Waxman on FOX. Now that's a pig that could use a little lipstick.

BUSH IS RUNNING AGAIN!?

/

And then there was this:

"But listen to Ayers interviewed in The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2001, of all days: "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sssh! That's a secret until the election is over with.

Nothing to see here!

Move along!

My useful idiots in the MSM, ALL speak the truth!

McCain in a landslide win. That's my poll results.

Relax..... Close your eyes.... now breathe deeply.... in through the nose...... out through the mouth.... in through the nose.... out through the mouth..... now repeat the mantra:

Dewey Defeats Truman.....

Dewey Defeats Truman...

Dewey Defeats Truman...

DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN ! ! !

AAAARARARAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHH! My head is about to explode I am so freaking angry with the media and John McCain...when is he gonna grow a pair?

There is a second-hand feel to this election, yes.

I'm just not sure whether it's because the press is so far in the tank or because I'm watching McCain do a worse job even than Bush.

re: #9 Dianna

There is a second-hand feel to this election, yes.

I'm just not sure whether it's because the press is so far in the tank or because I'm watching McCain do a worse job even than Bush.

Both darling.

It's all the (Oprah) Secret.

Think and act as if you are already the prez, and you will be.

It's time for the McCain camp to start publicizing the number of hit pieces on McCain vs. those on Obama, and the number of pieces favorable to McCain vs. those for Obama.

Let's try to unstack the media deck.

The McCain camp needs to start including well-known, but un-publicized, facts, at every speech, press release, amd interview:

- Frank Raines, (former?) Obama advisor, received $26million (ore $()million?) in job performance bonuses at Fannie Mae, even though people are losing their homes as a result of his job performance.

- Obama palled around with Ayres when Obama was a 30-something lawyer, and Ayres was still a sanctimonious radical (see Connie Chung's interview).

re: #8 cblesz

AAAARARARAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHH! My head is about to explode I am so freaking angry with the media and John McCain...when is he gonna grow a pair?

If he could answer you directly he'd say: They're growing in now and should be full grown by 6:00 PM EST tomorrow night.

I know everybody thinks I'm a Gloomy Gus these days but I'm not counting on the polls being wrong.

The point of the First Amendment was to protect the right of the people, including what we now call the Media, to speak and publish the truth, no matter how unpleasant it may be to those in (or wishing to be in) government.

The problem is not only is this right being openly abused but any attempt to deal with this abuse would only create a power that will with absolute certainty be abused by the other party should it regain power over us.

I thought the heading was referring to our economy being toast.

Where do I get in line for my soup and crust?

re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BUSH IS RUNNING AGAIN!?

/

According to Obama and Biden he is. McBush, McSame, Bush III, etc.

I have some nicknames for the other side though; V.I. Biden, Barack Hussein O'Stalin, Barry Guevara, Ho Chi Biden, etc.

re: #14 Killgore Trout

I know everybody thinks I'm a Gloomy Gus these days but I'm not counting on the polls being wrong.

I thought you were being a realist.

There's a difference between likely voters and people who actually vote. That's where I see the discrepancy in the polls

re: #11 Ben Hur

It's all the (Oprah) Secret.

Think and act as if you are already the prez, and you will be.

What if you act older than you look, above the fray as if you don't know or don't care, and indifferent to your opponent's major liabilities?

Wow the MSM is getting desperate. Obama has less of a lead than both Kerry and Gore had at this point, and they both lost. That is what is worrying them right now. They are deathly afraid that he is not going to win at this point and are doing everything in their power to skew any poll anywhere in the country. Sort of like Dan Blather trying to "throw" a national election with documents he knew were fake.

Same thing different election year.

re: #14 Killgore Trout

I know everybody thinks I'm a Gloomy Gus these days but I'm not counting on the polls being wrong.

You're right, don't count on it. Get out and fight no matter what McCain says or does. I'm going down to the local Republican campaign office tomorrow to volunteer.

re: #20 Nevergiveup

What if you act older than you look, above the fray as if you don't know or don't care, and indifferent to your opponent's major liabilities?

Well, you can still snarl and give the pentagonal double thumbs up.

re: #14 Killgore Trout

I know everybody thinks I'm a Gloomy Gus these days but I'm not counting on the polls being wrong.

So you're not voting?

Except Bush did lead in a few polls. My memory may not be 100%, but as I recall, Bush in the last week's of the campaign made steady progress. But then on the last weekend of the campaign Gore got the momentum. The key was the release of the information that Bush had had a DUI in his past, strategically released at the last minute to do the maximum damage. Without that revelation, I don't think it would have been close.

