GO SARAH!

It's never too late...I hope.

It's about time.

GO SARAH GO!

Go get em sarah

She can hit him wear it hurts. the msm will spin it to favor obambi.
Later Lizards.

I've been waiting to see that pit bull. I'm hoping it's not too late. She's got a great way of speaking straight to the heart of the matter but not seeming like a harpy.

To be fair, I think she might be the only one of them who can do this.

I stand with Sarah.

Get some Sarah.

I love this woman. In the meantime, an interesting article, not too off topic:

The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Terrorists.

Terrorists, he writes, (1) attack civilians, a policy that has a lousy track record of convincing those civilians to give the terrorists what they want; (2) treat terrorism as a first resort, not a last resort, failing to embrace nonviolent alternatives like elections; (3) don't compromise with their target country, even when those compromises are in their best interest politically; (4) have protean political platforms, which regularly, and sometimes radically, change; (5) often engage in anonymous attacks, which precludes the target countries making political concessions to them; (6) regularly attack other terrorist groups with the same political platform; and (7) resist disbanding, even when they consistently fail to achieve their political objectives or when their stated political objectives have been achieved.

Abrahms has an alternative model to explain all this: People turn to terrorism for social solidarity. He theorizes that people join terrorist organizations worldwide in order to be part of a community, much like the reason inner-city youths join gangs in the United States.

"Our opponent though is someone who sees America it seems as being so imperfect..."

Welcome to Liberalism 101 Sarah.

"I’m just afraid that the time to “take the gloves off” may have already passed."

Four weeks should be enough. The bigger question is whether anyone is listening. Obamba has been treated so gingerly by the media that it won't matter what McCain/Palin would have said or when they would have said it.

I hope she is setting the tone for the next debate. Push, push, push. Someone will have to ask a question about this. And someone needs to be made to answer.

Watch for her to be attacked strenuously soon.

The thing is, I think a lot of people are very uncomfortable with Obama, but uninspired by McCain. They're looking for the reasons why Obama makes them uncomfortable because they know in their hearts it's not racism (despite what the MSM and the Obama campaign keep telling them). Now they'll know the truth and they'll understand that smarmy criminals stink and they were simply smelling it.

They may not be inspired by McCain, but they'll appreciate the truth from Palin.

I hope.

It's only "too late" when the ballots are cast.

I think Sarah is Obama's October Surprise. I believe there is smart strategy behind this. Watch...

re: #6 kynna

I've been waiting to see that pit bull. I'm hoping it's not too late. She's got a great way of speaking straight to the heart of the matter but not seeming like a harpy.

To be fair, I think she might be the only one of them who can do this.

Yes, she does indeed have a way of speaking that reaches people, instead of putting them off.

McCain ought to let her and Todd loose in Michigan.

I hope this doesn't seem too off-topic. It goes straight to the issue of how much respect Obama has for the law. Harvard Law School didn't seem to help much in that area.

[Link: wbztv.com...]

In a 15-month stretch of a three-year stay at Harvard Law school that ended in 1991, Obama racked up 17 violations totaling $140, including overtime parking, illegal use of resident parking areas, and parking at a bus stop, a $15 fine back then.

...the debt was paid in full just two weeks before his presidential campaign announcement.

re: #9 armytramp

Very interesting analysis.
I think there's a lot of truth in it.
Thanks for the link!

I disagree. If McCain had used this stuff early, the shock would have worn off and the MSM would have saved Obama bin Biden's bacon. McCain had to keep the power dry. October is the time to set off the fireworks. Day and Night. Every Day.

Favorite Palin line today: "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

re: #14 Max Darkside

It's only "too late" when the ballots are cast.

Just repeating that.

re: #19 Fat Jolly Penguin

Just repeating that.

But the hand wringing about "too late" is harmful.

That pork-laden "bailout" bill yesterday just might make a whole lot of 'yes' voting congressmen lose their jobs in about 4 weeks. Sarah is Morning in America, Naught-bama is a moonless night, at the very best.

Too late is Nov.5th. Today is a good day to take the gloves off and see if the empty suit wants to go a few rounds. He has been ducking and weaving for more than a year and I suspect that if McCain doesn't hang the empty suit out to dry, the Clinton's somehow will.

McCain also needs to take the gloves off and call BHO out on his terrorist associations during the remaining debates, where the message doesn't get filtered through the MSM. While I know he needs to be careful not to get labeled as having an uncontrolled temper, being Mr. Nice Guy isn't going to win the election either.

If the media won't vet Obama, McCain and Palin must.

Charles is right, the point has likely passed. Obama’s relationship with Ayers is one of his weakest points. Why are Palin and the McCain campaign bringing it up on a Saturday? Do they really expect the MSM to report this? By Monday it will be “old news”.

Hopefully, McCain will hammer the Ayers issue in the next debate.

The way they display this on the link is weird. Very light gray type between gigantic quotation marks. Looks like a whisper. I think it will be very loud soon, though.

re: #18 USA

I disagree. If McCain had used this stuff early, the shock would have worn off and the MSM would have saved Obama bin Biden's bacon. McCain had to keep the power dry. October is the time to set off the fireworks. Day and Night. Every Day.

Favorite Palin line today: "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

Agree 100%!

re: #5 newsjunkie_ky

She can hit him wear it hurts. the msm will spin it to favor obambi.
Later Lizards.

Yup, they're spinning fast and furious. Check out this article, which is currently at the top of Drudge. Excerpts:

Obama, who was a child when [the Weather Underground] was active, served on a charity board with Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and activities.

The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate John McCain's message

Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 2002.

Summing up its findings, the Times wrote: "A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'"

re: #25 kyjed

Do you REALLY expect the msm to report ANYTHING favorable to Repubs, EVER?

re: #23 Son of the Black Dog

McCain also needs to take the gloves off and call BHO out on his terrorist associations during the remaining debates, where the message doesn't get filtered through the MSM. While I know he needs to be careful not to get labeled as having an uncontrolled temper, being Mr. Nice Guy isn't going to win the election either.

Watch the debate Tuesday.
I hear he is going for the throat then

re: #11 DeafDog

"I’m just afraid that the time to “take the gloves off” may have already passed."

Governor Palin cannot save McCain. McCain lost the Presidency when he chose to ignore the American People's wishes and kill the Bail Out bill. Instead of taking a leadership role and fighting for the American people in killing this bill, he instead showed he was part of the problem and looked upon the American People with disdain as the rest of Congress did. With that vote, he lost all claim to be against pork and earmarks, he lost all claim to being the solution to Washington's problems, and he lost all claim to be a leader for the American People. A thousand Sarah Palins cannot save this man.

I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'"

So did Charles Manson.
So it's ok to hang around him now?

re: #25 kyjed

Charles is right, the point has likely passed. Obama’s relationship with Ayers is one of his weakest points. Why are Palin and the McCain campaign bringing it up on a Saturday? Do they really expect the MSM to report this? By Monday it will be “old news”.

Hopefully, McCain will hammer the Ayers issue in the next debate.

If the point has passed, it is only because there never was a point when the MSM would have allowed anything that might have harmed Obama to reach the American public.

re: #25 kyjed

Obama’s relationship with Ayers is one of his weakest points. Why are Palin and the McCain campaign bringing it up on a Saturday?

Do you play cards?

What I love about Sarah is her ability to get to the essence of matters. Take the Ayers story. Now we all know that the details of this story just become more shocking the further you delve into them, however, the problem is that the average American doesn't because the MSM has done such a fine job hiding it.

So Sarah just cuts to the chase: 0bama and Ayers see America differently from you and me.

The beauty of her attack is she did not have to rely on sources that would have been disputed by the MSM, instead she used the MSM itself to launch the attack against 0bama, and at another level attacked the MSM with their own words.

Just brill.

re: #23 Son of the Black Dog

McCain also needs to take the gloves off and call BHO out on his terrorist associations during the remaining debates, where the message doesn't get filtered through the MSM. While I know he needs to be careful not to get labeled as having an uncontrolled temper, being Mr. Nice Guy isn't going to win the election either.

More likely that McCain will defend Palin when she is attacked for speaking the truth. It is the role of the VP to attack. It is now the role of McCain to defend and back up Palin when Obama attacks her: "But Senator, what Gov. Palin said is absolutely true." Palin should also start quoting Joe Biden. "There are some things Senator Biden and I agree on -- at least until he started running for Vice President."

re: #14 Max Darkside

It's only "too late" when the ballots are cast.

I think Sarah is Obama's October Surprise. I believe there is smart strategy behind this. Watch...

YES! Spring it! TURN HER LOOSE TO GO FOR THE COMMIES' THROATS! BLOOD! I WANT FREAKING BLOOD FROM THESE SONOFABITCHES! IT'S TIME TO PUT A STOP TO THIS SOCIALIST BULLSHIT!

_{HYPERVENTILATING I AM}

McCain needs to show some temper. Disrespect for America definitely fires his passion. Let it out Senator.

no way hit once a day for the next 3 weeks Obama will never recover

re: #16 Luigi

Not too far off topic at all. I was unaware of that particular minute aspect of Obama's utter disrespect for America, Americans, American values, American laws, and the lives of Americans. Thanks for posting.

Good for her. That's her role as Veep Nominee, and I'm sure she'll be good at it. McCain can't go there - he's spent a huge amount of time claiming the high moral ground, and simply can't engage in direct mudslinging without appearing to be a hypocrite.

