we have seen the bottom ....

right?

It is a world of day traders

Well, it won't be the first time that a ball bounces.

Rubber money, right?

no thanks to Jimmy Carter
stabbing at Bush
trying to pin the blame on him and Republicans

That's it. Time to PANIC!

. . .
Or not.

My husband (who is somewhat financially savvy) has been saying for the last couple of days:
"if the market opens significantly down and on the same day closes moderately up then this thing is just about over"

I want to see how monday and tuesday go then see about putting some money back in.

This rollercoaster ride ain't over yet folks...Just let me know when I can get a thousand shares of Microsoft for $50!

I'll take this positive
and dude you can buy Microsoft now pretty cheap

I think I'll put my money in GM.

Whoa...I see green text and a + sign.

re: #7 Adrenalyn

no thanks to Jimmy Carter
stabbing at Bush
trying to pin the blame on him and Republicans

Oh what the H-E-Double Hockeysticks has Jimmah been sayin now?

Before the '29 crash, it did the same thing, oddly. Huge swings, then the bottom.

Up $310

Wow, one of the few times I'm glad I haven't been investing in the market...Just precious metals like copper, lead, and brass...

The Dow lately has been like a box-spring mattress at the Chicken Ranch in Vegas...lots of ups and downs.

re: #4 buzzsawmonkey

It's up! It's down! It's all around!

SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER! SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER!

800 pts in 35minutes

I would think things could bottom out only so much before people with some intelligence realized this is now a buying opportunity.

re: #18 jorline

I think you mean the bunny ranch?

Manufactured chaos. We're being purposefully distracted from the election.

/bought shares in Amalgamated Tin Foil Hat, Ltd.

An upward rebound of the deceased feline variety.

"Blue horseshoe likes Anacott steel"

My GE buy at 18.50 is lookin good....

Now if the rest of my portfolio would only buck up...

Heading to negative territory again...

We're all rich again! Time to wash the new Bentley with Dom Perignon!

-100.

re: #22 Defector01

I think you mean the bunny ranch?

LMAO...thanks...I was thinking of the Chicken Ranch of my youth here in Texas in La Grange.

re: #16 BenZ's Bat

Hey you! How's your family? I haven't seen your dad in like...forever!

Those traders are busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest right now. My guess this spike is going to continue through close, but then again it's only a guess.

Well, Fudge :-(

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER! SHE'S YOUR MOTHER! SHE'S YOUR SISTER!

Are you calling the financial system inbred?!

I beg to agree.

yay, we're out of the poor house and mccain is closer to the white house.
oh, please let this trend continue. up up and away.

I dedicate this song to the Stock Market;

Someone is Crazy

Is Bitter there? I'd rather talk to her than Disappointed
Though she's not quite as fun as Good'n'Mad
You'd better put her on
She can change the game
She can make me say I'm sorry

You throw your hands up in the air and swear you didn't know
You think the world revolves around you but it doesn't so
You sit and spin
Baby someone is crazy and it's you

Boing boing boing boing-boing-boing-boing-boing

/Finding Nemo

Come on Big D, FLY!

i'm getting sea sick.
air sick?

I'm still buying
for 25yr olds who wanna get into the market, this is the greatest!
My 20 shares of Apple just went up a ton!

re: #30 Charles

-100.

Only one thing left to do

The frickin' thing is all over the place....up, down, up, down...+33

re: #30 Charles

-100.

We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!

Great news!

For those of you who long for the days when a loaf of bread was 10¢, a gallon of milk was 50¢, and a gallon of gas was 17¢, your wish may soon come true.

The down side? Your salary just went to $2.00 per hour.

re: #46 Occasional Reader

We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!

LOL, funny!

Back down now almost flat. It's a mad mad mad mad mad world. I wonder if because of the losses, BHO will adjust his rich = $250K number down? Maybe it will be $100K?

up +72

close early today, just this once!

re: #32 littleoldlady

Not bad. mom's been doing well, sister's prego. You probably won't see dad around anymore. He decided that the ID v. Evo thing was getting to be too much. He thought he was banned after a certain comment that he made (I don't know which one). Either way he says this is Charles' house so he's not going to criticize but he's not going to visit anymore either.

Note to self: Bring 1 additional change of underwear to work on Monday.

re: #27 Summersong

ah, i spoke too soon :(

re: #49 jayzee

Its a combination of two things:
Absolute panic at the status of the market vs. the desire of lots of people to buy cheap

I'm in the latter

re: #46 Occasional Reader

We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!

And this Chateau le Blanc '68 is supposed to be served slightly chilled! This is room temperature! What do you think we are, animals?

Okay, I promise myself I would NOT watch the dang thing as the 4 pm bell draws nigh; too hard on my nerves. I'll check back a little later.

re: #46 Occasional Reader

We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!

Gold trying to rebound.

re: #49 jayzee

Back down now almost flat. It's a mad mad mad mad mad world. I wonder if because of the losses, BHO will adjust his rich = $250K number down? Maybe it will be $100K?

But of course!
He's gotta get the tax moneis from somewhere, after all.

