Go get him Mac!

Great ad, saw it this morning.

Good to see that John McCain is finally putting on Ayers.

/sorry to step on your lines, buzzsawmonkey

time to start nailing him on his socialist connections too.

In case no one saw it from the last thread.
I emailed this to the GOP and McCain.
Faxed it to all his offices and called and told them about it too!

Ok I either have a great idea or I am a total moron:

In the next debate, when Obama starts with his McCain=Bushs meme, I think that McCain should turn to him and say:

Senator Obama you continually try to tie me to the Presidents policies and are saying that I am guilty by association. In what way is that any different than your association with Bill Ayers, a domestic terrorist who bombed the Pentagon and with whom you have worked with over the years?
Personally, if I had a choice between associating with the POTUS and an unrepentant domestic terrorist, I would choose the President!

About time they at least brought it up!

I understand this ad is solely a web-ad at this point.

Why doesn't the campaign put it on TV everywhere it can?

Hit hard Mc and please expose the six degrees of the Obama's and Ayers/Dohrn connection.

TW:

idea works for me

Own it Obama.

Can you imagine what his cabinet would look like? Given all of his associations it could be real ugly. maybe then people will begin to wake up...I won't be holding my breath, however.

re: #8 rudi

I understand this ad is solely a web-ad at this point.

Why doesn't the campaign put it on TV everywhere it can?

do you seriously think that any station would run it?

re: #8 rudi

I understand this ad is solely a web-ad at this point.

Why doesn't the campaign put it on TV everywhere it can?

An ad this long would be expensive to put on tv. But this gives me hope we'll see some shorter ads on tv soon.

An ad about Black Theology and Obama might be helpful.

Great ad! Hit them, keep hitting them, dammit.
And what is this BS about staying away from Rev. Wright?
That is not what I am paying you to do, Johnny Mac. Nothing is off limits!
Hey, pal, in some places you are down in double digits, you can't afford your lofty principles any more. You want this? Show some fight.

re: #2 CapeCoddah

Great ad, saw it this morning.

Which media market?

In dallas, I am seeing nothing but Obama ads.

Finally.

Btw, fucking Charlie Gibson wasn't wearing his super condescending glasses when he interviewed Barry. I wonder why. Asswipe.

McCain might have the timing down right on this...wait until now to really hammer this home instead of springing it in June and giving everyone a chance to forget about it.

Wow, that's gonna sting. "Too risky for America" - that's a fact. I'd drive that phrase day and night till Nov 4.

re: #17 DeafDog

Which media market?

In dallas, I am seeing nothing but Obama ads.

I saw it on FNC, national this morning.

re: #6 Typicalwhitey

In case no one saw it from the last thread.
I emailed this to the GOP and McCain.
Faxed it to all his offices and called and told them about it too!

Ok I either have a great idea or I am a total moron:

UPDING

Also,,, I turn the "four more years of Bush" argument into "well, I don;'t want 4 more years of Carter'

he needs to say this stuff in the debates on national television, not in web-ads only his supporters see

The problem with an internet ad like this is that it is pretty much preaching to the choir. I know I never watch any Obama ads online.

I think this ad is great. It gives us a short video link to email and spread around. But more importantly- it gives us a sign that Mac is going to fight for this.

Keep going MacDaddy! Fight for us and we'll fight for you!

As I said in the prior thread...McCain will bring this up in the final debate. The format was not condusive to this type of argument/discussion. Mcain seemed very knowledgeable about Ayers on Hannity and mentioned ACORN, etc. I believe that the McCain campaign is forcing this down the media's throat so Sheiffer HAS to ask about it at the debate...then...BLAMMO! Johnny goes after him. I just hope he is schooled as to what Obslama will say in return...

re: #19 dolfan

McCain might have the timing down right on this...wait until now to really hammer this home instead of springing it in June and giving everyone a chance to forget about it.

he put them in his coat pocket that he's wearing tonight for the McCain interview hit piece

Great ad. Email to everyone you know. Got to get this out to people.

re: #24 Ford_Prefect

The problem with an internet ad like this is that it is pretty much preaching to the choir. I know I never watch any Obama ads online.

I think he's trying to signal to the base that he's going to keep the pressure on which was exactly what we were all bitching about just yesterday.

I think its about time we stop screwing around and help McCain nail the jello to the wall.

Great ad.

Two problems.

1 - I have not seen any of McCain's ads on television. Is he actually running them?...(maybe it's because I live in California?)

2 - When I mention the Ayers/Obama connection to people they just roll their eyes. Same thing when I bring up Rev. Wright, people just don't seem to care...(perhaps also because I live in California?)

re: #29 Sharmuta

I think he's trying to signal to the base that he's going to keep the pressure on which was exactly what we were all bitching about just yesterday.

But hasn't he brought this up in previous internet ads? Until he says it himself, like Palin has, I don't know that this sort of thing really helps get new votes.

Good factual ad although that female announcer is starting to annoy me a little...

Howls of racism forthcoming.

That's a good start, but I agree, it needs to be on television in every swing state. And it needs to be followed up with all-day plastering of the airwaves with clips from Reverend Wright's speeches, and Rashid Khalidi. And the "failure of empathy" quote should be on posters all over lower Manhattan and across the street from every FDNY firehouse. An internet ad helps not at all.

re: #31 Ringo the Gringo

I'm in a contested state leaning 0bama, and we have McCain ads.

re: #29 Sharmuta

I think he's trying to signal to the base that he's going to keep the pressure on which was exactly what we were all bitching about just yesterday.

We need more than signals to the base.

This ad needs to be on TV in every battleground state and NOW!

re: #26 cblesz

I just hope he is schooled as to what Obslama will say in return

OBAMA "That happened a long time ago when I was only 8 years old"

McCain "OJ Simpson cut off his wifes head when my daughert was only (fill in the_ ) years old. Do you think I should have my daughter go to his house to kick off her political carreer?"

re: #31 Ringo the Gringo

Great ad.

Two problems.

1 - I have not seen any of McCain's ads on television. Is he actually running them?...(maybe it's because I live in California?)

2 - When I mention the Ayers/Obama connection to people they just roll their eyes. Same thing when I bring up Rev. Wright, people just don't seem to care...(perhaps also because I live in California?)

Hey. That's the REPUBLIC of California to you, sir!

re: #36 Sharmuta

I'm in a contested state leaning 0bama, and we have McCain ads.

Good to hear. I only see these ads on FoxNews or on YouTube.

re: #24 Ford_Prefect

The problem with an internet ad like this is that it is pretty much preaching to the choir. I know I never watch any Obama ads online.

email it to everyone you know. I don't care if I piss off some of my friends, I send out everything. Some minds have been changed and diehard dems are voting for McCain/Palin. Some are just too stupid, but I send it anyway. One girl said she wanted to vote for Hillary but couldn't. So I emailed her a list of PUMA sites and articles about how barrack HUSSEIN obama's dirty tricks is the reason she is not able to vote for Hillary. Hope this works. Haven't heard back from her yet. Sent her the hillary forum last night.

re: #9 marge45b

Hit hard Mc and please expose the six degrees of the Obama's and Ayers/Dohrn connection.

No, only one degree of separation.

re: #19 dolfan

McCain might have the timing down right on this...wait until now to really hammer this home instead of springing it in June and giving everyone a chance to forget about it.

And Obama challenged him to man up - O.k., at the debate sucka. Tell us about Ayers, Wright, Khalidi, Indonesia, ACORN, Islamic Day.

There is a demographic segment that is more id-dominated. There is another segment that is wholly distracted by long hours of work and family and still trusting of network, MSM news. There is yet another segment of cynical "turnoffs" whose cynicism draws an equivalence between the two parties and uses that as an excuse not to vote.

All three have one thing in common; a short attention span.

This is nuke #2. Nuke #1 was Palin. I'm betting there is another in the launch tube in two weeks.