Let Palin and the 501(c)s do this work. You're right - it may be too late. But it's about all that's left, and it needs to be hammered and hammered hard. "Rezko, Ayers and Wright" ought to be chanted at every rally - both McCain's AND Obama's - from now 'til election day.

Somebody ought to dredge up some more of Obama's former coworkers, too, and get their statements on tape up on YouTube.

re: #31 Random63

Governor Palin cannot save McCain. McCain lost the Presidency when he chose to ignore the American People's wishes and kill the Bail Out bill. Instead of taking a leadership role and fighting for the American people in killing this bill, he instead showed he was part of the problem and looked upon the American People with disdain as the rest of Congress did. With that vote, he lost all claim to be against pork and earmarks, he lost all claim to being the solution to Washington's problems, and he lost all claim to be a leader for the American People. A thousand Sarah Palins cannot save this man.

I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

That will only insure a Obama victory

re: #30 Typicalwhitey

Watch the debate Tuesday.
I hear he is going for the throat then

Damn, I sure hope so!

re: #41 SixDegrees

Rather than being too late....don't you think the timing is perfect?
They can hammer this until the election, if they had started too early it would be "old news" by Nov 4th, don't you think?

re: #31 Random63

Governor Palin cannot save McCain. McCain lost the Presidency when he chose to ignore the American People's wishes and kill the Bail Out bill. Instead of taking a leadership role and fighting for the American people in killing this bill, he instead showed he was part of the problem and looked upon the American People with disdain as the rest of Congress did. With that vote, he lost all claim to be against pork and earmarks, he lost all claim to being the solution to Washington's problems, and he lost all claim to be a leader for the American People. A thousand Sarah Palins cannot save this man.

I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

Oh ridiculous.

I’m just afraid that the time to “take the gloves off” may have already passed

.

Game, set, and match to Team Obama, Pelosi, and Paulson. The Dems not only got the money, but also the election. Funny how regional bank Wells Fargo had the liquidity and credit to swing a $15 billion grab for Wachovia - just days after Paulson and the Senate (McCain inclusive) issued thier armegeddon warnings of corporate credit collapse. The GOP it appears will remain the Party of the Stupid. Only a small handfull of GOP House Members had the spine and delebriative ability to tray to slow this "crap sandwich" down. In the end, the Dems not only secured Wall St (the belly of the Democratic Beast if there ever was one) $700 billion in taxpayers money (to be distributed as Obama sees fit come January), but they also got an extra $200 billion in tax breaks, cap and trade legislation, and mental health money.

Pelosi, Reid, and Paulson played McCain's gambit beautifully last Monday. But they also proved once and for all that they put nothing before thier own quest for power -not even the $2 trillion in lost equity worldwide. Investors beware. The financial capital is not Wall St anymore, but The Beltway. The smart money will begin to find safer harbors in overseas exchages, non-dollar denominated stocks and or hard commodities like gold, oil, and grain futures.

McCain cannot win now. Obama, who all but disappeared these last 2 weeks, simply has allowed events work in his favor. The GOP and McCain are going to take in the chin come November; we can only hope the GOP can at least retain 41 Senate seats.

The Palin-Biden sideshow last Thursday was just that -a side show.

re: #31 Random63

With that vote, he lost all claim to be against pork and earmarks, he lost all claim to being the solution to Washington's problems, and he lost all claim to be a leader for the American People.

Baloney

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

Double baloney. Moby

re: #31 Random63

Her time will come, she's only 44. This isn't that time.

She can hit him wear it hurts. the msm will spin it to favor obambi.
Later Lizards.

It's not about the MSM. It's about the electorate and what they'll make of such connections.

Shake that tree. There are more nuts up there.

re: #25 kyjed

Charles is right, the point has likely passed. Obama’s relationship with Ayers is one of his weakest points. Why are Palin and the McCain campaign bringing it up on a Saturday? Do they really expect the MSM to report this? By Monday it will be “old news”.

Hopefully, McCain will hammer the Ayers issue in the next debate.

Because it's the first salvo in a multi-salvo campaign?

First Ayers, then Rezco, then Wright .... mix in the other names too.

How many hits a day does DRUDGE get?
TOP two stories:
Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists...

'This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America'...

re: #32 Typicalwhitey

So did Charles Manson.
So it's ok to hang around him now?

Excellent post TW!

I join the people who say too late is November 5th. If Hussein wins, I'll just hope and pray his undoubtedly only one term will not screw us over much and join the Palin '12 campaign.

The McCain campaign has indicated it will step up its attacks on Obama's character and judgment in the final month of campaigning.

Wasn't it just two or three weeks ago when McCain was ahead in the polls and Obama's supporters were telling him fight back? Four weeks left - enough time, I hope.

Did someone put out a Moby Action Alert? LOL.

re: #31 Random63

I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

Grow up and stop thinking of ways to waste your vote. If you can't vote in clear conscience for McCain, think of voting the ticket to jumpstart Palin's national career, or think of it as keeping the SCOTUS from going radical left.

Every vote is going to count on November 4 and politics is the art of compromise so you're never going to get 100% of what you want.
;)

re: #44 Typicalwhitey

re: #44 Typicalwhitey

Rather than being too late....don't you think the timing is perfect?
They can hammer this until the election, if they had started too early it would be "old news" by Nov 4th, don't you think?

I hope this is true. But we're running out of time, and the polls are currently running in the wrong direction.

re: #31 Random63

Governor Palin cannot save McCain. McCain lost the Presidency when he chose to ignore the American People's wishes and kill the Bail Out bill. Instead of taking a leadership role and fighting for the American people in killing this bill, he instead showed he was part of the problem and looked upon the American People with disdain as the rest of Congress did. With that vote, he lost all claim to be against pork and earmarks, he lost all claim to being the solution to Washington's problems, and he lost all claim to be a leader for the American People. A thousand Sarah Palins cannot save this man.

I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

If you do that, you are a twit. I hope Obambi sends you to the re-deucation/diversity camp first.

BTW - Palin can save McCain, but Palin can serve the traditional VP role of being the attack dog.

I told some Lib friends about Rezko and Ayers, they were taken aback. They never had heard word one about the relationships. This could affect folks in the middle. And it's not to late- In fact, this is the perfect time, 30 days from the election, to raise these questionable associations. This way, the story will not fade in the memory of the electorate. Good move, McCain campaign!

McCain's never understood who the enemy is. The enemy is the media, not Obama. Obama is the symptom, not the disease. Time and again McCain underestimated the viciousness of the media's onslaught. He did not recognize their unwillingness to ask Obama the hard questions. He completely misjudged the rulebook on their campaign against Palin.

McCain, an Annapolis and US Army War College graduate, is shrewd and bold, but he does not know whom he is fighting in this war. Because of that, he fell afoul of a fighter pilot's best advice: "Watch your six."

pant, pant...

Wotta woman! Too bad for Nobama he and the rest of the democrats have problems with strong, uppity women. We have to give the libs eternal grief about this. We have to attack them for being anti-female and anti-feminist. The irony alarms must be sounded!

Hey, what's that roaring sound?

One more thing - remember hwo McCain was ahead three weeks ago? That was less time than what's left before the election.

re: #38 The Shadow Do

McCain needs to show some temper. Disrespect for America definitely fires his passion. Let it out Senator.

I don't think that will help. For at least the past eight years since he's been in the public spotlight, McCain has been a placid, good-natured guy who hams it up on Letterman and SNL, and is in general classy and agreeable. But somehow the Lunatic Left has sold the idea that he's hot-tempered and quick to fly into a rage. Providing evidence for that myth could hurt him.

Nevertheless, someone has to start talking about Obama's activities over the past 30 years or so, which are so objectionable that they make it absolutely unthinkable that he would get even 1% of the vote in a presidential election.

Bring it, Sarah. It's never too late to tell the truth.

re: #10 red satellite

"Our opponent though is someone who sees America it seems as being so imperfect..."

Welcome to Liberalism 101 Sarah.

One of the hardest things a politician has to do is make plain in 30 second sound bites what is convoluted and involves intellectual investment otherwise.

This is why she was picked.

re: #16 Luigi

I hope this doesn't seem too off-topic. It goes straight to the issue of how much respect Obama has for the law. Harvard Law School didn't seem to help much in that area.

[Link: wbztv.com...]

So, the only time to worry about the law is when other people might saw that you broke it. Way to go, Barry!

re: #31 Random63

Your personal self interest is not becoming. You're missing the message of the election.

While I was in a prison cell at Hanoi, Obamas friend was bombing the New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972.

It's traditional for the VP candidate to be the attack dog, or pit bull.

As far as the timing goes, the McCain campaign couldn't go negative on this until the bailout was resolved. Bush almost lost in 2000 because he started to coast a little near the end. So don't get cocky; don't give up.

I just had a thought.

Do you think that Sarah is the one saying these things because the MSM pays attention when she speaks?
I think they would ignore it if McCain said it.

But she get front page coverage when she says it!

re: #31 Random63
I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

That's just silly and hyper emotional. This is not the time for single-minded displays of "I'll show them!' You win the battle first and prepare for 2012. That's how adults do it. Sorry if that's harsh but your point is ridiculous irrespective of how much we all love Sarah.

re: #58 Irene NYC

Grow up and stop thinking of ways to waste your vote. If you can't vote in clear conscience for McCain, think of voting the ticket to jumpstart Palin's national career, or think of it as keeping the SCOTUS from going radical left.

