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Tech Note: An Unblocking Experiment

Sci/Tech | Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:56:21 pm PDT

Just to see what happens, we’ve deleted a bunch of the IP blocking rules from our .htaccess file tonight. Since most bloggers don’t watch for (and block) robots and spammers as diligently as Stinky Beaumont does, I suspect we’ve been artificially deflating our traffic numbers in comparison to other blogs. And sure enough, we’re showing nearly 5,000 visitors online right now—much higher than normal for this time.

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1 joncelli  9/29/08 7:59:06 pm reply quote

5,951,217 comments. A couple more days like this and we'll be over the top! (A couple more days like this might cause us all to be bald from pulling out our hair, but it might be worth it!)

2 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 7:59:28 pm reply quote

OT:

Guess what?

Just got a call from a potential new employer! Wish me luck!

3 joncelli  9/29/08 7:59:54 pm reply quote

Charles, does that increase your vulnerability to robots?

4 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:00:04 pm reply quote

I'm confused. Are you saying that you have been blocking certain IP addresses which are may be connected to users who are real, valid humans wanting to browse or contribute to LGF?

5 joncelli  9/29/08 8:00:14 pm reply quote

re: #2 RememberSekhmet?

Break a leg!

6 JeremyR  9/29/08 8:00:16 pm reply quote

I thought maybe you were loosing a few trolls and Mobys for target practice.

7 Wishing  9/29/08 8:00:31 pm reply quote

3 wood Also, how did the interview turn out?

8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  9/29/08 8:01:03 pm reply quote

Your little "experiment" has wreaked havoc with my enjoyment of LGF tonight. But, knowing that somewhere; Somebody is going to get "smacked around" by this, makes it worth it (to me.)

9 stevieray  9/29/08 8:01:05 pm reply quote

Chakras?

10 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:01:10 pm reply quote
I suspect we’ve been artificially deflating our traffic numbers in comparison to other blogs.

And it didn't even take any Congressional action to solve this.

11 Wishing  9/29/08 8:01:31 pm reply quote

re: #2 RememberSekhmet?

Sending best thoughts your way!

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  9/29/08 8:02:21 pm reply quote

Walter! How'd the show go?

13 Syrah  9/29/08 8:02:41 pm reply quote

Cattt has a great link.

The Dems are right to fear Karl Rove.

14 ArmyWife  9/29/08 8:03:02 pm reply quote

Night all - I am getting pretty darn close to turning into a pumpkin.

15 Charles  9/29/08 8:04:11 pm reply quote

re: #4 Walter L. Newton

I'm confused. Are you saying that you have been blocking certain IP addresses which are may be connected to users who are real, valid humans wanting to browse or contribute to LGF?

No -- I'm saying that most web sites probably don't block these robots like we do, so their traffic numbers include a LOT of hits from bots and web crawlers.

16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  9/29/08 8:05:18 pm reply quote

Hopefully, all will be well in time for the fruitcup.

Hey Charles!

Have fun stormin' the castle!

17 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 8:05:36 pm reply quote

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

18 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 8:06:19 pm reply quote

re: #5 joncelli

LOL, it's an art school, how did you know? :D

19 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:06:27 pm reply quote

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Good luck!

20 jaunte  9/29/08 8:07:00 pm reply quote

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Congratulations, and good luck.

21 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:07:25 pm reply quote

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Walter! How'd the show go?

Ah, it's going fine. Attendence is a little down, at least out of the starting gate. Have no idea why. The smaller critics have already attended opening weekend, their review very positive. The Denver Post critic was there last night (Sunday), so we will see a review sometime this week.

And we had a special feature article come out in both the Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News about or male lead who is joing the army 3 days after the show closes. Interesting story since he is playing the lead in an anti-war play.

We have 4 more weeks to go on this show. Most of our shows run 6 weeks, Xmas show runs 7 weeks, early Nov. to right before Xmas.

[Link: www.minersalley.com...]

22 Inquisitive  9/29/08 8:07:54 pm reply quote

re: #2 RememberSekhmet?

OT:

Guess what?

Just got a call from a potential new employer! Wish me luck!


