the MSM is in so deep, you'd think they're not going to hell, they're already there.

Yesterday might have been the first day of the better part of the McCain campaign.

This will only kick back in their faces, too.

Yeah, but they were nonfatal bombings. It was tumultuous, ya know.

The AP obviously doesn't watch Hannity's America

This is not even an analysis piece. Such writing does not belong in a news article unless each sentence is attributed, and backed up with quotes.

Well then, let's talk about convicted felon Tony Rezko helping Obama buy his mansion ?

Bill Ayers going under the bus in 4...3...2...1...

Question to the American people:

Q. Would you hang around someone who bombed our Pentagon and other places on American soil, no matter how long ago they did it, if they were not sorry and said they wished they had done more of it?

Sarah Palin never ever said Obama and Ayers were buddies while Ayers was committing terrorist acts.

But they were definitely buddies while Ayers was still publicly defending his terrorist acts. And stomping on American flags.

AP = Against Palin, should be the title

Good gravy! No one ever said they were palling around WHILE Ayers was (WAS) committing these acts! Its that Obama pals around with him now DESPITE the fact he committed these acts no matter how many years ago and to this day is unrepentant of the same!

I'm meeting Charlie Manson later for dinner then we're going to meet Symbionese Liberation Army for drinks.

Good picture of Sarah here on MSNBC, until they change it..

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

I noticed the straw-man back when you first told us about the article. No one said Obama was affiliated with a terrorist when he committing terrorist acts. Obama has just shown poor judgment in not thinking those associations with an unrepentant terrorist reflects on him. I'm sorry, but my disdain for the MSM and the AP is turning into full-blown hate for the fact that they have no problem lying to the public and shilling for a candidate while telling us they are objective.

Hey, I'm friends with lots of serial killers, but none of them have killed anybody for several years, so that's cool, right?

re: #8 Alouette

Bill Ayers going under the bus in 4...3...2...1...

Barack already claims despite having close ties to Ayers he hardly knows him.

My issue with this whole thing is that McCain is letting Palin do the heavy lifting. Why won't he say something about this himself?

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Can I come? It will lend credibility as I was not even born yet when Manson began his activism.

I like the other Obama talking point on Ayres and Wright too. It's all GUILT BY ASSOCIATION. (Thank you, Alan Colmes.)

As if the people with whom one chooses to associate have absolutely nothing to do with revealing one's values.

I'd love to hear how the Leftards screaming "guilt by association!" about Obama and his terrorist friends would react if John McCain started hanging out with someone like David Duke. The "guilt by association" meme would disappear so fast your head would spin.

The stinking mess that surrounds Obama is starting to ooze out and there is no way the MSM can cover it all up fast enough. The next month will be interesting because the "fluffy bunny" is going to lead the charge and the Captain is going to follow through with the bomb run. McCain is not stupid. He has let Obama and his ranks of Obamatons run rampant for several months, just giving them more rope. Now there are enough horror stories around Obama to bring one out every single day until November 4. The more they deny and the MSM tries to cover up, the more potential voters will start to smell the problem. I just sent a second $250 to the McCain-Palin campaign, and I know the money will be well spent.

How much more blatantly biased can they get without it being obvious to the world?

I think that Obama's supporters are in fact the strawman of the piece. "If they only had a brain."

re: #21 Ruthless

Is there an online site/method for contributing to McCain using paypal?

I wonder what the time limit is?

Osama bin Hidin hasn't committed a terrorist attck on American soil for more than 7 years. Does he only have 25 years so to go before prospective Presidents can pal around with him?

Ayers went from being an unsuccessful terrorist to using his family's wealth to warp the minds of youth. He's FAR more dangerous now than he was then.

re: #13 Killgore Trout

I'm meeting Charlie Manson later for dinner then we're going to meet Symbionese Liberation Army for drinks.

Say "Hi" to Patty H. for me, hubba-hubba.

re: #19 ArmyWife

Only if you bring the Achille Lauro hijackers. The Lockerbie bomber are busy, I already checked.

re: #24 spirochete

I think so. Go to JohnMcCain.com. I used a Visa card, but I am sure they must take PayPal. Give till it hurts, because if we don't beat Obama, THEN we'll know what real pain is.

The RNC is filing a complaint against Barry's off shore fund raising!
Bunch of racists.

/

re: #22 twincitiesgirl

How much more blatantly biased can they get without it being obvious to the world?

The world?

as in Islam, Yurrop, and the Red Chinese?

Face it, "the world" wants Obama.

Are they stupid?

But while Ayers and Obama are acquainted, the charge that they “pal around” is a stretch of any reading of the public record. And it’s simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weather Underground claimed credit for numerous bombings and was blamed for a pipe bomb that killed a San Francisco policeman.

So they admit 0bama and Ayers have a relationship and continue by citing the terrorist record against the Weatherman.

By trying to get 0bama off the hook they're actually confirming the story. BRILLIANT!

What would Joe biden say if John McCain had had an

association

with James earl Ray ?

Barry's initial remark - when he said that "just a little boy when he tried to kill people with bombs" - about Bill Ayers included that he (Barry) knew him from the neighborhood. This implies they met at the Super Saver shopping for aragula or whatever.

I really don't think it makes much of a difference there are people that are so angry that they don't care what Obama's plans are as long as the Republicans are defeated. Then there are those that know EXACTLY what type of person Obama is and want that form of government. And then there are those that don't believe that type of person can exist.

I just watched the clip of Obama being asked about his association with Ayers, in which he first excused himself with the 'I was only 8' bit.
He's blinking up a storm.

AP owes you Charles...your third unflattering AP thread today.

AP hearts LGF.
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I think Obama will be the first president to have friends who bombed government buildings.

re: #35 jaunte

I just watched the clip of Obama being asked about his association with Ayers, in which he first excused himself with the 'I was only 8' bit.
He's blinking up a storm.

I think trent Lott was only 8 when Strom Thurmond was running for president.

Well - I just finished watching Hannity's America. Let the chips fall where they may, Sarah, they can call you what they like: YOU HAVE A COMPELLING CASE TO MAKE based on what I just saw. It is a total straw man argument and they know they are vulnerable on this issue that is why they are playing the race card.

It is kind of similar to what Islamic Jihadists do to people like Wilders, Spencer or even Rushdie - how dare you confront us with our own words you lying #@%*! The truth in this case will shine throught but it has to be repeated over and over until everyone hears the truth about Hussein - as Jeremiah Wright likes to call him.

re: #12 ArmyWife

Good gravy! No one ever said they were palling around WHILE Ayers was (WAS) committing these acts! Its that Obama pals around with him now DESPITE the fact he committed these acts no matter how many years ago and to this day is unrepentant of the same!

Yes. Exactly.

That said, standing on the American flag is a very recent event, concurrent with his pal status.

Where's the McCain ad featuring that photo?

We need a montage of Wright, Ayers, and quotations from Alinsky...followed by, "I'm Sarah Palin, and I totally approved this message."

Just the other day I was having lunch with Charlie Manson... I distinctly remember him saying "Am I crazy, or is it hot in here?".

/rimshot

Obama was a 30-something adult when he started palling around with Ayres, a man who had built and planted bombs years before, but never repudiated his actions or atoned for them.

For some reason, the AP avoids this elementary connection, in much the same way two magnets, with their south poles facing each other, behave.

With enough force, the two magnets can be made to align, side-by-side, into a larger magnet.

The AP needs to see similar force, to finally publish the Larger Truth.

re: #28 Ruthless

I think so. Go to JohnMcCain.com. I used a Visa card, but I am sure they must take PayPal. Give till it hurts, because if we don't beat Obama, THEN we'll know what real pain is.

Done. Thanks for the info.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I think Obama will be the first president to have friends who bombed US government buildings.

I think Eisenhower pal'd around with a lotta guys that bombed government buildings, just not in the US.

Reuters has statistics counter.

It would be entertaining to see one for the AP.