Still the momentum over the past 9 - 10 days has been all Obama. If we're to see a replay of 2000, we need to see some movement from McCain.

With the economy and media, I'm skeptical that that will happen.

I hope I'm wrong.

Obama will loose, the Democrats will regroup, petition the Supreme court to see if they can run Hugo Chavez a unnatural citizen for Pres. in 2012.

Its what they do, search for the lowest to run for Pres. then they lie for 4 more years,and the msm quotes them in print.

Hell if the library at Alexander still existed and it was run by Republicans the f'n Democrats would burn it this day.

re: #24 Celtic Templar

Nope. I'm just not impressed by McCain and Oregon isn't a swing state.

#14

That is what not knowing about faith gets you.

I talked to a woman in my neighborhood with a McCain sign last night, we had a great conversation, something like half an hour. I'm making a point of introducing myself to McCain supporters in my neighborhood. I've seen more and more McCain signs popping up. They outnumber the Obama signs now. I have a 2 or 3 new stops to make on the way home tonight.

re: #22 Tigger2005

You're right, don't count on it. Get out and fight no matter what McCain says or does. I'm going down to the local Republican campaign office tomorrow to volunteer.

I'm taking the next 2 days off work to do the same.

Obama will lose, and the Dems will find a Dem Palin clone to run next time around.

Think about what they ran on last time.

And how none of what they said then were the most important qualifications matter now.

I'd love to hear Walter Williams on Rush. Not this Mark Davis character.

re: #11 Ben Hur

It's all the (Oprah) Secret.

Think and act as if you are already the prez, and you will be.

Yup. Ok this is double hearsay. I know a guy in the McCain Campaign , who knows a guy in the Obama Campaign. He said that Barry believes that he is alredy the President & acts accordingly.
He believes thet the election is an annoying formality. Apparently even the Obama guy is creeped out.

re: #25 dhg4

Except Bush did lead in a few polls. My memory may not be 100%, but as I recall, Bush in the last week's of the campaign made steady progress. But then on the last weekend of the campaign Gore got the momentum. The key was the release of the information that Bush had had a DUI in his past, strategically released at the last minute to do the maximum damage. Without that revelation, I don't think it would have been close.

Still the momentum over the past 9 - 10 days has been all Obama. If we're to see a replay of 2000, we need to see some movement from McCain.

With the economy and media, I'm skeptical that that will happen.

I hope I'm wrong.

Actually, IIRC, it was Carl Cameron of Fox News that first reported on that DWI.

re: #25 dhg4

"Bush had had a DUI in his past, strategically released at the last minute to do the maximum damage."

Interesting to line that up against Obama's admitted coke and marijuana use; what was seen as damaging to a Republican candidate is a big yawn producer for a Dem.

The problem is that we are simply too nice. We are too civilized.

We need to face the fact that what we are up against are the new barbarians. We are up against people who believe (even if they don't admit it) that the rest of us are no better than livestock that they can use or are diseased animals fit only for extermination. That is why such regimes when they obtain power always run up body counts in the thousands or the millions.

When are we going to take the gloves off?

re: #28 taxfreekiller

Faith is very overrated. I prefer reason and logic.

Don't give up yet. It' aint over.

BTW - My Palin Derangement Syndrome photo essay seems to be back up and running at Ringo's Pictures

What I find interesting is a lack of bumper stickers and yard signs...in 2004, there were many more signs in yards, and though I am rural, they were clearly evident. Not so this year. As for bumper stickers, my area has a big volume of traffic from both MO & IL, mostly from the St. Louis & Kansas City areas, and yet, I see almost no bumper stickers. Interesting...

Here's an ad idea for McCain:

In his 20s, John McCain was trying to get away from Communists.
[show videos and pictures of him in prison]

In his 20s, Barack Obama was trying to befriend Communists.
[show this "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors"]

Barack Obama continues to choose his friends carefully.
[show Ayers pic standing on the flag, a quote from Ayers "I didn't do enough", plus Wright saying "GD America"]

re: #31 Ben Hur

I agree that Barry will lose. I'd even put $$ on that if I could only get through all the signing up procedures on Intrade.com (hell of a lot easier to get a mortgage...).

But I disagree on 2012. It will be Hillary for the Dems.

re: #39 Researcher...MO

What I find interesting is a lack of bumper stickers and yard signs..

My daughter asked me why there are no Obama yard signs. I told her Obama people didn't have homes.

re: #14 Killgore Trout

I feel the same way. We dodged a bullet in both 2000 and 2004. I don't think that we will be able to do it for a 3rd time. I just don't feel at all good about our chances. Especially given McCain's recent announcements about abandoning MI and not wanting to bring up Wright. You don't win by retreating and by disarming yourself!

