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US Shelves Iran Diplomatic Outpost

World | Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:41:50 am PDT

Last weekend the Bush administration quietly abandoned plans to send diplomats to Iran.

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration has shelved plans to set up a diplomatic outpost in Iran, in part over fears it could affect the U.S. presidential race or be interpreted as political meddling, The Associated Press has learned.

The proposal to send U.S. diplomats to Tehran for the first time in three decades attracted great attention when it was first floated seriously over the summer but has now been placed on indefinite hold as November’s election nears and Iran continues to defy demands to halt suspect nuclear activities, officials told the AP.

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1 Egfrow  10/07/08 10:43:01 am reply quote

Doesn't Bush know he's supposed to sit down and talk with Iran without preconditions? What's wrong with him?

2 lifeofthemind  10/07/08 10:43:37 am reply quote

Don't want to complicate the target anyway.

3 Rednek  10/07/08 10:44:23 am reply quote

Good.

That means there won't be anyone who needs to be evacuated when the bombs start to fall.

4 vxbush  10/07/08 10:44:57 am reply quote

Personally, I'd call this good news. I don't think we need to lend any legitimacy to the Iranian government.

5 jorline  10/07/08 10:46:09 am reply quote

Abandon Fort Apache.

6 ladycatnip  10/07/08 10:46:22 am reply quote

Good.

7 RTLM  10/07/08 10:46:43 am reply quote

Aren't the Euros already there?

8 unreconstructed rebel  10/07/08 10:46:43 am reply quote

Yeah. Let the hostage-taking take place on Oflama's watch.

9 opnion  10/07/08 10:46:44 am reply quote

re: #4 vxbush

Personally, I'd call this good news. I don't think we need to lend any legitimacy to the Iranian government.


I agree with that. It is in our interest to isolate Iran, but Russia & others don't want to go that way.

10 Kosh's Shadow  10/07/08 10:47:17 am reply quote

Couldn't find any diplomats who wanted to get nuked.
Maybe they should have checked with the ISM.

11 JSK1121  10/07/08 10:47:44 am reply quote

re: #7 RTLM

Aren't the Euros already there?

Bang up job they've done thus far, trying to finish the job Herr Adolph couldn't.

12 wrl1984  10/07/08 10:48:11 am reply quote

Best news I have heard all day!

13 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 10:48:22 am reply quote

But, but, I thought Bush was now humbly doing whatever Obama told him to do? That's what Obama and Biden said!

14 JammieWearingFool  10/07/08 10:48:39 am reply quote

Obama will send Secretary of State Ayers over to talk some sense into them.

15 JSK1121  10/07/08 10:48:40 am reply quote

re: #8 unreconstructed rebel

Yeah. Let the hostage-taking take place on Oflama's watch.

I wouldn't wish 4 years of being hostage to animals on anyone...and you know that would be exactly the way Obama would handle it too, just like Jimmah.

16 Adrenalyn  10/07/08 10:48:46 am reply quote

Last weekend the Bush administration quietly abandoned plans to send diplomats Hostages to Iran


fixed that for you

17 lifeofthemind  10/07/08 10:48:53 am reply quote

For that matter I'd consider pulling all US forces out of Seoul and at least 50 miles from the DMZ.

At this point they protect the Norks as much as the Roks. If we pulled out of artillery range the North might implode in panic.

18 tfc3rid  10/07/08 10:48:54 am reply quote

We've got to sit down and really see what is getting at Ahdaminejhad... I mean, perhaps he is just angry at the price of arrugala... He can't be serious in his calls for the destruction of Israel...

/ObamaNation

19 opnion  10/07/08 10:49:23 am reply quote

let's see, American Diplomats in Iran. I would guess that the government would sponsor a bunch of yoots to take them hostage, just to gin up, 'Hate America Day."

20 Rednek  10/07/08 10:50:30 am reply quote

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

Obama will send Secretary of State Ayers over to talk some sense into them.

Wrong!
Ayers will be secretary of Education.