US economy is strong. The government should have stayed away from this whole mess.

re: #60 winston06

US economy is strong. The government should have stayed away from this whole mess.

There you go again, using common sense. No high political office for you!

re: #46 Occasional Reader

We're all poor again! Time to fight each other with broken shards of the Dom Perignon bottles to see who gets to strip the Bentley for parts!

LMAO. I needed a belly laugh. Thank you!

Why do I have the suspicious feeling that Soros is going to come out of this doing well? Paranoia, historic perspective, envy?

If that Bond villain makes a bundle and gets his man in White House because of this I will ... nevermind.

re: #52 BenZ's Bat

I am SO glad your mom is doing well and mazel tov to your sister! :-)

But I miss BenZ! :-( Please give him my regards and best wishes?

re: #22 Defector01

He had it right. It's the Chicken Ranch. I'd give you a link but it ain't safe for work.

Well, this is a nice way to start the weekend.

The sun shines and the birds chirp to sing in a bright new future!

re: #60 winston06

US economy is strong. The government should have stayed away from this whole mess.

Even if it wasn't strong...still should have stayed away. Socializing the economy should never have been a choice...

The ancient Sophists must be so proud of the Democrat Party.
They created the financial crisis. They passed the the CRA & gave money to Acorn & others to intimidate banks to make bad subprime mortgage loans. HUD now admits to 5 million loans to illegals. That's what they admit to so you know that there is more. Barry himself was a legal counsel for ACORN.
You create the mess & blame the Republicans. Pure Sophistry.

re: #65 ploome hineni

I'm peeking back and forth here

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

The Once-ler: Every once in a while I sit down with myself asking 'Once-ler, why are you a Once-ler?' And I cringe, I don't smile as I sit there on trial asking 'Aren't you ashamed, you old Once-ler? You ought to be locked in a hoosegow, you should! The things that you do are completely un-good.' Yeah? But if I didn't do them, then someone else WOULD! That's a very good point, Mr. Once-ler. Business is business, and business must grow!

re: #69 opnion

The ancient Sophists must be so proud of the Democrat Party.
They created the financial crisis. They passed the the CRA & gave money to Acorn & others to intimidate banks to make bad subprime mortgage loans. HUD now admits to 5 million loans to illegals. That's what they admit to so you know that there is more. Barry himself was a legal counsel for ACORN.
You create the mess & blame the Republicans. Pure Sophistry.

Some would call it devinely inspired.

And back into the negative!
..and then slightly positive!
SELL SELL SELL, BUT BUY
Back to negative.

re: #65 ploome hineni

anyone recommend a good site to see the graph?

DJI

re: #68 Power Armored Lizardoid

"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab

re: #65 ploome hineni

Hi, ploome. No graph, but a great site for the word index.

anyone recommend a good site to see the graph?

re: #76 buzzsawmonkey

Bungee market!

Bungee makes my favorite video games. BUY!

re: #63 de La Valette

Buffett made another 6 billion in the past two weeks.
I think that might top Soros. I can hope anyway...

"The bears make money, the bulls make money, but the pigs go to the slaughter house."

Who says the MSM doesn't still have power to influence the minds of the masses. No one has read The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Don't Panic.

re: #70 ploome hineni

see my 52 above

re: #70 ploome hineni

ploooomie! :-)

He's not coming around anymore, according to his Bat. :-(

re: #77 Defector01

"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab

Indeed.

/Teal'c

re: #76 buzzsawmonkey

There's gottabe a song there somewhere - to be had.

re: #83 Egfrow

Who says the MSM doesn't still have power to influence the minds of the masses. No one has read The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Don't Panic.

Many could use that towel corner to suck on.

They should read the books.

re: #77 Defector01

"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab

Pain is nature little way of saying "WTF DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?"

Its so bad, I stopped watching it.....all I can do is focus on my little world and try and hold it together.

And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

re: #81 bringmeturi

Buffett made another 6 billion in the past two weeks.
I think that might top Soros. I can hope anyway...

It is a good time to be a billionaire.

World market at a glance...notice Iceland, no trading...broke!

re: #81 bringmeturi

Buffett made another 6 billion in the past two weeks.
I think that might top Soros. I can hope anyway...

Hey you got a link to that for us lazy lizards? 6 bil - wow! How did he do it?

re: #83 Egfrow

Who says the MSM doesn't still have power to influence the minds of the masses. No one has read The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Don't Panic.

Do you remember the rice panic from a few months ago?

"I just know there's a pony in here somewhere!"

re: #92 ploome hineni

your father? BenZ? Yup, I'm his oldest daughter.

does not post anymore?

Doesn't even visit the sight anymore.

“I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!”

The lemmings jumped off the cliff two by two, hurah, hurah...

re: #95 jorline

Report is that Israel is going to buy Iceland and move the Palestinians there :-p

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

Ain't that called Gerbil Warming?

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

But they have all that geothermal energy they can bottle and sell...

What about fish oils?

Back to work......Thank God I have work!

re: #99 rawmuse

"I just know there's a pony in here somewhere!"

LOL!

