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Open | Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:11:12 pm PDT

Max: Chief, we must use the Cone of Silence if we are to continue this conversation.

Chief: Max, the Cone of Silence never works.

Max: Still we must use it.

[The Cone of Silence lowers over them.]

Chief: Can you hear me?

Max: What?

Get Smart

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1 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:12:35pm

LOL- I loved that show.

2 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:14:24pm
3 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:15:01pm

GAZE- it's the new Cone of Silence.

4 OtisMyMan  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:15:07pm

Missed it by this much.

5 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:17:40pm

Eeyore has problems. Tonight I thought he took it to a new level.

6 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:18:05pm

I couldn't wait to get here tonight! Let the games begin. Speaking of games, I found out I'm channeling JFK!

Leadership Test

7 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:18:07pm

re: #5 Moe Katz

Eeyore has problems. Tonight I thought he took it to a new level.

Is he the new Maxwell Smart?

8 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:18:57pm

re: #7 Wyatt Earp

Is he the new Maxwell Smart?

?

9 Syrah  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:19:01pm

re: #5 Moe Katz

Eeyore has problems. Tonight I thought he took it to a new level.

Eeyore just needs to be ignored.

10 pat  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:19:27pm

Max Smart is running McCain's 'campaign'.

11 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:19:44pm

re: #9 Syrah

Yeah, but he almost always manages to jerk someone's chain and the fun begins anew.

12 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:19:47pm

re: #7 Wyatt Earp

Maxwell Smart never came into a room telling everyone over and over again that everything was lost and to just give up on the election... :-/

13 pat  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:20:26pm

Who is Eeyore?

14 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:20:36pm

re: #10 pat

Max Smart is running McCain's 'campaign'.

Barbara Feldon as 99 was even cuter than Palin IMHO. That might be an interesting ticket.

15 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:20:58pm

Ah, the old Professor Peter Peckinpah all purpose anti-personnel Peckinpah pocket pistol under the toupee trick.

16 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:21:02pm

re: #13 pat

Who is Eeyore?

EIDE_Interface

17 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:21:19pm

re: #5 Moe Katz

Eeyore has problems. Tonight I thought he took it to a new level.

Um- he did. GAZE is the new Cone of Silence.

18 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:21:20pm

re: #12 NomadOfNorad

Maxwell Smart never came into a room telling everyone over and over again that everything was lost and to just give up on the election... :-/

No, but he did insist on doing things by the book.

And he got the girl.

19 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:21:29pm

re: #13 pat

Who is Eeyore?

That EIDE_whatzitz guy. I forget his exact nick, but it starts with EIDE_

20 pat  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:21:44pm

re: #14 Moe Katz

Cutest nose ever.

21 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:22:01pm

re: #16 Moe Katz

EIDE_Interface

Not savage_n.?

22 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:22:14pm

re: #16 Moe Katz

EIDE_Interface

Ah, you beat me to it. Hehe.

23 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:22:15pm

re: #8 Moe Katz

?

The guy that is too dumb for his own good.

24 Syrah  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:22:39pm

re: #11 Moe Katz

Yeah, but he almost always manages to jerk someone's chain and the fun begins anew.

And then it devolves into an Eddy thread. Dull as watching paint dry.

25 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:22:42pm

Thanks for finding the latest version, Syrah- that's twice now I've gotten it from you.

26 Dasher  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:22:47pm

Karl Rove Reacts to the No Vote on the Bailout!

Unbelievable must listen to this... from John Gibson show also on [Link: homepage.mac.com...]

27 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:23:11pm

re: #23 Wyatt Earp

The guy that is too dumb for his own good.

And lurking in this thread dinging comments.

28 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:23:17pm

If only Eeyore would have used his powers for Niceness instead of Evil.

29 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:24:00pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

And lurking in this thread dinging comments.

And not in a good way. However will you get to sleep?

30 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:25:05pm

re: #12 NomadOfNorad

Maxwell Smart never came into a room telling everyone over and over again that everything was lost and to just give up on the election... :-/

Anyone so swayed by polls and statistics deserves what they get.

Of course I come from a long line of people who when they are told that all is lost and it is over, stand the hell up and say "in a pig's eye" and "over be damned" and "watch while I do it."

31 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:26:15pm

LOL- so pathetic.

32 pat  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:26:55pm

Drinking can cause gloom, but it rarely causes obsessive behavior.

33 x-wing  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:27:06pm

re: #8 Moe Katz

re: #24 Syrah

re: #27 Sharmuta

I took care of GAZEs down dings for ya.

34 LeePro  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:27:51pm

re: #13 pat

Who is Eeyore?

Eeyore


re: #16 Moe Katz

EIDE_Interface

LOL




/fastest drive-by EVUH! ! !

G'nite, {Lizards}!

¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

35 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:27:59pm

re: #32 pat

Drinking can cause gloom, but it rarely causes obsessive behavior.

It causes excessive tinkling, though.

36 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:28:20pm

"The old bulletproof cummerbund in the tuxedo trick."

37 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:29:32pm

re: #33 x-wing

re: #24 Syrah

re: #27 Sharmuta

I took care of GAZEs down dings for ya.

Thanks!

38 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:29:50pm

re: #30 galloping granny

Anyone so swayed by polls and statistics deserves what they get.

Of course I come from a long line of people who when they are told that all is lost and it is over, stand the hell up and say "in a pig's eye" and "over be damned" and "watch while I do it."

isn't that really the American way?

/all the quiters stayed over -----------------> there.

39 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:30:23pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

And lurking in this thread dinging comments.

Too much time on his hands. :D

And we'll keeping upticking all the posts he dings. :^D

40 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:30:45pm

re: #33 x-wing

re: #24 Syrah

re: #27 Sharmuta

I took care of GAZEs down dings for ya.

Thanks! You're a pal.

41 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:30:49pm

re: #36 Abu Al-Poopypants

LOL- even the quotes are cracking me up.

42 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:31:57pm

Zis is KAOS, ve don't down-ding here!

43 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:32:01pm

re: #6 Mel Lono

I couldn't wait to get here tonight! Let the games begin. Speaking of games, I found out I'm channeling JFK!

Leadership Test

then you can stay away from the wife when we meet.

/ %-)

44 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:32:07pm

re: #38 redc1c4

Eidy didn't like that.

45 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:32:25pm
46 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:32:52pm

re: #32 pat

Drinking can cause gloom, but it rarely causes obsessive behavior.

And not drinking can cause even more gloom.

I'll go for the "less gloom" option.

47 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:33:20pm

re: #44 Sharmuta

Eidy didn't like that.

Tough titties! :D :D :D

48 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:33:25pm

What gets me is he knows everyone hates it and he's even getting a kick out of that. I'm coming around to seeing it more like Sharmuta does. He's trolling.

49 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:34:32pm

Speaking of gloom, has the economy cratered yet?

50 HelloDare  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:34:34pm

Joe Biden = Maxwell Smart

51 Yankeeboy  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:35:44pm

Morning Lizards

52 x-wing  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:36:07pm

re: #49 Fenway_Nation


According to 3wood we're loing a trillion a day , give or take a billion.

53 cliffster  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:36:36pm

re: #48 Moe Katz

What gets me is he knows everyone hates it and he's even getting a kick out of that. I'm coming around to seeing it more like Sharmuta does. He's trolling.

Around since 2004, thousands of comments posted, and now this?

54 cliffster  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:37:04pm

Trading on Micex has been halted.

55 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:37:16pm

re: #47 NomadOfNorad

Tough titties! :D :D :D

Uh, what does Hillary have to do with it?

56 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:37:30pm

re: #16 Moe Katz

EIDE_Interface

that's an insult to the real Eeyore, and to all of his fans.
true story: i had a cow-orker whom, although grown and with fa,mily, was a Pooh fan. her cell @ w*rk was covered in Pooh, etc....

i came back from lunch one day to find the day's page from the calendar on my keyboard.

it was Eeyore, looking as optimistic as ever, observing that "if enthusiasm is contagious, i am immune." said cartoon had a place on honor in my cell until the day i was fired, and i have it still.

57 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:37:40pm

re: #38 redc1c4

isn't that really the American way?

/all the quiters stayed over -----------------> there.

Exactly! Though that had not dawned on me before. Thanks for expanding my view. I'll be using that with the kiddo.

I was thinking of my Grandma, who had what they used to call "milk leg" after her third child was born and was told she would never walk again. She did. Needed a special shoe, but she kept right on keeping on on both feet to 95.

And my Dad, both legs broken in WWII. He too, told he would never walk again. 87. Still walking. Though slowly.

And myself. Nearly 3 decades ago I drifted out of a coma to see two doctors in white coats standing at the end of my bed, where one said to the other "this one isn't going to make it." I did. With my entire upper right side paralyzed. I would never use it again they said. I do. I sent the doctor who was so hot to do surgery a picture of me turning on cartwheel on both arms about a year and a half later and I'm typing with that "paralyzed" right arm this very minute.

One thing that has always been a mantra in my family - You might not win, but winners never quit and quitters never win.

58 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:37:47pm

re: #53 cliffster

Around since 2004, thousands of comments posted, and now this?

They can't wrap their little minds around the fact that I'm not a troll. I might be a quitter, but I'm not a troll.

59 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:38:02pm

re: #50 HelloDare

Joe Biden = Maxwell Smart

You take that back! I'll not let such slurs against the late Don Adams or even Steve Carrell go unprotested!

60 hack  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:39:00pm

@ #49

not yet. check in around noon.

but seriously, america will survive. all this panic on wall street doesn't impress me. things will work out, with or without congress.

61 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:39:07pm

re: #44 Sharmuta

Eidy didn't like that.

well, here's a rotating pastry for him:

/me rolls doughnut down the walk

he knows what to do, i just doubt he's capable. %-)

62 YankeeBoy  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:39:51pm

#50 HelloDare

Joe Biden = Maxwell Smart

I never thought of that but close...very close.

63 cliffster  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:40:01pm

re: #58 EIDE_Interface

They can't wrap their little minds around the fact that I'm not a troll. I might be a quitter, but I'm not a troll.

That makes you more stupid, not less. Why is it fun for you to hang out, trying to get a reaction from people? How much of a loser do you have to be to sit in here in the middle of the night acting like that?

64 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:40:22pm

re: #61 redc1c4


he knows what to do, i just doubt he's capable. %-)

You have to admit, that's a difficult feat to pull off.

65 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:40:23pm

re: #43 redc1c4

then you can stay away from the wife when we meet.

/ %-)

marilyn

Not to be picky, but does she look like this? Can't wait for weet time.

66 Colonel Panik  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:40:37pm

Barack Obama: Latté Mugabe or Mussolini with melanin?

67 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:40:40pm

So how is this financial madness going to affect me, the little guy?

I just got my first credit card on Saturday but haven't used it yet. I have a net worth in the low three digits, no loans, one crappy car, and a bunch of firearms. I've recently started my own small business but it's VERY small, haven't even made business cards yet...

Roommate is really good with her money, she has a bulletproof job in a bankruptcy office, her only debt is car payments... Only about $1000 in her newly-opened IRA...

We're already poor... There is some food in the fridge. Are we going to die?

68 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:40:54pm

re: #53 cliffster

Around since 2004, thousands of comments posted, and now this?

That's why he's been given the benefit of the doubt to the extent he has. But the recent pattern is pretty sustained and consistent.

69 Oldasdirt  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:41:14pm

re: #49 Fenway_Nation

Speaking of gloom, has the economy cratered yet?


When it does,,the tax payer will be the last to know.

70 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:41:22pm

re: #60 hack

@ #49

not yet. check in around noon.

but seriously, america will survive. all this panic on wall street doesn't impress me. things will work out, with or without congress.

As far as I have seen in my lifetime, things tend to work out faster and better without the "help" of Congress than they do with it.

71 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:41:43pm

re: #48 Moe Katz

What gets me is he knows everyone hates it and he's even getting a kick out of that. I'm coming around to seeing it more like Sharmuta does. He's trolling.

what i've been saying for awhile............

/he didn't like those comments either, but then again, he's a lame troll.

72 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:41:44pm

re: #60 hack

@ #49

not yet. check in around noon.

but seriously, america will survive. all this panic on wall street doesn't impress me. things will work out, with or without congress.

I predict a small buying spree on Wall Street in the next session. And once the slide is over, I predict a HUGE buying spree.

Buy low, sell high!

73 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:42:03pm

re: #63 cliffster

That makes you more stupid, not less. Why is it fun for you to hang out, trying to get a reaction from people? How much of a loser do you have to be to sit in here in the middle of the night acting like that?

Well I'm depressed. Dianna was right about that.

74 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:42:17pm

re: #69 Oldasdirt

When it does,,the tax payer will be the last to know.

Not necessarily. If you get the Fox business channel, Neil Cavuto said earlier today that they would be on live all night to keep folks current on what was going on financially in the international markets.

75 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:42:26pm

re: #68 Moe Katz

That's why he's been given the benefit of the doubt to the extent he has. But the recent pattern is pretty sustained and consistent.

Ah, sure. Sleeper troll right?

76 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:42:29pm

re: #65 Mel Lono

marilyn

Not to be picky, but does she look like this? Can't wait for weet time.

not exactly: mine's above ground.

/yes, i went there. %-)

77 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:43:01pm

re: #58 EIDE_Interface

They can't wrap their little minds around the fact that I'm not a troll. I might be a quitter, but I'm not a troll.

I suspect you're going to be eating crow come November 5th. :P

78 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:43:19pm

re: #75 EIDE_Interface

Ah, sure. Lame troll right?

edited for accuracy.

