Ron Paul!

Go Sarah..... skelator sucks.............

What, no Ron Paul?
/

Do you even need to ask?

here’s our silly Internet poll

Heh.

The Bosniacs won.

& I'm not voting in this poll because the electoral process should be simpler.

Alright, there's a Biden vote up there.

'Fess up!

I'm trying to comment and hopefully, I shall. TG, OMG, that LGF, or LFG whichever, is doing a silly internet poll. Yippee, we're number one!

Hangin' chad.

Trig won big time to have such a mom.

she said she was proud of america.

Three Biden votes?!?!?!?

Avast! There are three mutineers aboard this ship!

All right.

Next up, the economy.

Go Sarah.....you really showed them tonight!
CONGRATULATIONS TO SARAH PALIN ! !

Name the names of those that voted for joeplugs. Are you guys NUTS?

re: #15 newsjunkie_ky

I'll go out on a wild limb here and suggest justmyview is one.

Glad you didn't include R-n P--l, Charles.

re: #15 newsjunkie_ky

Name the names of those that voted for joeplugs. Are you guys NUTS?

LOL,
surely they're just pranksters

Can non-lizards vote? Or are Edgar, Eide and that crazy lady from france here?

re: #7 zombie jeeze i hope i wasn't one, i've had a glass of wine in celebration! of Palin being so lovely , poised, , wise, perky and yes articulate!

Ron *cough-haackk-cough!* Paul!

Here's another MSM survey, this one at the Boston Globe

Currently 70% Biden (well, these are Globe readers)
22% Palin
7.7 tie

Come on, lizards.

Even in a very pro-palin poll, Biden has a higher percentage of votes than he got in the presidential primary

heh

re: #16 Sharmuta

I'll go out on a wild limb here and suggest justmyview is one.

Well now at least we will know how many trolls and mobys are hiding amongst our fellow lizards....

Honestly, I thought Biden won hands dow.........


Bwahahahaha! Sorry I could not even type that with a straight face. Sarah kicked ass.

The poll's open to all, by the way, so there are going to be some koolaid drinkers voting for Biden.

Palin crushed Biden's head. It was almost hard to watch. Not even close.

I fear our poll might be slanted towards palin. I suggest we employ a weighting factor of -5% and an error margin of +/- 1% to give us a more accurate picture.

Using methods pioneered by the Lancet, this gives Palin a minimum lead of 94% to Biden's 6% - a far more accurate picture of the debater respective performances.

I'll phone this through to the MSN newsdesks

re: #19 SpartanWoman

Can non-lizards vote? Or are Edgar, Eide and that crazy lady from france here?

It's evil puppets from the darkside.

Oh Happy Day!

I am sending the McCain-Palin campaign some of tomarows paycheck.

Pledge with me Lizards!

Let's send them some much need money.

Did she deliver or what?

McCain made the right choice to help us all unite nehind someone that is Real.

can we run a poll on how fast the Cubs are going to flush themselves down the toilet bowl of history again?

gah

this can't be happening

What about Ron Paul?

re: #12 zombie

It's the hamsters! Quick, tell Charles that he has Obama fans in the hamster wheels.

Biden 26%

Palin 72%

Heh!

Dick Morris just praised Gov. Palin's performance more than I have seen him praise any human being in my life. There may be hope for him.

If a dem like Morris can heap that kind of praise, what do you think the average person thinks?

THE.MOST.INFLUENTIAL.VP.DEBATE

Ever.

joeplugs lied so freakin' much tonight.

I just want to thank my patron saint for listening. Thanks, Little Flower.

/Catholic

re: #22 Kosh's Shadow

68-24 now.

FOX's poll, over 1 million votes - 86% thought Palin won.

Got to say, I thought Gwen Ifill did a good job. Very fair.

She and the McCain campaign both knew she's be under close scrutiny.

That is... check out the silly poll on Drudge

Biden 26%

Palin 72%

Someone go tell the freepers to get their butts over here and freep our poll!

I voted too.
Is that OK?

/Canadiac

I put up a Biden vote, because somebody ought to. Hey man, dissent is the highest form of Patriotism!

