5,951,217 comments. A couple more days like this and we'll be over the top! (A couple more days like this might cause us all to be bald from pulling out our hair, but it might be worth it!)

OT:

Guess what?

Just got a call from a potential new employer! Wish me luck!

Charles, does that increase your vulnerability to robots?

I'm confused. Are you saying that you have been blocking certain IP addresses which are may be connected to users who are real, valid humans wanting to browse or contribute to LGF?

re: #2 RememberSekhmet?

Break a leg!

I thought maybe you were loosing a few trolls and Mobys for target practice.

3 wood Also, how did the interview turn out?

Your little "experiment" has wreaked havoc with my enjoyment of LGF tonight. But, knowing that somewhere; Somebody is going to get "smacked around" by this, makes it worth it (to me.)

Chakras?

I suspect we’ve been artificially deflating our traffic numbers in comparison to other blogs.

And it didn't even take any Congressional action to solve this.

re: #2 RememberSekhmet?

Sending best thoughts your way!

Walter! How'd the show go?

Cattt has a great link.

The Dems are right to fear Karl Rove.

Night all - I am getting pretty darn close to turning into a pumpkin.

re: #4 Walter L. Newton

I'm confused. Are you saying that you have been blocking certain IP addresses which are may be connected to users who are real, valid humans wanting to browse or contribute to LGF?

No -- I'm saying that most web sites probably don't block these robots like we do, so their traffic numbers include a LOT of hits from bots and web crawlers.

Hopefully, all will be well in time for the fruitcup.

Hey Charles!

Have fun stormin' the castle!

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

re: #5 joncelli

LOL, it's an art school, how did you know? :D

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Good luck!

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Congratulations, and good luck.

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Walter! How'd the show go?

Ah, it's going fine. Attendence is a little down, at least out of the starting gate. Have no idea why. The smaller critics have already attended opening weekend, their review very positive. The Denver Post critic was there last night (Sunday), so we will see a review sometime this week.

And we had a special feature article come out in both the Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News about or male lead who is joing the army 3 days after the show closes. Interesting story since he is playing the lead in an anti-war play.

We have 4 more weeks to go on this show. Most of our shows run 6 weeks, Xmas show runs 7 weeks, early Nov. to right before Xmas.

[Link: www.minersalley.com...]

re: #2 RememberSekhmet?

OT:

Guess what?

Just got a call from a potential new employer! Wish me luck!

Wishing you luck ....and lots of it!

I've blocked most everything with IP addresses above 203.xxx... on my 'private' stuff.
I discovered those class C addresses come from 'unregistered' networks that seem to originate somewhere in Indonesia.
If it's the private 192.168.xxx.yyy it needs to be "my" xxx.

re: #15 Charles

No -- I'm saying that most web sites probably don't block these robots like we do, so their traffic numbers include a LOT of hits from bots and web crawlers.

Got it. I was a little confused. Thanks.

Oh.

And I don't like Pelosi.

As LGF has featured "The Falling Man" from 9-11 several times, here's a documentary on the story of "The Falling Man":

for you RememberSekhmet?

But if the site is now open to the robots and crawlers the hamsters will be eaten alive. Charles you are a monster. Besides, won't it crash the site?

re: #18 RememberSekhmet?

Heh, one of my sisters was a drama weirdo in high school, she urged us to say that rather than "good luck" so it just stuck in my head.

House members rejected bailout because voters back home hated it

So now it's our fault- hooray for the msm!

More on the suppression of speech in America and globally.
[Link: my.earthlink.net...]

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

Obviously you're not over 50?

re: #25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh.

And I don't like Pelosi.

I have a message for Nancy.

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

re: #29 joncelli

Heh, one of my sisters was a drama weirdo in high school, she urged us to say that rather than "good luck" so it just stuck in my head.

DRAMA WEIRDO? And what sex is that?

re: #29 joncelli

Heh, one of my sisters was a drama weirdo in high school, she urged us to say that rather than "good luck" so it just stuck in my head.

I was a drama weirdo in high school, we turn out OK, you know :D

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

Click on my avatar (which is really me), go to tmy website, all the info he needs is right there. Tell him I don't mind a free trip to MO.

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

Obviously you're not over 50?

It's impolite to ask a lady her age, you know, but I am not 50. ;)

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

The 0bama Truth Squad can reach me at sharmuta@biteme.com

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

re: #38 RememberSekhmet?

It's impolite to ask a lady her age, you know, but I am not 50. ;)

Do it's not. It keeps me out of trouble. LOL.

re: #40 joncelli

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

Gosh, get it right Bruce. It's DRAMA QUEEN, DRAMA QUEEN. Now, Mr. DeMille, I am ready for my close up!

re: #33 Noam Sayin'

I have a message for Nancy.

I prefer this one For you Nancy!

I see you standing there, you think you are so cool, why don't you just....

Well, you know

re: #40 joncelli

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

No, no, you have it all wrong. It's drama drunks, orch dorks, and band f*gs

Stinky Beaumont throws IP Blocking Rules under the bus !

re: #40 joncelli

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

It was "Drama Fags" at my school.

re: #46 Sharmuta

Yes, same here, and band geeks, along with the usual: jocks, geeks, heads, and normals. God but I hated high school.

Charles, in terms of ad revenue, might Stinky you be undervaluing yourself ?

Listening to the News Casters panic about the vote really pisses me off. Everyone I know thinks investment banks, derivatives, and hedges are leeches that deserve to die. BTW, the entire industry was set up by leftists.

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

That sounds like a toxic employer. I'm glad you didn't believe the BS.
Good luck to you!

re: #43 RememberSekhmet?

I prefer this one For you Nancy!

I see you standing there, you think you are so cool, why don't you just....

Well, you know

The "Nancy Pelosi" of the wild.

House members rejected bailout because voters back home hated it

Actually- to be fair- this isn't too bad of a piece:

The 228 votes against the plan included 95 Democrats and 133 Republicans, a mix of conservatives, liberals and members in tough re-election fights.

Conservatives saw too much government interference in free markets and too high a price tag; liberals thought it provided too much help for Wall Street and not enough for distressed homeowners.

"There's a real sense of frustration. People see their tax dollars spent bailing out financial institutions, and they themselves are not doing well," said Rep. Elijah Cummings , D- Md. , who represents a predominantly black Baltimore district. He voted no.

From the opposite end of the political spectrum came conservatives such as Rep. Jeb Hensarling , R- Texas .

"This Congress , in a rushed effort to provide stability to a troubled credit market, did not adequately discuss or investigate potential alternatives that would have constituted a workout and not a bailout," he said.

Hensarling, Cummings and lots of others had pleaded with their leaders to give them a bill they could explain easily back home. Constituents wanted Congress to act, they said, but were suspicious of what they might do.

