6 million- here we come!

re: #1 Sharmuta

6 million- here we come!

Only 500 to go!

/gonna be a long night

I want Charles to offer free health care for life to the winner.

/

CNN is now reporting that Asian markets crashed

Asian Markets down 10% .......fu*king soros

re: #4 winston06

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

re: #5 JacksonTn

effing Liberals

re: #2 cliffster

have a good night, already! :P

Dow futures down another 200 right now.

LGF message numbers still on an uptrend.

LGF - Better, Stronger, Faster

Yee-Haaa!

Huh?

re: #5 JacksonTn

I wouldn't put it past Soros to be behind all of this.

Going to take Xanax ........ my head is exploding ........ let's just call the election off ........

re: #13 JacksonTn

Advil?

Prove it.

re: #15 Cognito

what?

What is asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.

So my standard response to BS is still good. Cool.

re: #15 Cognito

Prove it.

It's proven. And also disproved.

re: #16 winston06

what?

Just a little joke about Hitchens's quote at the top.

re: #4 winston06

CNN is now reporting that Asian markets crashed

With the way they drive it's no surprise. (rimshot)

re: #15 Cognito

LOL, you and are were channeling there.

re: #19 Cognito

haha

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

25 miles East of San Francisco.

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring your suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat and thanks to LGF - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Plenty of parking ... 100+.

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

Rawmuse hosted that one.

We all like each other.

I volunteered to host the next meet.

This is it.

So far the winner of distance and out of state is from Nevada.

You go girl!

Any challengers?

*mutter mutter* Figures, make a post and a new thread comes up. Picked up the ggt curse tonight.

If I had the time, I'd take transcripts from the debates and Fisk all the statements from Obama and Biden, line by line. Maybe even embed youtube clips of them contradicting themselves where relevant. They LIE, G-d help me (and all of us), do they ever lie like snakes, totally misrepresenting themselves in every way, making stuff up out of thin air, flip-flopping on the fly like burgers on John Kerry's backyard grill. All that crap about the Paulson letter (huh?), Pakistan, Iran, "that's not true John", Lebanon, pick a subject, any subject, they've spun around it like tops. The only person calling them on it is Sarah Palin.

McCain needs to fight back against this crap. Shoot down the McBush meme, shoot down "deregulating", make Obama AFRAID to use the phrase "the last eight years" because he knows if he says it, he'll be gutted like a fish live on teevee.

SENATOR, YOU ARE ON ROUTE PACK 6 OVER HANOI, NOT HAVING AN ARGUMENT OVER A CARD GAME IN THE READY ROOM

Wait for the crash. Cash is king. Try American Funds. Washington Mutual. New Perspective. If it goes bad, my name is Cognito.

re: #25 Pawn of the Oppressor

he won't do it. Palin could do it though

re: #24 BlueCanuck

*mutter mutter* Figures, make a post and a new thread comes up. Picked up the ggt curse tonight.

I do that all the time ........

I'd like to see Hitchens prove that.

Good gosh amighty.

The global financial scene is completely fracturing.

re: #27 winston06

he won't do it. Palin could do it though

Could, would and walk away smilin"

Christopher Hitchens is a mixed bag but I do respect him as an honest man. He hasn't wigged out like Andrew Sullivan.

re: #27 winston06

he won't do it. Palin could do it though

Maybe Sarah will give him enough sh-t that he'll get tough.

"Gosh darnit John, I'm having fun out there, you should try it too. Go ahead. Bash him, call him a liar... It feels GOOD."

Regarding the topic of the thread, is there actually a way to prove the accuracy of polls?

The way polls get thrown around in politics seems utterly useless to me, and I say that even when "my" guy is ahead.

re: #16 winston06

Oops, didn't see your comment when I made mine.

re: #32 MrPaulRevere

CH is an anti totalitarian individual and a real thinker

Well.

Guess we're back to bartering.

re: #35 HelloDare
that's ok

Only one man up to the job.

Worst case scenario---stock up on lead.

Then why did Hitchens write god is not great if he thinks there is no evidence for God.

re: #34 Indymaestro

Regarding the topic of the thread, is there actually a way to prove the accuracy of polls?

The way polls get thrown around in politics seems utterly useless to me, and I say that even when "my" guy is ahead.

Numbers in politics are almost always lies. Votes, polls, statistics, they are all skewed. Except maybe the "internal polling", I would venture. Obama's people might be crapping bricks because their internal polls show them down 25% among American citizens without criminal records...

re: #40 Hard Right

Worst case scenario---stock up on lead.

Hahaha. I'm collecting bottle caps as we speak.

re: #37 Cognito

Well.

Guess we're back to bartering.

I tried my hand at short selling but no one would offer me anything at all for my shorts.

re: #37 Cognito

Whole point to this market crisis is not to panic. What we have been seeing is the panic sellers. Those are the ones that are going to lose in the long run. Everyone should just hold tight and breathe deeply. And remember it's "Buy low, sell high".

re: #41 HelloDare

He screwed up with the homo sapiens.

re: #41 HelloDare

Then why did Hitchens write god is not great if he thinks there is no evidence for God.

