Financial Yo-Yo Watch
Business | Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:29:41 pm PDT
Good grief. The Dow plunged more than 700 points earlier, and now it’s rebounded all the way into positive territory.
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Business | Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:29:41 pm PDT
Good grief. The Dow plunged more than 700 points earlier, and now it’s rebounded all the way into positive territory.
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Adrenalyn 10/10/08 12:32:38 pm reply quote |
no thanks to Jimmy Carter
stabbing at Bush
trying to pin the blame on him and Republicans
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BenZ's Bat 10/10/08 12:34:25 pm reply quote |
My husband (who is somewhat financially savvy) has been saying for the last couple of days:
"if the market opens significantly down and on the same day closes moderately up then this thing is just about over"
I want to see how monday and tuesday go then see about putting some money back in.
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Power Armored Lizardoid 10/10/08 12:34:51 pm reply quote |
This rollercoaster ride ain't over yet folks...Just let me know when I can get a thousand shares of Microsoft for $50!
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Defector01 10/10/08 12:35:14 pm reply quote |
I'll take this positive
and dude you can buy Microsoft now pretty cheap
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Power Armored Lizardoid 10/10/08 12:36:09 pm reply quote |
re: #7 Adrenalyn
no thanks to Jimmy Carter
stabbing at Bush
trying to pin the blame on him and Republicans
Oh what the H-E-Double Hockeysticks has Jimmah been sayin now?
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rawmuse 10/10/08 12:36:43 pm reply quote |
Before the '29 crash, it did the same thing, oddly. Huge swings, then the bottom.
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Power Armored Lizardoid 10/10/08 12:37:59 pm reply quote |
Wow, one of the few times I'm glad I haven't been investing in the market...Just precious metals like copper, lead, and brass...
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jorline 10/10/08 12:38:21 pm reply quote |
The Dow lately has been like a box-spring mattress at the Chicken Ranch in Vegas...lots of ups and downs.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 10/10/08 12:38:30 pm reply quote |
re: #4 buzzsawmonkey
It's up! It's down! It's all around!
SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER! SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER!
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Sharmuta 10/10/08 12:39:09 pm reply quote |
I would think things could bottom out only so much before people with some intelligence realized this is now a buying opportunity.
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littleoldlady 10/10/08 12:40:07 pm reply quote |
Manufactured chaos. We're being purposefully distracted from the election.
/bought shares in Amalgamated Tin Foil Hat, Ltd.
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 12:40:23 pm reply quote |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER! SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER!
Forget it, Kragar. It's Chinatown...
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Abu Al-Poopypants 10/10/08 12:40:30 pm reply quote |
An upward rebound of the deceased feline variety.
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Summersong 10/10/08 12:40:46 pm reply quote |
My GE buy at 18.50 is lookin good....
Now if the rest of my portfolio would only buck up...
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 12:41:19 pm reply quote |
We're all rich again! Time to wash the new Bentley with Dom Perignon!
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jorline 10/10/08 12:41:34 pm reply quote |
re: #22 Defector01
I think you mean the bunny ranch?
LMAO...thanks...I was thinking of the Chicken Ranch of my youth here in Texas in La Grange.
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littleoldlady 10/10/08 12:41:40 pm reply quote |
re: #16 BenZ's Bat
Hey you! How's your family? I haven't seen your dad in like...forever!
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turn 10/10/08 12:41:42 pm reply quote |
Those traders are busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest right now. My guess this spike is going to continue through close, but then again it's only a guess.
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Gearhead 10/10/08 12:42:03 pm reply quote |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER! SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER!
Are you calling the financial system inbred?!
I beg to agree.
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taxfreekiller 10/10/08 12:42:17 pm reply quote |
per post below
tfk and his 10,000 banking, real estate, ranching, farming and consulting buds have been buying from 2:00 Texas time to now, still some good buys.
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nyc redneck 10/10/08 12:42:17 pm reply quote |
yay, we're out of the poor house and mccain is closer to the white house.
oh, please let this trend continue. up up and away.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 10/10/08 12:42:25 pm reply quote |
I dedicate this song to the Stock Market;
Is Bitter there? I'd rather talk to her than Disappointed
Though she's not quite as fun as Good'n'Mad
You'd better put her on
She can change the game
She can make me say I'm sorryYou throw your hands up in the air and swear you didn't know
You think the world revolves around you but it doesn't so
You sit and spin
Baby someone is crazy and it's you
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Fat Jolly Penguin 10/10/08 12:42:25 pm reply quote |
Boing boing boing boing-boing-boing-boing-boing
/Finding Nemo
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Defector01 10/10/08 12:43:13 pm reply quote |
I'm still buying
for 25yr olds who wanna get into the market, this is the greatest!
My 20 shares of Apple just went up a ton!
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 12:43:37 pm reply quote |
Can they keep the people scared
Until Election Day
So that they will vote Obama
To make it all go away?
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eschew_obfuscation 10/10/08 12:44:22 pm reply quote |
The frickin' thing is all over the place....up, down, up, down...+33
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 12:44:43 pm reply quote |
re: #30 Charles
-100.
We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!
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Racer X 10/10/08 12:45:06 pm reply quote |
Great news!
For those of you who long for the days when a loaf of bread was 10¢, a gallon of milk was 50¢, and a gallon of gas was 17¢, your wish may soon come true.
The down side? Your salary just went to $2.00 per hour.
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turn 10/10/08 12:45:08 pm reply quote |
re: #46 Occasional Reader
We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!
LOL, funny!
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jayzee 10/10/08 12:45:51 pm reply quote |
Back down now almost flat. It's a mad mad mad mad mad world. I wonder if because of the losses, BHO will adjust his rich = $250K number down? Maybe it will be $100K?
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bringmeturi 10/10/08 12:46:08 pm reply quote |
up +72
close early today, just this once!
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 12:46:18 pm reply quote |
"What was it like during the Great Repression, Daddy?"
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BenZ's Bat 10/10/08 12:46:20 pm reply quote |
re: #32 littleoldlady
Not bad. mom's been doing well, sister's prego. You probably won't see dad around anymore. He decided that the ID v. Evo thing was getting to be too much. He thought he was banned after a certain comment that he made (I don't know which one). Either way he says this is Charles' house so he's not going to criticize but he's not going to visit anymore either.
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Gearhead 10/10/08 12:46:21 pm reply quote |
Note to self: Bring 1 additional change of underwear to work on Monday.
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Defector01 10/10/08 12:46:40 pm reply quote |
re: #49 jayzee
Its a combination of two things:
Absolute panic at the status of the market vs. the desire of lots of people to buy cheap
I'm in the latter
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 10/10/08 12:46:43 pm reply quote |
re: #46 Occasional Reader
We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!
And this Chateau le Blanc '68 is supposed to be served slightly chilled! This is room temperature! What do you think we are, animals?
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 12:46:53 pm reply quote |
Okay, I promise myself I would NOT watch the dang thing as the 4 pm bell draws nigh; too hard on my nerves. I'll check back a little later.
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debutaunt 10/10/08 12:46:54 pm reply quote |
re: #46 Occasional Reader
We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!
Gold trying to rebound.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 12:47:03 pm reply quote |
re: #49 jayzee
Back down now almost flat. It's a mad mad mad mad mad world. I wonder if because of the losses, BHO will adjust his rich = $250K number down? Maybe it will be $100K?
But of course!
He's gotta get the tax moneis from somewhere, after all.
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winston06 10/10/08 12:47:30 pm reply quote |
US economy is strong. The government should have stayed away from this whole mess.
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rawmuse 10/10/08 12:48:04 pm reply quote |
re: #60 winston06
US economy is strong. The government should have stayed away from this whole mess.
There you go again, using common sense. No high political office for you!
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Summersong 10/10/08 12:48:09 pm reply quote |
re: #46 Occasional Reader
We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!
LMAO. I needed a belly laugh. Thank you!
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de La Valette 10/10/08 12:48:12 pm reply quote |
Why do I have the suspicious feeling that Soros is going to come out of this doing well? Paranoia, historic perspective, envy?
If that Bond villain makes a bundle and gets his man in White House because of this I will ... nevermind.
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littleoldlady 10/10/08 12:48:45 pm reply quote |
re: #52 BenZ's Bat
I am SO glad your mom is doing well and mazel tov to your sister! :-)
But I miss BenZ! :-( Please give him my regards and best wishes?
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Cap'n DOC 10/10/08 12:49:14 pm reply quote |
re: #22 Defector01
He had it right. It's the Chicken Ranch. I'd give you a link but it ain't safe for work.
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Rednek 10/10/08 12:49:16 pm reply quote |
Well, this is a nice way to start the weekend.
The sun shines and the birds chirp to sing in a bright new future!
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Power Armored Lizardoid 10/10/08 12:49:50 pm reply quote |
re: #60 winston06
US economy is strong. The government should have stayed away from this whole mess.
Even if it wasn't strong...still should have stayed away. Socializing the economy should never have been a choice...
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opnion 10/10/08 12:49:55 pm reply quote |
The ancient Sophists must be so proud of the Democrat Party.
They created the financial crisis. They passed the the CRA & gave money to Acorn & others to intimidate banks to make bad subprime mortgage loans. HUD now admits to 5 million loans to illegals. That's what they admit to so you know that there is more. Barry himself was a legal counsel for ACORN.
You create the mess & blame the Republicans. Pure Sophistry.
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ploome hineni 10/10/08 12:50:05 pm reply quote |
re: #64 littleoldlady
I am SO glad your mom is doing well and mazel tov to your sister! :-)
But I miss BenZ! :-( Please give him my regards and best wishes?
what happened to Benz?
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Peacekeeper 10/10/08 12:50:23 pm reply quote |
The Once-ler: Every once in a while I sit down with myself asking 'Once-ler, why are you a Once-ler?' And I cringe, I don't smile as I sit there on trial asking 'Aren't you ashamed, you old Once-ler? You ought to be locked in a hoosegow, you should! The things that you do are completely un-good.' Yeah? But if I didn't do them, then someone else WOULD! That's a very good point, Mr. Once-ler. Business is business, and business must grow!
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Rednek 10/10/08 12:50:48 pm reply quote |
re: #69 opnion
The ancient Sophists must be so proud of the Democrat Party.
They created the financial crisis. They passed the the CRA & gave money to Acorn & others to intimidate banks to make bad subprime mortgage loans. HUD now admits to 5 million loans to illegals. That's what they admit to so you know that there is more. Barry himself was a legal counsel for ACORN.
You create the mess & blame the Republicans. Pure Sophistry.
Some would call it devinely inspired.
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DoubleU 10/10/08 12:50:59 pm reply quote |
And back into the negative!
..and then slightly positive!
SELL SELL SELL, BUT BUY
Back to negative.
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Defector01 10/10/08 12:51:42 pm reply quote |
re: #68 Power Armored Lizardoid
"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab
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jorline 10/10/08 12:51:55 pm reply quote |
re: #65 ploome hineni
Hi, ploome. No graph, but a great site for the word index.
anyone recommend a good site to see the graph?
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bringmeturi 10/10/08 12:52:06 pm reply quote |
re: #63 de La Valette
Buffett made another 6 billion in the past two weeks.
I think that might top Soros. I can hope anyway...
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West Coast Freedom 10/10/08 12:52:09 pm reply quote |
"The bears make money, the bulls make money, but the pigs go to the slaughter house."
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Egfrow 10/10/08 12:52:13 pm reply quote |
Who says the MSM doesn't still have power to influence the minds of the masses. No one has read The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Don't Panic.
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Power Armored Lizardoid 10/10/08 12:52:28 pm reply quote |
re: #77 Defector01
"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab
Indeed.
/Teal'c
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Cap'n DOC 10/10/08 12:52:33 pm reply quote |
re: #76 buzzsawmonkey
There's gottabe a song there somewhere - to be had.
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OldLineTexan 10/10/08 12:52:55 pm reply quote |
re: #83 Egfrow
Who says the MSM doesn't still have power to influence the minds of the masses. No one has read The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Don't Panic.
Many could use that towel corner to suck on.
They should read the books.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 10/10/08 12:52:58 pm reply quote |
re: #77 Defector01
"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab
Pain is nature little way of saying "WTF DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?"
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Maximu§ 10/10/08 12:53:09 pm reply quote |
Its so bad, I stopped watching it.....all I can do is focus on my little world and try and hold it together.
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Peacekeeper 10/10/08 12:53:26 pm reply quote |
And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.
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Rednek 10/10/08 12:53:33 pm reply quote |
re: #81 bringmeturi
Buffett made another 6 billion in the past two weeks.
I think that might top Soros. I can hope anyway...
It is a good time to be a billionaire.
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jorline 10/10/08 12:53:33 pm reply quote |
World market at a glance...notice Iceland, no trading...broke!
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turn 10/10/08 12:53:45 pm reply quote |
re: #81 bringmeturi
Buffett made another 6 billion in the past two weeks.
