MAYBE HE'LL JUST DROP OUT

n0bama would be a disaster for the US at any time.

At this particular time, he would be a catastrophe.

And yet despite all of this, virtually no-one in the mainstream media is asking any questions. Has there ever been a more staggering, surreal and scary race to the White House?

In a word? No.

Now if only someone would pay attention. Obama should not be a candidate for POTUS.

Perhaps the October surprise will be the MSM doing it's job again.

/Not bloody likely, I'm afraid.

then again, if an Republican ex-Presidents would criticize him, like ex-demo-presidents Carter and Clinton regularly do
he'd be outta here

let alone his relationship with fraudster Tony Rezko.

Rumor has it Mr. Rezco's singing. I doubt it will make an impact, but here's hoping.

re: #5 CyanSnowHawk

Perhaps the October surprise will be the MSM doing it's job again.

/Not bloody likely, I'm afraid.

man, that's a good one
pass the paper towel so I can wipe the coffee off my monitor

The Mainchurian Candidate.

in the past any one of these connections would have automatically disqualified the person for POTUS. and even today, if a Republican had these connections there would be wall to wall coverage by Olberman and company.

Shana Tova to everyone. May this year be blessed with good things only.

And yet despite all of this, virtually no-one in the mainstream media is asking any questions. Has there ever been a more staggering, surreal and scary race to the White House?

The silence of the media is deafening and I fear their thunderous applause for Captain Ego will be death of the free market democratic republic all sane informed citizens call dear.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke

Where's Excalibur? He's late.

Staggerind, Surreal, and Scary
Spot on

re: #8 Adrenalyn

man, that's a good one
pass the paper towel so I can wipe the coffee off my monitor

Here you go...

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I'm guessing 0bama didn't think to send Truth Goons to the UK, huh?

the word is that Rezko is giving them enough dirt to sink govenor Blaggo.
probably won't do much to teflon Barry though.

Of course bringing up his associations and work for the last 20 years simply means we're a bunch of racists since we won't blindly support him because he is black.

yes, but the gun in this knife fight is the internet

people have been getting word out about Obama

and the democrat's killing any oversight of fannie and Freddie

lastly, don't believe the polls

it should be a landslide for McCain

but he has to unleash the hounds and NOT play nice

Is it any wonder the MSM is following the Dodo down the road to extinction? If they don't report the news, in a useful and unbiased way, and are nothing more than a willing extension of someone's propaganda machine, what the hell are they good for?

I remember someone saying that for a job with high government security clearance, he had to fill out a questionnaire, and one of the questions was "Have you ever known a domestic terrorist (or some combination of that same phrase.) If he'd answered yes and put Bill Ayers, he would have been denied access. Yet somehow Obama gets all of the access. He really is going to have to pull some strings in the justice department...for himself!

In their own little world, the MSM IS doing their job, and that's to get Little O elected. Anything that may prevent him from ascending to the presidency is to be ignored. It is useless for us to gnash our teeth and ask why they won't do their jobs.

re: #13 kevinmumaw

Where's Excalibur? He's late.

The Lady in the Lake has hold of his pommel and won't let go.

Good thing Boss Hog from Missouri doesn't have jurisdiction over her.

#20 by the time the 50% of the country, that hasn't figured out that yet, finally gets it, it'll be too late.

Why? And more importantly who is suppressing all of this? And there is no way the MSM is doing all the damage control in all of this, not in todays age with blogs and the like. After all Dan CBS Rather got taken down by Charles and his blog, and all the blogging about the Duke rape case that got Nifong disbarred. There has to be another factor.

I don't know why, but I am so glad that I am up here and not in the lower 48. Feels safer up here for some reason. I still think all hell will break loose, no matter who wins the election.

re: #11 Sparkizzy

Shana Tova to everyone. May this year be blessed with good things only.

Amen.

The MSM had a swooning crush on Obama last winter. They threw Hillary, a flawed, liberal but loyal candidate over the railing for their new political snookums Barack. Too late they realized he was a con man -- he was not who he pretended to be.

Now they have to lie, spin, and ignore their way through November... hoping against hope they can get their guy elected, and somehow get their reputations back when the dust has settled.

Not bloody likely.

re: #13 kevinmumaw

Where's Excalibur? He's late.

They were running a special on drool cups down at Wallyworld...

re: #19 Adrenalyn

it should be a landslide for McCain

i don't believe the polls, and frankly haven't given up on a mini-landside for McCain. mark my words, the needles will move sharply to the right as election day draws near.

re: #26 JohnnyReb

Why? And more importantly who is suppressing all of this? And there is no way the MSM is doing all the damage control in all of this, not in todays age with blogs and the like. After all Dan CBS Rather got taken down by Charles and his blog, and all the blogging about the Duke rape case that got Nifong disbarred. There has to be another factor.

I don't usually like to bother my neighbors, but there's some in my area with Obama signs, and I think I'm just going to ask them. I really want to know what it is. But I'm afraid it's not going to be a case of ignorance, or belief that all the bad stuff is just Fox News/Rush Limbaugh lies or smears, or anything even halfway logical. It's going to be irrational, it's going to be "feelings." How else could there be Iraqi veterans who SUPPORT the war and also support Obama, and think that he will prosecute the war better than Bush has?

Well, at least we now know what it is exactly that "community organizers" do. Has Obama denied any of this yet?

Quite frankly, Madeline Talbott should be the star of a McCain campaign commercial, right now. When the left complains about greed causing this mess, they are right. They just don't know how right they are.

Well, it's been a very interesting and stressful day.

I hope this evening is better.

Take care, lizards.

the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:

"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org)

Newsmax rounds out the picture:

Their strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bringing about a change in U.S. government. To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nation's wealth.

In their Nation article, Cloward and Piven were specific about the kind of "crisis" they were trying to create:

By crisis, we mean a publicly visible disruption in some institutional sphere. Crisis can occur spontaneously (e.g., riots) or as the intended result of tactics of demonstration and protest which either generate institutional disruption or bring unrecognized disruption to public attention.

No matter where the strategy is implemented, it shares the following features:

1. The offensive organizes previously unorganized groups eligible for government benefits but not currently receiving all they can.
2. The offensive seeks to identify new beneficiaries and/or create new benefits.
3. The overarching aim is always to impose new stresses on target systems, with the ultimate goal of forcing their collapse.

SNIP

Sound familiar?

re: #30 maddogg

They were running a special on drool cups down at Wallyworld...

Apparently. I am still going through his infantile tantrum on the other thread...I suspect he is about 14 or so.

re: #34 Dianna

Bye, Dianna! :-)

re: #32 Tigger2005

I don't usually like to bother my neighbors, but there's some in my area with Obama signs, and I think I'm just going to ask them. I really want to know what it is. But I'm afraid it's not going to be a case of ignorance, or belief that all the bad stuff is just Fox News/Rush Limbaugh lies or smears, or anything even halfway logical. It's going to be irrational, it's going to be "feelings." How else could there be Iraqi veterans who SUPPORT the war and also support Obama, and think that he will prosecute the war better than Bush has?

I'm convinced the Iraq Veterans for 0bama are a bunch of kids who signed up to get a free ride to college that are pissed they had to do actual military stuff.

re: #13 kevinmumaw

Where's Excalibur? He's late.

AAARGH! Speak not its name, lest you summon it!

re: #13 kevinmumaw

Where's Excalibur? He's late.

That's Excaliber. He can't spel.

In terms of sheer paucity of experience or credentials, there has never been a Presidential nominee of a major party (let alone an actual candidate) as inexperienced as Obama.

This guy has been given a free ride for months.

Has there ever been a more staggering, surreal and scary race to the White House?

I'm a less than enthusiastic supporter of McCain, but I have made two donations to his campaign so for. I haven't donated money to a political campaign in almost twenty years.

re: #36 kevinmumaw

Apparently. I am still going through his infantile tantrum on the other thread...I suspect he is about 14 or so.

Nah, took a direct hit on his noggin by a 120 mm morter in 'Nam.

re: #35 MandyManners

One of two things must be true. Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit.

I tend to go with the former. However, never underestimate the unadulterated hatred of 60's era "progressives".

re: #35 MandyManners

the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

Favorited! Hiya Mandy!

re: #43 maddogg

Nah, took a direct hit on his noggin by a 120 mm morter in 'Nam.

Thank God for the steel pot, eh?

