Yes!

Patching is done for tonight.

Where's Render?

Wow, tough crowd.

So, I was pounding nails into my skull this morning...

RE: The bailout;

Tax cuts for wooden arrows, that's what's important, did I get a tax cut for wooden arrows?

/Need to know if I need to start making wooden arrows.

Fark photoshop contest. I post as "chickyraptor" over there. I try to counter the prevailing moonbatism over there when I can.

So I'll pass along my really bad pun that I came up with this evening. NOTE: Please place sharp objects way out of reach, just in case.

Q: What was the role of the bomber pilots during Gulf War I?

A: It was a sheikh-rattlin' role!

/ducks and runs like hell

re: #6 Abu Al-Poopypants

Fark photoshop contest. I post as "chickyraptor" over there. I try to counter the prevailing moonbatism over there when I can.

The only time I've ever commented on fark threads was to call the moderators chickenshit for deleting a photoshop entry entitled "John Kerry's Bukake Dream". Darned if they didn't delete that too.

Tomorrow is a new day.

It could be a good day.

A happy day.

Goodnight all.

Obama Youth Go On Genocidal Rampage in Venice, CA

re: #5 Rancher

I know this is a repeat but Wooden arrows? Even I can make wooden arrows. That's got to be a joke

Charles, I have a question: why is it that when I put my Ibook to sleep at night (with LGF still open on my menu bar), when I bring LGF back up in the morning, the individual ICONs are gone, and there are only little green footballs? I'm still shown as logged in, so I don't know why the individual icons have disappeared.

Well, after I got 5 votes on mine, they killed my post because it "bypassed the filters", so I had to repost it too small to read and you have to click on it to see it full size. One time I got banned for 3 days for accusing the moderators of having a Mall Cop mentality.

re: #5 Rancher

RE: The bailout;

Tax cuts for wooden arrows, that's what's important, did I get a tax cut for wooden arrows?

/Need to know if I need to start making wooden arrows.

Isn't market protectionism wonderful? We won't have buy cheaper arrows from desperately poor countries!

Hurrah for the domination of smart markets over sweatshops, which may be the only option for anything other than abject poverty for those people.

The world we live in. At least my arrows will be union made, rather than inexpensive.

Countdown to October surprise... tick.. tick..

re: #14 really grumpy big dog johnson

the good news is it doesn't take much to make your own, the bad news is unless you have a bow without training wheels it won't do you much good

re: #2 pink freud

Where's Render?

I haven't seen him in a long time. I'd like to know also, has he been around and I missed him?

re: #15 Mel Lono

Countdown to October surprise... tick.. tick..

That's tonight when Sarah crashes and burns.

holy smokes....it's October 1st!
What a surprise!

/need a real 1.

re: #13 Abu Al-Poopypants

Well, after I got 5 votes on mine, they killed my post because it "bypassed the filters", so I had to repost it too small to read and you have to click on it to see it full size. One time I got banned for 3 days for accusing the moderators of having a Mall Cop mentality.

In this instance, I think I can see why they had a problem with it. I mean, you used "Barack" in a non-reverential tone. Surely banning for life would be kind, much less how easy you got off.

/need I?

The world has gone mad. We have a rising tide of fascism in europe and 0bama in America. We are being sold lies everyday on tv and in the papers. And our elected officials do nothing but play politics with our lives and our futures. What are decent, hard working, individual rights loving people to do?

What was the consensus everywhere on the moderating fiasco?

re: #11 srb1976

I know this is a repeat but Wooden arrows? Even I can make wooden arrows. That's got to be a joke

No it's not,look at this.

New Tax earmarks in Bailout bill
- Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502)
- Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503)
- 6 page package of earmarks for litigants in the 1989 Exxon Valdez incident, Alaska (Sec. 504)
Tax earmark “extenders” in the bailout bill.
- Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)
- American Samoa (Sec. 309)
- Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310)
- Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311)
- Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312)
- Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315)
- Railroads (Sec. 316)
- Auto Racing Tracks (317)
- District of Columbia (Sec. 322)
- Wool Research (Sec. 325)

Via HotAir

re: #22 TheMatrix31

What was the consensus everywhere on the moderating fiasco?

Like it or lump it.

re: #21 Sharmuta

What are decent, hard working, individual rights loving people to do?

Help others.....and if you can't do that, at least don't hurt anybody.

re: #20 suboptimal

I'll sing 3 verses of "Sing For Change" as penance.

re: #17 gop_patriot

I haven't seen him in ages, gop, and I read many of the threads in their entirety, especially the late night ones he used to frequent.

Someone mentioned his absence a week or so ago, and this was posted in response, with no explanation.

re: #26 Abu Al-Poopypants

I'll sing 3 verses of "Sing For Change" as penance.

I can't wait for the next hit, "0bama Uber Alles".

re: #21 Sharmuta

Yup...Neofascists, Obamabots, and Islamonuts. And we're caught in the middle.

The only thing we can do right now is do whatever we can to help McCain-Palin win.

Well back to work tomorrow after the two days of Rosh Hashana to reflect on the important things in life--family, health, and friends. I work as a financial advisor and the past few weeks have been really rough-reminds me of the time period after 9-11. No one had a clue then either if we were going to live or die. We had the shoe bomber, the mysterious plane crash above Brooklyn ( a shoe bomb IMHO) anthrax and a total market meltdown. Here we are today. Life goes on, people fight the good fight. I prayed hard for McCain and Palin, which isn't a particularly Jewish thing to do, as well as praying for a dear friend with three beautiful kids who just had a brain tumor successfully removed . We are up against a monster who controls the media and things look pretty bleak. Don't give up! If we lose this round, there will be more.

re: #11 srb1976

It's real: Bailout with 'sweeteners' heads toward Senate win

And there were plenty of obscure tax breaks to go around, like one for certain wooden arrows used by children, and another benefiting litigants in the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill.

re: #31 Rancher

Bailout with 'sweeteners' heads toward Senate win

Nutrasweet, Splenda or Sweet & Low?

re: #23 x-wing

Wow! I couldn't have made up something more ridiculous than that!

on the other hand, my bow is a youth sized bow.....wonder if that counts
(trying to find a bright side)

re: #27 pink freud

Render doesn't want to be here anymore.

re: #27 pink freud

Oh yeah I think I saw that too. He is helping out over at that blog, is alive and well but just doesn't have the time to post here, I think?

Thanks for reminding me, I was getting worried. Again. Hopefully this time I'll remember and won't randomly start to worry again in the future. LOL

re: #21 Sharmuta

The world has gone mad. We have a rising tide of fascism in europe and 0bama in America. We are being sold lies everyday on tv and in the papers. And our elected officials do nothing but play politics with our lives and our futures. What are decent, hard working, individual rights loving people to do?

so what's your problem with all that?

/white smoke

(my advice to you is to start drinking heavily. %-)

re: #31 Rancher

It's real: Bailout with 'sweeteners' heads toward Senate win

Was there anything in there for middle aged haole residents of East Honolulu?

