Ayers makes my blood boil.

RACIST!

Somehow that's racism; AP says so.

Ayers, the shxx head. Obama, the phony.

Isn't this a shocker. Bet it will be all OVER the news today!

Barack Obama does not deserve the honor of President of the United States.

and anyway, it's already in the bag for 'bama... Wife and I are pricing land overseas.

I wish I were kidding, but I want a backup plan in case he and a dem controlled congress are able to do to this country what Ayers is doing in that lovely photo op.

I don't know whether or not the American public is up to understanding all the intricacies of Ayers' and bH0's "special relationship," but I sure do hope that they understand that they hate what America stands for.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Sarah Palin, keep talking about this to our country! And, thank you!

but... CNN says... they hardly know each other...

That was just metaphoric symbolism for his past for an article that just happened to be published on 9/11! Stop blowing things out of proportion!

/teh spin

someone should photoshop Obambi into that photo.....

Ronald Reagan never entered the Oval office without putting on his jacket. He had such respect for the office.

To think that in just 30 years that a man who is friends with America hating racists, terrorists and criminals could sit in that office and have people call him Mr President makes me physically ill.

NYT article about it.

Just three comments in passing.
1. Will the facts surface in tim?
2. Will the MSM effectivelly keep the voters from knowing the facts?
3. Will Charles fix the syntax on this thread title?
We know who stepped on the flag but still.
/headed out

what was the other story on CNN - Obama is not popular in the Appalachias... I assume that's code for rubes ain't ready for no black president.

It could also be translated as the hicks think it's gun clingin' time - same thing, smart people like Obama, don't you get it yet? Big brother will explain it all, nice and slow so you all get it.

You want to get it, don't you? Don't tell me 2+2 is 5 because that's what you think I want you to say; say it because you believe it....

I fear we're going to need a radical and profound wake-up call this month in order for John and Sarah to win. Something that the MSM cannot possibly spin to BO's favor. I also fear that, whatever that wake-up call may be, many could be hurt.

The dominate unprofessional liberal media has no interest in this information.
They will continue to lie, corrupt as they are...

re: #14 lifeofthemind

Just three comments in passing.
1. Will the facts surface in tim?
2. Will the MSM effectivelly keep the voters from knowing the facts?
3. Will Charles fix the syntax on this thread title?
We know who stepped on the flag but still.
/headed out

I'm sure BO stepped on the flag at least once while in Indonesia or Pakistan.

Some of my best aquaintances in the neighborhood are flag-steppers. People I know through my kids school and soccer practice and stuff like that.

Time for some honest dialogue. Thank you Sarah for raising this issue back to the American people. It is one thing to work for positive change but it is quite another to work to destroy this beautiful country and spit on its symbols because you are a snide snotty nosed wealthy jerk who didn't have to go to jail for your actions cause daddy bailed you out with his deep pocket connections...

Is that a run on sentence? My bad.

The only upside I see to our lame MSM is that, since they haven't done their job to date exposing what BHO is all about, most of this scandalous history of his is still there to expose during the run-up to the election. Now, it will probably be up to the blogosphere to once again push this stuff onto the American consciousness in whatever way possible because the MSM will do whatever it can to obscure, hide or deny bh0's real records.

The MSM makes me sick.

I curse Ayers to the foulest pit of hell for standing on our country's flag.

And you see where 0bama gets his attitude towards Old GLory "that pin".

*spit*

McCain has got to call 0bama on this.

Why is it every election of late makes me increase my weapons and ammunition stores?

/faith in the future, I guess.

re: #19 Pastorius

Some of my best aquaintances in the neighborhood are flag-steppers. People I know through my kids school and soccer practice and stuff like that.

And it's their absolute and inalienable right to do so...but you're not running for president, so it makes little difference that you might know these people well. Barry on the other hand...

obama has stomped on the flag everywhere he goes.
apologizing for how bad america is to anyone who will listen.
how america is broken.
how america is "no longer the country it could be"
how america is looked down on by the rest of the world.

obama is an american flag stomping traitor himself.

That flag Ayers is standing on isn't just a piece of cloth, it's all of us.

My wife and I disconnected with a homeschooling group because the "organizer" was anti-public school. Obama may have been 8 when Ayers was doing his "thang" but he was up to his eyeballs in cohoots with Ayers when that article came out.

That article was in the newspaper that many people carried into the World Trade Center on their last day of life.

re: #19 Pastorius

Some of my best aquaintances in the neighborhood are flag-steppers. People I know through my kids school and soccer practice and stuff like that.

With acquaintances like that, looks like you picked a fucked neighborhood to live in. Well I certainly hope you never make the mistake of telling any of them that you love your country.

re: #20 WinterCat

Time for some honest dialogue. Thank you Sarah for raising this issue back to the American people. It is one thing to work for positive change but it is quite another to work to destroy this beautiful country and spit on its symbols because you are a snide snotty nosed wealthy jerk who didn't have to go to jail for your actions cause daddy bailed you out with his deep pocket connections...

Is that a run on sentence? My bad.

I'm not defending Ayers but, he and Dohrn walked because the feds screwed up in the surveillance of them.

I wish "1984" was on more reading lists; I also wish people really got how we're going down that path.

Maybe Nine Inch Nails would be easier - just keep playing happiness in slavery... The government has grown way beyond anything that we control any more; I don't know what else you can call it but a nanny / welfare state.

I used to think it fed on success, but I now think there is a real hatred of success, excellence in our government. Maybe it's fear, but I don't see Washington as the face of We The People any more...

"I want to campaign the same way I govern, which is to respond directly and forcefully with the truth,"
~ Barack Obama, 11/08/07

Sure you do, Barry.

re: #26 jaunte

That flag Ayers is standing on isn't just a piece of cloth, it's all of us.

it's everything we believe in and stand for.
and that weasel is showing what he would do to us, if he had power.

re: #30 brent

I wish "1984" was on more reading lists; I also wish people really got how we're going down that path.

Maybe Nine Inch Nails would be easier - just keep playing happiness in slavery... The government has grown way beyond anything that we control any more; I don't know what else you can call it but a nanny / welfare state.

I used to think it fed on success, but I now think there is a real hatred of success, excellence in our government. Maybe it's fear, but I don't see Washington as the face of We The People any more...

Successful/excellent people go to the private sector now. There's almost nothing admirable about serving in government anymore.

No doubt in the next few days we will hear the Rovian talking points disseminated by the right-wing smear machine. They will attempt to spread the preposterous smear that somehow Barack Obama is connected to alleged terrorist activities of noted Chicago educator and philanthropist Bill Ayers.

/sarc

I can't login to LGF from FireFox. I had to switch to IE. Only the middle column is viewable in FireFox. But using IE it's fine. It was working about an hour ago fine.

re: #6 brent

and anyway, it's already in the bag for 'bama... Wife and I are pricing land overseas.

I wish I were kidding, but I want a backup plan in case he and a dem controlled congress are able to do to this country what Ayers is doing in that lovely photo op.

Brent,

I understand your concern. My question is, "What other country offers what this one does even with bHo at the helm?"

Hey, come on, Obama was only, er, 40 years old at the time! He was just a mere callow youth!

And in fact, he still is.

re: #7 Irene NYC

I don't know whether or not the American public is up to understanding all the intricacies of Ayers' and bH0's "special relationship," but I sure do hope that they understand that they hate what America stands for. A picture is worth a thousand words.

The John Q. Citizen has been lead down a contrived path that has been engineered by the Dems. Even though Obama voted for the bailout, his campaign has managed to paint the Repubs as the cause of this problem AND Bushes initial bailout proposal as just more of the same mismanged government.

These Americans will flock to him. Everything he promises is utopian in nature. And those kind of promises are best made when a country is in the sort of pickle that we are.

I really believe (gut feeling, no real hard proof) that this has been smartly put together by a number of puppet masters (ie: Soros) to bring us right to this point.

And the only way that this MAY be stopped is if McCain starts talking hard facts, NOW, no more Mr. Nice guy, no more hands across the aisle, no more maverick (if maverick means working with the Dems).

That's it. Hitler did it in the 30's, riding the coat tails of a financial disaster in Germany. Then, they blamed the Jews, this time they are blaming the conservatives.

And right now, they are winning.

Iwo Jima

Sorry for the drive-by OT

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

WASHINGTON (AP) - By claiming that Democrat Barack Obama is "palling around with terrorists" and doesn't see the U.S. like other Americans, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted key goals for a faltering campaign.

