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Obama Campaign Met with Hamas and Hezbollah Supporters

Politics | Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:07:38 am PDT

The Obama campaign is trying to minimize the damage from a meeting attended by their “Muslim outreach director,” at which several notorious Hamas and Hezbollah supporters were present: Obama concedes mistake over Muslim outreach meeting.

The Obama campaign’s Muslim outreach director participated in a meeting in mid September that was attended by several controversial Muslim activists, NBC News has learned. The Obama campaign now concedes that was a misjudgment, and that its top Muslim staffer would not have attended the meeting if she had known the full participant list beforehand. “Would a campaign staffer have attended if they were aware of the complete list of attendees? No,” said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt in an email statement to NBC.

On September 15, newly named Muslim outreach director Minha Husaini spoke to a small group of Muslim leaders and potential Obama supporters at a hotel in Springfield, Virginia, several meeting participants and the campaign said. Two other Obama-affiliated Democratic Party workers joined Husaini and also spoke to the crowd. ...

One meeting attendee was Mahdi Bray of the Muslim American Society, several of the participants said. The MAS website describes Bray as an imam and “long time civil and human rights activist.” Bray’s critics say he has a history of defending terrorists. They point to a video of Bray at a rally in 2000, for example, in which he can be seen pumping his fist in the air in support of the terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah. In a 2004 interview, he called the Israeli assassination of a Hamas spiritual leader an “unlawful, cowardly and dangerous act of state-sponsored terrorism.” Bray did not return a call requesting comment.

Also attending the meeting was Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. CAIR is a Muslim-American civil rights group that has, as its website states, “consistently and persistently condemned terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians.” Nonetheless, the group has many critics, especially in law-enforcement circles, and is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing case.

In an interview on Thursday, CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said that CAIR has consistently condemned “every act of terrorism” by groups including Hamas and Hezbollah. But he would not answer whether CAIR condemns those designated terrorist groups themselves. “I’ve already answered your questions,” he said, and abruptly ended the interview. Nihad Awad, the executive director, did not return a call seeking comment.

And that’s not all. Also attending the meeting was the Obama campaign’s previous “Muslim outreach director,” who abruptly resigned in August when the Wall Street Journal exposed his ties to extremists.

A second meeting participant speaking on condition on anonymity said he was stunned to learn that Awad and Bray had been invited to an event where Obama representatives would be present. The participant said Awad and Bray are considered politically “radioactive.” He said that some in the Obama group knew ahead of time that top CAIR officials would be in attendance—an allegation the Obama campaign disputes.

“Yes, when I knew they were coming it made me uncomfortable,” the attendee said. “There was some hope it wouldn’t get out” into the media, the attendee added. “There was some concern within the Obama camp that some of these people coming may be a political liability.”

Chicago-based lawyer Mazen Asbahi also attended the meeting. He is the Obama campaign’s former Muslim outreach coordinator, who abruptly resigned in August after the Wall Street Journal and websites that track fundamentalist Islam began questioning Asbahi’s involvement in an Islamic investment fund and various Islamic groups. When reached by NBC News, Asbahi would not comment about the September gathering or his brief stint eight years ago on an investment fund board which also included a fundamentalist imam.

When informed that Asbahi had attended the recent meeting, an Obama spokesman said: “Mazen Asbahi resigned from his role as the campaign’s Muslim American outreach coordinator and was replaced—he is not an employee of the campaign and does not speak on behalf of the campaign.”

Also see:
Mere Rhetoric: Video: Obama Outreach Coordinator Meets With CAIR Reps, Terrorist-Endorsing Preachers (Plus: FBI Testimony Links CAIR To Terrorists)

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1 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:14am

Just saw that on FOX ....... of course the denying begins ..

2 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:43am

Meeting with co-conspirators funding terrorists should be nothing new to 0bama- he's worked with terrorists before, so it's like second nature.

3 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:43am

I read this this morning. It doesn't seem to include any NEW information than the story conveyed when it first came out. And, once again, it's not being covered by the MSM (no, I don't consider the WT to be mainstream, for a matter of fact, I sometimes question it all together)

4 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:10:18am

Yawn. What's up with the Troopergate scandal?

/msm

5 DoubleU  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:10:57am

There is so much Obama is completely unaware or ignorant about. He is either unfit to be President or an awful liar.

6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:00am

This suprises me in no way.

7 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:19am

This will need to be pushed on the blogs heavy so the msm will be forced to cover it ........

8 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:20am

Oh the SHOCK. . .more qualified meetings and statements. . .sarc sarc sarc

9 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:27am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

But the link is from msnbc.

There have been rumors that the msm love affair might be over. Maybe it is.

10 joncelli  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:36am

Israel will go under the bus shortly after Obambi is elected. If I were the PM of Israel I'd sort out my business with Iran and Hamas as soon as possible after November 4.

11 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:45am

re: #7 JacksonTn

This will need to be pushed on the blogs heavy so the msm will be forced to cover it ........

On my way now. . .

12 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:48am
13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:52am

Obama is certainly making a full court press for getting the "Death to America" voting block out.

14 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:08am

That's not the Mahdi Bray I knew.

15 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:11am

re: #2 Sharmuta
Hey Sharm - slightly OT I think, but I asked you a question on the prior thread, not knowing you'd come over here!
Do you know if ANY U.S. Attorney has filed charges against ACORN?!

16 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:21am

"Beware of the dark side"

17 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:31am

re: #10 joncelli

Israel will go under the bus shortly after Obambi is elected. If I were the PM of Israel I'd sort out my business with Iran and Hamas as soon as possible after November 4.


Totally and well, my fellow Jews will not care. . . since it is apparently SOOOOO 20th century to be a Zionist. . .

18 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:35am

Is Rush covering this? What about Drudge?......

19 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:47am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obama is certainly making a full court press for getting the "Death to America" voting block out.

Of course, he's got Ayers and Dohrn.

20 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:50am
The Obama campaign’s Muslim outreach director participated in a meeting in mid September that was attended by several controversial Muslim activists, NBC News has learned. The Obama campaign now concedes that was a misjudgment,

But up until this point, they lied, and we here a NBC News were fine with it.

21 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:06am

This is nothing. The Leftist meme is that Hamas and Hezbollah are Freedom Fighters. Like Ayers. Perfectly acceptable to meet with them, conservatives are racist to even mention this!

/every issue can be explained by saying 'conservatives are racist'

22 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:22am

re: #16 filetandrelease

"Beware of the dark side"

Is the dark side more powerful?

Quicker easier, more easily seduced by power. . .a true Jedi craves not these things. . .

23 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:23am

And, of course, 0bama is willing to meet with other Hamas and Hizballah supporters, like Ahmadinejad, without preconditions.

24 Desert Dog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:39am

Don't matter.....he could stomp a puppy to death and eat it raw during his 30 minute "infomerical" he has scheduled next week on the major networks and his poll numbers would still go up.

25 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:55am

re: #10 joncelli

Israel will go under the bus shortly after Obambi is elected. If I were the PM of Israel I'd sort out my business with Iran and Hamas as soon as possible after November 4.

It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings! oh wait......

26 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:14:03am

re: #12 buzzsawmonkey
Hi buzz! Why is that ("The Jews I know who are in the bag for Obama will refuse to listen to this in any way, shape or form.")?

27 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:14:09am

re: #21 shibumi

/every issue can be explained by saying 'conservatives are racist'

Yes.

28 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:14:17am

re: #24 Desert Dog

Don't matter.....he could stomp a puppy to death and eat it raw during his 30 minute "infomerical" he has scheduled next week on the major networks and his poll numbers would still go up.

Yeah, and the puppy would be to blame

29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:14:19am

I'm guessing Obama never read the part in the oath of office about all enemies, foreign and domestic.

30 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:14:19am
31 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:14:41am
32 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:14:45am

re: #15 realwest

I don't know, but with office raids already having gone down, I think charges might be forthcoming.

33 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:00am

re: #1 JacksonTn

Just saw that on FOX ....... of course the denying begins ..

.............and of course the stock answer.................

It's Racist

34 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:04am

[sarc ON] I don't see what the problem is. [OFF]
This is merely an example of meeting without preconditions.

If/when Obama meets with dinnerjacket, Chavez, the Castro brothers, etc, there will probably be lots of people he didn't expect.
Consider this on-the-job training.

35 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:10am

AND, he's against Gay Marriage.

36 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:12am

re: #9 Sharmuta

But the link is from msnbc.

There have been rumors that the msm love affair might be over. Maybe it is.

Nah. They just pretending not to be biased. You know, throwing the republican dog a bone.

37 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:20am

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

Liberals first; Jews second.

So sayith the Party. . .

38 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:34am

Great afternoon lizards,,I woke up this morning to see my good fellow countrymen are mad as hell about the O,,and i like it..Stay fired up..fight fight fight.

39 JustMyView  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:41am

re: #7 JacksonTn

This will need to be pushed on the blogs heavy so the msm will be forced to cover it ........

Um, did you notice that the source Charles cited was MSNBC?

40 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:41am

re: #35 Ben Hur

AND, he's against Gay Marriage.

That is SO under the bus soon. . .

41 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:13am
42 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:18am

Rush will have the Calypso Louie tape of him calling Obama the messiah later on.

43 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:19am

re: #34 jwb7605

[sarc ON] I don't see what the problem is. [OFF]
This is merely an example of meeting without preconditions.

If/when Obama meets with dinnerjacket, Chavez, the Castro brothers, etc, there will probably be lots of people he didn't expect.
Consider this on-the-job training.

Yeah, I know a bunch of liberals that would totally agree with this.

/wish I was being sarcastic.

44 SagamoreGal  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:26am

Charles, pssst - it's a little bit racist of you, darling, to even mention this connection in writing.

/spoken in my best Kathleen Parker voice. Or maybe it's my Sally Quinn voice. Better yet, it's my Campbell Brown voice.

45 loveguru  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:31am

Ah, i decided to help left extrimist...

Yes, i am moving from Islamophobia to obamophobia.... ;)

46 NoSubmission  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:38am

Judgement to lead.
/

47 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:41am

re: #43 shibumi

Yeah, I know a bunch of liberals that would totally agree with this.

/wish I was being sarcastic.

me too.

48 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:02am

Minha Huseini is among a Who's Who of young RoPers working for mostly Dem and lefty causes.

49 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:04am

re: #22 DisturbedEma

Is the dark side more powerful?

Quicker easier, more easily seduced by power. . .a true Jedi craves not these things. . .

But letting your anger go - like 0bama said in his racism speech - can be very powerful. Especially when you have a lot of people to riot.

50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:18am

4,000 dead voters in Houston

"All-in-all, a great person, a great woman, just a wonderful person" is how Alexis Guidry described her mother to Local 2 Investigates.

"As far back as I can remember, they've always voted in the election," Guidry said of her parents.

The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis' mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home.

"It was just very shocking, a little unsettling," said Alexis Guidry.

It's unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary.

51 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:46am

re: #24 Desert Dog
Hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, my friend, but according to Fox and Friends this morning, Obama has purchased TWO thirty minute time blocks on TV.
Thereby putting the final nail in the coffin of Political Campaign Finance Reform and Public Funding.
All ya gotta do is get a bunch of wealthy, terrorist supporting states to contribute tens of millions of dollars to your campaign and, as did Obama, you can then renege on your promise to take Public Funding and voila - you get your 30 minute infomercials.

52 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:07am

re: #36 shibumi

Nah. They just pretending not to be biased. You know, throwing the republican dog a bone.

