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Monday Morning Firefox Bug Fix

Sci/Tech | Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:17:42 am PDT

If you were having trouble seeing all the comments in longer threads with Firefox 3, reload the page and this should now be fixed. Apparently the Windows version of Firefox has a serious bug with its implementation of the CSS “overflow” property, which we added to a certain page element to fix another problem. We’ve removed the “overflow” property now; the other problem wasn’t as serious as disappearing comments.

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1 Ford_Prefect  10/06/08 8:18:25 am reply quote

Thanks Charles!

2 vxbush  10/06/08 8:18:40 am reply quote

Said bug must have been Windows only, as I never saw anything out of the ordinary on Mac OS X.

3 musicman  10/06/08 8:21:28 am reply quote

Is it okay to come in now?

4 The Other Les  10/06/08 8:22:06 am reply quote

Okay.

And now for something completely different...

A couple of quotes from my homebrewed role playing game universe:

The Universe doesn't care how neat your theory is.

-- Professor Simon Weymouth, on book tour for The End of Utopia, 2101.


Martians (colonists) take pride in their work, of course Martians actually do work.

-- Elizabeth Anderson, Chief Administrator, Hellas City, Mars. Quoted in the Report on the Failure of the Utopia Planitia Colony, 2095.

5 Who Watches the Watchmen?  10/06/08 8:22:31 am reply quote

Thank you, Charles.

6 jamie  10/06/08 8:23:01 am reply quote

Good to hear. I was getting frustrated with some of the longer threads.

The bugs in the newest Firefox have generally been a big disappointment for me. I've had to uninstall and reinstall Flash twice now.

7 Oldasdirt  10/06/08 8:23:49 am reply quote

Thanks Charles

8 Pullus Iulius  10/06/08 8:23:52 am reply quote

Thanks Charles! My Firefox 2 gagging on overnight threads was nowhere near as bad as not being able to get in at all, and having to follow today's events on the Spy. And I have my spllechek back!

9 jorline  10/06/08 8:24:24 am reply quote

Thanks, Charles...the LGF gods are smiling.

10 Nemesis6  10/06/08 8:24:36 am reply quote

Thanks, knew something was up with the code... Or rather, with the fox.

11 Fat Jolly Penguin  10/06/08 8:25:44 am reply quote

It works now! I can honestly say that's the first bug I've experienced with FF3. Don't whack me!

12 Macker  10/06/08 8:26:43 am reply quote

re: #4 The Other Les

Okay.

And now for something completely different...

A couple of quotes from my homebrewed role playing game universe:

What RPG universe is that?

13 Just_A_Grunt  10/06/08 8:26:54 am reply quote

Alright what the heck is going on? When I am on the front page there is nothing in the left sidebar. When I clicked a post and come to comments the stuff on the left side magically appears.
Using IE6 with Windows 2000 Professional OS.

14 Wishing  10/06/08 8:27:01 am reply quote

Thanks Charles!

15 bellamags  10/06/08 8:27:19 am reply quote

Hey lizards, I haven't been on in a while. Relocated a business, moved and got a divorce. Anyway, FF3 has been a big pain in the butt for me as well as all the other forced upgrades they throw out. How many frikin times do I need to upgrade my Itunes for God's sake?

16 lifeofthemind  10/06/08 8:27:28 am reply quote

Does anybody have experience with Safari on the PC? Didn't know Apple was offering it until my iTunes updater offered it. Held off, I do have Opera although I usually run IE, laziness. Advice is welcome.

17 Honorary Yooper  10/06/08 8:27:48 am reply quote

re: #11 Fat Jolly Penguin

It works now! I can honestly say that's the first bug I've experienced with FF3. Don't whack me!

OK, we'll let Mandy whack you.

18 buzzsawmonkey  10/06/08 8:27:56 am reply quote

Firefoxgnugen?

19 Cartman  10/06/08 8:28:13 am reply quote

Interesting. I use 'overflow: hidden;' a lot in CSS with floats and they seem to be Ok in FF3, but my projects are a paltry offering compared to what Charles is doing here. Looks like most browsers are having growing pains with some of the more obscure CSS standards.

