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Open | Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:30:00 pm PDT

It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.

Tom Wolfe

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2 joecitizen  9/30/08 10:32:34 pm reply quote

g'night sweet Lizards..may all yer dreams be scaley.....

3 HelloDare  9/30/08 10:33:15 pm reply quote

Interesting post two threads back.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

4 Shug  9/30/08 10:35:21 pm reply quote

re: #3 HelloDare

Interesting post two threads back.

[Link:

5 rawmuse  9/30/08 10:35:24 pm reply quote

re: #1 Syrah

That was good stuff! And with that, I bid you all bon soir, mon amis.

6 lifeofthemind  9/30/08 10:35:35 pm reply quote

I see the last thread was talking about Pelosi family values.

7 Wishing  9/30/08 10:36:14 pm reply quote

re: #3 HelloDare

Man o man, I wish Pasketti would give us permision to get that out to the rags...we need stories like this out there to counter the slop that is served up as *unbiased* journalism

8 Shug  9/30/08 10:36:27 pm reply quote

Send San Fran Gran Nan to Alcatraz

9 HelloDare  9/30/08 10:36:48 pm reply quote

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10 nigella  9/30/08 10:38:04 pm reply quote

Know I've been up too long! Just want to thank Charles and all of you for giving me somewhere to go to validate my beliefs!It's tough in Northern California to find people of like mind.

11 Cartman  9/30/08 10:38:23 pm reply quote

Wow. It sure gets quiet around here this time in the morning!

12 suboptimal  9/30/08 10:38:26 pm reply quote
It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.

— Tom Wolfe

OK, so I won't run for office.

13 jcw46  9/30/08 10:38:28 pm reply quote

re: #8 Shug

Send San Fran Gran Nan to Alcatraz


If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

14 Killer Tomato  9/30/08 10:38:49 pm reply quote
all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.


That's becoming much easier said, than done.

15 pat  9/30/08 10:40:19 pm reply quote

What a wonderful quote.

16 Killer Tomato  9/30/08 10:40:48 pm reply quote

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

Someone needs to tell her: "Be gone! Before someone drops a house on you, too!"

17 celtic templar  9/30/08 10:41:30 pm reply quote

Been watching the Ifil Amazon Comments board ... Unbelievable

Libs posing as Republicans talking about Matt Drudge - of course avoiding anything of substance related to the book or Ifil's conflict of interest.

18 jcw46  9/30/08 10:41:40 pm reply quote

re: #11 Cartman

Wow. It sure gets quiet around here this time in the morning!

Too quiet.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Did you hear something?

Let's split up. You guys go that way and we'll go this way.

19 lifeofthemind  9/30/08 10:42:45 pm reply quote

re: #12 suboptimal

It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.
— Tom Wolfe

OK, so I won't run for office.

But I could use the job.

20 zombie  9/30/08 10:42:55 pm reply quote

New at zomblog:

The Greenlining Institute: Does the financial crisis have its origins in Berkeley?

Yesterday I followed a link to a new article by Matthew Vadum which named The Greenlining Institute (among similar nonprofits) as the actual cause of the current financial crisis threatening the US economy. I did a double-take: The Greenlining Institute? You mean the one in Berkeley? Answer: Yes. The very same.

[pic of Greenlining Institute headquarters.]
I (and countless other people) often zip past the nondescript office on Berkeley’s University Avenue containing the Greenlining Institute — one passes it on the way in and out of the city, as University leads from the freeway to downtown and the U.C. campus.

Unlike most people, though, several months ago I took note of the office as I passed it one day, and asked myself, “The Greenlining Institute” — what the hell is that? When I got home, out of curiosity I googled it and spent a couple minutes trying to decipher their Web site, to little avail. A very few other scattered articles seemed to indicate that the Greenlining Institute existed solely to bully banks and financial institutions into giving loans to otherwise unqualified minority borrowers.

...etc.

21 Killer Tomato  9/30/08 10:43:32 pm reply quote

re: #18 jcw46

Too quiet.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Did you hear something?

Let's split up. You guys go that way and we'll go this way.

Oh now that's just silly. There's nothing here to.... AIIIEEEE! argh, ugh, gurgle....

22 celtic templar  9/30/08 10:43:57 pm reply quote

re: #20 zombie

New at zomblog:

The Greenlining Institute: Does the financial crisis have its origins in Berkeley?


...etc.

No kidding ... Berkley insurgency.