Gas down to $2.56 a gallon at a few stations around here.

re: #97 ploome hineni

re: #52 BenZ's Bat

Not bad. mom's been doing well, sister's prego. You probably won't see dad around anymore. He decided that the ID v. Evo thing was getting to be too much. He thought he was banned after a certain comment that he made (I don't know which one). Either way he says this is Charles' house so he's not going to criticize but he's not going to visit anymore either.

re: #97 ploome hineni

He got tired of the ID v. Evo (he and I both support ID) hullabulloo.

"Buy - Sell - Who Can Tell..."

This Stock Market make anyone else feel like Gomez Adamms?

re: #111 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You must be in the fine state of Mind. And I suppose your tank is full, right?

re: #110 eschew_obfuscation

IIRC that is a punchline to a joke, right? I can't remember the joke though.

AS I see it the War on the Middle Class started with Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. It was a redistribution of wealth from the Middle Class to the poor. It was really an attempt to help with the guilt over slavery & other wickedness.
With an Obama Presidency, I am afraid that the Middle Class destruction will be complete.

OT: Ace is reaching out to PUMAs.

HEY PUMAs!

I wish the Real Estate market would bottom out. Over all, we're still not out of the woods with potentially tens of thousands of foreclosures and fraudulent re-fi's to be realized.

Plus, Michigan's still got Granholm, so the recovery won't begin until she's outta here.

OT

What's the difference between these two?

[Link: newsimg.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: opposingviewpoints.files.wordpress.com...]

re: #98 DoubleU

Do you remember the rice panic from a few months ago?

Yes, Yes I do. I also remember the Onion Scare and the Jalepeno Pepper Scare.

re: #126 Egfrow

Yes, Yes I do. I also remember the Onion Scare and the Jalepeno Pepper Scare.

And don't for the Mad Cow scare.

You go short, then cover, then go long, then sell... rinse, lather, repeat. Don't dare look away from the screens. Two more minutes and I can finally go to the wc and then go get a bite to eat. It's been a truly great two weeks.

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

They are all in the Hands of Cod.

Hasn't this grouper suffered enough? Be an angelfish and tuna way from your wicked ways.

Anybody know what Tar and Feathers closed at?

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

They are all in the Hands of Cod.

abalone, I think they're just be koi

OT: Colour Me Shocked

Child and Family Murderer Kuntar Training With Hizballah in Lebanon.

/shock

re: #123 Intrepid

OT: Ace is reaching out to PUMAs.

HEY PUMAs!

I'm starting to wonder how many of our friendly bloggers are reading the spinoff links considering HotAir and now Ace have both linked to Hillbuzz today.

re: #22 Defector01

I think you mean the bunny ranch?

I think jorline had it right.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #117 DeafDog

This Stock Market make anyone else feel like Gomez Adamms?

I only feel like Gomez when reine de tout speaks French...it drives me wild.

We'll really bottom out when Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Obama, Raines and Jim Johnson are indicted. Until that happens, they are in a position to craft policies that perpetuate these boom & bust cycles.

re: #121 turn

IIRC that is a punchline to a joke, right? I can't remember the joke though.

Little child on Christmas morning finds among the presents a pile of horse-sh@t. "OH BOY, OH BOY....THERE MUST BE A PONY HERE SOMEWHERE!"

re: #130 ploome hineni

but the TOMATO

remember the TOMATO

Yes, I almost forgot about the Tomatoes.

And it is closed!

re: #96 turn

looks like it was closer to EIGHT billion - although it took him 4 weeks, not two. I'd stay late for that kind of overtime....

Your text to link...

re: #124 P. Aaron

I wish the Real Estate market would bottom out. Over all, we're still not out of the woods with potentially tens of thousands of foreclosures and fraudulent re-fi's to be realized.

Plus, Michigan's still got Granholm, so the recovery won't begin until she's outta here.

Perhaps you could elect Ted Nugent!?

re: #138 eschew_obfuscation

Oh yeah, oh yeah .. good one and so appropriate.

re: #133 WriterMom

hey {WriterMom}
ill be having coffee w/ your dad tomorrow.
:D

A treasure trove of excellent material today at Gateway Pundit.

-58 could have been worse, it could have been raining

re: #144 nyc redneck

So cool! I'm so jealous. I told him I want a full report...

:)

+44.12

I was talking with a guy at a trade show this week. He does pre-employment physicals. He said that his most solid market segment is the restaurant industry, from fine dining to fast food.
In his opinion, that industry is recession proof. Kind of surprised me.

re: #134 Sharmuta

I'm starting to wonder how many of our friendly bloggers are reading the spinoff links considering HotAir and now Ace have both linked to Hillbuzz today.

Better late than never, eh? We've only been posting links from HC Forum and PUMAPac here for the past six weeks now...

re: #146 Desert Dog

Still have to wait a bit for the numbers to catch up, and then any after hours trading.

re: #124 P. Aaron

I wish the Real Estate market would bottom out. Over all, we're still not out of the Woods Foundation with potentially tens of thousands of foreclosures and fraudulent re-fi's to be realized.

Plus, Michigan's still got Granholm, so the recovery won't begin until she's outta here.