Follow up with Rezko, Wright and Flager please. It is FORCING the media to cover it...

re: #37 rudi

We need more than signals to the base.

This ad needs to be on TV in every battleground state and NOW!

And they'd have no money after that for any other ads with weeks to go. I'm guessing we'll see a shorter ad on this shortly, but an ad this long is too expensive for tv in every market, so it needs a grassroots effort. Email it out, put it on your blog- help McCain by keeping his ad costs low.

re: #38 sattv4u2

I just hope he is schooled as to what Obslama will say in return

OBAMA "That happened a long time ago when I was only 8 years old"

McCain "OJ Simpson cut off his wifes head when my daughert was only (fill in the_ ) years old. Do you think I should have my daughter go to his house to kick off her political carreer?"

So you're implying that all black people go around cutting off people's heads? Racist!

/anticipating the MSM response to that one

I have a question: Do these ads actually run on TV? Or are they just online to entertain pre-existing McCain supporters?

I, admittedly, rarely watch TV, but I have never seen a McCain ad actually being broadcast.

What do Barrack Obama and Osama bin Laden have in common?
They both have friends that have bombed the pentagon.

/stolen from an earlier thread but still my favorite

re: #48 zombie

This is a web ad.

Obama's father was a socialist and his mother was a Communist. The Acorn doesn't fall far from the tree does it.

re: #48 zombie

I have a question: Do these ads actually run on TV? Or are they just online to entertain pre-existing McCain supporters?

I, admittedly, rarely watch TV, but I have never seen a McCain ad actually being broadcast.

You're in CA - McCain won't waste ad money here.

Maybe the gloves are starting to come off. I'm not holding my breath but McCain might be showing some fight.

Maybe, just maybe we see an add with ol' rev's face in it in a week.

re: #26 cblesz

As I said in the prior thread...McCain will bring this up in the final debate.

Well, I sure hope it works. Information like this needs a certain amount of time to percolate among voters. You can't just tell them while they're on their way to the polls, "hey, Obama's friend is a terrorist!", and expect it to change their decision. I think McCain waited much longer than he should have to play this up. I only hope it wasn't too long.

slightly OT: Pajamas Media had a writer reporting on the media covering Palin. Apparently they all tune out of her speech after the Ayers line, if no one else is mentioned. If she ever does mention anyone else, they'll have to cover it.

re: #17 DeafDog

Which media market?

In dallas, I am seeing nothing but Obama ads.

Saw it on HotAir, and posted it on the overnight thread this morning. Have NOT seen it on TV.

re: #48 zombie

I have a question: Do these ads actually run on TV? Or are they just online to entertain pre-existing McCain supporters?

I, admittedly, rarely watch TV, but I have never seen a McCain ad actually being broadcast.

The St. Louis area runs both BHO and McCain ads...

The One givng speech and his sound keeps going out and he is pissed at his sound man .......... this guy is gonna go off the deep end soon ....... he is not a nice man ..... I don't care what Oprah says .....

re: #53 Jetpilot1101

Maybe, just maybe we see an add with ol' rev's face in it in a week.

If we do, it will probably be from a 527 and not show McCain at all.

re: #54 Occasional Reader

My previous thinking was that McCain wouldn't talk about Obama's connections with terrorists and radical hate groups during the debates, because he'd prefer to have surrogates do it through TV ads.

But I'm beginning to realize that the entire media establishment is so in the tank for Obama that they would never permit McCain to run any anti-Obama ad that could actually be successful.

re: #31 Ringo the Gringo

1 - I have not seen any of McCain's ads on television. Is he actually running them?...(maybe it's because I live in California?)

re: #36 Sharmuta

I'm in a contested state leaning 0bama, and we have McCain ads.

But do you see THESE incisive McCain ads (like the ones featured on LGF) or more wishy-washy "vote for me" ads?

re: #46 Sharmuta

And they'd have no money after that for any other ads with weeks to go. I'm guessing we'll see a shorter ad on this shortly, but an ad this long is too expensive for tv in every market, so it needs a grassroots effort. Email it out, put it on your blog- help McCain by keeping his ad costs low.

What I do is put a link to the LGF reference. In this particular case, the link is littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31521_New_McCain_ Ad-_Ayers

Two birds with one stone if the recipient is at all curious, and I'm not the least bit reserved about crediting Charles -- his links have been consistently solid.

re: #17 DeafDog

In dallas, I am seeing nothing but Obama ads.

Why? Is Texas in play? Or Oklahoma?

Fox & Friends did a segment about the ad this morning, followed by an interview with John Murtagh. Obama may have only been 8 when Bill Ayers (just somebody he knows from his neighborhood) was bombing, but John Murtagh was only 9 when they bombed his family's house.

re: #50 Sharmuta

This is a web ad.

Grrrrr! Then it's pointless!

re: #51 saltmarsh

Obama's father was a socialist and his mother was a Communist. The Acorn doesn't fall far from the tree does it.

Incorrect. Obama's father has written in his own words that he supports 100 percent taxation. What type of socialism is that, pray tell? He was a Marxist.

And let's make the connection to the Dems role in this financial debacle: Looked at my 401k today- thank you democrats for cleaning out my retirement account!

How can people not learn anything from terrorism? One would think that even a whiff of Ayers would be enough to spurn Obama, but I guess not.

re: #8 rudi

I understand this ad is solely a web-ad at this point.

Why doesn't the campaign put it on TV everywhere it can?

By the time Fox references it a million times with video and then other stations have to show parts of it to report on it, it WILL be everywhere and the McCain people will have free TV advertising.......works for me!

re: #54 Occasional Reader

Well, I sure hope it works. Information like this needs a certain amount of time to percolate among voters. You can't just tell them while they're on their way to the polls, "hey, Obama's friend is a terrorist!", and expect it to change their decision. I think McCain waited much longer than he should have to play this up. I only hope it wasn't too long.

Only problem is that it gives the dope some time to come up with some bullshit response and have it memorized...

re: #48 zombie

I have a question: Do these ads actually run on TV? Or are they just online to entertain pre-existing McCain supporters?

I, admittedly, rarely watch TV, but I have never seen a McCain ad actually being broadcast.

In NJ, the Ad about Obama talking about military bombing villages in Afghanistan is on about once an hour.

re: #48 zombie

I have a question: Do these ads actually run on TV? Or are they just online to entertain pre-existing McCain supporters?

I, admittedly, rarely watch TV, but I have never seen a McCain ad actually being broadcast.

And why would the McCain campaign expend resources in the bay area?

Over 80,000 views and plenty of anti-McCain comments. For all their defending, they can't deny it's hit a nerve.

re: #9 marge45b

Hit hard Mc and please expose the six degrees of the Obama's and Ayers/Dohrn connection.

Six degree's? I demand a recount!

re: #61 zombie

I've seen McCain ads in Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. They are useless, wimpy ads that make no point other than "Obama will raise your taxes! He voted to raise taxes 94 times! He's a big tax-raiser, he is!" Total waste of funds.

It's a good advertisement. I'm not sure people are listening at this point, though.

I think McCain needs to focus on drawing very simple, almost kindergarten-level connections between the Democratic party -- including Barack Obama -- and the economic collapse that's threatening to swallow us whole.

My opinion, anyway.

I approve this message.

re: #47 Last Mohican

OBAMA "That happened a long time ago when I was only 8 years old"

McCain "Charles Manson ochestrated the Tate/ LoBianco killings when my daughter was only (fill in the_ ) years old. Do you think I should have my daughter go to his house to kick off her political carreer?"

//I'm always ready for any contingency!

re: #57 scottishbuzzsaw

The St. Louis area runs both BHO and McCain ads...

What kind of McCain ads? When you see them, do you go, "Yeah! That's the kind of ad we need to see from you, John!" Or do you go, "Eh, another boring ad"?

re: #61 zombie

I don't watch much tv- hardly any really. I saw one after both the VP debate and Tuesday's debate. Other than that I couldn't tell you what ads are running.

