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Open | Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:30:00 pm PDT

It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.

Tom Wolfe

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1 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:32:24pm
2 joecitizen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:32:34pm

g'night sweet Lizards..may all yer dreams be scaley.....

3 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:33:15pm

Interesting post two threads back.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

4 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:35:21pm

re: #3 HelloDare

Interesting post two threads back.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]


pasketti's gone from lurker to viral !

It was a great post though

5 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:35:24pm

re: #1 Syrah

That was good stuff! And with that, I bid you all bon soir, mon amis.

6 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:35:35pm

I see the last thread was talking about Pelosi family values.

7 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:36:14pm

re: #3 HelloDare

Man o man, I wish Pasketti would give us permision to get that out to the rags...we need stories like this out there to counter the slop that is served up as *unbiased* journalism

8 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:36:27pm

Send San Fran Gran Nan to Alcatraz

9 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:36:48pm

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10 nigella  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:38:04pm

Know I've been up too long! Just want to thank Charles and all of you for giving me somewhere to go to validate my beliefs!It's tough in Northern California to find people of like mind.

11 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:38:23pm

Wow. It sure gets quiet around here this time in the morning!

12 suboptimal  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:38:26pm
It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.

— Tom Wolfe

OK, so I won't run for office.

13 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:38:28pm

re: #8 Shug

Send San Fran Gran Nan to Alcatraz


If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

14 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:38:49pm
all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.


That's becoming much easier said, than done.

15 pat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:40:19pm

What a wonderful quote.

16 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:40:48pm

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

Someone needs to tell her: "Be gone! Before someone drops a house on you, too!"

17 celtic templar  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:41:30pm

Been watching the Ifil Amazon Comments board ... Unbelievable

Libs posing as Republicans talking about Matt Drudge - of course avoiding anything of substance related to the book or Ifil's conflict of interest.

18 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:41:40pm

re: #11 Cartman

Wow. It sure gets quiet around here this time in the morning!

Too quiet.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Did you hear something?

Let's split up. You guys go that way and we'll go this way.

19 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:42:45pm

re: #12 suboptimal

It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.
— Tom Wolfe

OK, so I won't run for office.

But I could use the job.

20 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:42:55pm

New at zomblog:

The Greenlining Institute: Does the financial crisis have its origins in Berkeley?

Yesterday I followed a link to a new article by Matthew Vadum which named The Greenlining Institute (among similar nonprofits) as the actual cause of the current financial crisis threatening the US economy. I did a double-take: The Greenlining Institute? You mean the one in Berkeley? Answer: Yes. The very same.

[pic of Greenlining Institute headquarters.]
I (and countless other people) often zip past the nondescript office on Berkeley’s University Avenue containing the Greenlining Institute — one passes it on the way in and out of the city, as University leads from the freeway to downtown and the U.C. campus.

Unlike most people, though, several months ago I took note of the office as I passed it one day, and asked myself, “The Greenlining Institute” — what the hell is that? When I got home, out of curiosity I googled it and spent a couple minutes trying to decipher their Web site, to little avail. A very few other scattered articles seemed to indicate that the Greenlining Institute existed solely to bully banks and financial institutions into giving loans to otherwise unqualified minority borrowers.

...etc.

21 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:43:32pm

re: #18 jcw46

Too quiet.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Did you hear something?

Let's split up. You guys go that way and we'll go this way.

Oh now that's just silly. There's nothing here to.... AIIIEEEE! argh, ugh, gurgle....

22 celtic templar  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:43:57pm

re: #20 zombie

New at zomblog:

The Greenlining Institute: Does the financial crisis have its origins in Berkeley?


...etc.

No kidding ... Berkley insurgency.

23 mcmeador  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:45:23pm

Anyone know where I can find a video of Gore's infamous sigh and rolling of the eyes during the first presidential debate of 2000? I've always heard about it but have never seen it myself. I'm not turning anything up on youtube.

24 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:46:14pm

To:
Janet H. Brown, Executive Director
Commission on Presidential Debates
RE: Choice of Gwen Ifill as Moderator of the 2008 Vice Presidential Debates

At what point does an establishment like the United States media find the collective sense of honesty to look upon itself and realize that it has strayed far, far away from what could even conceivably be considered a sense of objectivity? The fact that so many individuals working at newspapers, news stations, and other media outlets, have a very thinly veiled, if veiled at all, desire to see liberal minded people take control of our nation, is fairly well documented in the colloquial sense. The fact that those people are more quickly advanced through the ranks than their conservative counterparts, is made clear by the case-in-point of this election season - the undeniable desire of the media at large for Barack Obama to win the Presidential election.

That many in the media at large try to deny this is simply silly. But for someone like Gwen Ifill to be appointed as "moderator" of the upcoming Vice Presidential debates, is an insult to the collective intelligence of the American people. And once again John McCain has taken the high road when he should be lashing out against the clear inequity. Shame on you, Janet Brown, for allowing this to happen. Shame on you, for submitting to the putrification of intellectual discourse in America, caused by you and thousands of other media representatives that are supposed to be closely guarding the gates of objectivity among those who control information in our fine nation.

Clifford Painter

25 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:46:26pm

sorry for posting in two threads

26 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:47:12pm

re: #23 mcmeador

Anyone know where I can find a video of Gore's infamous sigh and rolling of the eyes during the first presidential debate of 2000? I've always heard about it but have never seen it myself. I'm not turning anything up on youtube.

It's at the BBC. It was pretty fleeting, actually.

Go to the BBC site and search for the word "debates." They have all the highlights dating back to 1960.

27 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:47:23pm

re: #24 cliffster

Wow Cliff, i think it might ignite as she read it!

28 Celtic Templar  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:48:44pm
29 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:49:12pm

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

30 suboptimal  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:50:39pm

re: #19 lifeofthemind

But I could use the job.

I understand the interview process takes a while.

31 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:51:21pm

re: #18 jcw46

Too quiet.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Did you hear something?

Let's split up. You guys go that way and we'll go this way.

you misspelled "i'll lay down a base of fire and you guys do the fire & maneuver thing."

/white smoke

32 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:52:50pm

re: #24 cliffster

I wrote Brown. Asked her to remove Ifill and herself.

33 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:54:17pm

re: #25 cliffster

sorry for posting in two threads

never apologize: it's a sign of weakness.

- John Wayne

34 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:54:42pm

re: #27 Wishing

Wow Cliff, i think it might ignite as she read it!

she can read?

35 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:55:24pm

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

not with you here....

obviously the sewage line is still clogged.

36 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:56:29pm

re: #32 HelloDare

I wrote Brown. Asked her to remove Ifill and herself.

lemme know how that w*rks out..... %-)

37 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:57:45pm

re: #32 HelloDare

I wrote Brown. Asked her to remove Ifill and herself.

I was too kind, I only asked for Ifill to be replaced...durnit

38 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:58:14pm

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

/you're still here?

39 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:58:14pm

red- can you give me a heavily spiked fruitcup?

40 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:59:14pm

They should get an academic to moderate. Someone who has confined themselves to writing biographies of Presidents who have been dead for over 50 years. The role of moderator is rediculous anyway. A timekeeper to keep track of whether one side is hogging th emicrophone makes sense. Otherwise the two adults should just respond to each other. That would make it a debate.

41 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:59:51pm

Anybody see Greta tonite?

She just had a clip of a guy that painted a nude picture of Saracuda and hung it up at his wifes' bar. Said he used his daughter as the model.

Bleck, barf,and all that.

42 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:00:17pm

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

"We"? What, you got a mouse in your pocket? Or is it the other voice in your head?

43 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:01:20pm

re: #41 x-wing

Anybody see Greta tonite?

She just had a clip of a guy that painted a nude picture of Saracuda and hung it up at his wifes' bar. Said he used his daughter as the model.

Bleck, barf,and all that.

His daughter? Am I weird to think that's just sick?

44 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:01:49pm

Well this looks as good a time as any to say gnite...
So..Gnite all you lizards!

45 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:02:21pm

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

Sadly no, but if the water makes it back to the ocean it probably would cause a massive environmental disaster...

46 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:03:07pm

Boy, it almost seems as if the left in this country considers the '08 elections its final assault, does it not? They seem to have spent the last eight years scouring for the vulnerable and the weak-willed amongst us, and are ready to take it to the house, so to speak. I think they're supremely confident that the media will successfully keep their egregious transgressions of the past under wraps long enough to pull off a victory in November. Time for us all to buck up, and shove their shit right back in their sanctimonious pieholes.

47 slokat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:03:33pm

I have been busy & there are a lot of changes recently... my screen no longer shows quote & link icons... and the preview button doesn't work.

Is this a firefox problem?

Was trying to post a pic to one of the reasons I wasn't around. Just bought the "Wind Tamer" at bank auction.

Hope this link works... since I can't test it.

[Link: slokat.com...]

48 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:04:52pm
49 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:04:53pm

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

Take it easy, don't let anyone rattle you and most important, be civil and treat everyone respectfully and the answer will probably be yes. Lizards are fair minded people.

50 runrabbitrun  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:05:00pm

Drudge Report this past 24 hours:

'Obama kids Sing for Dear Leader'
'Pelosi paid Husband with PAC Funds'
'VP Debate Moderator Releasing 'Age of Obama' Book on Inauguration Day'*

You know, every time one of us Repubs reads a story on a right-wing blog that makes us ready to tear our hair out with outrage and asks here, 'how on earth are we going to leap over the heads of the MSM and get the word out about this?' I quietly thank the Lord for Matt. He may not be perfect, or the answer to all of our prayers, but at least his broadcasts reach some of the voters besides the choir...

*and the hits keep coming

51 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:05:11pm

re: #47 slokat

Which marina is that? Morro Bay?

52 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:05:17pm

Goodnight ladies.

53 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:05:34pm

re: #47 slokat

Link works. Didn't you know there's a credit freeze? Or was this one cash and row?

54 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:06:03pm

re: #25 cliffster

sorry for posting in two threads


Phew! I'm glad you said that. I read the post and was thinking "didn't I just read this?" deja vu all over again.

speaking of yogi berra; saw the Yanks last game at Yankee Stadium and saw YOGI BERRA! I did not know he was still alive and kicking.

55 gas238  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:07:30pm

The Obama Youth Movement !

56 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:07:40pm

re: #54 jcw46

speaking of yogi berra; saw the Yanks last game at Yankee Stadium and saw YOGI BERRA! I did not know he was still alive and kicking.

No way. Seriously, no way. Really?

57 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:08:05pm

re: #33 redc1c4

never apologize: it's a sign of weakness.

- John Wayne

Never EXPLAIN!

58 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:08:37pm

re: #39 Sharmuta

red- can you give me a heavily spiked fruitcup?

i wasn't aware that any other NDC was available............. %-)

KRED, the LNDT Lizard Radio, coming at you from over the border,
featuring all fruitcup all the time. ....
you give us 22 minutes, we'll give you a buzz.

and now, more border radio

59 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:08:59pm

re: #43 cliffster

His daughter? Am I weird to think that's just sick?

I didn''t catch his party affiliation,but he paints, and he is from Chicago.

Lot of freakin' weirdos up there.

/to answer your question though. No

60 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:09:06pm

Well for one thing I'm glad the bailout lost. IT was worth it just to see Megan McArdle's metldown.

61 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:09:22pm

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

Like I said on Hot Air this morning, when San Fran Nan was whining about a "witch hunt" for Fannie Mae officials---it's not like they spell witch with a B, so Nancy should be OK

62 capitalist piglet  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:09:28pm

re: #24 cliffster

I am applauding you. Great letter.

63 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:09:40pm

re: #54 jcw46

Yogi has really shrunk, in his old age. He must be about 4' 10", from that pic I saw of him.

64 runrabbitrun  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:10:27pm

re: #8 Shug

Send San Fran Gran Nan to Alcatraz

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

nah, by now her skin is stretched tighter than a wetsuit - she could swim to Alcatraz without even getting damp.

65 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:10:56pm

re: #47 slokat

I have been busy & there are a lot of changes recently... my screen no longer shows quote & link icons... and the preview button doesn't work.

Is this a firefox problem?

Was trying to post a pic to one of the reasons I wasn't around. Just bought the "Wind Tamer" at bank auction.

Hope this link works... since I can't test it.

[Link: slokat.com...]

nice boat.... you going to sail it north?

(you need a decK hand? %-)

66 Scion9  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:11pm

OT:
Don't know if this redub was posted over in the Obamajungen thread, but it's pretty hilarious...

67 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:22pm

re: #56 cliffster

No way. Seriously, no way. Really?

Yes indeed. I am not a big baseball fan but I lived near NYC and always read the NYDN and NYT (spit) and hadn't heard anything at all about him so he must have been just cruising along and enjoying himself and staying out of baseball stuff cause I thought he was gone years ago.
Then come the final game at Yankee Stadium and I guess he couldn't resist. I believe he was there with whitey ford and some other Yankees from the past.

68 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:11:50pm

re: #64 runrabbitrun

nah, by now her skin is stretched tighter than a wetsuit - she could swim to Alcatraz without even getting damp.

And use those eyelids as propellers.

69 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:12:45pm

re: #60 EIDE_Interface
I'm more interested in why it lost. Dem stupidity? Dem head fake? ( They come back on Thrusday and pass their origional double plus bad bill?) Just gonna go for broke in the Senate this PM where they think they can strong arm the Reps?

70 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:13:23pm

re: #47 slokat

I have been busy & there are a lot of changes recently... my screen no longer shows quote & link icons... and the preview button doesn't work.

Is this a firefox problem?

Was trying to post a pic to one of the reasons I wasn't around. Just bought the "Wind Tamer" at bank auction.

Hope this link works... since I can't test it.

[Link: slokat.com...]

You're here in wonderful sunny InSane Diego?

71 slokat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:13:24pm

Sheesh, something is really messing with my browser tonight, the reply button takes me back to the main page...

Zombie - that pic is in Long Beach harbor, the boat is currently in a slip at Wilmington for some mechanical fixes. Looking to get a slip in Morro Bay, though.

Panhandler - cash & sail! ;)

72 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:14:00pm

re: #69 Panhandler

I'm more interested in why it lost. Dem stupidity? Dem head fake? ( They come back on Thrusday and pass their origional double plus bad bill?) Just gonna go for broke in the Senate this PM where they think they can strong arm the Reps?

It has to pass the House to get to the Senate. No way in hell is the House going to approve any bailout bill this close to an election with 100:1 emails/calls against it. 9% Nancy is toast.

73 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:14:20pm

Aw, come on! Don't get him started, fer cryin' out loud!

74 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:15:02pm

re: #47 slokat
And that would be a what -- 30 - 36 footer? Ketch rigged? don't see that too often.

75 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:15:19pm

re: #71 slokat

Sheesh, something is really messing with my browser tonight, the reply button takes me back to the main page...

Zombie - that pic is in Long Beach harbor, the boat is currently in a slip at Wilmington for some mechanical fixes. Looking to get a slip in Morro Bay, though.

Panhandler - cash & sail! ;)

if you need a deckhand to get up the coast, i'm your huckleberry.

not a sailor, but not dumb, plus i can swim. %-)

76 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:15:59pm

re: #69 Panhandler

I'm more interested in why it lost. Dem stupidity? Dem head fake? ( They come back on Thrusday and pass their origional double plus bad bill?) Just gonna go for broke in the Senate this PM where they think they can strong arm the Reps?

My guess is that the dems voted against it because they were forced to take most of their pork out of it. Now they will try to sneak it and ten times more back in it in some treasonous closed door secret underhanded deal...

77 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:16:09pm

re: #72 EIDE_Interface

I think so too, but how the heck are the Dems going to figure out a way to pay off the unions and ACORN? Where are they going to try to hide it?

78 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:16:18pm

re: #70 doriangrey

You're here in wonderful sunny InSane Diego?

i was there sunday for the Fear concert at HOB: where were you?

79 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:17:08pm

re: #73 Cartman

Aw, come on! Don't get him started, fer cryin' out loud!

*sob*

80 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:17:18pm

re: #73 Cartman

Aw, come on! Don't get him started, fer cryin' out loud!

He says he wants to try the other foot. We'll see.

81 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:17:42pm

re: #72 EIDE_Interface

It has to pass the House to get to the Senate. No way in hell is the House going to approve any bailout bill this close to an election with 100:1 emails/calls against it. 9% Nancy is toast.

We can only pray that this kills Nancy's tenure has speaker....

82 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:17:44pm

re: #71 slokat

Sheesh, something is really messing with my browser tonight, the reply button takes me back to the main page...

Zombie - that pic is in Long Beach harbor, the boat is currently in a slip at Wilmington for some mechanical fixes. Looking to get a slip in Morro Bay, though.

Panhandler - cash & sail! ;)

Ah, Wilmington harbor area -- I know exactly where that is.

Why, I can see your boat from here!

83 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:17:58pm

re: #80 Panhandler

He says he wants to try the other foot. We'll see.

You mean the RIGHT one?

84 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:18:34pm

re: #77 Panhandler

I think so too, but how the heck are the Dems going to figure out a way to pay off the unions and ACORN? Where are they going to try to hide it?

9% Nancy's next ploy will be to load it up with as much pork as possible to get 12 more Dems, but it won't work this close to an election. The people would see it as a cynical ploy - and those 12 that voted YES would lose their seats. No Dem or Rep is going to commit political suicide to help 9% Nancy.

85 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:18:54pm

re: #79 MandyManners

*sob*

Oh, alright. I've had to read him for the last 2 days, I'm a closet masochist I guess.

86 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:19:20pm

re: #80 Panhandler

He says he wants to try the other foot. We'll see.

Well, lots of luck with that one. Take four aspirin, and call us in the morning.

87 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:20:05pm

re: #78 redc1c4

i was there sunday for the Fear concert at HOB: where were you?

I live in a sleepy little town in San Diego Counties North County, called Ramona. About 40 miles north/east of San Diego proper...

88 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:09pm

re: #35 redc1c4

not with you here....

obviously the sewage line is still clogged.


Oh the LINE is fine, it's the filter that's on bypass.

89 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:14pm

re: #85 Panhandler

Oh, alright. I've had to read him for the last 2 days, I'm a closet masochist I guess.

His shit on the thread about sharia courts did me in forever.

90 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:37pm

dorian - is the CA budget still not passed? I can't seem to find any info on that? I heard the legislature passed a budget that included collecting the taxes much faster, but that Schwarz would veto it?

91 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:42pm

re: #79 MandyManners

*sob*

Come on Mandy... Be a good Christian and be willing to forgive past indiscretions. If he behaves accept it and move on.

92 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:43pm

re: #43 cliffster

His daughter? Am I weird to think that's just sick?

He's a loiberal. They don't get hung up on trivialities like fathers using their daughters as nude models for paintings.

I wonder if she got paid by the hour?

93 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:45pm

re: #86 Cartman

I'm sold on the Cone of Silence.

94 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:48pm

And, with that, I'm going back to bed. High BP never helps with a touch of insomnia.

95 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:21:52pm

re: #86 Cartman

Well, lots of luck with that one. Take four aspirin, and call us in the morning.

Washed down with Everclear? Or injected directly into the frontal lobe with a pneumatic air gun? I'm new at this so help me out here.

96 slokat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:22:52pm

Red: Hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll need a deck hand... takes approx. 2-1/2 days to sail uphill to Port San Luis, where I have a temporary mooring lined up.

Got some diesel things to fix & a niece getting married, plus the weather to juggle.

She's a 1979 Pearson 365KE = 36.5' Ketch

Doriangrey - no not San Diego, that's where the boat was registered, it's new home port will be Morro Bay. I've been down to Long Beach three times in the last ten days... close but not quite that far south.

97 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:23:01pm

re: #90 EIDE_Interface

dorian - is the CA budget still not passed? I can't seem to find any info on that? I heard the legislature passed a budget that included collecting the taxes much faster, but that Schwarz would veto it?

I dont know, last I heard he was threatening to veto it, but havent heard anything lately.

98 rancher  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:23:52pm

re: #18 jcw46

Let's split up.

Yea, that always works.

99 srb1976  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:23:55pm

Evening all, ending up the day right where I started it, Awake while everyone else sleeps. Have I missed anything fun?

100 RTLM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:25:03pm

SEC suspends Market-to-Market.

The current environment has made questions surrounding the determination of fair value particularly challenging for preparers, auditors, and users of financial information. The SEC's Office of the Chief Accountant and the staff of the FASB have been engaged in extensive consultations with participants in the capital markets, including investors, preparers, and auditors, on the application of fair value measurements in the current market environment.
[snip]

... the SEC staff and the FASB staff will continue to consult with capital market participants on issues encountered in the application of fair value measurements.


Good start. Now get on with the Sarbanes-Oxley repeal, zero % capital gains and $500B home energy production.


Go Newt.

101 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:25:37pm

re: #97 doriangrey

I dont know, last I heard he was threatening to veto it, but havent heard anything lately.

In WA state we are facing a $3.2 billion deficit for 2008-2009, but only the GOP candidate is talking about it. The incumbent (D) governor won't even discuss it.

102 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:25:52pm

re: #95 Panhandler

If you hang in there with him long enough, you'll come to the realization that substituting the aspirin for cyanide should prove sufficient.

103 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:26:17pm

Oh snap, just saw this quote over at Hot Air.

This Pres. race is supposed to be all about reaching across the aisle to get things done.

And lookie at this little nugget that came out of Obamas' mouth.

I don’t think me calling House Republican members would have been that helpful, I tend not to be that persuasive on that side of the aisle


/daaaaaaaaaamn,

104 rancher  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:26:38pm

re: #100 RTLM

SEC suspends Market-to-Market.


Good start. Now get on with the Sarbanes-Oxley repeal, zero % capital gains and $500B home energy production.


Go Newt.


I've heard that that will clear up 70% of the problem. Sarbanes-Oxley is probably most of the rest.

105 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:27:27pm

re: #99 srb1976

Did you ever!
We went on the Choo Choo!
(Sorry guys, just had to do it)

106 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:30:51pm

re: #89 MandyManners

Right on Mandy, I just read his comment. He's a POS. PLEASE EVERYONE REFRAIN FROM INTERACTING WITH IT.

107 srb1976  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:31:00pm

re: #105 Panhandler
Wow...that certainly caught me off guard

108 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:31:07pm

re: #105 Panhandler

Every time I watch that vid I feel like I've been suspended from reality for 3 or 4 minutes. Or like I've landed on another planet.

109 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:31:33pm

Just a total coincidence, but the $700B bailout figure is exactly the amount America pays for foreign oil every year....

110 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:33:00pm

re: #87 doriangrey

I live in a sleepy little town in San Diego Counties North County, called Ramona. About 40 miles north/east of San Diego proper...

been there, done that, and the concert would have been well worth the trip.
GFI, Agent Orange and Fear? why would you stay in Ramona?

111 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:33:26pm

re: #109 EIDE_Interface

Just a total coincidence, but the $700B bailout figure is exactly the amount America pays for foreign oil every year....

No.

/got a linky for that?

112 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:34:11pm

re: #88 jcw46

Oh the LINE is fine, it's the filter that's on bypass.

WTF filters a sewage line?

(other than a mess sergeant? %-)

113 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:34:59pm
114 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:35:30pm

re: #105 Panhandler

Did you ever!
We went on the Choo Choo!
(Sorry guys, just had to do it)

What the hell was that? The chick was hot and all,but, was that an actual language they were singing in?

////

115 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:35:47pm

re: #89 MandyManners

i can only imagine.

116 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:36:37pm

re: #58 redc1c4

i wasn't aware that any other NDC was available............. %-)

KRED, the LNDT Lizard Radio, coming at you from over the border,
featuring all fruitcup all the time. ....
you give us 22 minutes, we'll give you a buzz.

and now, more border radio

Pretty rockin'- thanks, red.

117 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:37:28pm

re: #110 redc1c4

been there, done that, and the concert would have been well worth the trip.
GFI, Agent Orange and Fear? why would you stay in Ramona?

It's quite, conservative, and rural. Whats not to love about it. Besides, it has some wickedly wonderfully twisty roads to drive my Vette on...

118 Killian Bundy[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:37:44pm
119 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:38:08pm

re: #112 redc1c4

WTF filters a sewage line?

(other than a mess sergeant? %-)

Look you have to keep the hydrogenated feces from interacting with the non-hydrogenated feces or else your in world of ...

120 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:38:26pm

re: #97 doriangrey

I dont know, last I heard he was threatening to veto it, but havent heard anything lately.

last i heard, he had vetoed one and sent it back, but since it's all bullshit, i only pay attention to the part about how far they are going to stretch me.

red

121 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:39:26pm

re: #118 Killian Bundy

So?

/remember, don't cut across the wrist, slice the vein down the arm

Or drink it down quickly so you don't gag.

122 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:39:35pm

re: #120 redc1c4

last i heard, he had vetoed one and sent it back, but since it's all bullshit, i only pay attention to the part about how far they are going to stretch me.

red

Yea, I know the feeling.....

123 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:39:54pm

re: #118 Killian Bundy

So?

/remember, don't cut across the wrist, slice the vein down the arm


Wine is fine but whiskeys' quicker.

124 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:40:44pm

re: #122 doriangrey

Yea, I know the feeling.....

One would think facing a $30 billion deficit that they can't cover it up with tricks anymore like they did back in 2003. They're going to either have to make huge REAL cuts or soak the rich.

125 RTLM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:41:07pm

re: #123 x-wing

Wine is fine but whiskeys' quicker.

Indeed.

126 slokat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:41:14pm

re: #74 jcw46

Yes, Good Eye! - it's a 36.5 foot ketch, with a roller furled 150% Genoa. Also found a red & white Spinnaker in a dousing sock, buried under a mile of rope in the sail locker.

It's a bank repo, so I'm still discovering equipment & supplies...

