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Open | Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:59:00 pm PDT
The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.
— P. J. O’Rourke
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Open | Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:59:00 pm PDT
The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.
— P. J. O’Rourke
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Karridine Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:01:15pm |
Like Shrek's donkey... talking ain't the magic, its getting him to shut up!
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:01:53pm |
The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.
I prefer gridlock to bipartisanship. When they are all smiling at the press conference, you know its bad.
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Karridine Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:03:57pm |
Well, now its put up or shut up time for We, the People, in our never-ending struggle to choose a just and righteous government for America...
Volunteer! Take the McCain/Palin message to other Americans! NOW! :D
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:04:15pm |
I often find myself thinking that it's time for a Million Armed Man march on Washington. Not literally, of course, but just get a million 2nd Amendment supporters to march past all the big white columned buildings.
Not with any particular agenda in mind, really... Just to let them know we're here, and we're watching, and we're irritated.
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Ringo the Gringo Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:04:22pm |
Good evening all.
I was at Sarah Palin's speech today in southern California.
She was great!
I also spent a few hours with the moonbats...Man oh man, they really hate that woman.
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rawmuse Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:05:06pm |
Bay Area Lizards, Sarah Palin arrives in Burlingame on Sunday morning 9 am, Burlingame Hyatt. Lets all show up and support her. There will be plenty of protesters, we need to counter them.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:05:44pm |
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:06:28pm |
I say repeal the 17th amendment and return Senate elections to the State Legislatures. That will solve a lot of the problem.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:06:44pm |
Repost but I think it's big news that's gotten over looked in the election coverage. That scum sucking traitor Adam Gadahn is apparently and unfortunately still alive. He released a video Saturday morning. I t seems authentic and current. From CNNAsia
American al Qaeda member Adam Gadahn appeared in a video posted on the Internet on Saturday, focusing on Pakistan, with references to the U.S. economic meltdown and fighting in Kashmir.
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:07:17pm |
re: #11 Neo Con since 9-11
There was a thread here about that.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:07:49pm |
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:08:32pm |
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:09:55pm |
re: #12 Mich-again
Oops sorry you are correct. Don't know how I missed that.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:10:57pm |
re: #6 Ringo the Gringo
I also spent a few hours with the moonbats...Man oh man, they really hate that woman.
Is there a word that goes beyond mere "hate"? Because she inspires a reaction in some people that's just unbelievable. She's a great barometer, because it's amazing how supposedly intelligent people will fall all over themselves to cry about how she's dumb, unqualified, yadda yadda, even when she comes across looking good in direct side-by-side comparison to a possibly brain-damaged career committee chairman who makes shit up from whole cloth on the fly.
So why is a normal woman who runs a family, a town, and then a state, "unqualified" (despite all the Dem crowing about how they want to be concerned about "real people") but a plagiarizing insider bench jockey who can't even keep his stories straight, is a non-story? Oh yes, monumental double standards, and a media-industrial complex serving as a propaganda arm of the opposing ticket. Silly me.
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NY Nana Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:11:10pm |
Off to sleep. Two grandparents taken down by a very busy 2-year old grandson! ;) But we loved every second of it!
G'nite, Lizards. Sweet dreams, and may we all dream of what will become a reality on Nov. 4: the January 20th 2009 Inauguration of President John McCain and VP Sarah Palin!
Whoops! Forgot the Sec. of State, John Bolton!
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DesertSage Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:11:41pm |
The dumbest woman on earth.
[Link: break.com...]
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leftover54 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:12:59pm |
OT ? Can you be "OT" on an "open thread" ? Forgetting my etiquette - anyhow, I posted this already on a "dead thread":
While I applaud Sean Hannitys effort to expose all of this tomorrow night, I can't help but think
"who's mind is it going to change ?". His people see this as a career enhancer and thats how it resonates in his neck of the woods among his supporters etc., Its not like the Kos (spit) sh*t for brains moon bats are going to watch and think "Oh ? He's friends with a guy that steps on the American Flag, wants to kill cops, soldiers ...gee, I better re think my vote !". They'll watch Hannity and cheer their guys (Ayers/O'Bama) ! Hopefully there are enough fence sitters/un decideds that haven't a clue 'bout any of this but I'm not holding my breath.
I bought a six pack of VHS tapes today to tape Sean's show tomorrow evening ( I know, DVD, TiVO whatever - I know just about everyone has a VHS player though, not sure about the newer stuff - oh, you have to keep reading !) so I can make copies and send them out to 6 people I know that are undecided or just plain old need a "wake up call". Plus, I've e-mailed EVERYONE in my
address book to remind them about tomorrows show.
If they tell 6 people that tell 6 people and so on and so on.... (what the hell commercial was that ?). If anyone has anymore ideas on how to help turn these poll numbers around please let me know !
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Dar ul Harb Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:13:32pm |
re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor
Well, they're lucky we've still mostly got jobs. Screw that one up, and there's a lot of angry folks with a lot of time on their hands...
(Again, good night.)
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LeePro Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:16:59pm |
re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor
I often find myself thinking that it's time for a Million Armed Man march on Washington. Not literally, of course, but just get a million 2nd Amendment supporters to march past all the big white columned buildings.
Not with any particular agenda in mind, really... Just to let them know we're here, and we're watching, and we're
irritatedPISSED.
There.
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redc1c4 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:17:49pm |
i lurves me some PJ......
Remember, your body needs 6 to 8 glasses of fluid daily. Straight up or on the rocks.
O'Rourke, P.J.
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DesertSage Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:18:36pm |
You know, sometimes the guy who's all flashy, the one with the cool moves, the one who's the crowd favorite...just gets his clock cleaned in the end.
You got that, Mr. Obama?
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:20:47pm |
re: #16 Pawn of the Oppressor
it's amazing how supposedly intelligent people will fall all over themselves to cry about how she's dumb, unqualified, yadda yadda, even when she comes across looking good
IMO Here are few of the reasons for that.
1) The BDS crowd needs a new focal point and for them, McCain doesn't work.
2) Lots of women have a problem with jealousy of other women. Especially with smarter, prettier, and more successful women.
3) Lots of sheeple believe everything they see from the MSM.
4) Lots of Libs are sewer dwellers by nature.
Add them all up and its probably half of the Dem base.
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spidly Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:21:30pm |
re: #22 Racer X
This guy kicks ass.
here's his page with all of them
machosauceproduction
and another good video though old i think
Bob Parks black history month
from
black and right
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Racer X Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:22:16pm |
re: #25 DesertSage
You know, sometimes the guy who's all flashy, the one with the cool moves, the one who's the crowd favorite...just gets his clock cleaned in the end.
[Link: ca.youtube.com...]
You got that, Mr. Obama?
LOL!
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leftover54 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:23:25pm |
re: #16 Pawn of the Oppressor
I'm hopin' she doesn't become a victim of her own success.
I've noticed that I hear her name waaaay too much...as much as I love this lady (as in "admire") I'm starting to flinch when I hear her name on the TV/radio every 10 seconds. I know she was somewhat out of the picture until the debate but ever since ...whhhheeeeewwwwww ! There is such a thing as over exposure/saturation/"jumped the shark" and I've been a pretty good barometer of these things over the years ...not 'cause I have any talent or wisdom etc., just that I'm a cranky old man and things get on my nerves quickly ! Usually just before "it" seems to get on the nerves of the normal population. Hey, it came in handy when I was a cranky YOUNG man - was on to the next "newest thing" before everyone else. When something/anything gets "hip", "cool", the "in" thing, I'm already gone ! Heres to hoping I'm waaayyy off my mark here !
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Racer X Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:23:48pm |
re: #27 spidly
here's his page with all of them
machosauceproductionand another good video though old i think
Bob Parks black history month
from
black and right
I am watching all of them. This guy gets it.
Thanks newsjunkie_ky!
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spidly Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:23:49pm |
re: #25 DesertSage
You know, sometimes the guy who's all flashy, the one with the cool moves, the one who's the crowd favorite...just gets his clock cleaned in the end.
[Link: ca.youtube.com...]
You got that, Mr. Obama?
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:26:33pm |
Does the Flying Pig take 3am phone calls?
Because Alec Baldwin just went on Bill Maher and blamed Democrats (Bill Clinton and Barney Frank in particular) for the meltdown.
It is on you tube. At about 1 minute 30 seconds.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:27:33pm |
re: #25 DesertSage
You know, sometimes the guy who's all flashy, the one with the cool moves, the one who's the crowd favorite...just gets his clock cleaned in the end.
[Link: ca.youtube.com...]
You got that, Mr. Obama?
He's not the crowd favorite. He's favored by a loud minority who he thinks is the crowd. He'll find out the truth, the question is how badly we'll all suffer before he does. If he loses the election, he'll find out in the best way and we'll all be saved a great deal of pain.
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captkirk35 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:28:46pm |
Planted my McCain/Palin sign in the old front yard today. Living in a liberal city in Oregon, I wonder how long it will last.
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billypaintbrush Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:30:21pm |
Hope McCain has a nice relaxing weekend. Maybe this Elmer Fudd imitation of his is a rope-a-dope. Its too bad he wants to play nice with "my friends", and not actually want to be president.
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Spirit93 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:31:40pm |
re: #33 karmic_inquisitor
Does the Flying Pig take 3am phone calls?
Because Alec Baldwin just went on Bill Maher and blamed Democrats (Bill Clinton and Barney Frank in particular) for the meltdown.
It is on you tube. At about 1 minute 30 seconds.
If this truth breaks out it will be a game changer.
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captkirk35 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:32:17pm |
re: #36 billypaintbrush
McCain will come out swinging on Tuesday. Let's just hope he has the gloves off.
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:33:27pm |
re: #35 captkirk35
All you need is a flashing red diode in the window looking at the sign. It will look like a camera and no one wants to get on YouTube like that.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:33:32pm |
Anyone have the link for that blog Little Green Footballs?
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captkirk35 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:34:59pm |
I expect I'll have some footage before long.
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Ringo the Gringo Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:35:03pm |
re: #16 Pawn of the Oppressor
Is there a word that goes beyond mere "hate"? Because she inspires a reaction in some people that's just unbelievable.
Most of the anti-Palin protesters were women and many of the signs and placards they carried were utterly contemptuous. They really hate the fact that she winks and apparently when she says "betcha" it just drives them over the edge.
Also many of the protesters seemed convinced that Sarah Palin hates nature and wants to kill every living thing in sight, especially polar bears and wolves.
Many of the signs also featured pictures of pigs, and quite a few of the demonstrators were wearing rubber pig noses.
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suboptimal Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:35:12pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:35:19pm |
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Bill K. Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:35:23pm |
How to make government stop? Long answer short: take the power to intervene in the economy out of the hands of government.
Meanwhile Jonathan Hoenig has an excellent article at Smart Money
Government Intervention Instills Chaos, Not Calm
I’m a trader, not a political pundit. To that end, I’d love nothing more than to get back to talking about earnings, trends, new products and corporate management. Unfortunately, right now none of those matter. Big Brother is jerking the strings of the financial markets on a daily basis, making normal methods of analysis all but impotent.Whether the final price tag is $700 billion or not, just as with Sarbanes-Oxley or the Patriot Act, the government’s need to “do something” will deliver a cure that’s much worse than the disease, (likely) turning a normal two-year correction into a multi-decade Depression.
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LeePro Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:35:54pm |
re: #25 DesertSage
You know, sometimes the guy who's all flashy, the one with the cool moves, the one who's the crowd favorite...just gets his clock cleaned in the end.
[Link: ca.youtube.com...]
You got that, Mr. Obama?
L!
O!
L!
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DesertSage Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:35:59pm |
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Spirit93 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:36:49pm |
re: #41 Walter L. Newton
Anyone have the link for that blog Little Green Footballs?
Wait a sec, I'll check my favs.
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:37:00pm |
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leftover54 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:37:26pm |
re: #33 karmic_inquisitor
Holy She-ite ! One just flew by my window !
You go Baldwin !
(is he the normally liberal Baldwin ?)
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spidly Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:38:02pm |
re: #33 karmic_inquisitor
Does the Flying Pig take 3am phone calls?
Because Alec Baldwin just went on Bill Maher and blamed Democrats (Bill Clinton and Barney Frank in particular) for the meltdown.