I'm sorry to be such a downer, but I just don't see gentleman Johnny getting it done.

re: #38 Ringo the Gringo

Huh. They're really obsessed with her winking.

re: #35 jaunte

The strategy for the late game here is to run lots of ads asking who you'd rather buy a second hand car from, McCain or Barry?

And McCain will do just that.

Ignore all polls except Zogby. He's the only one with a good track record.

re: #44 Killgore Trout

You betcha they are.

Unless I'm misremebering, Bush won by 1 state in 2000, and that was after 8 years of a Democratic administration. With the Democrats out of the White House for the last 8 years there is ample reason to think the tables are now turned. And Gore did not have nearly the same cult of personality as BHO.

I loves me some toast.

re: #31 Ben Hur

Obama will lose, and the Dems will find a Dem Palin clone to run next time around.

Think about what they ran on last time.

And how none of what they said then were the most important qualifications matter now.

That raises an interesting question. Ayers et al may be McCain's October Surprise for BO, but what little bit of political unpleasantness are The Clintons going to throw his way?

And when will they throw it?

I'm sure Bill and Hill are already planning for 2012 and I'm equally sure that the first point on their agenda is making sure BO is sent off to the political equivalent of Siberia.

are you saying McCain is going to use Karl Rove to brain-ray Florida into voting for him?

re: #42 faraway

My daughter asked me why there are no Obama yard signs. I told her Obama people didn't have homes.

Just tell her to look for forclosed homes. Those are the Obama homes.

re: #42 faraway

My daughter asked me why there are no Obama yard signs. I told her Obama people didn't have homes.

I haven't seen too many Obama signs around here, near Chicago, but there are the bumper sitckers. Now, on the other hand, I have seen a ton of McCain yard signs. I even have one.

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Huh. They're really obsessed with her winking.

Actually, I had not even noticed that she liked to wink, but it really seems to drive these folks nutty.

Bush/Cheney 08!

re: #42 faraway

My daughter asked me why there are no Obama yard signs. I told her Obama people didn't have homes.

ouch...that had to leave a mark.

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Nope. I'm just not impressed by McCain and Oregon isn't a swing state.

As much as I like you dude, that statement just lowered my opinion of you dramatically.

I've known people who were dissuaded to vote by the murders of their parents. You take your freedoms for granted.

Don't pay any attention to polls. It's useless.

Pay attention to what the media are doing. The election is about a month away. Some time in the next 3 to 3 1/2 weeks, a major news outlet will launch an unsubstantiated hit-piece on McCain. We all know this is going to happen. CBS/Dan Rather last time. Who's it going to be this time? I'm guessing NBC but that's an obvious choice.

The NYT just launched their pre-emptive whitewash of Ayers - they want to get that behind them to make it old news by election time.

re: #38 Ringo the Gringo

I would be flattered to have those f-ing morons hate me.

re: #8 cblesz

AAAARARARAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHH! My head is about to explode I am so freaking angry with the media and John McCain...when is he gonna grow a pair?

I don't blame McCain for selectively taking the high road but where in the hell are his surrogates?

Where are the 527's? Where are his attack dogs?

Dear John McCain-

Right now, as we are losing our homes, our jobs, our retirement savings, our kids' college education funds, as we head into the typically slow financial season..............you and Caribou Barbie are throwing mud at the wrong target: Ayers, Wright and terrorism. While that stuff is fundamentally important, we expect the President to address those issues as relevant to national security. They are not campaign issues.

Pull your head out and start coming out strong about what government can do to support this collapsing economy without strangling business.

I DO NOT CARE what is happening in Iraq. It is already a money pit, filled with ungrateful arabs who will crap on us the second we leave anyway.

re: #50 CIA Reject

I'm sure Bill and Hill are already planning for 2012 .

Very good point. It might be in their best interest to see Barak lose. /conspiracy mode off/

re: #42 faraway
LOL! Around here, I imagine many don't, but then again, around here, I don't think there are too many. A few. One that I know supporting bambi stated the oft heard "I want change" as a resonse to my question of why he's volting for bambi, and no, he couldn't tell me what that meant. Of a married couple I know who have a daughter in the Military and are voting for bambi, they have advanced BDS. Most people here are conservative though, of 6 women in my office, 4 are stated Republicans, and we're all voting McCain/Palin. The 2 Dem women are mostly silent...

re: #46 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ignore all polls except Zogby. He's the only one with a good track record.