127 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:42:20pm

re: #113 EIDE_Interface

T-Bone Pickens says we spend $700 billion a year on foreign oil

I dont trust T-Bone as far as I can throw the USS John F. Kennedy. The man made his fortune buy hostile take over and then closing the companies firing everyone and selling the assets off for pennies on the dollar.

128 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:42:31pm

re: #118 Killian Bundy

So?

/remember, don't cut across the wrist, slice the vein down the arm

Pickens is a piker. He's only worth 3 billion. the u.s. pays more for underwater basket weaving research.

129 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:44:16pm

re: #124 EIDE_Interface

One would think facing a $30 billion deficit that they can't cover it up with tricks anymore like they did back in 2003. They're going to either have to make huge REAL cuts or soak the rich.

There aren't enough rich here in California for that to work, I expect them to put nearly everyone in the poor house and drive what few good business are left here either out of the state or out of the country all together.

130 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:44:55pm

re: #127 doriangrey

I dont trust T-Bone as far as I can throw the USS John F. Kennedy. The man made his fortune buy hostile take over and then closing the companies firing everyone and selling the assets off for pennies on the dollar.

Also I don't buy his "let's burn natural gas as auto fuel". If we did that, we'd exhaust our natural gas supplies. Let's keep it for electricity generation and heating homes. That will stretch out our natural gas supply much longer. I think he has money to be made with natural gas vehicles, which is why he's peddling it.

131 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:45:34pm

re: #129 doriangrey

There aren't enough rich here in California for that to work, I expect them to put nearly everyone in the poor house and drive what few good business are left here either out of the state or out of the country all together.

Yet CA still grows in population and is expected to gain 2-3 electoral votes in 2010. Go figure.

132 Panhandler  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:45:42pm

re: #126 slokat

Ah yes, fond memories of a 44' Gulfstar with self reefing main and jib, and fuel tanks under the rear cabin big enough to motor from Miami to Yucitan and back. Some times you do find good deals at the DEA auctions.

133 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:46:00pm

re: #116 Sharmuta

we try.... but there are so many sticks in the mud...... %-)

134 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:46:19pm

re: #126 slokat
I am so jealous. had a little 24' sloop with neato keen twin keels (for shallow draft but able to remain stiff) got sick in 1999 and had to get rid of it cause I couldn't pay the slip rental and no where else to store. WAH!

135 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:47:44pm

re: #133 redc1c4

we try.... but there are so many sticks in the mud...... %-)

He's gotten off on a bad foot, he is trying to correct that, have a little patience and see if it work.

136 Kaptain Amerika  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:47:48pm

ok everyone time to do our part...

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194264.php

137 Killian Bundy[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:47:48pm
138 doriangrey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:49:36pm
139 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:50:09pm

re: #128 jcw46

Pickens is a piker. He's only worth 3 billion. the u.s. pays more for underwater basket weaving research.


If T. Boone starts building nuke plants, I'll start taking the old man serious. But he wants to build a big wind farm,which I heard may just be a big land grab from his neighbors. What is it with greedy old bastards that just can't walk away?

The guy needs another hobby. Maybe underwater basket weaving. :>}

140 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:52:05pm

re: #135 doriangrey

He's gotten off on a bad foot, he is trying to correct that, have a little patience and see if it work.


When someone continues to keep using that "bad foot" (wrong foot is the appropriate colloquialism) all the time; that's called a bad trip and he's pulled too many folks too many times into those bad trips.

my opinion backed by nothing but a guess; doriangrey and "outdated interface" are linked somehow.

141 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:52:09pm

re: #138 doriangrey

Thats not funny killian, in fact it should be a bannable offense.

I'll take my medicine,

/but this is a moby problem

142 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:52:27pm

re: #123 x-wing

Wine is fine but whiskeys' quicker.

candy is dandy but liquor is quicker, you can drink all the liquor down in Costa Ricker..... ain't nobody's bidness but my own.

143 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:52:45pm

re: #139 x-wing

If T. Boone starts building nuke plants, I'll start taking the old man serious. But he wants to build a big wind farm,which I heard may just be a big land grab from his neighbors. What is it with greedy old bastards that just can't walk away?

The guy needs another hobby. Maybe underwater basket weaving. :>}

Maybe someone could convince him to install Vista on his computer, the time it will take him to get it running right ought to keep him occupied for at least 3 or 4 years...

144 RTLM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:53:07pm

!

145 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:53:28pm

re: #143 doriangrey

Maybe someone could convince him to install Vista on his computer, the time it will take him to get it running right ought to keep him occupied for at least 3 or 4 years...

Ouch! I hope Bill Gates didn't hear that. Vista is a boondoggle.

146 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:27pm

re: #140 jcw46

When someone continues to keep using that "bad foot" (wrong foot is the appropriate colloquialism) all the time; that's called a bad trip and he's pulled too many folks too many times into those bad trips.

my opinion backed by nothing but a guess; doriangrey and "outdated interface" are linked somehow.

You are wrong and obviously should keep your guesses to yourself. This is supposed to be a mature and civilized place, not a kos kiddie echo chamber.

147 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:54:29pm

re: #143 doriangrey

Maybe someone could convince him to install Vista on his computer, the time it will take him to get it running right ought to keep him occupied for at least 3 or 4 years...

Now THAT was funny.

148 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:55:59pm

re: #137 Killian Bundy

That's pretty funny. They say suicide is painless.

/are you sure you don't want to kill yourself?


Easy there buddy. A little much IMHO.

Isn't that "suicide is painless" part of the song that they played on M*A*S*H

149 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:56:16pm

BTW, nobody told the Democrats, but a one time surcharge on all corporate cash stashes could net $700billion easily....

150 redc1c4  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:57:14pm

re: #126 slokat

Yes, Good Eye! - it's a 36.5 foot ketch, with a roller furled 150% Genoa. Also found a red & white Spinnaker in a dousing sock, buried under a mile of rope in the sail locker.

It's a bank repo, so I'm still discovering equipment & supplies...

i'll contact my bro if you wish..... he's sailed a bit and lives in Diego.

/Dennis Conner %-)

151 RTLM  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:57:26pm

re: #149 EIDE_Interface

BTW, nobody told the Democrats, but a one time surcharge on all corporate cash stashes could net $700billion easily....

/That's a REAL good idea.

152 slokat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:58:32pm

re: #149 EIDE_Interface

Why not a one time surcharge on your personal net worth?

Makes as much sense, just a legal...

153 doriangrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:58:53pm

re: #149 EIDE_Interface

BTW, nobody told the Democrats, but a one time surcharge on all corporate cash stashes could net $700billion easily....

Sorry, I like successful corporations and rick people in general. They pay my bills and I some day aspire to be successful and somewhat well off. I dont believe in income redistribution. I believe in working hard and keeping what you earn.

154 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:59:14pm

re: #146 doriangrey

You are wrong and obviously should keep your guesses to yourself. This is supposed to be a mature and civilized place, not a kos kiddie echo chamber.


Whoa skippy. I said it was a guess. I didn't say it was fact. I don't believe I've EVER stated anything here as a fact that wasn't. I always try to be polite and if I can't be polite then I don't say anything at all UNLESS it is absolutely necessary. Where do you get off telling me what I should and should not say. How much time do YOU spend on Kos? I don't go there unless a link leads me there. not interested in flames and people being bad mannered just so someone will pay attention to them.
Now YOU'RE being a troll. Maybe you should try staying off "bad foots" too.

155 EIDE_Interface  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:59:21pm

re: #151 RTLM

/That's a REAL good idea.

That was just a thought experiment, I'm just shocked the Democrats haven't thrown it out there to get a reaction...

156 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 11:59:50pm

re: #149 EIDE_Interface

BTW, nobody told the Democrats, but a one time surcharge on all corporate cash stashes could net $700billion easily....

/gee, drive them all offshore, you can pay people to pick up the trash afterwards

157 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:00:11am

re: #150 redc1c4

i'll contact my bro if you wish..... he's sailed a bit and lives in Diego.

/Dennis Conner %-)

Your bro is Dennis Connor? As in the America's Cup Captain Dennis Connor?

158 pat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:01:14am

Let us see where Pickens' wind farms are in 10 years. We get dirt while this con man bags another billion.

159 slokat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:01:41am

re: #157 doriangrey

Your bro is Dennis Connor? As in the America's Cup Captain Dennis Connor?

Dorian beat me to the punch....

160 x-wing  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:02:28am

re: #157 doriangrey

Your bro is Dennis Connor? As in the America's Cup Captain Dennis Connor?

No, he is Sarah Connors' brother.

///

161 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:02:43am

BTW, the surcharge of corporate cash idea I've seen floated on Kos and other type of sites. The hard left is fantasizing about it.

162 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:03:44am

re: #146 doriangrey

You are wrong and obviously should keep your guesses to yourself. This is supposed to be a mature and civilized place, not a kos kiddie echo chamber.


BTW I said "linked somehow". Isn't your attempts to shield and defend the "outdated interface" a form of link? You have some reason to be concerned for his well being and acceptance here. What are those reasons? Hmmmm?
Oh an BTW it's a dead on clue of mobys when folks start telling other folks here what LGF is "supposed to be".

163 slokat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:04:20am

re: #152 slokat

Replying to my own post because I forgot the /sarc tag & wanted to make sure nobody would think I was seriously advocating a personal net worth tax.

164 Outrider  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:04:30am

re: #46 Cartman

Boy, it almost seems as if the left in this country considers the '08 elections its final assault, does it not? They seem to have spent the last eight years scouring for the vulnerable and the weak-willed amongst us, and are ready to take it to the house, so to speak. I think they're supremely confident that the media will successfully keep their egregious transgressions of the past under wraps long enough to pull off a victory in November. Time for us all to buck up, and shove their shit right back in their sanctimonious pieholes.

It is basically the medias last shot at relevancy. And it will be when McCain/Palin win.

165 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:05:17am

re: #154 jcw46

Whoa skippy. I said it was a guess. I didn't say it was fact. I don't believe I've EVER stated anything here as a fact that wasn't. I always try to be polite and if I can't be polite then I don't say anything at all UNLESS it is absolutely necessary. Where do you get off telling me what I should and should not say. How much time do YOU spend on Kos? I don't go there unless a link leads me there. not interested in flames and people being bad mannered just so someone will pay attention to them.
Now YOU'RE being a troll. Maybe you should try staying off "bad foots" too.

Considering the extremely rude nature of your "guess" I am finding it very difficult to find much in the way of veracity in your statement. Civil behavior seems to be something you need to work on.

166 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:05:22am

re: #151 RTLM

/That's a REAL good idea.


That was sarcasm? yes/no?

167 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:05:32am

re: #161 EIDE_Interface

BTW, the surcharge of corporate cash idea I've seen floated on Kos and other type of sites. The hard left is fantasizing about it.

/public corporations will simply relocate outside the United States

168 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:07:50am

re: #165 doriangrey

He's trying to bait you.

169 RTLM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:08:10am

re: #155 EIDE_Interface

That was just a thought experiment, I'm just shocked the Democrats haven't thrown it out there to get a reaction...

The Democrats will obfuscate any tangible information as to their true positions. If they said what they really want to do, what they believe, they would be laughed off.

A very large confused, bewildered, stupefied and dependent segment of the population is needed for Dems to exist.

So they just lie blatantly and consistently in order to grow and enlarge this segment.

170 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:09:06am

One thing I just dont understand, that came to me while reading something on Yahoo about the campaign clarifying Palin's comment about Putin and missiles over Alaska....

Why the hell is Palin expected to know something about foreign policy when it's CLEAR that she's strongest on domestic stuff, namely energy? Its like beating a dead horse, but where the hell is Obama's foreign policy experience? Have we forgotten that this guy is running for PRESIDENT, not VICE President? I mean, I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it's freakin' ridiculous and reading that article just got me re-aggravated.

171 pat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:09:17am

What does that mean: 'corporate cash'? Corporate means owned by many. What about basement cash? Can I have that? All the pennies that Obama people save for Saturday's pizza?

172 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:09:32am

re: #162 jcw46

BTW I said "linked somehow". Isn't your attempts to shield and defend the "outdated interface" a form of link? You have some reason to be concerned for his well being and acceptance here. What are those reasons? Hmmmm?
Oh an BTW it's a dead on clue of mobys when folks start telling other folks here what LGF is "supposed to be".

Your guesses are getting farther and farther off the mark, I suggest you stop while you are way behind. I am a Lizard in good standing with a very strong and stable reputation, something you conversely are somewhat lacking.

173 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:10:05am

re: #157 doriangrey

Your bro is Dennis Connor? As in the America's Cup Captain Dennis Connor?

bad phrasing... my bro is a nobody, as am i.
however, unlike myself, he has sailed with some famous people.

hope that helps.

red

174 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:10:49am

re: #173 redc1c4

bad phrasing... my bro is a nobody, as am i.
however, unlike myself, he has sailed with some famous people.

hope that helps.

red

Cool....

175 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:10:56am

re: #170 TheMatrix31

There's nothing in the Constitutional requirements that says the VP needs to know a thing about foreign policy. Or the President for that matter. This is a manufactured issue and it's sad people are lapping it up.

176 pat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:11:02am

re: #170 TheMatrix31

But Obama need know nothing, because the subject matter on the foreign policy debate was suddenly changed.
Hmmmm

177 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:11:57am

re: #172 doriangrey

I noticed he registered only back in June and only posted 500 comments so far.

178 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:12:04am

re: #176 pat

But Obama need know nothing, because the subject matter on the foreign policy debate was suddenly changed.
Hmmmm

Nobody cared that a couple of Southern governors knew nothing about foreign policy when they were elected.

179 x-wing  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:12:56am

re: #167 Killian Bundy

/public corporations will simply relocate outside the United States

Well, then we'll just get rid of NAFTA, and punish all those other countries that want to sell their goods here.
/ moonbat off.

We're getting all kinds of overseas companies opening up over here(Honda,Toyota) creating jobs, and the idiot left want to run them and more of our own companies right the hell out of the USA.

/but Ive never accused a lefty of being smart..

180 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:13:24am

re: #165 doriangrey
What was so "extremely rude nature" of my guess? I said it seemed that you two were linked somehow. Where's the rudeness sunshine? See if I'm going to be labeled rude then I see no point in being polite. If you can answer do so. You're entitled to your opinion of course but that doesn't make it fact. Something you and your pal should start to realize. Of course if your both trolls/mobys or sock puppets then it doesn't matter. ----- Guess what? It doesn't matter.

181 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:14:00am

re: #179 x-wing

Well, then we'll just get rid of NAFTA, and punish all those other countries that want to sell their goods here.
/ moonbat off.

We're getting all kinds of overseas companies opening up over here(Honda,Toyota) creating jobs, and the idiot left want to run them and more of our own companies right the hell out of the USA.

/but Ive never accused a lefty of being smart..

I didn't say I wanted it. It was a thought experiment. Do you ever do those?

182 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:14:03am

re: #170 TheMatrix31

because, as CinC of the AKNG, she is privy to briefings on all sorts of intel/status/forecast briefings that others might not get?

183 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:14:22am

re: #180 jcw46

What was so "extremely rude nature" of my guess? I said it seemed that you two were linked somehow. Where's the rudeness sunshine? See if I'm going to be labeled rude then I see no point in being polite. If you can answer do so. You're entitled to your opinion of course but that doesn't make it fact. Something you and your pal should start to realize. Of course if your both trolls/mobys or sock puppets then it doesn't matter. ----- Guess what? It doesn't matter.

Guess what - no link. Try harder next time.

184 pat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:14:24am

The simple answer that "I expect to concentrate on energy issues." eludes the GOP. Yet Clinton and Gore repeatedly passed of such questions to the non-participating other. Why not ask Couric if she has ever had an abortion and does she regret it? (the little social chat).

185 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:15:06am

re: #175 Sharmuta

There's nothing in the Constitutional requirements that says the VP needs to know a thing about foreign policy. Or the President for that matter. This is a manufactured issue and it's sad people are lapping it up.

Well, it would make me more comfortable if the President has foreign policy experience, but isn't the main job of the VP to sort of balance the ticket and shore up any weakness the Presidential candidate might have? McCain's strong with foreign policy so it's only natural to pick Palin who's strong on his weaknesses (age, charisma, energy, outsider, etc).

Whatever. It's just so frustrating.

186 pat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:15:27am

re: #178 Sharmuta

Absolutely true.

187 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:15:29am

re: #177 EIDE_Interface

I noticed he registered only back in June and only posted 500 comments so far.

Dont go there. I can handle myself and have no interest or intention of allowing another loyalty test/flame war to erupt just because some of my fellow lizards are a little cranky.

188 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:15:32am

re: #177 EIDE_Interface

I noticed he registered only back in June and only posted 500 comments so far.

yeah, but unlike him, you're an ashat.

notice the difference?

189 Panhandler  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:16:26am

Dang! I've been backing the wrong horse all along! The Green Party candidate reveals a sordid truth about Hurricane Katrina.

190 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:16:34am

re: #185 TheMatrix31

There's the purpose of the VP in a campaign, yes. But the role of the Vice President is to preside over the Senate and cast a tie breaking vote if need be. That's all the Constitution says is the Veep role.

191 pat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:16:36am

Later

192 slokat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:17:44am

re: #188 redc1c4

is an asshat an assgasket that has been folded into a tricorner hat?

//

193 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:18:05am

re: #190 Sharmuta

There's the purpose of the VP in a campaign, yes. But the role of the Vice President is to preside over the Senate and cast a tie breaking vote if need be. That's all the Constitution says is the Veep role.

Yeah, that's the only defined role. I don't have a problem with the role taking shape over the years, but the blatant hypocrisy is just disgusting at this point.

194 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:18:50am

re: #193 TheMatrix31

Yeah, that's the only defined role. I don't have a problem with the role taking shape over the years, but the blatant hypocrisy is just disgusting at this point.

Indeed.

195 slokat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:19:01am

re: #190 Sharmuta

and President if there becomes a vacancy...

196 Opilio  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:19:55am

re: #180 jcw46

What was so "extremely rude nature" of my guess? I said it seemed that you two were linked somehow. Where's the rudeness sunshine? See if I'm going to be labeled rude then I see no point in being polite. If you can answer do so. You're entitled to your opinion of course but that doesn't make it fact. Something you and your pal should start to realize. Of course if your both trolls/mobys or sock puppets then it doesn't matter. ----- Guess what? It doesn't matter.

I heartily recommend you disengage from this 'debate'. For the good of the thread. Let dorian and his new friend talk amongst themselves.

197 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:20:40am

any one up for a little astroturfing?
Dear MoveOn member,
This weekend, we're hosting some of our largest parties ever and we need your help to test a critical tool that volunteers will be using.

To make sure this tool is ready for the big weekend, we need to get as many people as possible to use it right now. It's super-easy to use and will really help us out.

If you have 2 minutes to spare, please pick up the phone right now and call:
(213) 221-2300

Once you make the call, you'll be asked for a page id number. Please enter:
1923 6660#

You should then enter the following information when asked:

Voter Number: 1# Call result: 70#

Voter Number: 2# Call result: 72#

Voter Number: 3# Call result: 71#

Voter Number: 4# Call result: 74#

If you have time to repeat this process a few times, please do! Just hang up and call back in.

If you get a busy signal when you call, just wait a moment and try again.
i say we do exactly what they say we should, for as long as we can.

phone time isn't cheap.

/make them pay...... %-)

198 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:21:23am

re: #180 jcw46

What was so "extremely rude nature" of my guess? I said it seemed that you two were linked somehow. Where's the rudeness sunshine? See if I'm going to be labeled rude then I see no point in being polite. If you can answer do so. You're entitled to your opinion of course but that doesn't make it fact. Something you and your pal should start to realize. Of course if your both trolls/mobys or sock puppets then it doesn't matter. ----- Guess what? It doesn't matter.

Accusing people of things you know nothing about is extremely rude. Attempting to make someone assert that they are not a troll or moby is is a very disingenuous and intellectually dishonest thing to do when you clearly know nothing about them. At this point you even pretending that you were anything other than rude is just plain dishonest.

199 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:22:37am

re: #197 redc1c4

What is this for?

200 Outrider  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:22:43am

re: #189 Panhandler

Dang! I've been backing the wrong horse all along! The Green Party candidate reveals a sordid truth about Hurricane Katrina.

Wow. All her oars ain't in the water. Hell, her boat has run aground long time back.

On behalf of Savannah I should probably apologize and say she is an anomaly, but it would be a lie because there are soooo many more just like her here.

201 x-wing  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:25:35am

re: #189 Panhandler

Dang! I've been backing the wrong horse all along! The Green Party candidate reveals a sordid truth about Hurricane Katrina.

Whoo-boy. I was gonna call it a night,but now I need anither beer.

Why wont' this anti-semetic, race baiting hag just go away. Dems. and former moonbats drive me crazy.

I remember her re-election when it took pubbies to cross over in the primaries to take her out. Boy that was sweeeeet!

202 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:25:59am

re: #196 Opilio

I heartily recommend you disengage from this 'debate'. For the good of the thread. Let dorian and his new friend talk amongst themselves.

I have had the very good fortune in having some very fine Lizards teach me how to behave in a civil and respectful manner here. My "new friend" as you put it, is someone who I think needs exactly that same kind of help to become a good lizard. It's called giving back to the community that you belong to.

203 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:26:03am

re: #196 Opilio
I concur.

204 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:26:05am

re: #199 Sharmuta

What is this for?

Obanal's SoCal phone netw*rk..... request for support.

call it ECM...... or ELINT in action. the more you call, the more it costs them.

205 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:26:44am

re: #204 redc1c4

Beautiful!

206 Opilio  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:27:21am

re: #195 slokat

and President if there becomes a vacancy...

Did you all know that for about 40 of our constitution's 219 years, the office of the Vice Presidency of the United States was vacant? Most recent extended period was Nov 1963 - Jan. 1965.

207 RTLM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:28:14am

Re: the Dear Obama Sing Along and Hand Gestures creepy video.

208 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:28:16am

I love how red thinks.

209 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:29:13am

re: #205 Sharmuta

Beautiful!

i'm an a55hole, but i have my moments....... anyone with nationwide LD calling can chime in: (213) 221-2300 or even just call and let it rumble.......

210 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:29:18am

re: #198 doriangrey

I'm beginning to understand. The key is to not ever respond to the flame bait no matter how much you want to.

211 Outrider  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:29:18am

re: #204 redc1c4

Obanal's SoCal phone netw*rk..... request for support.

call it ECM...... or ELINT in action. the more you call, the more it costs them.

ELINT? Not so much. Electronic deception. Jam 'em Danno!

212 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:30:01am

re: #204 redc1c4

Obanal's SoCal phone netw*rk..... request for support.

call it ECM...... or ELINT in action. the more you call, the more it costs them.

Cant say I approve of astroturfing, but then again this doesn't actually sound like astroturfing.... More like messin with Sasquatch...

213 Opilio  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:31:26am

re: #209 redc1c4

i'm an a55hole, but i have my moments....... anyone with nationwide LD calling can chime in: (213) XXX-XXXX or even just call and let it rumble.......

I think phone numbers are verboten on LGF

214 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:31:46am

re: #204 redact

Annal's Scala phone netw*rk..... request for support.

call it ECM...... or EL INT in action. the more you call, the more it costs them.

/I don't suppose you'd care to describe the potential interaction of President Obama and the NRO surveillance regime

215 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:33:54am

re: #210 EIDE_Interface

I'm beginning to understand. The key is to not ever respond to the flame bait no matter how much you want to.

It's more than that, it's to remember that Lizards are good people for the most part. People who you genuinely would enjoy having over to your house for dinner or a BBQ. It's about remembering that they deserve to be treated with respect and civility just like you would treat your personal friends that you see every day. Because ultimately that is exactly what they are.

216 Outrider  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:34:18am

re: #214 Killian Bundy

/I don't suppose you'd care to describe the potential interaction of President Obama and the NRO surveillance regime

Harumph! Bet he can't even spell NRO, much less be aware of it's mission and role in the intelligence arena.

217 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:34:48am

People end up dead.

/Presidential findings

218 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:34:52am

re: #213 Opilio

I think phone numbers are verboten on LGF

Bannable offense if Stinky notices...

219 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:34:53am

re: #213 Opilio

I think phone numbers are verboten on LGF

personal ones..... these are aren't mine, and are available on the web because the owners released them into the ether on purpose.

220 Outrider  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:36:21am

re: #219 redc1c4

personal ones..... these are aren't mine, and are available on the web because the owners released them into the ether on purpose.

I think Charles stated the other day it was because phone numbers change, but the archives are always here. Just my .02 worth

221 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:37:18am

re: #215 doriangrey

It's more than that, it's to remember that Lizards are good people for the most part. People who you genuinely would enjoy having over to your house for dinner or a BBQ. It's about remembering that they deserve to be treated with respect and civility just like you would treat your personal friends that you see every day. Because ultimately that is exactly what they are.

Not all of them, as evidence on this thread. I hope you mean a certain subset.

222 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:37:33am

re: #218 doriangrey

Bannable offense if Stinky notices...

No it's not. It will get deleted, but it's not bannable.

223 slokat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:37:46am

I'm off to sleep... Red - I'll keep you informed on the sail date.

224 Outrider  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:38:42am

Do we have any certain subsets on this thread? Curious. C'mon, don't be bashful. Step up and admit it.

225 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:38:52am

re: #223 slokat

deal..... i'll give you a call..

226 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:42:04am

re: #221 EIDE_Interface

Not all of them, as evidence on this thread. I hope you mean a certain subset.

Well we get our share of sleepers and trolls and mobys, but you can usually spot them by their low post count. No, even the majority of those who have been on your ass are genuinely good and decent people. Sharmuta and MandyManners are two very wonderful Lizardetts.

227 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:45:08am

re: #222 Sharmuta

No it's not. It will get deleted, but it's not bannable.

My bad perhaps.