Instead, many members found the compromise that emerged to be too complex, fueling constituents' qualms.

It's really disingenuous of pelosi and other's to paint this as the republican's fault. Nobody really liked this bill. But at least this article tried to bring some balance to the reporting.

Kerry is so fucking stupid. He is complaining about the Dems blocking REGULATION of predatory lending. That was the problem.

Kerry is a liar. An absolute liar.

So I could run my bot and give you a few thousand hits in a minute?

(Some websites are too annoying to navigate—just download the whole thing and then read what's important.)

I wouldn't do it to LGF and second my hard drive couldn't hold it.

I just heard Pelosi's post-defeat rant.

This is the most befuddling thing I have heard. She could have said that the people have spoken. She may have said that they needed to stay there despite the Jewish New Year (no offense meant) and find an acceptable solution. Instead she gives her party every reason NOT to vote for it -- after the vote happened.

Did I miss something or is the most inconsistent line of reasoning and strategy ever exhibited on the floor of Congress?

We have had Senators try and beat each other with canes (literally) and it probably made more sense than this.

Ya gotta be kidding me!

Aides to Mr. Obama said he had not directly reached out to try to sway any House Democrats who opposed the measure

He made NO CALLS to the Dems to persuade them to vote yes on this and yet he says it should be passed.

If robots get blocked, can they use Pepto Bismal to coat their parts?

A READER AT A MAJOR NEWSROOM EMAILS: "Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true. We have a team of 4 people going thru dumpsters in Alaska and 4 in arizona. Not a single one looking into Acorn, Ayers or Freddiemae. Editor refuses to publish anything that would jeopardize election for O, and betting you dollars to donuts same is true at NYT, others. People cheer when CNN or NBC run another Palin-mocking but raising any reasonable inquiry into obama is derided or flat out ignored. The fix is in, and its working." I asked permission to reprint without attribution and it was granted.

[Link: www.pajamasmedia.com...]

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Hilarious! The left hates the fat cats and wall street, but when they can use it to bludgeon republicans- well... they're all concerned!

12 of the no votes were from Barney Franks own committee members!

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Have to remember that; the Dems needed 218 for passage, they have 235 members.

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Ya gotta be kidding me!

Aides to Mr. Obama said he had not directly reached out to try to sway any House Democrats who opposed the measure

He made NO CALLS to the Dems to persuade them to vote yes on this and yet he says it should be passed.

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

Be sure to get paid in cash, whiskey, or ammo. None of this direct deposit crap. ;)

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ(10th)...since 1907.

re: #61 Typicalwhitey

12 of the no votes were from Barney Franks own committee members!

As Karl Rove pointed out- many "no" votes came from pelosi's friends and people who owed her a favor. This is pelosi's epic fail. They didn't need republicans other than as a scape goat. Pity she won't be held accountable by her voters.

re: #63 Syrah

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

He wanted no accountability.
Unlike McCain.

Obama makes me sick.

re: #63 Syrah

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

Just his way of voting PRESENT !

repost of Shameless Spin-off Plug. I think it's really important and timely information. Forgive if I seem to forward.

re: #53 pat

Kerry is so fucking stupid. He is complaining about the Dems blocking REGULATION of predatory lending. That was the problem.

He's not being stupid, he's just lying. He's told bigger lies then this. After slandering your country's armed forces repeatedly, lying about legislation isn't hard at all. JfnK at work.

re: #66 Sharmuta

As Karl Rove pointed out- many "no" votes came from pelosi's friends and people who owed her a favor. This is pelosi's epic fail. They didn't need republicans other than as a scape goat. Pity she won't be held accountable by her voters.

True.
They could pass the bill.
They don't want to do it with just dems because they don't want to get blamed in November.
COWARDS

re: #63 Syrah

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

He phoned it in before he didn't phone it in.

One of the very bad sections in the bailout bill was section 103, which allowed the Treasury Sec the power to not only buy mortgage related paper, but also bail out cities and counties whose budgets are a mess because of pension obligations, and also union or other pensions that may be in trouble. Talk about meddling in areas it should not be.

re: #66 Sharmuta

Barney Frank of all people should run and hide given how deep he is in creating this mess in the first place.

re: #72 Sharmuta

He phoned it in before he didn't phone it in.

Or was he waiting for someone to call him?

That is "hiding behind the couch" leadership if I have ever seen it.

re: #74 ZardozZ

Barney Frank of all people should run and hide given how deep he is in creating this mess in the first place.

Personally I think he should be in prison

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

Hey, congratulations. That's a great feeling.

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

The House Republicans are trying to get a bill that LOANS the money to the failing businesses and then they have to pay the money back in five years.

If pelosi thinks that she cannot get a bill passed in a bipartisan manner, she will ram through one with ACORN and all the trimmings.

Watch her.

I'm out for now.

re: #78 wishing

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

They thought they had the votes.
Then Pelosi made a rant of a partisan speech.
And another guy went on the radio saying how they were going to bash the Republicans on this in Nov.
Listen to Karl he explains it much better than I can

He also details WHO wouldn't vote for it.

re: #78 wishing

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

it was all a hand-wringing photo op? Gawd i hate em lol

re: #62 jaunte

Have to remember that; the Dems needed 218 for passage, they have 235 members.

Yes, but the Dems are playing pure politic here and this is all meant to make the Repubs look bad.

They craft a bill that even Nancy appears happy with.

Obama says he's for it.

The Dems made sure it was defeated, they had the numbers, some held back and voted no to help Repubs look bad.

Then last step, blame it all on the Repubs. Keep shouting we were for it, Obama was for it, 2/3 Repubs voted no.

re: #78 wishing

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

And yes, you're right.

re: #81 Typicalwhitey

They thought they had the votes.
Then Pelosi made a rant of a partisan speech.
And another guy went on the radio saying how they were going to bash the Republicans on this in Nov.
Listen to Karl he explains it much better than I can

TW...are u suggesting that a rant by Pelosi scared away NINETY FIVE dems? I can see the Reps bailing...but 95 Dems? Over a two minute speech? Sorry, that is just too much for me to believe.

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

Frak You. Sharmuta has a great idea. macker@biteme.com

/snicker

re: #36 RememberSekhmet?

I was a drama weirdo in high school, we turn out OK, you know :D

You "Emo's" were easy to spot in high school. Leather mini-skirts and black lipstick....not that I'm against that.

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

Here is a fix for the current credit crunch that doesn't cost anything.

Institutions are afraid of mortgage backed securities because no one knows what they are worth. Is it a 300k mortgage on a now 200k house? Or a 400k house? The unknown is the problem.

