No shit.

Several Muslim owned businesses around here have Obama signs in their windows.

Is this something more than a voter registration drive? I thought that was okay.

. Rescind their tax exempt status.

Now.

and Patrick Poole notes that this may be illegal.

May?

/why don't we just hand this country over without a fight.

re: #2 doppelganglander

Is this something more than a voter registration drive? I thought that was okay.

Did you read the link? They are very open about the "voter registration drives" being thinly-disguised Obama rallies.

Then if they want to get into politics, their tax exempt status should be revoked. Ditto for those pastors who openly campaign for a candidate from the pulpit.

Now this is scary.
OT Rush is going to talk about the gwen awful story next.

Since when does Obama respect the law? or anything resembling ordinary decency?

Goodbye tax exempt status, if they get any.

I'm sick of Churches openly supporting candidates, and using tax payer funds to do so

re: #8 rawmuse

Since when does Obama respect the law? or anything resembling ordinary decency?

Um, um, um, (other than doing my best BHO impression) you got me.

I see that they are having a Muslim Family Day today and tomorrow at Six Flag's Great Adventure...

Wasn't this event highly criticized last year in Texas?

re: #2 doppelganglander

Is this something more than a voter registration drive? I thought that was okay.

Why do you think they call themselves Muslims for Obama?

/I that Arabic for non-partisan?

This would be hand-in-glove along with the illegal campaign contributions he's been getting from overseas (Ham-ass, etc.).

So, what's new?

JAFLW

0bama Ackbar!

Before they are even eligible for tax exempt status they should be asked whether they support Hamas and Hezbollah. After they fail that question and have their tax exempt status stripped they can have at it and campaign for Obama all day long.

Patrick Poole notes that this may be illegal.

The only law a totalitarian obeys is his own.

The only rule a totalitarian recognizes is his own.

The only rights a totalitarian respects is his own.

Totalitarians are funny that way.

The "Get out the Vote" drive was slightly more popular than their "Get the Belt On" drive.

COAT may claim to be 'anti-terror' but that's clearly a front for their anti-Muslim bigotry.
/

Under Obama the only thing Illegal will be the 1st Ammend. and criticizing him.

This whole register them today and give them an absentee ballot gives me the willies.

Used to be you applied and then were "approved" based upon a check of the facts.

What have we wrought in attempting to make equality about results rather then about access?

re: #2 doppelganglander

Is this something more than a voter registration drive? I thought that was okay.

No politics allowed for tax-exempt religious organizations, voter reigstration drives are, by their very nature, political. Politics is pay to play. Except, apparently, if you're a mosque, as separation of mosque and state is a figment of Westerners imaginations.

re: #15 Sharmuta

0bama Ackbar!

Obama Snackbar?

JAFLW

Back in 1996 I was in the Atlanta area working on a project surrounding the Olympics, and attended a black church.

On two occasions a representative of the NAACP was there speaking about their get out the vote project - during the church service.

Get out the vote and break out the prayer rugs and foot bath!

I think a few Secretaries of State should be called. They should look into this- it's possible these "registrations" could be found fraudulent.

re: #5 Occasional Reader

Did you read the link? They are very open about the "voter registration drives" being thinly-disguised Obama rallies.

You are correct.

Get a load of this new Obama campaign logo!

Turkish Americans for Obama

Love that star & crescent, so full of hope & change!

Muslims for Obama - now there's a shocker.

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

re: #28 Kenneth

Get a load of this new Obama campaign logo!

Turkish Americans for Obama

Love that star & crescent, so full of hope & change!

Our new overlords!

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

It's disgusting what they are doing.

Did you all know that nbc sent a reporter to hanoi to find McCain's torturers and they report that McCain's confinement was like 'hogans heroes'.
Rush talking about it now.
Good Lord!

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

Fucking despicable.

re: #21 yesandno

Absentee ballot laws are being badly abused. In CA. it is amazingly easy to get one. I am what is called a "permanent absentee ballot voter". I always get my ballot in the mail. However, in some counties, people are registering non-existent people, their pets, and still getting ab ballots for their long deceased relations, filling them out and sending them in.

It is a nightmare.

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

Yeah, but the reporters were so stupid they thought McCain really did stay at the Hilton.

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

Did the pathetic morons bother to interview the men who "served" in the Hanoi Hilton with him?

Double-Shiite-heads, IMHO.

JAFLW

Illegal activity in a Mosque? Who ever heard of such a thing?!

Oh I can't wait to hear an in-depth report on this on the evening news tonight.
/

This is rich...

Palin's War on the Press

Apparently, it's Sarah who's treating the press unfairly!

Rush just said 'no mention of torture' in the nbc report.
Did they go and ask about jfcarry's 'claims'?

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

You can't make this stuff up. Wow, travel to Vietnam, Alaska - no problem. Check out Illinois or Delaware or Harvard? No dice.

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

Fucking despicable bastards!

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

Frankly- I hope they keep it up because it's more of the same shit that's turning people off, and we've got numbers to prove it:

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

Keep up the great work, dipshits.

re: #34 Sharmuta

Fucking despicable.

POMTA.

'Volunteers need not be Muslim, though appropriate attire is advised (no sleeveless tops; long pants and ankle-length skirts recommended).'

. Hmmm.
What is the penalty for non-compliance?

re: #33 newsjunkie_ky

Who was it that said Mac, was treated well over there, like it was summer camp.

That's right ,it was Randi Rhodes.

These fuckers make me sick. Where's Chuck Norris when you need him?

Does anyone know where you can find out how many listeners for Rush, Hannity, Levin, et al. They will go a long way in GOTV. Just wondering how large their audience. I see Bill is out campaigning for Obama today. A deal must have been struck for Hillary debt or he would not be speaking like he is today given what he has said in the past week.

Can you give a rough estimate about how this might affect the B0 vote?

And don't think this is something B0-specific: its a leftist/socialist ploy, which has been used here in the UK already.
Reports and inquiries showed huge frauds - but they were only addressed on the level of local elections. How it afected the NuLab vote, nobody has been reporting on ...

Are you sure that B0 doens't have some NuLab fucntionaries amongst his advisors? Methinks he's using quite a large amount of ideas familiar to me from the UK ...

re: #46 Tumulus11

. Hmmm.
What is the penalty for non-compliance?

Re-education camp

re: #45 MandyManners

POMTA.

?

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

Don't worry, this will be immediately followed by their hard-hitting story on Obama's links to William Ayers and other Alinskyites.

/

re: #46 Tumulus11

. Hmmm.
What is the penalty for non-compliance?

Holding your head in your hands?

re: #7 newsjunkie_ky

Now this is scary.
OT Rush is going to talk about the gwen awful story next.

It's the front and center story at FoxNews .com right now, too.

In The Tank? VP Debate Moderator Pens Pro-Obama Book
PBS anchor Gwen Ifill, who is moderating Thursday's VP debate, is releasing a new book on Barack Obama, raising questions about her objectivity.

/sorry to go OT

Thanks, Charles!

There is only one sizable endorsement Obama has yet to land. But I expect Satan to come out and declare any day....

re: #51 Sharmuta

?

