So is there a little disinformation being spread by McCain's campaign, or is he sending Palin out for extra maverick points?

re: #1 OldLineTexan

extra maverick points?

EMP. I like it.

Release the Sarahcuda!

Good....Send her, and her husband.

At least somebody in that camp has a little fight in her.

Let her fight! Let her work her magical common touch. If nothing else- make 0bama fight for Michigan.

that makes me feel a bit better now, since i'm planning to give one of her speeches next week...

Turn her loose!

Sarah to McCain: "Well, John, do I have to drag you into the White House?"

The Pros of staying in MI: keeps Obama bogged down on trying to hold a state that should be a D leaner.

The Cons: Spending money on a state that has gone D the last two Presidential cycles and where it doesn't seem likely that McCain will break through.

The pros of leaving MI: spend the money and time where it will do the most good.

The cons of leaving MI: disspirited GOPers wondering where things went wrong.

I think it's an uphill battle to take MI, but the way they announced the pullout was bad - the timing especially.

Palin needs to really get out there, and do unto OH and PA that she wants to do in MI. They have similar demographics and polling suggests a far closer race there. Take those two, and Obama has a huge uphill battle. Palin could certainly connect there - and she's got to go to town after town all over the heartland to get out the vote and improve the outlook among the rank and file who are out of sorts. McCain has to get his game face on and really hit 'em hard. He needs to get angry - and start laying into the Democrats and their fecklessness over the whole bailout and the events that led up to it.

She's the ideal weapon to win over Michiganders.

She can make an appearance in Dearbornistan, in a short skirt.

/bwahahahahaha!

Since every Democrate is running against President Bush this fall, McCain-Palin should run against the Michigan Democratic leadership in that state.

Contrast their policies with Democratic ideas...the high taxes, over regulation, etc.

re: #12 Ward Cleaver

with her trusty bodyguard, Winchester, of course.

John, are you listening? You could learn a thing or two from that woman. Maybe more than your aids can teach you about winning an election. She has a magnetic enthusiasm you could stand to catch.

OT - I see where the market is barfing over the House passing the "bailout".

Methinks the pols got that one dead wrong. All they have succeeded in doing is postponing the hang-over.

Do McCain and Palin have the same blood type? She should give him a transfusion. He's down a couple quarts.

re: #12 Ward Cleaver

She can make an appearance in Dearbornistan, in a short skirt.

/bwahahahahaha!

And a long jakcet?

re: #16 unreconstructed rebel

i take it the bailout is the 'hair of the dog' sort of remedy?

What is the difference in their ages? 30 years?

re: #11 stuiec

She's the ideal weapon to win over Michiganders.

Shoot, she sounds like she could've come from somewhere north of Saginaw with her accent. I have a feeling she and her husband would connect very well.

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

no, a full metal jacket...

Go Sarah! Send her there on her own and let her work those people up. Obama will have to spend time there because she will definitely be effective.

Flip the ticket. I would love to see Sarah in the #1 slot and out from under McCain's thumb and having to stand up for his positions. Let Sarah be Sarah.

We can probably find some folks for her to stay with, save money right there.

That woman could talk me into writing bad checks :)

re: #17 HelloDare

Be nice. He has been in the front line for awhile. She's just in & still has the fire. Just in time, too.

Who do we know in Michigan?

re: #28 FightingBack

calling all great lakes lizards...

Dow is DOWN 150.so much for bailout.

re: #24 engrpat

Flip the ticket. I would love to see Sarah in the #1 slot and out from under McCain's thumb and having to stand up for his positions. Let Sarah be Sarah.

Bad idea. One of the strong points of the McCain/Palin ticket is the Accomplished Actor/Neophyte Understudy aspect of it. Something the Dems got completely backwards.

re: #12 Ward Cleaver

She can make an appearance in Dearbornistan, in a short skirt.

/bwahahahahaha!

Let a flurry of fatwas rain down

Send Sarah and the First Dude into all of the union-strong areas of the state. They're "union folk".

Palin is 44; McCain is 72.

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great song.

Did you know that I am smitten over Gov.Palin.

/go gettem Girl

Why hasn't the GOP taken advantage of Mitt Romney's clout in his home state and asked him to stump for the ticket?

re: #34 J.D.

Palin is 44; McCain is 72.

Send Palin to Michigan, McCain to Florida.

re: #38 FightingBack

divide & conquer?

re: #37 SagamoreGal

Why hasn't the GOP taken advantage of Mitt Romney's clout in his home state and asked him to stump for the ticket?

Hard feelings between Mitt&John?

Sarah should be hitting all the swing states that are culturally sympathetic toward her: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and all the old northwest. I guarantee she'll close the gap there and maybe even flip a few states.

re: #38 FightingBack

Send Palin to Michigan, McCain to Florida.

Got that right!

Sort of OT: I was thrilled this morning. Sarah Palin did a really great job last night in the debate. My high school age daughter, whom I've been training to see how the press is acting as a marketing department for the Dem party, sat down to start her breakfast. She looked at the front page of our local paper and said, "Wow. This paper is really for the democrats, aren't they?" Then she proceeded to start reading out loud snippets (including the headline and first line of the first story on the front page) that she felt sounded like Dem marketing literature. We are a blue state (especially in the public schools) surrounded by a sea of red states, so I'm working to make sure they see this bias (it's actually beyond bias and the Dems should have to report it as in-kind donations) in these breakfast table "news"papers. I'm about to introduce her to lgf, powerline, instapundit, pjmedia, etc. She'll at least be able to spot it before she leave home! She's a good writer; maybe she could be a teen correspondent for pj or something.

Hizballah is a much better community organizer than both Barry and McCain.

And they're pulling for Barry.

No brainer.

Sarah palin is a piece of work. She has been villafied in the most outrageous & gutteral ways. Yet she is enthusiastic, positive & ready to take the fight to the enemy.
McCain needs a wake up call. Let me torture a baseball analogy, McCain is like a starting picther getting lit up. He won't yield the mound to the closer, Sarah Palin.
She is his chance to win.

re: #30 beens21

Dow is DOWN 150.so much for bailout.

DOW was fine until. I had been for this, but folks on the street keep telling me this is not good. Congress is just not listening.

There once was a woman named Palin.
Who worried this country was ailin'.
She held her head high,
And looked to the sky,
And sent her opponents arms flailin'.

You can do it, Sarah! Give 'em what for!

re: #41 Anthony (Los Angeles)

Sarah should be hitting all the swing states that are culturally sympathetic toward her: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and all the old northwest. I guarantee she'll close the gap there and maybe even flip a few states.

And Minnesota!

She is tough and tenacious, in politics that is the right stuff. Get her out to the people in MI., have her make some newsworthy fighting statements and reap free news coverage.

She has the common touch- she connects with people in a way no other candidate can do. Use it- it is our greatest weapon this election. People want a real person with real common sense- show her off, let her work the crowds. She can make a difference.

re: #30 beens21

Dow is DOWN 150.so much for bailout.

Expect that to change as credit starts to loosen up when the implementation begins. The big breath-holding period while we waited for passage/rejection is now over. It's also Friday afternoon. Monday could be interesting. Will we close Monday at 11,000 or 9,000?

Go Sarah & Todd

& didn't McCain say

"This is America, nothing is inevitable here."?

Go !

re: #30 beens21

Dow is DOWN 150.so much for bailout.