Seriously, in terms of campaign strategy, I think Biden hammered the McCain ticket pretty hard. "John really voted this way, John really voted that way, look at his record, the woman to my left is lying", he kept saying it, he kept getting away with it, and it came across pretty good, considering. McCain needs to respond to that, like, yesterday. Enough with the broad Maverick bullshit, he needs to start talking specifics and blow this McBush thing out of the air. Obama and Biden are going to run with this "empty rhetoric" strategy against McCain. The McP ticket needs to pull out the knife and get cuttin'.

I was uncomfortable watching Joe because apparently his face lift is connected to his rear scalp somewhere and gives him a permanent squint.

re: #32 George guy

The doctor is so out.

new comments button no worky.

Fox poll with over 1 million vote so far has Palin at 86%

wru Ron Paul?

Can I clear my cookies and vote again like all the other web polls?

re: #38 gop_patriot

68-24 now.

I knew I could count on lizards - 67-25.5 now.

With the economy in the state that it's in, could a gynecologist really screw it up any further?

She benefitted from Low expectations.

The dems talking point

she was just incredible. she looked so attractive and was so delightful, biden was a worse bumbling fool than ever.

re: #31 mama winger

can we run a poll on how fast the Cubs are going to flush themselves down the toilet bowl of history again?

gah

this can't be happening

I think the Cardinals would be doing better.
/Just a thought

C'mon hamsters.

Now if you think the presidential candidate is a man of character and knowledge, someone who has exhibited repeatedly his patriotism and love for his country...

And if you believe that his VP candidate is utterly suitable for the job...

Then what do you do?

On ABC's Nightline, George Stephanopolous just declared Joe Biden the winner of tonight's debate.

Shocker, huh?

re: #16 Sharmuta

The hell you say!

Please note that I'm not judging objective truth, I'm judging rhetorical strategy. Biden's only hope was to play Elder Statesman and attack McCain's record, which he did, and he hit pretty hard right in the weak spot - "This Maverick thing is a lie. Don't believe it. He's more of the same."

Ron Paul

re: #45 rawmuse

Agreed. Biden looked almost plastic. The guy makeup was way too thick.

howard wolfson on hannity. he can hardly be positive abt. biden.

re: #37 Catttt

I just want to thank my patron saint for listening. Thanks, Little Flower.

/Catholic

The meaning of love is to sacrifice yourself .......

I hear she loves Sarah too.

re: #40 Cognito

Got to say, I thought Gwen Ifill did a good job. Very fair.

She and the McCain campaign both knew she's be under close scrutiny.

Yup, I expect she checked the crap at the coat check on the way in.

re: #52 Shug

She benefitted from Low expectations.

The dems talking point

Actually I think that's true. But then again it's the left who lowered those expectations. People started to take the SNL bit as serious commentary, and then -- lo, behold -- she's not a cartoon character. Oops.

re: #61 Mich-again

Agreed. Biden looked almost plastic. The guy makeup was way too thick.

I kept watching the muscles connecting his left eyelid to his upper temple. They were pulling his eyebrow funny. I know the man has had a couple of strokes, but it looked really strange.

re: #59 Pawn of the Oppressor

True, Biden got his licks in, but he more than negated them with those whoppers that fell out of his mouth.

I was disappointed that Ms. Palin did not lay the heavy lumber where it belonged as regards CRAs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. They were big fat softballs waiting be hit back.

Sarah: 'Where's my kids?'
I love that she said that and that they left the mics open. They may have been trying to catch her something bad and instead she sounded so normal.

Who are the Biden votes? Upset paulbots?

I think Sarah won, and the loser was not Joe Biden, but the msm who has done darn near everything they can to pain Sarah as unqualified and incapable of handling the position. I think more people tonight will have come to the conclusion the the msm is blowing smoke for 0bama and the ratings and readership will continue their downward spiral.

re: #65 Cognito

Actually I think that's true. But then again it's the left who lowered those expectations. People started to take the SNL bit as serious commentary, and then -- lo, behold -- she's not a cartoon character. Oops.

yep

Sarah just ate Biden's lunch,breakfast,dinner and the in-between snacks tonight.

Speaking of Liars On The Left™

Sandra Bernhard denies issuing Sarah Palin 'gang rape' warning

Anyone with a computer and Youtube access can go see exactly what she said. I won't link to it.