228 rednaxela  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:45:13am

The point about VP (or for that matter presidential) credentials is not knowledge but instincts.

These people have 100 advisers around them at any given moment. Who cares what the name of the prime minister of wherever is. Who cares about the names of SCOTUS cases or whatever.

What matters is that the person making the decision has good instincts and I have no doubt that Sarah Palin has better instincts than any of the other three candidates. Now if only she were allowed to run with them and not be gagged by these awful Bush minders she's been assigned.

For one thing, I am sure that if she were allowed to speak her mind she would dismiss this $$$ bailout BS without hesitation.

229 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:47:14am

re: #224 Outrider

Do we have any certain subsets on this thread? Curious. C'mon, don't be bashful. Step up and admit it.

Well we do have at least one that I am aware of.... That being the nearly practically almost Rock Star sub-set. Which of course would be me, and maybe a couple other undercover nearly practically almost Rock Star Lizards.... ;p

230 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:50:31am

ok made my morning must see video

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

231 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:51:10am

re: #228 rednaxela

Which is why I am very interested in seeing who the advisors are.

re: #229 doriangrey

Don't forget us doo-wappers!

232 rednaxela  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:55:07am

re: #231 littleoldlady

Which is why I am very interested in seeing who the advisors are.

Absolutely right. Lets see who they are and lets compare them to Barry's.

I would like to see people like John Bolton back on board and also people like Thomas Sowell in their.

Sure beats Bill Ayers, Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines.

233 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:58:21am

re: #231 littleoldlady

Which is why I am very interested in seeing who the advisors are.

re: #229 doriangrey

Don't forget us doo-wappers!

even *you* will want to forget these

234 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 12:58:41am

... and if the TV says "from Wall Street to Main Street" one more time, something's gonna get broken.

235 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:02:09am

re: #232 rednaxela

Lie Down with Dogs, Wake Up with Fleas

But who are those associations that, as an American and especially as a Jew, I am so worried about? Obama’s 300-plus foreign policy advisors include high-ranking people who are known for their undisguised contempt of Jews, in general, and their loathing of Israel, in particular:

General Merrill "Tony" McPeak, who Sen. Obama once considered a potential V.P., was his campaign co-chairman and top military adviser. When asked by The Oregonian to name the problem preventing peace in the Middle East, McPeak said: "New York City. Miami” – code-names for Jews. Obama refused to remove him from his campaign, but he slunk out anyway.

Samantha Power, a former senior policy advisor to Obama (before she resigned for insulting Hillary Clinton) has advocated ending all U.S. military aid to Israel. She has written of her willingness to “alienate a domestic constituency of tremendous political and financial import [American Jews]…it may more crucially mean sacrificing…billions of dollars, not in servicing Israel’s military, but actually investing in the state of Palestine.”

Robert Malley, a top foreign policy advisor to Obama, left the Obama campaign when it was revealed that he'd been conducting meetings with Hamas. Two years ago, after the terror group won a majority in the Palestinian parliament, Malley advocated international aid to their newly formed government. He stated that the election of Hamas expressed Palestinian "anger at years of humiliation and loss of self-respect because of Israeli settlement expansion, Arafat's imprisonment, [and] Israel's incursions…”

Rashid Khalidi, a longtime friend of and fundraiser for Obama, is a former spokesman for the Palestine Liberation Organization. According to WorldNetDaily, at a 2003 farewell party for Mr. Khalidi, Obama sat in attendance as a young Palestinian-American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism…and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. Obama has credited Mr. Khalidi with uncovering "my own blind spots and my own biases" regarding the plight of the Palestinians. Obama funneled $75,000 in grants to the Arab American Action Network (run by Mr. Khalidi's wife, Mona), a group that calls Israel's independence Al-Nakba (the catastrophe).

Anthony “Tony” Lake, Obama’s top foreign policy advisor, served in the Carter ("Israel practices apartheid") administration, notorious for its animus toward Israel. As national security advisor to President Clinton, Lake shaped the policy that treated Islamic terrorism as a law-enforcement matter, which paved the way for the first World Trade Center bombing, the bombing of our embassies in Africa, the bombing of the USS Cole, and the disaster of September 11, 2001.

Susan Rice, another of Obama’s senior foreign policy advisors, was John Kerry's chief foreign policy adviser when he ran for President. Kerry’s idea for dealing with the Middle East was to appoint not one but two diehard enemies of Israel – James Baker and Jimmy Carter – as negotiators. Faced with a firestorm of criticism, Kerry backed down and blamed his staff, which consisted of Susan Rice.

Madeleine K. Albright, Clinton’s Secretary of State, lobbied Congress for increased foreign aid to the terrorist Arafat and arranged for him to become the White House’s most frequent guest. She consistently touted negotiations, rather than confrontation, with terror regimes.


Continued...

236 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:03:50am

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter’s National Security Advisor, has been one of Israel’s most consistently hostile critics and Hamas’s most ardent supporters, as well as a staunch admirer (both in writing and verbally) of Stephen Walt’s and John Mearsheimer’s virulently anti-Israel book, “The Israel Lobby,” which, among other things, contends that Jewish pressure, and not shared values, binds America and Israel together. Brzezinski's son, Mark, is also among Obama's foreign policy advisors.

Lee Hamilton, a former congressman who served as the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on the Middle East, waxed adoringly of Arafat, calling him a “moderate” leader.

James {“F… the Jews”) Baker, Reagan’s former Chief of Staff and the first President Bush’s Secretary of State (a department whose Arabist tilt is well-known), is among the harshest detractors of Israel, has often engaged in raw anti-Semitic remarks, is known for coddling Middle East dictators (including Syria’s Assad), and has been heavily invested (through the Carlyle Group) in the Israel-hating country of Saudi Arabia. In fact, Baker’s law firm defended the Saudi Defense Minister who was sued for alleged complicity by the families of the World Trade Center victims.

Daniel Kurtzer, a former U.S. Ambassador to Israel, was one of James Baker’s “Jew Boys,” which included, among others who militated against Israel, Dennis Ross (of the Clinton administration). Kurtzer recently said: "It will be impossible to make progress on serious peace talks without putting the future of Jerusalem on the table."

And this is the short list!

237 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:05:33am

re: #233 redc1c4

My daughter in first grade with a bunch of her friends for the school talent show.

/same song
//same costumes
///same idea - almost! ;-)

238 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:09:13am

Anyway, COD4 multiplayer has multiple series of challenges including "Elite" which is pretty much do the impossible.

/just tallied "Collateral Damage" which is "Kill 2 or more enemy with a single sniper rifle bullet", I would like to thank the Barrett .50

239 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:10:20am

re: #237 littleoldlady

that's different, and cute...

240 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:13:25am

re: #239 redc1c4

Cute, yes.

/except the way a couple of those girls did the routine we (moms) were afraid we'd get arrested for promoting lewd and lascivious behavior by 7 year olds...

241 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:13:29am

re: #233 redc1c4

even *you* will want to forget these

What THE hell was that? ROFL

/hi Red :)

re: #237 littleoldlady

My daughter in first grade with a bunch of her friends for the school talent show.

/same song
//same costumes
///same idea - almost! ;-)

Ok now that would be cute. :) But that video. Yikes. Although, my daughter wants to go 80s for Halloween this year, I should show that vid to her. Lord knows I'm not showing her a Madonna video. :X

/are you here early or am I late? lol

242 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:14:52am

We should all buy this shirt and wear it on the same day. Just so we can recognize other lizards. LOL

243 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:15:04am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Cute, yes.

/except the way a couple of those girls did the routine we (moms) were afraid we'd get arrested for promoting lewd and lascivious behavior by 7 year olds...

being an old,spoken for, guy, i'd say better you than me.

244 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:15:04am

re: #241 gop_patriot

gop! :-)

Woke up at 1 am :-(

/you would think that I'd get something done getting up at that time...but NO.

How's by you?

246 Three Hundred  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:24:14am

"It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved."

If only it were that easy. None of us knows anything about any of the rest of us, except what we decide to show.

buwaaaahaaa!

247 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:25:26am

re: #245 Sharmuta

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

Bwahahahaha!

Down, down, down, down doobie, oobie, ooo!

/doo-wap!

248 Three Hundred  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:26:14am

re: #245 Sharmuta

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

Bwahahahaha!

..was not intending to copy your evil laugh, Sharmuta. Just coincidence.

249 littleO  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:30:25am

I would have hoped for some inciteful analysisof the bailout plan. Or, perhaps, strategy for turning this election around. But, noooo

250 itellu3times  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:33:00am

re: #47 slokat

Was trying to post a pic to one of the reasons I wasn't around. Just bought the "Wind Tamer" at bank auction.
[Link: slokat.com...]

Way to go, slocat! That's about what, a forty-something foot yawl?

251 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:34:52am

re: #245 Sharmuta

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

Bwahahahaha!

Sweet..................................

252 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:38:13am

re: #244 littleoldlady

Sorry to hear you didn't get your rest tonight. I've been up IMing with a friend while we messed around with our Facebook pages. Dorky.

Now I'm just all hyper and can't sleep yet- otherwise I'm great. :)

253 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:39:41am

re: #245 Sharmuta

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

Bwahahahaha!

HA! Serves the b*st*rds right. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, MSM.

254 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:42:20am

re: #248 Three Hundred

It's all good!

255 itellu3times  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:44:33am

re: #250 itellu3times

sloKat ... I see, 36.5 foot ketch, nice. Do you have time for it, much less money? I guess so. And expertise. I was never more than a day sailor, and haven't floated so much as a tea cup in years, but oh the dreams!

256 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:47:33am

re: #226 doriangrey

Well we get our share of sleepers and trolls and mobys, but you can usually spot them by their low post count.

BTW;
"outmoded interface" comments in Pat Condell: Welcome to Saudi Britain thread concerning Sharia: approx 90
Number of down dings for those comments: approx 130

Doriangrey comments in Pat Condell: Welcome to Saudi Britain thread (mostly defending "outmoded interface" and attacking anyone else who thought "outmoded_interface" was an a$$hat): approx 34
Number of down dings for those comments: approx 7

jcw46 comments pointing out in Pat Condell: Welcome to Saudi Britain thread "outmoded interface" pov was located in his rectal area: approx 13
number of down dings = 0
number of up dings = 4

So maybe I don't have a large number of comments (although my average per day so far is 2.5 which more than "outmoded interface"s average per day since they've been registered.)
At least generally my comments are more in line with rational thinking lizards here. I'll take that over YOUR opinion any day doriengrey.

Anyone remember the scene from "South Park" where they did a video of cartman talking to his dolls at a make believe tea party?
Reminds me of the "conversation" between doriangrey and "outmoded_interface" doncha think? (now I made NO accusations or claims of fact now did I?) you want rude? I can do rude.

257 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:52:18am

re: #246 Three Hundred

"It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved."

If only it were that easy. None of us knows anything about any of the rest of us, except what we decide to show.

buwaaaahaaa!

From Clavell's Shogun:
They say that all men have three hearts, A false heart in his mouth for all the world to see, a second in his breast for his special friends and family and his real one, his true one which is known to him alone.

258 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

259 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:00:19am

re: #258 littleoldlady

Thank you!

260 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:02:53am

Sharmuta! :-)

261 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:02:54am

I'm only 20, but I could use some alcohol in that cup.

Hey, only 2 more months till my 21st birthday ;)

262 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:05:52am

re: #261 TheMatrix31

I'm not working the bar tonight. Sorry! But Happy Birthday in advance! :-)

263 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:06:11am

Did I miss anything?

264 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:06:59am

re: #258 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Okay. After 4 months I gotta ask; what's with the "fruitcup on the buffet"? If someone would be so kind as to give me a brief synopsis I would be most grateful.

265 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:07:29am

re: #262 littleoldlady

I'm not working the bar tonight. Sorry! But Happy Birthday in advance! :-)

Bush v. Gore was decided on my birthday back in 2000, so it was a good 13th!

266 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:08:33am

re: #263 Fenway_Nation

Did I miss anything?

Oh, nothing, just that the moderator for the VP debate is a pro-Obama hack who's writing a book about him slated to be released on his inauguration day.

It was the main headline on Drudge, don't know if it is anymore.

267 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:09:07am

re: #264 jcw46

It's tradition. Go on- give it a ding. You know you want to.

268 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:09:49am

re: #260 littleoldlady

Sharmuta! :-)

{lol}! I'm going to put that in my favorites to cheer me up on days when I might need it.

269 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:11:27am

Have you guys seen this weeks cover of Entertainment Weekly?

Call the Truth Squad!

270 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:12:39am

re: #266 TheMatrix31

Oh, nothing, just that the moderator for the VP debate is a pro-Obama hack who's writing a book about him slated to be released on his inauguration day.

It was the main headline on Drudge, don't know if it is anymore.

It should also be noted that due to the way the book was written and is being promoted, if Obama loses the sales probably won't be too good. Ergo: the moderator has a substantial financial motive for Obama (and therefore Biden) to look as good as possible and Palin not so much.

I gotta say this; she's got her work cut out for her. (the moderator AND Sarah).

271 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:13:12am

re: #258 littleoldlady

Yay! Thank you! :)

272 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:14:34am

re: #261 TheMatrix31

I'm only 20, but I could use some alcohol in that cup.

Hey, only 2 more months till my 21st birthday ;)

Hmm. It would seem as though Red's gone home, but if he's here I'm sure he'd oblige. :)

273 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:16:38am
Sept. 16, found melamine in 69 milk powder batches. Dozens of brands sold by more than a score of dairy firms, including some of China's biggest names, have been among those tested.
Melamine can cause kidney stones, leading to kidney failure. Infants are particularly vulnerable.
Levels of melamine discovered in batches tested varied widely, from as much as 6,196 milligrams per kilogram to as little 1.3 milligrams per kilogram. Chinese health officials have said no harm comes from consuming less than 0.63 milligrams per kilogram.


Thats a relief,
We can always trust the Chinese health officials.

/

274 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:16:53am

re: #264 jcw46

Darned if I remember! ;-)

275 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:17:16am

re: #261 TheMatrix31

I'm only 20, but I could use some alcohol in that cup.

Hey, only 2 more months till my 21st birthday ;)

Then you can't have any, you're too young. Now charge that hill and die for your country.

276 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:18:52am

re: #270 jcw46

It should also be noted that due to the way the book was written and is being promoted, if Obama loses the sales probably won't be too good. Ergo: the moderator has a substantial financial motive for Obama (and therefore Biden) to look as good as possible and Palin not so much.

I gotta say this; she's got her work cut out for her. (the moderator AND Sarah).

Good point. Well, if they "unleash" Palin like there are rumblings suggesting as such(there are those rumblings, right?), then I think the world is in for a surprise. People have only seen the interviews and speeches she's had on a national level, but no one has seemingly ever watched her speak acting as governor of AK.

277 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:25:02am

re: #245 Sharmuta

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

Bwahahahaha!


I'd love to see Rush buy a network or the NY Times. You'd hear the screams on Mars.

278 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:30:13am

re: #277 Rancher

I'd love to see Rush buy a network or the NY Times. You'd hear the screams on Mars.


There'd definitely be a "disturbance in the Force. It was if a million voices cried out at once".

:>

279 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:30:44am

re: #256 jcw46

BTW;
I can do rude.

I think everyone reading this is already well aware of that. Should we judge you by the comments in this thread alone, well it seems you are capable of little else.

I must say I am quite impressed with the amount of energy you put into that little diatribe of yours. Looking up all that information just to prove your e-penis is bigger than mine. I also had something like 5 updings. Oh.....Five up seven down...... Again you make guesses about things you really dont have any idea what you are talking about. Just as a for instances here, five of those seven down dings were from Sharmuta, funny thing is, Sharmuta and I actually get along quite well. But you obviously dont know this.

What you, in what appears to be a consistent habit (intellicaully dishonest), didnt bother noticing or pointing out here in your little screed was that I had more individual comments with only Updings than I did with only down dings. Funny how that works eh...

Furthermore, judging for the amount of obvious anger you are pouring out here, I would actually guess that you are less in line with rational thinking lizards here then you realize and far more like a kos kiddy or a huff and puffer.

I spent the better part of that thread attempting to get people to act in a civil mature manner. You are spending the better part of your time in this thread proving that you don't have to act in a civil or mature manner. In fact, based on the amount of energy you have spent digging up information that you rather obviously failed to grasp the meaning of, the only thing you seem to be proving is that you would rather engage in flaming people you know nothing about, than actually engage in any type of civil discussion.

That pretty much guarantees that you are less in line with rational thinking lizards here than you imagine.

280 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:31:53am

re: #277 Rancher

I'd love to see Rush buy a network or the NY Times. You'd hear the screams on Mars.

If I died then the mortician'd have to use sandpaper to wipe the smile off my face.

281 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:32:59am

Bait, hook, line, sinker.

282 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:34:10am

re: #277 Rancher

I'd love to see Rush buy a network or the NY Times. You'd hear the screams on Mars.

ROTFLMAO............................You're really Karl Rove aren't you......................You magnificent bastard......

283 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:34:15am

re: #277 Rancher

I'd love to see Rush buy a network or the NY Times. You'd hear the screams on Mars.

That would be funny, but a loss of influence and possibly prestige for Rush. He has more listeners than many of these stinking msm outlets has readers or viewers.

The msm is toast. The new media is here to stay.

284 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:34:16am

From the People's Cube YouTube channel:

Children Sing Hymns To Obama

Goes along with what people here have been saying today.
From the sidebar:

Based on the real Obama-cult song recorded by children who were manipulated into supporting a presidential candidate based on feelings

285 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:36:16am

re: #281 jcw46

Bait, hook, line, sinker.

That is generally defined as troll behavior. Looks like you have exposed yourself.

286 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:39:52am

jcw46 & dorian- I don't recall telling either of you what to think. This is unauthorized verbiage, so stop it now.

The clique commander has spoken. ;p

287 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:44:09am

re: #286 Sharmuta

jcw46 & dorian- I don't recall telling either of you what to think. This is unauthorized verbiage, so stop it now.

The clique commander has spoken. ;p

Dont make me turn my government mind control ray device on you............

288 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:44:28am

You know the language but you put it together awkwardly and not fluently. You have the vocabulary but use the wrong words for what you seem to be saying. You read but don't comprehend nor know what the words actually mean. Your interpretation is a function of what you "feel" was said, not what was actually said. You also have spent a lot of time over someone that you claim is so insignificant compared to your self-assumed immensity.
Some of the shots coming too close? More likely dead on.

289 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:44:59am

Good morning, Lizards...are we fighting already? :>)

290 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:46:26am

re: #289 scottishbuzzsaw

Morning, Scotti. Things blew up on the Pat Condell thread, and have carried over. I'm sure the moby will be thrilled to see decent Lizards fighting amongst themselves over him.

291 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:46:36am

Try to go back to sleep or get something done? Decisions, Decisions...

Good day, ALL!

292 jcw46  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:47:43am

re: #285 doriangrey

That is generally defined as troll behavior. Looks like you have exposed yourself.

Was I addressing you? Hmm. My, your assumption pump is working overtime.

293 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:50:23am

My conjunction function's working overtime.

294 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:50:37am

re: #289 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, Lizards...are we fighting already? :>)

Good morning cuttie pie.... Well I went to the Oral Surgeon, now I'm all whacked out on vicadin and cant sleep....

295 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:50:44am

re: #291 littleoldlady

Me too. Think I'll have some of those Cranky Flakes, if you don't mind sharing? :/

See y'all later, I'm finally tired. LOL Have a good day Lizards.

296 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:54:02am

re: #290 Sharmuta

Morning, Scotti. Things blew up on the Pat Condell thread, and have carried over. I'm sure the moby will be thrilled to see decent Lizards fighting amongst themselves over him.

Ah, that's too bad...{Sharmuta}

297 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:55:00am

re: #294 doriangrey

Good morning cuttie pie.... Well I went to the Oral Surgeon, now I'm all whacked out on vicadin and cant sleep....

Mornin' luv, I was wondering what you were doing up this early...did the surgery go well?

298 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 2:56:55am

re: #297 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' luv, I was wondering what you were doing up this early...did the surgery go well?

Yea, but my mouth is pretty sore, or would be were it not for the drugs.... It's still kind of sore even with them... yikes....

299 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:00:08am

re: #293 Fenway_Nation

My conjunction function's working overtime.

Is it painful? ;>)

300 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:01:09am

WOW! They're going to talk about the moderator on F&F! Awesome!

301 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:02:13am

re: #299 scottishbuzzsaw

Is it painful? ;>)

Not quite, but it's been doing this for more than four hours. Should I go ahead and call my doctor?

302 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:05:06am

re: #298 doriangrey

Yea, but my mouth is pretty sore, or would be were it not for the drugs.... It's still kind of sore even with them... yikes....

I've had alot of dental work/surgery...I don't think there's a drug around that completely suppresses mouth pain...*shiver*...want some coffee with your Bailey's?

303 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:07:48am

re: #302 scottishbuzzsaw

I've had alot of dental work/surgery...I don't think there's a drug around that completely suppresses mouth pain...*shiver*...want some coffee with your Bailey's?

Alcohol with vicadin.... Ummm I'll pass on that one..... Probably shouldn't even have any coffee since I still havent been to bed yet and have been up since 5am yesterday morning. OK so maybe that little nap in the surgeons chair counted for something...... ;)

304 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:10:24am

re: #301 Fenway_Nation

Not quite, but it's been doing this for more than four hours. Should I go ahead and call my doctor?

LOL! Perhaps that would be wise.

How did the BoSox do this year? I'm a New Englander transplanted to MO and have been cheering the Cards (required to live here in peace - what a sports town!). Now that they're done for the year I need another team to root for...would be nice if it could be my first love...

305 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:11:05am

Good Morning. On FNC, they are talking about Gwen Ifel's conflict of interest as tonights debate moderator.
This is really outrageous, in light of her vested interest in a Palin loss.

306 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:12:42am

re: #303 doriangrey

Alcohol with vicadin.... Ummm I'll pass on that one..... Probably shouldn't even have any coffee since I still havent been to bed yet and have been up since 5am yesterday morning. OK so maybe that little nap in the surgeons chair counted for something...... ;)


Uh, dorian...go to bed before you drop...

307 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:13:37am

re: #304 scottishbuzzsaw


Boston goes to the west coast against the Angels tonight for game one of the American League division series.

308 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:14:14am

re: #305 opnion

Wait- the debate's tonight? I thought it was Thursday.

309 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:15:53am

re: #306 scottishbuzzsaw

Uh, dorian...go to bed before you drop...

Side effect of the vicadin, I cant sleep............

310 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:15:57am

re: #308 Sharmuta

Wait- the debate's tonight? I thought it was Thursday.

No, it's Thursday night.

311 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:17:08am

Ok, the field of eight set for the MLB playoffs.
White Sox defeat the Twins last night in a one game play in.
They had to defeat three seperate teams in three games to get in.
With the Sox & Cubs both in, Chicago has two teams in the post season for the 1st team in over 100 years.
A Sox/Cubs World Series would would rock the town.

312 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:18:37am

re: #308 Sharmuta

Wait- the debate's tonight? I thought it was Thursday.

Ok, that was a quiz, you won. Yup , I'm wrong, it is Thursday.

313 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:18:57am

re: #305 opnion

Good Morning. On FNC, they are talking about Gwen Ifel's conflict of interest as tonights debate moderator.
This is really outrageous, in light of her vested interest in a Palin loss.

Fox may be promoting the story on their radio news as well, according to Jeff S.'s comment on the previous thread.

314 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:20:48am

re: #312 opnion

Ok, that was a quiz, you won. Yup , I'm wrong, it is Thursday.

Woohoo! What did I win?

315 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:20:52am

re: #309 doriangrey

Side effect of the vicadin, I cant sleep............

Well, that sucks...

316 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:21:41am

re: #305 opnion

Good Morning. On FNC, they are talking about Gwen Ifel's conflict of interest as tonights debate moderator.
This is really outrageous, in light of her vested interest in a Palin loss.

Forgive my ignorance...what is her vested interest?

317 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:22:50am

She's writing a Probama book scheduled to be released around inauguration day...

318 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:22:58am

re: #309 doriangrey

Side effect of the vicadin, I cant sleep............

MWHA!

319 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:23:51am

re: #309 doriangrey

Side effect of the vicadin, I cant sleep............

I've never had that problem with vicoden. I wish I'd known earlier that you were hopped up with no sleep. Things make more sense now.

320 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:24:17am

re: #314 Sharmuta

Woohoo! What did I win?

I hope that your sitting down. You have won a mint condition, 1969 Ford Maverick. You will now be the envy of the neighborhood.

321 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:24:26am

re: #269 Sharmuta

Have you guys seen this weeks cover of Entertainment Weekly?

Call the Truth Squad!

The New Yorker cover? Not so funny.

Entertainment Weekly doing it as a spoof, with two white liberal guys playing the 0bamas? Now that's funny!

322 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:25:45am

re: #316 scottishbuzzsaw

Forgive my ignorance...what is her vested interest?

Gwen Ifel wrote a book that is being released right after the election. It is titled “Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.” If Obama losses the election, the book goes right straight into the shredders.

323 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:26:34am

re: #318 goddessoftheclassroom

MWHA!

Good morning Goddess....((goddess))

324 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:27:08am

re: #321 Dar ul Harb

The New Yorker cover? Not so funny.

Entertainment Weekly doing it as a spoof, with two white liberal guys playing the 0bamas? Now that's funny!

What I think is funny is it obviously reminds the reader of the New Yorker cover and that will remind people of just how little we know this 0bama guy.

Also- can I fill in for Gwen? I *promise* I'll be nice to Joe.

325 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:27:33am

re: #316 scottishbuzzsaw

Forgive my ignorance...what is her vested interest?

She wrote a book about high achieving African Americans.
Surprise, Obama is one of the four. The book is set for release around inauguration. An Obama win will gin up sales.