23 mcmeador  9/30/08 10:45:23 pm reply quote

Anyone know where I can find a video of Gore's infamous sigh and rolling of the eyes during the first presidential debate of 2000? I've always heard about it but have never seen it myself. I'm not turning anything up on youtube.

24 cliffster  9/30/08 10:46:14 pm reply quote

To:
Janet H. Brown, Executive Director
Commission on Presidential Debates
RE: Choice of Gwen Ifill as Moderator of the 2008 Vice Presidential Debates

At what point does an establishment like the United States media find the collective sense of honesty to look upon itself and realize that it has strayed far, far away from what could even conceivably be considered a sense of objectivity? The fact that so many individuals working at newspapers, news stations, and other media outlets, have a very thinly veiled, if veiled at all, desire to see liberal minded people take control of our nation, is fairly well documented in the colloquial sense. The fact that those people are more quickly advanced through the ranks than their conservative counterparts, is made clear by the case-in-point of this election season - the undeniable desire of the media at large for Barack Obama to win the Presidential election.

That many in the media at large try to deny this is simply silly. But for someone like Gwen Ifill to be appointed as "moderator" of the upcoming Vice Presidential debates, is an insult to the collective intelligence of the American people. And once again John McCain has taken the high road when he should be lashing out against the clear inequity. Shame on you, Janet Brown, for allowing this to happen. Shame on you, for submitting to the putrification of intellectual discourse in America, caused by you and thousands of other media representatives that are supposed to be closely guarding the gates of objectivity among those who control information in our fine nation.

Clifford Painter

25 cliffster  9/30/08 10:46:26 pm reply quote

sorry for posting in two threads

26 zombie  9/30/08 10:47:12 pm reply quote

re: #23 mcmeador

Anyone know where I can find a video of Gore's infamous sigh and rolling of the eyes during the first presidential debate of 2000? I've always heard about it but have never seen it myself. I'm not turning anything up on youtube.

It's at the BBC. It was pretty fleeting, actually.

Go to the BBC site and search for the word "debates." They have all the highlights dating back to 1960.

27 Wishing  9/30/08 10:47:23 pm reply quote

re: #24 cliffster

Wow Cliff, i think it might ignite as she read it!

28 Celtic Templar  9/30/08 10:48:44 pm reply quote
29 EIDE_Interface  9/30/08 10:49:12 pm reply quote

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

30 suboptimal  9/30/08 10:50:39 pm reply quote

re: #19 lifeofthemind

But I could use the job.

I understand the interview process takes a while.

31 redc1c4  9/30/08 10:51:21 pm reply quote

re: #18 jcw46

Too quiet.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Did you hear something?

Let's split up. You guys go that way and we'll go this way.

you misspelled "i'll lay down a base of fire and you guys do the fire & maneuver thing."

/white smoke

32 HelloDare  9/30/08 10:52:50 pm reply quote

re: #24 cliffster

I wrote Brown. Asked her to remove Ifill and herself.

33 redc1c4  9/30/08 10:54:17 pm reply quote

re: #25 cliffster

sorry for posting in two threads

never apologize: it's a sign of weakness.

- John Wayne

34 redc1c4  9/30/08 10:54:42 pm reply quote

re: #27 Wishing

Wow Cliff, i think it might ignite as she read it!

she can read?

35 redc1c4  9/30/08 10:55:24 pm reply quote

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

not with you here....

obviously the sewage line is still clogged.

36 redc1c4  9/30/08 10:56:29 pm reply quote

re: #32 HelloDare

I wrote Brown. Asked her to remove Ifill and herself.

lemme know how that w*rks out..... %-)

37 Wishing  9/30/08 10:57:45 pm reply quote

re: #32 HelloDare

I wrote Brown. Asked her to remove Ifill and herself.

I was too kind, I only asked for Ifill to be replaced...durnit

38 Killian Bundy  9/30/08 10:58:14 pm reply quote

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

/you're still here?

39 Sharmuta  9/30/08 10:58:14 pm reply quote

red- can you give me a heavily spiked fruitcup?

40 lifeofthemind  9/30/08 10:59:14 pm reply quote

They should get an academic to moderate. Someone who has confined themselves to writing biographies of Presidents who have been dead for over 50 years. The role of moderator is rediculous anyway. A timekeeper to keep track of whether one side is hogging th emicrophone makes sense. Otherwise the two adults should just respond to each other. That would make it a debate.

41 x-wing  9/30/08 10:59:51 pm reply quote

Anybody see Greta tonite?