It is on you tube. At about 1 minute 30 seconds.
maybe getting screwed by Kim jong il straightened him out
You are usewess , Awec Bawdwin
think he'll dissociate from Film Actors Guild now?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:38:03pm |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:38:26pm |
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:38:39pm |
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spidly Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:39:19pm |
what about student of objectivism? he finally get sent back to the Pauliverse?
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:40:13pm |
re: #54 Walter L. Newton
Hi Moe. How's the weekend going for ya?
I'm good, Walter. Recovering from an all-you-can-eat Chinese+ buffet, I must confess. And how are you, good sir? How goes the recovery from the surgery?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:40:18pm |
re: #55 Moe Katz
Charles showed him the exit, he has left the building!
Good riddance to bad rubbish. He was given a fair chance and he blew it. He will not be missed.
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:41:50pm |
re: #58 Dark_Falcon
Good riddance to bad rubbish. He was given
afair chance[s] and he blew it. He will not be missed.
There.
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least Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:42:09pm |
The more the moonbats rage at Governor Palin, the more their mask of rationality slips. This is a good thing.
However, as I've said before, things have got to get really, really weird out for a population that's become desensitized to lots bad stuff to be repelled by the "passion" they exhibit. This is a scary thing - 'cause there's no telling just how dangerous and bizarre can they get?
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:42:24pm |
re: #61 Moe Katz
There.
Oops, meant to say he was given COUNTLESS chances. But he had this compulsion to troll.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:42:34pm |
re: #57 Moe Katz
I'm good, Walter. Recovering from an all-you-can-eat Chinese+ buffet, I must confess. And how are you, good sir? How goes the recovery from the surgery?
Fine. Clumsy incision though, it's going to leave a bit of a scar, and I don't scar easy. Denver Health and Medical is the city hospital and of course, it's associated with one of the colleges, so I suspect I got some intern working on extra credit.
I went to a Chinese/German eatery once. One hours after you finished eating, you wanted to start a war again.
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:44:25pm |
re: #60 redc1c4
who? %-)
This neurotic geek in his early 30's who was endlessly provoking everyone with his outrageous statements, though not quite technically a moby or troll by the strict definition. Last week he said if Muslims want Sharia courts then, fine, let them beat their wives.
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DesertSage Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:45:17pm |
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least Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:45:22pm |
re: #39 Moe Katz
Anybody miss EIDE_interface yet?
So where did he (?) go.
Is he just laying low?
Did the Capo di tutti lizardos get fed up?
What?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:45:58pm |
re: #63 Moe Katz
Oops, meant to say he was given COUNTLESS chances. But he had this compulsion to troll.
Indeed, I gave him some of those chances. You did as well. However, he either was on mission as a moby or was too stubborn to use those chances. Either way, I agree that had no business being here and I thank Charles for giving him the hatch.
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:46:10pm |
re: #64 Walter L. Newton
I went to a Chinese/German eatery once. One hours after you finished eating, you wanted to start a war again.
Good one, must remember it.
Are you still having much pain?
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:48:21pm |
re: #66 DesertSage
Why? What did he do?
I think he was actually banned for statements about what ought to be done with all the Muslims; you know, things that one doesn't do in a democratic country ... But the general pattern of conduct was provocative, as I've said. His being kicked out was more to do with crossing those red lines about what can be advocated on the discussion board, however.
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pat Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:49:48pm |
Watching the polls, should they be such, it is clear the country is in a full panic. Wherein angry blacks, racists, losers, Democrats, Hollywood, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, prisoners, all the media, Europe, Russia, China, Arabia, communists and Mexicans and other illegal immigrants believe that we should disarm, have nationalized medicine, eat less, be cold in winter, suffer more, and perhaps just die.
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redc1c4 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:50:15pm |
re: #64 Walter L. Newton
Fine. Clumsy incision though, it's going to leave a bit of a scar, and I don't scar easy. Denver Health and Medical is the city hospital and of course, it's associated with one of the colleges, so I suspect I got some intern working on extra credit.
I went to a Chinese/German eatery once. One hours after you finished eating, you wanted to start a war again.
there are things you can use to reduce scarring..... check with your doc for appropriateness, but HRH has a bottle of Scarguard and it seems to be efficacious the times shes used it. when i had my ankle rebuilt, the surgeon had me rub cocoa butter into the area post op, and the incision is visible, but not raised.....
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:50:59pm |
re: #70 LeePro
EI whacked!
Yeah, leading to a nice string of puns about his computer-hardware-based nic, like "Charles pulled his drive cable" and so on ad infinitum. Oh yes, I said Charles threw him under the 133 MBps bus.
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least Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:51:27pm |
Dang!
The question was asked and answered long before I finished composing my question.
Old and slow, I am.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow for the Lounge.
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redc1c4 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:51:40pm |
re: #65 Moe Katz
This neurotic geek in his early 30's who was endlessly provoking everyone with his outrageous statements, though not quite technically a moby or troll by the strict definition. Last week he said if Muslims want Sharia courts then, fine, let them beat their wives.
sorry: i thought the "%-)" made the "/" unnecessary.......
(maybe i should have used white smoke instead? %-)
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DesertSage Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:52:11pm |
I just can't figure out what's going on here?
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pat Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:52:13pm |
I got the impression that Eide was a moby. Am I wrong? (done that before. i do not always pay attention). Other things happening in my life.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:52:46pm |
re: #73 pat
Watching the polls, should they be such, it is clear the country is in a full panic. Wherein angry blacks, racists, losers, Democrats, Hollywood, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, prisoners, all the media, Europe, Russia, China, Arabia, communists and Mexicans and other illegal immigrants believe that we should disarm, have nationalized medicine, eat less, be cold in winter, suffer more, and perhaps just die.
It's Pat! Neither a girl nor a boy, just a troll. GAZE
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:53:10pm |
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DistantThunder Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:53:26pm |
I've been studying deprogramming since I've sent my brother certain things on obama and he's said: Stop spreading hate, taken out of context, learn to think for yourself. The video of the chanting teenagers he claimed someone made to make Obama look bad.
He's brainwashed
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Nightwatch Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:55:03pm |
Fresh off the Conservative day spa...
Good to be of the 2 inch groups at combat range, threat acquisition, less than 2 sec.
An improvement over last year's "Commie posing as Fuller Brush Man at your door" scenario."
I was hoping for the PETA/OBAMA "I AM THE NEW WORLD ORDER!, foot pushed into the screen door, 40SW triple tap response (chest high), but the sponsors, giving due process to the ACLU said that they were under court order not to allow that program to proceed.
So I went into the hills around my house and sniped 5 coyotes (four legged only)' and 10 to 12 big Harry RATS! Funny, they LOOKED like congressmen/women, only more gamey. justifiable shooting at the very least....
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:55:13pm |
re: #69 Moe Katz
Good one, must remember it. Are you still having much pain?
Occasional little sore on the incision, but not really. I'm up to full steam at the theatre, everything from hanging lights, building sets, cleaning toilets, running the shows etc.
The tech staff wear not hats, we all do what we need to keep the show and the facility running.
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redc1c4 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:55:40pm |
re: #73 pat
you managed to leave one or two groups out of your blanket staement....
would you care to rephrase, advise & extend your remarks, or should we just start laughing at you now?
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DesertSage Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:56:44pm |
I can't figure out what's going on here either?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:57:23pm |
re: #82 Moe Katz
You mean, uh oh because he won't be visible to put his foot in his mouth, right?
No, "uh oh" because it might give Biden sympathy votes. And especially, "uh oh" because someone is very sick. That is always a bad thing.
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least Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:57:45pm |
re: #84 Nightwatch
Oh, if this post isn't fodder for the loons at LGF Watch -- and and all their hive mates.
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redc1c4 Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:57:57pm |
re: #84 Nightwatch
Fresh off the Conservative day spa...
Good to be of the 2 inch groups at combat range, threat acquisition, less than 2 sec.
An improvement over last year's "Commie posing as Fuller Brush Man at your door" scenario."I was hoping for the PETA/OBAMA "I AM THE NEW WORLD ORDER!, foot pushed into the screen door, 40SW triple tap response (chest high), but the sponsors, giving due process to the ACLU said that they were under court order not to allow that program to proceed.
So I went into the hills around my house and sniped 5 coyotes (four legged only)' and 10 to 12 big Harry RATS! Funny, they LOOKED like congressmen/women, only more gamey. justifiable shooting at the very least....
i've potted 2 or 3 rats in the backyard tonight already.....
'bout time to go check again.
(no more easy kills %-(
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Karridine Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:58:15pm |
re: #73 pat
It is certainly clear that the poll posters (the poll-takers) WANT US TO THINK the nation is in full panic... agree with you there...
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Moe Katz Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:58:19pm |
re: #85 Walter L. Newton
Occasional little sore on the incision, but not really. I'm up to full steam at the theatre, everything from hanging lights, building sets, cleaning toilets, running the shows etc.
The tech staff wear not hats, we all do what we need to keep the show and the facility running.
Sounds like you have a lot of fun.
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Nightwatch Sat, Oct 4, 2008 11:59:11pm |
re: #41 Walter L. Newton
Walter,
striking the mid soon, care to toast........just for the hell of it?
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:00:26am |
re: #87 DesertSage
I can't figure out what's going on here either?
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
fight. two guys in the street and the manhole guy coming in aid to one of them
featured guy thinks he's going to use manhole cover as a weapon. slow mo you see he dropped it on his am, probably breaking it.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:01:08am |
re: #82 Moe Katz
You mean, uh oh because he won't be visible to put his foot in his mouth, right?
maybe the Biden exit strategy?
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:01:26am |
re: #76 least
Dang!
The question was asked and answered long before I finished composing my question.
Old and slow, I am.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow for the Lounge.
They have voice at the lounge. Don't know if it's being used yet.
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:01:27am |
re: #78 DesertSage
I just can't figure out what's going on here?
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Maybe the poster's name — num1jackass — explains that.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:01:47am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:01:47am |
re: #74 redc1c4
there are things you can use to reduce scarring..... check with your doc for appropriateness, but HRH has a bottle of Scarguard and it seems to be efficacious the times shes used it. when i had my ankle rebuilt, the surgeon had me rub cocoa butter into the area post op, and the incision is visible, but not raised.....
Hi red.
My basic problem (well, it's not a problem, I'm not too worried about it) is I've lost about 180 pounds over the last two years. So, the surgeon was cutting through a lot of flabby loose skin.
He (or she, I was asleep, I never met the surgeon) did not have a tight layer of sking to sew up. It's more like he had to bunch it up a bit when he pulled it back together.
Like I say, I'm not worried. It was a inguinal hernia, so it doesn't show in public. I would rather have the scar than the 324 pounds I had before.
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DesertSage Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:02:46am |
re: #95 spidly
fight. two guys in the street and the manhole guy coming in aid to one of them
featured guy thinks he's going to use manhole cover as a weapon. slow mo you see he dropped it on his am, probably breaking it.
Well, some people are just dumb as a bag of hammers.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:03:17am |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
No, "uh oh" because it might give Biden sympathy votes. And especially, "uh oh" because someone is very sick. That is always a bad thing.
A serious illness in the family of his in-laws. How much sympathy does one get for that?
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:03:34am |
re: #99 Moe Katz
re: #96 spidly
maybe the Biden exit strategy?
Yep.
but he won the debate, dontcha know
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:03:42am |
re: #73 pat
I sent that post on to Charles. I hope he catches it in the morning. And Pat, try reading the rules at the top of the page. You may get the stick from Charles for that remark.
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:04:42am |
re: #82 Moe Katz
You mean, uh oh because he won't be visible to put his foot in his mouth, right?
I mean uh-oh because if he "conveeeeeeeeeniently" drops out, guess who will might replace!
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:06:35am |
re: #103 spidly
but he won the debate, dontcha know
This election is teaching some folks about the social construction of reality. This phrase will pass from the rarified air of sociological discourse to common parlance.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:07:34am |
re: #105 LeePro
I mean uh-oh because if he "conveeeeeeeeeniently" drops out, guess who
willmight replace!
Possibly ... though I'd be surprised. He's leading anyway, why fix what ain't broke?
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Nightwatch Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:07:42am |
re: #91 redc1c4
AARRGGHH,
That said, .......a TOAST to being scaled or scalded ,choose your poison lizzie's
REAL WEST............real west, my jkeyboard is wt wit red wien....toast ya bastards.. comeeeeon ..........WHO is mandy........zzz.z.zz.z.zzz.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:08:06am |
re: #102 Moe Katz
A serious illness in the family of his in-laws. How much sympathy does one get for that?