Ok, all you Puget Sound Lizards (and everyone else) I just got back from a weekend of camping at Oysterfest in Shelton, Wa. There is a large group of us that get together every year, drink lots of beer, eat lots of oysters,enjoy the fair, and camp out for a few days (very wet and muddy this year...yahoo!). Anyway, one of our group is an older guy who flies down from Alaska every year. We were asking him what he thought of his governor being on the ticket, and he told us the weirdest thing of all was that Sarah used to babysit his son, and he used to hunt with her dad! Now I have no reason not to believe he is filling us full of crap, has always seemed pretty straightforward to us. Also told us he was in Wasilla about a week ago, and her house is surrounded by six patrol cars, and a coast guard boat out in the water. Says the town has been pretty much turned upside down with all the reporters, etc. He said his wife was really excited about her, and he didn't have a problem what-so-ever with Sarah as VP. I was wearing a sweatshirt that I made last week that says 'My Favorite Pitbull' with a picture of Sarah shooting the rifle, the one of her holding Trig at the convention, an official campaign photo, and a photoshop of an old WWII poster with her face on it that says 'We can do it!', which kind of got the conversation started. Pretty interesting, all in all. Wet, fun-filled weekend of oysters and beer!

I just hope and pray that Sarah, having picked up the ball and started running, does not drop it, nor agrees to drop it under pressure. She has made a valid point, verifiable if any journo worth their salt is prepared to double check.

Stay focussed Sarah.

But, I would caution Sarah on continuing to suggest that a "2 state solution is the solution to middle east tension"

re: #18 Killgore Trout

My issue with this whole thing is that McCain is letting Palin do the heavy lifting. Why won't he say something about this himself?

Why shouldn't let her? The press is obsessed with her anyways, and when they go after her they can't help but toss out more sexism. This is a turn off to women voters- voters we need to win this election.

re: #11 arethusa

AP = Against Palin, should be the title

Oh, yes.

re: #40 FlakMusic

I agree - they were connected during the flag standing and I continue to hate America press piece - and Obama gave credit to Ayers for making him qualified to be a Senator - at gateway pundit. Can we send that clip to the dip shiz that wrote this article?

Yes, I was only 10 when Charlie Manson had his heyday but I still wouldn't pal around with him now.
Obamassiah has too many shady characters that he pals around with.

I have to say, that episode of "Hannity's America" should be linked to on the McCain website - that is how effective it is.

Obama could be the first president who cannot get a security clearance.

I'm getting a bad feeling -- a very bad feeling -- about our military secrets. And I don't even mean when he's sworn in. They'll probably start telling him and his 'advisors' everything a few days after the election if he wins.

During her stop in California, Palin was asked about an Associated Press analysis that said her charge about Ayers was unsubstantiated, a point made by other news organizations, and the criticism carried a "racially tinged subtext that McCain may come to regret."

Can someone 'splain that to me?

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I think Obama will be the first president to have friends who bombed government buildings.

Obama will never be POTUS...

I am 100% in favor of this kind of attack, as long as the McCain campaign does anything and everything it takes to get the truth out. To this point, he has not done this. I'm hoping his tactics are changing.

Fox is doing a great expose on Fred/Fan too

re: #53 Luigi

Politicians elected to the House, Senate or White House are automatically given security clearances.

re: #55 HoosierHoops

Obama will never be POTUS...

the votes arent in yet.

re: #51 iceman1960

Yes, I was only 10 when Charlie Manson had his heyday but I still wouldn't pal around with him now.
Obamassiah has too many shady characters that he pals around with.

He's forgiven them. He's The Messiah.

They need to keep the heat on about Barrys associates

re: #58 Ruthless

Politicians elected to the House, Senate or White House are automatically given security clearances.

Correction: The first president who should not get a security clearance.

re: #54 J.D.

Can someone 'splain that to me?

It is called the race card only BHO does not have to play it nor does his surrogates [when he has a willing propogandist media]

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Only if you bring the Achille Lauro hijackers. The Lockerbie bomber are busy, I already checked.

I'll dig up Yassir.

re: #62 Luigi

Agreed.

re: #52 wright1

I have to say, that episode of "Hannity's America" should be linked to on the McCain website - that is how effective it is.

I have it set to TIVO at 11:00 tonight CDT. Anyone who needs a dvd copy of it can have it for the shipping cost. Well, if you wanted to send a bit for my small effort and the disc you could. Still, shipping only if you want one.

re: #54 J.D.

Can someone 'splain that to me?

You don't have a hope of understanding it unless you're barking Obama moonbat.

re: #58 Ruthless

Politicians elected to the House, Senate or White House are automatically given security clearances.

This is true....but....those who give briefings to roomfuls of "those with security clearances" sometimes refuse depending on who is in the room. I can imagine that it would be tough to hide info from the prez but I guarantee you it would be tried.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I think Obama will be the first president to have friends who bombed government buildings.

I think a strong argument could be made for that distinction going to George Washington, if you allowed that the buildings were owned by the British at the time of the bombardments.

The author of that AP article, Jim Kuhnhenn, has been busy this election cycle working as a PR agent for the Obama campaign while posing as a real journalist. I bet he wears one of those stupid giant Obama head T-shirts while he "works".
Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

Obama Photo Causes Stir

AP: Attacks, Praise Stretch Truth At GOP ConventionAnother

re: #8 Alouette

He's been under the bus since Hillary first spotted the creep in Obama's background. However, the fact remains that no one in the media truly analyzed the situation other than to claim simply that they were ships passing in the night despite clear periods of time when both worked in close coordination with each other at CAC and Woods.

No one is saying that Obama knew Ayers when Ayers was busy throwing actual bombs. What people (myself included) are saying is that Obama knew Ayers when Obama was old enough to know, or have reason to know of Ayers past, and continued to have associations with him for years - and never had reason to question that association.

Oh, Obama might question it now that some folks are raising it as an issue - but he's got the media downplaying the situation.

The fact that academics (including two from my alma maters) and the Chicago machine didn't have a problem signals that both didn't have any reason to question the appearance of an unrepentant terrorist in their midst.

The only thing that Ayers regrets is that he didn't carry out enough bombings. Now, he's poisoning another generation of youth in his leftist ways. And academics and the media are right there with him every step of the way.

re: #46 mamashawna

That sounded great! Were you able to get any of those tiny, delicious Olympia Oysters?

re: #48 Sharmuta

Why shouldn't let her?

Because he's running for president, not her. It's his campaign and he should be the focus.

re: #64 MandyManners

I'll dig up Yassir.

There's a picture of both 0bamas having dinner with one of arafat's former advisors. Saw it earlier today.

WASHINGTON - The Republican National Committee plans to file a fundraising complaint against Democrat Barack Obama's presidential campaign Monday, alleging it has accepted donations that exceed federal limits as well as illegal contributions from foreigners. ...

GOP to file fundraising complaint against Obama
Probably also "racially tinged", huh?
I guess everything now will be.

MSNBC still has this magnificent photo of Palin. Please excuse me for posting it twice.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

re: #36 jorline

AP owes you Charles...your third unflattering AP thread today.

AP hearts LGF.
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Need two more anti-AP threads to match the 5 Biden threads Thursday-Friday!

re: #69 slokat

Good point.

re: #53 Luigi

Obama could be the first president who cannot get a security clearance.

I'm getting a bad feeling -- a very bad feeling -- about our military secrets. And I don't even mean when he's sworn in. They'll probably start telling him and his 'advisors' everything a few days after the election if he wins.

/Hey, its not like he is going to give the Chinese the technology needed to put satellites in orbit or something like that.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I think Obama will be the first president to have friends who bombed government buildings.

American government buildings anyways.

McCain was wise for cuttin Palin loose on this subject

"And it’s simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. "

Tellyourfriends,tellyourneighbors,tellyourfamilies the truth

(DAMN SPACEBAR!)

Tell them what the media they are watching *didn't* tell them. I just did. Spam everyone that's ever been an email recipient from some of your family/friends spam.

