Pat Condell Won't Back Down
Video | Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:09:17 pm PDT
Pat Condell has a few words for the people who got YouTube to ban his last video, and a bit of a clarification on his views about the religious apartheid kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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Video | Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:09:17 pm PDT
Pat Condell has a few words for the people who got YouTube to ban his last video, and a bit of a clarification on his views about the religious apartheid kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:14:14pm |
Man he sounded angrier than normal in this one. Still kept hammering away at the facts though. As sharmuta said on the last thread: "Pat for anti-idiotarian of the year".
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Globular Cluster Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:14:45pm |
God Bless 'em. Firebreathing Asskicker extraordinaire.
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FrogMarch Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:15:26pm |
Pat Condell is my boyfriend.
poopy oatmeal notwithstanding.
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:15:35pm |
re: #4 BlueCanuck
Though Penn & Teller have made a strong case for themselves also. I'm still in favor of Pat though, because he's one guy with a video camera making a big difference.
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summergurl Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:17:07pm |
OT - Does anyone have a link to Palin addressing that heckler in Florida today? They showed it on FOX but I can't find it there.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:18:03pm |
re: #8 summergurl
Gateway Pundit's blog has it. Don't have a link handy unfortunately.
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:18:26pm |
re: #7 Sharmuta
I've said it before... I fear for his safety!
Oh yeh! Just remembered ...No guns in Britian!
Never mind! /////
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:18:49pm |
Here it is...
I'm in love! Palin Leaves Crazed Protester Speechless! Crowd Goes Nuts!
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:19:04pm |
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arethusa Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:19:07pm |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:19:13pm |
It's gone already?
Damn. I never saw it....
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:20:46pm |
Ironically, this is the song that Tom Petty sang during the 9/11 telethon.
Where did that spirit go?
Off to eat suppah.
BBL
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Basho Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:20:51pm |
In the previous thread, I said The Jewel of Medina was banned in the UK, but I got my facts wrong. The publisher in London got firebombed so it was put on permanent hold.
[Link: www.beaufortbooks.com...]
It has been released in the US today, so order a copy if you want to piss off those Islamo-fascists in England. This is the same book that you may have heard Random House didn't want to publish.
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:21:59pm |
From an article about Obama's pals, a commenter calls attention to a children's book about Barack Obama here.
Just when you thought it couldn't get creepier. (Hope I'm not too terribly far off topic...just sitting here with my jaw on the floor.)
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:22:40pm |
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AMER1CAN Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:23:24pm |
OT: Newsweek Article. (sorry if posted earlier...)
Obama and the Echoes of Lincoln
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:23:58pm |
re: #13 musicman
Here it is...
I love her, I love her, I love her. Not in a girl crush way, but like I wanna be her when I grow up (even though I'm about her age already).
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BrianA Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:24:20pm |
"A vote forLaborDemocrats is a vote for Islam."
Fixed that.
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FrogMarch Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:24:29pm |
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kingkenrod Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:25:17pm |
"A vote for Labour is a vote for Islam".
That's a powerful idea, it should be spread far and wide and repeated often.
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Basho Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:25:37pm |
re: #20 Basho
Wikipedia says that book was withdrawn from Serbia after some Muslims complained there, but the book then became heavily pirated, so the publishers brought it back. Hooray!
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jcbunga Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:27:29pm |
I've only recently heard this guy speak, but I have to say he speaks with the wonderful clarity, diction, wit and accent that made Great Britain such a pleasure for us Colonials to first rebel against and then defend.
WE need guys like this here. What a shame it's come to this.
Any Brits need a safe haven, come on over. I promise not to toss any tea in the harbor.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:28:16pm |
Good job here, could someone explain why it would be a bad thing for the US to sieze the oil fields and spend 10% of the free market income the oil generates on giving the locals (who happen to be oppressed Shia) a real education that stresses tolerance.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:28:32pm |
re: #31 jcbunga
Any Brits need a safe haven, come on over. I promise not to toss any tea in the harbor.
Well, unless you are looking to make a real large cuppa. . . . . .
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Basho Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:29:56pm |
re: #4 BlueCanuck
Man he sounded angrier than normal in this one.
He was definitely more confrontational than usual. Much more blunt. After YouTube caved to pressure from his fans to bring back his previous video, he must have felt emboldened.
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:30:43pm |
re: #22 capitalist piglet
From an article about Obama's pals, a commenter calls attention to a children's book about Barack Obama here.
Just when you thought it couldn't get creepier. (Hope I'm not too terribly far off topic...just sitting here with my jaw on the floor.)
This picture is very much like this picture. Extremely creepy.
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:30:47pm |
re: #31 jcbunga
Actually- I hope that more Brits decide to stay and fight for their own country instead of retreating and leaving it to the islamists. Pat is doing his part to rally his countrymen, and I sure hope more Westerners from all across Europe and here in America too stand up and fight the good fight like Pat's doing.
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Gozer the Carpathian Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:31:37pm |
WTG Pat! Woo hoo! Kick those Brits in their "fundament." So British. :)
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:31:55pm |
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
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FlakMusic Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:32:19pm |
I need to use the word fundament more often.
Example: Abu Hamsa became infamous putting the fundament into fundamentalist.
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Ringo the Gringo Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:33:32pm |
Love it!
I have an old friend who is both an athiest and an uber-Lefty, multi-culturalist, citizen of the world, and every time Pat Condell puts out a new video I email it to him.
Looks like he can expect another one tonight.
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alien_mind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:33:47pm |
this guy is on fire. I love how he pauses when he refers to Islams "scholars".
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:35:20pm |
re: #35 musicman
Yeah...and the people doing this stuff don't even see how glassy-eyed and weird they look to the rest of us. It's like they're carriers of a virus, and we don't have it.
Creeeeeeeepy.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:36:48pm |
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martinleaf Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:37:12pm |
Pat really turned me off when he lectured Jews to give Jerusalem to the Arabs and Muslims. Anyone have the link of that video?
I hope he has learned since then.
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FrogMarch Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:37:48pm |
Speaking of not voting Labor - or Democrat - or Socialist (all the same)
Could you shake hands with William Ayers?
Keep in mind, from where I sit, the only difference between Ayers and Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph is that the latter two are more skilled at bomb-building, and Ayers got off on prosecutorial misconduct. Their methods and capacity for self-justification are the same.
Could you shake hands with McVeigh or Rudolph? (Yes, I know McVeigh was executed years ago.) If they were released from prison, could you go work for them? Would you want to count them as allies? Go to their house as they threw a party for you? Would you accept a donation from them?
The Inevitable 'This Isn't the Bill Ayers I Thought I Knew' Excuse
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:38:58pm |
Anyone have links to the petition he's talking about?
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arethusa Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:39:08pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
The statute of limitations on rape in Michigan is 10 years. The story is vile and disgusting if it's true, but since the School of Education already hired Ayers, an admitted terrorist, I somehow don't think they'd be bothered by this.
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ArmyWife Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:40:22pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
I am speechless and I literally have chills.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:40:45pm |
re: #48 arethusa
The statute of limitations on rape in Michigan is 10 years. The story is vile and disgusting if it's true, but since the School of Education already hired Ayers, an admitted terrorist, I somehow don't think they'd be bothered by this.
Can we get him listed as a registered sex offender? That would keep him out of schools.
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:41:07pm |
Pat's right on target.
re: #22 capitalist piglet
From an article about Obama's pals, a commenter calls attention to a children's book about Barack Obama here.
Just when you thought it couldn't get creepier. (Hope I'm not too terribly far off topic...just sitting here with my jaw on the floor.)
From the article about the children's book Barak by Jonah Winter:
Kate McMillan of Small Dead Animals points me to an interview with the author.
Where I grew up in Texas, my classmates used racial epithets on a regular basis. In my neighborhood, people would not sell their houses to African Americans.
Where I grew up in East Texas, we played with black kids. When I was old enough to realize that a few kids wouldn't play with the African-American children because their skin was a different color, I quit hanging around those few kids.
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FlakMusic Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:41:31pm |
re: #35 musicman
This picture is very much like this picture. Extremely creepy.
Me too...and it will continue to do so until Obama can pull off some miracles...like a loaves and fishes thing to make Social Security solvent.
Or, when he tells Chuck Graham to stand up...CHUCK DOES!
Until then he's just another pretender.
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Alouette Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:41:31pm |
re: #45 martinleaf
Pat really turned me off when he lectured Jews to give Jerusalem to the Arabs and Muslims. Anyone have the link of that video?
I hope he has learned since then.
Yeah, that was muy stupido.
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arethusa Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:42:22pm |
re: #50 lifeofthemind
Can we get him listed as a registered sex offender? That would keep him out of schools.
I'm sure a registered sex offender has to have been convicted first.
I didn't think Ayers could sink any lower in my opinion, but he has with that story.
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Alouette Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:42:45pm |
re: #22 capitalist piglet
From an article about Obama's pals, a commenter calls attention to a children's book about Barack Obama here.
Just when you thought it couldn't get creepier. (Hope I'm not too terribly far off topic...just sitting here with my jaw on the floor.)
What asre they going to do with all those books when Obi-bam Kenya-bi loses the election?
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:42:46pm |
Bank of America just announced dividend cut in half, earnings half of predicted. Not totally unforeseen, this is their first report including Countrywide, but will weigh on the market tomorrow. Stock down three bucks (10%) aftermarket.
/hey charles the typing is better now in IE6, thanx.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:42:56pm |
re: #46 FrogMarch
Speaking of not voting Labor - or Democrat - or Socialist (all the same)
The Inevitable 'This Isn't the Bill Ayers I Thought I Knew' Excuse
Having heard Bill Ayers talk, thanks to some audio links provided on LGF a month or so back, I can tell you I'd never associate with him. The guy is a conspiracy theorist wacko. He has some very bizarre views about America, no better than someone who believes in ufos.
Like this guy:
only he's a comedian, and is funny. Ayers is mean.
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FlakMusic Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:42:58pm |
re: #53 Alouette
Yeah, that was muy stupido.
Pat goes off the rails quickly when he gets off the topic of Islam.
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ArmyWife Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:44:47pm |
re: #50 lifeofthemind
If he wasn't convicted, he isn't one and doesn't get registered. I understand your sentiment, believe me I do, but I would guess deep down you wouldn't want people to end up on that list because someone of the street nominated them to it.
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:45:01pm |
Kinky, when I move cursor over the "front page" or other link in the box above the entry frame, the entry frame (containing the username and text entry box) moves down a quarter inch. Then when I move the cursor back over the entry frame, it moves back. Almost a throb-on-command.
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nyc redneck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:45:10pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
ayers is a monster, in all ways.
a psychopath.
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brickthruplateglasswindow Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:45:51pm |
Is it only me, or does a "kick in the crotch" sounds almost inviting when expressed with a British accent?
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:45:54pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
This stuff just never seems to end. There's gonna be more, and more, and more. Scary.