Not much, you're right. But I stand by the second part. That having been said, we may have an opportunity. If they pull Biden, they admit just what a boneheaded choice they made. We must seize any such club they offer us and pound them with it. Sarah Palin vindicated John McCain's judgment. We must see that if Biden is replaced, Obama's failure of judgment is highlighted.
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:11:19am |
re: #101 DesertSage
Well, some people are just dumb as a bag of hammers.
Like I said: check the poster's name — num1jackass
;D
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:11:52am |
re: #109 Dark_Falcon
Not much, you're right. But I stand by the second part. That having been said, we may have an opportunity. If they pull Biden, they admit just what a boneheaded choice they made. We must seize any such club they offer us and pound them with it. Sarah Palin vindicated John McCain's judgment. We must see that if Biden is replaced, Obama's failure of judgment is highlighted.
It just seems you could photograph Obama molesting sheep and the MSM would find a way to downplay it.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:13:00am |
re: #108 Nightwatch
AARRGGHH,
That said, .......a TOAST to being scaled or scalded ,choose your poison lizzie's... REAL WEST............real west, my jkeyboard is wt wit red wien....toast ya bastards.. comeeeeon ..........WHO is mandy........zzz.z.zz.z.zzz.
Did you just go through an anal probe by aliens?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:13:11am |
I just sew part of this. I can honestly say that it scared me. I will not panic, but I am more certain than ever that we must win this election.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:15:15am |
this is *not* a good sign..... out back scanning for rats, and i hear a siren start up to the east, headed my way.....
then i here a chopper beating feet also. usually, this time of night, they go easy on the sound in this AO, but not this time. blew right by, headed west, but not that far..... followed by another siren a skosh later. first was likely Fire dept, 2nd, LAPD.....
not good on a saturday night, but at least i didn't hear gunshots.
i don't miss living in *that* kind of area.... %-)
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:15:25am |
re: #106 Moe Katz
This election is teaching some folks about the social construction of reality. This phrase will pass from the rarified air of sociological discourse to common parlance.
you think the current construct will go the way of its cousin Baghdad Bobianism since the efforts are so transparent?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:15:31am |
re: #112 Moe Katz
It just seems you could photograph Obama molesting sheep and the MSM would find a way to downplay it.
Agreed. So we must question his judgment. Here, in other forums, to our co-workers, whenever we can. Obama must be defeated and we must do what we can to see that that happens.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:15:50am |
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:16:37am |
re: #73 pat
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
I sent that post on to Charles. I hope he catches it in the morning. And Pat, try reading the rules at the top of the page. You may get the stick from Charles for that remark.
Nothing wrong with Pat's remark, Walter. People get whacked for being racist, not for naming them.
/THIS post sent to Charles.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:16:57am |
re: #112 Moe Katz
It just seems you could photograph Obama molesting sheep and the MSM would find a way to downplay it.
they won't get that photo until after he's elected and he socks it to the morons who elected him.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:17:44am |
re: #116 spidly
you think the current construct will go the way of its cousin Baghdad Bobianism since the efforts are so transparent?
I just don't question anymore the capacity of people to brainwash people. It's fucking depressing.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:18:06am |
re: #115 redc1c4
this is *not* a good sign..... out back scanning for rats, and i hear a siren start up to the east, headed my way.....
then i here a chopper beating feet also. usually, this time of night, they go easy on the sound in this AO, but not this time. blew right by, headed west, but not that far..... followed by another siren a skosh later. first was likely Fire dept, 2nd, LAPD.....
not good on a saturday night, but at least i didn't hear gunshots.
i don't miss living in *that* kind of area.... %-)
Bushitler martial law begins? Naomi Wolf was right?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:19:08am |
re: #119 LeePro
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Nothing wrong with Pat's remark, Walter. People get whacked for being racist, not for naming them./THIS post sent to Charles.
I'm sorry, when I read it, it appeared that he was wishing this list of people would die. Perhaps I am misreading it. I'm sorry if I stir a pot here.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:20:28am |
re: #117 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. So we must question his judgment. Here, in other forums, to our co-workers, whenever we can. Obama must be defeated and we must do what we can to see that that happens.
I agree. I certainly wouldn't throw my hands up and wail like EIDE :) Much could still happen and one must keep trying.
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West Coast Freedom Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:21:13am |
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pat Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:22:25am |
re: #125 Walter L. Newton
Why would I want them to die? Many are relatives. They are just idiots, opportunists, or free loaders. They still show up at Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Speaking of which, another group lands in an hour.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:22:35am |
re: #123 spidly
Bushitler martial law begins? Naomi Wolf was right?
more likely a spectacular MVA........ or some sort of felony in progress, since they called for air support. we did have a shooting a few blocks away awhile back...... i counted 20+ gunshots, and the only person left at the scene was a thug with a minor flesh wound in the leg...... he was on his cell phone as they wheeled him into the ambulance. happened outside the localest (we have several) Starbucks....
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Nightwatch Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:22:46am |
re: #113 Walter L. Newton
NO! by all concrete, ya blasted one! just prepping ya up for more engagement of the key-board tippy-tappy type! But I reserve the right to shot=gun blast anyone standing 3 to 4 feet to my left as the keyboard lye's!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:23:15am |
re: #119 LeePro
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Nothing wrong with Pat's remark, Walter. People get whacked for being racist, not for naming them.
/THIS post sent to Charles.
Point taken. It's just that Pat has said troll-like things in the past. After the imbroglio over EIDE, I'm kind've in a "Won't Get Fooled Again" mode.
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ibmkeyboard Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:23:30am |
After Barney Frank Chris Dodd and Nancy Peloski along with other notable idiots have melted down the finical sector of the USA.
I have reached a decision that the safest job in America will not be a slick talking senator, congressman/woman, or even the president.
I often thought people working in the food or clothing business had the safest jobs.
The safest job in America will be the man or woman running a dollar printing press.
According to my estimates he or she will have to print 47 trillion dollars over the next 70 years.
We will have paid for his/her house, their children's college education and health insurance. Not to mention their social security and pension.
Does anyone know how I can get a job at the United States Treasury dept via The United States Bureau of Engraving and Printing?
/lets see, 47 trillion divided by 89 years might not be too long-
uh- 47 trillion divided by..........
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Karridine Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:24:07am |
re: #129 pat
Walter missed the part about all those groups 'believe... we should... die'
/a misread. It happens. I'm outta here.
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pat Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:24:45am |
Pat doesn't say troll things, but on the other hand, eh.....? I say what I say.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:25:25am |
re: #135 pat
Pat doesn't say troll things, but on the other hand, eh.....? I say what I say.
I yam what I yam.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:25:27am |
re: #130 redc1c4
funniest part was that *none* of my neighbors even recognized the sounds as gunshots when we talked about it later.......
or is that "saddest"?
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freedomplow Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:25:55am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:26:08am |
re: #128 West Coast Freedom
Back In Time...
It really doesn't matter. He has publicly professed to being a Christian. Even if you don't like his Black Liberation Theology brand of Christianity, I don't think this is in anyway an issue.
At least not anymore than he may be sensitive (or even bias) to a Muslims mindset.
Oh sure, he could be just "fooling us" about being Christian, but we can't really know.
There's a hell of a lot bigger problems with Obama than some schooling he received as a child.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:26:30am |
re: #122 Moe Katz
I just don't question anymore the capacity of people to brainwash people. It's fucking depressing.
not even brainwashing... selling out cheap
DEMS, the party of:
Slavery, KKK, Jim Crow, Stalin Worship, Mussolini Idolatry, Castro cosiness, Sandanista support, Opposition to Civil Rights, Moa and Ho.....
But they are the party of welfare checks, forget that other stuff. get on board with the new servitude!
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:28:06am |
re: #139 Walter L. Newton
It really doesn't matter. He has publicly professed to being a Christian. Even if you don't like his Black Liberation Theology brand of Christianity, I don't think this is in anyway an issue.
At least not anymore than he may be sensitive (or even bias) to a Muslims mindset.
Oh sure, he could be just "fooling us" about being Christian, but we can't really know.
There's a hell of a lot bigger problems with Obama than some schooling he received as a child.
If he hasn't been forthcoming about his Muslim youth, though, that is ammunition for the campaign, no? A big gotcha?
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pat Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:28:38am |
re: #138 freedomplow
And Dolly Parton came out STRONG for her today!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:29:24am |
re: #131 Nightwatch
NO! by all concrete, ya blasted one! just prepping ya up for more engagement of the key-board tippy-tappy type! But I reserve the right to shot=gun blast anyone standing 3 to 4 feet to my left as the keyboard lye's!
Ok. Step away from your keyboard. Put the bottle of Everclear down, take a deep breath and...
See, now that's better isn't it? Now, don't try to make it all the way to the bedroom, the closest couch or chair will be fine.
Lie down, now go to that happy place, go to that happy place, and I betcha golly gee, everything will be alright.
Ok Dr. Phil, take over.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:31:34am |
re: #141 spidly
not even brainwashing... selling out cheap
DEMS, the party of:
Slavery, KKK, Jim Crow, Stalin Worship, Mussolini Idolatry, Castro cosiness, Sandanista support, Opposition to Civil Rights, Moa and Ho.....
But they are the party of welfare checks, forget that other stuff. get on board with the new servitude!
I don't really even want to think about an Obama administration.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:31:46am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:32:24am |
I'm out for the night. That video will ensure I have interesting dreams, I'm sure.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:32:35am |
re: #142 Moe Katz
If he hasn't been forthcoming about his Muslim youth, though, that is ammunition for the campaign, no? A big gotcha?
No, that would be really delving into the nuances of faith, what it means to be a Muslim, how to be a Muslim, if he was of a viable age etc. There is a multitude of ways he could finese his way out of those religious points.
I say it's really not worth the trouble.
Now, if he starts by opening the next debate with a reading from the koran...
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ibmkeyboard Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:33:01am |
re: #128 West Coast Freedom
Back In Time...
Well good-
at least he can remember something.
Uhhhh- Uhh My fellow Americans- UHHHHH I come before Uhhhhhhhh you today with Uhhhhh a heavy uuuuuh heart.
I had Uhhhhhhhh Chocolate milk with pancakes this Uhhhhhhh morning.
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:33:46am |
re: #139 Walter L. Newton
It really doesn't matter. He has publicly professed to being a Christian. [...]
But is he really a christian? ...the Muslims teach that it is "okay" to lie about being a Muslim, if it promotes their cause.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:34:18am |
re: #149 Walter L. Newton
No, that would be really delving into the nuances of faith, what it means to be a Muslim, how to be a Muslim, if he was of a viable age etc. There is a multitude of ways he could finese his way out of those religious points.
I say it's really not worth the trouble.
Now, if he starts by opening the next debate with a reading from the koran...
You're probably right, especially the way the MSM would spin it.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:35:04am |
re: #153 LeePro
But is he really a christian? ...the Muslims teach that it is "okay" to lie about being a Muslim, if it promotes their cause.
He's a Wrightian. Church of race and class warfare with some Christian props.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:35:11am |
re: #145 Moe Katz
Walter's in good form tonight.
Thanks. It's 1:30ish here in Colorado and for some reason I am wide-eyed and not the least bit tired. I don't have to be back to work at the theatre until about 3:00pm Sunday to get ready for our 6:00pm performance.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:36:21am |
re: #153 LeePro
But is he really a christian? ...the Muslims teach that it is "okay" to lie about being a Muslim, if it promotes their cause.
I saw an old interview with him on YouTube that convinced me he's an atheist and sees religion as a way of getting people to participate in a cause. It's pure manipulation to him, I'm convinced....
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:36:29am |
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Nightwatch Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:36:56am |
re: #141 spidly
re: #141 spidly
sorry man, had to double down the click to make sure you proofed, point taken, best not repeated, you have to know you enemy without painting the side of the barn RED!
Least everyone knows.....ya...know? (OLD Indian saying..Mayan I think.)
Dude, my bottle of Merlot is....where?
RACER-X?
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:37:15am |
re: #24 redc1c4
i lurves me some PJ......
Remember, your body needs 6 to 8 glasses of fluid daily. Straight up or on the rocks.
O'Rourke, P.J.
