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Simon: Blacklisting Myself

Entertainment | Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:38:18 am PDT

Roger Simon has a new book coming out in January, and he emails that it says nice things about yours truly—but not-so-nice things about Tinseltown: Blacklisting Myself: Memoir of a Hollywood Apostate in the Age of Terror: Roger L. Simon.

More at PJ Media: Don’t judge a book by its cover - except this time!

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1 Edgar  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:40:34am

New media destroying Hollywood?

Can't wait.

2 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:41:34am
Simon: Blacklisting Myself

"Racist tint!"

-Associated Press

3 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:42:30am
Simon: Blacklisting Myself

Well. That's calling a spade a spade.

4 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:42:55am

not much of an idea of what the book entails from the sparse deatils on amazon. the concept looks interesting though!

5 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:43:56am

I've written off so many hollyweird people, it's hard to watch any tv or a movie these days.
I won't support them.

6 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:44:03am

Customers who bought this item also bought:


The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Person... by Jerome R. Corsi
(8)$18.48
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left,... by Jonah Goldberg
(339)$18.45
Surrender Is Not an Option: Defending America at the Unit... by John Bolton
(54)
The Wicked Son: Anti-Semitism, Self-hatred, and the Jews... by David Mamet
(26)$13.57
My Grandfather's Son: A Memoir by Clarence Thomas
(304)$17.79

7 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:44:14am

I have often wondered how the conservative actors & actresses even survive in Crazywood. John Voight, Ron Silver, Robert Duvall, and the rest. I wonder how much they will work in the future.....

8 gop_patriot  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:44:33am

Sounds very good, can't wait to read it!

9 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:45:17am

Until Proven Innocent: Political Correctness and the Sham... by Stuart Taylor
(74)$7.49
The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression by Amity Shlaes
(116)$9.57
A History of the English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900 by Andrew Roberts
(43)$12.89
Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali
(266)$10.20
Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East: 17... by Michael B. Oren

10 SnakeSpit  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:45:27am

I'm sure it is about him taking a stance against the hollywood elite on such things as the war in Iraq and Obamination. Probably in the same vein as Jon Voight.

11 faraway  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:45:42am

Conservative Hollywood should move to Florida.

Call it New Hollywood.

12 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:46:13am
Blacklisting Myself details Academy Award-nominated screenwriter Roger L. Simon's odyssey from financier of the Black Panther Breakfast Program to darling of the political right. In this tale of Hollywood radical chic run amuck, Simon relates his adventures with Richard Pryor, Warren Beatty, Woody Allen and real-life Hollywood KGB officers. Among the topics covered along the way: the new blacklist for conservatives in tinseltown and how new media will destroy Hollywood as we know it.
13 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:46:23am

re: #1 Edgar

New media destroying Hollywood? Can't wait.

shake... shake... shake... press... ppppssssst... ppppssssstttt... pppssssssstt

14 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:46:29am

re: #6 MandyManners

Customers who bought this item also bought:

The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Person... by Jerome R. Corsi
(8)$18.48
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left,... by Jonah Goldberg

GOT THEM BOTH! heh. Jonah's book is great, and I am only 45 pages into it.

15 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:46:32am

I wonder if he knew Patty Hearst back in the day.

16 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:46:39am

Looks like a good book. I'll definately buy myself a copy...I may even give a few out as Christmas gifts to some of my Lefty friends who work in the industry.

17 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:47:20am

re: #11 faraway

Conservative Hollywood should move to Florida.


Call it New Hollywood.

Isn't there a Hollywood, Florida?

18 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:47:52am

re: #16 Ringo the Gringo

Looks like a good book. I'll definately buy myself a copy...I may even give a few out as Christmas gifts to some of my Lefty friends who work in the industry.

They'll love you for that?

19 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:48:21am

re: #15 MandyManners

I wonder if he knew Patty Hearst back in the day.

He's just trying to ride the coat talis of my recently released book "*Whacking* Myself - A guide to LGF"

20 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:48:27am

re: #17 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Isn't there a Hollywood, Florida?

Yeah, but since they are mostly senile and all down there, who's gonna notice?

21 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:48:41am

LOL,
Just got an email with 'new bumper stickers'.
One said, "the only difference between obama and osama is BS".

These are quite good.

22 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:48:56am

Have you all seen "An American Carol" with a few of your closest friends & family yet?

23 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:49:02am

Hmmmm.... interesting how Amazon.com doesn't seem to have the book cover image, but that blog does.

24 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:49:24am

ACORN office in Vegas raided in voter-fraud probe
Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote.

A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

No one was at the ACORN office when state agents arrived with a search warrant and began carting records and documents away.

Secretary of State spokesman Bob Walsh says ACORN is accused of submitting multiple voter registrations with false and duplicate names.

The raid comes two months after state and federal authorities formed a task force to pursue election-fraud allegations in Nevada.

25 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:49:32am

re: #22 alegrias

Have you all seen "An American Carol" with a few of your closest friends & family yet?

No, so don't start posting spoilers please!

26 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:49:36am

re: #6 MandyManners

Customers who bought this item also bought:


The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Person... by Jerome R. Corsi
(8)$18.48
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left,... by Jonah Goldberg
(339)$18.45
Surrender Is Not an Option: Defending America at the Unit... by John Bolton
(54)
The Wicked Son: Anti-Semitism, Self-hatred, and the Jews... by David Mamet
(26)$13.57
My Grandfather's Son: A Memoir by Clarence Thomas
(304)$17.79

Muahahahahahahaha!

27 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:49:44am

re: #11 faraway

Conservative Hollywood should move to Florida.

Call it New Hollywood.

Connecticut has been trying to get the movie industry up here for some time. Don't think they would like the conservative tilt though. Too bad.

28 SnakeSpit  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:49:46am

Up until last year I didn't care much for Jon Voight. I have come to respect him much more as I've listened to his political views.
His daughter still sucks.

29 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:50:53am

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

He's just trying to ride the coat talis of my recently released book "*Whacking* Myself - A guide to LGF"

*giggle*

30 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:50:54am

re: #6 MandyManners

The Wicked Son: Anti-Semitism, Self-hatred, and the Jews... by David Mamet

Is David Mamet an anti-idiotarian?

31 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:50:54am

re: #22 alegrias

Have you all seen "An American Carol" with a few of your closest friends & family yet?

Where did it finish the weekend in terms of viewers? I heard a report giving the top three but it wasn't there.

32 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:51:17am

re: #22 alegrias

Have you all seen "An American Carol" with a few of your closest friends & family yet?

Saw it on Saturday by myself, as my closest friends & family are of the left-leaning persuasion. A funny & enjoyable movie overall, even if some of the jokes didn't quite work.

33 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:51:21am

What is the New Party? One of the articles I have been digging out of google is about New Party Members winning elections this is old but lists Obama as a member of the New Party having won an election:

[Link: web.archive.org...]

In the article it talks about taking over the democratic party.

34 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:51:33am

re: #11 faraway

Conservative Hollywood should move to Florida.

Call it New Hollywood.

They should move to Jacksonville, which is where the movie industry USED to film their movies before they moved to California.

35 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:51:39am

re: #23 NomadOfNorad

Hmmmm.... interesting how Amazon.com doesn't seem to have the book cover image, but that blog does.

Isn't that the responsibility of the publisher?

36 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:51:52am

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

He's just trying to ride the coat talis of my recently released book "*Whacking* Myself - A guide to LGF"

I thought I told you that causes blindness...at least that is what the nuns said.

37 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:51:53am

re: #21 newsjunkie_ky

Hey, how are you doing?

38 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:51:55am

re: #31 Ford_Prefect

Where did it finish the weekend in terms of viewers? I heard a report giving the top three but it wasn't there.

I heard a report that theaters were actually screwing with the tickets receipts so it would not rank high?

39 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:03am
(to be published by Encounter Books in January )

Guess I won't be giving it out for Christmas after all.

40 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:08am

Sniff .... sniff, sniff .... sniff, sniff, sniff. Troll is back.

41 PISSED  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:09am

re: #28 SnakeSpit

His daughter still sucks.

doesnt make her a bad girl.... : )

I'm leaving after that one..

42 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:10am

re: #28 SnakeSpit

Voight. ............
His daughter still sucks.

I'd like to have that proven to me first hand. I would like that. I really would.

43 faraway  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:18am

New Hollywood could put up a better sign than that decrepit old "Hollywood" backdrop sign.

44 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:19am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

No, so don't start posting spoilers please!

****
I'm asking lizards if they went because I meant to go opening night to boost "An American Carol" numbers but had an eldercare crisis. Night before went to the opening of "Do As I Say" at DC's American Film Renaissance conservative film festival.

45 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:22am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

No, so don't start posting spoilers please!

Darth is Luke's father.
The Bruce Willis character is actually a ghost.
"Rosebud" is a sled.

46 shrike  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:29am

Here's a remake of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest with a democrat cast: Your text to link...

47 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:50am

re: #37 lifeofthemind

Hey, how are you doing?


Hanging in there. How are things in NYC?

48 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:52am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

No, so don't start posting spoilers please!

It was Colonel Mustard in the garden with a candle stick.
/I couldnt help myself

49 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:52:58am

re: #42 Vergeltung

I'd like to have that proven to me first hand. I would like that. I really would.

Line forms behind me.

50 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:53:05am

re: #28 SnakeSpit

Up until last year I didn't care much for Jon Voight. I have come to
respect him much more as I've listened to his political views.
His daughter still sucks.

She's starting to sound more sensible lately - she actually visited Iraq & declared the surge a success, she wants to home-school her kids & she wears a medal made after a drawing her boy made of a machine gun.

51 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:53:38am

re: #27 Ford_Prefect

Connecticut has been trying to get the movie industry up here for some time. Don't think they would like the conservative tilt though. Too bad.

Runaway production has been a major problem for Hollywood for about 20 years now. Toronto is know as Hollywood north.

And the big shots in Ca. actually fight to keep it out of other states. In the 90's, Colorado had a film commissioner who was originally from the industry in LA. It wasn't until it was too late that we realized that he was doing his best to scare production away from Colorado. We had a real robust film industry in the Denver Metro area for about 6 years until he ruined it.

And we haven't been able to get it back. These guys play for keeps.

52 PISSED  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:53:39am

re: #42 Vergeltung

Great DIRTY minds think alike!

53 SnakeSpit  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:53:46am

re: #42 Vergeltung

I'd like to have that proven to me first hand. I would like that. I really would.

I knew I'd get a few hits on that one.
I hear she has vampire teeth.

54 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:53:47am

re: #42 Vergeltung

I'd like to have that proven to me first hand. I would like that. I really would.

Actually, I'm surprised, I thought Angelina would be too skinny for you, or have too pointy a chin, or something...

55 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:53:56am

Heading to Post Office.
Later Lizards.

56 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:54:17am

re: #28 SnakeSpit

Up until last year I didn't care much for Jon Voight. I have come to respect him much more as I've listened to his political views.
His daughter still sucks.

* * *
Oh my, you must see Mr. Voight's portrayal of the previous Pope John Paul, in a made for tv show that was fantastic.

With Reagan & Margaret Thatcher, the Pope helped topple the USSR and Voight was magnificent in the role. A great quasi documentary/movie.

57 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:54:23am

re: #30 Occasional Reader

Is David Mamet an anti-idiotarian?

I have no idea.

58 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:54:28am

re: #49 Occasional Reader

Line forms behind me.

no way. I'm in front, I called it. ;P

59 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:54:31am

re: #52 PISSED

Great DIRTY minds think alike!

What makes you think it was your mind doing the thinking?

60 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:54:35am

re: #45 Occasional Reader

Darth is Luke's father.
The Bruce Willis character is actually a ghost.
"Rosebud" is a sled.

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father? That can't be - they don't even have the same name!
/Woody Boyd

61 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:54:50am

re: #32 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Saw it on Saturday by myself, as my closest friends & family are of the left-leaning persuasion. A funny & enjoyable movie overall, even if some of the jokes didn't quite work.

How did it compare to Airplane or the Naked Gun?

62 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:18am

re: #52 PISSED

Great DIRTY minds think alike!

wOOt!

63 faraway  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:22am

Maybe we should all move to Florida after Nov 4th.

Call our new town, Lizard City.

64 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:22am

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

of my recently released book "*Whacking* Myself - A guide to LGF"

I think there are other sites on the internet much more suited to that purpose than LGF.

(So I'm told, you understand)

65 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:27am

re: #30 Occasional Reader

Is David Mamet an anti-idiotarian?

Yup. He smartened up awhile back...

66 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:28am

re: #30 Occasional Reader

Is David Mamet an anti-idiotarian?

