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Open | Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:00:00 pm PDT

You can’t step twice into the same river.

Heraclitus

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1 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:00:37pm

OJ is Guilty!

2 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:01:08pm

But the same accursed river can get me wet over and over.

3 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:02:17pm

re: #1 pat

OJ is Guilty!

All twelve.

Buhbye!

4 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:02:17pm

Charles, continue to do what you think is right. We expect nothing less!

5 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:02:44pm

Wait -- I thought it was the old monk on Kung Fu who came up with that river parable. My illusions are shattered!

6 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:03:15pm

The meaning of that quote is going over my head, I must say.

7 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:03:37pm

Thirteen years to the day since he got away with murder. How weird is that?

8 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:03:38pm

re: #1 pat

OJ is Guilty!

He has long since overstayed his welcome. The sooner he's out of the public eye and into some sort of Punishment Zone - Hell, Jail, Limbo, whatever - the better off we all are.

Bye OJ, fuck off, stay off my TV, see you in hell.

9 winston06  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:04:15pm

hello every one

10 suboptimal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:04:42pm

re: #5 zombie

Wait -- I thought it was the old monk on Kung Fu who came up with that river parable. My illusions are shattered!

I thought the old guy enjoyed goading people into stealing pebbles or something.

11 Moe Katz  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:05:08pm

I hope everyone has read my links to this article concerning different kinds of conservatism in America, Britain and continental Europe. It's very important to understanding the Eurofascism threads and, besides, it's going to be on the final exam.

12 Moe Katz  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:05:40pm

re: #9 winston06

hello every one

Hiya Winston. Good to see ya.

13 Outrider  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:05:40pm

Cool site for facts if anyone hasn't been there before.

14 cliffster  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:05:47pm

re: #8 Pawn of the Oppressor

He has long since overstayed his welcome. The sooner he's out of the public eye and into some sort of Punishment Zone - Hell, Jail, Limbo, whatever - the better off we all are.

Bye OJ, fuck off, stay off my TV, see you in hell.

After his original trial I thought to myself, you know maybe he actually is innocent. I even argued with people about it.

That was stupid.

15 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:05:55pm

You can always make any statement seem wise and condescending, merely by appending the word "Grasshopper" to the end:

"You can’t step twice into the same river, Grasshopper."

"Would you like fries with that, Grasshopper?"

"Twenty bucks for a quickle, forty bucks for around-the-world, Grasshopper."

"You can't go into a Dunkin' Donuts or a 7-11 without hearing an Indian accent, Grasshopper."

16 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:06:02pm

Add this to the list of outrageous Biden gaffes: The stupid statement that we spend more on Iraqi military operations in 3 weeks than we have spent on the entirety of the Afghan conflict

17 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:06:15pm

There are 2 wonderful families in tears tonight because of the reported verdict. And I am just as happy.

18 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:07:21pm

Good evening-morning lizzards

19 Moe Katz  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:08:09pm

I predicted this would happen to OJ back in about '95. I said then he would do something that would get him locked up; only it took longer than I thought. Partly a desire for punishment, I think.

20 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:08:17pm

Oh yeah, OJ is guilty! He implemented his "sting" to get back his "shit", and it backfired on him in a most spectacular way.

And he will receive no mercy from the judge in this case - she is a hard-liner as far as sentencing is concerned.

Lesson to be learned: One cannot assemble a group of gun-toting goons to accompany one to retrieve what one "feels" is one's "shit", and then claim innocence when one is hauled before a court of law.

Oh Happy Day!

21 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:09:49pm

Is there an OJ verdict.?.been in cave all day

22 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:09:52pm

re: #20 Intrepid

Oh yeah, OJ is guilty! He implemented his "sting" to get back his "shit", and it backfired on him in a most spectacular way.

And he will receive no mercy from the judge in this case - she is a hard-liner as far as sentencing is concerned.

Lesson to be learned: One cannot assemble a group of gun-toting goons to accompany one to retrieve what one "feels" is one's "shit", and then claim innocence when one is hauled before a court of law.

Oh Happy Day!

Obama's first pardon.

/

23 Outrider  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:10:22pm
24 cliffster  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:10:28pm

re: #15 zombie

You can always make any statement seem wise and condescending, merely by appending the word "Grasshopper" to the end:

"You can’t step twice into the same river, Grasshopper."

"Would you like fries with that, Grasshopper?"

"Twenty bucks for a quickle, forty bucks for around-the-world, Grasshopper."

"You can't go into a Dunkin' Donuts or a 7-11 without hearing an Indian accent, Grasshopper."

"Sorry I just stepped on you and crushed your exoskeleton, Grasshopper"

25 Son Of The Godfather  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:10:39pm

Well, OJ, it's 13 years late, but rot in hell.

26 Outrider  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:11:21pm

re: #24 cliffster

"Sorry I just stepped on you and crushed your exoskeleton, Grasshopper"

They make great bait for Bass fishing too.

27 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:12:10pm

re: #20 Intrepid

Oh yeah, OJ is guilty! He implemented his "sting" to get back his "shit", and it backfired on him in a most spectacular way.

And he will receive no mercy from the judge in this case - she is a hard-liner as far as sentencing is concerned.

Lesson to be learned: One cannot assemble a group of gun-toting goons to accompany one to retrieve what one "feels" is one's "shit", and then claim innocence when one is hauled before a court of law.

Oh Happy Day!

Justice delayed.

28 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:12:11pm

re: #22 RTLM

Can't - it's a state verdict. If he's elected POTUS, he can only pardon Federal cases.

29 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:12:19pm

And the second mouse gets the cheese

30 ggt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:12:20pm

In case you didn't know, Bruddah Iz does wonders for those suffering from migraines.

31 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:12:43pm

re: #25 Son Of The Godfather

Well, OJ, it's 13 years late, but rot in hell.

Trust me, he'll be in the cushiest "cell" in the cushiest low-security prison.

The number of "privileges" even the most impoverished hardened criminals get is sickening to me.

32 tommoon  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:12:58pm

The smirk is finally off his face.

33 suboptimal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:13:07pm

A few years from now...

Satan: Ahh, Mr. Simpson! We've been expecting you for some time now.

OJ: Am I dead?

Satan: Oh, yes, quite dead. But here, let me show you where you'll be staying. You'll be locked inside this little room where demons will violate you day and night for, approximately, eternity.

OJ: Sounds a lot like prison.

Satan: Well, yes, except the food's better.

34 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:13:26pm

I've come to harsh conclusion about the gaffe/lie machine known as Joe Biden. If they are simply gaffes he is too stupid to be trusted with any executive office. If they are lies he is similarly disqualified. Personally, I think the man is mentally ill and cannot stop himself.

35 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:13:45pm

re: #20 Intrepid

I heard just the kidnapping charge carries 15 to life - and the sentences have to be served consecutively. He's 61. I'm no good at math, but...

36 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:14:11pm

re: #28 Intrepid

Can't - it's a state verdict. If he's elected POTUS, he can only pardon Federal cases.

That won't stop him. Heck he may have lawyers on it now since Floriduh might be close.

37 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:14:15pm
38 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:14:22pm

I think his Heisman should be tweeked to show the hand coming behind in a guarded motion

39 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:15:03pm

I see,,well i guess Hertz wont be running that OJ comercial again.
Good to see some justice in my life.

40 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:15:24pm

re: #31 zombie

Trust me, he'll be in the cushiest "cell" in the cushiest low-security prison.

The number of "privileges" even the most impoverished hardened criminals get is sickening to me.

OK, how do I ding it twice? Z deserves it tonight.

41 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:15:31pm

Mandatory 10. Kidnapping.

42 Outrider  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:16:17pm

Hmmm Must be different than Georgia prisons. It would take a lot of "privileges" to make up for being in there.

43 ggt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:16:18pm

I'm tired, confused and my head hurts (although a bit less than it did).

Night all!

weet dreams.

44 cliffster  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:16:33pm

re: #31 zombie

Trust me, he'll be in the cushiest "cell" in the cushiest low-security prison.

The number of "privileges" even the most impoverished hardened criminals get is sickening to me.

Look on the bright side. He'll be somebody's bitch. Maybe more than one somebody.

45 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:16:37pm

re: #37 ploome hineni

I sincerely hope this brings some form of comfort to Fred Goldman, a real mensch.

46 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:16:40pm

BTW: 13 years TO THE DAY of his acquittal of/in the 1994 murders.

47 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:17:10pm

re: #38 KZnextzone

I think his Heisman should be tweeked to show the hand coming behind in a guarded motion

With a knife in the free hand, maybe...

48 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:17:12pm

re: #35 capitalist piglet

I heard just the kidnapping charge carries 15 to life - and the sentences have to be served consecutively. He's 61. I'm no good at math, but...

They will need to keep him on life support just to reach the minimum sentences.

49 Crusty  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:17:51pm

re: #15 zombie

You can always make any statement seem wise and condescending, merely by appending the word "Grasshopper" to the end:

In my pants also works quite well.

"Would you like fries with that in my pants?"

"Twenty bucks for a quickle, forty bucks for around-the-world, in my pants."

"You can't go into a Dunkin' Donuts or a 7-11 without hearing an Indian accent in my pants."

"We are the ones we have been waiting for in my pants."

50 tommoon  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:17:59pm

It is somewhat sad. How, now will he find the real killer of his wife. sar/tag

51 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:18:25pm

re: #39 Oldasdirt

I see,,well i guess Hertz wont be running that OJ comercial again.
Good to see some justice in my life.

Back then we used to joke he was running from the law. Shame on us for being racist.

52 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:18:28pm

For all the "stays in Las Vegas" commercials..Las Vegas is no place to F around...the law is harsh when broken.

53 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:18:41pm

rivers...monks.........grasshoppers.........OJ.... .......kharma...........

The world is alright.................

/Smile. It's all an illusion.

54 cliffster  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:19:29pm

re: #52 KZnextzone

For all the "stays in Las Vegas" commercials..Las Vegas is no place to F around...the law is harsh when broken.

You say that as though speaking from experience...

55 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:19:49pm

re: #44 cliffster

Look on the bright side. He'll be somebody's bitch. Maybe more than one somebody.

Are you kidding? OJ is a hero to these people. He'll be a superstar in jail.

56 Meremortal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:19:58pm

"If I Was Guilty."

*spit*

57 soccerdad  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:20:09pm

re: #8 Pawn of the Oppressor

see you in hell.

RE: OJ

Pawn ....you are not going there are you?

58 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:20:11pm

No experience saw it on COPS no tolerance for weed....

59 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:20:24pm

re: #50 tommoon

It is somewhat sad. How, now will he find the real killer of his wife. sar/tag

Chances are pretty good the killer will be in the same prison. Funny how life has those strange coincidences.....

60 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:21:17pm

GGT - here's the skinny:

Back in 1995 when the civil courts in CA awarded a 33 million dollar judgement to the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, it was made clear that all possessions of OJ were to be forfeit to them. OJ quickly divvied out his sports memerabelia (sp?) collection to friends and also to his agent at the time, Mike Gilbert, for services rendered.

Mike Gilbert eventually sold the articles OJ gave him (in payment for services rendered), to others. The ones who had them at the time of the "incident" were Al Beardsley and Bruce Fremong.

A year ago, in mid September, OJ went to Vegas to attend the wedding of a friend of his. While he was there, a smarmy small time dealer connected OJ with the Beardsley/Fremong group, with the understanding to the latter group that OJ wanted to buy back "his stuff".

Instead, OJ gathered a group of thugs about him, showed up at the pre-arranged hotel room, and proceeded to take the stuff they had in the room. The articles were originally OJ Simpson's things, but he had given them to Mike Gilbert as payment for services rendered as OJ's agent.

When two thugs brought out guns, it became a whole different game. That's what brought the big charges of armed robbery and kidnapping.

61 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:21:43pm

Been to lots of Bachelor parties and excursions, people assume laws are universal and don't regionally "adjust".

62 gmsc  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:21:59pm

BREAKING NEWS:

OJ Simpson and CJ Stewart guilty on all charges!

Both have been remanded into custody without bail until sentencing.

63 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:22:51pm

OJ takes it all the way to the end zone!

64 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:22:57pm

Las Vegas seems to have good people in it,,so why is Harry Reid in power there?

65 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:23:15pm

re: #62 gmsc

BREAKING NEWS:

OJ Simpson and CJ Stewart guilty on all charges!

Both have been remanded into custody without bail until sentencing.


You must be a slow typist.

66 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:23:18pm

re: #62 gmsc

BREAKING NEWS:

OJ Simpson and CJ Stewart guilty on all charges!

Both have been remanded into custody without bail until sentencing.

Yes, we know.

67 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:23:40pm

re: #64 Oldasdirt

Las Vegas seems to have good people in it,,so why is Harry Reid in power there?

Too busy staring at the boobs. It's distracting.

68 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:24:05pm

sorry, OT, saw this at OJ news page.
Agnostics and atheists sue President Bush over National Day of Prayer, citing a 'hostile environment for nonbelievers'

oh puleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!

69 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:24:54pm

re: #67 CyanSnowHawk

Too busy staring at the boobs. It's distracting.

OK, I get it, people spend all day looking at boobs, so they have no problem sending an ugly one to Washington.

70 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:25:48pm

re: #69 JeremyR

OK, I get it, people spend all day looking at boobs, so they have no problem sending an ugly one to Washington.

I was thinking they like boobs, that's why the keep re-electing one.

71 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:25:55pm

re: #69 JeremyR

OK, I get it, people spend all day looking at boobs, so they have no problem sending an ugly one to Washington.

Got that ugly cuss out of NV, at least some of the time, didn't it?

72 soccerdad[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:25:58pm
73 Rancher  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:26:27pm

O.J. will appeal.

/Really?

The other guy that got nailed, I assume he is the only one that didn't turn on O.J.?

74 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:26:31pm

re: #70 gop_patriot

I was thinking they like boobs, that's why the keep re-electing one.

More a case of voted off the island, I think.

75 Meremortal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:26:33pm

re: #63 sngnsgt

OJ takes it all the way to the end zone!


*

And soon:

OJ takes it all the way to in the end zone!

76 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:26:38pm

re: #69 JeremyR

OK, I get it, people spend all day looking at boobs, so they have no problem sending an ugly one to Washington.

Is not Reid more like a twit?

77 NEPAConservative  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:26:41pm

NoBama Parody
[Link: theamericansentinel.com...]

78 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:26:46pm

O.J.'s had 13 years of freedom (to the day) since his acquittal in Ron and Nicole's murders.

79 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:26:53pm

Wow! And all he had to do was continue checking the DNA of every caddy in Florida, on his search for the "real Killer". I guess a dog always returns to its own vomit...

80 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:27:00pm

re: #72 soccerdad

Oh, that's bad.

81 JeremyR[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:27:53pm
82 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:27:55pm

re: #73 Rancher

O.J. will appeal.

/Really?

The other guy that got nailed, I assume he is the only one that didn't turn on O.J.?

I don't think OJ appeals to anyone anymore.

Except maybe those guys that turned him on.

83 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:28:57pm

re: #78 RTLM

O.J.'s had 13 years of undeserved freedom (to the day) since his acquittal in Ron and Nicole's murders.

Corrected.

84 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:29:03pm

His legal fund must be smaller than Hillary's campaign account!

85 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:29:05pm

My main beef with OJ is not so much that he murdered two people in cold blood but rather that he is partly responsible for the original incarnation of "Trutherism," by starring in that godawful film "Capricorn One," which legitimized anti-American conspiracy theories.

86 pat[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:29:29pm
87 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:29:38pm

re: #75 Meremortal

LOL! That's more like it!

88 tommoon  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:29:41pm

soccerdad

Please, this is not not needed.

89 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:30:49pm

re: #73 Rancher

O.J. will appeal.

/Really?

The other guy that got nailed, I assume he is the only one that didn't turn on O.J.?

Yeah, the others turned on him and flipped like rats. Did him in.

He can appeal, but I'll guarantee you he won't get anywhere. The judge in this case - Judge Jackie Glass - is a stellar jurist who has an excellent record. She knows her stuff, and she kept OJ's lawyers in check during the trial.

Her rulings are usually sound, and OJ won't really have any avenues of appeal from her court.

Heh. He's sunk.

90 Outrider  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:31:02pm

So for breakfast the judge will have OJ on the rocks?

91 Rancher  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:31:03pm

re: #75 Meremortal

Unfortunately he won't be anybody's bitch. He will be Admin Seg, segregated for his own protection. Fortunately seg is considered punishment, here in NM it means locked up by yourself for 23 hours with one hour of recreation, also in your own cage.

92 Moe Katz[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:31:06pm
93 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:31:10pm

Hey Capricorn One Had the "Mom's on the roof" joke told by Sam Watterson... That's a classic!

94 freedomplow[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:31:43pm
95 JeremyR[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:32:06pm
96 KATALEENA  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:32:25pm

Hi lizards...my very first time posting...I'm a bit intimidated by all the smart people here! I am so impressed with LGF and I have on many occasions found comfort here!

Been freaking out lately with the slip in the polls for McCain so have decided to do something about it and have volunteered at the local McCain HQ...and it felt great. Many, many first time volunteers there.
Last Saturday the line was consistently out the door; people coming to make calls, get yard signs, bumper stickers, etc.

Getting ready to see Palin tomorrow in Carson, Ca...! I AM SO EXCITED!

97 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:32:39pm

OJ was not convicted of Nicole and Rons murders, but if he did do it, after 13 years to the day they finally get justice.

98 Killer Tomato  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:32:41pm

re: #72 soccerdad

I logged on just to ding that down.

99 Rancher  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:32:57pm

re: #93 KZnextzone

Hey Capricorn One Had the "Mom's on the roof" joke told by Sam Watterson... That's a classic!


Tell it.

100 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:33:11pm

re: #89 Intrepid

Yeah, the others turned on him and flipped like rats. Did him in.

He can appeal, but I'll guarantee you he won't get anywhere. The judge in this case - Judge Jackie Glass - is a stellar jurist who has an excellent record. She knows her stuff, and she kept OJ's lawyers in check during the trial.

Her rulings are usually sound, and OJ won't really have any avenues of appeal from her court.

Heh. He's sunk.

I noted that when she read the verdicts, she nodded approval!

101 rawmuse  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:33:29pm

I won a lot of money 13 years ago betting with others that OJ would not be convicted. I was a cynical bastard even then. The day of the slow speed chase a bunch of us wagered and put up the dough. I was the only one betting on an acquittal. Then there was that enormous interval of time. I forgot about the wager. Finally the verdict was read and my buddy called me up, "aren't you going to come get your money?".

102 LeePro  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:33:53pm

Here's a more detailed version (FWIW)

Jury finds O.J. Simpson guilty on all charges

Here's a memorable pic!

13 years to the day........... heh!

G'nite {good Lizards}

103 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:34:01pm

Talking about a vacation spot in Mexico is racist?

104 Moe Katz  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:34:31pm

Charles, you deleted the post quoting the joke but not the original with the joke. It's #72

105 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:35:02pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Good on you, you're walking the walk. And don't be shy about posting.

106 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:35:35pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Hi lizards...my very first time posting...I'm a bit intimidated by all the smart people here! I am so impressed with LGF and I have on many occasions found comfort here!

Been freaking out lately with the slip in the polls for McCain so have decided to do something about it and have volunteered at the local McCain HQ...and it felt great. Many, many first time volunteers there.
Last Saturday the line was consistently out the door; people coming to make calls, get yard signs, bumper stickers, etc.

Getting ready to see Palin tomorrow in Carson, Ca...! I AM SO EXCITED!

Good on ya! Volunteer, volunteer, volunteer. See, all you doomsayers: Kataleena's in the supposedly "lost" state of California and she's not giving up on it. And neither am I. Go!

107 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:35:49pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Hi lizards...my very first time posting...I'm a bit intimidated by all the smart people here! I am so impressed with LGF and I have on many occasions found comfort here!

Been freaking out lately with the slip in the polls for McCain so have decided to do something about it and have volunteered at the local McCain HQ...and it felt great. Many, many first time volunteers there.
Last Saturday the line was consistently out the door; people coming to make calls, get yard signs, bumper stickers, etc.

Getting ready to see Palin tomorrow in Carson, Ca...! I AM SO EXCITED!

Welcome, Kataleena! Keep volunteering there and keep making a difference!

Don't watch the polls - they're skewed because of an over sampling of democrats.

But fight like we're 5 points behind! Every little bit helps!

108 Meremortal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:36:09pm

re: #91 Rancher

I know, I know, but don't spoil my fun for the moment.

109 Rancher  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:36:17pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Hi lizards...my very first time posting...I'm a bit intimidated by all the smart people here!

Well you've already demonstrated your intelligence!

110 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:36:32pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Keep up the good work!

111 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:36:34pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Good to see you posting! :)

I hope that you'll post a report on going to see Palin, maybe take some pictures. That would be cool.

112 Killer Tomato  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:36:43pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Welcome aboard, Kataleena!
Yes, it's always best to DO something rather than sitting around panicking. And thanks for the report from the front lines.
Have fun tomorrow!

113 IslandLibertarian[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:37:00pm
114 freedomplow  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:37:39pm

Someone deleted my comment. How cute.

115 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:37:51pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Welcome, Kataleena - have a great time tomorrow! We expect a full report, you know. ; )

116 Outrider  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:37:59pm

re: #106 zombie

Good on ya! Volunteer, volunteer, volunteer. See, all you doomsayers: Kataleena's in the supposedly "lost" state of California and she's not giving up on it. And neither am I. Go!

Got to admit, I got it a lot easier selling McCain/Palin here in Coastal Georgia than you do in California.

Don't let the bastards wear you down.

117 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:38:18pm

Here you go Rancher:

something like this :

A guy is out of town and he calls his brother to see how things are going. He asks about the house and all is fine, he asks about the cat, and his brother says " the cat died".
He responds " You don't give that kind of information like that, you say : The cat was on the roof, we called the fire department, and they responded we all tried and the cat died" That's how you relate information like that!
and then he asked : "How's Mom"?
responce "well Mom was on the roof....

118 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:38:18pm

Hello KATALEENA

:)

119 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:38:24pm

re: #28 Intrepid

Can't - it's a state verdict. If he's elected POTUS, he can only pardon Federal cases.

that's what *you* think....... %-)

120 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:38:45pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

Welcome

121 Meremortal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:38:53pm

re: #96 KATALEENA

My wife was at a Town Hall meeting with McCain this week and she had a blast. I bet you have a blast tomorrow too. Welcome to LGF.

122 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:39:22pm

re: #114 freedomplow

Keep it up. Find out just how it feels to have an account deleted why don't you.

123 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:39:24pm

re: #114 freedomplow

So, you're the type that enters a friends house and tells them the carpet looks like shit?

124 freedomplow  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:39:33pm

Because everyone knows I say fascists things.

125 Rancher  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:40:17pm

re: #108 Meremortal

I know, I know, but don't spoil my fun for the moment.

Hey, if the image brings you pleasure who am I to judge?

/Sorry, couldn't resist.

126 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:40:24pm

sorry about the slow typing I'm a hunt and pecker

127 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:40:44pm

Wow, deletions concerning deletions. Even those such as I who found this joke offensive.

128 Moe Katz  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:41:05pm

re: #126 KZnextzone

sorry about the slow typing I'm a hunt and pecker

I can understand you being a pecker but what do you mean about being a hunt?

129 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:41:30pm

Im ready for the October surprise.Wonder if it will be Rezko rolling over on his ol buddie Obama?

130 freedomplow  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:41:50pm

re: #123 MrPaulRevere

So, you're the type that enters a friends house and tells them the carpet looks like shit?

Can you give an example of that? Ever!

131 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:41:54pm

re: #128 Moe Katz

I can understand you being a pecker but what do you mean about being a hunt?

Jabba the Hunt?

132 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:42:15pm

I'm glad that justice has been served concerning OJ, but my heart goes out to Nicole's children, who have been through hell repeatedly and still don't have their mother. May God comfort and guide them.

133 Moe Katz  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:42:23pm

re: #127 pat

Wow, deletions concerning deletions. Even those such as I who found this joke offensive.

Yeah, but you quoted it didn't you? Can't have this stuff on the pages for search engines and hostile types to find.

134 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:42:27pm

/O.J. will be Obama's first pardon.

135 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:42:51pm

re: #127 pat

Wow, deletions concerning deletions. Even those such as I who found this joke offensive.

I'm puzzled on mine that was deleted. my previous one to that should have been because I quoted instead of replying.

136 Meremortal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:43:16pm

re: #125 Rancher

Hey, if the image brings you pleasure who am I to judge?

/Sorry, couldn't resist.

--

Oh, that was low, Rancher. Good, but low.

137 Outrider  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:43:21pm

re: #127 pat

Wow, deletions concerning deletions. Even those such as I who found this joke offensive.

You quoted the joke? I got deleted once because I quoted the remark that got deleted.

138 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:43:30pm

If you didn't like that joke you probably won't like the rest....

139 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:43:35pm

re: #134 RTLM

/O.J. will be Obama's first pardon.

Except of course, he would not be able to pardon State charges in NV as President.

140 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:43:57pm

re: #132 Sharmuta

I have no idea how these kids are or think. They are adults, or close to it now, but the tabloid headlines indicate that they think daddy is a hero.

141 LeePro  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:44:01pm

re: #126 KZnextzone

sorry about the slow typing I'm a hunt and pecker

I admire someone who comes right out and admits he's a pecker.








/ reallygoing to bed now

;D

142 Meremortal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:44:35pm

re: #127 pat

Wow, deletions concerning deletions. Even those such as I who found this joke offensive.

Hint: Never quote an offensive post (if you did).