Pissed-Off Minds Think Alike.

re: #12 tfc3rid

I see that they are having a Muslim Family Day today and tomorrow at Six Flag's Great Adventure...

Wasn't this event highly criticized last year in Texas?

That would be the day to go in and buy a pulled-pork sandwich. With lots of BBQ sauce on it.

I am leaning toward the illegal side on this. We have seen the IRS threaten certain churches in the US about "preaching from the pulpit" and possibly losing their tax exempt status.

re: #56 maddogg

There is only one sizable endorsement Obama has yet to land. But I expect Satan to come out and declare any day....

Well, sometimes you need powerful friends.

The Muslims aren't stupid. They know they can break the law by using their mosques for political purposes and nobody's going to do a damn thing about it because it's a mosque, not a church (The "reverend" Wright's "church" notwithstanding, of course). They can also totally relate to a man named "Barack Hussein Obama." They also know, as do we, that BHO will put together an agenda that they will appreciate, especially as it relates to foreign policy initiatives and terrorist interdiction (or the lack thereof).

NO LAUGHING-NO CRYING-NO SWEARING Infidels!
/

re: #59 johnnyreb

losing their tax exempt status

Maybe we could fund the bailout plan by taxing mosques!

/spitballin' here

re: #58 victor_yugo

That would be the day to go in and buy a pulled-pork sandwich. With lots of BBQ sauce on it.

Or a Tofurkey sausage. Love those things.

re: #55 MandyManners

Thanks, Charles!

I echo that sentiment.

Here's more good news:

George Soros has a bail out plan:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/soros-floats-a lternative-bailout-plan-with-dems-2008-09-30.html

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

It would be possible to ask to petition the FCC to suspend broadcast licenses for for acting in a manner contrary to the public interest, but that would set an unfortunate precedent that the opposition would use against us were they to obtain power.

Obama and his supporters will continue to ignore election laws with impunity. Whether it's the millions in questionable overseas contributions (foreign contributions to presidential campaigns are illegal) or the overt campaigning by leftist and islamic religious organizations.

The investigations won't occur for months, the penalties will be light, but the election will have been decided and over. Elections cannot be reversed because of campaign finance shenanigans. The candidate gives the money back, the supporter pays a fine and goes to jail - the candidate stills hold office.

re: #64 Edgar

Or a Tofurkey sausage. Love those things.

Is soy haraam?

re: #48 JacksonTn

Does anyone know where you can find out how many listeners for Rush, Hannity, Levin, et al. They will go a long way in GOTV. Just wondering how large their audience. I see Bill is out campaigning for Obama today. A deal must have been struck for Hillary debt or he would not be speaking like he is today given what he has said in the past week.

Rush was reporting 22 million listeners in his markets earlier this week.

re: #35 rawmuse

Absentee ballot laws are being badly abused. In CA. it is amazingly easy to get one. I am what is called a "permanent absentee ballot voter". I always get my ballot in the mail. However, in some counties, people are registering non-existent people, their pets, and still getting ab ballots for their long deceased relations, filling them out and sending them in.

It is a nightmare.

I really think we need a law to prohibit voter registration from being conducted by anyone but the local elections officials. We're probably stuck with Motor Voter, but at least libraries and DMV are state, county, or local operations. ACORN and special interest groups have completely corrupted the process. Who knows what kind of shenanigans are going on in Ohio, Michigan and other states? Voting for president begins in pivotal Ohio

From the link:

In fact, it was these kinds of activities that eventually sunk the Christian Coalition's tax exempt status with the IRS.

Yep. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander, and I hope the authorities will look into this. I don't recommend that anyone hold their breath, though.

re: #30 yesandno

Rush reporting that NBC sent reporters to Viet Nam to see the room where McCain stayed....to see if McCain's story was correct.........

Sh&theads.

Maybe NBC should bash one of their reporters in the mouth with a rifle butt to see if McCain was correct when he says its painful.

The media will just use this to prove that Americans are "less informed and more ignorant than ever".

re: #44 Sharmuta

Frankly- I hope they keep it up because it's more of the same shit that's turning people off, and we've got numbers to prove it:

Big Three Nets' Evening News Programs Still in Collective Decline

Keep up the great work, dipshits.

Re: Thursday night debates:

Sarah Palin staffers, if you are reading this:

Make sure that Sarah SOMEHOW works in a reference to Biden's reported idea in October 2001 to send Iran $200 million "no strings attached" as a response (of some sort) to 9/11.

The voters NEED TO KNOW THIS.

re: #24 Intrepid

Back in 1996 I was in the Atlanta area working on a project surrounding the Olympics, and attended a black church.

On two occasions a representative of the NAACP was there speaking about their get out the vote project - during the church service.

And that is almost the only place it is allowed.

Jesse, Al, etc. would not have a place to work without glaring political use of these churches.

In Toronto I see Muslim men walking around all day in their 'native' dress. If they had regular jobs, they would be working. It sounds 'racist', but I suspect my tax money & Saudi oil money supports a lot of these faux Canadians. They are in local politics up to their beards, getting the vote out for the candidate who panders to them the most.

Memo to McCain/Palin 2008 Advisors:
Have Sarah bring some of this up tomorrow and make Biden answer for some of it on behalf of his boss Barack. Make THEM play defense instead of just counterpunching! Take it to those guys and show them you're "Maggie Thatcher II" in training!

re: #73 bulwrk

Maybe NBC should bash one of their reporters in the mouth with a rifle butt to see if McCain was correct when he says its painful.

Nah, put them in a crucifix hold.

re: #71 doppelganglander

Who knows what kind of shenanigans are going on in Ohio, Michigan and other states?

From someone claiming to be a federal LEO specializing in fake ID's:

Ohio driver's licenses are the most commonly faked ID's in the nation. They've even been intercepted in US Customs, on someone trying to enter the country illegally.

Jennifer Brunner, kiss my ass.

re: #3 Tumulus11

. Rescind their tax exempt status.

Now.

There would be some churches that get their tax exemption pulled as well.

re: #81 Perplexed

So?

re: #6 Honorary Yooper

Then if they want to get into politics, their tax exempt status should be revoked. Ditto for those pastors who openly campaign for a candidate from the pulpit.

There are pastors who have come out front and said, "I'm willing to forgo the tax-exempt status to promote a candidate." Those comments come from the right. On the left you get "religous" leaders overtly deceiving and breaking the law. The muslims are allowed to do this based on the Quran because they are lieing to unbelievers. The Christian left directly violates their beliefs.

re: #81 Perplexed

There would be some churches that get their tax exemption pulled as well.

That happens every election cycle.

Mosques, on the other hand...

re: #75 Occasional Reader

Re: Thursday night debates:

Sarah Palin staffers, if you are reading this:

Make sure that Sarah SOMEHOW works in a reference to Biden's reported idea in October 2001 to send Iran $200 million "no strings attached" as a response (of some sort) to 9/11.

The voters NEED TO KNOW THIS.

re: #81 Perplexed

There would be some churches that get their tax exemption pulled as well.

A certain one in Chicago that a certain Presidential candidate attended for 20 years comes to mind.