Oscar nomination for screenwritng Wag the Dog.

67 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:33am

re: #47 newsjunkie_ky

Hanging in there. How are things in NYC?

Cold, I think one side or the other is going to get over 330 electoral votes. This is a near thing though, it may not break. Did Roger Simon write this movie or Quentin Tarantino?

68 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:35am

re: #48 lifeofthemind

It was Colonel Mustard in the garden with a candle stick. /I couldnt help myself

*Whack* (with apologies to Mandy, here's your stick back)

69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:42am

re: #30 Occasional Reader

Is David Mamet an anti-idiotarian?

He published an op-ed in the LA Times (I believe) entitled "I Don't Want To Be A Brain-Dead Liberal Anymore."

70 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:53am

re: #53 SnakeSpit

I knew I'd get a few hits on that one.
I hear she has vampire teeth.

damn, that could be even better. you know what they say about pain & pleasure.........

71 PISSED  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:55:56am

re: #59 Nevergiveup

You got a point!

HERE for all to see:

[Link: www.visualpharm.com...]

72 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:56:03am

re: #27 Ford_Prefect

Connecticut has been trying to get the movie industry up here for some time. Don't think they would like the conservative tilt though. Too bad.

Heh - they could move to Valleywood!

(We sure could do with the money ...!)

73 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:56:35am

re: #54 Occasional Reader

Actually, I'm surprised, I thought Angelina would be too skinny for you, or have too pointy a chin, or something...

dude, no pointy chin worries there. also, she curvey. a little too much plastic, but heck, I ain't gonna pass.

I promise. :)

74 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:56:38am

re: #63 faraway

Maybe we should all move to Florida after Nov 4th.

Call our new town, Lizard City.

It would be the first truly green city.

75 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:56:41am

re: #38 Nevergiveup

I heard a report that theaters were actually screwing with the tickets receipts so it would not rank high?

9. "An American Carol," Vivendi Entertainment, $3,656,000, 1,639 locations, $2,231 average, $3,656,000, one week.

at least it came in ahead of :

10. "Religulous," Lionsgate, $3,409,643, 502 locations, $6,792 average, $3,428,633, one week

Can't find anything about rigged receipts.

76 SnakeSpit  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:56:55am

re: #56 alegrias

I think what soured me on Voight all these years was his role in Midnight Cowboy all those years ago. I had a hard time shaking that.

77 PISSED  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:02am

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

"*Whacking* Myself - A guide to ANGELINA JOLIE"

78 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:02am

re: #60 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father? That can't be - they don't even have the same name!
/Woody Boyd

And of course, the joke is, they do.

The good guys wanted to hide baby Luke from his father. So, they placed him the custody of his father's relatives, and gave him his father's last name. Brilliant!

These idiots deserve the Ewoks as allies.

79 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:12am

re: #17 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Isn't there a Hollywood, Florida?

There is a Hollywood, Maryland! Granted, I think they'd prefer to stay a little more "rural".

80 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:23am

re: #64 Occasional Reader

I think there are other sites on the internet much more suited to that purpose than LGF.

(So I'm told, you understand)

Would you guys get you mind out of the gutter. I'm talking about sado/machosim and you guys are getting nasty talking about mastrubation.

81 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:24am

re: #55 newsjunkie_ky

Heading to Post Office.
Later Lizards.


Going to play Post Office? Some lizards never grow up.

82 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:25am

re: #24 Outrider

ACORN office in Vegas raided in voter-fraud probe
Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote.

A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

No one was at the ACORN office when state agents arrived with a search warrant and began carting records and documents away.

Secretary of State spokesman Bob Walsh says ACORN is accused of submitting multiple voter registrations with false and duplicate names.

The raid comes two months after state and federal authorities formed a task force to pursue election-fraud allegations in Nevada.

UPI quotes a local paper as saying that some of the names used were names of former members of the Dallas Cowboys.

Was it a Landry list?

/I should flagellate myself for even THINKING of that one! *spit*

83 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:49am

re: #75 Outrider

9. "An American Carol," Vivendi Entertainment, $3,656,000, 1,639 locations, $2,231 average, $3,656,000, one week.

at least it came in ahead of :

10. "Religulous," Lionsgate, $3,409,643, 502 locations, $6,792 average, $3,428,633, one week

Can't find anything about rigged receipts.

It was on Fox and friends in the Am

84 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:53am

re: #65 experiencedtraveller

Yup. He smartened up awhile back...

David Mamet: Why I Am No Longer a 'Brain-Dead Liberal'

Love it!

85 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:57:55am

re: #33 JacksonTn

Interesting.

Check this out:
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

86 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:58:12am

re: #82 pre-Boomer Marine brat

UPI quotes a local paper as saying that some of the names used were names of former members of the Dallas Cowboys.

Was it a Landry list?

/I should flagellate myself for even THINKING of that one! *spit*

LOL!

87 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:58:53am

re: #61 DeafDog

How did it compare to Airplane or the Naked Gun?

Not close, but that's just because Airplane & The Naked Gun are both in my Top 10 Funniest Movies list. I'd give it a strong 2 1/2 out of 4 stars.

88 ErnieG  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:58:58am

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

He's just trying to ride the coat talis of my recently released book "*Whacking* Myself - A guide to LGF"

Punch line:

"I dunno, Doc. I've just been reading LGF and eating Cheese Nips"

89 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:59:03am

re: #75 Outrider

9. "An American Carol," Vivendi Entertainment, $3,656,000, 1,639 locations, $2,231 average, $3,656,000, one week.

at least it came in ahead of :

10. "Religulous," Lionsgate, $3,409,643, 502 locations, $6,792 average, $3,428,633, one week

Can't find anything about rigged receipts.

* * *
Thank you, Outrider, I was keeping fingers crossed "An American Carol"'s anti-idiotarian director Zucker would have a winner on his hands.

I'll go see it after tonight's debate.

90 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:59:17am

re: #24 Outrider

ACORN office in Vegas raided in voter-fraud probe
Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote.

A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

No one was at the ACORN office when state agents arrived with a search warrant and began carting records and documents away.

Secretary of State spokesman Bob Walsh says ACORN is accused of submitting multiple voter registrations with false and duplicate names.

The raid comes two months after state and federal authorities formed a task force to pursue election-fraud allegations in Nevada.

Outrider -

Would this also were done in OHIO. In any case, good job Nevada.

-S-

91 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:59:25am

re: #61 DeafDog

How did it compare to Airplane[...]?

It's a completely different kind of movie... altogether!

92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 11:59:49am

re: #78 Occasional Reader

And of course, the joke is, they do.

The good guys wanted to hide baby Luke from his father. So, they placed him the custody of his father's relatives, and gave him his father's last name. Brilliant!

These idiots deserve the Ewoks as allies.

Sorry, but when it comes to heroes, Luke is still a whiny bitch as far as I'm concerned. Hell, in the start of the first movie, he is bitching how he can't go to the Imperial Academy like some of his friends.

93 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:00:00pm

re: #45 Occasional Reader

Darth is Luke's father.
The Bruce Willis character is actually a ghost.
"Rosebud" is a sled.

Did Rick leave with Ilsa?

94 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:00:06pm

re: #76 SnakeSpit

I think what soured me on Voight all these years was his role in Midnight Cowboy all those years ago. I had a hard time shaking that.

* * *
Never saw it and I guess I never will. Mr. Voight said he was raised Catholic and it had helped him to have bedrock values. Perhaps he meant he wasn't corrupted by his work in the gross 1960s.

95 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:00:09pm

re: #75 Outrider

9. "An American Carol," Vivendi Entertainment, $3,656,000, 1,639 locations, $2,231 average, $3,656,000, one week.

at least it came in ahead of :

10. "Religulous," Lionsgate, $3,409,643, 502 locations, $6,792 average, $3,428,633, one week

Can't find anything about rigged receipts.

Frankly, I hope that "Religulous" tanks. From what I've heard about this movie, it's full of Christian-bashing and sacreligeous actions.

96 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:00:10pm

I wanna' know what he says about Charles.

97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:00:48pm

re: #73 Vergeltung

dude, no pointy chin worries there. also, she curvey. a little too much plastic, but heck, I ain't gonna pass.

I promise. :)

Gia - no plastic there, my man.

98 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:00:59pm

re: #90 Dr. Shalit

Outrider -

Would this also were done in OHIO. In any case, good job Nevada.

-S-

Acorn in Nevada: Voter fraud or Prostitution--either way someone is getting fucked!

99 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:01:17pm

re: #93 debutaunt

Did Rick leave with Ilsa?

No. Turned out Ilsa was a fembot sent by Dr. Evil.

100 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:01:22pm

re: #82 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Was that list for the Dry Cleaners?

101 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:01:32pm

re: #86 MandyManners

LOL!

Thank you, thank you. ... I quit following the Cowboys after they canned Landry.

/going off now to fling myself from the precipice into the Flames of Hell

102 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:01:33pm

re: #22 alegrias

Have you all seen "An American Carol" with a few of your closest friends & family yet?

Just saw that Saturday.....it was a riot. I could watch it again just to catch the sight gags I missed the first time.

103 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:01:36pm

re: #96 MandyManners

I wanna' know what he says about Charles.

Yes, I thought that was part of the point that Charles was posting, but I can't find any references in those links.

Charles, can you brag a bit and let us know?

104 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:01:44pm

re: #22 alegrias

Have you all seen "An American Carol" with a few of your closest friends & family yet?

I haven't been able to get out to see it, but I'm not sure if it even opened in Massachusetts yet. The Globe doesn't have it listed in their reviews, but then, maybe they're just hoping it will go away.

105 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:02:08pm

re: #83 Nevergiveup

It was on Fox and friends in the Am


Re: the rigged receipts for American Carol:
They want you to report it if you get one.

106 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:02:25pm

re: #72 yma o hyd

Heh - they could move to Valleywood!

(We sure could do with the money ...!)

Absolutely. And consider the proximity to NYC. It is not a bad spot for them.

107 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:02:42pm

re: #103 Walter L. Newton

Yes, I thought that was part of the point that Charles was posting, but I can't find any references in those links.

Charles, can you brag a bit and let us know?

Yeah!

108 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:02:44pm

re: #95 NomadOfNorad

Frankly, I hope that "Religulous" tanks. From what I've heard about this movie, it's full of Christian-bashing and sacreligeous actions.

Reading the publicity about the movie, he seems to mock all of the religions and their adherents. He has some serious issues spinning around in his brain pan.

109 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:03:05pm

Excuse

110 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:03:09pm

re: #96 MandyManners

I wanna' know what he says about Charles.

Y' better hope he doesn't mention YOU!

/ducking

111 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:03:20pm

re: #95 NomadOfNorad

Actually, speaking of movie take-in.... how's that awful-looking Oliver Stone hatchet-job on W Bush doing? I hope that one tanks, too...

112 gop_patriot  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:03:28pm

re: #82 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, has been under withering attack from the Republican Party for allegedly signing up unqualified voters in order to boost Democratic presidential candidate Barrack Obama.

The UPI writer misspelled Barack.

113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:03:38pm

re: #79 MrSilverDragon

There is a Hollywood, Maryland! Granted, I think they'd prefer to stay a little more "rural".

The nearby Patuxent River NAS was the filming locale for the 1999 Harrison Ford movie Random Hearts.

114 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:04:11pm

re: #105 redstateredneck

Re: the rigged receipts for American Carol:
They want you to report it if you get one.

Good find. thanks.

115 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:04:16pm

re: #87 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not close, but that's just because Airplane & The Naked Gun are both in my Top 10 Funniest Movies list. I'd give it a strong 2 1/2 out of 4 stars.


I'll wait for the DVD

116 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:04:24pm

re: #111 NomadOfNorad

Actually, speaking of movie take-in.... how's that awful-looking Oliver Stone hatchet-job on W Bush doing? I hope that one tanks, too...

It will.

117 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:04:28pm

re: #100 Cap'n DOC

Was that list for the Dry Cleaners?

Don't know about that, but ACORN's headed for the wringer.

/yeah, my grandmother had one of those

118 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:04:37pm

re: #95 NomadOfNorad

Frankly, I hope that "Religulous" tanks. From what I've heard about this movie, it's full of Christian-bashing and sacreligeous actions.

not defending Maher, as if I saw him in person I would get arrested by virtue of the action I would take. however, that being said, I heard that he attacks all religious faiths rather equally, including some nice jabs at the splodeydopes....

119 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:04:47pm

re: #98 Nevergiveup

Acorn in Nevada: Voter fraud or Prostitution--either way someone is getting fucked!

LOL! Good one!

120 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:04:52pm

Bernadine:

[Link: web.archive.org...]

