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1 bosforus  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:06am

The 'war for the white house' graphic is too perfect.

2 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:19am
"He'd be too nervous to say them out loud to McCain's face".

I think the problem is exactly the opposite.

3 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:23am

That's some serious nuance!

4 Alaska Kim  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:30am

Constructive criticism? what is Obama now? McCain's dad?

5 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:46am

Wimpy! Wimpy! Wimpy!

6 Bogotana  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:12:18am

Sorry for the repeat post, but why are newspapers purging their websites of anti-Obama articles? Link to my blog is here: [Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...]

If somebody can figure out what's happening, I promise I'll quit! Have emailed the link to Charles, but have not yet heard back. I figure the lizard army can get to the bottom of this in no time.

7 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:14:01am

A gay-loving elitist Muslim!

8 bosforus  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:15:00am

Gay Loving Elitist Muslim.
What are the chances that GLEM will ever become a mainstream slur?

9 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:16:53am

re: #6 Bogotana

Why is your blog plastered with BHO ads?

10 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:17:19am

It's from a pro-Obama viewpoint of course, but still funny.

11 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:19:30am

The actual Obama ad attacking McCain for not using the internet ought to be up there on the Onion.

12 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:20:30am

re: #9 MandyManners

Why is your blog plastered with BHO ads?

Looks like someone is trolling for hits

13 Bogotana  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:20:56am

re: #9 MandyManners

Most of them are anti-BHO ads, but sometimes Google doesn't distinguish and just puts general political ads up, some of which are pro-BHO. Not good!

14 nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:20:57am

Hello all. I went to my daughter's boyfriends house for the first night of Rosh Hashana. Conservative-Orthodox Iranian Jews. For the first time in a long time, everyone was a McCain supporter. What a nice feeling. I got hugs all around at the end of the evening. Unfortunately today it's my family. A bunch of tree hugging liberals. Break out the scotch.

15 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:01am

re: #10 Peter Verkooijen

It's from a pro-Obama viewpoint of course, but still funny.

I didn't see anything that was pro-BHO. They called him a wimp!

16 wright1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:11am

Ah if only this was the truth - in my view this satire is more appropriate for McCain who refuses to take the gloves off

17 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:30am

re: #9 MandyManners

Why is your blog plastered with BHO ads?

I don't see any ads on his site. Just an "I'm a Proud Friend of Israel" thing, and a flag.

18 mattm  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:22:21am

re: #14 nevergiveup

Hello all. I went to my daughter's boyfriends house for the first night of Rosh Hashana. Conservative-Orthodox Iranian Jews. For the first time in a long time, everyone was a McCain supporter. What a nice feeling. I got hugs all around at the end of the evening. Unfortunately today it's my family. A bunch of tree hugging liberals. Break out the scotch.

You may need a extra bottle or two.

19 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:22:34am

re: #9 MandyManners

Why is your blog plastered with BHO ads?

They're those random type ads, like here at LGF. The blog owner has no real control over them.

20 Bogotana  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:23:48am

re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans

Nah, not really. I don't make any money off my blog -- less than $10 to date! What I am really trying to figure out is whether there is something to this or not. It seems highly suspicious to me that newspapers are purging their websites, but then again, I am not an Internet guru. Figured someone on here could figure it out, though.

21 nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:24:25am

re: #18 mattm

You may need a extra bottle or two.

Bought a new bottle of Chivas yesterday. I knew what was ahead. Plus as soon as they get here, I'll head out to the BBcue. It's my retreat.

22 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:28:05am

I dun get it, too subtle for me I guess.

23 nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:30:02am

Rock stars Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel are teaming up for their first joint concert to benefit Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

Obama plans to attend the concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City on Oct. 16, the day after Obama's final debate with Republican John McCain at Hofstra University, located several miles outside the city in Hempstead, New York. Seeing the two superstars together won't come cheap. Tickets start at $500 and cost up to $10,000. (AP)

It's so nice that Obama is doing this for the little people? Anybody got a spare $ 10,000?

24 krypto  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:30:14am

Amusing, but hardly true.

A more accurate take off would be to have Obama doing the niceness and high road routine, while John Kerry and other Obama attack surrogates keep flinging the slime for Obama.

26 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:32:32am

I needed some levity today. Too much panic and distraught.

27 NC State of Mind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:34:15am

re: #25 MichaelAsher

OBAMA CALLS FOR ARMY OF EMPATHY TO COMBAT TERRORISM

You jest, but Obama strategist Ellen Ratner did say on Fox the other day that evil is only unrefined good.

My jaw dropped.

28 nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:34:49am

re: #26 rawmuse

I needed some levity today. Too much panic and distraught.

That was yesterday. Hell the markets ups over 400 today. Why I don't know and I don't care. No he's plays third?

29 kansas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:34:55am

re: #26 rawmuse

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

30 nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:35:32am

re: #27 NC State of Mind

You jest, but Obama strategist Ellen Ratner did say on Fox the other day that evil is only unrefined good.

My jaw dropped.

Does that mean that debt is only unrealized profit?

31 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:35:39am

re: #23 nevergiveup

Rock stars Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel are teaming up for their first joint concert to benefit Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

Obama plans to attend the concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City on Oct. 16, the day after Obama's final debate with Republican John McCain at Hofstra University, located several miles outside the city in Hempstead, New York. Seeing the two superstars together won't come cheap. Tickets start at $500 and cost up to $10,000. (AP)

It's so nice that Obama is doing this for the little people? Anybody got a spare $ 10,000?


Or a spare $500 for the cheap seats.

32 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:36:09am

re: #25 MichaelAsher

OBAMA CALLS FOR ARMY OF EMPATHY TO COMBAT TERRORISM

Is that a joke?

33 Spiny Norman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:36:11am

re: #14 nevergiveup

Hello all. I went to my daughter's boyfriends house for the first night of Rosh Hashana. Conservative-Orthodox Iranian Jews. For the first time in a long time, everyone was a McCain supporter. What a nice feeling. I got hugs all around at the end of the evening. Unfortunately today it's my family. A bunch of tree hugging liberals. Break out the scotch.

Treat yourself! Splurge: get a bottle of Highland Park or an 18-year old Glenlivet, or...

;^)

34 kansas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:36:36am

re: #32 MandyManners

Is that a joke?

Obama is. The other is too.