21 Adrenalyn  10/07/08 10:50:48 am reply quote

re: #19 opnion

let's see, American Diplomats in Iran. I would guess that the government would sponsor a bunch of yoots to take them hostage, just to gin up, 'Hate America Day."

under 0bama administration we could match that with a "hate whitey" day, led by Secretary of State Jeremiah Wright

22 pre-Boomer Marine brat  10/07/08 10:50:59 am reply quote

Besides, where would the delegation be housed? Where would it work out of?

The old American Embassy is now used as the Tehran headquarters for the Revolutionary Guards' Qods Force -- not just the Revolutionary Guards, but the QODS Force, for crying out loud!

23 ErnieG  10/07/08 10:51:01 am reply quote

This is silly. I am sure that there are ways of communicating with the Iranians without having a diplomatic mission that could be exploited for propaganda purposes or held hostage.

24 experiencedtraveller  10/07/08 10:51:23 am reply quote

re: #17 lifeofthemind

Most US Forces have already moved away from the Korean DMZ.

25 unreconstructed rebel  10/07/08 10:51:28 am reply quote

re: #19 opnion

.. yoots to take them hostage ...

Who knows. One day one of them may be president.

26 Desert Dog  10/07/08 10:51:50 am reply quote

Won't matter, if the One gets elected, he will re-open the US Embassy and start the "ass-kissing, we are so sorry" spiel asap. Because, as you all know, it is best to sit down and talk with a group of "no good lying out their turbans dishonest plies of camel crap". I am certain that once Obama meets with the Mad Mullahs, all will be right in the world once again. The darkness will end, the birds will sing, rainbows and unicorns will abound....That is, until the same guys Obama just met with and got from assurances from decides to hasten the arrival of the hidden iman and send a few missiles over to Tel Aviv and start World War 3.

27 MandyManners  10/07/08 10:52:27 am reply quote

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

Obama will send Secretary of State Ayers over to talk some sense into them.

I thought Ayers was to head the Dept. of Education.

28 bosforus  10/07/08 10:52:28 am reply quote

Plans for opening talks with Iran were canceled after diplomats raised concerns upon learning that the tickets were one-way.
/

29 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 10:52:37 am reply quote

I propose we send these diplomats to Iran, equipped with laser target designators.

30 Adrenalyn  10/07/08 10:53:32 am reply quote

also, under 0Bama

the US Navy would be renamed
"The Floating Department of Peace"
and "warships" would be renamed "peaceships"
and all names would be changed from patriotic names like
CVN Reagan to IS Guevara
USS Intrepid to IS Surrender

(footnote, IS is short for Islamic State)

31 Rednek  10/07/08 10:53:54 am reply quote

re: #21 Adrenalyn

under 0bama administration we could match that with a "hate whitey" day, led by Secretary of State Jeremiah Wright

Wrong!

Jeremiah Wright will head the Department of Veterans Affairs.

32 Tumulus11  10/07/08 10:54:18 am reply quote

. Ambassador Trident will arrive in his own good time.

33 ROPMA  10/07/08 10:54:28 am reply quote

No diplomacy will work with Iran unless there is a "We'll kick your ass if you don't " clause involved.

34 Adrenalyn  10/07/08 10:54:49 am reply quote

re: #31 Rednek

Wrong!

Jeremiah Wright will head the Department of Veterans Affairs.

oh, I dunno Lucy (said in a Ricky Ricardo voice)
I think that should go to Jane Fonda

35 bulwrk  10/07/08 10:56:29 am reply quote

re: #30 Adrenalyn

The USS Jimmy Carter,oh wait.

36 Adrenalyn  10/07/08 10:57:20 am reply quote

re: #35 bulwrk

The USS Jimmy Carter,oh wait.

ok, you got me
I have been bested
and bow my head in acknowledgement of a smarter being
with a flourishing UPDING for you dear poster

37 Kosh's Shadow  10/07/08 10:57:24 am reply quote

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

Obama will send Secretary of State Ayers over to talk some sense into them.

And then Iran launches and it fails, landing on Ahmdmanonjihad and Ayers. Two terrorists hoist by their own petard. Great.

38 lifeofthemind  10/07/08 10:57:42 am reply quote

re: #10 Kosh's Shadow

Couldn't find any diplomats who wanted to get nuked.
Maybe they should have checked with the ISM.

We do not need to hear the telephone melt.

