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Palin Dissenter Backpedals

Opinion | Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:03:08 pm PDT

Following Sarah Palin’s debate performance, Kathleen Parker has crow for dinner: Bridge to Somewhere.

What did they do with the other Sarah Palin?

I mean the one who bases foreign-policy experience on the proximity of Russia to Alaska and who speaks cutely about Vladimir Putin poking his little head into American airspace. Where did they put her?

The Palin who performed so miserably in one-on-one media interviews was nowhere to be seen during Thursday night’s debate with Joe Biden. Instead, the affable, tough, determined pit-bull-hockey mom presented to the GOP convention was back with a jaw-jutting, happy-warrior vengeance.

So, yes, I am relieved. I had been concerned that she would stumble badly and humiliate herself. No fair-minded person wanted that. In fact, she managed to control the debate in many respects by bridging from the question asked to the talking point she wanted to hammer.

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1 doriangrey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:04:25pm

Hmmm, sounds like a whole lot of sputtering to me....

2 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:04:56pm

Fresh meat. I want to see obamessiah eatin' Crow.

3 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:05:26pm

Oh ye of little faith.

4 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:06:03pm

This, of course, will not be reported as widely as her original dissent.

5 gman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:06:22pm

Beauty, brains, and self- confidence-
It's enough to drive any self- loathing anti-American crazy!

6 debutaunt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:07:11pm

Sarah was wonderful and the blowhard was blowhardier than usual.

7 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:07:50pm
She was often too cute by half — winking and gosh-darning her way through the debate — but she did what she needed to do. Among other things, she declared a populist war of Us vs. Them — everyday, honest, hardworking Americans against Wall Street, greed, corrupt politicians, liberals, and, of course, the media.

How could someone like Parker not see that the media's portrayal and betrayal of Palin cast her in an unfavorable light? During the debate everyone was privvy to all of Palin's comments, not just those cherry-picked by one news source.

8 USA  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:07:52pm

re: #1 doriangrey

Hmmm, sounds like a whole lot of sputtering to me....


There are plenty here that have been sputtering too. "Too weak, too late ...."
Screw them all. Win!

9 Egfrow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:07:56pm
What did they do with the other Sarah Palin?

Oh you mean the one who ended your Conservative Credentials.

10 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:07:59pm

re: #2 Cap'n DOC

Fresh meat. I want to see obamessiah eatin' Crow.

Come January 21, I want to see Obamessiah eating in the Senate dining room.

11 cliffster  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:08:30pm

Welcome back, Kathleen. I'd say something about fair weather friends, but this is no time for that.

12 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:09:04pm

Kathleen Parker, I''ll have my crow medium rare.

13 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:09:20pm
...ask the iPodder blogging on her Apple about Sarah Palin, you’re gonna hear some fear in that person’s voice, also.

What? Afraid? Of what, you twit?! Somebody gonna ask her (the iPodder, of course), to suck up some responsibility perhaps instead of the Double Mocha DeCaf Grande?

14 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:09:27pm

re: #10 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Come January 21, I want to see Obamessiah eating in the Senate dining room.

Yeah. I mean, have you lizards thought about this? What will he do if he loses?

/(Other than try to keep Michelle from screaming obscenities at the American people, of course.)

15 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:09:27pm

Uh, Ms. Parker, would you care for some condiments?

16 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:09:33pm

Funny that, how much better Gov. Palin comes off in a live debate verses a creatively edited interview with an MSM stooge.

17 Egfrow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:12pm

re: #11 cliffster

Welcome back, Kathleen. I'd say something about fair weather friends, but this is no time for that.

Conservatives don't need wafflers, traitors, or doubters. Conservatives have no fear and face B.S. with confidence. She has plenty of sympathy from the rest of the cowards in the MSM.

18 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:14pm

Tasty, fresh Humble Pie, straight out of Aunt Mae's oven...

19 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:17pm

re: #15 realwest

Uh, Ms. Parker, would you care for some condiments?

RW...how are you tonight?

20 gman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:32pm

re: #8 USA

There are plenty here that have been sputtering too. "Too weak, too late ...."
Screw them all. Win!

I'm with you. It isn't over till it's over.

Let's quit whining and get to work.

21 musicman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:39pm

I've heard it takes a lot of ketchup to eat crow.

22 smapdhi  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:42pm

yeah, a lot of the MSM saying they did not want to see sarah palin crash and burn are the same types that cover hurricanes like rabid dogs in the hopes that nothing bad will happen (ok, they wanna see carnage, but lets not look at their intentions)

23 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:10:54pm

Come November 5th I don't want to see anymore of the "O"... ever... barring possibly his prosecution under the Logan act or something...

24 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:11:52pm

re: #14 arethusa

Yeah. I mean, have you lizards thought about this? What will he do if he loses?


Stolen election, President-select, Commander-in-Thief ... nothing original, of course. Unless he forms a shadow government and initiates diplomacy with Iran & Hamas.

25 stevieray  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:11:55pm
The Palin who performed so miserably in one-on-one media interviews was nowhere to be seen...

You mean the two hour interviews that were edited down to a few minutes, by people who despise Sarah, weren't an accurate portrayal?!

/shocka!

Sheesh! How did you get a national column and remain so naive?

26 USA  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:12:26pm

McCain/Palin picks up two BIG endorsements

27 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:12:48pm

Did she get Obama and Biden on the Bridge to Nowhere yet?

28 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:12:56pm

re: #21 musicman

I've heard it takes a lot of ketchup to eat crow.

Heinz?

29 WinterCat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:13:01pm

She did better than most people figured she would. And let me say thanks to the ObamaMedia for drawing so much negative attention to her. You really piqued the nation's curiosity so 70 million people were drawn to that debate and watched her dress Biden down several times. After only 5 weeks compared to his 36 years! Imagine what an a** kicking the dems will have gotten by the time election day rolls around if she keeps this up. America is in awe. You have their attention Sarah. Run with that ball.

30 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:14:13pm

Why is FOX running "W" movie trailers?

31 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:15:00pm

re: #26 USA

McCain/Palin picks up two BIG endorsements

Clever tag on that URL!

32 musicman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:15:19pm

re: #28 gettinby

Heinz?

Are you kidding me? I can't even begin to choke that crap down! I'm a Hunt's man myself.

33 Vinnie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:15:21pm

Hey, Kathleen, guess you should read your fellow NRO contributor Mark Steyn as you wolf down that oh so delicious meal of hearty crow.

34 Egfrow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:15:38pm

re: #30 jorline

Why is FOX running "W" movie trailers?

Because Fox is not idealistic. Fair and balanced makes cash.

35 musicman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:17:21pm

re: #26 USA

McCain/Palin picks up two BIG endorsements

This comment made me laugh,

I knew there was a third reason to like Dolly.

36 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:17:41pm

One the on hand Palin won't convert the blindly Demoncrack* but she will energize the Rep base to get out and vote, she may even be the Reagan revolution for the next generation.

*was trying to discuss the debate with a rabid ovomitiod the other night and you'd think we watched different debates with different people...
"She didn't answer any questions at all, not one!"
"Biden was great!"
"What! Biden never lied prove it right now!"
And from their it went downhill to the point of invoking the don't argue with an idiot rule...

37 spidly  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:18:20pm

because of BO I am the next lawyer

38 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:18:32pm

re: #34 Egfrow

Because Fox is not idealistic. Fair and balanced makes cash.

Can't wait for the next "Fair & Balanced" Michael Moore trailer then...cash in the bank.

/

39 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:18:42pm

Btw, the 6,000,000th posting, has that milestone been reached yet?

40 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:19:00pm

re: #39 Archimedes

Btw, the 6,000,000th posting, has that milestone been reached yet?

Not it.

41 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:19:33pm

Yeah- many had no faith in her. They need to ask themselves why and be honest with themselves. Blaming her performance with Couric & Gibson is a cop out. I think there are a number of so-called conservatives who need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask themselves- just what is conservatism? Because if this party is ever going to become dominate, "mainstream" if you will, we need to leave behind the notion of blue-blood, country club elitism and realize that working class folks, and middle income Americans make just as good a conservative as the cliched rich folks. To me- that's really where a lot of Palin's friendly fire has been originating, and it not only makes me sad, but angry too.

42 CanadianBacon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:19:47pm

Nice to see that she can hold her own against a real, experienced politician. You know, the type that seems to hold out his total lack of accomplishment during all his years of elected service (look, no indictments) as his prime qualification for higher office.

Given a fair interviewer, she'd probably have never have been exposed to the harassment and ridicule she's endured since her announcement.

Of course, given neutrality in the media, we'd be hearing more about Obama's odious public history and less about Palin's private life.

43 FloridaAnole  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:19:48pm

re: #7 solomonpanting

How could someone like Parker not see that the media's portrayal and betrayal of Palin cast her in an unfavorable light? During the debate everyone was privvy to all of Palin's comments, not just those cherry-picked by one news source.

Parker is the WAPO's house "conservative". I suspect her attitude was acquired from her Beltway friends.

44 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:20:00pm

re: #39 Archimedes

Btw, the 6,000,000th posting, has that milestone been reached yet?

20, 647 away!

45 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:20:15pm

re: #32 musicman

Are you kidding me? I can't even begin to choke that crap down! I'm a Hunt's man myself.

Yeah...me, too.

/just threw out the other person (TaRayZa) who had to eat some crow. ;)
//and she already had her own condiment!

46 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:20:24pm

crow casserole w/lots of vegetables is the easiest way to choke it down.

47 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:20:38pm

re: #32 musicman

Are you kidding me? I can't even begin to choke that crap down! I'm a Hunt's man myself.

If I had no class, I would make a comment about Heinz going down faster. But I've got a ton of class, so I won't.

48 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:21:08pm

re: #26 USA

Prolly shoulda used a couple of LARGE E's for Endorsement...

49 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:21:27pm

i knew she'd do well.
and i never cared for fair weather friends.

50 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:21:38pm

re: #47 DeafDog

If I had no class, I would make a comment about Heinz going down faster. But I've got a ton of class, so I won't.

That's why John Francois picked her!

51 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:21:43pm

re: #19 jorline
Hey jorline I'm doing ok I reckon, how are you doing?
When do you see that RA again? How are you feeling my friend?

52 musicman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:22:00pm

re: #47 DeafDog

If I had no class, I would make a comment about Heinz going down faster. But I've got a ton of class, so I won't.

And for that we are all truly grateful! :)

53 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:22:49pm

re: #7 solomonpanting

How could someone like Parker not see that the media's portrayal and betrayal of Palin cast her in an unfavorable light? During the debate everyone was privvy to all of Palin's comments, not just those cherry-picked by one news source.

Because the liberals don't have a lock on elitism.

54 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:23:17pm

re: #25 stevieray
Hey stevieray - not naive - evil maybe, or at least bad intentions, but definitely not naive.

55 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:24:12pm

re: #32 musicman

Are you kidding me? I can't even begin to choke that crap down! I'm a Hunt's man myself.

Personally, I don't like catsup at all. I prefer to use this instead.

It's great on scrambled eggs.

56 irongrampa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:24:18pm

I predict that now the bailout vote is over, you're gonna see Saracuda with a vengeance. Obama will get hit hard from a dozen sides, in such a way the MSM CAN'T ignore or gloss over. Both McCain and Palin will nail him simultaneously--watch and see.

57 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:24:24pm

re: #35 musicman

This comment made me laugh,

I knew there was a third reason to like Dolly.

dolly is really smart and a great business woman.
i'm so happy to hear this.

58 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:24:34pm

re: #28 gettinby
ROTFLMAO! I really wonder if John effin' Kerry wishes he'd waited to run until this year?

59 FloridaAnole  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:24:43pm

What I don't understand is that so many of the people who turned against Sarah on the basis of the Gibson and Couric interviews were certainly sophisticated and knowlegable enough to know about videotape editing and the "wonders" that can be done.

Krauthammer is another matter. He took against her right from the first. BTW, he is now claiming that Bambi has "a first class mind?

60 spidly  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:25:01pm

re: #30 jorline

Why is FOX running "W" movie trailers?

they paid them?

61 Catttt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:25:34pm

Doubting Thomas moment.

62 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:25:44pm

re: #53 Sharmuta

Because the liberals don't have a lock on elitism.

so true.
(krauthammer, for example)

63 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:25:59pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Yeah- many had no faith in her. They need to ask themselves why and be honest with themselves. Blaming her performance with Couric & Gibson is a cop out. I think there are a number of so-called conservatives who need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask themselves- just what is conservatism? Because if this party is ever going to become dominate, "mainstream" if you will, we need to leave behind the notion of blue-blood, country club elitism and realize that working class folks, and middle income Americans make just as good a conservative as the cliched rich folks. To me- that's really where a lot of Palin's friendly fire has been originating, and it not only makes me sad, but angry too.

Agree Sharm...what we don't need at this time is fair weather McCain/Palin supporters.

Clintonsque...lick your finger and see which way the winds blowing today.

64 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:26:03pm

Palin made the comments about Ayers earlier today in both Colorado and at a rally in California. Is California in play?

*is confused*

65 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:26:41pm

re: #60 spidly

they paid them?

It's a win/win for Fox:
Fox gets paid.
Large chunk of audience gets pissed off about Stone's lies etc...

66 musicman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:26:43pm

re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth

Personally, I don't like catsup at all. I prefer to use this instead.

It's great on scrambled eggs.

Oh my gosh! If I ever ate some of that my stomach would go on total shutdown. Peppers and cucumbers do not like me!

67 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:26:44pm

re: #57 nyc redneck

dolly is really smart and a great business woman.
i'm so happy to hear this.

I linked this story this morning in the spinoffs because I thought it was kind of nice, but I was surprised at the level of interest in the story- it got a lot of clicks and dings. America still loves Dolly!

68 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:27:48pm

re: #48 Cap'n DOC
"Prolly shoulda used a couple of LARGE E's for Endorsement..."

Uh, y'all figure that would've covered them it?!

69 spidly  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:27:58pm

re: #64 arethusa

Palin made the comments about Ayers earlier today in both Colorado and at a rally in California. Is California in play?

*is confused*

not unless internals are way different from the national polls. fundraising maybe?

70 right_on_target  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:28:06pm

re: #7 solomonpanting

How could someone like Parker not see that the media's portrayal and betrayal of Palin cast her in an unfavorable light? During the debate everyone was privvy to all of Palin's comments, not just those cherry-picked by one news source.

_____________________________
Yes, and the media turned those cherries into cherry-bombs that damaged her image.

71 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:28:17pm

re: #59 FloridaAnole


Krauthammer is another matter. He took against her right from the first. BTW, he is now claiming that Bambi has "a first class mind?

First-class minds do not always make first-class Presidents. Witness: Bill Clinton, Woodrow Wilson.

72 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:28:28pm

re: #58 realwest

ROTFLMAO! I really wonder if John effin' Kerry wishes he'd waited to run until this year?

Sarah would have REALLY had fun with him!

/don't mess with a Military mom! LOL

73 rick42_98@yahoo.com  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:28:33pm

Hey....I, for one, can respect Kathleen Parker when she recants her previous opinions, in light of Palin's performance to now state that she was effective (which she, undeniably was). Kathleen, welcome to the right-thinking club!

74 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:28:41pm

re: #64 arethusa

Palin made the comments about Ayers earlier today in both Colorado and at a rally in California. Is California in play?

*is confused*

Yes. Obamassieh and Shrillary split the state during the primary before a lot of the O-Negatives started showing up online and before Shrillary took of the gloves etc...
imo this could be the biggest landslide in decades...

75 musicman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:28:43pm

re: #68 realwest

"Prolly shoulda used a couple of LARGE E's for Endorsement..."

Uh, y'all figure that would've covered them it?!

*GROAN*

76 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:29:05pm

re: #51 realwest

Hey jorline I'm doing ok I reckon, how are you doing?
When do you see that RA again? How are you feeling my friend?

I'm well, RW...thanks. I don't see the RA until mid November, but I see the Internist next Wednesday. I've been at the baseball park all day, my son had a double hitter today...makes for a loooooooong day.

How are you feeling?

77 stevieray  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:30:26pm

re: #54 realwest

Hey stevieray - not naive - evil maybe, or at least bad intentions, but definitely not naive.

Hey Real!

I might not have been clear... I was aiming the "naive" charge at Kathleen Parker, not the MSM who did the interviews. Parker seems to view the MSM as reliable... a naive quality if there ever was one.

78 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:30:54pm

I actually sent Ms. Parker a respectful e-mail prior to the debate with references to Truman, Reagan and Lady Thatcher. Hope she got the message.
I do wish she were encouraged to eat a mooseburger, however.

-S-

79 spidly  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:30:57pm

McCain Plans Fiercer Strategy Against Obama

"We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here," said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity
80 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:30:59pm

re: #26 USA

I'm a little tired today I kept looking for the other name.

/duh

81 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:31:00pm

re: #75 musicman
Hey, listen I'm doing what I can here, I mean my hands are just FULL!
;')

82 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:31:21pm

re: #68 realwest

"Prolly shoulda used a couple of LARGE E's for Endorsement..."

Uh, y'all figure that would've covered them it?!

Onle if "a couple of LARGE E's" stands for "end-to-end".

83 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:31:39pm

re: #67 Sharmuta

I linked this story this morning in the spinoffs because I thought it was kind of nice, but I was surprised at the level of interest in the story- it got a lot of clicks and dings. America still loves Dolly!

and dolly still loves america.

84 eon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:32:13pm

re: #14 arethusa

Yeah. I mean, have you lizards thought about this? What will he do if he loses?

/(Other than try to keep Michelle from screaming obscenities at the American people, of course.)

Personally, if that happens, I intend to VCR her meltdown for posterity.

/it should go into the history files right alongside the Dean Scream.

cheers

eon

85 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:32:18pm

re: #76 jorline
Whoa, mid- November? I thought it was mid-October!
As I said, I'm doing ok I guess, sure hope your pain has eased off some.

86 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:32:59pm

re: #77 stevieray
Ah, sorry - misunderstood your comment!

87 musicman  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:33:03pm

re: #81 realwest

Hey, listen I'm doing what I can here, I mean my hands are just FULL!
;')

It does seem sometimes we have a lot to.........!

88 Nancy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:33:16pm

I won't be too hard on Parker. She had the courage to come forward and say that she had underestimated her. She certainly wasn't the only one, I think many (supporters) were nervous about the debate.

In fact, I was smiling........Sarah Palin does well speaking to an audience. Katy Couric and others had better watch out. If McCain-Palin lose --with the appeal Governor Palin has to an audience --she might be offered THEIR job! ha ha.

89 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:34:57pm

re: #78 Dr. Shalit
tee hee , Now please forward the e-mail to Krauthammer .

90 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:35:02pm

re: #72 gettinby
Hey there {gettinby} especially a military mom who can shoot, kill and dress her own moose(s) - meese's?!

91 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:35:03pm

Great movie on right now..."15 Minutes"

92 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:35:18pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Speaking as a middle-of-the-roader, I think main-stream conservativism is out at this point. Has been since they nominated McCain. Face it. McCain's not a conservative in the traditional mold. There are a couple things that matter here, as far as conservatism is concerned. Putting support behind McCain means they can't push a more conservative agenda in 2012. But to let McCain fail in 2008 means we suffer the devastation of an Obama presidency for a minimum of four years. The pendulum swings. It should swing, as far as I'm concerned, but even I've become concerned that the general direction has gotten too far leftward.

So, do they sit out in protest of a MOR presidential candidate, or do they stay home, let America lurch dangerously toward socialism so they can pick up the pieces, as did Reagan in 1980?

