Obama seems to never have been aware of anyone's past with whom he associates.
That makes me unaware of why he's qualified to run for anything beyond city councilman.

It's bizarre that the Obama campaign's defense of their guy is that he's shockingly ignorant.

/And if he was ignorant, do we want a President who's that clueless?

re: #2 Occasional Reader

It's bizarre that the Obama campaign's defense of their guy is that he's shockingly ignorant.

Well if you can get away with it?

re: #1 jwb7605

Obama seems to never have been aware of anyone's past with whom he associates.

"What? Charlie Manson killed people? Naaaaw! Get outta town!"

Obama has had a brain full of mush since the age of 8...he's not accountable for his actions in later life.

/

I am disgusted at the way the MSM is desperately trying to whitewash Ayers and Dohrn. They are the vilest of scum.

Here is the question: With all of this erupting now (CNN did a fantastic report on this last night by the way - yes.. CNN) is it going to work?

And when Obama was heading up the Woods "charity" did he not know who Khalidi was?

Here's a transcript from Kurtz's interview with Hewitt yesterday. He says more stories will be coming out on Ayers, Khalidi, and Obama, from him and others.

"That's not the Bill Ayers you know!"

Four weeks to hammer on this, along with Obama's Fannie Mae connections. Hammer it, McCain and Palin.

He didn't know about Ayers, he didn't know about Wright, he didn't know about Pfleger, he didn't know about Rezko... So, their defense is that he's stupid?

How long does he think he can get away with it? (Smirk, wink) After Nov. 5, what difference does it make?

This just in: Obama reportedly shocked upon learning of alleged unsanitary practices by bears in woods; demands Congressional hearings.

So Obama is either a) a complete liar, or b) a complete dumbass. I vote for a.

How many times does Barack Obama think he can get away with his “see no evil” act?

Only 28 days until election day. He may not have to do it that many more times.

So, his defense is that he's got shockingly bad instincts about people and no memories of what happened before this year when he started running for President? Sign me up.

re: #13 Anthony (Los Angeles)

He didn't know about Ayers, he didn't know about Wright, he didn't know about Pfleger, he didn't know about Rezko... So, their defense is that he's stupid?

It's all the drugs he did.

re: #14 jemima

How long does he think he can get away with it? (Smirk, wink) After Nov. 5, what difference does it make?

I think after Nov. 5, if Obama wins, the media will be ecstatic for a while. Then, because you can't cover a President ecstatically these days, they'll start being critical...and they'll start doing their job by digging this stuff up. Too late, but it might help in 2012.

re: #13 Anthony (Los Angeles)

He didn't know about Ayers, he didn't know about Wright, he didn't know about Pfleger, he didn't know about Rezko... So, their defense is that he's stupid?

No, their defense is that these attacks are coming from the right-wing smear machine in an attempt to change the topic while Obama speaks truth to power.

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

So Obama is either a) a complete liar, or b) a complete dumbass. I vote for a.

c) all of the above

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

He could be both :-)

In 2006:

For instance, at a November 2006 education forum in Caracas, Venezuela, with President Hugo Chávez at his side, Ayers proclaimed his support for “the profound educational reforms under way here in Venezuela under the leadership of President Chávez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution. . . . I look forward to seeing how you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane.” Ayers concluded his speech by declaring that “Venezuela is poised to offer the world a new model of education—a humanizing and revolutionary model whose twin missions are enlightenment and liberation,” and then, as in days of old, raised his fist and chanted: “Viva Presidente Chávez! Viva la Revolucion Bolivariana! Hasta la Victoria Siempre!”

SNIP

Hat-tip: a Lizard this a.m..

re: #19 Ward Cleaver

It's all the drugs he did.

Yeah! That's it! That's the ticket! It was the drugs!

/Obama campaign HQ

As noted above, it strikes me that this man who wants to be president is either completely disingenuous (most likely in my opinion this far into the race), or is completely unable to read people is is being led around by his nose.

If the first is true, we can't afford Hugo, Jr into power. If the second is true, then his associations are key, as they will still be pulling the chain to his nose ring come Jan 09.

When he looks into another's eyes...he sees what his handlers tell him he saw.

Intelligent? Maybe, which makes him dangerous. A competely empty suit, a puppet? It makes him dangerous...

Wow...two possibilities, one outcome.

How is it that a guy - running for President no less - "inadvertently" pals up with not just one, not just two, but dozens of left wing radicals? If I wanted to do what Obama did ON PURPOSE I wouldn't even know where to begin.

Needless to say his whole "aw shucks, that's just a coincidence x50" routine is wearing thin.

re: #22 DeafDog

c) all of the above

No. Obama isn't dumb. This would all be a lot easier if he were.

re: #15 Occasional Reader

This just in: Obama reportedly shocked upon learning of alleged unsanitary practices by bears in woods; demands Congressional hearings.

Upon learning that Pope Benedict XVI is the spiritual leader of the Roman Catholic church, Obama said, "That's not the Pope I knew."

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

So Obama is either a) a complete liar, or b) a complete dumbass. I vote for aMcCain/Palin.

re: #12 Ward Cleaver

Four weeks to hammer on this, along with Obama's Fannie Mae connections. Hammer it, McCain and Palin.

McCain should talk about Ayers whenever possible. If the MSM doesn't get on board, they'll have to report on what he's "ranting" about. If that doesn't pique curiosity, we'll, then we're all screwed.

H I hate to sound like the voice of negativity here, but i really don't think exposing Obama's past isn't going to do a damn thing to sway the average voter. I think they are just too surly and too mesmerized by that idiotic word "Change" to care about much of anything other than who the think is going to "Fix" things. I think McCain's only hope is to give voters a reason to vote for him, and not just a list of reasons not to vote for Obama, because frankly, the voters don't give a $hit.

/hoping i'm wrong

re: #24 MandyManners

In 2006:

Obama was only 45 years old then!

Wow, what a GREAT vid...Gets down to the facts and leaves no question as to, Did barry know?

There's absolutely no way that Obama didn't know about Ayers and Dohrn's past. If he did, he would be among the most ignorant politicians on the planet, especially when you have multiple reports from 1994 through 1996 talking about Ayers and Dohrn's antics at the 68 convention, followed by their terror attacks around the nation as part of the Weather Underground, which Ayers founded.

To claim he knows nothing would put him in to a class by himself for the most ignorant politicians of all time. How about asking him which papers he read during 1994 through 1996? Or what TV he watched? Because there's enough during those two years to have raised enough issues about Ayers.

But, then again, it goes back to something I was saying yesterday, which is that the Chicago political machine and academia rehabilitated Ayers and mainstreamed him - even though he hasn't changed his radical leftist agenda - just stopped the bombings. Obama probably figured that Ayers wasn't a liability since both academia and the Democrats in Chicago embraced Ayers.

So, if Ayers did the things that are attributed to him, does the law still have an interest?

I would love it if he were hauled off in cuffs prior to Nov 3.

The Iranians are admitting that it wasn't an American plane, it was Hungarian.

The BBC was not available to comment on their innate instinct to never believe the US or Israeli Militaries.

"Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!"