Wishing you luck ....and lots of it!

23 jwb7605  9/29/08 8:07:56 pm reply quote

I've blocked most everything with IP addresses above 203.xxx... on my 'private' stuff.
I discovered those class C addresses come from 'unregistered' networks that seem to originate somewhere in Indonesia.
If it's the private 192.168.xxx.yyy it needs to be "my" xxx.

24 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:08:23 pm reply quote

re: #15 Charles

No -- I'm saying that most web sites probably don't block these robots like we do, so their traffic numbers include a LOT of hits from bots and web crawlers.

Got it. I was a little confused. Thanks.

25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  9/29/08 8:08:25 pm reply quote

Oh.

And I don't like Pelosi.

26 William  9/29/08 8:10:06 pm reply quote

As LGF has featured "The Falling Man" from 9-11 several times, here's a documentary on the story of "The Falling Man":

27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  9/29/08 8:10:17 pm reply quote

for you RememberSekhmet?

28 lifeofthemind  9/29/08 8:10:55 pm reply quote

But if the site is now open to the robots and crawlers the hamsters will be eaten alive. Charles you are a monster. Besides, won't it crash the site?

29 joncelli  9/29/08 8:11:01 pm reply quote

re: #18 RememberSekhmet?

Heh, one of my sisters was a drama weirdo in high school, she urged us to say that rather than "good luck" so it just stuck in my head.

30 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:11:46 pm reply quote

House members rejected bailout because voters back home hated it

So now it's our fault- hooray for the msm!

31 lifeofthemind  9/29/08 8:11:55 pm reply quote

More on the suppression of speech in America and globally.
[Link: my.earthlink.net...]

32 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:11:55 pm reply quote

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

Obviously you're not over 50?

33 Noam Sayin'  9/29/08 8:12:07 pm reply quote

re: #25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh.

And I don't like Pelosi.

I have a message for Nancy.

34 pat  9/29/08 8:12:24 pm reply quote

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

35 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:13:23 pm reply quote

re: #29 joncelli

Heh, one of my sisters was a drama weirdo in high school, she urged us to say that rather than "good luck" so it just stuck in my head.

DRAMA WEIRDO? And what sex is that?

36 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 8:13:54 pm reply quote

re: #29 joncelli

Heh, one of my sisters was a drama weirdo in high school, she urged us to say that rather than "good luck" so it just stuck in my head.

I was a drama weirdo in high school, we turn out OK, you know :D

37 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:14:30 pm reply quote

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

Click on my avatar (which is really me), go to tmy website, all the info he needs is right there. Tell him I don't mind a free trip to MO.

38 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 8:14:55 pm reply quote

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

Obviously you're not over 50?

It's impolite to ask a lady her age, you know, but I am not 50. ;)

39 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:14:56 pm reply quote

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

The 0bama Truth Squad can reach me at sharmuta@biteme.com

40 joncelli  9/29/08 8:15:13 pm reply quote

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

41 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:15:37 pm reply quote

re: #38 RememberSekhmet?

It's impolite to ask a lady her age, you know, but I am not 50. ;)

Do it's not. It keeps me out of trouble. LOL.

42 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:16:46 pm reply quote

re: #40 joncelli

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

Gosh, get it right Bruce. It's DRAMA QUEEN, DRAMA QUEEN. Now, Mr. DeMille, I am ready for my close up!

43 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 8:16:54 pm reply quote

re: #33 Noam Sayin'

I have a message for Nancy.

I prefer this one For you Nancy!

I see you standing there, you think you are so cool, why don't you just....

Well, you know

44 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 8:18:28 pm reply quote

re: #40 joncelli

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

No, no, you have it all wrong. It's drama drunks, orch dorks, and band f*gs

45 ted  9/29/08 8:18:50 pm reply quote

Stinky Beaumont throws IP Blocking Rules under the bus !

46 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:19:25 pm reply quote

re: #40 joncelli

Gah! No offense! I thought it was better than drama fag! (Not sure about the sex. Hermaphroditic? [ducks and runs].)

It was "Drama Fags" at my school.