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:46:29pm |
re: #29 kingkenrod
"A vote for Labour is a vote for Islam".
That's a powerful idea, it should be spread far and wide and repeated often.
When I was in high school, during the Neil Kinnock days (pre-Thatcher), it was pretty much Labour's attitude that the USSR and PRC were destined to rule the world, and therefore they intended that Britain be on the winning side, no matter what the British people's opinion on the subject might be. Because, of course, Labour's leaders were "enlightened intellectuals" like Michael R.D. Foot, and the average Briton was a "stupid peasant".
Today, it's the same attitude at work, except that they're trying to get pats on the head from Islamic clerics instead of whoever's in charge in the Kremlin at any given moment.
Labour over there, like the Dems over here, seem to be engaged in an eternal search for a genuinely bloody-minded, utterly maniacal dictator or group of same to swear fealty to.
Somehow, I doubt that Queen Victoria or King Arthur would be amused.
cheers
eon
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ArmyWife Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:46:51pm |
re: #56 Alouette
We can hope they buy an island and all move there where Barry can be King complete with BK crown and they can worship him as they wish.
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gop_patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:47:01pm |
From Iowahawk's YouTube page, just added today...
Pretty funny, that is, if you can handle listening to that god-awful "music" that those kids are singing. Really, and this is coming from someone who attended a "progressive" school in the 70s, what total crap.
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Shug Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:47:26pm |
so according to the saudi clerica, the perfect islamic woman is the cyclops.
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Alouette Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:48:13pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
This lady sounds like she has some scoops of tehina missing from her falafel.
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:48:19pm |
re: #56 Alouette
What asre they going to do with all those books when Obi-bam Kenya-bi loses the election?
Bargain bin? I pray you're right about him losing.
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:48:58pm |
Fantastic--this guy speaks for millions of people all around the world. Now, what to do-- sign the petition or go shopping for a one eye(d) burqa?
/decisions, decisions
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:50:30pm |
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:51:39pm |
re: #71 Alouette
I think her article would have been more effective had she not used a couple of words in particular to describe her experience. On the other hand, she can say whatever she wants about it - at least she's got the guts to go public.
As I was reading it, I was thinking how it really wasn't hard to believe, if you remember the sixties at all (and I was a child, but I do).
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nyc redneck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:51:39pm |
obama hates the american flag too.
he was dragged kicking and screaming to that little lapel pin.
he wouldn't be wearing "it" now, unless he had to.
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legalpad Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:51:44pm |
re: #44 unrealizedviewpoint
It creeps me out, but I'm prejudiced. One need ask an agnostic or atheist if it creeps them out.
Yes it does creep me out -
And maybe these
[Link: www.bytwerk.com...]
[Link: www.clas.ufl.edu...]
[Link: www.cwporter.com...]
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:52:06pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
Um, try to prove it in a court of law.
It sounds very Patty Hearst, very sixties. I suppose I believe it, as I believe so many stories about Bill Clinton, that could never be proved in a court of law. I wonder if Ayers would freely admit it. I wonder if Obama would denounce it. This is not always a very pretty world.
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FrogMarch Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:52:43pm |
re: #58 Archimedes
Having heard Bill Ayers talk, thanks to some audio links provided on LGF a month or so back, I can tell you I'd never associate with him. The guy is a conspiracy theorist wacko. He has some very bizarre views about America, no better than someone who believes in ufos.
Like this guy:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]only he's a comedian, and is funny. Ayers is mean.
I feel like a vote for the modern democrat party - in it's current sad state - is a vote for Alex Jones and paranoid schizophrenia.
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Basho Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:52:53pm |
re: #47 Quilly Mammoth
Anyone have links to the petition he's talking about?
It's for UK citizens only. It's on the video description at the youtube site.
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Alouette Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:53:13pm |
re: #75 capitalist piglet
As I was reading it, I was thinking how it really wasn't hard to believe, if you remember the sixties at all (and I was a child, but I do).
If you remember the sixties, you weren't there. :)
This story creeped me out because this person has been in my neighborhood.
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Steve Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:54:29pm |
The women of Saudi Arabia are the ones who raise the kids and instill this pathetic train of thought about women. Or am I missing something here.
I agree with what Pat says but it is just a thought.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:54:39pm |
re: #68 gop_patriot
From Iowahawk's YouTube page, just added today...
Pretty funny, that is, if you can handle listening to that god-awful "music" that those kids are singing. Really, and this is coming from someone who attended a "progressive" school in the 70s, what total crap.
I prefered the fat ummm obese ummm chubby ummm, healthy challenged zombies from yesterday on here
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ArmyWife Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:54:47pm |
re: #75 capitalist piglet
I agree - there were some better choices of words to use, and I wonder if her choice is because she still sees herself, in part, as participatory in what happened. I hope I don't sound like I am over analyzing, but I went through something simillar in nature and its amazing what the mind will do to remove self inflicted stigma.
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jaunte Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:54:58pm |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
I guess they missed this part:
"someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes"
It's the trying to kill, Huffpo, not the succeeding, that makes a terrorist.
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FrogMarch Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:54:58pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
Ayres is a holy lefty. I think it will get him a promotion.
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debutaunt Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:55:31pm |
re: #39 FlakMusic
I need to use the word fundament more often.
Example: Abu Hamsa became infamous putting the fundament into fundamentalist.
No - you should really take out the fun.
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:55:53pm |
re: #28 FrogMarch
There's the Johnny Cash version - toooo
Johnny Cash singing with a (somewhat toned down) punk band: Man in Black by One Bad Pig. Takes a few seconds to start.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:55:56pm |
re: #56 Alouette
What asre they going to do with all those books when Obi-bam Kenya-bi loses the election?
I wonder what will be more disappointing to Gwen, her book flopping, the loss of potentially millions, or the One losing?
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ArmyWife Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:55:56pm |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
Can you reply and point out Police offers were also killed?
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:56:03pm |
re: #57 itellu3times
Bank of America just announced dividend cut in half, earnings half of predicted. Not totally unforeseen, this is their first report including Countrywide, but will weigh on the market tomorrow. Stock down three bucks (10%) aftermarket.
/hey charles the typing is better now in IE6, thanx.
Well they did agree to a 300 billion dollar settlement in the lawsuits filed ag ainst Country Wide, and BofA agreed to take on the debt....they had to get the money from somewhere. Not that the dividend cut doesn't suck....
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markie Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:56:10pm |
Here's to free speech and Pat's exercising of it. Maybe someday the government in England, as well as Canada and the US, will throw off the chains of Political Correctness and get back to our regular programs.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:56:25pm |
re: #38 lifeofthemind
Has anybody seen this? What is the statute of limitations on aiding coercing to enable a rape? Can this at least get Ayers kicked out of the State University School of Education?
Wow, the guy is evil. That was a January 2006 article, too.
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alien_mind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:57:09pm |
boy, i wish i could have attended this conference about intellectuals, especially the Saturday program, say from 2:15 to 3:45. two of Chicago's brightest intellectuals took the stage.
//
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:57:25pm |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
This is in a spinoff link, but deserves to be seen on the main threads: a Huffpo "refutation of 30 lies about Obama and Ayers."
The piece includes this blatant howler, among many others:
How about Bill's girlfriend Diana Oughton, and two others, who were working on an antipersonnel bomb of Bill's own design?
they got us on a technicality. Diana died at her own hands (albeit making a bomb TOO kill innocents) So technically, its correct!
((geeezz , I could write for the Obama campaing and/or the NYT! Oh ,, wait ,, thats one and the same
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ArmyWife Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:57:34pm |
re: #96 buzzsawmonkey
I think I am fresh out of antibacterial soap. Anyone else?
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nyc redneck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:58:03pm |
re: #85 ArmyWife
I agree - there were some better choices of words to use, and I wonder if her choice is because she still sees herself, in part, as participatory in what happened. I hope I don't sound like I am over analyzing, but I went through something simillar in nature and its amazing what the mind will do to remove self inflicted stigma.
i thought her story was very believable.
why would a terrorist bomber like ayers, who sought to kill, stop short of rape.
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arethusa Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:58:16pm |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
This is in a spinoff link, but deserves to be seen on the main threads: a Huffpo "refutation of 30 lies about Obama and Ayers."
The piece includes this blatant howler, among many others:
How about Bill's girlfriend Diana Oughton, and two others, who were working on an antipersonnel bomb of Bill's own design?
How about the phrase "tries to"? Seems like he tried to me.
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Jim D Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:58:55pm |
re: #83 Steve
what happens to a woman when her husband learns what she's been telling the kids?
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LoFlyer Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:59:19pm |
Arr, Pat! You be 'me hero! Evening guys, looking for a new job, and now's a bad time. Talked with 'me brother, he works for Emory University, and their network environment is similar to ours, except they have a lot more money. Shipping my resume to him tomorrow. And yes, I am still employed but have am tired of being the lowest paid network engineer in the metro Atlanta area and treated like crap.....
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Thanos Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:59:33pm |
re: #13 musicman
Here it is...
That's getting some heavy play right now, it spins when you try to access it
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:59:37pm |
re: #99 ArmyWife
I think I am fresh out of antibacterial soap. Anyone else?
I prefer homemade lye soap for such occasions—it'll remove tar, skin, whatever, if made right.
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Racer X Mon, Oct 6, 2008 4:59:50pm |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
This is in a spinoff link, but deserves to be seen on the main threads: a Huffpo "refutation of 30 lies about Obama and Ayers."
The piece includes this blatant howler, among many others:
How about Bill's girlfriend Diana Oughton, and two others, who were working on an antipersonnel bomb of Bill's own design?
Let me get this straight - the left is actually defending Bill Ayers?
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:01:19pm |
re: #83 Steve
The women of Saudi Arabia are the ones who raise the kids and instill this pathetic train of thought about women. Or am I missing something here.
I agree with what Pat says but it is just a thought.
First of all- fathers and mosques have a lot to do with making sure young men and boys are taught this.
Second- this is taught to girls and young women through family conditioning. Children see their mothers being beaten for daring to rebel, and what do you think is being learned by the kids watching this? Both the boys and the girls?
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Racer X Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:01:55pm |
re: #109 ArmyWife
You aren't really surprised, are you?
I guess not - ABC called him a "respected college professor" last night on the news.
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Steve Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:02:37pm |
re: #102 Jim D
There in lies the problem. What a backwards a**hat religion/country
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:02:40pm |
re: #57 itellu3times
Bank of America just announced dividend cut in half, earnings half of predicted. Not totally unforeseen, this is their first report including Countrywide, but will weigh on the market tomorrow. Stock down three bucks (10%) aftermarket.
/hey charles the typing is better now in IE6, thanx.
May be related to the settlement they reached on the Countrywide mortgages, where the deadbeat punks get rate reductions and other concessions, and those that managed to keep up to date without a single late payment, like me, get nothing.
