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Politics | Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:20:03 am PDT

From Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit, an email from a reader who works in a mainstream media newsroom:

“Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true. We have a team of 4 people going thru dumpsters in Alaska and 4 in arizona. Not a single one looking into Acorn, Ayers or Freddiemae. Editor refuses to publish anything that would jeopardize election for O, and betting you dollars to donuts same is true at NYT, others. People cheer when CNN or NBC run another Palin-mocking but raising any reasonable inquiry into obama is derided or flat out ignored. The fix is in, and its working.” I asked permission to reprint without attribution and it was granted.

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1 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:21:28am

This DEAL was never meant to pass..WAKE UP!

2 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:42am

And yet the MSM can not understand why 79 percent of the public believes they are liars...

3 Junior  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:54am

MSM are whores

4 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:23:01am

I posted that yesterday.
This is getting scary.

5 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:23:25am

Joseph Goebbels would be so proud.

6 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:23:38am

Me: "The sun shines at noonday."

MSM: "No it doesn't."

7 simonml  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:23:47am

This just helps confirm our suspicions. How did the MSM become so liberal? I never remember it being this bad

8 wrl1984  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:15am

Suprise suprise!

9 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:18am

re: #2 doriangrey

And yet the MSM can not understand why 79 percent of the public believes they are liars...

Let's hope this materializes on election day.

10 ArmyWife  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:47am

Ay yi yi. When I saw this posted last night (can't remember by who, sorry), I immediately thought - if this is true, what else lurks? I don't like being a doomsday type and I really don't like being a conspiracy theorist, but what if my avoidance of conspiracy type stuff equates to a head in the sand move?

11 shibumi  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:48am

Completely valid point and story. I work in a technical position at a tv station in a top ten market, and they routinely prop up Obama and malign McCain. It's so bad, that they actually ran the "McCain is a bigamist" story as real news on the 11pm newscast.

12 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:48am

I wonder what Cognito would say.

13 ciaospirit  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:06am

Rush just corrected.

14 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:11am

Rush just apologised for confusing the two blogs.

15 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:24am

Tomorrow belongs to me.

16 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:30am

re: #7 simonml

This just helps confirm our suspicions. How did the MSM become so liberal? I never remember it being this bad

IMHO, they learn it at University. Look at who runs all the journalism schools.

17 bosforus  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:36am

the link goes to rushlimbaugh.com
j/k

18 Bogotana  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:54am

OT, but has anyone figured out what is going on in the link I posted late last night/early this morning entitled "Newspapers Purging Evidence of Obama's Marxist Roots?" It seems that three newspapers -- the Chicago Tribune, LA Times, and Baltimore Sun -- have all simultaneously "disappeared" the same article, which details the communist proclivities of Obama's mother.

Is this evidence of a media conspiracy to purge unfavorable Obama articles or is there another explanation?

The link is here:
[Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...]

19 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:55am

re: #11 shibumi

Completely valid point and story. I work in a technical position at a tv station in a top ten market, and they routinely prop up Obama and malign McCain. It's so bad, that they actually ran the "McCain is a bigamist" story as real news on the 11pm newscast.

Yet it is the late father of Barack who was kicking it with simultaneous wives...

20 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:55am

Fu*k the MSM

21 Pyrocles  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:10am

So I doubt the "Fairness Doctrine" of an Obama Administration would apply to the MSM, since they're "objective". But it would apply to Rush Limbaugh and "right-wing" blogs.

22 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:13am

re: #7 simonml

This just helps confirm our suspicions. How did the MSM become so liberal? I never remember it being this bad

They have been for as long as I can remember. They've just never before been so lazy at concealing it.

23 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:15am

re: #12 MandyManners

I wonder what Cognito would say.


Ask her when she climbs out of the dumpster

24 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:16am

re: #7 simonml

This just helps confirm our suspicions. How did the MSM become so liberal? I never remember it being this bad

They have always been that bad, the internet and especially the blogsphere have shined a light on the cockroach that have infested washington...

25 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:25am

I had a comment, but it vanished.

Charles, are we getting hammered?

26 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:23am

re: #12 MandyManners

I wonder what Cognito would say.

Cog would claim we are all being paranoid.

27 Gang of One  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:30am

re: #3 Junior

MSM are Gramscian whores

/FTFY

28 simonml  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:33am

Is it because BHO sells more newspapers or ad space? I know there's a bias, but I want to figure it out. Then again, every time I try to figure out what a liberal is thinking my head explodes.

29 Quilly Mammoth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:48am

But for a Flying Pig moment look at this letter from the Publisher of the CBC News "We erred in our judgment".


Vince Carlin, the CBC ombudsman, has now issued his assessment of the Mallick column. He doesn't fault her for riling readers by either the caustic nature of her tone or the polarizing nature of her opinion.

But he objects that many of her most savage assertions lack a basis in fact. And he is certainly correct.

Mallick's column is a classic piece of political invective. It is viciously personal, grossly hyperbolic and intensely partisan.

And because it is all those things, this column should not have appeared on the CBCNews.ca site.

30 slotgun  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:28:26am

Busted! Again . . .

31 DeafDog  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:28:28am

There is a good side - the day after Obama is sworn in, the MSM will actually start reporting how much better the situation in Iraq is.

32 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:28:56am

The only "interesting" thing here is that someone inside (whose identity is presumably known to Glenn Reynolds) actually admitted it.

33 simonml  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:29:01am

re: #24 doriangrey

They have always been that bad, the internet and especially the blogsphere have shined a light on the cockroach that have infested washington...

That's probably what it is. Now we just see how bad they've always been.

I was happier when I didn't know... Is that bad?

34 FloridaAnole  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:29:29am

I am shocked, shocked, shocked! by this revelation.

35 FlakMusic  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:29:49am

Big Brother looks a lot like Jack Cafferty.

36 maddogg  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:29:49am

I am waiting to see if the MSM is correct in their assessment of the American People as idiots to be led by the nose.

37 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:10am

re: #31 DeafDog

There is a good side - the day after Obama is sworn in, the MSM will actually start reporting how much better the situation in Iraq is.

Unless his Thought Police decide to go after the Internet.

38 chukardog  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:24am

still cant figure out why the buzz up button doesnt work for me. Buzz this thing up folks! early and often.

39 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:27am

re: #31 DeafDog

There is a good side - the day after Obama is sworn in, the MSM will actually start reporting how much better the situation in Iraq is.

Not good if it gives Obama cover to prematurely withdraw soldiers, as he has been promising to do for the last year.

40 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:43am

OT but pertinent. I'm just back from the local grocery store, and everyone is discussing the "bailout." At least in my little town, everyone is furious about even being asked - to say nothing of expected - to bail out Wall Street. Furious. Foaming at the mouth mad. "What's in it for us?"

41 dolfan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:31:03am

What's really bad is how many people believe everything they see on their TV. The ignorance in this country is stunning.