79 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:44:17pm

re: #67 Pawn of the Oppressor

So how is this financial madness going to affect me, the little guy?

I just got my first credit card on Saturday but haven't used it yet. I have a net worth in the low three digits, no loans, one crappy car, and a bunch of firearms. I've recently started my own small business but it's VERY small, haven't even made business cards yet...

Roommate is really good with her money, she has a bulletproof job in a bankruptcy office, her only debt is car payments... Only about $1000 in her newly-opened IRA...

We're already poor... There is some food in the fridge. Are we going to die?

Buy gold. Then ammo.

80 OtisMyMan  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:44:24pm

Where can I find a Barney Frank pinata?

81 Colonel Panik  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:44:29pm

re: #67 Pawn of the Oppressor

So how is this financial madness going to affect me, the little guy?

I just got my first credit card on Saturday but haven't used it yet. I have a net worth in the low three digits, no loans, one crappy car, and a bunch of firearms.

We're already poor... There is some food in the fridge. Are we going to die?

If you have a .22, and a popcorn popper, and there are squirrels about... probably not.

A Huckaboy will survive.

82 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:44:31pm

re: #77 NomadOfNorad

I suspect you're going to be eating crow come November 5th. :P

I'd love to eat that crow. But it's not going to happen.

a) McCain is absolutely incompetent
b) The MSM is in the tank for Obama. Ann Althouse has a post up right now proving it.
c) I have no faith in any polilticians. My own Rep sounded like an absolute fool after the vote today. It's like GOD, why am I afflicted with these idiots?

83 Syrah  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:44:42pm

Goodnight all.

Some amusement on the Megan McArdle The politics of the bill thread.

I think a few Lizards other than just myself were having some sport with the Dems over there.

It's worth a scan if you want a quick and dirty preview of how the left will try to spin Nancy's Epic Fail on the Black Monday Bailout Vote.

I think that something stinks about the vote. There were too darned many Dems from rock solid safe seats voting against the bill for me to believe that everything was on the up and up. I have some doubts about it all in a something is rotten in Denmark sort of way.

Time will tell the tale. It could be that Nancy really is just that incompetent.

Again, Goodnight.

84 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:45:12pm

re: #67 Pawn of the Oppressor

if it goes bad, firearms, ammo and reloading gear are your best investment....

until then, don't panic.

(too much, anyway. %-)

85 Colonel Panik  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:45:55pm

re: #80 OtisMyMan

Where can I find a Barney Frank pinata?

Barney Frank's involvement with questionable mortgage lending practices is making me home-o-phobic.

86 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:45:55pm

re: #71 redc1c4

what i've been saying for awhile............

/he didn't like those comments either, but then again, he's a lame troll.

Others are finally join our way of thinking, but he really needs to be put on GAZE. He just wants attention, and even negative attention will do.

87 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:46:08pm

re: #82 EIDE_Interface

I'd love to eat that crow. But it's not going to happen.

a) McCain is absolutely incompetent
b) The MSM is in the tank for Obama. Ann Althouse has a post up right now proving it.
c) I have no faith in any polilticians. My own Rep sounded like an absolute fool after the vote today. It's like GOD, why am I afflicted with these idiots?

because they are just like you, and therefore your perfect representative?

/first guess

88 Oldasdirt  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:46:37pm

I have jumped out of my window twice tonight,2 and 1/2 feet to ground.
But that second time hurt.Damn holley bushes.

89 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:46:46pm

re: #71 redc1c4

Yes, I've completely lost sympathy with him. So many people tonight almost begging him to stop, and he doesn't give a flying fuck how he is affecting them. No sympathy.

90 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:46:48pm

re: #79 Mel Lono

Buy gold. Then ammo.

Buy ammo. Then stocks in food companies. People always have to eat. Kraft and General Mills aren't hitting the skids any time soon. Rack up some cash and buy land. God isn't making any more of that. If you can't sell it you can always live on it, grow enough food to feed yourself on it or just sit and look at it.

91 Meremortal  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:46:53pm

You people just now figuring out that sociopath moby-troll EIDE?

92 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:46:53pm

re: #79 Mel Lono

Buy gold. Then ammo.

And make some wine and/or beer.

No matter how bad things may get, there will always be a market for ammo, alcohol, and precious metals.

Black Powder and Alcohol

93 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:47:20pm

re: #52 x-wing

According to 3wood we're loing a trillion a day , give or take a billion.

We definitely lost more than a trillion yesterday, the House No vote already cost us more than the "plan".

/and now we're going to multiply that mistake daily for a while starting tomorrow

94 x-wing  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:47:26pm

re: #82 EIDE_Interface

I'd love to eat that crow. But it's not going to happen.

a) McCain is absolutely incompetent
b) The MSM is in the tank for Obama. Ann Althouse has a post up right now proving it.
c) I have no faith in any polilticians. My own Rep sounded like an absolute fool after the vote today. It's like GOD, why am I afflicted with these idiots?


Who's your Rep.?

95 cliffster  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:47:36pm
96 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:48:24pm

re: #83 Syrah

Goodnight all.

Some amusement on the Megan McArdle The politics of the bill thread.

I think a few Lizards other than just myself were having some sport with the Dems over there.

It's worth a scan if you want a quick and dirty preview of how the left will try to spin Nancy's Epic Fail on the Black Monday Bailout Vote.

I think that something stinks about the vote. There were too darned many Dems from rock solid safe seats voting against the bill for me to believe that everything was on the up and up. I have some doubts about it all in a something is rotten in Denmark sort of way.

Time will tell the tale. It could be that Nancy really is just that incompetent.

Again, Goodnight.

There are NO rock solid safe seats for the members of the House this november. Every single one of them is up for reelection. The only ones that are "safe" from the wrath of their constituents are the few running unopposed. And they can still be recalled.

97 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:49:38pm

re: #89 Moe Katz

Yes, I've completely lost sympathy with him. So many people tonight almost begging him to stop, and he doesn't give a flying fuck how he is affecting them. No sympathy.

Affecting who? Sharmuta has dehumanized me for the last month on these comment threads. Out of respect to Dianna, I won't be pessimistic while she's around.

98 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:50:06pm

re: #79 Mel Lono

Buy gold. Then ammo.

if you have ammo, you can get gold.

/practical

99 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:50:14pm

re: #52 x-wing

Are you ready for my crazy-ass consiracy theory of the night? I'm thinking enough congresscritters are dragging their feet on this and buying up stock for just about anything at bargain-basement prices before approving whatever version the latest bailout proposal entails, then divesting themselves of the stock once it regains its value.

I've also been suspicious of this proposal from the outset. Yes, I think something needs to be done, but not while flinging $100,000,000 at ACORN or surreptitously including some moratorium on shale oil exploration. Just the simple 'Pass this! PASS THIS NOW!' tone with which it's being viewed with makes me think it's chock full of things we (taxpayers or investors) wouldn't want there in 12 months.....

100 x-wing  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:51:08pm

re: #93 Killian Bundy

We definitely lost more than a trillion yesterday, the House No vote already cost us more than the "plan".

/and now we're going to multiply that mistake daily for a while starting tomorrow


Wheeeeeeeeeeee!

/////

101 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:51:20pm

re: #91 Meremortal

You people just now figuring out that sociopath moby-troll EIDE?

Well I tend to give people a tremendous amount of leeway, it's a principle of mine. But enough is enough.

102 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:51:20pm

re: #91 Meremortal

You people just now figuring out that sociopath moby-troll EIDE?

Nope- know it for weeks, myself.

103 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:51:42pm

re: #82 EIDE_Interface

I'd love to eat that crow. But it's not going to happen.

a) McCain is absolutely incompetent
b) The MSM is in the tank for Obama. Ann Althouse has a post up right now proving it.
c) I have no faith in any polilticians. My own Rep sounded like an absolute fool after the vote today. It's like GOD, why am I afflicted with these idiots?

I have a sneaking suspicion that God has other plans come this November. :D

104 OtisMyMan  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:52:34pm

Is this the week when the enemy within became more of a threat than the enemy without?

105 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:53:26pm

re: #97 EIDE_Interface

You're the one who called McCain scum tonight. You've made your own bed and it has nothing to do with me.

106 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:53:39pm

re: #103 NomadOfNorad

I have a sneaking suspicion that God has other plans come this November. :D

I'm an atheist. We only make our own fate by our actions. Counting on a mystical superbeing to bail you out is not going to help.

107 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:53:41pm

re: #103 NomadOfNorad

I have a sneaking suspicion that God has other plans come this November. :D

He always has other plans. But, you can still tell Him yours if you want to give Him a good laugh.

108 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:53:44pm

re: #92 victor_yugo

And make some wine and/or beer.

No matter how bad things may get, there will always be a market for ammo, alcohol, and precious metals.

Black Powder and Alcohol

Hmmmm... you watching this thing on History Channel about moonshiners like I am? :D :D :D

109 x-wing  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:53:51pm

re: #97 EIDE_Interface


Somebody quick, call the whaaaaaambulance

110 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:53:54pm

re: #90 galloping granny

Buy ammo. Then stocks in food companies. People always have to eat. Kraft and General Mills aren't hitting the skids any time soon. Rack up some cash and buy land. God isn't making any more of that. If you can't sell it you can always live on it, grow enough food to feed yourself on it or just sit and look at it.

I stand corrected. Land would be a good idea. The question is where? I'm thinking Australia, maybe do awalkabout.

111 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:54:14pm

re: #105 Sharmuta

You're the one who called McCain scum tonight. You've made your own bed and it has nothing to do with me.

You started calling me a moby/troll from the night of the Palin speech. Deal with it.

112 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:55:31pm

re: #111 EIDE_Interface

You started calling me a moby/troll from the night of the Palin speech. Deal with it.

Yeah- because you called her and her family White Trash. Now McCain is scum. You are not worthy to kiss John or Sarah's asses.

113 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:55:59pm

re: #97 EIDE_Interface

Affecting who? Sharmuta has dehumanized me for the last month on these comment threads. Out of respect to Dianna, I won't be pessimistic while she's around.

nice of you to blame Sharmuta for *your* actions.....

/sucks to be you, don't it?

114 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:56:00pm

At least 2 reasons McCain is scum:

1. He supported amenesty
2. In 1998, McCain made a joke during a speech at a Republican fundraiser about President Clinton's daughter, Chelsea, saying: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."[66] The joke was thought so offensive that many newspapers declined to print it verbatim;[66

115 Meremortal  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:56:08pm

re: #102 Sharmuta

Nope- know it for weeks, myself.

I knew that Shar, almost mentioned you in the post...and should have given you credit.

Meremortal:: Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:40:54 pm
Attention you lizard friends. I've been here since the memo days, years before I registered to post. I often read posting records to learn the various agendas, good and bad, of posters. EIDEInterface is a sociopathic manipulative moby and should be shunned. Carry on.
---------

We are all revealed by our posting records.

116 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:56:19pm

GAZE

117 x-wing  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:56:51pm

re: #99 Fenway_Nation


I would not call that crazy-ass. Right now I could believe alot of things. This housing thing has been brewing for 2 years and now all of the sudden it hits the fan this hard.

/I was born in the dark,but it wasn't last night

118 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:56:55pm

re: #106 EIDE_Interface

I'm an atheist. We only make our own fate by our actions. Counting on a mystical superbeing to bail you out is not going to help.

God: The Ultimate Autobiography
(Holy Ghost-written by Jeremy Pascall)

Featuring:

* THE TRUTH ABOUT ADAM AND EVE, and why they were fired from the world's first theme park.
* SODOM AND GOMORRAH: THE CITIES OF SIN, including street plans, good food guides and listings of the best clubs, discos, and bars. And why compulsory demolition orders were placed on all of them.
* BEGETTING: THE DO'S AND DON'T'S, including why you shouldn't covet your neighbor's ass.

And exclusively revealing:

* The Eleventh Commandment!
* That pigs were *meant* to fly, and rhinos were designed to live under stones!
* That the sky should have been called "Waxtl" but Adam couldn't pronounce it!

Plus a word for any atheists among you: "Wrong!"

119 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:57:49pm

re: #110 Mel Lono

I stand corrected. Land would be a good idea. The question is where? I'm thinking Australia, maybe do awalkabout.

I'm not so sure where is important. More like where not. Not on the coast - too high priced. Not in the desert - too hard to grow crops. Not in the path of a future highway. Probably get taken by imminent domain.

120 cliffster  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:57:50pm

re: #111 EIDE_Interface

You started calling me a moby/troll from the night of the Palin speech. Deal with it.

I feel sorry for you that you have nothing better in your life than to hang out here and act like a 6 year old child being a brat. What a waste.

121 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:57:58pm

re: #97 EIDE_Interface

Affecting who? Sharmuta has dehumanized me for the last month on these comment threads. Out of respect to Dianna, I won't be pessimistic while she's around.

If you can stifle it when Dianna is around, why do you find it necessary to inflict the lamentations of Jeremiah on everyone else? Read everything addressed to you on the last thread. Print all of these posts. Think about what these people are saying.... how you are affecting them, how you are making them feel. Do you have any control over that?

122 victor_yugo  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:58:19pm

re: #108 NomadOfNorad

Hmmmm... you watching this thing on History Channel about moonshiners like I am? :D :D :D

Nope, just a closet Leslie Fish fan.

/oops

123 Intrepid  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:58:29pm

re: #106 EIDE_Interface

I'm an atheist. We only make our own fate by our actions. Counting on a mystical superbeing to bail you out is not going to help.

Dude, get a faith! It might help you with your condition.

124 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:58:41pm

re: #115 Meremortal

I knew that Shar, almost mentioned you in the post...and should have given you credit.