Palin never said they we're associated in the sixties...they *were* collaborationg for three years together on a project until sometime at the end of 2001. Ayers was in Time magazine of some newspaper after 9/11...standing on the American flag, saying he was unrepentant about his terrorism.

Obama was still on the same foundations board, this is still the same guy house where Obama had his first political fundraiser...no?

Then ask them what else they "know" . . .

Ask them how Obama could sit in Reverend Wright's church for twenty years, and *not* know what he was preaching.

It's not that Rezko's a slumlord, it's that Obama so obviously connected with Rezko for the money connection...Ask your friends and family...if someone is in it to gain power, where is the easiest source to raise money? Ask them if they know about the lot next to Obama's house...Here is a man that can be bought, and a man that can be bought has no principles...

You can't entrust a man with power that can be bought off...

Ask them if they read blogs, if they don't read at least *this* blog, they are missing the truth...(point them to Instapundit too)

It's shocking how badly the media are in the tank for Obama...they're the attention-whores engaging in drama for their own renumeration.

Ask them if they know the name of Obama's economic advisor that was the resigned Fannie Mae CEO...no?

blah blah blah

"NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA GOD DAAAAAAAAM AMERICA"

cocksuckers

(excuse my French)

I'm beginning to feel like a stranger in a strange land. I hope I never, ever have to see the day when I start considering fellow Americans the enemy, but this election is really testing my sensibilities in that regard.

re: #53 Luigi

Obama could be the first president who cannot get a security clearance.

I'm getting a bad feeling -- a very bad feeling -- about our military secrets. And I don't even mean when he's sworn in. They'll probably start telling him and his 'advisors' everything a few days after the election if he wins.

All P/V-P major-party candidates get intelligence briefings. He already knows some secrets.

re: #72 JHW

Oh yeah! And lots of em....I'm a little oystered out...along with Tiger Sauce...

re: #63 wright1

It is called the race card only BHO does not have to play it nor does his surrogates [when he has a willing propogandist media]

Of course, you're right. I keep forgetting they think we're all stupid.

re: #67 Cicero05

You don't have a hope of understanding it unless you're barking Obama moonbat.

I'm beginning to get it. Pitiful.

I missed the part of Palin's speech where she said Ayers took Obama out for ice cream and Chuck E Cheese after planting the bomb. Could you rewind the tape?

re: #58 Ruthless

Politicians elected to the House, Senate or White House are automatically given security clearances.

Example A of why this is a bad idea: Alcee Hastings, D-FL.

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Because he's running for president, not her. It's his campaign and he should be the focus.

The VP is always the attack dog.
Always.

re: #76 Luigi

MSNBC still has this magnificent photo of Palin. Please excuse me for posting it twice.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

That is still a good one.

J.D. (#54),

Can someone 'splain that to me?

See down a couple threads to an earlier AP article piece of crap:

Palin’s words avoid repulsing voters with overt racism. But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee “palling around” with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn’t see their America?

In a post-Sept. 11 America, terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims, not the homegrown anarchists of Ayers’ day 40 years ago. With Obama a relative unknown when he began his campaign, the Internet hummed with false e-mails about ties to radical Islam of a foreign-born candidate.

Got that?

re: #83 Cartman

I'm beginning to feel like a stranger in a strange land. I hope I never, ever have to see the day when I start considering fellow Americans the enemy, but this election is really testing my sensibilities in that regard.

Funny - I was just doing some mental calculations when I saw this comment. Where will I take my family if Obama gets elected? What investments will I keep in the USA? What will I do?

Drive-by post before this video-game enthusiast heads off to college...

If Sarah Palin were in her own videogame...

/bwahahahaha

Nikkei down 3.3%

re: #84 arethusa

All P/V-P major-party candidates get intelligence briefings. He already knows some secrets.

They ought to test him by giving him some false information and see if it leaks out. Easy enough to do.

Does anyone else think that a presidential nominee should at some point make a statement along the lines of "making race a part of this election is not good for the country?" It seems to me that riding a wave of racial divide to the White House will serve no one in this nation. I am fearful of the outcome, either way

re: #89 Typicalwhitey

The VP is always the attack dog fluffy bunny.
Always.

re: #59 A Kiwi Infidel

the votes arent in yet.

Hey! How are you?
Did you see the Colts game today? Hopelessly lost..Time running out..
Uhem.. We Won! This Election is in the 4th quarter...
If you have inner strength..resolve..Faith..Vision..Deeply held beliefs...
Then it's time for game on..
Nobody wins an election in May...We win now..in the last quarter..when champions claim the Title..We Win now...

re: #17 DoubleU

Barack already claims despite having close ties to Ayers he hardly knows him.

"This is not the Bill Ayers I knew"

re: #82 Orbit Rain

cocksuckers

(excuse my French)

That's not French, that's Frank, Barney.

"The Associated Press is wrong," Palin said, before arguing that the issue had not been adequately discussed.

They sure are Fluffy Bunny. The AP has been wrong all along.

Ayers WAS and still IS a terrorist. The agenda remains the same, it simply isn't pursued with explosives now.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

My issue with this whole thing is that McCain is letting Palin do the heavy lifting. Why won't he say something about this himself?

It will be talked about more if Sarah says it. McCain won't have to say a word.

"What is this.... 'lib-eral-bias' you speak of? The media is biased toward the neo-cons! Theres Fox News and....Fox News and...Bill O'Reilly and..."

/liberal

re: #57 iceman1960

Fox is doing a great expose on Fred/Fan too

That piece, with David Asman, is really thorough.

What a shock, the story doesn't allow comments. I wouldn't allow comments either if I wrote this easily dismissed crap sandwich.

How did I miss this? Possibly wasn't reported?

Largest reenlistment of U.S. troops. Ever. Over 1200

re: #91 Geepers

J.D. (#54),

Got that?

I'm catching on.

It was bound to come to this, wasn't it?

re: #59 A Kiwi Infidel

the votes arent in yet.

gidday, infidel!

re: #105 Catttt

I hope they show it more than once

One thing for all of us to keep in mind as our Democrat friends try to tell us that Obama's associates are not relevant, is that his associates are the ones that Obama will nominate to the Supreme Court, to Cabinet Posts, to Ambassadorships, and to any and all other assorted Executive Appointed offices.

Obama's associates are valid points of contention in this election.

re: #83 Cartman

I'm beginning to feel like a stranger in a strange land. I hope I never, ever have to see the day when I start considering fellow Americans the enemy, but this election is really testing my sensibilities in that regard.

These are times that parallel the rise of Nazi Germany. There are a large number of people in this country that do not love America. There are more coming across the border or being "educated" in our schools and universities every day of every year. The entire world wants to see America fall, even our supposed friends and allies, which is the only way one can explain the vast support of Obama from overseas.

My version of the fairness doctrine: Since Sarah Palin agreed to be interviewed by Charles Gibson and Katie Couric, Joe Biden has to be interviewed by Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh.

re: #110 iceman1960

I hope they show it more than once

They showed it earlier in the week at least twice - I watched it one and a half times.

“The Associated Press is wrong. The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about and I think its fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room. And he of course, having been associated with that group, a known domestic terrorist group, it’s important for Americans to know. Its really important for Americans to start knowing who the real Barack Obama is.”

In 2001, Ayers said he was "proud" of what he and the Weather Underground had done, and said he only wished they had done more.

Obama was a little older then.

Michelle Obama Had Ayers Speak In 1997 not sure if this was posted already - found it over at Sweetness & Light

As the article notes, Michelle Obama was the Director of the University Of Chicago’s Community Service program at the time. So this was surely her doing.

Still, we all must be mistaken, since we have been repeatedly reassured that Mr. Ayers “was just a guy who lived in the Obamas’ neighborhood.”

The AP sounds like they're getting desperate.

Hannity's America tonight was absolutely damning for the 0bama campaign.