Obama is not fit to be President and all the telepromters, hi flown but meaningless rhetoric cannot change that. Where the rubber meets the road, he can only hydroplane to disaster.

re: #43 maddogg

Nah, took a direct hit on his noggin by a 120 mm morter in 'Nam.

Please don't dignify Excalibur by implying that he was in Vietnam.

And notice they are not taking up the issue of the voter abuses our military men and women are going to take either. I hope Palin brings this up at the debates. After the "I have a bracelet too!" moment we should draw attention to what the Dems are doing to their votes by NOT counting them.

Yes, the MSM did throw Hillary under the Obama bus, but she almost pulled it out. If they had gone on the offense and clammed up Bill, then I think she would have won the primary. So for me, the up side is that despite the MSM Hillary did well in the end and we could do the same if our side would just learn how to hit hard. More stories about MO and the Obama Truth Goons please! They are not just in MO trying to scare people! This is happening in OH and PA too.

This article should be used along with others to attack Obama. Where are our 527's? Maybe because I live in a solid red state I am not seeing them, but I do not even see them on websites.

This is why we need to support groups like HumanEvents.com Help them get the word out because we all know the MSM isn't going to do it.

re: #11 Sparkizzy

Shana Tova to everyone. May this year be blessed with good things only.

Amen.

re: #38 Sharmuta

I'm convinced the Iraq Veterans for 0bama are a bunch of kids who signed up to get a free ride to college that are pissed they had to do actual military stuff.

We had those guys and gals in the first gulf war and I got stuck mobilizing them. Constant whining and complaining about how they just joined the Reserves/National Guard to get college benefits and a good retirement and they never thought they would have to fight. Broke my heart to be left behind to do their mobs when I could have been there and actually contributing. But I got told I was the "guy" and had to to my job while listening to a small percentage of them complain for their entire 10 day mob process.

I had about 15 out of 2,500 who got out on hardships. I suspect the other 5% of the whiners are the ones that are for Obama.

re: #29 stevieray

The MSM had a swooning crush on Obama last winter.

In 2004 they started swooning over him, Newweak had a big write up on him after the elections saying he would be president some day.

So Michale Moore believes the bailout is a Bush gambit to "rob the treasury"

[Link: www.michaelmoore.com...]

So then, how can your reconcile the Republicans voting against it? And the Dems jumping on it like a cash cow farm.

re: #38 Sharmuta

I'm convinced the Iraq Veterans for 0bama are a bunch of kids who signed up to get a free ride to college that are pissed they had to do actual military stuff.

Not all, but from my observation, likely a substantial majority. Some are just genuine liberals, and have no axe to grind, most are just pissed because they have no discipline or work ethic, no sense of a larger purpose, and they are getting yelled at all the time by a mean NCO, picking up an article 15 here and there. I will do a search, but one of the lefties prominent Iraq vet poster boys claimed he left the military because he disagreed with the war, then it was discovered he was chaptered out for drugs. That is when he discovered his opposition to the war. Go figure.

re: #35 MandyManners

I don't want to believe that the Obama candidacy and the mortgage financing mess are the result of deliberate sabotage, but I also believe that you may have something there with this Cloward-Pliven business. At the very least, some "Progressives" are very likely trying to manipulate events to bring about their long hoped-for revolution.

It's a done deal now, after McCain's recent screw-ups. Obama will be the next president. Nothing can stop him now.

Melanie Phillips says:

Small wonder Camp Obama is sensitive to the association. Klonsky, a professor of education and leader of the New Communist movement, was national secretary of the radical group Students for a Democratic Society. In 1969, he was one of five SDS members arrested at the organization’s Chicago national headquarters for assaulting a police officer, interfering with a firefighter, and inciting mob action. As Global Labor and Politics has reported, Klonsky went on to form a pro-Chinese sect called the October League that later became the Beijing-recognized Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist). As chairman of the party, Klonsky travelled to Beijing itself in 1977 and, literally, toasted the Chinese Stalinist leadership who, in turn, ‘hailed the formation of the CP(ML) as “reflecting the aspirations of the proletariat and working people,” effectively recognizing the group as the all-but-official US Maoist party.’ (Elbaum, Revolution in the Air, 228).
...
Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are involved in an organisation uniting three Marxist parties, a host of ‘60s radicals and terrorists and a new generation of militant activists. That organisation has spawned a spin-off organisation specifically designed to put Barack Obama in the White House and to bring about massive social change across the US.

Barack Obama appears to sit on a nexus between Marxist revolutionary activists, unrepentant former terrorists...

...etc.

Yes, but John McCain also has past associations with communists! For five years, he lived in close quarters with known communists in a hotel in Hanoi, a known headquarters of the North Vietnamese communist movement! McCain spoke with them on a near daily basis, and gave them information. He also was heavily involved in negotiations between the North Vietnamese communists and the American government! One of his former hosts there even said he would endorse McCain for president!

So don't you dare point out Obama's communist past, or we'll point out McCain's communist past!

Hit that "Buzz Up!" with a lizardlanche, and see if this will make front page at Yahoo News.

this is what affirmative action has wrought.

re: #52 JohnnyReb

Thank you for confirming my suspicions.

Yeah- it really sucks when kids learn there are consequences to their actions. Perhaps we should allow them to opt out, but they get none of the benefits they wanted either. Any they already spent can go on their tax bill.

re: #54 Celtic Templar

So Michale Moore believes the bailout is a Bush gambit to "rob the treasury"

[Link: www.michaelmoore.com...]

So then, how can your reconcile the Republicans voting against it? And the Dems jumping on it like a cash cow farm.

Michael Moore is not a smart man, but he knows what love is. Honestly, he has his talking points before he knew what was going on (typical) and had a premature release, something he is probably used to anyway.

re: #57 Peter Verkooijen

It's a done deal now, after McCain's recent screw-ups. Obama will be the next president. Nothing can stop him now.

Chin up, man ... Voting stops him.

re: #57 Peter Verkooijen

You and Eide should set up a play date.

May I coin a term ... the Alinsky Machine?

re: #59 Slumbering Behemoth

Hit that "Buzz Up!" with a lizardlanche, and see if this will make front page at Yahoo News.

Thanks for the reminder, {Sleepy B.} This one should get Buzzed hard too.

If the democrats are willing to vote for certain defeat in Iraq, they are willing to do anything or align with anybody to win to win the White House. And the MSM is complicit. If tanking the economy guarantees the dems the White House, they'd do it. They tried the same nonsense with drilling. Nothing is beneath them.

re: #54 Celtic Templar

So Michale Moore believes the bailout is a Bush gambit to "rob the treasury"

[Link: www.michaelmoore.com...]

So then, how can your reconcile the Republicans voting against it? And the Dems jumping on it like a cash cow farm.

Besides, the Dems have already looted the Treasury with their socialized CRA mortgage lending.

re: #66 Sharmuta

Done!

Time brings out all things...
The media as a 5th Column for anything that hurts America...
Acorn's Community Organizers as communist plants/agitators etc...
Has been Terrorists and a variety of enemies of Western Civilization fawning over one candidate...
Not everything can be hidden from everyone forever and this may be the single biggest landslide in US election history since Reagan...

re: #48 Son of the Black Dog

Please don't dignify Excalibur by implying that he was in Vietnam.

I'm not implying anything, he stated that he was directly.

just one of the bad deeds or associations that melanie phillips has listed abt. obama would have landed a non-minority candidate in the crapper.
obama, however gets a pass for EVERYTHING from the dems and msm.

re: #57 Peter Verkooijen

It's a done deal now, after McCain's recent screw-ups. Obama will be the next president. Nothing can stop him now.

Put down that Kool-Aid!

Have you really fallen for the propaganda?

This race is just getting started. Wild swings are in the offing. The last five days will be an apocalypse of mendacious verbiage and dirty tricks the likes of which we've never seen.

And then America will go into the voting booth, in deathly silence.

...

And then we'll throw out all the votes, unveil our faked Diebold ballots, and McCain will win handily!

re: #48 Son of the Black Dog

Please don't dignify Excalibur by implying that he was in Vietnam.

Does he know John Kerry?
I heard John Kerry was in Vietnam.

re: #43 maddogg

Did he say who he was with? I asked and got no reply when I called him on his 'I suppose you're one of those I put myself in harm's way for' comment.