Every vote is going to count on November 4 and politics is the art of compromise so you're never going to get 100% of what you want.
;)

Amen to that. This election is too close and too important to waste votes on symbolic gestures that will go completely unnoticed.

If you want to see Palin as President, the surest way to get her there is through the White House, as an incumbent VP. Trying to resurrect her after picking her out of the crashed-and-burned wreckage of a failed McCain campaign puts her in a weaker position, not a stronger one.

re: #61 GregInSeattle

I told some Lib friends about Rezko and Ayers, they were taken aback. They never had heard word one about the relationships. This could affect folks in the middle. And it's not to late- In fact, this is the perfect time, 30 days from the election, to raise these questionable associations. This way, the story will not fade in the memory of the electorate. Good move, McCain campaign!

I agree - the media is totally in the tank for Obama. The VP has to be the attack dog - and Palin is the perfect attack dog. She will chew your ass while smiling that smile. Attack every day from now until Nov 4th. Put the dems and the MSM on defense. The more the MSM defends this crap the more they will expose themselves as being part of Bambi's campaign.

Palin is a leader. McCain is a consensus builder, trying to be all things to all people. John needs to take some lessons from his running mate and play to win, not play to be nice to the opposition.

/hope it's not too late

re: #46 jpkoch

I'm sure glad the surrender-first crowd wasn't in the Omaha, Gold or Sword sections of Normandy.

RUCK UP TROOP!

re: #31 Random63

Governor Palin cannot save McCain. McCain lost the Presidency when he chose to ignore the American People's wishes and kill the Bail Out bill. Instead of taking a leadership role and fighting for the American people in killing this bill, he instead showed he was part of the problem and looked upon the American People with disdain as the rest of Congress did. With that vote, he lost all claim to be against pork and earmarks, he lost all claim to being the solution to Washington's problems, and he lost all claim to be a leader for the American People. A thousand Sarah Palins cannot save this man.

Who are you trying to fool?

I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

She couldn't, she's a Governor. Your point is moot.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

Okay. So your casting your vote for Obama. Good for you.

re: #65 Last Mohican

I'd like to see some straight up, honest indignation. No need to fly off the handle, but let's see some spark Senator.

re: #72 Typicalwhitey

It's all part of the Rovian master plan! Bwaaaa haaa haaa

re: #42 joekowalski247

Well I'm not sure that a McCain victory will be any better than a Obama victory after watching him vote for this socialist bailout.

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

McCain has always been good about screwing over conservatives, but this time he chose to screw over America. He could have suspended his campaign and defended America's wishes by opposing this bailout, but he instead showed he is part of the Washington crowd, and only a "Maverick" when it comes to defying America's wishes.

I will not vote for him and I will write in Governor Palin's name on my ballot.

I’m just afraid that the time to “take the gloves off” may have already passed.

Charles I fought a couple professional fights.
And I promise you.

It only takes a few minutes to whip someones ass.

Or to get my ass whipped X:(

re: #31 Random63

Governor Palin cannot save McCain. McCain lost the Presidency when he chose to ignore the American People's wishes and kill the Bail Out bill. Instead of taking a leadership role and fighting for the American people in killing this bill, he instead showed he was part of the problem and looked upon the American People with disdain as the rest of Congress did. With that vote, he lost all claim to be against pork and earmarks, he lost all claim to being the solution to Washington's problems, and he lost all claim to be a leader for the American People. A thousand Sarah Palins cannot save this man.

I am not going to vote for John McCain. I am going to write in Governor Sarah Palin as President. She is the only one of the four that didn't vote for this bail out and spit in America's face.

Write in Governor Sarah Palin for President.

Now there is a dumb idea. sheesh

re: #45 kynna

Is that you, Charles Krauthammer?

4 weeks ago, we thought McCain was in the drivers seat. So there is no reason at all to think he can't turn it around now.

Doing nothing while the banking system collapsed would have handed the election to the Dems. Would the banking system have collapsed? I don't know, but it was not worth the risk. Regardless, that's yesterday's battle. Feel glad that McCain & the House reps were at least able to improve the bill - taking out the egregious provisions on ACORN.

The battle before us is on November 4. It's possible to win it, but it will be tight.

I am amused by these voters who think that if Sen. McCain doesn't personally come to my doorstep and listen to me I won't vote for him. The country is over everything is lost.

What a riot.

McCain, for only reasons he knows, decided to ignore Obama's ties to Ayers, the $168,000 he accepted from Fannie/Freddie, and the fact that both Johnson and Raines were at one time his campaign consultants.

What is strange is the silence from virtually the entire GOP establishment concerning the Dems and Fannie/Freddie. Not a peep out of the RNC or the House GOP caucus concerning Barney Frank and the House Dems involvement in protecting these 2 rotten institutions.

Strange.

Fox needs to investigate this:
Babysitting

"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough." In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World revolutionaries conquer and destroy it. Taking charge of the podium, dressed in a high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast." Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!

Embarrassed today by this memory, but unable to expunge it from the record and unwilling to repudiate her terrorist deeds, Dorhn resorts to the lie direct. "It was a joke," she told the sympathetic Times reporter, Dinitia Smith; she was actually protesting America’s crimes. "We were mocking violence in America. Even in my most inflamed moment I never supported a racist mass murderer."

Lovely babysitter!

re: #64 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

One more thing - remember hwo McCain was ahead three weeks ago? That was less time than what's left before the election.

Wait let me crunch the numbers real quick. Let's see, add the number of weeks, carry the 4, huh, the election is exactly 32 days from today. Add the one and - yep - thats more than three weeks!

re: #15 reine.de.tout

Agreed!

Palin just said that obama has been "palling around with terrorists."

OMG - "He doesn't see America, like you or I see America." -Sarah says

WOW!

re: #44 Typicalwhitey

Rather than being too late....don't you think the timing is perfect?
They can hammer this until the election, if they had started too early it would be "old news" by Nov 4th, don't you think?

I agree with ya, the public has a short attention span it is time now to bring it on hard and dirty as it is. The dirt is not dirty pool it is just the truth.

re: #46 jpkoch
Sorry but you are laughable.

re: #87 jpkoch

McCain, for only reasons he knows, decided to ignore Obama's ties to Ayers, the $168,000 he accepted from Fannie/Freddie, and the fact that both Johnson and Raines were at one time his campaign consultants.

What is strange is the silence from virtually the entire GOP establishment concerning the Dems and Fannie/Freddie. Not a peep out of the RNC or the House GOP caucus concerning Barney Frank and the House Dems involvement in protecting these 2 rotten institutions.

Strange.

Maybe, just MAYBE he is saving that for the debate Tuesday.
Isn't it on ECONOMICS?
You owe me a wine cooler if I am right ;)

re: #47 The Shadow Do

Double baloney. Moby

I'm not sure what "Moby" means, but I do know it's meant to be offensive. If you can't debate with someone that disagrees with you in an adult manner, then you do not belong on this site. Grownups debate and talk here in a civil manner. You want to call people offensive names, flame them, or curse them, then go to Kos. They will welcome that type of behavior there.

re: #82 Random63

Well I'm not sure that a McCain victory will be any better than a Obama victory after watching him vote for this socialist bailout.

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

McCain has always been good about screwing over conservatives, but this time he chose to screw over America. He could have suspended his campaign and defended America's wishes by opposing this bailout, but he instead showed he is part of the Washington crowd, and only a "Maverick" when it comes to defying America's wishes.

I will not vote for him and I will write in Governor Palin's name on my ballot.

You will win your battle - but lose the war.

re: #82 Random63

Your psychology is bad. It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face. Time to get a few beers and re think yourself.

re: #82 Random63

Well I'm not sure that a McCain victory will be any better than a Obama victory after watching him vote for this socialist bailout.

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

McCain has always been good about screwing over conservatives, but this time he chose to screw over America. He could have suspended his campaign and defended America's wishes by opposing this bailout, but he instead showed he is part of the Washington crowd, and only a "Maverick" when it comes to defying America's wishes.

I will not vote for him and I will write in Governor Palin's name on my ballot.

Hmmm, smells like gamey troll buttocks are going to served for lunch...

The Rev. Wright and bitter-clingy stuff has to be resuscitated and replayed over and over, IMHO.
I would like to see an ad pointing out that the creed of Obama's church, outside of being overtly racist, disparages "middleclassness" as a sin.

I would like to see the anti-white passages in Obama's books aired.
I'd especially like to see an ad featuring the passages where he talks about manipulating whites by being so affable and charming and how gullible they are. (Since he read the book for a recording, you can have him speaking those words.) All of those people who feel sooooooooo progressive voting for Obama will think twice if they think they're being duped.
Why the hell isn't McCain doing this?

re: #82 Random63

Gamey buttocks afoot?

re: #61 GregInSeattle

I told some Lib friends about Rezko and Ayers, they were taken aback. They never had heard word one about the relationships. This could affect folks in the middle. And it's not to late- In fact, this is the perfect time, 30 days from the election, to raise these questionable associations. This way, the story will not fade in the memory of the electorate. Good move, McCain campaign!

I've had similar experiences. They are all so far gone, however, that they make weak excuses for their Master.

The Rezko involvement in Obmba's home purchase is toxic - especially in the wake of the real estate scandal.

re: #64 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

One more thing - remember hwo McCain was ahead three weeks ago? That was less time than what's left before the election.