- 1969 Bernardine Dohrn in reference to the Tate-LaBianca murders

But of course Obama was only something like 8 years old at the time so this is relevant how?

/

Dow is still hangin' in there. Up 55.

re: #28 Occasional Reader

No. Obama isn't dumb. This would all be a lot easier if he were.

Point taken. He's deviously smart in a Cynthia McKinney sort of way.

McCain closes to 3 points (with a 2.8 margin of error).
Obama has 3-point national lead on McCain

re: #36 unreconstructed rebel

So, if Ayers did the things that are attributed to him, does the law still have an interest?

I would love it if he were hauled off in cuffs prior to Nov 3.

He got off on prosecutorial misconduct.

re: #37 Ben Hur

The Iranians are admitting that it wasn't an American plane, it was Hungarian.

The BBC was not available to comment on their innate instinct to never believe the US or Israeli Militaries.

Link?

re: #24 MandyManners

Che Guevara is the world's most recognizable capitalist idol.

/if you get what I mean...

Tonight Mac has to say: Ok then, let's not talk about Ayers (dont have to, the vids are out!), lets INSTEAD talk about Khalidi

re: #37 Ben Hur

The Iranians are admitting that it wasn't an American plane, it was Hungarian.

"Over"? Did you say "over", Mahmoud? Was it "over" when the Hungarians bombed Bushehr? Hell, no!

Hey, if Obama can sit in Rev. Jeremiah Wright's pews for 20 years and not notice he is a racist, America hating nutjob, then maybe he can work hand in glove with Ayers for 15 plus years and not know he was a radical.

Or maybe not.

re: #38 turn

"Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!"

And you wonder why the Islamists love these guys so much...

re: #37 Ben Hur

The media is a joke. Iran's state run media doubly so. Heh.

re: #48 laZardo

And you wonder why the Islamists love these guys so much...

My enemy's enemy ...

It's impossible to expect America's soldiers to have a Commander In Chief who was introduced to politics by people who bombed the Pentagon.

The American people have got to come to grips with this (along with the fact that Obama is once again trying to deny that he ever really knew the people he knew in his life.)

He didn't really know the man who gave sermons in his church for 20 years and who married him and baptized his children, right?

He didn't really know the guy who OWNS some of the land that his house and garden are on in 2008 (Tony Rezko), right?

He didn't really know the guy who introduced him to politics after bombing the Pentagon, right?

Who does this guy actually know in his life?

Oh, I forgot. This isn't the planet Earth that he knew either.

re: #45 Wishing

Tonight Mac has to say: Ok then, let's not talk about Ayers (dont have to, the vids are out!), lets INSTEAD talk about Khalidi

It's a tough job to turn the topic of discussion in these town halls. McCains gotta answer the question or you risk looking whacky.

I want disussion on Ayers, but I also want BHO to explain his land deal with Tony Rezko. That's a $300k payday from a felon....

re: #42 arethusa

He got off on prosecutorial misconduct.

Well, the good news is that prosecutorial misconduct may save Ted Stevens. I listened to the wiretap that the feds have & Ted comes across as NOT GUILTY.

re: #51 Adina in Judea

And this is all just a distraction from TEH ISSUES!

/typo intended ]:

It is absurd on the face of it that Obama was not familiar with Ayers past, as he had no idea what Rev Wright was about for 20 years.
Hyde Park , where the Obamas live has a radicl chic that considers Ayers to be a hero. Of course Obama kned about Ayers & his wife.
He shows up for a coffee to launch his State Senate Campaign & knows nothing about the host?

re: #32 beblebrox

H I hate to sound like the voice of negativity here, but i really don't think exposing Obama's past isn't going to do a damn thing to sway the average voter. I think they are just too surly and too mesmerized by that idiotic word "Change" to care about much of anything other than who the think is going to "Fix" things. I think McCain's only hope is to give voters a reason to vote for him, and not just a list of reasons not to vote for Obama, because frankly, the voters don't give a $hit.

/hoping i'm wrong

I don't think the devoted acolytes of the 0bamessiah will be swayed in the least (some of the hardcore moonbats will probably see this kind of thing as a plus). However, undecided voters and some of the less radical liberals probably won't like this kind of association; those people are the target here. There are a fair number of them, meaning that it could swing the election for McCain. The important thing now is to get the word out (and stay optimistic).

re: #51 Adina in Judea

It's impossible to expect America's soldiers to have a Commander In Chief who was introduced to politics by people who bombed the Pentagon.

I nominate this for Quote Of The Day.

Uh-oh! Michelle says her hubby will be amazing tonight!

Hasn't she ever heard of the game of lowered expectations?

re: #54 laZardo

re: #51 Adina in Judea

And this is all just a distraction from TEH ISSUES!

/typo intended ]:

Obama will be whining this for the rest of the month - quite true.

One doesn't "accidentally" hang around a group of Radicals, Marxists, and America-haters like Bill Ayers or Reverend Wright, certainly NOT for periods of 10-20 years.

It doesn't happen.

Obama is a Harvard-trained lawyer and US Senator. The chance of him NOT knowing who Ayers was after working with the guy for ten years is ZERO.

Didn't Obama even talk about how as a college student he was enchanted with with radicals and Marxists?

I submit its more than likely that Obama knew exactly who Ayers was BEFORE meeting him for the first time.

The vidoe is dead...interesting...

What I would really like to know is who his friends are now. He has not spoken much about current associations.

Makes me wonder who will be a part of his cabinet.

New National anthem?
Barry's song

re: #52 DeafDog

It's a tough job to turn the topic of discussion in these town halls. McCains gotta answer the question or you risk looking whacky.

Campaigners are very well-versed in answering the question they want to answer.

re: #62 HippieforLife

What I would really like to know is who his friends are now. He has not spoken much about current associations.

Makes me wonder who will be a part of his cabinet.

Make a list of all the carter/clinton hacks and your gonna be real close.

For someone supposedly so smart he is pretty f*cking dumb if you believe his surrogates.

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

What? No c) all of the above?

Obama: "I'm smart and accomplished enough to be leader of the free world, just not to judge the character of my close personal and professional associates".

Hey the video just disappeared while I had it paused!

These people in the video are the poisonous demon spawn of the '60's. They don't know how to make something out of nothing, they just know how to tear down. They have a big wrecking ball, and it has moved slowly through our entire society, leaving carnage in their wake.

They are still doing it.

re: #56 Fat Jolly Penguin

I don't think the devoted acolytes of the 0bamessiah will be swayed in the least (some of the hardcore moonbats will probably see this kind of thing as a plus).

The hard left considers Obama a middle-of-the-road Republicrat hack and tool of the oppressive capitalist system.

What BOTHERS me is the fact that these TERROISTS, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn live freely in Chicago? They GEY OFF on a technicality? They teach our YOUNG? They get MILLIONS in GRANT MONEY? Are Chicagoans that tolerant to not have thrown these PIGS out of town? Simply Amazing....Only exceded by the possibility of Barack being our next President!

re: #56 Fat Jolly Penguin

I don't think the devoted acolytes of the 0bamessiah will be swayed in the least (some of the hardcore moonbats will probably see this kind of thing as a plus). However, undecided voters and some of the less radical liberals probably won't like this kind of association; those people are the target here. There are a fair number of them, meaning that it could swing the election for McCain. The important thing now is to get the word out (and stay optimistic).