And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret.

Racist
/sarc

re: #27 musicman

My wife and I disconnected with a homeschooling group because the "organizer" was anti-public school.

Um... isn't it sort of par for the course that the organizer of a homeschooling group would be anti-public school?

I mean, by definition...

Slightly OT

I still want to see Obama's dissertations (his thesis from Columbia, and his dissertation from Harvard)...I'm also wondering if Hussein isn't number impaired? Is he "number blind"? He's consistently made errors with numbers -- whether it's recalling the number of States in the union, to recalling the number of years he's been married, to recalling what age he was when event X occurred...I find it curious...

Hi lizards
Weird. I couldn't log in through the comments-only through the top left log-in place. I got 'authentication failure'.

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

Agree 100%. Soros, in one word.

/Hey, what's a little terrorism between friends?

(This is actually the MSM attitude.)

re: #29 MandyManners

Then truly my bad on that fact. Got a little emotional there for a second. Let me restate that...

It is one thing to work for positive change but it is quite another to work to destroy this beautiful country and spit on its symbols because you are a snide snotty nosed wealthy jerk who got off because the feds screwed up and not because you weren't guilty as sin...

How's that? ; )

I agree the public sector is where excellence can go to grow in the US, but I also see the government declaring war on that sector.

What's the message of the bailout? We need to punish those bad CEOs. Not ACORN, no - we'll give them a cut. Barry, Chrissie, Barnes? They all need to step up their diligent monitoring...

Sorry, I gagged on my cereal a bit. But you see where I'm going here? Business, bad. Big Brother, good.

ALL blogs need to push this, Jeremiah Wright (why hasn't anyone investigated what days he sat in that church? Did he ACTUALLY hear any sermons?), Rezko...alll day, all night...24/7. Eventually the MSM will be forced into covering it. McCain NEEDS to talk about this stuff Tuesday. Now, the Oslama campaign is ALREADY saying "it is just a distraction", simply because they do not want the poeple to talk about it and actually get some freaking facts. McCain needs to go hard here, now.

McCain needs to remember that if he had a long-standing relationship with someone who used to bomb abortion clinics, his campaign would've been over a long time ago. He needs to go after Obama about this Tuesday night and not let up.

Does Barak Obama really believe that red-blooded Americans with love of their country will swallow his vision of the USA without a fight? I don't mean a "fight" like the one a politician would do, I mean a pitchfork and torches protect American values kind of fight.

re: #40 jorline

Sorry for the drive-by OT

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

Racist
/sarc

yep, it's a political lynching just like the Fannie mae hearings

disagree with BO and you're a racist

re: #40 jorline

Sorry for the drive-by OT

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

Racist
/sarc

Saw that. What a freaking joke. It has become more than amusing now. It is just plain sickening thier love for this guy...

re: #32 nyc redneck

{nyc redneck}

Question for you-are you in the city next weekend? My Dad will be in NYC. He's met a couple lizards there before, but I wanted to see if you would like to maybe have lunch or a coffee with him-he's a (lurking) lizard.

re: #40 jorline

Sorry for the drive-by OT

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

Racist
/sarc

Uh, I missed the "racially-tinged subtext." Where was it? Hiding behind the sexist-tinged supertext of the attacks on Palin?

re: #41 Occasional Reader

Um... isn't it sort of par for the course that the organizer of a homeschooling group would be anti-public school?

I mean, by definition...

No, we started homeschooling because we felt it was what God wanted us to do. This man was radically anti-public school and had some moms worried to answer their front door for fear it was the government checking up on them. As a matter of fact our biggest supporter was the principal at the elementary school. She was our biggest source of help when we needed it.

re: #51 spidly

Hahaha. I thought that said racial "thingie".

LOL. I didn't sleep much.

JSK,

That was a sarcastic joke on my part.

I guess I should have added sarc tags.

re: #30 brent

I wish "1984" was on more reading lists; I also wish people really got how we're going down that path.

Maybe Nine Inch Nails would be easier - just keep playing happiness in slavery... The government has grown way beyond anything that we control any more; I don't know what else you can call it but a nanny / welfare state.

I used to think it fed on success, but I now think there is a real hatred of success, excellence in our government. Maybe it's fear, but I don't see Washington as the face of We The People any more...

The problem is 1984 is also standard leftist and Paulista reading for the anti-Patriot Act crowd. I prefer Animal Farm.

re: #32 nyc redneck

it's everything we believe in and stand for.
and that weasel is showing what he would do to us, if he had power.

He will have the power - as behind-the-scenes counsellor to B0, if that empty suit does get elected.

#36 other country..

Honestly, none... I was thinking a quiet farm in Chile might be a good way to get away, but in reality I'm sure I'll be here doing what I'm doing now.

I'll just expect to see 15% less of the money I make coming back to me, and I'll have to work that much longer to get to a good retirement nest egg. At least the poor in this country can still have their Ipods....

Let's not forget BHO's crotch-shot.

re: #49 sardonic

McCain needs to remember that if he had a long-standing relationship with someone who used to bomb abortion clinics, his campaign would've been over a long time ago. He needs to go after Obama about this Tuesday night and not let up.

Agree...DO NOT GIVE IN. He better make sure he has his facts straight and can slam Barry when he tries to back out of it. I am sure Barry will say Ayers did that when he was 8. McCain needs to come back with the launching of his career at his house, sitting on boards with hom and working intimately directing money from foundations, etc. DO NOT LET HIM BRUSH IT ASIDE.

re: #40 jorline

Sorry for the drive-by OT

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

Racist
/sarc

Ayers is black? Arabic?

The relationship with Ayetrs is muvh closer than Barry wants people to believe.
Ayers hosted Obamas first political event at his house.
Obama was appointed to Annenberg by Ayers, where he funded Ayers projects.
Ayers babysat the Obama children
Now the Woods Foundation.
The Obama campaign weak explanation that the Obamas casually know the Ayers, because their children went to school together is absurd.
The Obama children are in grade school, while Ayers children are adults.
Show me your frinds & I'll tell you what you are.

Ayers whitewash by the NYT.

re: #40 jorline

Sorry for the drive-by OT

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

Racist
/sarc

Oh my God. Liberal self-parody... it would be funny if it weren't so infuriating. From your link:

For the McCain campaign, that makes Obama's ties to Ayers as well as convicted felon Antoin "Tony" Rezko and the controversial minister Jeremiah Wright ripe for renewed criticism. And Palin brings a fresh voice to the argument.

Effective character attacks have come earlier in campaigns. In June 1988, Republican George H.W. Bush criticized Democrat Michael Dukakis over the furlough granted to Willie Horton, a convicted murderer who then raped a woman and stabbed her companion.

Ummm, for one thing, the Willie Horton ads had nothing to do with Dukakis' "associations". They weren't saying Dukakis, say, lauched his political career at the home of Willie Horton. So, apples and oranges.

For another, the Horton ads were perfectly legitimate. A convicted murdered got a "weekend furlough", during which he brutally raped a woman. The bright idea to give murderers "weekend furloughs" was thought up by Mike Dukakis, sooper-genius. Legitimate political criticism, libs, get the f**k over it.

re: #14 lifeofthemind

Pretty critical post...maybe you should also check your own post.

Will the facts surface in tim?

Who is Tim-and why would he be stuffed with facts?

re: #46 WinterCat

Then truly my bad on that fact. Got a little emotional there for a second. Let me restate that...

It is one thing to work for positive change but it is quite another to work to destroy this beautiful country and spit on its symbols because you are a snide snotty nosed wealthy jerk who got off because the feds screwed up and not because you weren't guilty as sin...

How's that? ; )

LOL!

I somehow don't think a public defender would've had the resources that Ayers' daddy did when it came time to look at the Constitutional grounds in the surveillance.

re: #53 WriterMom

{nyc redneck}

Question for you-are you in the city next weekend? My Dad will be in NYC. He's met a couple lizards there before, but I wanted to see if you would like to maybe have lunch or a coffee with him-he's a (lurking) lizard.

hey {WriterMom}
i would love to meet your dad. i'll be back in the city wed. until sun.
can i e-mail you w/ info when i get back?

re: #41 Occasional Reader

Um... isn't it sort of par for the course that the organizer of a homeschooling group would be anti-public school?

I mean, by definition...