I'd say the stakes are far too high, and conservatives love their country far too much to let that happen.

93 Catttt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:35:34pm

Time for a PJ O'Rourke quotation:

The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.

94 Nancy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:36:09pm

re: #64 arethusa

No, I read that she was in California to appear at a fundraiser.

95 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:36:36pm

re: #91 jorline

Great movie on right now..."15 Minutes"

How long does it go?

96 eon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:36:38pm

re: #24 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Stolen election, President-select, Commander-in-Thief ... nothing original, of course. Unless he forms a shadow government and initiates diplomacy with Iran & Hamas.

Compared to what he's done up to now?

There's not much left on the list, except maybe declaring himself Comandante Uno of the World Liberation Army and looking for some hills to take to, like Fidel in the Oriente.

/which could be a problem around Chicago, as it's pretty darned flat up there.

cheers

eon

97 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:37:22pm

re: #85 realwest

Whoa, mid- November? I thought it was mid-October!
As I said, I'm doing ok I guess, sure hope your pain has eased off some.

That's why I asked you a second time...the I guess didn't convince me the first time my friend. I wish good health as always, RW.

98 stevieray  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:37:27pm

re: #86 realwest

Ah, sorry - misunderstood your comment!

We be cool.

99 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:37:57pm

re: #5 gman

Beauty, brains, and self- confidence-
It's enough to drive any self- loathing anti-American crazy!

And she doesn't wear a bag - she's "uncovered meat" to an America-hating Muslim.

100 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:38:18pm

re: #95 victor_yugo

How long does it go?

Eight X the title...lol

101 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:38:20pm

re: #94 Nancy

No, I read that she was in California to appear at a fundraiser.

777 on the previous thread just got back from the event where she said it in CA, and says it was a rally.

102 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:38:28pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin'
Amen, Noam, Amen. I don't know that we'd still be America after 4 years of Obama.
Like him or not, McCain's all that stands in the way of Obama's socialism and interventionism abroad - against a well known nuclear power, no less!

103 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:39:08pm

re: #97 jorline
Thank you my friend and I'll pray for yours!

104 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:39:33pm

re: #93 Catttt

i Had this fantasy, if ObamA won for all republicans to go on strike...silly, but it was nice for a minute or two.

nah nah nahing the consequences.

105 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:39:51pm

Parker asks:

Does that mean she’s ready to lead the free world should circumstances warrant?


Ojoe says yes. Because Palin understands the responsibility that comes with freedom. She carried Trig to term. 0bama does not understand the responsibility that comes from freedom, he says his daughters should not be "punished with a baby".

0 = disaster

Palin = getting back to the things that work, and make this country great.

106 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:40:01pm

Don't know if this has been posted yet or not - sorry if it has:

Biden cancels campaign events for today and tomorrow due to illness in the family

Jill's mother is very seriously ill, and the hospice has advised them to stay close by.

107 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:40:15pm

re: #98 stevieray
We certainly are, and at least one of us is hip, too!

108 CapeCoddah  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:40:21pm

re: #102 realwest

Amen, Noam, Amen. I don't know that we'd still be America after 4 years of Obama.
Like him or not, McCain's all that stands in the way of Obama's socialism and interventionism abroad - against a well known nuclear power, no less!

If Obama is elected, it will be like living through a four year hurricane, the country will be battered to it's foundation.

109 Egfrow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:40:27pm

re: #26 USA

McCain/Palin picks up two BIG endorsements

Yeah, I'm not so hot on Dolly Parton's comment on AK-47s. That's not a weapon Americans usually consider owning.

110 West Coast Freedom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:40:31pm

"Does that mean she’s ready to lead the free world should circumstances warrant?"

With a resounding boomer voice, Hell Ya! When are people going to drop this notion of McCain dropping dead? Give it a rest would 'ya.

BTW: It's my 23rd anniversary today! I sneak a post here every now and then, but looks like I'm off line in a few minutes :)

/wink

111 FloridaAnole  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:40:35pm

re: #101 arethusa

777 on the previous thread just got back from the event where she said it in CA, and says it was a rally.

I read in the paper a few days ago that she was scheduled to go to a fund raiser given by the Hollywood conservatives - all 11 of them.

112 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:40:38pm

re: #100 jorline

Eight X the title...lol

Eight X? XXXXXXXX?

Is that so pornographic it can't be viewed by anyone?

/on par with South Park

113 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:41:05pm

re: #106 Intrepid

Sorry to hear that, we'll hope for a speedy recovery.

114 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:41:20pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin'

I think where McCain fails as a conservative, Sarah picks up the slack, and that's why it's she that's getting the scorn, and not McCain. The so-called conservative beltway people are fine with McCain because he's country club even if he's less conservative. They're less comfortable with Sarah because while she's a conservative, she's middle class. Elitism isn't just a phenomenon of the left.

115 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:41:57pm

re: #104 willowone

i Had this fantasy, if ObamA won for all republicans to go on strike...silly, but it was nice for a minute or two.

nah nah nahing the consequences.

That is the premise of Atlas Shrugged.

116 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:42:16pm

re: #113 willowone

Sorry to hear that, we'll hope for a speedy recovery.

If Jill's mother is in the care of a hospice, then it doesn't look good. Hospice care is usually for end of life issues.

Prayers indeed going out for Jill Biden's mother and their whole family.

117 Nancy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:42:20pm

re: #101 arethusa

Oh, must have been. I can't recall which press reported saying she was in California to attend a fundraiser. It would make sense to have a rally as long as she was going to be there though!

118 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:42:27pm

re: #105 Ojoe
Hello Ojoe - Obama doesn't know how to spell responsibility, much less the meaning of the word.
Never saw a less qualified candidate running for POTUS and if Barney Frank, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi didn't convince folks that the Democrats are no longer a truly functioning political party, Obama sure as hell should.

119 Drained Brain  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:42:38pm

re: #26 USA

McCain/Palin picks up two BIG endorsements

Thanks for keeping us abreast of this.

120 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:42:48pm

re: #113 willowone

Sorry to hear that, we'll hope for a speedy recovery.

Which makes you far better than the Kos Kommies and the Huffer Posters. *spit*

121 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:43:03pm

re: #106 Intrepid

Don't know if this has been posted yet or not - sorry if it has:

Biden cancels campaign events for today and tomorrow due to illness in the family

Jill's mother is very seriously ill, and the hospice has advised them to stay close by.

That's too bad. Always hard for a lady to lose her mom. Prayers for Mrs. Biden's family.

122 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:43:34pm

re: #115 victor_yugo
excellant fanatsy. i was comforted for a moment.

123 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:43:58pm

Which McCain shows up for the debate Tuesday night?

McCain needs to bury "O" with the facts and character issues.

124 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:23pm

re: #114 Sharmuta
You're right about "elitism" Sharm, but make no mistake about it, the MSM and the beltway gang are all for Obama.

125 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:24pm

re: #118 realwest

The irony of the Ds who voted along party lines against the 13th Amendment, running the first "black" candidate, is non-functional on the face of it.

126 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:25pm

re: #109 Egfrow

Yeah, I'm not so hot on Dolly Parton's comment on AK-47s. That's not a weapon Americans usually consider owning.

Agree.

/would really like a chance to shoot one though. :)

127 debutaunt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:39pm

re: #104 willowone

i Had this fantasy, if ObamA won for all republicans to go on strike...silly, but it was nice for a minute or two.

nah nah nahing the consequences.

Time to re-read a good novel.

128 WinterCat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:41pm

re: #104 willowone

I have wondered the same. Without our taxes they'd fall flat on their faces. Not sure about the aftermath...

129 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:43pm

re: #123 jorline

Which McCain shows up for the debate Tuesday night?

McCain needs to bury "O" with the facts and character issues.

Hopefully he's been getting communication tips from Palin.

130 realwest  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:44:48pm

Hey y'all - I was really just dropping by to read what's going on, but I gotta go eat some supper now - hope I get the chance to see you all later tonight!
Take care, all!

131 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:45:10pm

re: #106 Intrepid

Don't know if this has been posted yet or not - sorry if it has:

Biden cancels campaign events for today and tomorrow due to illness in the family

Jill's mother is very seriously ill, and the hospice has advised them to stay close by.

I hope Jills mother is o.k and Sen. Biden can continue on the campaign trail very soon.

132 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:45:12pm

re: #119 Drained Brain

Thanks for keeping us abreast of this.

If there was any doubt before, let none remain:

I hereby declear this the Saturday Night Drinking Boobie Thread!

133 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:45:12pm

re: #116 Intrepid ack, i missed the hospice part. yes that's usually end of the line. We'll hope for a easy passing, and as light grief as possible for family.

134 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:45:18pm

re: #124 realwest

You're right about "elitism" Sharm, but make no mistake about it, the MSM and the beltway gang are all for Obama.

I've noticed. The elitists will even sacrifice their conservative creds to back another elitist rather than allow an outsider in the circle. It's disgusting.

135 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:45:29pm

re: #112 victor_yugo

Eight X? XXXXXXXX?

Is that so pornographic it can't be viewed by anyone?

/on par with South Park

Rent it...you'll enjoy it.

136 debutaunt  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:45:53pm

re: #115 victor_yugo

That is the premise of Atlas Shrugged.

It's depressing how close we are getting to her prediction.

137 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:05pm

re: #129 DeafDog

Hopefully he's been getting communication tips from Palin.

ding

138 Egfrow  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:33pm

re: #126 gettinby

The AK47 is the weapon of Choice for Community Organizers the world over.

139 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:39pm

re: #130 realwest

Hey y'all - I was really just dropping by to read what's going on, but I gotta go eat some supper now - hope I get the chance to see you all later tonight!
Take care, all!

Good night, RW.

140 Nightlight  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:40pm

A sick Huffington Post article.

Bombing by terrorist William Ayers --- morally eqiuivalent to when John McCain dropped bombs on N. Vietnam -

Every time I think of William Ayers, I also think of John McCain, because they are of the same era, and they both believed in the efficacy of violence. According to an article in Friday's New York Times, McCain once said of Ayers, "How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?" He had to use that "could have or did" because no one knows if bombs Ayers built actually killed anyone -- let's say that the odds are against it. Likewise, no one knows whether the bombs John McCain dropped on North Vietnam ever killed anyone...But, of course, John McCain's defense is that he was performing his patriotic duty, and that's what William Ayers would have said, too. I remember the Vietnam War.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

141 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:42pm

re: #132 victor_yugo

If there was any doubt before, let none remain:

I hereby declear this the Saturday Night Drinking Boobie Thread!

(clink!)

142 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:46:50pm

re: #130 realwest

Hey y'all - I was really just dropping by to read what's going on, but I gotta go eat some supper now - hope I get the chance to see you all later tonight!
Take care, all!

G'night {realwest}!

143 eon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:48:54pm

re: #109 Egfrow

Yeah, I'm not so hot on Dolly Parton's comment on AK-47s. That's not a weapon Americans usually consider owning.

Depends on where you are. Here in Central OH semiautomatic Kalashnikovs, and similar rifles like the SKS, are quite common. Mainly because they, and their ammunition, are significantly cheaper than "traditional" sporting arms like Remington .308 bolt-actions (which start at around $700 +) and .30-30 Winchester lever actions (which are now hitting four figures due to collectors snapping them up).

/yes, we Buckeyes are practical - we're also cheapskates

cheers

eon

144 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:48:58pm

re: #138 Egfrow

The AK47 is the weapon of Choice for Community Organizers the world over.

Heh.

/I'm just a lovable shooter...not much of an "organizer."
//except my groupings.

145 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:49:10pm

CNN actually thinks that the National Review is one of the publications that has debunked a close relationship between Obama and Ayers.

I'm not surprised they can't read over there at CNN. It would explain so much.

146 eon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:49:47pm

re: #127 debutaunt

Time to re-read a good novel.

Atlas Shrugged?

cheers

eon

147 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:50:32pm

re: #76 jorline

I'm well, RW...thanks. I don't see the RA until mid November, but I see the Internist next Wednesday. I've been at the baseball park all day, my son had a double hitter today...makes for a loooooooong day.

How are you feeling?

doubleheader?

148 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:50:48pm

re: #134 Sharmuta

I've noticed. The elitists will even sacrifice their conservative creds to back another elitist rather than allow an outsider in the circle. It's disgusting.

That is why it is of the utmost importance that McCain/Palin win the election in November. The Beltway elites would have to deal with someone who is representative of real Americans.

Plus, I just want to rub the elitists' faces in it.

149 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:51:35pm

Once again written for an old thread but I'll post here.
The pivot point is Chicago and to an extent Columbia. Frank Davis is in Chicago on the South Side during the 1930’s to 40’s, Saul Alinsky takes classes at the Unversity of Chicago and is doing Community organizing in the South Side of Chicago neighborhoods that suround the University starting in the 1930’s - 1960s, William Ayers comes from outside of Chicago and returned to the city in 1968 with the SDS, his now wife Bernadine Dohrn spent the years from 1961 to 1967 at the College and Law school at the University of Chicago. Are there any clear links between Alinsky and Ayers? Ayers father had connections with the wealthy and liberal trustees at both the University of Chicago, Northwestern and the Law firm that employed Sidley Austin that employed both Bernadine Dorn and Michelle Obama.

It is possible that Obama’s mother was the 14 year old girl that Frank Davis bosted of seducing. Ten to fifteen years later young Barry (as he then was) is looking up to “Uncle Frank” as a mentor. He goes straight from Columbia, where he lived only blocks from Ayers, to Chicago where he joins an Alinskyite organizing effort, then he goes to Harvard and returns to Chicago where he joins Ayers in dispensing millions of dollars in support of further radical organizing.

150 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:51:47pm

re: #140 Nightlight

A sick Huffington Post article.

Bombing by terrorist William Ayers --- morally eqiuivalent to when John McCain dropped bombs on N. Vietnam -

Every time I think of William Ayers, I also think of John McCain, because they are of the same era, and they both believed in the efficacy of violence. According to an article in Friday's New York Times, McCain once said of Ayers, "How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?" He had to use that "could have or did" because no one knows if bombs Ayers built actually killed anyone -- let's say that the odds are against it. Likewise, no one knows whether the bombs John McCain dropped on North Vietnam ever killed anyone...But, of course, John McCain's defense is that he was performing his patriotic duty, and that's what William Ayers would have said, too. I remember the Vietnam War.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

No reply to this garbage....delete!

151 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:51:53pm

re: #102 realwest

Thanks, my friend. I almost thought I'd catch a little heat over that.

re: #114 Sharmuta

I guess I'd agree. What I like more and more about Palin, is that she is really Me (the growing up, working-class, fargo-living, me), and countless other people like Me, who have voted nearly their entire lives as Democrats and failed to recognize anything other than the personal satisfaction that We've voted with the "Common Man" against "Big Business, Big Oil, Tax Cuts For the Rich" and any other tired, old proletariat cliche the sociali-, er, um, liberals offer up.

And frankly, Govornor Cutie Pie reminds me of my little sister. My little sister is incredibly cute, an absolute sweetheart, exceptionally kind to everyone, and all who have met her absolutely adore her.

And she is not afraid to get in your face if you screw with her - all 105 lbs., at 5'6".

152 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:52:09pm

re: #148 Honorary Yooper


Plus, I just want to rub the elitists' faces in it.

Oh, God, yes, me too.

153 Geepers  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:52:20pm

Nightlight (#140),

I do love Lefty Logic.

So are they saying that Ayres is as bad as McCain? Or that McCain is OK like Ayres.

154 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:52:23pm

re: #145 arethusa

CNN actually thinks that the National Review is one of the publications that has debunked a close relationship between Obama and Ayers.

I'm not surprised they can't read over there at CNN. It would explain so much.

Arrr, CNN is the "Helen Keller" of media, deaf, dumb and blind! (No offense to Helen Keller or her family, I have immense respect for what Helen accomplished.)

155 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:52:27pm

re: #140 Nightlight

That is pathetic...it's worse than pathetic. In fact, it's disgusting.

According to Wiki, Ms. Smiley has a history of assinine reasoning.

Wiki

In an article for Slate shortly after Election Day 2004, she wrote:

"The election results reflect the decision of the right wing to cultivate and exploit ignorance in the citizenry...I suppose the good news is that 55 million Americans have evaded the ignorance-inducing machine. But 58 millions have not...Ignorance and bloodlust have a long tradition in the United States, especially in the red states...The error that progressives have consistently committed over the years is to underestimate the vitality of ignorance in America...The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do - they prefer to be ignorant. As a result, they are virtually unteachable...Listen to what the red state citizens say about themselves, the songs they write, and the sermons they flock to. They know who they are - they are full of original sin and they have a taste for violence."

Sounds a lot like "The One" doesn't it?

156 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:52:51pm

re: #37 spidly

because of BO I am the next lawyer

Because of Obama, I have a mind of my own.

157 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:52:53pm

re: #151 Noam Sayin'

Single?

158 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:53:06pm

re: #147 Archimedes

doubleheader?

thanks for picking me up, Archimedes...long day.

159 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:53:31pm

Not sure if anyone has caught on yet, but the Couric and Gibson interviews were a ruse by Palin and a clever ruse indeed. Of all the networks out there, she chose See-B-S for a reason. Now the world wakes up.

160 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:53:58pm

re: #147 Archimedes

doubleheader?

two games...lol

161 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:54:52pm
162 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:55:13pm

re: #144 gettinby

Up-ding for the punchline.

163 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:55:15pm

re: #140 Nightlight

This fucking moral relativism has got to stop. I am so tired of people equating acts of war to acts of unrest. We went into S. Viet Nam to stop Communist expansion and genocide,while Ayers and his jolly band of idiots chose the enemies side in that fight.

/why is Ayers still breating?

164 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:55:58pm

Oooo- we finally pissed off Random63. He's dinging down all you big meanies!

165 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:56:02pm

re: #159 Allah al Fubar

Not sure if anyone has caught on yet, but the Couric and Gibson interviews were a ruse by Palin and a clever ruse indeed. Of all the networks out there, she chose See-B-S for a reason. Now the world wakes up.

Lowered expectations? Possible, I suppose, but I doubt it...

166 eon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:56:39pm

re: #153 Geepers

Nightlight (#140),

I do love Lefty Logic.

So are they saying that Ayres is as bad as McCain? Or that McCain is OK like Ayres.

More like

Big Bill Ayers Fought The Power John McCain Served.

Or IOW, Ayers was the one who (in their opinion) was aimed in the Politically Correct direction.

That's their opinion, not mine.

/Ayers should be serving a life sentence now, like Ted Kascynski, and should have started it about 1973

cheers

eon

167 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:57:03pm

Everybody is really pissed about the bailout plan congress just passed. Nearly all the house are up for re-election this November. I see the possibility of a Republican sweep of the house, and maybe the Senate. Even if the Obamination happens to win, he would be basically a lame duck through his whole presidency if this occurs. Just food for thought.

168 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:57:32pm

Newest Palin scandal...

This one's going to hurt.

heh

169 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:57:45pm

re: #157 christheprofessor

Single?

She's married, two kids. Husband is former Navy, now a fireman.

But, if you happened to meet her in a bar, she'd flirt with you enough to get you to buy drinks for her entire table, spouses included, and somehow you'd feel good about it.

170 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:57:53pm

re: #165 christheprofessor

Lowered expectations? Possible, I suppose, but I doubt it...

Tactical move. Almost Rovian.

171 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:57:59pm

re: #144 gettinby

Heh.