/BofA I am waiting to hear from you!
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nonic Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:02:46pm |
#47 Mammoth
Pat Condell's own site, "Godless Comedy"
[Link: www.patcondell.net...]
People..................
You gotta understand Condell's against ALL organized religion. He dislikes Judaism as much as Christianity as much as islam, or Buddhism or Hinduism, or anything else.
He DOES recognize that it's only islam trying to take over the world. But hang around him long enough, and unless you're an atheist like he is, he'll offend you at some point.
Now, if you're sensitive about that, then you go ahead and condemn him regardless of the fact that he's one of the few voices against islam's aggression right now.
On the other hand, if you can cope with the idea that some people are not going to fit with ALL your beliefs at the same time, and yet they can still be "on your side" in some important way, then cheer him and publicize him.
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jwb7605 Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:02:55pm |
re: #107 Racer X
Let me get this straight - the left is actually defending Bill Ayers?
The left is doing to the sixties what Dinnerjacket (and others) have done to the Holocaust. Even the drug culture part is being turned into a poetic pleasantry.
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:02:59pm |
re: #107 Racer X
Let me get this straight - the left is actually defending Bill Ayers?
Yes. It's come to this.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:03:10pm |
re: #68 gop_patriot
From Iowahawk's YouTube page, just added today...
Pretty funny, that is, if you can handle listening to that god-awful "music" that those kids are singing. Really, and this is coming from someone who attended a "progressive" school in the 70s, what total crap.
That poor kid at the beginning, doing the solo, makes me want to stick pointy objects into my ears. She has a voice only a mother could love.
It reminds me of that scene from Music Man where the "band" plays so that Robert Prestons charater isn't hauled off to the pokey.
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:03:23pm |
re: #104 Thanos
That's getting some heavy play right now, it spins when you try to access it
That's the power of the internet!
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arethusa Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:03:24pm |
re: #111 Racer X
I guess not - ABC called him a "respected college professor" last night on the news.
Respected by whom? Timothy McVeigh? Osama bin Laden? The Huffington Post?
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:03:46pm |
re: #107 Racer X
Let me get this straight - the left is actually defending Bill Ayers?
Well..yeah..they have to. Otherwise Ayers' past and subsequent friendship with Obama will stick to the 'O' like glue. They have two choices - deny the friendship or minimize what Ayers did. They're doing both right now.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:04:36pm |
re: #107 Racer X
Let me get this straight - the left is actually defending Bill Ayers?
And this shocks you because?
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:05:19pm |
re: #60 ArmyWife
If he wasn't convicted, he isn't one and doesn't get registered. I understand your sentiment, believe me I do, but I would guess deep down you wouldn't want people to end up on that list because someone of the street nominated them to it.
Not saying there shouldn't be a process but the need to punish through a criminal process is not the same as the need to protect through a civil action. Investigate and report. Either he sues her or he is branded.
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:05:32pm |
re: #119 arethusa
Respected by whom? Timothy McVeigh? Osama bin Laden? The Huffington Post?
BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA that's whom!
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Wishing Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:05:43pm |
re: #68 gop_patriot
From Iowahawk's YouTube page, just added today...
Pretty funny, that is, if you can handle listening to that god-awful "music" that those kids are singing. Really, and this is coming from someone who attended a "progressive" school in the 70s, what total crap.
When the kid rounded the corner on the little scooter, and those two gals were standing there, I expected to hear, You have entered a Dead Zone
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:05:46pm |
re: #120 rightymouse
Well..yeah..they have to. Otherwise Ayers' past and subsequent friendship with Obama will stick to the 'O' like glue. They have two choices - deny the friendship or minimize what Ayers did. They're doing both right now.
Yep...some of these folks should join Circque du Soliel,,,,they have an amazing ability to twist themselves in a manner that boggles.
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arethusa Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:05:58pm |
re: #115 jwb7605
The left is doing to the sixties what Dinnerjacket (and others) have done to the Holocaust. Even the drug culture part is being turned into a poetic pleasantry.
As an academic, I have to say, the sixties have completely corrupted a great many good minds among my older colleagues - whether it was drugs, or Vietnam, or the mistaken idea that they were creating Utopia, these people are just not sane on the subject.
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stuiec Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:06:26pm |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
This is in a spinoff link, but deserves to be seen on the main threads: a Huffpo "refutation of 30 lies about Obama and Ayers."
How about this: the founder of the Weatherman organization, one of its philosophical and practical leaders through the Weather Underground days, and the designer of its bombs is a full conspirator in all of its crimes and equally guilty with those whose hands planted the bomb in S.F. that killed a cop, set off the work accident that killed three of the organization's members, and shot the cops and guard in the Brink's armored car robbery.
Because the Weather Underground killed people, and tried to kill many more, William Ayers killed people, and tried to kill many more. There is no way to divorce him from the actions he inspired, enabled and spurred on.
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calcajun Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:06:46pm |
The spirit of Winston Churchill DOES still exist on the sceptered aisle ...er,...isle--yeah isle.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:06:47pm |
re: #127 arethusa
As an academic, I have to say, the sixties have completely corrupted a great many good minds among my older colleagues - whether it was drugs, or Vietnam, or the mistaken idea that they were creating Utopia, these people are just not sane on the subject.
Can't stand most hippies..I have a few exceptions...all of them conservative now.
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LoFlyer Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:07:21pm |
re: #110 Sharmuta
First of all- fathers and mosques have a lot to do with making sure young men and boys are taught this.
Second- this is taught to girls and young women through family conditioning. Children see their mothers being beaten for daring to rebel, and what do you think is being learned by the kids watching this? Both the boys and the girls?
Arr mate, the Saud's made a terrible pact with Wahabi religion to gain control of the country, in return for their support the Saud's granted the Wahabi religious carte blanche as the official religion of the state. The Saud family is apparently moderate Islamists but the country is ruled by a fanatical religion.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:08:02pm |
re: #128 stuiec
How about this: the founder of the Weatherman organization, one of its philosophical and practical leaders through the Weather Underground days, and the designer of its bombs is a full conspirator in all of its crimes and equally guilty with those whose hands planted the bomb in S.F. that killed a cop, set off the work accident that killed three of the organization's members, and shot the cops and guard in the Brink's armored car robbery.
Because the Weather Underground killed people, and tried to kill many more, William Ayers killed people, and tried to kill many more. There is no way to divorce him from the actions he inspired, enabled and spurred on.
In spite of the FBI fucking up the wire tap thing allowing this POS to get off on a technicality.
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:08:02pm |
re: #122 buzzsawmonkey
It's called "the two misstatements solution." Just as mendacious as the "two-state solution" in the Middle East, but applied domestically.
Never quite looked at it that way regarding the ME, but I'll munch on it a while.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:08:12pm |
Wish G.W.Bush would say as much as Pat Condell says.
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:08:22pm |
re: #107 Racer X
Let me get this straight - the left is actually defending Bill Ayers?
Yes, and good little wannabee Lenins Stalins that they are, I suspect that they have no idea what a colossal mistake they are making.
However trendy it may be on the left to take up the cause of homicidal loonies with a "progressive" cause, be it Bill Ayers or Mumia Abu-Jemal, it doesn't play well in Flyover Country. Defending Ayers at this juncture may be the only move they have, though, as no one is buying The One's "disavowal" of him. He's already thrown too many of his other mentors under the bus, and people are noticing how bumpy the ride is.
There really is no good move they can make here. Except, of course, to wish that The One would have had better sense than to hook up with Bill the Bomber to begin with.
Although I'm sure that many of his defenders agree with him when he says he didn't set off enough bombs. After all, their ideal symbol, the old hammer and sickle, isn't flying over the White House.
/but they're working on that, too, I'm sure
cheers
eon
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:09:00pm |
re: #110 Sharmuta
First of all- fathers and mosques have a lot to do with making sure young men and boys are taught this.
Second- this is taught to girls and young women through family conditioning. Children see their mothers being beaten for daring to rebel, and what do you think is being learned by the kids watching this? Both the boys and the girls?
Imagine you are a strong person who is kidnapped and abused for a long period of time. Would you be able to avoid falling into Stockholm Syndrome and begin to excuse the behavior of your captors and begin to rationalize and defend their excesses? Now imagine that you have been placed in such a situation from birth—the boys are taught to beat, hurt and even kill without mercy for their god demands it and the girls are taught to submit and endure and take the abuse as a sign of love. I think the entire region of the Middle East suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.
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yochanan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:09:28pm |
re: #78 itellu3times
Um, try to prove it in a court of law.
It sounds very Patty Hearst, very sixties. I suppose I believe it, as I believe so many stories about Bill Clinton, that could never be proved in a court of law. I wonder if Ayers would freely admit it. I wonder if Obama would denounce it. This is not always a very pretty world.
niave jewish girlie, now adays they would call it date rape or worse, this was an in between time a few years before she would have never gone into his apt to begin with but this was the 60's a very uneven period to say the least. FOR SURE HE IS SCUM a narciistic terrorist
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:09:31pm |
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:09:41pm |
re: #135 Ojoe
Wish G.W.Bush would say as much as Pat Condell says.
Actually, with 3 months to go, I'd prefer he remain silent.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:10:28pm |
re: #141 unrealizedviewpoint
Actually, with 3 months to go, I'd prefer he remain silent.
Yep...just stay under the bloody radar and enjoy the final days.
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kirkoff Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:10:37pm |
Condell's ridicule of these theocrats warms my soul.
That fatwa requiring one eyed abayas tho, is prophylaxis in anticipation
of next years rumored low cut model.It exposes nostril.
Whenever I see the word abaya,I wonder if it could be related to our word,
"abide",or possibly to the word "obey".
Neither word inspires thoughts of freedom,but of obligation.
That folks,is what "submission " is all about.It is the antithesis of freedom.
Regardless of claims to a great "civilization"those following sharia,are not
equal to those following a more secular civil law.
The difference is what makes us civil(ized).
For this I will not thank G-d,but our founding fathers.
Their foresight in limiting input from those claiming to speak for him
made ours a wonderful country.
I would request his assistance in keeping them the hell away from me.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:10:46pm |
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:10:51pm |
re: #126 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Yep...some of these folks should join Circque du Soliel,,,,they have an amazing ability to twist themselves in a manner that boggles.
It's so much easier being a conservative. One does not have to twist the brain into a mangled mess. It's a relief not to have to lie to oneself any more.
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:11:40pm |
re: #138 David IV of Georgia
I agree. The women have truly submitted in that they must feel hopeless. It's as though it's a warped survival mechanism- like living half a life (or less) is better than no life at all.
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stuiec Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:11:47pm |
re: #133 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
The prosecutorial screw-ups just mean it's illegal to do to Ayers what he did to the cop in S.F., or what was done to Timothy McVeigh. No doubt if the UNABOM investigation had been similarly tainted, Ted Kaczynski would be a professor of mathematics at some university rather than in supermax.
