who knew?

tonite will be interesting -only- if Sen. John McCain presses n(0)bama on his connections.

Better polish that resume up Mark.

Off to the reeducation camp, Halperin!

/this is the year zero

Hammer this home, Mac!

It's time to go to the mattresses.

Color me shocked.

re: #8 TheMatrix31

Color me shocked.

"Color?"

RACIST!

Interesting day... First one of the NOW prominent women endorsed McCain. CNN had a good piece/show on Ayres and Obama and the day is not even over for most of us.

re: #10 winston06

Interesting day... First one of the NOW prominent women endorsed McCain. CNN had a good piece/show on Ayres and Obama and the day is not even over for most of us.

Who endorsed McCain?!?

Obama condemns terrorist acts but doesn't judge?

Huh?

Hillary is probably pretty pissed that they didn't start reporting this during the Primaries.

If I were the MSM, I'd start watching my back if the Clintons re-ascend to the top of the Democrat party.

re: #9 Ward Cleaver

"Color?"

RACIST!

Reminds me of when my boss used to work at another Baskin-Robbins. Someone asked for colored sprinkles and he gave them chocolate. LOL.

re: #6 loppyd

Hammer this home, Mac!

It's time to go to the mattresses.

This issue really needs to be brought to the fore. Although it may not convince the hard-core leftiests (I know, I have one in my office), it will make the independents think, "Do we really want someone in the Oval Office who palls around with domestic terrorists?".

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

"Any song by Johnny Cash."

I.e., he doesn't know any country songs, just a few singers' names.

Notice he grabbed onto Halperin's toss tof "ring of fire" - like he listens to country music.

Just watched that on the last thread! Glad it got its own room.

That turkey was twisting like he had a corncob up his [censored].
Good one, Halperin!
Flying Pig Nomination!

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

This issue really needs to be brought to the fore. Although it may not convince the hard-core leftiests (I know, I have one in my office), it will make the independents think, "Do we really want someone in the Oval Office who palls around with domestic terrorists?".

'Zactly!

re: #14 TheMatrix31

Reminds me of when my boss used to work at another Baskin-Robbins. Someone asked for colored sprinkles and he gave them chocolate. LOL.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"These are not the despicable acts I knew."

re: #10 winston06

Interesting day... First one of the NOW prominent women endorsed McCain. CNN had a good piece/show on Ayres and Obama and the day is not even over for most of us.

That's impressive. We're even getting through to some of them finally. Of course, you know, this means the NOW person will now be sent for re-education.

re: #11 Ward Cleaver

one of the top women in NOW.. I can find u the link.

So were they lying yesterday or lying today?

Or both?

I'm sure some sharp cookie at the "debate" tonight will praise The Messiah on this.

He'll disappear by nightfall.

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

This issue really needs to be brought to the fore. Although it may not convince the hard-core leftiests (I know, I have one in my office), it will make the independents think, "Do we really want someone in the Oval Office who palls around with domestic terrorists?".

Maybe this will get June's uncles (Ill. voters) off of Obama. The aunts are all pro-life and voting for McCain.

re: #22 Honorary Yooper

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

The journalist is asking the wrong questions. It is not about "deploring" Ayers' past actions--it is about how much Ayers' past ideology informs his current actions, and how closely Obama shares that ideology. It is not about "association," but about working together.

Very true, very true, but this is a start.

re: #27 winston06

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

And she was immediately disavowed by NOW!

re: #24 JammieWearingFool

So were they lying yesterday or lying today?

Or both?

I'm sure some sharp cookie at the "debate" tonight will praise The Messiah on this.

He and the terrorist were working for the children, after all.

Knew? Heck, it was probably celebrated amongs the Chicago Cognoscenti Community Organizing Communists.

Is this a great country or what, the way terrorists are rehabilitated & become presidential advisers.

re: #25 bosforus

He'll disappear by nightfall.

You betrayed me Fredo.

re: #27 winston06

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

That almost reads like an Onion article. One of the NAGs calling Palin a feminist?

What got into Time Magazine’s Mark Halperin? A journalist asking persistent questions about The One? This will never do.

At some point, it might happen that some of the MSM might see that Mr. 0bama is not going to win; then they might turn on him so that they will not be tainted with supporting a loser, which they think might diminish their precious "power".

Hock

*tooey*

That interview underscores the whole problem with the Ayres argument: it takes too long to get to the point to resonate with the average voter. Patrick Ruffini at TheNextRight has been arguing that the ACORN connection is a stronger point to make, as well as going back to the successful tack of attacking him as a celebrity. It's worth considering.

re: #33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You betrayed me Fredo.

"Let's go out on the lake."

/blam

/splash

re: #33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You betrayed me Fredo.

Never take sides against the familuy again! By the way do you want to go fishing?

Wow, it does not look like obama has any way out of this one.

re: #37 Ward Cleaver

"Let's go out on the lake."

/blam

/splash

YOU BROKE MY HEART, FREDO!

re: #38 Nevergiveup

Never take sides against the familuy again! By the way do you want to go fishing?

GMTA!

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

Gibbs did look a little clammy when pressed by Halperin.

It's gonna get a whole lot clammier, Mr. Gibbs...

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He knew?

I didn't see that one coming....

McCain's priorities for tonite

First, Demonstrate economic competence/superiority:
1. lower taxes
2. drill, baby, drill
3. expanded free trade
4. smart regulation and reform of the current curruption (I'm looking at you Chris Dodd & Barney F.)

Second, McCain needs to lampoon BHO's economic polocies:
1. All talk on regulation, with no action.
2. Tie the Dems to the housing bubble/sub-prime crisis
3. Compare calls for more protectionism & taxes as follies that led to the great depression
4. Remind the public of BHO's complicity in Fannie/Freddie campaign contributions, his $300K of graff from Rezko when buying a home, and his sweetheart loan deal.

Third, go after Ayers

If this had been done months ago, it would be a big shrug. BHO's reopsonse should have been, "So what, I knew Bill Ayres, but he never influenced my thinking or decisions."

Now that he has committed to the "I never really knew him or what he had been" theme, this little tid bit will serve to show that BHO is a political opportunist of the first order. We really do not know WHAT he thinks or how he makes decisions. Anyone who could embarrass him has been dumped or denied. Either he is a true believer in this form of radicalism or he is an opportunist. Either one cuts against him.

A friend sent me the following email. I'd like suggestions how to respond to him. LOL

Yesterday Sarah Palin accused Barak Obama of "palling around with terrorists". Obama lives in the same Chicago neighborhood of former Weather Underground co-founder Bill Ayers. Ayers has a past that includes acts against the American establishment, and possible violence. Bill Ayers is now a professor at The University of Chicago and a Democratic Party Activist. I don't know if Ayers has recanted his years with the Weather Underground or not. I do know that somehow he's managed to rise the ladder of the establishment he once denounced and is not in prison. Ten years ago Ayers hosted a fund-raiser in his home for Barak Obama's legislative candidicy under the auspices of the Illinois State Democratic Party . Obama, as well as several members of the Illinois and Chicago political establishment attended. Later, Obama sat on the board of a charity Ayers sat on, The Chicago Annenberg Challenge who's goals are to improve educational opportunites for Chicago school kids. Anyone familiar with any of the Annenberg Foundation's charitable branches nation-wide will know how valuable, mainstream and apolitical this charity is. Their mission is education. This includes television programs that teach triganometry, oreign languages, art history, mechanics, biology, etc.
Obama admits to seeing Ayers on the streets in their Chicago neighborhood and saying hello. Beyond this there are no known ties between Ayers and Obama. In fact Obama has decried the action of Ayers who was at his most politically active when Obama was 8 years old and living in Hawaii. The ironic thing is that Palin refered to a New York Times investigative story that once again found that Obama has no real ties, or political sympathies with Ayers. The entire focus of Palin's words seem to be to plant doubt in the minds of voters who have no access to the Times article, or who are not likely to ollow-up on these accusations. I say a smear is a smear whether you support Obama or McCain or anyone else. Personally, I'm tired of the sleazy depths American politics has lowered itself into. I'm especially ashamed for McCain, who was an American hero and until recently above partisan bickering.
On the other hand, we know that McCain has indeed taken money from and supported Charles Keating, who was at the center of one of the nations biggest financial frauds. There's no escaping that McCain was "palling around" with someone who's actions and motives were to swindle the American public and taxpayers. Rather than the insinuation Palin has made in order to plant doubt and fear in voters minds about Barak Obama here's a link that contains a factual information about McCain's involvement with Charles Keating.
Oh yes...the McCain campaign are once again invoking Obama's full name 'Barak Hussein Obama' in order to frighten Americans. Perhaps we should consider that McCain's full name is Jonathan Sidney McCain III. That doesn't exactly sound like the name of a man of the people either. Let's demand honesty in our politics.Ayers

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

re: #42 JammieWearingFool

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

She's in William Jefferson's freezer?

re: #42 JammieWearingFool

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

It must be killing her, too.