Never mind I just answered my own question.

re: #41 HelloDare

I think he is more against RELIGIOUS dogma than the notion of god

CNBC is saying nothing about Asian tanking. And they were all over it the other night when Russian markets closed after, oh, 8 minutes.

re: #45 BlueCanuck

Whole point to this market crisis is not to panic. What we have been seeing is the panic sellers. Those are the ones that are going to lose in the long run. Everyone should just hold tight and breathe deeply. And remember it's "Buy low, sell high".

I'm not all that concerned about traders, to be honest. They'll be fine, if they're smart.

I'm concerned about the employment scene.

re: #44 Moe Katz

I tried my hand at short selling but no one would offer me anything at all for my shorts.

In Japan you could sell them from vending machines.

re: #1 Sharmuta

6 million- here we come!

here's something on Zogby from 2004

Just a wordof encouragement to my fellow lizzards. Because our California business was on the ropes we had to liquidate some stocks and bonds I inherited. Turns out if we hadn't we probably would have lost a huge amount of money. At the time it seemed horrible. Now it seems a miracle we didn't lose everything. God works in mysterious ways!

re: #45 BlueCanuck

No money left to buy anything.

re: #49 cliffster

CNN switched to its international network

WOOT!

What is asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.

Prove it!

I must apologize. They showed separate questions for each candidate.

re: #55 winston06

CNN switched to its international network

CNN has a good thing going, there. They're whipping Fox right now. Obviously the audience is small at the moment, but it hurts Fox in the long run.

re: #53 nigella

Just a wordof encouragement to my fellow lizzards. Because our California business was on the ropes we had to liquidate some stocks and bonds I inherited. Turns out if we hadn't we probably would have lost a huge amount of money. At the time it seemed horrible. Now it seems a miracle we didn't lose everything. God works in mysterious ways!

How many times are you going to go to bed tonight? :^) Just kidding, I have trouble sleeping too. I like your point.

Golly! When ya make more, ya live higher on the hog.
/
/
/
/ Whould'a thunk?
/

You think 6,000,000 posts is enough but Colonel Cathcart has just raised the quota to 7,000,000 each. Now back to your oars slaves.

re: #44 Moe Katz

I tried my hand at short selling but no one would offer me anything at all for my shorts.

I'm taking a long position in my shorts.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the 6 millionth comment was from a whack job troll or moby?

re: #54 LaMano

No money left to buy anything.

we're hoping to find an investment house sometime this year, if the price is right. but I only owe 18K on the current one.

re: #26 pat

Wait for the crash. Cash is king. Try American Funds. Washington Mutual. New Perspective. If it goes bad, my name is Cognito.

Fooey. Split your money between these stocks at Friday closing prices: HNZ, TGT, GE, and why not, BAC. Hold for a year. If it goes bad, pat's name is Cognito.

re: #45 BlueCanuck

Whole point to this market crisis is not to panic. What we have been seeing is the panic sellers. Those are the ones that are going to lose in the long run. Everyone should just hold tight and breathe deeply. And remember it's "Buy low, sell high".

I AM NOT PANICKING!
(ducks back down into bunker while holding AK-47)

re: #64 MrPaulRevere

Wouldn't it be ironic if the 6 millionth comment was from a whack job troll or moby?

Mr. Spock says there is 23.7% probablility of that outcome.

re: #55 winston06

Don't turn it off .......................... otherwise, they will lose half the audience share.

could someone from Chicago please explain to me how in the hell William Ayers and Bernadette Dorhn receive a 100 Million Dollar grant to radicalize young school children? My God! What the helll are they thinking in that city?

re: #59 Cognito

CNN has a good thing going, there. They're whipping Fox right now. Obviously the audience is small at the moment, but it hurts Fox in the long run.

Wait - what?

re: #59 Cognito

East coast is sleeping and the those West Coasters who cared about the elections watched the debate live.

re: #62 lifeofthemind

OK, Major Major.

Repost from the previous dead thread (ignore if you've already seen it):

------

Anybody here ever take psychology courses in college?

I'm trying track down the specifics of an famous experiment done in the '50s, but I don't know the name of the experimenters or the college where it happened or anything else. I do vividly remember reading about it, and can even remember the photos. I'm going to describe it here in the hope that somebody else recognizes the experiment and can give me any clue as to the who and where and why and when.

This was the experiment:

An advertisement was placed around campus asking for student volunteers to participate in a vision test. 20 or so students signed up.

Before the experiment begins, the students are told they have to fill out questionnaires. One of the students is brought to a room and given a questionnaire, and he is led to believe all the other volunteers are also filling out the same questionnaire in other rooms. In fact, the other 19 are brought into a lecture hall and informed that the experiment is not a vision experiment at all, but a psychology experiment. They are told, without explaining why, to purposely give the wrong answer to every question in the vision test. All agree to do so.

Then all 20 students are brought into the experiment center. The "test" begins. The experimenters display on the screen two horizontal lines, one above the other. The bottom line is very obviously slightly longer than the top line. The experimenters ask everyone to say out loud which line is longer. 19 of the volunteers, as instructed, lie and say "The top line." The remaining volunteer, who, unbeknownst to him, is the actual subject of the test, says (accurately) "The bottom line."

Then they show another pair of lines. Once again, the 19 volunteers give the wrong answer, and the subject gives the right answer. But this time he's starting to look visibly unconfortable.