On the same day, SDS convened its National Council meeting in Lexington, Kentucky with 102 delegates. Primarily, we debated the question of support for the Black Liberation Movement.

****

Black Liberation Movement - sounds a little like Black Liberation Theology or just a little too close for comfort for me.

This New Party thing I have been looking at is exactly like the takeover of the democratic party.

121 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:02pm

re: #105 redstateredneck

Re: the rigged receipts for American Carol:
They want you to report it if you get one.

That could be serious. In the "old days" that couldn't happen much since a theatre only ran one or two films in a venue. But with these multiplexes, that's easy to do, and not only will it skew attendence figures, it will cut into the take for the production company. I know folks who have broken legs for less than that.

122 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:05pm

re: #117 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Young pup. My MOM had one.

123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:06pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sorry,
but when it comes to heroes, Luke is still a whiny bitch as far as I'm
concerned. Hell, in the start of the first movie, he is bitching how he
can't go to the Imperial Academy like some of his friends.

And whining about going into Tosche Station to pick up some power convertors.

124 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:13pm

re: #51 Walter L. Newton

Runaway production has been a major problem for Hollywood for about 20 years now. Toronto is know as Hollywood north.

And the big shots in Ca. actually fight to keep it out of other states. In the 90's, Colorado had a film commissioner who was originally from the industry in LA. It wasn't until it was too late that we realized that he was doing his best to scare production away from Colorado. We had a real robust film industry in the Denver Metro area for about 6 years until he ruined it.

And we haven't been able to get it back. These guys play for keeps.

Massachusetts' problem was the local Teamster boss who considered movie production to be a slush fund for his buddies.
They got rid of him, and more movies are being made here.

125 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:22pm

A little OT, but not much:

Madonna: Sarah Palin Isn't Welcome on Tour.

Basically, Madonna says Gov. Palin can't come to her show.

When contacted, Gov. Palin said, "I can live with that."

(Well, not really, but it would have been a cool answer.)

126 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:32pm

re: #104 Kosh's Shadow

I haven't been able to get out to see it, but I'm not sure if it even opened in Massachusetts yet. The Globe doesn't have it listed in their reviews, but then, maybe they're just hoping it will go away.

* * *
I was surprised how many regular movie theaters played "An American Carol". You're right about the lefty movie reviewers--locally, the Washington Post called it an "unreviewed" movie, then trashed it!

127 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:35pm

re: #105 redstateredneck

Re: the rigged receipts for American Carol:
They want you to report it if you get one.

Isn't that a damn shame people have to let their rabid liberal beliefs intrude on their lives even to the point of sabotaging their business or workplace.

128 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:41pm

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Gia - no plastic there, my man.

are you crapping yourself? she's had plastic surgery man. chin. nose. lips. you name it.

investigate, and report back. ;)

129 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:05:51pm

re: #91 Occasional Reader

It's a completely different kind of movie... altogether!


Surely, you're mistaken.

130 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:06:07pm

re: #112 gop_patriot

The UPI writer misspelled Barack.

Barrack

He was trying to subliminally increase Bambi's credentials as Commander In Chief.

131 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:06:18pm

re: #115 DeafDog

I'll wait for the DVD

I heard there were some jabs at "The One" that were left on the cutting room floor. Hopefully they'll be on the DVD.

132 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:06:31pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

That could be serious. In the "old days" that couldn't happen much since a theatre only ran one or two films in a venue. But with these multiplexes, that's easy to do, and not only will it skew attendence figures, it will cut into the take for the production company. I know folks who have broken legs for less than that.

Fox and Friends also reported that some theaters were advertising it with an 'R' rating rather than the 'PG13' it is rated.

133 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:07:34pm

re: #118 Vergeltung

not
defending Maher, as if I saw him in person I would get arrested by
virtue of the action I would take. however, that being said, I heard
that he attacks all religious faiths rather equally, including some
nice jabs at the splodeydopes....

From what I heard, it's 80% swipes at Christians, 10% muslims, 10% Jews.

134 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:07:44pm

re: #85 Pvt Bin Jammin

Interesting.

Check this out:
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

Its about 12 or 13 paragraphs down but it says New Party Member Barack Obama was elected ....... on my original link not the discovery link.

135 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:07:44pm

re: #125 subsailor68

A little OT, but not much:

Madonna: Sarah Palin Isn't Welcome on Tour.

Basically, Madonna says Gov. Palin can't come to her show.

When contacted, Gov. Palin said, "I can live with that."

(Well, not really, but it would have been a cool answer.)

Palin: "Well, bless her heart. Now I don't have to buy a full-body condom."

136 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:07:53pm

re: #98 Nevergiveup

Acorn in Nevada: Voter fraud or Prostitution--either way someone is getting fucked!

IIRC, they serve chicken with ranch dressing there.

137 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:07:54pm

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And whining about going into Tosche Station to pick up some power convertors.

He was worried about contributing to Tatooine Warming.

Luke was progressive way before it was cool.

138 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:08:05pm

re: #118 Vergeltung

not defending Maher, as if I saw him in person I would get arrested by virtue of the action I would take. however, that being said, I heard that he attacks all religious faiths rather equally, including some nice jabs at the splodeydopes....

* * *
That's a good thing? Sorry, not all faiths are equal.

139 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:08:27pm

re: #129 DeafDog

Surely, you're mistaken.

The hand's on the other foot now, isn't it!

140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:08:27pm

re: #132 redstateredneck

Fox and Friends also reported that some theaters were advertising it with an 'R' rating rather than the 'PG13' it is rated.

It should never had gotten a PG-13 either. It's cetainly a PG movie. No real profanity, no sexual situations, no violence.

141 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:08:29pm

re: #135 MandyManners

LOL!

Okay, got me - even funnier answer.

142 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:08:43pm

re: #72 yma o hyd

Heh - they could move to Valleywood!

(We sure could do with the money ...!)

Is that where Dr. Who and Torchwood are made? My husband and daughter are huge fans and they now want to visit Cardiff.

143 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:09:09pm

re: #132 redstateredneck

Fox and Friends also reported that some theaters were advertising it with an 'R' rating rather than the 'PG13' it is rated.

That's pretty funny given that studios strive to get 'R' ratings because they sell better!

144 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:09:29pm

re: #130 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He was trying to subliminally increase Bambi's credentials as Commander In Chief.

Barrack? The implication being a garrison soldier? Not a real good thing in the Army world. And I can imagine the Marines world also.

145 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:09:54pm

re: #140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It should never had gotten a PG-13 either. It's cetainly a PG movie. No real profanity, no sexual situations, no violence.

Unless you happen to get hit in the head by a number of turnstyles ;~)

146 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:10:05pm

What did I miss? Can someone fill me in on the whole day?

147 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:10:19pm

PMF: turnstiles

148 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:10:20pm

re: #138 alegrias

* * *
That's a good thing? Sorry, not all faiths are equal.

point being, it's not just an anti-christian movie.

next......

149 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:10:24pm

re: #135 MandyManners

Palin: "Well, bless her heart. Now I don't have to buy a full-body condom."

Spot on. You know, I have heard the "full body condom" reference used in humor over the years, but I have a question. Is there really such an item?

Walter in Golden, Co.

P.S.
(and if it exists, where can I get one, I have an idea)

150 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:10:54pm

re: #133 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Those stats just don't work for me.

151 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:11:06pm

Oh crap!

PMF = PIMF!

152 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:11:20pm

re: #122 Cap'n DOC

Young pup. My MOM had one.

Do you REALLY want to go there?!?!?!

/*grin* ... born in '43

153 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:11:33pm

re: #125 subsailor68

A little OT, but not much:

Madonna: Sarah Palin Isn't Welcome on Tour.

Basically, Madonna says Gov. Palin can't come to her show.

When contacted, Gov. Palin said, "I can live with that."

(Well, not really, but it would have been a cool answer.)

What makes Madonna think Sarah Palin would waste her time at a Madonna concert?

154 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:11:41pm

re: #149 Walter L. Newton

Spot
on. You know, I have heard the "full body condom" reference used in
humor over the years, but I have a question. Is there really such an
item?

Walter in Golden, Co.

P.S.
(and if it exists, where can I get one, I have an idea)

You're taking the whole self-whacking thing a bit too far, Walter.

155 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:04pm

re: #146 WriterMom

What did I miss? Can someone fill me in on the whole day?



ACORN office in Vegas raided in voter-fraud probe

156 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:08pm

re: #146 WriterMom

What did I miss? Can someone fill me in on the whole day?

Stock down
Stocks up
Killgore still despondent about McCain
Edgar sucks
Palin wears body condom

Don't thank me, only so glad to help.

157 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:21pm

re: #146 WriterMom

What did I miss? Can someone fill me in on the whole day?

overnight thread, troll, Obama, McCain, sarah, some palin, more troll, a thing about a book, realwest went to lunch. came back. walter got us all some troll-spray, and it worked great.

how's that?

158 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:21pm
159 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:25pm

re: #149 Walter L. Newton

Years ago I lived in San Diego. There were a group of guys who'd dress up in full-body condoms (plastic bags) for Halloween. They did that because they all hung out at a place called "Dick's on the Beach."

They may still have some you could buy. :-)

160 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:28pm

re: #154 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You're taking the whole self-whacking thing a bit too far, Walter.

At least he's promoting safe self-whacking.

/?

161 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:31pm

re: #146 WriterMom

What did I miss? Can someone fill me in on the whole day?

In 34 seconds.

162 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:34pm

re: #149 Walter L. Newton

(and if it exists, where can I get one, I have an idea)

Are you going to DU or Kos?

163 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:36pm

re: #24 Outrider

ACORN office in Vegas raided in voter-fraud probe
Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote.

A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

No one was at the ACORN office when state agents arrived with a search warrant and began carting records and documents away.

Secretary of State spokesman Bob Walsh says ACORN is accused of submitting multiple voter registrations with false and duplicate names.

The raid comes two months after state and federal authorities formed a task force to pursue election-fraud allegations in Nevada.

Every ACORN office in the country should be raided and community agitators imprisoned.

164 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:42pm

re: #155 loppyd

I'm liking that link-thanks.

165 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:12:53pm

re: #149 Walter L. Newton

Spot on. You know, I have heard the "full body condom" reference used in humor over the years, but I have a question. Is there really such an item?

Walter in Golden, Co.

P.S.
(and if it exists, where can I get one, I have an idea)

Do I dare ask?

166 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:13:11pm

re: #164 WriterMom

I'm liking that link-thanks.

Anytime, love.

How is yez?

167 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:13:28pm

Body condoms and trolls-those seem to be the highlights.

Ha!

168 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:13:35pm

re: #141 subsailor68

LOL!

Okay, got me - even funnier answer.

I was raised in the South so I have years of experience with the "bless her heart" line.

169 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:13:38pm

For those interested, Dirty Harry's Place, a blog run by a conservative in Hollywood, is where I go to get my movie news & reviews.

170 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:14:04pm

re: #166 loppyd

Fantastic. Had the Zionist Hair Rays reconfigured today. Life is good.

171 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:14:17pm

re: #153 doppelganglander

What makes Madonna think Sarah Palin would waste her time at a Madonna concert?

Over-bloated ego.

172 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:14:26pm

re: #163 hazzyday

Every ACORN office in the country should be raided and community agitators imprisoned.

Attorney General Rudy Giuliani. RICO. That is all.

173 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:14:31pm

re: #169 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

For those interested, Dirty Harry's Place, a blog run by a conservative in Hollywood, is where I go to get my movie news & reviews.

looks kewl, thanks for the tip!

174 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:14:36pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

So lets sink another drink
cause itll give me time to think
If I had the chance
Id ask the world to dance

You missed a spot.

But sterling work!

175 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:14:41pm

re: #168 MandyManners

I live in Texas...got out of California years ago to save my sanity. Here in the Hill Country "Bless his/her heart" means exactly the same thing it does to you all. :-)

176 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:14:42pm

OT: I think product safety warning now need to include a "Made in China" label. Is there anything coming out of that country that is not detrimental to someones health. Or exporters there need a seal of approval to export to the US. Require them to follow some labor and safety standards.

177 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:15:01pm

re: #162 doppelganglander

Are you going to DU or Kos?

I've been abstaining for the last three months. I haven't even considered finding someone to date. Since the hernia "popped up" and then the surgery and now a little recovery time, I figured I didn't want anyone bouncing on my crotch anyway.