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:12:21pm |
re: #143 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Yep...just stay under the bloody radar and enjoy the final days.
He can do a Jimmuh and speak his mind the day after the election is finalized.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:12:25pm |
re: #146 rightymouse
It's so much easier being a conservative. One does not have to twist the brain into a mangled mess. It's a relief not to have to lie to oneself any more.
It is, isn't it? Life is way simpler.
I, for one, am a happy person. I don't understand how these bitter lefties can live filled with such bile! How miserable they are.
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yochanan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:13:14pm |
re: #100 nyc redneck
remember ayers was a trust fund terrorist, before he became a terrorist i bet he had no problem with raping his dates and his rich capitalist father more than likely protected his sorry azz
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:13:24pm |
re: #147 buzzsawmonkey
If the "two-state solution" in the Middle East is Israel and Jordan--since Jordan is the bulk of Mandate Palestine, and was the part of the Mandate closed to Jewish emigration--I have no problem with a two-state solution.
If a "two-state solution" is actually a 3- or 4-state solution--Jordan, Israel, and either a "Palestine II" consisting of the West Bank and Gaza, or "Palestine II and Palestine III" consisting of the West Bank and Gaza as separate states--you bet I have a problem.
Agreed. Just had not equated the situation to what the lefties are doing to soft-pedal Ayers.
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hazzyday Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:13:27pm |
Who here wears a veil with just one eye showing? It's always two isn't it? They are crazy.
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Oldasdirt Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:13:31pm |
re: #131 Thanos
How the HELL do people like this get into our country?Even more! How do the end up teaching school to our kids?
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Alouette Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:13:34pm |
re: #149 stuiec
The prosecutorial screw-ups just mean it's illegal to do to Ayers what he did to the cop in S.F., or what was done to Timothy McVeigh. No doubt if the UNABOM investigation had been similarly tainted, Ted Kaczynski would be a professor of mathematics at some university rather than in supermax.
Now we have harvested the fruit of the poison tree.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:13:49pm |
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:14:02pm |
Ayers sure as hell was a terrorist. The argument that he did not personally pull the pin on a grenade and toss it is rediculous. Arafat only participated in one operation that I know of. The head of Hizbullah in Lebanon may have never fired a shot for all I know. If you lead, organize, train and direct an organization that commits acts of terror then you are a terrorist.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:14:09pm |
re: #150 David IV of Georgia
He can do a Jimmuh and speak his mind the day after the election is finalized.
I suspect that a lot more than just speaking is going to get done between Nov. 5th and Jan. 20th.
/Are you paying attention Iran?
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:14:20pm |
re: #149 stuiec
The prosecutorial screw-ups just mean it's illegal to do to Ayers what he did to the cop in S.F., or what was done to Timothy McVeigh. No doubt if the UNABOM investigation had been similarly tainted, Ted Kaczynski would be a professor of mathematics at some university rather than in supermax.
Scary, ain't it?
Yet I woudn't trade our justice system for anything in the world. For every bastard who gets off on the technicallities, there are hundres, thousands of convicted criminals in the pokey.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:14:24pm |
re: #143 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Yep...just stay under the bloody radar and enjoy the final days.
Every time he opens his unprepared mouth he proves again and again, as slow as his lips move, his mind moves slower.
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godfrey Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:14:24pm |
re: #156 Oldasdirt
They end up teaching school because conservatives have surrendered the territory. It's your country. Take it back.
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WitchDoctor Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:14:50pm |
Best line:
"I wouldn't vote labour again at gunpoint."
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:14:55pm |
I love a good object lesson! Tomorrow night I wish McCain would wave around the 9/11/2001 edition of the NYT's and then ask Obama how old was he when this was published? And just exactly what happened that same day?
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hazzyday Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:15:36pm |
re: #133 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Ayers should be dumped out of that university or it should have all it's government grants and funding removed. Tenure? baloney to it.
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:15:47pm |
More Bogus Obama Donors Surface
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CBS News has learned that two donors to the Obama campaign that gave a total of $7,722 appear to have made their contributions under fake names that look like they were written by a mouse running across a keyboard: Dahsudhu Hdusahfd of Df, Hawaii with the following employer CZXVC/ZXVZXV and Uadhshgu Hduadh listed as living in Dhff, Florida listed their employer as DASADA/SAFASF.CBS News did not find any records of these last names, towns or employers anywhere else. Newsweek reported two questionable Obama donors over the weekend named “Doodad Pro” and “Good Will”.
Contributions from the two donors Hdusahfd and Hduadh were made on the same day starting on July 16, 2008. Federal Election Commission (FEC) records show the campaign began refunding the donations as early as August 6, 2008.
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Alouette Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:16:18pm |
re: #159 lifeofthemind
Ayers sure as hell was a terrorist. The argument that he did not personally pull the pin on a grenade and toss it is rediculous. Arafat only participated in one operation that I know of. The head of Hizbullah in Lebanon may have never fired a shot for all I know. If you lead, organize, train and direct an organization that commits acts of terror then you are a terrorist.
Eichmann never personally killed anyone.
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:16:26pm |
Oops - here is the link
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:16:36pm |
re: #167 hazzyday
Ayers should be dumped out of that university or it should have all it's government grants and funding removed. Tenure? baloney to it.
Profs like him are why I hestiate to encourage my kids toward college.
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LoFlyer Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:16:39pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
The Sauds are flaming hypocrites.
Arrr, No-Shiit mate! They party like there is no tomorrow when they are out of country!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:16:41pm |
re: #19 loppyd
Ironically, this is the song that Tom Petty sang during the 9/11 telethon.
Where did that spirit go?
Off to eat suppah.
BBL
I love that song. It's a good anthem for though times, and in many ways could serve as John McCain's song.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:16:46pm |
re: #159 lifeofthemind
Ayers sure as hell was a terrorist. The argument that he did not personally pull the pin on a grenade and toss it is rediculous. Arafat only participated in one operation that I know of. The head of Hizbullah in Lebanon may have never fired a shot for all I know. If you lead, organize, train and direct an organization that commits acts of terror then you are a terrorist.
Yeah, but is he a registered terrorist?
/re: registered sex offender
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hazzyday Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:16:53pm |
re: #158 Ojoe
Yes but the people ultimately are the government here.
Ow ow ow
Quoting from the end of the vid. He mean the British government. But no effect if they have been sharia castrated.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:17:10pm |
re: #131 Thanos
Rashid Khalidi member of the PLO? These universities really hire some sweet people, and Obama found another pal.
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Elcid Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:17:46pm |
Pat Condell has NO reason to back down. I just hope the man, doesn't suffer the fate of Theo van Gogh.
If he does, who will then speak for the Brits?
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GregInSeattle Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:17:49pm |
Very well said, Pat. He's a brave, articulate man.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:18:21pm |
re: #107 Racer X
Let me get this straight - the left is actually defending Bill Ayers?
Let them defend him. They'll discredit themselves in so doing. If the enemy is willing to defend territory where you hold all the advantages, by all means let him defend it and crush him there.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:18:52pm |
Gotta cook dinner...the rug rats are rebelling.
BRB
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:19:08pm |
re: #159 lifeofthemind
Ayers sure as hell was a terrorist. The argument that he did not personally pull the pin on a grenade and toss it is rediculous. Arafat only participated in one operation that I know of. The head of Hizbullah in Lebanon may have never fired a shot for all I know. If you lead, organize, train and direct an organization that commits acts of terror then you are a terrorist.
George Bush hasn't even carried so much as a weapon and look what he's being blamed for.
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:19:19pm |
re: #166 musicman
I love a good object lesson! Tomorrow night I wish McCain would wave around the 9/11/2001 edition of the NYT's and then ask Obama how old was he when this was published? And just exactly what happened that same day?
Make sure it's the front page of Arts- that's where the Ayers interview was.
Which makes me tend to suspect the NYT of defining terrorism as nothing more serious than a somewhat extreme version of "performance art", or perhaps "guerilla theatre".
And I'm sure they think that the victims "had it coming" for being on the wrong side of the terrorists' agenda, too.
/To the NYT, only the terrorists are "innocent"
cheers
eon
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calcajun Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:19:21pm |
re: #107 Racer X
What else can they do? Sure, he's an unrepentant bomber--but he's their unrepentant bomber
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doriangrey Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:19:41pm |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
Let them defend him. They'll discredit themselves in so doing. If the enemy is willing to defend territory where you hold all the advantages, by all means let him defend it and crush him there.
How exactly do you discredit someone who has no creditability to start with?
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:20:00pm |
re: #170 Alouette
Eichmann never personally killed anyone.
Feliks Dzhersinsky killed once when someone attacked him in his office.
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vero Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:20:17pm |
1st the Chicago Cubs go down
Now the Chicago white Sox
next will be Chicago Obama
Good year if you despise Chicago, ain't it
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:20:20pm |
re: #168 loppyd
More Bogus Obama Donors Surface
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"Dahsudhu Hdusahfd of Df, Hawaii with the following employer CZXVC/ZXVZXV and Uadhshgu Hduadh listed as living in Dhff, Florida listed their employer as DASADA/SAFASF."
They might be Celtic. I think "Dahsudhu Hdusahfd" is the Celt spelling of David Hasselhoff, and "Uadhshgu Hduadh" is Andy Dick.
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:20:32pm |
re: #151 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
It is, isn't it? Life is way simpler.
I, for one, am a happy person. I don't understand how these bitter lefties can live filled with such bile! How miserable they are.
The bitter lefties are that way methinks because they don't want to ever take responsibility for themselves. Their negative life choices are never examined so they don't grow up and benefit from hindsight. It's so much easier to fling poo elsewhere or expect someone to bail them out than grow a pair and do the right things to better their lives.
Also, I think at some level, they know they are full of crap and are very defensive about it.
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Oldasdirt Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:20:47pm |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
Let them defend him. They'll discredit themselves in so doing. If the enemy is willing to defend territory where you hold all the advantages, by all means let him defend it and crush him there.
I think some general said this one time,"We are surrounded by the enemy on all sides,we have them right where we want them."
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:21:33pm |
One week and one day later and still Jeff Jacoby's devastating column on Barney Frank's pivotal role in the mortgage meltdown is the #1 most emailed story on boston.com!
MOST E-MAILED
1. Frank's fingerprints are all over the financial fiasco
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:21:46pm |
re: #192 Oldasdirt
I think some general said this one time,"We are surrounded by the enemy on all sides,we have them right where we want them."
Chesty Puller frozen Chosin
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:22:09pm |
re: #190 rightymouse
The bitter lefties are that way methinks because they don't want to ever take responsibility for themselves. Their negative life choices are never examined so they don't grow up and benefit from hindsight. It's so much easier to fling poo elsewhere or expect someone to bail them out than grow a pair and do the right things to better their lives.
Also, I think at some level, they know they are full of crap and are very defensive about it.