143 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:44:53pm

re: #133 Moe Katz

Yeah, but you quoted it didn't you? Can't have this stuff on the pages for search engines and hostile types to find.

you left out "pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious."

144 suboptimal  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:44:56pm

re: #134 RTLM

/O.J. will be Obama's first pardon.

Second. First will be the congress critter with $90K in the freezer.

145 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:45:08pm

re: #135 JeremyR

Maybe it's a new Monitor Lizard and they don't quite have the hang of it yet. LOL

/the original offending quote still stands... cleanup on aisle 72

146 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:45:11pm
147 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:45:16pm

re: #129 Oldasdirt

Im ready for the October surprise.Wonder if it will be Rezko rolling over on his ol buddie Obama?

I read some very interesting links here earlier tonight; there is compelling case to be made that the ghost writer of "Dreams of My Father" (or whatever Obama's "memoir" is called) was none other than Bill Ayers. Someone who does such things for a living compared the book to writings of Ayers', and the similarities are pretty stunning, actually.

Interesting, because the NYT had a piece out suggesting that Obama barely knows Ayers at all - just met him a couple of times, basically. I don't think anyone buys that, but it sure looks like they want to get ahead of this one.

148 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:45:39pm

re: #141 LeePro

Night, Lee. :) Sleep well!

149 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:45:47pm

re: #137 Outrider

Of course I did not repeat the joke. I said I do not particularly like such humor and followed worth a bit of sarcasm regarding Mr Biden's frequent racial references.

150 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:46:14pm

re: #139 CyanSnowHawk

Except of course, he would not be able to pardon State charges in NV as President.

A certain resident from the town of Searchlight, NV will paint the trail.

151 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:46:44pm

Worth=with

152 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:46:53pm

re: #140 pat

I have no idea how these kids are or think. They are adults, or close to it now, but the tabloid headlines indicate that they think daddy is a hero.

As a child, it is hard to think of your father as a criminal, especially when he is there to tell you otherwise while he is doing the things a father is supposed to do. They're in for some disappointment when they grow up, if they believe it even then.

153 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:47:34pm

Is there a list of all of Biden's lies with actual "proof" regarding each one? The one with the 14 lies was good but didn't offer enough proof for people who are too dimwitted to know otherwise.

154 LeePro  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:47:39pm

re: #148 gop_patriot

{G}

155 freedomplow  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:47:45pm

re: #122 CyanSnowHawk

Keep it up. Find out just how it feels to have an account deleted why don't you.

OK, because my history deserves such a response?

No where can you justify that comment.

156 tommoon  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:48:31pm

Pat,

This problem arises from time to time. Lizards need to know we are all judged by what we post. It is a common courtesy, we should have manners. We are not them.

157 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:48:59pm

re: #140 pat

I have no idea how these kids are or think. They are adults, or close to it now, but the tabloid headlines indicate that they think daddy is a hero.

All the more reason to pray for them.

158 thelongblogger  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:49:04pm

re: #145 gop_patriot


/the original offending quote still stands... cleanup on aisle 72

If you refresh instead of just hitting "new comments", you will see that comment 72 has been deleted to all new viewers.

/Can't step into the same river twice.

159 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:49:37pm

Don't you think that the whole reason the annointed One hasn't had town hall meetings is because this will all be exposed? He has nothing of substance to fall back on.

160 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:49:54pm

re: #149 pat

Of course I did not repeat the joke. I said I do not particularly like such humor and followed worth a bit of sarcasm regarding Mr Biden's frequent racial references.

At first glance, it seemed to me to be problematic. On a closer read, I got the gist of it. (If it was the post I am thinking of, if not, I'm full of it in this comment.) May have been a precautionary delete.

161 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:50:03pm

I have to say I'm stunned by the amount of media bias in this campaign. Its so obvious they cannot plausibly deny it. This is journalistic malpractice of the highest order. One day this will be given an in-depth examination and be remembered as one the saddest episodes in the storied history of the First Amendment.

162 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:50:09pm

re: #158 thelongblogger

Thanks, that's weird though. Hitting new comments got rid of all the others that were deleted.

163 Rancher  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:50:21pm

re: #117 KZnextzone

We monitored inmate's telephones. One night STIU (Security Threat Investagative Unit) records an inmate, convicted of another charge but suspected of murder, talking to his Dad. Suspected, but no body. He tells he's Dad, "bastard is buried in Monticito pasture." Police go and dig up two square miles of real estate and find nothing.

Next week the same inmate asks his Dad, "Did Monticito get plowed?"

164 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:51:00pm

re: #156 tommoon

Right.

165 Moe Katz  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:51:42pm

re: #163 Rancher

We monitored inmate's telephones. One night STIU (Security Threat Investagative Unit) records an inmate, convicted of another charge but suspected of murder, talking to his Dad. Suspected, but no body. He tells he's Dad, "bastard is buried in Monticito pasture." Police go and dig up two square miles of real estate and find nothing.

Next week the same inmate asks his Dad, "Did Monticito get plowed?"

LOL!

166 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:51:54pm

and the governemnt finally works for us Ranch!

167 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:52:34pm

re: #157 Sharmuta

Indeed. And they are physically gorgeous , like mom.

168 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:52:35pm

re: #132 Sharmuta

I'm glad that justice has been served concerning OJ, but my heart goes out to Nicole's children, who have been through hell repeatedly and still don't have their mother. May God comfort and guide them.

Absolutely. Sydney and Justin are adults now, and their father is now going to be in prison for a very long time. I hope the Brown family will be able to enfold them. Not sure about the family dynamics there, though.

169 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:52:38pm

damn this infernal keyboard! government!

170 cliffster  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:53:28pm

re: #163 Rancher

We monitored inmate's telephones. One night STIU (Security Threat Investagative Unit) records an inmate, convicted of another charge but suspected of murder, talking to his Dad. Suspected, but no body. He tells he's Dad, "bastard is buried in Monticito pasture." Police go and dig up two square miles of real estate and find nothing.

Next week the same inmate asks his Dad, "Did Monticito get plowed?"

hahahahahaha ha ha

heh heh hehehe

I don't get it

171 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:53:29pm

re: #155 freedomplow

OK, because my history deserves such a response?

No where can you justify that comment.

Your history had nothing to do with it. Your deleted comment was practically telling Charles what not to post. Your sarcastic response could very well have gotten you the stick. I don't know Charles mood after the rather spirited ID thread, but your followup seemed... unwise.

172 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:53:56pm

We should start plowing New Orleans....just in case!

173 Rancher  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:53:59pm

re: #139 CyanSnowHawk


Are you sure? I thought a Presidential Pardon could even get Judas out of hell.

174 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:54:18pm

re: #145 gop_patriot

Maybe it's a new Monitor Lizard and they don't quite have the hang of it yet. LOL

/the original offending quote still stands... cleanup on aisle 72

My comment had to do with Biden IIRC, not the racist joke.

175 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:54:35pm

Off to the books. Night all.

176 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:54:40pm

re: #161 MrPaulRevere

I have to say I'm stunned by the amount of media bias in this campaign. Its so obvious they cannot plausibly deny it. This is journalistic malpractice of the highest order. One day this will be given an in-depth examination and be remembered as one the saddest episodes in the storied history of the First Amendment.

They are digging their own grave, and have been for a long time, but now it's in overdrive.

177 KZnextzone  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:55:19pm

It's a joke Cliff the guy tells his family he buried something in a field that needs to be plowed.

178 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:55:34pm

re: #161 MrPaulRevere

I have to say I'm stunned by the amount of media bias in this campaign. Its so obvious they cannot plausibly deny it. This is journalistic malpractice of the highest order. One day this will be given an in-depth examination and be remembered as one the saddest episodes in the storied history of the First Amendment.

more likely it will either be swept under the rug or excused because it was necessary to help American escape it's racist past.

after all, they write the news, and therefore the history.

/bleech!

179 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:55:36pm

re: #161 MrPaulRevere

I have to say I'm stunned by the amount of media bias in this campaign. Its so obvious they cannot plausibly deny it. This is journalistic malpractice of the highest order. One day this will be given an in-depth examination and be remembered as one the saddest episodes in the storied history of the First Amendment.

I say they are doing it on propose to rile up the right.With that done..they think getting the talk show radio bill passed will be easyer.

180 RTLM  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:55:37pm
181 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:55:40pm

re: #163 Rancher

We monitored inmate's telephones. One night STIU (Security Threat Investagative Unit) records an inmate, convicted of another charge but suspected of murder, talking to his Dad. Suspected, but no body. He tells he's Dad, "bastard is buried in Monticito pasture." Police go and dig up two square miles of real estate and find nothing.

Next week the same inmate asks his Dad, "Did Monticito get plowed?"

ROTFLMAO!

182 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:55:40pm

re: #170 cliffster

The cops unwittingly prepared Monticito for planting.

183 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:56:22pm

Sell your media stocks, now. I am serious.

184 zombie  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:56:35pm

re: #161 MrPaulRevere

I have to say I'm stunned by the amount of media bias in this campaign. Its so obvious they cannot plausibly deny it. This is journalistic malpractice of the highest order. One day this will be given an in-depth examination and be remembered as one the saddest episodes in the storied history of the First Amendment.

Don't count on it. Who is going to write this "history"? The journalists and the moonbats, that's who. And they'll never 'fess up to their malfeasance.

185 pat  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:58:18pm

Time, Newsweak(WaPo), NYT, are about to become as important as BoysLife or the Shriners Newsletter.

186 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:58:35pm

re: #173 Rancher

Are you sure? I thought a Presidential Pardon could even get Judas out of hell.

That's what is being said by some previous commenters. I don't know it with certainty, but it seems to fit with the idea of States rights in the Constitution.

Although I hear that Cheney might be able to spring someone from Ol Stan. (But that might just be speculation over on DKos)

187 Temujin  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:58:57pm

re: #178 redc1c4

Hi there, red!

Never a good idea to argue with people who buy ink in 55-gallon drums -

no matter how much they're F***ing up!

188 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:59:26pm

re: #184 zombie

Don't count on it. Who is going to write this "history"? The journalists and the moonbats, that's who. And they'll never 'fess up to their malfeasance.

there's an echo in here...... #178.

/not often i steal a march on the Zombie %-)

189 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Oct 3, 2008 11:59:48pm

re: #184 zombie

Fair point Zombie, the winners write the history books.....there is still a part of me that expects fairness and objectivity from the press. Silly, quaint, old fashioned notions in 2008 America....sigh.

190 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:01:11am

re: #180 RTLM

I'm just a Bill

I remember these shows.That was back in the day when BPS was worth a crap.

191 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:01:33am

I would think the bloggers are where historians might turn. Of course that includes kos and huffpoo, which is a scary thought.....

192 Rancher  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:01:50am

re: #178 redc1c4

after all, they write the news, and therefore the history.

Not now, before blogs maybe, but now there are thousands of primary sources referenced by millions of blogs and fact checked by millions more.

/The blogs are coming, resistance is futile.

193 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:02:49am

re: #189 MrPaulRevere

I meant to say 'a measure of fairness and objectivity". I'm not naive.

194 pat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:03:05am

Funny, Drudge tried to job Palin with his photo choice. The wink. But i think she looks sexy. Drudge is in the tank for Obama, having made an early bet after McCain was chosen that all of us who hate him will not vote GOP.

195 KZnextzone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:03:11am

Sorry Paul, I think winners used to write the history but PC has skewed reality.

196 pat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:04:03am

re: #191 Sharmuta

The problem is that our comments are ethereal.

197 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:04:13am

re: #187 Temujin

Hi there, red!

Never a good idea to argue with people who buy ink in 55-gallon drums -

no matter how much they're F***ing up!


that depends on what you're talking with %-)

/Harmony Church rules

198 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:04:29am

re: #194 pat

Funny, Drudge tried to job Palin with his photo choice. The wink. But i think she looks sexy. Drudge is in the tank for Obama, having made an early bet after McCain was chosen that all of us who hate him will not vote GOP.

Wow, she blinks her left eye like I do.

Stick to the right sweety.

199 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:04:52am

re: #196 pat

The problem is that our comments are ethereal.

Snarky too.

200 Rancher  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:04:56am

re: #190 Oldasdirt

Doctor Who.
Doctor in the House.
Benny Hill.
Monty Python.
Fawlty Towers.

I actually donated to PBS.

201 Tamron  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:05:33am

re: #147 capitalist piglet

I read some very interesting links here earlier tonight; there is compelling case to be made that the ghost writer of "Dreams of My Father" (or whatever Obama's "memoir" is called) was none other than Bill Ayers. Someone who does such things for a living compared the book to writings of Ayers', and the similarities are pretty stunning, actually.

Interesting, because the NYT had a piece out suggesting that Obama barely knows Ayers at all - just met him a couple of times, basically. I don't think anyone buys that, but it sure looks like they want to get ahead of this one.


Look HERE for this interesting tidbit:

This would be a great question for Obama some time- "Did the Ayers ever babysit your children?" I saw this interesting comment at a thread over at Just One Minute: “I live in Obama’s neighborhood and know some of the Obama / Ayers crowd. Ayers and Dohrn have babysat the Obama kids personally. The families are personal friends, not just professional acquaintances.
Posted by: hydeparker | August 13, 2008 at 01:41 PM”


.

202 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:06:06am

re: #197 redc1c4

Some kinda pesticide might be a better choice, IMHO . . .

/

203 KZnextzone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:06:11am

Don't Forget Farty Towels!

204 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:06:21am

re: #195 KZnextzone

Sorry Paul, I think winners used to write the history but PC has skewed reality.

I cant help but think of a line in Bravehart.Rings so true to today.
"History was written by men who have hanged hero's"

205 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:06:32am

re: #191 Sharmuta

Could you imagine landing that assignment? Give 'em hazardous duty pay and an insurance policy with complete mental health coverage.

206 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:06:41am

re: #200 Rancher

Doctor Who.
Doctor in the House.
Benny Hill.
Monty Python.
Fawlty Towers.

I actually donated to PBS.

I bought the entire Benny Hill 6 volume set from A&E. I have such great memories of watching it with my Dad when I was in high school.

207 KZnextzone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:06:55am

OOps shoulda read the whole list...

208 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:07:25am

re: #200 Rancher

Doctor Who.
Doctor in the House.
Benny Hill.
Monty Python.
Fawlty Towers.

I actually donated to PBS.

Those were the good ol days of PBS,,I donated as well..But no more.

209 cliffster  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:08:04am

re: #177 KZnextzone

It's a joke Cliff the guy tells his family he buried something in a field that needs to be plowed.

Yeah I get it, it's funny. I actually heard it before - it was forwarded to me as an email in spanish. I know Spanish, sort of, a little bit. So after picking through a 2 paragraph email for 10 minutes, light bulb flashed. hahahahaha ha. Yeah

210 KZnextzone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:08:28am

Didn't the McDonalds heir give them all her money?

211 freedomplow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:08:36am

With the rise of the new media (internet, Fox, radio) the MSM is going insane and loosing money.

The MSM had a monopoly on information.

They are doubling-down in this election.

Palin should not ever go on NBC or MSNBC.

She should go on the offensive and explain why.

212 Rancher  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:10:10am

re: #186 CyanSnowHawk

... but it seems to fit with the idea of States rights in the Constitution.

State's Rats died at Gettysburg.

213 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:10:18am

re: #192 Rancher

Not now, before blogs maybe, but now there are thousands of primary sources referenced by millions of blogs and fact checked by millions more.

/The blogs are coming, resistance is futile.

There is such a thing as too much material. Culling the wheat from the chaff on the Internet is a Herculean task.

214 Spirit93  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:10:50am

re: #96 KATALEENA

Welcome Kat.
Tell us more about volunteering. What state are yore: #211 freedomplow

Yep, that's what I've been saying - campaign against the media.

215 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:10:53am

re: #205 MrPaulRevere

Could you imagine landing that assignment? Give 'em hazardous duty pay and an insurance policy with complete mental health coverage.

No. I couldn't imagine, but what this means is Killgore could be our historian.

216 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:11:13am

re: #202 Temujin

Some kinda pesticide might be a better choice, IMHO . . .

/

lead kills bugs dead...... and rats, and..... well, you get the picture.

217 Spirit93  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:11:28am

Crap
pimf

218 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:11:52am

re: #210 KZnextzone

Didn't the McDonalds heir give them all her money?

Joan Kroc. I think she may have endowed them, but IIRC, most of her fortune went to Ronald McDonald House.

219 KZnextzone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:11:56am

same thing is happening in Real Estate ..the MLS is going viral

220 freedomplow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:12:01am

re: #171 CyanSnowHawk

Your history had nothing to do with it. Your deleted comment was practically telling Charles what not to post. Your sarcastic response could very well have gotten you the stick. I don't know Charles mood after the rather spirited ID thread, but your followup seemed... unwise.

I don't know Charles mood after the rather spirited ID thread, but your followup seemed... unwise.

Just go ahead and delete it then. Not knowing Charles mood and all.

221 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:12:06am

re: #96 KATALEENA

Hi lizards...my very first time posting...I'm a bit intimidated by all the smart people here! I am so impressed with LGF and I have on many occasions found comfort here!

Been freaking out lately with the slip in the polls for McCain so have decided to do something about it and have volunteered at the local McCain HQ...and it felt great. Many, many first time volunteers there.
Last Saturday the line was consistently out the door; people coming to make calls, get yard signs, bumper stickers, etc.

Getting ready to see Palin tomorrow in Carson, Ca...! I AM SO EXCITED!

Awesome!

222 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:12:19am

re: #201 Tamron

I've heard that rumor. Interesting but almost impossible to prove, absent a confession from Ayers. Even if he did confess it, the media would obsess about Mrs. Palins hairdo or some such rubbish.

223 cliffster  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:12:57am

re: #213 CyanSnowHawk

There is such a thing as too much material. Culling the wheat from the chaff on the Internet is a Herculean task.

Especially when the people who would be doing the fact checking are so very interested in believing the facts are true or false, one way or the other. Journalistic integrity still probably means something, at least a teensie weensie little bit, to a New York Times reporter. huff dot com, though, forget it.

224 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:13:14am

re: #212 Rancher

State's Rats died at Gettysburg.

Okay, believe what you will.

225 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:16:01am

re: #220 freedomplow

Woah. Calm down dude.

226 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:16:35am
You can’t step twice into the same river.

The above truism and the OJ comments reminded me of a comment by the former Bills QB that he would not believe that his old team mate could be capable of the cold-blooded Simpson murders.

I guess in the philosophical sense, the killer of Nicole and Ron wasn't the same guy who ran for 2K yards in a season.

But I'm not that much of a philosopher.

227 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:16:41am

re: #215 Sharmuta

He's the right man for the job. I hope he's OK, I heard he went abroad. Gotta pick and choose those destinations carefully.

228 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:19:23am

Seems today,a person has a microphone in there hand very long,they start to lean left.Maybe we need more ambidextrous reporters.
And yes,i had to use spell check for ambidextrous.

229 Rancher  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:19:45am

re: #213 CyanSnowHawk

There is such a thing as too much material. Culling the wheat from the chaff on the Internet is a Herculean task.

I don't have much trouble, I know who I can trust, and I'm living in the now where track records on accuracy are just now being created. I trust Rush, Charles, Michelle Malkin, others. You can trust Rancher, but mainly trust the links. We source every thing we say, you choose if that link is from someone you trust. However time will tell what sources turned out to be reliable. I actually think tomorrows historians will have it far easier than today's.

230 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:20:32am

re: #227 MrPaulRevere

I believe his vacation is over soon and he'll be back.

231 Syrah  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:22:01am

The website is down.

/not really safe for work, even if it may remind you of it.

Goodnight all.

232 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:22:45am

re: #173 Rancher

Are you sure? I thought a Presidential Pardon could even get Judas out of hell.

Remember a few weeks ago when TX fried the Mexican citizen over W's objections? He didn't try to pardon the guy.

And the Supremes said everyone could p*ss and moan about it all they wanted, but Texas has the right to enforce Texas law no matter how the Pope, Europeans in general, and Mexico in particular felt about it.

But then that ol boy had never won a Heisman or been a star running back.

233 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:22:45am

Just a quick question. I'm looking at some potential houses for my family to buy....

When it says "Foreclosure Status: Notice of Default", what does it mean? We can buy it at the price listed?

234 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:23:03am
235 Tamron  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:24:18am

re: #213 CyanSnowHawk

There is such a thing as too much material. Culling the wheat from the chaff on the Internet is a Herculean task.

How true! I just came across this fascinating video series outlining the history of central banks and the Federal Reserve. I've only seen the first one of the 7-part series so far, but it's quite interesting. Wish I'd have had this info many years ago.

Of course it has nothing to do with today's current financial scene.....
.

236 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:27:30am

re: #234 ploome hineni

......are you a racist?

I love and allways have loved Jackie Mason

237 freedomplow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:28:08am

re: #225 CyanSnowHawk

Woah. Calm down dude.

Never had anything deleted, until now. Someone screwed up my perfect record. Did I screw up my perfect record?

Take care.

238 KZnextzone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:28:40am

information has no impact if it can't be processed

239 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:28:49am

re: #236 Oldasdirt

Not on any physical way!

240 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:28:53am
241 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:30:34am

re: #234 ploome hineni

......are you a racist?

Ah, thanks ploome. I really like Jackie Mason. I've even forgiven him for Caddyshack II.

242 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:30:58am

re: #240 ploome hineni

Did you ever see the Guy from Boston?

243 cliffster  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:31:17am

re: #239 Oldasdirt

Not on any physical way!

Er, um, thanks for clearing that up. %)

244 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:32:24am

By the way, CBS has original Star Trek episodes in the HD format for free....[Link: www.cbs.com...]

245 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:32:51am

re: #237 freedomplow

Yeah, I think you did. I don't know what member of the Stinky Force may have done it, but I don't have that kind of power.

You take care too.

246 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:33:25am

re: #243 cliffster

Er, um, thanks for clearing that up. %)

Just new i had to cover my ass.

247 cliffster  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:34:16am

re: #246 Oldasdirt

Just new i had to cover my ass.

I'll sleep better knowing it ;) Night all

248 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:35:35am

RIP Nick Reynolds from the Kingston Trio.......

this one's for you.

249 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:36:05am

Yep! That Hillary is trying her hardest, doggoneit, to help 0bama:

"I think she's very good," Clinton said, praising Palin on Ryan Seacrest's Los Angeles-based radio show Friday morning. "It's amazing: she's been thrust into the national spotlight with very little preparation and I think that, all things considered, you saw a very composed and effective debater last night."

Praise for Palin's debate performance aside, Clinton reiterated her support for her former Democratic rivals during the morning radio interview and said "the real issue is who is better for America."

Uh-huh. I believe you, Hill.

250 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:36:46am

Anyone catch that Angels/Red Sox game tonight? Holy crap! I was in a bar and that managed suck in some non-baseball fans for the last few innings.

/shouted myself hoarse during Game 1, so now- under the best of circumstances- it sounds like I have a cold or I'm the dorky teenage clerk from The Simpsons

251 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:38:27am


Just funny. Warning,Harsh language.

252 RTLM  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:38:37am

Personally - I think 'freedomplow' is the coolest sounding nick on the blog.

FREEDOM-PLOW

Good name for a band. And never a cross comment that I can remember.

253 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:41:04am

re: #244 MrPaulRevere

By the way, CBS has original Star Trek episodes in the HD format for free....[Link: www.cbs.com...]

Not the remastered ones. At least not the episode I just sampled. Those new effects are just gorgeous. I'll have to buy the series on Blu-Ray now.

254 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:42:25am

‘Politico’ Reporters Invade Arkansas; Blogger Unharmed

The money shot...

During the Q&A session, one woman prefaced her question with the announcement that “I get all my news from ‘The Daily Show,’” like that’s something to be all proud of.

Look, if you’re getting all your news from “The Daily Show,” or “The Colbert Report,” or “Rush Limbaugh,” or The Arkansas Times, or The Arkansas Project, and you go around telling people this like it’s a bragging point, you are an idiot. You probably should not be allowed to vote. You probably shouldn’t even be allowed to drive a car. In fact, you should probably have your mittens pinned to your jacket and have to wear a safety helmet everywhere you go.

I LOLed. Out loud.

255 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:42:36am

re: #249 Sharmuta

Bill and Hillary belong to a unique political party, lets call it for the sake of clarity, the 'Clinton party'. An Obama victory bodes ill for that party.

256 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:42:47am

re: #244 MrPaulRevere

By the way, CBS has original Star Trek episodes in the HD format for free....[Link: www.cbs.com...]

I will allways remember the on called "The trouble with Tribles."

257 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:44:05am

re: #256 Oldasdirt

Are you pissed at Katie Couric? Go eat up their bandwith for free I say.

258 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:45:43am

re: #256 Oldasdirt

I will allways remember the on called "The trouble with Tribles."

One of my favorites. I've still got a couple tribbles around here somewhere. Even have one that makes noise.

259 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:46:06am

re: #257 MrPaulRevere

Are you pissed at Katie Couric? Go eat up their bandwith for free I say.

Not just her,but haveing to battle all of the MSM.

260 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:47:25am

Wow, is it almost 1:00 already?

Night all. weet dreams.

261 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:47:38am

re: #258 CyanSnowHawk

One of my favorites. I've still got a couple tribbles around here somewhere. Even have one that makes noise.

Are you sure it's just a couple,,have you checked lately?

262 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:48:19am

re: #260 CyanSnowHawk

Night CyanSnowHawk

263 Crux Australis  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:49:00am

I can't believe that the United States is going to give both houses of Congress and the White House to the Democrats.

I know 4 1/2 weeks is still a long time but I'm getting more depressed by the day.