McCain's best moment, IMO, during the second debate was when he mentioned that Obamba promised a middle class tax cut when he was running for the state senate...and then never tried to implement his promise.

Bambi had a mildly alarmed look when Mac made the point, but Mac never pressed it.

Bambi is winning now because his shtick is to promise the world to 95% of the voters - free healthcare and a tax cut! The only ones who will lose are the evil rich people.

The past is the best predictor for the future. Folks need to understand that once he's elected, all of the promises will be forgotten. We will see an immediate return of Community Organizer Bambi.

re: #65 zombie

Grrrrr! Then it's pointless!

I don't think so, it is in the same format as the ad against Obama re: military and cutting funding for the military (filmstrip, same woman's voice, references).

I would not be surprised to see it in rotation.

re: #62 jwb7605

What I do is put a link to the LGF reference. In this particular case, the link is littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31521_N ew_McCain_Ad-_Ayers

Two birds with one stone if the recipient is at all curious, and I'm not the least bit reserved about crediting Charles -- his links have been consistently solid.

That's awesome!

re: #67 IgofAntioch

And let's make the connection to the Dems role in this financial debacle: Looked at my 401k today- thank you democrats for cleaning out my retirement account!

Don't worry, be happy, the money was given to those "in need", you capitalist pig! /

re: #66 rawmuse

Incorrect. Obama's father has written in his own words that he supports 100 percent taxation. What type of socialism is that, pray tell? He was a Marxist.

100% taxation? OK, I'll stay home and let others work.

/I'll probably get a check from the government for that.

re: #70 cblesz

Only problem is that it gives the dope some time to come up with some bullshit response and have it memorized...

That's okay. If Obama is talking about Ayers and Wright in the final weeks of the campaign, even if it's spin, then he's on defense and we win!

re: #72 Son of the Black Dog

And why would the McCain campaign expend resources in the bay area?

Don't count California out quite yet.

I realize it's a low priority, but anything is possible.

re: #76 Cognito

It's a good advertisement. I'm not sure people are listening at this point, though.

I think McCain needs to focus on drawing very simple, almost kindergarten-level connections between the Democratic party -- including Barack Obama -- and the economic collapse that's threatening to swallow us whole.

My opinion, anyway.

Yep. And the MSM will undermone him completely. WSJ is reporting that Indiana is leaning Obama over this. People will not care about Ayers if they're savings is gone.

re: #61 zombie

But do you see THESE incisive McCain ads (like the ones featured on LGF) or more wishy-washy "vote for me" ads?

I'm seeing McCain ads that go after BHO.

re: #79 zombie

What kind of McCain ads? When you see them, do you go, "Yeah! That's the kind of ad we need to see from you, John!" Or do you go, "Eh, another boring ad"?

Zombie, I've stayed away from TV for the past few days for the sake of my BP, but I recall the good McCain ads I first saw linked here at LGF were soon playing on TV...

At JohnMcCain.com it is referred to as "New TV Ad"

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]

re: #60 Last Mohican

My previous thinking was that McCain wouldn't talk about Obama's connections with terrorists and radical hate groups during the debates, because he'd prefer to have surrogates do it through TV ads.

But I'm beginning to realize that the entire media establishment is so in the tank for Obama that they would never permit McCain to run any anti-Obama ad that could actually be successful.

In Missouri, State prosecutors will file suite to have it removed. They have a monopoly on the truth you see.

THAT'S the future for all of us if the DNC gains complete control.

re: #63 arethusa

I think they must be national ad buys.

re: #65 zombie

Grrrrr! Then it's pointless!

I don't think so. In order to keep ad spending low, both campaigns are putting out web ads knowing there will be grassroots efforts to spread it around.

I think we'll be seeing a shorter version on tv soon.

re: #87 zombie

Don't count California out quite yet.

I realize it's a low priority, but anything is possible.

Whatchasmok'in there, Your Undeadness?

re: #87 zombie

Don't count California out quite yet.

I realize it's a low priority, but anything is possible.

California is as blue as can be and ACORN will register all the illegals who will vote for the O.

re: #75 Last Mohican

I've seen McCain ads in Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. They are useless, wimpy ads that make no point other than "Obama will raise your taxes! He voted to raise taxes 94 times! He's a big tax-raiser, he is!" Total waste of funds.

That's what I feared.

Squandering money to run feeble, limp ads.

Arrgghhh!

re: #51 saltmarsh

Obama's father was a socialist and his mother was a Communist. The Acorn doesn't fall far from the tree does it.

Ya....and the tree had root rot.....and not a lot of branches but a lot of saplings

I hate the VO when she says 'too risky for America'. She sounds too over-the-top. It makes it sound cheesy and it's too bad it's at the end of the ad.

Otherwise it's excellent. Very well-produced.

Oh, guys, this is good. Via the Corner:

30-Y.O. Unsolved SF Murders Reopen

In the early '70s, some of of the group led by Bernadine Dorhn escaped to the west coast. Dohrn was on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list. J. Edgar Hoover called her "the most dangerous woman in America."

For a time, according to law enforcement sources, Dohrn and her group lived in the Bay Area on a houseboat in Sausalito. Testimony before a federal grand jury in 1970 allegedly linked Dohrn to a February bombing attack of the Berkeley police department in which two officers were injured. And now, 30 years later, law enforcement sources tell KRON 4 News they believe Dohrn and members of the Weather Underground may have been responsible for the bombing of Park Police Station in San Francisco three days later, a bombing that killed officer Brian McDonnell. But police never had the evidence to prove it.

The case was reopened three years ago, so no one can claim it's politically motivated. I smell a sequel to "Ayers."

re: #87 zombie

Don't count California out quite yet.

I realize it's a low priority, but anything is possible.

My (USMC wife) daughter-in-law said the exact same thing.
I posted that a couple months ago, then blew the idea off.
Any reasons you might have for such wild fantasies of optimism?

McCain. Say it to his face. Please. Say it to his face at the next debate.
Fight John, fight, stand up and fight.

re: #87 zombie

Don't count California out quite yet.

I realize it's a low priority, but anything is possible.

What? Do you know anything about this communist state and its citizens?

there are just too many unsavory connections to obama which he can't wave away anymore w/ his weak excuses.
it is impossible that he knew nothing abt. any of these people or events.
he is a liar.

re: #31 Ringo the Gringo

Great ad.

Two problems.

1 - I have not seen any of McCain's ads on television. Is he actually running them?...(maybe it's because I live in California?)

2 - When I mention the Ayers/Obama connection to people they just roll their eyes. Same thing when I bring up Rev. Wright, people just don't seem to care...(perhaps also because I live in California?)

It's because we live in California.

Though I do find it interesting that Obama's campaign is running ad after ad in California, attacking McCain and touting his "moderate" health care and tax plans. A total waste of money.

re: #97 zombie

That's what I feared.

Squandering money to run feeble, limp ads.

Arrgghhh!

Obama: Dangerous

Not that wimpy, in heavy rotation near Philadelphia/South Jersey.

On the subject of ads, I find it humorous that Obama runs ads on Fox during Oreilly's show. I thought Oreilly's audience was comprised entirely of rabid, right wing, frothing at the mouth partisans.

re: #97 zombie

That's what I feared.

Squandering money to run feeble, limp ads.

Arrgghhh!

McCain will McNice himself to a 40% share in november. He just can't point to Franks and his colleague Dodd. He'd rather lose the election than lose his friend. Putz

re: #103 cblesz

What? Do you know anything about this communist state and its citizens?

He/She/It lives there...

re: #90 scottishbuzzsaw

Zombie, I've stayed away from TV for the past few days for the sake of my BP, but I recall the good McCain ads I first saw linked here at LGF were soon playing on TV...

Well, that's somewhat encouraging!

One of Ayer's victims speaks out.

re: #63 arethusa

Why? Is Texas in play? Or Oklahoma?

