That's their problem

wow, read the whole Parker piece, I think a lot of people might agree at least in part

Then they need to just come out and say they will support Obama and stop writing as if they really care if a republican gets in office.

And not all conservatives are enthusiastic about McCain.
And not all liberals are enthusiastic about Obama.
And not all liberals are enthusiastic about Biden.

This is a non-story, and part of the orchastrated "Was Palin vetted enough? Is this a mistake?" angle pushed by Obama's people.

Let's not let them choose the items to be debated.

Well, whatever the truth in these two articles, we'll see for ourselves on Thursday night.

These two don't sound very conservative in these columns. Kathleen sounds almost exactly like the liberals that are fretting about the Biden liability when talking about possibly dumping her from the ticket.

Kathleen Parker is an American syndicated columnist. Her columns frequently focus on family, sex roles, and race.

It doesn't appear that her forte is political commentary

re: #4 Silhouette

And not all conservatives are enthusiastic about McCain

I wonder how many here voted McCain in the primaries? I did not...

re: #4 Silhouette

I know plenty of Dems who are downright peed off about their ticket.
I'll take mine over theirs any day.
So will a lot of Dems.

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

re: #2 JeremiahRight

wow, read the whole Parker piece, I think a lot of people might agree at least in part

Perhaps, but I'm not one of them. Gov. Palin is smart enough to get advice from experts on anything she doesn't know herself, and she has executive experience, something even Sen. McCain doesn't have.

Leadership is what counts.

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever was liked by 100% of the people.

Right after her speech at the convention I was excoriated here for having the temerity to suggest the very thing. I have not changed my mind. She may help McCain win the election, but I was under the impression that McCain was not just about winning - he is Mr. "Country first." I do not think her nomination puts the country first. Regardless, we are stuck with her now and had better make the best of it. I'll sit down now and take my licks.

re: #8 JeremiahRight

I wonder how many here voted McCain in the primaries? I did not...

I didnt either: what we are doing is working together to stop a worse case scenario (Obama) from happening to our country. You BET I will vote for the patriot over this communist/socialist/moonbat Obama. Was McCain my top choice? No he sure wasnt, but I will back him and Palin all the way. We can whine about the other issues AFTER the 4th.

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

And if Obama were white.......

Rod Dreher jumped ship a while ago, IMHO.

The election is McCain vs. 0bama.

re: #15 paint-right

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

Um, his experience as a community organizer?
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re: #10 Charles

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

Ya non-partisan hack, ya.
//

re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is
this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever
was liked by 100% of the people.

Saddam Hussein was. He had the poll numbers to prove it!

With the terrible beating Gov Palin has taken in the MSM, it is really disappointing to see conservative writers and pudits jump on the band wagon. At a time when the MSM is forcing Obama and his terrorist/ thug friends at us, and covering up for every corrupt Democrat out there, I wish they would not add to the bashing. These folks on the right are trying to stand up for American, and I'd like to see at least one side give them a chance and support these brave people.

Kathleen Parker says she's being barraged with hate mail for that column:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

The fierce reaction to my column has been both bracing and enlightening. After 20 years of column writing, I’m familiar with angry mail. But the past few days have produced responses of a different order. Not just angry, but vicious and threatening.

Some of my usual readers feel betrayed because I previously have written favorably of Palin. By changing my mind and saying so, I am viewed as a traitor to the Republican party — not a “true” conservative.

Obviously, I’m not employed by the GOP. If I were, they’re seriously in arrears. But what is a true conservative? One who doesn’t think or question and who marches in lockstep with The Party?

The emotional pitch of many comments suggests an overinvestment in Palin as “one of us.”

Okay, here comes Palin on Hannity's show...

re: #10 Charles

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

Same here. Vote for those who I feel are best qualified and suited to do the job at hand.

My family tries to say I am a Republican and I have to CONSTANTLY disabuse them that I am only a Conservative. If there were ever a politician who just happened to have a D after their name that I had a majority agreement with their positions, I would be voting for them.

I have been irritated by the way Palin tends to duck questions with generic campaign boilerplate instead of taking them head-on. It's a bad habit. She CAN answer personal questions personally, but she only does it after being pressured, and that plays clean into the hands of the current Fix & Destroy strategy of making her out to be an idiot from the sticks.

I don't want to hear about John McCain the maverick as interpreted by Sarah Palin, I want to hear about Sarah Palin. Aggressively. She needs to show off that college education a little bit.

Did she spend 5 years working with a domestic terrorist?

Did she become a millionaire Harvard Law School graduate but still want to change America, at least the few pieces of it she can see far off in the distance from the fourth story of her multi-million dollar home?

Does she fret about the price of arugula or ballet lessons?

Does she give speeches that sound like the second half of "Flowers for Algernon" when her teleprompter goes on the fritz?

Did she try to save the bailout bill by making a bunch of telephone calls, without actually making the telephone calls?

Does she have fleets of glassy-eyed school children touring the country singing paeans to her presumed future glory?

No?

Then we're already starting in positive territory.

#10 Charles.
What makes the best people best?

re: #21 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Saddam Hussein was. He had the poll numbers to prove it!

So was Fidel Castro. Oh, wait, you mean democratically elected leaders. Then Saddam doesn't fit the bill either.

re: #15 paint-right

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

What qualifies ZerObama to be Vice-President?

NObama!
NoBiden!

There is a kernel of truth here. We have a choice between inexperience in the VP office, or inexperience in the Oval office. Choose well.

re: #23 Charles

Kathleen Parker says she's being barraged with hate mail for that column:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

Parker has some rather thin skin, IMHO, from reading her other articles.

re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever was liked by 100% of the people.

Palin in one interview (I think it was Hannity's) said "you leave a few feathers ruffled".
About one in five feathers, according to the last vote margin.

re: #15 paint-right

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

He was a "community organizer" in Chicago, that is his only real qualification.

The man is the single most unqualified candidate I have ever seen in my lifetime, as well as what I have studied about our history.

He helped organize a housing project, in which every house is no longer inhabitable, in fact, they have been condemned.

That is what America will look much like if he is elected.

I think selecting Palin was a brilliant move by McCain - in order to get elected. Politically - she is tremendously refreshing. There may be others deemed more qualified - Romney, Rudy - but neither of them brings excitement and change.

Crap. I said the "C" word.

re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever was liked by 100% of the people.

That's not true...I heard that Saddam Hussein got 100% of the vote. :)

I'm not enthusiastic about politicians in general.

Palin on Hannity now.

Charles

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

Palin's not the best person for President. Not even close. But she is acceptable for a VP when you consider the alternative. J-Mac is not going to die anytime soon, but if something does happen, she will surround herself with a competent staff, and probably do like BHO....get the grizzled old veteran as VP to look over her shoulder.

I fear the massive growth of gov't reach under a Obama-Pelosi rule. Just look at who he has been trained under.

McCain and Palin are the two best names on my ballot. That's all I need.

As i stated on a previous thread, the US Constitution states the following:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

What part of that disqualifies Ms. Palin? or Obama for that matter?

This is about ideology. Do you want a Marxist as POTUS?
I don't, personally.

re: #27 Diamond Bullet

Did she spend 5 years working with a domestic terrorist?

Did she become a millionaire Harvard Law School graduate but still want to change America, at least the few pieces of it she can see far off in the distance from the fourth story of her multi-million dollar home?

Does she fret about the price of arugula or ballet lessons?

Does she give speeches that sound like the second half of "Flowers for Algernon" when her teleprompter goes on the fritz?

Did she try to save the bailout bill by making a bunch of telephone calls, without actually making the telephone calls?

Does she have fleets of glassy-eyed school children touring the country singing paeans to her presumed future glory?

No?

Then we're already starting in positive territory.

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

Not all conservatives are enthusiastic about Sarah Palin.

There are conservatives who feel the country deserves to be punished by an Obama presidency - the disastrous Carter years gave us Reagan, see? - but fail to see that we are still living with the unfortunate long-term consequences of the "Carter punishment".

Kathleen Parker writes for Jewish World Review, an online site that's generally conservative and hosts lots of conservative writers. She's making a point that's not totally off base. I'll have to watch the debate, and with some seasoning she may make a great prez, but I can't help wondering if McCain thought it was just a cool thing to do. As for voting, I'm with Charles with the exception that I'll never vote for another Dem for prez or Congress as long as the party is the party of PC liberalness, which means probably the rest of my life. I may not vote GOP, but I ain't voting Donkey.

Dreher came down with a raging case of BDS some time back, so I've given up on him.

The fierce reaction to my column has been both bracing and enlightening. After 20 years of column writing, I’m familiar with angry mail. But the past few days have produced responses of a different order. Not just angry, but vicious and threatening

90% of Big Media, hollywood, etc are doing everything they can to destroy this woman. Some people may have no tolerance for a conservative giving them assistance.

Obama - $700 BILLION is necessary but not sufficient!

Better hide your wallet.

re: #47 galloping granny

Obama - $700 BILLION is necessary but not sufficient!

Better hide your wallet.

It's just the first step of his massive socialist wealth distribution scheme...

re: #44 SFGoth

I may not vote GOP, but I ain't voting Donkey.

