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Open | Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:38:44 pm PDT

A clown is funny in the circus ring, but what would be the normal reaction to opening a door at midnight and finding the same clown standing there in the moonlight?

Lon Chaney, Sr.

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1 dgax65  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:26pm

A clown running for president of the United States is kind of scary too.

2 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:38pm

My reaction would be one of hysterical, maniacal laughter.

Let's see who's the crazier one.

3 Wishing  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:39pm

CZ 75D, 9mm
The SAFE door-opener

4 Arby Dwiar  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:40:51pm

No doubt the inspiration behind Stephen King's "It".

5 rawmuse  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:32pm

Worst head cold I've had in years. No doubt about it.

6 jcm  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:44pm
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Seattle hosts an Obama Youth Parade (Malkin)
Yeah! Seattle! Brainwash those tots!

7 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:41:53pm

Re-posted from previous thread, because I think it's important.

re: #742 ploome hineni

Also these:

al-Taqiyya part 1, part 2, part 3

Written by a Muslim, for Muslims; all quotes are sourced. The writer states his intention in the second paragraph:

I intend to demonstrate and prove that the concept of "al-Taqiyya" is an integral part of Islam, and that it is NOT a Shi'ite concoction.

8 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:33pm

Clowns at the circus are scary enough.........now I'll never answer the door at midnight.

9 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:36pm

Dogpile on the wabbit new thread.

10 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:40pm
A clown is funny in the circus ring, but what would be the normal reaction to opening a door at midnight and finding the same clown standing there in the moonlight?

"No, why are YOU so serious?"

11 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:47pm

re: #6 jcm

Seattle hosts an Obama Youth Parade (Malkin)
Yeah! Seattle! Brainwash those tots!

Too late, they already have.

12 zerodamage  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:53pm

I guess there is nothing of interest to talk about. Unless we want to take the so called guilty verdict for Palin anything other than a political hatchet job. Well... because.. you know... that is much more important than Obama's relationships with ACORN, Ayers, Rezko, Wright . . . . . .

13 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:42:57pm

Swinging fists. Or crying. Depends on who you are.

14 wee fury  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:03pm

eeeekkkkkk!

15 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:11pm

I'd like to take this opportunity to repeat everything I said on the previous thread...

16 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:12pm

Clowns are disturbing even when they're offering you a hamburger.

17 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:22pm

I hate clowns.

Clowns should not mistake that as fear.

18 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:43:28pm

re: #10 laZardo

"No, why are YOU so serious?"

Eeeek. Blam blam blam. Ooops.

19 jaunte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:00pm

re: #16 jaunte

This is a metaphor of the Obama campaign.

20 Bobblehead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:10pm

Wow. New style footballs. Very nice.

21 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:12pm

re: #5 rawmuse

Worst head cold I've had in years. No doubt about it.

Sorry to hear it! Hope you feel better soon.

(((rawmuse)))

22 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:24pm

Brb, shower. 10K + college commute = D:

23 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:34pm

re: #16 jaunte

Clowns are disturbing even when they're offering you a hamburger.

[Envisions Obama trying (and failing) to work at McDonald's.]

24 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:39pm
25 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:44:43pm

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

25 miles East of San Francisco.

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring your suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat and thanks to LGF - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Plenty of parking ... 100+.

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

RawMuse hosted that one.

We all like each other.

I volunteered to host the next meet.

This is it.

26 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:19pm

re: #12 zerodamage

I guess there is nothing of interest to talk about. Unless we want to take the so called guilty verdict for Palin anything other than a political hatchet job. Well... because.. you know... that is much more important than Obama's relationships with ACORN, Ayers, Rezko, Wright . . . . . .

The MSM adores violent, abusive types. Without them, there's hardly ever any news.

27 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:45:24pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

[Envisions Obama trying (and failing) to work at McDonald's.]

I would definitely wax that creepy SOB if I found him in my room. Then I'd eat the burger.

28 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:38pm
29 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:41pm

re: #25 Bobibutu

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

25 miles East of San Francisco.

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring your suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat and thanks to LGF - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Plenty of parking ... 100+.

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

RawMuse hosted that one.

We all like each other.

I volunteered to host the next meet.

This is it.

Wish I could go.

Some day.

30 jcm  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:46:42pm

re: #11 victor_yugo

Too late, they already have.

My Church is right near there, we'll be long gone by 2 pm.

31 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:00pm

I saw Lon Chaney walking with the Queen. Doing the Werewolves of London. AhhooOOOOoooOOoooOOO.

32 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:19pm

re: #25 Bobibutu

I always enjoyed riding BART to Walnut Creek. The longest route, and very scenic.

33 wee fury  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:34pm

Clowns and bats at midnight are excessively frightening.

34 Bobblehead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:46pm

re: #5 rawmuse

Worst head cold I've had in years. No doubt about it.

Nothing worse than a bad cold. No way to get away from it. Feel better soon.

35 Outrider  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:47:55pm
A clown is funny in the circus ring, but what would be the normal reaction to opening a door at midnight and finding the same clown standing there in the moonlight?


Funnier actually. Unexpectedness and all.

36 quickredfox  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:06pm

It looks like this may be a coulrophobia thread.

p.s. I'm not exactly a newly-hatched lizard, but rather, one that has shed old skin for new. Formerly known as wannabuyaduck, with a nod to Joe Penner, I had been thinking for awhile about how I would really like to put up a fox avatar, having always liked foxes with their looks and nature combining something of the dog and something of the cat (when I was a kid it would annoy me that the foxes were almost always the villains in stories and cartoons) -- and nowadays, most of my gainful employment involves qwerty work, so it seemed fitting enough. The question of brown fox or red fox was solved by the fact that though I am in one of the bluest of areas, I have more of a red-state state of mind. So here I am, same lizard but new skin -- not a sock, not a troll!

37 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:18pm

re: #29 Syrah

Wish I could go.

Some day.

Wish you could as this is not a regular event.

38 Price_of_Peace  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:28pm

re: #24 Syrah

Awesome!

39 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:29pm

re: #31 Mich-again

I saw Lon Chaney walking with the Queen. Doing the Werewolves of London. AhhooOOOOoooOOoooOOO.


Thanks. I was just thinking about this song the other day.

40 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:48:40pm

Who the hell wants to see a clown at midnight? I don't!

Regardless, the Preds have signed all of our good players from last year, and we're looking to kick some major ass this year!

Go PREDS!

41 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:03pm

re: #6 jcm

Seattle hosts an Obama Youth Parade (Malkin)
Yeah! Seattle! Brainwash those tots!

The Little Octobrist?

42 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:05pm

re: #35 Outrider

Funnier actually. Unexpectedness and all.

that would be one dead fucking clown..

43 zerodamage  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:43pm

I am bored and am looking forward to a new and interesting tech post.

44 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:49:54pm

What do you call 535 clowns in one room?
The US Congress.

45 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:03pm

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Swinging fists. Or crying. Depends on who you are.

Swinging fists, plus crying. LOL

46 WitchDoctor  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:22pm

I'm not a professional clown. I don't even like them that much. But I don't loath them. What is it about our society that felt the need to make clowns into our worst nightmare. I shake my head.

47 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:34pm

So. I went ahead and bought back into the market, today. Just a tiny bit of one stock. It was steadily on the way up before Monday's crash.

48 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:35pm

re: #6 jcm

Seattle hosts an Obama Youth Parade (Malkin)
Yeah! Seattle! Brainwash those tots!

Everybody sing! "When The One says we are the master race . . ."

More on this get-together at Gateway Pundit.

49 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:53pm

re: #18 Hard Right

Eeeek. Blam blam blam. Ooops.

Nice grouping!

50 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:55pm
A clown is funny in the circus ring, but what would be the normal reaction to opening a door at midnight and finding the same clown standing there in the moonlight?

— Lon Chaney, Sr.

That almost sounds like a Jack Handey quote.

Am I the only one here who's into Jack Handey?

51 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:50:55pm

re: #9 Hard Right

Dogpile on the wabbit new thread.

Kill the wabbit.

52 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:29pm

re: #32 victor_yugo

I always enjoyed riding BART to Walnut Creek. The longest route, and very scenic.

then get yer butt out here - we would like to meet you.

53 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:37pm

re: #47 Cognito

Hmmm. Bargain hunting. A sign of the bottom?

54 jcm  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:51:50pm

re: #48 gmsc

Everybody sing! "When The One says we are the master race . . ."

More on this get-together at Gateway Pundit.

Haven't we watched this movie before, in fact a few remakes. It always ends badly doesn't it?

55 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:02pm

And on a personal note, I found out this evening that I may get laid off the last full week of the month. There's a chance I won't, thanks to my particular training, but it's only a chance right now. In a week I should know for certain one way or the other.

Nevertheless, I'm still able to smile tonight. I'll be able to pay my rent for next month, cover the bills for this month, and I'm going to a gathering of like-minded types tomorrow. Life is... well, let's just say it doesn't suck.

56 jcm  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:03pm
57 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:44pm

What gender is the clown?
Might be nice in a funny sort of way.

58 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:52:49pm

re: #50 capitalist piglet

That almost sounds like a Jack Handey quote.

Am I the only one here who's into Jack Handey?

One of my favorites:

If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did."

59 Bobblehead  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:27pm

I've seen quite a few of Lon Chaney, Sr.'s silent movies on TCM. Some of them were quite bizarre. Too bad he died before the full advent of the talkies.

60 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:32pm

re: #53 Syrah

Hmmm. Bargain hunting. A sign of the bottom?

It's a stock I owned once and sold, then soon regretted it. It just rose and rose. I figure this is my chance to get back into it.

61 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:47pm

re: #47 Cognito

So. I went ahead and bought back into the market, today. Just a tiny bit of one stock. It was steadily on the way up before Monday's crash.

Good. Solid stocks will rebound. I don't always agree with you Cognito, but you do have real wisdom and are an asset to this forum.

62 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:53:50pm

re: #55 victor_yugo

Pulling for ya in my prayers, Victor.

63 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:14pm

re: #47 Cognito

So. I went ahead and bought back into the market, today. Just a tiny bit of one stock. It was steadily on the way up before Monday's crash.


Cog, you can see into the future?
;)

64 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:35pm

re: #47 Cognito

So. I went ahead and bought back into the market, today. Just a tiny bit of one stock. It was steadily on the way up before Monday's crash.

Dude. You should really seek the advise of a financial planner - you and the Mrs., bring the kids - all 17 of them.

A stock here or there might make you rich - or unbelievably f*cking poor.

Get your dollars allocated according to a risk/reward spectrum you're comfortable with, and f*cking leave it there. Update your goals annually. If your planner is reluctant to have an annual meeting, move your dough.

65 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:47pm

re: #49 gmsc

Nice grouping!


At that range, not too difficult. ;)

re: #51 Metal Man

Kill the wabbit.

Sweet! Thanks.

66 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:54:54pm

re: #25 Bobibutu

Boy, times sure have changed. We had a secret location, password and handshake for our LGFOhio meetups. ;)

67 winston06  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:55:29pm

hello

68 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:04pm

re: #6 jcm

I used to live near Seattle and it's one of the most beautiful cities in the world IMHO. I still miss it. What a shame that so many moonbats live there.....

69 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:06pm

re: #64 Noam Sayin'

Dude. You should really seek the advise of a financial planner - you and the Mrs., bring the kids - all 17 of them.

A stock here or there might make you rich - or unbelievably f*cking poor.

Not a chance. My meager funds are all in cash, now. The stock pick is just a dabble. Can't resist a bargain.

70 rawmuse  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:56:58pm

re: #55 victor_yugo

You sound like me on the last full time job I had. I couldn't wait to get laid off.
I was quality control of a software product. I would break it, write up how I broke it, then the programmers would fix some of the bugs, all the while selling the product like it was ready to roll.

I knew the company was going down the tubes. I was right. Today, they are history.

71 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:00pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Cog, you can see into the future?
;)

Awright, awright. It had steadily climbed before Monday's crash...

72 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:14pm

An MST3K classic:

73 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:35pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

Hey, much obliged.

74 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:42pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Cog, you can see into the future?
;)

What is the market going to do tomorrow?

If you don't know - then why are you in the market? Especially if you if you are 55 +?

75 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:57:47pm

re: #69 Cognito

Not a chance. My meager funds are all in cash, now. The stock pick is just a dabble. Can't resist a bargain.

Break a leg, friend.

The time to buy is when there is blood in the streets. (quote from somebody)

76 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:02pm

re: #58 Opilio

One of my favorites:

If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did."

I love that one too. I was just looking some over:

"It's easy to sit there and say you'd like to have more money. And I guess that's what I like about it. It's easy. Just sitting there, rocking back and forth, wanting that money."

77 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:07pm

re: #67 winston06

Hola.

78 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:09pm

Some idiot working as an evil clown in front of some tourist trap in Gatlinburg TN chased my petrified 10 YO daughter down the street last year for fun. I wasn't there with my wife and her at the time. If I had been I would have kicked the clowns ass up and down the street.

Never been a clown fan here.

79 joecitizen  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:11pm

allright Lizards,it's been grand..may all yer dreams be scaley.

80 paperhat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:25pm

If anybody is interested, here's a youtube video I made about Barack's comment on Ayers being rehabbed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wX7JTQIgiQ

81 quickredfox  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:30pm

re: #72 Intrepid

An MST3K classic:

[Link: video.google.com...]

Oh my, Space Mutiny! A great one!

82 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:58:53pm

re: #67 winston06
Hello back atcha!

83 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:00pm

re: #71 Cognito

Awright, awright. It had steadily climbed before Monday's crash...

17 children? What was that about?

Seriously I know a French woman how did bear 17 children and was awarded a Mother of the Country award. Her husband left her for a younger woman.

84 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:24pm

re: #74 Bobibutu

What is the market going to do tomorrow?

If you don't know - then why are you in the market? Especially if you if you are 55 +?

The market is going to do nothing tomorrow. :D What do I win?

85 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:37pm

it likely was a contributing factor.

What?

It is also "likely" that Obama knew that Ayers and Dohrn were unrepentant domestic terrorists when he first met them in 1988...
It is also "likely" that Obama was criminally involved with Tony Rezko...
It is also "likely" that Obama's paid surrogate Acorn is heavily involved in voter freud in several swing states...
It is also "likely" that Obama not only knew about Acorns voter freud efforts, but funded them...
It is also "likely" that Obama was sitting in his pew with his wife and children while Reverend Jeremiah Wright was spewing his "hate-whitey", "hate America" rhetoric...
It is also "likely" Nancy Pelosi awarded her husband's company several government contracts illegally...
It is also "likely" that Dianne Finestein awarded her husbands company several government contracts illegally...
It is also "likely" that Obama was working with known Saudi terrorist supporter Dr. Khalid al-Mansour...
It is also "likely" that Obama knowingly sent his Muslim outreach director to meet with Hamas and Hezbollah...

Shall I go continue?

it likely was a contributing factor....

What a crock of far left moonbat bullshit...

86 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 9:59:55pm

re: #83 Irene NYC

17 children? What was that about?

Seriously I know a French woman how did bear 17 children and was awarded a Mother of the Country award. Her husband left her for a younger woman.

That's the Fwench for you.

87 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:12pm

re: #55 victor_yugo
Hey, I wish you the best of luck amigo!

88 TheWasteLand  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:21pm

re: #50 capitalist piglet


Am I the only one here who's into Jack Handey?

"To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad."

-- Jack Handy

89 little boomer  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:44pm

re: #84 Catttt

The market is going to do nothing tomorrow. :D What do I win?

I think I know what the market will do tomorrow...it's saturday!

90 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:00:49pm

re: #67 winston06

hello

Howdy do!Jump right in.

91 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:01:13pm

re: #74 Bobibutu

What is the market going to do tomorrow?

If you don't know - then why are you in the market? Especially if you if you are 55 +?

I don't understand - you know what the market is going to do tomorrow? And what does 55+ have to do with being in or out?

92 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:01:15pm

re: #64 Noam Sayin'

Ahem...

Noam Sayin' is not a financial planner, licensed to speak about financial issues with the common public. Noam often pretends to know "what the f*ck he's talking about" particularly when he's had large quantities of alcohol, regardless of whether "he forgot" to pour booze into his drink. Consult your tax advisor for relevant tax information on the purchase or sale of investment securities. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Individual results may vary. People can and do lose money. Go Packers.

Waddya say you hand me the keys, Noam?

93 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:01:26pm

re: #85 Strike Hornet


big upding for you......

94 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:01:58pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Her husband left her for a younger woman.

After 17 kids she was in all likelihood crazy. Duh.

95 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:23pm

re: #74 Bobibutu

What is the market going to do tomorrow?

If you don't know - then why are you in the market? Especially if you if you are 55 +?

The markets do nothing but tremble on the weekends, either form sheer terror or rapturous delight.

96 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:24pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet

Ahem...

Noam Sayin' is not a financial planner, licensed to speak about financial issues with the common public. Noam often pretends to know "what the f*ck he's talking about" particularly when he's had large quantities of alcohol, regardless of whether "he forgot" to pour booze into his drink. Consult your tax advisor for relevant tax information on the purchase or sale of investment securities. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Individual results may vary. People can and do lose money. Go Packers.

Waddya say you hand me the keys, Noam?

Not guaranteed. It it possible to lose ALL of your money. Go Ravens.

97 Cognito  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:31pm

re: #83 Irene NYC

17 children? What was that about?

Seriously I know a French woman how did bear 17 children and was awarded a Mother of the Country award. Her husband left her for a younger woman.

If I recall, I may have once claimed to be 87 years old, here, with a vast brood of children.

It may or may not be true.

98 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:49pm

re: #75 Catttt

I think I made a comment about that...but that was regarding the habits of East Asian markets.

/not so much Southeast Asian markets, but Hong Kong's pretty damn close to here...

99 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:02:53pm

re: #66 Cartman

Boy, times sure have changed. We had a secret location, password and handshake for our LGFOhio meetups. ;)

Well the actual lat and long are reserved for those who want to go for it - sides ya' gotta get thru the gate with the password. They are armed.

100 jorline  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:28pm

Time for bed...behave Lizards!

101 logboy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:29pm

Depends. Are we talking a happy balloon animal making clown, or the clown from Steven King's "It"? Who doesn't like a balloon giraffe?

102 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:58pm

re: #94 Mich-again

After 17 kids she was in all likelihood crazy. Duh.


No, she isn't. She very kind and continues to work hard. Her kids, though, are another story.
;)

103 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:03:59pm

re: #95 Syrah

The markets do nothing but tremble on the weekends, either form sheer terror or rapturous delight.

Wouldn't one tremble from terror but quiver with delight?

104 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:04:08pm

re: #72 Intrepid

An MST3K classic:

[Link: video.google.com...]

For those who don't have time to see the full version, here's the abridged version.

105 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:04:21pm

re: #98 laZardo

I think I made a comment about that...but that was regarding the habits of East Asian markets.

/not so much Southeast Asian markets, but Hong Kong's pretty damn close to here...

Now I'm thinking of the baby making trades and spitting up (commercial).

106 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:04:35pm

re: #74 Bobibutu

What is the market going to do tomorrow?

If you don't know - then why are you in the market? Especially if you if you are 55 +?

I know exactly what the market will do tomorrow, it's Monday I have questions about.

107 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:04:40pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet

Waddya say you hand me the keys, Noam?

Waddya say I hand you your ass, puppet?

Who keeps letting this asshole in here?

108 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:04:42pm

re: #84 Catttt

The market is going to do nothing tomorrow. :D What do I win?

You get a gold star ... Heh.

109 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:18pm

re: #83 Irene NYC
Hi Irene! Uh, to quote Groucho Marx (if I were speaking to the mother of 17 children that is) "Gee lady, I like my cigar too, but I sometimes take it out".
No lie - it's the line that got him kicked off TV!

How are ya doing tonight?

110 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:05:26pm

re: #101 logboy

Depends. Are we talking a happy balloon animal making clown, or the clown from Steven King's "It"? Who doesn't like a balloon giraffe?

Perhaps a hungry balloon lion?

111 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:05pm

The markets may be closed, but we're working this weekend. Customers are freaking out. Mostly, they just need reassurance. I don't mind OT - I'm non-exempt. :D

112 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:10pm

Oh, the wonderfully creepy Cronenberg remake of The Fly is on AMC.

I love October.

113 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:12pm

re: #109 realwest

Hi Irene! Uh, to quote Groucho Marx (if I were speaking to the mother of 17 children that is) "Gee lady, I like my cigar too, but I sometimes take it out".
No lie - it's the line that got him kicked off TV!

How are ya doing tonight?

Spew warning needed.

114 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:33pm

re: #101 logboy

I think we're talking about the clown that does "magic tricks" with pencils.

115 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:43pm

re: #52 Bobibutu

then get yer butt out here - we would like to meet you.

I've thought about meeting other Lizards, but like zombie, I tend to be protective of my online identity. I prefer to have few connections between my face and my comments.

re: #70 rawmuse

You sound like me on the last full time job I had. I couldn't wait to get laid off.
I was quality control of a software product. I would break it, write up how I broke it, then the programmers would fix some of the bugs, all the while selling the product like it was ready to roll.

I knew the company was going down the tubes. I was right. Today, they are history.

Been there, done that. The second full-time IT job I had. Only, I didn't leave of my own volition.

Then again, the jerk who fired me was caught two months later in a monstrous lie, when he told his boss the department's assignment could be done in two weeks. The rank-and-file then told their boss's boss (on their own) that two weeks didn't have enough hours to get the work done... more like six weeks if everyone worked 24/7.

Jerk was gone very shortly after that.

116 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:06:50pm

After what McCain said today, how are we supposed to take him or his campaign seriously anymore?

117 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:00pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet ROTFLMAO!
Get them keys ESPECIALLY if he's a riding that scooter tonight!

118 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:00pm

re: #114 laZardo

I think we're talking about the clown that does "magic tricks" with pencils.

I am soooo not clicking on that.

119 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:12pm

re: #103 Opilio

Wouldn't one tremble from terror but quiver with delight?

Hmmm.

To ponder a thought.

But since terror and delight are both derived from anticipation, . . . I guess it would depend on which side of the arrow's flight you stand whether you would tremble or quiver.

Quiver it is.

120 looking closely  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:34pm

Suspicious hijacked Iranian ship released. . .

[Link: afp.google.com...]

Somali pirates release hijacked Iranian ship

TEHRAN (AFP) — Pirates released an Iranian ship that had been hijacked off the Somali coast in August, state news agency IRNA reported on Friday.

"The ship Dianat was released on Friday morning after seven weeks of ... negotiations with Somali pirates," the state-owned Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines said in statement carried by the agency.

"All 29 members of the crew are safe and sound and the ship is sailing towards international waters," it said.

The report did not say whether ransom was paid. [YA THINK?]

The merchant vessel was headed from China to the Netherlands carrying minerals and industrial products when it was hijacked on August 21 along with a German and a Japanese ship off the Gulf of Aden.

The waters off Somalia and Nigeria are the most pirate-infested in the world.

121 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:38pm

re: #91 Irene NYC

I don't understand - you know what the market is going to do tomorrow? And what does 55+ have to do with being in or out?

No one knows. If you are approaching retirement - why are you still gambling?

122 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:50pm

re: #109 realwest

Hi Irene! Uh, to quote Groucho Marx (if I were speaking to the mother of 17 children that is) "Gee lady, I like my cigar too, but I sometimes take it out".
No lie - it's the line that got him kicked off TV!

How are ya doing tonight?

Great, real! And that's a great line of Groucho's. Gotta pass it on to one of his biggest fans - my husband. You sound nice and chipper - hope everything's well down south.
;)

123 Salem  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:07:56pm

Lon Chaney was born here in Colorado Springs. His parents were deaf and went to the old school for the deaf and blind here.

124 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:13pm

re: #118 Hard Right

It's not a Rickroll, if that's what you're worried about.

/why so serious?

125 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:39pm

re: #94 Mich-again
Hey Mich - didja ever answer my question about your budding NFL RB of the year son?
Is he a power runner or a speed merchant? And 148 yards on how many carries my friend?!

126 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:08:53pm

re: #105 Catttt

Now I'm thinking of the baby making trades and spitting up (commercial).

I linked to the baby/clown E*trade ad up in #28. a classic

127 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:06pm

re: #124 laZardo

It's not a Rickroll, if that's what you're worried about.

/why so serious?


Nope. clown + pencil can't be good.

128 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:14pm

re: #124 laZardo

It's not a Rickroll, if that's what you're worried about.

Ahhhh, that's what they ALL say. ;)

129 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:35pm

re: #116 Ward Cleaver

After what McCain said today, how are we supposed to take him or his campaign seriously anymore?

No choice. Can't vote for a socialist, and I'm not ideologically pure enough to throw my vote away on a third party. Voting is a priviliege I never miss.

I'm having a hard time voting for McCain, but I'll happily do it since it de facto means a vote against the Messiah.

Sucks, eh?

130 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:09:41pm

re: #123 Salem

Lon Chaney was born here in Colorado Springs. His parents were deaf and went to the old school for the deaf and blind here.

Now they only teach dems. (rimshot)

131 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:07pm

re: #100 jorline
Good night my friend - and WTH kind of thing is that, "behave"? How the heck are ya supposed to have fun if you do that?!

