Careful, everyone.

May all fascists die of road accidents and save the world from their goals.

Obama not Austrian!

Oops, sorry, I should have read the article. I saw fascist and just assumed.

Won't be long till they blame "the Jews".

I will not miss him.

"I hate Austrian Nazis."

This isn't the party that was just voted into power, is it?

this is not a death you celebrate, but if this means the death of a movement, no harm in being pleased with that outcome.

“For us this is the end of the world,”

And for the rest of us, perhaps not such a bad thing that the Alliance should suffer so.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. I hope his party finds a new leader who leads them away from fascism to a sane conservative position.

no doubt Toonces remains at large

“For us this is the end of the world,” - Dein Wort in Gottes Ohr, Herr Petzner.

Was the car pushed off the road?

His dogma got run over by his karma.

re: #11 billypaintbrush

no doubt Toonces remains at large

ROFLMAO!

Remember - the far right and the far left meet on the political circle.

Was he being chased by "paparazzi"?

“For us this is the end of the world,” the deputy leader of Haider’s Alliance for Austria’s Future, Stefan Petzner, told Austrian news agency, APA.

Yep. Sucks to be a fascist.

"I hate Illinois Nazis too."

re: #13 MandyManners

He was passing on the right.
/Get it?

re: #20 Killgore TroutOuch!
BTW. Cavuto said he knows we're not in a depression cause the rest of the msm says we are! Heh.

re: #7 Joo-LiZ

Austrians have the luxury of two fascistic parties: The FPÖ and the BZÖ (Haiders Party) both together share about 1/3 of the vote. It's not clear what coalition government there will be as far as I know....

Can't help but wonder if it really was an accident.

A man like him must have had some enemies.

re: #11 billypaintbrush

no doubt Toonces remains at large

I've a 28-second video but I fear it would offend.

Will fjordman be in mourning? Wearing a black armband perhaps?

obama crimes. this sounds so very confusing - wtf?

re: #20 Killgore Trout

He was passing on the right.
/Get it?

Oh, yeah.

re: #13 MandyManners

Was the car pushed off the road?

No, it just somehow "came off" the road.

/those Austrians

re: #23 Ringo the Gringo

Can't help but wonder if it really was an accident.

A man like him must have had some enemies.

Now there's only one leader of the fascists.

It'd be interesting if it did turn out to be foul play, especially with the political news that's been coming out of Austria.

There's a regular laundry list of possible suspects hanging around Vienna....

re: #23 Ringo the Gringo

Can't help but wonder if it really was an accident.

A man like him must have had some enemies.

An enemy like him is a badge of honor.

The tires were made by Jews! I have proof!

/no, I don't, but do I need any in this day and age anyway?

re: #28 x-wing

No, it just somehow "came off" the road.

/those Austrians

Strange how shit just happens.

Was he driving one of those SUVs with minds of their own?

First Princess Di, now this guy. I see a pattern here.

re: #16 FrogMarch

Remember - the far right and the far left meet on the political circle.

Ron Paul meet Dennis Kucinich

/

re: #14 jcm

His dogma got run over by his karma.

*groan*

re: #35 AuntAcid

First Princess Di, now this guy. I see a pattern here.

The cars are out to kill us all!
AAAAHHHHHHHHH!
*runs screaming in circles*

re: #36 x-wing

David Duke meets Jesse Jackson.

re: #37 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*groan*

mission accomplished
;-P

re: #35 AuntAcid

First Princess Di, now this guy. I see a pattern here.

And James Dean. Hmm.

re: #40 jcm

mission accomplished
;-P

LOL!

re: #41 Cicero05

And James Dean. Hmm.

Princess Grace!

re: #33 MandyManners

Who could tell if it was pushed off, unless there are witnesses? There are 50 ways to wreck a car if you want to.

I got a dollar that says alcohol was involved.

re: #43 jcm

See my #1478 back on the last thread
heh

re: #45 looking closely

I got a dollar that says alcohol was involved.

re: #45 looking closely

I got a dollar that says alcohol was involved.

What E85 vehicles are killers?
/

re: #33 MandyManners

Strange how shit just happens.

And to such great people.

I bought Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, Fugitive Days, for reasons unrelated to this project. As I discovered, he writes surprisingly well and very much like "Obama." In fact, my first thought was that the two may have shared the same ghostwriter. Unlike Dreams, however, where the high style is intermittent, Fugitive Days is infused with the authorial voice in every sentence. What is more, when Ayers speaks, even off the cuff, he uses a cadence and vocabulary consistent with his memoir. One does not hear any of Dreams in Obama's casual speech.

hmmm - Why doesn't Obama speak like his books? meanwhile -Ayres does sound like his books. things that make you go hmmmm.
"just a guy in my neighborhood." sure.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

hat-tip - NRO corner.

re: #25 Sharmuta

GoV mourns: Jörg Haider Dies in Car Crash

Pamela carries fascist water: Dewinter Battles the Leftwing Fascists, Islamists as Allies

re: #46 pre-Boomer Marine brat

See my #1478 back on the last thread
heh

Excellent!

re: #44 legalpad

Who could tell if it was pushed off, unless there are witnesses? There are 50 ways to wreck a car if you want to.

I wonder if there will be a run on tin-foil in the fascist circles.

re: #47 jcm

What E85 vehicles are killers?
/

All of them.

Don't they drive a bit too fast on the autobahn? Maybe someone just lost control at high speed

re: #48 x-wing
Maybe Stan has lost some minions and needed a replacement?!

re: #38 jcm

The cars are out to kill us all!
AAAAHHHHHHHHH!
*runs screaming in circles*

"Christine" of course

Looking at the picture of the car, he must've been going pretty fast.

re: #19 Cicero05

"I hate Illinois Nazis too."

Has anyone ever noticed that the Illinois Nazis in that movie announced their official name as the "American White People's Party"? Let's break that down:

AWP = AssWiPes

/ergo

Hope he filled out his organ donor card.

re: #45 looking closely

Maybe the swastika fell off his giant beer stein.

re: #50 Killgore Trout

Sick.

re: #57 Ward Cleaver

Looking at the picture of the car, he must've been going pretty fast.

Air bags?

Nice car.

re: #44 legalpad

Who could tell if it was pushed off, unless there are witnesses? There are 50 ways to wreck a car if you want to.

Like 50 ways to leave your lover?
It fell off the jack,Jack.
It would'nt run on soy,Roy.

re: #45 looking closely

I got a dollar that says alcohol was involved.

It seems that the wreck happened in daylight.

re: #53 looking closely

All of them.

The green movement, soon to be killing more 3rd worlders than war!

re: #48 x-wing

And to such great people.

Well, I'm sure his family will miss him. And, it happened on his mother's birthday.

re: #59 Shug

Hope he filled out his organ donor card.

Who'd want his organs?

re: #65 MandyManners

It seems that the wreck happened in daylight.