Then that'll be one less vote to offset the Dems.

re: #41 rawmuse

Well my songwriting friend, as you know, the words you quoted above were written before the age of American Political Royalty. That APR is culled from Harvard, Yale or Princeton graduates with law degrees and often large family wealth. Which is why most politicians today say things like "I was the son of a millworker" etc.

I wouldn't fault any woman for questioning Palin. That's every person's prerogative—to think for themselves and make an INDIVIDUAL decision. But when you look at the other side and how Biden and Obama are both lacking so many areas (ethics....substance...), just how can we negate Palin?

re: #47 galloping granny

GG, whenever a politician opens its mouth to say anything about money I instinctively check for my wallet.

re: #47 galloping granny

Obama - $700 BILLION is necessary but not sufficient!

Better hide your wallet.

Yeah, I love this stuff. Somehow, we know it's gonna cost $700 Billion, but credit markets are frozen because we can't value the assets...apparently the assets are worth $700 Billion by fiat.....(and no car jokes please) .....I'm not sure I understand that ;-P

How's she doing on Palin?

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

re: #54 TheMatrix31

How's she doing on Palin?

Excuse me, on Hannity.

Not everyone agrees on everything 100%, even those with like minds. If we did, we'd all be drinking from the same pitcher of Kool-Aid. An Obama presidency scares me, based on his past "associations". McCain and Palin present themselves as intelligent Americans who care about our country and have a set of values that most of us conservatives agree on... Good enough for me!

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

Not at all. Both are laudable goals. But I'm leery of people who enjoy all the best that America has to offer, and come away thinking it sucks. Like Warren Buffett's old adage, if you dropped Obama into, say, the African slum his half-brother occupies, we'd never have heard of him. America made Obama, not the other way around. I've heard him grudgingly admit that maybe...once. Self-reflection does not appear to be the One's strong suit.

re: #8 JeremiahRight

I wonder how many here voted McCain in the primaries? I did not...

McCain is obviously not a conservative, and to me, it seems as if he threw the party a bone, so to speak, by choosing Palin. Yes, she is inexperienced, but so is Obama.

Will McCain turn our country into a Marxist Utopia?
Probably not.

If McCain is not around, will Palin turn our country into a Marxist Utopia?
Probably not.

If Obama is elected, will he try to turn our country into a Marxist utopia?
More likely than not.

So.... we once again we are left to vote for the lesser of all evils.

re: #13 Creeping Eruption

Right after her speech at the convention I was excoriated here for having the temerity to suggest the very thing. I have not changed my mind. She may help McCain win the election, but I was under the impression that McCain was not just about winning - he is Mr. "Country first." I do not think her nomination puts the country first. Regardless, we are stuck with her now and had better make the best of it. I'll sit down now and take my licks.

The more I research the financial crisis (without letting the resurgent threat of Russia and the escalating problem of Iran fade from my radar) the more it becomes apparent that the good of the country is John McCain. Putting the country first means electing John McCain. It's as simple as that. Now with George Soros creeping out of the shadows to manipulate the financial crisis to his advantage, with the ursine growls in Eastern Europe, with the Marxist shenanigans in the Caribbean and the shrill laughter of the madman in Persia, this is no time to undermine the cause of the country. If McCain doesn't get elected this fall, then we're going to see an administration that makes Carter look like Reagan and Clinton look like Mother Teresa. This is no time to falter.

Personally, I'd rather see a President Palin than a President Obama or a President Biden.

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

No of course not. But going to an Ivy League instead of a state college is not a qualification for POTUS either. An Ivy League education is no guarantee these days that you got one speck better an education - or even as good an education - as your state college attending peers.

from an article linked on Drudge:

Meeting Tuesday with the editorial board of The Des Moines Register, McCain was asked why he picked the Alaska governor, someone "who doesn't have a lot of experience."

"Thank you, but I disagree with your fundamental principle that she doesn't have the experience," McCain replied before citing Palin's work as a PTA member, city council member, mayor and governor. "You and I just have a fundamental disagreement, and I am so happy the American people seem to be siding with me."

When it was suggested that Palin's lack of experience worried voters, McCain turned sarcastic.

"Really? I haven't detected that in the polls, I haven't detected that among the base," he said. "If there's a Georgetown cocktail party person who, quote, calls himself a conservative who doesn't like her, good luck. I don't dismiss him. I think the American people have overwhelmingly shown their approval."

the whole thing is here

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

Well then, this midwesterner will just have to agree to disagree with a fellow midwesterner.

re: #49 solomonpanting

Then that'll be one less vote to offset the Dems.

Won't matter a bit in California. Frankly, I was definitely voting Libertarian until Bob Barr won the nom. Ugh. Remember that stupid trick of his making a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction (or even plea bargain) a basis for denying a handgun? That was the same stunt some stupid Congressman from Virginny pulled on Title IX that has forced colleges to dump men's programs wholesale when not even half the female students want to participate in sports. Yuck. What a mess.

re: #58 Diamond Bullet

I Couldn't agree with your statement more.

re: #31 Meremortal

There is a kernel of truth here. We have a choice between inexperience in the VP office, or inexperience in the Oval office. Choose well.

?
We have a choice:
Inexperience in POTUS/VP or Experience in POTUS/VP...
Palin has more executive experience than both of the Dems on the ticket...

re: #65 SFGoth

Won't matter a bit in California. Frankly, I was definitely voting Libertarian until Bob Barr won the nom. Ugh. Remember that stupid trick of his making a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction (or even plea bargain) a basis for denying a handgun? That was the same stunt some stupid Congressman from Virginny pulled on Title IX that has forced colleges to dump men's programs wholesale when not even half the female students want to participate in sports. Yuck. What a mess.

Barr is the Republican version of a partisan hack.

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Excuse me, on Hannity.

She's doing grrrrrrrreat!

Just curious. Where are the liberal pundits decrying Obama's unsuitability to be president? Or his poor choice is selecting Biden as his running mate? I haven't seen any, but then I read the conservative blogs.

Did the Republican "dissenters" publicly profess their concern about Dan Quayle? I ask that seriously because I wasn't paying close attention to American politics at that time. I have to wonder what they are thinking. Do they think that a change to the ticket at this time would help McCain's chances? Do they think that 8 years of Obama won't do irreparable damage to the country?

Democrats with a voice in the national media seem to be solidly behind Obama, regardless of what private concerns they may have about him.

(Hannity asking Palin about Ifill right now.)

We don't seem to have that luxury on our side.

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Excuse me, on Hannity.

She sounds fantastic - energized, well informed, strong vocally, her responses are crisp and well organized, and she's clearly been primed to go big and broad on offense :)

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

Ffft! You hicks would think that!
/going to the raquet club

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

Agreed. I've had the misfortune to spend time around such people. Most of them are insufferable twits with delusions of superiority. Texans especially love taking them to the cleaners in business deals.

[Present company excepted, of course, if any are here. There are exceptions to all generalizations]

I think Parker is getting the hate mail because many feel that she is just "piling on" Palin along with the rest of the MSM. Does she have the right to criticise? Of course. Unfortunately, there has been almost zero examination of BO by the MSM. I think this is conservative frustration at the complete inequity of coverage of the candidates.

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Excuse me, on Hannity.

Go to WABC AM website, get the streaming audio.

re: #46 Dave the.....

90% of Big Media, hollywood, etc are doing everything they can to destroy this woman. Some people may have no tolerance for a conservative giving them assistance.

Palin seems to be doing enough to destroy herself. The woman is an absolute trainwreck. I can't really fault her for it--she didn't ask to be chosen, her pick was a calculated political decision designed to get votes rather than find the best VP, and it's unreasonable to expect her to turn down such a mind-blowing, possible once in a lifetime offer. But she's turned out to be a net negative for Senator McCain, and has given fodder to those who wonder if he still has the judgment, faculties, and temperament necessary for the office.

Palin's answer on Ifill: You know I'm not going to let it be a concern.

She goes on to talk about the ticket being in an underdog position - saying it's motivating to her to hear Gwen's comments on her book, saying she is motivated to try "that much harder".

re: #67 anotherindyfilmguy

?
We have a choice:
Inexperience in POTUS/VP or Experience in POTUS/VP...
Palin has more executive experience than both of the Dems on the ticket...

As was said during the 1988 campaign, which would you rather wish for? That your presidential pick lives through his term, or dies in office?

Oh and by the way - Biden's middle name is "Robinette". : )

Speaking Barry's better half (sic)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp

re: #62 galloping granny

No of course not. But going to an Ivy League instead of a state college is not a qualification for POTUS either. An Ivy League education is no guarantee these days that you got one speck better an education - or even as good an education - as your state college attending peers.

I was not bashing state schools - went to one myself and I am doing just fine. I was questioning whether attendance at an ivy-league school is per se a negative thing. I would argue not. Had I had the grades I would have gone to Harvard in a heart beat, snobs or no..

She's hosting a fundraiser next door to my work at 5:30pm today. Our building managers just warned us of a protest starting at 4:30pm that will disrupt traffic. So, California Democrats are protesting, what, her right to speak? Her right to campaign and raise money? And in doing so they plan on disrupting traffic for thousands of Angelenos? Wtf?

So many questions...

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

If the first teaches you to look down your nose on all those who did not ahve that opportunity, and if the second only applies to you and your friends, but everybody else mustn't even think of aspiring to become one - then yes, there's something inherently wrong: in that person with such attitudes.