You nailed it. Is that a new avatar or am I thinking of another mouse?
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experiencedtraveller Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:22:33pm |
re: #178 buzzsawmonkey
Richard Elrod was paralyzed in that incident.
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guzziguy Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:23:25pm |
re: #192 Oldasdirt
I think some general said this one time,"We are surrounded by the enemy on all sides,we have them right where we want them."
"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an
enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
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J.S. Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:23:28pm |
re: #156 Oldasdirt
And then, the funding! The f-0-0K-g domestic terrorists are funding the Palestinian terrorists. Pipes alleges a financial connection (to the tune of $70,000) funneled to Khalidi...Isn't anyone investigating this? And, the connections between Ayers and Khalidi go back to when the PLO was a designated terrorist organization.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:23:42pm |
re: #191 buzzsawmonkey
To distinguish him from the Unibomber, I hereby dub Bill Ayers the Diversibomber.
How about the O-Bomber?
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:23:49pm |
re: #189 CyanSnowHawk
They might be Celtic. I think "Dahsudhu Hdusahfd" is the Celt spelling of David Hasselhoff, and "Uadhshgu Hduadh" is Andy Dick.
I thought they were Amish.
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yochanan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:24:01pm |
until there is peace why do i have to accept any pali state jordan or anywere else?
with peace yes with out peace
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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doriangrey Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:24:17pm |
re: #192 Oldasdirt
I think some general said this one time,"We are surrounded by the enemy on all sides,we have them right where we want them."
ROTFLMAO................I'm pretty sure that was Captain Kirk.......
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guzziguy Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:24:24pm |
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:25:00pm |
re: #113 CyanSnowHawk
May be related to the settlement they reached on the Countrywide mortgages, where the deadbeat punks get rate reductions and other concessions, and those that managed to keep up to date without a single late payment, like me, get nothing.
/BofA I am waiting to hear from you!
Yah. If it's carefully done, it might not be too violently unfair, just a stiffer rate cap and rescheduling and endless negative amortization. But I mean, how about me, I didn't even take a mortgage, can't somebody just send me my share of the $700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 in cash?
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:25:15pm |
I love how a shithead like Ayers can scream about living in a fascist police state for decades, where if the government was actually even remotely what he suggested it is, he would have had been dumped in a ditch with his skull cracked open 30 years ago.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:25:19pm |
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:25:38pm |
re: #194 loppyd
One week and one day later and still Jeff Jacoby's devastating column on Barney Frank's pivotal role in the mortgage meltdown is the #1 most emailed story on boston.com!
MOST E-MAILED
1. Frank's fingerprints are all over the financial fiasco
Would that also include Frank's boyfriend in the article?
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:25:55pm |
re: #208 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I love how a shithead like Ayers can scream about living in a fascist police state for decades, where if the government was actually even remotely what he suggested it is, he would have had been dumped in a ditch with his skull cracked open 30 years ago.
The irony is lost on them.
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J.S. Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:26:06pm |
re: #131 Thanos
Is there a written transcript of this broadcast anywhere?
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abu_garcia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:26:53pm |
I logged in just for the pleasure of giving this a "+".
Good on ya, Pat.
G'night folks.
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:26:54pm |
re: #210 musicman
Would that also include Frank's boyfriend in the article?
Nope. It was before that became news....
Hope all is well with you and yours!
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:26:56pm |
re: #172 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Profs like him are why I hestiate to encourage my kids toward college.
Some colleges are still good. While many companies give huge sums to fund all these crazy educational experiments, many hire from colleges that have traditional education and values—would you hire those wackos?
The problem is finding a school with traditional values. Speaking with current and recently graduated students is a good way to discover what was taught. Telling somewhat non-PC jokes and seeing the response is a good way to tell I've found.
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brickthruplateglasswindow Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:27:06pm |
re: #189 CyanSnowHawk
They might be Celtic. I think "Dahsudhu Hdusahfd" is the Celt spelling of David Hasselhoff, and "Uadhshgu Hduadh" is Andy Dick.
Dahsudhu Hdusahfd! I KNOW that guy! Came from old money. Talked with a lisp, smelled funny, fancied himself a ladies man but never scored. Figures, he'd be giving $$ to the One. IIRC, his great grandfather Qwerty Dvorak invented something big...but for the life of me, I can't remember what it was.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:27:14pm |
re: #214 zombie
Too bad about Constitution and all that.
Well, at least it keeps Fidel from running.
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kirkoff Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:27:23pm |
re: #200 CyanSnowHawk
How about the O-Bomber?
Obamer may wish to celebrate diversity.
I plan to confine my celebration to infidelity.
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stuiec Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:27:28pm |
re: #161 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Scary, ain't it?
Yet I woudn't trade our justice system for anything in the world. For every bastard who gets off on the technicallities, there are hundres, thousands of convicted criminals in the pokey.
As Alouette points out at #157 above, the Fruit of the Poisoned Tree doctrine is not really a healthy way to punish police or prosecutorial misconduct. It's hard to see how it's right to punish an official by letting a criminal loose to prey on society.
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Typicalwhitey Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:28:04pm |
re: #208 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I love how a shithead like Ayers can scream about living in a fascist police state for decades, where if the government was actually even remotely what he suggested it is, he would have had been dumped in a ditch with his skull cracked open 30 years ago.
No kidding!
On a better note McCain within 3 in the latest CBS poll
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Tamron Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:28:06pm |
re: #198 guzziguy
"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an
enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
The Lone Ranger and Tonto are in a tight spot. Lone Ranger says, "Tonto! There are Indians to the right of us, Indians to the left of us, Indians in front of us, and Indians behind us! What are we going to DO?"
Tonto: "Uhhhh. What you mean, 'WE', white man?
.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:28:18pm |
re: #212 Sharmuta
The irony is lost on them.
Or they are so vicious they see the irony all too clearly.
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:28:45pm |
re: #191 buzzsawmonkey
To distinguish him from the Unibomber, I hereby dub Bill Ayers the Diversibomber.
But it's Unabomber' not "Unibomber."
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x-wing Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:28:49pm |
re: #194 loppyd
One week and one day later and still Jeff Jacoby's devastating column on Barney Frank's pivotal role in the mortgage meltdown is the #1 most emailed story on boston.com!
MOST E-MAILED
1. Frank's fingerprints are all over the financial fiasco
And his mouth prints are all over something else. ;>}
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:29:03pm |
re: #214 zombie
Too bad about Constitution and all that.
Zombie, get with the program, the Constitution is a living document constantly evolving and flexibly responding to new conditions.
/do I need to?
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:29:17pm |
re: #224 Archimedes
Or they are so vicious they see the irony all too clearly.
Honestly, I think it's ignorance- they don't really know what fascism is.
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zombie Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:29:27pm |
You know what would be really, really interesting?
Obama calls a national press conference, announces he's dropping Biden from the ticket, and replacing him with...Sarah Palin, whether she like it or not. Then, both candidates would be running with the same VP, essentially neutralizing her influence.
Obama-Palin '08! Can you imagine how insurmountable that would be? Even I would have to pause for moment in the voting booth over that one.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:29:28pm |
re: #227 x-wing
And his mouth prints are all over something else. ;>}
Ewwwww. I am trying to eat dinner, ya know!
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:29:52pm |
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:30:18pm |
re: #216 loppyd
Nope. It was before that became news....
Hope all is well with you and yours!
I am currently recovering from my second knee surgery in the last 5 month's. Doing nothing, sitting in my recliner for the last 5 days is about to drive me nuts. Being on LGF though has helped to keep my sanity.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:30:25pm |
re: #229 Sharmuta
Honestly, I think it's ignorance- they don't really know what fascism is.
Ayers strikes me as out right evil.
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Tamron Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:30:37pm |
Say, check out this SUZUKI HAYABUSA accelerating to 220 MPH in close to 20 seconds.
That'll put hair on your chest.
.
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:30:44pm |
re: #159 lifeofthemind
Ayers sure as hell was a terrorist. The argument that he did not personally pull the pin on a grenade and toss it is rediculous. Arafat only participated in one operation that I know of. The head of Hizbullah in Lebanon may have never fired a shot for all I know. If you lead, organize, train and direct an organization that commits acts of terror then you are a terrorist.
How many people did Charles Manson kill?
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:30:47pm |
re: #207 itellu3times
Yah. If it's carefully done, it might not be too violently unfair, just a stiffer rate cap and rescheduling and endless negative amortization. But I mean, how about me, I didn't even take a mortgage, can't somebody just send me my share of the $700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 in cash?
How much of your house are you willing to put up for it? I think my take on the bailout now is that the Gov't is just upside down in the principal/asset ratio.
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:31:10pm |
re: #235 buzzsawmonkey
Sounds too much like something the jolly swagman would camp beside.
You'll come a waltzing Obama with me.
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experiencedtraveller Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:31:27pm |
re: #218 brickthruplateglasswindow
Qwerty Dvorak inherited everything from his uncle Joe Dvorak who was the nephew of Anton Dvorak who wrote a wonderful symphony.
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:31:42pm |
re: #196 unrealizedviewpoint
You nailed it. Is that a new avatar or am I thinking of another mouse?
Hey..hey! There's only one mouse here. lol!
Seriously, I changed the avatar a while ago. Thinking of changing it again. Have another fun one to use.
As for continued musings on lefties, I also think they truly believe that the gummint's role is to take money away from the productive and spread it around to the non-productive. At heart, liberals feel guilty about the lot of others as though it's everybody else's fault, instead of individual choices and decisions. They don't hold themselves accountable for anything, so why should they hold anyone else accountable? Except the wealthy. 'Cause it's easier to take their money and not feel guilty.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:31:46pm |
re: #230 zombie
I think the zombies been drinkin' today.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:31:55pm |
re: #230 zombie
You know what would be really, really interesting?
Obama calls a national press conference, announces he's dropping Biden from the ticket, and replacing him with...Sarah Palin, whether she like it or not. Then, both candidates would be running with the same VP, essentially neutralizing her influence.
Obama-Palin '08! Can you imagine how insurmountable that would be? Even I would have to pause for moment in the voting booth over that one.
Palin has lunch with Hillary and Obama never gets a second of sleep until he is carried away in a straight jacket.
/full employment for food tasters
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:32:03pm |
re: #234 musicman
I am currently recovering from my second knee surgery in the last 5 month's. Doing nothing, sitting in my recliner for the last 5 days is about to drive me nuts. Being on LGF though has helped to keep my sanity.
I'm really sorry to hear that.
I hope you're back on your feet soon!
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:32:20pm |
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sparrowlake Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:32:26pm |
re: #200 CyanSnowHawk
How about the O-Bomber?
Perfect - and it highlights his new and improved Irish name too: Barry O'Bomber
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:32:44pm |
re: #244 unrealizedviewpoint
I think the zombies been drinkin' today.