Why not grade mortgages on the credit score of the homeowners? A high credit score mortgage holder is likely to continue servicing their mortgage even if the value of their home has decreased. A low scoring homeowner is likely to default even if there is equity in the home.

Within a few weeks, a true value of the mortgages could be known. And that would make these securities more liquid.

Idea to Charles

A weekly post that have the question/comment/opinion of a user and Charles response. But only those he chose to respond to. Can't be too hard to put together. I think all of us miss Charles thoughts and this sites reasoning because we don't hear the argument behind it. Only the first opinion. I believe this would be a great addition.

re: #89 jaunte

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

See below for the reason he does not act:

re: #69 ggt

repost of Shameless Spin-off Plug. I think it's really important and timely information. Forgive if I seem to forward.

I simply could not believe Pelosi's gall today.

The President, Senator McCain, and the house and senate Republicans went out of their way not to point out that this crisis is essentially the dem's fault in the interests of getting a decent bill out.

Pelosi was on the point of having an agreement, and she says "Oh, by the way, voting for this agreement is a judgment on 8 years of failed Republican policies." She simply couldn't restrain her partisan rage.

McCain will not go hardcore on this. He's just too much into the Senate collegiality thing. Where are the 527s?

I've heard that Ole Miss has access to LGF blocked. Could it be the other way around? Did you have Ole Miss IP addresses blocked?

Great short read!

snip:

Pelosi screwed up royally. She is the Democratic Tom DeLay. Newt Gingrich was an ideologue, but Tom DeLay was simply a partisan, most keenly interested in maximizing his party's political power. Pelosi cut a deal in which, as far as I can tell, every single Republican in a safe seat had to vote yes so that the Democrats could maximize their no votes. Given that the Republican caucus is pretty much in open revolt, this was beyond moronic. She then spent a week openly and repeatedly blaming the Republicans and the Bush administration for the current crisis. The way she set things up, it was "Heads I win, tails you lose": vote for the deal and I'll paint you as heartless reactionaries bailing out your fat cat friends. If you're going to do that, you'd better make sure you have some goddamn margin for error in your own party. She didn't. Then she got up and delivered yet another speech blaming the Republicans for the bailout deal she was about to pass.

re: #89 jaunte

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

The least he could do is text us- or is that too close to phoning it in?

re: #90 Chip Designer

I would vote for that Chip, if we could rename it something like *term Life Policy* lol
so ok Whole lIfe then

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Yes, that's an intersting set o connections. I sent that article to several on my email list today after Mandy M posted it.

re: #93 Palandine

I simply could not believe Pelosi's gall today.

The President, Senator McCain, and the house and senate Republicans went out of their way not to point out that this crisis is essentially the dem's fault in the interests of getting a decent bill out.

Pelosi was on the point of having an agreement, and she says "Oh, by the way, voting for this agreement is a judgment on 8 years of failed Republican policies." She simply couldn't restrain her partisan rage.

McCain will not go hardcore on this. He's just too much into the Senate collegiality thing. Where are the 527s?

McCain has already conceded the election, why should he go hardcore?

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

Yes, my real name is Heywood. My last name is Jablome.

re: #89 jaunte

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

I agree. But it's all perception. The Dems are trying to make it look like Repubs are stalling this.

re: #86 wishing

TW...are u suggesting that a rant by Pelosi scared away NINETY FIVE dems? I can see the Reps bailing...but 95 Dems? Over a two minute speech? Sorry, that is just too much for me to believe.

See #95.
It wasn't one speech.

re: #101 Walter L. Newton

"Power before Country."

Hey all - I'm late to the game today. What's the consensus on the bailout, and on Nancy Pelosi?

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Ya gotta be kidding me!

Aides to Mr. Obama said he had not directly reached out to try to sway any House Democrats who opposed the measure

He made NO CALLS to the Dems to persuade them to vote yes on this and yet he says it should be passed.

Obama agreed to "common principles" with McCain, and expressed hope publicly that "a measure could be passed." But in no way, shape or fashion did he ever say he was for this bill. He knew it was going down already, it was a preordained circus fight. This was to ensure that he was not on the wrong side of the issue when the final tally came down.

The dems were going to sink this no matter what the GOP vote was. 21% of the entire membership of the House both voted against the measure, and just happened to be members of the majority party.

It's not hard to see the linkages and numbers, and crunch the math.

Thank Speaker Bela Lugosi for the charade partisan attack speech to announce the bill, which was designed to set up Barney Fife for the laugh-a-minute faux sarcasm about the GOP "failure" to muster the vote that "they said they would bring".

And I ate a dodo bird for breakfast today.

re: #103 jaunte

"Power before Country."

Of course, if anyone has been keeping up with my opinion on this, I give a big "well done" to the Repubs that voted NO, since I'm not for this myself.

Another exciting feature of the recently deceased plan (per Andrew McCarthy)
"The plan has no restrictions on buying up assets from foreign banks – banks who aren’t active lenders in U.S. markets directly and whose leverage is far greater (40x) than even American traditional investment banks (25x), whose leverage is greater than American commercial banks (10-15x).
Moreover, many of these foreign banks are currently being or are soon to be nationalized. Therefore, the US government would be buying toxic assets at above market prices to support foreign governments."
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

re: #101 Walter L. Newton

I agree. But it's all perception. The Dems are trying to make it look like Repubs are stalling this.

What you're suggesting would be Machiavellian to a mind-boggling degree. You could be right, though.

re: #104 cliffster

Every minute that confidence is not restored, we are losing 100's of thousands of dollars of capital --enough to pay for the bail-out over and over.

--chanelling 3-wood.

re: #104 cliffster

oh, and Pelosi is still incompetent.

re: #102 Typicalwhitey

Well according to the Reps it was one speech...the last one she delivered...whatshisname had a copy of it in his hand at the news conference (one page), held it up and said "THIS is why we dont have the votes to go forward with this bill."
That still doesnt explain 95 Dems voting NO

And where is Georgie Soros in all this?

Howdy lizzards,just set a B17 down from bombing German airfeilds in 1943 Europe.No offence ment to any modern day germans.

re: #109 ggt

re: #110 ggt

Looks like Lizards have it nailed.

re: #99 EIDE_Interface

McCain has already conceded the election, why should he go hardcore?

Where did you get this from?

re: #109 ggt

3 wood was just on the thread below this one. I'll see if he's still here.

re: #99 EIDE_Interface

McCain has already conceded the election, why should he go hardcore?

Have faith, sir. I succumbed to despair earlier today. Don't do the same. McCain has conceded nothing, believe that.

re: #66 Sharmuta

As Karl Rove pointed out- many "no" votes came from pelosi's friends and people who owed her a favor. This is pelosi's epic fail. They didn't need republicans other than as a scape goat. Pity she won't be held accountable by her voters.