You're both my heroes.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:37:33am |
re: #156 Walter L. Newton
Thanks. It's 1:30ish here in Colorado and for some reason I am wide-eyed and not the least bit tired. I don't have to be back to work at the theatre until about 3:00pm Sunday to get ready for our 6:00pm performance.
And you're a night person by nature.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:37:46am |
re: #153 LeePro
But is he really a christian? ...the Muslims teach that it is "okay" to lie about being a Muslim, if it promotes their cause.
See my 149.
I really wouldn't care if we had a Muslim candidate, really. The only issues I have with Muslims is the ones that want to kill me. I'm not at the point of lumping them all into one caravan.
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:39:20am |
re: #67 least
So where did he (?) go.
Is he just laying low?
Did the Capo di tutti lizardos get fed up?
What?
He's been assimilated.
/still trying to catch up/
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Nightwatch Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:40:38am |
re: #144 Walter L. Newton
Now we find our lamblasted one standing out iin the back-yard, fly down and peein on the dead grass while screaming, " DAMN YA PHIL!"
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:41:03am |
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LeePro Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:41:42am |
Keyboard is not comfy pillow...
¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n
G'nite {good Lizards}!
/hugs on {red}!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:42:01am |
re: #157 Moe Katz
I saw an old interview with him on YouTube that convinced me he's an atheist and sees religion as a way of getting people to participate in a cause. It's pure manipulation to him, I'm convinced....
That would be my best answer to his religious leanings period. I've heard him answer a few questions on his Christianity, and in the least, he has a VERY liberal understanding of traditional Christian concepts, and in the most, I don't think he buys any part of the divine aspects of Christian theology.
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srb1976 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:43:58am |
re: #117 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. So we must question his judgment. Here, in other forums, to our co-workers, whenever we can. Obama must be defeated and we must do what we can to see that that happens.
Ok, this group as a whole seems a lot more active and involved than I usually am. What (aside from sending money, which I will for the first time ever) can someone in a state that will go solidly for McCain provided he doesn't start eating babies in the next month, do.
Wow, and I really apologize for the sentence construction there, but it's been a long day
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:44:33am |
re: #166 LeePro
Keyboard is not comfy pillow...
¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n
G'nite {good Lizards}!
/hugs on {red}!
Goodnight, LeePro, pleasant dreams!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:45:36am |
re: #165 LeePro
But if he's lying?
Alarm
bellsklaxonsringingblaring...!
Ok, and what if Palins lying, she really wants put creation theology into schools. We could go on forever asking that question, is he or she, or this one or that one, or this group or that group, hey, are they lying.
Hell, you wouldn't make it though a day with that kind of cynicism. And take it from someone who wants Andy Rooneys job when it dies.
I can't think of nothing better than getting paid to gripe about everything, and to question every breath someone takes.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:46:20am |
re: #169 srb1976
Ok, this group as a whole seems a lot more active and involved than I usually am. What (aside from sending money, which I will for the first time ever) can someone in a state that will go solidly for McCain provided he doesn't start eating babies in the next month, do.
Wow, and I really apologize for the sentence construction there, but it's been a long day
if you are near a state that is in play - or even if you are not and have time on your hands - you can sign up to canvass. there's phone calls, yadda yadda yadda.
contact the campaign and see
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:46:43am |
re: #167 Walter L. Newton
That would be my best answer to his religious leanings period. I've heard him answer a few questions on his Christianity, and in the least, he has a VERY liberal understanding of traditional Christian concepts, and in the most, I don't think he buys any part of the divine aspects of Christian theology.
Exactly. He is the prototypical red that lives under one's bed.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:46:43am |
re: #166 LeePro
Keyboard is not comfy pillow...
¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n
G'nite {good Lizards}!
/hugs on {red}!
Night wonderful, sleep well.
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srb1976 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:48:31am |
re: #172 spidly
I'm sure that seems like a stupid question, but I'm in alabama, I'm expecting to see LARGE margins of victory for McCain here. I've always voted, I've just never actively gotten involved (since mostly I've voted against people rather than for them)
Thanks though.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:49:50am |
re: #171 Walter L. Newton
Ok, and what if Palins lying, she really wants put creation theology into schools. We could go on forever asking that question, is he or she, or this one or that one, or this group or that group, hey, are they lying.
Hell, you wouldn't make it though a day with that kind of cynicism. And take it from someone who wants Andy Rooneys job when it dies.
I can't think of nothing better than getting paid to gripe about everything, and to question every breath someone takes.
we're pretty sure he'll sell The US, Georgia, Ukraine, and Israel down the river, let Iran Have nukes and roll over Iraq, ignore the Norks while they go nuts, etc.. regardless of his theology so there's not much use in questioning it
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:50:31am |
I'm really upset now. Selma Hayek was suppose to stop by my apartment tonight after she got off set from a movie she is filming and she's not here. And I try to call her cell and all I get is her answering service back in L.A.
What gives?
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:51:26am |
re: #177 spidly
we're pretty sure he'll sell The US, Georgia, Ukraine, and Israel down the river, let Iran Have nukes and roll over Iraq, ignore the Norks while they go nuts, etc.. regardless of his theology so there's not much use in questioning it
Carter did much the same geopolitically and he was a good Southern Baptist. So you really can't win.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:51:27am |
re: #177 spidly
we're pretty sure he'll sell The US, Georgia, Ukraine, and Israel down the river, let Iran Have nukes and roll over Iraq, ignore the Norks while they go nuts, etc.. regardless of his theology so there's not much use in questioning it
That sums it up. I'd rather target those issues then the religious ones.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:53:00am |
re: #178 Walter L. Newton
I'm really upset now. Selma Hayek was suppose to stop by my apartment tonight after she got off set from a movie she is filming and she's not here. And I try to call her cell and all I get is her answering service back in L.A.
What gives?
and we just have Danny Glover lurking around Portland
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:54:10am |
re: #181 spidly
and we just have Danny Glover lurking around Portland
A really great actor, a really dumbsit moonbat of the highest order.
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Nightwatch Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:54:28am |
re: #171 Walter L. Newton
Damn ya, waiting for the witty repost and now seeing time heading for the O-Dark- One mark, work in less than 6 and a glass-o-red yet to be drained, your a fine player!
See you soon my friend.
Night lizards
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:55:01am |
re: #181 spidly
and we just have Danny Glover lurking around Portland
Is he in town on a shoot or does he live there?
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srb1976 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:55:29am |
re: #178 Walter L. Newton
She's probably just mad that you're calling her Selma....I'm pretty sure it's Salma. You know how sensitive us girls get over things like that = )
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:55:31am |
re: #180 Walter L. Newton
That sums it up. I'd rather target those issues then the religious ones.
Oh yeah, he'll coddle Chavez, cower before Putin, Prop up the Castros, destabilize Pakistan...
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:55:44am |
re: #183 Nightwatch
Damn ya, waiting for the witty repost and now seeing time heading for the O-Dark- One mark, work in less than 6 and a glass-o-red yet to be drained, your a fine player! See you soon my friend. Night lizards
Yes, what he said!
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:55:49am |
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:57:06am |
re: #160 Mel Lono
You're both my heroes.
you're attempting to flatter the unflatterable...... after all Heroes are hard to find, but we can be heroes,
just for one day.
i was never a hero, but i was privileged enough to serve with some.
Scouts Out!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:57:06am |
re: #185 srb1976
She's probably just mad that you're calling her Selma....I'm pretty sure it's Salma. You know how sensitive us girls get over things like that = )
Shit, I thought her business card looked phony.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:57:24am |
re: #183 Nightwatch
Damn ya, waiting for the witty repost and now seeing time heading for the O-Dark- One mark, work in less than 6 and a glass-o-red yet to be drained, your a fine player!
See you soon my friend.
Night lizards
work'll be a blast tomorrow. Spew in a garbage can in the morning and go to it
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:58:00am |
re: #188 spidly
he lives here
Isn't Portland where all the hippies finally ended up because they heard there were no jobs up there?
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:58:43am |
Time for me to pack it in too. Thanks everyone for good conversation.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:59:09am |
re: #166 LeePro
Keyboard is not comfy pillow...
¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n
G'nite {good Lizards}!
/hugs on {red}!
/me throws myself in the pool to drown the cooties.
damn good thing it's still 94*!
(gotta love that solar cover! %-)
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:59:12am |
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 12:59:46am |
re: #192 Walter L. Newton
Isn't Portland where all the hippies finally ended up because they heard there were no jobs up there?
Those are the Eugene and Hood River Valley hippies. They came to Ken Kesey-land to grow dope, pick shrooms and cook up meth in the woods
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:00:35am |
re: #173 Moe Katz
Exactly. He is the prototypical red that lives under one's bed.
leave me outta this!
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:02:40am |
re: #178 Walter L. Newton
I'm really upset now. Selma Hayek was suppose to stop by my apartment tonight after she got off set from a movie she is filming and she's not here. And I try to call her cell and all I get is her answering service back in L.A.
What gives?
i'll see if i can get her to post when she comes back with my refill.....
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:02:59am |
re: #196 spidly
Those are the Eugene and Hood River Valley hippies. They came to Ken Kesey-land to grow dope, pick shrooms and cook up meth in the woods
And they hold all these mud festivals and run around neked. i have a friend of mine who visits some festival there once a year. Ya know, I'm a bit of a nut, and sometimes a little slut, but some of the dudes and ladies that he was taking pictures of, well, let's say just keep it behind the bushes folks.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:03:56am |
re: #200 redc1c4
i'll see if i can get her to post when she comes back with my refill.....
What is she refilling, your saline drip. LOL!
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:06:01am |
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:06:06am |
re: #199 Moe Katz
Come to think of it, you'd better be careful with that nic.
"careful" is against my religious beliefs......
/such as they are %-)
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srb1976 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:06:35am |
Well, good night folks, i got off work 4 hours early, better use some of the time sleeping or else I'm not going to see Little man and Her Royal Stoutness much tomorrow
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freedomplow Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:10:03am |
re: #147 spidly
the Nuge could sneak into Pakistan, kill the whoe of the Taliban and stick an arrow in Osama's Eyball from 1000 yards...if he were still alive
60 million people are now free In Iraq and Afghanistan.
McCain and Palin should be shouting that from the roof tops.
The men and women that give their lives for this country are so awesome.
What kind of world would we live in if not for American Heroes?
Never again will we have a media that tells the public they died for nothing. That is so sick, so unconscionable.
They are all heroes. The media is trying to tell the public that they are not.
Yes You NBC and MSNBC. You are so disgusting.
Here is another Biden-Obama lie if anyone is counting.
NY Times Iraq Reporter Corrects Russert: 'American Troops Were Greeted as Liberators
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:10:38am |
re: #201 Walter L. Newton
And they hold all these mud festivals and run around neked. i have a friend of mine who visits some festival there once a year. Ya know, I'm a bit of a nut, and sometimes a little slut, but some of the dudes and ladies that he was taking pictures of, well, let's say just keep it behind the bushes folks.
dope and naked people
when I was little it was just a granola event with Bob Rossian and New Yankee Workshop types. oldstyle blacksmith, SCA events.
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IslandLibertarian Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:13:12am |
'cause cyclops are not sexy............
Saudi Cleric Says Women Must Wear One-Eye Veil to Prevent 'Seduction'
cue Rod Serling
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:13:37am |
re: #207 spidly
dope and naked people
when I was little it was just a granola event with Bob Rossian and New Yankee Workshop types. oldstyle blacksmith, SCA events.
Yep, that's it.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:14:12am |
Who is this shill Michael Hehnhenn, who wrote the AP article about Sarah Palin's bringing up the Obama/Ayers connection?
Instead of just reporting what she said and Obama's reaction, we get this editorializing straight off Campaign Obama's talking points list:
While it is known that Obama and Ayers live in the same Chicago neighborhood, served on a charity board together and had a fleeting political connection, it's a stretch of any reading of the public record to say the pair ever palled around. And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts.
What a scumbag. I'm trying to find his e-mail address, no luck so far.
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freedomplow Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:21:21am |
If the McCain campaign doesn't read LGF and the comments, you are not on top of the pulse of America.
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:22:53am |
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:24:54am |
re: #210 Tigger2005
Who is this shill Michael Hehnhenn, who wrote the AP article about Sarah Palin's bringing up the Obama/Ayers connection?
