Has the world ended yet?

Where's my ledge to jump from?

Who gets hit on the head with the closing bell hammer?

I haven't even had time to look at the news today. The stock market is plummeting? Oy.

/crawls back into my cave

Aren't we still above Greenspan's infamous "irrational exhuberance" #?

re: #2 Hard Right

Where's my ledge to jump from?

stay out from under tall buildings.

Black Monday

Racist!

re: #4 zombie

/crawls back into my cave

/My cave was foreclosed, can I join you?

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is no joy in Mudville— Nancy Pelosi has struck out.

When it dipped to more than -700, the INDV and INDP column went black, but the VOLU and UVOL columns lit up.

What does that mean?

When it dipped to more than -700, the INDV and INDP column went black, but the VOLU and UVOL columns lit up.

What does that mean?

re: #7 Occasional Reader

Racist!

ha.

Have they decided on the pattern for the upholstery of the deck chairs yet?

Well, is this all Bush's fault, too?

re: #4 zombie

I haven't even had time to look at the news today. The stock market is plummeting? Oy.

/crawls back into my cave

Like the price of a 60-year-old hooker.

re: #6 ibmkeyboard

stay out from under tall buildings.

What? (thump! Urk!)

im so looking forward to my new job in investments.

my timing could not be any better.

BUY BUY BUY!

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sat. the 25th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

Locals and Nomads welcome.

Kids - OK.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring you suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

re: #15 MandyManners

*whack*

Only Nancy Pelosi could come up with a bill that even her own party can't support, and a presentation so bad that the opposition (whose votes she needs) also gives her a thumbs down. This woman is stupid on stilts.

re: #10 MandyManners

When it dipped to more than -700, the INDV and INDP column went black, but the VOLU and UVOL columns lit up.

What does that mean?

re: #11 MandyManners

When it dipped to more than -700, the INDV and INDP column went black, but the VOLU and UVOL columns lit up.

What does that mean?

I don't know.
I don't know.

How did you get duplicate comments?
How did you get duplicate comments?

re: #6 ibmkeyboard

stay out from under tall buildings.

It's raining men...

Well, I guess I can wave to my IRA (which is investment/market driven) as it swirls around the bowl. Sh*t. Figuratively and literally.

-589.63.

Deep breah, I still remember the day in 1987 when the Dow fell 23% in a day. Remember the Uber-Great Depression of 1987-88? Neither do I. "Courage", as our dear friend Mr. Rather would say.

I'm afraid to look at my 3 retirement accounts...

Dear God- please let John McCain hammer home the importance of fiscal restraint from Washington coupled with outing corruption and may it be the winning issue come November lest we end up with a President whose friends foisted this mess upon us.

re: #3 ibmkeyboard

Who gets hit on the head with the closing bell hammer?

Pelosi.

On the bright side, the Dow closed down a mere 589.95! 'Tis but a trifle!

re: #28 Sharmuta

Dear God- please let John McCain hammer home the importance of fiscal restraint from Washington coupled with outing corruption and may it be the winning issue come November lest we end up with a President whose friends foisted this mess upon us.

Amen.

re: #22 jwb7605

I reported my dupes.

I knew 1987 was not too far around the corner

bbiab

I still want to be a stock broker.

/everybody goes home on Jewish holidays.

*ducks*

re: #15 MandyManners

Like the price of a 60-year-old hooker.

Hillary?

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

Prosperity is just around the corner.

You're saying we should all become hookers?

The republicans should be drafting their own bill. I propose a one liner...

All profit from mortgage CDOs are trated like tax-free municipal bonds for the next 15 years.

Cost = 0

re: #31 Occasional Reader

On the bright side, the Dow closed down a mere 589.95! 'Tis but a trifle!

Good. Only four more trifles to go this week.

I have been here before. I had all my money invested in the Nasdaq/DOW in 1999. I was daytrading, and buying the falling knives every day. Losing my entire fortune.

I lived in my office for 4 months... get a real job, and worked for $10./h to get myself back.

I am now the VP of technology for a Set Top Box IPTV company, and (other than my mortgage) have no debt to speak of. I own stock in the market, but only Canadian energy stocks, and Microsoft.

Like I say, the market is very deja vu for me.

re: #39 DeafDog

The republicans should be drafting their own bill. I propose a one liner...

All profit from mortgage CDOs are trated like tax-free municipal bonds for the next 15 years.

Cost = 0

Well, I do hope another bill is in the works right now.

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

The country is sound.

Prosperity is just around the corner.

All we need is optimism.

i believe you.
i really do.

Silver Lining Dept:

Light, sweet crude for November delivery settled down $10.52, or 9.8%, at $96.37 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Brent crude on the ICE futures exchange closed $96.7 lower at $93.87 a barrel.

I knew 1987 wasn't to far around the corner..

Donald Trump is on with Neil Cavuto and he says there is a silver lining. Oil has dropped from it's excessive price and nothing OPEC can do about it. This oil drop will lead to a strong economy!

Damn- 690

Closing in on six million:

Comments: 5,949,479

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

The country is sound.

Prosperity is just around the corner.

All we need is optimism.

Pelosi's chicken neck in every pot.

Hamsters had a blow-out at .3C. Need new impulse engines.

re: #28 Sharmuta

Dear God- please let John McCain hammer home the importance of fiscal restraint from Washington coupled with outing corruption and may it be the winning issue come November lest we end up with a President whose friends foisted this mess upon us.

The media is spinning all of this as the direct fault of McCain and are reporting his polls numbers plummeting. The panic the media is manufacturing is going viral.

I just can't help but remember Eddie Murphy's first day as an investment broker in Trading Places.

LGF is loading REALLY slowly for me...