LOL, shhhhh.

Those TX TV stations need ad revenue just like everybody else.

re: #100 doppelganglander

I attended that hearing, proud to say.

re: #109 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

He/She/It lives there...

So do I. There is no way in hell Mccain gets more than 35% of the vote. Period. The only good thing about CA is the weather.

Here's proof of Guilt by Participation (Obama was appointed by Ayers to doll out $ 50 mm) - not Association, though that's true, as well.

That's the real/best message here, and it cuts right through the "guilt by association is hollow" meme pushed by the O's lemmings who are striving to remain in their "ignorant bliss", pushed originally by Lenin.

Mac - re-load, and keep on firing the truth at the Marxists!

re: #90 scottishbuzzsaw

Zombie, I've stayed away from TV for the past few days for the sake of my BP, but I recall the good McCain ads I first saw linked here at LGF were soon playing on TV...

Perhaps in states that are closer he's showing the tough ads, and states where he's behind but still trying he's playing the nice guy ads?

re: #111 rawmuse

Could somebody please buy that man a microphone?

Well, I don't live in California, but I was in San Francisco last year for leisure. While riding a cable car I spotted a Carter-Mondale sign in the window of a house. Carter-Mondale!

Doesn't seem to be a wise choice to buy ads there if in fact McCain is doing so.

re: #111 rawmuse
I saw the interview he gave with Greta earlier. He said the bombs went off at the front and back doors of his home. He was 9 years old. If you set bombs off at the front and back exit doors of a home what are you hoping to accompish? In the middle of the night? When children are in bed sleeping.

Disgusting just doesn't cover it.

re: #68 Joan Not of Arc

How can people not learn anything from terrorism? One would think that even a whiff of Ayers would be enough to spurn Obama, but I guess not.

I've actually run across people who think that, because Ayers is now a professor of education, he's no longer radical.

I'm working on putting together some excerpts from articles he's written specifically about education to demonstrate what a dangerous radical he is. I hate people who act as if the fundamentals of literacy and numeracy are less important than political consciousness.

Looks like Indianapolis has managed to register 105% of its voting age population!

What a wonderful time we live in!

re: #116 Sharmuta

Perhaps in states that are closer he's showing the tough ads, and states where he's behind but still trying he's playing the nice guy ads?

Obama: Dangerous

Sorry for repeating, but this seems to be on at least once an hour during Prime time when I watch in Philly, NJ area (ABC, CBS, NBC)

Sarah & McCain live on Fox

This election is now a referendum on socialism. GWB laid the groundwork with the bailout. President Obama would finish the job, turn the US into a socialist country. In his first 4 years he would put in place the networks and mechanisms that would make his change virtually irreversable. The Obama presidency will end American democracy.

McCain is doing absolutely nothing to stop this. Going after the Ayers connection is nice, but it's too little, too late. It's pointless as long as he doesn't connect the dots, make clear what Obama really stands for and position himself as a clear alternative.

re: #99 kynna

I hate the VO when she says 'too risky for America'. She sounds too over-the-top. It makes it sound cheesy and it's too bad it's at the end of the ad.

Otherwise it's excellent. Very well-produced.

Doesn't matter...you remember the words 'too risky for America'...and that is the goal.

re: #116 Sharmuta

Perhaps in states that are closer he's showing the tough ads, and states where he's behind but still trying he's playing the nice guy ads?

My thoughts exactly...this is a politically tough area...witness the truth squads...dem control for decades.

re: #107 USCMSNE

On the subject of ads, I find it humorous that Obama runs ads on Fox during Oreilly's show. I thought Oreilly's audience was comprised entirely of rabid, right wing, frothing at the mouth partisans.

Political affiliation of FOX viewers, the numbers, IIRC, released by FOX, are:

30% Democrat
40% Republican
30% independent

I suspect correct otherwise the One wouldn't have come on and done the O'Reilly interview.

re: #73 bosforus

Over 80,000 views and plenty of anti-McCain comments. For all their defending, they can't deny it's hit a nerve.

And Obama seems to be one nervy fellow (traveller).

re: #122 Celtic Templar

Obama: Dangerous

Sorry for repeating, but this seems to be on at least once an hour during Prime time when I watch in Philly, NJ area (ABC, CBS, NBC)

That seems to back up my theory.

That was great! I was afraid for a while they weren't going to tell exactly what Ayers and Dorhn did, but I would have included that Ayers' bombings resulted in the death of 2 cops.

re: #8 rudi

I understand this ad is solely a web-ad at this point.

Why doesn't the campaign put it on TV everywhere it can?

because the networks would likely not sell the air time
because it is disparaging to "the one"

re: #118 rudi

Well, I don't live in California, but I was in San Francisco last year for leisure. While riding a cable car I spotted a Carter-Mondale sign in the window of a house. Carter-Mondale!

Doesn't seem to be a wise choice to buy ads there if in fact McCain is doing so.

Last year I saw a McGovern sticker on a car. Seriously. It had been there since 1972, never scraped off. (Looked like an old Fiat or Volvo.)

re: #76 Cognito

It's a good advertisement. I'm not sure people are listening at this point, though.

I think McCain needs to focus on drawing very simple, almost kindergarten-level connections between the Democratic party -- including Barack Obama -- and the economic collapse that's threatening to swallow us whole.

My opinion, anyway.

Your elitism is showing.

re: #105 Dianna

It's because we live in California.

Though I do find it interesting that Obama's campaign is running ad after ad in California, attacking McCain and touting his "moderate" health care and tax plans. A total waste of money.

Obama's been running his ads in Illinois as well. This is a state that is supposedly safe for Obama, and his ads run here too. Almost as if he needs to reassure his flock.

re: #131 Adrenalyn

because the networks would likely not sell the air time
because it is disparaging to "the one"

No- because it would cost an arm and a leg to air an ad this long. We need that money to last a few more weeks and not blow our wad today.

re: #108 SpartanWoman

McCain will McNice himself to a 40% share in november. He just can't point to Franks and his colleague Dodd. He'd rather lose the election than lose his friend. Putz

unmitigated BS. McCain has two young sons serving in the military. Palin has one. They are hitting Obama hard as hell on this Ayers thing, and are going to keep up the attacks until Nov. 4.

check this out:
[Link: blog.pumapac.org...]

[Link: blog.pumapac.org...]

You want ads slamming Dodd et al for Fannie Mae? Get out the credit card, because this 527 group made some amazing ones. They won't get on the air unless people like you donate:

[Link: www.rightchange.com...]
[Link: www.rightchange.com...]

I'm going to give them $500. And that's a large pile of cash for me.

re: #117 Last Mohican

Could somebody please buy that man a microphone?

[Link: www.city-journal.org...]

re: #87 zombie

Don't count California out quite yet.

I realize it's a low priority, but anything is possible.

What color is the sky in your world? No way in hell CA is ever going to be in play.

The real connection with Ayres needs to be made. There is now an allegation this AM that Ayres ghost-wrote BHO's first book. If true, then the explanation needs to be made why that is important.
BTW, where ARE the Clintons? Thought for sure they'd be out on the stump for the One.

re: #132 zombie

Last year I saw a McGovern sticker on a car. Seriously. It had been there since 1972, never scraped off. (Looked like an old Fiat or Volvo.)

I have a feeling 20 years from now I'll still be seeing the Luap Nor stickers here in the moonbat part of Atlanta where I work

re: #124 Peter Verkooijen

This election is now a referendum on socialism. GWB laid the groundwork with the bailout. President Obama would finish the job, turn the US into a socialist country. In his first 4 years he would put in place the networks and mechanisms that would make his change virtually irreversable. The Obama presidency will end American democracy.

McCain is doing absolutely nothing to stop this. Going after the Ayers connection is nice, but it's too little, too late. It's pointless as long as he doesn't connect the dots, make clear what Obama really stands for and position himself as a clear alternative.