Obama needs to be stapled to his hijinks vis-a-vis all this.

re: #77 Defector01

"Don't just stand there, do something" has as much use in government as "No pain, no gain" in physical rehab

Heh - government should better heed what a Brit actor said to an actress at a rehersal: 'Don't just do something - stand there!'

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

LOL.

Charles,

May I suggest another category for spinoff links? I propose "Free Speech". The spinoff link I just posted about Mark Steyn's acquittal could have fit a couple categories, but I think would have fit best under that one.

re: #141 bringmeturi

looks like it was closer to EIGHT billion - although it took him 4 weeks, not two. I'd stay late for that kind of overtime....

Your text to link...

Thanks for the link, too bad it doesn't mention how he did it. I guess he must have been shorting I don't know.

re: #154 WriterMom
YOU!

Hint1: Some large entity mentioned recently taking equity positions in companies.
Hint2: This is a 3 day weekend.
Hint3: The scare-cancer must be stopped

Someone familiar with the markets can figure out what likely happened.

Down 18.88 at the close.

We're, uh, middle class-ish! Time to wash the used Camry with Michelob Light!

I think few traders with foriegn connections to and ties to some new upcoming legislature are behind this Yo Yo crap. Normal traders are either in or they are out. Short traders would have to be insane or very wealthy to play this game. One firm sell's high and buys the stock back low. Firm A. get's a loss write off. Firm B. Maintains a gain. What if both firms are connected and can afford to lose a certain amount for some (unknown to us) future gain.

0.51%

re: #157 Peacekeeper

{PEACEKEEPER-LEH}

I've missed you so! I was all busy attoning yesterday and wasn't on line!

re: #149 opnion

I was talking with a guy at a trade show this week. He does pre-employment physicals. He said that his most solid market segment is the restaurant industry, from fine dining to fast food.
In his opinion, that industry is recession proof. Kind of surprised me.

Fine dining has been slowing down. Fast food - McDonald's, Burger King, Sonic - has been doing great, and will continue to do so. IMO.

re: #159 Occasional Reader

Down 18.88 at the close.

We're, uh, middle class-ish! Time to wash the used Camry with Michelob Light!

Nope, spoke too soon. Numbers still coming in.

re: #162 WriterMom

Easy, people will notice.

re: #159 Occasional Reader

Down 18.88 at the close.

We're, uh, middle class-ish! Time to wash the used Camry with Michelob Light!

I wouldn't wash my toilet bowl with Michelobe light.

re: #149 opnion

I go out to lunch at least once a week and am surprised at how well restaurants are doing at lunch, I would figure a little slow down but I don't see it. The places that did go out of business did so because their rent was raised.

-101.79 now.....hope that's it

re: #161 ackomanyuki

0.51%

If Obama was at the helm today the MSM would be claiming a strong recovery

re: #118 Cap'n DOC

You must be in the fine state of Mind. And I suppose your tank is full, right?

Actually, it's not- Prices are expected to go down even further. I filled up on Sunday when it was $2.92.

re: #149 opnion

I grew up in the restaurant business, and I'm old enough to remember quite a few "bad economies", and that guy was right. As my daddy (z"l) always said, "People gotta eat!"

/thinking of opening a soup kitchen...

re: #158 Max Darkside

Hint1: Some large entity mentioned recently taking equity positions in companies.
Hint2: This is a 3 day weekend.
Hint3: The scare-cancer must be stopped

Someone familiar with the markets can figure out what likely happened.

Oh, don't be coy...

re: #95 jorline

World market at a glance...notice Iceland, no trading...broke!

Yeah - and Russia up by 10.91% ...

re: #136 OldLineTexan

I only feel like Gomez when reine de tout speaks French...it drives me wild.

Bonjour, my cher! Comment êtes-vous aujourd'hui?

re: #164 Occasional Reader

Today the Market has been up and down more than Bill Clinton's pants.

re: #23 littleoldlady

Manufactured chaos. We're being purposefully distracted from the election.

/bought shares in Amalgamated Tin Foil Hat, Ltd.

Let us know if you have sampled their wares - and if so, how's the reception of "snore-y" George Noory/Art BHell/et al on those things.

re: #147 WriterMom

i'm giving him a present for you.
:)

re: #138 eschew_obfuscation

Little child on Christmas morning finds among the presents a pile of horse-sh@t. "OH BOY, OH BOY....THERE MUST BE A PONY HERE SOMEWHERE!"

Actually, it's best known as a Reagan anecdote:

Over lunch today I asked Ed Meese about one of Reagan's favorite jokes. "The pony joke?" Meese replied. "Sure I remember it. If I heard him tell it once, I heard him tell it a thousand times."

The joke concerns twin boys of five or six. Worried that the boys had developed extreme personalities -- one was a total pessimist, the other a total optimist -- their parents took them to a psychiatrist.

First the psychiatrist treated the pessimist. Trying to brighten his outlook, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with brand-new toys. But instead of yelping with delight, the little boy burst into tears. "What's the matter?" the psychiatrist asked, baffled. "Don't you want to play with any of the toys?" "Yes," the little boy bawled, "but if I did I'd only break them."