Take a bow, B0!

No way am I basing an assessment on a couple of ridiculous gotcha interviews conducted by a biased media.Governor Palin has my respect for being able to contain herself and not telling Couric or Gibson to pound sand.Meanwhile, the very thought of the Obama and his horde occupying the WH makes my blood boil.

Just heard Palin's interview on Hannity.

I love this woman.

My wife is pissed.

I heard her on Hugh Hewitt yesterday. What a refreshing politician! From what I heard she would be a much better candidate than either barry or joe! She needs to be on more radio shows.

Anyone here not seen this yet?
Midpoint Politics
It's interesting.

...Minutes before the vote on this unprecedented turn of events, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke to the assembled multitude. She got to what, to her, is the heart of the matter in her second sentence.

The requested sum "is a number that is staggering," she began, "but tells us only the costs of the Bush administration's failed economic policies - policies built on budgetary recklessness, on an anything-goes mentality, with no regulation, no supervision, and no discipline in the system."

With the entire American economy said to hang in the balance, Pelosi's No. 1 concern was politics.

More shamefully still, Pelosi used a well-known technique that Adolf Hitler called "the Big Lie" in an attempt to shift blame for the crisis. The technique stems from the fact that people cannot believe people will tell colossal lies.

But Pelosi did. ....

For Nancy Pelosi, politics came first

re: #80 capitalist piglet

Oh and by the way - Biden's middle name is "Robinette". : )

Still not as good as my former senator, Chuck Robb: Charles Spittle Robb.

Did his parents want him to get beaten up as a kid?

Everything depends on tomorrow's debate.

re: #80 capitalist piglet

Oh and by the way - Biden's middle name is "Robinette". : )

? I know a guy named Joe Robinette

One of the reasons I like Gov. Palin is because she doesn't already have all the answers. I want someone in the Executive Branch who doesn't know the answer to the question before you finish asking it.

Are we going to know exactly, precisely who added what to the bailout plan?

Who is responsible for the pork? Can we know?

re: #67 anotherindyfilmguy

?
We have a choice:
Inexperience in POTUS/VP or Experience in POTUS/VP...
Palin has more executive experience than both of the Dems on the ticket...

Agreed, Palin has more executive experience than both Dems. She is still relatively inexperienced compared to most candidates for national office. (I support her, BTW.) Joe and O are woefully inexperienced in this area.

Nothing wrong with going to an upscale school or being rich.

What is wrong in that sentence above was that he succeeded in the American system, and now wants to "change" the system that allowed him to succeed.

He wants to break what clearly was working.

Whether she is the best candidate or not is a question that has not been fairly presented because she has been destroyed by the propogandists who are not particularly interested in her doing well.

If she was judged by the standards of her counterpart, Biden, the entire dynamic would be different.

Is she a little back on her heels? Considering what has been done to her she really is not doing to badly.

But, Thursday will tell the story. She will need to make her case. But for those RINO's who object, I could care less because they do not speak for me and many others who consider ourselves to be conservative.

For my part, I think she will do great and there is empiracle data to support my confidence - she has a solid record and has proven to be a good debater. Go Governor!

Charles,

I was trying to scroll over one of the top links, about 10 down from the top, when I noticed that the Paragon ad superimposes itself over the top of the text from the article - partial obscuring it so that the excerpts can't be read. Are you aware of this?

If so nevermind - and thanks for all you do.

DT

re: #76 Gang of One

Go to WABC AM website, get the streaming audio.

Thanks for the link, I'm in class though.

re: #79 Ward Cleaver

As was said during the 1988 campaign, which would you rather wish for? That your presidential pick lives through his term, or dies in office?

Doesn't corrolate.
Palin is being piled on by the MSM in a totally blatant way. If the same treatment was given to either Obamassieh or Biden they'd never have gotten as far as they did. There's nothing in my post about McCain making not getting through his terms or not. However, as far as executive experience goes she has both of the dems beat. McCain even has the dems beat in that regard when you add in his Military command time.

re: #97 TheMatrix31

Then pay attention!

re: #94 Silhouette

Nothing wrong with going to an upscale school or being rich.

What is wrong in that sentence above was that he succeeded in the American system, and now wants to "change" the system that allowed him to succeed.

He wants to break what clearly was working.

If it allowed Obama to get to where he is, maybe the system isn't working!

The new narrative should be that the Democrat ticket is upside-down.

re: #60 Wild Knight

The more I research the financial crisis (without letting the resurgent threat of Russia and the escalating problem of Iran fade from my radar) the more it becomes apparent that the good of the country is John McCain. Putting the country first means electing John McCain. It's as simple as that. Now with George Soros creeping out of the shadows to manipulate the financial crisis to his advantage, with the ursine growls in Eastern Europe, with the Marxist shenanigans in the Caribbean and the shrill laughter of the madman in Persia, this is no time to undermine the cause of the country. If McCain doesn't get elected this fall, then we're going to see an administration that makes Carter look like Reagan and Clinton look like Mother Teresa. This is no time to falter.

Well said!

(Needed to be quoted in full.)

I believe Palin is the Queen of Common Sense—again, it goes back to Buckley's comment about the first 100 names in the Boston phone book—who else do we need in Washington? Look where all that elitist snobbery, know-how has gotten us! Talk about change! I'm willing to see it crash and burn than put up with the status quo.

re: #84 yma o hyd

If the first teaches you to look down your nose on all those who did not ahve that opportunity, and if the second only applies to you and your friends, but everybody else mustn't even think of aspiring to become one - then yes, there's something inherently wrong: in that person with such attitudes.

Take a bow, B0!

I don't follow you. I get your first point but not your second: " . . .if the second only applies to you and your friends, but everybody else . . " Surely you are not suggesting that someone who has worked their ass off to become very wealthy is supposed to share that wealth with everyone else - are you?

re: #97 TheMatrix31

Thanks for the link, I'm in class though.

Tell the kids to go outside and play for a few minutes.

When we've got an Obama on the cusp of being the POTUS, I really, really don't care what people have to say about a Veep...just doesn't matter to me in the least...whatever they say, it's a huge "So what?" when one considers who's running for President of the United States...The sheer hideousness of Obama dwarfs all other concerns...

re: #101 DistantThunder

The new narrative should be that the Democrat ticket is upside-down.

Rudy makes that observation every time he's interviewed (Fred Thompson, also)

re: #100 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If it allowed Obama to get to where he is, maybe the system isn't working!

I thought he went to private schools. I know he sent his children to private schools.

re: #90 Ringo the Gringo

Everything depends on tomorrow's debate.

Honestly, unless Biden says something stupid, or Palin completely shits the bed (neither of which is unrealistic), I can't see the VP debate doing a whole lot. For all the fuss about Palin (and I think she's a bad choice), there are very, very few people who will base their vote on how either Sarah Palin or Joe Biden performs in a debate for the #2 position.

re: #77 jamie

Palin seems to be doing enough to destroy herself. The woman is an absolute trainwreck. I can't really fault her for it--she didn't ask to be chosen, her pick was a calculated political decision designed to get votes rather than find the best VP, and it's unreasonable to expect her to turn down such a mind-blowing, possible once in a lifetime offer. But she's turned out to be a net negative for Senator McCain, and has given fodder to those who wonder if he still has the judgment, faculties, and temperament necessary for the office.

I disagree. She's energized the base that McCain typically pisses off. I don't idolize her, but I think she's a solid pick. She doesn't have the foreign policy experience, but then neither does Obama, and neither did Bill Clinton (don't forget, he was a small state governor, too). I think her judgment is way better than Obama's or Biden's.

This is from a few threads back, but gor what it's worth, I sent Greenling an e-mail asking where they get their funding and got a reply back from Orson Aguilar, Incoming Executive Director, stating the following:

Greenlining obtains its revenues from the following sources:

Rental Income (we owe a building)

Interest Income (we have a small endowment that earns interest)

Legal Fees (we are active at the California Public Utilities Commission and are awarded fees when our intervention is successful)

Private Foundations (namely The California Endowment, The San Francisco Foundation, California Wellness Foundation)

Annual Economic Summit (individuals purchase tickets and some corporations purchase tables)

Corporate Foundations (Bank of America, WAMU, Wells Fargo, HSBC, Citi, Merrill Lynch, Union Bank)

Ref. my #81
Subj: Thesis - Michelle Obama aka Michelle LaVaughn Robinson
OBAMA'S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED
In her senior thesis at Princeton , Michelle Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on 'crime and hatred'.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were 'ineradicably racist'. The 1985 thesis, titled 'Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community' was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to 'Whites at Princeton , it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first...' However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, 'If those 'Whites at Princeton ' really saw Michelle as one who always would 'be Black first,' it seems that she gave them that impression'.
Most alarming is Michelle Obama's use of the terms 'separationist' and 'integrationist' when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a 'separationist' view of race. 'By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.'
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her 'further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant..'
Michelle Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but she elevates black over white in her world.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
'There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost.'
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she's first lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of their enrollments.'
The conclusion of her thesis is alarming.
Michelle Obama's poll of black alumni concludes that other black students at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common American culture more than they value the color of their skin. 'I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of id entification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still mainta! ! in a certain level of identification with the black community. However, these findings do not support this possibility.'
Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire? Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.
Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted with one another.
The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama's thoughts and world view seen through a race-based prism. This is a very divisive view for a potential first lady that would do untold damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama administration.
Michelle Obama's intellectually refined racism should give all Americans pause for deep concern.
Now maybe she's changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to grind with America . Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously racist comment about American whites? cont...

re: #77 jamie

Trainwreck nothing. It's that fucking left-wing happy-troll Katie Couric who is the trainwreck. Never referring to Governor Palin as "Governor", being condescending, and a typical left-wing hack. In spite of the interviews, her ratings are still in the sub-basement.

re: #106 J.S.

