Biden lied, kids died.

How can you tell when Joe Biden is lying?

His lips are moving.

Joe's pants are on fire.

re: #3 Sharmuta

Joe's pants are on fire.

That was just his reaction to meeting Sarah.

*ducks

And he keeps getting away with it.

/pulling what little hair I have left out.

I loved that Sarah called him on this.

And look at how he tries to frighten the girl he's talking to: "it's gonna ruin your lungs."

EWWWW! the way he leans in and touches people.
What a smarmy man.

re: #3 Sharmuta

Joe's pants are on fire.

Clean methane!

I think you are all missing the proper nuance.

When he said he was against clean coal, he really meant it, at the time.

And when he says he is for it, he really is for it, at the time.

Silly conservatives with their set values and inflexibility.

I suggest the McCain campaign pick three of his finest lies and shoot a spot.

re: #7 Charles

And look at how he tries to frighten the girl he's talking to: "it's gonna ruin your lungs."

How much you want to bet he is a smoker?

re: #8 newsjunkie_ky

EWWWW! the way he leans in and touches people.
What a smarmy man.

I hope she showered after that. That old person smell is tough to wash of.

re: #7 Charles

And look at how he tries to frighten the girl he's talking to: "it's gonna ruin your lungs."

Nice approach. "Vote for us or die!" This must be the polar opposite of "Liberty or Death".

Isn't lying is a sign of poor character?

I remember this tape well. The man is an idiot. A dangerous idiot.
As for the lying part, debate rules for the Obama team a bit different than those for anyone else.

a - pimf

re: #3 Sharmuta

re: #4 Ford_Prefect

And his nose is growing.

^{What?... Not his nose?... Oh....}

re: #7 Charles

And look at how he tries to frighten the girl he's talking to: "it's gonna ruin your lungs."

It's all they have- fear mongering. It's how they keep women from voting for republicans- they fear monger the abortion issue. So why should the energy/environment be any different.

Hey, he's for clean coal for China, but not the US.

He also makes it absolutely clear that he believes global warming is manmade.

It's nice to see that the science really backs that up. COx emissions increase, but the temperatures have declined over the past decade. Something is amiss when we're incessantly told COx is the cause of global warming. Maybe it has something to do with this.

Meanwhile, how come we had perp walks for Tyco, Worldcom, and Enron, but when Fannie and Freddie engaged in the same kinds of accounting fraud and executive compensation, no one is lifting a finger (via the Anchoress). Better yet, no one is questioning the role that Raines or Johnson had in the scam.

re: #12 Ford_Prefect

How much you want to bet he is a smoker?

His boss is.

re: #15 unrealizedviewpoint

Isn't lying is a sign of poor character?

Guess that would depend on your definition of lying ;>}

///

Joe,

Santa Called.
Expect clean coal in your stocking this year .

re: #16 pat

I remember this tape well. The man is an idiot. A dangerous idiot.
As for the lying part, debate rules for the Obama team a bit different than those for anyone else.

Chariman of the freekin SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMITTEE

and chose by the Obamafreak, because of his

deep knowlege and experience

/WE ARE DOOMED

re: #13 x-wing

I hope she showered after that. That old person smell is tough to wash of.

He has been in the senate for 35 years, that smell is even harder to get off.

Biden should keeps his hands off of young women.

/I could say more but won't

The old dem standard lie: "they're gonna take away your social security." hasn't surfaced yet.

re: #25 newsjunkie_ky

He has been in the senate for 35 years, that smell is even harder to get off.

LOL

re: #7 Charles

And look at how he tries to frighten the girl he's talking to: "it's gonna ruin your lungs."

Shoulda said "And it can make your hair fall out. See?"

re: #25 newsjunkie_ky

He has been in the senate for 35 years, that smell is even harder to get off.

Kind of off topic. What does everyone think about term limits for congress? I think it is time.

Doesn't this sound like to anyone else that he isn't saying he doesn't support clean coal but the United States as a whole isn't? He says "We don't support clean coal! China is building 2 new dirty coal plants a day" so isn't he saying the U.S. isn't supporting clean coal around the world, not that he doesn't support clean coal?

