moves to the 2007 World Series. Red Sox made it so that it never came down to a solitary play at the plate.

127 akak  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:56:38am

Morning Lizards!

Shana Tova to Jewish scaly ones!

128 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:57:18am

re: #117 Sharmuta

Where's Fox Mulder when we need him? The Truth is out there.........

Fox Mulder would blame it on the aliens and the Cigarette Smoking Man ...

129 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 2:57:59am

re: #123 Mel Lono

So, since the NL West sucks this year (never a dodger fan), I'm a Cubs fan now. What say you?

Oddly enough, I thought the large crimson 'B' that served as my avatar and my screen-name might be a giveaway to where my loyalties lie.

130 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:00:05am

re: #124 galloping granny

Grammar - do you use a prepared curriculum or do your own?

The core concepts for 9th grade are complex sentences with noun, adjective, and adverb clauses: defining, identifying, and creating them. However, since there's been NO continuity in our District's grammar instruction, I start with a comprehensive review to "spackle the cracks," so to speak. I wrote the review myself based on what the 11th graders in the SAT Prep class didn't know,

131 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:00:31am

re: #113 galloping granny

What is this - some kind of effort to appear "fair and balanced" you think?

I wonder! I'm heading to bed now (good Lord it's 5 in the morning), but I might check around YouTube tomorrow, to see what they consider "related videos".

Goodnight, y'all, hope everyone has a great day tomorrow. :)

132 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:00:34am

re: #128 Tigger2005

Fox Mulder would blame it on the aliens and the Cigarette Smoking Man ...

0bama smokes...... coincidence? I think not!

133 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:02:23am

re: #125 Tigger2005

I refuse to accept that we HAVE to accept being screwed. Americans need to make up their minds that they are not going to take it anymore. We've found it too easy, while times were good or at least not too bad, to let our elected officials get away with murder. If we don't get fully involved in the political process en masse and hold these people accountable, this is what we're going to get. There is a disturbing willingness to give in to despair and hopelessness on this blog, as if people have just given up on democracy and representative government. The bad things about this bill can be changed, fixed, or even removed, even AFTER it has been signed into law, but it will take strong and sustained effort from ALL of us to accomplish this.

As I said on a previous thread, our fathers, grandfathers, great and great-great grandfathers left their farms, businesses, homes, and families to fight and DIE for this country. Yet many of us seem to think it's just too HARD to fight the liberals, the spread of socialism & entitlements, and the culture of corruption and inertia in Washington, when the enemy is not even shooting at us (yet).

Now there I could not agree with you more. I just don't think there is any point in trying to quantify how much or little our "representatives" are screwing us over these days. Things have become nasty enough down in DC (and lots of other places too) that quantifying is something like being a little bit pregnant.

One lizard posted last night that he just isn't going to take it anymore. When he goes into the voting booth he is not going to be voting for many incumbents - maybe none at all.

134 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:03:19am

re: #131 gop_patriot

I wonder! I'm heading to bed now (good Lord it's 5 in the morning), but I might check around YouTube tomorrow, to see what they consider "related videos".

Goodnight, y'all, hope everyone has a great day tomorrow. :)

G'night patriot. That would be good if you could.

135 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:03:42am

re: #132 Sharmuta

0bama smokes...... coincidence? I think not!

LOL! Good Monday morning, Shar, and thanks for the spew...how are you today?

136 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:04:46am

OK one more thing before I go. Check your Cadbury chocolates!

Cadbury Recalls Chinese-Made Chocolates, Safety in 'Doubt'

HONG KONG — British chocolate maker Cadbury said Monday tests have "cast doubt" on the safety of its Chinese-made products and ordered a recall, the latest foreign company affected by China's tainted milk scandal.

Tests "cast doubt on the integrity of a range of our products manufactured in China," Cadbury said without elaboration in a statement issued from its office in Singapore.

Yikes.

137 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:05:07am

re: #130 goddessoftheclassroom

The core concepts for 9th grade are complex sentences with noun, adjective, and adverb clauses: defining, identifying, and creating them. However, since there's been NO continuity in our District's grammar instruction, I start with a comprehensive review to "spackle the cracks," so to speak. I wrote the review myself based on what the 11th graders in the SAT Prep class didn't know,

Good for you! (At least your district still has grammar instruction!)

138 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:05:35am

re: #129 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, you're the wild card again. Good Karma. I'm a NL guy so I had to pick a team.

139 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:06:05am

re: #136 gop_patriot

OK one more thing before I go. Check your Cadbury chocolates!

Cadbury Recalls Chinese-Made Chocolates, Safety in 'Doubt'

Yikes.

Cadbury is made in China now? Sheesh - who knew?! Of course Hershey's is moving to Mexico so maybe I shouldn't be too surprised.

140 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:06:52am

re: #135 scottishbuzzsaw

Morning, Scotti- I'm good. How are you?

141 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:13:32am

re: #138 Mel Lono

NL....well, I have a C.C. Sabathia autographed baseball and I got Gabe Kapler's autograph earlier this year- almost got J.J. Hardy's autograph, too, but he bolted to stand on the infield with his teammates as soon as the PA announcer asked everyone to stand for the anthem.

Plus....as someone who had been waiting awhile for good things to happen, you gotta admit that 26 years between playoff appearences is a long time.

It's no 1908, but still.

142 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:14:25am

re: #139 galloping granny


Might be for the Cadbury that's distributed in Hong Kong.

143 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:16:54am

re: #140 Sharmuta

Morning, Scotti- I'm good. How are you?

I'm doing well, sweetie...catching up on the Bailout detail thread...and wondering who has cursed us with "May you live in interesting times." Very interesting indeed...

Did you have a good weekend?

144 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:17:00am

re: #142 Fenway_Nation

Might be for the Cadbury that's distributed in Hong Kong.

Oh, that's true. It never even crossed my mind that Cadbury would be selling chocolates in Hong Kong. :( Coffee must be in order - apparently I am pretty obtuse this morning.

145 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:20:25am

re: #109 gop_patriot

So did you hide in the back, away from the scary people, or were you right up in it? :)

backstage...... (i *am* a scary person.%-)

146 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:24:50am

re: #143 scottishbuzzsaw

My weekend wasn't too bad. Thanks for asking.

147 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:26:24am

Good morning all. And yes, coffee may be a cure for obtuseness. At least I hope to hell it is.

148 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:01am

re: #141 Fenway_Nation

Always laugh at the Dodgers fans when they bring out the last series pennant. What have they done lately? Even a Padres fan can get a rise out of that, just don't call me in the morning. We're golfing.

149 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:06am

Good Morning Lizard Nation.
Well, we have our bail out. According to 60 Minutes last night, Pelosi is the heroine, who protected the public from evil Republicans..

150 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:09am

{Lucius Septimius}!

Good morning! How are you?

151 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:27am

re: #146 Sharmuta

My weekend wasn't too bad. Thanks for asking.

You linked to 'Highway to Hell' in that thread?! LOL!

152 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:27:33am
153 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:28:43am

re: #152 MandyManners

Hershey's not using cocoa butter in many products.

If it's not made with cocoa butter, it's not called "chocolate".

154 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:29:12am

re: #152 MandyManners

Hershey's not using cocoa butter in many products.

That explains why Hershey bars have tasted so nasty of late. I noticed last spring when we started keeping them in the house for S'mores that Hershey barely tasted like chocolate anymore.

155 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:30:27am

re: #150 goddessoftheclassroom

I"m doing ok. Starting Thucydides today in one class; they also have drafts due, so I have a lot of reading to do for the next few days.

How are things up your way?

156 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:31:38am

re: #153 MandyManners

If it's not made with cocoa butter, it's not called "chocolate".

Nope. Sure isn't.

Peter Paul hasn't used it in decades IIRC.

157 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:33:32am

MLB playoff tems are all set except the AL Central.
The White Sox & Twins are like the Undead, they just refuse to die.
Sox down a half game, play Detroit in a make up. If they win ,a one game play in with the Twins in Chicago.

158 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:34:47am

re: #155 Lucius Septimius

I"m doing ok. Starting Thucydides today in one class; they also have drafts due, so I have a lot of reading to do for the next few days.

How are things up your way?

School is going well.

The thing I used to hate most about drafts is that many students didn't make a real effort because they expected me to correct all their mistakes.

Now I give them a rubric checklist of what I'm grading, I check drafts for a thesis statement, supporting topic sentences, and a conclusion and then leave them to it.

College, of course, is very different, The most excruciating thing I remember is my theatre professor READING my paper aloud to me during a conference. Nonetheless, that was a very effective approach, and one of the many advantages of attending a very small college!

159 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:37:28am

re: #158 goddessoftheclassroom

I use a rubric check-list as well -- it has definitely streamlined the process.

I had a professor in college who made us make appointments to pick up our midterms. We sat down and he went through each question I got wrong and asked "why did you write that?"

It was excruciating.

160 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:37:53am

re: #147 Lucius Septimius

Good morning all. And yes, coffee may be a cure for obtuseness. At least I hope to hell it is.

You and me both. It has served me well over the years. One of my daughters is working 60 hours a week and going to college full time to boot - as a physics major no less. When she bemoaned her lack of sleep yesterday I told her that there was a reason that I drank coffee by the gallon from an IV drip when I was doing that: 45 minutes sleep between 2:25 and 3:00 am. LOL

161 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:38:30am
British chocolate maker Cadbury said Monday that tests have "cast doubt" on the safety of its Chinese-made products and ordered a recall, the latest foreign company affected by China's tainted milk scandal.
Meanwhile, two U.S. food makers were investigating Indonesian claims that high traces of melamine were found in Chinese-made Oreos, M&Ms and Snickers.


Thank God they didn't put lead in those products.