1. Obama
2. Biden
3. Pelosi

Not a pretty picture.

re: #65 SFGoth

Won't matter a bit in California.

In that aspect you are correct.

RCP Average 09/05 - 09/25 --
Obama 52.8%
McCain 39.5%

OT - To Swing State Lizards

If you have any available time - even just a few hours - please volunteer for the McCain/Palin campaign. There are a variety of ways to assist but they really need help making phone calls and going door to door. They even have a system so you can make phone calls from home if you like. You can find the nearest campaign HQ on the John McCain website. BHO supporters are starting to flood the swing states. We have to match their effort. Channel your rage and frustration in a positive way! It really does make a difference. Okay, I'll be quiet now.

re: #103 jill e

I believe Palin is the Queen of Common Sense—again, it goes back to Buckley's comment about the first 100 names in the Boston phone book—who else do we need in Washington? Look where all that elitist snobbery, know-how has gotten us! Talk about change! I'm willing to see it crash and burn than put up with the status quo.

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Yes. Yes! The combination of Sarah's apparent common sense and personal strength are worth more than an ivy league diploma in my view.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then pay attention!

What we're discussing right now is drier than the Sahara Desert. Or John Kerry. Whichever you prefer.

re: #111 DeafDog

This is from a few threads back, but gor what it's worth, I sent Greenling an e-mail asking where they get their funding and got a reply back from Orson Aguilar, Incoming Executive Director, stating the following:

Greenlining obtains its revenues from the following sources:

Rental Income (we owe a building)

Interest Income (we have a small endowment that earns interest)

Legal Fees (we are active at the California Public Utilities Commission and are awarded fees when our intervention is successful)

Private Foundations (namely The California Endowment, The San Francisco Foundation, California Wellness Foundation)

Annual Economic Summit (individuals purchase tickets and some corporations purchase tables)

Corporate Foundations (Bank of America, WAMU, Wells Fargo, HSBC, Citi, Merrill Lynch, Union Bank)

Well, well, well...let's look at the little cockroaches.

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

Maybe it would be helpful for McCain & Palin to emphasize the deep bench of potential cabinet appointees: Rudy - Sec. Def. (then State if Petraeus); Romney - treasury or commerce; I like JC Watts and Michael Steele too. Other names escape me at the moment, but who's on Obama lists besides half-baked Marxists and incompetents?

Ref. 112 Cont...
I am sure that it will.

PS: We paid for her scholarship.

Spits repeatedly

NoBama 08 !

re: #118 TheMatrix31

You're discussing how global warming caused the Sahara Desert?

The criticism from those two writers about Palin seems to be their felling that she's not very well-versed in the minutiae of economic policy and foreign policy.

While that may be true to some extent, it does not bother me at all. Because what matters is not how many details you know about this or that subject, but whether you're looking at it the right way in the first place.

Bill Clinton knew details. EU diplomats know details. Even Vladimir Lenin knew details. But they had the wrong motives.

I'd rather have a newcomer with a coherent moral vision than a "policy wonk" who wants to either glide us into socialism or toward bureaucratic corruption.

Add David Frum to the list too

re: #87 IgofAntioch

I heard her on Hugh Hewitt yesterday. What a refreshing politician! From what I heard she would be a much better candidate than either barry or joe! She needs to be on more radio shows.

Igo, I would not call Palin a politician, not as we have come to define them and think of them. This is a Jane Six Pack who was minding her own business and saw things in public office that she wanted to change -- and she went for it; public office, that is. It's another part of the American Dream, if I may say so, the right and the chance to actually step to the plate and challenge the Machine Hacks and other degenerate office-holders. She was not born into a dynasty, is not some scion of a wealthy, connected family, or anything that reeks of privilege and class.

She is the real deal, flaws and all. Whatever her faults are as a "politician" she makes up for in earnestness and genuine concern that the common American is not screwed over by either party.

re: #121 NomadOfNorad

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

Don't worry, they are signing up 13 year olds to drive them to the polls.

Sarah should have an advance copy of Gwen's book and ask her to sign a copy of the book when she is asked the first question. Some appropriate remark would be in order. It would put Gwen on notice as to her conflict of interest and her unethical behavior right up front.

re: #110 Ward Cleaver

I disagree. She's energized the base that McCain typically pisses off. I don't idolize her, but I think she's a solid pick. She doesn't have the foreign policy experience, but then neither does Obama, and neither did Bill Clinton (don't forget, he was a small state governor, too). I think her judgment is way better than Obama's or Biden's.

I absolutely agree with you about firing up the conservative base: by no means should "net negative" be interpreted as "entirely negative." But the base would probably have rallied around Tim Pawlenty too, and it would have forced BHO to spend a lot more money in Minnesota. Further, I think Pawlenty wouldn't have required the sheltering that Palin has, nor do I think he would come close to being a drag on the ticket.

re: #91 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm going to guess there was someone named Robinette in his family. Maybe it was his mother's maiden name.

Someone on HotAir suggested a nickname for Obama/Biden: MoonBat and Robinette.

Back later. I think I see a big "O" in the sky.

re: #119 taxfreekiller

Sarah just did the interview on Hannity,

She gets it, she knows to stay calm, knows to push the issues of the contrast between she and McCain and the two commie loons.

She is big trouble for the liberals of any sort, commie, social liberal, culture liberal, spending liberal, the commie loon democrats and the msm have it right from their view point, she is big trouble for them , Sarah can get out a huge vote for the R's in Nov.

"She is the "bad to the bone" moment in time for any liberal of any sort.

They need to put both of the them in commercials. They have obama in commericals talking to me - trying to lull me into a communist stupor.

re: #98 anotherindyfilmguy

Doesn't corrolate.
Palin is being piled on by the MSM in a totally blatant way. If the same treatment was given to either Obamassieh or Biden they'd never have gotten as far as they did. There's nothing in my post about McCain making not getting through his terms or not. However, as far as executive experience goes she has both of the dems beat. McCain even has the dems beat in that regard when you add in his Military command time.

The case I was trying to make is that in the 1988 campaign, Bentsen was considered the better choice for the top of the ticket (instead of Dukakis), and that the ticket should be flipped. That's not the case with the GOP this year.

re: #113 Honorary Yooper

Trainwreck
nothing. It's that fucking left-wing happy-troll Katie Couric who is
the trainwreck. Never referring to Governor Palin as "Governor", being
condescending, and a typical left-wing hack. In spite of the
interviews, her ratings are still in the sub-basement.

The "Couric" is the standard unit of measurement for crap on South Park. Bless those boys.

re: #129 IgofAntioch

Sarah should have an advance copy of Gwen's book and ask her to sign a copy of the book when she is asked the first question. Some appropriate remark would be in order. It would put Gwen on notice as to her conflict of interest and her unethical behavior right up front.

One has to assume that she will make some kind of attack right out of the gate.

their felling = their feeling

PIMF

re: #126 winston06

Add David Frum to the list too

Do they want Obama to win more than they want Palin to lose?

It's starting to look like the post election loss assessment is getting under way early this cycle. Palin is not the problem, it's more due to the fact that McCain is running a Dole redux campaign so as to end up with a nice guy image who can dig himself out from underneath the landslide loss, go back to the senate and calmly wait for his 15 minutes of fame endorsing who knows what product.

His me too attitude on the bailout scam and his refusal to go into full attack mode has probably doomed his campaign. There is still time to turn this around but I see no signs that he's willing to take the necessary steps.

re: #111 DeafDog

This is from a few threads back, but gor what it's worth, I sent Greenling an e-mail asking where they get their funding and got a reply back from Orson Aguilar, Incoming Executive Director, stating the following:

Greenlining obtains its revenues from the following sources:

Rental Income (we owe a building)

Interest Income (we have a small endowment that earns interest)

Legal Fees (we are active at the California Public Utilities Commission and are awarded fees when our intervention is successful)

Private Foundations (namely The California Endowment, The San Francisco Foundation, California Wellness Foundation)

Annual Economic Summit (individuals purchase tickets and some corporations purchase tables)

Corporate Foundations (Bank of America, WAMU, Wells Fargo, HSBC, Citi, Merrill Lynch, Union Bank)

That last one is very telling. Shakedown money.

re: #121 NomadOfNorad

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

Linky?

re: #121 NomadOfNorad

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

got link?

re: #121 NomadOfNorad

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

They'll be 18 eventually. It's like voting on credit - you'll make up the difference later.

re: #125 zombie

YES YES YES

Well said, my sentiments exactly.

re: #121 NomadOfNorad

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

Uh, shouldn't that be sort of , um, illegal? I mean, isn't the minimum voting age 18 for federal elections or do the rules only apply to those who obey them? If that's the case then we have anarchy already.

re: #133 Ward Cleaver

Don't get me started on Lloyd Bentsen and his little M16 video.