They did her a favor, they voted no and allowed her a second wild assed rant against the GOP

re: #99 EIDE_Interface

McCain has already conceded the election, why should he go hardcore?

Could you just shut up, just shut the fuck up?
I am sick to fucking death of your negativity.
If you don't want to help stop Obama can you just stop trying to kill the rest of our enthusiasm?

I have spent the last two days trying to stop Obama's "goon squads" in Missouri and I am about at the end of my rope!
You have no idea what McCain is doing behind closed doors.
You have no idea what he is doing to shape a new bill or improve the old one.
You are calling someone I have met, someone who I look up to and consider a hero, someone who had tears in their eyes when I told him of my nephew, a fucking coward!
No more!

re: #111 wishing

Well according to the Reps it was one speech...the last one she delivered...whatshisname had a copy of it in his hand at the news conference (one page), held it up and said "THIS is why we dont have the votes to go forward with this bill."
That still doesnt explain 95 Dems voting NO

Wasnt enough ACORN,and they expected a mighty oak?

re: #119 Typicalwhitey

Couldn't care less. :-) McCain is trailing by 10 points in the polls. I've given up, and it's done wonders to my blood pressure...

re: #90 Chip Designer

That was already done in the "tranches" of the mortgage backed securities. Then the bottom tranch -- the sub-prime/sub-A mortgages -- were "rebranded" as CDOs (sorry forgot the exact name of that derivative -- I think it is Credit Derivative Options) AND regraded.

I read all of this and I will try to find the link. Basically this is a problem with transparency. No one really knows how to value these derivatives -- especially given that a large part of the CDOs are comprised of ARMs (adjustible rate mortgages).

I owe you links. Later.

re: #108 Moe Katz

What you're suggesting would be Machiavellian to a mind-boggling degree. You could be right, though.

Yea, I know. But it what doesn't make sense to me is why Nancy would get up this morning, pre-vote, and trash the Repubs like she did if she really wanted this bill passed?

Right at that point, she was setting something up. Usually speakers of the house do not bring something to vote unless they have a good idea if it's going to either pass or fail. And it's evident that the Dems were touting their horns that this was going to pass. And Obama chimed in too.

And then it goes down. Even though the Dems themself could have passed it lock, stock and barrell on their own.

Doesn't add up to me, especially starting the day with that really partisan speech. She was setting us up for something at that point.

re: #115 Maximu§

Where did you get this from?

He's been like this for weeks. He's bitterly clinging to his defeatism.

re: #120 Oldasdirt

may they receive a weeping willow
(no offence to willowone)

re: #121 EIDE_Interface

Then get the fuck out of here.

re: #104 cliffster

Hey all - I'm late to the game today. What's the consensus on the bailout, and on Nancy Pelosi?

/read the thread below, 3 wood is there

re: #121 EIDE_Interface

If Charles would give me a "block user" option, I could get rid of you and do wonders for mine!

re: #122 unclassifiable

Can they be valued as "write-off's". Lower the tax burden for the particular institution for one year --they could use the money the don't pay in taxes to fortifiy themselves?

Or is that too simple?

re: #124 Sharmuta

He's been like this for weeks. He's bitterly clinging to his defeatism.

I'm one of those bitter clingers....

re: #119 Typicalwhitey

Could you just shut up, just shut the fuck up?
I am sick to fucking death of your negativity.
If you don't want to help stop Obama can you just stop trying to kill the rest of our enthusiasm?

I have spent the last two days trying to stop Obama's "goon squads" in Missouri and I am about at the end of my rope!
You have no idea what McCain is doing behind closed doors.
You have no idea what he is doing to shape a new bill or improve the old one.
You are calling someone I have met, someone who I look up to and consider a hero, someone who had tears in their eyes when I told him of my nephew, a fucking coward!
No more!

Why should he stop trying to kill our enthusiasm? I believe that's been what's going on here for weeks and that's why I've been calling him a moby.

re: #121 EIDE_Interface

Couldn't care less. :-) McCain is trailing by 10 points in the polls. I've given up, and it's done wonders to my blood pressure...

Why do you have to spread your negativity to us?

My advice, forget about the election and listen to some good music.

re: #121 EIDE_Interface

You continue to demonstrate that you are a true POS.

re: #124 Sharmuta

He's been like this for weeks. He's bitterly clinging to his defeatism.

Listening to too much Michael Savage.

re: #129 ggt

You rang?

re: #104 cliffster

Hey all - I'm late to the game today. What's the consensus on the bailout, and on Nancy Pelosi?

Nancy P LOusy did a great deed today in harpooning the failout fiasco. Had she not taken drastic action this boondoggle might have passed and we would be screwed. For her courage and action, I am suspending my personal campaign to get momma moonbat elected to replace her for twenty four hours beginning at midnight 5 November 2008.

I'm still glad that the MOAB was defeated for now. Always nice to see Pelosi put in her place.

re: #133 EIDE_Interface

My advice, forget about the election and listen to some good music.

Fuck off

re: #121 EIDE_Interface

Couldn't care less. :-) McCain is trailing by 10 points in the polls. I've given up, and it's done wonders to my blood pressure...

You're living on borrowed time, pal. Doesn't matter what your blood pressure is.

How many times did they write Mac off, and a week or two later go "WHOA, I didn't see that coming!" eh? This is not the time for pessimism.

re: #138 EIDE_Interface

I'll be glad the day you STFU.

re: #120 Oldasdirt

Wasnt enough ACORN,and they expected a mighty oak?

I heard on the news tonight from a political anylist , that basically everyone in safe districts voted for it, and the un-safe districts voted against it because the people hate this idea, and were letting them know it.

re: #121 EIDE_Interface

Couldn't care less. :-) McCain is trailing by 10 points in the polls. I've given up, and it's done wonders to my blood pressure...

EIDE, I have until now given you the benefit of the doubt. That doubt, however has now run thin. Your comments seem troll-like to me. If you're just going to say we are all doomed, save it. I'm not willing to just give up like that. Even at my worst today, I was not prepared to wave the white flag like that.

Well, kind-of. I channelled up upthread when cliffster asked the Lizard consensus. I guess, I'd feel better if you verified my take on things. (#109)

re: #121 EIDE_Interface

Couldn't care less. :-) McCain is trailing by 10 points in the polls. I've given up, and it's done wonders to my blood pressure...

That says it right there. You couldn't care less how you are affecting people. And you think it's a joke. You must be a really popular guy.

re: #132 cliffster

Because it's a dick.

Eide- you can also reach me at sharmuta@biteme.com.

re: #133 EIDE_Interface

Well since LGF is pretty much election-focused, why dont u cruise off to some nice music url and while we cut our salt intake to lower our BPs, please?