Buy the rumor, sell the fact.

re: #47 MrSilverDragon

thanks, mr. dragon -- i was wondering how it was pronounced.

re: #37 SagamoreGal

Why hasn't the GOP taken advantage of Mitt Romney's clout in his home state and asked him to stump for the ticket?

Somebody on here said yesterday that Romney was campaigning for McCain in MI (Romney was there yesterday).

Keep Sarah and Todd in WI, MN, MI, OH and PA, with a couple of stops in the CO/NM/NV area. Have her and Mitt team up in MI, especially.

Mac should team up with Joe Lieberman and hit FL like they're planning on moving there permanently.

Where the hell are Huck and Fred? Both of them should be out there hitting the trail.

And send Mac with Rudy on a nine state tour of all the battlegrounds.

They need to get out there and hit it, HIT IT HARD!

When Barry Goldwater picked Bill Miller of New York to run as his VP everybody scratched their heads. Nobody had heard of him. Goldwater said "I like this guy because he drives Johnson crazy." Sarah does the same thing for all dems - especially the Beast. Give her to Michigan and she will devour their resources. Everywhere she goes she will draw a crowd. Every hand she shakes will be a vote in our column. Perhaps Sarah is our October Surprise.

Outside of metro Detroit, and really the city of Detroit proper, she would really connect. Let her go after the Reagan Democrats in Macomb county and downriver.

Sarah doesn't know the meaning of losing until the game is over. I can totally identify with her - and so can lots of Americans.

Are you taking notes, McCain campaign? More importantly, are you planning on letting her do this? If not, you should.

She is the embodiment of the American spirit.

Go, Sarah, go!

As a Michigander myself, I think my state is solidly in the 'wouldn't it be nice if we won there?' column for the McCain campaign. Alas, I don't think there is much hope from a state that brought us the likes of Micheal Moore...

I want her to be out as much as possible so that the PDS crybabies can just hate her that much more. I want people to get used to seeing the first female President of the United States, because she is it.

Well, we'll always have the Hash Bash.

re: #57 Intrepid

Mitt and Sarah in MI, and Sarah with Rudy in other leaning states. I spoke with a couple of libs who liked Rudy- Sarah and Rudy would draw crowds.

Sarah for President!

Related to finance, CitiGroup lost a mere 25 BILLION in market capitalization today (so far) after Wells Fargo stole Wacovia from them in a deal that is good for everyone (except Citi).

Yes, the markets don't like the bailout. Time for the hangover.

re: #57 Intrepid

i like the way you strategerize...

Totally OT: How would you like a really fast wireless network? 802.11n is 160 megabits per second. But researchers have hit 10 gigabits a second.

That's my kind of network.

re: #51 Sharmuta

She has the common touch- she connects with people in a way no other candidate can do. Use it- it is our greatest weapon this election. People want a real person with real common sense- show her off, let her work the crowds. She can make a difference.

Exactly, her very normalcy seems exotic to the MSM & other Libs.
The country gets it & needs to see more of her. She has charm , likeability, attractiveness & smarts.
Unlike Obama people , we don't think that she's god, but a good choice.

Re this bailout: I remember seeing pieces on TV with people who had owned their houses for a long time - paid off even. Their house "value" had gone up so high that they were being forced to sell and move because they couldn't pay the property tax rates. Think what will happen now with yet another layer of govt subsidy. I can't for the life of me figure out how the Dems see themselves as the party with heart when their actions wipe out any any upward mobility among the poorest.

Mass Killings and Human Rights Violations in Syria

Now you know.

Because G-d forbid the American MSM have an Arab Affairs Desk.

Just don't tell anybody.

re: #33 SagamoreGal

Except the Steelworkers, true to form, said they didn't want Todd Palin being referred to as a Steelworker - he doesn't represent "union".

Wonder if they are returning is dues money?

/

OT
! OBAMA YOUTH VIDEO !
If you think the singing children were creepy.....

=O

This made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
(Back to lurking.)

re: #70 Ben Hur

Nancy Pelosi's visit has done much good apparently.

re: #70 Ben Hur

Mass Killings and Human Rights Violations in Syria

Now you know.

Because G-d forbid the American MSM have an Arab Affairs Desk that doesn't whitewash the whole Middle East.

Just don't tell anybody.

(pardon me while i clarify that...)

re: #67 vxbush

Cool, but you've got to cross the streams!

re: #5 dgax65

At least somebody in that camp has a little fight in her.

And, at least somebody in that camp is really worth fighting for!

re: #64 Sharmuta

Mitt and Sarah in MI, and Sarah with Rudy in other leaning states. I spoke with a couple of libs who liked Rudy- Sarah and Rudy would draw crowds.

Goodness - wouldn't that be a rally you'd sell your granny to attend?

Waiting for Rezco is like wating for Godot, either the sho drops or not, maybe McCain figures if he has that why risk a gaffe or waste money? If he doesn't have that why risk a gaffe or waste money?

re: #35 Ben Hur

Great song.

Of course, I just want to smack the old fart who whines "I heard it all before and it was so much better in when it was original in the 40s"

'Thinking Cap' turns you into a genius

We're doomed.

Funny, I had 2 pollsters call me after the debate, a Seattle TV station who I answered that I thought Palin won and Iflill was fair. The other was the Washington state Democratic Party. I asked them why they weren't calling a cemetery, homeless shelter or prison instead. They were not amused.

McCain's campaign approach is reminding me a little of Bush I, the time he ended up going on thyroid meds after (didn't I read that)... low energy, not calling out the opponents' follies that would help McCain get votes.

re: #69 Sunlight

Re this bailout: I remember seeing pieces on TV with people who had owned their houses for a long time - paid off even. Their house "value" had gone up so high that they were being forced to sell and move because they couldn't pay the property tax rates.

Ours in MN went from about $3,200 to $5,500/year (ouch!) and we jumped the appraiser (almost literally) and he dropped the valuation some. They just went through our house for another appraisal some weeks ago and we are soon awaiting the statement. It better be about 20% down or it's "Jumpin'" time again.

re: #66 Querent

i like the way you strategerize...

I like strategery....

;-)

Maybe the ticket should read "Palin/McCain"...

Flip the ticket around. Is McCain catatonic?

re: #84 Intrepid

here in the Lizard War Room underneath DIA...

re: #79 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I've heard it on the radio and didn't know who the artist was.

Tried to search for it but got NSFW sites.

Now I know.

Yipeee!

re: #80 Ben Hur

Uh, I think I'll pass on surrounding my head with a magnetic field, thanks.

re: #85 davinvalkri

Maybe the ticket should read "Palin/McCain"...

Jinx!

where can I find a good demographic breakdown on Michigan population?...I know obama will take detroit and dearbornistan, ann arbor...but I got to think future VP Palin will play real well out of the main population areas and the Upper Peninsula, do the populations of the areas I mention out weigh the rest of population of the state? I know Detroit metro has got to be a couple of million people? or am I wrong?

Why aren't the Republicans pounding the Democrats about the "idiots: memo? Especially in Colorado?

Wouldn't you have just LOVED to have seen a Romney/Palin ticket in Michigan.

Would that state turn red . . . or at least purple?

/sighing for what cannot be.

Oh well, we have to work with what we have. Come on, John Sidney McCain - fight for your country, like your running mate is doing. She can't carry your water all the time!

re: #88 Ben Hur

I've heard it on the radio and didn't know who the artist was.