That was Robert Gibbs, Sr. Consultant to Obama Campaign. Next time you see him, look for tire marks and bus paint.

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

She's in William Jefferson's freezer?

She's cold as ice.

re: #39 MrSnuggles

Wow, it does not look like obama has any way out of this one.

Thinking of the scene from Aliens:

Obama: MSNBC, WE ARE LEAVING!

/reporters popping out of the walls asking about Ayers

WAB: WHERE'S BIDEN? WHERE'S BIDEN?

Obama: Gaffe's dead, lets get the f*** outta here!

re: #35 Ojoe

At some point, it might happen that some of the MSM might see that Mr. 0bama is not going to win; then they might turn on him so that they will not be tainted with supporting a loser, which they think might diminish their precious "power".

Hock

*tooey*

They will turn on him if they feel they have been lied to. If BHO's inconvenient truths keep surfacing, the MSM will have to turn or they will look like bigger fools.

re: #29 Nevergiveup

And she was immediately disavowed by NOW!

And she said, up front, that she was acting solely as an individual in making that endorsement. Still, it took courage.

My hat's off to Mandel. I stood up about halfway through watching her speak, and remained standing.

re: #49 loppyd

It must be killing her, too.

He can't throw her under the bus. Besides, she's the one driving.

re: #50 USA

lol

re: #47 Teacake!

Tell him that this late in the campaign, enormous vats of free political kool-aid are set out on every street corner.

Drink up, tell him, your favorite flavor is there somewhere.

re: #51 JammieWearingFool

She's cold as ice.

She's willing to sacrfice their love?

re: #34 Ward Cleaver

What matters is that level headed Leftists can see who Obama really is.

re: #47 Teacake!

Good Lord. Where to begin. The mind boggles.

I wonder how many of Obama's aids know who "helped" Obama write Dreams from My Father. Halperin should ask that question.

re: #51 JammieWearingFool

She's cold as ice.

And if you kiss her real fast, you get an ice-cream headache.

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

She's in William Jefferson's freezer?

LOL!

re: #61 USA

Rev. God damn America wrote it. I have no doubt about that

Let me see if I have this straight- it's okay to work with a terrorist as long as you don't like him a whole lot?
I think I know why Obama wants to meet dictators now. Lots of resource-rich countries with dirt-cheap labour to exploit are run by monsters. I see.

re: #55 JammieWearingFool

He can't throw her under the bus. Besides, she's the one driving.

And she could kick his ass.

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

She's willing to sacrfice their love?

I remember a video of that song on SNL, with a woman killing a man (Stacy Keach, maybe?) in numerous different ways, in slow motion. Creepy.

Well if this goes by the Rev Wright script, Ayers will go the the National Press Club and declare that he supports Al Qaeda so that Obama can fully denounce him.

re: #42 JammieWearingFool

What nobody wants to talk about is Michelle Obama is the one more closely associated with Ayers ideologically. The empty suit is just the vehicle.

No wonder they have her in storage.

I've had a fantasy of duct-taping a claymore to the upper-right-hand corner of the monitor -- to use for really serious updinging.

I would have lost my whole apartment on that post.

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

She's willing to sacrfice their love?

She never takes advice.

re: #61 USA

I wonder how many of Obama's aids know who "helped" Obama write Dreams from My Father. Halperin should ask that question.

Funny you should mention that. I am watching "Flags of Our Fathers" right now. Quite a contrast I'd say!

re: #66 loppyd

And she could kick his skinny ass.

Fixed.

re: #27 winston06

She endorsed Palin. Sorry I was wrong. NOW woman endorsed Gov Palin

here is the link
[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

I think for the purposes of voting it's the same thing?

Gibbs referring to Obama:
"He's not a judge."
Yeah, presidents don't have to make judgments. That would just be silly.
/

We are to believe that Barack Hussein Obama is so intelligent as to learn what is necessary from a two year presndential campaign, while a freshman senator, yet he is not smart enough to know who Bill Ayers was.

A disconnect that reminds me of their argument that Bush is an Idiot, but an Idiot who could masternind the 9/11 attacks, including wiring the two largest buildings with demolotions while nobody noticed the workman.

sorry, I don't buy the liberal logic once again

"thats not the Robert Gibbs I knew"

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

Fixed.

Not SKINNY! NARROW!
/you have to get the vernacular right

Iowahawk's latest!

The Three R's - Educating Yourself With UIC Professor Bill Ayers and more

Dear Professor Ayers:

I have two children, ages 11 and 14, and I am interested in setting up an Illinois educational savings account for pay for their college expenses. Can these savings accounts be used for private or out-of state colleges? What are the relevant tax and eligibility rules I should consider?

Mary Ellen in Lombard

Dear Mary Ellen: Your question is borne of bourgeois ignorance and manufactured consent. A violent revolution is coming, and the workers will throw off the chains of their oppression and rise up in a bloody revolt against AmeriKKKa's legacy of racism, genocide, and hegemonic corporatist empire. In the coming revolution, the state and its propagandist education apparatus will wither away, thus ushering in a new age of proletarian enlightenment. All education will be free, and all children, including yours, will be rescued from their bourgeois shackles and freed to join the vanguard for permanent revolution.

But if this doesn't happen by their sophomore year in high school, you might want to check some of the scholarship programs at UIC. We have over two dozen government financial aid packages right here in the UIC College of Education. Go Flames!

Ya know, although BO was 8 when this man committed his acts of terrorism, I find it incredible that ANYONE brushes off his association with him as no big deal now. I wonder if they would be saying the same thing if he made friends with, say, Charles Manson, Ted Kaczynski (sp), Tim McVeigh or Eric Rudolph? (pretending here that they are not in prison or dead, but living in BO's neighborhood after they got out.) What the hell is the difference. And, whatever happened bu being judged by the company you keep?

re: #74 bosforus

Gibbs referring to Obama:
"He's not a judge."
Yeah, presidents don't have to make judgments. That would just be silly.
/

/If Biden doesn't quite understand what the V-P does, do you think Obama understands what the President does? It ain't all making pretty speeches.

Mark Halperin works for Time Magazine?

Not any more he doesn't.

re: #16 loppyd

Notice he grabbed onto Halperin's toss tof "ring of fire" - like he listens to country music.

I have two versions of Ring of Fire on my iPod - one by Cash, and one by the Animals.

re: #33 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You betrayed me Fredo.

"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."

Obama is Kimbo Slice

re: #81 Last Mohican

Mark Halperin works for Time Magazine?

Not any more he doesn't.

So,
Time, Time, Time isn't on his side?
:D

Does anyone smell a cigar in this?

Now, it may not be a lit cigar. It may actually smell like, dare I say, sea-creatures?

re: #47 Teacake!

Here are a few points to start you off.

1. Ayers has not repudiated his actions. He is quoted as saying "I don't believe we did enough."

2. Ayers' education reform is founded on the principle that revolutionary change is best initiated by indoctrinating young children and teaching them to challenge authority, stage protests, and think of the world in terms of white privilege vs. third world oppression. These were the goals of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. $100 million later, not one child was helped by any of the programs that were funded. Test scores were just as low if not lower than they had been previously. In other words, a bunch of impoverished black children were deprived of an education that could have helped them move forward in life in the name of radical Marxist ideology.

3. John McCain was completely vindicated of all wrongdoing by a Democrat-led investigation. The $112,000 he received from Keating was donated to the U.S. Treasury. In fact, this was McCain's motivation to work on campaign finance reform.

