Shmuck

Well isn't he just a picture of cool.

/asshat

Smarmt, little wimp.

While others of us chose to honor and defend that flag, on DMZs and in bloody fields half a world away...

The very reason Obama likes him.

What an asshole.

I notice he's not wearing a flag pin.

There is blood on his shoes.

and his hands.

Dedicated to Bill

Thanks for posting this. I believe B. Hussein Obama and Ayres were working together during the time this photo was taken.

He should be exiled to Somalia.

I'm sick of hypocritical leftist assholes who would literally walk on our flag while simultaneously protecting themselves in it. Put your money where your mouth is, asshole, and move to China, North Korea, Vietnam, or any other commie hell hole if they're so fucking great. No? Then you're a hypocritical scumwad.

pig - that makes me mad. i'm going to vote mccain/palin. in your eye!

re: #7 abolitionist

I notice he's not wearing a flag pin.

He'd have to contort himself to step on his chest then.

I'm sure he'd find a way to do it - hatred that vile often spurs great creativity.

re: #12 Sharmuta

I'm sick of hypocritical leftist assholes who would literally walk on our flag while simultaneously protecting themselves in it. Put your money where your mouth is, asshole, and move to China, North Korea, Vietnam, or any other commie hell hole if they're so fucking great. No? Then you're a hypocritical scumwad.

Well put!

This needs to broadcast continually in every swing state in the next month.

re: #3 opnion

Smarmt, little wimp.

I mean smarmy. Yeah thats it, smarmy wimp!

This is a man who devised bombs with nails in them that were intended to penetrate the flesh of US soldiers at an army base.

He helped launch Obama's political career. What did he see in Obama that resonated within him? Hmm ?

Wont
make
a
bit
of
difference.

Obama's supporters hate America just as much.

TRUTH SQUAD THIS, 0bama!

Fucker.

But why is this relevant? CNN says Barry doesn't have a close relationship with this hoolum.

/

As much as he hates to admit, the flag and all it stands for are actually holding him up.

re: #17 opnion

I liked smarmt. I was going to use it later!

Commie scumbag.

You and your wife ever hear of this guy? [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #19 DoubleU

It won't matter to the kool-aid drinkers, but to undecideds, it just might. Many swing voters still love this country.

Someone needs to step on his throat,,,Me,Me,Me

Do liberals go to school or something to be able to perfect that "I'm-so-deep-and-important" look?

Where's my mace...

So What?
>"Several other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have debunked the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship."

/Sarc

This is a man who collaborated with and later married a woman who publically declared that the Manson family killings were cool.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

re: #24 ArmyWife

I liked smarmt. I was going to use it later!

Then by all means, be my guest. What does it mean?

I can't bring together the rage I feel at this imbecile! And to think he came from a very wealthy family, who never had to work for anything in his life. Like so many of the spoiled brats of that era. Most of us were worried about getting through college or praying that our loved ones came back form the war. But, never to hate the way they did. I just could never understand where that came from.

"I acted appropriately in the context of those times," he says.

Didn't this magazine hit the newsstands on Sept 11, 2001?

William Ayers wraps himself in this flag.

re: #25 Pvt Bin Jammin

Commie scumbag.

You and your wife ever hear of this guy? [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

There is no statute of limitations on murder.

re: #35 Racer X

Didn't this magazine hit the newsstands on Sept 11, 2001?

yes

This was presumably before all of Bush's apparent violations of American decency so what was Ayer's excuse?

re: #35 Racer X

Didn't this magazine hit the newsstands on Sept 11, 2001?

Ironically, yes.

Another spoiled rich boy with Daddy Issues who used radical politics as group therapy, with deadly results. The 46-54 Baby Boom produced countless thousands of these creeps, although few took their acting-out as far as Ayers did.

re: #10 FreeRadical

Thanks for posting this. I believe B. Hussein Obama and Ayres were working together during the time this photo was taken.

Would be great if it could be proved!

re: #12 Sharmuta

I'm sick of hypocritical leftist assholes who would literally walk on our flag while simultaneously protecting themselves in it. Put your money where your mouth is, asshole, and move to China, North Korea, Vietnam, or any other commie hell hole if they're so fucking great. No? Then you're a hypocritical scumwad.

I'll say it again...(see my comment here from the previous thread):

Sharmuta--you are on top of your game tonight! When I run for President, you'll surely be my VP pick.

There is a scene in "American Carol" where George Patton, JFK and O'Reilly start punching Moore in the face, as for Ayers, well, when I see that picture I am reminded of that scene!

re: #33 Beach Lover

I can't bring together the rage I feel at this imbecile! And to think he came from a very wealthy family, who never had to work for anything in his life. Like so many of the spoiled brats of that era. Most of us were worried about getting through college or praying that our loved ones came back form the war. But, never to hate the way they did. I just could never understand where that came from.

If he'd been working, he might actually have learned some values and appreciation for what hardship really is.

re: #35 Racer X
yes

re: #43 SlartyBartfast

I'll say it again...(see my comment here from the previous thread):

Sharmuta--you are on top of your game tonight! When I run for President, you'll surely be my VP pick.

Aww- shucks.

Didn't this magazine hit the newsstands on Sept 11, 2001?

Wasn't that the day that George Bush and Dick Cheney detonated the explosives in the World Trade Center?

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re: #35 Racer X

Didn't this magazine hit the newsstands on Sept 11, 2001?

I thought that was the date of the NYT article about him.

re: #18 mama winger

This is a man who devised bombs with nails in them that were intended to penetrate the flesh of US soldiers at an army base.

He helped launch Obama's political career. What did he see in Obama that resonated within him? Hmm ?

My hubby still has the scar from when he was stabbed, along with another Marine, taking away an explosive device from some of these "radicals" who were trying to blow up some helium tanks.

Spit on the weathermen.

can't someone just accidentally smack this dufous in his festering gob?

From our August 2001 issue: "Kill your parents!" urged sixties leftist Bill Ayers, whose father was the chairman of Commonwealth Edison here. In Ayers's new memoir, Fugitive Days, he reconciles his militant past with his present identity: father of three, esteemed professor at UIC—and unabashed patron of the great bourgeois coffee chain, Starbucks

re: #44 wright1
was it a good movie? I want to go see it.

"That's not the William Ayers I knew"

Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.

Any chance of suspending that rule for this thread only?

/

re: #32 opnion

Its a very nuanced term which means "thinks they are smart while looking quite like a varmint."

Well there goes the democrazies argument that little BHO was just 8 years old when that big bad Ayers was in the weather underground doing those .
silly bombing thingees

So, pic in 2001. that makes BHO 37 at the time.

Hardly old enough for Hussein to know....

re: #48 kansas

Didn't this magazine hit the newsstands on Sept 11, 2001?

Wasn't that the day that George Bush and Dick Cheney detonated the explosives in the World Trade Center?

//////////////////////////////////////// //

Shhhh. We're not supposed to tell anybody about that. I still can't believe it worked.
/

re: #37 Honorary Yooper

Yep. They need to get some "cold case" investigators on that. I am not kidding.

My father fought in WWII for this idiot to do that.

"Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country," he (Ayers) said.

re: #50 Pvt Bin Jammin

My hubby still has the scar from when he was stabbed, along with another Marine, taking away an explosive device from some of these "radicals" who were trying to blow up some helium tanks.

Spit on the weathermen.

God bless your husband and tell him thank you from my family.

If you thought Jimmah Cattah was bad.........Just wait.

But the NYT said he didn't personally kill anybody, so they believe it's OK he hates America.

re: #53 Beach Lover

was it a good movie? I want to go see it.

You didn't ask me, but I saw it. Given a second chance I would have stayed home and watched football. Sorry.

More on Ayers:

Ayers Given Rings Made from Downed U.S. Airplanes

After returning from Cuba, Dohrn [note: William Ayers' wife] and others met with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong representatives in Budapest, Hungary, to discuss antiwar strategy on US campuses. Speaking a few days later at an assembly of revolutionary student movements at Columbia University, Dohrn reported that the Vietnamese communists she met in Budapest were working with US GIs in Saigon, attempting to obtain military information.

As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he "left the room to cry." He said, "I realized...America was an evil... and that I was... living inside the belly of the beast...."