Instead of just reporting what she said and Obama's reaction, we get this editorializing straight off Campaign Obama's talking points list:
What a scumbag. I'm trying to find his e-mail address, no luck so far.
gotta better spelling of his name? this one seems garbled
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:25:46am |
re: #213 Mel Lono
somewhere, in storage, I've got HAN on vinyl.
don't remember if i've got the LP: it'd be at the P's HA, but even a CD would be nice......
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:27:06am |
I know I'm not first, but I think you had to know.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:27:28am |
re: #212 freedomplow
If the McCain campaign doesn't read LGF and the comments, you are not on top of the pulse of America.
if the McCain campaign read this, and other, similar, blogs, and *acted* on the contents thereof, they wouldn't be in the situation they're in right now.
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:29:20am |
re: #215 redc1c4
don't remember if i've got the LP: it'd be at the P's HA, but even a CD would be nice......
My 16 yr old son has an affliction affection for Kearth and Ipods. I'll set him on the trail. I started him with Hotel California and look where it got me.
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kansas Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:29:38am |
Dick Morris says the new polls show McCain lost the first debate and that suspending his campaign was disastrous. His analysis of the Electoral map one month out shows an Obama landslide.
McCain is starting to remind me of Mohammed Ali in his last fights. I always thought he was roping a dope. But he just couldn't pull the trigger. We found out that he couldn't pull the trigger anymore.
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Sailor5116 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:31:54am |
Conservatives should take Obama's advice and 'get in the faces of undecided voters' with facts.
Link to original image. Pass it on to everyone you know, post in blogs. We have to force this PUNK to answer for this.
farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2913717263_8e8326076a _o.jpg
Please visit the original image and pass it along to everyone you know
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kansas Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:33:25am |
re: #39 Moe Katz
Anybody miss EIDE_interface yet?
Last posts of his I read somebody ought to go check out his house, see if there are any bad smells or the mail is piling up outside.
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:33:44am |
re: #219 kansas
Dick Morris says the new polls show McCain lost the first debate and that suspending his campaign was disastrous. His analysis of the Electoral map one month out shows an Obama landslide.
McCain is starting to remind me of Mohammed Ali in his last fights. I always thought he was roping a dope. But he just couldn't pull the trigger. We found out that he couldn't pull the trigger anymore.
I feel like John Wayne in "The Searchers", hopelessly outnumbered. Nothing to live for...
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Spirit93 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:36:30am |
re: #219 kansas
Dick Morris says the new polls show McCain lost the first debate and that suspending his campaign was disastrous. His analysis of the Electoral map one month out shows an Obama landslide.
He claims to know what's going to happen a month from now based on some polls? Please.
BTW, got a linky for that?
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Tigger2005 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:37:58am |
re: #214 redc1c4
gotta better spelling of his name? this one seems garbled
Sorry, it's KUHNHENN, duh. I was searching under the correct name, though.
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:41:21am |
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Tigger2005 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:41:51am |
re: #222 Mel Lono
I feel like John Wayne in "The Searchers", hopelessly outnumbered. Nothing to live for...
Uh, how about the millions and millions of other people who are going to be voting for McCain/Palin? Aren't they worth living for? How about fighting for your country? Isn't that worth living for?
I am SO glad Churchill and Roosevelt didn't have the "give up" attitude of some people in here, when the armies of Hell were surging over the face of the Earth and everything seemed bleak and hopeless.
The defenders of Stalingrad ate shoe leather to survive.
For f*cks sake, buck up!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:42:24am |
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:43:00am |
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Temujin Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:45:05am |
re: #225 Tigger2005
The name is Jim Kuhnhenn ; that doesn't help much when searching, though.
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:45:06am |
re: #229 Tigger2005
Uh, how about the millions and millions of other people who are going to be voting for McCain/Palin? Aren't they worth living for? How about fighting for your country? Isn't that worth living for?
I am SO glad Churchill and Roosevelt didn't have the "give up" attitude of some people in here, when the armies of Hell were surging over the face of the Earth and everything seemed bleak and hopeless.
The defenders of Stalingrad ate shoe leather to survive.
For f*cks sake, buck up!
yellow* not doing this tonight.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:45:20am |
re: #232 Mel Lono
Yep. KHJ was for us white folks.
and they played all the hits! Boss Radio.............. down in the Goldmine.
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:52:11am |
re: #229 Tigger2005
Uh, how about the millions and millions of other people who are going to be voting for McCain/Palin? Aren't they worth living for? How about fighting for your country? Isn't that worth living for?
I am SO glad Churchill and Roosevelt didn't have the "give up" attitude of some people in here, when the armies of Hell were surging over the face of the Earth and everything seemed bleak and hopeless.
The defenders of Stalingrad ate shoe leather to survive.
For f*cks sake, buck up!
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 1:57:37am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:00:01am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------------->
Help yourselves!
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:01:12am |
re: #241 littleoldlady
Morning maam. Hope you're not Cub fan.
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Temujin Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:02:08am |
re: #225 Tigger2005
James Kuhnhenn appears to have been employed as a correspondent for Knight-Ridder, presumably(?) prior to AP :
[Link: www.zoominfo.com...]
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:03:10am |
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spidly Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:04:24am |
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:05:17am |
re: #240 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------------->
Help yourselves!
so, how do you like the taste tonight?
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Mel Lono Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:07:19am |
re: #244 littleoldlady
Mel! :-)
Nope. Phillies.
/not much better, is it?
rooting for you, and the Devil Rays, except I'm a NL guy and got nowhere to go.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:09:24am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:10:51am |
re: #244 littleoldlady
I'm glad that particular series is gonna last a little bit longer for hardly any other reason than that I can listen to Bob Uecker do the play-by-play on XM.
/Plus Gabe Kapler (as a Brewer) autographed my Red Sox 2004 Sports Illustrated cover earlier this year. I also caught C.C. Sabathia on his way into the ballpark last year and he signed a baseball for me.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:14:35am |
re: #253 Fenway_Nation
You're a real fan, Fenway. Me, I know things are going well when I'm called upon to make taco dip for a crowd.
;-)
Anyway, I hope we at least get past this series, mostly because my little brother - a raging Phillies fan since he was 5 or 6 - is about due for a feel-good season.
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armaros Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:20:48am |
Watch this clip of a 2004 Congressional hearing into F/F shady accounting tricks.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:21:36am |
re: #253 Fenway_Nation
I'm glad that particular series is gonna last a little bit longer for hardly any other reason than that I can listen to Bob Uecker do the play-by-play on XM.
/Plus Gabe Kapler (as a Brewer) autographed my Red Sox 2004 Sports Illustrated cover earlier this year. I also caught C.C. Sabathia on his way into the ballpark last year and he signed a baseball for me.
i got Lee Ving's autograph last sunday............ %-)
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Attaboid Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:24:44am |
Yummm! Fruitcup. Just what I needed.
Thanks Little Old Lady!
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:26:19am |
Attaboid! :-)
Would you eat it in a box?
Would you eat it with a fox?
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Temujin Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:31:31am |
Thoughtcrime.
Any restrictions on speech -- real or imagined -- were once inevitably deemed to have a "chilling effect" on people who would otherwise exercise their First Amendment rights if they weren't so frightened by the possibility of running afoul of the law. Claims of a "chilling effect" were the most reliable weapon in the American Civil Liberties Union's absolutist campaign against, say, even the most common-sensical laws against obscenity.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:34:51am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:34:52am |
re: #254 littleoldlady
Game two of that Angels/Red Sox series is exactly what October baseball should look like (especially the Boston winning part). Boston gets out to an early 4-1 lead, adds to it a little later on but despite only one extra-bases hit the whole game, the Angels claw back to tie the game 5-5 late.
In the top of the 9th, Big Papi hammers a ball off the Angels closer (Frankie Rodriguez) that barely stays in the park for a double and is lifted for a pinch runner, Coco Crisp (no, really- that's his name). Rodriguez throws to second and just misses getting Crisp thrown out leading off the base (he dove back in, and if the shortstop had blocked the plate like a catcher, Crisp would've been out). The Rodriguez gives up a two-run homer to Sox right-fielder J.D. Drew that initially looked like it was going to drop or hit the wall for a base-hit.
I actually caught Game One in person, which was a pretty good game (7 complete innings and 120 pitches of one-run baseball for cancer-survivor John Lester) but I was at a bar for Game Two and people who I know for a fact don't like baseball were watching, simply riveted and trying to figure out what was gonna happen next.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:39:12am |
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Tigger2005 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:42:15am |
re: #263 Temujin
Thoughtcrime.
Any restrictions on speech -- real or imagined -- were once inevitably deemed to have a "chilling effect" on people who would otherwise exercise their First Amendment rights if they weren't so frightened by the possibility of running afoul of the law. Claims of a "chilling effect" were the most reliable weapon in the American Civil Liberties Union's absolutist campaign against, say, even the most common-sensical laws against obscenity.
Part of the challenge of taking on liberals today is that whatever you accuse them of, in their own minds the evil conservative establishment has already done it and worse, beginning at least in 1963 with the assassination of Kennedy (although many of them probably go back further) and going forward to the Patriot Act, which of course gave the Bush Administration the power to tap YOUR phone conversations on a whim and take you away in a black helicopter to a secret concentration camp and be waterboarded for saying anything negative about the administration or the war. They really believe all this, so, anything goes in the attempt to bring down the Man.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:43:52am |
re: #259 littleoldlady
Attaboid! :-)
Would you eat it in a box?
Would you eat it with a fox?
that depends on which fox the box belongs to.......
/white smoke
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Temujin Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:48:31am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:50:41am |
Ok, I'm listening to a replay of this past Friday's "Brian and Judge Napolitano" radio show, which is a Fox show.
I haven't heard the show in a year or more, but the last time I looked, I thought Napolitano was basicly a conservative.
Well, both of them are trashing Palin in the debate, trashing McCain for voting for the bailout, and have had two Obama spin doctors on tooting Obama's horn.
What the F' gives?
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:53:38am |
re: #266 Fenway_Nation
Cool- what did he sign?
/or should I even ask
we were back stage, so i got the stage schedule from the guy running the sound board, and got Lee & his band, including Sam Bolle, who was in AO previously, to sign it, as well as Mike Palm who drew a cartoon and signed, plus the obligatory scribble from Nick Razor of GFI.... i also scrounged a copy of the AO set list, and HRH got her denim shirt signed by most of the same people.... Dr. Know left right after their set, but then again, they sucked, so it's just as well.
punk's not dead: it just smells that way! %-)
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:57:11am |
I have just about had it with the conservative punditry and their plaintive wailings about the unfairness of the self-proclaimed "mainstream media"...[.]Hope springs eternal in the conservative breast that we are on the verge of an imminent breakthrough: just one more fact laid out, just one more liberal smear blown out of the water and the scales will fall off the liberal journalists' eyes. They will see the light and embark upon the path of righteousness and objectivity. This hope is as baseless as it is stupid -- akin to blowing one's lunch money on lottery tickets in the fervent belief that this time, finally, one will hit the jackpot.
Mornin folks.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:58:56am |
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Attaboid Sun, Oct 5, 2008 2:59:47am |
I bought a lottery ticket last night.
/I'm a sucker for stats.
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Oldasdirt Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:00:15am |
Hey lizards,Over the past few hours been looking at videos,from C-Span,to house hearings,and news from the past two years.
Now i have allways known that democrats lie,but after all this i see how good they lie,and do it with totaly straight faces.
Conclusion-They dont need to be voted out.They need to be eraticated.
Oh,,and good early morn to you guys.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:00:21am |
aboo! :-)
I dunno...I almost always play the Powerball.
/hope springs eternal
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:02:41am |
Geepers! :-)
I've been called fruitcake fruitcup before. ;-)
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:04:06am |
Oldasdirt! :-)
Temujin! :-)
/been called twisted, too
//I see we have Variation on a Theme today...
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:07:34am |
re: #280 littleoldlady
aboo! :-)
I dunno...I almost always play the Powerball.
/hope springs eternal
the odds worse than playing the lottery are to not play at all.
you go from slim to none at all.
/science!
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Geepers Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:08:42am |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo (##275),
They will see the light and embark upon the path of righteousness and objectivity.
Completely misses the mark. I don't think that's actually the objective at all as nobody thinks these died-in-the-wool liberals are going to change, rather it's to discredit them as journalists and expose them for what they are. Which, if you consider sales and respect for profession numbers, is working quite nicely.