39 Rednek  10/07/08 10:57:59 am reply quote

OT

Here is the President's cabinet.

Fill in the blanks for the Obama administration:

Secretary of State _____
Secretary of the Treasury _____
Secretary of Defense _____
Attorney General _____
Secretary of the Interior _____
Secretary of Agriculture _____
Secretary of Commerce _____
Secretary of Labor _____
Secretary of Health and Human Services _____
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development _____
Secretary of Transportation _____
Secretary of Energy _____
Secretary of Education _____
Secretary of Veterans Affairs _____
Secretary of Homeland Security _____

40 Desert Dog  10/07/08 10:59:00 am reply quote

I think whoever wins the election should go down to the National Cathedral every Friday with his cabinet and some leaders from the Congress and the Justices of the Supreme Court and chant, over and over again, "DEATH TO IRAN". Of course, we should televise it and encourage the people that could not attend to have their own personal "Death to Iran" chants at home, you know with Grandma and Uncle Bob and the neighbors. Let's make it a weekly occurrence and broadcast it to the world so everybody knows how we feel about Iran. Then, we can sit in stunned amazement when the Iranians are mad at us and do not want to meet us, you know, face to face, without preconditions. We should also add that we consider them scum of the earth and let them know they are a rotten corpse and will soon disappear.

41 Globular Cluster  10/07/08 10:59:01 am reply quote

New movie: The Third Jihad taken off of youtube.

Pathetic

[Link: muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com...]

42 ErnieG  10/07/08 10:59:35 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

OT

Here is the President's cabinet.

Fill in the blanks for the Obama administration:

Secretary of State _____
Secretary of the Treasury _____
Secretary of Defense _____
Attorney General _____
Secretary of the Interior _____
Secretary of Agriculture _____
Secretary of Commerce _____
Secretary of Labor _____
Secretary of Health and Human Services _____
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development _____
Secretary of Transportation _____
Secretary of Energy _____
Secretary of Education _____
Secretary of Veterans Affairs _____
Secretary of Homeland Security _____

Charles! This needs its own thread!

43 vxbush  10/07/08 10:59:57 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

I only got a few.

OT

Here is the President's cabinet.

Fill in the blanks for the Obama administration:

Secretary of State _____ Nancy Pelosi
Secretary of the Treasury _____ Barney Frank
Secretary of Defense _____ Wesley Clark
Attorney General _____ Hillary Clinton
Secretary of the Interior _____ Jeremiah Wright
Secretary of Agriculture _____
Secretary of Commerce _____ Franklin Raines
Secretary of Labor _____ Senator Reid
Secretary of Health and Human Services _____
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development _____ Michelle Obama
Secretary of Transportation _____
Secretary of Energy _____
Secretary of Education _____ William Ayers
Secretary of Veterans Affairs _____
Secretary of Homeland Security _____

44 Kosh's Shadow  10/07/08 11:00:00 am reply quote

re: #31 Rednek

Wrong!

Jeremiah Wright will head the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Bill Clinton will head the Department of Intern Affairs.
/couldn't resist

45 Adrenalyn  10/07/08 11:00:24 am reply quote

re: #42 ErnieG

I second the motion!
own thread.....

46 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 11:00:54 am reply quote

And it's looking like another bad day on the Street of the Wall.

47 vxbush  10/07/08 11:01:07 am reply quote

re: #45 Adrenalyn

I second the motion!
own thread.....

Darn, and here I did all this work....
/

48 Kosh's Shadow  10/07/08 11:01:41 am reply quote

re: #40 Desert Dog

I think whoever wins the election should go down to the National Cathedral every Friday with his cabinet and some leaders from the Congress and the Justices of the Supreme Court and chant, over and over again, "DEATH TO IRAN". Of course, we should televise it and encourage the people that could not attend to have their own personal "Death to Iran" chants at home, you know with Grandma and Uncle Bob and the neighbors. Let's make it a weekly occurrence and broadcast it to the world so everybody knows how we feel about Iran. Then, we can sit in stunned amazement when the Iranians are mad at us and do not want to meet us, you know, face to face, without preconditions. We should also add that we consider them scum of the earth and let them know they are a rotten corpse and will soon disappear.