326 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:28:19am

re: #320 opnion

I hope that your sitting down. You have won a mint condition, 1969 Ford Maverick. You will now be the envy of the neighborhood.

Crap. How about we elect a maverick instead?

327 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:30:54am

re: #326 Sharmuta

Crap. How about we elect a maverick instead?

Multi task. Elect a Maverick & take delivery of this fine Maverick automobile. Trust me ,driving this vintage beauty, you will drive the neighbors crazy with envy.

328 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:32:03am

re: #317 TheMatrix31

re: #322 doriangrey

re: #325 opnion

I wish I could say that I'm shocked at her being chosen...unfortunately, I appear to have gone numb...

329 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:33:00am

re: #323 doriangrey

Good morning Goddess....((goddess))

May I ask why you're taking Vicodan? That worries me even more...When I shattered my wrist several years ago, Oxyconton kept me going.

330 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:34:05am

re: #328 scottishbuzzsaw

re: #322 doriangrey

re: #325 opnion

I wish I could say that I'm shocked at her being chosen...unfortunately, I appear to have gone numb...

Yeah, they almost all lean left, but a financial interest is a whole new low.

331 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:36:04am

Good morning Lizards. Since we are talking medicine, I am in urgent need of some help in that area. No matter how hard I try, I cannot get that "Sing for Obama" song out of my head. I was in the shower last night thinking/singing "Yes we can can can." Help!

Btw, I fell asleep before the segment came on Hannity, did anyone see it?

332 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:37:00am

re: #324 Sharmuta

Also- can I fill in for Gwen? I *promise* I'll be nice to Joe.

That would be a debate worth watching, sweetie...

333 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:38:54am

This is a little disturbing. I live in a Red area In a Blue state, Illinois & there are more Obama yard signs than McCain.
Some complaints that the McCain signs are hard to get & McCain/Palin signs are next to impossible to get.
You know Illinois is a lost cause this election, so that may be why.

334 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:41:41am

re: #333 opnion

This is a little disturbing. I live in a Red area In a Blue state, Illinois & there are more Obama yard signs than McCain.
Some complaints that the McCain signs are hard to get & McCain/Palin signs are next to impossible to get.
You know Illinois is a lost cause this election, so that may be why.

Why are the signs/stickers difficult to get?

335 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:41:50am

re: #329 goddessoftheclassroom

May I ask why you're taking Vicodan? That worries me even more...When I shattered my wrist several years ago, Oxyconton kept me going.

Oral surgery yesterday. Lots of stitches in my mouth today.

336 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:46:12am

re: #334 MandyManners

Why are the signs/stickers difficult to get?


They are under supplied at the local Repub headquarters.
A friend of mine who is on the RNC is going to drive to Iowa to get some.
We actually got an email from the McCain Illinois campaign offering to sell McCain/Palin signs. I guess that Illinois is not really being contested, but as we know, if a Republican doesn't get a good popular vote, the Democrats say that the election is illegitimate.

337 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:49:13am

re: #335 doriangrey

Oral surgery yesterday. Lots of stitches in my mouth today.

{doriangrey}

I hope you're feeling better soon.

338 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:49:42am

re: #332 scottishbuzzsaw

Senator Biden- why did you vote to approve funds for that "bridge to nowhere" twice and not divert those funds to Katrina relief?

Governor Palin- how quickly would you move to "drill, baby, drill"?

339 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:51:55am

re: #336 opnion

They are under supplied at the local Repub headquarters.
A friend of mine who is on the RNC is going to drive to Iowa to get some.
We actually got an email from the McCain Illinois campaign offering to sell McCain/Palin signs. I guess that Illinois is not really being contested, but as we know, if a Republican doesn't get a good popular vote, the Democrats say that the election is illegitimate.

So, just lie down and give up?

340 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:54:22am

re: #339 MandyManners

So, just lie down and give up?


Mandy, I don't know if they are exactly doing that here, but I guess that they feel that Illinois is a lost cause. I still think that they need to gin up the popular vote.
All of the Obama signs really piss me off.

341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:54:39am

Yawn. G'morning.

342 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:57:19am

Got to run--have a great day!

343 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:57:34am

On Fox, Napolitano said that there will be a rock concert for BHO at Ohio State after which the attendees will be ushered to voting booths.

344 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:58:36am

Fox has the Ifill story.

345 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:58:53am

re: #341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yawn. G'morning.

Good morning FBV...........

346 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:59:28am

re: #343 MandyManners

On Fox, Napolitano said that there will be a rock concert for BHO at Ohio State after which the attendees will be ushered to voting booths.

They are grabbing kids out of bars in Ohio & driving them to vote.
Hey if you are too drunk to drive, maybe you are too drunk to vote.

347 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 3:59:59am

re: #343 MandyManners

On Fox, Napolitano said that there will be a rock concert for BHO at Ohio State after which the attendees will be ushered to voting booths.

Will they be allowed to 'pull the lever' themselves, or will that be done for them too...damn.

348 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:00:17am

re: #340 opnion

Did you hear that Bloomberg's gonna' try to get around NYC's term limits to run for a third term? As I was getting out of the car yesterday, I heard someone on NPR say that he says he should stay due to the financial crisis. Huh?

349 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:00:37am

re: #343 MandyManners

On Fox, Napolitano said that there will be a rock concert for BHO at Ohio State after which the attendees will be ushered to voting booths.

That should be illegal!

350 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:01:05am

re: #347 scottishbuzzsaw

Will they be allowed to 'pull the lever' themselves, or will that be done for them too...damn.

That's what they do to seniors in nursing homes.

351 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:01:26am

re: #346 opnion

They are grabbing kids out of bars in Ohio & driving them to vote.
Hey if you are too drunk to drive, maybe you are too drunk to vote.

Didn't some states once close the taverns on election day?

352 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:01:45am

re: #347 scottishbuzzsaw

Will they be allowed to 'pull the lever' themselves, or will that be done for them too...damn.

It is really disturbing.

353 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:02:08am

re: #349 galloping granny

That should be illegal!

It should be but, the judge said it's not.

354 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:03:59am

re: #351 MandyManners

Didn't some states once close the taverns on election day?

Yup. Under the old Blue Laws.

355 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:04:32am

I hope BHO loses. I don't want to spend the next four years with my television on MUTE.

356 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:05:47am

re: #354 galloping granny

Yup. Under the old Blue Laws.

I've heard tales of the Southern Democrat machine giving money and liquor to blacks on election day to ensure a win.

357 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:08:31am

re: #355 MandyManners

Don't worry, as there will be no power the TV will no longer be an anoyance.

Rush made this observation yesterday:

But I'm just making a point here of how much money $700 billion is and how much of a profound impact it could have if it were injected into the market, into the private sector, into the hands of the people who make the country work rather than the lenders. But then Kevin at Wizbang blog says he "took it to the next level... On page 174 of the pdf [he] found an interesting table," and I can't give you the numbers of the table here; I'll just give you the results here. Numbers are hard to follow on the radio. He found an interesting table and "put the highlighted numbers into a spreadsheet to figure out just how many mortgages $700 Billion could retire if [the Congress] gave the money (back) to the people. I got this. The Bottom Line: If the Treasury simply took the $700 Billion and started paying off taxpayer mortgages, they could pay off every mortgage in the country worth less than $75,000..."

358 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:05am

re: #355 MandyManners

I hope BHO loses. I don't want to spend the next four years with my television on MUTE.

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]

There's a message from Sarah.....

359 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:34am

Fox has the Ifill story. "IFILL'S OBAMA BIAS".

360 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:11:15am

re: #357 Rancher

: If the Treasury simply took the $700 Billion and started paying off taxpayer mortgages, they could pay off every mortgage in the country worth less than $75,000..."

What about those who are paying their mortgages?

361 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:11:37am
362 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:11:39am

re: #356 MandyManners

I've heard tales of the Southern Democrat machine giving money and liquor to blacks on election day to ensure a win.

Most of the southern states did not have blue laws. The New England states all did along with NY and Virginia.

363 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:12:51am

re: #359 MandyManners

Fox has the Ifill story. "IFILL'S OBAMA BIAS".

friends at foxnews would like to know what we think - whether Ifil should be replaced or not.

364 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:13:44am

re: #358 Sharmuta

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]

There's a message from Sarah.....

Why don't her glasses have AR coating?

365 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:13:49am

re: #361 ibmkeyboard

Sarah Palin -
What kind of man uses his daughter for a nude portrait

Sick...

366 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:14:23am

What's the e-addy? friends@foxnews.com?

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:16:01am

re: #361 ibmkeyboard

Sarah Palin -
What kind of man uses his daughter for a nude portrait

A democrat.

368 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:21:19am

re: #366 MandyManners

What's the e-addy?

369 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:21:38am

Ifill's not just in the tank for BHO! She's in the bank for him!

370 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:21:48am

re: #368 galloping granny

Oh for goodness sakes! Yes that is the email addy.

371 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:22:00am

re: #368 galloping granny

friends@foxnews.com

372 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:22:34am

re: #370 galloping granny

LOL!

373 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:23:28am

re: #369 MandyManners

Ifill's not just in the tank for BHO! She's in the bank for him!

Exactly! And did you get the title - I forget all of it but it ends "in the Age of Obama" &*$)#*! They really do treat the guy like he is Jesus Christ Superstar.

374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:23am

re: #362 galloping granny

Most of the southern states did not have blue laws. The New England states all did along with NY and Virginia.

Until about 20 years ago, you could only keep a grocery store open in Roanoke, VA. Large grocery store chains (like Kroger) had to fence off the non grocery parts of the store.

God forbid you needed a grill or a cooler or a flashlight on a Sunday, you just had to go out and steal one.

375 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:11am

re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Until about 20 years ago, you could only keep a grocery store open in Roanoke, VA. Large grocery store chains (like Kroger) had to fence off the non grocery parts of the store.

God forbid you needed a grill or a cooler or a flashlight on a Sunday, you just had to go out and steal one.

ROFL! I well remember those days. I got trapped in New York caving in my white linen wedding pumps ($150 many long years ago!) because it was a Sunday and I had forgotten to pack shoes for the honeymoon.

376 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:30:01am

BTW, the Senate is supposed to vote tonight on the bailout bill.

Is that online yet?

377 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:30:23am

Precious good it's dong for te msm to be in the tank for 0bama- no one's watching them anyways:

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

378 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:30:31am

re: #373 galloping granny

Exactly! And did you get the title - I forget all of it but it ends "in the Age of Obama" &*$)#*! They really do treat the guy like he is Jesus Christ Superstar.

title of the book is

The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:30:47am

re: #373 galloping granny

They really do treat the guy like he is Jesus Christ Superstar.

Well, imagine at the end of four years when we all could join hands and sing...

"Ev'ry time I look at you I don't understand
Why you let the things you did Get so out of hand
You'd have managed better If you'd had it planned..."

380 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:31:00am

re: #377 Sharmuta

Er- doing.

381 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:32:53am

re: #378 reine.de.tout

The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.

*facepalm* I wonder if there's going to be a trend in the next census where people change their religion to "Obamism."

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:33:43am

re: #380 Sharmuta

Was wondering...

Anybody seen "JMV"? Notice she/he didn't show up for the Gwen Ifil thread?

Sureffingprise.

383 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:10am

Beware there are still dry counties in Texas with no alcohol sales regardless. And some are pretty big. It really sucks finding that out after you've stopped and checked in at a motel, ready for that first cold one.

384 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:30am

re: #373 galloping granny

Exactly! And did you get the title - I forget all of it but it ends "in the Age of Obama" &*$)#*! They really do treat the guy like he is Jesus Christ Superstar.

How pissed will they be when he's not elected?

385 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:54am

re: #378 reine.de.tout

title of the book is

The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.

It was the Age of Obama that really got me. It sounds like we're headed for a new year zero date - BO (before Obama) and AO or PO. spit.

386 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:35:21am

re: #383 Rancher

Beware there are still dry counties in Texas with no alcohol sales regardless. And some are pretty big. It really sucks finding that out after you've stopped and checked in at a motel, ready for that first cold one.

North Carolina too.

387 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:35:21am

re: #381 Oriculum

*facepalm* I wonder if there's going to be a trend in the next census where people change their religion to "Obamism."

If you look at the Obama Children's Chorus, it appears that many already have.

388 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:35:30am

re: #363 galloping granny

friends at foxnews would like to know what we think - whether Ifil should be replaced or not.


Well I guess it really is just to much for us to expect that Fox and Friends even know what journalistic ethics are.

389 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:36:10am

re: #384 MandyManners

How pissed will they be when he's not elected?

As much as we'll be relieved?

390 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:36:11am

re: #362 galloping granny

Most of the southern states did not have blue laws. The New England states all did along with NY and Virginia.

They had them in the South when I was growing up, and from what I've heard, they still do in many areas.

391 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:36:27am

re: #384 MandyManners

How pissed will they be when he's not elected?

There will be a complete meltdown. Worse than both Bush elections combined, because of Sarah.

392 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:36:47am

re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think JMV is Gwen Ifill.

393 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:36:47am

re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was wondering...

Anybody seen "JMV"? Notice she/he didn't show up for the Gwen Ifil thread?

Sureffingprise.

I was over on that thread and was just about to ask where JMV was when I saw your post about it. LOL.

394 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:37:26am

re: #385 galloping granny

It was the Age of Obama that really got me. It sounds like we're headed for a new year zero date - BO (before Obama) and AO or PO. spit.

Didn't the Khmer Rouge reset the calendar?

395 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:38:02am

re: #388 doriangrey

Well I guess it really is just to much for us to expect that Fox and Friends even know what journalistic ethics are.

Huh?

396 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:38:24am

re: #387 reine.de.tout

Yeah. Caught that one. Truly chilling. I know the fear is a bit irrational, but part of me thinks that if Obama is elected, we're going to start seeing large portraits of him on the side of buildings.

397 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:38:36am

re: #389 Oriculum

As much as we'll be relieved?

Which will be immense.

398 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:38:46am

re: #388 doriangrey

Well I guess it really is just to much for us to expect that Fox and Friends even know what journalistic ethics are.

Oh, you have misinterpreted what I wrote. I'm sorry - I should have been more clear. They were simply seeking public input, sort of like a poll. Then they read several letters on air.

They have no problem with journalistic ethics in this case - they are really talking up the story and pushing the point that debate moderators should at least have a pretense of impartiality - and that having a book coming out about one of the candidates is nowhere close to impartial.

399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:02am

re: #383 Rancher

Was in Arkansas a few years back. Checked into the hotel, threw my stuff in the room and went next door to the Ruby Tuesdays.

Hostess was going to seat me, I said, "I'll just sit at the bar." She said, "Sir, there's no bar, this is a dry county." I said, "Thanks anyway." And left.

Went back to the hotel, picked up my stuff, canceled my rooms and moved to a non-dry county.

Hotel manager didn't even blink. Said "Don't worry about it. Happens all the time."

I was completely flummoxed that a Ruby Tuesdays would open in a dry county. I thought those restaurants depend greatly on alcohol sales.

400 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:21am

re: #391 Rancher

There will be a complete meltdown. Worse than both Bush elections combined, because of Sarah.

Will I need to stay at home with new ammo and a lot of food and water?

401 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:34am

re: #394 MandyManners

Didn't the Khmer Rouge reset the calendar?

I don't know. Let me see what the internet says.

402 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:40:37am

McCain Gains 2 Points On Obama in First Poll Following Debate

I can't figure out what this means- I wish jmv was here to explain it....

403 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:19am

re: #400 MandyManners

Will I need to stay at home with new ammo and a lot of food and water?

Maybe?

404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:54am

re: #402 Sharmuta

As I've said before, JMV is, at least, polite. But also, prone to post and run.

405 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:24am

Just saw Al Davis on CNN. Is he sick or just old?

406 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:30am

re: #402 Sharmuta

McCain Gains 2 Points On Obama in First Poll Following Debate

I can't figure out what this means- I wish jmv was here to explain it....

Now Sharm! You must be nice to the intellectually challenged.

/Snicker. . .

407 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:04am

re: #404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes, JMV is polite.

408 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:11am

re: #396 Oriculum

Yeah. Caught that one. Truly chilling. I know the fear is a bit irrational, but part of me thinks that if Obama is elected, we're going to start seeing large portraits of him on the side of buildings.

Not at first. It will be a slow and incremental change.

This man is truly truly frightening to me.

The arrogance, where there is no shown true accomplishment or intellectual ability to be arrogant about.

The absolute unblinking, unthinking adoration he receives from most in the media.

The "halo" photos that were all over the place.

And this type of suport: New Obama Logo from "Turkish Americans for Obama" Has Star and Crescent

409 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:13am

re: #403 Sharmuta

Maybe?

Perhaps I'll just retreat to my bunker in an undisclosed location.

410 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:30am

re: #408 reine.de.tout

I just saw that!

411 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:31am

re: #400 MandyManners

Will I need to stay at home with new ammo and a lot of food and water?

I don't know about the ammo, but I sure would lay in a good supply of food.

412 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:49am

re: #409 MandyManners

I was going to go to tfk's house.

413 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:51am

Fox says they got thousands of e-mails against Ifill hosting, with two or so for.

414 akak  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:44:07am

Janikowski....Al must be sick

415 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:44:20am

Lynne de Rothschild is on Fox now if you're interested. Talking about her support of John Mccain.

416 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:45:02am

re: #404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

As I've said before, JMV is, at least, polite. But also, prone to post and run.

JMV is always polite. JMF does indeed post and run. JMV also ignores inconvenient questions.

417 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:45:06am

re: #413 MandyManners

Fox says they got thousands of e-mails against Ifill hosting, with two or so for.

I guess that settles that.

418 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:45:09am

re: #400 MandyManners

Will I need to stay at home with new ammo and a lot of food and water?

Depends on your neighborhood I guess. I wouldn't want to be in Chicago.

419 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:45:16am

re: #411 galloping granny

I don't know about the ammo, but I sure would lay in a good supply of food.

And, firewood.

420 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:45:58am

re: #412 Sharmuta

I was going to go to tfk's house.

Why don't we all go? (I hope he's doing better. He was extremely pissed on the sharia thread.)

421 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:46:01am

re: #412 Sharmuta

I was going to go to tfk's house.

Does tfk have a bunker?

422 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:04am

re: #417 galloping granny

I guess that settles that.

I wonder if the few in support were from BHO, WAB and Gwen herself.

423 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:28am

re: #422 MandyManners

I wonder if the few in support were from BHO, WAB and Gwen herself.

Oh, wait. I doubt Gwen Ifill has ever even seen Fox.

424 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:48:13am

re: #418 Rancher

Depends on your neighborhood I guess. I wouldn't want to be in Chicago.

Or any city with a moonbat population.

425 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:04am

re: #420 MandyManners

Why don't we all go? (I hope he's doing better. He was extremely pissed on the sharia thread.)

He showed up later. I can't say I blame him- it's pissing off others too. Instead of dealing with the topic or doing research or making any sort of an impact, we're playing games with a narcissistic moby. Almost as if it's trying to lessen LGF's impact. I'm sticking with my cone of silence, and I really hope others will do so too. Ding the whiner down and move on- we have an election to win.

426 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:59am

re: #408 reine.de.tout

Shudder...

427 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:50:06am

re: #415 galloping granny

Lynne de Rothschild is on Fox now if you're interested. Talking about her support of John Mccain.

I stepped on my wahoo in a major way when she first showed up. I said that she was not a self-made woman. Boy, was I wrong.

428 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:50:11am

Shar - check your e-mail, if you haven't done so in a bit.

429 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:51:10am

re: #422 MandyManners

I wonder if the few in support were from BHO, WAB and Gwen herself.

I don't know. I'm still trying to get my head around the legality of Obama's campaign throwing a concert and then asking the attendees to vote. I somehow do not think that the Ohio legislature, when they authorized the early registration-same day absentee ballot, intended that one political party should orchestra what amounts to a huge, public purchase of votes.

I think somebody should challenge every one of those votes in court. That is not the same thing as walking up to a polling place by a long shot.

430 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:51:28am

re: #425 Sharmuta

He showed up later. I can't say I blame him- it's pissing off others too. Instead of dealing with the topic or doing research or making any sort of an impact, we're playing games with a narcissistic moby. Almost as if it's trying to lessen LGF's impact. I'm sticking with my cone of silence, and I really hope others will do so too. Ding the whiner down and move on- we have an election to win.

Well, my dinger's off but, I'll do my very best to ignore him. I couldn't let him go yesterday, though. Ignorant shit should not go unanswered.

431 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:11am

re: #429 galloping granny

I don't know. I'm still trying to get my head around the legality of Obama's campaign throwing a concert and then asking the attendees to vote. I somehow do not think that the Ohio legislature, when they authorized the early registration-same day absentee ballot, intended that one political party should orchestra what amounts to a huge, public purchase of votes.

I think somebody should challenge every one of those votes in court. That is not the same thing as walking up to a polling place by a long shot.

Just as I was tuning in this morning, they were talking about some appeal that the RNC lost in Ohio recently.

What about those college voters who are already registered in their home states?

432 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:22am

re: #408 reine.de.tout

I understand entirely. He's the first politician that's made me actively fear for my country and my way of life. I think a lot of liberals, while voting for Obama's brand of change, don't actually believe that anything in their life will change. They're just buying into the whole "anything but Bush" phenomenon. I mean, campaigns before have been based on emotion, but this is an extreme. Obama's campaign slogans are couched in the terms of religion. Belief, hope, faith... It's all impervious to reason. I've been able to argue with friends, and show how the Dems are responsible for the current economic crisis, and how Obama's plan is illogical for the purpose of creating jobs. They tell me I'm right, but they're still voting for him, because McCain is just like Bush in their minds.

Maybe I'll just follow Mandy's example a buy a whole bunch of ammo.

433 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:23am

re: #429 galloping granny

I somehow do not think that the Ohio legislature, when they authorized the early registration-same day absentee ballot, intended that one political party should orchestra what amounts to a huge, public purchase of votes.

Depends on the make-up of the legislature. That may have been exactly what they wanted.

434 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:54:15am

re: #428 reine.de.tout

Done, Sweets.

435 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:55:49am

Fox STILL won't make the connection between ACORN and BHO.

C'mon, Fox! I've sent you the links!

436 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:56:10am

Time to run.

Coffee for anyone who needs to wake up.

Muffins for anyone who is hungry.

Later, all!

437 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:56:52am

re: #431 MandyManners

Just as I was tuning in this morning, they were talking about some appeal that the RNC lost in Ohio recently.

The Ohio Supreme Court ruled that registering and then being handed an absentee ballot is constitutional.

438 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:56:55am

re: #430 MandyManners

I agree- it's hard for me not to want to refute BS. But Walter summed it up perfectly. Next time he starts, we should just post this comment.

439 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:10am

Whoa. Doocy went there. Ken Blackwell, former SoS for Ohio, is on.

440 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:58:41am

re: #437 Rancher

The Ohio Supreme Court ruled that registering and then being handed an absentee ballot is constitutional.

Absentee voting should be held to a stricter standard. You should have to prove you'll be absent the day of the election.

441 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:59:53am

re: #438 Sharmuta

I agree- it's hard for me not to want to refute BS. But Walter summed it up perfectly. Next time he starts, we should just post this comment.

I could tell Walter knew a thing or two about narcissism when he posted that. I bet he is around quite a few in the theater biz. The best way to deal with them is to cut off their N-Supply. Even negative attention is still attention.

442 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:00:57am

re: #431 MandyManners

Just as I was tuning in this morning, they were talking about some appeal that the RNC lost in Ohio recently.

What about those college voters who are already registered in their home states?

That is an interesting question. College voters are supposed to vote in their community of residence, not where they go to school. At least that is the way it was when my girls were "college aged." Certainly opens a whole new can of worms if there is no mechanism to prevent them from voting twice.

I've got to go teach math. Back in a few.

443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:01:25am

re: #438 Sharmuta

I really do like Walter.

444 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:02:48am

re: #443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I really do like Walter.

Walter's great.

445 spidly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:02:51am

the world will end today, right?

446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:03:06am

re: #441 MandyManners

Even negative attention is still attention.

People would rather be praised than punished; but they'd rather be punished than ignored.

447 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:03:32am

re: #442 galloping granny

That is an interesting question. College voters are supposed to vote in their community of residence, not where they go to school. At least that is the way it was when my girls were "college aged." Certainly opens a whole new can of worms if there is no mechanism to prevent them from voting twice.

I've got to go teach math. Back in a few.

Absentee ballots in two precincts?!

448 akak  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:13am

re: #435 MandyManners

Fox STILL won't make the connection between ACORN and BHO.

C'mon, Fox! I've sent you the links!

They did yesterday.

449 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:27am

re: #438 Sharmuta

I agree- it's hard for me not to want to refute BS. But Walter summed it up perfectly. Next time he starts, we should just post this comment.

Wow...excellent insight and advice...

450 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:55am

re: #446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People would rather be praised than punished; but they'd rather be punished than ignored.

It's like raising kids. If they don't think they're getting enough attention, they'll act out even if that means they'll get in trouble.

451 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:59am

re: #446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People would rather be praised than punished; but they'd rather be punished than ignored.

Exactly.

Beut I'm still not convinced there isn't some sabotage going on.

452 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:05:44am

re: #448 akak

They did yesterday.

I missed it!

Hey, maybe they did actually read my e-mail--it had DTN and other sources.

453 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:06:00am

re: #445 spidly

the world will end today, right?

Nope, not today...schedule is already filled...no end in sight...

454 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:06:24am

re: #361 ibmkeyboard

Sarah Palin -
What kind of man uses his daughter for a nude portrait

A baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad man.
And I'm no critic but from what I could see the abusive a**hole can't even paint worth a damn.

455 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:06:56am

They're still on Ifill.