It's 4 weeks until the election.

re: #77 Sol Roth

I'm sure glad the surrender-first crowd wasn't in the Omaha, Gold or Sword sections of Normandy.

RUCK UP TROOP!

Who's surrendering. I've voted GOP since I was 18 in 1980, and I know my party. If you really think that either McCain or the GOP in general have it in them to win this election you are clearly deluded. I watched the GOP's steady decline since 1986, and this has all the makings of a rout. It wasn't me that pulled my election team out of Michigan without a fight. And, it wasn't me who made one of the most conservative states in the US (Indiana) competitive. Hell, if Obama is competitive in Indiana McCain is in deep, deep trouble.

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

I blacked out McCains name McCain/Palin on my bumper sticker.

get lots of honks,
esp. from pretty women.

re: #82 Random63

Well I'm not sure that a McCain victory will be any better than a Obama victory after watching him vote for this socialist bailout.

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

You do know that Obama's supporters (like Kerry's in 04) go around ripping those signs out and/or defacing them, right? Someone did it to my neighbor just yesterday.

McCain has always been good about screwing over conservatives, but this time he chose to screw over America. He could have suspended his campaign and defended America's wishes by opposing this bailout, but he instead showed he is part of the Washington crowd, and only a "Maverick" when it comes to defying America's wishes.

I will not vote for him and I will write in Governor Palin's name on my ballot.

Why even bother to vote? Why not just spend the next four years bitching about how things didn't go your way? Sounds like what you do best.

re: #97 hazzyday

Your psychology is bad. It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face. Time to get a few beers and re think yourself.

Actually I believe it's called trolling....

re: #9 armytramp

No offense to you armytramp but I thought that article was useless blather of the Tom Friedman/Fareed Zakaria stripe. More of the usual "terrorists are just marginalized youts we need to understand" nonsense, nothing about Jihadism/Islamic Supremacism as a motivating ideology, terrorist connections with state sponsors such as Iran, the usual "we are the world" globalist techno-tripe I've come to expect from WIRED.
I'm not surprised this guy is head of security for British Telecom, unfortunately Great Britain is well on the way to becoming Dhimmi Britain.

It's not too late--in fact, it may be just the right time to keep this info fresh in voters' minds as they pull the lever.

You can't keep a fever pitch going forever. Better now than last summer, right?

I did not bring children into this world to raise them as Democrat socialists.

Got socialist?

Vote Obama.

re: #95 Random63

I'm not sure what "Moby" means, but I do know it's meant to be offensive. If you can't debate with someone that disagrees with you in an adult manner, then you do not belong on this site. Grownups debate and talk here in a civil manner. You want to call people offensive names, flame them, or curse them, then go to Kos. They will welcome that type of behavior there.

Ok I will debate you in a civil manner.

My nephew was killed in Iraq. Obama said we were "bombing villages and killing civilians"
I know from first hand experience that is not true. I can show you pics of my nephew, palling around with the kids over there.
They LIKED him and thanked him.

I met Senator McCain at a town hall in KCMO. I gave him a picture of my nephew and asked him a question about the war.
After the town hall, he came over and hugged me and my sister and had tears in his eyes and told me " I will never forget his sacrifice".

Perhaps that will show you who the true American is, who the real man is who should lead our country.
Please think about it.

re: #105 Lynn B.

PIMF ... blockquote function refresher course coming up

re: #107 Colonel Panik

No offense to you armytramp but I thought that article was useless blather of the Tom Friedman/Fareed Zakaria stripe. More of the usual "terrorists are just marginalized youts we need to understand" nonsense, nothing about Jihadism/Islamic Supremacism as a motivating ideology, terrorist connections with state sponsors such as Iran, the usual "we are the world" globalist techno-tripe I've come to expect from WIRED.
I'm not surprised this guy is head of security for British Telecom, unfortunately Great Britain is well on the way to becoming Dhimmi Britain.

They aren't Christians or Boy Scouts so in a vaccuum they became terrorists.

re: #51 Typicalwhitey

How many hits a day does DRUDGE get?
TOP two stories:
Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists...

'This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America'...

We need more of this as the days to the ballot decrease.

This one is revealing, too. Another Obama friend being looked at by the FBI:

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

He was close to Walsh:
Obama formed tight friendships with three white Senate colleagues whose backgrounds and personalities couldn't have been more different from his.

There was the blunt-talking Denny Jacobs from the Quad Cities, and Larry Walsh from Elwood, whose "aw-shucks" demeanor belied deft political skills.

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

This reminds me of the days before Clinton was elected, as all the tales of his Bimbo shenanigans surfaced. At this rate, I predict Obama will have to deal with at least 1 or 2 friends under investigation in his 1st term. Some are saying Rezko is telling tales in an attempt to minimize his prison sentence (I guess he might not like prison), so we may well see more of this kind of stuff around Obama. Maybe what they say about Chicago politics is true?

re: #99 wolfie

The Rev. Wright and bitter-clingy stuff has to be resuscitated and replayed over and over, IMHO.
I would like to see an ad pointing out that the creed of Obama's church, outside of being overtly racist, disparages "middleclassness" as a sin.

I would like to see the anti-white passages in Obama's books aired.
I'd especially like to see an ad featuring the passages where he talks about manipulating whites by being so affable and charming and how gullible they are. (Since he read the book for a recording, you can have him speaking those words.) All of those people who feel sooooooooo progressive voting for Obama will think twice if they think they're being duped.
Why the hell isn't McCain doing this?

Ooooh! OOOOOOOOOOOOOH! So much material!

What I fear people will think when learning about Ayers is "how bad can he really be if he's working for the goverment teaching our children instead of in prison? This is just another Republican hatchet job!"

It is never too late to point out the unpleasant truths about the terrorist-coddling (AYERS), racist-cuddlling (WRIGHT) ,crook-cradling (REZKO) cretin Obama.

The short attn. span [sic] of the undecideds, in fact, necessitates late eviscerations of such empty suits as Barry the radical community organizer.

re: #95 Random63

I'm not sure what "Moby" means, but I do know it's meant to be offensive. If you can't debate with someone that disagrees with you in an adult manner, then you do not belong on this site. Grownups debate and talk here in a civil manner. You want to call people offensive names, flame them, or curse them, then go to Kos. They will welcome that type of behavior there.

Your comment was either:
a. Classic Moby, or
b. Overheated to the point of silly

So, I could have been wrong in my statement

re: #103 jpkoch

Me too, I've been voting Republican since Reagan's second term. I changed my registration to Independent after the illegal alien amnesty fiasco.

And, look up my history before you start throwing around the "troll" moniker.

It's not too late.

BTW - Unwritten Lizard Rule #206:
You must have at leat 2000 posts before you can tell another poster that they "don't belong".

I had a conversation with a moonbat associate recently, and he was full of the Dem talking points "Ayers did that stuff when Obama was a baby" and "They were only neighbors".

I told him that the beginning of Obama's political career was a fundraiser at Ayers home, and he couldn't believe it. "Why have I never heard of this?"

And that just about sums it up. Most of the country is STILL not aware of Obama's long standing connection with Ayers.

Not only how Obama's political career started at Ayers' home, but how Obama and Ayers worked together to distribute $100 million in grant money.

The Ayers group had 3 terrorists that blew themselves up by accident. The bomb was intended for a soldiers and their girlfriends and wives at Fort Dix New Jersey to be planted at a NCO dance. It was filled with nails and ball bearings for maximum damage.

re: #83 ibmkeyboard

"It only takes a few minutes to whip someones ass".

That is the truth.

re: #119 The Shadow Do

Your comment was either:
a. Classic Moby, or
b. Overheated to the point of silly

So, I could have been wrong in my statement

Only The Shadow knows...

This young woman personifies moxie. She has got integrity & a fighting spirit.
Ironically, a Republican campaign worker was just at the door & promised a McCain /Palin yard sign.

No Charles it is not too late, the timing is good IMHO; there is a short interval from high interest to boredom and burnout.

Plus Palin has the public's ear, right past the media filters as she called them.

Go Sarah!

re: #120 Random63

Me too, I've been voting Republican since Reagan's second term. I changed my registration to Independent after the illegal alien amnesty fiasco.

And, look up my history before you start throwing around the "troll" moniker.

Random63

40 something Aerospace professional.

Registered since: Jan 7, 2007 at 1:34 pm
No. of comments posted: 229
No. of links posted: 0

I think that kind of say it all...

re: #104 ibmkeyboard

I blacked out McCains name McCain/Palin on my bumper sticker.

get lots of honks,
esp. from pretty women.

That is acceptable - especially if you are scoring points with ladies.

But please don't adopt the goofy Random63 idea.

I wish McCain was a better candidate. Hell, I wish Obama was a better candidate. But more importantly, if Obama wins he plans on changing America in ways that will take decades to correct. Look at his home state. Look at how he has performed on his previous jobs. Disastrous.