My high school figure is already hurting.

162 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:39:42am

We will soon be living in a pretty bad neighborhood. Russia is going to build a nuclear reactor for Venezuela.
We don't have to be concerned though, Chavez says it is just for peaceful use. So, all is well. Uh huh, all that oil & Hugo needs nuclear power.

163 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:41:54am

re: #158 goddessoftheclassroom

School is going well.

The thing I used to hate most about drafts is that many students didn't make a real effort because they expected me to correct all their mistakes.

Now I give them a rubric checklist of what I'm grading, I check drafts for a thesis statement, supporting topic sentences, and a conclusion and then leave them to it.

College, of course, is very different, The most excruciating thing I remember is my theatre professor READING my paper aloud to me during a conference. Nonetheless, that was a very effective approach, and one of the many advantages of attending a very small college!

I don't suppose you would like to pass over that rubric? I'll trade you for the best little guide to logical argument I've come across :)

/A Rulebook for Arguments. Cheap and short. I liked it so well and all of my kids (who are either in college themselves or write for a living) borrowed it so much I went back and ordered a half dozen more copies.

164 unclassifiable  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:42:53am

re: #162 opnion

You can already hear it.

If the U.S. would have talked nicely to Mr. "I smell sulfur" Chavez, this would have not happened.

The Democratic foreign policy brief is simple:

Preemptive surrender will bring peace.

/grabs fruit cup and coffee, grumbles

165 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:43:22am

re: #162 opnion

We will soon be living in a pretty bad neighborhood. Russia is going to build a nuclear reactor for Venezuela.
We don't have to be concerned though, Chavez says it is just for peaceful use. So, all is well. Uh huh, all that oil & Hugo needs nuclear power.

Like I said last night, not to worry. Money crisis will be off the news cycle by Wednesday and Russia was steaming nuclear vessels into our ocean. That is John McCain's bailiwick.

166 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:43:28am

re: #148 Mel Lono


You're a Padres fan- you might appreciate this. I went to all three games of that Red Sox/Padres series at PetCo last year. I had an armload of stuff that I brought with me on the off chance that I might get some of it autographed. As I parked the car, I was listening to the Padres pre-game show and heard that Tony Gwynn was filling in for the regular hosts. I didn't give it much thought until I walked by one of the hotels by the Convention Center. There was the radio station's banner and sure enough, they were doing the pre-game show live from the hotel's bar. While waiting for a commerical break, I dug around a little and pulled out a Rawlins baseball that Tony autographed for me when he wasn't on the air.

Turns out it was the only autograph I was able to get that weekend- Padres or Red Sox.

167 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:44:08am

Study shows that" the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in pseudoscience than evangelical Christians."

This was interesting:


Surprisingly, while increased church attendance and membership in a conservative denomination has a powerful negative effect on paranormal beliefs, higher education doesn't. Two years ago two professors published another study in Skeptical Inquirer showing that, while less than one-quarter of college freshmen surveyed expressed a general belief in such superstitions as ghosts, psychic healing, haunted houses, demonic possession, clairvoyance and witches, the figure jumped to 31% of college seniors and 34% of graduate students.
168 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:44:43am

re: #164 unclassifiable

You can already hear it.

If the U.S. would have talked nicely to Mr. "I smell sulfur" Chavez, this would have not happened.

The Democratic foreign policy brief is simple:

Preemptive surrender will bring peace.

/grabs fruit cup and coffee, grumbles


Probably. Obama blamed the Russian invasion of Georgia, on the US setting a "Bad Example" in Iraq.

169 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:45:03am

re: #161 ibmkeyboard

Thank God they didn't put lead in those products.

My high school figure is already hurting.

Oh boy! I guess all the kiddies will be getting little cans of playdoh or cute pencils at our house this Halloween.

/So glad the daughter is allergic to chocolate!

170 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:45:12am

re: #163 galloping granny

Here are my grading standards.

171 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:45:38am

re: #162 opnion

We will soon be living in a pretty bad neighborhood. Russia is going to build a nuclear reactor for Venezuela.
We don't have to be concerned though, Chavez says it is just for peaceful use. So, all is well. Uh huh, all that oil & Hugo needs nuclear power.

Just hope they don't let the Three Stooges operate it like in Chernobyl.

When do the centrifuges start spinning?

172 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:46:15am

re: #165 galloping granny

Like I said last night, not to worry. Money crisis will be off the news cycle by Wednesday and Russia was steaming nuclear vessels into our ocean. That is John McCain's bailiwick.


Barry will need another bracelet. This time he should memorize the name.

173 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:47:02am

re: #170 Lucius Septimius

Here are my grading standards.

Super! Thanks Lucius. Do you mind if I print out a copy for the kiddo?

174 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:47:25am

Italian bloggers are up in arms at a court ruling early this year that suggests almost all Italian blogs are illegal. This month, a senior Italian politician went one step further, warning that most web activity is likely to be against the law.

The story begins back in May, when a judge in Modica (in Sicily) found local historian and author Carlo Ruta guilty of the crime of "stampa clandestina" – or publishing a "clandestine" newspaper – in respect of his blog. The judge ruled that since the blog had a headline, that made it an online newspaper, and brought it within the law’s remit.

The penalties for this crime are not onerous: A fine of 250 Euros or a prison sentence of up to two years. Carlo Ruta was fined and ordered to take down his site, which has now been replaced by a blank page, headed "Site under construction", and a link directing surfers to his new site. Hardly serious stuff – except that he now has a criminal record, and his original site has disappeared.

The offence has its origins in 1948, when in apparent contradiction of Article 21 of the Italian Constitution guaranteeing the right to free expression, a law was passed requiring publishers to register officially before setting up a new publication. The intention, in the immediate aftermath of Fascism, may have been to regulate partisan and extremist publications. The effect was to introduce into Italian society a highly centrist and bureaucratic approach to freedom of the Press.

A further twist to this tale took place in 2001, with the realisation that existing laws were inadequate to deal with the internet. Instead of liberalising, the Italian Government sought to bring the internet into the same framework as traditional print media. Law 62, passed in March 2001, introduces the concept of "stampa clandestina" to the internet.

SNIP

175 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:48:10am

re: #169 galloping granny

Oh boy! I guess all the kiddies will be getting little cans of playdoh or cute pencils at our house this Halloween.

/So glad the daughter is allergic to chocolate!

I wish mine were.
We just checked a Dollar General candy bar,

Made In China.

sheeesh!

176 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:49:12am

re: #173 galloping granny

No problemo.

Most of the info in there comes from many years of reading papers, as well as my own student experience. Nearly all of the comments in the "composition" section are based on comments I received on papers.

177 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:49:42am

re: #160 galloping granny

45 minutes sleep between 2:25 and 3:00 am. LOL

You mean you're so accelerated by the coffee that you get 45 minutes sleep in a 35 minute interval?

178 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:49:43am
179 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:50:18am

re: #169 galloping granny

Oh boy! I guess all the kiddies will be getting little cans of playdoh or cute pencils at our house this Halloween.

/So glad the daughter is allergic to chocolate!


Kids just love a scoop of ice cream in their trick or treat bags!

180 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:50:27am

re: #178 galloping granny

Reason 24, 973 to be so very grateful that I was born and live in the United States of America!

As soon as Barry Hussein is elected, that benefit will cease to exist. Count on it.

181 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:50:53am

re: #168 opnion

Probably. Obama blamed the Russian invasion of Georgia, on the US setting a "Bad Example" in Iraq.

Eeeeek. This guy is truly scary.

182 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:51:41am

re: #177 Moe Katz

You mean you're so accelerated by the coffee that you get 45 minutes sleep in a 35 minute interval?

That too - though inability to function as yet is a product of lack of caffeine. I'm not motivated enough to get out of the chair.

/That heavens it was you who caught my lousy addition and not the kiddo! I guess I had better get a move on before I start teaching math. Usually works best if you actually know something about what you're teaching.

183 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:52:42am

re: #181 Moe Katz

Eeeeek. This guy is truly scary.

He thinks that we need to be punished & Michelle agrees.

184 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:53:00am

Time to get ready to go to work. Long day ahead of me.

Later, all.

185 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:53:13am

re: #180 Lucius Septimius

As soon as Barry Hussein is elected, that benefit will cease to exist. Count on it.

I'm hoping that the signs of rebellion I keep seeing and hearing are going to result in an awful lot of incumbents out on their ears and a big surprise for Barry concerning his moving plans.

186 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:54:17am

re: #182 galloping granny

That too - though inability to function as yet is a product of lack of caffeine. I'm not motivated enough to get out of the chair.

/That heavens it was you who caught my lousy addition and not the kiddo! I guess I had better get a move on before I start teaching math. Usually works best if you actually know something about what you're teaching.

I've actually been admiring your intellect on these early morning posts, this glitch notwithstanding. Pity we're on different cycles.

187 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:56:03am

re: #183 opnion

He thinks that we need to be punished & Michelle agrees.

There was some sort of collective guilt thing with Carter too. The result may be similar national acts of self-abasement.

188 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:57:43am

re: #174 MandyManners

I'm sure that hag Sgrena's Il Manifesto rag would be exempt if it had a blog.

189 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:58:22am

re: #186 Moe Katz

I've actually been admiring your intellect on these early morning posts, this glitch notwithstanding. Pity we're on different cycles.

Why thank you! My cycle tends to change some with the season so maybe we'll run into each other more often.

190 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 3:58:46am

re: #187 Moe Katz

There was some sort of collective guilt thing with Carter too. The result may be similar national acts of self-abasement.

Yeah, Carter somehow thought that we needed some sort of weird cleansing. Instead of solving problems, he liked to lecture.
The Obamas seem to be another degreee. There are racial & class warfare components.

