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Presidential Debate Thread 4, with Live Video

Politics | Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:16:48 pm PDT

Yet another debate thread...

[Video now removed...]

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1 Cognito  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:17:58pm

I wonder if Obama orders "burrrrrrrritos" at Mexican restaurants.

2 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:18:21pm

We don't have democracy in Afghanistan? Wasn't Karzai elected?

3 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:18:38pm

hey where is everybody?

4 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:18:44pm

4th quarter score

McCain 7
Obama 3

Not a whole lot of offense

5 Oriculum  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:18:46pm

I'm just glad that McCain won't say PAAHKEESTAAHN.

6 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:18:46pm

BHO is a lying motherfucker.

HE CALLED FOR THE INVASION OF PAKISTAN.

7 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:19:10pm

re: #1 Cognito

I wonder if Obama orders "burrrrrrrritos" at Mexican restaurants.

Arugula burritos? No such thing.

8 jetprop  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:19:47pm

BO rolled over Brokaw and TB let him..blech

9 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:19:54pm

Good, Obama on Afghanistan is a surge, like he opposed in Iraq.

I want a burrrito, Cognito, if you're going for one.

10 unclassifiable  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:20:18pm

re: #2 arethusa

We don't have democracy in Afghanistan? Wasn't Karzai elected?

Who says Barry supports a republican democracy? It's just a transition to the perfect utopian communist society.

11 reno911  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:20:24pm

Could not stand-it anymore. Turned on Henry Rollings interviewing Gene Simmons.

I think I am going to write-in Gene Simmons for POTUS. Both these cats suck.

12 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:20:25pm

Mac just nuked Obama.

Getting good!

O is a rookie.

13 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:20:31pm

re: #6 MandyManners

he said that if they don't go after Obama we should invade Pahhhhhkiiistaaan. That is different than saying we need to invade Pakistan.

somehow.

14 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:20:42pm
15 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:20:43pm

I had tacos for lunch. The were from tak-ee-stahn.

16 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:01pm

10 minutes to go...

17 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:03pm

I love that KGB line of McCain's.

18 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:28pm

uh oh - new comments buttons went the way of a libs brain.

19 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:42pm

re: #14 buzzsawmonkey

My, but Obama sounds like a prig.

You can put lipstick on a prig, but it's still a prig.

20 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:43pm

re: #1 Cognito

I wonder if Obama orders "burrrrrrrritos" at Mexican restaurants.

No, he orders them at "Mehican" restaurants.

21 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:48pm

Pockeestahn.

Tahleebahn.

/Obonics

22 tigerwoman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:51pm

If you don't know what in the hell you are talking about agree with McCain.

23 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:52pm

Er uh uh uh er uh- I agree with McCain.

24 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:55pm
25 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:57pm

re: #13 ArmyWife

he said that if they don't go after Obama we should invade Pahhhhhkiiistaaan. That is different than saying we need to invade Pakistan.

somehow.

Paging Dr. Freud. Paging Dr. Freud.

*snicker*

26 marge45b  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:21:58pm

Obama's bailistic on PA-KEE-STAIN! Go MCCain!

27 eon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:15pm

Make Russia understand that there are penalties for their aggressive behavior.

/Short of Third Herd and Fourth Horde doing a thunder run into Red Square, I'm not sure what it would take for Putin to get the message

eon

28 Oldasdirt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:22pm

McCain needed to talk about Obama's part in the failed banks and the FM/FM failure more.Hope it comes back around.

29 Lakedog66  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:24pm

John, the Obama says it is pronounced....pock e stan. Please try to get it right

30 tigerwoman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:27pm

More financial assistance. Is there anyone we will not assist financially?

31 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:30pm

Tom Brokass is the worse moderator ever ..........

32 Oriculum  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:30pm

I hear a little um-bama coming on...

33 jetprop  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:40pm

Lahhtvia..

34 Capitalistincharge  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:42pm

Obama is tanking bad on Foreign Policy.......

35 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:50pm

Senator Obama, does Russia have UNSC veto power?

snicker

36 GrepSedAwk  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:51pm

Obama just proposed a unilateral strike on Phakeestan if we had Osama in our sites. WAR MONGER! How is that going to restore our position in the world and "take our country back"?

37 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:22:56pm

Somebody has to steer this debate back to ACORN.

38 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:05pm

"I put out a statement"... oooh, wow, Barry! Why on earth didn't the Russians immediately obey you?! The mind boggles.

39 ElectraGlideVI  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:05pm

re: #4 Shug

/I dunno....I think Obama is VERY offensive.

40 quiescent  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:08pm

Ho-ley Crap!

How do you people keep up with the thread, the debate (and my son is trying to do his nightly out loud reading next to me, too... as a 7 yr old, he is at least as articulate as Uh-uh-uhbama)

41 rw in san diego  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:25pm

Obama's rambling.

42 Palandine  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:28pm

Has Obama ever seen a problem that he didn't want to throw money at?

We're BROKE, Senator. No more aid, or tied solely to wheher a country likes us.

43 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:38pm
44 tigerwoman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:44pm

It has not cost us dearly not to find bin Laden. We have not had one attack since 9/11 you jerk.

45 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:48pm

I put out a statement

Another fuc__ng statement !

Is that all this turd is good for? Statements.

46 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:51pm

re: #26 marge45b

Obama's bailistic on PA-KEE-STAIN! Go MCCain!

The Obamas aren't really big on pronouncing things correctly.

47 MrSnuggles  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:58pm

Now Obama is just droaning on about nothing.