132 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:52pm

re: #120 looking closely

Suspicious hijacked Iranian ship released. . .

[Link: afp.google.com...]

I think this ship was a big dirty bomb,and they were going to set it off in the Suez canal.

133 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:10:54pm

re: #45 gop_patriot

Now that gave me a laugh, picturing someone crying while kicking the crap out of a clown.

DISCLAIMER: I have nothing against clowns, and have never hit one. Mimes...
/s

134 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:14pm

re: #126 Opilio

I linked to the baby/clown E*trade ad up in #28. a classic

Cute. But what the hell is the vid on the right I see - a woman breastfeeding an eight-year old? Ewwwwwk. Not clicking on that.

135 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:15pm

re: #104 gmsc

For those who don't have time to see the full version, here's the abridged version.

Who was the other "host" besides Mike? He's the one I remember.

136 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:16pm

re: #121 Bobibutu

No one knows. If you are approaching retirement - why are you still gambling?


What made you think any of that, Bobibutu? I'm not stupid and although I don't know exactly what the market is doing tomorrow, I didn't listen to any financial advisers and am happily sitting today on a pile of cash and treasuries.

137 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:11:48pm

re: #107 Noam Sayin'
Noam, please, he's only tryin' to protect your ass.
And I don't know who let him in hear, but I suspect YOU know!
SherlockrealwestHolmes!

138 quickredfox  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:17pm

re: #104 gmsc

For those who don't have time to see the full version, here's the abridged version.

"We're reaching speeds of three!"

139 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:30pm

re: #135 Ward Cleaver

Who was the other "host" besides Mike? He's the one I remember.

Joel was the original host.

140 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:38pm

re: #37 Bobibutu

Wish you could as this is not a regular event.

The future is a big place.

Possibilities and opportunities are boundless.

141 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:42pm

re: #113 Hard Right
Ah, sorry about that - but I did say Groucho Marx, and that shoulda been a tipoff, ya know!

142 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:48pm

re: #115 victor_yugo

Been there, done that. The second full-time IT job I had. Only, I didn't leave of my own volition.

Then again, the jerk who fired me was caught two months later in a monstrous lie, when he told his boss the department's assignment could be done in two weeks. The rank-and-file then told their boss's boss (on their own) that two weeks didn't have enough hours to get the work done... more like six weeks if everyone worked 24/7.

Jerk was gone very shortly after that.

Well it is the risk - reward ratio.

Be here and multiply your chances or not.

143 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:12:54pm

re: #139 gmsc

Joel was the original host.

Joel Ruled!

144 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:08pm

re: #129 Palandine

No choice. Can't vote for a socialist, and I'm not ideologically pure enough to throw my vote away on a third party. Voting is a priviliege I never miss.

I'm having a hard time voting for McCain, but I'll happily do it since it de facto means a vote against the Messiah.

Sucks, eh?

Oh, I'll still vote for McCain, but I think he's sinking his own campaign. A textbook example of how not to run a presidential campaign.

145 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:24pm

good Evening Lizards! It was a glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

Had some very bad news about two people I know today. I don't want to dwell on it only to say it was a rude reminder that there are more important things than the election: Family and Friends.

Lizards, I am glad you are here.

How are you-all this evening and what are we talking about?

146 little boomer  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:29pm

re: #116 Ward Cleaver

After what McCain said today, how are we supposed to take him or his campaign seriously anymore?

I hate to admit it, but what did he say? Tied up with family/Red Sox duties today....

147 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:30pm

re: #139 gmsc

Joel was the original host.

Any videos with Joel there?

148 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:48pm

re: #137 realwest

Noam, please, he's only tryin' to protect your ass.
And I don't know who let him in hear, but I suspect YOU know!
SherlockrealwestHolmes!

You stay out of this, "Westy."

149 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:48pm

re: #99 Bobibutu

Gotcha. We were all armed, too. ;) I'll have to post a link sometime to the pics from one of the meetups. It looked like Ohio was about to be invaded. :)

150 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:13:49pm

re: #141 realwest

Ah, sorry about that - but I did say Groucho Marx, and that shoulda been a tipoff, ya know!

We have an autographed photo of Groucho to hubbie.. One of hubbies prized possessions.
;)

151 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:00pm

re: #141 realwest

Ah, sorry about that - but I did say Groucho Marx, and that shoulda been a tipoff, ya know!

Hey, there's good and there is great. That was great!

152 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:08pm

re: #146 little boomer

I hate to admit it, but what did he say? Tied up with family/Red Sox duties today....

That we don't have to be afraid of Obama as president.

153 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:10pm

re: #135 Ward Cleaver

Who was the other "host" besides Mike? He's the one I remember.

Joel. Sleepy-eyed fellow. Did the invention exchange. I preferred Mike, but Joel was the one who kicked the whole thing off.

/I'm HUGE

154 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:20pm

re: #147 Ward Cleaver

Any videos with Joel there?

There are quite a few!

155 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:25pm

rw! How you doin' tonite. Hear anything encouraging yesterday?

156 Opilio  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:33pm

re: #134 Catttt

Cute. But what the hell is the vid on the right I see - a woman breastfeeding an eight-year old? Ewwwwwk. Not clicking on that.

I'll see your Ewwwwwk, and raise you a Gaaaaaaaaak. I did not see that thumbnail over there. Someone's idea of a "related video"?

157 little boomer  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:33pm

re: #152 Ward Cleaver

That we don't have to be afraid of Obama as president.

!

158 Salem  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:14:35pm

re: #130 Hard Right

Now they only teach dems. (rimshot)

Hehe. Nope. Still deaf and blind kids. Big old spooky-looking palatial building from the 19th century. Guess that at the time there wasn't much else here and Chaney ran away from home and joined the circus when he was fifteen.

159 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:15:20pm

re: #148 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet

You stay out of this, "Westy."

Ah, geez. Now ya did it.

You done gone after my buddy realwest.

Step outside with me for a moment, will you?

160 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:15:39pm

re: #116 Ward Cleaver
Hey Ward - what did he say?

161 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:15:41pm

re: #156 Opilio

I'll see your Ewwwwwk, and raise you a Gaaaaaaaaak. I did not see that thumbnail over there. Someone's idea of a "related video"?

God only knows, but it's weird, isn't it? Cute baby, cute baby, Ewwwwk, cute baby,....

162 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:15:46pm

re: #145 ggt

good Evening Lizards! It was a glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

Had some very bad news about two people I know today. I don't want to dwell on it only to say it was a rude reminder that there are more important things than the election: Family and Friends.

Lizards, I am glad you are here.

How are you-all this evening and what are we talking about?

Hopeing everyone is ok.Friends are hard to come by,,Good friends even harder.

163 Macker  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:15:55pm

re: #0 Charles

I saw Lon Chaney, Jr. walking with the Queen!

164 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:16:14pm

re: #159 Noam Sayin'

Ah, geez. Now ya did it.

You done gone after my buddy realwest.

Step outside with me for a moment, will you?

*GULP*

165 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:16:40pm

re: #154 gmsc

There are quite a few!

"Sir Francis Bacon, 19 cents a pound."

166 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:17:02pm

Here's one of my favorite segments from the Joel days of MST3K: Alphabet Antics

167 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:17:09pm

re: #122 Irene NYC
(quickly looks up) uh, yeah everythings fine "down south" thank you very much!

168 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:17:27pm

Uh oh. Cats woke up, realized I wasn't in bed. Now they are staring at me.

Bed time (good thing I have cats to remind me).

169 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:17:32pm

re: #158 Salem

Hehe. Nope. Still deaf and blind kids. Big old spooky-looking palatial building from the 19th century. Guess that at the time there wasn't much else here and Chaney ran away from home and joined the circus when he was fifteen.

That does explain how he was able to convey so much with only gestures and expressions.

170 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:17:36pm

re: #128 Catttt

Have you ever seen a Rickroll that involved a clown and "magic tricks" involving pencils?

/Rickrolls involving a clown, yes, but none with clowns with pencils.

171 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:17:52pm

Now they're doing it clown style. MST3K quote.

172 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:00pm

re: #160 realwest

Hey Ward - what did he say?

There's a thread about it a couple of treads down. Not good.

173 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:04pm

Can someone explain to me what the Walter Annenberg foundation is doing giving William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn 100 million dollars?

Are they COMPLETELY INSANE

My God, what has happened to this world when a foundation of a close personal friend and supporter of Ronald Reagan give a $100 Million grant to two unrepentant domestic terrorists?
Only in the land of Kos could this make any sense (and Chicago of course)...

174 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:23pm

re: #170 laZardo

Have you ever seen a Rickroll that involved a clown and "magic tricks" involving pencils?

/Rickrolls involving a clown, yes, but none with clowns with pencils.

I rickrolled someone once. It was immensely fun.

175 pat  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:27pm
A clown is funny in the circus ring, but what would be the normal reaction to opening a door at midnight and finding the same clown standing there in the moonlight?

— Lon Chaney, Sr.


Always miss Ginn on such a thread. sigh.

176 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:29pm

re: #164 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet

*Yank*

Don't anybody come back here. Somebody keep an eye out for Stinky.

177 Cartman  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:31pm

G'nite, all. Catch ya on the flipside...

178 Killian Bundy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:42pm
A clown is funny in the circus ring, but what would be the normal reaction to opening a door at midnight and finding the same clown standing there in the moonlight?

What, are we playing T-Ball here?

/pickles are the evil bastards!

179 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:18:45pm

re: #136 Irene NYC

What made you think any of that, Bobibutu? I'm not stupid and although I don't know exactly what the market is doing tomorrow, I didn't listen to any financial advisers and am happily sitting today on a pile of cash and treasuries.

Hon - I did not think of that - it is my swan song - you are in a good place.

My point is - if you don't know where the market is going ... why bet on it. There are much safer options.

180 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:19:05pm

re: #170 laZardo

The ultimate Rickroll.

181 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:19:06pm

re: #174 Catttt

The best Rickroller I know is my MP3 player/program on shuffle. [;

/and good night to you...

182 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:19:33pm

re: #148 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet Hey socky - anyone not tell you that you stink?!

183 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:20:05pm

*SMACK*

*BIFF*

*POW*

184 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:20:12pm

re: #180 victor_yugo

I wonder what happens when I click the comic.

/NOT

185 rawmuse  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:20:14pm

Later, Lizards! Got to get some shut eye tonight.

186 Catttt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:20:35pm

Ok. Really going now. OT again tomorrow. 'Night.

187 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:21:09pm

re: #184 laZardo

Ohfercryinoutloud.

Read the damn thing. It isn't a rickroll; it's about a rickroll.

188 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:21:18pm

Probably mentioned here already, but why can't people just stay the blank home?

Dutch Youth Socialists traveling to US to campaign for Obama

189 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:21:32pm

re: #173 Strike Hornet

Annenberg Challenge gave $50 million and another $50 or $60 million were raised as matching funds. The ambassador is dead and the foundation is run by his widow. Obviously a loon.

190 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:21:48pm

re: #104 gmsc

For those who don't have time to see the full version, here's the abridged version.

Hah hah hah "Big Mclarge Huge"!....

So sad they took MST3K off the air!

191 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:22:16pm

re: #185 rawmuse

Later, Lizards! Got to get some shut eye tonight.

Nite Dude.

192 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:22:42pm

re: #187 victor_yugo

I read it, but I didn't click it. (;

/I did send it to my brother though, who did click it. BWHAHAHAHA.

//YouTube string memorization FTW

193 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:22:48pm

re: #188 capitalist piglet

Probably mentioned here already, but why can't people just stay the blank home?

Dutch Youth Socialists traveling to US to campaign for Obama

A political donation from furriners. Isn't that illegal as all hell?

194 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:22:54pm

*BOOF*

Ooh! I like that one.

*BOOF, BOOF, BOOF*

*TOINK*

195 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:23:07pm

re: #173 Strike Hornet

Can someone explain to me what the Walter Annenberg foundation is doing giving William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn 100 million dollars?

Are they COMPLETELY INSANE

My God, what has happened to this world when a foundation of a close personal friend and supporter of Ronald Reagan give a $100 Million grant to two unrepentant domestic terrorists?
Only in the land of Kos could this make any sense (and Chicago of course)...

A lot of the foundations (like the Ford Foundation, and the Heinz Foundation) are now run by liberals, and give money to all kinds of crazy causes. Here's a good article, in PDF format.

196 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:23:12pm

re: #180 victor_yugo

The ultimate Rickroll.

No, when 4chan rigged the Mets' voting for new theme song, that was the ultimate Rickroll!

However, the Flintstones were the first to Rickroll people, or rather, Rockrolll people!

197 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:23:40pm

re: #192 laZardo

Oh, I thought you were refusing to click the link I provided above.

FTW!

198 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:23:52pm

re: #155 ggt Hey ggt! I hope you're doing well tonight! Uh, didja check your e-mail lately?!

199 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:24:22pm

*CRANK*

200 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:24:33pm

re: #193 victor_yugo

A political donation from furriners. Isn't that illegal as all hell?

Illegal means nothing when there is no enforcement. Besides, for the left, the ends justify the means.

201 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:24:47pm

re: #173 Strike Hornet

Can someone explain to me what the Walter Annenberg foundation is doing giving William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn 100 million dollars?

Are they COMPLETELY INSANE

My God, what has happened to this world when a foundation of a close personal friend and supporter of Ronald Reagan give a $100 Million grant to two unrepentant domestic terrorists?
Only in the land of Kos could this make any sense (and Chicago of course)...

Look at how the Ford foundation and also how the Heinz money is being spent. Not likely how the people that built that wealth would want it spent. The explanation is when you are dead your useless progeny will f up your wishes.

202 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:25:05pm

re: #193 victor_yugo

A political donation from furriners. Isn't that illegal as all hell?

Look over there! Troopergate!

/msm

203 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:25:14pm

This summer we went to see Circus Smirkus - it's a circus of kids and they tour during the summertime to help groups raise money.

Outstanding entertainment. Highly recommended for kids and adults.

And their clowns were wonderful.
;)

204 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:25:16pm

re: #162 Oldasdirt

Thanks Oldasdirt --both are situations in which the only thing I can do is pray.

205 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:25:26pm

That should take care of things...

206 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:26:05pm

re: #189 Irene NYC

Annenberg Challenge gave $50 million

More like Annenberg Challenged...unbelievable...
Loon is an understatement...
Giving those two murderers $50 million to indoctrinate children to their warped and sick perspective of the world is downright criminal...

207 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:27:04pm

re: #149 Cartman

Gotcha. We were all armed, too. ;) I'll have to post a link sometime to the pics from one of the meetups. It looked like Ohio was about to be invaded. :)

Git it on!

208 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:27:16pm

re: #183 Noam Sayin'
Nanananananannana......... BATMAN! LOL!
Seriously - if y'all been imbibing, and especially if you're on your scooter, give 'em the keys!

209 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:27:58pm

re: #205 Noam Sayin'

That should take care of things...

I can understand the beating, but did you have to crank him? Jeez man.

210 Salem  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:28:07pm

re: #169 victor_yugo

That does explain how he was able to convey so much with only gestures and expressions.

True. He was the world's greatest pantomimist, which is what silent-movie actors are. He would have made the transition to talkies quite nicely, too, but he died shortly after they became the norm. In fact, he was originally cast as Dracula in the original. That would have been cool, though I don't think Bela Lugosi ever would have been discovered.

211 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:28:33pm

re: #200 Syrah

Illegal means nothing when there is no enforcement. Besides, for the left, the ends justify the means.

True, but when they are actually on our soil, they're here only at the pleasure of our State Dept. We need very little excuse to kick their asses out.

212 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:28:44pm

re: #196 gmsc

If you thought that was epic, they're trying to get Rick Astley up for "Best Act Ever" at the MTV Europe Music Awards.

213 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:29:20pm

re: #194 Noam Sayin'
*TOINK* ?!? Uh, oh...................I didn't like the sound of that one!

214 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:30:17pm

re: #179 Bobibutu

Hon - I did not think of that - it is my swan song - you are in a good place.

My point is - if you don't know where the market is going ... why bet on it. There are much safer options.


Having seen the dirty side of financing, my opinion of a lot of what takes place is not very positive. What do you consider safe options? Tonight, I'm grappling with the question of inflation. Specifically, where should we park out wealth for the upcoming inflation - especially if Obama is elected?

215 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:30:49pm

re: #201 Metal Man

Look at how the Ford foundation and also how the Heinz money is being spent. Not likely how the people that built that wealth would want it spent. The explanation is when you are dead your useless progeny will f up your wishes.

These two murderers should be in jail, not spending $100 million on F'ing up young childrens minds with their sick , warped 60's hatred of America...

216 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:31:18pm

Uh...

*stumbles*

Mither realwetht, thir? Noam hath 'thplained thome thingth to me that hath, uh, made me realithe that, I've been a bith dithrethpectful to you, er, uh, thir. I offer my hummle apolitheeze.

*THUD*

217 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:32:04pm

re: #211 victor_yugo

True, but when they are actually on our soil, they're here only at the pleasure of our State Dept. We need very little excuse to kick their asses out.

Another way to look at this is that we will have a group of yutes, possibly dressed in their European party uniforms who will have what to Americans would sound like an odd Germanic accent campaigning for the Oba-Messiah.

There is some comedy here as well.

218 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:32:19pm

re: #216 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet

Uh...

*stumbles*

Mither realwetht, thir? Noam hath 'thplained thome thingth to me that hath, uh, made me realithe that, I've been a bith dithrethpectful to you, er, uh, thir. I offer my hummle apolitheeze.

*THUD*

He's out cold. Quick, get his wallet.

219 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:32:30pm

re: #212 laZardo

If you thought that was epic, they're trying to get Rick Astley up for "Best Act Ever" at the MTV Europe Music Awards.

Did MTV actually start giving a fsck about music again?

220 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:32:32pm

re: #188 capitalist piglet

I suddenly envision Geert Wilders and/or Ayaan Hirsi Ali flying over here and volunteering to help out with the McCain campaign.

221 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:33:20pm

re: #216 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet

Uh...

*stumbles*

Mither realwetht, thir? Noam hath 'thplained thome thingth to me that hath, uh, made me realithe that, I've been a bith dithrethpectful to you, er, uh, thir. I offer my hummle apolitheeze.

*THUD*

Thats some of the best drunk typeing I ever seen..
MORE BEER!

222 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:33:47pm

re: #220 laZardo

I suddenly envision Geert Wilders and/or Ayaan Hirsi Ali flying over here and volunteering to help out with the McCain campaign.

I thought Ayaan Hirsi Ali is already here?

223 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:33:51pm

re: #214 Irene NYC
Uh, I hate to say this, but if Obama's elected there won't be any safe place!
He's gonna grab it ALL.

224 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:23pm

re: #217 Syrah

Another way to look at this is that we will have a group of yutes, possibly dressed in their European party uniforms who will have what to Americans would sound like an odd Germanic accent campaigning for the Oba-Messiah.

There is some comedy here as well.

"You vill like Obama, ja?"

225 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:23pm

I nominate Noam for the Friday Night Drinking Thread Best Entertainment Award!
;)

226 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:25pm

re: #83 Irene NYC

17 children? What was that about?

Seriously I know a French woman how did bear 17 children and was awarded a Mother of the Country award. Her husband left her for a younger woman.

I hope she stomped his ass in court.

227 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:31pm

re: #219 victor_yugo

Probably not in America. MTV Philippines and its big-local-TV-station-run competitor constantly feature lots of local artists. Dunno about Europe.

/competition helps.

228 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:40pm

re: #221 Oldasdirt

Thats some of the best drunk typeing I ever seen..
MORE BEER!

More beer, more beer
You're still too ugly my dear
More beer, more beer
I'm still too sober I fear

229 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:48pm

re: #216 Noam Sayin's Sock Puppet Apology is accepted.
But you still stink!

230 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:54pm

Okay, then.

231 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:34:59pm

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm picturing the scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off where Ferris' sister is freaking out, screaming and crying while kicking the principal in the face three times. LOL!

232 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:35:00pm

Isn't one of the rules of warfare to not give your enemy what they want?

233 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:35:32pm

re: #215 Strike Hornet

I agree just it is how foundations seem to run. The guilty rich children F things up after the capitalists die.

234 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:35:47pm

re: #223 realwest

Uh, I hate to say this, but if Obama's elected there won't be any safe place!
He's gonna grab it ALL.

real,
Remember what happened to money in the bank when Carter was prez? It became worthless real quick. That was really scary. REAL scary.

235 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:36:01pm

re: #225 Irene NYC
I'll glady second that nomination! Just inspired Noam!

236 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:36:02pm

re: #224 Ward Cleaver

"You vill like Obama, ja?"

Ja mein herren!

237 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:36:15pm

re: #231 gop_patriot

I'm picturing the scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off where Ferris' sister is freaking out, screaming and crying while kicking the principal in the face three times. LOL!

PETERSON!

238 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:36:43pm

re: #234 Irene NYC

real,
Remember what happened to money in the bank when Carter was prez? It became worthless real quick. That was really scary. REAL scary.

Yep, stagflation. And The Misery Index.

239 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:37:25pm

re: #222 victor_yugo

I thought Ayaan Hirsi Ali is already here?

She's a fellow at an American think tank, but I don't know if she's based in the US yet.

240 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:37:34pm

re: #238 Ward Cleaver

Yep, stagflation. And The Misery Index.

And yet 41% of voters voted for him over Reagan. Disgusting.

241 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:38:07pm

Too late to stay up. 'Night, all.

242 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:38:27pm

re: #226 MandyManners

I hope she stomped his ass in court.

Mandy,
He tried to kick her out of the house. Can you believe that? She finally got to keep it. He moved into the next town with his young floozy who promptly left him because she couldn't move into the house (which he had promised she could).

Quite the soap opera as the affair and court case went on for over 3 years.

;)

243 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:38:29pm

re: #217 Syrah

Another way to look at this is that we will have a group of yutes, possibly dressed in their European party uniforms who will have what to Americans would sound like an odd Germanic accent campaigning for the Oba-Messiah.

There is some comedy here as well.

"Obama? Any comments on Dutch socialists arriving in America to campaign for you?"
"I know nussing! NUSSING!"

244 realwest  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:38:30pm

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep now!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

245 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:38:44pm
246 welshgirl  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:38:52pm

After what McCain said today, how are we supposed to take him or his campaign seriously anymore?

He can't have astroturfers taking over his townhall, now. Besides, he just said that Zero was a decent human being. There are hundreds of millions of those, but all aren't cut out to be president. That's all he said.

247 Sloppy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:38:57pm

My second ex had a classy clown oufit she wore to school functions, fairs, etc. Very cute, but she was very careful approaching little kids because once in a while one would freak out.

248 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:39:19pm

re: #236 Syrah

Ja mein herren!

"Ja voll, mein Führer!"

249 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:39:19pm

re: #241 Ward Cleaver

Too late to stay up. 'Night, all.

Say goodnight to the Beav for us.

250 HighFlyingCrane  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:39:29pm

This just in --
Joerg Haider dead in Austria, in a car crash.
Pity, that.

251 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:39:50pm
252 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:40:02pm

re: #245 ggt

Sorry, but I recognize that YouTube string from the comic Victor_Yugo passed me. No clicky. (;

253 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:40:20pm

re: #248 victor_yugo

"Ja voll, mein Führer!"

Don't you mean "Die Ein" or "Dass Ein"?

254 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:40:22pm

re: #247 Sloppy

My second ex had a classy clown oufit she wore to school functions, fairs, etc. Very cute, but she was very careful approaching little kids because once in a while one would freak out.

Can we get her to scare off "The Obama Kids"?

255 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:40:23pm

Night real! I'm off soon too.
;)

256 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:40:25pm

Goodnight Real

257 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:41:04pm

re: #225 Irene NYC

I nominate Noam for the Friday Night Drinking Thread Best Entertainment Award!
;)

*bows*

Thank you. The 'internet theater' thing is one of the attributes that made me fall in love with this blog. I still remember fondly some of the early characters, here.

That's high praise.

258 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:41:23pm

re: #240 Hard Right

And yet 41% of voters voted for him over Reagan. Disgusting.

I had an aunt and uncle, great salt-of-the earth people who I dearly loved (farm family, who've passed on in the last couple of years) that voted for Carter simply because he was a Baptist, just like them.

259 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:41:31pm

re: #242 Irene NYC

Mandy,
He tried to kick her out of the house. Can you believe that? She finally got to keep it. He moved into the next town with his young floozy who promptly left him because she couldn't move into the house (which he had promised she could).

Quite the soap opera as the affair and court case went on for over 3 years.

;)

Awesome karma!

260 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:41:58pm

re: #250 HighFlyingCrane

This just in --
Joerg Haider dead in Austria, in a car crash.
Pity, that.

Was he run off the road?

261 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:42:16pm

re: #257 Noam Sayin'

*bows*

Thank you. The 'internet theater' thing is one of the attributes that made me fall in love with this blog. I still remember fondly some of the early characters, here.

That's high praise.

It was meant to be. Thank you for the smiles. Today is a day that will live in the history books.
;)

262 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:42:40pm

re: #258 Ward Cleaver

I had an aunt and uncle, great salt-of-the earth people who I dearly loved (farm family, who've passed on in the last couple of years) that voted for Carter simply because he was a Baptist, just like them.