Meremortal:: Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:40:54 pm
Attention you lizard friends. I've been here since the memo days, years before I registered to post. I often read posting records to learn the various agendas, good and bad, of posters. EIDEInterface is a sociopathic manipulative moby and should be shunned. Carry on.
---------

Talk about dehumanzing.

125 galloping granny  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:59:02pm

re: #114 EIDE_Interface

At least 2 reasons McCain is scum:

1. He supported amenesty
2. In 1998, McCain made a joke during a speech at a Republican fundraiser about President Clinton's daughter, Chelsea, saying: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."[66] The joke was thought so offensive that many newspapers declined to print it verbatim;[66

You are an utter fool.

126 NomadOfNorad  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:59:19pm

re: #106 EIDE_Interface

I'm an atheist. We only make our own fate by our actions. Counting on a mystical superbeing to bail you out is not going to help.

Doesn't particularly surprise me. The fact that you DON'T have faith is demonstrated BY the fact you're so pessimistic today.

127 EIDE_Interface  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:59:47pm

re: #121 Moe Katz

If you can stifle it when Dianna is around, why do you find it necessary to inflict the lamentations of Jeremiah on everyone else? Read everything addressed to you on the last thread. Print all of these posts. Think about what these people are saying.... how you are affecting them, how you are making them feel. Do you have any control over that?

She's the only one who treated me like a human being. The rest of you starting with Sharmuta dehumanized me and kept at it.

128 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:59:56pm

Did the Great Lizard put the mute button on yet?

129 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 29, 2008 11:59:57pm

re: #109 x-wing

Somebody quick, call the whaaaaaambulance

LOL

130 OtisMyMan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:05am

re: #110 Mel Lono

I stand corrected. Land would be a good idea. The question is where? I'm thinking Australia, maybe do awalkabout.

Nope. They have lost their weapons. When the second amendment goes, the others will follow in swift order. I firmly believe we are 3 acts away from a revolution at all times. Perhaps gas prices is the first. The bailout could possibly be the second. Come for our guns..........you better come a'shooting.

131 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:33am

re: #106 EIDE_Interface

I'm an atheist. We only make our own fate by our actions. Counting on a mystical superbeing to bail you out is not going to help.

so now that you've, to quote Mandy, "fu*cked yourself" here, what are your plans

GPS? FOAD? ESAD? TAFFARD? GFY?
not that we care, mind you, because you're simply not that important.

we just want to see you do one or more of the above..... %-)

132 Meremortal  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:53am

re: #101 Moe Katz

Well I tend to give people a tremendous amount of leeway, it's a principle of mine. But enough is enough.

I hear you, respect the concept and congratulate your illumination in this matter.

I usually leave the area when EIDE takes over a thread. It's just no fun nor interesting when EIDE is around. Other moby/trolls like Gordon or Le Trole were at least entertaining.

Bye all.

133 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:56am

re: #127 EIDE_Interface

She's the only one who treated me like a human being. The rest of you starting with Sharmuta dehumanized me and kept at it.

That is utterly untrue, because I have not treated you badly.

134 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:02:23am

re: #110 Mel Lono

I stand corrected. Land would be a good idea. The question is where? I'm thinking Australia, maybe do awalkabout.

can't won guns there.... better to stay here and fight it out.

/last, best hope and all that.

135 Intrepid  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:03:08am

Oh good Lord, EIDE_Interface has decided to take over another thread and make it about himself.

Can we all just agree to ignore him? So that he goes away?

136 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:03:30am

re: #127 EIDE_Interface

She's the only one who treated me like a human being. The rest of you starting with Sharmuta dehumanized me and kept at it.

I have NOT. I have treated you like a mensch and explained over and over to you that you were pissing people off. So have quite a few others. You have to take responsibility for the way you are impacting people, no one is setting out to depersonalize you.

137 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:03:47am

re: #133 galloping granny

That is utterly untrue, because I have not treated you badly.

Allright, you and Dianna then.

No one can find a single instance that I ever called anyone here a name. All the abuse has been one-way.

138 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:04:17am

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

Are you ready for my crazy-ass consiracy theory of the night? I'm thinking enough congresscritters are dragging their feet on this and buying up stock for just about anything at bargain-basement prices before approving whatever version the latest bailout proposal entails, then divesting themselves of the stock once it regains its value.

I've also been suspicious of this proposal from the outset. Yes, I think something needs to be done, but not while flinging $100,000,000 at ACORN or surreptitously including some moratorium on shale oil exploration. Just the simple 'Pass this! PASS THIS NOW!' tone with which it's being viewed with makes me think it's chock full of things we (taxpayers or investors) wouldn't want there in 12 months.....

perfect paranoia is perfect awareness.

i don;t have a hard time living with at least some of this idea.

(and isn't *that* a shame? %-)

139 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:05:17am

re: #131 redc1c4

so now that you've, to quote Mandy, "fu*cked yourself" here, what are your plans

GPS? FOAD? ESAD? TAFFARD? GFY?
not that we care, mind you, because you're simply not that important.

we just want to see you do one or more of the above..... %-)

OMGWTFBBQ

And why, on the most visceral level, I oppose any government bailout:

TANSTAAFL

140 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:05:33am

BBC:Japan's Nikkei index ended Tuesday down 4.1%, and Hong Kong's Hang Seng had lost 2.4% in late trading.

Meanwhile, in Russia all trading has been suspended on the country's two main stock markets.

141 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:05:51am

Well, weet dreams, fellow lizards... I'm powering off and heading to bed here shortly...

142 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:01am

re: #134 redc1c4

can't won guns there.... better to stay here and fight it out.

/last, best hope and all that.

WTF? No guns? What about those nasty roos and crocs and spiders and God knows what else....

143 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:21am

Instead of sitting here arguing, go watch this -

This is by the same guy as did the Bad Company videos. And if it is as well documented as those, this is downright chilling.

144 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:49am

Don't someone here know how to ping Ed's IP?

145 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:07:09am

re: #124 EIDE_Interface

Talk about dehumanzing.

you misspelled "accurate".

here to help!

146 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:07:30am

re: #137 EIDE_Interface

Allright, you and Dianna then.

No one can find a single instance that I ever called anyone here a name. All the abuse has been one-way.

You need to take responsibility for how you are affecting people. I'd like to see you come on LGF for a week and just try to get up-dings. Just as an exercise. You might like it the results.

147 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:07:43am
148 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:00am

re: #141 NomadOfNorad

Well, weet dreams, fellow lizards... I'm powering off and heading to bed here shortly...

G'night nomad, weet dreams!

149 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:04am

re: #145 redc1c4

you misspelled "accurate".

here to help!

ROFL!

150 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:52am

re: #148 Moe Katz

G'night nomad, weet dreams!

Nite, Moe Katz.

151 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:09:31am

re: #146 Moe Katz

You need to take responsibility for how you are affecting people. I'd like to see you come on LGF for a week and just try to get up-dings. Just as an exercise. You might like it the results.

I might just try that. It's not like I'm gaining any friends with my pessimistic outlook. But it's just so bad that I can't hold it in. It's like the MSM pollution has caused this tidal wave of toxic sludge that has battered my defenses to such an extent.

152 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:09:40am

re: #114 EIDE_Interface

At least 2 reasons McCain is scum:

1. He supported amenesty
2. In 1998, McCain made a joke during a speech at a Republican fundraiser about President Clinton's daughter, Chelsea, saying: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."[66] The joke was thought so offensive that many newspapers declined to print it verbatim;[66


His support for amnesty may be our saving grace, in that many Latinos might not reject a McCain ticket.

And that Clinton joke is rude, but funny.

153 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:30am

re: #137 EIDE_Interface

Allright, you and Dianna then.

No one can find a single instance that I ever called anyone here a name. All the abuse has been one-way.

But you call Mac scum And Palin white trash,and you want us to show you any kind of respect.

154 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:39am

Off I go to zzzz-land. Thanks for fighting the good fight. Night

155 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:53am

Oh, brother.

156 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:11:14am

re: #127 EIDE_Interface

She's the only one who treated me like a human being. The rest of you starting with Sharmuta dehumanized me and kept at it.

dude: i'm a Usenet veteran of the great flame wars of olde, and you're just a sad lame troll. your stench is detectable upwind and you fool only those souls given to kindness.

you have dehumanized yourself, and sympathy is in the dictionary, right between "shit" & "syphilis", which is what it's worth and all you'll get here.

you should ask for the stick as a mercy in your hour of need.

/but you don't have the cojones for that, do you?

157 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:11:41am

re: #151 EIDE_Interface

I might just try that. It's not like I'm gaining any friends with my pessimistic outlook. But it's just so bad that I can't hold it in. It's like the MSM pollution has caused this tidal wave of toxic sludge that has battered my defenses to such an extent.

There's a solution to that. Don't listen to the MSM or read moonbat websites.
Stay on a healthy diet of Rush, Laura, Sean, LGF and Free Republic.

158 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:11am

re: #155 Sharmuta
Where art thou?

159 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:31am

re: #156 redc1c4

you should ask for the stick as a mercy in your hour of need.

/but you don't have the cojones for that, do you?

I do, if she's cute enough. ;-)

160 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:34am

re: #140 Abu Al-Poopypants

BBC:Japan's Nikkei index ended Tuesday down 4.1%, and Hong Kong's Hang Seng had lost 2.4% in late trading.

Meanwhile, in Russia all trading has been suspended on the country's two main stock markets.

Yiiipppeeeeee!

If we're gonna go down, I want everyone eles to go down harder.

/eat that Putie Poot

161 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:13:04am

re: #151 EIDE_Interface

I might just try that. It's not like I'm gaining any friends with my pessimistic outlook. But it's just so bad that I can't hold it in. It's like the MSM pollution has caused this tidal wave of toxic sludge that has battered my defenses to such an extent.

/me hands the whiner a Chaplain's chit....

no one cares.

162 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:13:29am

re: #151 EIDE_Interface

I might just try that. It's not like I'm gaining any friends with my pessimistic outlook. But it's just so bad that I can't hold it in. It's like the MSM pollution has caused this tidal wave of toxic sludge that has battered my defenses to such an extent.

I think you should get some help. I believe you when you say you are depressed. But antagonizing everyone and isolating yourself will only make it worse. Why call McCain a scum? What reaction do you expect to get with something like that? Before you post, think about what the reaction is going to be.

163 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:13:36am

LGF is not a clinic. LGF is not a therapy support group.

164 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:27am

ASIA MARKETS
Stocks off lows on hopes bailout may be revived

HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- Asian markets pared steep losses Tuesday on hopes that U.S. lawmakers will reconsider a $700 billion financial-sector bailout they rejected overnight.

The expectations strengthened after stocks record losses on Wall Street overnight, triggering a similar sell-off in Asia.
Global leaders, including Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, and U.S. companies such as Microsoft Corp. (MSFT:Microsoft Corporation
MSFT 25.01, -1.56, -5.9%) also urged the lawmakers to reconsider the bailout plan to help restore stability in global financial markets.

. . .

In Tokyo, the Nikkei 225 Average recently dropped 3.4% to 11,345.05 after falling as low as 11,160.83 earlier in the day. The broader Topix index fell 3.1% to 1,092.42.
Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index was recently down 2.4% at 17,447.66, coming off the day's low at 16,799.29. The Hang Seng China Enterprises Index fell 3.8% to 8,615.61.
Taiwan's Taiex, which slid more than 6% earlier in the session, was recently down 4.3% at 5,674.91, as trading resumed after a holiday.

It's still bad and the Asian markets haven't closed yet, but it's not as bad as it was earlier.

/let's all pray this upbeat attitude spreads to Europe later this morning, because our Congress ain't back in session until Wednesday at the earliest

165 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:30am

re: #144 Oldasdirt

Don't someone here know how to ping Ed's IP?

For what?

166 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:47am

re: #151 EIDE_Interface

I might just try that. It's not like I'm gaining any friends with my pessimistic outlook. But it's just so bad that I can't hold it in. It's like the MSM pollution has caused this tidal wave of toxic sludge that has battered my defenses to such an extent.

Let me try another tack. What is your favorite "Rubber Soul" song and why? I'm guessing Nowhere Man but enlighten me.

///know me

167 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:58am

re: #152 Colonel Panik

His support for amnesty may be our saving grace, in that many Latinos might not reject a McCain ticket.

And that Clinton joke is rude, but funny.

she was a homely chile, definitely her mother's daughter, until she could afford good surgery and time away from the cameras......

still, what sane dude would want them for in-laws?

168 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:14am

re: #164 Killian Bundy

ASIA MARKETS
Stocks off lows on hopes bailout may be revived

It's still bad and the Asian markets haven't closed yet, but it's not as bad as it was earlier.

/let's all pray this upbeat attitude spreads to Europe later this morning, because our Congress ain't back in session until Wednesday at the earliest

And that might just be a blessing in disguise.

169 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:28am

re: #153 x-wing

But you call Mac scum And Palin white trash,and you want us to show you any kind of respect.

And concedes the election in September. He's quit on America. I can't respect that.

170 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:36am

re: #137 EIDE_Interface

All the abuse has been one-way.

/gee, think there might be a reason for that?

171 runrabbitrun  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:56am

One more linky before beddy-bye....

Don't know if this has been posted before, but a doomsday fantasy formulation of Melanie Phillip's earlier lament, from the brilliantly wicked David Kahane: The Screw Alinsky Letters: Wormwood redux.

172 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:16:00am

re: #163 Sharmuta

LGF is not a clinic. LGF is not a therapy support group.

Amen Sister! Preach on!

not that it's church either, by most standards anyway. %-)

173 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:16:59am

re: #165 galloping granny

For what?

shits & grins?