I often start drinking when there is daylight. Especially now a days!

re: #59 Shug

Hope he filled out his organ donor card.

From the looks of that crash image, his organs are probably in no shape to be donated.

re: #65 MandyManners

It seems that the wreck happened in daylight.

So?

re: #35 AuntAcid

First Princess Di, now this guy. I see a pattern here.

I don't think Sir Elton will rewrite the lyrics again in this case any time soon....

I imagine haider's surprised to find himself in hell with other nazis.

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Who'd want his organs?

The boys from Brazil?

re: #54 SpartanWoman

Don't they drive a bit too fast on the autobahn? Maybe someone just lost control at high speed

Carinthia has the autobahn?

re: #62 Nevergiveup

Air bags?

Looks like side impact, post right on the drivers door.

re: #52 MandyManners

I wonder if there will be a run on tin-foil in the fascist circles.

lol - of course there will.

re: #67 MandyManners

Well, I'm sure his family will miss him. And, it happened on his mother's birthday.

I won't shed any tears over him. I would say, "His poor mother", but who knows, maybe she's a Nazi sympathizer?

re: #72 Sharmuta
Stan probably has a special section just for these assholes.

re: #72 Sharmuta

I imagine haider's surprised to find himself in hell with other nazis.

His only surprise was finding himself there so soon...

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Who'd want his organs?

I dunno. I think it would be sweet irony if his heart or liver was placed into an immigrant

“For us this is the end of the world,” the deputy leader of Haider’s Alliance for Austria’s Future, Stefan Petzner, told Austrian news agency, APA.

Now why couldn't this have happened to Hitler?

re: #57 Ward Cleaver

Looking at the picture of the car, he must've been going pretty fast.

Maybe rolled?

re: #72 Sharmuta

I imagine haider's surprised to find himself in hell with other nazis.

And the "Magnificent Nineteen".

/spit

re: #69 Nevergiveup

I often start drinking when there is daylight. Especially now a days!

But, his star seemed to be rising.

re: #78 pingjockey

Stan probably has a special section just for these assholes.

Hell's kapos.

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Who'd want his organs?

Well, it's better than dying or living with a debilitating illness.

re: #78 pingjockey

Stan probably has a special section just for these assholes.

Of that I have no doubt.....

re: #54 SpartanWoman

Where he was driving he was only allowed to drive 70 km/h (43.4 mph), apparently he was much faster. On the Austrian autobahn you can only drive 130 km/h anyway.

re: #80 Shug

I dunno. I think it would be sweet irony if his heart or liver was placed into an immigrant

Akhbar N. Jihad.

His car looks like my brain.

/ this hangover is a bitch

re: #70 looking closely

So?

Maybe it's just me but, I don't associate drinking during the day for someone who's busy.

OT

This is the most important link on the net you need to read today:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

I could not figure out why the Iranians were shipping nuke waste to the Eastern Med. This article figured it out: the whole ship was a radiological bomb. The ship would blow a cloud of nuclear waste over Israel and the entire region.

If the reports of the cargo's nature are proven, it means that Iran has been caught red-handed attempting to commit genocide.

While Israel would be within her rights to just nuke Iran for trying, Israel will not do so, but that in no way changes the bottom line- the Iranian regime has committed an egregious act a war crime of war crimes. For this, the Iran should be blockaded until the regime surrenders power or hands over her leaders to international judgment. The answer to can the Iranian regime be trusted with nuclear weapons is no. If their leaders are wiling to murder millions of Palestinians, Saudis, Egyptians, Iraqis, Lebanese and Jordanians (who knows where their little cloud would go?), then they are unfit to sit at the table of nations.

If I were the Iranians, I would be doing everything I could to get the pirates to sink that ship.

If the story is verified it may destroy Hamas: they have been in bed with the Iranians and their friendship was repaid with an attack that might have killed everyone in Gaza.

re: #64 n in wi

Like 50 ways to leave your lover?

Just like that!

re: #84 MandyManners

But, his star seemed to be rising.

Are you intimating that I have no where to go but down?

re: #76 legalpad

lol - of course there will.

I'm putting my money into tin mining next week.

re: #91 MandyManners

Maybe it's just me but, I don't associate drinking during the day for May I assume you don't know any alcoholics?

re: #77 Ward Cleaver

I won't shed any tears over him. I would say, "His poor mother", but who knows, maybe she's a Nazi sympathizer?

He got it somewhere!

re: #87 doriangrey
Read a book called Inferno by Jerry Pournelle. A modern take on Dantes' work, pretty good.

I need to note, that though we profoundly disagreed with him, the lose of this man's life hurts his family and friends. We want our adversaries to lose and slide into obscurity, not to die.

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Who'd want his organs?

Someone who needs them. Haider's fault was in his brain; the rest of his organs might still be worth something.

re: #80 Shug

I dunno. I think it would be sweet irony if his heart or liver was placed into an immigrant

Zounds!

Seems very Jason Bourne-ish to me.

In other news, according to the New York Times, you know who has been utterly vindicated by the financial crisis, and has been obviously, completely right about everything all along? Medea Benjamin! And protestors dressed up as Ninja Turtles! Why didn't we listen to their Salomonic wisdom sooner?

re: #94 Nevergiveup

Are you intimating that I have no where to go but down?

*sigh*

Of course not.

re: #96 looking closely

Not really. How can people function while inebriated?!

re: #98 pingjockey

Read a book called Inferno by Jerry Pournelle. A modern take on Dantes' work, pretty good.

A lot of Pournelle's work is good. His "Falkenburg's Legion" universe is very well done.

Morning Lizards

re: #82 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Maybe rolled?

Maybe; it's kinda hard to tell. Maybe just went off into some trees. There's what look like mangled sections of fence in front of the car.

re: #82 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Maybe rolled?

Yep - rolled trhee times, after overtaking and hitting a concrete barrier.
According to a swiss report, linked in the GoV piece which Killian linked to further up (post #50).
I'm not linking to that site - and sorry I went there to see what they had to say.

re: #93 legalpad

Just like that!

Run into the bus,Gus.
I couldn't see,Lee.
And of course, Make a new plan,Stan.

re: #105 Dark_Falcon
I've got all of those and the Ringworld books.

re: #72 Sharmuta

I imagine haider's surprised to find himself in hell with other nazis.

Hell? No! With his baggage he's in Gary, Indiana.

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Interesting theory, but thinly-sourced.

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

VERY interesting.
Thanks.

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Anxiously anticipating a new thread on this.

re: #111 AuntAcid

Hell? No! With his baggage he's in Gary, Indiana.

I drove past Gary at Midnight. not much diff.

re: #104 MandyManners

Not really. How can people function while inebriated?!

Hey, lampshade wearing is an art!

re: #74 MandyManners

Carinthia has the autobahn?

Yeah, I thought was in Germany. Unless I'm mistaken

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

No wonder why the press is silent on this. They were looking forward to lotsa dead jews.

Is there not one honest man in the MSM?