The Secret Shipment To South Sudan

September 30, 2008: How did a weapons shipment for the rebel government of southern Sudan, end up in Kenya, with the Kenyan government claiming the shipload of weapons as its own? On September 25th, a Ukrainian ship, carrying a cargo of over 2,000 tons of weapons (including 33 T-72 tanks) to Kenya, was seized by pirates off the north coast of Somalia. The pirates promptly demanded $35 million for the ship, then lowered that to $20 million. As foreign warships closed in, the pirates threatened to sink the Ukrainian ship if anyone tried to take their prize away.

Initially, everyone believed the weapons were headed for Kenya, because the Kenyan government said the weapons were theirs and would be unloaded at the Kenyan port of Mombassa. Then U.S. intelligence officials let slip the fact that the weapons were headed to Sudan. Apparently south Sudan, which is an autonomous part of the country, operating under a peace treaty with the main government of Sudan. Although Sudan and its rebellious south have a peace deal, they don't have peace. There has been skirmishing on the border this year, and this semi-secret weapons shipment makes sense. The only way to get weapons into south Sudan is via Kenya. Sudan has several ports, but none controlled by the southern rebels.

The U.S. is concerned that one of the Islamic radical factions in Somalia might get hold of the weapons in the Ukrainian ship (which apparently consists of over 700 tons of rifles, RPGs and ammunition, in addition to the 33 T-72 tanks).

That makes no sense, as the rebels in southern Sudan do not have the funds to buy 33 T-72 tanks.

More likely, the Sudanese gov't was buying the tanks and the Kenyan gov't of pro- Islamist Raila Odinga, Obama's cousin, was willing to act as middleman.

re: #66 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Here's more good news:

George Soros has a bail out plan:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/soro s-floats-alternative-bailout-plan-with-d ems-2008-09-30.html

There's a space in the word "dems" and one in "soros" that need taking out for the link to work. It might have been generated automatically because of all of the "-" in between the words, but I don't know.

I'll try it this way: George Soros has a bail out plan, God help us.

re: #81 Perplexed

There would be some churches that get their tax exemption pulled as well.

Fair is fair. Most of the criticism of "Islam" is a reaction to its politicized adherents, after all.

Keep religion out of politics.

re: #75 Occasional Reader

Re: Thursday night debates:

Sarah Palin staffers, if you are reading this:

Make sure that Sarah SOMEHOW works in a reference to Biden's reported idea in October 2001 to send Iran $200 million "no strings attached" as a response (of some sort) to 9/11.

The voters NEED TO KNOW THIS.

"As long as the Muslim get-out-the-vote drive is Sha'ria-compliant, we have no problem with this. And if ACORN can "register" one million or more illegal aliens & convicted felons by election day, that would be a great accomplishment for our democracy. Then, after Obama wins in November, he must crack down on talk radio & Fox News in order to protect free speech in America..."
-- AP/UPI/Reuters/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS...

I demand the separation of mosque and state.

re: #73 bulwrk

Maybe NBC should bash one of their reporters in the mouth with a rifle butt to see if McCain was correct when he says its painful.

You know the media, Macs' acount and all the other POWs acount may not be true. They better go ask for the enemies account of what happened.

/It's that whole objective thing ya know

/I'm seething right now

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Illegal activity in a Mosque? Who ever heard of such a thing?!

You should remember that under sharia religion trumps civil matters, and so anything that happens at a mosque that benefits the caliphate is in reality "legal", or so say the fatwas.

// only partial sarc here, really.

re: #80 victor_yugo

That's really disturbing. I looked up Jennifer Brunner and I see she is Ohio's Secretary of State. Gawd, bring back Ken Blackwell.

re: #75 Occasional Reader

You forget Biden's brilliant reasoning was to give the money to Persian Shia Iran show the Sunni Arab world the US wasn't against them when the US invaded Taliban run Afghanistan.

re: #24 Intrepid

Back in 1996 I was in the Atlanta area working on a project surrounding the Olympics, and attended a black church.

On two occasions a representative of the NAACP was there speaking about their get out the vote project - during the church service.

That is legal. Telling the congregation who they should vote for gets the church into trouble with the IRS.

re: #97 Kenneth

You forget Biden's brilliant reasoning was to give the money to Persian Shia Iran show the Sunni Arab world the US wasn't against them when the US invaded Taliban run Afghanistan.

Was it "over" when the Persians bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!

re: #80 victor_yugo

From someone claiming to be a federal LEO specializing in fake ID's:

Ohio driver's licenses are the most commonly faked ID's in the nation. They've even been intercepted in US Customs, on someone trying to enter the country illegally.

Jennifer Brunner, kiss my ass.

I used to have one :) It was pretty cheezy and didn't get me into a strip club in Toronto, but it was fairly effective with the bouncers at local night clubs.

re: #96 doppelganglander

That's really disturbing. I looked up Jennifer Brunner and I see she is Ohio's Secretary of State. Gawd, bring back Ken Blackwell.

I posted a few weeks ago a post here that on kos where they were saying that they "OWN" the Secretary of State in Ohio.

... and another thing:
you will of course be aware that in muslim families, its the 'head' of said family who says what goes.
Thus, one family with one male and three females of voting age = 4 votes for B0, even if the females haven't got a clue or would like to vote differently.

Happened here in the UK ... thats 'absent ballot' (or 'postal voting', here) for you ...
(And the muslim women don't need to go out and become defiled by contact with infidels of both sexes ...)

By any stretch of what the founding fathers meant by "Religion", islam is not one,

so this activity is OK.

/sarc

Actually, 1/2 sarc; first thought, I stand by.

re: #92 firebreather

"As long as the Muslim get-out-the-vote drive is Sha'ria-compliant, we have no problem with this. And if ACORN can "register" one million or more illegal aliens & convicted felons by election day, that would be a great accomplishment for our democracy. Then, after Obama wins in November, he must crack down on talk radio & Fox News in order to protect free speech in America..."
-- AP/UPI/Reuters/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS...

Links?

re: #3 Tumulus11

. Rescind their tax exempt status.

Now.

Perplexed 10/01/08 9:40:40
There would be some churches that get their tax exemption pulled as well.

. Yes, I agree. As they should.

re: #99 Occasional Reader

"I had an uncle who marched with Patton and helped liberate Auschwitz." - BHO

re: #88 gop_patriot

There's a space in the word "dems" and one in "soros" that need taking out for the link to work. It might have been generated automatically because of all of the "-" in between the words, but I don't know.

I'll try it this way: George Soros has a bail out plan, God help us.

Thanks!

re: #96 doppelganglander

That's really disturbing. I looked up Jennifer Brunner and I see she is Ohio's Secretary of State. Gawd, bring back Ken Blackwell.