47 joncelli  9/29/08 8:21:01 pm reply quote

re: #46 Sharmuta

Yes, same here, and band geeks, along with the usual: jocks, geeks, heads, and normals. God but I hated high school.

48 ted  9/29/08 8:22:11 pm reply quote

Charles, in terms of ad revenue, might Stinky you be undervaluing yourself ?

49 pat  9/29/08 8:22:32 pm reply quote

Listening to the News Casters panic about the vote really pisses me off. Everyone I know thinks investment banks, derivatives, and hedges are leeches that deserve to die. BTW, the entire industry was set up by leftists.

50 SummerSong  9/29/08 8:22:36 pm reply quote

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

That sounds like a toxic employer. I'm glad you didn't believe the BS.
Good luck to you!

51 CapeCoddah  9/29/08 8:23:31 pm reply quote

re: #43 RememberSekhmet?

I prefer this one For you Nancy!

I see you standing there, you think you are so cool, why don't you just....

Well, you know

The "Nancy Pelosi" of the wild.

52 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:23:53 pm reply quote

House members rejected bailout because voters back home hated it

Actually- to be fair- this isn't too bad of a piece:

The 228 votes against the plan included 95 Democrats and 133 Republicans, a mix of conservatives, liberals and members in tough re-election fights.

Conservatives saw too much government interference in free markets and too high a price tag; liberals thought it provided too much help for Wall Street and not enough for distressed homeowners.

"There's a real sense of frustration. People see their tax dollars spent bailing out financial institutions, and they themselves are not doing well," said Rep. Elijah Cummings , D- Md. , who represents a predominantly black Baltimore district. He voted no.

From the opposite end of the political spectrum came conservatives such as Rep. Jeb Hensarling , R- Texas .

"This Congress , in a rushed effort to provide stability to a troubled credit market, did not adequately discuss or investigate potential alternatives that would have constituted a workout and not a bailout," he said.

Hensarling, Cummings and lots of others had pleaded with their leaders to give them a bill they could explain easily back home. Constituents wanted Congress to act, they said, but were suspicious of what they might do.

Instead, many members found the compromise that emerged to be too complex, fueling constituents' qualms.

It's really disingenuous of pelosi and other's to paint this as the republican's fault. Nobody really liked this bill. But at least this article tried to bring some balance to the reporting.

53 pat  9/29/08 8:24:18 pm reply quote

Kerry is so fucking stupid. He is complaining about the Dems blocking REGULATION of predatory lending. That was the problem.

54 pat  9/29/08 8:25:15 pm reply quote

Kerry is a liar. An absolute liar.

55 David IV of Georgia  9/29/08 8:25:37 pm reply quote

So I could run my bot and give you a few thousand hits in a minute?

(Some websites are too annoying to navigate—just download the whole thing and then read what's important.)

I wouldn't do it to LGF and second my hard drive couldn't hold it.

56 unclassifiable  9/29/08 8:26:18 pm reply quote

I just heard Pelosi's post-defeat rant.

This is the most befuddling thing I have heard. She could have said that the people have spoken. She may have said that they needed to stay there despite the Jewish New Year (no offense meant) and find an acceptable solution. Instead she gives her party every reason NOT to vote for it -- after the vote happened.

Did I miss something or is the most inconsistent line of reasoning and strategy ever exhibited on the floor of Congress?

We have had Senators try and beat each other with canes (literally) and it probably made more sense than this.

57 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:26:34 pm reply quote

Ya gotta be kidding me!

Aides to Mr. Obama said he had not directly reached out to try to sway any House Democrats who opposed the measure

He made NO CALLS to the Dems to persuade them to vote yes on this and yet he says it should be passed.

58 ggt  9/29/08 8:26:55 pm reply quote

If robots get blocked, can they use Pepto Bismal to coat their parts?

59 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:27:37 pm reply quote
A READER AT A MAJOR NEWSROOM EMAILS: "Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true. We have a team of 4 people going thru dumpsters in Alaska and 4 in arizona. Not a single one looking into Acorn, Ayers or Freddiemae. Editor refuses to publish anything that would jeopardize election for O, and betting you dollars to donuts same is true at NYT, others. People cheer when CNN or NBC run another Palin-mocking but raising any reasonable inquiry into obama is derided or flat out ignored. The fix is in, and its working." I asked permission to reprint without attribution and it was granted.