As for John McCain, I can't really work out where he is at the moment. He has enough ammunition to go after Obama but he isn't using it.

Concerned Aussie here.

264 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:50:14am

re: #255 MrPaulRevere

Bill and Hillary belong to a unique political party, lets call it for the sake of clarity, the 'Clinton party'. An Obama victory bodes ill for that party.

Oh, I agree completely. With her type of campaign "help", who needs enemies?

265 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:50:42am

re: #263 Crux Australis

Umm- we're not.

266 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:51:42am

re: #263 Crux Australis

Im thinking the next 2 debates will be very telling for him.I hope the Mr. nice guy stays home,and the fighter he is comes out.

267 freedomplow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:52:15am

re: #252 RTLM

Personally - I think 'freedomplow' is the coolest sounding nick on the blog.

FREEDOM-PLOW

Good name for a band. And never a cross comment that I can remember.

Thank You.

If you stand in the way of Freedom and Democracy you are going to get run over.

No apologies.

The United States has freed more people than all other countries combined.

We will free everyone.

268 Crux Australis  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:54:40am

What about the effect an Obama Presidency could have on the war on terrorism.

269 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:55:56am

re: #267 freedomplow

We also use 1/3 rd of our food to feed the world and are the first to help in a disaster.If their government lets us.

270 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 12:59:03am

re: #268 Crux Australis

What about the effect an Obama Presidency could have on the war on terrorism.

what war on terrorism?

and your next question is?

271 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:00:00am

re: #268 Crux Australis

What about the effect an Obama Presidency could have on the war on terrorism.

I think he will be tested by the terrorist and several countries,due to his lack of experience.If he wins,he will be as busy as a one legged man at a butt kicking contest.

272 freedomplow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:04:11am

re: #269 Oldasdirt

We also use 1/3 rd of our food to feed the world and are the first to help in a disaster.If their government lets us.

It's not easy being good. But we try.

Scratch that. Everything we do in this world is for good.

273 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:04:12am

re: #271 Oldasdirt

I think he will be tested by the terrorist and several countries,due to his lack of experience.If he wins,he will be as busy as a one legged man at a butt kicking contest.

win? he hates America and has no spine...... HTF is he supposed to win?

/not that he, his wife or any of his supporters would want to anyway.

274 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:07:50am

re: #267 freedomplow

Thank You.

If you stand in the way of Freedom and Democracy you are going to get run over.

No apologies.

The United States has freed more people than all other countries combined.

We will free everyone.

A long time ago,
An enslaved people heading toward freedom
Made up a song:
Keep Your Hand On The Plow! Hold On!
The plow plowed a new furrow
Across the field of history.
Into that furrow the freedom seed was dropped.
From that seed a tree grew, is growing, will ever grow.
That tree is for everybody,
For all America, for all the world.
May its branches spread and shelter grow
Until all races and all peoples know its shade.
KEEP YOUR HAND ON THE PLOW! HOLD ON!

--from Freedom's Plow, by Langston Hughes

275 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:09:12am

re: #273 redc1c4

win? he hates America and has no spine...... HTF is he supposed to win?

/not that he, his wife or any of his supporters would want to anyway.

The Dem's are busy right now stealing Ohio.the MSM is pumping up the idiots of our country with delusions of grandeur over this punk.We as Conservatives are in the fight of our lives.I hope like HELL he dose not win,,but he might.

276 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:10:12am

re: #263 Crux Australis

I can't believe that the United States is going to give both houses of Congress and the White House to the Democrats.

I know 4 1/2 weeks is still a long time but I'm getting more depressed by the day.

As for John McCain, I can't really work out where he is at the moment. He has enough ammunition to go after Obama but he isn't using it.

Concerned Aussie here.

Tails up, Aussie.

1. We're not 'giving' Congress and the WH to Democrats, they're stealing them fair and square.

2. "Depressed"? Come on, you're in Australia, for Pete's sakes. Half a world away from our little dust-up.

3. Yeah, John McCain has ammo he isn't using. McCain holds to outdated ideas. You know. Loyalty, a gentleman's ethos, civility. The dude's practically antediluvian. I can't understand why he doesn't hire a few bar-fighters with lower standards though.

Obama's support is overstated. A mile wide and an inch deep, as they say. The poll we take on November 4 may well look different than the polls you see now.

277 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:13:16am

I'm with Sarah. Let's keep fighting the good fight and not give in to defeatism.

As the man said, "Let's roll!"

278 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:19:02am

McCain is a crusty old dog and those stripes aren't going to change. All that talk of OODA ....is that now forgotten? The way that he has been acting recently makes no sense at all unless it is seen thru that OODA scenario, and it's obvious as hell to me.

He is playing possum, biding his time until it's time to play his hand. This is a man who spent five years as a prisoner of war. Does anyone really think that he has suddenly lost his fire? His passion for the kill? That makes no sense. He is playing this masterfully, lulling Obama and ilk into thinking they are going to coast right on to victory and steal this country ...HIS country, right out from under his nose. Is there anything that we know about McCain that would support his allowing this to happen like a doddering old fool? NO.

There are two debates to go that I suspect will surprise many. I believe the fumbling McCain we are currently seeing and so disappointed in will come roaring back to life as McCain the Fighter, the Warrior. I believe in him.

279 freedomplow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:20:30am

Never Forget means so much.

280 harry catbox  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:23:15am

You can’t step twice into the same river.

— Heraclitus

Unless it is frozen.

— Richard Nixon

281 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:23:23am

re: #276 razorbacker

"3. Yeah, John McCain has ammo he isn't using. McCain holds to outdated ideas. You know. Loyalty, a gentleman's ethos, civility. The dude's practically antediluvian. I can't understand why he doesn't hire a few bar-fighters with lower standards though." Correct analysis. I'm not a 'whatever it takes' kind of guy. But tough, hard hitting, factually accurate ads are called for, together with an appropriate mix of positive ads. And like Sharmuta, I refuse to give in to defeatism. It becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.

282 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:24:48am

pink freud

I sure hope you are right. But, just today he said how much he repected Al Gore and would call upon him to help in the war against climate change.

283 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:25:06am

Full disclosure:

I consider this author to be a fool, a twit, a charlatan, and someone that I'd not trust to look after either my pets or children in a pinch.

But it's hard to argue with this, and I think it well expressed.

Our political parties are corpses and democracy as we used to know it is quite dead

The cold, miserable truth is that both our major political parties are corpses, their original purposes long forgotten, their loyal members driven away or sidelined, their traditional voters taken for granted. Every so often, by a mysterious process, one of them is declared electable and the other is declared unelectable. And we, the voters, do as we are told. By whom? For what purpose?

He's talking about England and the Tories and Labour. But really, can't you apply the above paragraph to the Democans? Or Repubicats, if you prefer.

284 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:26:14am

re: #277 Sharmuta

I'm with Sarah. Let's keep fighting the good fight and not give in to defeatism.

As the man said, "Let's roll!"

fix bayonets!

285 gmsc  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:27:37am

I was looking for video of the OJ verdict being read, and I came across this OJ Simpson footage instead.

286 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:28:42am

re: #278 pink freud

I know this- McCain wants this job. He's wanted it for quite some time, and this is his last and best shot at it. I don't think he'll go down without a fight, that's for sure.

287 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:34:59am

The conclusion of the above link. 'Cause some of youse don't click through.

The rule nowadays is that you cannot become the government unless you bow to the views of the ‘Centre-Left’ media elite, especially the broadcast media elite. That elite speaks for the 1968 generation which fanned out in the Seventies into the civil service, education, entertainment, the law, the arts, rock music and – above all – the media.

We no longer have elections where two evenly matched parties go into a fair contest with competing ideas and it is over only when the last vote is counted. Instead, we have wild swings in which the approved party goes into the Election with a giant poll lead and then wins the Election with a mad, crushingly enormous majority over the unapproved party.

And the winner is always the ‘Centre-Left’, which claims to be moderate but is in fact a swirling cauldron of wild Sixties Leftism – anti-British, anti-family, anti-Christian, anti-education and pro-crime.

But if you dare to oppose this stuff, they’ll call you an extremist.

You'd think the dude was writing about Ahmurrica.

288 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:38:24am

re: #282 tommoon

pink freud

I sure hope you are right. But, just today he said how much he repected Al Gore and would call upon him to help in the war against climate change.

Yes. But this is a small thing when put into perspective. He loses nothing at this point by saying this (votes, from his base .....the alternative is Obama, remember) and at the same time he courts the climate change nuts. I don't like his stand on "climate change" either, but it's inconsequential at this stage. We all know what the alternative is.

289 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:38:39am

pink?!

290 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:40:15am

re: #289 littleoldlady

pink?!

My friend! Good morning : )

Yes, I finally managed to stay awake long enough.

/stress is a wonderful thing, no?

Hows by you?

291 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:41:35am

re: #290 pink freud

stress is a wonderful thing

If you say so. :-/

I'm hanging in (...by a thread).

It's so good to see you! :-)

292 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:44:20am

pink freud

I have many veteran friends who also think like you. I have given McCain a few donations. I keep waiting for him to get in the fight. The time is getting tight. Come on John, get the gloves off. Expose Obama for what he is. We are depending on you. It is time right now for John McCain to fight to be the next President of the USA.

293 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:45:14am

re: #291 littleoldlady

Wonderful to see you too, littleoldlady! I miss these dead threads and all you dead threaders.

This week, I am fretting over statistics, car troubles, the hated MSM, the election, the treasonous congress-critters .......

/they ALL heard from me this week

294 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:45:47am

re: #291 littleoldlady

If you say so. :-/

I'm hanging in (...by a thread).

It's so good to see you! :-)

no worries there LoL: i've got the fruitcup all fired up and ready to go!

/you can go back to sleep. %-)

295 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:46:34am

re: #293 pink freud

Statistics the course, or statistics the polls? ;-)

296 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:48:11am

Question for the stock market lizards.

If McCain gets elected do the markets go up because of his 'world global market views' and less taxes?

Or do they go down because of Obamas protectionism, Universal health care, and more taxes on business?

Will the government controlled Universal health care be good for markets or disaster?

/where to put what little money I have left?

297 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:49:31am

re: #294 redc1c4

Eyes wide open - NOW! ;-)

298 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:49:55am

re: #292 tommoon

tom, remember how his video ads would pop out almost immediately in the last few weeks? His responses were lightening fast. He's shown us what he is made us, and what kind of team he has. They're still with him. He still has the heart of a warrior --- and a maverick. This is all for show and we are worrying a lot about something we should be confident about. He is playing to Obama's weakness .....his arrogance and sense of invincibility. The more puffed up Obama is the harder and farther his fall will be. That kind of thing is sweet music to someone like McCain.

299 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:51:08am

re: #295 littleoldlady

Statistics the course, or statistics the polls? ;-)

The course, 'a course. The polls, on the other hand, are nothing but meaningless numbers. :-)

300 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:51:26am

I heard on the radio earlier today various senators smugly congratulate themselves for apporving the bailout proposal managing to blame the Bush admin. and inderectly credit Obama.....nary a mention how much of these slimeballs were digging around up to their wrists in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae's pockets.

301 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:51:30am

re: #296 ibmkeyboard

ibm! :-)

The markets go down regardless of who is President. In fact, our economy will take a minimum of 5 years to pull itself back together again - unless something wonderful happens in the energy sector.

I recommend your mattress.

302 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:52:35am

re: #299 pink freud

That was the one that nearly sent me out of school and into a management position at McDonalds.

{[{pink!}]}

303 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:52:46am

ibmkeyboard

Hang on to your money. Keep in in the bank. Obama is a disaster for the market. McCain hopefully will let it be. The less the government does the better the economy. One thing for sure it will get much worse before it gets better.

304 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:54:13am

WOW!

MN Poll: McCain +1

If McCain is leading in a blue state that hasn't voted for a republican since Nixon, we should all take heart!

305 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:54:30am

re: #302 littleoldlady

That was the one that nearly sent me out of school and into a management position at McDonalds.

{[{pink!}]}

/same boat. I'm preparing my resume.

306 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:54:51am

pink freud

Like I said, I sure hope you are right. We need him to be strong. NOW.

307 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:55:28am

re: #297 littleoldlady

Eyes wide open - NOW! ;-)

day late, dollar short.......

have you tried a taste? %-)

308 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:56:04am

re: #305 pink freud

OH NO YOU DON'T! You're too close to finishing!

/holding pink's hand...

309 Crux Australis  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:56:41am

re: #276 razorbacker

Tails up, Aussie.
2. "Depressed"? Come on, you're in Australia, for Pete's sakes. Half a world away from our little dust up

What about the Sydney stock exchange this week? And the Sydney property market's exposure to the US?

310 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:57:12am

re: #301 littleoldlady

ibm! :-)

The markets go down regardless of who is President. In fact, our economy will take a minimum of 5 years to pull itself back together again - unless something wonderful happens in the energy sector.

I recommend your mattress.

what's wrong with *your* mattress?

/white smoke!

311 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:57:37am

re: #307 redc1c4

On second thought, red "enhanced" fruitcup might be the only thing that gets me through to November 4th.

312 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:58:09am

re: #310 redc1c4

Weighted down with pennies.

/saving up for gold

313 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:59:05am

littleoldlady

At least we will get a descent breakfast every morning with littleoldlady around. Could I have a fruit cup?

314 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 1:59:28am

re: #308 littleoldlady

This is my last class needed to finish my course work. They still require that year of practicum ....and the way I have been feeling about the human race lately, that is an appalling thought.

/too many Children of the Corn/Obama Youth videos

315 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

316 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:00:35am

re: #312 littleoldlady

Weighted down with pennies.

/saving up for gold

well, there's always the sofa, the duvet, the kitchen counter..... %-)

/more white smoke

317 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:00:36am

I reccomend fruitcup

318 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:01:40am

re: #314 pink freud

This is my last class needed to finish my course work. They still require that year of practicum ....and the way I have been feeling about the human race lately, that is an appalling thought.

/too many Children of the Corn/Obama Youth videos

what is your field of study, since i haven't been taking notes?

red the recent dropout

319 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:01:43am

tommoon! :-)

Bon appetit!

re: #314 pink freud

Just think. Your target market will have increased exponentially.

/particularly if The O loses.
//either way, actually

320 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:01:44am

re: #304 Sharmuta

Don't count your moonbats before they hatch . . .

321 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:02:31am

Fenway! :-)

322 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:02:45am

re: #315 littleoldlady

May the giving hand never falter.

323 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:03:10am

Temujin! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

LGF! :-)

324 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:03:24am

You've not lost your touch, LOL. :-)

I'm taking one for the road, and heading off to bed. It's so nice to see you again ....all of you. :-)

'Nite LOL, sharm, tommoon, fenway, red .....weet dreams all

325 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:03:43am

re: #309 Crux Australis

What about the Sydney stock exchange this week? And the Sydney property market's exposure to the US?

Stand tall, head up, shoulders back, stomach in and console yourself that you've done your small part to pay for some arrogant prick's Masarati.

I'm doing my share. I've contributed over 30% of the funds formerly marked towards my retirement years to the US markets' decline. Should pay for someone's upmarket sound system, at least.

326 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:05:19am

re: #311 littleoldlady

On second thought, red "enhanced" fruitcup might be the only thing that gets me through to November 4th.


Good Morning Lizards..
Hi ya littleoldlady..any fruitcups around?
/mmmm.fruit..
I guess it's a bad day to be OJ..

327 Jimmah  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:05:46am

re: #6 TheMatrix31

The meaning of that quote is going over my head, I must say.

It's about change. Every time you go to the river, it's different from the last time.

328 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:06:26am

re: #318 redc1c4

Red, if I recall correctly, you're gone back to school recently also?

I am 50, started as a brand new freshman at 44, six years ago. I went straight through to my masters work and am almost done.

Psychology.

/but there are days I think i know more about humankind than is good for me

329 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:06:39am

'Night, pink!

I'm rootin' for you! HANG IN THERE! :-)

330 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:07:43am

re: #326 HoosierHoops

HoosierHoops!

Plenty of fruitcup - help yourself!

What happened to OJ? Justice? (Finally!?)

331 pink freud  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:09:16am

re: #329 littleoldlady

'Night, pink!

I'm rootin' for you! HANG IN THERE! :-)

Thank you my friend. You take care, I will be hanging 'round here off and on. I lurk a lot lately ...so much information. This is - bar none - the best site on the web.

332 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:09:31am

re: #330 littleoldlady

HoosierHoops!

Plenty of fruitcup - help yourself!

What happened to OJ? Justice? (Finally!?)

Good morn..
guilty on all counts...
13 years to the day he was found not guilty..
How's that for the Irony meter

333 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:09:51am

re: #326 HoosierHoops

I guess it's a bad day to be OJ..

I could not even turn my TV on for a year because of The Juice.

Payback!

/

334 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:10:35am

Wierd....killing two human beings wasn't enough to send OJ up the creek, but stealing back some of his old shoes (allegedly) at gunpoint is what did him in?

335 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:12:03am

re: #334 Fenway_Nation

Fenway - karma is what did him in!

336 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:12:05am

re: #320 Temujin

Don't count your moonbats before they hatch . . .

I'm just sick of the defeatism. That Blue MN is +1 for McCain gives me hope.

337 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:12:18am

Hi {lol}!

338 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:12:31am

re: #332 HoosierHoops

KARMA!

/yay!

339 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:12:35am

re: #333 Temujin

I could not even turn my TV onOff for a year because of The Juice.

Payback!

/


fixed it
LOL
It was like watching a wreck..
How are you today?

340 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:13:35am

Sharmuta,

Thank you for keeping our spirits up! :-)

341 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:14:04am

re: #338 littleoldlady

KARMA!

/yay!

Instant karma is gonna get you
/j. lennon

342 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:14:45am

re: #337 Sharmuta

Hi {lol}!

Good Morning! how are you today?

343 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:14:59am

re: #341 HoosierHoops

Well not so instant, but that's okay. ;-)

344 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:15:17am

re: #334 Fenway_Nation

Wierd....killing two human beings wasn't enough to send OJ up the creek, but stealing back some of his old shoes (allegedly) at gunpoint is what did him in?

You see, they were his Bruno Maglis.

345 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:15:55am

re: #341 HoosierHoops

Instant karma is gonna get you
/j. lennon

More like steel-cut karma in this case . . .

346 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:16:59am

re: #336 Sharmuta

I'm just sick of the defeatism. That Blue MN is +1 for McCain gives me hope.


Don't worry. Before this financial fiasco McCain was up by 3. This thing will shift again and in the end, come election day, it will be mighty close.

347 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:17:08am

re: #343 littleoldlady

Well not so instant, but that's okay. ;-)

Who is going to find Nicoles' killer if OJ is in jail?

348 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:17:42am

re: #347 HoosierHoops

Who is going to find Nicoles' killer if OJ is in jail?

OBAMA!

349 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:17:49am

re: #342 HoosierHoops

Hi Hoops. I'm not bad. I still think we can win. How are you?

/and lol- you're welcome. :)

350 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:17:58am

re: #336 Sharmuta

I'm just sick of the defeatism. That Blue MN is +1 for McCain gives me hope.

Yep. It is getting to me as well. Take heart Sharmuta. Here's a poll of voting age people in my house: McCain 2 Obama 0. I feel good about it because this poll has held steady for nearly a year now.

351 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:18:39am

re: #317 Fenway_Nation

I reccomend fruitcup

and i recommend........

/traditionalist

352 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:19:11am

re: #346 rednaxela

I'm not too worried, but the defeatism has been getting to me, I'll admit. Sarah helped a great deal towards improving my spirits.

353 conservativeChick  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:19:26am

Ohh man this is really going to hurt OJ's chances to hunt for the real killers.
/SARC/

354 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:19:32am

re: #350 rightwinger3

LOL!

355 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:19:55am

re: #353 conservativeChick

Hey- are you over at a PUMA site?

356 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:20:02am

re: #320 Temujin

Don't count your moonbats before they hatch . . .

can we just smash the eggs and leave them for the 'possums and the ants?

357 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:20:52am

re: #349 Sharmuta

Hi Hoops. I'm not bad. I still think we can win. How are you?

/and lol- you're welcome. :)

Oh. I know we are going to win...Jeez just because it's a close game you don't give up..you try harder...
there is no room for defeatism during a contest...

358 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:21:06am

re: #347 HoosierHoops

Who is going to find Nicoles' killer if OJ is in jail?

the bailiff, during morning headcount?

359 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:21:12am

re: #347 HoosierHoops

Who is going to find Nicoles' killer if OJ is in jail?

Obviously the killer is a golfer. Arnold Palmer, maybe, or one of his ilk.

How else to explain OJ's vow to continue the search for the killer, and his subsequent attempt to play as much golf as one possibly can?

360 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:21:20am

re: #354 Sharmuta

LOL!

I'd like to add something else as well. Among the non-voting age people in my house none of them sing.

361 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:21:59am

re: #353 conservativeChick

conservativeChick! :-)

362 conservativeChick  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:22:55am

re: #358 redc1c4

Thats good.

363 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:23:14am

re: #357 HoosierHoops

I haven't been a defeatist, though I admit it's getting to me. It's draining, and I'm tired of it. And I agree- we just have to keep going, and try harder.

I have faith because we've got the PUMAs, for one. Those folks have fire in their bellies.

364 conservativeChick  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:23:17am

re: #361 littleoldlady

LittleOldLady!

365 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:23:56am

re: #359 razorbacker

Obviously the killer is a golfer. Arnold Palmer, maybe, or one of his ilk.

How else to explain OJ's vow to continue the search for the killer, and his subsequent attempt to play as much golf as one possibly can?


Well the evidence point to someone athletic..maybe Tiger woods?

366 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:24:52am

re: #356 redc1c4

red - considering that Minnesota was once the natural habitat of Hubert Horatio Humphrey, the current trend is at least cause for cautious optimism . . .

367 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:25:38am

re: #363 Sharmuta

I haven't been a defeatist, though I admit it's getting to me. It's draining, and I'm tired of it. And I agree- we just have to keep going, and try harder.

I have faith because we've got the PUMAs, for one. Those folks have fire in their bellies.

Oh..I know..I know some PUMA's and they dispise Obama worse than any pub i know....They cut deep in the attacks...

368 razorbacker  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:26:12am

re: #365 HoosierHoops

Well the evidence point to someone athletic..maybe Tiger woods?

Oh sure, blame the caublasian guy.

369 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:26:32am

re: #328 pink freud

Red, if I recall correctly, you're gone back to school recently also?

I am 50, started as a brand new freshman at 44, six years ago. I went straight through to my masters work and am almost done.

Psychology.

/but there are days I think i know more about humankind than is good for me

i dropped the program i enrolled in, on the grounds it was not as advertised, and not marketable. at our age, we need skill sets that can be used, not just a paper to get in the door.

i'm now looking at another program that will give me a BS in Healthcare Administration.... but i'm still lookin.

but i'm also looking a damn sight harder before i drop the hammer this time, 'cause i ain't going through this again. one pass, haul ass.

370 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:27:43am

re: #352 Sharmuta

Here too. I think if McCain can get within 3 or 4 by election day, he'll have a good shot at winning. At the end of the day, there's going to be a bunch of voters with cold feet and they'll go with tried and tested.

There's 31 days left and a lot can happen and the way this has been going, a lot will happen.

371 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:27:51am

re: #368 razorbacker

Oh sure, blame the caublasian guy.

LOL
ok coffee refill..anyone else? It's Kona today..

372 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:28:04am

re: #366 Temujin

red - considering that Minnesota was once the natural habitat of Hubert Horatio Humphrey, the current trend is at least cause for cautious optimism . . .

optimism is it's own punishment.......

(it's dark on my world. %-)

373 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:28:27am

re: #367 HoosierHoops

I really think we're going to win because of them.

374 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:28:54am

re: #371 HoosierHoops

LOL
ok coffee refill..anyone else? It's Kona today..

Please! :-)

375 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:29:05am

re: #372 redc1c4

The darkest hour is just before dawn . . .

376 conservativeChick  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:30:23am

I got to hit the hay and get some rest. I have a bad case of strap throat and my doctor told me I need my rest. Goodnight Lizards!

377 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:30:59am

re: #373 Sharmuta

I really think we're going to win because of them.

Also.. The reason i think we win is because Sarah is going to bring the Indy's to our side on election day..People think she is bringing the base..we have the base..we need those indy's and Sarah is going to bring them in droves...

378 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:31:06am

Don't get me wrong, ConservativeChick- if that's you over there, I think that's kick ass, and I'm totally jealous. Wish I could get in over there. Please- if that is you- keep feeding them!

379 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:32:18am

re: #374 littleoldlady

Please! :-)

Cost me 20 bucks for one pound..but it's worth it..

380 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:32:53am

re: #373 Sharmuta

There's also still the David Kernell issue. I don't think it will help Barry if the son of a Democratic legislator gets indicted for hacking Palin's email.

381 conservativeChick  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:33:27am

re: #378 Sharmuta

Thanks.

382 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:34:56am

re: #379 HoosierHoops

Cost me 20 bucks for one pound..but it's worth it..

Half a cup?

/conservationist

383 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:39:00am

re: #380 rednaxela

Some judge will doubtless chalk that incident up to "youthful exuberance".

384 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:40:20am

re: #380 rednaxela

I think the financial ties will sink his numbers.

385 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:41:28am

One more thing on the OJ verdict.

I remember a scene out of one my favorite movies "Lawrence of Arabia" , one of Lawrence boys was lost in the desert and everyone told him to forget it, this boy was gone and it was "said" Anthony Quinn told him so. Lawrence went into the desert and rescued this boy. He told Anthony Quinn that nothing was "said". Later a killing took place that would break apart the alliance that Lawrence had put together. His boy had killed another and Lawerence would have to kill this boy to save the alliance. And he did so. After he shot the boy Anthony Quinn commented to another chieftain, "see I told you it was said".