Fucker.

re: #40 Honorary Yooper

The East Bay Express, the only Northern California alt-weekly freebie paper that's not hardcore moonbat, published an article about late Earth First! terrorist Judi Bari that hit the stands the day after 9/11. It was the lead, and featured a big photo of Bari in fatigues, wielding an UZI. The Watermelon* community wasn't too pleased with that.

*"Green on the outside, Red on the inside"

Now lets see,,Obama's campaign started in Ayers living room,,and will end up in the trash

Change you Need

re: #62 livefreeor die

You're very welcome. I'll tell him.

From an NYT picture caption:

Bill Ayers is now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. His wife, Bernardine Dohrn, teaches at Northwestern University.

How is this possible?

re: #53 Beach Lover

was it a good movie? I want to go see it.

For the converted like me and perhaps you, way over the top. But middle America needs to see this. There are so many uninformed who do not get it (the greatness of this nation) This movie is a wake up call for those who have been indoctrinated that America sucks.

re: #66 Racer X

More on Ayers:

Fucker.

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Obama doesn't seem to have as much of a problem with criminals as he does with the criminal justice system.
Stanley Kurtz:
"Obama was perfectly aware of Ayers’ radical views, since he read and publically endorsed, without qualification, Ayers’ book on juvenile crime. That book is quite radical, expressing doubts about whether we ought to have a prison system at all, comparing America to South Africa’s apartheid system, and contemptuously dismissing the idea of the United States as a kind or just country."
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

/but but but ... you know.... they hardly new each other...

re:

fixed the picture

re: #71 annakita

From an NYT picture caption:

Bill Ayers is now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. His wife, Bernardine Dohrn, teaches at Northwestern University.

How is this possible?

The anti-American ideas, believe it or not, emanate from universities. They are anti-American institutions, many of them.

I know it is a fantasy, but imagine that on Tuesday the name William Ayers is at least mentioned during the debate.

McCain would then calmly unfold this photo from his jacket pocket and display it for the camera.

re: #71 annakita
he trial was dismissed because of illegal wiretaps.

re: #68 Oldasdirt

Now lets see,,Obama's campaign started in Ayers living room,,and will end up in the trash

Where did you get that? The Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have debunked the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.//

re: #66 Racer X

I've read that more than once. I just want to scream only in America could a protozoa like you be a legitimate education prof after trying to blow up people and over throw the Government. If it America is so darn evil to you, then pick your paradise and go! Go to Cuba, go to Venezuela, go to China but JUST GO!

re: #74 jaunte

Obama doesn't seem to have as much of a problem with criminals as he does with the criminal justice system.
Stanley Kurtz:
"Obama was perfectly aware of Ayers’ radical views, since he read and publically endorsed, without qualification, Ayers’ book on juvenile crime. That book is quite radical, expressing doubts about whether we ought to have a prison system at all, comparing America to South Africa’s apartheid system, and contemptuously dismissing the idea of the United States as a kind or just country."
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

It's about time.. Why has McCain waited so long?

Geeze oh Petes!

re: #61 Outrider

"Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country," he (Ayers) said.

This man is a sociopath who only appreciates anything that allows him to gratify his own ego. He has no appreciation for our country but stays here anyway.

re: #48 kansas

On that subject: today I went to San Francisco's LoveFest, an immense public parade/rave modeled on Berlin's Love Parade. One of the floats was a TrutherMobile, and festooned with big signs about the 9/11 Coverup and the New World Order. It's depressing how many people fall for such obviously inane conspiracy-theorizing, but I guess that goes with the young-dumb vibe of SF alt-kultur.

re: #73 MandyManners

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Those two assholes make my blood boil. And those two assholes picked Barack Obama to be a part of their lives.

re: #79 The Shadow Do

I know it is a fantasy, but imagine that on Tuesday the name William Ayers is at least mentioned during the debate.

McCain would then calmly unfold this photo from his jacket pocket and display it for the camera.

That so needs to occur - good point

If you hate America, Obama is your guy.

As I said in another thread, as a mother, I've been thinking about Obama's childhood.
His mother used to wake him up at 4:00 am to study. I asked a bunch of friends last night if they knew of ANYONE who woke their kids up that early to study. Of course nobody knew of anyone and thought that was strange.
Then he's shipped off to Indonesia (to study Islam? and get indoctrinated in some other ways)....then back to Hawaii without his mother (what mother would do this?), then to mentor with Frank Davis, afterwards to meet Khalid Al Mansoor and be sponsored by Prince Alaweed (sp?) to college, off to Pakistan with two Muslim roommates....only to be hooked up with Ayers later in life.
It's like a Clancy novel....only it's true.
Obama's whole story is one sordid pack of lies/nefarious associations/omissions etc.
Sarah needs to hammer this home and I've been emailing McCain's web site every day, 5 times a day on this issue!
Maybe they are listening.

re: #71 annakita

From an NYT picture caption:

Bill Ayers is now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. His wife, Bernardine Dohrn, teaches at Northwestern University.

How is this possible?

Because the colleges have been taken over by America-hating commies?

re: #81 kansas

Like I'm gonna believe them

re: #82 ArmyWife

Why go, when his goal is to bring the great workers paradise here.

Gramscian whore.

I thought I'd heard michelle babysat for him? Was that from you, Mandy?

re: #76 opnion

What I said is that Mayor Dalet called Ayers, 'A Respectable Member of the Community." (Didn't post 1st time)

This is what I would like to see, but the main stream media is too sissy to print:

One of our finest, a Marine soldier, in his combat fatigues with his weapon in one hand and an American flag in his other, standing with his foot on the chest of a prostrate Ayers.

Yup...that's what I want to see...

re: #44 wright1

There is a scene in "American Carol" where George Patton, JFK and O'Reilly start punching Moore in the face, as for Ayers, well, when I see that picture I am reminded of that scene!

i died laughing at that scene in the beginning at the Cuban hospital.

re: #57 Colin Nelson

Well there goes the democrazies argument that little BHO was just 8 years old when that big bad Ayers was in the weather underground doing those .
silly bombing thingees

So, pic in 2001. that makes BHO 37 at the time.

Hardly old enough for Hussein to know....

I am so sick of that "8 years old" excuse!
Manson committed his murders when I was 8.
So it's ok for me to hang around with him now?

Sheesh!

re: #66 Racer X

re: #74 jaunte

re: #75 FrogMarch

Keep pounding away. Lizards thank you.

re: #73 MandyManners
I wonder if they could have been from McCain's plane? Might be a question for the debate?

AOL straw poll still has McCain way ahead.

[Link: news.aol.com...]

re: #79 The Shadow Do

I know it is a fantasy, but imagine that on Tuesday the name William Ayers is at least mentioned during the debate.

McCain would then calmly unfold this photo from his jacket pocket and display it for the camera.

Are props permitted?

re: #93 Sharmuta

I thought I'd heard michelle babysat for him? Was that from you, Mandy?

I'd heard that he babysat for BHO and WAB.

re: #84 livefreeor die

This man is a sociopath who only appreciates anything that allows him to gratify his own ego. He has no appreciation for our country but stays here anyway.

"Guilty as hell, free as a bird..." That's something like what Ted Bundy said, isn't it? At least, until he went to Florida........

I wouldn't be afraid to meet him in a dark alley...

re: #75 FrogMarch

Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

/but but but ... you know.... they hardly knew each other...

KNEW - gah.

fixed

Just a reminder: in 2001, for an article in Chicago Magazine, Barack Obama’s friend William Ayers proudly allowed himself to be photographed stepping on a United States flag:

So for the next four years, it looks like Obama & Ayers were exchanging E-mails:

according to Obama’s campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt, today he said:

..the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood...

How is it that this arse has not met with some sort of accident in the last 40 years?

re: #60 wright1

My father fought in WWII for this idiot to do that.

No, he didn't.

Your father fought in WWII to defend a society of laws, in which murderous thugs like William Ayers are supposed to be removed from society for the rest of their worthless lives, however short or long that may be.

re: #102 MandyManners

I'd heard that he babysat for BHO and WAB.

Ah! Okay- can we find anything on that? It would really blow the "casual acquaintance" thing out of the water.

re: #79 The Shadow Do

I know it is a fantasy, but imagine that on Tuesday the name William Ayers is at least mentioned during the debate.