Perhaps, i hope you are right. I just tend to think that those people who win every election; the generally apolitical who only pay attention long enough to decide who to vote once every 4 years, vote on bread and butter pocketbook issues. They don't really care whether obama had dealing with terrorists or even if he personally slept with lenin and Stalin. Likewise the could care less whether McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton, or the Hilton Head Ramada. All they hear and see is those market numbers crashing, and they are freaking out wanting someone to do something. And whoever looks like they will do more, will be the next president.

Obama is shady, his pals are shady, his business associates are shady...

Why does anyone think he is qualified to occupy the same office as did George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln?

Truth is, he isn't... America wants change for the sake of change and wants to out the party in power... They don't give a crap that Obama is a thug...

Once again, the US dissents from the rest of the world.

re: #35 lawhawk

But, then again, it goes back to something I was saying yesterday, which is that the Chicago political machine and academia rehabilitated Ayers and mainstreamed him - even though he hasn't changed his radical leftist agenda - just stopped the bombings. Obama probably figured that Ayers wasn't a liability since both academia and the Democrats in Chicago embraced Ayers.

The reality is that Ayers and other 'critical theorists' like Noam Chomsky 'rehabilitated' Academia and mainstreamed their radical leftist agenda.

I take that back. I'm watching from the Hot Air link now.

The big question is why did Ayers pick/approve Obama, a complete nobody at the time, to chair a $50,000,000 grant commission?

Why is this momentous occasion completely omitted from Obama's two memoirs?

Can someone make a copy of this because it's fate with a certain memory hole is all but certain.

re: #20 arethusa

Possible, but not likely, I think. I don't think they'll do it on their own. Some independent reporter might start stirring things up, then they'll have to start "reporting" on his/her "shocking findings".

And its BOs associates who he would possibly give cabinet positions to or lesser, but he is bound to give these people some sort of position since he owes no doubt a lot of favors.

re: #61 AndyMacOP

The vidoe is dead...interesting...

re: #69 loppyd

Hey the video just disappeared while I had it paused!

That's weird. It still works for me. Maybe YouTube's trying to toss it.

If they are, you might want to download it before they do. Here's a program to do that -- just install it, then paste the URL of the video into the box and you can convert it to a bunch of different video formats once it's saved to your disk.

re: #13 Anthony (Los Angeles)

He didn't know about Ayers, he didn't know about Wright, he didn't know about Pfleger, he didn't know about Rezko... So, their defense is that he's stupid?

Stupid?
But ... but ... he went to Hahvaad!

re: #62 HippieforLife

What I would really like to know is who his friends are now. He has not spoken much about current associations.

Makes me wonder who will be a part of his cabinet.

Ayers will be Sect'y of Education. Bank on it.

re: #56 Fat Jolly Penguin

The important thing now is to get the word out (and stay optimistic).

The turnwife asked me why I was so quite yesterday. I didn't tell her but I think I'm really struggling with this part right now FJP. That dog won't hunt told me something I thought was pretty enlightening and encouraging last night. He is speculating the polls will completely narrow days before the election because the in-the-tank polsters will try and regain some element of credibility before the actual vote. That made me optimistic.

re: #81 Teacake!

... since he owes no doubt a lot of favors.

I have a hunch that an Obama presidency is gonna be ungrateful. Suckers!

re: #74 tfc3rid

Why does anyone think he is qualified to occupy the same office as did George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln?

Actually, they think he's qualified to occupy the same office as did Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

I don't get the whole "the power in this country belongs to the Black people" angle.

If the black population today is around 14%, it must've been around 10-11% back then.

I think most liberals believe that the situation is reversed.

This is not South Africa, or Brazil (50-50 European to Native).

Ok, so Barack Hussein Mahmoud Obama sympathizes with the radical left. Perhaps people should stop calling him a "fascist" now.

re: #82 Fat Jolly Penguin

That's weird. It still works for me. Maybe YouTube's trying to toss it.

If they are, you might want to download it before they do. Here's a program to do that -- just install it, then paste the URL of the video into the box and you can convert it to a bunch of different video formats once it's saved to your disk.

It's working now on Hot Air.

I can't download software onto this work computer - it's too old and slow so my brother put the kibash on new stuff.

re: #74 tfc3rid

Obama is shady, his pals are shady, his business associates are shady...

Why does anyone think he is qualified to occupy the same office as did George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln?

Truth
is, he isn't... America wants change for the sake of change and wants
to out the party in power... They don't give a crap that Obama is a
thug...

He isn't qualified to sit in the same office as Jimmy Carter!

January 21, 2009 (Washington) - Obama to nation: PWNED!

re: #43 Celtic Templar

Link?

foxnews.com

re: #78 looking closely

The big question is why did Ayers pick/approve Obama, a complete nobody at the time, to chair a $50,000,000 grant commission?

Why is this momentous occasion completely omitted from Obama's two memoirs?

Because, like my trip to Pakistan, it's not really important. Hey, did I mention my uncle liberated Auschwitz? -BHO

re: #32 beblebrox

H I hate to sound like the voice of negativity here, but i really don't think exposing Obama's past isn't going to do a damn thing to sway the average voter. I think they are just too surly and too mesmerized by that idiotic word "Change" to care about much of anything other than who the think is going to "Fix" things. I think McCain's only hope is to give voters a reason to vote for him, and not just a list of reasons not to vote for Obama, because frankly, the voters don't give a $hit.

/hoping i'm wrong

Afraid you're probably right....

re: #89 Edgar

Ok, so Barack Hussein Mahmoud Obama sympathizes with the radical left. Perhaps people should stop calling him a "fascist" now.

Fascism as practiced today is aligned with the Left.

Ok, last night I popped a dvd called Obsession into my comp. I got it in the mail recently and I didn't know what it was at that time. I hardly slept after watching it. This dvd is the most powerful presentation of the dangers of Fundamentalist Islam I have ever seen. I knew about most of the incidents they covered in the program but to see them assembled into a documentary was absolutely sobering.

It made me really examine the outcome of an Obama presidency. He is a frightening candidate. Not because I think he is a secret Muslim but because he surrounds himself with anti-American racists and bomb throwers and those would be the people who surround him in the White House. Moreover, those people would have access to America's strategic information. While Obama may not be a Muslim, he certainly is friends with Farrakkhan, Ayers, etc. and would open his doors and who knows what else to terrorist leaders. Can anyone with a brain think it is a good idea to give these people the keys to our country?

re: #83 yma o hyd

Stupid?
But ... but ... he went to Hahvaad!

I think we're going to get another Bill Clinton...

Haven't quite accepted it yet, though.

re: #8 Junior

Here is the question: With all of this erupting now (CNN did a fantastic report on this last night by the way - yes.. CNN) is it going to work?

Here it is.

It basically points out that Obama is a liar.

re: #91 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He isn't qualified to sit in the same office as Jimmy Carter!

That is some indictment!

re: #83 yma o hyd

Stupid?
But ... but ... he went to Hahvaad!