386 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:41:47am

re: #377 HoosierHoops

People crave common sense and real folk. That's what Sarah is.

387 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:41:51am

re: #73 Charles

You are beginning to get oIn my last nerve.

/don't fuck with Charles' sensibilities, lesson learned

388 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:43:42am

re: #387 Killian Bundy

What thread?

/and who?

389 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:44:14am

re: #375 Temujin

The darkest hour is just before dawn . . .

not really....

BTW: stand to is one hour before BEMNT.

390 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:44:23am

re: #387 Killian Bundy

/don't fuck with Charles' sensibilities, lesson learned

/me

391 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:46:47am

re: #390 Killian Bundy

Oh.

/but you're still here... ;-)

392 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:48:57am

re: #390 Killian Bundy

/me

woooo..you got beat the hell up..
Littleoldlady..Boil some water..I'll tear up some t-shirts..
It's going to be a long morning...Sit down Killian..
/what where you thinking pissing off the master lizards?

393 Temujin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:50:16am

re: #389 redc1c4

red - you just gotta cheer up! It's not the end of the world . . .

/that doesn't happen 'til 2019, when the giant bees come!

394 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:53:12am

re: #391 littleoldlady

Oh.

/but you're still here... ;-)

Barely.

/I don't care anymore

395 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:54:15am

re: #394 Killian Bundy

Barely.

/I don't care anymore

Don't go into that dark night..

396 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:55:06am

re: #394 Killian Bundy

Barely.

/I don't care anymore

Yes you do. You're committing harikari along with the market.

/dust off the law degree!
//at least you are marketable, Killian

397 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 2:59:50am

re: #394 Killian Bundy

Aww, did your delicate sensibilities get bruised?

398 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:00:55am

re: #397 MrPaulRevere

Aww, did your delicate sensibilities get bruised?

Hey paul..haven't seen you in quite a while..How are you doing?

399 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:03:08am

re: #398 HoosierHoops

Doing fine, thanks for asking, I've been rehabbing a dislocated shoulder, a profoundly painful injury. I hope you are well!

400 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:04:33am

Ok, why is everyone down on Killian Bundy? And why doesn't Killian not seem to care anymore. This sounds a lot like and old soap show called Mary Hartman Mary Hartman.

401 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:05:03am

re: #399 MrPaulRevere

Doing fine, thanks for asking, I've been rehabbing a dislocated shoulder, a profoundly painful injury. I hope you are well!

How the heck did you do that?
/never go into the lane against Shaq without a good pick my friend...:)

402 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:06:04am

Lets get serious Killian, I know you are a long term Lizard. But that gives you no special privileges about crapping on the man. This whining is pathetic.

403 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:07:18am

re: #397 MrPaulRevere

Aww, did your delicate sensibilities get bruised?

/yes, I don't like being held under the hammer

404 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:08:19am

re: #401 HoosierHoops

Well, lets just say be careful when you work on ladders. I've been doing it for years and got careless. Think about it Killian. Don't get careless.

405 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:08:44am

re: #402 MrPaulRevere

Lets get serious Killian, I know you are a long term Lizard. But that gives you no special privileges about crapping on the man. This whining is pathetic.

/did I crap on the man?

406 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:12:34am

Look dude, you were pushing it. Everyone saw it. It was disrespectful, bottom line. If you have issues with Charles confine it to e-mail. I was floored at the blatant disrespect to the man in his own house.

407 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:22:49am

re: #406 MrPaulRevere

Look dude, you were pushing it. Everyone saw it. It was disrespectful, bottom line. If you have issues with Charles confine it to e-mail. I was floored at the blatant disrespect to the man in his own house.

/is this garbage?

408 redc1c4  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:27:44am

re: #393 Temujin

red - you just gotta cheer up! It's not the end of the world . . .

/that doesn't happen 'til 2019, when the giant bees come!

ity's just the end of the world as we know it,...............

409 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:29:56am

re: #407 Killian Bundy

You miss the point entirely, sad to say. You were disrespecting Charles, who told you to relax and back back off. No one forces you you to comment on any thread. As someone who always looked for your posts, I don't know what to make of this.

410 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:30:22am

re: #408 redc1c4

ity's just the end of the world as we know it,...............

411 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:32:34am

re: #410 Sharmuta

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

love that song!

412 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:37:01am

re: #409 MrPaulRevere

You miss the point entirely, sad to say. You were disrespecting Charles, who told you to relax and back back off. No one forces you you to comment on any thread. As someone who always looked for your posts, I don't know what to make of this.

It's never my intention to irritate Charles so you're going to have to linky those statements.

/this isn't garbage

413 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:40:36am

Geert Wilders has invited Robert Spencer to his Anti-islam, no racists conference, and look had had the audacity to show his face on that thread:

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

414 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:40:52am

re: #413 Sharmuta

Er- who had

415 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:41:40am

re: #73 Charles

You are beginning to get oIn my last nerve.

/don't fuck with Charles' sensibilities, lesson learned

ok lesson learned Killian...Bygones being bygones...we all should drop it..
So what's up this weekend lizards?

416 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:44:49am

re: #412 Killian Bundy

Lets get serious, at a certain point intentions are like cigar smoke (for the record I believe you did intend to upset him , it was obvious to all who read the thread). Commenter's come and go Killian. Remember that.

417 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:50:13am

re: #416 MrPaulRevere

Lets get serious, at a certain point intentions are like cigar smoke (for the record I believe you did intend to upset him , it was obvious to all who read the thread). Commenter's come and go Killian. Remember that.

Am I not free to disagree in whole or in part?

/I'm not afraid, it's just not garbage

418 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:50:29am

I think that's my cue...

Good day, ALL!™

419 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:50:39am

re: #413 Sharmuta

Fjordman, what can you say? another internet attention pimp.

420 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:53:07am

re: #418 littleoldlady

I think that's my cue...

Good day, ALL!™

good day lol...Well the sun is coming up and its time to run..
i just saw coldplay's new video..ruined the song....
c-ya lizards

421 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:54:56am

Thanks littleoldlady,

You have have to form a soupline someday in the future. I'll always be the first in line for a fruitcup.

422 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:55:02am

re: #419 MrPaulRevere

Fjordman, what can you say? another internet attention pimp.

I'm sure he's pissed Mr. Wilders wont be inviting him to the conference, but I guess that's the down side to being a racist, fascist asshole. Golly- who'da thunk that?!

423 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:55:23am

re: #417 Killian Bundy

Oh man, this is getting really silly Killian. Yeah, you are free to disagree. You are not free to poke a stick in the eye of the blog owner. I hope this clarifies things.

424 tommoon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:56:07am

You may have......

425 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:59:14am

re: #423 MrPaulRevere

Yeah, you are free to disagree. You are not free to poke a stick in the eye of the blog owner.

/you know, I seriously missed where I did that, a linky perhaps?

426 srb1976  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 3:59:37am

Good morning/night! Winding down from work, did I miss anything good?

427 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:03:57am

re: #422 Sharmuta

As someone who was a high school and college debater, I was always taken aback by the low quality of his discourse. Its full of cheap tricks like: Changing the subject, ad hominem's, bloviating, non sequitars etc... He manages to talk a lot but say very little.

428 3 wood  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:19am

re: #296 ibmkeyboard

Question for the stock market lizards.

If McCain gets elected do the markets go up because of his 'world global market views' and less taxes?

Or do they go down because of Obamas protectionism, Universal health care, and more taxes on business?

Will the government controlled Universal health care be good for markets or disaster?

/where to put what little money I have left?

The markets are going to be crappy now for quite a while. We did so much damage to the economy with all the screwing around in Congress that I think the down turn got extended 6 to 9 months.
all the fundamentals I see are pointed down.

What you can do with your money is divide it into 2 sections, the money you will need in less than 5 years, and the money you can lockup for 5 years or more.

The less than 5 year money put in insured CD's and treasuries. The over 5 year money you can put in the market for the long haul. Ultimately McCains policies would be better for the market than Obama's

But we are looking at a significant recession now. We are 13 months into a slowdown period and normally would be looking for an upturn right now. But with all the extra damage to the economy, it is going to be real slow going for a while. It will take another few weeks before the Treasury can start purchasing these toxic securities and the banks can start getting some breathing room on their books. Even then, after going through all this, I doubt that you will see a whole lot of lending activity from the banks for quite a while.

But that also means there are some bargains out there to be snapped up.

429 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:16:15am

re: #427 MrPaulRevere

As someone who was a high school and college debater, I was always taken aback by the low quality of his discourse. Its full of cheap tricks like: Changing the subject, ad hominem's, bloviating, non sequitars etc... He manages to talk a lot but say very little.

That's fjordy for ya.

430 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:18:51am

Mornin' Lizards...

431 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:19:30am

Time to hit the hay...Thanks Sharmuta...and relax Killian, take a walk around the block or something.

432 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:25:57am

re: #431 MrPaulRevere

Good night!

re: #430 scottishbuzzsaw

Morning, Scotti!

433 DistantThunder  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:26:09am

OJ committed another crime because that is who he is - a criminal. He's been assaulting girlfriends for some time now, and who knew what else. God bless those children.

Now we know what else.

RIP Ron and Nicole

434 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:30:21am

re: #432 Sharmuta

Good night!

re: #430 scottishbuzzsaw

Morning, Scotti!

Good morning, sweetie...I'm working my way through the Creationist Textbook thread...and thanks for linking to the F's comment at JW...he's not doing well psychologically, is he? And how are you today?

435 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:34:23am

re: #434 scottishbuzzsaw

I'm good this morning, Scotti. Thanks for asking. Yeah- well, we;ve known there's something off about fjordy for awhile now. I'm still a little stunned he'd have the nerve to show his face on that thread.

436 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:37:33am

Coca-Cola = Spermicide? What. The. Hell?!

437 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:37:37am

re: #435 Sharmuta

I'm good this morning, Scotti. Thanks for asking. Yeah- well, we;ve known there's something off about fjordy for awhile now. I'm still a little stunned he'd have the nerve to show his face on that thread.

I haven't been able to get through much of his writing recently...but that little comment showed some serious paranoia, at the very least...

438 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:43:31am

okay its early, i'm still a little groggy, and haven't had my coffee yet, but i swear i just heard a story on Fox news that the NYT is running a front page story on the Obama/Ayers connection. anyone know about this, or have i woken up on some more sensible parallel universe?

439 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:43:37am

re: #435 Sharmuta

I'm good this morning, Scotti. Thanks for asking. Yeah- well, we;ve known there's something off about fjordy for awhile now. I'm still a little stunned he'd have the nerve to show his face on that thread.

Why Sharmuta? I think that if he showed us anything about himself at all it was thast he was completely lacking in any shame. His attacks on Charles and many other lizards last year showed all the intellectual dishonesty we have come to expect of our own American amoral liberal left.

440 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:12am

re: #437 scottishbuzzsaw

I haven't been able to get through much of his writing recently...but that little comment showed some serious paranoia, at the very least...

I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a plastic baby fork than read fjordy.

441 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:22am

re: #438 alien_mind

okay its early, i'm still a little groggy, and haven't had my coffee yet, but i swear i just heard a story on Fox news that the NYT is running a front page story on the Obama/Ayers connection. anyone know about this, or have i woken up on some more sensible parallel universe?

I'm voting for just woken up on some more sensible parallel universe. The NYT tell the truth? We would be more likely to see Count Dracula sun bathing in the middle of the afternoon on a beach in Miami...

442 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:47am
443 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:48:02am

re: #440 Sharmuta

I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a plastic baby fork than read fjordy.

ROTFLMAO..... Been there, done that, gouging my eyes out with a plastic baby fork would have been much more pleasant.

444 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:49:15am

re: #442 Sharmuta

No- it's true!

Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths

Of course- it's a whitewashing......

445 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:50:43am

re: #444 Sharmuta

Of course- it's a whitewashing......

RACIST! :)

446 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:54:15am

re: #442 Sharmuta

No- it's true!

Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths

It's an old fashioned, nothing to see here, move along, white wash.... Who would have thunk it....

447 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:56:11am

re: #442 Sharmuta

No- it's true!

Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths

yeah i just found it,,was in yesterdays edition? all i can say is wow!
didn't get much coverage coming the day after the debate, and with the bailout bill aftermath.

a sign of things to come?

448 Bobblehead  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:56:27am

You can't step twice into the same river but you can step twice into the same pile of s**t.

Obviously, I need coffee.

449 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:59:42am

oh yeah, could they downplay it much more? I guess they felt his lead is great enough now that by running this they can claim to be "fair and balanced". why now?

look how they describe the connection, almost happenstance;

"Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors"

450 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:30am

re: #449 alien_mind

"Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors"

Not insignificant, in my opinion. People have had lots of babies after far fewer encounters than that.

451 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:42am

The Times left out the bombing of a judge's house while his family was asleep inside.

452 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:07:39am

re: #451 Who Watches the Watchmen?

The Times left out the bombing of a judge's house while his family was asleep inside.

Wait, wait, wait- you mean to tell me the nyt is omitting relevant information from this story? I can't imagine why they would do such a thing.

//////////

453 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:57am

Michigan seems like a dream...
Good morning LGF.

454 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:11:36am

I think I need coffee too. BBIAB.

455 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:12:21am

re: #440 Sharmuta

I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a plastic baby fork than read fjordy.

LOL! Vivid, Shar! Must get more coffee to finish textbook thread...

456 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:13:01am

our mayor daley (chicago's owning walking gaffe machine) on Ayers;
“This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”
you can't make this stuff up.

457 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:14:43am

re: #454 Sharmuta

I think I need coffee too. BBIAB.

GMTA! We're all leaving for coffee...anyone remember the Baileys?

458 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:18:41am

re: #457 scottishbuzzsaw

GMTA! We're all leaving for coffee...anyone remember the Baileys?


How about a change of pace?

459 USA  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:23am

re: #442 Sharmuta

An accidental 1970 explosion in a Greenwich Village town house basement killed three radicals; survivors later said they had been making nail bombs to detonate at a military dance at Fort Dix in New Jersey.

460 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:27am

re: #456 alien_mind

our mayor daley (chicago's owning walking gaffe machine) on Ayers;
“This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”
you can't make this stuff up.

Hey, that's a good idea! I never thought of that. Hmmmmm......

461 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:25am

Bill is my hero

Frank sucks.

462 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:32am

re: #458 Panhandler

How about a change of pace?

Oh, yes please, Panhandler...thank you. How goes the battle with you?

463 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:34am

Good Morning from Chicago, the baseball capital of the World.
The White Sox lose again. They go out to St. Pete & make their baserunners look like statuary. They refuse to invade the opposing catchers space by crossing home.
The Cubs play perfect hosts to the Dodgers by refusiing to catch, hit or pitch.
The Cubs are now claiming that a five ganme set is too short. If that doesn't fly, they will conjure up a nwe supernatural reason for 100 years of futility.
Oh well.

464 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:09am

ABC did a one hour last night with & about the potential First Ladies, hosted by Dianne Sawyer.
I thought that she was really tough on the McCains, on the Obamas not so much.
As an example from the quick blurb on Tony Rezko, you discovered that he is a carbon based life form, who kind of knows Barack & there was some kind of house thing.

465 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:28:21am

re: #456 alien_mind

our mayor daley (chicago's owning walking gaffe machine) on Ayers;
“This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”
you can't make this stuff up

Yes you can;
NYT

466 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:29:19am

re: #462 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh, yes please, Panhandler...thank you. How goes the battle with you?

The battle goes apace. Small victories and minor defeats but the stratigec goal of skewering the Big O remains attainable. I did have a bit of a set back this AM though. Sorry

467 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:29:47am

re: #465 ibmkeyboard

re: #456 alien_mind

our mayor daley (chicago's owning walking gaffe machine) on Ayers;
“This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”
you can't make this stuff up

Yes you can;
NYT

Wheres da evidence, wheres da proof?

468 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:33:48am

re: #456 alien_mind

our mayor daley (chicago's owning walking gaffe machine) on Ayers;
“This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”
you can't make this stuff up.

Methinks Mr Daley is only applying a biblical reference. "Judge not lest ye be judged." If you look at Ayers, then you might look at Rezko, which you might look at Daley.

469 bp sf  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:34:07am

Detroit news radio station WWJ-AM (950) has fired radio personality Karen Dinkins after she wore a Barack Obama T-shirt while covering a presidential rally on Sunday.

[Link: www.freep.com...]

470 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:34:43am

re: #467 opnion

Wheres da evidence, wheres da proof?

We had the evidence;
NYT
picture- takes 1 second.
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

471 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:08am

re: #470 ibmkeyboard

We had the evidence;
NYT
picture- takes 1 second.
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

Yea, well except that to represent the NYT/MSM those should have been three little demons not monkeys....

472 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:17am

re: #469 bp sf

Detroit news radio station WWJ-AM (950) has fired radio personality Karen Dinkins after she wore a Barack Obama T-shirt while covering a presidential rally on Sunday.

[Link: www.freep.com...]

Any relation to New York's beloved mayor David Dinkins?

473 yesandno  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:24am

re: #296 ibmkeyboard

Question for the stock market lizards.

If McCain gets elected do the markets go up because of his 'world global market views' and less taxes?

Or do they go down because of Obamas protectionism, Universal health care, and more taxes on business?

Will the government controlled Universal health care be good for markets or disaster?

/where to put what little money I have left?

Doesn't matter who is elected...expect them to go down. Have to hit bottom before we can recover from all of this crap that has been wrapped in party paper with a really large bow.

However, if Dodd and Frank are dislodged from their "banking" postions and Ms. Pelosi is removed from SOH, I predict a surge in the economy....and certainly in my attitude!

474 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:39:41am

re: #469 bp sf

The money quote:

“I was really kind of surprised this is a news story,” she said, adding that she wouldn’t comment further. “I didn’t anticipate it.”
475 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:39:44am

re: #466 Panhandler

The battle goes apace. Small victories and minor defeats but the stratigec goal of skewering the Big O remains attainable. I did have a bit of a set back this AM though. Sorry


LOL!

476 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:56am

i'll have to try that line on my wife next time;
"Honey, this is 2008. Those mistakes last night are in the past. You have to judge a person by their whole life"

/then duck and cover

477 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:32am

Damn it..... WAKE UP LIZARDS.......

478 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:48:31am

re: #477 doriangrey

Damn it..... WAKE UP LIZARDS.......

I know how. How can I sit back and read if no one is posting

479 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:49:00am

re: #473 yesandno

Doesn't matter who is elected...expect them to go down. Have to hit bottom before we can recover from all of this crap that has been wrapped in party paper with a really large bow.

However, if Dodd and Frank are dislodged from their "banking" positions and Ms. Pelosi is removed from SOH, I predict a surge in the economy....and certainly in my attitude!


Thank you,
I bought a case of mason jars yesterday.
Will bury my money in the back yard.

/several jars of pennies.

480 scottishbuzzsaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:49:46am

Time to run...have a great weekend, All!

481 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:50:13am

Good morning, Lizards.

482 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:50:21am
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin made considerably less money than rival Sen. Joe Biden, but the Palin family gave more to charity in the last two years than Biden has in the last eight combined, according to Palin's tax records released Friday afternoon.
In 2006, the Palins paid $11,944 in taxes on $127,869 in income. In 2007, they paid $24,738 on $166,080.
But in 2006, they donated $4,880 to charity, and in 2007, they donated $3,325.
By contrast, Biden (D-Del.), Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's running mate, has donated a total of $3,690 since 1998 despite his higher Senate salary, according to an analysis posted by National Review.
483 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:50:42am

re: #478 BBev

I know how. How can I sit back and read if no one is posting

Grrrrrr, my med's are messing with me, I cant sleep and I feel like shit. The world is going to hell at 1 milliom miles per hour and I cant even joke about it because my fellow lizards are all sleeping.....

484 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:17am

re: #477 doriangrey

Damn it..... WAKE UP LIZARDS.......

whuh?

485 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:17am

re: #481 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Good morning beautiful.......

486 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:22am

re: #477 doriangrey

Damn it..... WAKE UP LIZARDS.......

Just as I'm getting comfy, some fool cranks up the volume. I got news for you dorian.

/

487 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:37am

I got nothin'.

488 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:52:25am

re: #482 ibmkeyboard

but the Palin family gave more to charity in the last two years than Biden has in the last eight combined, according to Palin's tax records released Friday afternoon.


Biden points his finger at the Bush Administration and says:
"its all your fault"

489 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:52:38am

re: #483 doriangrey

Grrrrrr, my med's are messing with me, I cant sleep and I feel like shit. The world is going to hell at 1 milliom miles per hour and I cant even joke about it because my fellow lizards are all sleeping.....

It's not going to hell so don't worry,

490 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:14am

Good morning all y'all - from a coldish (49 degrees, going up to 76 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

491 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:20am

re: #482 ibmkeyboard

Joe Biden. not willing to be a paytriot?

492 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:23am

re: #486 Panhandler

Just as I'm getting comfy, some fool cranks up the volume. I got news for you dorian.

/

Here kitty kitty.... /reaches for Mandy's clue-by-four.....

493 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:38am

re: #485 doriangrey

Good morning beautiful.......

I'm sorry you're still feeling crummy...

494 yesandno  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:08am

re: #1 pat

OJ is Guilty!

And so is Barney, and Christopher, and Nancy, and Obama, and Hary, and Bill, and Hillary, and Tony, and most all Chicago politicians and of course (fair and balanced) Ted Stevens, and a slew of others!

495 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:12am

re: #489 BBev

It's not going to hell so don't worry,

Let me guess... only because we cant afford the gas to get there..... ;p

496 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:16am

re: #490 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a coldish (49 degrees, going up to 76 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

I'm doing well. I'm off shortly to take a offer on a parcel of land I own.

497 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:48am

re: #493 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm sorry you're still feeling crummy...

Thank you.... Mostly now it's the meds. they upset my stomach and keep me awake, plus make me feel dizzy...

498 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:57am

re: #495 doriangrey

Let me guess... only because we cant afford the gas to get there..... ;p

Thats good. I'll have to remember that

499 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:25am

re: #496 BBev

I'm doing well. I'm off shortly to take a offer on a parcel of land I own.

How much land, and where is it at?

500 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:26am

re: #488 ibmkeyboard

Biden points his finger at the Bush Administration and says:
"its all your fault"

sayitain'tsojoethereyougoagain

501 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:38am

re: #491 alien_mind

Joe Biden. not willing to be a paytriot?


I gave more than him.

re: #490 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a coldish (49 degrees, going up to 76 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

42 - at the foot of Grandfather.

502 Born Again Republican  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:57:13am

Sunrise!

My favorite time of day.

503 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:57:27am

re: #499 doriangrey

How much land, and where is it at?

It's not the size that matters it the amount of town homes you can put on it. It's in New Hampshire.

504 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:57:27am

re: #500 Who Watches the Watchmen?

sayitain'tsojoethereyougoagain

lo.

505 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:30am

re: #490 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a coldish (49 degrees, going up to 76 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Good morning realwest, I'm feeling quite cranky, meds are messing with me. Something I am sadly sure you are all to familiar with. I hope you are feeling well this morning.

506 JacksonTn  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:40am

I am going to the debate in Nashville ....... not inside (I wish) but I do want to go in support of McCain as I know there will be many Obama supporters there. I want to get a sign made. I am asking for suggestions. Probably something with just a few words because when I see a sign with too many words it doesn't hit me as hard. What key words do you think should be highlighted? I am thinking Socialism. Help .......thanks.

507 bp sf  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:59:30am

#472 "Who.."

Good question.

She's a looker; that T shirt had to be at least a 3XXXL:

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

508 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:59:43am

re: #503 BBev

It's not the size that matters it the amount of town homes you can put on it. It's in New Hampshire.

Oh well, I wish you good profit just the same.

509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:17am

Where are we going? And what are we doing in this hand-basket?

510 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:20am

re: #496 BBev Sorry it took so long to answer y'all but my browsers are driving me crazy today!
Good luck with that offer for some land you own!

511 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:35am

re: #507 bp sf

#472 "Who.."

Good question.

She's a looker; that T shirt had to be at least a 3XXXL:

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

The goggles.....They do NOTHING...........

512 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:38am

re: #508 doriangrey

Oh well, I wish you good profit just the same.

Thank you

513 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:38am

re: #500 Who Watches the Watchmen?

sayitain'tsojoethereyougoagain

can I put that on the refrigerator.

We have one 1 Biden
Bambi fan in the family

514 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:01:13am

re: #503 BBev

It's not the size that matters it the amount of town homes you can put on it. It's in New Hampshire.

Why do they call them town houses when they're not built in towns?
Why do they call it "rush hour' when traffic isn't moving?
Why is this making sense to me?

515 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:01:25am

good day fine lizards.

Obama is now reciting TV character wisdom

I just heard some tape of a speech by Sen. Obama explaining how we can't be a Christian nation because it might require imposing biblical standards on everyone, and that would permit slavery in accordance with Leviticus. I found a site that repeats Obama's riff:

516 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:01:34am

re: #499 doriangrey
Hey good morning dorian - are ya feeling better today?

517 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:01:48am

re: #510 realwest

Sorry it took so long to answer y'all but my browsers are driving me crazy today!
Good luck with that offer for some land you own!

My IE7 died a few weeks ago, thank God I have fire fox on this old clunker, I still need to buy a new lap top.

518 yah  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:02:14am

re: #506 JacksonTn

I would keep it real simple, like just McCain/Palin and a symbol like a heart or kiss or the word YES -

519 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:02:42am

re: #501 ibmkeyboard
42 eh? I didn't think it'd be that warm! LOL!
How are you doing today?