McCain would then calmly unfold this photo from his jacket pocket and display it for the camera.

or even better the one on comment #71

re: #12 Sharmuta

I'm sick of hypocritical leftist assholes who would literally walk on our flag while simultaneously protecting themselves in it. Put your money where your mouth is, asshole, and move to China, North Korea, Vietnam, or any other commie hell hole if they're so fucking great. No? Then you're a hypocritical scumwad.

They won't do that because they would just be another drone in the Communist hive. What they want is to be the rulers of their own Communist state.

They want to be G-d on Earth.

They see us mere mortals as either tools or livestock that they can use for their own ends, or as defective animals that must be destroyed, or trash to be disposed of.

Such people cannot be reasoned or negotiated with. They can only be isolated, driven off, or destroyed.

October Surprise

/Michelle

Another point from Stanley Kurtz:

"The point of Ayers’ education theory is that the United States is a fundamentally racist and oppressive nation. Students, Ayers believes, ought to be encouraged to resist this oppression. Obama was funding Ayers’ "small schools" project, built around this philosophy. Ayers’ radicalism isn’t something in the past. It’s something to which Obama gave moral and financial support as an adult. So when [New York Times reporter Scott] Shane says that Obama has never expressed sympathy for Ayers’ radicalism, he’s flat wrong. Obama’s funded it."
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

re: #74 jaunte

Obama doesn't seem to have as much of a problem with criminals as he does with the criminal justice system.
Stanley Kurtz:
"Obama was perfectly aware of Ayers’ radical views, since he read and publically endorsed, without qualification, Ayers’ book on juvenile crime. That book is quite radical, expressing doubts about whether we ought to have a prison system at all, comparing America to South Africa’s apartheid system, and contemptuously dismissing the idea of the United States as a kind or just country."
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

We have a moonbat teacher like him at my son's middle school. He doesn't think we should have consequences for bullying because, he claims, it won't work and "We have a generation of people in prison who show that punishment doesn't work." He spit this crap out at an anti-bullying meeting at the school; I thought I was going to lose it. Actually, he and Ayers could be twins-same look on their faces and same Lennon/Lenin glasses.

re: #33 Beach Lover

But, never to hate the way they did. I just could never understand where that came from.

There's really no tangible answer at all. Some humans are just born with defective souls.

re: #106 nightlight

Just a reminder: in 2001, for an article in Chicago Magazine, Barack Obama’s friend William Ayers proudly allowed himself to be photographed stepping on a United States flag:

So for the next four years, it looks like Obama & Ayers were exchanging E-mails:

according to Obama’s campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt, today he said:

..the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood...

Damn it, the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have debunked the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship . Get off this. Obama simply does not know that man, or that is not the William Ayers that he knew. I don't know what to tell you."///////.

re: #97 Typicalwhitey

I am so sick of that "8 years old" excuse!
Manson committed his murders when I was 8.
So it's ok for me to hang around with him now?

Sheesh!

Agreed. And ... Ayers reaffirmed his beliefs in spades in 2001, well after Obama befriended him. In addition, Obama financed Reverend Wright and Father Fleuger, both of whom are America haters and racists. So, he pro-actively supported these people and I believe their ideas.

re: #104 Timbre

I wouldn't be afraid to meet him in a dark alley...

He can't get Arugala in back alleys, so you won't find him.

re: #111 The Other Les

Gramscian whores.

#60 - Wright
Yes, many - MANY good men have died to allow this pile of $hit the freedom to do this.
This pile of maggot crap ........ I am not allowed to post what needs to happen.
Just F"ing ONCE => just once would justice happen to one of these Leftist sphincter muscles ?
Ayers, Fonda, Kerry,Carter, Frank, Gore, Clinton ssoooooooo much damage to the Republic with no consequence. Others always forced to pay the price and clean up after.
God Help the USA if BHO weasels his way to 1600.

re: #101 unrealizedviewpoint

Are props permitted?

No, fantasy like I said.

re: #109 Sharmuta

Ah! Okay- can we find anything on that? It would really blow the "casual acquaintance" thing out of the water.

Well, they placed an ad in the newspaper. "Needed: Babysitter". Might be a weird coincidence, but don't be so racist as to imply an actual connection..
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re: #79 The Shadow Do

I know it is a fantasy, but imagine that on Tuesday the name William Ayers is at least mentioned during the debate.

McCain would then calmly unfold this photo from his jacket pocket and display it for the camera.

You're correct. It'll never happen.

re: #102 MandyManners

I'd heard that he babysat for BHO and WAB.

Who would leave their kids with Ayers? He could fit them with suicide belts.

Related: Obama runs, can't hide from ACORN

Project Vote

Posted this on the last thread but WTH, will post again. I wonder if this is the same Naomi Jaffe that was in the Weather Underground?

Yoga for Obama!
[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

re: #89 madmama

Obama's mother and father met in a Russian language class. When I read of that, the alarm bells went off. I investigated further, because that in and of itself is not prima facia evidence of anything. I took a few mouse clicks to find out they were both leftists, to varying degrees.

livefreeor die (#114),

So did you walk up, push him to the ground and then laugh?

I found a Larry Johnson link- I'm going to go through his links, because, well- it's Larry Johnson. BBIAF.

re: #78 Archimedes

The anti-American ideas, believe it or not, emanate from universities. They are anti-American institutions, many of them.

Not all universities are hotbeds of radicalism; not all university programs promote anti-Americanism. Much of that PC crap comes from places like Berkley and, especially, Columbia.

re: #126 Pvt Bin Jammin

'Where are they now.'

"Naomi Jaffe
A former member of the Weather Underground, Jaffe currently lives in Albany, New York, and is executive director of a foundation that supports women's activism."
[Link: www.pbs.org...]

I am sure that with all you lizards working hard,,the mask will be pulled off Obama before Halloween.

This must be one of William Ayers friends.

Liberal Idiot

Gateway Pundit is reporting another great line from Sarah today:

Just once it would be nice if he [0bama] said he wanted our country to win!

Ain't that the truth.
;)

What can we do, or how can we take back the colleges and universities? This may sound like a lame question, but since I want my children/grandchildren educated, what can I do?

"They're friends. So what?"

re: #127 MrPaulRevere

Obama's mother and father met in a Russian language class. When I read of that, the alarm bells went off. I investigated further, because that in and of itself is not prima facia evidence of anything. I took a few mouse clicks to find out they were both leftists, to varying degrees.

I doubt they were studying the subtle Slavic beauty of palatized and unpalatized consonants.

re: #89 madmama

I've been emailing McCain's web site every day, 5 times a day on this issue!
Maybe they are listening.

Yeah, it's the stuff of fiction, but.........
Conspiracy theories would be a distraction to the TRUTH that ZerObama is a Social Engineering-Friend of Terrorists, Racists, Embezzlers and Communists.
Leave them to the looney-left.

re: #114 livefreeor die

We have a moonbat teacher like him at my son's middle school. He doesn't think we should have consequences for bullying because, he claims, it won't work and "We have a generation of people in prison who show that punishment doesn't work." He spit this crap out at an anti-bullying meeting at the school; I thought I was going to lose it. Actually, he and Ayers could be twins-same look on their faces and same Lennon/Lenin glasses.

The only consequences for bullying should be the bully getting his ass kicked by all the kids he bullies. I personally am a fan of sneak attacks, like a rabbit punch to stun and and then a beat down with fists. Like Ralphie in A Christmas Story. After Teleprompter Jesus is in office will I be able to say Christmas?

re: #61 Outrider

"Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country," he (Ayers) said.

Heh- that's what OJ thought too asshole. Just wait, you'll get yours....

/Karma's a b*tch

Is it me or do those walls around him seem to be closing in on him. Perhaps a hidden metaphor that not even he thought of? If we are lucky those same walls will come tumbling down on his presidential cohort.

How can a country that spent 40 years fighting against communism be on the verge of electing one? It boggles the mind.

re: #136 Sharmuta

"They're friends. So what?"

"I assume that the Obama campaign will correct this vicious right-wing smear. They're not friends: Ayers is just a guy who lives in Obama's neighborhood. "

Twice. In different cities.

re: #128 Geepers

livefreeor die (#114),

So did you walk up, push him to the ground and then laugh?