[Link: www.pajamasmedia.com...]

60 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:28:21 pm reply quote

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Hilarious! The left hates the fat cats and wall street, but when they can use it to bludgeon republicans- well... they're all concerned!

61 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:28:25 pm reply quote

12 of the no votes were from Barney Franks own committee members!

62 jaunte  9/29/08 8:28:45 pm reply quote

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Have to remember that; the Dems needed 218 for passage, they have 235 members.

63 Syrah  9/29/08 8:29:36 pm reply quote

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Ya gotta be kidding me!

Aides to Mr. Obama said he had not directly reached out to try to sway any House Democrats who opposed the measure

He made NO CALLS to the Dems to persuade them to vote yes on this and yet he says it should be passed.

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

64 Palandine  9/29/08 8:33:14 pm reply quote

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

Be sure to get paid in cash, whiskey, or ammo. None of this direct deposit crap. ;)

65 Globular Cluster  9/29/08 8:33:15 pm reply quote
What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?


Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ(10th)...since 1907.

66 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:33:20 pm reply quote

re: #61 Typicalwhitey

12 of the no votes were from Barney Franks own committee members!

As Karl Rove pointed out- many "no" votes came from pelosi's friends and people who owed her a favor. This is pelosi's epic fail. They didn't need republicans other than as a scape goat. Pity she won't be held accountable by her voters.

67 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:33:36 pm reply quote

re: #63 Syrah

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

He wanted no accountability.
Unlike McCain.

Obama makes me sick.

68 ZardozZ  9/29/08 8:33:51 pm reply quote

re: #63 Syrah

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

Just his way of voting PRESENT !

69 ggt  9/29/08 8:33:59 pm reply quote

repost of Shameless Spin-off Plug. I think it's really important and timely information. Forgive if I seem to forward.

70 Dark_Falcon  9/29/08 8:34:00 pm reply quote

re: #53 pat

Kerry is so fucking stupid. He is complaining about the Dems blocking REGULATION of predatory lending. That was the problem.

He's not being stupid, he's just lying. He's told bigger lies then this. After slandering your country's armed forces repeatedly, lying about legislation isn't hard at all. JfnK at work.

71 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:34:47 pm reply quote

re: #66 Sharmuta

As Karl Rove pointed out- many "no" votes came from pelosi's friends and people who owed her a favor. This is pelosi's epic fail. They didn't need republicans other than as a scape goat. Pity she won't be held accountable by her voters.

True.
They could pass the bill.
They don't want to do it with just dems because they don't want to get blamed in November.
COWARDS

72 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:34:52 pm reply quote

re: #63 Syrah

The Mighty 0 wanted plausible deniability.

He phoned it in before he didn't phone it in.

73 Dasher  9/29/08 8:35:56 pm reply quote

One of the very bad sections in the bailout bill was section 103, which allowed the Treasury Sec the power to not only buy mortgage related paper, but also bail out cities and counties whose budgets are a mess because of pension obligations, and also union or other pensions that may be in trouble. Talk about meddling in areas it should not be.

74 ZardozZ  9/29/08 8:36:27 pm reply quote

re: #66 Sharmuta

Barney Frank of all people should run and hide given how deep he is in creating this mess in the first place.

75 Syrah  9/29/08 8:37:05 pm reply quote

re: #72 Sharmuta

He phoned it in before he didn't phone it in.

Or was he waiting for someone to call him?

That is "hiding behind the couch" leadership if I have ever seen it.

76 Dasher  9/29/08 8:37:11 pm reply quote

re: #74 ZardozZ

Barney Frank of all people should run and hide given how deep he is in creating this mess in the first place.

Personally I think he should be in prison

77 Cognito  9/29/08 8:37:36 pm reply quote

re: #17 RememberSekhmet?

Just checked my sooper sekrit Gmail account--two more employers want to interview me!