/What, I'm not elite?

re: #34 Sharmuta

Oof, didn't know that. Thanks. Just thought he was busy elsewhere.

re: #34 Sharmuta

Thanks for that info, sharm. He contributed so much to my knowledge; I will miss him.

re: #36 redc1c4

Redc - can I ask what "white smoke" means?

I've seen it lots, but have never understood what it means.

:-)

Is there any way to identify which of these pinheads attached these stupid riders to the bill?

re: #28 suboptimal

I can't wait for the next hit, "0bama Uber Alles".

Jerry Brown & Jello will both sue for infringement.

re: #33 srb1976

Wow! I couldn't have made up something more ridiculous than that!

on the other hand, my bow is a youth sized bow.....wonder if that counts
(trying to find a bright side)

LOLO, I know, why do keep paying these idjits in D.C.?

I'm not sure it's the size of the bow,as much as how straight you shoot with it.

/I don't know where I'm going with that :>}

re: #32 Abu Al-Poopypants

i did not know you could make sugar from congressional PORK.

Consumer confidence is up in September, says Brit Hume. And the last growth report remains positive.

So why did Barack Obama flay John McCain alive when McCain said "the basics of our economy are still sound"?

Perhaps Obama should take a course on economics. Even with 6.1 percent unemployment, we're very close to full employment.

Obama sucks.

re: #38 gop_patriot

re: #39 pink freud

Render knows I wish him well. He also knows I completely disagree with his reasons, yet he persists. All I can do is wish him the best and let him go his own way.

re: #43 x-wing

I won my class at an archery tournament once, I was the only one in my class, but i got a trophy anyway. Don't claim to shoot straight though.

re: #40 Intrepid

Redc - can I ask what "white smoke" means?

I've seen it lots, but have never understood what it means.

:-)

from the now legendary "404 SOI Extract" as promulgated by RTO Trainer
A little shorthand of potential help to us in communicating intent:

Smoke and Pyro

White Smoke---Covering/Screening only
Yellow Smoke---Designated target (Fire at will)
Purple Smoke---All after is sarcastic
Green Smoke---Kook Identifed
White Star Cluster---All Clear
Yellow Star Cluster---Cease-fire
Red Star Cluster---Danger

Some Examples:

Red says something smart and instead of "ducking," pops white smoke and disengages.

Anyone needing assistance might designate a post (or a thread in the subject line) with yellow smoke.

Prior to typing a sarcastic remark, "pop purple smoke." When removing tounge from cheek, send up a White Star Cluster.

Green star clusters would probaly be most effective for the person on SGT Casey's duty roster with an addition to a subject line.

Yellow star clusters used to designate a friendly under fire or to initiate compromise under a misunderstanding.

Red star custer, any kind of warning.

it is/was a Usenet thing.......

re: #12 Intrepid

Let me rephrase that: Why are the individual posters' avatars gone when I bring LGF up from sleep mode in the morning? I am still shown as being logged in....

Just wondering.

re: #42 redc1c4

Jerry Brown & Jello will both sue for infringement.

I'm pretty sure Jello's endorsed the "Big 0", so it will be his first serious take on that song.

re: #37 IslandLibertarian

Was there anything in there for middle aged haole residents of East Honolulu?

No, sorry Bruddah.

/5-O talk.

re: #49 Intrepid

I believe we're auto logged out after 6 hours. So it might say you're logged in, but I bet if you refresh the page, you won't be.

re: #46 Sharmuta

well, give him my regards too.

it's a free country, at least until 20JAN09. %-)

re: #45 Intrepid

So why did Barack Obama flay John McCain alive when McCain said "the basics of our economy are still sound"?

And then came out 2 weeks later and said the same thing, except in a halting fashion that seemed to suggest that the teleprompter upload from David Axelrod's mainframe was slow that day.

re: #49 Intrepid

Let me rephrase that: Why are the individual posters' avatars gone when I bring LGF up from sleep mode in the morning? I am still shown as being logged in....

Just wondering.

we're hiding from you.....

Had a bad night with a lefty. After I slammed Obama on his ignorance, she asked me who controlled McCain, The Manchurian Candidate. I had no answer.

re: #45 Intrepid

You did hear that Obama now says that once we pass this bailout, the fundamentals of this economy(i.e. working Americans) will kick in and bring us out of this mess?

/you can't make this stuff up

re: #56 pat

Had a bad night with a lefty. After I slammed Obama on his ignorance, she asked me who controlled McCain, The Manchurian Candidate. I had no answer.

No one controls a maverick.

re: #51 Rancher

HOW About exit papers you racist colonialist

purple smoke

re: #48 redc1c4

Heh - I am not blond, but feel as if I am now.

:-)

re: #56 pat

How dare you question the wisdom of the Manchurian Community Organizer. You will be hearing from Security Minister Ayers once they seize power.

re: #48 redc1c4

Where does Purple haze come in?

re: #47 srb1976

I won my class at an archery tournament once, I was the only one in my class, but i got a trophy anyway. Don't claim to shoot straight though.

LOL, were you in the blind in one eye and can't see out the other class? Just kidding
Or as Red has shown us

/purple smoke

re: #48 redc1c4

So Stinky's got a lot of green smoke?

re: #52 Sharmuta

I believe we're auto logged out after 6 hours. So it might say you're logged in, but I bet if you refresh the page, you won't be.

When I bring LGF back up in the morning, I hit the new comments button, and it gives me new comments, but still shows me as logged in. I can still post on that thread, but I only get the "avatar" pics on the next thread after moving up.

I don't mind it, I was just wondering....

:-)

re: #58 Sharmuta

No one controls a maverick.

Wish that were true, but he is robotic and plain silly. As in infantiley ignorant of what is happening. The 'friends' shit and robotic hand movements are a bit much. I am not alone. Everyone is talking about it. These people are not his friends. Obama is not his colleague. Biden already said he always hate him.

re: #62 Mel Lono

Where does Purple haze come in?

About mile 3 on a hard run. The 9 min version. Excellent.

re: #61 Abu Al-Poopypants

How dare you question the wisdom of the Manchurian Community Organizer. You will be hearing from Security Minister Ayers once they seize power.

Oh we discussed that also.

re: #63 x-wing

Close! Apparently women's traditional is not a popular class in tournaments, go figure. Note that I'm not saying I shot well by any stretch! = )

re: #56 pat

Had a bad night with a lefty. After I slammed Obama on his ignorance, she asked me who controlled McCain, The Manchurian Candidate. I had no answer.

you should have said "Sarah".....

after all, she's a mom. %-)

i recently asked a liberal who they will hate after this election i think the next target for liberal hate will be VPOTUS PALIN. we already see it coming from the feminazi's who seem to hate her with a un-natural level of political hate. P.D.S. = B.D.S.

re: #55 redc1c4

we're hiding from you.....

Green smoke.

heh

re: #66 pat

I think you might be spending too much time with liberals. I'm not wild about McCain either, but he's what we've got.

Besides- voting for someone on superficial grounds is juvenile. I agree with most of McCain's substance. Kick corruption in the ass and supply our own energy. He's got my vote.