To my point. I am glad the socialist bailout failed although I am certain they will pass it at some point...

The stock market crashing and blather about this failure and the public's non understanding of what the bailout means is going to clinch the election of Barack Hussein Obama...

This is exactly the type of economic turmoil that Al Qaeda wanted as a result of 9/11.

Sorry I can't be positive today but things are really, really bad...

Let it fail until it's right.

If it was so crucial, why did not one lawmaker move to repeal the law that caused the meltdown, the CRA?

Still feeding at the trough.

Let it fail.

re: #1 DeafDog

Has the world ended yet?

We're gettin' there, with our foot on the accelerator now.

/wait until the Asian markets open tonight, it's going to be beyond ugly

re: #43 Tigger2005

Well, I do hope another bill is in the works right now.

The "No, Really, This Time We're Serious" Act of 2008

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

I'm an optimist. I think things will be okay... so long as we don't elect 0bama.

damn
-735
its falling faster than I can type.

Boy Donald Trump sure does not like any bailout deal. He says that every time the talk about "fixing" the economy the price of oil goes up - that the lifeblood is being sucked out of our economy by oil and that no bailout means that the price of oil is going to tank and some of the biggest losers are actually going to be the oil producers in the ME that invest "their" money in our stock market.

735.

The fact is a bill does need to pass. Time to roll up the sleeves and draft a good one.

Yeah, the server's slowing down under surges of traffic. People are getting on the web looking for info on this.

Statement from McCain campaign:

From the minute John McCain suspended his campaign and arrived in Washington to address this crisis, he was attacked by the Democratic leadership: Senators Obama and Reid, Speaker Pelosi and others. Their partisan attacks were an effort to gain political advantage during a national economic crisis. By doing so, they put at risk the homes, livelihoods and savings of millions of American families.

Barack Obama failed to lead, phoned it in, attacked John McCain, and refused to even say if he supported the final bill.

Just before the vote, when the outcome was still in doubt, Speaker Pelosi gave a strongly worded partisan speech and poisoned the outcome.

This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country.

The market closed nine minutes ago, right?

re: #48 Born Again Republican

Donald Trump is on with Neil Cavuto and he says there is a silver lining. Oil has dropped from it's excessive price and nothing OPEC can do about it. This oil drop will lead to a strong economy!

So you are saying a drop of oil will help lubricate the economy then. (I needed something to smile about today. Not sure if I am ready for the chaos of the rest of the week.)

re: #48 Born Again Republican

Donald Trump is on with Neil Cavuto and he says there is a silver lining. Oil has dropped from it's excessive price and nothing OPEC can do about it. This oil drop will lead to a strong economy!

Trump seemed to be leaning left earlier this year, but he endorsed McCain recently, didn't he....

Well, my mutual funds are tanking right now, but my brokers says I'm young enough to keep with them. He does reccomend I start cashing out my savings bonds which have matured since the interest on them is barely worth it.

Ammo. Must buy more ammo....;)

Time to flush some fiscal turds and create buying opportunities in the future.

The nerve of these criminals to try and foist the blame onto President Bush.

I'm VERY worried.

Not so much about the economy as about the blame. Obama, the Dems, and their propaganda press toadies will all shackle the blame to the Republicans. I fear this was the day McCain lost the election...and the cost to our liberties will be catastrophic.

As the Dow index hovers at around -600, with over a billion transactions recorded, here’s a Black Monday open thread...

I'm sure if the Dow finished great, you people would be calling it "White Monday." Racists!
/

re: #56 Killian Bundy

/wait until the Asian markets open tonight, it's going to be beyond ugly

I really could have gone all day without hearing that.

The Stock Market is an 8-year-old girl who when she doesn't get what she wants, she throws a hissy fit. But, after a cooling off period, she comes back and grows up to be responsible.

Who cares about this drop. All it equals to me is that when my retirement account buys more and more stocks through its fund - I'll make even more money.

People need to chill. We are turning into a bunch of MSM-information-believing whores.

I love this free market.

re: #65 Ward Cleaver

The market closed nine minutes ago, right?

somebody threw the hammer through the board

re: #65 Ward Cleaver

The market closed nine minutes ago, right?

No, my mistake, it closes at 4:15 EST.

It's been a slaughterfest in the last 10 minutes.

I'd rather bite the bullet this week than eat a crap sandwich for years to come.

re: #67 runrabbitrun

Trump seemed to be leaning left earlier this year, but he endorsed McCain recently, didn't he....

Both him and his tribble IIRC.

re: #63 Charles

Yeah, the server's slowing down under surges of traffic. People are getting on the web looking for info on this.

Charles - any thoughts on how election night is going to go for this site? I can't imagine its going to run very well...

You need some extra $$$ for a bigger/better server?

refresh for new comments

LGF logged me out, strange.

Happy Days Are Here Again

re: #19 Bobibutu

Damn, wish I still lived in the megopolis of Dublin. I have a buddy in Alamo still. Stuck in the hard scrabble city of Kona in Hawaii ... I know, I'm OK, don't worry....

So, I was reading up on what the NJ House delegation had to say about today's events. To summarize:

Well, Steve Rothman has decided that the reason he voted against the bill was because it contained not enough money for a homeowner bailout.

That's right. let's ignore the multibillion dollar bailout for subprime homeowners last December. He wanted more.

Did I mention he's a Democrat.

Meanwhile, Scott Garrett says that the bailout was a bad bill and while the final bill included an insurance option, the Treasury was under no obligation to use it. It was still better than the one as first proposed, but not sufficient to protect taxpayers.

Oh, and he's a GOPer.

But we all know who gets blamed here - McCain and the GOP. Because that's how these things work.