He was on Fox this morning. He doesn't seem to be a happy man.

re: #67 The Other Les

Anyone who had the misfortune of watching the NBC nightly news last night had the rare pleasure of taking in the interview with the kindly north vietnamese woman who supposedly saved McCain from his initial captors' beatings (seemed like a nice enough lady, but I'd like to see confirmation), followed by an interview with the former commandant of the Hanoi Hilton who fondly recalled his "philosophy" discussions with McCain. The irony of that phrase didn't come through. I mean, they were interviewing a war criminal. Isn't there some kind of human responsibility to take your reporter's pen and thrust it through this villain's throat? I'm not cut out to be an NBC reporter, I guess.

re: #102 yma o hyd

Postal voting can be very unsecret, you are right

The ballot should be secret

what a flaw in postal voting.

re: #104 MandyManners

Links?

Mandy, I do believe it was over-the-top sarcasm, but the first time, or 5, I read it I thought it really was a direct compiled quote from the MSM.

re: #106 Kenneth

"I had an uncle who marched with Patton and helped liberate Auschwitz." - BHO

I'll never forget those live, streaming webcasts of the images from Auschwitz. President JFK was reportedly devastated as he watched them.

re: #99 Occasional Reader

Was it "over" when the Persians bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!

The then VP Biden sent out emails explaining the 'truth' about that little caper.

re: #99 Occasional Reader

Was it "over" when the Persians bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!

re: #89 Edgar

Fair is fair. Most of the criticism of "Islam" is a reaction to its politicized adherents, after all.

Keep religion out of politics.

That's something akin to keeping hydrogen out of water...

re: #104 MandyManners

Links?

Mandy, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and posit that firebreather's post was intended as sarcasm.

re: #115 eschew_obfuscation

That's something akin to keeping hydrogen out of water...

They seem to have done it in Europe. But they sure went about it the wrong way.

re: #109 Pullus Iulius

You have moral values. That disqualifies you from being an objective reporter.
Reporters should be perfect nihilists, according to prevailing wisdom.

re: #89 Edgar

Fair is fair. Most of the criticism of "Islam" is a reaction to its politicized adherents, after all.

Keep religion out of politics.

Kinda hard to do when part and parcel of Islam is to be political.

re: #117 Edgar

They seem to have done it in Europe. But they sure went about it the wrong way.

In Europe, they took religion out of religion.....that's not the same thing.

re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans

Mandy, I do believe it was over-the-top sarcasm, but the first time, or 5, I read it I thought it really was a direct compiled quote from the MSM.

Same here. (After all the work I did on the DT this morning, my eyes are squinting and twitching.)

re: #112 Occasional Reader

Biden will never forget how Lincoln handled the Teapot Dome scandal, and the rousing fireside chats he delivered at that time.

re: #116 Occasional Reader

Mandy, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and posit that firebreather's post was intended as sarcasm.

Yep. See my No. 121.

re: #109 Pullus Iulius

A war criminal to civilized people like us is a hero to tyrannophiles in the MSM.

re: #89 Edgar

Fair is fair. Most of the criticism of "Islam" is a reaction to its politicized adherents, after all.

Keep religion out of politics.

I disagree, the criticism of Islam is a reaction to the Koran and it's teachings as rendered by a piece of shit called mohammed.

re: #107 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

You can bet Soros is figuring out a way to make the most money he can from this financial turmoil. He's a worm.

If you haven't read it already, please do so now. Print it out and give to your friends, co-workers & neighbors.

John McCain, Prisoner of War: A First-Person Account
By John S. McCain III, Lieut. Commander, U.S. Navy

McCain does mention being saved from the first beating by some local Vietnamese. While in captivity some guards & officers were more brutal than others. He spent 5 1/2 years as a POW. Which, by the way, is longer than Obama has spent being a US Senator. And unlike Obama, McCain was actually present the whole time.

re: #122 firebreather

Biden will never forget how Lincoln handled the Teapot Dome scandal, and the rousing fireside chats he delivered at that time.

He handled it by staying in his grave (cowardly republican) and forcing Grant to take the blame.

re: #112 Occasional Reader

I'll never forget those live, streaming webcasts of the images from Auschwitz. President JFK was reportedly devastated as he watched them.

Wonkette & Sully live-blogged the whole thing!

re: #1 The Other Les

Businesses have a perfect right to display a political sign.

A religious establishment?

Not so much.

re: #122 firebreather

Biden will never forget how Lincoln handled the Teapot Dome scandal, and the rousing fireside chats he delivered at that time.

Biden will never forget the swelling of pride in his chest as President Coolidge announced the first moon landing via Podcast.

Checked out the polls today (I know, stupid thing to do in the morning when adult beverage consumption is not proper) and it isn't looking good.

We're in the 3rd quarter and down by a couple of touchdowns, our defensive backfield is looking timid, and the offense seemingly cannot move the ball 10 yards to save their lives.

We need our QB to step up and show some strong, rallying leadership now, and in a big way.

Or we need a damned good field goal kicker. (like Rob Bironas - go TITANS!)

Thirty days is a lifetime in politics - I'm hoping like mad the tide turns and the momentum flows back into the McCain/Palin camp.

re: #125 ratso

I disagree, the criticism of Islam is a reaction to the Koran and it's teachings as rendered by a piece of shit called mohammed.

The Koran itself doesn't affect your daily life. People who read it and decide to kill people according to its supposed instructions are our problem.

re: #118 rawmuse

Nihilists are quickly taken over by Stan and report from his viewpoint IMHO.

re: #90 MandyManners

Re: Thursday night debates:

Sarah Palin staffers, if you are reading this:

Make sure that Sarah SOMEHOW works in a reference to Biden's reported idea in October 2001 to send Iran $200 million "no strings attached" as a response (of some sort) to 9/11.

The voters NEED TO KNOW THIS.

Mandy,

I'm pretty sure cursing is not generally looked highly upon in these debates. Since that appears to be your main debate tactic (ie. "Fucking despicable bastards!" #43 as well as dozens of other), of course along with accusing people of being pedophiles, i think it would be best for you to keep your 'suggestions' to yourself. You'd only hurt Gov. Palin's chances tomorrow.

re: #122 firebreather

Biden will never forget how Lincoln handled the Teapot Dome scandal, and the rousing fireside chats he delivered at that time.

Hahahaha. Indirect result of Teapot Dome scandal: The Harding Memorial has a flat roof. No dome. The designers didn't want people calling it the Teapot Dome Memorial.

Enemies? There are no such things as "enemies", you prole. Only people of differing beliefs of equal merit, in unfortunate conflict with one another. Of course, in this instance, one side's belief system incorporates Christo-fascist imperialist hegemony, and could be judged to be subjectively 'evil' Therefore, we must determine the necessarily unbiased view of the native oppressed Vietnamese". - Intellectual MSM liberal

re: #94 x-wing

You know the media, Macs' acount and all the other POWs acount may not be true. They better go ask for the enemies account of what happened.

/It's that whole objective thing ya know

/I'm seething right now

re: #115 eschew_obfuscation

That's something akin to keeping hydrogen out of water...

Just try getting it out of dihydrogen monoxide...

re: #129 Kenneth

Wonkette & Sully live-blogged the whole thing!

Of course, JFK watched them on his PowerMac G5, since the Mac Pro hadn't been invented yet.

re: #135 JohnDakota

You don't know Mandy very well, do you?

re: #131 OldLineTexan

Biden will never forget the swelling of pride in his chest as President Coolidge announced the first moon landing via Podcast.