................what Chris Mathews is not having a leg tingle anymore, does not want to have Barry's child.........(SARC)

Olberman, and Barry are having a falling out too.

God, the sky is falling

53 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:08am

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

4,000 dead voters in Houston

LOL! Good luck stealing Texas, ACORN.

54 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:11am

(Director reaching out from under bus)
Vrrrrrrooooooooommmmmm!
*voice calls out ... "NEXT"*

/cue new Outreach Director leaping from phone booth, making same mistake

55 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:15am

re: #40 DisturbedEma

That is SO under the bus soon. . .

I told someone with a lot of gay friends (and a Barry supporter) that I wasn't voting for HIM because he was against gay marriage.

She was not amused.

56 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:15am

re: #39 JustMyView

Um, did you notice that the source Charles cited was MSNBC?

Just because it was reported once is not enough ........ it needs to get strong coverage everywhere ......... we are all focused on the stock market right now .....the market is a huge problem........ but Islamist terrorists are a HUGE problem ..... all media should report this

57 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:22am

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

4,000 dead voters in Houston

There's where McKinney's dead people from New Orleans went.

58 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:34am

"I was only 47 years, 1 month old when that meeting took place. I am now 47 years and 2 months. I cam't be responsible for what some orginization did that long ago"

geeezz ,, I scare myself

59 SagamoreGal  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:44am

Is he a Manchurian Candidate or a Trojan Horse?

Or a Manchurian Trojan?

60 Russkilitlover  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:03am
“There was some concern within the Obama camp that some of these people coming may be a political liability.”/blockquote>

This is what concerns the Obama campaign. That their presence would be a "political liability," not that it would be flat out wrong to cavort with terrrorists......oh, wait.

61 BingoBunny  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:06am

Wait those terrorists just live in Obamma's neighborhood.. and he was only 8 when they were terrorists.. and haven't they reformed.. and didn't they get elected in a democratic election.. and wasn't Obamma against the election.. and besides they don't give that many millions of dollars to his campaign.

62 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:11am

re: #59 SagamoreGal

Is he a Manchurian Candidate or a Trojan Horse?

Or a Manchurian Trojan?

Ribbed Trojan.

63 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:25am

re: #59 SagamoreGal

Is he a Manchurian Candidate or a Trojan Horse?

Or a Manchurian Trojan?

Trojan Manchurian.

64 opnion  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:45am

Obama wrote words to the effect that if the politics broke bad that he would stand with the Muslims.
This guy is still half a Muslim. You do not have a Muslim father, a Muslim stepfather that you attended mosque with, and you do not take Koranic instruction in school & have no residual feelings.
Also if you have a flat out Muslim name as a child seeking your identity, you might conclude , hey I'm a Muslim.

65 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:48am

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

4,000 dead voters in Houston

And the Government will get around to finishing their investigation of this sometime in mid '10, after Teleprompter Jesus has been crowned Lord Emperor of United Socialist America.

66 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:49am

re: #58 sattv4u2

"I was only 47 years, 1 month old when that meeting took place. I am now 47 years and 2 months. I cam't be responsible for what some orginization did that long ago"

geeezz ,, I scare myself

It's scaring me too.

67 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:50am

Not enough Americans give a rat's ass. Hell, half of Americans prolly don't even know what the hell Hezbollah or Hamas is. Unfortunately, Obama is successfully riding a wave of ignorance and apathy.

68 rahmanager  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:54am

Did anyone else notice the "Messiah is talking" comments from Farrakhan this morning? [Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

69 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:56am

re: #53 Sharmuta

LOL! Good luck stealing Texas, ACORN.

They were executed, and their bodies dumped during Hurricane Katrina!

/cynthia mckinney

70 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:00am

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey
Ah, so being jewish is secondary (as is the defense of Israel if you are a leftist; I don't use the term "liberal" anymore as it clearly doesn't apply to anyone remaining on the political spectrum anymore).

71 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:04am

re: #57 Honorary Yooper

There's where McKinney's dead people from New Orleans went.

Must sign him up

72 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:07am

re: #62 jwb7605

Ribbed Trojan.

Obama is a bit rubbery, IMHO. Stretches the truth when he feels it necessary.

73 NoSubmission  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:16am

Remember, Obama was only 43 years old by the time he'd been sitting in the front pew of Rev. Wright's 'church' for 20 years.

Nothing to see here... move along..

74 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:18am

re: #53 Sharmuta

LOL! Good luck stealing Texas, ACORN.

I heard that.My state,,my country,,Acorn will rot in the ground here.

75 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:23am

re: #67 Cartman

Not enough Americans give a rat's ass. Hell, half of Americans prolly don't even know what the hell Hezbollah or Hamas is. Unfortunately, Obama is successfully riding a wave of ignorance and apathy.

Morons for Obama!

76 RickZ  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:24am

Lovely story. No legs.

/MSM

77 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:31am

I wonder if people people really think he is going to be different as president?

78 joncelli  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:37am

re: #59 SagamoreGal

Trojurian horse! (Genetic engineering gone wild!)

79 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:48am
80 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:58am

Calling all terrorists!

Come to North Carolina if you want to vote in the national election several times.

It was just announced today in NC that you no longer need a social security number to vote, just a drivers license number. It makes it easier on their fact checking computer data base.
The programmer must be a f#cking democrat?

/Remember, several of the 9/11 hijackers had NC drivers license.

81 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:01am

re: #76 RickZ

Uh- this is from msnbc, surprisingly enough.

82 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:08am

re: #59 SagamoreGal

Is he a Manchurian Candidate or a Trojan Horse?

Or a Manchurian Trojan?

how about passing the time with a little game of Solitare, Barry?

83 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:12am

re: #72 Honorary Yooper

Obama is a bit rubbery, IMHO. Stretches the truth when he feels it necessary.

And has a disgusting latex smell.

84 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:16am

re: #32 Sharmuta
RATS! I thought I saw a post on the early part of the Dead Thread that said someone had indeed indicted ACORN.
What a shame that they haven't yet.

85 mattm  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:19am

I'm sure the MS will get right on this.

/sarc

(was that really needed)

86 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:24am

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm guessing Obama never read the part in the oath of office about all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Doesn't matter to him. He has his own definition of "enemies", and, OF COURSE, he's "always right".

87 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:25am

re: #49 Kosh's Shadow

But letting your anger go - like 0bama said in his racism speech - can be very powerful. Especially when you have a lot of people to riot.

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

88 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:36am

re: #82 smokefire

how about passing the time with a little game of Solitare, Barry?

I'll beat him at Twister, that's for sure.

89 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:40am

re: #39 JustMyView

Um, did you notice that the source Charles cited was MSNBC?

Even a blind squirrel (PMSNBC) finds a nut, every now and then.

90 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:41am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

I read this this morning. It doesn't seem to include any NEW information than the story conveyed when it first came out. And, once again, it's not being covered by the MSM (no, I don't consider the WT to be mainstream, for a matter of fact, I sometimes question it all together)

Oops, boy did I space out. I was reading a Washingtimes article in another tab, saw this on LGF and confused what the heck I was posting about.

I got to start drinking again. I never made these mistakes when I was drunk.

91 NoSubmission  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:42am

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
A co-worker of mine couldn't understand why Obama's 20 years in a racist church was such big deal to me...

92 alien_mind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:03am

"thats not the Minha Husaini I knew"

"he was just a guy from the neighborhood"

93 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:14am

re: #84 realwest

I don't know- perhaps there have been charges filed. I've been busy, so I'm not up to speed on any new developments. Let me go looking.

94 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:22am

re: #77 DeafDog

I wonder if people people really think he is going to be different as president?

I KNOW he'll be different. He'll be WORSE than he is NOW

95 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:25am
96 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:28am

re: #86 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Doesn't matter to him. He has his own definition of "enemies", and, OF COURSE, he's "always right".

Really? I am too.

97 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:29am

re: #64 opnion

Obama wrote words to the effect that if the politics broke bad that he would stand with the Muslims.
This guy is still half a Muslim. You do not have a Muslim father, a Muslim stepfather that you attended mosque with, and you do not take Koranic instruction in school & have no residual feelings.
Also if you have a flat out Muslim name as a child seeking your identity, you might conclude , hey I'm a Muslim.

Don't forget his infamous "my Muslim faith" comment. That was quite the Freudian slip that I, as a lifelong Catholic, could never EVER imagine making.

Disclaimer:
Actually dislike Teleprompter Jesus for a multitude of reasons, just mentioning the Muslim thing in passing.

98 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:52am

re: #41 buzzsawmonkey
LOL! What kinda response didja get to that one?

99 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:23:16am

re: #92 alien_mind

"thats not the Minha Husaini I knew"

He was just a regular Minha Husaini.

100 RickZ  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:23:23am

re: #5 DoubleU

There is so much Obama is completely unaware or ignorant about. He is either unfit to be President or an awful liar.

Why 'either ... or'? Why not both?

101 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:23:38am
102 NoSubmission  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:23:49am
“Yes, when I knew they were coming it made me uncomfortable,” the attendee said. “There was some hope it wouldn’t get out” into the media, the attendee added. “There was some concern within the Obama camp that some of these people coming may be a political liability.”

HOPE!

103 calvin coolidge  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:00am

ACORN met with Hamas and Hezbollah last week and got all the ballots done.

104 sadhu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:06am

It would best for the country if Obama were indicted early next week.

105 joncelli  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:16am

Actually, the market has stabilized; trending back up now. Maybe we finally found the bottom?

106 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:33am

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

107 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:35am

re: #100 RickZ

Why 'either ... or'? Why not both?

He's also unfit to be a liar and would be an awful president.

108 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:54am

re: #103 calvin coolidge

ACORN met with Hamas and Hezbollah last week and got all the ballots done.

.............WHAT without any work accidents. Impossible

109 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:57am

Farrakhan speaks,,and just pisses off good people,,so speak on louie,

110 nils2en  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:06am

Obama IS Muslim! No if's and's or but's about it!

111 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:07am

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
Good work.

112 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:08am

re: #86 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Doesn't matter to him. He has his own definition of "enemies", and, OF COURSE, he's "always right".

He's a narcissist. That's terrifying.
Narcissism Traits

113 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:13am

Every day there is something new with this guy. God, I hope there is enough time for the voters to get ALL the info and UNDERSTAND it...

114 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:18am

It's amazing, but this guy is going to be elected based on his ability to give a good speech. It's dumbfounding.

115 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:21am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

in a word ,, yes

116 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:34am

re: #4 Ward Cleaver

Yawn. What's up with the Troopergate scandal?

/msm

Yeah, Troopergate is IMPORTANT NEWS.
Associating with domestic terrorists and Muslim extremists, not so much.

117 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:38am

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) WHOA Kragar, from your link:

"Texas Watchdog compared Harris County's voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches -- registered voters that, it appears, are already dead."[emphasis added, realwest]

118 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:42am

re: #62 jwb7605

Ribbed Trojan.

that could include an American shaft.

119 Kenneth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:44am

My leg is tingling while I wait for the "That's not the Hamas or Hezbollah I knew..." explanation from Obama.

120 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:44am

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

121 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:46am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION?

Ask the pollsters.

122 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:56am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

He hasnt won a thing. He doesnt have some huge lead in the polls. The American people arent stupid and they will not allow this guy to run the country.
He is going down...

123 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:57am

re: #68 rahmanager

Did anyone else notice the "Messiah is talking" comments from Farrakhan this morning? [Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Rush is talking big about it right now.