And that's just off the top of my head. Your friend is ill-informed and prone to moral equivalence, to say the least.

re: #47 Teacake!

Out on the front page is a post from late yesterday.

This is a beginning.

re: #70 OldLineTexan

She never takes advice.

Someday she'll pay the price.

I know.

re: #74 bosforus

Gibbs referring to Obama:
"He's not a judge."
Yeah, presidents don't have to make judgments. That would just be silly.
/

Apparently judging people, or judging their actions, or even having an opinion about anything that someone might conceivably disagree with, is above Obama's pay grade.

Sometimes I just stare out the window, and wonder if the sky and the ground are about to switch places, because that would make about as much sense as Barack Obama being nominated for president (and, it would seem, being on his way to victory).

Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope...

Actually, this was kind of cheering. But right now, I'll take anything.

On the radio, I heard some apologist from the Chicago Tribune criticizing Palin for saying Obama palled around with "terrorists, as if there was more than one."

It reminded me of Ayers' charming wife and this quote:

In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World revolutionaries conquer and destroy it. Taking charge of the podium, dressed in a high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast." Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!

Embarrassed today by this memory, but unable to expunge it from the record and unwilling to repudiate her terrorist deeds, Dorhn resorts to the lie direct. "It was a joke,"

Palin was exactly correct. TERRORISTS!

No one really thinks Obama is stupid!
He just thinks everyone else in the USA is!
This ass clown needs to go down in smoke nov 5th!
Or I'll have to take up smoking again....not cig....

Who is the main being interviewed in the video. On Hot Air's site they just mention his last name, Gibbs. Who is he, what's his full name?

One theory - the Democrat party might be having some buyers remorse.
crazy frogmarch theory: The economy is tanking. Obama (if elected) will blame Bush for a few years but eventually, with his high taxes and his free government run universal health care, with Iran going crazy, with one-party corruption going nuts, our economy will be in shambles and the democrats will be holding the bag. The progressive/socialist movement will be as good as trash. Look into the future my friends. The dems want utopia - but it doesn't exist. No matter, the democrats will kill us all (financially and spiritually) attempting to get us there. I think a few people on the left can sense reality.

re: #61 USA

I wonder how many of Obama's aids know who "helped" Obama write Dreams from My Father. Halperin should ask that question.

I read about that yesterday. Very intriguing. There is computer software that can analyze two works and tell you if they came from the same individual. It was the key to solving a murder disguised as suicide on an episode of Forensic Files.

Attn Michiganders

Just heard on the News today that Your and My Governor, the one and only Jennifer Granholm is on the short list to be an Obama Supreme court nominee.

So I am voting for Obama.

Anything to get rid of her

/

re: #90 Last Mohican

Apparently judging people, or judging their actions, or even having an opinion about anything that someone might conceivably disagree with, is above Obama's pay grade.

/It's the ultimate triumph of moral relativism, which has been gaining ground the past few decades. So someone is a terrorist. Well, he's a person too!

(Especially, he's a person who can help launch a political career.)

"Any song by Johnny Cash"

Wrong..The correct answer is I'll Get Along Somehow by Ernest Tubb

OT - at the bookstore today glancing at the magazine section. what do I see? the current cover of Newsweek has a VERY unflattering photo of Sarah Palin along with a very unflattering title.

re: #29 Nevergiveup

you bet she was

re: #96 doppelganglander

I don't pretend to know for sure who wrote it. But I would bet half of what is left in my stock portfolio that it was not Obama by himself. He is not a writer and the book is well written. Ayers is a very plausible ghost.

re: #98 Shug

Attn Michiganders

Just heard on the News today that Your and My Governor, the one and only Jennifer Granholm is on the short list to be an Obama Supreme court nominee.

So I am voting for Obama.

Anything to get rid of her

/

/So Granholm can screw up the rest of the country?

I lived in Michigan when she was up for re-election. I could not believe she was re-elected.

Thanks all. I'm still not sure if I am going to challange him or not. He has NO IDEA I'm not a lefty! LOLOL I've known him almost 30 years and I have never engaged in any political conversation with him. Most people think I'm on the left because I look a little arty and have no idea I loath left politics! LOLOL

re: #90 Last Mohican

Sometimes I just stare out the window, and wonder if the sky and the ground are about to switch places, because that would make about as much sense as Barack Obama being nominated for president (and, it would seem, being on his way to victory).

LOL - I feel exactly the same way sometimes.

I think I'll post some of your info at my myspace! He might see it there and probably faint! LOL

While John McCain was getting tortured by communists, Barack Obama was being mentored by communists, and Bill Ayers was committing domestic terror under the guidance of communism.

Choose wisely the next leader of The United States of America.

re: #108 Racer X

While John McCain was getting tortured by communists, Barack Obama was being mentored by communists, and Bill Ayers was committing domestic terror under the guidance of communism.

Choose wisely the next leader of The United States of America.

And of the FREE WORLD

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

As usual, you are much more comprehensive than I am. Kudos.

re: #47 Teacake!

A friend sent me the following email. I'd like suggestions how to respond to him. LOL

Ayers' work in education did not involve teaching math and other core curricular. In fact, Obama/Ayers refused the grant application of successful programs that taught math, etc. in favor of programs that taught political correctness and victimhood psychology that turned out to be utter failures.

Ayers' work continued to undermind the U.S. but through education instead of direct action (bombing, bank robberies, etc.).

Campbell Brown: Stop the negative campaigning

Whatever beyatch.

loppyd: Stop your constant sneering

re: #83 CapeCoddah

"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."

"This is not the Bill Ayres I knew" = "You're dead to me." /

re: #105 Teacake!

Thanks all. I'm still not sure if I am going to challange him or not. He has NO IDEA I'm not a lefty! LOLOL I've known him almost 30 years and I have never engaged in any political conversation with him. Most people think I'm on the left because I look a little arty and have no idea I loath left politics! LOLOL

This is your year to come out of the closet! You've got all the information you need right here at LGF.

re: #110 buzzsawmonkey

Racer, I distilled your comment earlier today--giving you a hat-tip, of course--thus:

John McCain: tortured by communists.
Barack Obama: tutored by communists.
Bill Ayers: terrorist communist.

I like it!

something is odd with Halperin. They have him on a local radio station about twice a week, and I usually catch him on my drive to work. like many mainstreamers, he tries to put on a show of fairness, and tries to act like he hasn't taken a side. but listening to him all during this election cycle its pretty clear he has been on the side of first Hillary, and then Obama. But the series of questions posed in this video does not match the Halperin that I have known. (pun intended)
strange.

WHAT!? No Che posters? Has to be several there...Where the hell are they?

re: #113 loppyd

Campbell Brown: Stop the negative campaigning

Whatever beyatch.

loppyd: Stop your constant sneering

"Stop the negative campaigning" = Stop telling the truth about BHO's past and look at the shiny object/glittering future he's promising.

How soon before the re-eduction camps are set up?

Flash: SNL rewriting bailout skit, “didn’t meet their standards“

A “Saturday Night Live” skit that skewered President Bush, Democrats, homebuyers and subprime lenders for their roles in the mortgage meltdown was removed from the program’s website because it “didn’t meet out standards,” a spokesman for the show said Tuesday. An edited version of the skit will be re-posted online soon, the spokesman said.

The skit, a parody of a C-SPAN news conference, ridiculed subprime borrowers, housing speculators and Herbert and Marion Sandler, the real-life couple who built Golden West Financial into a subprime lending powerhouse and sold it to Wachovia before the subprime collapse. At one point in the skit, the Herb Sandler character says he made $24 billion off the subprime boom. Graphics then appear labeling the Sandlers as “People who should be shot.”

“Upon review, we caught certain elements in the sketch that didn’t meet our standards,” a spokesman for the program said in an E-mail message Tuesday. “We took it down and made some minor changes and it will be back online soon.”

Cowards.

re: #113 loppyd

Campbell Brown: Stop the negative campaigning

Whatever beyatch.

loppyd: Stop your constant sneering

Campbell is pathetic..She openly roots for Obama....

Remember Obama's answer about Ayers in the democratic debate. Very precise. Very Clintonesque. I could smell his s&^t through the TV.