Tried to search for it but got NSFW sites.

Now I know.

Yipeee!

Lead singer of Cake looks just like one of the guys I work with. We're always messing with him about it.

Because of the economic crisis it sounds like Mike Bloomberg is going to raise taxes here in NYC... And of course, his big news yesterday that he is seeking a 3rd term and is working it out to overturn Term Limits (voted and approved twice by the people)...

re: #81 JHW

Funny, I had 2 pollsters call me after the debate, a Seattle TV station who I answered that I thought Palin won and Iflill was fair. The other was the Washington state Democratic Party. I asked them why they weren't calling a cemetery, homeless shelter or prison instead. They were not amused.

I'm totally amused!

re: #69 Sunlight

Re this bailout: I remember seeing pieces on TV with people who had owned their houses for a long time - paid off even. Their house "value" had gone up so high that they were being forced to sell and move because they couldn't pay the property tax rates. Think what will happen now with yet another layer of govt subsidy. I can't for the life of me figure out how the Dems see themselves as the party with heart when their actions wipe out any any upward mobility among the poorest.

In fact, many DEMs belong to the "I got mine & I'm going to see to it no one else does" club. What is striking is the clever way they fool the poorer. Look, we raised taxes on the super rich that in fact no rich guy actually pays. He hires clever tax lawyers & accountants to see that he does not.
What bugs me is how their constituents keep buying into it.

I posted this on a previous thread, but I think it's also relevant here....

My favorite moment in yesteday's debate was when she talked to the people telling them not to let this happen to them again. For those caught up in the real estate credit frenzy, she was making the classic self-reliance argument without being belittling. She wants to help you help yourself, and not promising that she could solve your problems for you. It was brilliant!

I know BHO promises to solve everyone's problems for them, and for some people they do not want to hear anything else. But if there are any reachable people in the audience, she reached them.

The Michigan economy has been underperforming for years. Why? Well, there are many reasons, but at least part of the issue are govt. programs that promote government reliance. Letting Palin try to reach those folks may work...maybe I'm just dreaming, but it's a happy dream so leave me be.

Hell Yeah, McCain can leave the ring Michigan, but tag in Sarah to clean up and attack the Demwho control the state and major cities. Never Give Up Never Surrender!

This entertainer is a throw back. He's clearly talented, and I've never seen anyone so laid back and at ease on stage. It's like that's where he belongs.

Gentle On My Mind, by John Hartford.

re: #92 lifeofthemind

"idiots: memo?

That's a new one on me...

re: #95 tfc3rid

Because of the economic crisis it sounds like Mike Bloomberg is going to raise taxes here in NYC...

I wish our business could force our customers to pay more when there is a shortfall. Flippin' Gov-ments. CUT SPENDING BLOOMIN' BERG. We do!

re: #100 Archimedes

John Hartford has been a throwback for a long long time.

re: #48 stuiec

And Minnesota!

You betcha, ya.

re: #98 DeafDog

My husband paused the TV when she said that...asked if I wanted to take a moment to cheer before she started back up...that was great

OT:
this is an interesting little blog (not mine, no pimping here)

JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

re: #80 Ben Hur

'Thinking Cap' turns you into a genius

We're doomed.

How do you find this stuff?

re: #95 tfc3rid

Because of the economic crisis it sounds like Mike Bloomberg is going to raise taxes here in NYC... And of course, his big news yesterday that he is seeking a 3rd term and is working it out to overturn Term Limits (voted and approved twice by the people)...

Lovely, just lovely, going against the will of the people. But he'll get re-elected.

/term limits- schmerm limits.

Is anybody else sick of the AP saying Biden won the debate? What the hell are they smoking?

re: #104 Honorary Yooper

You betcha, ya.

It's a Yooper! Ya! Hey, der! "It's da second week of deer camp..." You gotst a couch dat burps?

re: #64 Sharmuta
They would be a wonderfuly team.

wonderful* damn it

re: #57 Intrepid

Keep Sarah and Todd in WI, MN, MI, OH and PA, with a couple of stops in the CO/NM/NV area. Have her and Mitt team up in MI, especially.

Mac should team up with Joe Lieberman and hit FL like they're planning on moving there permanently.

Where the hell are Huck and Fred? Both of them should be out there hitting the trail.

And send Mac with Rudy on a nine state tour of all the battlegrounds.

They need to get out there and hit it, HIT IT HARD!

Huckabee's doing his stupid TV show, playing the gi-tar.

re: #72 CareyOnly

OT
! OBAMA YOUTH VIDEO !
If you think the singing children were creepy.....
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

=O

This made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
(Back to lurking.)

Perhaps , I can best express my devotion to Obama through Interprtive Dance.
Now if he had the Jessie White Tumblers! (inside Chicago stuff)

re: #98 DeafDog

I posted this on a previous thread, but I think it's also relevant here....

My favorite moment in yesteday's debate was when she talked to the people telling them not to let this happen to them again. For those caught up in the real estate credit frenzy, she was making the classic self-reliance argument without being belittling. She wants to help you help yourself, and not promising that she could solve your problems for you. It was brilliant!

I know BHO promises to solve everyone's problems for them, and for some people they do not want to hear anything else. But if there are any reachable people in the audience, she reached them.

The Michigan economy has been underperforming for years. Why? Well, there are many reasons, but at least part of the issue are govt. programs that promote government reliance. Letting Palin try to reach those folks may work...maybe I'm just dreaming, but it's a happy dream so leave me be.

that research guy on FNC said this went off the charts for both Rs and Ds in his focus group.

re: #95 tfc3rid

You're right on all counts. He's looking to impose some form of toll or tax for people coming into Manhattan (son of congestion pricing) to pay for transit upkeep; MTA considers yet more fare hikes; property tax breaks are going off the table and hikes are considered; and a commuter tax is being proposed (anyone from outside NYC that works in NYC would be taxed).

At a time when Wall Street is looking for reasons to cut costs, he's going to send companies elsewhere - like into Jersey City or out of existence altogether.

And don't get me started on Bloomberg and term limits. /wouldn't want to see me go on a rant.

re: #106 newsjunkie_ky

The headline doesn't match the story; it seems to be saying that the judge will be granting a request to dismiss the suit.

re: #109 conservativeChick

Is anybody else sick of the AP saying Biden won the debate? What the hell are they smoking?

they're in the tank for obama so deep there's no pulling out. but you got to look between the lines, so to speak, sure they say biden won, but future VP Palin stole the show. who's photo is all over the news this morning? yup, Sarah Palin.

re: #115 newsjunkie_ky

that research guy on FNC said this went off the charts for both Rs and Ds in his focus group.

Frank Luntz! And he's the man - Don't you forget his name! cheers

re: #109 conservativeChick

Is anybody else sick of the AP saying Biden won the debate? What the hell are they smoking?

Doobies laced with powdered Obama Kool-Aid.

re: #101 joncelli

That's a new one on me...

Just Google "Democrats Colorado Idiots" and you'll understand.

re: #65 Max Darkside

Sarah for President!

Related to finance, CitiGroup lost a mere 25 BILLION in market capitalization today (so far) after Wells Fargo stole Wacovia from them in a deal that is good for everyone (except Citi).

Yes, the markets don't like the bailout. Time for the hangover.

They're arming up for a fight now. CitiGroup v. Wells Fargo.

CitiGroup Lawyers are streaming from the ramparts, screaming battle cries of "Violation of Exclusivity, Terminate and Don't Proceed, and Tortious Interference."