178 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:15:46pm
179 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:15:52pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Blacklisting Myself
--with apologies to Billy Idol and "Dancing With Myself"

In a Hollywood studio
Anywhere in film I go, go
When I speak my mind
Generally I find
I'm blacklisting myself

If it's known that you think "right"
You'll be cast out into the night
Say a single word
Different from the herd
And I'm blacklisting myself

Oh blacklisting myself
Oh blacklisting myself
Well there's jobs you lose
And your work is refused
I'll be blacklisting myself

'Mid the liberal tolerance
There's a tightrope you must dance
To get by all right
Just learn to keep quiet
Or I'll be blacklisting myself

So lets sink another drink
cause itll give me time to think
If I had the chance
Id ask the world to dance
And I'll be blacklisting myself

Oh blacklisting myself
Oh blacklisting myself
Well there's jobs you lose
And your work is refused
I'll be blacklisting myself

'Mid the liberal tolerance
There's a tightrope you must dance
To get by all right
Just learn to keep quiet
Or I'll be blacklisting myself

This life of ours is a puzzle
And it's too short to be muzzled
What I've got to say
I will say anyway
And I'll be blacklisting myself

Oh blacklisting myself
Oh blacklisting myself
What I've got to say
I will say anyway
What I've got to say
I will say anyway
What I've got to say
I will say anyway

(scat)

Blacklisting myself
Blacklisting myself
Blacklisting myself
Blacklisting myself

'Mid the liberal tolerance
There's a tightrope you must dance
To get by all right
Just learn to keep quiet
Or I'll be blacklisting myself

This life of ours is a puzzle
And it's too short to be muzzled
What I've got to say
I will say anyway
And I'll be blacklisting myself

Oh blacklisting myself
Oh blacklisting myself
What I've got to say
I will say anyway
What I've got to say
I will say anyway
What I've got to say
I will say anyway

Brilliant!

(To help out:

180 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:16:18pm
181 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:16:35pm

re: #176 hazzyday

OT: I think product safety warning now need to include a "Made in China" label. Is there anything coming out of that country that is not detrimental to someones health. Or exporters there need a seal of approval to export to the US. Require them to follow some labor and safety standards.

got that right. man, if my kids were still little little, I'd be freaking out and buying my own chemistry testing kit!

182 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:17:03pm
183 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:17:15pm

re: #139 Occasional Reader

The hand's on the other foot now, isn't it!

Damn it! You're testing my knowledge of Airplane and you made me look it up. The actual quote is:

I guess the foot's on the other hand now, isn't it Kramer?

184 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:17:27pm

re: #181 Vergeltung

got that right. man, if my kids were still little little, I'd be freaking out and buying my own chemistry testing kit!

You can buy one made in China for cheap!

185 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:18:09pm
186 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:18:37pm

re: #166 loppyd

re: #169 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #174 Occasional Reader

re: #171 MandyManners

How are you all today? Fine I hope...Looking forward to the beatdown tonight..
Boy..McCain did great yesterday..
Regards,

187 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:18:38pm

re: #184 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You can buy one made in China for cheap!

"guarranteed to detect comunist mis-management, corruption, and inefficiency!"

188 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:18:39pm

re: #169 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

For those interested, Dirty Harry's Place, a blog run by a conservative in Hollywood, is where I go to get my movie news & reviews.

Thanks for the tip. He's got some great stuff, including snippets of the Variety review of "W."

189 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:18:44pm

David Zucker is getting cheated at the box office by dishonest theater owners / staff. An American Carol is not being advertised on the marquee, the film is not being listed at the ticket booth, and is being omitted on the theater voice recordings. Tickets are sold for a different movie and patrons are told it was just an "error".

Leftwing conspiracy?

An American Carol / Fraud

We have had heard from numerous people across the country that there has been some ticket fraud when buying a ticket for An American Carol this past weekend.
Please check your ticket. If you were in fact one of those people that were "mistakenly" sold a ticket for another movie please fill out the form below. Hold on to your ticket so we can have proof.

If you have noticed other irregularities with the theatres in your area please let us know in the comment section below. For instance, Rated R film rating (when in fact we are rated PG-13), posters not being up, not being listed on the marquee, image or focus problems, sound issues, etc.

Please email us a picture of your ticket stub to fraud@americancarol.com

We are investigating.

Help the filmmakers out - go see it! Check your ticket stub to insure it says "An American Carol" so they get credit.

190 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:19:32pm

re: #177 Walter L. Newton

Mmm, TMI, I was just making a joke. But I hope you're recovering well.

191 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:19:44pm

"Obama began seeking the New Party endorsement in 1995. He had been running in a four way primary against his former boss, Senator Alice Palmer, herself a far left radical, and two other individuals. But an election law quirk gave Obama the upper hand. In order to get on the ballot, candidates had to collect signatures of voters. Printed names were not allowed. Obama challenged the petitions of his rivals and was able to get every one of them thrown off the ballot. By the time the ballot was drawn up for the 1996 election, Obama’s was the only name in the race.

Nonetheless, Obama still coveted the New Party endorsement. The New Party required candidates who received the endorsement sign a pledge of support for the party. Obama did not need to support a party that was, in effect, a front group for communists; yet he still chose to. The July issue of the New Ground noted that 15% of the New Party consisted of Democratic Socialists of America members and a good number of Committee of Correspondence members."
snip

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

192 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:19:58pm

re: #175 subsailor68

I live in Texas...got out of California years ago to save my sanity. Here in the Hill Country "Bless his/her heart" means exactly the same thing it does to you all. :-)

Don't let that flag hit the ground.

193 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:20:51pm

re: #189 Racer X

David Zucker is getting cheated at the box office by dishonest theater owners / staff. An American Carol is not being advertised on the marquee, the film is not being listed at the ticket booth, and is being omitted on the theater voice recordings. Tickets are sold for a different movie and patrons are told it was just an "error".

Leftwing conspiracy?


Help the filmmakers out - go see it! Check your ticket stub to insure it says "An American Carol" so they get credit.

Whatthefuck?

194 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:21:23pm

re: #193 MandyManners

Whatthefuck?

Zactly!

195 jorline  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:21:54pm

Stanley Kurtz on FOX this morning.

196 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:22:47pm

Ben Bernanke

Only time will tell whether his policies are right or not, but you gotta admit that he looks the part.

197 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:22:50pm

Atlanta politician hires voodoo priestess to harm her opponent!
And it aint Cynthia McKinney
I shit you not.

http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/cobb/stor ies/2008/10/06/voodoo_bad_checks.html

What is wrong with the air in Atlanta?

198 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:22:53pm

More on the ACORN bust:

The warrant was part of an ongoing investigation into suspected voter registration fraud. Employees are suspected of using false addresses or false names, including those of former Dallas Cowboys, according to the secretary of state’s office.

Troy Aikman?

199 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:22:56pm

re: #159 subsailor68


LOL... I know that place...

200 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:23:19pm

re: #192 MandyManners

Thanks so much for that link! I haven't heard that song in years.

Interesting you sent that - I live about a mile from Jimmy Rogers house here in Kerrville.

201 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:23:57pm

At last! The book I have been waiting for! OK, maybe not "at last," but soon.

When are you gonna write yours, Charles?

202 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:23:59pm

re: #198 loppyd

More on the ACORN bust:


"Is this some kind of bust?"

203 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:24:41pm

re: #198 loppyd

More on the ACORN bust:

Troy Aikman?

yeah. flags went up when Jay Novacek voted 37 times in 3 counties.....

204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:24:45pm

re: #197 Eric Cartman's Conscience

Your link messed up my browser. Everything got pushed left.

205 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:24:47pm

re: #199 Dustoff-507

Gotta ask - is it still there? I left many, many, many years ago.

206 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:24:48pm

re: #202 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Is this some kind of bust?"

"Yes, it's... very impressive."

207 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:24:52pm

re: #170 WriterMom

Fantastic. Had the Zionist Hair Rays reconfigured today. Life is good.

That is always a mood lifter!

Had my patrician WASP brows waxed to perfection yesterday. :)

208 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:25:23pm

re: #200 subsailor68

Thanks so much for that link! I haven't heard that song in years. Interesting you sent that - I live about a mile from Jimmy Rogers house here in Kerrville.

You in Kerrville? Crazy place to be during the music festival. Been there once, didn't remember much, to mcuh partying. I was told that the music was good and that I enjoy myself :)

209 jorline  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:25:27pm
210 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:25:30pm

re: #198 loppyd

More on the ACORN bust:


Troy Aikman?

Probably a down-and-out on Lance Rentzel.

211 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:25:39pm

re: #104 Kosh's Shadow

I haven't been able to get out to see it, but I'm not sure if it even opened in Massachusetts yet. The Globe doesn't have it listed in their reviews, but then, maybe they're just hoping it will go away.

I canceled my Globe subscription a few years ago when their parent company Times Co. was leaking national security secrets in the NY Times, but I occasionally see it in the lunchroom at work. I noticed that on the day that it opened last week, they had a positive review of Bill Maher's piece of crap, but no mention of An American Carol.

212 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:25:44pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Your link messed up my browser. Everything got pushed left.

On mine, his link actually runs outside the right-hand margin... never seen that happen before.

HE'S A SORCERER!

213 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:25:55pm

re: #205 subsailor68


I think so. But like you I left San Diego ( my home town)

back when Mira Mar was the Top Gun for the NAVY. 'sweet'

214 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:26:10pm
215 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:26:14pm

re: #207 loppyd

That is always a mood lifter!

Had my patrician WASP brows waxed to perfection yesterday. :)

And I had my... ok... TMI... never mind!

216 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:26:31pm

re: #212 Occasional Reader

On mine, his link actually runs outside the right-hand margin... never seen that happen before.

HE'S A SORCERER!

Push the button, Frank.

217 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:26:55pm

re: #202 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Is this some kind of bust?"

Naked Gun?

218 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:27:07pm

Just watching a clip from the View from Hot Air. What is the matter with these people? Barbara Walters says can't we all agree that there's a statute of limitations when it comes to Ayers and his past.

You know, I really, really don't want to even live in the same country as these types of people.

I think I'm going to go insane soon.

219 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:27:09pm

re: #210 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Probably a down-and-out on Lance Rentzel.

/we're gonna find out how many OLD time Cowboy fans are in the room

220 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:27:19pm
221 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:27:27pm

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

Oh yeah, the music fest is terrific. I see Rod Kennedy every once in awhile, although he's not really involved anymore.

Great music town! Once a week or so I'll sit in with groups around here. It's been interesting...I play primarily soprano sax, but the country guys are real happy to have the instrument in the mix. Even got into a duel with a fiddle player one Sunday afternoon. Too much fun!

222 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:27:33pm

re: #214 buzzsawmonkey

ACORN busted? Save the trees!

Turns out their voter registration records were a little squirrelly.

223 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:00pm

re: #216 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Push the button, Frank.

I miss those guys.

224 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:03pm

re: #210 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Probably a down-and-out on Lance Rentzel.

Terry Glenn?

225 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:11pm

What happened? I go to the Post Office and come back and LGF page jumped to the left of the screen.

226 jorline  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:14pm

re: #210 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Probably a down-and-out on Lance Rentzel.

At his age now, Lance could never do a down and out with his pants down around his ankles.

227 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:15pm
228 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:18pm

re: #222 Occasional Reader

Turns out their voter registration records were a little squirrelly.

LOL

229 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:22pm

I finally found part of his state senate record and guess who introduced a Islamic Community Day ....... Barack Hussein Obama

[Link: web.archive.org...]

Senate Sponsors:
OBAMA.

Short description:
11/1/97-ISLAMIC COMMUNITY DAY

Synopsis of Bill as introduced:
Declares November 1, 1997 to be South Shore Islamic Community
Center Day.

Last action on Bill: SESSION SINE DIE

Last action date: 99-01-12

Location: Senate

Amendments to Bill: AMENDMENTS ADOPTED: HOUSE - 0 SENATE - 0


END OF INQUIRY

230 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:35pm

Oy Gestalt! The market is taking another beating today.

231 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:46pm

re: #222 Occasional Reader

Turns out their voter registration records were a little squirrelly.

Oakay, I'll go along with that.

232 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:54pm

re: #217 loppyd

Naked Gun?

No, I'm just happy to see you.

233 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:54pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mine too?

Sorry about that...

234 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:28:55pm

re: #222 Occasional Reader


Turns out their voter registration records were a little squirrelly.


SPEW alert. My Coke just covered the keyboard! LOL

235 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:29:01pm

re: #213 Dustoff-507

You were lucky to have San Diego as your home town. I was stationed at Ballast Point out in Point Loma for years. Last place I lived was La Jolla (before it exploded in condo's etc).

236 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:29:04pm

re: #197 Eric Cartman's Conscience

Atlanta politician hires voodoo priestess to harm her opponent!
And it aint Cynthia McKinney
I shit you not.

http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro /cobb/stories/2008/10/06/voodoo_bad_chec ks.html

What is wrong with the air in Atlanta?