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, my mutual funds are tanking right now, but my brokers says I'm young enough to keep with them. He does reccomend I start cashing out my savings bonds which have matured since the interest on them is barely worth it.

If you're already in the market, it's too late to bail now.

/you're better off just trying to ride it out

re: #63 Charles

Yeah, the server's slowing down under surges of traffic. People are getting on the web looking for info on this.

That was kind of what I thought was happening. I lost LGF, the Chicago SunTimes, and Wikipedia at one point already. Got all three back eventually.

Youtube has removed the Burning Down The House video about the financial crisis.

Largest one day drop in history. (points, not %)

re: #63 Charles

Yeah, the server's slowing down under surges of traffic. People are getting on the web looking for info on this.

Feed the hamsters high energy drinks. Its taken me 30 mins to get into comments from loading LGF, whew!

Everyone back inside, off the ledge. Its only money, afterall!

Have any physical buildings or assets vanished?

No they have not.

O the artificiality of it all.

O the folly.

Let us ask ourselves what life is really for, and we will not have these problems.

re: #56 Killian Bundy

We're gettin' there, with our foot on the accelerator now.

/wait until the Asian markets open tonight, it's going to be beyond ugly

No question that the financial markets ain't going to like this till someone knows how it will play out.

Personally, I'm not going to look at my investments for a while. I agree that the financial markets will look ugly, but this $700B govt. ownership program seems very iffy to me.

But the world will not end for a while.

Gotta love CNN: the House fails to pass Pelosi's bill, so the front page at CNN.com shows a picture of a beleaguered... President Bush..

re: #72 Mike McDaniel

I'm VERY worried.

Not so much about the economy as about the blame. Obama, the Dems, and their propaganda press toadies will all shackle the blame to the Republicans. I fear this was the day McCain lost the election...and the cost to our liberties will be catastrophic.

I agree with you... It is the day the election was lost by the GOP if for nothing more than propaganda...

re: #62 Tigger2005

The fact is a bill does need to pass. Time to roll up the sleeves and draft a good one.

From Dick Morris's piece this morning (pre-vote):

The Democrats and our politically-challenged president have failed to appreciate the difference between spending and lending. Treasury Secretary Paulson can be excused for not realizing it. Politics is not his thing.

But John McCain must realize the crucial distinction and must use his leverage to stop a taxpayer-funded bailout, insisting instead on loans and insurance.

If McCain stands firm, the Democrats will either have to pass the bailout package on their own, without Republican votes, and rely on Bush's signature on the bill to provide a fig leaf of bipartisanship, or they will have to cave in and pass the Republican package.

Either way, McCain comes out ahead.

If he gets his way, he gets credit for the bailout. If he doesn't, he can spend the campaign attacking Obama and the Democrats for spending $700 billion of taxpayer money.

If the Democrats don't adopt either course and play a game of chicken with the Republicans, their congressional status as the majority party dooms them to taking the blame for any ensuing collapse.

Voters can count.

They know that Reid and Pelosi are Democrats and that they control Congress. With this power comes responsibility.

And if the Democrats do nothing — that is, if they fail to use their majorities to pass a bailout or to cooperate with the Republicans in adopting the GOP version of the package — it is they who will get the blame for the catastrophe which will follow.

re: #72 Mike McDaniel

I'm VERY worried.

Not so much about the economy as about the blame. Obama, the Dems, and their propaganda press toadies will all shackle the blame to the Republicans. I fear this was the day McCain lost the election...and the cost to our liberties will be catastrophic.

this could be the day mccain wins the election.
he needs to get the facts out there.
the public is paying attention.

re: #88 Sharmuta

Youtube has removed the Burning Down The House video about the financial crisis.

Crap, I should have downloaded it.

re: #54 tfc3rid

LGF is loading REALLY slowly for me...

To my point. I am glad the socialist bailout failed although I am certain they will pass it at some point...

The stock market crashing and blather about this failure and the public's non understanding of what the bailout means is going to clinch the election of Barack Hussein Obama...

This is exactly the type of economic turmoil that Al Qaeda wanted as a result of 9/11.

Sorry I can't be positive today but things are really, really bad...

I'm wondering if it has something to do with another link.
I e-mailed the one on SpaceX this morning to several of geek friends, and I've gotten 3 replies saying "great link" so far. One of the e-mails went out to my wife at school saying "It's a great one to show students".
... I may have goofed with the school system one. Charles is probably delivering a lot of bandwidth to support the video.

Super! Oil is 96.37/bbl. Gas prices will continue to fall. US$ is holding well against the Euro, but they have their problems over there too.

Boy, that sucked.

Still, there is no reason to think that the market won't gain just about all of it back, if the do-nothing Congress can stop pointing fingers at each other and sign something.

Buzz, considering this mess, some thoughts have come to mind.

I love trying to put your improvisations to video, and for some reason Billy Joel's "We didn't start the fire" seems apropo for the debacle we have now.

Am I allowed to make requests?

I know you, like me, have other obligations first.

But your stuff is always excellent, and contains the perfect acerbic mixture every time.

re: #83 zombie

Happy Days Are Here Again

Nearer, My God, To Thee

/just kidding

re: #19 Bobibutu

I AM A CHICAGOSTAN LIZARD more than likely they would not let me into a gated guarded comm. as even though i look like a harley rider i am too blind to ride one.

re: #67 runrabbitrun

Trump seemed to be leaning left earlier this year, but he endorsed McCain recently, didn't he....

Yes, Trump has publically endorsed Johnny Mac.

re: #19 Bobibutu

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sat. the 25th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

Locals and Nomads welcome.