35 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:36:39am

re: #16 wright1

Ah if only this was the truth - in my view this satire is more appropriate for McCain who refuses to take the gloves off

Yep, and who really DID run a "we're buddies, right?" ad, on the night Obama was nominated.

The Onion folks are funny, but they are definitely left-partisan (and if you have any doubt about that, find the ep of "This American Life" in which they interview founders of The Onion; the ep is titled "A Tough Room", IIRC). This clip is cute, but inverts the truth.

36 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:37:03am

Perhaps this is just a forewarning of how The One is going to deal with terrorists.

37 wright1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:38:45am

re: #35 Occasional Reader

Yep. so much so it is annoying.

38 wright1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:39:54am

re: #36 newsjunkie_ky

Perhaps this is just a forewarning of how The One is going to deal with terrorists.

Our new military tactic when dealing with terrorists, a big hug!

39 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:41:13am

re: #38 wright1

And a big fat one on the cheek(s).

40 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:41:20am

re: #23 nevergiveup

It's so nice that Obama is doing this for the little people? Anybody got a spare $ 10,000?

And Springsteen will regale the Lexus crowd with songs about how hard it is in working-"class" America.

41 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:41:52am

re: #35 Occasional Reader

The Onion folks are funny, but they are definitely left-partisan.

Yet strangely the Onion is still more balanced than MSNBC.

42 Eagle  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:43:23am

Republican or Democrat, left or right, whatever your stance ... that is some funny stuff.

43 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:44:20am

re: #38 wright1

Our new military tactic when dealing with terrorists, a big hug!

Maybe if it were done by a great big purple dinosaur singing sappy songs. Or maybe millions of them, robots programmed to hug until the person captured says, "I love the Jews."

/Sounds pretty scary to me.

44 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:45:14am

re: #29 kansas

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

I think it was more the kid song video than this. Obama supporters are teaching their kids that conservatives are evil. Not just wrong, but evil. This is big trouble. Big on the scale of future social unrest.

45 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:46:47am

re: #44 rawmuse

I think it was more the kid song video than this. Obama supporters are teaching their kids that conservatives are evil. Not just wrong, but evil. This is big trouble. Big on the scale of future social unrest.

That trend actually started under Clinton, IMO, and is the root of many BDS cases.

46 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:47:30am

re: #44 rawmuse

I think it was more the kid song video than this. Obama supporters are teaching their kids that conservatives are evil. Not just wrong, but evil. This is big trouble. Big on the scale of future social unrest.

They had better be careful what they teach their kids, since conservatives tend to teach their kids to shoot straight?

47 alegrias  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:48:14am

Any here remember the last painful three-way veep debates?

Admiral Stockdale's son defends his noble POW dad, true patriot & great man, versus Gorebot & DanQuayle.

SEPTEMBER 30, 2008

Debates Don't Always Reveal Character

My father was a model American.By TAYLOR B. STOCKDALE

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

48 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:48:25am

re: #45 OldLineTexan

That trend actually started under Clinton, IMO, and is the root of many BDS cases.

America is turning in to a place where one does not own the right to one's personal political convictions, and that is a damn shame.

49 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:48:30am

Watching the Fox live feed from the Senate, it sounds like the Onion, please help me, Help MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Everybody see todays AP shiv job on McCain? McCain reaches dead end.

50 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:49:19am

re: #46 Nevergiveup

They had better be careful what they teach their kids, since conservatives tend to teach their kids to shoot straight?

true. But, lefties are drawn to explosives in crowded places.

51 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:50:26am

re: #41 Neo Con since 9-11

Yet strangely the Onion is still more balanced than MSNBC.

And more accurate

52 Florida Lady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:50:51am

O/T. but is anyone surprised by this?

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

53 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:50:53am

I think it spoofs Obama's repeated statements during the debate -- "I agree with John," "Senator McCain is right," etc. I do think one line is true: "He'd be too nervous to bring it up to McCain's face."

54 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:51:02am

Let it snow -- on Mars: NASA

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Well Vail is so passe anyway from what I hear?

55 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:51:12am

re: #49 lifeofthemind

Watching the Fox live feed from the Senate, it sounds like the Onion, please help me, Help MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Everybody see todays AP shiv job on McCain? McCain reaches dead end.

That's just good, objective reporting.

56 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:53:11am

re: #52 Florida Lady

O/T. but is anyone surprised by this?

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

Not at all. It was very obvious that the Dems could have passed the bill without a single Republican vote. They knew it was a sucky bill and they wanted to be able to pin it on Republicans. At least 130 Republicans don't play that.

57 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:53:19am

re: #47 alegrias

Any here remember the last painful three-way veep debates?

I also remember Dennis Miller lambasting those who made fun of Admiral Stockdale [who, like McCain, was a "guest" of the North Vietnamese for several years] for saying he needed to turn his hearing aid up. "You know why he had to turn his hearing aid up? Because those f****g animals knocked his eardrum out."

58 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:53:41am

re: #54 Nevergiveup

Let it snow -- on Mars: NASA

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Well Vail is so passe anyway from what I hear?

Mars ain't the kind of place to ski with your kids.

59 kansas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:00am

re: #44 rawmuse

I sent that because you said you needed some levity. I thought the Dow might lift your spirts for the moment. The Nazi Youth video was depressing for me too.

60 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:03am

Everyone I was with last night ( all McCain supporters ) felt he was running one of the all time worst campaigns in history and they are all sick to their stomachs about it.

61 tfc3rid  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:26am

re: #56 doppelganglander

Not at all. It was very obvious that the Dems could have passed the bill without a single Republican vote. They knew it was a sucky bill and they wanted to be able to pin it on Republicans. At least 130 Republicans don't play that.

And now the Dems will 'save' the day with a new bill which includes all of their socialist policies and handouts and all of the Dems will wholeheartedly support it...

62 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:34am

re: #49 lifeofthemind

Watching the Fox live feed from the Senate, it sounds like the Onion, please help me, Help MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Everybody see todays AP shiv job on McCain? McCain reaches dead end.

Meanwhile, Obama first released a statement calling for the businesses and stocks to all just stop going down in value.

When his first reaction was compared to a beauty pagent contestant's answer, the next day he called on possible intervention by officers of WaMu, AIG, and Lehman.

When told these companies were some of the main problems, Obama finally released a statement saying that he blamed Russia for the invasion of Georgia.

63 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:53am

re: #58 Occasional Reader

Mars ain't the kind of place to ski with your kids.

Yeah I hear the air fare is a real bitch!