More importantly, what's wrong with being anti-public education? Public education sucks, it has become little more than socialist/communist indoctrination of the young. Their single solitary solution to every single educational problem is to demand more money. The (NEA) teachers union is a blatant violation of every basic democratic principal and represents nothing less than a illegal monopoly whose sole purpose is to perpetuate it's own existence.

re: #43 WriterMom

Hi lizards
Weird. I couldn't log in through the comments-only through the top left log-in place. I got 'authentication failure'.

I get the same thing. I can login with IE in the upper left login but not on the comments. It doesn't work at all in FireFox 3.03. Charles must have changed something.

/So do you suppose back in 2001, the first time Obama saw Ayers after the Chicago Mag story, he said, "Great pic of you stepping on the flag, Bill?"

The NYT already published its preemptive whitewash yesterday. Over at the Corner, Stanley Kurtz gives it a proper fisking. He has become the leading expert on the Ayers connection but so far he's only been on Fox News twice while the other outlets ignore it. McCain needs to hammer away at this thing. The number one thing that can help him, IMHO, is the picture of Ayers stomping on the flag, published on 9/11/01. Put those two things together and it will hit America right in the gut.

re: #55 musicman

No, we started homeschooling because we felt it was what God wanted us to do.

Okay.

Just curious, on what basis did you reach that conclusion?

Will someone in McCain's camp tell him to address this at the next debate? This is a HUGE issue. It speaks to O's lack of judgment, to his lack of respect and loyalty for our country, and his complete lack of qualifications to be the POTUS and CIF.

re: #59 yma o hyd

He will have the power - as behind-the-scenes counsellor to B0, if that empty suit does get elected.

we'll be fighting the fight of our lives if that happens.
i hate to even think abt. it.

Its OK. . .
Obama didn't read the NYT that week.

re: #69 nyc redneck

Perfect. Here's my e-mail-I'm so happy!

BRB-sour cream coffee cake in the oven...yummy smell...

re: #35 LizardoidCaptain

I can't login to LGF from FireFox. I had to switch to IE. Only the middle column is viewable in FireFox. But using IE it's fine. It was working about an hour ago fine.

You need to refresh the page. I've made a pretty major change in the main template, and you might have caught it right in the middle of uploading the files.

I'm looking at LGF in Firefox 3 right now, and it's working fine...

re: #63 MandyManners

Ayers is black? Arabic?

Or is "terrorist" now considered a race?

I am the Flag of the United States of America. My name is OLDE GLORY.

I fly atop the world's tallest buildings I stand watch in America's Halls of Justice.

I fly majestically over Great Institutions of Learning.

I stand guard with the Greatest Military power in the World.

LOOK UP! and see ME!

I stand for Peace Honor Truth and Justice.

I stand for Freedom!

I am confident I am arrogant I am proud.

When I am flown with my fellow banners, my head is held a little higher - my colors are a little truer

I BOW TO NO ONE!

I am recognized all over the world.

I am worshipped - I am saluted - I am respected - I am Revered - I am loved - I am Feared!

For more than 200 years, I have fought in Every battle of Every war;

Gettysburg, Shiloh, Appomattox, San Juan Hill, The Trenches of France, the Argenne Forest, Anzio, Rome, The Beaches of Normandy

the jungles of Guam, Okinawa, Tarawa, Korea, Vietnam and in the heat of the Persian Gulf and a score of other places.

Long forgotten by all, but those who were there with me.

I was there.

I led my Sailors and Marines,

I followed them, I watch over them, they Love Me.

I was on a small hill on Iwo Jima.

I was dirty battle torn and tired but my Sailors and Marines Cheered Me!

I WAS PROUD!

I have been soiled burned torn and trampled on the streets of countries that I have helped to set Free.

It does not Hurt for I am invincible.

I have been soiled burned torn and trampled on the streets of my own country

And when it is done by those whom with I have served in battle. It HURTS!

But I shall Overcome for I am strong!

I have slipped the surely bounds of earth and, from my vantage point on the moon,

I stand watch over the New Frontiers of Space.

I have been the silent witness to all of America's finest hours.

But my finest hour comes when I am torn into strips,

To be used as bandages for my wounded comrades on the Field of Battle

When I fly half mast to Honor my Sailors and Marines

and when I lie in the trembling arms of a Grieving Mother - at the graveside of her fallen son or daughter

I am proud!

My Name is "Olde Glory" Long May I Wave Dear God, Long may I wave.

re: #73 doppelganglander

The NYT already published its preemptive whitewash yesterday. Over at the Corner, Stanley Kurtz gives it a proper fisking. He has become the leading expert on the Ayers connection but so far he's only been on Fox News twice while the other outlets ignore it. McCain needs to hammer away at this thing. The number one thing that can help him, IMHO, is the picture of Ayers stomping on the flag, published on 9/11/01. Put those two things together and it will hit America right in the gut.

Would be great if McCain had the Ayers picture in his pocket and whipped it out during a discussion Tuesday. I would not answer any questions directly if I was McCain...I would steer all discussion to Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, etc...

re: #74 Occasional Reader

Oh boy...

re: #40 jorline

Sorry for the drive-by OT

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

Racist
/sarc

From that link:

" In a post-Sept. 11 America, terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims, not the homegrown anarchists of Ayers' day 40 years ago. With Obama a relative unknown when he began his campaign, the Internet hummed with false e-mails about ties to radical Islam of a foreign-born candidate.

Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as "not like us" is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.

Most troubling, however, is how allowing racism to creep into the discussion serves McCain's purpose so well. As the fallout from Wright's sermons showed earlier this year, forcing Obama to abandon issues to talk about race leads to unresolved arguments about America's promise to treat all people equally. "

Its not Palin and McCain who 'allow a racist tinge' to 'creep into the campaign' - its the MSM who see and report any proper and above-board attack, nay even the faintest criticism of The One as 'racist'.

Shame on them!

re: #77 looking closely

Its OK. . .
Obama didn't read the NYT that week.

And he can no more disown the NYT than he can disown his racist grandmother.
It's all America's fault, really.

Hope! Change!

I call bullshit on stepping on the flag. This is NOT a means of free speech OR dissent. It is, like flag burning, WILFUL and malicious DESECRATION of our national symbol, and by extension, a denial of the ideas this country was founded on.

re: #79 Charles

Charles, I also had trouble logging in through the comments-I had to do it on the front page. It said authentication failure (IE 6).

re: #43 WriterMom
same here

A short, concise introduction of who William Ayers is and a bit of his connection to BO:

From American Issues Project - the group Obama tried to get shut down a few months back

Because I am feeling generous, I have decided to do an edited repost so as to help Barry write his newest entry for his fight the smears page located here : [Link: www.fightthesmears.com...]

FACT - Barry and Bill Ayers are not friends. They are not, they are not, they are not.

FACT - Barry is not friends with Bernardine Dohrn, either. In fact, he thinks Karl Rove made her up just to make Barry look bad and the Obama/Biden campaign just won't stand for such tactics.

FACT - Barry was 8 when Bill Ayers was part of the 60's community organization group called The Weather Underground. Therefore everything Bill Ayers and his group did doesn't really matter anyway.

FACT - CNN, WashPo and the NYT all agree that Obama was not friends with Ayers so I don't know why we are still even talking about this.

Clearly this is a racist smear on Barry and nothing else. There is nothing to see, nothing to talk about, nothing. So just shut up about this already, just stop bringing it up, just move on. Hope and change!

re: #68 MandyManners

Mandy, did you see this piece on the WAB?:

"...But Michelle could also frustrate her supervisors. Quincy White, the partner who helped recruit Michelle and who headed the marketing group, remembers finding her a challenge to manage. White, who is now retired from the firm, says he gave her the most interesting work he could find, in part because he wanted to see her advance, but also because she seemed perennially dissatisfied.

She was, White recalls, "quite possibly the most ambitious associate that I've ever seen." She wanted significant responsibility right away and was not afraid to object if she wasn't getting what she felt she deserved, he says."

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

re: #79 Charles

You need to refresh the page. I've made a pretty major change in the main template, and you might have caught it right in the middle of uploading the files.

I'm looking at LGF in Firefox 3 right now, and it's working fine...

Had the exact same problem. . .
Logged in on main page.

re: #79 Charles

You need to refresh the page. I've made a pretty major change in the main template, and you might have caught it right in the middle of uploading the files.

I'm looking at LGF in Firefox 3 right now, and it's working fine...