Maybe he/she spent too much time on the marajuwhanna thread earlier
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:33:06pm |
re: #208 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I love how a shithead like Ayers can scream about living in a fascist police state for decades, where if the government was actually even remotely what he suggested it is, he would have had been dumped in a ditch with his skull cracked open 30 years ago.
This is my standard response to Truthers, conspiracists, people who think we never went to the Moon, and/or anyone else who is convinced that anyone to the right of Che' Guevara is part of a vast, all-powerful conspiracy that they are opposed to;
If the Conspiracy is so all-powerful, why are you still alive?
After all, people die in "undetermined circumstances" in this country every day. To a truly powerful "conspiracy", one or two more wouldn't amount to a problem.
Some such riposte that "I'm well enough known that if I disappeared, there would be trouble."
It seems to be a common feature of their paranoid/grandiose disorder that they believe themselves to be far more important than any objective assessment would support.
cheers
eon
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:33:15pm |
I liked it when Palin called him Obiden in the debate, she should keep doing that.
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:33:21pm |
Off to watch the Red Sox.
Have a good night, Lizard Nation!
GO SOX!
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Tamron Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:33:33pm |
re: #208 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I love how a shithead like Ayers can scream about living in a fascist police state for decades, where if the government was actually even remotely what he suggested it is, he would have had been dumped in a ditch with his skull cracked open 30 years ago.
Ya just can't reason with a junkyard dog. Why try?
.
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yochanan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:34:30pm |
the first mayor daley is rolling in his grave for sure. he was crupt for sure but he was very ANTI COMMUNIST.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:34:41pm |
Damn, but I make a great pork roast!
A little oil in a frying pan, seasoned with Tony Cacheries....brown all sides of the roast then drop the sucker into a crock pot. Pour two cans for pineapple bits with the juice over the roast and add 1/4 cup of Worcestershire sauce and cook all day long.....
Yummy
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USCMSNE Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:34:46pm |
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:35:26pm |
re: #237 Tamron
Say, check out this SUZUKI HAYABUSA accelerating to 220 MPH in close to 20 seconds.
That'll put hair on your chest.
.
Right up until you hit the pavement and scrap it all off.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:35:29pm |
re: #211 zombie
Condell-Palin '08!
That would be more like a cage match than a ticket, even if it were possible for Condell to run for the office.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:35:32pm |
re: #208 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I love how a shithead like Ayers can scream about living in a fascist police state for decades, where if the government was actually even remotely what he suggested it is, he would have had been dumped in a ditch with his skull cracked open 30 years ago.
A true fascist state would have "disappeared" him in 1969.
/but ya can't have everything
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:35:48pm |
re: #251 eon
I take it you've read Maddox's take on conspiracies?
Unlike others who debunk 9/11 conspiracy theories, or "cons" for short, I'm not going to bother with going through intricate point-by-point rebuttals, or pointing out the hundreds of factual inaccuracies and outright lies in this "documentary," because I don't need to. In fact, I can debunk the entire story with one simple observation:
The fact that this man is alive...
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:35:52pm |
Interesting
Your text to link...Feds ask to strike Rezco's October Sentencing
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:36:05pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
Your call.
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x-wing Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:36:06pm |
re: #231 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Ewwwww. I am trying to eat dinner, ya know!
Sorry,it is a hard subject to swallow. ;>}
/O.K. I'll stop
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OldLineTexan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:36:25pm |
re: #257 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Damn, but I make a great pork roast!
A little oil in a frying pan, seasoned with Tony Cacheries....brown all sides of the roast then drop the sucker into a crock pot. Pour two cans for pineapple bits with the juice over the roast and add 1/4 cup of Worcestershire sauce and cook all day long.....
Yummy
And me already married...sniff...sob...stomach rumble
/
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:36:25pm |
re: #223 Tamron
The Lone Ranger and Tonto are in a tight spot. Lone Ranger says, "Tonto! There are Indians to the right of us, Indians to the left of us, Indians in front of us, and Indians behind us! What are we going to DO?"
Tonto: "Uhhhh. What you mean, 'WE', white man?
.
Don't think of it as being surrounded. Think of it as us having the widest possible target selection.-unnamed U.S.M.C. Lt. Colonel, Hue, 1968
cheers
eon
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MacGiolaPhadraig Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:36:26pm |
"We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded."
Lt. Richard Winters
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Fat Jolly Penguin Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:36:40pm |
re: #257 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Damn, but I make a great pork roast!
A little oil in a frying pan, seasoned with Tony Cacheries....brown all sides of the roast then drop the sucker into a crock pot. Pour two cans for pineapple bits with the juice over the roast and add 1/4 cup of Worcestershire sauce and cook all day long.....
Yummy
Sounds great! Send it to Reine for the cookbook!
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mama winger Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:36:57pm |
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:37:06pm |
re: #259 CyanSnowHawk
Right up until you hit the pavement and scrap it all off.
Yeah, ask Ben Roethlisberger. He bounced off the hood of a car (sans helmet) after he exited his Hayabusa in 2006. Ouch!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:37:09pm |
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:37:14pm |
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:37:22pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
Turn about is fair play. He just gave it to every tax payer in the hinder.
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guzziguy Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:37:23pm |
re: #230 zombie
You know what would be really, really interesting?
Obama calls a national press conference, announces he's dropping Biden from the ticket, and replacing him with...Sarah Palin, whether she like it or not. Then, both candidates would be running with the same VP, essentially neutralizing her influence.
Obama-Palin '08! Can you imagine how insurmountable that would be? Even I would have to pause for moment in the voting booth over that one.
Zombie, please. I've read your stuff for months, maybe years. I don't for a minute believe you could pull the lever for Obama under any circumstance.
Sarah would make bHo a more attractive candidate though. A bit like lipstick on a ......
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loppyd Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:37:23pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
Before I go - let me just apologize once again for this tool.
Sometimes being from MA is too much to bear.
LOL
Seriously considering that move to either SC or NC....
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:37:41pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
Don't excite him like that.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:38:06pm |
re: #266 OldLineTexan
And me already married...sniff...sob...stomach rumble
/
You and the bride are welcome over any time, ya know.
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nyc redneck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:38:13pm |
re: #257 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Damn, but I make a great pork roast!
A little oil in a frying pan, seasoned with Tony Cacheries....brown all sides of the roast then drop the sucker into a crock pot. Pour two cans for pineapple bits with the juice over the roast and add 1/4 cup of Worcestershire sauce and cook all day long.....
Yummy
i'll try it, thanks.
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:38:28pm |
What American colonel killed the greatest number of his fellow Americans?
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unclassifiable Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:38:37pm |
re: #214 zombie
Maybe as Secretary of State. We've had a few "can't be president because of residence" in that position.
I'd love to see that confirmation hearing.
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:38:59pm |
re: #273 CyanSnowHawk
Mouse you say? Hmm, I hunger.
I have super powers and can evade hawks at the speed of light.
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:10pm |
re: #280 WF Bach
What American colonel killed the greatest number of his fellow Americans?
Sanders. That chicken just chokes up the arteries.
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experiencedtraveller Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:18pm |
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yochanan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:20pm |
THE CHILEAN OR ARGENTINE JUNTA would have fed ayers to the fishes
and i would not have shed any tears for him.
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David IV of Georgia Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:34pm |
re: #257 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Damn, but I make a great pork roast!
A little oil in a frying pan, seasoned with Tony Cacheries....brown all sides of the roast then drop the sucker into a crock pot. Pour two cans for pineapple bits with the juice over the roast and add 1/4 cup of Worcestershire sauce and cook all day long.....
Yummy
That's food pr0n.
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:36pm |
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Oldasdirt Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:51pm |
re: #199 J.S.
And then, the funding! The f-0-0K-g domestic terrorists are funding the Palestinian terrorists. Pipes alleges a financial connection (to the tune of $70,000) funneled to Khalidi...Isn't anyone investigating this? And, the connections between Ayers and Khalidi go back to when the PLO was a designated terrorist organization.
I am lost for words.Terrorist teaching our children,murderers out of jail killing cops,child molesters free to walk the streets and stalk our children.
This is not the America i know.I vote to stop this crap,but it's like there are 3 people voting against me when i do.One voter has been dead 20 years,another is a 13 year old with a SS card,and the other is an idiot.
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:51pm |
re: #262 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Actually, I'd never heard of it until now. Thanks for the link!
cheers
eon
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:39:55pm |
re: #280 WF Bach
What American colonel killed the greatest number of his fellow Americans?
Colonel Sanders, stuff is lethal
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:40:11pm |
re: #279 nyc redneck
i'll try it, thanks.
It's teh bomb....can ya get Tony C's in NYC? If not, I'll be happy to send you some.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:40:23pm |
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:40:28pm |
re: #243 rightymouse
Hey..hey! There's only one mouse here. lol!
Seriously, I changed the avatar a while ago. Thinking of changing it again. Have another fun one to use.
As for continued musings on lefties, I also think they truly believe that the gummint's role is to take money away from the productive and spread it around to the non-productive. At heart, liberals feel guilty about the lot of others as though it's everybody else's fault, instead of individual choices and decisions. They don't hold themselves accountable for anything, so why should they hold anyone else accountable? Except the wealthy. 'Cause it's easier to take their money and not feel guilty.
I'm not here all that much anymore. I came back for the election. I just noticed an avatar appeared different. I like your musings. Ayn Rand would be proud.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:40:58pm |
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Osama Bin Porkchop Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:41:16pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
What a sniveling, worthless POS he is....
I do wonder, how many cards are in a deck of race cards? 57? To play the race card on a problem he is responsible for is the height of chutzpah......
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:41:20pm |
re: #283 rightymouse
I have super powers and can evade hawks at the speed of light.
That must be why the talons only grabbed air. Curses!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:41:50pm |
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Bobblehead Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:41:53pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
That POS! The man is beyond contemptible.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:42:15pm |
re: #278 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
You and the bride are welcome over any time, ya know.
You're a priceless jewel. The Mrs. is not in any shape for socializing.
And I have not forgotten I owe you lunch. ;)
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nyc redneck Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:42:17pm |
re: #292 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
i should be able to get it here. thank you so much for offering, tho.
:D
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MacGiolaPhadraig Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:42:18pm |
re: #280 WF Bach
Gota be Civil War. Or maybe Custer?
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:42:39pm |
re: #291 lifeofthemind
Colonel Sanders, stuff is lethal
I need fresher material, you guys know all my punchlines :(
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:43:17pm |
re: #303 MacGiolaPhadraig
Gota be Civil War. Or maybe Custer?
Colonel Sanders. Fried chicken is lethal.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:43:22pm |
re: #301 OldLineTexan
You're a priceless jewel. The Mrs. is not in any shape for socializing.
And I have not forgotten I owe you lunch. ;)
Sorry to hear it, is there anything I can do for you guys?