Next the psychiatrist treated the optimist. Trying to dampen his out look, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with horse manure. But instead of wrinkling his nose in disgust, the optimist emitted just the yelp of delight the psychiatrist had been hoping to hear from his brother, the pessimist. Then he clambered to the top of the pile, dropped to his knees, and began gleefully digging out scoop after scoop with his bare hands. "What do you think you're doing?" the psychiatrist asked, just as baffled by the optimist as he had been by the pessimist. "With all this manure," the little boy replied, beaming, "there must be a pony in here somewhere!"

"Reagan told the joke so often," Meese said, chuckling, "that it got to be kind of a joke with the rest of us. Whenever something would go wrong, somebody on the staff would be sure to say, 'There must be a pony in here somewhere.'"

re: #169 ackomanyuki

Well, once he gets in, the Rainbows and Unicorn and Butterflies and sunshine will all return!

I hate roller coasters. The first pic is symbolic of where this keeps going....when will it end?

re: #163 Racer X

Fine dining has been slowing down. Fast food - McDonald's, Burger King, Sonic - has been doing great, and will continue to do so. IMO.

That actually makes more sense. My guess would be that grocery stores would do very well, as discetionary income diminishes.
The guy swore though ,that fine dining was not suffering.

re: #176 buzzsawmonkey

The question is, what is the Dhow doing in the Arab countries?

The schooner we know, the better.

re: #172 Occasional Reader

Oh, don't be coy...

Heh... I'm not going to give the answer, but I would bet all the cash in my pocket on what I think.

re: #184 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The schooner we know, the better.

IF not, we'll have to punt.

re: #165 Peacekeeper

Hey! My comment disappeared.

It was "LOL...people shmeeple."

:P

If it's any consolation, somewhere there are speculators sitting on thousands of barrels of $150 oil.

re: #167 DoubleU

I go out to lunch at least once a week and am surprised at how well restaurants are doing at lunch, I would figure a little slow down but I don't see it. The places that did go out of business did so because their rent was raised.

Pretty much, what the guy was telling me.

re: #127 Egfrow

That's it. I've had it. We've all got Crutchfeld-Jakobs disease, don't we?

re: #178 nyc redneck

Awww-you're too much. Thanks.

BTW, Good Afternoon, Lizards!

re: #176 buzzsawmonkey

The question is, what is the Dhow doing in the Arab countries?

BUZZSAWMONKEY!
I have reserved some of your lgf poetry for possible inclusion in the cookbook.

May I use them, please?

re: #184 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The schooner we know, the better.

They are too busy playing with their dinghys to count

re: #186 Creeping Eruption

IF not, we'll have to punt.

Carefully though, we cant barge right in or it will just end up junk.

I like how the Dow drops 25 points after the bell rings...

re: #183 ploome hineni

fast food is cheaper than making it yourself and no cleanup

When you think about it, that is probably true & the no clean up is a big bonus. So on to fast food & let's grow & have heart attacks!

re: #176 buzzsawmonkey

Floating - although plugged for the moment.

Way OT:

If any of you collect rare cane begonias and are interested in acquiring starts of some of the more spectacular ones, my email is blue. Time for pre-winter pruning.

So, this is what happens when the market starts watching the polls instead of business?

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

But they have all that geothermal energy they can bottle and sell...

Economic and Global Warming...they're bottling water from the meltdown.

Good news:

Mark Steyn acquitted in Canadian sharia case

re: #197 Salem

After Hours trading and the numbers you see are on a fifteen minutes delay.

re: #200 pink freud

Way OT:

If any of you collect rare cane begonias and are interested in acquiring starts of some of the more spectacular ones, my email is blue. Time for pre-winter pruning.

You drop them in the mail?

re: #200 pink freud

pink! :-)

The deer ate my entire garden this year! :-(

re: #205 reine.de.tout

Woot! Woot!

Yay!

re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Carefully though, we cant barge right in or it will just end up junk.

and we will al be left to scow-l

This is key to Monday:

"The president spoke ahead of his Saturday meeting in Washington with finance ministers and central bankers from the Group of Seven industrialized countries — the United States, Japan, Britain, Germany, France Italy and Canada. The officials are also meeting with Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson, who is spearheading the administration's financial rescue."

Any game changing announcement from this group over the weekend could trigger an upside surge, but expect volatility until after the election and beyond.

All I can say now is 'work your ass off for John and Sarah'. I'm doing the best I can from my den here on the left-coast. Shed light on Barack Obama and get it to the electorate. BHO has been riding on a wave of ignorance but it is flattening out..

re: #175 Peacekeeper

Today the Market has been up and down more than Bill Clinton's pants.

Watching the late numbers chugging in, I'm reminded of the Bart vs. Lisa Magic Fingers motel bed race.

"Come on, Stinky!"

"Come on, Spotty!"

(something like that)

re: #137 P. Aaron

We'll really bottom out when Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Obama, Raines and Jim Johnson are indicted. Until that happens, they are in a position to craft policies that perpetuate these boom & bust cycles.

Indictments would be nice, but I'm not that hopeful.

I just want to see Dodd and Franks voted out!

Hmm. When the (oba)Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And the (oba) Messiah is absolutely speaking. Word up, G.