LOL! Damn, why didn't I think of that? As it was, I was having morning sickness and was not in any mood to hear this crap. If I had done it, I'm sure he would have demanded punishment in that case since it involved HIM. Moonbats have special clauses to all their rules.

re: #135 annakita

What can we do, or how can we take back the colleges and universities? This may sound like a lame question, but since I want my children/grandchildren educated, what can I do?

Send them my way.

re: #125 RTLM

Doesn't he know this stuff is out there? Or does "fact" mean something else in demoland?

re: #137 victor_yugo

They were studying Russian for a reason, obviously. Perhaps to discover the subtlties in Leon Trotsky's writings.

re: #131 jaunte

Don't see anything about Yoga there but it still could be her.

re: #89 madmama

As I said in another thread, as a mother, I've been thinking about Obama's childhood.
His mother used to wake him up at 4:00 am to study. I asked a bunch of friends last night if they knew of ANYONE who woke their kids up that early to study. Of course nobody knew of anyone and thought that was strange.
Then he's shipped off to Indonesia (to study Islam? and get indoctrinated in some other ways)....then back to Hawaii without his mother (what mother would do this?), then to mentor with Frank Davis, afterwards to meet Khalid Al Mansoor and be sponsored by Prince Alaweed (sp?) to college, off to Pakistan with two Muslim roommates....only to be hooked up with Ayers later in life.
It's like a Clancy novel....only it's true.
Obama's whole story is one sordid pack of lies/nefarious associations/omissions etc.
Sarah needs to hammer this home and I've been emailing McCain's web site every day, 5 times a day on this issue!
Maybe they are listening.

funny you should say this, I sent my daughter a long note this morning with many of these same thoughts. After reading the book "The Obama Nation", it was very clear why the man is the way he is. No father figure in his life. A mother that was a free spirit and left him to be raised by grandparents that didn't know how to deal with a biracial child that had no interaction with any others that "looked" like him. Even in quotes from his own books, he says what an impact that had on his early child development. It was natural for him to cling to the first radical that gave him the attention he so craved. And they have used each other every since.

re: #141 CommonCents

Is it me or do those walls around him seem to be closing in on him. Perhaps a hidden metaphor that not even he thought of? If we are lucky those same walls will come tumbling down on his presidential cohort.

How can a country that spent 40 years fighting against communism be on the verge of electing one? It boggles the mind.

We stopped fighting when the Berlin wall fell. The communists didn't.

re: #89 madmama

As I said in another thread, as a mother, I've been thinking about Obama's childhood.
His mother used to wake him up at 4:00 am to study. I asked a bunch of friends last night if they knew of ANYONE who woke their kids up that early to study. Of course nobody knew of anyone and thought that was strange.
Then he's shipped off to Indonesia (to study Islam? and get indoctrinated in some other ways)....then back to Hawaii without his mother (what mother would do this?), then to mentor with Frank Davis, afterwards to meet Khalid Al Mansoor and be sponsored by Prince Alaweed (sp?) to college, off to Pakistan with two Muslim roommates....only to be hooked up with Ayers later in life.
It's like a Clancy novel....only it's true.
Obama's whole story is one sordid pack of lies/nefarious associations/omissions etc.
Sarah needs to hammer this home and I've been emailing McCain's web site every day, 5 times a day on this issue!
Maybe they are listening.

Not to add gas to this, but from all that I have read in MSM about Mum- she was totally self absorbed and did not pay much mind to the eudcation of her children- and it was his grandparents that stepped up and got er done. . .

Makes the whole race speech kind of snarky to me. . .thanks for raising me. . .Racist grammy!

re: #140 CIA Reject

Heh- that's what OJ thought too asshole. Just wait, you'll get yours....

/Karma's a b*tch

Heh, that's what I was thinking about.

re: #133 DesertSage

This must be one of William Ayers friends.

Liberal Idiot

ha. I love it.

re: #141 CommonCents

Is it me or do those walls around him seem to be closing in on him. Perhaps a hidden metaphor that not even he thought of? If we are lucky those same walls will come tumbling down on his presidential cohort.

How can a country that spent 40 years fighting against communism be on the verge of electing one? It boggles the mind.

It is like a bloodless Bolshevik Revolution. There are many Americans that want it,& a lot more being duped.

Nihilist Ayers, advising the young not to think, but to act:

Ayers: And the one thing we do know now is that, like then, our government is lying to us…. This is not the big deal, but young people know that the government lies to them routinely. Certainly, if I was looking back and saying what can we do differently, I’d say, “Let’s not be sectarian, let’s not be hierarchical, let’s not split every time we turn around.”

I would say for the young: Don’t be straight jacketed by ideology. Don’t be driven by a structure of ideas. But at the same time, I think we would be, should be, and we should be today, activists. We should open our eyes, see what’s in front of us, and act."
[Link: www.pbs.org...]

re: #146 MrPaulRevere

They were studying Russian for a reason, obviously. Perhaps to discover the subtlties in Leon Trotsky's writings.

So they could then explain them to Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, no doubt.

re: #139 kansas

The only consequences for bullying should be the bully getting his ass kicked by all the kids he bullies. I personally am a fan of sneak attacks, like a rabbit punch to stun and and then a beat down with fists. Like Ralphie in A Christmas Story. After Teleprompter Jesus is in office will I be able to say Christmas?

That's exactly how we handled it in grammar school. We all jumped him while his mother watched on, yelling: "one at time." We beat the snot out him. He was no longer a bully after that.

re: #109 Sharmuta

Ah! Okay- can we find anything on that? It would really blow the "casual acquaintance" thing out of the water.

No. I read it here.

re: #147 Pvt Bin Jammin

She might have a place in Brooklyn, and in Albany. I just don't know.

re: #125 RTLM

Related: Obama runs, can't hide from ACORN

Project Vote

Obama and his media are a cesspool of liars.

re: #151 livefreeor die

Heh, that's what I was thinking about.

GMTA my friend!

OJ finally got his. May this man and his shrew of a wife get theirs. And soon.

Black Panthers on the Weather Underground:

Did he say "mullet heads"? LOL

re: #145 ArmyWife

Doesn't he know this stuff is out there? Or does "fact" mean something else in demoland?

The facts are only the lies that are repeated often. None of this "nonsense" on the internet is true.
/s

re: #130 Midwestprof

Not all universities are hotbeds of radicalism; not all university programs promote anti-Americanism. Much of that PC crap comes from places like Berkley and, especially, Columbia.

Yes, not all, but postmodernism is at essence anti-capitalist, anti-American, and anti-Western, and the underlying premises are accepted by most universities. The difference is the degree of seriousness with which the underlying premises are taken. However, the real answer is to reject the underlying premises, and I'm not really seeing that out there very much if at all.

re: #154 jaunte

A guy I know, who, like me, is a fortysomething former punk rocker and ex-leftist, has a great term for scumbags like Ayers. He calls them "political pedophiles," since they, like child molesters, prey on the young and naive and exploit them for selfish, pathological ends.

re: #154 jaunte

I would say for the young: Don’t be straight jacketed by ideology. Don’t be driven by a structure of ideas.

He should take his own advice, and try actually thinking for a change.

Bernadine Dohrn, convicted felon, is hired by a law school. William Ayers is hired by a state university school of education. The Judiciary should announce that they will refuse to admit to practice before the bar any graduates of Northwestern Law while she is on faculty and school boards should reject the credentials of graduates of the University of Illinois at Chicago while Ayers is on faculty.

re: #144 Midwestprof

Thank you.

First progeny exhibiting an interest in engineering is yours!

WE’RE GONNA CHAIN THE WORLD

We’re gonna spread intolerance
We’re gonna spread oppression
Obama’s gonna chain it
Obama’s gonna blind ‘em

We’re gonna chain it
And rearrange it
We’re gonna chain the world.

re: #121 The Shadow Do

i think props are permitted, Remember during the DEM primary debates in 04 when the douche bag doctor from Vermont pulled a frikkin stethoscope out of his jacket to prove that he knew the most about health care policy?

re: #166 mikalm

A guy I know, who, like me, is a fortysomething former punk rocker and ex-leftist, has a great term for scumbags like Ayers. He calls them "political pedophiles," since they, like child molesters, prey on the young and naive and exploit them for selfish, pathological ends.