Mr. Hannity did a great job of connecting the dots.

re: #83 Cartman

I'm beginning to feel like a stranger in a strange land. I hope I never, ever have to see the day when I start considering fellow Americans the enemy, but this election is really testing my sensibilities in that regard.

I saw some Americans as my enemies 40 yrs ago.

re: #83 Cartman

Try not to take it too seriously. We may have 8 years of Obama and we're going to have to get used to it.

re: #115 West Coast Freedom

“The Associated Press is wrong. The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about and I think its fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room. And he of course, having been associated with that group, a known domestic terrorist group, it’s important for Americans to know. Its really important for Americans to start knowing who the real Barack Obama is.”

God, but I love Sarah Palin.

re: #92 cliffster

Funny - I was just doing some mental calculations when I saw this comment. Where will I take my family if Obama gets elected? What investments will I keep in the USA? What will I do?

I've thought about that and decided I didn't want to be like all those Hollywood types that threaten to leave the country if a Republican is elected. That has me seriously considering a move to Alaska.

re: #48 Sharmuta

Why shouldn't let her? The press is obsessed with her anyways, and when they go after her they can't help but toss out more sexism. This is a turn off to women voters- voters we need to win this election.

Veep pics are always the "attack dogs" in campaigns. And she is fulfilling this mission in a most spectacular way.

She's got a two day window coming now in which she'll be the lone attacker, as sadly, Joe Biden will be dealing with the funeral of Jill's mother.

(Prayers for the Biden family...)

Regardless, Sarah needs to keep it up and step it up, as well! All the while doing it with a smile and her immense charm.

Best.VP.Pick.Ever.

re: #115 West Coast Freedom

“The Associated Press is wrong. The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about and I think its fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room. And he of course, having been associated with that group, a known domestic terrorist group, it’s important for Americans to know. Its really important for Americans to start knowing who the real Barack Obama is.”

I love that woman

re: #66 guzziguy

I have it set to TIVO at 11:00 tonight CDT. Anyone who needs a dvd copy of it can have it for the shipping cost. Well, if you wanted to send a bit for my small effort and the disc you could. Still, shipping only if you want one.

This episode needs to be played over and over again.

re: #83 Cartman

I have been doing that since at least 1973 when they started arguing about the shape of the table in Paris.

re: #9 Typicalwhitey
who cares if they apologized! How can anyone even associate with someone like that unless they have similar views? He has TOO MANY of these friends, and BTW, where are any acquaintances that WEREN'T like Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan, Alinsky and own and own and own!

Anyone have an address to contact AP? I know its useless, but I think its got to be done.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Try not to take it too seriously. We may have 8 years of Obama and we're going to have to get used to it.

I just don't know how to "get used to it". This is fucked up. We're supposed to be the country where this shit doesn't happen.

Google the first twenty supporters on the supportayers site.
These people are mostly radical activists.
Gloria Ladson-Billings
Pedro A. Noguera
W.J.T. Mitchell
Debbie Meier
Rashid Khalidi
Safisha Madhubuti
Haki Madhubuti
Mahmood Mamdani
Anthony Arnove
Ming Fang He
Michelle Fine
Jean Anyon
H. Bruce Franklin
Paul Sereno
Herb Kohl
Bruce Robbins
Rosellen Brown
Dr. Marv Hoffman
Lynette Jackson
Tracye A. Matthews

re: #98 HoosierHoops

I am well, but I am here, in NZ, so you may another Kiwi in mind.

Dont worry, I agree that Obama is a very very real threat to American democracy and freedom. BUT, not everyone thinks like us. As in false churches, today, where the people surround themselves with preachers who "tickle their ears", sadly the same truth applies in politics. Obama is campaigning on the ticket, "Hope and Change" and the people have no idea what that means.

In case you missed this on the Top Rated Spinoff Links.

The Ayers "We Were Just Trying To Do Property Damage" Lie

[I]n 1970[,] three of [Ayers'] confederates, including his then girlfriend Diana Oughton, were accidentally killed when the explosive they were building to Ayers specifications (Ayers was a bomb designer) went off during construction. As noted in Ayers' Discover the Networks profile, the explosive had been a nail bomb. Back when Ayers was being more honest about his intentions, he admitted that the purpose of that bomb had been to murder United States soldiers:

That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, "tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too."

In fact, Ayers was a founder of the Weatherman terror group and he defined its purpose as carrying out murder. Again, from Discover the Networks:

Characterizing Weatherman as "an American Red Army," Ayers summed up the organization's ideology as follows: "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents."

re: #109 kiwidoc

gidday, infidel!

back at ya!

And it’s simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts.

But is it wrong to suggest, as was actually suggested, that they were associated while Ayers was still unapologetically trumpeting his terrorist acts? That's a big fat NO.

re: #128 Alone in NY

Anyone have an address to contact AP? I know its useless, but I think its got to be done.

Try contacting the AP here.

If McCain won't use the Good Reverend Jeremiah Wright, it will be up to 527s to do it. IT MUST BE DONE. It's fair and there is too much at risk not to do it.

re: #93 laZardo

Drive-by post before this video-game enthusiast heads off to college...

If Sarah Palin were in her own videogame...

/bwahahahaha

Try the Palin in this video game.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Try not to take it too seriously. We may have 8 years of Obama and we're going to have to get used to it.

If he gets elected, I sincerely doubt he will serve two terms. I see it going the way of Jimmy Carter, who got only 49 electoral votes the second time around.

The bad news, President Carter really screwed things royally in his four years as President. Barry will too, with bells on. IF.

re: #122 gregg

I've thought about that and decided I didn't want to be like all those Hollywood types that threaten to leave the country if a Republican is elected. That has me seriously considering a move to Alaska.

Well, the difference is, nobody is watching me; I'm in zero public eye. There's no publicity stunt in what I'm saying, I would just go because I thought that was the best thing for my family.

Whereas with the Hollywood types, it was a stunt. And how many of them actually left the country?

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Try not to take it too seriously. We may have 8 years of Obama and we're going to have to get used to it.

I really don't think it's going to happen, mainly because of the PUMAs. Hillary had 18 million votes in the primaries, and if even a fraction of those voters go for McCain, then that's the edge. Keep in mind the closeness of the last two elections and ask if 1 million votes for McCain won't make a difference. Also keep in mind that the PUMA blogs make it clear that they wont be going for 0bama.

And today's little gaffe is going to be costly- as costly if not more so than the lipstick remark. Women are waking up to the hypocrisy of the left. I pray the left keeps this up.

re: #35 jaunte

I just watched the clip of Obama being asked about his association with Ayers, in which he first excused himself with the 'I was only 8' bit.
He's blinking up a storm.

How many LGF'ers here, have ever had a background check for a US security clearance? The issue isn't if Obama was 8 years old when Ayers did his thang, but if Obama EVER ASSOCIATED WITH and WAS INFLUENCED BY this known terrorist. If Obama is able to happily skate past basic, proven security requirements by dodging this issue, then the basic premise behind all of our security clearances just went down the toilet and every US citizen who was ever convicted of spying for a foreign element, was for naught.

This is not a minor issue.
.

re: #8 Alouette

Bill Ayers going under the bus in 4...3...2...1...

That will cost Obama voters among his base. Bill Ayers is a Hero of the Revolution. Putting his Reverend there really hurt him too. If he had not of bundled Wright with his white Capitalist Grandmother he might of sunk himself...

Obama was not 8 years old in 2004. But his relationship with Bill Ayers, by that time, was 8+ years old.

Indeed their most fierce critics are 2 former SDS presidents Carl Oglesby a self described left leaning libertarian and Todd Gitlin a social democrat. I rarely have any praise for people on the left of the political spectrum but Todd Gitlin sure earned my respect as he hits the nail on the head in regards to Ayers and Dohrn. This video is a must see it reveals just how extremely dangerous these Weather freaks are. Ayers and Dohrn are so radical that they make Jane Fonda look like Betsy Ross in comparison. No Joke.