A third pair of lines goes up, and this time, in the face of 19 opposing answers, he really, really squints at the screen, shakes his head, says (correctly) "The top line -- I think."

He's starting to crack.

On and on the rounds go. And I'm sure by now you can guess where this is headed. Eventually, the test subject starts doubting his own eyes and giving the wrong answer -- first tentatively, then confidently. But he seems resigned.

At the end, they have successfully brainwashed the test subject to give the wrong answer every time, in complete contradiction to his own perceptions.

The experiment could never be repeated in the modern world, because by our standards it would be considered unethical. But it's considered a landmark experiment nonetheless.

My question is: Have you ever heard of this experiment before? I may have misremembered some details of it, but the gist is accurate. Do you have any suggestions, clues or guesses as to when or where it was held, or where you read about it, or who conducted it?

Thanks.

re: #52 spidly

Uh- no. After his failed prediction he said he'd stick to polling. His poll numbers were still accurate even if his personal prediction wasn't.

re: #69 LaMano

I am watching military channel now... they r running a show on tet offensive in Vietnam and i love the Marines

re: #71 stuiec

Wait - what?

What what?

re: #62 lifeofthemind

You think 6,000,000 posts is enough but Colonel Cathcart has just raised the quota to 7,000,000 each. Now back to your oars slaves.

And beatings? Will there be beatings?

re: #70 Strike Hornet

terrible place

re: #78 BlueCanuck

And beatings? Will there be beatings?

Spankings, maybe?

Ok, this poster is just funny. (via Michelle Malkin)

OBAMA!

opened a td ameritrade account 2 weeks ago and stuck some money in there. have not bought anything yet. hooooold.....hoooooold.....hooooold

re: #82 spidly

buying is good...

re: #74 zombie

Repost from the previous dead thread (ignore if you've already seen it):

------

Anybody here ever take psychology courses in college?

I'm trying track down the specifics of an famous experiment done in the '50s, but I don't know the name of the experimenters or the college where it happened or anything else. I do vividly remember reading about it, and can even remember the photos. I'm going to describe it here in the hope that somebody else recognizes the experiment and can give me any clue as to the who and where and why and when.

This was the experiment:

An advertisement was placed around campus asking for student volunteers to participate in a vision test. 20 or so students signed up.

Before the experiment begins, the students are told they have to fill out questionnaires. One of the students is brought to a room and given a questionnaire, and he is led to believe all the other volunteers are also filling out the same questionnaire in other rooms. In fact, the other 19 are brought into a lecture hall and informed that the experiment is not a vision experiment at all, but a psychology experiment. They are told, without explaining why, to purposely give the wrong answer to every question in the vision test. All agree to do so.

Then all 20 students are brought into the experiment center. The "test" begins. The experimenters display on the screen two horizontal lines, one above the other. The bottom line is very obviously slightly longer than the top line. The experimenters ask everyone to say out loud which line is longer. 19 of the volunteers, as instructed, lie and say "The top line." The remaining volunteer, who, unbeknownst to him, is the actual subject of the test, says (accurately) "The bottom line."

Then they show another pair of lines. Once again, the 19 volunteers give the wrong answer, and the subject gives the right answer. But this time he's starting to look visibly unconfortable.

A third pair of lines goes up, and this time, in the face of 19 opposing answers, he really, really squints at the screen, shakes his head, says (correctly) "The top line -- I think."

He's starting to crack.

On and on the rounds go. And I'm sure by now you can guess where this is headed. Eventually, the test subject starts doubting his own eyes and giving the wrong answer -- first tentatively, then confidently. But he seems resigned.

At the end, they have successfully brainwashed the test subject to give the wrong answer every time, in complete contradiction to his own perceptions.

The experiment could never be repeated in the modern world, because by our standards it would be considered unethical. But it's considered a landmark experiment nonetheless.

My question is: Have you ever heard of this experiment before? I may have misremembered some details of it, but the gist is accurate. Do you have any suggestions, clues or guesses as to when or where it was held, or where you read about it, or who conducted it?

Thanks.

I posted a link on this for you on last thread......Solomon Asche experiment from 1950's

re: #66 itellu3times

All ready have. lol

This post should be able to push it over the top ......................... especially with everyone being so HIGHLY energized from the "debate".

OK cliffster I'm out of here.... Just need some re- assurance that we won't be waking up in November to an Obama presidency. God bless you all and a true good night!

re: #5 JacksonTn

Asian Markets down 10% .......fu*king soros

no: soros is fu*king us.

re: #74 zombie

Oops, ignore my #74 -- I already found the answer!

re: #88 redc1c4

so true

The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts
of "loyalty" and "duty".. Whenever these twin concepts
fall into disrepute - get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself,
but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed."
-LAZARUS LONG-

re: #84 Inquisitive

I posted a link on this for you on last thread......Solomon Asche experiment from 1950's

Zombie #1246

re: #75 Sharmuta

Uh- no. After his failed prediction he said he'd stick to polling. His poll numbers were still accurate even if his personal prediction wasn't.

did you read his numbers from 2004? 3 or 4 points outside the margin of error

re: #43 Cognito

Hahaha. I'm collecting bottle caps as we speak.