20 Ben Hur  10/06/08 8:28:32 am reply quote

Fatwa: Saudi women must cover one eye

Sheikh says women’s modesty laws not stringent enough, revelation of both eyes causes ‘corrupt behavior, conflicts with Islamic principles’

21 bellamags  10/06/08 8:28:47 am reply quote

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Hey there buzz, how are you?

22 Macker  10/06/08 8:28:52 am reply quote

re: #15 bellamags

Hey lizards, I haven't been on in a while. Relocated a business, moved and got a divorce. Anyway, FF3 has been a big pain in the butt for me as well as all the other forced upgrades they throw out. How many frikin times do I need to upgrade my Itunes for God's sake?

[Shoves brewski over to bellamags] Here's a drink to your divorce!

23 JamesTKirk  10/06/08 8:28:58 am reply quote

Thanks. Let me go back to a long thread and try it out.

/ FLÜGGÅɘNK∂€ČHI 38;ߨL∫ÊN

24 The Other Les  10/06/08 8:29:26 am reply quote

re: #12 Macker

What RPG universe is that?

I'm doing a homebrewed universe for Classic Traveller.

It's a long term project. I'm also writing some fan fiction for it.

25 bellamags  10/06/08 8:29:51 am reply quote

re: #22 Macker

Thanks man! (I'm imagining a cold Bass in a bottle, drinking it down followed by a shot of Grey Goose and a lemon slice)

26 Charles  10/06/08 8:30:07 am reply quote

re: #16 lifeofthemind

Does anybody have experience with Safari on the PC? Didn't know Apple was offering it until my iTunes updater offered it. Held off, I do have Opera although I usually run IE, laziness. Advice is welcome.

The Windows version of Safari is excellent, in my opinion. I recommend it.

27 yesandno  10/06/08 8:30:38 am reply quote

Latest from Obama....actually a Keating web site..........film at 12:00

[Link: www.keatingeconomics.com...]

28 Cartman  10/06/08 8:30:39 am reply quote

re: #15 bellamags

Your iTunes problems may not be an exclusive Firefox problem. Their updates are notoriously buggy and unstable.

29 Ford_Prefect  10/06/08 8:30:53 am reply quote

re: #25 bellamags

Thanks man! (I'm imagining a cold Bass in a bottle, drinking it down followed by a shot of Grey Goose and a lemon slice)

Tie a brick to that lemon slice and you might have something.
//

30 buzzsawmonkey  10/06/08 8:31:18 am reply quote

re: #21 bellamags

Hey there buzz, how are you?

Jes' fine, thanks. You?

31 Cap'n DOC  10/06/08 8:31:46 am reply quote

THANK YOU, CHARLES! There is a LizardMaster.

32 The Other Les  10/06/08 8:31:54 am reply quote

re: #20 Ben Hur

Could we now tell the House Saud to urinate up a rope and hand the so-called holy cities over to some trekkies? Please?

33 Karridine  10/06/08 8:32:29 am reply quote

Thanks, Charles.

I love FireFox, but their version 3 wouldn't accomodate RealPlayer FLV downloads... so I've kept FireFox 3 on one partition, and FireFox 2 on my other partition, when I want to D/L videos...

And that glitch last night was freaky...

34 bellamags  10/06/08 8:32:34 am reply quote

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

FABULOUS. and free he he

35 JamesTKirk  10/06/08 8:32:45 am reply quote

re: #32 The Other Les

Could we now tell the House Saud to urinate up a rope and hand the so-called holy cities over to some trekkies? Please?

I don't want anything that the House of Saud has been all over.

I know where they've been. *shudder*

36 doppelganglander  10/06/08 8:33:07 am reply quote

Hooray! Personally, I hate Firefox 3. Somehow my computer downloaded it and installed it without my consent. I don't like the way it looks at all. The only good feature is that when you close it, it offers you the option of reopening it later with all the same tabs intact. That's pretty cool.

37 bellamags  10/06/08 8:33:11 am reply quote

re: #28 Cartman

I know. AND frequent. its ridiculous.

38 Ben Hur  10/06/08 8:33:23 am reply quote

ANSWER TO A SWEDISH SNOB

How gauche we Americans be.