It wouldn't take too much work to dig out his relation with Ayers. But it is there. Would not surprise me if it includes BOTH babysitting the Obama kids AND ghostwriting Obama's book. This is going to be a very interesting October.

re: #117 alien_mind

something is odd with Halperin. They have him on a local radio station about twice a week, and I usually catch him on my drive to work. like many mainstreamers, he tries to put on a show of fairness, and tries to act like he hasn't taken a side. but listening to him all during this election cycle its pretty clear he has been on the side of first Hillary, and then Obama. But the series of questions posed in this video does not match the Halperin that I have known. (pun intended)
strange.

I don't know...sometimes the media abandons its biases and turns on its darling (think Howard Dean). I doubt that is happening here, but perhaps the storm of criticism recently against the media has forced a more balanced approach (on CNN, too)? We can only hope.

Campbell, who's watching your kids today?

Well, I was about to go home when a buddy called me to ask him why he was stucking in traffic the last 5 minutes. Turns out the had a crash on the Coronado bridge. Looks like I'll be around for a while longer.

re: #103 USA

I don't pretend to know for sure who wrote it. But I would bet half of what is left in my stock portfolio that it was not Obama by himself. He is not a writer and the book is well written. Ayers is a very plausible ghost.

I was really shocked that his authorship was in question. Has anyone questioned "The Audacity of Hype?" A comparison of that with "Dreams from my Father" might be instructive.

The books are actually pretty well-written, although I think they should both be in the fiction department. I was willing to concede that he could have a fine career as a writer. There truly is nothing real about that man.

Do I detect a tiny crack in the dike?

re: #120 loppyd

Flash: SNL rewriting bailout skit, “didn’t meet their standards“

Cowards.

I suspect they'll just remove the Chyron text "People who should be shot." The Sandlers are real people, however loathsome, and that's over the line.

re: #120 loppyd

Flash: SNL rewriting bailout skit, “didn’t meet their standards“

Cowards.

"We got a call from Soros and Obama - The skit needs to be infused with more Bush bashing and the parts that are critical of democrats must be washed."

Mark Levin just called LGF a great website and I think he's pointing people to this here post.

Cheers, CJ.

-WFH

Mark Levin just hat-tipped LGF on his show!

Mark Levin just gave a hat tip to LGF and I quote:
"A great website" ! How 'bout that ?

As Rush said, "it's no longer just an "association" with Ayres, it's an "alliance" with Ayres."

re: #127 maddogg

Do I detect a tiny crack in the dike?

Just have her buy some pants that fit.

re: #119 calcajun

"Stop the negative campaigning" = Stop telling the truth about BHO's past and look at the shiny object/glittering future he's promising.

How soon before the re-eduction camps are set up?

She has become increasingly detestable as the election season wears on.

I wonder her snarl will end up in the CNN lineup when her "Election Center" show comes to an end. Maybe she'll try to edge out Kiran Chetry on the morning show?

re: #130 wong fei hung

Mark Levin just called LGF a great website and I think he's pointing people to this here post.

Cheers, CJ.

-WFH

Just in time to flood the server for the debate! But welcome, guests!

re: #126 doppelganglander

Writing is a skill that takes a lot of practice. Obama has written NOTHING except two exceptionally well written books. Sorry, I ain't buying any of it.

Prepare for a lizardlanch! LGF mentioned on Mark Levin just now!

Obama and Ayers CNN thread.

WOOT!

re: #122 USA

It wouldn't take too much work to dig out his relation with Ayers. But it is there.

They have ALREADY dug out the relationship. They served together on a bord for 7 years, Obama had his political "coming out" party at Ayer's house, Obama has funnelled grant money from the Annenberg folks to a number if Ayer's projects.

I'm not sure what your comment above is in reference to. You ask "but is it there," well, threads here on LGF and articles all over the internet this week has pointed ouot that it IS THERE.

Explain why you ask?

re: #119 calcajun

How soon before the re-eduction camps are set up?

They are here now, as clandestine public education policy and running Obama's campaign.

re: #124 Shug

Campbell, who's watching your kids today?

AHHHHHHH LOL LOL LOL

re: #113 loppyd

Campbell Brown: Stop the negative campaigning

Whatever beyatch.

loppyd: Stop your constant sneering

What?
How many jackholes have attacked Sarah Palin and her family? They have scraped the bottom of the barrel by going after Governor Palin and her children. If Miss Campbell Brown really feels that way, she should punch whoever insults little Trig right in the nose.

re: #143 Joan Not of Arc

What?
How many jackholes have attacked Sarah Palin and her family? They have scraped the bottom of the barrel by going after Governor Palin and her children. If Miss Campbell Brown really feels that way, she should punch whoever insults little Trig right in the nose.

She'd have to start with herself.

re: #75 Shug

We are to believe that Barack Hussein Obama is so intelligent as to learn what is necessary from a two year presndential campaign, while a freshman senator, yet he is not smart enough to know who Bill Ayers was.

A disconnect that reminds me of their argument that Bush is an Idiot, but an Idiot who could masternind the 9/11 attacks, including wiring the two largest buildings with demolotions while nobody noticed the workman.

sorry, I don't buy the liberal logic once again

If it takes Obama literally DECADES to get to know the truth about people he spends lots of time with, he'd have to be on his fifth term before he'd have a clear understanding of the world leaders he would interact with as President.

i find it amazing Obama ,Cambell Brown, Gibbs, The View anyone at all. would say a damn thing about negative campaigning after the the most disgusting attacks on Hillary and Palin.

re: #132 leftover54

Mark Levin just gave a hat tip to LGF and I quote:
"A great website" ! How 'bout that ?

That is a direct result of the subjects Charles selects as topics (before you all go off on a tangent, unlike me ... :) AND a direct result of Charles enforcing his rules at the top.

Charles isn't too picky about who gets to stay on, but he does seem to be picky about behavior.

"We" are rather diverse, and Charles is an excellent moderator. The combination is killer.

re: #145 stuiec

If it takes Obama literally DECADES to get to know the truth about people he spends lots of time with, he'd have to be on his fifth term before he'd have a clear understanding of the world leaders he would interact with as President.

/What makes you think the Twenty-Fifth Amendment would be safe from him?

re: #143 Joan Not of Arc

What?
How many jackholes have attacked Sarah Palin and her family? They have scraped the bottom of the barrel are lower than whaleshit on the bottom of the ocean by going after Governor Palin and her children. If Miss Campbell Brown really feels that way, she should punch whoever insults little Trig right in the nose.

there - fixed that for you!

re: #140 Walter L. Newton

Yes, there is a lot out there, and I have read much of it. I am saying that IMHO there is much, much more. I suspect the Obama's and the Ayers-Dohrn's have, in all likelihood, been extremely close for years.

re: #134 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Can't be the crack in question -- that one is hardly 'tiny.'

re: #148 arethusa

I don't.

I just do not understand why this even a question. Ayers turned over the management of a $50 million grant to Obama. And people are wondering if they're more than passing acquaintances?

Get real.

re: #113 loppyd

Note to Campbell Brown - stop the negative (biased) journalism.

re: #150 USA

I suspect the Obama's and the Ayers-Dohrn's have, in all likelihood, been extremely close for years.

On Michelle's side, possibly back to 1987, too.

Oh, for a smoking gun that even the NYT would have to admit was loaded.

re: #121 HoosierHoops

Campbell is pathetic..She openly roots for Obama....

And she makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets excited. Well, that's what I heard. //

How else would she get a job at CNN.

re: #138 USA

Writing is a skill that takes a lot of practice. Obama has written NOTHING except two exceptionally well written books. Sorry, I ain't buying any of it.

I'm a writer -- believe me, I know how hard it is. The interesting part to me was how Obama was unable to deliver a manuscript and had his contract withdrawn by the publisher. His agent got him another contract, including another advance. He took of for Bali and magically produced a masterpiece. Things that make you go hmmmm...

re: #92 USA

On the radio, I heard some apologist from the Chicago Tribune criticizing Palin for saying Obama palled around with "terrorists, as if there was more than one."

It reminded me of Ayers' charming wife and this quote:

Palin was exactly correct. TERRORISTS!

They're probably more depraved than most terrorists. These people are SICK!
I kind of doubt that Al Qaeda would be gloating as much about eating in the same room; they probably can't stand the infidels they kill.

re: #154 Cap'n DOC

Note to Campbell Brown - stop the negative (biased) journalism.

