who knew?

tonite will be interesting -only- if Sen. John McCain presses n(0)bama on his connections.

"Any song by Johnny Cash."

I.e., he doesn't know any country songs, just a few singers' names.

Better polish that resume up Mark.

Off to the reeducation camp, Halperin!

/this is the year zero

Hammer this home, Mac!

It's time to go to the mattresses.

Media ayers Obama's past!

Color me shocked.

re: #8 TheMatrix31

Color me shocked.

"Color?"

RACIST!

Interesting day... First one of the NOW prominent women endorsed McCain. CNN had a good piece/show on Ayres and Obama and the day is not even over for most of us.

re: #10 winston06

Interesting day... First one of the NOW prominent women endorsed McCain. CNN had a good piece/show on Ayres and Obama and the day is not even over for most of us.

Who endorsed McCain?!?

Obama condemns terrorist acts but doesn't judge?

Huh?

Hillary is probably pretty pissed that they didn't start reporting this during the Primaries.

If I were the MSM, I'd start watching my back if the Clintons re-ascend to the top of the Democrat party.

re: #9 Ward Cleaver

"Color?"

RACIST!

Reminds me of when my boss used to work at another Baskin-Robbins. Someone asked for colored sprinkles and he gave them chocolate. LOL.

re: #6 loppyd

Hammer this home, Mac!

It's time to go to the mattresses.

This issue really needs to be brought to the fore. Although it may not convince the hard-core leftiests (I know, I have one in my office), it will make the independents think, "Do we really want someone in the Oval Office who palls around with domestic terrorists?".

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

"Any song by Johnny Cash."

I.e., he doesn't know any country songs, just a few singers' names.

Notice he grabbed onto Halperin's toss tof "ring of fire" - like he listens to country music.

The journalist is asking the wrong questions. It is not about "deploring" Ayers' past actions--it is about how much Ayers' past ideology informs his current actions, and how closely Obama shares that ideology. It is not about "association," but about working together.

Just watched that on the last thread! Glad it got its own room.

That turkey was twisting like he had a corncob up his [censored].
Good one, Halperin!
Flying Pig Nomination!

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

This issue really needs to be brought to the fore. Although it may not convince the hard-core leftiests (I know, I have one in my office), it will make the independents think, "Do we really want someone in the Oval Office who palls around with domestic terrorists?".

'Zactly!

re: #14 TheMatrix31

Reminds me of when my boss used to work at another Baskin-Robbins. Someone asked for colored sprinkles and he gave them chocolate. LOL.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"These are not the despicable acts I knew."

re: #10 winston06

Interesting day... First one of the NOW prominent women endorsed McCain. CNN had a good piece/show on Ayres and Obama and the day is not even over for most of us.

That's impressive. We're even getting through to some of them finally. Of course, you know, this means the NOW person will now be sent for re-education.

re: #11 Ward Cleaver

one of the top women in NOW.. I can find u the link.

So were they lying yesterday or lying today?

Or both?

I'm sure some sharp cookie at the "debate" tonight will praise The Messiah on this.

He'll disappear by nightfall.

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

This issue really needs to be brought to the fore. Although it may not convince the hard-core leftiests (I know, I have one in my office), it will make the independents think, "Do we really want someone in the Oval Office who palls around with domestic terrorists?".

Maybe this will get June's uncles (Ill. voters) off of Obama. The aunts are all pro-life and voting for McCain.

re: #22 Honorary Yooper

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

The journalist is asking the wrong questions. It is not about "deploring" Ayers' past actions--it is about how much Ayers' past ideology informs his current actions, and how closely Obama shares that ideology. It is not about "association," but about working together.

Very true, very true, but this is a start.

re: #27 winston06

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

And she was immediately disavowed by NOW!

re: #24 JammieWearingFool

So were they lying yesterday or lying today?

Or both?

I'm sure some sharp cookie at the "debate" tonight will praise The Messiah on this.

He and the terrorist were working for the children, after all.

Knew? Heck, it was probably celebrated amongs the Chicago Cognoscenti Community Organizing Communists.

Is this a great country or what, the way terrorists are rehabilitated & become presidential advisers.

I would have respected the guy a lot more if he'd said, "well, I don't have a favorite country song because country music just isn't my thing." It would have been a single raisin of honesty.

re: #25 bosforus

He'll disappear by nightfall.

You betrayed me Fredo.

re: #27 winston06

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

That almost reads like an Onion article. One of the NAGs calling Palin a feminist?

What got into Time Magazine’s Mark Halperin? A journalist asking persistent questions about The One? This will never do.