Kids - OK.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring you suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Sounds like fun. I'm down in L.A. (and Saturday is soccer day) but it sounds like it'll be fun. Nice of you to extend the invite.

Oooh, here's a slightly better version, with an era-appropriate 1932 picture of FDR:

Happy Days are Here Again -- 1932 Democratic presidential campaign theme song.

re: #64 stuiec

Wow.

re: #88 Sharmuta

Youtube has removed the Burning Down The House video about the financial crisis.

Wonder what the Warner Brothers would have thought about that kind of speech suppression. They really hated fascists.

Down 748.21 points for the day according to Bloomberg.com.

I was expecting the Dow to drop more than a 1000 pts. I think there may be some moderation and buying opportunities.

re: #82 lifeofthemind

LGF logged me out, strange.

That's the new Auto-Stinky feature!

re: #72 Mike McDaniel

I fear this was the day McCain lost the election...and the cost to our liberties will be catastrophic.

/nah, he was already a solid eight points behind nationally and slipping in battleground states as of yesterday

Lucky me. I never listened to my broker and insisted on conservative safe investments. Less than 10% of my retirement in the stock. (I am old enough the remember the dive.)

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

Engaging Hoopy Frood mode.

re: #83 zombie

Happy Days Are Here Again

Happy days are here again,
The skys above a clear again,
Let us drink a cupgallon of cheer again,
Happy days are here again!

re: #19 Bobibutu

My Halloween treat - so no cost to you.

You'll pay my airfare?

re: #86 Killian Bundy

If you're already in the market, it's too late to bail now.

/you're better off just trying to ride it out

Yeah, that what my broker said, since I'm only in my 30s and my funds were low risk, long term growth type funds. Luckily, I got my assets spread out so I can't really loose everything as once.

re: #73 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm sure if the Dow finished great, you people would be calling it "White Monday." Racists!
/

It probably should be "Red Monday", as red is the color of falling stocks and negative balances.

The converse should be "Green Monday" for the same sorts of reasons.

re: #64 stuiec

Responding to a partisan attack with a partisan attack. Not as strong as it could have been.

McCain should have been saying that the Democrats failed to maintain their own caucus, and McCain delivered enough GOPers had Pelosi been able to deliver on her side of the aisle. She did not.

Now, we've got to fix the mess we're in, and this is how we're going to do it.

We're going to roll up our sleeves and work to deal with the toxic paper at the source. We're going to fix the way that the government forced banks to lend to subprimes, and then we're going to work on helping banks get themselves healthy.

That means working on a way to deal with the toxic paper. It means assisting the banks in a framework of market capitalism, not with still more regulatory red tape that only served to drive this crisis in the first place.

/wishful thinking...

Dow closed at 777.48.

Whooo-eee.

re: #31 Occasional Reader

On the bright side, the Dow closed down a mere 589.95! 'Tis but a trifle!

DJIA 4:14
10,365.45 -777.68 -6.98%

re: #88 Sharmuta

Youtube has removed the Burning Down The House video about the financial crisis.

Of course they did - I'm just surprised that the liberal facsists who run ScrewYouTube left it up as long as they did.

re: #72 Mike McDaniel

I'm VERY worried.

Not so much about the economy as about the blame. Obama, the Dems, and their propaganda press toadies will all shackle the blame to the Republicans. I fear this was the day McCain lost the election...and the cost to our liberties will be catastrophic.

You're forgetting something: voter sentiment has been running better than 9-to-1 AGAINST the bailout bill. If the GOP gets the blame for this bill failing today, then either of two things will happen:

1) Democrats will pass an even more unpopular bill on their own, or

2) Congress will make the bill less unpalatable to voters, and then the Dems will have to concede the credit to the GOP (having already declared the GOP votes the deciding factor in the defeat of the first bill).

Put your seatbelt on! Here we go!

re: #112 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's the new Auto-Stinky feature!

Hey, I shower every month whether I need to or not.

re: #110 addison

Down 748.21 points for the day according to Bloomberg.com.

Market's only off 6.7% for the day. Large number drop, but percentage-wise, it's not exactly a bloodbath.

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Nearer, My God, To Thee

/just kidding

I think the historical record shows it was "Londonderry Air."

re: #31 Occasional Reader

On the bright side, the Dow closed down a mere 589.95! 'Tis but a trifle!

On the not so bright side the market kept on going down now down 770. Hopefully they'll actually close the fucking thing for a while.

re: #122 Occasional Reader

Dow closed downat 777.48.

Whooo-eee.

You had my heart missing a beat.

Actually now might be a good time to start buying, or does it have more to sink yet?

re: #107 zombie

Oooh, here's a slightly better version, with an era-appropriate 1932 picture of FDR:

Happy Days are Here Again -- 1932 Democratic presidential campaign theme song.

I still remember FDR on TV after the great crash of 1929...very comforting.

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

I hope you're right.

I found the Burning Down The House Video is still up at the downloaders page. Grab it now before the Truth Squad finds it!

It's only money, the Federal Reserve will print more.

Back to usual programming.

Sometimes I'm so good I want to Upding myself.

re: #122 Occasional Reader

I should say, DOWN 777.68. Not that it's AT 777... it wasn't THAT bad a day!...

re: #130 stuiec

I think the historical record shows it was "Londonderry Air."

Otherwise known as Danny Boy.

re: #72 Mike McDaniel

I'm VERY worried.

Not so much about the economy as about the blame. Obama, the Dems, and their propaganda press toadies will all shackle the blame to the Republicans. I fear this was the day McCain lost the election...and the cost to our liberties will be catastrophic.