And whey powder.

re: #80 Sharmuta

Spankings, maybe?

Whoooo.....kinky.

re: #87 nigella

OK cliffster I'm out of here.... Just need some re- assurance that we won't be waking up in November to an Obama presidency. God bless you all and a true good night!

good night, nigella

- "Political tags.. such as royalist, communist, democrat,
populist, fascist, liberal, conservative and so forth.. are never basic
criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people
to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists
acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number.
The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism.
But they are the more comfortable neighbors than the other sort."
-LAZARUS LONG-

re: #83 winston06

buying is good...

not quite yet. gotta wait until the bone starts knitting at least

re: #70 Strike Hornet

could someone from Chicago please explain to me how in the hell William Ayers and Bernadette Dorhn receive a 100 Million Dollar grant to radicalize young school children? My God! What the helll are they thinking in that city?

They are thinking what the trustees of foundations everywhere in the USA think: how can we use our endowment to change America for the better, into the hopeful, caring nation we know it can be? Then they find the most committed Communists they can to take their money and start changing the world. Education is a particularly attractive target, since the Revolution depends on widespread ignorance and a radicalized cadre to break as many eggs as will be necessary for the omlette in the making.

re: #74 zombie

That was the Iowa caucuses.

I have around $80,000 in the market. Early this summer my brokers moved the bulk of it to bond funds, and I REFUSE to panic. I am pissed off as hell that this occurred but panic? No. Not in my nature.

re: #88 redc1c4

no: soros is fu*king us.

He's PWNING us, actually.

re: #91 lummox

Damn, going to have to dig out my notebooks again. Lazarus always had a quote that could fit almost anywhere. My personal favourite was "some people would rather be a live jackal then a dead lion. Me? I would prefer to be a live lion."

I mentioned to my son that New Mexico could be this election's Florida. He said Ohio is already set up to be challenged with all the voter fraud occuring as we spoke. It then dawned on us that McCain probably won't even fight a close count like Gore did, putting the country first and all that.

re: #78 BlueCanuck

And beatings? Will there be beatings?

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

re: #74 zombie

But, but, but... they already answered you in that thread. Something about Asch and conformity.

Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Rashid Khalidi, Khalid Al Mansoor, Louis Farrakan.

With friends like these, I am hopeful about Nov. 4.

re: #99 stuiec

They are thinking what the trustees of foundations everywhere in the USA think: how can we use our endowment to change America for the better, into the hopeful, caring nation we know it can be? Then they find the most committed Communists they can to take their money and start changing the world. Education is a particularly attractive target, since the Revolution depends on widespread ignorance and a radicalized cadre to break as many eggs as will be necessary for the omlette in the making.

As long as they break them on a flat surface so pieces of the shell don't fall in the bowl.

re: #37 Cognito

Well.

Guess we're back to bartering.

bartering is for people who don't own guns.

As scarce as truth is, the supply invariably exceeds the demand. anon

re: #107 rednaxela

You forgot Michelle Obama

re: #107 rednaxela

Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Rashid Khalidi, Khalid Al Mansoor, Louis Farrakan.

With friends like these, I am hopeful about Nov. 4.

If those were my friends, I wouldn't be hopeful.

they have all these recommendations to buy these energy companies that look like they suck balls. wait 'til after the election and then maybe

re: #107 rednaxela

It's going to make an interesting guest book at the White One's House.

re: #113 spidly

every thing will be fine by the end of March 2009

ok, now CNBC is talking about the Asia market carnage. Oops, back over to some doltish looking British tool. "Hang Seng H-Shares down by 9.7% in the first 25 seconds of trading, back to you, boring brit"

Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Rashid Khalidi, Khalid Al Mansoor, Louis Farrakan.

Too bad McCain barely remembers who they are. Too busy worying about Global Warming Cooling.

Freedom can be lost as surely tax by tax, regulation by regulation, as it can be bullet by bullet, missile by missile. anon

re: #63 stuiec

I'm taking a long position in my shorts.

Yer doin' what in your shorts?!?!?

You braggin' or askin' to be excused?

/Heh

no 6 mil for me. up at 4 tomorrow.

Post unrelated:

The lions in their dens, tremble at his approach - especially after too many burritos.

re: #116 cliffster

ok, now CNBC is talking about the Asia market carnage. Oops, back over to some doltish looking British tool. "Hang Seng H-Shares down by 9.7% in the first 25 seconds of trading, back to you, boring brit"

The British stuff is important, too, though.

re: #113 spidly

they have all these recommendations to buy these energy companies that look like they suck balls.

Nothing worse than a ball-sucking energy company...

Good taste and humor are a contradiction in terms, like a chaste whore.
--Malcolm Muggridge

re: #93 spidly

did you read his numbers from 2004? 3 or 4 points outside the margin of error

Zogby’s final ’04 results, Bush 49.8%/Kerry 48.6%-

election results Bush 50.8%/Kerry 48.4%

He was closer to the actual result than any other poll firm- period.

I wager another -350 DJIA tomorrow

So people are posting random stuff, hoping to be the milestone 6 millionth poster?

Bitchin'!

re: #74 zombie

Repost from the previous dead thread (ignore if you've already seen it):

------

Anybody here ever take psychology courses in college?