[Link: archive.redstate.com...]
Scroll down to the vid, just below No joke, and hit play. Length is about 10:28

At 8:40
Hi, this is Bernadine Dohrn. It's 34 years later. We're still in a state of war.

At 8:45
This is Bill Ayers. It's January 2004, but it's not over. ...

At 9:20
Hello. This is Bernadine Dohrn. I'm going to read a Declaration of a State of War. This the first communication from the Weatherman Underground. ...

re: #4 spirochete

Yeah, but they were nonfatal bombings. It was tumultuous, ya know.

No they weren't. Name Brian V. McDonnell mean anything to these moonbats

re: #99 Alouette

"This is not the Bill Ayers I hardly knew"

fixed

re: #135 J.D.

thanks JD

What gets me - the same "liberal" people who say Sarah Palin is racist for criticizing Saint Barry in any way posted hit pieces calling Todd Palin a roughneck (I don't know if they knew he really had been an oil worker roughneck) Eskimo. I even saw one blog that called Gov. Palin a squaw - I kid you not.

re: #141 Tamron

How many LGF'ers here, have ever had a background check for a US security clearance? The issue isn't if Obama was 8 years old when Ayers did his thang, but if Obama EVER ASSOCIATED WITH and WAS INFLUENCED BY this known terrorist. If Obama is able to happily skate past basic, proven security requirements by dodging this issue, then the basic premise behind all of our security clearances just went down the toilet and every US citizen who was ever convicted of spying for a foreign element, was for naught.

This is not a minor issue.
.

Right here. I've had one.

re: #140 Sharmuta

I really don't think it's going to happen, mainly because of the PUMAs. Hillary had 18 million votes in the primaries, and if even a fraction of those voters go for McCain, then that's the edge. Keep in mind the closeness of the last two elections and ask if 1 million votes for McCain won't make a difference. Also keep in mind that the PUMA blogs make it clear that they wont be going for 0bama.

And today's little gaffe is going to be costly- as costly if not more so than the lipstick remark. Women are waking up to the hypocrisy of the left. I pray the left keeps this up.

What? What did he do today? Darn work. Whatwhatwhatwhat?

re: #140 Sharmuta

Sorry - Sunday is football day, so I haven't watched the news. Which gaffe?

re: #76 Luigi

MSNBC still has this magnificent photo of Palin. Please excuse me for posting it twice.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

I saved it in my files. Thanks!

I mean this sincerely.....It is now time to put the AP out of business.

Write letters to you local paper & TV News requesting that they not be used as source any longer. In your writings point out the lies the AP has published in the last few years. Shame the local media with statements like "Unless you are happy broadcasting provable lies" or "Given all of the lies that the AP has been caught in, how can you honestly stand by your reporting" or best yet "I know that simply reprinting AP stories makes your job easy, but are you really happy reprinting provable lies? What kind of professional are you?"

Perhaps LGF can put out a quick list of the last 2 years worth of lies the AP has told.

We don't have to put up with the AP. Fight like liberals.

re: #145 Shug

fixed

I was quoting that AP article from this morning. You mean it was inaccurate?

re: #107 guzziguy

How did I miss this? Possibly wasn't reported?

Largest reenlistment of U.S. troops. Ever. Over 1200

It wasn't reported because it would disrupt the MSM narrative. That ceremony is proof we are winning. Our troops want to fight, they want to win, let's get McCain?Palin elected and ensure that they can win!

Yo, yo, yo y'all, that's why I'm voting for McCain.

Heh. Pretty good stuff. Tim's right, McCain should use this.

The Associated Press is associated with so many assholes, I've lost count.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Try not to take it too seriously. We may have 8 years of Obama and we're going to have to get used to it.

I take that prospect very seriously. I'll have no choice but to accept it, but I sure as shit am not looking forward to the disastrous end result of even four years of an Obama presidency.

re: #153 spirochete

I was quoting that AP article from this morning. You mean it was inaccurate?

Ooops, was supposed to quote #144.

re: #148 HDrepub

Right here. I've had one.

I haven't had one, but my father worked for the Navy and had to have his updated every year. It also involved our family tangentially - when my sister had a pen pal from behind the Iron Curtain (this was before the Cold War ended) it was a Big Deal.

I've been interviewed for one when a friend was applying for a higher clearance. It was very thorough.

re: #132 HelloDare

Characterizing Weatherman as "an American Red Army," Ayers summed up the organization's ideology as follows: "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents."

Now that Ayers is a rich person, with a big house and a luxury car, shouldn't he kill himself? Since he has lots more money than I do, is it OK for me to kill him? Hmm, no, because killing is wrong. Is it OK for me to paste a McCain/Palin sticker on his car over the spot where I keyed it? Hmmm, no, property damage is wrong even though he probably believes "property is theft."

So I will just have to settle for calling Ayers a hypocritical asshole.

AssociatedMess

Believe me- every time a shill launches a sexist attack on Sarah, there is a woman out there having her eyes opened to leftist/feminist hypocrisy.

And it might not be for just this election either- they might just stick permanently on our side. But I'll take them just for now too, if it means Nobama in the White House.

re: #150 cliffster

See the thread below.

re: #130 right_on_target

This one below has experience apologizing for terrorists:

144 John L Esposito Georgetown University

No surprise that he's a Ayers supporter.

re: #152 jopa416

If the papers didn't have the crap from the AP to fill the spaces between the paid ads, they wouldn't be able to go to press. The once proud profession of journalism is dead, dead, dead. I graduated nearly 50 years ago from what was then the top rated journalism school, and in that time journalism was proud of the progress it had made from the Yellow Journalism days. We were taught fairness, balance, check and double check. All that has died, gone straight down the toilet and it is just such a shame for America.

re: #149 Catttt

See the thread below.

re: #66 guzziguy

I have it set to TIVO at 11:00 tonight CDT. Anyone who needs a dvd copy of it can have it for the shipping cost. Well, if you wanted to send a bit for my small effort and the disc you could. Still, shipping only if you want one.

I tried sending an email but it was returned. Could you send me an email so we can make arrangements for you to send my a copy of Hannity's show? My nic should be blue now.
Thanks

re: #152 jopa416

Perhaps LGF can put out a quick list of the last 2 years worth of lies the AP has told.

There aren't enough hamsters in the world.

re: #129 cliffster

We're supposed to be the country where this shit doesn't happen.

It's happening.

re: #130 right_on_target

The name Herb Kohl caught my attention. There happens to be a US Senator from WI named Herb Kohl, which is why it stuck out. No way to know if the person who signed the petition online and the US Senator are one in the same.

In digging deeper, it is more likely this Herb Kohl, who had Ayers write the forward for Kohl's book. Several in fact.

It was in the course of running down who Herb Kohl was, that I happened upon the fact that Bill Ayers apparently has a blog. But curiously omits his Weather Underground terrorist past from his CV. HEH!

re: #151 mama winger

I saved it in my files. Thanks!

It's my desktop background now! (Oddly enough, it replaces the two fluffy bunnies I had as background. Really.)

re: #130 right_on_target

Herb Kohl is my Senator, and a Jew. shame on him

Do not shop at Kohl's Department Store.

al-Reuters...

...Obama served with Ayers on the board of a foundation in Chicago, and has said he was only eight-years-old when the Weather Underground committed its best-known bombing. He has also noted that former President Bill Clinton pardoned two members of the group during the last days of his presidency. ...

Palin says Obama friendly with terrorists
Aiming high, isn't he?

re: #171 arethusa

It's my desktop background now! (Oddly enough, it replaces the two fluffy bunnies I had as background. Really.)

hahahaha :)

re: #165 Ruthless

There are other sources for news & quite frankly with the cost of printing a paper could benefit with a thinner issue.

We need to make the AP equivalent to the National Enquirer in the way people view stories from it. It can be done.

Fight like liberals.

re: #172 mama winger

Herb Kohl is my Senator, and a Jew. shame on him

Do not shop at Kohl's Department Store.

I just dug deeper, and I believe that I found who that Herb Kohl is, and it isn't the US Senator. He's a professor and collaborator on many books with Ayers. See my 170 above.