As if. She can't help herself.

I wonder who is taking care of her baby (less than one year old mind you) while she is burning the midnight oil at CNN?

I love Mark Levin

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

"Any song by Johnny Cash."

I.e., he doesn't know any country songs, just a few singers' names.

It would have interesting if, after Gibbs mentioned Johnny Cash, the interviewer said, "Oh, how about Fadded Love?"

(A Willie Nelson tune)

Levin is playing the audio to a CNN expose on the relationship between O'Bama & Ayers - what PISSES ME OFF is when the interviewer stated that Ayers said he "wished he had done more" it has become "wished he had done more to stop the war ". Covering a bit ?
I'll have to dig up the exact quote... kinda takes the "sting" outta the comment donit ? Maybe that was what Ayers said it total - got the statement 'round here somewhere...if I can just find it....hhmmmmm.

BTW, haven't visited yesterdays threads yet since I posted
the comment that possibly ruining our economy was intentional...if anyone thought I was a loon for that thought
all I can say is I'm, IMHO, in pretty good company as Rush said as much on his show today ! I love to turn on Rush to see if he agrees with me LOL !
(a joke on the wingers claims that he tells US how to think)

re: #156 calcajun

And she makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets excited. Well, that's what I heard. //

How else would she get a job at CNN.

I read once that she's from Kentucky and has worked very hard to lose the accent.

re: #136 loppyd

She has become increasingly detestable as the election season wears on.

I wonder her snarl will end up in the CNN lineup when her "Election Center" show comes to an end. Maybe she'll try to edge out Kiran Chetry on the morning show?

Hopefully Kiran will return to Fox. I watch CNN, still, for Robin Meade--with the mute button on.

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Per item #7: the Keating Five scandal is yet another example of how it is DEMOCRATS who comprise most of the whores that sell out the taxpayer for campaign donations. Does Obama really want to bring up that subject and lay his party open to the parallels with the current crisis?

re: #157 doppelganglander

I'm a writer -- believe me, I know how hard it is. The interesting part to me was how Obama was unable to deliver a manuscript and had his contract withdrawn by the publisher. His agent got him another contract, including another advance. He took of for Bali and magically produced a masterpiece. Things that make you go hmmmm...

Well look at all the experience Obama had writing for the Harvard Law review..
/

I don't much like E.J. Dionne. So I'm glad when he makes a gaffe himself by claiming Palin made a gaffe.

This is becoming the issue it needs to be -- a freaking DEALBREAKER

HAMMER IT McCain--Nail it to him til he's bloody--make this son of a bitch own his past in front of everyone and then let's watch he cultists scramble.

These sons of bitches don't think this is valid point to bring up?

F Them!

These sons of bitches don't think Ayers is a distraction?

F Them!

Go McCain--draw proverbial blood - use that Palin knife - then finish the son of a bitch on national TV

re: #166 HoosierHoops

Well look at all the experience Obama had writing for the Harvard Law review..
/

Odd that he never published an article. Usually, you have to get published to be an editor. Funny, that.

We need to stop framing this in terms of the past. Bill Ayres WAS not a terrorist. Bill Ayres IS a terrorist. He simply decided it was best to defeat America from within the confines of its own institutions (legal, educational, political). Obama is simply and clearly a manifestation of this strategy.

If you don't believe me, click this link and read the opening statement from "Prairie Fire" - the Weather Underground's manifesto.

And don't forget, they are proud to be Communists. It isn't McCarthyism if the people you are accusing of being Communist are, you know, proud to be Communists:

Prarie Wind Opening Statement

re: #169 calcajun

Odd that he never published an article. Usually, you have to get published to be an editor. Funny, that.

Barry's been voting Present his whole life.

I have a tingling running up my leg about tonight's debate. I think it's going to be the beginning of the end of Barack Hussein Obama, specifically because of the blatant and outright lies by Obama and his stooges about the relationship with Ayers.

I stand corrected. She is from Ferriday, Louisiana.

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Excellent synopsis! (might also add that all that money which was doled out through the "Annenberg Challenge" -- 300 million? -- accomplished nothing -- the results were negligible and the whole project was deemed as a failure...just another wasteful squandering of money.)

(Kenneth also had posted a timeline with respect to Ayers and Obama...here...)

re: #164 calcajun

She does have some nice shirts she wears.

re: #164 calcajun

Hopefully Kiran will return to Fox. I watch CNN, still, for Robin Meade--with the mute button on.

LOL

I think Kiran burned a few bridges on her way out....

re: #173 loppyd

I stand corrected. She is from Ferriday, Louisiana.

What did Doctor Lector say to Clarice Starling about being no more than 1 generation away from poor white trash.

Do you hear the lambs screaming, Campbell?

Some good news: Brit Hume reports that the early voting/registration scam in Ohio ended yesterday, with far fewer votes cast than expected. Fewer than 5K vs an expected 25K. Probably three-quarters of them are fraudulent, but that's not as bad as it might have been.

re: #149 West Coast Freedom

Thank you.

re: #144 loppyd

"Say, Miss Brown, you appeared to have punched yourself in the nose. Can I ask why?"

re: #167 arethusa

I don't much like E.J. Dionne. So I'm glad when he makes a gaffe himself by claiming Palin made a gaffe.

LOL at the pictorial aids!

Have to heat up Sunday's sauce. I love it when dinner is so easy!

BBL

re: #168 hbwriter

This is becoming the issue it needs to be -- a freaking DEALBREAKER

Seriously. And there oughtta be at least one 60-second snippet of a Reverend Wright speech airing on every station in America, at least once an hour. I cannot believe that things have actually gotten to this point without Obama being summarily spit upon by about 95% of the people in this country.

The McCain TV ads I've seen are all about "Obama's gonna raise your taxes. Oh yes he is! He's a big tax-raiser, he is." A weak, tired, and ineffective message, IMHO.

re: #160 Shug

I love Mark Levin

Agreed. He's better than Hannity or Rush, IMHO. And I love it when he skewers that detestable scumbag Michael Weiner, I mean Savage, and John Leibowitz, I mean Stewart.

re: #160 Shug

I love Mark Levin

Anyone catch his program last Friday where he grabbed some of the Obama-jugend and had them reprogrammed? Listen around 37:30 mark of the program. Too funny.

re: #177 loppyd

LOL

I think Kiran burned a few bridges on her way out....

That's what I understand also.

re: #162 leftover54

Levin is playing the audio to a CNN expose on the relationship between O'Bama & Ayers - what PISSES ME OFF is when the interviewer stated that Ayers said he "wished he had done more" it has become "wished he had done more to stop the war ". Covering a bit ?
I'll have to dig up the exact quote... kinda takes the "sting" outta the comment donit ? Maybe that was what Ayers said it total - got the statement 'round here somewhere...if I can just find it....hhmmmmm.

BTW, haven't visited yesterdays threads yet since I posted
the comment that possibly ruining our economy was intentional...if anyone thought I was a loon for that thought
all I can say is I'm, IMHO, in pretty good company as Rush said as much on his show today ! I love to turn on Rush to see if he agrees with me LOL !
(a joke on the wingers claims that he tells US how to think)

I fully agree that this hole thing was done on purpose, I have been listening to what Soros etel has been saying and following the markets.

re: #178 Shug

What did Doctor Lector say to Clarice Starling about being no more than 1 generation away from poor white trash.

Do you hear the lambs screaming, Campbell?

Miss Brown is from a very wealthy family:

Campbell Brown belonged to a very rich family background as her father was a former Democratic State Senator, Secretary of State and Insurance Commissioner of Louisiana named James H. Jim Brown Jr. Her father had been married twice and has three daughters. His first marriage was with Dale Campbell Brown who was an artist and later on he married to Mrs. William R. Fairbanks. Her father is a Presbyterian but Brown had adopted Catholic religion.

The simple fact is, obama knew about Ayers' terrorist activities and continued to associate with him both professionally and personally and despite his tepid condemnations, he most likely he thinks Ayers is radically cool.
Because Obama has so little experience, his campaign has tried to focus on his character. But it's backfiring because he doesn't have much of that either.

re: #172 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I have a tingling running up my leg about tonight's debate. I think it's going to be the beginning of the end of Barack Hussein Obama, specifically because of the blatant and outright lies by Obama and his stooges about the relationship with Ayers.