At some point, it might happen that some of the MSM might see that Mr. 0bama is not going to win; then they might turn on him so that they will not be tainted with supporting a loser, which they think might diminish their precious "power".

Hock

*tooey*

That interview underscores the whole problem with the Ayres argument: it takes too long to get to the point to resonate with the average voter. Patrick Ruffini at TheNextRight has been arguing that the ACORN connection is a stronger point to make, as well as going back to the successful tack of attacking him as a celebrity. It's worth considering.

re: #33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You betrayed me Fredo.

"Let's go out on the lake."

/blam

/splash

re: #33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You betrayed me Fredo.

Never take sides against the familuy again! By the way do you want to go fishing?

Wow, it does not look like obama has any way out of this one.

re: #37 Ward Cleaver

"Let's go out on the lake."

/blam

/splash

YOU BROKE MY HEART, FREDO!

re: #38 Nevergiveup

Never take sides against the familuy again! By the way do you want to go fishing?

GMTA!

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

Gibbs did look a little clammy when pressed by Halperin.

It's gonna get a whole lot clammier, Mr. Gibbs...

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He knew?

I didn't see that one coming....

McCain's priorities for tonite

First, Demonstrate economic competence/superiority:
1. lower taxes
2. drill, baby, drill
3. expanded free trade
4. smart regulation and reform of the current curruption (I'm looking at you Chris Dodd & Barney F.)

Second, McCain needs to lampoon BHO's economic polocies:
1. All talk on regulation, with no action.
2. Tie the Dems to the housing bubble/sub-prime crisis
3. Compare calls for more protectionism & taxes as follies that led to the great depression
4. Remind the public of BHO's complicity in Fannie/Freddie campaign contributions, his $300K of graff from Rezko when buying a home, and his sweetheart loan deal.

Third, go after Ayers

If this had been done months ago, it would be a big shrug. BHO's reopsonse should have been, "So what, I knew Bill Ayres, but he never influenced my thinking or decisions."

Now that he has committed to the "I never really knew him or what he had been" theme, this little tid bit will serve to show that BHO is a political opportunist of the first order. We really do not know WHAT he thinks or how he makes decisions. Anyone who could embarrass him has been dumped or denied. Either he is a true believer in this form of radicalism or he is an opportunist. Either one cuts against him.

A friend sent me the following email. I'd like suggestions how to respond to him. LOL

Yesterday Sarah Palin accused Barak Obama of "palling around with terrorists". Obama lives in the same Chicago neighborhood of former Weather Underground co-founder Bill Ayers. Ayers has a past that includes acts against the American establishment, and possible violence. Bill Ayers is now a professor at The University of Chicago and a Democratic Party Activist. I don't know if Ayers has recanted his years with the Weather Underground or not. I do know that somehow he's managed to rise the ladder of the establishment he once denounced and is not in prison. Ten years ago Ayers hosted a fund-raiser in his home for Barak Obama's legislative candidicy under the auspices of the Illinois State Democratic Party . Obama, as well as several members of the Illinois and Chicago political establishment attended. Later, Obama sat on the board of a charity Ayers sat on, The Chicago Annenberg Challenge who's goals are to improve educational opportunites for Chicago school kids. Anyone familiar with any of the Annenberg Foundation's charitable branches nation-wide will know how valuable, mainstream and apolitical this charity is. Their mission is education. This includes television programs that teach triganometry, oreign languages, art history, mechanics, biology, etc.
Obama admits to seeing Ayers on the streets in their Chicago neighborhood and saying hello. Beyond this there are no known ties between Ayers and Obama. In fact Obama has decried the action of Ayers who was at his most politically active when Obama was 8 years old and living in Hawaii. The ironic thing is that Palin refered to a New York Times investigative story that once again found that Obama has no real ties, or political sympathies with Ayers. The entire focus of Palin's words seem to be to plant doubt in the minds of voters who have no access to the Times article, or who are not likely to ollow-up on these accusations. I say a smear is a smear whether you support Obama or McCain or anyone else. Personally, I'm tired of the sleazy depths American politics has lowered itself into. I'm especially ashamed for McCain, who was an American hero and until recently above partisan bickering.
On the other hand, we know that McCain has indeed taken money from and supported Charles Keating, who was at the center of one of the nations biggest financial frauds. There's no escaping that McCain was "palling around" with someone who's actions and motives were to swindle the American public and taxpayers. Rather than the insinuation Palin has made in order to plant doubt and fear in voters minds about Barak Obama here's a link that contains a factual information about McCain's involvement with Charles Keating.
Oh yes...the McCain campaign are once again invoking Obama's full name 'Barak Hussein Obama' in order to frighten Americans. Perhaps we should consider that McCain's full name is Jonathan Sidney McCain III. That doesn't exactly sound like the name of a man of the people either. Let's demand honesty in our politics.Ayers

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

re: #42 JammieWearingFool

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

She's in William Jefferson's freezer?

re: #42 JammieWearingFool

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

It must be killing her, too.