I'm not so sure about that. The talking heads on Fox are absolutely not letting them get away with blaming McCain. They've come right out and said repeatedly that the Dems have enough membership to pass the bill without a single Republican vote - and some to spare over that.

re: #124 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Of course they did - I'm just surprised that the liberal facsists who run ScrewYouTube left it up as long as they did.

There are 1000 utterly partisan hack-job videos on You-tube (for/against both candidates), yet they pull this one.

/Can't imagine why.

What was the transgression, the copyrighted background music with "Money for Nothing" and "Burning down the House"?

Holy moly, don't be jumping off any buildings now! The sky has not fallen. What we have here is a huge defeat for Pelosi! She failed to get the job done, even though the dhimmis control Congress.Her little rant against Bush and the Republicans and her praise for Barney Frank for his "leadership." finally woke the sleeping Republicans. I know it looks bad now but I'm sure they will get something passed.This is too good for me not to savor for a few moments. My other take is that there is no way McCain is going to take the fall for this. Nancy couldn't even get her own minions to pass this. Hold tight it's going to be a wild ride.

Hey.

Wowsy Wowsy Woo Woo.

re: #141 galloping granny

But that's FOX. Who's watching FOX?

re: #130 stuiec

I think the historical record shows it was "Londonderry Air."

I thought it was supposedly "Autumn"?

(I don't know this "London Dérriere" song, it sounds dirty!)

re: #142 taxfreekiller

#88

told you so,

but its all over, youtube can not stop the truth now

They didn't think about the user's page

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I keep getting updates 4:14 down 777. When do they stop?

Hamsters.... struggling... can't hold on much... longer!

re: #143 looking closely

There are 1000 utterly partisan hack-job videos on You-tube (for/against both candidates), yet they pull this one.

/Can't imagine why.

What was the transgression, the copyrighted background music with "Money for Nothing" and "Burning down the House"?

And I'm sure all those Wall Street thugs got lots of chicks for free.

re: #133 Judith

Actually now might be a good time to start buying, or does it have more to sink yet?

Not yet, unless you have plenty of Band-Aids handy.

/wait until the plunging knife is firmly embedded in the breadboard and it stops vibrating

re: #28 Sharmuta

Dear God- please let John McCain hammer home the importance of fiscal restraint from Washington coupled with outing corruption and may it be the winning issue come November lest we end up with a President whose friends foisted this mess upon us.

Dear God, please open McCain's mouth, give him the words to out the crooks who put us in this mess, and the courage to speak. Amen.

re: #116 buzzsawmonkey
Buzz, hope I have this right....Shana Tova.

re: #130 stuiec

I think the historical record shows it was "Londonderry Air."

I always thought London Derriere was another name for the birds on page 3
/nudge-nudge, wink-wink

Shame Nancy couldn't get her own party on board.

Just doubled down on my 401K.

re: #121 lawhawk

Responding to a partisan attack with a partisan attack. Not as strong as it could have been.

McCain should have been saying that the Democrats failed to maintain their own caucus, and McCain delivered enough GOPers had Pelosi been able to deliver on her side of the aisle. She did not.

Now, we've got to fix the mess we're in, and this is how we're going to do it.

We're going to roll up our sleeves and work to deal with the toxic paper at the source. We're going to fix the way that the government forced banks to lend to subprimes, and then we're going to work on helping banks get themselves healthy.

That means working on a way to deal with the toxic paper. It means assisting the banks in a framework of market capitalism, not with still more regulatory red tape that only served to drive this crisis in the first place.

/wishful thinking...

I don't think McCain should attempt to take credit for the number of GOP votes he delivered: most voters hated the bill in the first place.

McCain should indeed say that Pelosi couldn't wrangle her own party to save this bill. Then he should take your suggestion of presenting the House GOP alternative plan as the best way forward, along with the other legislative reforms you outlined.

Appropriate Shana Tova

re: #147 Occasional Reader

(I don't know this "London Dérriere" song, it sounds dirty!)

It's a real ass-slapper.

Blood in the steets...cause by Democrats and the average voter thinks Obambi is the best to fix it...jeeeeeezzz!

re: #157 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I always thought London Derriere was another name for the birds on page 3
/nudge-nudge, wink-wink

Say no more; Say no more...

re: #116 buzzsawmonkey

Inhale deep, blow hard into the trumpet, and get some rest.

Have a great holiday, and I'll see what I can come up with.

Shanah Tovah folks.

re: #157 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nice to see that you keep abreast of the developments in the UK.

Zombie, if you're here. Can I use your bank for a deposit?

Did anyone come in and fix the S&L crisis years back? No!

re: #163 cblesz

Blood in the steets...cause by Democrats and the average voter thinks Obambi is the best to fix it...jeeeeeezzz!

Exactly...

I've had a ton of email today from friends telling me that 'my boys' have really screwed America (Bush/McCain/GOP) and that Obama is a shoo in...

re: #154 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Dear God, please open McCain's mouth, give him the words to out the crooks who put us in this mess, and the courage to speak. Amen.

Amen.

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President
ABC NEWS

re: #144 nigella

Holy moly, don't be jumping off any buildings now! The sky has not fallen. What we have here is a huge defeat for Pelosi! She failed to get the job done, even though the dhimmis control Congress.Her little rant against Bush and the Republicans and her praise for Barney Frank for his "leadership." finally woke the sleeping Republicans. I know it looks bad now but I'm sure they will get something passed.This is too good for me not to savor for a few moments. My other take is that there is no way McCain is going to take the fall for this. Nancy couldn't even get her own minions to pass this. Hold tight it's going to be a wild ride.

Her Dems were pissed off because she took out the pork and the ACORN slush fund money.

re: #144 nigella

Correct.

re: #157 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I always thought London Derriere was another name for the birds on page 3
/nudge-nudge, wink-wink

I thought the page3 girls were the Brixton Boobies.

re: #171 kansas

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President
ABC NEWS

Unfreaking Real!