42 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:31:40am

re: #36 maddogg

I am waiting to see if the MSM is correct in their assessment of the American People as idiots to be led by the nose.

Wont even happen while they are standing in the unemployment line. They will never understand what happened to them.

43 kynna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:03am

I'm hoping there are a few others 'inside' who see this practice as wrong. We need to have total exposure and then dismantling of the current MSM. It's happening too slowly to save the country.

And frankly, Republicans and conservatives of all stripes can share the blame. Just sitting back and allowing socialists to take over the entertainment industry, the news media and our education system was less than I good idea, IMO.

44 Teacake!  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:16am

Isn't ACORN one of George Soros evil offspring? WHen this all broke the first thought that came to me was this has the smell of GS all over it.

45 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:28am

re: #39 looking closely

Not good if it gives Obama cover to prematurely withdraw soldiers, as he has been promising to do for the last year.

Unless they become just another pawn to throw under the Dear Leader's bus.

46 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:48am

And in the long run this "revelation" will have little to no effect on the perception of Obama and this campaign for a lot of voters. They do not want reality, they want a Messiah.

47 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:50am

re: #28 simonml

Is it because BHO sells more newspapers or ad space? I know there's a bias, but I want to figure it out. Then again, every time I try to figure out what a liberal is thinking my head explodes.

Sales has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's all about ideology.

48 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:04am

Uh, hey y'all - is LGF acting a little weirod for anyone else? I've had to log in twice today and it seems really slow. Maybe because Charles did whatever it was he did to stop certain bots or people from accessing LGF? I note we have well over 5,000 visitors and well over 340 registerd users on line - is that what's causing the problems with slow loading and all?

49 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:08am

If John McCain wins this election it will be the msm that truly are the losers.

50 cblesz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:18am

I just sent the following to the McCain campaign:

have given money to John McCain on several occasions and had planned to give more. I will not however, give another dime until Senator McCain starts to get tough and aggressive with the Obama gampaign and the mainstream media. Bring back Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko and PLEASE...stop the Democrats from blaming the financial mess on Republicans. YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT SENATOR MCCAIN WARNING OF THE PROBLEMS WITH FANNIE AND FREDDIE! You need to get in front of this and talk about Barney Frank, Chucky Schumer, Chriss Dodd and the rest of them, including Barack Obama who were against more regulation and have taken tons of money from these agencies. WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP!

I will no longer FIGHT WITH JOHN MCCAIN, unless he starts to stand up, yell, scream and wake up the average person on Main Street as the mainstream media certainly is going to ignore the FACTS!

WAKE UP PLEASE, BEFORE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA

I suggest some of you do the same. Not sure if it will help, but worth a try...

ecampaign@gop.com

51 The Shadow Do  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:21am

This is not the MSM I remember.
/Barack Cognito

52 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:32am

re: #18 Bogotana

OT, but has anyone figured out what is going on in the link I posted late last night/early this morning entitled "Newspapers Purging Evidence of Obama's Marxist Roots?" It seems that three newspapers -- the Chicago Tribune, LA Times, and Baltimore Sun -- have all simultaneously "disappeared" the same article, which details the communist proclivities of Obama's mother.

Is this evidence of a media conspiracy to purge unfavorable Obama articles or is there another explanation?

The link is here:
[Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...]

I investigated this early this morning right after she posted it. It is indeed deliberate. If you visit that article from the link in someone's page - like Glenn Beck's - you will get an All Obama All The Time page. It was in Google's cache and I both saved a copy of the page and took a (really big) screen shot.

53 freeus  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:35am

Has anyone considered contacting the McCain surrogates to go out there and do something to counter any of this? I mean if McCain will not, how about Rudy, Fred, Mitt, et al? If McCain will not dirty his hands to combat the MSMLSDs then how about releasing the other hounds of war? Somebody else can play pin the tail on the donkey!

54 Gang of One  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:43am

re: #7 simonml

This just helps confirm our suspicions. How did the MSM become so liberal? I never remember it being this bad

Whitaker Chambers called this back in the 30s when he worked at TIME magazine. He reveals all in his Autobiography 'Witness'.

55 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:48am

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

And in the long run this "revelation" will have little to no effect on the perception of Obama and this campaign for a lot of voters. They do not want reality, they want a Messiah.

Precisely.

56 Max Darkside  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:54am

re: #15 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Tomorrow belongs to me.

"All your tomorrows are belong to me"
/BHO

History is somewhat reassuring... In elections past, the polls showed the (D) ahead of the (R), even the exit polls on election night. The American people still have the courage to do the right thing, even though they might tell you otherwise. When things get down to the nitty gritty, such as yesterday in Congress, Americans tend, on average, overall, to do the right thing.

57 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:34:13am

re: #48 realwest

We got a Rushalanche.

58 DeafDog  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:34:54am

re: #39 looking closely

Not good if it gives Obama cover to prematurely withdraw soldiers, as he has been promising to do for the last year.

Please! What could possibly go wrong with an Obama decision?

/sarc

59 simonml  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:04am

re: #47 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sales has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's all about ideology.

That's what confuses me further. Journalists are supposed to be objective, but somehow they see it more important to be baised towards liberals than to do their jobs. Makes my head hurt

60 seekeroftruth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:13am

Slightly OT: Interesting poll on lefty aol: The Media propaganda isn't working

Which political party do you trust more to handle the economy?
Republican 53%
Democratic 29%
They're about the same 18%

Does either party deserve blame over the House's rejection of the $700 billion bailout plan?
Yes, both 37%
Yes, the Democrats 36%
Yes, the Republicans 20%
No 7%

Does either party deserve blame for the nation's financial crisis?
Yes, both 37%
Yes, the Democrats 33%
Yes, the Republicans 26%
No 4%

61 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:19am

I worked at a major paper back in the 80s and it was painfully obvious then.

And I was in the sports department.

62 yma o hyd  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:19am

re: #48 realwest

Uh, hey y'all - is LGF acting a little weirod for anyone else? I've had to log in twice today and it seems really slow. Maybe because Charles did whatever it was he did to stop certain bots or people from accessing LGF? I note we have well over 5,000 visitors and well over 340 registerd users on line - is that what's causing the problems with slow loading and all?

It certainly is for me ...
Had to try several times to back on - comments slow - frontpage loanding like watching paint dry ...

Are the hamsters all right?

63 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:21am

re: #40 galloping granny
Hey {galloping granny} what did you say to them?
According to the MSM, EVERYONE'S blaming Bush and McCain and predicting Obama will win in a landslide because of our economy!

64 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:23am

Speaking of biased hacks;

Racist filmmaker insults veterans group

Miracle at St. Anna, which highlights the role of African-American soldiers in the war, suggests that anti-Fascist partisans indirectly caused the atrocity by first taking refuge in the village and then abandoning the villagers to their fate.