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OldLineTexan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:43:34pm |
re: #286 yochanan
THE CHILEAN OR ARGENTINE JUNTA would have fed ayers to the fishes
and i would not have shed any tears for him.
.......don't cry for Bill, Ar-zhen-teeee-naaaaah...
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:44:10pm |
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BignJames Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:44:23pm |
re: #276 loppyd
C'mon down, you'll feel right at home! lotsa yankees already hereL
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:44:25pm |
re: #294 unrealizedviewpoint
I'm not here all that much anymore. I came back for the election. I just noticed an avatar appeared different. I like your musings. Ayn Rand would be proud.
I did read 'Atlas Shrugged' but had a hard time with it because she took forever to get to the point in some of the monologues and I didn't care for the personalities of some of the characters.
But I do understand the mentality of the left. Was a Democrat until 9-11. Not a moonbat, mind you, but enough of a Dem to understand the way they think. I still have really loopy moonbats in my family.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:44:54pm |
re: #299 Bobblehead
That POS! The man is beyond contemptible.
Every time I hear him speak, I think he is 'despicable' for some reason.
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MacGiolaPhadraig Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:45:13pm |
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USCMSNE Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:45:24pm |
re: #276 loppyd
Before I go - let me just apologize once again for this tool.
Sometimes being from MA is too much to bear.
LOL
Seriously considering that move to either SC or NC....
I was raised in the midwest. Joined the Navy and was stationed in FL, GA, and SC. When I got out, with my choice to move anywhere as a "fresh start" where did I go? AL with the Carolinas as a close second. No desire to move north or west, ever. No offense to all-ya'll who are geographically challenged, someone has to live in CA et al and take the fight to the enemy in their homelands.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:45:33pm |
re: #305 WF Bach
Colonel Sanders. Fried chicken is lethal.
Haven't been there in 10 years. Since they started serving midget chickens.
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experiencedtraveller Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:45:37pm |
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:45:39pm |
re: #298 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
But I love dipping his biscuits in the gravy!
They don't have that in Canada, you know. Not even sure if they have it in northern US markets.
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:45:48pm |
re: #308 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I love cold original recipe.....
As I tell my coworkers, the day they make a food which guarantees I'll live forever, I'm there. Until then, deliciousness is the primary factor to my diet.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:45:57pm |
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:46:29pm |
re: #127 arethusa
As an academic, I have to say, the sixties have completely corrupted a great many good minds among my older colleagues - whether it was drugs, or Vietnam, or the mistaken idea that they were creating Utopia, these people are just not sane on the subject.
In their minds, they have created a warped version of Utopia. Their parents supported them up through college, and now the taxpayers and students' tuition support them. They never had to get out and produce, choosing instead to remain in a suspended state of development on college campuses around the country, working for the Social Studies Industry. The communist template is a perfect fit for them. Youth was fun, but thank God I retained enough sense, and got my reality check in time to escape that fate, and become a somewhat 'regular' person.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:46:43pm |
re: #306 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Sorry to hear it, is there anything I can do for you guys?
No, not unless you have a magic wand. It's OK, all is quiet on the Western Front at the moment.
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sparrowlake Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:46:47pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
Neither the Good or the Bad - rather, it would be THE UGLY.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:46:54pm |
re: #258 USCMSNE
OT: Frank says GOP housing attacks racially motivated
/If I said I hope he takes it in the ass this election cycle, is that good or bad?
I'm sickandfuckingtired of being called a racist.
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capitalist piglet Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:47:29pm |
re: #166 musicman
I love a good object lesson! Tomorrow night I wish McCain would wave around the 9/11/2001 edition of the NYT's and then ask Obama how old was he when this was published? And just exactly what happened that same day?
Oh, now that is good.
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:47:35pm |
re: #314 unrealizedviewpoint
Haven't been there in 10 years. Since they started serving midget chickens.
Sanders dissociated himself from the franchise product they were selling during his later years after he sold out. It would have been nice to try the real original stuff he was selling in KY and OH.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:48:01pm |
re: #316 WF Bach
They don't have that in Canada, you know. Not even sure if they have it in northern US markets.
OMG, how do you manage? They have, at least in the south, the old fashioned biscuits and this lovely brown gravy....loaded with transfats and other bad things I'm sure, but it tastes so good!
I make a meal out of just the biscuits and gravy...I craved this with the first baby.
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:48:06pm |
re: #310 rightymouse
I did read 'Atlas Shrugged' but had a hard time with it because she took forever to get to the point in some of the monologues and I didn't care for the personalities of some of the characters.
But I do understand the mentality of the left. Was a Democrat until 9-11. Not a moonbat, mind you, but enough of a Dem to understand the way they think. I still have really loopy moonbats in my family.
I recently picked up Atlas Shrugged on CD. It's easier when someone else does the work. :)
my 3000 post
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jemima Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:48:10pm |
Did someone point out Barry's mentor, Frank Davis Marshall, was a pedophile?
I loved the quote from Jeremiah Wright that Bill Clinton (?) was riding dirty?
So what is it with his friends and sex?
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:48:39pm |
re: #310 rightymouse
I did read 'Atlas Shrugged' but had a hard time with it because she took forever to get to the point in some of the monologues and I didn't care for the personalities of some of the characters.
But I do understand the mentality of the left. Was a Democrat until 9-11. Not a moonbat, mind you, but enough of a Dem to understand the way they think. I still have really loopy moonbats in my family.
Ever try reading the "Sword of Truth" series? Ayn Rand meets Lord of the Rings. Nothing quiet like a full infantry charge thru a bunch of empty-headed "peace at all costs" human shields.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:48:40pm |
re: #322 MandyManners
I'm sickandfuckingtired of being called a racist.
Frank is obviously guilty, he's pulled out that big epithet.
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:48:46pm |
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OldLineTexan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:49:21pm |
re: #314 unrealizedviewpoint
Haven't been there in 10 years. Since they started serving midget chickens.
I love that pigeon from Popeye's.
/not really
Fried chicken is good for the soul. Don't eat it every day, or your soul will be so good it'll up and go home. ;)
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:49:39pm |
re: #324 WF Bach
You all ever hear any of the Col. Sanders commercial out-takes and bloopers?
Frikkin' hysterical funny. I got 'em somewhere.
Also the Orson Welles ones from the frozen seafood products.
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Outrider Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:49:49pm |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
This is in a spinoff link, but deserves to be seen on the main threads: a Huffpo "refutation of 30 lies about Obama and Ayers."
The piece includes this blatant howler, among many others:
How about Bill's girlfriend Diana Oughton, and two others, who were working on an antipersonnel bomb of Bill's own design?
LIE: "Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist."
TRUTH: Bill Ayers is not, and apparently never was, a terrorist. The conventional definition of a terrorist is someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes. As Factcheck.org noted, In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground.
Using that rational; their anger at President Bush and referring to him and VP Cheney as criminals come from what source?
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:50:05pm |
re: #317 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
As I tell my coworkers, the day they make a food which guarantees I'll live forever, I'm there. Until then, deliciousness is the primary factor to my diet.
Dittos....my BF, a ret Marine, eats to live. I eat for pleasure. He thinks it's a hoot and doesn't get it at all.
Of course, he ate the raw heart of a chicken he ripped open for his troops as an example...so I can see where he gets his "I eat for sustenance" thing.
Still, he love to watch, and listen, to me eat a really good desert.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:50:36pm |
re: #316 WF Bach
They don't have that in Canada, you know. Not even sure if they have it in northern US markets.
I can only assume good maps show these areas as unknown, dangerous, black spots...
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:50:44pm |
re: #320 OldLineTexan
No, not unless you have a magic wand. It's OK, all is quiet on the Western Front at the moment.
Well, don't hesitate to call me if you need anything. Love ya!
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:50:50pm |
re: #328 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Ever try reading the "Sword of Truth" series? Ayn Rand meets Lord of the Rings. Nothing quiet like a full infantry charge thru a bunch of empty-headed "peace at all costs" human shields.
They are making it into a television series. Check out the trailer here: [Link: www.terrygoodkind.net...]
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Racer X Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:50:51pm |
re: #322 MandyManners
When someone calls you a racist, return the favor and call them a pedophile. Neither accusation holds water without facts. Make them explain their position.
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rightymouse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:50:54pm |
re: #326 unrealizedviewpoint
I recently picked up Atlas Shrugged on CD. It's easier when someone else does the work. :)
my 3000 post
Congrats on the 3000!
You'll see what I mean with what seems like endless monologues.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:51:28pm |
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lifeofthemind Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:53:21pm |
re: #304 WF Bach
I need fresher material, you guys know all my punchlines :(
Everybody wants to get into the act.
The most dangerous member in the armed forces is the Ensign who says "Gee, I have an idea."
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USCMSNE Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:53:33pm |
re: #321 sparrowlake
Neither the Good or the Bad - rather, it would be THE UGLY.
That's not fair, to reference Sergio Leone with Barney Frank. Sergio was never enlightened enough to be compared to the honorable Mr. Franks. You should apologize immediately and say ten Hail Michelles as penance.
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:53:35pm |
re: #310 rightymouse
I did read 'Atlas Shrugged' but had a hard time with it because she took forever to get to the point in some of the monologues and I didn't care for the personalities of some of the characters.
But I do understand the mentality of the left. Was a Democrat until 9-11. Not a moonbat, mind you, but enough of a Dem to understand the way they think. I still have really loopy moonbats in my family.
I came from a Democrat family, too. 1970s era, hardcore "social reformer" types, union organizers, very anti-war, thought Apollo was a waste of money ("We have things we need to do down heeerre"), hated Nixon, thought JFK was the Second Coming (sure he was killed by the CIA), etc.
When I saw Hueys being pushed off the decks of U.S. carriers and others being ditched next to them with the pilots jumping clear to escape the North Vietnamese Army when Saigon fell, and knew that there were celebrations going on in certain Democratic offices in D.C., I became a Republican. A year before I was old enough to register and vote.
When asked, I said, "I make it a policy not to get in bed with anybody more deranged than I am."
/relations have never forgiven me to this day. Tough s**t.
cheers
eon
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:54:23pm |
re: #338 Archimedes
They are making it into a television series. Check out the trailer here: [Link: www.terrygoodkind.net...]
Sweet. I just hope they dont manage to weed out the message.
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Florida Lady Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:55:01pm |
re: #243 rightymouse
Another stupid moment here . . . How do I upload an avatar?
/technologically challenged, but learning a lot here at LGF!
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doriangrey Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:55:23pm |
re: #221 stuiec
As Alouette points out at #157 above, the Fruit of the Poisoned Tree doctrine is not really a healthy way to punish police or prosecutorial misconduct. It's hard to see how it's right to punish an official by letting a criminal loose to prey on society.
It's there to prevent judicial misconduct. Laws are only good in a free society IF they apply equally to everyone. Cops, district attorneys and judges are humans, just like criminals. They are subject to the exact same temptations as criminals are. There is no greater form of despotism then a legal system where it's officers are free to commit any crime in the pursuit of their version of justice.