124 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:04am

Video on Ayers ..... From Ace:

125 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:08am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

............you can fool some of the people some of the time

but in this case it is

He is fooling most of the people all of the time.

126 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:13am

re: #55 Ben Hur

I told someone with a lot of gay friends (and a Barry supporter) that I wasn't voting for HIM because he was against gay marriage.

She was not amused.

Snicker. . .but he is so good at everything else, and the mater of waffling on gay marriage is. . .no . . .big. . .deal. . .

127 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:32am

re: #114 DeafDog

It's amazing, but this guy is going to be elected based on his ability to give a good speech. WHITE QUILT. It's dumbfounding.


fixed that for ya

128 rudi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:38am

Obama pals around with Ayers, an unapologetic domestic terrorist.

As we speak, Obama engages in "outreach" to unapologetic and ACTIVE domestic and international terrorists.

Isn't there a crushing campaign issue and ad for seizing by the McCain campaign.

Alas, McCain says "it's not about 2 washed up old terrorists."

Then why the hell question Obama's connection with them in the first place?

Somedays I think McCain actually wants to lose.

129 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:40am

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

I've had people blithely dismiss the Ayers connection too.


He was only 8. . .OMG!

130 Florida Lady  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:41am

re: #89 Cartman

Even a blind squirrel (PMSNBC) finds a nut, every now and then.

or an acorn . . .

131 Desert Dog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:42am

re: #51 realwest

You are right. Get ready for a campaign to end all campaigns in 2012. The Republicans will have to follow suit. McCain should have done the same, but there's no telling where the money would have come from.

I am certain he will activate the Obama-Hypno-Ray and convince some more weak minded lemmings to vote for him with those "infomercials".

But, let's put things in perspective - it is much more important that Obama gets elected than it is to attempt to keep undo influence out of Presidential politics. Who cares if you can now buy the Presidency....all that really matters is Barack Hussein Obama gets elected. Right? I mean, the ends justify the means...... (do I need the sarc tag?)

132 NoSubmission  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:52am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

I heard last night that a cat named Stuart was registered to vote in Ohio.

133 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:55am
134 turn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:58am

I hope there is time for the McCain camp to get traction on this. I envision another Ayres type video only this time with his muslim terroist associates.

BTW this book is spot on, if you think there is no conncetion between the left and Islam (probably preaching to 99% of the choir here but what the hey - I first heard about it here)
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

135 sadhu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:59am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

WOW is right!

Indict Obama now.

136 nyc redneck  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:07am

there is so much bad sh*t on the wall now abt. this grifter.
and it is all sticking. it is so ugly. it reeks.
surely the smell will start alerting people.
and now farrahkan calls him the messiah.
it is beyond crazy that the grifter is this close.

137 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:17am
138 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:26am

re: #128 rudi

Obama pals around with Ayers, an unapologetic domestic terrorist.

As we speak, Obama engages in "outreach" to unapologetic and ACTIVE domestic and international terrorists.

We have to start forcing terrorists to apologize for their despicable acts.

139 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:28am

re: #94 sattv4u2

I KNOW he'll be different. He'll be WORSE than he is NOW

Yes, because once he's elected, he won't have to pretend to support Israel. He'll go all out accepting UN resolutions against Israel, probably cutting off aid until there is a Paliterrorist state or two (Fatahistan and Hamasistan), etc.

At the last debate, I didn't get the feeling he really was supporting Israel, but he was saying the words while thinking "I want the Jewish vote".

McCain, on the other hand, was enthusiastic.

140 Iron Fist  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:30am

re: #35 Ben Hur

There goes the Andrew Sullivan vote.

141 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:47am

re: #137 buzzsawmonkey

Look at this election, people--and let nobody ever again ask how the Germans could elect Handsome Adolph, or how the German Jews could fool themselves that everything would turn out all right.

Handsome?

142 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:57am

re: #132 NoSubmission

I heard last night that a DEAD cat named Stuart was registered to vote in Ohio.


:)

143 Leftfoot Leeds  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:59am

Mr. 57 stater Barry O. Will help the Islamic Fascists in any way he can. He already supposedly said he would side with them if push came to shove. If you have not heard of Act For America you should check out the site at www.actforamerica.org
Hi Sharmuta, How da hell ya been?

144 Desert Dog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:06am

re: #132 NoSubmission

I heard last night that a cat named Stuart was registered to vote in Ohio.

My cat would never vote for Obama, even if he promised free catnip

145 rw in san diego  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:09am

But, uh, you have to, uh, talk to these people and I will, uh, talk to uh, them, uh.

/

146 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:11am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

When did it suddenly become November 5th? Last I looked, the election hasn't happened yet.

147 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:15am

re: #137 buzzsawmonkey

Look at this election, people--and let nobody ever again ask how the Germans could elect Handsome Adolph, or how the German Jews could fool themselves that everything would turn out all right.

You got dinged up. Very observant.

148 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:18am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Good catch!

149 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:28am

re: #137 buzzsawmonkey

and let nobody ever again ask how the Germans could elect Handsome Adolph

I don't actually think he was all that handsome.

(But "he vas a better dancer zen Churchill")

150 joncelli  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:34am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Better be backed by lots of evidence and Fitzgerald had better announce it LOUDLY to get through the MSM filters.

151 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:36am

re: #143 Leftfoot Leeds

Mr. 57 stater Barry O. Will help the Islamic Fascists in any way he can. He already supposedly said he would side with them if push came to shove. If you have not heard of Act For America you should check out the site at www.actforamerica.org
Hi Sharmuta, How da hell ya been?

As long as they restrict their attacks to states 50 through 57 it will be fine.

152 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:39am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

no,

just thrown under the bus.

153 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:46am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

The big questions are

Will there be enough time?
Will it make it to court before or after the election?

154 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:01am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

1. Bush fatigue. Bush (and his repubican co-conspirators in congress) deserve plenty of the blame for allowing the Federal deficit to get so high. The line that 'Clinton left a surplus' is politically powerful.

2. Yes.

155 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:03am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

I wonder if he really is, or if the MSM just wants everyone to believe he is.
Then come the riots that he stole the votes.
We live in interesting times.

156 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:03am

re: #135 sadhu

WOW is right!

Indict Obama now.

pLEASE PLEASE please!

157 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:10am

re: #74 Oldasdirt
Um, well y'all better get cracking in "your state" - read Kragar's link or my #117.

158 Charles  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:20am

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.

159 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:25am

re: #122 Wishing

He hasnt won a thing. He doesnt have some huge lead in the polls. The American people arent stupid and they will not allow this guy to run the country.
He is going down...

from your mouth to God's ears

160 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:27am
161 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:41am
162 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:46am

re: #138 Edgar

We have to start forcing terrorists to apologize for their despicable acts.


And get them to admit that their victims are to blame, Wright? sarc

163 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:52am

re: #117 realwest

WHOA Kragar, from your link:

"Texas Watchdog compared Harris County's voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches -- registered voters that, it appears, are already dead."[emphasis added, realwest]

They're just resting.
Pining for the fjords.

164 opnion  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:53am

There was some Obama babe from Chicago on FNC this morning.
Get this, she claimed that the McCain speech at the Wisconsin rallly was, get this "Political" She then went on to say that BHO puts country first.
That's right . the terrorist huggin, anti Amwerican racist , puts country fiirst, not war hero McCain.
I would challenge any of them to find one pro American statement from BHO, before he started running for President.

165 gman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:05am

If Obama is elected, these freaks are going to be coming out of the woodworks to meet with him and it won't be considered a "mistake". It will be called "firm diplomacy".

166 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:06am

re: #159 smokefire

from your mouth to God's ears

Ditto

167 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:12am
168 NoSubmission  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:22am

re: #144 Desert Dog

My cat would never vote for Obama, even if he promised free catnip


I actually have a dog named Stuart and I can tell you that he's voting McCain.

169 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:32am

So which other religions get "outreach directors" on the Obama campaign? Anyone?

170 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:35am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

The irony is that this link comes from people who buy into Hillary's land and cattle investment deals.

171 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:53am

re: #127 sattv4u2

fixed that for ya

He knits?

:-) - Sorry. Coudn't resist.

172 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:59am

re: #158 Charles

They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them?

They believed in moral relativity, a new form of pseudoscience.

173 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:12am

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

They reject the idea that Ayers--or Wright, or Khalidi, or any of Obama's other fundamental political connections--could ever have any influence over him.

Madness.

Sheer and utter. . .for sure

174 Kenneth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:24am

re: #106 cblesz

Most of the media is not covering any of this stuff. Remember the speech McCain gave in New Mexico a few days ago? It was mostly about the economy and how Obama & the Democrats created the financial meltdown. The media turned around and wrote, "Seeking to avoid the damaging issue of the economy, an unstable McCain went negative and launched an angry personal attack on the godlike Obama."

Unfortunately, many Americans refuse to listen to any news source outside their liberal comfort zone.

175 debutaunt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:28am

re: #9 Sharmuta

But the link is from msnbc.

There have been rumors that the msm love affair might be over. Maybe it is.

Must be more going on than a stinky airplane.

176 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:33am

October surprise: The One indicted?

177 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:33am

re: #80 ibmkeyboard
Hey my friend - well when Mom and I moved back down to NC in 2006, we had to present proof of citizenship (or social security card) to get drivers license - or in my case a pedestrian's license!) so maybe it's not quite that bad?!

178 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:36am

re: #129 DisturbedEma

He was only 8. . .OMG!

I was only 16 when Manson had his surrogates kill Tate and LoBianco. I think I'll see if Charles (Manson) will help me kick off my political carreer

179 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:54am

Sorry for the OT and if the story is a repost, BUT

Berlusconi Says Leaders May Close World's Markets (Update1)

Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said political leaders are discussing the idea of closing the world's financial markets while they ``rewrite the rules of international finance.''

180 FloridaAnole  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:55am

Holy crap, some friends this guy Obama has! Ayers and Dohrn, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, now a bunch of Islamic terrorists.

(Noticed that Krauthammer is now expressing some reservations about Bambi's friendship with Ayers and other associations, while seeming to imply, regretfully, that Bambi is as good as elected. No thanks to him, I might add, as he was the first conservative to join the wolf pack baying after Sarah Palin.

181 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:09am

re: #161 taxfreekiller

Charles,
Re: Edgar

We here at lgf's are at work attempting to save America from great harm,
just could be we do not need Edgar's bull shit getting in the way.

just my opinion

out in the open for all to see

Everybody ding TFK #161 up.
Let Charles take the voting count.
(ACORN not involved, here!)

182 Edgar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:16am

re: #161 taxfreekiller

Charles,
Re: Edgar

We here at lgf's are at work attempting to save America from great harm,
just could be we do not need Edgar's bull shit getting in the way.

just my opinion

I guess Edgar's opinion must be silenced, then.

183 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:40am

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

"Handsome Adolph" was an ironic reference to Hitler back in the early '30s.

Is he anything like Handsome Pete?

184 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:59am

re: #93 Sharmuta
"Let me go looking."
Thanks a lot Sharm!

185 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:00am

re: #171 DeafDog

He knits?

:-) - Sorry. Coudn't resist.

no problem , it would have had better impact if I FUCKIN SPELLED IT RIGHT! ''


gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

186 FloridaAnole  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:01am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

Because the People think this is American Idol, and Bambi is the best performer.

187 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:09am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.

Charles don't they still think that the earth is flat?

If you have to ask, Charles.

188 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:29am
189 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:57am

re: #176 newsjunkie_ky

October surprise: The One indicted?