I'd join that chant. But only because Iran has been calling for the deaths of Israel and the US.

49 lawhawk  10/07/08 11:01:45 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

OT

Here is the President's cabinet.

Fill in the blanks for the Obama administration:

Secretary of State Bill Ayers
Secretary of the Treasury Barney Frank
Secretary of Defense Peace Denis Kucinich
Attorney General Jamie Gorelick
Secretary of the Interior _____
Secretary of Agriculture _____
Secretary of Commerce George Soros
Secretary of Labor _____
Secretary of Health and Human Services _____
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Andrew Cuomo
Secretary of Transportation Patrick Kennedy
Secretary of Energy _____
Secretary of Education Bernadine Dohrn
Secretary of Veterans Affairs John Kerry
Secretary of Homeland Security _____

50 bulwrk  10/07/08 11:01:46 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

Secretary of Education Bill Ayers Under Secretary Ward Churchill

51 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 11:01:51 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

Secretary of Agriculture: Cheech Marin

52 Ben Hur  10/07/08 11:01:54 am reply quote
suspect nuclear activities

NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

53 realwest  10/07/08 11:02:26 am reply quote

re: #5 jorline
Hey my friend - abandon hell - never set it up, 54 hostages for 444 days once was about all I could take of that shit.

54 vxbush  10/07/08 11:02:35 am reply quote

re: #49 lawhawk

Oh, good choices. We might have to have them duke it out for pre-eminence.

55 Cap'n DOC  10/07/08 11:02:40 am reply quote

re: #41 Globular Cluster

Ummm. I wouldn't legitimize that site if I were you. They are not what they seem to be.

56 lawhawk  10/07/08 11:02:46 am reply quote

re: #51 Occasional Reader

I thought that Tommy Chong might be a better fit.

57 Outrider  10/07/08 11:03:30 am reply quote
The Bush administration has shelved plans to set up a diplomatic outpost in Iran, in part over fears it could affect the U.S. presidential race or be interpreted as political meddling,


Political meddling? Interesting choice of words being used to describe an action taken by the POTUS. Or has he at this point essentially declared himself a lame duck?

58 pre-Boomer Marine brat  10/07/08 11:03:40 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

OT

Here is the President's cabinet.

Fill in the blanks for the Obama administration:

Secretary of State _____
Secretary of the Treasury _____
Secretary of Defense _____
Attorney General _____
Secretary of the Interior _____
Secretary of Agriculture _____
Secretary of Commerce _____
Secretary of Labor _____
Secretary of Health and Human Services - Barney Frank
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development _____
Secretary of Transportation _____
Secretary of Energy _____
Secretary of Education _____
Secretary of Veterans Affairs _____
Secretary of Homeland Security _____

59 JacksonTn  10/07/08 11:04:23 am reply quote

re: #43 vxbush

I only got a few.

Donna Brazile will be Press Secretary (Department of Propaganda)

60 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 11:04:27 am reply quote
Secretary of Homeland Security _____

To be abolished.

61 realwest  10/07/08 11:04:29 am reply quote

re: #18 tfc3rid
Well he surely can't be all that pleased with the price of arrugala goin' up and the price of oil dropping like a rock!
Speaking of which, hasn't Hugo been kinda quiet all of a sudden?!

62 So?  10/07/08 11:04:54 am reply quote

I think he should send diplomatic bunker busters instead.

63 Ward Cleaver  10/07/08 11:06:16 am reply quote

What, no tough direct talks?

/

64 bulwrk  10/07/08 11:06:24 am reply quote

Secretary of Agriculture Mr Hank Kimball

65 realwest  10/07/08 11:06:49 am reply quote

re: #46 Occasional Reader
Hey O.R. - do you know what the current quote is on Oil?

66 sawblade88  10/07/08 11:06:51 am reply quote

re: #20 Rednek

re: #27 MandyManners

I thought Ayers was to head the Dept. of Education.

Perhaps it will be the Department of Reeducation.

67 Cap'n DOC  10/07/08 11:06:52 am reply quote

re: #62 So?

Goat Butter.

68 alegrias  10/07/08 11:07:34 am reply quote

What's up with the Iranians forcing down a Hungarian plane, after claiming it was an American plane? Was breaking news today.

