Poll: Who Won?
Politics | Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:40:48 pm PDT
Since the mainstream media is running silly Internet poll after silly Internet poll, here’s our silly Internet poll:
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Politics | Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:40:48 pm PDT
Since the mainstream media is running silly Internet poll after silly Internet poll, here’s our silly Internet poll:
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Ojoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:43:09pm |
The Bosniacs won.
& I'm not voting in this poll because the electoral process should be simpler.
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Olderthandirt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:43:40pm |
I'm trying to comment and hopefully, I shall. TG, OMG, that LGF, or LFG whichever, is doing a silly internet poll. Yippee, we're number one!
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zombie Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:44:45pm |
Three Biden votes?!?!?!?
Avast! There are three mutineers aboard this ship!
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:44:52pm |
Go Sarah.....you really showed them tonight!
CONGRATULATIONS TO SARAH PALIN ! !
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:44:55pm |
Name the names of those that voted for joeplugs. Are you guys NUTS?
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:45:54pm |
re: #15 newsjunkie_ky
I'll go out on a wild limb here and suggest justmyview is one.
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nyc redneck Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:46:26pm |
re: #15 newsjunkie_ky
Name the names of those that voted for joeplugs. Are you guys NUTS?
LOL,
surely they're just pranksters
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:46:45pm |
Can non-lizards vote? Or are Edgar, Eide and that crazy lady from france here?
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willowone Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:47:06pm |
re: #7 zombie jeeze i hope i wasn't one, i've had a glass of wine in celebration! of Palin being so lovely , poised, , wise, perky and yes articulate!
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:47:26pm |
Here's another MSM survey, this one at the Boston Globe
Currently 70% Biden (well, these are Globe readers)
22% Palin
7.7 tie
Come on, lizards.
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:47:33pm |
Even in a very pro-palin poll, Biden has a higher percentage of votes than he got in the presidential primary
heh
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:47:35pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
I'll go out on a wild limb here and suggest justmyview is one.
Well now at least we will know how many trolls and mobys are hiding amongst our fellow lizards....
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:47:36pm |
Honestly, I thought Biden won hands dow.........
Bwahahahaha! Sorry I could not even type that with a straight face. Sarah kicked ass.
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Charles Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:47:41pm |
The poll's open to all, by the way, so there are going to be some koolaid drinkers voting for Biden.
Palin crushed Biden's head. It was almost hard to watch. Not even close.
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uptight Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:47:48pm |
I fear our poll might be slanted towards palin. I suggest we employ a weighting factor of -5% and an error margin of +/- 1% to give us a more accurate picture.
Using methods pioneered by the Lancet, this gives Palin a minimum lead of 94% to Biden's 6% - a far more accurate picture of the debater respective performances.
I'll phone this through to the MSN newsdesks
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:48:06pm |
re: #19 SpartanWoman
Can non-lizards vote? Or are Edgar, Eide and that crazy lady from france here?
It's evil puppets from the darkside.
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:48:12pm |
I am sending the McCain-Palin campaign some of tomarows paycheck.
Pledge with me Lizards!
Let's send them some much need money.
Did she deliver or what?
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willowone Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:48:13pm |
McCain made the right choice to help us all unite nehind someone that is Real.
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mama winger Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:48:38pm |
can we run a poll on how fast the Cubs are going to flush themselves down the toilet bowl of history again?
gah
this can't be happening
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the_flying_pig Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:49:11pm |
re: #12 zombie
It's the hamsters! Quick, tell Charles that he has Obama fans in the hamster wheels.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:49:25pm |
Dick Morris just praised Gov. Palin's performance more than I have seen him praise any human being in my life. There may be hope for him.
If a dem like Morris can heap that kind of praise, what do you think the average person thinks?
THE.MOST.INFLUENTIAL.VP.DEBATE
Ever.
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:49:27pm |
I just want to thank my patron saint for listening. Thanks, Little Flower.
/Catholic
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Irene NYC Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:50:16pm |
FOX's poll, over 1 million votes - 86% thought Palin won.
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Cognito Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:50:17pm |
Got to say, I thought Gwen Ifill did a good job. Very fair.
She and the McCain campaign both knew she's be under close scrutiny.
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Mr. E. Train Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:50:18pm |
That is... check out the silly poll on Drudge
Biden 26%
Palin 72%
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:50:27pm |
Someone go tell the freepers to get their butts over here and freep our poll!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:50:31pm |
I put up a Biden vote, because somebody ought to. Hey man, dissent is the highest form of Patriotism!
Seriously, in terms of campaign strategy, I think Biden hammered the McCain ticket pretty hard. "John really voted this way, John really voted that way, look at his record, the woman to my left is lying", he kept saying it, he kept getting away with it, and it came across pretty good, considering. McCain needs to respond to that, like, yesterday. Enough with the broad Maverick bullshit, he needs to start talking specifics and blow this McBush thing out of the air. Obama and Biden are going to run with this "empty rhetoric" strategy against McCain. The McP ticket needs to pull out the knife and get cuttin'.
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rawmuse Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:50:43pm |
I was uncomfortable watching Joe because apparently his face lift is connected to his rear scalp somewhere and gives him a permanent squint.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:51:11pm |
Fox poll with over 1 million vote so far has Palin at 86%
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lilliew Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:51:27pm |
wru Ron Paul?
Can I clear my cookies and vote again like all the other web polls?
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:51:38pm |
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George guy Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:52:04pm |
With the economy in the state that it's in, could a gynecologist really screw it up any further?
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:52:07pm |
She benefitted from Low expectations.
The dems talking point
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nyc redneck Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:52:23pm |
she was just incredible. she looked so attractive and was so delightful, biden was a worse bumbling fool than ever.
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The Shadow Do Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:52:28pm |
re: #31 mama winger
can we run a poll on how fast the Cubs are going to flush themselves down the toilet bowl of history again?
gah
this can't be happening
I think the Cardinals would be doing better.
/Just a thought
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:52:43pm |
Now if you think the presidential candidate is a man of character and knowledge, someone who has exhibited repeatedly his patriotism and love for his country...
And if you believe that his VP candidate is utterly suitable for the job...
Then what do you do?
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ornery elephant Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:52:48pm |
On ABC's Nightline, George Stephanopolous just declared Joe Biden the winner of tonight's debate.
Shocker, huh?
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:52:58pm |
Please note that I'm not judging objective truth, I'm judging rhetorical strategy. Biden's only hope was to play Elder Statesman and attack McCain's record, which he did, and he hit pretty hard right in the weak spot - "This Maverick thing is a lie. Don't believe it. He's more of the same."
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Mich-again Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:53:30pm |
re: #45 rawmuse
Agreed. Biden looked almost plastic. The guy makeup was way too thick.
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nyc redneck Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:53:59pm |
howard wolfson on hannity. he can hardly be positive abt. biden.
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JacksonTn Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:54:00pm |
re: #37 Catttt
I just want to thank my patron saint for listening. Thanks, Little Flower.
/Catholic
The meaning of love is to sacrifice yourself .......
I hear she loves Sarah too.
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The Shadow Do Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:54:08pm |
re: #40 Cognito
Got to say, I thought Gwen Ifill did a good job. Very fair.
She and the McCain campaign both knew she's be under close scrutiny.
Yup, I expect she checked the crap at the coat check on the way in.
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Cognito Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:54:18pm |
re: #52 Shug
She benefitted from Low expectations.
The dems talking point
Actually I think that's true. But then again it's the left who lowered those expectations. People started to take the SNL bit as serious commentary, and then -- lo, behold -- she's not a cartoon character. Oops.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:54:45pm |
re: #61 Mich-again
Agreed. Biden looked almost plastic. The guy makeup was way too thick.
I kept watching the muscles connecting his left eyelid to his upper temple. They were pulling his eyebrow funny. I know the man has had a couple of strokes, but it looked really strange.
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rawmuse Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:54:54pm |
re: #59 Pawn of the Oppressor
True, Biden got his licks in, but he more than negated them with those whoppers that fell out of his mouth.
I was disappointed that Ms. Palin did not lay the heavy lumber where it belonged as regards CRAs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. They were big fat softballs waiting be hit back.
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:54:55pm |
Sarah: 'Where's my kids?'
I love that she said that and that they left the mics open. They may have been trying to catch her something bad and instead she sounded so normal.
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:55:28pm |
I think Sarah won, and the loser was not Joe Biden, but the msm who has done darn near everything they can to pain Sarah as unqualified and incapable of handling the position. I think more people tonight will have come to the conclusion the the msm is blowing smoke for 0bama and the ratings and readership will continue their downward spiral.
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:55:55pm |
re: #65 Cognito
Actually I think that's true. But then again it's the left who lowered those expectations. People started to take the SNL bit as serious commentary, and then -- lo, behold -- she's not a cartoon character. Oops.
yep
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irongrampa Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:56:16pm |
Sarah just ate Biden's lunch,breakfast,dinner and the in-between snacks tonight.
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:01pm |
Speaking of Liars On The Left™
Sandra Bernhard denies issuing Sarah Palin 'gang rape' warning
Anyone with a computer and Youtube access can go see exactly what she said. I won't link to it.
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ornery elephant Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:06pm |
ABC's Donna Brazille: "Joe Biden clearly gave the performance of a lifetime"
I think i'm gonna be sick.
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:11pm |
re: #59 Pawn of the Oppressor
Please note that I'm not judging objective truth, I'm judging rhetorical strategy. Biden's only hope was to play Elder Statesman and attack McCain's record, which he did, and he hit pretty hard right in the weak spot - "This Maverick thing is a lie. Don't believe it. He's more of the same."
Well, I'm not so sure how well that's really going to work, considering how many Republicans know how McCain has crossed the aisle so many times (pissing us off!), and Democrats know that too. If you want a center-right government, McCain's going to be the guy. If you're looking for Marxism-lite, the Dear Leader 0bama needs your vote.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:14pm |
re: #7 zombie
Hey zombie there are now 47 Biden votes up there!
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:26pm |
re: #72 irongrampa
Sarah just ate Biden's lunch,breakfast,dinner and the in-between snacks tonight.
Yup, that she did....
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wiffersnapper Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:27pm |
Who lost more? Biden or Ifil?
Go hockey mom!
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laZardo Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:28pm |
Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."
She got wasted, didn't she...
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:36pm |
Regarding Sarah, as Dennis Miller would say, I like the cut of her jibe.
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nyc redneck Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:44pm |
i loved the family coming up at the end. little piper carrying the baby. the two other girls. todd, just beaming at his wife. these are good people.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:57:44pm |
Zombie - posted response on prior thread. Sorry - had to reboot the box halfway through the post.
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Charles Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:58:05pm |
The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."
We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.
A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.
Doggone it.
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:58:40pm |
re: #65 Cognito
Actually I think that's true. But then again it's the left who lowered those expectations. People started to take the SNL bit as serious commentary, and then -- lo, behold -- she's not a cartoon character. Oops.
She also played an extremely good rope-a-dope. You think she was REALLY flustered by a question about what magazines she reads? Brilliant strategy that paid off handsomely tonight.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:58:41pm |
re: #79 laZardo
Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."
She got wasted, didn't she...
Nope.... The Saraccuda ate a big fat lying democrat for supper....
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:58:47pm |
re: #74 ornery elephant
ABC's Donna Brazille: "Joe Biden clearly gave the performance of a lifetime"
Which may well be true, more's the pity for him.
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:58:51pm |
re: #40 Cognito
Got to say, I thought Gwen Ifill did a good job. Very fair.
She and the McCain campaign both knew she's be under close scrutiny.
To be fair, Gwen Ifill, when I've watched her, has always been remarkably balanced. I know she has her own set of opinions, but when I have watched her, she has been pretty fair.
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maddogg Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:00pm |
Looks to me like we're infiltrated with 6.3% mobies/trolls.
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Cognito Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:03pm |
re: #73 Racer X
Speaking of Liars On The Left™
Sandra Bernhard denies issuing Sarah Palin 'gang rape' warning
Anyone with a computer and Youtube access can go see exactly what she said. I won't link to it.
The Daily News is hilarious, here. Check out the top of the story, and look for the 'related' link embedded:
Sandra Bernhard denies issuing Sarah Palin 'gang rape' warning
BY KORIN MILLER
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, October 2nd 2008, 3:53 PMRothenberg for News
Sandra Bernhard
Outspoken comedienne Sandra Bernhard has shot down earlier reports that she said Sarah Palin would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers" if she enters Manhattan.
"I never said 'gang-raped' and I never used 'rape,' " Bernhard told the Daily News on Thursday.
The funnywoman was widely criticized after reportedly making the remark in her opening monologue during a show last month at Washington, D.C.'s Theater J.
RELATED: SANDRA BERNHARD ISSUES 'GANG RAPE' WARNING
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Cartman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:07pm |
50 votes for Biden, so far.
They only come out at night.
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Bobibutu Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:08pm |
re: #59 Pawn of the Oppressor
Please note that I'm not judging objective truth, I'm judging rhetorical strategy. Biden's only hope was to play Elder Statesman and attack McCain's record, which he did, and he hit pretty hard right in the weak spot - "This Maverick thing is a lie. Don't believe it. He's more of the same."
If we accept that - OK - But ... Palin is not.
And she could have been more aggressive -
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:27pm |
Hey all y'all - from the AP no less:
Palin stands her ground in VP debate with Biden
ST. LOUIS - Under intense scrutiny, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin stood her ground Thursday night against a vastly more experienced Joe Biden, debating the economy, energy and global warming, then challenging him on Iraq, "especially with your son in the National Guard."
The Alaska governor also noted that Biden had once said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama wasn't ready to be commander in chief, "and I know again that you opposed the move that he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and I respect you for that."
[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:28pm |
Would have been nice to see her field dress Biden afterwards. Instead she left his carcass for the wolves.
/it's a metaphor people.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:36pm |
re: #83 Charles
The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."
We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.
A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.
Doggone it.
You soooooo fucking rock Charles................................
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LockeOn Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:49pm |
I tried to vote Ron Paul but Charles and all his bias won't include the real maverick!
Wink Wink
High 5 PALIN!
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:49pm |
re: #79 laZardo
Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."
She got wasted, didn't she...
Joe Biden walked off stage and took a seat in the crowd, so he could get a good view of the Sarah Palin show. Just kidding! But he might as well have.
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wright1 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:55pm |
re: #63 JacksonTn
The meaning of love is to sacrifice yourself .......
I hear she loves Sarah too.
Yes, today is the feast of St. Theresa, the Little Flower and while I do not condone injecting her or God into something like politics, it is well to remember what the Little Flower stood for - steadfast trust in God. I guess some of us lost faith in Sarah, myself included. But she really did fine. I think she connected with the country and bypassed the elites...We have a foot in the door the MSM has been trying to shut.
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irongrampa Thu, Oct 2, 2008 8:59:56pm |
I think the heavy hitting on CRA's, Fannie and Freddie et al will come after the bailout voting is done. At that point I'd bet the whole laundry list will get pushes, and pushed hard.
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armytramp Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:00:04pm |
Am I the only one who was totally creeped out after the debate when Biden stood there and kept stroking Sarah's arm?
Ew.
This guy is obviously enchanted with her, but damn.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:00pm |
re: #88 maddogg
Looks to me like we're infiltrated with 6.3% mobies/trolls.
Na. Just 3.1%.
It is "bring a dead friend night" for them. Just like election day.
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:03pm |
dammit, I'm watching the DVR, and Billy Crystal just used the words, "Sarah Palin Show". Sorry, folks, I wasn't trying to steal lines or nothin'
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needlestack Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:03pm |
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:09pm |
re: #83 Charles
The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."
We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.
A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.
Doggone it.
More traffic means more ad clicks, which means more revenue!
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:15pm |
re: #79 laZardo
Overslept, missed the live debate...AP says Palin "stood her ground."
She got wasted, didn't she...
Not at all. She was the game changer we were waiting for.
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:18pm |
re: #88 maddogg
Looks to me like we're infiltrated with 6.3% mobies/trolls.
You can see them sipping Kool-Aid and eating with sporks.
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right Brain Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:25pm |
I was suggesting all week that the Couric interviews was a set-up of the MSM by Palin, her own little Rope-a-Dope. I suspect within 48 hrs that will be a standard conclusion I so want to stake my claim first.
Biden looked like he'd been tasered.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:31pm |
re: #26 Charles
The poll's open to all, by the way, so there are going to be some koolaid drinkers voting for Biden.
Palin crushed Biden's head. It was almost hard to watch. Not even close.
My nonpolitical wife (who didn't watch, only listened) agrees.
As does Drudge (a nice mix of liberals and conservatives).
My call: Palin, hands down. I'll sleep well tonight.
As I said to my better half, "Like I told a pollster, I'm voting for Palin, not the other three".
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:32pm |
re: #83 Charles
The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."
We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.
A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.
Doggone it.
You give me a joyful way to spend the late evenings and early mornings.
I thank you for your efforts.
I am humbled by your expenses.
Thank you.
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Typicalwhitey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:48pm |
re: #29 Syrah
I am sending the McCain-Palin campaign some of tomarows paycheck.
Pledge with me Lizards!
Let's send them some much need money.
Did she deliver or what?
Did you know that the RNC raised 66 Million in September?
Their BIGGEST fundraising month EVER
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:49pm |
re: #67 rawmuse
True, Biden got his licks in, but he more than negated them with those whoppers that fell out of his mouth.
I was disappointed that Ms. Palin did not lay the heavy lumber where it belonged as regards CRAs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. They were big fat softballs waiting be hit back.
See, that's exactly it - Sarah dogged him on some things, and she DID, FINALLY (for the first time in months) call out the McSame meme as being irritating, if not false. But she could have brutalized Obama on Fannie Mae, etc., shoved ACORN up Joe's tailpipe until he was coughing out squirrels, burned his whole ticket down to the ground by really hammering the McBush bullshit with withering sarcasm, and explicitly distanced both herself and McCain from Bush as best as possible. She indirectly acknowledged some of these things but didn't pursue them.
Nobody's perfect, and maybe she wanted to keep it civil and not seem bitchy. But Biden hit McCain/Palin at least as hard as Palin hit Obama/Biden. So I give an edge to Joe, for slightly better political strateegery.
In terms of character and appeal, though, Palin wins it by a mile.
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The Shadow Do Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:01:58pm |
The lefties will double down on the trash Palin talk first thing tomorrow. Guaranteeeeed!
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armytramp Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:08pm |
re: #74 ornery elephant
ABC's Donna Brazille: "Joe Biden clearly gave the performance of a lifetime"
I think i'm gonna be sick.
The only performance from Joe Biden was from his botox. It froze his entire face so that his head didn't spinnig around and spit pea soup every time he got pissed at something Sarah said that he didn't like.