(ELINT)

174 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:17:25am

re: #163 Sharmuta

LGF is not a clinic. LGF is not a therapy support group.


I know i feel better when i read stuff here.Well,,except for the special Ed guy.

175 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:17:27am

re: #166 Mel Lono

Let me try another tack. What is your favorite "Rubber Soul" song and why? I'm guessing Nowhere Man but enlighten me.

///know me

"In My Life" - it has a wistful quality to it.

176 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:18:28am

re: #142 Mel Lono

WTF? No guns? What about those nasty roos and crocs and spiders and God knows what else....

Aussies can own rifles and shotguns, just no semi autos. Bolt action and lever action rifles, and break open shotguns...I think pumps might have been banned.

PIstols can be owned as well but with a lot of bureaucratic restrictions.

The gun laws vary from state to state with Queensland being the least restrictive, IIRC. Queensland is where most of the crocs are BTW.

I've talked to a few Aussies here in Phoenix at the ranges who have told me not everyone turned their semi-autos in. There are probably a lot of L1A1's, AR-15's, Valmets and Ruger Mini-14's coated in cosmoline, sealed in plastic, and buried for the time when they might really be needed under that red Aussie dirt.

177 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:18:56am

re: #174 Oldasdirt

Yes- we do support each other in many ways, but that's not what I meant. Eide needs clinical help and that's not what LGF is for.

178 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:19:20am

re: #159 victor_yugo

I do, if she's cute enough. ;-)

you're offering to do Eddie, to improve it's mood?

you're either a noble and selfless lizard, or a world class pervert.

either way, i stand in awe.......

(backed into a corner. %-)

179 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:19:35am

re: #165 galloping granny
Give him his IP,,and mabey run him off? We do it where i fly online.The guy that runs the site knows how.

180 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:19:50am

re: #172 redc1c4

Amen Sister! Preach on!

not that it's church either, by most standards anyway. %-)

The Church of What's Happenin' Now!

181 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:19:57am

re: #168 galloping granny

And that might just be a blessing in disguise.

They have to do something ASAP.

/this is a much bigger and more systemic problem that the Federal Reserve and Treasury can staunch without help, the consequences are already manifesting themselves

182 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:20:00am

re: #174 Oldasdirt

I know i feel better when i read stuff here.Well,,except for the special Ed guy.

more informed and less alone, maybe. better? that depends.....

183 JeremyR  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:20:07am

re: #16 Moe Katz

EIDE_Interface

EIDE_Inyourface?

184 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:21:02am

re: #152 Colonel Panik

His support for amnesty may be our saving grace, in that many Latinos might not reject a McCain ticket.

And that Clinton joke is rude, but funny.

Many Latinos support McCain - including this guy - one of the hottest tickets around in Latin music these days.

185 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:21:28am

re: #178 redc1c4

you're either a noble and selfless lizard, or a world class pervert.

either way, i stand in awe.......

(backed into a corner. %-)

Oh, wow, redc1c4 in awe of little ol' me?

/the latter

186 capitalist piglet  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:22:01am

re: #143 galloping granny

Instead of sitting here arguing, go watch this -

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

This is by the same guy as did the Bad Company videos. And if it is as well documented as those, this is downright chilling.

I've been reading about all this stuff tonight, and I just watched this - I think my head is gong to explode.

John McCain has got to save us from this man. I hope the old Navy vet has one more tough fight in him.

187 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:22:48am

re: #175 EIDE_Interface

"In My Life" - it has a wistful quality to it.

In my Life

For all to hear, then.

188 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:23:11am

re: #176 Colonel Panik

Aussies can own rifles and shotguns, just no semi autos. Bolt action and lever action rifles, and break open shotguns...I think pumps might have been banned.

PIstols can be owned as well but with a lot of bureaucratic restrictions.

The gun laws vary from state to state with Queensland being the least restrictive, IIRC. Queensland is where most of the crocs are BTW.

I've talked to a few Aussies here in Phoenix at the ranges who have told me not everyone turned their semi-autos in. There are probably a lot of L1A1's, AR-15's, Valmets and Ruger Mini-14's coated in cosmoline, sealed in plastic, and buried for the time when they might really be needed under that red Aussie dirt.

No surprise there. Aussies come from the same stock Americans do.

189 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:23:19am

r: #176 Colonel Panik

Aussies can own rifles and shotguns, just no semi autos. Bolt action and lever action rifles, and break open shotguns...I think pumps might have been banned.

PIstols can be owned as well but with a lot of bureaucratic restrictions.

The gun laws vary from state to state with Queensland being the least restrictive, IIRC. Queensland is where most of the crocs are BTW.

I've talked to a few Aussies here in Phoenix at the ranges who have told me not everyone turned their semi-autos in. There are probably a lot of L1A1's, AR-15's, Valmets and Ruger Mini-14's coated in cosmoline, sealed in plastic, and buried for the time when they might really be needed under that red Aussie dirt.

not the same thing as having them handy when you really do (not "be") need them. and besides, they *are* illegal, so the govt can do whatever they want to you when you dig them up. how many people are up for a full on revolution?

190 JeremyR  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:23:24am

re: #152 Colonel Panik

His support for amnesty may be our saving grace, in that many Latinos might not reject a McCain ticket.

And that Clinton joke is rude, but funny.

Funny? its a riot.
As for Mccains stance on Amnesty, he realizes how difficult it will be to run them all out as long as businesses are willing to turn a blind eye. He wanted to fix the problem at the source, the people who hire and take advantage of them.
He had reasons, I just don't particularly agree with letting them stay.

191 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:23:37am

re: #186 capitalist piglet

I've been reading about all this stuff tonight, and I just watched this - I think my head is gong to explode.

John McCain has got to save us from this man. I hope the old Navy vet has one more tough fight in him.

Don't forget to watch part 2.

192 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:24:51am

re: #185 victor_yugo

Oh, wow, redc1c4 in awe of little ol' me?

/the latter

you always honor the threat.

then you move to neutralize and defeat it.....

/check 6! %-)

193 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:25:02am

Thanks for the Ayers videos, I'll have to catch up on them when I get the chance.

194 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:25:04am

re: #183 JeremyR


Funny that I allude to the Book of Lamentations and some cat named Jeremy appears! The name in its Hebrew form Yirmiyahu means "G-d will uplift"!

195 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:25:32am

re: #176 Colonel Panik

In the memory bank. Thank you.

196 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:26:36am

re: #194 Moe Katz

Funny that I allude to the Book of Lamentations and some cat named Jeremy appears! The name in its Hebrew form Yirmiyahu means "G-d will uplift"!

I can't believe in a god that would allow the Holocaust to happen.

197 capitalist piglet  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:26:49am

re: #191 galloping granny

Don't forget to watch part 2.


There's a part two? Okay...I'll go find it. (I'm gonna have nightmares, granny.)

198 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:26:52am

re: #189 redc1c4

r: #176 Colonel Panik

not the same thing as having them handy when you really do (not "be") need them. and besides, they *are* illegal, so the govt can do whatever they want to you when you dig them up. how many people are up for a full on revolution?

When a gajillion screaming Indonesian jihadis invade, I think the government will change it's tune pretty quick.

199 runrabbitrun  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:26:54am

yoohoo galloping granny - thanks for the links to the videos, left an answer to your post including them in the prior thread - have a very good night and an even better morning dear lizards, all!

200 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:27:07am

re: #196 EIDE_Interface

I can't believe in a god that would allow the Holocaust to happen.

Oy.

201 JeremyR  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:27:19am

re: #194 Moe Katz

Funny that I allude to the Book of Lamentations and some cat named Jeremy appears! The name in its Hebrew form Yirmiyahu means "G-d will uplift"!

And my full name when slurred is Jeremiah.

202 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:27:37am

re: #196 EIDE_Interface

I can't believe in a god that would allow the Holocaust to happen.

but then again, you've already said you don't believe......

203 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:27:57am

re: #196 EIDE_Interface

I can't believe in a god that would allow the Holocaust to happen.

Do you believe in a God that allowed the world to happen?

204 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:28:56am

re: #185 victor_yugo

Oh, wow, redc1c4 in awe of little ol' me?

/the latter

Hey if you're willing to take one for the team, you have my respect :>}

205 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:29:01am

re: #201 JeremyR

And my full name when slurred is Jeremiah.

Yes!

206 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:30:00am

re: #205 Moe Katz

Yes!

However, the claim that he was a bullfrog is disputed by scholars.

207 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:30:13am

re: #203 Mel Lono

Do you believe in a God that allowed the world to happen?

I don't believe in any supernatural beings to begin with. If you study history, you'd know why humans came up with supernatural beings, because they didn't understand the forces of nature. Then later, some people cynically used their own people's superstitions to form priesthoods and so on. That's how organized religion came into being. I don't doubt that there are many true believers - but their superstitions are preyed upon by opportunistic priests/rabbis/imams.

208 JeremyR  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:30:13am

re: #196 EIDE_Interface

I can't believe in a god that would allow the Holocaust to happen.

Would you rather cower before a GOD who is controling and strikes men dead for merely thinking an impure thought? GOD gave us free will. Bad things happen as a result. GOD is also JUST. in the end the bad get their just reward.

209 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:30:23am

re: #181 Killian Bundy

They have to do something ASAP.

/this is a much bigger and more systemic problem that the Federal Reserve and Treasury can staunch without help, the consequences are already manifesting themselves

Killian, one thing I have learned over a long lifetime of crisis and disasters - societal, medical and personal - is that sometimes when everyone is running around like chickens with no heads screaming that the sky if falling and something MUST be done right this minute, the very best thing to do is to step back and breathe.

Frankly, the more that people scream that nobody understands and the sky if falling and some bill, any bill at any price, must be passed this very instant, the more convinced I become that this "crisis" is really just a manufactured event intending to stampede the public.

I repeat: it was predicted right here on these boards about 2.5 months ago by a fellow lizard that there would be a huge bank failure of at least one of the largest banks in the country (he specified top 4) on or around October 1. If he knew about it, then why the hell didn't the Feds know about it, and why was nothing put into the works 2.5 months ago?

210 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:31:19am

re: #198 Colonel Panik

When a gajillion screaming Indonesian jihadis invade


Indo is like, North Aus right?

211 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:31:30am

re: #181 Killian Bundy

They have to do something ASAP.

/this is a much bigger and more systemic problem that the Federal Reserve and Treasury can staunch without help, the consequences are already manifesting themselves

You are right, but...

The harder things fall, the more discussion there will be about this, and it will trace back to the Dems' fecklessness regarding the health of our Republic. Nancy and Dingy Harry can scream all they want, but the truth will out: the dominoes were lined up under the Dems' watch. If anything, the louder they scream, the more people will wonder about that famous quote from Shakespeare: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Want proof? The wire from al-AP is already carrying the spin to cover the Dems' collective ass.

You can see that as "cutting off my nose to spite my face," or as "it's an ill wind that blows nobody good." Sadly, they both appear correct to me.

212 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:31:30am

re: #197 capitalist piglet

There's a part two? Okay...I'll go find it. (I'm gonna have nightmares, granny.)

Better now than later. There is still time now.

213 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:31:31am

re: #182 redc1c4

more informed and less alone, maybe. better? that depends.....


No! This place is very uplifting,It's like you know you not alone in your thoughts.Real people,not news people,or raidio people,but just everyday Americans,feeling the way you do about lots of subjects.Your voices make me feel stronger.

214 JeremyR  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:31:46am

re: #206 Moe Katz

However, the claim that he was a bullfrog is disputed by scholars.

Never heard me sing have you? (neither has anyone else though.)

215 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:32:39am

re: #190 JeremyR

Funny? its a riot.
As for Mccains stance on Amnesty, he realizes how difficult it will be to run them all out as long as businesses are willing to turn a blind eye. He wanted to fix the problem at the source, the people who hire and take advantage of them.
He had reasons, I just don't particularly agree with letting them stay.


Slowly but surely

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

216 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:33:57am

re: #207 EIDE_Interface

Well this will blow your mind, then. I believe in parallel universes, string theory and that aliens have visited our planet, except it's just for a family reunion.

217 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:34:09am

re: #207 EIDE_Interface

I don't believe in any supernatural beings to begin with. If you study history, you'd know why humans came up with supernatural beings, because they didn't understand the forces of nature. Then later, some people cynically used their own people's superstitions to form priesthoods and so on. That's how organized religion came into being. I don't doubt that there are many true believers - but their superstitions are preyed upon by opportunistic priests/rabbis/imams.

so, would you describe yourself as an atheist?

/just curious

218 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:35:10am

re: #216 Mel Lono

Well this will blow your mind, then. I believe in parallel universes, string theory and that aliens have visited our planet, except it's just for a family reunion.

You believe in those things without any proof. String theory in particular has not a single shred of rock solid evidence to support it. In fact it's debatable to even call it a theory. I only believe in those things that are provable, graspable. Rock solid.

219 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:35:32am

re: #217 redc1c4

so, would you describe yourself as an atheist?

/just curious

I already stated so earlier, no?

220 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:35:46am

re: #213 Oldasdirt

No! This place is very uplifting,It's like you know you not alone in your thoughts.Real people,not news people,or raidio people,but just everyday Americans,feeling the way you do about lots of subjects.Your voices make me feel stronger.

Yes- in that regard we are very much a support to one another. Still doesn't make us a clinic for the truly depressed.

But I still don't know if that's what's going on here. I feel it's almost as though the support we DO offer each other here is being sabotaged with the daily barrage of pessimism.