At least in the eyes of the perma nent secretary of the Swedish Academy, which awards the Nobel Prize for literature. That would be one Horace Engdahl, who last week sought to explain why no American has won that prize since 1993:

"Of course, there is powerful literature in all big cultures, but you can't get away from the fact that Europe still is the center of the literary world . . . not the United States," he proclaimed.

"The US is too isolated, too insular. They don't translate enough and don't really participate in the big dialogue of literature. That ignorance is restraining."

Do tell.

Well, it's also the case that good literature - like beauty - is often found in the eye of the beholder.

Just as it is true that the Nobel committee never recognized such great European authors as Marcel Proust, James Joyce or Vladimir Nabokov.

But when the subjectivity of literature gives way to the objectivity of the sciences - how does America fare then?

Quite well, as it happens.

Consider:

* An American has won or shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry in all but one of the last 10 years.

* An American has won or shared the Nobel Prize in physics in eight of the last 10 years.

* An American has won or shared the Nobel Prize in medicine in all but one of the last 10 years.

And even in a "softer," yet still highly analytic, discipline:

* An American has either won or shared the Nobel Prize in economics in eight of the last 10 years.

Clearly, Americans are better at discerning how the world is - as opposed to how Europeans imagine it to be.
There's a lesson there.

39 Just_A_Grunt  10/06/08 8:33:58 am reply quote

On my home computers I have Firefox 3 and their new browser for bloggers called Flock.
The only problem I have had with Flock so far is that some streaming media doesn't want to run. It always tells you that a plugin is missing, Media Player plugin for Firefox, however that is not the case. When I open the Firefox browser to use for online streaming media like radio there is no problem. There appears a conflict with associating the Windows Media Player with Flock while Firefox is installed, but I am unwilling to uninstall FF.
I love my Flock and for people who do blogging or spend a lot of time online it is the greatest. You can have RSS feeds without having to install a separate program. It is included. Also keep track of your other social networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter etc, in the sidebar.
It functions mostly like FF just with a lot bells and whistles included.

40 JimmyTheClaw  10/06/08 8:34:21 am reply quote

cool i was hit with that bug

41 The Other Les  10/06/08 8:34:53 am reply quote

re: #35 JamesTKirk

I don't want anything that the House of Saud has been all over.

I know where they've been. *shudder*

The reason I brought that up is that the present heir to the previous guardians of the cities is a well known trekkie. He even had a walk on as an extra on ST:Voyager.

42 Cartman  10/06/08 8:34:58 am reply quote

re: #28 Cartman

I may have spoken out of turn regarding iTunes. Sounds like the FF plugin might be the culprit, not the iTunes software itself.

43 Oldasdirt  10/06/08 8:35:24 am reply quote

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports today that the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections (Cleveland, Ohio) is investigating 75,000 voter registrations -- many found to have been fraudulent -- submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN):

Obama has been endorsed by ACORN and has worked for Acorn and supported their efforts Acorn indicted in several states now for voter fraud.

44 Ben Hur  10/06/08 8:35:44 am reply quote

Global Poll Finds Obama Preferred in All Countries But U.S.

This isn't rocket science.

Why would non-Americans want someone who would put Americas interests first over other countries' interests?

45 WriterMom  10/06/08 8:36:53 am reply quote

re: #44 Ben Hur

Ya chabibi!

46 WriterMom  10/06/08 8:37:22 am reply quote

re: #35 JamesTKirk

LOL

47 Cartman  10/06/08 8:38:59 am reply quote

re: #43 Oldasdirt

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports today that the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections (Cleveland, Ohio) is investigating 75,000 voter registrations -- many found to have been fraudulent -- submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN):

Obama has been endorsed by ACORN and has worked for Acorn and supported their efforts Acorn indicted in several states now for voter fraud.

Nothing will come of it. The CCBOE is a partisan mess. They'll perform their "investigation" and find absolutely no wrongdoing. I can almost guarantee that.

48 JimmyTheClaw  10/06/08 8:39:36 am reply quote

re: #41 The Other Les

The reason I brought that up is that the present heir to the previous guardians of the cities is a well known trekkie. He even had a walk on as an extra on ST:Voyager.

i have that picture on my dead blog

49 JamesTKirk  10/06/08 8:40:40 am reply quote

Given there past history, nobody should be allowing ACORN to do voter registrations at all - unless each one is independently verified by an unbiased panel before being entered into the system.