It even shows a partisan named Rodolfo collaborating with the Nazis. This runs directly counter to the accepted Italian version of events, which is that the slaughter was not a reprisal but an unprovoked act of brutality and that the hunt for partisans was a pretext.

It also questions one of the founding myths of Italy's postwar democracy, which holds that the help the partisans gave to the Allies regained Italy the honour it had lost under Benito Mussolini, the Fascist dictator, by allying itself with Hitler and Nazi Germany.

At a press screening in Rome, James McBride, the black American Second World War veteran who wrote the novel on which Mr Lee's film is based, said: “I am very sorry if I have offended the partisans. I have enormous respect for them. As a black American, I understand what it's like for someone to tell your history, and they are not you."

He added: “But unfortunately, the history of World War II here in Italy is ours as well, and this was the best I could do ... it is after all a work of fiction, not a history book.”

Spike Lee was also unrepentant, saying: “I am not apologising for anything." He told Italians that there was clearly "a lot about your history you have yet to come to grips with ... This film is our interpretation, and I stand behind it.”

65 Pyrocles  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:38am

People I know say the same thing about what I've read on the Internet. Any mention of Ayers, Rezko, or Obama's Communist parents and mentors to are rejected as lunatic Internet gossip. Apparently everything on TV is true, while everything on Internet is false. If it doesn't make the nightly news, it's nothing but crap.

Many "older" people, like my parents, assume the Internet is only good for exchanging UFO conspiracies and surfing porn.

re: #41 dolfan

What's really bad is how many people believe everything they see on their TV. The ignorance in this country is stunning.

66 mj  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:42am

On a truly sad note, the NY Sun, a great newspaper, has ceased publication:

Ideal of the Scoop

Following are excerpts of remarks by the Editor of the Sun, Seth Lipsky, to the newspaper's staff:


It is my duty to report today that Ira Stoll and I and our partners have concluded that the Sun will cease publication. Our last number will be the issue dated September 30, the first day of Rosh Hashanah. I want you to know that Ira and I, and our partners, explored every possible way to avoid having to cease publication.

We have spoken with every individual who seemed to be a prospective partner, and everywhere we were received with courtesy and respect. I tend to be an optimist and held out hope for a favorable outcome as late as mid-afternoon today. But among other problems that we faced was the fact that this month, not to mention this week, has been one of the worst in a century in which to be trying to raise capital, and in the end we were out not only of money but time.

So we are at this sad moment. It is sad for any newspaper to go out of publication, and it is particularly sad for one that is as loved as much as all of us here love The New York Sun and the readers we have won in our six-and-a-half years of publication. But I want you to know that the decision to close the paper has not been an acrimonious one. It is a logical decision following a hard-headed assessment of our chances of meeting our goal of profitable publication in the near future.

More here:
[Link: www.nysun.com...]

67 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:36:04am

re: #54 Gang of One

Whitaker Chambers called this back in the 30s when he worked at TIME magazine. He reveals all in his Autobiography 'Witness'.

Exactly...we're seeing the culmination of decades of work...

68 10ring  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:36:08am

The "mainstream" media is completely corrupt and cannot be trusted under any circumstances.

69 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:36:10am

re: #57 Sharmuta
A Rushalance? Ya mean Rush actually mentioned LGF by name?!? What did he say?!

70 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:36:31am

re: #28 simonml

Is it because BHO sells more newspapers or ad space? I know there's a bias, but I want to figure it out. Then again, every time I try to figure out what a liberal is thinking my head explodes.

It's lust for power, it's J-school education, it's the short attention span of the chattering class, it's effete snobbery (still a good term, though I think Buchanan came up with it), it's a lot of things. But when all is said and done, if you're ever confused about why something funny is happening, it's usually pretty safe to assume that money is involved. Heavily.

71 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:36:34am

The religion of the Messiah is an opiate to certain of the masses.
Isn't it hilarious how things have played out?

72 spidly  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:03am

re: #18 Bogotana

OT, but has anyone figured out what is going on in the link I posted late last night/early this morning entitled "Newspapers Purging Evidence of Obama's Marxist Roots?" It seems that three newspapers -- the Chicago Tribune, LA Times, and Baltimore Sun -- have all simultaneously "disappeared" the same article, which details the communist proclivities of Obama's mother.

Is this evidence of a media conspiracy to purge unfavorable Obama articles or is there another explanation?

The link is here:
[Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...]

you can get the cached version

73 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:06am

I heard Rush mention LGF but was mistaken and is now referring to Wizbang.

Maybe he's got something else from here in the stack of stuff.

74 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:09am

re: #53 freeus

Has anyone considered contacting the McCain surrogates to go out there and do something to counter any of this? I mean if McCain will not, how about Rudy, Fred, Mitt, et al? If McCain will not dirty his hands to combat the MSMLSDs then how about releasing the other hounds of war? Somebody else can play pin the tail on the donkey!

I think that's where talk radio and blogs comes in. We are the alternate media we've been waiting for.

As an aside- I emailed Mr. Limbaugh over the weekend thanking him for mentioning blogs on his show and hoped he would continue to do so. Not sure if he read my email, but I'm still very thankful he's mentioning LGF, Gateway Pundit, and Glenn.

75 Edgar  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:28am

re: #61 JammieWearingFool

I worked at a major paper back in the 80s and it was painfully obvious then.

And I was in the sports department.

They were Obama supporters already?

76 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:34am

re: #60 seekeroftruth

Slightly OT: Interesting poll on lefty aol: The Media propaganda isn't working

Which political party do you trust more to handle the economy?
Republican 53%
Democratic 29%
They're about the same 18%

Does either party deserve blame over the House's rejection of the $700 billion bailout plan?
Yes, both 37%
Yes, the Democrats 36%
Yes, the Republicans 20%
No 7%

Does either party deserve blame for the nation's financial crisis?
Yes, both 37%
Yes, the Democrats 33%
Yes, the Republicans 26%
No 4%

Maybe there is hope for November after all.

77 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:55am

re: #58 DeafDog

Please! What could possibly go wrong with an Obama decision?

/sarc

Hard to tell considering that he fastidiously avoids trying to make any that he would be on record for.

78 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:38:10am

re: #44 Teacake!

Isn't ACORN one of George Soros evil offspring? WHen this all broke the first thought that came to me was this has the smell of GS all over it.

I don't think ACORN is Soros' doing.

79 Pyrocles  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:38:17am

The slogan for my University's Journalism department: "Change the World; be a Journalist!"

re: #59 simonml

That's what confuses me further. Journalists are supposed to be objective, but somehow they see it more important to be baised towards liberals than to do their jobs. Makes my head hurt

80 jorline  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:38:46am

What happened to the good old days of the MSM with Walter Cronkite
and The Huntley/Brinkley Report?