Fortunately, it also froze his head so Smiky McSmirk Smirk could control himself while he was sneering the rest of the time. Or leering.
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:11pm |
re: #99 irongrampa
I think the heavy hitting on CRA's, Fannie and Freddie et al will come after the bailout voting is done. At that point I'd bet the whole laundry list will get pushes, and pushed hard.
Shit I hope so. I'm tired of watching McCain standing aside and not fight. If you get punched, you should punch back.
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:22pm |
re: #100 armytramp
This guy is obviously enchanted with her, but damn.
Thought balloon: "Where are the women like this in our party?"
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:25pm |
re: #74 ornery elephant
ABC's Donna Brazille: "Joe Biden clearly gave the performance of a lifetime"
I think i'm gonna be sick.
To be expected from Donna Brazile, Dem talking head and former Gore campaign manager, who not too long ago compared Barry to Jesus on national TV.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:33pm |
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:37pm |
re: #67 rawmuse
Hey, the next Presidential debate is supposed to be about the economy (the first was supposed to be on foreign affairs but they gave 30 minutes to the economic melt-down) and if McCain doesn't HAMMER
Obama about "as regards CRAs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc." then I think McCain might just as well give up all over, not just in Michigan.
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:38pm |
Biden was his usual bloviating self, but he's not a foul as Obama. Would love to see the 'cuda debate obama
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jaunte Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:42pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Wrong. 2nd comment is too soon to start taking your opinions seriously.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:44pm |
Whew, I made it upstairs. (I hope I didn't kill a hamster in the process)
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Canadhimmis Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:02:46pm |
I think that Palin did a terrific job and that bin Biden was his usual windbag of mediocrity.
Last hour or so I've been watching the resident ideologues at CNN. They reluctantly admit that she performed well or beyond (their) expectations, while simultaneously trying to convince the viewer (and themselves, I think) that her performance can't possibly help the GOP in the polls. Of course, a bad performance would have cost McCain large but a good one can't really help. Always pathetic levels of bias at the marxist fellating CNN.
As far as Gwen Ifill goes - she was fine, and did a professional job. I have no complaints as far as her moderation is concerned.
She appeared professional moderate but I tend to think that was a result of her being effectively neutered by the last couple of days of controversy regarding her blatant conflict of interest. If she would have assumed default mode she would have been the attack dog against things conservative, especially Sarah Palin. And that would have been very damaging to her career. She acted in self-preservation, not out of any sense of fairness or moderation.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:03:04pm |
re: #83 Charles
The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."
We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.
A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for my mortgage. In other words, big bucks.
Doggone it.
Name your price. You might be surprised that people are wiling to pay at least part of it each.
/it's only 30 days
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NoSpam Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:03:05pm |
That was simply beautiful...
Palin, though she seemed a bit nervous at times, was composed, calm, and cheerful.
Biden, who has the absolute worst poker face ever, looked cranky and squinty (seriously, Joe, Botox?), and was making those creepy stalker smug heavy breathing noises into his mike when Palin was talking, and would then get all angry and go on teh bushrant, even after she told him not to. (Oh, that line was the best.)
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:03:30pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
Fuck off.
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:03:30pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
Douchebag
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maddogg Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:03:33pm |
There's one now! Quick! get a rolled up newspaper!
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:04:03pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Registered since: Feb 18, 2008 at 6:46 pm
No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0
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NoSpam Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:04:04pm |
re: #83 Charles
The poor hamsters...Please give them hugs and extra pellets for me...
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:04:23pm |
re: #105 Archimedes
gotta spend money to make money.
3 x a California mortgage payment, really? Bionic Hamsters cost that much?
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CalipHater Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:04:28pm |
RON PAUL!
I miss the good old days... Only thing close are the Obamabots on CNN.com, but they're just tiresome and aren't very good for a laugh
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Oldasdirt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:04:39pm |
I think we need to give a big hand to Charles,,(Charles,do you know how many were here tonight?)
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:04:43pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
Sarah makes me proud to be a republican again. Deal with it.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:04:45pm |
re: #113 Pawn of the Oppressor
[SNIP]
In terms of character and appeal, though, Palin wins it by a mile.
Which is what counts.
Everybody watching wanted Joe to quit talking to see what Sarah had to say.
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yesandno Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:05:02pm |
re: #67 rawmuse
True, Biden got his licks in, but he more than negated them with those whoppers that fell out of his mouth.
I was disappointed that Ms. Palin did not lay the heavy lumber where it belonged as regards CRAs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. They were big fat softballs waiting be hit back.
We forget that the very people we think should know all of this stuff...even the McCain people...may not be as well informed as you are. They may not be aware of it. Hard to believe, but true.
And it is hard to get the history into a short sound bite.
Mostly, I think they were trying to get her on board with the foreign policy stuff. The economic story is not that old and the history of it all isn't public knowledge, and McCain is not strong on the economy himself...so they are behind the curve of LGF...as usual!
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:05:05pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
Hey Sharm
I think Sarah won, and the loser was not Joe Biden, but the msm who has done darn near everything they can to pain Sarah as unqualified and incapable of handling the position.
Yep! And I loved her comment that she liked the debate format where she could discuss her views directly to the American people without the filter of the MSM! Take that Charlie and Katie! *whack*!
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Typicalwhitey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:05:35pm |
re: #121 realwest
Hey, the next Presidential debate is supposed to be about the economy (the first was supposed to be on foreign affairs but they gave 30 minutes to the economic melt-down) and if McCain doesn't HAMMER
Obama about "as regards CRAs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc." then I think McCain might just as well give up all over, not just in Michigan.
Hey real!
He will, Sarah does not have the depth of knowledge on that issue for her to address it tonight.
McCain does.
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:05:49pm |
Would love to +ding a lot of LGF comments, but it doesn't seem to be working right now.......
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:05:54pm |
re: #144 realwest
I loved that part but was unable to get a comment about it to post.
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wright1 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:07pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
No. Don't agree. She cuts through the policy wonk B.S. which really is a whole lot of spin control. She does not speak Biden's language because it is all rhetoric. Honesty and rhetoric do not live in the same home. Biden may have good rhetoric, but people who are down to earth know he is full of - well, I won't say it but you know the word.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:22pm |
AH, ONE MORE THING:
Something we need to keep pounding on, to hammer away at the "Joe Biden, foreign policy sooper-genius" meme:
So apparently, under the Bush Administration, "we and the French threw Hizballah out of Lebanon, but then let them back in, and wouldn't let NATO in".
What THE F**K was Biden talking about?! This alleged foreign policy guru is just making shit up. Incredible.
I do hope the conservative blogosphere and media keep that one alive. Biden told a massive whopper, or displayed astounding ignorance, or both.
Maybe FDR threw Hizballah out of Lebanon just prior to his 1929 televised fireside chat?
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Spirit93 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:24pm |
re: #83 Charles
LGF was basically non-functioning for me during this debate and the last debate was pretty bad too.
Maybe it's time for a subscription based 'LGF prime' - some sort of preferred access for those willing to feed the hamsters.
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:37pm |
re: #103 needlestack
needlestack in 1980:
"Jimmy Carter is just so much more experienced. Reagan's just a stupid actor, I mean, come on! What does the Governor of California know about foreign policy and getting our hostages back?"
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PuritanicalRightWingNutjob Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:43pm |
First post on LGF, but alas, as Devil's Advocate:
Biden spoke better than Palin. Not to say he didn't go off topic less than she did, but he disguised it better. Palin got caught having to agree with Biden every other minute. Didn't challenge his assertions, didn't call him on making up numbers out of thin air. Almost called him on threatening to prosecute former Bush administration officials, but didn't quite make it. I pray she's not as McCainified as she appeared.
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Unquiet Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:45pm |
Based on the same "science" as the consensus supporting ex-stream changes to deal with Global Warming; Palin for Lifetime Leader of the Society of Individuals who will Take Care of Themselves!
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zombie Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:54pm |
re: #83 Charles
The server load is starting to come down from "critical" to just "insane."
We did slow down, yes. But keep in mind - at this time last year, we would have been offline all night with this kind of traffic.
A load balanced setup would help, but it brings a whole host of issues along with it, not least of which is the fact that it would cost about three times per month what I'm currently paying for ...
Charles, I highly recommend you edit your comment to get rid of the subsequent two words. (LA County Hall of Records, and all that.) Feel free to delete this comment also if you deem it necessary.
You may not feel it's needed but I thought I should point it out.
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:54pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
Fuck you.
McCain ain't a conservative.
And Palin is made of the same stuff as Reagan.
Go piss up a rope.
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maddogg Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:56pm |
re: #146 Inquisitive
Would love to +ding a lot of LGF comments, but it doesn't seem to be working right now.......
The - button works, be sure to ding needledick.
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:06:58pm |
re: #94 Racer X
Would have been nice to see her field dress Biden afterwards. Instead she left his carcass for the wolves.
/it's a metaphor people.
Donna Brazile, though I dislike her, did have a good line - "no moose in the headlights moments."
Though there were a few good shots from Palin on old Joe. I especially liked how she hit him with "Say it ain't so, Joe."
Old Joe, on the other hand, had no zip moments. He probably was Mr. Sulky tonight because he was told not to pick on Palin.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:05pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
FU, dweeb. I hope that sounded intelligent, but I'm certain it sounded rational.
Palin destroyed Biden.
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Ringo the Gringo Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:11pm |
I voted for Palin, but really - politically speaking - it was a draw.
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Typicalwhitey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:24pm |
re: #103 needlestackGood lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
hmmmm...needle...uh....stack..nic is off a bit LOL
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:25pm |
re: #140 Sharmuta
Sarah makes me proud to be a republican again. Deal with it.
Sarah makes me proud to be a homo sapien. Barack makes me wish I were, well, some other phylum.
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armytramp Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:33pm |
OK needlestack, I'll take you on.
This woman has never done a major debate in her entire life, has never run for national office, has had five weeks to prepare, and was 7 years old when Biden was doing his first debates.
I think she stood up there and handled herself pretty well.
Especially when Biden decided to give her a little stroke. And I do mean stroke.
Dudes, watch the replay after the debate. He could have started a fire rubbing her arm like that.
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George guy Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:38pm |
There must be a whole art form of making accounts on LGF just to hold them for a carefully timed trolling.
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wishing Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:39pm |
re: #64 The Shadow Do
Yup, I expect she checked the crap at the coat check on the way in.
Yes, Ifill did a good job, except for cutting Sarah off several times. I thought Joe's comment about having to hurry because his time was about up was juvenile: it was like he was saying, See! I am ready for the VP because i know the difference between a green light and a red light!
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Cartman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:47pm |
NeedleStackDick
Registered since: Feb 18, 2008 at 6:46 pm
No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0
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Mich-again Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:48pm |
re: #103 needlestack
grow a pair? Is that all you got lefty?
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:49pm |
HEY ALL Y'ALL - did anyone else hear Biden say, with regards to the economy, that under Obama and Biden, Lenders were not only going to have to lower the interest rates on bad mortgages, but have to lower the PRINCIPAL too?!
WHAT?
OH, wait, if the Lenders legally could do that, that would be forgiveness of debt and would be taxable to the homeowner!
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:07:57pm |
re: #150 Spirit93
LGF was basically non-functioning for me during this debate and the last debate was pretty bad too.
Maybe it's time for a subscription based 'LGF prime' - some sort of preferred access for those willing to feed the hamsters.
Me too, I hung with the Hot Air crowd
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:06pm |
re: #152 PuritanicalRightWingNutjob
Palin got caught having to agree with Biden every other minute.
What debate were you watching?!
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willowone Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:11pm |
i'm off to sleep, this has been the nicest pre-sleep night in days, thank you Sarah, and McCain
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mama winger Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:19pm |
re: #103 needlestack
I have a pair and here's my spade:
Sarah Palin speaks for me. Heck, she speaks just LIKE me. (We even have the same accent)
I have been politically active since 1976. The only candidate that ever came close to speaking for me was Ronald Reagan. His ideas were my ideas. His vision of America was my vision.
In Sarah , I have those same ideas, that same vision, but in the form of a woman, a mother of a soldier, a woman with a handicapped family member, a conservative, and evangelical, a supporter of Israel and a strong pro-life voice. She is ME. I have REPRESENTATION.
Heck - if it were not for that whole beauty queen thing, we could be twins.
I am not only supporting her, I am ecstatic about it!
So there is my spade, and you are welcome to it.
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Typicalwhitey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:38pm |
re: #152 PuritanicalRightWingNutjob
First post on LGF, but alas, as Devil's Advocate:
Biden spoke better than Palin. Not to say he didn't go off topic less than she did, but he disguised it better. Palin got caught having to agree with Biden every other minute. Didn't challenge his assertions, didn't call him on making up numbers out of thin air. Almost called him on threatening to prosecute former Bush administration officials, but didn't quite make it. I pray she's not as McCainified as she appeared.
Of course.
Earning your Obamabot points tonight?
Good job!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:40pm |
re: #75 Dar ul Harb
Well, I'm not so sure how well that's really going to work, considering how many Republicans know how McCain has crossed the aisle so many times (pissing us off!), and Democrats know that too. If you want a center-right government, McCain's going to be the guy. If you're looking for Marxism-lite, the Dear Leader 0bama needs your vote.
I'd rather die than vote for a fucking Alinskyite Marxist punk bitch like Obama, so let's clear that up right now. His little Mocha Messiah ass should stick to playing President on TV, where he belongs.
But I am from the Northeast, I understand how those people think, I'm a centrist/libertarian myself, and I don't want the Republicans to trip over their own shoes. Repubs are at least as cringe- and sigh-inducing as the Dems, at their worst, and I hate seeing them miss opportunities to burn down the house just so they can feel good about their own mom-and-apple-pie kinder-and-kueche talk.
Call the bastards out, kneecap them, don't let them get away with it. Sarah is a great start, but McCain needs to start putting sidewinders up Commie exhaust pipes here.
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:44pm |
re: #149 Occasional Reader
AH, ONE MORE THING:
Something we need to keep pounding on, to hammer away at the "Joe Biden, foreign policy sooper-genius" meme:
So apparently, under the Bush Administration, "we and the French threw Hizballah out of Lebanon, but then let them back in, and wouldn't let NATO in".
What THE F**K was Biden talking about?! This alleged foreign policy guru is just making shit up. Incredible.
I do hope the conservative blogosphere and media keep that one alive. Biden told a massive whopper, or displayed astounding ignorance, or both.
Maybe FDR threw Hizballah out of Lebanon just prior to his 1929 televised fireside chat?
Why not just make up facts on the fly, when you know that no one in the major media outlets are going to call you on it, no matter what?
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:50pm |
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:08:53pm |
re: #152 PuritanicalRightWingNutjob
First post on LGF, but alas, as Devil's Advocate:
Biden spoke better than Palin. Not to say he didn't go off topic less than she did, but he disguised it better. Palin got caught having to agree with Biden every other minute. Didn't challenge his assertions, didn't call him on making up numbers out of thin air. Almost called him on threatening to prosecute former Bush administration officials, but didn't quite make it. I pray she's not as McCainified as she appeared.
Lots of bullshit there for a first post
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:04pm |
re: #121 realwest
I think McCain would have a hard time bringing up CRA/CArter/Acorn and all unless there were more info about it in the MSM leading up to the debate.
People, unfortunately, don't want to go back that far in history. (Realize that most people an only remember who won American Idol 2 years ago and that many of the electorate weren't speaking in sentences when Carter was in Office). To buy alcohol in most states one has to have been born in 1987.
There has been a big lack of history teaching in public schools. If the listeners weren't pre-educated about the whole mess, they'd just assume that McCain was lieing and blaming Carter/Clinton. Because, you know Jimmah is that nice old man that builds houses . . . ..
Bill Clinton seems also to be working against Obambi, so bringing him into the mess may not be a good idea.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:12pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
On pure capitalist/individual rights basis I can find lots of fault with what she said, but in the context of our times, I think she did a good job. And, for crying out loud, she is much more qualified than either Obama or Biden. That should be obvious to anyone who is real world oriented. And man does she have a great sense of life.
Hey, I'd love to see Thomas Jefferson and James Madison running, but we live in times where lofty ideas by giants aren't going to be listened to.
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:23pm |
I'll call a spade a spade: Palin won in SPADES!
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The Shadow Do Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:35pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
She is your future, fool. Acclimate if you can.
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yesandno Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:40pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
Racist! Sexist!
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:41pm |
re: #139 Oldasdirt
I dont' have a big hand. I have two small ones. Will they do?
Here, here CHARLES!
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:43pm |
re: #149 Occasional Reader
So apparently, under the Bush Administration, "we and the French threw Hizballah out of Lebanon, but then let them back in, and wouldn't let NATO in".
What THE F**K was Biden talking about?! This alleged foreign policy guru is just making shit up. Incredible.
I'll have to review the Tivo.
Meanwhile, The Architect, back on Fox.
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:53pm |
#103 needlestack............I'll go along........ with Mandy's #115
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nyc redneck Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:09:54pm |
re: #89 Cognito
of course the idiot won't stand behind her creative performance art now
since it wasn't well received.
if had been, she wouldn't be back tracking.
her integrity is worth shit.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:10:12pm |
re: #159 Ringo the Gringo
I voted for Palin, but really - politically speaking - it was a draw.
In a strawman's mind. Are you are strawman, Ringo?
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Intrepid Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:10:20pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Did you not have your nap today? You shouldn't be up so late at night. Go ask your mom for a glass of water and head off to bed, buckaroo.
Leave the real discussions to the adults.
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Wishing Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:10:37pm |
re: #81 nyc redneck
i loved the family coming up at the end. little piper carrying the baby. the two other girls. todd, just beaming at his wife. these are good people.
and that is what pisses off the MSM
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ornery elephant Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:10:54pm |
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:10:55pm |
1263 lizards or viewers have voted in the poll.
Charles, are you feeding the hamsters gatorade? I think they need it.
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Charles Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:11:03pm |
re: #154 zombie
Charles, I highly recommend you edit your comment to get rid of the subsequent two words. (LA County Hall of Records, and all that.) Feel free to delete this comment also if you deem it necessary.
You may not feel it's needed but I thought I should point it out.
There are levels within levels, oh grasshopper.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:11:16pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Uh you know, you're right. But she is MORE qualified than is Obama.
Next.
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Infidel_One Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:11:24pm |
Couple times you could see Biden hurt by Palins jabs....
She won on points, but I wanted to see a knockout.
Fox has her winning by huge numbers...
CNN has Biden winning.
And I won't even look at the other "news sites"
Can we have a poll on who won the Oreilly/Frank fight on Fox
Geez I kinda have a bit of respect for Bill after watching him
slam Barney.
To bad they weren't in the same room. Fists would have flown.