191 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:00:05am

re: #189 galloping granny

Why thank you! My cycle tends to change some with the season so maybe we'll run into each other more often.

Let's hope so. I just woke up because my nose got too stuffed up from this sinus cold. I'll be heading back to bed for now.

192 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:00:09am
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Sunday his Republican rival John McCain deserves no credit for helping to forge a tentative agreement on the $700 billion bailout of Wall Street.


With about 90 percent of voters against this bailout,

I guess McCain should appreciate comments like that.

193 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:01:17am

re: #183 opnion

He thinks that we need to be punished & Michelle agrees.

My husband and I, over the weekend, were trying to remember the last time the liberal/left acted in America's best interest...we went back a few decades and came up empty handed.

194 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:02:19am

re: #193 scottishbuzzsaw

My husband and I, over the weekend, were trying to remember the last time the liberal/left acted in America's best interest...we went back a few decades and came up empty handed.

Maybe all of the way back to FDR?

195 Crux Australis  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:02:35am

My take on Obama -

He's like a used car salesman who is trying to sell you a car that isn't quite right and he lies through his teeth in the process.

196 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:02:46am

re: #192 ibmkeyboard

With about 90 percent of voters against this bailout,

I guess McCain should appreciate comments like that.

That is a good way to look at it.

197 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:04:17am

If you do not feel good about the bailout, buck up,
Nancy Pelosi calls it a 'Buy in." See, thats better.

198 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:05:49am

I hope Gov. Palin jacks up Biden on economics and the DNC's role in this crisis.

199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:06:09am

Howdy my Lizard friends.

200 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:06:22am

re: #188 Fenway_Nation

I'm sure that hag Sgrena's Il Manifesto rag would be exempt if it had a blog.

I have no idea what that's about.

201 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:06:32am

Jesus Christ ... I know this guy is selling something, but this is such scary shit I nearly crapped my pants.

Since first warning my subscribers to follow the smart money fleeing the dollar more than three years ago, the greenback has lost 40% of its value against gold. Now I am issuing a Four-Point Storm Warning Alert: Make Preparations Now, or Face Becoming A Pauper Overnight!
National bankruptcy and financial chaos are here. The politicians are preparing a draconian emergency response which will loot your assets and seriously undermine your freedom...
You need a plan. NOW!
We face a financial implosion of the American Dream on a scale that truly dwarfs the gas shock and out-of-control inflation of the '70s...
...the Savings and Loan failures of the '80s and '90s...
...or any other financial crisis our nation has faced since the Great Depression itself!
You know big trouble is brewing when top federal Comptroller General (David Walker) recently quit in frustration because as our government's top accountant had warned in vain – the nation's finances are going over a cliff and no one is acting to stop it...
...or a recent finding by the Congressional Budget Office that the federal insolvency crisis is so deep every U.S. household would have to cough up half-a-million dollars each just to save the federal government from bankruptcy! (And, as I show you shortly, the financial debt leverage of U.S. consumers themselves is even more scary.)
Now the word "Depression" is a strong term. But the "D-word" is exactly what's being bandied about by a surprising number of experts. Read on, because I name names!
Look Who Also Sees a
"Perfect Economic Storm" Building
A significant number of former high-level U.S. officials share my alarm that a "perfect storm" of financial woes are finally starting to catch up with the U.S. economy.
Unfortunately, because so many of these former insiders are no longer in a position of authority, the mainstream financial media rarely quote their blunt statements about dark storm clouds building over our economy.
For example, Former Treasury official (and now columnist) Paul Craig Roberts, recently said "Financially the U.S. is not an independent country... the U.S. is bankrupt."
Very recently, former Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Paul Volcker stunned conferees of the prestigious New York Economic Club with this comment about the emerging dollar and bankruptcy crisis, "You don't have to predict it. We're in it."
High-profile international capital giants such as Barclays Capital are now advising their elite clientele to "batten down the hatches for a worldwide financial storm." Departing from its typically diplomatic tone, Barclays Capital added that the U.S. Federal Reserve has allowed the inflation genie out of its bottle and let its credibility fall "below zero."
My name is Lee Bellinger, publisher of the monthly financial, health, and taxation intelligence advisory Independent Living. In my two decades of publishing discreet information about government threats to your liberty, health, and prosperity, never have we produced as important a document as my best-selling new mega-manual, The National Bankruptcy Survival Guide: Everything You Need to Invest Wisely, Live Comfortably, and Retire Worry-Free During the Coming Inflationary Depression.

202 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:07:21am

re: #195 Crux Australis

My take on Obama -

He's like a used car salesman who is trying to sell you a car that isn't quite right and he lies through his teeth in the process.

Funny, that's the first thing that came to my mind when he stepped onto the national stage...

203 Crux Australis  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:08:31am

re: #193 scottishbuzzsaw

When has the liberal/left ever done anything in their own countries interest?

It seems to be a global epidemic unfortunately.

204 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:12:30am

re: #203 Crux Australis

When has the liberal/left ever done anything in their own countries interest?

It seems to be a global epidemic unfortunately.

Yes, it does. Very similar to how the progressive/fascist movement in the early 20th century was a world-wide event...this is not comforting.

205 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:14:05am

re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Howdy my Lizard friends.

Good morning, FBV...how are you today?

206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:14:13am

re: #201 Tigger2005

Hey Tigger. Where is this available?

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:25am

re: #205 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, FBV...how are you today?

Still a little "groggy". Dog didn't seem to have any problem going right back to sleep. Me? Sitting on the couch with you, so I must be fine.

208 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:27am

From a link up top that is at best disturbing -

The administration tells us that the government is going to make money for the taxpayers on this deal. Really? I think, by most measures, that is called socialism. It has failed every time it has been tried. Capitalism fails when it evolves toward socialism. I would defy anyone to show me a financial deal in which the federal government bought property cheaper from a ready willing and able seller or sold property for more than a ready, willing and able seller could have than a private entity.

[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

209 Crux Australis  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:43am

Would you believe that 2 networks in Australia are televising the VP debate. They aren't televising the Presidential debates.

I wonder why not?

210 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:46am

re: #201 Tigger2005

Link?

211 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:15:59am

Killgore's Vacation update (for those who give a shit).....
Still in Mauririus having a nice time. I stopped my another mosque today in Grand Bai. Very large, very new, very loud call to prayer. There was a little kiosk out front so I stopped to look. They had a pile of DVD sermons from Khalid Yasin for abot $3 each. I picked out a few ("Issues deviding the Ummah" and "Islam and the Media"). When I went to give the guy his money he said, "not for you" and took the DVDs from me.

Other than that the Mauritians are mostly Hindu, very shy and practical buisiness like people. Friendly, helpful but not overly polite ass kissers. The fish are freshand women are slim, beatiful and modest.

I have the Nipple Song stuck in my head.

212 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:16:29am

re: #210 MandyManners

Hey Mandy! Whodathunk Tigger was a big shot publisher?

213 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:16:37am

re: #209 Crux Australis

Would you believe that 2 networks in Australia are televising the VP debate. They aren't televising the Presidential debates.

I wonder why not?

Gov. Palin.

214 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:18:02am

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Why did he take them from you? Because you don't "look" Muslim?

Have a great and safe time!

215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:18:34am

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Keep safe Kilgore. Come back to us.

216 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:19:13am

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Wow! Not for infidels! What a wonderful religion of tolerance!

217 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:19:37am

re: #211 Killgore Trout

And of course some of us give a shit.

218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:20:22am

re: #216 Sharmuta

Wow! Not for infidels! What a wonderful religion of tolerance!

Perhaps he thought KT looked a bit, uh, shall we say, "un-terrorist".

219 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:20:41am

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Killgore's Vacation update (for those who give a shit).....
Still in Mauririus having a nice time. I stopped my another mosque today in Grand Bai. Very large, very new, very loud call to prayer. There was a little kiosk out front so I stopped to look. They had a pile of DVD sermons from Khalid Yasin for abot $3 each. I picked out a few ("Issues deviding the Ummah" and "Islam and the Media"). When I went to give the guy his money he said, "not for you" and took the DVDs from me.

Other than that the Mauritians are mostly Hindu, very shy and practical buisiness like people. Friendly, helpful but not overly polite ass kissers. The fish are freshand women are slim, beatiful and modest.

I have the Nipple Song stuck in my head.

How very strange. Too bad there isn't someone you can send down to buy those DVDs for you.

/I wonder what is on them the guy is trying to hide?

220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:22:37am

Uh, thanks KT. Now I have the "Nipple Song" stuck in my head too. That is hysterical!

221 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:22:39am

re: #211 Killgore Trout

Khalid Yasin's a Twoofer.

There has been no evidence that has surfaced, no bona fide irrevocable, irrefutable evidence that had been surfaced that showed that there is a group called al-Qa'ida that did the September 11 bombings. I'm of the opinion there was a rogue operation that took place. Now, to go beyond that would say I would have to have some evidence, which I don't... An operation that took place with the complicity of some very sophisticated entities other than some middle aged, Middle Eastern guys on an airplane, or being orchestrated by someone in a cave in Iraq with a walkie-talkie.[11]

Regarding the collapse of the World Trade Center following the impacts from the Aircraft, Yasin stated that "We now know that the way that the World Trade Center fell the way that those buildings fell — they seem like they fell from internal explosive charges, the same way it's done in a construction site."[11]

Maybe I've missed him but, I had not idea who this American was.

222 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:22:57am

re: #151 scottishbuzzsaw

You linked to 'Highway to Hell' in that thread?! LOL!

Hell Yes!

223 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:23:55am

re: #206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Tigger. Where is this available?

It was from GOPUSA Business E-mail List.