221 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:35:49am

re: #208 JeremyR

Would you rather cower before a GOD who is controling and strikes men dead for merely thinking an impure thought? GOD gave us free will. Bad things happen as a result. GOD is also JUST. in the end the bad get their just reward.

inshallah...............

/ %-)

222 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:37:19am

re: #219 EIDE_Interface

I already stated so earlier, no?

sorry, but i usually scroll past your posts.

you realize, of course, that atheism is just another belief construct, and no different from any other religious belief, right?

223 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:37:32am

re: #218 EIDE_Interface

You believe in those things without any proof. String theory in particular has not a single shred of rock solid evidence to support it. In fact it's debatable to even call it a theory. I only believe in those things that are provable, graspable. Rock solid.

That is because you lack faith.

224 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:37:44am

re: #217 redc1c4

so, would you describe yourself as an atheist?

/just curious

Of course he wouldn't. He did not say "There is no god" - which is the definition of atheism. He said "I cannot believe in a God that would allow the Holocaust to happen." He acknowledges the existence of God. The failure is in his understanding and discernment.

225 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:37:59am

re: #204 x-wing

Hey if you're willing to take one for the team, you have my respect :>}

and my MOPP suit.

%-)

226 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:38:29am

re: #218 EIDE_Interface

You believe in those things without any proof. String theory in particular has not a single shred of rock solid evidence to support it. In fact it's debatable to even call it a theory. I only believe in those things that are provable, graspable. Rock solid.

Can you grasp $700,000,000,000?

227 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:38:38am

The missus sez I need to go to bed. 'Night lizards.

228 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:39:01am

re: #227 Moe Katz

Bye, Moe!

229 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:39:17am

re: #222 redc1c4

sorry, but i usually scroll past your posts.

you realize, of course, that atheism is just another belief construct, and no different from any other religious belief, right?

Then I'm probably agnostic. However atheists would call that position a copout, as agnosticism leaves an out to believe in a god. But that's not my position. I am open to any possibilities out there, but it's a waste of time to hope for that.

230 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:39:20am

re: #210 Mel Lono

Indo is like, North Aus right?

Yes, they are just to the north of Australia. At least the last time I looked at a map. Things might have shifted a bit because of the 9.0 earthquake.

The Aussies have been a bit leery of Indonesia since the end of WWII. A burgeoning population, too much communist inspired political turmoil in the 1960's, and now Islamic militancy. When Indonesia invaded East Timor in the late 1970's I've heard the Aussie military went on full alert. That was a major bone of contention between Indonesia and Australia as the Timorese had helped an Aussie army unit escape encirclement by the Japanese in WWII.

IIRC, one of Bin Ladin's complaints against us infidels was the Aussie peacekeeping forces in East Timor in the late 90's who helped push the Indonesians out.

231 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:39:29am

re: #204 x-wing

Hey if you're willing to take one for the team, you have my respect :>}

As I said, if she's cute enough...

232 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:40:13am

re: #226 victor_yugo

Can you grasp $700,000,000,000?

Which is why I oppose the bailout. Unfortunately it seems some LGFers are in favor of it.

233 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:40:15am

re: #210 Mel Lono

Indo is like, North Aus right?

north west, mostly.... and they're not getting anywhere as long as Oz has a Navy & AF and the will to use them.

234 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:40:16am

re: #220 Sharmuta

But I still don't know if that's what's going on here. I feel it's almost as though the support we DO offer each other here is being sabotaged with the daily barrage of pessimism.

I have noticed that myself.

235 DesertSage  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:41:10am

Aren't we supposed to get fruit cups or something?

236 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:41:41am

re: #218 EIDE_Interface

You believe in those things without any proof. String theory in particular has not a single shred of rock solid evidence to support it. In fact it's debatable to even call it a theory. I only believe in those things that are provable, graspable. Rock solid.


GAZE GAZE GAZE

237 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:42:33am

New article from Michael J. Totten:

The War Won't End in Afghanistan

238 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:42:39am

Maybe there is a nihilistic streak in me that causes me to go on these pessimistic rampages all over the blogosphere, not just here. I know it's evil, but I did it anyways.

239 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:42:50am

re: #230 Colonel Panik

Yes, they are just to the north of Australia. At least the last time I looked at a map. Things might have shifted a bit because of the 9.0 earthquake.

The Aussies have been a bit leery of Indonesia since the end of WWII. A burgeoning population, too much communist inspired political turmoil in the 1960's, and now Islamic militancy. When Indonesia invaded East Timor in the late 1970's I've heard the Aussie military went on full alert. That was a major bone of contention between Indonesia and Australia as the Timorese had helped an Aussie army unit escape encirclement by the Japanese in WWII.

IIRC, one of Bin Ladin's complaints against us infidels was the Aussie peacekeeping forces in East Timor in the late 90's who helped push the Indonesians out.

Now correct me if I am wrong here, but didn't Barrak Hussein Obama's communist mother live in Indonesia - along with Barry - in the 60s. Interesting.

240 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:42:58am

re: #235 DesertSage

5 am Eastern, 2 Pacific.

241 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:43:00am

re: #218 EIDE_Interface

You believe in those things without any proof. String theory in particular has not a single shred of rock solid evidence to support it. In fact it's debatable to even call it a theory. I only believe in those things that are provable, graspable. Rock solid.

and yet, so many of your posts here are purest unprovable bullshit....

it's enough to make a man religious.

/or drink! %-)

242 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:43:30am
I know it's evil, but I did it anyways.

The definition of trolling.

243 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:43:58am

re: #240 Sharmuta

5 am Eastern, 2 Pacific.

modifications, however, can happen at anytime..... %-)

/sample?

244 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:44:00am

re: #222 redc1c4

sorry, but i usually scroll past your posts.

you realize, of course, that atheism is just another belief construct, and no different from any other religious belief, right?

:whack:

245 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:44:04am
246 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:44:11am

re: #235 DesertSage

Aren't we supposed to get fruit cups or something?

Not until Littleoldlady shows up at 5 am.

247 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:44:39am

re: #216 Mel Lono

except it's just for a family reunion.

WHO TOLD YOU?!

248 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:44:40am

re: #243 redc1c4

LOL!

249 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:45:04am

re: #171 runrabbitrun

One more linky before beddy-bye....

Don't know if this has been posted before, but a doomsday fantasy formulation of Melanie Phillip's earlier lament, from the brilliantly wicked David Kahane: The Screw Alinsky Letters: Wormwood redux.

Good god. That's almost as depressing as an EIDE_Interface post!

250 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:45:27am

re: #238 EIDE_Interface

Maybe there is a nihilistic streak in me that causes me to go on these pessimistic rampages all over the blogosphere, not just here. I know it's evil, but I did it anyways.

your doctor can help you.

if you can't afford the meds, cancel your ISP and divert the funds: then everyone wins.

251 DesertSage  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:46:04am

re: #240 Sharmuta

5 am Eastern, 2 Pacific.

Damn...I won't be able to make it.

Obama scares the living crap out of me!
I truly believe that this man is dangerous.

252 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:46:42am

re: #250 redc1c4

your doctor can help you.

if you can't afford the meds, cancel your ISP and divert the funds: then everyone wins.

Unfortunately, anti-depressants these days are running $200 and up for a month's supply. Your average ISP bill might cover part of a week.

253 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:46:48am

re: #211 victor_yugo

You are right, but...

The harder things fall, the more discussion there will be about this, and it will trace back to the Dems' fecklessness regarding the health of our Republic.

3000 2220 points on the DOW is way too high a price to pay for more discussion about that.

/but that's just me

254 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:47:02am

Sneaks some early fruitcup to Sage...

255 JeremyR  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:47:17am

re: #246 galloping granny

Not until Littleoldlady shows up at 5 am.

re: #247 littleoldlady

5 AM already? Good night all, I gotta be up by 6:30.

256 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:47:20am
257 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:47:33am

re: #251 DesertSage

Damn...I won't be able to make it.

Obama scares the living crap out of me!
I truly believe that this man is dangerous.

You and me both. The single most dangerous empty suit I've seen in my lifetime. Huge potential for destruction and evil.

258 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:47:37am

re: #239 galloping granny

Now correct me if I am wrong here, but didn't Barrak Hussein Obama's communist mother live in Indonesia - along with Barry - in the 60s. Interesting.

Yes, her second husband was an Indonesian who was a little bit leftist, a little bit Muslim...

Remember the little spat Barry got into with (regrettably now former) Aussie Prime Minister John Howard?

259 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:48:16am

With the way the economy is going, nobody will be able to afford medications of any kind.

260 DesertSage  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:48:21am

Yay....fruitcup!

:') Thanks littleoldlady

261 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:48:35am

I'm thinking of installing one next year if Obamination gets elected ! :)

262 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:50:02am

re: #253 Killian Bundy

3000 2220 points on the DOW is way too high a price to pay for more discussion about that.

/but that's just me

What 2200 points? It was down about 700 at close last night. Didn't even make the top ten as far as percentage of total goes. BTW, I watched the ticker. The market was actually going up hand over fist until Pelosi and company went on TV after the vote and started yapping.

Why are you borrowing trouble that has not yet occurred?

263 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:50:57am

re: #239 galloping granny

I distinctly remember the 0ne taking cheap shots at Howard when he was PM...something along the lines of Autralia not sending enough troops to the Iraqi war that 0bama was against anyway.

Unfortunately, the 0ne and Kevin Rudd would get along like two peas in a pod.

264 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:51:57am

re: #244 x-wing

:whack:

good thing i had my Kevlar on.....

i see that truth is as unpopular here as anywhere.

265 DesertSage  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:52:02am

If the Obamatons can threaten the first amendment this much before the election, how long before he completely abolishes it if he gets elected?

Are we looking at a Wilsonian type police state....or something worse?

266 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:52:15am

re: #259 EIDE_Interface

With the way the economy is going, nobody will be able to afford medications of any kind.

Sure they will. Note I did not mention the cost to manufacture that average antidepressant. Well under $5 or so. We pay a tremendous markup here in the US to the drug companies - far and away more than anyone else in the world. Easily double, sometimes far more than that.

If the drug companies can't sell their drugs at $200 a month, they can sell it for $20 like they do in Canada and still make money.

267 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:52:29am

re: #265 DesertSage

If the Obamatons can threaten the first amendment this much before the election, how long before he completely abolishes it if he gets elected?

Are we looking at a Wilsonian type police state....or something worse?

Worse.

268 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:52:52am

re: #245 Sharmuta

SABATOGE

John Cale did a much better song by the same name, but i couldn't find a link.

269 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:53:13am

re: #247 littleoldlady

WHO TOLD YOU?!

I like to think I'm an old soul. No proof yet though.

270 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:53:36am

re: #258 Colonel Panik

Yes, her second husband was an Indonesian who was a little bit leftist, a little bit Muslim...

Remember the little spat Barry got into with (regrettably now former) Aussie Prime Minister John Howard?

No, that one has somehow slipped under my radar.

271 Colonel Panik  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:53:39am

re: #259 EIDE_Interface

With the way the economy is going, nobody will be able to afford medications of any kind.

Weeuns 'll still be able to pick bitteroot and sassafras.

272 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:53:49am

re: #266 galloping granny

Sure they will. Note I did not mention the cost to manufacture that average antidepressant. Well under $5 or so. We pay a tremendous markup here in the US to the drug companies - far and away more than anyone else in the world. Easily double, sometimes far more than that.

If the drug companies can't sell their drugs at $200 a month, they can sell it for $20 like they do in Canada and still make money.

Anti-depressants have horrible side effects from what I've heard. Besides only people with actual chemical imbalance should take those, not just people bummed about Obama.

273 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:53:59am

Okay, y'all, time for me to head elsewhere. G'nite.

274 Killian Bundy[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:54:04am
275 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:54:07am

I really want to leave LA should Obama get elected. I'm really scared the "First Year Test" theory is going to come true. Happened with Clinton and 1993 WTC, Bush and 9/11, and now Obama (hell, even McCain isn't immune to this) and 2009.

Shit.

276 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:55:05am

re: #252 galloping granny

Unfortunately, anti-depressants these days are running $200 and up for a month's supply. Your average ISP bill might cover part of a week.

it'd buy enough diphenhydramine to keep him asleep, or at least drowsy, and might even cover the chlorpromazine option instead... %-)

277 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:55:32am

re: #274 Killian Bundy

If you're not a moby, you might want to just OD or shoot yourself, up through the roof of your mouth.

/in any case, you're in the wrong place, seriously ask for help here or elsewhere

Wow that's pure class. Inciting someone to off themselves. A new high(low?).

278 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:56:10am

re: #264 redc1c4

good thing i had my Kevlar on.....

i see that truth is as unpopular here as anywhere.

I was directing that at EIDE for your slap at him.

/ I gave you a 10 on execution

279 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:56:46am

re: #239 galloping granny


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the British help the Malaysians put down a communist insurrection in Malay territory that was being fomented in part by Indonesia around the same time the 0ne's m0m was living there?

280 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:57:31am

re: #279 Fenway_Nation

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the British help the Malaysians put down a communist insurrection in Malay territory that was being fomented in part by Indonesia around the same time the 0ne's m0m was living there?

That isn't jogging any memories with me. Let me consult the internet.

281 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:58:40am

re: #254 littleoldlady

Sneaks some early fruitcup to Sage. with ealry modifications..

fixed that for ya!

282 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:59:35am

re: #278 x-wing

I was directing that at EIDE for your slap at him.

/ I gave you a 10 on execution

then the Kevlar was good protection for the splatter.... %-)

283 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:00:14am

re: #277 EIDE_Interface

Wow that's pure class. Inciting someone to off themselves. A new high(low?).