For all I know he couldabeen ridin' a desk in the rear in '69.

fresh load of /sarc tags, coming through...
(just in time...)

re: #11 Sparkizzy

Shana Tova to everyone. May this year be blessed with good things only.

May you and your family be blessed in the coming year...
/You know what's great about a german being married to a jewish girl?
We get twice as many holidays as everyone else...
although when she said something about the year of awe.. I told her it was really the year of shock and awe..
lucky i can run fast!
Shana Tova

re: #75 Cap'n DOC

Did he say who he was with? I asked and got no reply when I called him on his 'I suppose you're one of those I put myself in harm's way for' comment.

For all I know he couldabeen ridin' a desk in the rear in '69.

I don't know, I lost interest and left quite a while ago.

re: #58 zombie

Geeesh, Zombie - do ya havetabe so harsh?

re: #75 Cap'n DOC

Did he say who he was with? I asked and got no reply when I called him on his 'I suppose you're one of those I put myself in harm's way for' comment.

For all I know he couldabeen ridin' a desk in the rear in '69.

He seemed like a 2-star arsehole to me...

No, there has never been. Add on top of all of these "character references" the elusiveness, inconsistency and lack of specificity to his proposals and you have a complete cipher. Can anyone really say what this man will do if he gets in the WH? At best, he will be a rubber stamp for the socialist Pelosi and Reid Congress. At worst, he will abuse his power in the same manner he's abused our rights during this campaign (truth squads, etc) to a horrifying extent. Who knows how bad things will go for all of us?

Unless McCain can pull this election out, I see dark, dark days for the US.

re: #55 kevinmumaw

Not all, but from my observation, likely a substantial majority. Some are just genuine liberals, and have no axe to grind, most are just pissed because they have no discipline or work ethic, no sense of a larger purpose, and they are getting yelled at all the time by a mean NCO, picking up an article 15 here and there. I will do a search, but one of the lefties prominent Iraq vet poster boys claimed he left the military because he disagreed with the war, then it was discovered he was chaptered out for drugs. That is when he discovered his opposition to the war. Go figure.

why does this not surprise me? A large number of the ones I have seen are fairly young. 18 to 25. To me, that means they knew damn well there was a war going on and that the ng would be called upon if it hadn't already been called upon (2003.) I had a very frank discussion with my daughter who was struggling with college tuition and her desire to sign up for the guard. She signed up and was stationed in AK. While there, she and her new hubby went full time army. they both re-upped when their terms ended and are both now sargeants. Another 12 years and they can retire.

re: #78 maddogg

Must be stuck in a misspelled rock somewhere.

re: #71 maddogg

I'm not implying anything, he stated that he was directly.

I wonder if that's why his nic is Excaliber (gun reference) and not Excalibur?

/and I saw his comments on the earlier thread. yikes.

re: #66 Sharmuta

Thanks for the reminder, {Sleepy B.} This one should get Buzzed hard too.

Heh, I need to get buzzed hard, but it's too early in the day, and I still have stuff to do.

/sure picked the wrong week to quit free-basing jet fuel

Palm Beach county is on its third set of voting machines and they are still having problems. If Obama doesn't win look for problems in Palm Beach county again... the heavy democrat county, run by democrats.

re: #74 jwb7605

Does he know John Kerry?
I heard John Kerry was in Vietnam.

Maybe what he meant to say was he was in VVAW...like this guy.

re: #57 Peter Verkooijen

And exactly how is Obama immune from repercussions from his own screw-ups?

re: #32 Tigger2005

I don't usually like to bother my neighbors, but there's some in my area with Obama signs, and I think I'm just going to ask them. I really want to know what it is. But I'm afraid it's not going to be a case of ignorance, or belief that all the bad stuff is just Fox News/Rush Limbaugh lies or smears, or anything even halfway logical. It's going to be irrational, it's going to be "feelings." How else could there be Iraqi veterans who SUPPORT the war and also support Obama, and think that he will prosecute the war better than Bush has?

Don't bother. I have tried so hard with 2 of my brothers. I have sent them so many links from LGF that I just can't do it anymore all they so is send me back emails like " I hear John McCain wears woman's underwear."

re: #19 Adrenalyn

yes, but the gun in this knife fight is the internet

people have been getting word out about Obama

and the democrat's killing any oversight of fannie and Freddie

lastly, don't believe the polls

it should be a landslide for McCain

but he has to unleash the hounds and NOT play nice

The way things are shaping up, it's more likely to be a landslide for Obama. The Republicans have dropped the ball badly today. Already, things were trending to Obama. If the nation is in full fledged financial meltdown come November, there just won't be any way for McCain to win enough swing states.

If Republicans are going to vote against this package, why should Democrats bail them out by forcing it through on a straight party-line vote? If the package is passed and it succeeds, it saves Republican bacon. If it is passed but it fails to stop the economic free fall, the Democrats own all the blame.

Boehner sees this. He tried to get it passed. But the public back home is in a foul mood, and not open to reason. Republican rank and file in Congress are already facing steep odds this election. If they offend their core voters, they lose whatever chance they might have had. Sorry to say this, but the Republican rank and file has miscalculated on this one. The consequences won't be pretty.

re: #82 Eowyn2

why does this not surprise me? A large number of the ones I have seen are fairly young. 18 to 25. To me, that means they knew damn well there was a war going on and that the ng would be called upon if it hadn't already been called upon (2003.) I had a very frank discussion with my daughter who was struggling with college tuition and her desire to sign up for the guard. She signed up and was stationed in AK. While there, she and her new hubby went full time army. they both re-upped when their terms ended and are both now sargeants. Another 12 years and they can retire.

That's excellent. 9 1/2 left for me.

re: #84 gop_patriot

I wonder if that's why his nic is Excaliber (gun reference) and not Excalibur?

/and I saw his comments on the earlier thread. yikes.

Occam's razor. He just can't spell.

re: #84 gop_patriot

I wonder if that's why his nic is Excaliber (gun reference) and not Excalibur?

/and I saw his comments on the earlier thread. yikes.

After earlier comments, I just called him butterknife, didn't notice the spelling reference

Pelosi was awfully charming. As was that jokester Barney Frank.

re: #58 zombie

Hey, I used to work with a woman whose brother-in-law was Mike Klonsky! 100% true...

Zom, did you get the email I sent you about this Sunday?

mccain should win by a landslide against such a loser.

re: #96 nyc redneck

should yes, but will he?

re: #58 zombie

You are so good!

right on m'man.

re: #61 Sharmuta

Thank you for confirming my suspicions.

Yeah- it really sucks when kids learn there are consequences to their actions. Perhaps we should allow them to opt out, but they get none of the benefits they wanted either. Any they already spent can go on their tax bill.

I am not sure that was confirmation, just my impressions. But after 22 years I have a good ear for sailors just bitching or sea lawyers with an personal axe to grind.

And we did let them opt out under certain circumstances. Family/monetary hardship and the like. It was just such a small number that actually had a real concern was the issue, significantly less than 1%. Each person recalled went through at least 3 suitability interviews, first myself and then Legal (or a Chaplain) and then their unit Commander. If they got a pass on two out of three, we discharged them for convenience of the government. No harm, no foul.

Oddly enough, we got more people who wanted to come in and stay on active duty and reenlisted regular Navy for 4 years plus when they got recalled. I can't remember the exact number, but it was pretty big. My guys were complaining about the number of regular Navy contracts they had to pump out.

re: #94 pat

Pelosi was awfully charming. As was that jokester Barney Frank.

can anyone understand what barney frank is saying? is he speaking english?

re: #56 FloridaAnole

I don't want to believe that the Obama candidacy and the mortgage financing mess are the result of deliberate sabotage, but I also believe that you may have something there with this Cloward-Pliven business. At the very least, some "Progressives" are very likely trying to manipulate events to bring about their long hoped-for revolution.

Why not? Wasn't it Dodd and Barney Frank that approved and pushed the sale of mortgages to those who couldn't pay them back? Two of the most liberal politicians in the government, followed by their commie friend and cohort, BHO.

That is what happens when we treat everyone the same, reality sets in and banks fail and the stock market gets a correction. Good thing that I am young enough to weather this one out. Just a little pissed that Republicans rolled over on their bellies with this by letting them get away with it in the first place.

re: #90 lostlakehiker

I'm not sure which way you're arguing. The bailout bill is enormously unpopular with voters. How do the Republicans get punished for not voting for it in its current form?