Wasn't Obama's grandfather on that mission?

re: #135 JohnDakota

Mandy,

I'm pretty sure cursing is not generally looked highly upon in these debates. Since that appears to be your main debate tactic (ie. "Fucking despicable bastards!" #43 as well as dozens of other), of course along with accusing people of being pedophiles, i think it would be best for you to keep your 'suggestions' to yourself. You'd only hurt Gov. Palin's chances tomorrow.

I'll handle this one, Mandy.

John:

Go piss up a rope.

re: #133 Edgar
Have you read it?

re: #12 tfc3rid

I see that they are having a Muslim Family Day today and tomorrow at Six Flag's Great Adventure...

Wasn't this event highly criticized last year in Texas?

If Six Flags Texas wants to rent out its private facility to Muslims for a day, I don't have a problem with that. They can do whatever they like, and if it makes business sense for them to do it, why not?

But I don't know why they "need" a special day.

re: #135 JohnDakota

Take him, Mandy. He's all yours.

re: #135 JohnDakota

Mandy,

I'm pretty sure cursing is not generally looked highly upon in these debates. Since that appears to be your main debate tactic (ie. "Fucking despicable bastards!" #43 as well as dozens of other), of course along with accusing people of being pedophiles, i think it would be best for you to keep your 'suggestions' to yourself. You'd only hurt Gov. Palin's chances tomorrow.

Oh, for the last fucking time: I NEVER ACCUSED ANYONE OF BEING A PEDOPHILE.

BTW, I was merely quoting OR.

re: #140 bosforus

Tee effing Hee.

re: #134 Ojoe

Nihilists are quickly taken over by Stan and report from his viewpoint IMHO.

Since nature abhors a vacuum, I agree.

re: #143 ratso

Have you read it?

Nah, it's pretty damn boring.

re: #135 JohnDakota

Knock it off.

re: #82 leboaz

So?

Some churches are responsible when it comes to politics. They would like to show both sides to the voters, explain policies, etc. but are kept from doing so. This didn't used to be the case, but in the early 50's when LBJ was a senator, he didn't like the churches in Texas bad mouthing (to him) him.

re: #126 yenta-fada

You can bet Soros is figuring out a way to make the most money he can from this financial turmoil. He's a worm.

This is a "Manna From Heaven" time for the criminal. He thrives on such times. His rescue plan will be, in reality no matter what the flowery rhetoric, to permanently weaken the US economy and the $.

re: #107 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Thanks!

You're welcome! :) I thought the article was important, Soros is a scary, scary creature.

re: #141 Occasional Reader

Wasn't Obama's grandfather on that mission?

Which one?

re: #135 JohnDakota
Um, I didn't read Mandy's #90 with any such feelings at all. In fact I think it's an excellent suggestion for her to make and hope that Palin takes it.

re: #132 Intrepid

We're going to need a Tom Dempsey-type effort if it comes down to a field goal at the wire.

re: #135 JohnDakota

Mandy,

I'm pretty sure cursing is not generally looked highly upon in these debates. Since that appears to be your main debate tactic (ie. "Fucking despicable bastards!" #43 as well as dozens of other), of course along with accusing people of being pedophiles, i think it would be best for you to keep your 'suggestions' to yourself. You'd only hurt Gov. Palin's chances tomorrow.

The language police don't get thier badges until after Obama is crowned.

re: #141 Occasional Reader

Wasn't Obama's grandfather on that mission?

That's right... and he still won't come out of the bathroom. By the way the McCain campaign is stooping to a new low trying to connect Joe Biden with the Second World War, something that happened when he was only 3 years old.

re: #146 MandyManners

Ignore it, Mandy. Please?

re: #126 yenta-fada

You can bet Soros is figuring out a way to make the most money he can from this financial turmoil. He's a worm louse.

Had to correct that for you - worms are useful little critters, lice are not!

re: #159 Kenneth

That's right... and he still won't come out of the bathroom. By the way the McCain campaign is stooping to a new low trying to connect Joe Biden with the Second World War, something that happened when he was only 3 years old.

I missed it.
How are they trying that?

re: #155 realwest

Um, I didn't read Mandy's #90 with any such feelings at all. In fact I think it's an excellent suggestion for her to make and hope that Palin takes it.

A fucking right RW heh

re: #152 FurryOldGuyJeans

This is a "Manna From Heaven" time for the criminal. He thrives on such times. His rescue plan will be, in reality no matter what the flowery rhetoric, to permanently weaken the US economy and the $.

BINGO!

I think that it's appropriate to say that, even if Barry Hussein Obama isn't a mohammedian homicide cultist or doesn't have sympathies towards them. his actions as President, which would include retreating from the fight, screwing over Israel, and "talking" to Iran would be no different from a President who actually was.

re: #160 Dianna

Ignore it, Mandy. Please?

I'll try. I just don't want the libel to go unrefuted: I never accused anyone of being a pedophile.

re: #49 yma o hyd

Not only that Yma, the Obama gets zillions in contributions from unknown foreign sources. One can only imagine. I have never seen a more blatantly corrupt election. Makes the Watergate era seem juvenile.

re: #155 realwest

He's dragging something in from yesterday.

re: #160 Dianna

Ignore it, Mandy. Please?

Really!
Mandy -- *whack* me! I had an impure thought recently!

re: #159 Kenneth

That's right... and he still won't come out of the bathroom. By the way the McCain campaign is stooping to a new low trying to connect Joe Biden with the Second World War, something that happened when he was only 3 years old.

Linkie, please, or shut up and stop trying to spread fertilizer.

re: #135 JohnDakota

Mandy was reposting my suggestion.

As to:

of course along with accusing people of being pedophiles

You're lying.

re: #144 looking closely

If Six Flags Texas wants to rent out its private facility to Muslims for a day, I don't have a problem with that. They can do whatever they like, and if it makes business sense for them to do it, why not?

But I don't know why they "need" a special day.

They 'need' a special day to make Six Flags clean for the muslims. Get rid of the hot dogs and pork barbecue. No beer there so that's not an issue. It keeps the non-muslims (also considered unclean) away from the chosen.

re: #147 yenta-fada

Tee effing Hee.

I'm sure JohnDakota wasn't expecting the ol' ruler to the knuckles for that one. He's probably still working on his footing at lgf.

re: #154 OldLineTexan

Let's see...Ayers, Alinsky...Aldrin...Armstrong...yep, Obama's grandpops made it to the moon.
/LLL & Kurt Vonnegut-type logic

re: #162 looking closely

Never mind. . .should have scrolled up in the thread.

I suspect the Biden/Palin debate will be less interesting than anticipated since Biden will have been beaten over the head to be polite and not-bloviate, and Palin will also be trying her hardest not to say anything too controversial or make any gaffe.

Both will trot-out their well-rehearsed talking points.

Still, in the obverse of what happened with Obama, so long as Palin doesn't make any terrible mistakes, and comes across as reasonable and educated (and I have no reason to think she wouldn't), she'll be the "winner" by default.