No mention from the AP about the fact that Obama and Aryes work together on boards. Ayres hand-picked Obama to work with him an the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

ot-
Fox News doing a great job explaining the collapse of Freddie and Fannie.
Chuck Schumer and his fellow corruptocrats are to blame. big time.

re: #159 arethusa

I haven't had one, but my father worked for the Navy and had to have his updated every year. It also involved our family tangentially - when my sister had a pen pal from behind the Iron Curtain (this was before the Cold War ended) it was a Big Deal.

I've been interviewed for one when a friend was applying for a higher clearance. It was very thorough.

When my father was getting his Q and N my mother and I were interviewed. When they asked us if he would ever support communistic activities, we both looked at each other and burst out laughing. They asked us why everyone they asked that question of started laughing. We simply said, "You must not know him at all if you're asking that"

He sailed through and contributed much to our security.

re: #155 razorbacker

Yo, yo, yo y'all, that's why I'm voting for McCain.

Heh. Pretty good stuff. Tim's right, McCain should use this.

The same article notes that Tina Fey is much less hot than Palin...heh.

re: #136 HDrepub

If McCain won't use the Good Reverend Jeremiah Wright, it will be up to 527s to do it. IT MUST BE DONE. It's fair and there is too much at risk not to do it.

That's right. Obama could take Ohio with the college kids and black voters. He has an all out effort here in central Ohio for those votes. Van after van dropping off voters, hour after hour all week. Today was 100 deep in line. Acorn was vanning them in, too. Who's going to verify these voters? Same day registration/vote. These college kids were waking up sleeping homeless men and asking them if they wanted to vote and driving them to the poll. Don't even need an ID. You can use a utility bill. Last four digits of SS#. Who's going to check? No one.

re: #175 jopa416

Oh absolutely. I have not subscribed to a paper for several decades and have not watched TV news since the disgusting CNN coverage of Katrina.

I just can't wrap my head around any of it. None of this. All of this is incomprehensible to me. And it's making me sick.

re: #176 lawhawk

I just dug deeper, and I believe that I found who that Herb Kohl is, and it isn't the US Senator. He's a professor and collaborator on many books with Ayers. See my 170 above.

Oh!

In that case, I apologize. Senator Kohl can go back to being just the putz that he is.

Carry on. Shop away.

Parts coming on youtube now of Hannity show:

re: #183 TheMatrix31

I just can't wrap my head around any of it. None of this. All of this is incomprehensible to me. And it's making me sick.

I have been feeling sick today too over this. It's like a nightmare.

re: #54 J.D.

Can someone 'splain that to me?

The Propaganda Industry is issuing a threat. "Push the Ayers button, and we'll set everybody above the rank of coffee-fetching intern to work painting you as a bigot, if we have to make it up from whole cloth."

I have heard that McCain harbored some anger towards Vietnamese for a while after he got back from his term as a POW, and he was known to have thrown a few epithets and slurs around. They'll probably dig up some old quotes from 1975 and put them on the front page of the NYT.

The media are doing all they can to prop up their candidate.
Obama's campaign should be collapsing.

re: #128 Alone in NY

Anyone have an address to contact AP? I know its useless, but I think its got to be done.

Here's what a member of the Hillary Clinton Forum wrote: (with an AP contact add)

Go there and see it, and look around the site, as well!

PUMAs are with us in this, folks. They're working hard and we can draw strength from their fervency!

re: #15 Indefatigable

I'm sorry, but my disdain for the MSM and the AP is turning into full-blown hate for the fact that they have no problem lying to the public and shilling for a candidate while telling us they are objective.

Don't be sorry.

Hating evil is good.

re: #138 Catttt

Yeah, I have a hard time imagining him not running the economy into the ground in a few years but I'm not sure if the Republicans are ready to get their heads out of their asses anytime soon. He might be a two term president.

re: #148 HDrepub

Right here. I've had one.

I had to get one to do consulting work at a nuclear plant, but I think it was a pretty low level clearance.

re: #159 arethusa

I haven't had one, but my father worked for the Navy and had to have his updated every year. It also involved our family tangentially - when my sister had a pen pal from behind the Iron Curtain (this was before the Cold War ended) it was a Big Deal.

I've been interviewed for one when a friend was applying for a higher clearance. It was very thorough.

I heard from family and friends that were interviewed. They leave nothing unquestioned. Very very thorough.

There were other instance that really surprised the socks off of me. It was a little unnerving at times to be living in the glass bowl. I am kind of glad that I left that life behind. I have a great deal of respect for those that can maintain it.

West Coast Freedom (#115),

“The Associated Press is wrong. The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about and I think its fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room. And he of course, having been associated with that group, a known domestic terrorist group, it’s important for Americans to know. Its really important for Americans to start knowing who the real Barack Obama is.”

That's great.

Now the AP is going to have to respond, most likely by making excuses for a terrorist and attacking Palin.

Lose/lose for the AP.

Who knew Bernardine Dohrn was a football fan? Hook 'em horns!

(excerpt)

Born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1942, Bernardine Dohrn is currently an Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University, where she is also Director of the Legal Clinic's Children and Family Justice Center. Moreover, she sits on important committees and boards of the American Bar Association and the American Civil Liberties Union.

In the 1960s, Dohrn was a leader of the Students for a Democratic Society's "Weatherman" faction, which in 1969 went underground to become America's first terrorist cult. At a 1969 "War Council" in Flint, Michigan, Dohrn gave her most memorable and notorious speech to her followers. Holding her fingers in what became the Weatherman "fork salute," she said of the bloody murders recently committed by the Manson Family in which the pregnant actress Sharon Tate and a Folgers Coffee heiress and several other inhabitants of a Benedict Canyon mansion were brutally stabbed to death: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach! Wild!" The "War Council" ended with a formal declaration of war against "AmeriKKKa," always spelled with three K's to signify the United States' allegedly ineradicable white racism.

re: #190 Intrepid

Here's what a member of the Hillary Clinton Forum wrote: (with an AP contact add)

Go there and see it, and look around the site, as well!

PUMAs are with us in this, folks. They're working hard and we can draw strength from their fervency!

Yes. On this at least, we are on the same side.

The line of attack re. Bill Ayers obviously has the left spooked. They know its electoral dynamite. Which is why you see this fanatical push back.

Someone PLEASE tell me that I can delete all these freakin' links about BHO/WAB/their comrades/Soros/ACORN in a month.

Please?

Someone?

AP=Almost Pravda

re: #196 onslow

That quote makes me. literally, ILL.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Try not to take it too seriously. We may have 8 years of Obama and we're going to have to get used to it.

I think the next President, no matter who it is, will only serve on term.

AP= Assh*le Pundits

re: #184 taxfreekiller

Obama is a radical commie, he has been planted, he has been fertilized with commie ideas and money, he is a clear and present danger. Any one who does not vote for McCain/Palin puts our constitution, our freedoms, our very lives in danger. Third party votes are Obama votes, mad at McCain and the R's not voters are Obama votes, doing nothing is Obama enabling, FIGHT LIKE YOUR AND YOUR COUNTRIES LIVES DEPEND ON IT AND VOTE AND GET OTHERS TO VOTE.

DITTO!

re: #196 onslow

"A Chicago district attorney named Richard Elrod was seriously injured in the Weatherman riot that erupted during the Chicago "Days of Rage" in October 1969, and he was paralyzed for life as a result. Dohrn later led a celebration of Elrod's paralysis by leading her comrades in a parody of a Bob Dylan song -- "Lay, Elrod, Lay.""

re: #200 gymnast

As compared to the real Правда...not much difference in my book. Both a joke!

re: #180 ploome hineni

Kinda like a slow motion train wreck.

re: #172 mama winger

Herb Kohl is my Senator, and a Jew. shame on him

Do not shop at Kohl's Department Store.