ABC's Donna Brazille: "Joe Biden clearly gave the performance of a lifetime"

I think i'm gonna be sick.

re: #59 Pawn of the Oppressor

Please note that I'm not judging objective truth, I'm judging rhetorical strategy. Biden's only hope was to play Elder Statesman and attack McCain's record, which he did, and he hit pretty hard right in the weak spot - "This Maverick thing is a lie. Don't believe it. He's more of the same."

Well, I'm not so sure how well that's really going to work, considering how many Republicans know how McCain has crossed the aisle so many times (pissing us off!), and Democrats know that too. If you want a center-right government, McCain's going to be the guy. If you're looking for Marxism-lite, the Dear Leader 0bama needs your vote.

re: #7 zombie
Hey zombie there are now 47 Biden votes up there!

re: #72 irongrampa

Sarah just ate Biden's lunch,breakfast,dinner and the in-between snacks tonight.

Yup, that she did....

Who lost more? Biden or Ifil?

Go hockey mom!

Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."

She got wasted, didn't she...

Regarding Sarah, as Dennis Miller would say, I like the cut of her jibe.

i loved the family coming up at the end. little piper carrying the baby. the two other girls. todd, just beaming at his wife. these are good people.

Zombie - posted response on prior thread. Sorry - had to reboot the box halfway through the post.

The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."

We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.

A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.

Doggone it.

re: #65 Cognito

Actually I think that's true. But then again it's the left who lowered those expectations. People started to take the SNL bit as serious commentary, and then -- lo, behold -- she's not a cartoon character. Oops.

She also played an extremely good rope-a-dope. You think she was REALLY flustered by a question about what magazines she reads? Brilliant strategy that paid off handsomely tonight.

re: #79 laZardo

Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."

She got wasted, didn't she...

Nope.... The Saraccuda ate a big fat lying democrat for supper....

re: #74 ornery elephant

ABC's Donna Brazille: "Joe Biden clearly gave the performance of a lifetime"

Which may well be true, more's the pity for him.

re: #40 Cognito

Got to say, I thought Gwen Ifill did a good job. Very fair.

She and the McCain campaign both knew she's be under close scrutiny.

To be fair, Gwen Ifill, when I've watched her, has always been remarkably balanced. I know she has her own set of opinions, but when I have watched her, she has been pretty fair.

Looks to me like we're infiltrated with 6.3% mobies/trolls.

re: #73 Racer X

Speaking of Liars On The Left™

Sandra Bernhard denies issuing Sarah Palin 'gang rape' warning

Anyone with a computer and Youtube access can go see exactly what she said. I won't link to it.

The Daily News is hilarious, here. Check out the top of the story, and look for the 'related' link embedded:

Sandra Bernhard denies issuing Sarah Palin 'gang rape' warning
BY KORIN MILLER
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, October 2nd 2008, 3:53 PM

Rothenberg for News
Sandra Bernhard
Outspoken comedienne Sandra Bernhard has shot down earlier reports that she said Sarah Palin would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers" if she enters Manhattan.
"I never said 'gang-raped' and I never used 'rape,' " Bernhard told the Daily News on Thursday.
The funnywoman was widely criticized after reportedly making the remark in her opening monologue during a show last month at Washington, D.C.'s Theater J.
RELATED: SANDRA BERNHARD ISSUES 'GANG RAPE' WARNING

50 votes for Biden, so far.

They only come out at night.

re: #59 Pawn of the Oppressor

Please note that I'm not judging objective truth, I'm judging rhetorical strategy. Biden's only hope was to play Elder Statesman and attack McCain's record, which he did, and he hit pretty hard right in the weak spot - "This Maverick thing is a lie. Don't believe it. He's more of the same."

If we accept that - OK - But ... Palin is not.

And she could have been more aggressive -

re: #80 Archimedes

jib (a sail on a yacht)

Hey all y'all - from the AP no less:

Palin stands her ground in VP debate with Biden

ST. LOUIS - Under intense scrutiny, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin stood her ground Thursday night against a vastly more experienced Joe Biden, debating the economy, energy and global warming, then challenging him on Iraq, "especially with your son in the National Guard."

The Alaska governor also noted that Biden had once said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama wasn't ready to be commander in chief, "and I know again that you opposed the move that he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and I respect you for that."