See below:

re: #167 Taqyia2Me

Got the email pasted below, sent it to everybody in my addressbook, thought it deserves more audience because Illinois is also a blue state in a BIG financial mess (read: meltdown):

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?
Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago; 221 killed in Iraq.
Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin,
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.,
Gov. Rod Blogojevich,
House leader Mike Madigan,
Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),
Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)
.....our leadership in Illinois.....all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.
Of course, they're all blaming each other.
Can't blame Republicans; they're aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look 'em up if you want).
Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us!? SURE!

re: #88 USA

Actually, Bernadine Dohrn has higher name recognition than Bill Ayers. She is the name Americans of a certain age think of when the subject of the SDS/Weathermen pops up. The title of the next McCain attack ad should be "Who are Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, and why did Obama launch his political career in their living room?"

She's the best weapon we got - they are afraid to attack her in person because it looks bad (although their mainstream media lapdogs have no qualms about that), so she should be turned loose in all her glory.

re: #123 DistantThunder

Took out a whole apartment building as I recall. I'll see if I can google it.

What needs to be said is how all those people on that fateful day of 9/11,walked into the World Trade Center with the NY Times tucked under their armpit containing an article about William Ayers and how he had not done enough and was un-repentant for his acts of terrorism. They would soon learn how hate can truly become personal, not just brushing it off as something that happened years ago.

just hope there's a good steady barrage of this

end all national ads with wright's "G_d damn America" and BO standing without his hand over his heart.
beat the hell out of him with the scum he surround himself with.

The voters have ADHD. (Who remembers Reverend Wright?) I think this is just the right time to introduce the story of Ayers.

/and Rezko
//and ACORN
///and Alinsky & Marshall
////and Khalidi...

re: #117 Born Again Republican

What I fear people will think when learning about Ayers is "how bad can he really be if he's working for the goverment teaching our children instead of in prison? This is just another Republican hatchet job!"

I think most Americans boomer-age or older will have little difficulty understanding "The Weathermen" and what they stood for. And it won't be to 0bama's credit. They may even wonder why it took so long to hear about it.
;)

It'd be great if she'd point out that because of his relationship with Ayers he could not get security clearance at our government facilities. I live near a nuclear plant and everyone here agrees he'd be denied.

re: #131 MrPaulRevere

Actually, Bernadine Dohrn has higher name recognition than Bill Ayers. She is the name Americans of a certain age think of when the subject of the SDS/Weathermen pops up. The title of the next McCain attack ad should be "Who are Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, and why did Obama launch his political career in their living room?"

Can you imagine leaving your children with that woman?

It's been a good morning.

While I was out of the house doing errands, I met a WWII vet and shook his hand. I thanked him for his service.

When I returned home, two neighborhood ladies waited for me to get out of the car and told me how much they liked my yard sign.

"I already have a savior, what I need is a President"

re: #111 Typicalwhitey

That's an emotional story. I'm sorry for your loss, but thank you for sharing.

re: #117 Born Again Republican

I agree. I don't think the Ayers connection is the weak point.
I would concentrate on Obama's connections with racists/anti-semites and various shakedown operations (ACORN, Fannie& Fred, etc.)

kynna (#57),

Did someone put out a Moby Action Alert? LOL.

The election is getting close. The sock-puppets are getting frisky.

need a surge in chicago commercial.
point out that BO's big "change" in Illinois is more deaths there than in Iraq

re: #121 jamgarr

It's not too late.

BTW - Unwritten Lizard Rule #206:
You must have at leat 2000 posts before you can tell another poster that they "don't belong".

Thanks for sharing that, too. What are rules 1 - 205?

Post count alone doesn't mean much. You have to go read the posts before drawing a conclusion with any meaning.

re: #82 Random63

Well I'm not sure that a McCain victory will be any better than a Obama victory after watching him vote for this socialist bailout.

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

McCain has always been good about screwing over conservatives, but this time he chose to screw over America. He could have suspended his campaign and defended America's wishes by opposing this bailout, but he instead showed he is part of the Washington crowd, and only a "Maverick" when it comes to defying America's wishes.

I will not vote for him and I will write in Governor Palin's name on my ballot.

Just FYI, the McCain/Palin signs are being stolen.

And if you do, indeed, write in Palin's name for Prez, make sure you are prepared for a President Obama.

re: #131 MrPaulRevere

I don't think most American's realize what she said about Sharon Tate, 8 months pregnant

Dig it: first they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach. Wild!”

Americans need to be asked:

Why did Obama launch his political career in this woman's livingroom?

I think McCain had to handle the Demorats with kid gloves because of the 'vote' He thought it was right. And he believed it would save American jobs or some American jobs.
Now that he has the 'vote' he has turned Sarah loose.
He knows after 4 years of President and probably 2 years of deep recession,
His job will be over and Palin will be running against the Beast Hillary.

She is getting into shape for President.

/As if she needed any more shape?

re: #141 DeafDog

That's an emotional story. I'm sorry for your loss, but thank you for sharing.

Thank you. He was 20 and left behind a 9 month old son. But he said he was doing it so his son would not have to go over there later.
Great kid he was!

I guess my point in telling the story is, that there are those of us who have a little more skin in the game and we do not want his sacrifice to be for nothing.
If we pull out willy nilly like obama wants to, then what was this all for?

McCain knows how to win this war, he was the one pushing for the surge and I want my nephews sacrifice to mean something!
He didn't die so that we could elect someone who restricts freedom (see the many posts I have made on the Missouri Truth (goon) Squads).
He went to preserve and protect our freedom!

The election is still close. McCain is still in this thing. I do not understand why so many posters are whimpering "all is lost". What is he down? 4-5 points - depending on the pollster? That is nothing!

Watch the movie 300 again if find yourself wanting to crawl up into a ball cry.

re: #82 Random63

Well I'm not sure that a McCain victory will be any better than a Obama victory after watching him vote for this socialist bailout.

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

McCain has always been good about screwing over conservatives, but this time he chose to screw over America. He could have suspended his campaign and defended America's wishes by opposing this bailout, but he instead showed he is part of the Washington crowd, and only a "Maverick" when it comes to defying America's wishes.

I will not vote for him and I will write in Governor Palin's name on my ballot.

Writing in Palin's name won't even register as a protest vote. The Secretary of State in your state will likely not even announce how many votes each write-in candidate gets.

Voting for McCain will help along Palin toward taking the White House in 2012 or 2016. If you are serious about favoring her over McCain, then vote her into the Vice Presidency so she can transition smoothly into the Oval Office down the road.

If you're not serious, you're just sounding ridiculous.

THe Ayers/Obama connection needs to be hammerd & hammered.
Obama/Rezko needs to be explained over & over.
I think that Sarah Palin gets it & I hope that the entire campaign has got it.

I think the timing is good. Look how the Wright information has flared and burned out already. They need to bring up a scandal a day with Obama, all of which can be backed up with evidence (shouldn't be hard). The ones who scream "Dirty politics" for telling the truth about him weren't going to vote against him anyway but the people still making up their minds are the ones we're trying to reach.

You're all raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacists!

/do i need the tag?

//probably!

re: #111 Typicalwhitey

First of all, I am so sorry for your loss. My youngest brother is serving over there right now with his Stryker battalion (did I spell that right?). I worry about him every day and I am very proud of him. I cannot imagine what you and your family went through and I thank you for his service and sacrifice. He is a hero, as is my brother, and they humble me.

I am glad you got to meet McCain and size him up. I have not had that opportunity and can only go by his actions. I don't want to see Obama win, but I don't want McCain either. Both men, as far as I am concerned are not the right man for the job. I actually believe it to be Governor Palin and will give her my full support if and when she runs for president.

McCain had the chance to lead and shake things up in Washington. He chose not too, but instead chose to pass a 455 bloated, earmarked, and pork bail out for wall street banks and every state that is now lining up for handouts. I'm not even sure this bill is actually going to help those with defaulted mortgages as the so called original intent was.

He voted against overwhelming wishes of the American people who saw this bill as nothing but a money and power grab marching us closer to socialism. He voted with his Washington crowd that he always so proudly claims he detests. Actions speak louder than words, and McCain spoke very loud about his true feelings and loyalty when he cast this vote for socialism and Washington and told the American people to suck it up and send another trillion out of their wallets.

What he did was wrong and it cost him the election that day.

re: #129 DeafDog

That is acceptable - especially if you are scoring points with ladies.

But please don't adopt the goofy Random63 idea.

NEVER-

but I do enjoy having a good time.

Will change it back 2 weeks before the Bambi meltdown.

re: #123 DistantThunder

Weather Underground Greenwich Village townhouse demolition in a "work accident".

re: #145 DeafDog

Thanks for sharing that, too. What are rules 1 - 205?

You don't find out until you have 1500 posts. The secret Zionista checks don't start going out until 5000 posts.

re: #86 hazzyday

I am amused by these voters who think that if Sen. McCain doesn't personally come to my doorstep and listen to me I won't vote for him. The country is over everything is lost.

What a riot.

I am glad you find it amusing, and I am not being sarcastic when I type that: I wish I could find it amusing as well.

Instead, I find it gee-dee irritating! In fact, it pisses me off quite a bit. I am sick of reading the whiny tantrums of selfish children who threaten to take their ball and go home, more committed to a their pet issue than they are to their country.

This ain't just another election, this is "one for the history books". Seriously, I think we are facing an opposition party that may well try to re-write history books in an Orwellian way.

re: #151 Racer X

The election is still close. McCain is still in this thing. I do not understand why so many posters are whimpering "all is lost". What is he down? 4-5 points - depending on the pollster? That is nothing!

Watch the movie 300 again if find yourself wanting to crawl up into a ball cry.