48 Athos  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:23:59pm

Obama is one of the pinheads who happens to think that if UBL is captured or confirmed dead - that the war would be over. How naive.

49 unclassifiable  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:02pm

Barry is losing his place in his own thoughts.

He probably is thinking that this president job might be hard.

50 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:10pm

Barry - you're an idiot.

1. Catching Osama would not accomplish much
2. Osama is DEAD!

51 wdarty  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:20pm

BHO: Let's buy some European respect and admiration with my tax money.

52 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:20pm

Obama continues with his fantasy that he saw all this coming and warned against it. Saying "I told you so" is not a foreign policy.

53 jaxgtr  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:36pm

So Russian petro dollars are huge, but lets not drill at home to counter them.

54 devil in baggy pants  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:39pm

Way to parse the maybe, John!

55 Oriculum  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:40pm

re: #40 quiescent

Ho-ley Crap!

How do you people keep up with the thread, the debate (and my son is trying to do his nightly out loud reading next to me, too... as a 7 yr old, he is at least as articulate as Uh-uh-uhbama)

laptop. don't really have to LOOK at the tv to figure out who is talking.

56 Lakedog66  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:47pm

Whoops, here goes the financial part of us paying for all of everyone else.

57 Bobibutu  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:50pm

re: #6 MandyManners

BHO is a lying motherfucker.

HE CALLED FOR THE INVASION OF PAKISTAN.

I would have said BHO is a motherfucking liar.

But I spent time in the Navy .... profanity always comes before the description.

/

58 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:51pm

YES OR NO asshole

59 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:52pm
60 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:56pm

I've had a knock-down, drag-out fight with The Kid over this debate. He was bound-and-determined to watch it. Not only "NO" but "HELL NO" would I agree.

Mom rules. The Kid drools (as he will sometime in the night).

61 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:24:57pm

Obama just copied McCain on Russia, but still can't answer a yes or no question with a "yes" or a "no".

62 eon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:25:34pm

Yes or no- is Russia an Evil Empire?

Finally, a "Have You Stopped Beating Your Wife" question.

And the answer, Tom, is

Not Yet, But Putin Dreams Of It Every Night.

eon

63 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:25:38pm

re: #25 MandyManners

LOL...oopsie!

64 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:25:40pm

0 = All blow, no show.

65 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:25:43pm

McCain's answer was better on if Russia was an evil empire.

66 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:25:52pm

"Would you send troops to support Israel or wait on the UN"

BEAUTIFUL!

67 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:25:57pm

re: #50 Racer X

Barry - you're an idiot.

1. Catching Osama would not accomplish much
2. Osama is DEAD!

I just made a similar remark to a friend. What has Osama accomplished since 9/11? Why does Obama act as though the war on terror would be over if we came back with his scalp?

68 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:03pm

AWESOME question on Israel!

69 nyclady  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:09pm

i am gonna cry. honestly that handshake.

70 Dianna  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:12pm

#1 Cognito

You really don't like Obama, do you?

71 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:19pm

Go Chief.

McCain: I learned everything from a Chief Petty Officer! Love it.

72 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:24pm

re: #64 Pullus Iulius

0 = All blow, no show.

I think he did blow a while ago.

73 neocon hippie  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:29pm

Bin Laden is so 2001, Barry.

74 RedinLA  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:30pm

Great. Now I want a cheem-mee-CHANNNNN-gah.

75 reno911  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:35pm

re: #57 Bobibutu

I had a Chief who worked for me who began every sentence with ....fuckin.

Damn I loved that guy.

76 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:36pm

Good question from the Navy Chief in the pink shirt

77 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:41pm

Good question - combines Israel and the UN(azis)

Good answer so far.

78 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:41pm

re: #6 MandyManners

BHO is a lying motherfucker.

HE CALLED FOR THE INVASION OF PAKISTAN.

Yaar! The MSM is in the bag for Obama. The reports of the success of massive homeless registered and vote progjects by ACORN at the same time is distressing also. Stand fast mates! We will beat the tyrants yet! Haaar!

79 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:44pm

re: #45 Shug

I put out a statement

Another fuc__ng statement !

Is that all this turd is good for? Statements.

He should be at the UN. They specialize in strongly worded statements.

80 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:26:53pm

Will Obama thank the Navy vet for his service? Ya think?

81 Sleepyone  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:02pm

McCain is in his element with this question on Israel.

82 holycrusader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:05pm

Score another one!

83 R134A  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:07pm

for all his coaching, the Obama is still an amature on foreign policy.
and all while being an arrogant little ****

84 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:16pm

I had to run downstairs and get chocolate and the bottle or wine. Did I miss any dazzling brilliance?

85 CapeCoddah  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:19pm

Now we will see how long it takes Obama to shake someone's hand, too.
Me too, me too!

86 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:21pm

re: #60 MandyManners

Mine was the same, but I sent his but packing off to bed. At nine he has more political acumen than some of my employees!

87 rw in san diego  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:36pm

League of Democracies! Yes! Dump the UN.

88 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:38pm

These questions are all premised on a false either/or dichotomy. There's no good way to answer them.

89 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:43pm
90 Wishing  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:46pm

re: #48 Athos

Obama is one of the pinheads who happens to think that if UBL is captured or confirmed dead - that the war would be over. How naive.

He is a naif!

91 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:47pm

re: #84 ArmyWife

no

92 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:51pm

re: #57 Bobibutu

I would have said BHO is a motherfucking liar.

But I spent time in the Navy .... profanity always comes before the description.

/

Ah. You've confused the parts of grammar.

Suffice it to say that I'll not give a lesson which I probably am not qualified to deliver.