I really hate to contemplate the reality that perhaps a majority of the American public could care less right now about "socialism." Whatever it takes to save my bacon!

On the other hand, people can readily connect to ads demonstrating Obama's associations with America-hating radicals.

re: #105 Dianna

It's because we live in California.

Though I do find it interesting that Obama's campaign is running ad after ad in California, attacking McCain and touting his "moderate" health care and tax plans. A total waste of money.

IMHO, the Obama campaign is advertising in blue states to push up BHO's popular vote margin in case the electoral vote goes narrowly to McCain.

re: #118 rudi

WELCOME!

re: #134 Honorary Yooper

Obama's been running his ads in Illinois as well. This is a state that is supposedly safe for Obama, and his ads run here too. Almost as if he needs to reassure his flock.

The Chicago market reaches Indiana, which - lord help is - is in play.

If McCain loses Indiana, it's over.

'I...uh, just tink that, uh, the american people, uh, are smart eough to see swiftboating and not let it influence them... Now can I please go back to my Waffle?"

re: #121 karmic_inquisitor

Looks like Indianapolis has managed to register 105% of its voting age population!

What a wonderful time we live in!

That should be national news.

re: #141 Son of the Black Dog

The RNC thinks it can bag California or they wouldn't run ads here you can bet.

re: #100 doppelganglander

Oh, guys, this is good. Via the Corner:

30-Y.O. Unsolved SF Murders Reopen

The case was reopened three years ago, so no one can claim it's politically motivated. I smell a sequel to "Ayers."

Posted November 10, 2003. I guess nothing came out of it.

We know Ayers and Dorhn were leaders of a group that killed, maimed and destroyed property. It doesn't matter. They're apparently respected members of Chicago political society. They're cool in the eyes of 20-somethings who've been taught to hero-worship 1960s radicalism.

re: #135 Sharmuta

No- because it would cost an arm and a leg to air an ad this long. We need that money to last a few more weeks and not blow our wad today.

just goes to show what a fucking fool McCain is to be bound by spending limits of federal financing

re: #143 DeafDog

The Chicago market reaches Indiana, which - lord help is - is in play.

If McCain loses Indiana, it's over.

Wouldn't you think the stench of Chicago politics would convince most Hoosiers to go with McCain? We knew about it even down in the toe of the state.

re: #133 AmeriDan

Your elitism is showing.

No, it's meant to be the opposite. I know that I struggle to understand how the whole meltdown came to be, and that I didn't fully grasp it until I backed up and started with a very simple, almost childish explanation.

And let's face it. You can't unravel the whole thing in a 30-second spot. Best to go with circles and arrows, as Arlo Guthrie said.

The new McCain ad has been flagged! You now have to confirm your birth date to watch it.

Quite frankly, I am not optimistic anymore. I realize this may anger some folks, and it is not my intent.

The one venue he has the most opportunity to makes inroads is the one he has performed poorly in. The debates. This is free advertising, a captive audience of oh, about 50 million people, and an almost guarantee by the press to talk about it thereafter.

Elections also have a momentum factor. Look at the momentum after the Warren get together.

IMHO, anything short of telling the truth about how his positions, and policies are anti-American, will do little to stem the tide.

One question that he needs to be shouting, is if they are angry about the government shelling out $700 billion, what do they think it will cost to pay for Obama's health care proposal?

I can't figure out why someone is not running an ad questioning why he went to Europe to kick off his bid for an American election?

Why am I not seeing ads about Resko?

Why am I not seeing an ad about his unwillingness to release his school records? Hell, the pressure from that alone could potentially be enough to be a problem because of what might found discovered.

Limbaugh had it right, if McCain is to win, it will be due to the fact that the front line carried him across the goal line.

I will quit now.

re: #147 Peter Verkooijen

No statute of limitations on murder, I believe.

re: #149 vxbush

Wouldn't you think the stench of Chicago politics would convince most Hoosiers to go with McCain? We knew about it even down in the toe of the state.

It's the number one reason Indiana instituted their ID law for voters.

re: #31 Ringo the Gringo

I live in Maryland, but I do see McCain ads on tv stations based in DC and Virginia.

I see more Obama ads, though - but then, he has all that money to spend. Lying about tax and healthcare plans is his current theme.

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re: #151 bosforus

The new McCain ad has been flagged! You now have to confirm your birth date to watch it.

What the fuck?

re: #48 zombie

I have a question: Do these ads actually run on TV? Or are they just online to entertain pre-existing McCain supporters?

I, admittedly, rarely watch TV, but I have never seen a McCain ad actually being broadcast.

I've only seen one McCain ad here and it was eminently forgetable, I'm sorry to say, and we're a "battleground state." I have seen an ad launched a couple of days ago by an independent group, pinning the financial crash on Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.

re: #133 AmeriDan

I tend to agree with Cognito here. Most people are not listening. It is shocking to talk to people who are actually absolutely clueless about the issues at this point in time. McCain needs to pound it home that this crisis was due to Democrat policies based in socialistic ideals. And I also think McCain must clearly define why it matters that Obama is a socialist and what that means to the future of America.

re: #138 calcajun

BTW, where ARE the Clintons? Thought for sure they'd be out on the stump for the One.
I've noticed they and their surrogates DO "promote" Obama , but there's ALWAYS a "but ,,,,," (like Bill praising Mccain,,, Howard Woolfson questioning Obama's tax and health care numbers)

re: #95 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Whatchasmok'in there, Your Undeadness?

I know that you think the Bay Area is completely populated by Code Pink, but it's not. There are far more normal people, and they can be persuaded.

Some are becoming very, very uneasy. The Bay Area's expensive, so people pay attention to how money works. I saw a dread-locked, much pierced kid explaining to another kid how the CRA was launched in 1977, and expanded in 1995, and how it really was Barney Frank's baby.

That doesn't mean that McCain's going to take SF and Berkeley. But it does mean that your instant dismissal of California is wrong.

re: #156 unrealizedviewpoint

You cannot vote if you are younger than 18 anyway.

re: #121 karmic_inquisitor

Looks like Indianapolis has managed to register 105% of its voting age population!

What a wonderful time we live in!

It's that time of year when the dead rise from their graves, shamble forth among the living, driven by an irresistible force, compelled to come from beyond the grave... and vote!

re: #157 MandyManners

What the fuck?

The work of the left wing YouTards.

re: #136 funky chicken

McCain has to name names.

Otherwise the idea that "he won't because he can't" will take hold. I have not once heard him say Dodd and Franks.

And forget him jumping on a COrsi bandwagon, he undermined the swiftboat vets.

A campaign reporter talks about life on the campaign:

The McCain folks are more helpful and generally friendly. The schedules are printed on actual books you can hold in your hand, read, and then plan accordingly. The press aides are more knowledgeable and useful to us in the news media. The events are designed with a better eye, and for the simple needs of the press corps. When he is available, John McCain is friendly and loquacious. Obama holds news conferences, but seldom banters with the reporters who've been following him for thousands of miles around the country. Go figure.

The McCain campaign plane is better than Obama's, which is cramped, uncomfortable and smells terrible most of the time. Somehow the McCain folks manage to keep their charter clean, even where the press is seated.

The other day in Albuquerque, N.M., the reporters were given almost no time to file their reports after McCain spoke. It was an important, aggressive speech, lambasting Obama's past associations. When we asked for more time to write up his remarks and prepare our reports, the campaign readily agreed to it. They understood.

Similar requests are often denied or ignored by the Obama campaign aides, apparently terrified that the candidate may have to wait 20 minutes to allow reporters to chronicle what he's just said. It's made all the more maddening when we are rushed to our buses only to sit and wait for 30 minutes or more because nobody seems to know when Obama is actually on the move.

And yet still they kiss his ass.

re: #149 vxbush

Wouldn't you think the stench of Chicago politics would convince most Hoosiers to go with McCain? We knew about it even down in the toe of the state.