Sounds right- the Political pedo's even have an anthem, right the Obama Song. . .

re: #126 Pvt Bin Jammin

Posted this on the last thread but WTH, will post again. I wonder if this is the same Naomi Jaffe that was in the Weather Underground?

Yoga for Obama!
[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

What are the odds?

re: #158 jaunte

Well, I'm going to continue to look into all of them. If it was just a one day class she could have made the trip just to fundraise for the "O".

McCain needs to get the video of Dohrn praising Manson's actions and play it in every market. Every time I read what she said, I feel ill. That would have an impact, along with all the Ayers stuff.

C'mon, John. Spend my money on something that will wake people up!

#138
I haven't been emailing the McCain campaign about my 'conspiracy theory'....only about the nefarious associates Obama has....and that they should take off the gloves and start hammering him about these connections.
I was so happy to hear that Sarah indeed started doing that today.
....I hope and pray that McCain goes for the throat on Tuesday!
I'm also wondering why Sarah is in California today!?
She needs to be in Western Pennsylvania (where my elderly Democrat parents, along with my conservative Dem. relatives are along with the rest of the McCain leaning Dems !) and in Ohio!
Then she needs to go to Virginia, Missouri, Indiana......then back again!
With just a little push, these states could be all theirs!

re: #157 MandyManners

The only thing I've really found on it was Larry Johnson, and he's a moron not to be trusted.

I think this is a important image of the people behind Obama. It fits well with the sound bite of G-D Damn America. Both should become national ads for McCain.

re: #173 MandyManners

I say the odds are pretty good that it's her.

Close Shmose [Jonah Goldberg]

I trust Stan entirely that Obama and Ayers were in fact close. But look: even if they weren't that close it would hardly mean Ayers is insignificant. Anyone who understands politics understands that who a president listens to is relevant. Who will the commander-in-chief let in the room? From what direction will he take advice? Who is on his "team" and who isn't? What's a reasonable argument and what isn't?

Even if Obama personally disliked Ayers and disagreed with his politics in meaningful ways, Obama still found Ayers to be someone worth listening to and working with. Ditto Jeremiah Wright. They were in his tent, not outside it. Ayers and Wright may be more extreme than Obama. Indeed, they surely are. But there is very little evidence in the record that Obama's ideological compass doesn't point in their direction. I don't think Americans should be single issue voters on the Ayers stuff. But I think it is absurd to argue — as the NY Times implicitly does — that this is all meaningless because Obama and Ayers were allegedly less than soulmates.

Again imagine a similar relationship between McCain and an abortion clinic bomber and the Times running a story a month before the election reassuring that it's no big deal because McCain and Mr. Planned Parenthood Bomber weren't "close."

CNN can ES&D.

re: #150 DisturbedEma

Not to add gas to this, but from all that I have read in MSM about Mum- she was totally self absorbed and did not pay much mind to the eudcation of her children- and it was his grandparents that stepped up and got er done. . .

Makes the whole race speech kind of snarky to me. . .thanks for raising me. . .Racist grammy!

Grandpa was a leftist. He hung out with Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii, drinking whiskey & listening to crappy poetry. Grandpa spent a lot of time out of work. Grandma supported Barry, ya know the one that he tossed under the bus.

re: #126 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm updinging, but because I'm hoping some smarty lizard with skillz will look into it.

Might be something to it.

Obama running away from his past is like a twight zone episode when the dead come to reclaim one of their own. He tries to deny it but he does not belong to the world of light.

both of my sisters are fanatical liberals. My brother, my parents and I are conservative as can be. I disconnected from my oldest (insane) sister 8-years ago. I think this year the other one joins her ranks.

She (repeatedly) goes out of her way to tell me how "dangerous" Sarah Palin is.

Last night on a phone call (I made) she said it again. I asked why. She muttered something about "she is just really dangerous". Again, I asked why. She finally said "it is her religion and her church".

Then I said, everyone loves her and admires her (mainly to get her riled).

Then she said that Sarah Palin has no qualifications. I said, she's the Governor of Alaska! My sister says, yeah, Alaska.

Then I pointed out that Sarah Palin has more Executive experience than the other three put together. She said, no she doesn't.

And then, abruptly, she hung up the phone on me.

I am truly embarassed to think she is my own sister.

How can she be so fucking ignorant?

The anti-Ayers

re: #53 Beach Lover

was it a good movie? I want to go see it.

I left the theater not an hour ago. The POV is well worth the time and effort, but objectively (fortunately for the film makers neither the audience, nor the subject matter is objective) it's not a very good film. There are a couple of laughs, mostly visuals, but the main merit, and pleasure, is the merciless drubbing of Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, the ACLU, leftards in general, and Columbia University (academia in general).

One particularly moving scene is near the end, as the Moore character looks out into an audience that is at a support the troops rally(mostly military personnel) and sees a line of troops, in the uniforms and battle gear of their times, all the way back to the Revolutionary War. Gave me a lump in the old throat.

Go see it, it's an OK film, but it's really just a great idea, poorly executed. But worth it anyway. Hits some raw nerves. Sure beats anything Michael Moore ever did.

Ayers was a fugitive for years with his wife, fellow radical Bernadine Dohrn. But after surrendering in 1980, the charges against Ayers were dropped because of prosecutorial misconduct.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

re: #172 DisturbedEma

I didn't even think of that chilling video in connection with the term, but yeah -- that's a perfect symbol of what he meant.

re: #182 Noam Sayin'

but = just

dangit

re: #109 Sharmuta

Ah! Okay- can we find anything on that? It would really blow the "casual acquaintance" thing out of the water.

The casual connection is claim is preposterous. Obama and Ayers ran a non-profit that dispersed $100 million of Annenberg dough to brainwash Chicago children in schools, instead of teaching them. I think nobody's paying attention because they can't believe it. Here's the beginning of one article that lays it out:

Stanley Kutz has been documenting it:

Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools
By Stanley Kurtz
Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Wall Street Journal
Publication Date: September 23, 2008

Despite having authored two autobiographies, Barack Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.

The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking through them.
...
The Daley documents show that Mr. Ayers sat as an ex-officio member of the board Mr. Obama chaired through CAC's first year. He also served on the board's governance committee with Mr. Obama, and worked with him to craft CAC bylaws. Mr. Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Mr. Obama. Mr. Ayers spoke for the Collaborative before the board. Likewise, Mr. Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the Collaborative.

Sage?

re: #175 livefreeor die

McCain needs to get the video of Dohrn praising Manson's actions and play it in every market. Every time I read what she said, I feel ill. That would have an impact, along with all the Ayers stuff.

C'mon, John. Spend my money on something that will wake people up!

Sorry. That dog won't hunt. NYT and others have shown Obama and Ayers didn't associate, and who is Dohrn? Not even the same name as Ayers.////// That ahole Joe Klein will write about how McCain is fighting a dirty campaign.

#97 Typicalwhitey

My point exactly.

If Gov Palin keeps on the attack, the MSM will be forced to cover the issue of his dubious associates.

It won't matter that all the usual shills (pundits, talking heads) poo poo any of BHOs 'past' connections, there are just too many really killer questions that BHO has never been asked for the entire rogues gallery to get off scott free.

Something about the preponderance of evidence - after all, the civil count found OJ fit the guilty pattern even if the glove didn't.

re: #190 Irene NYC

Thanks, Irene!

re: #182 Noam Sayin'

Thanks. I'm leaving for dinner in a little while so probably won't have much more time to dig into it tonight.

re: #195 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks. I'm leaving for dinner in a little while so probably won't have much more time to dig into it tonight.

Lookee here --------------->

Ooh, yummy-more Barry and terrorists stuff at the next thread!

re: #181 opnion

Grandma supported Barry,

You mean the typical white woman? Supported him like you and me gonna be supporting him and his when he ascends to the throne..

re: #184 windhorse

I hear you. It's also aggrevating when you can't get common sense thru to someone like that. Makes you wonder how they arrive at that point.

re: #187 Sharmuta

Shar, his father, Tom Ayres, also helped that little shit, Bill, get out of the charges as well. Tom was left leaning as well, even as ComEd's CEO.

Bill Ayers is a boil on the face of American culture. Bill Ayers doesn't deserve his freedom or his position in life. He is a phony who deserves to be locked up in a dark, cold place.

Yoo-hoo.... Linda.... Bill Ayers is dangerous.

re: #185 onslow

The anti-Ayers

We need more Rick Monday's in this country!