Such profound words from Calypso Louie!

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

Re: LGF e-mail. Is there a way to send/receive mail w/o leaving your name in it (i.e. my e-mail is my name)? I have never used the LGF safe-mail before.

There are people who make money no matter which way the market goes, as long as it goes. They're the ones who charge per-trade commissions.

re: #197 Salem

I like how the Dow drops 25 points after the bell rings...

Kind of like Kimbo Slice.

re: #75 Desert Dog

DJI

That 6 month look is Fugly!

re: #218 Occasional Reader

Kind of like Kimbo Slice.

LOL!

re: #207 Creeping Eruption

yes, CE, I pack them well so they will survive shipping and ship them off in priority mail boxes. I've been a member at gardenweb (their plant exchange is the best out there) for ten years and have acquired many unique plants this way. If you can root them, I can get you started. Please email though, I don't want to clutter the thread with my plant-mania. :-)

-128, I *think* that's the final figure for the Dow.

Well, um, coulda been a lot worse. And Nasdaq finished up a bit.

Yahoo shows -126.

That's it for me folks, time to go walk the lab along the American.

Next time you hear from me it's going to be from Beijing, that is if they don't block LGF.

If I use the hotel connection I'm sure I'll have to cleanse my computer of spyware and shit when I get back, those Chinese are sneaky little hackers.

I've already been warned about what to avoid mentioning in corporate email from there, they keep their eye on visitors and look out for dissenters that's for sure.

Chat with you all then, take care and don't despair.

Looks like -128.00 8451.19

New McCain commercial is excellent. Ties Obama's character issues and lies about Acorn involvement to the financial meltdown. Very well done.

Just Like a Yo Yo

re: #208 littleoldlady

pink! :-)

The deer ate my entire garden this year! :-(

You're going to lie in wait, aren't you? I know better than to anger a gardener!

Looks like -128.00
closing at 8451.19

re: #216 Creeping Eruption

You could set up a Yahoo, G-mail or hotmail account just for that purpose, and then post it publicly here spelled out (don't put an '@'). But then, anyone seeing the page would see it.

re: #216 Creeping Eruption

Re: LGF e-mail. Is there a way to send/receive mail w/o leaving your name in it (i.e. my e-mail is my name)? I have never used the LGF safe-mail before.

I have a separate gmail account that doesn't have my name in it.

re: #224 turn

That's -128, shit my eyes are going bad.

re: #212 Occasional Reader
COME ON STINKY!

re: #227 sparrowlake

Just Like a Yo Yo

you spin me 'round like a record yo-yo?

re: #208 littleoldlady

pink! :-)

The deer ate my entire garden this year! :-(

HI LOL! Deer! I wouldn't know what to do with deer. All I have to worry about are the overaggressive squirrels knocking things down.

/and hurricanes, of course : -)

Good to see you! It's 80 degrees and I have the day off, so I've been on the patio all day reveling in nature. It's wonderful!

Cavuto on Fox is covering a Pro Capitalism Prostest live now. Someone had a sign that says' Commies out of Congress Now! LOL!

re: #211 Quintus_Arius

This is key to Monday:

Any game changing announcement from this group over the weekend could trigger an upside surge, but expect volatility until after the election and beyond.

All I can say now is 'work your ass off for John and Sarah'. I'm doing the best I can from my den here on the left-coast. Shed light on Barack Obama and get it to the electorate. BHO has been riding on a wave of ignorance but it is flattening out..

This is disconcerting. I live in a really Republican area & There ar more Obama Yard signs than McCain. On my block the only McCain yard sign is me.
I believe that people fear vadalism. I had the yard sign stolen once & replaced it, but nothing more serious.

re: #234 Quad Mocha Matti

you spin me 'round like a yo-yo?

re: #237 null

I live in a very democrat area and I see more McCain/Palin signs. The McCain signs disappeared after the primaries but were replaced with McCain/Palin recently.

re: #214 ploome hineni

mom and Dan working....time to cook, price of gas, I throw half the veges and fruits I buy away..they don;t last very long

you don;t have to fight with the kids to eat pizza or burger

and you don;t have to run the dishwasher and fight with the kids to help

Hey, I personally will take pizza every time & it actually is not junk food.

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re: #236 Egfrow

Cavuto on Fox is covering a Pro Capitalism Prostest live now. Someone had a sign that says' Commies out of Congress Now! LOL!

That would leave alot of empty seats.

Is that a new feature?

re: #205 reine.de.tout

Good news:

Mark Steyn acquitted in Canadian sharia case

It's a great day for Human Rights in Canada!
Yes, HUMAN RIGHTS!

re: #241 null

Ahhh user "NULL!"

re: #17 Power Armored Lizardoid

Wow, one of the few times I'm glad I haven't been investing in the market...Just precious metals like copper, lead, and brass...

Lead...a precious metal. Man, we've come a long ways down.

One of the things about a scientifically advancing economy is how scarcity has a way of bringing forth workarounds. Copper was in tighter supply before we figured out how to use silicon to make fiber optic cables. That freed up most of the copper used by the telecom industry. Look now for carbon fiber in automobiles and airplanes, etc. etc.