That was Robert Gibbs, Sr. Consultant to Obama Campaign. Next time you see him, look for tire marks and bus paint.

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

She's in William Jefferson's freezer?

She's cold as ice.

re: #39 MrSnuggles

Wow, it does not look like obama has any way out of this one.

Thinking of the scene from Aliens:

Obama: MSNBC, WE ARE LEAVING!

/reporters popping out of the walls asking about Ayers

WAB: WHERE'S BIDEN? WHERE'S BIDEN?

Obama: Gaffe's dead, lets get the f*** outta here!

re: #35 Ojoe

At some point, it might happen that some of the MSM might see that Mr. 0bama is not going to win; then they might turn on him so that they will not be tainted with supporting a loser, which they think might diminish their precious "power".

Hock

*tooey*

They will turn on him if they feel they have been lied to. If BHO's inconvenient truths keep surfacing, the MSM will have to turn or they will look like bigger fools.

re: #29 Nevergiveup

And she was immediately disavowed by NOW!

And she said, up front, that she was acting solely as an individual in making that endorsement. Still, it took courage.

My hat's off to Mandel. I stood up about halfway through watching her speak, and remained standing.

re: #49 loppyd

It must be killing her, too.

He can't throw her under the bus. Besides, she's the one driving.

re: #50 USA

lol

re: #47 Teacake!

Tell him that this late in the campaign, enormous vats of free political kool-aid are set out on every street corner.

Drink up, tell him, your favorite flavor is there somewhere.

re: #51 JammieWearingFool

She's cold as ice.

She's willing to sacrfice their love?

re: #34 Ward Cleaver

What matters is that level headed Leftists can see who Obama really is.

re: #47 Teacake!

Good Lord. Where to begin. The mind boggles.

I wonder how many of Obama's aids know who "helped" Obama write Dreams from My Father. Halperin should ask that question.

re: #51 JammieWearingFool

She's cold as ice.

And if you kiss her real fast, you get an ice-cream headache.

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

She's in William Jefferson's freezer?

LOL!

re: #61 USA

Rev. God damn America wrote it. I have no doubt about that

Let me see if I have this straight- it's okay to work with a terrorist as long as you don't like him a whole lot?
I think I know why Obama wants to meet dictators now. Lots of resource-rich countries with dirt-cheap labour to exploit are run by monsters. I see.

re: #55 JammieWearingFool

He can't throw her under the bus. Besides, she's the one driving.

And she could kick his ass.

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

She's willing to sacrfice their love?

I remember a video of that song on SNL, with a woman killing a man (Stacy Keach, maybe?) in numerous different ways, in slow motion. Creepy.

Well if this goes by the Rev Wright script, Ayers will go the the National Press Club and declare that he supports Al Qaeda so that Obama can fully denounce him.

re: #42 JammieWearingFool

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

I've had a fantasy of duct-taping a claymore to the upper-right-hand corner of the monitor -- to use for really serious updinging.

I would have lost my whole apartment on that post.

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

She's willing to sacrfice their love?

She never takes advice.

re: #61 USA

I wonder how many of Obama's aids know who "helped" Obama write Dreams from My Father. Halperin should ask that question.

Funny you should mention that. I am watching "Flags of Our Fathers" right now. Quite a contrast I'd say!

re: #66 loppyd

And she could kick his skinny ass.

Fixed.

re: #27 winston06

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

I think for the purposes of voting it's the same thing?

Gibbs referring to Obama:
"He's not a judge."
Yeah, presidents don't have to make judgments. That would just be silly.
/

We are to believe that Barack Hussein Obama is so intelligent as to learn what is necessary from a two year presndential campaign, while a freshman senator, yet he is not smart enough to know who Bill Ayers was.

A disconnect that reminds me of their argument that Bush is an Idiot, but an Idiot who could masternind the 9/11 attacks, including wiring the two largest buildings with demolotions while nobody noticed the workman.

sorry, I don't buy the liberal logic once again

"thats not the Robert Gibbs I knew"

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

Fixed.

