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Video | Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:00:58 pm PDT

A pretty clever and well done response to that “I’m Voting Republican” video you might have seen on left-leaning blogs.

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1 spidly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:03:08pm

just got this from my sister.

"let the next generation worry about the Hitlers of our time"

2 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:05:09pm

Says it all.

3 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:05:38pm

I'm voting democrat because.. all my friends are really mad at Bush.

4 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:05:41pm
...because I believe a woman can do anything. Except be our Presidential nominee.

Ouch.

5 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:05:59pm

cant watch it, ah well.

I'm voting republican because I'm a mean, gun toting racist religionist.

/Attn koz folks. the above sentence is written with a sarcastic face. I am making fun of the people who believe that all conservatives are racist, religionist, homophobic, and slightly demented. I'm really voting republican because I believe that the US should remain a sovereign nation, not be part of a world court system.

6 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:06:03pm

Something's weird with the comment boxes -- text is a lot closer to the top now...

7 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:07:20pm

I needed a sarch tag / delay

8 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:07:27pm

good night all
its been a hell of a day at sea.

9 Charles  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:07:31pm

re: #6 Fat Jolly Penguin

Something's weird with the comment boxes -- text is a lot closer to the top now...

Reload.

10 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:07:44pm

Professor Cesar Ortega has a future at the University of Colorado.

11 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:07:44pm

This is great!

12 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:08:34pm

re: #9 Charles

Reload.

Ah! 'Tis fixed.

13 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:08:34pm

I wish I could laugh at it, but I am finding it to be too real.

14 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:08:36pm

re: #11 galloping granny
Haha it is, these are many of the excuses i've heard.

15 Attaboid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:08:55pm

I like it alot!

16 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:02pm

A while back, when the "I'm voting Republican" video came out, DesertSage posted an hilarious list of "I'm voting Democrat" points, IIRC.

17 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:03pm

The Democratic Worldview in under four minutes.
Brilliant!

18 CynicalConservative  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:08pm

Stranger than fiction

19 pat  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:37pm

Very good

20 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:37pm

Barak will let me eat urugula , freeze in the winter in my flinstone car.

21 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:09:44pm

How come no one said they are voting democrat 'cause they'll get FREE STUFF?
I'd say it's an uninformed group.

22 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:10:03pm

I'm voting Democrat because terrorists and Marxists are good mentors to have!

/"Whores of the Caliphate".

23 debutaunt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:10:29pm

The ballet dancer nailed it.

24 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:10:41pm

The open was shot in front of Starbucks. hahaha And handing the 5 year old condoms to take to school was hilarious.

25 Just sayin...  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:10:56pm

I'm voting Democrat because I believe in change. Change is good, right? And we need to change things. Lots of things. Specifically what? That's what I'd like to change.

26 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:11:38pm
I'm voting Democrat because -- well, you wouldn't understand. It's an elitist thing.

The only thing that could have made that line better is if he was holding a bunch of arugula.

27 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:11:42pm

re: #21 IslandLibertarian

How come no one said they are voting democrat 'cause they'll get FREE STUFF?
I'd say it's an uninformed group.


One guy did say he's happy to give his money to the government so that others could stay home and do nothing.

28 zenren  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:11:44pm

Thanks Charles for the much needed levity!

29 Gang of One  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:11:46pm

I'm voting Democrat because Karl Rove is making me do it.

30 daledog  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:12:18pm

I'm voting Democrat because I want to fit in with my co-workers. You see, they have college degrees and I don't. They must be smarter than me. I like to fit in.

31 J.D.  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:12:19pm

Another online register to vote site.

When did this start?

32 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:12:39pm

re: #14 willowone

Haha it is, these are many of the excuses i've heard.

Yes, they certainly are, aren't they? I did send a link to the Obamatest to my looney sister a few days back. She is still speaking to me. So, we'll see. Maybe I'll send her the video too.

33 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:12:46pm

Ask any Obamaton why they're voting for him and you'll get pap like this. Or simply blank stares and a rush to change the subject.

Nobody can identify an accomplishment.

34 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:13:23pm

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

Accomplishments aren't needed to became the Messiah.


/oh, wait.

35 PloniAlmoni  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:13:29pm

Hahaha, that was hilarious. Mike Bolton the computer programmer was an Office Space reference. Pretty awesome.

36 J.D.  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:13:38pm

re: #24 ciaospirit

The open was shot in front of Starbucks. hahaha And handing the 5 year old condoms to take to school was hilarious.

Apparently in Phoenix.

37 spidly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:14:03pm

Dow down 19 points today
will the hemorrhaging ever stop?
we need a bail out now

38 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:14:07pm

re: #27 solomonpanting

One guy did say he's happy to give his money to the government so that others could stay home and do nothing.

Close, but not first person, singular.

NObama!
NoDemocrat!

39 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:14:21pm

I'm voting Democrat cuz I like being a screwup with no accountability.

40 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:14:25pm

I'm voting Democrat so I can shamelessly lift YouTube code and put it on my own blog.

With all due credit to LGF, of course.

41 J.D.  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:14:29pm

I always just love the "he's cool" reason.

42 daledog  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:14:43pm

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

I have given up asking. I have not heard one logical answer yet.

43 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:15:28pm

re: #24 ciaospirit

The open was shot in front of Starbucks. hahaha And handing the 5 year old condoms to take to school was hilarious.

In front of a Drug Free School Zone sign, no less.

44 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:15:28pm

re: #32 galloping granny
She is still speaking to me..

Heck my sister is really thinking about voting McCain in last few weeks! I'm proud of her even if it took her seeing Hillary pumelled mercilously by Team Obama.
To have enough of Dem party.

45 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:15:36pm

re: #25 Just sayin...

I'm voting Democrat because I believe in change. Change is good, right? And we need to change things. Lots of things. Specifically what? That's what I'd like to change.

If Obama gets in the WH, we'll all be screaming for change.
[NSFW Language]

46 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:16:27pm

re: #38 IslandLibertarian

Tough crowd.

;)

47 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:18:23pm

I'm voting democrat, because if all us "typical white people" do, there like will be no more racisim, dude!

48 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:18:28pm

Arrr, voting Democrat because Obama will remove the anti-pirate task-force, TF-150 for "redeployment". Yo! Ho! Ho!

49 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:18:34pm

re: #44 willowone

She is still speaking to me..

Heck my sister is really thinking about voting McCain in last few weeks! I'm proud of her even if it took her seeing Hillary pumelled mercilously by Team Obama.
To have enough of Dem party.

Good deal! I was more than a little surprised at this sister, I have to tell you.

50 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:18:51pm

re: #47 sattv4u2
excellant

51 J.D.  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:19:16pm

re: #47 sattv4u2

I'm voting democrat, because if all us "typical white people" do, there like will be no more racisim, dude!

Kewl!

52 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:19:31pm

re: #24 ciaospirit

The open was shot in front of Starbucks. hahaha And handing the 5 year old condoms to take to school was hilarious sadly depressing.

*sigh* The "progressives" can't even let kids be kids.

They're a lot like the islamists in that regard.

53 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:19:48pm

I will never vote Democrat, nor Republican. I have always and will always vote for the individual that I believe has the qualifications needed to do the job. Voting for a letter makes no sense to me.

54 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:20:09pm

Truth in advertising.

I am voting Democrat because I am a F**king idiot.

55 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:20:18pm

I'm voting for Obama because I want the Dollar to be worth less than the Peso. I think it would really help our trade imbalance with other countries. Besides wouldn't it be cool to have to sneak into Mexico to find work?

56 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:20:41pm

I'm voting Democrat because I want to hang out with the thug thizzle crowd.

57 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:20:42pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm a feminist and enjoy the challenge of explaining to Republican women why though we SAY we're for all women, we're really not. It's not my fault they don't get it. Geez, they're all sooooooo uptight.

58 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:20:50pm

re: #52 CIA Reject

*sigh* The "progressives" can't even let kids be kids.

They're a lot like the islamists in that regard.

In the radical Islamist outlook any unbeliever is a kid, and so has to be treated accordingly.

59 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:21:13pm

I'm voting Democrat because I've recently been lobotomized and the Democrats are offering free food, booze, crack, hookers and transportation on election day.

And change, of course.

60 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:21:43pm

I'm voting Obama because He's right, we really are a mean country and need to give everything away to those more worthy.

61 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:21:51pm

Regarding Universal socialize Health care:

I'm voting Democrat...

"Because Free is better than quality any day"
62 bosforus  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:22:16pm

I've always loved Rush's fake pro-Obama spot. The one where the 'interviewees' ramble about hope and change.

63 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:22:29pm

re: #52 CIA Reject

*sigh* The "progressives" can't even let kids be kids.

They're a lot like the islamists in that regard.

Yes, and he really did support that bill to teach sex ed in kindergarten.

64 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:22:43pm

re: #54 Bubblehead II

Truth in advertising.

I am voting Democrat because I am a F**king idiot.

Upding dat!

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
- Winston Churchill

A little severe but warranted when you're talking about today's crop of "liberals".

65 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:22:49pm

re: #52 CIA Reject

Because letting kids be kids means that they'll be actually enjoying themselves rather than helping bring about the glorious socialist revolution.

/As many here have mentioned, all the totalitarian regimes had "youth cults" to propagate their "values" and intice other kids to join them, as well as act as an apparatus of the state to monitor their parents.

66 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:22:54pm

I'm voting for Obama because I so desire to see the end of "Question Authority" badges and stickers.

67 sattv4u2  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:23:06pm

re: #59 JammieWearingFool

I'm voting Democrat because I've recently been lobotomized and the Democrats are offering free food, booze, crack, hookers and transportation on election day.

And change, of course.

I'll trade my free food, booze, crack and transportation for your hooker! I've always been 2 females shy of a threesome !

68 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:23:08pm

I'm voting Democrats because it's just sheer genius to take a recent graduate and make him the CEO.

/

plus- he's cute and stuff. and he's going to give 95% of us a welfare check and call it a tax cut.

69 J.D.  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:23:29pm

re: #66 solomonpanting

I'm voting for Obama because I so desire to see the end of "Question Authority" badges and stickers.

lol
Now that makes sense.

70 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:23:58pm

re: #59 JammieWearingFool

I'm voting Democrat because I've recently been lobotomized and the Democrats are offering free food, booze, crack, hookers and transportation on election day.

And change, of course.

Yaar, that's ACORN not the Democrats or Obama, There is absolutely no connection between Soros, ACORN, Obama, DNC or reality!
/ARRR!

71 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:24:26pm

i wonder if any of them are voting obama because he went to germany and apologized to the world for how bad his country is?

72 mitthrawnurdo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:24:28pm

re: #66 solomonpanting

Question Authority!

/Unless the authority is leftist, then it is sacred writ.

73 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:24:37pm

i'm voting for Obama cuz if i don't all my freinds will call me horrible names.

74 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:24:40pm

re: #62 bosforus

I've always loved Rush's fake pro-Obama spot. The one where the 'interviewees' ramble about hope and change.


Change is, like, about the future, and the future is, like, about change.

Love that spot.

75 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:24:43pm

re: #58 FurryOldGuyJeans

In the radical Islamist outlook any unbeliever is a kid, and so has to be treated accordingly.

Perhaps, but I was referring to how both groups are willing to completely disregard the child's welfare in favor of using him/her as a tool to advance their agenda.

76 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:01pm

friends

77 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:20pm

I'm voting democrat becasue I love the idea that Democrats ran Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae into the ground, right after they pocketed millions.
Now the democrats blame republicans and free markets. I think that's way cool.

78 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:24pm

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

Ask any Obamaton why they're voting for him and you'll get pap like this. Or simply blank stares and a rush to change the subject.

Nobody can identify an accomplishment.

That's because their vote is a vote against war, against Bush, against the man.

79 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:43pm

I'm voting for Obama, because after he gets rid of all of our nuke-u-lar weapons, the Iranians, and North Koreans won't want their stab at it anymore.

80 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:45pm

or because they don't want their daughter punished w/ a child.

81 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:46pm

re: #48 loflyer

Arrr, voting Democrat because Obama will remove the anti-pirate task-force, TF-150 for "redeployment". Yo! Ho! Ho!

Actually, reportedly, Biden is in the pockets of the part of the music and movie industry that really wants to ram strong-DRM-related regulations down our throats. One more reason not to vote Democrat this term.