//sarc

81 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:38:57am

Mandy- I asked cog last night what he was doing to combat the media bias this election season and he said "What?" or something like that.

82 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:39:07am

re: #50 cblesz
GREAT E-MAIL but, y'all shoulda encouraged him from talking about bipartisanship - the Dems don't believe in it. PERIOD. If there isn't a Dem in the WH, then, anything BAD FOR AMERICA IS GOOD FOR THE DEMS - that's how they honestly believe!

83 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:39:08am

re: #73 JammieWearingFool

I heard Rush mention LGF but was mistaken and is now referring to Wizbang.

Maybe he's got something else from here in the stack of stuff.

He got something else from Wizbang, and I linked it in the spinoff links.

84 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:39:43am

re: #77 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hard to tell considering that he fastidiously avoids trying to make any that he would be on record for.

Imagine, not making a decision for four whole years.

Hmmm. Maybe I need to rethink how I will vote.

/sarc

85 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:03am

re: #48 realwest

It's because Rush led off his show this morning with a ref to LGF. Way to go "Glenn"!

86 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:06am

re: #83 Honorary Yooper

Let's try that link again

87 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:20am

re: #59 simonml

That's what confuses me further. Journalists are supposed to be objective, but somehow they see it more important to be baised towards liberals than to do their jobs. Makes my head hurt

With respect ... and compassion ... you're thinking of what's supposed to be.

Wikipedia on "advocacy journalism". It's a shallow description (doesn't describe the depth of its penetration into the MSM), but it's a start.

88 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:26am

re: #75 Edgar

They were Obama supporters already?

No, just Reagan bashers.

89 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:35am

Uh, is Congito out here - I'd really like to hear his take on this - and does anyone know where this e-mail was from (I mean which MSM outlet)?!

90 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:41am

re: #81 Sharmuta

Mandy- I asked cog last night what he was doing to combat the media bias this election season and he said "What?" or something like that.

Maybe he's in no position to do so.

91 arethusa  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:45am

Over at the Campaign Spot, they've identified the newsroom the email was sent from as Washington Post/Newsweek, who have 4 reporters in AK and 4 in AZ.

92 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:57am

re: #72 spidly

you can get the cached version

Teh internets has a long memory.

93 jorline  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:41:01am

re: #82 realwest

GREAT E-MAIL but, y'all shoulda encouraged him from talking about bipartisanship - the Dems don't believe in it. PERIOD. If there isn't a Dem in the WH, then, anything BAD FOR AMERICA IS GOOD FOR THE DEMS - that's how they honestly believe!

Hey, RW...how are you today? Did I read that you had a doctors appointment today? Hope all is well my friend.

94 Gang of One  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:41:10am

re: #75 Edgar

They were Obama supporters already?

Don't be an idiot, unless you forgot the /sarc. So-called journalists have by and large been in the 'progressive' camp since the Bolshevik Revolution. It is part and parcel of their self-anointed elitism.

95 dolfan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:41:30am

I remember seeing Sam Donaldson, of ABC News, cocking his head and making faces when he spoke about or to Ronald Reagan. That's when I became convinced that the media hated anything Republican.

96 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:41:35am

re: #64 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

That is disgusting.

However, Spike Lee long ago abandoned the notion of being truthful.

97 seekeroftruth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:42:03am

re: #76 Honorary Yooper

Maybe there is hope for November after all.

That was my thought as well. Surprised to see 53% of folks trust Republicans to handle economy over Dems. This is good. Now, McCain needs to bring it on and hammer away at Obama.

98 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:42:05am

re: #63 realwest

Hey {galloping granny} what did you say to them?
According to the MSM, EVERYONE'S blaming Bush and McCain and predicting Obama will win in a landslide because of our economy!

I would not buy that by a long shot Realwest. They brought it up. I told them about my conversation early one morning with 3 Wood, who predicted right here a couple of months ago that one of the biggest banks in the country would fail around October first. And he specified one of the biggest 4 in the country, plus maybe more. He was so positive and I respect his opinion, so I contacted every single one of my family members to make them move their money. Months ago.

They do not buy that this "crisis" magically appeared out of the clear blue sky last week. Nobody believes it even is a crisis. The ladies in my line thought it was all made up. And they want to know why Treasury wasn't knocking on Congress' door long before things became a "crisis." And they blame - quite rightly - the people who MAKE the laws.

We only have one Representative here in VT, but if Welch wants to retain his seat come November he had better be very, very careful about what he votes for.

99 CIA Reject  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:42:25am

re: #64 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Speaking of biased hacks;

Racist filmmaker insults veterans group

So I guess Spike Lee has run out of Americans to offend has taken his act overseas. He reminds me of the Douglas Adams character who set out to insult every sentient being in the universe, individually.

100 arethusa  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:42:39am

re: #89 realwest

Uh, is Congito out here - I'd really like to hear his take on this - and does anyone know where this e-mail was from (I mean which MSM outlet)?!

See my #91. (WaPo/Newsweek)

101 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:42:40am

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

And in the long run this "revelation" will have little to no effect on the perception of Obama and this campaign for a lot of voters. They do not want reality, they want a Messiah.

On Sunday I noticed a small black and white bumper sticker on a fellow churchgoers car:

"I already have a messiah.
I'm just looking for a president."

I nearly peed myself laughing.

102 skree  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:43:09am

I read this last night at Instapundat and I actually had tears in my eyes. My country is being taken away from me in a bloodless revolution.

103 SlartyBartfast  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:43:11am

Rush: "Glen Reynolds, who runs the blog Little Green Footballs, had somebody send him an email yesterday--a reader of his at a major Drive-by-media newsroom--and this little email will set up the rest of the program today: 'Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true.'...

104 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:43:12am

Next up in our cavalcade of astonishment:

* Water is wet! Film at eleven.
* The Pope does wear a funny hat. See our exclusive pix.
* Bears do shit in the woods. And they do other stuff you won't believe! Check our website for more.

105 debutaunt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:43:22am

re: #12 MandyManners

I wonder what Cognito would say.

Now you stop that!

106 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:43:43am

re: #65 Pyrocles

People I know say the same thing about what I've read on the Internet. Any mention of Ayers, Rezko, or Obama's Communist parents and mentors to are rejected as lunatic Internet gossip. Apparently everything on TV is true, while everything on Internet is false. If it doesn't make the nightly news, it's nothing but crap.

Many "older" people, like my parents, assume the Internet is only good for exchanging UFO conspiracies and surfing porn.

Get yourself some blank DVDs and burn stuff off for them. They cannot, for example, deny the truth of the Bad Company videos. Every one of them will remember the Ayers & Weather Underground footage from the 60s.

107 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:43:50am

re: #78 MandyManners

I don't think ACORN is Soros' doing.

And you would be correct. ACORN got its start back in the early early 1970's, before Soros began interfering in politics.