O.K. drama queen, give it a rest, you're really starting to sound like Edgar now.

/go a pair for shits sake

284 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:00:39am

re: #262 galloping granny

Why are you borrowing trouble that has not yet occurred?

I watch level II quotes.

The market went down ~100 points in the ten minutes after the closing bell, while they processed the avalanche of "at close" sell orders.

/I don't need to borrow that, it happened and it was disturbing

285 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:01:11am

re: #280 galloping granny

That isn't jogging any memories with me. Let me consult the internet.

I'm not seeing a reference to that here, though Malaysia was part of the British empire until the late 50s.

[Link: www.kiat.net...]

286 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:01:38am

re: #275 TheMatrix31

I really want to leave LA should Obama get elected. I'm really scared the "First Year Test" theory is going to come true. Happened with Clinton and 1993 WTC, Bush and 9/11, and now Obama (hell, even McCain isn't immune to this) and 2009.

Shit.

as long as the Valley isn't the target, we're good.

gotta talk to the boss about the house budget.....

too bad razor wire is $110/bundle.

287 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:02:19am

re: #286 redc1c4

as long as the Valley isn't the target, we're good.

gotta talk to the boss about the house budget.....

too bad razor wire is $110/bundle.

Hey, a nuke and favorable wind conditions, and we'll be screwed! Where in the Valley are you?

288 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:02:25am

re: #281 redc1c4

fixed that for ya!

SPELLCHECK! ;-)

'Morning, red.

289 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:02:37am

re: #284 Killian Bundy

I watch level II quotes.

The market went down ~100 points in the ten minutes after the closing bell, while they processed the avalanche of "at close" sell orders.

/I don't need to borrow that, it happened and it was disturbing

The 700 accounted for that. There is one whole hell of a lot of difference between 100 points after the bell and a 450% inflation of the figure. You are hysterical and manufacturing crisis.

290 Ledger1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:03:15am

re: #67 Pawn of the Oppressor

So how is this financial madness going to affect me, the little guy? --Pawn of the Oppressor

I think it provides you with a buying opportunity if you have an Iron Stomach.

As a general rule you should always buy in on weakness and sell on strength (or buy low and sell high).

There are plenty of Blue Chip stocks that are selling at low prices. There are some good real estate deals if you look hard enough.

In the 1929 stock market crash Blue chip stocks were selling at about 10 cents on the dollar and after a few years returned to their highs. Sure some took longer but they increased nicely.

On a similar note, I have to laugh at democrat Pelosi and her stupid partisan comments:

"When President Bush took office, he inherited President Clinton's surpluses {cough cough}... And with his reckless economic policies within two years, he had turned that around ... and now eight years later the foundation of that fiscal irresponsibility…has taken us to where we are today…”

I can just hear Arnold Schwarzenegger's rebuttal:

"...With Grey Davis’ and Nancy Pelosi’s reckless economic policies, over-regulation and fiscal irresponsibility the Great State of California when from a surplus to sea of red (ink) that would make Osama Bin Laden proud..."

"Quite frankly, Grey Davis and Nancy Pelosi are well versed in Ponzi schemes and how to sell them to the public."

"Nancy Pelosi is a fraud and danger to the public."

291 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:04:06am

re: #288 littleoldlady

SPELLCHECK! ;-)

'Morning, red.

cheers! want some sauvignon blanc for your coffee?

292 tommoon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:04:50am

DesertSage,

You have that desert. You can grow stuff and live. If Obama is elected I'm stuck in Hawaii. I took one of the last planes out of Saigon, I might have to do it out of Honolulu.

293 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:06:51am

re: #156 redc1c4

dude: i'm a Usenet veteran of the great flame wars of olde, and you're just a sad lame troll. your stench is detectable upwind and you fool only those souls given to kindness.

you have dehumanized yourself, and sympathy is in the dictionary, right between "shit" & "syphilis", which is what it's worth and all you'll get here.

you should ask for the stick as a mercy in your hour of need.

/but you don't have the cojones for that, do you?

ahhh usenet remember those days full of pron and warez

294 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:07:23am

re: #293 JimmyTheClaw

ahhh usenet remember those days full of pron and warez

Yup - with great fondness.

295 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:08:12am

re: #292 tommoon

let's see if I get this...
ZerObama gets elected and the NVA will come sweeping in?
Niihau first? or moving north from Kona?

296 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:08:13am

re: #289 galloping granny

The 700 accounted for that. There is one whole hell of a lot of difference between 100 points after the bell and a 450% inflation of the figure. You are hysterical and manufacturing crisis.

At the closing bell, the DOW wasn't down 700, it was closer to 650.

Hysterical? I have the [expletive deleted] interactive chart!

/and I can read

297 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:08:51am

re: #291 redc1c4

No thanks.

/blech. bad mix.
//got 'buca?

298 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:09:37am

re: #294 galloping granny

Yup - with great fondness.

remember when 28.8 was screaming access?

299 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:10:07am

re: #296 Killian Bundy

At the closing bell, the DOW wasn't down 700, it was closer to 650.

Hysterical? I have the [expletive deleted] interactive chart!

/and I can read

Yes, and the final number was 700 someodd as reported by Fox. Big number but it did not even make the top ten of biggest market losses on a percentage basis.

You are hysterical.

300 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:11:25am

re: #298 redc1c4

remember when 28.8 was screaming access?

Rolling on the floor! I remember when you practically couldn't get access unless you were associated with a college or university.

301 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:11:41am

re: #297 littleoldlady

No thanks.

/blech. bad mix.
//got 'buca?

got Khileua or what ever here somewhere...... or maybe brandy?

and some champagne with your breakfast fruit, before the eggs benedict, ok?

302 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:11:54am

re: #239 galloping granny

Now correct me if I am wrong here, but didn't Barrak Hussein Obama's communist mother live in Indonesia - along with Barry - in the 60s. Interesting.

Actually the Indonesian communists were mostly Chinese ethnically although Sukarno was a 'tarred in the wool' socialist of the first water too! The Indonesians butchered 100,000 Indonesian Chinese communists mostly for ethnic reasons and just plain envy. Suharto took over and pretty much ripped off the nation to the tune of billions. In Borneo the Aussies Brits Kiwis and Malaysians fought the Indonesians for years in the war of 'Confrontation', after the Indons attempted to invade Malaysia tactically to cause trouble. Pretty soon the war shifted from the Malaysian States in Northern Borneo into Indonesian owned central and Southern Borneo. The Kiwi Brit and Aussie SAS especially used to lay in ambush and cut the Indons to pieces as they left their staging camps deep inside Indonesia. After a while the Indons got sick of dying and called quits. Then they invaded Timor and we started it all over again. We used to exercise in Northern Australia with our nominal enemy the .... 'Masourians' but everyone knew that we were meaning the Indonesians. For low intensity warefare exerciuses we used the ... Kamorians... but again we and the Indonesians knew that it was the Indonesians who were seen as the enemy. Many a time I have had to defens the Rum Jungle uranium mines and transport hubs from Kamorian Raider Battalions! hehehe It was sometimes funny when we had Indonesian observers at the exercises. They thought that it was a joke but they new who we were preparing for!
Now the current Indon regime has let the Islamist cat out of the bag and there is going to be hell to pay. TNI (the Indon army0 is pretty lame and is only capable of killing civilians and imposing internal order. KOMPASS however the Indon Special Forces are quite capable and could cause some trouble. Currently the Indonesian forces can't sustain more than a reinforced Brigade group in Expeditionary mode. They would be encouraged to wander deep into Northern Australia where the SAS and NORFORCE would kill off anyone who managed not to die of thirst, hunger or crocodiles! Meanwhile anything Indonesian floating in the Timor sea would end up forming yet another reef as the RAAF and RAN dominate that strip of water. The main threat to Australia is from within and the radicalized Muslim minority in the southeastern cities.

303 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:12:00am

Texas Secession is neither left nor right politically. We accept members of many political persuasions: pro-life, pro-choice, pro-gun, environmentalist, pro-immigration, anti-immigration, anti-war, pro-tax funded education, anti-tax funded education, pro-war on drugs, pro-drug freedom, etc. We do have one common issue: Texas Independence! Does Texas have the resources to be in independent nation? Texas has 23,507,783 people; 11% larger than Australia. 79% of the nations have populations smaller than Texas. Texas GDP is $1,065,891,000,000; 32% larger than Australia. 93% of the nations have a GDP smaller than Texas.
This group is starting to get some traction.With this bailout,and the possibility of Obama becomming president im affraid this little movement could take off.
Now by no means am i for this,but i got a ton of neighbors talking this up.Kinda scary.Now im a Texan,but im an American first. And Texas is not the only state pondering this.
If O wins,do you guys think a thing like this could going?

304 tommoon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:12:16am

IslandLibertarian

His policy will first disable the military and that will destroy what is now a slow Hawaii economy. But, first we will build a 4 billon dollar rail system. I'll take a flight on MAC out of Hickam, easier than Saigon and probalby no NVA.

305 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:12:49am
The Dow closed Monday down 777 points, the largest point loss in a single day.


I'm so glad it didn't plunge 666 points,
the media would have blamed this crisis on our Christian superstitions.
Idiots-

I need some fruitcup with bourbon.

my AIG stock lost 100 percent.

2.50 -0.65 (-20.63%) Sep 29 4:11pm ET
Open: 3.35
High: 3.52
Low: 2.50

306 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:13:46am

re: #300 galloping granny

Rolling on the floor! I remember when you practically couldn't get access unless you were associated with a college or university.

first time i had any computer experience was at CSULB where a friend of mine was in the program and a member of the club..... late 70's.
dummy me didn't grasp the importance then.

307 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:13:53am

re: #299 galloping granny

Yes, and the final number was 700 someodd as reported by Fox. Big number but it did not even make the top ten of biggest market losses on a percentage basis.

You are hysterical.

And the final number was -777.68 as reported by the NYSE, they're called facts.

/and you have absolutely no idea what you're spouting off about

308 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:14:22am

Bloody typos. I can spell .... really i can! hehehe

309 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:14:33am

re: #296 Killian Bundy

At the closing bell, the DOW wasn't down 700, it was closer to 650.

Hysterical? I have the [expletive deleted] interactive chart!

/and I can read


I don't know alot about this , but the bill congress was voting on 700 billion to take care of this problem.
The fed pumped 630 billion into the banks yesterday. Are you saying that 70 more billion would've solved this?

I'm not being an ass, just asking


[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

310 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:14:41am

re: #301 redc1c4

Kahlua would work in a pinch.

/hope you're stocking up on the drugs we'll need...

311 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:15:09am

re: #277 EIDE_Interface

Did I, or Did I not just slit your flabby small things on a previous post pages ago ya small thingy wanker? If ya missed it ..."SAY HELO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!" THUD, THUD, THUD!

312 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:15:38am

re: #303 Oldasdirt

Texas Secession is neither left nor right politically. We accept members of many political persuasions: pro-life, pro-choice, pro-gun, environmentalist, pro-immigration, anti-immigration, anti-war, pro-tax funded education, anti-tax funded education, pro-war on drugs, pro-drug freedom, etc. We do have one common issue: Texas Independence! Does Texas have the resources to be in independent nation? Texas has 23,507,783 people; 11% larger than Australia. 79% of the nations have populations smaller than Texas. Texas GDP is $1,065,891,000,000; 32% larger than Australia. 93% of the nations have a GDP smaller than Texas.
This group is starting to get some traction.With this bailout,and the possibility of Obama becomming president im affraid this little movement could take off.
Now by no means am i for this,but i got a ton of neighbors talking this up.Kinda scary.Now im a Texan,but im an American first. And Texas is not the only state pondering this.
If O wins,do you guys think a thing like this could going?



If Obama wins we will see the end of the United States of America.

313 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:16:19am

re: #302 Aussie Infidel

what he said....

314 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:17:05am

re: #298 redc1c4

remember when 28.8 was screaming access?

my 486 sx25 with a 14.4 screamed much better than a commodore with the superfast 300 baud modem

315 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:19:56am

re: #312 galloping granny


If Obama wins we will see the end of the United States of America.

the butt hole is up in all their stupid polls.

/wait until the women and racists vote kicks in.

316 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:20:05am

re: #314 JimmyTheClaw

my 486 sx25 with a 14.4 screamed much better than a commodore with the superfast 300 baud modem

My old copy of WordPerfect fit on a 1MB floppy with plenty or room left for the special science & math character set and a 100 page thesis. Today's Word takes up an entire Gig and doesn't have a science/math character set.

317 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:20:18am

re: #306 redc1c4

first time i had any computer experience was at CSULB where a friend of mine was in the program and a member of the club..... late 70's.
dummy me didn't grasp the importance then.

i went to a school run by lehigh university we had access to the computers through a (push the phone in the cups) modem no monitor just this real wide green and white paper printout had lots of fun playing hunt the wump wump

318 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:20:20am

re: #303 Oldasdirt

Texas Secession is neither left nor right politically. We accept members of many political persuasions: pro-life, pro-choice, pro-gun, environmentalist, pro-immigration, anti-immigration, anti-war, pro-tax funded education, anti-tax funded education, pro-war on drugs, pro-drug freedom, etc. We do have one common issue: Texas Independence! Does Texas have the resources to be in independent nation? Texas has 23,507,783 people; 11% larger than Australia. 79% of the nations have populations smaller than Texas. Texas GDP is $1,065,891,000,000; 32% larger than Australia. 93% of the nations have a GDP smaller than Texas.
This group is starting to get some traction.With this bailout,and the possibility of Obama becomming president im affraid this little movement could take off.
Now by no means am i for this,but i got a ton of neighbors talking this up.Kinda scary.Now im a Texan,but im an American first. And Texas is not the only state pondering this.
If O wins,do you guys think a thing like this could going?

got room for two more?