/I'm just a lovable shooter...not much of an "organizer."
//except my groupingsgroups.

Which is the correct way to state this, anyway?

You know, with my hours at this new job, I'm missing so much of the news and LGF.

It must be said that the GBy household was really wobbly about McCain (though we were, of course, going to vote for pretty much anyone against the O), but with Palin the excitement is certainly prevalent.

My little town outside of Tampa, we have many McCain/Palin signs. Have only seen 1 Obama. Unusual since this town went heavy for McBride-dem as governor against Charlie Crist recently. Good sign (pun intended) I think.

172 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:58:16pm

re: #151 Noam Sayin'

That's just it, Noam- real conservatism is for the little guy and gal. Many of them don't know this however because they've been so lied to by the left and msm. This is part of what makes Sarah so great, and why the left is so damned worried about her- she can break that stranglehold on a lot of people's minds, and they know it. That's why they're so terrified of her.

173 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:58:20pm

re: #159 Allah al Fubar

Not sure if anyone has caught on yet, but the Couric and Gibson interviews were a ruse by Palin and a clever ruse indeed. Of all the networks out there, she chose See-B-S for a reason. Now the world wakes up.

Did Karl Rove give her the idea?

I dunno. Have you been seeing lots of UFOs lately?

174 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:58:25pm

re: #101 arethusa

777 on the previous thread just got back from the event where she said it in CA, and says it was a rally.


The local liberal talk radio shows in So. Cal. 'Air America' were inciting people to disrupt the event and "heckle" Sarah Palin at the Home Depot Center today

175 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:58:36pm

i'm waiting for Sauerkrauthammer to come around,,

176 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:58:41pm

re: #167 SnakeSpit

Everybody is really pissed about the bailout plan congress just passed. Nearly all the house are up for re-election this November. I see the possibility of a Republican sweep of the house, and maybe the Senate. Even if the Obamination happens to win, he would be basically a lame duck through his whole presidency if this occurs. Just food for thought.

He'd still get his Supreme Court nominees passed, and that's the scariest thing to me. Republicans don't have the onions to oppose Dem nominees...

177 Geepers  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:58:49pm

Sharmuta (#164),

Oooo- we finally pissed off Random63. He's dinging down all you big meanies!

Aww, isn't that cute.

178 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:59:02pm

re: #155 DeafDog
Sounds like she and Obama are on the same page.

179 Nightlight  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:59:18pm

re: #155 DeafDog

Sounds a lot like "The One" doesn't it?

Yes, the One's "bitter, clinging to guns and religion'' statement.

I just can't comprehend how people can think this way.

180 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:59:29pm

re: #167 SnakeSpit

Everybody is really pissed about the bailout plan congress just passed. Nearly all the house are up for re-election this November. I see the possibility of a Republican sweep of the house, and maybe the Senate. Even if the Obamination happens to win, he would be basically a lame duck through his whole presidency if this occurs. Just food for thought.

Yaaar, 'me plan is to vote against everyone with the word incumbent behind their name. Let he chips fall where they may!

181 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:59:34pm

re: #170 Allah al Fubar

Tactical move. Almost Rovian.

Yes, I understood that. But in a close election, I can't see any intelligent person knowingly playing the fool in the hopes of looking good later...

182 gettinby  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:59:39pm

re: #162 Noam Sayin'

Up-ding for the punchline.

:)

183 eon  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 4:59:48pm

re: #155 DeafDog

Someone who expresses contempt for religion, and then two sentences later invokes "original sin"?

I don't know if liberalism is a mental disorder, as some maintain, but I know the signs of paranoid schizophrenia when I see them- and that sort of contradictory disconnect is right out of DSM-IV.

/good grief

cheers

eon

184 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:00:06pm

Saudi Cleric Says Women Must Wear One-Eye Veil to Prevent 'Seduction'

Why the One-Eye Veil?...give all sunglasses.

Religion of tolerance.
//

185 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:00:25pm

re: #175 Gorgon Zola
i adore him, but i am quite testy at him last couple of months.

186 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:01:04pm

re: #167 SnakeSpit

Everybody is really pissed about the bailout plan congress just passed. Nearly all the house are up for re-election this November. I see the possibility of a Republican sweep of the house, and maybe the Senate. Even if the Obamination happens to win, he would be basically a lame duck through his whole presidency if this occurs. Just food for thought.


I'm voting every incumbent OUT this year in my state. Every ballot has a write in candidate so... I'm thinking of voting for Spanky. You know, that cute kid from the Lil Rascals! Or maybe Alfalfa. Or Darla. Or Sponge Bob. Thomas the Tank Engine. The list goes on.

187 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:01:22pm

re: #168 Intrepid

Newest Palin scandal...

This one's going to hurt.

heh


We're screwed, she didn't bring enough cupcakes.

188 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:01:47pm

re: #148 Honorary Yooper

That is why it is of the utmost importance that McCain/Palin win the election in November. The Beltway elites would have to deal with someone who is representative of real Americans.

Plus, I just want to rub the elitists' faces in it.

I couldn't agree more, Yoop.

189 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:02:00pm

re: #174 joekowalski247

The local liberal talk radio shows in So. Cal. 'Air America' were inciting people to disrupt the event and "heckle" Sarah Palin at the Home Depot Center today

/Well, of course. Home Depot is Joe Biden's turf.

190 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:03:17pm

re: #175 Gorgon Zola

i'm waiting for Sauerkrauthammer to come around,,

Don't hold your breath.

191 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:03:25pm

re: #186 Allah al Fubar

I'm voting every incumbent OUT this year in my state. Every ballot has a write in candidate so... I'm thinking of voting for Spanky. You know, that cute kid from the Lil Rascals! Or maybe Alfalfa. Or Darla. Or Sponge Bob. Thomas the Tank Engine. The list goes on.

About the little rascals. I was trying to figure out the little black girls name in that show. Could you help me out?

192 kynna  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:04:05pm

I read this yesterday. She doesn't interest me at all anymore. From now on I'll suspect anything she writes because her most 'appreciated' column was full of ill informed invective.

I'll skip her and go to those who have done their research in the future. Why bother with her anyway? She was Andrew Sullivan in that last piece. And I don't call someone that name lightly.

193 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:04:17pm

re: #189 arethusa

/Well, of course. Home Depot is Joe Biden's turf.


He' like Santa Claus at Christmas time, There's one Joe Biden appearing at all the Home Depots across the country.

194 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:04:47pm

re: #187 joekowalski247

We're screwed, she didn't bring enough cupcakes.

I'll betcha the anonymous snitch CNN used was the kid who didn't get a cupcake. Piper will be gunning for that one.

195 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:04pm

re: #178 willowone

re: #179 Nightlight

re: #183 eon

Smiley says, "The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do...."

To me, that's a big part of what makes an American an American.

What baffles me as much as anything is that she is implying the opposite about the progressives. That they want to be told what to do. Is that possible?

196 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:19pm

re: #190 Honorary Yooper He has really disappointed me, I wish he'd just be positive hold his nose, close his eyes and have a one night stand if needed.
with the msm full of smears and jeers, I can't take fellow reps slashing and cutting our own.

197 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:36pm

re: #64 arethusa

Palin made the comments about Ayers earlier today in both Colorado and at a rally in California. Is California in play?

*is confused*

I read somewhere that the conservative "silent majority" (ok, maybe not a majority, but certainly a "many") in "out-state" CA are rallying, stimulated by Palin, and while it may not be quite enough to tip CA to McCain, there is a possibility when factoring in the upset Hillary supporters.

If you go to [Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...] you will notice in the "Battleground States", CA is not an "Other state" in that category. RCP average for CA is Obama by 13%, but look at the trend. You will see McCain accelerating.

You also must discount the polls by some, as I believe Kerry was winning in the polls nationwide and even in the exit polls, but Bush won because people lied to the pollsters. My conservative wife lied to one recently here just for fun.

198 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:48pm

re: #189 arethusa

/Well, of course. Home Depot is Joe Biden's turf.

Arrr, Biden wouldn't know what to do with a power saw even if you hit him over the head with it.....

199 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:51pm

re: #194 Intrepid

I'll betcha the anonymous snitch CNN used was the kid who didn't get a cupcake. Piper will be gunning for that one.

That little rugrat's already got a book deal.

200 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:05:52pm

i have a real knack for posting on dead or dying threads. repost.

Commander In Chief of The Armed Forces of The United States Of America - Barack Hussien Obama?
people its not going to happen. its not too late. the polls are designed to dispirit you. DON"T BELIEVE IT.

I would advise McCain Palin to go with four day media cycles and expose one by one the type of people that BO has hung out with. starting today with the Ayers stuff, I'd keeping hitting that and letting it play out in the media for about 4 days. Next I'd role right into Rezko for another 4 day cycle, then Wright another four days, then Khalidi, and on and on. keep BO on the defensive and stretch the stories out for weeks so the public suddenly sees the light, that there is a pattern of shady associations. of course all along you never let up on the central themes of inexperience, tax raiser, unfit to lead, dangerous on foreign policy, etc.

201 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:06:27pm

P.Diddy Scared of Palin

Music mogul Sean ” P. Diddy” Combs, head of Bad Boy Entertainment, who grew up in Harlem, and once famously rapped ” Can’t Nobody Hold me Down”, has admitted in a blog that he is” very scared”. What’s the source of his fear? Sarah Palin.

WTF is a P. "Diddy"?

202 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:06:31pm

CA is NOW an "Other state"

/PIMF

203 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:06:33pm

re: #180 LoFlyer

Yaaar, 'me plan is to vote against everyone with the word incumbent behind their name. Let he chips fall where they may!


Amen

204 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:06:40pm

So, I had to out-of-the-ordinary happenings today... Got an unsolicited copy of the Obsession DVD in the mail and got a phone call from T. Boone Pickens...

205 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:07:18pm

re: #195 DeafDog I like your evaluation : P

206 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:07:27pm

re: #204 christheprofessor

So, I had to out-of-the-ordinary happenings today... Got an unsolicited copy of the Obsession DVD in the mail and got a phone call from T. Boone Pickens...

Is he coming by to watch the film with you?

207 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:07:31pm

re: #198 LoFlyer

Arrr, Biden wouldn't know what to do with a power saw even if you hit him over the head with it.....

/He could help rebuild Katie's Restaurant so he could eat there again...

208 kynna  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:07:34pm

re: #187 joekowalski247

We're screwed, she didn't bring enough cupcakes.

LMAO

If I'm still alive I plan to vote for Piper Palin for president in 40 years. :D

209 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:07:53pm

re: #28 gettinby

Heinz?

"gtnby" -

Heinz was the original, and was an advertiser in the women's zionist magazine HADASSAH for years. After Sen. Heinz died in the air crash -
apparently different deal.

-S-

210 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:08pm

re: #184 jorline

Saudi Cleric Says Women Must Wear One-Eye Veil to Prevent 'Seduction'

Why the One-Eye Veil?...give all sunglasses.

Religion of tolerance.
//

I have a solution. Take all their men to the veterinarian and get them fixed.

211 seekeroftruth  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:10pm

Sorry if this has already been posted:
Rasmussen has the VP debate as Biden 45% - Palin 37%

but look at the first question:

1* How much of the Vice-Presidential Debate did you watch live last night?

58% All of it

19% Most of it

14% Some of it

8% None of it

1% Not sure


They are including the 8% who didn't watch the debate and the 1% who have no idea.

212 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:14pm
"How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?" He had to use that "could have or did" because no one knows if bombs Ayers built actually killed anyone -- let's say that the odds are against it. Likewise, no one knows whether the bombs John McCain dropped on North Vietnam ever killed anyone...But, of course, John McCain's defense is that he was performing his patriotic duty, and that's what William Ayers would have said, too. I remember the Vietnam War.
So they are saying Ayers had approval to kill,
given him by another Democrat Congress.
213 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:26pm

re: #203 Allah al Fubar

Amen

Yaaar, zero leadership equals zero votes....

214 pingjockey  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:34pm

re: #201 jorline
Diddy-noun, a 'music' person, asshat, wanker, racist.

215 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:38pm

re: #140 Nightlight

A sick Huffington Post article.

Bombing by terrorist William Ayers --- morally eqiuivalent to when John McCain dropped bombs on N. Vietnam -

Every time I think of William Ayers, I also think of John McCain, because they are of the same era, and they both believed in the efficacy of violence. According to an article in Friday's New York Times, McCain once said of Ayers, "How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?" He had to use that "could have or did" because no one knows if bombs Ayers built actually killed anyone -- let's say that the odds are against it. Likewise, no one knows whether the bombs John McCain dropped on North Vietnam ever killed anyone...But, of course, John McCain's defense is that he was performing his patriotic duty, and that's what William Ayers would have said, too. I remember the Vietnam War.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Do people like that still exist? How many times has that line of "thinking" been crushed under the weight of reason.

Lesson number one:
Killing murderers is good. It protects innocent lives.
Killing good guys is bad. It targets innocent lives.

McCain killed murderers, that was good. Ayers killed or attempted to kill innocent lives, that is evil. McCain good; Ayers evil.

I really wonder if there are some people who just can't think logically. They just can't comprehend basic truths and so you have to deal with weirdos like that who really think they are insightful people.

216 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:48pm

re: #210 lifeofthemind

I have a solution. Take all their men to the veterinarian and get them fixed.

roflmao...ding

217 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:08:54pm

re: #198 LoFlyer

Arrr, Biden wouldn't know what to do with a power saw even if you hit him over the head with it.....

this reminds me of an episode of Gilligans Island, when skipper gives a shovel to Mr. Howell and Mr. Howell asks his wife "Lovey how does one work one of these things"

218 Outrider  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:09:02pm

re: #143 eon

Depends on where you are. Here in Central OH semiautomatic Kalashnikovs, and similar rifles like the SKS, are quite common. Mainly because they, and their ammunition, are significantly cheaper than "traditional" sporting arms like Remington .308 bolt-actions (which start at around $700 +) and .30-30 Winchester lever actions (which are now hitting four figures due to collectors snapping them up).

/yes, we Buckeyes are practical - we're also cheapskates

cheers

eon

For the very reasons that the AK-47 is used by guerrillas around the world is also the reason a lot of folks here like them so much (the semi-fire mode version). They are cheap, the ammo is cheap, they are effective and easy to fire as well as easy to maintain. They are also fun to fire. I used it off and on in the Army and they are even more fun to fire in full auto.

219 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:09:03pm

re: #206 Noam Sayin'

Is he coming by to watch the film with you?

He's providing the electricity...

220 wolfie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:09:19pm

re: #172 Sharmuta

I think you're right. In fact, I think her social class bothers them more than her gender. If a female member of the elite.....Hutchinson, Fiorina, etc........had been picked, I don't think the media would have gone nearly so berserk in their fear and loathing.

221 The Shadow Do  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:09:30pm

re: #172 Sharmuta

That's just it, Noam- real conservatism is for the little guy and gal. Many of them don't know this however because they've been so lied to by the left and msm. This is part of what makes Sarah so great, and why the left is so damned worried about her- she can break that stranglehold on a lot of people's minds, and they know it. That's why they're so terrified of her.

That is the best and most plausible explanation I have heard to date on PDS. I think you have put your finger on it.

It also helps to explain the disdain coming from the Conservative elite. The common thread there is a general mocking of 'populism'. Sarah Palin is a huge contrepointe to the status quo on any end of the political spectrum. Terrific, I haven't felt so anti-establishment since the 60's

222 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:09:41pm

re: #202 Max Darkside

CA is NOW an "Other state"

/PIMF

California signing in.

223 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:09:48pm

re: #208 kynna

If I'm still alive I plan to vote for Piper Palin for president in 40 years. :D

The Kennedy's were once a USA "Royal Family"
The Bush's have become more so (2 pres, gov's, etc.)
Watch the Palin's become the next.

224 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:09:49pm

re: #193 joekowalski247

He' like Santa Claus at Christmas time, There's one Joe Biden appearing at all the Home Depots across the country.

/Does he say Ho Ho Ho like Neil Kinnock used to?

225 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:10:06pm

re: #197 Max Darkside

Just saw a post about this over at the Hillary Clinton Forum. Just before the CA primary RCP polls had Obama up by 1.9, but Hillary took the state by just over 9 points.

A 10 point swing is not to be taken lightly. And if it was due to the Bradley Effect, then perhaps we can count on it again on Nov 4.

I don't expect McCain to take CA, but it sure doesn't hurt to buff up the popular vote totals.

226 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:10:16pm

re: #174 joekowalski247

The local liberal talk radio shows in So. Cal. 'Air America' were inciting people to disrupt the event and "heckle" Sarah Palin at the Home Depot Center today

Since it's "Air America", I doubt anyone will be there. Who the hell listens to "Air America"? Their ratings, last I looked, were in the proverbial toilet awaiting a double flush.

227 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:10:21pm

re: #201 jorline

P.Diddy Scared of Palin

WTF is a P. "Diddy"?

jorline -

A P. Diddy is a smart businessman who let his flunkie cop to an illegal weapons charge. If you recall, "J. Lo" left him at the time.

-S-

228 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:10:32pm

re: #176 christheprofessor

He'd still get his Supreme Court nominees passed, and that's the scariest thing to me. Republicans don't have the onions to oppose Dem nominees...

You have a very good point there. That would be very bad indeed, but still, he wouldn't be able to tank the whole country as some fear.

229 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:10:32pm

re: #106 Intrepid

Bummer. I'll keep his family in my thoughts.

230 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:10:36pm

re: #191 x-wing

About the little rascals. I was trying to figure out the little black girls name in that show. Could you help me out?

Yes. That is Buckwheat. Who bears a striking resemblence to Michelle Hussein Obama. I can't post Buckwheat's pic because I'll get the whammy stick.

231 imtoast  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:10:56pm

re: #26 USA

McCain/Palin picks up two BIG endorsements

Leave it to me to wonder who the other one was. It took me a couple of minutes to figure it out....so I'm slow, I still get there!

232 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:11:27pm

re: #201 jorline

P.Diddy Scared of Palin


WTF is a P. "Diddy"?

That's what will be jumping on the beds in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House if you know what happens.

233 kynna  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:11:31pm

re: #217 joekowalski247

this reminds me of an episode of Gilligans Island, when skipper gives a shovel to Mr. Howell and Mr. Howell asks his wife "Lovey how does one work one of these things"

Ugh. Did you have to bring up Jon Kerry? ;D

234 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:11:33pm

re: #211 seekeroftruth

They are including the 8% who didn't watch the debate and the 1% who have no idea.


1% didn't even know if they watched it... WTF?! Hahahaaa....

235 Born Again Republican  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:11:41pm

Fox News is reporting on the financial crisis and they are naming names! Obama's ties to Acorn and his job in promoting sub prime loans was revealed. Just started!

236 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:12:15pm

re: #223 Max Darkside

The Kennedy's were once a USA "Royal Family"
The Bush's have become more so (2 pres, gov's, etc.)
Watch the Palin's become the next.

Gawd, I hope not. I'm not fond of this pseudo-European royalty thing we've been doing...

237 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:12:18pm

re: #211 seekeroftruth

Sorry if this has already been posted:
Rasmussen has the VP debate as Biden 45% - Palin 37%

but look at the first question:

They are including the 8% who didn't watch the debate and the 1% who have no idea.

What always blows me away is - particularly in this case, because it's just too rich - are the people who have no idea why they're answering the poll, but answer it anyway.