I loved that band! The Ozard Mountain daredevils were awesome!
Great nic!

re: #177 loppyd

LOL

I think Kiran burned a few bridges on her way out....

I don't blame her. When E.D. left, Kiran should have gotten that chair. Gretchen is a joke and the reason I no longer watch Fox & Friends.

re: #173 loppyd

I stand corrected. She is from Ferriday, Louisiana.

Well, not everyone from my home state can be as smart as me. Besides, the right-thinking people are all from the southeastern part of Louisiana.

re: #186 gregg

Anyone catch his program last Friday where he grabbed some of the Obama-jugend and had them reprogrammed? Listen around 37:30 mark of the program. Too funny.

Oops, wrong link. Sorry about that.

re: #192 doppelganglander

I don't blame her. When E.D. left, Kiran should have gotten that chair. Gretchen is a joke and the reason I no longer watch Fox & Friends.

Agreed. And I can only take F&F so in doses these days as well.

Gretchen's stylist should be fired immediately.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it:
ZerObama and Ayers WASTED $100 MILLION of other peoples money on social-engineering-pseudo-educational programs.
The big-O's only executive experience was a total FAILURE!

NObama!

really gone now....

see you all pre-debate

re: #196 loppyd

Agreed. And I can only take F&F so in doses these days as well.

Gretchen's stylist should be fired immediately.

Bring back Laurie Dhue!

re: #191 HoosierHoops

I loved that band! The Ozard Mountain daredevils were awesome!
Great nic!

Thanks! And I agree about OMD!

re: #191 HoosierHoops

When Electricity Came to Arkansas!

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

re: #201 West Coast Freedom

When Electricity Came to Arkansas!

Is that the right band? I'm too frickn' old these days

/bangs head

So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ''I don't want to discount the possibility,'' he said

re: #47 Teacake!

Also, Ayers is just one of many far left individuals that Obama had and has around him. Some say it shows bad judgment. In fact, it shows who Obama really is.
Wright, Flaeger, Meeks, Moss on the religious side. Then there are his policy advisers like Samantha Powers who wants the U.S. to invade Israel and Robert Malley who consistently condemns Israel and exonerates the Palestinians. Obama is a radical. His bill if passed in 2007 would have mandated that all troops be out of Iraq in March 31, 2008. He would have handed victory to the enemy. He is an old-style 60's radical. Just like Ayers.

re: #174 buzzsawmonkey

He, and his campaign, are probably hoping that threatening to do so is a sufficient shot across the bow to get McCain to shut up--or, that they will be able to so muddy the waters ("S&L Crisis! Corruption! See? The Republicans were doing it to you then, and are doing it to you NOW!") that they can tie the current crisis more securely to McCain.

If McCain stays cool and on-message, this will fail--but that's what the game is.

I have always been distinctly irritated at McCain about the Keating Five business. He shouldn't have been in that room.

Even the investigator said he ought to have been dropped from the investigation, and he was exonerated, but (since he was the token Republican in that room, grilling the investigator) it still sticks in a lot of craws.

Am I going off the deep end?

I have an hour's drive into work, so I listen to the radio, and do quite a bit of thinking.

Something about this whole economic avalanche keeps circling my brain.

2-3 years ago, the alarm was being sound because some folks were concerned about the financial well-being of Fannie, and Freddie. It is on tape.

It has also become known that the sub-prime was being sold on the market end for billions at a swath.

What got me thinking more about this, was this morning getting ready for work. Watching TV, between my 4 cable news channels I flip, CNN & Headline News were running their tickers at the bottom with the word "depression" in one of their sentences relating to the current situation.

I plan on researching more about Soros, and his ability to affect the currency market, which IIRC, is how he made his fortune, but could anyone have the acuity, and foresight to see this timing the way it did?

Obviously some folks were seeing it a couple of years ago, but it was not on the public radar.

Please, tell me I am chasing a little elephant.

re: #168 hbwriter

This is becoming the issue it needs to be -- a freaking DEALBREAKER

HAMMER IT McCain--Nail it to him til he's bloody--make this son of a bitch own his past in front of everyone and then let's watch he cultists scramble.

These sons of bitches don't think this is valid point to bring up?

F Them!

These sons of bitches don't think Ayers is a distraction?

F Them!

Go McCain--draw proverbial blood - use that Palin knife - then finish the son of a bitch on national TV

No really! Tell us how you really feel!
LOL
Have a beer and collect yourself my friend!
But save some for during the debate!

re: #207 Dianna

OT -- read your entry post on the prior thread: return from the doc's.

Take good care of yourself.
Get better real soon.

re: #174 buzzsawmonkey

He, and his campaign, are probably hoping that threatening to do so is a sufficient shot across the bow to get McCain to shut up--or, that they will be able to so muddy the waters ("S&L Crisis! Corruption! See? The Republicans were doing it to you then, and are doing it to you NOW!") that they can tie the current crisis more securely to McCain.

If McCain stays cool and on-message, this will fail--but that's what the game is.

It's a bush-league amateur move. McCain has no fear of the Keating connection because he made full penance for it. In fact, bringing it up opens lots of cans of worms for the Democrats, ones that will inevitably catch Obama up in their slimy wriggling.

re: #184 Last Mohican

Taxes bite. I can't afford to have my taxes raised, so it isn't an ineffective message to me.

Obama promises lots of stuff, and it has to be paid for somehow. Which means, bluntly, that my taxes go up. It's an excellent message.

re: #157 doppelganglander

I'm a writer -- believe me, I know how hard it is. The interesting part to me was how Obama was unable to deliver a manuscript and had his contract withdrawn by the publisher. His agent got him another contract, including another advance. He took of for Bali and magically produced a masterpiece. Things that make you go hmmmm...

_________________________
Ghostwriter I'd bet. I do remember reading about a software package that could analyze writing styles but its name escapes me. It claimed also to be a useful tool in detecting plagiarism.

obama talked about ketting 5 in a speech were he was introduced by sen john glenn who was one of the 4 democrats in ketting 5 HIPOCRITICAL BASTARDS.

re: #86 HugoChavez

Like Captain Nemo's cigar?

re: #162 leftover54

The Ayers comment appeared on -- get this -- September 11, 2001. Yeah, and it was published in the New York Times. The NYSlimes did an interview with Ayers. And Ayers stated: "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."
That's what Ayers said to a reporter (in an interview prior to) Sept. 11, 2001, and then published on 9/11 2001.

re: #133 West Coast Freedom

Ayers and his crowd groomed the 0bama and shot him forth like a rocket, IMHO.

I don't think 0bama is his own man, & I don't think 0bama even knows that he is not his own man.

re: #208 formercorpsman

Am I going off the deep end?

I have an hour's drive into work, so I listen to the radio, and do quite a bit of thinking.

Something about this whole economic avalanche keeps circling my brain.

2-3 years ago, the alarm was being sound because some folks were concerned about the financial well-being of Fannie, and Freddie. It is on tape.

It has also become known that the sub-prime was being sold on the market end for billions at a swath.

What got me thinking more about this, was this morning getting ready for work. Watching TV, between my 4 cable news channels I flip, CNN & Headline News were running their tickers at the bottom with the word "depression" in one of their sentences relating to the current situation.

I plan on researching more about Soros, and his ability to affect the currency market, which IIRC, is how he made his fortune, but could anyone have the acuity, and foresight to see this timing the way it did?

Obviously some folks were seeing it a couple of years ago, but it was not on the public radar.

Please, tell me I am chasing a little elephant.

No I don't think you are and while your at it what about the timing and the rise of the oil market, no one can tell me that this was a direct on the US economy.

I love Thomas Sowell. Men with brains are so damned attractive!
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

re: #219 BBEV

pimf/ direct attack

re: #147 jwb7605

"We" are rather diverse, and Charles is an excellent moderator.

I myself am the resident primitive stinker, for instance.

re: #189 loppyd

She also dated Saudi spokesman and Islamist apologist Adel Al-Jubeir. Reportedly, she even jaunted to Saudi Arabia with him.

re: #216 buzzsawmonkey

I think it would be a stretch as well, to think somehow this could be planned. Actually, the reason why I put the question as such.