[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

Would have been nice to see her field dress Biden afterwards. Instead she left his carcass for the wolves.

_{/it's a metaphor people.}

re: #83 Charles

The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."

We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.

A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.

Doggone it.

You soooooo fucking rock Charles................................

I tried to vote Ron Paul but Charles and all his bias won't include the real maverick!

Wink Wink

High 5 PALIN!

re: #79 laZardo

Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."

She got wasted, didn't she...

Joe Biden walked off stage and took a seat in the crowd, so he could get a good view of the Sarah Palin show. Just kidding! But he might as well have.

re: #63 JacksonTn

The meaning of love is to sacrifice yourself .......

I hear she loves Sarah too.

Yes, today is the feast of St. Theresa, the Little Flower and while I do not condone injecting her or God into something like politics, it is well to remember what the Little Flower stood for - steadfast trust in God. I guess some of us lost faith in Sarah, myself included. But she really did fine. I think she connected with the country and bypassed the elites...We have a foot in the door the MSM has been trying to shut.

I think the heavy hitting on CRA's, Fannie and Freddie et al will come after the bailout voting is done. At that point I'd bet the whole laundry list will get pushes, and pushed hard.

Am I the only one who was totally creeped out after the debate when Biden stood there and kept stroking Sarah's arm?

Ew.

This guy is obviously enchanted with her, but damn.

re: #88 maddogg

Looks to me like we're infiltrated with 6.3% mobies/trolls.

Na. Just 3.1%.

It is "bring a dead friend night" for them. Just like election day.

dammit, I'm watching the DVR, and Billy Crystal just used the words, "Sarah Palin Show". Sorry, folks, I wasn't trying to steal lines or nothin'

Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.

I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.

re: #85 doriangrey

re: #97 cliffster

Gonna have to catch the primetime-localtime rerun then.

re: #83 Charles

The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."

We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.

A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.

Doggone it.

More traffic means more ad clicks, which means more revenue!

re: #79 laZardo

Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."

She got wasted, didn't she...

Not at all. She was the game changer we were waiting for.

re: #88 maddogg

Looks to me like we're infiltrated with 6.3% mobies/trolls.

You can see them sipping Kool-Aid and eating with sporks.

re: #93 realwest

Politeness. BAHAHAHAHA.

I was suggesting all week that the Couric interviews was a set-up of the MSM by Palin, her own little Rope-a-Dope. I suspect within 48 hrs that will be a standard conclusion I so want to stake my claim first.

Biden looked like he'd been tasered.

re: #26 Charles

The poll's open to all, by the way, so there are going to be some koolaid drinkers voting for Biden.

Palin crushed Biden's head. It was almost hard to watch. Not even close.

My nonpolitical wife (who didn't watch, only listened) agrees.
As does Drudge (a nice mix of liberals and conservatives).

My call: Palin, hands down. I'll sleep well tonight.

As I said to my better half, "Like I told a pollster, I'm voting for Palin, not the other three".

re: #83 Charles

The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."

We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.

A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.

Doggone it.

You give me a joyful way to spend the late evenings and early mornings.

I thank you for your efforts.

I am humbled by your expenses.

Thank you.

re: #29 Syrah

re: #67 rawmuse

True, Biden got his licks in, but he more than negated them with those whoppers that fell out of his mouth.

I was disappointed that Ms. Palin did not lay the heavy lumber where it belonged as regards CRAs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. They were big fat softballs waiting be hit back.

See, that's exactly it - Sarah dogged him on some things, and she DID, FINALLY (for the first time in months) call out the McSame meme as being irritating, if not false. But she could have brutalized Obama on Fannie Mae, etc., shoved ACORN up Joe's tailpipe until he was coughing out squirrels, burned his whole ticket down to the ground by really hammering the McBush bullshit with withering sarcasm, and explicitly distanced both herself and McCain from Bush as best as possible. She indirectly acknowledged some of these things but didn't pursue them.

Nobody's perfect, and maybe she wanted to keep it civil and not seem bitchy. But Biden hit McCain/Palin at least as hard as Palin hit Obama/Biden. So I give an edge to Joe, for slightly better political strateegery.

In terms of character and appeal, though, Palin wins it by a mile.