82 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:47pm

Let's see....we're 34 days out from the election, right? As it has been said numerous times before, five weeks is a life time in political election seasons.

Just think: it was August 29th, the day after Obama's greek column speech, when Sarah Palin was announced as John McCain's running mate.

That was 34 days ago, today. And look at the roller-coaster ride it's been during those 34 days.

Anything can happen from now til Nov 4, folks.

83 RTLM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:51pm

Lots of deceased individuals voting Democrat - because they can.

84 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:25:56pm

re: #65 mitthrawnurdo

Because letting kids be kids means that they'll be actually enjoying themselves rather than helping bring about the glorious socialist revolution.

/As many here have mentioned, all the totalitarian regimes had "youth cults" to propagate their "values" and intice other kids to join them, as well as act as an apparatus of the state to monitor their parents.

BINGO!

85 Perplexed  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:26:00pm

I'm voting Democrat because they gave me:

A carton of cigarettes
A bottle of whiskey
A rock to smoke
A new refrigerator box to sleep in.

86 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:26:29pm

I'm voting Democrats becasue if I don't, I will be labeled a racist, and there is nothing worse on this earth than being called a racist.

87 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:26:46pm

re: #72 mitthrawnurdo

Question Authority!

/Unless the authority is leftist, then it is sacred writ.

Don't want none of those Troof Squads paying you a visit now, huh?

88 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:26:47pm

I'm voting for Obama, because I thought Saddam Hussein was a cool dude, and wish he were still ruling Iraq.

89 spidly  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:26:55pm

well, at least obama's little red book will be easy to memorize so beatings over not knowing it should be rare.

pg1. hope
pg2. change
pg3. what McCain said.....but I said it first

90 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:26:59pm

re: #76 willowone

friends

Yaar, mates are friends who help you move. True friends will help move your dead mates body!

91 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:27:11pm

I'm voting for Obama becuase I love the Soviet style campaign posters.

92 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:27:36pm

heh

re: #90 loflyer

93 debutaunt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:27:41pm

re: #83 RTLM

Lots of deceased individuals voting Democrat - because they can.

Do the dead get a full vote? It isn't a partial is it?

94 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:03pm

re: #62 bosforus

I've always loved Rush's fake pro-Obama spot. The one where the 'interviewees' ramble about hope and change.

I have heard enough O supporters ramble nigh-on incoherently when it comes to the reason why they are supporting him to make me think the advert really is a compilation of real Man On The Street interviews.

95 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:14pm

By the way Cubs fans

Cubs 2 Dodgers 0 in the 3rd.

7 games away from the World Series.

96 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:19pm

I'm voting Democrat becasue I want reward the liberal media for doing such a good job hiding Obama's radical past and left-wing associations.

97 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:20pm

re: #93 debutaunt

Do the dead get a full vote? It isn't a partial is it?

In some cases, they even get more than one vote each.

98 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:21pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

I'm voting for Obama becuase I love the Soviet style campaign posters.


"Better Red Than Dead"

99 Geepers  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:30pm

Gosh, it's seems like that ad is suggesting that most of the people who are voting Democrat have intellectual bulimia.

100 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:41pm

re: #85 Perplexed

I'm voting Democrat because they gave me:

A carton of cigarettes
A bottle of whiskey
A rock to smoke
A new refrigerator box to sleep in.

i think it was rush today who had audio of bums registered by acorn who were all over the kick backs for signing on. they were 'jazzed' at what they were gonna get for going to the polls.

101 uncle_monkey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:44pm

I'm voting Democrat because that way, I get to vote more often.

102 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:45pm

Well I will just vote for Obama because I'm too lazy to go to the polls and he'll make sure I get and absentee ballot so I can vote for him today. That way I don't even have to think about the issues.

103 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:28:52pm

re: #81 NomadOfNorad

Actually, reportedly, Biden is in the pockets of the part of the music and movie industry that really wants to ram strong-DRM-related regulations down our throats. One more reason not to vote Democrat this term.

You have me' tagged Nomad! Death to DRM and the bilge-rats who support it!

104 debutaunt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:29:39pm

re: #97 looking closely

In some cases, they even get more than one vote each.

After I'm dead, I'd expect a triple vote, what with all the effort it will take.

105 GoJeepGo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:29:47pm

I'm voting Obama because Bush is a dictator who lied to get us into an illegal racist war so his rich oil buddies could steal from poor minorities and poison the earth because he's in the pocket of greedy oil companies and take away our freedoms and put us in a police state and let black people drown in New Orleans and melt the polar ice caps and kill polar bears and deny the sick their miracle stem cell cures! Change! Hope!

106 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:29:49pm

re: #102 galloping granny

hear, hear

107 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:29:53pm

I'm voting Democrat becasue I think Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer are such wonderful, smart, honest people.

108 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:29:54pm

re: #86 FrogMarch

I'm voting Democrats becasue if I don't, I will be labeled a racist, and there is nothing worse on this earth than being called a racist.

I'm voting Democrat because if I don't, I will be labeled a fascist, and the only thing worse than being called a racist is being called a fascist.

109 J.D.  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:30:33pm

re: #105 GoJeepGo

Very good!

110 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:30:34pm

re: #95 3 wood

By the way Cubs fans

Cubs 2 Dodgers 0 in the 3rd.

7 games away from the World Series.

Go Dodgers.

Joe Torre is my sole rooting interest in this postseason. And, well, Mom is still a Brooklyn Dodgers fan.

111 imtoast  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:30:36pm

Does anyone know what the Dow closed at?

112 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:31:12pm

re: #111 imtoast

Does anyone know what the Dow closed at?

19 points down, S&P at 20 points down.

113 Gang of One  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:31:16pm

I'm voting for Obama because those singing kiddies really got to me.

114 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:31:21pm

I'm voting for Obama because he is going to cut taxes on 95% of Americans.

115 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:31:33pm

re: #105 GoJeepGo

I'm voting Obama because Bush is a dictator who lied to get us into an illegal racist war so his rich oil buddies could steal from poor minorities and poison the earth because he's in the pocket of greedy oil companies and take away our freedoms and put us in a police state and let black people drown in New Orleans and melt the polar ice caps and kill polar bears and deny the sick their miracle stem cell cures! Change! Hope!

Good summation of how an Obamaton thinks.

116 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:32:06pm

I'm voting Democrat because those really smart men on the news having nightly orgasms seem to think it's a good idea.

117 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:32:09pm

re: #111 imtoast

Does anyone know what the Dow closed at?

10,831.07

Anybody know if the ban on short selling is still in force?

118 Gang of One  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:32:12pm

re: #111 imtoast

Does anyone know what the Dow closed at?

4:30 PM EST?

119 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:32:17pm

Christopher "Countrywide" Dodd is speaking right now (C-SPAN2).

On behalf of level-headed Nutmeggers, I'm truly sorry. I've never voted for him.

120 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:32:28pm

re: #110 JammieWearingFool

Go Dodgers.

Sad to say the Dodgers are so out of their league that in this best-of-five series I pick the Cubs in two.

121 Archimedes  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:32:53pm

I'm elitist and you just wouldn't understand. LOL man did that NAIL IT!

122 GoJeepGo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:33:02pm

re: #115 unrealizedviewpoint

unfortunately I am surrounded by them at work.

123 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:11pm

re: #120 solomonpanting

Sad to say the Dodgers are so out of their league that in this best-of-five series I pick the Cubs in two.

Cubs fans are cursing you for jinxing them.

124 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:29pm

re: #74 JammieWearingFool

Isn't that like, uhmm, ya know, circular, uhmm logiic?

125 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:34pm

I'm voting for Obama because America sucks, and nobody wants to come here anymore.

126 bosforus  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:53pm

re: #74 JammieWearingFool

Change is, like, about the future, and the future is, like, about change.

Love that spot.

That's the one!

127 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:57pm

re: #124 Bubblehead II

Isn't that like, uhmm, ya know, circular, uhmm logiic?

Logic? What's that?

128 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:34:58pm

re: #95 3 wood

By the way Cubs fans

Cubs 2 Dodgers 0 in the 3rd.

7 games away from the World Series.


Don't jinx em 3 wood...
:)

129 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:35:30pm

I'm voting Democrat because McCain is an old man and Sarah Palin is a fake woman who shoots poor, defenseless wolves from helicopters. And mooses/meese/mouse/like, whatever! and and because she thinks her hair looks good like that, and everybody knows her glasses are only for show.

Like, ya know?

130 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:35:31pm

re: #117 CIA Reject

10,831.07

Anybody know if the ban on short selling is still in force?

Not all short selling, just a list of certain financial stocks.

If you want to take a net short position, you can still legally create a synthetic one with options, by the way.

131 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:35:38pm

re: #114 looking closely

I'm voting for Obama because he is going to cut taxes on 95% of Americans.

But by the time we pay for universal health care and all his other dreams, we will take home, according to a financial analyst that was on Fox earlier today, just $0.37 of every dollar we earn. Thirty seven cents!

132 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:35:51pm

re: #103 loflyer

You have me' tagged Nomad! Death to DRM and the bilge-rats who support it!

:D :D :D :D

Me, I support a DRM-less industry by buying music only from DRM-free places like eMusic.com., Amie Street, and Amazon.com's MP3 store.... and by ripping all my CDs.

133 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:36:02pm

re: #123 JammieWearingFool

Cubs fans are cursing you for jinxing them.

Bwahahahahahahaha....

134 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:36:07pm

re: #60 willowone

I'm voting Obama because He's right, we really are a mean country and need to give everything away to those more worthy.

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm today.

Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

-Fire Dept. Proverb

135 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:38:29pm

re: #134 CIA Reject haha !

136 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:13pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm too embarrassed to travel to Europe when there's a Republican in the White House.

137 Tarkus289  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:16pm

I'm voting dem
I'm voting democ
I'm voting democr
AHHHH, I can't even say it as a joke.

138 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:24pm

re: #132 NomadOfNorad

:D :D :D :D

Me, I support a DRM-less industry by buying music only from DRM-free places like eMusic.com., Amie Street, and Amazon.com's MP3 store.... and by ripping all my CDs.

Thanks for the heads up, mate, free is good! Yaar!

139 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:45pm

re: #117 CIA Reject

10,831.07

Anybody know if the ban on short selling is still in force?

Not all short selling, just a list of certain financial stocks.

If you want to take a net short position, you can still legally create a synthetic one with options, by the way.
re: #131 galloping granny

But by the time we pay for universal health care and all his other dreams, we will take home, according to a financial analyst that was on Fox earlier today, just $0.37 of every dollar we earn. Thirty seven cents!

I'm voting for Obama because he's going to give me Universal health care.

/Why buy for myself what the government can take from my paycheck then give me back for free?

140 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:39:53pm

I'm voting Democrat because everyone I know is voting Democrat.

141 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:40:17pm

re: #128 HoosierHoops

Don't jinx em 3 wood...
:)

I'm a Sox fan don't forget.

Actually, personal rooting interests aside, I think the team you least want to go against in the plaoffs is the White Sox. That is because they are essentially a 16 inch soft ball team (Chicagoans will know what I mean), and if their hitters start stepping into some pitches they will blow people out.

They can also easily get swept 3 straight too,

142 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:40:21pm

re: #122 GoJeepGo

unfortunately I am surrounded by them at work.

Think of it like this - you're deep undercover. Wait for the lizard signal to surface.

143 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:40:24pm

re: #130 looking closely

Not all short selling, just a list of certain financial stocks.

If you want to take a net short position, you can still legally create a synthetic one with options, by the way.

Yes, I admit that I've done rather well with puts on the S&P 500 in the past couple of days.

I'm not happy about the situation, but when life gives you lemons...

144 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:40:28pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not a racist.

145 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:40:33pm

re: #127 Fat Jolly Penguin

Linear or Boolean?

146 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:40:50pm

I'm voting Democrat cuz if i don't the Republicans will make me have 20 children

147 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:05pm

Looks like I've missed some good threads.

148 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:29pm

and someone is voting for ZerObama 'cause they want "God to Damn Amerika!"

/and I really believe that.

149 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:29pm

I'm voting Democrat because that's what smart people do.

150 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:41pm

re: #139 looking closely

I'm voting for Obama because he's going to give me Universal health care.