93 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:52pm

McCain didn't exactly answer the question.
WTF is a game-changer?

94 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:53pm

..we are grateful for it. We? Obama is we?

95 Biff  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:55pm

Let the Israelis protect Israel. If they ask for our help we will give it. Period

96 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:55pm

We can never allow a second Holocaust to take place!

McCain got my vote (even if he didn't have it)

97 Billy Hank  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:27:58pm

The One uses the Imperial We to honor service.

98 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:00pm

0bama On Israel- Uh er uh er uh uh

99 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:00pm

OBAMA! This is NOT a game. ok, back to your blather.

100 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:01pm

It's been a hard wind a blow'n tonight on LGF...This won't probably post..
Now row little lizards! row! *cracks whip!*
row lizards!
/I'll be so embarrassed if this really posts..nothing else has :)

101 alien_mind  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:03pm

Obama wants to base his policy primarily on getting bin laden.
Bin laden is gravy, a luxury. we'll get him in time but it's stupid to act like he is the key to victory.

102 Bobibutu  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:06pm

re: #71 Semper Gumbi

Go Chief.

McCain: I learned everything from a Chief Petty Officer! Love it.

One could not have a better teacher.

103 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:18pm

Nope, Obama won't touch the vet. Fool.

104 Cartman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:18pm

Game-changer!

105 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:22pm

re: #84 ArmyWife

I had to run downstairs and get chocolate and the bottle or wine. Did I miss any dazzling brilliance?

Mac is wiping the floor with Obama.

106 holycrusader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:24pm

How can anyone think that Obama won this? No handshake? Idiot

107 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:24pm

Please tell me again why Jews will vote for Obama ..........

108 eon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:43pm

"We can never allow a second Holocaust"

And Obambi admits that Israel is one of our strongest allies.

McCain's fans are cheering.

Obambi's will be seething in 3, 2, 1............

eon

109 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:47pm

bottle OF wine. Sheesh, maybe I shouldn't have done that!

110 Thanos  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:48pm

Barack's not answering the question directly

111 rw in san diego  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:49pm

I will talk til the cows come home to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

112 Oriculum  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:52pm

Hell, I speak Spanish, and I won't order a burrrrrrito. It's just obnoxious.

113 SFGoth  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:54pm

That Navy guy's question was a huge pit for Obama -- he just tossed the UN under the bus too.

114 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:56pm

Barry- we don't get oil from Iran- China does.

115 a marine mom  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:28:58pm

Barry won't commit to standing up to help Israel. What a shame.

116 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:19pm

re: #80 arethusa

Will Obama thank the Navy vet for his service? Ya think?

Unsurprisingly, he did not.

117 Lakedog66  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:30pm

Awesome question CPO. Not waiting, knows that Russia and China would veto. John is on a roll

118 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:31pm

"Tough" message! Oooh! Scary!

119 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:35pm

Changing our oil consumption doesn't affect Iran- we don't get oil from Iran!

120 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:36pm

re: #107 JacksonTn

Please tell me again why Jews will vote for Obama ..........

Even the Jews on his ads are attacking his campaign for misusing their footage.

121 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:36pm
122 Sleepyone  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:39pm

"cost benefit analysis"?

wtf

123 devil in baggy pants  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:41pm

Say it, barry...


ISRAEL.


say it!

124 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:42pm

Obama wants to play a game of Go Fish with Dinnerjacket

125 Cognito  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:46pm

"Now, it may not work."

Wow -- ah, failure is not an option there, man.

126 jaxgtr  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:48pm

Didn't Jimma Carter say the same crap about talking to the Iranian's right before he spent 400 days in the White House wearing his sweater?

127 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:29:58pm
128 HDrepub  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:01pm

The libs think if you just get Osama bin Laden the WOT will be over forever. FOOLS.

129 HelloDare  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:03pm

What a fool Obama is. Why don't you use the example of Kennedy Khruschev again.

130 bnichols10  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:06pm

WTF is the "Community of Nations"?

131 Athos  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:08pm

Hmm, Direct talks with our enemies....and strongly worded letters that there would be dire consequences.......

What a lame answer.

132 Capitalistincharge  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:08pm

Obama won't answer the question: If Iran attacks Israel, Would you Send U.s. Troop? Instead he's talking about Iran and nukes.

133 tigerwoman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:08pm

North Korea Nukes thanks to Clinton....

134 nyc redneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:11pm

wait a minute, iran, cuba, venezuela they;re little countries.
they're not a threat.

135 Thanos  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:11pm

Kennedy's tough direct talk built the Berlin Wall.

136 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:15pm

0bama doesn't realize Russia and China blocks real sanctions on Iran, but McCain does.
0 will still talk with the Jew-hater, Ahamadmanonjihad.

And talks and sanctions on North Korea did shit. We need force.

137 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:20pm

Obama is just spouting gibberish. He's like those refrigerator magnet poetry kits – he just rearranges the same buzzwords and it makes no sense at all.

138 Cognito  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:20pm

Stupid question.

139 Sponge  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:22pm

Good gosh.......could 0bama through MORE rhetoric down as an answer?

Would you wait for UN approval to assist Israel?

Um....I would talk to everyone...and prevent it from happening.....by talking to iran about their nukes..........so Israel won't be attacked, so I'm not going to be attacked, so I don't have to worry about that.

140 Wishing  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:25pm

McCain tossed the UN under the bus as well, thank God

141 SummerSong  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:36pm

Friggin Barbara Walters question...

142 devil in baggy pants  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:39pm

Oh, goody...


Michelle will be his advisor!