50 Charles  10/06/08 8:40:56 am reply quote

Looks like changing "overflow: auto" to "overflow: hidden" solves the problem.

51 larrysheldon  10/06/08 8:42:31 am reply quote

I'm about to do with FireFox what I did with Vista.

52 Cartman  10/06/08 8:42:35 am reply quote

I'll say it again for anybody who's listening - Ohio will most likely be the pivotal state in this election, and it appears that voter fraud is taking place here on an unprecedented scale. The left is pulling out all of the stops.

53 Honorary Yooper  10/06/08 8:42:48 am reply quote

re: #49 JamesTKirk

Given there past history, nobody should be allowing ACORN to do voter registrations at all - unless each one is independently verified by an unbiased panel before being entered into the system.

ACORN should be prosecuted using RICO for what they've done. Not a single one of them should not be behind bars.

54 lifeofthemind  10/06/08 8:42:55 am reply quote

re: #26 Charles

The Windows version of Safari is excellent, in my opinion. I recommend it.


Thank you, never used Fire Fox, gather that is the default browser around here for some reason.

55 FrogMarch  10/06/08 8:44:00 am reply quote

So I was thinking this morning how exciting it will be to have Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, and Harry Reid in charge of our health care.

I can't wait for holy Obama to take 63 cents of every dollar we earn to pay for his glorious Nanny State.

56 Oldasdirt  10/06/08 8:45:35 am reply quote

re: #47 Cartman

Nothing will come of it. The CCBOE is a partisan mess. They'll perform their "investigation" and find absolutely no wrongdoing. I can almost guarantee that.

Then why dont the Republican party put investigators on this mess.
ACORN need to watched like a hawk.

57 JohnAdams  10/06/08 8:46:09 am reply quote

re: #49 JamesTKirk

Given there past history, nobody should be allowing ACORN to do voter registrations at all - unless each one is independently verified by an unbiased panel before being entered into the system.

This is a more practical side of the problem. Local government clerk's offices are being swamped by loads of bogus registrations, which drives up the cost in payroll due to hiring temps and overtime. Nothing wrong with registering real citizens, but ACORN is not about that.

58 FrogMarch  10/06/08 8:46:25 am reply quote

So-- why is Richard Reid (the shoe bomber) in jail, while Ayres and Dohrn walk around free?

[Link: vodkapundit.com...]

59 Fat Jolly Penguin  10/06/08 8:46:31 am reply quote

Good Lord. DJIA is down 439.25 right now. Yuck.

60 vagabond trader  10/06/08 8:46:49 am reply quote

Now if we can only fix all the other ff3 bugs experienced with our new pc.

61 Ward Cleaver  10/06/08 8:46:55 am reply quote
62 Occasional Reader  10/06/08 8:47:07 am reply quote

re: #44 Ben Hur

63 lori lane  10/06/08 8:47:07 am reply quote

re: #39 Just_A_Grunt

When I open the Firefox browser to use for online streaming media like radio there is no problem.

i cannot get my streaming audio to work at all on my Mac. it used to work; then all of the sudden, nada. :-( i've tried the solutions they give but nothing works to fix it. :-( i miss my online radio listening.

64 Ward Cleaver  10/06/08 8:47:27 am reply quote

Thanks Charles. What is the "other problem"?

65 Cartman  10/06/08 8:47:30 am reply quote

re: #50 Charles

Looks like changing "overflow: auto" to "overflow: hidden" solves the problem.

It seems to act like a vertical 'clear', or something of that nature.

66 Occasional Reader  10/06/08 8:47:35 am reply quote

re: #59 Fat Jolly Penguin

Good Lord. DJIA is

67 Nemesis6  10/06/08 8:47:45 am reply quote

re: #16 lifeofthemind

They've caught a lot of flak for pushing their browser on consumers like this. And it's really a rotten thing to do.

68 Ben Hur  10/06/08 8:49:51 am reply quote

re: #62 Occasional Reader


You are aware of course that there are pictures on the internet this week of your favorite South American olympic javelin throwing chick on the catwalk topless, yes?

Unfortunately I think of you the first time I see when I see such things.