I'm trying track down the specifics of an famous experiment done in the '50s, but I don't know the name of the experimenters or the college where it happened or anything else. I do vividly remember reading about it, and can even remember the photos. I'm going to describe it here in the hope that somebody else recognizes the experiment and can give me any clue as to the who and where and why and when.

This was the experiment:

An advertisement was placed around campus asking for student volunteers to participate in a vision test. 20 or so students signed up.

Before the experiment begins, the students are told they have to fill out questionnaires. One of the students is brought to a room and given a questionnaire, and he is led to believe all the other volunteers are also filling out the same questionnaire in other rooms. In fact, the other 19 are brought into a lecture hall and informed that the experiment is not a vision experiment at all, but a psychology experiment. They are told, without explaining why, to purposely give the wrong answer to every question in the vision test. All agree to do so.

Then all 20 students are brought into the experiment center. The "test" begins. The experimenters display on the screen two horizontal lines, one above the other. The bottom line is very obviously slightly longer than the top line. The experimenters ask everyone to say out loud which line is longer. 19 of the volunteers, as instructed, lie and say "The top line." The remaining volunteer, who, unbeknownst to him, is the actual subject of the test, says (accurately) "The bottom line."

Then they show another pair of lines. Once again, the 19 volunteers give the wrong answer, and the subject gives the right answer. But this time he's starting to look visibly unconfortable.

A third pair of lines goes up, and this time, in the face of 19 opposing answers, he really, really squints at the screen, shakes his head, says (correctly) "The top line -- I think."

He's starting to crack.

On and on the rounds go. And I'm sure by now you can guess where this is headed. Eventually, the test subject starts doubting his own eyes and giving the wrong answer -- first tentatively, then confidently. But he seems resigned.

At the end, they have successfully brainwashed the test subject to give the wrong answer every time, in complete contradiction to his own perceptions.

The experiment could never be repeated in the modern world, because by our standards it would be considered unethical. But it's considered a landmark experiment nonetheless.

My question is: Have you ever heard of this experiment before? I may have misremembered some details of it, but the gist is accurate. Do you have any suggestions, clues or guesses as to when or where it was held, or where you read about it, or who conducted it?

Thanks.

It sounds like something Milgram might have done in the early sixties at Yale.

re: #127 Equable

yep

re: #124 lummox

Humor involves two things, the lowest common denominator, and something nasty happening to someone else. Reason why we laugh? Thank the lord above it wasn't us.

re: #126 spidly

I wager another -350 DJIA tomorrow

How sad is it, that I hope you're right.

Asian markets worse than yesterday.

Comments: 5,999,666

I hope 6 million is a Sarah Palin quote, dog gone it.

re: #84 Inquisitive

I posted a link on this for you on last thread......Solomon Asche experiment from 1950's

Got it. Responded there. Thanks!

re: #74 zombie

Must I repost the answer?

Soloman Asch

Was probably in the Wiki page Killian Bundy posted, too.

Random stuff that some of us wish was being propagated today.

re: #125 Sharmuta

He was closer to the actual result than any other poll firm- period.

Late afternoon on Election Day--awfully late for a final call--Zogby predicted that Kerry would win Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and New Mexico (0 for 4!) and get at least 311 votes in the Electoral College, while Bush was assured of only 213. (The remaining 14 electoral votes were too close to call.)

There's no other way to say it: The Big Z's final polls were garbage. His final poll had Colorado too close to call; Bush won by 7 points. He had Florida by a tenth of a percentage point for Kerry and "trending Kerry"; Bush won by 5 points. Zogby had Bush winning North Carolina by 3; the president won John Edwards's home state by 13. Zogby had Bush leading Tennessee by 4; the president won by 14. Zogby called Virginia a "slight edge" for the GOP; Bush won by 8. In West Virginia, Zogby predicted a Bush win by 4; the president won by 13. And in the vital swing state of Wisconsin, Zogby had Kerry up by 6; the final margin was 1 point.

re: #134 Sharmuta

we shall see

Hey CNN is showing that Eurostan's markets are acting somewhat funky too.

re: #119 LeePro

Yer doin' what in your shorts?!?!?

You braggin' or askin' to be excused?

When you get in hot water and need a cool head the asset base can shrink leading to a short exposure.

re: #111 winston06

McCain needs to take the clip from tonight's debate where Barry hedges on Israel and then run that side by side with Barry's comments about Mrs Khalidi's dinner parties and the interesting discussions they have.

Folks, I just can't fathom that the American people will elect someone with so many unknowns and, of what is known, so many terrorist/islamist/radical connections.

re: #106 stuiec

But, but, but... they already answered you in that thread. Something about Asch and conformity.

I know. I had to step away from the computer fro 20 minutes. All caught up now.

re: #57 rancher

Prove it!

Edgar says so.

All joking aside, if Obama gets elected what happens to those of us who are Iraq vets, namely, severely wounded Iraq Vets ? Am I going to be the next generation's crazy Vietnam Vet who lost an arm and half a hand back in 'Nam? Are we going to get taken care of, or is it going to be "that's what you get for volunteering jackass"? I'm going to be royally pissed off if Obama gets elected and he cuts off my other arm by screwing Iraq and immediately pulling all the troops out. Talk about a "big thanks for nothing" if that happens.

re: #128 SurferDoc

It sounds like something Milgram might have done in the early sixties at Yale.