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wright1 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:11:36pm |
re: #152 PuritanicalRightWingNutjob
First post on LGF, but alas, as Devil's Advocate:
Biden spoke better than Palin. Not to say he didn't go off topic less than she did, but he disguised it better. Palin got caught having to agree with Biden every other minute. Didn't challenge his assertions, didn't call him on making up numbers out of thin air. Almost called him on threatening to prosecute former Bush administration officials, but didn't quite make it. I pray she's not as McCainified as she appeared.
She may have missed some opportunities -true. But she connected with the country more - period. Sorry for those of you who want to believe your guy one - you are wrong -she did.
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spirochete Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:11:53pm |
re: #129 Killian Bundy
Name your price. You might be surprised that people are wiling to pay at least part of it each.
/it's only 30 days
Roger that.
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:12:03pm |
re: #141 jwb7605
Which is what counts.
Everybody watching wanted Joe to quit talking to see what Sarah had to say.
Absolutely. The focus group on Fox - all but two people were blown away, and I have never seen that happen before.
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CynicalConservative Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:12:13pm |
re: #150 Spirit93
LGF was basically non-functioning for me during this debate and the last debate was pretty bad too.
Maybe it's time for a subscription based 'LGF prime' - some sort of preferred access for those willing to feed the hamsters.
I don't think a "prime" is the right direction but I'd encourage Lizards who haven't yet to make contributions to Charles (Myself included....) to consider directing something to him. I personally have learned so much in the few months that I have been a member here that I feel I must contribute to keep the hamsters running at top speed. Just one mans opinion...
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:12:21pm |
re: #189 Wishing
and that is what pisses off the MSM
And the "beaming" Todd is what pissed of Maureen Dowd and the rest of her perennially unmarried women crowd
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:12:37pm |
re: #103 needlestack
GAZE. Ignore the trolls, folks. They'll keep popping a lot until 11/4.
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Bobibutu Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:12:53pm |
re: #167 realwest
HEY ALL Y'ALL - did anyone else hear Biden say, with regards to the economy, that under Obama and Biden, Lenders were not only going to have to lower the interest rates on bad mortgages, but have to lower the PRINCIPAL too?!
WHAT?
OH, wait, if the Lenders legally could do that, that would be forgiveness of debt and would be taxable to the homeowner!
Yeah - I went into a translunar trajectory on that one. What a ding dong. Guess who will vote for him?
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:13:05pm |
re: #185 Inquisitive
#103 needlestack............I'll go along........ with Mandy's #115
Me too.... Now lets watch the down ding avalanche.............
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CommonCents Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:13:24pm |
Did anyone catch what Gwen was saying to the candidates at the very end as they were all thanking each other? She had some words for Biden that were a little more than "thank you" but I was too busy doing my touchdown dance to catch it.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:13:24pm |
re: #172 Typicalwhitey
Of course.
Earning your Obamabot points tonight?
Good job!
Don't you just love that sneaky username, PuritanicalRightWingNutjob?
Doesn't it just give you a tingle? And a first post, no less!
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lagtime Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:13:31pm |
#83 Charles
Guess you should apply to Dodd and Frank and Pelosi for a bailout for your high priced mortgage
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mama winger Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:13:52pm |
re: #173 Pawn of the Oppressor
But I am from the Northeast, I understand how those people think,
I am from the Midwest, and frankly (no offense meant to you) we are so way tired of the way those people think.
That's why we love Sarah. She ain't that.
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Slumbering Behemoth Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:13:53pm |
My silly internet poll: By a show of hands, how many of you have NEVER been polled?
/wait for it....
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thriggle Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:13:56pm |
I was frustrated that Biden seemed to get the last word on most topics, leaving his accusatory statements hanging un-rebutted.
And while the content of Biden's speech was all B.S., I have to admit, he sounded a bit more sure of himself than Governor Palin, who came across--at least initially--as somewhat nervous (although that may be attributable to her quick way of talking and her naturally high-pitched voice).
Palin arguably held her own, but it wasn't enough; I'm hoping McCain will cream Obama in the next two debates.
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Ringo the Gringo Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:08pm |
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:10pm |
re: #169 Sharmuta
I think she was stressing her ability to not be a partisan hack. Biden towed the party line thru and thru.
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:12pm |
re: #167 realwest
HEY ALL Y'ALL - did anyone else hear Biden say, with regards to the economy, that under Obama and Biden, Lenders were not only going to have to lower the interest rates on bad mortgages, but have to lower the PRINCIPAL too?!
WHAT?
OH, wait, if the Lenders legally could do that, that would be forgiveness of debt and would be taxable to the homeowner!
I caught that too RW! I was yelling at the TV - why would any lender reduce principle on a loan?
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:13pm |
re: #202 Wishing
SARAH MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A REPUBLICAN.
Me too, and my attractive barracuda pendants arrived today. Great timing, subtle political statement for work
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Charles Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:23pm |
re: #129 Killian Bundy
Name your price. You might be surprised that people are wiling to pay at least part of it each.
/it's only 30 days
Unfortunately, you don't just "temporarily" move to a load balanced setup for 30 days. It entails code changes, database changes, contracts, and commitments.
If I made this move, it would be permanent.
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:43pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
Three problems with that, pardner.
I love Sarah Palin - choosing her immensely improved the ticket for me, because Senator McCain was not in my top five choices for nominee.
I'm a Democrat.
I would rather not "grow a pair," as I am female.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:44pm |
re: #210 Slumbering Behemoth
My silly internet poll: By a show of hands, how many of you have NEVER been polled?
/wait for it....
Raises hand..............
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CommonCents Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:51pm |
re: #194 Infidel_One
Couple times you could see Biden hurt by Palins jabs....
She won on points, but I wanted to see a knockout.
Fox has her winning by huge numbers...
CNN has Biden winning.
And I won't even look at the other "news sites"
Can we have a poll on who won the Oreilly/Frank fight on Fox
Geez I kinda have a bit of respect for Bill after watching him
slam Barney.
To bad they weren't in the same room. Fists would have flown.
I got out the smelling salts and went to MSNBC and even the Olbef*ck was saying it was a deadheat (actually he called it a 7-6 game). That's an admission of defeat by the left if I ever heard one.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:52pm |
re: #136 ggt
gotta spend money to make money.
3 x a California mortgage payment, really? Bionic Hamsters cost that much?
True. It may also be a matter of spikes in traffic. If the average is well below the spike, then the extra cost of the server through put would be like using a Buggatti Veyron 16 cylinder engine, when you only need a Plymouth Duster 225 slant 6.
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nyc redneck Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:14:54pm |
sarah is so much more qualified than obama.
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:05pm |
I think I'll have to stay up and watch o'reilly slap around barney frank.
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:11pm |
re: #156 maddogg
The - button works, be sure to ding needledick.
Believe me I tried........clicked it 5 times.......my + & - is not working for some reason tonight .
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:13pm |
re: #75 Dar ul Harb
Well, I'm not so sure how well that's really going to work, considering how many Republicans know how McCain has crossed the aisle so many times (pissing us off!), and Democrats know that too. If you want a center-right government, McCain's going to be the guy. If you're looking for Marxism-lite, the Dear Leader 0bama needs your vote.
Not to mention all of the times that Biden spoke on the record in praise of McCain as a maverick and a bipartisan.
Note that Palin used that strategy actively in this debate: she criticized Biden's past positions, knowing that he is constitutionally incapable of admitting his past position was wrong and is compulsively driven to defend HIMSELF at the expense of his TICKET. He was defensive and he misspoke, and he set her up to win.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:23pm |
re: #149 Occasional Reader
AH, ONE MORE THING:
Something we need to keep pounding on, to hammer away at the "Joe Biden, foreign policy sooper-genius" meme:
So apparently, under the Bush Administration, "we and the French threw Hizballah out of Lebanon, but then let them back in, and wouldn't let NATO in".
What THE F**K was Biden talking about?! This alleged foreign policy guru is just making shit up. Incredible.
I do hope the conservative blogosphere and media keep that one alive. Biden told a massive whopper, or displayed astounding ignorance, or both.
Maybe FDR threw Hizballah out of Lebanon just prior to his 1929 televised fireside chat?
Oh yeah, that whole Hezbo/Palestine thing was about five whole paragraphs of Dubyah-Tee-Eff. "What is he even talking about?"
- I don't recall anybody worrying about Hamas winning elections until AFTER they won. In fact, I thought Hamas was "moderate" and "represented the people"?
- What happened to Hezbo being a "social organization"? What's with a Democrat calling them bad? Didn't Biden just flush Dearborn down the toilet for Obama?
- What is this bullshit about Bush policy towards Israel/Palestine being a failure, and that McCain is more of the same? Uh, hello, Condi and Bush are swinging BACK to the Bush/Baker/State Dept. line, which has been a proven failure for as long as Biden has been working in Washington... Now even Bush's Palestinian policy is tainted somehow? Buhwah?
- Are we admitting that Hezbo is an Iranian proxy now?
Biden and Obama are both really intent on dumping their base to sound knowledgeable on these matters... They're not just flip-flopping, they're making it all up on the fly. It's amazing.
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maddogg Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:26pm |
Anybody with a nic of PuritanicalRightWingNutjob has GOT to be a moby.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:29pm |
re: #167 realwest
Wouldnt you just love to see that 2nd set of books someone in Washington is keeping? There is so much f@cking money drained from us it is amazing to me.
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wright1 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:41pm |
re: #206 CommonCents
Did anyone catch what Gwen was saying to the candidates at the very end as they were all thanking each other? She had some words for Biden that were a little more than "thank you" but I was too busy doing my touchdown dance to catch it.
I think she actually said "You did a great job!"
She may also have said I will see you in January... (No I did not hear that but she might have well have said it)
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rightside Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:44pm |
Damn, of all the times to have to work late, tonight is the night! Looks like I'll have to watch jihadtube or somewhere else to see the debate. Sounds like a missed a good one!
*T^@!@^#*(#& Biden and Obama!
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hermit Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:15:53pm |
re: #210 Slumbering Behemoth
one of the few perk of being a hermit...
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:16:17pm |
re: #217 Catttt
Three problems with that, pardner.
I love Sarah Palin - choosing her immensely improved the ticket for me, because Senator McCain was not in my top five choices for nominee.
I'm a Democrat.
I would rather not "grow a pair," as I am female.
I'd like to squash the troll with my spade
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armytramp Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:16:33pm |
re: #200 SpartanWoman
And the "beaming" Todd is what pissed of Maureen Dowd and the rest of her perennially unmarried women crowd
I would like to go on record as a perennially unmarried woman for Sarah Palin.
Not that I'm into chick love or anything, I'm just not married.
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flynmudd Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:16:57pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Keep listening to those voices in your head.
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Tigger2005 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:17:03pm |
I voted for Sarah.
But I really wanted to vote for Ron Paul!
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Oldasdirt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:17:18pm |
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:17:54pm |
re: #228 ggt
Wouldnt you just love to see that 2nd set of books someone in Washington is keeping? There is so much f@cking money drained from us it is amazing to me.
I would be scared to death to look into those books. Because you just have to know they are the genuine for real, If I let you see it I will have to kill you deal.
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:17:57pm |
re: #233 armytramp
I would like to go on record as a perennially unmarried woman for Sarah Palin.
Not that I'm into chick love or anything, I'm just not married.
Dowd just reeks with jealousy. I bet she's hot for Limbaugh
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Ojoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:02pm |
re: #37 Catttt
It was her feast day a few days ago. I'll e mail you a photo of a church dedicated to her in the LA area.
Except, where's your e-mail on that web page?
I will check tomorrow.
Good Night All
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:09pm |
re: #216 Charles
Unfortunately, you don't just "temporarily" move to a load balanced setup for 30 days. It entails code changes, database changes, contracts, and commitments.
If I made this move, it would be permanent.
Roughly how much would each of us have to donate?
This is about twice I've seen your blog being 'the one to refer to'.
I'm not just askin', and I don't donate to lost causes.
Expect to be more busier in the future.
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:16pm |
re: #224 stuiec
Not to mention all of the times that Biden spoke on the record in praise of McCain as a maverick and a bipartisan.
Note that Palin used that strategy actively in this debate: she criticized Biden's past positions, knowing that he is constitutionally incapable of admitting his past position was wrong and is compulsively driven to defend HIMSELF at the expense of his TICKET. He was defensive and he misspoke, and he set her up to win.
I think that was exactly what Giuliani was talking about when he called it one of the best debate performances he'd ever seen in his life.
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killerjoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:21pm |
dodgers 9
cubs 1
palin kicks ass
is this a great country or what?
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Cartman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:30pm |
Drive-by trolls are amazing. I just picture them sitting there with their pointy little tinfoil hats on, hunched over a grimy keyboard, sweating profusely from the pits, taking 3 hours to compose their filth, coping a squat and letting the crap fly, and then slithering off into the night, not to be heard from again for three or four months.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:35pm |
re: #206 CommonCents
She told him "Good Job" or "You did Great." My husband caught it, I didn't. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was a telling moment.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:36pm |
re: #209 mama winger
I am from the Midwest, and frankly (no offense meant to you) we are so way tired of the way those people think.
That's why we love Sarah. She ain't that.
Should I tell you why I moved to Texas as soon as I was able? :)
Massachusetts is the only state that's posting a net loss of its (legal, registered U.S. citizen) population. There are many reasons. The prissy, un-self-conscious arrogance of the Northeastern Elitists is about #6 on my personal list. I got sick to death of it.
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jaunte Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:41pm |
Sarah Palin has principles. It may not seem as important to Obamites as having a head overcrammed with factoids, but it makes a critical difference to those of us out here in the country that have been watching Biden and the other circusmembers for years.
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wright1 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:43pm |
re: #219 CommonCents
I got out the smelling salts and went to MSNBC and even the Olbef*ck was saying it was a deadheat (actually he called it a 7-6 game). That's an admission of defeat by the left if I ever heard one.
Well that is a shocka. But anyway as for who won, stylpe points count and on style, Sarahcuda won and Biden with his smarmy smile l-o-s-t
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mattm Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:18:47pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
I think Sarah won, and the loser was not Joe Biden, but the msm who has done darn near everything they can to pain Sarah as unqualified and incapable of handling the position. I think more people tonight will have come to the conclusion the the msm is blowing smoke for 0bama and the ratings and readership will continue their downward spiral.
Unless they are a Obama spuuorterfollower.
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:19:05pm |
re: #194 Infidel_One
Couple times you could see Biden hurt by Palins jabs....
She won on points, but I wanted to see a knockout.
Fox has her winning by huge numbers...
CNN has Biden winning.
And I won't even look at the other "news sites"
Can we have a poll on who won the Oreilly/Frank fight on Fox
Geez I kinda have a bit of respect for Bill after watching him
slam Barney.
To bad they weren't in the same room. Fists would have flown.
(Emphasis mine)
I'd say, if someone puts the video of it up on YouTube, go for it! :D :D :D :D
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The Shadow Do Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:19:28pm |
re: #227 maddogg
Anybody with a nic of PuritanicalRightWingNutjob has GOT to be a moby.
It could have used IamaMoby. But maybe it was already taken.
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:19:29pm |
Hey koskids - go check out the post I laid on those LGFers! I totally p0wned them!
then ran away
- needledick
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:19:30pm |
re: #210 Slumbering Behemoth
My silly internet poll: By a show of hands, how many of you have NEVER been polled?
/wait for it....
I have, twice. And I work in the industry too.
Many people hang up on us thinking we are some kind of "sales" call.
Listen to the full intro.
If it is a poll, it can be fun. If it is a sales call, hang up on their ass.
Sarah was great tonight.
This was a good day.
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rightside Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:19:52pm |
Did Eyefull(sic) say anything about her book coming out? You know, in the interest of full disclosure?
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mama winger Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:00pm |
re: #242 killerjoe
dodgers 9
cubs 1
palin kicks ass
is this a great country or what?
YES!
well except for that whole Cubs score thing
I am a Die Hard since 1958. That sound you hear is my heart breaking.
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spirochete Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:10pm |
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laZardo Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:34pm |
re: #255 mama winger
I'm thinking with a record like that, Las Vegas could use a baseball team...
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:36pm |
re: #254 rightside
Did Eyefull(sic) say anything about her book coming out? You know, in the interest of full disclosure?
Nope.... not one single hint of a suggestion of a word....
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:41pm |
re: #247 wright1
Well that is a shocka. But anyway as for who won, stylpe points count and on style, Sarahcuda won and Biden with his smarmy smile l-o-s-t
Biden' eye lift was a big error. He looks ghastly
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:45pm |
re: #220 Archimedes
I know. It's a tough situation. I sooooo wanted to be with you all tonite, but just couldnt' make it.
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wright1 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:53pm |
re: #233 armytramp
We hope there are more of you - it is ok, you can say she is cute (sort of like how Joe Paschi said to Fred Gwynne in "My cousin Vinny" - "and, she 's kinda cute..."
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mama winger Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:20:55pm |
re: #245 Pawn of the Oppressor
Should I tell you why I moved to Texas as soon as I was able? :)
Good pawn. Good good pawn :)
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Ojoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:21:01pm |
re: #200 SpartanWoman
Maureen Dowd and the rest of her perennially unmarried women crowd
Dry husks.
/sorry
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:21:11pm |
re: #178 ggt
I understand what you're saying, but one of the reasons for a presidential debate is to inform the public.
Seems to me it would take John Mcain about one minute (and probably less) to say "in 1998, the Democratic Congress signed the Community Reinvestment Act which REQUIRED LENDERS to make mortgage loans to borrowers with bad Credit. Senator Obama was not yet a US Senator, but he hasn't spoken out about this CRA, WHICH STARTED THE WHOLE SUBPRIME MORTGAGE CRISIS and I'd like to know what he thinks of it?" He could leave out Carter and ACORN and just hit Obama with it - either Obama won't know about it (hard to believe but with the king of er's,ah's and uh's you can never tell) or won't know what to say about it. And if Obama DOES know about it and says it was designed to help poor minority folks to own their own home, then McCain could easily say "Oh, I get it, tax folks making over $250,000, but give poor credit risks a mortgage that the taxpayers will have to bail out. I'll ask you what my running mate asked your running mate last Thursday - how long do you intend to wage class warfare on America?"!
YEAH, there's enough time for that. Even if we aren't rich (boy ain't that the truth) we'd like our children to have the chance to become rich. Class warfare won't play well; it didn't tonight and Biden actually grimmaced when Palin mentioned it.
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:21:13pm |
re: #244 ggt
She told him "Good Job" or "You did Great." My husband caught it, I didn't. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was a telling moment.
I couldn't believe it. It was disgusting.
