That's their problem

wow, read the whole Parker piece, I think a lot of people might agree at least in part

Then they need to just come out and say they will support Obama and stop writing as if they really care if a republican gets in office.

And not all conservatives are enthusiastic about McCain.
And not all liberals are enthusiastic about Obama.
And not all liberals are enthusiastic about Biden.

This is a non-story, and part of the orchastrated "Was Palin vetted enough? Is this a mistake?" angle pushed by Obama's people.

Let's not let them choose the items to be debated.

Well, whatever the truth in these two articles, we'll see for ourselves on Thursday night.

These two don't sound very conservative in these columns. Kathleen sounds almost exactly like the liberals that are fretting about the Biden liability when talking about possibly dumping her from the ticket.

Kathleen Parker is an American syndicated columnist. Her columns frequently focus on family, sex roles, and race.

It doesn't appear that her forte is political commentary

re: #4 Silhouette

And not all conservatives are enthusiastic about McCain

I wonder how many here voted McCain in the primaries? I did not...

re: #4 Silhouette

I know plenty of Dems who are downright peed off about their ticket.
I'll take mine over theirs any day.
So will a lot of Dems.

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

re: #2 JeremiahRight

wow, read the whole Parker piece, I think a lot of people might agree at least in part

Perhaps, but I'm not one of them. Gov. Palin is smart enough to get advice from experts on anything she doesn't know herself, and she has executive experience, something even Sen. McCain doesn't have.

Leadership is what counts.

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever was liked by 100% of the people.

Right after her speech at the convention I was excoriated here for having the temerity to suggest the very thing. I have not changed my mind. She may help McCain win the election, but I was under the impression that McCain was not just about winning - he is Mr. "Country first." I do not think her nomination puts the country first. Regardless, we are stuck with her now and had better make the best of it. I'll sit down now and take my licks.

re: #8 JeremiahRight

I wonder how many here voted McCain in the primaries? I did not...

I didnt either: what we are doing is working together to stop a worse case scenario (Obama) from happening to our country. You BET I will vote for the patriot over this communist/socialist/moonbat Obama. Was McCain my top choice? No he sure wasnt, but I will back him and Palin all the way. We can whine about the other issues AFTER the 4th.

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

And if Obama were white.......

Rod Dreher jumped ship a while ago, IMHO.

The election is McCain vs. 0bama.

re: #15 paint-right

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

Um, his experience as a community organizer?
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re: #10 Charles

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

Ya non-partisan hack, ya.
//

re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is
this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever
was liked by 100% of the people.

Saddam Hussein was. He had the poll numbers to prove it!

With the terrible beating Gov Palin has taken in the MSM, it is really disappointing to see conservative writers and pudits jump on the band wagon. At a time when the MSM is forcing Obama and his terrorist/ thug friends at us, and covering up for every corrupt Democrat out there, I wish they would not add to the bashing. These folks on the right are trying to stand up for American, and I'd like to see at least one side give them a chance and support these brave people.

Kathleen Parker says she's being barraged with hate mail for that column:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

The fierce reaction to my column has been both bracing and enlightening. After 20 years of column writing, I’m familiar with angry mail. But the past few days have produced responses of a different order. Not just angry, but vicious and threatening.

Some of my usual readers feel betrayed because I previously have written favorably of Palin. By changing my mind and saying so, I am viewed as a traitor to the Republican party — not a “true” conservative.

Obviously, I’m not employed by the GOP. If I were, they’re seriously in arrears. But what is a true conservative? One who doesn’t think or question and who marches in lockstep with The Party?

The emotional pitch of many comments suggests an overinvestment in Palin as “one of us.”

Okay, here comes Palin on Hannity's show...

re: #10 Charles

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

Same here. Vote for those who I feel are best qualified and suited to do the job at hand.

My family tries to say I am a Republican and I have to CONSTANTLY disabuse them that I am only a Conservative. If there were ever a politician who just happened to have a D after their name that I had a majority agreement with their positions, I would be voting for them.