Gag.

I had actually voted for the man in the past.

re: #133 Ward Cleaver

The case I was trying to make is that in the 1988 campaign, Bentsen was considered the better choice for the top of the ticket (instead of Dukakis), and that the ticket should be flipped. That's not the case with the GOP this year.

That's fine, I wasn't trying to infer the Republican ticket needed to be flipped. Oddly enough though, thinking about Palin on top or bottom she wouldn't look bad either way...

re: #130 Jamie

I absolutely agree with you about firing up the conservative base: by no means should "net negative" be interpreted as "entirely negative." But the base would probably have rallied around Tim Pawlenty too, and it would have forced BHO to spend a lot more money in Minnesota. Further, I think Pawlenty wouldn't have required the sheltering that Palin has, nor do I think he would come close to being a drag on the ticket.

I don't think she's a drag on the ticket, but tomorrow night will tell.

re: #121 NomadOfNorad

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

They figure if they're old enough to be molested as pages by Dem congressman (remember Gerry Studds, Massachusetts) they're old enough to vote

re: #82 Creeping Eruption

I was not bashing state schools - went to one myself and I am doing just fine. I was questioning whether attendance at an ivy-league school is per se a negative thing. I would argue not. Had I had the grades I would have gone to Harvard in a heart beat, snobs or no..

Since I went to school not far from Harvard - and could have gone there - and since I have a daughter who is an Ivy herself - I guess I have no problem with baldly stating that the advantage to an Ivy is specifically NOT the education that you receive. It is the network you access and the chops of having the name on your sheepskin.

Harvard in particular has had at least one grading scandal over the years because of professors giving everyone As on the basis of being "smart enough" to get into Harvard.

Certainly all the evidence suggests that Obama was in fact admitted to Harvard specifically because of the color of his skin. Note that he did not walk out of Columbia even cum laude, to say nothing of Magna or Suma.

Truthfully, I'm glad to see somebody who went to Idaho State or some such heading to Washington. We need more like her there rather than the "elites" that fill the halls of DC these days. We need people who know about engineering and teaching and building things and starting businesses, doctors, nurses, scientists - people who KNOW something rather than people who get a fancy Ivy League degree and then spend the rest of their lives pretending they know enough to rule the rest of us.

Mccain: "Fight with me. fight with me! Fight with me!"

C'mon John I'm ready!

I read a lot of conservative writers and after reading of these two names I'm left wondering...

Who?

I don't recognize them as any great, current 'thinkers' of the conservative movement.

re: #142 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

They'll be 18 eventually. It's like voting on credit - you'll make up the difference later.

SUB-PRIME VOTING!

re: #113 Honorary Yooper

Trainwreck nothing. It's that fucking left-wing happy-troll Katie Couric who is the trainwreck. Never referring to Governor Palin as "Governor", being condescending, and a typical left-wing hack. In spite of the interviews, her ratings are still in the sub-basement.

Katie Couric? Who gives a damn about someone who decided to ditch a very successful Today Show career to go put everyone to sleep on CBS Evening News? Couric isn't on a national ticket, Palin is. And by many measures, her performance thus far has been underwhelming and of little help to Senator McCain, aside from rallying the base, something other conservatives could have done.

Incidentally, I only watched bits and pieces of the interview, rather than when it aired. I find Couric to be fine for a magazine show, but a total snoozer when it comes to hard news. Did she address her as Mrs. Palin? Sarah? I don't remember hearing either, but if she did, that only underscores my disdain for her journalism.

re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're discussing how global warming caused the Sahara Desert?

Might as well be. We're analyzing conversational analysis techniques.

re: #150 DistantThunder

Mccain: "Fight with me. fight with me! Fight with me!"

C'mon John I'm ready!

Did you see the video of him getting "testy" (AllahPundit's word, I guess) on HotAir today? He. Looks. Amazing.

I fell in love with the guy.

He even took a shot about the FDR gaffe.

re: #125 zombie

If you want Stupid (that's with a Capital S) combined with being a "policy wonk" -- one need look no further than a Joe Biden...Now there's an idiot -- and I really don't care how much the press claims that he "knows" foreign policy...Biden opposed the first Iraq war; wanted to pay Arabs to get them "on side"; wanted to see Iraq divided into 3 ethnic territories...etc, etc. Not even the most ill-informed are that outrageously stupid...

re: #147 Ward Cleaver

I don't think she's a drag on the ticket, but tomorrow night will tell.

I don't happen to think so, either.

But let's start off with a policy wonk question (duties on imports of fruit from Chile as compared to bottled wine from the same source, and its impact on the California economy) and see what we get. I mean, that's what the Veep does every day, right?

re: #149 galloping granny

Since I went to school not far from Harvard - and could have gone there - and since I have a daughter who is an Ivy herself - I guess I have no problem with baldly stating that the advantage to an Ivy is specifically NOT the education that you receive. It is the network you access and the chops of having the name on your sheepskin.

Harvard in particular has had at least one grading scandal over the years because of professors giving everyone As on the basis of being "smart enough" to get into Harvard.

Certainly all the evidence suggests that Obama was in fact admitted to Harvard specifically because of the color of his skin. Note that he did not walk out of Columbia even cum laude, to say nothing of Magna or Suma.

Truthfully, I'm glad to see somebody who went to Idaho State or some such heading to Washington. We need more like her there rather than the "elites" that fill the halls of DC these days. We need people who know about engineering and teaching and building things and starting businesses, doctors, nurses, scientists - people who KNOW something rather than people who get a fancy Ivy League degree and then spend the rest of their lives pretending they know enough to rule the rest of us.

You won't get any arguments from me on that. You mad a great point though, which is the strength of an ivy school - the connections. It isn't what you know in life, rather it is who you know.

re: #137 DistantThunder

Do they want Obama to win more than they want Palin to lose?

They are journalists, not GOP officials. If they think the party has made a poor choice they figure it's their job to talk about it---from a viewpoint that is sympathetic to the GOP ticket. Quite legit IMHO.

re: #146 anotherindyfilmguy

That's fine, I wasn't trying
to infer the Republican ticket needed to be flipped. Oddly enough
though, thinking about Palin on top or bottom she wouldn't look bad
either way...

Don't let Todd Palin hear you say that!

re: #138 Annar
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Americans say they want an outsider, an insurgent (a maverick?) who won't play the political games to get elected. The problem is that Americans seem prone to vote for an ersatz version as opposed to the real thing.

re: #153 Jamie

So Palin did badly in an interview you didn't watch?

re: #142 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

They'll be 18 eventually. It's like voting on credit - you'll make up the difference later.

Who are we to deny these, er, subprime votes?

re: #104 Creeping Eruption

I don't follow you. I get your first point but not your second: " . . .if the second only applies to you and your friends, but everybody else . . " Surely you are not suggesting that someone who has worked their ass off to become very wealthy is supposed to share that wealth with everyone else - are you?

No. What she said in clear English is that if your Ivy League education teaches you to sneer at those who went to Ohio State - or no college at all - and if only you and your friends get to be millionaires while those who are "beneath" you foot the bill, then yes, there is something inherently wrong with going to Harvard.

re: #104 Creeping Eruption

I don't follow you. I get your first point but not your second: " . . .if the second only applies to you and your friends, but everybody else . . " Surely you are not suggesting that someone who has worked their ass off to become very wealthy is supposed to share that wealth with everyone else - are you?

Not at all - sorry if I was a bit oblique here!

I meant that quite a few people have got rich not by honest work, but by barely legal means. Once they get the power they crave, they'll prevent those who work honestly to keep their well-earned gains by taxing them to the hilt: its called pulling the ladder up behind you.
Thats what B0 and his cronies are doing - and that is what I think is truly bad.

re: #163 OldLineTexan

So Palin did badly in an interview you didn't watch?

That makes sense. Biden and Obama are out there doing badly right now. I'm not witnessing it, but hey... why not just assert my opinion for no good reason?

re: #139 Ward Cleaver

That last one is very telling. Shakedown money.

True. I did not get % or amounts from any of the categories, but I would imagine the last category is high.

re: #121 NomadOfNorad

Ruh-roh! The Democrat's youth turn-out-the-vote campaigns are signing up 15-year-olds to vote!

The Repubs should send in a bunch of 13 year olds to vote, then. If birth dates are no longer legally required (i.e., they can all say, I just look thirteen; you have no right to demand any ID, etc.), let's see how fast the Dems move to change that if we take advantage of it by lining up our own kids as troops - we have lots more of them in every state than they do.

/ (is there such a thing as half a sarc tag?)

re: #165 galloping granny

Damned straight.

re: #8 JeremiahRight

I wonder how many here voted McCain in the primaries? I did not...

When McCain was a key force in filibustering judicial nominies in the Senate I declared that I wouldn't vote for him for anything for as long as I lived. I was shown first hand how stupid that statement was when I was introduced to Mr. Obama who scares the living daylights out of me.

I pray that McCain gets elected. But if that happens, the very next day I will brace for what he has in store for our country.