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:21:27pm |
re: #254 rightside
Did Eyefull(sic) say anything about her book coming out? You know, in the interest of full disclosure?
Didn't have to. It was already out there. Thanks to Michelle Malkin!
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Drill_Thrawl Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:21:33pm |
re: #64 The Shadow Do
Yup, I expect she checked the crap at the coat check on the way in.
Disagree! Biden got the last word on almost every question. He also seemed to go over time limits a number of times.
Finally
Last audible words from Gwen Ifill (spoken to Joe Biden)
“You did great! You and Obama are doing great!”
Unbiased my @$$
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Dahveed Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:21:51pm |
I did not watch a lick of the debate. I was too busy drinking and watching the Cubbies fail miserably. I really do not anticipate watching it. Was it a "hit it out of the ballpark win" or did she just solidify the base like she would have anyway?
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killerjoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:01pm |
re: #255 mama winger
sorry mama, I've been since about 58 or 59, but I from lala land.
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Mich-again Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:07pm |
re: #103 needledick
You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest.
What nonsense. First, real conservatives don't love McCain. We just think he'll make a better President than Obama. Sarah Palin is closer to a real conservative than is McCain.
Second, who the hell are you to tell me or anyone else they are being simply dishonest about anything at all. What, are you a mind reader?
You're an asswipe for making such a stupid post. You need to grow one. A brain that is.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:20pm |
Cliffster plused needledick.......... hmmmmm Needledick has a friend?
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JacksonTn Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:22pm |
Now they need to pack up the kids and go on tour. All of them ......McCain and Palin tour across the swing states. Don't stop until November 4. Please John take it on the road. Don't stop.
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Wishing Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:32pm |
re: #246 jaunte
Sarah Palin has principles. It may not seem as important to Obamites as having a head overcrammed with factoids, but it makes a critical difference to those of us out here in the country that have been watching Biden and the other circusmembers for years.
I have agreed with just about every one of your posts tonight...including this!
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AmericanMe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:41pm |
re: #31 mama winger
can we run a poll on how fast the Cubs are going to flush themselves down the toilet bowl of history again?
gah
this can't be happening
Oh but it is. Sorry Mama Winger, my Dodgers will close it out here on Saturday night. Who'd a thunk it?
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rawmuse Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:44pm |
Is Ohio really the frikkin' wasteland that Biden described? I have not been there in years. Any Ohio Lizards care to chime in?
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Eric Cartman's Conscience Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:44pm |
Not as high as others on Palin tonight. She had an opportunity to take some heads regarding the Wall Street Mess and simply repeated McCain's corruption mantra. Why not quip at Barack's benefiting from them? A brief, throw-away line? Biden would have been forced to spend his entire answer defending or refuting that statement.
Then, on Global Warming.
Not. Good.
No different than any moderate democrat.
The debate was a wash. Hell, even at Drudge the numbers are running 73% Palin / 23% Biden.
At Drudge! If the Drudge audience can't muster a 3/4th majority, how could the population at large?
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neocon hippie Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:53pm |
Naturally, most Mccain-Palin supporters are going to think she did better, while Obama supporters (I can't believe anyone's truly excited about Biden) will think Biden did better. The question is those elusive independent and/or undecided voters. I do think this is a good kick in the pants for the McCain campaign. Hopefully the whining throughout the blogosphere will a least take a break.
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mama winger Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:53pm |
re: #269 Dahveed
I did not watch a lick of the debate. I was too busy drinking and watching the Cubbies fail miserably. I really do not anticipate watching it. Was it a "hit it out of the ballpark win" or did she just solidify the base like she would have anyway?
She was GREAT.
Unlike our beloved Cubbies. gah
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:22:58pm |
re: #259 SpartanWoman
Biden' eye lift was a big error. He looks ghastly
Dr. Frankenstein takes care of those things for Biden.
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:01pm |
re: #269 Dahveed
I did not watch a lick of the debate. I was too busy drinking and watching the Cubbies fail miserably. I really do not anticipate watching it. Was it a "hit it out of the ballpark win" or did she just solidify the base like she would have anyway?
Biden had Steve Bartman do his debate prep
/nuff said
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:01pm |
re: #211 thriggle
I was frustrated that Biden seemed to get the last word on most topics, leaving his accusatory statements hanging un-rebutted.
And while the content of Biden's speech was all B.S., I have to admit, he sounded a bit more sure of himself than Governor Palin, who came across--at least initially--as somewhat nervous (although that may be attributable to her quick way of talking and her naturally high-pitched voice).
Palin arguably held her own, but it wasn't enough; I'm hoping McCain will cream Obama in the next two debates.
You and me agree exactly.
Obama's cards are all on the table now. All his angles of attack are revealed through the first debate, and this one. McSame, McBush, not really a maverick, we care so much about regular folks, and oh yes, we will tell any lie we need to in order to sound like Black JFK with a dash of Reagan...
McCain and his best people need to spend the weekend taking notes and coming up with the Mother of All Rhetorical Beatings for 0bie's next appearance.
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Drill_Thrawl Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:11pm |
re: #244 ggt
She told him "Good Job" or "You did Great." My husband caught it, I didn't. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was a telling moment.
The joys of a DVR. I rewound, cranked the volume and heard.
Last audible words from Gwen Ifill (spoken to Joe Biden)
“You did great! You and Obama are doing great!”
(repeated posted by me) Sorry, I'm a little annoyed.
- Drill
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OtisMyMan Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:12pm |
re: #237 doriangrey
I would be scared to death to look into those books. Because you just have to know they are the genuine for real, If I let you see it I will have to kill you deal.
I don't mind if you kill me as long as you eat me afterward. If it's one thing I can't stand it's a stinking trophy hunter!
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:17pm |
Another Biden lie posted at NRO.
Most ridiculous and downright strange was his contention that the Bush administration let Hezbollah into Lebanon, and then when “we threw them out” – whatever that means, he and Obama said NATO should go in but nobody took them up on it and now Hezbollah was all over Lebanon and that’s a problem. What?Well, Hezbollah’s been there since the early 1980’s of course, blossoming throughout the 1990’s to become now over a third of the population of Lebanon with 2 cabinet members, a host of parliamentarians, and schools, clinics, and basically an entirely separate governance infrastructure in all of southern Lebanon and elsewhere. I suppose the throwing out of Hezbollah was the dismal and failed Israeli campaign of 2006 which dislodged nothing? Or was it Israeli’s occupation of Southern Lebanon from 1982 – 1999? Don’t remember an Obama position on NATO replacing Israeli occupation then. As for NATO going in after the 2006 debacle, well, I’m the one who rounded up 8,000 French and Italians and a few thousand other Euros to go into Southern Lebanon along with an assortment of others in August 2006 and while working that issue for about 40 straight days I don’t remember a peep from Biden or Obama about NATO – which wouldn’t be budged despite our intense pressure in Mons. So, we went straight to Rome and Paris. Que sera, sera.
In any case, he was all bluff and bluster and too bad she didn’t have time during debate prep to get his very mixed record on foreign policy stuff, he’s as good as he is bad at foreign policy and that is just a comment on his mastery, not on his policy positions…which have been more bad than good.
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:20pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
First, Biden is so well-informed that he can be dead wrong on EVERY issue.
Second, Palin demonstrated tonight that she has a passable grasp of the issues, foreign and domestic -- and a far better grasp than Obama has.
Third, I admire Palin more than I do McCain, and she makes me prouder to be a Republican than he does.
I realize it's difficult for you to reconcile reality to your bubble world, but you may have the next four, eight, twelve or sixteen years to get the hang of it.
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jcw46 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:21pm |
re: #109 right Brain
I was suggesting all week that the Couric interviews was a set-up of the MSM by Palin, her own little Rope-a-Dope. I suspect within 48 hrs that will be a standard conclusion I so want to stake my claim first.
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Where/when did you suggest this?
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Desert Dog Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:25pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology,
PalinObama may have passed tonight, butshe is the most uninformedVPPresidential candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybeshe's a goodgovernor of AlaskaSenator from Illinois, but that's about it.I know that if
she wasn't propped up by the MSM everyonehereat the moonbat blog you usually post at would be rippingherhim a new asshole. You can beconservativelimp wristed liberal, loveMcCainObama, even vote for him... but claimingSarahObama makes you proud to be arepublicanleftwing dummiecrat is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
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laZardo Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:26pm |
re: #265 realwest
I'm surprised how easily the blame for the economic crisis can be shifted to Bush...
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Globular Cluster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:23:41pm |
In some sense I agree with the pundits that Biden did a technially better job from a strict debating standpoint. The only problem is that it is hard to know to what extent he was lying about all the "facts" that he brought up. I think he lied more than just these 14 instances cited, and Sarah called him on, saying that the pundits would fact check him.
On the other hand, Sarah I think connected well with "ordinary" Americans and to the extent that not losing is winning, Sarah won.
On the whole, however, I am extremely disappointed in the McCain campaign because they are not attacking. They are not demolishing the lies that the Obama campaign is spitting constantly, especially about the Fannie/Freddie fiasco, which is a Democrat problem.
There was so much more that Palin could have said to refute Biden and she didn't do it. The McCain campaign is clearly not listening to anyone on this blog or anywhere/anyone else. Hannity gave a great example on his radio show on how to respond to the Biden, had he been debating. Nobody listened.
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armytramp Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:02pm |
re: #238 SpartanWoman
Dowd just reeks with jealousy. I bet she's hot for Limbaugh
LOL! Too true.
I must say, the first dude is tasty.
But when it comes to tasty...holy moley, have you seen Senator Eric Cantor (Republican, VA)?
If I weren't already a registered Republican, I'd switch parties. My God, that man is gorgeous.
And I know it's shallow to have this conversation, but not nearly as shallow as Obama's speeches about "Change" that don't actually say jackshit.
And he's got a face like a horse.
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Unquiet Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:05pm |
Charles, I'm just a lurker, but I'm a longtime lurker, so while your at that simple switch over to a load balanced server could you just top off my beer? Since we are in the resources are free world... If you don't mind...
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:34pm |
That is gonna leave a lasting mark.
Vatican official attacks U.S. Democrats as “party of death”Burke, who was named prefect of the Vatican’s Supreme Court of the Apostolic Signature in June, told the Italian Catholic newspaper Avvenire that the U.S. Democratic Party risked “transforming itself definitively into a party of death for its decisions on bioethical issues.” He then attacked two of the party’s most high profile Catholics — vice presidential candidate Joe Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — for misrepresenting Church teaching on abortion.
He said Biden and Pelosi, “while presenting themselves as good Catholics, have presented Church doctrine on abortion in a false and tendentious way.”
- they lied.
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Gearhead Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:40pm |
re: #206 CommonCents
Did anyone catch what Gwen was saying to the candidates at the very end as they were all thanking each other? She had some words for Biden that were a little more than "thank you" but I was too busy doing my touchdown dance to catch it.
"Can you help me with a chapter in my book?"
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:45pm |
re: #284 Drill_Thrawl
The joys of a DVR. I rewound, cranked the volume and heard.
Last audible words from Gwen Ifill (spoken to Joe Biden)
“You did great! You and Obama are doing great!”
(repeated posted by me) Sorry, I'm a little annoyed.
- Drill
Send that tidbit to Rush or Hannity
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musicman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:49pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
You, my friend, are completely wrong! I was hoping McCain would pick her several months before he announced it. I kept saying that it would come down to picking who would be the best VP candidate.
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sagamoregal Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:55pm |
Anyone heard from columnist Kathleen Parker yet?
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flynmudd Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:24:59pm |
re: #152 PuritanicalRightWingNutjob
Did you see the same debate as the rest of us or did you see a different one?
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Cartman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:01pm |
re: #276 rawmuse
Is Ohio really the frikkin' wasteland that Biden described? I have not been there in years. Any Ohio Lizards care to chime in?
No, it's not. But it is about ready to overtake Chicago as the voter fraud capital of America.
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:06pm |
re: #269 Dahveed
I did not watch a lick of the debate. I was too busy drinking and watching the Cubbies fail miserably. I really do not anticipate watching it. Was it a "hit it out of the ballpark win" or did she just solidify the base like she would have anyway?
She started out "holding her own" Once she relaxed, she shined like a supernova. Joe Biden did well too, as far as reciting Democrat talking points and telling too many lies to refute can go. He looked professional and kept his assholeness in check. Palin connected with me, and I assume every other normal American, and made him look silly in the last half.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:11pm |
re: #237 doriangrey
I understand there are Pentagon and State Department Funds that are "off-the-books" for good reason. It's the continual siphon of fees and fines and other "official" income that freaks me out. the idea that the stock market could lose a trillion dollars a day in lost business (1/3 of the National budget) and most of us are gleefully unaffected --the enormity of the wealth of this country is scary in the opportunity for a tyrant.
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CommonCents Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:12pm |
Enough for dinner on the west coast and a late night snack on the east, the hockey mom opened up a FULL CAN OF WHOOP ASS.
Anyone see any fact checking on the Gen. McMullen's comments on counter-insurgency strategy in Afghanistan? Was Biden twisting words, making it up, or accurate?
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:27pm |
re: #149 Occasional Reader
AH, ONE MORE THING:
Something we need to keep pounding on, to hammer away at the "Joe Biden, foreign policy sooper-genius" meme:
So apparently, under the Bush Administration, "we and the French threw Hizballah out of Lebanon, but then let them back in, and wouldn't let NATO in".
What THE F**K was Biden talking about?! This alleged foreign policy guru is just making shit up. Incredible.
I do hope the conservative blogosphere and media keep that one alive. Biden told a massive whopper, or displayed astounding ignorance, or both.
Maybe FDR threw Hizballah out of Lebanon just prior to his 1929 televised fireside chat?
That one really got me. Total huge lie. It reminds me of the old folk song about the Darby ram:
Wasn't he a big one boys
Wasn't he a big one boys
Wasn't he a big one boys
Before they cut him down
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killerjoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:37pm |
I heard that awfuls' first ? to biden "whats your favorite color"
to Palin "explain bush's foreign policy"
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Rancher Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:56pm |
Biden came across as knowledgeable and statesmanlike. Sarah broke down and cried. She was a deer in the headlights while Biden calmingly laid down Obama's wonderful future of hope and change.
Alpha and Omega.
Ohm. Ohm. Ohm.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:57pm |
re: #283 rightside
SHOCKA!
Did they give you some good meds for your mouth?
750mg vicodins... waiting for them to kick in and they are lagging.... Had to quit taking them this morning so I could drive to the dentists office...
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spidly Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:25:57pm |
re: #109 right Brain
I was suggesting all week that the Couric interviews was a set-up of the MSM by Palin, her own little Rope-a-Dope. I suspect within 48 hrs that will be a standard conclusion I so want to stake my claim first.
Biden looked like he'd been tasered.
I thought that maybe but am not on record
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mama winger Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:26:09pm |
re: #296 Racer X
The Vatican has this one right.
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:26:26pm |
re: #241 Dar ul Harb
I think that was exactly what Giuliani was talking about when he called it one of the best debate performances he'd ever seen in his life.
I have to shake my head and ask how a Senator of such long experience could not be on the alert for such a basic debating tactic. I can easily see how she crushed her political opponents in Alaska: she's a fantastic student of human nature.
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:26:31pm |
re: #272 doriangrey
Cliffster plused needledick.......... hmmmmm Needledick has a friend?
Did I plus him? Let me fix that, I think that feature is in place now.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:26:40pm |
re: #279 mama winger
She was GREAT.
Unlike our beloved Cubbies. gah
I should let you know there were some Dodger fans here earlier all happy about that. I'm not really following this, but as a baseball fan, though less than I used to be, I know the history of the Cubs, and they need to win this year. They need to go all the way.
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Wishing Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:26:53pm |
re: #269 Dahveed
I did not watch a lick of the debate. I was too busy drinking and watching the Cubbies fail miserably. I really do not anticipate watching it. Was it a "hit it out of the ballpark win" or did she just solidify the base like she would have anyway?
Homer...Grand slam, for all intenets and purposes, bringin John home
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Joo-LiZ Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:10pm |
re: #305 CommonCents
Enough for dinner on the west coast and a late night snack on the east, the hockey mom opened up a FULL CAN OF WHOOP ASS.
Anyone see any fact checking on the Gen. McMullen's comments on counter-insurgency strategy in Afghanistan? Was Biden twisting words, making it up, or accurate?
It wasn't McMullen's comments Biden was referring to... it was McKiernen's (sp?)
That is going to be painted as a Palin-knows-nothing gaffe.
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Oldasdirt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:10pm |
re: #245 Pawn of the Oppressor
Should I tell you why I moved to Texas as soon as I was able? :)
Massachusetts is the only state that's posting a net loss of its (legal, registered U.S. citizen) population. There are many reasons. The prissy, un-self-conscious arrogance of the Northeastern Elitists is about #6 on my personal list. I got sick to death of it.
As I am from Texas, may i be the first to welcome you to our nice little state.
As you are not a liberal,I will just say,"Stay to the right" You will be fine.
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Ojoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:18pm |
re: #296 Racer X
The Vatican is exactly right.
And anyway the Democrats voted along party lines to block the 13th amendment outlawing slavery in, I think, 1865.
So you see they have a history.
Good night again.
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CommonCents Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:28pm |
re: #276 rawmuse
Is Ohio really the frikkin' wasteland that Biden described? I have not been there in years. Any Ohio Lizards care to chime in?
I've only been to Cincy a couple times in the last couple years. I'm in what used to be a wasteland but is now the sewer under the old underground city, Michigan. It can't be as bad as it is here where our Canadian Socialist Democrat Governor has destroyed the state.
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Dahveed Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:34pm |
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:44pm |
re: #278 neocon hippie
Naturally, most Mccain-Palin supporters are going to think she did better, while Obama supporters (I can't believe anyone's truly excited about Biden) will think Biden did better. The question is those elusive independent and/or undecided voters. I do think this is a good kick in the pants for the McCain campaign. Hopefully the whining throughout the blogosphere will a least take a break.
I think Palin came out better with independents because she was competent. She was everything the msm says she wasn't. She had a good grasp on the subjects and on foreign policy was just as good as Biden, and that was supposed to be her weak spot.
She came across as charming and just one of us. I think that will speak to a lot of people. She completely debunked the myth the msm has painted her as, and it's the msm who lost tonight.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:44pm |
re: #241 Dar ul Harb
My husband complained that she was saying "maverick" too much and sure he enough, right after that Biden broke and railed all the times McCain wasn't a "maverick". Sarah just smiled --she has set-him-up and he fell for it. I think it is going to be pretty difficult to refute the idea of McCain being a maverick in the public eye.
It showed that Biden is a Washington Politician as usual.