Wells Fargo, under command of Chairman Richard Kovacevich, has lined up their shield wall, bristling with pikes and axes, and is prepared to receive the charge, chanting "$7 a share, Solid Deal!"

This could be interesting.

re: #119 Brigman

Frank Luntz! And he's the man - Don't you forget his name! cheers

But I wanted a Bud Light!

/all those signs last night

re: #82 Sunlight

McCain's campaign approach is reminding me a little of Bush I, the time he ended up going on thyroid meds after (didn't I read that)... low energy, not calling out the opponents' follies that would help McCain get votes.

One of the shared elemental qualities of McCain and Bush is their bone-deep stubbornness; as politicians, it's served both of them for better and for worse.

re: #108 x-wing

Lovely, just lovely, going against the will of the people. But he'll get re-elected.

/term limits- schmerm limits.

He will--- easily... He'll get 65% of the vote...

re: #103 Ojoe

John Hartford has been a throwback for a long long time.

He's what I'd call an entertainer. Cool on stage.

re: #124 Ward Cleaver

But I wanted a Bud Light!

/all those signs last night

It was broadcast from Anheuser-Busch headquarters.

WHY, I have no idea. But it does explain the decor.

Gotta go. Have fun, y'all.

re: #123 CyanSnowHawk

They're arming up for a fight now. CitiGroup v. Wells Fargo.

CitiGroup Lawyers are streaming from the ramparts, screaming battle cries of "Violation of Exclusivity, Terminate and Don't Proceed, and Tortious Interference."

Wells Fargo, under command of Chairman Richard Kovacevich, has lined up their shield wall, bristling with pikes and axes, and is prepared to receive the charge, chanting "$7 a share, Solid Deal!"

This could be interesting.

"Today we fight!"

/letter openers and staplers at the ready

re: #119 Brigman

Frank Luntz! And he's the man - Don't you forget his name! cheers

He did have a better panel of people last night than he did during the last debate.

/he redeemed himself with me.

re: #122 lifeofthemind

Bwahaha! Yes, insulting your own constituency makes sense. What is it with the people in these advocacy groups that they're so freaking condescending?

I nearly threw up in my mouth:
U.N. Anti-Blasphemy Resolution

The non-binding resolution on “Combating the Defamation of Religion” is intended to curtail speech that offends religion -- particularly Islam.

Pakistan and the Organization of the Islamic Conference introduced the measure to the U.N. Human Rights Council in 1999. It was amended to include religions other than Islam, and it has passed every year since.

In 2005, Yemen successfully brought a similar resolution before the General Assembly. Now the 192-nation Assembly is set to vote on it again.

re: #128 OldLineTexan

It was broadcast from Anheuser-Busch headquarters.

WHY, I have no idea. But it does explain the decor.

Uh-oh, conspiacy theory. Bud H.Q. -and Macs' wifes' fortune is tied to what?

/cue twilight zone music.

re: #130 Ward Cleaver

"Today we fight!"

/letter openers and staplers at the ready

And You! (Points at galloping granny) Put the kettle on!

Now that the bailout bill is a done deal (for good or ill), Mac can take a few days for debate prep before the Townhall in Nashville next Tuesday. Considering the fact that he had no real prep time for the first one, he came out with a tie, and half the debate was about economics.

While Obama had a couple days prep time in FL prior to having his lazy ass hauled into Washington by the Pres, he still couldn't come out ahead in a subject that is supposed to be a dem winner.

And town halls are McCain's home court, while Obama stumbles like a fool.

re: #130 Ward Cleaver

"/letter openers and staplers at the ready

I... i... i believe you have my stapler....

/Milton Waddams (Office Space)

re: #91 Spider Mensch

where can I find a good demographic breakdown on Michigan population?...I know obama will take detroit and dearbornistan, ann arbor...but I got to think future VP Palin will play real well out of the main population areas and the Upper Peninsula, do the populations of the areas I mention out weigh the rest of population of the state? I know Detroit metro has got to be a couple of million people? or am I wrong?

Well, the city of Detroit itself is mostly Black, and Dearborn has some Arabs, but they are a minority, and and even smaller minority of them are muslims. They're vocal, but small. Oakland County is mostly white collar, middle and upper middle class with pockets of blue collar. Macomb County is mostly blue collar with some white collar. Livonia and Downriver is similar to Macomb County.

Leaving the Detroit area, you have Ann Arbor, which is full of Democrats. Lansing is a mix, even with Michigan State next door. Grand Rapids is rather conservative, and religious (Palin would be a major hit here), as well as the west coast from St Joseph to Luddington. Flint has a lot of blue collar union folks (UAW mostly). The Tri-Cities (Saginaw, Bay City, and Midland) are more removed from Detroit and Flint, and have a more conservative population. Up North is more conservative, and they have a bunch of hunters who would hate BHO taking away their guns.

Crossing the Straits of Mackinac, the eastern Upper Peninsula is mostly rural with some blue collar folks in Sault Ste Marie. The western Upper Peninsula is also rural with a mix of blue and white collar folks in Marquette and Houghton. Even though both have sizable universities, they aren't exactly bastions of liberalism, especially Houghton.

I'd give Governor Palin a better than equal chance of getting the base in the state out to vote and making it at least cloase, if not winning the state. Remember, Michigan went for Reagan in 80 and 84, and GHW Bush in 88. They also had a pretty popular Republican governor before Granholm. Engler won three terms as governor before he had to step down due to term limits.

re: #133 Celtic Templar

I nearly threw up in my mouth:
U.N. Anti-Blasphemy Resolution

Not so hot on that free speech thing, are they?

Lost another $20K in the market today. Thanks Barney Bailout!

re: #130 Ward Cleaver

"Today we fight!"

/letter openers and staplers at the ready

Look! On the Horizon! Its the Crimson Permanent Assurance!

re: #92 lifeofthemind

Why aren't the Republicans pounding the Democrats about the "idiots: memo? Especially in Colorado?

Thats one of the things that pisses me off about McCain and his campaign, the Democrats shovel ammo to him and he refuses to use it. That memo should be used to beat Obama's head in in Colorado, yet thats the last we'll hear of it. Damn! If a competent person was running the campaign, instead of the "Bob Dole Crew" nothing would go unused. Why do we get a pistol like Sarah Palin, and then waste every opportunity to put Obama away. I could vaporlock, it frustrates me so. Defeat, snatched from the toothless gums of victory, at this rate. It should not even be close! NOT EVEN CLOSE! Damn you McCain.

re: #106 newsjunkie_ky

Interesting that the motion to dismiss was denied.

Woo Hoo home early for the weekend!

Gal's got fire in the belly. I doubt she would have won the primary, but right now it's like she's the top of the ticket. She's a much better campaigner.

re: #133 Celtic Templar

I nearly threw up in my mouth:
U.N. Anti-Blasphemy Resolution

The UN is about as useful as tick sperm (not to bad-mouth tick sperm)

re: #110 Max Darkside

It's a Yooper! Ya! Hey, der! "It's da second week of deer camp..." You gotst a couch dat burps?

A couch? Dat burps?

re: #107 DeafDog

How do you find this stuff?

I'm a magnet.

re: #114 opnion

In matching outfits.
I wish I could understand what they are saying...