If so... Excellent.

190 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:06am

re: #110 nils2en
And your proof of that claim is ?!

191 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:19am

re: #182 Edgar

I guess Edgar's opinion must be silenced, then.

There's a difference between trolling and an honest opinion.
Most of us have seen your flashy lure, and scroll right past it.

192 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:21am

More rumors-

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

God bless the PUMAs!

193 pat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:30am

There were no preconditions to the meeting?

194 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:32am

re: #172 Edgar

They believed in moral relativity, a new form of pseudoscience.

Actually it is used quite liberally by Wright, Farrakhan, and their ilk. . .when in Rome, use Roman rules of behavior. . .

problem is, with this set in place to absolve things like 9-11. . .their culture SAID they could attack. . .you then give the green light to things like civilian deaths in Iraq. . .you know, since the Iraqis kill women and children in war.. . .we then cannot be condemning the US. . .oh, WAIT, we are held to a higher standard of behavior, right?

You cannot have it both ways in this situation- either all against all or western civ ROE. . .

195 obscured by clouds  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:39am

Obama "reaches out" alright - to terrorists and the enemies of this country. God help us all if this Manchurian, fifth column, candidate gets elected.

196 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:44am
197 shibumi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:45am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Posted this in the links Sharmuta, and gave you credit. : )

198 R_DaneelOlivaw  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:52am

His terrorist connections are to worrying. He shouldn't be running for President at all. The Democratic party really have switched far left.

199 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:17am

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

"Handsome Adolph" was an ironic reference to Hitler back in the early '30s.

It'd work today, too.

200 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:17am

re: #178 sattv4u2

I was only 16 when Manson had his surrogates kill Tate and LoBianco. I think I'll see if Charles (Manson) will help me kick off my political carreer


shudder

201 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:19am

Gazing upon masochistic self-righteousness

202 Iron Fist  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:20am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

They want to believe. It's that willing suspension of disbelief that Plousie was talking about.

203 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:24am

re: #176 newsjunkie_ky

October surprise: The One indicted?

Could very well be. Depends on how Tony sings, and if Rod is involved.

204 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:26am

Manchurian-American.

Please, people.

205 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:31am

re: #176 newsjunkie_ky

October surprise: The One indicted?

That would, ah, maybe be too much of a good thing. So to speak.

Please take a moment to imagine the reaction.

I would prefer to just see the sucker lose the election, thanks.

206 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:39am

re: #189 shibumi

If so... Excellent.

damn, I would even take this over Chris Dodd being led out in bracelets.

207 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:40am
He bought that town house sometime between 1997-2000 or so, since he lived there for a few years before trading up to the Obama Mansion with Rezko’s help in 2005, after he was in the United States Senate. And it looks like the payback was not given to the Giannoulias family until 2006, with Obama’s endorsement of Alexi Giannoulias for State Treasurer.


Too bad it will be after the election.
Being arrested during a debate might turn the voters against Obama.

Unless they forget to read him his rights.

/Racists

208 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:49am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.

They don't want to upset their base?

209 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:54am
210 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:02am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

As much as I want to believe it, I think it's too juicy. Even if it is true, if federal prosecuters were to lay charges on Obama their would be riots like we've never seen before. That will not happen based on Rezko testimony alone. They would need to have a direct paper trail to bring charges.

211 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:21am

re: #186 FloridaAnole


Can you please tell me the correct way to pronounce your nic?

Thanks.

212 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:27am

re: #192 Sharmuta

More rumors-

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

God bless the PUMAs!

/not to get carried away or anything, but the enemy of my enemy is not by default my friend.

213 turn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:48am

LGF lesson learned long ago, don't feed the trolls.re: #148 shibumi

Good catch!

Wow, no s%^$!. What an October surprise that would be, don't have a lot of respect for Fitzgerald after the Plame investigation though. Then again, maybe he can dog this one out too and nail the O.

OT LGF lesson learned long ago, please don't feed the trolls.

214 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:51am

re: #210 DeafDog

As much as I want to believe it, I think it's too juicy. Even if it is true, if federal prosecuters were to lay charges on Obama their would be riots like we've never seen before. That will not happen based on Rezko testimony alone. They would need to have a direct paper trail to bring charges.

There has to be SOMETHING

215 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:22am

re: #210 DeafDog

Sounds to me like Hillbuzz doesn't think it will happen before the election re: rezco. However- the PUMAs working with the RNC is very interesting.

216 turn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:29am

re: #213 turn


Wow how did you f%^$ that post up?

217 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:37am

re: #197 shibumi

Posted this in the links Sharmuta, and gave you credit. : )


How reputable is this? (Before I get a chubby)...

218 opnion  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:47am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.


Honor among terrorists?

219 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:54am

re: #179 jorline

Sorry for the OT and if the story is a repost, BUT

Berlusconi Says Leaders May Close World's Markets (Update1)

Wow.

This does not make me feel any better.

220 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:01am

re: #212 maddogg

/not to get carried away or anything, but the enemy of my enemy is not by default my friend.

I know- but sometimes they're a good temporary ally.

221 JustMyView  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:08am

re: #169 Occasional Reader

So which other religions get "outreach directors" on the Obama campaign? Anyone?

Pretty much all of them. Well, at least he has outreach efforts toward pretty much all religious groups, so I assume those efforts have directors.

222 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:16am

re: #218 opnion

Honor among terrorists?

Party Loyalty. . .?

223 Athos  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:22am

re: #182 Edgar

I guess Edgar's opinion must be silenced, then.

I would venture to say that most have you in scroll over country anyhow - and that is purely because of your own doing. Just what are you contributing except reinforcing those opinions?

224 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:46am

re: #137 buzzsawmonkey

Look at this election, people--and let nobody ever again ask how the Germans could elect Handsome Adolph, or how the German Jews could fool themselves that everything would turn out all right.

Both men had/have the messianic fervor of their supporters down pat. It sure is a chilling comparison and contrast.

225 Athos  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:02am

re: #208 Sharmuta

They don't want to upset their base?

Ding Ding Ding

226 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:05am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look.

They have a reasonable belief that they can get away with it. I am sorry to say.

227 Equable  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:07am

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

228 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:19am

re: #212 maddogg

/not to get carried away or anything, but the enemy of my enemy is not by default my friend.

Their reasons for voting for McCain are different from ours, agreed. But they MAY offset the fraudulent stuff ACORN has set in motion for the genral election.
I think there are about 7 million PUMA's...(I read that somewhere, sorry, no link)

229 debutaunt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:21am

re: #69 Ward Cleaver

They were executed, and their bodies dumped during Hurricane Katrina!

/cynthia mckinney

MSNBC link?

230 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:24am

re: #221 JustMyView

Pretty much all of them. Well, at least he has outreach efforts toward pretty much all religious groups, so I assume those efforts have directors.

His Obamatrons put an ad in the Jewish paper wishing us a 'happy New Year"

Bet he meant something more along the lines of . . .last year in Jerusalem?

231 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:36am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.

They know the Obmanation is on its way!

/ coming out of a well,
or sewer?

232 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:40am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.


In fairness to CAIR, ever sence the Fwench and AMericans kicked hezbollah out of Lebennon, they have been responsible members of the world community.....Joe Biden.

233 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:49am

re: #226 Occasional Reader

They have a reasonable belief that they can get away with it. I am sorry to say.

Because they do

234 Alouette  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:52am

re: #188 buzzsawmonkey

Yesterday it occurred to me how many times during Vidui we must repent for "silly speech." I really must not use the "F" word on LGF.

235 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:58am

re: #140 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - long time no chat! If you can, please drop me an e-mail, ok?!

236 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:30am

re: #158 Charles

They CAN'T put them down, their allegience is to the same forces-this is the ONLY thing they are honest about.

They couldn't care less 'how it makes them look'.

237 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:25am
238 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:25am

re: #231 ibmkeyboard

They know the Obmanation is on its way!

/ coming out of a well,
or sewer?

A one holy outhouse.

239 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:39am

re: #226 Occasional Reader

Like I just said-it's the only thing they can't lie about. In their hearts, they are kindred spirits. So they just dance around, with standard words about 'condemning ALL' acts of terrorism, blah blah.

240 RickZ  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:39am

re: #81 Sharmuta

Uh- this is from msnbc, surprisingly enough.

In my defense, I did say 'legs', and I think we all know what that means in the 24 hour news/infotainment cycle. I just think it's a 'random act of journalism', going nowhere. But who knows? Maybe Obama is so corrupt that some intrepid reporter wants a Pullitzer for digging despite the stench.

241 doppelganglander  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:41am

re: #153 smokefire

The big questions are

Will there be enough time?
Will it make it to court before or after the election?

It doesn't really matter if the indictments happen before the election, although of course that would be preferable. Merely announcing the investigation and tying Obama's name to it might be enough.

Incidentally, my husband swears he heard an official in Indianapolis (proud home of 105% voter registration) say that he was well aware ACORN was behind it and Obama is behind ACORN, and he would proceed accordingly. If anyone has more information, that would be great.

242 Iron Fist  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:43am

re: #235 realwest

K. Tempus does fugit, doesn't it?

243 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:58am

I'm thinking I should do my economic duty this weekend and buy some American-made products. Maybe this.

244 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:59am

re: #210 DeafDog

As much as I want to believe it, I think it's too juicy. Even if it is true, if federal prosecuters were to lay charges on Obama their would be riots like we've never seen before. That will not happen based on Rezko testimony alone. They would need to have a direct paper trail to bring charges.

So? Are we to be intimated? No, I will not be intimated .....

245 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:07am

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

You and I are on the same wavelength on this.

246 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:12am

re: #153 smokefire
Doesn't have to make it to court before the election, just indicting Obama would do the trick. Course, if he doesn't get it into court before January 20th and if Obama is elected, Patrick will simply disappear down the memory hole of US prosecutors.

247 turn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:33am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.


Dr. Sanity talked about their shame based religion and society (cough - cough), loosing face may be far worse to them than appearing guilty. Just guessing.

248 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:34am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.


They can condemn "terrorism" loudly, because no one will challenge them on what their definition of "terrorism" is.

They won't condemn Hezbollah and SAMAH, because they don't see them as terror orgs.

Very similar to the Palis condemning terrorism against civilians "on both sides...."

249 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:38am

re: #236 WriterMom

They CAN'T put them down, their allegiance is to the same forces-this is the ONLY thing they are honest about.

They couldn't care less 'how it makes them look'.

..............because it is us, the unbeliever's the non-Muslims that need the reeducating or executing.

SARC

250 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:53am

re: #215 Sharmuta

Sounds to me like Hillbuzz doesn't think it will happen before the election re: rezco. However- the PUMAs working with the RNC is very interesting.

a woman scorned ......... Hell to Pay

251 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:56am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

No, they've gone ignorant.

252 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:05am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Rezco singing,,music to my ears!

253 Athos  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:35am

re: #232 DeafDog

I am still shocked about that huge gaffe getting next to no attention.....and it came from the supposed foreign policy expert on that ticket.

254 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:36am

re: #182 Edgar

I guess Edgar's opinion must be silenced, then.

I don't silence your opinion, I just flat-out ignore it.

255 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:41am

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

One of the fascinating things about even pathological liars is that they tend to shrink from telling a complete untruth. They will talk around the truth; they will construct and demolish strawmen, as Obama did in his recent statement on Ayers; they will concoct lengthy preliminary or ex post facto explanations which are designed to obscure the truth or justify it; but they flinch, more often than not, from telling direct, flat-out falsehoods.