Didn't the Unabomber go through some kind of messed up psychology test and pretty much flip out over it back then?

He may have already been nuts by then, but it seems that this pushed him, too.

Did anyone else notice BO wanting to increase FOREIGN AID?

If the 2nd and 22nd amendments are left in tact, an Obama presidency might not be too bad. But I think whoever is president is getting into an impossible job the way the world is moving.

re: #125 Sharmuta

Very true. But he has since moved a bit left and started a bit of poll pushing. I think it is his Muslim thing. But I do agree that he has changed his published results for this election after his last midterm disastrous predictions.

re: #137 lummox

Random stuff that some of us wish was being propagated today.

Random response to random comment, posted randomly.

COMMENCE

re: #138 spidly

That was NOT based off his polling, but keep disregarding his polls. No skin off my nose.

Aargh! Solomon Asch!

re: #142 rednaxela

Folks, I just can't fathom that the American people will elect someone with so many unknowns and, of what is known, so many terrorist/islamist/radical connections.

He has a lot of known unknowns. But it's the unknown unknowns that worry me.

re: #147 LaMano

Did anyone else notice BO wanting to increase FOREIGN AID?

From the Chinese and Kuwaitis?

The mood in Tokyo is not so bad. Yes, it was a bad day, but I think most people feel this is all survivable.

re: #134 Sharmuta

I hope 6 million is a Sarah Palin quote, dog gone it.

Lipstik.

Psst....psssssssssssssssssssss.......pssssstssssst stts.

re: #70 Strike Hornet

could someone from Chicago please explain to me how in the hell William Ayers and Bernadette Dorhn receive a 100 Million Dollar grant to radicalize young school children? My God! What the hell are they thinking in that city?

Welcome my son, welcome to the Machine.

re: #136 itellu3times

Must I repost the answer?

Soloman Asch

Was probably in the Wiki page Killian Bundy posted, too.

Sorry -- I failed to refresh that thread before posting on this thread!

re: #142 rednaxela

The answer to that Israel question was a firm YES. If Iran attacks Israel, US military should get involved

re: #122 Cognito

The British stuff is important, too, though.

Not this goon.

re: #123 Edgar

Nothing worse than a ball-sucking energy company...

i didn't know they could generate power that way....... %-)

re: #151 Sharmuta

That was NOT based off his polling, but keep disregarding his polls. No skin off my nose.

There's no other way to say it: The Big Z's final polls were garbage. His final poll had Colorado too close to call; Bush won by 7 points. He had Florida by a tenth of a percentage point for Kerry and "trending Kerry"; Bush won by 5 points. Zogby had Bush winning North Carolina by 3; the president won John Edwards's home state by 13. Zogby had Bush leading Tennessee by 4; the president won by 14. Zogby called Virginia a "slight edge" for the GOP; Bush won by 8. In West Virginia, Zogby predicted a Bush win by 4; the president won by 13. And in the vital swing state of Wisconsin, Zogby had Kerry up by 6; the final margin was 1 point

re: #154 itellu3times

From the Chinese and Kuwaitis?

They're giving us foreign aid now? Cool

Speaking of Sarah Palin she was magnificent in Carson California the other day.

re: #163 spidly

I'm not discussing this with you anymore.

re: #159 zombie

Solomon.

Whatever.

Happy Trails.

re: #128 SurferDoc

It sounds like something Milgram might have done in the early sixties at Yale.

Said that on the last thread, or a student of his.

re: #146 Adina in Judea

Didn't the Unabomber go through some kind of messed up psychology test and pretty much flip out over it back then?

He may have already been nuts by then, but it seems that this pushed him, too.

MKULTRA

re: #165 Equable

she is terrific

re: #152 SurferDoc

Aargh! Solomon Asch!

the bastard son of Gunner Asch?

re: #164 Edgar

They're giving us foreign aid now? Cool

I wouldn't mind seeing the Iraqis pony up and start paying the bill with that neato overhead they have at the present time.

This is really funny, but NSFW- Sal from the "Howard Stern Show" goes to Harlem to ask people why they're supporting Obama, then asks if it's ok Obama chose Sarah Palin for his VP, etc.

Why are you voting for Obama?

re: #150 Equable

Random response to random comment, posted randomly.

COMMENCE

And what are you adding.... besides snark?

lol

re: #165 Equable

Hey- aren't you the poster with the Alfredo lasagna recipe?

Check out these 2 British comedians performing a skit as financial experts. They describe the current financial situation perfectly, including the ludicrous nature of the bailout.

At first, you wonder how they developed this spot-on bit so quickly, and got it on the air so soon. Then you learn that this video was uploaded back in February, and that the skit was first aired in Britain over a year ago.

That's right, folks, even comedians could see this crisis coming, but our Congress couldn't.

This is a Canadian election campaign ad (by the Conservatives)

LOL

Asch me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.

re: #175 pat

lol

It would be funny if an "lol" was 6 mil.

re: #170 winston06

Man she just brought an electricity with her that warmed the place in spite of the shite weather.

re: #160 winston06

The answer to that Israel question was a firm YES. If Iran attacks Israel, US military should get involved

If the deadly spread of reality TV shows continues unabated, the US military should get involved, too.

re: #176 Sharmuta

how far r we from the 6,000,000th comment?

re: #176 Sharmuta

Yes, that would be me.

re: #182 Edgar

amen

re: #183 winston06

how far r we from the 6,000,000th comment?