64 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:54am

re: #55 cliffster

That's just good, objective reporting.

Look, we all know the MSM is nothing more than a propoganda organ for The Anointed One.

So, it just means we all need to work harder.

65 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:55:54am

re: #18 mattm

make sure it's single malt scotch

66 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:56:10am

OT:

The past two days have made my stomach acid.

67 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:57:07am

re: #52 Florida Lady

O/T. but is anyone surprised by this?

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

That needs MUCH wider circulation.

And why the hell didn't Boehner point to this, rather than his lame "Pelosi's speech hurt peoples' feelings" explanation?

68 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:57:16am

re: #65 smokefire

make sure it's single malt scotch

Ok, but I don't get the single malt thing completely. My favorite is Jonny Wlaker Blue which is not a single malt. Right?

69 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:57:24am

re: #63 Nevergiveup

Yeah I hear the air fare is a real bitch!

And you have to change planes in Denver.

70 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:57:39am

re: #15 MandyManners

I didn't see anything that was pro-BHO. They called him a wimp!

Like everything on the Onion, its a satire.
They're attacking him for being "gloves off".
Note the bit at the end where they compare to the (non-existent) McCain attack ads going after his family.

The "problem" with the satire, is that its just not true. Obama has been launching attack ads a-plenty against McCain (eg the one saying he doesn't know how to use a computer). The problem is just that they lack "bite".

71 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:57:48am

re: #66 Dianna

OT:

The past two days have made my stomach acid.

Why are you a Met fan?
/

72 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:58:12am

re: #66 Dianna

OT:

The past two days have made my stomach acid.

Could be worse. If your stomach were base, you'd have real problems.

73 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:58:19am

re: #64 unreconstructed rebel

Look, we all know the MSM is nothing more than a propoganda organ for The Anointed One.

So, it just means we all need to work harder.

You know, Fox has always been kinda the opposite of the rest of MSM. Lately, though, they are not. Still a little right-leaning on *some* of the shows, but much less of a channel that attacks the left the way the other channels attack the right. Sad. I wonder if they are being bent over by the Gestapo, I mean Obama

74 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:58:37am

re: #61 tfc3rid

And now the Dems will 'save' the day with a new bill which includes all of their socialist policies and handouts and all of the Dems will wholeheartedly support it...


If they try that, they'll further lose Republican support.

And if they pass a bill full of pork without any Republican support, they'll lose big time, considering its election season.

75 Urso1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:59:04am

Can anyone spot the "bias" in this article? Yahoo has been running them on a daily basis. Usually an item with a sinister title title that turns out to have a "not that there is anything wrong with that" conclusion, after the damage is done of course.

[Link: www.yahoo.com...]

76 hazzyday  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:01pm

I think McCain needs to reach out to blogs and talk radio more. Run some negative ads on Obama friends. Obama's history needs to be laid out more effectively and truthfully. McCain should try and bring that history to the print media. Also, he should treat the MSM as a political obstacle and do some work to expose them and annotate the bias of the peoples favorite reporters.

77 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:14pm

Mac spanked him like a little boy in the debate, and this is the BEST he can do. McCain/Palin '08!

78 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:40pm

re: #60 Nevergiveup

Everyone I was with last night ( all McCain supporters ) felt he was running one of the all time worst campaigns in history and they are all sick to their stomachs about it.


Remember Bob Dole?

79 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:41pm

re: #73 cliffster

You know, Fox has always been kinda the opposite of the rest of MSM. Lately, though, they are not. Still a little right-leaning on *some* of the shows, but much less of a channel that attacks the left the way the other channels attack the right. Sad. I wonder if they are being bent over by the Gestapo, I mean Obama

Broadcast news is regulated by the FCC. I wonder if they are hedging their bets. An Obama presidency is shaping up to be a real doosie.

80 yesandno  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:00:56pm

re: #60 Nevergiveup

Everyone I was with last night ( all McCain supporters ) felt he was running one of the all time worst campaigns in history and they are all sick to their stomachs about it.

I will admit that he doesn't go for the jugular as much as I would like...

However, when he selected Palin for VP and the Convention came and went, everyone felt he was running the best campaign of all time.

The pendulum will return....maybe this Thursday....

Remember......Nevergiveup

81 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:01:05pm

re: #68 Nevergiveup

It is an acquired taste. Once you get it, you become spoiled.

Believe me, better half did it to me, and I was, what she called a Visigoth, so if I can be converted, anyone can

82 kansas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:01:09pm

re: #67 Occasional Reader

That needs MUCH wider circulation.

And why the hell didn't Boehner point to this, rather than his lame "Pelosi's speech hurt peoples' feelings" explanation?


I think it was Barney Butthole Frank that said the speech hurt's people's feelings. I belive Boehner pointed out that the Dems want to hang the bill on the Republicans so when they showed up for the "bi-partisan" vote, the Dems sandbagged them.

83 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:01:15pm

re: #49 lifeofthemind

Watching the Fox live feed from the Senate, it sounds like the Onion, please help me, Help MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Everybody see todays AP shiv job on McCain? McCain reaches dead end.

It's not news. It's analysis.

84 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:01:39pm
85 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:01:47pm

re: #76 hazzyday

I think McCain needs to reach out to blogs and talk radio more. Run some negative ads on Obama friends. Obama's history needs to be laid out more effectively and truthfully. McCain should try and bring that history to the print media. Also, he should treat the MSM as a political obstacle and do some work to expose them and annotate the bias of the peoples favorite reporters.

If he doesn't start stating the obvious and point out all of Obama's failing, he is cooked. He will be attcked for going negative, but the truth shall set you free, and we gotta win this thing no matter what.

86 tfc3rid  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:02:10pm

re: #71 Nevergiveup

Why are you a Met fan?
/

Ooooooh... Well, THAT has MY stomach in an uproar...

87 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:02:37pm

re: #78 HoosierHoops

Remember Bob Dole?

OK, I'll give you that, it's close. But I think the stakes are higher this time.

88 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:03:02pm

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Ok, but I don't get the single malt thing completely. My favorite is Jonny Wlaker Blue which is not a single malt. Right?

The best scotch is a single malt.. the cheaper scotches are blended.
I saw that on the History Channel...Personally..I can't stand the taste of scotch..

89 Florida Lady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:03:10pm

I'm volunteering at McCain/Palin HQ tonight. I'm going to express my frustration with his lack of fighting back.

