Holding onto my cash ;)

Here's a cluebrick, folks. Apply directly to forehead, repeat until effective.

*sigh*

Suddenly I'm thankful I never worked up the courage to make the $1,000 initial deposit for e-stock exchanges.

/back to the open thread for me...

Boy, sure am glad we passed that $700 billion to bail out the market. Yuppers, that sure went well. At this rate, we're gonna need the wooden arrow subsidy to be able to afford being hunter/gatherers.

All that cash on the sidelines, waiting for to get back in.

George Soros Obama is going to save us. Government controlled everything is his cure.
Can you taste it?

Who's making money off of this?

re: #7 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who's making money off of this?

An excellent question.

A short answer? Not me. Not my Foundation, either.

8232 now, off about 347. Folks, don't make the mistake I did and check the value of your IRA. You don't want to know. :-(

Meanwhile - democrats are suggesting a government take over of our 401Ks.

BE AFRAID.

re: #9 joncelli

8232 now, off about 347. Folks, don't make the mistake I did and check the value of your IRA. You don't want to know. :-(

My 401k is down 9%

Dow average is about to go below 8,000

It already did in the first six minutes and I scored by shorting it. Then it went all the way into positive territory within the first half hour. Now, it's back down 350 and I'm trying to ride the DIA (DOW ETF) back up.

/what can I say, I'm feeling feisty and I see a swing back up yet today

I need food and coffee to cope.

BRB!

At last. Now we know the O is the messiah because Farrakhan says so.

I am putting all of my money in popcorn futures.

re: #7 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who's making money off of this?

If yer good with options you can. That wouldn't include me. Luckily I invested in Asian, er...

Was at a bar last night with some friends when a dude spilled his drink all over one of my friends. He apologized & bought us a round - turned out he was a bond trader who basically believed he would be out of a job today. But that didn't stop him from buying everyone in sight drinks all night long. I guess he figured if he's going down, he might as well have a good time doing it!

re: #10 FrogMarch

I suggest that the Democrats get out of the 'governing' business...they clearly don't know their asses from deep center field.

re: #7 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who's making money off of this?

Yes, where did all our wealth go and will it ever come back?

re: #14 ladycatnip

At last. Now we know the O is the messiah because Farrakhan says so.

Shouldn't a (Black) Muslim think 0bama is the Mahdi?

Even Bevmo's going to feel the pain soon -- while Cutty Sark may maintain it's price, the high end scotches have to come down and then I'm going to score!

re: #16 uncle_monkey

Knowing Asian markets, we'll be buying like mad when there's blood on the streets. [:

re: #10 FrogMarch

bad linky?

REPOST from previous thread

Over the years, I (and many others) have concluded that some Americans (I use the term loosely) and most of the rest of the world would love to see America go into a financial collapse. They get giddy at the thought of America knocked off the "greatest country" pedestal. For whatever reason, evil, jealousy, stupidity....etc.

We all you f*ckers, now that our economy is taking a nosedive EVERYONE is affected. While our economy struggles so do the economies of other major markets. China, Russia, Europe. Our economic systems are so closely knit now because of computers and the ease of overseas investments, ease of travel and the "shrinking" of our world, you better be careful of what you wish for.

re: #17 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Was at a bar last night with some friends when a dude spilled his drink all over one of my friends. He apologized & bought us a round - turned out he was a bond trader who basically believed he would be out of a job today. But that didn't stop him from buying everyone in sight drinks all night long. I guess he figured if he's going down, he might as well have a good time doing it!

He's probably putting it on his credit card, and then will go bankrupt when he loses his job, and we'll all be paying.

The Republicans have two huge issues to run on. The world wide financial crisis was caused by two things.

1. Out of control Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.

2. Oil prices.

Run on that forcefully with specifics and you'll have a fighting chance.

I took all my 401 and put it into gold. I don't think it will blast off however it will still be worth something when this all settles out. When the time is right I will buy Mutuals that are bargains and hopefully weather the storm.

I have no idea who is really making money off this whole thing - however since I moved to GLD (the ETF that is a bullion holder) I have gained %8 on the total.

re: #25 Kosh's Shadow

LOL

P.S. to #14

All those halo pics make perfect sense now.

I actually saw the sky fall on my way to work this morning....

re: #14 ladycatnip

At last. Now we know the

re: #26 freedomplow

What about the deregulation?