Well, someone at the NRCC is naming names as being at fault for inaction or worse in the toxic paper crisis. About.damn.time.

re: #140 Molon Labe

Lost another $20K in the market today. Thanks Barney Bailout!

I refuse to look at my upcoming 401k statement.

/spitting mad now, blood pressure can't take much more.

re: #128 OldLineTexan

It was broadcast from Anheuser-Busch headquarters.

WHY, I have no idea. But it does explain the decor.

They are a major sponsor of the debate.

The problem for NYC is who will be a viable successor to Bloomberg? Can you imagine what would happen to NYC if, say, Mark Greene became mayor? Uggg. There' a bunch of lefty lefty Dems and no one else with any name recognition that I can think of (which is the last thing NYC needs).

re: #133 Celtic Templar

Look for the whole gamut of UN oppression right here in the US of A if the Beast wins. Every knee shall bend to the white flag of surrender and the blue flag of World Citizenship. That's something worth vomiting about.

re: #151 opnion

They are a major sponsor of the debate.

And Budweiser is the official beer of Joe Six-Pack.

re: #72 CareyOnly

You're so right. That's creepier than the choir. For some reason it reminds me of Hizbollah...

re: #155 undhimmicratic

You're so right. That's creepier than the choir. For some reason it reminds me of Hizbollah...

Just wait until they're on the street blocking your path to the polling station.

re: #148 CareyOnly

In matching outfits.
I wish I could understand what they are saying...

It is probably every bit as doofus as the choreography.

re: #72 CareyOnly

OT
! OBAMA YOUTH VIDEO !
If you think the singing children were creepy.....
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

=O

This made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
(Back to lurking.)

*EXTRA EXTRA*

I have seen that creepy video linked on many sites critical of Obama, and they all seem to make the same mistake. The mistake being that they think these para-militant teens are chanting "Alpha, Omega", implying that they think Obama is the beginning and the end (i.e. God).

What they are in fact chanting is "Omega, Alpha", to signify and end to the "old" way of doing things (the way this country has traditionally been governed) and the beginning of a "new" way of doing things (Obama's socialist vision for the future direction of this country).

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

re: #138 Honorary Yooper

Well, the city of Detroit itself is mostly Black, and Dearborn has some Arabs, but they are a minority, and and even smaller minority of them are muslims. They're vocal, but small. Oakland County is mostly white collar, middle and upper middle class with pockets of blue collar. Macomb County is mostly blue collar with some white collar. Livonia and Downriver is similar to Macomb County.

Leaving the Detroit area, you have Ann Arbor, which is full of Democrats. Lansing is a mix, even with Michigan State next door. Grand Rapids is rather conservative, and religious (Palin would be a major hit here), as well as the west coast from St Joseph to Luddington. Flint has a lot of blue collar union folks (UAW mostly). The Tri-Cities (Saginaw, Bay City, and Midland) are more removed from Detroit and Flint, and have a more conservative population. Up North is more conservative, and they have a bunch of hunters who would hate BHO taking away their guns.

Crossing the Straits of Mackinac, the eastern Upper Peninsula is mostly rural with some blue collar folks in Sault Ste Marie. The western Upper Peninsula is also rural with a mix of blue and white collar folks in Marquette and Houghton. Even though both have sizable universities, they aren't exactly bastions of liberalism, especially Houghton.

I'd give Governor Palin a better than equal chance of getting the base in the state out to vote and making it at least cloase, if not winning the state. Remember, Michigan went for Reagan in 80 and 84, and GHW Bush in 88. They also had a pretty popular Republican governor before Granholm. Engler won three terms as governor before he had to step down due to term limits.

thanks for the info Yoop! I'm wondering if this all is a little rope a dope with Mccain/Palin as far as Michigan goes. "yeh, we're bailing on Michigan"..then..Sarah Palin to the rescue! then again, I think too much sometimes. and not enough at others.

re: #140 Molon Labe

Lost another $20K in the market today. Thanks Barney Bailout!

He'll be celebrating tonight.

/yuck

re: #154 CyanSnowHawk

And Budweiser is the official beer of Joe Six-Pack.

Right, just sittin around our formica kitchen tables with Jane Sixpack.

re: #156 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Just wait until they're on the street blocking your path to the polling station.

That's when Rule 308 gets invoked.

re: #149 lawhawk

Excellent. That should be a McCain ad, with the addition of Obama's being on the take to the tune of $126,000.

re: #156 Who Watches the Watchmen?

No kidding!
Thankfully I'm in Jerusalem...I'll be voting by mail!

re: #149 lawhawk

Well, someone at the NRCC is naming names as being at fault for inaction or worse in the toxic paper crisis. About.damn.time.

Like the music.

re: #152 Irene NYC

The problem for NYC is who will be a viable successor to Bloomberg? Can you imagine what would happen to NYC if, say, Mark Greene became mayor? Uggg. There' a bunch of lefty lefty Dems and no one else with any name recognition that I can think of (which is the last thing NYC needs).

Yeah, Bloomy is their best bet, but it still pisses me off that they are by- passing the voters.

Mark Greene is one thing , BUT ,a Gov.Weiner bwwwwwaaaah

/heh, I said weiner

I can't blame Senator McCain for wanting to keep Sarah around him. Who wouldn't want to bask in the glow she casts?

But the time has come to split up and tag team the electorate. McCain should pair up with folks that will play up in the states he visits, likewise with Sarah. We need to pull in Mitt, Rudy, Fred and Lieberman. Hell- get Donald Trump too.

But Sarah has the qualities Americans are starving for- realness and common sense. Let her fight. She's the weapon we've been waiting for.

re: #91 Spider Mensch

Honorary Yooper already gave you a reply but in the last election --Bush won almost all the counties outside of the Detroit Metro area.

I think there is a good chance that McCain-Palin could win Michigan because as I understand it, the Detroit area has LOST a lot of population in the last four years.

From a Yooper......Though it is predominately Democrat locally up here --over 60% voted for Bush so they are not averse to crossing over on the national level.

re: #8 J.D.

Turn her loose!

Sarah to John

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

Just curious...how do you know that's what they mean by Alpha and Omega?

re: #118 Spider Mensch

Good point. I trying to get my dad to stop reading the AP. I keep telling him that they been drinking the liberal Kool-Aid for years. I'm still trying.

re: #152 Irene NYC

The problem for NYC is who will be a viable successor to Bloomberg? Can you imagine what would happen to NYC if, say, Mark Greene became mayor? Uggg. There' a bunch of lefty lefty Dems and no one else with any name recognition that I can think of (which is the last thing NYC needs).

Good afternoon. You are correct but it is not as bad in the City as it seems to be in the rest of the state. Pataki scrubbed NY clean of political talent. It is like reading what happens to a civilization in the two generations after Islam takes power. There is no memory, no bench to call on. In the city there are enough people, underemployed or retiring now, from law, business, academe and media that some competent conservatives should turn up. Come to think about it, I'm available.

re: #170 undhimmicratic

Just curious...how do you know that's what they mean by Alpha and Omega?

What who means? The blogs/pundits that criticize the vid? Or someone else?

I heard Mark Steyn yesterday say that Sarah Palin should avoid any interviews with all big media outlets and rather she should visit, and do interviews with, small time local TV stations, every day, in all of the swing states...And I couldn't agree more.

Go straight to the people through the small time media, local TV stations and local radio. That's where she belongs. That's where she can do what she does best.