/Why buy for myself what the government can take from my paycheck at a 500% mark-up then give me back for free?

151 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:47pm

re: #131 galloping granny

But by the time we pay for universal health care and all his other dreams, we will take home, according to a financial analyst that was on Fox earlier today, just $0.37 of every dollar we earn. Thirty seven cents!

Geez Obama is scary.
It's all part of THIS plan.

152 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:49pm

I remember well those two-game leads the Cubs had in 1984 ... and 1989 ... and 2003.

How'd those championship parades work out those years?

Two words: Leon Durham

Just think, Cubs fans, do you want to sell your souls to get a congratulatory phone call from Obama?

/
.

153 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:51pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm nice.

154 Reno911  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:41:58pm

I'm voting Democrat because the current crop of Republicans is morally bankrupt and I want the next crop of Republicans to learn a lesson.

Now that's fucking Change.

155 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:10pm

re: #139 looking closely

If you want to take a net short position, you can still legally create a synthetic one with options, by the way.

Yeah, the ban is full of holes.

They might as well let it expire tomorrow and just reinstate the uptick rule and let it go.

Incidentally, the FTSE and Nikkei are up overseas.

156 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:20pm

I'm voting Democrat because the War on Terror is SO overrated...

/sticks head back in the sand

157 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:24pm

I thought I had one of my Lib friends off the hook recently. About a month ago, she professed bewilderment over the media circus surrounding 0. I replied, in a sense, "just wait until you year about...

Will Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn
Mike Pfleger
Tony Rezco
Frank Davis
Chicago Annenberg Challenge
etc...

Then I went into issues about the media being in the tank for Obama, and told her she'd likely have to go looking for that information, as they would not likely report on any of it.

I lead her to the trough.

I could tell she was starting to turn back when she referred to Palin as white trash, only days after her nomination. Then I sent her the Glenn Reynolds (?) of that email from the media newsroom. All she could reply with was that the election "is scary. We don't know anything about Obama (I lead her to the trough) and the McCain Palin ticket is a joke." I expressed a sentiment that I thought would appeal to a bright, independent woman, that it was refreshing to see a "bright, competent woman succeed outside of the Beltway." She clearly hadn't bothered to educate herself for her vote. She didn't think of Palin as bright or competent.

Now, even though I sent her a link to confirmation that the media is admittedly in the tank for Obama, she refused to recognize that her opinion of the political climate is based on her exposure to the information delivered through the MSM.

Ron White is right. You can't fix stupid.

158 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:37pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm against war.

159 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:38pm

I'm voting Democrat because I like the way they spell Amerikkka.

160 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:42:58pm

I love being "reasoned" with by people who call me and those I support rethuglican zionist scum and hope I get hit by a bus and starve.

161 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:11pm

I'm voting Democrat because I don't pay taxes anyway and I've always had this incredible dream all my life of being a beach bum in California. Obama understands the burning ambitions of people like me and will make sure that I'll get free medical coverage in case of really bad sun burn or a shark bites me when I'm surfing. Stuff like that.

162 imtoast  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:23pm

re: #111 imtoast

Thank you but I need the exact number, you know like 259.78 type thing. I'm doing a project. Yesterday it was 485.21. Can you help me?

163 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:43:41pm

Yaar, I am voting for anyone not listed as incumbent on the ballot! Frack both parties!

164 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:44:10pm

re: #140 Ringo the Gringo

I'm voting Democrat because everyone I know is voting Democrat.

I'm voting Democrat because... all my friends are walking lemming-like off a cliff as well...

165 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:44:31pm

re: #135 willowone

haha !

Thanks, but "gallows humor" comes with the territory and some of it is bound to rub off.

166 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:44:39pm

re: #157 Noam Sayin' don't give up .

167 3 wood  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:44:54pm

re: #152 JammieWearingFool

Just think, Cubs fans, do you want to sell your souls to get a congratulatory phone call from Obama?

/

Cubs are up 2 zip in the 4th.

When are the New York teams playing?

168 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:45:50pm

re: #138 loflyer

Thanks for the heads up, mate, free is good! Yaar!

Yaar loflyer!
We got a buddy with a huge SANS setup and we all have contributed every song and half the music movies known to man..
He started back in the napster daze...
Just the 8 of us share the system..but it's great..Ya need music from the disney channel? *shutter* download it..Every song eric clapton has ever recorded..It's on the SANS.
I guess he is a real pirate..

169 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:45:56pm

I'm voting Democrat because I want our country to be just like Europe! Especially France.

170 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:46:02pm

re: #165 CIA Reject
sometimes sick humor is quite delicious .

171 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:46:28pm

But I'm NOT voting Democrat 'cause the ZerObama Campaign dis'd Lindsey Lohan!

/users aren't losers!

172 GoJeepGo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:46:41pm

I'm voting democrat because I want to look and sound cool at parties (and maybe I'll get laid)

173 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:46:56pm

I'm voting Democrat because I like alternative Rock and Republicans only listen to contemporary Country Western and Christian Pop.

174 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:08pm

I'm voting for Obama cuz it might make all the pain of the world go away.

175 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:17pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

I'm voting for Obama becuase I love the Soviet style campaign posters.

Have you seen these?

176 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:21pm

re: #168 HoosierHoops

Yaar loflyer!
We got a buddy with a huge SANS setup and we all have contributed every song and half the music movies known to man..
He started back in the napster daze...
Just the 8 of us share the system..but it's great..Ya need music from the disney channel? *shutter* download it..Every song eric clapton has ever recorded..It's on the SANS.
I guess he is a real pirate..

Yaaar! A real pirate never gets caught! Good luck to your mate!

177 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:30pm

re: #170 willowone

sometimes sick humor is quite delicious .

And it serves a purpose in insulating the participant from the (frequently horrific) action being lampooned.

178 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:41pm

Meanwhile (vie Drudge) SOROS is giddy over the fact that the US quickly becoming a government owned socialist state.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

179 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:50pm

re: #143 CIA Reject

Yes, I admit that I've done rather well with puts on the S&P 500 in the past couple of days.

I'm not happy about the situation, but when life gives you lemons...

...find somebody else whose life gives them vodka and the two of ya have a party!

Ron White

180 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:47:52pm

re: #130 looking closely

Not all short selling, just a list of certain financial stocks.

If you want to take a net short position, you can still legally create a synthetic one with options, by the way.


Ah, well our compliance area will not allow us to sell even stock certs we have in hand, until they clear legal and the transfer agent. The clients MUST be long the stock, any stock, to sell.

181 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:48:08pm

I'm voting democrat because of Bush. That m07h3rf#c5ing sonofa8ihtc a$$h073 p61ck is killing everyone everywhere! And he is secretly rounding people up and sticking them in detention centers in Nebraska. It's true! Olberman said so.

182 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:48:24pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm tolerant.

183 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:48:42pm

re: #178 FrogMarch

Meanwhile (vie Drudge) SOROS is giddy over the fact that the US quickly becoming a government owned socialist state.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]


Given this choice or a depression, I'd rather the depression.

184 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:07pm

I'm voting for Obama because I'm clean and articulate, too.

185 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:10pm

I'm voting Democrat so everyone will stop being so mean to me.

186 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:11pm

I'm voting democrat because it makes me tingly. Tee-hee!

187 profitsbeard  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:17pm

I'm voting Democrat because a man's skin color is more important than the content of his character.

That's what Martin Lex Luthor said.

188 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:44pm

re: #175 rawmuse they make nifty shirts

189 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:49:44pm

re: #174 willowone

I'm voting for Obama cuz it might make all the pain of the world go away.

Nope. He's only going to rearrange it according the the Messiah Obama Children's Choir

190 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:50:42pm

I'm voting Democrat because I live in California.

191 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:50:50pm

re: #179 Intrepid

...find somebody else whose life gives them vodka and the two of ya have a party!

Ron White

"When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. When life gives you sh*t... make sh*tade?"

Anon.

192 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:51:05pm

re: #189 galloping granny

I want to know what those parents were thinking. (wait no i don't)

193 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:51:07pm

One of the funniest threads in a long time. Thanks, lizards.

194 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:51:09pm

re: #141 3 wood

I'm a Sox fan don't forget.

Actually, personal rooting interests aside, I think the team you least want to go against in the plaoffs is the White Sox. That is because they are essentially a 16 inch soft ball team (Chicagoans will know what I mean), and if their hitters start stepping into some pitches they will blow people out.

They can also easily get swept 3 straight too,


My brother is big sox fan.. my Little sister like the mariners and I've been a fan of the giants..back in college we went to candlestick on Tuesday nights for 5 bucks..

195 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:51:41pm

re: #174 willowone

I'm voting for Obama cuz it might make all the pain of the world go away.

I'm voting for Obama because, " . . . I want him to do his thang. You know, do his thug thizzle. You know. That’s how I like it to be. You know."

196 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:51:42pm

I'm voting Democrat because Democrat chicks are easier.

197 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:52:20pm

re: #196 Ringo the Gringo

I'm voting Democrat because Democrat chicks are easier.


Maybe, but they have hairy armpits and hate men.

198 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:52:21pm

re: #169 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm voting Democrat because I want our country to be just like Europe! Especially France.

Is France a country?

199 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:52:34pm

re: #193 ciaospirit
It is nice to smile, isn't it?

200 CapeCoddah  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:52:53pm

re: #196 Ringo the Gringo

LOL, Yeah, but they don't shave legs or underarms.

201 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:05pm

re: #196 Ringo the Gringo

You have me laughing so hard I'm wiping tears.

202 GeeWiz  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:10pm

I posted this two threads down and feel it may have revelance here:

Sarah presents the left with a problem they did not expect. She represents you and me, the average voter. We can identify with her and her life experiences. How many candidates for public office can we say that about? Sarah exemplifies our dream to become a political candidate for any office, let alone VP. Is she not what the framers of our constitution had in mind?

The political left is reduced to howling about her lack of experience, all the while ignoring the absence of the same credentials of their own candidate for POTUS never mind the one for the VP slot.

I can only hope that the average American will see through all of this BS and elect John & Sarah come this November.

203 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:10pm

re: #198 rightymouse

Is France a country?

LOL

204 loflyer  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:11pm

Yaar, later mates, have to clean-out the bilge-rats. Catch you on the flip side. I might vote Democrat if the offered me 700 billion. Nah, even a pirate has ethics! Yo, Ho, Ho!

205 mikeymom  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:39pm

I'm voting democrat cause i live near Boulder, CO and everyone knows what an utopian city that is and they all like obama and michelle

206 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:53:40pm

When I die, I'm going to donate my voting card to the Democrat party.

/

207 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:54:12pm

re: #196 Ringo the Gringo

I'm voting Democrat because Democrat chicks are easier.

I ran into a woman recently who had on a t-shirt that said "I only f*ck democrats".

I said cool. How much?

208 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:54:32pm

re: #195 reine.de.tout
O sure ruin my Laughing moment.

This is an amazing bizzare election isn't it.

209 Dekar  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:54:38pm

Pretty awesome. Favorited

210 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:54:56pm

I'm Voting Democrat Because -

1. I am a ROACH for RAID!

2. I am a CHICKEN for COL. SANDERS!

3. I BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS and the EASTER BUNNY!

4. I need SPARE CHANGE instead of an income.

Oh, poor me.

-S-

211 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:55:26pm

I'll hang in there, Willow. And if BHO gets elected (not bloody likely), I'll be sure to point out his foibles for the next four years with a big, fat, "I f*ckin' told ya!"

Hemingway, I think I hear my scooter calling me. She's been neglected the past few days.

BBIAW...

212 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:55:49pm

re: #207 Racer X

I ran into a woman recently who had on a t-shirt that said "I only f*ck democrats".

I said cool. How much?

Well, they way it's looking, we're all going to get fu*ked by Democrats soon enough.

213 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:55:51pm

re: #207 Racer X

I ran into a woman recently who had on a t-shirt that said "I only f*ck democrats".

I said cool. How much?


My fav t-shirt was on this absolute beauty that said:
You can't be first..but you might be next..

214 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:56:03pm

re: #200 CapeCoddah
why shave, they can be nicely beaded

215 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:56:18pm

I'm voting democrat because I want to take home .37 cents for every dollar I earn - and I want the government to provide me with basic necessities so that I don't have to think or worry. I want the government to take away any drive or ambition so that I can become a proper little mind-numbed proggie-bot.