She just had a clip of a guy that painted a nude picture of Saracuda and hung it up at his wifes' bar. Said he used his daughter as the model.

Bleck, barf,and all that.

42 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:00:17 pm reply quote

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

"We"? What, you got a mouse in your pocket? Or is it the other voice in your head?

43 cliffster  9/30/08 11:01:20 pm reply quote

re: #41 x-wing

Anybody see Greta tonite?

She just had a clip of a guy that painted a nude picture of Saracuda and hung it up at his wifes' bar. Said he used his daughter as the model.

Bleck, barf,and all that.

His daughter? Am I weird to think that's just sick?

44 Wishing  9/30/08 11:01:49 pm reply quote

Well this looks as good a time as any to say gnite...
So..Gnite all you lizards!

45 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:02:21 pm reply quote

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

Sadly no, but if the water makes it back to the ocean it probably would cause a massive environmental disaster...

46 Cartman  9/30/08 11:03:07 pm reply quote

Boy, it almost seems as if the left in this country considers the '08 elections its final assault, does it not? They seem to have spent the last eight years scouring for the vulnerable and the weak-willed amongst us, and are ready to take it to the house, so to speak. I think they're supremely confident that the media will successfully keep their egregious transgressions of the past under wraps long enough to pull off a victory in November. Time for us all to buck up, and shove their shit right back in their sanctimonious pieholes.

47 slokat  9/30/08 11:03:33 pm reply quote

I have been busy & there are a lot of changes recently... my screen no longer shows quote & link icons... and the preview button doesn't work.

Is this a firefox problem?

Was trying to post a pic to one of the reasons I wasn't around. Just bought the "Wind Tamer" at bank auction.

Hope this link works... since I can't test it.

[Link: slokat.com...]

49 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:04:53 pm reply quote

re: #29 EIDE_Interface

Well maybe we can get off to a better start.

Take it easy, don't let anyone rattle you and most important, be civil and treat everyone respectfully and the answer will probably be yes. Lizards are fair minded people.

50 runrabbitrun  9/30/08 11:05:00 pm reply quote

Drudge Report this past 24 hours:

'Obama kids Sing for Dear Leader'
'Pelosi paid Husband with PAC Funds'
'VP Debate Moderator Releasing 'Age of Obama' Book on Inauguration Day'*

You know, every time one of us Repubs reads a story on a right-wing blog that makes us ready to tear our hair out with outrage and asks here, 'how on earth are we going to leap over the heads of the MSM and get the word out about this?' I quietly thank the Lord for Matt. He may not be perfect, or the answer to all of our prayers, but at least his broadcasts reach some of the voters besides the choir...

*and the hits keep coming

51 zombie  9/30/08 11:05:11 pm reply quote

re: #47 slokat

Which marina is that? Morro Bay?

52 lifeofthemind  9/30/08 11:05:17 pm reply quote

Goodnight ladies.

53 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:05:34 pm reply quote

re: #47 slokat

Link works. Didn't you know there's a credit freeze? Or was this one cash and row?

54 jcw46  9/30/08 11:06:03 pm reply quote

re: #25 cliffster

sorry for posting in two threads


Phew! I'm glad you said that. I read the post and was thinking "didn't I just read this?" deja vu all over again.

speaking of yogi berra; saw the Yanks last game at Yankee Stadium and saw YOGI BERRA! I did not know he was still alive and kicking.

55 gas238  9/30/08 11:07:30 pm reply quote

The Obama Youth Movement !

56 cliffster  9/30/08 11:07:40 pm reply quote

re: #54 jcw46

speaking of yogi berra; saw the Yanks last game at Yankee Stadium and saw YOGI BERRA! I did not know he was still alive and kicking.

No way. Seriously, no way. Really?

57 jcw46  9/30/08 11:08:05 pm reply quote

re: #33 redc1c4

never apologize: it's a sign of weakness.

- John Wayne

Never EXPLAIN!

58 redc1c4  9/30/08 11:08:37 pm reply quote

re: #39 Sharmuta

red- can you give me a heavily spiked fruitcup?

i wasn't aware that any other NDC was available............. %-)

KRED, the LNDT Lizard Radio, coming at you from over the border,
featuring all fruitcup all the time. ....
you give us 22 minutes, we'll give you a buzz.

and now, more border radio

59 x-wing  9/30/08 11:08:59 pm reply quote

re: #43 cliffster

His daughter? Am I weird to think that's just sick?