...just went up 5 points lol

While the experiment is being worked out, here's a lizard jigsaw puzzle, with lizard-shaped pieces, for all my fellow lizards!

re: #132 cliffster

Why do you have to spread your negativity to us?

Because that's what his moby job IS.

re: #133 EIDE_Interface

My advice, forget about the election and listen to some good music.

Thanks for advice, Tokyo Rose.

The Wormtongue advances and recedes, like surf, lapping.

Again we find ourselves mired hip deep in another Eddy thread.

re: #150 gmsc

While the experiment is being worked out, here's a lizard jigsaw puzzle, with lizard-shaped pieces, for all my fellow lizards!

instant headache...thanks but no thanks....lol

re: #151 Sharmuta

Because that's what his moby job IS.

I think he's Edgar's ugly brother

So I should read over the Happy New Year thread for some good 3-wood smartness?

re: #150 gmsc

While the experiment is being worked out, here's a lizard jigsaw puzzle, with lizard-shaped pieces, for all my fellow lizards!

That's nasty, He's got his legs spread wide showing off his woo-woo!

re: #148 Sharmuta

Eide- you can also reach me at sharmuta@biteme.com.

haha, that's funny. Bite me!

re: #130 EIDE_Interface

I'm one of those bitter clingers....

C'mon folks, every circus needs a clown and we're overdue for a online meltdown.

re: #150 gmsc

OH, I have one like that. Only it's not a jigsaw it's an open piece puzzle. I got it at the teacher's store years ago for my kid. There are 4 or 5 different configured lizards that fit together all sorts of ways. I enjoyed it more than my kid.

I'm a kickass neocon!

No, Eide- you're not. You're a defeatist, and a quitter. You are quitting not on John McCain, but America, and for that- I have no respect for you.

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

Thanks for the advice, Tokyo Rose.

PIMF.

re: #153 jaunte

The Wormtongue advances and recedes, like surf, lapping.

What is wormtongue? Just curious, it's sounds kinda kewl and everything.

So Charles has relaxed the rules about marking his traffic to the market?

GAZE

re: #162 Sharmuta

No, Eide- you're not. You're a defeatist, and a quitter. You are quitting not on John McCain, but America, and for that- I have no respect for you.

I'm still punching the (R) on my absentee ballot if that's any consolation for you. I'm just not going to give any more money, or time to a lost cause.

re: #167 EIDE_Interface

Quitter.

The Republicans have to offer some straight talk. Here is a script proposal.

This financial panic was not largely caused by deregulation. A few good regulations, such as the "uptick rule" and other controls to prevent abusive short selling should be restored. This panic was caused by bad regulations, beginning with the Community Reinvestment Act that forced banks to offer loans to unqualified buyers and then sell those sub-prime loans to other institutions. Once the buyers of those homes began to default on their mortgages it created a cascade of bad debt that has swept through the entire system. Banks that did not participate in these risky practices were threatened by Congress members and the very agencies, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that had been created to keep the industry operating smoothly and safely. Senior officers of those agencies collected millions of dollars due to what may have been fraud while concealing the growing insolvency. Therefore any program to restore liquidity to the economy, which is essential so that businesses can hire and ship and qualified buyers can buy the homes that are now more reasonably priced, must include the repeal of those laws and regulations that created this disaster.

In addition no business or agency should be considered "To big to fail." That would open the public treasury to blackmail by every large and inefficient business competing against clever but smaller new firms. It would stifle the entrepreneurship that renews America. Any large firm facing such a crisis should have an opportunity under the bankruptcy laws to reorganize as smaller units with a better chance of surviving. If a firm is a threat to the overall safety of the nation due to its size and possible weakness then the government might need a procedure to order the firm divided, as we have done in other cases with Anti-trust law. As part of the recovery from this crisis we will propose that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac be divided into 12 smaller units. Each will be tied to operate within a Federal Reserve district and operate under the eye of the local Federal Reserve Bank to promote the health of the economy in its assigned region.

This is not a sign of a fundamental weakness in the American economy. We are facing a largely self inflicted wound caused by bad politics and greed. We can fix this and permit the American people to continue to create new industries and build new wealth. Other real concerns that can affect our future prosperity, such as dependence on foreign oil, will have to be dealt with. We will work on that. We will also lay out a policy to expand and restore the global reach and flexibility of our Armed Forces. That will include a significant expansion of industrial activity that will stimulate the economy. For now be assured that this crisis, while serious, can be surmounted.

re: #109 ggt

Every minute that confidence is not restored, we are losing 100's of thousands of dollars of capital --enough to pay for the bail-out over and over.

--chanelling 3-wood.

We lost a trillion dollars, give or take a billion, of capital in the market today. Multiply that by a factor of 10 to get the Multiplier Effect to the economy.

We will likely loose another trillion tommorow. The Nikkei is down over 500 right now overseas. I figure the Dow will drop 500 to 600 tomorrow.

To save 700 billion.

For those who wanted a melt down, enjoy the ride. You got it.

re: #167 EIDE_Interface

I'm still punching the (R) on my absentee ballot if that's any consolation for you. I'm just not going to give any more money, or time to a lost cause.

So go away and let everyone else carry on in peace.

re: #164 EIDE_Interface

What is wormtongue? Just curious, it's sounds kinda kewl and everything.

You would think that.

re: #128 SpartanWoman

If Charles would give me a "block user" option, I could get rid of you and do wonders for mine!

As well as mine and probably many more lizards , also.

re: #167 EIDE_Interface

I'm still punching the (R) on my absentee ballot if that's any consolation for you. I'm just not going to give any more money, or time to a lost cause.

On the shoulders of people like you, sat lice and fleas and other varmin, looking on while great men built this great country.

This is Grima Wormtongue.

re: #170 3 wood

We lost a trillion dollars, give or take a billion, of capital in the market today. Multiply that by a factor of 10 to get the Multiplier Effect to the economy.

We will likely loose another trillion tommorow. The Nikkei is down over 500 right now overseas. I figure the Dow will drop 500 to 600 tomorrow.

To save 700 billion.

For those who wanted a melt down, enjoy the ride. You got it.

Pelosi wants a meltdown. Plenty of high ranking DEMS voted "no". SHe wanted to hang the bailout around the GOP necks like one of Winnie Mandela' s "necklaces"!

I'm one who has always advocated for tolerance on this board and I've always eschewed witchhunts but EIDE has crossed the line IMHO.

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

This is Grima Wormtongue.

Kewl! That guy was in LOTR!

re: #156 SpartanWoman

I think he's Edgar's ugly brother

admit it..Edgar was funny as hell..He drops in..drops as many bombs as possible as fast as possible...
and then...when she gets blowback..she/he screams for the next 2 hours about how wronged they were...
Great stuff!
/Do you think LGF should do a realworld version on-line...