I've cleared cookies and cache and refreshed and I still don't see Left and Right Columns. Only the center is viewable.

re: #57 Pastorius

JSK,

That was a sarcastic joke on my part.

I guess I should have added sarc tags.

Whoops. I guess you were playing on the whole 'he's just a guy in my neighborhood' shtick.

So what?

On Tuesday night's debate, if Obama whips out a flag and tramples it on stage, do you think that would affect his ratings?

re: #87 WriterMom

Charles, I also had trouble logging in through the comments-I had to do it on the front page. It said authentication failure (IE 6).

Same thing happened to me.

re: #79 Charles

I'm running FF 3, too, but can only log in on the comments page.

re: #79 Charles
Ok. found the left column but it's aligned to the bottom of the page.

Let's just keep talking about Ayers. That information is out in the public. But let's not talk about the Democratic policy of using Fannie and Freddie as an arm of the DNC. Let's not talk about how the whole financial mess could have been fixed, but the Democrats stopped it three times in the last 6 years. Let's just keep hammering away at some a**hole who made Obama what he is today, but everyone knows that nd ignores it. Let's keep shooting our .22 and leave the 12 gauge sitting on the shelf. We can 'Hope' that the .22 will eventually hit.

re: #95 itellu3times

So what?

On Tuesday night's debate, if Obama whips out a flag and tramples it on stage, do you think that would affect his ratings?

Yes, they will go up....

re: #70 doriangrey

More importantly, what's wrong with being anti-public education? Public education sucks, it has become little more than socialist/communist indoctrination of the young. Their single solitary solution to every single educational problem is to demand more money. The (NEA) teachers union is a blatant violation of every basic democratic principal and represents nothing less than a illegal monopoly whose sole purpose is to perpetuate it's own existence.

As a minister, we could not associate with this person. I have always felt that home-schooling is not for everyone. And in our little town there are no private schools, that only leaves the public school option for parents.

re: #86 irongrampa

I call bullshit on stepping on the flag. This is NOT a means of free speech OR dissent

Actually, it is. People are allowed to step on the flag. And we're allowed to judge them... and their associates... based on their actions.

re: #98 LizardoidCaptain

Ok. found the left column but it's aligned to the bottom of the page.

Heh-heh, me too!

Ok, I'm checking that login problem -- will be fixed soon.

re: #95 itellu3times

So what?

On Tuesday night's debate, if Obama whips out a flag and tramples it on stage, do you think that would affect his ratings?

No it would not.

I repeat - BHO can hang out in a racist church for 20 years and give an "Aw shucks" answer....he can do anything.

....but there is no double standard.

re: #82 cblesz

Would be great if McCain had the Ayers picture in his pocket and whipped it out during a discussion Tuesday. I would not answer any questions directly if I was McCain...I would steer all discussion to Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, etc...

Is the topic for this one the economy? If so, it might be tough to bring Ayers into the discussion, but Rezko, Johnson, and Raines would all be fair game. I am thrilled that Sarah is talking about Ayers, though. That's the VP candidates job, to make all the attacks the top of the ticket can't. That abominable AP article linked above quotes some Democrat operative claiming that America won't take Palin seriously making such charges. I think she seriously underestimates Palin, to her peril.

re: #44 Irene NYC

Agree 100%. Soros, in one word.

And I am not being a pessimist (maybe a cynic). The Repubs have a chance to turn this around, but they are going to have to educate, target, present a clear message, SAY IT FUCKING OUT LOUD, OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST IN THE LEAST, A MARXIST AT HIS BEST.

Say it dammit, and prove it. The evidence is there, it's no secret, do something with it McCain.

re: #72 arethusa

/So do you suppose back in 2001, the first time Obama saw Ayers after the Chicago Mag story, he said, "Great pic of you stepping on the flag, Bill?"

I can very, VERY easily picture Obama laughing upon seeing the pic for the first time. Laughing and smirking.

"God damn America"
/Obama's priest

Stepping on the flag so proudly, with such a smug smile on his face is the ultimate disrespect for America. That he is able to do such a thing, and maintain a position in academia, with his terrorist past is a dark, terrible reflection upon the degree to which self-loathing, self-destruction and fifth column behaviour is tolerated and celebrated by an alarming segment of the American population.

re: #109 Killgore Trout

And your point is?

It bears repeating that not only did Obama serve on a board with Ayers for several years, but together that board handed out $100,000,000 in grant money , and it was Ayers who started Obama's career with a fundraiser at his home.

Obama's claim that "this is just a guy who lived in my neighborhood" is a big fat lie.

re: #90 ArmyWife

FACT - Barry was 8 when Bill Ayers was part of the 60's community organization group called The Weather Underground. Therefore everything Bill Ayers and his group did doesn't really matter anyway.

Have we started counting the date from the year of the Messiah's birth now? That would mean New Year's day is in August and this is the year 47.

re: #57 Pastorius

JSK,

That was a sarcastic joke on my part.

I guess I should have added sarc tags.

I got it. And I didn't think sarc tags were necessary.

OpticalObamical Illusion

re: #108 Occasional Reader

I can very, VERY easily picture Obama laughing upon seeing the pic for the first time. Laughing and smirking.

...and Michelle in the background laughing hysterically.

re: #66 Occasional Reader

Ummm, for one thing, the Willie Horton ads had nothing to do with Dukakis' "associations". They weren't saying Dukakis, say, lauched his political career at the home of Willie Horton. So, apples and oranges.

For another, the Horton ads were perfectly legitimate. A convicted murdered got a "weekend furlough", during which he brutally raped a woman. The bright idea to give murderers "weekend furloughs" was thought up by Mike Dukakis, sooper-genius. Legitimate political criticism, libs, get the f**k over it.

We're all racist, OR
/

This has always blown my mind, because to me being on cordial terms with Ayer is a disqualifying relationship.

I asked someone who does clearances for people at the national labs, and asked if being pals with a terrorist like Ayers was disqualifying for, say, a Q clearance. The answer I got was, well, not as surprising as it should be, I was told that such a relationship SHOULD be disqualifying, but the person doing the clearance would probably grant it for fear of a lawsuit. Typical.

How many frankly disqualifying relationships must you have as a dem to get the MSM to pay attention? Apparently not an issue as long as there is a "D" after your name on the roster.

Sigh.

re: #13 MandyManners Regrettably that NYT piece was dated 9/11/01

btw, McCain "had no public events" yesterday, where was he?

Practicing for the debate, perhaps, but even so, I question the timing.

re: #74 Occasional Reader

Okay.

Just curious, on what basis did you reach that conclusion?

re: #113 doppelganglander

Have we started counting the date from the year of the Messiah's birth now? That would mean New Year's day is in August and this is the year 47.

47 AO, to be precise.

(Anno Obamani)

re: #6 brent

You're sounding like the BDS cases following the last election. Personally, Im staying no matter who is elected. This is my country and it's worth fighting for. We have a responsibility to our children and grandchildren to not give up in the face of set backs and preserve this country with all it's freedoms, rights, responsibilities and ideals intact. Buck up, pal.

re: #112 looking closely

It bears repeating that not only did Obama serve on a board with Ayers for several years, but together that board handed out $100,000,000 in grant money , and it was Ayers who started Obama's career with a fundraiser at his home.

Obama's claim that "this is just a guy who lived in my neighborhood" is a big fat lie.

Surely the Chicago public schools improved their performance as a result, right?

NO!

re: #99 Haverwilde

Let's just keep talking about Ayers. That information is out in the public. But let's not talk about the Democratic policy of using Fannie and Freddie as an arm of the DNC. Let's not talk about how the whole financial mess could have been fixed, but the Democrats stopped it three times in the last 6 years. Let's just keep hammering away at some a**hole who made Obama what he is today, but everyone knows that nd ignores it. Let's keep shooting our .22 and leave the 12 gauge sitting on the shelf. We can 'Hope' that the .22 will eventually hit.

Some people will respond to bh0's anti-Americanism. Other people will respond to his role in the sub-prime mortgage mess. There's nothing wrong with addressing the entire package of problems with bh0.

re: #111 itellu3times

And your point is?

In a few short months we will have the first president who hates America. Amazing, eh?

re: #126 Killgore Trout

In a few short months we will have the first president who hates America. Amazing, eh?

He just hates the bitter people in it.

Bill Ayers, Obama's brain and moral compass. Tony Rezko, Obama's financial mentor. Jeramiah Wright, Obama's "spiritual advisor". Elect Obama and you get the entire package. Chains that you will believe in!