(preferably where the weather is only bad, not totally sucky. %-)

319 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:20:47am

re: #309 x-wing

I don't know alot about this , but the bill congress was voting on 700 billion to take care of this problem.
The fed pumped 630 billion into the banks yesterday. Are you saying that 70 more billion would've solved this?

I'm not being an ass, just asking

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

These "toxic" mortgages derivatives have to see sunshine.

/no institution will lend to another institution if they can't effectively Gage the creditworthiness of the potential borrower, that's exactly where we're all at today

320 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:22:40am

re: #312 galloping granny

Merlot, not working. Can I chew on the couch? If not, how about the front bumper of the Volvo across the street? I pee'd on the tires of the BMW down the block but I didn't feel fulfilled.....this is getting desperate...

321 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:22:53am

re: #303 Oldasdirt

Nice to know us clingy and bitter Pennsylvanians will have somewhere to go...

322 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:24:26am

re: #318 redc1c4

got room for two more?

(preferably where the weather is only bad, not totally sucky. %-)

Sure we do,but we may have to liberate Houston if we become a republic.
So bring guns,and ammo.

323 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:25:03am

re: #315 ibmkeyboard

the butt hole is up in all their stupid polls.

/wait until the women and racists vote kicks in.

I am serious when I tell you that I believe those polls are being rigged to an almost unbelievable degree. A decent pollster can make a poll say pretty much anything they want it to say. There is an ad online that says "Tell us who you are voting for. Tell us your zip code. Collect your gas card." That is NOT a poll that is constructed to give a real answer. One of the pollsters admitted on Fox a few days back that his poll is spotting Obama 6 or 8 points because of his blackness. So, if his real number is 42, they call it as 50 because he is black. And many of the polls are deliberately stacking the polls with extra democrats and calling members of code pink independents.

324 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:25:10am

re: #308 Aussie Infidel

Ah

Walking on fire?

325 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:26:01am

re: #320 nightwatch

Merlot, not working. Can I chew on the couch? If not, how about the front bumper of the Volvo across the street? I pee'd on the tires of the BMW down the block but I didn't feel fulfilled.....this is getting desperate...

Killian should give you something to chew on.

326 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:26:13am

re: #321 littleoldlady

Nice to know us clingy and bitter Pennsylvanians will have somewhere to go...

Ah come on, we can push Philly into the Atlantic, they just talk tough.

327 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:26:22am

re: #313 redc1c4

I spend a bit of time up in Indonesia now. Mostly on business. There are Australian Ministries who still have their heads up their arses in regard to Indonesia. Recently an Indonesian business colleague of mine wanted to 'shop' a group of Islamist terrorists in training at Lombok. I tried the Australian Federal Police and other security agencies and all I got was .... are you from the press? Go away this is sensitive and we don't want to upset the Indonesians at this time. Pathetic! There was also a group of 5 Australian pedophiles operating out of Bali preying in Indonesian youngsters. They were in it hand and glove with the some local Indonesian cops and justice ministries. Again the Aussie cops refused to even accept the freely offered information. Pathetic! I'm not into conspiracy theories but sometimes one has to ask why things are the way they are!

328 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:26:40am

re: #323 galloping granny

Maybe there's an upside? It'll scare enough people to get out and vote, and let the Leftists be complacent?

329 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:26:56am

re: #319 Killian Bundy

Gage

/gauge

330 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:27:30am

re: #326 x-wing

Ah come on, we can push Philly into the Atlantic, they just talk tough.

You kinda have to get through New Jersey first.

/lots of pine trees in the way...

331 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:28:16am

re: #322 Oldasdirt

Sure we do,but we may have to liberate Houston if we become a republic.
So bring guns,and ammo.

i just figgered that was a given..... we're even willing to use them if necessary, if that's a plus.

332 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:28:30am

re: #328 littleoldlady

Maybe there's an upside? It'll scare enough people to get out and vote, and let the Leftists be complacent?

I'm hoping that will be the case. The intent of course is to convince all those who just have to vote for the winner that Obama is going to be the winner.

333 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:29:01am

re: #330 littleoldlady

You kinda have to get through New Jersey first.

/lots of pine trees in the way...

them ain't pine trees.... they're sapplings.

/west coast

334 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:29:24am

Seeking......Killian.....vector, targeting...LOCK

335 Egfrow  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:29:35am

The first rule to the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy is "Don't Panic".

336 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:29:37am

re: #323 galloping granny
Im thinking the poles are rigged,,and you watch.It's gonna backfire on the dumb Dems.It will scare more conservitives into the voteing booth.
I hope,OMG I hope.

337 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:31:06am

re: #323 galloping granny

I am serious when I tell you that I believe those polls are being rigged to an almost unbelievable degree. A decent pollster can make a poll say pretty much anything they want it to say. There is an ad online that says "Tell us who you are voting for. Tell us your zip code. Collect your gas card." That is NOT a poll that is constructed to give a real answer. One of the pollsters admitted on Fox a few days back that his poll is spotting Obama 6 or 8 points because of his blackness. So, if his real number is 42, they call it as 50 because he is black. And many of the polls are deliberately stacking the polls with extra democrats and calling members of code pink independents.

i talked to a pollster the other day it was heavily skewed in obamas favor i did mention on health care question i couldnt afford insurance for my cats since one died the day before

338 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:31:06am

re: #334 nightwatch

Seeking......Killian.....vector, targeting...LOCK

/evasive action, deploying countermeasures

339 Egfrow  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:31:27am

re: #336 Oldasdirt

Im thinking the poles are rigged,,and you watch.It's gonna backfire on the dumb Dems.It will scare more conservitives into the voteing booth.
I hope,OMG I hope.

Nah, Those polls are not manipulated at all. That's just you being paranoid. We have no reason to doubt the Liberal Pollsters /src.

340 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:31:38am

re: #329 Killian Bundy


TARGET LOCK (granny said so)

341 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:32:07am

re: #330 littleoldlady

You kinda have to get through New Jersey first.

/lots of pine trees in the way...


Getting a little dirty pushing through Joysey wouldn't be to bad. I really like this state.

And Joysey doesn't want them, why do you think they come over in buses to vote in our elections.

342 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:32:30am

re: #331 redc1c4

i just figgered that was a given..... we're even willing to use them if necessary, if that's a plus.


Im a firm beliver in GUN CONTROL.Everyone should own one,and know how to control it.

343 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:33:22am

re: #323 galloping granny

I am serious when I tell you that I believe those polls are being rigged to an almost unbelievable degree.


Drudge reported McCain won the debate 68-30 over Bama.

MSM reported Obamma won-
Well that went over like a Chinese lead balloon.

So the MSM says it was a tie.- Wrong-

Now they say no one won.

Election day I think we are in for a big McCain surprise.

344 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:33:26am

re: #336 Oldasdirt

In Australia it's compulsory to register to vote and it's also COMPULSORY to cast a ballot. A $50 fine if you don't vote. As long as you enter a pooling booth you can write what you like on the voting paper. But vote you must. The only nation in the world i believe that enforces democracy that way! hehehe

345 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:33:32am

re: #337 JimmyTheClaw

i talked to a pollster the other day it was heavily skewed in obamas favor i did mention on health care question i couldnt afford insurance for my cats since one died the day before

Virtually anyone in medical research or pyschology can tell you how easy it is to stack the deck. We take entire classes in how to structure questionnaires so they will be fair and unbiased, which by the way is a fairly difficult task.

346 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:34:27am

re: #341 x-wing

The pine trees vote in our elections?

/I think I need more coffee...

347 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:34:52am

Polling = pooling. There typos will be the death of me! hehehe

348 Egfrow  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:35:09am

re: #336 Oldasdirt

Im thinking the poles are rigged,,and you watch.It's gonna backfire on the dumb Dems.It will scare more conservitives into the voteing booth.
I hope,OMG I hope.

And the Luntz focus group is really on the up and up also. Penn & Teller even think so

349 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:35:41am

re: #338 Killian Bundy


BRODO EYES SWEEP..LOCK BUNDY

350 tommoon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:35:43am

If you remember the last election. The polls had Kerry 10-12 points up into the last weeks of the election. Then they start to worry about their reputations, and get it in the right direction. These polls are designed to discourage conservatives.

351 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:35:57am

re: #335 Egfrow

The first rule to the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy is "Don't Panic".

Don't forget your towel. And the answer is 42.

352 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:36:46am

re: #350 tommoon

If you remember the last election. The polls had Kerry 10-12 points up into the last weeks of the election. Then they start to worry about their reputations, and get it in the right direction. These polls are designed to discourage conservatives.

Exactly.

353 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:37:11am

Well, Asia sucked but, so far, Europe ain't doing too bad.

/and, not real time, but U.S. futures are up, five hours out

354 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:37:44am

And I am no prophet,
but the only election I have ever missed calling was Carter-Ford.

/but I was young and stupid.


Obamama is going down.

355 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:38:24am

re: #351 Mel Lono


In the frame of a favorite comic o mine, "I like the cut of your jib!

356 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:38:45am

re: #339 Egfrow

Nah, Those polls are not manipulated at all. That's just you being paranoid. We have no reason to doubt the Liberal Pollsters /src.


Nope,not one reason.Not one.100s maybe,but not one.

357 Athos  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:38:56am

re: #343 ibmkeyboard

Election day I think we are in for a big McCain surprise.

I was thinking the same way until yesterday. With the MSM carrying the water of the left, the economy is going to count against McCain / Palin significantly.

Frankly, I don't think that Pelosi and company really wanted the bill to pass - but they also wanted to be able to blame the failure of the passage on the House Republicans.

What is happening in the economy is right out of the left's "we have to destroy it in order to gain the power we are entitled to in order to save it" mantra.....

358 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:39:49am

re: #327 Aussie Infidel

I spend a bit of time up in Indonesia now. Mostly on business. There are Australian Ministries who still have their heads up their arses in regard to Indonesia. Recently an Indonesian business colleague of mine wanted to 'shop' a group of Islamist terrorists in training at Lombok. I tried the Australian Federal Police and other security agencies and all I got was .... are you from the press? Go away this is sensitive and we don't want to upset the Indonesians at this time. Pathetic! There was also a group of 5 Australian pedophiles operating out of Bali preying in Indonesian youngsters. They were in it hand and glove with the some local Indonesian cops and justice ministries. Again the Aussie cops refused to even accept the freely offered information. Pathetic! I'm not into conspiracy theories but sometimes one has to ask why things are the way they are!

no worries mate. you're just not PC enough to get the big picture.... at least you have your secret weapon!

359 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:40:27am

re: #346 littleoldlady

The pine trees vote in our elections?

/I think I need more coffee...


Or maybe I need to hit the hay.

/wow it's late

360 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:40:59am

re: #353 Killian Bundy

and, not real time, but U.S. futures are up, five hours out

/it's vectoring lower but it's a good starting point, not quite +780 though

361 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:41:24am

re: #337 JimmyTheClaw

i talked to a pollster the other day it was heavily skewed in obamas favor i did mention on health care question i couldnt afford insurance for my cats since one died the day before

they don't even poll here......

/we're in the zero bag

362 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:42:16am

re: #355 nightwatch

In the frame of a favorite comic o mine, "I like the cut of your jib!

so long long as the widow-maker doesnt cut me down on the foresail, i'm just fine thanks.

363 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:42:33am

re: #354 ibmkeyboard

ibm! :-)

I'm having a hard time imagining that the same American public who got off their butts to call and email their Reps about the "bailout" would then turn around and vote for Socialism.

/but that's just me I guess...

364 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:43:19am

A very interesting speech from Qadafi regarding Obama - translated by Memri

365 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:43:48am

Folks,

If we tank, we all tank together!

UP THE REBALS!

Now how do the shells fit into this bastard anyway?

366 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:43:58am

re: #360 Killian Bundy

Killian, for cripes sake! You are young. Your money will come back someday!

/why don't you feel sorry for those of us close to retirement who won't be retiring?
//not that I had any illusions heretofore, or anything...

367 conservativeChick  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:44:40am

Is it just me or is anybody else sick of Debbie Schlussel constant complaining and bitching? My G-d, I can't even go on that women site anymore without hearing screeching in the back of my head. She coming off as more elitist to me everyday of what she thinks a true conservative is. I don't think she would of vote for Ronald Reagan if he were alive today. Then again that just my opinion.

368 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:45:14am

re: #344 Aussie Infidel

In Australia it's compulsory to register to vote and it's also COMPULSORY to cast a ballot. A $50 fine if you don't vote. As long as you enter a pooling booth you can write what you like on the voting paper. But vote you must. The only nation in the world i believe that enforces democracy that way! hehehe


Hell,in Chicago,they dig em out of the ground to go vote.
They done that once in Texas to.But now on Nov the 4th,we put all the graveyards on lockdown.

369 Egfrow  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:45:15am

That Penn & Teller link is very appropriate for this time. The Episode is about Numbers and Polls. It's worth a view.

370 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:45:24am

re: #349 nightwatch

BRODO EYES SWEEP..LOCK BUNDY

i have a lock, going Slammer!

Fox 3! Fox 3!

/me fires AMRAMM from BVR

371 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:45:57am

re: #362 Mel Lono

we of the faith, new to the trenches, yet ready to game..

372 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:46:23am

re: #357 Athos

I'm still confident because of a few things. We have a large number of PUMAs going for McCain- they will not vote for 0bama for any reason whatsoever. Also- when it comes to the undecideds I really don't think a big spending liberal is going to be able to carry the day when his opponent is calling for fiscal responsibility and reform from Washington. I think that's a message that will sell better because I think it's what Americans want.