216 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:56:19pm

I'm voting Democrat because it's all about me, myself and I.
But, enough talk about me. How do you like my shoes?

217 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:56:32pm

re: #207 Racer X

I ran into a woman recently who had on a t-shirt that said "I only f*ck democrats".

I said cool. How much?

I ran into a woman recently who had on a t-shirt that said "Guess"...

I said "38 D?"...

and she got all pissed off.

/Go Figure!

218 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:00pm

I'm voting Democratic because they have their feet well-planted on the ground, on top of the financial institutions.

219 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:03pm

re: #208 willowone

O sure ruin my Laughing moment.

This is an amazing bizzare election isn't it.

Oh, sorry. I thought the "thug thizzle thang" might get a laugh.

Not really, it's pitiful people are allowed to vote who have no clue how to think things through.

Yes, an amazing and also very interesting election.

220 mikeymom  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:16pm

re: #216 rawmuse

are those birks?

221 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:33pm

re: #211 Noam Sayin'
right if He does, I'll make sure to beat dems down as they have us the last 5 years unceasingly

222 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:39pm

re: #220 mikeymom

are those birks?

natch.

223 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:51pm

re: #219 reine.de.tout

Oh, sorry. I thought the "thug thizzle thang" might get a laugh.

Not really, it's pitiful people are allowed to vote who have no clue how to think things through.

Yes, an amazing and also very interesting election.

Totally OT - can I send you recipes via another LGF poster?

224 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:57:57pm

re: #183 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Given this choice or a depression, I'd rather the depression.

I know. If Soros is advancing something - I want no part of it.

225 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:58:01pm

Being an adult is knowing that wishing will not make it so. Much as I wish that McCain would kick over the table and say "Hell No" that isn't going to happen.

226 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:58:17pm

I'm voting Democrat because I care about the world, damn it!

227 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:58:39pm

re: #223 rightymouse

Totally OT - can I send you recipes via another LGF poster?

yes, of course.
Please make sure it's identified by your nic.

228 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:59:18pm

re: #56 ciaospirit

I'm voting Democrat because I want to hang out with the thug thizzle crowd.


That's some scary crap going on in our state. Looks like ACORN and their running buddies are starting very early.

229 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:59:23pm

re: #226 Ringo the Gringo

I'm voting Democrat because I care about the world, damn it!

well we are the world after all..

230 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:59:24pm

re: #198 rightymouse

Is France a country?

"I thought Europe was a country." Good God. She is one reason why we need Sarah Palin.

231 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:59:44pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm against endless war and corporate greeeed!

232 Perplexed  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 4:59:55pm

I'm voting Democrat because I like the way my knees still work.

233 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:00:47pm

I'm voting for Obama cuz his wars will be the right wars.

234 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:00:49pm

This morning when I went out for our walk my furry friend expected me to go for the distant news stand to get the Sun as has been our routine. When I turned to walk in a different direction he stopped and looked over his shoulder at me as if to ask, "You sure Dad?"

235 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:00:55pm

re: #192 willowone

I want to know what those parents were thinking. (wait no i don't)

I hear you there. I think there is a certain age when it is appropriate for children to become involved in the political process in some way. Not that way though - much too partisan and quite literally hero worship.


Good News - Bush just gave $25 Billion to the auto industry, they don't have to pay it back for 20 years.

WTF? How the hell much are they going to take us for? Over $600 billion last week, $700 billion for the "bailout", $130 Billion in tax cuts for anyone but us attached to the bailout and $25 billion more for the auto industry.

Let's see - that adds up to 1.455 TRILLION dollars - and I low-balled that $600 billion we laid out last week.

236 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:01:04pm

re: #230 ciaospirit

"I thought Europe was a country." Good God. She is one reason why we need Sarah Palin.


Bet she's voting Democrat too. If she can find her way to a voting booth.

237 arethusa  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:01:11pm

Wow, you guys are clearly not buying the Gondoliers for Obama ad.

Once again, not a nation known for its excellent taste in good leaders, from Mussolini to Berlusconi.

238 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:01:56pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

yes, of course.
Please make sure it's identified by your nic.


Will do. :)

239 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:01:57pm

You know, in all seriousness, I never thought I'd live to see the day when I'd rather go through a deep recession or maybe even a depression. I've worked so hard for what I have.

But this is a bad piece of legislation, lizards. If it passes, then our banks, and investment banks weill be nationalized.

Nationalized.

One man, the Secretary of the Treasury will have the power to forgive mortgages....can you imagine your neighborhood becoming section 8?
What's to stop some schmoo, who's never had a job in his life, or even an illegal, telling the govt that he deserves a McMansion? Or that he wants a house in your neighborhood, and doesn't have the money to pay for it?

Worse, the bill allows the bailing out of foreign banks! Can you imagine one day bailing out China? Iran? Russia?

This country is going to change because of this nightmare, but do we want it to take the route that will make Soros clap with joy, or do we want to suck it up and maybe have a better chance at saving our country?

240 solomonpanting  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:02:14pm

I'm voting for Obama because even when he screws up it'll still be Bush's fault.

241 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:02:37pm

......ok, ok, I'll vote for ZerObama, just shut up those fu*king singing kids!

242 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:02:37pm

I'm voting Democrat because da JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

/in moonbat circles, no further clarification is needed

243 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:02:48pm

re: #235 galloping granny
did they slip in Acorn project, in different terms and illegal immigration?

244 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:03:09pm

O'Reilly just said that the bailout bill does indeed give $$$ to ACORN

245 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:03:26pm

re: #235 galloping granny

i wish they'd send it to me, I'll stimulate the economy : P

246 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:03:41pm

I'm voting democrat because our current president has stopped any further terrorists attacks after 9-11.

247 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:15pm

re: #243 willowone

did they slip in Acorn project, in different terms and illegal immigration?

ACORN collects money under HOPE - and that was in there on the version the house turned down.

Lizards - better try to get through to the Senate switchboard again and write your Senators.

248 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:32pm

re: #244 galloping granny

well I'm stunned.

249 Catttt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:35pm

Notice leftists feel they are entitled to ridicule people they disagree with ad nauseum but are compelled to explain - at length - why it is not funny when THEY are made fun of?

Do they surgically remove their senses of proportion and humor when they register them as LLLs?

250 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:04:55pm

re: #228 rightymouse

That's some scary crap going on in our state. Looks like ACORN and their running buddies are starting very early.

It is. I've been emailing Brunner to find out how they plan to verify all ballots. Her office is ignoring me.

251 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:05:00pm

re: #247 galloping granny

i suspected Hope the other night, someone told me it was FHA?

252 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:06:09pm

Psssst! Hey buddy, wanna buy some Hope?

253 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:06:15pm

re: #249 Catttt
That they ridiculed over half the population and THEY are still voting for Him, is just stunning.

254 Catttt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:06:18pm

Hope for change - because change is hope!

No, wait.

Change for hope - because hope is change!

255 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:06:27pm

re: #251 willowone

i suspected Hope the other night, someone told me it was FHA?

No, HOPE is money to "improve communities"

256 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:07:09pm

re: #255 galloping granny
Damn them

257 CapeCoddah  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:07:15pm

My apologies if this has been posted already, but, this Senate bailout package is nothing but 400 pages of pork. Just got home not too long ago, and have been skimming this. This one is a puzzler:
SEC. 503. EXEMPTION FROM EXCISE TAX FOR CERTAIN
21 WOODEN ARROWS DESIGNED FOR USE BY
22 CHILDREN.
Page 300
Only for WOODEN arrows, though. We are in deep shit with this congress at the helm.
[Link: senateconservatives.files.wordpress.com...]

258 Oldasdirt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:07:15pm

Just flew in,,Hello G. Granny

259 Spiny Norman  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:07:34pm

re: #195 reine.de.tout

I'm voting for Obama because, " . . . I want him to do his thang. You know, do his thug thizzle. You know. That’s how I like it to be. You know."

Homelessy McWinterhat fer Prez, yo!

=^D

260 lummox  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:08:01pm

I'm voting dem cuz my head is so far up my @ss , I can see my teeth.

261 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:08:06pm

re: #254 Catttt

Hope for change - because change is hope!

No, wait.

Change for hope - because hope is change!

Then Lancelot, Gallahad, and I jump out of the rabbit-

...We build this giant badger...

262 Oldasdirt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:08:07pm

Oh,,and Hi fellow lizzards

263 kynna  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:08:31pm

It's too bad the acting is so stilted. It's good stuff. I like that they were able to get some people of color in there (the hispanic guy talking about Hope and Change was my favorite).

264 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:08:33pm

re: #153 Ringo the Gringo

I'm voting Democrat because I'm nice.

i'm voting republican because i'm mean.

265 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:09:03pm

I'm still in the midst of trying to get through to Kay Bailey, my estemmed (cough, cough) senator to tell her NOT to vote for this tripe!

266 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:09:20pm

re: #250 ciaospirit

It is. I've been emailing Brunner to find out how they plan to verify all ballots. Her office is ignoring me.

I hope she gets thrown out of office. She's done everything to try and stack the deck here. They must be running scared or something?

267 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:09:22pm

re: #155 3 wood

Yeah, the ban is full of holes.

They might as well let it expire tomorrow and just reinstate the uptick rule and let it go.

Incidentally, the FTSE and Nikkei are up overseas.


The difference is the derivative positions don't affect the stock prices, where as shorting stock does. It is possible to drive a stock price way down should you have the cash to short sufficient shares. Not so with options.

Though I agree. The whole thing is mostly for psychological reasons anyway.

268 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:09:28pm

re: #256 willowone

Damn them

What do you think that attaching the bill to one that the Senate had already passed, one that bumped it up to 450+ pages this morning was about. The very second I heard 450+ pages I knew this was a con job. NOBODY can read a bill that length with any kind of reasonable analysis in the few hours they have allowed since they posted it this morning.

269 Oldasdirt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:09:53pm

Im voteing republican,because my brain has not been surgicly removed.

270 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:10:11pm

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FTSE 100 Index (19 July 1987 through 19 January 1988).

In financial markets, Black Monday is the name given to Monday, October 19, 1987, when stock markets around the world crashed, shedding a huge value in a very short period. The crash began in Hong Kong, spread west through international time zones to Europe, hitting the United States after other markets had already declined by a significant margin. The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) dropped by 508 points to 1739 (22.6%).[1] By the end of October, stock markets in Hong Kong had fallen 45.8%, Australia 41.8%, Spain 31%, the United Kingdom 26.4%, the United States 22.68%, and Canada 22.5%. New Zealand's market was hit especially hard, falling about 60% from its 1987 peak, and taking several years to recover.[2] (The terms Black Monday and Black Tuesday are also applied to October 28 and 29, 1929, which occurred after Black Thursday on October 24, which started the Stock Market Crash of 1929. In Australia and New Zealand the 1987 crash is also referred to as Black Tuesday because of the timezone difference.)

The Black Monday decline was the second largest one-day percentage decline in stock market history. Other large declines have occurred after periods of market closure, such as Saturday, December 12, 1914, when the DJIA fell 24.39%, ending the four month closure due to the outbreak of the First World War,[3] and Monday, September 17, 2001, the first day that the market was open following the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Interestingly, the DJIA was positive for the 1987 calendar year. It opened on January 2, 1987, at 1,897 points and would close on December 31st, 1987, at 1,939 points. The DJIA would not regain its August 25, 1987 closing high of 2,722 points until almost two years later.

A degree of mystery is associated with the 1987 crash, and it has been labeled as a black swan event.[4] Important assumptions concerning human rationality, the efficient market hypothesis, and economic equilibrium were brought into question by the event. Debate as to the cause of the crash still continues many years after the event, with no firm conclusions reached.

In the wake of the crash, markets around the world were put on restricted trading primarily because sorting out the orders that had come in was beyond the computer technology of the time. This also gave the Federal Reserve and other central banks time to pump liquidity into the system to prevent a further downdraft. While pessimism reigned, the market bottomed on October 20.

271 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:10:23pm

Well Kay Bailey's line is busy and the mail box is full...so I guess I'm sending another email.

I really hate my government right now.