OT--I just saw this and it is creepier than the little girls singing about Obama.

Obama Youth - Junior Fraternity Regiment

/shudder

re: #126 Killgore Trout

WOW.

Just letting that statement linger in my brain...what a concept.

re: #120 itellu3times

btw, McCain "had no public events" yesterday, where was he?

Practicing for the debate, perhaps, but even so, I question the timing.

In Sedona, yes, practicing for the debate. CNN referred to his ranch there as a "resort hotel."

re: #120 itellu3times

btw, McCain "had no public events" yesterday, where was he? Practicing for the debate, perhaps, but even so, I question the timing.

Ya know. I can only keep on wondering WTF is his campaign up too?

Maybe he has an Oct. surprise that is bullet proof, maybe something that will actually disqualify BO.

Otherwise, nothing the McCain camp is doing is making any sense.

re: #114 Occasional Reader

I got it. And I didn't think sarc tags were necessary.

Despite the sarcasm, it is our constitutional right to step on the flag if we so choose. However, Ayers is not super-despicable because he merely stepped on the flag: he's super-despicable because he sought, in the 1960s and 70s, to undermine the very freedoms that enabled him to step on the flag in 2001.

"Show me your friends, and I'll know your character"

A bit long, but good (4:30).

Via HC Forum

Jack Bauer joins forces with CAIR.....

CAIR: Fox '24' Producer Pulls Endorsement of Anti-Muslim Film
Howard Gordon Says 'Goal of Co-Existence and Tolerance is not Being Served by Films Like Obsession'

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) released a statement by Gordon in which he said:
"After being contacted by a number of people whose opinions I respect and after reviewing Obsession with their criticisms and concerns in mind, I have asked the film makers to remove my endorsement from the Obsession website and from any future promotional materials. While I remain committed to the film's essential message -- that the hate-mongering promoted by radical Islamism presents a real threat to western values of tolerance and pluralism -- I also appreciate that the goal of co-existence and tolerance is not being served by films like Obsession."

re: #120 itellu3times

btw, McCain "had no public events" yesterday, where was he?

Practicing for the debate, perhaps, but even so, I question the timing.

He went into the last debate without preparing and that did not go as well as it should have. I want him rehersing today, tomorrow and Tuesday. Late Sarah be the face of the campaign for now.

A lot rides on this.

re: #126 Killgore Trout

In a few short months we will have the first president who hates America. Amazing, eh?

No we won't, if enough people who love America stand up for it.

BTW, weren't you in Africa or something recently? Welcome back.

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re: #128 gymnast

The McCain campaign should, IMHO, be hammering at that day and night. There was a short ad that touched it, but not nearly strong enough. They need to show his spiritual leader, financial direction, community organizing angle-all pointing toward a really repulsive picture.

re: #13 MandyManners

NYT article about it.

That article is dated September 11, 2001.

re: #124 DeafDog

Surely the Chicago public schools improved their performance as a result, right?

NO!

I think this is an important point to keep hammering, especially now when everyone's concerned about wasting tax money. Dumping millions into Chicago schools with no positive effect on the students performance shows that this part of Obama's plans has been tested and doesn't work.

re: #109 Killgore Trout

"God damn America"
/Obama's priest

for 20 years....

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Translation: After being fatwa-ed by a number of different organizations...

re: #107 Walter L. Newton

And I am not being a pessimist (maybe a cynic). The Repubs have a chance to turn this around, but they are going to have to educate, target, present a clear message, SAY IT FUCKING OUT LOUD, OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST IN THE LEAST, A MARXIST AT HIS BEST.

Say it dammit, and prove it. The evidence is there, it's no secret, do something with it McCain.

We can only hope. In the meantime, I'm trying to educate the people around me.

re: #129 twincitiesgirl

Junior Fraternity Regiment?

[insert deity here], and I thought the hazing for the local Reserve Officers Training Corps was bad...

re: #125 Irene NYC

Some people will respond to bh0's anti-Americanism.

We've been there, done that, no traction.
The biggest financial mess in almost 80 years, and we are letting the Dems spin their way out of responsibility.

re: #64 opnion
Hey good morning afternoon to you my friend. And let's not forget, PLEASE, that Ayers ever so charming wife, Bernadine Dohrn was employed by the same law firm (albeit at varying times) as was Obama as a summer associate, WAB as a full time lawyer. The ties are much deeper and much longer than the MSM either knows - or I believe, want's to admitt.

re: #140 Syrah

GOOD LORD. That needs to be emphasized. Charles-please check this out.

re: #129 twincitiesgirl

Holy Sh*t. Can anyone say Hitler Youth

re: #101 musicman

As a minister, we could not associate with this person. I have always felt that home-schooling is not for everyone. And in our little town there are no private schools, that only leaves the public school option for parents.

I see...... no option but to feed your children to Moloch. Oh I know, I know, how dare I judge, don't I understand how difficult earning a living is? People have to obey the law, not everyone can afford to home school... yada yada yada. Sorry, no sympathy here. You brought them into this world, they are your responsibility. You explain to God why you allowed a corrupt and vile organization to pervert your child's mind and destroy their immortal soul. Something something millstone around their neck, something....

re: #129 twincitiesgirl

OT--I just saw this and it is creepier than the little girls singing about Obama.

Obama Youth - Junior Fraternity Regiment

/shudder

If I were talented enough and had the footage, this would make a great Hitler Youth vid....like they did with the Children of the Corn Choir.

re: #138 Charles

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From the 9/11/01 NYT article linked by Mandy, :

''Is this, then, the truth?,'' [Ayers] writes. ''Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.''

If that's not the left in a nutshell. There's a reason "truthiness" has entered the English language.

re: #153 reine.de.tout

I need to send you a couple of recipes...I forgot...

re: #126 Killgore Trout

In a few short months we will have the first president who hates America. Amazing, eh?

But you're wrong. John McCain doesn't hate America.

WriterMom, check your e-mail.

re: #109 Killgore Trout

"God damn America"
/Obama's priest

That is a great tie-in.

The McCain camp needs to get a TV ad out today, showing the Wright clip of that, then morph into Ayers standing on the flag, then morph into Obama.

re: #156 Occasional Reader

BEAUTY!

/hoping you are right, a little concerned though that BHO's gonna win

re: #156 Occasional Reader

Not if we all get out the message.

BRB gotta take the kids to play with their cousins.

Play nice.

And if a troll wanders in, save me a slice.

re: #136 DeafDog

He went into the last debate without preparing and that did not go as well as it should have. I want him rehersing today, tomorrow and Tuesday.

Same thing GWB did at the 1st debate in '04. Though I think McCain's performance was far superior to the Presidents. What sticks in my mind from '04 was the repetitive: "It's a lot of hard work, it's hard work ya know.."

re: #40 jorline
Hey jorline - sorry it was a drive-by post: that Breitbart article you linked to HAD to be deliberately misleading; no amount of ignorance or stupidity could ever possibly explain all of those false facts and assertions. NEVER.

Is the Naomi Jaffe yoga story dead? I pulled this from a myspace page earlier:
[Link: profile.myspace.com...]

Jun 15 2007 8:57 PM

Please post this far and wide:

The Social Justice Center Festival
July 4th 11am-12am
33 Central Ave Albany, NY

Schedule of Events

11am-12pm Yoga Class

12-3pm Complimentary Massages
With Chris Minehan, Voted Best Massage
Therapist in Metroland

12-1pm Imprisonment and Resistance in the Age of Torture:
A global perspective on prisoners, political
prisoners, and the prison justice movement.
Facilitated by local activist Naomi Jaffe

re: #151 doriangrey

I see...... no option but to feed your children to Moloch. Oh I know, I know, how dare I judge, don't I understand how difficult earning a living is? People have to obey the law, not everyone can afford to home school... yada yada yada. Sorry, no sympathy here. You brought them into this world, they are your responsibility. You explain to God why you allowed a corrupt and vile organization to pervert your child's mind and destroy their immortal soul. Something something millstone around their neck, something....

Maybe you should read musicman's earlier posts. He homeschools his children.

re: #150 smokefire

Holy Sh*t. Can anyone say Hitler Youth

No, they would instantly be labeled with the dreaded title of RACIST............

re: #158 3 wood

That is a great tie-in.

The McCain camp needs to get a TV ad out today, showing the Wright clip of that, then morph into Ayers standing on the flag, then morph into Obama.