Did they regret the vote?

263 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:42:52pm

Trying to decide whether to go to the gun show tomorrow. I'd like to buy a Ruger 10-22 and a Ruger Mini-14. I'd rather hold onto my cash, but both candidates say they'll close the gun show loophole. I do have until January 20, though.

Decisions, decisions.

264 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:42:55pm

re: #246 welshgirl

After what McCain said today, how are we supposed to take him or his campaign seriously anymore?

He can't have astroturfers taking over his townhall, now. Besides, he just said that Zero was a decent human being. There are hundreds of millions of those, but all aren't cut out to be president. That's all he said.

So you're another one who's not thinking this through.

What McCain did today was to NOT give the msm and leftist a club with which to beat him.

265 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:43:15pm

re: #173 Strike Hornet

We're living in the world of Alice in Wonderland. Up is down, right is wrong. I'll go to my grave trying to figure out how some, not all of us, got so twisted. Unfortunately they seem to be in charge.......

266 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:43:45pm

re: #254 Strike Hornet

Can we get her to scare off "The Obama Kids"?

Just shoot off a clip from an M16. That'll make them piss their pants.

267 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:44:09pm

re: #258 Ward Cleaver

CNN International had an article a few days back that had potential for irony: the more conservative family values among black evangelical voters mobilized by Obama could also make it more likely to get gay marriage bans (e.g. Prop 8, CA) passed.

So...I won't be racist if I vote Obama, but I will be a homophobe. WTH.

268 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:44:24pm

re: #266 Ward Cleaver

Just shoot off a clip from an M16. That'll make them piss their pants.

A cap gun would have the same effect.

269 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:44:54pm

re: #263 Palandine

Trying to decide whether to go to the gun show tomorrow. I'd like to buy a Ruger 10-22 and a Ruger Mini-14. I'd rather hold onto my cash, but both candidates say they'll close the gun show loophole. I do have until January 20, though.

Decisions, decisions.

Just a thought,A M1 carbine is as good to me as a Mini-14,It's30 cal.and much cheaper.

270 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:45:25pm

re: #253 gmsc

My ex said that to a German cop. Damn near got herself thrown in jail for it.

/the world would have been a better place

271 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:45:40pm

re: #263 Palandine

If things go to crap the mini 14 will be of greater value. Don't scrimp on the ammo.

272 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:45:47pm

re: #242 Irene NYC

Mandy,
He tried to kick her out of the house. Can you believe that? She finally got to keep it. He moved into the next town with his young floozy who promptly left him because she couldn't move into the house (which he had promised she could).

Quite the soap opera as the affair and court case went on for over 3 years.

;)

Wait a minute. He tried to kick her and all those kids out of their house?

I wonder how much CS he has to pay.

273 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:45:57pm

re: #269 Oldasdirt

Just a thought,A M1 carbine is as good to me as a Mini-14,It's30 cal.and much cheaper.

The 14 fires .223. More potent.

274 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:47:00pm

re: #253 gmsc

Don't you mean "Die Ein" or "Dass Ein"?

What does that mean?

275 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:47:18pm

I just put a time line together for the publishing dates of Ayer's own books and matched it against that of Obama's and found that Obama's books were published at the end of long breaks in between Ayer's own published books. I posted the full thing above in the spin off links, but thought that the night lizards would like to see it here also.

[Link: experimentumcrucis.blogspot.com...]

276 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:47:18pm

re: #261 Irene NYC

When you have a chance, look back through the archives for 12/23 of '05 - FNDT. Holy shit, that was a hoot. We were all piss-drunk and laughing our asses off until deep into the night.

277 quickredfox  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:47:27pm

re: #265 LGoPs

We're living in the world of Alice in Wonderland.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

278 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:47:34pm

re: #272 MandyManners

Wait a minute. He tried to kick her and all those kids out of their house?

I wonder how much CS he has to pay.

No CS, most of the kids are over 18. Something like 6 still live at home (it changes - as you can imagine - on practically a daily basis). But what a scandal for a small French village! Ooh la la!
;)

279 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:47:53pm

re: #274 MandyManners

What does that mean?

"The One."

280 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:48:00pm

re: #274 MandyManners

What does that mean?

"Die Ein"="The One"
"Dass Ein"="That One"

281 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:48:12pm

re: #269 Oldasdirt

Just a thought,A M1 carbine is as good to me as a Mini-14,It's30 cal.and much cheaper.

True that, but I have a Henry .22 rifle right now that I'm not crazy about, and an AR-15, which I love. For now, I'd like to have extras that shoot the ammo I already have: .22 LR and 5.56. I just don't want to diversify into all different kinds of ammo.

282 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:48:31pm

re: #263 Palandine

Trying to decide whether to go to the gun show tomorrow.

Dude...

283 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:48:40pm

re: #264 Sharmuta

So you're another one who's not thinking this through.

What McCain did today was to NOT give the msm and leftist a club with which to beat him.

Unfortunately they've shown that they don't really need to be given anything. They're quite happy to make things up. Agree, however, that we don't need to give them extra ammo......

284 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:48:48pm

re: #274 MandyManners

What does that mean?

Variations on "The One".

285 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:48:49pm

re: #273 Hard Right

The 14 fires .223. More potent.

True,,but he seemed to be worried bout money,,and the M-1 is a good weapon in a pinch,,and real cheap. Ammo is also cheaper.

286 Sloppy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:49:06pm

Back in the day I wished I had an M1 carbine because it looked easier to maintain, more fun to shoot and lighter to carry around than the Garand. No way, though; the Army made my weapons choices for me.

287 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:49:11pm

re: #281 Palandine

True that, but I have a Henry .22 rifle right now that I'm not crazy about, and an AR-15, which I love. For now, I'd like to have extras that shoot the ammo I already have: .22 LR and 5.56. I just don't want to diversify into all different kinds of ammo.

Mini 14 and used 10/22 would be the way to go then.

288 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:49:32pm

re: #282 Noam Sayin'

Dude...

Girl, actually... ;)

289 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:49:37pm

re: #265 LGoPs

We're living in the world of Alice in Wonderland. Up is down, right is wrong. I'll go to my grave trying to figure out how some, not all of us, got so twisted. Unfortunately they seem to be in charge.......

It's very simple. Civilization is actually a thin veneer. We got so rich and sloppy that we took our eye off the ball. When we did that, the barbarians started to take advantage of our niceness. End of story.

290 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:49:41pm

re: #277 quickredfox

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

"The time has come," the walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of ships, and shoes, and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings. Of why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings."

291 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:50:19pm

re: #285 Oldasdirt

True,,but he seemed to be worried bout money,,and the M-1 is a good weapon in a pinch,,and real cheap. Ammo is also cheaper.

The 14 was my weapon of choice while hunting prairie dogs back in CO! Loved it and wasted many ammo boxes of rounds just blowing the crap out of little dirt mounds and fur balls!

292 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:50:31pm

re: #285 Oldasdirt

True,,but he seemed to be worried bout money,,and the M-1 is a good weapon in a pinch,,and real cheap. Ammo is also cheaper.

I see them going for about $500-$600. Big 5 wants 1K for them!
The mini is about $600-$700

293 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:51:07pm

re: #288 Palandine

Girl, actually... ;)

You don't say.
So how you doin' ? ;)

294 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:51:18pm

re: #278 Irene NYC

No CS, most of the kids are over 18. Something like 6 still live at home (it changes - as you can imagine - on practically a daily basis). But what a scandal for a small French village! Ooh la la!
;)

I hope he was mocked. With vigor.

295 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:51:21pm

re: #262 Hard Right

Did they regret the vote?

I don't know; I never brought it up. This was in 1976, and I was just 16. I think they voted for Reagan in '80. I know I did.

296 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:51:25pm

re: #273 Hard Right

The 14 fires .223. More potent.

An Ak also shoots a 30 cal and is cheap or used to be.

A gun collection is built like a house IMHO foundation is cheap and sturdy then add on pieces are to taste.

297 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:51:26pm

20/20 was frightening tonight...showed all of the college kids the Obama campaign has registered to vote...20/20 asked them basic questions like "how many states are there in the US, how many Senators in the Senate, can you name the last President, name one Supreme Court Justice and other basic questions...
Blank stares...

298 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:51:33pm

re: #284 Syrah

Variations on "The One".

"No, officer, it's not a threat. It doesn't say 'Die, Obama, Die'. It's German for 'The, Obama, The'."

"That seems reasonable. No one who speaks German could be a bad man."

299 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:51:57pm

Does "The One" refer to Hitler?

300 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:52:01pm

re: #265 LGoPs

We're living in the world of Alice in Wonderland. Up is down, right is wrong.

...and MILFs are terrorists.

/at least where I live, which is technically the other side of the world from most of you. >_>

301 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:52:38pm

re: #295 Ward Cleaver

I don't know; I never brought it up. This was in 1976, and I was just 16. I think they voted for Reagan in '80. I know I did.

Good. Still, 41% of voters did not vote for Reagan. They still seem to be around.

302 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:52:44pm

re: #283 LGoPs

That's the point- we don't hand them what they want.

People stand up- "we're scared, he's an arab".

WTF is he supposed to say to that?!

I tell you what we DON'T do- we don't hand them our heads on a silver platter, that's what.

303 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:52:55pm

re: #281 Palandine

True that, but I have a Henry .22 rifle right now that I'm not crazy about, and an AR-15, which I love. For now, I'd like to have extras that shoot the ammo I already have: .22 LR and 5.56. I just don't want to diversify into all different kinds of ammo.

That is a good deal then..same reason i have a Springfield 30.6 bolt acton
and a Fabricque Nathonal simi 30.6 auto.All my hand guns are .45 cal.

304 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:52:59pm

re: #299 MandyManners

Does "The One" refer to Hitler?

No, Obama.

305 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:53:00pm

re: #276 Noam Sayin'

When you have a chance, look back through the archives for 12/23 of '05 - FNDT. Holy shit, that was a hoot. We were all piss-drunk and laughing our asses off until deep into the night.

Actually, I lurked a lot then. But I'll go back and take a look see. Thanks for the reminder, Noam.

306 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:53:13pm

re: #290 gmsc

"The time has come," the walrus said, "to speak of many things. Of ships, and shoes, and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings. Of why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings."

Off with her head!

307 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:53:17pm

re: #289 Irene NYC

It's very simple. Civilization is actually a thin veneer. We got so rich and sloppy that we took our eye off the ball. When we did that, the barbarians started to take advantage of our niceness. End of story.

Agreed. I think a lot of the crap that arose in the 60's was the result of parents of the greatest generation trying to make it easier on their kids, with the unintended consequence of spoiling the shit out of them. And we're paying the price since and especially now. Not all of us were spoiled. We need to man the ramparts. Eternal vigilance and all that.........

308 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:53:25pm

If I go, I'll probably pick up the 10-22. Infinite amounts of schwag one can add to it, if one wants, and if things really go to hell, it'll take bunnies, squirrels, etc. pretty well. Also cheap, as is .22 LR ammo, and I'd like to keep a cushion of cash while thigs sort themselves out.

309 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:53:35pm

re: #296 Metal Man

An Ak also shoots a 30 cal and is cheap or used to be.

A gun collection is built like a house IMHO foundation is cheap and sturdy then add on pieces are to taste.

True, but a little less stigma with the mini-14.

310 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:53:59pm

re: #298 gmsc

"No, officer, it's not a threat. It doesn't say 'Die, Obama, Die'. It's German for 'The, Obama, The'."

"That seems reasonable. No one who speaks German could be a bad man."

We will all have to be careful in the Brave New World.

It would be a shame to end up pumped full of Soma for an errant remark of no meaning.

Our end should be glorious and meaningful, not an accident.

311 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:54:03pm

re: #198 realwest

just did and replied :)

312 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:54:10pm

re: #275 lone_wolf_in_illinois

I just put a time line together for the publishing dates of Ayer's own books and matched it against that of Obama's and found that Obama's books were published at the end of long breaks in between Ayer's own published books. I posted the full thing above in the spin off links, but thought that the night lizards would like to see it here also.

[Link: experimentumcrucis.blogspot.com...]

Terrific bit of investigative work there, lone wolf. Kudos. Hope it gets out there. Good luck.

313 quickredfox  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:54:13pm

re: #290 gmsc

"The time has come," the walrus said . . ."

It must have been close to brillig.

314 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:54:40pm

re: #293 Hard Right

You don't say.
So how you doin' ? ;)

I've had better weeks, but a country girl can survive. ;)

315 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:54:56pm

re: #299 MandyManners

Does "The One" refer to Hitler?

It refers to the Oba-messiah being referred to as "the One".

316 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:55:03pm

re: #294 MandyManners

I hope he was mocked. With vigor.


You got your wish, Mandy!
;)

317 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:55:04pm

Don't get me wrong folks- I know it's not what we want to hear, but we are the choir, so to speak.

McCain is talking to the middle- the undecideds, and if you think they'll rally to us with a message of fear and race baiting, then I think you're wrong.

318 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:55:22pm

re: #292 Hard Right

I see them going for about $500-$600. Big 5 wants 1K for them!
The mini is about $600-$700

I see the M-1 here in Ft.Worth gun shows at $200.

319 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:55:29pm

re: #313 quickredfox

It must have been close to brillig.

"The mome rath isn't born that could outgrabe me."

320 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:55:54pm

bbl

321 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:56:14pm

re: #314 Palandine

I've had better weeks, but a country girl can survive. ;)

I hear you. Same here, but I'm stuck in the burbs.
You have good taste in firearms, btw.

322 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:56:44pm

What Bill Clinton said recently about Barney Frank, Dems, and Fannie Mae:

Three years later, President Clinton’s Department of Housing and Urban Development tried to impose a new regulation on Fannie, but was thwarted by Frank. Clinton now blames such Democrats for planting the seeds of today’s economic crisis.

"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac," Clinton said recently.

Link here.

323 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:57:01pm

re: #318 Oldasdirt

I see the M-1 here in Ft.Worth gun shows at $200.

And they aren't rods of rust?! I need to go to Texas!

324 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:57:02pm

re: #296 Metal Man

An Ak also shoots a 30 cal and is cheap or used to be.

A gun collection is built like a house IMHO foundation is cheap and sturdy then add on pieces are to taste.

I'm still learning, but I thought AKs shot 7.62 X 39...

325 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:57:03pm

re: #288 Palandine

Girl, actually... ;)

Oops. Really?

*checks*

Yep.

Go anyway. If it were a Twin Cities gun show, I'd say I'll meet you there. Then we can go shoe-shopping after that.

Come to think of it. I am in the market for frangible rounds...

326 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:57:22pm

re: #307 LGoPs

At least back in the 60s they had something to rebel against (see the Civil Rights Movement). Today, rebellion is now "in," which kinda defeats the purpose of the whole thing.

/was born in 1987, what do I know? D:

327 Salem  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:57:28pm

re: #302 Sharmuta

That's the point- we don't hand them what they want.

People stand up- "we're scared, he's an arab".

WTF is he supposed to say to that?!

I tell you what we DON'T do- we don't hand them our heads on a silver platter, that's what.

I can admit I overreacted to this but I didn't get the context until later. Fox dropped the ball on that one.

328 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:58:02pm

re: #324 Palandine

I'm still learning, but I thought AKs shot 7.62 X 39...

Exactly. Plus there is the "evil rifle" issue to deal with should you shoot someone.

329 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:58:03pm

re: #317 Sharmuta

I agree. You are correct.

I think that the frustration that you are countering is derived more from a desire to see McCain campaign from his strengths then from what sounds like an apology.

330 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:58:18pm

re: #301 Hard Right

Good. Still, 41% of voters did not vote for Reagan. They still seem to be around.

Some, anyway. It was 28 years ago.

331 Clemente  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:58:28pm

re: #218 Hard Right

He's out cold. Quick, get his wallet.

Huh. Nothin' there but 390 pesos, an ACORN volunteer ID for "Jim Treacher", and a video store receipt.

332 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:58:51pm

re: #251 gmsc

ahhhhhgahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

333 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:59:23pm

re: #331 Clemente

Huh. Nothin' there but 390 pesos, an ACORN volunteer ID for "Jim Treacher", and a video store receipt.

In that case.....kick him a few times.

334 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 10:59:55pm

re: #330 Ward Cleaver

Some, anyway. It was 28 years a while ago.

Let's not be too explicit about how old you're making us look!

335 MrSnuggles  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:00:17pm

re: #6 jcm

I would so go down there and video tape this shit if i didn't have seahawks season tickets.

336 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:00:44pm

re: #301 Hard Right

Good. Still, 41% of voters did not vote for Reagan. They still seem to be around.

And they had kids! GAHHH!

337 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:01:16pm

re: #334 victor_yugo

Let's not be too explicit about how old you're making us look!

I was just pointing out that some have passed on.

338 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:01:19pm

re: #336 Strike Hornet

And they had kids! GAHHH!

Somone peed in their gene pool.

339 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:01:31pm

re: #329 Syrah

And I do understand that- I'm just as frustrated as others.

But is what he said today going to stop any of us from voting for him? Or voting "against" 0bama? I doubt it. But what it might do is keep some people's minds open to him so he can convince them he's the better man for the job. Anything that could be used to paint him as fear mongering and/or race baiting, and it's over.

340 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:01:50pm

re: #336 Strike Hornet

And they had kids! GAHHH!

Well, some of the kids became rebellious in their young adulthood and are voting for McCain.

341 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:02:35pm

re: #326 laZardo

At least back in the 60s they had something to rebel against (see the Civil Rights Movement). Today, rebellion is now "in," which kinda defeats the purpose of the whole thing.

/was born in 1987, what do I know? D:

I'd love to turn the tables on them and rebel against them, now that they're in charge. They were brought up on questioning authority and I sure as hell question theirs. I also know that if their authority was questioned they'd freak out like the true fascists they are......unfortunately i have a friggin' job to go to so I don't have time. But they're pushing real hard....

342 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:03:25pm

re: #323 Hard Right

And they aren't rods of rust?! I need to go to Texas!

One I have looks brand new and shoots sweet.Even has a cherry wood stock on it.The other one was in a plastic bag covered in gun greese.The stock is almost black,from the greese and I do not know what type of wood.Both in good shape.I would trust them with my life.And do.

343 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:03:34pm

re: #309 Hard Right

True, but a little less stigma with the mini-14.

My collection includes the AK mostly because it is the only thing commies do well and at the time ammo was cheap enough to hoard. I have a 10-22 for plinking and a Seiko 30-06 for hunting. I also have several other guns I like for specific reasons.

344 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:04:42pm

re: #326 laZardo

Born in 1987. Do you know how old that makes me feel?

345 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:05:07pm

re: #327 Salem

I can admit I overreacted to this but I didn't get the context until later. Fox dropped the ball on that one.

Me too. I was at work and the video was blocked so I missed the context as well.....

346 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:05:11pm

re: #342 Oldasdirt

One I have looks brand new and shoots sweet.Even has a cherry wood stock on it.The other one was in a plastic bag covered in gun greese.The stock is almost black,from the greese and I do not know what type of wood.Both in good shape.I would trust them with my life.And do.

Real M1s? Not some repro? I see them go for $500 here in AZ. Hell, I saw some repro for $400 in a shop and I later found they were crap when I looked online.

347 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:05:58pm

re: #343 Metal Man

My collection includes the AK mostly because it is the only thing commies do well and at the time ammo was cheap enough to hoard. I have a 10-22 for plinking and a Seiko 30-06 for hunting. I also have several other guns I like for specific reasons.

I'm not bashing AKs. That would be hypocritical on my part. :)

348 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:07:14pm

re: #344 ggt

Born in 1987. Do you know how old that makes me feel?

Gaaaa. I was in high school. Where's my Geritol?

349 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:08:23pm

re: #348 Hard Right

High School? Nice.

350 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:08:35pm

re: #324 Palandine

I'm still learning, but I thought AKs shot 7.62 X 39...

7.62mm is really close to .308 inches and also then close to 30 cal which is .30 inches.

351 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:08:46pm

re: #344 ggt

No...but I suspect you'd feel about the same as me having to cope with being the youngest Lizard so far. >_>

/you're all so big and tall...someday I'll be just as tall as you guys! [;

352 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:08:47pm

re: #348 Hard Right

Gaaaa. I was in high school. Where's my Geritol?

Hell, I was in the Army in Germany....I must be dead by now

:)

353 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:09:31pm

re: #339 Sharmuta

I hope that in the next debate, McCain will grab Obama by his acorns and beat him over the head with them.

McCain has nothing to lose at this point by being aggressive. He needs to show the great middle why they should move to him.

Whenever a candidate is moving to the middle, he is giving ground.

McCain is now in a position where his only option left is to fight as if winning matters.

I am pulling for him. I think he has it in him. He just needs to show the rest of the world that he has it.

354 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:09:35pm

re: #352 LGoPs

Hell, I was in the Army in Germany....I must be dead by now

:)

You're quite active for a dead man. You don't usually see that.
//

355 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:11:04pm

The local news tonight starts with:
Governor Sarah Palin Abused Her Power...
That is what a report from a bipartisan panel in Alaska concluded...

Then they go to a short stringer report from Alaska and then conclude with:
But, the report also said she did nothing illegal and the firing was completely within her power as Governor...

What the hell does that mean?

The insanity continues...

356 jonathan1984  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:11:35pm

re: #353 Syrah

You could say McCain should have done that last week, though. I'm not yet convinced he will - he should, but will he?

357 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:12:10pm

re: #344 ggt

Born in 1987. Do you know how old that makes me feel?

I know what you mean. I felt old when I learned that this year's college freshmen were so young that:

Harry Potter could be a classmate, playing on their Quidditch team.

Since they were in diapers, karaoke machines have been annoying people at parties.

They have always been looking for Carmen Sandiego.

GPS satellite navigation systems have always been available.

Coke and Pepsi have always used recycled plastic bottles.

Shampoo and conditioner have always been available in the same bottle.

Gas stations have never fixed flats, but most serve cappuccino.

Their parents may have dropped them in shock when they heard George Bush announce “tax revenue increases.”

Electronic filing of tax returns has always been an option.

Girls in head scarves have always been part of the school fashion scene.

All have had a relative--or known about a friend's relative--who died comfortably at home with Hospice.

As a precursor to “whatever,” they have recognized that some people “just don’t get it.”

Universal Studios has always offered an alternative to Mickey in Orlando.

Grandma has always had wheels on her walker.

Martha Stewart Living has always been setting the style.

Haagen-Dazs ice cream has always come in quarts.

Club Med resorts have always been places to take the whole family.

WWW has never stood for World Wide Wrestling.

Films have never been X rated, only NC-17.

The Warsaw Pact is as hazy for them as the League of Nations was for their parents.

Students have always been "Rocking the Vote.”

Clarence Thomas has always sat on the Supreme Court.

Schools have always been concerned about multiculturalism.

We have always known that “All I Ever Really Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten.”

There have always been gay rabbis.

Wayne Newton has never had a mustache.

College grads have always been able to Teach for America.

IBM has never made typewriters.

Roseanne Barr has never been invited to sing the National Anthem again.

McDonald’s and Burger King have always used vegetable oil for cooking french fries.

They have never been able to color a tree using a raw umber Crayola.

There has always been Pearl Jam.

The Tonight Show has always been hosted by Jay Leno and started at 11:35 EST.

Pee-Wee has never been in his playhouse during the day.

They never tasted Benefit Cereal with psyllium.

They may have been given a Nintendo Game Boy to play with in the crib.

Authorities have always been building a wall along the Mexican border.

Lenin’s name has never been on a major city in Russia.

Employers have always been able to do credit checks on employees.

Balsamic vinegar has always been available in the U.S.

Macaulay Culkin has always been Home Alone.

Their parents may have watched The American Gladiators on TV the day they were born.

Personal privacy has always been threatened.

Caller ID has always been available on phones.

Living wills have always been asked for at hospital check-ins.

The Green Bay Packers (almost) always had the same starting quarterback.

They never heard an attendant ask “Want me to check under the hood?”

358 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:12:39pm

re: #353 Syrah

I truly believe that a lot of people are going to get into that voting booth, linger, and then vote for McCain. You don't vote for an untested person in times like these. It may go down to the wire, but I still believe McCain's got a good chance--he's been in politics so long that all the dirt on him is already known, while there's still time to make the country aware of the hard-core liberal Obama is.

359 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:12:41pm

re: #341 LGoPs

That's what the ballot is for, thankfully. That and the youth don't generally tend to turn out in droves. Hell, with all these Obama Youth videos, apparently he isn't exactly helping his situation by reaching out to people who won't even be old enough to volunteer in voting precincts in November. LOL.

/volunteered as a poll worker in 2004, was but 17 then

360 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:12:49pm

re: #346 Hard Right

Real M1s? Not some repro? I see them go for $500 here in AZ. Hell, I saw some repro for $400 in a shop and I later found they were crap when I looked online.

Real army issue.Now that price was good last year,,Have not been in around a year.

361 Clemente  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:13:06pm

re: #348 Hard Right

Born in 1987. Do you know how old that makes me feel?