Not SKINNY! NARROW!
/you have to get the vernacular right

Iowahawk's latest!

The Three R's - Educating Yourself With UIC Professor Bill Ayers and more

Dear Professor Ayers:

I have two children, ages 11 and 14, and I am interested in setting up an Illinois educational savings account for pay for their college expenses. Can these savings accounts be used for private or out-of state colleges? What are the relevant tax and eligibility rules I should consider?

Mary Ellen in Lombard

Dear Mary Ellen: Your question is borne of bourgeois ignorance and manufactured consent. A violent revolution is coming, and the workers will throw off the chains of their oppression and rise up in a bloody revolt against AmeriKKKa's legacy of racism, genocide, and hegemonic corporatist empire. In the coming revolution, the state and its propagandist education apparatus will wither away, thus ushering in a new age of proletarian enlightenment. All education will be free, and all children, including yours, will be rescued from their bourgeois shackles and freed to join the vanguard for permanent revolution.

But if this doesn't happen by their sophomore year in high school, you might want to check some of the scholarship programs at UIC. We have over two dozen government financial aid packages right here in the UIC College of Education. Go Flames!

Ya know, although BO was 8 when this man committed his acts of terrorism, I find it incredible that ANYONE brushes off his association with him as no big deal now. I wonder if they would be saying the same thing if he made friends with, say, Charles Manson, Ted Kaczynski (sp), Tim McVeigh or Eric Rudolph? (pretending here that they are not in prison or dead, but living in BO's neighborhood after they got out.) What the hell is the difference. And, whatever happened bu being judged by the company you keep?

re: #74 bosforus

Gibbs referring to Obama:
"He's not a judge."
Yeah, presidents don't have to make judgments. That would just be silly.
/

/If Biden doesn't quite understand what the V-P does, do you think Obama understands what the President does? It ain't all making pretty speeches.

Mark Halperin works for Time Magazine?

Not any more he doesn't.

re: #16 loppyd

Notice he grabbed onto Halperin's toss tof "ring of fire" - like he listens to country music.

I have two versions of Ring of Fire on my iPod - one by Cash, and one by the Animals.

re: #33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You betrayed me Fredo.

"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."

Obama is Kimbo Slice

re: #81 Last Mohican

Mark Halperin works for Time Magazine?

Not any more he doesn't.

So,
Time, Time, Time isn't on his side?
:D

Does anyone smell a cigar in this?

Now, it may not be a lit cigar. It may actually smell like, dare I say, sea-creatures?

re: #47 Teacake!

Here are a few points to start you off.

1. Ayers has not repudiated his actions. He is quoted as saying "I don't believe we did enough."

2. Ayers' education reform is founded on the principle that revolutionary change is best initiated by indoctrinating young children and teaching them to challenge authority, stage protests, and think of the world in terms of white privilege vs. third world oppression. These were the goals of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. $100 million later, not one child was helped by any of the programs that were funded. Test scores were just as low if not lower than they had been previously. In other words, a bunch of impoverished black children were deprived of an education that could have helped them move forward in life in the name of radical Marxist ideology.

3. John McCain was completely vindicated of all wrongdoing by a Democrat-led investigation. The $112,000 he received from Keating was donated to the U.S. Treasury. In fact, this was McCain's motivation to work on campaign finance reform.

And that's just off the top of my head. Your friend is ill-informed and prone to moral equivalence, to say the least.

re: #47 Teacake!

Out on the front page is a post from late yesterday.

This is a beginning.

re: #70 OldLineTexan

She never takes advice.

Someday she'll pay the price.

I know.

re: #74 bosforus

Gibbs referring to Obama:
"He's not a judge."
Yeah, presidents don't have to make judgments. That would just be silly.
/

Apparently judging people, or judging their actions, or even having an opinion about anything that someone might conceivably disagree with, is above Obama's pay grade.

Sometimes I just stare out the window, and wonder if the sky and the ground are about to switch places, because that would make about as much sense as Barack Obama being nominated for president (and, it would seem, being on his way to victory).

Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope...

Actually, this was kind of cheering. But right now, I'll take anything.

On the radio, I heard some apologist from the Chicago Tribune criticizing Palin for saying Obama palled around with "terrorists, as if there was more than one."

It reminded me of Ayers' charming wife and this quote:

In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World revolutionaries conquer and destroy it. Taking charge of the podium, dressed in a high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast." Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!

Embarrassed today by this memory, but unable to expunge it from the record and unwilling to repudiate her terrorist deeds, Dorhn resorts to the lie direct. "It was a joke,"

Palin was exactly correct. TERRORISTS!