McCain seems to be in another world. He is still smiling while Obama is pissing on his shoe and shouting in his ear that the "Let's not talk bad about each other was Bullshit, you senile honky."

re: #119 Typicalwhitey

Could you just shut up, just shut the fuck up?
I am sick to fucking death of your negativity.
If you don't want to help stop Obama can you just stop trying to kill the rest of our enthusiasm?

I have spent the last two days trying to stop Obama's "goon squads" in Missouri and I am about at the end of my rope!
You have no idea what McCain is doing behind closed doors.
You have no idea what he is doing to shape a new bill or improve the old one.
You are calling someone I have met, someone who I look up to and consider a hero, someone who had tears in their eyes when I told him of my nephew, a fucking coward!
No more!

Hey, I do not know you but that was a very impassioned reply. We who are McCain/Palin supporters understand your passion and, well, I am with you. Remember, McCan has been counted out before. This is far, far from over. Palin is going to do very well Thursday and I believe the American People will ultimately see through the MSM charade.

Let not your heart be troubled, McCain will win and it you will be surprised how much support he has.

Please remember history, When Bush beat Kerry, the polls were moving for Kerry up until the election and even then, the MSM got it wrong in after voting interview talleys. The same will happen here. Most people will not admit that they support McCain because it is not appropriate to say that in many parts of the country, But - they do!

I feel the pain of theMSM's bias that we all experience. The Fix is in. But our secret weapon is the American People, which still support a candidate like Johnny Mac and not BHO. Try to have Faith.

re: #166 ggt

Also, I'm hearing estimates from reasonable people I know in the field that several hundred banks could fold.

Think of the cost of dealing with that.

But we saved 700 billion.

re: #174 cliffster

On the shoulders of people like you, sat lice and fleas and other varmin, looking on while great men built this great country.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

EIDE Obama is using the prosecutors and sheriff's in Missouri to stifle free speech.
The same freedom my nephew died protecting.

If you cannot stop being so doom and gloom, please refrain from posting.
If you cannot then I will stop.

The only GOPer to sound good and authoritative today was Karl Rove.

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

This is Grima Wormtongue.

Heard of a Drool Rockworm.is that close?

re: #172 Sharmuta

You would think that.

ROFL

For those of you that were unaware- youtube pulled the Burning Down the House video.

Burning Down the House V2 is up in it's place. For those of you that may have emailed this out, be sure your contacts have the latest URL.

re: #178 EIDE_Interface

Kewl! That guy was in LOTR!

That did it. I'm with ggt now, GAZE.

re: #170 3 wood

For those who wanted a melt down, enjoy the ride. You got it.

With all due respect, I don't think the vast majority of readers here wished for a meltdown, or anything resembling one.

re: #181 wright1

Thanks.
I apologize for the language, this is becoming very personal for me.

re: #184 SpartanWoman

Ditto. the only one who got what happened. I agree.

re: #170 3 wood

We lost a trillion dollars, give or take a billion, of capital in the market today. Multiply that by a factor of 10 to get the Multiplier Effect to the economy.

We will likely loose another trillion tommorow. The Nikkei is down over 500 right now overseas. I figure the Dow will drop 500 to 600 tomorrow.

To save 700 billion.

For those who wanted a melt down, enjoy the ride. You got it.

All Im doing now is turning inwards....focusing on family and work. Its a such a mess.

re: #188 Dark_Falcon

That did it. I'm with ggt now, GAZE.

He should be on GAZE- I think he just wants attention and negative attention will do.

re: #164 EIDE_Interface

What is wormtongue? Just curious, it's sounds kinda kewl and everything.

'"The wise speak only of what they know, Gríma son of Galmod. A witless worm have you become. Therefore be silent, and keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man till the lightning falls."
"See, Théoden, here is a snake! To slay it would be just. But it was not always as it now is. Once it was a man, and it did you service in its fashion."

--Gandalf

re: #119 Typicalwhitey

re: #132 cliffster

re: #142 Sharmuta

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

re: #146 Moe Katz

The only way the eIDeIOT is going to take its doom and gloom show on the road, is if people consistently ignore it. GAZE through it. Skip over it. Without the gratification it receives by pissing you good people off, it will get bored.

re: #183 Typicalwhitey

Do not quit what you do here and elsewhere because of one asshole. That's exactly what the desired outcome is. Don't give them the satisfaction!

re: #176 SpartanWoman

Pelosi wants a meltdown. Plenty of high ranking DEMS voted "no". SHe wanted to hang the bailout around the GOP necks like one of Winnie Mandela' s "necklaces"!

Who the fuck does Banrey Frank think he is? This guy is one of the biggest reasons why we are in this mess. And then he goes on t.v. and make jokes about Reps. and their hurt feelings.

/gay or not, I'd like to beat his ass.

re: #195 Opilio
I shall take your excellent advice!

5,000 online right now? Damn, I don't get 5,000 readers on my blog in a month.

I need a drink.

Some of you think that I'm "melting down". Nothing is closer to the truth... yesterday I had a meltdown. But today I'm feeling much better.

re: #191 pat

Ditto. the only one who got what happened. I agree.

If only McCain or Palin (or even Boehner) could sound like that, sigh

re: #182 3 wood

I get frustrated with the people who want a concrete cure for the problem, when much of the problem is "emotionally" driven. I don't have any answers, but at this point, something that even minorly restores confidence is needed.

re: #176 SpartanWoman

There's people on both sides of the aisle who are playing games. I've had it with all of them. Deal with this do it now.

We have lost roughly 30% off the S&P 500 so far this year. How many more trillions do we want to lose?

Nikkei is down 395 right now.

re: #190 Typicalwhitey

Noted.

There are many more of us than you may know. Pessimism is easy. Optimism requires true belief in the cause. This is a righteous cause. McCain will win in spite of the MSM.

Never being a McCain person to begin with, I do not give a shit about him. And Bush is a tool for Saudi Arabia and bankers. I do worry that Obama may destroy the nation quickly, while McCain will just having us to learn Spanish in order to get through a check out line or pay taxes to Mexico directly.

re: #196 Sharmuta

Do not quit what you do here and elsewhere because of one asshole. That's exactly what the desired outcome is. Don't give them the satisfaction!

I won't.
Sorry for posting that, I am just very upset right now.
It was childish and I won't do it again.
Thanks for your support Sharmuta.

re: #189 Cartman

With all due respect, I don't think the vast majority of readers here wished for a meltdown, or anything resembling one.

I never said a vast majority did.