I think that might top Soros. I can hope anyway...
Hey you got a link to that for us lazy lizards? 6 bil - wow! How did he do it?
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DoubleU 10/10/08 12:54:11 pm reply quote |
re: #83 Egfrow
Who says the MSM doesn't still have power to influence the minds of the masses. No one has read The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Don't Panic.
Do you remember the rice panic from a few months ago?
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 12:54:33 pm reply quote |
re: #95 jorline
World market at a glance...notice Iceland, no trading...broke!
But they have all that geothermal energy they can bottle and sell...
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BenZ's Bat 10/10/08 12:54:52 pm reply quote |
re: #92 ploome hineni
your father? BenZ? Yup, I'm his oldest daughter.
does not post anymore?
Doesn't even visit the sight anymore.
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Peacekeeper 10/10/08 12:54:56 pm reply quote |
“I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!”
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Egfrow 10/10/08 12:54:56 pm reply quote |
The lemmings jumped off the cliff two by two, hurah, hurah...
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Defector01 10/10/08 12:55:04 pm reply quote |
re: #95 jorline
Report is that Israel is going to buy Iceland and move the Palestinians there :-p
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 12:55:17 pm reply quote |
re: #88 Cap'n DOC
That's gonna take a day or two. Originals always take longer than parodies.
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Cap'n DOC 10/10/08 12:55:18 pm reply quote |
re: #100 buzzsawmonkey
Ain't that called Gerbil Warming?
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 10/10/08 12:55:20 pm reply quote |
re: #100 buzzsawmonkey
But they have all that geothermal energy they can bottle and sell...
What about fish oils?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil 10/10/08 12:56:01 pm reply quote |
Gas down to $2.56 a gallon at a few stations around here.
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littleoldlady 10/10/08 12:56:02 pm reply quote |
re: #97 ploome hineni
re: #52 BenZ's Bat
Not bad. mom's been doing well, sister's prego. You probably won't see dad around anymore. He decided that the ID v. Evo thing was getting to be too much. He thought he was banned after a certain comment that he made (I don't know which one). Either way he says this is Charles' house so he's not going to criticize but he's not going to visit anymore either.
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BenZ's Bat 10/10/08 12:56:21 pm reply quote |
re: #97 ploome hineni
He got tired of the ID v. Evo (he and I both support ID) hullabulloo.
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DeafDog 10/10/08 12:56:32 pm reply quote |
This Stock Market make anyone else feel like Gomez Adamms?
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Cap'n DOC 10/10/08 12:56:47 pm reply quote |
re: #111 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
You must be in the fine state of Mind. And I suppose your tank is full, right?
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 12:57:06 pm reply quote |
re: #117 DeafDog
This Stock Market make anyone else feel like Gomez Adamms?
It's two-headed turtles all the way down!
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turn 10/10/08 12:57:09 pm reply quote |
re: #110 eschew_obfuscation
IIRC that is a punchline to a joke, right? I can't remember the joke though.
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opnion 10/10/08 12:57:09 pm reply quote |
AS I see it the War on the Middle Class started with Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. It was a redistribution of wealth from the Middle Class to the poor. It was really an attempt to help with the guilt over slavery & other wickedness.
With an Obama Presidency, I am afraid that the Middle Class destruction will be complete.
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P. Aaron 10/10/08 12:57:20 pm reply quote |
I wish the Real Estate market would bottom out. Over all, we're still not out of the woods with potentially tens of thousands of foreclosures and fraudulent re-fi's to be realized.
Plus, Michigan's still got Granholm, so the recovery won't begin until she's outta here.
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jamgarr 10/10/08 12:57:25 pm reply quote |
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Egfrow 10/10/08 12:57:36 pm reply quote |
re: #98 DoubleU
Do you remember the rice panic from a few months ago?
Yes, Yes I do. I also remember the Onion Scare and the Jalepeno Pepper Scare.
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Egfrow 10/10/08 12:58:11 pm reply quote |
re: #126 Egfrow
Yes, Yes I do. I also remember the Onion Scare and the Jalepeno Pepper Scare.
And don't for the Mad Cow scare.
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JamesR 10/10/08 12:58:15 pm reply quote |
You go short, then cover, then go long, then sell... rinse, lather, repeat. Don't dare look away from the screens. Two more minutes and I can finally go to the wc and then go get a bite to eat. It's been a truly great two weeks.
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OldLineTexan 10/10/08 12:58:27 pm reply quote |
re: #113 buzzsawmonkey
They are all in the Hands of Cod.
Hasn't this grouper suffered enough? Be an angelfish and tuna way from your wicked ways.
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ploome hineni 10/10/08 12:58:35 pm reply quote |
re: #126 Egfrow
Yes, Yes I do. I also remember the Onion Scare and the Jalepeno Pepper Scare.
but the TOMATO
remember the TOMATO
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Sharmuta 10/10/08 12:59:11 pm reply quote |
re: #123 Intrepid
OT: Ace is reaching out to PUMAs.
I'm starting to wonder how many of our friendly bloggers are reading the spinoff links considering HotAir and now Ace have both linked to Hillbuzz today.
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SnakeSpit 10/10/08 12:59:14 pm reply quote |
re: #22 Defector01
I think you mean the bunny ranch?
I think jorline had it right.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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OldLineTexan 10/10/08 12:59:22 pm reply quote |
re: #117 DeafDog
This Stock Market make anyone else feel like Gomez Adamms?
I only feel like Gomez when reine de tout speaks French...it drives me wild.
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P. Aaron 10/10/08 12:59:22 pm reply quote |
We'll really bottom out when Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Obama, Raines and Jim Johnson are indicted. Until that happens, they are in a position to craft policies that perpetuate these boom & bust cycles.
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eschew_obfuscation 10/10/08 12:59:35 pm reply quote |
re: #121 turn
IIRC that is a punchline to a joke, right? I can't remember the joke though.
Little child on Christmas morning finds among the presents a pile of horse-sh@t. "OH BOY, OH BOY....THERE MUST BE A PONY HERE SOMEWHERE!"
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bringmeturi 10/10/08 12:59:59 pm reply quote |
re: #96 turn
looks like it was closer to EIGHT billion - although it took him 4 weeks, not two. I'd stay late for that kind of overtime....
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eschew_obfuscation 10/10/08 1:00:29 pm reply quote |
re: #124 P. Aaron
I wish the Real Estate market would bottom out. Over all, we're still not out of the woods with potentially tens of thousands of foreclosures and fraudulent re-fi's to be realized.
Plus, Michigan's still got Granholm, so the recovery won't begin until she's outta here.
Perhaps you could elect Ted Nugent!?
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turn 10/10/08 1:00:50 pm reply quote |
re: #138 eschew_obfuscation
Oh yeah, oh yeah .. good one and so appropriate.
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nyc redneck 10/10/08 1:00:57 pm reply quote |
re: #133 WriterMom
hey {WriterMom}
ill be having coffee w/ your dad tomorrow.
:D
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USA 10/10/08 1:01:25 pm reply quote |
A treasure trove of excellent material today at Gateway Pundit.
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Desert Dog 10/10/08 1:01:30 pm reply quote |
-58 could have been worse, it could have been raining
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opnion 10/10/08 1:02:22 pm reply quote |
I was talking with a guy at a trade show this week. He does pre-employment physicals. He said that his most solid market segment is the restaurant industry, from fine dining to fast food.
In his opinion, that industry is recession proof. Kind of surprised me.
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Intrepid 10/10/08 1:02:30 pm reply quote |
re: #134 Sharmuta
I'm starting to wonder how many of our friendly bloggers are reading the spinoff links considering HotAir and now Ace have both linked to Hillbuzz today.
Better late than never, eh? We've only been posting links from HC Forum and PUMAPac here for the past six weeks now...
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DoubleU 10/10/08 1:02:34 pm reply quote |
re: #146 Desert Dog
Still have to wait a bit for the numbers to catch up, and then any after hours trading.
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OldLineTexan 10/10/08 1:02:36 pm reply quote |
re: #124 P. Aaron
I wish the Real Estate market would bottom out. Over all, we're still not out of the Woods Foundation with potentially tens of thousands of foreclosures and fraudulent re-fi's to be realized.
Plus, Michigan's still got Granholm, so the recovery won't begin until she's outta here.
Obama needs to be stapled to his hijinks vis-a-vis all this.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:02:36 pm reply quote |
re: #77 Defector01
"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab
Heh - government should better heed what a Brit actor said to an actress at a rehersal: 'Don't just do something - stand there!'
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rightside 10/10/08 1:02:42 pm reply quote |
Charles,
May I suggest another category for spinoff links? I propose "Free Speech". The spinoff link I just posted about Mark Steyn's acquittal could have fit a couple categories, but I think would have fit best under that one.
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turn 10/10/08 1:02:58 pm reply quote |
re: #141 bringmeturi
looks like it was closer to EIGHT billion - although it took him 4 weeks, not two. I'd stay late for that kind of overtime....
Thanks for the link, too bad it doesn't mention how he did it. I guess he must have been shorting I don't know.
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Max Darkside 10/10/08 1:03:12 pm reply quote |
Hint1: Some large entity mentioned recently taking equity positions in companies.
Hint2: This is a 3 day weekend.
Hint3: The scare-cancer must be stopped
Someone familiar with the markets can figure out what likely happened.
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:03:14 pm reply quote |
Down 18.88 at the close.
We're, uh, middle class-ish! Time to wash the used Camry with Michelob Light!
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Egfrow 10/10/08 1:03:18 pm reply quote |
I think few traders with foriegn connections to and ties to some new upcoming legislature are behind this Yo Yo crap. Normal traders are either in or they are out. Short traders would have to be insane or very wealthy to play this game. One firm sell's high and buys the stock back low. Firm A. get's a loss write off. Firm B. Maintains a gain. What if both firms are connected and can afford to lose a certain amount for some (unknown to us) future gain.
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WriterMom 10/10/08 1:03:59 pm reply quote |
re: #157 Peacekeeper
{PEACEKEEPER-LEH}
I've missed you so! I was all busy attoning yesterday and wasn't on line!
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Racer X 10/10/08 1:04:22 pm reply quote |
re: #149 opnion
I was talking with a guy at a trade show this week. He does pre-employment physicals. He said that his most solid market segment is the restaurant industry, from fine dining to fast food.
In his opinion, that industry is recession proof. Kind of surprised me.
Fine dining has been slowing down. Fast food - McDonald's, Burger King, Sonic - has been doing great, and will continue to do so. IMO.
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:04:23 pm reply quote |
re: #159 Occasional Reader
Down 18.88 at the close.
We're, uh, middle class-ish! Time to wash the used Camry with Michelob Light!
Nope, spoke too soon. Numbers still coming in.
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Creeping Eruption 10/10/08 1:04:44 pm reply quote |
re: #159 Occasional Reader
Down 18.88 at the close.
We're, uh, middle class-ish! Time to wash the used Camry with Michelob Light!
I wouldn't wash my toilet bowl with Michelobe light.
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DoubleU 10/10/08 1:04:52 pm reply quote |
re: #149 opnion
I go out to lunch at least once a week and am surprised at how well restaurants are doing at lunch, I would figure a little slow down but I don't see it. The places that did go out of business did so because their rent was raised.
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ackomanyuki 10/10/08 1:05:01 pm reply quote |
re: #161 ackomanyuki
0.51%
If Obama was at the helm today the MSM would be claiming a strong recovery
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil 10/10/08 1:05:10 pm reply quote |
re: #118 Cap'n DOC
You must be in the fine state of Mind. And I suppose your tank is full, right?
Actually, it's not- Prices are expected to go down even further. I filled up on Sunday when it was $2.92.
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littleoldlady 10/10/08 1:05:49 pm reply quote |
re: #149 opnion
I grew up in the restaurant business, and I'm old enough to remember quite a few "bad economies", and that guy was right. As my daddy (z"l) always said, "People gotta eat!"
/thinking of opening a soup kitchen...
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:05:52 pm reply quote |
re: #158 Max Darkside
Hint1: Some large entity mentioned recently taking equity positions in companies.
Hint2: This is a 3 day weekend.
Hint3: The scare-cancer must be stoppedSomeone familiar with the markets can figure out what likely happened.
Oh, don't be coy...
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:05:58 pm reply quote |
re: #95 jorline
World market at a glance...notice Iceland, no trading...broke!
Yeah - and Russia up by 10.91% ...
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:05:58 pm reply quote |
re: #136 OldLineTexan
I only feel like Gomez when reine de tout speaks French...it drives me wild.
Bonjour, my cher! Comment êtes-vous aujourd'hui?
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Peacekeeper 10/10/08 1:06:16 pm reply quote |
re: #164 Occasional Reader
Today the Market has been up and down more than Bill Clinton's pants.
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:06:18 pm reply quote |
The question is, what is the Dhow doing in the Arab countries?