One of the easiest, fastest, and best ways that you can determine someone is lying is if he provides, unbidden, an answer to a question you have not asked. This is true in personal relationships--as in when a partner comes in past their usual time and, unbidden, launches into a lengthy explanation of where they were, what the traffic problems were, etc., etc. --as much as in politics. What the Unbidden Explainer is doing is concocting an alibi, and verbalizing it in a pre-emptive attempt not only to forestall questions, but to find the weaknesses in the story for future emendation, and to fix the talking points of the falsehood in mind.

That's it.

I'm calling my wife!

CAIR's representatives run true to type in this. They hesitate to tell an out and out falsehood, for an out and out falsehood can be disproven. Far better to prevaricate with stories that provide endless wiggle room.

256 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:46am

re: #214 DisturbedEma

Something would not do it. Obama's basically untouchable at this point...even more so than the Clintons with whitewater.

257 turn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:56am

re: #161 taxfreekiller


You have five dings up so far on that TFK, mine being the latest.

258 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:00am

re: #215 Sharmuta

Sounds to me like Hillbuzz doesn't think it will happen before the election re: rezco. However- the PUMAs working with the RNC is very interesting.

Yes, it is very interesting.

Some background on Alxeis Giannoulias. His family owns the Broadway Bank. The Broadway Bank is apparently tied into Rezko, and the Outfit. Giannoulias got a major boost when Senator Obama backed him for Treasurer in 2006.

259 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:02am

re: #248 Ben Hur

zactly

260 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:29am

re: #227 Equable

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Blammo! congrats Six Milion Post Man

261 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:40am

re: #241 doppelganglander

It doesn't really matter if the indictments happen before the election, although of course that would be preferable. Merely announcing the investigation and tying Obama's name to it might be enough.

Incidentally, my husband swears he heard an official in Indianapolis (proud home of 105% voter registration) say that he was well aware ACORN was behind it and Obama is behind ACORN, and he would proceed accordingly. If anyone has more information, that would be great.

talk is cheap. Money talks and Bullsh*t walks.

Time to start barraging the MSM with all of this.

Like the man said in Wisconsin.
I'm begging you.

262 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:45am

re: #255 Ben Hur

WTF?

263 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:50am

re: #238 maddogg

A one holy outhouse.

Yeah,
shit floats.

my momma told me not to use that word.

*whack*

264 phoenixgirl  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:57am

so what his pastor is a racist
so what he went to a madrassa
so what he's friends with terrorists
so what he got money from fnma/fhlmc
so what he was a member of the socialist party
so what he campaigned for odinga
so what his brother lives in a hut
so what he won't produce his birth certificate
so what he smoked pot
so what he snorted coke
so what he smokes! omg, he smokes!
so what his wife hates amerikkka
so what he's friends with rezko
so what he's going to raise taxes
so what he's going to withdraw the troops
so what he's pals with calypso louie
so what he was unaware that have 50 stars on our flag because we have 50 states
so what he wears a bracelet that he was asked not to
you people are so picky/

265 Athos  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:06am

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

Every successful lie has to have within it an element of verifiable truth. So when the lie is challenged - it is defended by pointing to that element of truth which sets up a change in subject.....

266 yma o hyd  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:10am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Wow! Major rumor breaking!

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

This might help to decide fence-sitters to stay off voting for B0 - if published widely.

It won't get B0 into jail before the elections ... and if he wins, it'll be water under the bridge.

Still - wahey!

267 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:11am

re: #179 jorline

Sorry for the OT and if the story is a repost, BUT

Berlusconi Says Leaders May Close World's Markets (Update1)

He's already screwed up Italy, now he wants to screw up the world.

268 Equable  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:12am

re: #260 JacksonTn

Blammo! congrats Six Milion Post Man

Thank you very much!

269 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:32am
270 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:33am

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

One of the fascinating things about even pathological liars is that they tend to shrink from telling a complete untruth. They will talk around the truth; they will construct and demolish strawmen, as Obama did in his recent statement on Ayers; they will concoct lengthy preliminary or ex post facto explanations which are designed to obscure the truth or justify it; but they flinch, more often than not, from telling direct, flat-out falsehoods.

One of the easiest, fastest, and best ways that you can determine someone is lying is if he provides, unbidden, an answer to a question you have not asked. This is true in personal relationships--as in when a partner comes in past their usual time and, unbidden, launches into a lengthy explanation of where they were, what the traffic problems were, etc., etc. --as much as in politics. What the Unbidden Explainer is doing is concocting an alibi, and verbalizing it in a pre-emptive attempt not only to forestall questions, but to find the weaknesses in the story for future emendation, and to fix the talking points of the falsehood in mind.

CAIR's representatives run true to type in this. They hesitate to tell an out and out falsehood, for an out and out falsehood can be disproven. Far better to prevaricate with stories that provide endless wiggle room.


That's it.

I'm calling my wife!

Redux.

271 turn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:36am

re: #165 gman

If Obama is elected, these freaks are going to be coming out of the woodworks to meet with him and it won't be considered a "mistake". It will be called "firm diplomacy".

Wow, never thought about that but I TOTALLY agree.

272 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:47am

re: #221 JustMyView

Yes, his outreach efforts to Jews have included tricking Israeli security experts into thinking they were participating in a documentary about American politics, and then cut and paste the tape into a pro-Obama video.

273 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:52am

re: #250 JacksonTn

a woman scorned ......... Hell to Pay

And Fitz is a Clinton appointee. Hell to pay, indeed.

274 Florida Lady  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:07am

re: #220 Sharmuta

I know- but sometimes they're a good temporary ally.


Agreed! Honest Americans are sickened by this Obama mess and want to do what they can to get rid of this cancer being pushed on us, coutesy of the crazy extreme left and the MSM.

275 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:13am

re: #176 newsjunkie_ky

October surprise: The One indicted?

Takes too long to get an indictment.

276 doppelganglander  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:14am

re: #192 Sharmuta

More rumors-

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

God bless the PUMAs!

I almost just had a little moment of ecstasy reading that story, if you know what I mean.

277 Archimedes  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:17am

re: #106 cblesz

I repeat...HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GUY WINNING THE ELECTION? Have the American people gone mad?

The public school system. They don't just teach the three Rs any more. (1)


(1) do they teach the three Rs?

278 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:20am

re: #24 Desert Dog

Don't matter.....he could stomp a puppy to death and eat it raw during his 30 minute "infomerical" he has scheduled next week on the major networks and his poll numbers would still go up.

Because the polls are manipulated data. Sound and fury indicating nothing.

279 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:46am

re: #274 Florida Lady

Yes- read some PUMA sites and you'll see these people are really, truly pissed at their party.

280 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:50am

re: #161 taxfreekiller

Charles,
Re: Edgar

We here at lgf's are at work attempting to save America from great harm,
just could be we do not need Edgar's bull shit getting in the way.

just my opinion

out in the open for all to see

Sorry, will not upding on that one. He hasn't been nasty enough for me to ask The Big Lizard to intervene. Besides, not my website.

281 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:07am

re: #276 doppelganglander

I almost just had a little moment of ecstasy reading that story, if you know what I mean.

I do!

282 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:14am
283 phoenixgirl  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:20am

re: #276 doppelganglander

I almost just had a little moment of ecstasy reading that story, if you know what I mean.

it will be quashed when the hope for homeowner's rescues him and he gets to keep the house!

284 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:24am

re: #132 NoSubmission

I'm thinking Stuart might be the most informed voter for Obama...

285 interloper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:40am

Liberals are soo full of Hate I don't understand why anyone would want "Haters" of any kind ruling over them. What is wrong with Omerica when our very newsies egg on the hatred of Christians who only Love them, I don't Hate Liberals - but yet I have been treated horribly by them. I have been threatened by them, I have had my career almost destroyed by them. I have seen then bust into our church on Sunday and screaming obscenities. I pray Jesus will save us who seek his Grace!

McCain doesn't care about the very people who beg him to fight for them. Why is that? Why is he so nice all of the sudden?

I wonder what the Obama Nation will feed us when they open the "Conservative Christian Re-Education Camps" and herd us into them?

I guess with all those blue shirted, fatigue wearing supporters who HATE BUSH to keep us safe from thinking about freedom, we'll all just be fine.

I wonder - We're all doomed

286 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:53am

Obama has the advantage.

there is so much shit floating around about him that the American people are becoming immune to the smell.

287 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:54am
288 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:03am

re: #252 Oldasdirt

Rezco singing,,music to my ears!

I would be quite surprised if Rezko were singing about Obama directly.
I actually believe Rezko wants to live for a while, and singing the wrong tune and landing in the wrong cell because he sang the wrong tune is not conducive to good health in prison, or so I've heard.

There were tons of rumors about the same type of thing during the Clinton administration.

289 johnnyreb  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:05am

Just a question, but does President Bush have a "muslim outreach" guy on his staff?

290 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:17am
291 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:18am

re: #264 phoenixgirl

so what his pastor is a racist
so what he went to a madrassa
so what he's friends with terrorists
so what he got money from fnma/fhlmc
so what he was a member of the socialist party
so what he campaigned for odinga
so what his brother lives in a hut
so what he won't produce his birth certificate
so what he smoked pot
so what he snorted coke
so what he smokes! omg, he smokes!
so what his wife hates amerikkka
so what he's friends with rezko
so what he's going to raise taxes
so what he's going to withdraw the troops
so what he's pals with calypso louie
so what he was unaware that have 50 stars on our flag because we have 50 states
so what he wears a bracelet that he was asked not to
you people are so picky/

You forgot he dosent look like the people on our money.

292 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:28am

re: #285 interloper

As liberals kept reminding Republicans in the 1990's, "Hate is not a family value." Shame they couldn't listen to themselves.

293 Beach Lover  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:31am

of course, I'm down on the dead thread, posting my well thought out, uh, thoughts. And here you all are!
What's up?

294 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:52am

re: #244 JacksonTn


Intimidated? No. Very cautious? Yes.

No way they can indict Obama based on the word of Rezko.

If Rezko is talking about Obama, they could make Rezko's claims public prior to the elections, which could sway the results. But there is no way to bring an indictment prior to the election unless there was an amazingly string paper trail. It would be national suicide.

295 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:59am
296 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:08am

re: #244 JacksonTn

So? Are we to be intimated? No, I will not be intimated .....

PIMF .....intimidated .....anyway ........ I ain't skeeeeeerrred ....

297 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:14am

re: #279 Sharmuta

Yes- read some PUMA sites and you'll see these people are really, truly pissed at their party.

But will that feeling last past the attempted evisceration of the O? Once he has been dispatched they will likely go back to voting Dem simply because they have always done that.

298 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:26am

re: #290 buzzsawmonkey

MEOW! Vote for Obama!

299 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:35am
300 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:41am

Rezco will off himself in jail.

301 Athos  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:58am

re: #286 ibmkeyboard

When much of the MSM is busy telling them that the smell is from something else - it's not surprising a largely apathetic group when it comes to politics believes the crap they are being fed....

302 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:02am

re: #294 DeafDog

Intimidated? No. Very cautious? Yes.

No way they can indict Obama based on the word of Rezko.

If Rezko is talking about Obama, they could make Rezko's claims public prior to the elections, which could sway the results. But there is no way to bring an indictment prior to the election unless there was an amazingly string paper trail. It would be national suicide.

and in comes Hillary on her white horse to save the country........................

Good God, did I just say that.

Must be the cough medicine

303 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:25am

re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans

But will that feeling last past the attempted evisceration of the O? Once he has been dispatched they will likely go back to voting Dem simply because they have always done that.