238 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:12:45pm

re: #226 Honorary Yooper

Since it's "Air America", I doubt anyone will be there. Who the hell listens to "Air America"? Their ratings, last I looked, were in the proverbial toilet awaiting a double flush.

yeah they're probable only still on the air because I listen to them from time to time.

239 wolfie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:12:46pm

re: #176 christheprofessor

He'd still get his Supreme Court nominees passed, and that's the scariest thing to me. Republicans don't have the onions to oppose Dem nominees...

That is what scares me.
The GOP doesn't have the sense or cojones to grill the Ginsburg types on their legal positivism...i.e., their belief that rulings should be based on "enlightened opinion" rather than on written law.

240 Geepers  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:13:18pm

seekeroftruth (#211),

Sorry if this has already been posted:
Rasmussen has the VP debate as Biden 45% - Palin 37%

but look at the first question:

1* How much of the Vice-Presidential Debate did you watch live last night?
58% All of it

19% Most of it

14% Some of it

8% None of it

1% Not sure

They are including the 8% who didn't watch the debate and the 1% who have no idea.

That's hysterical.

And they want us to take these polls seriously?

241 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:13:19pm

re: #180 LoFlyer

Yaaar, 'me plan is to vote against everyone with the word incumbent behind their name. Let he chips fall where they may!


Be careful though, a few of the incumbents voted against the bailout. There are lists of who voted for what.

242 ibmkeyboard[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:13:29pm
243 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:13:46pm

OT
I've been searching the web this afternoon for weathermen underground info, etc. Wouldn't it be interesting if this was the same Naomi Jaffe who was involved with the group?
Yoga for Obama. [Link: my.barackobama.com...]

244 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:13:49pm

re: #217 joekowalski247

this reminds me of an episode of Gilligans Island, when skipper gives a shovel to Mr. Howell and Mr. Howell asks his wife "Lovey how does one work one of these things"

Arrr, I have no doubt Lovey could operate the shovel...Mr. Howell was hopeless. My favorite millionaire after Jed Clampett!

245 seekeroftruth  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:14:00pm

re: #234 Max Darkside

1% didn't even know if they watched it... WTF?! Hahahaaa....

Isn't that hilarious?!

246 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:14:30pm

re: #235 Born Again Republican

Fox News is reporting on the financial crisis and they are naming names! Obama's ties to Acorn and his job in promoting sub prime loans was revealed. Just started!

Well it's about EFFING TIME!

Sorry, I'm feeling a bit Glenn Beckish at the moment.

247 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:14:52pm

re: #215 Archimedes


I really wonder if there are some people who just can't think logically. They just can't comprehend basic truths and so you have to deal with weirdos like that who really think they are insightful people.

I know lots of smart liberals, but I've never met one who thinks logically. Has anyone?

248 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:14:53pm

is/are?

Sorry, GOTC...

249 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:14:53pm

re: #228 SnakeSpit

You have a very good point there. That would be very bad indeed, but still, he wouldn't be able to tank the whole country as some fear.

Agreed. He'll still be able to do some serious long-term damage, though.

He'll bring us down more slowly than the original plan...

250 kynna  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:15:08pm

re: #236 christheprofessor

Gawd, I hope not. I'm not fond of this pseudo-European royalty thing we've been doing...

Oh, me either. I don't see any of the other Palins going into politics -- especially after this experience. Piper's a natural crowd-pleaser, though.

It's just a joke anyway. Who knows where we'll be in 40 years. We still have to get past that Mayan calendar thing.

251 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:15:14pm

re: #240 Geepers

seekeroftruth (#211),

That's hysterical.

And they want us to take these polls seriously?

I want to meet 'Not Sure'....wait wasnt he played by Luke Wilson.

252 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:15:26pm

re: #235 Born Again Republican

Fox News is reporting on the financial crisis and they are naming names! Obama's ties to Acorn and his job in promoting sub prime loans was revealed. Just started!

"B.A.R." -

Sit tight and watch "Hannity's America" on Fox News tomorrow night - If there IS a bomb, SEAN will throw it.

-S-

253 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:15:44pm

re: #244 LoFlyer

Arrr, I have no doubt Lovey could operate the shovel...Mr. Howell was hopeless. My favorite millionaire after Jed Clampett!

I always wondered who dry cleaned Lovey's clothes on Gilligan's Island.

254 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:15:51pm

We have real problems when Obama becomes French fashion.

Comes complete with flip-flop gloves.

255 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:16:05pm

Whoa! Who rogered the thread?

256 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:16:35pm

re: #230 Allah al Fubar

Yes. That is Buckwheat. Who bears a striking resemblence to Michelle Hussein Obama. I can't post Buckwheat's pic because I'll get the whammy stick.

No, it was a girl. Looked like she had toilet paper in her hair. I just can't remember her name.

257 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:16:47pm

re: #211 seekeroftruth

Sorry if this has already been posted:
Rasmussen has the VP debate as Biden 45% - Palin 37%

but look at the first question:

They are including the 8% who didn't watch the debate and the 1% who have no idea.

B.S. Palin trounced Biden. Who are these people?

258 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:16:48pm

re: #239 wolfie

That is what scares me.
The GOP doesn't have the sense or cojones to grill the Ginsburg types on their legal positivism...i.e., their belief that rulings should be based on "enlightened opinion" rather than on written law.

Once they borked Bork, we should have taken the gloves off. Darth Vader Ginzburg (sp?) should have been smacked down with twice the force that they used on Bork...

259 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:16:59pm

re: #244 LoFlyer

Arrr, I have no doubt Lovey could operate the shovel...Mr. Howell was hopeless. My favorite millionaire after Jed Clampett!


and a conservative Republican...Shh or that little secret will be exploited by Obama.

260 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:17:07pm

re: #256 x-wing

No, it was a girl. Looked like she had toilet paper in her hair. I just can't remember her name.

Buckwheat played both a boy and a girl.

261 Perry  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:17:16pm

re: #248 Noam Sayin'

is

if subject is singular, verb must agree.

262 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:17:38pm

One thing that concerns me, tho, is Intrade's positioning of Obama vs. McCain:
[Link: www.intrade.com...]

They have a 66% probability on Obama winning. Does anyone know how well they were on the mark last time with Kerry?... because they were running this market during the last election. If I remember right, they had Kerry up too, but then swung fast to Bush at the last minute.

263 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:17:39pm

re: #26 USA

Now Sarah can get balanced support from both the left and the right.

264 hazzyday  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:18:02pm

Muslim cultures will go crazy if Sen. Obama is elected President. There will be jumping up and down in the Arab Street, but not because of a terrorist attack. They will start to put out how useful violent jihad is to change America at it's core.

265 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:18:09pm

re: #253 Allah al Fubar

I always wondered who dry cleaned Lovey's clothes on Gilligan's Island.

Yaaar, I was hoping to dry clean Mary Ann or Ginger! Whoops!

266 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:18:15pm

(in late, and haven't skimmed the thread)

Parker is indeed fair-minded, and she has a mind of her own. Crow ... yes ... but Parker has the character it takes to admit that she's eating it.
I was *jaw-drop* dumfounded by her earlier columns, but this one is by the same Parker I've been reading for years.

267 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:18:29pm

re: #257 Archimedes

Do polls on who won debates also break down by party affiliation? Anyone know?

268 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:18:40pm

re: #244 LoFlyer

Arrr, I have no doubt Lovey could operate the shovel...Mr. Howell was hopeless. My favorite millionaire after Jed Clampett!

I have always wondered why the Howells took a couple of trunks full of clothing on what was supposed to be a 3 hour tour....

One of life's great conundrums.

269 hazzyday  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:18:56pm

re: #262 Max Darkside

I don't know what intrade is and not sure if I have an interest in it.

270 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:00pm

re: #261 Perry

is

if subject is singular, verb must agree.

Yeah, I already knew I f*cked up. That's why I called attention to it.

271 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:23pm

re: #254 jorline

We have real problems when Obama becomes French fashion.

Comes complete with flip-flop gloves.

Oh, fer cryin' out loud! That's ridiculous.

Hiya, Jorline, how are you this evening?

Everyone else?

272 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:27pm

As an illustration of how hard it is to get info out I thought of trying to raise money for billboard slogans. Not hard to come up with catchy good ad copy. Then I realized all the billboards in the NY region are owned by Viacom. Stalin dreamed of having message control this good.

273 Born Again Republican  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:27pm

re: #252 Dr. Shalit

This is an hour long program. Next segment... who saw it and tried to stop it!

274 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:46pm

re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth

Funny that, how much better Gov. Palin comes off in a live debate verses a creatively edited interview with an MSM stooge.

And that's probably precisely the point that Parker missed earlier.

275 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:49pm

re: #251 joekowalski247

I want to meet 'Not Sure'....wait wasnt he played by Luke Wilson.


yes and don't forget Not Sure was the smartest man on earth.

276 wolfie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:56pm

re: #258 christheprofessor

Once they borked Bork, we should have taken the gloves off. Darth Vader Ginzburg (sp?) should have been smacked down with twice the force that they used on Bork...

AMEN.

277 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:19:58pm

re: #201 jorline

P.Diddy Scared of Palin


WTF is a P. "Diddy"?

I think it's kinda like when I miss a little when I'm taking a piss, and spray the toilet lid.

278 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:06pm

Buckwheat as a Boy: [Link: artfiles.art.com...]

Buckwheat as a girl: [Link: www.thorninpaw.com...]

279 Geepers  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:10pm

jorline (#254),

We have real problems when Obama becomes French fashion.

I saw that earlier. What's up with the bullet-hole-in-the-head make up?

280 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:11pm

re: #266 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(in late, and haven't skimmed the thread)

Parker is indeed fair-minded, and she has a mind of her own. Crow ... yes ... but Parker has the character it takes to admit that she's eating it.
I was *jaw-drop* dumfounded by her earlier columns, but this one is by the same Parker I've been reading for years.

{pBMB}

Cold front hit north TX yet? LOL

281 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:18pm

re: #265 LoFlyer

Yaaar, I was hoping to dry clean Mary Ann or Ginger! Whoops!

OR?

282 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:40pm

re: #250 kynna

We still have to get past that Mayan calendar thing.


What's up with that? It's not a Y2M thing, is it?

283 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:43pm

i knew she was going to do well.
she went out there thinking of her children, especially her son in iraq, her husband, her friends, her fellow citizens. she knows what is riding on this election. it didn't even occur to her to choke.

284 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:45pm

Am I the only one with a rogered thread?

285 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:50pm

re: #268 Intrepid

I have always wondered why the Howells took a couple of trunks full of clothing on what was supposed to be a 3 hour tour....

One of life's great conundrums.

Haaare! They brought a trunk of clothes and an invisible maid!

286 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:20:52pm

re: #260 Allah al Fubar

Buckwheat played both a boy and a girl.

No way?

287 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:02pm

re: #262 Max Darkside

One thing that concerns me, tho, is Intrade's positioning of Obama vs. McCain:
[Link: www.intrade.com...]

They have a 66% probability on Obama winning. Does anyone know how well they were on the mark last time with Kerry?... because they were running this market during the last election. If I remember right, they had Kerry up too, but then swung fast to Bush at the last minute.

At this point, I don't think they are reliable. These markets (I play the non-money ones sometimes) tend to follow polls quite closely, and often have greater margins than the polls do. Therefore, if McCain's polls go up, expect the odds to become more even again. But they also - like Zogby, who was right in 2004 - tend to adjust closer to the election because of their sense of what's happening on the ground.

So, if in two weeks the same odds apply, then worry.

288 Perry  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:10pm

re: #270 Noam Sayin'

Ah. Missed the tenor. Boys were gone all day; I'm all full of unneeded corrections.

289 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:16pm

re: #231 imtoast

Ahem::
Here they both are.

290 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:23pm

re: #265 LoFlyer

Yaaar, I was hoping to dry clean Mary Ann or Ginger! Whoops!

I wondered how Lancome delivered makeup to Ginger... and marijuana to Mary Ann.

/Gilligan!

291 ibmkeyboard[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:28pm
292 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:21:48pm

re: #267 arethusa

Do polls on who won debates also break down by party affiliation? Anyone know?

If they did then Dems would always win since there are millions more registered as Democrat than Republican.

294 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:03pm

re: #281 joekowalski247

OR?

Yaaar, no or, just do!

295 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:07pm

re: #279 Geepers

jorline (#254),


I saw that earlier. What's up with the bullet-hole-in-the-head make up?

Probably to signify that it takes someone with massive head trauma to vote Obama

296 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:10pm

re: #277 SnakeSpit

I think it's kinda like when I miss a little when I'm taking a piss, and spray the toilet lid.

OMG LMAO!

You owe me a keyboard and windex for my monitor. LMAO

297 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:10pm

re: #269 hazzyday

I don't know what intrade is and not sure if I have an interest in it.

The upside is people are putting real money on their opinions. The downside is that it is worthless because they aren't even Americans. It is illegal for US citizens to engage in internet gambling.

298 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:13pm

the thread is wacky

299 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:22pm

re: #271 reine.de.tout

Oh, fer cryin' out loud! That's ridiculous.

Hiya, Jorline, how are you this evening?

Everyone else?

{reine}

Good to see you...I'm well, thanks...and you?

You mean you're not going to wear the "New" fashion?

300 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:25pm

re: #269 hazzyday

I don't know what intrade is and not sure if I have an interest in it.

It's a stock market of sorts. Consider it like horse racing where people are betting *real money* on who wins, which makes a completely different kind of "indicator" of what is to happen. It can be manipulated, either by money to profess a result, or to trick other betters into mistakes, just like the stock market.

301 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:25pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Yeah- many had no faith in her. They need to ask themselves why and be honest with themselves. Blaming her performance with Couric & Gibson is a cop out. I think there are a number of so-called conservatives who need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask themselves- just what is conservatism? Because if this party is ever going to become dominate, "mainstream" if you will, we need to leave behind the notion of blue-blood, country club elitism and realize that working class folks, and middle income Americans make just as good a conservative as the cliched rich folks. To me- that's really where a lot of Palin's friendly fire has been originating, and it not only makes me sad, but angry too.

I think you made a damned good point there.

302 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:22:59pm

re: #284 Sharmuta

Am I the only one with a rogered thread?

It's going ok for me.

303 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:23:02pm

re: #284 Sharmuta

Am I the only one with a rogered thread?

i'm rogered big time, shar.

304 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:23:19pm

re: #252 Dr. Shalit

"B.A.R." -

Sit tight and watch "Hannity's America" on Fox News tomorrow night - If there IS a bomb, SEAN will throw it.

-S-

Hannity is supposed to have a bomb to throw tomorrow night, according to

305 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:23:22pm

re: #278 Allah al Fubar

Buckwheat as a Boy: [Link: artfiles.art.com...]

Buckwheat as a girl: [Link: www.thorninpaw.com...]

O.k. but what was her name?

306 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:23:23pm

re: #284 Sharmuta

what is rogered thread?

307 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:23:23pm

re: #298 ibmkeyboard

the thread is wacky

I think it's your quoting links. They're not showing up as links in a quote for me, but as the URL string. Just a theory, mind you.

308 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:23:37pm

re: #280 jorline

{pBMB}

Cold front hit north TX yet? LOL

Do I have my A/C on?

no
yes, for a while at least

309 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:23:45pm

re: #284 Sharmuta

Am I the only one with a rogered thread?

Every now and then, my whole screen explodes. Like the thread is 4 times its normal size.

And of course, I still get the grayed out "new comments" button sometimes.

And I am frequently logged out.

I don't know if these issues are just mine, or if they are affecting everyone.

310 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:10pm

re: #301 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thanks! Keep reading- I think I made a couple more, but then- I'm biased. ;)

311 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:18pm

re: #247 arethusa

They often think well as far as they go, but do not see the really big picture & so are optimistic in foolish ways.

IMHO.

312 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:23pm

re: #295 joekowalski247

Probably to signify that it takes someone with massive head trauma to vote Obama

Self induced lobotomy?

313 Perry  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:30pm

re: #298 ibmkeyboard

the thread is wacky

Snakespit's fault. (#277)

314 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:30pm

re: #257 Archimedes

B.S. Palin trounced Biden. Who are these people?

"Arch" -

THE WITS of NIT! I remain honest enough to tell you that if you watched only the first 30 minutes of McCain v. Obama, you might have thought Obama trounced McCain. For what it is worth, before the poll was pulled down, the last I saw on DRUDGE, Gov. Palin was getting 69% winner votes and even AOL was close, favoring Gov. Palin by about 2%. Look at it this way, the wagons have been circled. Hope we "In'jun's have the firepower to blast through this POOP!

-S-

315 TS  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:31pm

OT, kinda, but still in the political realm.
My son told me his high school, a public school, announced that kids could volunteer at the Obama headquarters and for the Obama campaign and earn volunteer hours (they have to do so many every year to graduate). They said nothing about the McCain campaign.

316 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:35pm

re: #299 jorline

{reine}

Good to see you...I'm well, thanks...and you?

You mean you're not going to wear the "New" fashion?

Not unless it has a lipstick mouth on it, with "Read My Lipstick" printed over it.

Hm.

317 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:42pm

re: #283 nyc redneck

i knew she was going to do well.
she went out there thinking of her children, especially her son in iraq, her husband, her friends, her fellow citizens. she knows what is riding on this election. it didn't even occur to her to choke.

Evening, tomorrow I'll be doing some campaigning in town then hope to see the movie. Anybody else around here have a movie review?

318 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:24:42pm

re: #309 reine.de.tout

No- the thread's triple wide for me at the moment.

319 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:25:00pm

re: #312 jorline

Self induced lobotomy?

something like that..

320 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:25:17pm

re: #284 Sharmuta

Am I the only one with a rogered thread?

Yep.

321 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:25:34pm

re: #320 Noam Sayin'

Yep.

Nope.

322 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:25:40pm

re: #309 reine.de.tout
the logged out happens to me often, also if i try reload i often end off a website search page, not so much today but often when videos are up, during debates and such.

323 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:26:08pm

re: #309 reine.de.tout

the thread has been stretched on the x axis at the moment, on my dsl connected i mac.

324 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:26:20pm

re: #315 TS

OT, kinda, but still in the political realm.
My son told me his high school, a public school, announced that kids could volunteer at the Obama headquarters and for the Obama campaign and earn volunteer hours (they have to do so many every year to graduate). They said nothing about the McCain campaign.

Raise a stink, get someone fired.

325 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:26:36pm

re: #208 kynna

LMAO

If I'm still alive I plan to vote for Piper Palin for president in 40 years. :D

She's just the cutest little cutie I've seen in a long time. Quite the little camera hog too.

326 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:01pm

re: #239 wolfie

That is what scares me.
The GOP doesn't have the sense or cojones to grill the Ginsburg types on their legal positivism...i.e., their belief that rulings should be based on "enlightened opinion" rather than on written law.

Does it matter. The nominee would just lie anyway.

327 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:02pm

re: #310 Sharmuta

Thanks! Keep reading- I think I made a couple more, but then- I'm biased. ;)

Hell, I've skipped on down here to the bottom, otherwise I'd NEVER catch up.

328 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:03pm

re: #317 lifeofthemind

Evening, tomorrow I'll be doing some campaigning in town then hope to see the movie. Anybody else around here have a movie review?

is it playing at many theaters?

329 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:03pm

re: #288 Perry

Ah. Missed the tenor. Boys were gone all day; I'm all full of unneeded corrections.

Get a scooter.

Nearly 2,800 miles this summer. I hope to hit 3k before I put my baby away.

330 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:04pm

re: #305 x-wing

O.k. but what was her name?