OT.. oh wait there isn't one. I've been on/near this trail. It's beautiful country.
God rest his soul now. No body yet.

Fossett found

re: #65 Intrepid

When I bring LGF back up in the morning, I hit the new comments button, and it gives me new comments, but still shows me as logged in. I can still post on that thread, but I only get the "avatar" pics on the next thread after moving up.

I don't mind it, I was just wondering....

:-)

That's OK - I've been in techie hell for the last six days or so - after last Friday night's debate topics, something went horribly wrong and I have not been able to browse to LGF until late tonight! Talk about withdrawal - I've been going crazy trying every techie thing I could think of (every other web site worked OK...). Finally I was at a different location and therefore different network and was able to get LGF and send an SOS. After I got home and back on Concast, I could finally get LGF back. YAY! I am so happy - except when I think about the bailout :( Charles, if you had anything to do with fixing things for me - or even if you didn't ;) - THANK YOU!

re: #69 srb1976

Close! Apparently women's traditional is not a popular class in tournaments, go figure. Note that I'm not saying I shot well by any stretch! = )

I must apologize. Your gender escaped me. You have my respect for taking up the sport. I love to see women with bows and guns,and know how to use them.

have a great evening every one

re: #74 Mel Lono

OT.. oh wait there isn't one. I've been on/near this trail. It's beautiful country.
God rest his soul now. No body yet.

Fossett found

saw that earlier..... in a slightly different form. they also supposedly found a fleece shirt/jacket.

very strange.

damn, the Khmer Obama kiddies have been pulled from youtube

Obama's gonna change the woooooooooorld!
yes we can can can yes we can can can

re: #74 Mel Lono

OT.. oh wait there isn't one. I've been on/near this trail. It's beautiful country.
God rest his soul now. No body yet.

Fossett found

I'm active in the Civil Air Patrol, and there are rare times when a lost plane is never found or is found years later. There was one incident about ten years or so ago (before my time in CAP, so I may be off on timing) in the eastern US where nothing was ever found during an intensive search, and then about two years ago, a hunter walked into a forest clearing and there were the remains of that plane... When the crash site is in the mountains or large forests and there are no eyewitnesses, it can really be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

re: #76 x-wing

No sweat! I'm a bit better shot with my .45 than my bow anyway

After hearing about wooden arrows and wool research, the Nikkei was down 1.9% and the Hang Seng fell 1.4%.

re: #78 redc1c4

And a bunch of cash. Who goes on a short flight with lots of $100's except to buy gas, maybe?

re: #66 pat

Wish that were true, but he is robotic and plain silly. As in infantiley ignorant of what is happening. The 'friends' shit and robotic hand movements are a bit much. I am not alone. Everyone is talking about it. These people are not his friends. Obama is not his colleague. Biden already said he always hate him.

Uhm, the "robotic hand movements" stuff is because of his wounds. Deal with that as you will.

I agree that John needs to come out and hit Obama and hit him hard, and now that the senate has passed this bill, I'm believing he will.

But he will not put his own campaign over the good of the country! And this bill, as flawed as it is, is in the best interest of the country.

It's flawed, yes. But it will keep our credit flow going, and small businesses will stay in business if it passes.

re: #83 Mel Lono

And a bunch of cash. Who goes on a short flight with lots of $100's except to buy gas, maybe?

Pilots are crazy ;)

re: #66 pat

Wish that were true, but he is robotic and plain silly. As in infantiley ignorant of what is happening. The 'friends' shit and robotic hand movements are a bit much. I am not alone. Everyone is talking about it. These people are not his friends. Obama is not his colleague. Biden already said he always hate him.

his arms, and the rest of his body, are fucked up from years of torture and you think less of him because of that?

the "everybody" who are "talking about it" are all dumber than dirt, and so is anyone who spreads such guavno.

re: #79 spidly

damn, the Khmer Obama kiddies have been pulled from youtube

Still up there.

re: #87 Abu Al-Poopypants

Still up there.

That gives me the creeps....

re: #81 srb1976

No sweat! I'm a bit better shot with my .45 than my bow anyway

Stop teasing me. M1911 is my favorite handgun

re: #80 TnTx13

I'm active in the Civil Air Patrol, and there are rare times when a lost plane is never found or is found years later. There was one incident about ten years or so ago (before my time in CAP, so I may be off on timing) in the eastern US where nothing was ever found during an intensive search, and then about two years ago, a hunter walked into a forest clearing and there were the remains of that plane... When the crash site is in the mountains or large forests and there are no eyewitnesses, it can really be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

or the one here recently in CA where hikers found the wreckage of a training flight from 42-43, because the snow/ice melted enough.....

re: #89 x-wing

Ruger P-90 stainless with hogue grips...big fun

On Fox, Bill Sammon said, "The republicans want Palin to be Palin, but the democrats want Biden to not be Biden".

Heh.

re: #89 x-wing

Stop teasing me. M1911 is my favorite handgun

ever fired a Dan Wesson .445 Super Magnum? %-)

re: #90 redc1c4

or the one here recently in CA where hikers found the wreckage of a training flight from 42-43, because the snow/ice melted enough.....

Wow - hadn't heard about that one - Mother Nature can deal some bad hands to us, can't she?

re: #90 redc1c4

or the one here recently in CA where hikers found the wreckage of a training flight from 42-43, because the snow/ice melted enough.....

at least the family got to bury the pilot finally.

0bama Uber Alles
-with apologies to bite me Jello Biafra

I am Sen-a-tor 0bama
Hoping for economic trauma
So I can be pre-si-dent

George Bush will soon go 'way
I will seize power and stay
I will command all of you
Your kids will worship me in school
Your kids will worship me in school

[Chorus]
0bama Uber Alles
0-ba-ma U-ber Alles
Uber Alles, 0bama
U-ber Alles, 0-ba-ma

Civilian security force will appear
You'd better watch your rear
Say anything bad about me
Free is one thing you won't be

Close your eyes can't happen here
I am your leader dear
Rationing all around
You're gonna starve you little clown
You're gonna starve you little clown!

[Chorus]

Now it's dark, just after four
Knock-knock on you front door
It's the NOI secret police
You've quietly disturbed the peace

Come quietly to re-education
So you can serve the 0bamanation
Don't worry it's just for an hour
And while you're here you get a quick shower

DIE on organic greenhouse gas
It's methane straight from a cow's *ss
You will die, and so will your mama
When you mess with pres 0bama
When you mess with pres 0bama

[Chorus]

--end

I now await the banning stick.

I love Chesterton. He was an inspiration to C.S. Lewis and one of the best writers of the 20th century:

"Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten."

re: #91 srb1976

Ruger P-90 stainless with hogue grips...big fun

Kimber compactII black with glo-sites.

/starting to feel like Tackleberry in Police Academy

About these polls- I don't believe them. Zogby has 0bama up by 2 nationally, so I have to think the other polls are padding the number of democrats to republicans. I also wonder if any PUMAs getting polled are lying.