So now we all see the difference between a senator and governor - a governor fights ahead and wants to lead, a senator wants to concede, and collaborate.

Were those McCain's words? Fight with me? I willing to fight but not if he hires Andrew Cuomo and Al Gore to advise him.

John, may I call you JOhn? Now is NOT the time to collaborate!

I think Governor Palin could do extremely well in Michigan.
As pointed out, they have had popular GOP governors.

Not the least being Mitt Romney's father.

I don't think it is a "lost cause" at all.

re: #177 buzzsawmonkey

That is no improvement. It is a chant of, by, and for revolutionary shock troops--for whom Obama is the Leader.

Exactly my point. Thank you for clarifying it better than I had.

In fact, I think the implications of "Omega, Alpha" are far worse than those of "Alpha, Omega".

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd always assumed that these were a bunch of Omega Psi Phis doing a step show routine. Back in the dark ages, the Omegas used to love their camo pants and the grisly Omega brands that they'd burn into each other. I remember that a lot of their chants were head scratchers.

re: #168 Nancy

Then you have to factor in the fact that Obama is a Chicago politician. That does not fly well in most of the state, let alone most of the Midwest outside Cook County.

I think that may be some of the resistance to Obama in Indiana, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.

re: #123 CyanSnowHawk

They're arming up for a fight now. CitiGroup v. Wells Fargo.

CitiGroup Lawyers are streaming from the ramparts, screaming battle cries of "Violation of Exclusivity, Terminate and Don't Proceed, and Tortious Interference."

Wells Fargo, under command of Chairman Richard Kovacevich, has lined up their shield wall, bristling with pikes and axes, and is prepared to receive the charge, chanting "$7 a share, Solid Deal!"

This could be interesting.

Like this? The Crimson Permanent Assurance

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was simply asking how you know that they don't mean Alpha/Omega as signifying deity or some other pseudo-Christian idea. I went back & listened and it sounds to me like they do say Alpha first. But in any case I just wondered if you'd read something about this or had additional information.

One thing I notice around these parts in Downriver, which is a transplanted hilljack redneck democrat stronghold is a near complete lack of Obama signs on front lawns. Where are they all? None at all for blocks. Maybe a couple here or there on the side of the road (where they aren't supposed to be placed). Four years ago there were Kerry/Edward signs all over the place. I don't think there is as much enthusiasm for Obama as the media would have you believe.

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

Quite agree. If she teams up with Romney --in the midwest it would reinforce his efforts.

I found myself repeating, yes...yes....good...good...yesssss, while Sarah Palin was hammering multiple points last night.

My wife told me to knock-it-off...she said I sounded like Meg Ryan.

I can't say I understand the tactic of announcing you're pulling out of a state. At a bare minimum, keep your mouth shut and let your opponent continue to waste dollars there.

It also sends an unpleasant message to loyalists in that state: "Sorry, but we're not interested in your support."

And what does it say about how you will conduct yourself once in office? "Israel? Well, that's a lost cause; none of our allies are offering any support, so let's just bail and hope we do better somewhere else."

I just don't see how this is a good plan.

I have to admit....

Neo-con Zionist gringo women are indeed extremely hot.

re: #181 Honorary Yooper

Agree --up until a week ago --Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin were all neutral. They have shifted to "leaning Obama" in the last week but that would not necessarily hold true if --as others have suggested --Palin teams up with Romney and the both hit those states.

re: #182 semper gumbi

Like this? The Crimson Permanent Assurance

Glad I wasn't the only person to think of that (see 141)

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I totally want to go out on a rope line and see if I can score a hug from Sarah. She is just so darned cute.

"Gosh darnit, I want to go out there and connect with those people!"

Peggy Noonan was right about her having "jumpers", I'm a grown man and I think I'd be jumping a bit if she was around. What's wrong with me? Are we that starved for real babes in this country? Are women role models that scarce? I'm just happy to see a woman on TV because she's real and HAPPY. What a revelation.

re: #184 mich-again

One thing I notice around these parts in Downriver, which is a transplanted hilljack redneck democrat stronghold is a near complete lack of Obama signs on front lawns. Where are they all? None at all for blocks. Maybe a couple here or there on the side of the road (where they aren't supposed to be placed). Four years ago there were Kerry/Edward signs all over the place. I don't think there is as much enthusiasm for Obama as the media would have you believe.

I'm in a blue state, working class neighborhood and finally saw a few 0bama signs the other day. However- I've seen more McCain/Palin signs for weeks now, and it surprised me in this neighborhood.

re: #181 Honorary Yooper

Even without resistence to Obama --Sarah Palin would be right at home in Michigan (outside of Detroit), Wisconsin and Minnesota!

She could relate with ease and they to her.

re: #187 SixDegrees

I can't say I understand the tactic of announcing you're pulling out of a state.

Agreed. Unless he is trying to put the Obamaheads to sleep thinking they can stay home on election day because its in the bag.

Dude, seriously. Send her and Todd here right before hunting season opens. She sounds like a Yooper (I'm married to one, BTW), and they would absolutely connect w/ everyone not living in Detroit/ Ann Arbor.

Maybe not enough votes to win the state, but it should make O'Bummer a little nervous at least. She can even crash at my place...;-)

re: #183 undhimmicratic

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was simply asking how you know that they don't mean Alpha/Omega as signifying deity or some other pseudo-Christian idea. I went back & listened and it sounds to me like they do say Alpha first. But in any case I just wondered if you'd read something about this or had additional information.

Ah, ok, thank you for clarifying. If you watch the very beginning, at the point where the Obama Youth stop and stand in a line, as they chant the one at the head of the line stops chanting, then the next stops, then the next, and so on.

When it is only the last guy in line you can hear him say "Omega, Alpha". You may have to turn the volume up because the last guy is not very loud, but the chant clearly ends on "Alpha" not "Omega".

Also, I read the text part of the original YouTube video before it was taken down. The text said that the chant was "Omega, Alpha", intended to signify an end to the "old way" of doing things and the beginning of a "new (read: Obama's) way" of doing things.

Hope that helps.

re: #183 undhimmicratic

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was simply asking how you know that they don't mean Alpha/Omega as signifying deity or some other pseudo-Christian idea. I went back & listened and it sounds to me like they do say Alpha first. But in any case I just wondered if you'd read something about this or had additional information.

Listen closely to the clip. They all end on "Alpha" when they stop chanting. We hear "Omega" first because we are trained to listen for "Alpha" and then "Omega". These kids are saying exactly the opposite.

It still a creepy video with some very fascist undertones.

re: #196 misfit138

LOL..........I am a yooper and opening day of hunting season is a school HOLIDAY.

Unfortunately, there are not enough people in the entire U.P. to make a difference so few would waste their time up here. Efforts would be better spent downstate --below the bridge where there is more population.

re: #149 lawhawk

Well, someone at the NRCC is naming names as being at fault for inaction or worse in the toxic paper crisis. About.damn.time.

OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark!

re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes, thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to figure out. And you're right I'm relying on a laptop speaker at the moment so I couldn't hear it all that well. It is very disturbing and as Buzzsawmonkey points out it is reminiscent of Nation/Fruit of Islam--no surprise there I guess.

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

Not in the least bit comforting. Knowing the context of this "Omega, Alpha" thing, coupled with the whole "Citizen Corps" with the same size and funding of the military comment of Obama's, I can not imagine how any right-thinking person would not get their butt's to the polls on election day and vote against him.

