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Biden's Big Lie

Politics | Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:54:28 pm PDT

In tonight’s debate, Joe Biden claimed that Barack Obama never said he would meet unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

That was a blatant, shameless lie.

Let’s go to the video, Stinky.

Youtube Video

UPDATE at 10/2/08 8:30:07 pm:

Here’s the list: Biden’s 14 Lies.

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1 Jetpilot1101  10/02/08 7:56:18 pm reply quote

Ouch, that's going to leave a mark.

2 rw in san diego  10/02/08 7:56:51 pm reply quote

Thanks for posting that, Charles. That is one remark he cannot walk away from.

3 stuiec  10/02/08 7:56:59 pm reply quote

Biden was carrying enough botox in his forehead to kill off an entire elementary school.

4 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 7:57:00 pm reply quote

There you have it, folks. The tale of the tape.

5 Catttt  10/02/08 7:57:59 pm reply quote

Huge lie. Once of several huge lies.

Say it ain't so, Joe!

6 Oldasdirt  10/02/08 7:58:11 pm reply quote

Biden sucks moonrocks

7 Intrepid  10/02/08 7:58:27 pm reply quote

Joe's lunch is gonna get eaten tomorrow! Fred just listed several - 5 at least - outright lies from Plugs tonight.

8 stuiec  10/02/08 7:58:28 pm reply quote

Fred Thompson is citing several Biden lies to Chris Wallace on Fox News. Including the clean coal comment to the enviro-wacko and the Bosnia resolution ("I was in the Senate and John McCain was lobbying me to support Clinton on it").

9 Jetpilot1101  10/02/08 7:58:44 pm reply quote

I guess the botox is going to Biden's brain.

Problem is, this will get no play on the MSM.

10 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 7:58:48 pm reply quote

Has Stinky got some of Biden's greatest hits in that vault?
Let's play 'em!

11 LockeOn  10/02/08 7:58:54 pm reply quote

Joe, blindly defending the guy he attacked 6 months ago!

12 jaunte  10/02/08 7:58:59 pm reply quote

It's not like bloviating in the Senate anymore, the cameras and the tapes are running now.

13 Macker  10/02/08 7:59:29 pm reply quote

Biden's ass is fact-checked already! ALL HAIL CHARLES & STINKY!

14 Sharmuta  10/02/08 7:59:43 pm reply quote

The dems really screwed up- they should have put up Hillary. At least she had some sense.

15 Irene NYC  10/02/08 7:59:47 pm reply quote

Chris Wallace just said that, "It may be harder for Tina Fey to mock her on SNL, but Lord knows they'll try."

Good one, Chris.

16 Syrah  10/02/08 7:59:50 pm reply quote

So here I sit half smashed on a bottle of Twisted Zin, feeling really good about the Republican Party now that we have someone like Sarah Palin at the front of our parade.

This is the Republican party that can win! This is the Republican party that can fight for what is right even if it is not PC to talk that way.

Sarah Palin is what I want the Republican Party to be.

McCain & Palin '08!

Tomorrow is payday. Sending them another check!

Yeah!

Feeling good! Oh Happy Day!

Play it loud and dance with me Lizards!

Oh Happy Day!

17 Pshawalaw  10/02/08 7:59:52 pm reply quote

Sarah warned him that his lies would be called out afterwards.

18 doriangrey  10/02/08 7:59:52 pm reply quote

Democrats lie, thats what they do.... Catch them in a lie and it doesnt matter they just lie more and the corrupt MSM covers for them....

19 karmic_inquisitor  10/02/08 8:00:11 pm reply quote

No.

You are all wrong.

Obama did not say those things. You are just plain wrong.

/The "retort" that the MSM will run with.

20 Athos  10/02/08 8:00:12 pm reply quote

This lie is particularly telling and egregious - Obama tried to run the same line of crap at last week's debate with McCain and got hammered for it. Not only wasn't it a good lie, it wasn't an original lie.