456 akak  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:07:09am

re: #452 MandyManners

I missed it!

Hey, maybe they did actually read my e-mail--it had DTN and other sources.

I was shocked it was on, not much traction I guess.

457 devil in baggy pants  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:07:49am

Ifill story now on FOX

458 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:08:12am

re: #456 akak

I was shocked it was on, not much traction I guess.

The information is out there!

459 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:08:52am

re: #446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People would rather be praised than punished; but they'd rather be punished than ignored.

I prefer to be ignored by those who would punish me.

461 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:10:32am

re: #388 doriangrey

Well I guess it really is just to much for us to expect that Fox and Friends even know what journalistic ethics are.

Are you still here, dorian? How are you feeling?

462 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:11:01am

re: #451 Sharmuta

Exactly.

Beut I'm still not convinced there isn't some sabotage going on.

Oh come on, I love and respect both you and Mandy, but really are either of you acting like the mature Christian women you are? EIDE has been a Lizard for almost 4 years. He said something that was pretty insensitive (and like it or not a fairly common sentiment) and now you are acting just like Obama Troof Police. Let it go...

463 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:11:05am

re: #447 MandyManners

Absentee ballots in two precincts?!

Yup. Exactly! We have a huge college aged population. If even a fairly small percentage - say 20% - nationwide did just that, then that might be enough to swing the entire election.

464 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:11:59am

Co-Chairmen

Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr.
Paul G. Kirk, Jr.

Honorary Co-Chairmen

Gerald R. Ford†
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan†
William J. Clinton

Board of Directors

Howard Buffett
John C. Danforth
Antonia Hernandez
Caroline Kennedy
Michael D. McCurry
Newton N. Minow
Dorothy Ridings
Alan K. Simpson
H. Patrick Swygert

Executive Director

Janet H. Brown

465 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:12:35am

re: #461 scottishbuzzsaw

Are you still here, dorian? How are you feeling?

I'm still here and trying like hell to bite my tongue with sadly not enough results.

466 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:13:34am

2008 Voter Education Partners

AARP
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American Association of Community Colleges
AAUW
American Citizens Abroad
American Library Association
BBH New York
Belmont University
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Boys & Girls Clubs of America
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League of Women Voters
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National Association of Broadcasters
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National Conference on Student Leadership
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University of Pennsylvania, Communication Within the Curriculum (CWiC)
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468 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:14:50am

Gotta' go pry The Kid outta' bed and get the day going. bbl

469 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:17:10am

re: #465 doriangrey

I'm still here and trying like hell to bite my tongue with sadly not enough results.

So I see...{dorian}...take it easy...

470 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:17:17am

re: #467 galloping granny

Unfortunately, they do not have any contact information at all. I wonder just who they are other than "The Commission."

Michell Malkin has it....

And here’s the e-mail address of Janet H. Brown, Executive Director of the Debates Commission: jb@debates.org

471 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:17:23am

re: #351 MandyManners

Didn't some states once close the taverns on election day?


I think that back in the day , all states did.

472 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:18:35am

Gah, every new morning I have to pinch myself harder to remember that we live in a free society.

473 akak  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:18:43am

Good news to see Gorbachev & Russian billionaire starting a new party!

The billionaire may not be rich enough for the likes of Gazprom....

474 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:05am

re: #468 MandyManners

Gotta' go pry The Kid outta' bed and get the day going. bbl

Mandy, was it your kid who noticed Obama text messaging during the debate? A friend of mine mentioned it to someone who said that Obama must have been looking at his bracelet, but that was not the sense I got from the poster as to when/what the child meant.

475 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:53am

morning lizards, baileys on the desk beside me, have at it.

476 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:20:50am

Man caught fishing for women's underwear.

Before you ask, I was home when this happened!

477 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:19am

re: #475 ratso

morning lizards, baileys on the desk beside me, have at it.

At 8:20 in the morning? You should bring coffee instead. :)

478 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:10am

re: #469 scottishbuzzsaw

So I see...{dorian}...take it easy...

ROTFLMAO.... Oh no worries there. I have no intention of attempting to be the voice of reason or fairness on this issue anymore. I dont want to hurt or offend anyone I consider a friend. I will just thank God that when my time to be judged come it will be Jesus doing the judging and not some of my friends.

479 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:35am

re: #477 galloping granny

At 8:20 in the morning? You should bring coffee instead. :)


it's for the coffee granny

480 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:41am

So I see that the Choir of Obamaton Youth has been removed from youtube.

481 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:52am

re: #475 ratso

morning lizards, baileys on the desk beside me, have at it.

Mornin' cousin...thanks...just a little...

482 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:23:44am

Dorian I upticked you on that one. Good to see the name "Jesus" in general conversation, bet you don't see it at koz

483 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:23:57am

re: #478 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... Oh no worries there. I have no intention of attempting to be the voice of reason or fairness on this issue anymore. I dont want to hurt or offend anyone I consider a friend. I will just thank God that when my time to be judged come it will be Jesus doing the judging and not some of my friends.

Sorry, didn't mean to enter into this...just worried that it might make the pain worse...that's all.

484 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:24:16am

re: #475 ratso

morning lizards, baileys on the desk beside me, have at it.

Grumble grumble... Vicodin and Baileys just dont mix..... /pout pout....

485 Dead Man Voting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:24:21am

So, Obama's

486 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:24:23am

re: #481 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' cousin...thanks...just a little...


a might tiny nip huh? morning cuz

487 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:25:21am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Newsflash to Senator Man Child:

Plurality, For First Time, Says Iraq War Will Be Judged A Success


In a national telephone survey Monday night, 41% said history will rate the war in Iraq a success versus 39% who said it will be seen as a failure, with 20% undecided (see crosstabs). These findings echo those of the previous two weeks (see trends).

By contrast, in August of last year, 57% believed history would judge the U.S. mission in Iraq a failure, and only 29% disagreed.

Nearly half of voters (48%) also believe the situation in Iraq will get better in the next six months versus 22% who believe it will get worse. Twenty-three percent (23%) expect things to stay about the same. The number of those who see the situation getting better has been steadily rising throughout the summer as violence has gone down in the war-torn country.

488 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:25:54am

hey loppy

489 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:19am

told youse guys yesterday the white sox were going to do it. was it a party in chi last night?

490 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:28:31am

re: #488 ratso

hey loppy

Hey there!

491 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:28:34am

re: #483 scottishbuzzsaw

Sorry, didn't mean to enter into this...just worried that it might make the pain worse...that's all.

Na, no worries there either. A couple of really great Lizards gave me advice when I was a newbie on how to be a good lizard. I was trying to do the same with another lizard because unlike Sharmuta and Mandy who think he is a troll I dont think so. No problems between us on that score. Simple difference of opinion. It's really now up to EIDE to prove that he either is or is not a troll.

492 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:29:23am

Bipartisanship is not a strong suit of The One:

“I don’t think me calling House Republican members would have been that helpful, I tend not to be that persuasive on that side of the aisle.”

493 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:30:47am

re: #492 loppyd

Bipartisanship is not a strong suit of The One:

“I don’t think me calling House Republican members would have been that helpful, I tend not to be that persuasive on that side of the aisle.”

Hmmm, exactly how can a man who thinks he cant reach across the aisle possible perform the duties of POTUS?

494 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:16am

re: #485 Dead Man Voting

0 knows as much about baseball as my maiden auntie knew about the physical act of lovemaking.

495 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:48am

Congrats to the White Sox fans out there and sorry to the Twins fans....

My Red Sox start their series against the Angels tonight - at 10:00 freaking P.M.!

I am going to need a caffeine IV....

496 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:32:05am

re: #493 doriangrey

Hmmm, exactly how can a man who thinks he cant reach across the aisle possible perform the duties of POTUS?

He can't. Plain and simple.

497 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:33:52am

re: #493 doriangrey

Hmmm, exactly how can a man who thinks he cant reach across the aisle possible perform the duties of POTUS?

Have a rubber stamp congress?

498 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:35:52am

re: #496 loppyd

He can't. Plain and simple.

Well unless I guess he really is the messiah............ Isnt their a psychological disorder that specifically refers to people with delusions of grandeur of that magnitude? Megalomania?

499 Athens Runaway  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:37:28am

So I finally got in touch with Zombie and got permission to use some of the Google Memorial Day logos in my Greasemonkey script for Firefox. The script changes Google's logo to a patriotic Google, so you can pretend that Google actually celebrates Memorial Day, much less celebrate it every day.

Download the script here

500 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:40:01am

re: #497 Rancher

Have a rubber stamp congress?

Hmmm, cant see that happening, kind of got a feeling that a lot of dems currently in congress wont be being reelected. I also have a rather profound feeling that the MSM is going to find an awful lot of their people discovering what its like to stand in an unemployment line.....

501 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:40:17am

re: #494 Pullus Iulius

0 knows as much about baseball as my maiden auntie knew about the physical act of lovemaking.

LOL!

502 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:42:14am

re: #494 Pullus Iulius

0 knows as much about baseball as my maiden auntie knew about the physical act of lovemaking.

cough cough... your maiden auntie was a spinster? a shrew?

503 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:42:51am

re: #497 Rancher

Have a rubber stamp congress?

I think that is what he is banking on. I'm suspecting, though, that more than a few Congress critters are going to be unemployed come November. Since the majority is Dem at the minute, those opposing them would be most Republicans.

504 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:42:56am

re: #454 sparrowlake

A baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad man.
And I'm no critic but from what I could see the abusive a**hole can't even paint worth a damn.

Have you noticed,
many of these liberal democrats need to be in jail?

*walks out door going to work and kicks neighbors cat off of porch,
shoots other neighbors democrat dog the finger*

505 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:44:42am

re: #504 ibmkeyboard

Dogs are Republicans!

Cat's are Independents.

506 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:44:45am

Good morning,
Lots of important stuff going on.
Real Clear No Toss Ups now gives Obama Ohio, Virginia and North Carolina, for a total of O-348, M-190.

EU monitors start patrols in Georgia, eye Russians.

British Conservatives see huge lead in polls.

We may have to move to Londinistan.
/

507 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:45:24am

re: #504 ibmkeyboard

Have you noticed,
many of these liberal democrats need to be in jail?

*walks out door going to work and kicks neighbors cat off of porch,
shoots other neighbors democrat dog the finger*

Hmmm, thinks about the liberal dem photographer who who did the shoot for McCain, the one who made children cry....

508 freedombilly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:46:47am

Phish just announced they are coming back in March. Maybe that will distract some of my moonbat friends who are voting for Obama and keep them from the poles in November.

509 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:47:01am

re: #505 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dogs are Republicans!

Cat's are Independents.

ha.
I love your nic.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

510 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:48:40am

re: #508 freedombilly

Phish just announced they are coming back in March. Maybe that will distract some of my moonbat friends who are voting for Obama and keep them from the poles in November.

You know, come to think of it if a couple of us Lizards started a wiki page declaring Nov. 2nd national 420 day, we could probably ensure that about 40 percent of the dems were to stoned to show up and vote......

511 Miss Trixie  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:49:10am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Gloomy with clouds and mist in the valley today and it's already October!

Sheesh! Where does the time go? =O

{dorian} Gah. Dental surgery, you poor thong. Hoping your surgery heals quickly and you're back 100% again.

512 lori lane  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:50:04am

Good morning, Lizzards.

513 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:50:24am

re: #511 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Gloomy with clouds and mist in the valley today and it's already October!

Sheesh! Where does the time go? =O

{dorian} Gah. Dental surgery, you poor thong. Hoping your surgery heals quickly and you're back 100% again.

Grumble grumble, and now I have to practically learn to talk all over again... Currently nobody can understand a word I say...

514 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:50:58am

re: #3 HelloDare

Don't know if you're still on, but thanks for linking to that comment from yesterday. I couldn't believe the original post of the email which I think was from rawmuse if I remember correctly.

I'm not adopted but we have two children who are. I could not imagine any parent saying anything close to what Sen. McCain is supposed to have said. I can't imagine it.

515 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:51:55am

re: #511 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Gloomy with clouds and mist in the valley today and it's already October!

Sheesh! Where does the time go? =O

GAH! It IS October...where'd September go?

Mornin' Miss Trixie...anything good to eat?

516 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:52:05am

re: #514 Cap'n DOC

Don't know if you're still on, but thanks for linking to that comment from yesterday. I couldn't believe the original post of the email which I think was from rawmuse if I remember correctly.

I'm not adopted but we have two children who are. I could not imagine any parent saying anything close to what Sen. McCain is supposed to have said. I can't imagine it.

Doesnt McCain have adopted children?

517 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:52:44am

re: #516 doriangrey

Doesnt McCain have adopted children?

Yes he does.

518 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:53:42am

re: #517 galloping granny

Yes he does.

So what was it that Cap'n DOC is alluding to him supposedly having said?

519 Timbre  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:54:36am

Charles: I urge you to use your website and sway to have all of us boycott use of the word nadir. It is an Arabic word which came from the Islamic story of a tribe of Jews, known as the Banu Nadir. living in Medina. Traditional Muslim histories describes all Jews of the Madinah area as "treacherous," "sinister," and "evil." Because the Banu Nadir would not accept Muhammad as a prophet, he and his followers gave them the option of being deported or killed. Thus it still goes today: non-Muslims are forced to submit or be killed.

Certainly there are astro-physicists who can develop a specific word to replace that of "nadir," meaning the opposite of the zenith, literally, the low point.

520 Miss Trixie  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:55:29am

Oopsies! PIMF - thong=thing

{scottish} Morning, toots. Something different for brekkie.

/So sue me - I had a craving ... :P

521 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:56:37am

re: #520 Miss Trixie

Oopsies! PIMF - thong=thing

{scottish} Morning, toots. Something different for brekkie.

/So sue me - I had a craving ... :P

yikes....... Me no wear no thong....

522 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:56:56am

re: #518 doriangrey

Dorian!
How are you doing this AM?

523 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:57:12am

re: #519 Timbre

Disagree, We should use the word and keep their memory alive. One day justice may done for the theft of Yathrib and the murder of its people.

524 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:57:59am

re: #522 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Dorian!
How are you doing this AM?

Feeling old and toothless... mouth is pretty sore and the vicodin is keeping me awake...

525 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:58:02am

re: #518 doriangrey

So what was it that Cap'n DOC is alluding to him supposedly having said?

It is a nasty email that someone got yesterday and posted a couple of threads back. Supposedly he said horrible things about his adopted daughter from India. And of course if you have ever heard him speak of her you know nothing is further from the truth.

Basically the same smear they tried on Palin's daughter - I suspect perhaps even by the same people.

526 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:58:21am

re: #518 doriangrey

Latest E-smear:

MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN

by Mary-Kay Gamel


Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior
towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some
redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from
Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was
shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do
with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me.
You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing
around in a shopping cart in Arizona . No, it wasn't my idea at all.

527 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:58:54am

re: #520 Miss Trixie

Oopsies! PIMF - thong=thing

{scottish} Morning, toots. Something different for brekkie.

/So sue me - I had a craving ... :P

Now those look delicious...thanks. ;>)

528 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:00am

re: #524 doriangrey

Feeling old and toothless... mouth is pretty sore and the vicodin is keeping me awake...

Hang tough!

529 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:25am

Good morning.

Look for another volatile day in the markets. The futures were down, so expect the market to drop right at the open. Then I it all depends on news during the day.

I read over the SEC announcement on mark to market. They sort of are trying to have it both ways. They say they are not abandoning mark to market, but they are giving more leeway and room for judgment in valuing assets that have no market.

It's better than nothing, but I still would like to see mark to market dropped and net present value (also known as discounted cash flow) used. That would work perfect for about 95% of the mortgages by just punching about 3 numbers into a financial calculator, and the rest that are really messed up could be worked out individually.

I think the legislation will be handled fairly smoothly by the Senate. Then big problem will be the nut house run by Pelosi.

But if you think the US markets are in a mess, take a good look at Europe's. It's like a circular firing squad over there right now.

530 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:00:09am

Congrat's to all the baseball teams who made the playoffs.

531 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:00:27am

re: #518 doriangrey

So what was it that Cap'n DOC is alluding to him supposedly having said?

Here's the comment...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

532 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:00:42am

re: #526 Rancher

Latest E-smear:

LOL! That's so absurd, it's positively FUNNY!

533 Clutch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:00:52am
534 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:01:27am

re: #526 Rancher

Latest E-smear:

Good God, the dems really would elect Stan if given the chance. I mean how else can you explain the vile depths they are sinking to the win this election.

535 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:01:29am

Oh for God's SAKE! They are just now announcing of Fox that the Senate is going to begin acting on that bill at 10 this morning, voting this afternoon. They haven't even given us a chance to see the bill!

536 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:02:09am

And they stuck it onto a tax bill they have already passed!

537 Timbre  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:02:29am

re: #523 lifeofthemind

I understand, but the Muslims developed the word to mean "the low point." Thus, every modern use of the word unwittingly describes those innocent Jews as "low." Somehow, there should be a way do do them honor without referring to the word nadir with its implication of "low."

538 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:03:34am

it's none of our business i guess huh? re: #535 galloping granny

Oh for God's SAKE! They are just now announcing of Fox that the Senate is going to begin acting on that bill at 10 this morning, voting this afternoon. They haven't even given us a chance to see the bill!

539 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:03:43am

Good morning, Lizards.

540 Timbre  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:04:04am

re: #537 Timbre

"to do them honor."

541 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:04:11am

re: #535 galloping granny

Oh for God's SAKE! They are just now announcing of Fox that the Senate is going to begin acting on that bill at 10 this morning, voting this afternoon. They haven't even given us a chance to see the bill!

They have to, that's the only way they can load it down with pork and get it passed. It's the treasonous/democrat/socialist/Marxists/liberal way to do business.

542 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:04:13am

re: #535 galloping granny

Oh for God's SAKE! They are just now announcing of Fox that the Senate is going to begin acting on that bill at 10 this morning, voting this afternoon. They haven't even given us a chance to see the bill!

You honestly expect them to stick the thing out from behind the curtain and let you READ it?!?! M'gosh, granny!

543 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:04:25am

re: #498 doriangrey

Well unless I guess he really is the messiah............ Isnt their a psychological disorder that specifically refers to people with delusions of grandeur of that magnitude? Megalomania?

I call it arrogance.

544 lori lane  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:04:44am

re: #539 jorline

Good morning, Lizards.


Morning, jorline! How's it going?

545 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:04:49am

re: #539 jorline

Good Morning!

546 Rancher  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:05:20am

re: #534 doriangrey

Good God, the dems really would elect Stan if given the chance.

Stan?

547 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:06:01am

re: #516 doriangrey

Yes. A daughter. Bridget. If you follow the link back from #3 (in this thread) to yesterday, I think you'll get the full picture. It's a smear of Sen. McCain - claiming he is uncaring about his daughter Bridget, and the words put into his mouth were that she is an embarrassment to him.

It's nasty stuff.

548 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:06:05am

re: #546 Rancher

Stan?


satan silly

549 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:06:44am

re: #546 Rancher

Stan?

ROTFLMAO..... No Stan

550 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:07:25am

re: #549 doriangrey

dorian how can ya "chuckle" with a mouth ache huh?

551 Timbre  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:07:43am

I'll go first: Jihad is the nadir of the worst of humanity.

552 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:07:57am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Abit chilly here in Indiana...

553 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:08:10am

hiya hoops

554 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:08:17am

re: #544 lori lane

Morning, jorline! How's it going?

{lori}
{pBMB}

I'm well...thank you. Hope all is well for you today.

/another day another vote...lol

555 Miss Trixie  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:08:40am

Morning, jorline. :D

556 lori lane  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:09:05am

re: #552 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Abit chilly here in Indiana...

Morning, {HH}. I turned on my furnace to take the chill out of the air down here. :)

557 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:09:08am

re: #550 ratso

dorian how can ya "chuckle" with a mouth ache huh?

VICODIN....................besides, it only hurts when I laugh... lol...lol...ouch....

558 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:09:22am

re: #555 Miss Trixie

Morning, jorline. :D

{trixie}

Good morning to you.

559 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:10:35am

Good morning, Hoopster.

/it's 8am...do you know where your money's at?

560 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:11:40am

re: #559 jorline

Good morning, Hoopster.

/it's 8am...do you know where your money's at?

Sadly yes I do... Those damned commie bastard democrats are using it to by votes for the O......

561 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:12:42am

re: #519 Timbre

The etymolgy of nadir is arabic, but meant in its original form what it means today: opposite. It was no doubt used in the name Banu Nadir to delineate them from the neighboring Banu Qurayza (from Hebrew kohanim = priestly).

562 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:13:19am

re: #560 doriangrey

Sadly yes I do... Those damned commie bastard democrats are using it to by votes for the O......

Hey, dorin...good to see you this morning. I don't trust any of those bastards.

563 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:13:47am

Fox and friends doing a story about one the the Marines accused by Murtha of being a cold blooded killer who is suing Murtha... I hope he takes Murtha for every single penny he has ever stolen from the American people...

564 Pasketti  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:13:49am

Re: #7, Wishing

I wrote the post two threads back about Senator McCain expressing concern for his adopted child when my husband met him in Vegas 15 or so years ago. I don't mind if anyone sends the story to anyone if they find it interesting. Except my husband wants me to clarify it was just he and Senator McCain at the table for a long time, chatting, not a bunch of people like I'd written in my post. Sen. McCain told my husband and his brother to come see him if they ever visited Washington. I told my husband I think Senator McCain will be a little too busy to see them nowadays, but my husband got the "vibe" from him that he's the kind of guy who'd remember people he meets.

I think Sen. McCain is a good man. I'd vote for him anyway based on politics, but it's nice to believe you are voting for a good person. And the sick twisted "human being" who claimed he said those vile things about his adopted child? I have no words.

565 yochanan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:14:31am

two Chicago teams in the post season. I hope the Cubs make it to the 7th game of the world series

and THE ONLY REAL BASEBALL TEAM IN CHICAGO BEATS THEM

NO GOATS, NO CURSES, JUST VICTORY

566 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:15:23am

re: #564 Pasketti

Re: #7, Wishing

I wrote the post two threads back about Senator McCain expressing concern for his adopted child when my husband met him in Vegas 15 or so years ago. I don't mind if anyone sends the story to anyone if they find it interesting. Except my husband wants me to clarify it was just he and Senator McCain at the table for a long time, chatting, not a bunch of people like I'd written in my post. Sen. McCain told my husband and his brother to come see him if they ever visited Washington. I told my husband I think Senator McCain will be a little too busy to see them nowadays, but my husband got the "vibe" from him that he's the kind of guy who'd remember people he meets.

I think Sen. McCain is a good man. I'd vote for him anyway based on politics, but it's nice to believe you are voting for a good person. And the sick twisted "human being" who claimed he said those vile things about his adopted child? I have no words.

Thank you for sharing your story...

567 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:15:41am

re: #562 jorline

Hey, dorin...good to see you this morning. I don't trust any of those bastards.

Oh I trust them implicitly, trust them to betray their country at ever opportunity and steal any and every thing not nailed down...

568 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:16:28am

re: #565 yochanan
eerrrrrrrrrr, yochman I was a north sider and can't disagree more.

569 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:16:54am

re: #429 galloping granny

I don't know. I'm still trying to get my head around the legality of Obama's campaign throwing a concert and then asking the attendees to vote. I somehow do not think that the Ohio legislature, when they authorized the early registration-same day absentee ballot, intended that one political party should orchestra what amounts to a huge, public purchase of votes.

I think somebody should challenge every one of those votes in court. That is not the same thing as walking up to a polling place by a long shot.

i don't like this either, but remember:
kerry tried this w/ bruce springsteen. iirc, 80,000 fans showed up and enjoyed the show and promptly left. few voted.

570 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:17:02am

FYI -- my ... #415 pre-Boomer Marine brat ... on the Gwen Ifill thread

Sent an e-mail
Maybe it'll help

/holding my breath for 3 ... 2 ...

571 Nevergiveup  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:17:06am

re: #565 yochanan

two Chicago teams in the post season. I hope the Cubs make it to the 7th game of the world series

and THE ONLY REAL BASEBALL TEAM IN CHICAGO BEATS THEM

NO GOATS, NO CURSES, JUST VICTORY

Do you think there is any connection with 2 Chicago baseball teams in the playoffs and the economic meltdown? Just saying.

572 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:18:37am

Good Morning {lori}
Ratso..Jorline
What's going on today?
Dorian..Hope you get feeling better!

573 yochanan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:18:45am

re: #568 ratso

eerrrrrrrrrr, yochman I was a north sider and can't disagree more.

I AM CURRENTLY BOTH A NORTH SIDER AND A RUPUBLICAN INSIDE CHICAGOSTAN

THE FUBS ARE THE LAKEFRONT LIBERALS TEAM LOVEABLE LOSERS AND ALL

574 DaddyG  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:19:31am

re: #571 Nevergiveup

Do you think there is any connection with 2 Chicago baseball teams in the playoffs and the economic meltdown? Just saying.

Just got a call from hades... something about needing ice skates?

575 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:19:35am

all right, all right, just don't yell at me huh? geeeshre: #573 yochanan

576 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:20:29am

re: #572 HoosierHoops

Good Morning {lori}
Ratso..Jorline
What's going on today?
Dorian..Hope you get feeling better!

Well, I have felt better..... Drugs are making me feel pretty wobbly and I cant sleep... Well actually that part might finally be passing, but I have been up all night...

577 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:20:36am

re: #569 nyc redneck

i don't like this either, but remember:
kerry tried this w/ bruce springsteen. iirc, 80,000 fans showed up and enjoyed the show and promptly left. few voted.

I didn't know that. I didn't follow Kerry's doings anywhere near as much as I do Obamas. Kerry has always impressed me as just your garden variety idiot and I knew that everyone of my generation remembers Traitor John extremely well. I wasn't worried about him.