Hell, the R-ticket could be running a one-eyed monkey for POTUS, with a broken mop bucket as the VP pick, and I'd still be voting for them over Obama.

re: #199 Nancy

LOL..........I am a yooper and opening day of hunting season is a school HOLIDAY.

Unfortunately, there are not enough people in the entire U.P. to make a difference so few would waste their time up here. Efforts would be better spent downstate --below the bridge where there is more population.

Heh. When I was at Tech, we were changing from quaters to semesters. One of the big debates was over the amount of time that we should have off for Thanksgiving. Needless to say, school is out the entire week, and not just for Thanksgiving. A heck of a lot of deer hunters were in the faculty, staff, and students. Shoot, I even had a roommate who kept his rifle behind the dresser in the dorm room.

re: #193 Sharmuta

I have noticed the same thing here in the deep blue state of CT. Are the O's supporters afraid to acknowledge it?

re: #205 GeeWiz

I have noticed the same thing here in the deep blue state of CT. Are the O's supporters afraid to acknowledge it?

Maybe. They may even be skewing polls to make sure they look like they are ahead.

I am thinking that he announces he is officially pulling the campaign out of Michigan but that doesn't necessarily mean that all campaigning in the state will cease.

re: #207 taxfreekiller

You got it Ms tfk.

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

The Nation of Islam built itself on recruiting gangbangers from prison, and the streets. That is the basis of its paramilitary "Fruit of Islam" bodyguards.

The thought of an Obama civilian "compulsory volunteer service corps" with somewhat more military discipline molding the same raw material in the service of furthering his domestic policies is...not comforting.

That's one of the scarier parts of what he's proposed so far, or at least actually said out loud.

re: #206 Honorary Yooper

Maybe. They may even be skewing polls to make sure they look like they are ahead.

I believe the polls are skewered as well. I think the McCain/Palin ticket is doing much better than the polls show.

Lets engage in a thought experiment. If we are correct in our belief that the election results destroy the polling, will we experience the wrath of a mis-led electorate resulting in chaos in our cities?

re: #202 undhimmicratic

Glad I could help. In the given context, "Omega, Alpha" is so much more unsettling than the (incorrectly assumed) "Alpha, Omega".

re: #204 Honorary Yooper

Our colors are just starting to turn. I would say less than 10% but the bright reds and yellows are scattered throughout the green!

No snow yet --ha ha.........

re: #72 CareyOnly

OT
! OBAMA YOUTH VIDEO !
If you think the singing children were creepy.....
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

=O

This made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
(Back to lurking.)

Was that filmed in a juvenile detention facility, or perhaps Palestinian summer camp?

re: #174 Ringo the Gringo

I heard Mark Steyn yesterday say that Sarah Palin should avoid any interviews with all big media outlets and rather she should visit, and do interviews with, small time local TV stations, every day, in all of the swing states...And I couldn't agree more.

Go straight to the people through the small time media, local TV stations and local radio. That's where she belongs. That's where she can do what she does best.

great idea! that WOULD be effective.

re: #207 taxfreekiller

Ms. tfk I would like to say something you already know. You got a good one, don't let him go!

re: #214 doppelganglander

Maybe it's the Youth Group at Rev. Wright's church!

re: #217 undhimmicratic

Maybe it's the Youth Group at Rev. Wright's church!

Nope. It's a publically funded school in Kansas City, Missouri.

Is anyone watching Carl Cameron interview Sarah Palin on FOX? I'm actually listening on the radio, not watching but I am laughing my head off. She has made Katie Couric look like a total fool----I hope people see this interview.

re: #218 Honorary Yooper

Obama is a very, VERY dangerous man.

re: #180 Pullus Iulius

I'd always assumed that these were a bunch of Omega Psi Phis doing a step show routine. Back in the dark ages, the Omegas used to love their camo pants and the grisly Omega brands that they'd burn into each other. I remember that a lot of their chants were head scratchers.

I worked with an OPP pledge and I remember when he got branded. He wasn't a happy camper.

#108 Slumbering Behemoth

Also, I read the text part of the original YouTube video before it was taken down. The text said that the chant was "Omega, Alpha", intended to signify an end to the "old way" of doing things and the beginning of a "new (read: Obama's) way" of doing things.

This whole worship Obama thing is insidious. From the very beginning, this huckster has used religious iconography throughout his campaign. Any references to Alpha & Omega regardless of the order they're in is a reference to Jesus in the Book of Revelation. Remember Obama and all his halo pics? The guy has a dangerous messianic complex and he's serious about being worshiped, being adored, about being The One - as the San Francisco Chronicle has crowned him.

This guy is bad news for our republic.

re: #155 undhimmicratic

I know! It freaked me out.
This is the first time I've seen it.

Me @211
skewered= skewed
PIMF

Whatever happened to basketball?

re: #225 buzzsawmonkey

I guess this is the handiwork--and success story--of "Community Organizers."

re: #222 ladycatnip

#108 Slumbering Behemoth

This whole worship Obama thing is insidious. From the very beginning, this huckster has used religious iconography throughout his campaign. Any references to Alpha & Omega regardless of the order they're in is a reference to Jesus in the Book of Revelation. Remember Obama and all his halo pics? The guy has a dangerous messianic complex and he's serious about being worshiped, being adored, about being The One - as the San Francisco Chronicle has crowned him.

This guy is bad news for our republic.

I get where you're coming from, and pretty much agree with you except for the part I bolded above.

In the context of the video "Omega, Alpha" is most certainly not a reference to Jesus in any way, shape, or form. It is definitely meant to signify the end (Omega) of the America we know, and the beginning (Alpha) of a New America built upon the socialist ideology of Obama and his fellow travelers.

It is really up to the 527s now. Considering her amount of national experience Sarah Palin has been magnificent. Mc Cain has suffered from Senator-itis, did not attack Obama strongly enough in the debate. Put election over ego John.

Romney/Palin, imagine what that could have been.

Shout outs to Barney Frank and Charlie Shumer. Thanks for ruining our economy guys, via Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Repubs are punks if they can't get candidates against these two stiffs the next time.

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

Shoot, she sounds like she could've come from somewhere north of Saginaw with her accent. I have a feeling she and her husband would connect very well.

Bay City?  Tawas?   Traverse City?  Heck, her accent always reminds me of Canucks ... I could see her in Sault Ste. Marie ...

}:)     [ ... soon to be back there myself ... ]

re: #214 doppelganglander

Was that filmed in a juvenile detention facility, or perhaps Palestinian summer camp?

I found it at a PUMA site and this is in comments about it.
video was taken at:

URBAN COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP ACADEMY
1524 PASEO BLVD
18th & Vine District, Kansas City, MO

Re:#24 -"flip the ticket"

Yes, yes and then replace McCain

re: #229 offendi

It is really up to the 527s now. Considering her amount of national experience Sarah Palin has been magnificent. Mc Cain has suffered from Senator-itis, did not attack Obama strongly enough in the debate. Put election over ego John.

Romney/Palin, imagine what that could have been.

Shout outs to Barney Frank and Charlie Shumer. Thanks for ruining our economy guys, via Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Repubs are punks if they can't get candidates against these two stiffs the next time.

some say he couldn't attack until the "bailout" was passed. But, now the gloves are off, thanks to Sarah and McCain better come out in the debate on Tues. and name those names and get into the Acorn stuff or a thousand Sarah Palin's won't help.
And she needs to go to Michigan. If it's not a matter of money, then why not?