If they are padding these polls, it is to demoralize our side. We must use these numbers to double our efforts instead. Hopefully, that's what we'll do and these numbers will have the effect of lulling the dems into a comfort zone where they won't work as hard as we will.

But if we know one thing, it is this- the msm and their fellow travelers are not above lying to the public. I don't believe their polls.

re: #93 redc1c4

ever fired a Dan Wesson .445 Super Magnum? %-)

No, bet that kicks like a mule. I've got a Dan Wesson 357mag. very comfy gun.

re: #21 Sharmuta

Wait.

re: #98 x-wing

I actually bought my husband a P-90 for his birthday, and he bought me a matching one for christmas so he could get his back = )

re: #83 Mel Lono

And a bunch of cash. Who goes on a short flight with lots of $100's except to buy gas, maybe?

maybe he meant to fly south?

Henry?

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Hi, Killgore, did you have a good time on your trip?

re: #99 Sharmuta

As I recall, Zogby usually polls likely voters, whereas the other pollsters often sample registered voters or Americans.

re: #102 srb1976

I actually bought my husband a P-90 for his birthday, and he bought me a matching one for christmas so he could get his back = )

Sounds like a smart man. So what state do you guys live in,with you being an archer and such?

Polls are used to manipulate, not Zogby so much but allot of others. They are really worthless until just before the election.

re: #105 Abu Al-Poopypants

As I recall, Zogby usually polls likely voters, whereas the other pollsters often sample registered voters or Americans.

I remember various discussions from 2004 that indicated that the day (or evening) of the week when the poll was taken can also affect how many Republicans or Democrats are actually reached at home (some party more than others:) )!

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Thanks.

re: #103 redc1c4

Got my leg kicking!

re: #104 gop_patriot

I still have a few days left here in Mauritius. Yesterday was Eid (a national holiday here) so I went to a Muslim neighbourhood for Briani Lamb and came home to watch the Eid programs on while drinking Gin and tonics. I'm going to spend my last few days reading and lounging on the beach.

re: #106 x-wing
We're in alabama now, moved here from Las vegas though

re: #109 Sharmuta

Sorry, my african dialup account is too slow for youtube.

re: #100 x-wing

No, bet that kicks like a mule. I've got a Dan Wesson 357mag. very comfy gun.

well, lets just say that if you're at a range that will let you fire, the wonder 9's all stop after you touch off the first round, and 44 anything is cheap practice ammo. %-)

yes.... mine is a very nice gun too. better than my Python, which is not junk.

HRH has grown fond of her (formerly mine) High Power.....

it's a small price to pay. (domestic tranquility. %-)

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Sounds wonderful. Enjoy the beach for me!

Apropos to this election:

"By the Babe Unborn" by G.K. Chesterton

If trees were tall and grasses short,
As in some crazy tale,
If here and there a sea were blue
Beyond the breaking pale,

If a fixed fire hung in the air
To warm me one day through,
If deep green hair grew on great hills,
I know what I should do.

In dark I lie; dreaming that there
Are great eyes cold or kind,
And twisted streets and silent doors,
And living men behind.

Let storm clouds come: better an hour,
And leave to weep and fight,
Than all the ages I have ruled
The empires of the night.

I think that if they gave me leave
Within the world to stand,
I would be good through all the day
I spent in fairyland.

They should not hear a word from me
Of selfishness or scorn,
If only I could find the door,
If only I were born.

re: #113 Killgore Trout

It's Samwise Gamgee talking about the Tales That Really Matter.

I really don't understand all this registered voters/likely voters thing.

In Australia every citizen over 18 is registered to vote. And voting is compulsory. And the polls are a lot more reliable than in the US.

re: #105 Abu Al-Poopypants

As I recall, Zogby usually polls likely voters, whereas the other pollsters often sample registered voters or Americans.

Exactly. There are a lot of ways to manipulate these polls, and the "registered" over "likely" is one of the more frequently used ploys.

re: #118 Crux Australis

I really don't understand all this registered voters/likely voters thing.

In Australia every citizen over 18 is registered to vote. And voting is compulsory. And the polls are a lot more reliable than in the US.

Well- in America we don't make people vote. So a registered voter is not the same as a likely voter since being registered to vote doesn't mean you actually will vote. But a likely voter is obviously someone who is likely to vote and a better indicator in terms of polling.

re: #117 Sharmuta

;)

re: #118 Crux Australis

I really don't understand all this registered voters/likely voters thing.

In Australia every citizen over 18 is registered to vote. And voting is compulsory. And the polls are a lot more reliable than in the US.

that's because, like many things here, voting is a right, not a duty.

people don't have to vote, and often don't....... doesn't stop them from bitching afterward though.

if people don't see their duty, what's the point of forcing it upon them?

re: #112 srb1976

We're in alabama now, moved here from Las vegas though

What do you hunt?

My son passed his hunters safety course and he was so proud of hmself. I took him out to the range a few times and he seems to like shooting shotguns at claybirds more than a rifle at targets,so I'm going to try and get him out for Pheasant and Turkey.
I don't really mid that because I'm not really wild about sitting in the woods in winter waiting on a deer to walk by.
BTW I'm from Pa.

I got polled yesterday by Obama's campaign. Short and sweet, they asked how likely I was to vote, who I would vote for, and how strongly I felt for that candidate. No BS, it must have been an internal poll. Those I would love to see.

re: #124 Rancher

you must be someplace they're worried about.... i live in the belly of the beast (SoCal) and the local vote is a foregone conclusion.

re: #123 x-wing

I'm not a hunter myself, we spend a lot of family time at the range and have a seven acre lot to play on. My dad (who lives right down the road) mostly goes after deer (they tend to be smallish here) and feral pig. our local national forest opened a no limit season on feral pigs as they were getting to pesky. basically, 4 weeks of shoot all you can find

re: #124 Rancher

I got polled yesterday by Obama's campaign. Short and sweet, they asked how likely I was to vote, who I would vote for, and how strongly I felt for that candidate. No BS, it must have been an internal poll. Those I would love to see.

What did you tell them?

re: #114 redc1c4

well, lets just say that if you're at a range that will let you fire, the wonder 9's all stop after you touch off the first round, and 44 anything is cheap practice ammo. %-)

yes.... mine is a very nice gun too. better than my Python, which is not junk.

HRH has grown fond of her (formerly mine) High Power.....

it's a small price to pay. (domestic tranquility. %-)

I understand, If it let's you keep doing what you like it's worth it.

I got lucky, my ex only cost me a nice fishing rod. Well not only, but ..

I suppose that people should just shut up and not complain about anything if they don't vote. They have a right to if they do.

re: #129 Crux Australis

I suppose that people should just shut up and not complain about anything if they don't vote. They have a right to if they do.

That sums up my theory pretty nicely

I should apologize for my earlier despair. It's not like me. But.... I've lost my Johnny Cash CD, and I really could cry over that.

re: #123 x-wing

When we had the ranch we would get up around five, go to where the deer we watched all year were, get out of the truck, shoot one, dress it and be back home by nine. Now you have to win the lottery just to get to hunt and the public areas are crawling with hunters. Assholes that bought our ranch reneged on letting us hunt on the private land.