At the very least, if the bill gets changed to the Republicans' liking, they can take full credit for those changes, and if it gets changed to go through on a straight party-line vote by the Democrats, the Republicans can assign all the blame to the Dems.

re: #97 DoubleU

should yes, but will he?

i think he will.

re: #100 nyc redneck

can anyone understand what barney frank is saying? is he speaking english?

You can understand the first few words but he tapers off into some kind of mush language ... How do these people get elected?

re: #104 Celtic Templar

You can understand the first few words but he tapers off into some kind of mush language ... How do these people get elected?

He's a gay, Jewish leftist from Massachusetts. How did he not get elected?

re: #100 nyc redneck

can anyone understand what barney frank is saying? is he speaking english?

He sounds like something out of a Hanna Barberra cartoon. I expect to see him come out wearing a big floppy cartoon hat or something.

re: #106 kevinmumaw

He sounds like something out of a Hanna Barberra cartoon. I expect to see him come out wearing a big floppy cartoon hat or something.

Up Ding .... still laughing ... Suffering succotash

re: #105 JSK1121

He's a gay, Jewish leftist from Massachusetts. How did he not get elected?

And I soooo believe he's going to services tonight and the next two days.

Indeed the media has been absolutely negligent. I wonder how many have been paid off? Seriously. A little grease here and there to keep the media hacks drooling over The One? The frenzy to have Obama elected has reached outrageous proportions. Now, they are busily taping Sarah Palin's every statement in the hopes of recording a "Gotcha!" moment. It's utterly contemptible. I hope the MSM all go Bankrupt -- the sooner they're off the air, the better for everyone! And meanwhile -- as they attack, harass and abuse Sarah Palin in every conceivable way (and, oh, yeah, someone should inform the dolts that SHE's NOT running for POTUS), they abjectly ignore the Obama corrupt, slime machine.

re: #90 lostlakehiker

The way things are shaping up, it's more likely to be a landslide for Obama. The Republicans have dropped the ball badly today. Already, things were trending to Obama. If the nation is in full fledged financial meltdown come November, there just won't be any way for McCain to win enough swing states.

If Republicans are going to vote against this package, why should Democrats bail them out by forcing it through on a straight party-line vote? If the package is passed and it succeeds, it saves Republican bacon. If it is passed but it fails to stop the economic free fall, the Democrats own all the blame.

Boehner sees this. He tried to get it passed. But the public back home is in a foul mood, and not open to reason. Republican rank and file in Congress are already facing steep odds this election. If they offend their core voters, they lose whatever chance they might have had. Sorry to say this, but the Republican rank and file has miscalculated on this one. The consequences won't be pretty.

Defeatist.

re: #90 lostlakehiker

The way things are shaping up, it's more likely to be a landslide for Obama. The Republicans have dropped the ball badly today. Already, things were trending to Obama. If the nation is in full fledged financial meltdown come November, there just won't be any way for McCain to win enough swing states.

If Republicans are going to vote against this package, why should Democrats bail them out by forcing it through on a straight party-line vote? If the package is passed and it succeeds, it saves Republican bacon. If it is passed but it fails to stop the economic free fall, the Democrats own all the blame.

Boehner sees this. He tried to get it passed. But the public back home is in a foul mood, and not open to reason. Republican rank and file in Congress are already facing steep odds this election. If they offend their core voters, they lose whatever chance they might have had. Sorry to say this, but the Republican rank and file has miscalculated on this one. The consequences won't be pretty.

You a betting man?

ACORN, the new tip of the Cloward-Piven spear

In 1970, one of George Wiley's protégés, Wade Rathke -- like Bill Ayers, a member of the radical Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) -- was sent to found the Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now. While NWRO had made a good start, it alone couldn't accomplish the Cloward-Piven goals. Rathke's group broadened the offensive to include a wide array of low income "rights." Shortly thereafter they changed "Arkansas" to "Association of" and ACORN went nationwide.

Today ACORN is involved in a wide array of activities, including housing, voting rights, illegal immigration and other issues. According to ACORN's website: "ACORN is the nation's largest grassroots community organization of low-and moderate-income people with over 400,000 member families organized into more than 1,200 neighborhood chapters in 110 cities across the country," It is perhaps the largest radical group in the U.S. and has been cited for widespread criminal activity on many fronts.

Make Obama defend this.

re: #58 zombie

Reminds me a little of that Mad TV bit. But only a little, I like yours better.

McCain is an idiot. "This is not the time to assess blame." leaves everyone in the world with the impression that the GOP was the cause of this fiasco. Particularly since the De4ms did not hesitate to blame McCain as resently as yesterday for the crisis they caused. It is the time to asses blame. in spades.

Melanie is a genius. No truth like that of a former liberal.

re: #84 gop_patriot

I wonder if that's why his nic is Excaliber (gun reference) and not Excalibur?

/and I saw his comments on the earlier thread. yikes.

that's the dude that bragged his IQ was 122 and served in Nam? right?
Crazy man..who talks about their IQ?
I've met alot of military people and I've never met anyone that mentions their IQ in discussion...jeez

re: #4 galloping granny

Now if only someone would pay attention. Obama should not be a candidate for POTUS.

Obama's associations would likely disqualify him from a military or civilian contractor's security clearance, but half the people of the USA are considering him for President.

re: #116 HoosierHoops

that's the dude that bragged his IQ was 122 and served in Nam? right?
Crazy man..who talks about their IQ?
I've met alot of military people and I've never met anyone that mentions their IQ in discussion...jeez

those who can, do
those who can't, brag

re: #11 Sparkizzy

That made me smile. It was all, gnash, wail, grrr (what I was reading and feeling), then your post.

Nice :)

I doubt that most of the MSM knows "Subversives for Obama" (the "Alinksy Machine") exists.

It's certain to have concealed its existence VERY carefully. No more mistakes about trumpeting "Weather Underground" and the like. As with its ACORN component, it's trying diligently to stay beneath the radar.

The majority of the MSM is merely a herd of sycophant, de-facto, fellow travelers. The Machine cultivates them and uses them, playing to their prejudices and desires. And since their "hearts are pure", so to speak, the evidence coming out regarding the Machine's existence is no big deal to them. Though they may not be Marxists themselves, it's simply not a threat to their cap-L Liberal word-view.

/if worst comes to worst, many of them will be in for an Orwellian surprise

re: #108 stuiec

Actually he probably will. He's a libral which usually= a holiday sort of Jew.

re: #107 Celtic Templar

Up Ding .... still laughing ... Suffering succotash

Don't get me wrong, I love Bugs Bunny as much as the next guy, I just wouldn't vote for that rascally rabbit.

re: #5 CyanSnowHawk

Perhaps the October surprise will be the MSM doing it's job again.

/Not bloody likely, I'm afraid.

No, not likely. I was at the McCain/Palin rally today, so later I watched the local news coverage of it. The NBC affiliate did something I haven't seen before. They showed the rally and then gave an entire segment to Obama by satellite. Obama was not in town so they did a satellite feed (didn't say where he was) and interviewed him about the McCain rally, etc. So there he was, bigger than life, getting airtime in Columbus, Ohio, when he wasn't anywhere near Columbus.

McCain's problem is that he's acting like a Senator. He's seeking compromise and not wanting to hurt feelings. He needs 30 days of bridge burning hostility to knock Barack down. McCain enjoyed a lead in the polls when he got nasty and mocked the One. He needs to get back to that with Palin mocking right beside him. The One has found new life since he became a complete prick. Negative campaigning works and Obama has learned that lesson well in the last month. No one even remembers that he claimed to be above it.

re: #123 ciaospirit

gosh, could they be just a little less 'nuanced'?

/you know...

re: #124 skree

McCain's problem is that he's acting like a Senator. He's seeking compromise and not wanting to hurt feelings. He needs 30 days of bridge burning hostility to knock Barack down. McCain enjoyed a lead in the polls when he got nasty and mocked the One. He needs to get back to that with Palin mocking right beside him. The One has found new life since he became a complete prick. Negative campaigning works and Obama has learned that lesson well in the last month. No one even remembers that he claimed to be above it.

Exactly

Here's a misleading headline and biased article.

McCain defends running mate Palin COLUMBUS, Ohio (AFP)

I can tell you from being there that McCain spoke only briefly about Sarah Palin to praise her (as would be expected), not defend her. Most of his speech was about the current financial crisis and taxes and other issues.