5,999,720 ish comments and counting.

re: #171 redc1c4

the bastard son of Gunner Asch?

Evil Twin

re: #180 Sharmuta

lol

*crosses fingers as I abuse Charles' bandwidth*

re: #164 Edgar

The other thing Barry said tonight was that we need to make sure the Chinese have sufficient energy. And McCain didn't call him on it...

re: #172 Equable

I wouldn't mind seeing the Iraqis pony up and start paying the bill with that neato overhead they have at the present time.

Maybe Iraq could become a "state sponsor" of the US Marines?

re: #186 Sharmuta

5,999,720 ish comments and counting.

Where do you see this number?

Who's real Obama?

re: #184 Equable

You should submit it to the cookbook!

[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]

Anyone have a link to the debunking of Palin being tied to those secessionists?

re: #158 rancher

Welcome my son, welcome to the Machine.

Knowing how to wright for grants is an art.

That is what is teched in higher ed.

re: #191 gmsc

Where do you see this number?

Left sidebar, under "statistics"

re: #194 TheMatrix31

google is your friend

re: #176 Sharmuta

Hey- aren't you the poster with the Alfredo lasagna recipe?

Sorry, forgot to put the code in the correct place.

Yeah that Alfredo lasagna recipe poster was me.

Holy bad grammar, batman!

I think Bush should call for an emergency global meeting, and call for the leaders of the 20 countries with the GDPs to visit Washington.

And there, in whatever fashion, they should hit the reset button. Maybe it's a simultaneous global rate cut. Maybe it's something else. But for heaven's sake, people need to coordinate, and quickly.

re: #197 winston06

google is your friend

or may be not any more :-)

re: #178 winston06

One reason why I have been paying so much to the U.S. election is that I had my mind made up for our election months before it was called. :)

/Staunch conservative here.

re: #180 Sharmuta

It would be funny if an "lol" was 6 mil.

or maybe ROTFLMFAO! %-)

re: #199 Cognito

what?

re: #189 rednaxela

The other thing Barry said tonight was that we need to make sure the Chinese have sufficient energy. And McCain didn't call him on it...

The Chinese will just used forced labor to pull cars through the streets and insulate houses during the cold winter.

re: #202 redc1c4

lol

re: #189 rednaxela

The other thing Barry said tonight was that we need to make sure the Chinese have sufficient energy. And McCain didn't call him on it...

Some of his stream-of-thought answers tonight were so rambling, it'd be impossible to catch everything. Half of his answers were just blah, blah, blah

re: #202 redc1c4

or maybe ROTFLMFAO! %-)

Heh!

Are we going Snark hunting?

re: #191 gmsc

re: #186 Sharmuta

5,999,720 ish comments and counting.

Where do you see this number?

It's on the "Statistics" arrow on the left side.

re: #193 Sharmuta

You should submit it to the cookbook!

[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]

You know what I think I will! It ALWAYS gets rave reviews.

Let us fight for America ........and prevent Obama from winning

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But,
Under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,
Until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

- Norman Thomas (US Socialist Presidential Candidate)

***

Tomorrow we fight on ......

Good Night Lizards

Nikkei Closes Down 9.4% After Sharp U.S. Sell-Off
TOKYO (Nikkei)--Tokyo stocks plunged Wednesday, with the benchmark Nikkei Stock Average closing down 9.38% at 9,203.32, the lowest level since June 30, 2003.

The sharp sell-off followed a steep drop in U.S. stocks the previous day, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average falling 508 points amid continued financial crisis.

Investors stood on the sidelines on growing concerns over corporate earnings and a worsening economy. The dollar also weakened to below 100 yen at one point, feeding the bearish sentiment.

International blue chips led the decline, with shares of Toyota Motor Corp. (7203) down more than 11%.

re: #199 Cognito

I think Bush should call for an emergency global meeting, and call for the leaders of the 20 countries with the GDPs to visit Washington.

And there, in whatever fashion, they should hit the reset button. Maybe it's a simultaneous global rate cut. Maybe it's something else. But for heaven's sake, people need to coordinate, and quickly.

Yeah, someone pressed the "Hibernate" button by accident. Idiot.

re: #210 Equable

You know what I think I will! It ALWAYS gets rave reviews.

I would love for you to, because I'd love to try my hand at that dish.

Barry on China in tonight's debate:

"We've got to make sure that we're giving them the energy that they need or helping them to create the energy that they need."

re: #201 BlueCanuck

Although I am not impressed by how poor PM Harper performed in those debates. Granted, he was cornered by the vicious Commies but man he could be way better.

re: #203 winston06

what?

What what?

re: #217 Cognito

i dunno

re: #206 cliffster

Half of his answers were just blah, blah, blah

Record them and play them backwards for the secret message.

re: #197 winston06

google is your friend

Gee, why didn't I think of that?!

re: #199 Cognito

Not a bad idea actually, I'm sure something like that is in the works, for PR purposes if nothing else.

re: #218 winston06

i dunno

What?