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:09:14am |
re: #279 Oldasdirt
Hey lizards,Over the past few hours been looking at videos,from C-Span,to house hearings,and news from the past two years.
Now i have allways known that democrats lie,but after all this i see how good they lie,and do it with totaly straight faces.
Conclusion-They dont need to be voted out.They need to be eraticated.
Oh,,and good early morn to you guys.
how about we just put them all somewhere nice, and let them try all their theories on themselves, instead of on the rest of us?
/just a thought
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Geepers Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:17:00am |
redc1c4 (#284),
the odds worse than playing the lottery are to not play at all.you go from slim to none at all.
Yeah, them same for all the "I'm not voting for Republicans any more because they don't give me what I want" crowd.
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Oldasdirt Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:20:09am |
I thought that after Bill O's exposing Barney Frank,and U-tube with all the Dem's that said back since 1995 that FM/FM were doing fine,and it has to be plain to the people that the Dem's are solely responsible for this crash that the whip would come down on them.
Then i hear that a committee will be set up to investigate the improprieties,headed by,Barney Frank and Stretch Pelosi.
My mind just spins thinking about all the injustice these people have brought.
And now like a cat in a sand box,with the help of the MSM,they will cover it up.
This is just not justice.
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shiplord kirel Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:20:24am |
Sheesh!
In reporting Sarah Palin's statements about the Obama-Ayers connection, MSNBC's morning goofball dismissively remarked that Ayers and Obama had merely served on the same board of directors some years ago. The network failed to mention the personal friendship of many years standing, the closeness of their business relationship, that Ayers was in fact Obama's boss at one time, or that its was in Ayers's house that Obama actually launched his campaign.
Now, MSNBC has every right to support the candidate of its choice (and Obama is the media choice in every sense of the term). They do not, however, have the moral right to lie to the American people to advance that cause, nor do they have any moral or logical basis for claiming to be an objective source of news and analysis.
We will be in unknown territory when Obama attempts to revive the misnamed "fairness doctrine" as a payoff for MSM support. This, of course, will be a totalitarian censorship regime, aimed at suppressing, not simply opposition to liberalism, but every alternative to and dissent against the standard cultural model of the media-industrial complex. Many dictators have imposed such censorship in the past, or do today, but there is no precedent for a censorship regime in which the commercial media themselves are the arbiters and controlling authority of that regime. Look at who these people are; monsters of vanity and ego, ruthlessly greedy, pathologically arrogant, isolated, ignorant in many cases of the most basic facts about the subjects they pretend to report.
We will be in the hands of devils if they gain the final measure of power for which this campaign sets the stage.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:20:25am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:27:40am |
Isn't it time for Stanley Kurtz to be out there giving interviews?
/at least FOXnews should recognize that HE is the one who has done the most research on the Ayers/Obama connection.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:28:25am |
221 kansas 10/05/08 1:33:25 am reply quote 0
re: #39 Moe Katz
Anybody miss EIDE_interface yet?
I have not seen him, but I can't say I miss him.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:29:58am |
re: #39 Moe Katz
Anybody miss EIDE_interface yet?
No but, if I do, I'll just get a hammer and smack my knees.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:34:05am |
I wonder if the ESPN sports-droid Lee Corso feels like an idiot this morning?
Nah, a fool is never ashamed of his own folly.
He picked Kansas State over Texas Tech as his "upset special of the week" on the grounds that Texas Tech is "overrated." K-State fans picked this up and chanted "Overrated! Overrated!" as Tech players entered the field yesterday.
Final: Texas Tech 58, K-State 28.
And it wasn't even as close as this lop-sided score would indicate (Tech had their 58 points a few seconds into the fourth quarter).
Perhaps Corso can follow so many other sportscasters (Bryant Gumbel, Keith Olbermann, et al) and become a lefty demogogue.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:34:58am |
re: #293 MandyManners
No but, if I do, I'll just get a hammer and smack my knees.
Kinda early in the morning to be doing that. Morning Mandy, thanks for those Soros links.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:37:39am |
Walter L. Newton 10/05/08 2:50:41 am reply quote 0Ok, I'm listening to a replay of this past Friday's "Brian and Judge Napolitano" radio show, which is a Fox show.
I haven't heard the show in a year or more, but the last time I looked, I thought Napolitano was basicly a conservative.
Well, both of them are trashing Palin in the debate, trashing McCain for voting for the bailout, and have had two Obama spin doctors on tooting Obama's horn.
What the F' gives?
I noticed this about 2 weeks ago - that FOX appears to be on Obama's camp. Yesterday they reported the Obama/Ayers connection was "tenuous."
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Spirit93 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:37:44am |
re: #292 yah
221 kansas 10/05/08 1:33:25 am reply quote 0
I have not seen him, but I can't say I miss him.
EIDE got the stik.
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Geepers Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:39:32am |
yah (#292),
#108 Charles :: Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:30:24 am
EIDE_Interface is banned. Good grief. Reading that thread was like having a root canal without novocaine.
Yes. And as someone who's had four root canals in the last four months I can attest to that.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:40:35am |
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:41:52am |
re: #295 Walter L. Newton
Kinda early in the morning to be doing that. Morning Mandy, thanks for those Soros links.
Did you find some good stuff?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:44:24am |
BHO and Ayers worked together at the Woods Fund of Chicago for about three years.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:48:21am |
The firebomb early Friday caused no injuries or significant damage, and residents had put the blaze out by the time firefighters arrived, police spokeswoman Sarah Huntley said.
Huntley said it was probably not a hate crime, but more likely stemmed from a feud between the fraternity and residents of a nearby apartment or with another fraternity. No arrests had been made, and police had no individual suspects.
SNIP
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redc1c4 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:48:48am |
0400? (more or less %-) wtf am i thinking?
hasta, y'all.............. L8r!
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:49:20am |
re: #302 littleoldlady
It was "just coffee".
In 2002 the Woods Fund made a grant to Northwestern University Law School's Children and Family Justice Center, where Ayers' wife, Bernardine Dohrn, was employed.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:51:43am |
It was "just coffee", I tells ya, Mandy!
/the Obama campaign said it, so it must be true
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:52:41am |
The Obama/Ayers connection by itseslf is not that important. But when
added to his Pastor's hate speech, Michelle's "not proud of America," no hand on his heart for the pledge, no flag pin, statements about our troops killing civilians, and such, anyone can see a that Obama does not Love this country - well at least I can.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:54:42am |
re: #306 littleoldlady
It was "just coffee", I tells ya, Mandy!
/the Obama campaign said it, so it must be true
I wonder which Starbuck's blend is Ayers' favorite.
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Geepers Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:57:54am |
yah (#307),
Obama does not Love this country
And who could love a country filled to the brim with Constitution-shredding Republican oligarchs, evil neocon warmongers and gun-totting racist hickbillys?
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:59:13am |
re: #308 MandyManners
I wonder which Starbuck's blend is Ayers' favorite.
Don't know about Ayers, but the O's is Mocha Grande Latteliette.
Good morning everyone!
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DeerMusic Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:59:46am |
A question for which I have not found an answer: as the situation in Iraq increasingly improved -- taking away an important issue for Democrats -- the economy went increasingly into decline. Has anyone speculated whether someone like Soros, with his billions, could have had a hand in some of the key factors (such as oil speculation) affecting the economy? It just seemed timed too well to be a mere coincidence.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 3:59:59am |
re: #300 MandyManners
Did you find some good stuff?
I was looking for the links to pass on to someone else. Over the months, I've read most of these articles, but I never bookmarked them.
You were a big help so I could send this person an email with all the links.
Ya know, the bottom line, between Franks, Soros, Dodd and a bunch of other idiots, there really should be arrests made. If there hasn't been crimes commited in all this mess, then I don't know nuthin' and I must be brain dead.
Or else, these gumba's need a soprano's visit.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:00:09am |
re: #309 Geepers
yah (#307),
And who could love a country filled to the brim with Constitution-shredding Republican oligarchs, evil neocon warmongers and gun-totting racist hickbillys?
You forgot the Bible-thumping book-burners and uncouth Texas Tech fans.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:01:31am |
re: #311 DeerMusic
A question for which I have not found an answer: as the situation in Iraq increasingly improved -- taking away an important issue for Democrats -- the economy went increasingly into decline. Has anyone speculated whether someone like Soros, with his billions, could have had a hand in some of the key factors (such as oil speculation) affecting the economy? It just seemed timed too well to be a mere coincidence.
He didn't set up the rickety system of subprime mortgages but, I wouldn't be suprised if he speculated with oil.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:01:53am |
re: #303 MandyManners
The report is very accurate. There is no hate anywhere in Boulder. It's all gumdrops and flowing chocolate rivers.
/
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:02:34am |
re: #309 Geepers
Plus all of us that cling to our religion - disgusting!
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:02:39am |
re: #312 Walter L. Newton
I was looking for the links to pass on to someone else. Over the months, I've read most of these articles, but I never bookmarked them.
You were a big help so I could send this person an email with all the links.
Ya know, the bottom line, between Franks, Soros, Dodd and a bunch of other idiots, there really should be arrests made. If there hasn't been crimes commited in all this mess, then I don't know nuthin' and I must be brain dead.
Or else, these gumba's need a soprano's visit.
Wasn't Soros recently convicted of something in France?
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:03:18am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:04:30am |
re: #317 MandyManners
Wasn't Soros recently convicted of something in France?
Yes, insider trading, verdict upheld after appeal TWO years ago.
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:05:12am |
re: #315 Walter L. Newton
The report is very accurate. There is no hate anywhere in Boulder. It's all gumdrops and flowing chocolate rivers.
/
A few years ago, there were some news stories about the Boulder police accepting public reports for a database of people who had made "insensitive" remarks or told racial or sexist jokes. The stories disappeared into the MSM memory hole.
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DeerMusic Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:05:33am |
re: #317 MandyManners
Yes.
Insider trading. And so far, a French appeals court rejected his argument to overturn the conviction.
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:06:18am |
{littleoldlady!}
It's not just being judged by the company we keep anymore.
/I like being judged by which politicians hate me. :)
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:09:41am |
Great...just friggin great. Our primary ally{sigh}. War on Taliban cannot be won, says army chief
Britain's most senior military commander in Afghanistan has warned that the war against the Taliban cannot be won. Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith said the British public should not expect a “decisive military victory” but should be prepared for a possible deal with the Taliban.
Yea....Let's Make A Deal! I mean, the Paki's deals with the Taliban work out so well and all.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:12:50am |
re: #320 Shiplord Kirel
A few years ago, there were some news stories about the Boulder police accepting public reports for a database of people who had made "insensitive" remarks or told racial or sexist jokes. The stories disappeared into the MSM memory hole.
I've told this story before, but about three years ago, as my 25 year career as a computer programmer was going the way of outsourcing, I was still working some short term contract stuff.
Almost all of my assignments for about a year were in Boulder. I went to work for this call center (you know, the jerks that call you 18 times a day to sell you extended car warrenties). They had about 40 employees.
The owner of this joint actually made me stand in his office, my arms extended cruxiform style, as he waved bottles of herbal remedies over my body.
He told me he could read my aura, and when he got the right reaction, he would know what supplements I should be including in my diet.
Now, this space cadet was not selling anything. He had a boat load of these supplements in store for the employees.
I let that little Oprah moment slide, but the first staff meeting I went to, he had us all hold hands and start chanting some stuff.
Needless to say, I was gone in a month. And this was a 3-4 million dollar a year business, not some hole in the wall.
Geeessshhh.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:13:48am |
Then there's the pesky fact that Obama and Ayers served together on the board of the Woods Fund for three years—and continued to do so even after Ayers was quoted in the New York Times fondly recalling his days as a bomber, and despairing that he hadn't "done more." (This quote, the Obama fact sheet reminds us, comes from an interview that just happened to be published on 9/11—Ayers had made the incendiary remarks earlier. I don't know about you, but that makes me feel a lot better). The funds Obama and Ayers helped control at the Woods Foundation funneled thousands of dollars into both Khalidi's organization and the now-infamous Trinity United Church of Christ. Irrelevant, phony distractions? So what if the Obama campaign's top strategist concedes that the Senator's relationship with the terrorist is "friendly"? I apologize for even devoting this much attention to such tenuous and unimportant information.
SNIP
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:14:02am |
re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Great...just friggin great. Our primary ally{sigh}. War on Taliban cannot be won, says army chief
Yea....Let's Make A Deal! I mean, the Paki's deals with the Taliban work out so well and all.