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Quad Mocha Matti 10/10/08 1:06:26 pm reply quote |
re: #23 littleoldlady
Manufactured chaos. We're being purposefully distracted from the election.
/bought shares in Amalgamated Tin Foil Hat, Ltd.
Let us know if you have sampled their wares - and if so, how's the reception of "snore-y" George Noory/Art BHell/et al on those things.
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nyc redneck 10/10/08 1:06:36 pm reply quote |
re: #147 WriterMom
i'm giving him a present for you.
:)
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lobo91 10/10/08 1:06:40 pm reply quote |
re: #138 eschew_obfuscation
Little child on Christmas morning finds among the presents a pile of horse-sh@t. "OH BOY, OH BOY....THERE MUST BE A PONY HERE SOMEWHERE!"
Actually, it's best known as a Reagan anecdote:
Over lunch today I asked Ed Meese about one of Reagan's favorite jokes. "The pony joke?" Meese replied. "Sure I remember it. If I heard him tell it once, I heard him tell it a thousand times."
The joke concerns twin boys of five or six. Worried that the boys had developed extreme personalities -- one was a total pessimist, the other a total optimist -- their parents took them to a psychiatrist.
First the psychiatrist treated the pessimist. Trying to brighten his outlook, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with brand-new toys. But instead of yelping with delight, the little boy burst into tears. "What's the matter?" the psychiatrist asked, baffled. "Don't you want to play with any of the toys?" "Yes," the little boy bawled, "but if I did I'd only break them."
Next the psychiatrist treated the optimist. Trying to dampen his out look, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with horse manure. But instead of wrinkling his nose in disgust, the optimist emitted just the yelp of delight the psychiatrist had been hoping to hear from his brother, the pessimist. Then he clambered to the top of the pile, dropped to his knees, and began gleefully digging out scoop after scoop with his bare hands. "What do you think you're doing?" the psychiatrist asked, just as baffled by the optimist as he had been by the pessimist. "With all this manure," the little boy replied, beaming, "there must be a pony in here somewhere!"
"Reagan told the joke so often," Meese said, chuckling, "that it got to be kind of a joke with the rest of us. Whenever something would go wrong, somebody on the staff would be sure to say, 'There must be a pony in here somewhere.'"
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Desert Dog 10/10/08 1:07:05 pm reply quote |
re: #169 ackomanyuki
Well, once he gets in, the Rainbows and Unicorn and Butterflies and sunshine will all return!
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twincitiesgirl 10/10/08 1:07:12 pm reply quote |
I hate roller coasters. The first pic is symbolic of where this keeps going....when will it end?
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opnion 10/10/08 1:07:12 pm reply quote |
re: #163 Racer X
Fine dining has been slowing down. Fast food - McDonald's, Burger King, Sonic - has been doing great, and will continue to do so. IMO.
That actually makes more sense. My guess would be that grocery stores would do very well, as discetionary income diminishes.
The guy swore though ,that fine dining was not suffering.
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ploome hineni 10/10/08 1:07:22 pm reply quote |
re: #149 opnion
I was talking with a guy at a trade show this week. He does pre-employment physicals. He said that his most solid market segment is the restaurant industry, from fine dining to fast food.
In his opinion, that industry is recession proof. Kind of surprised me.
fast food is cheaper than making it yourself and no cleanup
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 10/10/08 1:07:23 pm reply quote |
re: #176 buzzsawmonkey
The question is, what is the Dhow doing in the Arab countries?
The schooner we know, the better.
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Max Darkside 10/10/08 1:07:35 pm reply quote |
re: #172 Occasional Reader
Oh, don't be coy...
Heh... I'm not going to give the answer, but I would bet all the cash in my pocket on what I think.
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Peacekeeper 10/10/08 1:08:07 pm reply quote |
If it's any consolation, somewhere there are speculators sitting on thousands of barrels of $150 oil.
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:08:11 pm reply quote |
re: #184 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The schooner we know, the better.
I'll wait for yawl to tell me. And ketch the junk later.
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opnion 10/10/08 1:08:18 pm reply quote |
re: #167 DoubleU
I go out to lunch at least once a week and am surprised at how well restaurants are doing at lunch, I would figure a little slow down but I don't see it. The places that did go out of business did so because their rent was raised.
Pretty much, what the guy was telling me.
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Cap'n DOC 10/10/08 1:08:20 pm reply quote |
re: #127 Egfrow
That's it. I've had it. We've all got Crutchfeld-Jakobs disease, don't we?
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:09:13 pm reply quote |
re: #176 buzzsawmonkey
The question is, what is the Dhow doing in the Arab countries?
BUZZSAWMONKEY!
I have reserved some of your lgf poetry for possible inclusion in the cookbook.
May I use them, please?
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Desert Dog 10/10/08 1:09:24 pm reply quote |
re: #184 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The schooner we know, the better.
They are too busy playing with their dinghys to count
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 10/10/08 1:09:26 pm reply quote |
re: #186 Creeping Eruption
IF not, we'll have to punt.
Carefully though, we cant barge right in or it will just end up junk.
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Salem 10/10/08 1:09:33 pm reply quote |
I like how the Dow drops 25 points after the bell rings...
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opnion 10/10/08 1:10:05 pm reply quote |
re: #183 ploome hineni
fast food is cheaper than making it yourself and no cleanup
When you think about it, that is probably true & the no clean up is a big bonus. So on to fast food & let's grow & have heart attacks!
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Cap'n DOC 10/10/08 1:10:06 pm reply quote |
re: #176 buzzsawmonkey
Floating - although plugged for the moment.
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pink freud 10/10/08 1:10:18 pm reply quote |
Way OT:
If any of you collect rare cane begonias and are interested in acquiring starts of some of the more spectacular ones, my email is blue. Time for pre-winter pruning.
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:10:40 pm reply quote |
re: #194 reine.de.tout
BUZZSAWMONKEY!
I have reserved some of your lgf poetry for possible inclusion in the cookbook.May I use them, please?
Probably, yes--but let me know which ones, please.
The nic, she is blue.
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unreconstructed rebel 10/10/08 1:10:40 pm reply quote |
So, this is what happens when the market starts watching the polls instead of business?
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jorline 10/10/08 1:10:42 pm reply quote |
re: #100 buzzsawmonkey
But they have all that geothermal energy they can bottle and sell...
Economic and Global Warming...they're bottling water from the meltdown.
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taxfreekiller 10/10/08 1:10:56 pm reply quote |
the original joke used "horse shit"
the brat kid was the ranch owners kid
the kid who wanted a horse was the top hands kid
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:10:58 pm reply quote |
Good news:
Mark Steyn acquitted in Canadian sharia case
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DoubleU 10/10/08 1:11:00 pm reply quote |
re: #197 Salem
After Hours trading and the numbers you see are on a fifteen minutes delay.
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Creeping Eruption 10/10/08 1:11:10 pm reply quote |
re: #200 pink freud
Way OT:
If any of you collect rare cane begonias and are interested in acquiring starts of some of the more spectacular ones, my email is blue. Time for pre-winter pruning.
You drop them in the mail?
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Creeping Eruption 10/10/08 1:11:36 pm reply quote |
re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Carefully though, we cant barge right in or it will just end up junk.
and we will al be left to scow-l
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Quintus_Arius 10/10/08 1:11:58 pm reply quote |
This is key to Monday:
"The president spoke ahead of his Saturday meeting in Washington with finance ministers and central bankers from the Group of Seven industrialized countries — the United States, Japan, Britain, Germany, France Italy and Canada. The officials are also meeting with Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson, who is spearheading the administration's financial rescue."
Any game changing announcement from this group over the weekend could trigger an upside surge, but expect volatility until after the election and beyond.
All I can say now is 'work your ass off for John and Sarah'. I'm doing the best I can from my den here on the left-coast. Shed light on Barack Obama and get it to the electorate. BHO has been riding on a wave of ignorance but it is flattening out..
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:12:01 pm reply quote |
re: #175 Peacekeeper
Today the Market has been up and down more than Bill Clinton's pants.
Watching the late numbers chugging in, I'm reminded of the Bart vs. Lisa Magic Fingers motel bed race.
"Come on, Stinky!"
"Come on, Spotty!"
(something like that)
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DeafDog 10/10/08 1:12:51 pm reply quote |
re: #137 P. Aaron
We'll really bottom out when Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Obama, Raines and Jim Johnson are indicted. Until that happens, they are in a position to craft policies that perpetuate these boom & bust cycles.
Indictments would be nice, but I'm not that hopeful.
I just want to see Dodd and Franks voted out!
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ploome hineni 10/10/08 1:13:15 pm reply quote |
re: #198 opnion
When you think about it, that is probably true & the no clean up is a big bonus. So on to fast food & let's grow & have heart attacks!
mom and Dan working....time to cook, price of gas, I throw half the veges and fruits I buy away..they don;t last very long
you don;t have to fight with the kids to eat pizza or burger
and you don;t have to run the dishwasher and fight with the kids to help
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Quad Mocha Matti 10/10/08 1:14:00 pm reply quote |
Hmm. When the (oba)Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And the (oba) Messiah is absolutely speaking. Word up, G.
Such profound words from Calypso Louie!
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Creeping Eruption 10/10/08 1:14:01 pm reply quote |
re: #201 buzzsawmonkey
Re: LGF e-mail. Is there a way to send/receive mail w/o leaving your name in it (i.e. my e-mail is my name)? I have never used the LGF safe-mail before.
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SFGoth 10/10/08 1:14:37 pm reply quote |
There are people who make money no matter which way the market goes, as long as it goes. They're the ones who charge per-trade commissions.
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pink freud 10/10/08 1:16:00 pm reply quote |
re: #207 Creeping Eruption
yes, CE, I pack them well so they will survive shipping and ship them off in priority mail boxes. I've been a member at gardenweb (their plant exchange is the best out there) for ten years and have acquired many unique plants this way. If you can root them, I can get you started. Please email though, I don't want to clutter the thread with my plant-mania. :-)
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:16:01 pm reply quote |
re: #216 Creeping Eruption
Re: LGF e-mail. Is there a way to send/receive mail w/o leaving your name in it (i.e. my e-mail is my name)? I have never used the LGF safe-mail before.
There's a filter before you can use it, so that not just anyone can access it.
What your name comes across as if/when you reply depends on your accounts.
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:16:04 pm reply quote |
-128, I *think* that's the final figure for the Dow.
Well, um, coulda been a lot worse. And Nasdaq finished up a bit.
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turn 10/10/08 1:16:19 pm reply quote |
Yahoo shows -126.
That's it for me folks, time to go walk the lab along the American.
Next time you hear from me it's going to be from Beijing, that is if they don't block LGF.
If I use the hotel connection I'm sure I'll have to cleanse my computer of spyware and shit when I get back, those Chinese are sneaky little hackers.
I've already been warned about what to avoid mentioning in corporate email from there, they keep their eye on visitors and look out for dissenters that's for sure.
Chat with you all then, take care and don't despair.
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USA 10/10/08 1:16:20 pm reply quote |
New McCain commercial is excellent. Ties Obama's character issues and lies about Acorn involvement to the financial meltdown. Very well done.
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Dianna 10/10/08 1:16:46 pm reply quote |
re: #208 littleoldlady
pink! :-)
The deer ate my entire garden this year! :-(
You're going to lie in wait, aren't you? I know better than to anger a gardener!
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WriterMom 10/10/08 1:16:56 pm reply quote |
re: #216 Creeping Eruption
You could set up a Yahoo, G-mail or hotmail account just for that purpose, and then post it publicly here spelled out (don't put an '@'). But then, anyone seeing the page would see it.
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:17:00 pm reply quote |
re: #216 Creeping Eruption
Re: LGF e-mail. Is there a way to send/receive mail w/o leaving your name in it (i.e. my e-mail is my name)? I have never used the LGF safe-mail before.
I have a separate gmail account that doesn't have my name in it.
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pink freud 10/10/08 1:18:32 pm reply quote |
re: #208 littleoldlady
pink! :-)
The deer ate my entire garden this year! :-(
HI LOL! Deer! I wouldn't know what to do with deer. All I have to worry about are the overaggressive squirrels knocking things down.
/and hurricanes, of course : -)
Good to see you! It's 80 degrees and I have the day off, so I've been on the patio all day reveling in nature. It's wonderful!
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Egfrow 10/10/08 1:18:55 pm reply quote |
Cavuto on Fox is covering a Pro Capitalism Prostest live now. Someone had a sign that says' Commies out of Congress Now! LOL!
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opnion 10/10/08 1:19:00 pm reply quote |
re: #211 Quintus_Arius
This is key to Monday:
Any game changing announcement from this group over the weekend could trigger an upside surge, but expect volatility until after the election and beyond.All I can say now is 'work your ass off for John and Sarah'. I'm doing the best I can from my den here on the left-coast. Shed light on Barack Obama and get it to the electorate. BHO has been riding on a wave of ignorance but it is flattening out..