When I saw the words depression in the ticker, that really caught my eye.

If they start with that meme, could someone use that as a pretext for 2009 New Deal?

Could this be cover for ushering the next wave of government control over a private sector?

re: #217 J.S.

The Ayers comment appeared on -- get this -- September 11, 2001. Yeah, and it was published in the New York Times. The NYSlimes did an interview with Ayers. And Ayers stated: "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."
That's what Ayers said to a reporter (in an interview prior to) Sept. 11, 2001, and then published on 9/11 2001.

Read this today in an article published in 2001:

The extraordinary mau-mauing that convinced the New York Times to print not just one but two obsequious profiles of Bill Ayers was only part of the publisher’s plan for promoting Fugitive Days. Had the events of September 11 not taken place, Ayers would have embarked on a twenty-city book tour.

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

#208 formercorpsman:

I think you're onto something. Hell, I think the GOP needs to treat this issue the same way the Dems treat everything else - give it a name like "Big Fanny" and just demonize the hell out of every single person connected to it:

"Nancy Pelosi is in Big Fanny's back pocket"

"Barack Obama took massive campaign contributions from Big Fanny"

"Barney Frank loves him some Big Fanny"

you know, something like that...

I don't watch Fox and Friends because I so dislike Gretchen.

Did E. D. leave or was she forced to go?

re: #36 jamie

That interview underscores the whole problem with the Ayres argument: it takes too long to get to the point to resonate with the average voter. Patrick Ruffini at TheNextRight has been arguing that the ACORN connection is a stronger point to make, as well as going back to the successful tack of attacking him as a celebrity. It's worth considering.

I think that both the "guilt by association" and what ACORN is all about are too arcane for a lot of people to assimilate. What Mac needs to hammer home is how Bill and Bam mismanaged the millions of dollars of the Annenberg Grant and matching funds into the pockets of their political associates without producing a single measurable result.

Why wouldn't the natural counter to the "Keating 5", be the mere mention that 4 of the 5 involved were Dems?

Just a wierd thought on my end.....

I would love to see a reporter ask Obama that question. Put him on the spot like that until HE answers it.

It was a question that required nothing more than a "yes or no" answer.

Wow- he didn't just ask about it- he was focused on it.

I like how he buttered him up first too with the music question- lol.

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

The journalist is asking the wrong questions. It is not about "deploring" Ayers' past actions--it is about how much Ayers' past ideology informs his current actions, and how closely Obama shares that ideology. It is not about "association," but about working together.

This is what the Obamabots are missing in this whole argument - it's not even so much that Obama associates with Ayers; rather, Ayers considers Obama the political heir of his own anti-American views. As my better half put it, if I'm hosting a meeting in my house for someone who's running for office, I'm going to make sure they share my political outlook. And, Ayers' political outlook is quite obvious, and is one he's never shown any remorse about maintaining.

re: #225 buzzsawmonkey

Ok, you brought me where I needed to be.

Another thing that caught me, was that guy Jim Cramer going ape shit about selling off all of your stock.

This would surely send the market crashing further, giving reason for more government control in this arena.

Hey, if Company A was becoming a risk, why can't company B?

For what I am thinking, I don't like where it is taking me.

Open the door to that kind of control, this now grows appendages from within itself.

The government now owns a majority shareholder's position in some company. They get voting rights, implement policy, can become defacto board members.

Perhaps I need to go home, I am sounding like a lunatic.

Campbell Brown has been involved with a Saudi...in a romantic sense

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

re: #218 Ojoe

Ayers and his crowd groomed the 0bama and shot him forth like a rocket, IMHO.

I don't think 0bama is his own man, & I don't think 0bama even knows that he is not his own man.

I think you are right. Obama spent his twenties and thirties as a cypher -- he never got caught giving an opinion on anything from his Columbia days until he ran for office.

What is odd about that is he wanted to enter politics. He ought to have been making a name for himself by his words -- get noticed by the big boys... but he didn't make a peep. What kind of up-and-comer keeps his mouth shut like that? One with a powerful patron, that's who. A patron like Thomas Ayers. Obama knew every door would open for him, and was told to keep his mouth shut -- the machine would do the work for him.

re: #222 Ojoe

I myself am the resident primitive stinker, for instance.

From clicking your icon:

History. Engineering. Architecture. Family. Scouting.Practical result-oriented religion.

I'm not sure what a "primitive stinker" is, but you sound OK to me, since I've got most of the same interests.
Except I'm not good at architecture.

re: #225 buzzsawmonkey

Another reason Buzz, is the way the rest of the world's markets are being affected.

re: #179 doppelganglander

Some good news: Brit Hume reports that the early voting/registration scam in Ohio ended yesterday, with far fewer votes cast than expected. Fewer than 5K vs an expected 25K. Probably three-quarters of them are fraudulent, but that's not as bad as it might have been.

At least there is time for them to be verified. Hopefully there are some honest people in the Ohio county election board offices.

Rush said today though that the AP might be deliberately reporting a low figure to give us the sense that, because it's not so many, the election is not being stolen.

It was a rhetorical question and it seemed kind of silly to ask the same thing over and over. Why not ask, "What can you tell Americans, who find this association more than a little troubling, that will reassure them that Obama WON'T have such supporters in his cabinet."? Or, "Biden has backed off his statement that paying more taxes is patriotic and now says taking money from corporations and giving it to those who have less is 'fairness'; but this is economic socialism. Does Obama share Biden's socialistic view for America's future?" Or how about, "Ayers continues to publicly denounce capitalism and publicly support Obama-with whom he shares a close relationship-does Obama agree with Ayers that capitalism is inherently evil?

re: #236 stevieray

I think you are right. Obama spent his twenties and thirties as a cypher -- he never got caught giving an opinion on anything from his Columbia days until he ran for office.

What is odd about that is he wanted to enter politics. He ought to have been making a name for himself by his words -- get noticed by the big boys... but he didn't make a peep. What kind of up-and-comer keeps his mouth shut like that? One with a powerful patron, that's who. A patron like Thomas Ayers. Obama knew every door would open for him, and was told to keep his mouth shut -- the machine would do the work for him.

My wife asked me how Obambi could be president, what with his 'associates.' She said doesn't the president have to have a security clearance? Told her that if Obambi became president that his access to classified material would, most likely be very limited.

re: #202 willowone

Thank you - so, CNN DELIBERATELY mis quoted Ayers ! The reporter threw in his own twist on what Ayers was quoted as saying to Dinitia Smith of The N.Y.Times re: article published 09/11/08. This is FREAKING OUTRAGEOUS ! Ayers said (from the report):

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.''

CNN's version:
''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough to end the war .''

Big FREAKING DIFFERENCE ! I know LGF is all about exposing this stuff so I shouldn't be surprised but, like the difference between hearing of a robbery and actually witnessing a robbery, I'm that much more outraged right now...I heard it with my own ears. I need to find out who did that report for CNN - Levin played it, I don't believe he said who the reporter was. I'm sure he got a "high 5" for it rather then a stern warning to knock off the playing fast and loose with the facts. Shameless.

re: #230 Osama Bin Porkchop

Why wouldn't the natural counter to the "Keating 5", be the mere mention that 4 of the 5 involved were Dems?

Just a wierd thought on my end.....

His "defense" has always been along these lines:
From WikiPedia (until it gets edited):

Keating and DeConcini were asking McCain to travel to San Francisco to meet with regulators regarding Lincoln Savings; McCain refused.[11][7] DeConcini told Keating that McCain was nervous about interfering.[7] Keating called McCain a "wimp" behind his back, and on March 24, Keating and McCain had a heated, contentious meeting.[11]
.........
The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[48][47] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf.[7] The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."[51] On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[7]

re: #226 Nightlight

That's an excellent article in The Weekly Standard...(O, another article, which everyone here may have already read -- but maybe needs to be posted again, is the article "Barack Obama's Lost Years" by Kurtz. In this article, Kurtz notes that the unrepetent domestic terrorist, Ayers, also wanted to see the closing of prisons...Kurtz writes: "Ayers also makes a point of comparing America's prison system to the mass-detention of a generation of young blacks under South African Apartheid." And on this, of course, Obama agrees whole-heartedly -- writing a glowing review of Ayer's book...