I didn''t catch his party affiliation,but he paints, and he is from Chicago.

Lot of freakin' weirdos up there.

/to answer your question though. No

60 EIDE_Interface  9/30/08 11:09:06 pm reply quote

Well for one thing I'm glad the bailout lost. IT was worth it just to see Megan McArdle's metldown.

61 RememberSekhmet?  9/30/08 11:09:22 pm reply quote

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

Like I said on Hot Air this morning, when San Fran Nan was whining about a "witch hunt" for Fannie Mae officials---it's not like they spell witch with a B, so Nancy should be OK

62 capitalist piglet  9/30/08 11:09:28 pm reply quote

re: #24 cliffster

I am applauding you. Great letter.

63 Cartman  9/30/08 11:09:40 pm reply quote

re: #54 jcw46

Yogi has really shrunk, in his old age. He must be about 4' 10", from that pic I saw of him.

64 runrabbitrun  9/30/08 11:10:27 pm reply quote

re: #8 Shug

Send San Fran Gran Nan to Alcatraz

re: #13 jcw46

If we throw water on her, won't she just melt?

nah, by now her skin is stretched tighter than a wetsuit - she could swim to Alcatraz without even getting damp.

65 redc1c4  9/30/08 11:10:56 pm reply quote

re: #47 slokat

I have been busy & there are a lot of changes recently... my screen no longer shows quote & link icons... and the preview button doesn't work.

Is this a firefox problem?

Was trying to post a pic to one of the reasons I wasn't around. Just bought the "Wind Tamer" at bank auction.

Hope this link works... since I can't test it.

[Link: slokat.com...]

nice boat.... you going to sail it north?

(you need a decK hand? %-)

66 Scion9  9/30/08 11:11:11 pm reply quote

OT:
Don't know if this redub was posted over in the Obamajungen thread, but it's pretty hilarious...

67 jcw46  9/30/08 11:11:22 pm reply quote

re: #56 cliffster

No way. Seriously, no way. Really?

Yes indeed. I am not a big baseball fan but I lived near NYC and always read the NYDN and NYT (spit) and hadn't heard anything at all about him so he must have been just cruising along and enjoying himself and staying out of baseball stuff cause I thought he was gone years ago.
Then come the final game at Yankee Stadium and I guess he couldn't resist. I believe he was there with whitey ford and some other Yankees from the past.

68 Cartman  9/30/08 11:11:50 pm reply quote

re: #64 runrabbitrun

nah, by now her skin is stretched tighter than a wetsuit - she could swim to Alcatraz without even getting damp.

And use those eyelids as propellers.

69 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:12:45 pm reply quote

re: #60 EIDE_Interface
I'm more interested in why it lost. Dem stupidity? Dem head fake? ( They come back on Thrusday and pass their origional double plus bad bill?) Just gonna go for broke in the Senate this PM where they think they can strong arm the Reps?

70 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:13:23 pm reply quote

re: #47 slokat

I have been busy & there are a lot of changes recently... my screen no longer shows quote & link icons... and the preview button doesn't work.

Is this a firefox problem?

Was trying to post a pic to one of the reasons I wasn't around. Just bought the "Wind Tamer" at bank auction.

Hope this link works... since I can't test it.

[Link: slokat.com...]

You're here in wonderful sunny InSane Diego?

71 slokat  9/30/08 11:13:24 pm reply quote

Sheesh, something is really messing with my browser tonight, the reply button takes me back to the main page...

Zombie - that pic is in Long Beach harbor, the boat is currently in a slip at Wilmington for some mechanical fixes. Looking to get a slip in Morro Bay, though.

Panhandler - cash & sail! ;)

72 EIDE_Interface  9/30/08 11:14:00 pm reply quote

re: #69 Panhandler

I'm more interested in why it lost. Dem stupidity? Dem head fake? ( They come back on Thrusday and pass their origional double plus bad bill?) Just gonna go for broke in the Senate this PM where they think they can strong arm the Reps?

It has to pass the House to get to the Senate. No way in hell is the House going to approve any bailout bill this close to an election with 100:1 emails/calls against it. 9% Nancy is toast.

73 Cartman  9/30/08 11:14:20 pm reply quote

Aw, come on! Don't get him started, fer cryin' out loud!

74 jcw46  9/30/08 11:15:02 pm reply quote

re: #47 slokat
And that would be a what -- 30 - 36 footer? Ketch rigged? don't see that too often.