His bi-partisan tone is going to do nothing but lose him the election.

"Fight for our country!" "Name names!" "Make them famous!"

Or were all those "just words, just speeches?"

90 CommonSense  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:03:57pm

re: #7 MandyManners

A gay-loving elitist Muslim!

He's not a Muslim he was merely in the wrong classroom that happened to be Koranic studies.

//sarc

91 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:03:58pm

I will miss the commentary and reporting of the NY Sun. They had to give up at a crucial moment.

Here are tow more examples of left wing threats delivered by AP bullying.

Nobel literature head: US to insular to compete.

One-in-four chance McCain may not survive 2nd term.

92 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:04:05pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

The best scotch is a single malt.. the cheaper scotches are blended.
I saw that on the History Channel...Personally..I can't stand the taste of scotch..

Good to have some onhand, in case you need fuel for your kerosene lamp.

93 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:04:54pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

The best scotch is a single malt.. the cheaper scotches are blended.
I saw that on the History Channel...Personally..I can't stand the taste of scotch..

That means more for us then! woo-who!

94 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:05:16pm

re: #92 cliffster

Good to have some onhand, in case you need fuel for your kerosene lamp.

OMG, you ARE a Visigoth for even thinking that.

95 Dianna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:05:30pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Could be worse. If your stomach were base, you'd have real problems.

Thanks.

96 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:19pm

re: #76 hazzyday

I think McCain needs to reach out to blogs and talk radio more. Run some negative ads on Obama friends. Obama's history needs to be laid out more effectively and truthfully. McCain should try and bring that history to the print media. Also, he should treat the MSM as a political obstacle and do some work to expose them and annotate the bias of the peoples favorite reporters.

The problem is that Obama's long ties to radicals and leftists don't play well in 30-second soundbite ads.

As to getting play in the mainstream media, there is nothing McCain can do there. They have no problem running false stories against McCain and his campaign, and they simply will not run stories against Obama.

97 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:40pm

re: #91 lifeofthemind

Here are tow more examples of left wing threats delivered by AP bullying.

Nobel literature head: US to insular to compete.

The Nobel literature prize is almost as big of a joke as the Peace prize.
Utterly politicized.

98 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:41pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Could be worse. If your stomach were base, you'd have real problems.

whew, mine is acoustic...

99 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:47pm

re: #81 smokefire

It is an acquired taste. Once you get it, you become spoiled.

Believe me, better half did it to me, and I was, what she called a Visigoth, so if I can be converted, anyone can

Well I'm already circumcised so hell it can't be to bad to over to single malt I guess?

100 alegrias  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:06:50pm

re: #57 Occasional Reader

I also remember Dennis Miller lambasting those who made fun of Admiral Stockdale [who, like McCain, was a "guest" of the North Vietnamese for several years] for saying he needed to turn his hearing aid up. "You know why he had to turn his hearing aid up? Because those f****g animals knocked his eardrum out."

* * *
Yes, thank you for that!

Bless Dennis Miller and Ron Silverman and others who finally realized who were the real good guys.

Chevy Chase, David Letterman, others drank the Coolaid too deeply, those sorry failed unfunny old jerks.

101 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:07:30pm

re: #98 Wishing

whew, mine is acoustic...

first, second or third base?

102 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:07:36pm

re: #61 tfc3rid

And now the Dems will 'save' the day with a new bill which includes all of their socialist policies and handouts and all of the Dems will wholeheartedly support it...

I'm not so sure. I think a lot of them voted against the first bill because of extreme pressure from their constituents.

103 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:07:53pm

re: #94 smokefire

OMG, you ARE a Visigoth for even thinking that.

You'll be looking for me in a few weeks

104 JCM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:09pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

The best scotch is a single malt.. the cheaper scotches are blended.
I saw that on the History Channel...Personally..I can't stand the taste of scotch..

My next door neighbor is a Scotch aficionado, he went to Scotland on a 3 week tour of the distilleries.

105 CommonSense  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:22pm

re: #91 lifeofthemind

I will miss the commentary and reporting of the NY Sun. They had to give up at a crucial moment.

Here are tow more examples of left wing threats delivered by AP bullying.

Nobel literature head: US to insular to compete.

One-in-four chance McCain may not survive 2nd term.


Didn't know Vegas had a line on Presidents. What's NObama's line?

Wouldn't want to mention that he has a 75% to survive.

106 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:48pm

re: #99 Nevergiveup

No, and a happy RH to you while I'm at too.

107 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:48pm

re: #82 kansas

I think it was Barney Butthole Frank that said the speech hurt's people's feelings. I belive Boehner pointed out that the Dems want to hang the bill on the Republicans so when they showed up for the "bi-partisan" vote, the Dems sandbagged them.

I heard a sound clip from Boehner just this morning in which he says he had "a dozen or so" Republican votes lined up, who were turned around by the Pelosi speech. Not surprisingly, nobody is exactly claiming credit as being one of them. Dumb move by Boehner.

108 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #91 lifeofthemind

I will miss the commentary and reporting of the NY Sun. They had to give up at a crucial moment.

me too. I am really down about that today. I have nothing worthy of buying or reading now....

109 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:09:43pm

re: #92 cliffster

Good to have some [scotch] onhand, in case you need fuel for your kerosene lamp.


Blasphemy!

If you have to go that way, Vodka is better as as a dual beverage/fuel. After all, its *supposed* to be neutral grain spirits.

Pure grain alcohol (eg "Everclear") would be better yet, but its not readily drinkable straight.

110 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:07pm

re: #106 smokefire

No, and a happy RH to you while I'm at too.

Todah Reba.

111 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:25pm

re: #103 cliffster

BOCEPHUS. Country boy can survive.

112 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:28pm

re: #104 JCM

My next door neighbor is a Scotch aficionado, he went to Scotland on a 3 week tour of the distilleries.

Does he remember anything from the trip?

113 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:10:43pm

re: #105 CommonSense

Didn't know Vegas had a line on Presidents. What's NObama's line?

Wouldn't want to mention that he has a 75% to survive.


Talk like a pirate/talk like a mobster replies will get the attention of USSS.

114 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:11:23pm

re: #109 looking closely

Vodka is better as as a dual beverage/fuel. After all, its *supposed* to be neutral grain spirits

Is nothing "neutral" about wodka, Comrade...