Otherwise, I agree with your post.

69 JohnAdams  10/06/08 8:50:33 am reply quote

re: #44 Ben Hur

Global Poll Finds Obama Preferred in All Countries But U.S.

This isn't rocket science.

Why would non-Americans want someone who would put Americas interests first over other countries' interests?

The libtard elite class has a desperate inferiority complex as regards the Europeans.
/Call back the overweight ugly Americans!
/Release the slim, sophisticated, chain-smoking elites!

70 Cartman  10/06/08 8:50:40 am reply quote

re: #56 Oldasdirt

Then why dont the Republican party put investigators on this mess.
ACORN need to watched like a hawk.

They are afraid to act, IMO. Every challenge they've issued in the past has been met with scorn and derision by the local media. The deck is totally stacked in the Dems favor in Cuyahoga County.

71 WriterMom  10/06/08 8:51:07 am reply quote

re: #68 Ben Hur

Unfortunately I think of you the first time I see when I see such things.

Two responses:

a) Sure, sure....
b) THE HORROR THE HORROR!

72 Dasher  10/06/08 8:51:21 am reply quote

re: #66 Occasional Reader

That's actually not quite as bad as I feared. Of course, the day's far from over.

It was down 550 a while ago, bounced off the bottom, but who knows were it will wind up.

73 JohnAdams  10/06/08 8:52:03 am reply quote

re: #68 Ben Hur

You may have to provide a link...strictly for uh....research purposes.

74 Ward Cleaver  10/06/08 8:52:25 am reply quote

re: #58 FrogMarch

So-- why is Richard Reid (the shoe bomber) in jail, while Ayres and Dohrn walk around free?

[Link: vodkapundit.com...]

Because of prosecutorial misconduct. It's doubtful that the Feds would want to try again after all these years.

75 Ben Hur  10/06/08 8:52:38 am reply quote

re: #68 Ben Hur

Unfortunately I think of you the first time I see when I see such things.

Translation: Unfortunately, your the first thing that pops into my head when I see such things.

76 jorline  10/06/08 8:53:25 am reply quote

re: #61 Ward Cleaver

Arrrrrrrr!

Saw that the other day, Ward. My solution is to issue them Oakley's...lol

77 Oldasdirt  10/06/08 8:54:23 am reply quote

re: #70 Cartman

They are afraid to act, IMO. Every challenge they've issued in the past has been met with scorn and derision by the local media. The deck is totally stacked in the Dems favor in Cuyahoga County.

Being from Texas,i kinda know where you are coming from.We have Harris county with Houston in it.How the liberals got a hold of that city and county still bug me.

78 The Other Les  10/06/08 8:54:25 am reply quote

Gakk!

Someone I e-mailed a resume' to just called. In midconversation he decides that I've had too many jobs and that he can't hire me.

What a dick!

79 Occasional Reader  10/06/08 8:54:56 am reply quote

re: #68 Ben Hur

You are aware of course that there are pictures on the internet this week of your favorite South American olympic javelin throwing chick on the catwalk topless, yes?

No, I was not aware of this. And of course, looking for such pics now, at work, would not be wise.

Unfortunately I think of you the first time I see when I see such things.

That kind of worries me.

80 lifeofthemind  10/06/08 8:55:33 am reply quote

re: #67 Nemesis6

They've caught a lot of flak for pushing their browser on consumers like this. And it's really a rotten thing to do.

Who? Which browser? I mentioned 4, IE, Opera, Safari, and Fire Fox.

81 WriterMom  10/06/08 8:55:34 am reply quote

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Be afraid.
Be very afraid.

82 FrogMarch  10/06/08 8:56:11 am reply quote

re: #74 Ward Cleaver

Because of prosecutorial misconduct. It's doubtful that the Feds would want to try again after all these years.

I agree - it's to late for the traitors to serve time now. But the central point remails. What's the difference bwteen Reid and Ayres/Dohrn? They both attempted to blow stuff up. Right now, Reid is staring at a wall in a supermax.
Ayres/Dorhn are teaching our children how to hate America.