If Obama gets elected, we're all gonna get POLED, if you know what I mean.

re: #127 Sharmuta

Very likely to vote, very likely to vote McCain. Very likely was the strongest answer, they wouldn't accept guaranteed.

It's going to push 100F tomorrow in Sydney. Crazy for October I think. But for all of next week it's back into the 70's.

re: #132 Rancher

the mill that I work at has quite a bit of land set by that they let employees hunt. Mostly deer and dove, and deer are bow only, but at least you know where everyone else is

re: #126 srb1976

I'm not a hunter myself, we spend a lot of family time at the range and have a seven acre lot to play on. My dad (who lives right down the road) mostly goes after deer (they tend to be smallish here) and feral pig. our local national forest opened a no limit season on feral pigs as they were getting to pesky. basically, 4 weeks of shoot all you can find

Feral pigs. Does that equal wild Boar? I did hear a state did declare open season on them because those little bastards destroy anything and everything.

re: #134 Rancher

Very likely to vote, very likely to vote McCain. Very likely was the strongest answer, they wouldn't accept guaranteed.

I would have been tempted to lie to them, but I'm evil like that.

re: #129 Crux Australis

George Carlin on voting

I may not vote this time. The republicans picked a lousy candidate who openly admits to not understanding anything about economics during an economic crisis. He then picked a lousy vp with almost no executive experience and no understanding of economics or foriegn policy. I have no love for McCain, Palin, or the republicans. The election is theirs to lose and if they do lose they have nobody to blame but themsleves.

re: #137 x-wing

Feral pigs are pigs who started out domestic, but have been living wild and mixing with wild pigs for a generation or 3. Not exactly the same, but they can still get pretty nasty.

And yeah, the reason they started letting people hunt them is because they were destructive to the point of being pests.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

KT - are u channeling?

re: #135 Crux Australis

It's going to push 100F tomorrow in Sydney. Crazy for October I think. But for all of next week it's back into the 70's.

it's been high 90's/100's here in the SFV hte past few days, and more humid than usual, which sucks, but that's not unusual (heatwise, anyway) for Septober, no matter *what* the transplants say......

re: #132 Rancher

When we had the ranch we would get up around five, go to where the deer we watched all year were, get out of the truck, shoot one, dress it and be back home by nine. Now you have to win the lottery just to get to hunt and the public areas are crawling with hunters. Assholes that bought our ranch reneged on letting us hunt on the private land.

That sucks. Around here all the farmers are posting their land and wont let anyone on them. We have guys at work that are leasing land(extorsion) in the mountains just for a place to hunt.

Guys are getting fed up and discussing giving it up. Really sad.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

George Carlin on voting

I may not vote this time. The republicans picked a lousy candidate who openly admits to not understanding anything about economics during an economic crisis. He then picked a lousy vp with almost no executive experience and no understanding of economics or foriegn policy. I have no love for McCain, Palin, or the republicans. The election is theirs to lose and if they do lose they have nobody to blame but themsleves.

sounds more like the Democratic ticket.....

what's in the water down there?

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Missing link: George Carlin on voting

re: #131 Sharmuta

I should apologize for my earlier despair. It's not like me. But.... I've lost my Johnny Cash CD, and I really could cry over that.

Well, sometimes you just have to hear yourself say it out loud- and that reminds you that no, you're not a defeatist!

And about the CD, I know how you feel. I felt that way once when someone left my Eagles Greatest Hits cassette in the back window of my car and it melted in the summer heat.

re: #141 Mel Lono

No, I just fortot to insert the link.

re: #143 x-wing

That sucks. Around here all the farmers are posting their land and wont let anyone on them. We have guys at work that are leasing land(extorsion) in the mountains just for a place to hunt.

Guys are getting fed up and discussing giving it up. Really sad.

which is the intent all along...... so why do you need a gun if you don't hunt?

Now there's the "November 4 Voting Simulator", which only lets you vote for Barack Obama.

** rolling eyes **

re: #144 redc1c4

sounds more like the Democratic ticket.....

That's what I thought!

re: #136 srb1976

the mill that I work at has quite a bit of land set by that they let employees hunt. Mostly deer and dove, and deer are bow only, but at least you know where everyone else is

And they let them hunt for free? Lucky guys. The mill I work for used to do that, now they charge or not let you hunt at all.

What for job do you do?

re: #149 gmsc

Now there's the "November 4 Voting Simulator", which only lets you vote for Barack Obama.

** rolling eyes **

If Obama's elected, that will be what the voting machine looks like in 2012.

/sarc (but only slightly)

re: #152 gop_patriot

If Obama's elected, that will be what the voting machine looks like in 2012.

/sarc (but only slightly)

Remember, voting against Obama is both racist and blasphemous!

re: #151 x-wing

I worked in the chem lab in a steel mill. As part of our environmental program they keep a fairly large plot of land as wildlife area. I don't think they charge anything for hunting it....some fairly strict rules but that's it.

re: #154 srb1976

I worked in the chem lab in a steel mill. As part of our environmental program they keep a fairly large plot of land as wildlife area. I don't think they charge anything for hunting it....some fairly strict rules but that's it.

worked....work, sorry

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Well then, George and I agree on this then. Didn't vote for Arnold, can't vote for McCain. And I'll have something to show for it on Nov.4!

re: #146 gop_patriot

I watched Walk the Line this last weekend, and I've really wanted to listen to Cash since then, and days later I still can't find my Best of CD. I'm not happy about this. :(

re: #154 srb1976

I worked in the chem lab in a steel mill. As part of our environmental program they keep a fairly large plot of land as wildlife area. I don't think they charge anything for hunting it....some fairly strict rules but that's it.

O.k. I was thinking a paper mill,like me. So is it the state or the feds forcing your company to do this environmental thingy?

re: #150 gop_patriot

McCain said during the debates that he doesn't understand economics and I believe him. I think it was a serious mistake to nominate a candidate right now that admits he doesn't understand economics. I think it really hurt him. I think Obama has a faulty understanding of economics but he has never said he's completely ignorant on the topic. I think McCain would have done better to pick somebody like Bloomberg as VP. He has executive experience and is a rockstar econimist. I don't think Palin helps with independants and swing voters. Just my 2 cents. We'll know for sure in November, I'd love to be proven wrong.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

I think McCain would have done better to pick somebody like Bloomberg Steve Forbes as VP. He has executive experience.

enough worrying about the re: #155 srb1976

w*rked....w*rk, sorry

quit using obscenities!