Tel Aviv market up almost 5%

re: #203 winston06

what?

don't mind him: he's a crackhead.

halb halb halb

re: #213 Edgar

Yeah, someone pressed the "Hibernate" button by accident. Idiot.

Is the 'idiot' directed at me? Because the 'reset button' line was tongue in cheek; I do think a coordinated response is called for, though.

re: #216 winston06

Yeah, I found it a bit of a snoozer. But think about it this way he's outnumbered four to one by leftists and socialists. We only have one right wing party in Canada, and four shades of left.

re: #219 Edgar

Hussein O often looked like a high school bully. Like he was going to punch McCain when he didnt have his teleprompter

Russia's market is down 14% today.

Wait, Russia has a market?

re: #207 Sharmuta

Heh!

GMTA is also a strong candidate.....

re: #119 LeePro

At my age, who can tell?

re: #224 redc1c4

yes sir

google is your friend

It's my sworn enemy.

re: #229 Equable

run by ex-KGB

re: #202 redc1c4

FIRST!

re: #228 winston06

Hussein O often looked like a high school bully. Like he was going to punch McCain when he didnt have his teleprompter

I thought he looked like a bully when he disregarded the agreed upon rules.

re: #226 Cognito

Is the 'idiot' directed at me?

No.

re: #233 Edgar

I prefer to yahoo. :)

re: #233 Edgar

I agree. But their search engine is really our friend :-P

re: #238 BlueCanuck

weaker

re: #233 Edgar

It's my sworn enemy.

You guys need email goggles

The shift in Quebec support towards the Bloc depresses me. The Quebecois will always expect state largesse and big government.

re: #224 redc1c4

Right. Funny how you disappeared from the WSJ discussion, by the way.

re: #214 Sharmuta

re: #214 Sharmuta

Cool I'll register and post it for you.

re: #199 Cognito

I think Bush should call for an emergency global meeting, and call for the leaders of the 20 countries with the GDPs to visit Washington.

And there, in whatever fashion, they should hit the reset button. Maybe it's a simultaneous global rate cut. Maybe it's something else. But for heaven's sake, people need to coordinate, and quickly.

How racist of you.

/

re: #242 Moe Katz

They are socialists

re: #228 winston06

Hussein O often looked like a high school bully. Like he was going to punch McCain when he didnt have his teleprompter

McCain can probably hold his own. Then again, Obama might practice Capoeira.

How Much More 'Change' Do You Think You Can Take?

TO ALL MY FRIENDS....LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE...
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high.
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon.
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) The DOW JONES hit a record high -- 14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars,taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...

But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes -- we got 'CHANGE' all right.
In the PAST YEAR:

1) Consumer confidence has plummeted ;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) As I write, THE DOW is probing another low ~ $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!

YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT! ....

REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!

JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?

re: #244 Equable

Just email it to Reine- you should be able to find her email there. She's the lady spearheading the cookbook.

re: #234 winston06

run by ex-KGB

There is no ex-KGB.

In Soviet Russia, KGB has ex-YOU.

Oops. Just realized that should've said, 'largest GDPs.'

re: #247 Edgar

I don't like how this Hussein O is so full of himself. There's a saying in Persian language for it: As if the guy was ejected from the elephant's bottom.

I dont know if it makes any sense but it does to me ;-)

re: #246 winston06

They are socialists

Some of them. The rest are Catholic statist conservatives. But they have a lot in common.

re: #249 Sharmuta

Just email it to Reine- you should be able to find her email there. She's the lady spearheading the cookbook.

Yeah- Reine's email is on the right:

[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]

re: #250 Equable

yeah

re: #236 Sharmuta

Since when have the rules that would apply to any other candidate applied to Obama? Rules are for bitter clingers, not transformational political leaders.

Nite all. As usual, I retreat to reading real material. (other than the links which I love.)
And Shar. That was funny. LOL

re: #239 winston06

I agree. But their search engine is really our friend :-P

I just search the web manually. Don't need one of these so-called "Search Engines" to do it for me.

re: #223 LaMano

Tel Aviv market up almost 5%

Bank of Israel cut its benchmark interest rate by half a point to 3.75% to help out.

Looks like it worked.

re: #253 Moe Katz

I think they need to get over it

re: #258 Edgar

smart... LOL

re: #252 winston06

I don't like how this Hussein O is so full of himself. There's a saying in Persian language for it: As if the guy was ejected from the elephant's bottom.

I dont know if it makes any sense but it does to me ;-)

Maybe he could be re-inserted, then?

re: #254 Sharmuta

That reminds me, I have to polish my recipe and get it into her for the book.

/do that on Friday afternoon.

re: #243 Cognito

Right. Funny how you disappeared from the WSJ discussion, by the way.

i went to bed, so i could get up and do stuff during the day time. besides, how many times do you want me to prove you don't know WTF you're talking about?

if you're only doing it because you're a masochist, i'm going to have to insist you pay for the privilege of me pointing out your cluelessness. cash in advance.

re: #252 winston06

I don't like how this Hussein O is so full of himself. There's a saying in Persian language for it: As if the guy was ejected from the elephant's bottom.

Ahma - ejected, dina - elephant, jad - bottom. OK.