But we got it now.

re: #202 ggt

I get frustrated with the people who want a concrete cure for the problem, when much of the problem is "emotionally" driven. I don't have any answers, but at this point, something that even minorly restores confidence is needed.

But Nancy Pelosi was such a meanie!

re: #178 EIDE_Interface

Kewl! That guy was in LOTR!

HiYa Interface..

re: #190 Typicalwhitey

Hang in there TW! Your work is as valuable as anyone's who has fought for our country.

re: #197 x-wing

Who the fuck does Banrey Frank think he is? This guy is one of the biggest reasons why we are in this mess. And then he goes on t.v. and make jokes about Reps. and their hurt feelings.

/gay or not, I'd like to beat his ass.

And the MSM will let him get away with it. The only way we can stop this is to post mercilessly on their sites and boycott their networks and sponsors

re: #199 Wyatt Earp

5,000 online right now? Damn, I don't get 5,000 readers on my blog in a month.

I need a drink.

Wyatt I need a hug.
Right now.

Some of the more compassionate Lizards have continued to try to lend the benefit of the doubt to EIDEjit. IMO, it's time to give up the ghost. I think we're all weary of these thread derailments. Enough is enough.

On September 15th, McCain said: "The fundamentals of our economy are strong."

The Democrats and the MSM (but I repeat myself) felt this to be so ridiculous that the Obama campaign rushed out an ad referencing this tatement, saying: "How can John McCain fix our economy if he doesn't understand it's broken?"

Today--the same day that we went through the biggest single day Dow Jones Industrial Avg. point drop ever--the Manchurian Community Organizer uttered the following:

"And then... after... this immediate...
problem... we've got the long-term
fundamentals that will really make
sure that this economy grows."

Aside from the fact that it sounded as though his teleprompter was having trouble buffering the Speech-O-Matic data stream from Astroturfer-in-Chief David Axelrod's secret underground lair.... HUH?

Is this yet another instance of "You're right, John" that we saw over & over again on Friday night?

re: #205 pat

Never being a McCain person to begin with, I do not give a shit about him. And Bush is a tool for Saudi Arabia and bankers. I do worry that Obama may destroy the nation quickly, while McCain will just having us to learn Spanish in order to get through a check out line or pay taxes to Mexico directly.

Thank you for your continued nothingness. It has been noted.

{Typicalwhitey}

re: #212 Typicalwhitey

Wyatt I need a hug.
Right now.

I have just been catching up. Hugs enroute!

Remember, GDP is up 2 quarters in a row.

re: #182 3 wood

But we saved 700 billion.

And we would have got most of it back.

/could have even made a profit

re: #170 3 wood

We lost a trillion dollars, give or take a billion, of capital in the market today. Multiply that by a factor of 10 to get the Multiplier Effect to the economy.

We will likely loose another trillion tommorow. The Nikkei is down over 500 right now overseas. I figure the Dow will drop 500 to 600 tomorrow.

To save 700 billion.

For those who wanted a melt down, enjoy the ride. You got it.

I posted a spinoff link about this earlier today:

re: #182 3 wood

Also, I'm hearing estimates from reasonable people I know in the field that several hundred banks could fold.

Think of the cost of dealing with that.

But we saved 700 billion.

If I read you correctly we are truly headed for the crapper. Even gold has got to be a bubble at this point, I know I am not willing to risk it at this late date. Maybe I will invest in rare coins or some such odd alternative?

re: #220 2SoonOld2LateSmart

I've been cutting my own hair (it's long so it's easy). Am I having financial troubles? NO, I wanted my kid to go to private school and somethings had to give.

re: #192 Maximu§

All Im doing now is turning inwards....focusing on family and work. Its a such a mess.

Nothing else you can do. It's been like watching a drunk get behind the wheel and there's nothing you can do to stop them.

This was so avoidable. It makes me want to scream.

It is a bad day when Huckabee sounds better than McCain. That day is today.

re: #219 Killian Bundy

And we would have got most of it back.

/could have even made a profit

Well, to be fair, it's the principal of the matter. Federal government buying real estate and making money and all - bad mojo. This is not a statement saying that the decisions were good one way or another, but it's not fair to say that it was done just "to save $700 billion"

re: #212 Typicalwhitey

Wyatt I need a hug.
Right now.

[hug] Keep up the fight, TW. We can't let the Dems steal Missouri, and you are fixing to play a role in stopping their attempt to do so.

OK,,im screwed.Got to thinking bout "Drool Rockworm".It was a demon in a book i read about 20 years ago,,and now im stumped,trying to remember the name of the book.Anyone got any clues?Dang it,,makeing my head hurt....HELP!

re: #205 pat

Never being a McCain person to begin with, I do not give a shit about him. And Bush is a tool for Saudi Arabia and bankers. I do worry that Obama may destroy the nation quickly, while McCain will just having us to learn Spanish in order to get through a check out line or pay taxes to Mexico directly.

Pat, that is just goofy.

re: #197 x-wing

Who the fuck does Banrey Frank think he is? This guy is one of the biggest reasons why we are in this mess. And then he goes on t.v. and make jokes about Reps. and their hurt feelings.

Which is a good reason why we are in this mess. People on both sides more interested in scoring political points than actually dealing with this.

re: #227 Oldasdirt

Lord Foul's Bane

re: #224 pat

It is a bad day when Huckabee sounds better than McCain. That day is today.

But, he did a good job tonight. Folksy, but dead on.

[Link: www.passionbreedsfollowers.com...]

This link was on WND - Scott Stapp did a concert for the troops. His former band CREED did some good work. He got knocked off the horse losing his way but appears to be getting back on of late so good for him - this is a nice gesture. The link may not get you to the story so check out the post at WND. Oh, and God bless our troops!

re: #200 EIDE_Interface

Some of you think that I'm "melting down". Nothing is closer to the truth... yesterday I had a meltdown. But today I'm feeling much better.

Please, we need a good meltdown to live'n things up in here.

re: #206 Typicalwhitey

I won't.
Sorry for posting that, I am just very upset right now.
It was childish and I won't do it again.
Thanks for your support Sharmuta.

Hey- I've been there. I've been down and felt like giving up on something I believed in because it was hard to keep going. But I looked to my inspiration, I looked at what it was it meant to me. America is too important to give up on. The bastards want to keep us down, they want us to feel defeated. I'm not going to give them that satisfaction. In fact- it makes my blood boil that they think their lies and negativity will make me give up on America. To that I say, "Fuck you!"

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

[hug] Keep up the fight, TW. We can't let the Dems steal Missouri, and you are fixing to play a role in stopping their attempt to do so.