272 lifeofthemind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:10:24pm

re: #257 CapeCoddah

Bullseye

273 godfrey  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:10:27pm

This election cycle is too long.

If it were shorter, and candidates hit harder, there'd be less of this idiotic cult of personality phenomenon, less opportunity for the media to exert continuous influence, and less election fatigue in the voter.

This election is a harbinger of many bad things. One of them (God forbid) may be the complete triumph of symbol over substance.

274 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:10:40pm

re: #234 lifeofthemind

This morning when I went out for our walk my furry friend expected me to go for the distant news stand to get the Sun as has been our routine. When I turned to walk in a different direction he stopped and looked over his shoulder at me as if to ask, "You sure Dad?"

awwww.
they don't like it when the routine is messed up.
especially if it's the ny sun out of business.
:(

275 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:11:04pm

re: #255 galloping granny
wouldn't it seem if this is so serious they would Vote for IT alone to help the Populace realize the gravity? instead we are soo Broke we're going to go buy more stuff?
what a mesage.

276 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:12:11pm

re: #167 3 wood

Cubs are up 2 zip in the 4th.

When are the New York teams playing?

Sunday, Giants Stadium, 1 pm is the only game left in town. You remember the Super Bowl champion Giants, don't you?

Hey look, the Knicks training camp opened today.

Us Yankee fans were resigned to this fate this year. The Mets?

Heh.

277 Knitwit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:13:03pm

I'm voting Democrat to help people who need my income more than I do.

278 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:13:29pm

Now THAT is a well done piece. I like it much better than the "redesigned USA.gov" bit from earlier today. Funny, makes a point, but not insulting, and ends on a calm note of offering more information to those interested.

279 Catttt  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:13:39pm

Old joke, but apt:

I was talking to a friend's little girl, and she said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, 'If you were to be the President, what is the first thing you would do?'

She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.' 'Wow - what a worthy goal.' I told her, 'You don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow, pull weeds, and sweep my sidewalks and driveway, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food or a new house.' She thought that over for a few seconds 'cause she's only 6. And while her Mom glared at me, the little girl looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

And I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party, sweetheart."

280 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:14:16pm

re: #271 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Well Kay Bailey's line is busy and the mail box is full...so I guess I'm sending another email.

I really hate my government right now.

I'll tell you one thing. I will vote for McCain & Pallin because at least Pallin is a washington outsider. But there is not a single sitting individual in any position that I will get a chance to vote for who will get my vote. I do not care who they are or what they are running for. I don't care about their party, their color or their stance on anything. And I absolutely do NOT care about their record. The only record I want to see is NONE. I am sick unto death of this crap from idiots that figure they have a free ride.

281 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:14:23pm

re: #240 solomonpanting

I'm voting for Obama because even when he screws up it'll still be Bush's fault.

You win.

But just so you know - I'm voting democrat because after MOST of the corrupt democrats in congress totally screw us over - that will be Bush's fault too.

282 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:14:32pm

re: #257 CapeCoddah

My apologies if this has been posted already, but, this Senate bailout package is nothing but 400 pages of pork. Just got home not too long ago, and have been skimming this. This one is a puzzler:
SEC. 503. EXEMPTION FROM EXCISE TAX FOR CERTAIN
21 WOODEN ARROWS DESIGNED FOR USE BY
22 CHILDREN.
Page 300
Only for WOODEN arrows, though. We are in deep shit with this congress at the helm.
[Link: senateconservatives.files.wordpress.com. ..]

What are the chances of THIS piece of shit being passed? Or of the House approving it? The public is too pissed off. I don't think if it's voted down it will affect the markets that much, they're going to start expecting it. Keep the pressure on the assholes until they come up with something halfway decent.

283 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:14:53pm

Holy shit! Dempster just coughed up a salami. Dodgers up 4-2.

284 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:14:56pm

I'm voting democrat because I really want to become an elitist. And you're going to pay for it.

285 arethusa  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:14:56pm

re: #257 CapeCoddah

My apologies if this has been posted already, but, this Senate bailout package is nothing but 400 pages of pork. Just got home not too long ago, and have been skimming this. This one is a puzzler:
SEC. 503. EXEMPTION FROM EXCISE TAX FOR CERTAIN
21 WOODEN ARROWS DESIGNED FOR USE BY
22 CHILDREN.
Page 300
Only for WOODEN arrows, though. We are in deep shit with this congress at the helm.
[Link: senateconservatives.files.wordpress.com. ..]

This is actually already US law, not to discourage you further. It's just in the bailout because it's up for renewal.

286 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:15:06pm

re: #266 rightymouse

I hope she gets thrown out of office. She's done everything to try and stack the deck here. They must be running scared or something?

Today they were bringing in busloads of Somalis for the early voting. Also was a bus with Illinois plates dropping off/picking up "voters".

287 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:15:35pm

re: #244 galloping granny

O'Reilly just said that the bailout bill does indeed give $$$ to ACORN

g.d. it. i want my money. if i have to give it away i don't want it going to fcking acorn. i want it going to the human shelter. in my county.
son of a bitches.

288 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:16:06pm

By the way, I've written this letter that I'm planning to give (anonymously), along with other material, to neighbors with Obama signs. What do y'all think?

Dear Neighbor,

I love the diversity of our great nation, and I have always tried to respect, or at least accept, the political opinions of others. I have to admit, this election year it is very difficult to do this. Although I have voted Democrat many times in the past, and although I would certainly be honored to vote for a qualified African-American candidate whose positions I believed in, whether Republican or Democrat, I could never vote for Barack Obama. And it's hard for me to understand how any person who considers himself or herself a patriotic American, who appreciates the values, ideals, and principles (moral, political and economic) that this country was founded on, could do this.

Despite his many claims to the contrary, Obama's life has been a study in rejection of many basic American values, ideals, and principles, to a degree shockingly unprecedented in any “mainstream” Presidential candidate since the founding of our Republic. There are so many reasons not to support him for President (almost any single one of which should be a deal breaker for most Americans), that I am honestly stunned to realize that he is not only still considered a viable candidate, but is currently moving ahead in the polls.

But then, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised. The media almost universally, and steadfastly, refuses to investigate Obama's background, positions, and qualifications, ask him hard questions, cover his (and Biden's) many gaffes and flip-flops, or criticize him in any way, while subjecting McCain and Palin to hostile interviews, slanting all their coverage against them, and working overtime to dig up “dirt” on Palin and even her family. They have built Obama up so much as a moderate, a uniter, a man of “hope” and “change” (and Obama himself is often so good at presenting himself in this light), that I think many people, when confronted with the hard facts about him, dismiss them as lies and smears concocted by “right wing nuts.” I have to admit, many of the individual charges against Obama seem almost too outrageous to be true, and when you look at them all together, it's easy to think, “Oh, come on! Nobody could be THAT bad. Surely this stuff would be all over the TV news and the papers if any of it was true.”

But the fact is all the charges against Obama are well-documented. Anyone can look them up, verify them, if they choose. The media is simply failing in, or more accurately, refusing to perform, its duty of covering this Presidential race and the Presidential (and Vice-Presidential) candidates objectively. If you are relying on the mainstream media for objective information about the candidates, you are being poorly served, and would do far better to get on the Internet and read the many websites, blogs, and videos dedicated to exposing Barack Obama's actual background, positions, and qualifications (or lack thereof).

I'm attaching a list of links and some articles for your consideration. I hope you will take the time to look them over and then see if you still believe Obama deserves your support.

289 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:16:06pm
290 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:16:54pm

re: #286 ciaospirit

Today they were bringing in busloads of Somalis for the early voting. Also was a bus with Illinois plates dropping off/picking up "voters".


Oh.My.Gawd.

I hope the story is true that GOP folks are photographing license plates when they see things like this.

291 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:17:15pm

re: #249 Catttt

Notice leftists feel they are entitled to ridicule people they disagree with ad nauseum but are compelled to explain - at length - why it is not funny when THEY are made fun of?

Do they surgically remove their senses of proportion and humor when they register them as LLLs?

Catttt-

"...Cause that's what LOBOTOMIES are for.."

One other comment off the subject - YO MOZILLA - WTF is the problem with playing .flv files all of a sudden?

This rant is brought to you by NETSCAPE 9 which probably approves of this message.

-S-

292 Caboose  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:17:25pm

i'm voting democrat 'cuz cute people on tv and in the movies and on the radio tell me to and cute is better than smart, y'know? plus mccain is just old and he can't text even and i bet he doesn't know what the hottest dance steps are...drool...can i have a cigarette?

293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:17:42pm

And here goes the idiots comparing Palin to Quale....

I feel exceeding pessimistic tonight....BO is gonna win and we're fucking doomed.

294 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:18:27pm

re: #282 Tigger2005

What are the chances of THIS piece of shit being passed? Or of the House approving it? The public is too pissed off. I don't think if it's voted down it will affect the markets that much, they're going to start expecting it. Keep the pressure on the assholes until they come up with something halfway decent.

The talking heads are swearing this is going to pass the Senate tonight. I think we are going to just about have to threaten revolution to stop it. Certainly we have to make it damned clear to every single Representative and every last Senator that if they vote for this it will be pretty darned close to the last vote they will ever cast.

295 Perplexed  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:19pm

Congress disapproval rating hovers around 77%. That is what they should be very worried about. Congress has failed the American people and should be held responsible for their collective actions.

296 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:23pm

re: #293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And here goes the idiots comparing Palin to Quale....

I feel exceeding pessimistic tonight....BO is gonna win and we're fucking doomed.

don't worry.
quale couldn't even spell tater and bush sr. still won.
gov. palin is going to do well.

297 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:35pm

re: #287 nyc redneck

g.d. it. i want my money. if i have to give it away i don't want it going to fcking acorn. i want it going to the human shelter. in my county.
son of a bitches.

nycrn -

For my small CHANGE, ACORN = RICO. That is all.

-S-

298 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:42pm

re: #293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And here goes the idiots comparing Palin to Quale....

I feel exceeding pessimistic tonight....BO is gonna win and we're fucking doomed.


What is this BS?
Emotions around here are more volatile than the DJIA.
Snap out of it.
McCain is doing fine, and you're falling for the media snowjob.
Get up and vote, and encourage everyone you know to do the same.

299 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:43pm

re: #294 galloping granny

The talking heads are swearing this is going to pass the Senate tonight. I think we are going to just about have to threaten revolution to stop it. Certainly we have to make it damned clear to every single Representative and every last Senator that if they vote for this it will be pretty darned close to the last vote they will ever cast.

Where do I call?

And it would still have to pass the House wouldn't it?

300 Geepers  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:19:59pm
BO is gonna win and we're fucking doomed.

That's the spirit.

301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:20:30pm

re: #296 nyc redneck

don't worry.
quale couldn't even spell tater and bush sr. still won.
gov. palin is going to do well.

Oh, I know...I'm just having a "glass is half empty" night tonight. I'll be fine tomorrow.

But thanks for your encouragement!

302 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:20:43pm
303 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:20:59pm

re: #300 Geepers

That's the spirit.

There's quite a few manic depressives around here, I have to say!

There's a solution for that!

Have a drink.

304 CapeCoddah  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:15pm

re: #294 galloping granny

The talking heads are swearing this is going to pass the Senate tonight. I think we are going to just about have to threaten revolution to stop it. Certainly we have to make it damned clear to every single Representative and every last Senator that if they vote for this it will be pretty darned close to the last vote they will ever cast.

It would surely be a way to finally rid that beautiful old building, the Capitol, of all the stale, hot air and vermin collected there over the past 40 years or so, though...

305 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:18pm
306 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:22pm

re: #299 Tigger2005

Where do I call?

And it would still have to pass the House wouldn't it?

And get signed by the President, though the chance of him vetoing ANYTHING at this point is nil.

There could be room for more negotiations/editing in reconciling the House/Senate versions, but I'd tend to think that would only lead to more pork, not less.

307 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:37pm
308 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:48pm

re: #282 Tigger2005

What's the chances? The fact that it's loaded with earmarks/pork means that the chances of passage increases. The pork's in there because it's been promised to someone for their vote. It's not about whether the bill is right or wrong. It's about what the bill can do for these particular members who are on the fence.

Whether the bill does what it's designed to do is an afterthought now.