Gary, Indiana has an even worse political machine than Chicago. Remember the primary night fof Indiana? They were trying to steal the state from Hillary. Look for the same thing to happen in the general.

re: #148 Adrenalyn

just goes to show what a fucking fool McCain is to be bound by spending limits of federal financing

Nonsense! He's got money and 0bama still has to take time off from campaigning to raise money.

re: #151 bosforus

The new McCain ad has been flagged! You now have to confirm your birth date to watch it.

The tolerance of the moonbats rears its ugly head once again.

re: #161 Dianna

Ca. elected Ronald Reagan as governor after all.

re: #142 MandyManners

WELCOME!

Thank you!

re: #162 Ojoe

You cannot vote if you are younger than 18 anyway.

are you kidding. how many voters aren't registered at youtube. I'm not, so I can't watch this?

re: #157 MandyManners

What the fuck?

I share your sentiment.

Let's keep watching. I wouldn't be surprised if Youtube pulls the ad (or any other McCain ads) completely.

Rush is reporting the MacDaddy is calling the dems out on Fannie and Freddy!

re: #162 Ojoe

You cannot vote if you are younger than 18 anyway.

you can if you've been dead for 18 years in Chicago, though

re: #141 Son of the Black Dog

We've been down this road in 2000. The popular vote means nothing in presidential elections. In the event of a tie, the vote goes to the House...and we all know what will happen there.

The ad does nothing. People ask, if this guy was such a terrorist, why isn’t he in jail? He must not be too bad. He is still walking free. No one cares about Obama's past acquaintances. McCain should be hammering on his affiliation with Freddie Mac and Obama’s role in the melt down. He should be broadcasting Obama’s message that the way to get Iran to stop building nukes, is for us to destroy ours. He needs to push that Obama’s energy policy is for us to lower our standard of living.

This is the same mistake we made against Clinton. We pushed what WE thought was important. Push what OTHERS think is important.

re: #164 bosforus

The work of the left wing YouTards.

Never thought I'd find a homonym for Utahrds (a loving jab at the unique Utah culture)

re: #100 doppelganglander

Oh, guys, this is good. Via the Corner:

30-Y.O. Unsolved SF Murders Reopen

The case was reopened three years ago, so no one can claim it's politically motivated. I smell a sequel to "Ayers."

Might have a lot to do with why Dohrn refuses to authorize a movie about her and has remained very quiet at Ayers famous cocktail parties.

re: #76 Cognito

It's a good advertisement. I'm not sure people are listening at this point, though.

I think McCain needs to focus on drawing very simple, almost kindergarten-level connections between the Democratic party -- including Barack Obama -- and the economic collapse that's threatening to swallow us whole.

My opinion, anyway.

I agree. The Dems will be pointing and shouting at the markets from now until election day and going with the meme that the economic troubles are a Republican construct.

Dems have done a good job closing ranks and repeating with one voice that this is all the fault of the Republicans or, at worst, "both parties are to blame."

Republicans have done a HORRIBLE job in slamming this back into the Dems faces. There are enough facts, for crying out loud, all over the radio/internet, that tie the Dems right back to specific policies or blocking votes that got us into that jam. But it's just a weak little "yeah, but" out of the Republicans. President Bush and VP Cheney could also come out more forcefully.

We've let the Dems fix the blame on the Republicans and I think it resonates with the electorate.

re: #157 MandyManners

What the fuck?

How do you protest the flagging?

re: #172 unrealizedviewpoint

Voting in elections, you must be 18.

re: #160 sattv4u2

BTW, where ARE the Clintons? Thought for sure they'd be out on the stump for the One.
I've noticed they and their surrogates DO "promote" Obama , but there's ALWAYS a "but ,,,,," (like Bill praising Mccain,,, Howard Woolfson questioning Obama's tax and health care numbers)

I've noticed how Howard is acting like less of a shill and sounding--dare I say it--reasonable.

re: #157 MandyManners

This is just the tip of the iceberg folks.

re: #174 Sharmuta

Rush is reporting the MacDaddy is calling the dems out on Fannie and Freddy!

so is the usually liberal Snopes

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

re: #177 MI DB

McCain should be hammering on his affiliation with Freddie Mac and Obama’s role in the melt down.

Sounds like he's doing just that.

re: #127 unrealizedviewpoint

Political affiliation of FOX viewers, the numbers, IIRC, released by FOX, are:

30% Democrat
40% Republican
30% independent

I suspect correct otherwise the One wouldn't have come on and done the O'Reilly interview.

I was going to comment earlier, I noticed on the night of the first debate all the snap polls. Drudge leaned heavily McCain. CNN, MSNBC, CBS etc. all leaned heavily Obama. Fox had Obama edging out 53% to 47% give or take. The funny thing about that was if you tallied up the total votes from each of the other sources, CNN, MSNBC, Drudge etc. they all totaled to about 53% to 47%.

OT, but the biggest problem I see with the media, is that people watching cable news networks can't identify between the journalists/anchors from the pundits. The problem is exacerbated when the networks force them to blur their duties and responsibities. Case in point, Olbermann should never have covered a convention. He would have been a *decent* analyst for the left assuming he'd be countered by a like conservative analyst. But he should never have been given the reigns proper to play the host for debate coverage.

re: #147 Peter Verkooijen

re: #153 Ojoe

No statute of limitations on murder, I believe.

double indemnity. The Ayers case was kicked out of court for prosecutorial misconduct. Can't be re-treid, IIRC

Barack Obama should be easy to defeat with all this ammunition. One of the biggest problems as I see it is the complexity of the issues. It takes time to explain ACORN, the CRA/Fannie/Freedie mess, and the significance of Ayers, Wright and more.

It gets even harder when the media has clearly taken sides, and we need to combat simple sound bites like "I was 8 years old -- he's just in my neighborhood", "McCain is against deregulation", "he's not the wright/phlager I knew", etc.

These are complex issues and America is full of dumb voters who rely on media headlines and soundbites.

The challenge here is to cut through this fog and tell a story that can't be told effectively in short soundbites that the averge Joe can quickly digest. This ad is a start, but it will take much more than this. We know how the media will spin this, but if the full story is communicated, the spin will be less effective.

Obama needs to come clean. Someone ask Obama if he will apologize for associating with a domestic terrorist. People died and Obama lied.

re: #117 Last Mohican

Could somebody please buy that man a microphone?

He's a Yonkers City Councilman who is running for the New York Senate. He's got a microphone.

re: #132 zombie

Last year I saw a McGovern sticker on a car. Seriously. It had been there since 1972, never scraped off. (Looked like an old Fiat or Volvo.)

Not on a Fiat! That would be criminal!

Yes, I'd expect it on an old Volvo.

re: #162 Ojoe

You cannot vote if you are younger than 18 anyway.

But, it's an extra step!

re: #190 krycek

Obama needs to come clean. Someone ask Obama if he will apologize for associating with a domestic terrorist. People died and Obama lied.

he already is clean
just ask Joe Biden

/snickering....

Two can play that game...now we just need to get the "inappropriate" tab attached to the entire loony left. Age requirements? 16-23.

re: #164 bosforus

The work of the left wing YouTards.

ObstructionistsRUs.

re: #181 CapeCoddah

How do you protest the flagging?

Repost it under a new user! And spam it all over!

re: #146 Ojoe

The RNC thinks it can bag California or they wouldn't run ads here you can bet.

I thought the point was that the McCain campaign was NOT running ads in California.

re: #152 formercorpsman

You don't anger me. I don't think there's more than a handfull of Lizards who ever wanted McCain to be the candidate. We are very excited about Sarah Palin, and appreciate McCain bringing her in, but I don't like the man's politics and that hasn't changed one iota.

He'll have to be dragged to the Oval Office and once he's there, he'll have to be monitored closely. Yes. We'll have to get him there, then stomp all over Republicans in congress to keep McCain from selling the store.