Well yes of course they will go back to being Dems. But the balance of a Republican in the WH is necessary and even THEY know it!

304 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:36am

re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans

But will that feeling last past the attempted evisceration of the O? Once he has been dispatched they will likely go back to voting Dem simply because they have always done that.

Depends...if he's as bad a President as I think he might be, they probably would vote against him or Democratic Congressmen/Senators to send a message. It happened in 1994 and 2006.

305 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:53am

re: #158 Charles

It continues to amaze me that CAIR representatives refuse to condemn Hamas or Hezbollah directly. They must know how freakin' flat-out guilty it makes them look. Why not just lie and condemn them? They have no problem lying about absolutely everything else.

By always falling back on the "we condemn all acts of terrorism" line they can get in a shot implying that Israel is terroristic every time they answer the question. Simple.

306 Celtic Templar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:59am

re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans

But will that feeling last past the attempted evisceration of the O? Once he has been dispatched they will likely go back to voting Dem simply because they have always done that.

One election at a time ... An enemy of my enemy can be my friend for this vote (IMO).

307 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:05am

re: #253 Athos

I am still shocked about that huge gaffe getting next to no attention.....and it came from the supposed foreign policy expert on that ticket.

You and me both, brother.

Palin was so good that night and Biden so bad...but that's just not the way it was spun.

308 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:08am

re: #273 Sharmuta

And Fitz is a Clinton appointee. Hell to pay, indeed.

Bill ........ Head PUMA ......not joking either

309 Florida Lady  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:24am

re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans

But will that feeling last past the attempted evisceration of the O? Once he has been dispatched they will likely go back to voting Dem simply because they have always done that.


They want to get The One. That's good enough for me!

After that, they can go back to being the loyal opposition *wink*

310 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:42am

re: #302 smokefire

and in comes Hillary on her white horse to save the country........................

Good God, did I just say that.

Must be the cough medicine

Maybe this is why we haven't heard a lot from either Bill or Hillary....they are waiting in the wings for her anointing after the Messiah is dispatched.

311 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:48am

re: #298 WriterMom

MEOW! Vote for Obama!

My cat is a tuxedo (black and white). Yet even she hisses when Obama comes on the tube. Something about not wanting to be forced to share her food with other cats./

312 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:20am

re: #310 FurryOldGuyJeans

Maybe this is why we haven't heard a lot from either Bill or Hillary....they are waiting in the wings for her anointing after the Messiah is dispatched.

nice thought, but if it were to happen, it would have been a month or so ago.

313 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:23am

re: #302 smokefire

and in comes Hillary on her white horse to save the country........................

Good God, did I just say that.

Must be the cough medicine

I'd trust Hillary over 0bama.
Hillary won't screw up the country too bad, because it would lessen her power, and she loves power. 0bama believes in internationalism, and will make the US subservient to the UN.

314 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:45am

re: #310 FurryOldGuyJeans

Maybe this is why we haven't heard a lot from either Bill or Hillary....they are waiting in the wings for her anointing after the Messiah is dispatched.

Bill said that he would start after the Jooish holidays.

Haven't heard from him yet.

He still can't beleive that Dems see him as a RACIST.

315 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:49am

re: #273 Sharmuta

And Fitz is a Clinton appointee. Hell to pay, indeed.

Exactly Sharm...Hillary was robbed of the nomination by these O thugs. She, and her supporters KNOW what happened, they know HOW he did it, and you DO NOT piss ogf a Clinton and live very long

316 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:50am

re: #274 Florida Lady

Agreed! Honest Americans are sickened by this Obama mess and want to do what they can to get rid of this cancer being pushed on us, coutesy of the crazy extreme left and the MSM.

Which is why McCain is doing the "bipartisan" thing in his interviews and appearance. He needs those PUMA votes. I read the PUMA sites a lot, and they are simply heartbroken about the ACORN stories, and what the MSM is up to. It's like Obama's takedown of Hillary has pulled the wool from before their eyes.

We need to reach out to them, not mock them.

317 soccerdad  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:52am

That's Barack Hussein Obama....Here he comes. They will be dancing in the he streets of Gaza when he gets elected. It'll look like the 9/11 celebrations that we were not allowed to see. But guess what? Ain't gonna happen.

McCain in an electoral landslide.

I do believe that the 'October surprise' will be that the media stop shielding BHO and start actually reporting on some of his radical associations and just simply doing their job. The American people 9and a few racists) will do the rest. This guy is just toooooo radical.

318 JeremiahRight  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:00am

re: #158 Charles

I never got that either. Especially after that story came out a while back that talked about how it's okay to lie to infidels if its for a just cause. I have been trying to find a link, but this was all I could find:

“’When it is possible to achieve…an aim by lying but not telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if the goal is permissible, and it is obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.

“’When, for example, one is concealing a Muslim from an oppressor who asks where he is, it is obligatory to lie about him being hidden.”

You would think this doctrine would let CAIR come out and condemn terrorist groups. Just a thought

319 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:21am

re: #310 FurryOldGuyJeans

Maybe this is why we haven't heard a lot from either Bill or Hillary....they are waiting in the wings for her anointing after the Messiah is dispatched.

.....orrr, they have been busy little beavers, digging up all this news to drop on the country. Talk about an October Surprise

320 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:38am

re: #313 Kosh's Shadow

I'd trust Hillary over 0bama.
Hillary won't screw up the country too bad, because it would lessen her power, and she loves power. 0bama believes in internationalism, and will make the US subservient to the UN.

I trust HRC to leave the country in the same (or maybe even a better) state that she found it. I do not trust Obama to do that.

321 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:42am

re: #300 Ben Hur

Rezco will off himself in jail.

or have a bizare 'accident'

322 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:44am

re: #313 Kosh's Shadow

I remember asking if anyone here in their wildest dreams would have ever thought of themselves saying "GO HILARY".

323 Desert Dog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:50am

re: #311 arethusa

My cat is a tuxedo (black and white). Yet even she hisses when Obama comes on the tube. Something about not wanting to be forced to share her food with other cats./

But your cat has so much, it is only fair to give his food to other cats, so all the cats can be equal, right?

324 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:50am

re: #314 Ben Hur

Bill said that he would start after the Jooish holidays.

Haven't heard from him yet.

He still can't beleive that Dems see him as a RACIST.

Well, the High Holidays ended yesterday; Sukkot is coming up next week. I hope he didn't mean after Simchat Torah.

325 johnnyreb  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:13am

re: #299 ploome hineni


Thanks, couldn't remember for some odd reason. Possibly a senior moment.

326 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:21am

re: #321 DeafDog

or have a bizare 'accident'


Or go back to the Middle East.

327 jake341  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:21am

future trivial pursuit question;
What terrorist group has he NOT met with?

I mean really, this is a guy who's shared his Big Mac and fries with his terrorist buddy Ayers.

328 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:44am

re: #302 smokefire

and in comes Hillary on her white horse to save the country........................

Good God, did I just say that.

Must be the cough medicine

I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS!

I WISHED THE HELL I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HILLARY.

battleground state NC.

I voted for Obama so I could throw Hillary's ass under the bus,
Now Obanation is throwing my ass under the bus.

I never dreamed McCain might loose?
Damm Damm.

329 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:55am

re: #321 DeafDog

or have a bizare 'accident'

like a Fort Marcy Park moment.

330 Elcid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:57am

'They' shouldn't be running this idiot for President, 'they' should be running his ass to a federal prison.

Those that believe in this person, are for everything evil this world has to offer.

331 WriterMom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:58am

re: #318 JeremiahRight

Why would CAIR want to condemn Islamic terror groups?

The idea is ludicrious.

332 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:10am
A second meeting participant speaking on condition on anonymity said he was stunned to learn that Awad and Bray had been invited to an event where Obama representatives would be present. The participant said Awad and Bray are considered politically “radioactive.” He said that some in the Obama group knew ahead of time that top CAIR officials would be in attendance—an allegation the Obama campaign disputes.

“Yes, when I knew they were coming it made me uncomfortable,” the attendee said. “There was some hope it wouldn’t get out” into the media, the attendee added. “There was some concern within the Obama camp that some of these people coming may be a political liability.”

Note that they are more concerned about how this would be viewed politically than they are about whether they should be there in the first place.

Sorry if this has already been brought up, just popping back in.

333 Osama Bin Porkchop  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:23am

re: #138 Edgar

We have to start forcing terrorists to apologize for their despicable acts.

I'd rather skip the apology part, and send them straight to Hell.....

334 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:34am

re: #317 soccerdad

That's Barack Hussein Obama....Here he comes. They will be dancing in the he streets of Gaza when he gets elected. It'll look like the 9/11 celebrations that we were not allowed to see. But guess what? Ain't gonna happen.

McCain in an electoral landslide.

I do believe that the 'October surprise' will be that the media stop shielding BHO and start actually reporting on some of his radical associations and just simply doing their job. The American people 9and a few racists) will do the rest. This guy is just toooooo radical.

Then come the riots, because so many people have been led to believe it is the 0 by a landslide, that the cry that "whitey stole the vote!" will be easily believed.

But I'd prefer riots under a McCain administration than an 0bama administration.

335 yma o hyd  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:37am

re: #192 Sharmuta

More rumors-

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

God bless the PUMAs!

Bless them indeed!

They have their teeth and claws into B0 and his campaign - that was an excellent article you linked, especially in regard to the polls.

See - not all Americans have lost their minds!

336 dhg4  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:37am

I wonder how J-Street and the NJDC will spin this.

337 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:41am

re: #319 smokefire

.....orrr, they have been busy little beavers, digging up all this news to drop on the country. Talk about an October Surprise

I think that is exactly the case, smoke. Hillary is running for majority leader. She will wait for 2012..In the meantime, she is going to wipe the Zero right out of HER party.

338 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:06am

re: #328 ibmkeyboard

Be careful what you wished for.

339 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:30am

re: #338 smokefire

Be careful what you wished for.

NO SHIT!

340 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:32am

re: #322 WriterMom

I remember asking if anyone here in their wildest dreams would have ever thought of themselves saying "GO HILARY".

I never thought I'd vote for her. But I did in the TX primary.

341 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:39am

Hillary begins to look more sane as time goes on.

And that's sad

342 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:48am

re: #273 Sharmuta

And Fitz is a Clinton appointee. Hell to pay, indeed.

Nope. He's a Bush appointee. Senator Peter Fitzgerald (no relation)recommended him to President Bush.

343 JeremiahRight  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:55am

re: #321 DeafDog

or have a bizare 'accident'


yeah, he might accidently shoot himself in the head in a park, with his left hand...

344 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:55am

I don't have any proof to back up my suspicion, but I think Obama is a puppet, and a creation of Bill Ayres.

345 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:00am

NOT kidding...I would vote for Hillary way before this jackass.

346 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:17am

Hey all y'all - sorry if I haven't anwered any posts to me but apparently I can not run a full Norton Internet/Spyware/Virus scan AND be on LGF at the same time!
Poor computer went haywire!
Now, where were we?! LOL!

347 FloridaAnole  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:38am

re: #285 interloper

Pray.

348 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:39am

re: #303 Wishing

Well yes of course they will go back to being Dems. But the balance of a Republican in the WH is necessary and even THEY know it!

I seriously doubt they know anything past getting revenge on O for dissing their Prophetess, Hillary.