Heck, I dunno... you have a computer look it up! It was the same child, though.

331 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:16pm

re: #309 reine.de.tout

Every now and then, my whole screen explodes. Like the thread is 4 times its normal size.

And of course, I still get the grayed out "new comments" button sometimes.

And I am frequently logged out.

I don't know if these issues are just mine, or if they are affecting everyone.

Ma'am put the mushrooms down and back away slowly.

332 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:16pm

re: #248 Noam Sayin'

is/are?

Sorry, GOTC...

What always blows me away is - particularly in this case, because it's just too rich - are the people who have no idea why they're answering the poll, but answer it anyway.

Is.

When a noun clause beginning with "what" is the subject of the sentence, it takes a singular verb.

333 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:20pm

re: #321 Sharmuta

Nope.

nope, my quotes look like a shooting range.

334 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:25pm

You know, I'm not a bad writer. I've earned a living writing letters and promotional materials for a non-profit organization for over 15 years. I've also been interested in politics for a long time. But something has always held me back from trying my hand at writing political columns. I've always known what it was, but Kathleen Parker has really helped me put my finger on it.

It's that, in the pressure of meeting deadlines and trying to say something relevant, and without all the facts at hand, I might write something stupid and have it in print and read by hundreds of thousands, helping to form opinions and reinforce existing opinions, and by the time I rush to my editor with a retraction it will be too late to prevent the worst of the damage.

I simply don't understand what is motivating conservatives to be so negative and discouraging at this stage of the game. We have to go with the ticket we've got. We have to go all out for the next 4 weeks. People and nations have faced worse odds and come out victorious. We must make up our minds that whatever we might think of McCain OR Palin, President Obama is simply not an option.

Please ... if any conservative columnists are reading this, and you feel the imp of the perverse nudging you to write a column criticizing McCain or Palin, kick it the imp the nuts and tell it to go away. You can criticize them all you want AFTER they've beaten Obama.

335 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:41pm

re: #304 Honorary Yooper

Shoot, link went bold. Here's the link: The Real Barack Obama.

336 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:45pm

re: #316 reine.de.tout

Not unless it has a lipstick mouth on it, with "Read My Lipstick" printed over it.

Hm.

LMAO

337 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:45pm

re: #321 Sharmuta

Nope.

Get a scooter.

338 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:27:52pm

re: #322 willowone

the logged out happens to me often, also if i try reload i often end off a website search page, not so much today but often when videos are up, during debates and such.

Yes, it's a lot worse when there are a lot of people logged on and trying to comment.
Well, good to know it's not something wacky with my computer.
I never know - my daughter seems to think she is obligated to click "yes" to everything that pops up. I've got more junk on my computer than I know what to do with.

The good news - I did get my laptop fixed, no charge. She doesn't even know I have the laptop LOL so she won't be touching it.

339 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:28:11pm

re: #304 Honorary Yooper

Should be interesting viewing.

"Yoop" -

Too bad it is Pipes - would Pipes have been smart enough to send a previously unknown surrogate, preferrably with one of his names being Muhammed, Ali, or Tariq.

-S-

340 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:28:18pm

re: #198 LoFlyer

Arrr, Biden wouldn't know what to do with a power saw even if you hit him over the head with it.....

I disagree and think mythbusters should tackle that one... with biden...

341 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:28:32pm

re: #315 TS

OT, kinda, but still in the political realm.
My son told me his high school, a public school, announced that kids could volunteer at the Obama headquarters and for the Obama campaign and earn volunteer hours (they have to do so many every year to graduate). They said nothing about the McCain campaign.

You should raise a fuss. A UMass chaplain got in trouble for the exact same offer - college credit for volunteering for Obama.

342 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:28:40pm

re: #266 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This made me IMMEDIATELY think of you!

343 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:28:42pm

re: #331 lifeofthemind

Ma'am put the mushrooms down and back away slowly.

Aw, do I hafta?

Again entering a realm we don't want our kids to know about.

344 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:29:44pm

re: #330 Allah al Fubar

Heck, I dunno... you have a computer look it up! It was the same child, though.

not even close is that the same little kid, windex that computer screen once in a while.

345 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:29:45pm

re: #334 Tigger2005
heck I'm with you, with all the enemies nipping around them, why should we help them.

346 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:29:50pm

re: #315 TS

OT, kinda, but still in the political realm.
My son told me his high school, a public school, announced that kids could volunteer at the Obama headquarters and for the Obama campaign and earn volunteer hours (they have to do so many every year to graduate). They said nothing about the McCain campaign.

You need to raise hell about that. With the school district and with the election authorities (whoever they may be)...

347 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:29:55pm

re: #334 Tigger2005

i think you are a very good writer and you should pursue the political arena.

348 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:29:58pm

re: #324 lifeofthemind

Raise a stink, get someone fired.

OMG, that's AWFUL.

I also HATE "volunteering" as a graduation requirement. That's involuntary servitude.

349 Idle Drifter  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:30:24pm

re: #235 Born Again Republican

Fox News is reporting on the financial crisis and they are naming names! Obama's ties to Acorn and his job in promoting sub prime loans was revealed. Just started!

The McCain campaign better hammer Obama with a full broadside on every connection, flip-flop, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, ACORN, Saul Alinsky, everything for the next +30 days along with a Get Out Vote Message to all Republican, Independent and Undecided Voters how their vote could mean blocking Trillions of Dollars on Government programs. Programs that have to be paid by the American People as more companies will be pulling up stakes to head out of country because of the tax burden while others just collapse from the strain. More Taxes, Less Jobs.

From the I.D. to the Obamanuts: "GET YOUR OWN DAMN PIE!"

Now I'm off to see American Carol

350 stevieray  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:30:27pm

re: #235 Born Again Republican

Fox News is reporting on the financial crisis and they are naming names! Obama's ties to Acorn and his job in promoting sub prime loans was revealed. Just started!

This is good! See it!

351 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:30:28pm

re: #324 lifeofthemind

Raise a stink, get someone fired.

My son wore a McCain Palin tee shirt to school on Friday and got 3 death threats from Obamaites, pens, pencils, fruit, potato chips, and an apple thrown at him. He did not take the tee shirt off, nor was he asked to do so. He is 13 years old. I am very proud of him. His dad is Obama and I'm McCain. He'll make a great leader someday.

352 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:30:32pm

re: #332 goddessoftheclassroom

Is.

When a noun clause beginning with "what" is the subject of the sentence, it takes a singular verb.

Ha, ha, Perry.

I maintain my recognition of screwing up the statement in the first place.

Goddess, get a scooter.

353 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:30:51pm

re: #338 reine.de.tout
I hear you, i also have children .

354 Rose Parade  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:31:04pm

re: #174 joekowalski247

The local liberal talk radio shows in So. Cal. 'Air America' were inciting people to disrupt the event and "heckle" Sarah Palin at the Home Depot Center today

You stay classy, Liberals!

Seriously, it wouldn't even occur to me to go to one of Obama's rallies and cause trouble. I just wouldn't want to go at all. Ditto stealing Obama/Biden signs or scraping off bumperstickers. It's childish and just reflects badly on the person doing it.

355 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:31:07pm

re: #314 Dr. Shalit

"Arch" -

THE WITS of NIT! I remain honest enough to tell you that if you watched only the first 30 minutes of McCain v. Obama, you might have thought Obama trounced McCain. For what it is worth, before the poll was pulled down, the last I saw on DRUDGE, Gov. Palin was getting 69% winner votes and even AOL was close, favoring Gov. Palin by about 2%. Look at it this way, the wagons have been circled. Hope we "In'jun's have the firepower to blast through this POOP!

-S-

Yaaar, We did it in 2004 and we will do it again in 2008. Hopefully this will be the death knell for American journalism. I saw their best last year as Valedictorian for Emory University, and even the dean looked embarrassed after the speech...

356 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:31:11pm

re: #114 Sharmuta

I think where McCain fails as a conservative, Sarah picks up the slack, and that's why it's she that's getting the scorn, and not McCain. The so-called conservative beltway people are fine with McCain because he's country club even if he's less conservative. They're less comfortable with Sarah because while she's a conservative, she's middle class. Elitism isn't just a phenomenon of the left.

Good point too, Sharm

/back down at the bottom again

357 AceR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:31:16pm

I posted this on the overnight thread, but wanted to post it here where it is more appropriate. I am a first time poster at LGF...and I love this site!

I want to comment about Sarah Palin and the left's derangement on her nomination for VP. As a recovering lib (uber Democrat since 1972, recovery began in 2000), I am not surprised by the left's reaction to her. I recall when Reagan won the election, I thought the world would end because I thought Reagan would destroy all that Carter and Johnson had worked to achieve. My liberal friends and I labeled him Satan, deranged, and senile. Surprisingly, I prospered exceedingly throughout the Reagan years, and I witnessed the tearing down of the Berlin wall and the end of the Soviet Union, but I never gave him props for all he accomplished.

I also remember Bork's nomination to the Supreme Court and how I knew nothing about him, but it didn't stop me or my lib friends from bashing him unmercifully during our coffee breaks at work, because he was nominated by the "enemy". We delighted in Anita Hill's testimony and were vindicated and celebrated when his nomination was withdrawn.

With Palin, I see the very derangement that I possessed for so many years coming from the left. Hordes of reporter/investigators from the main stream media are dispatched to Alaska to dig up dirt on her. Her family is assaulted by the media's hinting at incest, and a mother/daughter coverup with the birth of her baby boy. Magazine publications vilify her and prominently make her cover page with hints about scandals. Low lifes create porn videos and naked paintings because they hate her so much and delight in the ultimate embarassment and debasement of her. And her baby who suffers with Down's is hooted at by the left as a missed opportunity for what abortion really means...elimination of a life that is not worthy...and that Sarah made the wrong "choice".

Even when she kicks Biden's butt in the debate after only 5 weeks on the national scene, she is pooh-poohed by the leftist media as an amateur and a wholly scripted automaton. Then they nod to each other and coo and purr about how Biden won the debate on substance and how Obama was so insightful to pick Biden as his running mate.

They can't fault her accomplishments---they simply diminish them by calling her the mayor of a small town and a mother of 5 who neglects her duties to her children. The hatred on the left is palpable, and I encourage anyone who is still sitting on the fence about the McCain/Palin ticket to take a fresh look at how Obama/Biden has conducted their campaign through the hate-filled main stream media.

I am ashamed that this behavior goes unchecked, and I refuse to subscribe to anymore publications that feed this kind of sickening derangement.

The left can't make her go away, except by trashing her and her family, and hoping that some of the crap they throw at her sticks on election day. I would rather have 1 Palin than a thousand Biden's; 1 McCain than a million Obama's. I thank Sen. McCain for selecting Gov. Palin.

I cringe at what will happen to this country that I love should Obama win the presidency. He will usher in many more liberal judges who will truly undo all our founding fathers worked so hard to achieve in the Constitution. And, executive novice that he is, Obama will be held captive by ultra-left "advisors" like Soros, Ayers, Johnson, and lets not forget Jeremiah Wright and those like him. He will be forced to bend to their will on every issue, whether social, financial, or security related and any hint of bi-partisanship on his part will be quickly slapped down. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Murtha, Obey, Boxer, and the rest will be giddy with their unchecked power. And Hollywood will throw a 4-year party to celebrate their big win. Is this what America wants?

I've volunteered for the McCain/Palin ticket, and I've contributed money to their campaign --- a first for me (I am 57). I hope those who can spare some time or cash in the next few weeks can do the same. Thanks for listening.

358 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:31:32pm

re: #331 lifeofthemind

Ma'am put the mushrooms down and back away slowly.

Shrooms? You have shrooms?

mmmmmmmm shrooms.

/Homer Simpson

359 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:31:35pm

re: #340 anotherindyfilmguy

I disagree and think mythbusters should tackle that one... with biden...

what would that prove other than what is already known, except ruining a perfectly good power saw.

360 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:32:04pm

Saw An American Carol this afternoon. wow, these guys have some guts.
It's 1.5 hours of lampooning everything on the left, Micheal Moore, Islamic terrorists, Rosie O'Donnell, the ACLU, education elites, moonbat protesters, Hollywood, MoveOn.org (in the movie called Moovealong.org)etc. The movie is uneven, and the story is not much. However, it was such a blast to see American values portrayed as good, and a full assault on the lunatic left.

See it! Many good laughs.

361 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:32:08pm

re: #342 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

I read about the loss of your family dog. You and your family are in our family prayers.

362 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:32:41pm

Later Lizards. Would like to stick around and up ding all the great comments, today seems like a really interesting day for discussion here, but I've been busy today helping out my grandma and gettin' ready for my fishing trip tomorrow. Hope no one feels ignored.

Wish me luck!

363 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:33:11pm

re: #361 jorline

{goddess}

I read about the loss of your family dog. You and your family are in our family prayers.

Oh, thank you so much! My boys and I have been grieving together and sharing our memories. It is a great comfort to know that we saved her from worsening pain, but it's so hard to say goodbye.

364 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:33:17pm

re: #328 nyc redneck

is it playing at many theaters?

66th & Brdwy and 14th & 3rd.

365 Richard Romano  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:33:31pm

I understand the desire to be objective, but what she did last week was utterly irresponsible...her criticisms became fodder for the MSM and the left, who treated her piece as representative of conservatives as a whole...the media still holds tremendous swaying power, and she should eat ever last bit of that crow until she grows feathers.

There's a reason why you're a conservative pundit KP -- if you want to be an MSM'er, then I'm sure New York Times will welcome you with open arms.

366 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:33:32pm

re: #357 AceR

thank you for that wonderful post.

367 Opilio  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:33:35pm

re: #176 christheprofessor

He'd still get his Supreme Court nominees passed, and that's the scariest thing to me. Republicans don't have the onions to oppose Dem nominees...

True, but looking at the court demographics, the only almost "sure thing" for replacement in the next 4 years is Stevens. While it would be nice for him to be replaced by a conservative judge, Obama naming his replacement wouldn't change the balance of the court in the near term.

Obama's damage to the judiciary would be far more widespread by his circuit court nominations.

368 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:33:56pm

re: #348 goddessoftheclassroom

It is involuntary servitude.

And you think that affirmative action is a de facto title of nobility (not allowed in the Constitution)? Because, af.a. confers unmerited advantages by accident of birth: sounds like a title to me; certainly it has the corrosive effect to the body politic that the founding fathers were trying to keep out of our country.

I'm just saying.

369 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:34:16pm

Finally, the Phillies DID something. Kind of like the McCain campaign.

370 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:34:20pm

re: #342 goddessoftheclassroom

This made me IMMEDIATELY think of you!

to the human who took that photo

371 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:34:44pm

re: #362 Slumbering Behemoth

Later Lizards. Would like to stick around and up ding all the great comments, today seems like a really interesting day for discussion here, but I've been busy today helping out my grandma and gettin' ready for my fishing trip tomorrow. Hope no one feels ignored.

Wish me luck!

Good luck, SB and have fun.

372 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:35:07pm

re: #341 arethusa

You should raise a fuss. A UMass chaplain got in trouble for the exact same offer - college credit for volunteering for Obama.

I'm sorry I dint have the link but google news ran a story a couple days ago when an 11 year old was suspended from school for wearing a homemade shirt that read "Obama is a terrorist's best friend".

373 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:35:15pm

re: #315 TS

OT, kinda, but still in the political realm.
My son told me his high school, a public school, announced that kids could volunteer at the Obama headquarters and for the Obama campaign and earn volunteer hours (they have to do so many every year to graduate). They said nothing about the McCain campaign.

Compalin to the principal. Tell them that the students should not be given any options. All students must volunteer for Obombly

....teen angst will compel most kids to do the opposite of what they are told.

374 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:35:35pm

re: #370 pre-Boomer Marine brat

to the human who took that photo

I don't know how my picture got there...

375 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:04pm

Sarah let the ambushers courick and gibbonson take their best shots,,avoid them and their ilk from now on in,,way too fraught with potential for venom laden strikes,,

376 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:06pm

re: #367 Opilio

True, but looking at the court demographics, the only almost "sure thing" for replacement in the next 4 years is Stevens. While it would be nice for him to be replaced by a conservative judge, Obama naming his replacement wouldn't change the balance of the court in the near term.

Obama's damage to the judiciary would be far more widespread by his circuit court nominations.

Yes, let's hope Scalia and Thomas take a page out of Stevens's book and hang on till there's a President of their own ideology in office. And this is why retaining as much equity in the Senate as possible is important: limit Obama's choices in judges.

377 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:23pm

i guess i'm getting used to the rogered thread;

378 Perry  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:34pm

re: #362 Slumbering Behemoth

[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]

Hope you catch a bunch.

379 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:39pm

re: #334 Tigger2005

Too many hard-core conservatives are waiting for the second coming of Ronald Reagan and will never quit doing so. I think Charles Krauthammer is in this category, as well as a couple others at NRO.

CK is losing my respect more and more every time he damns Sarah Palin with faint praise on Brit Hume's show. It's making him look like he's a DC elitist, albeit a conservative one.

While I don't listen to him often, Rush has won my respect by pulling himself together and strongly supporting McCain/Palin, even though he disagrees most vociferously with many of Mac's stances.

I've mentioned this several times, but I read quite a lot at the Hillary Clinton Forum, and one thread was asking why conservatives have seemingly given up on beating Obama. One poster remarked, "Why does it seem that republicans always start to eat their own in the home stretch?"

A good question, I think.

380 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:48pm

re: #357 AceR

Fabulous first post. Thank you.

381 Mike Nargizian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:52pm

Thought a few of the saddest and latest version of lgfers [who are doing a disservice to the Intelligence Quotient of this site] that were engaging in some self-congratulatory group think idiocy last night should go forth and read confirm what fools they are...
Where have you gone Zulu Baby?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

or just read the last 3 comments at - Biden's Lies, Ignored by Media

382 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:36:56pm

re: #357 AceR

I also remember Bork's nomination to the Supreme Court and how I knew nothing about him, but it didn't stop me or my lib friends from bashing him unmercifully during our coffee breaks at work, because he was nominated by the "enemy". We delighted in Anita Hill's testimony and were vindicated and celebrated when his nomination was withdrawn.

Anita Hill testified against Clarence Thomas, not Bork (unless she did a two-fer!)...

383 wright1  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:37:04pm

So, the battle has finally begun. McCain has recognized that the battlefield has changed. Governor Palin has been promoted to handle this war, much in the same way Petraeus was; She is a young general but she has good instincts. Attacking Obama on his associations is a strategy that was delayed too long. But, she will carry it out with ease because she has credibility. She is a proud American.

BHOis entirely vulnerable on Ayers. Time to smoke him out. Hannity is doing another installment this weekend on this subject to dovetail the "weak" piece in the Times but to support Governor Palin's comment.

Next, take on Wright, the Million an March sponsored by an anti-semite, and then let us look at BHO's book which is a play book for Socialism.

Finally, McCain has seen the light. Sarah Baracuda has been woefully underestimated - their mistake. Lets get to work.

(Lastly, I saw this You tube on the Fannie Mae associations of BHO, Governor Palin should hit that one hard).

Youtube Video

384 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:37:15pm

re: #254 jorline

We have real problems when Obama becomes French fashion.

Comes complete with flip-flop gloves.

Talk about defacing a beautiful woman.

385 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:37:48pm

re: #356 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're tops in my book, Pre-B.

386 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:02pm

re: #357 AceR

Thank you... and a whole-hearted welcome to LGF.

387 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:06pm

Hooray for Stinky!