I knew before I clicked it was going to be Annette Kesting. She is a county commissioner in my county (thankfully not my district). I have met her and I must tell you, the woman is dumb as a stump. This tidbit at the end of the article gives you a flavor of her ways:

Her term as commissioner has been marked by unflattering financial disclosures and personal blunders. She was delinquent in paying taxes to the county in 2007 for properties she owned in Powder Springs, and was also written up for code violations on several of her properties.

Then, in February, Kesting appeared before a Marietta church and gave an inflammatory speech in which she criticized some workers at the county government headquarters. The rambling, racially tinged diatribe troubled some members at the Pleasant Grove Missionary Baptist Church, which had invited Kesting to speak at its Black History Celebration.

At a press conference several days later, Kesting blamed dirty politics and the news media for the uproar. She called it part of a conspiracy to drive her out of office.

237 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:29:29pm

re: #218 Irene NYC

I think I'm going to go insane soon.

And you live in a really fine place to go insane in. Hey, speaking of insane, do the subways still have the blind accordion players playing the accordion on the cars and begging for change?

That's what got me interested in the accordion. When I was nine, I started to take lessons and the teacher freaked out when I told him my reason. I wanted to work in the subway.

238 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:29:39pm
239 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:30:10pm

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey


Here in NYC we call squirrels "rats with big hair."

"NOPE" Rats with better PR. (-:

240 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:30:24pm

re: #210 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Probably a down-and-out on Lance Rentzel.

re: #219 pre-Boomer Marine brat

NO ,,, NOT BAMBI !

(never was a Cowboy fan ,,, but I was and am a football fan!)

241 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:31:06pm

re: #235 subsailor68


I lived in PB. I worked at Fire station 21. Next to the beach.
Ahhhhhhhh the summer days.

242 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:31:07pm
243 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:31:20pm

re: #225 newsjunkie_ky

What happened? I go to the Post Office and come back and LGF page jumped to the left of the screen.


It's a plot! BTW.. You've got mail

244 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:31:49pm

re: #221 subsailor68

Oh yeah, the music fest is terrific. I see Rod Kennedy every once in awhile, although he's not really involved anymore.

Great music town! Once a week or so I'll sit in with groups around here. It's been interesting...I play primarily soprano sax, but the country guys are real happy to have the instrument in the mix. Even got into a duel with a fiddle player one Sunday afternoon. Too much fun!

Oh I know. Put a few strings together, piano accordion and a sax, it's a really nice sound. And it works nice for dixieland and some of the New Orleans styled jazz.

I have a number of friends fro N.O. who make Kerrville every year.

245 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:31:51pm

re: #242 buzzsawmonkey

Let's leave ethnicities out of this, please.

Island of tropical breezes...

246 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:31:54pm

re: #226 jorline

At his age now, Lance could never do a down and out with his pants down around his ankles.

AND HELLO TO SOUTH TEXAS!
*rimshot*

The big question was whether he should be traded or not. Word was that the judge and lawyers and team management had a conference in the judge's chambers ... and decided he should stick it out in Dallas.

247 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:32:09pm

re: #223 Occasional Reader

I miss those guys.

Let me frank about Frank

248 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:32:19pm

re: #219 pre-Boomer Marine brat

/we're gonna find out how many OLD time Cowboy fans are in the room

I say it's all a set-up by Buddy Ryan. Bounty Bowl III!

249 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:32:31pm

re: #245 debutaunt

Island of tropical breezes drinks...

I wouldn't go if not so!

250 MartinLeaf  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:33:02pm

There may be more than first meets the eye. I believe "No Country For Old Men" was really about Islamic Terror, Anton Chigurh being its personification.

Just one example: Chigurh takes off his shoes, commits a "Jihad", then takes off his socks, stands with palms up and feet aligned, and bows down in the Islamic prayer position (ostensibly looking under the bed for money), in front of an upturned lamp. There are literally hundreds of references to Islamic Terror throughout, including the coin dated 1958, which is now regarded by many as Osama Bin Laden's birthyear (Obama Bin Biden). The portrait Chigurh paints is one of pure uncompromising evil, which of course is what Islamic Terror is.

So its out there, you just have to look.

251 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:33:50pm

re: #244 Walter L. Newton

You really should make another trip out. We even sell beer on Sunday's now. :-)

252 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:34:07pm

re: #223 Occasional Reader

I miss those guys.

Mitchell!

253 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:35:11pm

Anyway, here is a link to some of his Ill. senate records. I a having a hard time getting on now but this is from the 90th general assembly:

[Link: www.legis.state.il.us...]

254 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:35:25pm

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey

Here in NYC we call squirrels "rats with big hair."

Tree rats (with a good PR agent)

255 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:36:18pm

re: #219 pre-Boomer Marine brat

/we're gonna find out how many OLD time Cowboy fans are in the room

Since 1972. :)

256 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:36:21pm

re: #242 buzzsawmonkey


LOL.... ahh come on. Their cute. I have many around my home... well in the very back area

257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:36:33pm

re: #252 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mitchell!

Torgo Baby!

258 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:36:37pm

re: #237 Walter L. Newton

And you live in a really fine place to go insane in. Hey, speaking of insane, do the subways still have the blind accordion players playing the accordion on the cars and begging for change?

That's what got me interested in the accordion. When I was nine, I started to take lessons and the teacher freaked out when I told him my reason. I wanted to work in the subway.

Aiming really low when you were 9, eh? Hehe. Betcha you found much better ways to make money with that accordion-playing when you got older, though.

259 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:37:14pm

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey

Here in NYC we call squirrels "rats with big hair."

I remember back in my youth the mayor of Boston, trying to "spruce up" the cities image used to call the pidgeons "City Doves"
(yes ,,, he was a liberal ,, why do you ask?))

260 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:37:25pm

re: #256 Dustoff-507

LOL.... ahh come on. Their cute. I have many around my home... well in the very back area

A couple of them tossed in a stew taste pretty good.

261 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:37:34pm

re: #254 Outrider

Tree rats (with a good PR agent)

Limb chickens.

/so you guys know fluffy bunnies are just rodents, too, right?

262 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:38:06pm

re: #260 Outrider


Nice. I'll remember that one.

263 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:38:20pm

re: #261 OldLineTexan

Limb chickens.

/so you guys know fluffy bunnies are just rodents, too, right?

and they too, taste good.

264 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:38:46pm

re: #237 Walter L. Newton

And you live in a really fine place to go insane in. Hey, speaking of insane, do the subways still have the blind accordion players playing the accordion on the cars and begging for change?

That's what got me interested in the accordion. When I was nine, I started to take lessons and the teacher freaked out when I told him my reason. I wanted to work in the subway.

you wanted to be blind?

265 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:38:50pm

re: #261 OldLineTexan


HEY NOW!

266 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:39:29pm

Team Obama Spin Lies About Ayers


Obama Spokesman Bill Burton denied Obama ever wrote a favorable review for Ayers’ 1997 book on the juvenile justice system, sarcastically titled "A Kind and Just Parent” in an interview with Fox News Company’s Megyn Kelly Tuesday.

“He did not write a blurb for his book,” Burton said. “He did not.”

Contrary to what Burton said, a December 1997 article from the Chicago Tribune contains a statement from Obama describing Ayers’ book as “A searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair.”

The book plainly recognizes Ayers’ involvement in terrorist acts.

The Amazon.com description of Ayers’ book says “For five years, Ayers, a former member of the radical 1960s Weathermen organization, acted as a teacher and an observer in Chicago's Juvenile Court prison, the nations first and largest institution of juvenile justice….the court today epitomizes the confused and confusing way American justice deals with children…Ayers shows that we must overcome our preconceived notions of these children and learn to deal with the realities of their lives.”

267 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:39:35pm

re: #257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Torgo Baby!

Flag on the moon... how'd it get there?

268 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:40:15pm

re: #263 Outrider

and they too, taste good.

Snakes are scared of bunnies.

269 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:40:17pm

re: #262 Dustoff-507

Nice. I'll remember that one.

Squirrel stew
Squirrel with dumplings
BBQ squirrel
Pan-fried squirrel
Squirrel pie

/and that's all I have to say about squirrels

270 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:40:31pm

re: #260 Outrider

A couple of them tossed in a stew taste pretty good.

Welcome to LGF, Governor Huckabee!

271 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:40:51pm
272 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:41:00pm

re: #243 HoosierHoops

It's a plot! BTW.. You've got mail


So do you.

273 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:41:06pm

re: #268 debutaunt

Snakes are scared of bunnies.

As is Jimmy Carter.

274 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:41:31pm

re: #268 debutaunt

Snakes are scared of bunnies.

So is Carter.

275 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:41:39pm

Found the Globe's review (funny, it says it was reviewed on Sunday, but wasn't in the Sunday paper, the only one we get. Mabye we can cancel the subscription now that the dogs have grown from being puppies)

Anyway, it gets two out of 4 stars, and here's the review.

276 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:42:09pm

re: #273 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

As is Jimmy Carter.

Dang, 25 seconds too late! :)

277 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:42:16pm

re: #142 doppelganglander

Is that where Dr. Who and Torchwood are made? My husband and daughter are huge fans and they now want to visit Cardiff.

Err - no ...
Its still in the planning stages, and they're very short of money ...

Torchwood and Dr.Who are made by the BBC Wales, right here in Cardiff!
Its a good place to visit - we have a most fantasic open-air Museum of Welsh Life, a Castle right in the middle of town, parks - and a pretty nifty shopping district, being extended right now: huge building project!

278 Celtic Templar  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:42:35pm

re: #229 JacksonTn

I finally found part of his state senate record and guess who introduced a Islamic Community Day ....... Barack Hussein Obama

[Link: web.archive.org...]

Senate Sponsors:
OBAMA.

Short description:
11/1/97-ISLAMIC COMMUNITY DAY

Synopsis of Bill as introduced:
Declares November 1, 1997 to be South Shore Islamic Community
Center Day.

Last action on Bill: SESSION SINE DIE

Last action date: 99-01-12

Location: Senate

Amendments to Bill: AMENDMENTS ADOPTED: HOUSE - 0 SENATE - 0


END OF INQUIRY

No shit ... this one gets mailed to my circle of trust.

279 Jamie  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:43:26pm

re: #91 Occasional Reader

It's a completely different kind of movie... altogether!

Shanna, the moviegoers bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into.

I say, let 'em crash.

280 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:43:28pm

re: #271 buzzsawmonkey

The MTA now administers a licensing/permission program for working the subways. It started around the time that tokens were completely replaced by Metrocards--probably an effort to end tokenism in all aspects of the subway.

There are still unlicensed beggars and performers too, of course.

Just wondering. I haven't been back in 25 years. I know in Paris, they actually encourage street performers to work the metro and other public places. And they do issue permits, and the government pays the salary.

281 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:43:48pm

re: #271 buzzsawmonkey

The MTA now administers a licensing/permission program for working the subways. It started around the time that tokens were completely replaced by Metrocards--probably an effort to end tokenism in all aspects of the subway.

There are still unlicensed beggars and performers too, of course.

But it seems the buskers are limited to some parts of the lines. We were on the A train from Brooklyn to most of the way north, and they got off at 34th st.
One group was a mariachi band, which reminded me of a Tom Lehrer line "The mariachis would serenade/ and they would not shut up till they were paid"

282 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:44:51pm
283 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:44:51pm

Hey, where is Mandy.

I could use a few cuss words right now. (-:

284 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:45:01pm

re: #277 yma o hyd

Err - no ...
Its still in the planning stages, and they're very short of money ...

Torchwood and Dr.Who are made by the BBC Wales, right here in Cardiff!
Its a good place to visit - we have a most fantasic open-air Museum of Welsh Life, a Castle right in the middle of town, parks - and a pretty nifty shopping district, being extended right now: huge building project!

So how far from Cardiff is that new studio? Is it close enough in that the Torchwood people could, say, detect an alien artifact being used as a movie prop and come looking? :D

285 Celtic Templar  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:45:15pm

re: #279 Jamie

Shanna, the moviegoers bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into.

I say, let 'em crash.

Surely, you can't be serious?

286 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:45:33pm

re: #271 buzzsawmonkey

There are still unlicensed beggars and performers too, of course.

Damn scabs. I'm suprised the union hasn't come down harder on them.

/

287 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:45:58pm

re: #285 Celtic Templar

Surely, you can't be serious?

Don't call me Shirley.