And of course, the media will portray Biden as the "winner" no matter what.

re: #162 looking closely

Sorry, OR & I are competing to see who can say the most ridiculous unhistorical nonsense, in an Obaminite manner. We're just shooting the shit.

re: #175 looking closely

Never mind. . .should have scrolled up in the thread.

I suspect the Biden/Palin debate will be less interesting than anticipated since Biden will have been beaten over the head to be polite and not-bloviate, and Palin will also be trying her hardest not to say anything too controversial or make any gaffe.

Both will trot-out their well-rehearsed talking points.

Still, in the obverse of what happened with Obama, so long as Palin doesn't make any terrible mistakes, and comes across as reasonable and educated (and I have no reason to think she wouldn't), she'll be the "winner" by default.

And of course, the media will portray Biden as the "winner" no matter what.

I predict Biden will try to bully her a bit.

No doubt they are bundling money also.

re: #159 Kenneth

By the way the McCain campaign is stooping to a new low trying to connect Joe Biden with the Second World War, something that happened when he was only 3 years old.

But you can't deny the Republican Richard Lugar provided sidearms to the Nazis, can you?!

Or that Republican Arlen SPECTRE has made repeated attempts on the life of a British Secret Service agent?!

Little Miss Ethics funnels 100K from her PAC to her hubby.

This will wash away off the news pages just as all the Democrats' slime usually does.

And in a related story, I went and visited the Washington DC headquarters of the University of California. The woman I had to meet was wearing an Obama button in Arabic while conducting official UC business....

re: #170 FurryOldGuyJeans

Again, it was intended as sarcasm, directed at the Obama campaign.

re: #166 MandyManners

I'll try. I just don't want the libel to go unrefuted: I never accused anyone of being a pedophile.

I know you didn't. It's not your fault certain parties are 1) dense; and 2) incapable of letting things go when they should.

However, in future, let's just not use that particular word unless we're discussing a certain religious figure!

re: #168 Dianna
Well, I don't know what he's dragging in from anywhere, he mentioned Mandy's post at #90 and that's what I was responding to.
And, although I REALLY hate to disagree with you, I don't see why she should ignore it - she's been attacked by someone over something that seems perfectly logical to me. I wouldn't ignore it if someone were to make base accusations against me - and neither would you!

re: #140 bosforus

You don't know Mandy very well, do you?

Actually I do.. I've read enough of her posts to know the vast majority are one line curses. Do I really need to quote them from a single thread ? I can already think of a good example from a few days ago.

Victor,

I'll handle this one, Mandy.
John:
Go piss up a rope.

mmmmmm.. golden shower.. it is kinda cold today where I'm at.

Mandy_lackof_manners

Oh, for the last fucking time: I NEVER ACCUSED ANYONE OF BEING A PEDOPHILE.

I beg to differ

re: #169 jwb7605

Really!
Mandy -- *whack* me! I had an impure thought recently!

TMI! Waaaay too TMI!

re: #151 Perplexed

There's the rub. "Some churches are responsible, and some aren't" There are plenty of responsible organisms in the USA, and I just think churches shouldn't be in the politics business. LBJ? Perfect example.

I enjoy Mandy's swearing.

re: #172 Perplexed

They 'need' a special day to make Six Flags clean for the muslims. Get rid of the hot dogs and pork barbecue. No beer there so that's not an issue. It keeps the non-muslims (also considered unclean) away from the chosen.

I see. I suppose then that the Muslims simply not ordering or eating any of the above wouldn't be good enough.

Again, I have no problem with Six Flag accomodating here, if that's what they choose to do. Their park, their call.

It might make business sense for them to have a special "Muslim" day if the park would otherwise likely be empty that day, and they can get a large number of Muslims to show up. Even if its a break-even for them, its still likely worth it for public relations.

re: #88 gop_patriot

Turn the banks into GSEs (like Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac) or just nationalize them outright.

I would pass on that.

re: #185 JohnDakota

Never mind then. I'll leave the room for this one.

re: #154 OldLineTexan

Which one?

With John Glen, silly.

re: #135 JohnDakota

You didn't read that whole exchange from a couple of days back very well, did you? If you had, you'd have noticed that Mandy used the original poster's own words (a slam against Sharmuta being a racist) and simply substituted one word, turning the sentence back on the OP.

You came on later in the conflict and took the OP's side, IIRC. So either your reading comprehension isn't very well developed, or you're simply a shit-stirrer.

Perhaps both. Either way, in this particular Mandy post you're ragging on, she merely is quoting the post (#75) of Occasional Reader, only with bold text.

I'd encourage you to engage in thinking when you read the posts here. It will turn out so much better for you if you do.

Of course Protestant (white) churches are watched closely by the IRS - but O's church and all the African American churches around the country are completely free to invite politicians to "preach" on Sunday mornings, denigrate the opposition party, and hold "get out the vote" for the guy who was just in the pulpit.

They should ALL lose their non-prophet status. (Sorry, couldn't help myself.)

re: #51 Sharmuta

Pissed Off Minds Think Alike ?

re: #188 pat

You heard that old expression, "she swears like a sailor"...?

Well, Mandy taught the sailors how to swear.

re: #186 Dianna

TMI! Waaaay too TMI!

Dang. I was hoping I'd have to explain. I've got to leave now, though.
I have etchings that need cataloging.

re: #181 RaiderDan

And in a related story, I went and visited the Washington DC headquarters of the University of California. The woman I had to meet was wearing an Obama button in Arabic while conducting official UC business....

I hope you snapped a cell-phone picture and sent it to her superiors! That's not something UC allows.

re: #177 Edgar
I predict Biden will not succeed in bullying her.

Most Christian churches have a political leaning, be it left or right. And, I would guess some of them are engaged in exactly the same practice as these guys, with some being even more overt. Let's not pretend that this is exclusive to this group. I am a recovering Catholic and seem to recall getting some very political lectures from some priests. I was also encouraged to participate in activities that were totally political. That was more towards the right. I have been to churches that are totally liberal and push (hard) the agenda of the Dems. I think all of these churches and mosques should be stripped of their tax free status, it's a joke that we all pretend there is no politics in religion. Islam is infused with politics, you cannot separate the spiritual parts from the political parts. Most Christian churches are not as bad as that, but people attend certain churches because it fits their world view. The Reformation (and Counter-Reformation too) were not totally spiritual events, it was almost as much about political power of the church as well. Right now, there is a lot of "cherry picking" going on when it comes to this stuff. Let them do what they want, but we need to give up the illusion that they are not political.

re: #194 ladycatnip

They should ALL lose their non-prophet status. (Sorry, couldn't help myself.)

HAHAHAHAHA!

re: #184 realwest

I addressed the person being a jerk, first.

re: #185 JohnDakota

I beg to differ

You can beg all you want; you're still lying.

re: #167 vagabond trader

Not only that Yma, the Obama gets zillions in contributions from unknown foreign sources. One can only imagine. I have never seen a more blatantly corrupt election. Makes the Watergate era seem juvenile.

Seen from outside the USA, and especially if one doesn't have access to the internet, this would look now like a done deal.