21 spidly  10/02/08 8:00:17 pm reply quote

but that was years ago when he was young.
note how he has no grey in his hair then

22 Occasional Reader  10/02/08 8:00:59 pm reply quote

Charles, this doesn't help Michelle's children.

23 Pshawalaw  10/02/08 8:01:05 pm reply quote

re: #11 LockeOn

Joe, blindly defending the guy he attacked 6 months ago!

Yeah, he hated it when Sarah mentioned that.

24 J.D.  10/02/08 8:01:05 pm reply quote

Oh, he'll have an explanation for that. Might be unintelligible, but he'll have one.

25 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:01:06 pm reply quote

re: #13 Macker

Biden's ass is fact-checked already! ALL HAIL CHARLES & STINKY!

You mean McCain's web ad team doesn't have this all edited together yet?

/

26 MandyManners  10/02/08 8:01:06 pm reply quote

Does Joe really think he can just flat-out lie and not be caught?

27 Dr. Shalit  10/02/08 8:01:07 pm reply quote

Stinky for Secretary of "Troof."

-S-

28 Luigi  10/02/08 8:01:56 pm reply quote

Edwards. John Edwards? Why, I remember him! Yes. Whatever happened to him?

29 doriangrey  10/02/08 8:02:01 pm reply quote

re: #26 MandyManners

Does Joe really think he can just flat-out lie and not be caught?

Yes Mandy, he really does.

30 MandyManners  10/02/08 8:02:07 pm reply quote

re: #25 Dar ul Harb

You mean McCain's web ad team doesn't have this all edited together yet?

/

Such an ad needs to run everywhere, not just the Internet.

31 Typicalwhitey  10/02/08 8:02:16 pm reply quote

SarahCUDA brought her A game tonight!

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  10/02/08 8:02:21 pm reply quote

Oh yeah. Time to go back to my old line.

Ronald Reagan, The Great Communicator

Barack O'bama, The Great Clarifyer

33 Occasional Reader  10/02/08 8:02:29 pm reply quote

Hillary actually made some sense in this answer. Which, uh, doesn't make you look good in contrast, Oh The One.

34 godfrey  10/02/08 8:02:46 pm reply quote

re: #26 MandyManners

Of course Biden thinks he can lie. He does it all the time. That's what he's paid for.

35 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:02:51 pm reply quote

This was the one question that Ifill snuck in for 0bama, IMO.

36 Racer X  10/02/08 8:02:57 pm reply quote

Nice job Sarah!

John, you're up next. Go get 'em!

37 ciaospirit  10/02/08 8:03:01 pm reply quote

Fred Thompson just did a laundry list of Biden's "misrepresentations". He included the unconditional comment. Rush and Levin are going to nail Biden's ass tomorrow.

38 MandyManners  10/02/08 8:03:06 pm reply quote

re: #29 doriangrey

Yes Mandy, he really does.

I quit watching for a bit after that. I couldn't stomach it.

39 willowone  10/02/08 8:03:15 pm reply quote

re: #19 karmic_inquisitor
Obama"you did NOT hear me say that. I said," what i thought they wanted me to say, but i didn't really mean,"
Listen closer everyone, dang it!

40 freedomplow  10/02/08 8:03:18 pm reply quote

MSNBC will be all over this.

/

41 shug  10/02/08 8:03:21 pm reply quote

Charles, you obviously don't understand nuance

/

42 Hucbald  10/02/08 8:03:30 pm reply quote

Not sure this was a knockout blow, but Palin won hands down. Joe actually outperformed my expectations, which just means he was less craptacular than usual, and Sarah finally got the chance to shine, even with Gwen "Ifill Your Pain" running interference (Check Hugh Hewitt for the moment I'm talking about: Joe was exposed for a killing roundhouse, and "Ifill Your Pain" interrupted Palin).

Go Sarah!

43 bcgirl  10/02/08 8:03:33 pm reply quote

yes out and out lie and there were at least a couple more probably

44 Ojoe  10/02/08 8:03:41 pm reply quote

Let's have a liar a heartbeat away from the presidency?