Gaaaa. I was in high school. Where's my Geritol?

By '87, high school was, for me, little more than an habitually-repressed memory...

362 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:13:07pm

re: #350 Metal Man

7.62mm is really close to .308 inches and also then close to 30 cal which is .30 inches.

Thing is she doesn't want to stock up on another caliber of ammo. I can relate to that.

Me?
.22, .380, 7.62x25, 9mm, .40, .45, 7.62x39, 7.5x55, 7.62x54, 8x56

363 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:13:14pm

Feeling old, Part II:

Iced tea has always come in cans and bottles.
Soft drink refills have always been free.

They have never known life without Seinfeld references from a show about “nothing.”

Windows 3.0 operating system made IBM PCs user-friendly the year they were born.

Muscovites have always been able to buy Big Macs.

The Royal New Zealand Navy has never been permitted a daily ration of rum.

The Hubble Space Telescope has always been eavesdropping on the heavens.

98.6 F or otherwise has always been confirmed in the ear.

Michael Milken has always been a philanthropist promoting prostate cancer research.

Off-shore oil drilling in the United States has always been prohibited.

Radio stations have never been required to present both sides of public issues.

There have always been charter schools.

Students always had Goosebumps.

364 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:13:17pm

re: #347 Hard Right

My dream gun is an M4 variant in .308. I like my AK like a hammer a basic cheap tool. And my point is just when you are starting a collection buy the tool you can afford that will get the job done.

365 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:13:40pm

re: #356 jonathan1984

Cross your fingers and knock on some wood.

My preference is for a Palin '16 campaign over a Palin '12 campaign.

366 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:13:48pm

re: #358 Palandine

I truly believe that a lot of people are going to get into that voting booth, linger, and then vote for McCain. You don't vote for an untested person in times like these. It may go down to the wire, but I still believe McCain's got a good chance--he's been in politics so long that all the dirt on him is already known, while there's still time to make the country aware of the hard-core liberal Obama is.

My sentiments exactly Palandine

367 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:14:10pm

re: #344 ggt

Born in 1987. Do you know how old that makes me feel?

So, you were born while I was attending my first year of college? You're a kid!

368 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:14:40pm

re: #351 laZardo

Baby Lizard huh?

I take fresh coffee with cream and sugar.

369 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:14:46pm

re: #352 LGoPs

Hell, I was in the Army in Germany....I must be dead by now

:)

And just exactly how many times are you planning to vote on Nov. 4?
;)

370 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:14:57pm

re: #360 Oldasdirt

Real army issue.Now that price was good last year,,Have not been in around a year.

I'd pay $300 for one, but not much more. Maybe I'll vacation in Texas this year...

371 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:15:20pm

re: #367 gmsc

Not me, LaZardo.

I won't say how old I was in 1987.

372 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:16:00pm

re: #362 Hard Right

Thing is she doesn't want to stock up on another caliber of ammo. I can relate to that.

Me?
.22, .380, 7.62x25, 9mm, .40, .45, 7.62x39, 7.5x55, 7.62x54, 8x56

.22 LR, .38, 5.56, 12 gauge

If The One wins, he may make ammo prohibitively expensive, rather than ban guns outright, at least at first. Four types is enough for me now.

373 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:16:08pm

re: #344 ggt

Born in 1987. Do you know how old that makes me feel?

Oh, sweetie! That was when i left for missions training! I was born in 1962.

Funny how we see each other?!

374 LeePro  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:16:49pm

re: #348 Hard Right

Gaaaa. I was in high school. Where's my Geritol?

You can't say "Gaaaa" and "Where's my Geritol?" in the same sitting! In 1987 I was already married for 3 years to my second (first and only REAL) husband. My KIDS just graduated from high school! ! !

Buck up, sweetie. You've got a long row to hoe!

375 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:17:05pm

re: #364 Metal Man

My dream gun is an M4 variant in .308. I like my AK like a hammer a basic cheap tool. And my point is just when you are starting a collection buy the tool you can afford that will get the job done.

I hear you. I got some AK parts kits when they were under $100 still. Fun, fun rifles.

376 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:17:53pm

re: #355 Strike Hornet

The local news tonight starts with:
Governor Sarah Palin Abused Her Power...
That is what a report from a bipartisan panel in Alaska concluded...

Then they go to a short stringer report from Alaska and then conclude with:
But, the report also said she did nothing illegal and the firing was completely within her power as Governor...

What the hell does that mean?

The insanity continues...


It means they can report whatever the hell they want and there's not shit we can do about it. Of course we see the manipulation but the undecided, unengaged ones among us - the ones that ultimately decide the election, the ones who are swayed by the last thing they see on TV before they head out the door to vote - they do get influenced by this.....sheesh.

The media is actively undermining our electoral process and they do it with impunity. They are domestic enemies and it burns the hell out of me that they get away with it.

377 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:19:10pm

re: #372 Palandine

.22 LR, .38, 5.56, 12 gauge

If The One wins, he may make ammo prohibitively expensive, rather than ban guns outright, at least at first. Four types is enough for me now.

Hence my rush to buy it now. There are times I wish I'd done what you had-stick with fewer calibers.

378 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:19:20pm

re: #357 gmsc

Because I've been tempted to fill it out like an online blog meme thingy...

Harry Potter could be a classmate, playing on their Quidditch team. Read through Book 4 every day on the way to school, suddenly lost interest starting with Book 5.

Since they were in diapers, karaoke machines have been annoying people at parties.

They have always been looking for Carmen Sandiego. I was the only one I know in my school who ever caught her. BOOYAH!

GPS satellite navigation systems have always been available.

Coke and Pepsi have always used recycled plastic bottles.

Shampoo and conditioner have always been available in the same bottle.

Gas stations have never fixed flats, but most serve cappuccino.

Their parents may have dropped them in shock when they heard George Bush announce “tax revenue increases.” 1987 was late Reagan, thankfully.

Girls in head scarves have always been part of the school fashion scene. Not really... but men in "peace scarves..." HRRRRRRRRGH.

Macaulay Culkin has always been Home Alone. Never got why he wasn't in 3.

Their parents may have watched The American Gladiators on TV the day they were born. I had the lunchbox. (:

The Green Bay Packers (almost) always had the same starting quarterback. The San Francisco 49ers were the shit back when I was a kid. Ah, glory days... ;_;

Of course, I moved to Manila starting from the 1st Grade, and I ended up "behind the times," hence the lack of the rest of the meme...

379 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:19:28pm

Clowns--don't trust 'em. To damned happy.

380 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:19:31pm

re: #353 Syrah

I hope that in the next debate, McCain will grab Obama by his acorns and beat him over the head with them.

The ACORN stuff is not going away and it's possible that McCain might not need to do the heavy lifting. We'll have to see how much lifting the FBI might do. Regardless- the ACORN fraud is in the news, and all we have to do is put it in peoples' minds that ACORN is linked to 0bama.

I am hopeful about the ACORN business, because the PUMAs are really pissed. I always figured there would be hell to pay for crossing Hillary, and knew it was never a good idea to get between a Clinton and the White House.

McCain needs to sell himself. Tell America that American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs and improve our security and economy, and I really people people will move towards him. Tie 0bama to ACORN and people will move away from 0bama.

381 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:20:15pm

re: #297 Strike Hornet

20/20 was frightening tonight...showed all of the college kids the Obama campaign has registered to vote...20/20 asked them basic questions like "how many states are there in the US, how many Senators in the Senate, can you name the last President, name one Supreme Court Justice and other basic questions...
Blank stares...

But if we don't hold their hands, register them seventy-two times each, drive them to the polls and buy them cigarettes and booze, they'll be disenfranchised...and that would be bad.

382 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:20:30pm

re: #377 Hard Right

Hence my rush to buy it now. There are times I wish I'd done what you had-stick with fewer calibers.

You could insert them manually--into the target, I mean.

It's the wine talking now, BTW.

383 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:21:08pm

re: #368 ggt

I still feel a bit old in that whenever I go into a Starbucks I talk in "Small/Medium/Large" rather than those "Grande/Venti/wtfever" terms they have.

/I'm a 90s kid...but not a 2000s kid. I feel so "out."

384 LGoPs  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:21:09pm

re: #359 laZardo

That's what the ballot is for, thankfully. That and the youth don't generally tend to turn out in droves. Hell, with all these Obama Youth videos, apparently he isn't exactly helping his situation by reaching out to people who won't even be old enough to volunteer in voting precincts in November. LOL.

/volunteered as a poll worker in 2004, was but 17 then

Agreed. But I am truly afraid of them actually stealing the election this time. If it's close - a couple of percent - they might be able to do it. And they have demonstrated intent and capability to do it.

385 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:21:24pm

ok, guys, I know it's the FNDT, and you know I love guns, BUT do you really want the whole world to know what you have?

386 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:21:54pm

re: #374 LeePro

You can't say "Gaaaa" and "Where's my Geritol?" in the same sitting! In 1987 I was already married for 3 years to my second (first and only REAL) husband. My KIDS just graduated from high school! ! !

Buck up, sweetie. You've got a long row to hoe!

Hopefully that's the case. The world the kids from that period have entered into is so different from when I came in. You'd think it was 50 years between them insted of a decade+.

387 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:21:58pm

re: #381 capitalist piglet

Argh. Makes me want to quit my day job and be a history teacher to kids other than my own.

388 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:22:06pm

re: #373 Intrepid

1962? Curious as to how exposed you were to the "revolutions" of the period as a kid. I got irradiated with eco-friendly in elementary...

389 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:22:14pm

re: #383 laZardo

get out! Small/Medium/Large--hrumpf!

Venti Mocha!

390 Clemente  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:23:08pm

re: #357 gmsc

The Berlin Wall disappeared with their diapers.

391 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:23:15pm

re: #382 calcajun

You could insert them manually--into the target, I mean.

It's the wine talking now, BTW.

I can't throw that hard. Bummer.
7 3/4 beers here.

392 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:24:02pm

re: #385 ggt

ok, guys, I know it's the FNDT, and you know I love guns, BUT do you really want the whole world to know what you have?

Wise. I'm counting on folks not knowing who I am. Still, point taken. :)

/And most places are a little, teensy-weensy, tiny bit more legally laid back about boomsticks than the far western suburbs of Chicagoland... ;)

393 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:24:24pm

re: #389 ggt

These days I just say "fuck it" and order the blended cream. :9

394 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:24:49pm

Yes- I am hopeful!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

God bless the PUMAs- they will drag us across the finish line.

As I said before:

You Fool! You fell victim for one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known is this- never go in against a Sicilian Clinton when death the White House is on the line!

Believe it.

395 LeePro  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:25:11pm

re: #355 Strike Hornet

The local news tonight starts with:
Governor Sarah Palin Abused Her Power...
That is what a report from a bipartisan panel in Alaska concluded...

Then they go to a short stringer report from Alaska and then conclude with:
But, the report also said she did nothing illegal and the firing was completely within her power as Governor...

What the hell does that mean?

The insanity continues...

Also, in Charles's post here, the LAST two paragraphs in the story are...

Lawmakers indicated they planned to release the report even though there was disagreement about its findings.

"I think there are some problems in this report," Republican state Sen. Gary Stevens. "I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye."

396 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:25:22pm

re: #392 Palandine

Wise. I'm counting on folks not knowing who I am. Still, point taken. :)

/And most places are a little, teensy-weensy, tiny bit more legally laid back about boomsticks than the far western suburbs of Chicagoland... ;)

Not too worried. Listing the calibers doesn't say what I have or how many etc.

397 jonathan1984  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:25:36pm

re: #358 Palandine

The scary part? How many of those will hear that Obama's a liberal and think either, "So what?" or, "That's great."

398 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:26:15pm

Age,and what i remember.Mars bar was 5 cents.A pack of smokes was 25 cents.Soda pop was 5 cents and you got a penny back on bottle return.
Go the the movie for 50 cents.25 cent matinee. Gasoline was 13 cents a gallon.Thats about as early back as i can remember.

399 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:26:51pm

re: #392 Palandine

true, but Mayor Bloomberg is everywhere these days!

400 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:27:02pm

re: #384 LGoPs

Not counting on that so much...I mean, it worked so well for them in 2004. q:

/remembers a MADtv sketch with "Gore" and "Kerry," Gore told Kerry, "Naw, you definitely lost. I should be President." Funny stuff, "Gore" kept repeating that last sentence during his "interview."

401 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:27:19pm

re: #375 Hard Right

I built my stockpile on my AK when BJC was pres. So I still push for the commie crap as a start to a collection. I do have a odd set of friends that have made building the rest easier than most. As an example I have a sweet S&W .357 revolver because somebody needed rent money.

402 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:27:27pm

re: #399 ggt

true, but Mayor Bloomberg is everywhere these days!

He can come and get me in AZ. :)

403 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:27:46pm

re: #393 laZardo

live on the edge, dooooood!

LOL

404 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:28:26pm

Aaaaaaaaand just when you thought you could start feeling better:

Appeals court sides with Ohio Secretary of State.

These people are dangerous. We may have seen our last free and fair presidential election in this country.

405 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:28:39pm

re: #5 rawmuse

what no torches to go along with the parade?

406 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:28:47pm

re: #403 ggt

Totally rad! Cowabunga!

/ah, 90s TMNT...

407 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:28:55pm

re: #394 Sharmuta

Yes- I am hopeful!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

God bless the PUMAs- they will drag us across the finish line.

As I said before:

You Fool! You fell victim for one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known is this- never go in against a Sicilian Clinton when death the White House is on the line!

Believe it.

I hope you're right about the PUMAs. Fox News was mentioning polls today that said Obama's ahead 10% with women voters. Still, I take it with a grain of salt--I've NEVER, ever been been polled, and I've always lived in a battleground state. I think they get the same people over and over, that is, when theyre not making it up out of whole cloth.

/nursing the flame of hope

408 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:29:07pm

Honestly, if the "Harry Potter" generation were voting, I think we'd see a land slide for John McCain!

* "THE ONE" - cult like worship of Barack Obama.

* Voldemort and his henchmen hate muggle-borns (regular folk)

* The only people who matter are "pure blood" wizzards.

* Voldemort gets his ass kicked by Harry and his buddies.

We just have to find the horcuxes of Obama!

heh

409 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:29:13pm

re: #401 Metal Man

I built my stockpile on my AK when BJC was pres. So I still push for the commie crap as a start to a collection. I do have a odd set of friends that have made building the rest easier than most. As an example I have a sweet S&W .357 revolver because somebody needed rent money.

It's good stuff alright. I got an AK in 94 right before the ban took place. S&W .357? Niiiiice.

410 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:29:36pm

re: #398 Oldasdirt

I remember being on vacation with my parents in the '70's and them freaking out when they had to pay 75 cents for a gallon of gas, THEN a couple of miles down there was one for 72 cents. They were all freaked out because they thought they got robbed.

Oh, and I was going to quit smoking when they got to $1 a pack.

411 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:29:39pm

SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN

412 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:30:13pm

re: #380 Sharmuta

The ACORN stuff is not going away and it's possible that McCain might not need to do the heavy lifting. We'll have to see how much lifting the FBI might do. Regardless- the ACORN fraud is in the news, and all we have to do is put it in peoples' minds that ACORN is linked to 0bama.

I am hopeful about the ACORN business, because the PUMAs are really pissed. I always figured there would be hell to pay for crossing Hillary, and knew it was never a good idea to get between a Clinton and the White House.

McCain needs to sell himself. Tell America that American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs and improve our security and economy, and I really people people will move towards him. Tie 0bama to ACORN and people will move away from 0bama.

Behind the hype.

413 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:30:35pm

re: #343 Metal Man

I have a 10-22 for plinking and a Seiko 30-06 for hunting. I also have several other guns I like for specific reasons.

Is that Seiko quartz or self winding?

Sako (of Finland) is a rifle.
Seiko (of Japan) is a watch.

Can't go wrong with either. LOL.

414 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:31:20pm

re: #391 Hard Right

Hafta push 'em real hard. 'Course, if there was a way to make 'em tumble, so much the better.

415 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:31:21pm

re: #404 capitalist piglet

Aaaaaaaaand just when you thought you could start feeling better:

Appeals court sides with Ohio Secretary of State.

These people are dangerous. We may have seen our last free and fair presidential election in this country.

Awwwww SOB!

416 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:32:27pm

re: #413 Colonel Panik

hahahahaha, you just helped me understand why my dad pronounces the watch: "seeeeko".

417 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:32:28pm

re: #397 jonathan1984

The scary part? How many of those will hear that Obama's a liberal and think either, "So what?" or, "That's great."

My 10-second ad: Senator Obama, in his 4 years and only xx votes in the Senate, has managed to achieve the rating of most liberal member of the Senate.

Considering that the Senate contains avowed Socialist Bernie Sanders, that's really saying something.

I'm John McCain, and I approved this message.

/Americans don't vote for liberals--Carter and Clinton RAN as moderates, and Obama's trying to portray himself that way

418 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:32:41pm

re: #404 capitalist piglet

Aaaaaaaaand just when you thought you could start feeling better:

Appeals court sides with Ohio Secretary of State.

These people are dangerous. We may have seen our last free and fair presidential election in this country.

It will be appealed.

419 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:32:42pm

ACORN has been known for ages, and just now it is getting exposure.
Sounds like the MSM, is trying to give the illusion that they are being fair and balanced in their reporting.

I fear it may be too little too late.

420 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:32:59pm

re: #410 ggt

I remember being on vacation with my parents in the '70's and them freaking out when they had to pay 75 cents for a gallon of gas, THEN a couple of miles down there was one for 72 cents. They were all freaked out because they thought they got robbed.

Oh, and I was going to quit smoking when they got to $1 a pack.

Me to...LOL...now i buy it by the can,,and roll my own.

421 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:33:17pm

re: #388 laZardo

1962? Curious as to how exposed you were to the "revolutions" of the period as a kid. I got irradiated with eco-friendly in elementary...

All kids these days are irradiated with eco-friendly. They are preparing the Young Gaianeers to turn in all their parents who use standard incandescents instead of the Goreacle approved twisty bulbs to the Carbon Footprint Police.

422 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:33:20pm

re: #414 calcajun

Hafta push 'em real hard. 'Course, if there was a way to make 'em tumble, so much the better.

Bullet suppositories?

423 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:33:28pm

re: #407 Palandine

They're polling more democrats than republicans now.

424 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:33:51pm

re: #422 Hard Right

Bullet suppositories?

There's a thought.

425 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:34:05pm

re: #418 Sharmuta

It will be appealed.

Yes, but that takes time which is running short.

426 twincitiesgirl  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:34:12pm

Just read this and watched the videos. McCain supporters should be aware they might be set up to star in the next YouTube special. I think that lady in the other video (he's an arab remark) was a plant by someone on the Obama side. I will be glad when this election is over.

McCain-Palin Supporters Gone Wild

/time for bed

427 ggt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:34:25pm

Ok, Lizards, I have to sleep. (being old and all)

weet dreams!

428 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:34:30pm

re: #419 smokefire

I could give a rat's ass about msm exposure- we need FBI exposure and we are. The msm can't keep that under wraps forever.

429 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:34:59pm

re: #424 calcajun

The hollow point kind. Now there is a thought

430 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:34:59pm

Goodnight GGT

431 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:35:41pm

re: #421 Colonel Panik

I personally find there's nothing wrong with cleaning up neighborhoods or driving as much vehicle as you need...at least in itself. If there's a MANDATORY AGENDA behind it though...that makes it different altogether.

/caps very intended.

432 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:36:01pm

re: #426 twincitiesgirl

Just read this and watched the videos. McCain supporters should be aware they might be set up to star in the next YouTube special. I think that lady in the other video (he's an arab remark) was a plant by someone on the Obama side. I will be glad when this election is over.

McCain-Palin Supporters Gone Wild

/time for bed

Quite possible. I get suspicious when there is a vid cam in just the right place at just the right time for something like this.

433 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:36:21pm

re: #428 Sharmuta

point taken.

434 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:36:32pm

re: #428 Sharmuta

I could give a rat's ass about msm exposure- we need FBI exposure and we are. The msm can't keep that under wraps forever.

All conspiracies fall apart sooner or later. People can't keep secrets for nothing. Some one always ends up bragging or complaining.

435 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:36:49pm

re: #429 smokefire

The hollow point kind. Now there is a thought

Or we could go the Man on Fire route.

I wish....you had more time.

436 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:36:57pm

re: #427 ggt

Night, ggt!

437 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:37:18pm

re: #424 calcajun

Calcajun,,Did i hear you say a while back you were from Louisana?
My Mom was born in a town in Louisana,called Cotton Valley. Ever hear of it?

438 LeePro  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:37:28pm

re: #351 laZardo

No...but I suspect you'd feel about the same as me having to cope with being the youngest Lizard so far. >_>

/you're all so big and tall...someday I'll be just as tall as you guys! [;

I, for one, am really glad you're here. You've had some pretty fantastic comments so far. Keep hanging in here, we're not as mean as we look! (Keep watching that pic for a minute or two — you'll get a funny surprise!)

439 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:37:36pm

This one made me throw up a little in my mouth.

[Link: www.designforobama.org...]

440 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:37:47pm

Who wrote this - Obama, or a mental patient?

UNDERGROUND

Under water grottos, caverns

Filled with apes

That eat figs.

Stepping on the figs

That the apes

Eat, they crunch.

The apes howl, bare

Their fangs, dance,

Tumble in the

Rushing water,

Musty, wet pelts

Glistening in the blue.


441 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:38:09pm

re: #435 Hard Right

Or we could go the Man on Fire route.

I wish....you had more time.

man on fire, that is something I know about.

Stop, drop, and roll kiddies

442 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:38:53pm

re: #440 capitalist piglet

Who wrote this - Obama, or a mental patient?

Obama while he was a mental patient
? Or was he just high on H?

443 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:39:36pm

re: #440 capitalist piglet

Who wrote this - Obama, or a mental patient?

A mental obama?

444 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:39:46pm

re: #409 Hard Right

The market in ammo has changed considerably since I was choosing my base tool guns. Not sure what the market is like currently.

My favorite Pistol is a Ruger P91DC. It ends up being allot like collecting cars, you baby them can't drive more that one at a time but each has a special place in your heart.

445 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:39:49pm

re: #441 smokefire

man on fire, that is something I know about.

Stop, drop, and roll kiddies

Well, I mean the movie by that name with Denzel Washington.

446 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:40:14pm

ACORN has one this round, but I think they have lost the war. The american people are on to them, and I don't think they will be allowed to get away with the fraud they've done.

It's time for citizens of this country to stand up and say no to ACORN!

(call your local RNC offices)

447 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:40:58pm

re: #438 LeePro

OH [insert deity here] PLEASE NO!

/ q;

448 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:41:16pm

re: #439 DesertSage

This one made me throw up a little in my mouth.

[Link: www.designforobama.org...]

Oh man. Yikes!

I found that site where you can design your own Obama logo...logobama or some such thing. I had a few ideas - but of course, they screen your creations for appropriateness before they let you have them.

Still...

449 smokefire  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:41:35pm

re: #442 Hard Right

Obama while he was a mental patient
? Or was he just high on H?

his own words,

paraphrased though

a little smoke, some blow when you could afford it.
(from pg-97 Dreams from my father)

Now doesn't that just make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
But he did not inhale

450 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:41:54pm

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Read this whole thing, folks. We are NOT alone. The PUMAs know there only shot to get their girl in the White House is 2012. The Clintons have been remarkably silent the last few days. ACORN offices getting raided, rezco singing- the signs are there.

The moderate democrats are now aware of the progressive poison in their party, and they're fighting back. They have but this one shot- same as us. 0bama must not, and will not win.

I can't help but recall saying myself there would be hell to pay for crossing Hillary.

Phone call on line two- he says he's a Mr. Lucifer....

451 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:42:07pm

re: #444 Metal Man

The market in ammo has changed considerably since I was choosing my base tool guns. Not sure what the market is like currently.

My favorite Pistol is a Ruger P91DC. It ends up being allot like collecting cars, you baby them can't drive more that one at a time but each has a special place in your heart.

Holy crap! I thought that was a GSX in your avatar (I finally clicked on it). What a car.
I love my Browning but I'm looking for something cheaper and as reliable to replace it. Must have a frame mounted safety tho.

452 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:42:16pm

re: #437 Oldasdirt

Nope. Sounds like it's up 'round central or northern LA.

453 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:42:45pm

re: #413 Colonel Panik

Oh crap I asked for that. Seko not Seiko I don't wear a watch.

454 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:43:32pm

re: #442 Hard Right

Obama while he was a mental patient
? Or was he just high on H?

Maybe he's just a moron who's good at baffling people with BS. And also, high on H.

455 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:43:40pm

re: #450 Sharmuta

Hillary vs. Palin in 2012.

/eat your heart out, Islamofascists.

456 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:43:53pm

re: #449 smokefire

his own words,

paraphrased though

a little smoke, some blow when you could afford it.
(from pg-97 Dreams from my father)

Now doesn't that just make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
But he did not inhale

I just wish he's exhale.
Well, some guy from Pakistan (IIRC) claimed they did H too. This was in Pakistan and when they came back to the U.S.

457 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:43:56pm

re: #440 capitalist piglet

Anyone who saw simians' dental work dancing must have been on something--and I want it!