143 Palandine  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:45pm

And if you were a tree, what kind would it be?

Gack. What the hell is wrong with undecided voters?

144 neocon hippie  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:47pm

Michelle had a mask-like expression.

145 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:55pm

"What don't you know, and how will you learn it?"

OK, no more for you, dude!

146 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:56pm

Why doesn't he say Israel with an Israeli accent?

147 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:56pm

"Centrifuges"

What a fucking moron. Does he really think Iran started obtaining centrifuges in the past 8 years?

148 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:58pm

Mechelle --- did he say that ............

149 Brigman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:58pm

the list is too long for BO

150 Sleepyone  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:30:59pm

The shrew shows herself!

151 RightMinded  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:01pm

There's not enough time before the election for Obama to list all the things he doesn't know!

152 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:06pm

Obama's a beta male.

153 vascaino4  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:09pm

I must say Mac has impressed me so far on tonight's debate. Maybe something from Sarah has finally rubbed off on him.

154 conrad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:09pm

Wow! Did he just say that Bush was at fault for Iran producing centrifuges and N Korea making more bombs (even though they have dismantled their reactor?)

155 Bobibutu  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:10pm

re: #92 MandyManners

Ah. You've confused the parts of grammar.

Suffice it to say that I'll not give a lesson which I probably am not qualified to deliver.

Thank goodness the Goddess is not with us presently or I would be in trouble.

156 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:11pm

He learns from michelle- THAT'S a scary answer!

157 Wishing  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:13pm

Michelle is my teacher...Lord help us all

158 eon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:20pm

"This country gave mo opportunity"

Don't tell your wife, she won't believe it.

eon

159 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:21pm

"Because of my typical white grandmother . . ."


Heh.

160 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:25pm

I don't know about y'all, but I want the next president to be capable of correctly pronouncing the word, "to."

Ta...

Ta...

ta...

161 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:25pm

Could we hear a little more about those scholarships?

162 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:26pm

re: #112 Oriculum

Hell, I speak Spanish, and I won't order a burrrrrrito. It's just obnoxious.

I usually say, "I must have burrrrrito! Burrrrito, for my bunghole! I am the GREAT CORNHOLIO!"

163 Siberian Khatru  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:28pm

Did I blink and miss it, or did Obama not bother to go over and shake the veteran's hand like McCain did?

164 rw in san diego  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:32pm

I don't know what tomorrow will bring, but I know how McCain has acted in the past. Obama's decisions and actions would be a crap shoot.

165 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:32pm

I'll ask Michelle how to be president

166 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:38pm

Oh, Christ, he's back on his immensely boring biography again. And whoever approved that question from New Hampshire should be shot.

167 Cognito  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:39pm

Rehashing his 2004 DNC speech.

Yeah, yeah. Very nice. A+ for composition.

168 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:39pm

Modest means my white hairy arse.

169 Brigman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:40pm

modest means? Columbia, Harvard, Chicago politics?

170 JSK1121  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:41pm

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!

171 bnichols10  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:41pm

How did he pay for Harvard Law anyway?

172 Capitalistincharge  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:43pm

Not answering the next question either. Think anybody but me notices.

173 Oriculum  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:44pm

"This country gave me opportunity." -- BHO
but this socialist ASS wants to tear it down.

174 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:47pm

re: #139 Sponge

Good gosh.......could 0bama through MORE rhetoric down as an answer?

Would you wait for UN approval to assist Israel?

Um....I would talk to everyone...and prevent it from happening.....by talking to iran about their nukes..........so Israel won't be attacked, so I'm not going to be attacked, so I don't have to worry about that.

and he said "it still might not work!" Uh...not an option, pal.

175 Wishing  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:48pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Obama's a beta male.

boot licker, for sure

176 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:48pm

Oh ferfucksakes.

food stamps?

Really Barry?

177 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:53pm

And you are still an ungrateful bastard .......... I hate you

178 CapeCoddah  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:54pm

re: #126 jaxgtr

Didn't Jimma Carter say the same crap about talking to the Iranian's right before he spent 400 days in the White House wearing his sweater?

While trying to figure out how to get American hostages back from Iran...

179 Lakedog66  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:55pm

Just say...We will help our allies at any times from attacks from outside sources.
Obama and the cost/benefit...WTF

180 uptight  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:56pm

Jesus wept - a doomsday cult theocracy like Iran isn't gonna fret at the cost/benefit analysis of wiping out Irsael.

That's his strategy?

shit

181 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:58pm

If the 0 really answered what he doesn't know we'd be here all night. Or year. Or decade.

He ISN'T ANWERING THE QUESTION!

182 loubob57  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:31:59pm

re: #138 Cognito

Stupid question.

Very touchy feely nonsense.

183 rp1138  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:04pm

League of Democracies FTW!

184 SummerSong  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:08pm

Couldn't have succeeded anywhere else in this country? I believe he meant anywhere else in the world.

185 Sleepyone  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:10pm

"don't know much about history...."

186 Oldasdirt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:11pm

he woulde'nt be standing there if it wasn't for Ayres

187 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:12pm

Oh G-D. Obama, you lying Fuck! It wasn't Bush. we haven't spoken to Iraq in almost 40 years! Geez, learn your history.

188 Egfrow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:14pm

I'm only able to see over other comment. This debate thread is really taxing LGF's server.

189 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:14pm
190 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:16pm
191 conrad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:18pm

Yes, 0bama, you are from modest means and a poor background...IN INDONESIA!

192 Intrepid  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:23pm

Spinny ball of hell avoidance...