[Link: store.americanlanternpress.com...]

224 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:24:40am

re: #219 galloping granny

How very strange. Too bad there isn't someone you can send down to buy those DVDs for you.

/I wonder what is on them the guy is trying to hide?

I wonder if there's a bell-boy wanting to make a tidy tip.

225 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:24:57am

re: #214 MandyManners

I'm pretty sure he knew what I was looking for in those DVD's. I didn't recognize the name at the time (I had to google when I got back to the house). Now I'm really sorry he wouldn't sell them to me. I strongly suspect the Mosques here are Wahabi funded.

226 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:25:20am

re: #224 MandyManners

I wonder if there's a bell-boy wanting to make a tidy tip.

I did find the "Islam and the Media" DVD on Youtube.

227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:26:08am

re: #210 MandyManners

Link?

Mandy, closest link I could find...

228 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:26:09am

re: #221 MandyManners

I think we've had threads on him before and I think he was featured in the first "Undercover Mosque" episode.

229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:05am

re: #223 Tigger2005

It was from GOPUSA Business E-mail List.

[Link: store.americanlanternpress.com...]

Wait a minute. Tigger? You not Lee Bellinger?

230 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:12am

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Send someone to buy them for you!

231 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:18am

re: #226 galloping granny

I did find the "Islam and the Media" DVD on Youtube.

Let me guess: The Jooos control the media?

232 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:27:57am

re: #230 MandyManners

I'm not sure it's worth it. The videos are probably available online for free.

233 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:28:54am

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Let me guess: The Jooos control the media?

It is pretty long - cut up in parts - so I haven't listened to it.

234 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:29:12am

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're welcome.
;)

235 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:29:15am

re: #232 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure it's worth it. The videos are probably available online for free.

Well, I'm stubborn enough to resort to Lucy-levels to get something when I'm refused.

236 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:29:19am

So, I just sent my sister who thinks she wants to vote for Obama this link - [Link: www.barackobamatest.com...]

237 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:30:07am

re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait a minute. Tigger? You not Lee Bellinger?

Seriously, I thought you have made that post of of desperation. Thought you had gone "Jim Cramer" on us.

238 jim in virginia  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:31:00am

Morning all. Looks like a lovely day here in the DC 'burbs. Weekend rains are gone, sun is rising.
Lucius! Long time no see. How are the kiddos?

239 Tamron  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:31:52am

QUESTION: Why does the recently passed housing bill have a hidden provision requiring that ALL credit card transactions in the US, be reported to the IRS?

H.R. 3221, the “Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008,” passed the House on July 23, 2008 by a vote of 272-152. On July 26, 2008 the Senate passed the bill by a vote of 72-13. The President signed the bill on July 30, 2008.

Hidden deep in Senator Christopher Dodd's 630-page Senate housing legislation [HR 3221] is a sweeping provision that affects the privacy and operation of nearly all of America's small businesses.

As FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey commented: "This is a provision with astonishing reach, and it was slipped into the bill just this week. Not only does it affect nearly every credit card transaction in America, such as Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express, but the bill specifically targets payment systems like eBay's PayPal, Amazon, and Google Checkout that are used by many small online businesses. The privacy implications for America's small businesses are breathtaking."

From the Senate Bill Summary:

Payment Card and Third Party Network Information Reporting. The proposal requires information reporting on payment card and third party network transactions. Payment settlement entities, including merchant acquiring banks and third party settlement organizations, or third party payment facilitators acting on their behalf, will be required to report the annual gross amount of reportable transactions to the IRS and to the participating payee.

Reportable transactions include any payment card transaction and any third party network transaction. Participating payees include persons who accept a payment card as payment and third party networks who accept payment from a third party settlement organization in settlement of transactions.

A payment card means any card issued pursuant to an agreement or arrangement which provides for standards and mechanisms for settling the transactions. Use of an account number or other indicia associated with a payment card will be treated in the same manner as a payment card. A de minimis exception for transactions of $10,000 or less and 200 transactions or less applies to payments by third party settlement organizations.

The proposal applies to returns for calendar years beginning after December 31, 2010. Back-up withholding provisions apply to amounts paid after December 31, 2011. This proposal is estimated to raise $9.802 billion over ten years.


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240 jim in virginia  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:33:32am

re: #190 opnion

Yeah, Carter somehow thought that we needed some sort of weird cleansing.


"Cleansing" reminds me of colonoscopy prep, and the fact that some people pay for spa treatments that include that

241 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:35:42am

re: #239 Tamron

the bill specifically targets payment systems like eBay's PayPal, Amazon, and Google Checkout that are used by many small online businesses. The privacy implications for America's small businesses are breathtaking.

Wow! Why is this the government's business? How much tax money will be used to keep track of this? How many trees will die for the paper-work?

242 quickjustice  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:36:45am

re: #201 Tigger2005

Uh, respectfully, we're already over the cliff and in mid-air. The only question right now is, how hard a landing will it be?

That fear-monger is WAY too late. The only thing that could have avoided this was a degree of self-denial, self-discipline, and fiscal integrity not encouraged in consumer societies.

Time to pay the piper after a long collective binge. The good news: we can and will do it!

243 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:37:56am

I looks like Pres. Bush got some sleep this weekend. He looked like shit last week.

244 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:39:42am

re: #242 quickjustice

Uh, respectfully, we're already over the cliff and in mid-air.

I'm reminded of Calvin and Hobbes in their red wagaon.

245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:40:01am

To the tune of

"Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home."

Be it ever so crumbly;
There's no place like Rome.
Nero He was the ruler;
And the palace was his home.
But, he liked to play with matches;
And for a fire he yearned.
So he burned Rome to ashes;
And fiddled while it burned.

Bugs Bunny was a freakin' Nostradamus. And we've got a freakin' pile of Neros.

246 quickjustice  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:42:02am

re: #243 MandyManners

It's tough to keep all the balls in the air. He finally got Iraq right, only to have the economy tank. He's not personally to blame, but we all were distracted from the economy by the furious fight over the Iraq insurgency and the rosy reports coming out of the financial press.

247 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:44:47am

Right-wing parties make big gains in Austria

If we have to re-invade these pricks again I'm really gonna be pissed.

248 3 wood  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:46:59am

Well the early markets are dumping out anyway.

Looks like a hard fall is going to happen, folks.

Best advice I can give is take the long run view, keep working if you can, don't go into anymore debt, and hang on.

I still think some of the downfall could be softened if the eliminated the "mark to market" requirement.

Also, if the FDIC would raise the insurance limit on deposits to $1 that should stop some of the cash run going on against the banks.

But at this point, with all the bad news and all the screwing around by Congress and finger pointing, you have a stampede going on.

Good luck and hang in there.

249 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:47:42am

This whole mess is playing into Obama's playbook. He comes across as" I told you the GOP isn't capable of handling the economy". In the meantime, we have McCain unable (for what reason I can't image) to attach the democrats for their hand in this. He needs to yell loud and clear. Start naming names, McCain or you are toast!
what is he waiting for? If he makes a big enough stink, the MSM will have to show it and maybe, just maybe, the truth can trickle out.

250 3 wood  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:48:04am

I mean to raise the FDIC insurance to $1 million

251 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:48:33am

ACORN on Fox. James Perry calls it corrupt and that it will benefit from the crisis that it helped create.

When will Fox mention BHO and his representation of ACORN?

252 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:48:57am

re: #246 quickjustice

It's tough to keep all the balls in the air. He finally got Iraq right, only to have the economy tank. He's not personally to blame, but we all were distracted from the economy by the furious fight over the Iraq insurgency and the rosy reports coming out of the financial press.

It must be the toughest job in the world.

253 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:51:23am

re: #248 3 wood

Well the early markets are dumping out anyway.

Looks like a hard fall is going to happen, folks.

Best advice I can give is take the long run view, keep working if you can, don't go into anymore debt, and hang on.

I still think some of the downfall could be softened if the eliminated the "mark to market" requirement.

Also, if the FDIC would raise the insurance limit on deposits to $1 that should stop some of the cash run going on against the banks.

But at this point, with all the bad news and all the screwing around by Congress and finger pointing, you have a stampede going on.

Good luck and hang in there.

If this is going to happen anyway maybe they should just skip the bailout. . . . yeah, right.

254 Tamron  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:51:25am

THE UNKNOWN 20 TRILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
by Flemming Funch
2003-10-30

There is a busy little private company you probably never have heard about, but which you should. Its name is the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation. See their website. Looks pretty boring. Some kind of financial service thing, with a positive slogan and out there to make a little business. You can even get a job there. Now, go and take a look at their annual report. Starts with a nice litte Flash presentation and has a nice message from the CEO. And take a look at the numbers. It turns out that this company holds 23 trillion dollars in assets, and had 917 trillion dollars worth of transactions in 2002. That's trillions, as in thousands of thousands of millions. 23,000,000,000,000 dollars in assets.

As it so turns out, it is not because DTCC has a nice website and says good things about saving their customers money that they are trusted with that kind of resources. Rather it is because they seem to have a monopoly on what they do. In brief, they process the vast majority of all stock transactions in the United States as well as for many other countries. And - and that's the real interesting part - 99% of all stocks in the U.S. appear to be legally owned by them.

In the old days, when you owned stocks you would have the stock certificates lying in your safe. And if you needed to trade them, you needed to get them shipped off to a broker. Nowadays that would be considered very cumbersome, and it would be impractical to invest via computer or over the phone. So the shortcut was invented that the broker would hold your stocks instead of you. And in order for him to legally be able to trade them for you, the stocks were placed under their "street name". I.e. they're in the name of the brokerage, but they're just holding them in trust and trading them for you. And you're in reality the beneficiary rather than the owner. Which is all fine and dandy if everything goes right. Now, it appears the rules were then changed so the brokers are not allowed any longer to put the stocks in their own name. Instead, what they typically do is to put the stocks into the name of "Cede and Company" or "Cede & Co" or some such variation. And the broker might tell you that it is just a fictitious name, and will explain why it is really more practical to do that than to put it in your name.