This defeatist putz Carleton-Smith should be sacked. We have already offered the Taliban a deal: Lay down your arms, stop harboring terrorists and oppressing women, and we will stop killing you. They didn't take it.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:14:39am |
re: #319 Walter L. Newton
Yes, insider trading, verdict upheld after appeal TWO years ago.
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]
re: #321 DeerMusic
Yes.
Insider trading. And so far, a French appeals court rejected his argument to overturn the conviction.
Something was niggling at the back of my mind.
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DeerMusic Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:15:48am |
re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Sure, making deals with the Taliban sounds great! After all, could people who murder indiscriminately not be trusted to tell the truth and keep their agreements and treaties?
Clear thinkers know the answer...
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:15:51am |
re: #328 MandyManners
Something was niggling at the back of my mind.
You can't use the "n" word? Gosh, my sensibilities!
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:15:57am |
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:17:05am |
re: #319 Walter L. Newton
Yes, insider trading, verdict upheld after appeal TWO years ago.
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]
I wonder if the ECHR will over-turn it. Is he allowed to travel to France?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:18:52am |
re: #330 Walter L. Newton
You can't use the "n" word? Gosh, my sensibilities!
Should I turn myself in to the Boulder police?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:19:27am |
re: #332 MandyManners
I wonder if the ECHR will over-turn it. Is he allowed to travel to France?
Err, ok, over my head on this, what is the ECHR, can you eat it?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:20:27am |
re: #325 gettinby
Countrywide Home Loans filed for foreclosure last year, and Polk's home was sold to Fannie Mae at a sheriff's auction in June
Dodd's good buddies?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:21:04am |
re: #334 Walter L. Newton
Err, ok, over my head on this, what is the ECHR, can you eat it?
European Court of Human Rights.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:22:40am |
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DeerMusic Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:23:36am |
re: #337 MandyManners
Are they still allowed to use the word "rights" in Europe?
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:24:31am |
re: #325 gettinby
Fannie Mae announced later Friday that it would dismiss its foreclosure action, forgive Polk's mortgage and allow her to return to the Akron home where she's lived since 1970
I really feel for the poor woman, but I wonder how many other peoples mortgages will be forgiven. Judges can now decide how much interest and the balance of your mortgage. The MSM are calling all these poor people who bought houses with zero downs "victims." I have been struggling with my adjustable rate mortgage and I can see it going up again to cover for all these "victims."
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:24:41am |
re: #327 Shiplord Kirel
Yea...and, imagine that, they're a little upset: Officials say Taliban mad over alleged US strike
The Taliban are unusually angry about the latest suspected U.S. missile strike in Pakistan, a sign a top militant may have died in the attack, officials and residents said Sunday amid reports the death toll rose by two to 24.
ahhhh...so solly.
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Born Again Republican Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:25:04am |
re: #311 DeerMusic
A question for which I have not found an answer: as the situation in Iraq increasingly improved -- taking away an important issue for Democrats -- the economy went increasingly into decline. Has anyone speculated whether someone like Soros, with his billions, could have had a hand in some of the key factors (such as oil speculation) affecting the economy? It just seemed timed too well to be a mere coincidence.
I was wondering the same when I came across this great read from American Thinker. You decide.
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:28:23am |
re: #331 littleoldlady
Thanks to OJ I believe in KARMA.
The "good news" of this last week's news cycle? (Heh.)
re: #335 MandyManners
Countrywide Home Loans filed for foreclosure last year, and Polk's home was sold to Fannie Mae at a sheriff's auction in June
Dodd's good buddies?
Loan enough to a senior who owns their home free and clear so that the payment is at least 50% of their net fixed income (on a short-term ARM)...wait in the shadows to foreclose and re-sell at a very nice profit. Happened a few years ago to my aunt-in-law in Phoenix.
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DeerMusic Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:29:21am |
re: #343 Born Again Republican
Thank you B.A.R. I'll read it as soon as I return from Dreamland (4:30 am here). Eyelids slamming shut now... 'night all.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:31:33am |
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:31:36am |
re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Great...just friggin great. Our primary ally{sigh}. War on Taliban cannot be won, says army chief
Yea....Let's Make A Deal! I mean, the Paki's deals with the Taliban work out so well and all.
"Well, I say, the last time we chaps tried to mess with Afghan-ih-staan... well, read your Kipling."
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USA Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:31:38am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Can't wait to see who Palin eats for breakfast today.
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:33:17am |
re: #341 yah
I really feel for the poor woman, but I wonder how many other peoples mortgages will be forgiven. Judges can now decide how much interest and the balance of your mortgage. The MSM are calling all these poor people who bought houses with zero downs "victims." I have been struggling with my adjustable rate mortgage and I can see it going up again to cover for all these "victims."
Not fun at all.
Each of us with a mortgage had every opportunity to really, really look at what we were getting ourselves into...yet...
HOW MANY BORROWERS ACTUALLY READ THE DOCUMENTS?!
/Obviously, from the article, one of the conditions of the bailout is that we can just shoot ourselves (wound only) and have it forgiven.
//not an option for me...I'm a coward! LOL
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:34:21am |
re: #348 USA
Good Morning Lizards!
Can't wait to see who Palin eats for breakfast today.
Palin plans campaign strategery with a group of, er, right-wing cultural activists.
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formercorpsman Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:35:22am |
re: #324 Walter L. Newton
Walter, I am sorry to hear that. IT sucks huge to have to go through what you did, (the whole bowl of wax that is) and I am someone who is always critical of the herbal answer to everything.
Man, if that were me, I would have had some fun with him.
Allergic reactions, burning pee, insomnia....
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:35:37am |
re: #351 Shiplord Kirel
That most be the Society For Creative Norsemenism.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:36:54am |
re: #343 Born Again Republican
I was wondering the same when I came across this great read from American Thinker. You decide.
I didn't see the following in that article.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:37:13am |
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:37:55am |
re: #344 gettinby
Loan enough to a senior who owns their home free and clear so that the payment is at least 50% of their net fixed income (on a short-term ARM)...wait in the shadows to foreclose and re-sell at a very nice profit. Happened a few years ago to my aunt-in-law in Phoenix.
When will those ads go away on television?
What about a reverse mortgage?
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Luigi Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:38:42am |
Traction.
From CNN..
Palin hits Obama for 'terrorist' connection
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Here's the AP instructing America in the wrongness of the charge:
[Link: ap.google.com...]
Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists
By JIM KUHNHENN – 8 hours ago
CARSON, Calif., (AP) — Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists" because of an association with a former '60s radical, stepping up an effort to portray Obama as unacceptable to American voters.
Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. Its members were blamed for several bombings, including a pipe bomb in San Francisco that killed a police officer and injured another. Obama, who was a child when the group was active, has denounced Ayers' radical views and activities.
While it is known that Obama and Ayers live in the same Chicago neighborhood, served on a charity board together and had a fleeting political connection, there is no evidence that they ever palled around. And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts.
Nonetheless, Palin made the comments at two appearances in separate states.
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:41:09am |
re: #350 taxfreekiller
Of note on "wait in the shadows to foreclose"
Its called "loan to own lending" its not new.
What is new is that the U.S. Government is now the worlds largest
"loan to own lender" and they have a mortgage on "We the Peoples" ass's and they used a forged Power of Attorney to sign off on the note.like that, when they want your home, "Who ya gonna Call" ?
Excellent definition!
And scarey as hell, to boot.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:44:39am |
"I joined forces with Professor Jeffrey Sachs of Harvard University, who was advocating a similar program, and sponsored his work in Poland through the Stefan Batory Foundation . . . The IMF approved and the program went into effect on Jan. 1, 1990. It was very tough on the population, but people were willing to take a lot of pain in order to see real change."
Poland was only a start, however; far more important to his goals was his association in 1991-92 with Russia's "reformist" leaders Anatoly Chubais and Yegor Gaidar and their Harvard guru Sachs. Within a year of their "shock therapy," hyperinflation had wiped out Russians' savings and the long-suffering middle class with it. Pensioners were literally starving. The parallel "privatization" of Russia's huge resources-timber, oil, gas, chemicals, media-created the robber oligarchs and contributed to Russia's effective deindustrialization. The country was lowered into neocolonial dependence: a supplier of energy and raw materials and an importer of high technology and manufactured goods. Nevertheless, in early 1993, Soros felt that Russia had not gone far enough: "The social safety net would also provide a powerful incentive to shut down loss-making enterprises. Factories could be idled and the raw materials and energy that go into production could be sold for more than the output."
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:45:38am |
re: #357 MandyManners
When will those ads go away on television?
What about a reverse mortgage?
Good question. I don't know enough about a reverse mortgage to give a knowledgeable opinion, but I think when the owner/borrower dies or leaves the home, the bank just gets the home (unless the loan gets paid off somehow)?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:46:41am |
re: #359 Luigi
Traction.
From CNN..
Palin hits Obama for 'terrorist' connection
[Link: www.cnn.com...]Here's the AP instructing America in the wrongness of the charge:
[Link: ap.google.com...]
Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists
Hey, AP? They served on TWO boards together, and Ayers made his "no regrets" interview more than a year before BHO quit the Woods Fund.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:47:46am |
re: #362 gettinby
Good question. I don't know enough about a reverse mortgage to give a knowledgeable opinion, but I think when the owner/borrower dies or leaves the home, the bank just gets the home (unless the loan gets paid off somehow)?
Does their estate pay off the rest?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:48:16am |
re: #361 MandyManners
It was after this that the Russian mafia flourished.
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Geepers Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:48:25am |
Luigi (#359),
From your link:
And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts.
OK, first off Jim, you disingenuous fuck, no one is suggesting that.
And secondly, thanks for admitting straight up that Ayers is a terrorist.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:48:54am |
re: #343 Born Again Republican
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
I hope a lot of people get to read that. It makes me feel that even if McCain wins this country is lost - was lost a long time ago. It was started with "social security."
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:52:16am |
re: #359 Luigi
That CNN even mentioned Ayers and referred to him as a (scare quotes) "terrorist" in their headline is a good start.
That "The reference was to..." paragraph is especially revealing, in a Pravda sort of way. "You see, audience, Mr. Ayres is someone we could have told you about, and that Senator Obama felt the need to denounce him, but we here at CNN didn't consider Dear Leader's association with Mr. Ayres newsworthy."
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Born Again Republican Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:54:18am |
re: #367 yah
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
I hope a lot of people get to read that. It makes me feel that even if McCain wins this country is lost - was lost a long time ago. It was started with "social security."
Not lost yet but we do have a fight on our hands.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:55:18am |
I wonder what we'd be discussing today if the feds had not screwed up when surveilling Ayers and Dohrn.
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:56:42am |
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:57:15am |
re: #371 MandyManners
I wonder what we'd be discussing today if the feds had not screwed up when surveilling Ayers and Dohrn.
McCain vs. Clinton?
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:57:35am |
re: #349 gettinby
Each of us with a mortgage had every opportunity to really, really look at what we were getting ourselves into...yet...
I was told my loan was fixed - as were many others, but there was some loophole for the lender. It was Ameriquest and they lost a class action law suit against them because they lied. But all I won was that there would be no prepayment penalty if I refinanced. Well, refinancing costs a lot of money and I am not willing to pay for appraisals, title insurance, points and on on on.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Oct 5, 2008 4:58:38am |
re: #368 Dar ul Harb
"And it's only newsworthy now to the extent we need to denounce Sarah Palin's malicious rumormongering about Dear Leader."
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:00:53am |
re: #378 gettinby
Hello and good morning!
{gettinby}
How are you doing? My boys and I are doing better. The sunshine this morning helps so much.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:03:45am |
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:05:47am |
I'm sick of TV Land's re-running the Extreme Makeover show. GIMME' SOME OLD SIT-COMS!
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formercorpsman Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:05:51am |
re: #349 gettinby
To be honest, and I do agree with you, most folks are not up to the task of mentally digesting that amount of information.
I know, it is not an excuse. I am not so quick however, to let the lending institutions of so quick either. Many of them were brokered. The broker doing the paperwork usually have state laws they play fast and loose with in order to get their commission.
In essence, you are paying them for the service, and in that service, it is incumbent upon them to abide with ethical standards.