309 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:57pm

re: #298 looking closely

What is this BS?
Emotions around here are more volatile than the DJIA.
Snap out of it.
McCain is doing fine, and you're falling for the media snowjob.
Get up and vote, and encourage everyone you know to do the same.


MWAH...I do plan on voting, for McCain...just having a bad night. A good whine is a healthy thing, as long as it's a temporary thing.

Besides, if you can't whine to your friends....

310 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:21:57pm

re: #294 galloping granny

The talking heads are swearing this is going to pass the Senate tonight. I think we are going to just about have to threaten revolution to stop it. Certainly we have to make it damned clear to every single Representative and every last Senator that if they vote for this it will be pretty darned close to the last vote they will ever cast.

Let's see... 75% + of the population doesn't want this or think it's the right thing to do.

Let me go look up that "representative republic" thing again, I must misunderstand it. Sure, the representatives are supposed to be a block from the tyranny of the majority, but I really don't think shelling out billions to bankers is one of the times that applies.

311 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:11pm

I'm confused. They're going to vote on H.R. 1424, which contains the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, and also contains Energy Improvement and Extension Act of 2008? Also the Tax Extenders and Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008. WTF?

312 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:16pm

re: #303 Tigger2005

There's quite a few manic depressives around here, I have to say!

There's a solution for that!

Have a drink.

No good.
Alcohol is a depressant.
/Have some lithium instead.

313 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:22pm

I'm voting for Obama/Biden because Senator Joe Biden has a really high IQ. I know this because he told us. And because his oratory skills are so good that he thinks he can cure wheelchair bound men just by calling for them to "stand up, stand up, Chuck, so they can see ya!"

314 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:32pm

re: #295 Perplexed

Congress disapproval rating hovers around 77%. That is what they should be very worried about. Congress has failed the American people and should be held responsible for their collective actions.

Can't we just have one big ginormous recall election and boot them all out?
I guess not. Oh well...

315 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:33pm

re: #295 Perplexed

Congress disapproval rating hovers around 77%. That is what they should be very worried about. Congress has failed the American people and should be held responsible for their collective actions.

The last I heard, Congress approval rating was in the 9-12% range. Where did the other 12 or so points go? No opinion?

316 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:38pm

re: #305 ploome hineni

wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

/I need a drink


I have an inexpensive, but nice merlot, care for a glass?

317 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:39pm

you must share !

re: #302 ploome hineni

318 BBev  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:56pm

re: #302 ploome hineni

TELL ME YOU ARE JOKING

/or send me more valium

I am so tired of left wing corruption of our nation, there will be backlash from all this.

319 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:22:56pm

re: #310 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Let's see... 75% + of the population doesn't want this or think it's the right thing to do.

Let me go look up that "representative republic" thing again, I must misunderstand it. Sure, the representatives are supposed to be a block from the tyranny of the majority, but I really don't think shelling out billions to bankers is one of the times that applies.

We're now a misrepresentative Republic.

320 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:23:01pm

re: #293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And here goes the idiots comparing Palin to Quale....

I feel exceeding pessimistic tonight....BO is gonna win and we're fucking doomed.


Buck up, hon. Don't let the bastards get ya down. We're going to win.

321 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:23:01pm

re: #280 galloping granny

I'll tell you one thing. I will vote for McCain & Pallin because at least Pallin is a washington outsider. But there is not a single sitting individual in any position that I will get a chance to vote for who will get my vote. I do not care who they are or what they are running for. I don't care about their party, their color or their stance on anything. And I absolutely do NOT care about their record. The only record I want to see is NONE. I am sick unto death of this crap from idiots that figure they have a free ride.

77% of congress needs to be flushed down the toilet.
I'm talking about--
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Chuck Schumer
Chris Dodd
et al

These creeps are making our founding fathers spin.

322 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:23:02pm
323 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:23:14pm

At this this point, I wish McCain would just vote against it and go all in.

324 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:23:53pm

re: #310 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Let's see... 75% + of the population doesn't want this or think it's the right thing to do.

Let me go look up that "representative republic" thing again, I must misunderstand it. Sure, the representatives are supposed to be a block from the tyranny of the majority, but I really don't think shelling out billions to bankers is one of the times that applies.

It is not just bankers. Did you see my post above where I added up all the millions "we" have spent in just the last couple of weeks adds up to nearly 1.5 TRILLION dollars, some of which never has to be paid back and billions of which is on a 20 year loan.

325 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:24:07pm

re: #293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And here goes the idiots comparing Palin to Quale....

I feel exceeding pessimistic tonight....BO is gonna win and we're fucking doomed.

"P-P" -

AND - if he does - He Just Might be "AGNEWED" by Fitzpatrick. If not, be assured, there will be opposition. The Republic will survive - as it always has - doing the "Right Thing" - after it has tried everything else.

-S-

326 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:24:15pm

re: #321 FrogMarch
hagel

327 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:24:31pm

re: #319 Tigger2005

We're now a misrepresentative Republic.

We are now a fire every last one of the SOBS republic.

328 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:24:37pm

re: #326 willowone

hagel

Murtha

329 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:25:09pm

re: #288 Tigger2005

By the way, I've written this letter that I'm planning to give (anonymously), along with other material, to neighbors with Obama signs. What do y'all think?

Dear Neighbor,

I love the diversity of our great nation, and I have always tried to respect, or at least accept, the political opinions of others. I have to admit, this election year it is very difficult to do this. Although I have voted Democrat many times in the past, and although I would certainly be honored to vote for a qualified African-American candidate whose positions I believed in, whether Republican or Democrat, I could never vote for Barack Obama. And it's hard for me to understand how any person who considers himself or herself a patriotic American, who appreciates the values, ideals, and principles (moral, political and economic) that this country was founded on, could do this.

Despite his many claims to the contrary, Obama's life has been a study in rejection of many basic American values, ideals, and principles, to a degree shockingly unprecedented in any “mainstream” Presidential candidate since the founding of our Republic. There are so many reasons not to support him for President (almost any single one of which should be a deal breaker for most Americans), that I am honestly stunned to realize that he is not only still considered a viable candidate, but is currently moving ahead in the polls.

But then, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised. The media almost universally, and steadfastly, refuses to investigate Obama's background, positions, and qualifications, ask him hard questions, cover his (and Biden's) many gaffes and flip-flops, or criticize him in any way, while subjecting McCain and Palin to hostile interviews, slanting all their coverage against them, and working overtime to dig up “dirt” on Palin and even her family. They have built Obama up so much as a moderate, a uniter, a man of “hope” and “change” (and Obama himself is often so good at presenting himself in this light), that I think many people, when confronted with the hard facts about him, dismiss them as lies and smears concocted by “right wing nuts.” I have to admit, many of the individual charges against Obama seem almost too outrageous to be true, and when you look at them all together, it's easy to think, “Oh, come on! Nobody could be THAT bad. Surely this stuff would be all over the TV news and the papers if any of it was true.”

But the fact is all the charges against Obama are well-documented. Anyone can look them up, verify them, if they choose. The media is simply failing in, or more accurately, refusing to perform, its duty of covering this Presidential race and the Presidential (and Vice-Presidential) candidates objectively. If you are relying on the mainstream media for objective information about the candidates, you are being poorly served, and would do far better to get on the Internet and read the many websites, blogs, and videos dedicated to exposing Barack Obama's actual background, positions, and qualifications (or lack thereof).

I'm attaching a list of links and some articles for your consideration. I hope you will take the time to look them over and then see if you still believe Obama deserves your support.

Ya know this is an excellent excellent letter.

330 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:25:31pm

re: #325 Dr. Shalit

"P-P" -

AND - if he does - He Just Might be "AGNEWED" by Fitzpatrick. If not, be assured, there will be opposition. The Republic will survive - as it always has - doing the "Right Thing" - after it has tried everything else.

-S-

From your keyboard to God's ears because we cannot undo nationalizing our banking industry, our mortgage industry, Wall Street and our auto industry.

331 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:25:35pm

re: #323 JacksonTn

At this this point, I wish McCain would just vote against it and go all in.


Taking a principled public stand and saying he can't in good conscience support a bill with so much pork in it would cause him to immediately win or lose the election.

Unfortunately, the way it would be spun, I wouldn't bet on a win.

332 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:08pm

re: #301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Oh, I know...I'm just having a "glass is half empty" night tonight. I'll be fine tomorrow.

But thanks for your encouragement!

i had the "half empty' problem this afternoon.
it's going around. LOL
we can't let the enemy break our spirits tho.
we have to get right back up.
we will prevail.

333 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:12pm

re: #288 Tigger2005

Very good!

I would also suggest mentioning the fact that Obama is rated as the most leftist politician in the country, based on his voting record. Biden is a close third.

America needs the next president to be closer to the center. McCain is about as close as you can get without being a democrat.

334 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:26pm

Is it too late to call my senators abut H.R. 1424?

335 Spiny Norman  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:26pm

re: #311 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I'm confused. They're going to vote on H.R. 1424, which contains the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, and also contains Energy Improvement and Extension Act of 2008? Also the Tax Extenders and Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008. WTF?

Welcome to the Congress of the United States.

336 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:30pm

re: #330 galloping granny

From your keyboard to God's ears because we cannot undo nationalizing our banking industry, our mortgage industry, Wall Street and our auto industry.

Hear, Hear!

337 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:50pm

re: #293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And here goes the idiots comparing Palin to Quale....

I feel exceeding pessimistic tonight....BO is gonna win and we're fucking doomed.

Don't lose hope, PulPat. Still five more weeks to go, and anything can happen. If we get too down then we lose our focus and drive, and right now McCain/Palin need all the focus and drive prayers/good thoughts/vibes we can send them.

338 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:26:57pm

re: #323 JacksonTn

At this this point, I wish McCain would just vote against it and go all in.

He isn't going to. He is trying to demonstrate that he can work both sides of the aisle and be "non partisan." Too bad.

339 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:27:23pm

re: #315 galloping granny

The last I heard, Congress approval rating was in the 9-12% range. Where did the other 12 or so points go? No opinion?

Chicago dead voters... they never answer the phone when polled.

340 BBev  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:27:41pm

re: #327 galloping granny

We are now a fire every last one of the SOBS republic.

Amen,

341 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:28:08pm

re: #307 ploome hineni

..............or a wax

Big difference there. Wait, what do you normally drink?

342 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:28:23pm

re: #298 looking closely

DJIA? Whassat?

343 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:28:34pm

re: #313 Intrepid

I'm voting for Obama/Biden because Senator Joe Biden has a really high IQ. I know this because he told us. And because his oratory skills are so good that he thinks he can cure wheelchair bound men just by calling for them to "stand up, stand up, Chuck, so they can see ya!"

I'm voting for Biden because Biden spoke of President Franklin Roosevelt’s having gone on television after the stock market crash of 1929. But Roosevelt was not president in 1929, and television was not present.

344 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:28:39pm

re: #332 nyc redneck

i had the "half empty' problem this afternoon.
it's going around. LOL
we can't let the enemy break our spirits tho.
we have to get right back up.
we will prevail.

I know, but I am still stocking up on food and growing my own produce....we are in for a rough ride, financially, even with the bailout.

But I'm not out of the markets yet. Call me a bottom feeder,if you will, but this market is like a great sale at Neiman Marcus!

345 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:28:52pm

o'reilly is going to do a segment on the 'Children of the Corn Choir".

346 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:29:37pm

re: #342 Intrepid

DJIA? Whassat?


Dow Jones Industrial Average.

Or were you being sarcastic?

347 Caboose  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:29:54pm

Term limits! Term limits! Term limits! TERM LIMITS!

348 seekeroftruth  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:29:58pm

I can't understand the big hoopla over "the next great depression" and an emergency bill when they are loading it up like a baked potato with very expensive pork.
The Politico reported that Dems already tucked a mega-billion dollar mental health care provision to the bill:

349 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:30:36pm

re: #303 Tigger2005

There's quite a few manic depressives around here, I have to say!

There's a solution for that!

Have a drink.

Can we have a "WNDT"? I feel in need of a few belts right about now.

Not depressed here, just having all the air bubbles shaken out so I can become more solid.

350 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:30:51pm

I wonder if a gal like me could actually beat Kay Bailey? I have no college, but tons of real life experience.

351 JCM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:30:55pm

EXCELLENT!