Yes, and he also went to "Pawkeestawn"... but he never talks about that.

re: #64 Occasional Reader

It's a tough job to turn the topic of discussion in these town halls. McCains gotta answer the question or you risk looking whacky.

Campaigners are very well-versed in answering the question they want to answer.

True, but identifying the right moment is key. Suppose there are series of questions about the economy and instead of talking about the economy McCain talks about Ayers. BHO, meanwhile, goes through his litany of new freebies and handouts for folks (and pinning Bush-fatigue on McCain). McCain may think he's scoring points, but then - BHO will stop in one of his mid answers to say, "I've answered those Ayers questions a thousand times. I want to help American rejuvinate. McCain is just interested in negativity. I am hope and change. He's politics as usual."

Then the debate is lost.

re: #97 WinterCat

It made me really examine the outcome of an Obama presidency. He is a frightening candidate. Not because I think he is a secret Muslim but because he surrounds himself with anti-American racists and bomb throwers and those would be the people who surround him in the White House. Moreover, those people would have access to America's strategic information. While Obama may not be a Muslim, he certainly is friends with Farrakkhan, Ayers, etc. and would open his doors and who knows what else to terrorist leaders. Can anyone with a brain think it is a good idea to give these people the keys to our country?

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

re: #89 Edgar

Ok, so Barack Hussein Mahmoud Obama sympathizes with the radical left. Perhaps people should stop calling him a "fascist" now.

Left and Right are the same: hatred of freedom.

His defense is so simplistic because nothing more is required of him.

Obama's campaign is treating this as a non-issue as much as possible, and the media (in general) will fall all over themselves window-dressing it for him.

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

False.

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

Um, William Ayers?

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

I have him down as all three.

re: #89 Edgar

Ok, so Barack Hussein Mahmoud Obama sympathizes with the radical left. Perhaps people should stop calling him a "fascist" now.

Fascists in 1930s-40s Germany were called the National WHAT Party? Refresh my memory.

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

He hangs out with Ayers and Dohrn, two terrorists. He attends functions for Palestinian terrorists.

Obama camp response:

Uhhh.... quick! Look over there! Keating Five! Old dude! (Olbie? Little help please?) KEATING!

re: #8 Junior

Here is the question: With all of this erupting now (CNN did a fantastic report on this last night by the way - yes.. CNN) is it going to work?

Yes, CNN did the report but after it was over Gergen, Borger and Roberts and Anderson were doing there best to say ........ oh, its the economy ...... don't really need to discuss this. They played the clip because they want to appear unbiased but it is very clear they are ....... glad they aired it but the commentary afterwards was ....... all Obama all the time.

re: #104 MandyManners

Left and Right are the same: hatred of freedom.

Well, I don't think Obama "hates freedom."

If anything he's a moderately crooked politician. Nothing new here.

re: #110 CEQAttorney

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

botched police work and prosecution

Should BHO becaome President, wait and see who we pardons. The list will be long. Then tell me he is no terrorist sympathizer.

re: #110 CEQAttorney

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

Prosecutorial misconduct.

re: #110 CEQAttorney

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

The feds screwed up in their surveillance of them and the evidence was tossed.

re: #95 BaseballMom57

Afraid you're probably right....

What matters to us is not going to matter to, as Sara Panlin is fond of referring to as "Joe Six-Pack". the fact that we are here demonstrates we are not normal or average.

re: #110 CEQAttorney

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

I believe they were pardoned by one William Jefferson Clinton. I stand ready to be corrected, however.

re: #110 CEQAttorney

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

Inept prosecution.

re: #116 rawmuse

Should BHO becaome President, wait and see who we pardons. The list will be long. Then tell me he is no terrorist sympathizer.

Excellent point.

re: #114 Edgar

Well, I don't think Obama "hates freedom."

If anything he's a moderately crooked politician. Nothing new here.

You're a fucking idiot.

GAZE.

re: #112 hailing frequencies open

Obama camp response:

Uhhh.... quick! Look over there! Keating Five! Old dude! (Olbie? Little help please?) KEATING!

SQUEEK! SQUEEK!

re: #110 CEQAttorney

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

Illegal wiretap. Case dismissed, I assume "with prejudice".

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

Like most choices, pick any two of the three.

re: #110 CEQAttorney

I have a dumb question.

Why aren't Ayers and Dorhn in jail?

They are reverse martyrs, unpunished as an act of absolution by the US FedGov to try and close the doors on the Age of Aquarius Riots.

I.e., the same reason John Kerry and Hanoi Jane walk free.

re: #116 rawmuse

Should BHO becaome President, wait and see who we HE pardons. The list will be long. Then tell me he is no terrorist sympathizer.

PIMF.

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

Obama is a liar and a terrorist sympathizer. He is not an idiot.

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

Is that why after 9/11 he decided to stop wearing the flag lapel pin?

re: #118 MandyManners

The feds screwed up in their surveillance of them and the evidence was tossed.

Well before we blame the feds ( and they may very well be at fault ) I would like to see who the Judge was that threw the evidence out. Just saying.

re: #120 hailing frequencies open

I believe they were pardoned by one William Jefferson Clinton. I stand ready to be corrected, however.

Quick fingers out there! I must have been thinking of those other Puerto Rican terrorist, or Marc Rich, or something like that.

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

Did u forget the sarc tag?

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

Maybe, but terrorists seem awfully sympathetic to him.

re: #97 WinterCat

If you really want an education about islame, spend some time at jihadwatch.org for starters

The issue that no one dares approach is that not only is Barack Hussein Obama associated with these miscreants and terrorists, but that, he likely shares their views... You can't tell me that he doesn't share Rev. Wright's views. You can't tell me that he doesn't share Ayers views on brainwashing kids...

Come on man...

On page 82 of his book Ayers tells about all the wonderful people living his neighborhood .......you know the usual welcome wagon types ...... Farrakan .....and Barack Obama who he describes as a writer.

[Link: books.google.com...]

re: #116 rawmuse

Should BHO becaome President, wait and see who we pardons. The list will be long. Then tell me he is no terrorist sympathizer.

On January19, 2013, or God help us, 2017:

William Ayers
Bernardine Dohrn
Tony Rezko
Gov. Blago
Khalidi
others?

re: #99 karmic_inquisitor

Thanks Karmic. Everybody needs to watch that report.

OK, we're going to stay on topic tonight? Let's talk about the economy. ACORN. Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. Community Organizing. Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Woods Foundation.

In Hyde Park, Nail Bomb Billy is a well-respected man.

Making love,
smoking dope,
loading guns!

/What could possibly go wrong?

re: #109 Occasional Reader

Fascists in 1930s-40s Germany were called the National WHAT Party? Refresh my memory.

Ok, so the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" must be a republic and democracy then, too.

Right?

re: #96 rawmuse

Fascism as practiced today is aligned with the Left.

As practiced now, as practiced then. Musolini's parents were both Italian "International Socialists". Communist dissidents. He was a member of the same political movement until he reformed into a more nationalistic platform.

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

This man wants to sit and talk to iran and syria. What could be more sympathetic than that?!