115 Eowyn2  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:11:29pm

re: #75 Urso1

Can anyone spot the "bias" in this article? Yahoo has been running them on a daily basis. Usually an item with a sinister title title that turns out to have a "not that there is anything wrong with that" conclusion, after the damage is done of course.

[Link: www.yahoo.com...]

nope, nothing to see here. Palin NEEDS boot camp to make herself presentable. Biden taking a few days off to gather some notes.

116 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:11:31pm

Well guests are starting to arrive, so I gotta go BBcue. later

117 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:11:37pm

re: #91 lifeofthemind

I will miss the commentary and reporting of the NY Sun. They had to give up at a crucial moment.

Here are tow more examples of left wing threats delivered by AP bullying.

Nobel literature head: US to insular to compete.

One-in-four chance McCain may not survive 2nd term.

Engdahl can kiss my ass.

118 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:06pm

re: #105 CommonSense

Didn't know Vegas had a line on Presidents. What's NObama's line?

Wouldn't want to mention that he has a 75% to survive.


If Obama delivers on his Carter-like platform, his chance of surviving a second term (ie getting elected again) will likely be less than 1-in-4.

119 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:11pm

re: #109 looking closely

Blasphemy!

If you have to go that way, Vodka is better as as a dual beverage/fuel. After all, its *supposed* to be neutral grain spirits.

Pure grain alcohol (eg "Everclear") would be better yet, but its not readily drinkable straight.

Yeah but you might drink up all the vodka before nightfall, and have none left to burn in the lamp. Scotch makes that a lot less likely ;)

120 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:13pm

re: #110 Nevergiveup

Wedding Aniv. and RH on the same day. Better half is MOT., me, I just have the Hebrew Heart, (her words)

121 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:17pm

re: #104 JCM

My next door neighbor is a Scotch aficionado, he went to Scotland on a 3 week tour of the distilleries.


sounds like a fun vacation..I'd probably tour the pubs drinking the Ale for 3 weeks then look for a liver transplant

122 opnion  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:45pm

re: #85 Nevergiveup

If he doesn't start stating the obvious and point out all of Obama's failing, he is cooked. He will be attcked for going negative, but the truth shall set you free, and we gotta win this thing no matter what.


How true. I hope that by now McCain has concluded that the Demorats & the MSM are not his 'Dear Friends" any longer. He & his running mate are being treated disgracefuly.
He needs to toss everything at Obama. Not lies or half truths, the truth is ugly enough.
There is nothing to hold back for.

123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:12:46pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

The best scotch is a single malt.. the cheaper scotches are blended.

I saw that on the History Channel...Personally..I can't stand the taste of scotch..

You know the people who came up with haggis had to create some damn powerful liquor to wash it down with!

124 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:13:28pm

re: #103 cliffster

You'll be looking for me in a few weeks

I had to play it twice...thanks for link.
My sentiments, exactly.
We CAN survive.

125 wahabicorridor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:13:50pm

re: #108 Vergeltung

I have nothing worthy of buying or reading now....

Sure you do. Washington Times.

126 smokefire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:13:52pm

re: #121 HoosierHoops

Yeah, but most of the ales, would be warm, though

127 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:15pm

re: #109 looking closely

Blasphemy!

If
you have to go that way, Vodka is better as as a dual beverage/fuel.
After all, its *supposed* to be neutral grain spirits.

The Russians feel the same way about brake fluid.

128 CommonSense  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:19pm

re: #113 lifeofthemind

Talk like a pirate/talk like a mobster replies will get the attention of USSS.

Simply stating that in a world of issues, this is a story in the media. Which makes a voter look like a Vegas bookie, NObama himself ran an add saying that McCain might not survive.

129 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:33pm

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You know the people who came up with haggis had to create some damn powerful liquor to wash it down with!

I think you're inverting cause and effect.

First they drank the scotch; THEN decided that food made from sheep's stomach was a really good idea.

130 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:36pm

re: #116 Nevergiveup

Well guests are starting to arrive, so I gotta go BBcue. later

Courage.

131 snuffyword  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:14:38pm

re: #56 doppelganglander

Not at all. It was very obvious that the Dems could have passed the bill without a single Republican vote. They knew it was a sucky bill and they wanted to be able to pin it on Republicans. At least 130 Republicans don't play that.

Not to mention that the Dems only needed about a dozen votes and 94 of them voted nay. On top of that, 12 of Barney Frank's committee members also voted down. I wonder if I can hurt their feelings by poiting that out? Apparently, their feelings got hurt when the Republicans took their ball and went home.

132 alegrias  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:12pm

re: #80 yesandno

I will admit that he doesn't go for the jugular as much as I would like...

However, when he selected Palin for VP and the Convention came and went, everyone felt he was running the best campaign of all time.

The pendulum will return....maybe this Thursday....

Remember......Nevergiveup

* * *
Thank you for reminding us what we already KNOW at this blog from the 2004 FAKE BUT ACCURATE media war against the NON-democrat candidate the media shilled for last time.

We are in a war and McCain is running an insurgent campaign. Those with nerves, please send money or do something to get a grip. It isn't going to get better for McCain without OUR active work to win.

133 Eowyn2  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:13pm

re: #91 lifeofthemind

I will miss the commentary and reporting of the NY Sun. They had to give up at a crucial moment.

Here are tow more examples of left wing threats delivered by AP bullying.

Nobel literature head: US to insular to compete. - sounds like colony envy

One-in-four chance McCain may not survive 2nd term.

134 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:17pm

re: #108 Vergeltung

me too. I am really down about that today. I have nothing worthy of buying or reading now....

There's this website called LGF that I like to read...

135 JCM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:39pm

OT

What part of "serves at the pleasure of the President" don't they understand?

Prosecutor to examine firings of U.S. attorneys

Justice Department agents can't unravel the reasons behind the firing of former U.S. Attorney John McKay of Seattle, in part because of stonewalling by high White House officials, a government report said Monday.

But if you really, really want to know, here's a hint. Newly released DoJ memo confirms that McKay's "investigation" of the 2004 election was a sham

A year ago fired U.S. Attorney John McKay was being lionized by the mainstream media for supposedly resisting partisan political pressure to conduct a baseless investigation into Washington's 2004 gubernatorial election. The media accepted as settled fact McKay's insistence that he conducted a thorough investigation and found "no evidence" of crimes. When I interviewed McKay last May it came out that his "investigation" was limited to reviewing trial documents, that he demanded an implausibly high standard of "evidence" (amounting to a confession of participation in a conspiracy to tip the election) before he would proactively investigate or even interview election workers, and he denied knowledge of the hundreds of unlawfully counted votes that were discovered only after the trial ended.