The employer I've been with these past five years had half gotten me convinced I couldn't work anywhere. It's nice to be wanted again!

Hey, congratulations. That's a great feeling.

78 wishing  9/29/08 8:37:40 pm reply quote

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

79 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:38:31 pm reply quote

The House Republicans are trying to get a bill that LOANS the money to the failing businesses and then they have to pay the money back in five years.

If pelosi thinks that she cannot get a bill passed in a bipartisan manner, she will ram through one with ACORN and all the trimmings.

Watch her.

80 MandyManners  9/29/08 8:38:33 pm reply quote

I'm out for now.

81 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:40:27 pm reply quote

re: #78 wishing

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

They thought they had the votes.
Then Pelosi made a rant of a partisan speech.
And another guy went on the radio saying how they were going to bash the Republicans on this in Nov.
Listen to Karl he explains it much better than I can

82 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:40:51 pm reply quote

He also details WHO wouldn't vote for it.

83 wishing  9/29/08 8:40:55 pm reply quote

re: #78 wishing

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

it was all a hand-wringing photo op? Gawd i hate em lol

84 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:41:00 pm reply quote

re: #62 jaunte

Have to remember that; the Dems needed 218 for passage, they have 235 members.

Yes, but the Dems are playing pure politic here and this is all meant to make the Repubs look bad.

They craft a bill that even Nancy appears happy with.

Obama says he's for it.

The Dems made sure it was defeated, they had the numbers, some held back and voted no to help Repubs look bad.

Then last step, blame it all on the Repubs. Keep shouting we were for it, Obama was for it, 2/3 Repubs voted no.

85 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:42:20 pm reply quote

re: #78 wishing

So let me get this straight: Pelosi, Speaker of the House, actually thought this bill would PASS when 95 Dems voted against it? Um, didnt she take a head count? Or is there something more sinister afoot? Perhaps this was a bluff and they really never intended to pass the Deal?
Yes I am paranoid at this point...

And yes, you're right.

86 wishing  9/29/08 8:42:47 pm reply quote

re: #81 Typicalwhitey

They thought they had the votes.
Then Pelosi made a rant of a partisan speech.
And another guy went on the radio saying how they were going to bash the Republicans on this in Nov.
Listen to Karl he explains it much better than I can

TW...are u suggesting that a rant by Pelosi scared away NINETY FIVE dems? I can see the Reps bailing...but 95 Dems? Over a two minute speech? Sorry, that is just too much for me to believe.

87 Macker  9/29/08 8:43:03 pm reply quote

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

Frak You. Sharmuta has a great idea. macker@biteme.com

/snicker

88 Maximu§  9/29/08 8:44:13 pm reply quote

re: #36 RememberSekhmet?

I was a drama weirdo in high school, we turn out OK, you know :D

You "Emo's" were easy to spot in high school. Leather mini-skirts and black lipstick....not that I'm against that.

89 jaunte  9/29/08 8:45:05 pm reply quote

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

90 Chip Designer  9/29/08 8:45:34 pm reply quote

Here is a fix for the current credit crunch that doesn't cost anything.

Institutions are afraid of mortgage backed securities because no one knows what they are worth. Is it a 300k mortgage on a now 200k house? Or a 400k house? The unknown is the problem.

Why not grade mortgages on the credit score of the homeowners? A high credit score mortgage holder is likely to continue servicing their mortgage even if the value of their home has decreased. A low scoring homeowner is likely to default even if there is equity in the home.

Within a few weeks, a true value of the mortgages could be known. And that would make these securities more liquid.

91 AmericanDefender  9/29/08 8:46:31 pm reply quote

Idea to Charles

A weekly post that have the question/comment/opinion of a user and Charles response. But only those he chose to respond to. Can't be too hard to put together. I think all of us miss Charles thoughts and this sites reasoning because we don't hear the argument behind it. Only the first opinion. I believe this would be a great addition.

92 Dark_Falcon  9/29/08 8:46:35 pm reply quote

re: #89 jaunte

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

See below for the reason he does not act:

re: #69 ggt

repost of Shameless Spin-off Plug. I think it's really important and timely information. Forgive if I seem to forward.