Is it going to be tough? Yes.
Is the deck stacked against us? Yes.

But is this really that much worse than what they tried to do to Bush in 2004? We have to keep plugging away, and maybe we can learn a few things from our temporary allies, the PUMAs- they are not taking this shit lying down.

373 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:47:06am

re: #349 nightwatch

BRODO EYES SWEEP..LOCK BUNDY

/I suppose it all depends on what we're both flying and what friends and support we have although, I got to tell you, countermeasures/flares don't wonk and it's lever time for me, really not into high G maneuvers

374 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:47:06am

re: #367 conservativeChick

Is it just me or is anybody else sick of Debbie Schlussel constant complaining and bitching? My G-d, I can't even go on that women site anymore without hearing screeching in the back of my head. She coming off as more elitist to me everyday of what she thinks a true conservative is. I don't think she would of vote for Ronald Reagan if he were alive today. Then again that just my opinion.

then i'm glad i don't even know who she is......

are you forced there?

375 JustMyView  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:47:22am

re: #350 tommoon

If you remember the last election. The polls had Kerry 10-12 points up into the last weeks of the election. Then they start to worry about their reputations, and get it in the right direction. These polls are designed to discourage conservatives.

I hear this often, but, in fact, as this graph shows, Kerry and Bush were less than two points apart in early October, with Bush leading. That's pretty much how the election turned out. Note that the graph shows the average of polling results at that time.

376 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:48:55am

re: #357 Athos

I was thinking the same way until yesterday. With the MSM carrying the water of the left, the economy is going to count against McCain / Palin significantly.

Frankly, I don't think that Pelosi and company really wanted the bill to pass - but they also wanted to be able to blame the failure of the passage on the House Republicans.

What is happening in the economy is right out of the left's "we have to destroy it in order to gain the power we are entitled to in order to save it" mantra.....

It is over a month until the election. There is yet another October surprise in the immediate offing - one far more important to the United States than this market "meltdown.: The Russian nuclear navy is currently steaming into OUR hemisphere to hold "exercises" with Venezuela - who they have also just signed on to build a "nuclear power plant" for. The last time the Russian Navy came calling we had the Cuban Missile Crisis. And it overturns nearly 200 years of American foreign policy. Moreover, we cannot allow Venezuela - who just before this "crisis" had ordered the US Ambassador to leave (that is pretty close to a declaration of war) to become another Iran, this time on our doorstep.

Obama does not have a prayer in hell of handling that.

377 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:48:56am

re: #373 Killian Bundy

/I suppose it all depends on what we're both flying and what friends and support we have although, I got to tell you, countermeasures/flares don't wonk and it's lever time for me, really not into high G maneuvers

warthorg or die there, good buddy...... Circle the hawgs!

BNOE and you're golden %-)

378 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:49:03am

re: #363 littleoldlady

ibm! :-)

I'm having a hard time imagining that the same American public who got off their butts to call and email their Reps about the "bailout" would then turn around and vote for Socialism.

/but that's just me I guess...

Nancy Petroski cost millions of working folks their 401ks- savings with her stupid little speech.
She has even shut down her web site- I tried to write and call her a bitch.

/and she is a democrat.

Obamams ass is going down.

intelligent people/voters are pissed

379 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:50:01am

re: #363 littleoldlady

ibm! :-)

I'm having a hard time imagining that the same American public who got off their butts to call and email their Reps about the "bailout" would then turn around and vote for Socialism.

/but that's just me I guess...

Good point.

They had best all stay on their reps too.

380 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:51:20am

re: #358 redc1c4

She really is a great sheela isn't she mate!


Aussie ....Aussie... Aussie OI..oi..oi

381 conservativeChick  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:51:24am

re: #374 redc1c4

No. I use to enjoy going on her site and read her movie reviews but now she just been, well, very unpleasant lately. Its now almost unbearable to go to her site now. She just lost a loyal reader.

382 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:51:41am

re: #375 JustMyView

I hear this often, but, in fact, as this graph shows, Kerry and Bush were less than two points apart in early October, with Bush leading. That's pretty much how the election turned out. Note that the graph shows the average of polling results at that time.

I did not see the polls being quite so blatantly manipulated last time though.

383 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:52:32am

re: #370 redc1c4


FUN FUN FUN, diving below hash, quick bank @ angels 9 around the peak, down into the trees and a sub-sonic bank through the cliffs..
threat-com CLEAR! YA MISSED.......

384 tommoon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:52:45am

JustMyView

That was one poll and I doubt it was featured on the nightly news.

385 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:53:08am

re: #379 galloping granny

Cutting away everything else...personally, I worry more about my faith in the American people being shattered than an actual Obama presidency.

One I could get over. The other...I'm not so sure.

386 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:53:45am

re: #366 littleoldlady

Killian, for cripes sake! You are young. Your money will come back someday!

/yeah well, I consider it a job, besides the obvious, I get four free day trades a week without being classified as a day trader

387 JustMyView  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:54:57am

re: #382 galloping granny

I did not see the polls being quite so blatantly manipulated last time though.

Just curious . . . what, specifically, have you seen that makes you think the poll results are being manipulated? Seems to me they have been rising and falling in a reasonable way in relation to events. For instance, during the Republican convention and just afterward, when everyone was very high on Sarah Palin, McCain pulled ahead. When the bloom on that rose began to fade, Obama pulled ahead again.

388 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:55:44am

last call for fruitcup fixins! otherwise you get what you get...... %-)

389 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:55:46am

re: #386 Killian Bundy

I know how serious you are about this.

/just don't panic, yet. Okay? Not good for your blood pressure...

390 JustMyView  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:56:34am

re: #384 tommoon

JustMyView

That was one poll and I doubt it was featured on the nightly news.

No, it wasn't one poll. As I said in my previous post, the graph shows the average of multiple polls taken at the time. I don't think there's any reason to think there was any less news coverage of poll results four years ago than there is now.

391 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:56:52am

re: #373 Killian Bundy

Bundy,

Did I tell ya I'm flyin an R-222 with a winky-flash to keep LAPD from mowing me down? DUDE! L.A is a hot combat zone!

392 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:58:33am

re: #383 nightwatch

FUN FUN FUN, diving below hash, quick bank @ angels 9 around the peak, down into the trees and a sub-sonic bank through the cliffs..
threat-com CLEAR! YA MISSED.......

i was always on the ground, aiming (in theory) for the local ADA and C3I vehicles, and calling in locations, et al, for targeting purposes. call it "shaping the battle space" at the sharp end.

fun to watch the hawgs fly though. %-)

393 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:59:06am

re: #383 nightwatch

FUN FUN FUN, diving below hash, quick bank @ angels 9 around the peak, down into the trees and a sub-sonic bank through the cliffs..
threat-com CLEAR! YA MISSED.......


Hey,i do this everyday in European Air War.An online flight sim.We fly with people from all over the world.But 1940 thru 45. But we do have a 262 and a V1 rocket plane.

394 Athos  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:59:39am

re: #372 Sharmuta

I hope you are right, but what we have witnessed in the past several weeks is far beyond the tactics tried against Bush in 2004. At least in 2004, the left was apparently unwilling to hit the economy to the tune of $1.1 trillion (in just one day) in order to sway an economic argument for political gain.

This is another Democrat delivered economic disaster - and they are apparently avoiding all real responsibility for the events thanks to a complicit MSM.

395 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:59:42am

re: #385 littleoldlady

Cutting away everything else...personally, I worry more about my faith in the American people being shattered than an actual Obama presidency.

One I could get over. The other...I'm not so sure.

If there is one thing that scares me Little, it is that I am afraid that we have let too many people whose intent is to destroy America take too much control.

It really bothers me that when I go hunting books for the kiddo, I can find almost nothing that contains the tradtional Americana that we grew up on. No Paul Bunyan, no Casey Jones - not even Rip Van Winkle. It is literally all gone from children's literature. This generation will have no common heritage of what it means to be American.

396 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

397 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:00:13am

re: #388 redc1c4

last call for fruitcup fixins! otherwise you get what you get...... %-)

pineapple in your lap... duck and cover.

398 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:00:50am

re: #369 Egfrow

That Penn & Teller link is very appropriate for this time. The Episode is about Numbers and Polls. It's worth a view.

That was great- thanks. :)

399 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:01:20am

re: #396 littleoldlady

Morning Maam

400 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:01:47am

re: #80 OtisMyMan

Where can I find a Barney Frank pinata?

You some kind of a masochist? Who would want to be caught in the shower of s*** when it finally breaks open?

401 tommoon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:01:58am

littleoldlady

Don't worry. We know how to survive, the left doesn't. Obama's policies will hurt them more than us.

402 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:01:58am

re: #376 galloping granny

It is over a month until the election. There is yet another October surprise in the immediate offing - one far more important to the United States than this market "meltdown.: The Russian nuclear navy is currently steaming into OUR hemisphere to hold "exercises" with Venezuela - who they have also just signed on to build a "nuclear power plant" for. The last time the Russian Navy came calling we had the Cuban Missile Crisis. And it overturns nearly 200 years of American foreign policy. Moreover, we cannot allow Venezuela - who just before this "crisis" had ordered the US Ambassador to leave (that is pretty close to a declaration of war) to become another Iran, this time on our doorstep.

Obama does not have a prayer in hell of handling that.

a four ship, no carrier, no replenishment group visit is a threat to whom? weekend boaters maybe, but the russians don't have a navy. it takes more than large boats painted gray to have one of those. if they were to suddenly get froggy, there would suddenly be 4 new reefs in the Caribbean.

403 JustMyView  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:02:12am

re: #384 tommoon

JustMyView

That was one poll and I doubt it was featured on the nightly news.

Here are the individual polls that average is based on. As you can see, of all the polls taken in October 2004, most showed Bush and Kerry only a few points apart, w/ Bush almost always leading.

I'm not saying, of course, that things couldn't turn around for McCain. They certainly could. But it doesn't make any sense to dismiss the results of the current public opinion surveys, especially not on the basis of inaccurate claims about what was going on in 2004.

404 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:02:33am

re: #388 redc1c4

last call for fruitcup fixins! otherwise you get what you get...... %-)


fruitcup,
with extra cherry's- I always get cans with cherry's all over the front cover and one cherry chopped up inside.

and can I have a cup with handles - still staggering.

405 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:02:42am

re: #397 Mel Lono

pineapple in your lap... duck and cover.

willie pete in your fox hole.......

/spicy and warm! %-)

406 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:04:46am

re: #400 Alberta Oil Peon

You some kind of a masochist? Who would want to be caught in the shower of s*** when it finally breaks open?

i don't care what anybody thinks: that there is funny..... %-)

407 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:05:29am

re: #392 redc1c4


I love HAWGS, sorry they got the bad rap in OIF-1
They are ONE BAD Battle-Ground Shaper! Low-Slow and Devastating!

408 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:06:03am

re: #402 redc1c4

a four ship, no carrier, no replenishment group visit is a threat to whom? weekend boaters maybe, but the russians don't have a navy. it takes more than large boats painted gray to have one of those. if they were to suddenly get froggy, there would suddenly be 4 new reefs in the Caribbean.

The Monroe Doctrine is old hat. This Ruskie ruse is a feint. No support, nearly retired ships. Look elsewhere. Any guesses?

409 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:06:05am

re: #404 ibmkeyboard

fruitcup,
with extra cherry's- I always get cans with cherry's all over the front cover and one cherry chopped up inside.

and can I have a cup with handles - still staggering.

draws canteen cup from supply, adds cherries from the everclear bottle until 2/3rds full, adds regular fruitcup and stirs.

anything else?

410 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:07:13am

re: #407 nightwatch

I love HAWGS, sorry they got the bad rap in OIF-1
They are ONE BAD Battle-Ground Shaper! Low-Slow and Devastating!

bad rap? they ran the table. hell, they had more shoot downs than the F16's......

411 nightwatch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:07:20am

re: #396 littleoldlady


Is there any fruit-cup with a touch of MERLOT?

412 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:07:25am

re: #395 galloping granny

No question we have a "cultural problem".

413 Athos  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:07:25am

re: #376 galloping granny

No he doesn't - but how many people really understand the threat? The MSM isn't reporting it. Only those of us who are aware and cognizant of the issues and events are aware of it. How much of a political price did Kerry and other pays toadying up to Ortega in the 1980's and his failed socialistic state? How many people really believe the crap that Moore and others spread about Fidel / Raul's Cuba or know what a thug Hugo is?

These are the same deluded pinheads who think that if the US was 'better liked' in the world - fewer nations would be trying to knock us a down a peg or two.

Perhaps I am just feeling the effects of a stressful week - but what I see happening raises my concerns.

414 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:07:50am

re: #408 Mel Lono

The Monroe Doctrine is old hat. This Ruskie ruse is a feint. No support, nearly retired ships. Look elsewhere. Any guesses?

what's near Georgia?

415 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:07:54am

re: #403 JustMyView

The polls are biased. So's the msm. Americans are noticing these things.

[Link: www.zogby.com...]

That's from last year- it's only gotten worse. We know they're lying to us, and I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking they wouldn't hesitate to bias their polls like they bias their news.

416 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:08:37am

Lizzards Guys and gals.Sleep becons this old man.So to all I say G-night.

417 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:09:18am

re: #405 redc1c4

willie pete in your fox hole.......

/spicy and warm! %-)

Had to look that up. Post-nam. I got blisters on my fingers! You got me.

418 tommoon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:09:33am