"Birds of a feather flock together and would shit all over America if we let them..."

re: #157 Occasional Reader

Oooh-secret ZOG communications from one of my fave lizards...I'll check...

re: #1 Irene NYC

Ayers makes my blood boil.

I'm sure if you were a cop he would like literally oblige you.

Question. If the liberals say we are not allowed to consider Obama's relationship with a terrorist who bombed the Pentagon back in the '60s because he was just 8 years old at the time, why are the same liberals saying we must be held accountable for slavery which ended before my great grandparents came to this country and before I was ever born?

re: #151 doriangrey

I see...... no option but to feed your children to Moloch. Oh I know, I know, how dare I judge, don't I understand how difficult earning a living is? People have to obey the law, not everyone can afford to home school... yada yada yada. Sorry, no sympathy here. You brought them into this world, they are your responsibility. You explain to God why you allowed a corrupt and vile organization to pervert your child's mind and destroy their immortal soul. Something something millstone around their neck, something....

Oh, fer pete's sake. Not every public school is "corrupt, vile" and "soul-destroying". Climb down off your high horse.

re: #66 Occasional Reader
Good afternoon to you O.R. - wonderful post and analysis. Thanks.

re: #155 WriterMom

I need to send you a couple of recipes...I forgot...

OK.
I have finished typing all of the ones I received thus far (somewhere between 70 & 80) and they are being put into the format.

We can add additional ones no problem, so please send them on.

We are also looking for items for a "ROFLMAO" section and an "LGF Wisdom" Section.

Anything you have hearted or favorited that you've seen here that would fit into either of those sections, please go here and send me an e-mail. REMEMBER TO INCLUDE YOUR LGF NIC.

thanks to all.

re: #40 jorline

She should file suit for slander and demand that the AP explain publicly why it considers the remarks "racially tinged"...
Just a thought, probably won't happen...

re: #156 Occasional Reader

Anything can happen but right now it doesn't look good for McCain.

Gonna finish my architectural drafting homework. Catch y'all in the next open thread.

re: #144 Irene NYC

We can only hope. In the meantime, I'm trying to educate the people around me.

In the mean time, I'm trying to figure out how I can hunker down and protect the little I have left.

I don't like McCain, but I will vote for him. I will vote for him in hopes that he will get elected, and I want to use him as a political "speed bump" to slow the Dems down, WHILE I DO MY PERSONAL BEST TO HELP CLEAN OUT ALL THE CRIMINALS IN DC. LEFT, RIGHT OR OTHERWISE.

Becuase if Obama gets elected, it will be like a snowball running downhill. You won't be able to stop the Dems. They have a shit load of money going to the elite financial sector, anothe 200 billions support all sorts of freaking christmas presents, and he has a notepad full of more give-a-way programs that will turn this country into a Democaratic Socialist nation.

re: #170 WinterCat

Question. If the liberals say we are not allowed to consider Obama's relationship with a terrorist who bombed the Pentagon back in the '60s because he was just 8 years old at the time, why are the same liberals saying we must be held accountable for slavery which ended before my great grandparents came to this country and before I was ever born?

Um... you're not expecting a logical answer are you?

Can you imagine how the tables would be turned if McCain had this type of radical association?

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Gotta disagree here, OR. If you think so little of your country as to show contempt/hatred for it's symbols, then you be in the wrong country.

Much better to work within its system to effect change, physically traducing the symbol will inevitably engender disgust.

BTW, the first sentence, just so there is no possibility of misunderstanding, was in no way intended for you personally. Just wanted to make that clear.

JPost white-washing the Ayers-Obama connection?

That's pretty damning. Too bad it raises a philosophical question.

"If Obama friend, supporter and mentor, domestic terrorist William Ayers desecrates the flag while Obama cherishes his friendship, and the biased Obama sycophantic media does not widely report it, or worse make excuses for Obama, does it even matter?"

Good Lord, I hope and pray the McCain camp has something great on Obama that will be revealed soon. The thought of the inauguration, "I, Barack Hussein Obama"...makes me sick to my stomach.

re: #148 WriterMom

GOOD LORD. That needs to be emphasized. Charles-please check this out.

Old news, WM.

re: #151 doriangrey

I see...... no option but to feed your children to Moloch. Oh I know, I know, how dare I judge, don't I understand how difficult earning a living is? People have to obey the law, not everyone can afford to home school... yada yada yada. Sorry, no sympathy here. You brought them into this world, they are your responsibility. You explain to God why you allowed a corrupt and vile organization to pervert your child's mind and destroy their immortal soul. Something something millstone around their neck, something....

Interesting enough I would have no problem letting my kids go to the school here in our town. We still have a nativity at our school's Christmas Music program and tell why we celebrate Christmas. Our youth pastor holds Bible Studies during lunch hour every Monday and Tuesday. But please keep this under your hat.

Religion of science.....
UAE footballer faces "black magic" rap

Two international footballers, including the UAE’s star striker Faisal Khalil, have been arrested on suspicion of practising “black magic” and casting spells against other players.

Khalil and Subait Khater were arrested in Dubai with two Omani “sorcerers” at the end of last month.
....
According to reports in a Saudi-based newspaper, The Sun, Khalil and Khater were practising an Omani form of magic, similar to African “JuJu”, that could include animal sacrifices, self-mutilation, the casting of spells, the use of lucky charms and odious concoctions.
....
Early this year 13 people were reportedly killed when a riot ensued after a player attempted to use witchcraft on the opposition in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Nyuki were losing to local rivals Socozaki last month when Nyuki’s goalkeeper advanced up the pitch and tried to caste a spell that would turn the game in his side’s favour.

A UN-backed station Radio Okapi, which reported the incident, said the action sparked a brawl between the teams.

All 11 members of a football team were killed by a bolt of lightning which left the other team unhurt in the same country in 1998. The Kinshasa newspaper L’Avenir, which reported the incident, said that locals suspected a curse had been placed on the team by a witch-doctor.

Progressive!

re: #162 unrealizedviewpoint

Same thing GWB did at the 1st debate in '04. Though I think McCain's performance was far superior to the Presidents. What sticks in my mind from '04 was the repetitive: "It's a lot of hard work, it's hard work ya know.."

McCain was OK in the first debate, but he did not bring his "A" game. Barak outperformed him on the visuals. McCain needs an "A+" game on Tuesday.

re: #138 Charles

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re: #138 Charles

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re: #183 cblesz

Good Lord, I hope and pray the McCain camp has something great on Obama that will be revealed soon. The thought of the inauguration, "I, Barack Hussein Obama"...makes me sick to my stomach.

Actually, I've been wondering that: will he use his middle name in the oath of office if he gets there? Did he use it in the Senate?

re: #180 irongrampa

Gotta disagree here, OR. If you think so little of your country as to show contempt/hatred for it's symbols, then you be in the wrong country.

Much better to work within its system to effect change, physically traducing the symbol will inevitably engender disgust.

BTW, the first sentence, just so there is no possibility of misunderstanding, was in no way intended for you personally. Just wanted to make that clear.

I agree with Occasional. Stepping on, burning, or otherwise dissing the flag is indeed constitutionally protected free speech.

re: #174 anotherindyfilmguy

She should file suit for slander and demand that the AP explain publicly why it considers the remarks "racially tinged"...
Just a thought, probably won't happen...

"Racism" -- like "McCarthyism" -- have become such devalued words that they are essentially playground insults flung by "progressives" to answer any and all statements.

re: #191 Charles

I agree with Occasional. Stepping on, burning, or otherwise dissing the flag is indeed constitutionally protected free speech.

But it does not protect you from getting your ass beat.

re: #179 FrogMarch

Can you imagine how the tables would be turned if McCain had this type of radical association?

One need not imagine it. One easily can see it daily. Count the hit pieces on any one day in MSM directed at McCain/Palin, then look to Obambi/Lyin'Biden and compare.

re: #13 MandyManners

NYT article about it.

The aspect that the liberal press cannot ignore is - why did Ayres pick Obama to serve with him?

re: #190 arethusa

Actually, I've been wondering that: will he use his middle name in the oath of office if he gets there? Did he use it in the Senate?

You are right...he probably won't. But, since he fooled the American public...they cannot claim buyers remorse that day...I am sure he is proud...

re: #63 MandyManners

ayers is a TRUST FUND HONKIE what a joke to crit him and be called a racist.

re: #168 WriterMom

Oooh-secret ZOG communications from one of my fave lizards...I'll check...