45 taxfreekiller  10/02/08 8:03:57 pm reply quote

he lied 5 times would be my count,
he bull shitted 143 times also

46 Desert Dog  10/02/08 8:04:00 pm reply quote

"These are not the droids you are looking for....." That works with the smittened and brainwashed worshipers and the fawning and in the tank media. But, when your "Force is weak", it does not work on people with an engaged brain. He's been spinning this since he said it. He said a lot of things that he is now blatantly lying about. Why isn't McCain hammering him on this stuff more?

47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  10/02/08 8:04:10 pm reply quote

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh yeah. Time to go back to my old line.

Ronald Reagan, The Great Communicator

Barack O'bama, The Great Clarifyer

Oh. Sorry. Clarifier.

48 Occasional Reader  10/02/08 8:04:24 pm reply quote

And note that Biden's weasel answer won't help him: Oh, Ahmadinejad isn't the "leader", the mullahs are.

Ah. So Obama would meet THEM unconditionally? That's supposed to be an improvement?!

49 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:04:44 pm reply quote

So, Gov. Palin, are all these former Secretaries of State wrong?
--Something Ifill

50 shug  10/02/08 8:04:47 pm reply quote

Headline

Palin Scalps Obama at Debate.
Disappointed with scalp

51 Quintus_Arius  10/02/08 8:04:54 pm reply quote

Palin wins! Go GOP. The game is back on. I love soccer moms,,,

Go Irish! Our soccer team!

52 rawmuse  10/02/08 8:05:02 pm reply quote

Yeah, Charles, THAT right there is why you are THE MAN!
I was watching Biden say that and saying "What the...?"
How do these people get away with it?
It is usually because WE LET THEM DO IT.
But, deep down, the thing that really hurts is that when they lie like that, it insults my intelligence. They think they can get away with it.
I hope we prove them wrong.

53 Pshawalaw  10/02/08 8:05:07 pm reply quote

Biden thought he was so clever talking about McCain voting against an amendment to give the troops support. McCain voted against the Bill that would have set a time table for return, he voted against the Bill not against an amendment. They stuff all Bills so full of crap, see yesterday's bailout Bill, it is just wrong.

54 shug  10/02/08 8:05:10 pm reply quote

oops. Biden

55 Perivayne  10/02/08 8:05:12 pm reply quote

Hmm...the remark about his neighbor's "getting it" about the economic situation and the pathetic buy-out, er, bail-out?

Joe lives in Greenville, De...the same neighborhood as the DuPonts and other wealthy elite.

Oh, yeah, they get it alright. And Joe's going to make sure that they get it.

56 Sharmuta  10/02/08 8:05:31 pm reply quote

re: #44 Ojoe

Let's have a liar a heartbeat away from the presidency?

Actually- if 0bama wins we'd have a liar as President.

57 Pullus Iulius  10/02/08 8:05:33 pm reply quote

Good response time, Charles. You picked up on it as soon as he said it. Let's give that SOB not a moment's rest.

58 jwb7605  10/02/08 8:05:52 pm reply quote

re: #17 Pshawalaw

Sarah warned him that his lies would be called out afterwards.

Afterwards doesn't matter.
Drudge Report: 74% Palin, 24% Biden.
Wife: Palin sounded good
Me: Palin, hands down.
Frank Luntz: Palin won. Period.

But ... tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow ... heh.
Even Krauthammer is impressed.

59 devil in baggy pants  10/02/08 8:06:08 pm reply quote

[Link: minx.cc...]

Ace of Spades has them all

60 godfrey  10/02/08 8:06:12 pm reply quote

re: #48 Occasional Reader

Obama is making it all up as he goes.

61 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:06:25 pm reply quote

re: #48 Occasional Reader

And note that Biden's weasel answer won't help him: Oh, Ahmadinejad isn't the "leader", the mullahs are.

Ah. So Obama would meet THEM unconditionally? That's supposed to be an improvement?!