108 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:44:00am

re: #91 arethusa

Over at the Campaign Spot, they've identified the newsroom the email was sent from as Washington Post/Newsweek, who have 4 reporters in AK and 4 in AZ.

wooo HAH!

109 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:44:03am

re: #59 simonml

That's what confuses me further. Journalists are supposed to be objective, but somehow they see it more important to be baised towards liberals than to do their jobs. Makes my head hurt

In the early history of our Republic the mere idea of a unbiased media would have been laughed at. Partisan media, and proud enough of it to loudly proclaim it, has been part and parcel of who and and what we are from the beginning. The idea that the media is unbiased, or even should be, is relatively new. This whole mockery of an unbiased media is pure propagandist pap.

110 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:44:07am

re: #96 Dianna

That is disgusting.

However, Spike Lee long ago abandoned the notion of being truthful.

Interpretation is the key. There are no facts, there is no TRUTH, only feelings which lead to troof.

111 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:44:25am

re: #103 SlartyBartfast

Rush: "Glen Reynolds, who runs the blog Little Green Footballs, had somebody send him an email yesterday--a reader of his at a major Drive-by-media newsroom--and this little email will set up the rest of the program today: 'Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true.'...

Who is Glen Reynolds?

112 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:45:06am

re: #91 arethusa

Over at the Campaign Spot, they've identified the newsroom the email was sent from as Washington Post/Newsweek, who have 4 reporters in AK and 4 in AZ.

If they want to get the writer fired, they can go on.

113 Quilly Mammoth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:45:27am

re: #48 realwest

Uh, hey y'all - is LGF acting a little weirod for anyone else? I've had to log in twice today and it seems really slow. Maybe because Charles did whatever it was he did to stop certain bots or people from accessing LGF? I note we have well over 5,000 visitors and well over 340 registerd users on line - is that what's causing the problems with slow loading and all?

I was about to ask if was me or are the hamsters off their feed.

114 Mel Lono  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:45:37am

re: #108 pre-Boomer Marine brat

wooo HAH!

Nice grab!

115 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:45:45am

re: #90 MandyManners

I don't think he cares.

116 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:46:22am

re: #86 Honorary Yooper
Interesting story, but - being that he's a libertarian you had to expect it - he wants to see shareholders in the lending institutions punished (shareholders would get nothing out of this) for supporting those stupid government plans by investing in those lenders.
Problem with that is a)most "shareholders" come from investment/pension plans and the folks who "invested" in those plans didn't know how risky it was and b) apparently not only did the shareholders/pension plans and the like not know what the "risk" was, they never HEARD of CRA - to say nothing of Mark to Market or anything else.
So let's us all punish OURSELVES for not being up to snuff on what the banks were LEGALLY doing!

117 kynna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:46:52am

re: #66 mj

This is truly sad news. Good newspaper.

118 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:47:35am

re: #90 MandyManners
Huh?

119 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:48:33am

Has anyone forwarded this e-mail to Sean Hannity? He's probably the only man in the MSM with a cajonies to run with this story on TV...

120 Florida Lady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:48:34am

re: #50 cblesz

I just sent the following to the McCain campaign:

have given money to John McCain on several occasions and had planned to give more. I will not however, give another dime until Senator McCain starts to get tough and aggressive with the Obama gampaign and the mainstream media. Bring back Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko and PLEASE...stop the Democrats from blaming the financial mess on Republicans. YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT SENATOR MCCAIN WARNING OF THE PROBLEMS WITH FANNIE AND FREDDIE! You need to get in front of this and talk about Barney Frank, Chucky Schumer, Chriss Dodd and the rest of them, including Barack Obama who were against more regulation and have taken tons of money from these agencies. WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP!

I will no longer FIGHT WITH JOHN MCCAIN, unless he starts to stand up, yell, scream and wake up the average person on Main Street as the mainstream media certainly is going to ignore the FACTS!

WAKE UP PLEASE, BEFORE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA

I suggest some of you do the same. Not sure if it will help, but worth a try...

ecampaign@gop.com

Terrific letter.

I wrote this yesterday and posted it on another thread, but for those who didn't see it:

Dear Senator McCain,

Please, for the love of G-d, take the gloves off and come out fighting!

Put your Country First . . . by defeating Obama and his thugs. They are defeating YOU right now with Chicago style politics. As distasteful as you may find it, you will have to get down in the mud with him and beat him at his own game.

If you defeat him, you will always be remembered as the President who saved his country. If you don't AND you don't put everything into this campaign, you will always be remembered as the candidate who helped turn America into a socialist nation.

The future of America is at stake. YOU are the only one now who can make the difference.


Not part of the letter, but another point I should have made:
He asked us at the RNC convention to fight with him. Well, we're ready to fight and he's not showing us he is. If he'd "name names and make them famous" as he promised us, he'd go up 10 points in the polls.

121 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:48:38am

re: #118 realwest

Huh?

Who?

122 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:48:52am

re: #110 OldLineTexan

Interpretation is the key. There are no facts, there is no TRUTH, only feelings which lead to troof.

I'm an historian, so I disagree with the notion that there is no truth.

123 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:49:30am

re: #113 Quilly Mammoth

I was about to ask if was me or are the hamsters off their feed.

We blame Rush.

Particularly since he confused us with the Instapundit.

124 jorline  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:49:46am

HOLY CRAP...what does this remind you of?

125 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:50:10am

re: #93 jorline Hi my friend. Nope, Mom had an appointment(s) with lab and X-rays; I have another dentist's appoitment tomorrow (maybe - they're trying to squeeze me in!).
But thanks for you concern!
How are you doing - did you meet with the RA specialist? If so whadda he/she say? And how's the Ambien working for you?!

126 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:50:55am

re: #121 FurryOldGuyJeans

Who?

What?

127 arethusa  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:51:07am

re: #122 Dianna

I'm an historian, so I disagree with the notion that there is no truth.

Seconded, I always support other historians.

128 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:51:50am

re: #122 Dianna

I'm an historian, so I disagree with the notion that there is no truth.

ahhh, OLT's last word was spelled "troof". I suspect it was sarc.

129 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:51:51am

re: #126 x-wing

What?

Where?

130 maddogg  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:51:51am

re: #124 jorline

HOLY CRAP...what does this remind you of?


Just a wild guess here: Nazi propaganda? Chairman Mao? The little North Korean rodent?

131 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:52:13am

re: #65 Pyrocles

Maybe true...but there are alot of people looking at the internet to get a better grip on what is going on. Many people I know are complaining of the bias of the news on TV. I just hope it keeps spreading.

132 kansas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:53:00am

re: #21 Pyrocles

So I doubt the "Fairness Doctrine" of an Obama Administration would apply to the MSM, since they're "objective". But it would apply to Rush Limbaugh and "right-wing" blogs.

Surely if this turd was reinstituted they couldn't say Olberdouche was objective...could they?