75 redc1c4  9/30/08 11:15:19 pm reply quote

re: #71 slokat

Sheesh, something is really messing with my browser tonight, the reply button takes me back to the main page...

Zombie - that pic is in Long Beach harbor, the boat is currently in a slip at Wilmington for some mechanical fixes. Looking to get a slip in Morro Bay, though.

Panhandler - cash & sail! ;)

if you need a deckhand to get up the coast, i'm your huckleberry.

not a sailor, but not dumb, plus i can swim. %-)

76 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:15:59 pm reply quote

re: #69 Panhandler

I'm more interested in why it lost. Dem stupidity? Dem head fake? ( They come back on Thrusday and pass their origional double plus bad bill?) Just gonna go for broke in the Senate this PM where they think they can strong arm the Reps?

My guess is that the dems voted against it because they were forced to take most of their pork out of it. Now they will try to sneak it and ten times more back in it in some treasonous closed door secret underhanded deal...

77 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:16:09 pm reply quote

re: #72 EIDE_Interface

I think so too, but how the heck are the Dems going to figure out a way to pay off the unions and ACORN? Where are they going to try to hide it?

78 redc1c4  9/30/08 11:16:18 pm reply quote

re: #70 doriangrey

You're here in wonderful sunny InSane Diego?

i was there sunday for the Fear concert at HOB: where were you?

79 MandyManners  9/30/08 11:17:08 pm reply quote

re: #73 Cartman

Aw, come on! Don't get him started, fer cryin' out loud!

*sob*

80 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:17:18 pm reply quote

re: #73 Cartman

Aw, come on! Don't get him started, fer cryin' out loud!

He says he wants to try the other foot. We'll see.

81 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:17:42 pm reply quote

re: #72 EIDE_Interface

It has to pass the House to get to the Senate. No way in hell is the House going to approve any bailout bill this close to an election with 100:1 emails/calls against it. 9% Nancy is toast.

We can only pray that this kills Nancy's tenure has speaker....

82 zombie  9/30/08 11:17:44 pm reply quote

re: #71 slokat

Sheesh, something is really messing with my browser tonight, the reply button takes me back to the main page...

Zombie - that pic is in Long Beach harbor, the boat is currently in a slip at Wilmington for some mechanical fixes. Looking to get a slip in Morro Bay, though.

Panhandler - cash & sail! ;)

Ah, Wilmington harbor area -- I know exactly where that is.

Why, I can see your boat from here!

83 jcw46  9/30/08 11:17:58 pm reply quote

re: #80 Panhandler

He says he wants to try the other foot. We'll see.

You mean the RIGHT one?

84 EIDE_Interface  9/30/08 11:18:34 pm reply quote

re: #77 Panhandler

I think so too, but how the heck are the Dems going to figure out a way to pay off the unions and ACORN? Where are they going to try to hide it?

9% Nancy's next ploy will be to load it up with as much pork as possible to get 12 more Dems, but it won't work this close to an election. The people would see it as a cynical ploy - and those 12 that voted YES would lose their seats. No Dem or Rep is going to commit political suicide to help 9% Nancy.

85 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:18:54 pm reply quote

re: #79 MandyManners

*sob*

Oh, alright. I've had to read him for the last 2 days, I'm a closet masochist I guess.

86 Cartman  9/30/08 11:19:20 pm reply quote

re: #80 Panhandler

He says he wants to try the other foot. We'll see.

Well, lots of luck with that one. Take four aspirin, and call us in the morning.

87 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:20:05 pm reply quote

re: #78 redc1c4

i was there sunday for the Fear concert at HOB: where were you?

I live in a sleepy little town in San Diego Counties North County, called Ramona. About 40 miles north/east of San Diego proper...

88 jcw46  9/30/08 11:21:09 pm reply quote

re: #35 redc1c4

not with you here....

obviously the sewage line is still clogged.


Oh the LINE is fine, it's the filter that's on bypass.

89 MandyManners  9/30/08 11:21:14 pm reply quote

re: #85 Panhandler

Oh, alright. I've had to read him for the last 2 days, I'm a closet masochist I guess.

His shit on the thread about sharia courts did me in forever.

90 EIDE_Interface  9/30/08 11:21:37 pm reply quote

dorian - is the CA budget still not passed? I can't seem to find any info on that? I heard the legislature passed a budget that included collecting the taxes much faster, but that Schwarz would veto it?

91 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:21:42 pm reply quote

re: #79 MandyManners

*sob*

Come on Mandy... Be a good Christian and be willing to forgive past indiscretions. If he behaves accept it and move on.