This is disconcerting. I live in a really Republican area & There ar more Obama Yard signs than McCain. On my block the only McCain yard sign is me.
I believe that people fear vadalism. I had the yard sign stolen once & replaced it, but nothing more serious.
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Quad Mocha Matti 10/10/08 1:19:19 pm reply quote |
re: #234 Quad Mocha Matti
you spin me 'round like a yo-yo?
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DoubleU 10/10/08 1:20:53 pm reply quote |
re: #237 null
I live in a very democrat area and I see more McCain/Palin signs. The McCain signs disappeared after the primaries but were replaced with McCain/Palin recently.
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opnion 10/10/08 1:20:58 pm reply quote |
re: #214 ploome hineni
mom and Dan working....time to cook, price of gas, I throw half the veges and fruits I buy away..they don;t last very long
you don;t have to fight with the kids to eat pizza or burger
and you don;t have to run the dishwasher and fight with the kids to help
Hey, I personally will take pizza every time & it actually is not junk food.
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Charles 10/10/08 1:21:15 pm reply quote |
NOTE!
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Oldasdirt 10/10/08 1:21:38 pm reply quote |
re: #236 Egfrow
Cavuto on Fox is covering a Pro Capitalism Prostest live now. Someone had a sign that says' Commies out of Congress Now! LOL!
That would leave alot of empty seats.
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sparrowlake 10/10/08 1:22:25 pm reply quote |
re: #205 reine.de.tout
Good news:
Mark Steyn acquitted in Canadian sharia case
It's a great day for Human Rights in Canada!
Yes, HUMAN RIGHTS!
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lostlakehiker 10/10/08 1:22:52 pm reply quote |
re: #17 Power Armored Lizardoid
Wow, one of the few times I'm glad I haven't been investing in the market...Just precious metals like copper, lead, and brass...
Lead...a precious metal. Man, we've come a long ways down.
One of the things about a scientifically advancing economy is how scarcity has a way of bringing forth workarounds. Copper was in tighter supply before we figured out how to use silicon to make fiber optic cables. That freed up most of the copper used by the telecom industry. Look now for carbon fiber in automobiles and airplanes, etc. etc.
There may be a problem with the rare earth elements used in solar photovoltaic. If there is no alternative to those elements as ingredients in solar power cells, large scale solar energy will have to come from using mirrors to concentrate heat and run some sort of thermal cycle engine. This is a promising path anyhow, but it cannot be done small scale and distributed.
You're probably better off investing in these industrially useful metals than in gold. Today's price far exceeds the cost of getting more of the stuff out of the ground, and if somehow the price stayed up where it is now, more mines could be profitably brought back into operation. Unless demand grew tremendously, this would have to force the price down some.
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:22:52 pm reply quote |
RELOADING!
[drops empty mag slaps in fresh one chambers round]
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SnakeSpit 10/10/08 1:22:55 pm reply quote |
Winter storms coming to the mid-west this weekend. Damn global warming!
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Egfrow 10/10/08 1:24:28 pm reply quote |
re: #242 null
That would leave alot of empty seats.
Cavuto has gained alot of respect with me since he put that smack down on Bill O'Reilly. Cavuto and Hanity are the only things going on with Fox.
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HoosierHoops 10/10/08 1:24:50 pm reply quote |
re: #240 null
Hey, I personally will take pizza every time & it actually is not junk food.
Pizza will make you fat if you eat too much of it.. I just eat some of the toppings and toss the bread..
/yea.. I know I'm crazy
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opnion 10/10/08 1:25:13 pm reply quote |
re: #239 null
I live in a very democrat area and I see more McCain/Palin signs. The McCain signs disappeared after the primaries but were replaced with McCain/Palin recently.
Very odd. I have a neighbor down the street that is ver active in Repub politics. He actually got to one of Bush's Inaugural balls, you know where republicans all dance like Al Gore to Proud Mary. He does not have a McCain yard sign. I want to see more, but I am in Illinois & maybe they just see it as a lost cause.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:25:49 pm reply quote |
re: #231 goddessoftheclassroom
OT - hi goddess!~Could you please be so kind and put my dear friend and neighbour, Anne, on the Lizard prayer list?
She's got a blood disorder, and its not looking good.
Thank you, and thank you to all Lizards.
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sparrowlake 10/10/08 1:26:04 pm reply quote |
re: #234 null
you spin me 'round like a
recordyo-yo?
Whatta ya want, good grammar or good taste?
- channeling punch line from old dirty joke
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Desert Dog 10/10/08 1:26:10 pm reply quote |
Anyone else having trouble playing that new McCain ad?
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eschew_obfuscation 10/10/08 1:26:43 pm reply quote |
re: #250 HoosierHoops
Pizza will make you fat if you eat too much of it.. I just eat some of the toppings and toss the bread..
/yea.. I know I'm crazy
Makes you realize how little topping there is on most pizza....
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DoubleU 10/10/08 1:27:08 pm reply quote |
re: #251 opnion
That was my comment you quoted, I live in Palm Beach county, and they are still recounting so Algore can dance here.
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jamgarr 10/10/08 1:27:09 pm reply quote |
re: #251 opnion
Very odd. I have a neighbor down the street that is ver active in Repub politics. He actually got to one of Bush's Inaugural balls, you know where republicans all dance like Al Gore to Proud Mary. He does not have a McCain yard sign. I want to see more, but I am in Illinois & maybe they just see it as a lost cause.
You are correct, sir. There is NO McCain campaign office within 30 miles of my house. We had to order our yard sign and bumper stickers from the national website.
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HoosierHoops 10/10/08 1:27:12 pm reply quote |
re: #252 null
OT - hi goddess!~Could you please be so kind and put my dear friend and neighbour, Anne, on the Lizard prayer list?
She's got a blood disorder, and its not looking good.
Thank you, and thank you to all Lizards.
Sorry to hear that yma...
Hiya Goddess! It's friday! Isn't that great?
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:27:29 pm reply quote |
re: #251 opnion
Illinois will go for Obama, legitimately or not. A McCain vote is pretty much wasted there--though it would certainly be sweet if Downstate were to outvote the Cook County Machine.
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:27:33 pm reply quote |
re: #237 null
This is disconcerting. I live in a really Republican area & There ar more Obama Yard signs than McCain. On my block the only McCain yard sign is me.
I believe that people fear vadalism. I had the yard sign stolen once & replaced it, but nothing more serious.
You live in a northern 'burb in Cook, IIRC? Down here, in Joliet's west side, Plainfield, and Shorewood, I see almost nothing but McCain signs. A few Obama bumper stickers, but that's it. Even the Larry Walsh (D) supporters (Will County county executive) lack Obama signs.
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Desert Dog 10/10/08 1:27:43 pm reply quote |
Anyone else having trouble playing that new McCain ad?
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Rednek 10/10/08 1:28:41 pm reply quote |
Pakistani politics
The Taliban continue to attack the nascent tribal organizing against it movement in Pakistan’s turbulent northwest. A suicide bomber struck at a meeting of Ali Zai tribal leaders in the Arakzai tribal agency, killing 22 and wounding more than 40.
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DoubleU 10/10/08 1:28:46 pm reply quote |
Now that I am thinking about it, Fred Thompson was in Palm Beach County today.
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Cognito 10/10/08 1:29:07 pm reply quote |
Man, if I could have just bought at every low and sold at every high today, I could retire from one day's fluctuations.
Too bad I'm not clairvoyant.
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Josephine 10/10/08 1:29:11 pm reply quote |
OT:
Goddess,
If you're still here, would you please add my daughter to the prayer list? She's just been diagnosed with a rare, chronic illness that has been making her sick for quite some time. We're hoping the treatment helps.
Thank you!
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Charles 10/10/08 1:29:24 pm reply quote |
Again I note:
You'll need to reload the page, or the "reply/quote" buttons may not work correctly. That's why you're seeing all these "null" usernames.
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chicagodudewhotrades 10/10/08 1:29:28 pm reply quote |
This is way OT but does the lizard community mind giving me some initial thoughts and advice on a new blog post I'm writing up on why I think McCain will still pull this out on Election Day? Keep in mind that is is a very rough draft but here is what I have so far:
I still believe Mccain will be the next President
I still believe that John McCain will be the next President of the United States of America. First of all, contrary to some pundits, the election hasn't happened yet. A month is a lifetime in politics. Anything, and I mean anything can happen between now and Election day. I have a variety of reasons for believing that McCain will pull this out. These reasons go from a biased media that has problems reporting the truth, to Obama himself and his campaign. Let us take a look at them in detail.
Media Bias
I believe that media bias will backfire on Election Day. I think the American people are way smarter then the Liberal media in this country are willing to admit. Americans don't like being told what to do. They also don't like being called 'racist' if they don't vote for Obama. I know I don't. Mainstream media in this nation is, to a degree, a dying profession. i think this will be the last election where they have a sizable effect. The media in this country have never been fully trusted. I think this will be the last straw. media bias has been showing itself in a couple different forms. it goes from "Guess the party affliation' when a Dem politican gets in legal trouble compared to if the pol was a GOP'er where his party gets named in every other sentence. The media is clearly in the tank for obama. they have NEVER questioned him hard. they can go up to Wassila Alaska and find out that 20 years ago Todd palin got a DUI but they can't pursue and look into Obama's ties to ACORN, or Ayers, or Trinity United, or Obama's grades at Harvard, or any papers he wrote at HLR, or anything that may damage 'the one'. Lets call this what it is: BS.
Polling Data
How accurate is the national polling data? I do believe that it offers some accurate information about possible voting trends but it shouldn't be considered 100% accurate.There is a well known phrase that says "The only accurate poll takes place on Election Day". There are some media stories that are reporting that GOP-leaning voters are being under-sampled (need link). Another factor i believe that will have a serious effect on election Day is the "Bradley Effect" ([Link: en.wikipedia.org...] i think this is good for about 5% (at least) of Obama polling numbers. if you add the combination of the bradley effect and the average poll's margin of error together this would make the race a dead heat or even a plus for McCain instead of the current polling that shows a Obama lead.
Obama's Friends
I think the whole situation involving some of Senator Obama's shady friends will have a effect on Election Day. Bill Ayer's Weather Underground membership and what exactly his ties to obama are are finally beginning to get attention and affect voter opinion. Americans don't like terrorism, no matter the cause. Ayers is a unrepentant creep. His friendship with obama does matter.
Will 'Change' Only Help The Democrats?
The conventional wisdom offered by the biased media in this country is that this is a Democrat year. Really? What type of 'Change' do the American people truly want? A under-reported fact is that for the last 2 years that the Dem party has controlled Congress they have had lower approval ratings then even the President (link needed). If Americans truly want 'Change' wouldn't this mean tossing the Dems out?
to be continued.......
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opnion 10/10/08 1:29:30 pm reply quote |
re: #250 null
Pizza will make you fat if you eat too much of it.. I just eat some of the toppings and toss the bread..
/yea.. I know I'm crazy
Yeah you have to moderate it, but I am like that Ninja Turtle , that just loves it.
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opnion 10/10/08 1:30:49 pm reply quote |
re: #256 null
That was my comment you quoted, I live in Palm Beach county, and they are still recounting so Algore can dance here.
IF I can dance better than him, he is a slug.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:30:57 pm reply quote |
re: #266 Charles
Again I note:
You'll need to reload the page, or the "reply/quote" buttons may not work correctly. That's why you're seeing all these "null" usernames.
Heh - I reloaded, being very obedient ... no probs here on ye olde FF3.03!
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:31:02 pm reply quote |
re: #259 null
Illinois will go for Obama, legitimately or not. A McCain vote is pretty much wasted there--though it would certainly be sweet if Downstate were to outvote the Cook County Machine.
I'd relish it. My county (Will) went for Bush in 2000 and 2004, and has been growing rapidly, as have the counties next door (Grundy and Kendall). Both of these also went for Bush in 2000 and 2004.
We just have to convince Peoria, St Clair, and Champaign Counties that it is in their best intrest to oppose anything from Cook County.
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littleoldlady 10/10/08 1:31:19 pm reply quote |
re: #228 null
You're going to lie in wait, aren't you? I know better than to anger a gardener!
We're thinking about getting a crossbow...
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Outrider 10/10/08 1:31:23 pm reply quote |
re: #251 opnion
Very odd. I have a neighbor down the street that is ver active in Repub politics. He actually got to one of Bush's Inaugural balls, you know where republicans all dance like Al Gore to Proud Mary. He does not have a McCain yard sign. I want to see more, but I am in Illinois & maybe they just see it as a lost cause.
Probably like most people, they are just afraid to put out any kind of McCain/Palin matter. Cars get keyed, signs stolen, yards vandalized. In that area, people may be worried they will be targeted if Obama wins/loses on election night.
I'm just contrary and I put the stuff up. I get people driving by all day waving, honking horns, etc... I also get people that come up when I'm out and ask questions and talk. I've encountered very few cases of hostility and only one where there were implied threats. I merely look over to my old mattock handle leaning against the wall.