69 pegcity  10/07/08 11:08:04 am reply quote

condi is probably pissed.

70 Ben Hur  10/07/08 11:08:06 am reply quote

The great de-schlep-tion

"A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can even get its boots on," Mark Twain reportedly once said. Perhaps that concept explains the strategy behind the breathtaking dishonesty of the latest propaganda pieces disseminated by Barack Obama's most vocal Jewish supporters.

71 taxfreekiller  10/07/08 11:08:27 am reply quote

OT

Nacho Ramos's father in law says there will be a resentencing of Ramos
Nov. 13 in El Paso, it is in relation to a charge that the atty's got thrown out. Its at 9:00 am .

This is from a personal phone call to some others, not on the blog yet.

Any lgf's in the El Paso area come out to support Ramos at the Fed. Court house. Nov. 13, 2008 , Fed. Court House , El Paso.

[Link: agentramos.blogspot.com...]

72 pre-Boomer Marine brat  10/07/08 11:08:53 am reply quote

re: #68 alegrias

What's up with the Iranians forcing down a Hungarian plane, after claiming it was an American plane? Was breaking news today.

BBC

73 realwest  10/07/08 11:09:16 am reply quote

re: #68 alegrias
Haven't heard anything more about that plane being forced down in Iran, other than it was flying very low, but not below the level of Iran's radar.
Hmmmmm. Wonder how low it was?!

74 rawmuse  10/07/08 11:09:58 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

OT

Here is the President's cabinet.

Fill in the blanks for the Obama administration:

Secretary of State _____ LOUIS FARAKHAN
Secretary of the Treasury _____ MARION BARRY
Secretary of Defense _____ MUMIA AL JAMAL
Attorney General _____ CYNTHIA McKINNEY
Secretary of the Interior _____ DUMPSTER MUFFIN
Secretary of Agriculture _____ PETA
Secretary of Commerce _____ OPRAH
Secretary of Labor _____ RAUL CASTRO
Secretary of Health and Human Services _____ RU PAUL
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development _____ KWAZE MFUME
Secretary of Transportation _____ LUDICRIS
Secretary of Energy _____ GEORGE CLINTON
Secretary of RE-Education _____ WILLIAM AYERS
Secretary of Veterans Affairs _____ CINDY SHEEHAN
Secretary of Homeland Security _____ ADAM GADAHN

75 realwest  10/07/08 11:10:24 am reply quote

Ok y'all said it on last thread, but now I gotta go eat some lunch!
I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

76 unreconstructed rebel  10/07/08 11:10:50 am reply quote

re: #73 realwest

Haven't heard anything more about that plane being forced down in Iran, other than it was flying very low, but not below the level of Iran's radar.
Hmmmmm. Wonder how low it was?!

Iran has radar? Coupla thou sharp-eared goats, maybe. But Radar?

77 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 11:11:10 am reply quote

re: #65 realwest

Hey O.R. - do you know what the current quote is on Oil?

$89.35. Up a little today.

78 Wishing  10/07/08 11:11:51 am reply quote

re: #44 Kosh's Shadow

Bill Clinton will head the Department of Intern Affairs.
/couldn't resist

ROFL

79 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 11:12:03 am reply quote
Secretary of the Interior _____

P. Diddy. He'll make sure there are crackheads in all 57 states.

80 pre-Boomer Marine brat  10/07/08 11:12:08 am reply quote

The plane forced down by Iran turned out to be something of a "non-event". See the link to BBC in my #72.

81 Wishing  10/07/08 11:13:12 am reply quote

re: #65 realwest

Hey O.R. - do you know what the current quote is on Oil?

Oil: $88.65

82 Nevergiveup  10/07/08 11:13:14 am reply quote

re: #80 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The plane forced down by Iran turned out to be something of a "non-event". See the link to BBC in my #72.

I wonder how much of a "non-event" it was to the terrified Hungarians in that plane?

83 Nevergiveup  10/07/08 11:13:39 am reply quote

re: #81 Wishing

Oil: $88.65

Almost free!

84 OldLineTexan  10/07/08 11:13:48 am reply quote

I see a downward trend in LGF oil prices.