Controversial DVD on Islam delivered with newspaper

The DVD title “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West” was getting circulated by a nonprofit group called The Clarion Fund.
352 Defogger  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:06pm

I'm voting for Obama because he's for change. Nickels, pennies, dimes -- that sort of thing. After all, the dollar isn't worth crap, now.

353 joekowalski247  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:11pm

I'm voting Democrat because: The media seems to like this guy and there usually right about things like this

354 Spiny Norman  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:40pm

re: #288 Tigger2005

By the way, I've written this letter that I'm planning to give (anonymously), along with other material, to neighbors with Obama signs. What do y'all think?

It's very good, but if you do, I expect the Obama Truth Squad to file criminal charges against you. Good luck.

355 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:48pm

re: #346 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Dow Jones Industrial Average.

Or were you being sarcastic?

No, I spaced on that one. I kept thinking "Democrat..." or "Defense..."

I'm used to seeing it as "DOW". heh.

356 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:48pm

If this financial "crisis" was so bad, why are politicians on both sides tacking on pork to this bill?

357 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:52pm

re: #342 Intrepid

DJIA? Whassat?

Dow Jones Industrial Average.

358 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:31:59pm

I'm voting Democrat, because my parents always did, and it was always assumed growing up that Democrats were good and Republicans were fat cat crooks; and because almost all my friends are Democrats, so, well, it seems like, you know, the thing to do.


/this was almost me
359 Wishing  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:32:00pm

So ok, the Dems have fattened this crap bill...NOW>..will the Reps vote for or against it? WILL THEY LET THE DEMS HANG? or will they cross the aisle and vote with em.
I wanna puke.
There are no leaders anymore, they are all empty suits.
And if McCain votes FOR this bill, i will hang his empty suit in the same closet as the Zero.

360 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:32:05pm

re: #338 galloping granny

He isn't going to. He is trying to demonstrate that he can work both sides of the aisle and be "non partisan." Too bad.

Aaaarrrrggghhhh it's maddening. How can he claim to be against pork, how can he say he's going to veto any pork that crosses his desk, and still vote for this bill? Why do you make this so hard, McCain? Could you please explain to me why it's so urgent that we have to pass a horrible bill? I thought we were supposed to be in a Depression already if a bill didn't past last Monday.

361 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:32:16pm

re: #321 FrogMarch

77% of congress needs to be flushed down the toilet.
I'm talking about--
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Chuck Schumer
Chris Dodd
et al

These creeps are making our founding fathers spin.

I hate congress, but love my congressman. That's the mantra you'll hear time and time again as crooks, creeps, and the ethically challenged win election after election.

That's how William Cold Cash Jefferson remains in office.
That's how Schumer remains in office despite being involved in the illicit use of credit information in the Michael Steele campaign in Md.
That's how Charlie Rangel remains in office despite being a repeat offending tax cheat.
That's how the Kennedys keep getting reelected.
Dodd remains a fixture in Congress.
Stevens is a crook, and yet Alaskans would keep voting for him.
NJ sends Menendez and Lautenberg.
You can go up and down the list.

362 imtoast  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:32:34pm

re: #247 galloping granny

ACORN collects money under HOPE - and that was in there on the version the house turned down.

Lizards - better try to get through to the Senate switchboard again and write your Senators.

My senator is barbara boxer. It would be a sheer waste of time.

363 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:32:35pm

re: #354 Spiny Norman

It's very good, but if you do, I expect the Obama Truth Squad to file criminal charges against you. Good luck.

Notice I said, "anonymously."

364 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:33:09pm

re: #344 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I know, but I am still stocking up on food and growing my own produce....we are in for a rough ride, financially, even with the bailout.

But I'm not out of the markets yet. Call me a bottom feeder,if you will, but this market is like a great sale at Neiman Marcus!

i'm stocking up too. getting ready for a long winter.
i'm not out of the market either. but i never played it loose. i always had the 'safe stuff'. i admire anyone who can take advantage of the sale atmosphere. why not?

365 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:33:27pm

re: #360 Tigger2005

Aaaarrrrggghhhh it's maddening. How can he claim to be against pork, how can he say he's going to veto any pork that crosses his desk, and still vote for this bill? Why do you make this so hard, McCain? Could you please explain to me why it's so urgent that we have to pass a horrible bill? I thought we were supposed to be in a Depression already if a bill didn't past last Monday.

I wish that McCain would grow a pair.

366 JCM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:33:48pm

re: #356 Racer X

If this financial "crisis" was so bad, why are politicians on both sides tacking on pork to this bill?

Why do pigs roll in the mud?

It's the nature of the beast, see bill, tack on pork.

367 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:34:27pm

I'm going to vote Democrat because, like, everyone I know will be voting Democrat.

368 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:34:43pm

re: #364 nyc redneck

i'm stocking up too. getting ready for a long winter.
i'm not out of the market either. but i never played it loose. i always had the 'safe stuff'. i admire anyone who can take advantage of the sale atmosphere. why not?


Oh, the retirement account and 401k are in a very diversified set of mutual funds....but the little bit of fun money I have I'm using to buy equities.

369 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:35:07pm

re: #348 seekeroftruth

I can't understand the big hoopla over "the next great depression" and an emergency bill when they are loading it up like a baked potato with very expensive pork.
The Politico reported that Dems already tucked a mega-billion dollar mental health care provision to the bill:

They are using this manufactured crisis to scare us into literally becoming a socialist country. Not to mention get a whole crapload of junk that would never pass scrutiny by themselves because it so all-fired vital to pass this think without any scrutiny at all. Not a single hearing. No public comment period. Not even enough time for the public to read the damned bill.

The goddamned Congress are our frigging representatives, not our rulers and sure as hell not our dictators!

370 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:35:42pm

re: #362 imtoast

My senator is barbara boxer. It would be a sheer waste of time.

Who is running against her?

371 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:36:21pm

re: #345 newsjunkie_ky

o'reilly is going to do a segment on the 'Children of the Corn Choir".

yay, that should scare the hell out of a lot of people.
it is insidious that the obamanation is adored as the messiah.
just too wacky. it is beyond the pale.
"our dear leader"

372 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:36:35pm

re: #358 Occasional Reader

I'm voting Democrat, because my parents always did, and it was always assumed growing up that Democrats were good and Republicans were fat cat crooks; and because almost all my friends are Democrats, so, well, it seems like, you know, the thing to do.

That did happen to me. Thank God I got out.

373 BBev  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:36:36pm

re: #348 seekeroftruth

I can't understand the big hoopla over "the next great depression" and an emergency bill when they are loading it up like a baked potato with very expensive pork.
The Politico reported that Dems already tucked a mega-billion dollar mental health care provision to the bill:

I was just going to comment on that, If this is going to be a bail out make it just that and NOTHING ELSE,

374 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:36:53pm

re: #312 looking closely

No good.
Alcohol is a depressant.
/Have some lithium instead.

and if that doesn't work, there's always AUMMMMMMMMMMMM..........
(or OMMMMMMMMMMM..........)

/think navel

375 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:36:56pm

re: #363 Tigger2005

Notice I said, "anonymously."

Make sure you have it printed somewhere else. Or buy yourself a $29 printer and immediately send it off to the dump when you are done printing.

376 seekeroftruth  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:37:19pm

re: #369 galloping granny

Unbelievable..... can't tell you how angry I am.

377 willowone  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:38:44pm

re: #376 seekeroftruth
furious

378 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:39:00pm

I'm going to vote Democrat because I despise Palin who isn't like Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton at all. I mean..puhleeze...Palin won't need a face lift until she's 90. Where's the equality in THAT?

379 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:39:12pm

re: #376 seekeroftruth

Unbelievable..... can't tell you how angry I am.

You and me and 300 or so million other people. Ninety percent of the American public tells them no go so they are going to shove it down our throats anyway? How DARE they? HOW DARE THEY?!

380 seekeroftruth  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:39:21pm

re: #373 BBev

I was just going to comment on that, If this is going to be a bail out make it just that and NOTHING ELSE,

That exactly what is being discuss in my household. Completely agree!

381 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:39:30pm

I am trying to call my Senators and register my opinion but I can't even get their voicemail. Have they shut down the switchboard already?

382 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:39:30pm

oooooooo, Dennis Miller is on Bill O...

383 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:39:49pm

re: #372 ciaospirit

That did happen to me. Thank God I got out.


Me too.

384 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:40:17pm

re: #381 Tigger2005

I am trying to call my Senators and register my opinion but I can't even get their voicemail. Have they shut down the switchboard already?

Try their local offices. Or their campaign headquarters. Email.

385 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:40:21pm

re: #361 lawhawk

I hate congress, but love my congressman. That's the mantra you'll hear time and time again as crooks, creeps, and the ethically challenged win election after election.

That's how William Cold Cash Jefferson remains in office.
That's how Schumer remains in office despite being involved in the illicit use of credit information in the Michael Steele campaign in Md.
That's how Charlie Rangel remains in office despite being a repeat offending tax cheat.
That's how the Kennedys keep getting reelected.
Dodd remains a fixture in Congress.
Stevens is a crook, and yet Alaskans would keep voting for him.
NJ sends Menendez and Lautenberg.
You can go up and down the list.

Indeed. It's insanity. it makes me weep for this nation.

386 BBev  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:40:25pm

re: #378 rightymouse

I'm going to vote Democrat because I despise Palin who isn't like Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton at all. I mean..puhleeze...Palin won't need a face lift until she's 90. Where's the equality in THAT?

you forgot the sarc/ tag

387 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:41:10pm

re: #368 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Oh, the retirement account and 401k are in a very diversified set of mutual funds....but the little bit of fun money I have I'm using to buy equities.

my husband lost some money. the exact amt. that he was going to use to buy me the little jeep patriot i wanted. lol. so, i like my old truck a lot. big deal.

388 Spiny Norman  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:41:33pm

re: #369 galloping granny

They are using this manufactured crisis to scare us into literally becoming a socialist country. Not to mention get a whole crapload of junk that would never pass scrutiny by themselves because it so all-fired vital to pass this think without any scrutiny at all. Not a single hearing. No public comment period. Not even enough time for the public to read the damned bill...

Bingo.

Who were the communist college profs who wrote the book on that tactic?

389 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:42:30pm

re: #387 nyc redneck

my husband lost some money. the exact amt. that he was going to use to buy me the little jeep patriot i wanted. lol. so, i like my old truck a lot. big deal.

I'm down 28%, ouch, but my time horizion is long.

390 Wishing  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:43:04pm

has mccain said ANYTHING about this bill?

391 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:43:10pm

Gotta cook dinner for the rug rats...it's breakfast for dinner tonight! Yummy!

392 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:43:22pm

re: #371 nyc redneck
obamayouth!

393 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:43:27pm

re: #378 rightymouse

I'm going to vote Democrat because I despise Palin who isn't like Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton at all. I mean..puhleeze...Palin won't need a face lift until she's 90. Where's the equality in THAT?

ROFL! Not to mention, I think I've seen Palin in pants once during the 34 days she's been on the national scene. And unlike Pelosi, Sarah can actually show facial expressions.

394 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:43:28pm

re: #386 BBev

you forgot the sarc/ tag

Don't need one on this thread? We've been playing with the theme most of the thread.

395 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:43:29pm

So John, are you still a proponent of this bailout bill? Even with all the pork that has been added? Put up or shut up John.

396 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:44:19pm

re: #369 galloping granny

They are using this manufactured crisis to scare us into literally becoming a socialist country. Not to mention get a whole crapload of junk that would never pass scrutiny by themselves because it so all-fired vital to pass this think without any scrutiny at all. Not a single hearing. No public comment period. Not even enough time for the public to read the damned bill.

The goddamned Congress are our frigging representatives, not our rulers and sure as hell not our dictators!

it is really frightening how they are trying to frighten us. i agree w/ you.
this 'bail out' is being rammed thru too fast.

397 JCM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:44:20pm

re: #389 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm down 28%, ouch, but my time horizion is long.

IIRC correctly any 7 year period over the last 110 years in the stock market, the market went up. The long view.

398 CapeCoddah  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:44:43pm

re: #321 FrogMarch

77% of congress needs to be flushed down the toilet.
I'm talking about--
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Chuck Schumer
Chris Dodd
et al

These creeps are making our founding fathers spin.