Obama is sheer evil hiding behind a blank mask. Since the very first day I started hearing of him he has disturbed me and for quite some while now I have strongly felt that his election to POTUS would quite literally be the end of the United States of America.

578 Vergeltung  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:21:03am

1st day without the NY Sun. I feel un-informed! :(

579 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:21:16am

re: #559 jorline

Good morning, Hoopster.

/it's 8am...do you know where your money's at?

hey.. I found my wallet with the Trillion Dollar check.. So now I can loan money to Congress and get out of this mess..
/25% interest..payback is a bitch! :)

580 yochanan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:21:18am

re: #574 DaddyG

Just got a call from hades... something about needing ice skates?


and no NU YAWK teams hehehe

no only if bret had signed with the bears

581 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:21:24am

re: #571 Nevergiveup

Do you think there is any connection with 2 Chicago baseball teams in the playoffs and the economic meltdown? Just saying.

No, it has to do with the presidential campaign.
With Obama in there, it's an awfully wriggly field.

582 Nevergiveup  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:21:48am

re: #578 Vergeltung

1st day without the NY Sun. I feel un-informed! :(

Just think how Democrats feel every day?

583 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:22:00am

I agree totally granny. There is something very sinister in this. re: #577 galloping granny

I didn't know that. I didn't follow Kerry's doings anywhere near as much as I do Obamas. Kerry has always impressed me as just your garden variety idiot and I knew that everyone of my generation remembers Traitor John extremely well. I wasn't worried about him.

Obama is sheer evil hiding behind a blank mask. Since the very first day I started hearing of him he has disturbed me and for quite some while now I have strongly felt that his election to POTUS would quite literally be the end of the United States of America.

584 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:22:23am

re: #576 doriangrey

Well, I have felt better..... Drugs are making me feel pretty wobbly and I cant sleep... Well actually that part might finally be passing, but I have been up all night...

Do you have to work today?

585 freedombilly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:22:31am

re: #510 doriangrey

You know, come to think of it if a couple of us Lizards started a wiki page declaring Nov. 2nd national 420 day, we could probably ensure that about 40 percent of the dems were to stoned to show up and vote......

Brialliant! Definitely one of those why didn't I think of that moments.

586 Vergeltung  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:22:38am

re: #580 yochanan

and no NU YAWK teams hehehe
no only if bret had signed with the bears

the presidents of all the leagues know it's good when NY teams are in the post season. people actually watch them then.

587 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:23:04am

Good morning all! Get yourself a cup o' fresh perked outrage right here:

Video: Stanley Kurtz on Obama, ACORN, and the CRA

Outrage that Obama's involvement in this whole subprime mortgage mess was key. Outrage that aside from a few journalists & bloggers, most of the mainstream media is either ignoring it or actively covering up for it. Outrage that this man & his party will be given the keys to the White House & Congress in November.

Warning: LGFers with blood pressure concerns might not want to click on the following link,

Get a load of this new Obama campaign logo!

Turkish Americans for Obama

Love that star & crescent, so full of hope & change!

588 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:23:04am

re: #569 nyc redneck

i don't like this either, but remember:
kerry tried this w/ bruce springsteen. iirc, 80,000 fans showed up and enjoyed the show and promptly left. few voted.

The new Ohio voting law makes fraud much easier than it was 4 years ago. People can now fillout registration forms at a remote location and then submit an absentee ballot at the same time. No verification that they are genuinely eligible to vote is done before the ballot is entered into the system. I am taking it as a given that the state of Ohio and its 20 electoral votes have been stolen.

589 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:23:14am

re: #467 galloping granny

Unfortunately, they do not have any contact information at all. I wonder just who they are other than "The Commission."

Federal Agencies

The Federal Election Commission (FEC)

999 E Street, NW
Washington, DC 20463
(202) 219-3440

Federal Communications Commission (FCC)

1919 M Street, NW
Washington, DC 20554
(202) 418-0200

National Archives and Records Administration

Office of Presidential Libraries
The National Archives - Room 104
700 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20408
(202) 501-5700
(202) 501-5709 f

590 freedombilly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:23:50am

re: #543 loppyd

Not having Beckett for Game 1 scares me but I think Lester will throw a gem tonight.

591 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:24:05am

re: #471 opnion

I think that back in the day , all states did.

I can see it being a problem back in the day.

592 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:24:34am

re: #574 DaddyG

Just got a call from hades... something about needing ice skates?

What Obama called trying to shake you down for a campaign donation? I like to send him one every day via my very own hydro-pneumatic mail delivery system (Otherwise know as the sewer system)

593 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:25:11am

re: #474 galloping granny

Mandy, was it your kid who noticed Obama text messaging during the debate? A friend of mine mentioned it to someone who said that Obama must have been looking at his bracelet, but that was not the sense I got from the poster as to when/what the child meant.

Oh, no. He was on PS3 during the debate.

594 freedombilly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:25:40am

re: #351 MandyManners

Imagine the effect on the economy if all 57 states closed their bars for a day!

595 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:25:40am

re: #588 lifeofthemind

The new Ohio voting law makes fraud much easier than it was 4 years ago. People can now fillout registration forms at a remote location and then submit an absentee ballot at the same time. No verification that they are genuinely eligible to vote is done before the ballot is entered into the system. I am taking it as a given that the state of Ohio and its 20 electoral votes have been stolen.

Worse, they are targeting college kids. Unless they have changed the rules, college kids are supposed to vote in their home districts, not the community they go to school in. So, does that mean that every college kid in the country gets to vote twice - once where they go to school plus an absentee from their home district?

596 arethusa  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:25:50am

Even according to the NYT, Katie Couric's ratings continue to slip, even with Sarah Palin.

Maybe Justice doesn't like the way Katie Couric smirks, either.

597 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:26:19am

re: #579 HoosierHoops

hey.. I found my wallet with the Trillion Dollar check.. So now I can loan money to Congress and get out of this mess..
/25% interest..payback is a bitch! :)

I've got an earmark on your check, Hoopster...LOL

598 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:26:30am

re: #590 freedombilly

Not having Beckett for Game 1 scares me but I think Lester will throw a gem tonight.

He always rises to the occasion.

599 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:26:46am

re: #576 doriangrey

Well, I have felt better..... Drugs are making me feel pretty wobbly and I cant sleep... Well actually that part might finally be passing, but I have been up all night...

That's good you are stating to feel better.. I was worried about the shotgun blasts coming your way when you stepped in front of EIDE and saved his life...
You are a brave man Dorian...got some principle in ya donja know?

600 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:26:55am

re: #578 Vergeltung

1st day without the NY Sun. I feel un-informed! :(

They stopped posting comments on The Arc of the Sun and The Ideal of the Scoop around 2 PM yesterday. Mine were submitted to late to get moderated and posted. Wish they could keep the web site alive and keep the conversation going.

601 DaddyG  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:27:28am

re: #588 lifeofthemind

The new Ohio voting law makes fraud much easier than it was 4 years ago. People can now fillout registration forms at a remote location and then submit an absentee ballot at the same time. No verification that they are genuinely eligible to vote is done before the ballot is entered into the system. I am taking it as a given that the state of Ohio and its 20 electoral votes have been stolen.

They have been ordered to segregate the ballots until a court challenge decides if they can be counted or not. The law is being challenged. (Article linked at drudge... Matt should thank LGF for all the extra traffic today...)

602 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:27:39am

My email to the Executive Director of the Debates Commission:

Dear Ms. Brown,

In light of the recent discovery of Ms. Ifill's book, Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama, I am writing to express my concern that Ms. Ifill will be unable to remain impartial while moderating tomorrow night's Vice Presidential debate.

How the Commission could allow Ms. Ifill to moderate this debate is beyond me.

While I am not confident that the Commission will do the right thing and ask Ms. Ifill to recuse herself, the Commission should require Ms. Ifill to divulge that she has written the aforementioned book to the viewing audience.

I don't know what is more concerning - that the Commission may have missed this crucial piece of information about Ms. Ifill when selecting her to moderate the debate or that the Commission knew about her book and decided to select her despite it.

Thank you for your attention to this matter and I hope you and the Commission do the right thing.

603 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:28:07am

re: #584 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Do you have to work today?

Nope, dentist office told me that after the anesthesia I wasn't to drive for 48 to 72 hours, plus my work wont let me come in under the influence of Vicodin... I'm off until at least Thursday...

604 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:28:11am

biometrics should be used in the vote. thumbprint with no other id associated with it, digitally store and compare in milliseconds to insure print hasn't been used prior. easy huh? re: #595 galloping granny

Worse, they are targeting college kids. Unless they have changed the rules, college kids are supposed to vote in their home districts, not the community they go to school in. So, does that mean that every college kid in the country gets to vote twice - once where they go to school plus an absentee from their home district?

605 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:29:13am

re: #498 doriangrey

Well unless I guess he really is the messiah............ Isnt their a psychological disorder that specifically refers to people with delusions of grandeur of that magnitude? Megalomania?

Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It's not a mental disease.

606 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:29:36am

re: #582 Nevergiveup

Just think how Democrats feel every day?

The opposite, the Democrats have the passionate certainty of a faith that does not need to consider reality and does not respect civilized work.

607 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:29:50am

re: #603 doriangrey
dorian we'll know when your forehead hits the keyboard. kinda like this jfdjl;iro0389u gp335

608 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:29:56am

re: #603 doriangrey

Nope, dentist office told me that after the anesthesia I wasn't to drive for 48 to 72 hours, plus my work wont let me come in under the influence of Vicodin... I'm off until at least Thursday...

Excellent.
Let's hope you get back on a reasonably-normal sleep routine soon.

609 Nevergiveup  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:30:11am

re: #598 loppyd

He always rises to the occasion.

Reminds me of me in my youth. Oops, did I just say that on Rosh HaShanah?

610 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:31:15am

Good morning all y'all - from a cool (58 degrees, going up to 74 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning - or should I say later this morning, as I was on until around 2:00AM myself last night, again ?

611 bp sf  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:31:21am

Happy 5769 everybody!

Kiss o' death for BHO...Bruce's endorsement.

Springsteen to play free Philly set for Obama

The Boss will come to the Parkway on Saturday for a free performance in support of a man who would be president.
Bruce Springsteen will perform an acoustic set at an open-air rally for U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D., Ill.) from a stage near 20th and 22d Streets, the Obama campaign said yesterday.

612 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:31:23am

re: #604 ratso

biometrics should be used in the vote. thumbprint with no other id associated with it, digitally store and compare in milliseconds to insure print hasn't been used prior. easy huh?

Nope, not easy. Not without a national database containing everyone's thumbprints. Which would require some form of national ID. That would cause an uproar of tremendous proportions. A state by state database would be useless because many college kids go to school outside their home states. And then when you find duplicates, how and by whom do you determine which state gets to keep the ballot and who has to discard it.

613 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:31:33am

re: #609 Nevergiveup

Reminds me of me in my youth. Oops, did I just say that on Rosh HaShanah?

LOL

Did you carry a raincoat around with you?

614 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:31:38am

re: #599 HoosierHoops

That's good you are stating to feel better.. I was worried about the shotgun blasts coming your way when you stepped in front of EIDE and saved his life...
You are a brave man Dorian...got some principle in ya donja know?

Actually there was only one person who was angry with me over that. All the other fine lizards that disagreed with me we cordial and polite, even if they disagreed with me.

615 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:31:47am

re: #577 galloping granny

I didn't know that. I didn't follow Kerry's doings anywhere near as much as I do Obamas. Kerry has always impressed me as just your garden variety idiot and I knew that everyone of my generation remembers Traitor John extremely well. I wasn't worried about him.

Obama is sheer evil hiding behind a blank mask. Since the very first day I started hearing of him he has disturbed me and for quite some while now I have strongly felt that his election to POTUS would quite literally be the end of the United States of America.

yes. kerry looks infinitely better by comparison. i never felt he would purposefully destroy our country. he was just dangerously foolish.
obama definitely hates america. he is capable of anything.
as far as his big crowds go, at most of his rally's where he gets a lot of people, he has a famous band that opens for him.

616 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:32:11am

re: #594 freedombilly

Imagine the effect on the economy if all 57 states closed their bars for a day!

You trying to make Basil Hayden cry?

617 Nevergiveup  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:32:11am

re: #613 loppyd

LOL

Did you carry a raincoat around with you?

Until I was arrested.

618 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:33:01am

I just realized I missed my 4th Lizard birthday.

9/27/04 and 25,011 comments

Happy belated birthday to me!

619 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:33:13am

naaaaaa, provide an id, forget the prior print just compare prints used to vote. can't link names here re: #612 galloping granny

620 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:33:21am

re: #610 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a cool (58 degrees, going up to 74 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning - or should I say later this morning, as I was on until around 2:00AM myself last night, again ?

Good morning, real...gorgeous and cool here in MO...how are you today?

621 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:33:27am

re: #618 loppyd

I just realized I missed my 4th Lizard birthday.

9/27/04 and 25,011 comments

Happy belated birthday to me!

Happy birthday!

622 Nevergiveup  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:33:46am

File this under: The most ETHICAL Congress?

EXCLUSIVE: Pelosi paid husband with PAC funds
$99,000 for rent, utilities, accounting fees

[Link: www.washtimes.com...]

623 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:33:58am

re: #621 galloping granny

Happy birthday!

Thanks, granny.

What a long, strange trip it's been.

624 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:34:17am

re: #610 realwest

Dorian is feeling "old and toothless" this morning (heh), but be nice to him.

625 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:34:35am

hey RW

626 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:34:57am

re: #622 Nevergiveup

File this under: The most ETHICAL Congress?

EXCLUSIVE: Pelosi paid husband with PAC funds
$99,000 for rent, utilities, accounting fees

[Link: www.washtimes.com...]

Well, that is pretty much the definition of democrat ethics...

627 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:34:59am

re: #610 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a cool (58 degrees, going up to 74 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning - or should I say later this morning, as I was on until around 2:00AM myself last night, again ?

Hey, RW. The weather sounds great. Hope all is well for you this morning.

628 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:35:21am

Obama is another democrat liar.

Even Bill Clinton has to say it to defend himself.

629 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:35:24am

re: #571 Nevergiveup

Do you think there is any connection with 2 Chicago baseball teams in the playoffs and the economic meltdown? Just saying.

No, but it is one of the seven signs of the apocalypse.

A Philadelphia team winning a championship is the last sign.

630 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:35:28am

re: #620 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, real...gorgeous and cool here in MO...how are you today?

Good morning, scottish.

631 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:35:41am

Hey can anyone help me out here? Music question: there's a TV ad (which is so ineffective I don't even remember what the product is) which features a number of female singers singing an old rock/folk or country rock song which I KNOW but can't remember the name of!
The few lyrics sung in the commercial are:

"Hold On,
just a little bit tighter
Hold On,
don't let go, no, no no!
Hold On,
I love you so much I can't let go

Hold on........................."

Does anyone out here know the name of the original song or who sang it (and no, it's not "Hold On" at least not according to Imeem music site)?!

632 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:36:02am

re: #565 yochanan

two Chicago teams in the post season. I hope the Cubs make it to the 7th game of the world series

and THE ONLY REAL BASEBALL TEAM IN CHICAGO BEATS THEM

NO GOATS, NO CURSES, JUST VICTORY

What he said.

By the way, anybody know who the Yankees are playing this week?

/ducks, runs under desk

DOW down 95 at the open

633 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:36:09am

re: #624 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Dorian is feeling "old and toothless" this morning (heh), but be nice to him.

And starving and I cant chew.... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I am going to starve to death... to death I tell you....................

634 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:36:14am

Good morning all. I just sent an email to Janet Brown at the presidential debates commission, asking that Gwen Ifill be removed from Thursday's debate.

635 pittrader1988  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:36:25am

Cubs and White Sox both in the playoffs. If both make the World Series, dogs and cats will begin sleeping together.

I assume all the conservatives will become Cub fans. Obama and the machine mayor, Richard Daley are Sox fans. (George Will is a Cub fan)

Of course, our machine grimy illicit governor, Rod Blagovich is a Cub fan.
Wish he was watching it from the pokey with Rezco.

636 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:36:27am

re: #630 jorline

Good morning, scottish.

Good morning, jorline...doing well this morning?

637 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:37:21am

Sarah Palin on liberal media mocking her faith:


"I think that there's a lot of mocking of my personal faith," she said. "And my personal faith is very, very simple. I don't belong to any church. I do have a strong belief in God, and I believe that I'm a heck of a lot better off putting my life in God's hands, and saying hey, you know, guide me. What else do we have but guidance that we would seek from a Creator? That's about as simple as it gets with my faith, and I think that there is a lot of mocking of that. And you know, so bet it, though I do have respect for those who have differing views than I do on faith, on religion. I'm not going to mock them, and I would hope that they would kind of I guess give me the same courtesy through this of not mocking a person's faith, but maybe perhaps even trying to understand a little bit of it."

zing.

638 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:37:27am

re: #618 loppyd Hey {loppyd} happy belated Birthday to you! LOL!
Only four? That must explain your youthful good looks, goodlooking!
How are you today?

639 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:37:34am

Later

640 godfrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:37:40am

Good morning lizards

John McCain and Sarah Palin damn well better talk about Obama's role in ACORN and his culpability in the current financial crisis. When he objects, point out his role in Talbot's staff, his taking money, etc., and then enlarge the blow against Dodd et al.

Hit hard.

641 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:37:48am

re: #602 loppyd

Let us know if you get a response. Other than "this message was rejected because the recipient inbox is full"

642 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:38:11am

re: #610 realwest

Good morning, Realwest! Have to run out and make some deliveries, but I hope you have a good morning and a fine day. And if you were up until 2, I also hope you have some fine coffee, as well.

643 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:38:19am

re: #634 Ward Cleaver

Good morning all. I just sent an email to Janet Brown at the presidential debates commission, asking that Gwen Ifill be removed from Thursday's debate.

I am so glad I opened that thread. I am stunned at how OPEN the bias is these days...we are truly back to the roots of American journalism (i.e., blatant political warfare).

So much for the twentieth-century facade of the "impartial press" as the "watchdog".

644 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:38:33am

re: #634 Ward Cleaver

Good morning all. I just sent an email to Janet Brown at the presidential debates commission, asking that Gwen Ifill be removed from Thursday's debate.

Me too. See #602

They will never remove her, but I think if enough people call and write we may convince them to make Ifill divulge the book to the audience.

645 Nevergiveup  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:38:33am

re: #632 3 wood

What he said.

By the way, anybody know who the Yankees are playing this week?

/ducks, runs under desk

DOW down 95 at the open

I didn't know they were still playing baseball. Go Jets!

646 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:38:43am

re: #619 ratso
HEY, ratso! How are ya doing today?

647 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:38:45am

re: #633 doriangrey

And starving and I cant chew.... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I am going to starve to death... to death I tell you....................

*a very gentle grin*
Up-thread, I was going to offer to come over and fix all the breakfast you can eat, BUT you will notice I didn't do that.

/ducking and running really FAST

648 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:39:36am

DEMANDING A SARAH PALIN PRESS CONFERENCE:

Sure, bring it on -- right after Obama takes questions from Bob Owens, Stanley Kurtz, David Freddoso, the Powerline guys, and Hugh Hewitt on the Bill Ayers/Annenberg business.

Oh, and maybe a discussion of his Columbia and Harvard transcripts. Only one candidate is being sheltered from tough press questions with the active complicity of the press.

[Link: www.pajamasmedia.com...]

649 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:39:44am

re: #641 CommonCents

Let us know if you get a response. Other than "this message was rejected because the recipient inbox is full"

Ms. Brown's server: "I'M MELTIIIIIING! I'M MELTIIIIIIIIING!"

650 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:39:46am

re: #631 realwest

Good morning, just sent you an email.

You shot a 76 yesterday. You were a bit shaky on the front 9, spraying a few shots into the trees, but you then adjusted your swing and was only 1 over par on the back

651 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:39:52am

re: #647 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*a very gentle grin*
Up-thread, I was going to offer to come over and fix all the breakfast you can eat, BUT you will notice I didn't do that.

/ducking and running really FAST

Mmmmmmmm, bacon egg and pancake shake.

652 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:40:03am

re: #620 scottishbuzzsaw
Well good morning to you! I'm doing ok, here, but I'm a long way from awake just yet!
How are you doing? And, btw, do you know Typicalwhitey - she's from Mo. too!?

653 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:40:07am

re: #631 realwest

Hey can anyone help me out here? Music question: there's a TV ad (which is so ineffective I don't even remember what the product is) which features a number of female singers singing an old rock/folk or country rock song which I KNOW but can't remember the name of!
The few lyrics sung in the commercial are:

"Hold On,
just a little bit tighter
Hold On,
don't let go, no, no no!
Hold On,
I love you so much I can't let go

Hold on........................."

Does anyone out here know the name of the original song or who sang it (and no, it's not "Hold On" at least not according to Imeem music site)?!

Women you touch my soul now...can't remember who sang it or the name.

Damn, RW...now I'll be singing that song all morning...lol

654 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:40:15am

re: #631 realwest

Tighter, Tighter

655 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:40:31am

re: #638 realwest

Hey {loppyd} happy belated Birthday to you! LOL!
Only four? That must explain your youthful good looks, goodlooking!
How are you today?

{realwest}

Good morning handsome and thanks!

I credit my youthful appearance to drinking lots of water and getting lots of sleep. LOL

656 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:40:40am

re: #636 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, jorline...doing well this morning?

I'm well, scottish and you?

657 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:41:11am

re: #647 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*a very gentle grin*
Up-thread, I was going to offer to come over and fix all the breakfast you can eat, BUT you will notice I didn't do that.

/ducking and running really FAST

Pffffffffffffff

658 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:41:32am

re: #624 pre-Boomer Marine bratGood morning to you and of course I'll be kind to dorian - I've had several teeth pulled and as an adult it sure isn't anything close to being fun!
How are you doing today?

659 Nevergiveup  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:41:32am

re: #655 loppyd

{realwest}

Good morning handsome and thanks!

I credit my youthful appearance to drinking lots of water and getting lots of sleep. LOL

So what your saying is that you pee alot and don't have much of a social life?
/

660 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:41:45am

re: #635 pittrader1988

Of course, our machine grimy illicit governor, Rod Blagovich is a Cub fan.
Wish he was watching it from the pokey with Rezco.

Did you see the other day that Rezco has agreed to testify agaisnt Blago and his wife? Apprently Mrs. Blago has been pocketing some large fees as a real estate agent with some interesting parties.

661 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:42:05am

re: #636 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, jorline...doing well this morning?


Hey Scottish! How are you today?

662 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:42:27am

re: #659 Nevergiveup

hahaha

663 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:42:53am

re: #652 realwest

Well good morning to you! I'm doing ok, here, but I'm a long way from awake just yet!
How are you doing? And, btw, do you know Typicalwhitey - she's from Mo. too!?

I'm doing quite well, considering the epidemic insanity...LGF helps considerably! Yes, I knew TW was in MO, and thanked her for all the work she's been doing regarding our lovely truth squads...staggering arrogance...

664 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:42:57am

re: #564 Pasketti

Hey! Thanks for sharing that to begin with, and coming back with the clarification.

665 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:43:02am

re: #626 doriangrey
Good morning dorian - yeah, we beat that story up pretty good somehwere's around 1:00AM (Eastern) this morning.
BUT - how are you feeling today my friend? (you had a tooth pulled yesterday didn't you?).

666 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:43:53am

re: #659 Nevergiveup

So what your saying is that you pee alot and don't have much of a social life?
/

I resemble that remark!

667 bp sf  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:44:02am

Hey jorline

We had a real good time in San Antonio, South Padre Island, and Austin last week!

Shiner Bock. Brisket. Football. Banana Pudding. "Keep Austin Weird". I love Texas.

668 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:44:26am

re: #658 realwest

Good morning to you and of course I'll be kind to dorian - I've had several teeth pulled and as an adult it sure isn't anything close to being fun!
How are you doing today?

Mouth hurts in spite of the vicodin, dentures dont right yet because of my swollen gums, havent been able to sleep because of the vicodin and to top it all off, I frickin starving my ass off... But other than that pretty damned good...

669 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:44:40am

re: #656 jorline

I'm well, scottish and you?

Doing well, too...it's a glorious fall day here and I think I'll spend some time in the sunshine, away from all news sources...;>)

670 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:44:41am

re: #627 jorline
Good morning my friend - I'm doing ok, thanks, how are you doing?
Is the Ambien helping you get any sleep at all? Are you still feeling as much pain in your joints and bones from the RA as you were ?

671 Semper Gumbi  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:44:47am

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but the Boston Globe has published an op/ed full of lies and distortions about Governor Palin and Rape Kits. Jim Geraghty at The Campaing Spot is urging readers to contact the Globe and force a retraction. He lays out the truths and provides contact information here: Campaign Spot

672 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:45:10am

re: #655 loppyd

{realwest}

Good morning handsome and thanks!

I credit my youthful appearance to drinking lots of water and getting lots of sleep. LOL

How is the wedding planning going? Picked out a spot?
Where did i see some show where the BF got on the Internet and downloaded his Vows? funny stuff..

673 vapig  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:45:24am

re: #546 Rancher

Stan?

stan=satan

674 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:45:45am

re: #614 doriangrey

Actually there was only one person who was angry with me over that. All the other fine lizards that disagreed with me we cordial and polite, even if they disagreed with me.


Dorian imo EIDE is a moby.
He continually hijacks threads, making them all about him.
He said in one post about not caring if they (I believe he meant muslims) beat their women since they felt it was their right ( I am paraphrasing)

The other night he had me extremely upset and when I stated that I hated that my nephew had died in Iraq defending freedom for some who apparently don't appreciate it, his response was:
I DONT CARE.

If you want to defend such a person that is your right.
I however refuse to speak to him ever again.