/white smoke

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Um Palin has 8 years more executive experience than everyone else on both tickets combined.

re: #160 Mel Lono

I'm not a huge Forbes myself but you're right; He would have been a great asset to the ticket.

re: #158 x-wing

Not really forcing, there's permits and emission limits and all that, but the company is pretty out front on the environmental thing on their own. Being a steel mill, electricity is a big hitter on the bottom line, so energy conservation means more money to be made. Most of the other efforts fall into the same line of thinking too.

re: #162 Neo Con since 9-11

Yes, she has a lot of experience as a small town mayor. I don't think that helps her much in the minds of swing voters.

re: #156 Mel Lono

Well then, George and I agree on this then. Didn't vote for Arnold, can't vote for McCain. And I'll have something to show for it on Nov.4!

you realize that *not* voting for McCain is the same as voting for Obama, even here in CA, since they all important "national total" will be trotted out if the anointed one doesn't win in the Electoral College, but gets more votes. overall.

and don't tell me you don't see a difference between the two.

re: #163 Killgore Trout

I'm especially fond of a flat tax, but it never got much traction. Back then, if the mortgage deduction had been eliminated, would we be where we are now? hmm/

re: #159 Killgore Trout

McCain is the one to appeal to independents and moderates. He needed to shore up the base, and that's what Sarah did.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Bloomberg would have tanked with the conservative wing - Palin energized them.

Let's see how it all plays out. Obama doesn't know shit about the economy either, and neither does Joe Biden.

Sarah is on stage in about 18 hours. Her moment is coming.

It's up to her - as long as the McCain camp sets her free, she'll do ok.

No worries.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Obanal doesn';t know shit about anything..... i've got a Persian cat with a better grasp of reality than the chosen one.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

He must have said that before he died.

/Yogi Berra

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Where was your vacation location, again? I forgot. And how did it go?

re: #166 redc1c4

Well, you stole my thunder, but we still are a republic and in the PRC, my vote does not count. I stand on principle. That's the way it is,until we go to a national popular vote. Gore still thinks he won, but all he got was a stupid Nobel Prize.

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Wasilla is the 5th largest city in Alaska, and as such the mayor of this "small" town has spent plenty of time in Juneau defending her "small town"'s interests. Hell Wasilla dwarfs my village here in Ohio. Insulting small towns is not a path to victory. And welcome back from Africa

re: #153 gmsc

Remember, voting against Obama is both racist and blasphemous!

You mean we are allowed to vote AGAINST Obama?

/more sarc

re: #164 srb1976

Not really forcing, there's permits and emission limits and all that, but the company is pretty out front on the environmental thing on their own. Being a steel mill, electricity is a big hitter on the bottom line, so energy conservation means more money to be made. Most of the other efforts fall into the same line of thinking too.

Do you generate your own electric or buy? We are self sufficient on that,we even sell some back to the grid. And you don't have to tell me about permits and regs. We have this guy from the state EPA that would like nothing better than to shut us down. The prick. Even though we built a dam in 1970 and donated land for the state to open a park.

re: #169 Intrepid

re: #168 Sharmuta

Then why is McCain still behind in the polls? I think he's very likely to lose in November. If he wins I will happily admit that I'm wrong.

re: #175 TnTx13

You mean we are allowed to vote AGAINST Obama?

/more sarc

You mean we're allowed to vote?

And with that it's 3am here, the boy who would not sleep finally crashed, and I think I will follow his example. Night folks!

re: #177 Killgore Trout

re: #168 Sharmuta

Then why is McCain still behind in the polls? I think he's very likely to lose in November. If he wins I will happily admit that I'm wrong.

McCain is behind in the polls because the polls are all bogus.

re: #173 Mel Lono

Well, you stole my thunder, but we still are a republic and in the PRC, my vote does not count. I stand on principle. That's the way it is,until we go to a national popular vote. Gore still thinks he won, but all he got was a stupid Nobel Prize.

you still have to get out and vote down all the bond issues...... ~$45Billlion worth at the state level alone.

that and yes on gay marriage. why shouldn't they be as unhappy as the rest of us?

re: #176 x-wing

We don't generate electricity we use LOTS, buying interuptible(no idea how to spell that one) from the TVA. Basically they can shut us down anytime they need to, but it's lots cheaper.

re: #177 Killgore Trout

re: #168 Sharmuta

Then why is McCain still behind in the polls? I think he's very likely to lose in November. If he wins I will happily admit that I'm wrong.

1) the polls are full of shit. Zogby has the race much closer.
2) because the msm is in the tank for 0bama and not playing fair.
3) this is pretty much the same thing we saw in 2000 & 2004- it's not over yet.

Ok, good night for real this time

re: #181 redc1c4

No question there. All the props, local reps etc. Just not John.

re: #179 srb1976

Nite, thanks for the chat.

re: #180 zombie

my eyes!

re: #177 Killgore Trout

I hate McCain and would have voted for him only if NM was in play the day of the election. Now I will vote, and vote early, for Sarah. I never bought into the meme that nominating McCain would get us independent and liberal votes, and I didn't like the fact that the MSM pushed him on us.

re: #181 redc1c4

that and yes on gay marriage.

yeah right

re: #159 Killgore Trout

I was going to reply to this, but I'm just too tired and my post wasn't making any sense, so I gave up. :p

Now get your ass back here and vote for McCain.

jk ;)

re: #177 Killgore Trout

re: #168 Sharmuta

Then why is McCain still behind in the polls? I think he's very likely to lose in November. If he wins I will happily admit that I'm wrong.

You believe the polls, when we are 34 days out? You seriously are following the polls?

I thought you were smarter than that, Killgore.

Sheesh.

re: #172 zombie

I'm still in Mauritius for a few more days. The culture here is very interesting and the people are very unique. I visited a Dravidian temple the other day. It's the oldest religion in the world that's still practiced. On the surface in almost indestiguishable from Hinduism. The Muslims aren't very friendly to Westerners, I was thown out of a mosque last week and a man selling extremist DVD's outside a mosque refused to let me buy them. Other than that everyone is pretty friendly and the women are slim and very beautiful.

re: #180 zombie

Could be. We'll know for sure in November but I remember the koskidz refused to believe the polls last election and they were completely surpised and befuddled that they lost.

I just browsed through Michelle Malkin's site and in the comments there are a lot of defeatist attitudes visible. The ones that have that seem to have problem with McCain not fighting tooth and nail against Ifill being moderator in VP-debate. That angers me for a few reasons. First, doing that would paint McCain campaign as whiners. Complaints tend to do that regardless of how valid said complaints are. Second, there is no room for you guys to have defeatist attitude. Not in these elections.

Over the years I have seen time and time again elections that were not free, and two things have stuck to my mind about them. One, there were tampering on voters and/or ballots one way or another. Two, media access was not equal and fair. And I say that both of those are visible already in these elections. You (I am Finn, so those are not my elections) can't give in and fall into despair. You can't allow that sort of tactics to work. You have to fight against it throughout as individual citizens (and state has to do that too), and at the voting booth you must show that those tactics are not the way to victory. To me it seems painfully clear that large number of Democrats have discarded the notion of free elections. Media certainly has. They need to learn a lesson that you guys won't allow it.

Ok. This is my opinion on the matter. Play straight, play hard and keep your spirits high.

P.S. To make clear why I care: 1) I Think McCain would be best choice for USA's sake, for my sake (yeah, my ass means a lot to me) and my US and Israeli friends' sake. 2) You guys deserve better than have your country fall to same category as Russia in regards to the elections.

re: #192 Killgore Trout

I visited a Dravidian temple the other day. It's the oldest religion in the world that's still practiced.