I am not discounting the vehemence of backlash that seems to be building against the O, but I also realize that there are more races, such as Congressional, going on in conjunction with the POTUS race, and all these "friends" we are gloating about having are just as likely to vote straight party line in all the other races. I just think we could be too short-sighted in our desires for this POTUS election to see the dangers posed in this and future non-POTUS races.

349 dhg4  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:11am

re: #313 Kosh's Shadow

I'd trust Hillary over 0bama.
Hillary won't screw up the country too bad, because it would lessen her power, and she loves power. 0bama believes in internationalism, and will make the US subservient to the UN.

Put another way, Hillary Clinton could be counted on to do the right thing if it would benefit her politically, but Barack Obama is too committed to a left wing ideology to do the right thing.

350 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:23am

re: #346 realwest

Hey all y'all - sorry if I haven't anwered any posts to me but apparently I can not run a full Norton Internet/Spyware/Virus scan AND be on LGF at the same time!
Poor computer went haywire!
Now, where were we?! LOL!

Sharm posted a couple of good links to HillBuzz up-thread

351 arethusa  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:27am

Why do the threads always get interesting when I have to go teach?

352 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:28am

re: #335 yma o hyd

Bless them indeed!

They have their teeth and claws into B0 and his campaign - that was an excellent article you linked, especially in regard to the polls.

See - not all Americans have lost their minds!

I have been say that over and over. McCain was probably not everyone's first choice for POTUS here on LGF. But at this point he is secondary. The American people will not be voting FOR McCain, they will be voting AGAINST obama.
I am tellin ya, obama is goin down...fast.

353 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:31am

re: #333 Osama Bin Porkchop

I'd rather skip the apology part, and send them straight to Hell.....

You dont ask a rabid dog to apologize, you put him down.

354 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:50am

re: #342 Honorary Yooper

Thank you for the correction!

355 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:04am

re: #178 sattv4u2

I was only 16 when Manson had his surrogates kill Tate and LoBianco. I think I'll see if Charles (Manson) will help me kick off my political carreer

Manson, just like William Ayers has lots of inherited wealth, right? Or was he just the charasmatic lunatic who got the trust fund kiddies to move in and fund the commune?

Either way, your alliance could certainly be quite, er, lucrative. And hey, the good news is that apparently aligning with murderous filth need no longer be an impediment to running for high political office. What a country!

356 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:14am

re: #353 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You dont ask a rabid dog to apologize, you put him down.

Certainly in my case....

357 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:19am

re: #340 arethusa

I never thought I'd vote for her. But I did in the TX primary.

I need to bend over and let y'all kick me in the ass.

358 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:20am

re: #326 Ben Hur

Or go back to the Middle East.

The Marc Rich path?

Maybe, but that would be kind. I don't think they do things kind-like in Chicago....I'm guessing it's suicide or accident.

359 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:29am

re: #351 arethusa

Why do the threads always get interesting when I have to go teach?

someone has to educate the children to the REAL TRUTH, not the crap they are getting today

360 Iron Fist  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:29am

re: #334 Kosh's Shadow

The riots will be very short lived, if exceptionally bloody. I don't think people in the US are just going to sit around while Abu Jihadi is torching their cars.

361 Desert Dog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:42am

re: #327 jake341

future trivial pursuit question;
What terrorist group has he NOT met with?

I mean really, this is a guy who's shared his Big Mac and fries with his terrorist buddy Ayers.

In his mind, the only terrorist organizations he knows are the RNC and Israel and he will not meet with them, even with preconditions

362 Alouette  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:00am

re: #178 sattv4u2

I was only 16 when Manson had his surrogates kill Tate and LoBianco. I think I'll see if Charles (Manson) will help me kick off my political carreer

Manson helped kick off Bernadine Dohrn's political career. Wild!

363 West Coast Freedom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:06am

History does repeat itself it seems. Obama is heading the down the same path as the last socialist revolutionist we had as POTUS.

The late Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan summed it up when he said of Carter in 1980, "Unable to distinguish between our friends and our enemies, he has essentially adopted our enemies' view of the world."

364 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:07am

From Hillbuzz:

Republicans and centrist Democrats are joined together on this effort to get the truth out about Obama before the November election. We firmly believe in McCain’s victory and do not believe it hinges on any developments with RICO. The polls, in our opinon, are wrong, and the internal numbers we see coming out of NC, VA, PA, OH, IN and FL show McCain wins in all of those states (there is no mathematical possibility for Obama to win without taking PA, OH, or FL). We believe after McCain’s win there will be a continued prosecution of Obama and members of the Democratic party for voter fraud under RICO statutes in the months and years ahead. ACORN and leftist Democrats have gone too far this time — for years ACORN has engineered deliberate election fraud using taxpayer dollars funneled to it by Democrats. This time, with both Democrats and Republicans joined against them, ACORN Is going down…and we believe it will ultimately take Obama, Axelrod, and most of today’s Democratic leadership down with it.

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Read it all.

366 Athos  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:38am

re: #346 realwest

Geez, Real - why not just set it to scan overnight once or twice a week and leave the computer on those nights? LGF time has to be uninterrupted......

367 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:41am

re: #349 dhg4

Put another way, Hillary Clinton could be counted on to do the right thing if it would benefit her politically, but Barack Obama is too committed to a left wing ideology to do the right thing.

I doubt Hillary would stand for wearing a burka ......... Obama ...... not sure what his dress of choice is ......... just saying

368 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:01:37am

re: #367 JacksonTn

I doubt Hillary would stand for wearing a burka ......... Obama ...... not sure what his dress of choice is ......... just saying

Isn't it obvious? Empty suit. ;)

369 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:01:43am

re: #365 Kenneth

Sarah Palin will be dropping the puck for the Philadelphia Flyers home opener hockey game in Philly Saturday.

The Hockey Mom Rocks!

The Broad Street Bullies, get Sarah Barracuda to drop the puck?!

How appropriate

370 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:01:46am

re: #329 smokefire

like a Fort Marcy Park moment.

RIP, Vince. You served the Clinton cause to the end.

371 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:15am

re: #358 DeafDog

The Marc Rich path?

Maybe, but that would be kind. I don't think they do things kind-like in Chicago....I'm guessing it's suicide or accident.

Which is exactly why Rezko chose to go directly into Federal custody without passing Go.

372 loppyd  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:27am

Good Afternoon Lizard Nation!

So I was just listening to Rush in the car and Mr. Snerdly was doing his Official Obama Critiizer routine and when he switched to his from the brother bit it went silent like they were silencing what he said then he started back up and then it went to commercials - and not at the usual time. I know the show's schedule by heart and this was not a planned break.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

373 JeremiahRight  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:47am

re: #367 JacksonTn

I doubt Hillary would stand for wearing a burka ......... Obama ...... not sure what his dress of choice is ......... just saying

here you go

374 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:06am

re: #370 DeafDog

RIP, Vince. You served the Clinton cause to the end.

must have been quite a job, putting that cannon in his mouth, then pulling the trigger

375 doppelganglander  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:35am

re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans

But will that feeling last past the attempted evisceration of the O? Once he has been dispatched they will likely go back to voting Dem simply because they have always done that.

I am actually fine with that. First priority is to stop the O. Next, let the Dems take out the trash (Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, etc. ad infinitum). New leadership will arise in the Democratic Party, probably more centrist. It's important for the country to have two viable, grown-up parties that are not extremist and corrupt. The clash of ideas is what allows us to choose the best alternative.

376 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:42am

re: #288 jwb7605

correct. If Rezko was to sing on Obama, Fitz would have to put him in the Witness Protection Program and drop all charges post-conviction.

Is that even legal?

377 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:43am
378 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:47am

re: #341 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Hillary begins to look more sane as time goes on.

And that's sad


You guys keep saying that, but if we were having this race against the Clintonistas we would be going bat-shit about Hillary too. They both stink.

379 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:47am

The real danger of the financial crisis.

It's not a general economic collapse like the Great Depression.

It's that this crisis is being manipulated by those who would persuade an American population poorly educated in economic fundamentals and history, and used to instant gratification, that capitalism is a failure (despite having created the wealthiest nation and wealthiest GLOBAL civilization in history) and that they should embrace full-blown socialism.

This crisis is being manipulated to convince Americans to willingly sell themselves into slavery to a global nanny state.

And currently, a huge percentage of Americans seem all too willing to surrender the last vestiges of their individual freedom for the sake of "economic security."

FIGHT. FIGHT. FIGHT. And keep fighting whether McCain wins or not.

The victory always goes to those with the greater will to win. Never forget ... the Soviet Union DID fall. That didn't turn out as we'd hoped, but it DID collapse. If this country goes socialist, we CAN overturn it, because socialism will fail and people will see its failure. And unlike Russia, we have a history of freedom and capitalism to return to.

380 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:52am

re: #372 loppyd

getting ready for tonight loppyd.

GO RED SOX

381 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:04:45am

re: #360 Iron Fist Hey my friend - I didn't understand your #242 but would appreciate it if y'all could drop me a short e-mail cause I'm no longer sure which e-mail addy to use for you! LOL!

382 Kenneth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:04:54am

re: #355 funky chicken

Manson had no money, he was a homeless hustler, the abused son of a prostitute.

BUT... Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn thought the Manson murders were really cool!

"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!" -Bernadine Dohrn

383 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:09am

Ex-president Carter slams Bush on market crisis

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Former President Jimmy Carter said on Friday the "atrocious economic policies" of the Bush administration had caused the worst global financial crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Pot calling the kettle black? Does Carter live in the US anymore?

384 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:15am
385 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:20am

re: #380 smokefire

GO RED SOX

needs to be said again!~

386 Odinga  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:34am

I have a simple question:

Why does the Obama campaign even HAVE a Muslim outreach director?

387 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:50am

re: #360 Iron Fist

The riots will be very short lived, if exceptionally bloody. I don't think people in the US are just going to sit around while Abu Jihadi is torching their cars.

I agree - and people will know who they voted for and why.
But it will set race relations back 50 years. Some accomplishment for the "post-racial" candidate.

388 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:50am

re: #385 Wishing

needs to be said again!~


AGREE! Go Sox!

389 loppyd  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:19am

re: #380 smokefire

getting ready for tonight loppyd.

GO RED SOX

You know it, baby!

I've got my lucky sweatshirt and cap laid out on the couch already.

390 Jinx  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:21am

If Obama was elected, this would only be the beginning of him conceding mistakes for meeting with terrorists.

Wait, strike that. There will be no mistakes by the Obamessiah. Just look at how he's trying to shut down people who expose the truth about him.

You want freedom? He's got Marxism. Turn us into the Soviet Republic of America. Expect lines for gas, food, toilet paper to arise shortly.

391 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:42am

re: #387 Kosh's Shadow

THAT IS THE SAD PART

392 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:52am

re: #378 DeafDog

You guys keep saying that, but if we were having this race against the Clintonistas we would be going bat-shit about Hillary too. They both stink.


The difference is this:
I could stand a Hillary presidency because she doesn't HATE this country.
I will literally be sick to my stomach and crying if Obama wins.

393 gonecamping  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:09am

re: #9 Sharmuta

But the link is from msnbc.

There have been rumors that the msm love affair might be over. Maybe it is.

The love affair with the MSM and the 'Messiah' Obama is by no means over, remember it was the MSM that anointed him as the Dem candidate.

IMHO, the MSM has been exposed as being completely biased and untrustworthy during this campaign and has lost all credibility. With sales and viewers dropping like a rock, some of the more astute MSM venues are going through the motion of pretending to be balanced by showing tidbits of the Obama scandals...in most cases trying to downplay the news.