On another note, Katie Couric should be fired. Her blatant hate for Palin is obvious in every interview I've seen. She's lost all objectivity if she ever had any.

The media are pro-Obama. There is no other explanation. We have state run media.

re: #103 nyc redneck
racist!

re: #123 ciaospirit

Somebody's getting mega bucks from the Obama camp -- I think that's virtually guaranteed...The MSM doesn't just up and "do favors" -- ditto for that Larry King and the Dinner Jacket -- how much did CNN rake in from Iran, eh?

Dear senator McCain,
LOOSE THE HOUNDS ALLREADY!
Seeesh.....your kill us ova heaah......
I'm hoping for an add campaign to blast the Nobama outta the water!I can't find Swiftboaters in the yellow pages.
Am I being to optimistic?

And yet despite all of this, virtually no-one in the mainstream media is asking any questions.

MSM = Quislings

MSM = Quislings

MSM = Quislings

It bears repeating.

re: #57 Peter Verkooijen

It's a done deal now, after McCain's recent screw-ups. Obama will be the next president. Nothing can stop him now.

Elucidate, please.

re: #116 HoosierHoops

that's the dude that bragged his IQ was 122 and served in Nam? right?
Crazy man..who talks about their IQ?
I've met alot of military people and I've never met anyone that mentions their IQ in discussion...jeez

Never mind the military, who brags about an IQ of 122? He'd be the slow child in my house.

re: #105 JSK1121

You forgot the male prostitution ring he ran, and his "barely legal" (at the time) boy friend.

re: #127 ciaospirit

The MSM is NOT objective -- they are partisan, ideological hacks...promoting their "cause" which is to get Obama elected.

re: #132 Ojoe

MSM = Quislings

MSM = Quislings

MSM = Quislings

It bears repeating.

MSM = Marxist support machine

re: #109 J.S.

Indeed the media has been absolutely negligent. I wonder how many have been paid off? Seriously. A little grease here and there to keep the media hacks drooling over The One? The frenzy to have Obama elected has reached outrageous proportions. Now, they are busily taping Sarah Palin's every statement in the hopes of recording a "Gotcha!" moment. It's utterly contemptible. I hope the MSM all go Bankrupt -- the sooner they're off the air, the better for everyone! And meanwhile -- as they attack, harass and abuse Sarah Palin in every conceivable way (and, oh, yeah, someone should inform the dolts that SHE's NOT running for POTUS), they abjectly ignore the Obama corrupt, slime machine.

don't worry.
didn't the msm beat up on dan quale unmercifully but bush sr. won notwithstanding? sarah is way more on the ball than the man who couldn't spell tater.

re: #95 mikalm

Zom, did you get the email I sent you about this Sunday?

I did, but I'm so insanely busy these days I have no time for anything - - including writing this comment! Back to the salt mines!

re: #73 zombie

Verbiage. That word keeps coming up today. Does everybody the Word of the Day email from Dictionary.com?

re: #114 pat

McCain is an idiot. "This is not the time to assess blame." leaves everyone in the world with the impression that the GOP was the cause of this fiasco. Particularly since the De4ms did not hesitate to blame McCain as resently as yesterday for the crisis they caused. It is the time to asses blame. in spades.

McCain is right, because as soon as he or someone tries to ascribe blame for the housing mess where it belongs (the Dems and their plants in the industry), then the MSM is gonna say even louder that he's trying to politicize the bailout (like Pelosi actually did, but the MSM ain't gonna say that). It's gonna be up to the GOP 527s to sound the clarion call on this, so McCain doesn't have to.

re: #130 J.S.

Remember just before the beginning of the war, CNN admitted they suppressed negative stories about Saddam in order to maintain their access?

re: #137 ciaospirit

Good one.

They haven't taken my scissors away yet so I'm sitting here making an Ass Hat for O'Reilly. Just a hunch that he will be one on his show tonight.

I'm feeling kinda wild. Unleash the Barracuda. Just rip into it, Johnny Mac.
The Democrats are weak. Obama has a false sense of security. The economy is in the toilet for the rest of the quarter any way. We just may make history by saving the country from socialism, against all odds. It's nice for your side to win. This year it would be glorious, inspiring----because it isn't supposed to happen.

re: #108 stuiec

And I soooo believe he's going to services tonight and the next two days.

Yeah right, this guy, like other leftists of my faith, are only Jewish when it's politically expedient. If he does end up at services, I bet there will be a Cantor accompanied by a guitarist with dread locks. One of THOSE synagogues....

re: #142 vagabond trader

Yes I remember.

Quislings, Quislings, Quislings.

re: #141 talon_262

Err, meant "McCain is right, because as soon as he or someone in his campaign tries to ascribe blame"

PIMF...

re: #128 FrogMarch

The media are pro-Obama. There is no other explanation. We have state run media.

It's NOT "state-run".

/not YET

re: #117 HDrepub

Obama's associations would likely disqualify him from a military or civilian contractor's security clearance, but half the people of the USA are considering him for President.

Probably a quarter of the people in the USA have no idea of the seriousness and extent of Obama's connections and past ideology (with the greatest respect to the wonderful Melanie Phillips, the MSM isn't just not asking questions, they're hiding the truth about Obama's beginnings in politics).

Of the remaining 25% of Barry's supporters, half of these don't believe the RNC's claims about Obama's radicalism are anything but hyperbolic spin, and the other 12% like what they they have heard about it.

re: #140 CyanSnowHawk

Verbiage. That word keeps coming up today. Does everybody the Word of the Day email from Dictionary.com?

Not me. If others use it, it was sheer coincidence!

Or maybe because there is so much verbiage flying around, the word naturally comes up. Just like the word "touchdown!" might be said frequently on Super Bowl Day.

re: #138 nyc redneck

Apparently, the MSM has dredged up some "recording" of her (without either her knowledge or permission), and now they're all running about like sharks smelling blood and screeching about it...I just hope the American public is sophisticated enough not to buy into the crap that's slung out by the MSM...

re: #129 DoubleU

racist!

don't tell my black friends.

re: #127 ciaospirit

Here's a misleading headline and biased article.

I can tell you from being there that McCain spoke only briefly about Sarah Palin to praise her (as would be expected), not defend her. Most of his speech was about the current financial crisis and taxes and other issues.

On another note, Katie Couric should be fired. Her blatant hate for Palin is obvious in every interview I've seen. She's lost all objectivity if she ever had any.

Katie Couric is Dan Rather's replacement. I could stop there. But - Funny enough - since Katie took Dan's old spot, viewer ratings for CBS news tanked & are devastatingly horrible. The only reason they won't fire her is because Katie fits the agenda and biases of the higher-ups at CBS.

We live in an era of left-wing media hacks. They are unprofessional and lazy and biased, and they do not care. The only thing that matters is manipulating the news to make their chosen candidate look good.

re: #73 zombie

Put down that Kool-Aid!

Have you really fallen for the propaganda?

This race is just getting started. Wild swings are in the offing. The last five days will be an apocalypse of mendacious verbiage and dirty tricks the likes of which we've never seen.

And then America will go into the voting booth, in deathly silence.

...

And then we'll throw out all the votes, unveil our faked Diebold ballots, and McCain will win handily!

Seriously, how much impact do you think a late October surprise is going to have on the election? Millions of people now vote early or absentee. Obviously those voters are the true believers who are not going to alter their opinion lightly. But I wonder if it would be more effective to unleash the hounds no later than mid-month -- for one thing, to influence the early voters, and two, to allow time for it to take root and grow, since the MSM is obviously not going to publicize anything that hurts Obama until they absolutely have to.

We have certainly had a chilling preview of the media and attacks on free speech under an Obama administration. It'll make politically correct seem quaint.

re: #142 vagabond trader

Yes. And during the war with Lebanon in 2006 Nick Robertson was given a "tour" by Hezbollah, and Robertson acted as their propagandist, spouting all the terrorist's "talking points." yeah, what a fine institution -- supporting terrorists -- that CNN is...

re: #146 Ojoe

Yes I remember.

Quislings, Quislings, Quislings.

Makes me want to quote some memorable Ezra Pound poetry, but I can't remember any.

re: #121 vagabond trader

Must be tough for him, listening to the Torah portion on Yom Kippur.

re: #138 nyc redneck

don't worry.
didn't the msm beat up on dan quale unmercifully but bush sr. won notwithstanding? sarah is way more on the ball than the man who couldn't spell tater.