You know, this whole Ayers, etc./terrorist strategy is a good start, all true, part of the solution. But with four weeks to go, it's down the stretch they come and Lord Obama is breezing to victory by five lengths, going away, nationally and in every battleground State, riding the current economic crisis over the finish line.

The American people understand the pain and they understand, pretty much, the capitalist way of life. What they don't fully understand yet, is exactly what Lord Obama is peddling as the cure.

If McCain uses the "S" word to Lord Obama's face, preferably tomorrow night, and backs it up and drives it home with the lengthy and well documented factual history, then McCain has a chance, because the vast majority of sane Americans want no part of socialism.

/otherwise, we're going to get our asses kicked and have to live with the consequences for at least two years

re: #143 Edgar

Ok, so the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" must be a republic and democracy then, too.

Right?

You're not just a fucking idiot. You're a fucking troll.

If you hang around with unrepentant terrorists I would say you sympathize with their cause, therefore you are a terrorist sympathizer.

re: #101 Kenneth

Yes, and he also went to "Pawkeestawn"... but he never talks about that.

Odd, innit - he never seems to talk about his time at Harvard, either. Or at Columbia ...
And he seems to have made no friends for life amongst his student colleagues, not one ...

Anybody who has read some books about communist penetration would know what that means: SLEEPER!

re: #123 MandyManners

You're a fucking idiot.

GAZE.

That's an insult to the word "fucking"!

re: #143 Edgar

Let me get this straight; Stalin, to your mind, wasn't a "fascist", because he was on the "left". Correct?

THere is everything in Obma's past that would lead him to Ayers & his wife.
In his life he always sought Maxist, islamic & radical associations.
Ayers is right in his comfort zone.

re: #146 Sharmuta

This man wants to sit and talk to iran and syria. What could be more sympathetic than that?!

To be fair to Edgar, it's also idiotic.

re: #123 MandyManners

You're a fucking idiot.

GAZE.

Mandy, can you go one day without demonstrating that you have a room-temperature IQ and swear like a drunken sailor when someone disagrees with you?

I think the reverse is more important. It's not what Obama knew, but it's why Ayers was attracted to Obama. Ayers is an America hater who wants to destroy this country. What did/does he see in Obama that makes Ayers want Obama to go places? What changes does Ayers think will occur to America if a Barry Obama makes it big?

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

He is Ayers/Soros/Khalidi/Wright's Manchurian candidate (geez, can he get more stench?) He's the choice of terrorists. Sympathizer would assume that he had another role or position to sympathize from. He is the political progeny of terrorism.

re: #151 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's an insult to the word "fucking"!

LOL!

Most people I know who are gung ho for obama don't even know anything about him other than he is young, speaks well and is not the usual old white man. The only change they really want is no more Christian white man... and these people have NO IDEA what changes would be in store if this guy god forbid was POTUS

It seems that Obama's "holier than thou" has become full of holes...

Nooooooooooooooooo. Say it isn't true. The Obamessiah lie? Noooooooooo.

/s

re: #148 MandyManners

You're not just a fucking idiot. You're a fucking troll.

Just like Obama is the Democratic nominee? You're not good at this.

Hmmmm - broser froze when I went to post a comment, then I had to log in again (3rd time today).
Anyway, sorry this is late but:
The Ayers/Wright/Rezko et.al. connections go to the issue of TRUST. And I still believe that when push comes to shove, the American voter STILL pulls the lever for the candidate their gut tells them they can trust.

re: #158 MandyManners

LOL!

Yeah incredibly funny, really. Except it's been recycled 10000x so far.

Returning GAZE.

re: #143 Edgar

Ok, so the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" must be a republic and democracy then, too.

Right?

Just like Obama is the Democratic nominee? You're not good at this.

re: #147 Killian Bundy

Sir John versus the dark Lord Obama. I love it.

re: #156 Dave the.....

I think the reverse is more important. It's not what Obama knew, but it's why Ayers was attracted to Obama. Ayers is an America hater who wants to destroy this country. What did/does he see in Obama that makes Ayers want Obama to go places? What changes does Ayers think will occur to America if a Barry Obama makes it big?

Obama is a candidate sent to subvert the authority of the US government... His belief system is one of revolution...

Sadly none of this will have much of an impact. People who are voting for Obama aren't voting for him for rational reasons. They're voting to feel better about themselves. The malignant narcissism and shallowness of our American Idol society has now completely contaminated our electoral process as well.

A Barack Obama victory and presidency might not be the end of the Republic, but it will be the beginning of it. There's something fundamentally wrong with a society that, in serious times, chooses a vacuous, self-absorbed incompetent over a man of proven experience and character.

re: #162 Celtic Templar

Just like Obama is the Democratic nominee? You're not good at this.

Sorry Mandy, quoting misfire.

re: #103 Edgar

Obama is a liar and an idiot, not a terrorist sympathizer.

Odd then, that he would befriend unrepentent terrorists.

re: #148 MandyManners

You're not just a fucking idiot. You're a fucking troll.

Mandy, you're the longest-standing troll on LGF. If you any sort of argument, even occasionally, perhaps you wouldn't be.

re: #164 Edgar

Yeah incredibly funny, really. Except it's been recycled 10000x so far.

Returning GAZE.

You are rubber and she is glue!

GROW UP.

Last night Nightline referred to Ayers as a "respected professor", planting an inferance that his radical past was a youth's minor indiscretion.

How does a Republican ever win when the press and media is part of the Democrat campaign machine?

re: #155 Edgar

Hoo, boy.

re: #147 Killian Bundy

Very true, but I think he can make these points with or without the "S" word.

It will be important, I think, for McCain to point out that the current Crisis is a global crisis. As painful as it has been for America, it is a lot more painful in countries that have already adopted the policies that BHO is advocating.

re: #171 Edgar

Mandy, you're the longest-standing troll on LGF. If you any sort of argument, even occasionally, perhaps you wouldn't be.

Huh? ESL?

Seriously, the guy set off bombs at the Pentagon among other places. Why is this so hard to discern as abhorrent, evil, terrorism? BHO has close ties to this guy among others and the MSM ignores or redirects the arguments. Is anyone really afraid of what his presidency will bring?

I am!

re: #168 Dirk Diggler

It may have an impact on those white working class dems who were hesitantly starting to lean Obama, though.

he malignant narcissism and shallowness of our American Idol society has now completely contaminated our electoral process as well.

Exactly! Nothing more to it than that and that is sad and frightening.

re: #173 opinionated

inference

I'd like to know who paid for Obama to travel to Bali for several months to write his book and why Bali?

re: #173 opinionated

Last night Nightline referred to Ayers as a "respected professor",

But he is! He's respected... by terrorists.

re: #171 Edgar

Mandy, you're the longest-standing troll on LGF. If you any sort of argument, even occasionally, perhaps you wouldn't be.

That might be one of THE dumbest things I've ever read on LGF, and that's saying something.

re: #120 hailing frequencies open

I believe they were pardoned by one William Jefferson Clinton. I stand ready to be corrected, however.

Nope, charges dropped. FBI screwed up and much of the evidence was thrown out.

re: #175 DeafDog

Very true, but I think he can make these points with or without the "S" word.