Regardless, it is just inconceivable that Obama has such nefarious associations and gets a free ride from the press when any conservative/republican would have been ridden out of town on a rail.

394 soccerdad  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:13am

re: #192 Sharmuta

More rumors-

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

God bless the PUMAs!


WOW! Thanks for sharing Shar.

395 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:36am

re: #376 funky chicken

correct. If Rezko was to sing on Obama, Fitz would have to put him in the Witness Protection Program and drop all charges post-conviction.

Is that even legal
?

Yes.

396 Beach Lover  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:41am

re: #352 Wishing


I am tellin ya, obama is goin down...fast.


ohpleaseohpleaseohplease
I hope you are right!

397 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:44am

I was just listening to Glenn Beck a little as I drove around. He was going off on how both candidates are heading us right into a socialist future. The only difference is that one is taking us there in a jet plane while the other is in a steam train, but they are both headed for the same station. I can't help but wonder if after McCain's "let's buy up bad mortgages" scheme Sarah Palin is wishing that she hadn't allied herself to McCain. Don't get me wrong, i still intend to vote for him, but I am not really happy about it. I just figure that it is a lot easier to stop a steam train than it is to stop a jet plane.

398 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:08am

re: #380 smokefire

getting ready for tonight loppyd.

GO RED SOX

Amen to that!

399 Suzette  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:13am

re: #9 Sharmuta

But the link is from msnbc.

There have been rumors that the msm love affair might be over. Maybe it is.

Sharm-----I really hope that is true. They need to look into this man and splash it everywhere! He really doesn't need to be in the oval office much less even in the Senate because of his ties to terrorists and Marxist ways.
He is a danger to this country. IMHO.

400 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:20am

re: #279 Sharmuta
YEP! Only real question is HOW MANY PUMA voters will vote for McCain as opposed to just staying home?

401 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:35am

re: #385 Wishing

needs to be said again!~

OK Go Red Sox!

402 FloridaAnole  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:52am

re: #192 Sharmuta

More rumors-

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

God bless the PUMAs!

Excellent link! Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Those PUMAs are really motivated. It's obviousi that the Big O has made himself some dedicated enemies. I think if we can prevent the Acorns and other nut "community organizers" from stealing too many votes, we will have a good chance to win.

(I'm doing my bit by putting in time at the local McCain/Palin HQ making phone calls, and also I am going to be a poll watcher for McCain/Palin at the 402nd precinct on Nov 4 .)

403 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:58am

The chink in the love affair between the O and the MSM is already showing.
Expect more of it, day by day
Kind of funny, the O getting thrown under the bus
I am totally enjoying the show!
AMERICA ROCKS!

404 Iron Fist  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:04am

re: #381 realwest

Hey! Check your mail :-)

405 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:10am

This is the best thread i have read in weeks.

406 johnnyreb  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:29am

This stuff on Obama is actually starting to come out in the MSM. CNN actually has for them, a hit piece linked on their front page. Little by little this stuff is leaking into the medias minds, and I suspect they finally realize that the Big "O" is just too hard of a sell to America. Just a hunch, but I think they are getting ready for something that might derail the One.

Then they can say; Look we reported it and let you decide, before November. They can also say, somewhat truthfully, that they were way too busy spending time covering the meltdown of the economy.

407 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:53am

re: #398 Ford_Prefect

Amen to that!

NESN for pre-game, TBS for game.
Thank God McCarver is not doing this game. Don't think I could stand it.

Let him badmouth Manny for the NLCS.

408 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:54am

re: #364 Sharmuta

Thanks for that link Sharm. Very Interesting!

409 XMarine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:08am

Given the Obama campaign's associations with people who have connections to known terrorist organizations who have labeled Jewish people with epithets such as, "Sons of apes and pigs" and who have vowed to wipe Israel off the map, I cannot understand the support Obama gets from the Jewish community.

Does anybody out there have any illumination on the matter?

410 WitchDoctor  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:17am

re: #328 ibmkeyboard

I thought from day 1 that operation chaos or whatever rush called it was a bad idea. It's not just dishonest, it's throwing away your previous right to vote.

OTOH, I still think in the darkenss of the booth (or mailbox in my fraud-friendly absentee only state) people will understand that the BHO is a BAD idea. So cheer up :)

411 Celtic Templar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:29am
412 Suzette  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:39am

re: #382 Kenneth

Manson had no money, he was a homeless hustler, the abused son of a prostitute.

BUT... Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn thought the Manson murders were really cool!

And that needs to get more out there too. That Dohrn thought that was "cool".

413 rhythman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:47am

this country is going to elect Obama even with all this crap in the news. G-d Help US

414 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:48am

re: #407 smokefire

NESN for pre-game, TBS for game.
Thank God McCarver is not doing this game. Don't think I could stand it.

Let him badmouth Manny for the NLCS.

I am still PO'd that the game wont start until sometime after 8:30. These are both east coast teams. Start the game at 7:00!

415 Athos  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:50am

re: #387 Kosh's Shadow

As sad as it is to say, that is, I think, one of the goals. It will lock in the entitlement / dependency to the Democrat party for decades - reversing all of the gains made in the last several decades.

This is the same party that spent 80 years pressing and maintaining Jim Crow and with few exceptions, voted against the Civil Rights Act.

They depend on the lockstep voting of 90% of this group to win elections so there is no desire to change the paradigm. So, who are the real racists?

416 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:01am

re: #400 realwest

YEP! Only real question is HOW MANY PUMA voters will vote for McCain as opposed to just staying home?

Staying home defeats the purpose. They can't get their girl in the White House unless 0bama losses.

PUMAs = 5-7 million voters
ACORN = 1.5 million registrations

417 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:04am

The only mistake was getting caught.

418 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:08am

re: #411 Celtic Templar

Go Flyers, Go Palin, Go McCain!

GO RED SOX!
(had to pile on)

419 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:19am

re: #392 Typicalwhitey

The difference is this:
I could stand a Hillary presidency because she doesn't HATE this country.
I will literally be sick to my stomach and crying if Obama wins.


If Obama wins you'll need to strap up your boots and get ready for the next fight...because the next fight will be even more important.

420 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:34am

re: #364 Sharmuta

From Hillbuzz:

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Read it all.

Has anyone ever said you would make a good secrtairy of information?

421 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:41am

re: #413 rhythman

this country is going to elect Obama even with all this crap in the news. G-d Help US

Please stop saying that ........ Why not just say we will fight to the end to prevent it from happening .......

422 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:45am

re: #409 XMarine

that is a good question. Better half (Vagabond Trader) is Jewish, and she can't figure it out. Beats the Hell out of me too.

423 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:50am

re: #409 XMarine

Given the Obama campaign's associations with people who have connections to known terrorist organizations who have labeled Jewish people with epithets such as, "Sons of apes and pigs" and who have vowed to wipe Israel off the map, I cannot understand the support Obama gets from the Jewish community.

Does anybody out there have any illumination on the matter?


Denial and guilt sprinkled with the typical Jewish liberal agenda.

424 Celtic Templar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:56am

Washington Post about angry Republicans

I actually read this beaming with a bit of pride.

425 maddogg  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:08am

re: #377 buzzsawmonkey

You want to know my real worry?

There were a few--albeit relatively minor--connections between some Soros-funded organizations and McCain that came out a few months ago. I don't, alas, remember their names now.

Well, McCain is currently running around blathering about the government buying up all the bad mortgages signed onto by greedy losers, which does not please me.

I have the ugly suspicion that what we have in this election is the Overt Soros Candidate in Obama, and the Covert Soros Candidate in McCain.

That would require that McCain, after suffering for years and years for his country was now willing to sell it out. I think not.

426 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:11am

Jammie, thanks for the link above. I just threw up a little in my mouth.

427 winston06  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:16am

B Hussein O is a risky candidate

428 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:34am

Anger Is Crowd's Overarching Emotion at McCain Rally


WAUKESHA, Wis., Oct. 9 -- There were shouts of "Nobama" and "Socialist" at the mention of the Democratic presidential nominee. There were boos, middle fingers turned up and thumbs turned down as a media caravan moved through the crowd Thursday for a midday town hall gathering featuring John McCain and Sarah Palin.

"It is absolutely vital that you take it to Obama, that you hit him where it hits, there's a soft spot," said James T. Harris, a local radio talk show host, who urged the Republican nominee to use Barack Obama's controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., and others against him.

"We have the good Reverend Wright. We have [the Rev. Michael L.] Pfleger. We have all of these shady characters that have surrounded him," Harris bellowed. "We have corruption here in Wisconsin and voting across the nation. I am begging you, sir. I am begging you. Take it to him."

The crowd of thousands roared its approval.

Would you expect anything less from WaPo? Bad McCain crowds...bad!

429 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:37am

re: #397 Ford_Prefect

I was just listening to Glenn Beck a little as I drove around. He was going off on how both candidates are heading us right into a socialist future. The only difference is that one is taking us there in a jet plane while the other is in a steam train, but they are both headed for the same station. I can't help but wonder if after McCain's "let's buy up bad mortgages" scheme Sarah Palin is wishing that she hadn't allied herself to McCain. Don't get me wrong, i still intend to vote for him, but I am not really happy about it. I just figure that it is a lot easier to stop a steam train than it is to stop a jet plane.

I had said repeatedly something quite similar (Socialism vs. Socialism Lite) during the primary season and I got soundly pooh-poohed for such negativity. So far I have heard and seen nothing that has changed my opinion, and McCain bloviating about bailing out bad mortgages just reinforced my opinion that both will punish those people who always do the right thing by working hard and paying their debts on time without demanding a government to "rescue" them.

430 winston06  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:40am

McCain/Palin 2008

431 Celtic Templar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:41am

re: #418 Wishing

GO RED SOX!
(had to pile on)

Go Phillies! Right back at you ;)

432 DeafDog  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:41am

re: #406 johnnyreb


I hope it's not too little, too late.

433 Suzette  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:41am

re: #400 realwest

YEP! Only real question is HOW MANY PUMA voters will vote for McCain as opposed to just staying home?

Real {hope you are doing well}! They will vote! Because they are very aware of Obama's back-fisted ways!

434 pat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:04am

Franken up by 6 in Minnesota. Now that is insanity.

435 loppyd  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:06am
436 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:31am

re: #407 smokefire

NESN for pre-game, TBS for game.
Thank God McCarver is not doing this game. Don't think I could stand it.

Let him badmouth Manny for the NLCS.


Hopefully CHIP CAREY is not doing it. That guy freaking sucks. Curious. This blog is a conservative blog. Are all, the Sox fans here from the Republic of Massachusetts? When I left there 18 years ago there certainly were not any conservatives there and judging by the way the state votes, there still are not any...

437 Ben Hur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:40am

She'll be boo-d.

And remember when Soccer Moms were all the rage because they were thought to be Dems.

Then it was "Nascar Dads."

Hockey Moms aren't getting any MSM PR because, well, you know.

438 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:45am

re: #414 Ford_Prefect

I am still PO'd that the game wont start until sometime after 8:30. These are both east coast teams. Start the game at 7:00!

FORD, it is all about the ratings game.

Just think what will happen in the World Series. Starting time 8:30, first pitch 9:05. What ever happened to the afternoon World Series games I remember as a boy?

Damn I am old

439 odinga  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:54am

This is a 1998 interview with Connie Chung. Barack Obama was working with Bill Ayers at the time.

Terrorists Ayers & Dohrn Admit They Wish They Would Have Done More... Obama Says He Didn't Know (Video)
Video.