I noticed something today as the news played in the background. Obama with all his "big" poll numbers, walked out to a crowd where the background behind him was not even full and the "roars" of the crowd were quiet enough that my gang all by themselves can outdo the noise. And Sarah Palin - who is "losing her popularity" - is still playing to standing room only crowds and getting big ovations according to a lizard who saw her today or yesterday.

re: #157 David IV of Georgia

Makes me want to quote some memorable Ezra Pound poetry, but I can't remember any.

I would Pound you for that ... but I don't know any either.

howzzit goin'?

re: #154 doppelganglander

Seriously, how much impact do you think a late October surprise is going to have on the election? Millions of people now vote early or absentee. Obviously those voters are the true believers who are not going to alter their opinion lightly. But I wonder if it would be more effective to unleash the hounds no later than mid-month -- for one thing, to influence the early voters, and two, to allow time for it to take root and grow, since the MSM is obviously not going to publicize anything that hurts Obama until they absolutely have to.

Obama's entire career is one long October Revolution surprise.

re: #155 vagabond trader

I fart in his general direction

From the "It Had to Happen" category: Obama fetish reaches operatic proportions!
Came across these newly plastered Obama worship posters tonight.
get ready to blech!

Hat tip Buzzsawmonkey.

re: #163 NoSubmission

Breaking 1st commandment if you ask me

re: #160 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I would Pound you for that ... but I don't know any either.

howzzit goin'?

Just enjoying the blue orange skies of Dallas.

re: #163 NoSubmission

Skinny wuss can barely pick up a b'ball.

You know the democrats are at fault because they are not calling for investigations and hearings over the matter.

re: #13 kevinmumaw

Where's Excalibur? He's late.

Wending his way through the spellchecker.

re: #136 J.S.

The MSM is NOT objective -- they are partisan, ideological hacks...promoting their "cause" which is to get Obama elected.

Did he run the prostitution ring, or did the boyfriend?

Ugh. It still boggles my mind that Barney Frank is in political office right now; grandstanding and preaching at us about how the awful Republicans messed up the economy, when it was he and his Dem friends who did it... Yet just a few short years ago there was a bisexual prostitution ring being run out of his apartment. Our Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves.

re: #163 NoSubmission

From the "It Had to Happen" category: Obama fetish reaches operatic proportions!
Came across these newly plastered Obama worship posters tonight.
get ready to blech!

Hat tip Buzzsawmonkey.

Yeah, but remember what happened to George Reeves and Christopher Reeve!

re: #140 CyanSnowHawk

Verbiage. That word keeps coming up today. Does everybody get the Word of the Day email from Dictionary.com?

PIMF.

re: #161 zombie

Obama's entire career is one long October Revolution surprise.

From your link:

* The Russian banks were all nationalized.
* Control of the factories was given to the soviets.
* Private bank accounts were confiscated.
* The Church's properties (including bank accounts) were seized.
* Wages were fixed at higher rates than during the war and a shorter, eight-hour working day was introduced.
* All foreign debts were repudiated.

Yep, that's Obama in a nutshell.

re: #165 David IV of Georgia

Just enjoying the blue orange skies of Dallas.

*grin*
DAMN, you just made me stick my head out the door to see what was happening!

re: #170 zombie

Yeah, but remember what happened to George Reeves and Christopher Reeve!

Eerie! And most correct, zombie.

deception

The more you dig, the more left wing greed and outright theft you find. Here is this little bit i never even heard about until just now:

Veterans for Peace stole $300,000 of Katrina Aid, then bragged about the great things they did. That's one of Cindy Sheehan's groups.

There was an entire thread at DU which magically went "poof".

32tigger2005-- it is irrational. 'Oby is neat'. 'He is Kewl'. 'He is Nifty'.'He is phat'. 'How fun it will be to cast a vote for the black guy'. The paper had an interview of a black actor or director, D.L.Hugley (I don't know who he is-sp)but he said that his kids are in love with oby and can't understand why the Presidency isn't just given to him; why he even has to run.
I wish GWB had pushed back from the beginning on all this derangement. If he had sent out the Secret Service or the FBI to interview some of the threatening creeps, not first amendment stuff, but the noose stuff and the bulls-eye or rifle-scope stuff.It would have slowed dn the rabid weirdness and given a measure of respect for the office.
So then the actor's kids would have some respect for the office. Not just see that a smiling caricature should be awarded it.

Now, unfortunately, thanks to those IDIOTS called House Republicans, any attack ads related to these matters are on hold, due to the financial meltdown - since any attack ad now would seem nearly unpatriotic.

I despise these congressmen so much! They wasted 12 years in the House, and are now trying to pretend that they're "Fiscal conservatives"... and making it impossible for McCain to resume his campaign in earnest.

re: #128 FrogMarch

The media are pro-Obama. There is no other explanation. We have state run media.

Then support the efforts of HumanEvents.com Help them get the word out about Obama because the MSM will not.

re: #164 Ojoe

Breaking 1st commandment if you ask me

Isn't it sickening? Its the smug face!

When I try to tell anyone about the numerous connections, they feel it just can't be true, because if it was, they'd be hearing about it on TV. Not from a friend who read it on the internet.

In other words, the lack of coverage covers his behind.

re: #180 NoSubmission

Obama's face makes my hairs stand up

re: #168 debutaunt

Wending his way through the spell spielchecker.

Preview is your friend

re: #116 HoosierHoops

that's the dude that bragged his IQ was 122 and served in Nam? right?
Crazy man..who talks about their IQ?
I've met alot of military people and I've never met anyone that mentions their IQ in discussion...jeez

Maybe he works in military intelligence.

re: #158 stuiec

Must be tough for him, listening to the Torah portion on Yom Kippur.

Better than Purim.

124-skree- exactly, M'Cain has got to be aprick. this guy oby is thin-skinned.Ridicule, laughter, saying he is novice, a tyro will get him going.

Either,

deceived, or

not deceived.

There is no in between, or grey area, if you will.

People are either deceived, or not deceived.

It's really easy to tell the difference.

re: #148 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's NOT "state-run".

/not YET

What's weird is that the media are all behaving like pod people; from Campbell Brown to Katie Couric to Brian Wilson to MSDNC Spokesturd Keith Olbermann, they all have this fanatical, crazed glare in their eyes whenever they encounter any person or information inimical to Obama. It's almost as if there was a mass hypnosis session for journalists last year. (Evidently the Fox folks were snubbed and not invited).

re: #185 Moe Katz

Maybe he works in military intelligence.

hey now!

re: #134 doppelganglander

Never mind the military, who brags about an IQ of 122? He'd be the slow child in my house.

LOL
so i take it 122 isn't the best IQ on the thread?
/ would you consider taking in my 16 year old for awhile? All he cares about is sports and girls..wonder where that came from?

re: #188 republic

Many people wish to be humbugged. Winston Churchill said that about the peace deals proposed by Hitler.

re: #163 NoSubmission

From the "It Had to Happen" category: Obama fetish reaches operatic proportions!
Came across these newly plastered Obama worship posters tonight.
get ready to blech!

Hat tip Buzzsawmonkey.

Normally I don't deface anything, no matter how repugnant, but that is just begging me to scrawl "I AM EGO" or some such on it in big letters if I ever see one.

re: #159 galloping granny

I noticed something today as the news played in the background. Obama with all his "big" poll numbers, walked out to a crowd where the background behind him was not even full and the "roars" of the crowd were quiet enough that my gang all by themselves can outdo the noise. And Sarah Palin - who is "losing her popularity" - is still playing to standing room only crowds and getting big ovations according to a lizard who saw her today or yesterday.

yay,
see, sarah has truly connected to the american public.
we favor her. she has won the crowd.
we see the evil predators who are have no honor.
couric and gibson are underhanded, sneaky, nothing admirable abt, them.
they look bad for trying to trick her and manipulate the situation in the opponents favor.
human nature recoils at such unfairness.

BBL ...work...

re: #169 gop_patriot

You have got to be kidding me...(up until the mortgage meltdown mess, I had never heard of Barney Frank -- maybe that was a good thing...What a disgusting piece of work that -- cough, cough -- individual -- is...)

re: #194 nyc redneck

having worked in television I notice these things. Notice how the same crowd roars are used for anything on MTV, the Today show when they are outside, and American idol.

re: #161 zombie

Obama's entire career is one long October Revolution surprise.