Especially since the Branch Dravidians burned up in WACO.

re: #173 Mel Lono

Well, you stole my thunder, but we still are a republic and in the PRC, my vote does not count. I stand on principle. That's the way it is,until we go to a national popular vote.

As an Obama supporter, don't you feel uncomfortable here?

I live in the most left-wing area imaginable. Wherever you are, it's worse where I am. I have never ever, not even once, seen a McCain sign. I'm surrounded by Obama Blue off to the horizon. And I'm in a state where Obama is supposedly up by double digits.

And you know what? I'm going to go into that voting booth and vote for McCain like my life depended on it. For all I know, the polls are all propaganda, and there are ten million secret McCain voters like me secretly casting our ballots. Anything is possible.

Hopefully, not too many of them will be like you and not vote because you believed the MSM propaganda and assumed ahead of time your vote will not count.

re: #191 Intrepid

I thought you were smarter than that, Killgore.

Think again.

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Wow, unfriendly Muslims..the hell you say.

/purple smoke

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Think again.

Ok, I guess I will.

re: #196 zombie

That's a good point. I thought 2000 showed us that a handful of votes could turn an election.

Besides- the Presidency is not the only issue on the ballot. There are seats for Congress and local elections too. Mel- you should go vote.

re: #194 Purre

there is no room for you guys to have defeatist attitude. Not in these elections.

I completely agree with this sentiment. It helps no one and serves no purpose other than to discourage others from voting.

Btw, you have the world's cutest avatar.

:)

I don't know if Mel should get yellow smoke or green.

re: #196 zombie

zombie - i respect you and have followed your work. I choose not to vote for Sen. McCain as a matter of conscience. I made this decision 4 months ago, when none of my conservative picks made the grade. It is no secret here. I will not detail the list again, but he does not represent me or my ideals for what I think is right for the country. Come what may.

re: #192 Killgore Trout

I'm still in Mauritius for a few more days. The culture here is very interesting and the people are very unique. I visited a Dravidian temple the other day. It's the oldest religion in the world that's still practiced. On the surface in almost indestiguishable from Hinduism. The Muslims aren't very friendly to Westerners, I was thown out of a mosque last week and a man selling extremist DVD's outside a mosque refused to let me buy them. Other than that everyone is pretty friendly and the women are slim and very beautiful.

I recently saw a movie filmed in Mauritius (a Bollywood sex comedy) about three beautiful Indian stewardesses all dating the same guy in Mauritius.

I have a friend who lived on the beach in Mauritius for a while. Said it was great! He also recommended going to the interior to see the mountains and the views.

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Think again.

maybe you should?

re: #194 Purre

Thanks.

re: #193 Killgore Trout

Could be. We'll know for sure in November but I remember the koskidz refused to believe the polls last election and they were completely surpised and befuddled that they lost.

No, you got that completely reversed. They absolutely thought the polls were true. Remember that all the pollsters (except Zogby) had Kerry ahead on the final day. THAT's why the Kossacks were shocked. Not because they "refused" to believe in the polls, but because they accepted them unquestioningly.

I'm off to bed. I'm sick and damned tired of all the nay-sayers and doom and gloom bringers. We're still 33 days out from the election, and some folks here have just given up. Or have allowed their distaste for the economic bill to sour their mood.

I, for one, will not be distracted. I believe in America, and I will not sit by and let Barack Obama to come in and steal my freedoms.

So take that, Killgore. I believe in America, even if you don't. Enjoy the rest of your holiday.

re: #203 Mel Lono

OK- you stand by your principles then. However- I don't want to hear a single complaint from you about President 0bama.

re: #196 zombie

In 1980, weren't there states that people were surprised went for Reagan?

I was not quite 14 years old at the time and I don't remember...

re: #209 Sharmuta

OK- you stand by your principles then. However- I don't want to hear a single complaint from you about President 0bama.

(these are my principles: and, if you don't like them, i have others. %-)

re: #204 zombie

I spent some time in the interior earlier this week. Fatastic waterfalls and mountain scenery. There's also a big lake where they built a large Hindu temple with a 70 foot tall Shiva statue. They make an annual pilgramage there once a year. Very cool. I'd love to be a beach bum here for a decade or two but it's just not in my budget right now. I'm saving up my money to survive 8 years of Obama.

re: #209 Sharmuta

Actually, I'll be the first one complaining. I have that right, even if I didn't vote for his opponent.

re: #202 Sharmuta

I don't know if Mel should get yellow smoke or green.

Well we could throw some yellow and see if he brings the GAZE.

re: #208 Intrepid

Enjoy the rest of your holiday.

Will do.

re: #209 Sharmuta

OK- you stand by your principles then. However- I don't want to hear a single complaint from you about President 0bama.

O.K. we're throwing yellow smoke. :>}

re: #213 Mel Lono

Actually, I'll be the first one complaining. I have that right, even if I didn't vote for his opponent.

then we'll have to go with the duct tape option.......

pick a side. there's no standing on the sidelines this time.

White Star champagne on ice, then./

Doesn't anyone care about Obama's new regiment of brainwashed little Leftist Teenagers?

re: #209 Sharmuta

--snip-- ... President 0bama.

That makes me want to run screaming from the room.....

re: #211 redc1c4

(these are my principles: and, if you don't like them, i have others. %-)

LOL, it looks like we may have a party started.

re: #213 Mel Lono

This ain't a frickin' purity test. This is about keeping America out of the hands of a frickin' marxist. You want to be a part of the problem or the solution? Or are you one of thoes people who thinks we have it coming?

re: #219 DesertSage

Doesn't anyone care about Obama's new regiment of brainwashed little Leftist Teenagers?
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I mean, first they brainwash the 5 years olds, now the teenagers.

Oh..my..gawd.....

Considering that Congress has an approval rating of about 9%, 'twould be an interesting turn of events if Obama took the White House, but the Republicans took back Congress.

re: #201 gop_patriot

Hehe. Thank you. I have on another forums this same avatar with the additional text: "Mine is an evil laugh!" Yep, I liked Firefly. There is also the penguin avatar that I made out of this picture.

For the record, we have communal elections this autumn here, and I was happy to get my notification two days ago. So now I know where and when I can vote. I haven't missed a single vote and I won't ever if it is up to me.

re: #203 Mel Lono

zombie - i respect you and have followed your work. I choose not to vote for Sen. McCain as a matter of conscience. I made this decision 4 months ago, when none of my conservative picks made the grade. It is no secret here. I will not detail the list again, but he does not represent me or my ideals for what I think is right for the country. Come what may.

Well, if we get Obama, you have only yourself to blame.

The election is not about getting your dream date. The election is about staving off disaster. By not voting for McCain, you are actively stating that you prefer Obama to win. Which is your prerogative, of course, but it's odd that you're an Obama supporter and don't seem to be aware of it.