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abolitionist Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:44pm |
re: #178 ggt
... To buy alcohol in most states one has to have been born in 1987. ...
Darn, I was born too early. But why would I want buy alcohol in most states?
/rhetorical q; just being difficult
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:46pm |
re: #269 Dahveed
I did not watch a lick of the debate. I was too busy drinking and watching the Cubbies fail miserably. I really do not anticipate watching it. Was it a "hit it out of the ballpark win" or did she just solidify the base like she would have anyway?
KaPow! Strait to the moon Alice! Strait to the moon!
She did good.
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wright1 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:52pm |
Well, this night was long in waiting. I am tired and have to work early tomorrow.
All I have to say is that many doubted her, including myself, but she did not only a credible job, I think she won. Dems love the word "gravitas" - well tonight, Sarah Palin had gravitas. We live to fight another day!
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krycek Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:56pm |
She was awesome. Her closing statements were inspiring. I could see honesty and passion. I hope McCain doesn't blow it.
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:59pm |
Greta Van Sustren is interviewing one of the people that Sarah Palin defeated for Governor -- and he's at the Palin viewing party with her friends and family, gushing about how great a Governor she is and how great a VP she'll be.
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Shug Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:27:59pm |
re: #318 Wishing
Homer...Grand slam, for all intenets and purposes, bringin John home
She used a corked bat. She's juiced. She stole the signs
/msm
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:02pm |
re: #277 Eric Cartman's Conscience
Then, on Global Warming.
Not. Good.
No different than any moderate democrat.
It's a perfectly sensible answer. "We see the effects" - true, there is tundra melt up there. "Some of it may be man-made" - possibly true. "I'm not going to go in circles arguing causes" - good. "We need all-of-the-above energy reform" - also true.
The carbon caps thing, ehhhh, that sucked.
Unfortunately IMO Biden hit it out of the park with his very Republican answer, "Let's sell clean coal tech to China for a profit", dammit, has he been reading my mind? What an astoundingly free-market, sensible, rational idea. Everyone wins. Way too smart an idea to have come from a Democrat. He stole some thunder with that one.
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Mr. Sandman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:05pm |
The thing is the polls being discussed on the news are not "silly internet polls," but scientific ones based on as random of a sample as can be feasibly got. So polls like the CNN one showing Biden winning the debate 51% to 36% actually do have legitimacy in estimating the opinion makeup of the population of debate-watchers. Now, that they are showing a public perception that Biden solidly won surprises me; I was more pessimistic (optimistic from your point of view) and thought they would be more evenly split. Looks like this is even more bad news for Mccain.
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cliffster Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:11pm |
re: #272 doriangrey
Cliffster plused needledick.......... hmmmmm Needledick has a friend?
Fixed. Thanks for pointing out the food stuck in my teeth.
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:13pm |
re: #210 Slumbering Behemoth
My silly internet poll: By a show of hands, how many of you have NEVER been polled?
/wait for it....
Officially?
I was once, if you count Nielsen.
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Desert Dog Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:16pm |
Joe just resorted to plan B: If you cannot dazzle them with your wit and knowledge, baffle them with your bullshit.
He distorted, twisted and flat out lied over and over in that debate. My only concern is he will not be called on it.
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melinwy Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:29pm |
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OtisMyMan Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:30pm |
YO YO YO! Sarah wuz jus doin' her THUG THIZZLE,YO.
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killerjoe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:35pm |
re: #317 Archimedes
I think they need to put louie on 3rd base. Just let em sit there for a while.
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Mich-again Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:44pm |
I'm surprised Joe Biden didn't retell the lie that a drunk driver was responsible for the automobile accident that killed his first wife. Yeah, its a lie and all, but who cares? It plays well with the crowd when he tells that whopper.
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Intrepid Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:45pm |
I don't think the political points made by either Biden or Palin are as important as the confidence she exuded and the connection she made with ordinary Americans. She resonates with real people, Joe Biden tries to do so but he just comes off as condescending and fake.
Heck, even the former Gov of Alaska is on Fox now (he's at the debate party at Sarah's friend's home) and he's singing her praises! She beat this man in an election, and he's still FOR HER!
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gunther5612 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:46pm |
re: #276 rawmuse
Is Ohio really the frikkin' wasteland that Biden described? I have not been there in years. Any Ohio Lizards care to chime in?
Only in the areas controlled by Democrats.
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neocon hippie Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:28:56pm |
re: #292 Globular Cluster
I also think McCain and Palin need to go right for the straight talk about the mortgage meltdown: the CRA, the Dem connection incl Obama to Fannie-Freddie, Obama's connection to Frank Raines and Jim Johnson, call out Dodd and Frank, point out that McCain (mention the Bush administration only in response to the Dems blaming it) spoke up about what was going on.
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:29:00pm |
re: #272 doriangrey
Cliffster plused needledick.......... hmmmmm Needledick has a friend?
You mean needledick the bugfucker?
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:29:08pm |
re: #112 Typicalwhitey
Did you know that the RNC raised 66 Million in September?
Their BIGGEST fundraising month EVER
So how come McCain today gave up on Michigan?
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JacksonTn Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:29:31pm |
Was Biden about to cry when he was talking about taking care of his sons? I feel for him but if it had been Sarah geez........ we would never have heard the end of it .......... a woman tearing up ....... oh she's not ready for the job. I may be wrong but I thought I saw him tearing up.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:29:32pm |
re: #227 maddogg
Anybody with a nic of PuritanicalRightWingNutjob has GOT to be a moby.
And what I call a time bomb moby. Hang around awhile, visit rarely if at all, and then send that dagger forth at just the right moment.
We are so beyond that.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:29:45pm |
re: #304 ggt
I understand there are Pentagon and State Department Funds that are "off-the-books" for good reason. It's the continual siphon of fees and fines and other "official" income that freaks me out. the idea that the stock market could lose a trillion dollars a day in lost business (1/3 of the National budget) and most of us are gleefully unaffected --the enormity of the wealth of this country is scary in the opportunity for a tyrant.
Oh I was referring to the slush that our elected officials are without a doubt stealing. Probably makes the trillion dollars lost in business chump change by comparison. Seeing those figures and to whom they went and when is what would undoubtedly get you killed.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:29:55pm |
re: #325 ggt
My husband complained that she was saying "maverick" too much and sure he enough, right after that Biden broke and railed all the times McCain wasn't a "maverick". Sarah just smiled --she has set-him-up and he fell for it. I think it is going to be pretty difficult to refute the idea of McCain being a maverick in the public eye.
It showed that Biden is a Washington Politician as usual.
Was that before or after she said she "didn't understand Washington"?
If I remember correctly, it was after.
OODA. Palin understands.
AND ROCKS!
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pablito Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:29:59pm |
I thought Biden won the debate, but I voted for Palin coz I want her to win in November.
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Typicalwhitey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:30:19pm |
I am going to see what the koskidsnutjobs are saying.
If I am not back in five minutes......REALWEST! come and GET ME!
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beholden Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:30:24pm |
Only 156 "kool-aid drinkers" as of right now. They must be off sulking.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:30:37pm |
re: #308 Shug
Stand up Gwen, let em see ya
Sarah have said to O'Biden "Aren't you going to ask Gwen to stand up?"
It would have been great!
hmmm, does Sarah listen to Rush?
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hazzyday Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:30:44pm |
Wide viewership of this debate. I watch a dem forum online and they now realize that Sarah Palin is smart. They still don't understand that they are being lied to by Obama and Biden. On the local TV channel review. Estatic Republican whoops and grudgingly ok's from some Democrats. The MSM created veil of secrecy has been removed somewhat. Regular people are re thinking. Independents should move some out of the Obama camp.
And I pronounce nuclear like her and Bush. Probably no changing me. I just grew up that way.
Now Obama has to be moved far left in the voters minds.
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:30:49pm |
re: #272 doriangrey
Cliffster plused needledick.......... hmmmmm Needledick has a friend?
I think he must of hit the wrong button, he did a Mandy comment .......see his comment #131.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:31:11pm |
re: #335 cliffster
Fixed. Thanks for pointing out the food stuck in my teeth.
I hoped it was an error....Glad to see that it was..... ;)
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:31:22pm |
re: #268 Drill_Thrawl
Yep
Last audible words from Gwen Ifill (spoken to Joe Biden)“You did great! You and Obama are doing great!”
I heard the same thing. And I'm too pissed off about Ifill's failure to disclose her conflict of interest to the Commission to say any more.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:31:27pm |
re: #352 pablito
I thought Biden won the debate, but I voted for Palin coz I want her to win in November.
He didn't win. Not on substance, nor on style.
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beholden Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:31:33pm |
re: #353 Typicalwhitey
I am going to see what the koskidsnutjobs are saying.
If I am not back in five minutes......REALWEST! come and GET ME!
Don't do it, mate. You might either catch something, or get a contact high.
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CommonCents Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:31:59pm |
re: #347 realwest
So how come McCain today gave up on Michigan?
Perhaps the McCain campaign has pulled resources and left it to the RNC to fund ads. Those are 2 separate pools of cash.
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Mich-again Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:00pm |
re: #322 CommonCents
It can't be as bad as it is here where our Canadian Socialist Democrat Governor has destroyed the state.
Well into her 2nd and last term, Jenny Granmole and all her supporters are convinced that its all still John Engler's fault.
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:13pm |
re: #348 JacksonTn
Was Biden about to cry when he was talking about taking care of his sons? I feel for him but if it had been Sarah geez........ we would never have heard the end of it .......... a woman tearing up ....... oh she's not ready for the job. I may be wrong but I thought I saw him tearing up.
Yep and it must still be hard to think about, but I wish he'd drop the drunk driver shit and stop lying about the poor truck driver
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krycek Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:14pm |
Give us more straight talk! Give us more Palin speaking honestly to Americans!
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:19pm |
re: #358 Right Brain
Pajamasmedia is offline, whats up?
There server probably couldn't handle the load....
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Typicalwhitey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:21pm |
They have two recommended diaries on INTERNET polls to "freep".
OMG are they that frikkin lame>yes
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armytramp Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:36pm |
re: #261 wright1
We hope there are more of you - it is ok, you can say she is cute (sort of like how Joe Paschi said to Fred Gwynne in "My cousin Vinny" - "and, she 's kinda cute..."
Real women like other women. They can admit when other women are beautiful and accomplished without being jealous.
I am surprised how many women who claim they are feminsits can't do this simple thing. Can't be happy for other women's gifts. The only women they support are the ones who can't support themselves. It makes them feel powerful to show other women they can be generous. They get to be all sisterly.
But the minute another woman pulls out front, shows some moxie, becomes accomplished, is beautiful?
Tear her down!
Only a few chosen women, those who follow the rules, play the politically correct game will be endorsed by this crowd. And those women are often not the most accomplished, not the most successful, not the most gifted. Because being gifted is so unfair, and that's not in the feminist/socialist playbook.
I believe I learned the phrase "Women's Status Cannibalism" from a post here at LGF and I have never forgotten it.
I like the old definition of feminism: "The radical notion that women are people."
Many feminists forgot that.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:36pm |
re: #353 Typicalwhitey
I am going to see what the koskidsnutjobs are saying.
If I am not back in five minutes......REALWEST! come and GET ME!
For the love of Pete, don't do it!
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:32:59pm |
re: #152 PuritanicalRightWingNutjob
First post on LGF, but alas, as Devil's Advocate:
Biden spoke better than Palin. Not to say he didn't go off topic less than she did, but he disguised it better. Palin got caught having to agree with Biden every other minute. Didn't challenge his assertions, didn't call him on making up numbers out of thin air. Almost called him on threatening to prosecute former Bush administration officials, but didn't quite make it. I pray she's not as McCainified as she appeared.
Palin agreed with Biden about the things Biden disagreed with Obama on. Like when he criticized Obama for voting to defund the troops.
Palin slammed Biden and Obama for being big government tax-and-spend job killers.
As for calling Biden out on his misstatements, no need. The highlight reel is already in production and the debunking will be much more detailed and thorough than Palin could have managed.
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looking closely Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:33:02pm |
I turned off the debate about halfway through, literally in disgust, but I'm afraid that Biden's lies beat Palins truths.
Still voted for Palin above, though.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:33:10pm |
re: #265 realwest
Perhaps, I still think the public will have to be prepped for the whole CRA debacle --which will of course give Obambi time to make a suitable sounding lie. I think that if McCain can get Obambi to admit that many of the banks were pressured into giving loans to those that didn't qualify because of fears of discrimination lawsuits --that would be a big, big score for the truth.
Yes, many corporations were greedy and being hounded by their stockholders, but while they stockholders were at the front door, the activist lawyers were at the back.
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hazzyday Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:33:11pm |
re: #292 Globular Cluster
Sen. Biden gets good debating points from people because he is a BSing lawyer. Eventually Gov. Palin is going to run him into the ground. BS is BS.
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:33:21pm |
re: #337 Desert Dog
Joe just resorted to plan B: If you cannot dazzle them with your wit and knowledge, baffle them with your bullshit.
He distorted, twisted and flat out lied over and over in that debate. My only concern is he will not be called on it.
Bingo!
The left - that includes the MSM - will ignore it and explain to us what he really meant to say. And most Americans will nod their heads approvingly and say "Oh-bam-ah!"
Sheep.
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CommonCents Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:33:43pm |
re: #364 Mich-again
Well into her 2nd and last term, Jenny Granmole and all her supporters are convinced that its all still John Engler's fault.
If not Engler, it's Bush's fault.
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pablito Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:33:55pm |
re: #361 Archimedes
I hope you're right.
I just cringed every time she said "nukeular" and every time she let Biden spew his ridiculous lies without calling him on it.
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John N. Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:34:28pm |
Re: 94
A jibe being a nettlesome comment (a poke if you will)..
In a debate setting I think " I like the cut of her jibe" works quite well.
You gotta love word play wherever you find it.
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hazzyday Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:34:29pm |
re: #369 armytramp
Maureen Dowd might be able to get a date if she votes Palin.
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:34:32pm |
I was at a bar in downtown Minneapolis tonight, featuring the debate on live tv. I was intrigued that such a thing would even occur, really. Live political debate as the entertainment? Are you serous?
I wanted to encourage such a thing, so I jumped in. Thank you AM1280 - The Patriot. Thank you, Ed Morrissey, Chad The Elder, Michael Brodkorb, and you other cats whose name does not come to me - mostly because the Stoli martinis at Trocodero's are freakin' awesome.
Not many honeys in the group tonight, but an enthusiastic, and well-informed crowd. Whoulda thunk this kind of thing would work in a bar?
Highlight of the night? I noticed a biker dude with a Patriot Guard patch on his leather vest. I pulled him aside and told him how much their efforts are appreciated across the blogosphere. He reminded me who the heroes are, which I acknowledged, but also reminded him, as we all can appreciate, that he was the hero for those heroes, and thanked him on your behalf. He was a great and humble guy.
And, DAMN! Did Sarah EVER kick Joe Biden's ass all over that stage tonight? She had his ass on the ropes from the opening bell.
I also discovered something, as did Slow Joe - when Sarah pauses a bit; offers up that toothy smilel shakes that 'sexy librarian tress' out of her eye and gives a wink...
Your ass is in for it.
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spynverzyon Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:34:33pm |
re: #109 right Brain
Biden looked like he'd been tasered.
"Whoa! Don't tase me, sistah!"
- J. B., 10/2/08
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:34:42pm |
re: #353 Typicalwhitey
I am going to see what the koskidsnutjobs are saying.
If I am not back in five minutes......REALWEST! come and GET ME!
Don't do it!
It is unclean there!
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Cartman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:35:19pm |
re: #334 Mr. Sandman
There is NO internet poll that is scientific. None. Nada. Zip.
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spirochete Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:35:20pm |
re: #348 JacksonTn
Was Biden about to cry when he was talking about taking care of his sons? I feel for him but if it had been Sarah geez........ we would never have heard the end of it .......... a woman tearing up ....... oh she's not ready for the job. I may be wrong but I thought I saw him tearing up.
Yes, he teared up. He deserves that, I think, but someone else mentioned his Clintonian wiping away of a tear. Sarah handled it very well by not even acknowledging it. She continued to swing and kick. Great way to handle it. Shortly thereafter he was bloviating again as if nothing had ever happened.
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IslandLibertarian Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:36:00pm |
re: #376 Racer X
And most Americans will nod their heads approvingly and say "Oh-bam-ah!"
Sheep.
"Four legs good, two legs O-baaaaaaaaaaaa-ma!"
NObama!
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jaunte Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:36:14pm |
Maybe we can set up a deal. Sarah stops saying nucular, if Barack stops saying Pockistan.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:36:39pm |
Full disclosure- I didn't even catch the debate tonight and I voted for Palin. I had the Dodgers/Cubs (gotta love Vin Scully- the flagship station doesn't come in too well, but an affiliate in Bakersfield carries pretty good @ night) game on my regular antannae, Oregon State Vs Utah on my XM radio, Memphis vs UAB online and Pitt vs USF on TV (on mute). I've also been drinking- alot.
However, I still consider myself just as well informed (if not moreso) as the typical 0bama supporter.
/How is the MSM DinoMedia spinning this one?
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:36:42pm |
re: #334 Mr. Sandman
The thing is the polls being discussed on the news are not "silly internet polls," but scientific ones based on as random of a sample as can be feasibly got. So polls like the CNN one showing Biden winning the debate 51% to 36% actually do have legitimacy in estimating the opinion makeup of the population of debate-watchers. Now, that they are showing a public perception that Biden solidly won surprises me; I was more pessimistic (optimistic from your point of view) and thought they would be more evenly split. Looks like this is even more bad news for Mccain.
Umm... where does it say the sample size and sampling methodology?
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:37:22pm |
re: #389 jaunte
Maybe we can set up a deal. Sarah stops saying nucular, if Barack stops saying Pockistan.
I like nucular. From Sarah. Doncha know? Doggone it.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:37:40pm |
re: #360 realwest
Yep
I heard the same thing. And I'm too pissed off about Ifill's failure to disclose her conflict of interest to the Commission to say any more.
I think she did a pretty good job, considering, though. No hateful looks to Palin. Congenial tone. One sharp cutoff of Palin's answer while she was trying to call BS, and a bit of fawn in her manner to Biden. But other than that, surprisingly un-obvious.
I would like a lip-reader to tell us what Biden & Palin were saying to one another after it was over. She looked like she wanted to pick a fight with him, and his manner was a little bit condescending.
I'm curious also about what Palin & Biden's Hot Daughter were talking about. They looked to be joking around a little bit.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:38:09pm |
re: #391 Fenway_Nation
Full disclosure- I didn't even catch the debate tonight and I voted for Palin. I had the Dodgers/Cubs (gotta love Vin Scully- the flagship station doesn't come in too well, but an affiliate in Bakersfield carries pretty good @ night) game on my regular antannae, Oregon State Vs Utah on my XM radio, Memphis vs UAB online and Pitt vs USF on TV (on mute). I've also been drinking- alot.