There may be a problem with the rare earth elements used in solar photovoltaic. If there is no alternative to those elements as ingredients in solar power cells, large scale solar energy will have to come from using mirrors to concentrate heat and run some sort of thermal cycle engine. This is a promising path anyhow, but it cannot be done small scale and distributed.

You're probably better off investing in these industrially useful metals than in gold. Today's price far exceeds the cost of getting more of the stuff out of the ground, and if somehow the price stayed up where it is now, more mines could be profitably brought back into operation. Unless demand grew tremendously, this would have to force the price down some.

RELOADING!

[drops empty mag slaps in fresh one chambers round]

Winter storms coming to the mid-west this weekend. Damn global warming!

re: #242 null

That would leave alot of empty seats.

Cavuto has gained alot of respect with me since he put that smack down on Bill O'Reilly. Cavuto and Hanity are the only things going on with Fox.

re: #240 null

Hey, I personally will take pizza every time & it actually is not junk food.

Pizza will make you fat if you eat too much of it.. I just eat some of the toppings and toss the bread..
/yea.. I know I'm crazy

re: #239 null

I live in a very democrat area and I see more McCain/Palin signs. The McCain signs disappeared after the primaries but were replaced with McCain/Palin recently.

Very odd. I have a neighbor down the street that is ver active in Repub politics. He actually got to one of Bush's Inaugural balls, you know where republicans all dance like Al Gore to Proud Mary. He does not have a McCain yard sign. I want to see more, but I am in Illinois & maybe they just see it as a lost cause.

re: #231 goddessoftheclassroom

OT - hi goddess!~Could you please be so kind and put my dear friend and neighbour, Anne, on the Lizard prayer list?
She's got a blood disorder, and its not looking good.
Thank you, and thank you to all Lizards.

re: #234 null

you spin me 'round like a record yo-yo?

Whatta ya want, good grammar or good taste?
- channeling punch line from old dirty joke

Anyone else having trouble playing that new McCain ad?

re: #250 HoosierHoops

Pizza will make you fat if you eat too much of it.. I just eat some of the toppings and toss the bread..
/yea.. I know I'm crazy

Makes you realize how little topping there is on most pizza....

re: #251 opnion

That was my comment you quoted, I live in Palm Beach county, and they are still recounting so Algore can dance here.

re: #251 opnion

Very odd. I have a neighbor down the street that is ver active in Repub politics. He actually got to one of Bush's Inaugural balls, you know where republicans all dance like Al Gore to Proud Mary. He does not have a McCain yard sign. I want to see more, but I am in Illinois & maybe they just see it as a lost cause.

You are correct, sir. There is NO McCain campaign office within 30 miles of my house. We had to order our yard sign and bumper stickers from the national website.

re: #252 null

OT - hi goddess!~Could you please be so kind and put my dear friend and neighbour, Anne, on the Lizard prayer list?
She's got a blood disorder, and its not looking good.
Thank you, and thank you to all Lizards.

Sorry to hear that yma...
Hiya Goddess! It's friday! Isn't that great?

re: #237 null

This is disconcerting. I live in a really Republican area & There ar more Obama Yard signs than McCain. On my block the only McCain yard sign is me.
I believe that people fear vadalism. I had the yard sign stolen once & replaced it, but nothing more serious.

You live in a northern 'burb in Cook, IIRC? Down here, in Joliet's west side, Plainfield, and Shorewood, I see almost nothing but McCain signs. A few Obama bumper stickers, but that's it. Even the Larry Walsh (D) supporters (Will County county executive) lack Obama signs.

Anyone else having trouble playing that new McCain ad?

McCain Ad

In other news

Pakistani politics

The Taliban continue to attack the nascent tribal organizing against it movement in Pakistan’s turbulent northwest. A suicide bomber struck at a meeting of Ali Zai tribal leaders in the Arakzai tribal agency, killing 22 and wounding more than 40.

Now that I am thinking about it, Fred Thompson was in Palm Beach County today.

Man, if I could have just bought at every low and sold at every high today, I could retire from one day's fluctuations.

Too bad I'm not clairvoyant.

OT:

Goddess,

If you're still here, would you please add my daughter to the prayer list? She's just been diagnosed with a rare, chronic illness that has been making her sick for quite some time. We're hoping the treatment helps.

Thank you!

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This is way OT but does the lizard community mind giving me some initial thoughts and advice on a new blog post I'm writing up on why I think McCain will still pull this out on Election Day? Keep in mind that is is a very rough draft but here is what I have so far:

I still believe Mccain will be the next President


I still believe that John McCain will be the next President of the United States of America. First of all, contrary to some pundits, the election hasn't happened yet. A month is a lifetime in politics. Anything, and I mean anything can happen between now and Election day. I have a variety of reasons for believing that McCain will pull this out. These reasons go from a biased media that has problems reporting the truth, to Obama himself and his campaign. Let us take a look at them in detail.