DoJ doesn't know why? Do they read their own reports.

Sniff, sniff.... smells like political witch hunt, maybe for Obama's Investigation into the crimes of the Bush Administration!

136 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:15:58pm

re: #119 cliffster

Yeah but you might drink up all the vodka before nightfall, and have none left to burn in the lamp. Scotch makes that a lot less likely ;)


/That depends on who is carrying it.

Realistically, for the cost of a good scotch, you could buy both vodka AND kerosene. Further, 80 proof Scotch isn't so torchable as 100 (or better 200) proof vodka.

137 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:16:19pm

re: #118 looking closely

If Obama delivers on his Carter-like platform, his chance of surviving a second term (ie getting elected again) will likely be less than 1-in-4.

I don't care about Obama's chances of survival, what about the USA's chances of surviving Obama?

138 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:16:54pm

re: #129 Occasional Reader

I think you're inverting cause and effect.

First they drank the scotch; THEN decided that food made from sheep's stomach was a really good idea.

Like P.J. O'Rourke said about peat moss: God only put peat in Celtic countries because He knew that the Celts wouldn be the only people on Earth who would get drunk enough to try to burn mud.

139 alegrias  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:17:14pm

re: #89 Florida Lady

I'm volunteering at McCain/Palin HQ tonight. I'm going to express my frustration with his lack of fighting back.

His bi-partisan tone is going to do nothing but lose him the election.

"Fight for our country!" "Name names!" "Make them famous!"

Or were all those "just words, just speeches?"

* * *
Thank you for joining up and lending your "fighting" spirit where it's needed in Florida.

140 JCM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:17:17pm

re: #112 looking closely

Does he remember anything from the trip?

He has tasting parties, they buy an insanely rare and expensive bottle, and each of 'em get a snort! He can give you a detailed description of each distillery, what the product tasted like etc... etc...

141 Eowyn2  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:17:24pm

re: #109 looking closely

Everclear is drinkable.

142 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:17:30pm

re: #125 wahabicorridor

Sure you do. Washington Times.

think I can get that delivered to Long Island, NY? ;)

143 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:17:35pm

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You know the people who came up with haggis had to create some damn powerful liquor to wash it down with!

You know beer drinking_victory Monkey..I think Madison Ave. is about one focus group away from Banana Beer..
/
//How goes it today?

144 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:18:06pm

re: #135 JCM

OT

What part of "serves at the pleasure of the President" don't they understand?

Prosecutor to examine firings of U.S. attorneys

DoJ doesn't know why? Do they read their own reports.

Sniff, sniff.... smells like political witch hunt, maybe for Obama's Investigation into the crimes of the Bush Administration!

If Obama becomes President, Bush should flee to Mexico!

145 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:18:11pm

re: #135 JCM

OT
Sniff, sniff.... smells like political witch hunt, maybe for Obama's Investigation into the crimes of the Bush Administration!


I'd like to hear a commitment from Candidate Obama that his administration is going to aggressively prosecute individuals responsible for fraud in the sub-prime mess.

/crickets.

. . .A thorough bi-partisan investigation to determine the causes. . .

/crickets.

146 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:18:11pm

re: #75 Urso1


With some Republicans fearing a fiasco, the telegenic but inexperienced Palin is undergoing several days of intensive debate training

Naaaah, no bias at all.

Why, I remember the dozens of times they've called Obama telegenic but inexperienced, and when they've hyped standard debate prep by a Dem candidate as "intensive training."

147 CommonSense  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:18:46pm

re: #144 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If Obama becomes President, Bush should flee to Mexico!

That's why there is no border! You're on to something.......

/sarc

148 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:18:48pm

re: #136 looking closely

/That depends on who is carrying it.

Realistically, for the cost of a good scotch, you could buy both vodka AND kerosene. Further, 80 proof Scotch isn't so torchable as 100 (or better 200) proof vodka.

Actually, I make fun of scotch as tasting like ass, but yeah good scotch is actually quite nice. Very smooth and drinkable. You just have to fork over so much for a good bottle, I haven't sampled it enough to speak intelligently about it.

149 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:19:38pm

re: #20 Bogotana

Nah, not really. I don't make any money off my blog -- less than $10 to date! What I am really trying to figure out is whether there is something to this or not. It seems highly suspicious to me that newspapers are purging their websites, but then again, I am not an Internet guru. Figured someone on here could figure it out, though.

Like I told you this morning Bogotana, you are correct, this is being deliberately purged. Obama and his supporters are moving heaven and earth with any strong arm tactics they can find to get anything "derogatory" or that might be seen as negative deep-sixed.

This article reveals far too much about Obama and his origins. It must go.

150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:19:47pm

re: #143 HoosierHoops

You know beer drinking_victory Monkey..I think Madison Ave. is about one focus group away from Banana Beer..
/
//How goes it today?

Funny you should mention bananas, as I'm worried that my country will become a banana republic (and I don't mean the clothes store)!

151 JCM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:20:22pm

re: #145 looking closely

I'd like to hear a commitment from Candidate Obama that his administration is going to aggressively prosecute individuals responsible for fraud in the sub-prime mess.

/crickets.

. . .A thorough bi-partisan investigation to determine the causes. . .

/crickets.

I showed a couple of friends at work that youtube video explaining the mess. It sure turned they're heads. They were ragging on me about the (R)s being obstructionist.

152 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:20:47pm

re: #141 Eowyn2

Everclear is drinkable.

A couple of years ago a friend of mine brought some moonshine back from a trip to Kentucky..Diesel would have tasted better.. But i drank moonshine!
/a little

153 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:21:26pm

re: #141 Eowyn2

Everclear is drinkable.

Paint stripper is "drinkable" too. So is horse pee.

I said "readily drinkable".

Personally, I don't much care for chemical gastritis.

154 alegrias  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:21:34pm

re: #122 opnion

How true. I hope that by now McCain has concluded that the Demorats & the MSM are not his 'Dear Friends" any longer. He & his running mate are being treated disgracefuly.
He needs to toss everything at Obama. Not lies or half truths, the truth is ugly enough.
There is nothing to hold back for.

* * *
We can all remind everyone it was democrats who tinkered with lending laws so ALL could "afford" affordable housing, at your expense eventually.