However, I still consider myself just as well informed (if not moreso) as the typical 0bama supporter.
/How is the
MSMDinoMedia spinning this one?
They are doing a copycat of Joe Biden.... In other words... lying their fat socialist/communists/liberal asses off...
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free Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:38:17pm |
i wanted to vote for ron paul but he wasn't in the poll. ;)
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Rancher Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:38:22pm |
re: #328 Syrah
she just solidify the base like she would have anyway
You define the parameters. She sure solidified me, but she has from the beginning. I can't see her without getting solidified. She was spouting McCain's talking points but the Sarah factor still shone through,.
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:38:50pm |
re: #373 looking closely
I turned off the debate about halfway through, literally in disgust, but I'm afraid that Biden's lies beat Palins truths.
Still voted for Palin above, though.
You missed the best parts. Sarah Palin made a far better connection with the audience. Biden looked progressively older and weaker.
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Eric Cartman's Conscience Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:38:59pm |
McCain and Palin Blew It
How many missed opportunities to lay blame where it belongs!? Palin did it again tonight talking about "wall street".
All we needed was ONE! Just ONE republican official to simply say "we want to work hard to fix this current crisis. But we can't in good faith go forward with our business until Barney Frank and Chris Dodd recuse themselves from all meetings". The resultant shit storm would have forced the public to actually ask what did they do. Instead, our officials implicitly accept the blame by their unwillingness to fight. Tonight, Palin wasn't Palin, but was McCain's VP choice. That's no longer good enough.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:39:12pm |
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Mr. Sandman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:39:29pm |
re: #385 Cartman
The point is the poll I cited showing a Biden win was not an internet poll, in the sense of self-selected responders to poll questions on websites, but a legitimate scientific poll.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:40:04pm |
re: #334 Mr. Sandman
The thing is the polls being discussed on the news are not "silly internet polls," but scientific ones based on as random of a sample as can be feasibly got. So polls like the CNN one showing Biden winning the debate 51% to 36% actually do have legitimacy in estimating the opinion makeup of the population of debate-watchers. Now, that they are showing a public perception that Biden solidly won surprises me; I was more pessimistic (optimistic from your point of view) and thought they would be more evenly split. Looks like this is even more bad news for Mccain.
Mr. Sandman
Registered since: Jul 8, 2007 at 6:38 pm
No. of comments posted: 16
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ROTFLMAO.......................Moby alert...............................
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:40:10pm |
re: #394 Pawn of the Oppressor
I think she did a pretty good job, considering, though. No hateful looks to Palin. Congenial tone. One sharp cutoff of Palin's answer while she was trying to call BS, and a bit of fawn in her manner to Biden. But other than that, surprisingly un-obvious.
I would like a lip-reader to tell us what Biden & Palin were saying to one another after it was over. She looked like she wanted to pick a fight with him, and his manner was a little bit condescending.
I'm curious also about what Palin & Biden's Hot Daughter were talking about. They looked to be joking around a little bit.
Her mike was partially on when she crossed the stage to shake hands after the debate -- she thanked him.
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Florida Lady Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:40:23pm |
re: #103 needlestack
Good lord. I don't care what your political ideology, Palin may have passed tonight, but she is the most uninformed VP candidate we've ever had on national and international issues in my entire life. Maybe she's a good governor of Alaska, but that's about it.
I know that if she wasn't McCain's VP everyone here would be ripping her a new asshole. You can be conservative, love McCain, even vote for him... but claiming Sarah makes you proud to be a republican is simply dishonest. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
More brilliance from the Obamatrons.
Now go back to mommy's basement with your Cheetos & Coke.
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Catttt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:40:29pm |
This liberal blogger predicted Palin would win.
This part cracks me up:
Hopefully, Joe Biden will be boringly dull. That's what he needs to be. If he errs and reverts to type, he will be long-winded, patronising and boring while spraying around gaffes like confetti.
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:40:40pm |
re: #385 Cartman
There is NO internet poll that is scientific. None. Nada. Zip.
Actually, there is, but they are difficult and very expensive, and I am way too drunk to explain.
Most everything that you see as a "internet poll" is crap. You can't polish a turd and hope to pick it up by a clean end, but you can restrict your sample. Even that is not fool proof.
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Wishing Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:40:54pm |
re: #348 JacksonTn
Was Biden about to cry when he was talking about taking care of his sons? I feel for him but if it had been Sarah geez........ we would never have heard the end of it .......... a woman tearing up ....... oh she's not ready for the job. I may be wrong but I thought I saw him tearing up.
Yes he did tear up, but was when talking about losing his wife and kids in car wreck. I am sorry he lost his family, no one can know that pain unless you have been through it.
Nonetheless, It was a Hilary moment, and kiss of death for the Zero, Biden, and all of em. IMO, they lost it right there.
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Racer X Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:40:56pm |
re: #393 jwb7605
I like nucular. From Sarah. Doncha know? Doggone it.
I'm hoping she starts pronouncing it "Warshington" too.
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Typicalwhitey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:41:03pm |
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:41:44pm |
re: #396 free
i wanted to vote for ron paul but he wasn't in the poll. ;)
You can vote for Ron Paul @ comment #1. ;p
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joncelli Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:41:55pm |
re: #295 Unquiet
Hey! Minions top off the lizard master's beer, not vice versa!
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:02pm |
Sarah entered the room, and locked the door behind her.
Joe gulped, and muttered, "Oh, shit."
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jcw46 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:09pm |
RE:Mentions made above referring to making donations to Charles vis a vis LGF.
Where/what would one do to make said donation?
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:13pm |
re: #373 looking closely
I turned off the debate about halfway through, literally in disgust, but I'm afraid that Biden's lies beat Palins truths.
Still voted for Palin above, though.
And to that, I say horseshit. Why don't you just admit who you are?
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:13pm |
re: #404 stuiec
Her mike was partially on when she crossed the stage to shake hands after the debate -- she thanked him.
No, later they were talking for a good thirty seconds or so and he was leaning in a bit trying to look parental. She looked like she wanted to say something rough, but couldn't.
"You did real good for a small town girl. I dated a girl with legs like yours once."
"The last guy who talked to me like that ended up jobless. You're lucky there's only one debate, bub."
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:19pm |
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:22pm |
Greta is going to show the o'reilly slap down of barney frank. He actually calls frank a coward.
Gotta watch that.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:33pm |
re: #409 Racer X
I'm hoping she starts pronouncing it "Warshington" too.
fer shure! (I'm originally from the part of the country where we warsh our clothes)
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:34pm |
re: #402 Mr. Sandman
The point is the poll I cited showing a Biden win was not an internet poll, in the sense of self-selected responders to poll questions on websites, but a legitimate scientific poll.
You know they've had poll numbers for who won the debate since before the debate started tonight?
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spynverzyon Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:42pm |
re: #353 Typicalwhitey
Time to send the rescue squad after TW...
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:42:50pm |
re: #410 Typicalwhitey
I am back and deloused LOL
Hmmmm, better delouse you again.... that is one seriously vermin infested gutter you were just crawling around in....
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:43:11pm |
re: #414 jcw46
RE:Mentions made above referring to making donations to Charles vis a vis LGF.
Where/what would one do to make said donation?
Left sidebar, under "tools" you'll find a link.
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:43:22pm |
re: #304 ggt
I understand there are Pentagon and State Department Funds that are "off-the-books" for good reason. It's the continual siphon of fees and fines and other "official" income that freaks me out. the idea that the stock market could lose a trillion dollars a day in lost business (1/3 of the National budget) and most of us are gleefully unaffected --the enormity of the wealth of this country is scary in the opportunity for a tyrant.
(emphasis mine)
A coupla threads back, someone was chastised for using the word "looser" when they really meant "loser." ("Looser" = one who unleashes something or one who loosens something, and it rhymes with gooser or with juicer. "Loser" = one who didn't win, and it rhymes with boozer and with user.)
Well, "enormity" is another one of those words that gets used wrongly. Too often, it is mistakenly used to mean "giganticness" when what it really means is something which is enormously, wickedly wrong. In a situation of, say, a person who inadvertently (or even knowingly) commits treason, gets a bunch of people killed, and ruins his career in the the process... one could refer to "the enormity of the situation" that he is now in. "Enormity" is only correctly used in situations of ultimate awfulness, of someone having gotten themselves into a really, really ugly position in life. Yet, people ignorantly keep using it merely as a fancy word got ginormousness.
It makes me cringe when I see it used like that.
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Cartman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:43:37pm |
re: #402 Mr. Sandman
The point is the poll I cited showing a Biden win was not an internet poll, in the sense of self-selected responders to poll questions on websites, but a legitimate scientific poll.
Ok, then as someone asked of you previously, what was the sampling criteria and methodology? Can you tell us? Do you accept it was "scientific" because they told you so? Gimme a break.
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Drill_Thrawl Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:43:42pm |
re: #311 doriangrey
750mg vicodins... waiting for them to kick in and they are lagging.... Had to quit taking them this morning so I could drive to the dentists office...
I doubt that. You'd be dead. Maybe you mean 7.5 mg.
I have thrown my back out enough to be very familiar with vicodin, percocet, valium, and flexerill. Becareful, It can get addicting VERY quickly.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:43:47pm |
re: #389 jaunte
Maybe we can set up a deal. Sarah stops saying nucular, if Barack stops saying Pockistan.
Or better yet, if he stops saying "Umm ummm ummm"
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:43:48pm |
re: #365 SpartanWoman
Well
Yep and it must still be hard to think about, but I wish he'd drop the drunk driver shit and stop lying about the poor truck driver
it didn't keep Biden from going back to the Senate leaving his remaining kids at home, either.
Still and all I'd give him ok for tearing up about it.
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Archimedes Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:44:35pm |
re: #426 Drill_Thrawl
I doubt that. You'd be dead. Maybe you mean 7.5 mg.
I have thrown my back out enough to be very familiar with vicodin, percocet, valium, and flexerill. Becareful, It can get addicting VERY quickly.
Or maybe micrograms = mcg?
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gman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:44:44pm |
re: #334 Mr. Sandman
The thing is the polls being discussed on the news are not "silly internet polls," but scientific ones based on as random of a sample as can be feasibly got. So polls like the CNN one showing Biden winning the debate 51% to 36% actually do have legitimacy in estimating the opinion makeup of the population of debate-watchers. Now, that they are showing a public perception that Biden solidly won surprises me; I was more pessimistic (optimistic from your point of view) and thought they would be more evenly split. Looks like this is even more bad news for Mccain.
Almost all of the polls said Gore would win 8 years ago and Kerry 4 years ago. Those polls were also "supposedly" based on scientific methodology.
You always have to factor in the "liberal" sprinkling of magic pixie dust by the MSM.
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maddogg Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:44:57pm |
re: #418 newsjunkie_ky
Greta is going to show the o'reilly slap down of barney frank. He actually calls frank a coward.
Gotta watch that.
You won't regret it. O'Reilly really mopped the floor with Barney. Called him a coward and the architect of the financial crisis.
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thriggle Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:45:01pm |
re: #292 Globular Cluster
On the whole, however, I am extremely disappointed in the McCain campaign because they are not attacking. They are not demolishing the lies that the Obama campaign is spitting constantly, especially about the Fannie/Freddie fiasco, which is a Democrat problem.
There was so much more that Palin could have said to refute Biden and she didn't do it. The McCain campaign is clearly not listening to anyone on this blog or anywhere/anyone else. Hannity gave a great example on his radio show on how to respond to the Biden, had he been debating. Nobody listened.
Don't worry; the first debate between Obama and McCain was supposedly about foreign policy (though they did spend some revealing minutes discussing the financial crisis), and this debate simply didn't have the scope to address the depth and breadth of the issue. When the economy debate actually rolls around, I think McCain will send the regressionist, socialist, mercantilist crowd packing.
But I'm not surprised that the media is interpreting this debate as a win for Biden. The laughably incorrect content of his speech aside, he seemed confident (if ghoulish), and comfortable, and he seemed to get the last word in on most topics, where Palin seemed nervous (due in part to her quick way of talking and high-pitched voice), and failed to rebut a number of Biden's outrageous statements and attacks (although this may have been Ifill's fault for choosing to end topic discussions just after Biden threw out wild punches that begged rebuttal).
And while I love Palin and enjoyed her folksy "Say it ain't so, Joe!" digs, I cringed whenever she said "nuk-yular" (although I do otherwise like her accent; not too different from my own, coming from Wisconsin).
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Jack_Ryan Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:45:07pm |
There was one quote from Biden that stuck out in my mind. "I've been in the Senate for 35 years, and in all that time I haven't changed .... Barack and I are going to bring change ..."
I thought that this was one heck of a good debate. Sarah definitely shined!
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:45:21pm |
re: #426 Drill_Thrawl
I doubt that. You'd be dead. Maybe you mean 7.5 mg.
I have thrown my back out enough to be very familiar with vicodin, percocet, valium, and flexerill. Becareful, It can get addicting VERY quickly.
You forgot hydrocodone. I had to tell a doctor to make damn sure I needed the stuff, because I was beginning to like it too much.
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krycek Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:45:29pm |
"Maverick McCain" - snore
"Greed on Wall Street" - sounds like Dem. talking points
"Reaching across the aisle" - part of the problem not part of the solution
"Negotiating without preconditions" - my eyes glaze over
"Global warming" - a sham
Tell us more about keeping taxes low and making this a country where business can thrive and people can continue to go to work. Tell us that you will give us more American energy.
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looking closely Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:45:38pm |
re: #334 Mr. Sandman
The thing is the polls being discussed on the news are not "silly internet polls," but scientific ones based on as random of a sample as can be feasibly got.
Baloney.
Forget internet polls, where ballot stuffing is common, and the polls themselves are highly self-selected (eg like the LGF poll above).
Even telephone poll response is still self-selected.
Last time I was called by a pollster, I "politely" hung up on them.
The persons who have 15 minutes to spare answering tedious questions on the phone aren't necessarily representative of the likely voting population.
So polls like the CNN one showing Biden winning the debate 51% to 36% actually do have legitimacy in estimating the opinion makeup of the population of debate-watchers.
Not if they are internet polls, they don't.
At *best* they are a measure of the ones directed to participate in THAT particular poll. EG: Whose poll do you think the CNN audience is going to participate in? How about the FOX audience?
Now, that they are showing a public perception that Biden solidly won surprises me; I was more pessimistic (optimistic from your point of view) and thought they would be more evenly split. Looks like this is even more bad news for Mccain.
Even stipulating that the public at large thinks Biden won (which is suspect), that still doesn't ipso facto make this bad news for McCain.
The only thing that matters here is how many likely voters in swing states, were persuaded to vote for one candidate or another based on this debate.
That number may be entirely different than the "popular view" of this debate, and I would strongly argue to you that at this point, there cannot be reliable data that enumerate it.
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Mich-again Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:45:40pm |
Biden looked like a male version of Joan Rivers. Yech.
Sorry to anyone who this might offend, but I think it is vain and shallow for bald ugly men to get hair plugs and cake on the makeup. Its like saying, G_d, you F*ed up when you made me look like this. I don't get it.
How can anyone exude confidence and self esteem when they do stupid shit like that.
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neocon hippie Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:45:55pm |
These elitist libs who would look down on Bush or Palin for saying "nucular"
are the same kind of bozos who support "Ebonics" as some kind of authentic black language. Friggin' hypocrites.
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spirochete Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:46:13pm |
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:46:23pm |
re: #426 Drill_Thrawl
I doubt that. You'd be dead. Maybe you mean 7.5 mg.
I have thrown my back out enough to be very familiar with vicodin, percocet, valium, and flexerill. Becareful, It can get addicting VERY quickly.
Hmmm, Bottle says.... 7.5-750? Cant honestly say I know what it means... Thought it meant 750mg...
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Syrah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:46:52pm |
re: #430 gman
Almost all of the polls said Gore would win 8 years ago and Kerry 4 years ago. Those polls were also "supposedly" based on scientific methodology.
You always have to factor in the "liberal" sprinkling of magic pixie dust by the MSM.
Not to mention factoring in the responses of people who lie to pollsters because they want to skew the numbers. This is an important detail that many in the polling industry are having difficulty dealing with.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:47:05pm |
re: #440 doriangrey
Hmmm, Bottle says.... 7.5-750? Cant honestly say I know what it means... Thought it meant 750mg...
That tablet would be about the size of a golf ball.
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jcw46 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:47:25pm |
re: #378 pablito
I hope you're right.
I just cringed every time she said "nukeular" and every time she let Biden spew his ridiculous lies without calling him on it.
Please keep in mind; an accent, especially one stereotyped by the Media for years as being used by the mentally deficient, does not mean someone is stupid. People born in certain areas of this country learned their english as spoken and it is difficult to eliminate in later life.
(I've got a bad habit of saying "warsh" instead of wash as that's how I learned to say it from listening to others.)
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Opilio Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:48:16pm |
re: #402 Mr. Sandman
The point is the poll I cited showing a Biden win was not an internet poll, in the sense of self-selected responders to poll questions on websites, but a legitimate scientific poll.
Commissioned by CNN, or some other wing of the MSM? Legitimate?
HA!
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:48:21pm |
re: #406 Catttt
This liberal blogger predicted Palin would win.
This part cracks me up:
Describes Biden perfectly
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AmericanMe Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:48:38pm |
Sarah wins easily
Dodgers win handily
It was a good night!
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:49:15pm |
re: #442 jwb7605
That tablet would be about the size of a golf ball.
Vicodin 7.5/750 750 is the tylenol part
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Aussie Infidel Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:49:17pm |
re: #296 Racer X
That is gonna leave a lasting mark.
- they lied.
BUT there will be in excommunication even considered. It'll only take one high level action and the rest of the 'helicopter' catholics
Don't talk about separation of church and state. The politicians make value judgments. If they have a moral problem then they are compelled to withdraw from the debate. If not then they wear the censure of their church until they buck up their moral position.
Simple really!
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Eric Cartman's Conscience Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:49:40pm |
McCain already has an ad up at CNN quoting Peggy Noonan just hours ago saying Palin "killed". As in, she won.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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looking closely Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:49:59pm |
re: #415 really grumpy big dog Johnson
And to that, I say horseshit. Why don't you just admit who you are?
You got me on this one. . .Who do you think I am?
Seriously, I *did* vote for Palin in the poll, I *did* turn of the debate halfway in (because Biden's lies and Palins muddled responses to them were making me angry), and I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
One other poster suggested the second half of the debate went better for Palin. . .I'll check it out.