It's over Sooners win!

re: #117 x-wing
I thought Germany and Austria were basically interchangeable?

re: #104 MandyManners

Not really. How can people function while inebriated?!

Iam typngi thiss juts fien, whatr u talken abuout?

re: #104 MandyManners

Not really. How can people function while inebriated?!

You build up a tolerance.

Its called "functional alcoholism" and it covers many (if not most) alcoholics.

I've known individuals who wake up in the morning and start drinking, and don't stop drinking until they go to bed at night. During the day, they work their jobs, drive cars, meet people, etc.

re: #102 Occasional Reader

What's Ludlum up to nowadays?

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

OT

This is the most important link on the net you need to read today:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

snip.

Holy crap...................................... No wonder this has been getting so little MSM coverage....

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

OT

This is the most important link on the net you need to read today:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

I could not figure out why the Iranians were shipping nuke waste to the Eastern Med. This article figured it out: the whole ship was a radiological bomb. The ship would blow a cloud of nuclear waste over Israel and the entire region.

If the reports of the cargo's nature are proven, it means that Iran has been caught red-handed attempting to commit genocide.

While Israel would be within her rights to just nuke Iran for trying, Israel will not do so, but that in no way changes the bottom line- the Iranian regime has committed an egregious act a war crime of war crimes. For this, the Iran should be blockaded until the regime surrenders power or hands over her leaders to international judgment. The answer to can the Iranian regime be trusted with nuclear weapons is no. If their leaders are wiling to murder millions of Palestinians, Saudis, Egyptians, Iraqis, Lebanese and Jordanians (who knows where their little cloud would go?), then they are unfit to sit at the table of nations.

If I were the Iranians, I would be doing everything I could to get the pirates to sink that ship.

If the story is verified it may destroy Hamas: they have been in bed with the Iranians and their friendship was repaid with an attack that might have killed everyone in Gaza.

Updinged, and quoted in full - this is horrifying beyond belief!

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

Someone who needs them. Haider's fault was in his brain; the rest of his organs might still be worth something.

You're right.re: #88 der_ich

Where he was driving he was only allowed to drive 70 km/h (43.4 mph), apparently he was much faster. On the Austrian autobahn you can only drive 130 km/h anyway.

He might have been distracted by his cell phone, or swerved to avoid an animal, who knows? But I'd guess he was driving faster than 70 km/h. Maybe 90 km/h.

re: #116 Tigger2005

Hey, lampshade wearing is an art!

Does it pay well?

Haider probably had "Ride of the Valkyries" or "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" blasting on his CD player, and just got carried away.

re: #122 looking closely

You build up a tolerance.

Its called "functional alcoholism" and it covers many (if not most) alcoholics.

I've known individuals who wake up in the morning and start drinking, and don't stop drinking until they go to bed at night. During the day, they work their jobs, drive cars, meet people, etc.

True but when I do surgery it can be a bitch!

re: #108 yma o hyd

Yep - rolled trhee times, after overtaking and hitting a concrete barrier.
According to a swiss report, linked in the GoV piece which Killian linked to further up (post #50).
I'm not linking to that site - and sorry I went there to see what they had to say.

Thanks!

/and you are forgiven (-:

I thought our politicians were brain dead......

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I know why it's not being covered.
That ship has an Obama-Biden bumper sticker on the stern

re: #118 SpartanWoman

No wonder why the press is silent on this. They were looking forward to lotsa dead jews.

Is there not one honest man in the MSM?

No there is not...

re: #124 doriangrey
You know there is a special ops boat with a SEAL team aboard waiting for the go signal to take that ship.

re: #118 SpartanWoman

No wonder why the press is silent on this. They were looking forward to lotsa dead jews.

Is there not one honest man in the MSM?

The press hasn't reported that story because it's just speculation by some blogger. He has nothing to back up his theory and links to no outside sources. The Iranian ship is a curious story but I wouldn't believe that bloggers take on it.

With all the depressing news - if you want a laugh, turn on TCM. A Doris Day movie, "The Ballad of Josie", set in the old west. Co star, love interest, is Peter Graves. The movie "Airplane" has made any of the Graves movies impossible to watch without peeing in your shorts ! He just brought Doris out to his spread - a sheep herd is approaching them as Graves explains living alone out there after the little woman left him - the lines just pop up one after the other..."Josie, you ever notice how a sheep can look like a.....". Man, this is too much !

re: #117 x-wing

Yeah, I thought was in Germany. Unless I'm mistaken

Carinthia is a part of Austria, in the south I think.

re: #134 pingjockey

You know there is a special ops boat with a SEAL team aboard waiting for the go signal to take that ship.

I respect and admire our special ops/SEAL team members tremendously.

re: #98 pingjockey

Read a book called Inferno by Jerry Pournelle. A modern take on Dantes' work, pretty good.

I have read it, great book... Yea, and all the Ringworld stuff too...

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

OT

This is the most important link on the net you need to read today:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

I could not figure out why the Iranians were shipping nuke waste to the Eastern Med. This article figured it out: the whole ship was a radiological bomb. The ship would blow a cloud of nuclear waste over Israel and the entire region.

If the reports of the cargo's nature are proven, it means that Iran has been caught red-handed attempting to commit genocide.

While Israel would be within her rights to just nuke Iran for trying, Israel will not do so, but that in no way changes the bottom line- the Iranian regime has committed an egregious act a war crime of war crimes. For this, the Iran should be blockaded until the regime surrenders power or hands over her leaders to international judgment. The answer to can the Iranian regime be trusted with nuclear weapons is no. If their leaders are wiling to murder millions of Palestinians, Saudis, Egyptians, Iraqis, Lebanese and Jordanians (who knows where their little cloud would go?), then they are unfit to sit at the table of nations.

If I were the Iranians, I would be doing everything I could to get the pirates to sink that ship.

If the story is verified it may destroy Hamas: they have been in bed with the Iranians and their friendship was repaid with an attack that might have killed everyone in Gaza.

Maybe. Where was the ship when it was seized? The only way we'll find out the truth about the ship is if a U.S. Navy team boards it, after checking radiation levels, of course.

re: #121 Occasional Reader

Iam typngi thiss juts fien, whatr u talken abuout?

*snigger*

re: #8 greggriffith

this is not a death you celebrate, but if this means the death of a movement, no harm in being pleased with that outcome.

In 4/3/2/....conspiracy theories.

The accident is unfortunate because it gives zombie life to a movement that should die of rejection at the polls and ridicule in the marketplace of ideas.

The mainstream political parties open their nations to opportunistic infection by fascists, though, when they refuse to consider limiting immigration that, unchecked, has the potential to destabilize society. All sorts of aggressive and potentially lethal meme infections are possible when the political immune system shuts down.

That's how Haider fashioned his otherwise impossible rise into the limelight.

re: #122 looking closely

You build up a tolerance.

Its called "functional alcoholism" and it covers many (if not most) alcoholics.