Noam?

Was this Obama's flag that Ayers is tramping on, by any chance?

McCain should ask Barry what he thinks of the jihadist terrorists on trial for planning to attack Ft. Dix.

Then ask why he associated with a domestic terrorist- like Ayers- whose own gang was planning the exact same attack... just sooner.

re: #169 annakita

Thank you.

First progeny exhibiting an interest in engineering is yours!

I've said this here before, but it bears repeating. We actually get a lot of parents who bring junior or little miss to visit us during various open houses. When we manage to convince mom & dad that we're not like Ayers or Churchill or other moonbat profs in left-wing programs, then we have a pretty good chance of getting the student into the program. Mom & dad still have a lot of sway on junior and seniors in HS. They feel that they are leaving junior in good care for the next 4 years.

MO huskin' NE's corn!

/31-7 1st 1/2

re: #184 windhorse

both of my sisters are fanatical liberals. My brother, my parents and I are conservative as can be. I disconnected from my oldest (insane) sister 8-years ago. I think this year the other one joins her ranks.

She (repeatedly) goes out of her way to tell me how "dangerous" Sarah Palin is.

Last night on a phone call (I made) she said it again. I asked why. She muttered something about "she is just really dangerous". Again, I asked why. She finally said "it is her religion and her church".

Then I said, everyone loves her and admires her (mainly to get her riled).

Then she said that Sarah Palin has no qualifications. I said, she's the Governor of Alaska! My sister says, yeah, Alaska.

Then I pointed out that Sarah Palin has more Executive experience than the other three put together. She said, no she doesn't.

And then, abruptly, she hung up the phone on me.

I am truly embarassed to think she is my own sister.

How can she be so fucking ignorant?

She may be in deep denial and throwing up a defense, defending herself with regard to a decision she made years ago with regard to a pregnancy. To attack Sarah is to protect that decision.

I can't help it. I just keep thinking of Obama as the Manchurian candidate, a modernized version of the Laurence Harvey character. I just don't undertsand how these past associations keep getting ignored, liberal media or no. In fact, I find the Reverend Wright connection even more disturbing than the Ayers association. Among my liberal friends and Obama supporters NO ONE has been able to explain how this guy sat for 20 years in the pews of an anti-American, anti-semitic lunatic and said not a word. When O'reilly interviewed Obama on the matter he said with great solemnity that he had never heard any of this stuff when he attended the church. Who am I, Joe Schmuck? How can anyone believe these limitless lies?

BAGHDAD — The U.S. military says it has killed a senior Al Qaeda in Iraq leader suspected of masterminding deadly bombings in Baghdad.

Saturday's statement identifies the man killed as Mahir Ahmad Mahmud Judu' al-Zubaydi, also known as Abu Assad or Abu Rami.

For Mr. Ayers, I would put down the Bible and gun that I cling to. I would want both hands free to pummel him into submission.

I can't seem to bring up any Ronald Reagan videos. Seems they have all been tossed into a dust bin.

Help!

Today's online shopping purchases

*500 rounds of JHP pistol ammo for the primary and the backup
*ankle holster (see backup above)
*1 USMC Kabar Fighting Knife, just cause I've always wanted one.
*3 packs- silhouette targets

Toss in a welcome home Patriot Guard mission bringing a airman back to his family from the sandbox and it was a pretty good day.

Now, if SC would just lose the game they're playing.

Everytime I see this picture it gets me so fucking angry, that I want to tie this Ayers bastard, between those two buildings, say about three stories up.

Nothing much, say for about 2 months or so. Make him taller, wouldn't it?

re: #135 annakita

What can we do, or how can we take back the colleges and universities? This may sound like a lame question, but since I want my children/grandchildren educated, what can I do?

Two cents from someone who'se been teaching college for a couple of decades at several different institutions:
(1) Educate the kids before they go to college. Make sure they have studied informal and some formal logic so that they can recognize good and faulty reasoning. Ground them in the old classics, if you can.
(2) Do not send them to a "prestigious" school....or to notoriously leftwing universities. They are not worth the money and are hotbeds of radicalism. (If the kid is very ambitious, s/he will go on to graduate school and at that point can go for name schools, if desired.)
(3) Check to see if the college you're interested in has an active conservative presence. Ask current members of Young Republicans, YAF, or other conservative groups to give you the truth about the school.

re: #209 Geepers

BAGHDAD — The U.S. military says it has killed a senior Al Qaeda in Iraq leader suspected of masterminding deadly bombings in Baghdad.
Saturday's statement identifies the man killed as Mahir Ahmad Mahmud Judu' al-Zubaydi, also known as Abu Assad or Abu Rami.

Another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust.

Cleansing the Earth one terrorist at a time.

re: #184 windhorse

She sounds like my sister. I remember last summer during a bbq my sis had a little too much beer and was ranting that Bush should be assassinated, Iraq was another vietnam, blah blah. It was truly embarrassing.

re: #184 windhorse

Don't get upset over it, some things just ARE. Que sera sera and all that.

This pic should be on billboards accross this country!

Bill Ayers---snotty rich boy, bomb throwing dilettante, tenured communist, privileged America-hater living the good life while trampling the flag.

re: #177 Sharmuta

The only thing I've really found on it was Larry Johnson, and he's a moron not to be trusted.

Are you saying Larry doesn't have the Whitey tape?
What a crock...He does run a pretty powerful PUMA site...
If we..on this side of the isle..said what some of the PUMA sites have posted about Obama..Well you know...ugly..
We will win this election
We will win it with class
We will have wartime leadership
We will have a future woman president on our ticket
We will bring TRUE reform
*******************
a little note to the MSM..Sarah won middle america...How do you plan on spinning that election night?

re: #209 Geepers

Saw that earlier.

Every man's death diminishes me.

KIDDING! WOOT!

re: #184 windhorse

both of my sisters are fanatical liberals. My brother, my parents and I are conservative as can be. I disconnected from my oldest (insane) sister 8-years ago. I think this year the other one joins her ranks.

She (repeatedly) goes out of her way to tell me how "dangerous" Sarah Palin is.

Last night on a phone call (I made) she said it again. I asked why. She muttered something about "she is just really dangerous". Again, I asked why. She finally said "it is her religion and her church".

No problem with Obama's church, of course.

He projects his hatred of his parents and his place in life onto the country, because he feels guilty having what his family's toil has provided him. He does not deserve what he has in life, but he has to reconcile his self-loathing onto the country that made it possible.

He's a pathetic asshole.

re: #184 windhorse

both of my sisters are fanatical liberals. My brother, my parents and I are conservative as can be. I disconnected from my oldest (insane) sister 8-years ago. I think this year the other one joins her ranks.

She (repeatedly) goes out of her way to tell me how "dangerous" Sarah Palin is.

Last night on a phone call (I made) she said it again. I asked why. She muttered something about "she is just really dangerous". Again, I asked why. She finally said "it is her religion and her church".

Then I said, everyone loves her and admires her (mainly to get her riled).

Then she said that Sarah Palin has no qualifications. I said, she's the Governor of Alaska! My sister says, yeah, Alaska.

Then I pointed out that Sarah Palin has more Executive experience than the other three put together. She said, no she doesn't.

And then, abruptly, she hung up the phone on me.

I am truly embarassed to think she is my own sister.

How can she be so fucking ignorant?

Reminds me of my moonbat sister who last week during the bailout mess said, "This is good for America. They have to stop being the country who is rich. It's time to give someone else a chance. It's okay if we lose some power."

My head began to explode!

re: #131 jaunte

'Where are they now.'

"Naomi Jaffe
A former member of the Weather Underground, Jaffe currently lives in Albany, New York, and is executive director of a foundation that supports women's activism."
[Link: www.pbs.org...]

Here is an essay by jaffe not too long ago..a must read, of course she has been pretty busy teaching Yoga and sending the $$$ to the messiah.

[Link: www.upstatefilms.org...]

Quote "my generation was profoundly influenced by Marxist-Leninist writers of color -Cabral, Mao, C.L.R. James, DuBois, Ho Chi Minh, Che, and others"

I wonder what she means by others? Obama? Chavez? Castro?