388 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:07pm

re: #357 AceR

Yaaar, Mate you just became an honorary pirate with that one. 'Me hats off to 'ye!

389 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:22pm

re: #332 goddessoftheclassroom

When a noun clause beginning with "what" is the subject of the sentence, it takes a singular verb.

How about a non clause beginning with "Yarrrrr"? Should it take a yardarm?

/wondering if a certain someone will see this

390 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:26pm

re: #351 Allah al Fubar

His dad is Obama and I'm McCain.

So you are the man of the house?
/ducks and runs

391 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:30pm

re: #357 AceR

Welcome to LGF then. Thanks for the post.

392 willowone  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:32pm

re: #357 AceR

Nicely done, that was the nicest first post i've ever seen, (but i'm new to this). good luck in here ,and evening. and i share some of your history, i became a Republican after 9-11.

393 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:32pm

re: #357 AceR

Ace, thank you for that. You're older than I am but we share the same experience. When Reagan was running I was 18 and I voted for him so we have a bit of a difference.

Our Country needs experience, leadership, transparency and tenacity. I voted for Clinton in the 90's, and if anyone remembers McCain running in the primaries in the 90's you'll know that he's the same man. Honest. Forthright. A Patriot, Veteran, straight talking, straight walking, upright man of his word. Way back when, he ran on the "straight talk express". Unlike his opponent. Who runs on Pee-Diddy.

394 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:33pm

re: #375 Gorgon Zola

Sarah let the ambushers courick and gibbonson take their best shots,,avoid them and their ilk from now on in,,way too fraught with potential for venom laden strikes,,

i couldn't agree more.
sarah needs to avoid the treacherous msm like the plague.
they are only out to do her harm.
fck those bastards.

395 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:35pm

re: #256 x-wing

No, it was a girl. Looked like she had toilet paper in her hair. I just can't remember her name.

I think her name was Farina.

396 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:44pm

re: #357 AceR

Great fifth post, and welcome to the world of sanity. It must have been tough to finally break from a life-long adherence to liberalism, but don't dismay. It is not liberalism from which you break free, but the gradual take-over of American liberalism by socialist doctrine.

I'd like to think, if JFK were alive today, he'd punch Barack Hussein Obama right in the nuts.

397 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:46pm

re: #373 DeafDog

Compalin to the principal. Tell them that the students should not be given any options. All students must volunteer for Obombly

....teen angst will compel most kids to do the opposite of what they are told.

No way in hell are you going to school today and learn!
will that work?

398 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:38:53pm

re: #367 Opilio

True, but looking at the court demographics, the only almost "sure thing" for replacement in the next 4 years is Stevens. While it would be nice for him to be replaced by a conservative judge, Obama naming his replacement wouldn't change the balance of the court in the near term.

Obama's damage to the judiciary would be far more widespread by his circuit court nominations.

Yes, good point. Not being an attorney, I don't think in the broader terms...

399 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:39:14pm

re: #348 goddessoftheclassroom

OMG, that's AWFUL.

I also HATE "volunteering" as a graduation requirement. That's involuntary servitude.

goddess -

Enforced "voluntarism" is indeed SLAVERY by another name.

-S-

400 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:39:16pm

re: #382 christheprofessor

Anita Hill testified against Clarence Thomas, not Bork (unless she did a two-fer!)...

Chris, I think he's refering to Bork and then Thomas. It made sense to me.

401 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:39:17pm

re: #363 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, thank you so much! My boys and I have been grieving together and sharing our memories. It is a great comfort to know that we saved her from worsening pain, but it's so hard to say goodbye.

I hadn't heard.
My thoughts are with you closely.

402 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:39:42pm

re: #357 AceR

Great post, AceR.

I came of age hating Carter, and proudly cast my first vote for Reagan's re-election in '84, but after voting for Bush I, I took a swing toward the Left ... and voted Democrat in 4 straight Presidential elections. It wasn't until partly into Bush II's second term that I saw the light again.

Johnson wasn't a bad guy ... at least he was a real American. Carter was horrible, and Obama is Carter X10.

403 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:39:58pm

re: #373 DeafDog

Compalin to the principal. Tell them that the students should not be given any options. All students must volunteer for Obombly

....teen angst will compel most kids to do the opposite of what they are told.

I reassured my son that if the big O is elected and they try to force him into Obama Community Servitude, that he will be withdrawn from public school.

404 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:40:32pm

is the Hannity rip on obama to be on radio or cable tv sunday?

405 Charles  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:40:50pm

re: #298 ibmkeyboard

the thread is wacky

It's because you completely screwed up the links you posted. Please use the Preview function.

406 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:41:00pm

re: #374 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't know how my picture got there...

Was that martini made with Bailey's?

407 wolfie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:41:08pm

re: #357 AceR

Keep posting, Acer!

What made you see the light? Was it a gradual thing?
Any key moments?

408 wright1  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:41:24pm

re: #357 AceR

Welcome. You know when I read that it makes me wonder why others on your former side cannot grasp your epiphany.

409 Max Darkside  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:41:46pm

The master lizard speaks

/bows on one knee in awe

410 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:41:47pm

CNN - liars, unprofessional, in the tank:

CNN lies about NRO - to cover for Obama's relationship with Ayers.

411 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:42:05pm

re: #389 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How about a non clause beginning with "Yarrrrr"? Should it take a yardarm?

/wondering if a certain someone will see this

Haaar, I am a pirate, not an English professor! Stand and deliver!
/or words to the effect....

412 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:42:20pm

re: #404 Gorgon Zola

Great Nic & avatar there.

413 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:42:27pm

re: #357 AceR

Wonderful Wonderful post ! hooray!

414 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:42:31pm

re: #401 pre-Boomer Marine brat

{pre-Boomer Marine brat}

Thank you. It was very sudden--she was fine until Thursday afternoon. I took her to the vet before 8 AM Friday morning, and the vet discovered two masses in her abdomen. The vet kept her comfortable throughout the day, and stayed opened past 4 so that my boys, my mom, and I could say goodbye.

She didn't suffer, she was unwell a very short time, and we got to say goodbye. We were very blessed.

415 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:42:58pm

re: #385 Sharmuta

You're tops in my book, Pre-B.

I do NOT deserve that.

Thank you, anyway.
*un-manly blush*

416 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:43:04pm

re: #390 lifeofthemind

So you are the man of the house?
/ducks and runs

No, I'm divorced from his dad and am the leader of my own home, thank you for asking.

417 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:43:40pm

re: #387 Sharmuta

Hooray for Stinky!

Whot happened?

418 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:43:51pm

re: #411 LoFlyer

Haaar, I am a pirate, not an English professor! Stand and deliver!
/or words to the effect....

Highwaymen said, "Stand and deliver." Are you double-dipping in rogue stereotypes?

419 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:13pm

re: #396 Noam Sayin'


I'd like to think, if JFK were alive today, he'd punch Barack Hussein Obama right in the nuts.

I love you Noam.

420 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:21pm
421 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:21pm

re: #417 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Whot happened?

Apparently the thread was de-rogered for some commentors. I never noticed it, but then again, I have IE.

422 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:28pm

re: #394 nyc redneck

Sarah showed up,,she can't be accused of dodging them,,

423 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:31pm

re: #384 Archimedes

Talk about defacing a beautiful woman.

Archimedes-

Saw the picture, looked at the yellow dressed woman, would not want to associate with her unless I were her Drug Dealer, and then on an "In G-d We Trust, All Others Pay Cash" basis.

-S-

424 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:34pm

re: #417 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The thread was rogered.

425 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:44:56pm

re: #416 Allah al Fubar

No, I'm divorced from his dad and am the leader of my own home, thank you for asking.

{Allah al Fuba}

My EH became more and more left-leaning as his mid-life crisis spiraled out of control.

426 mama winger  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:00pm

re: #414 goddessoftheclassroom

been thinkin of ya all day

427 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:19pm

re: #381 Mike Nargizian

Oh good grief - you again?

428 Geepers  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:23pm

AceR (#357),

Well said.

Welcome aboard.

429 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:30pm

re: #405 Charles

It's because you completely screwed up the links you posted. Please use the Preview function.

Charles -

P.I.M.F?

-S-

430 arethusa  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:38pm

OT: Deaf Republicans has a closed-captioned version of the "I'm Voting Democrat" ad, if you know anyone who would appreciate it.

431 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:42pm

re: #411 LoFlyer

Haaar, I am a pirate, not an English professor! Stand and deliver!
/or words to the effect....

*cutlass clenched in teeth, swings to the deck of the opposing ship*

432 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:42pm

good Evening Lizards!
What's up this fine evening?

433 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:49pm

re: #400 Honorary Yooper

Chris, I think he's refering to Bork and then Thomas. It made sense to me.

No, he started the paragraph with Bork, then referred to Hill's testimony, and the rejoicing when the nomination was withdrawn (Bork's was, Thomas's wasn't)....

/All that said, it was a great post, AceR, notwithstanding!

434 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:52pm

I don't wish to offend any alumni, but you know it's a strange year when these schools are in the top 25...lol

1. Oklahoma (43) 4-0 1,599
2. Alabama (21) 5-0 1,565
3. LSU 4-0 1,466
4. Missouri (1) 4-0 1,453
5. Texas 4-0 1,362
6. Penn State 5-0 1,252
7. Texas Tech 4-0 1,105
8. Brigham Young 4-0 1,098
9. USC 2-1 1,087
10. South Florida 5-0 1,035
11. Georgia 4-1 1,018
12. Florida 3-1 914
13. Auburn 4-1 860
14. Ohio State 4-1 829
15. Utah 5-0 713
16. Kansas 3-1 650
17. Boise State 3-0 549
18. Wisconsin 3-1 520
19. Vanderbilt 4-0 459
20. Virginia Tech 4-1 290
21. Oklahoma State 4-0 277
22. Fresno State 3-1 232
23. Oregon 4-1 199
24. Connecticut 5-0 126
25. Wake Forest 3-1 107

My Aggies are MIA this year :(

435 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:54pm

re: #414 goddessoftheclassroom

{Goddess} I am so very sorry to hear about your dear dog. Take care.

436 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:45:57pm

CNN totally lies. It's unreal how ridiculous our media has become.

[Link: www.pajamasmedia.com...]

CNN is saying that NRO debunked Sarah's claim that Obama has ties to Ayers.
The opposite is true.

437 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:46:36pm

re: #382 christheprofessor

Anita Hill testified against Clarence Thomas, not Bork (unless she did a two-fer!)...

And that was one of the items that set me thinking about the Dems:
"Who are these guys?" During Hill's testimony I kept thinking "This is all the Dems have?" The whole interrogation process seemed so low and dirty, I was embarrassed for the country.

438 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:00pm

re: #425 goddessoftheclassroom

{Allah al Fuba}

My EH became more and more left-leaning as his mid-life crisis spiraled out of control.

goddess -

He thought that was the way to attract younger women - bad move.

-S-

439 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:23pm

re: #298 ibmkeyboard

the thread is wacky

It's the keyboard.

440 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:31pm

re: #414 goddessoftheclassroom

{pre-Boomer Marine brat}

Thank you. It was very sudden--she was fine until Thursday afternoon. I took her to the vet before 8 AM Friday morning, and the vet discovered two masses in her abdomen. The vet kept her comfortable throughout the day, and stayed opened past 4 so that my boys, my mom, and I could say goodbye.

She didn't suffer, she was unwell a very short time, and we got to say goodbye. We were very blessed.

Had to have a dog put down somewhat suddenly, like that. Had to have another one put down after a long period of decline. That was perhaps the worst. Don't want to dwell on it.

441 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:36pm

re: #395 SnakeSpit

I think her name was Farina.

I went snooping around and ,it says her name was buckwheat too. I just thought it was something else.

442 AceR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:41pm

re: #382 christheprofessor

My bad! Since my post was too long, I had to edit and I took out the reference to Clarence Thomas, but I guess I didn't do such a good job of cleaning up the rest of my comments.

443 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:48pm

re: #423 Dr. Shalit

Archimedes-

Saw the picture, looked at the yellow dressed woman, would not want to associate with her unless I were her Drug Dealer, and then on an "In G-d We Trust, All Others Pay Cash" basis.

-S-

She's a model, which means the garb is set up to look that way from head to toe. I think that's what you're referring to.

444 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:47:54pm

re: #435 Pvt Bin Jammin

{Goddess} I am so very sorry to hear about your dear dog. Take care.

{Pvt Bin Jammin}

Thank you. We're doing okay. I did cry a lot, but mostly because of the memories of so many things that have changed in the 10 years we had her.

445 wright1  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:48:07pm

re: #419 mama winger

I love you Noam.

Speaking of Kennedy, I say "American Carol" today. My review: Way, way, way over the top. Preaching to the choir with me. Excoriates Michael Moore. A bit jingoistic. But for those who are unaware of the "Hate America" crowd and what they are doing to destroy this country - it will be good for those with mush between their ears to see this. BTW- Kennedy plays a ghost who is not a fan of MM

446 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:48:09pm

re: #357 AceR

Welcome to LGF. Lots of here are recovering Democrats.

P.S. Anita Hill was against Clarence Thomas not Bork. But both hearings were equally despicable so point taken.
;)

447 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:48:21pm

re: #432 HoosierHoops

good Evening Lizards!
What's up this fine evening?

Hey, Hoopster. How the party last night?

448 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:48:22pm

re: #414 goddessoftheclassroom

I am so sorry to hear that! You are all in my thoughts...

449 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:48:42pm

re: #357 AceR

Excellent post! Welcome to LGF.

450 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:48:44pm

re: #436 FrogMarch

CNN totally lies. It's unreal how ridiculous our media has become.

[Link: www.pajamasmedia.com...]

CNN is saying that NRO debunked Sarah's claim that Obama has ties to Ayers.
The opposite is true.

look like we'll need nothing less than wedding photos of those two to prove the point to MSN

451 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:49:03pm

re: #418 goddessoftheclassroom

Highwaymen said, "Stand and deliver." Are you double-dipping in rogue stereotypes?

Whoa Goddess, 'me beauty, it looks like you caught 'me in a historical blunder! Retreat!
/I only thought pirates had to be silly and courageous! Now you expect me to be accurate! Yaaaar!

452 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:49:11pm

re: #438 Dr. Shalit

goddess -

He thought that was the way to attract younger women - bad move.

-S-

Right on both counts!

453 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:49:53pm

What CNN won't report

454 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:49:56pm

re: #357 AceR

*salute*
Welcome
I'm personally glad that you're here.

455 Outrider  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:50:48pm

re: #247 arethusa

I know lots of smart liberals, but I've never met one who thinks logically. Has anyone?

If they could-they wouldn't be liberals. Critical thinking and all that.

456 DesertSage  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:50:52pm

Has anyone else see this?

Federal probe into S.F. sanctuary city policy

It's about time.

457 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:50:52pm

re: #418 goddessoftheclassroom

Highwaymen said, "Stand and deliver." Are you double-dipping in rogue stereotypes?

Good candidate for most mood killing thing to say in a moment of passion "No no you are doing it wrong, surely you have that backwards?" Maybe it runs close second to "Did you take out the trash?"

458 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:05pm

re: #444 goddessoftheclassroom

It's been two years since we lost a very beloved little dog, Shamus. I still tear up once in awhile when remembering him. He was such a fun little guy.

459 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:05pm

re: #425 goddessoftheclassroom

{Allah al Fuba}

My EH became more and more left-leaning as his mid-life crisis spiraled out of control.

i could never be w/ a lib guy. in fact, i've had such an awakening in the last few yrs., that if my husband was a lib, i'd divorce him. right now.
lol. i mean it.

460 wolfie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:17pm

re: #425 goddessoftheclassroom

{Allah al Fuba}

My EH became more and more left-leaning as his mid-life crisis spiraled out of control.

That is interesting.
Mr. Wolf has a brother who was an arch-conservative. Had a (cough...cough) midlife crisis with a cute young ditz. Started moving left and w/in a few years has become a full-fledged moonbat.
Interesting indeed.

461 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:22pm

re: #424 Sharmuta

The thread was rogered.

roger that

/sorry, just could NOT resist

462 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:22pm

re: #434 jorline

Go Hokies!('79)

463 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:27pm

re: #277 SnakeSpit

I think it's kinda like when I miss a little when I'm taking a piss, and spray the toilet lid.

This work for me and it's the TRUTH.

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464 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:51:51pm

re: #450 joekowalski247

look like we'll need nothing less than wedding photos of those two to prove the point to MSN

Even then they'll claim the photos were photoshopped. Convincing the MSM of it is harder than pulling hen's teeth.

465 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:52:34pm

re: #457 lifeofthemind

Good candidate for most mood killing thing to say in a moment of passion "No no you are doing it wrong, surely you have that backwards?" Maybe it runs close second to "Did you take out the trash?"

ROTFL! I can barely type for giggling...

466 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:03pm

re: #434 jorline

Hey! Vandy's my team, and they're currently one point ahead of Auburn in the last five minutes of the game. If they can hold on, they'll be undefeated.

Not bad for a bunch of smart boys.

467 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:03pm

re: #456 DesertSage

Has anyone else see this?

Federal probe into S.F. sanctuary city policy

It's about time.

Wow. San Francisco, no less.

468 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:22pm

re: #453 FrogMarch

What CNN won't report

The CAC's agenda flowed from Mr. Ayers's educational philosophy, which called for infusing students and their parents with a radical political commitment, and which downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism. In the mid-1960s, Mr. Ayers taught at a radical alternative school, and served as a community organizer in Cleveland's ghetto.

In works like "City Kids, City Teachers" and "Teaching the Personal and the Political," Mr. Ayers wrote that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression. His preferred alternative? "I'm a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist," Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk's, "Sixties Radicals," at about the same time Mr. Ayers was forming CAC.

Excellent post, FrogMarch...thanks.

469 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:24pm

re: #425 goddessoftheclassroom

{Allah al Fuba}

My EH became more and more left-leaning as his mid-life crisis spiraled out of control.

{Goddess} So has mine, but we remain the best of friends. That's the most important thing. It's all about the boy.

/Still can't figure out why he's into NASCAR but what the hey.

470 exredtory  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:27pm

re: #168 Intrepid

Newest Palin scandal...

This one's going to hurt.

heh

Candygate!

471 HoosierHoops  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:29pm

re: #447 jorline

Hey, Hoopster. How the party last night?


Pretty Fun Jorline...Crazy friends! LOL
You know what this thread reminds me of?
People that give up before the game is over..gloom and doom.. some in the GOP thought we ought to dump sarah EVEN before the debate...
There is a 4th quarter people! :)
what are you doing tonight Jorline?

472 hbwriter  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:29pm

I saw Palin today in Carson--amazing event--14,00+ plus people--Jon Voight, etc. She rocked the house--she was sturdy, funny, tough--look out--they do not (or cannot) measure what she is doing--it will be evident in November--she is a monstrous force. I LOVE HER

473 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:33pm

re: #460 wolfie

That is interesting.
Mr. Wolf has a brother who was an arch-conservative. Had a (cough...cough) midlife crisis with a cute young ditz. Started moving left and w/in a few years has become a full-fledged moonbat.
Interesting indeed.

My theory (based only on my personal experience) is that the left is attractive to those wishing for control without responsibility.

474 wright1  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:36pm

re: #450 joekowalski247

look like we'll need nothing less than wedding photos of those two to prove the point to MSN

Apparently Campbell Brown is claiming O'Reilly and Olbermann are qually partisan - Now O'Reilly may be a blustering overwrought windbag but he is NOT Olbermann - nice try. But, that is CNN for ya.