I love shopping at Kohl's ..Bummer...
The Mrs. loves it..so it doesn't really matter...She is the Boss..

re: #141 Tamron

Several over 20 years.

I knew an attorney once who was applying for a job at a plant that made bombs, etc. military stuff. The security clearance team even interviewed me. He was eventually denied security clearance because he admitted to using cocaine and had written some bad checks. How can Obama get security clearance to be CIC? I don't get it.

re: #205 jaunte

"A Chicago district attorney named Richard Elrod was seriously injured in the Weatherman riot that erupted during the Chicago "Days of Rage" in October 1969, and he was paralyzed for life as a result. Dohrn later led a celebration of Elrod's paralysis by leading her comrades in a parody of a Bob Dylan song -- "Lay, Elrod, Lay.""

Oh my God that is just sick.

re: #188 Pawn of the Oppressor
I hope if anyone comes up with a "memo" they use the proper typewriter this time.
No...wait...

re: #181 ciaospirit

It's incredible. We're witnessing blatant election fraud in our state, and we are powerless to stop it.

Oh - the fluffy bunny thing.

When I think bunny - I think of this, and I am sure you do too - NOT Sarah Palin.

re: #211 mama winger

Evil.

re: #170 lawhawk

His blog is pretty interesting.

re: #159 arethusa

I haven't had one, but my father worked for the Navy and had to have his updated every year. It also involved our family tangentially - when my sister had a pen pal from behind the Iron Curtain (this was before the Cold War ended) it was a Big Deal.

I've been interviewed for one when a friend was applying for a higher clearance. It was very thorough.

Mine was a military security clearance, for things obviously one can't discuss here. :)

re: #208 HoosierHoops

I love shopping at Kohl's ..Bummer...
The Mrs. loves it..so it doesn't really matter...She is the Boss..

Lawhawk has found that the Senator is not the same Herb Kohl that supported Ayers, so your wife can go shopping :)

re: #210 JacksonTn

I knew an attorney once who was applying for a job at a plant that made bombs, etc. military stuff. The security clearance team even interviewed me. He was eventually denied security clearance because he admitted to using cocaine and had written some bad checks. How can Obama get security clearance to be CIC? I don't get it.

Michael Savage brought up this point, Obama couldn't get a security clearance.

And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts.

Remember, folks, this is allegedly a NEWS piece, not op/ed.

Incredible.

I was sad to hear from a good friend, very smart, master's in economics who has been a Democrat that he thinks there will be no difference who is elected President. He said he will not vote for the N***** and thus intends not to vote at all. Well, at least that is one less vote for Obama, but it would be better if he voted for McCain. I will keep working on him, but he is a tough nut. It continues to surprise me to encounter people like that that are just so blase and ignorant about what is happening. Too bad more people don't get to listen, lurk, learn and even sometimes post on LGF.

re: #214 Catttt

Oh - the fluffy bunny thing.

When I think bunny - I think of this, and I am sure you do too - NOT Sarah Palin.

LMAO!

re: #213 Cartman

It's incredible. We're witnessing blatant election fraud in our state, and we are powerless to stop it.

I am going to be a poll worker. I am going to kick some serious Wisconsin ass.

re: #213 Cartman

It's incredible. We're witnessing blatant election fraud in our state, and we are powerless to stop it.

I know. Brunner's office won't even respond about it. Pass it off to the Board of Elections. Well, who do the Boards answer to?

re: #210 JacksonTn

I knew an attorney once who was applying for a job at a plant that made bombs, etc. military stuff. The security clearance team even interviewed me. He was eventually denied security clearance because he admitted to using cocaine and had written some bad checks. How can Obama get security clearance to be CIC? I don't get it.

Often what they're looking for is not suspicious connections but things that could be used to blackmail you into giving up secrets, etc. The second worries me more than the first in Obama's case; who knows what else there is?

re: #211 mama winger

Bernadine Dohrn is pure filth in my opinion. She can masquerade like a respectable professor, but in my mind she will be filth until she draws her last breath.

There is no illusion.

It sits, in front of everyone.

Whether you decide to look, is another bridge to cross. America.

I hope the McCain/Palin campaign doesn't get all nervous and back off on this stuff. That's what they want. They've got truth on their side so they need to keep hitting it hard.

And make fun of these news stories that are so ridiculous. Make it clear. Obama is associated with rampant US haters. Name names. Let them spin. It'll be obvious. Just don't let up.

I think the guy Mansour is one bad dude. Here is an article at Jihad about him and Obama:

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

re: #112 Ruthless

our supposed friends and allies, which is the only way one can explain the vast support of Obama from overseas.

European Socialists benefit financially from Democrats being in office, who subsidize many of the EU's non-sustainable schemes on both our taxpayer's dime, and over the cash register on our markets.

I'm sure the Dems see the EU unDemocratic Fascists as people of a like mind re: Capitalism, but in reality these pols are reinstating the European slavery-substitute colonial model on not only Americans, but anyone else they can swindle as well, including their 'friends and allies' in Eastern Europe, and Turkey.

If America functioned economically and politically like most European countries, those European countries would stop functioning, because we would need to milk them instead of them milking us.

re: #163 Sharmuta

See the thread below.

So you think the fact that anybody called Sarah Palin a "fluffy bunny" is going to be on the the front page of the New York Times? The Obama campaign is immune to its own screwups, because the press simply will not give any coverage to any of the stupid shit they do, while they not only cover every slip for McCain, they actually make shit up. I'm so frustrated. I'm going to duck out tonight, because I don't want to bring everyone else down.

re: #205 jaunte

"A Chicago district attorney named Richard Elrod was seriously injured in the Weatherman riot that erupted during the Chicago "Days of Rage" in October 1969, and he was paralyzed for life as a result. Dohrn later led a celebration of Elrod's paralysis by leading her comrades in a parody of a Bob Dylan song -- "Lay, Elrod, Lay.""

There's only one thing that can be done with somebody like that. It's cheap, it's loud, and it only takes a moment, but it's frowned upon in polite society to suggest such a thing.

If she were a dog, she would have been shot.

"Any rational society would kill me, or put me to use." - Hannibal Lecter

I've been stopping at houses with McCain/Palin signs and introducing myself. Meeting some great folks! Tonight I talked for half an hour with one lady and although I don't think she spends a lot of time on the Internet she was aware of a lot of the negatives on Obama. I filled her in on others and gave her some links including LGF. She said her husband would probably be up all night checking them out. She already volunteers for the McCain campaign and I've decided to stop by their offices next week.

re: #226 MrPaulRevere

Bernadine Dohrn is pure filth in my opinion. She can masquerade like a respectable professor, but in my mind she will be filth until she draws her last breath.

She needs to be in jail for the rest of her life, both she and Ayers. If ever society needed protection from someone, it's them.

re: #196 onslow

she sits on important committees and boards of the American Bar Association and the American Civil Liberties Union.

When I was a little razorpig, Momma warned me about associating with unsavory characters.

Someone should have given a similar warning to poor Ms. Dohrn.

Keep it up, Governor Palin! It gets the topic onto the table for discussion, where it NEEDS TO BE.

re: #232 Pawn of the Oppressor

If she were a dog, she would have been shot.

Humanely euthanized.

I have never met a dog this evil.

re: #132 HelloDare

In case you missed this on the Top Rated Spinoff Links.

The Ayers "We Were Just Trying To Do Property Damage" Lie

[I]n 1970[,] three of [Ayers'] confederates, including his then girlfriend Diana Oughton, were accidentally killed when the explosive they were building to Ayers specifications (Ayers was a bomb designer) went off during construction. As noted in Ayers' Discover the Networks profile, the explosive had been a nail bomb. Back when Ayers was being more honest about his intentions, he admitted that the purpose of that bomb had been to murder United States soldiers:

The only difference between Ayers and Tim McVeigh is that McVeigh had more skill.

And sadly, Ayers is still with us.

re: #94 spirochete

Nikkei down 3.3%

All Asian markets down 3% to 4%

/Wheeeee

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I have a hard time imagining him not running the economy into the ground in a few years but I'm not sure if the Republicans are ready to get their heads out of their asses anytime soon. He might be a two term president.