520 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:03:10am

re: #514 Panhandler

Why do they call them town houses when they're not built in towns?
Why do they call it "rush hour' when traffic isn't moving?
Why is this making sense to me?

Very good questions, I don't know.

521 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:03:12am

re: #514 Panhandler

Why do they call them town houses when they're not built in towns?
Why do they call it "rush hour' when traffic isn't moving?
Why is this making sense to me?

funny

522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:03:58am

re: #514 Panhandler

Why do we park in a driveway...

523 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:04:34am

re: #477 doriangrey

Damn it..... WAKE UP LIZARDS.......

pipe down - you'll wake the youngins'! ;-)

'g morning d.Grey

524 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:04:41am

re: #505 doriangrey
Sorry to hear that dorian and yes, I do know what you mean by being cranky cause of the meds, why I
HEY YOU GET OUTTA HERE - now where was I? Oh yeah, but other than the meds are you healing up ok?

525 bp sf  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:04:51am

BDS didn't kill this "columnist"; PDS might.

The Column:
L.A. PARKER COLUMN: Palin survives VP debate with a wink and a prayer
[Link: www.trentonian.com...]

My Response:

Dear Mr. Parker

Don't let all your hatred out in one column (Palin survives VP debate with a wink and a prayer); you'll have the next eight years to despise our VP.

Care to write about our victory over Hezbollah in Lebanon? Or perhaps you and Joe Biden can hit a Home Depot and compare strategies.

May the best man win in November.

Sincerely
xxxxx

526 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:05:40am

re: #482 ibmkeyboard

By contrast, Biden (D-Del.), Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's running mate, has donated a total of $3,690 since 1998 despite his higher Senate salary, according to an analysis posted by National Review.

OMG. What a cheapass. What is that, a dollar a day to charity? Geesh. Thats hard to imagine. Someone with that much power and income giving all of one dollar a day to charity over the course of ten years.

I wonder how much he spent on those ridiculous looking hair plugs.

527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:06:05am

So sad for Mr. Simpson. But, on the bright side; he has a better chance of finding Nichole and Ron's murderer in a prison than on a golf course.

528 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:06:12am

re: #519 realwest

42 eh? I didn't think it'd be that warm! LOL!
How are you doing today?

great,
good,
have been better.

Our high school football team lost homecoming last nite.
47-28
Damn-
if you pick a team for homecoming at least pick somebody you can beat.

529 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:06:40am

re: #514 Panhandler

Why do they call them town houses when they're not built in towns?
Why do they call it "rush hour' when traffic isn't moving?
Why is this making sense to me?

But of course! Intuitively obvious to most casual observer.

530 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:06:43am

re: #516 realwest

Hey good morning dorian - are ya feeling better today?

Yes and no. In other words its hard to tell. My med's make my stomach hurt keep me awake and make me dizzy. My mouth doesnt hurt quite so much, but it's hard to chew. Damn it's going to be a bitch learning to eat all over again... To make matters worse.... I cant drink beer while taking my meds, so let them wear off so I can have a beer, then my have to leave my dentures out. wait til the beer has had plenty of time to wear off and take more meds. Man this really sucks....

531 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:06:58am

re: #517 BBev
Huh, I've got IE 6, Maxthon and FF 2 and they are all as cranky as I am today!
GAH! I don't want to think about it - GOT A LOT OF CHORES TO DO TODAY too. Damnit.
Well I wish you luck with FireFox - I'm gonna try to get the latest version of Maxthon and download it.

532 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:07:02am

re: #528 ibmkeyboard

great,
good,
have been better.

Our high school football team lost homecoming last nite.
47-28
Damn-
if you pick a team for homecoming at least pick somebody you can beat.

Oh, so true! We lost our homecoming by 1 point last week...

533 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:43am

re: #531 realwest

Huh, I've got IE 6, Maxthon and FF 2 and they are all as cranky as I am today!
GAH! I don't want to think about it - GOT A LOT OF CHORES TO DO TODAY too. Damnit.
Well I wish you luck with FireFox - I'm gonna try to get the latest version of Maxthon and download it.

Is Maxthon a free down load? and is it better then Fire Fox?

534 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:49am

re: #530 doriangrey

Dorian, I like beer as much as the next guy... but when I am skipping medications, so I can have a beer....

Dude, just do without a beer!

535 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:09:22am

re: #527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian ROFL! Well you're hitting 'em pretty good today!
How are ya my friend?

536 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:09:38am

re: #514 Panhandler

Why do they call them town houses when they're not built in towns?
Why do they call it "rush hour' when traffic isn't moving?
Why is this making sense to me?

Carlin, is that you? I could have sworn you were dead.

537 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:09:52am

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we park in a driveway...

Why do we drive on a parkway?

538 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:10:50am

re: #537 Sharmuta

Why do we drive on a parkway?

If it's a "freeway", why are there speed limits?

539 3 wood  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:10:59am

re: #510 realwest

Good morning real.

Sent you an early morning email.

540 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:11:17am

re: #534 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dorian, I like beer as much as the next guy... but when I am skipping medications, so I can have a beer....

Dude, just do without a beer!

Grrrrr..... I had one beer last night..... First one all week.... Besides the med's make me sick....

541 JacksonTn  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:11:32am

How can Obama say he never worked for ACORN?

[Link: sweetness-light.com...]

His website is nothing but lies.

542 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:11:56am

re: #537 Sharmuta

Why do we drive on a parkway?

Why do we park in a driveway?

543 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:11:56am

re: #535 realwest

Fine as a frog hair (split three ways).

544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:12:32am

re: #540 doriangrey

Damn! Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.

545 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:12:42am

re: #541 JacksonTn

How can Obama say he never worked for ACORN?

[Link: sweetness-light.com...]

His website is nothing but lies.

If democrats only told the truth, then they would never say anything.....

546 Panhandler  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:13:10am

re: #543 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fine as a frog hair (split three ways).

Is that anywhere close to an "RCH"?

547 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:13:44am

re: #545 doriangrey

If democrats only told the truth, then they would never say anything.....

If Obama ever had an original thought it would die of loneliness.

548 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:13:56am

re: #544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Damn! Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.

Sigh..... I used to think that was a funny even if cynical old saying.... Now well not so much.....

549 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:14:07am

re: #528 ibmkeyboard
"if you pick a team for homecoming at least pick somebody you can beat." Gah, worse would be that the team that beat 'em WAS the team they thought they could beat!
Is it me or is Oct 3rd a tad early for homecoming (have been out of touch with Highschool football for a long time)?

550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:14:35am

I'm going to have to run. By run, I mean, get in the shower, get ready and get in my car to go to work. I don't run.

BTW, I seem to have mis-placed $700,000,000,000.00. Anybody seen my wallet?

551 yah  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:14:46am

re: #515 FrogMarch


I just heard some tape of a speech by Sen. Obama explaining how we can't be a Christian nation because it might require imposing biblical standards on everyone, and that would permit slavery in accordance with Leviticus. I found a site that repeats Obama's riff:

Obama playing the race card.

552 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:03am

re: #547 Mich-again

Look who had the audacity to show his face on a thread about Mr. Wilders non-racist anti-jihad conference:

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

553 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:22am

re: #549 realwest

"if you pick a team for homecoming at least pick somebody you can beat." Gah, worse would be that the team that beat 'em WAS the team they thought they could beat!
Is it me or is Oct 3rd a tad early for homecoming (have been out of touch with Highschool football for a long time)?

{realwest}

Our homecoming was last week. I have NO idea how they determine which game of the season is Homecoming.

554 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:32am

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm going to have to run. By run, I mean, get in the shower, get ready and get in my car to go to work. I don't run.

BTW, I seem to have mis-placed $700,000,000,000.00. Anybody seen my wallet?

Barney Franks has it..... Dude.... You are soooo screwed.......

555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:16:09am

HOLY SHIT! 70,000,000 people watched the debates! WOW!

556 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:17:10am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

HOLY SHIT! 70,000,000 people watched the debates! WOW!

And only 100 of them were watching it to see Joe Biden..... And he had to pay them to watch it....

557 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:17:59am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

HOLY SHIT! 70,000,000 people watched the debates! WOW!

Of course- the American people are fascinated with Sarah Palin, even if they don't want to admit it.

558 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:18:33am

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW, I seem to have mis-placed $700,000,000,000.00. Anybody seen my wallet?

You would need all the money in 46,235,139 Monopoly games to add up to $700B.

559 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:19:18am

re: #557 Sharmuta

Of course- the American people are fascinated with Sarah Palin, even if they don't want to admit it.

ROTFLMAO..... When 70 million people watch something that's about as much of an admitting of something as you can get....

560 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:19:42am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

A bright and shiny Saturday morning in the valley with an chilly Autumn breeze giving me goosebumps. Time to turn on the heat dogdangit.

What snoo?

561 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:20:29am

re: #530 doriangrey
Hey, y'all ought to call your doctor NOW (yeah I know it's Saturday and early where you are too but he should have an emergency number or pager or somesuch) tell him about it and ask him to proscribe a drug called Oomapa something or other, or go to the drug store and ask for OTC Prevacid (sp) for your stomach. When I had to take steroids cause of my shingles over a year ago, my doc prescribed that for me (then I found out it's the same thing as the Over The Counter Prevacid or Pervacid). Tell Pharmacist what you're taking and make sure it's ok for you to take - it'll calm your stomach down within 24 hours and keep it calmed down, too!

562 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:20:43am

re: #560 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪


What snoo?

Good morning Miss Trixie, I dont know.... what's snoo with you?

563 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:21:49am

re: #561 realwest

Hey, y'all ought to call your doctor NOW (yeah I know it's Saturday and early where you are too but he should have an emergency number or pager or somesuch) tell him about it and ask him to proscribe a drug called Oomapa something or other, or go to the drug store and ask for OTC Prevacid (sp) for your stomach. When I had to take steroids cause of my shingles over a year ago, my doc prescribed that for me (then I found out it's the same thing as the Over The Counter Prevacid or Pervacid). Tell Pharmacist what you're taking and make sure it's ok for you to take - it'll calm your stomach down within 24 hours and keep it calmed down, too!

Will do, thanks....

564 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:22:21am

re: #533 BBev
I don't know about free - it came with my older computer (which was built for me by an old LGFer nic named reaganite) and he had installed it for me. Don't have enough experience with FF2 except to say I hate it!

565 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:22:35am

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why do we park in a driveway...

Why do we call it a bicycle?
and not call a Harley a motoricycle.
I got into trouble when I asked the teacher that one.

566 akak  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:22:38am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

HOLY SHIT! 70,000,000 people watched the debates! WOW!


Incredible! It wasn't very good.

567 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:23:19am

Good morning all! I just wanted to pop in and crow about OJ's conviction (how fitting that it happened on the 13th anniversary of his aquittal!), Tell you all that it's a beautiful morning here in the Houston area and just say hi!

In a few minutes I'm going to start being a mean mommy, by making my kids actually clean up their rooms and help me with some other chores.

568 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:23:23am

re: #564 realwest

I don't know about free - it came with my older computer (which was built for me by an old LGFer nic named reaganite) and he had installed it for me. Don't have enough experience with FF2 except to say I hate it!

I just down loaded it and am now checkiing it out

569 slapleather  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:23:46am

re: #506 JacksonTn

McCain/Palin
You Betcha!

570 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:23:53am

Well, Mac might take the gloves off.

I'll believe that when I see it... but the Dems (pure as the driven "it isn't her baby" astroturf snow) are going to counter with Keating 5.

Perhaps they weren't paying attention when the prosecutor (forget the name), lifelong Dem announced earlier this year that Mac was added to the list being investigated because the Dems on the committee didn't want it to look like only Dems were guilty of wrongdoing... that he was very innocent and was forced to apologize for his actions because of the dirt thrown on him.

Oh that's right, facts don't matter. I forgot.

571 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:23:56am

{dorian} Sorry to hear about your dental woes and I hope you're over the worst, luv.

What snoo with me? Not too much. A few chores to do, a little shopping and a later we'll terrorize the 'hood. Meh. Such a complicated life I lead, no? :D

{realwest} Good morning sinshine! *smoochie* *huggles* How are you and your mom?

572 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:24:47am
573 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:24:50am

re: #557 Sharmuta

Of course- the American people are fascinated with Sarah Palin, even if they don't want to admit it.

She is the brightest star in this election cycle without a doubt. Heck, I think the GOP's chances might even be better right now if she were at the top of the ticket. McCain just doesn't create much enthusiasm.

574 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:25:03am

re: #539 3 wood
Good morning my friend - and that's ANOTHER thing, my damned earthlink e-mail system is crank again - can't send or receive and I'd have to get off LGF completely to get to Web Mail - and I gotta leave soon anyway just to get STARTED on my chores.
Man I done ate some cranky flakes this morning!

Is it important? Cuase if it is I'll get off LGF and see what I can do with earthlink or "web mail" whatever the hell that is! LOL!

575 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:25:09am

Your text to link...re: #530 doriangrey

Yes and no. In other words its hard to tell. My med's make my stomach hurt keep me awake and make me dizzy. My mouth doesnt hurt quite so much, but it's hard to chew. Damn it's going to be a bitch learning to eat all over again... To make matters worse.... I cant drink beer while taking my meds, so let them wear off so I can have a beer, then my have to leave my dentures out. wait til the beer has had plenty of time to wear off and take more meds. Man this really sucks....

Hey dorian.
Man do you ever sound ugly.
May I suggest it's not worth all that hassle for one beer? If it's gonna be that much trouble then you should definitely have at least 24...and make'em premium Canadian beers, not that cheap piss you folks call beer down there.
How about a two-four of what I assume is
Sarah's favourite?

576 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:25:18am

re: #564 realwest

I don't know about free - it came with my older computer (which was built for me by an old LGFer nic named reaganite) and he had installed it for me. Don't have enough experience with FF2 except to say I hate it!

Hmmm, I have never had one single problem with any version of FF. Of course I also have an old 1.2 Ghz AMD Athlon which seems about a rock solid as any machine I have ever seen, so that could be it also....

577 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:27:23am

re: #553 goddessoftheclassroomGood morning {goddess} yeah, that's how I remember our HS homecoming games, too.
Changed when I got to college though - used to get our butts kicked regularly on Homecoming Day! LOL!
How are you this fine morning?

578 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:27:26am

re: #564 realwest

an old LGFer nic named reaganite

Now there is a blast from the past.

579 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:27:28am

Dorian,

Hope it feels better soon.

580 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:28:08am

re: #549 realwest

"if you pick a team for homecoming at least pick somebody you can beat." Gah, worse would be that the team that beat 'em WAS the team they thought they could beat!


I think the coach watched too many films.

3 games left.

581 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:29:58am

re: #560 {Miss Trixie} good morning to you gorgeous! And here's a good morning *Smoooch* to ya too!
How are ya today? How's Lil Miss doing?

582 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:30:25am

re: #573 Mich-again

She is the brightest star in this election cycle without a doubt. Heck, I think the GOP's chances might even be better right now if she were at the top of the ticket. McCain just doesn't create much enthusiasm.

Sarah's a game changer.

583 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:30:52am

re: #575 sparrowlake

Your text to link...

Hey dorian.
Man do you ever sound ugly.
May I suggest it's not worth all that hassle for one beer? If it's gonna be that much trouble then you should definitely have at least 24...and make'em premium Canadian beers, not that cheap piss you folks call beer down there.
How about a two-four of what I assume is
Sarah's favourite?

ROTFLMAO.............The though had crossed my mind, however that's just a tad more beer than I feel comfortable drinking in one sitting even when I'm not taking medication.... Mostly I'm just a one or two beer's at a time kind of guy. Except when I am BBQ'ing, which for obvious reasons is temporarily out of the question... (which I might add is pissing me off no end)....

584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:31:10am

re: #566 akak

I've always loved your nic.

585 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:31:36am

re: #568 BBev
AHA! I reckon it was free then, heh?! If you'd just quit IE you'd find it easier to use than you will now that you're coming to it from FF.

586 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:32:09am

re: #575 sparrowlake

not that cheap piss you folks call beer down there.

I like my union-made American macro brew just fine. Nothing like a cold Bud and a dip of long cut.

When Canadian brewery workers start paying taxes to help buy ammunition for the US Marines maybe I'll switch.

587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:32:42am

TFK is our E.F. Hutton.

588 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:34:03am

re: #575 sparrowlake
NOOO - he ought not to be drinking while he's taking those narcotic pain killers! Not even one crummy beer, dorian - are y'all listening to me?!

589 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:34:09am

re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think he is more like T. S. Eliot.

590 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:34:12am

re: #565 ibmkeyboard

Why do we call it a bicycle?
and not call a Harley a motoricycle.
I got into trouble when I asked the teacher that one.

That's the kind of question I LOVE my students to ask!

/do you still want an answer?

591 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:34:53am

Bye kids. Gotta go look for my $700,000,000,000.00s.

If I can't find it, I'm gonna have to make some money, quick!

592 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:35:05am

re: #586 Mich-again

I like my union-made American macro brew just fine. Nothing like a cold Bud and a dip of long cut.

When Canadian brewery workers start paying taxes to help buy ammunition for the US Marines maybe I'll switch.

I'm pretty partial to my American Micro-brews. But I do have to admit that I am looking forward to trying bud's new Ale.

593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:35:24am

re: #589 Mich-again

I think he is more like T. S. Eliot.

Yeah. But when TFK speaks....

594 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:35:34am

re: #578 Mich-again
Morning Mich - well given his former occupation I'd rather you have said something other than "there's a blast from the past" LOL!
How are you doing today?!

595 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:35:54am

re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

TFK is our E.F. Hutton.

he also sees money cults the old fashioned way.

596 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:36:06am

re: #592 doriangrey

I'm pretty partial to my American Micro-brews. But I do have to admit that I am looking forward to trying bud's new Ale.

I like Coor's Blue Moon. And, dang it! Gotta go!

597 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:37:02am

Morning.

Cloudy here, 50, rain this afternoon, through Monday, Sunday night in the high 30's (althought we did have nighttime 30's for a few nights in Aug.), When the season change in Colorado, it does it right on schedule.

Walter in Golden, Co.

598 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:37:29am

re: #577 realwest

Good morning {goddess} yeah, that's how I remember our HS homecoming games, too.
Changed when I got to college though - used to get our butts kicked regularly on Homecoming Day! LOL!
How are you this fine morning?

I'm doing pretty well over all, but I'm mourning the passing of our dog.

She was obviously not well Thursday after school, so I took her to the vet yesterday morning. She had lymphoma, and we had to put her to sleep yesterday afternoon. I'm so proud of my boys--they both stayed with her as she slipped away. I sat with my mom in the waiting room.

She was a terrific dog (and I'm not a dog person!). I think I'm also mourning all the changes of the past 10 years we had her.

599 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:37:32am

re: #590 goddessoftheclassroom

That's the kind of question I LOVE my students to ask!

/do you still want an answer?

please do?
she never did explain.

just beat my hand with a ruler.
embarrassing for an 18 year old.

600 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:37:57am

re: #588 realwest

NOOO - he ought not to be drinking while he's taking those narcotic pain killers! Not even one crummy beer, dorian - are y'all listening to me?!

Sigh.................Yes I am listening, not liking what I am hearing, but I am listening, and even agree. Which is why I dont drink when I have taken any medication. I waited a good 12 hours yesterday before having one single messily beer.

601 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:38:18am

re: #583 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.............The though had crossed my mind, however that's just a tad more beer than I feel comfortable drinking in one sitting even when I'm not taking medication.... Mostly I'm just a one or two beer's at a time kind of guy. Except when I am BBQ'ing, which for obvious reasons is temporarily out of the question... (which I might add is pissing me off no end)....

Uh, OK, sorry....I forgot that you folks down there don't drink two-fours like we do up here. Hell, even my goldfish has a two-four on the weekend!

Seriously though, you take real good care of yourself.

602 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:38:34am
603 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:39:43am

re: #598 goddessoftheclassroom Ah geez {goddess} I'm so sorry to hear that. Gee I sure hope you and yours are holding up ok - sympathies and condolences on your loss sweetie. I really am sorry to hear that news.

604 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:39:53am

re: #594 realwest

You know that reference to explosives must have been a subconscious thing. Ha. Doing OK here. Had to watch the kids football team get walloped again last night. But win or lose its still fun just being a part of the Friday night HS football scene.
How you feeling these days?

605 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:39:54am

Testing = Alpenglow

606 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:40:32am

re: #600 doriangrey

Sigh.................Yes I am listening, not liking what I am hearing, but I am listening, and even agree. Which is why I dont drink when I have taken any medication. I waited a good 12 hours yesterday before having one single messily beer.

Ok, I'm not trying to be your mom, but drinking after all those extractions isn't any good either. And if you smoke, stop, at least for a week. I was doing both when I got my uppers pulled, and I had to go back TWICE to stop the bleeding, 'cause I was causing the problem by drinking and SUCKING on butts.

607 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:40:51am

re: #605 FrogMarch

Testing = Alpenglow

What a pretty little hill.... ;)

608 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:41:10am

re: #585 realwest

AHA! I reckon it was free then, heh?! If you'd just quit IE you'd find it easier to use than you will now that you're coming to it from FF.

My system froze up,

609 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:41:38am

Hey 3 Wood - are you still out here? Should I get outta LGF and go check my "web mail"?

610 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:41:44am

re: #506 JacksonTn

Fight Washington Corruption
McCain/Palin

611 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:42:28am
612 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:43:41am

re: #604 Mich-again
I'm feeling a lot more stressed than I should - I'm damned cold and I have to hurry up and get ready to go do those crummy chores soon!
And I've felt better physically too.
How are you doing today?

613 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:44:12am

re: #470 ibmkeyboard

We had the evidence;
NYT
picture- takes 1 second.
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

Dat was a parody on da original mare

614 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:44:19am

re: #606 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I'm not trying to be your mom, but drinking after all those extractions isn't any good either. And if you smoke, stop, at least for a week. I was doing both when I got my uppers pulled, and I had to go back TWICE to stop the bleeding, 'cause I was causing the problem by drinking and SUCKING on butts.

The bleeding stopped Wednesday, seen my dentist twice since then, he say's I'm healing up nicely... I usually heal pretty fast. Not really a whole lot of pain anymore either. Mostly the only pain now is where the stitches come between my gum's and dentures. The stitches are suppose to dissolve in a few more days....

615 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:44:48am

re: #608 BBev
Re-boot and try again - that's the extent of my tech knowledge!
It really is a good, very easy to use browser!

616 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:45:52am

re: #581 realwest

good morning to you gorgeous! And here's a good morning *Smoooch* to ya too!
How are ya today? How's Lil Miss doing?

I'm just fine although a little nervous.
.
.
.

I have a date tonight. =O

617 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:45:56am

re: #615 realwest

Re-boot and try again - that's the extent of my tech knowledge!
It really is a good, very easy to use browser!

Awww, but does it have an auto-spell checker function?

618 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:46:34am

re: #616 Miss Trixie

I'm just fine although a little nervous.
.
.
.

I have a date tonight. =O

Congratulations...... Knock him dead.....

619 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:46:37am

At the official John McCain website:

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]

You can transport your E-mail contacts and then send anyone you choose a personal e-mail explaining why you are endorsing John McCain on Nov. 4th and encouraging them to do so as well.

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...] ... eWord.aspx

Here's the E-mail I just sent to about 30 different people I know - I'm making this public use, so you can put them into your own words if you wish and send the letter to all your friends.

Quote:
I know you haven't heard from me lately, and I'm sorry about that.

I'm contacting you now because I've come to realize lately from the way things have been going in this country with $4 a gallon gas and now this $700 billion dollar bailout that's going to cost every man, woman and child in America that it's time for ordinary Americans to send a powerful message to Washington that their cozy little business as usual politics have to come to an end.

There's a Presidential election coming up in about 30 days. On November 4th we're all going to be asked to choose between two very different ideas about where this country should go from here.

On the one side we have Barack Obama, Harvard Law Grad, community activist, Senator from Illinois, still in his first term in Congress. Running with him is Joe Biden, Senator from Delaware and a 35 year Washington insider.

I know a lot of people are high on Obama right now. He does give a great speech. But I have looked at his resume and it is quite thin. He is campaigning as an advocate of change and reform.

Only as I study his past in the Senate and the Illinois State Legislature, I can't find any significant change or reform on this gentleman's back trail.

Instead, I find something that looks like a consummate Chicago Machine politician.

I would hope that a candidate who is running on a promise of change would have an actual record of change behind him, but it just doesn't seem to be there.

I've looked into Biden too, and he's an awfully likeable guy. But he also doesn't seem to have any record of change or reform behind him. 35 years in the Senate, if he were a reformer there would be some record of it.

Running against these gentleman we have John McCain and Sarah Palin.

The first thing I'd like you to remember about John McCain is that he's a genuine war hero. Doesn't that seem kind of strange now after the totally weird emphasis put on military experience during the 2004 election between Bush and Kerry? You know, the whole 'Hey there's a war on, let's see who'd be the best Commander In Chief by comparing war records!' schtick.

Whatever you may have thought about John Kerry's war service, the fact is it was brief (3 months) and it was controversial (almost 85% of the men who served with him in Vietnam made up the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth that insisted he wasn't fit to be Commander In Chief if he was basing his campaign on what he did in Vietnam - a sobering thought), and it was immediately followed by him launching a political career based on calling American troops war criminals.