85 JacksonTn  10/07/08 11:13:50 am reply quote

Google doing web archive thing for their 10th year anniversary. Wonder if it is the real archive. Anyway, I am seeing what was up on Obama back then. Some websites like his 2000 election site will not come up but some things will.

[Link: www.google.com...]

86 alegrias  10/07/08 11:14:13 am reply quote

re: #72 pre-Boomer Marine brat

87 So?  10/07/08 11:15:05 am reply quote

Secretary of State _____Matt Damon
Secretary of the Treasury _____Whoopi Goldberg
Secretary of Defense _____Leonardo DiCaprio
Attorney General _____Forest Whitaker
Secretary of the Interior _____Jennifer Aniston
Secretary of Agriculture _____Jamie Foxx
Secretary of Commerce _____Tobey Maguire
Secretary of Labor _____Usher
Secretary of Health and Human Services _____Natalie Portman
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development _____
Secretary of Transportation _____Kate Bosworth
Secretary of Energy _____Halle Berry
Secretary of Education _____Ellen DeGeneres
Secretary of Veterans Affairs _____Ashton Kutche
Secretary of Homeland Security _____Dustin Hoffman

88 Wishing  10/07/08 11:15:19 am reply quote

re: #83 Nevergiveup

Almost free!

We are still a bit short on gas here in the southeast..and i still dont quite undeerstand why.

89 Occasional Reader  10/07/08 11:16:08 am reply quote

re: #87 So?

Secretary of Health and Human Services _____Natalie Portman

I knew there'd be a silver lining somewhere.

90 pre-Boomer Marine brat  10/07/08 11:16:26 am reply quote

re: #82 Nevergiveup

I wonder how much of a "non-event" it was to the terrified Hungarians in that plane?

Well, yeah, of course. I was referring to the initial heavy breathing out of Iran, which said it was American with 5 generals aboard.

/que video of 487 rockets being launched en masse

91 alegrias  10/07/08 11:16:38 am reply quote

re: #88 Wishing

We are still a bit short on gas here in the southeast..and i still dont quite undeerstand why.

* * *
Weren't your oil refineries forced to shut down operations during the recent hurricane activities? That would slow supply.

92 taxfreekiller  10/07/08 11:17:01 am reply quote

Jimmy Carter and Obama, the same, both of them have no idea they are as dumb as a box of rocks, never will know it.

93 lifeofthemind  10/07/08 11:17:15 am reply quote

Ayers and his friends are serious people, they play with fluffy things like education because it is a safe place to hide out and build strength but what they hunger for is real power. Now that they are close they can taste it. Whoever gets Education accepts it for the ability to divert money and hire cadres but that is a side project. To the true vanguards the prize slots are Justice, Treasury and Homeland Security. If they were driven to form a coalition in a Parliamentary system they'd always keep those and give up Education, HHS and Transportation. They believe in controling the police power.

94 tfc3rid  10/07/08 11:17:31 am reply quote

Would Mumia be pardoned under President Obama?

95 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  10/07/08 11:18:20 am reply quote

re: #39 Rednek

OT


Here is the President's cabinet.


Fill in the blanks for the Obama administration:


Secretary of State _____

Secretary of the Treasury


Secretary of Defense _____

Position abolished

Attorney General _____

Ramsey Clark

Secretary of the Interior _____

Secretary of Agriculture _____

Secretary of Commerce _____

Secretary of Labor _____

Secretary of Health and Human Services _____

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development _____

Franklin Raines

Secretary of Transportation _____

Secretary of Energy _____

Secretary of Education _____

William Ayers

Secretary of Veterans Affairs _____

Jane Fonda

Secretary of Homeland Security _____

Ray Nagin

96 Wishing  10/07/08 11:18:21 am reply quote

re: #91 alegrias

* * *
Weren't your oil refineries forced to shut down operations during the recent hurricane activities? That would slow supply.

Well, it still makes no sense though: some stations had only Premium, some stations had only regular and some had only diesel. An odd showing if refineries were closed. I think 3 of about 1000 refineries were damaged in Ike, but we are still recovering from that in TN.

97 So?  10/07/08 11:18:51 am reply quote

re: #94 tfc3rid

Would Mumia be pardoned under President Obama?