I've known individuals who wake up in the morning and start drinking, and don't stop drinking until they go to bed at night. During the day, they work their jobs, drive cars, meet people, etc.

That's terrifying! I hope they're not building cars or airplanes.

re: #123 MandyManners

What's Ludlum up to nowadays?

Not much. He died in 2001.

re: #134 pingjockey

You know there is a special ops boat with a SEAL team aboard waiting for the go signal to take that ship.

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any such team..... ;)

re: #137 MandyManners

Carinthia is a part of Austria, in the south I think.

Germany, Austria what's the difference since the Anschluss?

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Seems very Jason Bourne-ish to me.

In other news, according to the New York Times, you know who has been utterly vindicated by the financial crisis, and has been obviously, completely right about everything all along? Medea Benjamin! And protestors dressed up as Ninja Turtles! Why didn't we listen to their Salomonic wisdom sooner?

Well - she can't have had her bank statement yet, otherwise she'd not be so happy about this ...
Hopefully she, her crones (no typo!) and all other trust fund babies will now ahve to contemplate joining the unwashed, toiling masses and do somehting constructive to earn their daily Krust (no typo!) ...

re: #95 MandyManners

I'm putting my money into tin mining next week.

There are 50 ways to make money off of conspiracies.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

Not much. He died in 2001.

Well, that answers my question.

re: #146 Nevergiveup

Germany, Austria what's the difference since the Anschluss?

Schikelgruber got his start there.

re: #109 n in wi

No need to discuss much -

I think someone needs to juxtapose the "singing Obama kids" with that Nazi Youth kid singing at the outdoor cafe from "Cabaret." That is one of the most effective, chilling movie scenes ever.

Now, Filip Dewinter has a place to put his White Power cross.

re: #150 MandyManners

Schikelgruber got his start there.

You think the people acorn are regeristing have any idea who Schikelgruber is and what the Anschluss is? Or what state germany is in?

re: #147 yma o hyd

Well - she can't have had her bank statement yet, otherwise she'd not be so happy about this ...
Hopefully she, her crones (no typo!) and all other trust fund babies will now ahve to contemplate joining the unwashed, toiling masses and do somehting constructive to earn their daily Krust (no typo!) ...

But don't you love the Times' reporters' assumption that these idiots are somehow "proven right" by the past weeks' events? Sure, I mean, the countries they so admire - Cuba, North Korea, etc. - they have such robust economies! And what are the specific, brilliant ideas these clowns have?

A steady refrain from the protesters has been that more economic nationalism is needed

Smoot-Hawley, Part Deux! Yeah, that's the ticket! That'll really fix what ails us!

The Times should be ashamed of themselves. Wait... I can't repeat that sentence without laughing, never mind.

re: #137 MandyManners

Carinthia is a part of Austria, in the south I think.

OOps. should have read. "I thought the autobahn was in Germany."

re: #154 Nevergiveup

You think the people acorn are regeristing have any idea who Schikelgruber is and what the Anschluss is? Or what state germany is in?

No, but they know what "the word" is.

Thunderbird.

re: #143 MandyManners

That's terrifying! I hope they're not building cars or airplanes.

Or driving/flying them.

Or operating on people.

You bet there are surgeons who are functional alcoholics, in fact, surgery is such a stressful job that alcoholism and substance abuse rates are higher than the general population (estimated at 10% for the general population, depending on who you ask, and up to 15% for physicians in general).

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

OT

This is the most important link on the net you need to read today:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

I could not figure out why the Iranians were shipping nuke waste to the Eastern Med. This article figured it out: the whole ship was a radiological bomb. The ship would blow a cloud of nuclear waste over Israel and the entire region.

If the reports of the cargo's nature are proven, it means that Iran has been caught red-handed attempting to commit genocide.

While Israel would be within her rights to just nuke Iran for trying, Israel will not do so, but that in no way changes the bottom line- the Iranian regime has committed an egregious act a war crime of war crimes. For this, the Iran should be blockaded until the regime surrenders power or hands over her leaders to international judgment. The answer to can the Iranian regime be trusted with nuclear weapons is no. If their leaders are wiling to murder millions of Palestinians, Saudis, Egyptians, Iraqis, Lebanese and Jordanians (who knows where their little cloud would go?), then they are unfit to sit at the table of nations.

If I were the Iranians, I would be doing everything I could to get the pirates to sink that ship.

If the story is verified it may destroy Hamas: they have been in bed with the Iranians and their friendship was repaid with an attack that might have killed everyone in Gaza.

This should be publicized as widely as possible. If Iran really tried this, they've just demonstrated they can hit us. It not only has national security import, it also give john McCain a club with which he must beat Obama.

re: #143 MandyManners

That's terrifying! I hope they're not building cars or airplanes.

A relative of OBL, Osama BinDrinkin, was found working at a Boeing Aircraft facility. He was "let go", of course.

re: #154 Nevergiveup

You think the people acorn are regeristing have any idea who Schikelgruber is and what the Anschluss is? Or what state germany is in?

Germany... wait, I know this one. Didn't they bomb Pearl Harbor at the beginning of the Vietnam War?

re: #131 jcm

I thought our politicians were brain dead......

This bozo can throw bombs at his opponents but he knows he has no answers. He just wants his people in power.

re: #35 AuntAcid

First Princess Di, now this guy. I see a pattern here.

Oooops - first Princess Grace.

re: #163 taxfreekiller
Wheels within wheels.

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

OT

This is the most important link on the net you need to read today:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

I could not figure out why the Iranians were shipping nuke waste to the Eastern Med. This article figured it out: the whole ship was a radiological bomb. The ship would blow a cloud of nuclear waste over Israel and the entire region.

If the reports of the cargo's nature are proven, it means that Iran has been caught red-handed attempting to commit genocide.

While Israel would be within her rights to just nuke Iran for trying, Israel will not do so, but that in no way changes the bottom line- the Iranian regime has committed an egregious act a war crime of war crimes. For this, the Iran should be blockaded until the regime surrenders power or hands over her leaders to international judgment. The answer to can the Iranian regime be trusted with nuclear weapons is no. If their leaders are wiling to murder millions of Palestinians, Saudis, Egyptians, Iraqis, Lebanese and Jordanians (who knows where their little cloud would go?), then they are unfit to sit at the table of nations.

If I were the Iranians, I would be doing everything I could to get the pirates to sink that ship.

If the story is verified it may destroy Hamas: they have been in bed with the Iranians and their friendship was repaid with an attack that might have killed everyone in Gaza.

Interesting, but a little on the far-fetched side. The fact that it comes from Russian sources automatically makes it suspect, too.

I've been watching for more news on that ship, but this one gets the 48-hour rule...

re: #131 jcm

I thought our politicians were brain dead......

Oh. My. God.