193 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:27pm

re: #127 taxfreekiller

he will buddy up with Iran,

But he'll do it toughly.

/

194 yenta-fada  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:33pm

re: #49 unclassifiable

I think Obama has done so many drugs, it has sort of fried his short term memory. That happens with marijuana. Don't know about cocaine.

195 Biff  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:33pm

Let Sarah answer the question. She would rip O to shreds.

196 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:34pm

I don't understand Obama's last answer on what he needs to learn. Everyone needs to go to college?

197 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:47pm

He didn't answer the question.

he doesn't even know what he doesn't know and that's what so dangerous about him

198 nyclady  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:51pm

mccain won.
obama just blabbers. thats it. the word for the night.BLABBERING
NIGHT ALL

199 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:32:53pm

Did Obama actually say anything? That was a laundry list of Obama buzzwords, nothing more.

200 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:00pm

Wages and income have not gone down over the last 8 years, you lying fuck!

201 Wishing  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:08pm

He doesnt need to learn a thing, basically

202 jetprop  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:12pm

re: #163 Siberian Khatru

Did I blink and miss it, or did Obama not bother to go over and shake the veteran's hand like McCain did?

He did not

203 Catttt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:13pm

Democrats gave nuclear power to North Korea om 1994 after "promising" not to use it for weapons. That worked out well. That's what Barry didn't mention while he was talking about behavior mod for despots.

204 psyop  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:15pm

I think he just implied that Michelle would be a better candidate than he would....

205 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:16pm

I promise you, there is not ONE qualified student in this country who can't get a college education somehow, somewhere. They may have to start at a community college instead of the Ivy League, but then again, not everyone has crackpot Islamic conspiracy theorists willing to pay their tuition.

206 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:22pm

Obama just simply blew chunks.

This was a bloodbath.

Mac kicked ass.

207 RedBullHampster  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:24pm

re: #92 MandyManners

Ah. You've confused the parts of grammar.

Suffice it to say that I'll not give a lesson which I probably am not qualified to deliver.

Would it be any better to call him a motherfucking lying fuck?

208 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:25pm

OK...McCain has a much better answer. We don't know what will happen...so why go Obama? Do we really want him in charge when the unknown transpires?

209 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:27pm

What I don't know is exactly which drug the submitter of that question was using when they came up with that, and I will learn it through the use of a search warrant for that person's house.

210 spidly  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:29pm

re: #3 Semper Gumbi

hey where is everybody?

took a break. going to have to break this up into a few nights to get through it.

211 Athos  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:33pm

re: #193 Occasional Reader

But he'll do it toughly.

/

And right afterwards, Iran would have 10,000 centrifuges............

212 nyc redneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:38pm

re: #176 Racer X

Oh ferfucksakes.

food stamps?

Really Barry?

i bet that's lie

213 jaxgtr  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:39pm

Fundamental Change to Barry means turning the country socialist

214 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:47pm

barry completely bullshitted on that question without answering.

215 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:33:58pm

re: #138 Cognito

An update on the reports of nuts at Palin rally....
Secret Service Looking Into Potential Threat Against Obama

Wiley says the Secret Service did not begin looking into the matter until press reports, namely Dana Milbank's article in the Washington Post, surfaced today, because no agents at the event heard anything. "The Secret Service did not hear any threatening statements directed at targets under its protection and no threatening statements were reported to us by law enforcement or citizens at the event," Wiley told Radar. Also unclear: whether the remark was directed at Obama or Ayers if the words were actually "kill" and "him."

Wiley said that the Secret Service had tried to get in touch with Milbank to get his account of the event but was unsuccessful.
Were the they able to confirm the remark they'd "be looking to talk to that person," Wiley said. "We investigate everything because we take all threats seriously."

The reporter was the only one to hear it and is not returning calls from the Secret Service. I'm pretty suspicious.

216 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:00pm

re: #175 Wishing

boot licker, for sure

He'll lick Ahmaniejad's ass, and his boots.

McCain will KICK Ahmadinejad's ass.

217 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:13pm

re: #185 Sleepyone

"don't know much about history...."

That's for sure!

218 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:13pm

re: #206 Racer X

Obama just simply blew chunks.

This was a bloodbath.

Mac kicked ass.


bet you a buck all the networks say Obama won

219 JSK1121  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:24pm

Objectively (as you all can be) who won?

220 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:26pm

Stand up Stand up Stand up and fight with me ........

221 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:33pm

Oh Lord, co-president Michelle. We're cooked.

222 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:34pm

Good, McCain has the last word.

223 nyc redneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:43pm

great closing from mccain.

224 Catttt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:46pm

Lol.

225 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:46pm

He's here to serve. Love that closing Senator McCain.

226 rw in san diego  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:47pm

I believe in this country! And so do a great many of your fellow citizens, John.

227 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:47pm

Nice finish, Senator McCain.

228 jcm  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:50pm

Loved Macs closing.

229 toms38  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:51pm

This "extraordinary journey" business is terrible. But people love this stuff. Smart.

230 Sleepyone  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:52pm

Alpha, Omega!
Alpha, Omega!
Alpha, Omega!

231 Athos  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:56pm

Now come the talking heads.......and spinmeisters.

232 Shug  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:57pm

No bill ayers
No Franklin raines
no rev wright

damnit

233 SFGoth  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:34:59pm

re: #194 yenta-fada

I think Obama has done so many drugs, it has sort of fried his short term memory. That happens with marijuana. Don't know about cocaine.

Happens with alcohol and painkillers too.

234 CapeCoddah  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:01pm

For what my opinion is worth, I think McCain kicked Barry's arse.