EVERY time he shows up it becomes all about him.
He is a successful moby I will give him that, but his success is due to people like you who defend him.
He is a demoralizing poster imo.

675 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:45:59am

re: #661 HoosierHoops

Hey Scottish! How are you today?

Just fine, HH, and how are you? Still in love with golf, or did you go sour on it yesterday?

676 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:46:02am

Maybe is Ms. Ifill doesn't divulge her book, Gov. Palin can go ahead and plug it for her.

"Governor Palin, your first question. Do you believe your anti-Semitic, racist, homophobic faith will have any impact on your performance as Vice President if elected?"
"Thank you for that question, Gwen, and first late me state how thrilled and honored I am to be here tonight. And also let me mention how excited I am for your new book, The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama. I know how exciting it must be for you to publish a book on a candidate that is so clearly dear to your heart. In fact, so excited that you would ask me such a demeaning and insulting question. Why don't you step aside and let someone with an ounce of integrity moderate tonight?"

677 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:46:04am

re: #669 scottishbuzzsaw

Doing well, too...it's a glorious fall day here and I think I'll spend some time in the sunshine, away from all news sources...;>)

LOL...smart move. We're about 63 degrees going to 85 today by the beach.

678 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:46:06am

re: #667 bp sf

Hey jorline

We had a real good time in San Antonio, South Padre Island, and Austin last week!

Shiner Bock. Brisket. Football. Banana Pudding. "Keep Austin Weird". I love Texas.

Never been, but it's on the list.

I was in the Dallas airport for a layover once and some troops got a standing ovation from everyone. It was AWESOME!

679 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:46:56am

re: #657 doriangrey

Pffffffffffffff

LOL!

680 godfrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:47:05am

Now this is beer with a pedigree:

A tiny colony of yeast trapped inside a Lebanese weevil covered in ancient Burmese amber for up to 45 million years, has been brought back to life in barrels of beer.

Emeritus Professor Raul Cano of the California Polytechnic State University, originally extracted the yeast a decade ago, along with more than 2000 different kinds of microscopic creatures.

Today, Cano uses the reactivated yeast to brew barrels of pale ale and German wheat beer.

681 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:47:28am

re: #632 3 wood
Why good morning 3 wood! That sure must be a tall desk for you to run under and I sure hope that desk is thick enough to handle this little present of C-4 I just chucked your way! LOL!

682 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:47:38am

re: #672 HoosierHoops

How is the wedding planning going? Picked out a spot?
Where did i see some show where the BF got on the Internet and downloaded his Vows? funny stuff..

Hi there!

We are looking at three more places this weekend and hopefully making a decision by the end of next week.

That is funny about the vows. We will not be writing out own. It's going to be a quick ceremony.

683 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:47:56am

Off to the bank and PO - BBL

684 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:48:11am

re: #658 realwest

Good morning to you and of course I'll be kind to dorian - I've had several teeth pulled and as an adult it sure isn't anything close to being fun!
How are you doing today?

I'm fine, thank you.
How's the gasoline situation in Charlotte? Any improvement?

685 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:48:14am

re: #606 lifeofthemind

The opposite, the Democrats have the passionate certainty of a faith that does not need to consider reality and does not respect civilized work.

most are informed connivers waiting to amass gov't money to skim from before they distribute it to the tethered masses groomed to wait for a handout.
any people w/ a real sense of altruism are spit out of the dem system or ground up in it.
they don't consider reality. they are dispensers or takers of that which isn't theirs.

686 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:48:20am

re: #631 realwest

It was called Tighter and tighter by Alive and Kick'n

687 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:48:27am

re: #674 Typicalwhitey

Hi TypicalWhitey! How are you doing this fine day?

688 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:48:31am

re: #676 OldLineTexan

Maybe is Ms. Ifill doesn't divulge her book, Gov. Palin can go ahead and plug it for her.

"Governor
Palin, your first question. Do you believe your anti-Semitic, racist,
homophobic faith will have any impact on your performance as Vice
President if elected?"
"Thank you for that question, Gwen, and first
late me state how thrilled and honored I am to be here tonight. And
also let me mention how excited I am for your new book, The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.
I know how exciting it must be for you to publish a book on a candidate
that is so clearly dear to your heart. In fact, so excited that you
would ask me such a demeaning and insulting question. Why don't you
step aside and let someone with an ounce of integrity moderate tonight?"

That would be brilliant! The American people, aside from the hard-core left, have a very low opinion of the MSM & playing into that would work well for Palin.

689 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:48:43am

re: #670 realwest

Good morning my friend - I'm doing ok, thanks, how are you doing?
Is the Ambien helping you get any sleep at all? Are you still feeling as much pain in your joints and bones from the RA as you were ?

I'm still having morning stiffness in my fingers and wrist, but after I take my meds the pain works it's way out by mid morning.

Thanks to you and the Ambian I'm sleeping like a baby...lol

690 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:49:08am

re: #612 galloping granny

If you vote twice, throw out both.

691 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:49:22am

re: #563 doriangrey

Fox and friends doing a story about one the the Marines accused by Murtha of being a cold blooded killer who is suing Murtha... I hope he takes Murtha for every single penny he has ever stolen from the American people...

I think "stolen" is a bit strong.

Howabout, "pried from our un-wielding fingers in broad daylight".

692 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:49:25am

way to go 3, hello by the way re: #686 3 wood

693 vapig  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:49:41am

re: #676 OldLineTexan

Maybe is Ms. Ifill doesn't divulge her book, Gov. Palin can go ahead and plug it for her.

"Governor Palin, your first question. Do you believe your anti-Semitic, racist, homophobic faith will have any impact on your performance as Vice President if elected?"
"Thank you for that question, Gwen, and first late me state how thrilled and honored I am to be here tonight. And also let me mention how excited I am for your new book, The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama. I know how exciting it must be for you to publish a book on a candidate that is so clearly dear to your heart. In fact, so excited that you would ask me such a demeaning and insulting question. Why don't you step aside and let someone with an ounce of integrity moderate tonight?"

Send that to her (Palin) people, would you?

/ just in case

694 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:50:26am

re: #687 HoosierHoops

Hi TypicalWhitey! How are you doing this fine day?


Up and ready to fight the good fight!
Michelle Obambi is in town today and so is Senator McCain.

695 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:50:29am

re: #681 realwest

Why good morning 3 wood! That sure must be a tall desk for you to run under and I sure hope that desk is thick enough to handle this little present of C-4 I just chucked your way! LOL!

I thought that would get you going.

696 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:50:34am

re: #689 jorline

I'm still having morning stiffness in my fingers and wrist, but after I take my meds the pain works it's way out by mid morning.

Thanks to you and the Ambian I'm sleeping like a baby...lol

You're waking up four times a night with a wet diaper, crying for a bottle?

/ducks

697 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:50:54am

re: #675 scottishbuzzsaw

Just fine, HH, and how are you? Still in love with golf, or did you go sour on it yesterday?

I can't believe that 3 wood got bored with Golf! lol
How can being outside with your buddies drinking a beer and smoking a cigar and hitting little white balls around be boring?
LOL

698 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:51:14am

re: #642 Pullus Iulius
Why thank you - I hope you have a great day and that I get the chance to see ya later on!
And yes I'm now on my 3rd MUG of coffee. Sigh. Still not fully awake yet.

699 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:51:24am

re: #692 ratso

Good morning ratso, I hope you are doing well today.

700 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:51:39am

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701 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:04am

re: #689 jorline

I'm still having morning stiffness in my fingers and wrist, but after I take my meds the pain works it's way out by mid morning.

Thanks to you and the Ambian I'm sleeping like a baby...lol

Like Steven Wright's line...

"Someone asked me if I slept well last night. I said, "I made a few mistakes."

702 HDrepub  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:11am

Email the executive director of the debates commission if you haven't already, and make your concern known about the questionable impartiality, and conflict of interest of the moderator, Gwen Ifill. Do it, please, it's very important, the debate is tomorrow night.

703 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:15am

I'm sure this was already mentioned but I didn't see it in the previous thread. Ms. Ifill was chief congressional and political correspondent for NBC News, and had been a reporter for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Baltimore Sun, and Boston Herald American.

That should ease any fears of bias. /sarc

704 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:29am

re: #693 vapig

Send that to her (Palin) people, would you?

/ just in case


Actually Greta send them an email last night and the McCain campaign had NOT been told of this book deal!

here

snip:

oh - oh !
by Greta Van Susteren
I confirmed for us here on GretaWire: the McCain campaign did NOT know about Gwen Ifill’s book (I think I told them when I made my efforts - emails about midnight - to find out!) I am stunned….the campaign (actually both) should have been told before the campaign agreed to have her moderate. It simply is not fair - in law, this would create a mistrial.
705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:35am

re: #529 3 wood

Hey 3, did you see this crap? IMF adds to pressure on Congress to approve bail-out

These are the same bastards that, almost a year to the day, were literally giving the green-light to the Euro currency and equity traders to short the dollar and US markets while their own currency, equity & housing markets were being pumped-up and overly-inflated by, especially, the oil-ticks. Now, as a result of the slow-down and show-down in the markets, they’ve just figured out what kind of position this puts them in, they want to squeeze us into making a mistake that will no doubt hurt us - but in terms of absolute consequence - will almost assuredly send them down the hole into economic oblivion. Dumb fluks.

706 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:38am

re: #632 3 wood

What he said.

By the way, anybody know who the Yankees are playing this week?

/ducks, runs under desk

DOW down 95 at the open

Good luck Chicago teams but I think we shall see the Red Sox and Dodgers in the World Series...

As for me and my team of misfits, they blew it again... And the OF walls ar egone from Shea Stadium... Seats coming out... Every inch of the stadium is for sale... Very sad...

707 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:45am

Mornin' Wood!

(or should I say "Mourning Wood.")

708 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:54am

ya know several of my golf shirts have cigar burns on the shoulder from driving while smoking (DWS). re: #697 HoosierHoops

I can't believe that 3 wood got bored with Golf! lol
How can being outside with your buddies drinking a beer and smoking a cigar and hitting little white balls around be boring?
LOL

709 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:52:55am

re: #696 OldLineTexan

You're waking up four times a night with a wet diaper, crying for a bottle?

/ducks

SHEESH!
/ducking too, to keep from getting hit by a stray shot

710 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:53:10am
711 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:53:52am

re: #650 3 wood
Ah, not a bad round, especially given how pissed off I was at the Congress on the front nine!
How'd you do?! LOL!

712 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:54:01am

August 5, 2008

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Paul G. Kirk, Jr. and Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr., co-chairmen of the non-partisan Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD), today announced the moderators for the 2008 general election presidential and vice presidential debates. The moderators, and the schedule and locations for the debates (as announced on November 21, 2007), are as follows:

First presidential debate
Friday, September 26
The University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.
Jim Lehrer
Executive Editor and Anchor, The NewsHour, PBS

Vice presidential debate
Thursday, October 2
Washington University in St. Louis, Mo.
Gwen Ifill
Senior Correspondent, The NewsHour, and Moderator and Managing Editor, Washington Week, PBS

Second presidential debate (town meeting)
Tuesday, October 7
Belmont University, Nashville, Tenn.
Tom Brokaw
Special Correspondent, NBC News

Third presidential debate
Wednesday, October 15
Hofstra University, Hempstead, N.Y.
Bob Schieffer
CBS News Chief Washington Correspondent, and Host, Face the Nation

*****************
When did Ifill write her book? Submit it to the publisher?

713 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:54:10am

re: #694 Typicalwhitey

Up and ready to fight the good fight!
Michelle Obambi is in town today and so is Senator McCain.


Oh..I'd love to see McCain! Obama came to our little town during the primaries and i went and saw him at the high school..Secret service everywhere...probably the biggest thing to ever hit our town...

714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:54:17am

re: #706 tfc3rid

Good luck Chicago teams but I think we shall see the Red Sox and Dodgers in the World Series...

As
for me and my team of misfits, they blew it again... And the OF walls
ar egone from Shea Stadium... Seats coming out... Every inch of the
stadium is for sale... Very sad...

Are they selling parts of the stadium to the general public? I still regret not buying a pair of seats from Veteran's Stadium.

715 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:54:49am

DOW is down 111.

I understand that the Senate bill includes the increase of the FDIC insurance to $250,000.

Ultimately, I would like to see a market exchange desk opened up for these mortgage securities. We can see a clear price for stocks, for bonds, for commodities. I want to see an exchange desk created for these mortgage backed securities too, that would eliminate any question of what they are worth.


Loopyd, congrats on your engagement.

In bad news, LIBOR was up to 6.87 yesterday.

716 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:55:15am

re: #696 OldLineTexan

You're waking up four times a night with a wet diaper, crying for a bottle?

/ducks

LOL...forget the bottle, I'm a breast feed baby.

717 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:55:16am

re: #712 MandyManners

It's on sale 1/20/2009, and you can pre-order at Amazon now. I can't imagine it wasn't in the works well before Aug. 5.

718 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:55:57am

re: #715 3 wood

When I was a boy (when dinosaurs roamed the earth, IIRC) the FDIC insured accounts for up to 40k. People who had 80K would have two accounts.

719 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:56:16am

re: #714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Are they selling parts of the stadium to the general public? I still regret not buying a pair of seats from Veteran's Stadium.

Yes... $869 for a pair of seats...

720 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:56:27am

re: #716 jorline

LOL...forget the bottle, I'm a breast feed baby.

Ours all were, but I thought it a bit early for THAT kind of thread.

/

721 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:57:04am

re: #710 taxfreekiller

How are you doing today?

722 Miss Trixie  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:57:06am

Good morning {realwest} *smoochie*

Looks like you could use a large coffee ... it's on me and should fix you riiiiiiight up.

Wait 'til you see yer glazed donut ... :D

723 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:57:42am

re: #712 MandyManners

August 5, 2008

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Paul G. Kirk, Jr. and Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr., co-chairmen of the non-partisan Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD), today announced the moderators for the 2008 general election presidential and vice presidential debates. The moderators, and the schedule and locations for the debates (as announced on November 21, 2007), are as follows:

First presidential debate
Friday, September 26
The University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.
Jim Lehrer
Executive Editor and Anchor, The NewsHour, PBS

Vice presidential debate
Thursday, October 2
Washington University in St. Louis, Mo.
Gwen Ifill
Senior Correspondent, The NewsHour, and Moderator and Managing Editor, Washington Week, PBS

Second presidential debate (town meeting)
Tuesday, October 7
Belmont University, Nashville, Tenn.
Tom Brokaw
Special Correspondent, NBC News

Third presidential debate
Wednesday, October 15
Hofstra University, Hempstead, N.Y.
Bob Schieffer
CBS News Chief Washington Correspondent, and Host, Face the Nation

*****************
When did Ifill write her book? Submit it to the publisher?

No clue, but she already has a publication date.

724 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:57:46am

re: #717 OldLineTexan

It's on sale 1/20/2009, and you can pre-order at Amazon now. I can't imagine it wasn't in the works well before Aug. 5.

Does the committee that selects moderators live in a vaccuum?

725 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:57:50am

re: #713 HoosierHoops

Oh..I'd love to see McCain! Obama came to our little town during the primaries and i went and saw him at the high school..Secret service everywhere...probably the biggest thing to ever hit our town...

I have seen McCain twice now.
And bored everyone by repeating my story over and over LOL

726 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:58:18am

re: #653 jorline
"Woman you touch my soul now" yeah, I THINK that's part of it! Thanks jorline! I are DETERMINED to find that damn song and play it until it leaves my head, too!
Funny thing is, the first time the commercial was on, three bars into it and I was singing harmony to it!
(good thing about getting older - commercials are finally using some "oldies" type music that I can sing along to - to Mom's consternation or surprise! LOL!).

727 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:58:25am

Final Shea Stadium Price List..

Your text to link...

728 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:58:27am

re: #723 galloping granny

No clue, but she already has a publication date.

What are the criteria for selecting moderators? I've looked buy I've not found anything.

729 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:58:52am

re: #637 loppyd

That's from Hugh Hewitt's interview of her yesterday, which was very good, BTW. I was disappointed to hear that Track hasn't called her since he deployed, even though he's apparently talked to his girlfriend a couple of times.

730 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:59:00am

re: #719 tfc3rid

Yes... $869 for a pair of seats...

That's less than what you paid for the non-existant playoff tickets, no? At least these seats will be real!

731 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:59:02am

re: #717 OldLineTexan

It's on sale 1/20/2009, and you can pre-order at Amazon now. I can't imagine it wasn't in the works well before Aug. 5.

She probably got the idea last Friday and wrote the whole book last weekend.

732 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:59:07am

hey hoops, what little town in indiana are you in? just curious

733 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:59:15am

re: #715 3 wood

DOW is down 111.

I understand that the Senate bill includes the increase of the FDIC insurance to $250,000.

Ultimately, I would like to see a market exchange desk opened up for these mortgage securities. We can see a clear price for stocks, for bonds, for commodities. I want to see an exchange desk created for these mortgage backed securities too, that would eliminate any question of what they are worth.


Loopyd, congrats on your engagement.

In bad news, LIBOR was up to 6.87 yesterday.

Does it seem odd to you that the market was up all day yesterday after the defeat of the bill, opened at 10800+ this morning and is now sinking like a stone since they announced that the Senate will take up the bill today?

734 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:59:16am

re: #601 DaddyG

They have been ordered to segregate the ballots until a court challenge decides if they can be counted or not. The law is being challenged. (Article linked at drudge... Matt should thank LGF for all the extra traffic today...)


I thought that the court already dismissed the Republican challenge or was that just the challenge to stop the voting?

735 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:59:44am

re: #724 MandyManners

Does the committee that selects moderators live in a vaccuum?

I'll bet they didn't know about it (lazy).

736 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 6:59:48am

re: #704 Typicalwhitey

The question NOW is, did the debate commission know about the book before they made Ifill the moderator?

737 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:00:05am

Does anybody else think something is rotten in Ohio?
Voting for president begins in pivotal Ohio

738 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:00:27am

re: #705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hey 3, did you see this crap? IMF adds to pressure on Congress to approve bail-out

These are the same bastards that, almost a year to the day, were literally giving the green-light to the Euro currency and equity traders to short the dollar and US markets while their own currency, equity & housing markets were being pumped-up and overly-inflated by, especially, the oil-ticks. Now, as a result of the slow-down and show-down in the markets, they’ve just figured out what kind of position this puts them in, they want to squeeze us into making a mistake that will no doubt hurt us - but in terms of absolute consequence - will almost assuredly send them down the hole into economic oblivion. Dumb fluks.

Yes. It boils down to this. If you think the US financial market has problems, you ain't seen nothing yet. We are way ahead of Europe and the Asian markets in identify the damage and taking active steps to deal with it.

The rest of the world has done almost nothing yet. In addition, the rest of the world does not have the same monetary policy tools we have to deal with this (won't bore you with the technicalities why here, Charles does not have the bandwidth, just take my word for it).

So the whole rest of the world is standing back hoping and praying that we deal with this and fast.

It's like in To Kill a Mocking Bird when the whole town hid and waited for Atticus to shoot the rabid dog that was threatening the town.

739 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:00:29am

re: #736 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The question NOW is, did the debate commission know about the book before they made Ifill the moderator?

I don't know.

But the MCCAIN CAMPAIGN did NOT!

740 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:01:09am

re: #730 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's less than what you paid for the non-existant playoff tickets, no? At least these seats will be real!

Yes... My full set of PostSeaon tix cost me $2660... But at least my fullseasons are already paid for in Citi Field for 2009!

741 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:01:24am

re: #708 ratso

ya know several of my golf shirts have cigar burns on the shoulder from driving while smoking (DWS).


Golf shirts ain't cheap...Mostly we got us cow pastures to play on around here..crappy courses except for one here or there..
I am proud to say I've played Pebble beach and Sedona once each..
I can now die in peace....

742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:02:00am

re: #738 3 wood

I still think that Al Pacino was shouting "Atticus! Atticus!" in "Dog Day Afternoon".

743 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:02:08am

re: #718 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I was a boy (when dinosaurs roamed the earth, IIRC) the FDIC insured accounts for up to 40k. People who had 80K would have two accounts.

You could do that in the same institution then.

I used to buy $500,000 of CD's at a crack for my employer and would cut them up into 5 CD's to get the insurance. In the early 90's they changed the insurance to $100,000 institution wide.

744 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:02:35am

re: #741 HoosierHoops
they wanted 190 in the early eighties to play pebble beach

745 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:02:44am

Good morning all.

More creepiness from the left.

746 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:02:57am

re: #720 OldLineTexan

Ours all were, but I thought it a bit early for THAT kind of thread.

/

Boob thread all day...we'll be talking about the boobs in Washington this afternoon.

747 HDrepub  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:03:19am

re: #739 Typicalwhitey

I don't know.

But the MCCAIN CAMPAIGN did NOT!


Who is running the campaign? Some heads should roll over this.
In the meantime email the executive of the Debates Commission and make your concerns known.

748 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:03:23am

re: #735 Ward Cleaver

I'll bet they didn't know about it (lazy).

Or, maybe they just don't care? Have you looked at the list of directors?

Co-Chairmen

Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr.
Paul G. Kirk, Jr.

Honorary Co-Chairmen

Gerald R. Ford†
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan†
William J. Clinton

Board of Directors

Howard Buffett
John C. Danforth
Antonia Hernandez
Caroline Kennedy
Michael D. McCurry
Newton N. Minow
Dorothy Ridings
Alan K. Simpson
H. Patrick Swygert

Executive Director

Janet H. Brown

749 celtic templar  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:03:45am

re: #706 tfc3rid

Good luck Chicago teams but I think we shall see the Red Sox and Dodgers in the World Series...

As for me and my team of misfits, they blew it again... And the OF walls ar egone from Shea Stadium... Seats coming out... Every inch of the stadium is for sale... Very sad...

So long suckas! See ya next Spring.

/Phillies fan ;)

750 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:04:15am

re: #748 MandyManners

Maybe they cleared it through Reagan and Ford.

751 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:04:31am

re: #654 redstateredneck
Hey {Red} THANK YOU SO MUCH! That's it!
How are ya today?!

752 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:04:43am

re: #726 realwest

"Woman you touch my soul now" yeah, I THINK that's part of it! Thanks jorline! I are DETERMINED to find that damn song and play it until it leaves my head, too!
Funny thing is, the first time the commercial was on, three bars into it and I was singing harmony to it!
(good thing about getting older - commercials are finally using some "oldies" type music that I can sing along to - to Mom's consternation or surprise! LOL!).

RW, see redstateredneck's #654 for the linky.

753 cliffster  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:04:56am

Senate getting ready for their headless-chicken-run today. Harry Reid is running his mouth, but I can't hear what he's saying.

754 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:05:10am
755 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:05:33am

re: #740 tfc3rid

Yes... My full set of PostSeaon tix cost me $2660... But at least my fullseasons are already paid for in Citi Field for 2009!

I'm surprised they aren't selling the dirt from the infield! If they sell any of the Spectrum, I will buy something, even a glass of melted ice!

756 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:05:46am

re: #654 redstateredneck

Tighter, Tighter

Songfacts.com is a really cool website.

757 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:05:59am

re: #654 redstateredneck
And here it is in it's full glory! LOL!
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

758 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:06:00am

re: #739 Typicalwhitey

I don't know.

But the MCCAIN CAMPAIGN did NOT!

Yeah, but see Mandy's post just up-thread re the date of the announcement (last year) of the moderators.

Did Ifill begin writing the book after she was picked as moderator?

If so, did she notify the debate commission about it at that time?

When did the debate commission learn of the book's existence?

Did the commission hold any internal discussions at that time about the conflict of interest?

The questions go on and on ....

759 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:06:09am

re: #745 FrogMarch

Good morning all.

More creepiness from the left.

If that's not a parody, then the creep o'meter just broke...

760 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:06:21am

re: #751 realwest

Hey {Red} THANK YOU SO MUCH! That's it!
How are ya today?!

I'm good, sugah, and it is my pleasure to be of service!

761 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:06:22am
762 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:06:35am

Fahrenkopf

Kirk (He's a superdelegate for BHO.)

763 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:07:13am

re: #676 OldLineTexan

Maybe is Ms. Ifill doesn't divulge her book, Gov. Palin can go ahead and plug it for her.

"Governor Palin, your first question. Do you believe your anti-Semitic, racist, homophobic faith will have any impact on your performance as Vice President if elected?"
"Thank you for that question, Gwen, and first late me state how thrilled and honored I am to be here tonight. And also let me mention how excited I am for your new book, The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama. I know how exciting it must be for you to publish a book on a candidate that is so clearly dear to your heart. In fact, so excited that you would ask me such a demeaning and insulting question. Why don't you step aside and let someone with an ounce of integrity moderate tonight?"


That my friend is beautiful. The Dems are like a kid playing a game of HORSE & demanding to be spotted the H & the O & the media gives it to em.

764 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:07:29am

re: #747 HDrepub

Who is running the campaign? Some heads should roll over this.
In the meantime email the executive of the Debates Commission and make your concerns known.

I already did.
You cannot blame the campaign on this there is no way they could have known of this.
The commission, who they apparently trusted, should have revealed this, that is if THEY knew.

765 celtic templar  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:07:42am

re: #761 ploome hineni

...........does anyone understand this? list of headlines from Drudge

Putin lashes out at America for its economic failures...
of course
DER SPIEGEL: USA Loses Its Dominant Economic Role...
from nazi to socialist (all those East Germans) and they still resent us
Clinton: 'Commerce Could Stop'...
'Is testosterone to blame for the financial crisis?'
why not
PAPER: 'Propping up banks will not save a debauched system'...
when you were making money it was ok, but now...?
Senate to vote on rescue plan with added tax cut...
sigh
Soros floats alternative bailout plan with Dems...
the wizard of OZ comes out from behaind the curtain
Euro Declines Most Against Dollar Since Inception...
why is the dollar stronger now?