I here by nominate Todd Palin for membership into the Most Prestigious Karl Rove Magnificent Bastard Society.

Is there a second?

and hereby, too.

From the The Corner: McCain's Michigan Co-Chairman to Palin: Don't Leave Michigan!.

"Governor Palin,
I saw your comments on Fox News today and described in the Detroit Free Press article below. I wholeheartedly agree with you that the decision by the McCain campaign to pull out of Michigan was the wrong decision.
...
PS: I look forward to talking to you and Senator McCain about this.
PSS: We have MANY requests for Todd to come to Michigan."

Todd Mitchell Palin (born September 6, 1964)[3] is an American oil field production operator and the current First Gentleman (self-styled "First Dude")[4] of Alaska. He is the husband of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the 2008 Vice Presidential nominee of the Republican Party.

[edit] Champion snowmobile racer

In 2008, 400 miles (640 km) from defending his Tesoro Iron Dog championship, he was injured and broke his arm[17] when he was thrown 70 feet[18] from his machine.[19] He was sent to the hospital but managed to finish in fourth place.[20] This race is the world's longest[21] snowmobile race which traces the path of the Iditarod race with an extra journey of several hundred miles to Fairbanks added. He first competed in the race in 1993 and has been the champion four times.[13] His racing teamate is Scott Davis.[22] He has previously raced with Dusty Van Meter in the race, and they were co-champions in 2000 and 2002.[23]

Hombre resistente

Todd Palin

Sounds like this to me -

PALIN to McCAIN = THATCHER to BUSH 41 - "Don't go 'wobbly!'"

-S-

she is a fighter

i like her more now

re: #236 gregg

From the The Corner: McCain's Michigan Co-Chairman to Palin: Don't Leave Michigan!.

"Governor Palin,
I saw your comments on Fox News today and described in the Detroit Free Press article below. I wholeheartedly agree with you that the decision by the McCain campaign to pull out of Michigan was the wrong decision.
...
PS: I look forward to talking to you and Senator McCain about this.
PSS: We have MANY requests for Todd to come to Michigan."

gregg -

The "workout" bill contains loan guarantees to the "Big 3" - Republicans helped by votes and no filibuster. Put in SARAH, TODD, and MITT - let's roll.

-S-

Dump mccain plz :)

Palin is simply not qualified for national office. Should the need arise, she doesn't have the stuff, at least at this point in time, to run the country. She may be quick and tough -- I don't think so, but others in the Lizard community think so -- but she simply hasn't been steeped in the issues long enough, and I seriously doubt her ability to become so.

By putting her on the ticket over vastly more qualified men and women alike, McCain acted irresponsibly, and, in my view (as with his positions on coercive interogation and Guantanomo, to name a few) has put our country at risk.

I'm not an Obama/Biden supporter, but an experienced Democrat ticket may be better than a ticket where the top guy is unpredictable (war with Russia over Ossetia anyone?) and the next in line is too unaware to know that she's out of her league.

Dirty Harry said it best when he said: "A [woman] has to know [her] limitations." Palin doesn't know hers.

re: #243 ticonderoga

ROTFLMAO!

#228 Slumbering Behemoth

In the context of the video "Omega, Alpha" is most certainly not a reference to Jesus in any way, shape, or form. It is definitely meant to signify the end (Omega) of the America we know, and the beginning (Alpha) of a New America built upon the socialist ideology of Obama and his fellow travelers.

They can say all day long that it means something different or they've reversed it to mean what they want it to mean, but the fact that he would use something that is a religious reference underscores my point. He could've used Latin as he did on his faux presidential seal. Or even better, German, since he's rallying Obama Youth. If there weren't so many other religious inferences in his campaign I'd probably let this go.

re: #30 beens21

Dow is DOWN 150.so much for bailout.

Dow is at about 10,325. 150/10325 = .0145 or 1.5% I can't see this is significant.

re: #67 vxbush

Totally OT: How would you like a really fast wireless network? 802.11n is 160 megabits per second. But researchers have hit 10 gigabits a second.

That's my kind of network.

What's really neat is how they use off-the-shelf technology in an elegant way, combining two relatively low frequency signals to produce an ultra-high frequency signal!

OH MY GOD! She's finally on the attack! I love how she's giving it right back too 'em. THANK YOU SARAH!

re: #243 ticonderoga

Biggest load of bull I've seen in a long time. Thanks for the good laugh.

re: #245 ladycatnip

#228 Slumbering Behemoth

They can say all day long that it means something different or they've reversed it to mean what they want it to mean, but the fact that he would use something that is a religious reference underscores my point. He could've used Latin as he did on his faux presidential seal. Or even better, German, since he's rallying Obama Youth. If there weren't so many other religious inferences in his campaign I'd probably let this go.

But they (not "he") used Greek, as many fraternal orders do. Sorry, but it is not a religious reference. It is a reference to the Greek alphabet.

Omega: the end of the Greek alphabet, the end of the America we know.
Alpha: the beginning of the Greek alphabet, the beginning of a New (Socialist?) America under Obama.

QUESTION OF THE DAY. CAN WE STAND FOUR YEARS OF OBAMA JUST TO FINALLY GET RID OF MCCAIN, ONCE AND FOR ALL, AND LET SARAH RUN IN 2012 TO BEAT THE PANTS OFF OBAMA AFTER HE SHOWS HIS TRUE COLORS? This is something I'm really pondering. On one hand it scrares me to death because I'm really afraid of what Obama will do to this country but on the other...maybe its just what we need in order get our country back on even keel...an internal cold-civil war of sorts. McCain has done some really dumb things and even though I know he's a good man and patriot, something just doesn't set well with me. On the other hand, Sarah has more in her than 10 John McCains and it's not because she's goodlooking. I could close my eyes and listen to her and the sound of her voice and the words behind them are much prettier than the rest of her. McCain has brought a world of hurt upon conservatives in general and Republicans in particular. This is NOT a time to compromise but there is no way in hell John's going to change his ways. I tempted to say don't vote for him and be done with it. Then, I get scared again. This has got to be the most fucked up election I've ever seen in the 32 years I've been voting.

re: #193 Sharmuta

I live right next to a University (liberal, of course) in a very liberal town in Arizona and I am pleasantly mystified that there are very few Obama bumper stickers or lawn signs...it's weird! There are even less McCain stickers, but that was to be expected. Did see one NOBAMA bumper sticker!

re: #251 ShanghaiRay

We may just find out in 30+ days.

Now consider this. Obama's Supreme Court judge picks. Those folks last a lot longer than 4 years. Does that help the McCain pill go down a little easier for ya?

Don't give up on Michigan! Sarah's husband and a whole team of his buddies should go and actively campaign all over that state. Those down-to-earth guys would connect with the people of that state who are also at heart salt-of-the-earth folks.

Don't give up anywhere, and dig into your pockets to help our side win this election! It's the most important one I can remember.

Clinton carried Michigan twice, Gore and Kerry carried it too. Hell, Dukakis was less than 300K votes from carrying the state. I understand wanting to play in every traditional swing state, but as much as I think McCain shouldn't have been as overt about it, how can you reasonably expect him to piss away money in a state he probably can't win?

When she's done with Michigan, send her to Caulifornia!
Isn’t it nice to see someone that can, “get it done?”
I wonder if Sarah has a sister that is available? *sigh*