235 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:09pm

Obama was blocking the Brokaw's teleprompter? Oh, the irony!

236 Capitalistincharge  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:10pm

McCain's last comments were awesome! Go Johnny!

237 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:14pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

An update on the reports of nuts at Palin rally....
Secret Service Looking Into Potential Threat Against Obama

The reporter was the only one to hear it and is not returning calls from the Secret Service. I'm pretty suspicious.

Didn't I say it was suspicious?

238 Catttt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:20pm

Barry got in the way.

239 eon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:32pm

Thank you, hamsters!

/Now go take a break- you deserve it

cheers

eon

240 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:34pm

re: #155 Bobibutu

Thank goodness the Goddess is not with us presently or I would be in trouble.

FUCK.

241 Lakedog66  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:38pm

American Dream? Yes he will, I expect to require food stamps when he is done

242 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:38pm
243 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:45pm

re: #219 JSK1121

Objectively (as you all can be) who won?

I would give McCain a small point advantage, being as objective as I can (which I can't).

244 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:46pm

now will we lose all those sharpshooting posters with total comments under 300?

245 spidly  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:51pm

re: #219 JSK1121

Objectively (as you all can be) who won?

can I say both lost?

246 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:35:53pm

So, who won?

247 psyop  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:06pm

re: #212 nyc redneck

i bet that's lie

No, it isn't. Medved had some great material regarding this. Apparently, at elite colleges, trust fund babies make a habit of getting food stamps, even while they go to schools requiring tens of thousands in tuition. Because they "technically" qualify by showing no income, and being a student.

248 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:09pm

Wow, McCain's close was simply super. He hit to the heart of it all in just a few words.

Clearly the debate winner was McCain, but those who read the daily rag and don't see the debate will never know it.

That's because the media is not longer in the business of seeking and finding the truth.

249 rw in san diego  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:11pm

LOL Loving Brit Hume's comment about much of the debate being taken up with the moderator's concerns.

250 JSK1121  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:25pm

re: #245 spidly

can I say both lost?

You can say 'America lost.'

251 conrad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:25pm

Ya notice that every time the big 0 mentions the economic policy of the past 8 years that he is referring to capitalism and free enterprise, right? He want to replace it. We, the thinking people, know what a jerk sock puppet like 0 will replace it with!

252 Outrider  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:31pm

McCain needed to make a comeback? Yeesh.

253 HDrepub  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:32pm

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey

"Hello, I am Barack Obama. I am the sock puppet for my WAB."

That should be WBAB.

254 Racer X  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:33pm

re: #218 Shug

bet you a buck all the networks say Obama won

They have no choice but to say he won - they have a vested interest in Obama.

255 hillbilly geek  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:34pm

Charles: a formatting request for the main comment form here at the bottom of the page... can it be a little shorter? When I jump to the bottom, I have to scroll back up to see the last comment (1440x900 macbook running safari) It would be great to be able to jump to the bottom and still see that last bit of comments...

256 rp1138  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:36:48pm

Wow. Brokaw was a worse moderator than even Leher, and I didn't even think that was possible.

"Please stick to the clock or I might cry."

F'in pussy.

257 Egfrow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:02pm

McCain didn't have the ball's to press Barry on his associations.

258 Siberian Khatru  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:03pm

re: #214 Sharmuta

barry completely bullshitted on that question without answering.

"A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

259 crashnburn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:04pm

Did the CNN "Undecided voter track" look really obviously like "Undecided Democrats"?

260 kevinmumaw  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:11pm

I have to say, as the lefties make fun of Palin saying Nucular...if I hear Obama say Pokee-ston, one more time, I'm going to vomit.

261 Sleepyone  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:13pm

re: #246 NomadOfNorad

So, who won?

I'm mostly concerned about who's going to win. But then again, I have faith that America will not put a socialist in the White House.

262 HelloDare  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:24pm

re: #221 Pullus Iulius

Oh Lord, co-president Michelle. We're cooked.

President Obama's first decree: "This is Michelle's favorite casserole. American's will eat it every Tuesday evening.

263 alien_mind  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:24pm

i didn't like the format, and didn't like this debate overall.

264 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:29pm

re: #207 RedBullHampster

Would it be any better to call him a motherfucking lying fuck?

Maybe. Maybe not. I'd give it a thumb's up.

265 a marine mom  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:40pm

Anybody up for spamming some internet polls the the kos kids?

/just kidding

266 Oldasdirt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:44pm

Might be my imagination,,but looked to me,,more people wanted to shake McCain's hand than did obama's

267 Bobibutu  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:53pm

re: #240 MandyManners

FUCK.

Thank you my dear. You are such a resource.

268 Egfrow  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:37:58pm

Again, it's going to fall back to the VP.

269 Catttt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:00pm

Senator McCain "did real good."

Barry spouted platitudes and worked at dropping his gs all over the floor.

270 jcm  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:00pm

Schaffer's calling it a tie.

Translation: McCain won.

271 shibumi  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:20pm

Seems like the pundit on Fox is giving this to Obama- saying McCain didn't do anything to change the sweeping Obama tide that is washing over the country like plague.

272 toms38  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:29pm

I don't know if he planned the Wright/Ayers stuff, but I'm glad he did not go there in this debate. it would not have fit- it would have seemed forced and just not right. They should hit hard in ads/campaigning, but here would have been wrong. Agreed?

273 crashnburn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:35pm

Michelle ought to get a dress that fits - the pulling back showed her zipper even on a low def hotel screen!

274 doriangrey  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:35pm

Do the hamsters finally get a reprieve?