The problem with that is that it appears that Cede isn't just some dummy name, but an actual corporation that DTCC controls. And, well, if you ask anybody about this, who actually knows about it, they will naturally tell you that it is all a formality. To serve you better, of course. And, well, maybe it is. DTCC seems like a nice and friendly company. It is a private company, owned by the same people (major U.S. banks) who own the Federal Reserve Bank. And if they all stick to their job, and just keep the money and your stocks flowing smoothly, I'm sure that is all well and good. But if somebody at some point should decide otherwise, and there's a national U.S. emergency and/or the U.S. government becomes unable to pay its debts, well, they might just not give you your stocks back. Because legally they own them. Something to think about.


(Reminder: This article was written in 2003)
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255 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:55:11am

Fox is the only one on the TV that is talking about ACORN, and just like the web...we are preaching to the choir. It will take something "newsworthy", like a press statement from McCain or someone that can pull the critical media's attention.

Hummm...maybe someone like Sarah? Let her loose, John!

256 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:55:20am

re: #249 Beach Lover

This whole mess is playing into Obama's playbook. He comes across as" I told you the GOP isn't capable of handling the economy". In the meantime, we have McCain unable (for what reason I can't image) to attach the democrats for their hand in this. He needs to yell loud and clear. Start naming names, McCain or you are toast!
what is he waiting for? If he makes a big enough stink, the MSM will have to show it and maybe, just maybe, the truth can trickle out.

Maybe he is waiting to get people on records with their vote. Especially Barry, who announced he was leaving DC and didn't intend to vote unless they needed him. That was early yesterday or the night before.

Late yesterday Nancy Pelosi stated that those who had conflicts of interest with this legislation should not vote.

Leaving us with only two choices -

1.) Barry didn't bother to cast a vote, therefor he admits that he has conflicts of interest in the matter (now there is some ammunition!)

2.) Barry has to vote up or down and take the responsibility for his vote. No coming back later shoving the responsibility off to someone else.

Win/win by the way I see it.

257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 4:55:34am

re: #252 MandyManners

It must be the toughest job in the world.

As hard as it appears to be, from the way people are killing themselves trying to get the job, (whispering) "I don't think they know." Shhhh.

258 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:00:05am

re: #257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

As hard as it appears to be, from the way people are killing themselves trying to get the job, (whispering) "I don't think they know." Shhhh.

BHO might think that it'll be easy for him 'cause he has 300 advisers.

259 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:01:27am

"I've got a bracelet, too."

Punk.

260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:01:30am

re: #258 MandyManners

300 is only as a candidate. Imagine how many if he wins (shudder).

261 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:01:45am

re: #256 galloping granny
maybe...bet Obama will not vote until he sees how McCain votes. Oh I would love for McCain to vote against this bill. In fact, all the pubbies should vote against it. The bill would have passed long ago if the dems had really wanted it to, they have enough votes without the pubbies. I think Boehner opened the door for it when he said for his fellow Republican's the vote their conscience.

262 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:02:00am

re: #254 Tamron

I red-hearted that.

263 Tamron  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:02:36am

re: #258 MandyManners

BHO might think that it'll be easy for him 'cause he has 300 advisers.

--And 30 teleprompter operators.
.

264 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:02:41am

re: #260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

300 is only as a candidate. Imagine how many if he wins (shudder).

I wonder if Soros will get the Lincoln bedroom.

265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:04:29am

re: #264 MandyManners

I wonder if Soros will get the Lincoln bedroom.

Or the west wing.

266 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:04:34am

re: #264 MandyManners

I wonder if Soros will get the Lincoln bedroom.

I believe Soros already has plans to redecorate it...;>) Hmmm...what would be his style?

267 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:04:41am

re: #258 MandyManners
And he doesn't need foreign policy expertise becasue he has Joe Biden.

268 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:05:53am

re: #264 MandyManners

I wonder if Soros will get the Lincoln bedroom.

nah, nah, nah! It will be renamed the Reverend Wright Bedroom.

269 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:09:22am

re: #261 Beach Lover

maybe...bet Obama will not vote until he sees how McCain votes. Oh I would love for McCain to vote against this bill. In fact, all the pubbies should vote against it. The bill would have passed long ago if the dems had really wanted it to, they have enough votes without the pubbies. I think Boehner opened the door for it when he said for his fellow Republican's the vote their conscience.

If only 25% of Americans support this bill, it might well be that Dems do not have enough votes without the Republicans. Ultimately, those congress-critters work for the citizens of their home states - not the Democrat party. I suspect it has been made more than clear to some of them that they had best not vote for the thing if they want to stay in Congress.

270 legalpad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:12:10am

re: #247 Killgore Trout

You know, I've always wondered exactly why the Nazi's were considered "right-wing". Is it because they hated communists? Can't dictators hate each other? After all right wing here means no abortions, keep your guns, go to church, work hard, save your money. As far as I am concerned if somebody doesn't want you to have guns, whatever else they think, they are not right-wing.

271 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:14:17am

OH MY GOD! Here is the October Surprise folks - right on time. From Obama's own "Fight the Smears" website -

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

The Obama site cites FactCheck.Org -

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

Which means he cannot be POTUS - not natural born!

272 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:18:03am

Gotta' roust The Kid and get his day going. bbl

273 vxbush  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:18:06am

re: #271 galloping granny

OH MY GOD! Here is the October Surprise folks - right on time. From Obama's own "Fight the Smears" website -

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

The Obama site cites FactCheck.Org -

Which means he cannot be POTUS - not natural born!

Except he was born in Hawaii, which was, I believe, a part of the US at that time. Born on American soil, therefore an American.

Sorry, granny. Oh, and morning, everyone.

274 vxbush  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:19:38am

And....I've killed the thread.

275 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:19:50am

re: #273 vxbush

Oh, and morning, everyone.

Good morning...

276 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:21:31am

re: #270 legalpad

As far as I am concerned if somebody doesn't want you to have guns, whatever else they think, they are not right-wing.

There are different kinds of conservatism. It's not all on a single continuum.

277 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:21:48am

Good morning Lizards...........

278 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:22:18am

re: #273 vxbush

Except he was born in Hawaii, which was, I believe, a part of the US at that time. Born on American soil, therefore an American.

Sorry, granny. Oh, and morning, everyone.

Nope. A child of one US Citizen and One Kenyan citizen - no matter where he was born - was in 1961 a DUAL citizen. (As they would be today.) You cannot be a DUAL citizen and be natural born for the purposes of being POTUS.

Further, under the rules in place at the time Obama was born, when he turned 18 he had to choose his nation of citizenship and renounce citizenship in the other nation. Making him a naturalized citizen. If he did not renounce his Kenyan citizenship then he might very well not affirmed his US citizenship (which he also had to do.) Which might mean that he is not actually a citizen of anywhere, both citizenships having expired when he turned 21.

279 Edgar  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:23:24am

re: #270 legalpad

You know, I've always wondered exactly why the Nazi's were considered "right-wing".

European right-wing is a lot different than American right-wing.

Just shows how vague these terms are...

280 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:23:39am

re: #277 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards...........

Mornin' dorian...

281 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:23:47am

morning cuz ;) re: #275 scottishbuzzsaw

282 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:24:05am

hiya dorian

283 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:24:35am

re: #281 ratso

morning cuz ;)

Mornin' cuz...how are you today?

284 Edgar  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:24:36am

re: #278 galloping granny

Which might mean that he is not actually a citizen of anywhere, both citizenships having expired when he turned 21.

Maybe he's from Vatican City.

285 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:25:16am

re: #280 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' dorian...

Good morning scottishmarshmallow..... ;)

286 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:25:22am

re: #278 galloping granny

Nope. A child of one US Citizen and One Kenyan citizen - no matter where he was born - was in 1961 a DUAL citizen. (As they would be today.) You cannot be a DUAL citizen and be natural born for the purposes of being POTUS.

Further, under the rules in place at the time Obama was born, when he turned 18 he had to choose his nation of citizenship and renounce citizenship in the other nation. Making him a naturalized citizen. If he did not renounce his Kenyan citizenship then he might very well not affirmed his US citizenship (which he also had to do.) Which might mean that he is not actually a citizen of anywhere, both citizenships having expired when he turned 21.

Seems to good to be true, but I am going with you. That would be hilarious &Bgreat foer the Republic.

287 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:25:43am

re: #283 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' cuz...how are you today?


just marvolus darlink, how I love these fall mornings nice to be alive.

288 Miss Trixie  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:26:01am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

A cloudy drizzly day in the valley with no hope of sinshine for the rest of the week. So it goes.

Awfully busy at work today so this is a quick drive-by and hope I can pop back in later.

{realwest} Morning, cupcake! *smoochie* *huggles* Hope you're feeling fine today and you're in my thoughts as always.

See yez.

289 Edgar  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:05am

re: #286 opnion

Seems to good to be true, but I am going with you. That would be hilarious &Bgreat foer the Republic.

It's pretty unlikely we would be the first to notice such a discrepancy. Must be an explanation for how it worked out.

290 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:16am

re: #286 opnion
I love it but whats the odds of it going anywhere?

291 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:19am

re: #288 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪

A cloudy drizzly day in the valley with no hope of sinshine for the rest of the week. So it goes.

Awfully busy at work today so this is a quick drive-by and hope I can pop back in later.