/been meaning to get that nagging point out of my head here

Hey, is there any good site for a comprehensive review of how much debt municipalities have taken on for bond measures as well as all those retirement bennies they wink-wink negotiated with public employee unions? Leaving aside the whole "a non-vote for McCain's a vote for Obama", it's patently clear that McCain has no fucking clue what to do -- and obviously his cherished pro-immigration stance is contributing to our problems. At this point, and I don't mean in reference to this election specifically, who out there not only has their head in the right place, but has the intangibles of leadership?

Last night my cash-strapped brother called me to get advice about taking money out of his 401k. I told him he was absolutely crazy if he did such a thing right now. He said he didn't care and then told me he had a 6-figure balance. I didn't call him a liar, but this is a kid who has been in the workforce for less than a decade and he isn't a CEO. I told him the market value of his 401 was probably not anywhere near what he had a few days ago, and yet he insisted that he had plenty. Sigh...The really stupid thing is that he refuses to cut expenses...Deep sigh...All I know for sure is that if he tries hitting our parents up for any more money, I will personally ream him a new one.

re: #7 Who Watches the Watchmen?

nobody........yet....At somepoint, people will start buying

Financial Crisis Watch

That's a good way of putting it, because all we can really do is watch.

Time for a Janis Joplin tune. Let's hope it settles down today and we've seen our big correction finish out.

re: #24 bellamags

3 wood said foreign cash is flooding into America right now, guess they might be having second thoughts about knocking us off the pedistal right now.

re: #18 elevenbravo1969

Don't worry, today they also said: "From each according to his own ability, to each according to his needs"

Also, I hear once Obama is in, they are going to announce a new 5-Year plan. And, Prez. Obama wants us all to start our own home smelters so we can make steel and be competitive.

re: #23 turn

bad linky?

It works when I click on it. maybe certain plug-ins are required...?

Great- now that everybody else's economies are failing, they'll all want a bailout from Congress too.

Tough shit- ask the UN. We already gave at the office.

I know what we need.

A far Left spend crazy and tax crazy Executive and Congress.

I know what we already have, a Republican nominee incapable of convincing the American people that if they vote for that they are crazy too.

re: #23 turn

bad linky?

You can try getting to it from here.
[Link: vodkapundit.com...]

re: #14 ladycatnip

Isn't that amazing/sickening. I didn't know that Muslims believed in a messiah. I thought Mohammed was the greatest and last prophet.

re: #40 FrogMarch

Must be on my end, I see it is PM but it gives an error when loading, oh well time to move on. Thanks.

re: #15 Lawrence Schmerel

I am putting all of my money in popcorn futures.

Lawrence! How you doin'?

I posted this info on 2 dead thread, I want to repeat one part of it...

McCain did 15 minutes on KOA radio this morning, they said first radio interview he's done. Anyway, they went over points from last debate, asking for clarifications

McCain repeated the home owner bail out idea again THEN he mentioned he will legally go after those responsible in DC.

Why didn't he say that at the debate, the part about DC.

re: #44 rw in san diego

Uh- they call Jesus the Messiah and believe he'll return.

Have no fear...Obama is going to save us!

re: #43 FrogMarch

Thanks, that worked for me ...

re: #45 turn

Yeah - same here.

Oh and another thing...some of this selling is the market anticipation of our current socialist government being extended into a communist state for 4 years...

Does anybody think there's much of this going on today?

re: #49 cblesz

Have no fear...Obama is going to save us!

Didn't he take credit for the bailout?

OT
Heard this am on KSFO's Lee Rodgers Show:

Some American k-12 textbooks, when mentioning Christianity, state that, "Christianity was founded by a young Palestinian..."

In the world of textbook publishing, Christianity and Judaism are treated in a scholarly fashion while Islam is only allowed to be written about by practicing muslims. Folks, that's a window that needs a brick thrown through it and soon.

#20 Kosh's Shadow

re: #14 ladycatnip

At last. Now we know the O is the messiah because Farrakhan says so.

Shouldn't a (Black) Muslim think 0bama is the Mahdi?