I'd say, however, that B0 and his minions, as well as the MSM, are still disregarding and scorning the people not just in the flyover countries but in the large towns and cities as well.
I'd also say that there is indeed a very silent majority which will give B0 a nasty surprise.
Its not the polls or the blogs which make me think so - its the observations here of no B0-signs where there ought to be many - and of the difference in the size of the crowds attending B0 and McCain or Palin.

Still - all McCain/Palin supporters need to work their socks off until Nov 4th, to counter all these ploys by ACORN and now the mosques.

re: #185 JohnDakota

You're wasting everyone's time.

re: #179 Occasional Reader

Yeah, but at least McCain invented frozen french fries, and isn't fun how his running mate used to be in Monty Python?

re: #201 Desert Dog

Most Christian churches have a political leaning, be it left or right. And, I would guess some of them are engaged in exactly the same practice as these guys, with some being even more overt. Let's not pretend that this is exclusive to this group. I am a recovering Catholic and seem to recall getting some very political lectures from some priests. I was also encouraged to participate in activities that were totally political. That was more towards the right. I have been to churches that are totally liberal and push (hard) the agenda of the Dems. I think all of these churches and mosques should be stripped of their tax free status, it's a joke that we all pretend there is no politics in religion. Islam is infused with politics, you cannot separate the spiritual parts from the political parts. Most Christian churches are not as bad as that, but people attend certain churches because it fits their world view. The Reformation (and Counter-Reformation too) were not totally spiritual events, it was almost as much about political power of the church as well. Right now, there is a lot of "cherry picking" going on when it comes to this stuff. Let them do what they want, but we need to give up the illusion that they are not political.

you must be careful of where you go to church. in all my years i've never heard such and i was raised by a methodist minister

re: #193 Intrepid

You didn't read that whole exchange from a couple of days back very well, did you? If you had, you'd have noticed that Mandy used the original poster's own words (a slam against Sharmuta being a racist) and simply substituted one word, turning the sentence back on the OP.

You came on later in the conflict and took the OP's side, IIRC. So either your reading comprehension isn't very well developed, or you're simply a shit-stirrer.

Perhaps both. Either way, in this particular Mandy post you're ragging on, she merely is quoting the post (#75) of Occasional Reader, only with bold text.

I'd encourage you to engage in thinking when you read the posts here. It will turn out so much better for you if you do.

For God's sake. I thought this was done with. Anyway, for the record, she did indeed use the slur. Anyone who reads it can see it was not merely "turning the sentence" - it was meant to insult.

re: #191 bosforus

Yes, it's a bore, isn't it?

re: #188 pat
Me too - she's very adept with it!*

*Mandy, just in case, that was meant as a compliment to you.

Don't they usually just keep weapons and bombs at Mosques? I thought they left the political activity to the loudspeakers on the top of mosques.

I am gonna post something I did on the overnight thread to show how I can relate to the democrats tactics. It was in response to someone who said that the dems are getting into his head.

*******

Guard the gates of your mind.

My side of the family have been yellow dogs for three generations. This will be the first election ever they will vote republican. I have witnessed how the democrats fight. They fight dirty and in your face. My husbands side of the family are republicans. They are always polite and just go to the voting booth and vote. This year is different. We need to fight just like they are. Bring it to them. Obama knows what he is doing and he is getting into the head of every person who allows it. He is a bully and studied the master Alinsky. They will steal Ohio if allowed. This plan has been in the works for a long time.

They are counting on us giving up. They smell blood and they are going in for the kill. We must fight the ground game because we will not win the air war. They are the rats in the tunnels and we must smoke them out and mow them down. NOW.

*******
My father was an original UDT/Seal and was in Vietnam before we even said we were there. My parents were dems by tradition and I would never have questioned their patriotism. They are the dems the Obama people have pushed out of their new party.

I went to the townhall in Nashville when McCain was here. When I walked up and there were many Obama supporters yelling and screaming in protest against McCain. There was a line of McCain supporters waiting for the doors to open and they were being very polite and not saying anything. I could not take it .....I remembered how dems fight so I walked over and got in their face and took it to them. They backed off. I called them for what they were Marxist. The television crew came over and was filming. When my husband saw me on television screaming Marxist at them he was shocked. I know that my father who has since passed on would have wanted me to take it to them because even though he was a traditional dem he was an American first.

It is a dogfight now and we must take it to them. The financial crisis is bad but it is nothing compared to what an Obama administration will be. Fight on! Never surrender!

re: #207 Kenneth

Yeah, but at least McCain invented frozen french fries

Plus, he took out all those terrorists single-handedly at the Nakitomi Building.

re: #209 Edgar

For God's sake. I thought this was done with. Anyway, for the record, she did indeed use the slur. Anyone who reads it can see it was not merely "turning the sentence" - it was meant to insult.

utoh mandy their teaming up on ya heheh

re: #205 yma o hyd

It is amazing the number of people I speak to who are completely unaware of what is going on. The View and nightly news are their cherished sources of info. Quite pathetic and frightening.

OT - Idiot / Presidential Candidate for the Green Party / Racist / Bigot / Former Congresswoman from Georgia Cynthia McKinney claims that during Katrina, the DoD executed 5,000 prisoners in Louisiana. Of course, there is no evidence - but watch this conspiracy / whack-job theory gain traction with the nutroots and Loose Change / Alex Jones types.

Well, at least she hasn't blamed the Jooos for this one.....yet.

re: #138 The Other Les

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re: #213 JacksonTn

Great post! Keep up the good fight.

re: #214 Occasional Reader
Damn, I thought it was the Nakitomi Tower! Good thing I wasn't in charge! LOL!

re: #209 Edgar

For God's sake. I thought this was done with. Anyway, for the record, she did indeed use the slur. Anyone who reads it can see it was not merely "turning the sentence" - it was meant to insult.

I saw the whole thing, and you're mistaken. Mandy did, indeed, merely turn the sentence. It's your own fault, and your whining yesterday was tiresome.

Don't start it today.

I cut people an awful lot of slack. You are managing to make me not want to cut you any. And your "friend" is not helping you, either.

re: #209 Edgar

For God's sake. I thought this was done with. Anyway, for the record, she did indeed use the slur. Anyone who reads it can see it was not merely "turning the sentence" - it was meant to insult.

You were the one who used the original sentence - against Sharmuta - and Mandy simply substituted one word and turned it back against you.

Then you couldn't take the logic of it, so you cried like a baby.

If Mandy's sentence was made to "insult", then yours was too. But you cannot admit that, since that would validate Mandy's point.

You got beat, badly, and tried to cry "foul". It didn't work.

And yes, I too thought this was done with, until your buddy John brought it up.

That's on him, not on you. But for you to continue playing the victim here is ridiculous.

re: #217 Athos
Hey my friend - see the next thread over!

re: #215 ratso

You're not helping.

re: #213 JacksonTn

Well done you!
And congratulations on your courage!

re: #224 Dianna
But he's trying!

re: #209 Edgar

Just can't let go can ya? Ever here about separating one's ego from one's argument? You should consider it sage advice......

Anyone who reads it can see it was not merely "turning the sentence" - it was meant to insult.

It was meant to highlight the vapidity of your insult and argument.