Didn't Zogby have Kerry beating Bush in 2004? Rasmussen is usually correct.

re: #39 Researcher...MO

What I find interesting is a lack of bumper stickers and yard signs...

One reason you don't see many McCain bumper stickers in some areas is the threat of having your car keyed.

McCain has all the fight in him that Bob Dole had. We are toast this time.

re: #58 DaChew

I agree with you. The MSM is systematically destroying this country. What can we do? They alone will be responsible for the destruction of this country.

re: #53 Honorary Yooper

I haven't seen too many Obama signs around here, near Chicago, but there are the bumper sitckers. Now, on the other hand, I have seen a ton of McCain yard signs. I even have one.

Check the cemetarys. I'm sure more than a few plots are Obama supporters.

re: #36 The Other Les

The problem is that we are simply too nice. We are too civilized.

We need to face the fact that what we are up against are the new barbarians. We are up against people who believe (even if they don't admit it) that the rest of us are no better than livestock that they can use or are diseased animals fit only for extermination. That is why such regimes when they obtain power always run up body counts in the thousands or the millions.

When are we going to take the gloves off?

Here are the rules that they follow:

The Alinksky Manifesto:

RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."
Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people."
It results in confusion, fear and retreat.
Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don't address the "real" issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy."
Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity's very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."
There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid "un-fun" activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
Don't become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up."
Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive."
Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

re: #62 so.cal.swede

Very good point. It might be in their best interest to see Barak lose. /conspiracy mode off/

Yes. good point. There is no way she will get elected if Barry gets it and screws it up.

If we've learned one thing in the past eight years, it's that the MSM doesn't have a shred of credibility left. The more they tell is that the race is over, the harder we should fight.

re: #38 Ringo the Gringo

Thanks for the pics.

It's always the usual suspects playing the role of the wackos. I mean would you buy a used car from any of those people in those pics (minus the signs and t-shirts)?

I think the polls are worthless, at least at this time. We've all noted the "weighting" of the polls with more democrats than republicans. There was a Rasmussen poll taken over the weekend about who won the debate. Take a look at the first question:
1* How much of the Vice-Presidential Debate did you watch live last night?

58% All of it

19% Most of it

14% Some of it

8% None of it

1% Not sure

Good grief! This is supposedly reputable pollster and yet, they are included folks who didn't watch the debate, and the totally clueless in their polling data.

Just like four years ago, anything can happen, and nobody really knows the outcome yet of course. I remember how confident all of the liberal degenerates were last time around, and we all know how that went. A few of the liberal degenerates even committed suicide after their extremely pathetic candidate lost.

Degenerate liberals are even more confident this time around, and an Obama defeat would certainly come as a shock to these brainwashed simpletons. I wonder if any of the Liberal predictions and their threats will come true, such as riots........

When Barack Obama's socialist, degenerate cousin in Kenya, Raila Odinga, lost the election, deadly riots were instigated in that country. Obama supporters in this country might not have machetes at their disposal, but I expect a whole bunch of them to just lose it in the case of an Obama loss.

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Hi! Welcome back!

I'm not giving up. Even if I'm worried.

re: #65 ErnieG

One reason you don't see many McCain bumper stickers in some areas is the threat of having your car keyed.

but see, that's just political mischievousness.

If someone keyed an obama-stickered car, it would be the equivalent of an effigy hanging of Barry'O.

I still feel this way much of the time....

re: #43 MJBrutus

...I'm sorry to be such a downer, but I just don't see gentleman Johnny getting it done.

Since McCain has, in the past, cross the aisle in bipartisan ways, I wonder if the left has something on him, anything, that is causing him to treat Obama with kid gloves?

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Huh. They're really obsessed with her winking.

Female moonbats think Palin got where she got by being flirty.

Fall seven times, stand up eight. ~Japanese Proverb

The gf and I drove up to Orange County NY over the past weekend for some apple picking and noticed a lot of yeard signs on people's lawns... I would say by a 3-1 margin, they were McCain-Palin signs... Surprising considering a decent portion of those folks commute and work in NYC and I am fairly sure that area goes for Dems...

That said, I am voting for McCain and trying torelay the message to others to vote for John McCain mainly because the other option is not palateable... However, I really, really do not see it happening. I don't think the polls are wrong and I actually think this time, the youth vote will come out for The One..