He definitely lied about a lot of stuff last night but I think this one might be getting twisted a little bit....

Does anyone besides me think he should have brought that young lady dinner at least before he pawed her?

He supported clean coal for China, not us.

re: #13 x-wing

I hope she showered after that. That old person smell is tough to wash of.

ah, that's not nice man. no need to be unkind to the older crowd. we'll all be there someday.

~OT:
AFP uses Tina Fey pic from SNL skit in actual news article on Sarah Palin.
LINK

re: #27 unrealizedviewpoint

The old dem standard lie: "they're gonna take away your social security." hasn't surfaced yet.

What SS? The Dems have already given away every dime I could ever put into it.

re: #24 ploome hineni

I would say fully 50% of Senators come across to me as if they were in the early statges of dementia. Another 10% clearly are demented.

A shorter version should be made into a commercial and put on the air in states like PA from now until election day. How can you trust anything this guy says?

OT but where in the hell is Howard "The Scream" Dean? I have not seen his face anywhere. I never watch MSNBC and rarely CNN so maybe he is hitting those channels but he use to be everywhere.

Lies you get away are the same as the truth.

re: #31 littlerinkus

That is your first post in 9 months? Watch out for some backlash.

re: #30 Ford_Prefect
I'm all for term limits.

re: #20 lawhawk

Hey, he's for clean coal for China, but not the US.

He also makes it absolutely clear that he believes global warming is manmade.

It's nice to see that the science really backs that up. COx emissions increase, but the temperatures have declined over the past decade. Something is amiss when we're incessantly told COx is the cause of global warming. Maybe it has something to do with this.

When he said he believed that global warming is all man-made I wish Palin had asked him, if that is the case, then why is it happening on Mars?

The MSM isn't even mentioning this. Our nation is a travesty.

A Best Of Biden vs Palin commercial could be hilarious. Calling Zucker.

re: #35 RTLM

~OT:
AFP uses Tina Fey pic from SNL skit in actual news article on Sarah Palin.
LINK

Oh that is funny as hell. The media cannot even tell the difference between fact and fiction anymore.

re: #20 lawhawk

Because they're Democrats.

Evidently, anyway.

Johnson and Raines are working with the Obama campaign; that makes arrests political. I'm pretty sure no one's going to arrest prominent people in a nominee's campaign.

Ya know , Biden does not creep me out & make my teeth itch the way that Obama does, but there is something wrong here.
Biden is either a pathological liar or delusional.

re: #35 RTLM

~OT:
AFP uses Tina Fey pic from SNL skit in actual news article on Sarah Palin.

re: #29 Pullus Iulius

Shoulda said "And it can make your hair fall out. See?"

"But don't worry. You can fix it with these neat hair plugs."

re: #31 littlerinkus

I think the quote that matters was "No coal plants here in America". Seems pretty simple to me.

re: #40 sammysdad

Lies you get away with are the same as the truth.

Unless someone calls you on it. Loudly.

Thanks Charles!

re: #31 littlerinkus

Doesn't this sound like to anyone else that he isn't saying he doesn't support clean coal but the United States as a whole isn't? He says "We don't support clean coal! China is building 2 new dirty coal plants a day" so isn't he saying the U.S. isn't supporting clean coal around the world, not that he doesn't support clean coal?

He definitely lied about a lot of stuff last night but I think this one might be getting twisted a little bit....

you are confused.

re: #27 unrealizedviewpoint

The old dem standard lie: "they're gonna take away your social security." hasn't surfaced yet.

I thought it had already been trotted out by Obama at some townhall or other in Florida?

If I made my living as a coal miner, and I heard Biden say this, I wouldn't vote for him. Man's not to be trusted.

re: #37 pat

I would say fully 50% of Senators come across to me as if they were in the early statges of dementia. Another 10% clearly are demented.

lol

re: #30 Ford_Prefect

Kind of off topic. What does everyone think about term limits for congress? I think it is time.

I think it reeks of the nanny state. We can't control ourselves, so we pass a law to protect us from our own choices.

re: #48 opnion

Ya know , Biden does not creep me out & make my teeth itch the way that Obama does, but there is something wrong here.
Biden is either a pathological liar or delusional.