133 Quilly Mammoth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:53:30am

About frelling time! McCain goes for the throat on the financial mess.

134 Edgar  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:53:32am

re: #94 Gang of One

Don't be an idiot, unless you forgot the /sarc. So-called journalists have by and large been in the 'progressive' camp since the Bolshevik Revolution. It is part and parcel of their self-anointed elitism.

Here: /sarc

Well, I knew it went back to Stalin at least. With his progressive development in the 1930s of the Ukraine and all, you know.

135 tfc3rid  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:53:38am

re: #102 skree

I read this last night at Instapundat and I actually had tears in my eyes. My country is being taken away from me in a bloodless revolution.

Coup d'etat

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:53:49am

re: #131 Suzette

Maybe true...but there are alot of people looking at the internet to get a better grip on what is going on. Many people I know are complaining of the bias of the news on TV. I just hope it keeps spreading.

And Obama's Truth Squads want to pinch off that access. Maybe, just maybe, the heavy-handed jack-booted approach his supporters are pursuing will have the opposite effect.

137 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:53:54am

re: #129 FurryOldGuyJeans

Where?

Who's in center field?

138 jorline  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:54:12am

re: #125 realwest

Hi my friend. Nope, Mom had an appointment(s) with lab and X-rays; I have another dentist's appoitment tomorrow (maybe - they're trying to squeeze me in!).
But thanks for you concern!
How are you doing - did you meet with the RA specialist? If so whadda he/she say? And how's the Ambien working for you?!

Hope Mom is OK and glad you're fine.

I have an appointment with the Internist on Oct 8th and the Rheumatologist on Nov 19th. Meds are working and I'm doing well...thanks.

139 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:54:30am

re: #98 galloping granny
Well 3 wood is certainly on top of this, that's for sure.
BTW, if you only have ONE representative, Congressman Welch, does that make it easier or harder for you to reach out and "touch" him - with a faxed letter (I was told by my CongressWoman's office, Sue Myerick, that snail mail takes forever because it all gets x-rayed, sniffed by dogs, etc., that they generally don't take e-mails seriously cause it too easy to send one if someone's pissed off AT THAT MOMENT but that FAXED letters get their attention very quickly) or phone call, even?!

140 CommonCents  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:55:03am

re: #49 Sharmuta

If John McCain wins this election it will be the msm that truly are the losers.



Inshallah

141 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:55:20am

re: #100 arethusa
Thanks! Still would like Cognito's take on this though!

142 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:55:52am

re: #137 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Who's in center field?


When?

143 SlartyBartfast  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:56:10am

"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..."

The MSM has every right to destroy their own credibility (such as it is).

Couldn't happen to a better bunch of socialists.

144 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:56:34am

re: #138 jorline

You shouldn't be here. It's a tough rheum.

/sorry ... irresistable compulsion

145 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:56:37am

re: #103 SlartyBartfast
GACK! Glenn really ought to send Rush an e-mail setting him straight about Charles and LGF!
For that matter, Charles should send him an e-mail!

146 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:57:22am

re: #132 kansas

Surely if this turd was reinstituted they couldn't say Olberdouche was objective...could they?

Really what is objective? What you or I would consider objective might not be considered objective by a large portion of Americans. No matter what there are perception filters in operation.

And to answer your question, yes, he would be considered objective because he would be a supporter/booster/cheerleader of an Obama administration no matter what.

147 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:58:07am

re: #142 x-wing

When?

Next inning.
If it's Barney Frank, he'll be doing a down-and-out.

/uh, sorry, that's football, isn't it

148 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:00:51am

re: #102 skree

I read this last night at Instapundat and I actually had tears in my eyes. My country is being taken away from me in a bloodless revolution.

You would be surprised how many people in small towns and cities who are not swallowing this crap from the MSM.
Have faith and hang in there.

149 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:01:50am

Come again?

150 FloridaAnole  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:02:19am

Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall at the editorial conferences of say, CBS, NBC, ABC, the Chicago Tribune, and the LA Times? Note that I don't mention the NY Times or the 2 newsmags, because I'm certain every lizard could write a pretty scathing summary of what goes on in those meeting rooms.

151 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:02:23am

re: #137 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Who's in center field?

Ahem, it is Who's on First. ;)

152 SlartyBartfast  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:03:37am

re: #145 realwest

GACK! Glenn really ought to send Rush an e-mail setting him straight about Charles and LGF!
For that matter, Charles should send him an e-mail!

Rush corrected his gaffe after the first commercial break.

Meanwhile, a follow up to my previous comment (h/t Glenn Reynolds):

I think they're willing to pull out all the stops because they realize this is the last election where they have a chance at swinging things this way. No point saving your credibility for the future when you don't have a future, I guess . . .

153 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:04:00am

re: #133 Quilly Mammoth
YES! Even though the ad doesn't mention Clinton's CRA!
Still and all a GREAT AD!

154 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:04:11am

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

Actually I think it is. My son and his fiance' who are not really into politics have gone to the internet to get the truth and are furious! They both immediately went to McCain's website and got signs and bumper stickers.

155 arethusa  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:05:35am

Surely someone somewhere has devised a ranking of the most-left-biased media sources? Obviously the NYT is #1 for print, MSNBC for TV. But who comes after them?

156 FlakMusic  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:10:09am

re: #133 Quilly Mammoth

About frelling time! McCain goes for the throat on the financial mess.

More please, John.

A recording of Barney Frank denying that there was any reason for concern over Fannie and Freddie's financial statement would have helped drive the point home.

157 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:11:16am

re: #155 arethusa
Uh, hold on a minute there! I think CNN is giving MSNBC a real run for it's money!
And don't leave out the effin' AP - I know they are not strictly speaking a news "program" but they supply their already pre-slanted version of the news to the MSM!

158 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:12:48am

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ahem, it is Who's on First. ;)

*grin*
As well I know (and can guess, without even clicking the link)

I was trying to liven things up.

159 Irene NYC  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:14:28am

In Memorium: The New York Sun printed its last issue today and is closing its doors. It was one of the few sane voices in NYC and a damn good read.

HotAir gives a fond goodbye.

160 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:17:16am

re: #147 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Next inning.
If it's Barney Frank, he'll be doing a down-and-out.

/uh, sorry, that's football, isn't it


Barney Frank= ball chaser

161 kansas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:17:36am

re: #146 FurryOldGuyJeans

Really what is objective? What you or I would consider objective might not be considered objective by a large portion of Americans. No matter what there are perception filters in operation.

And to answer your question, yes, he would be considered objective because he would be a supporter/booster/cheerleader of an Obama administration no matter what.

Well, objective is covering both sides, but I see you are right. Obama good. Now bend over.

162 imtoast  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:22:12am

re: #101 DaddyG

On Sunday I noticed a small black and white bumper sticker on a fellow churchgoers car:

"I already have a messiah.
I'm just looking for a president."