I'm sure like many of you I rolled my eyes every time during the 2004 elections whenever John Kerry's war service came up. Then somehow, President Bush's own military service in the Texas Air National Guard became an issue, even though Bush hadn't brought it up and wasn't running based on his military service. Incredibly, most of the 2004 election coverage seemed locked into the past. You'd think they'd be arguing about what had happened over the previous four years, or what should happen over the next 4 years; instead, bizarrely, it revolved around what had or had not happened in Vietnam and in Texas 40 years past.

I think historians are gonna look back at that 2004 election as one of the most bizarre election cycles in American history.

You know Republicans don't make that big a deal of it when they run a real war hero. I'll prove it.

620 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:47:02am

re: #506 JacksonTn

I am going to the debate in Nashville ....... not inside (I wish) but I do want to go in support of McCain as I know there will be many Obama supporters there. I want to get a sign made. I am asking for suggestions. Probably something with just a few words because when I see a sign with too many words it doesn't hit me as hard. What key words do you think should be highlighted? I am thinking Socialism. Help .......thanks.

Loved the recent quip by Palin that the Dems had become the party of surrender, socialism and sub-prime mortgages.

621 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:47:03am

re: #599 ibmkeyboard

please do?
she never did explain.

just beat my hand with a ruler.
embarrassing for an 18 year old.

"bicycle" literally means "two wheels." It was invented in the 19th century, really part of the Industrial Revolution.

"motorcycle" literally means "motorized wheel," derived from the earlier word.

622 nonic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:47:23am

I don’t feel good at all about the election, because I believe Obama will very likely win — and I believe that will be the worst possible thing that could happen to the United States, to Israel, to Europe, and to the world. And if he has a Dem Congress to enact his "hope" and "change" — as he apparently will — then I believe we will have the dubious privilege of witnessing the beginning of the end of American culture, values, and pride.

Furthermore, an Obama win, along with the recent bailout and the further restructuring that will be required as a result of the bailout will destroy our economy and make us pawns for rising powers, none grateful or sympathetic to the United States, or particularly interested in human dignity and freedom.

I also believe that, domestically, black grievance politics will ramp up dramatically, as people taught that they have massive claims against whites will feel empowered to start collecting, big time.

Not to mention that we will have to live with the spectacle of Michelle Obama living her childhood dream of being Jackie O with a J.D. (If Hillary and Oprah had a love child, it would be Michelle Obama.)

The world is coming to an end. At least, the world as we know it. Western civilization was just too successful. We invented the technology and the medicine. Greco-Judeo-Christian civilization was just too humane. We saved the backward third-world cultures from high maternal and infant mortality and fed them. And now we’ve got to deal with the too many of them.

An Obama win will just bring the end that much closer that much sooner. No, no, no, not because he is putatively "black" (which is one of his most obvious lies), but because he is Marxist, anti-American, grotesquely narcissistic, and completely without any compunction at all about how he achieves his goals.

I don’t know. I guess some people think that children singing praises ("Barack Loves Me, This I Know"), and black teenage males in military duds marching and shouting Obama slogans, and French dress designers (an already unstable bunch) silk-screening The One’s face on clothes for the Paris cat-walk, and publicly paid prosecutors targeting as criminal what they interpret as "misleading" information or opinions about Obama, or known terrorist groups (the jihad kind) endorsing their favored candidate (and it’s not McCain) — some people think all this is a sign of healthy enthusiasm. Or maybe quirky but harmless. Or maybe funny. Or maybe they don’t notice.

I think it’s downright scary. And sad.

623 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:47:26am

The Republicans ran 3 genuine dyed-in-the-wool war heroes for President in the last 16 years. Can you name them all? Take a minute to think about it.

Bob Dole? That's right. In 1996 Bob Dole ran against Clinton and lost. If you've ever seen Senator Dole from the front you'll notice he's always got his right arm tucked into his pocket. He lost the use of that arm in northern Italy in World War II when he was hit in the back by machine gun fire.

Now think about this for minute. When Bob Dole was running against Bill Clinton............yes, THAT Bill Clinton.......how many times on the campaign trail did Dole brag about being wounded in combat? If you remember a single time you have a better memory than me.

Let's move on to the second war hero the Republicans have run in the last 16 years. George H. W. Bush. That's right, our current President's father.

See, he was a pilot in the Pacific theater in WWII and he was shot down and narrowly escaped capture by the enemy in an area where other captured American flyers were tortured and killed by the Japanese. You can even read about that in the book Flyboys, written by the same guy who wrote Flag of Our Fathers.

Yet when running against Bill Clinton, I can't remember a single time Bush tried to draw a contrast between himself as a war hero and a man who had dodged the draft and wrote a letter in which he claimed he 'loathed the military'.

Why didn't they? Why didn't Bob Dole and George H.W. Bush emphasize their military service when running against a man who would defeat them both?

It's simple. In their mind they did their duty. What man of honor brags about doing his duty?

So Bob Dole and George H.W. Bush just focused on policy; they didn't spend any time at all during their campaigns trying to draw contrasts between themselves and Bill Clinton based on military service.

Now John McCain is running on the Republican ticket, the 3rd war hero in 16 years. Everybody's heard the story. Shot down over Hanoi, spent 5 1/2 years in captivity, tortured, refused early release, tortured some more, then broken, then found the courage to begin resisting again. They talked about it a lot at the Republican National Convention because it is indeed a compelling story.

But notice one thing. Even during the RNC McCain NEVER directly contrasted his military service and the sufferings he underwent for his country to Obama. Not even one time. And he certainly hasn't done it on the campaign trail. When he discusses his opponent in the race he talks about Obama's record, his statements, his plans for the country.

McCain could get some political mileage by reminding people he was a naval aviator for many years, he could dwell on his military service and pointedly contrasting that with a career political activist/politician. But he won't do that any more than Bob Dole or George H.W. Bush would have.

Just bear in mind that McCain as a real war hero REFUSES to run as one. (Maybe Kerry should have tried this?) He's running on something else.

What's he running on?

He's running on his record of 26 years in the United States Congress.

In his 26 years of being in Congress, John McCain has demonstrated 2 things about himself.

First, he's his own man. It's no accident that when people think of the words 'Maverick' and 'Senator', John McCain is the first name that comes to mind.

Is he a Conservative? Definitely. He has an 82.3 Lifetime Voting Rating from the American Conservative Union:

[Link: www.acuratings.org...]

But is he a guy that will march in lockstep with his party no matter which direction it's going in? Hardly.

McCain's made the news PLENTY of times the past 8 years in issues he's disagreed with President Bush and the GOP leadership. On taxes, on the Iraq War, on Immigration, on Global Warming, etc.

John McCain is a true maverick. He's going to do what he thinks is right and if he thinks his party is wrong, he's going to SAY so.

And believe me, he has a track record of doing exactly THAT since he's been in Congress.

624 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:47:28am

re: #616 Miss Trixie
WHADDYA MEAN A "DATE"?! I thought you were saving yourself for me! uh, no wait, that's not right.

Well anyway, I hope you have a GREAT DAY and an even GREATER DATE cause you sure deserve it gorgeous! *smoooch* and hugs to you!

625 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:48:32am

ohn McCain actually took a stand against his hero, Ronald Reagan, when Reagan insisted on putting American Marines in Beirut. McCain thought that was a big mistake and he said so, publicly. Tragically, the bombing of the Marine Barracks that killed 240 American troops proved McCain to be right.

We can examine John McCain's record of standing up to his own party's leadership.

We can examine his running mate, Sarah Palin's record of standing up to her party's leadership. She actually got her start in politics by resigning from a key executive position in the Alaskan oil industry in protest after her whistleblowing on corruption was ignored. Corruption involving REPUBLICAN officials, her OWN party.

In fact, the guy she was blowing the whistle on was the Alaskan GOP PARTY CHAIRMAN. When the Republican Governor ignored her complaint, she ran for Governor of Alaska against him, and despite being heavily outspent, she beat him.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

So what have we seen so far?

The Republican ticket has two people on it who are completely unafraid to TAKE ON THEIR OWN PARTY if that's what they have to do to get things done. Far from being Machine Politicians who will go along to get along and march in lockstep with whatever drumbeat the party leadership is dictating, they both march to their own inner beat.

What else do we know about about McCain? And Palin for that matter?

Secondly, not only are they both mavericks, they both have instituted real reform and change in their careers.

The first thing Palin did after becoming Governor of Alaska was break up a monopoly on Oil and Gas resources that the Big Oil companies had set up with the Good Ol' Boy Political Network that had ruled the roost in Alaska for decades.

McCain earned his stripes in the Congress as a staunch proponent against wasteful pork-barrel spending and earmarks. Many Senators try to ensure their re-election by 'earmarking' pork projects for their State - in effect buying themselves votes using tax payer's dollars.

Government watchdog groups like 'Citizens Against Government Waste' rate McCain as one of the best members of Congress when it comes to rejecting wasting the taxpayer's money:

[Link: councilfor.cagw.org...] ... docID=3282

(You can find McCain's ratings on page 6)

McCain hasn't just railed against earmarks and pork-barrel projects, he's written legislation to try to eliminate them.

He has a 25 year legislative record of trying to get government spending under control:

[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...] ... tes_Senate

So on the Republican ticket we have two mavericks who have records of reform behind them.

But wait a second.

What about the Democratic ticket?

Isn't the entire platform of the Obama/Biden ticket Reform and Change?

Wouldn't it then make sense to see just how much reform and change Obama has behind him in the years he's been in public service?

And here's where we hit a snag.

THERE ISN'T ANY RECORD OF CHANGE OR REFORM IN OBAMA'S PAST.

See, Obama has to run on a PROMISE of HOPE and CHANGE and REFORM to come if he's elected since he can't demonstrate any ACTUAL REFORM AND CHANGE that he personally did since entered Congress.

He's actually running on his POTENTIAL.

He's such an AMAZING PERSON that even though he has no record of reform or change behind him, once he's ushered into the Oval Office he's going to unleash reform on Washington that he somehow couldn't bring to Illinois in 7 years in the State Legislature and 2 1/2 years in the Senate.

Any change and reform brought to Washington by the next administration is going to have to do so through bipartisan support. It's going to have to be done by people who can demonstrate they CAN reach across the aisle to the other side and work out differences to move things forward.

McCain has done this repeatedly throughout his career. So has Palin; she actually appointed Democrats and Independents to positions of power in Alaskan government once she was elected.

626 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:48:35am

re: #621 goddessoftheclassroom

"bicycle" literally means "two wheels." It was invented in the 19th century, really part of the Industrial Revolution.

"motorcycle" literally means "motorized wheel," derived from the earlier word.

ROTFLMAO..... Our academic cuttie pie to the rescue..... MHAW.....

627 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:48:37am

This is for Real or any Lizard Lawyer. It looks to me like the election is being stolen in Ohio.
I know that the court refused injuctive relief to stop the early voting.
I believe that there was a motion to segregate these votes for future scrutiny. Am I right & what did the court rule?

628 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:48:55am

re: #618 doriangrey

Congratulations...... Knock him dead.....

I'll do my best but he's 6'3" and I'm only 5'2" - should be interesting to say the least. :D

629 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:48:57am

One has to scour Obama's record in vain trying to find concrete examples of him reaching out to Republicans and demonstrating a knack for bipartisanship.

What it comes down to is a guy who claims he can POTENTIALLY be a reformer............even though he's never reformed anything........and that he can POTENTIALLY buck his own party leadership and reach across the aisle to get things done.......even though he has no record of ever having done it...........who claims he can POTENTIALLY change the political culture and spending habits of Washington when he has no record of having done so thus far in his political career.........

OR

a guy who has ACTUALLY been a reformer.......and has proved it many times in his career........who has ACTUALLY bucked his own party leadership to build bipartisan support.....and who has a record behind him of ACTUALLY speaking and acting out to try to change the culture and spending habits of Washington.

This election calls for us to choose between a guy who CLAIMS he can POTENTIALLY do all these things.........or a guy who has ACTUALLY done them.

I'll agree that Obama gives a great speech. He really does.

But before a person walks into the Oval Office and sits at that desk as the President of the United States, I think he or she must DEMONSTRATE something to the public, not just talk about it.

And so far, like it or not, all Obama is done is talk about what a great President he's going to make. Based on his POTENTIAL. He's got to focus you on the FUTURE because if you really look at his past, you're going to wonder why he's claiming he's going to deliver on all these promises of change and reform when he's never had to deliver in the past.

McCain doesn't just talk about it. He's done it.

That's the difference in this election as far as I'm concerned.

I'm voting for the real reformer, who really will change Washington if he's elected.

I hope you will to!

your fellow American,

manofaiki
Somewhere in Texas

630 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:49:42am

re: #614 doriangrey

The bleeding stopped Wednesday, seen my dentist twice since then, he say's I'm healing up nicely... I usually heal pretty fast. Not really a whole lot of pain anymore either. Mostly the only pain now is where the stitches come between my gum's and dentures. The stitches are suppose to dissolve in a few more days....

Ok, just covering your back. It never hurts to relate anothers medical adventures, sometimes you find out something you didn't know.

I knew that they suggested you NOT smoke, but I did, I didn't think it would hurt that much, well, I bled so much for about 3 days that I thought they were going to have to condemn my apartment as a bio-harzard site.

631 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:49:50am

re: #586 Mich-again

When Canadian brewery workers start paying taxes to help buy ammunition for the US Marines maybe I'll switch.

LOL. Yeah right, pay more taxes - that'll go over real big up here.
And actually, Coors sells very well up here - I sometimes buy a two-four of that weak piss for those long drives to the lake.

OK, OK...just kidding./

632 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:49:52am
633 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:51:01am

re: #621 goddessoftheclassroom

"bicycle" literally means "two wheels." It was invented in the 19th century, really part of the Industrial Revolution.

"motorcycle" literally means "motorized wheel," derived from the earlier word.

thank you!

my blood pressure dropped 12 points.

he

634 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:51:50am

re: #624 realwest

WHADDYA MEAN A "DATE"?! I thought you were saving yourself for me! uh, no wait, that's not right.

Well anyway, I hope you have a GREAT DAY and an even GREATER DATE cause you sure deserve it gorgeous! *smoooch* and hugs to you!

Thanks honey- that means a lot coming from you. :)

635 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:52:08am

re: #601 sparrowlake

It was only three sixes the last time I was there - 1971... LOL

636 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:52:53am

re: #607 doriangrey

What a pretty little hill.... ;)

I went looking for fall color - and I found that. It's a lovely wee hill.

637 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:53:17am

re: #622 nonic Good morning nonic! I agree with everything you say about an Obama presidency - how could I not?
But I still don't think McCain is gonna lose - I refuse to believe that the single most unqualifed man to become POTUS, CiC and Leader of the Free World could possibly be elected by the American Voter.
Just don't believe it - and I wish you wouldn't either.

638 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:55:53am

re: #627 opnion
Sorry, I have NO IDEA - I don't know anything about Ohio Law (and SCOTUS in Bush v Gore, 2000 made it PAINFULLY clear that election laws and rules are set by States as long as they don't violate the US Constitution) and am only dimly aware that Ohio has started voting already and I HAVE NO IDEA WHY OHIO is voting so damned EARLY!

639 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:56:02am

re: #630 Walter L. Newton

Ok, just covering your back. It never hurts to relate anothers medical adventures, sometimes you find out something you didn't know.

I knew that they suggested you NOT smoke, but I did, I didn't think it would hurt that much, well, I bled so much for about 3 days that I thought they were going to have to condemn my apartment as a bio-harzard site.

Dont get me wrong Walter I do appreciate your caution. I guess I am being a bit grumpy, because I am so used to feeling pretty damned good almost all of the time. Not to say that I don't or haven't had my fair share of aches and pains. I've just never had to take pain medication for so long before. I have taken vicodin before, but never for more than a day or two, and never enough that it caused me to have stomach aches or be dizzy.

640 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:57:49am

I'm going out later to see An American Carol, the new spoof on Micheal Moore. it comes from one of the guys that made Airplane, and the trailer looks hilarious. I want to support it so that hopefully it crushes Bill Maher's new movie at the box office which is also opening now.

641 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:58:02am

Goddess,

why do we put our foot into a boot,
and our feet into boots?

Shouldn't we put our feet into beets?

/exchange student from Norway asked me that one-

he thinks the English language is awkward.

642 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:58:18am

Well all y'all I'm sorry to say it but I gotta go and get ready to and do all those damned chores!
I tells ya retirement ain't for wussies!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

643 eaglewingz08  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:58:23am

While you may not be able to step in the same river twice, if you are a democrat you most certainly have stepped in the same bullcrap day after day for your entire lives.

644 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:58:40am

Thie is off topic, but really a 'Say What?" moment.
The Chicago Cubs are down in the series to LA losing the 1st two at home in the five game set.
Cub players & manager Pinella are saying in this mornings paper that the pressure is now all on the Dodgers.
They say to go home & play two & win one of the next three puts pressure on the Dodgers!

645 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:59:16am

Biden threw sharp lies. Sarah Palin throws sharp sticks. I give to you the Sarah-Cuda.

646 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:59:18am

re: #635 Cap'n DOC

It was only three sixes the last time I was there - 1971... LOL

Cough cough... My preferred micro-brews are in the 6.2 to 10 range.... Which might explain why I only drink a couple at a time.... ;)

647 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:59:25am

re: #637 realwest

Good morning nonic! I agree with everything you say about an Obama presidency - how could I not?
But I still don't think McCain is gonna lose - I refuse to believe that the single most unqualifed man to become POTUS, CiC and Leader of the Free World could possibly be elected by the American Voter.
Just don't believe it - and I wish you wouldn't either.

When the womens vote and racial vote hits Bambi,

it is over.

648 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:59:29am

See ya real - I'm out too, gots things to do. BBL.

649 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:01:03am

re: #648 Miss Trixie

See ya real - I'm out too, gots things to do. BBL.

Take care.... Both of you....

650 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:01:25am

re: #638 realwest

Sorry, I have NO IDEA - I don't know anything about Ohio Law (and SCOTUS in Bush v Gore, 2000 made it PAINFULLY clear that election laws and rules are set by States as long as they don't violate the US Constitution) and am only dimly aware that Ohio has started voting already and I HAVE NO IDEA WHY OHIO is voting so damned EARLY!

Thanks. In Michigan, MSU profs are excusing students from class, without a charged cut, if they register & vote Obama.
How about state employees electionering on state time?

651 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:01:32am
652 gregg  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:02:36am

It sounds like Mark Levin grabbed some of the kool-aid drinking Obama-jugend and had them deprogrammed. You can hear the hear the kids at the beginning of his show, or there's a better clip at 37:30 into the show.

653 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:04:09am

re: #641 ibmkeyboard

Goddess,

Shouldn't we put our feet into beets?

/exchange student from Norway asked me that one-

he thinks the English language is awkward.

The origin of the word determines how its plural is created. English is a blend of German/Anglo-Saxon, French/Latin, and many others,

654 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:04:16am

re: #639 doriangrey

Dont get me wrong Walter I do appreciate your caution. I guess I am being a bit grumpy, because I am so used to feeling pretty damned good almost all of the time. Not to say that I don't or haven't had my fair share of aches and pains. I've just never had to take pain medication for so long before. I have taken vicodin before, but never for more than a day or two, and never enough that it caused me to have stomach aches or be dizzy.

I didn't think you were being grumpy. And please, enjoy the dizzy, it's legal.

I haven't had any pain meds for my hernia surgery for about 10 days now. Healing up nicely. But the last week, the scar is actually hurting more than right after surgery. It's healing, tightning up, and "pinching."

So, I call my providers great automated refill line last Tues. and the robot voice tells me of course, that the doc would have to aprove the refill, and it would be ready Fri. (yesterday). Well, get a load of this. I call yesterday to find out if it was ready, THERE'S NO WAY TO FIND OUT. The automated phone system has no options to check for ready scripts.

And if you want to speak to a LIVE person, no way. So, I guess they want me to drive all the way to downtown Denver, bother a live pharmicist, just to find out the doc wasn't available, or it wasn't approved for a refill, or what ever.

No, I haven't gone downtown yet, I may this morning, I may not.

Don't make sense to me.

655 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:06:35am

Obama and caucus fraud

....One Democratic primary voter with a strong background in mathematics, Dr. Lynette Long, has launched a probe into the lopsided caucus victories of Barack Obama, which indeed garnered the nomination.

Her conclusion?

I’ve spent the past two months immersed in data from the 2008 Democratic caucuses. After studying the procedures and results from all fourteen caucus states, interviewing dozens of witnesses, and reviewing hundreds of personal stories, my conclusion is that the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American public by systematically undermining the caucus process.

The data compiled by Dr. Long, along with the video-recorded testimonials of dozens of caucus-goers, are indeed convincing. According to Dr. Long, in a personal interview, reports from caucus attendees are pretty horrifying at worst, wholly undemocratic at best. Female Clinton supporters reported being called “c**ts” and other sexual epithets, being spat upon by Obama supporters, being threatened physically, and an overall environment of hostility. Not exactly the democratic process to which we are accustomed.....

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Hillary Supporters should be furious.

656 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:06:54am

The New York Times states the obvious, that Obama and Ayers the Terrorist crossed paths, but then goes on to claim that the two have downplayed their contacts. The Times then does the same, ignoring the pile of evidence showing just how closely the two have been over the years - working together on the CAC. They're looking to downplay those years:

A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”

Obama campaign aides said the Ayers relationship had been greatly exaggerated by opponents to smear the candidate.

“The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood. He said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park.

657 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:07:22am

re: #654 Walter L. Newton

I didn't think you were being grumpy. And please, enjoy the dizzy, it's legal.

I haven't had any pain meds for my hernia surgery for about 10 days now. Healing up nicely. But the last week, the scar is actually hurting more than right after surgery. It's healing, tightning up, and "pinching."

So, I call my providers great automated refill line last Tues. and the robot voice tells me of course, that the doc would have to aprove the refill, and it would be ready Fri. (yesterday). Well, get a load of this. I call yesterday to find out if it was ready, THERE'S NO WAY TO FIND OUT. The automated phone system has no options to check for ready scripts.

And if you want to speak to a LIVE person, no way. So, I guess they want me to drive all the way to downtown Denver, bother a live pharmicist, just to find out the doc wasn't available, or it wasn't approved for a refill, or what ever.

No, I haven't gone downtown yet, I may this morning, I may not.

Don't make sense to me.

Ummm, legal or not I dont care for the dizzy. In fact I have been cutting back on the amount to reduce that dizzy. I dont want a re-fill, I want to not need this crap.

658 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:08:00am

{Goddess}- I saw about your loss- my sympathies to you and your kids.

659 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:08:48am

re: #658 Sharmuta

{Goddess}- I saw about your loss- my sympathies to you and your kids.

Thank you so much.

660 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:09:39am

Whoops... here's the linky for the NYT story.

We're supposed to believe that Ayers and Obama were just casual acquaintances. Nothing untoward.

Right.

661 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:10:26am
662 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:10:56am

re: #656 lawhawk

The New York Times states the obvious, that Obama and Ayers the Terrorist crossed paths, but then goes on to claim that the two have downplayed their contacts. The Times then does the same, ignoring the pile of evidence showing just how closely the two have been over the years - working together on the CAC. They're looking to downplay those years:

The New York Slimes lies by omission, hmmm, tell me is anyone really surprised?

663 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:12:07am

Heraclitus
Hey my socks are wet and there's a fish in my boot.

664 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:12:56am

re: #656 lawhawk

THe Obama Campaign put out a release that Obama & Ayers knew each other casually, due to their chidren attending school together.
Not likely, the Obama children are young grade schoolers , while Ayers children are adults.
There is a pattern, like Obama claiming that his parents met at the Selma March, when he was four years old & Barack Sr. was already back in Kenya.

665 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:13:42am

re: #659 goddessoftheclassroom

About 12 years ago, my beloved kitty passed. She was very sick, and my folks called to tell me they were going to have to put her down. I was to head out there the next day to get some time with her before they took her in. The next morning they called me to tell me she didn't make it through the night. So I'm glad that you and you children were able to get that last bit of time with her.

666 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:14:21am

re: #661 taxfreekiller

Sarah Palin

Mark Levin as both, your chief of staff and press secretary.

Just do it.


i don't know about COS, but as press secretary, Levin would be a hoot.

667 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:16:34am

re: #665 Sharmuta

About 12 years ago, my beloved kitty passed. She was very sick, and my folks called to tell me they were going to have to put her down. I was to head out there the next day to get some time with her before they took her in. The next morning they called me to tell me she didn't make it through the night. So I'm glad that you and you children were able to get that last bit of time with her.

I am so thankful. It would have been harder had she passed in the night. We didn't have to watch her decline, either. Ww were blessed indeed.

668 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:16:36am
669 Florida Lady  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:17:50am

re: #572 taxfreekiller

Dear Old Media,

Your numbers on the Palin debate, the 69,989,000.

Sure it is those are your old media estimated numbers give or take a few lies and fraud.

Thing is could be that some did it via the intertubes, that other blog like media, the stuff you hate so much and attempt to ignore and belittle by the hour.

Of some interest would be the number of viewers who viewed on the net and bloged as they did.

You could go to the trouble to count the numbers on radio as many of us do that rather than look at your sorry ass's.

Facts Count up higher if you know how to count.
100,000,000 or more some would guess

have a nice last half life.

The more I read tfk's posts, the more I'm understanding them . . . and really starting to like them!

tfk rocks!

670 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:18:40am

Morning sports fans.
The NYT complicity in covering up Obama's links strike me as desperate. The Times is crossing the line from advocacy journalism to co-conspirator. If Rezco gave up the goods, and the Times would know who is being interviewed, then the Times is trying to cover the tracks that lead from Obama's mother and Obama with "Uncle Frank" to the Pritzkers and Ayers and Acorn. These idiots really are making the big grab.