Thank you Charles! This photo needs to kept out in the wide OPEN for all to see (photo shot at the same time Ayers & Obama were on the CAC board. MSM, reports that Ayers & Obama were both members of the Chicago Annenburg Challenge board. Spare us any more detail moon streamers. Ayers was the founder & co-chair of the foundation. Obama was the first to serve as the chairman of the board for the foundation. According to Stanley Kurtz "During Obama’s time as Annenberg board chairman, Ayers’s own education projects received substantial funding. Indeed, during its first year, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge struggled with significant concerns about possible conflicts of interest. With a writ to aid Chicago’s public schools, the Annenberg challenge played a deeply political role in Chicago’s education wars, and as Annenberg board chairman, Obama clearly aligned himself with Ayers’s radical views on education issues." Nothing but BS for the MSM to portray their relationship as a casual one at most. Don't look behind the curtain folks.

re: #215 CommonCents

Can't we sell carbon credits based on each dead terrorist? They gotta be worth something and they do add up after a while. If I can get enough of them I can drive a Hummer without any guilt.

Just saw an American Carol. Great and a must see.

Looks like Obama and Osama both had friends who attacked the Pentagon.

Where's a good twoofer when you need one?

re: #225 El Lizardo mejicano

Absolutely NO ONE with an adequate number of functioning brain cells has EVER been influenced by Marxist-Leninist writers, except to reject their asinine world view and pomposity.

Here is another traitor trying to help the messiah get elected:

9/26/2008: Intel News Brief: "Progressives for Obama" headed by Weathermen Terrorist Mark Rudd:

One of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist
organization is a signatory to an independent organization acting to
ensure the election of Sen. Barack Obama.

The group in question, Progressives for Obama, also includes among its
ranks many former members of the 1960s radical organization Students
for a Democratic Society, from which the Weathermen splintered, as
well as current and former members of other radical organizations,
such as the Communist Party USA and the Black Radical Congress.

In its creed, first published in March in the Nation magazine, the
Progressives for Obama founders state their organization descended
from the "proud tradition of independent social movements that have
made America a more just and democratic country."

Progressives for Obama stated it can help the Illinois senator's
ascent to highest office by contributing funds, using the Internet to
reach "millions of swing voters;" defending Obama against negative
attacks and making its agenda known at the Democratic National
Convention.

"Progressives can make a difference in close primary races like
Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Oregon and Puerto Rico, and in the
November general election," the founders state.

The founders stress it is crucial to form a grassroots leftist
movement to ensure Obama does not stray too far to the center,
claiming other grassroots liberal movements have successfully
pressured U.S. presidents into creating new policy:

It was the industrial strikes and radical organizers in the 1930s who
pushed Roosevelt to support the New Deal. It was the civil rights and
student movements that brought about voting rights legislation under
Lyndon Johnson and propelled Eugene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy's
antiwar campaigns. It was the original Earth Day that led Richard
Nixon to sign environmental laws.

And it will be the Obama movement that will make it necessary and
possible to end the war in Iraq, renew our economy with a populist
emphasis, and confront the challenge of global warming. We should not
only keep the pressure on [Obama] but also connect the issues that
Obama has made central to his campaign into an overarching progressive
vision."
Among the signatories and endorsers to Progressives for Obama is Mark
Rudd, one of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist
organization. Rudd worked closely for years with Weathermen terrorist
William Ayers, whose association with Obama has generated controversy
for the presidential candidate.

Rudd originally was a top member of the Students for a Democratic
Society, or SDS, leading the famed 1968 Columbia University strikes in
which hundreds of students seized several university buildings. He
also served as spokesman for the strikes, attracting international
media attention.

In 1968, Rudd traveled with the SDS to Cuba, defying U.S. travel bans,
where he says he was heavily influenced by the legacy of Che Guevara
and by Cuban-style revolution. When he returned to the U.S., Rudd
advocated for Columbia's chapter of the SDS to carry out militant,
aggressive action, but he was turned down.

A bio published on his own website explains Rudd worked to form the
Weathermen as a radical alternative to the SDS and for white Americans
to eject their "white skin privilege" and begin "armed struggle"
against the U.S. government.

The Weathermen took responsibility for bombing U.S. governmental
buildings in the 1970s.

Rudd went underground in 1970, when a bomb exploded in a townhouse in
Greenwich Village in New York City, killing three of his comrades. He
lived for seven and a half years in hiding as a fugitive, finally
surrendering in 1977, facing only low-level state charges after
federal charges against Weathermen leaders had been dropped. He
resurfaced as a teacher in New Mexico.

The other half:

As late as 2005, Rudd wrote an editorial in the Los Angeles Times
lamenting the state of the antiwar movement in the U.S.

"What's hard to understand – given the revelations about the rush to
war, the use of torture and the loss of more than 2,000 soldiers – is
why the antiwar movement isn't further along than it is. Given that
President Bush is now talking about Iraq as only one skirmish in an
unlimited struggle against a global Islamic enemy, a struggle
comparable to the titanic, 40-year Cold War against communism,
shouldn't a massive critique of the global war on terrorism already be
underway?" he wrote.

Rudd condemned the Weathermen's decision to embark on an "armed-
struggle," calling it "stupid" since the violent acts led to the
group's demise.

Rudd didn't condemn the terrorism itself, only its contribution to the
downfall of the Weathermen.

Rudd declined to speak on the record, explaining an interview
may spark more Weathermen controversy for Obama.

Rudd is just one of scores of radicals involved with Progressives for
Obama.

The group was founded by four individuals with ties to extremist
groups:

Tom Hayden, a former state senator who was a founder and principal
organizer of the SDS. Discover the Networks notes Hayden, previously
married to actress Jane Fonda, traveled many times to North Vietnam,
Czechoslovakia and Paris to strategize with communist North Vietnamese
and Viet Cong leaders on how to defeat America's anti-communist
efforts.

Bill Fletcher, a former Maoist and current leader of Democratic
Socialists of America or DSA. The New Zeal blog notes Fletcher was
also a founder of the Black Radical Congress, closely linked to the
Communist Party USA, which advocated for "progressive social justice,
racial equality and economic justice goals within the U.S.

Barbara Ehenreich, an honorary chairman of DSA who was formerly active
in antiwar movements in which some notorious radicals took part.

Actor Danny Glover, a member of the Black Students Union, who has
visited Venezuela, making guest appearances on President Hugo Chavez's
television and radio talk show. He reportedly has accepted loans of
about $20 million from the Venezuelan government to make a movie about
a Haitian revolutionary leader.
The Progressives for Obama webmaster is Carl Davidson, a former vice
president of the Students for a Democratic Society, who has traveled
to Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro.

The signatories and endorsers of the Obama activist group, listed on
the Progressives website, include scores of well known communist,
socialist and anarchist activists and former SDS members.

A woman answering telephones for the Obama campaign said she could not
comment.

Wow, next post pulled due to doubt.

Charles, even when you're wrong, you're right in saying so.

re: #213 Elcid

Does anybody know who often the word "bastard" is used on LGF. I'm like Captain Oveur and Roger Murdock all of the time.

"Huh?"

Debate - Clinton and Obama - William Ayers Question

"... So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is*, is somehow.. somehow their ideas could be attributed to me... I think the American people are smarter than that. They're not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn't." - BHO

* Obama-Mama was a Marxist?

re: #205 Midwestprof

Not knowing how bad upper education had become, I was pleased to have one daughter majoring in Biology at St. John's (NY) and another in Political Science at UNCG. Sooo disappointing. Come to think of it, even some of their high school texts and studies (in NC) would not have been my choice.

While they ponder an MS or MBA, how do I go about making recommendations? (I should have guessed, but thinking it an isolated instance, even my NYC college from 40 yrs ago has gone from religious affiliation, to rejection of religious affiliation, to unaffiliated leftist training ground.)

I wish, along with academic ratings, there would be a political rating of the professors. Lacking that, maybe I should look for schools that offer Latin and Ancient Greek courses!

If you Hate America that much, please leave and go to some commie paradise. I won't feel sorry for you when you end up in jail and tortured for dissent.

re: #44 wright1

There is a scene in "American Carol" where George Patton, JFK and O'Reilly start punching Moore in the face, as for Ayers, well, when I see that picture I am reminded of that scene!