275 eon  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:44pm

re: #231 Athos

Now come the talking heads.......and spinmeisters.

I had to turn the TV off. It was on CBS, and they immediately brought on Chirpy Katie to tell us what we'd just heard.

/gag

cheers

eon

276 Catttt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:45pm

re: #245 spidly

can I say both lost?

You can say whatever you want on who won or didn't - it's a free country.

277 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:38:56pm

And with this it's time to go to work. Have a good night folks, enjoy the post debate blood letting.

/save some BBQ gamey buttock for me please? Just put it in the FRIDGE

278 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:39:01pm

And now, the Fox talking heads with the usual "no knockout punches" line. They seem to expect one of these to turn out like a "Law & Order" episode, where the guilty party blurts out his confession on the stand. "YES! YES! I'M A MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE PUT UP BY SAUDI INTERESTS AND GEORGE SOROS! NOW GET OFF MY BACK!"

279 Wide Right  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:39:44pm

More Red Bull for the hamsters...

280 crashnburn  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:39:45pm

Wow - Campbell Brown was introduced as a "non-partisan" commentator!

281 Intrepid  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:39:58pm

No comment button.

282 toms38  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:40:11pm

#278 that is hilarious. They always do that on CSI as well.

283 Rockman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:40:28pm

presidential debates should be damn near un-moderated and last a minimum of four hours. i feel ripped off. Too many refutable points are left hanging when only 2 minutes are alloted for discussion. does this have to do with the MSM or their estimation of our attention spans?

284 neocon hippie  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:40:47pm

The networks said that Obama won before the date even started.

285 conrad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:40:51pm

Huh...I didn't know that they gave food stamps IN INDONESIA!

286 RedBullHampster  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:41:20pm

re: #264 MandyManners

Thanks for your highly valued opinion. I Just put a big ass McCain / Palin sign in my yard. I wonder who will vandalize it first. I have 2 security cameras trained on it.

287 Catttt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:41:24pm

re: #273 crashnburn

Michelle ought to get a dress that fits - the pulling back showed her zipper even on a low def hotel screen!

I was going to say she looks ok, then I noticed the dress pulling around the back - you're right. Not a good moving dress. Good holding still dress.

288 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:41:29pm

Stephen Green: Instant analysis? McCain won, but not by nearly enough to matter. He was up against a punk kid, and barely came away on points. Barely

289 Drake_Vandenberg  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:41:52pm

McCain needs a debate coach to tell him 2 things:

1- When attacked, respond to the attack with an "affirmative defense". Obama accuses you of causing this financial crisis, don't be afraid to be outraged at this outrageous allegation and then flip it back on him. Say in very clear terms: "No, me and my party didn't cause this, you and yours caused this disaster and are now lying about it to blame it on us." Then explain point by point to the American people why this is the case. This is a serious allegation, it's the allegation that the whole election pivots on and it's not a time to be afraid of sounding "mean".

2- Loose the "My friends" line. It sounds creepy and phony.

290 R134A  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:42:10pm

now the MSM trips all over themselves to attach their lips to Obamas ass and declare him the winner, pathetic

291 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:42:11pm

Let's all head out to the lefties post-debate polls now!

292 Catttt  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:42:15pm

Barry is a gasbag. He kept jumping in to rebut, when it wasn't in the schedule. Got really annoying. REALLY annoying.

293 rednaxela  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:42:32pm

Definitely boring.

But I think that was Brokaw's fault. I mean 6 million questions and that all he comes up with? Holy crap.

294 conrad  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:42:36pm

re: #286 RedBullHampster

Good luck! They have been setting them on fire here in beautiful Oakland, CA.

295 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:42:49pm
296 nyc redneck  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:43:12pm

re: #247 psyop

No, it isn't. Medved had some great material regarding this. Apparently, at elite colleges, trust fund babies make a habit of getting food stamps, even while they go to schools requiring tens of thousands in tuition. Because they "technically" qualify by showing no income, and being a student.

well, ultimately, it was a lie.
fraudulently getting food stamps.

297 unclassifiable  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:43:16pm

re: #194 yenta-fada

I don't know about drugs but I do know that when you are just making up crap that you tend to stammer a lot more then someone who is speaking from the heart and is passionate about their beliefs.

Barry might be smooth but his internal teleprompter is on the fritz and when it is he has nothing else to guide him.

298 kevinmumaw  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:43:20pm

I'm having a real hard time believing these were all undecided voters. I just saw a rather large black woman with a shaved head shoving people out of the way so she could get her picture with Barack. At least wait until the cameras are off to admit you lied to get in the audience.

/Was that racist of me? My Puerto Rican-Jewish wife pointed it out to me.

299 Gallatin  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:43:32pm

Obama ducked more questions than McCain and that respect I think McCain won the evening. But not by what he needed to. McCain didn't bring any fire or
digressive tactics to the debate. I would sooner have watched Palin debate Obama - "Say it ain't so, O"

-Gallatin

300 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:43:47pm

Stupid focus group's on...

301 Meremortal  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:44:06pm

"Good evening everyone, glad you could make our meeting. Who wants to go first tonight?"

"Hello, my name is Barack and I am a socialist."

302 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:44:13pm

BHOs strategy is to have us imagine that we are all in soup kitchens.
I life situation is pretty good, but then, I was never reckless with debt.
I save money. I live within my means.
Things are not bad for me and mine, even now.
But, if he becomes POTUS, maybe I will go on welfare just to piss him off.

303 neocon hippie  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:44:14pm

Most everything either candidate said we've heard before dozens of times. Boring. What's it matter anyway? The MSM would spin it in favor of Obama in any case.