I have been irritated by the way Palin tends to duck questions with generic campaign boilerplate instead of taking them head-on. It's a bad habit. She CAN answer personal questions personally, but she only does it after being pressured, and that plays clean into the hands of the current Fix & Destroy strategy of making her out to be an idiot from the sticks.

I don't want to hear about John McCain the maverick as interpreted by Sarah Palin, I want to hear about Sarah Palin. Aggressively. She needs to show off that college education a little bit.

Did she spend 5 years working with a domestic terrorist?

Did she become a millionaire Harvard Law School graduate but still want to change America, at least the few pieces of it she can see far off in the distance from the fourth story of her multi-million dollar home?

Does she fret about the price of arugula or ballet lessons?

Does she give speeches that sound like the second half of "Flowers for Algernon" when her teleprompter goes on the fritz?

Did she try to save the bailout bill by making a bunch of telephone calls, without actually making the telephone calls?

Does she have fleets of glassy-eyed school children touring the country singing paeans to her presumed future glory?

No?

Then we're already starting in positive territory.

#10 Charles.
What makes the best people best?

re: #21 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Saddam Hussein was. He had the poll numbers to prove it!

So was Fidel Castro. Oh, wait, you mean democratically elected leaders. Then Saddam doesn't fit the bill either.

re: #15 paint-right

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

What qualifies ZerObama to be Vice-President?

NObama!
NoBiden!

There is a kernel of truth here. We have a choice between inexperience in the VP office, or inexperience in the Oval office. Choose well.

re: #23 Charles

Kathleen Parker says she's being barraged with hate mail for that column:

[Link:

re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever was liked by 100% of the people.

Palin in one interview (I think it was Hannity's) said "you leave a few feathers ruffled".
About one in five feathers, according to the last vote margin.

re: #15 paint-right

So what qualifies Obama to be President?

He was a "community organizer" in Chicago, that is his only real qualification.

The man is the single most unqualified candidate I have ever seen in my lifetime, as well as what I have studied about our history.

He helped organize a housing project, in which every house is no longer inhabitable, in fact, they have been condemned.

That is what America will look much like if he is elected.

I think selecting Palin was a brilliant move by McCain - in order to get elected. Politically - she is tremendously refreshing. There may be others deemed more qualified - Romney, Rudy - but neither of them brings excitement and change.

Crap. I said the "C" word.

re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are those in Alaska who don't and didn't like Palin. Why is this being reported as news? No politician (or religious figure) ever was liked by 100% of the people.

That's not true...I heard that Saddam Hussein got 100% of the vote. :)

I'm not enthusiastic about politicians in general.

Palin on Hannity now.

Charles

I like to hear all sides of the debate, myself. I don't vote for parties, I vote for the best people.

Palin's not the best person for President. Not even close. But she is acceptable for a VP when you consider the alternative. J-Mac is not going to die anytime soon, but if something does happen, she will surround herself with a competent staff, and probably do like BHO....get the grizzled old veteran as VP to look over her shoulder.

I fear the massive growth of gov't reach under a Obama-Pelosi rule. Just look at who he has been trained under.

McCain and Palin are the two best names on my ballot. That's all I need.

As i stated on a previous thread, the US Constitution states the following:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

What part of that disqualifies Ms. Palin? or Obama for that matter?

This is about ideology. Do you want a Marxist as POTUS?
I don't, personally.

re: #27 Diamond Bullet

Did she spend 5 years working with a domestic terrorist?

Did she become a millionaire Harvard Law School graduate but still want to change America, at least the few pieces of it she can see far off in the distance from the fourth story of her multi-million dollar home?

Does she fret about the price of arugula or ballet lessons?

Does she give speeches that sound like the second half of "Flowers for Algernon" when her teleprompter goes on the fritz?

Did she try to save the bailout bill by making a bunch of telephone calls, without actually making the telephone calls?