No!

Only Ma Mumia

98 Nevergiveup  10/07/08 11:19:11 am reply quote

re: #94 tfc3rid

Would Mumia be pardoned under President Obama?

Or will the Cubs just be "Appointed" baseball champions?

99 pre-Boomer Marine brat  10/07/08 11:19:16 am reply quote

re: #84 OldLineTexan

I see a downward trend in LGF oil prices.

LGF oil?

Is that similar to East Texas Crude?

/not possible ... and I'm sure YOU know what I mean

100 NomadOfNorad  10/07/08 11:19:26 am reply quote

Anyone but me watching W appearing live on FNC right now?

101 taxfreekiller  10/07/08 11:19:31 am reply quote

Sec. of Defense,,, John Murtha
Sec. of Lies and Fraud,,,, Lt. for life John F. Kerry

102 Kosh's Shadow  10/07/08 11:19:38 am reply quote

Secretary of Energy The Environment: Al Gore

103 rawmuse  10/07/08 11:20:13 am reply quote

re: #94 tfc3rid

Would Mumia be pardoned under President Obama?

The Presidential power of Pardon is not subject to veto, or limited to offense. It could happen.

104 Nevergiveup  10/07/08 11:20:16 am reply quote

re: #100 NomadOfNorad

Anyone but me watching W appearing live on FNC right now?

I tried. I really did.

105 Wishing  10/07/08 11:20:24 am reply quote

re: #100 NomadOfNorad

To be honest, I didnt have the ehart to listen to him. He needs to just stay home.

106 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  10/07/08 11:20:36 am reply quote

re: #86 alegrias

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Thank you. Before Jimmy Carter turned this country over to lunatics,
there were Iranian military pilots who worked with us, lived in the USA, flew planes in Vietnam on the side of Uncle Sam.

Democrats turned Iran from stalwart friend into Global Foe Number One.

Just another thing I will never forgive nor forget dems did to our country.

Still can't find any sources that Iranian Air Force pilots fought in Vietnam. I did find out that Iranian soldiers fought with the British against the Communist insurrection in Oman in the 1970s.

107 Mad Mullah  10/07/08 11:21:09 am reply quote

If the community organizer were to win, he's probably going to invite the vile, delusional idiot called Ahmadinejad along with his rag clad wife to sleep over at the White House. A residence which certain fanatical, racist Obama supporters have now dubbed "The Black House".

After Ahmadinejad's talk with Obama, Iran will completely change their perverted minds and they will no longer seek to wipe out the rotten Zionist entity. Obama will eventually manage to convince Ahmadinejad that at least 92 Jews actually did die in the holocaust, forcing Ahmadinejad and Iran to only doubt the other millions of Jews that supposedly perished in the holocaust. Their meeting will be reported as a huge success according to the highly respectable and unbiased MSM, which will be drooling all over every word that the community organizer speaks. Ahmadinejad will state that he has been shown the light by the "Messiah known as Barry" and that his country no longer will murder gay people, finance and support terrorists or seek the destruction of their neighbors. Obama will also convince Iran to abandon their nuclear ambitions, by promising to dismantle every single nuclear weapon currently in the US arsenal.

Michelle Obama and Ahmadinejad's rag clad wife will discuss various topics, including what's going on in the burkha front, whitey, the newest technological innovations in dildo manufacturing and how to get around town when 90% of your peripheral vision is obstructed.

108 stuiec  10/07/08 11:21:09 am reply quote

NATO chief: I'm not positive Iran can be stopped

In what is seen as a rare statement of support for Israel, NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said Monday that there was no reason for Israel to surrender its alleged nuclear capabilities in the face of Iran's continued race towards nuclear power.

Speaking at a conference in France, Scheffer said he did not believe the international community would be able to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb.

"I am not positive about the world being able to stop Iran from fulfilling its ambitions," he was quoted as saying.

"It is a major challenge to prevent Iran from continuing to strive to get the bomb," Scheffer said, adding that his concern was "that the Security Council, as we speak, is rather incapable of coming to further conclusions on further sanctions."

As a result, Scheffer said there was no reason for Israel to give up its supposed nuclear capability. According to foreign media reports, Israel has an arsenal o