I'm reminded of a very old Saturday Night Live skit, in which guest host Steve Martin is portraying a glib, smart, articulate cave man, while the rest of the crew are playing more stereotypical dumb, inarticulate cavemen. At one point, Steve tries to show them how they can hunt mammoth more effectively. "See, let's say these little rocks are us (placing rocks on the ground), and this big rock is the mammoth. Right now, we're all running at the mammoth from the same direction, and it just runs away. But if we start by surrounding it (rearranges rocks), the mammoth has no place to run. See!"

Dumb caveman Bill Murray scowls at the diagram. "But... we are not rocks."

Stephan Dion, Partie Neanderthal.

re: #6 cicero05

"I hate Austrian Nazis."

"I hate Illinois Nazis"

re: #167 Occasional Reader

lol - I saw that yesterday. Is that not the saddest excuse for a politician you've ever seen? You almost want to hold his hand and tell it everything will be OK after the meds kick in.

Reminds me of the old joke:
"The difference between Germans and Austrians? Well, the Germans were Nazis".

re: #169 godfrey

lol - I saw that yesterday. Is that not the saddest excuse for a politician you've ever seen? You almost want to hold his hand and tell it everything will be OK after the meds kick in.

I cannot WAIT to send this link to a liberal Canadian colleague on Tuesday morning, with the caption "you may never, ever make fun of George Bush again".

Judge: Mr. Cirroc, are you ready to give your summation?

Cirroc: [ stepping out] It's just "Cirroc", your Honor.. and, yes, I'm ready. [ approaches the jury box ] Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and later got thawed out by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW.. and run off into the hills, or wherever.. Sometimes when I get a message on my fax machine, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts. But there is one thing I do know - when a man like my client slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages, and two million in punitive damages. Thank you.

Judge: The jury will now retire to deliberate.

Jury Foreman: [ standing ] Your Honor.. we don't need to retire. Cirroc's words are just as true now as they were in his time. We give him the full amount.

[ the jury applauds Cirroc ]

re: #167 Occasional Reader

Oh. My. God.

I'm reminded of a very old Saturday Night Live skit, in which guest host Steve Martin is portraying a glib, smart, articulate cave man, while the rest of the crew are playing more stereotypical dumb, inarticulate cavemen. At one point, Steve tries to show them how they can hunt mammoth more effectively. "See, let's say these little rocks are us (placing rocks on the ground), and this big rock is the mammoth. Right now, we're all running at the mammoth from the same direction, and it just runs away. But if we start by surrounding it (rearranges rocks), the mammoth has no place to run. See!"

Dumb caveman Bill Murray scowls at the diagram. "But... we are not rocks."

Stephan Dion, Partie Neanderthal.

re: #166 Charles

The US Navy has to board that vessel. Доверяй, но проверя& #1081;.

re: #165 pingjockey

Wheels within wheels.

Sigh............. tfk is usually cryptically spot on. Sadly I fear tfk my be trapped in the wilderness of mirrors.

One of Haider's good friends, Seif al-Islam, the son of Libyan madman Moamar Kadhafi.

'Nuf said.

Follow up on my comment above-

There have been multiple reports on the ship causing pirates to get sick.

Somali pirate have been in the news of late; they have been terrorizing the East African shipping lanes for the last few years, lately they have reached the point where they are completely out of hand. Traffic going between the MEd and Indian Oceans is being attacked.

We nee to know more:

what is on the ship?
where is the crew?
Where are its officers?

But most importantly, the one burning question that should cause us all to worry: ARE THERE ANY MORE OF THESE SHIPS OUT THERE?

Bomb ships could attack Japan, Europe, the US east or west coasts. Florida would be quite vulnerable.

The people whose business it is to worry about such things are doing just that. I would not be surprised to see every ship approaching the US side of the Atlantic being checked. While we were speculating about the US attacking Iran, people forgot the Iranians may have had a plan to attack us.

Note further, the sudden and precipitous drop in oil prices does, in some ways, force Iran's hand. With their revenue down, their ability to control their people is diminished- oil money is the fuel for the regime.

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

It also looks like China has, in effect, declared war on the West.

/ details, details

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

From your link,

The MV Iran Deyanat departed Nanjing, China, July 28, and, according to its manifest, planned to sail to Rotterdam, where it would offload 42,500 tons of iron ore and "industrial products" purchased by an unidentified “ German client”. The ship has a crew of 29 men, including a Pakistani captain, an Iranian engineer, 13 other Iranians, 3 Indians, 2 Filipinos, and 10 Eastern Europeans, stated to be Albanians.

What a tangled web of deceit.

re: #166 Charles

No question on the 48 hour rule Charles. Even longer. We may never know for sure. If that ship is radioactive, the story will come out.

What cannot be argued are the implications if the story is true: Iran was attempting a radiological Pearl Harbor, probably on Israel but the ship could have been used against any Western coastal city.

If it was a bomb ship, the Ayatollahs had better pray the US or Israelis are not able to verify the cargo.

If there was a significant amount of radioactive material on the ship, where did it come from?

Did the Iranians buy some waste from the Chinese or North Koreans and then mix it with some kind of dirt or powder that is easy to disperse to the air in an explosion?

One thing is certain, the US ought to seize the ship to preserve the evidence. Because it was first taken by pirates, under the laws of the seas, we are permitted to board the vessel and take it.

At the very least, if the ship is contaminated, it poses a unique environmental hazard. The only safe way to dispose of the ship is take it to the deepest waters and sink it.

This is the stuff of nightmares.

rest in pieces

re: #178 abolitionist

What a tangled web of deceit.

According to an emigre group, NCRI, which is opposed to the Tehran regime, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (aka Pasdaran) controls 30 percent of Iran's non-petroleum exports and more than half of Iran's imports. (WashTimes, 10-28-07)

The Iran Devant is very likely under the control of the Pasdaran, and most likely under the control of the Pasdaran's Qods Force.

The Qods Force reports directly to Khamenei.

re: #25 Sharmuta

Wearing a black armband perhaps?

Dammit, bitch, as soon as I saw the thread headline I was all like, Oooh, I hope no one beats me to the "black armband" joke! Ah, well, that's what I get for sleeping till noon on a Saturday...

/sulk

Those Austrian fascists just can't get a break.

re: #182 Throbert McGee

Hell- it practically wrote itself.

“For us this is the end of the world,”

Good. Go away and never come back.

re: #173 Macker

Доверяй, но проверя& #1081;.

Doveryái, no proveryái -- "Trust, but verify." (It rhymes in Russian!)

Incidentally, just FYI, you can prevent the LGF hamsters from splitting up long strings of Cyrillic and other non-Latin characters by sticking in an empty italics or bold tag with nothing inside it -- e.g.:

довер < i > < /i > яй

(Only type it without any spaces -- sheesh, fuckin' hamsters.)

Which displays as:

доверяй

(Generally speaking, I believe, the hamsters don't like more than five non-Latin characters in a continuous row -- but putting an empty tag into the middle of longer words, as demonstrated, confuses them.)