The problem is that often what constitutes "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" technically isn't a criminal action. It's a procedural issue that may or may not lead to a jury reaching an incorrect conclusion. By it's very nature "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" is prejudicial information.
Information of a factual nature that may not actually have any bearing on the criminal matter being adjudicated. Basically it is what is known as a "Pro emptor hoc" logic fallacy. Because of this, therefore this.
Example: subject (A) was arrested and convicted in 1984 for armed robbery. A armed robbery occurred in 2008 and subject (A) was arrested as a subject of interest in this robbery. By entering the evidence the jury becomes prejudiced against subject (A) regardless of whether there is actually sufficient evidence in the current case to actually link him to the case.
When considering the full context of this issue one must keep in mind the framers ideological stance on jurisprudence. Having suffered under the oppressive rule of tyrants the founding fathers considered it a greater harm to justice that an innocent individual be wrongfully convicted of any criminal charge than it was for a guilty individual to be set free.
Hence the legal procedure know as "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree". It's purpose and intention is to place limitations on the tactics that could be applied by officers of the judicial system that might otherwise result in a miscarriage of justice.
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Colin Nelson Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:55:34pm |
Pat Condell = Bravo Zulu
"Rule Britannia!
Britannia rules the waves.
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves."
Then repeat 'till all the beer is gone.
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musicman Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:56:13pm |
Frank's racist comment is nothing more than, "Hey, look over there...a distraction."
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Outrider Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:57:04pm |
re: #268 MacGiolaPhadraig
"We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded."
Lt. Richard Winters
HUAH!. Airborne!
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eon Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:57:09pm |
re: #338 Archimedes
They are making it into a television series. Check out the trailer here: [Link: www.terrygoodkind.net...]
I love that series. I have most of them.
If they do the TV series right, I may go back to being a boob-tube boob.
/to a certain extent......
cheers
eon
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SummerSong Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:58:11pm |
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unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:59:03pm |
re: #340 rightymouse
Congrats on the 3000!
You'll see what I mean with what seems like endless monologues.
I'm right up to the end almost (two discs to go). I'm thoroughly enjoying it much more then the read years ago.
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doriangrey Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:59:11pm |
Damn it... This thread is moving to fast for me....
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 5:59:44pm |
re: #332 rawmuse
You all ever hear any of the Col. Sanders commercial out-takes and bloopers?
Frikkin' hysterical funny. I got 'em somewhere.Also the Orson Welles ones from the frozen seafood products.
Would they be on YouTube?
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lummox Mon, Oct 6, 2008 6:00:49pm |
Barney Frank collapses in his office and is rushed to the hospital. Several hours later, after coming to, he inquires...
"What happened? Am I going to be OK?
"Nothing to worry about." replies the doctor. " It's just exhaustion from trying to cover up your part in the scandal. We'll have you back on your knees in a day or two".
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WF Bach Mon, Oct 6, 2008 6:01:21pm |
re: #336 OldLineTexan
I can only assume good maps show these areas as unknown, dangerous, black spots...
LOL!
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 6, 2008 6:02:38pm |
re: #356 WF Bach
Would they be on YouTube?
I'll check. If not, I'll digitize them and upload them. One of these days...
Some may not be appropriate due to some rough (but funny) language.
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Wishing Mon, Oct 6, 2008 6:20:45pm |
re: #290 eon
Actually, I'd never heard of it until now. Thanks for the link!
cheers
eon
lol as i scrolled down the article and came to the picture I thought it was a young Bill Clinton lolol
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Tamron Mon, Oct 6, 2008 6:21:32pm |
re: #110 Sharmuta
First of all- fathers and mosques have a lot to do with making sure young men and boys are taught this.
Second- this is taught to girls and young women through family conditioning. Children see their mothers being beaten for daring to rebel, and what do you think is being learned by the kids watching this? Both the boys and the girls?
The hate starts when they're still in the cradle:
CUTE 3-YEAR-OLD GIRL YEARNS TO KILL INFIDELS
11-YEAR-OLD MUSLIM GIRL WANTS TO BECOME A SHAHID (Suicide Bomber)
MUSLIM MOTHER CELEBRATES HER SON'S SUICIDE MISSION.
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 6, 2008 7:03:29pm |
Look for his videos on LiveLeak, they tend to stick around longer. And folks, the Saudis are foreign, not crazy. There is a difference.
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Scion9 Mon, Oct 6, 2008 7:25:05pm |
re: #44 unrealizedviewpoint
It creeps me out, but I'm prejudiced. One need ask an agnostic or atheist if it creeps them out.
I'm an atheist, and it's creepy.
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talon_262 Mon, Oct 6, 2008 7:30:21pm |
Damn, Pat was on fire with this one...his atheism aside, I think I have a mancrush on him hearing him speak of the need to get and keep Islam out of government!
Go, Pat, go!
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Scion9 Mon, Oct 6, 2008 7:36:39pm |
re: #361 Tamron
ILLITERACY is their biggest drawback and that is their absolute downfall,
I'm not quite sure I agree with that one. There is a massive number of 'True Believer' Muslims, Qu'ranic literalists, that don't actually know what the Qu'ran says. Literacy would likely just make them more radical, not less.
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Age Of Freedom Mon, Oct 6, 2008 8:31:36pm |
Flawless video, except for me, right around the 2:01 minute, is where I first time ever disagree with Pat Condell.
"A twisted maligned mutation of Islam"; I hope he realizes that Wahabism is a mere channel of Islam.
I think Pat is extremely ambitious about the solution with Islam. I highly doubt Islam can reform itself into a mere spiritual belief system, although I wouldn't mind settling on that account.
Good fucking luck changing the minds of a long time violent culture.
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rboa Mon, Oct 6, 2008 10:08:34pm |
Is Pat aware of how much we enjoy and love him at LGF?
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uptight Mon, Oct 6, 2008 11:16:04pm |
For Islam to stand a chance of peaceful reform, it would need to ditch its violent influnces. These are the Koran, the Haddith, the Prophet and the Sunnah (or at least the clergy).
Islam without its clergy, prophet, haddith & koran is rather like the Beatles without John, Paul, George & Ringo - yet there are people who practice Islam and aren't deranged or violent. I guess they must be ignoring a lot.
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uptight Mon, Oct 6, 2008 11:36:02pm |
re: #36 Sharmuta
Actually- I hope that more Brits decide to stay and fight for their own country instead of retreating and leaving it to the islamists. Pat is doing his part to rally his countrymen, and I sure hope more Westerners from all across Europe and here in America too stand up and fight the good fight like Pat's doing.
The Conservative Party are 20% ahead in opinion polls.
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USBeast Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:21:50am |
re: #373 uptight
The Conservative Party are 20% ahead in opinion polls.
Fine, but will they be able to overcome the lunatic propaganda that is part and parcel with British bureaucracy and EU media? Will the Home Office suddenly do a 180 and start enforcing British law? Is Britain up to dealing with the wailing, gnashing of teeth and almost certain blood in the streets that will (not may) come from telling Islam in Britain to sit down and shut up?
I'm not happy about it, but there is no way that dealing with Islam will not get seriously ugly.
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rorschach Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:36:58am |
Pat, I disagree with the saudi mullah.
I think saudi women in burqas should have to cover both eyes.
They'll be like thousands of Cousin Its all banging into each other.
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RickZ Tue, Oct 7, 2008 2:37:39am |
The Wahhabi Doctrine is 'a sick, twisted mutation of islam'? Sorry, Pat, but you're way off base there. Until this 'islam is a peaceful religion' politically correct nonsense is put down for good, we are screwed as islam is never a peaceful religion, especially not when it gets control in a society.
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Sceptic Tank Tue, Oct 7, 2008 5:54:52am |
Great pick by Charles. Pat understands islam's strength is money.
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geoffputerbaugh Tue, Oct 7, 2008 6:24:44am |
Some problems with this "news" about Sharia law in Britain. I am posting this message because I just got savaged by some Brits for linking to the LGF posting on the subject. Aside from the usual stupid cries of "fascist," some really good points were brought up.
First, these "sharia courts" are strictly courts of arbitration. They don't even get close to criminal law, but only deal with civil cases, where ALL PARTIES AGREE TO BINDING ARBITRATION.
Second, we do this in the United States all the time. On top of that, a similar set of Jewish arbitration courts has been operating in England for over a century.
So: no, the English are not chopping off the hands of thieves in the Tower of London.
I myself would not have made this decision, since I have a long-standing dislike of the Saudis and their nonsensical claims to "aristocracy" based on nothing but bring born over a bunch of oil. This "dislike" (ahem) only increased after 9/11. And I think that Pat is right in warning that this may well be the first step down the slippery slope.
But -- for the moment -- there is nothing in these Sharia courts which goes against long-standing English tradition.
This posting is mostly for Charles. I think you need to update your original posting.
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hellosnackbar Tue, Oct 7, 2008 9:18:20am |
Pat Condell the man who puts the "pat" in patriot.
I've yet to see an interview with this man on any mainstream television; despite his fame.(What can they be afraid of?)
Maybe our great helmsman Charles might offer him a video interview for the
entertainment of all the contributors(and lurkers) at this great site.
I don't know his E-mail address but his complete anthology is available @
[Link: www.richarddawkins.net;...] so I guess they'll know.
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Joel Tue, Oct 7, 2008 10:21:27am |
Wow this guy is fantastic. He gives me hope that not everyone in Britain is a Nancy boy.
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justadot Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:32:34am |
re: #378 geoffputerbaugh
I am posting this message because I just got savaged by some Brits for linking to the LGF posting on the subject.
If that wasn't enough, try linking to this post from Charles from Sept. 14. Or from the cited Times article.
Over the last months, I keep reading statements like the one you mentioned:
They don't even get close to criminal law, but only deal with civil cases, where ALL PARTIES AGREE TO BINDING ARBITRATION.
I don't think that's what Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi has in mind (emphasis mine):
It has also emerged that tribunal courts have settled six cases of domestic violence between married couples, working in tandem with the police investigations.Siddiqi said he expected the courts to handle a greater number of “smaller” criminal cases in coming years as more Muslim clients approach them. “All we are doing is regulating community affairs in these cases,” said Siddiqi, chairman of the governing council of the tribunal.
Who's in charge here?
This keeps creeping into other areas of the law, and that should worry them:
Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”Douglas Murray, the director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, said: “I think it’s appalling. I don’t think arbitration that is done by sharia should ever be endorsed or enforced by the British state.”
Now I have no knowledge if any of these women were coerced into having the tribunal courts handle their domestic violence cases, but given the nature of Islamic attitudes toward women, there should be considerable room for doubt.
You may be well aware of this. If the people you're posting to can shrug all this off, then it's not you that has the problem.
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