It will be important, I think, for McCain to point out that the current Crisis is a global crisis. As painful as it has been for America, it is a lot more painful in countries that have already adopted the policies that BHO is advocating.

YES! Exactly!

offtopic:

Bank of America and Ca state atty-general Jerry Brown come to settlement that forces B of A to write down the principal amount of loans plus rebate late charges and lower interest rates

Biden was right on the money when he said Democrats would ruin banks

watch for a run on B of A in 5,4,3,2,1......

re: #176 MandyManners

Huh? ESL?

Just keep GAZING. I know this will result in the inevitable screams of "pedophile!" like last time. So drop it.

re: #168 Dirk Diggler

Did you say malignant narcissism?

re: #181 seekeroftruth

I'd like to know who paid for Obama to travel to Bali for several months to write his book and why Bali?

Why. Would you write a book in Newark NJ if you didn't have to?

re: #175 DeafDog

Very true, but I think he can make these points with or without the "S" word.

It will be important, I think, for McCain to point out that the current Crisis is a global crisis. As painful as it has been for America, it is a lot more painful in countries that have already adopted the policies that BHO is advocating.

That part should be pointed out this evening.
Nice observation.

re: #143 Edgar

Ok, so the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" must be a republic and democracy then, too.

Right?

Hitler's first public speech centered on on how to get rid of capitalism. Nice try, troll.

re: #183 Sharmuta

That might be one of THE dumbest things I've ever read on LGF, and that's saying something.

You probably don't use the preview function, then.

re: #150 yma o hyd

Odd, innit - he never seems to talk about his time at Harvard, either. Or at Columbia ...
And he seems to have made no friends for life amongst his student colleagues, not one ...

Anybody who has read some books about communist penetration would know what that means: SLEEPER!

Where are the former girlfriends, you know the ones that he would have made pillow talk with? it might have been love at first sight with Michelle as they both say , but that is not the day that he was born.

re: #175 DeafDog

Very true, but I think he can make these points with or without the "S" word.

It will be important, I think, for McCain to point out that the current Crisis is a global crisis. As painful as it has been for America, it is a lot more painful in countries that have already adopted the policies that BHO is advocating.

Iceland, for one, is completey in the terlet

re: #187 Edgar

Just keep GAZING. I know this will result in the inevitable screams of "pedophile!" like last time. So drop it.

Wow- you're really hung up on that. You have an obsessive streak. Maybe you should see someone about that.

re: #167 tfc3rid

Obama is a candidate sent to subvert the authority of the US government... His belief system is one of revolution...

Who sent Obama?

God love the PUMAs. I never thought I'd find common cause with Hillary supporters.

re: #186 Adrenalyn

offtopic:

Bank of America and Ca state atty-general Jerry Brown come to settlement that forces B of A to write down the principal amount of loans plus rebate late charges and lower interest rates

Biden was right on the money when he said Democrats would ruin banks

watch for a run on B of A in 5,4,3,2,1......

Is that THE Jerry Brown? Isn't he the former gov?

re: #103 Edgar

Well, I disagree. He is a terrorist sympathizer but I give you that he is a liar and an idiot on top of it.

re: #159 Teacake!
Hi Teacake! One of the comments I DID get to post on the DT was to the effect that for an "agent of Change" most of Obama's campaign advisors seem to come from the Carter/Clinton administrations. How the hell can he be an agent of change when all his major ideas come from folks older than I am?!
Try asking that of your average Obama supporter (and if they want specifics mention Madeline Albright, Secretary of State under Carter; Zbingnev Brezihshki (hope you don't have to spell THAT!) Carter's National Security advisor - and look how well they turned out - you may have to remind them of the 56 American Citizens held hostage by Iran in 1979 for 444 days but that's ok, they need to learn American history somewhere!

re: #171 Edgar

Edgar, Knock knock.

re: #187 Edgar

Just keep GAZING. I know this will result in the inevitable screams of "pedophile!" like last time. So drop it.

Again, I NEVER CALLED YOU A PEDOPHILE.

I know this will result in the inevitable screams of "pedophile!" like last time.

Which, of course, is a false claim, Edgar. But it's interesting that it struck such a nerve with you. Hmm.

Gonna head to bed a tad early. Gym got me all pooped. G'night!

re: #192 Edgar

You probably don't use the preview function, then.

LMAO!

If Edgar, or anyone else for that matter, is serious about understanding the deep ties that facists & socialists have, might I suggest Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism? It very aptly demonstrates that there is very little difference between the radical left & radical right.

re: #196 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Or, to use Babylon 5 phrasing:

Who are you?
What do you want?

re: #187 Edgar

Just keep GAZING. I know this will result in the inevitable screams of "pedophile!" like last time. So drop it.

Edgar, You seems to rear your head when some negative shit comes out about Obama. Are you reporting from your trolling cubicle in GAZA? Have you gotten your "talking points" from Axelrod today?

re: #199 WinterCat

Well, I disagree. He is a terrorist sympathizer but I give you that he is a liar and an idiot on top of it.

Great. An argument without an insult.

Practically speaking, what could that mean? Do you think Obama would actually support terrorism if he was elected?

re: #159 Teacake!

Most people I know who are gung ho for obama don't even know anything about him other than he is young, speaks well and is not the usual old white man. The only change they really want is no more Christian white man... and these people have NO IDEA what changes would be in store if this guy god forbid was POTUS

Exactly. And that's what makes it vewwy vewwy scawwey.

re: #196 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who sent Obama?

In my opinion? The NOI. Ayers and the Chicago Machine. Soros.

OT: Memory Hole opens wide - NBC purges SNL skit on Democrats.

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

re: #209 Edgar

Great. An argument without an insult.

Practically speaking, what could that mean? Do you think Obama would actually support terrorism if he was elected?

Yes.

Wow, somebody's a wee bit defensive.

re: #166 unreconstructed rebel

Sir John versus the dark Lord Obama. I love it.

/let Palin call him out as a socialist if John doesn't have the dignified balls, it's true, and he'll be blamed for not telling the American public anyways if he doesn't do it himself

re: #200 realwest

Hi Teacake! One of the comments I DID get to post on the DT was to the effect that for an "agent of Change" most of Obama's campaign advisors seem to come from the Carter/Clinton administrations. How the hell can he be an agent of change when all his major ideas come from folks older than I am?!
Try asking that of your average Obama supporter (and if they want specifics mention Madeline Albright, Secretary of State under Carter; Zbingnev Brezihshki (hope you don't have to spell THAT!) Carter's National Security advisor - and look how well they turned out - you may have to remind them of the 56 American Citizens held hostage by Iran in 1979 for 444 days but that's ok, they need to learn American history somewhere!

And, not to mention, taking on Joe Biden as his running mate!

re: #55 opnion

It is absurd on the face of it that Obama was not familiar with Ayers past, as he had no idea what Rev Wright was about for 20 years.
Hyde Park , where the Obamas live has a radicl chic that considers Ayers to be a hero. Of course Obama kned about Ayers & his wife.
He shows up for a coffee to launch his State Senate Campaign & knows nothing about the host?