304 Sponge  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:44:27pm

Wow....I've reread my posts, and I shouldn't listen to debates, drink and comments.

305 HDrepub  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:45:24pm

re: #273 crashnburn

Michelle ought to get a dress that fits - the pulling back showed her zipper even on a low def hotel screen!

Buffarillas are hard to fit in a dress.

306 tokyobk  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:45:31pm

The whole Obama foreign language thing is such a tell for what kind of guy he is. He has absolutely no excuse for not speaking at least one other language having freakin lived abroad and having a good education. Fine if he doesn't but then he lectures Americans for being provincial. Now he throws in exotic pronunciations to seem spohismocated. I am with whover above said they speak Spanish but never order Burrrrrrrrrritos. I am the same way when I am in the states and speaking to another American about something French or Japanese, using the standard American pronounciation. Anything else is obnoxious pretense.

307 RedBullHampster  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:45:54pm

re: #294 conrad

Should be fun. 4 of July a neighbor bought me a new mailbox when their kids cracked mine with fireworks. Really good pictures I had.

308 arethusa  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:46:40pm

The focus group thinks McCain did better on the economy? Brit and I are both amazed.

309 gmsc  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:46:41pm

Leela: There's a political debate on! Quick, change the channel!

Bender: Hey, that's what Fry said when we turned on the debate!

310 Wide Right  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:47:22pm

Great night to be in The Lounge. The Lizards were on fire tonight. Good job, crew. Cheers!...and thank you too, Charles.

311 yochanan  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:47:49pm

g mcgovern commerical supporting secret union elections WOW AM I SUPPRISED NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD AGREE WITH G. MCGOVERN ON ANYTHING

312 Cartman  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:49:29pm

On a my 1-10 scale: JM - 7.5 BHO - 5.5

John didn't do what I was hoping he would do. He was better tonight, and certainly better than Barry, but I feel he came up short. Maybe the format didn't end up lending itself to the delivery of a knockout blow, but the reality here is that the punch just wasn't thrown. I will continue to support and help campaign for JM all the way to the election, but I sure wish he had taken on the socialist pretender full in the face. Sigh.

313 Dianna  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:50:07pm

re: #278 Occasional Reader

And now, the Fox talking heads with the usual "no knockout punches" line. They seem to expect one of these to turn out like a "Law & Order" episode, where the guilty party blurts out his confession on the stand. "YES! YES! I'M A MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE PUT UP BY SAUDI INTERESTS AND GEORGE SOROS! NOW GET OFF MY BACK!"

LOL!

I can't seem to upding tonight. Sorry to waste bandwidth.

314 right_on_target  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:50:15pm

Game changer! Obama thinks everything is a game? Juvenile, grow up!

315 yenta-fada  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 7:55:20pm

re: #297 unclassifiable

You are right. Barry is just saying what his advisors told him would sound right. He lacks conviction unless he is discussing one of his many leftist talking points. The stuttering seems to occur when he's less sure of himself. The inability to recall the main point of the issue is where I notice the possible short term memory loss. He's perfectly comfortable spouting bullsh!t; ergo not as much stuttering. Bullsh!t is his natural habitat.

316 yesandno  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 8:03:16pm

Think McCain said more that needed to be said. But the formatting of the questions didn't get to the heart of anything new. And we needed something to break open for McCain that couldn't in this format because of the moderation and the questions that were asked. Too scripted questions to scripted answers.

What was lost in all of this was the necessity to get your point across while there is still time to define yourself and your oponent.

Think Obama on defensive more...but not sure if that mattered in the long run.

Brokaw is past his prime....way past.

317 shiplord kirel  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 8:03:36pm

"That one..."
RACIST!
/

Andrea Mitchell is a painfully obvious tank-turd for Obama.

318 avspatti  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 8:03:58pm

re: #275 eon

I cannot stand any of them. I am listening to the radio . . . Hugh Hewitt et al.

319 avspatti  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 8:09:11pm

Anyone else hate this format? What Americans need is some real in-depth debating, not this farce. Who can get to the heart of anything in one or two minutes? All we get are sound bites. Lame, very lame. Are we going to get the government we deserve? May God help us all.

320 Viking6  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 8:16:59pm

My wife just about threw me out when I started violently yelling at Brokenjaw about that no nothing prig (very appropriate term for Barry). I am getting toooo old for this stuff. Let the second revolution start so I can still participate before I keel over from a broken blood vessel.

While McCain is not the smoothest talker at least he can make complete sentences that actually make sense.

321 avspatti  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 8:19:50pm

re: #292 Catttt

Barry is a gasbag. He kept jumping in to rebut, when it wasn't in the schedule. Got really annoying. REALLY annoying.

Just like he kept trying to interrupt in the first debate. Whatever the O man wants, the O man gets. The heck with the rules. Rules are for the little people. Totally disgusting.

322 redmirabai  Tue, Oct 7, 2008 9:41:53pm

I only saw the last few questions, and I've learned a lot about what went on before from these threads. But, from what I did see, Mac seems to be trying to almost gently get his message through. No temper, no fireworks: just honest plain talk, which is what he promises for his administration. He's a seasoned politician, and this campaign is the culmination of a long career of winning elections. I think that, as frustrating as it is to those who know he must be our next president, this strategy may be to reach "undecided" voters, those uneasy about O's resume and past, the doubters: reach them not with personality alone, but with honesty. Not flatter them with bullshit, like O has been getting away with. O was a gasbag tonight.

And whoever that last question came from should be sentenced to listen to O's non-answer on a loop, for all eternity.


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