Either that or the 12th imam. No, wait - Ahmadinejad think's he's the 12th guy.

re: #21 SFGoth

What's a good scotch? We're mostly wine/beer/margarita drinkers, but I'd like to have a good scotch on hand for a family member who really prefers scotch.

re: #50 turn

Oh way, reroute through VP same problem. F#$%^ IE!

I smell Soros.

You wanted to know what the "October Surprise" is?

re: #57 rw in san diego

What's a good scotch? We're mostly wine/beer/margarita drinkers, but I'd like to have a good scotch on hand for a family member who really prefers scotch.

When I was drinking more than you want to know, Highland Mist worked for me. (Boy I'm going to get slammed for that).

re: #7 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who's making money off of this?

No one yet, but when anyone sells it means someone is buying. Market goes up and those buying "good" stocks at low prices will make a killing. The problem (according to my broker) is that while there are great deals out there, no one wants to be the first in.

re: #53 Tom Blogical

I'll bet you one dollar there is ....

re: #7 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who's making money off of this?

People like George Soros.

re: #55 elevenbravo1969

OT
Heard this am on KSFO's Lee Rodgers Show:

Some American k-12 textbooks, when mentioning Christianity, state that, "Christianity was founded by a young Palestinian..."

In the world of textbook publishing, Christianity and Judaism are treated in a scholarly fashion while Islam is only allowed to be written about by practicing muslims. Folks, that's a window that needs a brick thrown through it and soon.

I [heart] Lee Rodgers. Best talk show host there is. In fact, Monday's, when he's usually not on (and Brian Sussman is), I don't bother to listen to his show.

re: #59 RaiderDan

I smell Soros. You wanted to know what the "October Surprise" is?

I mentioned that possibility on the dead thread. Mabye this was the Oct. surprise and we missed it.

re: #10 FrogMarch

Meanwhile - democrats are suggesting a government take over of our 401Ks.

BE AFRAID.

Last night Glenn Beck addressed the fact that this bailout has already sent us into the realm of socialist-utopia. Not a good thing.

Zogby made a good point about this election as compared to the one in 1980. In 1980, people didn't make up their mind about Reagan until a few days before the election. There's still an opportunity to change minds; McCain just has to seize the opportunity.

re: #21 SFGoth

Even Bevmo's going to feel the pain soon -- while Cutty Sark may maintain it's price, the high end scotches have to come down and then I'm going to score!

Scapa is still at $45.00 a fifth same as it was when I first started buying it a few years ago.

In fact, that initial 600+ plunge within six minutes of the open, on massive volume, sure looked like a bottom at 8000. It immediately snapped back up over 8500.

/the floor traders were really psyched to see that happen

re: #14 ladycatnip

At last. Now we know the

re: #60 Walter L. Newton

Highland Mist?! *snort*

re: #63 FurryOldGuyJeans

People like George Soros.

I've heard this suspicion time and time again. Is there some proof because I really, really want to know.

Well, at least we get to be a part of financial history.

Damn interesting month.

BUY SOMETHING WITH THE FREAKING 700 BILLION HANK! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

re: #57 rw in san diego

What's a good scotch? We're mostly wine/beer/margarita drinkers, but I'd like to have a good scotch on hand for a family member who really prefers scotch.

Scotch is very complex. It really depends on your palate. I prefer sweeter, lighter ones, such as Highlands and Speyside. Oddly, most women I know that otherwise avoid scotch like a bad ex really dig Laphroaig, one of the peatiest there is. My favorites are Aberlour 15 (now 16), Glenfiddich 15 (Solera res.), and oddly enough, Dewars 12 (yes, a blend and a great deal). Oban 14 is also quite good.

I can't believe people are selling. The bottom feeders are going to become very wealthy.

re: #48 Sharmuta

Uh- they call Jesus the Messiah and believe he'll return.

They believe He'll return to destoy the world. Kind of a different view on the whole "judge the living & the dead" thing.

8232. Maybe it's stabilizing. (Sigh. Like a trauma victim.)

re: #55 elevenbravo1969

OT
Heard this am on KSFO's Lee Rodgers Show:

Some American k-12 textbooks, when mentioning Christianity, state that, "Christianity was founded by a young Palestinian..."

There were no "Palestinians" in Jesus' time. The Romans did not rename Judea "Palestine" (in an act of ethnic cleansing) until over 100 years after his death.