{realwest} Morning, cupcake! *smoochie* *huggles* Hope you're feeling fine today and you're in my thoughts as always.

See yez.

Oh my... It was a run by fruiting.....

292 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:27:54am

re: #284 Edgar

Maybe he's from Vatican City.

Well, if he was born in a manger in Bethlehem, that complicates the citizenship.

293 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:28:18am

re: #285 doriangrey

Good morning scottishmarshmallow..... ;)

I suppose that means you want some coffee? Here...;>)

294 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:28:43am

re: #290 ratso

I love it but whats the odds of it going anywhere?

Somewhere between zero and absolutely no fucking way you racists pig.....

295 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:28:54am

re: #290 ratso

I love it but whats the odds of it going anywhere?

Not gonna happen.

296 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:29:14am

re: #293 scottishbuzzsaw

I suppose that means you want some coffee? Here...;>)

Why thank you cuttie pie.... ;)

297 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:29:44am

re: #294 doriangrey
dorian? what was that marked out thingy there?

298 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:30:03am

re: #287 ratso

just marvolus darlink, how I love these fall mornings nice to be alive.

Glad to hear you're doing well...autumn is my favorite time of year...any Bailey's this morning or are we suppose to behave?

299 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:30:18am

re: #297 ratso

dorian? what was that marked out thingy there?

Channeling the Obama supporters.... ;P

300 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:00am

re: #298 scottishbuzzsaw

Glad to hear you're doing well...autumn is my favorite time of year...any Bailey's this morning or are we suppose to behave?


ya know, I have a wee bit in my coffee here at this moment :) Missed ya saturday by the way.

301 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:33am

re: #278 galloping granny

I've seen this around for a long time, and as much as I hope it is true, if it were that simple, why hasn't it been proven before now? To keep from getting Hillary?

302 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:40am

re: #299 doriangrey
Oh, I thought I'd done something stupid

303 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:44am

re: #286 opnion

Seems to good to be true, but I am going with you. That would be hilarious &Bgreat foer the Republic.

I have been saying this right along because I am intimately familiar with the rules that were in place when Barry was born - which still apply to him this very day. The difference is that the Obama Fight the Smears website is admitting that Barry is a dual - or maybe a not at all - citizen of the US and citing FactCheck as their authority.

304 3 wood  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:49am

re: #253 galloping granny

If this is going to happen anyway maybe they should just skip the bailout. . . . yeah, right.

Maybe, but I honestly think it would have been much worse without it.

As it is, I think we will have a 1 to 2 year world wide recession. Without the plan it would have been a depression.

But hang on, it's going to get rocky regardless. I think a lot more banks are going to fall. If they had done this a few weeks ago, the damage would have been less.

305 legalpad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:31:55am

re: #276 Moe Katz

There are different kinds of conservatism. It's not all on a single continuum.

There is this whole picture of a continuum, sort of a sliding scale going left or right. The idea is that "extreme" right is just too much of regular right. I just don't agree with that thought structure. If there is a scale, then Hitler and Stalin are on the same side of that scale, not at opposite ends, regardless of formal economic policies, possibly their main difference.

I think the issue is centralization of power with fewer individual rights or check and balance of power with more individual rights.

306 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:32:06am

re: #300 ratso

ya know, I have a wee bit in my coffee here at this moment :) Missed ya saturday by the way.

Phooey. I was here bright and early Sat...did you sleep in?

307 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:32:12am

re: #298 scottishbuzzsaw

Glad to hear you're doing well...autumn is my favorite time of year...any Bailey's this morning or are we suppose to behave?

Hrump.... Former nearly practically almost famous Rock Star here.... Me behave? /scratch's head trying to figure out what the word "behave" means.

308 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:32:14am

hiya 3

309 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:32:42am

Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)

310 opnion  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:03am

re: #301 Beach Lover

I've seen this around for a long time, and as much as I hope it is true, if it were that simple, why hasn't it been proven before now? To keep from getting Hillary?

Yeah Hillary would have used it. She did start a rumor that Barry fathered two Black babies & nothing.

311 legalpad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:04am

re: #279 Edgar

Yeah, they are vague.

312 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:06am

hey hoops

313 Edgar  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:12am

re: #303 galloping granny

The difference is that the Obama Fight the Smears website is admitting that Barry is a dual - or maybe a not at all - citizen of the US and citing FactCheck as their authority.

It's a confusing thing. Maybe they got it wrong. "Admitting" is a bit of a loaded term.

314 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:41am

re: #309 HoosierHoops

Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)


hoops, already did ya missed it

315 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:33:54am

re: #307 doriangrey

Hrump.... Former nearly practically almost famous Rock Star here.... Me behave? /scratch's head trying to figure out what the word "behave" means.

I would never mistake you for someone who behaved, luv...

316 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:33am

re: #306 scottishbuzzsaw

Phooey. I was here bright and early Sat...did you sleep in?


naaaa, my grandson was on my puter all saturday morning

317 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:34am

re: #309 HoosierHoops

Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)

Why THANK YOU HH! How are you today?

318 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:37am

re: #309 HoosierHoops

Good Morning everyone!
How are the lizards doing today?
* Handing Scottish a circular powersaw *
/just in case dorian calls you a marshmellow again..
:)

Oh goodies, she can build me that deck I have been wanting for awhile now... ;)

319 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:34:50am

re: #314 ratso

hoops, already did ya missed it

excellant smithers!
How are you today?

320 Edgar  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:35:11am

re: #305 legalpad

There is this whole picture of a continuum, sort of a sliding scale going left or right. The idea is that "extreme" right is just too much of regular right. I just don't agree with that thought structure. If there is a scale, then Hitler and Stalin are on the same side of that scale, not at opposite ends, regardless of formal economic policies, possibly their main difference.

I think the issue is centralization of power with fewer individual rights or check and balance of power with more individual rights.

In theory both "extreme right" and "extreme left" would be utopias. The problem is hero worship in those cases, and hunger for power (which is present on both sides of the spectrum).

321 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:35:35am

re: #319 HoosierHoops
smithers?

322 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:36:09am

re: #315 scottishbuzzsaw

I would never mistake you for someone who behaved, luv...

Whoose... I was worried there for a second... Wouldn't want my reputation to be tarnished or anything.... ;P

323 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:36:35am

re: #317 scottishbuzzsaw

Why THANK YOU HH! How are you today?

Hey Scottish..Doing wonderful today..It's going to get up to 79 today..Not bad at all for the end of sept.

324 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:37:20am

re: #321 ratso

smithers?

/ a little Simpson humor...
I said a little!

325 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:37:37am

re: #323 HoosierHoops

Hey Scottish..Doing wonderful today..It's going to get up to 79 today..Not bad at all for the end of sept.

I wish it would only get up to 79 here... More like 90...

326 eon  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:37:56am

re: #270 legalpad

You know, I've always wondered exactly why the Nazi's were considered "right-wing". Is it because they hated communists? Can't dictators hate each other? After all right wing here means no abortions, keep your guns, go to church, work hard, save your money. As far as I am concerned if somebody doesn't want you to have guns, whatever else they think, they are not right-wing.

Yes, the German National Socialist Deutsches Arbeitspartei (National Socialist German Worker's Party, to give those murderous bastards their full and correct name) was so "anti-communist" that they initially had a secret agreement with the USSR to train their military in Russia to evade the restrictions of the Versailles Treaty. Followed by the Molotov- von Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pact they signed a few weeks before Stukas began screaming down on Polish border posts in September of '39. After which the two joined in dividing up Poland, with the Soviets taking the opportunity to dispose of a few hundred "awkward" Polish officers at Katyn Forest- officers turned over to them by the Germans, for the most part.

Early on, the Nazis were a straight, doctrinaire, left-wing socialist party which took its cues from Moscow. The pro-Russian elements in its leadership were mainly from northern Germany. The more nationalistic, less "international" contingent was from the southern part of the country, notably around Nuremberg and Munich. It was this lot that the German army's intelligence section sent an agent to infiltrate in 1921. Unfortunately for the entire world, that agent was a former infantry corporal named Adolf Hitler, who saw an opportunity to bring his fantasies to life, and took it. The "northerners" were soon consigned to the back benches- and later, mostly to the death camps.

Even Benito Mussolini, the man who coined the term "fascism", was originally a member of the Italian Communist Party, who broke away because he didn't want Italy taking orders from the Russians, whom he personally despised almost as much as he did the Catholic Church.

I might also point out that much of the "doctrine" of the modern-day "progressive" crowd (primitivism, nature worship, hatred/suspicion of Jews and Christianity, anti-intellectualism) is taken almost word for word from the so-called naturphilosophie ("Natural Philosophy") movement in Germany in the early 1800s, which longed for a return to a pre-Christian "pure" state of being. The writers who advocated this, such as Friedrich Nietzsche and Ernst Hegel, were also strong influences on the NSDAP's "philosophy".

Not to mention Karl Marx, and Friedrich Engels.

The roots of our modern-day madnesses, on the left and right, run very deep indeed.

(Excuse me, but I cannot really say "cheers" here, for obvious reasons, and no one here deserves my other salutation, "clear ether")


eon

327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:38:21am

Can't. Stop. Watching. Kilgore's. Nipple. Song.

328 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:38:30am

re: #313 Edgar

It's a confusing thing. Maybe they got it wrong. "Admitting" is a bit of a loaded term.

It is not the least bit confusing. The "natural born" provision is intended to elminate those who might owe allegiance to some other nation from the Presidency. Under the rules in place at the time that Obama was born neither dual citizens - which he now admits to being - and naturalized citizens (as many people born abroad to two American parents are - like my daughter) are both not considered "natural born." My daughter was naturalized at birth, thus she can never be present. From the facts that Obama's own website is citing and FactCheck is confirming, Obama was a dual (actually he was a triple - see that Indonesian school record) and was thus required to choose at age 18 - when he would have become a naturalized citizen, just as ineligible as my daughter is.