Please don't leave Barney Frank off that list, et al not withstanding, we need to get his ass out of that seat here in Massachusetts. He is one of the biggest offenders in this, and in many other ways, too. How a twit like that heads the committee he does is just astounding. We could elect any small business owner/ respected member of the community to any of the seats now held by this den of thieves,the house and senate, and get people who understand economics, from the ground up, not to mention a clearer outlook on everything else. Most of the current congress has never had a real job. They are really not that bright if you listen very closely. These seats were supposed to be held by such people, in the Constitution, it was never meant to be a career or a dynasty, passed like here in Massachusetts, from Kennedy to Kennedy. It will go to Joe Kennedy II, Ted's nephew when Ted dies. we will have really no say. We let that get away from us a long, long time ago. You were supposed to serve your term, and come back and return to your business, or to your life, and other would go and do the same. We let our congress be taken out of our hands gradually, over a century or more. We allowed it to become corrupted. People need to realize what a much better system the original plan is, a much more honest system, and certainly makes more sense, to have well known, respected local people represent their districts, for a short period of time. In this amazing technology age, there is no reason to have to lose touch with or track of what our elected officials are doing. If we went back to our congress members being who they were meant to be, and we ALL paid attention, like we were all meant to,life would be much simpler for all Americans pertaining to the workings of Washington DC.

399 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:44:57pm

re: #361 lawhawk

I hate congress, but love my congressman. That's the mantra you'll hear time and time again as crooks, creeps, and the ethically challenged win election after election.

That's how William Cold Cash Jefferson remains in office.
That's how Schumer remains in office despite being involved in the illicit use of credit information in the Michael Steele campaign in Md.
That's how Charlie Rangel remains in office despite being a repeat offending tax cheat.
That's how the Kennedys keep getting reelected.
Dodd remains a fixture in Congress.
Stevens is a crook, and yet Alaskans would keep voting for him.
NJ sends Menendez and Lautenberg.
You can go up and down the list.

We need to vote every single incumbent anywhere in the nation out of office on November 4. ALL OF THEM. "Good" ones, "bad" ones, or indifferent ones. Those that have been there one term and those that have been there a lifetime.

Our government needs a great big huge message about just exactly who they work for!

400 Eyes of Blue  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:45:15pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'm dead!

401 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:46:22pm

re: #397 JCM

IIRC correctly any 7 year period over the last 110 years in the stock market, the market went up. The long view.


Well, I do this (retirement planning) for a living. All of my clients who are close to retirement are in nice, conservative investments (govt notes, etc.) I'm not seeing alot pf panic from my clients....just general concern over the bail out.

402 Racer X  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:46:23pm

re: #400 Eyes of Blue

I'm voting Democrat because I'm dead!

LOL!

You win!

403 JCM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:46:26pm

re: #396 nyc redneck

it is really frightening how they are trying to frighten us. i agree w/ you.
this 'bail out' is being rammed thru too fast.

Bail out = Porkers-R-Us

404 Knitwit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:46:32pm

re: #350 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Go for it!

405 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:46:52pm

re: #399 galloping granny

We need to vote every single incumbent anywhere in the nation out of office on November 4. ALL OF THEM. "Good" ones, "bad" ones, or indifferent ones. Those that have been there one term and those that have been there a lifetime.

Our government needs a great big huge message about just exactly who they work for!

NOOOOOOO! bruce lunsford is a very bad man. Mitch McConnell has to win.

406 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:47:08pm

re: #398 CapeCoddah

BARNEY FRANK.

The guy shouldn't only be voted out - he should be frogmarched out in an orange jump suit.

407 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:47:18pm

re: #400 Eyes of Blue

I'm voting Democrat because I'm dead!

WINNER!

408 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:47:48pm

re: #393 Intrepid

ROFL! Not to mention, I think I've seen Palin in pants once during the 34 days she's been on the national scene. And unlike Pelosi, Sarah can actually show facial expressions.

It's been refreshing to see Palin look like a woman should instead of some mannequin for sure.

409 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:48:01pm

re: #369 galloping granny

They are using this manufactured crisis to scare us into literally becoming a socialist country.

Um, no.

One can think of perfectly good reasons to opposed the bailout bill without launching into this kind of hyperbole.

410 JCM  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:48:25pm

re: #401 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Well, I do this (retirement planning) for a living. All of my clients who are close to retirement are in nice, conservative investments (govt notes, etc.) I'm not seeing alot pf panic from my clients....just general concern over the bail out.

Yep the closer to retirement move to conservative investments. The economic fundamentals are pretty sound. It's just this ARTIFICIALLY created problem, and the FEAR mongering around it. The will cause the ripples to spread.

411 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:48:50pm

re: #400 Eyes of Blue

I'm voting Democrat because I'm dead!

[doffs hat]

412 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:48:55pm

I really have to cook dinner now. BBL

413 CapeCoddah  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:49:14pm

re: #406 FrogMarch

BARNEY FRANK.

The guy shouldn't only be voted out - he should be frogmarched out in an orange jump suit.

They all should, most of them should be under arrest. Just on principle.

414 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:49:23pm

Wednesday, October 01, 2008
The Corner.

List of Earmarks, etc… [Rich Lowry]

…apparently in the bailout bill (based on a list going around). Pretty outrageous. Isn’t this in John McCain’s wheelhouse?

New Tax earmarks in Bailout bill
- Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502)
- Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503)
- 6 page package of earmarks for litigants in the 1989 Exxon Valdez incident, Alaska (Sec. 504)

Tax earmark “extenders” in the bailout bill.
- Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)
- American Samoa (Sec. 309)
- Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310)
- Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311)
- Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312)
- Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315)
- Railroads (Sec. 316)
- Auto Racing Tracks (317)
- District of Columbia (Sec. 322)
- Wool Research (Sec. 325)

415 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:49:23pm

re: #405 newsjunkie_ky

NOOOOOOO! bruce lunsford is a very bad man. Mitch McConnell has to win.

Everyone says that about their own congresspeople. That is just exactly why we need to vote them ALL out.

416 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:49:52pm

O'Reilly is playing that creepy hitler youth Obama youth video.

I'm all puked out.

417 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:49:59pm

re: #400 Eyes of Blue

I'm voting Democrat because I'm dead!

or a dog, or mickey mouse, or because i'm getting a case of "old mil" from acorn.

418 rightymouse  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:50:00pm

re: #412 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I really have to cook dinner now. BBL

Later! I'm going to wander off to the telly now soon meself.

419 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:50:13pm

re: #409 Occasional Reader

Um, no.

One can think of perfectly good reasons to opposed the bailout bill without launching into this kind of hyperbole.

You better go look at the 450 page "bill" - and listen to more than a few Congresspeople who are saying just exactly the same thing.

420 Tigger2005  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:50:23pm

re: #384 galloping granny

Try their local offices. Or their campaign headquarters. Email.

Well, good news, when I tried to e-mail Claire McCaskill (who is the Truth Squad-Missouri leader btw), I got a message that the server was too busy. It did go through the next attempt though.

421 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:51:28pm

re: #410 JCM

Yep the closer to retirement move to conservative investments. The economic fundamentals are pretty sound. It's just this ARTIFICIALLY created problem, and the FEAR mongering around it. The will cause the ripples to spread.

The real panic amongst the older set, are with those who didn't save, or started saving too late...most have a tendancy to go aggressive in the attempt to catch up and they are now freaking out because they are tanking.

The lesson here, and one I teach my kids (who have to save 10% of their allowance) is to start saving early....even if it's just 15 or 20 dollars a week. The rule of 72 does work.

422 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:52:11pm

re: #387 nyc redneck

my husband lost some money. the exact amt. that he was going to use to buy me the little jeep patriot i wanted. lol. so, i like my old truck a lot. big deal.

nycrn -

Finance it - Bet ChryCo is offering great terms. Have your dealer "buy" your old truck instead of "trade" it. Take the money on the "sale" - bank it - and make your payments out of that fund - enjoying what is probably way better fuel economy "for free" for awhile. By that time, your 401 might look like a 523 or 675. Never short the USA for more than about a year or two. Empires of the Sun and 1000 Year Reichs have learned that lesson - THE HARD WAY.

-S-

423 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:52:13pm

re: #419 galloping granny

You better go look at the 450 page "bill"

You read it all? And you confirm that it places all means of production in the hands of the state?

424 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:52:13pm

re: #392 newsjunkie_ky

obamayouth!

Hey News!
How are you?
I think somebody should go through the thread and pick up all the best ' I'm voting democrat because' posts..
great stuff..

425 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:52:25pm

Some thoughts from Glenn on taking our country back.

If Obama and the democrats win - I'm making some life changing changes.

426 BBev  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:53:23pm

re: #388 Spiny Norman

Bingo.

Who were the communist college profs who wrote the book on that tactic?

Banks are going to fail because of the investments they made I'm sorry but I could give a crap. All these companies made many millions of dollars ( well from the looks of it billions ) and now they want to put it the backs of you and I, at some point the shit is going to hit the fan if not know it will be soon there after. My trust in the government of the US has dropped quit a bit in the past month.

427 gettinby  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:54:38pm

re: #368 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Oh, the retirement account and 401k are in a very diversified set of mutual funds....but the little bit of fun money I have I'm using to buy equities.

I'm using my fun money to buy more ammo.

428 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:54:43pm

re: #400 Eyes of Blue

I'm voting Democrat because I'm dead!

I'm voting democrat because ACORN has taken my name and turned it into 20 different anagrams.

429 galloping granny  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:55:34pm

re: #423 Occasional Reader

You read it all? And you confirm that it places all means of production in the hands of the state?

I did not read it all. Nobody can digest all of it in this short a period of time. I did read every single word of the bill that failed in the House. That nationalized a huge chunk of our banking/mortgage industry. And of course that $700 billion is less than half of what "we" have been passing out in the last two weeks. He who controls the banks controls the means of production.

430 looking closely  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:55:50pm

re: #342 Intrepid

DJIA? Whassat?

Dow Jones Industrial Average

431 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:56:17pm

re: #422 Dr. Shalit

nycrn -

Finance it - Bet ChryCo is offering great terms. Have your dealer "buy" your old truck instead of "trade" it. Take the money on the "sale" - bank it - and make your payments out of that fund - enjoying what is probably way better fuel economy "for free" for awhile. By that time, your 401 might look like a 523 or 675. Never short the USA for more than about a year or two. Empires of the Sun and 1000 Year Reichs have learned that lesson - THE HARD WAY.

-S-

hey doc, thank you for your kind advice.
my truck is worthless. no trade in value. it gets incredible gas mileage because it's a diesel. i love it. home made flag wired to the grill and all. i do want the jeep tho.
i may get it yet. thanks {doc}

432 lummox  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:56:30pm

Every politician should serve only two terms.

One in office,

one in prison.

433 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:56:57pm

If McCain were smart...

I hope the man grows some smarts and fast.

434 Eyes of Blue  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:57:11pm

Off to dinner now everybody! I love this site! See you tomorrow.

435 marsl  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:57:49pm

I'm voting democrat because... because non-Americans should be listened in deciding America's future.

/sarc

436 mich-again  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:58:03pm

Odd how I keep hearing that President Bush's approval rating is at its lowest level yet, at 28% but those same reports always fail to mention that Congress' approval rating is down to 10% which puts them somewhere between Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden.

437 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:58:27pm

re: #429 galloping granny

"He who controls the spice controls the universe!"

438 Wishing  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:00pm

I AM gonna puke...matter of moments

439 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:32pm

re: #427 gettinby

I'm using my fun money to buy more ammo.


I have plenty and my boy friend is a retired Marine...:)

440 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:33pm

umm, i'm voting democrat, because umm, well like because Obama, he is like a umm a good person, for the planet and stuff, and all US Americans will be better off, and umm future generations of mankind will not have as many mean countries with bombs and stuff like that.

441 imtoast  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:38pm

re: #370 galloping granny

Who is running against her?

She won in 2006 so she's not up.

442 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:42pm

re: #424 HoosierHoops

Hey News!
How are you?
I think somebody should go through the thread and pick up all the best ' I'm voting democrat because' posts..
great stuff..

I agree. The best one I read was 'because I'm dead'. Made me laugh.
I'm doing better. It will take time.

443 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:59:50pm

re: #438 Wishing

I AM gonna puke...matter of moments

[hands Wishing a barf-bag.]