93 Palandine  9/29/08 8:46:45 pm reply quote

I simply could not believe Pelosi's gall today.

The President, Senator McCain, and the house and senate Republicans went out of their way not to point out that this crisis is essentially the dem's fault in the interests of getting a decent bill out.

Pelosi was on the point of having an agreement, and she says "Oh, by the way, voting for this agreement is a judgment on 8 years of failed Republican policies." She simply couldn't restrain her partisan rage.

McCain will not go hardcore on this. He's just too much into the Senate collegiality thing. Where are the 527s?

94 mcmeador  9/29/08 8:47:27 pm reply quote

I've heard that Ole Miss has access to LGF blocked. Could it be the other way around? Did you have Ole Miss IP addresses blocked?

95 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:47:28 pm reply quote

Great short read!

snip:

Pelosi screwed up royally. She is the Democratic Tom DeLay. Newt Gingrich was an ideologue, but Tom DeLay was simply a partisan, most keenly interested in maximizing his party's political power. Pelosi cut a deal in which, as far as I can tell, every single Republican in a safe seat had to vote yes so that the Democrats could maximize their no votes. Given that the Republican caucus is pretty much in open revolt, this was beyond moronic. She then spent a week openly and repeatedly blaming the Republicans and the Bush administration for the current crisis. The way she set things up, it was "Heads I win, tails you lose": vote for the deal and I'll paint you as heartless reactionaries bailing out your fat cat friends. If you're going to do that, you'd better make sure you have some goddamn margin for error in your own party. She didn't. Then she got up and delivered yet another speech blaming the Republicans for the bailout deal she was about to pass.
96 Sharmuta  9/29/08 8:47:45 pm reply quote

re: #89 jaunte

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

The least he could do is text us- or is that too close to phoning it in?

97 wishing  9/29/08 8:47:52 pm reply quote

re: #90 Chip Designer

I would vote for that Chip, if we could rename it something like *term Life Policy* lol
so ok Whole lIfe then

98 jaunte  9/29/08 8:48:32 pm reply quote

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Yes, that's an intersting set o connections. I sent that article to several on my email list today after Mandy M posted it.

99 EIDE_Interface  9/29/08 8:48:59 pm reply quote

re: #93 Palandine

I simply could not believe Pelosi's gall today.

The President, Senator McCain, and the house and senate Republicans went out of their way not to point out that this crisis is essentially the dem's fault in the interests of getting a decent bill out.

Pelosi was on the point of having an agreement, and she says "Oh, by the way, voting for this agreement is a judgment on 8 years of failed Republican policies." She simply couldn't restrain her partisan rage.

McCain will not go hardcore on this. He's just too much into the Senate collegiality thing. Where are the 527s?

McCain has already conceded the election, why should he go hardcore?

100 RememberSekhmet?  9/29/08 8:49:18 pm reply quote

re: #34 pat

"I want to know the names and email addresses of everyone who appears on LGF, excepting The Truth Squad". Obama Directive 4829.

Yes, my real name is Heywood. My last name is Jablome.

101 Walter L. Newton  9/29/08 8:49:20 pm reply quote

re: #89 jaunte

If anyone blames the republicans in front of me I would suggest that
-60% of the Dems voting for the bill isn't exactly overwhelming support
and
- It's a crisis? Where is the television address by Obama urging the country to get behind a bailout?

I agree. But it's all perception. The Dems are trying to make it look like Repubs are stalling this.

102 Typicalwhitey  9/29/08 8:49:20 pm reply quote

re: #86 wishing

TW...are u suggesting that a rant by Pelosi scared away NINETY FIVE dems? I can see the Reps bailing...but 95 Dems? Over a two minute speech? Sorry, that is just too much for me to believe.

See #95.
It wasn't one speech.

103 jaunte  9/29/08 8:49:55 pm reply quote

re: #101 Walter L. Newton

"Power before Country."

104 cliffster  9/29/08 8:50:11 pm reply quote

Hey all - I'm late to the game today. What's the consensus on the bailout, and on Nancy Pelosi?