Time to reverse cheesy democrat redistribution schemes we all end up paying for over and over again.

155 alegrias  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:22:58pm

re: #125 wahabicorridor

Sure you do. Washington Times.

* * *
HOla, W. Corridor,

Thank you for reminding lizards the Washington Times does great factual reporting with no inside DC-snark.

156 Celtic Templar  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:23:24pm

re: #75 Urso1

Can anyone spot the "bias" in this article? Yahoo has been running them on a daily basis. Usually an item with a sinister title title that turns out to have a "not that there is anything wrong with that" conclusion, after the damage is done of course.

[Link: www.yahoo.com...]

Easy enough, unattributed Republicans:

"With some Republicans fearing a fiasco," Divide and conquer strategy. Maybe I'll sit this vote out - or so they want us to think.

157 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:23:51pm

re: #153 looking closely

Paint stripper is "drinkable" too. So is horse pee.

I said "readily drinkable".

Personally, I don't much care for chemical gastritis.

The very first time I every got drunk was on straight Everclear. I tried to uproot a very large tree with my bare hands.

158 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:24:03pm

A few threads back I see LGF was considering the Hillary does a Laughtenberg fantasy based on the presumption that Biden demolishes Palin in the coming debate. Why don't we promote an alternative expectation that Palin will expose the Delaware plagiarist as a pompous ignorant blowhard? Indeed a good performance by Sarah Palin in the face of sexist abuse by the Obama camp would be a good time for Hillary and Bill Clinton to pirouette and endorse John McCain.

159 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:24:06pm

re: #151 JCM

I showed a couple of friends at work that youtube video explaining the mess. It sure turned they're heads. They were ragging on me about the (R)s being obstructionist.

Pelosi couldn't get her party in line...she doesn't need the Repubs in the House to pass ANYTHING.

Two local Dems (Sheila Jackson-Lee and Nick Lampson) voted AGAINST the bail-out bill. Did no one tell Nancy P.?

160 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:24:21pm

re: #134 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There's this website called LGF that I like to read...

well, yeah. but I can't get my rig into the "reading room" after lunch time, if you know what I mean. heh.

161 CommonSense  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:25:03pm

re: #159 OldLineTexan

Pelosi couldn't get her party in line...she doesn't need the Repubs in the House to pass ANYTHING.

Two local Dems (Sheila Jackson-Lee and Nick Lampson) voted AGAINST the bail-out bill. Did no one tell Nancy P.?


Ah.....the MSM wool being pulled over the casual observers eyes.

162 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:26:01pm

re: #152 HoosierHoops

A couple of years ago a friend of mine brought some moonshine back from a trip to Kentucky..Diesel would have tasted better.. But i drank moonshine!
/a little


/Can you still see?

Pretty much the only "thrill" associated with drinking something like Everclear is that its illegal in some places. That turns something you'd pretty much never want to drink straight into something alluring to juveniles. The stuff is reasonable if you want to use it to make mixed drinks and such, but if you just want to drink it, you're better off with low-end vodka, which tastes better, is safer, AND cheaper to boot.

Personally, I think Everclear is great. . .for degreasing metal parts, and burning in alcohol lamps!

163 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:26:30pm

re: #157 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The very first time I every got drunk was on straight Everclear. I tried to uproot a very large tree with my bare hands.

/And what did you do with the tree after you pulled it out of the ground?

164 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:27:06pm

re: #161 CommonSense

Ah.....the MSM wool being pulled over the casual observers eyes.

It is if you just listen to Pelosi without reading/having someone sane read the vote results to you.

Nancy lost a mighty herd of Dems off the reservation; however, it seems that the instructions to the Majority Whip were to NOT PUSH so that Nancy could get enough Repubs on board to slam later.

165 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:28:22pm

re: #125 wahabicorridor

Sure you do. Washington Times.


1. The Sun was better
2. The Sun was a very New York focused paper.

166 JCM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:28:40pm

re: #159 OldLineTexan

Pelosi couldn't get her party in line...she doesn't need the Repubs in the House to pass ANYTHING.

Two local Dems (Sheila Jackson-Lee and Nick Lampson) voted AGAINST the bail-out bill. Did no one tell Nancy P.?

Her little floor speech pissed a lot of folks off on both sides of the aisle. Leader of the House, and she can't keep 95 of her own in line, when she only needed 15 of 'em! That's real leadership alright!

167 Florida Lady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:28:48pm

re: #139 alegrias

* * *
Thank you for joining up and lending your "fighting" spirit where it's needed in Florida.

Thanks for the compliment. I've had it up to my eyeballs with the lack of fight in this campaign.

Again OT, but an important question:

My husband, who is Canadian but a LEGAL US resident, called me earlier, H'd like to come volunteer with me. Is there any reason he couldn't, since he's not a US citizen?

/I know it's okay for illegals to do what they want in this country, but he's legal.

168 zato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:28:55pm

If the worst case scenario materializes and Barry gets elected President, he'll eventually have to make decisions because voting present and taking both sides of issues will not fly. And hopefully, there won't be 4 more years after Americans see that they were duped during the first 4... just like Chicago- Changemeister brought no improvements and no reform to that paradise of high taxes, job losses, corrupt politicians and socialist programs. Unfortunately, the lefties can't see the writing on the wall just yet. They want us to suffer before conceding that the man with the lofty rhetoric has no track record of accomplishments that require political courage.
However, I remain optimistic that war hero will prevail.

169 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:30:20pm

re: #165 lifeofthemind

1. The Sun was better
2. The Sun was a very New York focused paper.

yep. that says it.

170 wahabicorridor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:31:30pm

re: #142 Vergeltung

think I can get that delivered to Long Island, NY? ;)

Don't know but it's free online

171 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:32:50pm

re: #169 Vergeltung

yep. that says it.

Wall Street Journal. Pretty sound, although needless to say, very focused on financial matters.

172 wahabicorridor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:34:19pm

re: #167 Florida Lady

H'd like to come volunteer with me. Is there any reason he couldn't, since he's not a US citizen?

It's legal for him to volunteer but I don't think he can give money

173 JCM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:36:05pm

re: #168 zato

I'm optimistic also!

BUT if Barry wins, he'll makes us remember Rabbit Bait fondly. We're still paying 30 years later for the Charlie Fox he made of the Mideast. It only took Reagan 4 years or so get the economy turned around. I figure B. Hussein will CF foreign policy for 50 years and the economy for 10.