I thought those were the two greatest assets in a Democratic candidate...

Sarah Palin porn film made by Larry Flynt

The Hustler founder has made an X-rated movie using an adult-film actress who resembles the governor of Alaska.

Flynt's team had posted an anonymous advert on the website Craigslist just days after Mrs Palin took the Republican convention by storm last month.

The ad read: "Looking for a Sarah Palin look-alike for an adult film to be shot in the next 10 days."

The actress would be paid $3,000 (£1,700) for the part.

Flynt's spokesman confirmed to the New York Daily News that the film had been shot, but he would not yet reveal the title.

Is Biden in favor of nuclear power?

re: #15 unrealizedviewpoint

Isn't lying is a sign of poor character?

No, lying is a sign of no character.

re: #49 newsjunkie_ky

What does the headline say?

I have no idea.

If Sarah had said she was against clean coal in a rope line, we'd still be hearing about it.

re: #43 CIA Reject

When he said he believed that global warming is all man-made I wish Palin had asked him, if that is the case, then why is it happening on Mars?

There's no need to broach. That war is lost. Global Warming is reality, no matter how big a lie it is.

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sarah Palin porn film made by Larry Flynt

How the heck many people are there out there who look like Sarah Palin? Tina Fey; a friend of mine; and this porn actress. At least.

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #37 pat

I would say fully 50% of Senators come across to me as if they were in the early statges of dementia. Another 10% clearly are demented.

Reader, suppose that you were an idiot. And suppose that you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

- Mark Twain

just keep putting up stuff like this Charles. The MSM will NOT do it. We need resources to be able to send to our undecided friends.

Forget about Biden's lies and misstatements (Yeah, I know thart means to forget about most of what came out of his mouth, but I digress). I am more concerned with the TRUE things he said!

He actually said he wants courts to be able to adjust the PRINCIPAL of a mortgage as well as the interest rate.

Holy Crap!

He and 0bama have said they want to protect people from foreclosure before, this is unbelievable.

Let me see if I have this straight. We are in the middle of a major financial crisis brought on by banks losing untold amounts of money because people can't repay the loans they gave (for whatever reason). And 0bama and Biden want to take away the banks ONLY RECOURSE for recovering some of their losses? Sure, people can't repay their loans, but no Mr. banker, you have no way of recovering anything. You can't take the home you technically own and hopefully sell it to a better credit risk to recover some of your losses.

WTF?

And adjusting PRINCIPAL? OK, so I bought a house for 300k with a 0 down loan, and now it's value has dropped, so it's worth only 200k. I can't pay my mortgage, and declare bankruptcy. The nice judge alters mt mortgage to 150k and lowers my interest rate. Great for me. The bank just lost 150K with absolutely NO CHANCE of ever getting it back. That sure will help with the financial mess we've got going on now!

I still can't make my payments, but now I can sell and pocket 50k. Nice. Hey if the market rebounds I just made 150k. Thank you mr. judge. I'm so sure that no judge anywhere will ever see that as an opportunity for corruption.

At least with foreclosure the bank can recover some of the money it loaned out, and if the market rebounds, it can recover all of it.

re: #35 RTLM

~OT:
AFP uses Tina Fey pic from SNL skit in actual news article on Sarah Palin.

re: #55 Kreuzueber Halbmond

If I made my living as a coal miner, doing anything, and I heard Biden say this, I wouldn't vote for him. Man's not to be trusted.

re: #57 Dianna

But looking at it from the other side you have people who are in office for decades who stay in by earmarking money all over the place and doing favors so they continue to get re-elected.

I'd support term limits. Get in, do your job and go back to being a citizen. I despise some of these guys that have been in for decades.

re: #57 Dianna

I think it reeks of the nanny state. We can't control ourselves, so we pass a law to protect us from our own choices.

The way I see it, it is not so much protecting us from our own choices but from the choices of neighboring states. I live in CT and I am tired of trying to figure out why Massachusetts keeps sending Kennedy to Washington. Or why CT keeps sending Dodd for that matter. I keep voting against him but it just doesn't seem to help.

these threads are coming out almost as fast as the lies from Joe's mouth.....

re: #43 CIA Reject

When he said he believed that global warming is all man-made I wish Palin had asked him, if that is the case,

Why is he groping that girl, and then jabbing his finger in her face?