Media Bias

I believe that media bias will backfire on Election Day. I think the American people are way smarter then the Liberal media in this country are willing to admit. Americans don't like being told what to do. They also don't like being called 'racist' if they don't vote for Obama. I know I don't. Mainstream media in this nation is, to a degree, a dying profession. i think this will be the last election where they have a sizable effect. The media in this country have never been fully trusted. I think this will be the last straw. media bias has been showing itself in a couple different forms. it goes from "Guess the party affliation' when a Dem politican gets in legal trouble compared to if the pol was a GOP'er where his party gets named in every other sentence. The media is clearly in the tank for obama. they have NEVER questioned him hard. they can go up to Wassila Alaska and find out that 20 years ago Todd palin got a DUI but they can't pursue and look into Obama's ties to ACORN, or Ayers, or Trinity United, or Obama's grades at Harvard, or any papers he wrote at HLR, or anything that may damage 'the one'. Lets call this what it is: BS.

Polling Data

How accurate is the national polling data? I do believe that it offers some accurate information about possible voting trends but it shouldn't be considered 100% accurate.There is a well known phrase that says "The only accurate poll takes place on Election Day". There are some media stories that are reporting that GOP-leaning voters are being under-sampled (need link). Another factor i believe that will have a serious effect on election Day is the "Bradley Effect" ([Link: en.wikipedia.org...] i think this is good for about 5% (at least) of Obama polling numbers. if you add the combination of the bradley effect and the average poll's margin of error together this would make the race a dead heat or even a plus for McCain instead of the current polling that shows a Obama lead.


Obama's Friends

I think the whole situation involving some of Senator Obama's shady friends will have a effect on Election Day. Bill Ayer's Weather Underground membership and what exactly his ties to obama are are finally beginning to get attention and affect voter opinion. Americans don't like terrorism, no matter the cause. Ayers is a unrepentant creep. His friendship with obama does matter.
Will 'Change' Only Help The Democrats?

The conventional wisdom offered by the biased media in this country is that this is a Democrat year. Really? What type of 'Change' do the American people truly want? A under-reported fact is that for the last 2 years that the Dem party has controlled Congress they have had lower approval ratings then even the President (link needed). If Americans truly want 'Change' wouldn't this mean tossing the Dems out?

to be continued.......

re: #250 null

Pizza will make you fat if you eat too much of it.. I just eat some of the toppings and toss the bread..
/yea.. I know I'm crazy

Yeah you have to moderate it, but I am like that Ninja Turtle , that just loves it.

re: #256 null

That was my comment you quoted, I live in Palm Beach county, and they are still recounting so Algore can dance here.

IF I can dance better than him, he is a slug.

re: #266 Charles

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Heh - I reloaded, being very obedient ... no probs here on ye olde FF3.03!

re: #259 null

Illinois will go for Obama, legitimately or not. A McCain vote is pretty much wasted there--though it would certainly be sweet if Downstate were to outvote the Cook County Machine.

I'd relish it. My county (Will) went for Bush in 2000 and 2004, and has been growing rapidly, as have the counties next door (Grundy and Kendall). Both of these also went for Bush in 2000 and 2004.

We just have to convince Peoria, St Clair, and Champaign Counties that it is in their best intrest to oppose anything from Cook County.

re: #228 null

You're going to lie in wait, aren't you? I know better than to anger a gardener!

We're thinking about getting a crossbow...

re: #261 Desert Dog

McCain Ad

That should leave a mark!

re: #251 opnion

Very odd. I have a neighbor down the street that is ver active in Repub politics. He actually got to one of Bush's Inaugural balls, you know where republicans all dance like Al Gore to Proud Mary. He does not have a McCain yard sign. I want to see more, but I am in Illinois & maybe they just see it as a lost cause.

Probably like most people, they are just afraid to put out any kind of McCain/Palin matter. Cars get keyed, signs stolen, yards vandalized. In that area, people may be worried they will be targeted if Obama wins/loses on election night.

I'm just contrary and I put the stuff up. I get people driving by all day waving, honking horns, etc... I also get people that come up when I'm out and ask questions and talk. I've encountered very few cases of hostility and only one where there were implied threats. I merely look over to my old mattock handle leaning against the wall.

Don't be intimidated. That is what certain folks want.

re: #265 Josephine

OT:

Goddess,

If you're still here, would you please add my daughter to the prayer list? She's just been diagnosed with a rare, chronic illness that has been making her sick for quite some time. We're hoping the treatment helps.

Thank you!

I'm so sorry - for the both of you. Here's hoping the treatment works!
{Josephine}

Thanks for the e-mail help folks. I am the proud father of a new G-Mail account. NIC going blue in a few minutes.

re: #265 Josephine

OT:

Goddess,

If you're still here, would you please add my daughter to the prayer list? She's just been diagnosed with a rare, chronic illness that has been making her sick for quite some time. We're hoping the treatment helps.

Thank you!

so sorry to hear this, {Josephine}
i hope the treatment helps too.
prayers and best wishes to you and your daughter,
for her speedy recovery.

I haven't been on LGF for a few days. The comment box looks different. What has changed? Is it the font and colour of the comment number?

It looks great but I feel like I'm trying to figure out why a coworker looks different. (Did he shave a beard or mustache? Darn it, why can't I remember, I see him every day?)