The polls are mostly controlled by the left.

re: #137 Irene NYC

I think most Americans boomer-age or older will have little difficulty understanding "The Weathermen" and what they stood for. And it won't be to 0bama's credit. They may even wonder why it took so long to hear about it.
;)

Bingo

Some random thoughts:

It may not be coincidence, this credit crisis---why the margin calls 5 weeks before elections---something that would place economic issues at the forefront? Hey, Barry's got lots of friends in finance. Not just Soros.

I'm reminded of games of spades I used to play with my other Longhorns in the Jester study lounge. They could count cards. I never mastered that. What I did learn was how to tell in a couple of hands what kind of hand my opponents (and partners) had by the way they played the game.

If you had a bunch of low to moderate spades and the King, you really wanted to draw out the Ace before playing the King. You do that by taking tricks in a suit the other guy is short in until he has to either play his Ace or he and his partner are set. Once the other guy is forced to trump and trump high, you are left with all of the highest spades, and can take the remaining tricks.

re: #103 jpkoch

Who's surrendering. I've voted GOP since I was 18 in 1980, and I know my party. If you really think that either McCain or the GOP in general have it in them to win this election you are clearly deluded. I watched the GOP's steady decline since 1986, and this has all the makings of a rout. It wasn't me that pulled my election team out of Michigan without a fight. And, it wasn't me who made one of the most conservative states in the US (Indiana) competitive. Hell, if Obama is competitive in Indiana McCain is in deep, deep trouble.

I understand how we've been snakebit by RINOs up until now. But please tell us how defeatist talk will help? I'd really like to know.

re: #148 Nightlight

I don't think most American's realize what she said about Sharon Tate, 8 months pregnant

Dig it: first they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach. Wild!”

Americans need to be asked:

Why did Obama launch his political career in this woman's livingroom?

That woman is depraved. She now tries to say it was "a joke". It's still depraved, sweetie.

Did people see the Rasmussen poll that has Biden winning the debate 45% to Palin 37%! Don't you have to be accurate in your arguments to win a debate? Today's values are in the toilet!

re: #136 littleoldlady

From your link:

Khalidi's wife Mona ran the Chicago area charity, the Arab American Action Network, that received substantial assistance from the Woods Fund, a left wing foundation that Obama and unreconstructed terrorist Bill Ayers were Board members. The AAAN was notorious for its pro-Palestianian sympathies.

Palling around with terrorists, indeed.

re: #111 Typicalwhitey

Ok I will debate you in a civil manner.

My nephew was killed in Iraq. Obama said we were "bombing villages and killing civilians"
I know from first hand experience that is not true. I can show you pics of my nephew, palling around with the kids over there.
They LIKED him and thanked him.

I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. But the fact remains that we have bombed villages and killed civilians. That's not debatable.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

[Link: www.boston.com...]

But the civilian deaths did not occur because US soldiers are bloodthirsty monsters. It's because civilian deaths are the inevitable byproduct of too much reliance on air strikes rather than more troops, like your nephew, on the ground.

re: #127 Ojoe

No Charles it is not too late, the timing is good IMHO; there is a short interval from high interest to boredom and burnout.

Plus Palin has the public's ear, right past the media filters as she called them.

Go Sarah!

This is about when most voters begin to consider the candidates seriously -- up until now, voting has been a theoretical future, but in October, it sinks in that Election Day is coming right up and will demand a choice: whether to vote and who to vote for. (As we well know, most eligible Americans will choose not to vote.)

re: #148 Nightlight

RIGHT ON! the correct order of names should be Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers. I just turned 49, but I remembered her name instantly when Ayers and his ties to Obama became an issue.

re: #104 ibmkeyboard

I blacked out McCains name McCain/Palin on my bumper sticker.

get lots of honks,
esp. from pretty women.

Obama Camp people are deliberately removing signs and vandalizing vehicles, Koz Kidz has a post to get them started.

Random63 (#82),

Listen, I walk every morning. On my route I never see a Obama sign, but always see McCain/Palin signs. There are usually over a dozen signs posted on that 2 mile stretch. This morning, every sign was gone except for one and it had McCain's name scratched out.

Oh forfend all is lost.

Oh and I do love how you reason that you'll Write in Palin because she (like I) didn't vote for the bailout. Because she (like I) couldn't in any case.

But do keep trying, we need the laughs.

re: #121 jamgarr

It's not too late.

BTW - Unwritten Lizard Rule #206:
You must have at leat 2000 posts before you can tell another poster that they "don't belong".

Then I shall work harder to make that 2000 mark. Thanks, I lost my copy of the unwritten rules during the last computer cleanup.

;)

she ought to also bring up his racist church again
every day until the election

use every democrats words from the primaries against him

re: #137 Irene NYC

I think most Americans boomer-age or older will have little difficulty understanding "The Weathermen" and what they stood for. And it won't be to 0bama's credit. They may even wonder why it took so long to hear about it.
;)

Thank You

Great Comment.

78,000,000 million of us.

and 2/3 of them are not idiots-
the last two 2 elections proved that.

re: #156 Random63

The pork in that bill had already passed in the house. They added this pig to it to get it passed.

re: #134 musicman

Upding for avatar *wink*.

re: #167 Born Again Republican

Did people see the Rasmussen poll that has Biden winning the debate 45% to Palin 37%! Don't you have to be accurate in your arguments to win a debate? Today's values are in the toilet!

Don't like that, Rasmussen is not a fraud.

re: #146 wrenchwench

Post count alone doesn't mean much. You have to go read the posts before drawing a conclusion with any meaning.

Then I shall try to make my posts readable and thought provoking. ;)

I'm not sure what the right "attack" plan would be.
He is such an empty suit.

re: #175 Adrenalyn

Bring up Wright until

"Naw naw naw, G-d D--m America"

is seared, seared into the public memory.

*spit*

Random63 says:

I'm not sure what "Moby" means, but I do know it's meant to be offensive. If you can't debate with someone that disagrees with you in an adult manner, then you do not belong on this site. Grownups debate and talk here in a civil manner. You want to call people offensive names, flame them, or curse them, then go to Kos. They will welcome that type of behavior there.

Now that's just comedy gold.

re: #156 Random63

Thanks, you spelled it right and your brother is a hero!

One other thing I forgot to tell you, Obama has what he calls "truth squads" in Missouri.
I have emailed/faxed/written everyone including the FEC, ACLU, FoxNews, newspapers etc.

The reason I am doing this is because he is using sheriff's and prosecutors in his "squad".
This promotes a restriction of free speech, because although they probably won't arrest you, their position of authority indicates that they CAN.

Your brother and my nephew are fighting/have fought for our freedom.
Obama is trying to take that away from us!

McCain is not the best candidate, but he is by far the BETTER candidate.
Please reconsider your vote.
Thank you.

re: #87 jpkoch

McCain, for only reasons he knows, decided to ignore Obama's ties to Ayers, the $168,000 he accepted from Fannie/Freddie, and the fact that both Johnson and Raines were at one time his campaign consultants.

What is strange is the silence from virtually the entire GOP establishment concerning the Dems and Fannie/Freddie. Not a peep out of the RNC or the House GOP caucus concerning Barney Frank and the House Dems involvement in protecting these 2 rotten institutions.

Strange.

I have been mystified by that also. Is it because McCain or some other R's are dirty too? Like, we better not open that can of worms -

re: #150 Typicalwhitey

I guess my point in telling the story is, that there are those of us who have a little more skin in the game and we do not want his sacrifice to be for nothing.

Thank you for telling your family's story. I can only speak for myself, but your nephew's service and sacrifice will always be revered. Please accept my heartfelt condolences.

re: #174 Random63

Then I shall work harder to make that 2000 mark. Thanks, I lost my copy of the unwritten rules during the last computer cleanup.

;)

Even then, you should think twice - it's Charles' blog.

I’m just afraid that the time to “take the gloves off” may have already passed.

May have. And let's face it, many people are pretty well focused on just keeping their jobs, at this point.

re: #151 Racer X

The election is still close. McCain is still in this thing. I do not understand why so many posters are whimpering "all is lost". What is he down? 4-5 points - depending on the pollster? That is nothing!

Watch the movie 300 again if find yourself wanting to crawl up into a ball cry.

I agree. Stop clinging to your mommy's skit and get out there and do something! Talk to friends family and who ever will listen to ya, I meet every morning with a group of locals here in NH many of them local polls and every time they get down like this I give them a kick in the pants and ask them why do you look as if your cup is half empty. Suck it up and get to work!

re: #169 Ice-9

I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. But the fact remains that we have bombed villages and killed civilians. That's not debatable.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

[Link: www.boston.com...]

But the civilian deaths did not occur because US soldiers are bloodthirsty monsters. It's because civilian deaths are the inevitable byproduct of too much reliance on air strikes rather than more troops, like your nephew, on the ground.

Perhaps it has happened.
But Obama said it as if we TRIED to make it happen and he said it as if that is ALL we have done.
Both are untrue.

I am no trial lawyer but I believe that one tactic used in criminal cases is for the defense to get the worst images and information in front of the jury out early in the case. The logic being that after hearing about something enough the jury becomes desensitized and the horror of the crime tends to diminish. People only have a short attention span and even in the case of Bill Clinton's escapades with Monica folks began to become bored with the details after hearing about it day after day.