Now is the time to get the truth out about the Dems role in this mess; McCain can fill a big void here with some leadership!

re: #64 stuiec

Today at the McCain/Palin rally when McCain was talking about this crisis, McCain said to thunderous applause "I put my country first. I'll never be a President who sits on the sidelines when this country faces a crisis. It's not my style to sit on the sidelines and phone it in."

re: #171 kansas

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President
ABC NEWS

Suddenly the press is so damned concerned about Bush getting "rebuffed".

What a fucking joke.

re: #169 tfc3rid

Exactly...

I've had a ton of email today from friends telling me that 'my boys' have really screwed America (Bush/McCain/GOP) and that Obama is a shoo in...

Itre: #169 tfc3rid

Exactly...

I've had a ton of email today from friends telling me that 'my boys' have really screwed America (Bush/McCain/GOP) and that Obama is a shoo in...

It's not October yet. The truth will out.

re: #171 kansas

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President
ABC NEWS

It's NEVER about the Dems... It's the GOP's fault... That's the meme...

re: #171 kansas

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President

This could devastate his chances for re-election!

re: #169 tfc3rid

Exactly...

I've had a ton of email today from friends telling me that 'my boys' have really screwed America (Bush/McCain/GOP) and that Obama is a shoo in...

Yup. I was granted an 10 minute lecture about how the rethuglicans destroyed all the great strides made during the Clinton years.

The video url

where's the MSM story on how House Democrats have a large enough majority to pass the bill without a single Republican vote but still couldn't make it happen?

I don't think I have ever been this angry at politicians. Liberals are sickening. Their selfish and relentless pursuit of power coupled with Republicans not standing up for themselves. I don't care what Republicans have to do but they must get the message out.

The debates maybe the last opportunity for Palin and McCain to reveal the truth.

If they don't do it. Then I give up. I'll quit my job and let the f&ck%ng nanny state take care of me.

Maybe I'll go to jail for kicking Pelosi in her fat ass and the state of California can feed and clothe me for the next few years.

re: #171 kansas

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President Congresscritters Heed Their Constituents
ABC LGF NEWS

Fixed it.

re: #178 Sharmuta

Suddenly the press is so damned concerned about Bush getting "rebuffed".

What a fucking joke.

They like it because Bush was "rebuffed" by his own party.

Actually, Pelosi got pissed on by her party.

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans sacrifice babies to Baal

re: #168 So?

Yes, they did. The feds formed the RTC to resolve and unwind the savings and loan banks that failed.

The real news comes in on the carrier wave of silence in a monastery

re: #171 kansas

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President
ABC NEWS

Right. Republicans rebuff unpopular President who was pushing vastly unpopular bailout for corporate fat cats.

See how this might backfire on the MSM and the Democrats?

Good! We don't need a bailout. It was a bill designed to insure people against their own stupidity!

The Pelosi/Reid Congress last week bailed out the big three auto makers for 25 billion.

The subprime lenders got a bailout last year.

Let them burn. For the money they are planning on spending, you can buy up all the notes and bad mortgages in the country and have about 69 billion left over.

No matter what happens, this is all bad news for the McCain campaign. In politics, perception is reality and since people are perceiving this as all happening on the GOP's watch, then it's the party's fault--no matter what history we try to tell.

So, will ACORN be back in for the next version?

re: #189 Peacekeeper

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans sacrifice babies to Baal

Why is it that during these dark, eldritch ceremonies, I'm alway the one who has to lug around that big, heavy Baal graven image? It's always, "tote that barge, lift that Baal..."

From Politico (this is leadership?!?):

Obama proven overly optimistic

Obama's prepared remarks, from earlier today in Colorado.

And today, Democrats and Republicans in Washington have agreed on an emergency rescue plan that is our best and only way to prevent an economic catastrophe.

Not so much.

UPDATE:

After seeing the bill fail, Obama scapped the originial script and talked of Rocky Mountain-like turbulence

And today, Democrats and Republicans in Washington have a responsibility to make sure that an emergency rescue package is put forward that can at least stop the immediate problems we have so we can begin to plan for the future. As I said, this is a hard thing to do. And right now Democratic and Republican leaders have agreed but members have not yet agreed.

There are going to be some bumps and trials and tribulations and ups and down before we get this rescue package done. It is important for the American public and for the markets to say calm because things are never smooth in congress and to understand that it will get done. That we are going to make sure an emergency package is put together because it is required for us to stabilize the markets and to make sure that when a small business-person wakes up tomorrow morning, he will be able to make payroll.

We are not going to lose jobs at an even faster clip than we are doing right now. I am confident we are going to get there but it’s going to be sort of rocky. It’s sort of like flying into Denver. You know you’re going to land but it’s not always fun going over those mountains.

OT:

PLO/PA/Fatah: "Everything, is not enough"

Oh, and Hot Air is warning that Pelosi might put ACORN in to the bailout bill replacement (Toxic Paper II: Wrath of Bailout)

re: #169 tfc3rid

Exactly...

I've
had a ton of email today from friends telling me that 'my boys' have
really screwed America (Bush/McCain/GOP) and that Obama is a shoo in...

Did these friends typically lean left before this?

This debacle helps obama more than anyone. I want to know if the hand of george soros is behind any of these economic earthquakes.

re: #193 calcajun

The Pelosi/Reid Congress last week bailed out the big three auto makers for 25 billion.

That was a loan guarantee, IIRC. Just like the Chrysler bail-out loan, which was paid off early.