Does she have fleets of glassy-eyed school children touring the country singing paeans to her presumed future glory?

No?

Then we're already starting in positive territory.

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

Not all conservatives are enthusiastic about Sarah Palin.

There are conservatives who feel the country deserves to be punished by an Obama presidency - the disastrous Carter years gave us Reagan, see? - but fail to see that we are still living with the unfortunate long-term consequences of the "Carter punishment".

Kathleen Parker writes for Jewish World Review, an online site that's generally conservative and hosts lots of conservative writers. She's making a point that's not totally off base. I'll have to watch the debate, and with some seasoning she may make a great prez, but I can't help wondering if McCain thought it was just a cool thing to do. As for voting, I'm with Charles with the exception that I'll never vote for another Dem for prez or Congress as long as the party is the party of PC liberalness, which means probably the rest of my life. I may not vote GOP, but I ain't voting Donkey.

Dreher came down with a raging case of BDS some time back, so I've given up on him.

The fierce reaction to my column has been both bracing and enlightening. After 20 years of column writing, I’m familiar with angry mail. But the past few days have produced responses of a different order. Not just angry, but vicious and threatening

90% of Big Media, hollywood, etc are doing everything they can to destroy this woman. Some people may have no tolerance for a conservative giving them assistance.

Obama - $700 BILLION is necessary but not sufficient!

Better hide your wallet.

re: #47 galloping granny

Obama - $700 BILLION is necessary but not sufficient!

Better hide your wallet.

It's just the first step of his massive socialist wealth distribution scheme...

re: #44 SFGoth

I may not vote GOP, but I ain't voting Donkey.

Then that'll be one less vote to offset the Dems.

re: #41 rawmuse

Well my songwriting friend, as you know, the words you quoted above were written before the age of American Political Royalty. That APR is culled from Harvard, Yale or Princeton graduates with law degrees and often large family wealth. Which is why most politicians today say things like "I was the son of a millworker" etc.

I wouldn't fault any woman for questioning Palin. That's every person's prerogative—to think for themselves and make an INDIVIDUAL decision. But when you look at the other side and how Biden and Obama are both lacking so many areas (ethics....substance...), just how can we negate Palin?

re: #47 galloping granny

GG, whenever a politician opens its mouth to say anything about money I instinctively check for my wallet.

re: #47 galloping granny

Obama - $700 BILLION is necessary but not sufficient!

Better hide your wallet.

Yeah, I love this stuff. Somehow, we know it's gonna cost $700 Billion, but credit markets are frozen because we can't value the assets...apparently the assets are worth $700 Billion by fiat.....(and no car jokes please) .....I'm not sure I understand that ;-P

How's she doing on Palin?

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

re: #54 TheMatrix31

How's she doing on Palin?

Excuse me, on Hannity.

Not everyone agrees on everything 100%, even those with like minds. If we did, we'd all be drinking from the same pitcher of Kool-Aid. An Obama presidency scares me, based on his past "associations". McCain and Palin present themselves as intelligent Americans who care about our country and have a set of values that most of us conservatives agree on... Good enough for me!

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

Not at all. Both are laudable goals. But I'm leery of people who enjoy all the best that America has to offer, and come away thinking it sucks. Like Warren Buffett's old adage, if you dropped Obama into, say, the African slum his half-brother occupies, we'd never have heard of him. America made Obama, not the other way around. I've heard him grudgingly admit that maybe...once. Self-reflection does not appear to be the One's strong suit.

re: #8 JeremiahRight

I wonder how many here voted McCain in the primaries? I did not...

McCain is obviously not a conservative, and to me, it seems as if he threw the party a bone, so to speak, by choosing Palin. Yes, she is inexperienced, but so is Obama.

Will McCain turn our country into a Marxist Utopia?
Probably not.

If McCain is not around, will Palin turn our country into a Marxist Utopia?
Probably not.

If Obama is elected, will he try to turn our country into a Marxist utopia?
More likely than not.