92 really grumpy big dog Johnson  9/30/08 11:21:43 pm reply quote

re: #43 cliffster

His daughter? Am I weird to think that's just sick?

He's a loiberal. They don't get hung up on trivialities like fathers using their daughters as nude models for paintings.

I wonder if she got paid by the hour?

93 Sharmuta  9/30/08 11:21:45 pm reply quote

re: #86 Cartman

I'm sold on the Cone of Silence.

94 MandyManners  9/30/08 11:21:48 pm reply quote

And, with that, I'm going back to bed. High BP never helps with a touch of insomnia.

95 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:21:52 pm reply quote

re: #86 Cartman

Well, lots of luck with that one. Take four aspirin, and call us in the morning.

Washed down with Everclear? Or injected directly into the frontal lobe with a pneumatic air gun? I'm new at this so help me out here.

96 slokat  9/30/08 11:22:52 pm reply quote

Red: Hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll need a deck hand... takes approx. 2-1/2 days to sail uphill to Port San Luis, where I have a temporary mooring lined up.

Got some diesel things to fix & a niece getting married, plus the weather to juggle.

She's a 1979 Pearson 365KE = 36.5' Ketch

Doriangrey - no not San Diego, that's where the boat was registered, it's new home port will be Morro Bay. I've been down to Long Beach three times in the last ten days... close but not quite that far south.

97 doriangrey  9/30/08 11:23:01 pm reply quote

re: #90 EIDE_Interface

dorian - is the CA budget still not passed? I can't seem to find any info on that? I heard the legislature passed a budget that included collecting the taxes much faster, but that Schwarz would veto it?

I dont know, last I heard he was threatening to veto it, but havent heard anything lately.

98 rancher  9/30/08 11:23:52 pm reply quote

re: #18 jcw46

Let's split up.

Yea, that always works.

99 srb1976  9/30/08 11:23:55 pm reply quote

Evening all, ending up the day right where I started it, Awake while everyone else sleeps. Have I missed anything fun?

100 RTLM  9/30/08 11:25:03 pm reply quote

SEC suspends Market-to-Market.

The current environment has made questions surrounding the determination of fair value particularly challenging for preparers, auditors, and users of financial information. The SEC's Office of the Chief Accountant and the staff of the FASB have been engaged in extensive consultations with participants in the capital markets, including investors, preparers, and auditors, on the application of fair value measurements in the current market environment.
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... the SEC staff and the FASB staff will continue to consult with capital market participants on issues encountered in the application of fair value measurements.


Good start. Now get on with the Sarbanes-Oxley repeal, zero % capital gains and $500B home energy production.


Go Newt.

101 EIDE_Interface  9/30/08 11:25:37 pm reply quote

re: #97 doriangrey

I dont know, last I heard he was threatening to veto it, but havent heard anything lately.

In WA state we are facing a $3.2 billion deficit for 2008-2009, but only the GOP candidate is talking about it. The incumbent (D) governor won't even discuss it.

102 Cartman  9/30/08 11:25:52 pm reply quote

re: #95 Panhandler

If you hang in there with him long enough, you'll come to the realization that substituting the aspirin for cyanide should prove sufficient.

103 x-wing  9/30/08 11:26:17 pm reply quote

Oh snap, just saw this quote over at Hot Air.

This Pres. race is supposed to be all about reaching across the aisle to get things done.

And lookie at this little nugget that came out of Obamas' mouth.

I don’t think me calling House Republican members would have been that helpful, I tend not to be that persuasive on that side of the aisle


/daaaaaaaaaamn,

104 rancher  9/30/08 11:26:38 pm reply quote

re: #100 RTLM

105 Panhandler  9/30/08 11:27:27 pm reply quote

re: #99 srb1976

Did you ever!
We went on the Choo Choo!
(Sorry guys, just had to do it)

106 MrPaulRevere  9/30/08 11:30:51 pm reply quote

re: #89 MandyManners

Right on Mandy, I just read his comment. He's a POS. PLEASE EVERYONE REFRAIN FROM INTERACTING WITH IT.

107 srb1976  9/30/08 11:31:00 pm reply quote

re: #105 Panhandler
Wow...that certainly caught me off guard

108 Cartman  9/30/08 11:31:07 pm reply quote

re: #105 Panhandler

Every time I watch that vid I feel like I've been suspended from reality for 3 or 4 minutes. Or like I've landed on another planet.