Haider was no more a nazi than George W Bush. Any politician who doesn't toe the line towards multiculturalist dhimmitude gets labelled a nazi and as a result the native population is ignored and disenfranchised. You wonder why we have so many Isalamist nutters here in the UK? It's beacause anyone who speaks up against the mass immigration policies of the last 20 years is shouted down as 'extreme right wing' or 'nazi'.
Some of the comments on here reflect just how deeply the groupthink is now ingrained, even amongst 'conservatives'. Those of you in the US blather on about freedom and democracy but would deny the Austrians choice of leadership. Go figure. Haider was no Ahmedinajad, that's for sure.

test

This accident is actually bad news. As I said last night:

Hmmm...

There are two major rightwing parties in Austria. They got about 30% of the vote combined, but the leaders of the two parties hated each other... and that was going to keep them from forming a formidable alliance.

Now that impediment is gone...

Hmmm...

This will eventually strengthen the far right in Austria.

re: #186 Throbert McGee

Доверяй, но проверя& #1081;.

Doveryái, no proveryái -- "Trust, but verify." (It rhymes in Russian!)

And by the way, the root common to these similar-looking Russian words is вера (véra) -- meaning "faith." I have no idea if it's ultimately an Indo-European cognate with the Latin vera, a feminine adjective form meaning "true," or if the resemblance is coincidental.

As with the English "faith," the Russian vera can also be a girl's name when capitalized. Thus, the 1988 Soviet movie Little Vera -- noteworthy for what was, in CCCP terms, shockingly candid sex, though it's a snooze by our standards -- has a punning title, which can be interpreted as either ''the little girl named Faith'' or "a paucity of faith." (This double meaning is commented on by a character in the movie, lest any audience member miss it.)

re: #77 Ward Cleaver

I won't shed any tears over him. I would say, "His poor mother", but who knows, maybe she's a Nazi sympathizer?

Not a sympathizer! She and her husband always have been and she is down to the present day a staunch and proud Nazi.

Haider's party BZOE and Strache's party FPOE had close ties to Saddam Hussein and both have also close ties to Iran and Libya.

Look what kind of t-shirts Strache wore during the election campaign

BZOE and FPOE are promoting more socialism not less but only for Austrians. Haider as governor of Carinthia implemented so much socialism that Carinthia is nearly bankrupt.

btw: Haider had a similar accident in 1993 with a white BMW which he survived nearly uninjured. He was a very, very fast driver and loved sportcars

He was able to afford such cars b'cause of the from a Jewish family stolen Baerental

re: #191 zuckerlilly

Not a sympathizer! She and her husband always have been and she is down to the present day a staunch and proud Nazi.

What a shame of a family!

Thunderbirds are GO!

As long as I'm going OT about the russkii yazyk, a few months ago I came across this rather crude humor page aimed at Russian Jews (and/or Russian "Jews" of questionable halachic status) who've resettled in Israel.

At lot of the humor is based on the fact that many Hebrew words coincidentally sound like cussing to Russian ears, and the best joke concerns an emigre named Fëdor Ivanov who has to be admitted to the hospital because of vodka-related complications. (Imagine that!) Note, by the way, that Fëdor Ivanov is a perfectly commonplace Russian name and is equivalent to "Theodore Johnson."

Of course the Israeli nurse writes his name on the chart using Hebrew letters. Alas, after "Fëdor Ivanov" is hebraicized according to standard Cyrillic-to-Hebrew transliteration rules, the Israeli doctor making his rounds quite naturally pronounces the patient's name as "Pidor Yebanov" -- which, to a Russian, sounds just like Faggot McFuck.

Chaos ensues!

_{(Yeah, I know this'll be pretty obscure to most people, but I just love saying "Faggot McFuck.")}

re: #92 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I've been saying all along it was radiation poisoning, and probably a dirty bomb. I had expected an attack elsewhere, in a Western port, but this makes a lot of sense.
If confirmed, it would justify an immediate attack on Iran, including possibly a nuclear attack.
Maybe the Russians know this, and it could explain why they are now saying they will not sell advanced anti-aircraft missiles to Iran.

But the fact this isn't in the MSM says a lot; it should be the most important story.
And if it had gone off, there would be pictures of dying paliterrorists, and articles bemoaning how the Muslims could no longer pray at the mosques on the Temple Mount, and very little about dying Jews.

Interesting how G-d takes care of His people, and gets to punish some pirates at the same time.

Sorry, that should have been from 157

No, but they know what "the word" is.

Thunderbird.

THunderbirds are GO!

"Mr. Haider’s death has led to an outpouring of emotion hardly ever seen in Austria, compared by some observers to the swell of mourning in Britain after Princess Diana’s death in 1997. Mr. Petzner, 27, openly wept on Austrian television recalling how he had said goodbye on Friday night to his boss. Gerhard Dörfler, Mr. Haider’s deputy and now the acting governor of Carinthia, said, “The sun has fallen from the sky.”
Condolences rushed in from across the political spectrum. President Heinz Fischer, a Social Democrat, called Mr. Haider a “politician of great talent,” and said he was “deeply affected” by the news."

He was beloved by the people in his country, even his enemies, but he was reviled as a Nazi. Doesn't add up. Perhaps the pejorative labels were attempts to discredit him and not really representative of who he was. Reminds me of all we hear about Palin, if we read the liberal media we'd think she was quite loathsome as well.

I can just see the goose-stepping at the funeral.

Hey Blueboy, Yeh you, up at #187, you want to send Haider's Mama a birthday card? Maybe enclose a copy of the boy;s obit? The one where her and her old man's Nazi past is detailed? You can sign it with your name, "Blueboy, the dull tool".

re: #192 LittleGreenFavre

His father joined Hitler Youth in 1929 and the Nazi SA storm troops a year later. The senior Haider reportedly traveled to Munich with Adolf Eichmann and Alois Brunner in 1933 as a member of the Austrian legion. Haider's mother belonged to the Nazi Paty's League of German Girls.

Parents

The plot line will be a Ludlum novel.

The Libyan Connection

On June 28, 2000, the Times of London reported that Libyan leader Muammar Ghaddafi had ordered the deposit of $25 million into a bank in Carinthia, the Austrian province governed by Jorg Haider, de facto leader of the far-right Freedom Party. (The Freedom Party is an immigrant-bashing organization that is home to many neo-Nazis and former Nazis and has downplayed German war atrocities.) Col. Ghaddafi's cash gift - which Haider described as "Christmas for Austria" - was meant to ease the strain of sanctions imposed on Austria by the European Union after the Freedom Party joined Austria's national governing coalition.

This was the second rabbit Haider pulled from his hat as a result of two private forays to Tripoli, where he met Ghaddafi. After his first Libyan excursion, Haider announced he was tackling Austria's high gas prices by arranging for Libyan gasoline to be sold in Carinthia at a discount. News photos showed Haider, the Porsche-driving populist, beaming as he pumped gas for motorists.

Over the years, Ghaddafi has been wooed by several neofascist leaders, including Italian fugitive Stefano delle Chiaie, who was accused of masterminding a series of bomb attacks in Rome and Milan. Described in a 1982 cia report as "the most prominent rightist terrorist " still at large," delle Chiaie wrote a letter to Ghadaffi, inviting him to join in a common struggle against "atheistic Soviet Marxism and American capitalist materialism," both of which were supposedly controlled by "international Zionism." Delle Chiaie added: "Libya can, if it wants, be the active focus, the center of national socialist renovation [that will] break the chains which enslave people and nations."

re: #166 Charles

Interesting, but a little on the far-fetched side. The fact that it comes from Russian sources automatically makes it suspect, too.

I've been watching for more news on that ship, but this one gets the 48-hour rule...

Yes, I agree that the story is highly suspect, so maybe we're not at war with China.

Much (all)? of the Oct 6 story here (see #92)

On August 21st, 2008, the MV Iran Deyant, 44,458 dead weight bulk carrier was heading towards the Suez Canal. As it was passing the Horn of Africa, about 80 miles southeast of al-Makalla in Yemen, the ship was surrounded by speedboats filled with members of a gang of Somalian pirates who grab suitable commercial ships and hold them and their cargos and crews for ransom. The captain was defenseless against the 40 pirates armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades blocking his passage. He had little choice other than to turn his ship over to them. What the pirates were not banking on, however, was that this was no ordinary ship.
[snip]

had appeared Oct 3 here:
The Iranian Mystery Ship: Death from the Sea
by Brian Harring – TBR News October 3, 2008

On August 21st, 2008, the MV Iran Deyant, 44,458 dead weight bulk carrier was heading towards the Suez Canal. As it was passing the Horn of Africa, about 80 miles southeast of al-Makalla in Yemen, the ship was surrounded by speedboats filled with members of a gang of Somalia pirates who grab suitable commercial ships and hold them,, and their cargos More.. and crews for ransom. The captain was defenseless against the 40 pirates armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades blocking his passage. He had little choice other than to turn his ship over to them. What the pirates were not banking on, however, was that this was no ordinary ship.
[snip]

A little research on Brian Harring – TBR News turns up
http://www.tbrnews.org/
http://www.tbrnews.org/links.htm

Links
[Link: www.bender-publishing.com...]

www.twot.com.au/

The stuff that bender-publishing seems to be pushing is rather telling --celebrating the Third Reich. Oh, there's a downloadable summer08 flier, PDF file

The twot.com.au site is "unavailable" but here's an archive.org link:
[Link: web.archive.org...]

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Seems very Jason Bourne-ish to me.

Someone hiding in the wald mit eine Steyr AUG?

Fascist leader dies in car-crash.
Kharma wanted for questioning.

re: #187 blueboy

blah-de-blah-blah, blah-blah...

Just for larfs, try doing a Google Image search for "blueboy." Make sure you have "safe search" turned off, and that there are no children or work-supervisors around...

(Hint: Blueboy is a long-established, erm, "photojournal," aimed at the same target demographic as Mandate and Playguy.)

If some people are minimizing the nazis and the ever-growing European (and probably American) neo-nazis, then what has been learned in my lifetime? I was born in 1938, and obviously did not become aware of the evil until I was about 7 years old, safe and sound in a Boston suburb, while my grandparents' zt'l families HY"D were burning in the ovens, or starving to death.

Charles has posted so many threads on the subject, sounding an alert to what is happening, as we sit, a very few totally unaware, un-caring, in a state of denial, or just thinking that it will just go away.

If this is how it is, while survivors are still here to bear witness, then what will it be like by the year 2050? I shudder to think.

Those who forget history.....

Wake up, damn it....99.9% of the lizards get it, and blueboy? FOAD, but the few who don't, like him? Go post somewhere else. If the loss of over 6 million Jew, and so many righteous Christians, does not make an impression, then what would it take? I shudder to think.

I am going off this thread...too intense to cope with right now.

Charles, any chance of re-posting some of the neo-nazi threads?

Re dirty bomb freighter story, it resembles this fictional story:

Where We Live
By Daniel J. Pinney

18 February 2008
Excerpts:

My parents grew up in Beirut. My father, educated at Oxford, returned home to teach at the American University there, receiving a tenured position as a professor of world history in 2021. My mother was a schoolteacher, and his childhood sweetheart from the old neighborhood. She died, giving birth to me, in 2030. I was named after the street in Cairo where I was conceived, during their honeymoon.
[snip]

On the last day of July of that year, a tramp freighter sailing under Liberian flag anchored in the harbor at Netanya and, on an afternoon when a cool, steady wind was blowing in off the sea, detonated a cargo of high explosive heavily laced with plutonium dust, a textbook "dirty bomb." Three days later, having determined from a careful review of satellite telemetry that the vessel's previous port of call had been the southern Lebanese city of Tyre, Israel's Knesset issued a statement condemning the Lebanese state and Hizb Allah for perpetrating this monstrous act, or at least allowing it to happen. Beirut and the Party of God each issued denials, and expressions of regret at the atrocity, but to no avail. Israel retaliated by launching two medium-range missiles with small nuclear payloads, confirming at last their nuclear arsenal to the world. The first missile obliterated Tyre; the second blew a radioactive crater half a kilometer wide in the southern precincts of Beirut that had long been reputed to be Hizb Allah's stronghold in the capital. With the state's blessing, Hizb Allah retaliated, firing two Iranian-made ship-to-shore missiles carrying mustard gas from small boats that hid beneath the radioactive cover afforded by the fallout hanging over Tyre. Those missiles decimated the populations of Haifa and Tiberias, or those who had not yet had the sense, or the means, to flee. In a matter of days, southern Lebanon and northern Israel descended into a chaos from which neither would ever emerge.

re: #187 blueboy

Piss off, a**hole..

Dangerous clown, won't be missed.

Wow!

re: #207 NY Nana

+1 (if the + thing was working)

Now he's a good nazi.

Following up on #206:

I have no idea how "blue" came to be a rather obscure slang code for "male homosexual," and after Googling, I still don't know. There's a slightly famous (in gay circles) short story called "Am I Blue?" in which all the world's homos magically turn Smurf-colored for a day, but that was from the mid-'90s, while the gay-pr0n mag Blueboy goes back to 1975.

In Russian, golubói (denoting "light-to-medium shades of blue") is mainstream, universally-understand slang for male homosexuals, but I have no idea whether it has a historical link with the English codeword, or if the two usages emerged independently.

This English-language page about the Russian slang term says that the origins/rationale for goluboi aren't proven, either -- though possibly it derives from homosexuality being perceived as an affliction that mainly strikes milquetoast aristocrats (in Russian, as in English, members of the upper-crust were traditionally said to be "blue-blooded").

I wish Charles wouldn't use the term fascist for every right wing extremist/nut. It just plays into the hands of the left who have sold the idea that fascism is a right wing phenomenon when it has historically been imposed by left wing politicians such as Mussolini, Hitler, and Woodrow Wilson.

Excuse me Mr. Ahmadinejad, your car is ready - and it has a full tank of gas.

re: #187 blueboy

Haider was no more a nazi than George W Bush. Any politician who doesn't toe the line towards multiculturalist dhimmitude gets labelled a nazi and as a result the native population is ignored and disenfranchised. You wonder why we have so many Isalamist nutters here in the UK? It's beacause anyone who speaks up against the mass immigration policies of the last 20 years is shouted down as 'extreme right wing' or 'nazi'.

It is true that the left have this Pavlovian impulse to brand anyone they politically hate, a "Nazi". Arguments are branded "racist" and countries are branded "apartheid". To a group of people juiced to the gils on their own cultural sensitivity, calling someone a racist is the ultimate slur. Doing so also stiffles any debate.

You are right that we should watch out for "truths" adopted from left wing attack dogs, and hell - enough of them would call Charles a Nazi and you and I a Nazi for reading his blog.

But there's a difference between rejecting the casual "Nazi" slur for anyone right of Livingstone, and calling the BNP, Vlaams & Haider "Neo-Nazis". I mean just because the left throws the terms around, that doesn't mean they are always wrong.

Haider was a Neo-Nazi - sure a new flavour, but at heart the same extremism. The same threat. We need the moderates to speak out against Islamofascism. The moderates need to steal the agenda from the NeoNazis.

I was wondering the skinheads across the street were looking so crestfallen.

re: #22 der_ich

Austrians have the luxury of two fascistic parties: The FPÖ and the BZÖ (Haiders Party) both together share about 1/3 of the vote. It's not clear what coalition government there will be as far as I know....

The leaders of the two nationalist parties hated each other, so there was little chance of there being an alliance--until today.

I wouldn't call him a "fascist"
More a right wing maverick

Feeling like a deer reading of a hunter falling from his rised hide and breaking his neck.

re: #26 Teacake!

obama crimes. this sounds so very confusing - wtf?

Too many questions about this POTUS candidate. Tooooo many questions.

re: #69 Nevergiveup

I often start drinking when there is daylight. Especially now a days!

There are only two times that I drink, when I'm with someone or when I'm alone. (Dean Martin)

The Jooos will be blamed in 3,2,1....

To bad he wasn't in a bus with his fellow travellers.

I was looking for information as to what kind of car it was, since it doesn't have the same styling hallmarks of a Mercedes, a BMW, or an Audi but the front logo seems to have been blasted off.

I thought it might have actually been a Lexus, but, searching blogs, I found out that it's a Volkswagen Phaeton, which, I suppose, is appropriate considering whom the founder of Volkswagen was, and came across this doozy which indeed is blaming the J00Z.

Heider was father of two girls and was happily married with his wife, and he was coming from his mother’s birthday parties riding to home at speed of maximum 30 mph. And we are supposed to believe that he died because he lost control of his car that is most modern car Germany has ever built? Heider had never had any tickets for speeding or any other crimes. Mossad had spied him, paid one of his aides to deliver information about Heider’s activities to Israel. Oddly this spy was never punished, because Jewish judge decided that there was no crime.

I have a feeling he got a BIG surprise today.

"Haider was no more a nazi than George W Bush. Any politician who doesn't toe the line towards multiculturalist dhimmitude gets labelled a nazi and as a result the native population is ignored and disenfranchised. You wonder why we have so many Isalamist nutters here in the UK? It's beacause anyone who speaks up against the mass immigration policies of the last 20 years is shouted down as 'extreme right wing' or 'nazi'.
Some of the comments on here reflect just how deeply the groupthink is now ingrained, even amongst 'conservatives'. Those of you in the US blather on about freedom and democracy but would deny the Austrians choice of leadership. Go figure. Haider was no Ahmedinajad, that's for sure."

I couldn't agree more.

re: #187 blueboy

right on

Rest in pieces, Joerg Haider.

May all your Nazi friends have traffic accidents too.

/Rant On

Yes, I dinged Charles down. Why? Because I linked to this story on the early morning DT. No, I didn't post a spin off link, but come on, lets give credit for a tip to a news link were credit is due.

Now implementing the "IRONFIST RULE"

// Rant Off

An austrian neo nazi dies BOO HOO.

I HOPE IT WAS A SLOW DEATH.

re: #199 gymnast

Hey Blueboy, Yeh you, up at #187, you want to send Haider's Mama a birthday card? Maybe enclose a copy of the boy;s obit? The one where her and her old man's Nazi past is detailed? You can sign it with your name, "Blueboy, the dull tool".

Get heel clicking tuesday to add his name with a crayon.

re: #232 yochanan

Slower than your self ? Do not wish upon your enemy a death any greater than the death you wish to experience it your self.

It is called Karma.

Accident? Yeah. He had help.

I'm only paranoid because people are out to get me.

what makes haider a fascist?

re: #4 MJ

I thought that was part of "Good & Welfare" at the WWJC meeting.....

re: #150 MandyManners

i had a german friend married to an austrian wife and he said the austrians were great at p.r. -- they have the whole world thinking Hitler was german and Mozart was Austrian.

I think it an ominous event . Sorta like the failed attempt on Hitlers life , things grew worse . Time will tell .

re: #238 LynnfromNZ

i had a german friend married to an austrian wife and he said the austrians were great at p.r. -- they have the whole world thinking Hitler was german and Mozart was Austrian.

Mozart was indeed Austrian, born in Salzburg. What's wrong with that?

aw.

how sad.

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May he rest in the arms and eternal peace of whomever that takes wastrels such as himself in... (IOW, I will not damn or curse him, but I sure ain't gonna bless his passage...)

Uptight, that's exactly what I'm getting at and that's why europe will only ever have left of centre govenrments and the USA is now headed that way too.
Oh, the others - if I was gay, so what?
Don't you remember the High Chapparal?

However much I hate fascists, they're reacting to the EU who are now actively promoting Islam as "the" religion.

The fascists are attracting voters who are fed up with high levels of immigration, preferential treatment given to Muslims, and an increased gagging of anything critical of Islam.

I think that Haider was bumped off by the politically correct, Islamist loving, EU communist stasi.

Can everyone reading this read also read how the real neo-Nazis see the jihadists as their allies!

We mustn't label all right wing groups as Nazis...

Europe's in BIG trouble , with or without Haider , with or without right wing nationalist parties . These thing are merely symptons , and harbingers of dark days ahead .

I have one general rule when it comes to death. If the individual involved is not a murderer, rapist, or child molester, I will mourn.

If it is, I won't celebrate, but I won't mourn either.

Haider may have been a general scumbag, but I'm pretty sure he never literally fit into the above three categories. But I do concur with some of the early statements - if his movement dies with him, that would not be a bad thing.