Here's an idea. The government should take all the money it funnels to colleges and higher education, and use that to fund the bail-out. And if that isn't enough to solve the problem, then they should friggin' nationalize the whole university system, and put all professors on a salary equivalent to what my trash collector makes. Hell, all those lefty professors ought to be thrilled to be a goverment employee. They love government intervention so much, or at least that's what they say.

re: #189 Peacekeeper

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans sacrifice babies to Baal

Ok, I have to admit it, that made me laugh!

re: #177 ciaospirit

See my #197.

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Did these friends typically lean left before this?

Not all of them...

re: #194 mean Gene

So, will ACORN be back in for the next version?

Nah, they're gonna shoot for the entire OAK!

[Link: speaker.house.gov...] is down
haha

re: #188 Ward Cleaver

Actually, Pelosi got pissed on by her party.

That sort of thing happens a lot in San Francisco. Zombie's got the photos.

re: #169 tfc3rid

Exactly...

I've had a ton of email today from friends telling me that 'my boys' have really screwed America (Bush/McCain/GOP) and that Obama is a shoo in...

Yes, but aren't these the same friends who e-mail you every time it rains, "Look -- global warming, and it's all Bush's fault"?

TheMouthPeace at youtube has another Finance video

Covering Your Fannie, Who Really Caused Our Economic Crisis?

re: #186 skree

Palin needs to be on fire in her debate.

She needs to drive home everything Reagan in this encounter. Whatever anyone says, McCain is part of the establishment, just by virtue of his time in Washington.

Palin put the spark back in the GOP. Up until that point, it was going through the motions. She weathered the storm so it seems. Unless someone is holding on to some damaging information, the opposition did their best to destroy her, and they failed.

She is the hinge upon how this door can swing.

L'Shana Tova Lizardim. Have a happy, healthy, safe, and prosperous New Year.

Oh, and avoid reading the financial pages for a few days. /

re: #195 Occasional Reader

Why is it that during these dark, eldritch ceremonies, I'm alway the one who has to lug around that big, heavy Baal graven image? It's always, "tote that barge, lift that Baal..."

Now that's not fair to the GOP. Obama is the showboat after all. And his sitting on the sidelines during this bruhaha should be usable to knock a few holes in his hull.

#'s 188 and 210, you made me laugh.
Thanks.

Ward,I know the Dems. voted against it because their little pet pork projects were removed.That being said Nancy should have known she wasn't going to get the vote. She knew this the entire time, which is why she so desperately needed the Republicans. Looks like her "chickens have come home to roooooost!"

re: #198 wrathofG-d

OT:

PLO/PA/Fatah: "Everything, is not enough"

"You all have to commit suicide, too! Right in front of our eyes. Actually, no... that won't be any fun... you have to let us kill you. Only then will we have peace."

Hey. Where can I find the roll call vote?

I, for one, am glad the "Bailout" didn't pass. Capitalism means some companies die and some pain is felt occasionally.

re: #207 tfc3rid

Not all of them...

Not to rub salt in your wounds, but after this weekend, there's a new universal symbol for choking.

That downloader convertor is a great little program

re: #217 nigella

Ward,I know the Dems. voted against it because their little pet pork projects were removed.That being said Nancy should have known she wasn't going to get the vote. She knew this the entire time, which is why she so desperately needed the Republicans. Looks like her "chickens have come home to roooooost!"

big AMEN - that's the point - greedy turds

How about a bumper-sticker that says “Don’t be a Baracksucker.”

This puts Pelosi et all in the spotlight for once. Good. America is watching.

This is not bad for McCain. Au contraire.

George Orwell wrote about how we shouldn't use illustrations (even if they're apt ones) IF we have to explain the illustration.
Ward Churchill brought the ''chickens coming home to roost,'' illustration, back but I have to wonder if most younger people even know what that means.

re: #9 Peacekeeper

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is no joy in Mudville— Nancy Pelosi has struck out.

fixed that

re: #221 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not to rub salt in your wounds, but after this weekend, there's a new universal symbol for choking.

I was there yesterday... Sickening... I'm so mad...

re: #171 kansas

Bailout Plan Defeated as Republicans Rebuff President
ABC NEWS

In other words, a flat-out lie is the headline.

Charming.

re: #213 formercorpsman

All part of the master plan. Minimize the performance at the first debate, no knockouts or events that cause Barry to regame for the next one.

Palin mops the floor with Biden. No rematch.

Mac comes in harder in #2, but saves the kill for #3

/maybe wishful thinking, maybe not.

For the last decade, Democrats used Fannie and Freddie as their own personal piggy bank. Now Obama AND HIS party have the audacity to blame Republicans.

Why should we bail out the democrats?

Now the Acorn Islamo leftist convergence will scream that Congress is taking Rosh Hashanah off.

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey. Where can I find the roll call vote?

Right here, go see how your Congressman voted...

I'd like to see a list of Democrats who voted no. Where can I find that?

re: #135 Sharmuta

I hope you're right.

I found the Burning Down The House Video is still up at the downloaders page. Grab it now before the Truth Squad finds it!

How do I download it? Help!

/dopey youtube viewer

re: #230 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That would great.
Please don't be offended if I decide not to hold my breath on that last part.

But it would be great.

This gag strikes a chord with me today:

Rufus T. Firefly: [to Trentino] Now, how about lending this country twenty million dollars, you old skinflint?
Ambassador Trentino: Twenty million dollars is a lot of money. I'd have to take that up with my Minister of Finance.
Rufus T. Firefly: Well, in the meantime, could you let me have twelve dollars until payday?
Ambassador Trentino: Twelve dollars?
Rufus T. Firefly: Don't be scared, you'll get it back. I'll give you my personal note for ninety days. If it isn't paid by then, you can... keep the note.