So.... we once again we are left to vote for the lesser of all evils.

re: #13 Creeping Eruption

Right after her speech at the convention I was excoriated here for having the temerity to suggest the very thing. I have not changed my mind. She may help McCain win the election, but I was under the impression that McCain was not just about winning - he is Mr. "Country first." I do not think her nomination puts the country first. Regardless, we are stuck with her now and had better make the best of it. I'll sit down now and take my licks.

The more I research the financial crisis (without letting the resurgent threat of Russia and the escalating problem of Iran fade from my radar) the more it becomes apparent that the good of the country is John McCain. Putting the country first means electing John McCain. It's as simple as that. Now with George Soros creeping out of the shadows to manipulate the financial crisis to his advantage, with the ursine growls in Eastern Europe, with the Marxist shenanigans in the Caribbean and the shrill laughter of the madman in Persia, this is no time to undermine the cause of the country. If McCain doesn't get elected this fall, then we're going to see an administration that makes Carter look like Reagan and Clinton look like Mother Teresa. This is no time to falter.

Personally, I'd rather see a President Palin than a President Obama or a President Biden.

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

No of course not. But going to an Ivy League instead of a state college is not a qualification for POTUS either. An Ivy League education is no guarantee these days that you got one speck better an education - or even as good an education - as your state college attending peers.

from an article linked on Drudge:

Meeting Tuesday with the editorial board of The Des Moines Register, McCain was asked why he picked the Alaska governor, someone "who doesn't have a lot of experience."

"Thank you, but I disagree with your fundamental principle that she doesn't have the experience," McCain replied before citing Palin's work as a PTA member, city council member, mayor and governor. "You and I just have a fundamental disagreement, and I am so happy the American people seem to be siding with me."

When it was suggested that Palin's lack of experience worried voters, McCain turned sarcastic.

"Really? I haven't detected that in the polls, I haven't detected that among the base," he said. "If there's a Georgetown cocktail party person who, quote, calls himself a conservative who doesn't like her, good luck. I don't dismiss him. I think the American people have overwhelmingly shown their approval."

the whole thing is here

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

Well then, this midwesterner will just have to agree to disagree with a fellow midwesterner.

re: #49 solomonpanting

Then that'll be one less vote to offset the Dems.

Won't matter a bit in California. Frankly, I was definitely voting Libertarian until Bob Barr won the nom. Ugh. Remember that stupid trick of his making a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction (or even plea bargain) a basis for denying a handgun? That was the same stunt some stupid Congressman from Virginny pulled on Title IX that has forced colleges to dump men's programs wholesale when not even half the female students want to participate in sports. Yuck. What a mess.

re: #58 Diamond Bullet

I Couldn't agree with your statement more.

re: #31 Meremortal

There is a kernel of truth here. We have a choice between inexperience in the VP office, or inexperience in the Oval office. Choose well.

?
We have a choice:
Inexperience in POTUS/VP or Experience in POTUS/VP...
Palin has more executive experience than both of the Dems on the ticket...

re: #65 SFGoth

Won't matter a bit in California. Frankly, I was definitely voting Libertarian until Bob Barr won the nom. Ugh. Remember that stupid trick of his making a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction (or even plea bargain) a basis for denying a handgun? That was the same stunt some stupid Congressman from Virginny pulled on Title IX that has forced colleges to dump men's programs wholesale when not even half the female students want to participate in sports. Yuck. What a mess.

Barr is the Republican version of a partisan hack.

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Excuse me, on Hannity.

She's doing grrrrrrrreat!

Just curious. Where are the liberal pundits decrying Obama's unsuitability to be president? Or his poor choice is selecting Biden as his running mate? I haven't seen any, but then I read the conservative blogs.

Did the Republican "dissenters" publicly profess their concern about Dan Quayle? I ask that seriously because I wasn't paying close attention to American politics at that time. I have to wonder what they are thinking. Do they think that a change to the ticket at this time would help McCain's chances? Do they think that 8 years of Obama won't do irreparable damage to the country?