Lesser of two evils. And by far.

re: #166 yma o hyd

Thanks for clarifying. I was reading it and my head was screaming "SOCIALISM" which didn't quite fit with what you were saying.

re: #140 Racer X

A caller to Hannity's readio show described how her own 15yo son, who looks older than he is, had come back from the mall stating that he'd been signed up to vote, even though when asked at the time he stated he was 15.

re: #10 Charles

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

I used to say the same thing myself. However, I have come to the conclusion that I cannot vote for a Democrat - for any office - at any level of government. And unfortunately that leaves only one realistic choice. So, I don't see myself as a Republican, so much as I see myself as an anti-Democrat.

re: #173 NomadOfNorad

A caller to Hannity's readio show described how her own 15yo son, who looks older than he is, had come back from the mall stating that he'd been signed up to vote, even though when asked at the time he stated he was 15.

Who signed up the kid? ACORN?

re: #145 OldLineTexan

Don't get me started on Lloyd Bentsen and his little M16 video.

Lloyd Bentsen made a video with an M-16? Usually those are more like "hot girls in bikinis firing automatic weapons!", but Lloyd Bentsen... well, different strokes, and all that.

What kind of bikini did he wear?

Charles, I agree, I don't vote for the party, I vote for the best people. However, I really don't see what room there is for debate in this election. The Democrats are so far gone I don't know when we can ever again to expect them to choose an acceptable candidate. Obama simply must not become President. It is unthinkable. It is not open for consideration. McCain has his faults, and perhaps Palin has her faults (personally I think it's far too early to judge her), but there is no question that they are the better choice. The ONLY choice, the ONLY option, at this point. What are we supposed to do, vainly waste our vote on a third candidate and let Obama into the White House to implement his devastating Socialist agenda? No thanks. If Carter did decades worth of damage to this country in just 4 years, Obama will do terminal damage.

re: #163 OldLineTexan

So Palin did badly in an interview you didn't watch?

I didn't cite that interview as the lone reason she has performed poorly, but I did watch significant portions of the interview on YouTube, I just didn't watch it in its entirety as presented by CBS. I really find it difficult to watch Couric present the news for an extended period of time and prefer to surf between the cable nets.

The last few times I have been confronted with libral idiocy, my reply has been, "What, you don't support that American citizens have the right to believe in God, to own a gun for sport or protection, or to disagree with librals? Sounds pretty intolerant and unAmerican." The look on their faces is priceless.

re: #157 OldLineTexan

I don't happen to think so, either.

But let's start off with a policy wonk question (duties on imports of fruit from Chile as compared to bottled wine from the same source, and its impact on the California economy) and see what we get. I mean, that's what the Veep does every day, right?

Oh, definitely.

/

Palin's somewhat misunderstood and not communicating as well as she could. People in AK are strong willed individuals in general and try to focus on essentials, not the BS and fluff. She might state what she personally believes, and those beliefs are strong, but on social issues she's not going to force anything down anyone's throat -- you don't do that in AK. (remember that smoking pot is legal there for instance.) Social issues, & how you dress and/or live just aren't a big deal up there.

Sometimes Alaskans think they've addressed something as a non-essential with a word or two when they really haven't to the satisfaction of the average lower 48'er. It took me a long while to figure out that you have to say something three times and three different ways so people down here believe you. They don't understand that most people in AK are dead honest, and when they say something it's a given that they mean it. So some of the gotcha questions are answered in an "I'm assuming you get this" couple of words that don't address it the way most folks down here want you to dwell on things overlong.
Sometimes it comes across as babble if you aren't used to it, but it's not; she's short cutting to the real point and she needs to stop that and speak full sentences for each shorthand segment so people can keep up.
In other words Alaskans aren't used to speaking in lawyerese and defining what the meaning of "is" is, and it generally bores them to tears to have to. She's going to have to stop speaking Alaskglish.

'Red Ron' was not missed when he left the Dallas Morning news. He is one of those 'Gergin Conservatives' that libs love to use

I love Sarah Palin. She has proven herself already. Just because she isn't a fricking elitist prick from a rich family, the talking heads are flying off the handle. They make me want to puke.

I have a lot in common with Sarah Palin, and I KNOW Sarah Palins. She is just what DC needs - someone with common sense instead of being like our current lot - haughty, spoon-fed, my s**t doesn't stink, pay to play, get along to go along, money talks and bulls**t wallks Congress/DC crapartists who are in power. F**k 'em all. We need 400 Sarah Palins! Out with the garbage!

re: #162 taxfreekiller

Bank of America

Just bought Countrywidehomefraud.

They did the nation wide "me-trick-you" bank ID card for all the illegals,
who then went to country wide and got a no paper trail mortgage loan.

Now those loans are on Bank of Americas books,

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO NEED THE MOST OF THIS BAIL OUT
THEY HAVE LOTS OF DEMOCRATS ON THE BOARD, THE ONES FROM
FLEET/BOSTON MORTGAGE LOAN ARE ALL KENNEDY AND KERRY BUDS
AND HUGE DEMOCRATIC ELECTION MONEY WHORES...

FOLLOW THE LOANS, THAT IS WHERE THEY WANT TO HIDE YOUR MONEY

BAC stock was up $3 today. They will make out like banchees under this deal.

Why McCain will win

ohn McCain will win the presidential election, Kellyanne Conway, one of the country’s most respected Republican pollsters, tells Newsmax.

Even before McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, Conway was telling clients and select Republican groups and members of Congress that McCain would win.

In the past, Conway’s predictions have been eerily accurate. In the 2004 presidential race, she won the Washington Post’s Crystal Ball Award. Nine days before the election, she predicted the precise outcome in the popular vote — 51 percent for George Bush and 48 percent for John Kerry.

Conway is president and CEO of the Polling Co., a firm she founded. But she doesn’t base her predictions on every fluctuation of the polls. Rather, she looks to polls to tell her what qualities voters care about in a candidate. Then she applies her own political instincts to the results.

“I predicted the 2004 race not based on horse race numbers,” Conway says. “I stopped looking at horse race numbers, including my own polls. Because they all said the same thing, as they do now: 48-46, 47-47, 50-45, 45-48. It’s always going to be tighter than a shrink-wrapped mummy.”

Instead, she says, "I look at what the polls say about attributes. I noticed in 2004 that George W. Bush led John Kerry by double digits for eight straight months on the question of who is more likely to take a position and stick with it." Conway decided that in the 2004 election, such consistency was “treasured currency to voters.” After all, it was the first presidential election since the 9/11 attacks. “There’s so much uncertainty in the world,” she reasoned. “I didn’t believe people wanted to invite more uncertainly and insecurity in their national leadership.”

In particular, Conway figured that Kerry’s reputation as a flip-flopper would matter to women.

“Women don’t like to rock the boat politically or otherwise, and particularly for women voters, they were going to look for a more sure-footed anchor in the storm,” she says. “To women, a flip-flopper is the functional equivalent of the guy who never calls, and always changes his mind.”

Fast forwarding to 2008, Conway says voters still want those attributes of steadiness, consistency, and principled leadership in their president.

“Now instead of focusing on likeability in the campaign, we’re seeing a focus on leadership,” she says. “Instead of covering biography, we’re covering experience. Instead of only hearing about hope, we’re talking about the Hanoi Hilton again. In other words, we’re talking about what credentials really matter to most voters.”

Conway notes that a lot of polls ask about likeability: With whom would you rather go to the baseball game? With whom would you rather have a beer? Who would you rather have watch your kids for a couple of hours on a Saturday?

“I’m thinking, with three kids under the age of 4, some Saturdays I’d take any of the candidates,” Conway says. “But these polling questions are not the way the average American looks at the presidential candidates. The average American is more focused on leadership than likeability. And more focused on qualifications than quality of speakership.”

Voters ask themselves a second question about a candidate, Conway says: Are you like me?

“That’s really where Palin has been able to punch up the volume and the excitement and even the content of this ticket, because she’s so relatable,” Conway observes. “She has the common touch. She has connective tissue with the average voter.”

As we’ve seen and heard more from John McCain’s running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn’t know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions warrant her promotion.

Well, if she isn't qualified, Obama and Howdy Doody sure as hell ain't qualified. I think there is a deeper resentment within this woman.

re: #173 NomadOfNorad

PIMF! Radio show, not readio show! :D

re: #168 DeafDog

True. I did not get % or amounts from any of the categories, but I would imagine the last category is high.

They're the ones with the deepest pockets.

Rental income from a building? Chicken feed compared to that.

re: #125 zombie

The criticism from those two writers about Palin seems to be their felling that she's not very well-versed in the minutiae of economic policy and foreign policy.

While that may be true to some extent, it does not bother me at all. Because what matters is not how many details you know about this or that subject, but whether you're looking at it the right way in the first place.

Bill Clinton knew details. EU diplomats know details. Even Vladimir Lenin knew details. But they had the wrong motives.

I'd rather have a newcomer with a coherent moral vision than a "policy wonk" who wants to either glide us into socialism or toward bureaucratic corruption.

Agree, zombie...I'm tired of the "Know It All's" that have been in place for decades.

I'll take a whole new group in Washington if they have the right thought process and character...sometimes you need to have a new set of eyes to sort through the crap.