458 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:44:07pm

re: #362 Hard Right

Thing is she doesn't want to stock up on another caliber of ammo. I can relate to that.

Me?
7.62x25, 9mm, .40, .45, 7.62x39, 7.5x55, 7.62x54, 8x56

7.62x25? Tokarev or CZ52?

7.5x55...you must have one of those Swiss K-31's with the straight pull bolt with that little doodad that looks like a miniature beer barrel on the bolt handle.

459 Dartmouth  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:44:38pm

The trooper in question, Mike Wooten:

* Used a Taser on his stepson.
* Illegally shot a moose.
* Drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion.
* Told others his father-in-law would "eat a f'ing lead bullet" if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce.

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html

460 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:44:52pm

re: #452 calcajun

Nope. Sounds like it's up 'round central or northern LA.

Yeah,,northwestern.close to Shrevport.

461 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:44:59pm

re: #454 capitalist piglet

Maybe he's just a moron who's good at baffling people with BS. And also, high on H.

He's good at reading BS, that's for sure. Moron? I agree.

462 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:45:04pm

re: #443 Oldasdirt

A mental obama?

Is that about the worst "poetry" you've ever read in your life?

Note to Obama: Don't quit your day job, Barack - babbling your ass off and saying absolutely nothing is working for you, man.

463 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:45:24pm

re: #440 capitalist piglet

Who wrote this - Obama, or a mental patient?

The title should have been, "Dr. Zaius and His Dancing Teeth"

464 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:45:30pm

re: #439 DesertSage

This one made me throw up a little in my mouth.

[Link: www.designforobama.org...]

Besides "Bus Drivers for Obama," I like "Postal Workers for Obama." Saw one in a neighborhood the other day. :)

465 Price_of_Peace  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:45:40pm

re: #449 smokefire

his own words,

paraphrased though

a little smoke, some blow when you could afford it.
(from pg-97 Dreams from my father)

Now doesn't that just make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
But he did not inhale

And Bush was scathed for drinking beer. Go figure.

466 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:45:57pm

re: #460 Oldasdirt

I'm from the other end of the stat-NOLA

467 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:46:10pm

re: #450 Sharmuta

Ah Sharm, they don't care now. They are content with seeing Obama as their president, as long as they don't have to "give" anything.

What they don't understand is that if Obama is their president, they'll have to give EVERYTHING!

I learned this earlier - we have a lot of complacent lizards.

468 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:46:17pm

re: #378 laZardo

Because I've been tempted to fill it out like an online blog meme thingy...

Harry Potter could be a classmate, playing on their Quidditch team. Read through Book 4 every day on the way to school, suddenly lost interest starting with Book 5.

Since they were in diapers, karaoke machines have been annoying people at parties.

They have always been looking for Carmen Sandiego. I was the only one I know in my school who ever caught her. BOOYAH!

GPS satellite navigation systems have always been available.

Coke and Pepsi have always used recycled plastic bottles.

Shampoo and conditioner have always been available in the same bottle.

Gas stations have never fixed flats, but most serve cappuccino.

Their parents may have dropped them in shock when they heard George Bush announce “tax revenue increases.” 1987 was late Reagan, thankfully.

Girls in head scarves have always been part of the school fashion scene. Not really... but men in "peace scarves..." HRRRRRRRRGH.

Macaulay Culkin has always been Home Alone. Never got why he wasn't in 3.

Their parents may have watched The American Gladiators on TV the day they were born. I had the lunchbox. (:

The Green Bay Packers (almost) always had the same starting quarterback. The San Francisco 49ers were the shit back when I was a kid. Ah, glory days... ;_;

Of course, I moved to Manila starting from the 1st Grade, and I ended up "behind the times," hence the lack of the rest of the meme...

That was fun! I wonder how much that American Gladiators lunchbox would be worth today.


re: #408 Intrepid

Honestly, if the "Harry Potter" generation were voting, I think we'd see a land slide for John McCain!

* "THE ONE" - cult like worship of Barack Obama.

* Voldemort and his henchmen hate muggle-borns (regular folk)

* The only people who matter are "pure blood" wizzards.

* Voldemort gets his ass kicked by Harry and his buddies.

We just have to find the horcuxes of Obama!

heh

Now THERE'S a meme I'd like to see!

469 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:46:41pm

re: #457 calcajun

Anyone who saw simians' dental work dancing must have been on something--and I want it!

Obama was in Hawaii in the late 70's so I am sure he was quite familiar with Kona Gold...Maui Wowie...Kauai Electric (not a power generating utility..LOL) .

470 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:46:51pm

re: #458 Colonel Panik

7.62x25? Tokarev or CZ52?

7.5x55...you must have one of those Swiss K-31's with the straight pull bolt with that little doodad that looks like a miniature beer barrel on the bolt handle.


2 for 2. Very good.
My Yugo Mauser has a better trigger than the K-31, but a Timney trigger has something to do with that.

471 Strike Hornet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:47:40pm

re: #404 capitalist piglet

Aaaaaaaaand just when you thought you could start feeling better:

Appeals court sides with Ohio Secretary of State.

These people are dangerous. We may have seen our last free and fair presidential election in this country.

She is a former moonbat judge...I'm sure she made a few calls to her tinfoil hat friends on the bench and got this reversed...Judges are the first line of defense for the commies...

472 LeePro  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:47:40pm

re: #398 Oldasdirt

Age,and what i remember.Mars bar was 5 cents.A pack of smokes was 25 cents.Soda pop was 5 cents and you got a penny back on bottle return.
Go the the movie for 50 cents.25 cent matinee. Gasoline was 13 cents a gallon.Thats about as early back as i can remember.

Heh.

/19-old-fart-y-2

//Now where's that fucking cane? Had it here just a minute ago...

473 RTLM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:47:43pm

I've noticed a distinct absence in the LFG header..

(sans the hippie/jihadi gapers)

Bravo!

474 Xenobyte  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:48:03pm

re: #109 realwest

Hi Irene! Uh, to quote Groucho Marx (if I were speaking to the mother of 17 children that is) "Gee lady, I like my cigar too, but I sometimes take it out".
No lie - it's the line that got him kicked off TV!

Ahhh... "You Bet Your Life" circa 1952... According to Wikipedia the exchange went like this: One hilarious response to a contestant who had over a dozen children brought down the house. In response to Marx asking in disbelief why she had so many children, the contestant replied "No, Groucho. You don't understand. I REALLY, REALLY love my husband.", to which Marx responded, "I love my cigar too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while."

475 RTLM  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:48:24pm

pimf: LGF header

476 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:48:27pm

re: #470 Hard Right

Frankly, I'd like to get a Browning Hi-Power 9mm--for historical purposes. That and a Martini-Henry.

477 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:48:29pm

re: #449 smokefire

his own words,

paraphrased though

a little smoke, some blow when you could afford it.
(from pg-97 Dreams from my father)

Now doesn't that just make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
But he did not inhale

I remember when mere speculation regarding such things made a presidential candidate unacceptable to the left. I remember, too, when the media was interested in it.

And it wasn't long ago.

478 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:49:06pm

re: #466 calcajun

I'm from the other end of the stat-NOLA

Then you know what a Goggle-eye perch is.

479 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:49:37pm

re: #476 calcajun

Frankly, I'd like to get a Browning Hi-Power 9mm--for historical purposes. That and a Martini-Henry.

Mark III here. Not much into collecting, but the history of the HP is pretty interesting.

480 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:49:49pm

re: #462 capitalist piglet

Is that about the worst "poetry" you've ever read in your life?

Note to Obama: Don't quit your day job, Barack - babbling your ass off and saying absolutely nothing is working for you, man.

An excerpt from "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams.
"Vogon poetry is of course the third worst in the Universe.

The second worst is that of the Azagoths of Kria. During a recitation by their Poet Master Grunthos the Flatulent of his poem "Ode To A Small Lump of Green Putty I Found In My Armpit One Midsummer Morning" four of his audience died of internal haemorrhaging, and the President of the Mid-Galactic Arts Nobbling Council survived by gnawing one of his own limbs off. Grunthos is reported to have been "disappointed" by the poem's reception, and was about to embark on a reading of his twelve- book epic entitled "Zen And The Art Of Going To The Lavatory" when his own major intestine, in a desperate bid to save the universe, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain.

The very worst poetry of all perished along with its creator, Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Greenbridge, Essex, England in the destruction of the planet Earth."

481 Syrah  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:50:44pm
482 neocon hippie  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:51:08pm

ACORN Fraud In Pennsylvania
Clarice Feldman

The American Spectator documents huge vote registration fraud in Pennsylvania:

A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is "not confident we can get a fair election" in the state come November.

Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as "addresses" for "voters" was handed out to journalists.

Gleason was even more explicit.

"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election.

---

This is just unbelievable. Hollywood libs, media bias, and academic twaddle are one thing. But right under our nose the left has rotted out our financial system via subprime loan, and undermined the most precious cornerstone of our constitutional republic: free and fair elections.

"Not confident we can get a fair election in the state come November."

Read it and weep.

483 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:51:18pm

re: #478 Oldasdirt

Hey, I just cook 'em and eat 'em. Not an ichthyologist.

484 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:51:23pm

re: #472 LeePro

ROFL{:>

485 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:51:31pm

re: #464 Palandine

I like "Postal Workers for Obama." Saw one in a neighborhood the other day. :)

I'm not going to go there....I swear...
(Bites tongue.)

486 LeePro  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:51:37pm

re: #403 ggt

live on the edge, dooooood!

LOL

re: #406 laZardo

Totally rad! Cowabunga!

/ah, 90s TMNT...

LOL2

487 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:51:55pm

re: #378 laZardo

Because I've been tempted to fill it out like an online blog meme thingy...

[...snip...]

Of course, I moved to Manila starting from the 1st Grade, and I ended up "behind the times," hence the lack of the rest of the meme...

One more thing about today's college freshmen: The presidents in their lifetimes have only had two different last names, Bush and Clinton, and only two different first names, George and Bill.

488 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:52:21pm

re: #483 calcajun

Hey, I just cook 'em and eat 'em. Not an ichthyologist.

One of the best tasteing fish in the world.

489 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:52:38pm

re: #479 Hard Right

The HP was (supposedly) more reliable then the M-1911. But the .45 ACP rounds were more powerful, so I heard.

490 gmsc  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:52:40pm

re: #481 Syrah

Goodnight lizards, be of good cheer.

Good night, Syrah!

491 Palandine  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:53:09pm

re: #485 Colonel Panik

I'm not going to go there....I swear...
(Bites tongue.)

I thought it was a joke at first, but it was in a clump with a whole bunch of Dem signs. ;)

492 FamHistoryGuy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:53:46pm

re: #390 Clemente

I have pictures taken in the Russian sector of Berlin. Including two of Nikita in a motorcade. Not taken by me, but by my biological father.

493 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:54:07pm

re: #488 Oldasdirt

Out here in SoCal, it's either fish from the locally stocked lakes or cold-water Pacific fish. I do miss red-fish and snapper.

494 LeePro  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:54:41pm
495 capitalist piglet  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:55:10pm

re: #480 Palandine

Heh.

By the way, his other published poem has a few lines in it about a stain on his shorts, but it was really long, so I didn't post it.

496 calcajun  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:55:24pm

Well, lizards. Time for bed.

Bon soir.

497 FamHistoryGuy  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:55:33pm

re: #385 ggt

The Harris county DA's office has the serial number of one of mine.

498 Hard Right  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:56:16pm

re: #489 calcajun

The HP was (supposedly) more reliable then the M-1911. But the .45 ACP rounds were more powerful, so I heard.

Well, my experience has proven otherwise on reliability, but it is a limited sample.
I once demonstrated the size difference of the 9mm and .45 cartridges by dropping an empty 9mm casing into a .45 casing. I'd rather have a .45 over 9mm, but I wouldn't worry about only having a 9mm.

499 Metal Man  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:56:41pm

re: #451 Hard Right

Now there is the thing we need to tell those buying their first gun. You will never regret what you have. You'll just want to add something better.
I have a MK760 piece of crap semi auto that jams just like in the video.

500 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:56:54pm

Lee, looks like they're trying to "Memphis-ize" the national election!

Trying to get their own "Ford" in by hook or by crook!

501 Colonel Panik  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:59:14pm

re: #476 calcajun

That and a Martini-Henry.

ZULU!

502 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:59:25pm

It's 2 AM.I have to turn my pacemaker off now.see you guys and gals.Take good care and always remember.Obama is a poo poo head.

503 laZardo  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:59:47pm

re: #468 gmsc

I wonder if I still have it. It even had its own thermos.

504 Oldasdirt  Fri, Oct 10, 2008 11:59:55pm

Nite calcajun

505 Hard Right  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:00:20am

re: #499 Metal Man

Now there is the thing we need to tell those buying their first gun. You will never regret what you have. You'll just want to add something better.
I have a MK760 piece of crap semi auto that jams just like in the video.

My first significant caliber of rifle was an SKS. It was when the Chinese sent them flooding into America and they went for $70-$80. Traded it toward the AK. :)

506 Hard Right  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:00:56am

re: #501 Colonel Panik

ZULU!

Great movie.

507 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:01:05am

re: #480 Palandine

I love those books!

508 laZardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:01:12am

re: #487 gmsc

I'm in my 3rd year, so Reagan just gets in there. >_>

/though over here, it's Aquino, Ramos, Estrada, Macapagal...

509 capitalist piglet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:01:31am

re: #502 Oldasdirt

'Night, dirt.

Here's a small excerpt of more Obama poetry for your sweet dreaming pleasure:

Points out the same amber

Stain on his shorts that I've got on mine, and

Makes me smell his smell, coming

From me

510 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:02:07am

re: #500 Intrepid

Lee, looks like they're trying to "Memphis-ize" the national election!

Trying to get their own "Ford" in by hook or by crook!

GAK

/the one thing I don't miss about Memphis, the corrupt politics.

511 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:02:20am

Sorry I disappeared for several minutes, BTW.

I had to update my list of timed quizzes for the day.

512 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:02:56am

re: #479 Hard Right

Mark III here. Not much into collecting, but the history of the HP is pretty interesting.

I'd really like to get one of the Inglis of Canada HiPowers from WWII. Most of them are pretty beat up though.

513 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:02:59am

re: #495 capitalist piglet

Heh.

By the way, his other published poem has a few lines in it about a stain on his shorts, but it was really long, so I didn't post it.

Fascinating. From Obamapedia.org:

POP

Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes,
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;
I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I'm sure he's unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.
I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he's still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He's so unhappy, to which he replies...
But I don't care anymore, cause
He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I've been saving; I'm laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I've got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem
He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shrink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; 'cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop's black-framed glasses
And know he's laughing too.
*****************
I wrote a lot of pretentious crap poetry back in the day, but, damn. Man has daddy issues.

514 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:04:19am

re: #506 Hard Right

Great movie.

Whenever anybody mentions the Martini-Henry I think of that flick.
Our European history teacher showed it to us in 9th grade when we were studying the Victorian era.

515 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:05:13am

re: #511 gmsc

Cool! Bookmarked. :)

516 capitalist piglet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:05:15am

re: #482 neocon hippie


I honestly think part of what ACORN seeks to do, in addition to putting in place a mechanism with which to steal the election for Obama should the results be close, is to undermine our confidence in elections in general. It's not unlike what they're attempting to do with the economy. They're trying to get us to conclude that our system no longer works, at any level.

What can be done to repair this damage BEFORE November 4th? Anything? Is our confidence in THIS election already undermined? I am seriously thinking it is.

517 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:06:22am

re: #447 laZardo

OH [insert deity here] PLEASE NO!

/ q;

Geez, laZardo! I was praising you. Sorry if I hurt your feelings!

518 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:06:24am

re: #505 Hard Right

My first significant caliber of rifle was an SKS. It was when the Chinese sent them flooding into America and they went for $70-$80. Traded it toward the AK. :)

I'm guessing then You are about my age. that sounds about the point I entered the gun market.

519 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:06:30am

Evil Clown

He wears those flappy floppy shoes
And those billowy bright clothes
And a big red ball like Rudolph’s
Perched on the tip of his nose
He sports those huge and shiny teeth
Which resemble piano keys
And a massive string of handkerchiefs
To catch his clowny sneeze
He wears a bulky jacket
Filled with all kinds of tricks
Which he whips out with his fat white hands
As he plays his clowny shtick
He has a flower tucked into
His much too wide lapel
If you get too close to smell it
He’ll drench you all to hell
And he wears a buzzer in his palm
That shocks you when you shake
And a bucket of confetti
That over your head he’ll rake
He drives around in his weird little car
With his loud brass honky horn
And is always either smiling
Or else comically forlorn
He has that frizzy hair that floats
Around his balding head
With his whole face hued fish belly white
He looks more than faintly dead
Under piles of pancake makeup
Caked from forehead down to throat
And all his features are painted on
In suffocating coats
You can never tell what he’s thinking
Or exactly what he’ll do
But if you do it with him
The joke will be on you
If you chance to meet him
Beware what he’s about
For Clowny just might getcha
Ifnya don’t watch out
The chap is vaguely sinister
With his creepy clowny grin
And those beady little clowny eyes
That threaten to suck you in
He's positively eerie
Some have dreaded to behold
His spooky painted visage
Since they were two years old
Some kids from the beginning
See him as a Boogey Man
And who’s to say that they’re not right
If he’s more than their dreams can stand?
Hollywood knows he’s chilling
It doesn’t surprise a bit
That when Stephen King needed a monster
He made an evil clown IT
Some people think it’s funny
That other folks fear clowns
But remember John Wayne Gacy:
Guard up, and comments down.

520 capitalist piglet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:06:53am

re: #513 Palandine

He most definitely does have daddy issues. He also wears stained shorts.

521 capitalist piglet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:07:45am

re: #519 Salamantis
Obama didn't write that, did he?

522 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:08:09am

A reporter asks for the Obama crowd to join him in the Pledge, but the other reporters think he is an "oddity".

Obama Not Open to the Pledge at His Town Halls

523 laZardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:08:58am

re: #517 LeePro

Only meant that in jest. :D Speaking of feelings though, the one thing me and my Obamaton brother do agree upon is our dislike of the emo.

524 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:09:09am

re: #521 capitalist piglet

Obama didn't write that, did he?

Nope; I did.

525 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:10:11am

re: #445 Hard Right

Read the original book. Got it on a remnant sale. Still have it here somewhere. Go Creasy.

526 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:10:17am

re: #515 gop_patriot

Cool! Bookmarked. :)

Thanks! Enjoy.

527 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:10:32am

Good night all it's time for me to check out.

528 Hard Right  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:12:28am

re: #512 Colonel Panik

I'd really like to get one of the Inglis of Canada HiPowers from WWII. Most of them are pretty beat up though.

True. The good ones aren't exactly inexspensive either. I wonder if the shoulder stock makes a significant difference?

529 capitalist piglet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:13:24am

re: #524 Salamantis

Nope; I did.

I was kidding. I knew it sounded too coherent to be Obama's. : )

530 laZardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:13:37am

It's mid-afternoon but the fatigue that comes from a scrawny nerd running his first 10K followed by the college commute is finally catching up with me. z_z G'dafternoon to ya!

531 Hard Right  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:13:43am

re: #527 Metal Man

Good night all it's time for me to check out.

Goodnight.

532 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:14:20am

re: #500 Intrepid

Lee, looks like they're trying to "Memphis-ize" the national election!

Trying to get their own "Ford" in by hook or by crook!

...by hook or by crook

You got that right! ! ! Don't forget King Willie!

533 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:16:26am

You've gotta love the National Enquirer sometimes:

OBAMA GAY PORNO CZAR LINK

534 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:16:33am

re: #529 capitalist piglet

I was kidding. I knew it sounded too coherent to be Obama's. : )

I only posted it because the Lon Chaney quote at the beginning of the thread reminded me of it...;~)

535 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:21:55am

re: #532 LeePro

But I want to forget him! UGH lol

How are you tonight, Lee? :)

536 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:23:23am

re: #509 capitalist piglet

Gaaaak

537 Hard Right  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:25:52am

re: #525 FamHistoryGuy

Read the original book. Got it on a remnant sale. Still have it here somewhere. Go Creasy.

Creasy bear. Heh.

re: #514 Colonel Panik

Whenever anybody mentions the Martini-Henry I think of that flick.
Our European history teacher showed it to us in 9th grade when we were studying the Victorian era.

Didn't they find some in a wharehouse somewhere? It was all kinds of rifles from around that period IIRC.

538 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:26:31am

re: #510 gop_patriot

Hey { { {G} } }!

Last night, got to talking about my final dental appointments (next week!), and AmeriDan offered to treat JimPro and me to my first steak! ! !

I'm kinda thinkin'... maybe bar-b-q would be way-y-y-y-y-y better...?

Or maybe get that steak (that I haven't had in over a year!) first, and then go for the bar-b-q...?

539 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:29:34am

re: #522 Intrepid

A reporter asks for the Obama crowd to join him in the Pledge, but the other reporters think he is an "oddity".

Obama Not Open to the Pledge at His Town Halls

That guy was awesome!

540 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:31:05am

re: #539 Strike Hornet

That happened a long time ago. It was either at the tail end of the primary, or at the very beginning of the Presidential race.

And yes, that guy is awesome.

541 Macker  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:31:58am

re: #469 Colonel Panik

Obama was in Hawaii in the late 70's so I am sure he was quite familiar with Kona Gold...Maui Wowie...Kauai Electric (not a power generating utility..LOL) .

What about Tied Stick, man?

/Cheech

542 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:33:22am

re: #538 LeePro

I'd go for steak, then barbecue. Both is always the best option when it comes to food choices. lol

I'm so glad you're making some progress, dentistry-wise. I will most likely be in town the weekend of Halloween, my best friend and I are taking the kids trick or treating in her awesome neighborhood, then having a party for the parents and kids. I can't decide between 80s or Goth for a costume. 80s would be easier and cheaper (it's actually expensive to dress Goth if you don't already have the clothes LOL) but I'm afraid I'd just look like a fat mom trying to relive the "glory days". ROFL

Oh well, anyway, maybe you'll luck out and get to see me in my Halloween costume. HAHA
:D

543 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:34:44am

re: #538 LeePro

Lee, you're from Memphis! What the heck are you waiting for in wanting BBQ?

A nice BBQ sammich with cole slaw and a piece of coconut pie?

544 pink freud  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:34:59am

re: #509 capitalist piglet

'Night, dirt.

Here's a small excerpt of more Obama poetry for your sweet dreaming pleasure:

Good evening, capitalist piglet .....do you have a link for this cruft?

545 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:37:09am

re: #539 Strike Hornet

Look at the latest comment, from what I suppose is a typical Obama supporter:

what a McCain supporter. moreover what a fag. no respect for Obama at all... who cares about the damn flag?

546 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:38:37am

re: #528 Hard Right

True. The good ones aren't exactly inexspensive either. I wonder if the shoulder stock makes a significant difference?

Some had it, some didn't. The ones that did had the "slide rule" sight on the top like a Mauser Broomhandle. They are generally pricier than the ones without as there weren't as many of them made (somebody figured out that 300 yard shots with a pistol caliber were next to worthless LOL) especially later in the war, so they have a higher collector value than the ones without.

Speaking of Broomhandles, they seem to have dropped in price recently. I've seen several really nice ones for rather affordable prices at some of the fun shows I've been to lately. Not as many Star Wars nerds wanting to have a "Han Solo blaster" anymore? I remember just a few years ago even real beaters were going for ridiculous prices and a Broomhandle collector I met told me it was because of "Star Wars" fans buying them.

547 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:41:05am

re: #545 gop_patriot

Look at the latest comment, from what I suppose is a typical Obama supporter:

You could write back in Libspeak:

"Hey, without the flags, what would we burn and stand on at protests?"

548 aLohaTim  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:45:29am

GO SOX!

549 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:45:35am

re: #541 Macker

What about Tied Stick, man?

/Cheech

The only thing I've ever had on a stick from Thailand is barbequed chicken with peanut satay sauce...

Thai stick...that's seriously old school, man. LOL.

550 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:46:25am

re: #547 gmsc

You could write back in Libspeak:

"Hey, without the flags, what would we burn and stand on at protests?"

or I could write back in what I'm using now- almost-drunk-speak, and tell them what I really think. But I'd probably be banned from YouTube. LOL

/i'm now out of dos equis ambar ale, dammit. going to have to steal some of hubbys mgd. blech.

551 granite eagle[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:47:01am
552 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:48:00am

re: #537 Hard Right

Didn't they find some in a wharehouse somewhere? It was all kinds of rifles from around that period IIRC.

I saw two of them at a recent show. I don't know where you'd get cartridges for them. They were black powder IIRC, and some used brass foil cartridges at first, later modern turned brass.

Definitely a museum piece.

553 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:48:15am

re: #549 Colonel Panik

The only thing I've ever had on a stick from Thailand is barbequed chicken with peanut satay sauce...

Thai stick...that's seriously old school, man. LOL.

You sure it was chicken? I had something on a stick in Pattaya and the stick tasted better.

554 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:49:56am

re: #553 rightwinger3

You sure it was chicken? I had something on a stick in Pattaya and the stick tasted better.