Democrats with a voice in the national media seem to be solidly behind Obama, regardless of what private concerns they may have about him.

(Hannity asking Palin about Ifill right now.)

We don't seem to have that luxury on our side.

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Excuse me, on Hannity.

She sounds fantastic - energized, well informed, strong vocally, her responses are crisp and well organized, and she's clearly been primed to go big and broad on offense :)

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

Ffft! You hicks would think that!
/going to the raquet club

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

With wanting to be a millionaire? No.

An Ivy-League school? Yes, a heck of a lot in this Midwesterner's opinion. They are bastions of snobbery.

Agreed. I've had the misfortune to spend time around such people. Most of them are insufferable twits with delusions of superiority. Texans especially love taking them to the cleaners in business deals.

[Present company excepted, of course, if any are here. There are exceptions to all generalizations]

I think Parker is getting the hate mail because many feel that she is just "piling on" Palin along with the rest of the MSM. Does she have the right to criticise? Of course. Unfortunately, there has been almost zero examination of BO by the MSM. I think this is conservative frustration at the complete inequity of coverage of the candidates.

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Excuse me, on Hannity.

Go to WABC AM website, get the streaming audio.

re: #46 Dave the.....

90% of Big Media, hollywood, etc are doing everything they can to destroy this woman. Some people may have no tolerance for a conservative giving them assistance.

Palin seems to be doing enough to destroy herself. The woman is an absolute trainwreck. I can't really fault her for it--she didn't ask to be chosen, her pick was a calculated political decision designed to get votes rather than find the best VP, and it's unreasonable to expect her to turn down such a mind-blowing, possible once in a lifetime offer. But she's turned out to be a net negative for Senator McCain, and has given fodder to those who wonder if he still has the judgment, faculties, and temperament necessary for the office.

Palin's answer on Ifill: You know I'm not going to let it be a concern.

She goes on to talk about the ticket being in an underdog position - saying it's motivating to her to hear Gwen's comments on her book, saying she is motivated to try "that much harder".

re: #67 anotherindyfilmguy

?
We have a choice:
Inexperience in POTUS/VP or Experience in POTUS/VP...
Palin has more executive experience than both of the Dems on the ticket...

As was said during the 1988 campaign, which would you rather wish for? That your presidential pick lives through his term, or dies in office?

Oh and by the way - Biden's middle name is "Robinette". : )

Speaking Barry's better half (sic)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp

re: #62 galloping granny

No of course not. But going to an Ivy League instead of a state college is not a qualification for POTUS either. An Ivy League education is no guarantee these days that you got one speck better an education - or even as good an education - as your state college attending peers.

I was not bashing state schools - went to one myself and I am doing just fine. I was questioning whether attendance at an ivy-league school is per se a negative thing. I would argue not. Had I had the grades I would have gone to Harvard in a heart beat, snobs or no..

She's hosting a fundraiser next door to my work at 5:30pm today. Our building managers just warned us of a protest starting at 4:30pm that will disrupt traffic. So, California Democrats are protesting, what, her right to speak? Her right to campaign and raise money? And in doing so they plan on disrupting traffic for thousands of Angelenos? Wtf?

So many questions...

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

Just question: Is there something inherently wrong with going to an ivy-league school, or aspiring to be a millionaire?

If the first teaches you to look down your nose on all those who did not ahve that opportunity, and if the second only applies to you and your friends, but everybody else mustn't even think of aspiring to become one - then yes, there's something inherently wrong: in that person with such attitudes.

Take a bow, B0!

No way am I basing an assessment on a couple of ridiculous gotcha interviews conducted by a biased media.Governor Palin has my respect for being able to contain herself and not telling Couric or Gibson to pound sand.Meanwhile, the very thought of the Obama and his horde occupying the WH makes my blood boil.

Just heard Palin's interview on Hannity.

I love this woman.

My wife is pissed.