However he apparently did not choose at all. His Kenyan citizenship expired and without positive actions on his part to confirm his intent to exercise his US citizenship, that might very well have simultaneously expired. Leaving him perhaps a citizen of Indonesia.

329 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:39:14am

re: #327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can't. Stop. Watching. Kilgore's. Nipple. Song.

Kilgore has a song about showing his nipple? Ewww gross...

330 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:39:46am

re: #325 doriangrey

I wish it would only get up to 79 here... More like 90...

Are you telling me that not everything is perfect in Paradise?
I find that hard to believe!
Have you finished the mind control ray yet? I was going to borrow it and go to DC for the day..

331 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:39:53am

re: #324 HoosierHoops

/ a little Simpson humor...
I said a little!


simpson? awwwww no, not homer?

332 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:40:46am

re: #328 galloping granny

It is not the least bit confusing. The "natural born" provision is intended to elminate those who might owe allegiance to some other nation from the Presidency. Under the rules in place at the time that Obama was born neither dual citizens - which he now admits to being - and naturalized citizens (as many people born abroad to two American parents are - like my daughter) are both not considered "natural born." My daughter was naturalized at birth, thus she can never be present president. From the facts that Obama's own website is citing and FactCheck is confirming, Obama was a dual (actually he was a triple - see that Indonesian school record) and was thus required to choose at age 18 - when he would have become a naturalized citizen, just as ineligible as my daughter is.

However he apparently did not choose at all. His Kenyan citizenship expired and without positive actions on his part to confirm his intent to exercise his US citizenship, that might very well have simultaneously expired. Leaving him perhaps a citizen of Indonesia.

PIMF

333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:41:04am

re: #329 doriangrey

Kilgore has a song about showing his nipple? Ewww gross...

Here ya go!

334 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:41:18am

re: #326 eon

Well said...but I miss your 'cheers' anyway...

335 legalpad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:42:17am

re: #320 Edgar

In theory

That's the key, I guess. Real humans need that check and balance, need to be ready to counterbalance error, instead of letting the error become unstoppable.

336 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:43:25am

re: #330 HoosierHoops

Are you telling me that not everything is perfect in Paradise?
I find that hard to believe!
Have you finished the mind control ray yet? I was going to borrow it and go to DC for the day..

We wouldn't call it The peoples Republic of California Paradise if everything wasn't perfect here... My part of it should be finished this afternoon... It will should heading for the Wrong East Coast for testing somewhere around the end of Oct or beginning of Nov.

337 eon  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:44:21am

re: #333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here ya go!


Good morning, FBV.

Great video. But that song........

Oh, that's just wrong. On so many levels.

More coffee, with a side order of brain bleach.

cheers

eon

338 3 wood  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:44:37am

re: #308 ratso

hiya 3

Hi ratso

339 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:45:28am

re: #338 3 wood

Hi ratso

Morning wood.... (Hmmm did that come out right?)

340 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:46:05am

re: #339 doriangrey

Morning wood.... (Hmmm did that come out right?)

Have you been watching the Nipple Song? ;>)

341 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:46:07am

re: #336 doriangrey

We wouldn't call it The peoples Republic of California Paradise if everything wasn't perfect here... My part of it should be finished this afternoon... It will should heading for the Wrong East Coast for testing somewhere around the end of Oct or beginning of Nov.


hey dorian, is that the homeland security hardware i've read of lately?

342 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:46:53am

Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.

343 3 wood  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:01am

We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.

Have a good morning all.

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:21am

re: #337 eon

For the record. That is totally Kilgore Trout's fault.

345 beblebrox  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:33am

re: #339 doriangrey

Morning wood.... (Hmmm did that come out right?)

Did somebody say Morning Wood?

346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:43am

re: #343 3 wood

Take Luck!

347 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:47:58am

re: #343 3 wood

We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.

Have a good morning all.


is that in the chicagoland area where 3 is?

348 YankeeBoy  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:48:11am

morning lizards.

349 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:48:26am

re: #345 beblebrox

Did somebody say Morning Wood?


haha, every morning right?

350 legalpad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:48:34am

re: #326 eon

Fascinating history. It explains some. But it is still not clear how the "extreme" right in the U.S. is just too much regular right as sometimes seems implied.

351 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:49:18am

hiya spenser

352 beblebrox  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:49:22am

re: #349 ratso

haha, every morning right?

Gee, I hope not. I have no use for it at them moment.

353 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:49:57am

re: #343 3 wood

We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.

Have a good morning all.

Obama is coming to town?

354 vxbush  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:50:05am

re: #332 galloping granny

PIMF

Ah. That makes more sense, at least with respect to your daughter. :D

However, I think you and I know that the Dems would pull out every trick in the book--and create a few as well--to make sure that he's on the ballot in November if anyone should challenge this. And wouldn't this have to be challenged in each state where he is listed on the ballot? I wish the rule of law still applied to Democrats, but that has been proven to be false over the last two years (and possibly decades). Very sad.

355 eon  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:50:08am

re: #334 scottishbuzzsaw

Well said...but I miss your 'cheers' anyway...

Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"

My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"

No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.

The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.

Thank God I'm a Lizard.

cheers

eon

356 vxbush  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:50:30am

re: #343 3 wood

We have some bad storm coming here, so I'm going to shut down my computer.

Have a good morning all.

And it's almost here, but I'll see if i can stay on a bit longer.

357 vxbush  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:51:03am

re: #347 ratso

is that in the chicagoland area where 3 is?

No. Downstate, middle of Illinois.

358 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:51:30am

re: #341 ratso

hey dorian, is that the homeland security hardware i've read of lately?

Na, it's DOD stealth testing technology.

359 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:51:59am

re: #355 eon

Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"

My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"

No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.

The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.

Thank God I'm a Lizard.

cheers

eon

eon, you make me proud to be a part of the lizard kingdom

360 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:52:43am

re: #358 doriangrey
ahhhhh, are with both with the dod?

361 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:54:49am

re: #355 eon

Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"

My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"

No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.

The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.

Thank God I'm a Lizard.

cheers

eon

This is one of the things that makes me scream when it comes to those who use this same faulty reasoning to insist that "intelligent design" or Biblical beliefs can never, ever be mentioned in a classroom.

362 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:55:22am

re: #360 ratso

ahhhhh, are with both with the dod?

Nope, I work for a Carbon Composites fabrication Company, we do sub-contracting for DOD contractors.

363 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:55:39am

re: #342 Spenser (with an S)

Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.

I'm with you. This is the first time I've been scared that Obama MIGHT win. Right now is a perfect example....Fox is on bringing up the bracelet thing, like that is going to sway anyone watching Fox. When are they going to talk half as long about the things he has DONE, like ACORN, and where are all those low income housing projects/ residents he helped? Show them! Tell us WHAT he has accomplished and who benefited from it. I know it is more complicated, but they don't even try!
now is the time to bring it up....next week may be too late. If Obama get some traction and the momemtum, McCain's over.

364 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:56:01am

re: #362 doriangrey
roger

365 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:57:05am

re: #364 ratso

roger

All your DOD are belong to us..... ;)

366 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:57:11am

re: #362 doriangrey

Nope, I work for a Carbon Composites fabrication Company, we do sub-contracting for DOD contractors.


carbon composites is a good read with a spectacular future.

367 Spider Mensch  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:57:40am

re: #342 Spenser (with an S)

Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.

you got to look close at those polls though. the cnn one admitted that the poll was fixed even...when the poll taken is + 40% democrats and 25% republican with 35% so called indy voters (haha of that 35% on cnn at least 75% leans left)...you'll find that the results will not be balanced. in fact when they so favor one party, the dems, in their polling obama should have even a higher gap than his 5 to 8 %.

368 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:58:25am

Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

I put myself on a self-imposed media blackout last night because seeing Barney Frank and Chris Dodd celebrating their 'bailout' was making me not only physically ill, but also so full of rage that I was throwing things.

369 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:59:00am

Has anyone seen Infidelia around?

370 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:59:24am

re: #355 eon

Thanks. I made a similar post on Townhall (The Site That Must Not Be Linked To- and I concur with that) a long time ago. And you'd be amazed how many trolls immediately began spouting that "anyone who knows that much about the Nazis, must be a Nazi!"

My response was, "I can give you the entire known structure of the KGB, too- does that make me a GRU agent?"

No, most of them had no idea what I was talking about.

The mindlessness of the "enlightened elite" is truly mind-boggling, at times.

Thank God I'm a Lizard.

cheers

eon

It is at that...

371 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:59:36am

re: #368 loppyd
hello loppy i wit you i can't stand dodd and frank, i normally call them by different names.

372 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 5:59:54am

Our Money, who art invested
be there no limits to our shame ?
The meltdown come
The Congress of the dumb
knows exactly whom not to blame.
Give us this day our daily soundbite.
And deliver us from truth,
for it would frighten us.
LA LA LA LA!
Verily, we art not listening.

373 eon  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:00:51am

re: #350 legalpad

Fascinating history. It explains some. But it is still not clear how the "extreme" right in the U.S. is just too much regular right as sometimes seems implied.

Not to beat a dead horse (Down , Dobbin!, for cryin' out loud), but it's classic (and cynical) political agitprop strategy to vilify the "enemy" by convincing everyone else that they are all as dangerous as the most out-of-control, radical and violent elements who they can even remotely be compared to. Even if the comparison is in fact 100% bogus. (As the old saying goes, "If you tell a lie often enough, and loud enough, it becomes true for all practical purposes." That, BTW, is a quote from Henry Gladstone, who is rarely correctly credited for it.)