No one really thinks Obama is stupid!
He just thinks everyone else in the USA is!
This ass clown needs to go down in smoke nov 5th!
Or I'll have to take up smoking again....not cig....

Who is the main being interviewed in the video. On Hot Air's site they just mention his last name, Gibbs. Who is he, what's his full name?

One theory - the Democrat party might be having some buyers remorse.
crazy frogmarch theory: The economy is tanking. Obama (if elected) will blame Bush for a few years but eventually, with his high taxes and his free government run universal health care, with Iran going crazy, with one-party corruption going nuts, our economy will be in shambles and the democrats will be holding the bag. The progressive/socialist movement will be as good as trash. Look into the future my friends. The dems want utopia - but it doesn't exist. No matter, the democrats will kill us all (financially and spiritually) attempting to get us there. I think a few people on the left can sense reality.

re: #61 USA

I wonder how many of Obama's aids know who "helped" Obama write Dreams from My Father. Halperin should ask that question.

I read about that yesterday. Very intriguing. There is computer software that can analyze two works and tell you if they came from the same individual. It was the key to solving a murder disguised as suicide on an episode of Forensic Files.

re: #47 Teacake!

A friend sent me the following email. I'd like suggestions how to respond to him. LOL

1) Ayers is at the University of Illinois at Chicago (public university), not the University of Chicago (private university).

2) Ayers hired Obama to head the Annenberg Challenge. This hire is what gave Obama his political start.

3) Ayers also worked with Obama on the Woods Foundation board.

4) The Annenberg Challenge gave money to programs which favored ideological "diversity" and "race" training over supporting teaching of math, reading, etc.

5) The Woods Foundation gave money to Obama's church, to Rev. Pfleger, to the pro-Palestinian Arab advocacy group founded by former PLO employee Rashid Khalidi (who brought Ahmedinejad to Columbia), and run by Khalidi's wife.

6) Ayers is totally unrepentant over his bombing activities, and mendacious about the Weathermen's desire not to hurt anyone. When his girlfriend and two others were killed preparing a bomb Ayers designed, it was an antipersonnel nail bomb intended for a soldier's dance at Fort Dix.

7) McCain's connection to the Keating Five is old history--and irrelevant both in light of the fact that he was cleared and that another member of the Keating Five, John Glenn, is stumping Ohio for Obama. If Glenn is good enough to support Obama, McCain's connection to the same scandal is not an issue.

8) Obama is deeply connected to the current financial problems plaguing the nation. He is connected to ACORN, which is responsible for pushing banks to make subprime mortgages to people who could not pay them. He has received more money from Fannie Mae than any other Senator except Chris Dodd--even though he is a junior Senator who has only been in the Senate two years. He has Fannie executives who pocketed millions on his advisory staff--the same people who guaranteed the worthless mortgages pushed by ACORN, which put Fannie and Freddie on the ropes.

9) McCain tried to stop the subprime debacle in 2005, with a bill that alas did not make it through Congress. Obama was saying that everything was OK with the subprime mortgages as late as last year, and has never condemned the practices of Fannie, Freddie, or ACORN.

Attn Michiganders

Just heard on the News today that Your and My Governor, the one and only Jennifer Granholm is on the short list to be an Obama Supreme court nominee.

So I am voting for Obama.

Anything to get rid of her

/

re: #90 Last Mohican

Apparently judging people, or judging their actions, or even having an opinion about anything that someone might conceivably disagree with, is above Obama's pay grade.

/It's the ultimate triumph of moral relativism, which has been gaining ground the past few decades. So someone is a terrorist. Well, he's a person too!

(Especially, he's a person who can help launch a political career.)

"Any song by Johnny Cash"

Wrong..The correct answer is I'll Get Along Somehow by Ernest Tubb

OT - at the bookstore today glancing at the magazine section. what do I see? the current cover of Newsweek has a VERY unflattering photo of Sarah Palin along with a very unflattering title.

re: #29 Nevergiveup

you bet she was

re: #96 doppelganglander

I don't pretend to know for sure who wrote it. But I would bet half of what is left in my stock portfolio that it was not Obama by himself. He is not a writer and the book is well written. Ayers is a very plausible ghost.

re: #98 Shug

Attn Michiganders

Just heard on the News today that Your and My Governor, the one and only Jennifer Granholm is on the short list to be an Obama Supreme court nominee.

So I am voting for Obama.

Anything to get rid of her

/

/So Granholm can screw up the rest of