In other news, Jesus did not "found Christianity"; he himself lived and died a Jew. "Christianity" is the breakaway religion started by Jesus' followers, who were mostly Jews; Peter and Paul, of course, were.

re: #69 Killian Bundy

In fact, that initial 600+ plunge within six minutes of the open, on massive volume, sure looked like a bottom at 8000. It immediately snapped back up over 8500.

/the floor traders were really psyched to see that happen

I see FCX is down to $33.53 - copper's going down, gold up. Quite a ride.

#31 Kragar...

Messiah or Mahdi?

Both. Farrakhan's statement is meant for universal appeal. O is a global citizen, so he has to be a savior to the Christians and Jews, and mahdi to the muslims.

He's just all things to all men.

re: #39 Desert Dog

Don't worry, today they also said: "From each according to his own ability, to each according to his needs"

Also, I hear once Obama is in, they are going to announce a new 5-Year plan. And, Prez. Obama wants us all to start our own home smelters so we can make steel and be competitive.

LOL -- but you 're probably closer to the truth than we know.

Oddly, I think all this crashing is just the phony wealth that's been created through accounting gimmicks (derivatives). It's not like we've got a dust-bowl, or natural resources have run out, or major strikes are occurring. It's just that for a while, people are going to have to start making coffee at home and bringing it in in a thermos, packing lunch, cutting back on drinks, etc.

re: #7 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who's making money off of this?

George Soros.

re: #72 turn

I've heard this suspicion time and time again. Is there some proof because I really, really want to know.

You will never get definitive proof until after the crisis is over, if ever. Crippling an economy is not something one does out in the open. I said what I said previously because it fits the modus operandi that Soros and others of his ilk has used more than once in the past.

re: #78 buzzsawmonkey

There were no "Palestinians" in Jesus' time. The Romans did not rename Judea "Palestine" (in an act of ethnic cleansing) until over 100 years after his death.

In other news, Jesus did not "found Christianity"; he himself lived and died a Jew. "Christianity" is the breakaway religion started by Jesus' followers, who were mostly Jews; Peter and Paul, of course, were.

In fact, one had to convert to Judaism first, in order to become a Christian.

That went away when they showed the European pagans the knife.

re: #83 Spiny Norman

George Soros.

Redistribution of wealth!

re: #57 rw in san diego

What's a good scotch? We're mostly wine/beer/margarita drinkers, but I'd like to have a good scotch on hand for a family member who really prefers scotch.

Find out if there is a region they prefer and go from there.

re: #57 rw in san diego

What's a good scotch? We're mostly wine/beer/margarita drinkers, but I'd like to have a good scotch on hand for a family member who really prefers scotch.

I like the island whiskeys. Isle of Jura is one of my favorites. Also Scapa, which comes from the Orkney Islands. Named after Scapa Flow, home to a Royal Navy base and the place where the Kaiser's fleet was scuttled after WWI.

Highland Park in another Orkney whiskey. It's pricier than Scapa. But I actually like Scapa better though. Your Taste Buds May Vary.

Be careful with the real "smokey" or "peaty" ones like Talisker and Laphroaig. Those are a real acquired taste.

Can't go wrong wth Glenlivet or Macallan either.

What's going to happen to all these worshippers when they find out that Obama is just a Chicago wardheeler after all? It'd be interesting to see his presidency attacked from the loony left. (Yes, I've given up.)

re: #80 ladycatnip

#31 Kragar...

Both. Farrakhan's statement is meant for universal appeal. O is a global citizen, so he has to be a savior to the Christians and Jews, and mahdi to the muslims.

He's just all things to all men.

He is a lying sack of socialist shit to his man.

re: #70 newsjunkie_ky

Hey news! The other night you posted a link to WE WILL NOT BE SILENT with the videos of the Obama thuggery...By any chance did you save those videos?

OT

Who, What, When, Where, Background on:

Mark Lippert, personal aid to Obama , sr. foreign policy aid, they play one on one bb, wear one another's shoes, he was Obama's go between with the thug in Kenyan, per

Corsi, wnd sorry, but he does get some facts correct and has copies of
e-mails from this Lippert and Odinga's staff in Kenya at and during the terror there.