Don't be intimidated. That is what certain folks want.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:32:00 pm reply quote |
re: #265 Josephine
OT:
Goddess,
If you're still here, would you please add my daughter to the prayer list? She's just been diagnosed with a rare, chronic illness that has been making her sick for quite some time. We're hoping the treatment helps.
Thank you!
I'm so sorry - for the both of you. Here's hoping the treatment works!
{Josephine}
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Creeping Eruption 10/10/08 1:32:19 pm reply quote |
Thanks for the e-mail help folks. I am the proud father of a new G-Mail account. NIC going blue in a few minutes.
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nyc redneck 10/10/08 1:32:28 pm reply quote |
re: #265 Josephine
OT:
Goddess,
If you're still here, would you please add my daughter to the prayer list? She's just been diagnosed with a rare, chronic illness that has been making her sick for quite some time. We're hoping the treatment helps.
Thank you!
so sorry to hear this, {Josephine}
i hope the treatment helps too.
prayers and best wishes to you and your daughter,
for her speedy recovery.
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Josephine 10/10/08 1:32:33 pm reply quote |
I haven't been on LGF for a few days. The comment box looks different. What has changed? Is it the font and colour of the comment number?
It looks great but I feel like I'm trying to figure out why a coworker looks different. (Did he shave a beard or mustache? Darn it, why can't I remember, I see him every day?)
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chicagodudewhotrades 10/10/08 1:33:49 pm reply quote |
The Current Economic Trouble
Yes, the economy is in a bad place right now. But will the current economic problems favor only the Dems on Election Day? There is finally some media reporting of Dem attempts to block any review of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae accounting/book-keeping practices over the last few years (link needed). The Dems viewed those companies as cushy jobs for loyal dem party members. The Dems also used these companies as piggy banks for people who truly shouldn't have been buying homes. That knowledge will hurt the Dems. Americans ARE truly upset about what has happened, i think they will take out some of that anger on the Dem party.
Senator Obama And His Campaign Staff
Is Senator Obama and his staff arrogent? i believe they are. Even some Liberal media types are finally beginning to report on this (link needed). A lot of joking was made during Obama's nomination speech about the "Greek temple' backdrop he used. However, I once read a different take on this (link needed). during Obama's european adventure, he wanted to give a speech at berlin's Brandenburg gate. the German governent declined to provide that location so Senator Obama had to move the speech to a different berlin location. those were not "Greek Columns' in the background stage. they were mock ups of the brandenburg gate. basically, obama didn't get what he wanted during his trip, so he want ahead at invesco field and did it anyway. if that isn't a sign of arrogance, what the hell is? His arrogance has filtered down to his campaign staff. there are reports that his staff doesn't listen to other dem party members or accept advice from them (link needed). Also the Obama staff has been setting up "Obama-only" campaign offices and that he doesn't fund-raise for other party members or provide money to the national party (link needed). that has got to rankle other Dems, Will that have a effect on election day?, I think it will.
PUMA Factor/Women's Vote
Has the Nomination of Senator Obama caused irrepairable damage to the Dem party? I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but i do think in terms of experience and overall political knowledge she would have made a better candidate then Obama. I think the party's rejection of Hillary and McCain's choice of Sara palin will affect the women's vote in major ways. Polling data is showing that Senator Obama is Still not closing the deal with Women voters (link needed) If women go for McCain in a big way, Obama is in trouble.
Youth Vote
Will the Youth vote actaully show up for Senator Obama on election day? If past trends are looked at, i would say the answer is NO. (link needed for '04 youth vote trends) In the '04 election cycle the much vaunted 'youth vote' was supposed to be firmly in the tank for John kerry. How did that work out of Kerry? Is John kerry currently president of the United states of America? enough said about the 'youth vote'. i hate to be cynical, but they will NOT be a factor on Election Day. ("Dude, did you vote today?. Aww hell man, i was too busy updating my Facebook page. i totally forget about voting').
Bottom Line, i still believe that john McCain will be the next president. If you have any thoughts, comments, whatever i can be reached at chicagodudewhotrades@gmail.com. thank You for your time
Like I said this is a very rough draft, I'm still trying to get the hang of writing. I have good ideas sometimes but I have noticed that I have a problem closing my articles out with a strong finish. Any help and ideas to improve my writing will be greatly appreciated. thanks
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Oldasdirt 10/10/08 1:34:43 pm reply quote |
re: #262 Rednek
Pakistani politics
The Taliban continue to attack the nascent tribal organizing against it movement in Pakistan’s turbulent northwest. A suicide bomber struck at a meeting of Ali Zai tribal leaders in the Arakzai tribal agency, killing 22 and wounding more than 40.
How can this be! Peacefull muslums killing other peacefull muslums?
In there religion they want nothing but peace.Please say it aint so.
Do I need the (sarc) thingy?
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opnion 10/10/08 1:35:03 pm reply quote |
re: #259 null
Illinois will go for Obama, legitimately or not. A McCain vote is pretty much wasted there--though it would certainly be sweet if Downstate were to outvote the Cook County Machine.
I think that no matter what , it is important to vote to gin up McCains popular vote. I f he does squeak in , I do not want to hear the Dem's whine that their guy got the popular vote
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Archimedes 10/10/08 1:35:17 pm reply quote |
re: #15 rawmuse
Before the '29 crash, it did the same thing, oddly. Huge swings, then the bottom.
uh oh.
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:35:27 pm reply quote |
re: #252 yma o hyd
Lizard Prayer List 10/10/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope
Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.
Thanksgivings
Mark Steyn: acquitted
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
turn: basal cell carcinoma (cancer) completely removed
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
realwest: recovered from dental issues
vxhush: husband recovering well from rotator cuff surgery
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans
Health issues:
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
Dublic(CA)Dude - serious health issues
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
LeePro: major oral surgery in July
A Lizard who underwent surgery Monday, 8/17/08
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: cancer; mom Type II diabetes
Dolphin: friend Stan, open heart surgery
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: waiting for results of tests for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; facing another surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer
/cont'd
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:35:28 pm reply quote |
re: #267 chicagodudewhotrades
The question is:
a) how much of this information will get out to people who don't follow the political sites the way we do? and
b) how many of the people who get this information will think about it instead of simply dismissing it because of their desire either to "cast a historic vote" or to piss on GWB by proxy?
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Dianna 10/10/08 1:35:28 pm reply quote |
re: #264 Cognito
Man, if I could have just bought at every low and sold at every high today, I could retire from one day's fluctuations.
Too bad I'm not clairvoyant.
You OK, Cog?
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sparrowlake 10/10/08 1:35:40 pm reply quote |
re: #264 Cognito
Man, if I could have just bought at every low and sold at every high today, I could retire from one day's fluctuations.
Too bad I'm not clairvoyant.
LOL. You just reminded me of one of my elderly Jewish in-laws who would constantly regale me (ad nauseum) with stories of all the chances he had missed to make numerous fortunes. And to have heard him tell it, he was a victim of fate and the higher powers in each instance.
Hindsight is an ass!
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:36:00 pm reply quote |
Lizard Prayer List, cont'd:
Family, friend, and life situations:
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Newsjunkie: loss of her dog
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: various
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: best result for new foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general
Community issues:
Our country facing financial challenges & the election
Georgia/Ossetia
Those dealing with the hurricanes
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice
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Dianna 10/10/08 1:36:14 pm reply quote |
re: #272 littleoldlady
We're thinking about getting a crossbow...
Just be sure of your target, and what's beyond it.
Crossbows are very powerful.
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Cicero05 10/10/08 1:36:20 pm reply quote |
re: #279 chicagodudewhotrades
I'll take some optimism from anyplace I can get it at this point. Thanks for your observations.
WERE NOT DEAD YET!
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:36:47 pm reply quote |
re: #264 Cognito
Too bad I'm not clairvoyant.
Be glad you're not. Claire Voyant was banned for making rude remarks some time ago.
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DoubleU 10/10/08 1:37:19 pm reply quote |
re: #288 Dianna
A lot more powerful then you think, until you see it go through a garage wall and into the family room.
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godfrey 10/10/08 1:37:22 pm reply quote |
George Soros has written a new book called THE NEW PARADIGM FOR FINANCIAL MARKETS: The Credit Crisis of 2008 and What it Means. In it he predicts the end of an era: the end of a long phase of stability, the end of the dominance of the US market, and the end of the dollar.
Natch.
I think it's thread-worthy, given his role in the US election.
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Dirk Diggler 10/10/08 1:37:23 pm reply quote |
"Auntie Em, Uncle Henry, Toto! It's a twister! It's a twister!..."
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kansas 10/10/08 1:37:49 pm reply quote |
re: #281 opnion
I think that no matter what , it is important to vote to gin up McCains popular vote. I f he does squeak in , I do not want to hear the Dem's whine that their guy got the popular vote
If McCain gets in your'e gonna hear a lot more than whine. As much as I fear an Obama President, I fear not letting him have it. Anybody else fear riots, looting, and general chaos?
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:37:53 pm reply quote |
re: #283 goddessoftheclassroom
Thank you so much, goddess - its very much appreciated!
Lizard prayers are truly giving strength and help.
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chicagodudewhotrades 10/10/08 1:38:05 pm reply quote |
re: #284 buzzsawmonkey
Those are good points. No simple answer to counter that thinking.
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:38:25 pm reply quote |
re: #288 Dianna
Just be sure of your target, and what's beyond it.
Crossbows are very powerful.
I know. Been thinking about getting one since Illinois is typically treated as a gun-free zone.
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Egfrow 10/10/08 1:38:30 pm reply quote |
Obama is attacking McCain's crowds as being angry and bitter. He say's we should not be angry and divisive. We should all just agree to get along. We should lay on the ground with our pants below our knees and our wallets in our hands. We may even be asked to open the tube of K-Y Jelly as a courtesy before we are raped and robbed by the Communist Democratic party. We are not supposed to fight back.
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jamgarr 10/10/08 1:38:35 pm reply quote |
re: #295 kansas
If McCain gets in your'e gonna hear a lot more than whine. As much as I fear an Obama President, I fear not letting him have it. Anybody else fear riots, looting, and general chaos?
Dogs and cats living in sin!
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DaddyG 10/10/08 1:38:38 pm reply quote |
re: #167 DoubleU
I go out to lunch at least once a week and am surprised at how well restaurants are doing at lunch, I would figure a little slow down but I don't see it. The places that did go out of business did so because their rent was raised.
A family friend finally gave up and closed his restaurant last week. A nice Italian place in a strip mall - fantastic food - strip mall atmosphere. He wasn't bringing in enough business in our suburban area. The place a few doors down was doing a booming business but it was all liquer sales.
I think the increased gas prices (made worse by the supply to Atlanta suffering post-Ike) took to much discretionary income out of our collective middle class pockets.
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Josephine 10/10/08 1:38:41 pm reply quote |
re: #275 yma o hyd
re: #277 nyc redneck
Thank you. The last few years have been very stressful. She's had fairly bad symptoms since last November and, although the specialist suspected this illness, she only did the biopsies last month. Yes, Canadian healthcare; speedy it ain't.
It's not life-threatening but it's serious. At least we finally know what it is so we can try the treatment(s). We're trying to stay positive because what else can you do? It is what it is.
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:38:46 pm reply quote |
re: #294 Dirk Diggler
"Auntie Em, Uncle Henry, Toto! It's a twister! It's a twister!..."
That sounds so much more ominous than, "It's a Scrabble! It's a Scrabble!"
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:39:00 pm reply quote |
re: #265 Josephine
OT:
Goddess,
If you're still here, would you please add my daughter to the prayer list? She's just been diagnosed with a rare, chronic illness that has been making her sick for quite some time. We're hoping the treatment helps.
Thank you!
{Josephone}
I had just posted the list when I saw your message. I've added your daughter's name now. Be sure to take care of yourself, too. I truly hope that having a diagnosis is bringing you both renewed hope and strength.
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kansas 10/10/08 1:39:15 pm reply quote |
re: #284 buzzsawmonkey
The question is:
a) how much of this information will get out to people who don't follow the political sites the way we do? and
b) how many of the people who get this information will think about it instead of simply dismissing it because of their desire either to "cast a historic vote" or to piss on GWB by proxy?
Well, my idiot son in law, who just left my daughter, is a troofer and told her if McCain gets in we will all die because he will pull out of Iraq and the terrorists will then come here and kill us. How can you even deal with morons like this?
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DaddyG 10/10/08 1:39:27 pm reply quote |
re: #264 null
Man, if I could have just bought at every low and sold at every high today, I could retire from one day's fluctuations.
Too bad I'm not clairvoyant.
I knew Clair - always seemed to know where she was going.
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:39:54 pm reply quote |
re: #294 Dirk Diggler
"Auntie Em, Uncle Henry, Toto! It's a twister! It's a twister!..."
Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
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Outrider 10/10/08 1:40:22 pm reply quote |
re: #284 buzzsawmonkey
a) how much of this information will get out to people who don't follow the political sites the way we do? and
This is a major point. Our blogs usually go to those like-minded folks. Friends and relatives will check them out for loyalties sake, but will probably not come back if there is nothing to interest them or if it is to opposed to their viewpoints. This is a point I've been trying to work with also.
I found a major factor is in naming the subject of the post. The right title will get you on a search-engine faster than a lot of hits. My observation only.
It doesn't hurt to use correct grammar (I don't always succeed) and SPELL CHECK!
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:40:50 pm reply quote |
re: #308 Honorary Yooper
Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
You can always go huffing at HuffPo.
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twincitiesgirl 10/10/08 1:41:03 pm reply quote |
re: #145 USA
A treasure trove of excellent material today at Gateway Pundit.
The McCain ads are excellent and very well done. Too bad he can't afford a half hour spot on tv as Obama is doing on the 29th of this month.
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Cicero05 10/10/08 1:41:11 pm reply quote |
re: #307 DaddyG
I knew Clair - always seemed to know where she was going.
I'll bet she was never suprised to see you either.
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unreconstructed rebel 10/10/08 1:41:19 pm reply quote |
... fear [of] riots, looting, and general chaos
God help us all when that becomes the motivation for voting for or against someone or something.
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sparrowlake 10/10/08 1:41:28 pm reply quote |
re: #295 kansas
If McCain gets in your'e gonna hear a lot more than whine. As much as I fear an Obama President, I fear not letting him have it. Anybody else fear riots, looting, and general chaos?
WTF? Why don't you just go ahead and slit your wrists?/
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Dianna 10/10/08 1:41:35 pm reply quote |
re: #292 DoubleU
Yes, that is rather what I was thinking of.
In actuality, you're better off firing a shotgun, in some cases.
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formercorpsman 10/10/08 1:41:40 pm reply quote |
re: #293 godfrey
This is what I have been hinting at for the last couple of days.
3 Wood kept talking about the naked short selling, and if anyone cares to look at history, this is exactly how Soros makes his money.
Numerous Economists, Investors, all float theories about how the market works.
His is something called reflexivity.
I becoming convinced, this bastard is stirring the pot.
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Outrider 10/10/08 1:41:40 pm reply quote |
re: #295 kansas
If McCain gets in your'e gonna hear a lot more than whine. As much as I fear an Obama President, I fear not letting him have it. Anybody else fear riots, looting, and general chaos?
For a little while. But we see this when ball games are won.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:41:48 pm reply quote |
re: #293 godfrey
George Soros has written a new book called THE NEW PARADIGM FOR FINANCIAL MARKETS: The Credit Crisis of 2008 and What it Means. In it he predicts the end of an era: the end of a long phase of stability, the end of the dominance of the US market, and the end of the dollar.
Natch.
I think it's thread-worthy, given his role in the US election.
Sooo ....
Can we now assume that he did have an 'interest' in starting this avalanche? Even if it was just to show everybody that he's right, without any baaad thoughts of earning more billions?
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:43:20 pm reply quote |
re: #306 kansas
Well, my idiot son in law, who just left my daughter, is a troofer and told her if McCain gets in we will all die because he will pull out of Iraq and the terrorists will then come here and kill us. How can you even deal with morons like this?
Geeze. He's triply a jerk. One for leaving her, two for being a troofer, and three for his comment about McCain. I sincerely hope she's not hurt too badly out of all of this, having been through a separation myself.
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Eowyn2 10/10/08 1:43:32 pm reply quote |
re: #293 godfrey
George Soros has written a new book called THE NEW PARADIGM FOR FINANCIAL MARKETS: The Credit Crisis of 2008 and What it Means. In it he predicts the end of an era: the end of a long phase of stability, the end of the dominance of the US market, and the end of the dollar.
Natch.
I think it's thread-worthy, given his role in the US election.
Damn that was quick.
did he write the book after to the collapse (one hell of a fast typist) or did he help with the collapse to sell his book
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:43:32 pm reply quote |
re: #149 opnion
I was talking with a guy at a trade show this week. He does pre-employment physicals. He said that his most solid market segment is the restaurant industry, from fine dining to fast food.
In his opinion, that industry is recession proof. Kind of surprised me.
People don't have time to cook anymore, when both parents are working, kids are going to dance classes, sports events, etc., after school.
How many supermarkets these days have a salad bar? Or packaged salads? Cooked rotisserie chickens? Pre-seasoned and portion ready packaged meats?
In Louisiana, red beans and rice traditionally a "Monday" dish. The reason why: Many years ago, before electricity and washing machines, Monday was wash day, and red beans could be put in a pot and cooked all day with little or no tending, allowing the wimmin-folks to get the washing done.
Proper food preparation takes time - and people just don't have it anymore.
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yesandno 10/10/08 1:43:42 pm reply quote |
re: #295 kansas
If McCain gets in your'e gonna hear a lot more than whine. As much as I fear an Obama President, I fear not letting him have it. Anybody else fear riots, looting, and general chaos?
Actually, I feel we would see a sigh of relief. No doubt there would be pockets of idiots trying to prove their manhood by doing something stupid...but most of the country would opt out of that, I do believe.
Despite it all, I think many people would be angry but not necessarily actionable.
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:43:54 pm reply quote |
re: #320 littleoldlady
That was for pink freud. Not "null"
/oy!
You have to reload the page to get rid of the "null".
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godfrey 10/10/08 1:43:57 pm reply quote |
In case anyone wants a break from all this financial muck, Ian Bostridge, who is a very fine English tenor, has written a sharp essay on music and culture. Recommended.
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Dianna 10/10/08 1:44:05 pm reply quote |
re: #295 kansas
If McCain gets in your'e gonna hear a lot more than whine. As much as I fear an Obama President, I fear not letting him have it. Anybody else fear riots, looting, and general chaos?
No, I don't.
For one thing, the kind of folks who riot aren't going to stay up for the results. For another, there won't be the kind of thing that really gets the rioting types going. No lead-up excitement and incitement.
Rioting over politics requires that more than 40% of the populace actually gives a damn.
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Ruthless 10/10/08 1:44:08 pm reply quote |
re: #300 Egfrow
Obama is attacking McCain's crowds as being angry and bitter. He say's we should not be angry and divisive. We should all just agree to get along. We should lay on the ground with our pants below our knees and our wallets in our hands. We may even be asked to open the tube of K-Y Jelly as a courtesy before we are raped and robbed by the Communist Democratic party. We are not supposed to fight back.
I talked with my liberal stupid-a** sister last night and she was feeding me this stuff about the angry crowds, and Sarah Palin inciting hatred, shouts of "kill" etc. I did a little checking and found one small incident recently where one person, out of thousands, shouted something threatening. Obviously that has been blown all out of proportion. Disgusting.
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Josephine 10/10/08 1:44:20 pm reply quote |
re: #264 Cognito
Canada's Prime Minister got slammed recently by the leaders of the other political parties for saying something like this. He was right, though: the time to buy a house or to invest is when the price goes down. Buying, rather than doing nothing, also benefits the economy.
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Eowyn2 10/10/08 1:44:20 pm reply quote |
re: #304 buzzsawmonkey
That sounds so much more ominous than, "It's a Scrabble! It's a Scrabble!"
I prefer Its a Boggle
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:44:36 pm reply quote |
re: #306 kansas
Well, my idiot son in law, who just left my daughter, is a troofer and told her if McCain gets in we will all die because he will pull out of Iraq and the terrorists will then come here and kill us. How can you even deal with morons like this?
{kansas}
I'm so sorry for your daughter's pain. I went through a similar situation a little over a year ago, and funny enough, my EH became more and more liberal as he continued down the road he chose away from our marriage and children.
FWIW, although I'm very sad that my marriage was irretrievable (and believe me, I tried), I am thankful to be free from someone who became a person I wouldn't even have coffee with now,
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Creeping Eruption 10/10/08 1:45:33 pm reply quote |
re: #276 Creeping Eruption
Thanks for the e-mail help folks. I am the proud father of a new G-Mail account. NIC going blue in a few minutes.
I think I am going to change my name to dumber than a box of rocks. Will someone out there please tell me how to "blue" my nic and bring me into the 21st century?
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Egfrow 10/10/08 1:45:45 pm reply quote |
re: #331 Ruthless
I talked with my liberal stupid-a** sister last night and she was feeding me this stuff about the angry crowds, and Sarah Palin inciting hatred, shouts of "kill" etc. I did a little checking and found one small incident recently where one person, out of thousands, shouted something threatening. Obviously that has been blown all out of proportion. Disgusting.
Yeah, we are supposed to take being gang raped and handcuffed quietly and with a whimper. Fuck them. I'm pissed and I'm fighting.
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opnion 10/10/08 1:46:01 pm reply quote |
re: #271 null
I'd relish it. My county (Will) went for Bush in 2000 and 2004, and has been growing rapidly, as have the counties next door (Grundy and Kendall). Both of these also went for Bush in 2000 and 2004.
We just have to convince Peoria, St Clair, and Champaign Counties that it is in their best interest to oppose anything from Cook County.
Actually, it is in their best interest to oppose Cook County.
State spending per pupil in Chicago exceeds almost all other districts.
The student reading and math proficiency is a disgrace.
Preference is give to graduates of Chicago State which turns out semi- literate teachers
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:46:09 pm reply quote |
re: #311 buzzsawmonkey
You can always go huffing at HuffPo.
Buzz, I thought you of all people would've caught that.
/PS, it's from Airplane!, as with the "Auntie Em" comment.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:46:14 pm reply quote |
re: #303 Josephine
re: #277 nyc redneck
Thank you. The last few years have been very stressful. She's had fairly bad symptoms since last November and, although the specialist suspected this illness, she only did the biopsies last month. Yes, Canadian healthcare; speedy it ain't.
It's not life-threatening but it's serious. At least we finally know what it is so we can try the treatment(s). We're trying to stay positive because what else can you do? It is what it is.
Staying positive is the best one can do. If the Canadian health service is anything like that in the UK, then yeah, speedy it isn't ...
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:47:04 pm reply quote |
re: #335 Creeping Eruption
I think I am going to change my name to dumber than a box of rocks. Will someone out there please tell me how to "blue" my nic and bring me into the 21st century?
When you post a comment, look to the right of the "Email" block at the top of the comment box.
there is a box that says "show e-mail".
click that box. The comment you post will show your nic in blue.
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formercorpsman 10/10/08 1:47:06 pm reply quote |
re: #321 yma o hyd
Actually, I am starting to think, this is an element of warfare.
Take a look at how he did Britain in 1992, and Thailand in 1997.
There exists quite a bit of documentation that shows he manages to devalue a country's currency, as a way of affecting political change.
His OSI is all over Eastern Europe. Remember all of the colored revolutions? Orange, Red?
Seriously. Read up on it.
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redstateredneck 10/10/08 1:47:07 pm reply quote |
re: #326 reine.de.tout
People don't have time to cook anymore, when both parents are working, kids are going to dance classes, sports events, etc., after school.
How many supermarkets these days have a salad bar? Or packaged salads? Cooked rotisserie chickens? Pre-seasoned and portion ready packaged meats?
In Louisiana, red beans and rice traditionally a "Monday" dish. The reason why: Many years ago, before electricity and washing machines, Monday was wash day, and red beans could be put in a pot and cooked all day with little or no tending, allowing the wimmin-folks to get the washing done.
Proper food preparation takes time - and people just don't have it anymore.
Well, tomorrow is wash day for me so I'm cookin' white beans and tasso. Mebbe a li'l cajun sausage in dere, too.
;-)
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:47:14 pm reply quote |
re: #304 buzzsawmonkey
That sounds so much more ominous than, "It's a Scrabble! It's a Scrabble!"
You think you have some kind of Monopoly on puns here, don't you?
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USA 10/10/08 1:47:17 pm reply quote |
When I look at that picture on Drudge of Putin petting his birthday present, I see in a baby Obama instead of the cub. God Save Us.
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WriterMom 10/10/08 1:47:20 pm reply quote |
re: #265 Josephine
Josephine, please give me a call or send me your phone number and I'll call you.
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sparrowlake 10/10/08 1:47:44 pm reply quote |
re: #330 Dianna
No, I don't.
For one thing, the kind of folks who riot aren't going to stay up for the results. For another, there won't be the kind of thing that really gets the rioting types going. No lead-up excitement and incitement.
Rioting over politics requires that more than 40% of the populace actually gives a damn.
You don't think Geraldo will be down on the south side paying some homies to burn some cars?
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Cicero05 10/10/08 1:47:51 pm reply quote |
re: #331 Ruthless
I talked with my liberal stupid-a** sister last night and she was feeding me this stuff about the angry crowds, and Sarah Palin inciting hatred, shouts of "kill" etc.
I've been shouting "Kill" for weeks now. Sometimes I shout "maim" or "burn", just for variety.
Is that a problem?