There's a WaMu banner ad at the top of the page.

/I am SO confused...

Our asshole media can shove it.

re: #228 tfc3rid

I was there yesterday... Sickening... I'm so mad...

Think there'll be a shake-up in the offseason?

re: #235 Florida Lady

re: #184 lifeofthemind

The video url [Link: www.youtube.com...]
and the tool is [Link: youtubedownload.altervista.org...]

Guys,

didn't Cavuto say that PERCENTAGE WISE this day doesn't even crack the Top Ten?

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

The country is sound.

Prosperity is just around the corner.

All we need is optimism.

and some fiscal responsibility.

re: #220 pimp_conservative

I, for one, am glad the "Bailout" didn't pass. Capitalism means some companies die and some pain is felt occasionally.

The devastation that could happen with a chaotic economic meltdown and MSM fed panic could be significant. It's one hell of a gamble to allow a strictly market based fix for a problem caused by Gov't meddling in the first place. I'm still not sure which side of this I fall on, especially with a couple homes upside-down on their mortgage/value ratio, even if I have managed to make all the payments on time so far.

re: #243 devil in baggy pants

Guys,

didn't Cavuto say that PERCENTAGE WISE this day doesn't even crack the Top Ten?

Yes, he did.
With the locks set at a 1200 point drop I think we are insulated against a top 5 day.

re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Think there'll be a shake-up in the offseason?

There should be but no... Although Omar has said some very interesting stuff today...

Here...

“I do believe in them, and we need to put some guys around them, but we also have to consider do we have to shake the tree. We have to consider all those things…Look, this town and our fan base is about championships. They don’t want to hear we won 80–something games. They don’t want to hear that we got to the first round of the playoffs…This is not a young-team town. Those days are over. This is a town that pays, (pause), that’s invested in their ballclub, and ownership is committed to investing back, and winning, and getting to the playoffs, even in 2006, that’s not good enough here. I understand that here. We don’t start the year thinking, ‘OK, we’re just gonna get to the playoffs.’ That’s not what this town is about, and I can tell you as a General Manager that that’s not what I’m about. Our goal is to get to the World Series, win the World Series, and continue to win it, but the bottom line is we can’t even get to the playoffs so we need to find a better way to work hard at this.”

Lip service? Who knows but he deserves to be fired but will not be...

re: #202 CyanSnowHawk

And what happens if they default or go into bankruptcy? Will the government take over the auto industry? That's a scary thought.

re: #239 FrogMarch

Our asshole media can shove it.

If we don't get the truth out, they'll shove Obama up our collective ass.

Gee, if we socialize risk under a Republican how easy will it be for a Democrat to socialize profit?

It is 3 AM.

I await the blessed honeyed words of The One to sooth me this dark night.

re: #236 formercorpsman

We can hope... he's shown glimmers of Maneuver Warfare comprehension in this campaign... in between moments that make us all go WTF?... maybe the old coot really has it in him to want to win and the "we must all get along" BS is a Sun Tzu cover for strength.

/but I'm as prepared as any to spend the next 4 years drinking heavily, too.

Obama sits on the sidelines and calls that leadership.

re: #248 calcajun

And what happens if they default or go into bankruptcy? Will the government take over the auto industry? That's a scary thought.

Would you buy a car built under the supervision of Howell Raines and Barney Frank?

re: #118 Sharmuta

You'll pay my airfare?

if bobitutu pays your airfare, I want my fare share.

Sitting here watching my pension and investments slowly erode, I can't help but wonder if I would've been better off buying Rubles or Pesos all this time.

Nah.

re: #253 ciaospirit

Obama sits on the sidelines and calls that leadership.

That's because, if they need him they can call him!/

re: #238 littleoldlady

There's a WaMu banner ad at the top of the page.

/I am SO confused...

The last gasps of a dying company are often their pre-paid advertisements.

On FNC.com page:

Speaker Pelosi reacts to rejection of bailout bill by House members, calls for bipartisanship

Sha right!

This bailout is the means by which the Dems can begin to enact their socialist utopia... Obama the end to delivering it...

re: #231 FrogMarch

For the last decade, Democrats used Fannie and Freddie as their own personal piggy bank. Now Obama AND HIS party have the audacity to blame Republicans.

Why should we bail out the democrats?

You know damned well why.

We don't approve, of course. But that doesn't mean it doesn't need to be done.

Damnit.

re: #153 Killian Bundy

Not yet, unless you have plenty of Band-Aids handy.

/wait until the plunging knife is firmly embedded in the breadboard and it stops vibrating

In my experience, that moment may not be so clear. The market can go back up nearly as fast as it went down if a deal is cut.

There are stocks that took a nice haircut today that didn't really deserve it fundamentally.

Burning Down the House is still on Live Leak

it makes me so mad to hear pelosi call the republicans unpatriotic.
she really is a witch.

re: #254 lifeofthemind

Would you buy a car built under the supervision of Howell Raines and Barney Frank?

It'd have a kick-ass backup alarm...

re: #254 lifeofthemind

Would you buy a car built under the supervision of Howell Raines and Barney Frank?

Yes, if I could lock them in the trunk and then push it off a cliff backwards.

re: #242 taxfreekiller

All that's missing is the Epic Fail caption.

Just in, wasn't able to take a leisurely read down-thread, beyond buzzsaw and zombie's delightful Depression Era music.

How are we doin', folks?

re: #73 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm sure if the Dow finished great, you people would be calling it "White Cracker Monday." Racists!
/

fixed

re: #253 ciaospirit

Obama sits on the sidelines and calls that leadership.

What gets me is how people seem to buy it.