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spynverzyon Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:50:05pm |
re: #410 Typicalwhitey
I am back and deloused LOL
But that I am forbid
To tell the secrets of my prison-house,
I could a tale unfold whose lightest word
Would harrow up thy soul; freeze thy young blood;
Make thy two eyes, like stars, start from their spheres;
Thy knotted and combined locks to part,
And each particular hair to stand on end
Like quills upon the fretful porcupine:
But this eternal blazon must not be
To ears of flesh and blood.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:50:10pm |
re: #443 jcw46
I've noticed that "we" tend to be rather lax in our use of vowel sounds as well. A "Pen" can be mouthed as "pan', "pin" or "pun", but used in the correct context, we get it. People I know from Asia and more Easternly countries get very confused, very fast.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:50:42pm |
re: #434 jwb7605
You forgot hydrocodone. I had to tell a doctor to make damn sure I needed the stuff, because I was beginning to like it too much.
Doh.........This is hydrocodone.....substitute for vicodin.... hydrocodone-APAP 7.5-750 Tamck..... What ever the hell that means.... I'm not pharmacist...
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:51:03pm |
re: #447 SpartanWoman
Vicodin 7.5/750 750 is the tylenol part
Two of those was what I almost got hooked on (bladder cancer operations).
Nasty, nasty, nasty. But pleasant.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:51:13pm |
re: #435 krycek
Registered since: Jan 4, 2005 at 10:20 amNo. of comments posted: 7
No. of links posted: 0Ho hum.
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NY Nana Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:51:31pm |
re: #19 SpartanWoman
Can non-lizards vote? Or are Edgar, Eide and that crazy lady from france here?
Oy, Canada! Alas, that crazy lady is from Montreal, PQ.
And I don't blame Canada, I blame the parents that dragged brought her up.
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:51:32pm |
She beat his ass. She beat his ass but good.
Damn, I love a tough woman.
Where's Mandy?
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:51:38pm |
re: #423 Sharmuta
Left sidebar, under "tools" you'll find a link.
Is there any way to make donation if a lizard does not have paypal or amazon?
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:51:41pm |
re: #12 zombie
I need to take my tanto pike and work my way up-thread, I have not heard from the 20 posts since well past 200, sappers on the trial I think...
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Aussie Infidel Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:51:58pm |
Not sure why that cut some of my post out...
I'll try again:-
BUT was excommunication ever considered? It'll only take one high level action and the rest of the 'helicopter' catholics will take note and modify their behavior.
There! Fixed
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:52:23pm |
re: #454 jwb7605
Two of those was what I almost got hooked on (bladder cancer operations).
Nasty, nasty, nasty. But pleasant.
see my 453....
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pablito Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:52:52pm |
Is it just me or did Biden get some kind of third rate face-lift or eye-lift thing.
I kind of feel sorry for the guy at this point. Sheesh.
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SpartanWoman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:52:59pm |
night lizards. I'm glad Palin did so beautifully and I am relieved it is over.
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Drill_Thrawl Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:53:11pm |
re: #434 jwb7605
You forgot hydrocodone. I had to tell a doctor to make damn sure I needed the stuff, because I was beginning to like it too much.
That's the generic for vicodin. Oxycode is generic for percocet. Oxycontin is large does (40 -60 mg) timed release percocet. Hmmmmm percocet.
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:53:49pm |
re: #435 krycek
Yeah, dude? I got a sock puppet over at Kos doing the same thing. Only he's signing up voters. Rats are jumping ship over there like the Andrea Dorea.
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:53:54pm |
re: #408 Wishing
Yes he did tear up, but was when talking about losing his wife and kids in car wreck. I am sorry he lost his family, no one can know that pain unless you have been through it.
Nonetheless, It was a Hilary moment, and kiss of death for the Zero, Biden, and all of em. IMO, they lost it right there.
I doubt it will be the kiss of death for Biden. But I did believe that it was a blatant trap: get Sarah Palin off her game by sucking her into his grief. I noticed that she completely ignored it.
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kynna Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:54:01pm |
I couldn't get on here, so I checked out the thread at Lucianne where it was all cheerleading. I'm so glad to read your comments as well. They're much more nuanced and fair. Not that I don't love the Lucianne crowd, but they were not going to be negative for even one minute. So it's nice to see a tough audience give Palin the thumbs up.
My hubby got home late and he's watching it now. His first impression was that Biden seemed like he really knew what he was talking about. I'd wanted him to watch it without my input since he's pretty apolitical and less ... ahem ... informed than I am, but I couldn't help but rant about the lies.
In any case, he'll give me the verdict when he's done.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:54:08pm |
re: #453 doriangrey
When I am prescribed addictive stuff, I only get enough to make sure I get two "good" night's sleep. I figure if I can sleep thru the night I can handle the day with over-the-counter pain relievers. If the pain lasts longer than two days, I go back to the pharmacy for another night's worth. Just because they write the script for 30 days or whatever, dosen't mean you need to get all 30 days filled from the pharmacist.
I am a highly addictive person --sometimes having to make that trip to the pharmacy is all I need to remind me of that.
I will not have it around the house.
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NY Nana Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:54:10pm |
re: #437 Mich-again
Biden looked like a male version of Joan Rivers. Yech.
You owe me...really large Fresca™ spew...first one in ages!
/He didn't look that good.
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Opilio Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:54:12pm |
re: #440 doriangrey
Hmmm, Bottle says.... 7.5-750? Cant honestly say I know what it means... Thought it meant 750mg...
7.5 mg hydrocodone/750 mg acetaminophen (tylenol) per tablet.
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:54:31pm |
re: #458 Inquisitive
You don't have to have a paypal account to use paypal.
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Adina in Judea Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:54:35pm |
Tonight's debate shows what a difference it makes when all of Sarah Palin's remarks are shown without all her best comments being edited out (as happened in the Charlie Gibson and in the Frau Blücher, er Katie Couric, interviews.)
If the MSM did this to Obama, most of his interviews would be filled with "Uh..." from beginning to end. They let him get away with sputtering in press conferences (over 7 minutes worth of "Uh..."s in one 45 minute press conference alone, as I recall.)
The MSM sees the election as finished, in their view. They don't want to be covering the evening of November 4th like a funeral again (as they did in 2004 when they realized that Kerry was losing.)
If the MSM were being honest, they'd hire Osama bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as anchors. They have truly turned into America's enemies, too.
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Bobibutu Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:54:56pm |
re: #345 neocon hippie
I also think McCain and Palin need to go right for the straight talk about the mortgage meltdown: the CRA, the Dem connection incl Obama to Fannie-Freddie, Obama's connection to Frank Raines and Jim Johnson, call out Dodd and Frank, point out that McCain (mention the Bush administration only in response to the Dems blaming it) spoke up about what was going on.
Are they saving that one?
Inquiring minds wish to know.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:55:00pm |
re: #455 realwest
I know, the trolls and mobys have been so obvious and boring lately. Not good eatin'.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:55:10pm |
re: #465 Drill_Thrawl
That's the generic for vicodin. Oxycode is generic for percocet. Oxycontin is large does (40 -60 mg) timed release percocet. Hmmmmm percocet.
Fortunately for me, Oxycodone gives me nightmares. I tried to kill a nurse on that stuff, so they switched me. Nurse forgave me, and said it wasn't uncommon.
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Intrepid Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:55:12pm |
I hate that Dianna missed the debate tonight! She would have loved it. Hope she comes on later on so she can catch a little of the post-debate joy.
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pablito Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:55:23pm |
re: #449 Eric Cartman's Conscience
We get it Peggy. You're sorry about the "it's over comment". Apology accepted.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:56:11pm |
re: #458 Inquisitive
Yes - if you e-mail Charles he'll send you a address you can use to send a check.
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Wendya Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:56:39pm |
re: #44 Pawn of the Oppressor
"John really voted this way, John really voted that way, look at his record, the woman to my left is lying", he kept saying it, he kept getting away with it
When you know you're going to get the last word before the moderator moves on, it's easy to slip in a whopper and he did every single chance he got.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:57:00pm |
re: #469 ggt
When I am prescribed addictive stuff, I only get enough to make sure I get two "good" night's sleep. I figure if I can sleep thru the night I can handle the day with over-the-counter pain relievers. If the pain lasts longer than two days, I go back to the pharmacy for another night's worth. Just because they write the script for 30 days or whatever, dosen't mean you need to get all 30 days filled from the pharmacist.
I am a highly addictive person --sometimes having to make that trip to the pharmacy is all I need to remind me of that.
I will not have it around the house.
They just pulled 22 of my teeth... I have had hydrocodone before, doesnt have much of a desirable affect on me. Other than to relieve pain. will use it while I have it... Wont miss it when its gone...
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kynna Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:57:09pm |
re: #408 Wishing
Yes he did tear up, but was when talking about losing his wife and kids in car wreck. I am sorry he lost his family, no one can know that pain unless you have been through it.
Nonetheless, It was a Hilary moment, and kiss of death for the Zero, Biden, and all of em. IMO, they lost it right there.
I think his quickie come back from his 'veklempt' (sp?) moment pegged him a phony. I'm not saying it wouldn't be tough to talk about his wife's death but he's talked about it before without misting. As sorry as I am for his and his family's loss, it seemed false at that moment.
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Adina in Judea Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:57:46pm |
re: #463 pablito
Is it just me or did Biden get some kind of third rate face-lift or eye-lift thing.
There's something weird going on with his eyes.
He looks like he had a face-lift where all the excess skin was sewn up into his eye sockets.
Also, the makeup he wears on these eyes make him look like an alien being.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:58:19pm |
re: #461 Aussie Infidel
Actually, IIRC, a few years ago the, dang I can't remember the name or titles. There are official RC lawyers --counsellors in Vatican Law that can sue and get a person excommunicated. Some big public figure (now, It's coming back to me) --JFKerry in the last election for his living with Theresa before he got his annullment.--it went all the way to Rome. But, as all things at the Vatican, these things take years.
Now if I could remember the name of the "official counsellors" I might be able to find a link . . . .
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:58:34pm |
re: #469 ggt
Well, as someone who has been taking prescription morphine for my cancer for 3 years, I can tell you that doctors don't refer to you as an addict, but rather say you're dependent on it.
I don't see the difference, myself.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:59:17pm |
re: #488 realwest
Well, as someone who has been taking prescription morphine for my cancer for 3 years, I can tell you that doctors don't refer to you as an addict, but rather say you're dependent on it.
I don't see the difference, myself.
Good evening real... how you feeling?
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 9:59:51pm |
re: #453 doriangrey
That's very weak tract in LA LAND! MOST of the sheep I deal with have up-graded to pushing for the max NORCO claiming a Fatal allergy to WORK! Then again, the oxycontin
zombies are starting to make themselves known as well.....no doubt supporters of the "O"
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:00:14pm |
re: #471 Opilio
Geez, if dorian's getting 7.5 mg hydrocodone, what the hell does he need Tylenol for - it's not even any good as an anti-inflammatory.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:00:20pm |
re: #488 realwest
Well, as someone who has been taking prescription morphine for my cancer for 3 years, I can tell you that doctors don't refer to you as an addict, but rather say you're dependent on it.
I don't see the difference, myself.
In your case, hopefully you'll get the chance to suffer withdrawals.
God bless you. Been there, don't want to go back.
I mean it.
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:00:21pm |
re: #473 Sharmuta
You don't have to have a paypal account to use paypal.
Well....yep I'm going to ask a stupid question.......how do I get to paypal......www.paypal.com or what?
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jcw46 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:00:39pm |
re: #463 pablito
Is it just me or did Biden get some kind of third rate face-lift or eye-lift thing.
I kind of feel sorry for the guy at this point. Sheesh.
Nancy "Facelift? I don't need no steenking facelift" Pelousy and he hit some Botox earlier today. (allegedly:>)
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:01:04pm |
re: #484 doriangrey
Then you are a lucky person. I went thru major orthopaedic surgery and was off the morphine within 12 hours and did mostly (two nights of the vicodin--like I said up thread) tylenol the rest of the time.
Use it when you need it, but please, BE CAREFUL!
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Sharmuta Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:01:14pm |
re: #493 Inquisitive
Under "tools" in the left sidebar is a link to donate with paypal. Use that.
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:01:43pm |
Make a note, people: The next debates are on the 7th and the 15th. They just repeated that info in closing on FNC.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:01:46pm |
re: #489 doriangrey
Damn cold again - can't raise the weather channel, but it's supposed to get down to 40 tonight according to Mom who watched the local weathchannel.
How are you holding up my friend?
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Aussie Infidel Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:02:16pm |
re: #487 ggt
It'll only take one high level ex communication and the helicopter catholics will scatter like leaves before an autumn wind. There politicians have the option of removing themselves from any morally problematic question. When they indulge themselves up to their armpits they deserve what is coming to them. We have the same problem 'downunder'. with catholic politicians who put their morals to one side for political gain. The trouble is that there is never a price to pay for this two faced behavior.
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snuffyword Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:02:29pm |
OT, Did anyone see the segment of Bill O'Reilly vs. Barney Franks? That was CLASSIC! Bill was being boorish and Barney was called a coward. Just think if the debates were like that. "C'mon Mav, let's see some of that pilot shit." - or something to that effect.
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Inquisitive Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:02:46pm |
re: #496 Sharmuta
Under "tools" in the left sidebar is a link to donate with paypal. Use that.
Thanks...... I'll have to try
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:02:49pm |
re: #489 doriangrey
Tell REALWEST that Roxanol is far better for what ails him. Trust me, I know my art.
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:03:23pm |
Okay. One serious question I had on tonight's debate was Biden's talking point about spending more money in three weeks in Iraq than we've spent since 2001 in Afgahnistan. Given Slow Joe's propensity for bullshit, how much of that is the truth, and in what context does he mean?
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:03:32pm |
re: #492 jwb7605
Yeah, well I figure IF I BEAT THIS CANCER, then I'll have to go on something else to get off the morphine.
Can't do without it now, that's for damn sure.
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Aussie Infidel Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:04:22pm |
re: #503 Noam Sayin'
My bullshit meter went off-scale at that point. i may have to replace the spring!
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:04:36pm |
re: #488 realwest
there is a point where the pain "eats-up" the drug's euphoric affects. When it no longer does that -- usually, it's time to stop. Some of us (me) aren't that good at the stopping part. I've had to learn how to do that.
I usually find that it doesn't do much really for the pain, it just makes me not care about the pain and let's me sleep. I find sleep is what my body really needs to heal. overall, for me, it's scary stuff.
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:04:57pm |
re: #500 snuffyword
OT, Did anyone see the segment of Bill O'Reilly vs. Barney Franks? That was CLASSIC! Bill was being boorish and Barney was called a coward. Just think if the debates were like that. "C'mon Mav, let's see some of that pilot shit." - or something to that effect.
Hehe! Yeah, they just repeated a piece of it moments ago. It was a joy to behold! :D :D :D
I hope it shows up on YouTube, AND LiveLeak, AND... wherever else we can think of to put it.
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krycek Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:05:00pm |
What liberals hate are facts. Time is running out. McCain needs to mention that Obama has received the most money from Fannie, second only to Dodd. Despite only being in the senate for what...3 years. And mention his affiliation with ACORN. It's time to lay blame for this crisis on Dodd, Frank, and Obama.
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Bobibutu Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:05:08pm |
re: #469 ggt
When I am prescribed addictive stuff, I only get enough to make sure I get two "good" night's sleep. I figure if I can sleep thru the night I can handle the day with over-the-counter pain relievers. If the pain lasts longer than two days, I go back to the pharmacy for another night's worth. Just because they write the script for 30 days or whatever, doesn't mean you need to get all 30 days filled from the pharmacist.
I am a highly addictive person --sometimes having to make that trip to the pharmacy is all I need to remind me of that.
I will not have it around the house.
Good on ya.
In a book my Dr. wrote, she used my story as an example of addiction to pain killers before she got ahold of me.
[Link: www.getprolo.com...]
She is the only doctor I trust with my body. I am sure there are others - I only take referrals to others from her.
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snuffyword Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:05:29pm |
re: #503 Noam Sayin'
Okay. One serious question I had on tonight's debate was Biden's talking point about spending more money in three weeks in Iraq than we've spent since 2001 in Afgahnistan. Given Slow Joe's propensity for bullshit, how much of that is the truth, and in what context does he mean?
I don't have the numbers but he could be right. The only problem is, we have about 10 times the footprint in Iraq than we do in Afghanistan.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:05:49pm |
re: #502 Nightwatch
Why not tell me yourself?! Why is it better and why have 4 different oncologists prescribed morphine for me?
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Rakkasah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:06:16pm |
re: #480 Sharmuta
FYI- there's a new thread up on Biden's lies on Lebanon.
Thanks, Sharmuta (I always feel like I'm calling you the "B" word, lol)
I'll check out the thread.
I admit to being less-informed than most people here. Biden really did, to my uneducated eyes, appear to know what he was talking about. I didn't feel quite so satisfied with Palin's answers and admit to feeling very confused about who to vote for.
That said, I'm definitely going to do some homework.
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thriggle Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:06:59pm |
re: #424 NomadOfNorad
Actually, I was of the impression that enormity's definition has been updated to agree with the common (once considered mistaken) usage.
/Meaning comes from use! Wittgenstein FTW!
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:07:47pm |
re: #504 realwest
Yeah, well I figure IF I BEAT THIS CANCER, then I'll have to go on something else to get off the morphine.
Can't do without it now, that's for damn sure.
I'd like to say something clever or witty, but words fail me.
Beat it. Attitude and faith accounts for a bunch. Equal measures.
They originally gave me about a 20% chance.
I'm now in their list of "people that beat the odds" talk, totally with my permission.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:08:00pm |
re: #499 Aussie Infidel
Sad, the Vatican doesn't publicly excommunicate people anymore and if they do now, they MSM and popular thought will equate it with the "fatwa du jour" of the Imams.
They'll try to water it down and make it seem like the ratings of the lunatic church, while giving "PC respect" to the Imams.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:08:24pm |
re: #498 realwest
Damn cold again - can't raise the weather channel, but it's supposed to get down to 40 tonight according to Mom who watched the local weathchannel.
How are you holding up my friend?
Feeling kind of like someone took a baseball bat to my mouth... But I guess that is to be expected. The dentist also gave me motron, but I had to quit taking it because it was killing my stomach. Having a can of cream of asparagus and a bottle of ensure for supper right now. Damned stitches in my mouth itch something fierce... But I suppose it could be much worse...
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:08:37pm |
re: #504 realwest
Friend, try the low dose Roxanol, liquid, no pills, wean off with methadone after 2-3 weeks
I know, bad rap with methadone, but it works,, stay strong, have faith and PRAY!