174 Florida Lady  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:38:28pm

re: #172 wahabicorridor

It's legal for him to volunteer but I don't think he can give money

I don't think he can give $ either.

But he's put a "Nobama - say no to socialism" bumper sticker on his brand-new car (never thought I'd see THAT happen) as well as a McCain/Palin one. Got lots of positive comments on both at the gas station yesterday.

Not all Canadians are devoted socialists!

175 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:38:30pm

re: #15 MandyManners

I didn't see anything that was pro-BHO. They called him a wimp!

No, the argument they're making is that Obama is not responding strongly enough to the Republicans negative campaigning, which in their worldview is what got John Kerry "swiftboated". Big talking point among leftwing media savvy 20 and 30-somethings...

Get a clue people!

176 looking closely  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:44:38pm
No, the argument they're making is that Obama is not responding strongly enough to the Republicans negative campaigning, which in their worldview is what got John Kerry "swiftboated". Big talking point among leftwing media savvy 20 and 30-somethings


Kerry's weak response to the "Swift Boat" allegations probably was the best response he could give, given that they were substantially true.

The more attention he drew to them, the worse things would have been for him.

Meanwhile I think Obama's decades-long association with, employment by, and selection by extreme leftists and radicals is every bit as concerning as Kerry's fictional Congressional testimony, but to far less public attention.

177 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:45:36pm

re: #163 looking closely

/And what did you do with the tree after you pulled it out of the ground?


Looks like we have hijacked the thread into a drinking thread...
OK stupid stories time.. I went to a party in the Bay Area when i was in college..We got drunk on the beach and I decided that San Fran looked
so close that i could swim there.. So much to the dismay of my buddies I took off swimming to the city at like 2 in the morning...After along time swimming i saw that the city looked just as far away as when i began..
Exhausted I mostly floated on my back till i got back to Alameda..We left the beach at 6am and i realized i lost my wallet somewhere on the beach.
The morale of the story.. you really don't have to be smart to go to College..just a pretty good swimmer when your drunk.

178 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:48:28pm

re: #163 looking closely

/And what did you do with the tree after you pulled it out of the ground?

He used it as a toothpick and put it back, of course.

179 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:48:54pm

re: #171 Occasional Reader

Wall Street Journal. Pretty sound, although needless to say, very focused on financial matters.


Problem with the Journal is that it is now owned by Ruppert Murdoch. While the editorial page is generally good and they have improved the back of the paper Arts and Leisure coverage that was outstanding in the Sun they are poor on local coverage. NY politics, education etc are only mentioned in passing as occasional features. The Murdoch connection could effect it because of his other interests. For example the Sun could be fiercely honest in covering the repressions in China. Murdoch's outlets are always subject to the suspicion if not the fact of their coverage being slanted to mirror the interests of the owners.

180 rightside  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:52:58pm

Heh! got this in my email today. Sounds reasonable!

You like facts...stick this on your bulletin board.
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.

A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) The DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000
5) Americans were buying new cars, taking cruises, and vacations overseas, living large!


But Americans wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right.

In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 1% increase)
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) As I write, THE DOW is probing another low.

$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS has evaporated from their stocks, bond, and mutual funds investment portfolios.

Yes, in 2006, America voted for change, and we sure got it!

Remember, the president has no control over any of the issues, only congress. The democrat controlled congress.

And what has the democrat congress accomplished in the last two years? Not a damn thing! Stop and think about that for a moment.

NOW THE DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!

JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?

181 soccerdad  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 12:54:49pm

..."and then another one about his children" THAT got me in trouble at work as I burst out laughing.....

182 alegrias  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:03:25pm

re: #167 Florida Lady

Thanks for the compliment. I've had it up to my eyeballs with the lack of fight in this campaign.

Again OT, but an important question:

My husband, who is Canadian but a LEGAL US resident, called me earlier, H'd like to come volunteer with me. Is there any reason he couldn't, since he's not a US citizen?

/I know it's okay for illegals to do what they want in this country, but he's legal.

* * * *
Take your legal husband with you to McCain campaign headquarters please. He'd only be doing the volunteering other Americans won't do!

183 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:04:56pm
184 spidly  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:08:06pm

even better than the constructive criticism ad

Obama Promises To Stop America's Shitty Jobs From Going Overseas

"yes we can.....get americans dangling over a vat of molten lead in a steel factory
yes we can....get you moulding noxious plastic into beach chairs
yes we can.........."

185 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:18:39pm

re: #59 kansas

I sent that because you said you needed some levity. I thought the Dow might lift your spirts for the moment. The Nazi Youth video was depressing for me too.

Thanks for the kind thoughts! I feel better already.

186 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:21:25pm
187 Scion9  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 1:49:05pm

re: #84 ploome hineni

That article is actually really sad. I knew about his parents before, but I guess until I read that it never really sank in that out of all those in the race now, he is the only one who has no living parents, and that he is only 47 to boot.

I would think if they were alive today, they would both be bursting with pride (and quite possibly jealously) at the son that they neglected and abandoned as a child in order to pursue their own ambitions.

188 Colonel1961  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:12:20pm

Nobody does it like The Onion!

189 DoubleU  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 2:54:12pm

re: #6 Bogotana

Sorry for the repeat post, but why are newspapers purging their websites of anti-Obama articles?

Do you really have to ask?

190 Zimriel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:24:12pm

re: #60 Nevergiveup

Everyone I was with last night ( all McCain supporters ) felt he was running one of the all time worst campaigns in history and they are all sick to their stomachs about it.

The campaign was doing great until the Couric interview of Palin, which was an epic fail by the latter. Palin's been muzzled since then. And then the financial crisis hit, at which point McCain went back to his day job as Senator. Since neither McCain nor Palin are showing leadership at this point, the Republicans are broadcasting that no-one is in charge- which I submit is the wrong message to send during a Presidential campaign.

191 Zimriel  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:29:29pm

re: #180 rightside

Heh! got this in my email today. Sounds reasonable!
...Remember, the president has no control over any of the issues, only congress. The democrat controlled congress.
...

"George Bush proved that the Presidency is a joke and you may as well vote for a Democrat. So, vote for John McCain to preside over Nancy Pelosi's Congress because... uh..."

As messages go, this one needs work.

192 Macker  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:15:19pm

re: #5 MandyManners

Wimpy! Wimpy! Wimpy!

Hefty! Hefty! Hefty!


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