Thanks.
I got a reply from the KC Star today, did I tell you?

re: #133 Eeyore_Interface

I hate to admit it, but I kinda like your music. Your politics are shit but you make some catchy music I can space out to.

re: #223 3 wood

Nothing else you can do. It's been like watching a drunk get behind the wheel and there's nothing you can do to stop them.

This was so avoidable. It makes me want to scream.

I don't see the problem 3 wood.. I bought WAMU today with my WAMU credit card..no interest..I'm thinking of leveraging WAMU in the morning.
what do you think?
/

Interesting article...

"Banking crash hits Europe as ECB loses traction"

Here is the interesting part:

Data from the IMF shows that European banks hold 75pc as much exposure to toxic US housing debt as US banks themselves. Moreover they have mounting bad debts from the British, Spanish, French, Dutch, Scandinavian, and East European housing markets, where property bubbles reached even more extreme levels that in the US.

So, not only are the European banks in trouble because of the US housing bubble... Europe had a big bubble of their own! Bigger than ours!

So, if the answer to our problems are more government regulation, as per the Dems, why didn't more regulation save Europe from a housing bubble? We are constantly told our economy is "too uncontrolled", we need to "rein it in" like the Europeans.

How is it that their problem is bigger than ours? Why did they allow the "self verified" loans to run out of control in their socialist paradise?

Could it be that politicians saw the spread of home ownership down the economic scale as an irresistible goody to give to the people... one they could "give us" without increasing taxes?

It was a no-cost-to-government social welfare program... one adopted around the globe by pandering politicians. I guess Wall Street wasn't the only ones consumed by shortsighted greed.

re: #203 3 wood
Hey my friend - please check your e-mail!

re: #236 Racer X

I hate to admit it, but I kinda like your music. Your politics are shit but you make some catchy music I can space out to.

Actually Muse is my favorite band.

re: #237 HoosierHoops

I don't see the problem 3 wood.. I bought WAMU today with my WAMU credit card..no interest..I'm thinking of leveraging WAMU in the morning.
what do you think?
/

Whoa, didn't that make the universe implode on itself, or something?

re: #230 jaunte

I loved that series - didn't know anyone else read it! Thomas Covenant - white gold-wielder!

re: #230 jaunte

Lord Foul's Bane

Thank you so much.Gettin old sucks.
Do you know where i left my car keys?

re: #192 Maximu§

All Im doing now is turning inwards....focusing on family and work. Its a such a mess.

I've been talking about that for two years now. I call it "bringing it back to the homestead." Shoring up the finances the best I could, paying off as much as I could, considering good friends versus people who call themselves friends but really do me no good.

Sort of a little house on the prairie mentality. Keep it close to the home, for the home, and the people and friends you trust in your home.

My best friend just sent me this:

RETIREMENT PLAN INVESTMENT TIP. . .

If you had purchased $1000.00 of Nortel stock one year ago,
it would now be worth $49.00.
With Enron, you would have $16.50 left of the original $1000.
With WorldCom, you would have less than $5.00 left.
If you had purchased $1,000.00 of Delta Air Lines stock you
would have $49.00 left.
If you had purchased United Airlines, you would have nothing left.

But, if you had purchased $1,000.00 worth of beer one year
ago, drank all the beer, then turned in the cans for the
aluminum recycling refund you would have $214.00.

Based on the above, the best current investment advice is
to drink heavily and recycle.

This is called the 401-Keg Plan!

re: #243 Oldasdirt

Kitchen counter, under the grocery bags...

re: #235 Typicalwhitey

Thanks.
I got a reply from the KC Star today, did I tell you?

No, I had not heard. What did they say?

re: #202 ggt

I get frustrated with the people who want a concrete cure for the problem, when much of the problem is "emotionally" driven. I don't have any answers, but at this point, something that even minorly restores confidence is needed.

I put up a list on the tread below of things that we can still do to soften the train wreck without Congress. To repeat:

1. Tomorrow morning SEC head Cox needs to waive the mark to market rule before the market opens. That would free up hundreds of billions in capital.

2. The SEC needs to reinstate the "uptick" rule for short sales.

3. The FDIC needs to raise the insurance to $1 million or $2 million on deposits. This would stop the run on the banks.

4. Paulson needs to start drafting an insurance plan (which won't work well but will get passed) and drop the buy-out plan (which would have worked pretty well but will never get passed). The world needs to see Congress actually do something on this but point fingers and blame each other.

re: #212 Typicalwhitey

Wyatt I need a hug.
Right now.

Check your e-mail!

re: #242 wright1

It's on my vast list of stuff to read later...

re: #235 Typicalwhitey
Hey, when YOU get a chance, please check your e-mail,too!

re: #240 Eeyore_Interface

Actually Muse is my favorite band.

Your latest album is just OK. I prefer this one from your older stuff.

re: #237 HoosierHoops

I don't see the problem 3 wood.. I bought WAMU today with my WAMU credit card..no interest..I'm thinking of leveraging WAMU in the morning.
what do you think?

Yeah, buy some Lehaman, some AIG and some Wachovia with it too.

re: #222 ggt

stated earlier:
Totally agree: when a young adult goes out to make his way in the world, and makes serious errors in judgment, and bad decisions, he is young and able to learn and regroup.
Many of us dont have the luxury of youth: we have already learned these lessons, but the politicos, can i call them *nouveau riche*?, who have gorged on the funds made available by public trust in them as legislators (among others), are discovering that we, the adults here, know that the only cure for errors in judgment is CONSEQUENCE.
Time to bite the bullet...

re: #252 Racer X

Your latest album is just OK. I prefer this one from your older stuff.

I actually like that song by Moby! The only one...

re: #246 jaunte

Kitchen counter, under the grocery bags...

Frigin amazing.

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

No, I had not heard. What did they say?

Thanks for writing. It's up on the Prime Buzz blog now, and I'll underline your concern with the editors.
http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/14686...

I agree it's an interesting story that needs to be followed.

Best wishes,
Derek Donovan
Readers' representative
The Kansas City Star

re: #238 stevieray

So, not only are the European banks in trouble because of the US housing bubble... Europe had a big bubble of their own! Bigger than ours!

So, if the answer to our problems are more government regulation, as per the Dems, why didn't more regulation save Europe from a housing bubble? We are constantly told our economy is "too uncontrolled", we need to "rein it in" like the Europeans.

How is it that their problem is bigger than ours? Why did they allow the "self verified" loans to run out of control in their socialist paradise?

We are actually way ahead of the curve in recognizing the problem and trying to do something.

We will come out of this, once we stop screwing around, much faster than Europe will.

re: #248 3 wood

3. The FDIC needs to raise the insurance to $1 million or $2 million on deposits. This would stop the run on the banks.

That is an important, but overlooked point. As banks merge, some people with large amounts of savings find themselves "merged" out of full coverage.