And he could converse with them in perfectly accented madrassa Arabic.

(Yeah, I know they speak Persian, but... dirka dirka Mohammed jihad!)

62 Jetpilot1101  10/02/08 8:06:25 pm reply quote

Krauthammer is doing a good analysis on FOXNews.

63 Oldasdirt  10/02/08 8:06:33 pm reply quote

Wish i could send her a big bunch of some nice flowers.and a thank you card.

64 Racer X  10/02/08 8:06:50 pm reply quote

It's all on McCain now. Sarah has done her job.

65 ornery elephant  10/02/08 8:07:56 pm reply quote

Local NBC station in Minneapolis poll of debate results:

Who Won The Debate? :

Biden 59%

Palin 38%

:course, this is a state that will probably vote in Al Franken:

66 bcgirl  10/02/08 8:08:11 pm reply quote

i loved Sarah's dig at the "filters of the main stream media, telling you what you just heard" line f**k you katie

67 Occasional Reader  10/02/08 8:08:17 pm reply quote

Krauthammer shares my bafflement as to why the McCain campaign isn't bringing up the Dems shooting down Fannie/Freddie reform in 2003.

68 abolitionist  10/02/08 8:08:26 pm reply quote

And Kennedy said (of his face to face talk with Nikita Khrushchev) He beat the **** out of me.

69 J.D.  10/02/08 8:08:29 pm reply quote

re: #62 Jetpilot1101

Krauthammer is doing a good analysis on FOXNews.

What's his take?
My television has been switched to sports or something....

70 kynna  10/02/08 8:08:33 pm reply quote

McCain team: Obama did say he would meet with dictators without preconditions.

Obama team: No he didn't. He did on the tape you keep showing, but he didn't.

MSM: 'Without preconditions' smear debunked.

----

It works for so many things.

71 taxfreekiller  10/02/08 8:08:34 pm reply quote

thing is , he is just proving up his loon liberal street cread,
the msm and the other loons will lap it up, "he's one of us""""

72 Gorgon Zola  10/02/08 8:09:01 pm reply quote

I'm in Love,,astounding performance,,hands down,,McCain picked a winner,,

73 The Shadow Do  10/02/08 8:09:04 pm reply quote

I think some of the really well aimed darts were Sarah making the point repeatedly that Joe had just exhibited what was wrong with living one's life in Washington - referring to his repeated reversals on policies and war opinions since his VP announcement.

74 kynna  10/02/08 8:10:13 pm reply quote

re: #58 jwb7605


Even Krauthammer is impressed.

I wonder if Kathleen Parker is having second thoughts.

75 shug  10/02/08 8:10:27 pm reply quote

re: #66 bcgirl

i loved Sarah's dig at the "filters of the main stream media, telling you what you just heard" line f**k you katie

I pumped my fist. I've been waiting a long time for a politician to tell it like it is and call the MSM out !

76 USA  10/02/08 8:10:38 pm reply quote

Obabble said he would meet without "pre-conditioner." The One was talking about the state of his hair during a meeting!

77 Intrepid  10/02/08 8:10:53 pm reply quote

Clair McKaskill: "Joe Biden had a lot of facts".

Yes he did, but 14 of them weren't true ones.

78 Gorgon Zola  10/02/08 8:10:58 pm reply quote

Racerx correct,,Sarah did her job with a fluorish,,

79 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:11:02 pm reply quote

re: #67 Occasional Reader

Krauthammer shares my bafflement as to why the McCain campaign isn't bringing up the Dems shooting down Fannie/Freddie reform in 2003.

Palin did, repeatedly. She didn't say "Democrats" explicitly, but referred to Biden's side not wanting to go long with it.

80 Ward Cleaver  10/02/08 8:11:04 pm reply quote

What network was Fred Thompson on? Fox?

81 MandyManners  10/02/08 8:11:13 pm reply quote
82 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:11:31 pm reply quote

along, PIMF.

83 Ward Cleaver  10/02/08 8:11:46 pm reply quote

Chris Wallace on CSPAN right now.