I hope it was chicken!

555 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:50:29am

re: #549 Colonel Panik

The only thing I've ever had on a stick from Thailand is barbequed chicken with peanut satay sauce...

Funny you should mention peanut satay sauce, I was just looking up recipes for that! :O

/cue twilight zone music

556 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:50:54am

re: #551 granite eagle

This mans airplane should crash.........
I nearly cried laughing when I saw that someone actually referenced president Carter and Economic Policy in one sentence......then I started to just cry........since someone is asking Carter about economics......

This is news?
This is sad.........

Bush is now being blamed for the world's economic problems...

557 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:52:04am

re: #551 granite eagle

Oh, that's rich. Good Lord.

558 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:52:06am

re: #554 Colonel Panik

I hope it was chicken!

Operative word there C P. But hey as long as it was good...

559 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:53:42am

re: #555 gop_patriot

I have a hand-written recipie for that hanging on my fridge that I have yet to try out.

/Considers satays more Malay or Indonesian than Thai

560 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:54:22am

Hey I just noticed I had my 2nd lizard birthday a few days ago. Only 1400 comments, I don't make nearly enough smartass remarks here and I will have to change that.

561 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:54:41am

re: #542 gop_patriot

LOL! Sounds like fun!

Yeah, logic wins. Think I'll go for the freebie first!




re: #543 Intrepid

Lee, you're from Memphis! What the heck are you waiting for in wanting BBQ?

A nice BBQ sammich with cole slaw and a piece of coconut pie?

Had more than a year of ba-a-a-a-a-a-ad dental poblems. Almost fixed now, but don't want to ruin a good bar-b-q, if not ready yet!

btw, you can have the coconut pie (yecht!). I'll take a good homemade lemon meringue any day!

562 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:56:16am

re: #560 rightwinger3

Hey I just noticed I had my 2nd lizard birthday a few days ago. Only 1400 comments, I don't make nearly enough smartass remarks here and I will have to change that.

I like the General Mattis quote.

563 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:58:27am

re: #551 granite eagle

This mans airplane should crash.........
I nearly cried laughing when I saw that someone actually referenced president Carter and Economic Policy in one sentence......then I started to just cry........since someone is asking Carter about economics......

This is news?
This is sad.........

WELCOME BACK CARTER

Funniest political satire cartoon ever. Dead on target.

564 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:58:51am

re: #560 rightwinger3

Hey I just noticed I had my 2nd lizard birthday a few days ago. Only 1400 comments, I don't make nearly enough smartass remarks here and I will have to change that.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SMARTASS! ! !

;D

565 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 12:59:50am

re: #562 Colonel Panik

I am sure I've told you this before, but I love your avatar and quote. :)

566 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:01:51am

re: #564 LeePro

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SMARTASS! ! !

;D

Thanks. I can provide comic relief every once in a while except when Edgar or Random63 is around. Just seeing the names makes me rude.

567 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:02:56am

re: #562 Colonel Panik

I like the General Mattis quote.

The new Chesty Puller. The man knows war...and peace.

568 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:04:57am

re: #545 gop_patriot

Look at the latest comment, from what I suppose is a typical Obama supporter:

Reading the comments made me want to take a shower...how embarrassing for Obama...
Why is it that every freak, hippie, geek, malcontent, counter culture, anarchist, flag hater, racist, bigot, blame America first, military hater, marxist, commie, feminazi, parent hating, hollywood idolizer, bomb throwing terrorist, mental midget with mommy/daddy issues, teenager like authority hating ignoramus nutjob is a Obama supporter?
What is it about him that attracts them? what a frightening party...
It is a party full of freaks...

569 rightwinger3  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:07:43am

re: #568 Strike Hornet

Reading the comments made me want to take a shower...how embarrassing for Obama...
Why is it that every freak, hippie, geek, malcontent, counter culture, anarchist, flag hater, racist, bigot, blame America first, military hater, marxist, commie, feminazi, parent hating, hollywood idolizer, bomb throwing terrorist, mental midget with mommy/daddy issues, teenager like authority hating ignoramus nutjob is a Obama supporter?
What is it about him that attracts them? what a frightening party...
It is a party full of freaks...

They all hang together, and the democrat party courts their vote.

570 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:08:10am

re: #568 Strike Hornet

What is it about him that attracts them?

He's just like them?

571 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:09:59am

re: #556 rightwinger3

Bush is now being blamed for the world's economic problems...

If only the news was that good. Bush may be getting some flack, but read between the lines of Carter's statement. He is blaming the free market.

572 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:11:26am

KEYBOARD MAKES NOT A GOOD PILLOW.

Must put myself to bed now...
...saving myself for first steak in over a year! ! !

G'nite {G}, {Intrepid} and all other {good Lizards}. Don't fight over that pie... there's plenty to go around!

573 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:13:22am

*disengages lurking device*

Night LeePro, may your steak be perfect.

574 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:13:55am

re: #573 BlueCanuck

{Blue}

575 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:13:57am

BTW - the Sarah Palin Rally in Richmond on the 13th has been moved because of the expected crowds!

New venue is The Richmond International Raceway, located at:

600 E. Laburnum Avenue
Richmond, VA 23222

Gates will open at 11am.
Program starts at 2pm.

Due to the unprecidented crowd demands, the venue was changed.

Heh!

576 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:14:13am

re: #572 LeePro

Goodnight, sleep well! :)

577 krycek  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:14:29am

Do liberals only support military operations when there is nothing to gain for America? They favor sending the military to Kosovo, Darfur, and Somalia. They oppose the war in Iraq and continue to ignore the numerous UN resolutions that we enforced which allowed us to go. They will never admit the potential value of making it a democracy in that region.

578 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:14:51am

re: #571 Scion9

If only the news was that good. Bush may be getting some flack, but read between the lines of Carter's statement. He is blaming the free market.

I watched Bill Moyers tonight on PBS (I know, self punishment I guess)...
He had George Soros on telling him that the America of Free Markets is gone...Socialist America is here to stay...it is the only way we can survive now in the new world order...and how Reagan and Bush ruined the Free Markets for the world and only Obama can save us...sickening...
I wanted to put my foot through the tv...

579 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:15:18am

re: #551 granite eagle

Not cool to make comments about former Presidents like that.

580 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:15:53am

re: #575 Intrepid

That earlier thread could use more dings, BTW.....

581 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:16:25am

re: #577 krycek

Do liberals only support military operations when there is nothing to gain for America? They favor sending the military to Kosovo, Darfur, and Somalia. They oppose the war in Iraq and continue to ignore the numerous UN resolutions that we enforced which allowed us to go. They will never admit the potential value of making it a democracy in that region.

They hate Democracy...

582 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:17:40am

re: #579 Sharmuta

Not cool to make comments about former Presidents like that.

How about he just stay in Brussels?

583 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:18:33am

re: #580 Sharmuta

That earlier thread could use more dings, BTW.....

What earlier thread?

584 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:19:13am

re: #583 Intrepid

The defeatism thread.

585 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:22:20am

re: #584 Sharmuta

The defeatism thread.

Not sure if I want to ding it up, to be honest. The quote was taken out of context, and it caused a flurry of negativism that I had a hard time dinging down and foisting off.

It was a hard battle ground, and I'm tired from it!

586 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:23:11am

re: #585 Intrepid

I'm talking about the comments, Sweetie.

587 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:23:47am

re: #578 Strike Hornet

Wonder how large a body guard squad he has and who pays for his security?

588 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:24:56am

re: #587 FamHistoryGuy

Wonder how large a body guard squad he has and who pays for his security?

IIRC he is protected by US Secret Service as are all of the candidates...

589 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:25:03am

re: #586 Sharmuta

Are you thinking of any comment in particular?

590 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:25:07am

Don't watch the late night show, although now it's safe I guess.
Conan had Oliver Stone promoting this W. feature (?); ultra anti-bush. It's sickening.

Stay clear from this one, unless you're dying to get a heart attack.

591 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:25:42am

re: #565 gop_patriot

I am sure I've told you this before, but I love your avatar and quote. :)

Thanks. I'm rather disappointed that the only Monty Python sketch with the Colonel available on youtube is their Birds Eye Peas commercial.

Now this is some funny sh**: Monty Python & The Holy Grail meets Lord of the Rings

592 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:26:41am

re: #588 Strike Hornet

Actually I was refering to soros. With as many people with good reason to hate him he should be looking over his shoulder all the time.

593 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:27:00am

re: #586 Sharmuta

I'm talking about the comments, Sweetie.

Oooh, more comments to ding down? I'll jump over and do it.

Dang Sharm, it's hard keeping these boys on track to get Mac and Sarah elected!

They're such wusses sometimes.

594 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:27:46am

re: #587 FamHistoryGuy

Wonder how large a body guard squad he has and who pays for his security?

I'm sorry...I thought you were referring to Obama...it seems you were speaking of Soros (or Moyers)...in that case I do not know...but Soros can afford a small (or even a large) army to protect him...perhaps what is left of Saddam's Republican Guard?

595 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:28:54am

re: #589 gop_patriot

Are you thinking of any comment in particular?

No- none in particular. There are good ones and bad ones.

Eventually, I will be making my own comment on that thread, but for now, I stand by what I've said on this thread.

596 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:29:49am

re: #590 Age Of Freedom

Don't watch the late night show, although now it's safe I guess.
Conan had Oliver Stone promoting this W. feature (?); ultra anti-bush. It's sickening.

Stay clear from this one, unless you're dying to get a heart attack.

I wouldn't watch an Oliver Stone movie if he personally wrote me a check for $1000...F'in nutjob that guys is...

597 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:35:36am

Don't know if anyone has seen this McCain Ad yet. It's a good one, on ACORN.

598 granite eagle  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:36:33am

One last rant before I go to bed......

Michigan was treated like a buck toothed bitch during the democratic primary.

The state was marginalized by D'oh! and Hillary, owning to the fact that Michigan gets no respect for its political clout. (which is marginal anyway)

A democratic state....led by democrats.......in deep dookie......

599 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:36:49am

re: #594 Strike Hornet

soros has the money but keeping the required permits for each jurisdiction for each guard would be an interesting task in itself. Or does the local police get stuck with the duty of protecting soros instead of protecting local citizens? If local police, then does he get charged for it instead of it being the local taxpayer dime?

600 krycek  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:36:54am

re: #590 Age Of Freedom

Don't watch the late night show, although now it's safe I guess.
Conan had Oliver Stone promoting this W. feature (?); ultra anti-bush. It's sickening.

Stay clear from this one, unless you're dying to get a heart attack.

You'd think a political movie would be death at the box office right now. Maybe I'm wrong.

601 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:36:59am

re: #591 Colonel Panik

Oh shit. LOLOL I've favorited that second link already and I'm only halfway through it!

/I could have sworn I've seen another Colonel skit, but maybe not. :/

602 granite eagle  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:38:53am

re: #582 Strike Hornet


Yes...I stand corrected.......Please.....stay in Brussels.....

603 Mel Lono  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:40:04am

re: #598 granite eagle

And their football team sucks too.
/low blow

604 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:40:16am

As a early morning mental excercise: Imagine how an Obama administration would apply the doctrines of Hope and Change to the following situation

WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States is ready to drop North Korea from a terrorism blacklist, the Associated Press has learned, in the latest attempt by the administration to salvage a nuclear deal with Pyongyang before President Bush's term ends.

The act of striking North Korea from the list of countries said to be perpetrating terrorists acts could come as early as Saturday, now that Bush has approved it, say diplomats briefed on the initiatives pressing the North to abandon its atomic weapons program.

The removal would be only provisional, officials said, and North Korea would be put back on the State Department's "state sponsors of terrorism" list if it doesn't comply with inspections of its nuclear facilities. The diplomats spoke on condition of anonymity because the administration has not yet announced the step.

605 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:48:22am

re: #594 Strike Hornet

I'm sorry...I thought you were referring to Obama...it seems you were speaking of Soros (or Moyers)...in that case I do not know...but Soros can afford a small (or even a large) army to protect him...perhaps what is left of Saddam's Republican Guard?

I was thinking the Fighting Uruk-Hai.


The only problem with whacking Soros is, he probably has some sort of "insurance policy"...if he gets whacked, some sort of trade or deal will be automatically put into effect that will really f*** up the economy.

But maybe I've just seen too many Bond films.

606 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:48:53am

Good night, all!

607 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:50:21am

re: #595 Sharmuta

OK, I was just wondering if you meant ding up or ding down, but I understand you now. I'm pretty sure I've dinged some of your comments up today. I agree with so much of what you have said about the PUMAs dragging McCain's people kicking and screaming across the finish line.

608 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:51:43am

re: #604 Dar ul Harbarian

HopeyMcChangeyDope would fly to Pyongyang and assure us that everything is okeydokey and send Oprah over for a therapeutic session with Ronery Boy.

609 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:51:45am

Pardon my density.

What, exactly, is a PUMA?

610 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:52:59am

re: #609 Dar ul Harbarian

Hillary supporters- it stand for Party Unity My Ass.

611 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:54:42am

re: #607 gop_patriot

Thank you, Dear. I finally put in my two cents on that thread.

612 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:54:49am

re: #607 gop_patriot

I have a little "puma" of my own.
When she wants the "Savory Hunter's Stew with Duck", she gets the "Savory Hunter's Stew with Duck" or she makes it clear in no uncertain terms that she is not a happy "kitteh".
Damn cat eats better than I do.

And on that note I bid you all goodnight.

613 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:55:15am

re: #608 Colonel Panik

HopeyMcChangeyDope would fly to Pyongyang and assure us that everything is okeydokey and send Oprah over for a therapeutic session with Ronery Boy.

I was thinking more along the lines of inviting the Norks, Dinnerjacket, Russia, China, et al to Washington to discuss unilateral American nuclear disarmament as a first step toward global healing and fairness. That would make the world like us.

614 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:55:27am

Well it's getting cold now, and North Korea needs rice and veggies. So the State Department must comply.

So stinking tired of the tactics of Kim Jong Il and his buddies.

I don't want those folks to starve, but their leaders could stave off this hunger if they'd only do what is right for them!

Where is Metsada/Kidon when they are needed?

615 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:56:20am

re: #610 Sharmuta

Hillary supporters- it stand for Party Unity My Ass.

Thank you.

616 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:56:46am

re: #613 Dar ul Harbarian

I was thinking more along the lines of inviting the Norks, Dinnerjacket, Russia, China, et al to Washington to discuss unilateral American nuclear disarmament as a first step toward global healing and fairness. That would make the world like us.

You are probably right but I am trying to maintain my sense of humor and thinking along those lines just raises my blood pressure and gives me heartburn.

617 Granite Eagle  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:57:03am

re: #609 Dar ul Harbarian

Pardon my density.

What, exactly, is a PUMA?

If you did not ask....I was going to.......

618 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:58:05am

re: #609 Dar ul Harbarian

Pardon my density.

What, exactly, is a PUMA?

they are the 7,000,000 angry Hillary supporters...they hate Obama and the really far left loons and the media that f'ed her over...
Puma stands for "Party Unity My Ass"...

619 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:59:15am

Y'know...right about now I have this sudden urge for a cupful of assorted fruits.

620 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:59:21am

re: #617 Granite Eagle

If you did not ask....I was going to.......

PUMA is the code word for all the Hillary supporters who will not vote for Barack Obama. PUMA stands for "Party Unity My Ass", as they were screwed royally in the waning days of their primary and at their convention.

They are voting for McCain/Palin, and they are angry. Very, very angry.

621 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 1:59:38am

re: #605 Colonel Panik

From what I have heard, he has left a tremendous amount of devistation in his wake. He may have a few enemies that would not care what happens to them or the rest of the world so long as they could destroy soros. Hate can be extremely corrosive.

No doubt he has competitors that would find advantage in such a scenario and be just as amoral or more so than him.

622 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:00:15am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

623 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:00:31am

re: #620 Intrepid

They also are telling pollsters that they are hugely supporting Obama to F up the polls

624 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:00:44am

Two Big Stories About ACORN Fraud in Ohio About to Hit

The ACORN issue is not going away.

But please be sure to be pissed off at John McCain for not giving ammunition to our political enemies in the meantime.

625 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:01:05am

If my &%#*#! computer wasn't giving me such a hard time...

:-(

626 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:01:43am

Thanks for the Fruitcup, lol. Since red isn't here, I guess I'll spike it myself.

627 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:02:10am

re: #622 littleoldlady

Good morning LOL.

628 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:02:10am

re: #623 Strike Hornet

They also are telling pollsters that they are hugely supporting Obama to F up the polls

I love them. Their sites keep me upbeat when the nay-sayers here get me down.

I go to Hillary Clinton Forum and PumaPac. They keep me sane.

:-)

629 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:02:12am

re: #621 FamHistoryGuy

From what I have heard, he has left a tremendous amount of devistation in his wake. He may have a few enemies that would not care what happens to them or the rest of the world so long as they could destroy soros. Hate can be extremely corrosive.

No doubt he has competitors that would find advantage in such a scenario and be just as amoral or more so than him.

The polls (if correct) don't seem to reflect this...or the idea of a rebellious PUMA vote.

630 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:03:54am

re: #622 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thanks for the fruit cup, LOL! Hope all is well with you and with the family of LOL.

I guess we could call them "little old husband" and "little old daughter/son".

Regardless, hope they're all well!

:-)

631 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:04:20am

re: #624 Sharmuta

Sharmuta! :-)

Okay, I have a logistic question, having just read this.

How do they get 1/2 million fake votes out of their 1/2 million fake registrations?

632 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:04:55am

re: #629 Dar ul Harbarian

The polls (if correct) don't seem to reflect this...or the idea of a rebellious PUMA vote.

Screw the polls. They're skewed anyway.

633 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:05:21am

re: #631 littleoldlady

That link is no good, m'lady.

634 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:06:10am

re: #629 Dar ul Harbarian

Polls depend upon the questions asked and the intent of those who answer them. Deception is often used to lull an enemy into complacency.

Are you sure you responded to the correct post? Mine was in reference to soros.

635 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:06:19am

FamHistoryGuy! :-)

Intrepid! :-)

That's "talloldman" and "meannastyteenager", except she's turning 20 next week so I'm searching for a new name for her...

636 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:07:23am
637 Mel Lono  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:07:42am

re: #625 littleoldlady

Morning Maam

638 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:08:49am

Mel! :-)

639 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:09:02am

re: #622 littleoldlady

Yay fruitcup! :)

Good morning, hope you're doing well today.

640 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:09:17am

re: #631 littleoldlady

Dump that many bad registrations at one time onto the system and some will get through. Also it calls the system into doubt as it its validity. Thus the cries of theft, etc., causing the less involved to stay at home and not vote.

641 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:09:37am

re: #628 Intrepid

This is a good one as well...

642 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:11:39am

re: #635 littleoldlady

FamHistoryGuy! :-)

Intrepid! :-)

That's "talloldman" and "meannastyteenager", except she's turning 20 next week so I'm searching for a new name for her...

Heh - don't worry, LOL. "Meannastyteenager" will become "Responsibleadultwoman" soon enough. And the scales will fall from her eyes so that she sees that her parents aren't the stupid idiots she thought they were.

643 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:12:17am

re: #624 Sharmuta

Two Big Stories About ACORN Fraud in Ohio About to Hit

The ACORN issue is not going away.

But please be sure to be pissed off at John McCain for not giving ammunition to our political enemies in the meantime.



The shared address
of ACORN and the New Party on Google Maps

Located there:

ACORN Housing Corporation
Mutual Housing
National Campaign For Jobs
New Party
New York City Human Resources
New York City Income Support

Is it connivance or just coincidence

644 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:12:54am

gop_patriot! :-)

I'm okay. You?

645 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:13:20am

re: #631 littleoldlady

Sharmuta! :-)

Okay, I have a logistic question, having just read this.

How do they get 1/2 million fake votes out of their 1/2 million fake registrations?

I don't know how they work. But I do know that voter fraud tied to 0bama is not going to go over well with people in this country. The vast majority of us are honest and vote once like we're supposed to. If American feel that their vote is going to be worthless thanks to fraud, that undermines our very system. This is bad ju-ju for team 0bama. From your ink:

Asked whether the Pennsylvania State Democratic Party had come forward to work with the GOP on the ACORN voter fraud issue, Gleason tersely shook his head. One source did say that much of the impetus for the fraud was "an Obama effort," as opposed to the Democratic Party as an institution.

This is bad news- for 0bama, but also for us. How are we supposed to trust our votes matter. Americans will NOT like this.

646 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:13:44am

re: #642 Intrepid

For now I've got "She'sStillDrivingMeCrazy". :-/

647 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:14:10am

re: #634 FamHistoryGuy

Polls depend upon the questions asked and the intent of those who answer them. Deception is often used to lull an enemy into complacency.

Are you sure you responded to the correct post? Mine was in reference to soros.

Oops...too sleepy.
Good thing I'm not driving.

648 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:14:20am

My new favorite PUMA blog is Hillbuzz!

649 Born Again Republican  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:15:17am
650 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:16:14am

re: #635 littleoldlady

That's "talloldman" and "meannastyteenager", except she's turning 20 next week so I'm searching for a new name for her...

How about "littlemissknowitall"?

Because everyone knows 20 year olds know everything. ;)

651 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:16:14am

Ok.
This picture is almost enough to make me a Sooners fan.

652 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:17:54am

re: #645 Sharmuta

This is bad news- for 0bama, but also for us. How are we supposed to trust our votes matter. Americans will NOT like this.

Sure. But what will anyone do about it?
Vote the bums out?

653 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:19:09am

re: #645 Sharmuta

What are we supposed to do about it after-the-fact?!

I can see I'm going to have yet another fight at the polls this year with my Democratic friends...

654 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:19:12am

re: #646 littleoldlady

For now I've got "She'sStillDrivingMeCrazy". :-/

Ah - so "Littleoldlady" and "Talloldman" are still "crazywackoparents" to "She's stilldrivingMeCrazy". Hold your ground. Soon she'll find out that her "Crazywackoparents" are actually "SmartMomandDad".

Hold on just a little bit longer. She'll come around!

(prayers for family of "tall/little old man/lady" and daughter)

655 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:19:19am

re: #652 Dar ul Harbarian

You know- it might not even come to that. Give it two years and we might see a real dramatic shift in democrat leadership.

656 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:20:28am

re: #644 littleoldlady

gop_patriot! :-)

I'm okay. You?

Glad to hear it, I'm doing well, thanks.

657 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:21:40am

re: #655 Sharmuta

You know- it might not even come to that. Give it two years and we might see a real dramatic shift in democrat leadership.

Kind of like how Chavez shifted leadership in his country?

658 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:22:03am

re: #653 littleoldlady

PUMAs = 5-7 million voters
ACORN = 1.5 million registrations

The rolls are being gone over in many of ACORN's targeted states, and I believe, despite Ohio, many of the fraudulent registrations are being chucked.

659 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:22:34am

i think this election still has a few surprises in store. i DO NOT believe that Obama truly leads by 7, 8, 10, 15 like some polls show. although McCain isn't Reagan, and despite the fact he is often perhaps too senatorial and polite for out taste, the plain fact is the he is immensely more qualified to be president, and I have confidence that enough people will see that come election day.

personally i'd like to see him run against democrats in general, and attach Obama to them much the way Obama has attached McCain to Bush. "We can't afford four more years of the reckless and corrupt partisan leadership of Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd. NOT the change we need". I believe there is a deep seated anger in the land against this congress and in particular the dem leadership, I would try lump Obama right in with them.

660 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:22:45am

re: #651 Dar ul Harbarian

Go Sooooooooners!

661 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:22:58am

My eyelids are in rebellion against the other parts of my eyes - they demand being shut.

Gonna head to bed now, folks. Keep up the good fight!

662 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:23:05am

re: #657 Dar ul Harbarian

Read this link:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

663 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:25:13am

'Night, Intrepid! :-)

664 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:26:44am

re: #659 alien_mind

i think this election still has a few surprises in store. i DO NOT believe that Obama truly leads by 7, 8, 10, 15 like some polls show. although McCain isn't Reagan, and despite the fact he is often perhaps too senatorial and polite for out taste, the plain fact is the he is immensely more qualified to be president, and I have confidence that enough people will see that come election day.

personally i'd like to see him run against democrats in general, and attach Obama to them much the way Obama has attached McCain to Bush. "We can't afford four more years of the reckless and corrupt partisan leadership of Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd. NOT the change we need". I believe there is a deep seated anger in the land against this congress and in particular the dem leadership, I would try lump Obama right in with them.

You may be right, especially if the Republican base is motivated and Obama supporters are complacent.

But the Democrats are ruthless and won't be put off by the idea of breaking a few rules.

665 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:29:31am

re: #662 Sharmuta

Read this link:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Interesting. We will see.

666 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:31:24am

re: #664 Dar ul Harbarian


But the Democrats are ruthless and won't be put off by the idea of breaking a few rules.


that goes without saying, they'll stop at nothing to win this thing.

667 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:31:26am

Anybody got any quick links to Obama's connection to Ayers?

/having a fight in an IM...

668 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:31:57am

re: #661 Intrepid

My eyelids are in rebellion against the other parts of my eyes - they demand being shut.

Gonna head to bed now, folks. Keep up the good fight!

Good night Int

669 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:33:28am

re: #667 littleoldlady

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

670 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:34:31am
671 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:34:36am

re: #667 littleoldlady

Here

672 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:35:09am
Anybody got any quick links to Obama's connection to Ayers?

/having a fight in an IM...


This is a good one

on the attempted coverupre: #667 littleoldlady

673 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:35:31am

re: #667 littleoldlady

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

674 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:37:29am

re: #667 littleoldlady

and Here

675 Strike Hornet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:37:55am

Good night all...

676 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:38:18am

I LOVE THIS PLACE! :-) :-) :-)

Thanks, guys!

677 RTLM  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:39:19am

re: #676 littleoldlady

I LOVE THIS PLACE! :-) :-) :-)

Thanks, guys!

678 RTLM  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:40:09am

Ah!

love INDEED!

(I meant)

679 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:42:44am

re: #676 littleoldlady

We love you, {lol}!

680 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:45:28am

Got to go. Between a need for new glasses and a new monitor, my eyes are telling me it time to get some rest. Y'all have a good moring.

681 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:46:52am

re: #676 littleoldlady

No kidding, there aren't many places you can go for instant information at 4:30ish in the morning. LOL

682 stonemason  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:05:30am

re: #438 LeePro

Hey...it blinked at me

683 stonemason  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:07:39am

re: #682 stonemason

wow, i just clicked on my nic...it seems I have taken the entire summer off in regards to what I pretend is my own blog...

Not a good thing if one wants people to actually come and read the darn thing. Oh well, maybe this week will be the.....

hey, what's that over there?

684 neocon hippie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:19:53am

re: #597 Scion9

That's excellent. I hope the swing states are getting bombarded with it.

685 jakes_stryker  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:21:37am

If I promise to start posting will you come back out to play?

686 red collar  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:22:47am

Good news from Canada!

The British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal ruled yesterday that a controversial article about Islam in Maclean's magazine did not violate the province's hate speech law, marking the third time this year the Canadian Islamic Congress has failed in its efforts to force the magazine to print a rebuttal.

In dismissing the complaint, the three-member tribunal ruled that the article by Mark Steyn, which was published in 2006 and described the demographic and ideological dangers posed by a growing Muslim population in the West, was not likely to expose Muslims to hatred or contempt.

687 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:34:45am

I just posted the McCain ACORN ad on my Facebook. Why? I have no idea. I'm wasting my time with the people my age. I even promised my co-worker I'd make a full on list of links and explanations to send it to her, but I don't even feel like doing it anymore. These people won't understand a damn thing. Either that, or they understand and choose to ignore.

688 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:40:37am

re: #687 TheMatrix31

What is your age? My son is 18 and most of his friends are voting McCain.

However, one is voting for Obama, and another is writing in Ron Paul. Ugh.

689 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:41:55am

re: #688 gop_patriot

What is your age? My son is 18 and most of his friends are voting McCain.

However, one is voting for Obama, and another is writing in Ron Paul. Ugh.

Turning 21 in December. And I live in LA.

**sigh**

690 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:42:31am

re: #687 TheMatrix31

I'm probably around the same age as you, and am just as exasperated. The worst thing isn't that people don't so much care, it's that they seem to almost completely rely on 3rd parties to tell them the truth and have very little in the way of deductive reasoning. It extends to their personal lives well beyond their thoughts on government, which doesn't bode well for the future.

691 akak  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:42:47am
Iran calls for halting oil price slide
Published: 10.11.08, 10:15 / Israel News
Iran's oil minister, Gholam Hossein Nozari, is calling for stability in the oil market, saying the biggest challenge now is falling demand for oil due to global economic recession.
Nozari told reporters Saturday that stability in the oil market is important both for producers and consumers. The stunning collapse in oil markets accelerated Friday, sending a barrel of crude plunging below $78. (AP)


how do you spell yippy kiyay?

692 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:43:07am

re: #687 TheMatrix31

Do it anyway. My kid posted something "Republicanesque" on her FaceBook page and was pleasantly surprised by a few positive responses.

She also talked someone out of voting for Obama last week.

/wish there was an award for that somewhere...

693 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:43:47am

re: #683 stonemason

Good blog, you should update more often. :)
And it may not have been updated in a while, but everything you said about Obama is being said again right now. All you need to do is change the date... :/

694 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:44:40am

re: #692 littleoldlady

Do it anyway. My kid posted something "Republicanesque" on her FaceBook page and was pleasantly surprised by a few positive responses.

She also talked someone out of voting for Obama last week.

/wish there was an award for that somewhere...

Out of all the people I've talked to over the months, I've only convinced one person to switch.

695 jakes_stryker  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:47:12am

re: #687 TheMatrix31

Don't give up. My kids felt the same way and all of a sudden they are finding more and more McCain/Palin supporters (or at least people who will not support Obama who are voting for McCain). My daughter is 27 and my oldest son is almost 25, youngest son is almost 22. Of course, it might help that both sons are in the Army?

696 Spirit93  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:48:43am

re: #687 TheMatrix31

For what it's worth, I understand your frustration, in fact, I'm in the same boat dealing with people I know (who are mostly NOT young). As many others have said, this election should not even be close, what the hell is wrong with these people?

697 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:49:31am

re: #694 TheMatrix31

You deserve the award, too! :-)

698 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:49:36am

re: #694 TheMatrix31

Out of all the people I've talked to over the months, I've only convinced one person to switch.

You are in LA...

I'm on the opposite coast less than an hour from DC and North VA and have worked there on and off for several years, so I know what its like to be surrounded. It's a Dem stronghold here for sure, but a bit less moonbattish than the Left Coast fortunately.

699 Spirit93  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:51:42am

re: #689 TheMatrix31

Turning 21 in December. And I live in LA.

**sigh**

One thing that might help you psychologically is to remember the rest of the country is not like CA, let alone LA.

700 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:52:11am

re: #689 TheMatrix31

Turning 21 in December. And I live in LA.

**sigh**

You find Republicans in the darndest places. Even in L.A. ;)

701 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:53:41am

re: #697 littleoldlady

You deserve the award, too! :-)

Everyone here says I should run for President, not necessarily because of my views, but I guess just because I give a damn and when I speak about things, they have no idea what I'm talking about so it sounds smart.

re: #698 Scion9

You are in LA...

I'm on the opposite coast less than an hour from DC and North VA and have worked there on and off for several years, so I know what its like to be surrounded. It's a Dem stronghold here for sure, but a bit less moonbattish than the Left Coast fortunately.

It's not even about moonbattish. People here just have no clue about anything. At least moonbats have their views and they know WHY they have their views. Some people I talk to are so utterly clueless. I've only heard ONE person articulate their reasoning for voting for Obama and that guy's basically a socialist anyway. The rest are completely lost.

702 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:55:33am

re: #700 gop_patriot

You find Republicans in the darndest places. Even in L.A. ;)

Avenged Sevenfold is Conservative?

703 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:56:10am

re: #701 TheMatrix31

My cousin says I should run a think tank.

/little does he know I'm just an observer here on the best one on the web! :-)

704 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:57:55am

Good morning, people.

My weird friend who sends me stuff finally sent something that makes sense................

Apple Computer reported today that it has developed computer chips that can be implanted and play music inside women's breasts. The music is in stereo, of course.

This is considered to be a major breakthrough because women are always complaining about men staring at their breasts, and not listening to them.

705 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 3:58:35am

re: #704 nonic

nonic! :-)

706 akak  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:00:46am

re: #703 littleoldlady

My cousin says I should run a think tank.

/little does he know I'm just an observer here on the best one on the web! :-)

nah fruitcup is more important & appreciated ;>)

707 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:01:11am

littleoldlady

Hello. :-)

For you alone, my second favorite joke............

(You have to read this outloud, at least in your head outloud.)

What has two legs and sleeps with cats?

708 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:02:31am

re: #702 TheMatrix31

Avenged Sevenfold is Conservative?

They're Republican, sort of conservative. Like someone said, as conservative as a metal band can be. LOL

Here and here.

From a couple of years ago, but hopefully nothing has changed. My favorite band by the way, and I am most decidedly not 21. LOL

709 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:02:38am

re: #706 akak

akak! :-)

Aw shucks! ;-)

re: #707 nonic

Ummm. ?

710 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:04:17am

littleoldlady

Give up? Want the answer?

711 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:04:54am

re: #710 nonic

Yes, please!

712 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:05:38am

re: #701 TheMatrix31

I've only heard ONE person articulate their reasoning for voting for Obama and that guy's basically a socialist anyway. The rest are completely lost.

I think it's more likely that even the ones that can't articulate why they are going to vote for him are socialists with a little "S" as well and just aren't aware of it.

Jefferson was aware that the form of government that he wanted, with a free market, a small government and as much power for the individual over their own life as possible while maintaining a State capable of guaranteeing those freedoms wasn't one that lended itself naturally to mankinds social instincts and required both education and vigilance to preserve.

That education and vigilance is gone, and we are going to back running into the arms of the most powerful Tribal Chieftans that we can find in the Socialist Nannystate, as it is what people have been doing for time untold. Of course what was once just barbarian Tribalism is now being repackaged for the new millenium as "Progressive" and sold as something new for even those that are politically aware, yet historically inept.

713 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:05:47am

MRS. Katz!

Yuk! yuk! yuk!

714 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:07:25am

Oy!

Sends it off in email...

;-)

715 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:12:35am

712 Scion 9
701 Matrix 31

I heard an audio yesterday, pretty sure the link was from here, where 2 radio guys went out on the street to question some voters as to why they were voting for Obama.

So they asked 3 different voters, "Do you support Obama because of his pro-life position or because he wants to keep the troops in Iraq till we win the war?" And they answered like, "Well, both, yeah, I think both positions are important, I agree with Obama on those."

And they asked, "How do you feel about Sarah Palin? Are you okay with Obama picking her for his running mate? Do you think Sarah Palin will be a good VP if Obama is elected?" And they answered, "Yeah, sure, I support Obama on Palin, I tjhink he was right to choose her for his running mate."

(And think..... people like this are not only allowed to vote, they're allowed to procreate.)

716 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:13:31am

re: #708 gop_patriot

They're Republican, sort of conservative. Like someone said, as conservative as a metal band can be. LOL

Here and here.

From a couple of years ago, but hopefully nothing has changed. My favorite band by the way, and I am most decidedly not 21. LOL

That's not surprising, especially given some of the lyrical content of their latest album. I would describe them as at the very least being patriotic.

717 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:13:41am

re: #708 gop_patriot

They're Republican, sort of conservative. Like someone said, as conservative as a metal band can be. LOL

Here and here.

From a couple of years ago, but hopefully nothing has changed. My favorite band by the way, and I am most decidedly not 21. LOL

Defintely not my favorite band, can't stand the screaming. But musically, they're awesome. Ironically, my favorite band is Bad Religion, who completely goes against everything I personally stand for. They're just that damn good.

And oh, I'm having some major problems on LGF with Firefox 3. Why the hell does the site keep locking up every time I try to use CTRL + F?

718 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:13:57am

re: #715 nonic

HOLY CANNOLI!

719 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:16:31am

re: #715 nonic

Yeah, that was from the Howard Stern show. It was black people that were trying to explain why they were voting for Obama. You can't really trust those kinds of ambush clips though. Those are likely people that wouldn't normally be voting at all in the first place, and may not be now, and you also have no idea how many people they had to interview to get the idiot soundbytes.

720 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:17:05am

littleoldlady

You remember aussiemagpie, don't you?

721 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:17:38am

re: #720 nonic

Did something happen?!

/I thought I just saw her here the other day...

722 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:19:50am

719 scion 9

I'm not as innocent and trusting as I look. LOL

That's why I didn't mention that it was blacks. Which is kind of beside the point, because I'M VERY SURE there ARE indeed people out there that stupid and uninformed, and they come in all colors.

723 Evil Klown  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:22:17am

No disparaging remarks about klowns please. Thank you.

724 akak  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:22:20am

re: #715 nonic

712 Scion 9
701 Matrix 31

I heard an audio yesterday, pretty sure the link was from here, where 2 radio guys went out on the street to question some voters as to why they were voting for Obama.

So they asked 3 different voters, "Do you support Obama because of his pro-life position or because he wants to keep the troops in Iraq till we win the war?" And they answered like, "Well, both, yeah, I think both positions are important, I agree with Obama on those."

And they asked, "How do you feel about Sarah Palin? Are you okay with Obama picking her for his running mate? Do you think Sarah Palin will be a good VP if Obama is elected?" And they answered, "Yeah, sure, I support Obama on Palin, I tjhink he was right to choose her for his running mate."

(And think..... people like this are not only allowed to vote, they're allowed to procreate.)

725 jakes_stryker  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:24:34am

re: #715 nonic

712 Scion 9
701 Matrix 31

I heard an audio yesterday, pretty sure the link was from here, where 2 radio guys went out on the street to question some voters as to why they were voting for Obama.

So they asked 3 different voters, "Do you support Obama because of his pro-life position or because he wants to keep the troops in Iraq till we win the war?" And they answered like, "Well, both, yeah, I think both positions are important, I agree with Obama on those."

And they asked, "How do you feel about Sarah Palin? Are you okay with Obama picking her for his running mate? Do you think Sarah Palin will be a good VP if Obama is elected?" And they answered, "Yeah, sure, I support Obama on Palin, I tjhink he was right to choose her for his running mate."

(And think..... people like this are not only allowed to vote, they're allowed to procreate.)


Sadly, at this point, I'm not really shocked. A lot of people don't know where Obama stands on anything, but the scary ones are the ones that don't care!

726 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:25:37am

re: #716 Scion9

Yep. Critical Acclaim for one.

re: #717 TheMatrix31

Quite frankly, I love the screaming. ;)
But I have to say, people who don't know me are surprised that I like them, as I'm a woman, and 41. But I grew up listening to all kinds of music; including lots of punk and metal/rock in my jr high and high school days.

727 Scion9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:25:50am

re: #722 nonic

Oh, like I said, I'm right outside of DC. I know quite a few myself that are equally as uninformed and vapid that are white. I wouldn't call them 'likely voters' though. That is the crowd I remind to hit the polls come Nov 5th.

728 Bubblehead II  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:26:42am

Just a quick drive by to post this. If it is a repeat, my apologies.

Far-Right Austrian Politician Joerg Haider Killed in Car Crash

729 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:27:11am

littleoldlady

Oh, no, nothing "happened" to my knowledge. I'm sure sure she's fine. Apparently she's been working a lot lately, and I think they moved, too.

No, what I was going to say was I hosted her son and his GF here for a few days in August. What a nice young couple. Even like, "old fashioned" polite. Very nice people, good houseguests. Really a pleasure.

When they left here, they were headed down to DC for a few days before going out to LA. I don't think they were planning any time in Philly, though.

You know, when one of my sons was in Australia for a summer internship, aussiemagpie met him at the airport, took him under her wing, put him up at her house and then at a friend's, took him around sightseeing. She was really, really great to him. Put MY mind at ease. So I was eager to return the favor, even if only in a little way.

730 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:29:21am

Well y'all, it's 6:30 in the morning here, what the heck am I doing up?

Heading to bed for a few hours sleep. Talk to you later, hope everyone has a great Saturday! :)

731 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:31:49am

re: #729 nonic

Oh, I remember when your son went to Australia and met up with aussiemagpie. It was very nice of you to reciprocate! :-)

732 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:32:36am

'Night, gop! :-)

/I am also trying to extricate my butt from this chair...

733 jakes_stryker  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:35:20am

Guess I'd better do the same, hope you get a little shut eye

734 nonic  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:38:13am

727 scion 9

It's depressing, isn't it? The world is seriously f'd up, and here we are with not much we can do about it but try and keep our own spirits up.

Innocent and trusting.................awwwww.
[Link: reallyrome.com...]

735 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:39:58am

Okay, the dog (in distress) made up my mind for me...

Good day, ALL!™

Great seeing you, nonic! :-)

736 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:42:09am

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

You might have already seen this.
Rezko is squealing like a pig.

Rezko also was friendly with Obama - offering him a job when he finished law school, funding his earliest political campaigns and purchasing a lot next to his house. But based on the known facts, charges so far and testimony at Rezko's trial, there's no indication there'll be an October surprise that could hurt the Democratic presidential nominee - even though Rezko says prosecutors are pressing him for dirt about Obama.
"I think this strikes fear into the Blagojevich administration and the Statehouse Democrats but not into the Obama campaign," says state Sen. Kirk Dillard, R-Westmont, a John McCain delegate to the GOP convention but an old friend of Obama.

737 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:44:38am

even though Rezko says prosecutors are pressing him for dirt about Obama.
They should not try to dig up dirt.

Racists.

738 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:45:17am
739 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:46:18am

re: #736 ibmkeyboard
We seem to be on the same page pretty much. ;-)

740 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:51:33am
741 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:52:00am

re: #739 J.D.

We seem to be on the same page pretty much. ;-)

I read Drudge before my fruitcup and my hot chocolate.

Sometimes I get a heavy heart.

using my Lyndon Johnson mime.

742 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:57:06am

Why is Pres. Bush on this early on a Saturday morning?

743 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:57:25am

740 Wyatt Earp 10/11/08 4:51:33 am reply quote

The vote by the 16-member board was certain to spark a controversy after an online poll conducted by the bridge district found that half of 4,147 Bay Area residents who responded preferred that no suicide barrier in any form be built.


Did everyone jump off the bridge?
4,147?

A man loses all his money, wife leaves him, bank takes his car and house,
and damn hippies wont let him jump off the Golden gate bridge.

Life is not fair.

744 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:57:58am

re: #727 Scion9

Oh, like I said, I'm right outside of DC. I know quite a few myself that are equally as uninformed and vapid that are white. I wouldn't call them 'likely voters' though. That is the crowd I remind to hit the polls come Nov 5th.

LOL!

745 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:58:31am

re: #742 MandyManners

Why is Pres. Bush on this early on a Saturday morning?

bank guarantees?

746 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 4:59:36am


Why Ayers Matters
by Michael Reagan

To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.

Their reaction to the continuing revelations that disprove that claim is one of sheer panic -- and they have a good reason to be scared witless that any in-depth probe of what went on between the two comrades will reveal Obama’s true colors -- all of them dark red!

If the truth becomes better known -- and it will if the Ayers issue is doggedly pursued -- it will be clear that Obama was not only deeply immersed the fetid swamp of Chicago’s far-left political scene, but was from the very beginning of his career carefully groomed by the city’s socialist left to follow the path he’s on now in his quest for the presidency of the United States.

Giving credence to the charge that Obama was “groomed by an older generation of radical leftists for insertion into the American political process, trading on good looks, brains, educational pedigree, and the desire of the vast majority of the voting public to right the historical racial wrongs of the [past]” as the American Thinkers’ Thomas Lifson has written:

• Obama belonged to the socialist New Party, described by Lifson as “a radical left organization, established in 1992, to amalgamate far-left groups and push the United States into socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left.” A March 22, 1998 article by John Nichols in These Times revealed, “After six years, the party has built what is arguably the most sophisticated left-leaning political operation the country has seen since the decline of the Farmer-Labor, Progressive and Non-Partisan League groupings of the early part of the century.”
• Obama has been allied with ACORN and their Project Vote, the radical leftist group now charged with massive vote fraud aimed at electing Barack Obama president of the United States. Obama has long been directly involved with ACORN. An article by Toni Foulkes of ACORN, “Case Study: Chicago-The Barack Obama Campaign,” which appeared in Social Policy magazine in 2004, Foulkes revealed ACORN noticed Obama when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project. Wrote Foulks: “He was a very good organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act … Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar … and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them). Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office.”...

747 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:02:28am

re: #741 ibmkeyboard
Lyndon Johnson said that?

748 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:03:42am

Austrian far-right leader Haider dies in road accident

Outspoken Austrian far-right leader Joerg Haider, who sparked international outrage with comments praising Nazi policies, died on Saturday when his car veered off the road.

Haider, 58, suffered serious head and chest injuries when his car flipped over several times and died en route to hospital, police said.

/Atlas, Baron, Dymphna, and Fjordman mourn, there will be no further LGF obituary

749 summergurl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:03:54am

I have heard McCain feistier with Romney than with Obama. What's up with that?

750 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:05:35am

re: #745 ibmkeyboard

bank guarantees?

But, why this early?

751 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:06:44am

re: #748 Killian Bundy

Austrian far-right leader Haider dies in road accident


/Atlas, Baron, Dymphna, and Fjordman mourn, there will be no further LGF obituary

Did his car have help going off the road?

752 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:08:45am

re: #747 J.D.

Lyndon Johnson said that?

My fellow Americans, I come before you today with a heavy heart!


I will not send American boys to fight a war the Vietnamese boys should be fighting for themselves.


When I pick this frigging dog up by the ears,
you should hear it and my daughters scream.

I made that last one up.

I kept everyone in my bunker laughing while we were being rocket attacked by the North Vietnamese.

753 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:09:12am

re: #750 MandyManners

But, why this early?

just guessing?

754 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:10:39am

Good news. The stock market can't crash on weekends.

755 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:10:56am

re: #750 MandyManners

But, why this early?

/he's in a foreign time zone

756 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:12:03am

re: #753 ibmkeyboard

just guessing?

Beats me.

757 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:12:04am

re: #754 Killgore Trout

Good news. The stock market can't crash on weekends.

It can in Israel!

758 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:12:25am

re: #752 ibmkeyboard

I made that last one up.

I kept everyone in my bunker laughing while we were being rocket attacked by the North Vietnamese.


I'll bet you did!

759 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:12:31am

re: #755 Killian Bundy

/he's in a foreign time zone

Where was the G7 meeting?

760 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:12:56am

re: #754 Killgore Trout

Good news. The stock market can't crash on weekends.


Oh happy day!

761 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:13:30am

re: #757 nevergiveup

It can in Israel!

Do Israelis get a two-day weekend, Friday and Saturday?

762 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:13:37am

re: #754 Killgore Trout

Good news. The stock market can't crash on weekends.

/I'm enjoying the break, last week was crazy, and I still think that was worst of it

763 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:14:17am

re: #759 MandyManners

Where was the G7 meeting?

I thought it was in Washington? Although from the polls and McCain's campaign tactics, Washington is about to become occupied territory.

764 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:14:39am

re: #761 MandyManners

Do Israelis get a two-day weekend, Friday and Saturday?

Yes, but it is open on Sunday.

765 USA  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:14:40am

Non-defeatists will find this interesting:
Acorn article proves Obama trained Acorn leaders

Obama's campaign website states:
Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Is that really a FACT, or just another lie? Let's take a look at a quote from a 2004 article - Case Study: Chicago- The Barack Obama Campaign - written by Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN Leader, which was published in the journal Social Policy. Did we mention that Social Policy recently pulled this particular article from their website, while leaving links to all other articles up?
"Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5,000 of them).
Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends."
Not only does Foulkes boast of Obama's ACORN leadership training, but also makes it clear that Obama's post-law school organizing of "Project VOTE" in 1992 was undertaken in direct partnership with ACORN. The tie between Project VOTE and ACORN is also something that Obama and others have attempted to disprove in recent weeks as ACORN has come under fire for allegations of voter registration fraud.
As recently as March 2008, the Los Angeles Times also made reference to Barack Obama's involvement with ACORN:
"At the time, Talbot worked at the social action group ACORN and initially considered Obama a competitor. But she became so impressed with his work that she invited him to help train her staff." (LA Times, March 2, 2008)
All this information was easily pulled up with minimal time investment. It took less than thirty minutes to find, despite attempts by some to bury the truth. If I could find this with little effort, imagine what could be dug up with a serious, in-depth investigation. Scary, isn't it?
Nevertheless, Barack Obama's campaign website continues to lie and deny the truth about his involvement and association with ACORN. No matter how many times you say it, it does not make it true. The facts do not lie, Senator Obama. It's time to come clean and tell the truth, and it's time for the American people to demand it.
***Update: A person who left a comment on the story below (thank you) has notified us that the Obama website has changed. We have done a follow up story that can be read following this link Here is our follow up story:
[Link: www.clevelandleader.com...] ***
766 arizona9  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:15:57am
I just posted the McCain ACORN ad on my Facebook.

I have an odd gripe with some of McCain's ads....the announcer. That female announcer they use most of the time is really annoying. I find myself wincing when she says things like 'so disrespectful'. She sometimes sounds like a parody of someone trying to sound authoratative. I don't know if they think women will be more likely to sit through the ad with a female voice..and the fact that she's female isn't my problem with her...it's her voice, the inflection. Replace her.

767 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:16:35am

STOCKS SOAR! (IN BAGHDAD)


As the Dow plummeted nearly 700 points yesterday to fall well below the 9,000 mark, the Iraqi stock exchange -

where this broker was merrily keeping up with her booming business - was flourishing, buoyed by four-year lows in violence and hopes of a reconstruction windfall.

Last month, Iraq's general index went up nearly 40 percent, about the same percentage the Dow dropped over the past year. The jovial trading-floor mood is reminiscent of Wall Street's bygone "greed is good" era of the 1980s.

768 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:17:20am

re: #763 nevergiveup

I thought it was in Washington? Although from the polls and McCain's campaign tactics, Washington is about to become occupied territory.

/like I said, foreign time zone

769 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:19:32am
770 ErislDysnomia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:20:23am

re: #353 Syrah

I hope that in the next debate, McCain will grab Obama by his acorns and beat him over the head with them.

Let me get a harsh truth on record:

Our knowledge of Acorn's interference in our electoral process is only partially known at this point, but even so it looks very bad. Election results in many battlegrounds will be close, and with Acorn's interference, very possibly invalid.

Our country is not a Banana Republic, though, and this cannot be tolerated. Fixing it, though, will take time, to uncover and cleanse the system of the fraud and all the fraudulent "voters."

Therefore the elections should be postponed, say, a month or two to allow time for a more complete investigation and de-lousing of the pool of "registered voters."

In addition, a Class Action Lawsuit by We, the People of the United States against Acorn and its supporters and affiliates should be initiated to bankrupt the fuckers.

-Eris

771 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:22:00am

re: #770 ErislDysnomia

It's kinda early to be smoking that stuff isn't it?
/

772 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:22:06am

re: #763 nevergiveup

I thought it was in Washington? Although from the polls and McCain's campaign tactics, Washington is about to become occupied territory.

But, why this early?!

773 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:22:31am

re: #764 nevergiveup

Yes, but it is open on Sunday.

That's what I thought.

774 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:24:14am

re: #772 MandyManners

But, why this early?!

I guess because it is Saturday and most people are still lounging around. Now,me, I've been at work since 7:00 AM. But then my life sucks.

775 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:25:18am

re: #353 Syrah

I hope that in the next debate, McCain will grab Obama by his acorns and beat him over the head with them get a nut off,
the stage.

I couldn't resist fixing that.

776 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:26:17am

Re: Complaint against Steyn dismissed [Mark Steyn]
Man, have I ever missed Mark Steyn! Thank heaven he's back.

777 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:26:38am

re: #775 ibmkeyboard

re: #353 Syrah

I hope that in the next debate, McCain will grab Obama by his acorns and beat him over the head with them get a nut off,
the stage.

I couldn't resist fixing that.

I kinda know what your aiming at, but as written it could be taken a few ways. Want to fix it again?

778 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:27:15am

re: #772 MandyManners

But, why this early?!

It's Saturday 8:00 a.m.. He disappointed the open markets at 10:30 a.m. yesterday by cheer leading without substance.

/which is the better time?

779 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:27:46am

re: #774 nevergiveup

I guess because it is Saturday and most people are still lounging around. Now,me, I've been at work since 7:00 AM. But then my life sucks.

I am on my AIG vacation in the Bahamas.

just kidding, just kidding!

780 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:28:59am

I think it might be wise to avoid looking at polling data for the next week or so. With that awful McCain soundbite and "Troopergate" being splashed all over the MSM it is going to look ugly. But we have to keep fighting. People are learning what Obama is all about. When I went door to door yesterday some of those folks sounded like they'd vote for a corpse before they'd vote for Obama.

781 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:29:06am

re: #779 ibmkeyboard

I am on my AIG vacation in the Bahamas.

just kidding, just kidding!

Are the Bahamas a non extradition territory?

782 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:29:36am

re: #767 Killgore Trout

STOCKS SOAR! (IN BAGHDAD)

Wow, let's move to Iraq! The next economic superpower!

783 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:29:45am
...The paperback America Alone includes a new introduction by Mark looking at some of the reaction to the book since it first appeared - while in The Tyranny Of Nice Kathy Shaidle and Pete Vere examine the more litigious ends of that reaction, and shine a long overdue spotlight on the disgusting activities of Canada's "human rights" commissions. Aside from Shaidle and Vere's trenchant expose of the Canadian state's assault on liberty, The Tyranny Of Nice also includes a special introduction by Mark reflecting on his own travails over the last year.

Whatever they were intended as, the Canadian Islamic Congress lawsuits were a vindication of the twin themes of America Alone - a resurgent Islam, and the west's loss of civilizational confidence. So The Tyranny Of Nice makes a perfect companion to the new paperback of America Alone.

Order America Alone: The End Of The World As We Know It with The Tyranny Of Nice together at one low price and Hatemonger Steyn himself will be happy to sign both to you or a loved one. Or hated one.


AMERICA ALONE/CANADIAN TYRANNY

784 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:30:46am

re: #777 nevergiveup

I kinda know what your aiming at, but as written it could be taken a few ways. Want to fix it again?


I hope that in the next debate, McCain will grab Obama by his acorns and hand them to him.

fixed.

785 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:30:47am

re: #774 nevergiveup

I guess because it is Saturday and most people are still lounging around. Now,me, I've been at work since 7:00 AM. But then my life sucks.

But, most 9-5er's are still in bed or just waking up!

786 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:31:27am

re: #778 Killian Bundy

It's Saturday 8:00 a.m.. He disappointed the open markets at 10:30 a.m. yesterday by cheer leading without substance.

/which is the better time?

Is it to bolster Monday's market?

787 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:31:36am

re: #781 nevergiveup

Are the Bahamas a non extradition territory?

I am using the prison lap top.

788 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:33:22am

s

789 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:33:34am
Contact: Nicholas J. Ashooh
Senior Vice President, Communications
212-770-3523
AIG CLARIFIES AGENT MEETING
NEW YORK, October 8, 2008 –American International Group, Inc. (AIG) Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Edward M. Liddy sent a letter today to U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson to clarify the circumstances of a business event held by an AIG subsidiary, discussed during an October 7, 2008 hearing by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
The event, mischaracterized as an “Executive Retreat,” was held by one of AIG’s insurance subsidiaries for independent life insurance agents, not for AIG employees. These agents were top business producers for the company, and of the more than 100 attendees, only 10 were employees of the AIG subsidiary who were there to represent their company. No AIG executives from headquarters attended. The meeting was planned months before the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s loan to AIG.
In his letter, Mr. Liddy assured Secretary Paulson that AIG now faces very different challenges, and “that we owe our employees and the American public new standards and approaches.” Mr. Liddy assured Secretary of the Treasury Paulson that AIG is “reevaluating the costs of all aspects of our operations in light of the new circumstances in which we are all operating.”
Mr. Liddy concluded, that “AIG is focused on doing what is necessary to address our capital structure, repay the Fed credit facility and emerge as a healthy global insurer. In the meantime, our insurance businesses continue to operate normally and satisfy the needs of our policy holders.”
# # #
American International Group, Inc. (AIG), a world leader in insurance and financial services, is the leading international insurance organization with operations in more than 130 countries and jurisdictions. AIG companies serve commercial, institutional and individual customers through the most extensive worldwide property-casualty and life insurance networks of any insurer. In addition, AIG companies are leading providers of retirement services, financial services and asset management around the world. AIG's common stock is listed on the New York Stock Exchange, as well as the stock exchanges in Ireland and Tokyo.
790 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:34:05am

re: #788 MandyManners

s

Mandy did you fall down and cant get up?

791 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:34:12am

Will thos AIG assholes be required to return the money they spent on that retreat?

792 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:35:09am

By the way, I had a very nice dream last night. I dreamed Sarah Palin wasn't married and we were falling in love ... it was just hugs & kisses & holding hands ...

I think I need a girlfriend, STAT!

793 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:35:09am

re: #790 ibmkeyboard

Mandy did you fall down and cant get up?

Oops. I said "market" when I meant tos say "markets".

794 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:35:27am

re: #791 MandyManners

Will thos AIG assholes be required to return the money they spent on that retreat?


Nopa.

795 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:35:50am

re: #791 MandyManners

Will thos AIG assholes be required to return the money they spent on that retreat?

The Senate hearings are over, the TV cameras are off, nobody gives a shit anymore. Sad but true I am afraid.

796 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:35:57am

re: #791 MandyManners

Will thos AIG assholes be required to return the money they spent on that retreat?

I hope they put them in prison with a spa trainer named Leroy the Back Door.

797 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:36:25am

re: #792 Tigger2005

By the way, I had a very nice dream last night. I dreamed Sarah Palin wasn't married and we were falling in love ... it was just hugs & kisses & holding hands ...

I think I need a girlfriend, STAT!

They say people talk the most on the third date, so hang in there!

798 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:36:27am

re: #786 MandyManners

Is it to bolster Monday's market?

Bond markets are closed for Columbus Day so it's a semi-market holiday.

/any day Administration officials keep their mouths shut, including Bush, unless it's something substantive, the better

799 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:37:28am

re: #797 J.D.

They say people talk the most on the third date, so hang in there!

Shit if you get to a third date, your half way to getting hitched. But then you stop talking.

800 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:37:29am

re: #792 Tigger2005

By the way, I had a very nice dream last night. I dreamed Sarah Palin wasn't married and we were falling in love ... it was just hugs & kisses & holding hands ...

I think I need a girlfriend, STAT!

LOL! I wonder what Freud would say.

I have dreamed about this election. Rather, I've had nightmares. I think at one point I get saturated with the toxicity.

801 Spirit93  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:37:54am

re: #754 Killgore Trout

Good news. The stock market can't crash on weekends.

I actually think it's going to go up on Monday because of people putting in orders for "bargains" over the weekend. Just a guess of course.

802 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:37:54am

re: #794 J.D.

Nopa.

Why not?!

803 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:38:58am

re: #795 nevergiveup

The Senate hearings are over, the TV cameras are off, nobody gives a shit anymore. Sad but true I am afraid.

When dealing with a misbehaving kid, ya' gotta' be consistent.

804 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:38:59am

re: #798 Killian Bundy

Bond markets are closed for Columbus Day so it's a semi-market holiday.

/any day Administration officials keep their mouths shut, including Bush, unless it's something substantive, the better


They need to just shut the hell up and let the markets do the talking.

805 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:39:19am

re: #796 ibmkeyboard

I hope they put them in prison with a spa trainer named Leroy the Back Door.

Ouch.

806 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:40:09am

re: #798 Killian Bundy

Bond markets are closed for Columbus Day so it's a semi-market holiday.

/any day Administration officials keep their mouths shut, including Bush, unless it's something substantive, the better

So why does the administration not get the correlation and just shut up?

807 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:41:00am

re: #802 MandyManners

Why not?!

It's a done deal. Over. Yesterday's news.
They'd best get out there and sell their asses off next year since they owe us Big-Time.

808 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:42:28am

re: #804 ibmkeyboard

They need to just shut the hell up and let the markets do the talking.

Bush will speak at so and so time.

And then he just spouts platitudes.

/the markets, anticipating something of substance, are not impress and then proceed to go South, that's the way that works

809 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:44:28am

re: #807 J.D.

It's a done deal. Over. Yesterday's news.
They'd best get out there and sell their asses off next year since they owe us Big-Time.

That's just crooked.

810 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:45:00am

re: #809 MandyManners

That's just crooked.

Maybe the stockholders can sue.

811 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:45:02am

re: #806 MandyManners

So why does the administration not get the correlation and just shut up?

Good question.

/talking on Saturday is cool, otherwise, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything

812 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:45:49am

re: #805 MandyManners

Ouch.

AIG cut my pension in half when they took over the good company I worked for.
Many of my friends left before that happened, I stayed hoping for better days.
Cut off our free disability, premiums so high many employees dropped it-
and now on disability and welfare.
Anytime they lost money they raised our health insurance premiums, life coverages, etc.

Yeah,
I hope Leroy the Back Door is there to greet them at the prison showers and spa services.

813 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:46:31am

re: #810 Tigger2005

Maybe the stockholders can sue.

On what grounds?

814 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:46:56am

re: #811 Killian Bundy

Good question.

/talking on Saturday is cool, otherwise, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything

Maybe they *think* it's nice.

815 nevergiveup  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:47:25am

6 Horrible Lessons Hollywood Loves to Teach Kids

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

Funny read

816 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:48:05am

re: #812 ibmkeyboard

AIG cut my pension in half when they took over the good company I worked for.
Many of my friends left before that happened, I stayed hoping for better days.
Cut off our free disability, premiums so high many employees dropped it-
and now on disability and welfare.
Anytime they lost money they raised our health insurance premiums, life coverages, etc.

Yeah,
I hope Leroy the Back Door is there to greet them at the prison showers and spa services.

Yet they can spend $23,000.00 on manicures and sea-weed wraps.

817 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:48:07am

Good morning all y'all - from a pleasant (62 degrees, going up to 74 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

818 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:48:30am

re: #782 Tigger2005

Meanwhile... There is no such thing in Iran.

819 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:49:44am

Good morning, Real.

820 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:50:28am

re: #815 nevergiveup

6 Horrible Lessons Hollywood Loves to Teach Kids

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

Funny read

Oh, that is funny.

821 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:50:48am

Gonna' get some caffeine.

822 onslow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:51:22am
823 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:51:35am

re: #804 ibmkeyboard

They need to just shut the hell up and let the markets do the talking.

Sometimes I wish McCain would follow the same advice and just shut up. Oh why, WHY, can't he learn to say what he needs to say while spinning it to his advantage? He didn't have to say Obama is a "decent man" or that we "don't have to be afraid" of an Obama Presidency. He knows full that Obama is less than decent and that we have plenty to fear from a President Obama. You can tell from the way he turned away from that lady that he knew he wasn't being completely honest with her about how he feels about Obama.

All he had to say was, "We don't need to be making threats or spreading wild rumors. The facts about my opponent are damaging enough. Let's just stick to those."

824 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:51:46am

re: #816 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy - how are you today?
I heard someone from AIG say that the money they spent at that "spa" was something they do every year and it's for their National Independent Life Insurance(?) salespeople and that it always pays for itself and a little more every year.
Just sayin...................

825 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:52:38am

re: #809 MandyManners

That's just crooked.


That's the way it is.

826 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:54:12am

re: #825 J.D.
Hey {J.D.} - how are you this morning?

827 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:54:15am

re: #812 ibmkeyboard
Whoa! That's terrible! Damn!

828 Perry  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:55:19am

Good morning

First update I've seen on Dean Barnett over at Hot Air:

Dean still in fragile state on a breathing machine in ICU. He is very willful and is fighting hard – the doctors are so impressed with him. His downward spiral stopped on Thursday, and we hope that with the continued prayers he will turn a corner this week end. He is in and out of consciousness.
829 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:55:28am

re: #826 realwest

Hey {J.D.} - how are you this morning?

Hey {realwest}. I'm pretty good. Imbibed a bit too much last night, though...
kicking my own butt today! And how are you this fine morning?

830 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:56:23am
831 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:57:23am

re: #816 MandyManners

Yet they can spend $23,000.00 on manicures and sea-weed wraps.

I didn't mention losing part of my life savings of nearly $200,000 dollars.
Some company called JUNK- yard dog- and Sanford and Sons Bonds,
Sent me a letter the other day telling me I have 4,000 dollars left,
couldn't buy a used car.
Maybe Wall Mart will hire me?

/don't get me started.

YO

832 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:57:28am

re: #828 Perry
That is a tough deal.

833 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:58:04am

re: #829 J.D. I'm doing ok, slept in more or less the same damn position all night, however and left shoulder (upon which I laid) is kinda pissed off at me, other than that I'm doing ok.
How come you "imbibed" too much? Celebrating anything?

834 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:59:37am

re: #831 ibmkeyboard
OK, you are the first person I have heard tell of the effects of the AIG mess. Wow.

835 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:00:22am

re: #830 taxfreekiller
Hey TFK! Yeah, well "Billy Boy" Ayers wouldn't be all that smug if he were to suddenly find himself amongst a group of us, now would he, hmmmm?

836 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:01:02am

re: #824 realwest

Good morning Mandy - how are you today?
I heard someone from AIG say that the money they spent at that "spa" was something they do every year and it's for their National Independent Life Insurance(?) salespeople and that it always pays for itself and a little more every year.
Just sayin...................

I don't buy it. When you're in financial trouble, you don't go toddlin' off to an extravagant event!

837 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:01:50am

re: #825 J.D.

That's the way it is.

Such shit will continue if they're allowed to just skate away.

838 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:02:19am

re: #833 realwest

I'm doing ok, slept in more or less the same damn position all night, however and left shoulder (upon which I laid) is kinda pissed off at me, other than that I'm doing ok.
How come you "imbibed" too much? Celebrating anything?


I could show you all sorts of shoulder stretches! lol
Celebrating? Uh...no...how I wish...

839 formercorpsman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:02:31am

re: #770 ErislDysnomia

Let me get a harsh truth on record:

Our knowledge of Acorn's interference in our electoral process is only partially known at this point, but even so it looks very bad. Election results in many battlegrounds will be close, and with Acorn's interference, very possibly invalid.

Our country is not a Banana Republic, though, and this cannot be tolerated. Fixing it, though, will take time, to uncover and cleanse the system of the fraud and all the fraudulent "voters."

Therefore the elections should be postponed, say, a month or two to allow time for a more complete investigation and de-lousing of the pool of "registered voters."

In addition, a Class Action Lawsuit by We, the People of the United States against Acorn and its supporters and affiliates should be initiated to bankrupt the fuckers.

-Eris

That is an excellent idea.

Furthermore, knowing they are given federal money, perhaps a few politicians as well.

840 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:02:48am

re: #831 ibmkeyboard

I didn't mention losing part of my life savings of nearly $200,000 dollars.
Some company called JUNK- yard dog- and Sanford and Sons Bonds,
Sent me a letter the other day telling me I have 4,000 dollars left,
couldn't buy a used car.
Maybe Wall Mart will hire me?

/don't get me started.

Where did it go?!
YO

841 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:03:45am

re: #836 MandyManners
That's why I said "Just sayin.........."

842 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:05:56am

re: #839 formercorpsman
Good morning! I agree with you on that (though I also confess if McCain were leading by 6 instead of down by 6 I wouldn't be for putting off the election!).

843 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:06:27am

re: #823 Tigger2005

Ya got a point. People are angry. Really angry. I kinda understand why McCain said what he did. Kinda. To some he may seem to be caving, but nobody in the media is being fair-minded either. If I watched any TV (which I don't), I'd probably be soaking up all this good angst that's flowing over the waves as well. The clips I've seen on the web of some of McCain's crowds and the people who are speaking to him are no less 'angry' than I am. It seems to me that if McCain actually encouraged the anger the media would use it against him and so would obama. We'd probably have a Dean moment if he really let go. We don't need that - I don't think. We just have to remain resolved, pound the ground, refute the errors, point out the glaring lack of sound judgment on the part of obama, and let our votes do the talking.

844 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:06:38am

re: #840 MandyManners
?

845 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:06:54am

re: #837 MandyManners
True.

I was just reading this...

...The solutions being implemented also send the message that resources devoted to risk management are wasted. All of these plans reward the financial institutions that acted like lemmings by chasing the mortgage-related debt bubble rather than rewarding the financial institutions that exercised restraint and risk avoidance and independent thought and action. This unfortunate "heads Wall Street Wins, tails America loses" economic policy is wholly inconsistent with the principles of personal and corporate responsibility that are essential to a functional free market.

Firms like Merrill Lynch that took decisive steps to deal with their problems now look like suckers, as do banks that watched their leverage ratios and paid diligently into a deposit insurance program that offers protection on a far smaller scale than their investment banking rivals are getting for nothing. ...


The Government Is Contributing to the Panic
It's time to let markets do their messy work.

846 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:09:22am

Where did it go?!
YO.

Mandy
At least I helped 5,000,000 illegalities buy new homes.
ha.

/where the hell did they get that big number,
did someone count?

847 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:09:55am

re: #831 ibmkeyboard

I didn't mention losing part of my life savings of nearly $200,000 dollars.
Some company called JUNK- yard dog- and Sanford and Sons Bonds,
Sent me a letter the other day telling me I have 4,000 dollars left,
couldn't buy a used car.
Maybe Wall Mart will hire me?

/don't get me started.

YO

Where did it go?

848 formercorpsman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:10:04am

re: #842 realwest

Hey RW.

The fix is in. The Palin cycle was dropped to coincide with the ramp up of this very issue.

I really don't like the direction this is going in.

To me, it appears to be a set up, in the event McCain does pull this off, it is a free pass to really do some bad stuff.

Did you see the Farrakhan messiah video?

849 kb55  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:10:21am

Mornin' & Howdy, Elder Lizards and fellow Hatchlings.

Scions of the Blog, did you enjoy the humble and lowly libations (certainly not to the quality that Mt. Olympus would provide and deserved of such Blods*) I sent when I was allowed to join this illustrious pantheon of wisdom and plethora of scaly-skinned beings of immense egos and id?

*Blods=Blog Gods

/i bow and wait for acknowledgment of my lowly status before the great assembly, trembling in fear--awaiting the swift termination of my miserable life and the consumption of my juicy haunches by the many

850 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:11:24am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

We've a loverly sunshiny day in the valley and it looks like Indian Summer has graced us with her presence.

{realwest} Morning, honey *smoochie* I'm happy to see you - are you doing alright?

851 ArmyWife  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:11:34am

Good morning! The sun came out again! Hopefully everyone is refreshed and ready to take on the world. Looks like we are going to need to band together and figure out what to (legally) do with the ACORN gang and Obama's Band of Thieves as well as point out Palin tried to get a trooper fired who was drunk on the job (with a gun), tasered a 10 year old and threatened his father in law's life, yet the person at the center of the probe didn't have the sensibility to think this guy may, perchance, not be a suitable for continued employ as a State Trooper. Scandalous? Yes, but not in the way the Dems would like it too be.

Let me get some coffee, however, as that may have only made sense to moi!

852 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:11:40am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the media is up to its usual tricks, headlining that there's an ethical violation in the whole Palin firing of a state worker who she was fully authorized to do under state law. No sanction against her, no violation of law, but a trumped up ethical charge - so that's how the media is playing it.

When Headlines and Facts Collide.

It isn't pretty.

853 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:12:43am

Good morning, Lizards.

854 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:13:25am

Western Journalists in Iraq Stage Pullback of Their Own

BAGHDAD -- The number of foreign journalists in Baghdad is declining sharply, a media withdrawal that reflects Iraq's growing stability and the financial strains faced by some news organizations.

In a stark indication of the changing media focus here, the number of journalists traveling with American forces in Iraq has plummeted in the past year. U.S. military officials say they "embedded" journalists 219 times in September 2007. Last month, the number shrank to 39. Of the dozen U.S. newspapers and newspaper chains that maintained full-time bureaus in Baghdad in the early years of the war, only four are still permanently staffed by foreign correspondents. CBS and NBC no longer keep a correspondent in Baghdad year-round.

"It remains important and it remains interesting," said Alissa J. Rubin, the New York Times' acting bureau chief in Baghdad. "But what's in front of us now is almost a static situation. There's not a clear narrative line. The stories are more complex."

Veteran journalists say stories about Iraq, where roughly 155,000 U.S. troops are deployed and where the United States spends approximately $10 billion a month, have become tougher to get on the air and into print. News coverage that once centered largely on the U.S. military experience is shifting, like the country itself, to a story of Iraqis taking the halting, often mundane steps toward building their own government.

More than five years after the U.S.-led invasion, many of the most important stories in Iraq, such as debate over election laws and negotiations over the legal framework that will govern the presence of U.S. troops here after the United Nations mandate expires at the end of the year, are playing out incrementally and often behind closed doors.

Gen. David G. Perkins, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, said stories about violence get top billing. Less-sensational events, such as a recent voter-registration drive for the highly anticipated provincial elections expected early next year, go largely uncovered in the Western news media, he said.

"There are a lot of things going on, a lot of very complicated things going on. And to cover that, you really have to understand the details and the sophistication of it," Perkins said. "When you have a big explosion where 20 people die, it doesn't take much understanding of the intricacies of what's going on in the country to run out there with a camera and report that 20 people have been killed." ...

855 Fredlike  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:13:27am

Good Morning jorline

857 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:13:48am

re: #845 J.D.

True.

I was just reading this...

The Government Is Contributing to the Panic
It's time to let markets do their messy work.

The problem I have with letting certain financial institutions just go belly-up is that people who had no control over how their pensions were handled will be the ones who lose it all.

What's the market equivalent of tar and feathers?

858 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:13:52am

re: #822 onslow

G.M. and Chrysler Explore Merger

Bloated contracts, pensions, bad debts/toxic paper, and products that no one wants to buy.

Those are the four key problems facing both companies.

A merger wont solve the first two, the third might get reduced exposure, and wont solve bad product lines unless you're going to dump more brand names.

859 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:14:18am

re: #843 Cap'n DOC
Good morning Cap'n! Uh, isn't that sorta the way Dole ran his "campaign"?!
I mean McCain needs to come right out in front of the American people and tell them, in a calm, coherent manner, what we know about Obama, ACORN, Ayers,
Rezco et.al. and etc. and he needs to do it NOW.

And btw, how come Obama breaks his promise to take Public Financing - as a result of which he gets to buy 30 minute blocks (2 so far as I know) of primetime TV - to talk about change and hope and the MSM isn't ALL over his ass for it? What kind of hope and change is it to throw out campaign finance reform? Much less take money from THOUSANDS of Americans in places like Iran, Syria, Tunisa etc.?
If any of the investigations are allowed and funded to continue post election (assuming Obama wins) I think we'll have to go back to the 19th century to find a presidential campaign that's more corrupt than has been Obama's so far.

860 kb55  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:14:46am