Fitting since he had the Octoberists Band at his big rally (concert) in Portland. Funny how the msm never reported that most were there to see the band. They usually play the Russian anthem as their opening but felt it was would be a little too telling since Obama would be speaking.

re: #178 SouthAmericanWay

I despise these congressmen so much! They wasted 12 years in the House, and are now trying to pretend that they're "Fiscal conservatives"... and making it impossible for McCain to resume his campaign in earnest.

Two words - term limits

re: #196 J.S.

Yes, his earlier claim to fame was covering for a boy toy who turned tricks out of Barney's townhouse.

re: #191 HoosierHoops

LOL
so i take it 122 isn't the best IQ on the thread?
/ would you consider taking in my 16 year old for awhile? All he cares about is sports and girls..wonder where that came from?

Liking sports and girls is a lot smarter than bragging about your IQ on the internet. (Mine's about 167.)
_/sarc

Yet another article that needs to be printed up on millions of pamphlets and airdropped throughout urban America. The only way, I'm thinking.

Check these out, in the same vein:
Bad Company: Radical Associates/Friends of BHO p1
Bad Company pt 2.
Bad Company pt 3.
Bad Company pt 4.

Not many views, this is really good stuff, too. This guy's got pretty good production going on, and appears to have the facts on Obama straight.
All by a ( I think ) black man calling himself "livingonplanetZ". The videos are top-notch. This page needs to be made "viral" if anything. Go see.

Something has to give.
Barak is bad news indeed, and if Sen. McCain doesn't nail him on ALL this, the Fannie/Freddie connections, the communist connections, all of it, then I may have no choice but to conclude that he doesn't even want to win. I've had that hunch all along anyway, this would just cinch it. If some people in their PJ's with a webcam can create good 10-minute messages, how come a man with microphones and network coverage can't even TOUCH these subjects?

Besides, when has he done anything in the past 10 years that hasn't helped the Democrat party? The pre-counter to Rush's Op.Chaos was the selection of McCain by Democrats, maybe even because it was known he'd "take a dive", so to speak.

Soros as Marcellus Wallace: You might feel a sting, Johnny. That's just Pride, f**kin with ya.

/tinfoil (sorta) off

re: #193 David IV of Georgia
I do have a nice big fat black magic marker....

re: #194 nyc redneck

yay,
see, sarah has truly connected to the american public.
we favor her. she has won the crowd.
we see the evil predators who are have no honor.
couric and gibson are underhanded, sneaky, nothing admirable abt, them.
they look bad for trying to trick her and manipulate the situation in the opponents favor.
human nature recoils at such unfairness.

One of the things that every now and then one of the representatives has said on the news this afternoon is that ultimately the people they represent will not stand for a yes vote on a bailout. And every single one of them is up for re-election.

re: #189 FloridaAnole

What's weird is that the media are all behaving like pod people; from Campbell Brown to Katie Couric to Brian Wilson to MSDNC Spokesturd Keith Olbermann, they all have this fanatical, crazed glare in their eyes whenever they encounter any person or information inimical to Obama. It's almost as if there was a mass hypnosis session for journalists last year. (Evidently the Fox folks were snubbed and not invited).

He is the first true Capital-L Liberal candidate since ol' whatssisface ... McGovern. He is, literally, someone they can believe in. Faced with the possibility of more Slick and Hillary, they are desperate. They are VERY desperate.

re: #199 Maui Girl

I despise these congressmen so much! They wasted 12 years in the House, and are now trying to pretend that they're "Fiscal conservatives"... and making it impossible for McCain to resume his campaign in earnest.

Two words - term limits

One word - YES!

re: #81 MJBrutus

No, there has never been. Add on top of all of these "character references" the elusiveness, inconsistency and lack of specificity to his proposals and you have a complete cipher. Can anyone really say what this man will do if he gets in the WH? At best, he will be a rubber stamp for the socialist Pelosi and Reid Congress. At worst, he will abuse his power in the same manner he's abused our rights during this campaign (truth squads, etc) to a horrifying extent. Who knows how bad things will go for all of us?

Unless McCain can pull this election out, I see dark, dark days for the US.

My guess is we'll be looking at Jimmy Carter's second term, based on the One's frequently-expressed admiration for his policies.

At home, he'll raise taxes, lecture us for "not contributing enough" and "not trying hard enough", while wrapping himself in a mantle of pseudo-piety. (I never bought Carter's "Born-Again Christian" act, as I know actual evangelicals, and he doesn't fit the pattern anymore that the usual MSM caricature of them does.) He will also do his damndest to run roughshod over us on the Bill of Rights, just as Carter tried to do. (The President who told his AG, "People shouldn't be allowed to have guns. Figure out a way to take them away from them.") He will prevent any energy development, or even most R&D, to placate the neo-Luddite far left Romantics of his party, who want to destroy civilization so they can build Utopia on the ruins. (Look for rolling blackouts ala' CA under Grayout Davis, except all over the Lower 48.) And when exactly none of it works, and Utopia does not miraculously appear, he'll call it a "national malaise" and blame the rest of us- followed by unleashing his Sturmabteilung (excuse me, his "National Volunteer Korps Corps) to "raise our consciousness"- with a few boots to the head.

But even with all that here, overseas will be the real problem. He'll pursue exactly the same foreign policy as Carter's. He will desperately seek a foreign dictator to fall in love with, just as Carter did with Brezhnev and Saddam. (The "progressives" conveniently forget that it was Jimmy who began our unfortunate "love/hate" relationship with Saddam Hussein- the one George W. Bush ended decisively, and permanently, after over two decades of posturing by those very same "progressives"). He will gut our military, on the principle of Carter's "walk in the woods" with Brezhnev in Geneva. "I've disarmed us unilaterally- will you join us, or at least not hurt us?" Carter was shocked when Brezhnev told him "we are not philanthropists"- and invaded Afghanistan. That will look like a damp squib compared to the list of demands the One will receive from Ahmadinejad, Chavez, and (probably) Putin.

At which point I guarantee you he will fall back on Carter's other ploy. The one where he basically acts like a Russian boyar with a sleigh being chased by wolves in the winter. They carried peasants on the back, and when the pack got too close, they'd throw one off to be devoured, thus allowing the boyar to escape.

Like Carter, the One will throw our allies under the bus, just as he has his own up to now. Or rather, throw them to the wolves. In the "Hope" that the wolves will accept us as at least honorary members of their pack.

Or failing that, in the "Hope" that the wolves will at least not eat us until last.

What he'll do when he runs out of raw meat to feed them, I leave to your imagination. Like most egotists, he is at heart a weak, vain, vacuous individual, who cares nothing for anyone or anything other than himself. Everything he has done to date has been solely to bring him recognition, adulation, and power.

And assuming we survive the catastrophe that this idiot will cause, we'll spend the next forty years dealing with the mess he leaves behind.

Just like Carter.

cheers

eon

re: #148 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's NOT "state-run".

/not YET

It's close. It's a taste. Liberal fascism is on the rise.

re: #200 vagabond trader

You know, this is not the Democratic Party I once knew...(I'm throwing 'em under the bus)...

re: #179 Maui Girl

Then support the efforts of HumanEvents.com Help them get the word out about Obama because the MSM will not.

I do what I can - I'm just one person with a job and a life.

BTW - how's the weather there? Is Maui still experiencing a drought?

re: #207 eon

(The President who told his AG, "People shouldn't be allowed to have guns. Figure out a way to take them away from them.")

Heh

Not in my lifetime.

Heh

Huh? What? The senate is packing it up so that they can celebrate Rosh Hashanah?

re: #200 vagabond trader

Yes, his earlier claim to fame was covering for a boy toy who turned tricks out of Barney's townhouse.

and the dems were just fine w/ that criminal activity.

re: #208 FrogMarch

It's close. It's a taste. Liberal fascism is on the rise.

I'll agree there. What's being tried in Missouri is a harbinger.

More and more the GOP leaning, 527 PACs are going to have to get more active.

re: #213 nyc redneck

and the dems were just fine w/ that criminal activity.

no buts about it

Obama is scary

Is this the job of a news organization?

WBNS-10TV and Columbus Alive! are partnering to prepare central Ohio college students to get out and vote in this important election year...Talent from 10TV and representatives from Alive! will be on hand to distribute and collect registration forms. The drive will go to five central Ohio universities before Oct. 6, which is the state's registration deadline.