288 jorline  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:46:15pm

re: #246 pre-Boomer Marine brat

AND HELLO TO SOUTH TEXAS!
*rimshot*

The big question was whether he should be traded or not. Word was that the judge and lawyers and team management had a conference in the judge's chambers ... and decided he should stick it out in Dallas.

Hey, pBMB...good see you.

289 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:46:40pm

re: #271 buzzsawmonkey

The MTA now administers a licensing/permission program for working the subways. It started around the time that tokens were completely replaced by Metrocards--probably an effort to end tokenism in all aspects of the subway.

There are still unlicensed beggars and performers too, of course.

Is Charlie still on the MTA?

290 Jamie  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:46:54pm

re: #75 Outrider

9. "An American Carol," Vivendi Entertainment, $3,656,000, 1,639 locations, $2,231 average, $3,656,000, one week.

at least it came in ahead of :

10. "Religulous," Lionsgate, $3,409,643, 502 locations, $6,792 average, $3,428,633, one week

I wouldn't tout those numbers, because they invite a comparison of the number of screens where the film was available. Plus, I hear that Religulous spares none of the sensitivities the radical Islamists blow people up over, which makes it worth watching, IMO.

291 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:47:08pm
292 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:47:10pm

re: #287 Kosh's Shadow

Don't call me Shirley.

I just want you to know...we're all counting on you.

293 Celtic Templar  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:47:19pm

re: #287 Kosh's Shadow

Don't call me Shirley.

Nope.

"I am serious ... and don't call me Shirley." (sorry for the pedanticism)

294 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:47:23pm

re: #289 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sorry to butt in, but I believe his fate is still unlearned.

295 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:48:22pm

re: #288 jorline

Hey, pBMB...good see you.

*grin*
(waves back)
And Joey H. was puzzled over why everyone was making such a big deal over such a little thing.

296 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:48:23pm

re: #268 debutaunt

Snakes are scared of bunnies.

I seem to recall seeing a video of a rabbit opening a can of whup-ass on a snake.

297 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:48:30pm

re: #281 Kosh's Shadow

But it seems the buskers are limited to some parts of the lines. We were on the A train from Brooklyn to most of the way north, and they got off at 34th st.
One group was a mariachi band, which reminded me of a Tom Lehrer line "The mariachis would serenade/ and they would not shut up till they were paid"

That's interesting. In the 50's, when I saw the accordion players, I don't think it was legal, because the beggars were always trying to avoid the conductors, and they seemed to be aware of the way the transit employees "moved" during thier shifts. It was sort of a cat and mouse game.

And there were some of these players who were NOT blind. All the kids knew who they were, and we would break up their scams by placing our legs out in the aisle, just as they passed by, and they would have to avoid the leg.

Sort of gave their game away. They would always leave the car and get off at the next stop.

298 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:48:56pm

re: #277 yma o hyd

Err - no ...
Its still in the planning stages, and they're very short of money ...

Torchwood and Dr.Who are made by the BBC Wales, right here in Cardiff!
Its a good place to visit - we have a most fantasic open-air Museum of Welsh Life, a Castle right in the middle of town, parks - and a pretty nifty shopping district, being extended right now: huge building project!

Oh, I see. The article was dated 2005 so I had no idea. Anyway, Cardiff sounds lovely.

299 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:49:02pm

#289 & #294

Some people are showing their age. ;-)

300 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:49:02pm

re: #267 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Flag on the moon... how'd it get there?

Eh. Movie set. No breeze on the moon.
/channeling Ron Paul

301 ggt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:49:37pm

Hey Lizards. I'm back from my errands --whad' I miss?

302 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:49:49pm

re: #299 unreconstructed rebel

Ouch! (My grandpa used to sing it to me...no?)

303 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:07pm

Bush quit talking & the market went to shit.

304 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:11pm

re: #189 Racer X

David Zucker is getting cheated at the box office by dishonest theater owners / staff. An American Carol is not being advertised on the marquee, the film is not being listed at the ticket booth, and is being omitted on the theater voice recordings. Tickets are sold for a different movie and patrons are told it was just an "error".

Leftwing conspiracy?


Help the filmmakers out - go see it! Check your ticket stub to insure it says "An American Carol" so they get credit.

* * *
This does not surprise me one bit. The WashPost called "An American Carol" "unreviewed", then trashed it!

305 jorline  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:19pm

re: #295 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
(waves back)
And Joey H. was puzzled over why everyone was making such a big deal over such a little thing.

I guess she would know if it was a little thing or not...LOL

306 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:21pm

re: #289 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is Charlie still on the MTA?

re: #291 buzzsawmonkey

Different MTA; the "Charlie" song is about Boston.

307 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:33pm

re: #301 ggt

Hey Lizards. I'm back from my errands --whad' I miss?

Stocks down
Stocks up
Edgar still sucks
Palin wears body condom

Always glad to help.

308 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:36pm

re: #289 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is Charlie still on the MTA?

Different MTA. Charlie is on the Boston one.
Funny, they named the fare cards "Charlie cards", and then they don't display how much money is left on a card either on the card or on the turnstyle.
You have to go to a machine to read it.
Since a few stops still require a fare to exit, you could get stuck on the T.

But since the song has "And through the open window she'd hand Charlie a sandwich as the train came rumbling through", I've wondered why his wife didn't include the nickel he needed to get off?

309 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:36pm

re: #283 Dustoff-507

Hey, where is Mandy.

I could use a few cuss words right now. (-:

Traditional or extra crispy?

310 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:50:37pm

re: #291 buzzsawmonkey

Different MTA; the "Charlie" song is about Boston.

Yeah. I was in junior high in Worcester about the time the KT brought the song out.

After clicking "post", I realized you must be talking about NYS's subway authority. ooops!

311 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:51:27pm

re: #299 unreconstructed rebel

#289 & #294

Some people are showing their age. ;-)

see my #306 ,, as a kid , I knew that song by heart (born and raised in Boston in 1953)

312 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:51:44pm

re: #296 Outrider

I seem to recall seeing a video of a rabbit opening a can of whup-ass on a snake.

Yes, here it is

313 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:51:45pm

re: #304 alegrias

* * *
This does not surprise me one bit. The WashPost called "An American Carol" "unreviewed", then trashed it!

Well, the producers did not hold any pre-opening screenings for any critics. So they had to see it at the same time it opened to the general public. That pisses the critics off something terrible.

314 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:51:49pm

re: #304 alegrias

* * *
This does not surprise me one bit. The WashPost called "An American Carol" "unreviewed", then trashed it!

It hasn't been REVIEWED until it's been reviewed by The Washington Post!

/

315 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:52:09pm

re: #143 eschew_obfuscation

That's pretty funny given that studios strive to get 'R' ratings because they sell better!

Would "Die Hard 4" be an exception to that rule?

/Watered down compared to previous "Die Hard" films to get the PG-13 rating, because that rating sells better.

316 jacksontn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:52:10pm

re: #191 Pvt Bin Jammin

"Obama began seeking the New Party endorsement in 1995. He had been running in a four way primary against his former boss, Senator Alice Palmer, herself a far left radical, and two other individuals. But an election law quirk gave Obama the upper hand. In order to get on the ballot, candidates had to collect signatures of voters. Printed names were not allowed. Obama challenged the petitions of his rivals and was able to get every one of them thrown off the ballot. By the time the ballot was drawn up for the 1996 election, Obama’s was the only name in the race.

Nonetheless, Obama still coveted the New Party endorsement. The New Party required candidates who received the endorsement sign a pledge of support for the party. Obama did not need to support a party that was, in effect, a front group for communists; yet he still chose to. The July issue of the New Ground noted that 15% of the New Party consisted of Democratic Socialists of America members and a good number of Committee of Correspondence members."
snip

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

Private:

I have been looking at the archives that google has up today and the link I had earlier to the New Party website that said he was a member has alot of forums you can access. It is a lot of digging but there are many comments. I guess Axelrod did not get to scrub all the archives of google.

317 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:52:33pm

re: #218 Irene NYC

Just watching a clip from the View from Hot Air. What is the matter with these people? Barbara Walters says can't we all agree that there's a statute of limitations when it comes to Ayers and his past.

You know, I really, really don't want to even live in the same country as these types of people.

I think I'm going to go insane soon.

What awful hags!

This is what someone did who did not murder or bomb people:

"After his resignation, Profumo began to work as a volunteer cleaning toilets at Toynbee Hall, a charity based in the East End of London, and continued to work there for the rest of his life. [2] Eventually, Profumo volunteered as the charity's chief fundraiser. These charitable activities helped to restore Profumo's reputation;"

This, and more about Profumo, here:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Thats what is called atonement - have Dohrn and Ayers atoned? Do they actually know what atonement means?
I don't think so - and as long as they don't regret and atone, there'll be no 'statute of limitation' for them!

318 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:52:43pm

re: #310 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah. I was in junior high in Worcester about the time the KT brought the song out.

After clicking "post", I realized you must be talking about NYS's subway authority. ooops!

319 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:53:02pm

re: #294 subsailor68

Sorry to butt in, but I believe his fate is still unlearned.

*RIMSHOT*

BTW, from your nic, I've been guessing that you served on diesel boats. Correct?

(I was on a flatop, mid-60's)

320 ggt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:53:15pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for the update!

321 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:53:38pm

Hey Hooooooosier Daddy!

322 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:53:41pm

re: #118 Vergeltung

not defending Maher, as if I saw him in person I would get arrested by virtue of the action I would take. however, that being said, I heard that he attacks all religious faiths rather equally, including some nice jabs at the splodeydopes....

Since we all know all religions are equally worthy of disgust and ridicule, I guess that is only as it should be, right?

/

323 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:54:02pm

re: #311 sattv4u2

see my #306 ,, as a kid , I knew that song by heart (born and raised in Boston in 1953)

IIRC, the Kingston Trio was before the folk music genre went lefty & all.

324 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:54:14pm

re: #316 jacksontn

Heh, I've been checking out your posts and doing a little searching myself.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

325 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:54:24pm

re: #319 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Nope. I did ride a few, but was lucky enough to go directly from Sub School to new construction at Mare Island. USS Pintado, SSN 672. It was a wonderful boat with an amazing crew. Best times of my life (so far). :-)

326 ggt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:55:11pm

re: #317 yma o hyd

Statute of Limitations --for murder?

327 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:55:13pm

re: #290 Jamie

I wouldn't tout those numbers, because they invite a comparison of the number of screens where the film was available. Plus, I hear that Religulous spares none of the sensitivities the radical Islamists blow people up over, which makes it worth watching, IMO.

I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Bill Maher if he was on fire.

It's too bad when people like him have good ideas, and I have to avoid handing them my money.

328 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:55:57pm

re: #321 loppyd

Hey Hooooooosier Daddy!

Howdy Loppyd..
I don't know about you..but i never go see a movie without reading the Washington Post's review first...Since they trashed the movie I don't know if I Should see it or not..
/ must I?

329 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:57:06pm

re: #149 Walter L. Newton

Spot on. You know, I have heard the "full body condom" reference used in humor over the years, but I have a question. Is there really such an item?

Walter in Golden, Co.

P.S.
(and if it exists, where can I get one, I have an idea)

I don't know, but if it exists I'd bet dollars to donuts Zombie has seen one. (In his/her journalistic capacity only, of course!)

330 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:57:07pm

re: #327 OldLineTexan

I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Bill Maher if he was on fire.

It's too bad when people like him have good ideas, and I have to avoid handing them my money.

That deserved an upding!

331 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:57:09pm

Anybody here see the movie A Mighty Wind? Funny.

332 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:57:20pm

re: #308 Kosh's Shadow

Different MTA. Charlie is on the Boston one.
Funny, they named the fare cards "Charlie cards", and then they don't display how much money is left on a card either on the card or on the turnstyle.
You have to go to a machine to read it.
Since a few stops still require a fare to exit, you could get stuck on the T.

But since the song has "And through the open window she'd hand Charlie a sandwich as the train came rumbling through", I've wondered why his wife didn't include the nickel he needed to get off?

AND YOU WOULD SPOIL A WONDERFUL SONG?!?!
SHAME ON YOU!

333 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:57:27pm

re: #314 NomadOfNorad

It hasn't been REVIEWED until it's been reviewed by The Washington Post!

/

* * *
Reviewer in chief, Fat Tom Shales, burp. What a gas bag.

334 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:57:30pm

re: #309 HoosierHoops


NOoooo now I have to pick?

335 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:57:52pm

re: #296 Outrider

I seem to recall seeing a video of a rabbit opening a can of whup-ass on a snake.

Yes! The bunny treed the snake!

336 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:58:11pm

re: #323 unreconstructed rebel

IIRC, the Kingston Trio was before the folk music genre went lefty & all.