My guess is that McCain is well aware of this phenomenon and has actually been waiting to turn up the heat on Obama and his connections until the last part of the campaign for this very reason. This information is not new to us but coming from Sarah Palin at this time it is really going to be front page news again and folks are going to be paying attention. Palin has captured the interest of this country and folks on both sides of the isle are watching her every move. It would be very old news by now it McCain had been pounding this drum all along.

Better late than never to tell the TRUTH about ZerObama and his band of
Domestic Terrorist-Racist-Embezzling-Voter Fraud associates and friends.

Power to the Correct People!
(They are not afraid of the TRUTH!)

she also ought to hold up a burka
as an example of what an Obama Presidency would bring to America

hell, bring out Willie Horton again - just don't let Obama win, no matter what the cost

bring his brother Odingo up too

his father

his racist grandma

all his criminal ties, you name it
everything is on the table

re: #187 Irene NYC

Thank you for telling your family's story. I can only speak for myself, but your nephew's service and sacrifice will always be revered. Please accept my heartfelt condolences.

Thanks Irene!
Besides, if I didn't fight Obama, my nephew would come back and kick my butt!
:)

re: #161 Slumbering Behemoth

Well said, oh slumbering one!

re: #169 Ice-9

But the civilian deaths did not occur because US soldiers are bloodthirsty monsters. It's because civilian deaths are the inevitable byproduct of too much reliance on air strikes rather than more troops, like your nephew, on the ground.

I find that very wrong headed. Are you implying we should take much larger casualties and eschew air support. You do know that we are careful way beyond precedent in the targeting and use of air power?

I don't think many grunts would want to serve in your outfit, I'm afraid. These are your friends, relatives and countrymen that are out there putting it all on the line.

But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'"

Ayers and his wife babysat Obama's kids! And Ayers recently said of his terrorist group "We didn't do enough!" Until Ayers denounces himself, his actions of the past still stand.

re: #150 Typicalwhitey

I assure you, regardless of any politcal insanity that might unfold next month, his sacrifice was meaningful. Iraq has reached a point where no President would give up the gains.

.....but I agree, of course, that McCain makes that point clearer.

As we learned with Bill Clinton and Clinton Fatigue, if you take the gloves off too soon, by the time the election comes around, no one will care. Now is the time to launch an all out attack. Bring up how the FBI won't investigate his criminal fund raising (More old boy wink-wink-nod-nod network). Hang every albatross he has around his neck.

The drum beat has to start now, and the facts have to be laid bare. Obama will have to answer this, his ego won't allow him to stay quiet. And eventually he'll say something so stupid, people will abandon him.

Why all the hostility. We could get a woman elected to office over the DEMOS and their mad as hell about it.

re: #155 Vinnie

You're all raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacists!

/do i need the tag?

//probably!

the "political lynching" comments during the Raines hearings would be a good way to diffuse that kind of crap.

The Ayers connection alone should sink Obama. Let alone Wright, Rezko, etc.

Obama mentioned during his interview last month with Bill O'Reilly that "I haven't seen the guy [Ayers] in a year and a half."

That would mean Obama met with, or "saw", Ayers just after he announced his candidacy.

O'Reilly didn't follow up on that one, but I still wonder about it.

political lynching

re: #169 Ice-9

I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. But the fact remains that we have bombed villages and killed civilians. That's not debatable.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

[Link: www.boston.com...]

But the civilian deaths did not occur because US soldiers are bloodthirsty monsters. It's because civilian deaths are the inevitable byproduct of too much reliance on air strikes rather than more troops, like your nephew, on the ground.

First, Obama's quote was "instead of JUST air raiding villages and killing civilians." He didn't make a reasonable statement about being more judicious in use of airstrikes -- he said we were using airstrikes as our only tactic.

Second, the terrain in the Afghan-Pakistani border doesn't lend itself to traditional ground warfare.

Third, the reports of civilian casualties are almost always vastly exaggerated because they are produced by people with a vested interest in denying involvement with the Taliban and al-Qaeda and in portraying the Coalition and Afghan forces as indiscriminate murderers.

re: #192 wintercat

I am no trial lawyer but I believe that one tactic used in criminal cases is for the defense to get the worst images and information in front of the jury out early in the case. The logic being that after hearing about something enough the jury becomes desensitized and the horror of the crime tends to diminish. People only have a short attention span and even in the case of Bill Clinton's escapades with Monica folks began to become bored with the details after hearing about it day after day.

My guess is that McCain is well aware of this phenomenon and has actually been waiting to turn up the heat on Obama and his connections until the last part of the campaign for this very reason. This information is not new to us but coming from Sarah Palin at this time it is really going to be front page news again and folks are going to be paying attention. Palin has captured the interest of this country and folks on both sides of the isle are watching her every move. It would be very old news by now it McCain had been pounding this drum all along.

Another great comment-
I feel like a school boy among the educated.

I started to say college professors- but too many liberals.

re: #199 Maui Girl

Ayers and his wife babysat Obama's kids! Are you serious?

Anyone have a link to this?

littleoldlady (#136),

The voters have ADHD. (Who remembers Reverend Wright?) I think this is just the right time to introduce the story of Ayers.

/and Rezko
//and ACORN
///and Alinsky & Marshall
////and Khalidi...

Hey littleoldlady. GMTA. That was going to be my comment, before the trolling ballerinas started me laughing.

re: #169 Ice-9

Don't let this one derail the thread with this bullshit folks. Don't take the bait.

re: #189 Cognito

May have. And let's face it, many people are pretty well focused on just keeping their jobs, at this point.

What good is your job, if you die at the hands of Ayers and Dohrn's ilk?

I prefer to support those who let me defend my LIFE.

re: #128 doriangrey

Random63

40 something Aerospace professional.

Registered since: Jan 7, 2007 at 1:34 pm
No. of comments posted: 229
No. of links posted: 0

I think that kind of say it all...

I think it does too.

Charles,
Your little excerpt is only half of the story. The original piece is this.

All - Please see below comments from Governor Sarah Palin regarding The New York Times article on domestic terrorist William Ayers from today's finance breakfast in Englewood, Colorado:

"There's been a lot of interest in what I read lately. Well, I was reading my copy of todays New York Times and I was really interested to read about Baracks friends from Chicago. Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol. These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes. This is not a man who sees America as you and I do - as the greatest force for good in the world. This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country. This, ladies and gentlemen, has nothing to do with the kind of change anyone can believe in - not my kids and not your kids. The only man who can take on Washington is John McCain."

Notice she cites the New York Times, the liberals bible as a source.

re: #199 Maui Girl

The NYT flat out lies, they do not give a damn, they are approaching this with all the ethics of the trial lawyers association. They inted to win.

I've said this before, but McCain/Palin signs are sprouting up like weeds all over our Florida county, including my own yard. I see McCain stickers on lots of cars, including one that said "another Democrat for McCain"! I'm still hopeful - this county went for Kerry last time around.

re: #202 the1sgjohns

Why all the hostility. We could get a woman elected to office over the DEMOS and their mad as hell about it.

Ya maybe next election but we have the card on the table right now so we have to play our hand.

re: #179 Sol Roth

Thanks! I needed that. I am currently stuck in a recliner (had knee surgery Thursday) with nothing but what's on the boob tube and my computer in my lap. All I have right now is the great discussions on LGF.

Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, "Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." She also said, "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

Bingo, on the money and the right message.

re: #208 Nightlight

Ayers and his wife babysat Obama's kids! Are you serious?

Anyone have a link to this?

ayers obama ad out

re: #44 Typicalwhitey

Rather than being too late....don't you think the timing is perfect?
They can hammer this until the election, if they had started too early it would be "old news" by Nov 4th, don't you think?

You've got it. The timing is right. Right now and every day until the election.

re: #156 Random63

Given that Governor Palin isn't running for President this election, and given that serving as Vice President will make it far more likely that she will be elected President in a future election, not voting for McCain in this election is a disservice to Governor Palin.

Hey ploome.

re: #156 Random63

He voted against overwhelming wishes of the American people who saw this bill as nothing but a money and power grab marching us closer to socialism. He voted with his Washington crowd that he always so proudly claims he detests. Actions speak louder than words, and McCain spoke very loud about his true feelings and loyalty when he cast this vote for socialism and Washington and told the American people to suck it up and send another trillion out of their wallets.

What he did was wrong and it cost him the election that day.

Without McCain, the bill would have been worse - it would have included $600M for ACORN!

While I, personally, would have been willing to risk a banking system seizure to stop that bill, a man (or woman) running for president could not.

I am thankful that he was able to improve that bill.

If Mac the Knife loses, it will not be because of that vote.

re: #191 Typicalwhitey

Perhaps it has happened.
But Obama said it as if we TRIED to make it happen and he said it as if that is ALL we have done.
Both are untrue.

You mean this quote?:

"We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there."

Seems to me that he was just saying that we can't just rely on air strikes, which result in collateral deaths of civilians, but need more troops on the ground.

re: #209 Geepers

Geepers! :-)

Trolling ballerinas! ROTFL!

/thanks for that! ;-)

How's by you?

Regarding AF and bombing. If you are taking fire from a compound, you tell them to give up or be bombed. The fact they care more about dying for Allah then their children appears not to affect them. For my part, they lie to gain support much like the Pallys in Lebanon and Gaza, staging bodies and cars for the camera. It is a favorite tactic. I am saying accidents happen but I never met a soldier in AF that got up one morning and said "today I will bomb innocents for fun and maybe a little profit for US". NO NEVER SAW OR HEARD THAT.

re: #159 Ojoe

Thanks for grabbing the link, Ojoe.

re: #198 The Shadow Do

I find that very wrong headed. Are you implying we should take much larger casualties and eschew air support. You do know that we are careful way beyond precedent in the targeting and use of air power?