Bizarre behavior.

re: #43 CIA Reject

When he said he believed that global warming is all man-made I wish Palin had asked him, if that is the case, then why is it happening on Mars?

And it's going to get worse, Global Cooling is our next boogeyman (but this may be real), not caused by humans:
NASA Ulysses

Even CNN was saying that Biden won. They seriously make me want to puke.

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #64 unrealizedviewpoint

Nonsense.

It's a lie. People are realizing it's a lie; I actually heard several people groan at one of those vapid "and fight global warming" bits tacked onto some ad the other day.

Never let a lie go unchallenged.

So he's a casual liar. Lies at the drop of a hat about things that can easily be fact-checked. Adds faux detail, structure, and imaginary context to his lies, which qualifies them as bullshit lies. A dyed-in-the-wool silly bastard.

Honest question: Does it matter?

If it hasn't turned him out of Congress in 30 years, is it going to matter now?

The most well-funded, relentless Republican advertising campaign imaginable, using Biden's own recorded statements, might nudge a few swing voters.

Yeah, he's full of shit. He's a clown. Does it matter? Can it be made to matter?

re: #74 redc1c4

these threads are coming out almost as fast as the lies from Joe's mouth.....

Choosing threads made easy, compliments Joe Lyin' Biden

re: #71 unrealizedviewpoint

Except for hair plug technicians. Their jobs are safe.

Will McCain/Palin PLEASE call out the dems when it comes to Fannie, Freddie and CRA? Who cares if it seems racist to some, most middle Americans will see it as Jessie Jackson-esque whining. Besides, McCain/Palin won't get any of the black vote anyway.

Hit 'em hard or lose, that's pretty much what it comes down to.

re: #78 sarah

Even CNN was saying that Biden won. They seriously make me want to puke.

what do you mean "even"? of course they would call it that way. what do you expect? that is not called the Communist News Network for nothing.

re: #79 soccerdad

It means they are scared. And they should be.

I don't believe Flint made this film. I want to see a link to the video. Oh, nevermind.

/sarc

"That depends on what the meaning of 'truth' is..."
/paraphrasing and sarcastic.

re: #85 Vergeltung

Its just sickening is what I was trying to get at. :(

re: #80 Dianna

Nonsense.

It's a lie. People are realizing it's a lie; I actually heard several people groan at one of those vapid "and fight global warming" bits tacked onto some ad the other day.

Never let a lie go unchallenged.

I guess Cap-N-Trade supported by McCain/Palin ain't real? Myself, I like Cap-N-Crunch.

I suppose some of you caught O'Reilly going nuts on Barney Frank. Wow.
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re: #69 lipsticked pig

Well, provided the readjusted interest rate isn't ridiculous, the bank will still make about triple the principal (or more) from the buyer in interest.

re: #76 Occasional Reader

Why is he groping that girl, and then jabbing his finger in her face?

Bizarre behavior.

It really is. She seems to be a bit of a twit, but she's young. He comes off as a hectoring, intimidating old man.

...............do you suppose banks are deliberately witholding credit

to get this bailout passed?

Well, I understand CNN, etc. claiming Biden won, but what's with Charles Krauthammer in this article today?

I know he didn't take to Sarah, but really, it's a bit much to pretty much completely ignore her the day after the debate. He was also pretty sour about her last night in post-debate analysis, all things considered.

Mort Kondrake said Palin won by a landslide. But then Kondrake actually caught the Biden lies.

re: #88 sarah

Its just sickening is what I was trying to get at. :(

I hear ya! I watch through the prism of presuming all the Alphabet news channels are in the tank for the left, and only really remove the prism for FOX or my (former) daily read, the NY Sun.

re: #73 Ford_Prefect

The way I see it, it is not so much protecting us from our own choices but from the choices of neighboring states. I live in CT and I am tired of trying to figure out why Massachusetts keeps sending Kennedy to Washington. Or why CT keeps sending Dodd for that matter. I keep voting against him but it just doesn't seem to help.

In the end, you want legislate your desires. At least you're not trying to get the judiciary to do it for you.