I've been praying. I am really tempted to put Voudon on Barry's ass, but that would be wrong - right? Right - wrong. But boy am I tempted. I did that to my husband when we were separated. His apartment flooded, he got two flat tires, his tools were stolen, and his gf had a car accident (she was ok but shaken up), all in one week.

ciaospirit (#224),

I know. Brunner's office won't even respond about it. Pass it off to the Board of Elections. Well, who do the Boards answer to?

What Bullshit. Brunner's the one that instigated the damn thing; by decree.

re: #220 Occasional Reader

Remember, folks, this is allegedly a NEWS piece, not op/ed.

Incredible.

Unless attribution is direct and immediate, such language in a straight news piece is incomprehensible. Utterly incomprehensible.

Here's a little bit of good news out of Ohio. Secy of State Brunner tried to throw out a bunch of Republican absentee aps. She got smacked down by the
Supreme Court.

re: #221 Ruthless

I was sad to hear from a good friend, very smart, master's in economics who has been a Democrat that he thinks there will be no difference who is elected President. He said he will not vote for the N***** and thus intends not to vote at all. Well, at least that is one less vote for Obama, but it would be better if he voted for McCain. I will keep working on him, but he is a tough nut. It continues to surprise me to encounter people like that that are just so blase and ignorant about what is happening. Too bad more people don't get to listen, lurk, learn and even sometimes post on LGF.

He actually used the 'n-word' term? Screw him. I'd rather not have him vote on my team anyway, quite frankly. And any of my friends who use that term ... well I guess I don't have any since I wouldn't be friends with a racist.

IOW: Your friend doesn't sound very smart to me.

re: #238 Van Helsing

How ya doin, my friend?

re: #232 Pawn of the Oppressor

There's only one thing that can be done with somebody like that. It's cheap, it's loud, and it only takes a moment, but it's frowned upon in polite society to suggest such a thing.

If she were a dog, she would have been shot.

"Any rational society would kill me, or put me to use." - Hannibal Lecter

Concur. Someone like that must be neutralized permanently. That woman will be freedom's enemy until the day she dies.

I just sent a letter to the AP with links to video and other sources showing the connection being more than mere ships passing in the night. I expect the Obama Anti-Truth squad here in a few moments.

re: #231 cliffster

It doesn't matter if the nyt covers it- no one reads that trash rag anyways. It's on yahoo, it's on the web- it's everywhere.

Unfortunately, saw an Obama campaigner canvassing my neighborhood, although she wasn't an in your face type and walked on politely after she saw the McCain sign in my yard. Guess she hasn' t been to Camp Obama yet.

I kind of wish I'd gotten in her face and asked what she thought was so great about a terrorist loving commie, though.

re: #196 onslow

If that is all true, sounds like Sean Hannity has some new material to cover.

re: #240 Catttt

I've been praying. I am really tempted to put Voudon on Barry's ass, but that would be wrong - right? Right - wrong. But boy am I tempted. I did that to my husband when we were separated. His apartment flooded, he got two flat tires, his tools were stolen, and his gf had a car accident (she was ok but shaken up), all in one week.

ahhh ,, hooey ,,, I don't care what you say. I don't beleigve in any of that voodoo crap ,,, errrr,,,,, gggggrrrrrrrr,,,,aaaaaaaaaa,,,, why is my skull shrinking !?!?!?!?!

re: #172 mama winger

Herb Kohl is my Senator, and a Jew. shame on him

Do not shop at Kohl's Department Store.

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Apparently he's not the same one who's listed on the site. The other Herb Kohl doesn't have his reference listed so that will throw you off. Afraid?

re: #170 lawhawk

The name Herb Kohl caught my attention. There happens to be a US Senator from WI named Herb Kohl, which is why it stuck out. No way to know if the person who signed the petition online and the US Senator are one in the same.

In digging deeper, it is more likely this Herb Kohl, who had Ayers write the forward for Kohl's book. Several in fact.

It was in the course of running down who Herb Kohl was, that I happened upon the fact that Bill Ayers apparently has a blog. But curiously omits his Weather Underground terrorist past from his CV. HEH!

...Three days after a mostly gaffe-free debate performance, the Alaska governor fumbled during a speech in which she praised U.S. soldiers for “fighting terrorism and protecting us and our democratic values”.

“They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan,” she told several hundred supporters at a fundraising event in San Francisco.

The gaffe could add fuel to comedians and late-night talk show hosts who have seized on her linguistic infelicities to portray her as someone not to be taken seriously. ...

...Palin’s opponent, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, has also committed high-profile gaffes, including claiming in a recent interview that President Franklin D. Roosevelt calmed fears in a TV address at the beginning of the Great Depression. There was no TV in 1929 — Roosevelt wasn’t president at the time.

Of course they meant to say "The gaffe could add fuel to comedians and late-night talk show hosts who have seized on his linguistic infelicities to portray him as someone not to be taken seriously".

They must have run out of space.
In slip up, Palin calls Afghanistan “our neighboring country”

re: #248 Sharmuta

It doesn't matter if the nyt covers it- no one reads that trash rag anyways. It's on yahoo, it's on the web- it's everywhere.

I need to go log onto my own comp - still at my work desk - so I can give the Yahoo link one star. That's what I like about the Yahoo news - for what it is worth, I enjoy giving crap like that one star.

re: #9 Typicalwhitey

Question to the American people:

Q. Would you hang around someone who bombed our Pentagon and other places on American soil, no matter how long ago they did it, if they were not sorry and said they wished they had done more of it?

I doubt I'd even hang around them if they were sorry.

I stand by what I said yesterday, attacks on the Ayers association should be attacks on the 'Bernadine Dohrn AND Bill Ayers' connection. Bernadine Dohrn has a much higher name recognition to Americans of a certain age. I only hope McCain operatives read LGF. This is important.

re: #239 Palandine

All Asian markets down 3% to 4%

/Wheeeee

Seat-belts on. Tequila at the ready.

I hope my company survives the fourth quarter. It would really be awful to have go out looking for work now.

re: #83 Cartman

I'm beginning to feel like a stranger in a strange land. I hope I never, ever have to see the day when I start considering fellow Americans the enemy, but this election is really testing my sensibilities in that regard.

Unfortunately, you are in great company. I would imagine that same line of thought AND those words were uttered by Lincoln.

re: #241 Geepers

ciaospirit (#224),

What Bullshit. Brunner's the one that instigated the damn thing; by decree.

Yep. She also decreed that there can be no poll observers. And she extended the voting hours for same day register/vote to include Saturday/Sunday and extended tomorrow's hours to 9PM. Gotta keep those Obama vans running!

re: #244 kynna

Yeah, I have to agree, but an awful lot of otherwise "smart" people just aren't. I don't talk about substance with most of them. I have another friend who used to design nuclear weapons, and he is so naive about politics and economics that you wouldn't believe it. He once gave me a little thing that counted down the days of the Bush presidency, and I didn't know what to say. Threw it away as soon as I could. We probably all know people like that, smart-not smart about the really important stuff. And, yes, he really used the N word.

re: #237 mama winger

Humanely euthanized.

I have never met a dog this evil.

There are some people who make themselves candidates for removal. Not because of a spirit of vengeance, or what have you, but because they're broken, and they're dangerous. Serial killers, abusers of children and animals, unrepentant terrorists - people who because of bad wiring or bad upbringing or whatever, pose a clear and permanent threat to the safety and security of the innocent.

In every species there is a certain percentage of individuals who will eat their own young. We call ourselves "civilized" because we have a system to aprehend and imprison these individuals. What's happened to us when we make them fucking college professors?

re: #247 ArmyWife

I just sent a letter to the AP with links to video and other sources showing the connection being more than mere ships passing in the night. I expect the Obama Anti-Truth squad here in a few moments.

Good for you - even if it comes to naught.