I don't think many grunts would want to serve in your outfit, I'm afraid. These are your friends, relatives and countrymen that are out there putting it all on the line.

Are you saying an Iraq-style surge would not work in Afghanistan?

re: #219 spidly

ayers obama ad out

Damn-

you deserve many dings on this.

GOT TERRORIST?

VOTE BAMBI

I agree with Charles "I’m just afraid that the time to “take the gloves off” may have already passed." The time to take the gloves off was when she had 169 MILLION VIEWERS !

Nevertheless, it's about damn time. Oh, and everyone be sure to watch Hannity's hr-long slam of Obama tomorrow night ! From the promo, it sounds like he'll be covering all the connections we've been talking about for months.

re: #220 SurferDoc

You've got it. The timing is right. Right now and every day until the election.

I agree also: the peeple have itty bitty little... attention spans. I'm afraid that they might forget by November!

Another thing.

Sarah said "in my world, palling around with a terrorist would make one unfit to become commander in chief"

See, she understands that most people feel the same!

Time for McCain to fight. Don't let the Ayers story become limited to only being a "radical from the 1960s". The SOB posed himself in a photograph standing on an American flag in 2001 ([Link: newsbusters.org...] BHO has a history of association with Ayers from which they both benefited & also served to help promote such groups as ACORN & Rev. Wrights' church through funding. Not a causal association.

Too true for prime time:

Show the collapsing Trade Center towers.
Show Palestinians rejoicing in the streets.
Show/quote ample pro-Palestinian teachings of Obama's church.....especially about "Jesus the Palestinian" being oppressed by Europeans and Jews.
Remind people: 20+ years belonging to that church.
Show the phone banks in Gaza supporting Obama.

"... he's palling around with terrorists..."
Priceless! Tell it like it is, sister! Who'd have thought the biggest set of stones on the ticket would belong to a woman?

re: #225 littleoldlady

Geepers! :-)

Trolling ballerinas! ROTFL!

/thanks for that! ;-)

How's by you?

LO

re: #219 spidly

ayers obama ad out

That ad has been out over a month. More need to see it.

Maybe Sarah will tell people what they are too ignorant to find out for themselves.

Rules for Radicals opens with a quote about Lucifer, written by Saul Alinsky:

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.

Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people.
The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.”

Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. When Alinsky leaked word that large numbers of poor people were going to tie up the washrooms of O’Hare Airport, Chicago city authorities quickly agreed to act on a longstanding commitment to a ghetto organization. They imagined the mayhem as thousands of passengers poured off airplanes to discover every washroom occupied. Then they imagined the international embarrassment and the damage to the city’s reputation.

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

SARAH, THROW IT BACK IN HIS FACE!

Cognito (#189),

May have. And let's face it, many people are pretty well focused on just keeping their jobs, at this point.

Ofergodsakes.

re: #160 jamgarr

You don't find out until you have 1500 posts. The secret Zionista checks don't start going out until 5000 posts.

Hmmmmmm.....Interesting.... So, this is a quantity only issue? No bearing of quality? And all this time I've tried to amuse people......

(I'm thinking I may go on a very iritating barage to get the super secret lizard info)

re: #159 Ojoe

Weather Underground Greenwich Village townhouse demolition in a "work accident".

Bombing a dance - how considerate of all the children that would have been left orphans.

re: #215 tripletdad

In Palm Beach county I do see a lot more McCain material then Obama, and I saw a "Democrat for McCain" sticker also. The Palm Beach Pravda had a "Florida is becoming more democratic" article.

re: #161 Slumbering Behemoth

This ain't just another election, this is "one for the history books". Seriously, I think we are facing an opposition party that may well try to re-write has long been re-writing the history books in an Orwellian way.

Fixed for ya.

If discussing Ayers with a skeptic, always point out that Ayers is still a self-described Marxist, he believes in revolution through education, and he was down in Venezuela two years ago praising Hugo Chavez... caught on video.

Ayers' move to academia is not a redemption; it is a continuation of his life-long hatred of America. Obama facilitated this with his work on the Annenberg Challenge. This is not "guilty by association", it is fellow travellers supporting each other.

If they doubt Obama is hard left, bring up his church -- the church he only left to save his candidacy. BLT is both Marxist and racist, and he stayed there for twenty years... and brought his children too.

Bring up his work with ACORN as a trainer; bring up his court cases as a lawyer forcing banks to give mortgages to the unqualified.

There is plenty of evidence that he is not who he pretends to be, and all of the points support each other. He will loot America.

re: #223 DeafDog

So McCain nixed ACORN in the bailout? Do you have a link?

re: #137 Irene NYC

I think most Americans boomer-age or older will have little difficulty understanding "The Weathermen" and what they stood for. And it won't be to 0bama's credit. They may even wonder why it took so long to hear about it.
;)

You've got that 60% right:
I have no trouble understanding the importance of "The Weathermen" in a negative way, as I had no trouble understanding John Kerry's impact resulting from his (false) testimony as a VVAW member.

A neighbor (roughly my age) was one of those who were on the side of "The Weathermen" and thought Kerry did the right thing 4 years ago.

That rusty sword cuts both ways, unfortunately. It will depend on who outnumbers whom for us boomers. I think the ratio is about 60-40, which is why my first line reads the way it reads.

Alrite, Taqyia2Me, Random63, and others -- I gotta say something, again, in defense of this pork-laden bailout or whatever we call it. It is a chemotherapy treatment for the bad bad sickness that we got ourselves into with CRA, Fannie May, Freddie Mac, Acorns, Greenlining institutes etc. The treatment is going to make us sicker than the disease for a while, and the disease itself will probably progress a bit anyway, but we'll have a chance of making it through. The bailout is not for Wall Street, nor for the state/city politicians -- it is for your jobs (which will still probably be lost during the coming few years), for the local supermarket to have food on the shelves, for your bank to have cash in the ATMs, and for your town to have money for police and firemen. I'd rather take that chemo with all the pork than have none at all.

re: #224 Ice-9

You mean this quote?:

"We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there."

Seems to me that he was just saying that we can't just rely on air strikes, which result in collateral deaths of civilians, but need more troops on the ground.

So you think we were JUST air raiding villages and killing civilians?
THAT is what he SAID.

re: #240 DeafDog

Hmmmmmm.....Interesting.... So, this is a quantity only issue? No bearing of quality? And all this time I've tried to amuse people......

(I'm thinking I may go on a very iritating barage to get the super secret lizard info)

It's a joke. Lighten up, Francis!

In uber-liberal Austin, which was lousy with Kerry/Edwards bumperstickers and signs in 2004---you get a few stickers and a yard sign or two for Obamajebus. You'd hardly know there was an election.

re: #241 DistantThunder

Bombing a dance - how considerate of all the children that would have been left orphans.

Oh you foolish right wing nutjob. "The ends justify the means"

Whatever happened to the PMI that people pay every month when they put down less than 20% on a house?

[Link: www.frbsf.org...]

What Is PMI?
PMI is extra insurance that lenders require from most homebuyers who obtain loans that are more than 80 percent of their new home's value. In other words, buyers with less than a 20 percent down payment are normally required to pay PMI.
Benefits of PMI
PMI plays an important role in the mortgage industry by protecting a lender against loss if a borrower defaults on a loan and by enabling borrowers with less cash to have greater access to homeownership. With this type of insurance, it is possible for you to buy a home with as little as a 3 percent to 5 percent down payment. This means that you can buy a home sooner without waiting years to accumulate a large down payment.

I tell you something is rotten in Washington.

re: #235 curt9988

"... he's palling around with terrorists..."
Priceless! Tell it like it is, sister! Who'd have thought the biggest set of stones on the ticket would belong to a woman?

When's the last time any insider politician has use the term.."palling around?"

Fresh air, indeed.

re: #237 Racer X

That ad has been out over a month. More need to see it.

another - obama wright rezko ayers ad out yesterday

The best part about Sarah making public statements on the Ayers connections is it will force the Obama campaign to address them one way or the other. I don't think a blanket denial is going to work now.

Message to Sleeper Trolls and Mobys...

You are coming out in more numbers now. You are laughable and your tactics won't work, but go ahead and waste your time.

re: #228 Ice-9

Are you saying an Iraq-style surge would not work in Afghanistan?

Are you aware that Iraq and Afghanistan are vastly different places?

For a surge to work in Afghanistan, it must be (as Sarah Palin made plain in the debate) very different in style from the surge in Iraq. The emphasis on establishing good relations with tribal leaders will be similar; the weapons and tactics will have to be adapted to the different terrain and the different nature of the enemy and the local population.

And that means that substituting infantrymen for artillery and airstrikes is not a panacea.

re: #228 Ice-9

Are you saying an Iraq-style surge would not work in Afghanistan?

Are you informed as to what "the surge" actually means? This is COIN. This is not pitched infantry fighting that wins with superior numbers.

So no, a massive influx of troops is of little use in Afghanistan. It is about training up and supporting indigenous forces and holding ground that way village by village.

But I suspect that you do know all this, but are here to simply stir the pot.