I just read a brief piece by one of Bill Ayers victims. The punditry and MSM folks are endlessly minimizing Ayers acts. Describing him as a “radical” (MSM) or “Gentleman” (Stephanopoulos) really understates the facts of the matter. If Ayers victims trauma has any bearing anyway.

If there is no credible connection to Obama-Why diminish the acts of Ayers? Okay-So if we have tacit admission by the MSM there is in fact a credible if tenuous connection-So why then diminish the acts of an admitted domestic terrorist? Having it both ways guys? (MSM)

We can all freely admit our sentiments about Ayers-as a scurrilous accomplished bomber /domestic terrorist, or as some kind of left wing anti hero, fighting the good fight against the man with bombs in DC and the source of those memorable quotes like “Kill your mother, that’s where it really at”.

re: #108 Racer X

While John McCain was getting tortured by communists, Barack Obama was being mentored by communists, and Bill Ayers was committing domestic terror under the guidance of communism.

Choose wisely the next leader of The United States of America.

Warned you I did, listen, you did not.

Yikes! I never in a million years thought I'd be eagerly reading conservative blogs. I'm not an official PUMA but I am one of those that has seen the mask fall off of the "progressive" face and what I see is disgusting. I'm one of the many disillusioned that has fallen into depression and completely confused about what I thought I knew...good guys/bad guys. And like many of us "racist" Obama doubters, I can no longer talk to my friends. The dishonesty and hatred that comes out of their mouths (and those fricken' email chains!) is damaging our relationships. One friend won't even speak to me anymore. I'm still wandering the desert but I feel better over here than over there for the moment. I despise what Obama and his mob represent and the way that they have behaved. I am ashamed of my former party. I can't imagine that anything good could come out of his possible presidency. But then I can't believe he's gotten this far....
Thanks for letting me join in.

I guess in the face of actual journalism, the spin stops huh? Great. Too late. Well, MSM, you wanted him, your gonna get him. Fuck you.

That is uh, ah, er, not the um, Mark Halperin I-I-I once knew!

re: #248 scoutt

WELCOME to LGF! I think it's great you've found us.

I've lost friends in the past too over politics and over my position on radical islam, so I can understand to an extent how you feel. I think LGF will help you feel not so isolated, so I hope you continue to join in the conversations.

You are not alone!

Let's hope Halperin isn't soon to be "sleeping with da fishes" :P

re: #248 scoutt

Yikes! I never in a million years thought I'd be eagerly reading conservative blogs. I'm not an official PUMA but I am one of those that has seen the mask fall off of the "progressive" face and what I see is disgusting. I'm one of the many disillusioned that has fallen into depression and completely confused about what I thought I knew...good guys/bad guys. And like many of us "racist" Obama doubters, I can no longer talk to my friends. The dishonesty and hatred that comes out of their mouths (and those fricken' email chains!) is damaging our relationships. One friend won't even speak to me anymore. I'm still wandering the desert but I feel better over here than over there for the moment. I despise what Obama and his mob represent and the way that they have behaved. I am ashamed of my former party. I can't imagine that anything good could come out of his possible presidency. But then I can't believe he's gotten this far....
Thanks for letting me join in.

There is a reason there was the old saying "ignorance is bliss." Not very blissful out here when you can see what is going on.

The Ayers connection is too easy for Obama and his supporters to bury.
I think the connection of Obama and Trinity United Church is more of a slam dunk. And I don't mean Rev. Wright. The doctrine the church was founded on would scare a lot of Americans. Once more Americans learn about Black Liberation Theology Obama's support would dry up. Who would support a man who sat in a church that taught him to reject a god that loves white people?

Taken from A Black Theology of Liberation

"There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God's love."

And here is Wright defending the absurd teachings:

Obama has a history of shady connections.

re: #248 scoutt

welcome! feels good to escape from the dark side doesnt it?
over on this side we always wonder how people can be so blind and not notice the hatred and hypocrisy of the left.

re: #242 Perplexed

My wife asked me how Obambi could be president, what with his 'associates.' She said doesn't the president have to have a security clearance? Told her that if Obambi became president that his access to classified material would, most likely be very limited.

Nope. Not true. The day Obama takes office, he'll get full access to every scrap of classified information we have.

#248 scoutt
Welcome to the motley crew.

It's funny what wakes us up, isn't it? I kept running into progressive/leftists from civil rights to the women's movement to environmental orgs and every time they would move in and take over and destroy a good thing. I became so disillusioned that I turned my back on politics and buried my head under the covers. But 9/11 brought me back out into the light of day and I found that the 'times they are a'changin' and there were many of us out here.

wow -- we might have to get the flying pig out of the hangar. The MSM is actually starting to ask questions? First CNN does a connection piece (I linked to it in an earlier thread), and now TIME? What in the world is happening? Is it possible that even these lefties realize how friggin left of THEM BHO is?

hmmmm....let's see how the debate goes. I heard today that BHO is outspending McCain 3-1 in swing states. Are they thinking that the knockout punch is coming?

/popping the popcorn and waiting for 9 pm

re: #248 scoutt

Hi, scoutt,

Deep breath. This is the first thread of the rest of your life. I've lost friends, too, and lost a wonderful New Year's Eve party, but I can sleep better.

re: #242 Perplexed

My wife asked me how Obambi could be president, what with his 'associates.' She said doesn't the president have to have a security clearance? Told her that if Obambi became president that his access to classified material would, most likely be very limited.

Absolutly not true. The FBI vets many in the administrations for security clearances and can theoritically deny clearances to underlings. President gets full access to everything. Think about it -- how could they not? They've got their finger on the button.

Even candidates (and senators of course) are cleared to a certain level. So for sure BHO already knows some of our secrets.

The more I think about a Ayers, the more it gets under my skin. Initially, it was just a question of Obama's judgment and part of the "Who sent Obama question?," but it is a national embarrassment.

We have a terrorist, by his own admission is "Free as a Bird, and Guilty as Hell," (Horowitz, Ref.) openly embraced by, mentoring, and advising the leading candidate for the Presidency. The same candidate who is promising in transparent little fits of "manliness" to violate the sovereignty of our allies in pursuit of other terrorists. We have a President who is pursuing virtually every other terrorists by whatever means necessary (PBUH). But, because this clown's daddy is a billionaire, he walks.

If Ayers had faded away in some trust funded haze of marijuana smoke, maybe we could have forgotten him. But now he is in the game and I don't know why Bush is tolerating his presence. There should be other investigative threads not tainted by the last prosecution.

At a minimum, we have the hammer for another couple of months, lets try to take care of this terrorist at home. Its a wonder the Yemenis and Pakistanis don't bring up this guys name every time we press them for results.

re: #47 Teacake!

Send that person a link to the picture of Ayers standing on the flag and point out that Ayers has never disavowed his anti-American actions or attitudes. Point out that he was an avowed agent of a nation with which we were, at the time, in a shooting war. He's an unindicted traitor, and his bitch wife is worse.

#248
....don't feel so badly....I'm a former Dem who is sooooo sick of my liberal friends!
I don't even care if I talk to them anymore....I've changed so much and I can't stand that they are so stupid to fall for this man, this 'tool'...Obama!
His rise has definitely been orchestrated by someone else....and all roads keep leading back to Bill/Tom Ayers.
They met him, saw something in him and the idea was born.
If they couldn't bring down the country the old fashioned way (by domestic terrorism), they would groom him to infiltrate the government and make changes through politics.
And it sickening how half of the American people don't see through Obama.
As Kansas says "ignorance is bliss".....I even said that myself tonight to my husband.
People just don't want to hear it. Obama could kill somebody and people would still vote for him.
My husband is from Germany...we've had several conversations over the years and my question has always been...."how could smart people be so stupid as to follow someone who promised everything but whose motives/beliefs were so crystal clear? (Hitler)...
Well, my answer has been given to me by this current phenomenon of Barack Obama.....just goes to show, that history indeed does repeat itself.
For those people who said, years ago, in 1939....."oh, that could NEVER happen. Hitler would never do that!"
Well, we all know what happened when disallusioned people followed someone who offered them everything.