84 MandyManners  10/02/08 8:11:51 pm reply quote

re: #74 kynna

I wonder if Kathleen Parker is having second thoughts.

At times, Parker strikes me as a ninny.

85 shug  10/02/08 8:12:17 pm reply quote

Claire, I agree Obama has been consistent.

consistently wrong

86 shug  10/02/08 8:12:45 pm reply quote

re: #80 Ward Cleaver

FNC

87 Ward Cleaver  10/02/08 8:12:49 pm reply quote

re: #76 USA

Obabble said he would meet without "pre-conditioner." The One was talking about the state of his hair during a meeting!

Fried, died, and swooped to the side?

88 rawmuse  10/02/08 8:12:52 pm reply quote

The other thing that pissed me off about the debate was their gratuitous use of Dick Cheney, sprinkled generously through the event. It will not work on me, I love Mr. Cheney. But, dammit, he is not running in '08.

89 jaunte  10/02/08 8:13:07 pm reply quote

Lie # whatever: Joe Biden feeling the working-class/middle-class pain on a Senator's salary since 1972.

90 Gorgon Zola  10/02/08 8:13:19 pm reply quote

Mandy Manners correct..Parker must retract

91 Killian Bundy  10/02/08 8:13:30 pm reply quote

We need more LGF server power, at least temporariliy through the election.

/who many Lizards want to pay for it if we know how much it costs?

92 karmic_inquisitor  10/02/08 8:13:31 pm reply quote

I forgot that Edwards said "yes" too.

It is a compulsion for him. He likes to visit bars and say "yes" as well as "yes?" and, of course, "YES!"

93 taxfreekiller  10/02/08 8:13:42 pm reply quote

Ward,

are you going at 10:30 to Ross and Akard Dallas?

94 Ward Cleaver  10/02/08 8:13:47 pm reply quote

re: #86 shug

FNC

Good, I'll get to see it. June has it on Fox in the living room, delayed because of the DVR.

95 Percopius  10/02/08 8:13:47 pm reply quote

she said ' dog-gonit' during the debate. Is that spelled right? Where did that expression come from?

96 willowone  10/02/08 8:13:51 pm reply quote

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...] , Palin win debate?vote for Palin if you like.

97 joncelli  10/02/08 8:13:53 pm reply quote

5,970,878 comments. Over the top by Monday noon.

98 godfrey  10/02/08 8:13:54 pm reply quote

re: #67 Occasional Reader

Maybe they're saving that ammo for McCain to use.

99 Slumbering Behemoth  10/02/08 8:13:56 pm reply quote

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Say, OR, weren't you the one making the joke about Palin's earrings being radio receivers?

100 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:14:08 pm reply quote

Well, the video does show one other thing.

I'm sure glad they had Ifill for this debate rather than some anonymous Youtube dweeb.

101 nyc redneck  10/02/08 8:14:26 pm reply quote

poor biden. he was such a blow hard.
i don't think he had any idea what he was rambling on abt.
he was just making noise.
trying to look important.

102 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:14:51 pm reply quote

re: #88 rawmuse

The other thing that pissed me off about the debate was their gratuitous use of Dick Cheney, sprinkled generously through the event. It will not work on me, I love Mr. Cheney. But, dammit, he is not running in '08.

Neither is Georgebushes!

103 really grumpy big dog Johnson  10/02/08 8:14:52 pm reply quote

doggonit

104 Ward Cleaver  10/02/08 8:15:00 pm reply quote

re: #93 taxfreekiller

Ward,

are you going at 10:30 to Ross and Akard Dallas?

No, I totally forgot about it. I knew she was coming. Busy at work tomorrow, but blogging of course.

105 nyc redneck  10/02/08 8:15:14 pm reply quote

bill clinton is happy.

106 spynverzyon  10/02/08 8:15:20 pm reply quote

Brilliant performance by Palin, but bittersweet, as it left me wishing all the more that she were at the top of the ticket.