Experience=same old BS.

re: #174 Son of the Black Dog

I used to say the same thing myself. However, I have come to the conclusion that I cannot vote for a Democrat - for any office - at any level of government. And unfortunately that leaves only one realistic choice. So, I don't see myself as a Republican, so much as I see myself as an anti-Democrat.

I pretty much agree, after their attitude toward our energy independence. Enough is enough. However, I'd use the term anti-jackass instead. It fits better, IMHO.

/And yes, that is not a donkey the Dems use, it is a jackass. So used because reporters were calling Andrew Jackson a jackass in the 1820s. He took it and made it into the party symbol.

Gwen Ifill poll on MSNBC:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Reading Little Green Footballs is like reading Mein Kampf.

re: #176 Occasional Reader

Lloyd Bentsen made a video with an M-16? Usually those are more like "hot girls in bikinis firing automatic weapons!", but Lloyd Bentsen... well, different strokes, and all that.

What kind of bikini did he wear?

Sex aside, Lloyd hopped on the Clinton gun-ban wagon for political rewards.

/spit

re: #185 DistantThunder

No offense, but the opinion of a Repulican pollster on Newsmax doesn't exactly fill me with unshakeable confidence.

A caller to Hannity's readio show described how her own 15yo son, who looks older than he is, had come back from the mall stating that he'd been signed up to vote, even though when asked at the time he stated he was 15.

Republicans of course have get out the vote efforts. Calling those who are id's as supporting Republicans and reminding them to vote...offering rides. That sort of thing.

Democrats: Milwaukee....picking up the homeless and given them smokes if they vote for Kerry with an absentee ballot. Doing something similiar this week in Ohio.

2004 Eau Claire Wisc, going into nursing homes and telling the old folks to vote for Kerry with an absentee ballot.

re: #191 zenren

Gwen Ifill poll on MSNBC:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

72% voting "Get rid of her".

re: #192 Charles

Reading Little Green Footballs is like reading Mein Kampf.

WOW!

re: #192 Charles

Reading Little Green Footballs is like reading Mein Kampf.

"LGF and the slime that comprise their commentariat . . . ." LOL!

re: #178 Jamie

I didn't cite that interview as the lone reason she has performed poorly, but I did watch significant portions of the interview on YouTube, I just didn't watch it in its entirety as presented by CBS. I really find it difficult to watch Couric present the news for an extended period of time and prefer to surf between the cable nets.

I can empathize with that, but I do not agree with you at all. Howsomever, I must go and pick up my vehicle from the shop and make sure my mechanic pays his mortgage.

/

I can't abide Littlegreenfootballs.com

It's like reading Mein Kamph, you might get some insight on how insane some people are, but in the process you lose part of your soul.

That wasn't your soul nanite, you just broke wind.

I'm watching Bernie Sanders on C-Span.

Fuck, I agree with him.

re: #195 Dave the.....

Republicans of course have get out the vote efforts. Calling those who are id's as supporting Republicans and reminding them to vote...offering rides. That sort of thing.

Democrats: Milwaukee....picking up the homeless and given them smokes if they vote for Kerry with an absentee ballot. Doing something similiar this week in Ohio.

2004 Eau Claire Wisc, going into nursing homes and telling the old folks to vote for Kerry with an absentee ballot.

Don't forget slashing tires on GOP vans.

re: #173 NomadOfNorad

A caller to Hannity's readio show described how her own 15yo son, who looks older than he is, had come back from the mall stating that he'd been signed up to vote, even though when asked at the time he stated he was 15.

Cool!

Another vote for McCain?

re: #201 reno911

I'm watching Bernie Sanders on C-Span.

Fuck, I agree with him.

What?!?

re: #196 Ward Cleaver

72% voting "Get rid of her".

72% on MSNBC? That = 99.9% in the real world!

re: #174 Son of the Black Dog

I used to say the same thing myself. However, I have come to the conclusion that I cannot vote for a Democrat - for any office - at any level of government. And unfortunately that leaves only one realistic choice. So, I don't see myself as a Republican, so much as I see myself as an anti-Democrat.

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I feel the same way. Republican administrations move us slowly toward Socialism. Democrat administrations mean a faster slide in the same direction.

re: #202 Ward Cleaver

. . .by the son of a newly minted Congresswoman

re: #191 zenren

Gwen Ifill poll on MSNBC:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Wow, even the MSLSD dumba**** have a clue about this!

LGF and the slime that comprise their commentariat have long since forced out people that (much like me) don't toe the freeper worldview long ago.

And yet I'm upvoting them.

In other words,, even though I hate LGF for being slime, they are correct

re: #172 Creeping Eruption

Thanks for clarifying. I was reading it and my head was screaming "SOCIALISM" which didn't quite fit with what you were saying.

Me bad - too involuted writing style, my supervisor would have had conniptions!

re: #192 Charles

Reading Little Green Footballs is like reading Mein Kampf.

Ex-lizards get cranky when stinky whacks them.

re: #178 Jamie

I didn't cite that interview as the lone reason she has performed poorly, but I did watch significant portions of the interview on YouTube, I just didn't watch it in its entirety as presented by CBS. I really find it difficult to watch Couric present the news for an extended period of time and prefer to surf between the cable nets.

Couric has a very grating voice. She is pitched just a little bit too high on the girl end of the spectrum and it becomes annoying pretty rapidly.

re: #208 Florida Lady

Wow, even the MSLSD dumba**** have a clue about this!

72% say she has a conflict.

I personally believe Palin was a mistake to add to the ticket.

While she certainly fired up "the base", the base was not endanger of going over to Obama in the first place.

McCain needs to win independents and more conservative Democrats in key states. This is not an election about total votes.

For instance, I believe McCain will now lose FL. In order to win FL., McCain needed to pick up a healthy percentage of the Jewish vote down there. I don't see that happening now with Palin on the ticket and it doesn't matter if the rumors are false. The Democrats were able to scare a significant proportion of the elderly. Unless the loss of this vote can be offset by the a rather large increase in the Evangelical vote, something I don't see happening, then FL. will go Democratic. Ohio is also now leaning Democratic. McCain cannot win if he looses those two states.

re: #201 reno911

I'm watching Bernie Sanders on C-Span.

Fuck, I agree with him.

Is he talking about how lovely Vermont is this time of year?

By the way, I'm not going to read the articles. What's the point? They can say nothing bad about McCain or Palin that makes them as bad as, or worse than, Obama. It is too late to change candidates. This is our choice. We do not need doubt or discouragement now. We need to get McCain/Palin in office and go from there.

I am 100% behind this ticket. Lately I've been stopping by houses that have McCain/Palin signs and introducing myself. It's a great way to break the ice and meet people who share my views.

re: #177 tigger2005

Charles, I agree, I don't vote for the party, I vote for the best people. However, I really don't see what room there is for debate in this election. The Democrats are so far gone I don't know when we can ever again to expect them to choose an acceptable candidate. Obama simply must not become President. It is unthinkable. It is not open for consideration. McCain has his faults, and perhaps Palin has her faults (personally I think it's far too early to judge her), but there is no question that they are the better choice. The ONLY choice, the ONLY option, at this point. What are we supposed to do, vainly waste our vote on a third candidate and let Obama into the White House to implement his devastating Socialist agenda? No thanks. If Carter did decades worth of damage to this country in just 4 years, Obama will do terminal damage.

re: #198 Creeping Eruption

"LGF and the slime that comprise their commentariat . . . ." LOL!

Jealous.

re: #194 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No offense, but the opinion of a Repulican pollster on Newsmax doesn't exactly fill me with unshakeable confidence.

It's her track record that's impressive.

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

Jealous.

Something along those lines

re: #208 Florida Lady

Wow, even the MSLSD dumba**** have a clue about this!

Sorry lizards, I copied the link after I voted! You can still vote if you like.
Start at the main page at [Link: www.msn.com...]

Are you ok?
I've been slimed...

re: #214 MJ

While she certainly fired up "the base", the base was not endanger of going over to Obama in the first place.

Mccain was in danger of having the base sit out

re: #214 MJ

McCain will not lose Florida. You can take that to the bank.

re: #192 Charles

hmm...well, I'm seeing it as "Mein Kamph"...[sic in more ways than one]...as I laugh...no doubt just another semi-literate loon...

re: #215 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Is he talking about how lovely Vermont is this time of year?

Must be waxing poetically about maple syrup.

re: #196 Ward Cleaver

72% voting "Get rid of her".

Surprise, susrprise, surprise.

re: #31 Meremortal

There is a kernel of truth here. We have a choice between inexperience in the VP office, or inexperience in the Oval office. Choose well.

True. Although I'm wondering why more focus is not being put on Sarah's actual proven stats as the current Governor of Alaska:

At present, Sarah Palin has an 80%+ public approval rating while she's the executive in charge of a multi-billion-dollar government organization with over 20,000 employees. She recently significantly increased the normal profit-sharing activity for all Alaska residents (a $700 million increase in the normal annual Permanent Fund Dividend), when she could have kept that money in State coffers. She knows how that increase of cash flow around the state has an amplifier-effect (I forget what the ratio is, somewhere between 2 and 3 to one?) and she's repeatedly demonstrated her determination and ability to do what's right for the average citizen.