Les sanglots longs des violons de l’automne

I repeat:

Les sanglots longs des violons de l’automne

re: #191 Charles

I agree with Occasional. Stepping on, burning, or otherwise dissing the flag is indeed constitutionally protected free speech.

It's protected, indeed. But it is repugnant to most people.

Funny, isn't the Obama campaign the one stifling free speech?

re: #171 Occasional Reader

Oh, fer pete's sake. Not every public school is "corrupt, vile" and "soul-destroying". Climb down off your high horse.

Thank you!

It's going great for McCain... he's in a "statistical dead heat" with polls so skewed they are meant to give a lead to the media's candidate of choice and their candidate is so despised by the general public the polls can't be slanted enough for him as in Kerry/Gore etc... Not that I's say relax and don't worry, but I would say don't worry and still go vote and still talk to people about it etc.
In this typically Democrack are McCain signs outnumber Obama signs a lot... I've also noticed that the few places I've Obamassieh signs there's bunchs of them on the same spot of turf versus one McCain sign per yard on many, many and I mean very many yards... guess the O campaign has a bit of an overstocking/underdemand for sign requests around Central PA...

re: #178 anotherindyfilmguy

I am expecting to be judged on the basis of my own actions and not the actions of others. I am not holding Obama accountable for Ayer's bombings but I am holding him accountable for his associations with him after the fact because it suited him politically. I have never associated with a slave owner or anyone whom I knew to have discriminated against a black person for that matter. I would never go along with that. That is all I am asking for here. Judge people on the basis of their own actions and when you hold to that standard, Mr. Obama begins to look very bad indeed.

Just some humor, re: story about Obama TV Channel.

7:00-8:00am- Obarney-the Purple Community Organizer

8:00-9:00am- Obama Shopping Channel

9:00-10:00am-The ObamaView, today's guest, Oprah, Ahers, Rev. Wright

10:00-Noon- Obama-Community Organizer Seminar

Noon- Obama News

Afternoon-

The Obama price is right

Evening-Obama & Michele at home
Religious programing
Rev Wright, Rev Plegler, and guest William Ahyers, on flag stomping.

Apparently, he's alive and well and still a traitor:

A new video from American Al Qaeda Adam Gadahn was released this morning by As Sahab.

The video, 32 minutes, 7 seconds long, is primarily focused on Pakistan. It makes specific references to Musharaff's resignation and to Pakistan's new President Asif Zardari.

[Link: www.lauramansfield.com...]

By the way, the CNN story about this made sure to include the fact that, in CNN's eyes, Gadahn is no terrorist:

"..., according to CNN Senior Arab Affairs Editor Octavia Nasr, no known terrorism activity has been linked to his messages."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #180 irongrampa

Much better to work within its system to effect change, physically traducing the symbol will inevitably engender disgust.

Um, you seem to be under the impression that I said "trampling on the flag is a really good idea", or something along those lines. Which, of course, I didn't. However, it IS a constitutionally-protected right (as long as it's your own flag). And personally, I'd rather that the Ayers and Rachel Corries be open and notorious in their hatred of this country, so we can readily see who they are.

re: #184 Occasional Reader

Really? Still can't be said enough.

Just sent you a note!

In case anyone missed it last night - this video is a must watch.

The Vote Reaper

Check out this guy's other videos as well.

re: #191 Charles

I agree with Occasional. Stepping on, burning, or otherwise dissing the flag is indeed constitutionally protected free speech.

THAT MIGHT BE TRUE BUT AYERS IS STILL A A NUMBER ONE A$$ HOLE

Serious question: just how many boards were these guys on together?

re: #184 Occasional Reader

Old news, WM.

Not old news. Put the Sept. NYT article and the August Chicago article next to a timeline on Ayers and Obama sitting on the same board and ask the NYT editor the obvious question about yesterday's article: Do NYT reporters or editors even read your own paper?

re: #102 Occasional Reader
Hey O.R. - do you have access, via internet, to find out about a now retired partner in Sidley Austin in Chicago, Charles White, who hired and "mentored" Michelle Obama?
I know it's a stretch, but that same firm hired Obama as a summer intern and WAB and B. Dohrn full time and I'm looking for a connection.

Look, I work in the middle of the Wall street mess...but, I has the country lost it's mind? Um, wake up! There are still Islamofascists that want to KILL US. Remember them? Hello? Anyone listening? Does anyone really believe Barry is gonna protect us?

He was 8 (+ 31) then, so I think you're making a big deal of of nothing.

re: #198 Occasional Reader

Canary Island with mixed chips. Sunshine, and two ice cubes.

/over and out

re: #165 doppelganglander

Maybe you should read musicman's earlier posts. He homeschools his children.

I read his earlier post. It was his attitude towards someone that was anti-public education that offended me. Teaching is a respectable and admirable profession.

Public education on the other hand is a corrupt system that has perverted all that is noble about teaching. There are several Lizards (songbird, goddesssoftheclassroom) who are profoundly shining examples of everything wonderful about teaching. they need to be held up us examples of what education should be, the (NEA) public educational system on the other hand needs to be dismantled and cast onto the trash heap of history before it can do any more damage to this great republic.

re: #6 brent

and anyway, it's already in the bag for 'bama... Wife and I are pricing land overseas.

I wish I were kidding, but I want a backup plan in case he and a dem controlled congress are able to do to this country what Ayers is doing in that lovely photo op.

Well, that's nice. Run away and abandon the millions of fellow Americans who want to stand and fight.

And brent, without the U.S. around to check the power of the socialists, communists, Islamists, and other totalitarians, there will soon be no place on this Earth to escape to.

re: #208 yochanan

Right. Chanting "Death to America!" may be constitutionally protected, but it gives away the game of the chanters...

re: #193 LizardoidCaptain

Yes it does. Free speech should not be stifled out of fear.

re: #191 Charles

no matter if it is allowed because of Free Speech Charles, it is disgusting.

re: #209 alexwest

They share a brain, it seems-no matter how many or few boards...

If you reload, are the sidebars correct now?

I'm puzzled about what's causing that for some people - I have Firefox open right now in Windows and in Mac OS, and the page looks perfect in both. Have you folks changed the default font size in Firefox?

I just received this link...pretty good lol
Black Republican

re: #201 anotherindyfilmguy

It's going great for McCain... he's in a "statistical dead heat" with polls so skewed they are meant to give a lead to the media's candidate of choice.

Um, what polls are you looking at? Of the daily 4 (Rasmussen, Hotline, Gallup, and GW), McCain is only within the statistical margin of error in one (GW). They may indeed be skewed, but I do think it's time to ramp up the campaigning. Or hope for a foreign policy crisis on Nov. 1.

re: #191 Charles

Charles, here we definitely disagree--wilful and malicious desecration-burning, trampling on, etc- has NOTHING to do with dissent. To use a phrase I don't care for, it is what it is--nothing more,

Dissent doesn't require desecration, in any society, it requires free espousal of opinion, to advance an argument.

No way is anyone ever going to get me to allow this in my presence. You wish to debate me on most anything, fine--desecrating the symbol I served proudly under is gonna get you nowhere.

re: #208 yochanan

THAT MIGHT BE TRUE BUT AYERS IS STILL A A NUMBER ONE A$$ HOLE

"Asshole" does not even begin to cover it.

re: #221 Charles

If you reload, are the sidebars correct now?

I'm puzzled about what's causing that for some people - I have Firefox open right now in Windows and in Mac OS, and the page looks perfect in both. Have you folks changed the default font size in Firefox?

I went to the front page and signed in through My Account. It wouldn't work in the comment section.

re: #207 Racer X

In case anyone missed it last night - this video is a must watch.

The Vote Reaper

Check out this guy's other videos as well.

Why in the world does every production need be a zillion minutes long. Who besides a few have this long of an attention span.

re: #209 alexwest

Serious question: just how many boards were these guys on together?

He worked for a Law Firm the sued banks for not giving out low income home loans on hehalf of ACORN.

re: #124 DeafDog

Surely the Chicago public schools improved their performance as a result, right?

NO!

Even if Ayers had nothing to do with this, an important question still ramians.

This foundation gig was the nearest thing to executive experience that Obama has had to date.

Yet the entire episode is entirely omiyyed form Obama's memoirs? why?

What happened to that money and why doesn't Obama want to talk about it?