I'm not pleased with this notion. I've always thought it was a ridiculous abdication of responsibility on the part of the citizenry.

Its time for McCain to cut the shit and use some of the supertanker full of ammo available to him to sink the cardboard candidates. It's stupid and silly for an election between a man and an invertebrate leech to be this close. Ridiculous.

re: #84 JSK1121

Will McCain/Palin PLEASE call out the dems when it comes to Fannie, Freddie and CRA? Who cares if it seems racist to some, most middle Americans will see it as Jessie Jackson-esque whining. Besides, McCain/Palin won't get any of the black vote anyway. Hit 'em hard or lose, that's pretty much what it comes down to.

I think, at the next debate, McCain should go all out monkey crazy on this topic, any reasonable chance he gets. No matter if you are for or against the bailout, the fact is the Dems have more to do with the meltdown than anyone.

And the solution, in the long run is going to hurt us at sometime. We are goinig to feel this, one way or another, so McCain should target the criminals who are responsible.

re: #89 unrealizedviewpoint

It's real.

They're wrong.

re: #94 Irene NYC

His stock has dropped with me. I don't understand his thinking on this.

Those claims made that McCain won't talk about the CRA for racial reasons?

Like he's getting any part of the black vote. What a joke.

re: #94 Irene NYC

Well, I understand CNN, etc. claiming Biden won, but what's with

re: #93 ploome hineni

...............do you suppose banks are deliberately witholding credit

to get this bailout passed?

Nah, they wouldn't do that would they? Not any more than Congress would sit on the "crisis" and do nothing until just before the election - even though the fact that at least one big bank was going to fail was common enough knowledge that someone predicted it nearly three months ago right here.

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

I think, at the next debate, McCain should go all out monkey crazy on this topic, any reasonable chance he gets. No matter if you are for or against the bailout, the fact is the Dems have more to do with the meltdown than anyone.

And the solution, in the long run is going to hurt us at sometime. We are goinig to feel this, one way or another, so McCain should target the criminals who are responsible.

I hope you're right, but I highly doubt McCain will go after the dems at a town-hall style debate. He's bipartisan to a fault if you ask me, there's got to be a line drawn for him, especially when it comes to calling the dems out for fucking out economy.

re: #69 lipsticked pig

Forget about Biden's lies and misstatements (Yeah, I know thart means to forget about most of what came out of his mouth, but I digress). I am more concerned with the TRUE things he said!

He actually said he wants courts to be able to adjust the PRINCIPAL of a mortgage as well as the interest rate.

Holy Crap!

He and 0bama have said they want to protect people from foreclosure before, this is unbelievable.

Let me see if I have this straight. We are in the middle of a major financial crisis brought on by banks losing untold amounts of money because people can't repay the loans they gave (for whatever reason). And 0bama and Biden want to take away the banks ONLY RECOURSE for recovering some of their losses? Sure, people can't repay their loans, but no Mr. banker, you have no way of recovering anything. You can't take the home you technically own and hopefully sell it to a better credit risk to recover some of your losses.

WTF?

And adjusting PRINCIPAL? OK, so I bought a house for 300k with a 0 down loan, and now it's value has dropped, so it's worth only 200k. I can't pay my mortgage, and declare bankruptcy. The nice judge alters mt mortgage to 150k and lowers my interest rate. Great for me. The bank just lost 150K with absolutely NO CHANCE of ever getting it back. That sure will help with the financial mess we've got going on now!

I still can't make my payments, but now I can sell and pocket 50k. Nice. Hey if the market rebounds I just made 150k. Thank you mr. judge. I'm so sure that no judge anywhere will ever see that as an opportunity for corruption.

At least with foreclosure the bank can recover some of the money it loaned out, and if the market rebounds, it can recover all of it.

And don't forget the extreme decrease in revenue to the local and state governments because of the decreasae in property values!

it turns out that Katies Restaurant is closed.... and has been for 15 years.

maybe Joey oughta go back home more often?

re: #94 Irene NYC

I think Krauthammer is spot-on almost all the time. I only say 'almost,' not because I know of any bad positions on his part, but simply because I don't know all his positions.

I think he's spot-on here, too.