It's not over but it's getting late early...

re: #61 strangelove

you and Caribou Barbie

Reading the Huffington post again?

re: #71 cicero05

WE all know that. Its the uninformed public which we need to educate about the MSM.

re: #43 MJBrutus

If McCain does lose I'd prefer him to lose big. The Republicans need a big wakeup call. The Republicans should have never nominated him. He openly admits he doesn't understand economics and he's running during an economic crisis. I loved Rudy but he was unelectable (too many scandals and affairs). Romney couldn't get nominated or elected due to religious bigotry. The rest of the pack were assorted nuts. The Dems had good solid candidates. Edwards blew up but Hillary, Richardson and Obama were pretty solid choices and any of them would have done well. Even a moderately competent and experienced Republican candidate should be stomping Obama right now. The Republicans need to get their shit together and make some serious changes.

re: #65 ErnieG

I thought long and hard about that before proudly applying mine to my bumper, you see, my car was once keyed (before it was my car), and the mark is still there :) But the real reason I had resesrvations wasn't because of the local population, but the tourist population from KC & STL.

re: #73 seekeroftruth

I think the polls are worthless, at least at this time. We've all noted the "weighting" of the polls with more democrats than republicans. There was a Rasmussen poll taken over the weekend about who won the debate. Take a look at the first question:
1* How much of the Vice-Presidential Debate did you watch live last night?

58% All of it

19% Most of it

14% Some of it

8% None of it

1% Not sure

Good grief! This is supposedly reputable pollster and yet, they are included folks who didn't watch the debate, and the totally clueless in their polling data.

These "not sure" people worry me. I sometimes think if you asked them if they were alive, they'd say "Not sure".

Obama's Blue Shirts, fascinating:

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

Just be happy you can show both eyes.

I am at a trade show, very Republican. The cocktail talk last night was how to limit Obama to one term!
cCaain has got to go Defcon 1 & get people pumped.
Screw the Media, they will only like McCain, if he agrees to be a good loser.

Good Bye National City Bank/Mortgage, others know the true value of real estate in Calif. , Florida, and Mich. and you always have been a bunch of ass holes any how, its not nice to lie about assets.

.01 cents per share dividend, why even go to the f'n trouble.

re: #57 Noam Sayin'

As much as I like you dude, that statement just lowered my opinion of you dramatically.

I can live with that.

re: #54 Ringo the Gringo

Remember how they hated everything about Bush? I never noticed his "smirking", but the press and the left decided it was his characteristic expression. Always surprising, what people will focus on.

re: #84 Killgore Trout

If McCain does lose I'd prefer him to lose big. The Republicans need a big wakeup call. The Republicans should have never nominated him. He openly admits he doesn't understand economics and he's running during an economic crisis. I loved Rudy but he was unelectable (too many scandals and affairs). Romney couldn't get nominated or elected due to religious bigotry. The rest of the pack were assorted nuts. The Dems had good solid candidates. Edwards blew up but Hillary, Richardson and Obama were pretty solid choices and any of them would have done well. Even a moderately competent and experienced Republican candidate should be stomping Obama right now. The Republicans need to get their shit together and make some serious changes.

No fucking way. McCain failing big == Obama's MANDATE to lead bullshit. No way Kilgore - you are wrong.

re: #66 Lizard by the Bay

McCain has all the fight in him that Bob Dole had. We are toast this time.

I'm withholding judgemnet till tomorrow. The debate can count for a lot this time.

re: #86 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

These "not sure" people worry me. I sometimes think if you asked them if they were alive, they'd say "Not sure".

HA HA Haaaaaaa!

re: #75 Dianna

Thanks. It's good to be home again.

I have been cut off, yelled at, swerved at and given death looks for my McCain bumper sticker. All the perps were young blacks.

re: #14 Killgore Trout

I know everybody thinks I'm a Gloomy Gus these days but I'm not counting on the polls being wrong.

I'm not "counting on the polls being wrong". I merely see too much indication of internal bias in the past (in all but Zogby's.) I'm taking them with a grain of salt.

10-15 years ago, I did a fair amount of reading on marketing research, a sister field to opinion polling. I learned enough to realize how easy it is to twist a poll's results, but more than that, how easy it is for the pollster to have internal blind spots which don't let him/her ask the proper questions, in the proper manner.

It's all just a tactic.

Laying the groundwork for the "they stole the elections" warcry as the fires start in the inner cities and spread nation-wide.

#37

Reason and logic would have discounted the stock and real estate prices two years ago.

re: #84 Killgore Trout

Not to re-fight old battles, but Romney was my man. I disagree about the religious bigotry angle. It cost him the nomination, much to the disgrace of the religious right. I think that after his concession speech at CPAC even they came to realize the magnitude of the mistake they made.