President Reagan was also compared to Hitler in his time, by the very same elements who use the "BusHitler" meme today. By comparison, when you point out to them that Che' Guevara, whom they wear on their T-shirts and post on their walls, was a bloody-handed butcher who was sold out by his own boss (Fidel) who decided to make him a martyr in Bolivia rather than risk letting him come home and pull a coup in Havana, you'd best be halfway out the door when you do so. Better yet, on the phone.

As the old Toureg proverb goes,

Tell the truth- but keep one foot in the stirrup.

cheers

eon

374 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:12am

re: #368 loppyd
Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's, and watch out for what he renders onto you.

375 eon  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:23am

re: #359 ratso

eon, you make me proud to be a part of the lizard kingdom

Thank you.

cheers

eon

376 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:23am

it appears no ones dingy thingy is working this morning

377 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:01:34am

re: #371 ratso

hello loppy i wit you i can't stand dodd and frank, i normally call them by different names.

You don't want to know the names the BF was hurling at the TV last all weekend. He's a mortgage broker and has an especially sour view of Barney.

378 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:02:39am

re: #366 ratso

carbon composites is a good read with a spectacular future.

It's a wicked voodoo industry. Making things out of carbon composites is amazingly difficult and nobody is willing to give up their secrets on exactly how they assemble their parts.

For the most part someone entering the industry spends two to three years sweeping the floor or cutting patterns before they are ever allowed to do their first lay-up. And when they are finally allowed to do their first lay-up someone else does all the actual tricky parts. It's pretty brutal.

379 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:02:58am

As far as polls go - this is the one that matters:

GW/Battleground Tracking 09/22 - 09/28 1000 LV 46 48 McCain +2

380 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:03:24am

re: #368 loppyd
You know, it is really amazing the number of people that are so furious over this thing..and falling over into the election. But, one thing is for sure, we need to hide small objects for safe keeping until December!

381 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:03:30am

re: #367 Spider Mensch

re: #342 Spenser (with an S)

Morning, Lizards. I can't believe I let them get to me. After the debate Friday, I actually listened to some "analysts" saying that McCain needed to blow Obama away and he didn't and since the polls have leveled out with Obama 3 pts. ahead everywhere, let's just call it a day and make him king. They actually took some wind out of my sails, those bastards.

you got to look close at those polls though. the cnn one admitted that the poll was fixed even...when the poll taken is + 40% democrats and 25% republican with 35% so called indy voters (haha of that 35% on cnn at least 75% leans left)...you'll find that the results will not be balanced. in fact when they so favor one party, the dems, in their polling obama should have even a higher gap than his 5 to 8 %.

Thanks, Spider. That's what I needed. Where's Honorary Yooper? Isn't Blagoivich (sp?) being indicted today? That might help.

382 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:03:52am

re: #374 Peacekeeper

Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's, and watch out for what he renders onto you.

{PK}

You just made me crave a Caesar salad for lunch. LOL

383 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:24am

re: #376 ratso

it appears no ones dingy thingy is working this morning

Mine works...

384 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:51am

re: #376 ratso

it appears no ones dingy thingy is working this morning

Speak for yourself, pilgrim.

385 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:54am

re: #368 loppyd

Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

I put myself on a self-imposed media blackout last night because seeing Barney Frank and Chris Dodd celebrating their 'bailout' was making me not only physically ill, but also so full of rage that I was throwing things.


Good Morning loopyd!

386 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:04:58am

re: #376 ratso

Mine is. I just dingied you up. You want I should dingie you down?

387 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:09am

re: #378 doriangrey

and very, very expensive

388 Noam Chumpski  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:26am

Waichovia has just been bought by CitiBank for $1 share.

(Apologies if this has already been announced)

389 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:26am

{Lopps}
Splurge! put some grilled chicken on it.

390 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:49am

re: #376 ratso

Oh, you said dingy thingy, not thingy dingy!

391 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:05:52am

re: #383 doriangrey

Mine works...

nothing worth upticking i guess

392 legalpad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:06:18am

re: #373 eon

No dead horse! Very interesting!

393 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:06:21am

re: #380 Beach Lover

Congressman Steven Lynch (D) of MA said this morning that his office is getting bombarded with calls from ticked off constituents.

People are furious and they have every right to be.

My favorite line of the whole weekend was John Boener calling the bill a "crap sandwich" - LOL

394 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:07:17am

They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good

395 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:07:39am

re: #389 Peacekeeper

{Lopps}
Splurge! put some grilled chicken on it.

Actually, I think you may have solved my "what to make for dinner" conundrum!

Thanks, pal. :)

396 doriangrey  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:08:06am

re: #387 ratso

and very, very expensive

ROTFLMAO.... That it is.... Well off to the old salt.. er Carbon mines as it were... Now that the treasonous Democrats/socialist bastards have figured out how to increase out debt by a trillion dollars somebody has to go to work to pay it off, and you damned well know it wont be any democrat/socialist bastard...

397 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:08:25am

re: #385 HoosierHoops

Hood Morning Hooooooooooosier!

What's the good word? There has to be something.

398 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:08:51am

re: #394 Beach Lover

They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good

cspan?

399 Noam Chumpski  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:09:12am

re: #394 Beach Lover

They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good

I was hoping that they would let the Dems all vote for it and then step up and vote No. It wold be a PR coup. And hilarious, to boot.

400 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:09:13am

Hi Lizards:

Here's a linky for ya:

CBC Offers Rare Apology for Palin Smear Piece

And OY...I have so much to do today-just working half a day with major Rosh Hashana prep work to do...

To all the Jooooooooish lizards: Shana Tova U'Metukah-a happy, sweet healthy New Year to you and your families and to Kol Am Yisrael, Amen.

401 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:09:17am

re: #396 doriangrey

Have a great day, dorian...

402 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:09:20am

re: #394 Beach Lover

They are showing the voting in the house right now. 16 GOP for it, and all the DEMS for it...most GOP against.
Good

we will post the vote later, curious of the ones who caved to the b#@%$h pelosi.

403 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:10:15am

re: #400 WriterMom

Now there is a flying pig moment if I've ever seen one.

Happy New Year!

404 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:10:17am

re: #400 WriterMom

Hi Lizards:

Here's a linky for ya:

CBC Offers Rare Apology for Palin Smear Piece

And OY...I have so much to do today-just working half a day with major Rosh Hashana prep work to do...

To all the Jooooooooish lizards: Shana Tova U'Metukah-a happy, sweet healthy New Year to you and your families and to Kol Am Yisrael, Amen.


hey what about us nonjewish supporters of the joooooooooooo?

405 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:10:18am

re: #372 Peacekeeper

Always the poet!

406 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:10:42am

re: #403 loppyd

Totally!

407 ratso  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:11:17am

cya dorian

408 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:12:21am

re: #404 ratso

Well...you can wish me a Happy New Year, and I can wish you an Lizardish Friend-of- the-Jooooos-Vicarious Happy New Year...does that work?

409 Noam Chumpski  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:18am

Correction: It's CitiGroup buying Waichovia. Not CitiBank. Though I'm now confused if they are actually one in the same. My radio news source said Citibank, but that's just not true.

[Link: biz.yahoo.com...]

410 Beach Lover  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:25am

If only they would say.."look, we have no choice now to try to fix this mess that the liberals have made. After years of liberal ideology this is where we have gotten." But, they won't.

Great, now my bank is gone.

There goes the Wachovia golf tournament.

411 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:27am

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Well DUH!

412 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:27am

re: #397 loppyd

Hood Morning Hooooooooooosier!

What's the good word? There has to be something.


{Loopyd}
Well let's see..It's going to be a beautiful day..But it still is monday...
Sucking down coffee with great gusto!

413 Spider Mensch  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:13:59am

re: #381 Spenser (with an S)

Thanks, Spider. That's what I needed. Where's Honorary Yooper? Isn't Blagoivich (sp?) being indicted today? That might help.


in fact, depending on the thought basis, being behind in these polls, even though they are cherry picked, can be an advantage, especially with the type of supporters obama has. "the elitist mind set of "our guy has it wrapped up, it doesn't matter if I vote or not" that can be especially true in the case of the young obama supporters, the under 25 crowd. lets face it alot of them are registered but don't even know where they are suppose to go to vote. And after obama tough talk in the debate, I'm wondering if he may be alienating his far left base? or do they see the lies in his words for what they are? lies. but lies that they would tell also? the say anything to get elected, but once in office back to business as usual? is the left that smart? maybe some of them, but not all. any group who can blame everything in the world on one person, Bush, and actually believe it, can't be too smart, imo.

414 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:14:11am

How come I only see colour dingie thingies up to #394...everything above that is grey?

415 realwest  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:01am

re: #409 Noam Chumpski
Good morning, link to the news story re: Citigroup and Wachovia is here: [Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

416 Noam Chumpski  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:02am

re: #414 WriterMom

How come I only see colour dingie thingies up to #394...everything above that is grey?

I thought you wrote, "...everything above that is gay?" and I laughed.

417 Kenneth  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:20am

re: #408 WriterMom

Well...you can wish me a Happy New Year, and I can wish you an Lizardish Friend-of- the-Jooooos-Vicarious Happy New Year...does that work?

Yeah, have one of those, from me! Ciao bella!

418 loppyd  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:29am

re: #412 HoosierHoops

{Loopyd}
Well let's see..It's going to be a beautiful day..But it still is monday...
Sucking down coffee with great gusto!

I always start the day by giving thanks. It 'aint always easy, but it helps.

Send some sunshine this way, would ya? It's been raining forevah!

419 Noam Chumpski  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 6:15:30am

re: #415 realwest

Good morning, link to the news story re: Citigroup and Wachovia is here: [Link: