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Friday Night Open

Open | Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:40:25 pm PDT

Another open thread, as an excuse to say it’s time to reload the page again. You may want to clear your browser cache. The underpinnings have shifted.

Bugs will be dealt with.

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1 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:41:17pm

Trying to outrun the gloom

2 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:42:20pm

re: #1 jamgarr

Trying to outrun the gloom

May I jog with you?

3 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:42:23pm

Thought I'd have copany

4 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:42:51pm

company

Welcome jwb

5 MAV  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:43:06pm

TGIF
Drink

6 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:43:07pm
Bugs will be dealt with.


Starship Troopers?

7 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:43:13pm

So, anything happen today?

8 Charles  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:44:08pm

A test. Nothing more.

9 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:44:10pm

re: #7 jamgarr

So, anything happen today?

Obama's signing up new Obama kids, for one.

10 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:44:11pm

The last two threads depress me.
Gloom, despair, and agony on me, deep dark depression, etc.

Most of it isn't the actual news, it's the reaction to the news.

On the upside, it's going to snow here in beautiful downtown Colorado.

11 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:44:15pm

I'm so proud of all the Lizards who are standing by McCain when the going gets a teeny bit bumpy.

/ / / /

12 pat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:44:17pm

Obama is now up by 108 in battle ground States. Meanwhile soup lines have turned riotous when Wall Street foodies discovered that arugula would no longer be served as a side.

13 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:45:18pm

re: #9 gmsc

Obama's signing up new Obama kids, for one.

Oops. Here's the correct link.

(The previous link is good, too. It's just not on the same topic.)

14 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:45:46pm

re: #5 MAV

TGIF
Drink

Drink? Way ahead of you.
You know, it's a good thing Patton isn't here. His arm would fall off from slapping all those that refuse to fight.
Color me disgusted and PO'd.

15 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:45:55pm

Relax. You'll all be taken care of according to (what we define as) your need.

16 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:46:08pm

re: #11 Racer X

I'm so proud of all the Lizards who are standing by McCain when the going gets a teeny bit bumpy.

/ / / /

Which might be one of the reasons I moved to this thread.
I don't want to get labeled as a troll, and do not have much in the way of positive reinforcement to add to some negative comments.

17 Celtic Templar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:46:16pm
18 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:46:17pm
19 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:46:21pm
Bugs will be dealt with.


I confess to committing cricketcide at 9:44AM this morning after a cricket, known only as "jimminy doe" had violated my personal space and harassed me incessantly throughout the night. Confounding all attempts at a humane catch and release deadly force was applied to end the cricket terror...

20 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:46:30pm

re: #8 Charles

A test. Nothing more.

This is only a test.
If it wasn't a test we'd be telling you to run around screaming after kissing your ass goodbye.

21 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:47:02pm

re: #11 Racer X

McCain by landslide imo.

22 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:47:02pm

re: #1 jamgarr

Charles is trying to outrun the down dings two threads back.

23 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:47:25pm

re: #19 anotherindyfilmguy

I confess to committing cricketcide at 9:44AM this morning after a cricket, known only as "jimminy doe" had violated my personal space and harassed me incessantly throughout the night. Confounding all attempts at a humane catch and release deadly force was applied to end the cricket terror...

When negotiations and the UN fail, you have no choice.

24 noshariaincanada  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:47:51pm

how does a person know when it's time to go to sleep?

25 MAV  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:47:59pm

Anyone hear more about this?
[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

26 mikeymom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:48:08pm

well just as i posted this--thread changed--bummed tonight--sis called she is having female probs--was on hormones for 30 yrs- stroke in '03- is having tests mon- prayers please--and son called at noon from his job in evergreen co--he and his crew watched a guy beat the crap out of his dog in next proprty--son wanted animal control number for that county--son and co-workers will testify if needed- son said it was brutal-sigh-- are we drinking yet?

27 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:48:08pm

re: #22 HelloDare

Charles is trying to outrun the down dings two threads back.

In that case, he'll be gone a while, I suspicionate.
Who won (lost?) ?

28 stevieray  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:48:12pm

How about a little music... to get your worries off your mind?

29 ted  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:48:19pm

re: #8 Charles

A test. Nothing more.

Wow: Had me scared for a second there...

30 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:48:24pm

re: #24 noshariaincanada

how does a person know when it's time to go to sleep?

The third time you read the same paragraph

31 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:48:52pm

re: #25 MAV

Anyone hear more about this?
[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Not yet - and waiting with hopeful breath.

32 noshariaincanada  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:48:54pm

re: #30 jamgarr

on that note. good night !

33 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:49:20pm

Dramatic exit.

34 vxbush  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:49:22pm

So has Charles explained why he's now using a miniature version of the bouncing football above for each person's avatar? It's much nicer looking than the previous one.

35 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:49:38pm

re: #23 Hard Right

I decided it was more humane to end it swiftly than chase him to the basement spiders for "snacktime"...

36 ted  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:49:45pm

re: #19 anotherindyfilmguy

I confess to committing cricketcide at 9:44AM this morning after a cricket, known only as "jimminy doe" had violated my personal space and harassed me incessantly throughout the night. Confounding all attempts at a humane catch and release deadly force was applied to end the cricket terror...



Peta Notified.

37 FrogMarch  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:50:18pm

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

"Ex"? [Jonah Goldberg]

AP headline: "McCain TV ad raises Obama's links to ex-radical."

Again, reasonable people can disagree on how to define "radical." But if you're going to say that Ayers is merely an ex-radical, even though he apparently hasn't changed his basic views or apologized for his violent past, I'm a loss how you can ever use "radical right" about people who were never violent at all — and who far less radical than Ayers is today. I mean pretty much every liberal in America refers to Gingrich-style Republicans as "radicals." If they're radicals, what the hell is Ayers?

*sigh*

38 HillJack  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:50:36pm

I have been trying to register here for a couple of years and finally made it. So I wanted to say thanks for providing a place to unload. I don't scream at the TV hardly at all anymore.

39 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:50:55pm

re: #24 noshariaincanada

how does a person know when it's time to go to sleep?

I think it was RealWest who was making silly typos a day or two ago.
I posted a reply to one and included "Go back to sleep".
He took immediate offense, and then calmed down quickly, and I think he went to bed at that point.

Four or five posts later, I did about the same thing he was doing -- PIMF was no help at all.
So, I knew.

40 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:51:11pm

JACKSON TN...Are you here?

41 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:51:44pm

re: #35 anotherindyfilmguy

I decided it was more humane to end it swiftly than chase him to the basement spiders for "snacktime"...

A pack of "assault geckos" are quite adept at handling terrorist crickets. Blackwater geckos are the best.

42 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:52:16pm

re: #38 HillJack

Welcome.

43 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:53:30pm

Perlman, Bach Chaconne

Throw that in the stupid, blunt face of Socialism.

44 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:53:42pm

re: #37 FrogMarch

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

*sigh*

You'd think if the AP actually believed Ayers was an ex-radical, they wouldn't bother with the story.

45 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:54:17pm

Let's get drunk.

46 Dov  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:54:22pm

"Bugs will be dealt with."

Like with RAID or a Flyswatter ?

47 winston06  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:54:26pm

good afternoon

48 BigJohn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:54:38pm

re: #1 jamgarr

Trying to outrun the gloom

I'm with you.

49 StPatrick  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:54:39pm

Somebody mentioned music...in that case, it's TommyTime:

Beatles Medley:

Fantastic Travis picking:

50 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:54:48pm

re: #38 HillJack

Welcome aboard HillJack!

51 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:54:55pm

re: #45 Noam Sayin'

Let's get drunk.

WORD. Back with a Jack in a minute or three.

52 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:55:09pm

re: #45 Noam Sayin'

Let's get drunk.

and screw...

53 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:55:27pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Come early and explore then at 11 or so ...

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

25 miles East of San Francisco.

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring your suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat and thanks to LGF - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Plenty of parking ... 100+.

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

RawMuse hosted that one.

We all like each other.

I volunteered to host the next meet.

This is it.

54 mikeymom  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:55:32pm

re: #45 Noam Sayin'

see my #26--im buying

55 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:56:10pm

Toccata and Fugue in D Minor

56 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:56:13pm

re: #52 joecitizen

and screw...

Whoa there pardner. I'm open minded, but not THAT open minded. Ya have to go to the Daily KOS for man luv.

57 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:56:18pm

re: #52 joecitizen

and screw...

Joe. I like you as a friend.

58 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:56:23pm

do I get to

60 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:56:43pm

hear buzzers and bells

61 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:56:48pm
62 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:57:00pm

No to Socialism!

Shostakovich

63 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:57:07pm

for my 1500th post?

64 Shay4l  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:57:26pm

Mu cache is pretty well cleared out, thank you. Any more clearing and I'll retire when I'm 85.

65 amphibian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:57:44pm

re: #10 jwb7605

The last two threads depress me.
Gloom, despair, and agony on me, deep dark depression, etc.

Most of it isn't the actual news, it's the reaction to the news.

On the upside, it's going to snow here in beautiful downtown Colorado.

The last two threads depress me as well. I was born in the socialist paradise of the USSR, and I do not want to see the same crap happen here. Gloomy and doomy to say so, but it's feeling like a car crash in slow motion. Of course I intend to go vote, and vote 'R' (only one vote, though, since I'm not from Chicago), but Sen. McCain could be helping us out, at least a little. I suppose, optimistically, he's got something really amazingly devastating he's going to pull out the week before the election. If he does, and it works, I'll be glad.

Say hi to Stan, Kyle and Cartman (and Kenny, if he's alive at the moment).

66 eon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:57:48pm

re: #19 anotherindyfilmguy

I confess to committing cricketcide at 9:44AM this morning after a cricket, known only as "jimminy doe" had violated my personal space and harassed me incessantly throughout the night. Confounding all attempts at a humane catch and release deadly force was applied to end the cricket terror...

Beware The Shoe.

cheers

eon

67 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:58:08pm

re: #8 Charles

And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Just a test, nothing more.

68 MrSnuggles  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:58:15pm

Its times like these that make me glad I have a friend that's a registered arms dealer...

69 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:58:25pm

re: #56 Hard Right

Whoa there pardner. I'm open minded, but not THAT open minded. Ya have to go to the Daily KOS for man luv.

re: #57 Noam Sayin'

Joe. I like you as a friend.


you boys need ta find some wimmens..

70 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:58:31pm

re: #59 Ojoe

What part of LA is that, Ojoe?

And where's Sage's house?

71 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:58:45pm

re: #1 jamgarr

Trying to outrun the gloom

No gloom. Shake it off now. There is no time for it. Forget the mainstream media even exists, forget "Troopergate," and forget McCain if you have to. Focus with laserlike precision on the need to keep Barack HUSSEIN HUSSEIN HUSSEIN Obama out of the White House. If John will not fight with every weapon at his disposal, we must fight for him.

72 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:59:11pm

re: #59 Ojoe

A nice one tonight in Coos Bay

73 FrogMarch  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:59:18pm

re: #44 jwb7605

You'd think if the AP actually believed Ayers was an ex-radical, they wouldn't bother with the story.

Anything the AP can do to scrub it clean for Obama.
a little here - a little there.

74 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:59:40pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

It's been quite a week for Poe me talk.

75 sadhu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:59:50pm

World Bank Under Cyber Siege in 'Unprecedented Crisis'
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

hmm

76 Shay4l  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:59:53pm

re: #24 noshariaincanada

*yawn*

77 rorschach  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 6:59:59pm

Here's the election in a nutshell...

Obama...a smart man, but not a good man, maybe even a bad man

McCain...a good man, but not a smart man
.
.
Now, who will cause this country less pain, and why.

78 TMRiddle  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:00:29pm

Am I the only one who thinks pinning hopes on the Bradley effect is a load of shit? I've been following free rep and drudge and every point increase in Obama's polling leads to the Bradley effect being increased a point in the comments.

When it was Obama by 3 - Bradley effect 4. Obama by 4, 5. Obama by 5 -- Bradley Effect is six.

Sorry. But 6% would be 7.2 million people. And as for the PUMAs - I've been following Hillaryis44.org religiously but that is bullshit. I live in Arizona - Air-ee-zone-ah. Conservative bastion that is filled with anti-African American sentiment as well as a slight disgust for immigrants. And Clintonians are supporting Obama.

I'm for throwing polls that are close out. But Gallup's only been wrong twice - and those races were close. And aggregate polling on RCP shows that Bush was ahead in 93 out of the last 100 polls conducted. We need to wake up and stop putting false hope in stupid shit like white guilt.

These posts slamming polls are reading like the kostard movement in the final weeks of the 2004 campaign. Polls can be wrong. But If 100 polls come out showing the same trend, let's man-up and stop giving people the false impression that we'll be fine. Putting campaign signs in your lawn, posting on this blog about confident and that other stuff will *not* change the reality of this sitch. What will is phonebanking. Canvassing. And delivering calm, composed reasoning to persuadables and so-called undecideds that taxing small business will destroy this economy, that we can't afford Medicare and Medicaid as it bloody fucking stands let alone a bloated, federal run health care program - that though this is a recession, we will recover because we always recover.

Or we can do the same shit the Kostards did. We can say November 5th will show us the truth. That we'll be alright on November 5th. And then have our spirits utterly fucking crushed by the reality we ignored.

Work like your 10 points down, 20 points down and if you don't pull your weight, we will lose. If you work like the Bradley effect will save our ass, YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO AN MSM MYTH THAT HAS LITTLE BASIS IN REALITY. OBAMA WON IN STATES WITH WHITES - HE IS POLLING WELL IN WEST VIRGINIA for fuck's sakes. THE BRADLEY EFFECT IS BULLSHIT.

I repeat. BULLSHIT.

[goes to get a drink]

79 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:00:31pm
80 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:00:34pm

re: #69 joecitizen

you boys need ta find some wimmens..

Got one on the hook....I think. At least I hope so. I go more than a few month or two and I get the shakes.

81 noshariaincanada  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:00:46pm

re: #76 Shay4l

*yawn*

ZZZzzzzzz.....

82 rorschach  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:00:51pm

Oops, forgot the "?".

83 StPatrick  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:00:53pm

re: #73 FrogMarch

Ex-terrorist, Current Radical!

84 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:00:55pm

re: #71 Tigger2005

No gloom. Shake it off now. There is no time for it. Forget the mainstream media even exists, forget "Troopergate," and forget McCain if you have to. Focus with laserlike precision on the need to keep Barack HUSSEIN HUSSEIN HUSSEIN Obama out of the White House. If John will not fight with every weapon at his disposal, we must fight for him.

Preaching to the choir Tig

85 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:01:07pm

WTF.

At johnmccain.com, they announced a new web add "Acorn." I clicked on it. It says the video is no longer available.

86 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:01:28pm
87 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:01:51pm

re: #75 sadhu

World Bank Under Cyber Siege in 'Unprecedented Crisis'
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

hmm

This could bring down the UN!

Couldn't it? No? Darn.

88 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:02:17pm

re: #40 Typicalwhitey

JACKSON TN...Are you here?

yeah .......

89 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:03:28pm

re: #85 Tigger2005

WTF.

At johnmccain.com, they announced a new web add "Acorn." I clicked on it. It says the video is no longer available.

It was removed due to a copyright claim by FOX News. They must've used some permission without footage.

It can still be seen here:

90 amphibian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:03:36pm

re: #25 MAV

Anyone hear more about this?
[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Nope. But I'll have a happy drink for it if there's something behind it.

91 StPatrick  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:03:40pm

re: #86 Noam Sayin'

Try "Variations on Ode To Joy". Big thunder in that one, without being so over the top it gets included in a "Power Classical" infomercial. Incredible dynamics, solid theme throughout, you know - Beethoven.

92 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:03:42pm

re: #80 Hard Right

Got one on the hook....I think. At least I hope so. I go more than a few month or two and I get the shakes.


I gotta house full of em'..married one,raising a 15 month old granddaughter and a cat..I am truly a happypappy...

93 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:04:12pm

re: #87 gmsc

This could bring down the UN!

Couldn't it? No? Darn.

So ... maybe turn off the computers and don't turn them back on until some ironclad security is in place?

94 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:04:41pm

Joey D

95 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:05:24pm

re: #92 joecitizen

I gotta house full of em'..married one,raising a 15 month old granddaughter and a cat..I am truly a happypappy...

My recommendation? Go barricade.
///

96 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:05:29pm

re: #93 Tigger2005

So ... maybe turn off the computers and don't turn them back on until some ironclad security is in place?

That works for now. ;)

97 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:05:36pm

re: #86 Noam Sayin'

One of the musical high points of this century. He was a giant.

98 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:05:39pm

re: #65 amphibian

The last two threads depress me as well. I was born in the socialist paradise of the USSR, and I do not want to see the same crap happen here. Gloomy and doomy to say so, but it's feeling like a car crash in slow motion. Of course I intend to go vote, and vote 'R' (only one vote, though, since I'm not from Chicago), but Sen. McCain could be helping us out, at least a little. I suppose, optimistically, he's got something really amazingly devastating he's going to pull out the week before the election. If he does, and it works, I'll be glad.

Say hi to Stan, Kyle and Cartman (and Kenny, if he's alive at the moment).


No kidding!
One of my best friends is a guy from Tajikistan (Dushanbe, to be precise).
When he emigrated to this country, they stripped him of his citizenship.
He's had the opportunity to go back and visit twice, and turned down both opportunities.
(He's an official U.S. Citizen). Seriously conservative guy. He can tell some great anecdotes about life in Russia -- he was in the Russian Army while I was in the Navy (Vietnam). They really got lied to over there ... worse than civilians did here, if you can imagine that.

99 Basho  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:06:46pm

re: #89 gmsc

It was removed due to a copyright claim by FOX News. They must've used some permission without footage.

It can still be seen here: [Link: www.youtube.com...]

I knew when they used that 10 second soundbite from Fox News that it would be taken down. Fair use? What's that?

100 eon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:06:58pm

Obeying the Second Law of LGF

If you think you are too tired to post, you are too tired to post

I'm signing off for the night.

Good Night, Lizards.

Keep the Faith.

(I misspelled that twice, BTW.)

cheers

eon

101 Luigi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:07:17pm

Paulson Says Will Buy Bank Equity `Soon as We Can'
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said the U.S. will buy equity ``as soon as we can'' in banks and other financial institutions to restore market stability and revive economic growth.

Why would anybody believe that the government owning the banks is going to "revive economic growth"?

102 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:07:23pm

re: #88 JacksonTn

yeah .......


Thank you for that video!
And to all lizards....if you think about giving up or losing.....
look at these two pictures

Those are my nephew.

The terrorist who Obama associates himself with, Bill Ayers, is no different than the terrorist who set the roadside bomb that killed him.

Please don't give up the fight to defeat Obama!

103 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:07:53pm

re: #95 Hard Right

My recommendation? Go barricade.
///

thankfully, I have enough property to 'get scarce' on..only so much happiness 1 man should be allowed ta have...

104 thelongblogger  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:08:05pm

"Bugs will be dealt with."

Was it a bug when my browser magically openned 'tag viewer' in a new tab?

At first I thought I must have clicked on it accidentally, but it's hidden behind 'tools'. And it wouldn't create a tab unless I right clicked and specifed 'open in new tab'...

As far as I know.

105 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:08:11pm
106 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:08:20pm

re: #99 Basho

I knew when they used that 10 second soundbite from Fox News that it would be taken down. Fair use? What's that?

I'm not sure, but I think Fair Use allows up to 5 seconds. Can someone better informed on this verify this?

107 MAV  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:08:40pm

A fine drinking tune

108 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:08:59pm

re: #97 godfrey

One of the musical high points of this century. He was a giant.

Listening to the end right now. It's enough to make one's toes curl.

109 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:09:50pm

Allan Petersson's Seventh Symphony. Don't expect to be entertained, exactly.

110 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:09:56pm

re: #103 joecitizen

thankfully, I have enough property to 'get scarce' on..only so much happiness 1 man should be allowed ta have...

The ladies will see to that limited happiness thing. ;)
Seriously, you can never be surrounded by too many good females.

111 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:10:20pm

re: #78 TMRiddle

I don't think here will be much of a Bradley effect. There are so many good reasons people can cite for not voting for Obama. Nobody has to feel guilty for voting against him. So even if people have a prejudice, the Bradley effect would not show up in a poll.

112 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:10:52pm
113 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:10:58pm
The underpinnings have shifted.

Another financial crisis thread?
Where's a lizard go to get a drink around here?

History of the World, Part I on AMC now.
"..Fifteen (crash) - oy - Ten. Ten Commandments..."

114 Luigi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:11:14pm

This is not a well man...

[Link: ap.google.com...]

[Link: ap.google.com...]

I've never seen a time when the world is so threatened by horrid little men.

115 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:11:21pm
116 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:11:37pm

re: #110 Hard Right

The ladies will see to that limited happiness thing. ;)
Seriously, you can never be surrounded by too many good females.


yeah, I'm thinkin' about adding a mistress or 3 once my portfolio gets fat again..heh

117 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:12:54pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

Not enough piano in modern rock music anymore.

118 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:13:35pm

re: #114 Luigi

This is not a well man...

Overcompensating.

119 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:13:42pm

If Obama wins the election, I wonder if he will install foot baths in the Lincoln bedroom? It would be the multicultural thing to do.

120 stevieray  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:13:44pm

re: #75 sadhu

World Bank Under Cyber Siege in 'Unprecedented Crisis'
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

hmm

China again.

They have no honor.

121 amphibian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:14:09pm

re: #43 godfrey

Perlman, Bach Chaconne

Throw that in the stupid, blunt face of Socialism.

Bach's music is an act of worship of a benevolent Creator and a statement of faith that yes, somehow, in the end it all makes sense. Thank you for posting a good link on a bad day.

122 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:14:14pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Not enough piano in modern rock music anymore.

not enough music in modern rock anymore..I'm just sayin'...

123 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:14:34pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

End of the world

Is it the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse or the 4 Jackassmen of the Obamaclypse?

124 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:14:37pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Not enough piano in modern rock music anymore.


Tell me about it

125 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:14:51pm

re: #70 Noam Sayin'

That's mostly Pasadena, Ontario, Upland, La Canada, Lavern.

Don't know where Sage's house is.

126 Luigi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:15:29pm

OBAMA GAY PORNO CZAR LINK
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

Ex-gay porn kingpin Obama money man.

127 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:15:39pm

re: #102 Typicalwhitey

emailed ya .......

128 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:15:45pm

re: #115 taxfreekiller

tell ya, what, if John and Sarah get let down by America,
tfk is going to be one pissed off sob.

and tfk will not be around for a after the loss thread,

end of story

After reading the first line about 4 times, I concluded that is a good way to state the issue. Not a depressing way to say it.

129 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:15:52pm

re: #116 joecitizen

yeah, I'm thinkin' about adding a mistress or 3 once my portfolio gets fat again..heh

LOL. That can be one expensive hobby. It might be less painful to have an NFL field goal kicker kick you in the jewels every day.

130 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:16:35pm

re: #111 HelloDare

I don't think here will be much of a Bradley effect. There are so many good reasons people can cite for not voting for Obama. Nobody has to feel guilty for voting against him. So even if people have a prejudice, the Bradley effect would not show up in a poll.

Problem is...so many people may vote FOR him because he is black. They think it is apologizing and fixing racism and the past. Which, is crap as I think it will make race relations worse...

131 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:16:37pm

I love Debra Messing!

132 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:16:57pm

re: #125 Ojoe

Lavern is one of the dumbest names for a city -- I mean, without going to the silly names like French Lick or Hell.

133 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:17:13pm

re: #125 Ojoe

Ontario. That's where my scooter came from.

Tell 'em I said, "hi."

134 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:17:29pm

re: #129 Hard Right

LOL. That can be one expensive hobby. It might be less painful to have an NFL field goal kicker kick you in the jewels every day.

well, I gotta lotta excess energy..

135 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:18:09pm

re: #114 Luigi

This is not a well man...

[Link: ap.google.com...]

Putin got Tiger just now? Over hear, most of us have already upgraded to Leopard!

(BTW, here's how to tell the difference between a Cheetah and a Leopard.)

136 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:18:53pm

re: #131 MandyManners

I love Debra Messing!

The woman needs to eat! Then she'd be hot all over instead of just from the neck up.

137 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:18:57pm

re: #131 MandyManners

Me, too. She's a minx.

138 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:19:19pm

re: #132 HelloDare

Actually it is La Vern I think. I will check. My great aunt lived there, it was orange orchards then.

Yes, it is "La Verne".

139 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:19:44pm

re: #137 Noam Sayin'

Me, too. She's a minx.


I'd wear her as a coat...

140 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:19:51pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

You mean like this?

141 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:20:02pm

re: #136 Hard Right

The woman needs to eat! Then she'd be hot all over instead of just from the neck up.

She's skinny?!

143 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:20:24pm

re: #134 joecitizen

well, I gotta lotta excess energy..

They will take care of that...along with excess money...and sanity.
Juggled two women once. Nearly killed me. I tip my hat to you.

144 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:20:30pm

re: #137 Noam Sayin'

Me, too. She's a minx.

She's a jewel in Starter Wife.

145 Happy Fun Ball  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:20:50pm
Bugs will be dealt with.


And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

146 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:20:59pm

re: #115 taxfreekiller

tell ya, what, if John and Sarah get let down by America,
tfk is going to be one pissed off sob.

and tfk will not be around for a after the loss thread,

end of story

I would hope you would be. We'll need people like you even more after, than previously. Someones got to lead the revolt.

147 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:21:05pm

re: #140 godfrey

Nice!

148 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:21:13pm

re: #136 Hard Right

The woman needs to eat! Then she'd be hot all over instead of just from the neck up.

I'll take her just the way she is. Although the wife might have a few objections...

149 K~Bob  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:21:38pm

Hey, the stock market can't go negative, can it?
I mean, after zero, can we all relax for a while?
Also, for fans of Schadenfreude, when the market
reaches zero, we'll all have shares worth the
same as those rich $(*&%s who own lots of
Berkshire Hathaway.

Plus, the market will then be another sign for
the times. Another big "O" for the fawning media.

I think we should sell everything now, and buy
gunpowder futures. If nothing else, the future still
holds war in high regard.

(Assume the usual emoticons. I'm *still* harmless. )

150 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:21:49pm

re: #144 MandyManners

She's a jewel in Starter Wife.

Just tuned it in, prompted by your post.

Love redheads.

151 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:22:11pm

re: #141 MandyManners

She's skinny?!

Not like she used to be on Will and Grace. Still, she needs a little more last I saw. Women have curves damnit!

152 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:22:53pm

re: #149 K~Bob

Put your money in tar, feathers, pitchforks and torches. There's a revolution a'brewin'.

153 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:22:55pm

re: #148 Gearhead

I'll take her just the way she is. Although the wife might have a few objections...

They can be closed minded like that.
///

154 jamgarr  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:23:05pm

One of the best sax solos in r&r IMHO

155 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:23:07pm

re: #143 Hard Right

Juggled two women once.

That must take tremendous upper body strength.

156 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:23:46pm

re: #146 Mars Needs Neocons

I would hope you would be. We'll need people like you even more after, than previously. Someones got to lead the revolt.

I think he means the resulting thread, not the whole blog.
I'll also not be posting on that particular thread.
I'd probably violate various and sundry posting rules, and not give a sh!t.

So, I hope that particular thread doesn't occur.

157 sandspur  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:23:48pm

re: #75 sadhu

World Bank Under Cyber Siege in 'Unprecedented Crisis'
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

hmm

The Chinese are trying to take over the world!
/cartman

158 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:23:56pm

re: #155 Gearhead

That must take tremendous upper body strength.

Well, lower body strength and lots of fluids. (rimshot)

159 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:23:59pm

re: #143 Hard Right

They will take care of that...along with excess money...and sanity.
Juggled two women once. Nearly killed me. I tip my hat to you.

studied theatre in college...had to do a bit at the end of term in which we learned how to juggle....gathered 6 or 7 of the girlies onto the stage, lined em' up and then started switching their places..after a minute or so of this I turned to the audience and said "juggling relationships"...

160 cblesz  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:24:01pm

re: #132 HelloDare

Lavern is one of the dumbest names for a city -- I mean, without going to the silly names like French Lick or Hell.


Who here is from LaVerne? I am in San Dimas...

161 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:24:02pm

re: #150 Noam Sayin'

Just tuned it in, prompted by your post.

Love redheads.

The guy who played her X in the first seaaon was an absolute troll.

162 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:24:09pm

I think Ace may be on to something here..

10,000 duplicate/fraudulent registrations in Hamilton County (Cincinnati) and around 8000 bad registrations in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland). Cincinnati story should be out tomorrow, Cleveland one Sunday or Monday.

I didn't see this coming. A gang of community organizers that Obama served as a trainer and lawyer for who not only are responsible for systematic and repellent voter fraud but are also central to the subprime mortgage crisis?

163 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:24:36pm

In a post - election Obama-world are you going to be willing to wear the "Racist" armband he'll make all of his critics wear?

164 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:24:42pm

re: #156 jwb7605

I think he means the resulting thread, not the whole blog.
I'll also not be posting on that particular thread.
I'd probably violate various and sundry posting rules, and not give a sh!t.

So, I hope that particular thread doesn't occur.

Amen Brother.

165 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:24:53pm

re: #151 Hard Right

Not like she used to be on Will and Grace. Still, she needs a little more last I saw. Women have curves damnit!

Looks pretty curvy to me.

166 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:25:30pm

re: #159 joecitizen

studied theatre in college...had to do a bit at the end of term in which we learned how to juggle....gathered 6 or 7 of the girlies onto the stage, lined em' up and then started switching their places..after a minute or so of this I turned to the audience and said "juggling relationships"...

Theatre women.....happy sigh. Fun women.

167 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:26:35pm

re: #165 MandyManners

Looks pretty curvy to me.

That may be since the baby. Before that she looked like a preeteen boy. A shame because I thought she'd be stunning if she was at a human weight.

168 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:27:14pm

Read alegrias again:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

169 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:27:24pm

re: #167 Hard Right

That may be since the baby. Before that she looked like a preeteen boy. A shame because I thought she'd be stunning if she was at a human weight.

The show's on USA.

170 Luigi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:27:37pm

Great pix of Paris Hilton stamp at Maggie's...

[Link: maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com...]

171 K~Bob  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:27:55pm

re: #152 Noam Sayin'

Put your money in tar, feathers, pitchforks and torches. There's a revolution a'brewin'.


Crap. That means acoustic guitars being strummed badly. I hate that.

(Assume, etc...)

172 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:28:02pm

re: #149 K~Bob

Hey, the stock market can't go negative, can it?
I mean, after zero, can we all relax for a while?
Also, for fans of Schadenfreude, when the market
reaches zero, we'll all have shares worth the
same as those rich $(*&%s who own lots of
Berkshire Hathaway.

Plus, the market will then be another sign for
the times. Another big "O" for the fawning media.

I think we should sell everything now, and buy
gunpowder futures. If nothing else, the future still
holds war in high regard.

(Assume the usual emoticons. I'm *still* harmless. )

THought for the day: If the stock market were to keep up it's same rate of decline, it would only take another 18-20 days to reach zero!

173 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:28:29pm

Is it going to get better?

174 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:28:29pm

re: #161 MandyManners

First time I've ever watched.

175 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:28:30pm

re: #169 MandyManners

The show's on USA.

Watched it a lot. Trust me, she looked anorexic.
(Do I have to turn in my penis because I watched the show?)

176 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:28:38pm

re: #170 Luigi

Great pix of Paris Hilton stamp at Maggie's...

[Link: maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com...]

Sorry, most men I know would be afraid to lick that. *stamp.

177 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:28:54pm

re: #130 cblesz

Problem is...so many people may vote FOR him because he is black. They think it is apologizing and fixing racism and the past. Which, is crap as I think it will make race relations worse...

I have a very close friend who is on the fence. He said a few months ago that electing Obama would send a message to the world. I couldn't believe it. Tried to talk sense into him. He acknowledged all the points I made, but still in the end he thought that electing Obama would be a good thing to do for some weird reason that he could not pin down.

I have a new line of reasoning I've tried on a couple people: If you researched Obama's friends you wouldn't let him house sit for you. Yet, you are willing to make him President of the United States.

178 faraway  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:29:06pm

Turns out the guy Palin fired, Monegan, may have also abused his ex-wife


[she] sought a temporary restraining order against him - accusing Monegan of threatening to kill her, waving a gun at her and dislocating her shoulder, according to her declaration on file in Santa Clara County Superior Court.

fightthepalinsmears.com

179 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:29:52pm

re: #176 Mars Needs Neocons

Sorry, most men I know would be afraid to lick that. *stamp.

First stamp to pass on a venereal disease.

180 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:30:30pm

I don't want Obama to win because the same Palestinian low-lifes celebrating on 911 will be celebrating again.

181 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:30:34pm

re: #176 Mars Needs Neocons

Sorry, most men I know would be afraid to lick that. *stamp.

Dinner, movie, and a blood test. Too expensive.

182 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:30:42pm

My new favorite music video:

183 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:30:54pm

re: #163 DistantThunder

In a post - election Obama-world are you going to be willing to wear the "Racist" armband he'll make all of his critics wear?

If that is what it would take for people to know that I did not put him in office ..... yes ......... but that is not the reason I will not be voting for Obama the Marxist ......but I will not be responsible for getting him elected.

I need to get a grip .........

184 Captkirk35  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:31:24pm

re: #65 amphibian

Let's hear what the strongest arguments McCain can use from some of the Lizzards here. Make the case for him, and against Obama. What would you like to hear on Tuesday?

Someone on Fox spoke to this earlier tonight, and I think it's exactly the right argument that will score major points. McCain should make the same case:

The worst thing we can do to fix this mess is over-react and veer too far the other way towards too much new regulation, which could, and very likely would, clog the pipes. We need to trust the market, while protecting it from artificial, government authored mandates. The roots of our economic woes started with loosening standards, and a spasm the other way could be very hurtful to a recovery. If the next administration layers on a bunch of new regulations and taxes, especially on small businesses, any recovery will at best be weighted down, and at worst seized up completely. All signs point to an Obama administration following just this prescription.

Do we need some new oversight? Yes. But it's must be the RIGHT KIND of oversight. Between his tax increases on small business', his zeal to regulate, his dreams of an expanded government, and the special interests in his party, an Obama presidency is simply too risky for our country, at a critical time like this, to take a chance on.

185 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:31:35pm

re: #176 Mars Needs Neocons

Sorry, most men I know would be afraid to lick that. *stamp.

I sat down to the computer and read this. Oh God!
Like a verbal tubgirl.

186 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:32:27pm

re: #184 Captkirk35

Wednesday.

187 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:32:37pm

re: #185 Dar ul Harbarian

I sat down to the computer and read this. Oh God!
Like a verbal tubgirl.

She' a human trampoline.

188 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:32:52pm

It's not going to get to zero. People don't want to buy right now because they think it's going to go lower. Wouldn't you?

At some point, someone's going to say, "It's time to get in."

I'm predicting 12.5k by February.

sorry, no time to post a disclosure. get in the market at your own risk.

189 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:33:23pm

re: #162 Yankee Division Son

I think Ace may be on to something here..

I don't see the direct link that Ace eludes to. Dates?

190 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:33:36pm

More signs of the exponentially expanding psychological disorder (aka mental illness, aka liberalism, aka the cult of obamessiah), as covered by David Boze, a conservative radio host from 770 KTTH in Seattle:

The Perfect Gift for Children Who Need to Learn to Worship Obama

and this one: Seattle's Kid Zombies for Obama, Obama the "Messiah", AND Will YOUR kids learn to report YOU?

One listener to Dave's program called in to suggest that there be a "Pit Bulls for Palin" event at Green Lake park in Seattle, concurrent with the obamaton love-fest. It would be quite a sight, I'm sure!

191 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:33:38pm

If Obama is getting in I predict a barrage of 25 missiles from Gaza timed to coincide with 100 more from Lebanon.

192 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:33:56pm

re: #10 jwb7605
i had to stay signed out so i didn't add to gloom. just read and accept wise advice from those that were giving it.

193 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:33:58pm

re: #174 Noam Sayin'

First time I've ever watched.

The first season was a riot.

194 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:34:09pm

re: #184 Captkirk35

Let's hear what the strongest arguments McCain can use from some of the Lizzards here. Make the case for him, and against Obama. What would you like to hear on Tuesday?

Someone on Fox spoke to this earlier tonight, and I think it's exactly the right argument that will score major points. McCain should make the same case:

The worst thing we can do to fix this mess is over-react and veer too far the other way towards too much new regulation, which could, and very likely would, clog the pipes. We need to trust the market, while protecting it from artificial, government authored mandates. The roots of our economic woes started with loosening standards, and a spasm the other way could be very hurtful to a recovery. If the next administration layers on a bunch of new regulations and taxes, especially on small businesses, any recovery will at best be weighted down, and at worst seized up completely. All signs point to an Obama administration following just this prescription.

Do we need some new oversight? Yes. But it's must be the RIGHT KIND of oversight. Between his tax increases on small business', his zeal to regulate, his dreams of an expanded government, and the special interests in his party, an Obama presidency is simply too risky for our country, at a critical time like this, to take a chance on.

Blah blah blah.

Those singing kids were SO CUTE!

195 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:34:13pm

re: #191 lifeofthemind

If Obama is getting in I predict a barrage of 25 missiles from Gaza timed to coincide with 100 more from Lebanon.

And a partridge in a pear tree...

196 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:34:17pm

re: #173 lifeofthemind

Is it going to get better?

it's always darkest before the dawn..etc. etc.

197 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:34:20pm

re: #177 HelloDare

I have a very close friend who is on the fence. He said a few months ago that electing Obama would send a message to the world. I couldn't believe it. Tried to talk sense into him. He acknowledged all the points I made, but still in the end he thought that electing Obama would be a good thing to do for some weird reason that he could not pin down.

I have a new line of reasoning I've tried on a couple people: If you researched Obama's friends you wouldn't let him house sit for you. Yet, you are willing to make him President of the United States.

Ask him if he knows who wants obama to win - the Palestinians - Hamas has a campaign office for him. Gadaffi wants him to win. Hugo Chavez who Ayers continues to visit as a friend, wants him to win. Farrakan wants him to win. Iran wants him to win. Iraqis are terrified of Obama winning.

Now I'm going to throw up.

198 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:34:22pm

re: #138 Ojoe

Actually it is La Vern I thinks. I will check. My great aunt lived there, it was orange orchards then.

Yes, it is "La Verne".

The name La Verne sounds worse than it look. Lempster NH is another good one. Sound like it's full of not very bright, chubby people.

199 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:34:27pm

re: #175 Hard Right

Watched it a lot. Trust me, she looked anorexic.
(Do I have to turn in my penis because I watched the show?)

Where would you turn it in?

200 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:34:47pm

re: #175 Hard Right

Watched it a lot. Trust me, she looked anorexic.
(Do I have to turn in my penis because I watched the show?)


yes.

201 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:35:19pm

Got my plane back in the hanger,and got here as quick as i could,,What did i miss?,And I have good news,Obama is an A**hole.

202 NeoKong  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:35:55pm

...

203 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:36:00pm

re: #178 faraway

Turns out the guy Palin fired, Monegan, may have also abused his ex-wife


fightthepalinsmears.com

The left and MSM would not care if he were a pedophile as long as they could beat up Palin with something.

(Where's Snedgar?)

204 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:36:26pm

re: #201 Oldasdirt

missed us! here is a beer and lime.

205 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:36:27pm

re: #201 Oldasdirt

Got my plane back in the hanger,and got here as quick as i could,,What did i miss?,And I have good news,Obama is an A**hole.

Don't I know it.

(check the avatar)

206 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:36:34pm

re: #196 joecitizen

it's always darkest before the dawn..etc. etc.


That's what you told the puppy.

207 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:37:01pm

re: #192 willowone

i had to stay signed out so i didn't add to gloom. just read and accept wise advice from those that were giving it.

Sucks. You're not gloomy.

208 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:37:04pm

re: #199 MandyManners

Where would you turn it in?

I have no idea. I'm just afraid the Testosterone Club will revoke my membership. I bet a dem male would know where to turn in his manhood. Seems to be a requirement to be a dem.

209 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:37:20pm

Very good web ad on Obama's ties to ACORN on [Link: www.johnmccain.com....]

Kind of takes the bite out of it when McCain turns around and insists that Obama is a "decent" man, I admit, even if McCain doesn't entirely believe that. But we can't let it get us down. Roll with the punches, even if they come from your side, and come back swinging.

210 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:37:23pm

re: #11 Racer X

I'm so proud of all the Lizards who are standing by McCain when the going gets a teeny bit bumpy.

/ / / /

What choice is there? There is no Canada to move to for conservatives.

211 Captkirk35  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:37:33pm

re: #194 Dar ul Harbarian

LOL.. yup. That's about it. [fingers in ears].. blah blah blah! I can't hear a word you're saying blah blah blah!

And that's just the thoughtful ones...

212 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:37:40pm

re: #204 willowone

missed us! here is a beer and lime.

Thanks for the Beer.AHHHH!

213 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:01pm

re: #208 Hard Right

I think the stamp lady is collecting them.

214 Shay4l  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:02pm

re: #178 faraway

Turns out the guy Palin fired, Monegan, may have also abused his ex-wife


fightthepalinsmears.com


If the dems make that A*hole their champion, they deserve the backlash they'll get

215 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:20pm

re: #205 Noam Sayin'

Don't I know it.

(check the avatar)

Very good Avatar,,ROFL.

216 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:29pm

re: #163 DistantThunder

In a post - election Obama-world are you going to be willing to wear the "Racist" armband he'll make all of his critics wear?

Only if the goon remaining after I run out of ammo steps over the dead bodies of his friends to try to force me.

Even then, I am a Cho Dan in TKD and not _that_ old yet...

217 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:39pm

re: #200 joecitizen

yes.

Aww come on. I thought Megan Mullally was hot and I have 13 different guns.

218 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:47pm

re: #203 MandyManners

The left and MSM would not care if he were a pedophile as long as they could beat up Palin with something.

(Where's Snedgar?)

Now you're tempting me to ask Snedgar if he ever dated Palin's sister.
If I do that, I'd appreciate some *snicker* from a few people, and I'd not tell him anything.

219 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:52pm

re: #203 MandyManners

Here's the actual conclusion of the report on Palin:

I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Gov. Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as a commissioner of public safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin’s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
220 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:57pm

re: #208 Hard Right

I have no idea. I'm just afraid the Testosterone Club will revoke my membership. I bet a dem male would know where to turn in his manhood. Seems to be a requirement to be a dem.

Why is it called "manhood"?

221 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:38:58pm

re: #207 jwb7605
now i'm Fine, it was a bad week for many , money and primary exhaustion.
Now we must laugh it's friday woo hoo!

222 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:39:09pm

Top 20 Post-Masculine Democrats (Libs say Obama is first Post-masculine leader)
(WIMPS)

1 Obama
2 Chrissy Matthews
3

223 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:39:44pm

re: #222 DistantThunder

3. Harry Reid

224 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:39:51pm

re: #222 DistantThunder
3 olberman

225 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:39:53pm

re: #213 pink freud

I think the stamp lady is collecting them.

Yup. Just ask the Dallas Cowboys...

226 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:39:53pm

re: #218 jwb7605

Now you're tempting me to ask Snedgar if he ever dated Palin's sister.
If I do that, I'd appreciate some *snicker* from a few people, and I'd not tell him anything.

ROFLMAO!

227 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:40:03pm

re: #205 Noam Sayin'

Check out my Avatar,,some real smart Libs.

228 bosforus  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:40:20pm

woah, new footballs!

229 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:40:31pm

re: #219 godfrey

Here's the actual conclusion of the report on Palin:

But that won't be the lede or the introduction.

230 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:40:31pm

re: #182 gmsc

My new favorite music video:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That was hilarious. (and I actually like the real song and video.)

231 NeoKong  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:40:34pm

One more try.

232 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:40:36pm

re: #220 MandyManners

Why is it called "manhood"?

I could tell, but then I'd have to kill myself....wait a minute...

233 freedombilly  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:40:47pm

Freedombilly reporting live on business from London. What goes tonight, Lizards?

234 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:41:00pm

re: #222 DistantThunder

Top 20 Post-Masculine Democrats (Libs say Obama is first Post-masculine leader)
(WIMPS)

1 Obama
2 Chrissy Matthews
3

Olbermann.

235 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:41:07pm

re: #219 godfrey

Here's the actual conclusion of the report on Palin:

Doesn't matter. The meme is out there.

236 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:41:28pm

re: #220 MandyManners

Why is it called "manhood"?


because dickhead just aint polite...

237 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:41:32pm

re: #235 Dar ul Harbarian

The meme will die quickly.

238 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:41:54pm

re: #232 Hard Right

I reckon that sounds better than "package".

239 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:42:01pm

re: #222 DistantThunder

Colmes

240 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:42:07pm

re: #233 freedombilly

Freedombilly reporting live on business from London. What goes tonight, Lizards?

Careful which threads you read... lots of lizards down in the dumps.

241 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:42:18pm

re: #236 joecitizen

because dickhead just aint polite...

Well, there's that.

242 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:42:36pm

shmekling shmuck -attached

243 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:42:45pm

Top 20 Emassculated Democrats (Libs say Obama is first Post-masculine leader)
(WIMPS)

1 Obama
2 Chrissy Matthews
3


Tweaked.

244 freedombilly  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:42:48pm

re: #240 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Britain is a little freaked out about the current financial state of affairs to say the least.

245 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:42:50pm

re: #227 Oldasdirt

Wait a minute,,thats showing my old one,,but I got a new one.It was working this morning.

246 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:43:06pm

re: #222 DistantThunder

Top 20 Post-Masculine Democrats (Libs say Obama is first Post-masculine leader)
(WIMPS)

1 Obama
2 Chrissy Matthews
3 Harry Reid
4 Barney Frank
5 Dennis Kuchinich


Fifteen more, and we're there!
/this is a drinking game, right?

247 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:43:08pm

re: #237 godfrey

The meme will die quickly.

Maybe. It was released on a Friday.

248 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:43:31pm

re: #194 Dar ul Harbarian

Those singing kids were SO CUTE!

Forget Ayers, Rezco, Wright, and ACORN (for just a moment) and think about those kids, the teenagers in that other video, those who earnestly call him "The One", and folks like Farrakhan who have proclaimed him the mesiah. Any time Americans start to treat ANY politician with such worship, it's time to get nervous. I would have serious concerns about anyone who cultivates, or even plays along with, that kind of reverence among voters.

249 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:43:36pm

Oh, goodness. There's a guy on the down-low on Starter Wife.

250 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:43:40pm

re: #246 jwb7605
hagel, murtha

251 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:44:19pm

re: #244 freedombilly

Britain is a little freaked out about the current financial state of affairs to say the least.

Soros trying out for "Magnificent Bastard" status.

I still think he's B-list at best.

252 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:44:27pm

re: #246 jwb7605

Fifteen more, and we're there!
/this is a drinking game, right?

Can't drink. We don't have terlets tomorrow.

253 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:44:31pm

Kerry.

254 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:44:48pm

re: #249 MandyManners

Oh, goodness. There's a guy on the down-low on Starter Wife.

I feel sorry for the wives of such men. Some deserve no sympathy because it's obvious, but others give no clue.

255 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:44:48pm

6. Dick Durbin

256 spirochete  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:45:23pm

I know this will be a shocker, but my brother who lives in Alaska participated in some of the tracking polls. They were obviously worded to promote Obama, no question about it. He said it was laughable, so he gave pro-Obama answers.

He ain't voting for Obama.

257 freedombilly  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:45:34pm

David Archuletta from American Idol just sang God Bless America at the Rays/Sox game and he embellished it so much you could hardly identify the melody.

258 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:45:35pm

Durbin just admitted that Illinois total catastrophe is pure democrat responsibility.
he's only saying it to keep his job. he says he wants to be at the table to help fix it.

Not only to the Democrats have no shame - they border on sociopathic.

Mr Durbin - you are the political and economic cancer!

259 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:45:36pm

barney frank can't be post masculine as he was never pre masculine..although premature..possibly

260 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:45:57pm

re: #234 MandyManners

Olbermann.

Where does Tom BrokenJaw fit in the list? And the tankers on CBS/ABC Radio for that matter?

261 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:45:58pm

Well Is T.Rezko talking? Anybody know.?

262 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:46:19pm

re: #209 Tigger2005

Very good web ad on Obama's ties to ACORN on [Link: www.johnmccain.com....]

Kind of takes the bite out of it when McCain turns around and insists that Obama is a "decent" man, I admit, even if McCain doesn't entirely believe that. But we can't let it get us down. Roll with the punches, even if they come from your side, and come back swinging.

McCain should have said this "Now listen to this, I do not want anyone making any wild statements about Obama or making anything that could be a threat for two reasons. One because it is wrong. We can fight and win better than that and I will not tolerate any threats or abuse. Second, now listen to me and calm down, second is that I have heard a report that some extreme partisans who want to make us look bad are going to try to infiltrate rallies and cause trouble by saying something provocative or otherwise try to make us look bad. So simmer down, don't do anything rash and use that anger. Does it make you angry? It should, it makes me angry. So don't give our friends in the press booth anything ugly to show the American people. Now about your question about Senator Obama's friends....

263 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:46:34pm

re: #259 joecitizen

barney frank can't be post masculine as he was never pre masculine..although premature..possibly

That's it. I'm drilling a hole in my head to kill that image. (YOU B*ASTARD!)

264 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:46:42pm

re: #252 Wyatt Earp

Can't drink. We don't have terlets tomorrow.

I go with hanging out the second-floor window. Right on the captain's car.

265 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:46:53pm

re: #250 willowone

hagel, murtha

Chucky Hagel is "officially" a Republican.
I was born and raised in Nebraska, and I like to tweak people in a certain western town (Bridgeport, actually) about him.

266 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:46:58pm

re: #260 Quad Mocha Matti
20?

267 Carolyn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:00pm

Have you ever noticed how Republicans are the only ones who brag about "reaching across the aisle"? "Working with the other side".
Democrats are proud to be intransigent.

268 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:04pm

re: #258 DistantThunder

Durbin just admitted that Illinois total catastrophe is pure democrat responsibility.
he's only saying it to keep his job. he says he wants to be at the table to help fix it.

Not only to the Democrats have no shame - they border on sociopathic.

Mr Durbin - you are the political and economic cancer!

In just a few weeks I get to vote against the SOB. Not that it will work, but I'm still allowed to do it.

269 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:09pm

re: #248 Gearhead

Forget Ayers, Rezco, Wright, and ACORN (for just a moment) and think about those kids, the teenagers in that other video, those who earnestly call him "The One", and folks like Farrakhan who have proclaimed him the mesiah. Any time Americans start to treat ANY politician with such worship, it's time to get nervous. I would have serious concerns about anyone who cultivates, or even plays along with, that kind of reverence among voters.

A cult of personality is a rare thing in American politics. I can't recall seeing one. Can't say it does anything but scar the shit out of me. These people may ruin my children's future.

270 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:13pm

re: #254 Hard Right

I feel sorry for the wives of such men. Some deserve no sympathy because it's obvious, but others give no clue.

Down-low guys hide it pretty well.

271 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:24pm

re: #222 DistantThunder

Top 20 Post-Masculine Democrats (Libs say Obama is first Post-masculine leader)
(WIMPS)

1 Obama
2 Chrissy Matthews
3


The Dems up is down and truth are lies.

The Men (Obama) are women and the women (Hilary) are men.

272 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:24pm

re: #265 jwb7605
i Refuse to admit he is, HE is Not ! so there..

273 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:33pm

re: #263 Hard Right

That's it. I'm drilling a hole in my head to kill that image. (YOU B*ASTARD!)


beer'll work just as good...

274 bcgirl  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:47:41pm

i am still going to vote for McCain/Palin and i will still defend them next week at work when the omamaassah people ridicule me. when they WIN, i will simply smile and say "bless your hearts"

275 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:48:08pm

re: #260 Quad Mocha Matti

Where does Tom BrokenJaw fit in the list? And the tankers on CBS/ABC Radio for that matter?

I don't see Brokaw there.

276 faraway  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:48:20pm

McCain is fighting back hard

The Palins make no apologies for wanting to protect their family and wanting to bring attention to the injustice of a violent trooper keeping his badge and abusing the workers’ compensation system.

The Palins are right to be concerned about the fairness of the Legislative Council investigation. The Governor has consistently demonstrated, in statements and through documents she has made available, that she reassigned Mr. Monegan because of legitimate policy differences and disputes over the budget.

It is tragic that a false story hatched by a blogger after drinks with Trooper Wooten led the legislature to allocate over $100,000 of public money to be spent in what has become a politically driven investigation.

Fight Smears

277 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:48:22pm

re: #270 MandyManners

Down-low guys hide it pretty well.

I've met a couple where they didn't.
Ladies: If they like show tunes more than you, TAKE THE HINT!

278 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:48:26pm

Dan Rather

279 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:48:31pm

re: #197 DistantThunder

Ask him if he knows who wants obama to win - the Palestinians - Hamas has a campaign office for him. Gadaffi wants him to win. Hugo Chavez who Ayers continues to visit as a friend, wants him to win. Farrakan wants him to win. Iran wants him to win. Iraqis are terrified of Obama winning.

Now I'm going to throw up.

A hard left friend (from HS and retired CalTrans Engineering Manager) argued the Gitmo detainees should be brought to U.S. soil and given rights. I told him that was OK with me if he would house them at his Sierra Nevada retirement home and take responsibility for their actions.

That was months ago ... haven't had an email from him since.

280 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:48:37pm

re: #264 MandyManners

I go with hanging out the second-floor window. Right on the captain's car.

Mandy - It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Of course, the Captain and his aides are off on weekends. The grunts? Not so much.

281 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:48:47pm

re: #266 willowone

20?

I'm fine with that as long as they're represented somewhere on the list

282 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:03pm

Charlie Rose

283 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:07pm

re: #272 willowone

i Refuse to admit he is, HE is Not ! so there..

Yeah, well, technically I get to say nanee nanee boo boo!

284 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:26pm

re: #274 bcgirl don't give up We haven't lost !

285 Indymaestro  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:26pm

All you people calling out McCain for berating those idiots at his rallies need to get a grip (calling Obama an 'Arab' or a 'terrorist' does not make our side look good) - besides, whatever conservatives and libertarians are, we should not be and are not simple-minded, self-loathing, deceitful hacks that left-wingers almost invariable are.

Leave the frothing insanity to the likes of the Obamatons.

286 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:35pm

re: #273 joecitizen

beer'll work just as good...

That's a myth. Beer does not kill brain cells. Liver cells tho...

Now where did I leave that drill...

287 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:42pm

re: #277 Hard Right

I've met a couple where they didn't.
Ladies: If they like show tunes more than you, TAKE THE HINT!

Down-low guys are typically very macho African-American men.

288 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:44pm

Charlie Gibson

289 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:49:56pm

re: #131 MandyManners

I love Debra Messing!

Do you love her Mandy, or just like her a lot.
*snort*

290 scratch  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:50:22pm

Look on the bright side: CNN.com has not gone to their new "widescreen" format with the Palin story. Maybe not so much in the tank after all?

291 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:50:23pm

re: #283 jwb7605 damn you! have a beer and slice of lime, salt is by coaster, please use it.

292 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:50:23pm

re: #280 Wyatt Earp

Mandy - It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Of course, the Captain and his aides are off on weekends. The grunts? Not so much.

Can you pee under his door?

293 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:50:27pm

Catie Couric is masculine

294 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:50:37pm

here come da rays...and someone shoulda hornswaggled that "singer" about 3 notes in...

295 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:50:45pm

re: #268 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In just a few weeks I get to vote against the SOB. Not that it will work, but I'm still allowed to do it.

Yes, but your vote is canceled out but multiple fraudulent ballots. So, in reality, you only have 1/4 or 1/10th of vote, or something.

296 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:50:55pm

re: #269 Dar ul Harbarian

A cult of personality is a rare thing in American politics. I can't recall seeing one. Can't say it does anything but scar the shit out of me. These people may ruin my children's future.

Personally, I'm waiting for the mandatory rallies.

297 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:51:01pm

Hey - although they're both so irrelevant, where does "Is Larry King Alive?" or that old senile dinosaur Walter Cronkite fit in? Is ol' Walt even around yet?

298 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:51:16pm

re: #289 HDrepub

Do you love her Mandy, or just like her a lot.
*snort*

She's not a "typical" beauty which makes her all the prettier.

299 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:51:33pm

re: #292 MandyManners

Can you pee under his door?

Awesome! I should try that! :)

300 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:51:37pm

Why isn't Ayers in jail?

301 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:51:44pm

re: #290 scratch

Look on the bright side: CNN.com has not gone to their new "widescreen" format with the Palin story. Maybe not so much in the tank after all?

Maybe they're waiting until Monday?

302 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:51:46pm

re: #290 scratch

Look on the bright side: CNN.com has not gone to their new "widescreen" format with the Palin story. Maybe not so much in the tank after all?

No it's that the story says she was within her legal right to do what she did. if you understand that what they did was a political hit job - then you understand why the first and second items in the document contradict each other.

303 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:51:58pm

re: #295 Dar ul Harbarian

Yes, but your vote is canceled out but multiple fraudulent ballots. So, in reality, you only have 1/4 or 1/10th of vote, or something.

Prolly... but then, I've lived in Illinois my whole non-service life. I've always been outvoted by the undead.

304 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:02pm

re: #276 faraway

McCain is fighting back hard

Fight Smears

and that might actually do some good. Linking Obama to smear merchants (to use Bill O'Reilly's term) is a good way to attack him without allowing an effective counter.

305 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:02pm

re: #296 Gearhead
hha, i hope they still allow lipstick : }

306 Infidel_One  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:12pm

re: #210 Dar ul Harbarian

What choice is there? There is no Canada to move to for conservatives.

I think you will find Western Canada more in line with McCain than with that ....that......grrrrrr pretender in the empty suit

307 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:20pm

re: #300 godfrey

Why isn't Ayers in jail?

Why isn't a majority of the Legislative branch in jail?

308 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:26pm

re: #287 MandyManners

Down-low guys are typically very macho African-American men.

I see. My multicultural conditioning was showing.

309 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:32pm

Now every hard working conservative american's vote counts at 3/5's

310 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:36pm

re: #299 Wyatt Earp

Awesome! I should try that! :)

Maybe pee in a cup first, then pour it.

Gosh. I'm awful.

311 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:52:55pm

re: #299 Wyatt Earp

Awesome! I should try that! :)

Illegal surveillance.

312 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:53:08pm

re: #291 willowone

damn you! have a beer and slice of lime, salt is by coaster, please use it.

beer -- lime -- salt -- same sentence?
I gots some Jose Cuervo, but I'm about ready for JD #2.
Then I'll really start in.
:)

313 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:53:11pm

Mandy,

I've been a huge follower of James Lee Burke since before he made it big ...he was writer in residence at the local college back in the eighties and is sort of a legend 'round here, especially since he writes of this area and specifies locations that many of us locals can identify ...especially when he goes down memory lane and writes of what "used to be there".

We know those places.

However. He does book signings at a little hole-in-the-wall bookstore called Books Along the Teche in New Iberia, right down the road from the mansion he just built along the bayou.

He strolls along main street looking just like he does on the book flaps. He eats in the local lost-in-time cafes along Main Street. It's not uncommon to see him just hanging out having coffee. You'd think he was one of the most affable guys in the world.

I've attended several of his book signings. He doesn't have a word for anyone. I was really surprised at his manner. No politeness, no conversational or polite exchanges ....just him and a couple of ex-football player looking thugs standing guard as he quietly signs books. We were all ushered out after our book was signed. Then after I read Tin Roof Blowdown and realized just how *progressive* he was, I became a non-fan.

Too bad.

/capitalism has served him well, nevertheless

314 scratch  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:53:17pm

re: #301 MandyManners

Maybe they're waiting until Monday?

Monday is already reserved for the next race card.

315 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:53:41pm

re: #308 Hard Right

I see. My multicultural conditioning was showing.

It can skew things at times.

316 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:53:51pm

re: #300 godfrey

Why isn't Ayers in jail?

Bad wiretap.

317 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:54:02pm

re: #309 DistantThunder

Now every hard working conservative american's vote counts at 3/5's

I think that may vary from state to state - yours is a highly optimistic estimate

318 K~Bob  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:54:04pm

re: #172 gmsc

THought for the day: If the stock market were to keep up it's same rate of decline, it would only take another 18-20 days to reach zero!

That hurts to think about! Even for just a zero.

(Assume etc. )

319 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:54:06pm

re: #310 MandyManners

Maybe pee in a cup first, then pour it.

Gosh. I'm awful.

Maybe, but funny as Hell tonight!

320 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:54:13pm

re: #300 godfrey

Why isn't Ayers in jail?

Because his daddy is loaded.

321 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:54:18pm

I understand there were problems with the case against Ayers at the time. But surely he did enough, and confessed to enough, to bring him up on other charges. Why hasn't anyone gone after him?

322 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:54:31pm

WAsn't it the battle of Jericho where the odds were against the people - but they were told "We are more than they," meaning the help of heavenly beings - and the battle was won?

323 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:54:46pm

re: #246 jwb7605

Fifteen more, and we're there!
/this is a drinking game, right?

Bill Maher

324 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:55:04pm

re: #300 godfrey

Why isn't Ayers in jail?

Screw up on wiretap.

325 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:55:25pm

re: #313 pink freud

Then after I read Tin Roof Blowdown and realized just how *progressive* he was, I became a non-fan.

Too bad.

/capitalism has served him well, nevertheless

Doesn't he have a ranch in Montana?

326 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:55:34pm

re: #287 MandyManners

Down-low guys are typically very macho African-American men.

I'll never forget the Mad TV sketch of a gay rapper. It made too much sense.
He pointed out how gay "brothers writing poetry" and "being down for their homies" was.
"I may be the only one saying it, but I'm not the only one playin' it."

327 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:55:43pm

re: #314 scratch

Monday is already reserved for the next race card.

There is one?

328 DistantThunder  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:55:45pm

re: #321 godfrey

I understand there were problems with the case against Ayers at the time. But surely he did enough, and confessed to enough, to bring him up on other charges. Why hasn't anyone gone after him?

What about civil rights charges against him brought by the families of the victims?

329 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:55:49pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Bad wiretap.

Locking him up would be racist.

330 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:55:52pm

re: #312 jwb7605

think i'll stick to a glass of wine, one shot of anything and i retch, cry and passout.

331 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:56:11pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Something's wrong with that system. That guy should be sitting in San Quentin, not ghostwriting Obama's memoir.

332 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:56:30pm

re: #323 pink freud

Bill Maher

can ya be post masculine and dick hookers and strippers come what may? (e i e i o?)

333 RTLM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:56:34pm

Pirate Update:

Pirates: "Pay rrransom, or tanks go allah akBOOM!"

334 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:56:43pm

re: #319 Wyatt Earp

Maybe, but funny as Hell tonight!

It would be a funny secret.

335 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:56:43pm

re: #320 Metal Man

Because his daddy is loaded.

I would be too if I gave life to that scum.... oh... you mean rich, nevermind.

As you were...

336 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:56:54pm

re: #196 joecitizen

it's always darkest before the dawn..etc. etc.

After a while the king led his men away somewhat eastward, to come between the fires of the siege and the outer fields. Still they were unchallenged, and still Theoden gave no signal. At last he halted once again. The City was now nearer. A smell of burning was in the air and a very shadow of death. The horses were uneasy. But the king sat upon Snowmane, motionless, gazing upon the agony of Minas Tirith, as if stricken suddenly by anguish, or by dread. He seemed to shrink down, cowed by age. Merry himself felt as if a great weight of horror and doubt had settled on him. His heart beat slowly. Time seemed poised in uncertainty. They were too late! Too late was worse than never! Perhaps Theoden would quail, bow his old head, turn, slink away to hide in the hills.

Then suddenly Merry felt it at last, beyond doubt: a change. Wind was in his face! Light was glimmering. Far, far away, in the South the clouds could be seen dimly as remote grey shapes, rolling up, drifting; morning lay beyond them.

But at that same moment there was a flash, as if lightning had sprung from the earth beneath the City. For a searing second it stood dazzling far off in black and white, its topmost tower like a glittering needle; and then as the darkness closed again there came rolling over the fields a great boom.

At that sound the bent shape of the king suddenly sprang erect. Tall and proud he seemed again; and rising in his stirrups he cried in a loud voice, more clear than any there had ever heard a mortal man achieve before:

Arise, arise, Riders of Theoden!
Fell deeds awake; fire and slaughter!
spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered,
a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises!
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!

With that he seized a great horn from Guthlaf his banner-bearer, and he blew such a blast upon it that it burst asunder. and straightaway all the horns in the host were lifted up in music, and the blowing of the horns of Rohan in that hour was like a storm upon the plain and a thunder in the mountains.

Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!

Suddenly the king cried to Snowman and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Eomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first eored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Theoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Orome the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them ...

337 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:57:01pm

re: #333 RTLM

Pirate Update:

Pirates: "Pay rrransom, or tanks go allah akBOOM!"

Aargh!

338 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:57:27pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Bad wiretap.

And I weep. Still!

339 MAV  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:57:30pm

re: #252 Wyatt Earp

Can't drink. We don't have terlets tomorrow.

[Link: www.allmusicals.com...]

340 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:57:32pm

So is it okay for Obama to campaign for Odinga? Video is proof he was campaigning this piece of crap.

PLEASE WATCH

341 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:57:46pm

re: #321 godfrey

I understand there were problems with the case against Ayers at the time. But surely he did enough, and confessed to enough, to bring him up on other charges. Why hasn't anyone gone after him?

Anything that was connected to that investigation that was gathered using the surveillance was forbidden--fruit of the poisoned tree.

342 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:57:50pm

re: #323 pink freud

Bill Maher

Where's Jon Leibowitz (aka Stewart)?

343 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:58:13pm

re: #325 MandyManners

Yes, built concurrently. The Teche is in his blood though.

344 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:58:23pm

re: #331 godfrey

Something's wrong with that system. That guy should be sitting in San Quentin, not ghostwriting Obama's memoir.

No, Ayers should be dead. He was a communist terrorist, he should be tried for treason and then executed.

345 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:58:34pm

re: #326 Hard Right

I'll never forget the Mad TV sketch of a gay rapper. It made too much sense.
He pointed out how gay "brothers writing poetry" and "being down for their homies" was.
"I may be the only one saying it, but I'm not the only one playin' it."

I've heard it's incredibly taboo in the African American community.

346 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:58:50pm

re: #337 Wyatt Earp

That's a win for our side, I think.

347 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:58:56pm

re: #336 Tigger2005

After a while the king led his men away somewhat eastward, to come between the fires of the siege and the outer fields. Still they were unchallenged, and still Theoden gave no signal. At last he halted once again. The City was now nearer. A smell of burning was in the air and a very shadow of death. The horses were uneasy. But the king sat upon Snowmane, motionless, gazing upon the agony of Minas Tirith, as if stricken suddenly by anguish, or by dread. He seemed to shrink down, cowed by age. Merry himself felt as if a great weight of horror and doubt had settled on him. His heart beat slowly. Time seemed poised in uncertainty. They were too late! Too late was worse than never! Perhaps Theoden would quail, bow his old head, turn, slink away to hide in the hills.

Then suddenly Merry felt it at last, beyond doubt: a change. Wind was in his face! Light was glimmering. Far, far away, in the South the clouds could be seen dimly as remote grey shapes, rolling up, drifting; morning lay beyond them.

But at that same moment there was a flash, as if lightning had sprung from the earth beneath the City. For a searing second it stood dazzling far off in black and white, its topmost tower like a glittering needle; and then as the darkness closed again there came rolling over the fields a great boom.

At that sound the bent shape of the king suddenly sprang erect. Tall and proud he seemed again; and rising in his stirrups he cried in a loud voice, more clear than any there had ever heard a mortal man achieve before:

Arise, arise, Riders of Theoden!
Fell deeds awake; fire and slaughter!
spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered,
a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises!
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!

With that he seized a great horn from Guthlaf his banner-bearer, and he blew such a blast upon it that it burst asunder. and straightaway all the horns in the host were lifted up in music, and the blowing of the horns of Rohan in that hour was like a storm upon the plain and a thunder in the mountains.

Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!

Suddenly the king cried to Snowman and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Eomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first eored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Theoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Orome the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them ...


wordy sumbitch,aintcha?

348 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:58:57pm

re: #339 MAV

[Link: www.allmusicals.com...]

"It's Guys and Dolls, not Guys and Guys!" - George Costanza

349 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:59:08pm

C'mon Sarah... do it...

"Ah, Senator McCain... are you trying to win this thing?"

350 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:59:27pm

re: #217 Hard Right

Aww come on. I thought Megan Mullally was is hot and I have 13 different guns.

There. Fixed.

(Saw a few seconds of the Broadway Young Frankenstein and all I have to say is yum.)

351 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:59:29pm

re: #346 jaunte

That's a win for our side, I think.

Absolutely correct.

352 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:59:36pm

re: #345 MandyManners

I've heard it's incredibly taboo in the African American community.

Not as much as it used to be, but when I used to hang with the thugs it was grounds for violent assault at any time.

353 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:59:37pm

re: #300 godfrey

Why isn't Ayers in jail?


The prosecution suffered from premature ejaculation. He was so incredibly guilty of so much they got sloppy and compromised individual cases trying to run down the network. Guess they felt that in a war stopping the violence was more important than getting a conviction.

354 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 7:59:54pm

re: #344 Dark_Falcon

No, Ayers should be dead. He was a communist terrorist, he should be tried for treason and then executed.

Punishment is for little people.

355 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:00:26pm

re: #341 MandyManners

Anything that was connected to that investigation that was gathered using the surveillance was forbidden--fruit of the poisoned tree.

Saul Alinsky strategy. Make the establishment live up to the letter of their law while you plot against it.

356 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:00:27pm

re: #353 lifeofthemind

The prosecution suffered from premature ejaculation. He was so incredibly guilty of so much they got sloppy and compromised individual cases trying to run down the network. Guess they felt that in a war stopping the violence was more important than getting a conviction.

Oh. An OJ situation.

357 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:00:36pm

re: #343 pink freud

Yes, built concurrently. The Teche is in his blood though.

Is he a ragin' Cajun?

358 fsjeffrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:00:50pm

I was wondering about US citizens who have off-shore bank accounts.

If you have a large account in say, the bahamas, france or japan, do those countries have entities comparable to the FDIC in order to have their assets insured?

359 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:01:02pm

re: #350 Mars Needs Neocons

There. Fixed.

(Saw a few seconds of the Broadway Young Frankenstein and all I have to say is yum.)

I'll look for a video. :)

360 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:01:05pm

re: #328 DistantThunder

What about civil rights charges against him brought by the families of the victims?

If the families had joined and gone after him al la OJ - and we had astute enough legal minds at the time - he would have been toast financially.

361 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:01:07pm

Man Shot 3 Times Claims Obama Shirt As Cause

Funny, this is precisely why I haven't worn my Nobama shirt yet.

362 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:01:41pm

re: #352 Hard Right

Not as much as it used to be, but when I used to hang with the thugs it was grounds for violent assault at any time.

Why?

363 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:02:03pm

re: #355 mich-again

Saul Alinsky strategy. Make the establishment live up to the letter of their law while you plot against it.

J Edgar Hoover must be rolling in his grave.

364 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:02:12pm

re: #344 Dark_Falcon

Sounds like treason to me. I don't understand how these guys are not only still walking around, they're damn near winning the White House.

If you think the Secret Service and military had problems with the Clintons, just wait until Ayers is invited to a White House dinner.

365 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:02:40pm

re: #355 mich-again

Saul Alinsky strategy. Make the establishment live up to the letter of their law while you plot against it.

Yes but, the law SHOULD follow the rules.

366 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:02:53pm

we aree on the side of the future, and the' ODM is the agent of Change and Hope'. But we cannot be the 'agents for' Change 'if we believe in 'Business As Usual'

who does all this sound like >?

[Link: www.raila07.com...] and His "vision" tab on site

367 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:03:00pm

re: #264 MandyManners

I go with hanging out the second-floor window. Right on the captain's car.

Heh. Made me remember some guys hurling out a second floor window when I was in the Army (ancient history), right on the first sergeants window.

368 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:03:02pm

re: #346 jaunte

That's a win for our side, I think.

I was gonna say -is blowing up that ship really a bad thing? (except for the crew, of course)

369 Shay4l  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:03:04pm

re: #347 joecitizen

wordy sumbitch,aintcha?

Yeh, but they're worthy words

370 godfrey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:03:07pm

These people are at war with us.

371 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:03:11pm

Sooo....

Hows-about some NSFW, totally tasteless humor to cheer folks up?

The Terrible Secret Behind the World's Greatest Card Trick.

372 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:03:14pm

re: #340 JacksonTn

that was for you ^

373 RTLM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:03:14pm

re: #351 Wyatt Earp

re: #346 jaunte

That's a win for our side, I think

.


Absolutely correct.

33 less tanks tanks in Africa never hurt anybody.

374 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:04pm

re: #361 TheMatrix31

Man Shot 3 Times Claims Obama Shirt As Cause

Funny, this is precisely why I haven't worn my Nobama shirt yet.

Let the race riots begin.

375 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:05pm

GM in talks with Chrysler to merge.

376 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:15pm

re: #362 MandyManners

Why?

surely you know the unreasoning nature of men who find their 'manhood' threatened...

377 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:28pm

re: #361 TheMatrix31

That story stinks to high heaven. Police are "still looking" for the mystery assailant. Why is that even in the news?//

378 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:31pm

re: #367 HDrepub

Heh. Made me remember some guys hurling out a second floor window when I was in the Army (ancient history), right on the first sergeants window.

Not a popular fellow?

379 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:32pm

I think I've forgotten how to get drunk.

I just drank a whole glass of tonic.

Went to mix another drink; realized I forgot to pour in the vodka.

380 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:38pm

re: #345 MandyManners

I've heard it's incredibly taboo in the African American community.

On a "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" episode, homosexuality among black men was called "being on the 'down low'."

381 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:40pm

re: #372 willowone

that was for you ^

link not working .....

382 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:04:59pm

re: #298 MandyManners

She's not a "typical" beauty which makes her all the prettier.

I am attracted women such as her, and find her quite attractive.

383 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:05:08pm

re: #376 joecitizen

surely you know the unreasoning nature of men who find their 'manhood' threatened...

Ah. Yes.

384 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:05:13pm

re: #373 RTLM

I wish we could sink the ship (save the crew) before the small arms are offloaded.

385 Florida Lady  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:05:18pm

re: #184 Captkirk35

Let's hear what the strongest arguments McCain can use from some of the Lizzards here. Make the case for him, and against Obama. What would you like to hear on Tuesday?

Someone on Fox spoke to this earlier tonight, and I think it's exactly the right argument that will score major points. McCain should make the same case:

The worst thing we can do to fix this mess is over-react and veer too far the other way towards too much new regulation, which could, and very likely would, clog the pipes. We need to trust the market, while protecting it from artificial, government authored mandates. The roots of our economic woes started with loosening standards, and a spasm the other way could be very hurtful to a recovery. If the next administration layers on a bunch of new regulations and taxes, especially on small businesses, any recovery will at best be weighted down, and at worst seized up completely. All signs point to an Obama administration following just this prescription.

Do we need some new oversight? Yes. But it's must be the RIGHT KIND of oversight. Between his tax increases on small business', his zeal to regulate, his dreams of an expanded government, and the special interests in his party, an Obama presidency is simply too risky for our country, at a critical time like this, to take a chance on.

The case against Obama? Where to begin . . . my head spins:

143 Days in the US Senate
Big gaps in his past - especially college years at Columbia
How could one be named to the Harvard Law Review and never publish a single scholarly work?
His college thesis
His medical records were never released - why?
I found it curious that no one from his past except his wife & some siblings could or would vouch for his character at the Dem convention.
$1 million/day in requested earmarks since being elected to US Senate
opposition to BAIPA (Born Alive Infant Protection Act)
Opposition to guns rights
Stifling of free speech
No credible specific plans to help the economy
Plans to double capital gains rate, even forfeiting an increase in revenue to the government, in the interest of "fairness"
Further explanations of past relationships - Ayers, Resko, etc
Why did he launch his political career in the living room of Ayers?
Why did he write the blurb for the cover of Ayer's book?
Why was he running for public office as a member of the New Party in Chicago?
Was his trip to Kenya to support "cousin" Odinga's candidacy funded by the taxpayers?

That's what I can think of right off the top of my head, not stopping my typing.

Maybe we can get a list of these points together and send it to Sarah Palin, since McCain is tone-deaf to us . . .

386 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:05:25pm

re: #369 Shay4l

Yeh, but they're worthy words


hey, I dinged him up fer it..we're cool....

387 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:05:38pm

re: #333 RTLM

Pirate Update:

Pirates: "Pay rrransom, or tanks go allah akBOOM!"

Allah Akboom? Is that the same as "Aloha Snackbar"?

388 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:05:49pm
389 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:05:49pm

re: #380 Tigger2005

On a "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" episode, homosexuality among black men was called "being on the 'down low'."

It's not just on L&O. It's all over.

390 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:06:00pm

re: #357 MandyManners

Is he a ragin' Cajun?

The locals all consider him one of "ours". I don't know if he was born here (Lafayette area .......Jeanerette, I believe) or not. I know that the local lore has him a part of the local writer's underground before he made it big.

/I have a signed first edition of Lost Get Back Boogie, as well as signed firsts of everything except the last couple.

/His daughter, Alafair, is a fair writer also. Same flavor.

391 Shay4l  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:06:01pm

re: #379 Noam Sayin'

I think I've forgotten how to get drunk.

I just drank a whole glass of tonic.

Went to mix another drink; realized I forgot to pour in the vodka.

You'll feel fine in the morning!

392 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:06:59pm

re: #378 MandyManners

Not a popular fellow?

Just a drunken accident. The first sergeant's orderly room window just happened to be right below the cookie tossing.

393 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:07:01pm

re: #379 Noam Sayin'

I think I've forgotten how to get drunk.

I just drank a whole glass of tonic.

Went to mix another drink; realized I forgot to pour in the vodka.

Drink forgotten vodka straight, then 10 jumping jacks to mix thoroughly.

394 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:08:01pm

re: #362 MandyManners

Why?

The assault or not as taboo?
Well, more gay black men have come out of the closet over the years and there is more tolerance for them as a result.
As far as the assault, it was a macho thing. When I was young (at the time of the 80's gang explosion) I actually got into a fight because I didn't like the way someone looked at me. It was hyper-macho stupidity. I had someone get in my face because I was smiling for no apparent reason. "What the f*ck are you smilin' 'bout boy?"
You got "cred" by using women or being violent. That was the scumbag definition of "being a man".

I got lucky. My folks pulled me out of that neighborhood. Otherwise I would be dead or in jail.

395 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:08:15pm

re: #390 pink freud

The locals all consider him one of "ours". I don't know if he was born here (Lafayette area .......Jeanerette, I believe) or not. I know that the local lore has him a part of the local writer's underground before he made it big.

/I have a signed first edition of Lost Get Back Boogie, as well as signed firsts of everything except the last couple.

/His daughter, Alafair, is a fair writer also. Same flavor.

He was born in Houston, I think.

Does he have a raccoon?

396 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:08:31pm

re: #393 Gearhead

Drink forgotten vodka straight, then 10 jumping jacks to mix thoroughly.

Rum chased with beer works well. WARNING: Can cause severe hurling!

397 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:08:38pm

re: #379 Noam Sayin'

I think I've forgotten how to get drunk.

Open can. Drink. Repeat.

398 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:08:42pm

re: #388 willowone

[Link: www.raila07.com...]

Thanks Willow ...... I am at the point that when I have to say here's your change ...... I say here is the remainder of the money you gave me ....... Change has become almost a curse word to me .......... sad

As to Obama/Odinga ........ what's another communist between friends ....... I cannot believe he is giving almost the same speech in Kenya as America ..... geez

399 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:08:42pm

re: #392 HDrepub

Just a drunken accident. The first sergeant's orderly room window just happened to be right below the cookie tossing.

Did he get into trouble?

400 stevieray  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:08:53pm

re: #162 Yankee Division Son

I think Ace may be on to something here..

Damn, I love Ace!

I wanna start my own blog just so I can get one of those "Moron Blogger" thingies from him!

401 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:09:20pm

re: #367 HDrepub

Heh. Made me remember some guys hurling out a second floor window when I was in the Army (ancient history), right on the first sergeants window.

Sounds like an incident that occurred when I was a 1SG. I had me some "volunteer" labor for a couple of weeks that time. Ahhh Soldiers do know how to have a good time.

402 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:09:22pm

re: #375 Irene NYC

GM in talks with Chrysler to merge.

It will not make any difference in the long run - short term golden parachutes.

403 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:09:27pm

Oh, it's already starting. Watching late night news and suddenly see the wine store around the corner from my house has been robbed at gunpoint along with 7 other businesses on the east side. Bloomberg is not doing as good of a job as Rudy did keeping this sort of stuft at bay. And it's gonna get worse as cuts go into effect.

404 brett  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:09:49pm

I'm just going to say something about the Jeremiah Wright thing and John McCain. I really don't want to hear someone or some branch of the RNC who had the money to run some ads on their own complain about Barak winning without John hammering him on this topic. If you have the money to run some ads, then you need to step up. Barak sat there for 20 years listening to a man defile this country and did not one thing to get away. He should be hammered about that for the next 25 days, and no one with the money to do it needs to complain. There, that's all I'm going to say on that subject!

http://www.myspace.com/obamaandjeremiah

405 offendi  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:09:57pm

Where is the media concern about the age and competency of Joe Biden who thinks President Roosevelt addressed the nation on television about the depression? Hoover, Joey, and there was no TV at the time.

The only up side to the massive media tanking for Obama is that they will flay his hide off when he bungles the economy and gets us into a major international crisis through his obvious lack of the necessaries. They will turn on him on a dime.

Obama has the real rocket scientists available to help him as President, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Schumer, and Bwarney Frank. Heh.

406 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:09:58pm

re: #333 RTLM

Pirate Update:

Pirates: "Pay rrransom, or tanks go allah akBOOM!"

I dares you, I double dares you wussey

407 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:10:05pm

re: #394 Hard Right

Smart parents.

408 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:10:07pm

Palin needs to pick another VP/ running mate.

409 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:10:13pm

re: #400 stevieray

Damn, I love Ace!

I wanna start my own blog just so I can get one of those "Moron Blogger" thingies from him!

Please G-d let something stick to this Slick Rick .......

410 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:10:18pm

re: #398 JacksonTn
understood, It bends my mind a bit also.

411 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:10:36pm

re: #396 HDrepub

WARNING: Can cause severe hurling!


Isn't that an Olympic sport?

412 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:10:39pm

ok Lizards..strange noises out back..me and mr .380 gonna have a looksee..brb (inshalla)

413 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:10:58pm

re: #378 MandyManners

Not a popular fellow?

Or the 1SG window was on the first floor or basement window (as was mine) while the barracks was above.

414 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:11:05pm

re: #399 MandyManners

Did he get into trouble?

No, Top just made them clean off his window. Off duty drunkeness was looked upon with a wry smile back in those days.

415 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:11:07pm

re: #402 Bobibutu

If you would have borrowed from your 401k and bought a Corvette a month ago, you would still have the car.

416 RTLM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:11:18pm

re: #384 jaunte

I wish we could sink the ship (save the crew) before the small arms are offloaded.

Its in the middle of the ocean surrounded by US Navy ships. The Navy is allowing replenishment boats to offload onto the freighter.

Day after tomorrow, they should all back off to 5 mile radius and wait them out.

My prayers to the crew.

417 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:11:37pm

re: #411 Rancher

Isn't that an Olympic sport?

Comes right after the cookie tossing.

418 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:11:39pm

re: #412 joecitizen

ok Lizards..strange noises out back..me and mr .380 gonna have a looksee..brb (inshalla)

*cocks PPK*

I got yer back.

419 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:12:07pm

WTF? Is Ohio the new Chicagoland?

1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS
'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.

420 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:12:24pm

re: #407 MandyManners

Smart parents.

I was dropped into a school that was overwhelmingly middle class and white. The "gang thing" hadn't caught up to the area and it was a totally different environment. Still took me over a year to be comfortable sitting with my back to people.

421 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:12:32pm

re: #379 Noam Sayin'

I think I've forgotten how to get drunk.

I just drank a whole glass of tonic.

Went to mix another drink; realized I forgot to pour in the vodka.

Bet if you had done it vicey versey you wouldn't have taken so long to catch on. ;-)>

422 RTLM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:12:42pm

re: #387 Dark_Falcon

Allah Akboom? Is that the same as "Aloha Snackbar"?

lol - Something like that

423 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:12:53pm

re: #413 Outrider

Or the 1SG window was on the first floor or basement window (as was mine) while the barracks was above.

Exactly.

424 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:13:14pm

bbl

425 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:13:31pm

re: #386 joecitizen

hey, I dinged him up fer it..we're cool....

I didn't take the comment personally lol ... it WAS a long one!

But I wish someone would read that passage to McCain before the next debate ...

426 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:13:52pm

re: #395 MandyManners

I don't know! (tripod, if so)

The countryside where he built is beautiful .........the epitome of the old Civil War south ......hundred year old oaks dripping with spanish moss, limbs spreading out horizontally for 50-60 feet, property gently sloping down to the bayou so that the early morning fog comes creeping in, just like in his books. Magical stuff.

427 solomonpanting  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:14:18pm

Austrian far-right leader Joerg Haider died in a road accident Saturday, APA news agency reported quoting the police.

428 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:14:30pm

re: #412 joecitizen

ok Lizards..strange noises out back..me and mr .380 gonna have a looksee..brb (inshalla)

Sure hope you have that thing on full auto. Yikes.

429 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:14:31pm

Evening Lizards!

What's the drinking word tonight?

430 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:14:57pm

re: #409 JacksonTn

Please G-d let something stick to this Slick Rick .......


Just got back from getting my daughter.
Email coming back to ya!

431 poopeedoo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:15:24pm

re: #45 Noam Sayin'

Let's get drunk...

and be somebody~ (I just Love Toby Keith.)

432 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:15:44pm

re: #429 JCM

Evening Lizards!

What's the drinking word tonight?

The word is the...............................................dri nk twice!

433 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:16:12pm

re: #429 JCM

Evening Lizards!

What's the drinking word tonight?

"Reply Quote" every time you see these two words together take a big shot of vodka.

434 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:16:36pm

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

Gee, ya think?

Or maybe Ohio laws actually allow you register no more than 70 times?

435 Shay4l  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:16:41pm

I wonder if the Hezbians can wait until Bush is out of office to launch their attack. They must be chomping at the bit with all the new weapons they got from Iran.

436 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:16:46pm

re: #429 JCM

Evening Lizards!

What's the drinking word tonight?

Hey, JMC...drinking word should be Dow or ACORN.

437 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:18:02pm

re: #429 JCM

Evening Lizards!

What's the drinking word tonight?

Post-Masculine Democrats
re: DistantThunder #222

438 Macker  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:18:32pm

re: #40 Typicalwhitey

Are you in TN?

439 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:18:38pm

re: #431 poopeedoo

Heya, newbie.

Cute nick.

440 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:18:43pm

re: #415 mich-again

If you would have borrowed from your 401k and bought a Corvette a month ago, you would still have the car.

Yeppers - and there are other options. Some cos. are waking up to the fact they can not hold their employees hostage to their decisions as to what they can invest in.

Downside liability may be recoverable if the co. restricts their investment options. Hello.

441 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:18:46pm

re: #413 Outrider

Or the 1SG window was on the first floor or basement window (as was mine) while the barracks was above.


Sebastian Flyte introduced himself to Charles Ryder by standing outside Ryder's ground floor window and vomiting into his room in Brideshead Revisited.

442 alegrias  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:19:08pm

What about Hugo Chavez shutting down 115 McDonald's stores in rotten Venezuela today? For supposed "tax" reasons? Doesn't that sound Obama-like to you? Mafiosi, Chicago politicians' tactics, ACORN threatening lenders back in the day?

Yo quiero un Big Mac Attack--how about millions of angry Venezuelan fast food fans take down that fat slob Chavez?

443 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:19:49pm

re: #401 Outrider

I was in the Marine Corps Reserve. First day of drill, Saturday, would find us doing our three mile run with that wonderful odor of beer sweat wafting from over 100 "reformed" alcoholics.

"Reformed" until Saturday night.

444 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:20:10pm

re: #442 alegrias

What about Hugo Chavez shutting down 115 McDonald's stores in rotten Venezuela today? For supposed "tax" reasons? Doesn't that sound Obama-like to you? Mafiosi, Chicago politicians' tactics, ACORN threatening lenders back in the day?

Yo quiero un Big Mac Attack--how about millions of angry Venezuelan fast food fans take down that fat slob Chavez?

He's gone plaid...

445 RTLM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:20:17pm

re: #442 alegrias

What about Hugo Chavez shutting down 115 McDonald's stores in rotten Venezuela today? For supposed "tax" reasons? Doesn't that sound Obama-like to you? Mafiosi, Chicago politicians' tactics, ACORN threatening lenders back in the day?

Yo quiero un Big Mac Attack--how about millions of angry Venezuelan fast food fans take down that fat slob Chavez?

Chavez could be Obama's running mate.

446 formercorpsman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:20:37pm

re: #375 Irene NYC

Wow.

447 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:20:52pm

re: #415 mich-again

If you would have borrowed from your 401k

Can you do that?

448 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:20:59pm

re: #419 jorline

WTF? Is Ohio the new Chicagoland?

1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS
'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

But "Troopergate" is so much worse. And hey, Palin was directly involved in that. And anyway Obama doesn't have any control over what his supporters do. Sure, he taught ACORN classes. But that was years ago. See? ACORN's already under the bus. That's not the ACORN he knew ...
/

449 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:20:59pm

The current banking/stock crisis is a double edged sword at this point.

If O loses the markets and life will return to a close approxamation of normalcy.

If O wins it is just that much more of my 401k the O can't get.
/looking for the bright side

450 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:21:33pm

all quiet here...no one or thing in sight...girlies all safe and soundly asleep..I did get ta see a falling star though..or mebbe it's a ufo..in either case, I'm gonna crack a fresh yeungling and put the new bobdylan cd on...

451 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:22:12pm

re: #447 Rancher

Can you do that?

Yes.
But your account does not 'appreciate' until you pay the money back (including interest). All funds that go to the account count as loan payments until the loan is paid off.

452 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:22:35pm

re: #438 Macker

Are you in TN?

Nope I am in Missouri

453 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:22:50pm

re: #442 alegrias

What about Hugo Chavez shutting down 115 McDonald's stores in rotten Venezuela today? For supposed "tax" reasons? Doesn't that sound Obama-like to you? Mafiosi, Chicago politicians' tactics, ACORN threatening lenders back in the day?

Yo quiero un Big Mac Attack--how about millions of angry Venezuelan fast food fans take down that fat slob Chavez?

Maybe he doesn't want to violate no two countries with a McD's go to war rule?

(already broken by Russian / Georgia)

454 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:22:50pm

re: #374 MandyManners

Let the race riots begin.

Weren't they supposed to wait till the Zero lost the election?

455 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:22:54pm

re: #449 Metal Man

The current banking/stock crisis is a double edged sword at this point.

If O loses the markets and life will return to a close approxamation of normalcy.

If O wins it is just that much more of my 401k the O can't get.
/looking for the bright side

If he wins and destroys things like we think he will it may mean a Rep takeover of Congress and possibly a WH populated by a Rep for the next 12 years.

456 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:23:21pm

re: #447 Rancher

Can you do that?

Only for medical emergencies or to put toward the purchase of a first home.

Don't borrow from your 401(k). For any other reasons, the tax consequences are large. Also, you've just pulled that money from the growth segment of your retirement plan.

Google "compound interest" and you'll understand why.

457 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:23:26pm

re: #448 Tigger2005

But "Troopergate" is so much worse. And hey, Palin was directly involved in that. And anyway Obama doesn't have any control over what his supporters do. Sure, he taught ACORN classes. But that was years ago. See? ACORN's already under the bus. That's not the ACORN he knew ...
/

I hear ya...the MSM will be all over Troopergate...Sarah Bush abuse of power...BAD Republicans!

458 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:23:33pm

thanks fer the back up noam..knew I could count on ya in a pinch or a pickle...(not that you know how ta get pickled)..heh

459 lobo91  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:23:34pm

re: #419 jorline

WTF? Is Ohio the new Chicagoland?

1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS
'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

No...Ohio is a battleground state. No question who's going to win Illinois.

460 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:24:33pm

re: #456 Noam Sayin'

Only for medical emergencies or to put toward the purchase of a first home.

Don't borrow from your 401(k). For any other reasons, the tax consequences are large. Also, you've just pulled that money from the growth segment of your retirement plan.

Google "compound interest" and you'll understand why.

I borrowed $1000 several years ago so I could properly bury my mother.
Otherwise, you're right.

461 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:25:01pm

OT:
gmsc said this yesterday....

What McCain really needs to do is to get the idea of Obama's inexperience and mysterious background across so that it becomes a meme.

I'd love to see a John McCain ad that goes something like this:

Who is Barack Obama? He was born in . . . well, that's a matter of current court dispute, so we have to refrain from talking about that.

As he grew, Obama was heavily influenced by his father's religious and philosophical views of . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

In his teenage years, Obama made many friends in line with his beliefs, such as . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He was able to attend college, and even graduated Harvard Law School, thanks largely to funding by . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After he graduated, he used his legal expertise to help out groups like . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He also married Michelle Obama, who has given speeches on Obama's proposed policies. The point we disagree on from her speeches . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After law school, he also made numerous more friends in line with his beliefs like . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He also joined several organizations whose philosophy was . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After that, he became a senator, announcing his candidacy for president after holding that office for 143 days.

So, there you have it - Obama was born, graduated from Harvard Law School, became a US Senator, and then ran for president. We could tell you more, but . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

462 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:25:06pm

re: #451 jwb7605

Kind of negates the whole purpose of a 401K, (deferred taxes on income).

Did you hear some are suggesting that tax deferment on retirement savings be abolished? Heard it on Rush.

463 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:25:25pm

I am so tired of nay sayers tonight! The PUMAs are right - we do eat our own.

464 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:25:26pm

re: #434 Tigger2005

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

Cigarettes? You don't say! I bet he got a few 40's out of the deal too. Cripes. How disgusting is this.

465 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:25:28pm

re: #189 jwb7605

I don't see the direct link that Ace eludes to. Dates?

look at the link now. Updated

466 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:25:28pm

This is great!

GOP.com's ACORN Tree

467 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:25:45pm

re: #445 RTLM

Chavez could be Obama's running mate.

I thought Robert Mugabe or Raila Odinga already held that position.

468 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:26:14pm

re: #466 gmsc

hey gmsc! I just quoted you!

469 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:26:22pm

re: #460 jwb7605

My regrets, jwb. I hope the tax man didn't ding you for that one.

470 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:26:24pm

re: #463 Intrepid

I am so tired of nay sayers tonight! The PUMAs are right - we do eat our own.

The PUMAs are going to have to drag us across the finish line.

471 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:26:26pm

re: #427 solomonpanting

Austrian far-right leader Joerg Haider died in a road accident Saturday, APA news agency reported quoting the police.

Wow.

Hm. Sounds like, well, something from a Jason Bourne novel.

Weird.

472 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:26:30pm

re: #456 Noam Sayin'

Only for medical emergencies or to put toward the purchase of a first home.

Don't borrow from your 401(k). For any other reasons, the tax consequences are large. Also, you've just pulled that money from the growth segment of your retirement plan.

Google "compound interest" and you'll understand why.

Plus not all companies allow it. At one layoff that I went through, we were told that all loaned money had to be paid back to the 401k or it would be considered a taxable distribution. I hadn't borrowed, so I was fine.

473 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:26:30pm

re: #459 lobo91

No...Ohio is a battleground state. No question who's going to win Illinois.

Ohio may be a battleground state, but not for long with the population doubling every five days...lol

474 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:27:00pm

re: #461 Wishing

OT:
gmsc said this yesterday....

What McCain really needs to do is to get the idea of Obama's inexperience and mysterious background across so that it becomes a meme.

I'd love to see a John McCain ad that goes something like this:

Who is Barack Obama? He was born in . . . well, that's a matter of current court dispute, so we have to refrain from talking about that.

As he grew, Obama was heavily influenced by his father's religious and philosophical views of . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

In his teenage years, Obama made many friends in line with his beliefs, such as . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He was able to attend college, and even graduated Harvard Law School, thanks largely to funding by . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After he graduated, he used his legal expertise to help out groups like . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He also married Michelle Obama, who has given speeches on Obama's proposed policies. The point we disagree on from her speeches . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After law school, he also made numerous more friends in line with his beliefs like . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He also joined several organizations whose philosophy was . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After that, he became a senator, announcing his candidacy for president after holding that office for 143 days.

So, there you have it - Obama was born, graduated from Harvard Law School, became a US Senator, and then ran for president. We could tell you more, but . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

Thanks for the repost! Have you heard the audio version at karradine.com?

475 yesandno  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:27:02pm

The past couple of weeks...economically and politically...haven't been half as much fun as a backed up toilet.

How did we get here?

476 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:27:13pm

re: #419 jorline

WTF? Is Ohio the new Chicagoland?

1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS
'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

No, it's not. The shooting hasn't started yet.

477 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:27:17pm

re: #463 Intrepid

I am so tired of nay sayers tonight! The PUMAs are right - we do eat our own.

Keep in mind though- the PUMAs are basically eating their own too.

478 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:27:22pm

re: #468 Wishing

hey gmsc! I just quoted you!

I saw that. I just responded.

479 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:27:55pm

re: #477 Sharmuta

Keep in mind though- the PUMAs are basically eating their own too.

Mmmmmm, chewey...
///////

480 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:05pm

re: #414 HDrepub

No, Top just made them clean off his window. Off duty drunkeness was looked upon with a wry smile back in those days.

I remember as a young soldier we had some parties that frankly I'm amazed we lived through. I partied one time over to the Navy Barracks when they acquired a brand new large metal trash can. We dropped a block of ice in there and proceeded to fill it with whatever anyone had. They poured in German beer, various wines, Rum 151, Jaegermeister, various whiskeys, vodka, various sodas, you get the idea. And I know a couple cans of grapefruit juice went in. Everyone contributed and ensured the can was full to the top.

It was truly horrible at first, but as the night went on, you kind of acquired a taste for it. I think we named it AhhhShit, because when that is what was said when you first drank it.

I remember the Naval commander and their Master Chief Petty Officer came in there Monday morning and we were all kind of just laying there, not moving much. The MCPO went over and sniffed the can, said Bullshit. He went over to the cupboard and pulled out the Tabasco Sauce, poured it all in there, tossed the bottle in there, called us a bunch of panty waisted rookies that we couldn't even mix a decent drink and they walked out.

Interesting times, indeed. ;-)>

481 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:11pm

re: #451 jwb7605

Yes.
But your account does not 'appreciate' until you pay the money back (including interest). All funds that go to the account count as loan payments until the loan is paid off.

Only the portion of your account that you borrowed is affected. So you are paying yourself the interest on the loan amount. Once you get to a point in your 401k that the loan is minor to the total not a bad deal IMHO for what it's worth.(or under current conditions the only investment that is still of value)

482 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:18pm

re: #463 Intrepid

we do eat our own.

I wish! Read in Maxim that's impossible but I'm still studying yoga.

483 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:21pm

re: #477 Sharmuta

Keep in mind though- the PUMAs are basically eating their own too.

They eat tennis shoes?

484 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:27pm

re: #471 Occasional Reader

Wow.

Hm. Sounds like, well, something from a Jason Bourne novel.

Weird.

Was he a friend? No. Are we all mortal? Yes.

485 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:41pm

re: #470 Sharmuta

The PUMAs are going to have to drag us across the finish line.

Maybe when we get across the finish line, we all will have a new-found respect for one another.

486 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:47pm

re: #464 mich-again

Cigarettes? You don't say! I bet he got a few 40's out of the deal too. Cripes. How disgusting is this.

Hey, mich...read my #419...it will make you sick.

487 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:28:51pm

re: #465 Yankee Division Son

look at the link now. Updated

This (in bright red) was added:

Don't Be Frontin': The Radical New Party Obama Was Once a Member of and Project Vote, Whom Obama Admits Working For, Share Same Office with... ACORN


The real question is how long has that been true?

488 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:30:57pm

re: #481 Metal Man

Only the portion of your account that you borrowed is affected. So you are paying yourself the interest on the loan amount. Once you get to a point in your 401k that the loan is minor to the total not a bad deal IMHO for what it's worth.(or under current conditions the only investment that is still of value)

That's not the way it worked in my case. But, that was 12 years ago.

489 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:31:03pm

re: #472 Kosh's Shadow

Plus not all companies allow it. At one layoff that I went through, we were told that all loaned money had to be paid back to the 401k or it would be considered a taxable distribution. I hadn't borrowed, so I was fine.

That's an IRS rule, if I'm not mistaken. The company can't maintain that loan within your 401(k) if you're not in their employ. If you leave, everything has to even up, I think. I'm no expert.

Borrowed from mine to buy my house, but a portion of that also makes interest, so my loan is like, 2% or something. I'm not sure, but right now I think I'm making more on that loan amount than I am in the rest of my balance - or should I say, not losing as much as the rest.

I've lost about 10k since July.

490 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:31:09pm

re: #443 Rancher

I was in the Marine Corps Reserve. First day of drill, Saturday, would find us doing our three mile run with that wonderful odor of beer sweat wafting from over 100 "reformed" alcoholics.

"Reformed" until Saturday night.

For sure. When I was a Platoon Sergeant, I used to take them on a health run on Monday morning. We would keep going until the smell of alcohol wouldn't get a bunny high running along side us. Depending how close to payday it was the run could go awhile.

491 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:31:48pm

re: #474 gmsc

Thanks for the repost! Have you heard the audio version at karradine.com?

Terrific!

492 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:31:53pm

re: #406 lifeofthemind

I dares you, I double triple dog dares you wussey

amended.

493 Infidel_One  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:31:53pm

re: #461 Wishing

OT:
gmsc said this yesterday....

What McCain really needs to do is to get the idea of Obama's inexperience and mysterious background across so that it becomes a meme.

I'd love to see a John McCain ad that goes something like this:

Who is Barack Obama? He was born in . . . well, that's a matter of current court dispute, so we have to refrain from talking about that.

As he grew, Obama was heavily influenced by his father's religious and philosophical views of . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

In his teenage years, Obama made many friends in line with his beliefs, such as . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He was able to attend college, and even graduated Harvard Law School, thanks largely to funding by . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After he graduated, he used his legal expertise to help out groups like . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He also married Michelle Obama, who has given speeches on Obama's proposed policies. The point we disagree on from her speeches . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After law school, he also made numerous more friends in line with his beliefs like . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

He also joined several organizations whose philosophy was . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

After that, he became a senator, announcing his candidacy for president after holding that office for 143 days.

So, there you have it - Obama was born, graduated from Harvard Law School, became a US Senator, and then ran for president. We could tell you more, but . . . well, the Obama campaign would prefer we didn't talk about that.

Send that idea to the link below....you never know.....
Your text to link...

494 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:32:16pm

re: #470 Sharmuta

The PUMAs are going to have to drag us across the finish line.

No shit, Sharm, because I've been battling all night against the chicken-littles here who were rattled by John McCain's statements today about how Barack Obama isn't to be feared, and by those who feel Sarah Palin's Troopergate situation is damning.

So stinking tired of conservatives being such pussies.

495 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:32:31pm

re: #476 Dark_Falcon

No, it's not. The shooting hasn't started yet.

That starts if "O" loses.

496 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:32:48pm

re: #455 Hard Right

That is the other possible bright side. I would hope that the lesson will have more than just 12 years but then again the bright side thing.

497 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:33:02pm

WTF? I just saw in the Spy that someone is trying to tell us ACORN has registered millions of new voters.

ACORN has said it's 1.5 million. Just 1.5.

Meanwhile, there are 5-7 million PUMAS. You guys and gals can do the math.

498 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:33:11pm

re: #494 Intrepid

No shit, Sharm, because I've been battling all night against the chicken-littles here who were rattled by John McCain's statements today about how Barack Obama isn't to be feared, and by those who feel Sarah Palin's Troopergate situation is damning.

So stinking tired of conservatives being such pussies.

We need Patton with a bionic arm. That would fix everything. ;)

499 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:33:51pm

if ya'll can stomach going to npr's website, they still have the new Dylan up free to listen..I highly recommend Huck's Tune,Girl From the Red River Shore,Marchin' to the City,Cocaine Blues,and Lonesome River..do yaself a favor....

500 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:33:54pm

re: #475 yesandno

The past couple of weeks...economically and politically...haven't been half as much fun as a backed up toilet.

How did we get here?

Not another creation/evolution thread! ;-)

501 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:34:00pm

re: #494 Intrepid

Sorry I missed the fun, Dear. Keep fighting the good fight. I got your back.

502 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:34:14pm

re: #496 Metal Man

That is the other possible bright side. I would hope that the lesson will have more than just 12 years but then again the bright side thing.

Same here. Hard to say tho. Sometimes the voters have short menories.

503 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:34:19pm
504 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:34:59pm

re: #485 Wishing

Maybe when we get across the finish line, we all will have a new-found respect for one another.

I'm going to get dinged-down for this, but I'd have voted for Hillary instead of several people the Republicans might have selected (my choices were Fred! and Duncan Hunter).
That would have included McCain with almost anybody except Sarah Palin.

Hillary is "dependable". I can tell you what she's going to do in almost any situation. She does NOT hate the country. She is one seriously ballsy b!tch.

505 stevieray  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:35:03pm

re: #427 solomonpanting

Austrian far-right leader Joerg Haider died in a road accident Saturday, APA news agency reported quoting the police.

Hmmm...

There are two major rightwing parties in Austria. They got about 30% of the vote combined, but the leaders of the two parties hated each other... and that was going to keep them from forming a formidable alliance.

Now that impediment is gone...

Hmmm...

506 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:35:18pm

re: #484 lifeofthemind

Was he a friend? No. Are we all mortal? Yes.

It's just the timing is rather interesting.

507 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:35:19pm

re: #495 jorline

That starts if "O" loses.

Unfortunately, that may happen in certain parts of the country whether he wins or loses, and I'm not parroting James "swamp thing" Carville.

508 formercorpsman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:36:02pm

re: #490 Outrider

I knew there were always 2 times a month I would be reducing Boxer's fractures on the weekends.

The 1st, & the 15th.

509 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:36:27pm

re: #493 Infidel_One

Send that idea to the link below....you never know.....
Your text to link...

Done!

510 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:36:38pm

re: #486 jorline

from your link there..

PAWNS IN 'FRAUD': Freddie Johnson, yesterday in Cleveland, and Lateala Goins told of filling out voter registrations multiple times in the ACORN scandal revealed by The Post yesterday.

"Lateala Goins" alright. As in goins to be in voting lines all day at inept-run democratic neighborhood precincts where she'll be lucky to vote 3 times.

511 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:36:42pm

re: #493 Infidel_One

Send that idea to the link below....you never know.....
Your text to link...

I sent it in for gmsc...was a great ad..hope they use it!

512 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:36:53pm

re: #427 solomonpanting

Austrian far-right leader Joerg Haider died in a road accident Saturday, APA news agency reported quoting the police.

He will be sorely missed......... by fjordman.

513 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:37:05pm

re: #480 Outrider

Interesting times, indeed. ;-)>

Indeed.

514 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:37:18pm

re: #487 jwb7605

The real question is how long has that been true?

ACORN Falls Close To Tree-----Eyebrows were raised last week by a fundraising invitation sent by the Friends Of Bill de Blasio. de Blasio, who managed Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign, held the December 7 event to fund his run for the 39th Councilmanic District seat.

The invitation listed the committee's address as 88 Third Avenue, which may be familiar to some as the address for the community group ACORN. The contact on the invitation was Kara Hood, an ACORN political organizer. One insider thought that the connection between the candidate and the community group was too tight, and could imply that ACORN's stance on community issues was politicized. "That's a little too close for comfort for me," he said.


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515 formercorpsman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:37:43pm

re: #504 jwb7605

Just remember, socialism has many shades.

516 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:37:46pm

re: #511 Wishing

I sent it in for gmsc...was a great ad..hope they use it!

Wishing and I really are two separate people. I know many of you are beginning to think otherwise. ;)

517 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:37:48pm

re: #512 Sharmuta

He will be sorely missed......... by fjordman.

I'm sure he'll plant a swastika in his honor.

518 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:37:54pm

re: #503 lifeofthemind

Damn, I love scratchy, old records.

And Ms. Horne was such a beauty back then.

519 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:38:06pm

re: #508 formercorpsman

I knew there were always 2 times a month I would be reducing Boxer's fractures on the weekends.

The 1st, & the 15th.

Well, you know how it gets. But after the knock down everyone usually kicks back a few more and forgets about it until next morning when the hand is all swollen up. lol

520 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:38:13pm

re: #507 Quad Mocha Matti

Unfortunately, that may happen in certain parts of the country whether he wins or loses, and I'm not parroting James "swamp thing" Carville.

Screw the election, if the Dow doesn't bottom out soon you may see it.

521 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:38:19pm

re: #501 Sharmuta

Sorry I missed the fun, Dear. Keep fighting the good fight. I got your back.

He/she did a good job.

522 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:38:26pm

re: #488 jwb7605

That's not the way it worked in my case. But, that was 12 years ago.

I've run a couple loans over the last 20 years and that is how they worked in our system. My company may not run a true 401k though. Eyes glaze over during quarterly meetings where they define this stuff. Pay attention only to how it affects me.

523 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:38:30pm

re: #501 Sharmuta

Sorry I missed the fun, Dear. Keep fighting the good fight. I got your back.

I was playing "TypicalWhitey" tonight, but I didn't have the links she does! Regardless, links wouldn't have worked since it was all about the statement John Mac made about "not being afraid of an Obama presidency". Yikes, folks went nuts over that.

Even when it was taken out of context.

(going off to get strength from PUMAs at HCF and PUMAPac)

524 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:38:54pm

re: #504 jwb7605

I'm going to get dinged-down for this, but I'd have voted for Hillary instead of several people the Republicans might have selected (my choices were Fred! and Duncan Hunter).
That would have included McCain with almost anybody except Sarah Palin.

Hillary is "dependable". I can tell you what she's going to do in almost any situation. She does NOT hate the country. She is one seriously ballsy b!tch.

My objection to Hillary is that I have met her and talked to people/USSS who have worked with her and technically speaking, she's nuts. Still she is not loyal to any foriegn ideology or antagonistic to America per se. Vote for her? No, Expect to survive when I'm not sure we will with Obama? Yes.

525 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:39:15pm

re: #510 mich-again

from your link there..

"Lateala Goins" alright. As in goins to be in voting lines all day at inept-run democratic neighborhood precincts where she'll be lucky to vote 3 times.

Could that remark be considered racist? Are you mocking Ebonics? Am I serious? No.

526 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:39:29pm

re: #510 mich-again

from your link there..

"Lateala Goins" alright. As in goins to be in voting lines all day at inept-run democratic neighborhood precincts where she'll be lucky to vote 3 times.

roflmao

527 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:39:53pm

re: #495 jorline

That starts if "O" loses.

Though in most places it won't go on for long. Thankfully, in most places we outgun Obama's base.

528 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:40:13pm

BTW, Whittle's posting again.

Looks like he has a lot going on, too.

529 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:40:23pm

re: #470 Sharmuta

The PUMAs are going to have to drag us across the finish line.

How's that for perspective.

/not this fiesty cajun

530 formercorpsman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:40:25pm

re: #519 Outrider

The club right at the entrance of New River, and the other place right outside the main gate of leJeune were good for sending guys back.

531 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:40:36pm

re: #504 jwb7605

I'm going to get dinged-down for this, but I'd have voted for Hillary instead of several people the Republicans might have selected (my choices were Fred! and Duncan Hunter).
That would have included McCain with almost anybody except Sarah Palin.

Hillary is "dependable". I can tell you what she's going to do in almost any situation. She does NOT hate the country. She is one seriously ballsy b!tch.

Well if my choices were Obama or Hillary, it would be Clinton hands down. She, at least, LIKES being an American. I think the O despises it.

532 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:40:58pm

re: #521 reine.de.tout

He/she did a good job.

Good evening, reine.

533 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:41:24pm

re: #526 jorline

And the headlines will read. Local woman denied of voting rights. 69 votes stolen by McCain.

534 alegrias  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:41:25pm

Anyone else read/see where Ayers' family got his wife Bernadette Dohrn a job at the law firm of (Sidley Austin?) where the terrorist woman met Michelle (future Michelle Obama) in 1988 or so? Fact check or corroborate me please.

Michelle Obama strikes me as someone too comfortable with outspoken, violent or virulently America haters, such as as the Ayers and that whole 1960s racial-based radicalism.

Remember those US athletes who raised their fists in a defiant salute on the victors' stands while the US national anthem played during the Mexico City Olympics in 1968?

Michelle & Obama's reluctance to show love or pride in America unless they're "getting" something for nothing reminds me of that time.

535 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:41:37pm

re: #498 Hard Right

We need Patton with a bionic arm. That would fix everything. ;)

How about Palin with Bionic Ankles?

Great pic from HC Forum...

536 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:41:39pm

re: #504 jwb7605

PS I did not down ding u!

537 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:41:42pm

re: #531 Wishing

Well if my choices were Obama or Hillary, it would be Clinton hands down. She, at least, LIKES being an American. I think the O despises it.

I doubt that about Hillary, but she is willing to fight at least.

538 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:42:18pm

re: #531 Wishing

Well if my choices were Obama or Hillary, it would be Clinton hands down. She, at least, LIKES being an American. I think the O despises it.

I coulda slept at night if hill got elected...not so much with this socialistfuck

539 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:42:21pm

re: #506 Occasional Reader

It's just the timing is rather interesting.

Never knew of a good time for getting romantic with a tree or whatever happened. Of course there could be a complicated plot or there could have been 3 teams about to kill him all within 1/4 mile of the accident scene and all sent be different interests who were preempted by fate. One never knows does one?

540 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:42:26pm

re: #527 Dark_Falcon

Though in most places it won't go on for long. Thankfully, in most places we outgun Obama's base.

Proud Texan...five guns and plenty of ammo close by.

541 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:42:27pm

re: #507 Quad Mocha Matti

Like when certain cities win a sports championship?

542 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:43:00pm

re: #535 Intrepid

How about Palin with Bionic Ankles?

Great pic from HC Forum...

More proof, if more were needed, that Todd Palin is a very lucky man.

543 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:43:13pm

re: #520 jorline

Screw the election, if the Dow doesn't bottom out soon you may see it.

You definitely have a point there. Of course it will just reported/portrayed that the evil capitalist swine shareholders/investors (no offense to Capitalist Piglet) are the ones at fault.

544 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:43:17pm

re: #516 gmsc

Wishing and I really are two separate people. I know many of you are beginning to think otherwise. ;)

We could make this messy gmsc lol
Stay on your side of the room.

545 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:43:18pm

re: #535 Intrepid

How about Palin with Bionic Ankles?

Great pic from HC Forum...

She does have nice gams. No, I'm not one of those who drool over her. Her beliefs on the other hand...

546 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:43:29pm

re: #523 Intrepid

I was playing "TypicalWhitey" tonight, but I didn't have the links she does! Regardless, links wouldn't have worked since it was all about the statement John Mac made about "not being afraid of an Obama presidency". Yikes, folks went nuts over that.

Even when it was taken out of context.

(going off to get strength from PUMAs at HCF and PUMAPac)


Why thanks intrepid!

547 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:43:35pm

re: #534 alegrias

It would be interesting to see Condi and Michelle debate.

548 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:43:59pm

re: #541 Rancher

Like when certain cities win a sports championship?

Yep, like Chicago when we win championships.

549 BignJames  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:44:07pm

re: #489 Noam Sayin'

That's an IRS rule, if I'm not mistaken. The company can't maintain that loan within your 401(k) if you're not in their employ. If you leave, everything has to even up, I think. I'm no expert.

Borrowed from mine to buy my house, but a portion of that also makes interest, so my loan is like, 2% or something. I'm not sure, but right now I think I'm making more on that loan amount than I am in the rest of my balance - or should I say, not losing as much as the rest.

I've lost about 10k since July.

Lost 70k since Jan. Won't be retiring next year.

550 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:44:10pm

re: #523 Intrepid

I looked at that thread.

I think it's real easy to play political arm chair quarterback, but it comes down to this- what the hell else was he supposed to say?! The msm isn't playing fair with us, so if he didn't say these things we might as well hang it up because the msm would paint him as a fear monger to angry hoards. It's like we're too emotional right now and no one is thinking. Really- what the hell else WAS he supposed to say? "Be very afraid?" Is that a good message for our candidate to spread? WTF?

Think people!

551 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:44:32pm

oh and re the Dylan..Dreamin' of You

552 Tigger2005  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:44:44pm

re: #475 yesandno

The past couple of weeks...economically and politically...haven't been half as much fun as a backed up toilet.

How did we get here?

But seriously, it's been decades in the making. The 1930's might be a good place to start ... socialism and communism first got a toehold here then. In the late 50's our media made a celebrity out of Fidel Castro. Then the media misreported Vietnam and inspired a generation of radicals who went on to get involved in academia and the entertainment industry. Meanwhile our growing prosperity gave birth to a growing sense of entitlement. Then came Johnson's "Great Society," building on Roosevelt's "New Deal" and vastly expanding the welfare state. And finally, the advent of politicial correctness, which made it unseemly to judge or criticize anyone for anything, unless of course they are white males of European descent or female Alaskan governors, then they are fair game.

553 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:45:19pm

re: #521 reine.de.tout

He/she did a good job.

She.

I am a woman who happens to be INTREPID!

554 lobo91  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:45:37pm

re: #534 alegrias

Anyone else read/see where Ayers' family got his wife Bernadette Bernadine Dohrn a job at the law firm of (Sidley Austin?) where the terrorist woman met Michelle (future Michelle Obama) in 1988 or so? Fact check or corroborate me please.

Yup. It's true. I believe she was there from 1984-88.

555 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:45:40pm

re: #515 formercorpsman

Just remember, socialism has many shades.

That's true.
That's why I like my socalism as predictable as possible.
The major difference between HRC and JM is abortion and several social issues like that. Hillary would not have repeated Bill's blunders as regards terrorism, and trying to re-create her original healthcare bill would have been a non-starter.

Given current economic conditions, SocializedNational Heathcare is also a non-starter. She would not pull troops from wherever prematurely. She actually has some street cred on foreign affairs.

I've heard McCain speak on several issues, and I know what his position actually was on several issues.
In midsummer "Drill Baby Drill" was not an option, and I still mistrust him on immigration.

556 Infidel_One  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:45:56pm

re: #511 Wishing

I sent it in for gmsc...was a great ad..hope they use it!

Cool....it is a great idea...cudos to you

557 alegrias  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:46:14pm

re: #490 Outrider

For sure. When I was a Platoon Sergeant, I used to take them on a health run on Monday morning. We would keep going until the smell of alcohol wouldn't get a bunny high running along side us. Depending how close to payday it was the run could go awhile.

* * *
Riding the Metro with folks who've been drinking is rough on the nose. Funny how booze metabolizes out your pores! Pepe Le Piew had nothhing on some drinking people.

558 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:46:20pm

re: #533 mich-again

And the headlines will read. Local woman denied of voting rights. 69 votes stolen by McCain.

LOL...too funny, but it's true.

Headlines
Ohio Woman Disenfranchised 69 Times...Moving to Florida where her votes count.

559 Florida Lady  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:46:51pm

re: #523 Intrepid

I was playing "TypicalWhitey" tonight, but I didn't have the links she does! Regardless, links wouldn't have worked since it was all about the statement John Mac made about "not being afraid of an Obama presidency". Yikes, folks went nuts over that.

Even when it was taken out of context.

(going off to get strength from PUMAs at HCF and PUMAPac)


I really must agree - those PUMAs are gutsy & unrelenting

560 ebb0ts  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:47:59pm

My wife calls BO "liver lips Louie" and says his ears are the size of his hands. She can't stand listening to him anymore. BO will say she is all about race. Everything is race race race. The country is afraid to say who they will vote for, it"s
a race thing. As he lies his way to November,BO must be thinking it is so cool to carry that race card. Use it anytime you cant remember your last lie. We are in a real mess here. There must be a light at the end of this dark tunnel....oops that sounds racist.

561 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:48:06pm

re: #543 Quad Mocha Matti

You definitely have a point there. Of course it will just reported/portrayed that the evil capitalist swine shareholders/investors (no offense to Capitalist Piglet) are the ones at fault.

They are at fault...aren't they?
//

562 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:48:16pm

oh and Tell Ol' Bill

563 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:48:22pm

re: #534 alegrias

40 years ago Northwestern Law would've faced decertification for employing Dohrn and Sidley Austin would have seen it's lawyers thrown out of courtrooms.

564 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:48:25pm

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...] Palin case

565 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:48:45pm

re: #504 jwb7605

I'm going to get dinged-down for this,


Done.

566 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:49:08pm

re: #544 Wishing

We could make this messy gmsc lol
Stay on your side of the room.

You got it!

567 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:49:29pm

What's shakin'.

568 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:49:30pm

re: #548 Dark_Falcon

I will avoid Chicago like the plague, (which we still have in NM), until well after the election.

569 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:50:15pm

re: #494 Intrepid

No shit, Sharm, because I've been battling all night against the chicken-littles here who were rattled by John McCain's statements today about how Barack Obama isn't to be feared, and by those who feel Sarah Palin's Troopergate situation is damning.

So stinking tired of conservatives being such pussies.

You can berate all you want, but as an acitve supporter and volunteer, I'll stand by my earlier criticism of his statement today.

570 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:50:38pm

re: #567 Cognito

What's shakin'.

Hey, Cog...how's it going?

/OK everyone, stop talking about the MSM...lol

571 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:50:53pm

re: #550 Sharmuta

I am now thinking the same thing, even though I do hope that deep down, he really does fear Obama in terms of how he'll eff up the country, even though he's not expressing it externally, and that he draws from that fear and displays some conducive fight before time's up

572 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:50:53pm

re: #567 Cognito

What's shakin'.

hey..I was thinking about ya earlier..I haven't been around much lately but was hopin' you survived the slings and arrows...

573 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:50:53pm

re: #558 jorline

Headlines
Ohio Woman Disenfranchised 69 Times...Moving to Florida where her votes count.

Headline. Ohio GOP buries woman in swinging chads.

574 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:50:56pm

re: #567 Cognito

What's shakin'.

575 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:50:56pm

re: #550 Sharmuta

I think it's real easy to play political arm chair quarterback, but it comes down to this- what the hell else was he supposed to say?!


See my #262.

576 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:51:23pm

re: #564 willowone

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...] Palin case

I only bothered with page 1

Introduction
Beginning in October 2007, Governor Sarah Palin and members of her administration repeatedly clashed with Department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, a member of her cabinet, over budgetary issues and department direction. On July 11, 2008, after multiple efforts to reach a consensus had failed, Governor Palin offered Mr. Monegan a new position as head of the Alaska Alcohol Control Board. Mr. Monegan declined the offer and was dismissed as a result.


That basically says "Move along. Nothing to see here".

577 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:51:38pm

re: #572 joecitizen

hey..I was thinking about ya earlier..I haven't been around much lately but was hopin' you survived the slings and arrows...

Cog's is bullet proof.

578 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:52:08pm

re: #572 joecitizen

hey..I was thinking about ya earlier..I haven't been around much lately but was hopin' you survived the slings and arrows...

His head is solid granite. It would take a sabot from a tank to penetrate it.

579 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:52:14pm

re: #549 BignJames

I won't be retiring for about 20-some years, so this big dump might actually help me catch up to where I should be with my 401. Sure, I've lost a lot, but I remain in a rather aggressive portfolio so I'm positioned to take advantage of the eventual up-swing.

Does anybody really think the Dow won't go back up?

This is America, people. We know nothing but UP.

580 JacksonTn  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:52:33pm

re: #551 joecitizen

oh and re the Dylan..Dreamin' of You


before I attempt to listen to dylan on that ........ can you actually understand him on this one?

581 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:52:44pm

re: #532 jorline

Good evening, reine.

Good evening!

Actually, just checking in before I go get some sleep.

582 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:52:45pm

re: #577 jorline

Cog's is bullet proof.

we need more of that on our side..

583 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:05pm

re: #573 mich-again

Headline. Ohio GOP buries woman in swinging hanging chads.


Fixt.

584 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:22pm

re: #546 Typicalwhitey

Why thanks intrepid!

Please, oh please, come on and kick ass! I tried two threads ago, but I think I failed. The minions were just so happy to go after the anti-Mac stuff.

You could do it, TW! You got the mojo, I think.

TAG, You're it!

585 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:27pm

re: #575 lifeofthemind

See my #262.

You don't think the msm would selectively edit that? Think Newt Gingrich.

586 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:35pm

re: #577 jorline

Cog's is bullet proof.


Is that "Cognito"?
I defended him on a couple of threads, because he was making sense.

587 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:39pm

re: #579 Noam Sayin'

I won't be retiring for about 20-some years, so this big dump might actually help me catch up to where I should be with my 401. Sure, I've lost a lot, but I remain in a rather aggressive portfolio so I'm positioned to take advantage of the eventual up-swing.

Does anybody really think the Dow won't go back up?

This is America, people. We know nothing but UP.

Aside from Barbra?

588 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:47pm

re: #581 reine.de.tout

Good evening!

Actually, just checking in before I go get some sleep.

Have a peaceful sleep reine...see you tomorrow.

589 alegrias  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:48pm

re: #521 reine.de.tout

He/she did a good job.

* * * *
Reine, here's a recipe for lizard green cucumber salad for you which Senator McCain's brother Joe liked: thin sliced peeled cucumber, thin sliced or diced onion, chopped parsley, vinaigrette of oil & vinegar, salt & pepper.

590 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:53:48pm

re: #579 Noam Sayin'

This is America, people. We know nothing but UP.

Ding Ding Ding Rotating Title nominee.

591 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:54:08pm

re: #582 joecitizen

we need more of that on our side..

amen

592 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:54:29pm

re: #572 joecitizen

was hopin' you survived the slings and arrows...

I collected the slings and arrows and used them to build a little fort.

593 USCMSNE  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:55:09pm

re: #564 willowone

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...] Palin case

What is this report? There is no author or crediting block. Is this the McCain campaign's response or part of the report released by "Gunny" French and company?

594 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:55:11pm

re: #592 Cognito

You can get a tax break on those arrows if they're 5/16"

595 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:55:15pm

re: #580 JacksonTn

before I attempt to listen to dylan on that ........ can you actually understand him on this one?


mebbe I'm not the cat to get into that with as I think he is the greatest rockandroll singer of 'em all but..you will be pleasantly surprised...listen to the ones I recommended,yer on yer own after that!

596 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:55:22pm

re: #590 lifeofthemind

Why, thank you.

597 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:55:23pm

Good night ladies.

598 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:55:34pm

re: #576 jwb7605
i'm on twelve, looks like a loooong read, but i decided i might need to know , so i can discuss with dopes if they don't accept the dishonorable
illegal and personally despicable acts the bil committed as a peace officer, and 2 that she had a right as governor to clean house.

599 Rancher  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:56:12pm

Been up for 24 hours, time to hit the sack.

Night Lizards!

600 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:56:33pm

re: #586 jwb7605

Is that "Cognito"?
I defended him on a couple of threads, because he was making sense.

I like Cog...he's indestructible, kind of like a Transformer.

601 faraway  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:56:37pm

Remember, Palin only violated an ethics rule but broke no laws.

602 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:57:10pm

re: #579 Noam Sayin'

I won't be retiring for about 20-some years, so this big dump might actually help me catch up to where I should be with my 401. Sure, I've lost a lot, but I remain in a rather aggressive portfolio so I'm positioned to take advantage of the eventual up-swing.

Does anybody really think the Dow won't go back up?

This is America, people. We know nothing but UP.

I lost 1/3 of my retirement in one day in the crash in the 80s. I gained it all back and a whole lot more and retired in 01/02/2000.

603 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:57:14pm

re: #598 willowone

i'm on twelve, looks like a loooong read, but i decided i might need to know , so i can discuss with dopes if they don't accept the dishonorable
illegal and personally despicable acts the bil committed as a peace officer, and 2 that she had a right as governor to clean house.

Nope. I think page 1 paragraph 1 pretty much covers it.
Anything past that, by definition, is opinion.

604 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:57:18pm

re: #601 faraway

Remember, Palin only violated an ethics rule but broke no laws.

According to those who want payback....

605 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:57:32pm

re: #568 Rancher

I will avoid Chicago like the plague, (which we still have in NM), until well after the election.

It's not that bad. Not where I live, anyway. Further, if the South Side riots, it'll drive a wedge between Daley and the black portions of his machine, as well as likely seeing a number of ACORN people being marched off to prison.

606 stuiec  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:57:51pm

re: #504 jwb7605

I'm going to get dinged-down for this, but I'd have voted for Hillary instead of several people the Republicans might have selected (my choices were Fred! and Duncan Hunter).
That would have included McCain with almost anybody except Sarah Palin.

Hillary is "dependable". I can tell you what she's going to do in almost any situation. She does NOT hate the country. She is one seriously ballsy b!tch.

The one dependable thing that Hillary will do in any given situation is whatever she thinks will gain her political advantage. She and Bill have that in common.

She would be a left-wing disaster as President, but less of one than Obama -- because Hillary understands that you have to coax America gradually to the left. She learned that the hard way with HillaryCare and with the 1994 backlash that put Congress in Republican hands for 12 years.

By contrast, Obama is far likelier to go hard, hard left all at once -- and he has the Democrat Congress with which to do it. Undoing the damage of his first two years in office will take a decade or more.

607 HDrepub  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:58:08pm

Nytol.

608 Macker  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:58:21pm

re: #587 Noam Sayin'

DANG! Now those are some huge ta-tas! Too bad she's a moonbat.

609 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:58:23pm

re: #592 Cognito

I collected the slings and arrows and used them to build a little fort.


from the bedsheets and table cloths we used as kids to slings and arrows..that works fer me...

610 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:58:26pm

re: #587 Noam Sayin'

I'm betting you are right but I've been throwing the 401k bones gambler style for awhile and it may be catching up with me.

611 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:58:51pm

re: #600 jorline

I like Cog...he's indestructible, kind of like a Transformer.

Cognito either pisses me of, bums me out, makes a lot of sense, or all three.
I hate it when the last part happens.

612 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:58:58pm

You know what Obama has that McCain does not?

Supporters.

True supporters that stick with him no matter what. Even with all of the bullshit he has spewed his supporters stick with him.

Contrast that with all of the Lizards today jumping off the McCain bandwagon the second the road gets a tiny bit bumpy. Unfuckingbelievable.

Way to have his back.

/disgusted

613 alegrias  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:59:22pm

re: #563 lifeofthemind

40 years ago Northwestern Law would've faced decertification for employing Dohrn and Sidley Austin would have seen it's lawyers thrown out of courtrooms.

* * *
Life, I don't know or think Ayers' wife was a lawyer/terrorist at the law firm where she met Michelle Obama. But how icky to have such a person working in your law firm, if you remembered what the Weather Underground bombed.

614 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:59:26pm

re: #601 faraway

Palin only violated an ethics rule

Rules were made to be broken. Ask Obamacorn.

615 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 8:59:29pm

re: #608 Macker

DANG! Now those are some huge ta-tas! Too bad she's a moonbat.

You're saying that as if you would consider having relations with her. Yikes.

616 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:00:05pm

re: #608 Macker

DANG! Now those are some huge ta-tas! Too bad she's a moonbat.

Besides her being insane her tatas point straight down. Apparently she uses them to find underground water sources.

617 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:00:09pm

re: #593 USCMSNE
I don't know my husband sent it to me.

618 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:00:21pm

re: #608 Macker

DANG! Now those are some huge ta-tas! Too bad she's a moonbat.

That photo looks shopped to me.

619 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:00:41pm

There are people here who think McCain wants to lose the election. I disagree.

I think it's they that want to lose this election. Some people should quit projecting.

620 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:01:26pm

re: #618 Dark_Falcon

That photo looks shopped to me.

Nope. Real deal. Saw it long before it wound up in the funnies.

621 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:01:35pm

re: #616 Hard Right

Besides her being insane her tatas point straight down. Apparently she uses them to find underground water sources.

Boob thread! Do they shake when she finds water?

622 lummox  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:01:43pm
623 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:02:05pm

re: #612 Racer X

You think it's off-limits to criticize your candidate when you think he's not always doing what it takes to win?

624 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:02:17pm

re: #619 Sharmuta

There are people here who think McCain wants to lose the election. I disagree.

I think it's they that want to lose this election. Some people should quit projecting.

Excellent, Sharmuta! I agree.

Everytime I hear that McCain's expected to lose, it just gives me that much more reason to get out and vote for McCain!

625 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:02:46pm

re: #621 jorline

Boob thread! Do they shake when she finds water?

They stick straight out. Not a pretty sight.

626 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:20pm

re: #620 Hard Right

Nope. Real deal. Saw it long before it wound up in the funnies.

I will take your word for it.

627 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:36pm

re: #622 lummox

Racist

I have that (33 RPM) album. Phenomenal satirist. Anybody else wants to try to be almost as good as Tom Lehrer.

628 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:39pm

re: #623 Cartman

You think it's off-limits to criticize your candidate when you think he's not always doing what it takes to win?

No - not at all. Criticize away. What I saw today was Lizards giving up.

I am embarrassed.

629 wright1  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:43pm

re: #550 Sharmuta

I looked at that thread.

I think it's real easy to play political arm chair quarterback, but it comes down to this- what the hell else was he supposed to say?! The msm isn't playing fair with us, so if he didn't say these things we might as well hang it up because the msm would paint him as a fear monger to angry hoards. It's like we're too emotional right now and no one is thinking. Really- what the hell else WAS he supposed to say? "Be very afraid?" Is that a good message for our candidate to spread? WTF?

Think people!

I again applaud your passion and tenacity but here, well, I do not agree; I think he (McCain) simply does not need to say anything to reduce the fervor and zeal that was starting to catch fire. He could say that we want to watch the rhetoric but there is no need for him to be complimenting BHO - he needs to understand that many of us find BHO to be despicable. My axe to grind is over this undermining of our troops and administration by backdooring communications with Iraqi leaders to benefit his candidacy. This is just one of a plethora of issues I have with this individual who I also am confident is at his heart, a Socialist.

So, in my view, BHO is abhorrent. It is ok to say that.

630 formercorpsman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:46pm

re: #615 TheMatrix31

Even Brolin being as left as he is, you know there are some days he probably just wants to slit his wrists.

631 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:48pm

Yeungling!

632 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:50pm

re: #621 jorline

Yes but only for bottled water.

633 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:50pm

re: #626 Dark_Falcon

I will take your word for it.

Wish I had never seen it. Gawd.

634 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:03:55pm

re: #584 Intrepid

Please, oh please, come on and kick ass! I tried two threads ago, but I think I failed. The minions were just so happy to go after the anti-Mac stuff.

You could do it, TW! You got the mojo, I think.

TAG, You're it!


Five Reasons Independents should choose McCain

635 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:04:05pm

re: #625 Hard Right

They stick straight out. Not a pretty sight.

*brain bleach*

636 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:04:20pm

re: #623 Cartman

I just think people aren't thinking McCain's comments today through. What was he supposed to say? "It's okay to be afraid and cling to racist ideas?"

637 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:04:22pm

re: #612 Racer X

Way to have his back.

I am voting for John McCain no question. I've pulled the GOP lever every single election since '84. I have no use for even one single Democrat in my Township, County, District, State, or Country. Ever. Scoundrels every one of them.

638 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:04:27pm

re: #621 jorline

Boob thread! Do they shake when she finds water?

Can she tie them in a knot? Can she tie them in a bow?

639 Florida Lady  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:04:59pm

re: #624 gmsc

Excellent, Sharmuta! I agree.

Everytime I hear that McCain's expected to lose, it just gives me that much more reason to get out and vote for McCain!

I really hope America still loves the underdog

640 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:05:08pm

re: #625 Hard Right

They stick straight out. Not a pretty sight.

Like this?

641 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:05:37pm

I increased my pretax contribution percentage in my 401(k) today. More than doubled it, actually. More shares to grow long-term. Buying opportunity.

642 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:05:49pm

re: #628 Racer X

No - not at all. Criticize away. What I saw today was Lizards giving up.

I am embarrassed.

Well, none of the ones I saw really giving up the ship have much stock in this blog, in terms of participation. I'd take what they have to say with a grain of salt.

643 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:05:51pm

re: #628 Racer X

No - not at all. Criticize away. What I saw today was Lizards giving up.

I am embarrassed.

Criticism is one thing. Rolling over and dying is another. Fight or get the f*** out of the way for those that will.

644 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:05:53pm

Was Heider's accident a hit?

645 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:06:09pm

re: #632 Metal Man

Yes but only for bottled water.

Not a pretty sight.

646 lifeofthemind  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:06:18pm

Did everyone see #227 on the last thread? Now I am off, nite.

647 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:06:54pm

re: #640 JCM

Like this?

Yup. Caused some to go blind too.

648 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:07:02pm

re: #636 Sharmuta

I just think people aren't thinking McCain's comments today through. What was he supposed to say? "It's okay to be afraid and cling to racist ideas?"

No, he should have said "Don't fear the election a black man, fear the election of a socialist."

649 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:07:05pm

re: #629 wright1

If the media was playing fair- perhaps. But they're not. Everything McCain says will be distorted. The base is going to vote for him, but the undecideds, who will see this video on the news cannot see our candidate encouraging race based fear mongering.

650 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:07:41pm

re: #543 Quad Mocha Matti

You definitely have a point there. Of course it will just reported/portrayed that the evil capitalist swine shareholders/investors (no offense to Capitalist Piglet) are the ones at fault.

None taken!

P.S. You forgot to say "running dogs".

651 little boomer  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:07:45pm

Dice K delivers!

652 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:15pm

re: #648 Dark_Falcon

No, he should have said "Don't fear the election a black man, fear the election of a socialist."

How many campaigns have you run?

653 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:15pm

re: #638 gmsc

Can she tie them in a knot? Can she tie them in a bow?

We need buzz to finish this one.

654 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:21pm

We need a FUNNY icon, along with + and -
Some stuff i up-ding because it makes me giggle...some i up-ding because i agree with the statement.

655 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:29pm

re: #646 lifeofthemind

Did everyone see #227 on the last thread? Now I am off, nite.

Moby.....

656 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:29pm

re: #579 Noam Sayin'

I won't be retiring for about 20-some years, so this big dump might actually help me catch up to where I should be with my 401. Sure, I've lost a lot, but I remain in a rather aggressive portfolio so I'm positioned to take advantage of the eventual up-swing.

Does anybody really think the Dow won't go back up?

Of course it will.

5.25% up average over the last 30 years.
If you want long term - that is a good number to use.

Short term - take the loss as a tax deduction and start over. Taxes will be higher no matter who wins.


This is America, people. We know nothing but UP.

657 pink freud  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:29pm

re: #644 MandyManners

Was Heider's accident a hit?

Charles Heider? What's the story?

658 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:34pm

The public needs to know!
Did Barbara Streisand have nightmares having to sleep with W for the past 2 years while stone filmed his movie:(

659 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:08:49pm

re: #639 Florida Lady

I really hope America still loves the underdog

I'm a big supporter of underdogs who are heroes!

(Obama announced today that he has no direct relationship with Simon Bar Sinister. Apparently Bar Sinister is just a guy who lives in Obama's neighborhood whom Obama understood had been rehabilitated.)

660 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:10pm

re: #608 Macker

DANG! Now those are some huge ta-tas! Too bad she's a no-talent hack moonbat.

Just my opinion

661 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:11pm

re: #640 JCM

Like this?

I see her point, JCM.

662 alegrias  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:16pm

Some People who are down need the perfect cheer: Go see "An AMERICAN Carol" with friends this weekend and talk up our ticket.

663 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:34pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

How many campaigns have you run?

None, it is simply my opinion.

664 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:36pm

re: #593 USCMSNE

665 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:37pm

re: #636 Sharmuta

I just think people aren't thinking McCain's comments today through. What was he supposed to say? "It's okay to be afraid and cling to racist ideas?"

My beef is the wording he used to address the situation at hand. Words have meaning, especially when the opposition gets hold of them.

666 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:51pm

re: #638 gmsc

Can she tie them in a knot? Can she tie them in a bow?

Can she swing them to and fro?

667 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:09:58pm

Hmmmm

Snip:

Speaking to a group of young Catholics in New York almost one month before Election Day, I had a harsh awakening as jarring as a shot of Wild Turkey 101. Weeks before going to the polling booth, Americans do not know Barack Obama.

In a packed bar, I was discussing the contentious question of whether a Catholic can support Obama for president. I highlighted the priority that defending innocent human lives takes in these considerations, according to the Church. I then went through Obama's radical record on abortion. The jolt came after I finished speaking, when one by one, people told me they had no idea Obama was so radical.

They were shocked. And so was I.

668 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:10:02pm

re: #636 Sharmuta

I just think people aren't thinking McCain's comments today through. What was he supposed to say? "It's okay to be afraid and cling to racist ideas?"

You think I'm wrong Dark Falcon? Think it would be okay for McCain to allow a message like this to be spread by the msm? Think it's okay to hand the left and msm that kind of rope- because that's what it would be.

669 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:10:19pm

re: #661 jorline

I see her point, JCM.

You can lose an eye doing that!
Careful!

670 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:10:25pm

re: #662 alegrias

Some People who are down need the perfect cheer: Go see "An AMERICAN Carol" with friends this weekend and talk up our ticket.

Funny movie. I'd never earn that merit badge the girlscout did. :)

671 willowone  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:10:26pm

he said it is off a site a called a noquarter?

672 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:10:58pm

re: #665 Cartman

My beef is the wording he used to address the situation at hand. Words have meaning, especially when the opposition gets hold of them.

Anything he says can and will be used against him by the court of the msm.

So what should he have said?

673 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:02pm

re: #647 Hard Right

Yup. Caused some to go blind too.

Like running with a sharp stick.

674 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:15pm

re: #636 Sharmuta

I just think people aren't thinking McCain's comments today through. What was he supposed to say? "It's okay to be afraid and cling to racist ideas?"

You know, Sharmuta, he didn't have to say anything. Nada. Zip. Zero.

I was appalled at his lack of understanding what this campaign is all about and what is at stake. This is not some collegial senate discussion. Who the hell is he trying to impress with his politeness or idiotic sense of fair play against a corrupt and evil political machine? And who the hell is he to lecture his supporters like they were children? It means he's seriously out of touch with the reality of this campaign and doesn't know how to play the game. Obama's camp must be laughing their asses off. I'm stunned and horrified.

675 alegrias  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:15pm

re: #641 Catttt

I increased my pretax contribution percentage in my 401(k) today. More than doubled it, actually. More shares to grow long-term. Buying opportunity.

* * *
Atta Cattt! Way to go. Up up with America.

676 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:15pm

re: #630 formercorpsman

Even Brolin being as left as he is, you know there are some days he probably just wants to slit his wrists.

I'm thinking that waking up in the morning has to be a real drag for that guy. Imagine rolling over and the first thing you see is Streisand sans makeup - then hearing that speaking voice.

Just. Kill. Me. Now.

677 jwb7605  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:17pm

I'm outta here! Night All!

678 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:28pm
679 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:36pm

re: #640 JCM

Like this?

so THATS where the tin-foil hats went!

680 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:38pm

re: #472 Kosh's Shadow

Plus not all companies allow it. At one layoff that I went through, we were told that all loaned money had to be paid back to the 401k or it would be considered a taxable distribution. I hadn't borrowed, so I was fine.

I borrowed about 20K from my 401k back in early 2000 for part of the down payment on my house (not my first house). 10-year term, ~10.5% interest. Paid it off in about 4 years. Not having that money in the market 2000-2004 wasn't such a bad thing. I think the "paying it back if you leave the employer" is an IRS rule.

681 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:40pm

What's an internal poll?

682 Arby Dwiar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:11:47pm

So - if Carter gave us Reagan, who will Obama give us?

683 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:01pm

re: #666 JCM

Can she swing them to and fro?

Can she throw them over her shoulder like a continental soldier?

Do her boobs hang low.

684 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:04pm

re: #673 jorline

Like running with a sharp stick.

In this case it was just the sight of her finding water. I'd never vomitted blood until that point.

685 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:29pm

re: #612 Racer X

You know what Obama has that McCain does not?

Supporters.

True supporters that stick with him no matter what. Even with all of the bullshit he has spewed his supporters stick with him.

Contrast that with all of the Lizards today jumping off the McCain bandwagon the second the road gets a tiny bit bumpy. Unfuckingbelievable.

Way to have his back.

/disgusted

Racer X - this is what the PUMAs are talking about! We stick with our man when times are good, but when the least little slip up comes, we HATE him! This will not win us the election.

Conservatives are so stuck on looking for a Reagan reincarnation that they cannot accept anything less!

FACE IT, FOLKS! THERE IS NO OTHER REAGAN OUT THERE!

We have the nominee we have. And he is a war hero, a former POW, a long-term senator with a history of doing what it takes to get things done.

RONALD REAGAN IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND! Get over it. Maybe, in 8 years, Sarah Palin will be ready to pick up that mantle. But only if McCain is elected!

686 Reno911  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:39pm

re: #612 Racer X

You know what Obama has that McCain does not?

Supporters.

True supporters that stick with him no matter what. Even with all of the bullshit he has spewed his supporters stick with him.

Contrast that with all of the Lizards today jumping off the McCain bandwagon the second the road gets a tiny bit bumpy. Unfuckingbelievable.

Way to have his back.

/disgusted

In your zeal to chastise fellow Lizards...you stumbled on the difference between Obama supporters and Lizards. Lizards are critical thinkers. Google it.

True supporters that stick with him no matter what

If that's not he definition of a kool-aid drinker, I don't know what is.

I was never a McCain supporter. I will hold my nose and vote for him, but I am not hopeful he will govern (if elected) as a conservative.

687 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:12:45pm

re: #668 Sharmuta

You think I'm wrong Dark Falcon? Think it would be okay for McCain to allow a message like this to be spread by the msm? Think it's okay to hand the left and msm that kind of rope- because that's what it would be.

No, sir. I simply think he could have handled it better. He should absolutely make clear that racism he no place in his campaign. He did not fail badly, and he did prevent what could have been a deathblow.

688 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:23pm

re: #657 pink freud

Charles Heider? What's the story?

Joreg Heider, a far-right politician in Austria.

689 Quad Mocha Matti  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:27pm

G'nite Lizards - this insignificant noob hatchling's gotta lay off the LGF crack for a while.

690 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:39pm

re: #685 Intrepid

Racer X - this is what the PUMAs are talking about! We stick with our man when times are good, but when the least little slip up comes, we HATE him! This will not win us the election.

Conservatives are so stuck on looking for a Reagan reincarnation that they cannot accept anything less!

FACE IT, FOLKS! THERE IS NO OTHER REAGAN OUT THERE!

We have the nominee we have. And he is a war hero, a former POW, a long-term senator with a history of doing what it takes to get things done.

RONALD REAGAN IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND! Get over it. Maybe, in 8 years, Sarah Palin will be ready to pick up that mantle. But only if McCain is elected!

Palin isn't that far off. Come hell or high water I'm voting McCain.

691 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:13:56pm

re: #655 JCM

Moby.....

Three days...three post...hate to see the other two.

692 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:05pm

re: #672 Sharmuta

Anything he says can and will be used against him by the court of the msm.

So what should he have said?

I'll admit, I'm not completely sure, but to imply that an Obama presidency is nothing to fear would not have been my first choice.

693 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:10pm

re: #691 jorline

Three days...three post...hate to see the other two.

#296 of the last thread was a meatball pitch over the center of the plate. Parked it. :)

694 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:27pm

re: #623 Cartman

You think it's off-limits to criticize your candidate when you think he's not always doing what it takes to win?

There is a difference between honest criticism and the remarks that have been reflected the last few days.

But, I have always found it strange how everyone "knows" exactly what it takes to win and if the candidate would just do what this given person wanted the election would be his/hers.

I've seen the same thing with average people second guessing Generals in how they would have run a battle and won. Or coached a ball team and won.

But then, that thread was overrun with a whole bunch of people with under 300 posts. Many with under 50.

695 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:15:42pm

re: #674 Irene NYC

I'm stunned and horrified.

Good for you!

Personally- I'm shocked that there are Lizards who think McCain should have made comments to be used against him by the left and msm as fear mongering and racist.

Isn't that what the euro-fascists are doing with their electorate? And you want McCain to emulate that?

696 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:00pm

re: #682 Arby Dwiar

So - if Carter gave us Reagan, who will Obama give us?

Palin

697 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:05pm
698 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:07pm

re: #679 Wishing

so THATS where the tin-foil hats went!

Tin-foil hats for coneheads.

699 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:16:40pm

Note to self: Don't link a pic of Barbra's nasty yabos on a FNDT.

700 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:06pm

re: #534 alegrias

Remember those US athletes who raised their fists in a defiant salute on the victors' stands while the US national anthem played during the Mexico City Olympics in 1968?

Michelle & Obama's reluctance to show love or pride in America unless they're "getting" something for nothing reminds me of that time.

Added a link for those who might not remember. John Carlos and Tommie Smith.

701 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:28pm

re: #697 ploome hineni

hit.

702 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:48pm

I'll vote McCain (actually already have absentee) But let me whine just a little about the stuff he does that pisses me off. I've wrote glowing stuff too like when he picked Palin.

703 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:17:54pm

Hey all y'all - sorry to be so late again! What have I missed on this thread?!?

704 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:16pm

re: #679 Wishing

so THATS where the tin-foil hats went!

She wasn't smart enough to understnd they went on her head.

705 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:27pm

re: #703 realwest

Hey all y'all - sorry to be so late again! What have I missed on this thread?!?

706 BignJames  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:38pm

re: #579 Noam Sayin'

I won't be retiring for about 20-some years, so this big dump might actually help me catch up to where I should be with my 401. Sure, I've lost a lot, but I remain in a rather aggressive portfolio so I'm positioned to take advantage of the eventual up-swing.

Does anybody really think the Dow won't go back up?

This is America, people. We know nothing but UP.

Well, I could take the rest out and pay 35-40% taxes + 10% penalty....and what?...put it under the mattress?

707 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:39pm

re: #678 ploome hineni

bad

You've got to follow through.....
Skip the intro, and answer the questions...

708 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:18:40pm

re: #687 Dark_Falcon

First- I'm no "sir".

Second- he was on the spot. I doubt any Lizard could have done much better and not made political hay for their enemies.

709 USCMSNE  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:10pm

re: #682 Arby Dwiar

So - if Carter gave us Reagan, who will Obama give us?

Palin

710 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:32pm

re: #703 realwest

Hey all y'all - sorry to be so late again! What have I missed on this thread?!?

Real!
*slap on the back*

Watcha drinkin', it's on me!

711 DeKalb  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:33pm

Can someone please tell me the name of the islamic concept that allows them to lie to non-muslims? I ask because the college where I teach is hosting some islamic "scholar" to talk about islam as a divinely inspired religion and system of justice, and I want to put a question about this to the "scholar."

712 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:19:38pm

So tell me fellow Lizards. Please help me out with this.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are really cheap now and so is AIG.

Why would I not want to buy them at this point?

713 Arby Dwiar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:01pm

re: #696 Wishing

Precisely! Whatever it takes, I'll be there.

Batten down the hatches - it's going to be a wild ride...

714 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:05pm

re: #665 Cartman

My beef is the wording he used to address the situation at hand. Words have meaning, especially when the opposition gets hold of them.

And when a snip is used? Anything can be used if so chosen. But, point taken.

715 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:20pm

re: #693 Hard Right

#296 of the last thread was a meatball pitch over the center of the plate. Parked it. :)

Looks like he's on a roll...lol

btw...nice hit, fastball right down the middle.

716 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:33pm

re: #697 ploome hineni

/Nelson laugh

717 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:51pm

re: #703 realwest

Hi Realwest. What up Bro.

718 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:52pm

re: #692 Cartman

I'll admit, I'm not completely sure, but to imply that an Obama presidency is nothing to fear would not have been my first choice.

I suppose the best answer would have been, "There is nothing to fear because Sarah and I are going to win".

However- the msm is actively trying to paint us as racists. I can't fault McCain for trying to deal with that.

719 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:20:52pm

re: #666 JCM

Can she swing them to and fro?

starting to sound like Dr Suess

720 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:22pm

re: #697 ploome hineni

veered off the road for unknown reasons.

Was he helped off the road?

721 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:28pm

re: #712 Syrah

Buy a house instead.

722 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:34pm

re: #705 Bobibutu
WOOT! Thank you Bobibutu! What a group of musicians - 2 out of my 3 favorite living rock guitarists and Sting!
Thanks.

723 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:53pm

re: #719 Outrider

starting to sound like Dr Suess


Dr. Suess wrote about tits? Who knew?

724 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:21:59pm

re: #708 Sharmuta

First- I'm no "sir".

My apologies.

725 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:24pm

re: #724 Dark_Falcon

I really thought the avatar would help with that.

726 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:25pm

re: #690 Hard Right

The only Ronald Reagan is Ronald Reagan. I prefer my Presidents/Vice Presidents to be their own people, not people that a bunch of old, somehow-still-influential radicals molded for their own purpose.

/if you know what I mean. [=

727 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:35pm

re: #711 DeKalb

Can someone please tell me the name of the islamic concept that allows them to lie to non-muslims? I ask because the college where I teach is hosting some islamic "scholar" to talk about islam as a divinely inspired religion and system of justice, and I want to put a question about this to the "scholar."

I think it is called Taqiyah

728 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:51pm

re: #722 realwest

WOOT! Thank you Bobibutu! What a group of musicians - 2 out of my 3 favorite living rock guitarists and Sting!
Thanks.

We find one once in a while - whoot!

729 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:54pm

re: #723 joecitizen

Dr. Suess wrote about tits? Who knew?

Horten sees hooters.

730 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:22:57pm

re: #711 DeKalb

Can someone please tell me the name of the islamic concept that allows them to lie to non-muslims?

Taqqila? Tequila? Taqilla? something like that.

731 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:23:23pm

re: #715 jorline

Looks like he's on a roll...lol

btw...nice hit, fastball right down the middle.

Just farted out another post too. Just spewing the usual koslim attacks on Palin. Apparently it thinks we are as stupid as the average koslim.

733 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:23:31pm

re: #703 realwest

Hey all y'all - sorry to be so late again! What have I missed on this thread?!?

RW

saggy boobs, tin-foil hats and the Red Socks.

734 rawmuse  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:23:59pm

re: #711 DeKalb

Can someone please tell me the name of the islamic concept that allows them to lie to non-muslims? I ask because the college where I teach is hosting some islamic "scholar" to talk about islam as a divinely inspired religion and system of justice, and I want to put a question about this to the "scholar."

Taqiya

735 little boomer  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:07pm

Taqiyah it is.

736 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:10pm

re: #733 jorline

RW

saggy boobs, tin-foil hats and the Red Socks.

GO RED SOX!

737 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:20pm

re: #733 jorline

RW

saggy boobs, tin-foil hats and the Red Socks.

Now I know it's time for bed...lol

PIMF Red Sox

738 wee fury  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:23pm

I get irritated with the 'talking heads' and the 'spinmeisters'. They all have their opinion on how the campaigns should be run.
For my part -- I figure McCain has been a Senator for a long time. He has made a run for President before and he knows how the MSM twists/crops/embellishes on spoken words. When he wins the Presidency . . . I will just be here smiling gently to myself.

739 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:26pm

re: #725 Sharmuta

I really thought the avatar would help with that.

Sorry, I didn't look closely at it until just now. [nearsighted] Again, I am sorry.

740 logboy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:24:41pm

I'm not sure if this has been covered or not, so someone tell me if it has. Experts are saying Obama didn't write his book "Dreams From My Father". For one, up until the point the book was published he had written and published next to nothing. What he had written would barely receive a passing grade in a college freshman writing class, let alone live up to the caliber of "Dreams of My Father". Secondly, he had to have major editorial help, up to and including a ghostwriter. The interesting part is who some say the ghost writer is, or at least, could be. Read the whole story here. I just heard it on talk radio, so apparently its getting around.

741 Inquisitive  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:37pm

re: #220 MandyManners

Why is it called "manhood"?


Thanks Mandy for the great question....something ....Inquisitve Minds just want to know.......and Thanks even more for the great laugh.

742 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:25:54pm
743 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:08pm

re: #740 logboy

I'm not sure if this has been covered or not, so someone tell me if it has. Experts are saying Obama didn't write his book "Dreams From My Father". For one, up until the point the book was published he had written and published next to nothing. What he had written would barely receive a passing grade in a college freshman writing class, let alone live up to the caliber of "Dreams of My Father". Secondly, he had to have major editorial help, up to and including a ghostwriter. The interesting part is who some say the ghost writer is, or at least, could be. Read the whole story here. I just heard it on talk radio, so apparently its getting around.

The Ayers theory is advancing with some solid research.

744 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:08pm

re: #711 DeKalb

Here are some references direct from the literature:
[Link: www.allaahuakbar.net...]

745 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:13pm

re: #722 realwest

WOOT! Thank you Bobibutu! What a group of musicians - 2 out of my 3 favorite living rock guitarists and Sting!
Thanks.

Enjoy.

746 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:37pm

re: #721 mich-again

Buy a house instead.

Have one. Nice little house on a hill three blocks from the waters edge.

Paradise.

I also have an interest in a large waterfront home. We are having a little trouble renting it out at the moment.

My real estate investments are the best things on my books at the moment.

I am looking for reasons why I should not look at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and AIG as bargains to be picked up at their bottom. I figure their must be a good rock solid reason, I just don't know what it is yet.

747 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:26:49pm

re: #718 Sharmuta


However- the msm is actively trying to paint us as racists. I can't fault McCain for trying to deal with that.

Well, they've already done that, for all intents and purposes, but I am not in disagreement with you - McCain had to do something. Frankly, I sort of wish he had gone down and bitch-slapped that plant that made the ignorant proclamation, but I fully understand that was out of the question. ;)

748 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:02pm

re: #712 Syrah Well I'm a looong way from a financial genius, but I'd say buy FannieMae Bonds - still yeilding close to 6% a year, and the bondholders get their principal and interest before anyone else - preferred shareholders, common stock shareholders, the US government just backed them formally and right now the Chinese hold almost 50% of the bonds - if for any reason the US didn't pay the bondholders, I'm assured by 3 wood that the whole world economic system would collapse.
Put it another way: my mom doesn't have very much money at all, her investment advisor said Fannie Mae and when her investment advisor's firm was bought out her investment advisor put ALL of her booty from said buy out into Fanniemae Bonds!

749 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:17pm

re: #742 ploome hineni

takia, the hidden secret of islam

the spelling of takkiachanges

and if you are not a scholar it is sometimes not worth getting into it with mulsims

they will deny or some say takkiya is paractised mainly by shia and not sunni

email Daniel Pipes or forhelp,he may get backtoyou

to deny it would truly be taquiya..

750 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:33pm

re: #738 wee fury

I get irritated with the 'talking heads' and the 'spinmeisters'.

Better you should listen to Talking Heads and drink Budweisers.

751 Price_of_Peace  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:37pm

re: #190 Quad Mocha Matti

More signs of the exponentially expanding psychological disorder (aka mental illness, aka liberalism, aka the cult of obamessiah), as covered by David Boze, a conservative radio host from 770 KTTH in Seattle:

The Perfect Gift for Children Who Need to Learn to Worship Obama

and this one: Seattle's Kid Zombies for Obama, Obama the "Messiah", AND Will YOUR kids learn to report YOU?

One listener to Dave's program called in to suggest that there be a "Pit Bulls for Palin" event at Green Lake park in Seattle, concurrent with the obamaton love-fest. It would be quite a sight, I'm sure!

All my children are grown and conservative. My oldest sometimes seems just to the right of Ghengis Khan. They would "go to the hills" before accepting a socialist state. Me too!

752 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:27:54pm

"Holding your nose and pulling the lever" for McCain will not keep Obama out of the White House.

People must be told about who Obama really is, and why he must not be elected. McCain needs more volunteers in key states to help get the message out.

The past week or two have been disastrous for America, and the rest of the world, economically. Expect more of that shit if Obama comes to power. This is how Socialism starts.

753 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:13pm

re: #731 Hard Right

Just farted out another post too. Just spewing the usual koslim attacks on Palin. Apparently it thinks we are as stupid as the average koslim.

Saw it and replied. Mobys love to post on dead threads.

754 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:25pm

re: #717 mich-again
Hey my friend, I'm up - and it's getting toward my bedtime! LOL!
How are you doing?

755 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:35pm

re: #674 Irene NYC

You know, Sharmuta, he didn't have to say anything. Nada. Zip. Zero.

I was appalled at his lack of understanding what this campaign is all about and what is at stake. This is not some collegial senate discussion. Who the hell is he trying to impress with his politeness or idiotic sense of fair play against a corrupt and evil political machine? And who the hell is he to lecture his supporters like they were children? It means he's seriously out of touch with the reality of this campaign and doesn't know how to play the game. Obama's camp must be laughing their asses off. I'm stunned and horrified.

So you're going to bad mouth him? Give his political opponents fodder for their ads?

Yeah, he could have given a better answer. But when Obama sucked his way through the whole "breath-alizer/inhalizer" thing, his supporters never put him down, no matter how ridiculous it was.

Yet here we are, tearing John McCain down for making what is arguably a "country first" answer.

He may not have torn into Obama like you'd wanted him to, but he made a statement that was honorable, and presidential.

And if he loses the election because of it? Then I'm on his side. I don't want to be a part of a slimy, win at all cost group.

I'll still be a proud American if Obama is my president. And I won't have lost my self respect.

756 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:28:58pm
757 rawmuse  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:01pm

re: #740 logboy

At this point I don't think it matters. Obama could drop trou and take a dump in the lobby of the Four Seasons and still get elected.

758 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:05pm

I know why he did it. I had an idea why he did it before I even knew what the questioner had said - I said to a friend, "Well, what question was he asked? I'll bet it was pretty bad."

Having said that, I think what's troubling is that he couldn't find a way to do this without lying to his own supporters about Obama. And if he wasn't lying - if he truly believes that an Obama presidency is nothing to fear and that Obama is a decent man - then at least some of us who believe otherwise feel a little bit like fools tonight, because up until now we thought we were all fighting for the same thing, for the same reasons.

Not trying to argue with anybody...just trying to articulate why this is so depressing.

I wouldn't miss the chance to vote against Obama, in any case. When things get bad under total Democrat control of the U.S.A., I don't want that sitting-out-the-election "blood" on my hands.

759 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:07pm

re: #748 realwest

Well I'm a looong way from a financial genius, but I'd say buy FannieMae Bonds - still yeilding close to 6% a year, and the bondholders get their principal and interest before anyone else - preferred shareholders, common stock shareholders, the US government just backed them formally and right now the Chinese hold almost 50% of the bonds - if for any reason the US didn't pay the bondholders, I'm assured by 3 wood that the whole world economic system would collapse.
Put it another way: my mom doesn't have very much money at all, her investment advisor said Fannie Mae and when her investment advisor's firm was bought out her investment advisor put ALL of her booty from said buy out into Fanniemae Bonds!

Thanks. That is a good starting place. Thank you.

760 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:30pm

re: #736 Wishing

GO RED SOX!

Good game, but they should have scored more in the 8th.

761 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:34pm

re: #710 JCM
Hey jcm, why that's right thoughty of ya! I'll have a sasparella - what's the occasion for your buying a round?!?

762 Killian Bundy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:37pm
763 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:39pm

re: #755 Intrepid

And if he loses the election because of it? Then I'm on his side. I don't want to be a part of a slimy, win at all cost group.

I'll still be a proud American if Obama is my president. And I won't have lost my self respect.

Viva la resistance!

/you've got stronger convictions than me, I'll admit...

764 wee fury  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:29:51pm

re: #750 mich-again

LOL

765 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:16pm

I wonder if McCain's recent softness is some kind of ploy.
Ahh, forget it. Just have some cheesecake!

766 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:26pm

Is it just me, or did Jan startle Sam?

767 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:50pm

re: #750 mich-again

Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

/got a Pepsi right now, but it'll do q:

768 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:51pm

What's an internal poll?

769 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:30:58pm

re: #753 jorline

Saw it and replied. Mobys love to post on dead threads.

That's the only way they can avoid being proven wrong by the lizard hordes. Cowardly? That's the left for you.

770 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:03pm

re: #732 Ojoe

The lights of LA seen through fog, from the top of Mt. Wilson. Towercam, Pacific time zone.


Good Night All.

Great image.

Suggestive of a lake of fire.

771 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:05pm

re: #740 logboy

I heard Cashill on the radio tonight, too, and I've read what he's written about this. What he offers is very compelling.

Obama's poetry is ghastly. At least he seems self-aware about that much.

772 Killian Bundy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:24pm

re: #699 Noam Sayin'

Note to self: Don't link a pic of Barbra's nasty yabos on a FNDT.

/ARE YOU SURE?

773 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:49pm

re: #768 MandyManners

What's an internal poll?

Has something to do with porn on the internet.

774 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:31:51pm

re: #760 jorline

Good game, but they should have scored more in the 8th.

They won. End of commentary. lol

775 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:08pm

re: #723 joecitizen

Dr. Suess wrote about tits? Who knew?

Well, there was "The 7 Lady Godivas".

Although, looking at Dr. Suess books this way could give a whole new twist to:
• And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street
• Fox in Socks
• Hop On Pop
• The Shape of Me and Other Stuff
• There's a Wocket in My Pocket!
• Mr. Brown Can Moo! Can You?

776 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:09pm

re: #712 Syrah

So tell me fellow Lizards. Please help me out with this.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are really cheap now and so is AIG.

Why would I not want to buy them at this point?

I think I read GM is at a 57 year low.   Down 90% in the last 12 months.   Its market cap is under $3B.

777 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:09pm

re: #754 realwest

How are you doing?

Our 9th grader who moved up to Varsity had 148 yards rushing and 2 touchdowns tonight. Oh it was sweet.

778 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:11pm

re: #768 MandyManners

What's an internal poll?

polls quietly conducted by campaigns themselves as opposed to outside pollsters..

779 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:31pm

re: #761 realwest

Hey jcm, why that's right thoughty of ya! I'll have a sasparella - what's the occasion for your buying a round?!?

Feeling generous! Besides I owe you 'Nam guys a few any way, and any Korea guys, and the fellows from the Big One.

Celebrating, got another munchkin dropped on the door step yesterday, 7 month old girl.

780 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:32:49pm

re: #768 MandyManners

What's an internal poll?

Those brass things in strip clubs?

781 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:00pm

re: #733 jorline
Hey jorline - tell ya the truth, I preferred what was at
#705!
How are ya holding up with the RA pain buddy?

782 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:03pm

re: #769 Hard Right

That's the only way they can avoid being proven wrong by the lizard hordes. Cowardly? That's the left for you.

agree...inviting him over here now.

783 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:09pm

Stop with the morbid fascinations of an Obama presidency! This shit ain't over, yet.

784 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:36pm

re: #778 joecitizen

polls quietly conducted by campaigns themselves as opposed to outside pollsters..

Generally considered more accurate, too, are they not? Campaigns usually believe what their internals are telling them, if there is a conflict.

785 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:52pm

re: #768 MandyManners

What's an internal poll?

/leave it alone, Noam.

786 wee fury  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:55pm

re: #768 MandyManners

What's an internal poll?

When the left side of your brain argues with the right side.

787 JCM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:33:58pm

re: #768 MandyManners

What's an internal poll?

Campaign's do their own polling, probably the most honest polls there are, the base campaign strategy on them, where to go and have events, where to spend money, where to pull out.

Internal polling is a closely guarded secret.

788 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:02pm

re: #778 joecitizen

polls quietly conducted by campaigns themselves as opposed to outside pollsters..


often used to 'feel out' the electorate..heh

789 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:26pm

re: #773 jorline

Has something to do with porn on the internet.

LOL!

790 little boomer  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:43pm

re: #760 jorline

Good game, but they should have scored more in the 8th.

It's better when the opponents lose by just a little...more disheartening.

791 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:34:47pm

Last time I told a woman I had a poll for her she said she had a headache. (rimshot)

792 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:20pm

re: #772 Killian Bundy

/ARE YOU SURE?

Damn. I remember when she was pre.....well not quite as ugly. That's horrible.

793 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:41pm

re: #649 Sharmuta

If the media was playing fair- perhaps. But they're not. Everything McCain says will be distorted. The base is going to vote for him, but the undecideds, who will see this video on the news cannot see our candidate encouraging race based fear mongering.

Can't argue with that. They'll probably isolate the questioner and leave McCain's response out by morning. "See? We told you they were racists!"

794 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:35:44pm

It's late Friday, and the thread has turned to beer, tits, and "internal polls".

It's probably a good time to make sure your e-mail goggles are on!

795 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:11pm

re: #792 Outrider

Damn. I remember when she was pre.....well not quite as ugly. That's horrible.

Time and a poor memory tends to soften the lines of ugliness.

796 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:25pm

re: #776 Opilio

I think I read GM is at a 57 year low.   Down 90% in the last 12 months.   Its market cap is under $3B.

I heard that they are in talks with Chrysler for some kind of merger. I wonder what that means?

So many stocks are at stupid low prices. Its a bit of a pickle trying to sift the wheat from the chaff.

I am thinking about Johnson and Johnson and Hershey's. I am trying to figure out what if anything is bargain at this level worth risking the money. I am willing to gamble a little bit, but not too much.

797 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:27pm

re: #787 JCM

Campaign's do their own polling, probably the most honest polls there are, the base campaign strategy on them, where to go and have events, where to spend money, where to pull out.

Internal polling is a closely guarded secret.

Leave it alone, Noam. : )

798 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:30pm

re: #773 jorline

Has something to do with porn on the internet.

Poll, not POLE.

799 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:36:53pm

re: #767 laZardo

Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

Same as it ever was. I watch that video on YT every so often cause its such a classic. And Pretender by Foo Fighters, Would by Alice in Chains, and Creep by Radiohead. YouTube is my jukebox.

800 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:01pm

re: #774 Wishing

They won. End of commentary. lol

That's all that counts.

801 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:08pm

re: #772 Killian Bundy

My eyes! My eyes!

Ahhh. Thats better.

802 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:14pm

re: #778 joecitizen

polls quietly conducted by campaigns themselves as opposed to outside pollsters..

How is it done? I heard today on the radio that they're expensive.

803 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:33pm

re: #759 Syrah
You're welcome - PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, however, that I'm not a finacial wizard or anything - though I put her investment advisor through the wringer before I let mom put her tiny amount of savings into 'em!

804 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:45pm
805 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:51pm

re: #796 Syrah

I heard that they are in talks with Chrysler for some kind of merger. I wonder what that means?

So many stocks are at stupid low prices. Its a bit of a pickle trying to sift the wheat from the chaff.

I am thinking about Johnson and Johnson and Hershey's. I am trying to figure out what if anything is bargain at this level worth risking the money. I am willing to gamble a little bit, but not too much.

folks will always need lotion,floor wax, and chocolate...

806 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:37:57pm

re: #780 Metal Man

Those brass things in strip clubs?

They're brass? How do you know this?

807 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:02pm

re: #781 realwest

Hey jorline - tell ya the truth, I preferred what was at
#705!
How are ya holding up with the RA pain buddy?

I'm well...thanks RW. It's Ambian time though.

808 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:22pm

re: #768 MandyManners

What's an internal poll?

I think it is a poll conducted by the candidate in secret.

809 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:27pm

re: #772 Killian Bundy

/ARE YOU SURE?

Dang it,,I ticked on that,and now i cant find my matches to burn my eyes out with.Thanks Bundy.

810 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:31pm

re: #795 Hard Right

Time and a poor memory tends to soften the lines of ugliness.

Kinda like 2 am on B.C. Street on Okinawa. No such thing as ugly then.

811 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:34pm

re: #755 Intrepid

Yesterday, he went on and on on national TV about the most important thing about the debate and campaigning was to have fun. Today, he hands his opponent a home goal of enormous value.

He is up against a slick and dirty political machine. He's acting presidential? You have got to be kidding me. I don't want a president who doesn't understand the name of the game. And neither should you. Our enemies are not going to play by the Marquess of Queesnbury rules, and he should be smart enough to know how to fight back effectively.

812 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:36pm

re: #785 Noam Sayin'

/leave it alone, Noam.

You?!

813 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:43pm

re: #802 MandyManners

How is it done? I heard today on the radio that they're expensive.

Just the ones that come with a hand pump.

814 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:38:55pm

re: #786 wee fury

When the left side of your brain argues with the right side.

Happens all the time.

815 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:25pm

re: #758 capitalist piglet

Agree 105%.

816 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:28pm

re: #742 ploome hineni

Also these:

al-Taqiyya part 1, part 2, part 3

Written by a Muslim, for Muslims; all quotes are sourced. The writer states his intention in the second paragraph:

I intend to demonstrate and prove that the concept of "al-Taqiyya" is an integral part of Islam, and that it is NOT a Shi'ite concoction.

817 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:36pm

re: #790 little boomer

It's better when the opponents lose by just a little...more disheartening.

LOL

818 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:44pm

re: #794 gmsc

It's late Friday, and the thread has turned to beer, tits, and "internal polls".

It's probably a good time to make sure your e-mail goggles are on!

I just send all late night emails to my own second account and decide in the morning if I should forward them.

Even drunk I can google math answers:)

819 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:39:52pm

re: #810 Outrider

Kinda like 2 am on B.C. Street on Okinawa. No such thing as ugly then.

That's beer doing it's magic.

820 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:09pm

re: #682 Arby Dwiar

So - if Carter gave us Reagan, who will Obama give us?

Hitler Pt. II?

Seriously, you don't think BHO is the be-all-end-all ChumpyMcStalinAcorn that will ruin America and drive us to seek a much greater leader, do you? He is merely the preamble; the prologue to a much greater, fascist horror that will plunge not only this country, but the entire world, into darkness and despair.

/Need I?

821 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:20pm

re: #798 MandyManners

Poll, not POLE.

;)

822 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:25pm

re: #799 mich-again

And about my only source for good political humor.

/takes a person to laugh at himself sometimes, the other side of the aisle just gets OFFENDED.

823 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:40pm

re: #809 Oldasdirt

Dang it,,I ticked on that,and now i cant find my matches to burn my eyes out with.Thanks Bundy.

Good thing you don't smoke. I'm assuming that, because you'd know where your matches were otherwise. Or your lighter.

824 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:45pm

re: #801 Racer X

My eyes! My eyes!

Ahhh. Thats better.

Thanks RacerX,,After the Bundy link I was feeling kinda sick.
All better now.

825 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:46pm

re: #806 MandyManners

They're brass? How do you know this?

Because wood would give you splinters in bad places.

826 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:46pm

OK - no one go post on the new thread.

827 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:06pm

re: #803 realwest

You're welcome - PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, however, that I'm not a finacial wizard or anything - though I put her investment advisor through the wringer before I let mom put her tiny amount of savings into 'em!

I hope you put her into something that had no downside risk.

828 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:27pm

re: #806 MandyManners

They're brass? How do you know this?

You're asking Metal Man how he knows something is brass?

829 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:35pm

re: #806 MandyManners

They're brass? How do you know this?

Because they have the girls polishing them all the time.

830 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:04pm

re: #806 MandyManners

They're brass? How do you know this?

Duh I'm Metal Man:)

831 mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:29pm

re: #822 laZardo

That was pretty funny. Rick Rolled by the One.

832 itellu3times  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:42pm

re: #672 Sharmuta

Anything he says can and will be used against him by the court of the msm.

So what should he have said?

What was the question?

833 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:44pm

Oh, wait. This is the FNDT. I shoulda' vetted my question better.

834 Timbre  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:46pm

I wonder if "President" Obama has plans to appoint Rod Blagojevich as Secretary of Labor?

835 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:05pm

re: #828 gmsc

You're asking Metal Man how he knows something is brass?

re: #830 Metal Man

Duh I'm Metal Man:)

See? I told you!

836 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:11pm

re: #823 Catttt

Good thing you don't smoke. I'm assuming that, because you'd know where your matches were otherwise. Or your lighter.

Getting old sucks,,I still have not found them,,but Racer X fixed me.

837 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:15pm

re: #768 MandyManners
Ah, you really don't want to know Mandy!
.
.
.
.
.

Actually, I think it's a poll conducted by a campaign - more honest than other polls - to let the candate know what's really going on!

838 Racer X  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:26pm

re: #824 Oldasdirt

Thanks RacerX,,After the Bundy link I was feeling kinda sick.
All better now.

I think I love her.

839 little boomer  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:51pm

re: #826 Racer X

OK - no one go post on the new thread.

New Thread!

840 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:09pm

re: #777 mich-again
WHOA! Your NINTH grader had 148 yards rushing on the varsity team tonight? How many carries and is he a speed runner or power?!

841 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:12pm

re: #768 MandyManners

An internal poll is what hookers get paid to receive.

/BRACES

842 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:17pm

re: #815 Irene NYC

Agree 105%.

And yet, you're not from Indianapolis!

843 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:34pm

re: #779 JCM
Another munchkin? Mazel Tov my friend - HEY it's I who owe you a drink - and your wife as well.
I'm serious, you two are really terrific people.

844 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:38pm

re: #838 Racer X

I think I love her.

Got problem loading page.

845 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:50pm

re: #841 laZardo

An internal poll is what hookers get paid to receive.

/BRACES

lmao

846 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:27pm

re: #783 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Preach it brother, preach it!

847 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:50pm

OK Racer,,works now,,nice,Kinda looks my youngest grandaughter..LOL

848 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:40pm

Next thread

849 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:46pm

re: #796 Syrah

I heard that they are in talks with Chrysler for some kind of merger. I wonder what that means?

So many stocks are at stupid low prices. Its a bit of a pickle trying to sift the wheat from the chaff.

I am thinking about Johnson and Johnson and Hershey's. I am trying to figure out what if anything is bargain at this level worth risking the money. I am willing to gamble a little bit, but not too much.

To quote - someone - The time to buy is when there is blood in the streets."

I agree that we have a buying opportunity. However, I let the pros pick them for me - mutual funds. I did reallocate to sectors that I think are really ridiculously undervalued now and therefore have huge growth potential. And I more than doubled my pretax contrib. :D

850 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:01pm

re: #811 Irene NYC
Hi Irene - what did who hand to whom?!

851 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:13pm

re: #836 Oldasdirt

Getting old sucks,,I still have not found them,,but Racer X fixed me.

I have a lot of lighters and backup matches, just in case. I can't fallback and use a burner, as I am afraid of my stove.

852 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:37pm

re: #827 Bobibutu
Fannie Mae BONDS. A few years ago.

853 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:13pm

re: #829 jorline Yes, the girls/women (I hope) do a right good job of polishing them, too!
I hear, I mean, I hear!

854 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:19pm

re: #325 MandyManners

Doesn't he have a ranch in Montana?

Oh god not another one. I wish the hell you other states would keep your progressives where they belong and quit shipping them to us.
/we don't need any more. And they won't open up a season on 'em

855 Macker  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:32pm

re: #635 jorline

*brain bleach*

Here, hand me some of that.

856 talon_262  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:50pm

re: #658 Metal Man

The public needs to know!
Did Barbara Streisand have nightmares having to sleep with W for the past 2 years while stone filmed his movie:(

Umm, James Brolin is Babs' husband...Josh is her stepson.

857 stuiec  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:37:47pm

re: #791 Hard Right

Last time I told a woman I had a poll for her wanted to poll her internally, she said she had a headache. (rimshot)


Repaired.

858 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:40:20pm

re: #857 stuiec

Repaired.

Hey, it fits either way...........(rimshot)

859 DeKalb  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:48:19am

Thank you all for the information on takiya (takia, taqiya).


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