Absolutely.

/though the Weavers were around back then -- predated the KT

337 ggt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:58:19pm

I sat down to do more research on Ayers --but it just upsets me too much.

This is what Moral Relativism is all about. So, you murdered people because you had a cause --but now you don't. It's ok, I'll let you have a hand in educational policy for my children.

Ayers and Dorn declared war and think they won.

/gah

338 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:58:34pm

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

Well, the producers did not hold any pre-opening screenings for any critics. So they had to see it at the same time it opened to the general public. That pisses the critics off something terrible.

* * *
Who elected leftist movie reviewers arbiters of truth and the American Way?

339 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:58:41pm

re: #290 Jamie

I wouldn't tout those numbers, because they invite a comparison of the number of screens where the film was available. Plus, I hear that Religulous spares none of the sensitivities the radical Islamists blow people up over, which makes it worth watching, IMO.


kind of curious what kind of theaters played each of the movies.
American Carol played at 1,630 locations while Religious played at 502. But Religious brought in an average of $6,792; about three times as much as the average of American Carol at $2,231 while playing at a third of the number of theaters. Just curious.

340 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:58:47pm

re: #328 HoosierHoops

Howdy Loppyd..
I don't know about you..but i never go see a movie without reading the Washington Post's review first...Since they trashed the movie I don't know if I Should see it or not..
/ must I?

heh! I usually read the reviews and assume that the opposite is true.

If you remember the reviews were awful when Star Wars was released in 1977.....and for many other great movies since.

341 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:59:20pm
342 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:59:23pm

Considering that the Dow was in positive territory this morning, it has now lost over 600 points.

Welcome to the lean years.

343 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 12:59:54pm

re: #329 nikis-knight

I don't know, but if it exists I'd bet dollars to donuts Zombie has seen one. (In his/her journalistic capacity only, of course!)

[Link: www.ramdac.org...]

344 ggt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:00:01pm

re: #340 eschew_obfuscation

That's because the "reviewers" don't like any reference to absolute good or absolute evil. Just doesn't work with their world view.

345 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:00:30pm

re: #325 subsailor68

Nope. I did ride a few, but was lucky enough to go directly from Sub School to new construction at Mare Island. USS Pintado, SSN 672. It was a wonderful boat with an amazing crew. Best times of my life (so far). :-)

SubSailor! I worked at Mare Island in Bld.690. I refueled the nuclear boats on the Island After college..Pretty cool job...
Mic: ah..this is the Hoopster.. I just opened CD39 valve..Is that ok?
Control: NNNNNOOOOO!
Another thing RADCON loved to hear over the headphones:
Whoops!
RADCON: What happened? What Happened?
Me: oh..Nothing...

346 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:00:46pm

Market is closed.

I need a drink.

347 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:00:51pm

re: #282 buzzsawmonkey

Aww ...

Cardiff was the biggest coal-exporting harbour in the UK, if not Europe, up to WWII. What used to be the harbour became derelict as the coal mines closed.
Now, there is a barrage (brilliant edifice!), and a freshwater lake - and the most amazing regeneration project.
You've seen the new buildings and everything if you watch Torchwood, and Dr Who ...

348 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:01:20pm

re: #343 sattv4u2

[Link: www.ramdac.org...]

I got some web cartoon decrying hotlinking as a sin that kills baby kittens or some nonsensical crap that some pimply prepubescent bucket of lard thought was funny.

/

349 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:02:10pm

re: #322 nikis-knight

Since we all know all religions are equally worthy of disgust and ridicule, I guess that is only as it should be, right?

/

not the point I was making. it's just not an anti-christian film alone, is what I was trying to say.

350 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:02:25pm

re: #341 buzzsawmonkey

The folk music genre was always lefty. It began with the leftist Alan Lomax recording songs during the Depression under the auspices of the WPA or some such; communists Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie and the Almanac Singers (the precursors of the Weavers) were in there right at the beginning.

Then for the sophisticated, there was Aaron Copeland.

351 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:02:31pm

re: #345 HoosierHoops

How cool is that! BTW the shipyard guys were terrific. With the help of a few pounds of coffee, a ham or two, and some other stuff - the shop guys even found us some very comfortable pilot chairs for sonar - instead of the backless benches.

(Wonder if the statute of limitations on that has run out. Oops!)

352 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:02:53pm

re: #348 OldLineTexan

I got some web cartoon decrying hotlinking as a sin that kills baby kittens or some nonsensical crap that some pimply prepubescent bucket of lard thought was funny.

/

I'll have you know
A)Clearasil works fine
B) my voice has changed
C) okay ,,, ya got me there!

353 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:02:58pm

re: #331 unreconstructed rebel

Anybody here see the movie A Mighty Wind? Funny.

How's It Hanging, Grandma?

354 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:03:03pm

re: #344 ggt

That's because the "reviewers" don't like any reference to absolute good or absolute evil. Just doesn't work with their world view.

Yep.....same reason the lefties don't like Palin.....she makes 'em feel guilty about who they are just by being herself. Pretty funny IMHO.

355 Alouette  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:04:02pm

re: #336 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Absolutely.

/though the Weavers were around back then -- predated the KT

The Weavers group was founded by Pete Seeger, 100% CPUSA.

356 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:04:15pm

re: #342 Dirk Diggler

Considering that the Dow was in positive territory this morning, it has now lost over 600 points.

Welcome to the lean years.

* * *
Bah humbug. Let's see opportunity here, especially compared to rotten Russia's situation which is really down the tubes.

BUY low, sell high is classic advice.

This is an opportunity to invest in America! It's patriotic and NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU invest if you don't want to.

357 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:04:20pm

re: #325 subsailor68

Nope. I did ride a few, but was lucky enough to go directly from Sub School to new construction at Mare Island. USS Pintado, SSN 672. It was a wonderful boat with an amazing crew. Best times of my life (so far). :-)

1965/66, we tied up at Subic instead of Cubi Point. There was a diesel boat behind us, with a few of the crew lounging about on the deck as we headed down the pier on liberty. I needed a bath and change of whites after just LOOKING at them.

358 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:04:36pm

re: #351 subsailor68

How cool is that! BTW the shipyard guys were terrific. With the help of a few pounds of coffee, a ham or two, and some other stuff - the shop guys even found us some very comfortable pilot chairs for sonar - instead of the backless benches.

(Wonder if the statute of limitations on that has run out. Oops!)


Loved Mare Island! What years were you there? Were you familiar with the 683?

359 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:04:48pm

re: #284 NomadOfNorad

So how far from Cardiff is that new studio? Is it close enough in that the Torchwood people could, say, detect an alien artifact being used as a movie prop and come looking? :D

Oh yes!

(Provided they don't get captured by all the valleys people ...!)

360 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:05:33pm

re: #350 unreconstructed rebel

Then for the sophisticated, there was Aaron Copeland.


* * *
What's not to like about his "Rodeo/Hoedown" and "Lincoln Suite"? I love those pieces! Ultra American.

361 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:05:46pm

re: #357 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh, heh. Yep, no doubt about it. Old saying was that if you were walking down the passageway, smelled something awful, and turned around to see there was no one there - time for a shower.

362 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:05:50pm
363 loppyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:05:54pm

Heading home.

Will check in before the debate!

364 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:06:29pm

re: #339 Outrider

kind of curious what kind of theaters played each of the movies.
American Carol played at 1,630 locations while Religious played at 502. But Religious brought in an average of $6,792; about three times as much as the average of American Carol at $2,231 while playing at a third of the number of theaters. Just curious.

metropolitan vs. suburban?

365 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:06:35pm

re: #359 yma o hyd

Oh yes!

(Provided they don't get captured by all the valleys people ...!)

Aliens don't come to this part of Texas anymore after a few "revenge" probings were committed. Which means their damned pet chupacabras are all over the place running wild. Can't keep a goat to save your life.

366 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:06:55pm

loppyd,

Heading home.

Will check in before the debate!



How is life in Waspville?

367 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:06:56pm

re: #316 jacksontn

Just want to say - you're doing a terrific job, digging!
Much appreciated!

368 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:06:57pm

re: #358 HoosierHoops

I was there from September 1970 until about October 1971 (68 was the year I joined up). Pintado, Hawkbill, and Drum were the boats in the yard when I was there.

369 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:07:35pm

re: #331 unreconstructed rebel

Anybody here see the movie A Mighty Wind? Funny.


I love Christopher Guest films.

370 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:07:55pm

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

The Weavers were the late version of the Almanac Singers, which included Woody Guthrie (the Weavers did not). Many of the songs now remembered as "Weavers songs," such as "Goodnight Irene" (Leadbelly), "Union Maid," "Which Side Are You On?" and Guthrie's "Reuben James" were first done by the Almanacs.

Last Saturday night I got married
Think I'll jump in thr river and drown

/cut out the unneeded verbiage

371 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:08:20pm

re: #360 alegrias

* * *
What's not to like about his "Rodeo/Hoedown" and "Lincoln Suite"? I love those pieces! Ultra American.

Didn't say I didn't like it. Just that Copeland, too, was very much a 1930s champion of the common man.

372 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:08:39pm

re: #326 ggt

Statute of Limitations --for murder?

Thats what those hags on 'View' apparently said, according to Irene-NYC, statute of limitation for Ayer's past ...

373 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:09:12pm

re: #372 yma o hyd

Thats what those hags on 'View' apparently said, according to Irene-NYC, statute of limitation for Ayer's past ...

They'd be more fun to watch if they had a big kettle and were sharing an eye...

374 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:09:27pm

re: #369 redstateredneck

I love Christopher Guest films.

Guest and the bloodhound puppet show!

375 solomonpanting  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:09:41pm

Speaking of The Kingston Trio, did you see this from last week?

376 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:10:03pm

re: #373 OldLineTexan

Yeah, an eye of Newt Gingrich. Bet they'd hate that!

377 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:10:08pm

re: #353 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You didn't like it.

378 gop_patriot  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:10:17pm

re: #373 OldLineTexan

They'd be more fun to watch if they had a big kettle and were sharing an eye...

HAHAHAHA

Yeah, I'd say that's about all that's missing. ROFLOL!

379 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:10:27pm

re: #169 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

For those interested, Dirty Harry's Place, a blog run by a conservative in Hollywood, is where I go to get my movie news & reviews.

Great site...thanks for the link.

380 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:10:32pm

Aaron Copland, not Copeland. Like the underrated Stallone movie.

381 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:10:38pm

re: #374 debutaunt

Guest and the bloodhound puppet show!

I think Best in Show is my fave.

382 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:10:39pm
383 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:11:00pm
384 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:11:16pm

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

The Weavers were the late version of the Almanac Singers, which included Woody Guthrie (the Weavers did not). Many of the songs now remembered as "Weavers songs," such as "Goodnight Irene" (Leadbelly), "Union Maid," "Which Side Are You On?" and Guthrie's "Reuben James" were first done by the Almanacs.

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The Smithsonian Institution enthusiastically published many of these leftists' music, I forget whether the families of some of these folks donated their works. Nothing like your tax dollars propagating leftists works in perpetuity, and giving leftist "curators" lifelong jobs in "academia".

385 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:11:28pm

re: #374 debutaunt

Guest and the bloodhound puppet show!

Best in Show

386 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:11:32pm

re: #381 redstateredneck

I think Best in Show is my fave.

I agree, but they are all fun.

387 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:12:21pm

re: #377 unreconstructed rebel

You didn't like it.

I did. Not as much as Best in Show, or Spinal Tap (of course). 'Bout the same as Waiting for Guffman.

388 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:12:44pm

re: #365 OldLineTexan

Aliens don't come to this part of Texas anymore after a few "revenge" probings were committed. Which means their damned pet chupacabras are all over the place running wild. Can't keep a goat to save your life.

Thats just terrible!

Good thing we've got Captain Torchwood and his crew - they do like it here!

389 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:12:44pm

re: #349 Vergeltung

not the point I was making. it's just not an anti-christian film alone, is what I was trying to say.

No, it's not so much an anti-Christian film as it is an anti-religion film, from what I hear. But it does apparently bash Christianity quite a lot, according to another post here. What, 90% of it it Christian-bashing?

390 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:12:45pm

re: #381 redstateredneck

I think Best in Show is my fave.

Yep

391 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:12:49pm

re: #386 debutaunt

I agree, but they are all fun.

It doesn't matter how many times I watch it, I just roll with laughter!

392 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:13:32pm

re: #341 buzzsawmonkey

Nitpicking, perhaps. There were parts of the folk music genre which were populist, rather than lefty. Re the examples you bring out, you are absolutely correct, but there were others.
By the mid-Sixties, they'd been pushed to the fringes, which was part of why this strictly-amateur left.