How did a young lawyer with no experience get to chair a $50,000,000 grant committee?

The Sunday morning MSM meme today is that the Ayres story is old news and has been around for quite some time, and that the McCain campaign is trying to dredge it up again in a desperate attempt to win over undecideds, when everyone knows the real issue is now the economy.

Of course, just because the news has been out there doesn't mean that the News Media has given it 1/1000th the attention it has paid to Sarah Palin's children.

This will probably be the Obama defense from here on out. Just tell people that it is old news that has already been vetted, and ask McCain to get back to the real issues.

The solution is for McCain to publicly call out Obama as a liar, a fraud, and a threat to national security. Do it right at the debate, Spell it out John. List the facts.

re: #202 WinterCat

I am expecting to be judged on the basis of my own actions and not the actions of others. I am not holding Obama accountable for Ayer's bombings but I am holding him accountable for his associations with him after the fact because it suited him politically. I have never associated with a slave owner or anyone whom I knew to have discriminated against a black person for that matter. I would never go along with that. That is all I am asking for here. Judge people on the basis of their own actions and when you hold to that standard, Mr. Obama begins to look very bad indeed.

I in some way I think that the reason Obama can't recall his hate-filled pastor saying those radical things is because he was only a member for political cred. He was only there to be seen. He wasn't there to listen.

re: #211 realwest

Hey O.R. - do you have access, via internet, to find out about a now retired partner in Sidley Austin in Chicago, Charles White, who hired and "mentored" Michelle Obama?
I know it's a stretch, but that same firm hired Obama as a summer intern and WAB and B. Dohrn full time and I'm looking for a connection.

Erm, well, I have the same internet you do? I'm not sure what sort of access you mean.

Do you believe in omens?

Heavily favored Cubs lose last night and are eliminated ...

White Sox could be done by 7:30 tonight ...

And if the Bears lose to the winless Lions today, that speaks for itself.

We're looking at (possibly) a disasterous weekend for Chicago ...

Now, who else do we know from Chicago that was doing really well but could be in for a fall?

re: #228 LizardoidCaptain

I want to make sure I understand this point-was that legislature federally binding? In other words, was the ACORN lending agitation done on a national scale?

re: #221 Charles

If you reload, are the sidebars correct now?

I'm puzzled about what's causing that for some people - I have Firefox open right now in Windows and in Mac OS, and the page looks perfect in both. Have you folks changed the default font size in Firefox?

Still broken here, Charles. IE6. Haven't changed nuthin.

Page loads differently, draws right on first message, used to paint the top first, then jump to first message. FWIW.

re: #227 unrealizedviewpoint

Why in the world does every production need be a zillion minutes long. Who besides a few have this long of an attention span.

Its worth the watch.

I especially enjoyed the king fu and light sabers.

Seriously - the guy makes some devastating points.

re: #221 Charles

If you reload, are the sidebars correct now?

I'm puzzled about what's causing that for some people - I have Firefox open right now in Windows and in Mac OS, and the page looks perfect in both. Have you folks changed the default font size in Firefox?

Just reloaded, in fact, closed out and opened up a new window.

Using FF3.

Part of the left-hand sidebar cannot be seen.

Ditto right-hand.

I have not changed any font sizes or anything else.

re: #221 Charles
Wierd. I cleared the cache and cookes and still loads on the bottom left.

re: #233 _RememberTonyC

Only two words to go along with that Tony C.

GO SOX

re: #205 Occasional Reader

OR--please read the last sentence of my#180 again, okay?

It is gonna be difficult to beat Obama, look the press are on his side. There is even a news story on yahoo this afternoon that says that McCain may regret Palin's attempt to draw attention to OBama's relationship with terrorists.

Get over it guys, the press is happy to provide cover for a guy whose friend bombed the pentagon, but cant find a kind word for a guy who was tortured in jail for the nation.

If anyone figures this out explain it to me, but it looks like the CNN crowd have got thier revenge for losing in 2000.

Palin channeling Pumas

re: #239 smokefire

Only two words to go along with that Tony C.

GO SOX

Yup...GO RED SOX!

re: #213 Archimedes

He was 8 (+ 31) then, so I think you're making a big deal of of nothing.

/He's still mentally 8.

re: #236 Racer X

Its worth the watch.

I especially enjoyed the king fu and light sabers.

Seriously - the guy makes some devastating points.

Okay, I'll go back. Just wish folks would learn the value of brevity. Jeez.

SNL did a very funny skit last night about the bailout vote, and Hot Air has it up. I didn't watch the Tina Fey/Palin skit because her schtick is getting old, but the second one is hilarious.

"George Soros: Owner of the Democrat Party"

re: #205 Occasional Reader
It's not only constitutionally protected free speech, it's good that it is; that sort of thing will definitely attract attention to whoever does it and that's exactly WHY people desecrate our flag - it's free speech with a kick to it.

re: #240 irongrampa

OR--please read the last sentence of my#180 again, okay?

But you keep making points about how trampling on the flag is ineffective as a means of protest ("engenders disgust"). Nobody is disagreeing with you on that; and it's besides the point of whether it's a RIGHT or not.

re: #233 _RememberTonyC

Do you believe in omens?

Heavily favored Cubs lose last night and are eliminated ...

White Sox could be done by 7:30 tonight ...

And if the Bears lose to the winless Lions today, that speaks for itself.

We're looking at (possibly) a disasterous weekend for Chicago ...

Now, who else do we know from Chicago that was doing really well but could be in for a fall?

I would propose a trade to our Chicago freinds

If we wipe out the Cubs losses and let them into the World Series Gratis
If we also allow the White Sox a free pass
If we promise the Bears win out the rest of the year

WILL YOU GUYS PLEASE KEEP OBAMA IN CHICAGO !

re: #209 alexwest

Serious question: just how many boards were these guys on together?

NRO on the Ayers-Obamba connection

re: #193 LizardoidCaptain

But it does not protect you from getting your ass beat.

Yea, it does. Beat up a flag burner and you get charged with the hate crime.

re: #195 FrogMarch

The aspect that the liberal press cannot ignore is - why did Ayres pick Obama to serve with him?

The liberal press can ignore anything, one of the reasons it's dieing. Ayres picked Obama for the same reason the DNC picked Obama, they've been grooming him for this since he showed up in Chicago. What everyone seems to overlook is the whole Chicago machine was palling around with Ayers, one of their patriots from the sixties. Obama had to go to Ayers to get his blessings to start his career, how much power is that?

re: #185 musicman

Interesting enough I would have no problem letting my kids go to the school here in our town. We still have a nativity at our school's Christmas Music program and tell why we celebrate Christmas. Our youth pastor holds Bible Studies during lunch hour every Monday and Tuesday. But please keep this under your hat.

We can agree to disagree on this. You are obviously a calm and reasonable individual. I apologize if my considerable disdain for the public education system offended you.

re: #181 Joo-LiZ

JPost white-washing the Ayers-Obama connection?

Not doing their own research - copying from the American MSM.

(Would be nice if someone in Israel just now could make a complaint to the JP!)

re: #221 Charles

If you reload, are the sidebars correct now?

I'm puzzled about what's causing that for some people - I have Firefox open right now in Windows and in Mac OS, and the page looks perfect in both. Have you folks changed the default font size in Firefox?

In FF 3, with Mac OS X, I can now log in on the front page, not just the comments page.

re: #242 USA

Palin channeling Pumas

Them damn rethuglicans keep stealing our talking points! Progressive, diversity, women in politics. We called dibs dammit!
- the left

re: #243 cblesz

We own the Angels ... Beckett blows them away toniight!

re: #242 USA

Palin channeling Pumas

I am simply beyond words how infuriated I am now at the freaking MSM, the freaking Feminish non-shaving, smelly trash women, the "progressive" liberal trash and the rest of th blind voting American public. Wake up people! Wake up! Barack Obama IS TROUBLE! Do you NOT understand? Jesus! I am so freaking pissed and have had enough. Two words...FUCK YOU...to the MSM and the rest of you.

re: #234 WriterMom
No sure.
Here is his WIKI entry.

Obama directed Illinois' Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of ten and seven hundred volunteers; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African-Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[23][24]

Beginning in 1992, Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, being first classified as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and then as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004.[25]

He also, in 1993, joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a twelve attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[13][26]

Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[13][27] He served from 1993 to 2002 on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, and also from 1994 to 2002 on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation.[13] Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.[13] He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center