Perhaps Obama just hangs in the men's room and does lots of drugs. That would explain all the contradictions.

"Just a guy in my neighborhood"

my ass.

"i didn't know he was a radical"

my ass.

re: #203 Occasional Reader

Which, of course, is a false claim, Edgar. But it's interesting that it struck such a nerve with you. Hmm.

Yeah, generally when someone (in this case MandyManners) calls me a "pedophile" for disagreeing with her it pisses me off a great deal.

re: #211 tfc3rid

In my opinion? The NOI. Ayers and the Chicago Machine. Soros.

Hey there!

Soros was my first guess.

This could make a difference in the election, but not for people who get their news from the MSM, which, if they cover it at all, will make Ayers sound like a "reformed" terrorist, kind of like Jerry Rubin, who became a stockbroker.
The MSM is so on 0bama's side that their articles should be considered campaign contributions.

re: #49 lawhawk

The media is a joke. Iran's state run media doubly so. Heh.

A US plane has been forced to land in Iran after violating Iranian territory, the Iranian semi-official Fars news agency has reported.

That's how the BBC first reported it.

An Iranian news agency said on Tuesday that a U.S. military aircraft had unintentionally violated Iranian airspace and been forced to land in Iran, but later allowed to leave.

That's REuters from your blog.

Reuters sucks, but G-d, look at the BBC line.

Of course when I click on the original BBC link, the article has been changed (they're very quick).

re: #168 Dirk Diggler

Sadly none of this will have much of an impact. People who are voting for Obama aren't voting for him for rational reasons. They're voting to feel better about themselves. The malignant narcissism and shallowness of our American Idol society has now completely contaminated our electoral process as well.

A Barack Obama victory and presidency might not be the end of the Republic, but it will be the beginning of it. There's something fundamentally wrong with a society that, in serious times, chooses a vacuous, self-absorbed incompetent over a man of proven experience and character.

Thing is - it'll be a waste of time to try and convert the true B0-admirers.
McCain must go for the fence sitters, the as yet uncommitted, the independents.

And he must - as someone said above - show them why they should vote for him - not why they should not vote for B0!

Palin can get with the Ayers and Khalidi-connections, she can drum these home.
McCain must go for the economy, the mess B0 and his dem cronies have instigated and will only increase.

Well - thats my advice to the McCain campaing, feel free to send it to them, seeing that I'm not an American citizen ...

re: #189 Nevergiveup

Why. Would you write a book in Newark NJ if you didn't have to?

Newark sure wouldn't be my choice! However, how many authors get paid to travel to another country to write their books? Unless, they are doing research, most authors write at home or at least locally based.

re: #213 Sharmuta

Yes.

How? What kind? Where?

re: #209 Edgar

Do you think Obama would actually support terrorism if he was elected?

Class, today's lesson is on the distinction between means and goals.

re: #155 Edgar

So, why does Obama hang with people who HATE the US. Now his group tries to sue anyone who brings up stuff about him.

Some how I can't see how he love freedom.

re: #120 hailing frequencies open
Ayers was pardoned by Clinton, iirc. Dorhn was tried for MURDER but was acquited because the only folks who knew she planted the bomb and where she planted it and when she set it off (and it killed on cop and blinded another for life) were Co-Conspirators and under the law then you couldn't be convicted soley on the testimony of co-conspirators.

re: #8 Junior

Here is the question: With all of this erupting now (CNN did a fantastic report on this last night by the way - yes.. CNN) is it going to work?

It's very possible, but IMO, he waited too damn long. In fairness, he probably couldn't have foreseen the Dow collapse, but it's tough to break through with a character argument given the current state of political affairs. And as much as I also think the idea of rehashing Keating is not the best tack for the Obama campaign to take, at least they can tie it back in to the economy.

I think it's going to be very difficult to cut through the political clutter with Ayres. One, Ayres doesn't look like what many people picture as a terrorist. Two, this means it has to be explained, which means you have to capture their attention away from whatever else they've been reading/watching/listening to. Three, the explanation requires background to the pointthat I think a lot of people stop caring twenty seconds into the explanation.

In early September, this would have been good groundwork for a narrative about how Obama lacks the judgment and the character to be POTUS. Now, I think it really carries the odor of desperation. That said, I think he has to play this card now, with the race slipping away.

re: #225 Edgar

How? What kind? Where?

Talking without preconditions.
Islamic.
Iran.

re: #209 Edgar

Great. An argument without an insult.

Practically speaking, what could that mean? Do you think Obama would actually support terrorism if he was elected?

I think so.
He might not realize it at the moment, but that would be the end result of his decision(s).

I give you Jimmy Carter as my best example.

re: #135 Glackinspeil

I did see that listed on the Obsession video. I may take a look at that next but quite honestly, I don't really need any more convincing. I have been watching Islam's progression into the west since 9/11. It is just when you see it all put together in this way that it becomes clear that we are a heck of a lot closer to the brink than one would believe, even after following the blogs for awhile.

re: #224 seekeroftruth

Newark sure wouldn't be my choice! However, how many authors get paid to travel to another country to write their books? Unless, they are doing research, most authors write at home or at least locally based.

I was just joking. Obama's whole life is a big mystery.

re: #227 Dustoff-507

So, why does Obama hang with people who HATE the US. Now his group tries to sue anyone who brings up stuff about him.

Some how I can't see how he love freedom.

Ok, let's say he secretly sympathizes with former 60s radical terrorists. That doesn't mean he's going to fund al-Qaeda while he's in office.

Yes, I think he'll make a bad president. But saying he'll support terrorism is ludicrous.

No teleprompter tonight.

re: #207 lawhawk

Or, to use Babylon 5 phrasing:

Who are you?
What do you want?

Of course, I'm reminded of the greatest quote ever from that show.

"Some day, I'm going to see your head on a pike. And when I do, I'm gonna smile and wave at you, just like this." /waves

Ok, I AM GOING TO TYPE IN ANNOYING CAPS TO GET THIS POINT ACROSS.

DON'T START THIS STUFF WITH EDGAR. IN THE LEAST, HE COMES ON HERE TO HIGHJACK THE THREADS, IN THE MOST, HE IS TROLLING FOR COMMENTS THAT HE CAN CLIP AND PASTE AND USE AGAINST CONSERVATIVES (OR OTHER LIBERALS WILL USE AGAINST US).

JUST GAZE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR HIM RIGHT NOW. AND YES EDGAR, THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST POST FROM ME ABOUT YOU ON THEIS THREAD, YOU'RE NOT WORTH ANY MORE OF MY TIME.

That's all.

re: #227 Dustoff-507
Hey Dustoff! It's because deep inside - well ok, maybe not so deep - Obama doesn't much like America and he sure as hell doesn't respect America.
That's manifest from his own words out of his own mouth and from his own pen (assuming, arguendo, that Ayers didn't write his books for him).

re: #234 Edgar

Ok, let's say he secretly sympathizes with former 60s radical terrorists. That doesn't mean he's going to fund al-Qaeda while he's in office.

Yes, I think he'll make a bad president. But saying he'll support terrorism is ludicrous.