I don't watch O'Reilly anymore, but I do have to admit that the line "I just like slapping you" made me LOL. :)

Did Bill Ayers write Dreams From My Father? Very likely.

Did Bill Ayers Write Obama’s “Dreams”? (Part I)

Did Bill Ayers Write Obama’s “Dreams”? (Part II: Deconstructing the Text)

Did Bill Ayers Write Obama’s “Dreams”? (Part III: Why it Matters )

More Proof Ayers Ghosted
Obama's "Dreams"

Charles..

There is a much greater connection as far as I can tell, the traitors from "Weather Underground" are alive and kicking, it seems to me like they are all somehow helping the messiah get elected and needs to be taken more seriously, this is the closest they will ever be to destroy America, that was their ultimate goal.

Mark Rudd, Naomi Jaffe, Ayers, Dohrn and many more.

re: #53 Beach Lover

was it a good movie? I want to go see it.

It's a Zucker film. Think Airplane! Naked Gun, Hot Shots, films like that. The humor is silly, but fun. There are moments that will honestly move you--what "Michael Malone" sees when he looks out at the crowd at Madison Square Garden, and Jon Voight's turn as George Washington.

Plus, it's just _nice_ to see a film that's unabashedly fun and positive.

Great cinema? No. But you'll feel good when you leave the theater.

I saw it in a theater with about 60 people, most over 40. There was applause at the end.

re: #220 HoosierHoops

Are you saying Larry doesn't have the Whitey tape?
What a crock...He does run a pretty powerful PUMA site...
If we..on this side of the isle..said what some of the PUMA sites have posted about Obama..Well you know...ugly..
We will win this election
We will win it with class
We will have wartime leadership
We will have a future woman president on our ticket
We will bring TRUE reform
*******************
a little note to the MSM..Sarah won middle america...How do you plan on spinning that election night?

clarify for me please:
you think McCain/Palin should play nice and expect to win ?

re: #237 mattm

If you Hate America that much, please leave and go to some commie paradise. I won't feel sorry for you when you end up in jail and tortured for dissent.

My brother sent my son a tee shirt before he left "I'm off to protect your right to protest. . .with my life"

sniff

Ayers you g-ddamn fucking son-of-a-bitch

get off my flag.

re: #242 Adrenalyn

clarify for me please:
you think McCain/Palin should play nice and expect to win ?

As a down and dirty demorecoverat. . .I can say that it appears "class" and good taste get you no where-

You know my dream interview?

Skankie C--ric asks Sarah Palin again why she did not get a passport until she was 40 something and Sarh replies

Because unlike the "anywhere but in America" tour by Obama, the problems and issues facing the American economy and the American people are right here. . .so while you were smearing my daughter and making horrific statements about my son, you must have missed that part of the job description. I think the BETTER question is why not having a passport matters. . .and why I should pretend to like you when you are clearly disrespecting me and holding me in contempt- Fuck you this sham is over- G-d Bless the American People. . .

Obama worked with Ayers from 1995 on the board of the Annenburg Challenge. No doubt he was aware of the article in 2001 about his "friend" not repenting for his terrorist past and his picture plastered on the front cover standing on the American flag...the symbol of what is America that accompanies her soldiers on their last trip before that final rest.

So while Obama might claim to be only 8 when Bill Ayers did what he did...and he condemns it now when asked....I haven't heard that he condemned that photo taken when Obama was 39 or so. Thing is, Obama doesn't think what Ayers did was radical...because he doesn't know what being a real American is all about.

But I think the American people will not stand for it. We just need to get the word out to everyone and anyone who will listen. I don't think it is too late....it is never to late to try.

re: #244 Ojoe

Ayers you g-ddamn fucking son-of-a-bitch

get off my flag.

Freedom's price seems SO high right now. . .Love to my son Daniel, in Iraq now. . .

re: #135 annakita

An engineering school tends not to be so crazy, after all engineers deal with reality and have to make things that work.

re: #248 Ojoe

An engineering school tends not to be so crazy, after all engineers deal with reality and have to make things that work.

True that!

re: #184 windhorse

Again, I asked why. She finally said "it is her religion and her church".

That is the truth as people with no faith, and compromised thus, are very afraid in the presence of someone with real faith.

re: #214 wolfie

Your points are so good, they should be part of a program for parents looking to find a good education for their children.

As to what is out there now, not everyone can work with it to their satisfaction. Looking forward, what I would like to see is a way to consolidate our concerns, as opposed to just talking or blogging about them with each other.

The leftists have paid attention, worked at it, and are successful. Can we?

With luck, I'll never personally witness such an encounter. The reaction would be quick and violent, and there'd be no regrets.

re: #251 annakita

Your points are so good, they should be part of a program for parents looking to find a good education for their children.

As to what is out there now, not everyone can work with it to their satisfaction. Looking forward, what I would like to see is a way to consolidate our concerns, as opposed to just talking or blogging about them with each other.

The leftists have paid attention, worked at it, and are successful. Can we?

I don't think it is a matter of paying attention- they have been alowed to set the tone. . .they have begun to write the "rules" bitter clingers to religion and guns. . .and a whoop from the left about the clueless ones. . .it is not about paying attention to what they are saying. . .it is about paying attention to what the impact is on discourse and rights. . .and how the meanings have changed.

I never thought that age and military service would EVER be anything but a plus. . . for a leader

re: #252 irongrampa

With luck, I'll never personally witness such an encounter. The reaction would be quick and violent, and there'd be no regrets.

Amen

re: #245 DisturbedEma

indeed
and an UPDING for you dear poster

there is no such thing as a "fair fight" anymore

when we were kids, you did not pull hair, kick, bite, scratch, etc.
you fought with hands and the winner was gracious
the loser was respectful

and it all ended there

no more, the sooner one side goes nuclear, the winner emerges

but that's just me
wannabe "Secretary Of Offense"

re: #255 Adrenalyn

indeed
and an UPDING for you dear poster

there is no such thing as a "fair fight" anymore

when we were kids, you did not pull hair, kick, bite, scratch, etc.
you fought with hands and the winner was gracious
the loser was respectful

and it all ended there

no more, the sooner one side goes nuclear, the winner emerges

but that's just me
wannabe "Secretary Of Offense"

Oh, that would be PERFECT for me. . .I accept with humble respect. . .:)

Wasn't this asshole pardoned by Bill Clinton? Why does that stick in my mind?

Did anyone else do a double take over this?

McCain is bad because he servs on the Senate with GWB and is of the same party Bad bad bad LOOK who he associates with

Obama CHOOSES Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, et. al. and it is something else. . .WTF!

Ah....

What's the Clinton connection?

One former member of the Weather Underground, Linda Sue Evans, was in 1985 sentenced to five years in prison carrying a gun and for harboring a fugitive -- Marilyn Buck, who drove the getaway car during the Black Liberation Army's notorious Brink's armored car robbery in Nanuet, NY, where a Brink's guard and two police officers were killed. Evans was then tried for previous crimes. She got five years for conspiring to bomb the U.S. Capitol in 1983, since she had helped forge IDs for others involving in the bombing. She also was sentenced to 30 years on gun charges -- for using false identification to buy three rifles, a pistol, and ammo.

Evans served 16 years, but in January 2001 her sentence was commuted by then-President Bill Clinton.

Another former member, Susan Rosenberg was in 1984 caught in possession of 740 pounds of dynamite intended for use in terrorist attacks. She was sentenced to 58 years in prison. Rosenberg was also allegedly involved in the Brink's robbery.

In 2001, then-President Bill Clinton commuted her sentence, freeing her, in an action widely covered at the time as a pardon.

Asked today if Sen. Clinton thought it was wrong for her husband to free Evans and Rosenberg, a Clinton campaign spokesman refused to answer the question.

"The difference here is that Bill Ayers hosted an event for Senator Obama at his home when he was running for state senator," Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer said. "I can tell you that neither Linda Evans or Susan Rosenberg hosted an event for her, and I think that's why the question becomes relevant."

Singer added that, "Bill Ayers is unrepentant of what he did…and that is a difference, of course, between Linda Evans and Susan Rosenberg."

But when Evans was released after Bill Clinton pardoned her, she told the Austin American-Statesman, "I'm not repentant. That's for sure. I wouldn't go about it the same (violent) way." But "we still need solutions, and we still need justice just as badly as we ever did."

re: #257 johnny_t