You need your own business show Ploome ... This sums up everything I read this morning very well.

766 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:08:30am

re: #727 tfc3rid

Final Shea Stadium Price List..

Your text to link...

I was looking through that yesterday. I'll wait for the clearance sale. I'd love to get a section sign, but $500 for the Upper Deck is too much. Maybe I could get a $35 napkin holder. I doubt I could convince Mrs. Watchmen that we should get the locker used by Seaver, Darling, Franco & Heilman for $41,000.

767 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:09:05am

re: #668 doriangrey
Hey - try drinking Ensure - seriously at least the chocolate tastes good ok! And it does provide all the vitamens and protein you need.
Hadda go to the Ensure for the first week after I had each of my four teeth pulled over the last two years!

768 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:09:11am

re: #755 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm surprised they aren't selling the dirt from the infield! If they sell any of the Spectrum, I will buy something, even a glass of melted ice!

I'm not buying anything... Nothing for me, no place to put it...

I'll just take my new season tix for next year, my new spot in my nice, new beautiful stadium...

769 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:09:22am
770 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:09:39am

re: #726 realwest

(good thing about getting older - commercials are finally using some "oldies" type music that I can sing along to - to Mom's consternation or surprise! LOL!).


The thing is, though, the young people just think that those songs are the jingles for whatever product they're advertising. They don't know those are real songs. I'll take off singing the rest of it and my 18 year old looks at me like WTF?
:D

771 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:09:42am

Harry Reid on FOX...he's such a wuss.

772 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:10:32am
773 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:10:45am

re: #761 ploome hineni

...........does anyone understand this? list of headlines from Drudge

Putin lashes out at America for its economic failures...
of course
DER SPIEGEL: USA Loses Its Dominant Economic Role...
from nazi to socialist (all those East Germans) and they still resent us
Clinton: 'Commerce Could Stop'...
'Is testosterone to blame for the financial crisis?'
why not
PAPER: 'Propping up banks will not save a debauched system'...
when you were making money it was ok, but now...?
Senate to vote on rescue plan with added tax cut...
sigh
Soros floats alternative bailout plan with Dems...
the wizard of OZ comes out from behaind the curtain
Euro Declines Most Against Dollar Since Inception...
why is the dollar stronger now?


The other day the Public Radio station here in Philly interviewed Mikhail Gorbachev about the economic crisis. If anyone knows about an economy collapsing, it's Gorbachev!

774 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:10:57am

re: #766 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I was looking through that yesterday. I'll wait for the clearance sale. I'd love to get a section sign, but $500 for the Upper Deck is too much. Maybe I could get a $35 napkin holder. I doubt I could convince Mrs. Watchmen that we should get the locker used by Seaver, Darling, Franco & Heilman for $41,000.

If anything, I'd like the ramp signs with the cartoon Mr. Met saying 'Thanks for Coming to Shea!'

775 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:11:02am

gov. palin needs to give a short answer to every question but spend most of her time explaining to the public, exactly who obama is. make it plain what he has done. who he associates w/. how dangerous he is for our country.
palin needs to stop ifil in her tracks if she tries an underhanded gotcha trick. palin should just look into the camera and laugh and call her on it.
the public would love it.
palin must show she can take these scum on. she will rally the people if she does.
voters are waiting for her to take charge.

776 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:11:11am
777 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:11:41am
778 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:11:47am
779 UFO TOFU  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:11:47am

Good article on the financial situation, in terms even I can understand: [Link: www.cnn.com...]

780 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:12:31am

re: #775 nyc redneck

gov. palin needs to give a short answer to every question but spend most of her time explaining to the public, exactly who obama is. make it plain what he has done. who he associates w/. how dangerous he is for our country.
palin needs to stop ifil in her tracks if she tries an underhanded gotcha trick. palin should just look into the camera and laugh and call her on it.
the public would love it.
palin must show she can take these scum on. she will rally the people if she does.
voters are waiting for her to take charge.

We know that Joe Biden is going to lash out at John McCain relentlessly... Why not... this is her only chance...

781 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:12:45am

re: #773 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The other day the Public Radio station here in Philly interviewed Mikhail Gorbachev about the economic crisis. If anyone knows about an economy collapsing, it's Gorbachev!

My (amateurish) understanding of the Russian problems is that there has been a flight from investments there due to Russian "adventures" in Georgia and related fears. Anyone able to confirm/deny?

782 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:12:52am

Sen. McCain, Gov. Palin:

You have my support, but you appear to need some advice. Here are words that are not mine, but have inspired at least two generations of patriotic and concerned American citizens:

Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more.

General George S. Patton

Be advised that your Democrat friends are well aware of the wisdom of this quote.

783 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:13:16am

re: #776 taxfreekiller

Sounds like New Orleans and Memphis.

As for that poster, we've decided to cut off his narcissistic supply and put him in a cone of silence.

784 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:13:17am
785 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:13:20am

re: #733 galloping granny

Does it seem odd to you that the market was up all day yesterday after the defeat of the bill, opened at 10800+ this morning and is now sinking like a stone since they announced that the Senate will take up the bill today?

Not really. The market tends to discount ahead.

Yesterday the market jumped on several things:

1. There was too much panic on Monday and many stocks were oversold. Some people were snapping up bargains.

2. They were pricing in the anticipation of the mark to market change and the increase of the FDIC.

3. Anticipation that after Monday's bloodbath, Congress might wake up and actually deal with this now, thus loosening the credit markets.

4. Pricing in a probable 0.50% discount rate cut by the Fed's.

The market is down today cause:

1. Profit taking off of yesterday.

2. Fear that Congress (especially the House) will still screw this thing up.

3. That Obama will win and tax rates will go up.

The reality is sinking is with a lot of the major players that, though we would rather not have to do this, the only real way out of this is to buy up some of this stuff and work it out.

Gingrich admitted that last night on O'Reilly and changed his position on the "monstrosity" as he called it. Now he wants it passed.

Granny, I'm not any smarter than anybody else, and actually dumber than many.

I just come to a conclusion based on the facts as I can see them quicker than many.

I wish we did not have to do the "bail out" as it is called. 6 months ago this would have been easier to fix. 1 month ago this would have been a lot easier to fix. But we are dealing with the here and now.

Businesses are actually starting to shut down and lay off cause they can't get short term financing for A?P and payroll.

786 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:13:41am

Scene: The set for Thursday night's VP debate

Camera pans

Podium -- Sara Palin

Podium -- Joseph Biden

Podium -- empty

Camera zooms to the third podium

A hand grenade laying on the podium, no pin, lever laying on the floor

/if I was a DNC official, I'd be sweating right about now

787 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:04am

Morning all. Call me slow and unobservant, but I just noticed that the Hippie and terrorist were missing from the LGF banner. Anybody know when and why Charles removed them?

788 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:04am

re: #674 Typicalwhitey

Dorian imo EIDE is a moby.
He continually hijacks threads, making them all about him.
He said in one post about not caring if they (I believe he meant muslims) beat their women since they felt it was their right ( I am paraphrasing)

The other night he had me extremely upset and when I stated that I hated that my nephew had died in Iraq defending freedom for some who apparently don't appreciate it, his response was:
I DONT CARE.

If you want to defend such a person that is your right.
I however refuse to speak to him ever again.

EVERY time he shows up it becomes all about him.
He is a successful moby I will give him that, but his success is due to people like you who defend him.
He is a demoralizing poster imo.

It's not about defending him so much as it is about having a different perspective on people. I dont think he is a troll or a moby. I'm a production supervisor where I work, I have several people that work for me that are quite a bit like EIDE. They are crude, abrupt tactless and very insensitive. But it doesn't make them bad people.

The way you guys were reacting last night I have to wonder how much time you spend with young men in their mid 20's to early thirties (who are not related to you). They dont deal very well with being attacked, their natural response it to get belligerent and attack back. You would be utterly amazed at how many young American men are exactly like EIDE. Like I said, I am a production supervisor I deal with conflict on a daily basis.

I'm pretty successful at it so I like to think that I am a pretty good judge of character. EIDE is callous and insensitive I admit that. but that doesnt make him a bad person or a troll or a moby. I have read a lot of his postings and feel pretty confident that you guys are judging him way to harshly. You dont change people mind or attitudes by yelling and screaming at them, by attacking their character or telling them that they are complete fucking loosers and assholes. all you do is make them hostile and belligerent. And you guys have spent the last two days doing one hell of a bang up job doing just that.

While I suspect you would have been shocked to learn that your son could be crude and insensitive I seriously doubt you would have stood still for the kind of or amount of abuse that was being heaped on EIDE being thrown at your son.

I am a glass half full kind of person, I look for the good in a person until I have it indisputably proven to me that there really is not good in them. In my 47 years I have found very few people who didn't have far more good in them then bad. I found the way people were ganging up on EIDE somewhat distressing since they were making no attempt to reason with him or change his opinions. Attack attack attack, kill the troll. Without even knowing if he was in fact a troll, or just your common garden variety of crude insensitive guy.

789 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:05am

re: #684 pre-Boomer Marine bratNope, no improvement at all all in the gas situation in Charlotte and environs. Stations that usually get 25,000 gallons of gas in a normal delivery have only been able to get like 9,000 gallons now - so within a day they are out of gas again - and the lines just get longer and longer and longer.
Effin' yuppies, filling up their cars when they already have 3/4 of a full tank and don't have to drive to work!
GRRRRRR!

790 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:14am

re: #781 eschew_obfuscation

My (amateurish)
understanding of the Russian problems is that there has been a flight
from investments there due to Russian "adventures" in Georgia and
related fears. Anyone able to confirm/deny?

I'm just worried that Russia will react to their economic woes the way the react to any bad domestic news - invade someplace.

791 godfrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:26am

re: #772 ploome hineni

The Eurozone is tipping into recession, they're tied to the financial mess, and EU regulations are stifling business.

792 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:38am

re: #727 tfc3rid

I have a bunch of photos up from when I was there for the last game. I also put together a panoramic photo taken just before the closing ceremony.

793 Dead Man Voting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:47am

Can someone explain how the Senate vote on a bailout plan does not fly in the face of Article I Section 7 of the Constitution?

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills

794 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:14:58am

re: #772 ploome hineni

can anyone explain why the dollar is stronger against the euro today?

Not to be flip, but isn't it because our house of cards is better than their house of cards?

Or maybe it's because the American public noticed that a good deal of the bail-out money was for overseas banks?

Or maybe they think it really will be a War for Oil, and we're the only ones that can wage it?

Maybe Soros is upset at them?

795 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:15:24am

re: #764 Typicalwhitey

I already did.
You cannot blame the campaign on this there is no way they could have known of this.
The commission, who they apparently trusted, should have revealed this, that is if THEY knew.


The thing that can not be debated is that Gwen Iffel was aware of her own conflict of interest. She had an obligation to turn down the assignment. Obama & his upporters are making up the rules as they go & seem to have no shame

796 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:15:28am

re: #686 3 wood
Yep, thanks - but redstaterneck got it first! I'm listening to it now! Thanks though!

797 HDrepub  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:15:33am

re: #764 Typicalwhitey

I already did.
You cannot blame the campaign on this there is no way they could have known of this.
The commission, who they apparently trusted, should have revealed this, that is if THEY knew.

OK I'll give McCain's campaign a little more leeway, but to date I think McCain is running a bad campaign.

798 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:15:35am
799 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:15:45am

re: #777 ploome hineni

wuss? WUSS?

HE IS A DINGY POS

LOL...morning, ploome.

800 formercorpsman  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:15:59am

re: #755 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Beer, that whole situation bums me out.

So many concerts, games, etc.

801 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:16:34am
802 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:16:49am

re: #792 lawhawk

I have a bunch of photos up from when I was there for the last game. I also put together a panoramic photo taken just before the closing ceremony.

I'll check them out... I was there as well and it soul crushing... Rough day... I have about 300 pics that I still have to put online. Got to talk to Ron Darling pregame for about 10 minutes... Genuinely nice guy... Did not think the Mets had a prayer that day...

803 jorline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:17:09am

re: #784 ploome hineni

and I think he feels up Pelousey when no one watches

I don't know about that, he seems much to submissive.

804 jwb7605  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:17:27am

re: #737 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Does anybody else think something is rotten in Ohio?
Voting for president begins in pivotal Ohio

It might be getting worse:

Boulder County registration tops 2000/day

Michelle Obama will be at CU today

805 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:17:45am
806 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:17:45am

Crumbling Financial Giants Gave Generously To Dodd

Snips

Financial-sector firms — mortgage firms, insurance companies, accountants, brokerage houses, hedge funds — are among the most generous political donors in America, lavishing more than $1 billion on candidates this decade. And in Congress, few politicians have fared better than Dodd. During the past 20 years, PACs and employees of finance-related firms have contributed more than $13 million to Dodd's election efforts, including nearly $6 million in the past two years. Among members of Congress, only leading presidential candidates — Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain and John Kerry — have collected more money from the sector.


and

Eighteen of Dodd's top 20 corporate benefactors are finance or insurance companies, and more than half of his campaign funds in the past six years have come from those industries.

The largesse is so great that Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank, writing earlier this year about the collapse of Bear Stearns, identified the senator not as "Dodd (D-Conn.)," but as "Dodd (D-$5,796,000)" — a reference to recent contributions from financial interests.

This crook is running the show today.

Makes me want to hurl.

807 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:18:06am

re: #694 Typicalwhitey

Up and ready to fight the good fight!
Michelle Obambi is in town today and so is Senator McCain.

Where you at?

808 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:18:12am

Newton N. Minow

He is Senior Counsel in the Chicago headquartered law firm of Sidley Austin LLP (formerly Sidley and Austin prior to a merger with Brown and Wood), a large international law firm with multiple areas of expertise, including telecommunications related law. Between 1965 and 1991, he was a managing partner in the law firm before becoming Senior Counsel in 1991.[12]

809 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:18:16am

re: #775 nyc redneck

gov. palin needs to give a short answer to every question but spend most of her time explaining to the public, exactly who obama is. make it plain what he has done. who he associates w/. how dangerous he is for our country.
palin needs to stop ifil in her tracks if she tries an underhanded gotcha trick. palin should just look into the camera and laugh and call her on it.
the public would love it.
palin must show she can take these scum on. she will rally the people if she does.
voters are waiting for her to take charge.

That's true, put Ifel in her place & Americas Sweetheart becomes a dragon
slayer

810 cliffster  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:18:37am

re: #798 MandyManners

Michael D. McCurry

Mike McCurry - why you digging that guy up? I remember watching his shoulders sag more and more, and more, as the mid nineties turned into late nineties, and the number of Clinton lies he had to gloss over kept growing.

811 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:19:01am

re: #787 Bubblehead II

Morning all. Call me slow and unobservant, but I just noticed that the Hippie and terrorist were missing from the LGF banner. Anybody know when and why Charles removed them?

You're slow and unobservant.

812 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:19:08am

re: #744 ratso

they wanted 190 in the early eighties to play pebble beach

It's 325.00 for green fees now..
I played for free..
/ I knew a guy..

813 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:19:25am

re: #782 OldLineTexan

Sen. McCain, Gov. Palin:

You have my support, but you appear to need some advice. Here are words that are not mine, but have inspired at least two generations of patriotic and concerned American citizens:

Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more.


Be advised that your Democrat friends are well aware of the wisdom of this quote.

Have you sent that to the McCain campaign? Here is their contact page: http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/

Don't know if it will do any good but it's worth a try. I already sent them my thoughts.

814 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:19:27am

re: #789 realwest

Stations that usually get 25,000 gallons of gas in a normal delivery have only been able to get like 9,000 gallons now - so within a day they are out of gas again - and the lines just get longer and longer and longer.


8500 - 9000 gallons would be one truck load.

815 HDrepub  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:19:52am

re: #808 MandyManners

Newton N. Minow

He is Senior Counsel in the Chicago headquartered law firm of Sidley Austin LLP (formerly Sidley and Austin prior to a merger with Brown and Wood), a large international law firm with multiple areas of expertise, including telecommunications related law. Between 1965 and 1991, he was a managing partner in the law firm before becoming Senior Counsel in 1991.[12]

Sidley Austin, wasn't that where Michelle Obama was when she met the One.

816 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:20:19am

re: #772 ploome hineni

can anyone explain why the dollar is stronger against the euro today?

I think it's related to 2 things, first they are on the brink of realizing they are screwed and secondly, they just pumped a boat load of cash into some failing financial institutions causing the value of the euro to sink.

817 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:20:31am

With all the economic bad news, bear on thing in mind. The dollar is starting to surge against the Euro and the pound due to the financial problems overseas and their inability there to deal with it.

That means that there is very likely going to be foreign capital shifting from Europe to the US, especially if we get some sort of a plan through congress showing our willingness to deal with this.

When I was in Ireland this past spring, there was a clear arrogance about the strength of the Euro relative to the dollar over there. If you think the US real estate values were over blown, this is nothing compared to what I saw in Ireland. The crash still coming over there will be major.

818 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:20:33am

re: #789 realwest

Nope, no improvement at all all in the gas situation in Charlotte and environs.

ouch!

819 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:20:40am

re: #796 realwest

Yep, thanks - but redstaterneck got it first! I'm listening to it now! Thanks though!

Funny. I remember that exact printing on the 45' my sister had of this song.

820 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:20:57am

I saw that some of the Dems ffelt the heat and fessed up on their willingness to coddle Fannie and Freddie thanks to the work done on Hannity and Colmes...

Alan looked like his dog was shot last night when they played the reaction from a Dem Congresscritter sayign that they did not do a good job in propping up Fannie and Freddie in 2005... O'Reilly, blowhard that he is, even called for Barney Frank to resign...

821 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:21:19am

re: #800 formercorpsman

Beer, that whole situation bums me out.

So many concerts, games, etc.

I understand that Ed Snyder is losing money on keeping it open, but it would have been nice to maybe preserve the playing surface as a public skating rink, or maybe make a Flyers/Sixers musuem in the footprint. Where are the Phantoms going to play?

822 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:21:20am

re: #722 {Miss Trixie}
Hey gorgeous! *smooch* now that's a cup of coffee!
Um, where's that there glazed donut?!? :)

823 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:21:31am

re: #812 HoosierHoops

It's 325.00 for green fees now..
I played for free..
/ I knew a guy..

Clint Eastwood?

824 UFO TOFU  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:22:02am

re: #788 doriangrey
I used to be a "the glass is half full" kind of person!

Then someone poured my drink into a larger glass.

825 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:22:09am

Dorothy Ridings

Dorothy S. Ridings is president and chief executive officer of the Council on Foundations, a national association of some 2,000 foundations and corporations that will make charitable grants of about $18 billion this year.

From 1988 until joining the Council in March 1996, Ridings served as publisher and president of Knight-Ridder's Bradenton Herald in Bradenton, Florida. She also served as a Knight-Ridder general executive while based in Charlotte, North Carolina, and held editorial and reporting positions at the Kentucky Business Ledger, the Washington Post and the Charlotte Observer.

Ridings served the League of Women Voters of the United States as president from 1982 to 1986 and as a member of its board of directors from 1976 to 1986. She has been a trustee of the Ford Foundation and a director of the Benton Foundation and Independent Sector. She currently serves as board chair of the National Civic League and Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary, is a member of the boards of the Foundation Center and the Commission on Presidential Debates and is a member of the councils that accredit journalism schools and law schools. Internationally, she has made speaking tours for the U.S. Department of State and led two fact-finding delegations sponsored by NATO.

Ridings taught journalism at the University of Louisville and the University of North Carolina. She holds a bachelor's degree in journalism from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism and a master's degree from the University of North Carolina. She was awarded honorary degrees from Spalding University, the University of Louisville and the University of Charleston.

826 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:22:21am

re: #801 ploome hineni

so the European recession is more threatening to them, then the American Wall street debacle?

Yes, by a wide margin. Our situation is a piece of cake compared to what Europe is going to go through.

827 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:22:24am

re: #806 loppyd

Crumbling Financial Giants Gave Generously To Dodd

Snips

This crook is running the show today.

Makes me want to hurl.

And McCain, a honest man with nothing to do with this mess, is getting the blame.

828 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:22:39am

re: #743 3 wood

You could do that in the same institution then.

I used to buy $500,000 of CD's at a crack for my employer and would cut them up into 5 CD's to get the insurance. In the early 90's they changed the insurance to $100,000 institution wide.

Geeze I'll sell you one of my CD's for way less than that....

829 ratso  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:22:43am

re: #812 HoosierHoops
hope thats with a cart, I'd die walking it

830 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:22:44am

re: #810 cliffster

Mike McCurry - why you digging that guy up? I remember watching his shoulders sag more and more, and more, as the mid nineties turned into late nineties, and the number of Clinton lies he had to gloss over kept growing.

I'm googling directors of the CPD.

831 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:23:01am

re: #821 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I understand that Ed Snyder is losing money on keeping it open, but it would have been nice to maybe preserve the playing surface as a public skating rink, or maybe make a Flyers/Sixers musuem in the footprint. Where are the Phantoms going to play?

BTW, my friend, Go Brew Crew!

832 loppyd  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:23:20am

I just overheard the following exchange at Starbucks:

Moonbat #1:

"Obama so great blah blah blah change blah blah blah can't wait for that criminal cowboy to go back to Texas blah blah blah"

Moonbat #2:

"Are you going to see the new Oliver Stone movie? It's going to win an Oscar."

loppy wanted to say:

"Dude, cut your ponytail, lose the socks and Tevas look, STFU and place your organic chai order so I can get my muffin!"

833 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:23:41am

re: #802 tfc3rid

I was there with mrs lawhawk, legalbgl, and his wife. Had great seats (field level sec 255), but mrs legalbgl and I are yankee fans, so it didn't exactly hurt us the way it did to watch the mrs and legalbgl along with everyone else as the season come crashing down. I took about 350 photos, and for me the most memorable moments were seeing the former greats stepping out on the field and the seaver to piazza last pitch. It was amazing to see all those greats on the field - and I've heard that Darling is a really awesome guy in person.

834 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:23:53am
835 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:24:10am

re: #826 3 wood

Yes, by a wide margin. Our situation is a piece of cake compared to what Europe is going to go through.

When the Euro's run out of entitlement money, will all the Muslim's try to move over here to suck at the teet of America?

I nominate TFK and Mandy to become immigration czars!

836 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:24:16am

re: #788 doriangrey

I agree, he's not a troll, and definitely not a moby. IMAO, he is deeply screwed up.

That (arrogantly) said, thanks for your post. It's fleshed out my concept of him. As you mention, I do not have experience with guys his age in his generation.

/nor, now, do I want to ... rant off

837 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:24:17am

re: #788 doriangrey

The point your missing is the damage, intentional or not, that he is causing.

838 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:24:34am

re: #817 3 wood

The last time economies crashed in Europe, people starting thinking brown shirts were very fashionable...

839 realwest  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:24:40am

re: #654 redstateredneck
Hey {Red} I found a version done by the fella who wrote the song but was too scared to sing it: Tommy James :[Link: www.imeem.com...]

Much better I think than the original record put out by
Alive and Kicking!

840 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:24:58am

re: #811 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks, Now answer the question :-)

841 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:25:02am

re: #788 doriangrey

I have in the past engaged EIDE without attacking him.
Many times.

But if you think that I will just let pass his "I don't care" comment re: my nephew then you are sadly mistaken.

Saying it is MY fault for getting pissed off at that comment tells me more than I care to know about you.
I suppose if my husband beats me and I don't leave, well hey, thats my fault too according to your logic.

842 godfrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:25:04am

re: #801 ploome hineni

They have a similar debacle which is fueled by a pair of supranational EU economic directives which mandate the same mark-to-market approach as here. EU Referendum, as usual, has the goods, and links to the directives themselves.

I thought this was a good explanation of why mark-to-market is bad:

A European Union directive ... dictates that banks have to value their assets on a daily basis. To do this they must base their calculations on the market value of each asset if it were liquidated that day. The problem with this is that as share values tumble in response to the credit crisis, millions of pounds are wiped off bank balance sheets causing a spiral of decline in asset values.

And that affects their ability to lend, tightening up credit all over. When that happens, the shell game of modern lending turns over all its shells, people realize they're all empty, and panic sets in.

So the Eurozone crisis is similar -- and their economic fundamentals, worse. That's why it's not so much that the dollar is strengthening as that the euro is weakening.

I think.

843 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:25:30am

re: #832 loppyd

Why would anyone go to Starbucks? No Dunkin' Donuts around?

844 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:25:39am

re: #824 UFO TOFU

I used to be a "the glass is half full" kind of person!

Then someone poured my drink into a larger glass.

ROTFLMAO.... My coffee cup is a 64 oz behemoth....

845 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:25:55am

re: #833 lawhawk

I was there with mrs lawhawk, legalbgl, and his wife. Had great seats (field level sec 255), but mrs legalbgl and I are yankee fans, so it didn't exactly hurt us the way it did to watch the mrs and legalbgl along with everyone else as the season come crashing down. I took about 350 photos, and for me the most memorable moments were seeing the former greats stepping out on the field and the seaver to piazza last pitch. It was amazing to see all those greats on the field - and I've heard that Darling is a really awesome guy in person.

My ST's for this year were in the Upper Box 776... I am expecting my call regarding relocation for 2009 and my tix will be cheaper. Already paid for thansk to my deposit and postseason purchase... They may owe me money...

The Seaver-Piazza final pitch and them closing the CF gate was great... Boy Willie Mays has aged... It was great to see Darryl and Doc back and in their rightful uniforms...

846 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:26:00am
847 opnion  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:26:03am

re: #815 HDrepub

Sidley Austin, wasn't that where Michelle Obama was when she met the One.


Right, Michelle was assigned to mentor & supervise the young associate.
Isn't this the definition of sexual harassment in the work place, you know one party in a position of authority?

848 UFO TOFU  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:26:13am