Governor Palin recently engineered, negotiated and finalized a $40 billion pipeline construction project -- one of the largest ever -- designed to transport natural gas from Alaska all the way to the 'Lower 48.' She has real accomplishments under her belt, and those accomplishments didn't come from her being a cutesy, unprepared 'hick from the sticks'.

Evidently she pissed off a few State Legislators, not long after she took office, by telling them -- as a group -- that it appeared as if they needed "some adult supervision."

We'll see how it pans out.
.

re: #214 MJ

It is pathetic that after the racist hissy fit rep Hastings had, Jews in Fla would even consider voting Dem.

re: #192 Charles

Reading Little Green Footballs is like reading Mein Kampf.

Looks like a couple of pissed-off former commentors.

re: #214 MJ

I personally believe Palin was a mistake to add to the ticket.

While she certainly fired up "the base", the base was not endanger of going over to Obama in the first place.

McCain needs to win independents and more conservative Democrats in key states. This is not an election about total votes.

For instance, I believe McCain will now lose FL. In order to win FL., McCain needed to pick up a healthy percentage of the Jewish vote down there. I don't see that happening now with Palin on the ticket and it doesn't matter if the rumors are false. The Democrats were able to scare a significant proportion of the elderly. Unless the loss of this vote can be offset by the a rather large increase in the Evangelical vote, something I don't see happening, then FL. will go Democratic. Ohio is also now leaning Democratic. McCain cannot win if he looses those two states.

A large percentage of the "base" was not going to vote.
How do I know that? Sample of one.

re: #175 Perplexed

Who signed up the kid? ACORN?

The lady wasn't sure, since her son apparently hadn't paid it that much attention either, it was simply some group asking passers-by if they were registered to vote yet, and if they weren't, going, "Well, come over here and sign up...." :-/

When she told him that age 15 isn't a legal age to vote, he was like, "No, I am eligible to vote! They've TOLD me I am!" and refused to accept the notion he might NOT be until she sat him down and told him the details of the law...

re: #183 Catttt

I love Sarah Palin. She has proven herself already. Just because she isn't a fricking elitist prick from a rich family, the talking heads are flying off the handle. They make me want to puke.

I have a lot in common with Sarah Palin, and I KNOW Sarah Palins. She is just what DC needs - someone with common sense instead of being like our current lot - haughty, spoon-fed, my s**t doesn't stink, pay to play, get along to go along, money talks and bulls**t wallks Congress/DC crapartists who are in power. F**k 'em all. We need 400 Sarah Palins! Out with the garbage!

That's what I like to hear!

re: #214 MJ

I personally believe Palin was a mistake to add to the ticket.

While she certainly fired up "the base", the base was not endanger of going over to Obama in the first place.

McCain needs to win independents and more conservative Democrats in key states. This is not an election about total votes.

For instance, I believe McCain will now lose FL. In order to win FL., McCain needed to pick up a healthy percentage of the Jewish vote down there. I don't see that happening now with Palin on the ticket and it doesn't matter if the rumors are false. The Democrats were able to scare a significant proportion of the elderly. Unless the loss of this vote can be offset by the a rather large increase in the Evangelical vote, something I don't see happening, then FL. will go Democratic. Ohio is also now leaning Democratic. McCain cannot win if he looses those two states.

No way will McCain lose Florida. They just had 60,000 people turn out for a Palin appearance. people were fired up. She wears an Israeli pin and has an Israeli flag in her office. And you think Still Jews won't vote for her over "I'll-side with the Muslims over white people" Obama?

If Bernie Sanders is saying that all the moonbats in Vermont are moving to Canada, them I'm supporing him 100%.

re: #222 anotherindyfilmguy

Are you ok?
I've been slimed...

I feel so funky.

re: #185 DistantThunder
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Your quoted article is in concert with my feeling that I could handle having a president I don't agree with, but I cannot abide a weakling as the leader of the free world.

re: #111 DeafDog

This is from a few threads back, but gor what it's worth, I sent Greenling an e-mail asking where they get their funding and got a reply back from Orson Aguilar, Incoming Executive Director, stating the following:

Greenlining obtains its revenues from the following sources:

Rental Income (we owe a building)

Interest Income (we have a small endowment that earns interest)

Legal Fees (we are active at the California Public Utilities Commission and are awarded fees when our intervention is successful)

Private Foundations (namely The California Endowment, The San Francisco Foundation, California Wellness Foundation)

Annual Economic Summit (individuals purchase tickets and some corporations purchase tables)

Corporate Foundations (Bank of America, WAMU, Wells Fargo, HSBC, Citi, Merrill Lynch, Union Bank)

Extortion.

re: #215 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No. He's talking about the bailout.

Jeff Sessions is talking now, he agrees with Sanders too.

Wow.

re: #136 zombie

their felling = their feeling

PIMF

I believe your typo is more correct than you can imagine. Their "cred" sure is not on the up-swing after this partisan sniping.

re: #192 Charles

Reading Little Green Footballs is like reading Mein Kampf.

WTF?!?!?

Typical...!

re: #238 Spirit93

RICO...

re: #224 Florida Lady

McCain will not lose Florida. You can take that to the bank.

The way the economy is, that might not be such a good idea.

re: #230 Honorary Yooper

Looks like a couple of pissed-off former commentors.

LGF and the slime that comprise their commentariat have long since forced out people that (much like me) don't toe the freeper worldview long ago.

WTF?

Who was that asshole that got the stick awhile back, bragging about his zillions of comments at Freep?

LOL my loan is with Countrywide. Before I refinanced, it was with BoA (who I bank with). Looks like I'll be back to getting my mortgage statement from BoA soon.

re: #162 taxfreekiller

Bank of America

Just bought Countrywidehomefraud.

They did the nation wide "me-trick-you" bank ID card for all the illegals,
who then went to country wide and got a no paper trail mortgage loan.

Now those loans are on Bank of Americas books,

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO NEED THE MOST OF THIS BAIL OUT
THEY HAVE LOTS OF DEMOCRATS ON THE BOARD, THE ONES FROM
FLEET/BOSTON MORTGAGE LOAN ARE ALL KENNEDY AND KERRY BUDS
AND HUGE DEMOCRATIC ELECTION MONEY WHORES...

FOLLOW THE LOANS, THAT IS WHERE THEY WANT TO HIDE YOUR MONEY

Your quoted article is in concert with my feeling that I could handle having a president I don't agree with, but I cannot abide a weakling as the leader of the free world.

With BHO you get both. And the people who will surround him.

Obama
Biden
San Fran Nan

I had no idea you register online to vote.
Is this for real?

re: #242 anotherindyfilmguy

RICO...

SUAVE

re: #192 Charles

Reading Little Green Footballs is like reading Mein Kampf.

This comment is in response to YouTube deleting the Pat Condell video:

It's like reading Mein Kamph, you might get some insight on how insane some people are, but in the process you lose part of your soul.

Under sharia, one loses ones head.

re: #198 Creeping Eruption

"LGF and the slime that comprise their commentariat . . . ." LOL!

*
"I'm the slime oozing from your Internet set."

with apologies to Zappa.

re: #248 Occasional Reader

SUAVE

Ah, Ricardo. Latin America's answer to Vanilla Ice.

I'm staying agnostic on Palin until I've seen how she does in the VP debate against Biden.

As far as her conservative detractors go, I think part of the issue is that the energy generated by her RNC speech left people wanting to believe that the first-ever Republican nominee to a Presidential ticket was some kind of brilliant combination of the Bionic Woman, Laura Ingalls, and Dagny Taggart (from Atlas Shrugged). A woman who would effortlessly knock detractors on their ass without breaking a sweat (or a nail).

The reality is that she's intelligent, but not formidably so; maybe a quick study, but not lightning fast; she can deliver a prepared speech well, but is unremarkable at extemporaneous responses. Of course, you could say all of this about Obama, but since certain conservatives were hoping that Palin would be a superheroine, naturally it's a letdown to learn that in some ways, she's just an average politician.

re: #243 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How about taking it to the mattresses? Oh wait... wrong analogy... why is there a little red dot moving around the room?

re: #125 zombie

The criticism from those two writers about Palin seems to be their felling that she's not very well-versed in the minutiae of economic policy and foreign policy.

While that may be true to some extent, it does not bother me at all. Because what matters is not how many details you know about this or that subject, but whether you're looking at it the right way in the first place.

Bill Clinton knew details. EU diplomats know details. Even Vladimir Lenin knew details. But they had the wrong motives.

I'd rather have a newcomer with a coherent moral vision than a "policy wonk" who wants to either glide us into socialism or toward bureaucratic corruption.

Right on brother!...err, I mean sister!...zombie!

re: #236 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I feel so funky.

See? That very line was in Mein Kampf.

QED.

re: #236 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I feel so funky.

We came, we saw, we kicked its ass!

re: #251 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ah, Ricardo. Latin America's answer to Vanilla Ice.

It was "Gerardo", but you get an upding anyway.

Senate Bailout Keeps Growing

With each permutation, the bill has steadily grown in size. Treasury’s initial plan was about three pages long. The House version, which failed, stretched to 110. The Senate substitute now runs over 450 pages. And tucked away in the tax provisions is a landmark health care provision demanding that insurance companies provide coverage for mental health treatment—such as hospitalization—on parity with physical illnesses.

[Link: www.politico.com...]