"It's almost as if there was a mass hypnosis session for journalists last year."

Maybe that's why Sen. McCain couldn't look at Barry during the debate. Those spiralling eyes which have so mesmerised the (half-a-country).

re: #212 SummerSong

Huh? What? The senate is packing it up so that they can celebrate Rosh Hashanah?

The Democrat controlled Congress, now for two years, who didn't need ONE Republican vote to get this sham bill passed, with a below 9% approval rating.

At least honest, hard working Americans have it figured out.

Below 9% approval rating for a Dem controlled Congress who didn't need even one Republican vote to get their beloved bill passed.

Oh, the irony.

Wow.

re: #212 SummerSong

Huh? What? The senate is packing it up so that they can celebrate Rosh Hashanah?

They keep telling us it's a crisis. If it's a crisis, why aren't they working on holidays? If tomorrow were Christmas, I'd want Congress meeting.

re: #183 Ojoe

Obama's face makes my hairs stand up

His words make my lunch come up.

re: #212 SummerSong

I knew there would be a way to blame da Jooooos for this mess.

re: #220 republic

That sounds just like what I'm yelling every time I see her face on the TV.

re: #216 pre-Boomer Marine brat

no buts about it

oh no, lol
you owe me a new key board, screen, the whole works.

re: #221 arethusa

They keep telling us it's a crisis. If it's a crisis, why aren't they working on holidays? If tomorrow were Christmas, I'd want Congress meeting.

Unbelievable isn't it?

re: #207 eon

I regret that I have but one upding to give for that comment.

re: #225 nyc redneck

oh no, lol
you owe me a new key board, screen, the whole works.

MOI?!

Whatever did I say?!

/visualize "Innocence Personified"

re: #216 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Butt, butt, but... It's all about the buts. Oh - and a wide stance.

ciaospirit (#218),

Is this the job of a news organization?

WBNS-10TV and Columbus Alive! are partnering to prepare central Ohio college students to get out and vote in this important election year...Talent from 10TV and representatives from Alive! will be on hand to distribute and collect registration forms. The drive will go to five central Ohio universities before Oct. 6, which is the state's registration deadline.

It is if your goal is to help Obama to win.

re: #219 Taqiyyotomist

"It's almost as if there was a mass hypnosis session for journalists last year."

Maybe that's why Sen. McCain couldn't look at Barry during the debate. Those spiralling eyes which have so mesmerised the (half-a-country).

Franz Mesmer was a quack also

BTW - I checked. The Misspelled ShortSword is still stuck on stupid.

re: #189 FloridaAnole

Do you recall the movie Stalag 17? The scene where one of the prisoners is reading a letter from home and muttering over and over, "I believe it. I believe it"? The letter was from his wife, and he reads it out loud:

"'Darling, you won't believe it, but I found the most adorable baby on our doorstep. And I've decided to keep it for our very own. You won't believe it, but it has exactly my eyes and nose.' Why does she keep saying I won't believe it? I believe it... I believe it."

The MSM moonbats have to believe that Barack Obama is the ideal Democratic candidate with tons of cross-over appeal... because admitting any doubt about that would mean admitting McCain might win, which is too horrible for them to contemplate.

re: #210 FrogMarch

We're always experiencing a drought..... We are surrounded by water, possess the West Maui Mountains aka the second wettest spot on earth and yet, we run dry. Salt water is great for killing weeds in the lawn but not so great for growing veggies!

re: #223 vagabond trader

I knew there would be a way to blame da Jooooos for this mess.

LOL!

re: #230 Geepers

ciaospirit (#218),

It is if your goal is to help Obama to win.

I know. That's why they are targeting universities. What about making it easy for other voting blocs that might need registered? I hate the MSM.

Tonight, party like it's 1929!

Has there ever been a more staggering, surreal and scary race to the White House?/blockquote>

No. Neither has their been such an accepting, apathetic electorate, which seems intent on socialism.

re: #225 nyc redneck

re: #229 Cap'n DOC

"Frankly", a homage to TheNoseOnYourFace

re: #237 arethusa

Tonight, party like it's 1929!

In light of the continued splendid financial news, I ate a 40¢ macaroni and cheese meal accompanied by hard liquor.

re: #240 David IV of Georgia

In light of the continued splendid financial news, I ate a 40¢ macaroni and cheese meal accompanied by hard liquor.

LOL!

/knowing exactly what you mean

re: #232 Cap'n DOC

BTW - I checked. The Misspelled ShortSword is still stuck on stupid.

Is Excalibur/ber still stumbling around over there on the other thread?

re: #202 Taqiyyotomist

I love the narrative. So calm and smooth. Very effective.

re: #239 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #229 Cap'n DOC

"Frankly", a homage to TheNoseOnYourFace

great read..thanks

re: #212 SummerSong

Huh? What? The senate is packing it up so that they can celebrate Rosh Hashanah?

I don't get it. I just don't. Irresponsibility, thy name is Congress.

re: #218 ciaospirit

Is this the job of a news organization?

Keep in mind that WBNS is a CBS affiliate. And of course, Columbus Alive! is a pseudo-civic organization run by Columbus' radical-leftist Democrat Mayor , Michael Coleman, with the board being run by Ohio's radical-leftist Lieutenant Governor, Lee " Gun Owners Taste Good With Fava Beans And A Nice Chianti" Fisher.

As H. Beam Piper might say, they are well-trained dogs who are just barking as their masters bid them.

cheers

eon

re: #228 pre-Boomer Marine brat

MOI?!

Whatever did I say?!

/visualize "Innocence Personified"

brat
;)

How far will the market fall while the senate enjoys the holiday?

re: #243 FloridaAnole

Yuppers...

re: #144 hooligan

I'm feeling kinda wild. Unleash the Barracuda. Just rip into it, Johnny Mac.
The Democrats are weak. Obama has a false sense of security. The economy is in the toilet for the rest of the quarter any way. We just may make history by saving the country from socialism, against all odds. It's nice for your side to win. This year it would be glorious, inspiring----because it isn't supposed to happen.

exactly, JMcC will be inside Barry's comfort zone and then .... splash one

re: #233 stuiec

You may have hit on the psychological mechanism, stuiec. All I know is it feels like I'm watching an endless episode of The Twilight Zone whenever I turn on my TV and click to the networks or CNN or MSDNC.

re: #250 Cap'n DOC

That one is definitely "Beaucoup Dien Cai Dau".

re: #38 Sharmuta

I'm convinced the Iraq Veterans for 0bama are a bunch of kids who signed up to get a free ride to college that are pissed they had to do actual military stuff.

There is a home in my neighborhood. Dad is a vet and son is currently serving overseas -Iraq or Afghanistan, I don't know, but certainly Marines - and they have and "Obama '08" placard in their window. *Sigh* It's unreal.

Aaah, geez: Obama looked for a rape victim to use against Sarah Palin in an ad.

I thought the lowest thing I'd heard was yesterday's bracelet news, but I think this is worse. And this is the candidate who's better for women?

re: #248 nyc redneck

brat
;)

Hey NYC..you said you wre out of town today..I hope it is upstate..
The coolest place i've been upstate was Lake George..What a beautiful and fun place to visit...We did some rock climbing and touring..
New York is a beautiful.awesome state.
/that took alot to say..but it's the truth

Let's see, The House of Reprehensibles, which is strongly Demonrat controlled, doesn't even need ONE Republican vote to get this fraud of a bill passed, and it gets shot down, and somehow, this is, "The Republicans fault", as Nancy Pelalegosi said, "Democrats have absolutely no responsibility in this financial crisis."?

The irony is really funny, and I am having a rather enjoyable laugh at it all.

Carry on.

They come back Thursday? Thursday?!

WTF

re: #246 Russkilitlover

I don't get it. I just don't. Irresponsibility, thy name is Congress.

They may never figure out why their approval rating is below 9%.

I just always ask myself;

"Self, if John McCain had associations with (including the recent past and currently) members of the Neo-Nazis, a few white supremacists, the Michigan militia types, and basically could be tied to any number of the trash of the right-wing, the wacky low-lifes that are thoroughly repudiated by the mainstream, and despised by a vast majority of America, would the MSM gloss this over? Would they allow McCain to say "Oh, I hardly know those guys, and I never listened to that racist pastor who's church I attended for 20 years anyway." and just ACCEPT it?"

The answer myself always gives me is: NO