It is hilarious to see you this worked up over the application of your own words and tactics towards you. I suggest you reflect on this before your reputation is irretrievably toast.

re: #185 JohnDakota

F-Off, adults are talking.

re: #224 Dianna
ok, i'll shadup sorry

re: #227 realwest

But he's trying!

thank you RW

Troll logic is illogic.

re: #230 ratso
Hey you better cause We're Talking Here! LOL!

One of Mandy's first posts at LGF made me an immediate admirer. Say whatever, whenever Mandy.

re: #223 realwest

Thanks.....that's what I get for not keeping my head on a swivel and refreshing often enough. Of course, participating and doing conference calls at the same time isn't helping.

re: #193 Intrepid

I read the whole exchange the other day. In fact if YOU would have 'thought for a second' about what Edgar had posted YOU would have noticed that it was a suggestion about how Sharmuta should go about acting when calling people racists and sexist, particularly under conditions where no evidence of either are present.

Sharmuta #431 from (Obama/Acorn thread):

"re: #426 MandyManners
You seem to like to attack the women here with ad homs.
Very astute observation! Racist and a sexist?"

To which Edgar responded:
Edgar #469:

re: #464 Sharmuta
Report this one too, Edgar.
Charles- I think Mandy had a point- he might be sexist too. Hope you and the monitors aren't too busy today.
Well, Sharmuta, you might be racist. But I wouldn't accuse you on a public forum without evidence.

Notice the qualifier 'might'. It's important.. it's not a definitive accusation, in fact it was placed there spectifically to illustrate he would not actually accuse anyone of anything WITHOUT EVIDENCE. Something Sharmuta obviously has no problems with.

To cap this off MandyManners thinks i'ts wicked cool to call people pedophiles through parody;

MandyManners #483:

You might be a pedophile but I wouldn't accuse you of it on a public forum without evidence.

As you can see.. Edgar was called a racist and a sexist.. he responded by saying without evidence those sorts of accusations should not be thrown around.. and in classic MandyM form she called him a pedophile. Class all around.

re: #230 ratso

ok, i'll shadup sorry

More Bailey's cousin?

Heard a local African-American pastor on the radio over the weekend, and she was doing the same thing.

re: #235 Athos
LOL! I only know about the next thread cause it's at the top of the comments box!
And I'll be damned if I could ever read LGF and take conference calls at the same time!

I have learned much in my first few days as a lizard and quickly have determined those with giant claws, I will be very, very careful in addressing those in haste, best to keep my eyes covered and become commentless.

re: #236 JohnDakota

I noted the qualifier. Too bad you and your buddy Edgar didn't notice my qualifier. Very interesting both of you would show up again on the same thread playing this game. Are you friends in real life or, dare I suggest it(?)- sock puppets?

re: #237 scottishbuzzsaw
awwww cuz, your the best

re: #236 JohnDakota

Just drop it! Enough!

re: #236 JohnDakota

Are you Edgar's sockpuppet or just equally stuck on stupid trying to make a nonsensical argument?

You said -

Notice the qualifier 'might'. It's important.. it's not a definitive accusation, in fact it was placed there spectifically to illustrate he would not actually accuse anyone of anything WITHOUT EVIDENCE.

This is to provide 'cover' for the attack by Edgar.....with specific mention of the 'qualifier' being important. Yet, when Mandy turned the exact phrase from Edgar back on him -

You might be a pedophile but I wouldn't accuse you of it on a public forum without evidence

you make zero mention of that all important qualifier that get's Edgar off the hook - yet is in the same place in Mandy's post. Instead you say this about Mandy's comment -

. and in classic MandyM form she called him a pedophile. Class all around.

Apparently the qualifier exists as such only when it fits your argument? If anyone lacks intelligence and class, it is you, hypocrite.

So much for your reputation. Perhaps its time to pull the chain on you.

re: #241 Sharmuta

I've reported both of them.

This is the sort of nonsense I really, really hate. Another freaking slap-fight and hissy-fit carried on and on and on.

It's tiresome. It's a waste of Charles' bandwidth, and it tries my temper.

re: #244 athos

Oh, please! oh, please!

Have they devised a way that The Messiah would be able to walk on water?

If not, why don't 'they' give it a shot.

How about parting Seas?

Although he's probably accomplished that with Michelle. She looks about that size.

re: #245 Dianna

I agree, yet you'll forgive me for offering up a defense of myself. However- I shall engage the Cone of Silence from this point forward.

re: #247 Elcid

Have they devised a way that The Messiah would be able to walk on water?

If not, why don't 'they' give it a shot.

How about parting Seas?

Although he's probably accomplished that with Michelle. She looks about that size.

Well, he's already claimed that sea levels will recede because of him (Berlin speech).

re: #248 Sharmuta

I agree, yet you'll forgive me for offering up a defense of myself. However- I shall engage the Cone of Silence from this point forward.

yes, "cone of silence" that works, thanks Chief

re: #243 Dianna

Just drop it! Enough!

Holy moly, this is still going on? Is this a blog comment section or is someone getting vetted for a presidential election here?

re: #250 ratso

yes, "cone of silence" that works, thanks Chief

What? ;p

re: #252 Sharmuta

What? ;p

the best way to get along, keep your head down and mouth shut, remain silent.

re: #252 Sharmuta

What? ;p

And I laughed every time...;>)

re: #241 Sharmuta

Nice pair! Piggies stick out much? LOL.

re: #59 johnnyreb

I am leaning toward the illegal side on this. We have seen the IRS threaten certain churches in the US about "preaching from the pulpit" and possibly losing their tax exempt status.

I assume you meant "campaigning" from the pulpit. Preaching from the pulpit is something I'm ok with, but I've seen both.

the moslems won't get in any trouble for this. they will just down play the religious component of islam.
they will focus on the other aspects of the rop.
the political, economic, legal and military 'branches' of islam.
because of course, the religious part is just a beard for all the main components, anyway.

re: #213 JacksonTn

Yes! Let's all stop fighting with each other and focus on beating Obama!
I'm in Arizona which may seem like a guarantee McCain state but I just heard on the radio that Obama is gaining here. I DON'T BELIEVE IT. This is garbage because on the ground I've never seen anything like it- so much anti-Obama feeling- alot of it is underground because people don't want to appear racist. I moved in a number of different circles in different cities and everybody is anti-Obama, Democrats and Republicans. Everyone is afraid of taxes and socialistic ideas that will lose them their jobs, etc. This could hurt the dems in congress too. So I think these polls are LIES.

Everyone here is from back east so many people are sending chain letters, articles, etc. back to their huge families in Pennsylvania or Ohio (that they moved here to get away from.) I'm getting stuff from New York. I have a huge cousin list.

I'm trying to send persuasive articles and videos I find here to as many people in other states as I can. We need to get this stuff out to other people in addition to talking amongst ourselves.

One depressing thing I just don't get- the list of names that produced the Obamajugend video with NBC producer Jeff Zucker, etc had several names that seem Jewish. . . . why oh why?

re: #249 eschew_obfuscation

Wow, what a guy. Does he know that in the end, he gets nailed to a cross?

I don't think he heard that part from Jeremiah.