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:08:55pm |
re: #506 ggt
Oh, TRUST ME ggt, the morphine I'm on does just fine for the pain! And I've never once gotten high off of it.
Though I did miss one dose of the Immediate Release and knew within an hour I'd forgotten to take it!
Sharp stomach pains, diahreahha, pleasant stuff like that.
As I said, if I beat the cancer they're gonna have to put me on Methadone for about 3-4 weeks.
But I'd rather that then die of the cancer.
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Rakkasah Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:10:34pm |
re: #518 Sharmuta
There's another new thread on Biden.
I'm opening a new window right now. It's been a long time since chatting with fellow Lizards; this thread is moving so fast, it's hard to follow two at a time.
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jwb7605 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:11:06pm |
outta here. Top thread for a while
RealWest: you done affected me tonight.
That seldom happens.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:11:54pm |
re: #515 jwb7605
Good for you. They originally gave me 8 months, some three years and two months ago, but its become more aggressive this year so I'm speaking to a radiation oncologist next week to see what can be done.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:12:00pm |
re: #504 realwest
Yeah, well I figure IF I BEAT THIS CANCER, then I'll have to go on something else to get off the morphine.
Can't do without it now, that's for damn sure.
Yup, beat the cancer first, worry about the small shit later. Compared to dying drug addiction is a pretty small problem.
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ggt Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:12:22pm |
re: #521 realwest
Oh real! How awful. I am so sorry you have to go thru this, but happy you are here to tell me about it. :)
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:12:44pm |
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DaMav Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:13:14pm |
What an incredible job Sarah Palin did. I am imagining people all over America who are barely paying attention saying, "Who was this space cadet the media has been telling us about the last two weeks?" And in full throated Algore style, "They LIED to us!".
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:14:08pm |
re: #520 Nightwatch
I do all those things - and my oncologist says if it's too late for the radiation then I can say goodbye. Fuck that - I'm gonna fight it as long and with whatever tools are medically available to me.
I didn't beat their predicitions by over 2 years by saying "oh, ok!" LOL!
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:14:59pm |
re: #517 irongrampa
Do you smell troll too?
Yup.... to bad my mouth hurts or I would say lets cook up some gamey troll buttocks.... lol...lol...lol...
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:15:39pm |
re: #524 jwb7605
Hope I affected you in a good way! I ususally don't talk about it out here.
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musicman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:16:01pm |
re: #440 doriangrey
Hmmm, Bottle says.... 7.5-750? Cant honestly say I know what it means... Thought it meant 750mg...
The ones I'm taking for the knee surgery I had today say 7.5-325MTAB
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:16:41pm |
re: #529 DaMav
What an incredible job Sarah Palin did. I am imagining people all over America who are barely paying attention saying, "Who was this space cadet the media has been telling us about the last two weeks?" And in full throated Algore style, "They LIED to us!".
Yup..... There are some MSM assholes who are going to find themselves having to answer questions from some very pissed off viewers...
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Vero Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:17:14pm |
re: #441 Syrah
T-he you are talking about me and the poll that i gave fake answers too short while back for Ohio - I think i lied on every single question, including the "big one" That I am going to vote for Mr. Obama.
The girl on the phone sounded totally giddy with my,err, support.
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StirUpTheBlog Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:17:40pm |
According the CNN "rate as you go" line graph during the debate, Ohio's undecided voter's thought Biden was most acceptable when he choked up at the reflection of nearly losing his child. It was divided into Male/Female. It was interesting to note that the Female movement was more immediate, which tells me their vote is more an emotional than an intellectual decision. The Men's graph moved slowly but steadily, and more during points of policy (current and future). Fascinating, what?
Time to STIRITUP...
Washington could free up $7.48 trillion/yr by implementing the Logan's Run Amendment - Bill Number LR2116 ! Introduced by Rep PalmFlower, from the LastDay Sancuary. "It's time for your SleepShot Mr Biden." =)
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Drill_Thrawl Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:17:58pm |
re: #491 realwest
Geez, if dorian's getting 7.5 mg hydrocodone, what the hell does he need Tylenol for - it's not even any good as an anti-inflammatory.
Tylenol is an analgesic. It is used because it gives a boost to the narcotic without additional addictive side effects.
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HD Woman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:18:18pm |
Good Morning, Night-shift!
I gave up on reading ALL the posts, but looks like there's more than a consensus about Palin winning the VP debate. Sic 'em Sarah!
My count for Biden's was 10 blatant lies and 4 half-truths, sound about right?
You can see Biden being physically and vocally deflated after every "and you were right Joe" or "and I respect you for that." Palin heaped spoonfuls of honey and sugar on his head!
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:18:30pm |
re: #514 thriggle
Actually, I was of the impression that enormity's definition has been updated to agree with the common (once considered mistaken) usage.
/Meaning comes from use! Wittgenstein FTW!
-=*sigh*=-
This is one of the little flaws of the English language: Sometimes a word which has a unique, specialized meaning ever so slowly loses that meaning... without something else coming along to take its place. A similar thing happened ages ago to the word "hopefully," which centuries ago had the meaning of "To go forward in a hopeful manner, with the spirit of hope in one's heart." As in, "Sir Galihad went forward hopefully into battle." Ages and ages later, "hopefully" took on the connotation of "Oh, I hope he gets it." or "Gee, I hope he succeeds." :-|
But, I guess we have to live with that little flaw in our language, because the alternative is to have a bunch of elitist, pointy-headed chairwarmers in a room somewhere micromanaging the language, and making correct word usage a matter of state law. Like, say, French. That's one of those things that REALLY gets me all bent out of shape sometimes.
I guess this is the lesser of two evils. :)
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:19:15pm |
re: #511 realwest
Your breaking my heart, Try the Roxanol, since I don't know what your primary is (please don't tell me) I do know too much already. Just give it a try short term. If your in chemo or other invasive therapies, this will not hurt and may help. I will tell too much of myself if I go into any more detail. Just know this.. I will pray for you and advise you in my limited cap. I think of you as a very good man who was delt a bad hand.
Respect always,
Richard J. Brehme Jr.
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pink freud Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:19:32pm |
re: #515 jwb7605
You have a wonderful photo album (I love the eagle in the tree - lucky you!), and a beautiful family.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:20:33pm |
re: #533 realwest
Hope I affected you in a good way! I ususally don't talk about it out here.
It always affects me in a positive way.... I am amazed by your perseverance and courage. I lost a brother of mine 2 years ago to brain cancer, so I have a pretty good idea what you are going through. And yes I pray for you daily. You are an enormous encouragement to me. It's why I usually wait until you post in the morning before I leave for work.
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stuiec Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:20:44pm |
Wall Street Journal online poll running with Biden ahead at the moment.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:24:20pm |
re: #545 stuiec
Wall Street Journal online poll running with Biden ahead at the moment.
56.6 Biden 42.6 Palin.... Come on lizards, vote her up.....
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HD Woman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:26:00pm |
re: #533 realwest
Hope I affected you in a good way! I ususally don't talk about it out here.
I'm glad you did. Thanksgiving this year, I'll be cancer free for 5 years. I want to let you know how much Ensure w/ extra protein and fiber helped my body stay as strong as possible during the treatments. I couldn't drink it cold, or all at once, but I know it made a big difference.
God will tell you how much time you have. not the doctors. OXOX
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PuritanicalRightWingNutjob Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:27:55pm |
re: #227 maddogg
Talk about getting off on the wrong foot (which, please to note does NOT contain any tingling sensations).
I thought that Biden looked superficially better than Palin, and I thought she let him get away with too much nonsense. That's an honest assessment.
Apologies for inciting wrath among the lizards.
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Wendya Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:28:23pm |
re: #511 realwest
Why not tell me yourself?! Why is it better and why have 4 different oncologists prescribed morphine for me?
I don't know the specifics about your cancer but I have a neighbor who is on his third go around with leukemia. We thought we were going to lose him last year but he managed to get in a clinical trial at MD Anderson and he's slowly climbing back. He's been on morphine for as long as I've known him (3.5 years) and it's allowed him to have as normal a life as possible. Yeah, there are things much worse than morphine dependency.
Good luck to you.
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:28:33pm |
re: #534 musicman
ALRIGHT YA FUCKIN LAYMEN!
7.5 miligrams of FUCKIN HYDROCODONE (an opiate for the FUCKIN LAYMEN)
375 miligrams of TYLENOL got IT?
Vicodin also comes in 5/500 mg you do the math!
FUCK, WHERE'S MY WINE!
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:29:45pm |
re: #542 Nightwatch
Thank you very kindly. If y'all ever want to chat, my nic's in blue, just click it, go through Charles little coding stuff and voila - you'll have my e-mail addy!
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:30:59pm |
re: #544 doriangrey
Whoa dorian - I don't know what to say except thank you for saying that.
But I'll give ya some inside news: I ain't all that brave!
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Bobibutu Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:31:00pm |
re: #545 stuiec
Wall Street Journal online poll running with Biden ahead at the moment.
Gee whiz - could not connect to the database ...
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freedombilly Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:34:53pm |
I saw 30 seconds on mute and she definitely looked better. So I voted for her.
That and I could probably guess about 90% of what he said.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:35:21pm |
re: #552 realwest
Whoa dorian - I don't know what to say except thank you for saying that.
But I'll give ya some inside news: I ain't all that brave!
Courage isn't the absence of fear my friend. Courage is doing what you have to do, what you know is right even though you are scared shitless. You are far braver than you realize.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:36:22pm |
re: #553 Bobibutu
Gee whiz - could not connect to the database ...
I had to try twice, but I got through, I think their server is under a serious load. try again and dont give up....
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freedombilly Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:36:28pm |
re: #552 realwest
You are an inspiration to more of us in these here parts than you'll ever know. Those are just the facts.
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:37:15pm |
re: #546 doriangrey
56.6 Biden 42.6 Palin.... Come on lizards, vote her up.....
Darnit, I keep getting:
phpBB : Critical Error
Could not connect to the database
-=*sigh*=-
We've crashed their database! :D :D :D :D
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:39:02pm |
re: #547 HD Woman
Thank you, and yes, God will have the final word, but his Son did say "God helps those who help themselves" so I ain't gonna quit until He says Come!
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:39:54pm |
re: #558 NomadOfNorad
Darnit, I keep getting:
phpBB : Critical Error
Could not connect to the database
-=*sigh*=-
We've crashed their database! :D :D :D :D
Yup, looks crashed alright.... Or they have rigged their poll....
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:41:06pm |
re: #556 doriangrey
It's Biden 52, Palin 46 - but I voted a couple of times, if you vote, then get off the "forum" and close out of WSJ, then go back there, you can vote again. Just keep doing the same thing and you can probably vote 100 times if you want to stay up all night! LOL!
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:41:59pm |
re: #559 realwest
Thank you, and yes, God will have the final word, but his Son did say "God helps those who help themselves" so I ain't gonna quit until He says Come!
Ummm, actually no he didnt... What he said was... God helps those who cannot help themselves. Or to be more exact... He who is healthy hath no need of a physician, I am come to help the sick....
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Pepper Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:42:10pm |
Biden's bio and explanation of the much touted eyebrow issue
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StirUpTheBlog Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:42:28pm |
As of now...
Wall Street Journal online poll running with Biden ahead at the moment.56.6 Biden 42.6 Palin.... Come on lizards, vote her up.....
As of now...
Joe Biden 65211 votes (52.8%)
Sarah Palin 57497 votes (46.5%)
Neither 912 votes (0.7%)
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Scion9 Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:42:31pm |
Oh, jeez. Can you take back your vote? This digital butterfly ballot confused the hell out of me. I think I might have voted for Buchanan by accident.
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freedombilly Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:42:45pm |
re: #563 Pepper
Biden's bio and explanation of the much touted eyebrow issue
And Pelosi and Joan Rivers have never had any work done either!
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:43:11pm |
re: #557 freedombilly
Thank you, too. I hoped by posting about it waaay back when I first did, that several people - mostly guys or guys with sweetharts who care - would learn from my experience, that's all.
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:44:12pm |
re: #565 Scion9
Oh, jeez. Can you take back your vote? This digital butterfly ballot confused the hell out of me. I think I might have voted for Buchanan by accident.
ROFL!
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Oldbluesboy Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:45:34pm |
This not a debate between Palin and Biden. The bottom line is, quoting Saul Alinsky:
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer“
Alinsky would be (and probably is) proud of Obama.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:45:35pm |
Biden 51 Palin 48..... Lets go Lizards.....
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:46:26pm |
re: #568 StirUpTheBlog
She's gaining, .. EVERYONE go hit it!
I'm gonna try it this time in Internet Exploder, under the theory that FireFox isn't doing it right... :-/
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freedombilly Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:47:16pm |
re: #572 NomadOfNorad
I'm gonna try it this time in Internet Exploder, under the theory that FireFox isn't doing it right... :-/
I used FireFox but had to try ten times for it to work.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:47:30pm |
Woot - it's now Biden 50.8 and Palin 48.5! Go for it lizards - just remember to load the page, slowly scan down like you're readin' it, then vote, then get off vote forum and out of WSJ on line and come back here.
Then wash and repeat! LOL
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StirUpTheBlog Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:47:56pm |
New York Times, September 30, 1999
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.
[Link: query.nytimes.com...]
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freedombilly Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:51:14pm |
50.0% to 49.3% for Palin now! This is fun.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:53:16pm |
Crap they must be on to me! But keep voting lizards!
Gotta get her a justifable victory here, ESPECIALLY in the Wall Street Journal!
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musicman Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:55:01pm |
re: #550 Nightwatch
Good grief man, I was making a statement. I will admit I am not a pharmacist but that for sure does not give you the right to use such horrendous language in dressing me down.
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realwest Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:56:49pm |
Well all y'all it's been grand - and humbling - tonight, but I gotta get some sleep.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Gooodnight, all.
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doriangrey Thu, Oct 2, 2008 10:59:53pm |
re: #584 realwest
Well all y'all it's been grand - and humbling - tonight, but I gotta get some sleep.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.Gooodnight, all.
Good night and god bless you realwest.....
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 11:00:05pm |
Good night lizards, Can I attempt an Irish blessing....
"May the road rise to meet you,
"May the wind be always at your back,"
"May the rain fall softly on your fields,"
"And the sun shine warmly on your face,"
"And until we meet again," "May the Lord hold you in the hollow of
his hands."
RJB
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Nightwatch Thu, Oct 2, 2008 11:08:49pm |
re: #581 musicman
Please accept my very humble apology, MY work is most times a level or 2 below HOUSE on a daily basis. Medicine, the Healing Art, is a VERY broken concept in the Sunshine state.
I do what is needed, 12 hours a day 5 days a week. I'm human too.
Again, please excuse my poor behavior in responding to a legitimate question.
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NomadOfNorad Thu, Oct 2, 2008 11:09:23pm |
I now see the results as 46.8% for Biden, 52.5%. LOL! We're tipping it, lizards, we're tipping it! Buahahahahaha!
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Stuck-in-CA Thu, Oct 2, 2008 11:25:31pm |
Palin scores! After what the media and leftwing blogs have put this poor woman and her family through, she was the picture of grace and optimism. What was best is that since they were only debating once, and she took charge of the debate by turning back to the ideas SHE felt are most important to Americans.....energy independence and reform in government (including making sure we never again have a meltdown like the one that happened last week on this Democrat Congress' watch.)
She scored big...and even the lefties know it (though they can't find it in their stone cold partisan hearts to admit it).
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Catttt Fri, Oct 3, 2008 1:20:17am |
re: #239 Ojoe
It was her feast day a few days ago. I'll e mail you a photo of a church dedicated to her in the LA area.
Except, where's your e-mail on that web page?
I will check tomorrow.
Good Night All
I will be around tomorrow - day off! We will figure out something. I don't want everyone to know my e-mail address. :D
Saint Therese is amazing. When I bought a slightly used almost new Camaro once, I opened the glove box - there was a Saint Therese prayer card in it (and a McDonalds employment app, which is probably why the car was for sale). I still have it.
Several years ago, in the back room of a used furniture store, I looked down an aisle, and there Saint Therese was (statue). I still have her.
I went to pick up my former roomie at a Pagan convention once. She's Wiccan. I looked around, and who should I see but Saint Therese - prayer cards on a Santeria sales display. She represents the Yoruba goddess Oya in the Santeria religion, but of course I knew who she was - the Little Flower - popping up for me everywhere. :D
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back fourty Fri, Oct 3, 2008 2:01:07am |
Yup..Alaska Girl Kicked ass. I am way happy to see that one.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Oct 3, 2008 4:30:56am |
I'd score it a draw, but the Guv made a very good showing. She's gotta drop the Maverick branding. She repeated a lot of talking points at the end that she had made early on, but for her first debate in the big leagues she did very well.
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Oct 3, 2008 5:58:15am |
Unfortunately, I was at work when the debates happened, so I couldn't cast a valid vote. I would've loved to have seen them, though, because I believe the hockey mom would've rendered Biden toothless.
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XMarine Fri, Oct 3, 2008 7:39:10am |
May Hashem forgive me, but I hit the wrong button.
Take a vote away from Joe (tell me it ain't so) and give it to the esteemed Governor of Alaska and Next Vice President, Sarah Palin.
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Sol Roth Fri, Oct 3, 2008 7:41:19am |
Couldn't get on last night so I leave this for posterity.
Sarah mastered both the subject matter, the exchanges and the TV persona. It was painful to watch Biden dementedly manufacture alternate histories and fact patterns. He performed with the antiquated rhetorical flourishes he's practiced for 35 years in the Senate all with the energy of worn-out, Tijuana bar skank.
But the worst was the crocodile tear for his poor dead wife that he drags out whenever he's losing a debate. That was truly disgusting. It was the true measure of a practiced machiavellian.
The best part was the Reaganesque, "There you go again, Joe." After 20 years of RINO and socialist BS, I finally have a true Republican leader in the running.
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geoffputerbaugh Fri, Oct 3, 2008 10:29:14am |
Big surprise! The MSM call Biden the winner of the debate!
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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vladh Fri, Oct 3, 2008 10:29:21am |
Curios... I just checked CNN poll - "grade the debate" ([Link: www.cnn.com...]
I gave Sarah an "A" grade, clicked next and saw: "Your grade: A, Average grade: D". Ok, then went to grade Biden: Gave him a "B",click Next... what do I see? "Your grade is "A", Average: "B"
isn't that cute? anyone tried this poll to see if they get different results?
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heidi586 Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:38:26am |
#602 "anyone tried this poll to see if they get different results?" vladh
I tried the same poll - giving the same grades as you and the results were the same....saying I gavce Joe an 'A'....neat how that works huh!?
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