I nearly peed myself laughing.

I have that sticker, I just keep forgetting to put it on my car.

163 So?  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:22:18am

O- who -ma?

164 So?  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:22:41am

Owhoma™

165 Dave the.....  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:24:07am

Bill Clinton's troopergate: Unreported by MSM
Palin's Troopergate/tasergate: My paper runs a daily headline even when no new info has occured in the last 24 hours.

John Edwards drilling in Calif while his wife is in for chemo, unreported
Young Palin issue: All over the media

Big Tribal Gaming pays big bucks to control state Democrats: Unreported
Someheadline this week about McCain and gambling.

And of course, look at all the snoopers MSM has sent to Alaska and Arizona. Same in Chicago? Nope.

166 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:26:22am

re: #160 x-wing

Barney Frank= ball chaser

And the first thing he does upon catching one... is to put it in his mouth...

167 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:29:57am

re: #29 Quilly Mammoth

Erred, my ass. They got caught and found out that no one would stand for that god-awful hack Mallick. If the CBC can't stand her, she is definitely bad.
As for the obvious bias, not surprised. We have been seeing that for weeks.
I do wish that when this is over and McCain and Palin are in (let us pray), Palin addresses the nation in a huge bubble bath, which she will term as A Bath of Her Complete Rightness, with a glass of champagne in one hand and fair-trade chocolate in the other all the while promising to find bin Laden and fund special-needs classes in schools. Also, she should say that she loves us, which I'm sure she does.
That's what I would do.

168 mattm  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:30:18am

In other news, they sky is blue.

169 gman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:37:03am

I recently started up a Facebook account to converse with old high school pals and friends from when I was in the military. It is unfortunately however infested with Obama Bots. Out of my many friends, none speak up for McCain, even though I know they support him. I have been pretty vocal lately and am expecting my circle of friends to decrease dramatically because I dare defy the hive mind. As Sharm said above, we are the media we have been waiting for and we need to spread the word.

170 newsread5  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:37:29am

Rush < Just gave Glen Reynolds credit as editor of Little Green Footballs.

171 kansas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:51:28am

re: #170 newsread5

Rush < Just gave Glen Reynolds credit as editor of Little Green Footballs.


Again?

172 Ron Shaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:57:14am

Are we really surprised at yet another example of the tanked msm for bho, if accurate? If it is accuarte and I tend to believe it is, a head will roll in that operation since I'm certain the slithering msm types see these things just like they SEE all the negative stories on bho, but I'd wager they'll wax punitive proactive on that msm whistle blower...and 'file 13' anything else which might in the slightest tarnish the luster of their chosen one. Is there really any need to vote this Nov.? When a coronation by the msm will do?

Here's an idea for the brave and bold...try to discuss or open any dialogue with a bho suppoter about any of the plethera of negative NEWS stories about their candidate that are not, have not and never will be reported in the MSM and get ready for the verbal assault or better yet first ask the question, 'why do you support bho?' So, at least you'll get 'change' and 'hope' as their only answers to 'why' before the tongue lashing begins with 'lies, all lies' somewhere in the verbal mix. Maybe, I give them too much credit since they obviously down their kool-aid exclusively at the msm watering holes.

173 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:57:14am

re: #160 x-wing

Barney Frank= ball chaser

i did not see that
i did not see that
i did not see that
i did not see that
i did not see that
i did not see that

/*ill-suppressed snicker*

174 Ron Shaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:05:06am

re: #169 gman
...totally feel your pain since that's happened here, too...you learn who you can and cannot 'talk' with...bhoers are so very intolerant...too many union members and lawyers as ex-classmates and/or tangential boys and girls who just used to live in my neighborhood...go figure!

175 Adrenalyn  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:06:51am

I have an old childhood friend who works for Knight-Ridder and he confirmed that during the 2000 election to me

this has been going on a very long time
only now they're just cockier since Bush did not to punish CBS for the fake guard doc's story

and they think they can say and print anything with impunity

176 Tamron  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:07:57am

re: #165 Dave the...

And of course, look at all the snoopers MSM has sent to Alaska and Arizona. Same in Chicago? Nope.


Here in Alaska I have a friend who was working on a construction job (on private property) close to Wasilla a couple of weeks ago. He was operating a backhoe when a car pulled up and three people wearing Obama t-shirts got out and started waving at him to stop what he was doing so they could talk to him. He told them "I'm busy working, and besides, I'm a registered Republican and I'm not interested in talking to you." They persisted in arrogantly getting in his face and waving for him to stop, but he said he just ignored them until they finally got back into their car and left.

In retrospect, he said that if that ever happened again he had resolved to do something more drastic, such as scooping up half a ton of sand and 'accidentally' dumping it on their car, or bumping their car into a pond, or something like that. He was dead-serious.

I advised him to tell them that they had 30 seconds to get out of there, or he was going to give Bubba a call, and they didn't EVEN want to see Bubba when he was mad.

LOL.
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177 Adrenalyn  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:09:07am

last weekend at a motorcycle show in Reno
I met a guy who honestly did NOT know Barack Hussein Obama's middle name

he has no internet, just basic cable

the good news though
he'd never vote for Obama

but obviously there is a portion of Americans who know absolutely nothing about dear leader Obama

178 DaddyO  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:09:10am

re: #7 simonml

... How did the MSM become so liberal?


Vietnam & Watergate

179 Tamron  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:36:06am

re: #41 dolfan

What's really bad is how many people believe everything they see on their TV. The ignorance in this country is stunning.


There seem to be different levels of hypnotism, instead of just the one portrayed as where the subject is numbly sitting there with his eyes closed.

Something like this:

HYPNOTISM, STAGE ONE: LIGHTS ON, BUT UNAWARE AND UNCARING OF IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS. BLINDLY FOLLOW THE HERD. WORSHIP THE TUBE. HIGHLY SUGGESTIBLE.

HYPNOTISM, STAGE TWO: (ONSTAGE) LIGHTS OUT, NOBODY HOME. FULLY SUGGESTIBLE.

I remember the very first time that I went to visit some relatives who were glued to their television set and didn't have time to talk to me. It was in the 1960's, and I'd just spent 3 years overseas in the military (Vietnam, etc.). They said, "Oh, hi, come on in, we're watching a show on TV right now." After watching their tube (and completely ignoring me) for over half an hour, it really struck me as a serious form of hypnotism which I was observing here. Furthermore, I realized that the broadcasting companies knew EXACTLY what they were doing. (Hypnotism, stage one, in action.)

In the past 40 years, they've fine-tuned it into an art form. The Age of the Human Lemming.
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180 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:01:17pm

re: #179 Tamron

Seen it before with people who are TV deprived watching anything that roles across the screen.