The competition is not between some fantasy candidate you wish had been nominated vs. McCain. There is this thing called reality and in reality you have two imperfect choices; McCain and Obama. If you seriously, honestly think that Obama is better, or if they are absolutely identical, then by all means refrain from voting McCain. But if you think McCain is even 1% better than Obama, and yet you still refuse to vote for him because you're pouting, then I have nothing further to say to you.

I don't mean to be harsh, but I don't have time for pouters.

hahaha

Look at the front page of FoxNews.com- it's the "My helicopter was forced down" story- a pic of a helicopter, Joe Biden with a very goofy expression on his face, and the caption says "Frequent Fliar?"

re: #219 DesertSage

Doesn't anyone care about Obama's new regiment of brainwashed little Leftist Teenagers?
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I mean, first they brainwash the 5 years olds, now the teenagers.

Holy shit!

re: #219 DesertSage

Doesn't anyone care about Obama's new regiment of brainwashed little Leftist Teenagers?
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I mean, first they brainwash the 5 years olds, now the teenagers.

OK, when they start reciting highlights of Obama's health care plan, it is seriously freaked out. Lizards, you ALL need to watch this...

re: #213 Mel Lono

Actually, I'll be the first one complaining. I have that right, even if I didn't vote for his opponent.

Yeah, you have that right because better men than you risked their lives for this country, but your not willing to pull a lever that may save what they fought for .

/thanks alot bud.

re: #221 x-wing

LOL, it looks like we may have a party started.

in that case, i'll get started on the fruitcup! %-)

re: #222 Sharmuta

Not at all. We are the greatest nation on Earth, and will continue to be so long as we remember the principles that this nation was founded upon.

re: #226 zombie

Do you really believe that 10 million conservatives are going to suddenly appear in CA and turn the state Red?

re: #219 DesertSage

Oh my gosh, that's just... just... WOW.

The Alpha-Omega chant is especially disturbing to me, in light of it's Biblical meaning.

Holy crap.

/Plus it's really just awful from start to finish. Totally bad. Our tax dollars at work, huh.

re: #231 redc1c4

in that case, i'll get started on the fruitcup! %-)

I've got some Puerto Rican Rum, if you want to kick things up a notch

re: #28 suboptimal

I can't wait for the next hit, "0bama Uber Alles".

I'm wishing we could upding a post more than once, because seriously...that says it all. And I'm starting to get kind of worried about it. Obama elected into the White House with what he thinks is a mandate from the American people to enact his "change" is rapidly becoming scary as hell.

Please God let Palin kick ass Thursday night. Also, the next five weeks cannot pass quickly enough for me, because at least then I'll know how bad (amnesty for illegals) or worse (socialism) it's going to be.

re: #230 x-wing

Yeah, you have that right because better men than you risked their lives for this country, but your not willing to pull a lever that may save what they fought for .

/thanks alot bud.

Coast Guard veteran. Saved a few lives in my time.

It must be nice to live in a deep blue state. It absolves you from all electoral responsibilities, apparently.

re: #235 x-wing

I've got some Puerto Rican Rum, if you want to kick things up a notch

Need a double shot the way it's going tonight.

re: #233 Mel Lono

Do you really believe that 10 million conservatives are going to suddenly appear in CA and turn the state Red?

Not if they all act like you.

re: #234 gop_patriot

Oh my gosh, that's just... just... WOW.

The Alpha-Omega chant is especially disturbing to me, in light of it's Biblical meaning.

Holy crap.

/Plus it's really just awful from start to finish. Totally bad. Our tax dollars at work, huh.

It also reminds me of something else.

I begin with the young. We older ones are used up but my magnificent youngsters! Are there finer ones anywhere in the world? Look at all these men and boys! What material! With you and I, we can make a new world.
- Adolf Hitler

re: #231 redc1c4

Red, no yellow star for me tonight, please. Got my itch going.

re: #230 x-wing

Yeah, you have that right because better men than you risked their lives for this country, but your not willing to pull a lever that may save what they fought for .

/thanks alot bud.

point of order: Mel is, AFAIK, a Coastie in good standing, and therefore put his on the block with the rest of us. i will strenuously disagree with his philosophy, but i will damn sure defend his right to be wrong.

(after all, he was likely an officer, so it figures. %-)

re: #235 x-wing

I've got some Puerto Rican Rum, if you want to kick things up a notch

i'll use it to cut the everclear....... %-)

re: #225 Purre

That's a hilarious picture!

I found some really cute avatars that people had made over at LiveJournal, but I don't know if they would allow them to be used in other places. I really need to make some more of my own. :)

re: #233 Mel Lono

If Californian conservatives do not start voting now, they will never get that gap closed. Each time the numbers get close to even, more conservatives get activated and gap closure comes more and more possible. So not voting means things will be as tough if not worse in next elections. Every vote matters.

This debate has gone on since it first looked like we would be stuck with McCain. Maybe four years of Obama would be worth sixteen years of Palin/Bush (Jeb) and a conservative congress. Without Jimmah I doubt we would have had twelve years of Reagan/Bush.

re: #241 DesertSage

It also reminds me of something else.

I begin with the young. We older ones are used up but my magnificent youngsters! Are there finer ones anywhere in the world? Look at all these men and boys! What material! With you and I, we can make a new world.
- Adolf Hitler

EXACTLY. Can you imagine what the MSM and Dems would be screaming if there were groups of young people acting like that over McCain or ANY conservative? This is getting really scary...

re: #241 DesertSage

Yes. Scary as hell. The soldier-for-obama aspect is intentionally meant to intimidate.

re: #247 Rancher

This debate has gone on since it first looked like we would be stuck with McCain. Maybe four years of Obama would be worth sixteen years of Palin/Bush (Jeb) and a conservative congress. Without Jimmah I doubt we would have had twelve years of Reagan/Bush.

The only problem with that is the damage that The One can do in just four years...

re: #237 Mel Lono

Coast Guard veteran. Saved a few lives in my time.

Apologies due, Sorry.

I just have a problem with a conservative willing to give this election to Obama.

re: #236 Rose Parade

Expect amnesty regardless.

re: #246 Purre

We did and we do. Tom McClintock got elected to the House, even after his loss to Arnold. He fights the good fight against the odds too in DC. I say again,... Sen. McCain has not and does not support the conservative agenda.

re: #242 Mel Lono

Red, no yellow star for me tonight, please. Got my itch going.

/me pours 3 fingers of single malt, single barrel scotch, water on the side, no ice.

i believe what we are up against is the life/text interface, in that not everything we would convey IRL is carried across the CRT.

re: #238 Sharmuta

It must be nice to live in a deep blue state. It absolves you from all electoral responsibilities, apparently.

“If this is a blessing, it is certainly very well disguised.”

~ Winston Churchill

With Pelosi and Reid running the congress and Obama in the white house...we may not last the next four years!

Egads, I'm so sick of the doom and gloom attitude here! You want Obama to be president? Go ahead and not vote. That's your prerogative.

But for God's sake, don't come on here and spread your crap to the rest of us who still give a shit for this country and our freedoms!

Some of us still believe we can pull this thing out and win in November! After all, we've got more than 30 days to do so.

re: #247 Rancher