107 panamahat  10/02/08 8:15:51 pm reply quote

Oh, Sarah, do it again, and again, and again. Can't get enough of the TRUTH told with vigor and sincerity and love for our blessed land.

108 maddogg  10/02/08 8:16:27 pm reply quote

Fres Thompson named 5 or 6 bald faced lies Joe Blow told.

109 Maui Girl  10/02/08 8:16:33 pm reply quote

Perfect fodder for a campaign commercial. Biden's statement - then Obama's statement during that debate.

110 NomadOfNorad  10/02/08 8:16:40 pm reply quote

We need to make sure there's a copy of this video up on LiveLeak. Now. Before YouTube has a chance to pull it.

111 karmic_inquisitor  10/02/08 8:16:43 pm reply quote

So have the Moonbats this evening called for Biden to announce his illness so that the Hilldebeast can be the VP nominee?

112 Dar ul Harb  10/02/08 8:16:52 pm reply quote

re: #95 Percopius

she said ' dog-gonit' during the debate. Is that spelled right? Where did that expression come from?

That's doggone it, goddammit er, dagnabbit!

113 nyc redneck  10/02/08 8:16:54 pm reply quote

re: #103 really grumpy big dog Johnson

doggonit


twice.
she said it twice.

114 joncelli  10/02/08 8:17:09 pm reply quote

re: #26 MandyManners

He's got the MSM in his corner so I guess he figured it was worth a try.

115 freedomplow  10/02/08 8:17:19 pm reply quote

re: #67 Occasional Reader

Krauthammer shares my bafflement as to why the McCain campaign isn't bringing up the Dems shooting down Fannie/Freddie reform in 2003.


Hopefully they are waiting until after it passes. Expect some people to hold it up because they know whats coming.

116 Occasional Reader  10/02/08 8:17:33 pm reply quote

re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth

Say, OR, weren't you the one making the joke about Palin's earrings being radio receivers?

Good lord.

Impossible to parody. That's our MSM!

117 Walter L. Newton  10/02/08 8:17:33 pm reply quote

re: #52 rawmuse

Yeah, Charles, THAT right there is why you are THE MAN!

OT - rawmuse - I got it, replied.

118 zombie  10/02/08 8:18:03 pm reply quote

re: #44 Ojoe

Let's have a liar a heartbeat away from the presidency?

Uhhh, hate to break the news to you, but...

Bill Clinton
Richard Nixon
Herbert Hoover
Woodrow Wilson...

...The number of presidents caught in bald-face lies is rather substantial.

119 Sharmuta  10/02/08 8:18:04 pm reply quote

I think we need to chip in to get a few more hamsters.

120 SpartanWoman  10/02/08 8:18:05 pm reply quote

re: #90 Gorgon Zola

Mandy Manners correct..Parker must retract

Parker is a gasbag. I've heard enough of her drivel for a lifetime

121 Pawn of the Oppressor  10/02/08 8:18:07 pm reply quote

She fell back a bit on the McCain Maverick stuff a bit too much, but not nearly as much as before... Which is why she came across well.

Biden LIED. Oh boy did that mofo lie... lie, lie, lie like a dog, and the sad thing is you can't even tell if he thinks it's true or not because he's a little bit crazy like that. I think he did surprisingly well - some very, very nasty home run shots at McPain's record, well-constructed and very carefully coached ("This girl is talking nonsense, it's a matter of record that McCain voted in favor of kicking puppies and starving old people 5,000 times! Google it, people!"), and please, G-d, McCain needs to shoot this McSame/McBush meme out of the sky... Palin took a shot at it, thankfully, it's about TIME somebody fought back... But more is needed.

Both of them did better than I expected, almost like the roles were switched from the first Presidential debate. The junior person performed 100% better than expected, to match or beat the senior person, who performed 10% better than expected.

What an odd election.

Good to see the real Sarah Charm at work again too. It's been missing for a few weeks (filtered out, perhaps?)

122 Joo-LiZ  10/02/08 8:18:23 pm reply quote