How is that different from Obama? McCain is misguided, but loves this country. Obama, his friends, his advisers, his followers ... all of them ... HATE this country and everything it has always stood for. Big diff, IMO.

re: #180 Russkilitlover

Honestly McCain's response to this -- this obvious truth -- has been so steadfastly milquetoast that I'm starting to wonder if there's something he's afraid of, there.

McCain appears to have made the right decision on campaign spending. Obama is spending about $.50 for every dollar he raises. He is having local support groups pay for ads. I think Obama's lead is solely attributable to the 3 to 1 favorable press he receives over Obama.

re: #150 Cognito

[...]And let's face it. You can't unravel the whole thing in a 30-second spot. Best to go with circles and arrows, as Arlo Guthrie said.

Ding! Gratuitous Alice's Restaurant reference.

re: #166 Kenneth

A campaign reporter talks about life on the campaign:

And yet still they kiss his ass.

Notice how BHO keeps everyone waiting, makes demands to get their luggage ready early in the mornings and ignores them.

#179 pat

re: #100 doppelganglander

Oh, guys, this is good. Via the Corner:

30-Y.O. Unsolved SF Murders Reopen

The case was reopened three years ago, so no one can claim it's politically motivated. I smell a sequel to "Ayers."

Might have a lot to do with why Dohrn refuses to authorize a movie about her and has remained very quiet at Ayers famous cocktail parties.

And also why they desperately hope the O gets into the WH - a full pardon.

re: #183 calcajun

I've noticed how Howard is acting like less of a shill and sounding--dare I say it--reasonable.

he has too. he'll still want Hillary to run for it in 2012, either against McCain or if Obama wins, hope people become disenchanted with 'The One" after 4 years and run against him (I know, it's almost unheard of to run against a sitting Pres in your own party, but it has happened)

re: #187 USCMSNE

Sorry, I can't even think about Olbermann without my blood pressure shooting up. I can't discuss this horrible man.

re: #6 Typicalwhitey

In case no one saw it from the last thread.
I emailed this to the GOP and McCain.
Faxed it to all his offices and called and told them about it too!

Ok I either have a great idea or I am a total moron:

what's so troubling is that his Marxist moonbat supporters would choose Ayers over Bush...

Just in ... just watched the ad
ooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
WHACK!
*salivate*

re: #141 Son of the Black Dog

IMHO, the Obama campaign is advertising in blue states to push up BHO's popular vote margin in case the electoral vote goes narrowly to McCain.

Interesting speculation, and one I'll keep in mind.

re: #189 kellino

I meant to say that Obama's argument is that McCain has always been FOR de-regulation.

That's a premise that requires one to beleive that all regulation is created equal, while ignoring the leadership of McCain in pushing FOR GSE regulation.

This argument was made in 3 debates now and never successfully countered.

It wasn't flagged just now, and I didn't have to sign in or show anything..... maybe they got complaints.
(I gave it five stars)

re: 138

"Where are the Clintons"

They're in a tough spot. The Messiah wins and the pantsuit might have to wait 8 years for another shot. McCain wins and she might have to wait 12 years (4 for McCain and 2 terms for President Palin).
Either way, I think we've probably seen the last of Hillary

Well, one way around the flagging at youtube would be to put the ad or a shorter version on TV, no?

re: #165 SpartanWoman

I didn't say anything about Corsi. Corsi is a nut. Perhaps his Obama book was good, perhaps it wasn't. Sadly, if the author has been raving about the North American Union for years, he's easy to discredit. McCain's not going to suddenly make Corsi a centerpiece of his campaign.

And McCain didn't discredit the swiftboat vets. That's a smear. McCain went after the Ted Sampley/Jerry Kiley "Vietnam Vets Against John Kerry."

If you want to know why, here's why:

[Link: www.miafacts.org...]

re: #179 pat

They will never touch Dohrn and Ayres. They'll get pardoned.

re: #182 Ojoe

Voting in elections, you must be 18.

And if the ad runs on TV, will the networks be fined by the FCC for broadcasting "mature" content?

"Mature content" my ass.

Re #78 sattv4u2

Your reference to the Manson-led Tate/LoBianco murders was more telling than you might have thought.

Ayers' wife Dohrn is quoted as ecstatically extolling those murders in the days/weeks after they occurred. Check out the quote in a post on [Link: www.puma08.com...] (no I am not a PUMA person or troll).

The McCain campaign needs to do a spinoff of this Ayers-centric ad with another one, in which it points to Dohrn's praise of the Manson "family" and all the gruesome murders attempted murders with which she herself is associated. And then talk about the all-in-the-family connections that brought Dohrn and Michelle Obama together at Sidley & Austin, and BHO together with Michelle and then Ayers, etc.

BHO is not simply "too risky" for America. He's a mendacious manipulative narcissist, who built his base through unashamed collaboration with unabashed murderers. "Too much of a liar" for America ought to be the tag.

re: #150 Cognito

No, it's meant to be the opposite. I know that I struggle to understand how the whole meltdown came to be, and that I didn't fully grasp it until I backed up and started with a very simple, almost childish explanation.

And let's face it. You can't unravel the whole thing in a 30-second spot. Best to go with circles and arrows, as Arlo Guthrie said.

Sure, but can you teach an adult about this in 30-seconds using kindergarten words? It may work just fine with you... Good Cog, that's a good Cog, Cog didn't poop his pants! You are a good Cog!... but I have more faith in the American public than you.

Just tell them the frickin truth.

re: #188 sattv4u2

uhh...double jeopardy

Does Obama support the Patriot Act? Someone ask Obama if his association with Ayers affect his support of the Patriot Act.

re: #170 Ojoe

Ca. elected Ronald Reagan as governor after all.

And der Governator! However much true believers have been disappointed in Arnold, he's done the best he can in the face of a Democrat legislature that actively hates him.

re: #173 Last Mohican

I share your sentiment.

Let's keep watching. I wouldn't be surprised if Youtube pulls the ad (or any other McCain ads) completely.

Live Leak?

re: #136 funky chicken

unmitigated BS. McCain has two young sons serving in the military. Palin has one. They are hitting Obama hard as hell on this Ayers thing, and are going to keep up the attacks until Nov. 4.

check this out:
[Link: blog.pumapac.org...]

[Link: blog.pumapac.org...]

You want ads slamming Dodd et al for Fannie Mae? Get out the credit card, because this 527 group made some amazing ones. They won't get on the air unless people like you donate:

[Link: www.rightchange.com...]
[Link: www.rightchange.com...]

I'm going to give them $500. And that's a large pile of cash for me.

Thanks for linking this. I hope you don't mind- I added some bold.

re: #192 Dianna

It would be a miracle too.....a Fiat still running that long!

Breaking: Another half-brother of Obama has surfaced.

...something about those ears...

re: #152 formercorpsman

I agree with your post. When you consider that 30% of eligible taxpayers pay 0 taxes, a Republican starts behind. Obama is promising them more stuff & the stuff is yours.
The game is for the rest. McCain has got to go all in, Full Metal Jacket.
Let the media scream, screw em. They will only like McCain if he is a good loser.

re: #200 Cognito

Honestly McCain's response to this -- this obvious truth -- has been so steadfastly milquetoast that I'm starting to wonder if there's something he's afraid of, there.

Someone up thread probably hit the nail on the head when they said that McCain has Democratic colleagues who will be implicated deeply, and so he is keeping his criticism to a minimum for their sake.

re: #151 bosforus

The new McCain ad has been flagged! You now have to confirm your birth date to watch it.

Go to the John McCain.com Tab AD:Ayers tab to watch it.

re: #181 CapeCoddah

How do you protest the flagging?

I have no idea. I gave up trying to work on it a while back.

re: #184 WinterCat

This is just the tip of the iceberg folks.