393 Celtic Templar  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:14:03pm

Today's tale of the tape: lost 6% out of my stocks, gained 4% in gold - net loss 2%.

394 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:14:37pm

re: #345 HoosierHoops

'Nother I liked to hear over an open mic - "Oh, shit"...

395 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:14:42pm

re: #383 taxfreekiller

debate, there is an ID thread coming up?

Oh, Hell no! Don't even THINK that! :P :P :P :P

396 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:14:56pm

re: #392 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Nitpicking, perhaps. There were parts of the folk music genre which were populist, rather than lefty. Re the examples you bring out, you are absolutely correct, but there were others.
By the mid-Sixties, they'd been pushed to the fringes, which was part of why this strictly-amateur left.

populist = left

397 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:15:06pm

re: #373 OldLineTexan

They'd be more fun to watch if they had a big kettle and were sharing an eye...

Teeheehee!

Just watching those clips where Whoopi thinks she'll be slave again were quite quite sufficient for me.
Thats one advantage living in the UK has - we don't get to see these hags!

398 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:15:17pm

re: #355 Alouette

The Weavers group was founded by Pete Seeger, 100% CPUSA.

Oh yeah, I know. See buzzsaw's.

399 ggt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:15:18pm

re: #372 yma o hyd

I'm speechless.

400 Dianna  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:15:29pm

Hi!

I'm at home, after seeing my doctor.

I just got whacked with yet another pharmaceutical club. I feel awful, but I'm tired of lying in bed.

What's up? Not the market, I see. I do hear that the Ayers matter has proceeded to blow up so badly that even the MSM can't ignore it.

My Male now has some vague idea who Bernadine Dohrn is, too. This makes me laugh, since I first became aware of her when I read The Culture of Narcisism more than twenty years ago.

So, what else is interesting?

401 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:15:49pm

re: #388 yma o hyd

Is he the one that carries the oak hammer and Silver stakes?

402 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:16:27pm

re: #396 Vergeltung

populist = left

I agree with Marine Brat. There is a distinction.

403 jwb7605  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:16:52pm

re: #375 solomonpanting

Speaking of The Kingston Trio, did you see this from last week?

BUMMER!
MTA -- launched their career, as I recall.

Reverend Mr. Black was one of my personal favorites.

404 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:17:13pm

re: #400 Dianna

I just got whacked with yet another pharmaceutical club. I feel awful, but I'm tired of lying in bed.

What? Are you OK?

405 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:17:20pm

re: #400 Dianna

Are you getting re-infected?

406 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:18:15pm

re: #399 ggt

I'm speechless.

Same here!

Thats the moonbat mindset in full flow - throw everything, laws included, overboard just so that B0 gets to win.

407 johnnyreb  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:18:19pm

re: #7 Vergeltung

I have often wondered how the conservative actors & actresses even survive in Crazywood. John Voight, Ron Silver, Robert Duvall, and the rest. I wonder how much they will work in the future.....

Paul Newman (who recently passed away here in CT) did it by simply leaving. If they wanted him, they had to come and get him. Seemed to work for him. He just kept low key and quiet and supported whatever causes he wanted to without being on the cover of any trashy hollywood tabloid. He was for Nuclear power, dirlling for oil, etc., but he didn't stand up and shout, he just donated money and time.

Our LLL local paper even said nice stuff about him. Come to think about it, they have even had postitive Gov. Palin articles at least every other day. Hmmmm, I wonder if they are getting the message?

408 DisturbedEma  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:18:34pm

OT, but what do you think? Did I miss the mark Lizards? Another round of flamed emails about the "8 years old" diversion got me going. . .

"Recent" discussions about Obama and his ties with Weather Underground member Ayers show the delicate but oh so powerful skill of political spinning and slight of hand. . .by team Obama.

Notice; the issue is NOT did Obama plant bombs with Ayers. . .it is What are his adult life ties with Ayers and more importantly for many people in my dad's generation, what are the influences and commonalities in their approach to U.S. government?

Is it a crime to hate America? Nope. Is it a crime to step on the flag and declare in print on 9-11-01 that you wish you could have done more by way of bombing. . .as planes were flying into buildings on the East Coast? Nope. Poor timing and poor judgement. . .the picture of Ayers posted here was taken in Chicago for an article where Ayers wishes he would have done more bombings and protesting. My dad was in Viet Nam at the time of his "activism" so were he alive today? He would be right here with me, I believe that in my heart.
But, hey, it is not even a crime to make the issue one of "he had nothing to do with this radical 60s politics guy" when the issue is SUPPOSED to be "what are you doing with this same unapologetic 60s radical in 2005 and how many times are you going to have to "clarify" relationships with people who represent fanatical beliefs AGAINST the United States?"

Look, go ahead Obama, hate America all you want. . .you, Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, and Bernadine, go right ahead. If THAT it the change you are selling, I am not buying. I have issues with a lot of things in this country- but I would just as soon suffer at the hands of your fanatic followers rather than support you if THIS is the kind of company you keep, and if THESE are the kind of positions you hold. Even if you cannot appreciate the fact that only in America can you act as you do, speak as you do, and hate as you do. . .because of the freedoms that are here. . .I can. My dad did. . .so do a lot of us, and what you mistake as weakness and softness is actually a sense of class and the realization that we, those of us not in Camp Obama, understand that our right to dissent is just as important to us, as your rights to support. . .and that is because we live in America. One thing that divides us though is the subjective interpretation of what it means to be "American" I will close this with something I heard A LOT during Grad school. . ."Dissent is not treason" Obama supporters would do well to remember that, Dissent is also not racism, and my right to dissent is just as strong as yours is to support.
My dad taught me that. Keep spinning Camp Obama. I will be watching your messiah very carefully tonight.

And remember;

"Our intelligence is imperfect, surely, and newly arisen; the ease with which it can be sweet-talked, overwhelmed, or subverted by other hardwired propensities -- sometimes themselves disguised as the cool light of reason -- is worrisome."Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan, 1992

409 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:19:15pm

re: #407 johnnyreb

Paul Newman (who recently passed away here in CT) did it by simply leaving. If they wanted him, they had to come and get him. Seemed to work for him. He just kept low key and quiet and supported whatever causes he wanted to without being on the cover of any trashy hollywood tabloid. He was for Nuclear power, dirlling for oil, etc., but he didn't stand up and shout, he just donated money and time.

Our LLL local paper even said nice stuff about him. Come to think about it, they have even had postitive Gov. Palin articles at least every other day. Hmmmm, I wonder if they are getting the message?

Newman was a moonbat, but a low keyed moonbat.

410 Alouette  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:19:16pm

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

The Weavers were the late version of the Almanac Singers, which included Woody Guthrie (the Weavers did not). Many of the songs now remembered as "Weavers songs," such as "Goodnight Irene" (Leadbelly), "Union Maid," "Which Side Are You On?" and Guthrie's "Reuben James" were first done by the Almanacs.

I seem to remember the Carter Family (including June Carter Cash) as folk singers, I don't think they were commies.

411 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:19:41pm

re: #401 Cap'n DOC

Is he the one that carries the oak hammer and Silver stakes?

Oh no.

He's much more high-tech than that!

412 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:19:46pm

re: #372 yma o hyd

No it's not a statute of limitations thing. Ayers was charged with various crimes but the prosecution screwed up and the case was thrown out for "prosecutorial misconduct". A new trial could not be held because of the "double jeopardy" rule.

Maybe Lawhawk could explain the justice of this to our non-legal minds...

413 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:19:47pm

re: #341 buzzsawmonkey

The folk music genre was always lefty. It began with the leftist Alan Lomax recording songs during the Depression under the auspices of the WPA or some such; communists Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie and the Almanac Singers (the precursors of the Weavers) were in there right at the beginning.

While Lomax served a valuable function by recording many folk songs in out of the way parts of the country before they vanished, it was all done as part of a means for the Party to appropriate the Voice of the Working Man. Many of the themes in modern-day leftism were laid down with the early folkies; the hatred of "Tin Pan Alley," i.e., commercial songs (think of Pete Seeger trying to trash Bob Dylan's electric guitar amp at the Newport Folk Festival); the exaltation of the poor and disadvantaged; the particular exaltation of criminals, particularly black convicts (Leadbelly, for example, was "discovered" when he was serving a conviction for murder, and was paroled through the intervention of his folkie friends).

Yes, the abject poverty and social injustice of the Depression spawned a whole generation of wonderful music and talented artists and other performing commies/lefties.
Dare we seriously doubt it could happen again under similar economic conditions - except this time they may well be better armed and organized, and perhaps led by a Messianic person in a position of great power?
BTW, I hated Dylan and wrote him off for many years after he went "electric" (and other stuff too).

414 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:20:05pm
415 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:20:05pm

re: #396 Vergeltung

populist = left

Begging to make a point, I'd define populist primarily as rabidly-common man, rabidly anti-Establishment, et cetera. Populists can appear on the far right (whence commeth my definition) as well as the far left (a more recent phenomena, of the past 100 years.)

416 DisturbedEma  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:20:36pm

re: #412 Kenneth

No it's not a statute of limitations thing. Ayers was charged with various crimes but the prosecution screwed up and the case was thrown out for "prosecutorial misconduct". A new trial could not be held because of the "double jeopardy" rule.

Maybe Lawhawk could explain the justice of this to our non-legal minds...

Oh, you mean because the country he hates has laws to protect him. . .hmmmmmmm

417 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:21:17pm

re: #400 Dianna

I'm so sorry for you - and am hoping that this clobbering will work now!

{Dianna}

418 Dianna  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:21:25pm

re: #396 Vergeltung

populist = left

There are plenty of right-wing populists. They tend to be isolationists and fond of the gold standard, and terribly, terribly nostalgic for a world that never existed, but they definitely exist. They tend to think that I'm a "country-club Republican", never mind that I don't have either the money for the background to be any such thing.

419 DisturbedEma  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:21:32pm

re: #417 yma o hyd

I'm so sorry for you - and am hoping that this clobbering will work now!

{Dianna}

Ditto!

420 Alouette  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:22:00pm

re: #413 sparrowlake


BTW, I hated Dylan and wrote him off for many years after he went "electric" (and other stuff too).

Neighborhood Bully

421 semper gumbi  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:22:17pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

No, so don't start posting spoilers please!

General Patton: SLAP!
Mikey Moore Character: Ow!
Heh

422 seekeroftruth  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:22:34pm

OT - My son came home talking about Reagan causing the sub prime mortgage problem because of deregulation. He was hearing this from a friend. Does anyone have on information that doesn't come from Huffington Post? Thanks!

423 alegrias  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:22:41pm

re: #393 Celtic Templar

Today's tale of the tape: lost 6% out of my stocks, gained 4% in gold - net loss 2%.

* * *
Dollar cost averaging helps even out the ups & downs.

No one do anything crazy please--and our country's books are more transparent that other countries' so take heart.

424 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:22:43pm

re: #380 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I wrote Copland, then stuck in the e because it didn't sound right. I stand corrected,

425 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:22:47pm

re: #416 DisturbedEma

Funny thing about that Constitution he was is determined to destroy. It actually protects him.

426 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:22:58pm
427 yochanan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:23:23pm

re: #418 Dianna

There are plenty of right-wing populists. They tend to be isolationists and fond of the gold standard, and terribly, terribly nostalgic for a world that never existed, but they definitely exist. They tend to think that I'm a "country-club Republican", never mind that I don't have either the money for the background to be any such thing.

AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE PAT PUKEANAN AND DAVID DUKE right wing populists can also be called neo fascists.

428 Dianna  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:23:32pm

re: #404 Walter L. Newton

Yeah. Sort of.

The infection that gave me breathing problems didn't quite clear up. So, here I am again.

I'm really tired of not being able to breathe, having a screaming headache, and feeling weak.

429 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:23:52pm

re: #412 Kenneth

No it's not a statute of limitations thing. Ayers was charged with various crimes but the prosecution screwed up and the case was thrown out for "prosecutorial misconduct". A new trial could not be held because of the "double jeopardy" rule.

Maybe Lawhawk could explain the justice of this to our non-legal minds...


Wasn't it an illegal wiretap or something of that nature?

430 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:23:55pm

I got canvassed by an Obamanite again today. She asked whether she could put a flyer on my door telling people that today is the last day to register to vote. Since it had Obama logos on it, I gave her my usual polite speech about remaining neutral here at the shop because I have customers on both sides. She said, "OK, I won't argue." I could tell she wanted to, though.

I saw that she put one up on the window of the vacancy next door. Somebody came along and scrawled on it, "Obama=Communist." Heh.

431 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 1:24:02pm