671 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:20:56am

Good morning all!

I received an email from one of my cohorts in regards to a lawsuit filed
against Obama and the DNC.. by a lawyer Philip J Berg. He says there is proof that Obama is not a Us citizen?

his website is [Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

anybody know anything about this?

672 guzziguy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:21:34am

re: #506 JacksonTn

I am going to the debate in Nashville ....... not inside (I wish) but I do want to go in support of McCain as I know there will be many Obama supporters there. I want to get a sign made. I am asking for suggestions. Probably something with just a few words because when I see a sign with too many words it doesn't hit me as hard. What key words do you think should be highlighted? I am thinking Socialism. Help .......thanks.

State #57 for Obama!

Clean, Articulate folk for Obama!

My tires ARE inflated. My BANK ACCOUNT isn't. Thanks Dems.

"0" What's left after socialized lending. Thanks ACORN

Town Hall Debates ROCK

Obama, The WRIGHT stuff

Obama, the wizard of UHs

4-year pregnancy babies for O
1961-1965 Selma, AL

What is in that nice suit?

Experience counts! What comes after 0?

673 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:21:42am
674 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:22:23am

re: #668 taxfreekiller

On the New Yuck Time Out,

If they see a need to lie about this, it is clear they see this as a real problem and are attempting a lie base to fight the real truth they know is coming. There is no need to do this unless they are scared shit less of the truth.

like that is how they lie in advance

in fact this means the connections of Ayers and Obama are
huge and there is a leak


That's what I think, pre-emptive damage control.
When the Obama/Ayers connection come front & center the rebut will be, "This is Old Nwes, Nothing There."

675 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:22:35am

I think the nyt covering & lying about Ayers just lets them off the hook to have to cover it further or more in depth later. It's a preemptive CYA story.

676 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:23:23am

re: #674 opnion

Nano-seconds behind you.

677 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:23:34am

re: #671 PISSED

That's been an issue raised from time to time, but I don't think that the case has any chance of actually winning. The guy who brought the case is a Hillary partisan.

678 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:24:07am

re: #676 Sharmuta

Nano-seconds behind you.

'Great Minds"

679 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:24:37am

re: #598 goddessoftheclassroom

I had to go back and look. I am so sorry for your loss and pray that you and your family will be comforted. Our pets give us so much and ask for so little in return.

680 opnion  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:24:56am

Later Gators, I am off to assault the lawn with my 6 HP weapon!

681 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:25:03am

re: #671 PISSED

Good morning all!

I received an email from one of my cohorts in regards to a lawsuit filed
against Obama and the DNC.. by a lawyer Philip J Berg. He says there is proof that Obama is not a Us citizen?

his website is [Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

anybody know anything about this?

Obama is inisputably a US citizen. His mother was a citizen so he is, case closed on that. The question is only was he "natural born" as opposed to "naturalized at birth." If he was born outside the US then he was not a "natural born" citizen. Some judge has ordered Obama to produce his birth certificate. What was interesting that I heard is that Obama is using a lawyer for CAIR to fight this.

Leftists are trying to get McCain disqualified because he was born in the Panama Canal zone.

682 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:25:49am

re: #659 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning goddess - I have been having computer problems and I am out of the loop. What happened, if you care to share?

683 JCM  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:26:46am

re: #680 opnion

Later Gators, I am off to assault the lawn with my 6 HP weapon!

Grassicide! Ohhhhh! the horror someone stop the carnage!

/
Will you do mine next?

684 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:27:18am

re: #682 mama winger

Good morning goddess - I have been having computer problems and I am out of the loop. What happened, if you care to share?

((mama)) Good morning mama winger............

685 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:28:45am

re: #684 doriangrey

((mama)) Good morning mama winger............

Good morning dorian! My computer has been doing the hissy and I have been going thru internet withdrawal... how are you today? :)

686 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:28:47am

re: #672 guzziguy

"Got Lipstick?" Few words, and everyone will get it.

687 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:29:09am

re: #680 opnion

Later Gators, I am off to assault the lawn with my 6 HP weapon!

Ummm.... Do you have the required permits and carbon offset required to engage in that vile capitalist act of raping the environment?

688 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:30:30am

I am pumped. I am going to be a poll worker ! ! YAY

- saving Wisconsin from VOTER FRAUD one mama at a time :)

689 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:30:31am

re: #685 mama winger

Good morning dorian! My computer has been doing the hissy and I have been going thru internet withdrawal... how are you today? :)

Grumpy.... The med's my dentist gave me are making me feel almost as bad as his pulling 22 teeth did.

690 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:32:23am

re: #688 mama winger

I am pumped. I am going to be a poll worker ! ! YAY

- saving Wisconsin from VOTER FRAUD one mama at a time :)

Cough cough.... Please rephrase that as voting place worker... Even if I am feeling crappy and grumpy I still have a dirty mind... ;)

691 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:32:55am

re: #689 doriangrey

@*$#@)%* Twenty TWO ? @$)%*&!%&&^)$#

o my I hope they gave you some vicodin

692 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:33:12am

re: #688 mama winger

I am pumped. I am going to be a poll worker ! ! YAY

- saving Wisconsin from VOTER FRAUD one mama at a time :)

Good for you. We need to get more people in there. Maybe it should be like Jury Duty.

693 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:33:26am

re: #671 PISSED

Let's just hope it gets resolved quickly.

Having Zero the duly sworn in POTUS and then finding out he is not a citizen would be very bad.

A constitutional crisis. The great document doesn't address what we are supposed to do if the guy _doesn't_ fulfill the (few) real requirements for the job.

I can see it going to the courts and popping out the end as "well it would be too disruptive to the country to remove him, so we'll let it slide."

/I can hear all the "steal the election" disenfrancisement arguments now. It will be a fait accompli and we will be the ones who get screwed... Constitution? More of a guideline...

/of course, it pretty much already is.

694 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:33:39am

Cool clous effects (sometimes obscured) over the San Gabriel Mountains this morning (Towercam; Pacific Time Zone)

'We can't eat all we want because other countries might not say OK' — 0bama.

Here is a big breakfast.

Good Morning All.

695 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:33:49am

re: #690 doriangrey

Cough cough.... Please rephrase that as voting place worker... Even if I am feeling crappy and grumpy I still have a dirty mind... ;)

Oh no. I really will be a pole worker. I have my outfit all picked out.

:)

696 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:34:21am

re: #691 mama winger

@*$#@)%* Twenty TWO ? @$)%*&!%&&^)$#

o my I hope they gave you some vicodin

They did, but it hurts my stomach keeps me awake all night and makes me dizzy.... And seriously interferes with my beer drinking.... Did I mention it was making me grumpy?

697 nonic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:34:45am

#637 realwest

I hope very much that McCain will win, AND carry in other Republicans on his coattails, which I think is maybe possible given that the Congress had a 9% approval rating BEFORE the bailout and then went ahead and ignored public opinion to pass the bailout.

However, I feel the media campaign to elect Obama along with the utter lying ruthlessness of Pelosi and her gang of thugs amounts to no less than a conspiracy to hoodwink the American voter -- and it could work.

698 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:35:29am

re: #695 mama winger

Oh no. I really will be a pole worker. I have my outfit all picked out.

:)

/blushes.... is it from Victoria's Secret?

699 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:35:48am

re: #692 lifeofthemind

Good for you. We need to get more people in there. Maybe it should be like Jury Duty.

Last election we had a lot of shenanigans in Wisconsin. Remember the folks who slashed the tires of the Get Out the Republican Vote vans?

There will be NONE OF THAT ! I am ON it! lol

700 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:36:17am

re: #698 doriangrey

/blushes.... is it from Victoria's Secret?

Heck no. I'm from Wisconsin. It's from Farm and Fleet.

701 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:36:23am

re: #681 lifeofthemind

Thanks... just figured I would see what you guys thought about it..

Thank God for the blogs... the MSM sucks IMHO!

702 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:37:04am

re: #697 nonic

#637 realwest

I hope very much that McCain will win, AND carry in other Republicans on his coattails, which I think is maybe possible given that the Congress had a 9% approval rating BEFORE the bailout and then went ahead and ignored public opinion to pass the bailout.

However, I feel the media campaign to elect Obama along with the utter lying ruthlessness of Pelosi and her gang of thugs amounts to no less than a conspiracy to hoodwink the American voter -- and it could work.

I think coup d’état might be a better description of what they are attempting to pull...

703 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:37:20am

re: #693 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No, if it was proven that he was not the President the USSS and the military aide would hustle him out of the White House in 2 minutes. Everyone would turn to Joe Biden and say Mr President? They'd do it by the numbers.

704 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:37:29am
705 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:37:44am

Good Morning you all.

706 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:37:57am

re: #696 doriangrey

They did, but it hurts my stomach keeps me awake all night and makes me dizzy.... And seriously interferes with my beer drinking.... Did I mention it was making me grumpy?

Vicodin upsets my stomach too. I find I can only take half of what is prescribed, which kind of defeats the whole purpose.

Feel better. I'll keep a cold Leinie's on tap for ya.

707 JCM  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:38:01am

re: #701 PISSED

Thanks... just figured I would see what you guys thought about it..

Thank God for the blogs... the MSM sucks IMHO!

I heard John Fund the other day.....
Lame Stream Media.

708 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:38:19am

re: #697 nonic

McCain needs to take the gloves off and expose the people that got us in this fianacial MESS , as well as all the associations that MR Obama has..

709 lurking faith  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:39:03am

re: #681 lifeofthemind

The birth certificate issue is a red herring. An image of it was released on the internet a while back - Charles posted threads discussing it - and it looked to be genuine.

If Obama is fighting showing it to a judge, I presume it is either because he thinks, on principle, that he shouldn't have to, or because if the question drags on and makes a lot of noise, and then he produces a perfectly valid birth certificate, he can use the case as a tool to make his detractors look unhinged.

There are plenty of things to object to about Obama that are legitimate and have clear evidence. Let's use those.

710 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:39:16am

re: #707 JCM

Jay Severin ... up my way calls them Ja-whore-nolists : )

711 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:40:03am

re: #705 newsjunkie_ky

Good Morning you all.

Good morning
The "you all" is the Southern in you?

712 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:41:10am

re: #708 PISSED

McCain needs to take the gloves off and expose the people that got us in this fianacial MESS , as well as all the associations that MR Obama has..

He will.

713 nonic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:41:44am

#707 dorian

Good point. Unfortunately.

714 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:41:52am

For doriangrey

I made you a card :)

715 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:42:20am

re: #703 lifeofthemind

No, if it was proven that he was not the President the USSS and the military aide would hustle him out of the White House in 2 minutes. Everyone would turn to Joe Biden and say Mr President? They'd do it by the numbers.

Lord, I hope you are right.

Not that I want Biden to be POTUS (yuk), but a "spin room" play (que James Caville, et al) of the Constitutional crisis would be unimaginably bad for the country.

/sorry about using "que" and Carville in the same sentence.

716 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:42:20am

re: #704 taxfreekiller

I saw this the other day, link is to an article from february

Sunspot activity and global cooling

[Link: www.climatescienceinternational.org...]

717 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:42:21am

re: #700 mama winger

Heck no. I'm from Wisconsin. It's from Farm and Fleet.

ROTFLMAO..... My sister-in-law was talking about designing some Lingerie in the general shape of cover-all's made of denim and camouflaged.... Sounds like she might have had a customer in you....

718 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:42:48am

re: #706 mama winger

Vicodin upsets my stomach too. I find I can only take half of what is prescribed, which kind of defeats the whole purpose.

Feel better. I'll keep a cold Leinie's on tap for ya.


Dorian, Get some phenergan from your doc. It settles the stomach. If I take pain meds I have to have phenergan. Hope you feel better soon.
Morning mama winger.

719 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:43:04am

re: #712 rednaxela

Myself and ALOT of others are PRAYING does and soon!

720 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:43:29am

re: #709 lurking faith

Agreed but the flip argument isthat there is a long lonnnnng list of documents that Obama has refused to release and that needs to be brought to the public's attention. McCain should set up a display with all of his documents, including every demerit he earned at Annapolis and his divorce records. Then he should ask "What is Obama hiding?"

721 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:43:41am

re: #7 capitalist piglet

Thirteen years to the day since he got away with murder. How weird is that?

Wow. I remember how distraught I was for the Goldman family. I was so angry. Ha - this time the jerk is going to rot in a cell. Good.
It's time for bad people to pay.

Now - if we could get corrupt democrats thrown out of congress.

722 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:44:21am

re: #714 mama winger

For doriangrey

I made you a card :)

((mama)) thank you mama...

723 spynverzyon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:44:35am

re: #681 lifeofthemind

Obama is inisputably a US citizen. His mother was a citizen so he is, case closed on that. The question is only was he "natural born" as opposed to "naturalized at birth." If he was born outside the US then he was not a "natural born" citizen.

Although I can't cite the statutes to back it up, and am going only on my own experience as a U.S. citizen born abroad, I believe this explanation is still slightly incorrect.

A child born to a U.S. citizen is a "natural born" U.S. citizen, regardless of the place of birth. (For example, I was born in Holland to two American parents, and am recorded as a natural born citizen. The only difference is procedural, requiring a "Report of Birth Abroad" before the birth certificate can be issued by the local consulate on the State Department).

By contrast, a child born on U.S. soil to parents who are not U.S. citizens is recognized as having no inherited claim of "natural born" citizenship, but is immediately granted naturalized citizenship without having to endure the usual multi-year process, and is therefore considered "naturalized at birth."

Again, this is just my own knowledge of the matter. If an immigration lawyer or other expert out there knows better, please correct this.

724 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:44:45am

re: #718 newsjunkie_ky

Good morning to ya, newsjunkie !

725 JustMyView  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:45:47am

Factcheck.org has reviewed the "Where was Obama born?" issue in detail. Here's their summary paragraph.

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

726 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:45:52am

re: #711 lifeofthemind

Good morning
The "you all" is the Southern in you?

Yep, it just creeps out, can't help it. How are you this morning?

727 Viking6  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:46:20am

re: #64 Oldasdirt

To many flakes from the Left Coast. LA is only 4-5 hours away depending on how fast you drive.

728 spynverzyon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:46:32am

re: #688 mama winger

I am pumped. I am going to be a poll worker ! ! YAY

- saving Wisconsin from VOTER FRAUD one mama at a time :)

Hooray for mama! If I still lived in Chicago, I would come on up to Wisconsin to cast my vote!

729 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:47:07am

re: #728 spynverzyon

Hooray for mama! If I still lived in Chicago, I would come on up to Wisconsin to cast my vote!

hahahaha ! i think they actually do that!

730 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:47:48am

re: #726 newsjunkie_ky

Yep, it just creeps out, can't help it. How are you this morning?

Heh heh heh, hey I live in Southern California, guess that makes me a southerner too... ;)

731 nemoparticularis  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:48:07am
You can’t step twice into the same river. — Heraclitus

Maybe you can, if you run downstream at the same speed the river is flowing.

732 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:49:46am

re: #719 PISSED

Not too soon though. You can't give the MSM an opportunity to hit back, just think of Dan Rather and his forged documents. Who knows what else the MSM had in store if this blog hadn't caught the deception.

You can bet your bottom dollar that they've got things like that planned again this time and McCain should plan his counterattack accordingly.

Hey, he's a military man and unlike his opponent he knows the difference between a strategy and a tactic.

733 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:50:08am

re: #723 spynverzyon

The more problematic part is the business of Young Barry being run off to Indonesia with his mother to marry the guy there. Indonesia doesn't allow dual citizenship, so mother and Barry because he was a minor would have had to renounce US citizenship.

When Barry was teleported back to his grand parents in Hawaii, they neither knew or did anything about the visa and naturalization requirements for their new Indonesian grandchild. Barry, of course, didn't either.

Effectively, he is an Indonesian citizen living illegally in the US since he was 11...

734 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:50:33am

re: #682 mama winger

Good morning goddess - I have been having computer problems and I am out of the loop. What happened, if you care to share?

{mama winger}

We discovered that our dog had two inoperable tumors and had to be put to sleep yesterday. From the first real symptoms to the end was less than 24 hours. As painful as this is, I'm thankful for so much.

735 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:50:57am

re: #730 doriangrey

Heh heh heh, hey I live in Southern California, guess that makes me a southerner too... ;)


LOL!
I hope you feel better soon. Seriously get some phenergan.

736 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:52:30am

re: #734 goddessoftheclassroom

Are you all doing better today? How are your boys?

737 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:52:59am

re: #734 goddessoftheclassroom

{mama winger}

We discovered that our dog had two inoperable tumors and had to be put to sleep yesterday. From the first real symptoms to the end was less than 24 hours. As painful as this is, I'm thankful for so much.

Oh, I am so sorry here to hear this goddess. So quick, it hardly gives you time to wrap your mind around it. Such a jolt. My heart goes out to you. I know what it is like to lose a pet family member.

{goddess}

738 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:53:03am

re: #732 rednaxela

Not too soon though. You can't give the MSM an opportunity to hit back, just think of Dan Rather and his forged documents. Who knows what else the MSM had in store if this blog hadn't caught the deception.

You can bet your bottom dollar that they've got things like that planned again this time and McCain should plan his counterattack accordingly.

Hey, he's a military man and unlike his opponent he knows the difference between a strategy and a tactic.

Just imagine how many other lies like Rathergate the MSM snuck past us over the years because Blog's like this didn't exist. Charles genuinely is a knight in shining armor who has come riding to our rescue....

739 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:53:49am

re: #725 JustMyView

And the Congressional Research Office said Biden was off on Afghani spending by 1700%.

740 lurking faith  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:54:24am

re: #720 lifeofthemind

I agree; that would be more useful.

741 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:54:49am

Back in the summer of 2007 when McCain was talking to himself in townhalls across New Hampshire, I'm sure his supporters were also asking, when the hell are you going to start kicking some ass and even then he didn't.

So I think we should be patient and expect some fireworks towards the third or fourth week of October.

742 Killer Tomato  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:54:58am

re: #739 Sharmuta

And the Congressional Research Office said Biden was off on Afghani spending by 1700%.

Well, duh! It's the exchange rate.

/

743 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:55:03am

re: #739 Sharmuta

And the Congressional Research Office said Biden was off on Afghani spending by 1700%.

I thought that figure he quoted had to be bogus. Thanks for the source.

744 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:55:17am

re: #737 mama winger

Oh, I am so sorry here to hear this goddess. So quick, it hardly gives you time to wrap your mind around it. Such a jolt. My heart goes out to you. I know what it is like to lose a pet family member.

{goddess}

Yup, I have to agree with you there. When you have a dog for 10 years, it's not just a pet, it's a member of the family.

745 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:55:24am

I stepped in something twice. Maybe it wasn't a river.

746 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:55:45am

re: #723 spynverzyon

As I remember my training on this subject you have it exactly backwards. Anyone born on US soil or on a warship transiting US waters or in a plane in US airspace is under the 14th Amendment a citizen, natural born, full stop. That is Jus solis. Actually the child of a foriegn ambassador or sovereign or child born to a camp follower of an invading army would not be a citizen. Any child born of a US citizen overseas is under Jus sanguinis naturalized at birth but can lose that status if they do not return to live in the US. See the wiki article on US citizenship.

747 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:55:53am

Rank the candidates by with whom you'd most enjoy sharing a beer;

1) Palin (duh)
2) Biden (he'd be a fun drunk)
3) McCain (he'd probably show some passion if he sipped a little)
4) Obama (booze bring out the truth...not sure I'd want to hear that!)

748 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:57:07am

#376 newsjunkie
#377 mama winger

Thank you so much for your sympathy.

It was obvious Thursday evening that something was very wrong, so we did have a little warning. The boys got to be with her. Our vet was beyond amazing in her compassion. I'm so glad we have the weekend to deal with the most intense mourning.

The boys spent the night with friends who have been very supportive.

As I've said, I know most of my tears are for the memories of all the life changes that occurred during the 10 years we had her.

749 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:57:08am

re: #747 JSK1121

Rank the candidates by with whom you'd most enjoy sharing a beer;

1) Palin (duh)
2) Biden (he'd be a fun drunk)
3) McCain (he'd probably show some passion if he sipped a little)
4) Obama (booze bring out the truth...not sure I'd want to hear that!)

Ummm, nope.... Two beer's and I'd probably be arrested for punching Biden in the mouth....

750 spynverzyon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:57:18am

re: #733 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The more problematic part is the business of Young Barry being run off to Indonesia with his mother to marry the guy there. Indonesia doesn't allow dual citizenship, so mother and Barry because he was a minor would have had to renounce US citizenship.
...
Effectively, he is an Indonesian citizen living illegally in the US since he was 11...


But did B.O. and his mother actually claim Indonesian citizenship, or did they just live there as aliens (U.S. citizens) on a visa?

751 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:57:20am

re: #738 doriangrey

Just imagine how many other lies like Rathergate the MSM snuck past us over the years because Blog's like this didn't exist. Charles genuinely is a knight in shining armor who has come riding to our rescue....

Absolutely right. Anita Hill comes to mind and in that case Clarence Thomas had to do all the defending on his own (and very well too, if I may add).

752 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:57:36am

re: #726 newsjunkie_ky

Yep, it just creeps out, can't help it. How are you this morning?

Honestly getting a bad feeling as the news keeps piling on. Must keep positive and keep moving forward.

753 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:57:46am

re: #744 doriangrey

Yup, I have to agree with you there. When you have a dog for 10 years, it's not just a pet, it's a member of the family.

My beloved greyhound passed away in May in the very same time period. She fell and broke her leg, we discovered it was bone cancer, and we put her down in a matter of hours. She had shown absolutely no symptoms up to that point - it was a complete shock.

It's like - How can they be here one minute and gone the next ?

754 lurking faith  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:58:30am

re: #733 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Is there evidence that his mother actually did switch to Indonesian citizenship?

755 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:58:32am

re: #749 doriangrey

Ummm, nope.... Two beer's and I'd probably be arrested for punching Biden in the mouth....

But wouldn't that make you feel goooooood?

756 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:58:49am

re: #748 goddessoftheclassroom

As I've said, I know most of my tears are for the memories of all the life changes that occurred during the 10 years we had her.

There's a lot of love in those years. Your boys will always have that.

757 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:59:15am

re: #753 mama winger

My beloved greyhound passed away in May in the very same time period. She fell and broke her leg, we discovered it was bone cancer, and we put her down in a matter of hours. She had shown absolutely no symptoms up to that point - it was a complete shock.

It's like - How can they be here one minute and gone the next ?

It's never easy.
However, as I told my mom, the pain of losing a pet is the price we pay for all the love they give us; that love is worth the pain.

758 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:59:50am

re: #757 goddessoftheclassroom

The love is worth the pain.

Absolutely.

759 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:00:25am

re: #747 JSK1121

2) Biden (he'd be a fun drunk)

Indeed.

760 rawmuse  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:00:33am

Love is pain is love.

761 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:01:25am

re: #733 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Why exactly would they have to have assumed Indonesian citizenship? Do you have to be Indonesian to live there?

762 nonic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:01:52am

#708 pissed

People won't believe it. I'm having an e-mail discussion this morning with a friend who is well educated, a sensible professional, definitely right of center, a person I respect and who I know respects me. But he won't believe it. He says it "can't be all the Democrats fault, when the Republicans controlled both houses." That's a point that's hard to refute without files at my fingertips that I don't have.

LINK NEEDED.......... There was a link to a website that had a list of the moneys accepted by Senators and Congresspersons from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Kerry was like at the top with Obama #2 or 3, and McCain down at the bottom. I want to send that link to my friend. Anybody got it handy?

763 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:02:12am

re: #759 Sharmuta

Indeed.

Maybe if we got him drunk enough, we could convince him to donate to charity.

/fat chance.

764 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:02:42am

re: #750 spynverzyon

re: #754 lurking faith

Check out those Berg court briefs... the "internals" make for some very interesting reading.

You can see them here

I'm not a lawyer here or in Indonesia, but I think he's got a good case.

765 JustMyView  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:02:57am

re: #739 Sharmuta

And the Congressional Research Office said Biden was off on Afghani spending by 1700%.

Does that have something to do w/ where Barack was born? FactCheck.org is an independent, non-profit organization. They're not in the tank for anyone.

766 yah  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:12am

re: #667 goddessoftheclassroom

I had to let my kitty go about 4 months ago. Hardest thing I ever did.
Every night he would jump up on the bed and sleep at my feet. Sometimes I would be asleep when he did this and it would wake me up.

In the past months I have been awakened a few times by a "plop" at my feet. I thought nothing of it - figured I was just dreaming. The other night I was just falling asleep and I distinctly felt that "plop" at my feet and realized if felt exactly the same as when my kitty had jumped up there.

Perhaps my feet have a memory - but I tell you that it feels as real as if someone had grabbed my feet. I was not dreaming.

767 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:21am

re: #754 lurking faith

Agree entirely. Engaging in wild speculation isn't what this blog is known for or what cost Dan Rather his job.

768 lurking faith  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:26am

I think I need to go play with Mr. faith and the pets now.

{goddess}
{mama w}
{dorian grey}
{anybody else who needs it}

769 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:28am

re: #761 rednaxela

Why exactly would they have to have assumed Indonesian citizenship? Do you have to be Indonesian to live there?

That is, I believe, the case.

770 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:30am

re: #671 PISSED

Good morning all!

I received an email from one of my cohorts in regards to a lawsuit filed
against Obama and the DNC.. by a lawyer Philip J Berg. He says there is proof that Obama is not a Us citizen?

his website is [Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

anybody know anything about this?