475 hbwriter  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:53:50pm

--make that 14,000+ people :)

476 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:17pm

re: #211 seekeroftruth

Sorry if this has already been posted:
Rasmussen has the VP debate as Biden 45% - Palin 37%

but look at the first question:

They are including the 8% who didn't watch the debate and the 1% who have no idea.

What kind of a poll is that? wtf!

477 DeafDog  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:24pm

re: #397 joekowalski247

No way in hell are you going to school today and learn!
will that work?

Give it a try....but only if all else fails

478 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:31pm

re: #465 goddessoftheclassroom

ROTFL! I can barely type for giggling...

GASP!
How does someone with an avatar like yours KNOW about such things?!?!

479 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:41pm

re: #461 pre-Boomer Marine brat

roger that

/sorry, just could NOT resist

10-4, good buddy.

/Shameless date joke.

480 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:53pm

re: #436 FrogMarch

CNN totally lies. It's unreal how ridiculous our media has become.

[Link: www.pajamasmedia.com...]

CNN is saying that NRO debunked Sarah's claim that Obama has ties to Ayers.
The opposite is true.

Frog -

Of course - CNN the WRONG - WAY CORRIGAN of the News Business. After all, what is a "Reciprocal Bearing" among friends?

-S-

481 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:54:57pm

re: #469 Allah al Fubar

{Goddess} So has mine, but we remain the best of friends. That's the most important thing. It's all about the boy.

/Still can't figure out why he's into NASCAR but what the hey.

I'm very glad for you. Sadly, in my situation, that is not the case.

482 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:03pm

re: #456 DesertSage

Has anyone else see this?

Federal probe into S.F. sanctuary city policy

It's about time.

Wow! Someone finally grew some huevos.

May wonders never cease.

483 Outrider  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:09pm

re: #256 x-wing

No, it was a girl. Looked like she had toilet paper in her hair. I just can't remember her name.

Darla?

484 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:26pm

re: #456 DesertSage

Has anyone else see this?

Federal probe into S.F. sanctuary city policy

It's about time.

a local radio host on 'KRLA' am 870 Kevin James has been reporting on this for months, it took a wrongful death lawsuit to finally get the nations attention

485 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:32pm

re: #437 solomonpanting

And that was one of the items that set me thinking about the Dems:
"Who are these guys?" During Hill's testimony I kept thinking "This is all the Dems have?" The whole interrogation process seemed so low and dirty, I was embarrassed for the country.

Yes, it was depraved and sickening. They took what was an almost sacred historical process and mocked it (at least the Bork thing was supposedly on principle) -- sort of set the stage for Slick Willie's escapades in the White House in the next few years...

/recognizing the Kennedy coverups from before...

486 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:48pm

re: #478 pre-Boomer Marine brat

GASP!
How does someone with an avatar like yours KNOW about such things?!?!

Imagination!

MWAH!

487 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:55:52pm

re: #466 Intrepid

Hey! Vandy's my team, and they're currently one point ahead of Auburn in the last five minutes of the game. If they can hold on, they'll be undefeated.

Not bad for a bunch of smart boys.

I agree, Intrepid. I'm watching the game now.

Personally, I like it when the smart guys win...go McCain/Palin

488 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:06pm

re: #418 goddessoftheclassroom

Highwaymen said, "Stand and deliver." Are you double-dipping in rogue stereotypes?

No m'am, I do not believe that was the origin, but a command to troops, not to retreat, but to stand under attack and deliver counterfire.

Let us Google, ... aha, I see the bad meme is out there, that it was a highwayman's phrase. Nope. Think about the movie, about Jaime Escalante, what sense would it make, if the kids were being taught to steal?

489 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:15pm

re: #443 Archimedes

She's a model, which means the garb is set up to look that way from head to toe. I think that's what you're referring to.

Archimedes -

Pretty much - AND - look at her face. That is all.

-S-

490 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:32pm

re: #168 Intrepid

Newest Palin scandal...

This one's going to hurt.

heh

LMAO!

491 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:49pm

re: #453 FrogMarch

What CNN won't report

Arrrr! Notice that Ayers was in charge of the "collaborative", strikingly similar to "collective". This is not a joke. If we do not beat Obama this year we will see Orwellian propaganda and a push for a new constitution by the Marxists.
/calling a spade a spade!

492 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:56:56pm

re: #442 AceR

My bad! Since my post was too long, I had to edit and I took out the reference to Clarence Thomas, but I guess I didn't do such a good job of cleaning up the rest of my comments.

A minor glitch in an otherwise fantabulous post! We'll let you live --- this time... ;)

493 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:57:10pm

re: #438 Dr. Shalit

goddess -

He thought that was the way to attract younger women - bad move.

-S-

494 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:57:18pm

re: #486 goddessoftheclassroom

Imagination!

MWAH!

Oh ... well ... okay
/deciding that this just MIGHT be best left alone

MWAH!

495 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:57:19pm

re: #472 hbwriter

Voight's become frequent interviewee on Mark Levin,,astute guy

496 wolfie  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:04pm

re: #473 goddessoftheclassroom

My theory (based only on my personal experience) is that the left is attractive to those wishing for control without responsibility.

Indeed. The leftists' celebration of feelings, as opposed to consideration of others or of external standards, can also be (ahem) comforting to those who might otherwise have an itchy conscience.

497 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:11pm

re: #472 hbwriter

I saw Palin today in Carson--amazing event--14,00+ plus people--Jon Voight, etc. She rocked the house--she was sturdy, funny, tough--look out--they do not (or cannot) measure what she is doing--it will be evident in November--she is a monstrous force. I LOVE HER

any hecklers present? 'Air America' was telling listeners to participate in disrupting the event!

498 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:21pm

re: #488 itellu3times

No m'am, I do not believe that was the origin, but a command to troops, not to retreat, but to stand under attack and deliver counterfire.

Let us Google, ... aha, I see the bad meme is out there, that it was a highwayman's phrase. Nope. Think about the movie, about Jaime Escalante, what sense would it make, if the kids were being taught to steal?

Highwaymen said that to their victims, as in "Stand still and deliver your valuables." I think Escalante gave that phrase its modern, positive connotation.

499 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:22pm

re: #341 arethusa

You should raise a fuss. A UMass chaplain got in trouble for the exact same offer - college credit for volunteering for Obama.

I got extra credit for working for a local poll in High school also, I had worked on so many campaigns prior that I did not work for the guy I wrote the paper and got an A+. easiest grade I ever got.

500 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:34pm

re: #481 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm very glad for you. Sadly, in my situation, that is not the case.

{Hugs}

501 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:58:38pm

re: #296 Allah al Fubar

OMG LMAO!

You owe me a keyboard and windex for my monitor. LMAO

Yeah, that happens a lot since last year I got my dickeydoo award. That's the award you get when your belly sticks out further than your dickeydoo.

502 Outrider  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:59:01pm

re: #289 Ojoe

Ahem::
Here they both are.

I recall a one liner she tossed out saying, "it takes a lot of money to look this cheap". ;-)> Great entertainer.

503 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:59:18pm

re: #497 joekowalski247

any hecklers present? 'Air America' was telling listeners to participate in disrupting the event!

Local news showed some protester, one smug, smarmy young man who wanted "to ask her the hard questions, about Iraq and the economy, she wouldn't answer at the debate."

504 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:59:31pm

re: #491 LoFlyer

Arrrr! Notice that Ayers was in charge of the "collaborative", strikingly similar to "collective". This is not a joke. If we do not beat Obama this year we will see Orwellian propaganda and a push for a new constitution by the Marxists.
/calling a spade a spade!

Lo -

With those "Agricultural Tools" - CALL THEM SHOVELS!

-S-

505 DistantThunder  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:59:39pm

re: #434 jorline

I don't wish to offend any alumni, but you know it's a strange year when these schools are in the top 25...lol

1. Oklahoma (43) 4-0 1,599
2. Alabama (21) 5-0 1,565
3. LSU 4-0 1,466
4. Missouri (1) 4-0 1,453
5. Texas 4-0 1,362
6. Penn State 5-0 1,252
7. Texas Tech 4-0 1,105
8. Brigham Young 4-0 1,098
9. USC 2-1 1,087
10. South Florida 5-0 1,035
11. Georgia 4-1 1,018
12. Florida 3-1 914
13. Auburn 4-1 860
14. Ohio State 4-1 829
15. Utah 5-0 713
16. Kansas 3-1 650
17. Boise State 3-0 549
18. Wisconsin 3-1 520
19. Vanderbilt 4-0 459
20. Virginia Tech 4-1 290
21. Oklahoma State 4-0 277
22. Fresno State 3-1 232
23. Oregon 4-1 199
24. Connecticut 5-0 126
25. Wake Forest 3-1 107

My Aggies are MIA this year :(

BYU = my alma mater

506 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 5:59:51pm

re: #446 Irene NYC

Welcome to LGF. Lots of here are recovering Democrats.

P.S. Anita Hill was against Clarence Thomas not Bork. But both hearings were equally despicable so point taken.
;)

Some one should make and ad "Before anyone heard of Swift Boats there was Borking." Biden said he had changed his opinion on one thing, when Mike Mansfield (famous for his Ode to a flower in the Congressional Record) chastised him for being personal in attacking Jesse Helms. Biden then proceeds to boast about his initiating the politics of personal destruction in his admittedly ideological assault on Robert Bork.

507 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:02pm

re: #501 SnakeSpit

Yeah, that happens a lot since last year I got my dickeydoo award. That's the award you get when your belly sticks out further than your dickeydoo.

Gasp!

508 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:09pm

re: #458 Pvt Bin Jammin

It's been two years since we lost a very beloved little dog, Shamus. I still tear up once in awhile when remembering him. He was such a fun little guy.

It was a year ago this past Wednesday that I lost the Best Dog in the World™... Still miss her terribly...

/click my avatar for a pic

509 LoFlyer  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:10pm

Gotta run mates! Catch ya on the flip side!

510 wright1  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:13pm

re: #468 jorline

Excellent post, FrogMarch...thanks.

Moreover, on 9/11/01 (his bad luck I supose) his book comes out stating he he does not regret his bombings (killing a cop) - and wishes he did more. Now it is a plain fact that BHO and WA sat at meeting(s) for the WOODS Foundation and in fact lived quite close and were at each others' house, not to mention other ties, such as, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, that even the NYT cannot deny.

511 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:00:20pm

re: #496 wolfie

Indeed. The leftists' celebration of feelings, as opposed to consideration of others or of external standards, can also be (ahem) comforting to those who might otherwise have an itchy conscience.

BINGO!

As a matter of fact, my EH kept saying, "I can't help how I feel."

Our counselor (I was determined to save our marriage, even forgiving infidelity) said, "Marriage isn't about feelings; it's about commitment."

He wasn't buying any of that.

512 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:01:31pm

re: #471 HoosierHoops

Pretty Fun Jorline...Crazy friends! LOL
You know what this thread reminds me of?
People that give up before the game is over..gloom and doom.. some in the GOP thought we ought to dump sarah EVEN before the debate...
There is a 4th quarter people! :)
what are you doing tonight Jorline?

I agree, HH. I'm kicking back and relaxing tonight. My wife is doing an overnight on the USS Lexington tonight with her Girl Scout Troop. She's been their leader for the last five years and we had a pinning ceremony earlier today for the girls aboard the USS Lexington...plus two baseball games. Great day!

513 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:01:35pm

re: #419 mama winger

I love you too, mama winger.

{mama}

*swat*

;)

514 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:02:09pm

re: #508 christheprofessor

{christheprofessor}

I remember that difficult time.

515 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:02:40pm

re: #503 itellu3times

Local news showed some protester, one smug, smarmy young man who wanted "to ask her the hard questions, about Iraq and the economy, she wouldn't answer at the debate."

That guy and myself are probably the only two people in California that listen to Air America. (insert sound of Pacman dying)

516 Beach Lover  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:02:45pm

Good evening lizards...just in case you want to watch it again, the debate is on Fox right now. I might enjoy it better this time. I was a nervous wreck this last time!

517 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:02:46pm

re: #508 christheprofessor

It was a year ago this past Wednesday that I lost the Best Dog in the World™... Still miss her terribly...

/click my avatar for a pic

{Chris} So sorry... I'm a mommy to 3 boys. One human, two canine. Sorry for your loss, and for Goddess' loss as well.

518 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:03:15pm

re: #511 goddessoftheclassroom

At what age does a man have a mid-life crisis? I think I missed out.

519 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:03:27pm

re: #464 Honorary Yooper

Even then they'll claim the photos were photoshopped. Convincing the MSM of it is harder than pulling hen's teeth.


Au contraire mon frere, photo shop is what they believe in and print, reality is what they doubt.

520 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:03:56pm

re: #491 LoFlyer

Arrrr! Notice that Ayers was in charge of the "collaborative", strikingly similar to "collective". This is not a joke. If we do not beat Obama this year we will see Orwellian propaganda and a push for a new constitution by the Marxists.
/calling a spade a spade!

yep. What Palin and McCain need to do is not just refer to Ayres as a "terrorist" -but use Ayres own words to describe the man who picked Obama for his cause.

"I'm a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist," Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk's, "Sixties Radicals,"

521 carray  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:04:36pm

I don't see that Parker apologized or is eating any crow. She's being snarky, and I told her so. Here's what I sent her:

Kathleen:

You have definitely lost this reader for good. Your piece today tells me that you have not even taken time to do research on Governor Palin. Start with this: [Link: baseballcrank.com...] If you think Obama or Beiden can be in the same league with this woman, you need your head examined.

Your article is so snarky and so full of Democrat and MSM perspectives on Palin that it's incredible. I guess it means you've become part of the after-dinner, white wine "conservative" crowd now.

Anyway, after reading you for many a year, it's time to say goodbye. I'd not have put you on the refuse bin had you even attempted a fair assessment of Gov. Palin's record. Your error was that you based two damaging articles (that will be quoted by the MSM and Democrats and used against Gov. Palin) on the MSM-filtered and heavily-edited view of her and topped it with your own snarkiness and condescension because conservative readership called you out on it.

That's why you lost me. You think you're too big to do your own research and say you're wrong.

522 joekowalski247  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:04:40pm

re: #506 lifeofthemind

Some one should make and ad "Before anyone heard of Swift Boats there was Borking." Biden said he had changed his opinion on one thing, when Mike Mansfield (famous for his Ode to a flower in the Congressional Record) chastised him for being personal in attacking Jesse Helms. Biden then proceeds to boast about his initiating the politics of personal destruction in his admittedly ideological assault on Robert Bork.

"Borking" is Trademarked, be carefull wear you step or yoll get sued

523 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:05:38pm

re: #468 jorline

Excellent post, FrogMarch...thanks.

Sure!

CNN isn't interested in the truth.

524 Beach Lover  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:06:51pm

re: #508 christheprofessor

It was a year ago this past Wednesday that I lost the Best Dog in the World™... Still miss her terribly...

/click my avatar for a pic


hey {CtP}. It was a sad time, for sure. I'm so glad you got another one to love!

525 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:06:52pm

re: #508 christheprofessor

She was so beautiful. I'm sure you miss her dreadfully. Thanks for bringing out her pic again.

526 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:07:55pm

re: #497 joekowalski247

any hecklers present? 'Air America' was telling listeners to participate in disrupting the event!

Air America? Then no one knew about it.

527 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:07pm

re: #503 itellu3times

Local news showed some protester, one smug, smarmy young man who wanted "to ask her the hard questions, about Iraq and the economy, she wouldn't answer at the debate."

The hard questions would be "why are you such a bitch" or "how come you did not have an abortion" from my Codepink moonbat coworkers. . .one of whom has a codepink bumpersticker. . .on her escalade. . .

All hail the middle class.

I would like to ask tough questions too! Like- Obama, is Joe correct when he said you would not support changing the Constitution re: gay marriage? What about the video confirmation that Joe lied about your position on diplomacy. . .MSM source material. . .do you want to clarify either one of those statement?

Could I see a recent chest X ray? Since you do smoke. . .even if no one ever sees you. . .since you do not have to go outside, cause you are SO much more equal than me. . . so can you pony up a current lung shot?

Thanks ever so. . .

528 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:13pm

re: #518 pre-Boomer Marine brat

At what age does a man have a mid-life crisis? I think I missed out.

No, you're simply a grown-up.

My EH's crisis began shortly after he hit 40. He had to get contacts, started coloring his hair, getting trendier clothes, going New Age with dietary supplements, etc. I could deal with all that, but he decided that his passion for one of his former students, 22 years his junior, was more important to his happiness than our kids and I were. In order to justify his behavior, he had to find fault with me and everything I did. Even now, while we're separated (he hasn't responded to my divorce petition, filed over a year ago), he has done some spiteful, hurtful things, such as taking me off his vision insurance although it doesn't cost him anything.

529 yochanan  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:13pm

re: #201 jorline

P.Diddy Scared of Palin


WTF is a P. "Diddy"?

p diddy is scared of alaskan poontang>? ROFLMAO FUNNY

530 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:15pm

Congrats, Intrepid...Vandy interception at the two minute warning.

531 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:34pm

re: #514 goddessoftheclassroom

{GotC} -- I know what you are feeling right now. Wait about a month, then get yourself a new pup -- a new bundle of love is just what you need, trust me!

532 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:08:58pm

re: #512 jorline

I agree, HH. I'm kicking back and relaxing tonight. My wife is doing an overnight on the USS Lexington tonight with her Girl Scout Troop. She's been their leader for the last five years and we had a pinning ceremony earlier today for the girls aboard the USS Lexington...plus two baseball games. Great day!

I loved being a scout. . .my daughter just started Daisy!

533 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:09:03pm

re: #520 FrogMarch

yep. What Palin and McCain need to do is not just refer to Ayres as a "terrorist" -but use Ayres own words to describe the man who picked Obama for his cause.

"I'm a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist," Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk's, "Sixties Radicals,"

The message to McCain's campaign by its constituents has been "hit them now. hit them hard". If he doesn't do it, then he sinks the country. Somehow I think that Obama will be hit in the nuts and he'll get his October surprise.

/Surprise! I hope for balloons and streamers and confetti and a new set of plugs for Joe.

534 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:09:11pm

re: #529 yochanan

p diddy is scared of alaskan poontang>? ROFLMAO FUNNY

LMAO...how are you tonight yoch?

535 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:09:27pm

re: #491 LoFlyer
/calling a spade a spade!
The novice nun was complaining to her Mother Superior about the rough language used by the construction workers next door to the second grade classroom she taught in.
The Mother Superior said "These are good, honest, hardworking men that sometimes use such language, They call a spade a spade."
The novice nun replied, "Oh no Mother Superior. They call it a fucking shovel!"

536 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:10:12pm

re: #517 Allah al Fubar

Thank you very kindly -- spoil your dogs, but not your kid (s/he has to fend for him- or herself someday!)...

537 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:10:13pm

re: #489 Dr. Shalit

Archimedes -

Pretty much - AND - look at her face. That is all.

-S-

I'd do her.

538 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:10:26pm

re: #381 Mike Nargizian

What, you just like to pop in every now and then and throw insults?

539 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:10:28pm

PRAY TELL -

Why is ABC-Radio News such a leftist tool. Would love answers from RUSH, SEAN, CURTIS, and DR. LEVIN. Yeah - OBAMA served with AYRES on the board of an Organization to "Help Education" in the City of Chicago - BUT THEY WERE NOT "PALS." WHO CARES, BETWEEN THEM THEY WASTED TENS of MILLIONS of DOLLARS TO NO RESULT - LIKE DUH!