83 pbird  10/06/08 8:58:09 am reply quote

re: #15 bellamags

Hey lizards, I haven't been on in a while. Relocated a business, moved and got a divorce. Anyway, FF3 has been a big pain in the butt for me as well as all the other forced upgrades they throw out. How many frikin times do I need to upgrade my Itunes for God's sake?

Youse guys should use Opera. It is the browser "of the gods". No problems ever. And free.

84 Celtic Templar  10/06/08 9:01:41 am reply quote

I'm starting a new project, a personal project to disseminate information to counter the neo-Communist revolution that I believe is occurring. I have a degree in Soviet studies, the foundation includes a good helping of Marxist-Leninism studies (Dictatorship of the Proletariat, Vanguard of the Proletariat, the evolution from formless marxism, to radical bolshevism, etc.). I kind of know the origins of the 1917 Communist revolution.

So, I see the same things occurring now. I think the market collapse is not coincidental. Whether or not there is a conspiracy there or not, it still is a catalyst for communists to assert centralized governmental authority over the economy. We see movements to suppress free speech, youth organizations, indoctrination, cult of personality, media propaganda - all hallmarks of authoritarianism.

My project then is to counter it, online, IRL, publishing, mentality.

1. Alinsky has rules for Radicals, what is out there to counter those rules? Rules for Counter Radicals? Is there a definitive source? What is the counter radicalism manifesto?

2. How to teach children? Counter the indoctrination? The message needs to be simple and attractive, make it "cool" but not tin foil hat.

3. Financial protection - how do we protect our money when the communist come for it. In Stalin's time, dekulakization was the forced removal of "kulaks", the farmers who owned property. Kulaks retaliated against the state by killing their own livestock, burning crops, refusing to pay into the system. How do we avoid dekulakization, but keep our property?

4. Tactics and information warfare - what are their propaganda sources? What activities that are legal can we do to shut down these sources - overload, undermine, destroy. Repackage and promote ethical hacking processes as (Plan, Discover, Act, Report)

5. Counter propaganda - message needs to be simple and attractive. Active and preemptive. What our sources of communication, how do we protect those sources? How do we use those sources?


I'll be working more on this, it may just turn out how I educate and protect my own family.

If anyone does read this, are there good sources for counter Communist/Socialist studies?

85 Occasional Reader  10/06/08 9:06:23 am reply quote

re: #84 Celtic Templar

If anyone does read this, are there good sources for counter Communist/Socialist studies?

Off the top of my head:

The Black Book of Communism by Stephane Courtois et al
The Gulag Archipelago (there's an abridged edition that was approved by Solzenitsyn himself which is of a mangeable length)
Koba the Dread (by Martin Amis)
The Road to Serfdom (Friedrich Hayek)

86 pbird  10/06/08 9:06:35 am reply quote

re: #78 The Other Les

Gakk!

Someone I e-mailed a resume' to just called. In midconversation he decides that I've had too many jobs and that he can't hire me.

What a dick!

Indeed.

87 lifeofthemind  10/06/08 9:09:35 am reply quote

re: #78 The Other Les

Gakk!

Someone I e-mailed a resume' to just called. In midconversation he decides that I've had too many jobs and that he can't hire me.

What a dick!


Sounds like code for age discrimination.

88 SurferDoc  10/06/08 9:16:46 am reply quote

re: #85 Occasional Reader

Off the top of my head:

The Black Book of Communism by Stephane Courtois et al
The Gulag Archipelago (there's an abridged edition that was approved by Solzenitsyn himself which is of a mangeable length)
Koba the Dread (by Martin Amis)
The Road to Serfdom (Friedrich Hayek)

Witness - by Whitaker Chambers

89 Wyatt Earp  10/06/08 9:18:04 am reply quote

Firefox 3 sucks worse than the officiating in NASCAR.

I still have a lot of problems with FF3 in Windows XP

90 The Other Les  10/06/08 9:18:51 am reply quote

That's not the first one either. Someone from a temp firm called me because they "saw" my resume online and asked me to come down to their office to apply. Then they tell me that can't place me.

91 Son of the Black Dog  10/06/08 9:20:45 am reply quote

re: #87 lifeofthemind

Sounds like code for age discrimination.

Bingo!

92 Nemesis6  10/06/08 7:20:21 pm reply quote

re: #80 lifeofthemind

The Safari one.


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