Benign neglect in this day and age is tantamount to support.

re: #233 Nevergiveup

I was just joking. Obama's whole life is a big mystery.

Indeed it is.

re: #234 Edgar

Ok, let's say he secretly sympathizes with former 60s radical terrorists. That doesn't mean he's going to fund al-Qaeda while he's in office.

Yes, I think he'll make a bad president. But saying he'll support terrorism is ludicrous.

He wants to talk to Iran- who is the largest funder of terrorism in the world.

What part of this don't you grasp?

re: #235 winston06

No teleprompter tonight.

I wonder if they broke the news to Barry yet.

re: #237 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I AM GOING TO TYPE IN ANNOYING CAPS TO GET THIS POINT ACROSS.

DON'T START THIS STUFF WITH EDGAR. IN THE LEAST, HE COMES ON HERE TO HIGHJACK THE THREADS, IN THE MOST, HE IS TROLLING FOR COMMENTS THAT HE CAN CLIP AND PASTE AND USE AGAINST CONSERVATIVES (OR OTHER LIBERALS WILL USE AGAINST US).

JUST GAZE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR HIM RIGHT NOW. AND YES EDGAR, THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST POST FROM ME ABOUT YOU ON THEIS THREAD, YOU'RE NOT WORTH ANY MORE OF MY TIME.

That's all.

if this is true, then why don't posters report to Charles
who can make the decision to ban him or not

Another day, another Biden lie:

But, despite the bravado, Biden was not a key player in the legislation that ultimately forced Bill Clinton to lift an arms embargo imposed by the United Nations on Bosnian Muslims fighting the Serbs, according to congressional officials involved in the issue and a review of Biden's speeches and voting record.

In his autobiography, "Promises to Keep," Biden says that the pivotal Senate vote came "nearly three years after I called for the plan" to unilaterally lift the embargo. But the charge actually was led by then-Senate Minority Leader Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.) and Democratic Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.), who has since become an independent.

"His views were consistent with what we were doing," said Stephen G. Rademaker, then a House Republican aide who initially drafted the legislation and brought it to Dole's attention. "But I never regarded him as a leader in the effort."

re: #168 Dirk Diggler

There's something fundamentally wrong with a society that, in serious times, chooses a vacuous, self-absorbed incompetent over a man of proven experience and character.

upding dirk, I'm passing that on.

re: #219 Edgar

Yeah, generally when someone (in this case MandyManners) calls me a "pedophile" for disagreeing with her it pisses me off a great deal.

I DIDN'T CALL YOU A PEDOPHILE. QUIT LYING.

re: #168 Dirk Diggler

Sadly none of this will have much of an impact. People who are voting for Obama aren't voting for him for rational reasons.

For Obamba's adoring masses that is true, but we are no longer in the Democratic primary. If the One is to be defeated, we can't delude ourselves that we are just smarter than everyone else. People who are voting for Obama are voting for him for rational reasons (even if we don't like the reasoning).

re: #143 Edgar

Ok, so the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" must be a republic and democracy then, too.

Right?

Yes, they are. In North Korea people vote for who their representative will be. The process of selecting a range of candidates to vote for is completely undemocratic, but that doesn't say anything about the actual structure of their government.

If you honestly don't think Fascists and National Socialist were Leftist revolutionaries you have absolutely no concept of even relatively recent history.

Musolini abolished competition by monopolizing industry, and then socialized them by putting Party "controllers" in charge of 'oversight'. The entire economy of Italy was planned and directed. There was practically no free market.

Nazi Germany was even more complete in its gutting of all concepts of a free market and was vehemently anti-Capitalist. Stalin's Russia in the same time period had a larger free, non-socialized market than Nazi Germany.

Hitler, and Musolini belong in the same camp as Stalin and Mao as being Marxist inspired dictators.

I've seen enough of your posts to know that you are a troll though, so I don't know why I bother.

re: #237 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I AM GOING TO TYPE IN ANNOYING CAPS TO GET THIS POINT ACROSS.

DON'T START THIS STUFF WITH EDGAR. IN THE LEAST, HE COMES ON HERE TO HIGHJACK THE THREADS, IN THE MOST, HE IS TROLLING FOR COMMENTS THAT HE CAN CLIP AND PASTE AND USE AGAINST CONSERVATIVES (OR OTHER LIBERALS WILL USE AGAINST US).

JUST GAZE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR HIM RIGHT NOW. AND YES EDGAR, THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST POST FROM ME ABOUT YOU ON THEIS THREAD, YOU'RE NOT WORTH ANY MORE OF MY TIME.

That's all.

Walter, this is a serious question: do you want an echo chamber here, or not?

re: #198 tfc3rid
Yes.

re: #231 jwb7605

I think so.
He might not realize it at the moment, but that would be the end result of his decision(s).

I give you Jimmy Carter as my best example.

I get the very strong impression that Barry & Michelle think that we need to be punished for our wickedness.
They would view terrorists as an instrument of the cleansing.

re: #8 Junior

CNN's report on this last night was extraordinarily out of character. My wife just tuned into the concept of media bias this election. She voiced her surprise at the content of the report first.

Then she noticed Anderson Cooper trying to play trying to down play the Ayers-Obama connection after the piece ran. I figure the investigative reporter who did the piece is not long for that particular network.

re: #175 DeafDog

Very true, but I think he can make these points with or without the "S" word.

Americans understand the word socialist and they don't like it.

/William Ayers and his wife, not so much, and McCain's way behind right now with 28 days to go

re: #241 Sharmuta

He wants to talk to Iran- who is the largest funder of terrorism in the world.

What part of this don't you grasp?

Negotiating doesn't mean supporting. I am against both. But they're not the same thing.

re: #212 karmic_inquisitor

OT: Memory Hole opens wide - NBC purges SNL skit on Democrats.

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

Hot Air has screen shots...

re: #237 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I AM GOING TO TYPE IN ANNOYING CAPS TO GET THIS POINT ACROSS.

DON'T START THIS STUFF WITH EDGAR. IN THE LEAST, HE COMES ON HERE TO HIGHJACK THE THREADS, IN THE MOST, HE IS TROLLING FOR COMMENTS THAT HE CAN CLIP AND PASTE AND USE AGAINST CONSERVATIVES (OR OTHER LIBERALS WILL USE AGAINST US).

JUST GAZE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR HIM RIGHT NOW. AND YES EDGAR, THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST POST FROM ME ABOUT YOU ON THEIS THREAD, YOU'RE NOT WORTH ANY MORE OF MY TIME.

That's all.

YOU GOT IT, CHIEF.

re: #234 Edgar

He's good friends of Ayers. Sorry your point doesn't work.

Officials: Plane Forced to Land in Iran Was Hungarian

Reportedly on Sept. 30th.

re: #246 MandyManners

I DIDN'T CALL YOU A PEDOPHILE. QUIT LYING.

Something tells me Mandy is beginning to regret writing that slur...

re: #243 Adrenalyn

OK, no more coffee for you. (-:

But I think your right.

Even if Obama doesn't overtly support terrorism, he would never go after the terrorists as strong as Bush did at the beginning of his term. He took the fight to the terrorists rather than wait for them to strike us here.