-s-

540 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:11:03pm

re: #530 jorline

Congrats, Intrepid...Vandy interception at the two minute warning.

Holy crap, what a game. Auburn came out of the locker room after halftime and commenced to playing like a high school team. And Vandy was there to capitalize on it every time.

541 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:11:33pm

re: #524 Beach Lover

Hey, {Beach}. I hope all is well with you this evening -- was beautiful here today, but, as you mentioned the other day, the bugs were out in force... Can't wait until the first frost!

542 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:11:34pm

re: #522 joekowalski247

"Borking" is Trademarked, be carefull wear you step or yoll get sued

Sue me and be damned.

543 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:12:38pm

re: #539 Dr. Shalit

PRAY TELL -

Why is ABC-Radio News such a leftist tool. Would love answers from RUSH, SEAN, CURTIS, and DR. LEVIN. Yeah - OBAMA served with AYRES on the board of an Organization to "Help Education" in the City of Chicago - BUT THEY WERE NOT "PALS." WHO CARES, BETWEEN THEM THEY WASTED TENS of MILLIONS of DOLLARS TO NO RESULT - LIKE DUH!

-s-

Even so, I'm thinking they were pals. They lived close to each other. Ayers launched his political career. Ayers hired him for that chair position. They were pals.

544 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:12:54pm

re: #532 DisturbedEma

I loved being a scout. . .my daughter just started Daisy!

I agree, Ema. My wife and daughter have enjoyed their years in scouting. My wife will miss it, but after a total of seven years it's time for another mother to step up and take the lead.

545 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:13:13pm

re: #525 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thank you. She was a real sweetheart. I really do miss her -- I think that's why I shower the new one with massive amounts of affection.... Glad you like the pic -- it's my favorite of her (don't really have that many, though -- wish I had taken more)...

546 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:13:33pm

re: #537 Archimedes

I'd do her.

Archimedes -

Good, I wouldn't. That is all.

-S-

547 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:14:09pm

re: #540 Intrepid

Holy crap, what a game. Auburn came out of the locker room after halftime and commenced to playing like a high school team. And Vandy was there to capitalize on it every time.

Smart guys WIN!

548 AceR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:14:17pm

re: #407 wolfie

I am a lifelong Democrat from a blue collar union supporting family. Never heard anything good about Republicans in my house while growing up. Educated in Montgomery County Maryland public schools during the 60's. I remember mock debates in high school civics classes (do they still teach civics?) on subjects like school bussing, affirmative action, segregation and abortion rights. I was an impressionable teenager in the 60's, and I admit today that I was suckered in by my liberal high school teachers.

I voted for Democrats and their liberal agenda at the first opportunity I could starting with Humphrey and ending with Clinton. I voted a straight Democrat ticket in each and every election. I was lulled by the words Democrat’s used to describe social injustices between the have’s and the have not’s. Their speeches were just what my itching ears wanted to hear.

In 1997, I became a Christian. Not right away, but starting around 2000 I began to examine what the politicians were doing with my vote and the votes of millions like me. I started listening to other points of view and examining how I felt about each and every issue in each and every election. And guess what? I changed my way of thinking and ultimately changed how I voted.

I realized that the most cherished gift we have are our children. They are our future. I had an abortion in 1974 because I was told I had a "right" to abort my child if I wanted. I bought into the Left's argument that that every woman has a "right" to choose what she did with her body. Today I realize I was wrong to take that innocent life. My child would have been 34 years old today. Instead, I "chose" to terminate that life created by my irresponsible behavior for my own selfish reasons. Do I regret my decision? Sadly, yes. Did I eventually decide to do something about it? Yes. I changed my way of thinking and I changed my vote. My decision to change was based on whether I believed I was my highest moral authority and could choose anything I wanted to do---including taking the life of an innocent---or whether there was someone higher than me who knew more than I could ever know and was infinitely more wise than I could ever be. I want no part of a party that advocates that innocent life is expendable.

And I worked for the Federal Government for 35 years. I saw how government welfare programs, run by bureaucrats with an agenda, are disfunctional, wasteful, and harmful to free-thinking Americans. I once thought big government was the answer. But after witnessing year after year of waste, fraud and abuse of monies pouring into government coffers ponied up by hard-working tax payers thinking that our politicians have our best interest in mind, and I changed my way of thinking. And I changed my way of voting.

Today I realize how wonderful the United States of America really is and how proud I am to be an American.

549 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:14:25pm

re: #528 goddessoftheclassroom

No, you're simply a grown-up.

My EH's crisis began shortly after he hit 40. He had to get contacts, started coloring his hair, getting trendier clothes, going New Age with dietary supplements, etc. I could deal with all that, but he decided that his passion for one of his former students, 22 years his junior, was more important to his happiness than our kids and I were. In order to justify his behavior, he had to find fault with me and everything I did. Even now, while we're separated (he hasn't responded to my divorce petition, filed over a year ago), he has done some spiteful, hurtful things, such as taking me off his vision insurance although it doesn't cost him anything.

What state do you live in. In many states to tke you off the insurance is against the law.

550 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:14:27pm

re: #545 christheprofessor

Thank you. She was a real sweetheart. I really do miss her -- I think that's why I shower the new one with massive amounts of affection.... Glad you like the pic -- it's my favorite of her (don't really have that many, though -- wish I had taken more)...

You were busy loving her.

551 Beach Lover  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:07pm

re: #541 christheprofessor
dang...they're still there?! I love this weather! I wish it would stay till uh....May :-)
/it's a little cool for the beach ;-)

552 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:08pm

re: #539 Dr. Shalit

ABC radio news pisses me off too. Total in-the-tank for Obama.

553 yochanan  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:09pm

re: #534 jorline

OK I GUESS TOO MUCH SHUL FOR ONE WEEK,

554 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:42pm

re: #548 AceR

{AceR}

555 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:43pm

re: #543 Archimedes

Even so, I'm thinking they were pals. They lived close to each other. Ayers launched his political career. Ayers hired him for that chair position. They were pals.

Archimedes,

My point is - "Pals" doesn't matter. Business/Political dealings do.

-S-

556 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:15:50pm

re: #528 goddessoftheclassroom

No, you're simply a grown-up.

Thanks for that.

I began a long stretch of maturing in my late 30s. Probably saw me over the hump.

Anyway, I've gotta get out of here and get some things done. You have a GREAT evening! MWAH!

557 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:16:25pm

re: #549 BBev

What state do you live in. In many states to tke you off the insurance is against the law.

Pennsylvania. My attorney is on this, but I don't know whether it's actually illegal.

558 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:17:52pm

re: #518 pre-Boomer Marine brat

At what age does a man have a mid-life crisis? I think I missed out.


Next Wednesday. ;>}

///

559 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:17:53pm

re: #553 yochanan

OK I GUESS TOO MUCH SHUL FOR ONE WEEK,

Sorry, yoch...I had to look that up.

shul Definition
shul (s̸ho̵̅o̅l)
noun
synagogue
Etymology: Yiddish, lit., school < MHG schuol, school < L schola, school

560 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:17:54pm

re: #541 christheprofessor

Here is a pic of little Shamus: [Link: www.petloss.com...]

561 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:18:07pm

re: #539 Dr. Shalit

PRAY TELL -

Why is ABC-Radio News such a leftist tool. Would love answers from RUSH, SEAN, CURTIS, and DR. LEVIN. Yeah - OBAMA served with AYRES on the board of an Organization to "Help Education" in the City of Chicago - BUT THEY WERE NOT "PALS." WHO CARES, BETWEEN THEM THEY WASTED TENS of MILLIONS of DOLLARS TO NO RESULT - LIKE DUH!

-s-

Obama went to a racist left-wing church for 20 years - but he didn't inhale.
or something...

562 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:19:11pm

New thread

563 jorline  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:19:18pm

re: #559 jorline

Just increased my Yiddish vocabulary.

564 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:19:50pm

re: #528 goddessoftheclassroom

{Goddess} Wow. Hang in there and please know that your own God given strength will be your guiding force. And let's not forget your service to humanity by being a great teacher; God Bless you.

565 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:21:34pm

re: #548 AceR

G-d bless you. Leaving the "Plantation" has its challenges. It also has its rewards - first among them - freedom of conscience.-

-S-

566 BBev  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:21:51pm

re: #557 goddessoftheclassroom

Pennsylvania. My attorney is on this, but I don't know whether it's actually illegal.

I know when my first wife tried it in Massachusetts she was told she could not.

567 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:22:33pm

re: #555 Dr. Shalit

Archimedes,

My point is - "Pals" doesn't matter. Business/Political dealings do.

-S-

I think both do. Anyone who can be friends with someone who holds beliefs like the ones Ayres holds is morally dubious at best. Who a person's friends are tell us a lot about who he is.

In terms of his business dealings, his actions were not good either. Think about it, he financed Reverend Wright and Father Fleuger, both racists and virulent anti-Americans.

The Ayers/Obama relationship is ideologically quite deep.

568 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:22:34pm

Krauthammer admires bama's "cool",,,,in first debate he glared at McCain while blinking at a rate of 3 per second(180 per minute)(my estimate) as McCain spoke,,
"The normal, resting blink rate of a human being is 20 closures per minute, with the average blink lasting one quarter of a second (Karson 1992). Significantly faster rates may reflect emotional stress, as aroused, e.g., in the fight-or-flight response."

"U.S. Politics. In the 1996 presidential debates, candidate Bob Dole averaged 147 blinks--seven times above normal. President Bill Clinton averaged 99 blinks a minute, reaching 117 when asked about increases in teen drug use, a sensitive issue of the day (Tecce 1996).
. . 3. The average rate for someone speaking on TV is 31 to 50 blinks a minute--twice the relaxed rate (Tecce 1996)."

I'll have my stopwatch at hand Tuesday,,

569 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:22:52pm

re: #548 AceR

Another stellar post.

One of the things I often ask of liberals is: If, with age and experience come knowledge and wisdom, and as people age, more move from liberal to conservative than conservative to liberal, what does that say about liberalism?

I never can seem to get a straight answer. The most intelligent I get is to question the notion that more move left to right than right to left, but I think there is enough evidence out there to support that (you are an example).

570 akak  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:23:00pm

{Goddess}

Sorry to hear about your dog! I have an elderly dog and not looking forward to that.

"Are you as good a person as your dog thinks you are?" -one of the weekly front lawn signs of our church

571 x-wing  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:24:12pm

re: #557 goddessoftheclassroom

Pennsylvania. My attorney is on this, but I don't know whether it's actually illegal.


What part of Pa. may I ask, Goddess?

York here.

572 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:24:27pm
573 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:24:27pm

re: #560 Pvt Bin Jammin

What a fine looking dog! My current girl loves to play in the park with a dog (male, though) who looks just like that...

574 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:24:59pm

re: #561 FrogMarch

Obama went to a racist left-wing church for 20 years - but he didn't inhale.
or something...

Frog -

Back in the day, not knowing the downside, I tried cannabis, inhaled and damnbetcha, enjoyed it. I learned and grew up - has Sen.Obama?

-S-

575 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:25:54pm

re: #550 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes, that's true. We get into the mind-set that the current circumstance will last forever...

576 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:25:54pm

re: #536 christheprofessor

Thank you very kindly -- spoil your dogs, but not your kid (s/he has to fend for him- or herself someday!)...

re: #568 Gorgon Zola

Hooray for the Anal Retentive People of America.

577 Allah al Fubar  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:26:41pm

re: #576 Allah al Fubar

re: #568 Gorgon Zola

Hooray for the Anal Retentive People of America.

Well, fooey... Chris, this was not for you. It was for Gorgon Zola.

/feelin foolish.

578 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:27:21pm

Hebrew vocabulary jeopardy question,,define:

Gudgodah

579 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:28:26pm

re: #573 christheprofessor

Thanks. He was our lives for only 11 yrs. Really our daughter's dog but when she left home he never cared for any of the places she lived so ended up coming back here. OMG he was so much fun! He LOVED to play.

580 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:28:33pm

re: #577 Allah al Fubar

Well, fooey... Chris, this was not for you. It was for Gorgon Zola.

/feelin foolish.

"A-a-F" -

ZOLA, the greatest GORGON ever.

-S-

581 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:30:15pm

re: #577 Allah al Fubar

Well, fooey... Chris, this was not for you. It was for Gorgon Zola.

/feelin foolish.

No worries -- a minor glitch in the greater scheme of life!

582 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:32:46pm

re: #579 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks. He was our lives for only 11 yrs. Really our daughter's dog but when she left home he never cared for any of the places she lived so ended up coming back here. OMG he was so much fun! He LOVED to play.

Heh -- he just wanted to be around y'all! We had an English Springer Spaniel (absolutely beautiful dog) that was "mine" but believe me, when I went off to college, that dog stayed with my parents and wouldn't have it any other way... That said, she would go absolutely nuts whenever I came home... (ah, the memories)

583 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:35:49pm

re: #582 christheprofessor

That's almost exactly how it was here. We have more squirrels to chase anyway. LOL At least we got a lot of visits from the daughter in those days. After he got sick she used to come over and spend the night twice a week....just to be with him.

584 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:36:10pm

re: #548 AceR

{AceR}

585 Arkay  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:36:59pm

Next up: Rod Dreher.

586 AceR  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:38:36pm

re: #569 christheprofessor

Thanks for your comments. I must learn to keep my comments short and sweet. But it is hard for me because now I have so much I want to say to others who are trapped in liberal land. I love LGF! You all really have it on the ball (pun intended)!

I've learned so much this past year and I am glad to know there are so many others out there who think like I do.

587 Gorgon Zola  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:39:20pm

YAA!,,get the squirrels off me!

588 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:39:23pm

re: #583 Pvt Bin Jammin

Unconditional love, writ large...

589 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:43:41pm

re: #588 christheprofessor

Absolutely.

Just gave a big hug to the little "furniture eater", LOL, and when my older little girl comes out from under the bed will hug her too.

590 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:44:38pm

re: #586 AceR

Well, just keep on posting! No need to get all your thoughts out in one post (very hard to keep up with the threads that way!)...

Besides, the liberals here (and there are some) are liberals in the classical sense of the term (I have some of that liberal in me) -- not leftists by any means. From your posts, I get the impression that you bought into the leftist dogma...

Would that more would see the light...

591 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:46:06pm

Well, I'm out, you all. As always, I've enjoyed the company!

You all have a wonderful evening... :)

592 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:48:05pm

re: #553 yochanan

OK I GUESS TOO MUCH SHUL FOR ONE WEEK,

Yes, my tuchas is a bit shul worn this week. . .and next? Oy Gevalt!

593 Mike Nargizian  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:49:43pm

Hey am still baffled till wondering if the trolls last night rejoicing in their "investigative" work were gonna go back and check out their "work"?

This would be the latest version of lgfers [the ones driving down the average Intelligence Quotient here].....
Where have you gone Zulu Baby?

745 - 746 - 747...

594 SnakeSpit  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 6:55:05pm

re: #533 Allah al Fubar

The message to McCain's campaign by its constituents has been "hit them now. hit them hard". If he doesn't do it, then he sinks the country. Somehow I think that Obama will be hit in the nuts and he'll get his October surprise.

Could this be Obaminations October surprise? He knows about this, but most Americans don't:
[Link: docs.justia.com...]

595 FlakMusic  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:03:38pm

re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth

Funny that, how much better Gov. Palin comes off in a live debate verses a creatively edited interview with an MSM stooge.

Why on earth would that need to be explained to Kathleen Parker?

596 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:06:06pm

re: #548 AceR


We have a lot in common. My conversion came with this election as well. . .

597 talon_262  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 7:43:56pm

re: #528 goddessoftheclassroom

No, you're simply a grown-up.

My EH's crisis began shortly after he hit 40. He had to get contacts, started coloring his hair, getting trendier clothes, going New Age with dietary supplements, etc. I could deal with all that, but he decided that his passion for one of his former students, 22 years his junior, was more important to his happiness than our kids and I were. In order to justify his behavior, he had to find fault with me and everything I did. Even now, while we're separated (he hasn't responded to my divorce petition, filed over a year ago), he has done some spiteful, hurtful things, such as taking me off his vision insurance although it doesn't cost him anything.

With all due respect, goddess, your estranged husband sounds like an immature douchebag...not even man enough to finalize the divorce. Sounds like he wanted it both ways, the sex life of a single man with the benefits of being married.

Did I say your EH sounds like a immature douchebag?

598 profitsbeard  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 8:05:45pm

Crow is big on a lot of Republican elitists' plates this week.

Best served on a bed of arugula.

599 pbird  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 9:29:53pm

re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth

Personally, I don't like catsup at all. I prefer to use this instead.

It's great on scrambled eggs.

Yup! On anything almost.

600 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 9:39:49pm

re: #230 Allah al Fubar

Ferina

601 SteveRogers  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 10:30:08pm

re: #11 cliffster

Welcome back, Kathleen. I'd say something about fair weather friends, but this is no time for that.

In that case, I will. Parker is only conservative on a few points, and anyone who is ready to throw Sarah under the bus after a few, edited interviews is indeed a fair weather friend, and someone I would never trust.

602 Wendya  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 10:37:03pm

re: #521 carray

I don't see that Parker apologized or is eating any crow. She's being snarky, and I told her so.

Yep. Arrogant, condescending and elitist.

Sorry, Kathleen.... you've shown your true colors and they're not a hell of a lot different from what I've seen on the left.

603 Canadhimmis  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 10:46:28pm

Thanks, #33 Vinnie.

Great article by Mark Steyn.
Nice to see that Steyn is back for the stretch run to November. I wonder if any of the blatant bin Biden lies that he highlights will gain any mainstream media traction. Prolly not.

Especially enjoyable is this vintage Mark Steyn writing about this whopper by Biden:

When Regular Joe Six-Pack Bluecollar Biden tried to match her on the Main Street cred, it rang slightly wacky. “Look,” he said, “All you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie’s Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me, where I spend a lot of time.” Why? Is he moonlighting as a checkout clerk on the evening shift? Or is he stalking that nice lady in Lighting Fixtures? As for Katie’s Restaurant, ah, I’m sure it was grand but apparently it closed in 1990. In the Diner of the Mind, the refills are endless and Senator Joe is sitting shootin’ the breeze over a cuppa joe with a couple other regular joes on adjoining stools while Betty-Jo, the sassy waitress who’s tough as nails but with a heart of gold, says Ol’ Joe, the short-order cook who’s doing his Sloppy Joes just the way the Senator likes ‘em, really appreciates the way that, despite 78 years in Washington, Joe Biden is still just the same regular Joe Six-Pack he was when he and Norman Rockwell first came in for a sarsaparilla all those years ago.

.........................

If McCain or Palin pulled this lie the MSM would be all over it, 24-7.

604 Wendya  Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:07:58pm

re: #593 Mike Nargizian

Hey am still baffled till wondering if the trolls last night rejoicing in their "investigative" work were gonna go back and check out their "work"?

This would be the latest version of lgfers [the ones driving down the average Intelligence Quotient here].....
Where have you gone Zulu Baby?

745 - 746 - 747...

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but....it ain't all about you, okay?

605 Gorgon Zola  Sun, Oct 5, 2008 11:15:53am

re: #412 Ojoe

Thanks, Ojoe !

606 Jimmah  Sun, Oct 5, 2008 6:43:29pm

Well, I must admit she surprised me as well. A more seasoned candidate would have done more damage to Biden, of course, but she didn't blow it.


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