I heard her on Hugh Hewitt yesterday. What a refreshing politician! From what I heard she would be a much better candidate than either barry or joe! She needs to be on more radio shows.

Anyone here not seen this yet?
Midpoint Politics
It's interesting.

...Minutes before the vote on this unprecedented turn of events, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke to the assembled multitude. She got to what, to her, is the heart of the matter in her second sentence.

The requested sum "is a number that is staggering," she began, "but tells us only the costs of the Bush administration's failed economic policies - policies built on budgetary recklessness, on an anything-goes mentality, with no regulation, no supervision, and no discipline in the system."

With the entire American economy said to hang in the balance, Pelosi's No. 1 concern was politics.

More shamefully still, Pelosi used a well-known technique that Adolf Hitler called "the Big Lie" in an attempt to shift blame for the crisis. The technique stems from the fact that people cannot believe people will tell colossal lies.

But Pelosi did. ....

For Nancy Pelosi, politics came first

re: #80 capitalist piglet

Oh and by the way - Biden's middle name is "Robinette". : )

Still not as good as my former senator, Chuck Robb: Charles Spittle Robb.

Did his parents want him to get beaten up as a kid?

Everything depends on tomorrow's debate.

re: #80 capitalist piglet

Oh and by the way - Biden's middle name is "Robinette". : )

? I know a guy named Joe Robinette

One of the reasons I like Gov. Palin is because she doesn't already have all the answers. I want someone in the Executive Branch who doesn't know the answer to the question before you finish asking it.

Are we going to know exactly, precisely who added what to the bailout plan?

Who is responsible for the pork? Can we know?

re: #67 anotherindyfilmguy

?
We have a choice:
Inexperience in POTUS/VP or Experience in POTUS/VP...
Palin has more executive experience than both of the Dems on the ticket...

Agreed, Palin has more executive experience than both Dems. She is still relatively inexperienced compared to most candidates for national office. (I support her, BTW.) Joe and O are woefully inexperienced in this area.

Nothing wrong with going to an upscale school or being rich.

What is wrong in that sentence above was that he succeeded in the American system, and now wants to "change" the system that allowed him to succeed.

He wants to break what clearly was working.

Whether she is the best candidate or not is a question that has not been fairly presented because she has been destroyed by the propogandists who are not particularly interested in her doing well.

If she was judged by the standards of her counterpart, Biden, the entire dynamic would be different.

Is she a little back on her heels? Considering what has been done to her she really is not doing to badly.

But, Thursday will tell the story. She will need to make her case. But for those RINO's who object, I could care less because they do not speak for me and many others who consider ourselves to be conservative.

For my part, I think she will do great and there is empiracle data to support my confidence - she has a solid record and has proven to be a good debater. Go Governor!

Charles,

I was trying to scroll over one of the top links, about 10 down from the top, when I noticed that the Paragon ad superimposes itself over the top of the text from the article - partial obscuring it so that the excerpts can't be read. Are you aware of this?

If so nevermind - and thanks for all you do.

DT

re: #76 Gang of One

Go to WABC AM website, get the streaming audio.

Thanks for the link, I'm in class though.

re: #79 Ward Cleaver

As was said during the 1988 campaign, which would you rather wish for? That your presidential pick lives through his term, or dies in office?

Doesn't corrolate.
Palin is being piled on by the MSM in a totally blatant way. If the same treatment was given to either Obamassieh or Biden they'd never have gotten as far as they did. There's nothing in my post about McCain making not getting through his terms or not. However, as far as executive experience goes she has both of the dems beat. McCain even has the dems beat in that regard when you add in his Military command time.

re: #97 TheMatrix31

Then pay attention!

re: #94 Silhouette

Nothing wrong with going to an upscale school or being rich.

What is wrong in that sentence above was that he succeeded in the American system, and now wants to "change" the system that allowed him to succeed.

He wants to break what clearly was working.

If it allowed Obama to get to where he is, maybe the system isn't working!

The new narrative should be that the Democrat ticket is upside-down.