It's utterly corrupt.

re: #219 dolfan

THANKS ,,, I knew sumfin didn't look right when it left my fingers!

re: #217 ShumBaayaMyLord

PUMAs are not trolls, imo. They should be welcomed heartedly. Some might even be convinced to stay on our side, and that's good.

re: #165 SpartanWoman

McCain has to name names.

Otherwise the idea that "he won't because he can't" will take hold. I have not once heard him say Dodd and Franks.

And forget him jumping on a COrsi bandwagon, he undermined the swiftboat vets.

Yeah he did. He defended that traitorous prick, Kerry.

re: #205 sattv4u2

he has too. he'll still want Hillary to run for it in 2012, either against McCain or if Obama wins, hope people become disenchanted with 'The One" after 4 years and run against him (I know, it's almost unheard of to run against a sitting Pres in your own party, but it has happened)

example: Kennedy ran against Carter in 1980. If it wasn't for his incident on the bridge, he probably would have defeated Carter (IMO).

re: #113 rawmuse

I attended that hearing, proud to say.

That's neat. Maybe we can appoint you Head Lizard in Charge of this story, and you can post links to any new developments.

re: #132 zombie

Last year I saw a McGovern sticker on a car. Seriously. It had been
there since 1972, never scraped off. (Looked like an old Fiat or Volvo.)

It had to be a Volvo. No Fiat is still running since 1972.

re: #141 Son of the Black Dog

You mean they STILL haven't gotten around to reading the Constitution? (I mean, it's not like it changes frequently or something.)

re: #230 MandyManners

No worries. I'm sure they are applying the same standards to jihadi videos.

/sarcasm

re: #225 Kenneth

Breaking: Another half-brother of Obama has surfaced.

...something about those ears...

*whack*

THAT SCARED THE SHIT OUTTA' ME.

re: #211 tradewind

It wasn't flagged just now, and I didn't have to sign in or show anything..... maybe they got complaints.
(I gave it five stars)

I still cannot view because I'm unregistered. It probably worked for you because it's working off cookies. Are you registered already? if so that's why. You probably previously checked you are over 18. .

re: #200 Cognito

Honestly McCain's response to this -- this obvious truth -- has been so steadfastly milquetoast that I'm starting to wonder if there's something he's afraid of, there.

I don't think it's fear on McCain's part. It's more like a disconnect: McCain can't seem to grasp that he's running against a candidate who espouses in his every deed the very ideology that tortured him all those years ago. I think that his opposition's ideology is McCain's blind spot in a "It Can't Happen Here" kind of way. Honestly, it's a naivety I never would bave expected from someone with McCain's history.

re: #176 calcajun

We've been down this road in 2000. The popular vote means nothing in presidential elections. In the event of a tie, the vote goes to the House...and we all know what will happen there.

Agree with you, but that wasn't my point. Situation of a narrow McCain win in the electoral college vs. a popular vote majority for BHO. They want to be able to cry "fraud" and "selected, not elected".

re: #121 karmic_inquisitor

Looks like Indianapolis has managed to register 105% of its voting age population!

What a wonderful time we live in!

I wonder what the bonus size per acorn will be.

re: #239 MandyManners

*whack*

THAT SCARED THE SHIT OUTTA' ME.

Yeah, and the little guy is spooky too!

re: #237 joncelli

You mean they STILL haven't gotten around to reading the Constitution? (I mean, it's not like it changes frequently or something.)

It changes nearly on a daily basis. Ask any liberal judge.

re: #217 ShumBaayaMyLord

Re #78 sattv4u2

Your reference to the Manson-led Tate/LoBianco murders was more telling than you might have thought.

Ayers' wife Dohrn is quoted as ecstatically extolling those murders in the days/weeks after they occurred. Check out the quote in a post on [Link: www.puma08.com...] (no I am not a PUMA person or troll).

The McCain campaign needs to do a spinoff of this Ayers-centric ad with another one, in which it points to Dohrn's praise of the Manson "family" and all the gruesome murders attempted murders with which she herself is associated. And then talk about the all-in-the-family connections that brought Dohrn and Michelle Obama together at Sidley & Austin, and BHO together with Michelle and then Ayers, etc.

BHO is not simply "too risky" for America. He's a mendacious manipulative narcissist, who built his base through unashamed collaboration with unabashed murderers. "Too much of a liar" for America ought to be the tag.

How close were WAB and Dohrn? WAB interned the summer of the last year Dohrn worked there.

How long will it take for the Democrats to turn America into a fascist state once Obama gets in? Years? Weeks? Days? With the flagging of McCain's ad -- an ad from a Presidential candidate from one of the two major parties in this country -- essentially banning it from the internet by forcing people to sign in before watching it the Democrats haven't waited until Obama is even elected. Give us your name before you watch it because we are watching you.

Fascism is here now.

re: #200 Cognito

Honestly McCain's response to this -- this obvious truth -- has been so steadfastly milquetoast that I'm starting to wonder if there's something he's afraid of, there.

I've found my own fury rather frightening. Perhaps McCain - who's worked very hard on forgiveness - is afraid of what he feels.

The as is good, but it is shown in a limited area of the country, so the audience is limited as well. McCain must make points in the debates that are televised nationally.

/John, off yer ass and on yer feet, outta the shade and into da heat!

re: #237 joncelli

You
mean they STILL haven't gotten around to reading the Constitution? (I
mean, it's not like it changes frequently or something.)

It changes everytime the Supreme Courtv is in session.

McCain is in Wisconsin at a town hall meeting. He keeps saying, like he did in the debate, that medical records should be available online. I do not understand or support this. A moonbat was just indicted for hacking into his running mate's e-mail account. Seems to me this is an absurd idea. What do you folks think?

UPDATE at 10/9/08 10:07:48 am:

The leftists are playing games at YouTube again. This video—from the campaign of a presidential candidate!—has now been flagged as “inappropriate” and you need to confirm your birth date before viewing. Amazing.

I'm not so sure I'd despair at that. I remember Tipper Gore's PMRC pressuring congress to get record labels to put stickers on albums that contained "adult content".

Turned out to be a marketing bonanza for the record industry

re: #148 Adrenalyn

just goes to show what a fucking fool McCain is to be bound by spending limits of federal financing

Then get out and work for him. Otherwise, if he as you describe, maybe you should go work for the other side!

re: #124 Peter Verkooijen

This election is now a referendum on socialism.

Agree. Much of the electorate is clueless about this.

The Obama-files
1 Forget Islam-Look at Obama's Socialism!

[snip]
While many have focused on Obama's boyhood Islamic ties and his extreme left voting record, his Marxist ties have been almost completely overlooked.

While Hillary Clinton's radical past has been well documented, Barack Obama's much more recent links remain largely uncovered.

I'm sure this will change. I'm sure Barack Obama's opponents in the Clinton and Republican camps are googling his name as we speak.

I have posted here, here, here, here and here on the Communist Party's love of Obama, but that doesn't prove that Obama supports the Communists.

In the rest of this series, Ill be covering aspects of Obama's links to the far left, particularly in his home town of Chicago.

The series won't be in chronological sequence. Each piece will focus on Obama's links to the far left-past and present.

I hope you will find it enlightening.

Obama-file 2 here

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Obama File 34 Black Radicals for Obama

There are about 3 dozen posts altogether (so far), linked forward and backward.

re: #238 kellino

No worries. I'm sure they are applying the same standards to jihadi videos.

/sarcasm

Wasn't there a shake-up over that within the past three or so weeks?

re: #121 karmic_inquisitor

Looks like Indianapolis has managed to register 105% of its voting age population!

What a wonderful time we live in!

That link provides another one:
the Obama Campaign gvae over 800,000 $$ to ACORN - fraudulently ...

Nothing new there, then ...

re: #225 Kenneth

Breaking: Another half-brother of Obama has surfaced.

...something about those ears...

I so miss the Weekly World News at the checkout stand.

re: #170 Ojoe

40 years ago. That time is long gone.