I am in medicine, have been for 19 years now. Even though I have someone sign a surgical permit, after going through all of the potential bad things, there is a core principle on our part as the caregiver to provide the service in good conscience.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:07:07am |
re: #381 MandyManners
I'm sick of TV Land's re-running the Extreme Makeover show.
Show really needs a makeover.
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JustMyView Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:07:10am |
re: #341 yah
I really feel for the poor woman, but I wonder how many other peoples mortgages will be forgiven. Judges can now decide how much interest and the balance of your mortgage. The MSM are calling all these poor people who bought houses with zero downs "victims." I have been struggling with my adjustable rate mortgage and I can see it going up again to cover for all these "victims."
Your mortgage can only go up within the limits that were specified when you took it out. Are those limits affected by whether other people are repaying their mortgages? I could be wrong, but I wouldn't think so.
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Stonemason Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:08:00am |
re: #244 littleoldlady
Mel! :-)
Nope. Phillies.
/not much better, is it?
Sure it is, really, honestly, it is sooo much....
Aww heck, I think I am trying too hard
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:09:44am |
re: #376 yah
I was told my loan was fixed - as were many others, but there was some loophole for the lender. It was Ameriquest and they lost a class action law suit against them because they lied. But all I won was that there would be no prepayment penalty if I refinanced. Well, refinancing costs a lot of money and I am not willing to pay for appraisals, title insurance, points and on on on.
Most 1st mortgages don't have a prepayment penalty anyway (that I'm aware of).
If you have even a little bit of equity, you can re-fi and have the closing costs put into the new loan...BUT, YOU, THE BORROWER, must be AGGRESSIVE about controlling those costs. The title insurance should only be a small amount as the new insurance will only have to search back to your original policy for example. Shop around for the lowest points charged (broker and lender). Your survey should be low-cost as you can just go back to the original company that did it and just pay for a re-fi update.
For not a lot of money, find a good (and honest) real-estate attorney to protect you during this process. As an average citizen, many of us really don't understand this process, and for such a large sum of money, it's never wise to go into such a contract without full and complete knowledge of what we're doing (and signing).
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:10:00am |
If Palin keeps up the pressure (and I have every expectation that she will), the MSM will have to report "the news we kept to ourselves" about Obama, just in the same fashion Pravda reported about Reagan.
Above all, we must realize that no arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have. It is a weapon that we as Americans do have. Let that be understood by those who practice terrorism and prey upon their neighbors.
--President Ronald Reagan, first inaugural address, January 20, 1981
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DistantThunder Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:10:16am |
The ex-KGB guy in this video says the second step of marxist take-over is economic destabilization. The first step is demoralization, not making people feel sad, but getting them to give up being moral. Then they literally stop being able to tell fact from fiction.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:12:57am |
re: #384 JustMyView
Your mortgage can only go up within the limits that were specified when you took it out.
Well that limit is tied into an index - my payment has actually gone down in the last year. But I see it going up to the max. Hope I am wrong.
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Stonemason Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:13:05am |
re: #369 Born Again Republican
Not lost yet but we do have a fight on our hands.
And that fight will be long and difficult, but Americans, true Americans (made up of an incredible amount of differing backgrounds) will eventually prevail. Part of our strength is an innate memory of why our own ancestors came here in the first place, whether it was yesterday, 300 years ago like one side of my family, or 1913 like the other side of the family.
We will prevail, too much at stake, and the middle of this country, seemingly mired in apathy, will join us.
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right_wing2 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:14:33am |
We've got to do whatever we can, within the law (just to stop the Kos Kiddies from melting down even further) to stop the Obamessiah from winning. Americans need to learn just how far to the left he is. His associations with American terrorists and other questionable associates, sweetheart real estate deals, his 'further-to-the-left-than-Hillary-or-Ted-Kennedy' voting record, his record on gun rights, and everything else that shows his true colors.
If he wins, I weep for the future of America.
WASS- We Are So Screwed
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JustMyView Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:14:52am |
re: #389 yah
Well that limit is tied into an index - my payment has actually gone down in the last year. But I see it going up to the max. Hope I am wrong.
Right, but it was your comment re the repayment rates of other borrowers that caught my eye. Presumably, that index wouldn't be affected by whether other borrowers were repaying their mortgages. Again, I'm not an expert, but that connection seemed a little odd to me.
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:14:55am |
re: #382 formercorpsman
To be honest, and I do agree with you, most folks are not up to the task of mentally digesting that amount of information.
I know, it is not an excuse. I am not so quick however, to let the lending institutions of so quick either. Many of them were brokered. The broker doing the paperwork usually have state laws they play fast and loose with in order to get their commission.
In essence, you are paying them for the service, and in that service, it is incumbent upon them to abide with ethical standards.
I am in medicine, have been for 19 years now. Even though I have someone sign a surgical permit, after going through all of the potential bad things, there is a core principle on our part as the caregiver to provide the service in good conscience.
You're right...it IS more than we average folks can digest and understand. And it would be wonderful if everyone I'm dealing with would be as ethical and I am...but, they're not.
If I don't understand (even a tiny bit) of what I'm signing, I DON'T SIGN IT.
The bottom line for me, personally, is because I did understand what I've signed, if it's a bad/raw deal, I can only blame myself!
LOL
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Spirit93 Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:15:06am |
re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Great...just friggin great. Our primary ally{sigh}. War on Taliban cannot be won, says army chief
Yea....Let's Make A Deal! I mean, the Paki's deals with the Taliban work out so well and all.
Just incredible. What does he think he can negotiate about with the taliban? Is he related to Chamberlain? Or just insane?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:15:16am |
re: #386 gettinby
For not a lot of money, find a good (and honest) real-estate attorney to protect you during this process. As an average citizen, many of us really don't understand this process, and for such a large sum of money, it's never wise to go into such a contract without full and complete knowledge of what we're doing (and signing).
I just don't understand people who buy a house without an attorney. The last house my parents bought, they paid in cash yet they still had an attorney.
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Stonemason Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:16:41am |
re: #386 gettinby
I am not a money guy, so take this with that disclaimer. The word I have been hearing is that for the foreseeable future many lenders will 're-cast in place' the ARM's that may not be in trouble right now but could be in the future. One of the best things to do when owing anyone any money that one may have trouble repaying is to communicate with the note-holder. So many people are surprised when lenders listen, but they do, they want their money, and are usually willing to work with the borrower.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:16:42am |
re: #394 Spirit93
Just incredible. What does he think he can negotiate about with the taliban? Is he related to Chamberlain? Or just insane?
Yes.
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formercorpsman Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:17:31am |
re: #393 gettinby
We agree.
Am I living in folly? For some reason, I just seem to thing we actually had a time in this country, when a handshake did actually carry an element of honesty.
Maybe it is just wishful remembrance on my part.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:17:53am |
G'deeeeevening Lizards, how's the new day coming along on the other side of the world?
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akak Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:18:40am |
Damn. Israeli stocks down 6-10 %, hope it's not so rough elsewhere tomorrow.
TA 25 -6.26%
TA 100 -6.50%
TelTech15 -9.84%
TA 75 -7.49%
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:18:47am |
re: #398 formercorpsman
We agree.
Am I living in folly? For some reason, I just seem to thing we actually had a time in this country, when a handshake did actually carry an element of honesty.
Maybe it is just wishful remembrance on my part.
A handshake does not equal a contract.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:20:05am |
re: #386 gettinby
I checked into a new loan a few months ago - it would cost me about $7,000 - And I don't want that rolled into the new loan.
Thank You for the advice. I may start looking again after the election and holidays and will get an attorney to look things over for me. I will also use a local bank.
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formercorpsman Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:20:11am |
re: #401 MandyManners
I know, I know.
I'm pining for the days where your reputation was something to be upheld.
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Stonemason Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:22:21am |
re: #398 formercorpsman
We are still here, the handshake men and women, and we vote. Sometimes we vote with our wallets by not dealing with a scoundrel, sometimes we vote with our voices, denouncing the scoundrels in public or where they do business, and we can always vote out the public scoundrels in November!
The more of us that do not give up, that instill the handshake mentality in our children, the better chance we have of coming out on the other side of this century as an even stronger country then we are now.
And yes, we are still the strongest country in the world, if we weren't we wouldn't still be the target of the rhetoric of those weaker nations we constantly save.
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:23:14am |
re: #390 Stonemason
And that fight will be long and difficult, but Americans, true Americans (made up of an incredible amount of differing backgrounds) will eventually prevail. Part of our strength is an innate memory of why our own ancestors came here in the first place, whether it was yesterday, 300 years ago like one side of my family, or 1913 like the other side of the family.
We will prevail, too much at stake, and the middle of this country, seemingly mired in apathy, will join us.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my experience, even with just one individual, is that if I'm happy, successful, doing well, appear without-worry, etc., that many will automatically and immediately hate me and try to attack/change me.
I liken this to our great country. We are beautiful, successful, doing well (until last week anyway), and pretty much appear without major worries.
Guess what I'm trying to say is that we'll probably ALWAYS have a fight to keep it, and too many of our citizens just aren't up to it anymore. Maybe it's because they've lost the ability to see the bigger picture?
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:25:19am |
re: #403 formercorpsman
I know, I know.
I'm pining for the days where your reputation was something to be upheld.
I like what Judge Milian in the People's Court says people who don't have a signed contract are called: litigants.
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Stonemason Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:25:21am |
re: #401 MandyManners
It still does for me, honestly it does. I told a gentleman two weeks ago I would build his patio for $3500, we shook hands, and when the patio was done I asked for $3500 even though the stones he had me use were smaller than I expected and I made about 5% less per hour than I like to earn. No paper work, no contract, and a job I personally stand by for as long as the family is in the house.
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yah Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:25:25am |
re: #392 JustMyView
I hope you are right! But the way I see it is that those who are paying have got to pay for all those who are not paying. I am no expert, but it just seems logical.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:26:59am |
re: #404 Stonemason
And yes, we are still the strongest country in the world, if we weren't we wouldn't still be the target of the rhetoric of those weaker nations we constantly save.
If we're so bad, why are people willing to risk their lives to get here?! Why do pregnant women go to incredible lengths to give birth here?!
It's ENVY.
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gettinby Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:28:37am |
re: #398 formercorpsman
We agree.
Am I living in folly? For some reason, I just seem to thing we actually had a time in this country, when a handshake did actually carry an element of honesty.
Maybe it is just wishful remembrance on my part.
We've lived and come up from the same era it appears.
/AND I MISS IT!
At one point, we never locked our homes or cars. Like you said, a lot of business was done on a handshake. We knew our neighbors would come through if we experienced any troubles. We could go out and play for hours without our parents having to worry so much (as long as we stayed on our own block). It's all pretty much lost now.
/I blame Carter. :)
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:29:16am |
re: #407 Stonemason
It still does for me, honestly it does. I told a gentleman two weeks ago I would build his patio for $3500, we shook hands, and when the patio was done I asked for $3500 even though the stones he had me use were smaller than I expected and I made about 5% less per hour than I like to earn. No paper work, no contract, and a job I personally stand by for as long as the family is in the house.
What if a visitor to the house trips over a stone, is injured and winds up suing the homeowner? Will his insurer come after you? Would an indemnity clause protect you?
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:29:16am |
re: #405 gettinby
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my experience, even with just one individual, is that if I'm happy, successful, doing well, appear without-worry, etc., that many will automatically and immediately hate me and try to attack/change me.
I liken this to our great country. We are beautiful, successful, doing well (until last week anyway), and pretty much appear without major worries.
Guess what I'm trying to say is that we'll probably ALWAYS have a fight to keep it, and too many of our citizens just aren't up to it anymore. Maybe it's because they've lost the ability to see the bigger picture?
OMG, that has happened to me, too!
One of my EH's last complaints about me was that I was "too good" and saw everything in terms of "black and white."
Yeah, trying to live one's religious ideals is a horrible thing...
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Stonemason Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:30:44am |
re: #405 gettinby
Maybe it's because they've lost the ability to see the bigger picture?
As I put it, seemingly apathetic. They know the bigger picture is there, it just isn't right in front of them, they are too busy with living to be terribly worried about it. These are the folk that make up the bulk of the country, they work, pay bills, make kids, and live and die in the same basic geographic area. America is still America, some of us overdose on the issues, and others simply, comfortably, wander around the issues.
When it comes to it though, those are the ones who will be fighting for us, literally, as they always have.
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MandyManners Sun, Oct 5, 2008 5:31:25am |