[Link: www.wnd.com...]
Proof Obama backed ruthless, foreign thug.
by Bob Unruh

at the end and on wickie say Mark Lippert "helped hone Obama's anti war views, AND IS A FORMER NAVY SEAL, intelligence officer (a la Murtha)

Lippert worked at State Dept and Office of Naval Intelligence
went to Russia as an adviser to Obama and then to Kenya

WTF

re: #48 Sharmuta

I didn't know that. Thanks.

re: #78 buzzsawmonkey

There were no "Palestinians" in Jesus' time. The Romans did not rename Judea "Palestine" (in an act of ethnic cleansing) until over 100 years after his death.

In other news, Jesus did not "found Christianity"; he himself lived and died a Jew. "Christianity" is the breakaway religion started by Jesus' followers, who were mostly Jews; Peter and Paul, of course, were.

Not to stir up trouble, but as a Jew I've always considered that Jews for Jesus makes more sense than Christianity, in the sense that Jews for Jesus would be what "it" would be like if Jews actually believed he were the Messiah. Instead, after his death, his followers essentially created a new religion.

re: #79 Irene NYC

I see FCX is down to $33.53 - copper's going down, gold up. Quite a ride.

/day's not over yet

re: #46 Ward Cleaver

Gee, I'm doin' swell. Thank you for asking, Mr. Cleaver.

re: #72 turn

I don't think there's any proof...it's just conjecture (given the fact that Soros broke the Bank of England in 1992 -- through short selling...) Today, however, George Bush stated that the federal authorities will be looking into short selling (including passing on false rumors that Company X is failing, etc., etc.)

There's tons of money on the sidelines. It's just sitting there laughing at the rubes who are selling into this almost totally unjustified panic.

I keep wondering why stricter trading curbs haven't been put in place.

Lunch time.

re: #74 SFGoth

Scotch is very complex. It really depends on your palate. I prefer sweeter, lighter ones, such as Highlands and Speyside. Oddly, most women I know that otherwise avoid scotch like a bad ex really dig Laphroaig, one of the peatiest there is. My favorites are Aberlour 15 (now 16), Glenfiddich 15 (Solera res.), and oddly enough, Dewars 12 (yes, a blend and a great deal). Oban 14 is also quite good.

Boy is that true, I can't stand scotch. But then again I drink Keystone Light!

There's an ACORN in that pile of sh!t.

Thousands of voter registration forms faked, officials say

CROWN POINT, Indiana (CNN) -- More than 2,000 voter registration forms filed in northern Indiana's Lake County by a liberal activist group this week have turned out to be bogus, election officials said Thursday.

Pretty bad when even CNN is reporting it.

re: #1 Celtic Templar

Holding onto my cash ;)

Hey, I got $13 in my wallet, hanging onto that.

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He is a lying sack of socialist shit to his man.

Who's man are you referring to, Obama's or Farrakhan's?

Both seem to have learned the Islam ideal of lying to the unbelievers stone cold.

re: #48 Sharmuta

Uh- they call Jesus the Messiah and believe he'll return.

Well, I'd be all for that if he'll bring his Terrible Swift Sword and go after the moneychangers in the Congress.

re: #101 jorline

There's an ACORN in that pile of sh!t.

Thousands of voter registration forms faked, officials say

Pretty bad when even CNN is reporting it.

Obama + ACORN = Vote fraud.

re: #94 SFGoth

Not to stir up trouble, but as a Jew I've always considered that Jews for Jesus makes more sense than Christianity, in the sense that Jews for Jesus would be what "it" would be like if Jews actually believed he were the Messiah. Instead, after his death, his followers essentially created a new religion.

The early Christians were the "Jews for Jesus" of their day. Since that time, Christianity has grown its own way, and Judaism has grown its own way.

To speak of "Jews for Jesus" today as making sense is akin to speaking of conservatives for Obama.

re: #93 rw in san diego

That's what a Sufi told me, anyways- that Jesus would return and correct koranic law and establish it worldwide.

I told him Jesus would return alright, and He was going to be pissed.

re: #104 Son of the Black Dog

Well, I'd be all for that if he'll bring his Terrible Swift Sword and go after the moneychangers in the Congress.

Off with their heads!

Obama's campaign met with some muslims and CAIR? Anybody got that info .... I just heard something on FOX about it ...of course they are denying it ....

Well, I for one am sitting astride my 401k, waving my cowboy hat and screaming "Yeehaw".