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ggt 10/10/08 1:47:53 pm reply quote |
Hey Lizards! It's a glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.
Wang up, Wang down. What are you gonna do?
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:47:56 pm reply quote |
re: #344 redstateredneck
Well, tomorrow is wash day for me so I'm cookin' white beans and tasso. Mebbe a li'l cajun sausage in dere, too.
;-)
there, you see? Wash day = beans LOL.
I love tasso.
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unreconstructed rebel 10/10/08 1:48:12 pm reply quote |
re: #347 goddessoftheclassroom
no, it's kitteh-porn!
Gives whole new meaning to "cats rule", don't it?
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:48:29 pm reply quote |
Woo-Hoo!
Kurtz link about Obama's ties to ACORN may--possibly--have turned an Obama voter!
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Ruthless 10/10/08 1:48:35 pm reply quote |
re: #350 Cicero05
I've been shouting "Kill" for weeks now. Sometimes I shout "maim" or "burn", just for variety.
Is that a problem?
Umm, why no!
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:48:43 pm reply quote |
re: #330 Dianna
No, I don't.
For one thing, the kind of folks who riot aren't going to stay up for the results. For another, there won't be the kind of thing that really gets the rioting types going. No lead-up excitement and incitement.
Rioting over politics requires that more than 40% of the populace actually gives a damn.
Rioting can also require someone directing it from behind the scenes. If there is any rioting after the election, I would suspect that it would be completely orchestrated by some leftist group.
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formercorpsman 10/10/08 1:48:47 pm reply quote |
re: #325 Eowyn2
He has been crowing about this for at last 5 years.
In much of his writing, he is tying it back to Reagan, and deregulation.
He has created credit crisis elsewhere before.
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:49:03 pm reply quote |
re: #325 Eowyn2
Damn that was quick.
My thoughts exactly. Is anyone else reminded of the villain from The World Is Not Enough, whose news network is managing to report catastrophic events with lightning speed... because they're causing them?
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So? 10/10/08 1:49:17 pm reply quote |
Michael Savage is the only one I've heard who hit the nail on the head concerning this financial meltdown.
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 1:49:22 pm reply quote |
re: #345 Occasional Reader
You think you have some kind of Monopoly on puns here, don't you?
It's all part of the Game of Life. You have to be willing to take a Risk.
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ggt 10/10/08 1:50:29 pm reply quote |
re: #343 formercorpsman
I've thought that ever since I learned about the Cloward-Piven Strategy.
Ayers isn't a former terrorist.
Soros is at the heart of it.
Obambi is their puppet.
The Cold War is not over.
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unreconstructed rebel 10/10/08 1:50:34 pm reply quote |
I just noticed. The green football avitar has been polished a bit.
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:50:59 pm reply quote |
re: #359 Occasional Reader
My thoughts exactly. Is anyone else reminded of the villain from The World Is Not Enough, whose news network is managing to report catastrophic events with lightning speed... because they're causing them?
Oh. My. God. That's EXACTLY what I've been thinking for the past week...
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redstateredneck 10/10/08 1:51:07 pm reply quote |
re: #331 Ruthless
I talked with my liberal stupid-a** sister last night and she was feeding me this stuff about the angry crowds, and Sarah Palin inciting hatred, shouts of "kill" etc. I did a little checking and found one small incident recently where one person, out of thousands, shouted something threatening. Obviously that has been blown all out of proportion. Disgusting.
That's the crap that the MSM have been reporting. Angry Republicans...
You're damn straight they're angry but they're not going nutcase. Like you said, one person yells the wrong thing. How many times have those crazy ass Code Pink bitches shown up and gone off and that's just fine and dandy?
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 1:51:15 pm reply quote |
re: #338 opnion
Actually, it is in their best interest to oppose Cook County.
State spending per pupil in Chicago exceeds almost all other districts.
The student reading and math proficiency is a disgrace.
Preference is give to graduates of Chicago State which turns out semi- literate teachers
Unfortunately, these counties usually vote Dem. St Clair is home to East St Louis. Peoria has a lot of union types (Caterpiller). Champaign is home to the University of Illinois. Of these, I think Peoria would be the easiest to flip this year.
As for Chicago State, it's Emil Jones's (D-ComEd) favorite school. They got a lot of pork from him while he was president of the senate.
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opnion 10/10/08 1:51:19 pm reply quote |
re: #295 null
If McCain gets in your'e gonna hear a lot more than whine. As much as I fear an Obama President, I fear not letting him have it. Anybody else fear riots, looting, and general chaos?
I believe that race riots are pretty much a lock if The One loses.
Anybody working in an urban area, take a vacation day if McCain wins.
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WriterMom 10/10/08 1:51:24 pm reply quote |
re: #325 Eowyn2
Wow. Coinky-dink or what?
Soros is either profitting from it, or thoroughly enjoying it no matter how much he loses personally.
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Eowyn2 10/10/08 1:51:29 pm reply quote |
re: #326 reine.de.tout
People don't have time to cook anymore, when both parents are working, kids are going to dance classes, sports events, etc., after school.
How many supermarkets these days have a salad bar? Or packaged salads? Cooked rotisserie chickens? Pre-seasoned and portion ready packaged meats?
In Louisiana, red beans and rice traditionally a "Monday" dish. The reason why: Many years ago, before electricity and washing machines, Monday was wash day, and red beans could be put in a pot and cooked all day with little or no tending, allowing the wimmin-folks to get the washing done.
Proper food preparation takes time - and people just don't have it anymore.
Its all about commodities. food, fuel, hovels (wood, concrete etc)
Restraunts and bakeries rarely start from scratch. They have 'mixes' delivered and all they add is water and honey and do the baking. they buy cake mixes in 50 lb bags just like the ones in the itty bitty boxes.
If I were going to buy stock it would be in General Mills, Kelloggs, ADM. There are a number of them out there. Unfortunately many are not publicly traded.
Also, one of the few companies which made money during the depression was Max Factor.
You can figure out what people will not do without by looking around your house.
food, clothing, shelter.
toilet paper.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:51:35 pm reply quote |
re: #329 godfrey
In case anyone wants a break from all this financial muck, Ian Bostridge, who is a very fine English tenor, has written a sharp essay on music and culture. Recommended.
Outstanding English tenor - he once did a TV programme singing the 'Winterreise'. Unforgettable.
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Josephine 10/10/08 1:51:48 pm reply quote |
re: #305 goddessoftheclassroom
Thank you, Goddess. I've been saying the Lord's Prayer quite a bit lately.
Yes, at least I no longer have the terrible anxiety of knowing there is something wrong with my child and being "poo-poo'd" by the doctors. My daughter feels relieved, too, because sometimes teachers, etc., wouldn't understand her frequent absences.
"Onward and upward," as my mother used to say.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat 10/10/08 1:51:49 pm reply quote |
Scrolled down the thread just now, looking specifically at comment ratings.
A few 3's, one 4, one 5, and finally a 7 -- all the way down at #122, after we were wandering into "OT" territory.
Strikes me as an indication that we're:
1. in shellshock, unwilling to commit, or
2. that no one knows WTF is going on (ie, being up-dinged for wisdom.)
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unreconstructed rebel 10/10/08 1:51:59 pm reply quote |
re: #367 opnion
I believe that race riots are pretty much a lock if The One loses.
Anybody working in an urban area, take a vacation day if McCain wins.
What? & come home to a burnt-out house?
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:52:19 pm reply quote |
re: #361 buzzsawmonkey
It's all part of the Game of Life. You have to be willing to take a Risk.
Balderdash! You don't have a Clue; you're living in Candy Land.
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Ruthless 10/10/08 1:52:21 pm reply quote |
It is interesting to speculate about possible rioting and mass criminal uprisings if O loses. I lived through the riots in Chicago when MLK was assassinated, and that was pretty bad. But that took place in a ghettoized community and was fairly contained. If the Obamaniacs go postal on us, they are going to be scattered around all over the map, and it is a lot harder to gain momentum with an uprising when your force is scattered.
Plus, we are clinging to their guns, aren't we?
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:53:04 pm reply quote |
re: #369 Eowyn2
Its all about commodities. food, fuel, hovels (wood, concrete etc)
Restraunts and bakeries rarely start from scratch. They have 'mixes' delivered and all they add is water and honey and do the baking. they buy cake mixes in 50 lb bags just like the ones in the itty bitty boxes.
If I were going to buy stock it would be in General Mills, Kelloggs, ADM. There are a number of them out there. Unfortunately many are not publicly traded.Also, one of the few companies which made money during the depression was Max Factor.
You can figure out what people will not do without by looking around your house.
food, clothing, shelter.
toilet paper.
And in my particular case, handbags.
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Eowyn2 10/10/08 1:53:09 pm reply quote |
re: #306 kansas
Well, my idiot son in law, who just left my daughter, is a troofer and told her if McCain gets in we will all die because he will pull out of Iraq and the terrorists will then come here and kill us. How can you even deal with morons like this?
You can't. You daughter is lucky. She may be in a lot of pain now but in the long run, she is much better off. My ex was an ass but he's not a troofer.
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Dianna 10/10/08 1:53:14 pm reply quote |
re: #349 sparrowlake
You don't think Geraldo will be down on the south side paying some homies to burn some cars?
They wouldn't take it.
People on the South Side will protect their cars.
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:53:40 pm reply quote |
re: #372 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Scrolled down the thread just now, looking specifically at comment ratings.
A few 3's, one 4, one 5, and finally a 7 -- all the way down at #122, after we were wandering into "OT" territory.
Strikes me as an indication that we're:
1. in shellshock, unwilling to commit, or
2. that no one knows WTF is going on (ie, being up-dinged for wisdom.)
Please go back up and see first #341, then my #347...
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WrathofG-d 10/10/08 1:53:42 pm reply quote |
OT:
Ok avatars are back.
as you were...
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FloridaAnole 10/10/08 1:54:15 pm reply quote |
And to add to today's joy, in case this hasn't been posted earlier, Christopher Buckley, the son of William F. Buckley, has come out today endorsing Obama.
His reasons seem to be that right wingers supporting Palin are kooks, because his friend Katherine Parker (the WAPO's house conservative) got over 12,000 angry emails in respone to her column declaring Sarah Palin totally unfit for office; and (2) he believes that everything Obama has done is non-ideological and just done to get the presidency, and that Obama will be a centrist president.
The most charitable thing to say is that he is still a bit unhinged by grief, having lost both his parents within the last 18 months or so,
I confess I don't know how to make a link, but young Buckley's maifesto can be found in a blog called The Beast". I also saw a reference to it on NRO Corner.
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OldLineTexan 10/10/08 1:54:39 pm reply quote |
re: #174 null
Bonjour, my cher! Comment êtes-vous aujourd'hui?
I don't know what you said, but suddenly I am nervous and excited...
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Creeping Eruption 10/10/08 1:54:52 pm reply quote |
re: #342 reine.de.tout
When you post a comment, look to the right of the "Email" block at the top of the comment box.
there is a box that says "show e-mail".
click that box. The comment you post will show your nic in blue.
Thank you, and may you have a wonderful weekend.
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pat 10/10/08 1:54:53 pm reply quote |
The DOW reached classic fundamental bottoms on many stocks so computerized buy orders went in. Every broker I know is buying at the
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ggt 10/10/08 1:55:11 pm reply quote |
re: #369 Eowyn2
Cosmetics -- drug store
Food
Candy
Movies
Ice Cream
People will always find the money for the "little pleasures". They won't buy a car, or furniture, but they will spring for little things.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat 10/10/08 1:55:16 pm reply quote |
re: #373 Florida Lady
Trying to see if my avatar is working . . .
Gulp ... WOW ... cute chick!
Dump the guy and I'll send my phone number!
/old enough to be her GRANDfather
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Oldasdirt 10/10/08 1:56:07 pm reply quote |
re: #373 Florida Lady
Trying to see if my avatar is working . . .
Nice Kids,I just changed mt avatar also.
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Ward Cleaver 10/10/08 1:56:17 pm reply quote |
re: #379 Florida Lady
It worked!
My kids, btw . . . hope that's okay!
Good-looking kids. Congratulations on your son graduating with honors.
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chicagodudewhotrades 10/10/08 1:56:29 pm reply quote |
Anybody else think it is sadly amusing that Jimmy 'Stagflation' Carter is going off on President Bush and GOP economic ideas?
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reine.de.tout 10/10/08 1:56:30 pm reply quote |
re: #389 OldLineTexan
I don't know what you said, but suddenly I am nervous and excited...
hee-hee.
I jest axed how you were doin' today (back into southern twang mode)
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goddessoftheclassroom 10/10/08 1:56:30 pm reply quote |
re: #389 OldLineTexan
I don't know what you said, but suddenly I am nervous and excited...
Don't get too excited--she just asked you how you are today!