Its been followed a few times here. I doubt they will resolve it until after the election, and if Obamanation is a Kenyan, Hildabeast got cheated by the Dean Machine. All the more reason to vote for McCain, less Chaos.
(This advice is for dems only) But if you can't pull thelever for Mccain, pull it for Cynthia McKinney instead. That way you can claim to be neither racist or sexist.

771 spynverzyon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:30am

Friends,
For those who haven't already seen it (been up for a week), excellent video here that gives clear, well organized, and extremely damning evidence about the Dem stonewall on Fannie/Freddie reform a few years back.

Pass it along before youtube takes it down!

772 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:46am
773 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:03:55am

re: #765 JustMyView

Are you saying the Congressional Research Office is in the tank for someone?

774 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:04:03am

re: #752 lifeofthemind

Honestly getting a bad feeling as the news keeps piling on. Must keep positive and keep moving forward.

Since this has been one of the worst weeks in my life, I'm clinging (bitterly?) to my optimism on the election. Sarah really lifted my spirits.
You keep positive and pray for a cold, cold, hard rain in all the blue states for Nov. 4.

775 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:04:32am

re: #733 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The more problematic part is the business of Young Barry being run off to Indonesia with his mother to marry the guy there. Indonesia doesn't allow dual citizenship, so mother and Barry because he was a minor would have had to renounce US citizenship.

When Barry was teleported back to his grand parents in Hawaii, they neither knew or did anything about the visa and naturalization requirements for their new Indonesian grandchild. Barry, of course, didn't either.

Effectively, he is an Indonesian citizen living illegally in the US since he was 11...

Honest, forget it, that isn't a renounciation that means you lose your US citizenship. To really stop being a citizen you have to march in the embassy spit on the flag scream that you are quitting because you refuse to pay US taxes (that is the key clause) and then swear and sign an oath. Even then if you say you were being coerced or are real sorry then the judge will probably let you back in the US. If they think you left to avoid taxes then you can never get back into the country.

776 vxbush  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:04:56am

re: #748 goddessoftheclassroom

It's not much, but I has dis kind of luv for u.

777 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:05:00am

re: #751 rednaxela

Absolutely right. Anita Hill comes to mind and in that case Clarence Thomas had to do all the defending on his own (and very well too, if I may add).

I was thinking more along the lines of the Clinton rape scandal. Anyone remember how the MSM treated Juanita Broderick? Kathleen Willey? Paula Jones?

778 El Lizardo mejicano  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:05:10am

obama's new army [Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

779 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:05:21am

re: #753 mama winger

My beloved greyhound passed away in May in the very same time period. She fell and broke her leg, we discovered it was bone cancer, and we put her down in a matter of hours. She had shown absolutely no symptoms up to that point - it was a complete shock.

It's like - How can they be here one minute and gone the next ?


You summed it up perfectly. Still sorry for your loss.

780 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:07:17am

re: #775 lifeofthemind

Honest, forget it, that isn't a renounciation that means you lose your US citizenship. To really stop being a citizen you have to march in the embassy spit on the flag scream that you are quitting because you refuse to pay US taxes (that is the key clause) and then swear and sign an oath. Even then if you say you were being coerced or are real sorry then the judge will probably let you back in the US. If they think you left to avoid taxes then you can never get back into the country.

Hopefully, the courts won't agree with this assessment. :-)

781 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:07:26am

re: #766 yah

I had to let my kitty go about 4 months ago. Hardest thing I ever did.
Every night he would jump up on the bed and sleep at my feet. Sometimes I would be asleep when he did this and it would wake me up.

In the past months I have been awakened a few times by a "plop" at my feet. I thought nothing of it - figured I was just dreaming. The other night I was just falling asleep and I distinctly felt that "plop" at my feet and realized if felt exactly the same as when my kitty had jumped up there.

Perhaps my feet have a memory - but I tell you that it feels as real as if someone had grabbed my feet. I was not dreaming.

As Lizards know, I am a devout Christian. I may not have facts, but I have faith, and I believe that love never ends.

Love is an eternal connection, and I sincerely believe that your kitty is reaching across to comfort you.

I also believe that we give a bit of our souls to our pets and that they are with us in Paradise. It certainly wouldn't be Paradise without the,.

782 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:07:32am

re: #776 vxbush

It's not much, but I has dis kind of luv for u.

I love it!

Here is my card for goddess

783 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:07:54am

re: #693 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Let's just hope it gets resolved quickly.

Having Zero the duly sworn in POTUS and then finding out he is not a citizen would be very bad.

A constitutional crisis. The great document doesn't address what we are supposed to do if the guy _doesn't_ fulfill the (few) real requirements for the job.

I can see it going to the courts and popping out the end as "well it would be too disruptive to the country to remove him, so we'll let it slide."

/I can hear all the "steal the election" disenfrancisement arguments now. It will be a fait accompli and we will be the ones who get screwed... Constitution? More of a guideline...

/of course, it pretty much already is.

If the resolution comes after Nov 4, and Obamanation is elected, Biden becomes president. If the resolutio ncomes before Nov 4, Hildabeast should get the dem nod with HER choice of a VP.
I think the ballots should be printed with an alternate question:
In the event Barrack Obama is deemed by the courts to be inelligible, who shall be president?
Biden
Clinton
McCain
(remainder of ballot)

784 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:07:55am

re: #777 doriangrey

Yeah, too true. Don't know why Anita Hill came to mind first. It may be that Clarence Thomas was dismissed out of hand by the MSM, just like they are treating Palin.

785 little boomer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:07:58am

re: #747 JSK1121

Rank the candidates by with whom you'd most enjoy sharing a beer;

1) Palin (duh)
2) Biden (he'd be a fun drunk)
3) McCain (he'd probably show some passion if he sipped a little)
4) Obama (booze bring out the truth...not sure I'd want to hear that!)


Thank you for bring this long ignored concept to life.....

1) McCain -he's even funny sober
2) Biden- Again, naturally humorous
3) Sarah- of course
4) Obama- would stiff you with the bar tab

786 JustMyView  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:08:32am

Those of you mourning departed four-legged friends might be interested in this essay about old dogs. Very charming and touching.

It's from a coffee-table book called Old Dogs Are the Best Dogs. Just published.

787 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:08:41am

re: #755 JSK1121

But wouldn't that make you feel goooooood?

/cites 5th amendment..... ;)

788 Killer Tomato  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:08:49am

{anyone who's lost a beloved furry family member}

So much for my relaxing Saturday - unexpected company just arrived.
:-(
(well, just poop)
Later, lizards!

789 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:08:49am

re: #776 vxbush

It's not much, but I has dis kind of luv for u.

{vxbush}
You made me LOL!

790 little boomer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:09:38am

re: #778 El Lizardo mejicano

I remember this one time at Obama camp......

791 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:09:49am

re: #782 mama winger

I love it!

Here is my card for goddess

How sweet! Thank you.

792 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:09:56am

re: #761 rednaxela

Why exactly would they have to have assumed Indonesian citizenship? Do you have to be Indonesian to live there?

As late as 1981 Obamanation was traveling on an Indonesian passport, something you cannot get if you are not an indonesian, and they do not allow dual citizenship.

793 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:10:12am

re: #785 little boomer

Thank you for bring this long ignored concept to life.....

1) McCain -he's even funny sober
2) Biden- Again, naturally humorous
3) Sarah- of course
4) Obama- would stiff you with the bar tab

Fantasy beer-drinking is, in my opinion, as good a question as "fantasy super hero fights", "who would you rather bone", and "would you rather..."

794 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:10:15am

re: #764 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #754 lurking faith

Check out those Berg court briefs... the "internals" make for some very interesting reading.

You can see them here

I'm not a lawyer here or in Indonesia, but I think he's got a good case.

This is one time the US judges act in an old fashioned manner I'm proud of. No judge will allow a foreign court to take away the US citizenship of a child who was born in this country. If we can get those children out of Saudi Arabia who were kidnapped then those kids are welcome home to America.

795 vxbush  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:10:25am

re: #789 goddessoftheclassroom

{vxbush}
You made me LOL!

Then I have done my job today.

{goddess}

796 spynverzyon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:10:40am

re: #746 lifeofthemind

Thanks for straightening that out - it appears I've been under a misapprehension for all of my 44 years as a citizen (or at least the 25 or so of those years since I became capable of rational thought!).

So, as a U.S. citizen born of American parents on Dutch soil, am I eligible to be President?

797 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:10:51am

re: #762 nonic

#708 pissed

People won't believe it. I'm having an e-mail discussion this morning with a friend who is well educated, a sensible professional, definitely right of center, a person I respect and who I know respects me. But he won't believe it. He says it "can't be all the Democrats fault, when the Republicans controlled both houses." That's a point that's hard to refute without files at my fingertips that I don't have.

LINK NEEDED.......... There was a link to a website that had a list of the moneys accepted by Senators and Congresspersons from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Kerry was like at the top with Obama #2 or 3, and McCain down at the bottom. I want to send that link to my friend. Anybody got it handy?


HERE

798 JustMyView  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:11:24am

re: #773 Sharmuta

Are you saying the Congressional Research Office is in the tank for someone?

No, I'm not.

799 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:11:58am

re: #796 spynverzyon

Thanks for straightening that out - it appears I've been under a misapprehension for all of my 44 years as a citizen (or at least the 25 or so of those years since I became capable of rational thought!).

So, as a U.S. citizen born of American parents on Dutch soil, am I eligible to be President?

Yes. My son was born in England and my then-husband is English, but since I am American, my son is a natural-born US citizen. I have the consular report of birth to prove it.

800 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:12:11am

re: #778 El Lizardo mejicano

obama's new army [Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

Scary.

801 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:12:35am

This is frickin' rich. The Palestinians wont stand for the Judiaziation of Jerusalem. No, that would get in the way of their Judenrein. They demand partition of Jerusalem among their latest demands on the Israeli government and will settle for nothing less.

It's past time to tell the Palestinians to pound sand.

802 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:13:17am

re: #762 nonic

#708 pissed

LINK NEEDED.......... There was a link to a website that had a list of the moneys accepted by Senators and Congresspersons from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Kerry was like at the top with Obama #2 or 3, and McCain down at the bottom. I want to send that link to my friend. Anybody got it handy?

Here ya go.

Opensecrets.org is worth looking at in general.

803 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:13:21am

re: #796 spynverzyon

Thanks for straightening that out - it appears I've been under a misapprehension for all of my 44 years as a citizen (or at least the 25 or so of those years since I became capable of rational thought!).

So, as a U.S. citizen born of American parents on Dutch soil, am I eligible to be President?

Status of your parents at the time of Birth matters. Were they living there ? Were they in the Military? Several factors come into play.

804 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:13:48am

re: #766 yah
So sorry for your loss of Kitty. I totally understand that. I feel like a part of me was amputated.
I'll feel better when Meggie's little ashes come home. She needs to be here.

805 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:14:17am

re: #765 JustMyView

Does that have something to do w/ where Barack was born? FactCheck.org is an independent, non-profit organization. They're not in the tank for anyone.

Not in the tank? Primary funding is Annenberg. And that raises questions.

The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.

806 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:14:47am

Couple of links:
BARACK'S CHILL
LIBERALS RETHINK FREE SPEECH

and

Obama campaign accused of intimidation
FINALLY in a Missouri paper, the KC Star!

807 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:15:24am

re: #796 spynverzyon

Thanks for straightening that out - it appears I've been under a misapprehension for all of my 44 years as a citizen (or at least the 25 or so of those years since I became capable of rational thought!).

So, as a U.S. citizen born of American parents on Dutch soil, am I eligible to be President?

No, but not because of the birth thing... the Constitution specifically singles you out as ineligible by name.

/jk

808 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:16:02am

re: #796 spynverzyon

Thanks for straightening that out - it appears I've been under a misapprehension for all of my 44 years as a citizen (or at least the 25 or so of those years since I became capable of rational thought!).

So, as a U.S. citizen born of American parents on Dutch soil, am I eligible to be President?

I do not think so but it has never been tested in court. George Romney was born in Mexico and was a serious candidate. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before it joined the Union. McCain was born in the Canal Zone. As a citizen of New Amsterdam I'd give you a pass.

809 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:16:15am
810 JCM  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:17:38am
811 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:19:18am
812 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:20:25am
813 Pshawalaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:20:39am

re: #794 lifeofthemind

Michele just read your post and says the time spent reading it marked the second time that she was proud to be an American.

814 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:21:38am

re: #732 rednaxela

That makes me feel better : )

I'm off.. gotta go to work to help pay off the 800 something billion dollar bail out.......

Quickly .. i was thinking how much that really was....

A 1.00 dollar bill is about 6.14 inchs long and .005 thick

Its 2983 (map quest) miles from Boston to Los Angeles
2983 miles x 5280 feet/mile x 12 inches/foot
= 189,002,880.00 inches long

that divided by 6.14 = 30,782,228 dollar bills laid end to end
from Boston to los angeles

800,000,000,000 divided by 30,782,228
equals 25,989 bills thick if you stacked them..
25,989 x .005 is 130 inches thick

130 / 12 is Just under 11 feet..

Summation... you could build an 11 foot high wall of 1 dollar bills
on the double yellow line from boston to los angeles along the highways
that mapquest shows

[Link: www.mapquest.com...]

Think about that, during breakfast : )

815 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:21:54am

re: #801 lawhawk

This is frickin' rich. The Palestinians wont stand for the Judiaziation of Jerusalem. No, that would get in the way of their Judenrein. They demand partition of Jerusalem among their latest demands on the Israeli government and will settle for nothing less.

It's past time to tell the Palestinians to pound sand.

Israel should formally incorporate Bethlehem, expel the Muslim intruders that have migrated to that city in the last 20 years that changed the population from 80% Christian to 90% Muslim, and then take control of the Temple Mount away from the Islamic Waqf.

816 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:22:07am

re: #802 arethusa

Here ya go.

Opensecrets.org is worth looking at in general.

McCain is arround 53rd, O from PACS, $21550 from individuals.

817 nonic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:22:37am

#797 newsjunkie

Thank you very much! I'll bookmark it this time. Thanks :-)

Bye all, have a good day.

818 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:23:03am

BBL. Take care, and give your pets an extra pat today.

819 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:23:45am
820 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:24:40am

re: #810 JCM

Animal lover's stories courtesy of Mark Levin


Thank you for sharing that link. I've requested his book from the talking book library.

821 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:26:05am

re: #809 Typicalwhitey

THE LIES BIDEN TOLD


Thank you. You are right on top of this and the MO intimidation tactics, finally getting some attention, thanks to you.
You go girl.

822 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:26:06am
823 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:26:22am
824 akak  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:27:29am

re: #801 lawhawk

This is frickin' rich. The Palestinians wont stand for the Judiaziation of Jerusalem. No, that would get in the way of their Judenrein. They demand partition of Jerusalem among their latest demands on the Israeli government and will settle for nothing less.

It's past time to tell the Palestinians to pound sand.


Tell that to Sarah Palin, she's pushing the peace process bullshit.

825 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:28:04am

re: #819 ploome hineni

Israel need 100,000 Christians to move into Bethlehem and support this

you may have forgotten that the Bethlehem Christians have been thoroughly dhimmified, and many hate Jews more than they fear muslims

Maybe Israel would be open to some gun-clinging non dhimmified American Christians being allowed there as political refugees from the Obama regime.

(If the moonbats are willing to call the Bush Presidency a "regime" I will damn well do the same for Obama's.)

826 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:28:31am

re: #819 ploome hineni

Israel need 100,000 Christians to move into Bethlehem and support this

you may have forgotten that the Bethlehem Christians have been thoroughly dhimmified, and many hate Jews more than they fear muslims

While I genuinely love Israel I honestly cannot understand some of the things that she does. Israel should have long ago expelled all of the Palestinians and any Arab that supported the Palestinians. What are the Israeli's thinking? They should also expel all Muslims from Israel. Allowing Muslims to live in and move freely around Israel can hardly be seen as anything less than a attempt at suicide...

827 nonic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:29:38am

#802 arethusa

Thanks. :-)

828 lori lane  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:29:59am

re: #786 JustMyView

Those of you mourning departed four-legged friends might be interested in this essay about old dogs. Very charming and touching.

It's from a coffee-table book called Old Dogs Are the Best Dogs. Just published.

Thank you so much for these links. I'll have to admit that I started crying as soon as I saw the cover of the book. Reminds me so much of my beloved Fitzy boy who left us in Jan of 07. Almost 15! I will definitely be getting this book for family members this Christmas.

829 pingjockey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:30:26am

re: #824 akak
What? Where? When? I hadn't heard that.

830 gregg  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:30:42am

re: #762 nonic

#708 pissed

People won't believe it. I'm having an e-mail discussion this morning with a friend who is well educated, a sensible professional, definitely right of center, a person I respect and who I know respects me. But he won't believe it. He says it "can't be all the Democrats fault, when the Republicans controlled both houses." That's a point that's hard to refute without files at my fingertips that I don't have.

That's the power of the "race card". There were enough Republicans that feared being called racists if they supported reforms at Freddie/Fannie/CRA.

831 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:30:47am

re: #828 lori lane

Bosniac would be a good name for a Boston Terrier.

832 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:30:55am

re: #824 akak

Tell that to Sarah Palin, she's pushing the peace process bullshit.

Palin said she was for a two state solution, she didn't say where the Palestinian state should be. Let the Palestinian state be in Jordan, since that's where over 90 percent of the Palestinians came from in the first place.

833 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:31:23am

re: #830 gregg

Race my ass

834 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:32:05am

re: #826 doriangrey

While I genuinely love Israel I honestly cannot understand some of the things that she does. Israel should have long ago expelled all of the Palestinians and any Arab that supported the Palestinians. What are the Israeli's thinking? They should also expel all Muslims from Israel. Allowing Muslims to live in and move freely around Israel can hardly be seen as anything less than a attempt at suicide...

I agree 110% with you, but, unfortunately, it's way too late for Israel to do that. The only way they'll be able to protect themselves in the future is to keep building in Judea and Samaria while the Palestinians dilly-dally on a peace agreement. Eventually, I hope, the Palestinians will understand that they're not going to get 100% of the 'occupied territories' and will have to settle for much less.

835 PISSED  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:32:33am

re: #833 Ojoe

[Link: cache.daylife.com...]

836 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:34:38am

re: #821 newsjunkie_ky

Thank you. You are right on top of this and the MO intimidation tactics, finally getting some attention, thanks to you.
You go girl.


You know Kentucky, sometimes it feels like digging a ten foot hole with a teaspoon LOL

Btw, my Mom went to school with a girl, her real name was Kentucky Dikes.
I always thought that was the coolest name EVAH!

837 JustMyView  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:36:05am

re: #828 lori lane

Thank you so much for these links. I'll have to admit that I started crying as soon as I saw the cover of the book. Reminds me so much of my beloved Fitzy boy who left us in Jan of 07. Almost 15! I will definitely be getting this book for family members this Christmas.

Yes, I think it'll be a terrific book and will make a great gift. I read the essay earlier this morning and was in tears by the end. My own dog was much too young when he died. I never got to see him become an old man.

838 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:37:01am

re: #824 akak

Tell that to Sarah Palin, she's pushing the peace process bullshit.

No, tell that to ALL the fucks out there who think it's ALL Israel's/U.S.'s fault. That I am very fucking tired of hearing.

839 nonic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:37:37am

#830 gregg

You're not far off. He's Jewish and admits that's a big part of it. He talks about his conservatism, but I know he's gonna vote for Obama. Breaks my heart.

Ploomie, please don't get me wrong. You should know I love Israel and I love Jews. But you gotta admit that some Jews have a strange "thing" about the democrats.

840 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:41:26am
841 rednaxela  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:42:56am

re: #792 JeremyR

The problem with dual citizenship is that a country doesn't have the right to find out whether someone holds a passport from another country, e.g. Germany does not allow dual citizenship but they've still ended up giving citizenship to millions of RoPers who also happen to be Turkish or whatever.

842 pingjockey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:46:19am

re: #840 FrogMarch
Tolerant and progressive should be banned when speaking of the left, cause they ain't!

843 Born Again Republican  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:46:32am

re: #823 Ojoe

Take me away! Would love to be breathing in that cool, moist air!

844 lori lane  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:55:12am

re: #837 JustMyView

Yes, I think it'll be a terrific book and will make a great gift. I read the essay earlier this morning and was in tears by the end. My own dog was much too young when he died. I never got to see him become an old man.

I haven't read the article yet. Not in the mood to cwy. :-/ I'm so sorry you lost your dog before he was a senior pup.

845 gregg  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 9:06:52am

re: #839 nonic

I guess you could send him this item where even Alec Baldwin says the Democrats have a lot of responsibility for the the mess:

"BALDWIN: I'm gonna rape you...The, the thing we have to remember, a friend of mine who is very close to the financial community in New York pointed out that Democrats have a lot of the responsibility for this as well. I mean, it was Clinton who killed the Glass-Steagall, and it happened under a Democratic president. Barney Frank and his committee, they, they kept propping up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac saying everything's fine, everything's fine, everything's good. And it was his job to know everything wasn't fine. And Barney Frank let you down and let us down as well. And so, but I want to say there's blame to go both ways. But I will say, I want to, I maybe keep beating this to death, but I still think anyone in this Congress who voted to add $140 billion to that bill, they should be ashamed of themselves. That is a disgrace. It's a disgrace. This Congress is a disgrace, Democrat and Republican. "

846 yah  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 9:12:18am

re: #810 JCM


[Link: marklevinshow.com...]

I listened to Levin speak of his pet many times on the radio. He said it was a very spiritual experience. (among other things)

847 AceR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 9:28:40am

First timer here...love this site! Not sure I get the quote about stepping into the river, tho. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

I'd like to comment about Sarah Palin and the left's derangement on her nomination for VP. As a recovering lib (uber Democrat since 1972, recovery began in 2000), I am not surprised by the left's reaction to her. I recall when Reagan won the election, I thought the world would end because I thought Reagan would destroy all that Carter and Johnson had worked to achieve. My liberal friends and I labeled him Satan, deranged, and senile. Surprisingly, I prospered exceedingly throughout the Reagan years, and I witnessed the tearing down of the Berlin wall and the end of the Soviet Union, but I never gave him props for all he accomplished.

I also remember Bork's nomination to the Supreme Court and how I knew nothing about him, but it didn't stop me or my lib friends from bashing him unmercifully during our coffee breaks at work, because he was nominated by the "enemy". We delighted in Anita Hill's testimony and were vindicated and celebrated when his nomination was withdrawn.

With Palin, I see the very derangement that I possessed for so many years coming from the left. Hordes of reporter/investigators from the main stream media are dispatched to Alaska to dig up dirt on her. Her family is assaulted by the media's hinting at incest, and a mother/daughter coverup with the birth of her baby boy. Magazine publications vilify her and prominently make her cover page with hints about scandals. Low lifes create porn videos and naked paintings because they hate her so much and delight in the ultimate embarassment and debasement of her. And her baby who suffers with Down's is hooted at by the left as a missed opportunity for what abortion really means...elimination of a life...that is not worthy and that Sarah made the wrong "choice".

Even when she kicks Biden's butt in the VP debate after only 5 weeks on the national scene, she is pooh-poohed by the leftist media as a neophyte, an amateur, and a wholly scripted automaton. Then they nod to each other and coo about how Biden won the debate on substance and how Obama was so insightful to pick Biden as his running mate.

They can't fault her on her accomplishments---they simply call her the mayor of a small town, and a mother of 5 who neglects her motherly duties to her children. The hatred on the left palpable, and I encourage anyone who is still sitting on the fence about the McCain/Palin ticket to take a fresh look at how Obama/Biden has conducted their campaign through the hate-filled main stream media.

I am ashamed that this behavior by the media goes unchecked, and I refuse to subscribe to anymore publications that feed this kind of sickening derangement.

I've signed up to volunteer for the McCain/Palin ticket, and I've contributed money to their campaign for the first time in my life (I am 57). I hope those of you who can spare some time or cash in the next few weeks to do the same.

848 kevinmumaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 9:28:54am

Sums it up

America's partisan politics has always featured its share of rancorous abuse, but there's something rancid at the heart of the new, blog-driven left that believes its bullying childishness has led the way out of the wilderness.This spirit will inevitably seep into an Obama administration. Whatever Obama's professions of his commitment to cross-partisan understanding, he's never confronted the left of his own party and has always been willing to engage in hardball when it suits his purposes.

Little Keith Olbermanns will surely be burrowed throughout his executive branch, eager to chill the speech of the "worst people in the world."

--Rich Lowry

849 siberian khatru  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 10:25:21am

re: #640 alien_mind

I'm going out later to see An American Carol, the new spoof on Micheal Moore. it comes from one of the guys that made Airplane, and the trailer looks hilarious. I want to support it so that hopefully it crushes Bill Maher's new movie at the box office which is also opening now.

Saw it last night. I gave it a "B+", but mostly only because Zucker's scattershot-slapstick style of humor isn't always my particular cup of tea; sometimes he tends to use a bludgeon when a stiletto would be more satirically effective. :)

I urge anyone who's thinking about seeing An American Carol not to put it off -- the critics are already trying to create the impression that it's a flop, and the Hollyweird leftists would like nothing better than for it to have a "slow" opening weekend to "prove" there's no market for films making fun of the left.

850 kevinmumaw  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 10:32:29am

re: #849 siberian khatru

Unfortunately it is not playing in any of my theaters. I would have to go up to Raleigh. I understand they had to go to a French distributor for An American Carol.

851 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:51:53am

re: #834 JSK1121

That presupposes that the Palis are rational. They are not. Nowhere near it.

852 Jim C.  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:51pm

"You can’t step twice into the same river."

Sure you can. Just walk downstream! :p

853 Jim C.  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:40:12pm

ARGH! Scooped over 100 posts ago!


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