181 HD Woman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:32pm

re: #18 Bogotana
Is this the story you were referring to?
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

182 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:45pm

re: #95 dolfan

I remember seeing Sam Donaldson, of ABC News, cocking his head and making faces when he spoke about or to Ronald Reagan. That's when I became convinced that the media hated anything Republican.

dolfan -

Perhaps I am a little older than you to remember this, Sam Donaldson is above all an elitist. He was dismissive of Jimmy Carter as well as I saw from the inside of the Carter Campaign. He was probably right as regards former President Carter - and - then again, broken clocks are right twice a day.

-S-

183 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:15:34pm

re: #182 Dr. Shalit

dolfan -

Perhaps I am a little older than you to remember this, Sam Donaldson is above all an elitist. He was dismissive of Jimmy Carter as well as I saw from the inside of the Carter Campaign. He was probably right as regards former President Carter - and - then again, broken clocks are right twice a day.

-S-

I recall Sam Donaldson saying this about Reagan. Seems as though a birthday cake for Reagan's birthday was being served at a press conference or some such, and Sam was offered some cake. Sam said he wouldn't sell out to him for a piece of cake, and Reagan replied with, oh, you've sold out for a lot less, Sam. Sam said Reagan could take care of himself quite well.
I didn't like Carter but I always thought Donaldson was disrespectful of Carter at times.

184 Joan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:46:25pm

They are so compromised by political expediency as to believe that the end justifies the means. They are blinded by dogmatic certitude and vapid self regard and do not understand that they are compromised. They have no integrity. Without even knowing it, they stopped being journalists and opted to become propagandists. They are Minitru. All who see this need to begin calling them propagandists, referring not to their media employer, but generically, to Ministry of Truth or Minitru, in hope that their annoyance with such an insult might jog loose some real critical thinking. "Have I compromised my ethics? Am I a propagandist, not a journalist? I ask me--and conclude: nah."

185 TexNaVet  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:03:58pm

I wish someone on the web would keep track of and post the more egregious examples of mainstream media bias against republicans in general and McCain/Palin specifically so they don't get lost to antiquity...I know that there are one or two sites collecting and debunking Palin smears, but I think we need a one-stop shop where we can put all that we can find of the mainstream media's fawning coverage of Obama and its overt hatred of McCain...one of the more recent examples I can think of was when MSNBC described Obama's appearance at the debate as"genial" and "presidential," but described McCain as "hunched over" and looking like a "troll."

This stuff should be cataloged for posterity.

186 David Baker  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:19:03pm

re: #2 doriangrey

And yet the MSM can not understand why 79 percent of the public believes they are liars...

I believe they do understand, that's why they focus so intensely on the remaining 21 percent.

187 Joan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:22:03pm

re: #185 TexNaVet

Accuracy in Media--maybe start feeding them incident reports? Have to check and see if they are still around.

188 David Baker  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:31:20pm

re: #145 realwest

GACK! Glenn really ought to send Rush an e-mail setting him straight about Charles and LGF!
For that matter, Charles should send him an e-mail!

Wouldn't really do much good. Rush tries, he really tries, but when it comes to understanding the Internet, he's prehistoric.

And listen to Savage sometime, for that matter, look at his site - like a road sign, a map to Brooklyn.

Meanwhile, try to find a media personality who knows the difference between a "blogger" and a "poster."

189 Joan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:38:29pm

re: #165 Dave the...

Bill Clinton's troopergate: Unreported by MSM
Palin's Troopergate/tasergate: My paper runs a daily headline even when no new info has occured in the last 24 hours.

John Edwards drilling in Calif while his wife is in for chemo, unreported
Young Palin issue: All over the media

Big Tribal Gaming pays big bucks to control state Democrats: Unreported
Someheadline this week about McCain and gambling.

And of course, look at all the snoopers MSM has sent to Alaska and Arizona. Same in Chicago? Nope.

Lowered Expectations. Saves a lot of pain and frustration. Judas Journalism is the norm, Judas Journalists who have lost all integrity or love of truth, becoming mere propagandists and operatives for the left: 1/3 already know it, 1/3 refuse to see hear speak or think about it, 1/3 are in collusion with it.

Judas Journalism Serves Big Brother

190 Joan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:42:18pm

re: #103 SlartyBartfast

Rush: "Glen Reynolds, who runs the blog Little Green Footballs, had somebody send him an email yesterday--a reader of his at a major Drive-by-media newsroom--and this little email will set up the rest of the program today: 'Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true.'...

Rush did correct himself, although he did sound a bit fuddled. He ended saying Glen Reynolds of Instapundit, not Little Green Footballs, which is different, but you can see it there too...

We are lucky to have Rush, and thank God for our internet blogs and the mighty Lizard Army

191 siberian khatru  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 3:17:01pm

re: #109 FurryOldGuyJeans

In the early history of our Republic the mere idea of a unbiased media would have been laughed at. Partisan media, and proud enough of it to loudly proclaim it, has been part and parcel of who and and what we are from the beginning. The idea that the media is unbiased, or even should be, is relatively new. This whole mockery of an unbiased media is pure propagandist pap.

That's a point I constantly try to make whenever people I know give me grief over "getting my news from right-wing radio" and similar accusations. My response is this: The reason I consider Rush, Hannity, National Review, etc. to be more reliable sources of information is because they, at least, admit that they are biased and tell you up front, with no reservations, exactly what their bias is. That means that when they tell you something, you can apply the appropriate mental filters to figure out the truth (or lack thereof) of what they're telling you based on what you know their political biases and inclinations to be.

The mainstream press, on the other hand, is clearly biased, but tries to pretend that they're not -- which ultimately makes them less reliable as a source, since now you don't know exactly which biases any given reporter or editor brought to the table and which mental corrections to make.

I would actually respect the mainstream press more if they would just come out and admit that they're trying to get Obama elected.

192 siberian khatru  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 3:18:14pm

re: #190 Joan

He might've just had too many browser windows open on his monitor and got confused as to which one he was looking at. I'm sure we've all done that a few times. :)

193 gman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 3:25:53pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

We are the alternate media we've been waiting for.

My new rallying cry to action! Thanks Sharm!

194 infopimp  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 4:42:45pm

re: #103 SlartyBartfast

Rush: "Glen Reynolds, who runs the blog Little Green Footballs, had somebody send him an email yesterday--a reader of his at a major Drive-by-media newsroom--and this little email will set up the rest of the program today: 'Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true.'...

Well... Rush DOES say he's 98.7% accurate or something like that. :)

195 bill shears  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 9:15:31am

News editors and other gatekeepers on the legacy information channels are the hidden issue. This is their last hurrah. They're pulling for their Pulitzers and the country be damned. That's a bonus area for the ones who truly believe it's good for the country to turn things as upside down as possible. Don't take my work for it, ask any reasonable person who has LEFT (or, like me, been drummed out of) the newspaper biz, they are a cretinous, pusillanimous lot. Some of the worst people in the world, really.


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