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Lynn B. 10/10/08 1:56:33 pm reply quote |
You know, what we really need to guide us through this economic mess is a wet-behind-the-ears rock star wannabe who's so in love with his own reflection he can't see anyone or anything past it. What we need is to beat big and small businesses down a little more -- no, a lot more -- and redistribute what's left of their wealth to people who will use it to buy bigger cars and wider screen tvs. What we need is higher taxes and fewer jobs and a clueless elitist snob at the helm who can look down his nose at all of the struggling people and pity them.
Isn't it obvious?
/just in case the sarcasm wasn't
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CyanSnowHawk 10/10/08 1:56:37 pm reply quote |
re: #361 buzzsawmonkey
It's all part of the Game of Life. You have to be willing to take a Risk.
Careful, you're getting Parcheesi.
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Josephine 10/10/08 1:56:46 pm reply quote |
re: #348 WriterMom
I just emailed my phone number to you, as I don't have your number.
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Athos 10/10/08 1:56:49 pm reply quote |
re: #361 buzzsawmonkey
It's all part of the Game of Life. You have to be willing to take a Risk.
Otherwise you will be Sorry.
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Dianna 10/10/08 1:57:21 pm reply quote |
re: #357 Honorary Yooper
Rioting can also require someone directing it from behind the scenes. If there is any rioting after the election, I would suspect that it would be completely orchestrated by some leftist group.
I'm sorry, I love the image of some steely-eyed leftist in a bunker somewhere, giving orders over his short-wave radio (or disposable cell, or whatever), while wimpier leftists run in and out with pieces of paper and push pins into maps. It's like something out of an Eric Flint novel.
However, it's not going to happen. Someone may try it. But the three rousing speeches turning into revolution scenario requires an active mob, and (bluntly), if there's one thing the American Urban mob isn't, it's active.
Short of a hotly-contested sporting event and lots of liquor, count on the inner cities staying pretty quiet.
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WriterMom 10/10/08 1:57:27 pm reply quote |
re: #406 Josephine
OK-I'm leaving work and heading home, Shabbat is early today. I'll speak to you over the weekend.
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Florida Lady 10/10/08 1:57:35 pm reply quote |
re: #394 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Gulp ... WOW ... cute chick!
Dump the guy and I'll send my phone number!/old enough to be her GRANDfather
That's her younger brother! And she has a boyfriend - although an LLL . . .
/it's a sad story!
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Ward Cleaver 10/10/08 1:57:43 pm reply quote |
The plus and minus boxes are back to normal today (separated by whitespace).
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unreconstructed rebel 10/10/08 1:57:51 pm reply quote |
Time to slog home on I-66. Y'all have a great weekend.
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yma o hyd 10/10/08 1:58:17 pm reply quote |
re: #343 formercorpsman
Actually, I am starting to think, this is an element of warfare.
Take a look at how he did Britain in 1992, and Thailand in 1997.
There exists quite a bit of documentation that shows he manages to devalue a country's currency, as a way of affecting political change.
His OSI is all over Eastern Europe. Remember all of the colored revolutions? Orange, Red?
Seriously. Read up on it.
Heh.
I remember Britain 1992 only too well! Mortgage interest rates went up to 15%, thanks to him ..
And I do recall Thailand and the other 'Tiger economies'.
Thing is - its only afterwards that his fingerprints are found, not before and not during.
He's had a hand in the Rose revolution in Georgia as well - he is the most dangerous man living, and I think its power he's after, not just money.
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DaddyG 10/10/08 1:58:25 pm reply quote |
The #1 reason that the dominance of the American market and the stability of the dollar is here to stay...
On November 5th we will have successfully replaced government once again and it will be the people's choice (for good or bad). The people will have the same choice two and four years later. Nobody has to die each time for it to happen - yet millions are willing to die to preserve the right.
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boogberg 10/10/08 1:58:44 pm reply quote |
I just called my Merrill Lynch dude and he said I had nothing to worry about because my shit was invested in "money market". I pointed out the crappy rate of return and he pointed out the fact that many people had 40% of their money evaporate, whereas I made a meager amount.
He said it will cost me $50 to gamble on the S & P. Tempting. :D
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Josephine 10/10/08 1:58:57 pm reply quote |
re: #409 WriterMom
I'll be away from Saturday morning to Sunday afternoon. We're minding my brother's two little ones (it's almost as sweet as being grandparents).
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 1:59:09 pm reply quote |
re: #393 ggt
People will always find the money for the "little pleasures".
I'm also inviting you all to invest in my upcoming all-singing, all-dancing Hollywood blockbuster (with a cast of thousands), Gold Diggers of 2010. Hey, it worked the last time around.
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Ward Cleaver 10/10/08 2:00:02 pm reply quote |
re: #410 Florida Lady
That's her younger brother! And she has a boyfriend - although an LLL . . .
/it's a sad story!
Hope you don't wind up with a moonbat for a son-in-law.
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Occasional Reader 10/10/08 2:00:08 pm reply quote |
re: #404 CyanSnowHawk
Careful, you're getting Parcheesi.
Given the times we're in, don't these punning contests seem like a rather trivial pursuit?
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red131 10/10/08 2:00:20 pm reply quote |
re: #318 formercorpsman
I believe you are right. It's part of what he did in Europe. He wants to control the world. He wants socialism all around.
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DoubleU 10/10/08 2:00:38 pm reply quote |
re: #367 opnion
A few months ago we were discussing what to do if he doesn't get elected or something happens before the election. The office isn't in the best area, we figure hang the hurricane shutters and hope for the best. Don't think anyone wants to get on the roof and defend the building.
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wrenchwench 10/10/08 2:00:39 pm reply quote |
Wow, I may go back to the default icon. That's cool!
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WrathofG-d 10/10/08 2:00:55 pm reply quote |
re: #379 Florida Lady
By that statement, I assume you are discussing your avatar. Cute kids, but if you upset someone with a statement or if some kook reading this wants to "get back" at those "evil LGF fascists", it could cause them potentially some problems.
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eschew_obfuscation 10/10/08 2:01:12 pm reply quote |
re: #373 Florida Lady
Trying to see if my avatar is working . . .
What's the outfit your man has on there? Looks a little like York Rite or one of the masonic organizations.
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opnion 10/10/08 2:01:19 pm reply quote |
re: #374 null
What? & come home to a burnt-out house?
No , I don't mean actually go anywhere . The point is to stay out of large cities for a day. It will probably be best to stay in your burb if you live in one.
I may sound alarmist, but I have seen it before.
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newsjunkie_ky 10/10/08 2:01:19 pm reply quote |
TROY — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's last name is spelled "Osama" on hundreds of absentee ballots mailed out this week to voters in Rensselaer County.
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DoubleU 10/10/08 2:02:07 pm reply quote |
re: #368 WriterMom
His partner in crime Roberts (I believe that is his name) was just on Bloomberg but I didn't catch what he said.
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formercorpsman 10/10/08 2:02:16 pm reply quote |
re: #413 yma o hyd
Thank you.
I have always been suspicious of him, but only recently have i started reading more about it. There is so much to read, I don't have enough time.
One thing from the last two days, has been the name of Paulson coming up, as it relates to short selling the sub-prime. (not Hank Paulson mind you)
It has been going on for at least a year, maybe more, and he has made some big money.
This is manipulation going on right now.
This is what was done before.
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pat 10/10/08 2:02:32 pm reply quote |
I think the American people have arrived at the conclusion that the government has destroyed the economy by changing the rules. To say you are voting for Mr Change is the only way to get back. Of course all the idiots that let this happen and their corrupt friends in business will skate.
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eschew_obfuscation 10/10/08 2:02:37 pm reply quote |
re: #430 eschew_obfuscation
What's the outfit your man has on there? Looks a little like York Rite or one of the masonic organizations.
woops....reading later posts, I realize those are your kids ;*)
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arethusa 10/10/08 2:02:43 pm reply quote |
OT: On my walk home I pass by a house with an elaborate outdoor Hallowe'en set-up...ghost and vampire figures, and finally, a sign that says "Boo!" Right next to the "Boo!" sign, last in line, is their Obama-Biden yard sign.
I feel like knocking on the door and asking if they're trying to *really* scare us.
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Desert Dog 10/10/08 2:03:17 pm reply quote |
re: #432 newsjunkie_ky
TROY — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's last name is spelled "Osama" on hundreds of absentee ballots mailed out this week to voters in Rensselaer County.
Osama, Obama, Tomato, Tomaato
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Honorary Yooper 10/10/08 2:03:24 pm reply quote |
re: #388 FloridaAnole
And to add to today's joy, in case this hasn't been posted earlier, Christopher Buckley, the son of William F. Buckley, has come out today endorsing Obama.
Bill has got to be spinning in his grave. Obama stands for damn near everything he was against.
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Florida Lady 10/10/08 2:03:30 pm reply quote |
re: #420 Ward Cleaver
Hope you don't wind up with a moonbat for a son-in-law.
*Gulp*
Not if I can do something about it!
My daughter is trying to work on him, but not easy in Charlottesville, VA. She's an out-numbered, lonely anti-idiotarian.
Thank God both our kids are solid conservatives.
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Ward Cleaver 10/10/08 2:03:33 pm reply quote |
re: #432 newsjunkie_ky
TROY — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's last name is spelled "Osama" on hundreds of absentee ballots mailed out this week to voters in Rensselaer County.
Too bad Obama couldn't have a female running mate, like "Mulvah Omar".
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buzzsawmonkey 10/10/08 2:03:52 pm reply quote |
I have to sign off soon, but I am going to repeat what I said in my post #354. The Kurtz link from National Review, which details some elements of ACORN's hand in the subprime and general financial crisis, and some aspects of Obama's connections to ACORN, may possibly have just turned an Obama voter away from casting an Obama vote.
I sent this to someone who used to work for Freddie Mac, who was going to vote for Obama--but who well remembers ACORN's pressure to relax loan standards, and Freddie's initial resistance to such relaxation. His final comment: "The article is unclear on what Obama’s connection to ACORN really is. However close, it’s too close for my tastes." (emphasis added)
I intend to follow up with more on Obama's connections to ACORN. But I want people to be aware that getting the information out there can actually make a difference.
There is work to be done over the next couple of weeks, folks.
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Florida Lady 10/10/08 2:04:01 pm reply quote |
re: #430 eschew_obfuscation
What's the outfit your man has on there? Looks a little like York Rite or one of the masonic organizations.
National Honor Society
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Killian Bundy 10/10/08 2:04:04 pm reply quote |
Good grief. The Dow plunged more than 700 points earlier, and now it’s rebounded all the way into positive territory.
That actually worked out pretty well. I made quite a bit of money shorting the DOW ETF (DIA) on the way down. And then riding it long on two of the upswings.
/if the bottom isn't 8000, we are very, very close
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snowcrash 10/10/08 2:04:10 pm reply quote |
re: #411 Ward Cleaver
Ward do you follow high school football in the DFW area? S'Lake Carrol rolls into town tonight and it going to be a bloodbath for my team! Good thing I'm with the band boosters.
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opnion 10/10/08 2:04:15 pm reply quote |
re: #425 null
A few months ago we were discussing what to do if he doesn't get elected or something happens before the election. The office isn't in the best area, we figure hang the hurricane shutters and hope for the best. Don't think anyone wants to get on the roof and defend the building.
You know, I hope that things don't come to that, but you know that 'Community Leaders" will whip it up with the help of the MSM.
Great news footage & they can let us all know that it happened becuse of our racism.
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Ward Cleaver 10/10/08 2:04:29 pm reply quote |
re: #443 Honorary Yooper
Bill has got to be spinning in his grave. Obama stands for damn near everything he was against.
Was Christopher dropped on his head at birth?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat 10/10/08 2:04:58 pm reply quote |
re: #410 Florida Lady
That's her younger brother! And she has a boyfriend - although an LLL . . .
/it's a sad story!
*grin*
I was teasing, of course, but you have a FINE-looking pair of kids there!
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Ward Cleaver 10/10/08 2:05:01 pm reply quote |
re: #444 Florida Lady
*Gulp*
Not if I can do something about it!My daughter is trying to work on him, but not easy in Charlottesville, VA. She's an out-numbered, lonely anti-idiotarian.
Thank God both our kids are solid conservatives.
Amen, be thankful for that.
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Florida Lady 10/10/08 2:05:22 pm reply quote |
re: #429 WrathofG-d
By that statement, I assume you are discussing your avatar. Cute kids, but if you upset someone with a statement or if some kook reading this wants to "get back" at those "evil LGF fascists", it could cause them potentially some problems.
Oh dear, didn't think about it. I think I'll change it now.
Thank you.
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jorline 10/10/08 2:05:32 pm reply quote |
re: #293 godfrey
George Soros has written a new book called THE NEW PARADIGM FOR FINANCIAL MARKETS: The Credit Crisis of 2008 and What it Means. In it he predicts the end of an era: the end of a long phase of stability, the end of the dominance of the US market, and the end of the dollar.
Natch.
I think it's thread-worthy, given his role in the US election.
I smell something fishy.
